[12:00] <NickGarvey> sethk: so stupid..
[12:00] <moparfan90> hello everyone
[12:00] <sethk> NickGarvey, boot a rescue cd
[12:00] <aaron_> are there any problems with setting up unrealircd with ubuntu
[12:00] <mwe> NickGarvey: just add init=/bin/sh at the end of the line and change ro to rw then type passwd when you are booted to set the password
[12:00] <NickGarvey> mwe: ah ok, thank you
[12:00] <jadaz87> NickGarvey do you know how to run php from commandline? it should be: php bot.php right??
[12:00] <mwe> NickGarvey: or /bin/bash
[12:00] <moparfan90> whats that command thing in this IRC channel to make the bot tell you about how to install NVIDIA drivers?
[12:00] <mwe> NickGarvey: init=/bin/bash
[12:00] <sethk> mwe, I'd expect a /bin/sh link
[12:01] <moparfan90> o wait nevermind
[12:01] <mianiak> ENE|Toxic, /etc/init.d/networking restart worked , i can now see eth0 in ifconfig eth0, but when i ifconfig eth0 up i get this error, i tried ifconfig eth0 down then up and same error, SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy. then i do an dhclient eth0 and it comes back with send_packet network down.
[12:01] <sethk> mwe, so either should work
[12:01] <morose> nickrud: right, the idea was to avoid babysitting it at first..it's going to be enough work installing and configuring all the services
[12:01] <bolsh> No PPC flash answers?
[12:01] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: You should not have to perform "ifconfigh eth0 up". Turning it down may sometime require you to restart the network adapter again.
[12:02] <knight> hello
[12:02] <morose> oh no...what is all this crap
[12:02] <nickrud> morose, I was really exaggerating the downside, while hinting at the upside. Once you have a working server, you will spend an astonishingly small amount of time babysitting.
[12:03] <morose> i just booted the kernel and installing a ton of crap i don't want...like nano
[12:03] <Lynoure> 01:00, time for me to give up for today.
[12:03] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: I've had no good experience with ifconfig up/down, it just seems to set a flag and not the affect the actual network. All you should have to do is start the network and get an IP using dhclient, and then you're set to go.
[12:03] <morose> nickrud: yeah..that's what i am hoping for...everytime the gentoo box gets updated, my sh!t breaks to my complete and utter dismay
[12:04] <nickrud> morose, the specific example you mention, nano, is a required package. A design decision, a simple usable editor that always works.
[12:04] <morose> nickrud: vive vi :>
[12:04] <mianiak> ENE|Toxic, ok, i restarted it again ran dhclient eth0 and it is still down, what happened is my 10 month old daughter was sitting on my lap  when i was in the terminal and she typed something into it and since then i lost it, i dont even know what she typed in heh :)
[12:04] <morose> vi++
[12:04] <kbrooks> morose: flamebait!
[12:04] <morose> vim++
[12:04] <nickrud> morose, so add it :)
[12:04] <nickrud> !editorwars
[12:04] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud
[12:04] <morose> nickrud: i will
[12:04] <nickrud> !editor wars
[12:04] <ubotu> nickrud: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:04] <morose> kbrooks: pfft :)
[12:05] <nickrud> heh. Gone :)
[12:05] <kbrooks> !editor war
[12:05] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks
[12:05] <kbrooks> !editor
[12:05] <ubotu> [editor]  ed, vim, nano, emacs, gedit, kate, bluefish, gvim, pida, eclipse, nvu, quanta
[12:05] <Jowi> where is mousepad in that list?
[12:06] <HaxoR91> how do i make totem work with any media files?
[12:06] <HaxoR91> i cant run anything on it
[12:06] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: she probably typed something like "aboogabaa" which is a secret command to turn off the network. On a more serious note, sometimes restarting the network won't do it. I've had this problem too, I've tried most of what I could think of, and yet I ended up rebooting the computer to get it to work again. So my advice to you is to reboot the computer when you can't get the network to functino properly again using /etc/init.d/network start.
[12:06] <wpr> hello! another problem with ubuntu dapperdrake 6.. trying to add a norwegian keymap using Keyboard preferences, but I get the error "Error activating XXB configuration", and it refers to errors in libxklavier library, and the X server... any ideas?
[12:06] <morose> wtf!@#!@#!@
[12:06] <rustlerharv> HaxoR91: what version ubuntu are you rinnig
[12:07] <HaxoR91> 5.10
[12:07] <mianiak> ENE|Toxic, ok i will give that a go, i have rebooted it before but i will try again,
[12:07] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: type "history" in the console and you will see the last 500 commands typed into it.
[12:07] <nickrud> wpr, you will probably get more traction in #ubuntu+1
[12:07] <morose> nickrud: i'm hating this already....in the stupid gui install, there was never a place to set up a root passwd....!@#!@#!
[12:07] <ciplogic> Hello... how do I change the drive name to Ubuntu?  I have as name:
[12:07] <ciplogic> +
[12:07] <ciplogic>  // End;
[12:07] <nickrud> morose, heh. welcome to sudo
[12:07] <gnomefreak> morose: ubuntu doesnt have a root password
[12:07] <HaxoR91> rustlerharv: how do i fix it?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> it does just disabled
[12:07] <rustlerharv> HaxoR91: there are packges in synaptic you can install idk what they are for breezy
[12:08] <nickrud> morose, sudo gives you so much more control over adminstrative issues than a root account
[12:08] <linxeh> I'm having a problem with my SD/MMC card reader - [4490680.628000]  generic_make_request: Trying to access nonexistent block-device mmcblk0 (0). I have tried mknod to create the device (even though there was a device there already) and it still isn't working. Any ideas?
[12:08] <Jowi> HaxoR91: gstreamer0.8-plugins is what you want. that will install them all
[12:08] <morose> nickrud gnomefreak: euhhhh and if you type su, you are prompted for a password, what then?
[12:08] <ciplogic> I use ubuntu dapper :)
[12:08] <mianiak> ENE|Toxic, fc ?
[12:08] <nickrud> morose, sudo -i
[12:08] <Jowi> HaxoR91: you also have gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:08] <nickrud> morose, that gives you the exact same situation as su -
[12:08] <morose> nickrud: oyeeeee  em em *runs around in circles*
[12:08] <navidjoon> I downloaded firefox 1.5.0.2 and I want to have it running by typing firefox in the Alt+F2 dialog box. What should I do?
[12:09] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: that just opens vim, a text-editor
[12:09] <nickrud> morose, lol, you amuse me :)
[12:09] <gnomefreak> navidjoon: if you follow the guide it should just work
[12:09] <ciplogic> How/where I change the drive names to GNOME?
[12:09] <seamus-laptop> ciplogic: clarification?
[12:09] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: By the way, are you using wlan ?
[12:09] <navidjoon> It works
[12:09] <gnomefreak> should meaning it did here
[12:09] <mianiak> ENE|Toxic, no just lan
[12:09] <ciplogic> seamus-laptop: one drive gets a strange name: a multiline drive name
[12:09] <gnomefreak> navidjoon: type firefox in alt+f2
[12:09] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: k, reboot and let me know if it works
[12:09] <ciplogic> The all others are normal (drive size)
[12:09] <mianiak> ENE|Toxic, k
[12:10] <navidjoon> The problem is if I type firefox in the Alt+F2 dialog in brings on the older version since it's in the path
[12:10] <seamus-laptop> ciplogic: where are you seeing this?
[12:10] <navidjoon> Now I want to have the new firefox running
[12:10] <ciplogic> In places... anywhere :)
[12:10] <gnomefreak> navidjoon: if you ran the divert command it should use firefox 1.5.0.2 for default
[12:10] <ciplogic> The name is: + \n //End;
[12:10] <ciplogic> For that drive
[12:10] <dabaR> Remove old one from the path, link to new one in the path.
[12:11] <navidjoon> divert command? What is it?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> the instructions are there for that i think there is a divert command and an ls command
[12:11] <gnomefreak> navidjoon: its on the wiki
[12:11] <morose> nickrud: mkay so any secret switches needed for apt-get?  i'm about to install apache2
[12:11] <ciplogic> My question is how to define at least even after a format...
[12:11] <seamus-laptop> ciplogic: what drive?
[12:11] <dabaR> morose: --super-secret-special
[12:11] <ciplogic> Was an old C letter from WIndows
[12:11] <morose> dabaR: seeee..that's what i thought :/
[12:12] <ciplogic> I removed Windows and I format as ReiserFS
[12:12] <ciplogic> Using System->Admin->Disks
[12:12] <nickrud> morose, secret switches? (and I am going to strongly recommend aptitude)
[12:13] <ciplogic> seamus-laptop: anyway: if it needs another format to another FS please to say... I backup data... and I will do everything to not be multiline drive
[12:13] <ciplogic> As name
[12:13] <navidjoon> Found it gnomefreak, thanks for help
[12:13] <ciplogic> Is really annoying that bug :(
[12:14] <NickGarvey> I win!
[12:14] <seamus-laptop> ciplogic: have you tried cfdisk?
[12:14] <ciplogic> nope
[12:14] <rustlerharv> does anyone know how i can fix having to run gaim as root
[12:14] <ciplogic> but cfdisk is a fdisk
[12:14] <ciplogic> I don't know if knows to format a drive
[12:14] <redguy> ciplogic: it doesn't
[12:14] <nickrud> NickGarvey, heh. You been a loser too ? :)
[12:15] <gnomefreak> navidjoon: your welcome
[12:15] <wobble> What package do I need to be able to see shares on a networked Windows computer?
[12:15] <NickGarvey> nickrud: heh I locked my root password
[12:15] <seamus-laptop> ciplogic: you may need to repartition / reformat that drive
[12:15] <wobble> Samba?
[12:15] <NickGarvey> wobble: yessir, /msg ubotu samba for me
[12:15] <navidjoon> wobble: samba
[12:15] <NickGarvey> wobble: s/me/more/
[12:15] <nickrud> NickGarvey, why did you ever unlock it in the first place ;)
[12:15] <wobble> Okay, thankyou guys
[12:16] <seamus-laptop> ciplogic: resier4 is still fairly new, untested, and ubggy
[12:16] <ciplogic> seamus-laptop: in which FS?
[12:16] <NickGarvey> nickrud: suse 10.0
[12:16] <Ali> hi all
[12:16] <ciplogic> I used reiser
[12:16] <ciplogic> Not reiser4
[12:16] <Imperio59> stupid quick and dirty question: if i did "sudo rm -r /" would that delete every file on my system?
[12:16] <seamus-laptop> ah
[12:16] <ciplogic> Imperio59: yes
[12:16] <Imperio59> hmm'k :)
[12:16] <rustlerharv> Imperio59: i thing its -rf but ya you can
[12:16] <ciplogic> Don't do on your system
[12:16] <Imperio59> couldn't be assed to check, thanks :p
[12:16] <redguy> Imperio59: most of them, yes
[12:16] <gnomefreak> Imperio59: i doubt it because you didnt give it enough parameters but feel free to try :(
[12:16] <Imperio59> yea that's why i ask
[12:16] <mlehrer> cat /dev/random > /dev/hda
[12:16] <Ali> how can i make a pppd connection on startup ?
[12:16] <ciplogic> you may chheck after a chroot command
[12:17] <Imperio59> I don't really feel like trying
[12:17] <Imperio59> :)
[12:17] <mlehrer> just kidding there
[12:17] <redguy> mlehrer: not funny
[12:17] <ciplogic> seamus-laptop: I shoud reformat?
[12:17] <Ali> anyone ?
[12:17] <ciplogic> Ali:
[12:17] <funky> hi
[12:18] <ciplogic> Preferences-
[12:18] <ciplogic> .Sessionm
[12:18] <nickrud> Imperio59, it's a learning experience, if you have the partition to examine afterwards :)
[12:18] <funky> when is finally planned the next release ?
[12:18] <Ali> ciplogic: startup, not login
[12:18] <nickrud> !dapper
[12:18] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:18] <gnomefreak> Imperio59: yes it will remove all directories and their contents
[12:18] <funky> nickrud: thx
[12:18] <gnomefreak> man rm will give you the info
[12:19] <morose> nickrud: heh...i got it fixed up now so root can log in anyways..none of this sudo -i stuff
[12:19] <Ali> anyone ?
[12:19] <mianiak> ENE|Toxic, its booting now , it gets to configuring network interfaces and says ok, then goes to waiting for network to come up, pauses for a while says ok, then when it gets to syncing time it fails the time sync. maybe it is a hardware problem and just a coincidence when my daughter went ape in terminal, when i ifconfig eth0 i get HWaddr FF:FF:FF:FF:FF
[12:19] <rustlerharv> is there a way i can change it so i dont have to be root to run progs
[12:19] <ciplogic> Any idea how may I setup the drive names in Ubuntu/GNOME?
[12:20] <linxeh> apt-get nightmare - how can I fix this error which stops me installing/removing anything?   dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx' found `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[12:20] <nickrud> morose, there are a lot of useable security models. But, please use the sudo one on this channel
[12:20] <morose> are you ppl using openssh?
[12:20] <morose> nickrud: emmm oki
[12:20] <Ali> morose: yes
[12:20] <fiendskull9> hey guys
[12:20] <endersshadow> ciplogic: are you talking like C:\ in windows?
[12:20] <nickrud> morose, it'll make it easier for the next guy :)
[12:20] <fiendskull9> what basic language would you reccomend for programming a simple multi-user chat? server-client
[12:20] <svu_> why oh why mt-daapd is not in ubuntu repository?
[12:21] <morose> nickrud: understood....only two ppl have access to the actual physical box, here, so its no huge deal to login as root
[12:21] <Ali> fiendskull9: python or ruby
[12:21] <NickGarvey> yeah python is very easy
[12:21] <morose> nickrud: i mean, in my case, but i understand the desire for consistency on the channel
[12:21] <ciplogic> endersshadow: I have an ex-drive of C:\ of windows
[12:21] <nickrud> morose, yeah :)
[12:21] <ciplogic> endersshadow: and I format it
[12:21] <fiendskull9> Ali, ok, i was thinking python :), im waiting for a guy to send me a TCPcommunications class for REALbasic.
[12:22] <alekz> hi, im going to buy a new pc thinking on a AMD 64 3200 FX, how good is ubuntu 64 ??
[12:22] <endersshadow> ciplogic: all right, linux deals with drives and the file structure a lot differently than windows does
[12:22] <Ali> fiendskull9: REALBasic is closed source
[12:22] <biovore> I am running kubuntu 64bit here.. works fine
[12:22] <ciplogic> endersshadow: as reiserfs and at the end I sow a strange name as was plus a new line //End;
[12:22] <Ali> fiendskull9: and you won't get enough support from community
[12:22] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: You daughter should by no reason be able to have done anything to your system. That it fails time sync is because it cannot find ntp.ubuntu.com. Have you tried "ping 127.0.0.1". You can also check "lshw -C network" to find informatino about your hardware specifics. Make sure it's eth0 and the fields are accurate.
[12:22] <fiendskull9> ok
[12:22] <Ali> fiendskull9: python and asynchat module
[12:22] <rustlerharv> how differnt is kbuntu
[12:22] <Ali> fiendskull9: or ruby
[12:22] <ciplogic> biovore: my question is how do I setup that to change a name to drives
[12:23] <nickrud> rustlerharv, the desktop will be totally different, but the guts are all the same
[12:23] <ciplogic> endersshadow: At least the coresponding to /media/C
[12:23] <biovore> ciplogic: setup what for what?
[12:23] <rustlerharv> how differnt is kde
[12:23] <endersshadow> ciplogic: what does your /etc/fstab look like?
[12:23] <NickGarvey> rustlerharv: try it and find out ;)
[12:23] <ciplogic> is normal
[12:23] <rustlerharv> ive only run ubuntu
[12:23] <jadaz87> does anyone know how i set an username and password  for mysql?
[12:23] <nickrud> kde is evil, gnome is heaven :)
[12:23] <gnomefreak> rustlerharv: its different
[12:23] <mianiak> ENE|Toxic, k
[12:23] <NickGarvey> xfce > all
[12:23] <rustlerharv> i like gnome
[12:23] <linxeh> rustlerharv, : I have ubuntu with the kubuntu desktop added, so I can switch between both
[12:23] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: That you said, about ifconfig tells you your MAC address is ff:ff:ff... That's a good sign to that your system doesn't recognise your networking card properly. You should have a uniqe mac-address.
[12:24] <ciplogic> like that: /dev/hda1       /media/C        reiserfs defaults      0        0
[12:24] <gnomefreak> rustlerharv: it makes me think of windows desktop :(
[12:24] <rustlerharv> eww
[12:24] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:24] <endersshadow> ciplogic: all right, so it's mounting to /media/C just fine or do you just want to change the name in media?
[12:24] <NickGarvey> how do you make an ubotu factoid refer to another one?
[12:24] <nickrud> rustlerharv, gnomefreak is exaggerating, it's not that bad
[12:24] <gnomefreak> rustlerharv: it has a K in lower left hand corner (your start menu)
[12:24] <biovore> jadaz87: use mysql admin to set the password for root.. then use the grant command to setup users
[12:25] <ciplogic> endersshadow: name is ok... mounting too\
[12:25] <jadaz87> biovore what is the terminal command for mysqladmin?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> nickrud: no? than you have your "launchers" to the right of the K
[12:25] <Ali> anyone willing to help me with pppd ?
[12:25] <ciplogic> endersshadow: but in GNOME the name is really strange
[12:25] <gnomefreak> and the apps dock at bottom
[12:25] <biovore> jadaz87: see mysql.com support documents
[12:25] <ciplogic> endersshadow: and takes 2 lines as name :-S
[12:25] <rustlerharv> red hat is kde isnt it
[12:25] <N2DIY> Hi, how to I get email with evolution, the send/receive button is ghosted out.
[12:25] <nickrud> gnomefreak, er, I'm thinking kde 2.2 or so, it can't have gotten truly evil, only relatively :)
[12:25] <linxeh> is there a way to manipulate the package installation list by hand?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> that reminds me way too much of windows lol
[12:25] <jshriver> Greetings
[12:25] <endersshadow> ciplogic: okay, give me just a second
[12:25] <ciplogic> Sure
[12:25] <redguy> jadaz87: also, you might want to check /usr/share/doc/mysql
[12:26] <jshriver> Is it possible to convert from Debian stable to ubuntu?
[12:26] <A[D] minS> Nighty all
[12:26] <rustlerharv> i tinhk my schools computers use kde
[12:26] <ciplogic> jshiver: install first the kernel, reboot
[12:26] <nickrud> jshriver, no, you should do a fresh install for debian
[12:26] <jshriver> w/o FFR
[12:26] <ciplogic> jshiver: then after reboot to me works
[12:26] <gnomefreak> jshriver: its not recommended things have a 98% chance of breaking badly
[12:26] <biovore> jadaz87: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/grant.html
[12:26] <linxeh> ie I want to remove a package that is installed from the lists, but keep the package installed (well, I want to remove the package, but I cant, so I figure if I can overwrite it I might be able to uninstall)
[12:26] <linxeh> or should I do a fresh install?
[12:26] <jshriver> I've been a debian user for years.. and starting to get tired of the lack off applications... some of the ppl in my lug are big ubuntu fans.. so thought I'd give it a shot
[12:26] <nickrud> linxeh, eh, more info?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> linxeh: what package and what errors when you try to remove it
[12:27] <nickrud> jshriver, unstable?
[12:27] <linxeh> apt-get nightmare - how can I fix this error which stops me installing/removing anything?   dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx' found `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[12:27] <biovore> linxeh: is that package a dependancy for another package
[12:27] <jshriver> nickrud, na stable.. and another machine is running testing
[12:27] <linxeh> Removing xorg-driver-fglrx ...
[12:27] <linxeh> on that package
[12:27] <mianiak> ENE|Toxic, ping 127.0.0.1 works, lshw -C network comes back with, network dissabled, though it recognises the n/w card
[12:27] <biovore> linxeh: I have noticed alot of people having problems with this fglrx stuff
[12:27] <jshriver> but some of the apps Iwant are in testing, but I dont want to upgrade to testing just to get a couple applications
[12:27] <borgista> Anybody else having Dapper MPlayer-plugin woes too?
[12:28] <jshriver> ubuntu is debian like right? I can still use apt-get/apt-cache dpkg?
[12:28] <Bilange> for the record, I also had this kind of problem-- dont remember what I did to get rid of the nag
[12:28] <redguy> Ali: the initscript check if file /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot exists on boot
[12:28] <nickrud> jshriver, the tools are identical
[12:28] <gnomefreak> jshriver: yes
[12:28] <NickGarvey> borgista: most likely in #ubuntu+1 would be the best place to check
[12:28] <linxeh> biovore: yeah,  its because there arent any real suitable packages yet - I want to drop it and stick with standard I guess
[12:28] <biovore> borgista: I built mplayer from source, newest cvs works alot better then that package in multiverse
[12:28] <borgista> Thanks
[12:28] <linxeh> although Xgl is so nice to use :o
[12:28] <gnomefreak> jshriver: the packages are _not_ the same hence the reason things will break on cross platform upgrade
[12:28] <Beakster> hi, im thinking about installing Ubuntu in a Athlon 800 512MB to use for mythtv.  DOes that soud like a good idea?  or better to stick with debian?
[12:28] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: network disabled ? That's odd. I'm not really sure how to fix that. I'm guessing you can't ping a local server or your router?
[12:28] <NickGarvey> xgl is beautiful..
[12:29] <nickrud> xgl is october away (I hope)
[12:29] <NickGarvey> mian1ak: ifconfig eth0 shows stuff though?
[12:29] <redguy> Ali: if it's set as executable it will be run, otherwise pppd call provided is issued
[12:29] <biovore> nickrud: I had it working in dapper just a little while ago
[12:29] <rustlerharv> Beakster: i cant get mythtv to work right but im and idiot so
[12:29] <fiveiron> whats a good php editor?
[12:29] <NickGarvey> fiveiron: vi
[12:29] <redguy> Ali: s/issued/executed/
[12:29] <NickGarvey> ;)
[12:29] <dabaR> eclipse, vi, gedit, bluefish
[12:29] <mianiak> ENE|Toxic, nope cant ping local NickGarvey yes
[12:29] <fiveiron> NickGarvey: heheh
[12:29] <redguy> fiveiron: vim, emacs, kate
[12:30] <fiveiron> sorry let me clarify
[12:30] <NickGarvey> mianiak: do you have an IP?
[12:30] <ciplogic> endersshadow any result?:
[12:30] <NickGarvey> mianiak: like 192.168.*.*?
[12:30] <Bilange> fiveiron: bluefish was a favourite of mine, although eclipse might be a good idea if you have a fast machine too
[12:30] <endersshadow> ciplogic: yeah, i'm looking for the program to rename reiserfs partitions
[12:30] <fiveiron> i'm looking for a php code beautifier which IDEALLY also has the capability from within the application to open and save files on a remote ftp server
[12:30] <mianiak> NickGarvey, nope, ifconfig eth0 would show ip yes?
[12:31] <N2DIY> how do I get Evolution to fetch my mail, the send/receive button is ghosted out.
[12:31] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: But it won't show mac-address (but ff:ff..) ?
[12:31] <ciplogic> endershadow: I think that is only a GNOME issue, and to remane it in GConf or somelike that
[12:31] <NickGarvey> mianiak: I don't understand what you just said? could you pastebin ifconfig eth0?
[12:31] <ciplogic> endersshadow: for my knowledge reiser FS haven't names
[12:31] <nickrud> biovore, so have I, but I hope for better tools, like better window management
[12:31] <mianiak> ENE|Toxic, yeh ff:ff....
[12:31] <biovore> nickrud: don't we all :-P
[12:31] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: Line NickGarvey said, pastebin :)
[12:32] <NickGarvey> s/Line/Like/ ;)
[12:32] <nickrud> !!! unleash the devs !!!
[12:32] <ubotu> nickrud: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:32] <haasteem> hi, is there anybosy else using blackbox as window manager?
[12:32] <angel> QUE ONDA
[12:33] <nickrud> !es
[12:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:33] <fiendskull9> do you guys know of any good Python GUI IDE's?
[12:33] <mianiak> NickGarvey, ENE|Toxic  cant paste it i will hve to put it in a ile and transfer with my usb stick..
[12:33] <Bilange> haasteem: i did in the past, but in windows though :/
[12:33] <NickGarvey> mianiak: haha good point
[12:33] <iudicium> Boa Constructor fiendskull9
[12:33] <NickGarvey> mianiak: um yeah if that wouldn't be to much of a hastle..
[12:33] <gnomefreak> fiendskull9: eric
[12:33] <NickGarvey> mianiak: do you have a cross over cable?
[12:33] <Sanne> fiendskull9, there are lots, I like eric (qt-based), also take a look at drpython.
[12:33] <fiendskull9> gnomefreak, is it GUI? and an ide
[12:34] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:34] <mianiak> ENE|Toxic, NickGarvey i gotta feed my daughter srry but i have to stop now, i will get back to it asap, thnx for help so far
[12:34] <ENE|Toxic> mian1ak: np
[12:34] <fiendskull9> ill try eruc
[12:34] <NickGarvey> ENE|Toxic: well its just he doesn't have internet heh how can he pastebin it
[12:34] <fiendskull9> *eric
[12:34] <gnomefreak> fiendskull9: yes
[12:34] <NickGarvey> mianiak: alright, good luck
[12:34] <gnomefreak> also anjuta is good
[12:34] <ENE|Toxic> NickGarvey: ooo now I get it haha :)
[12:34] <fiendskull9> it does python?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> but iirc eric will only do python
[12:34] <gnomefreak> fiendskull9: yes anjuta does python
[12:35] <ciplogic> endersshadow: the name is asigned in Volume name
[12:35] <fiendskull9> gnomefreak, oh, i thought it only did c and cpp, i have it.
[12:35] <ciplogic> When I choose property on the drive
[12:35] <endersshadow> ciplogic: there's a bug filed about it in launchpad
[12:35] <endersshadow> ciplogic: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/30867
[12:35] <haasteem> bilange: ahhh, ok... i was having some font trouble
[12:36] <ciplogic> endersshadow: Nope... it is good... is not like bug
[12:36] <haasteem> so i guess it is in fact more gtk related
[12:36] <nickrud> ciplogic, rierserfstune --label  ?
[12:36] <ciplogic> nickrud
[12:36] <ciplogic> Nickrud: I try right now
[12:36] <nickrud> ciplogic, man rieserfstune for the details
[12:37] <haasteem> does gedit use gtk?
[12:37] <nickrud> haasteem, of course it does, it's gnome
[12:37] <biovore> haasteem: I think it dose
[12:37] <redguy> haasteem: the g suggests so
[12:37] <nicolas__> ok, i just upgraded from sarge to breezy, everything worked almost without problems, except for the last step, which is apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:37] <haasteem> right
[12:37] <haasteem> stupid question
[12:37] <nicolas__> broken deps with gaim, synaptic, python-apt etc
[12:37] <rustlerharv> what is gtk
[12:37] <nickrud> haasteem, no, not a stupid question, just a brain fart :)
[12:37] <redguy> nicolas__: erm
[12:37] <haasteem> but how come then that it does not listen to my setting in the gtkrc-2.0 file?
[12:38] <nicolas__> redguy: what?
[12:38] <redguy> nicolas__: updated from sarge to breezy? since when sarge was an ubuntu release?
[12:38] <ciplogic> I cannot umount partition :P
[12:38] <nicolas__> redguy: it is not
[12:39] <gnomefreak> redguy: sarge was never a ubuntu release
[12:39] <redguy> nicolas__: you should say: I broke my sarge install when I was tryng to change my distro to ubuntu
[12:39] <nicolas__> redguy: well, someone else did it on ubuntuforums, and so i did
[12:39] <redguy> !debian
[12:39] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[12:39] <nicolas__> everything is working well
[12:39] <gnomefreak> redguy: sarge nad ubuntu dont use same packages there is no doubt it will break
[12:40] <nicolas__> redguy: i dont think you have anything to teach me
[12:40] <nickrud> nicolas__, were you the guy that said he was going from sarge to breezy when I came in today?
[12:40] <nicolas__> nickrud: yes
[12:40] <juztin> if i use an alternative wm, for instance blackbox, will the icon that notifies you of available updates still pop up when updates are available?
[12:40] <NickGarvey> nicolas__: good luck
[12:40] <endersshadow> ciplogic: the more i look into it, there doesn't seem to be an easy way to change volume labels, but there are people working on it...i'm sorry
[12:40] <nicolas__> NickGarvey: its done
[12:40] <redguy> nicolas__: hmm, I thing dpkg's ubuntu factoid is more clear on that
[12:40] <nickrud> nicolas__, I commented cuz I know it's a difficult road, you will have serious issues.
[12:40] <toby_> justin: no
[12:40] <haasteem> nickrud: it looks like the rest e..g x-chat, gimp, etc. run ok, but not gedit, the update manager.. it is rather strange
[12:40] <Bilange> abotu xfce4: does apt-get install xfce as the default window manager when installing packages, or some tuneup is required?
[12:41] <biovore> nicolas__: I done a sarge to brezzy dist-upgrade as well
[12:41] <nicolas__> nickrud: not too much
[12:41] <juztin> bummer :/
[12:41] <nicolas__> just a couple dpkg segfaults ;P
[12:41] <toby_> you can do an apt-get something or other as a cron job
[12:41] <|austin|> quick question: I have a 5 gig partition which just became free.  is this big enough for a ubuntu install with gnome?
[12:41] <redguy> nicolas__: I doubt that you will learn anything usefull other than debian != ubuntu
[12:41] <kbrooks> |austin|: ubuntu requires min 1 gb
[12:42] <|austin|> awesome
[12:42] <toby_> fluxbox is nice
[12:42] <|austin|> does that include gnome?
[12:42] <_jason> |austin|: it's big enough with and without gnome (~1.8 is min for gnome included)
[12:42] <Bilange> austin: yes, 2 and more gb is required to install it, after the installation 1.5 gig is really used
[12:42] <nicolas__> redguy: almost
[12:42] <nickrud> haasteem, I've fought that, and gave up. I stick with the tools for themes, and maybe alter a theme slightly here and there
[12:42] <rustlerharv> i tinhk i used 4 for everything
[12:42] <nicolas__> biovore: had any problem with installing ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:42] <redguy> nicolas__: but maybe you could educate me: what's the point in such an "upgrade" ?
[12:42] <biovore> nicolas__: I didn't have any problems with it here
[12:42] <haasteem> nickrud: ok. i do not really want to use gnome-font properties, i am using blackbox (without a desktop manager)... and if i did run gnome-font-properties other unecessary gnome stuff is loaded...
[12:43] <ciplogic> reisertune works... but no effect :)
[12:43] <nickrud> nicolas__, 'just a dpkg segfault *cough*(
[12:43] <nicolas__> redguy: prevent data loss while preventing data backup when changing distro
[12:43] <rustlerharv> |austin|:  right now im using 3.4 gigs
[12:43] <nicolas__> and also
[12:43] <endersshadow> sorry :(
[12:43] <nickrud> haasteem, I've never used blackbox, so I don't have much to offer
[12:43] <nicolas__> i saved almost 30 minute
[12:44] <slavik> I got dapper working :D
[12:44] <slavik> no wifi yet
[12:44] <ciplogic> The name change from C in + even I choose as label: test
[12:45] <netgeek60> Is the Dapper beta worth taking for a spin? <relatively stable?>
[12:45] <redguy> nicolas__: there are at least several way better ways of acheiveing the goal you described
[12:45] <rustlerharv>  netgeek60 yes
[12:45] <rustlerharv> i havent had any problems
[12:45] <nickrud> netgeek60, if you're comfortable with the tools provided to fix problems, yes. Otherwise I'd suggest waiting.
[12:46] <nicolas__> redguy: did i told you it went almost perfectly ?
[12:46] <Sanne> haasteem, there's lightweight the gtk-theme-switch utility to control some of the gnome/gtk appearance when you haven't installed a full Gnome.
[12:46] <nicolas__> in less than 20 min
[12:46] <gn0m3> hi
[12:46] <gn0m3> can anyone help me with the gaim messenger
[12:46] <nicolas__> !upgrade
[12:46] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[12:46] <netgeek60> Cool... i don't mind fixing problems as long as there are only a few now & then.
[12:47] <rustlerharv> gn0m3: whats up
[12:47] <gn0m3> how do u add pictures to your profile?
[12:47] <gn0m3> it gives u the option
[12:47] <rustlerharv> i tinhk thats your buddy icon
[12:47] <redguy> nicolas__: "broken deps with gaim, synaptic, python-apt etc" <-- you call this "almost perfect"
[12:47] <gn0m3> but is there a specific format or a specific size?
[12:47] <ciplogic> gn0m3: you have in account property
[12:47] <gn0m3> i know but it did not allow me
[12:47] <matth-w> nickrud, hey did you ever find anything about the cd-r?
[12:47] <gn0m3> i added the pic but nothing came up
[12:47] <redguy> nicolas__: I call it "broken system"
[12:48] <redguy> nicolas__: a amtter of perspective
[12:48] <kbrooks> OK
[12:48] <kbrooks> i have this idea
[12:48] <_Dez> how do i mount a usb drive in terminal
[12:48] <rustlerharv> what messenger are you using
[12:48] <kbrooks> i think
[12:48] <haasteem> Sanne: i know that one, it has no effect unfortunately...
[12:48] <kbrooks> ...
[12:48] <rustlerharv> aim msn etc
[12:48] <nickrud> matth-w, your issue scrolled out of my xchat window, what was it again?
[12:49] <gn0m3> im using aim
[12:49] <gn0m3> but its gaim here
[12:49] <haasteem> Sanne: by the way, i do have a full gnome installed
[12:49] <codecaine> anybody using gaim2?
[12:49] <Milk_> ello
[12:49] <matth-w> Oh, I need mp3 plugin's to burn with serpentine or gnomebaker
[12:49] <moparfan90> hi everyone/......... how do i give write access for everyone for    /usr/games
[12:49] <moparfan90> ?
[12:49] <rustlerharv> codecaine: i am
[12:49] <nickrud> matth-w, ah
[12:49] <codecaine> is it real nice does it have webcam?
[12:49] <rustlerharv> my only problem is i have to run it as root
[12:49] <moparfan90> .. in a terminal
[12:49] <Sanne> haasteem, it hasn't? It should... oh, if you have gnome, then you could run the gnome theme manager from the command line.
[12:49] <Milk_> I'm having issues getting any software to recognise my joystick.. any sugestions on where I can edit a config file or otherwise get this setup correctly?
[12:49] <__nev__> moparfan90: chmod 1777 /usr/games
[12:49] <rustlerharv> no web cam
[12:49] <biovore> gaim2 is in beta 3
[12:49] <moparfan90> ok
[12:49] <moparfan90> thanks
[12:49] <sb_> salve
[12:49] <redguy> moparfan90: what for?
[12:49] <diomedes> so whats with ubuntu install not asking for a root password? and assuming i want to use dhcp?
[12:50] <codecaine> oh nothing really new
[12:50] <nickrud> matth-w, I answered up on that one thinking it was ripping, not writing. I've never written a music cd in my life :)
[12:50] <sb_> oh merda
[12:50] <nxvl> hi
[12:50] <sb_> hi
[12:50] <redguy> !tell diomedes about root
[12:50] <sb_> i have Dapper Drake
[12:50] <Milk_> diomedes, thats the default, its meant to make install easy and safe
[12:50] <haasteem> Sanne: yeah.... gnome theme manager does not invoke other gnome stuff?
[12:50] <sb_> what i use to see a divx?
[12:50] <sethk> diomedes, it asks for a root password in expert mode
[12:50] <matth-w> nickrud, never burned a audio cd?
[12:50] <_Dez> how do i mount a usb drive in terminal
[12:50] <biovore> sb_: xine or mplayer will do it
[12:50] <sethk> diomedes, and the dhcp assumption isn't unreasonable for a default
[12:50] <redguy> diomedes: if you want to have more controll on what is actually done during the install do an expert install
[12:50] <sb_> but i haven't a codec
[12:51] <rustlerharv> sb_: totem will do it
[12:51] <ciplogic> nickrud: I have write with a soft crayon and say the content of it ;)
[12:51] <biovore> sb_: google for divx4linux
[12:51] <sb_> ok
[12:51] <biovore> or divx5linux
[12:51] <redguy> !tell sb_ about restricted
[12:51] <diomedes> grr, linux is becoming windows
[12:51] <rustlerharv> you nmeed to install the good bad and ugly pcks
[12:51] <nickrud> matth-w, only once, I just put a bunch of mp3's on a data cd, which my dvd player recognized. That was for fun, and never repeaed
[12:51] <ciplogic> nickrud: do you know how to change the volume in GNOME?
[12:51] <Milk_> diomedes, why do you say that?
[12:51] <matth-w> okay
[12:51] <diomedes> os aren't meant to think for you
[12:51] <Sanne> haasteem, well, it will load the libraries it needs to run, as would for example gimp or firefox or openoffice, if you run them.
[12:51] <nxvl> i want to install ubuntu but i haven't a CD-drive or a Floppy
[12:51] <nickrud> ciplogic, no, I'd look at that bug report someone pointed you at
[12:51] <s|k> !dapper
[12:51] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:52] <Milk_> diomedes, so defaulting to static IP and defaulting asking for a default root is not thinking for you?
[12:52] <redguy> diomedes: sorry, I must have missed the expert mode in the Windows setup
[12:52] <nxvl> is there any way to install it throu the net?
[12:52] <ciplogic> nickrud: the bug say that: should display the volume info but displays the names of the drive
[12:52] <sethk> diomedes, not really.  you want expert mode behavior, install in expert mode
[12:52] <ciplogic> To me display correctly the volume info
[12:52] <steel> what were the commands to see who's in the FTP server? for proftpd?
[12:52] <redguy> diomedes: if you like to think for the os try slackware
[12:52] <__nev__> steel: ftpwho
[12:53] <steel> thanks
[12:53] <ciplogic> And that bug doesn't apply to me... the bad part is that the drive name is really wrong
[12:53] <ciplogic> My question is how to change it
[12:53] <codecaine> anybody have file sharing problems with windows on ubuntu using samba?
[12:53] <ciplogic> I have nothing with name, only my question is how to change ;)
[12:53] <diomedes> milk did i say default to anything? no i said ask, ie static or dhcp
[12:53] <redguy> diomedes: aor lfs even
[12:53] <Milk_> codecaine, its all about setup, what problem are you having?
[12:53] <rustlerharv> doesnt nautilis do file sharing
[12:53] <nickrud> ciplogic, if using reiserfstune --label doesn't show the correct name in gnome but will on the command line, that's a bug to be filed
[12:53] <redguy> codecaine: no, what is your problem?
[12:53] <haasteem> Sanne: ok, i will give it a try, thanks
[12:54] <matth-w> Well is there someone that might help me, I'm needing plugin's for my serpentine to burn a audio-cd from mp3's
[12:54] <Sanne> haasteem, you're welcome
[12:54] <nickrud> ciplogic, I haven't used rieserfs under ubuntu so I'm not up on the latest
[12:54] <diomedes> redguy this install is for my wife, i use solaris.. its just sad that the defaults for linux are now dumbed down
[12:54] <ciplogic> nickrud: changing to xfs may fix that things?
[12:54] <mianiak> NickGarvey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12906
[12:54] <sethk> diomedes, that's not true.  the defaults for ubuntu are dumbed down
[12:54] <codecaine> I click on share folder under system then choose a external hd I want to share give it an name as a windows file server but when I try to open it up in windows theres no folder showing
[12:54] <nickrud> ciplogic, what's wrong with ext3?
[12:54] <sethk> diomedes, use slackware
[12:54] <diomedes> are native debian and slackware the only old school distros
[12:55] <sethk> diomedes, no, but of the majors possibly
[12:55] <jmg> diomedes no there are others that predate and have died out
[12:55] <sethk> diomedes, there are a slew of distros now
[12:55] <jmg> yggrdasil
[12:55] <ciplogic> nickrud: I heard that may remain corrupt the transaction log on a power break
[12:55] <NickGarvey> mianiak: whoa is that messed up
[12:55] <ciplogic> nickrud: reiserfs haven't that problem
[12:55] <mianiak> heh
[12:55] <codecaine> ?
[12:55] <nickrud> ciplogic, heh. I have totally useless power here, and never had that issue.
[12:55] <sethk> ciplogic, reiserfs has many many other problems, though
[12:55] <NickGarvey> mianiak: show that to someone smarter than me I have no idea at all..
[12:55] <spoons> I'm having trouble installing Blender 3D 2.41, I could only get blender 2.37 from the repositories, so I found a copy that was supposed to be packed for Ubuntu. when I try to install it with this command "dpkg -i blender_2.41-1ubuntu4_i386.deb" I get dependancy errors.
[12:55] <spoons>  blender: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2) but 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed           Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[12:55] <diomedes> a slew isn't really a good thing, they all just try to be dumber then the other so the pc mag reader uses their version
[12:55] <sethk> ciplogic, ext3 is really quite stable, and doesn't claim to be totally bullet proof
[12:56] <redguy> diomedes: Note that ubuntu is mostly a desktop distro and dhcp is what most desktop users want. The install should be simple to attract more users from the Windows world, don't you agree?
[12:56] <NickGarvey> spoons: then get the dependancies :)
[12:56] <mianiak> NickGarvey, ok , i post it int he forum, thanx for your help
[12:56] <diomedes> what happened to unix being selective about its friends
[12:56] <Milk_> diomedes, whats the difference, use expert or fix it afterwards
[12:56] <nickrud> ciplogic, I rebooted on power failure in probably 10 times in a month before buying a ups, and never lost data
[12:56] <spoons> NickGarvey how do I do that?
[12:56] <NickGarvey> mianiak: :)
[12:56] <sethk> diomedes, you have the behavior you want.  why bitch because it isn't the default?
[12:56] <Milk_> codecaine, you need to setup samaba users for the user
[12:56] <NickGarvey> spoons: apt-get what it says, libgcc1 or smotheing
[12:56] <kingspawn> diomedes: chill out, install Arch Linux from archlinux.org
[12:56] <spoons> NickGarvey that just gives me the same errors.
[12:56] <codecaine> for windows user name
[12:57] <NickGarvey> spoons: exact same? like it depends on itself?
[12:57] <Milk_> codecaine, yes
[12:57] <spoons> Nick, it gives me the blender error
[12:57] <Sanne> spoons, I always use the blender from blender.org and install it manually in /usr/local/<whereveryouwant>.
[12:58] <spoons> Sanne do you not need these dependancies that way?
[12:58] <zanth> good day
[12:58] <Milk_> diomedes, if your looking for a completely configurable, highly selctive distro, try standard debian or slackware, but don't fault ubuntu for being EXACTLY what it advertises
[12:58] <ciplogic> nickrud: I backup the partition and I will format as EXT3 :)
[12:58] <redguy> diomedes: so you say that linux and/or unix should be only for "the chosen ones", right? Or do you expect that every computer user knows about IP configuration?
[12:58] <noaxispoint> I have looked online for this; is there a way to make the gdm route the X session to a remote X server already started?  The other machine would have a static IP address.
[12:58] <ciplogic> nickrud: I believe you... I was only affraid of that side...
[12:58] <zanth> I was wondering if there was anything like kxdocker for gnome?
[12:58] <sethk> redguy, not only that, but it has a mode that does exactly what he wants.  He's just bitching because it isn't the default.  That's not reasonable at all.
[12:59] <Sanne> spoons, no, I don't have those problems on Breezy. But there's one: you would need to get blender for python2.3 and also install python2.3 from apt (if you want to use that), because breezy's python2.4 isn't compatible with blender/python2.3
[12:59] <kingspawn> the os wars are getting old. no need.
[12:59] <_jim_> hey guys , can anyone help me ? ubuntu cant see my other Fat32 partitions
[12:59] <NickGarvey> I'd use !wars but I had to delete it (cough)
[12:59] <sethk> _jim_, why do you think that?
[12:59] <diomedes> redguy if they dont know about ip config then i highly doubt *nix is the os for them
[12:59] <kingspawn> NickGarvey: heh
[12:59] <nickrud> ms1.2!!
[12:59] <_jim_> i cant see my other partitions
[01:00] <rustlerharv> _jim_: is it your fstab
[01:00] <Milk_> diomedes, your a bit of a windows user then?
[01:00] <_jim_> whats fstab ?
[01:00] <sethk> _jim_, did the partitions exist when you installed ubuntu?
[01:00] <kingspawn> Milk_: let it go, man
[01:00] <codecaine> user under security? in the smb.conf?
[01:00] <_jim_> no seth
[01:00] <Milk_> kingspawn, but but but
[01:00] <_jim_> they was RAW
[01:00] <sethk> _jim_, that's the reason
[01:00] <_jim_> so
[01:00] <sethk> _jim_, you'll have to add them manually now
[01:00] <_jim_> is there a reason to fix that ?
[01:00] <redguy> diomedes: right, let that herd stick in the Windows world, so that we, the True Computer Users can have the power of unix just to ourselves
[01:00] <Milk_> codecaine, in the smb.conf... well... kinda
[01:00] <nalioth> !offtopic
[01:00] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[01:00] <_jim_> ah yeh :D
[01:00] <nickrud> _jim_, it's actually the file /etc/fstab , it's the definition of where disk partitions are mounted in the unified file system
[01:00] <rustlerharv> you need to add lines to fstab
[01:00] <nicolas__> ok i fixed all those broken packages, due to my usage of debian backports, everything would have go really well, from a fresh sarge to breezy, this is nothing risky
[01:01] <sethk> _jim_, a reason?  the reason is that you want to see the partitions
[01:01] <Sanne> spoons, I hope I wasn't too confusing...
[01:01] <Milk_> codecaine, check out the samba docs for adding a user
[01:01] <Milk_> codecaine, let me see if I can find a link
[01:01] <_jim_> sorry mistake
[01:01] <sethk> _jim_, it is easy to do, you simply have to edit /etc/fstab, as several have started to tell you
[01:01] <_jim_> so
[01:01] <_jim_> i open fstab in etc ?
[01:01] <baconbacon> !mount
[01:01] <ubotu> it has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:01] <sethk> _jim_, yes, with an editor
[01:01] <rustlerharv> sudo gedit
[01:01] <nickrud> _jim_, read the ubotu link that baconbacon so kindly provided
[01:01] <sethk> _jim_, rustlerharv 's was for you
[01:02] <diomedes> redguy no its horses for courses,  look at the lashing lindows/linspire got when if came out
[01:02] <_jim_> wow
[01:02] <Milk_> codecaine, http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2002-May/043748.html
[01:02] <nickrud> !mountwindows
[01:02] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:02] <_jim_> so much support in here lol thanks alot guys !
[01:02] <_jim_> ubuntu rox :D
[01:02] <nickrud> _jim_, check out the ubotu one just above as well
[01:02] <nalioth> diomedes: redguy: distro discussion can take place happily in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:02] <diomedes> sorry if i feel someone should know something about an os that can be used to be harmful to others if not looked after correctly
[01:02] <_jim_> alright
[01:02] <redguy> sorry nalioth
[01:02] <baconbacon> i glance once in a while to type !something and im praised for it :)
[01:03] <amphi> diomedes: dos can be used to be harmful to others ;)
[01:04] <dylonium> hey
[01:04] <rustlerharv> _jim_: the little life peserve has alot of this stuff in it
[01:04] <ciplogic> amphi: MS distros may be on #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[01:04] <amphi> ciplogic: ack
[01:05] <_jim_> hey guys
[01:05] <_jim_> i dont know the hda0 / 1 things
[01:05] <dylonium> Does anyone know how to boot on GRUB if its on an external HDD?
[01:05] <_jim_> and i cant access System/Disks
[01:05] <dylonium> it messed up my whole computer
[01:05] <baconbacon> hda is first hard disk, hdb first slave, hdc second master..
[01:05] <sethk> dylonium, your BIOS has to support it
[01:05] <Milk_> dylonium, thats dependent on your bios
[01:05] <sethk> dylonium, and most don't
[01:06] <dylonium> it does
[01:06] <codecaine> so you have to set a password for a user :/
[01:06] <dylonium> huh?
[01:06] <rustlerharv> _jim_: hda is your master hdd 1 is the first partition on it
[01:06] <Milk_> codecaine, you have to have the same user on both systems with the same smbpassword
[01:06] <amphi> _jim_: hda is the first disk on the first controller, hda1 the first parttion on that disk, hda2 the second, etc.
[01:06] <dylonium> i already screwed my comp. up, im running on a live version
[01:06] <dylonium> how can i get back on windows
[01:06] <sethk> dylonium, you can install grub on the MBR of the internal disk and have it boot from the external
[01:06] <baconbacon> hda1-2-3-4 are 1st,2nd,... primary partitions
[01:06] <dylonium> when i boot, it immidiately gets a gruub error
[01:06] <sethk> dylonium, what's the error?
[01:06] <rustlerharv> i love how 20 ppl answer the same ?
[01:06] <dylonium> hold on one sec
[01:06] <baconbacon> hda5-6-7-8-... are logical partitions
[01:06] <kingspawn> dylonium: have you still got the original partition?
[01:07] <NickGarvey> how do you make cat continue to dump a file?  like a log for example
[01:07] <kingspawn> dylonium: windows, that is
[01:07] <Milk_> rustlerharv, its called good service
[01:07] <sethk> rustlerharv, you want one right answer and 19 wrong ones?  :)
[01:07] <kingspawn> NickGarvey: doesnt tail have some kind of option?
[01:07] <amphi> NickGarvey: tail -f perhaps
[01:07] <Sanne> NickGarvey, I don't use cat, I use: tail -f <filename>
[01:07] <dylonium> yes i do
[01:07] <kingspawn> thats it
[01:07] <rustlerharv> at least you nkow its right
[01:07] <dylonium> i do have the original pertition
[01:07] <Milk_> rustlerharv, yep
[01:07] <dylonium> par*
[01:07] <NickGarvey> yeah I was thinking of tail, just wondering if cat had it too, alright though thank you
[01:07] <Milk_> codecaine, did that help?
[01:08] <dylonium> but i heard i have to use the recover disk in order to recover the MBR
[01:08] <sethk> dylonium, if you mean you have the original MBR, you can restore it
[01:08] <dylonium> but i lost it, and it doesnt work
[01:08] <codecaine> kinda but on windows I do use passwords for file sharing
[01:08] <sethk> dylonium, no, not true
[01:08] <dylonium> i do ahve it
[01:08] <dylonium> but how?
[01:08] <codecaine> I have a password to login to windows
[01:08] <sethk> dylonium, dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[01:08] <dylonium> Grub Loading stage 1.5.
[01:08] <dylonium> Error 21 ----thats the error btw
[01:08] <Milk_> codecaine, good, but you need the same user and password on linux
[01:08] <baconbacon> _jim_ you can use fdisk /dev/hda (command line) or disk manager in system menu to check partitions
[01:08] <dylonium> dylonium, dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 *whats that?*
[01:09] <kingspawn> dylonium: you can boot the windows cd and use fixmbr utility in rescue mode, if you just need to get back your windows mbr
[01:09] <Milk_> you know.. I asked a question when i came in. and I have no idea if it got answered
[01:09] <Milk_> hahaah
[01:09] <sethk> dylonium, that's how to restore the mbr
[01:09] <sethk> dylonium, which is what you asked
[01:09] <Milk_> Anyone here using a Joystick and maybe.. gl-117
[01:09] <_jim_> i mounted
[01:09] <dylonium> so how do i do it
[01:09] <_jim_> should i reboot now ?
[01:09] <dylonium> where do i type what u jsut gave me?
[01:09] <dylonium> that *dylonium, dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1*
[01:09] <sethk> _jim_, no
[01:09] <rustlerharv> _jim_: yes
[01:09] <_jim_> lol
[01:09] <sethk> _jim_, rebooting for what reason?
[01:09] <_jim_> to see them
[01:10] <_jim_> i got no confirmation
[01:10] <sethk> _jim_, just do mount -a
[01:10] <rustlerharv> you can reboot or mount manually
[01:10] <_jim_> and dont see them
[01:10] <dylonium> hello?
[01:10] <phoul> Excuse me
[01:10] <dylonium> where do i type *dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1*
[01:10] <NickGarvey> phoul: excused
[01:10] <alex_> hola
[01:10] <sethk> dylonium, at a command prompt.  where do you type anything?
[01:10] <phoul> Im looking for the latest dapper and such and somone just told me that this list: http://members.shaw.ca/darkcloud54/sources.list isnt the one to use
[01:10] <phoul> I was sure it was
[01:10] <dylonium> where can i get a command prompt
[01:10] <_jim_> mount -a dont do anything too
[01:10] <dylonium> thats my problem
[01:10] <nickrud> sethk, what's filename?
[01:10] <NickGarvey> !tell phoul about dapper
[01:11] <dylonium> where?
[01:11] <ciplogic> nickrud: I have clean up the partition, I format it as ext3 and no success :(
[01:11] <phoul> Umm could somone just check that list out tho
[01:11] <rustlerharv> _jim_: i reboot
[01:11] <sethk> nickrud, I'm not sure, what'a file?
[01:11] <phoul> because im running dapper
[01:11] <_jim_> hey guys
[01:11] <diomedes> so back ontopic there an easy kde install for ubuntu?
[01:11] <christianpiper> join #blenderQA
[01:11] <nickrud> ciplogic, ok, and arg, sethk :)
[01:11] <_jim_> when i do sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o umask=000
[01:11] <_jim_> i get a confirmation ?
[01:11] <dylonium> hello?
[01:11] <dylonium> where can i get a command prompt to type dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[01:12] <baconbacon> diomedes: ubuntu with KDE is kubuntu, check #kubuntu
[01:12] <sethk> _jim_, I'm not sure what you mean by a confirmation, but probably not, no
[01:12] <nickrud> ciplogic, what exactly are you trying to do? Last we talked, I thought you simply wanted to label your reiser partition
[01:12] <_jim_> alright
[01:12] <sethk> _jim_, you can do  ls /media/windows and you'll see files
[01:12] <rustlerharv> _jim_: you should get an error or see the drie were you told it to go
[01:12] <phoul> anyone here who can see it
[01:12] <dylonium> seth???
[01:12] <baconbacon> diomedes: but if you want kde and already have ubuntu installed, you can install the package kubuntu-desktop
[01:12] <dylonium> can you see my typing?
[01:12] <baconbacon> no
[01:12] <blind> nope.
[01:13] <kingspawn> diomedes: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, i believe.
[01:13] <dylonium> all joking aside
[01:13] <nickrud> ciplogic, ?
[01:13] <dylonium> someone help me out please
[01:13] <ciplogic> nickrud: the partition is /dev/hda1 mounted to /media/C an ex-FAT32 partition and as name is seen in GNOME as "+ \n //End; "
[01:13] <dylonium> where can i get a command prompt
[01:13] <dylonium> to type *dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1*
[01:13] <NickGarvey> dylonium: I see your typing, applictions > terminal
[01:13] <sethk> dylonium, sorry, I have to handle work stuff at the moment
[01:13] <ciplogic> nickrud: And is anoying at least because use 2 lines in places, and everywhere
[01:13] <NickGarvey> dylonium: wait.. of
[01:13] <blind> applications >accessories terminal
[01:13] <rustlerharv> dylonium: apps
[01:13] <dylonium> huh?
[01:13] <NickGarvey> haha sorry, no gui
[01:13] <dylonium> so just go to terminakl and paste dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[01:13] <deepak> hello
[01:14] <dylonium> and it should make my MBR recover?
[01:14] <nickrud> ciplogic, ok. You have a partition that's /hda1 , it's a fat32, and it has a totally useless label name. You want to change it to something useful ?
[01:14] <blind> yes dylonium
[01:14] <dylonium> THANKS SO MUCH
[01:14] <ciplogic> nickrud: was fat32
[01:14] <dylonium> ill be back in shortly
[01:14] <nickrud> ciplogic, was fat32, is now?
[01:14] <dylonium> can i set this irc chat as a favorite?
[01:14] <ciplogic> nickrud: now ext3 :P
[01:14] <ciplogic> nickrud: was until some moments ReiserFS
[01:15] <_jim_> k ill go rebooting now
[01:15] <_jim_> brb
[01:15] <dylonium> ill be back possibly
[01:15] <dylonium> pray for me-- hah
[01:15] <ciplogic> nickrud: every case mounted well, I know how to edit fstab,etc. only has a bad label :((
[01:15] <nickrud> ciplogic, if it's an ext3 partition, do:   sudo e2label /dev/hda1 <name you want>
[01:16] <ciplogic> should I logoff from gnome?
[01:16] <linxeh> I'm having a problem with my SD/MMC card reader - [4490680.628000]  generic_make_request: Trying to access nonexistent block-device mmcblk0 (0). I have tried mknod to create the device (even though there was a device there already) and it still isn't working. Any ideas?
[01:16] <ciplogic> nickrud: no effect :(
[01:16] <ciplogic> I umount and mount again :(
[01:16] <nickrud> ciplogic, no, you can do that from a terminal from inside gnome
[01:17] <ciplogic> I've done that
[01:17] <biovore> http://packages.ubuntu.com/  good for looking up package depencies
[01:17] <Seewai> is it possible to change the xorg bit depth on the fly?
[01:17] <Seewai> does anyone know
[01:17] <dylonium> it didnt work people
[01:17] <dylonium> *dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1*
[01:18] <ciplogic> seewai: nope... xrandr can change refresh and resolution
[01:18] <dylonium> it said, dd: opening `filename': No such file or directory
[01:18] <blind> what error did it give you, dylonium ?
[01:18] <jarle> How do I install a .deb file that I have already downloaded to my HD? (Opera)
[01:18] <Seewai> but it's not possible to change the bit depth?
[01:18] <rustlerharv> Seewai: idk if anything you would have to reboot x
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !tell jarle about deb
[01:18] <Jowi> Seewai: not possible. i can change resolutions though and refresh rate
[01:18] <nickrud> ciplogic that works here
[01:18] <blind> no no, you have to put an actual filename
[01:18] <dylonium> whats that mean?
[01:18] <Seewai> nuts
[01:18] <biovore> Seewai: hit ctrl alt + a few times..  if xorg is setup right you will flip though different modes and res
[01:18] <dylonium> what filename
[01:18] <dylonium> mbr?
[01:18] <kingspawn> dylonium: filename is just the filename of the mbr you said you had saved
[01:18] <dylonium> i dont know the actual directory
[01:18] <nickrud> ciplogic, on my mounted home partition (the things I try for people here :)
[01:18] <ciplogic> nickrud: life is anfair :)
[01:19] <dylonium> anyone know of the mbr extension for windows?
[01:19] <ciplogic> *unfair
[01:19] <Seewai> oh well
[01:19] <dylonium> do you guys get paid to help out?
[01:19] <Hobbsee> no
[01:19] <nickrud> dylonium, I get plenty of razzies, I live on them :)
[01:19] <biovore> no
[01:19] <dylonium> just makes u guys better right?
[01:19] <redguy> no
[01:19] <Seewai> cheers anyways
[01:19] <kingspawn> we get paid in smiles
[01:19] <kingspawn> (/cheese)
[01:19] <dylonium> wait, so anyone know the filename i can try?
[01:20] <blind> dylonium, you have to use the filename of the mbr
[01:20] <redguy> dylonium: did you do a backup of your mbr with dd earlier?
[01:20] <biovore> dylonium: mbr extention?
[01:20] <kingspawn> dylonium: did you specifically do "dd if=/dev/hda of=file bs=512 count=1" at one time?
[01:20] <dylonium> yes
[01:20] <kingspawn> dylonium: what did you call the file?
[01:20] <dylonium> idk about a backup
[01:20] <niocin> hey when i type mkdir /media/partitionname
[01:20] <dylonium> i still have it tho
[01:20] <niocin> it says "access denied
[01:20] <dylonium> its just GRUB tries to override it on the boot
[01:20] <kingspawn> niocin: sudo
[01:20] <blind> sudo, niocin
[01:20] <dylonium> so do you know where i can find this file?
[01:21] <kingspawn> dylonium: grub cant override this one, if youve got it
[01:21] <kingspawn> dylonium: where did you save it? thats the question.
[01:21] <niocin> so type sudo mkdir /media/pat
[01:21] <redguy> niocin: is it by any chance a windows partition?
[01:21] <dylonium> my internal hdd
[01:21] <dylonium> and i partitioned my ex hdd
[01:21] <niocin> yeah redguy
[01:21] <blind> yes niocin
[01:21] <dylonium> and then it tries to load grub, btu its on the ex and it tries to read the internal one
[01:21] <redguy> !tell niocin about ntfs
[01:21] <dylonium> and then my comoputer gets stuck
[01:21] <nickrud> dylonium, people hang out here to help for a lot of reason, but every single one of us does it for one reason: we want your os to work
[01:22] <dylonium> nice
[01:22] <blind> diskmounter for ntfs. can't beat it in ease and quickness......
[01:22] <dylonium> get what im saying?
[01:22] <kingspawn> dylonium: you put the mbr on your external hd?
[01:22] <dylonium> no, its on my internal hdd
[01:22] <redguy> niocin: read the wiki link ubotu sent you
[01:22] <niocin> thank you
[01:22] <redguy> niocin: if it's NTFS then write access is not supported
[01:23] <dylonium> i have to go eaty, ill be back in 5min
[01:23] <ciplogic> nickrud: how do I choose to reconfigure GNOME and reget the all configs?
[01:23] <dylonium> eat*
[01:23] <ciplogic> nickrud: I believe that is a problem of GNOME
[01:23] <dylonium> please stay ehre, give me 10 minutes
[01:23] <dylonium> thanks!
[01:23] <nickrud> ciplogic, you mean, reset your desktop to as if you have just started from scratch?
[01:23] <amphi> niocin: you might want to check out 'captive ntfs'
[01:23] <ciplogic> nickrud: yes
[01:23] <moparfan90> im trying to lunch boot-up manager and i get this error "Failed to run bum as user root:
[01:23] <moparfan90>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file"     what do i do??
[01:23] <ciplogic> I use GNOME
[01:24] <ciplogic> and as metapackage: ubuntu-desktop
[01:24] <amphi> ciplogic: shh ;)
[01:24] <nickrud> ciplogic, rm -r .gconf/* .gconfd/* .gnome/* .gnome2/*
[01:24] <_jim_> hey guys
[01:24] <_jim_> i made the dir /media/windows
[01:24] <_jim_> but when im trying to mount first the ntfs
[01:25] <_jim_> it says      mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[01:25] <ciplogic> I log off and I will relogin
[01:25] <julien> hello
[01:25] <rustlerharv> if its ntfs you need differnt options in fstab
[01:25] <amphi> _jim_: what does ls -l /dev/hda1 show?
[01:26] <codecaine> I have samba installed I don't see smbadduser anywhere
[01:26] <_jim_> root@10:~# ls -l /dev/hda1
[01:26] <_jim_> ls: /dev/hda1: No such file or directory
[01:26] <amphi> _jim_: how did you do that? ;)
[01:26] <rustlerharv> it shoulden if it didnt mount it
[01:27] <_jim_> so , what i should do ?
[01:27] <rustlerharv> _jim_: is hda 1 ntfs or fat
[01:27] <_jim_> ntfs
[01:27] <rustlerharv> did you put the same lines in fstab as the fat
[01:27] <niocin> okay i did the diskmounter thing and it says no available partitions
[01:27] <_jim_> no
[01:27] <_jim_> its different
[01:27] <rustlerharv> what did you put
[01:28] <amphi> _jim_: it seems you lack the file in /dev for some reason
[01:28] <NickGarvey> _jim_: which is bad
[01:28] <niocin> redguy: i type sudo fdisk -l it gives me my 200gb external, like it lists it there, but i cant access it anywehre, or am i just blind?
[01:28] <_jim_> surt
[01:28] <NickGarvey> _jim_: because even if there is nothing there.. /dev/hda10 should still be there
[01:28] <ciplogic> I hate my drive C :)
[01:28] <NickGarvey> wel 9
[01:28] <_jim_> rustlerharv, i typed something different before for fat
[01:28] <kingspawn> niocin: what does the fdisk -l output? pastebin it
[01:29] <NickGarvey> oh wait
[01:29] <NickGarvey> maybe not.
[01:29] <niocin> kingspawn: pastebin?
[01:29] <kingspawn> !pastebin
[01:29] <niocin> kingspawn: oh i didnt that earlier
[01:29] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:29] <redguy> niocin: sorry, cant help you, got to go
[01:29] <rustlerharv> the option is differnt too
[01:29] <Bog_> is there an ubuntu virtual machine?
[01:30] <rustlerharv> _jim_: i tihnk its umask=002 for ntfs
[01:30] <crimsun> for version 5.10, yes, Bog_.
[01:30] <_jim_> oo
[01:30] <niocin> kingspawn: i mean i did that earlier
[01:30] <Bog_> crim: where would I download it?
[01:30] <crimsun> _jim_: 022.
[01:30] <_jim_> in FAQ it says 0222
[01:30] <rustlerharv> look it up cuz thats off mory
[01:30] <kingspawn> niocin: oh, I didnt know that
[01:30] <crimsun> Bog_: from vmware's Web site
[01:31] <Bog_> crim: I dont mean the player, I mean a pre-installed ubuntu image
[01:31] <_jim_> still the same about special device dont exist
[01:31] <ciplogic> I will remove gtk and I will reinstall metapackage Ubuntu-dekstop and will reconfigure the drives
[01:31] <amphi> _jim_: you can recreate the device file (if you need to) by doing 'cd dev; sudo mknod -m 660 hda1 b 3 1 && sudo chgrp disk hda1'
[01:31] <niocin> kingspawn: are you looking at my pastebin? or what. I'm new to this.
[01:32] <rustlerharv> _jim_: 0222 is right
[01:32] <amphi> _jim_: make that 'cd /dev' above, sorry
[01:32] <_jim_> guys , i tried to mount fat and it saying same thing : mount: special device /dev/hda2 does not exist
[01:32] <amphi> _jim_: note the leading slash
[01:32] <kingspawn> niocin: I dont know where your pastebin is
[01:33] <kingspawn> niocin: I would need the url
[01:33] <_jim_> im in /dev
[01:33] <produkt_> what's libdb-4.2.so and how do I get it?
[01:33] <nickrud> _jim_, sudo fdisk -l will tell you about your available partitions, does hda2 appear?
[01:33] <amphi> _jim_: ok - no hda? files at all?
[01:33] <Sivik> i need some help with some wireless drivers
[01:33] <ciplogic> _jim_ : use sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[01:33] <_jim_> Ooo
[01:33] <niocin> kingspawn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12903
[01:33] <_jim_> with fdisk -l i see many things
[01:33] <ciplogic> _jim_: if starts means that you have hda
[01:33] <_jim_> non of them is HDA
[01:33] <_jim_> every is SDA
[01:34] <amphi> _jim_: arrgh
[01:34] <ciplogic> _jim_ : pressing P will show the partition list
[01:34] <nickrud> _jim_, ah
[01:34] <kingspawn> niocin: okay, is the 200gb drive the one you want to interact with?
[01:34] <niocin> kingspawn: yeah and i have ubuntu installed on the 30
[01:34] <_jim_> is it bad ?
[01:34] <nickrud> luckily (for me) I know nothing about sda stuff, I get to bow out
[01:35] <ciplogic> _jim_: SDA is for SATA/RAID drives
[01:35] <rustlerharv> ive never heard of sda
[01:35] <ciplogic> in rest works as HDA drives
[01:35] <_jim_> so
[01:35] <kingspawn> niocin: okay. problem is that there are no valid partitions recognized on that disk. what kind of filesystem have you got on it?
[01:35] <amphi> rustlerharv: first scsi device
[01:35] <_jim_> i can mount them too , right ?
[01:35] <Jowi> how do I export display :0 in tightvncserver?
[01:35] <_jim_> i got sata
[01:35] <niocin> kingspawn: its a fat16 i believe
[01:35] <_jim_> so i just change the letter H with S and try ?
[01:36] <niocin> kingspawn: or is that not what your asking haha
[01:36] <ciplogic> _jim_: to mount a /dev/sda1 like vfat you may use that command: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -fs vfat
[01:36] <kingspawn> niocin: yes, thats what i am asking. if you do sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd, and choose print, what does it output?
[01:37] <ciplogic> you should have created a folder named: /media/sda1
[01:37] <bobbyd> hi
[01:37] <dylonium> im back
[01:37] <NickGarvey> hello
[01:37] <ciplogic> Soon my Linux will quit :)
[01:38] <dylonium> wait, so where is the MBR located for windows?
[01:38] <bobbyd> i want to add: "export PATH=$PATH:$PSPDEV/bin/" every time I log in, where should I put that so every shell I open has that set? .bashrc?
[01:38] <kingspawn> dylonium: I am telling you, this really does depend on where you saved that file
[01:38] <niocin> kingspawn: raw - sectors - table - cancle
[01:38] <kingspawn> bobbyd: /etc/login.defs
[01:38] <dylonium> the default place
[01:38] <dylonium> for windows
[01:38] <bobbyd> kingspawn, thanks
[01:38] <kingspawn> niocin: no info about partitions at all?
[01:38] <dylonium> should it be like C:/WINDOWS/filename
[01:38] <bobbyd> kingspawn, but I just want it for my user, not everyone...
[01:39] <_jim_> do i need to mount my ntfs primary boot sda1 ?
[01:39] <nickrud> dylonium, the mbr is on the very beginning of a device: far more often than not on the first hard drive on the first socket on the mother board
[01:39] <kingspawn> dylonium: there is no default place. the MBR is 512 bytes at the beginning of your disk telling grub/windows where to boot
[01:39] <_jim_> its already in desktop but i cant access it
[01:39] <niocin> kingspawn: yeah like name: hdd1 ---part type : primary---FS type: FAT16
[01:39] <txoinas> wenas gente
[01:39] <txoinas> algun espaol ?
[01:39] <nickrud> !es
[01:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:39] <kingspawn> niocin: now we're talking
[01:39] <dylonium> how can i fix my problem then?
[01:39] <niocin> kingspawn haha
[01:39] <moparfan90> hello... im running xubuntu and downloaded a theme... how do i extract it?
[01:39] <dylonium> i was told i have to get my recovery disk and go into the recover mode and type: fix mbr
[01:39] <kingspawn> niocin: okay, out of cfdisk, and: sudo mkdir /media/hdd1
[01:40] <Sivik> anyone use the drivers for the bcm43xx wireless cards?
[01:40] <NickGarvey> Sivik: pick me pick me
[01:40] <kingspawn> dylonium: not "fix mbr" but "fixmbr"
[01:40] <NickGarvey> !bcm43xx
[01:40] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[01:40] <nickrud> !bcm43xx
[01:40] <NickGarvey> I win
[01:40] <nickrud> heh
[01:40] <dylonium> yes
[01:40] <niocin> kingspawn: okay
[01:40] <txoinas> i try, sudo apt-get install etherboot but not install, how install it
[01:40] <kingspawn> niocin: done that?
[01:40] <niocin> kingspawn: yep
[01:40] <dylonium> but how can i do this in a shorter form?
[01:40] <dylonium> cause i cant get into my CD
[01:40] <dylonium> it needs a pw
[01:40] <dylonium> and i dotn ahve itm, and its not my windows default username
[01:41] <dylonium> and troubleshooting ideas?
[01:41] <linxeh> is there any way I can manually remove an entry from the installed package list ?
[01:41] <kingspawn> niocin: now: sudo mount -t msdos /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1
[01:41] <Sivik> that url doesn't exsit
[01:41] <niocin> kingspawn: okay, and it didnt say anything after, was it supposed to?
[01:41] <NickGarvey> Sivik: oh that sucks, let me check it
[01:41] <codecaine> I did smbpasswd -a codecaine then enter the password twice same password I use on window and linux and user name but still can't see the shared folder on winxp pro
[01:41] <niocin> kingspawn: OMG IT WORKED
[01:41] <niocin> kingspawn: i love you
[01:41] <nickrud> dylonium, if you were trying to get an mbr that booted linux, you'd probably get lots of help here, for fixing windows ?
[01:41] <niocin> kingspawn: haha
[01:41] <kingspawn> niocin: :)
[01:41] <NickGarvey> Sivik: yes it does..
[01:41] <kingspawn> niocin: lets get married ;)
[01:42] <NickGarvey> Sivik: 1. Using Broadcom Wireless in Ubuntu Breezy 5.10
[01:42] <kingspawn> niocin: great
[01:42] <Sivik> This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.
[01:42] <niocin> kingspawn: OKAY! hha
[01:42] <Sivik> thats what it gave me
[01:42] <dylonium> im so confused
[01:42] <Sivik> Nick: thats what it gave me
[01:42] <NickGarvey> Sivik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[01:42] <niocin> kingspawn: is there an easier way instead of typeing or coyping out kingspawn: every time?
[01:42] <niocin> kingspawn: haha
[01:42] <dylonium> does anyone know how to troubleshoot a windows admin passwrod?
[01:42] <kingspawn> niocin: Yes there is, you need to add this entry to your /etc/fstab
[01:42] <NickGarvey> !windows
[01:42] <ubotu> For help with microsoft windows, please visit ##windows
[01:42] <nickrud> I thought I heard somewhere that cafuego had done some work on the bcm43xx recently
[01:43] <Sivik> there we go
[01:43] <Sivik> it worked that way
[01:43] <kingspawn> niocin: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[01:43] <dylonium> thanks
[01:43] <niocin> kingspawn: mmk now?
[01:43] <Jowi> how do I export display :0 in tightvncserver? i can export :1 and so on without problem.
[01:43] <cafuego> nickrud: I only packaged the firmware, nothing else.
[01:43] <_jim_> YUPEEEEEEEEE I mounted my 2 fat32 partitions!
[01:43] <dylonium> ill still stay in here
[01:43] <nickrud> cafuego, I brought it up because of :
[01:43] <_jim_> now guys , i need help how to access the already mounted Primary Boot partition
[01:43] <dylonium> just in case i need help
[01:43] <nickrud> !bcm43xx
[01:43] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[01:44] <kingspawn> niocin: look at the other entries, at the bottom, start a new entry, and make it like: /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1 msdos,umask=0000,fmask=0111,auto
[01:44] <moparfan90> how do i extract a .tar.gz file in terminal???
[01:44] <kingspawn> moparfan90: tar zxvf file
[01:44] <derekS> moparfan90: tar xvzf file
[01:44] <nickrud> cafuego, was mentioned as a bad link, my bad for not checking
[01:44] <derekS> haha
[01:44] <moparfan90> ok
[01:44] <kingspawn> derekS: ;)
[01:44] <moparfan90> thanks
[01:44] <xnull> how can I make archives with zip ?
[01:44] <jimcooncat> nautilus question: I want to right-click on a file and get the md5sum. How to set this up so it's easy?
[01:45] <dylonium> zip cvf filename.zip ?
[01:45] <dylonium> nvm
[01:45] <linxeh> zip filename.zip list.of.files
[01:45] <linxeh> you may need -r for recursive
[01:45] <_jim_> hey guys how i can label my mounted partitions ?
[01:46] <niocin> kingspawn: i have no clue haha, its fine i'll just stick to typing it out for now lmao
[01:46] <moparfan90> where are the themes stored for xfce?
[01:46] <kingspawn> niocin: if you just add the line i gave you to the end of /etc/fstab, you should be okay
[01:46] <xnull> linxeh filename.zip dirs ?
[01:46] <chucks> hello , could someone help me with a trouble i got with my laptop?
[01:47] <linxeh> xnull: zip -r filename.zip dirs
[01:47] <zyth> Anyone here ever install/use ISPConfig on Ubuntu?
[01:47] <nicolas__> how do i manually get the pubkey for aptget ?
[01:47] <xnull> linxeh thanks
[01:47] <morose> oyeee i'm back :(
[01:47] <moparfan90> sudo apt-get install pubkey .... maybe
[01:47] <Caminomaster> Hello
[01:47] <moparfan90> lol idk
[01:48] <nicolas__> no
[01:48] <Caminomaster> How can I configure aMSn to talk? (audio)
[01:48] <christianpiper> GAH! Anyone know how to find/install libcario1 on a ubununtu dapper machine?
[01:48] <niocin> kingspawn: i type that out and then i hit ctrl+x to get out then hit y to save and it says error writing /ect/fstab
[01:48] <jmg> apt-get install ubuntu-keyring
[01:48] <niocin> kingspawn: no such file dir
[01:48] <kingspawn> niocin: /etc, not /ect
[01:48] <johntramp> hey i have a problem with the xorg in ubuntu on my brother's computer.  he just installed 5.10 and then updated everything overnight and then this morning xorg wouldn't start,  so I reinstalled the ATI modules and now xorg starts but there are 8 overlapping screens
[01:48] <johntramp> has anyone seen this before?
[01:48] <xnull> linxeh i got some warnings zip warning: name not matched: acs39co/acs39co/homedir/catalogs/acs39co/images
[01:48] <nicolas__> jmg: thx
[01:49] <nickrud> nicolas__, gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv  437D05B5      gpg --export --armor 437D05B5  | sudo apt-key add -
[01:49] <xnull> linxeh: its everything ok? or ?
[01:49] <linxeh> johntramp: I've had no end of trouble with the ATI drivers so far
[01:49] <linxeh> but I'm using Dapper, so :o
[01:49] <morose> does one have to install spamassassin manually on breezy badger
[01:49] <linxeh> xnull: does that path exist ?
[01:49] <morose> (5.10)
[01:49] <nickrud> nicolas__, erm, sorry  use :gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv  437D05B5  && gpg --export --armor 437D05B5  | sudo apt-key add -
[01:49] <linxeh> morose: think its in either multiverse or universe
[01:49] <niocin> kingspawn: er thats what i typed haha
[01:49] <xnull> linxeh: its a link
[01:49] <nicolas__> nickrud: thats what i was looking for but installing ubuntu-keyring fixed it
[01:49] <Caminomaster> How can I configure aMSn to talk? (audio)
[01:50] <johntramp> linxeh, well he doesn't need 3d rendering,  just to be able to use the computer
[01:50] <kingspawn> niocin: there is no doubt that you have a /etc/fstab - you arent on a live cd are you?
[01:50] <nickrud> nicolas__, I'm always glad to hear of a shortcut :)
[01:50] <morose> linxeh: s'anks
[01:50] <matth-w> It actually almost seems like I'm having a problem running my hardware...
[01:50] <matth-w> Because my cam isn't working, my cd-r is having problems.
[01:50] <ciplogic> nickrud: I was reinstalled GNOME and no progress :(
[01:50] <niocin> kingspawn: nope i'm on a install cd
[01:50] <_jim_> why i cant access Systen>Administration>Login Screen Setup ??????????/
[01:50] <linxeh> johntramp: have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, see the card/screen/Driver whatever section, and change it to "ati" from fglrx if that is what is there
[01:50] <kingspawn> niocin: then /etc/fstab exists, undoubtedly.
[01:50] <linxeh> xnull: humm
[01:50] <kbrooks> Caminomaster: #amsn ?
[01:51] <linxeh> xnull: zip files wont handle links well - its not a windows concept I guess; why not use tar.gz ?
[01:51] <nickrud> ciplogic, labels on a volume are nice, but not critical.
[01:51] <niocin> kingspawn: actually bro it doesnt
[01:51] <xnull> linxeh : cuz tar is not working
[01:51] <_jim_> hey whats the FAQ ubuntu official site ?
[01:51] <ciplogic> nickrud: you have right... :P
[01:51] <Jowi> !vnc
[01:51] <ubotu> [vnc]  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[01:51] <linxeh> xnull: what does tar do ?
[01:51] <christianpiper> Hello-- Does anybody know if it is possible to install libcario1 on dapper? I am trying to get Dr Queue installed...
[01:51] <_jim_> !faq
[01:51] <ubotu> The most Frequently Asked Questions of #ubuntu are summarized on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc - please have a look - see also !desktopguide
[01:51] <kingspawn> niocin: seriously? you are 100% sure here? ls -l /etc/fstab
[01:51] <xnull> linxeh: core dumped i was hacked
[01:51] <johntramp> linxeh, ah yes that was the first error -  missing module fglrx
[01:51] <amphi> xnull: see the -y option for zip for symlink option
[01:51] <niocin> kingspawn: wait, isnt /dev/hdd1 my 200gb one, i didnt install ubuntu on that
[01:51] <Jowi> !info x11vnc
[01:51] <steel> anyone have any idea how to get symlinks working in proftpd?
[01:51] <johntramp> linxeh, ill try that
[01:51] <ubotu> x11vnc: (VNC server which uses your current X11 session), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.7.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 420 kB, Installed size: 920 kB
[01:52] <ciplogic> christianpiper: it is installed by default
[01:52] <kingspawn> niocin: this is just to tell the system that it should make /dev/hdd1 available all the time
[01:52] <linxeh> johntramp,: it should work to get you up and runnign again - its what I've had to do here
[01:52] <linxeh> xnull: ouch; want a binary for tar?
[01:52] <xnull> linxeh: nope
[01:52] <ic56> Trying to install on a bad harddisk.  How do I tell the installer to run
[01:52] <niocin> kingspawn: yeah dude i'm in on file browser on etc and i dont see fstab
[01:52] <ic56> badblocks(8) when creating the filesystems?
[01:53] <kingspawn> niocin: get into a terminal, and type ls -l /etc/fstab
[01:53] <linxeh> maybe another thing you could do is make a ext2 filesystem in a file, and mount it with loopback?
[01:53] <linxeh> assuming you are trying to backup files
[01:53] <ciplogic> is name is: /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2
[01:53] <kingspawn> niocin: if it didnt exist, you probably wouldnt be able to boot your os
[01:53] <nickrud> niocin, are you saying that /etc/fstab doesn't exist?
[01:53] <christianpiper> On DAPPER? Really? Cause the .Deb installer said it couldn't fix the dependency- and apt-get install libcario1 didn't find the package....
[01:53] <ciplogic> you may use a symlink to your old references
[01:53] <xnull> linxeh: or can I do it with bunzip2? or gunzip ?
[01:53] <denisbr> Hi, What is include in the package ubuntu-desktop?
[01:53] <linxeh> xnull: those will only handle single files at a time; you normally use them with tar
[01:53] <ciplogic> the package is named: libcairo2
[01:54] <linxeh> xnull: you might be able to use cpio to create a cpio archive (older form of tar really), and gzip that etc
[01:54] <niocin> kingspawn: it says -rw-r--r--  1 root root 464 2005-07-08 06:08 /etc/fstab
[01:54] <ciplogic> but inside has references to libcairo1
[01:54] <kingspawn> niocin: it exists! now: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[01:54] <amphi> xnull: why can't you use tar?
[01:54] <scorchsaber> Hey, I want to install firefox 1.5.0.2, and I was wondering: Should I compile from source, or follow the directions for the default tar.gz that you can download (instructions:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion)
[01:54] <linxeh> amphi: it cores
[01:54] <nickrud> christianpiper, try libcairo2
[01:54] <niocin> kingspawn: hahaha woops, i was typing ect the entire time.......*slaps self*
[01:54] <Elazar> Can anyone recommend a simple tool for Ubuntu that I can use to add text to a PDF file or export it to some editable format that won't rip the document formatting to shreds?
[01:55] <nickrud> christianpiper, but dapper questions should be in #ubuntu+1
[01:55] <kingspawn> niocin: I was suspecting that ;)
[01:55] <amphi> xnull: try running the tar command under gdb and see why/where it segfaults, perhaps
[01:55] <niocin> kingspawn: sorrya bout that
[01:55] <kingspawn> niocin: its cool
[01:55] <linxeh> amphi: he was hacked; I think he's just trying to backup a bunch of files
[01:55] <farruinn> scorchsaber: If there is documentation on the wiki I would follow that
[01:55] <niocin> kingspawn: mmk did that, brb food
[01:56] <kingspawn> xnull: how did you get yourself hacked?
[01:56] <amphi> linxeh: ah
[01:56] <scorchsaber> farruin: There is documentation for both precedures
[01:56] <slavik> !ubotu
[01:56] <ubotu> ubotu is probably useless
[01:56] <kingspawn> niocin: k, leaving in about 5-10
[01:56] <Caminomaster> kbrooks, Yes,... can I configure aMSN to voice?
[01:56] <scorchsaber> Which should I choose?
[01:56] <kingspawn> nickrud: You know what I mean
[01:56] <denisbr> Elazar, use the pdftotext for edit a pdf file
[01:56] <linxeh> nickrud, depends if you are running a honeypot :)
[01:57] <nickrud> kingspawn, heh. It's all about voice :)
[01:57] <kingspawn> nickrud: :)
[01:57] <spoons> I need to update libgcc1 to 1:4.0.2, though if I go to remove the old one it says it will take 600 and some odd meg off my hdd and that it is critical.
[01:57] <spoons> what do I have to do to get Blender 2.41 installed!
[01:57] <zyth> hmm
[01:58] <linxeh> why remove the old one ?
[01:58] <Elazar> denisbr: That'll convert it to plain text, though, won't it?
[01:58] <nickrud> linxeh, and I stand corrected, that would be right voice
[01:58] <scorchsaber> Should I install from source or prebuilt tar.gz?
[01:58] <niocin> kingspawn: okay i'm back
[01:58] <spoons> linxeh don't I need to remove the old one to find the new one?
[01:58] <NickGarvey> spoons: same say you need to sell your soul...
[01:58] <chucks> linxeh- hey can i ask you some help?
[01:58] <linxeh> spoons: can you not just upgrade the packet ?
[01:58] <linxeh> err
[01:58] <linxeh> package
[01:59] <denisbr> Elazar, yes, convert all text
[01:59] <scorchsaber> Should I install Firefox from source, or from the prebuilt tar.gz?
[01:59] <farruinn> scorchsaber: I would go with the the tar.gz - it won't take as long
[01:59] <spoons> it says "libgcc1 is already the newest version."
[01:59] <scorchsaber> thank you
[01:59] <Elazar> denisbr: That's why I specifically said _won't_ rip the document formatting to shreds. :P
[02:00] <rustlerharv> scorchsaber:  what about repos
[02:00] <scorchsaber> repos doesn't have up-to-date anything, really
[02:00] <lilminimey06> hi everyone
[02:00] <nickrud> scorchsaber, from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:00] <lilminimey06> everytime i connect my ipod i need to type this in a console: "mount -o users,exec,suid,umask=0 /dev/sdb2 /mnt/ipod/" how can i make this auto?
[02:00] <romulo> hi, how i prevent one module from loading on kernel?
[02:00] <kingspawn> niocin: well, now you can test the fstab by first doing: sudo umount /media/hdd1  and then  sudo mount -a
[02:00] <niocin> kingspawn: mmk
[02:00] <scorchsaber> nickrud: I know, I have that page
[02:00] <johntramp> linxeh, no that didn't change anything :(
[02:00] <denisbr> What it is include in the package ubuntu-desktop? I want delete the package update-notifier, more is removing the package ubuntu-desktop
[02:00] <nickrud> scorchsaber, that wiki page will integrate firefox 1.5x properly with ubuntu
[02:00] <dylonium> aha, i got the pw problem
[02:01] <spoons> If I upgrade to the new Beta unbuntu, will it run blender3d 2.41
[02:01] <dylonium> so im fixed
[02:01] <dylonium> hopefully
[02:01] <lilminimey06> anyone?
[02:01] <niocin> kingspawn: mmk i did that, now i check in file browser?
[02:01] <scorchsaber> Yes. Thanks though
[02:01] <kingspawn> niocin: seems clever
[02:01] <denisbr> Elazar, Sorry, I don't program for it
[02:01] <amphi> denisbr: don't worry about that - ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package
[02:01] <rustlerharv> spoons: it runs blender
[02:01] <scorchsaber> the one on compiling also mentions that page to integrate your compiled version
[02:01] <nickrud> scorchsaber, if you'd already seen that page, why even ask
[02:01] <rustlerharv> idk about that version
[02:01] <niocin> kingspawn: yep its there
[02:02] <farruinn> spoons: You can check versions of packages on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:02] <kingspawn> niocin: then you're good to go, and it will mount every boot
[02:02] <scorchsaber> nickrud: I didn't know whether to compile or use the default tar.gz
[02:02] <spoons> rustlerharv do you know if it is version 2.41? I can install blender 2.37 but its missing features I need for the tutorials.
[02:02] <scorchsaber> it was a deciosion
[02:02] <ic56> denisbr: dpkg -L ubuntu-desktop
[02:02] <denisbr> amphi, humm, then How I removed the update-notifier our disabilited the automatic run?
[02:02] <scorchsaber> bleh
[02:02] <lilminimey06> dont anyone know?
[02:02] <niocin> kingspawn: mmk saweet, now about the whole typing out kingspawn: thing, is that something i'm just gonna have to do, or can i like shift click?
[02:02] <nickrud> scorchsaber, ah. Sorry, I hadn't seen it since some effort to mention self-compiled packages had been added.
[02:02] <amphi> denisbr: huh?
[02:02] <kingspawn> niocin: what do you mean now?
[02:02] <lilminimey06> i need to do that my ipod automaticly mounts when connected
[02:03] <amphi> ipod schmipod
[02:03] <scorchsaber> nickrud: I don't understand. What?
[02:03] <rustlerharv> spoons: im running 2.41
[02:03] <nicolas__> is there a metapackage for all the stuff that is normally installed at first boot ?
[02:03] <denisbr> amphi, How I removed the package update-notifier ?
[02:03] <niocin> kingspawn: how i have to type out kingspawn: every time, is there an easier way?
[02:03] <kingspawn> niocin: oh, heh, just type ki and hit tab
[02:03] <amphi> denisbr: htf would I know how you removed it?
[02:03] <nickrud> scorchsaber, never mind me. I'll just point at that page, and shut up :)
[02:04] <niocin> kingspawn, nice
[02:04] <rustlerharv> idk how to use it yet but thats what im runnning
[02:04] <scorchsaber> nickrud: :D
[02:04] <niocin> kingspawn, that makes me less typing haha
[02:04] <Sivik> what is the easy way to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[02:04] <grungy> I ruined my sources.list and ran apt-get upgrade-dist
[02:04] <kingspawn> niocin: does, doesnt it? :)
[02:04] <spoons> rustlerharv do you know if I can upgrade ubuntu to the latest version without messing up my setup?
[02:04] <scorchsaber> thanks anyway nickrud
[02:04] <niocin> kingspawn, lol
[02:04] <amphi> niocin: soon you'll find yourself trying to tab-complete every word ;)
[02:04] <hondadarrell> anyone know where the C: drive is in wine?
[02:04] <niocin> amphi, LOL yeah watch
[02:05] <NickGarvey> hondadarrell: need to mount it.. !mount
[02:05] <kingspawn> oh well, im off for the night
[02:05] <rustlerharv> spoons: upgrading to dapper in general or for blender
[02:05] <amphi> niocin: there's a script for irssi that uses a dictionary to let you do just that
[02:05] <denisbr> amphi, yes, our How I then for to remove the execute automatic?
[02:05] <spoons> rustlerharv upgrading to dapper
[02:05] <hondadarrell> !mount
[02:05] <ubotu> mount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:05] <scorchsaber> Is there any terminal that accepts a command like Ctrl-V and C?
[02:05] <scorchsaber> I mean, i makes it a bit difficult
[02:05] <grungy> Is it possible to edit the sources.list in /etc/apt/sources.list from the cli?
[02:05] <greenbmw530i> can someone help me out with the flashplayer plugin for firefox?
[02:06] <scorchsaber> it* makes it a bit difficult
[02:06] <niocin> amphi, LoL wow you linux users get WAY lazy huh?
[02:06] <kingspawn> scorchsaber: ctrl-insert is copy, shift-insert is paste
[02:06] <kingspawn> grungy: yes yes
[02:06] <niocin> kingspawn, hey wait, if i want to put somehting on the hd, or change the name it wont let met
[02:06] <inazad_> Anyone can help me about my nividia tv out ?
[02:06] <greenbmw530i> can someone help me  with the flashplayer plugin for firefox?
[02:07] <rustlerharv> spoons: i tihnk it would prolly depend ive upgrade b4 with no problems other then having to reenable me nvidia drivers
[02:07] <linxeh> niocin, it's not a linux thing :p
[02:07] <grungy> could you possibly tell me a way
[02:07] <niocin> linxeh, haha
[02:07] <grungy> it would be most appreciated
[02:07] <farruinn> scorchsaber: if you're in gnome-terminal just add shift for your ctrl-c/v type stuff
[02:07] <amphi> denisbr: sorry, you are hard to understand; you can use apt-get to remove the package; nothing else will be removed, just the ubuntu-desktop meta-package will no longer be installed, because one of the packages it 'contains' is being removed
[02:07] <scorchsaber> Hm.. thanks
[02:07] <kingspawn> niocin: type !vfat in the channel here, and read the link on the wiki
[02:07] <niocin> !vfat
[02:07] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:07] <amphi> niocin: heh
[02:08] <NickGarvey> amphi: where can I find that script!? I have done that more than once, be like... supercali (tab tab tab) hey what the?...
[02:08] <rustlerharv> spoons: what tutorial are you r\unning
[02:08] <greenbmw530i> can someone help me  with the flashplayer plugin for firefox?
[02:08] <amphi> NickGarvey: heh - irssi.org
[02:08] <vinboy> hi
[02:09] <nickrud> green_earz, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[02:09] <vinboy> how do I check my Xorg version?
[02:09] <varsendagger> ahh my computer keeps rebooting when i leave   how can i find out why it is doing this?
[02:09] <varsendagger> hig
[02:09] <Sivik> green: are you using i386 or x86_64?
[02:09] <varsendagger> hi
[02:09] <greenbmw530i> i get a "NOTE:  Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[02:09] <greenbmw530i>  components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser"
[02:09] <nickrud> vinboy, X -version
[02:09] <greenbmw530i> i386
[02:09] <Sivik> then it should be very simple
[02:09] <amphi> NickGarvey: dictcomplete.pl it's called
[02:09] <grungy> could someone possible tell me how to edit a text file from the cli?
[02:09] <greenbmw530i> when i try to delete the two xpti.dat's, it says I don't have access.
[02:09] <Sivik> just go to a page that needs the plugin and click on the plugin
[02:09] <greenbmw530i> yeah
[02:09] <Sivik> cli?
[02:09] <greenbmw530i> then i download
[02:09] <_jason> grungy: nano /path/to/file
[02:09] <grungy> gedit will certainly not work
[02:09] <scorchsaber> scorchsaber@ubuntuDJ:/$ mv .mozilla/firefox .mozilla/firefox1.0.x.ubuntu
[02:09] <scorchsaber> mv: cannot stat `.mozilla/firefox': No such file or directory
[02:09] <Sivik> try vi
[02:09] <grungy> command line interface
[02:09] <varsendagger> anyone?
[02:10] <Sivik> vi works
[02:10] <Sivik> vi filenam
[02:10] <grungy> damn, I don't know vi
[02:10] <greenbmw530i> read the readme...do it, but i get "NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[02:10] <greenbmw530i>       components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser"
[02:10] <grungy> how about emacs?
[02:10] <scorchsaber> Whats up with that? .mozilla is a hidden file, and there, and so is firefox in it. What do I need to do?
[02:10] <NickGarvey> grungy: nano then?
[02:10] <nickrud> greenbmw530i, use sudo to remove those files (although I never had to)
[02:10] <grungy> seems more intuitive
[02:10] <Sivik> green: it should it do automatily
[02:10] <amphi> grungy: there's mcedit too
[02:10] <greenbmw530i> it tells me i need an administrator to do so
[02:10] <vinboy> thanks nickrud
[02:10] <greenbmw530i> but i'll try sudo
[02:10] <greenbmw530i> ty
[02:10] <grungy> would sudo vi filename work also
[02:10] <grungy> ?
[02:11] <nickrud> grungy, for editing system files, yes
[02:11] <greenbmw530i> btw, how can i just log in as root/admin so i don't have to worry about things like this?
[02:11] <sethk> grungy, sure
[02:11] <nickrud> greenbmw530i, use sudo
[02:11] <j1p> gr33npho3nix, logging in as root is bad, use sudo
[02:11] <grungy> cool, thanks, this is great
[02:11] <grungy> I love it
[02:11] <sethk> greenbmw530i, it's better to do sudo -i to get a root command shell
[02:11] <greenbmw530i> k
[02:11] <scorchsaber> greenbmw530i: You really don't want to, bad for security and all
[02:11] <greenbmw530i> ok, thanks
[02:11] <nickrud> greenbmw530i, it's a way of getting admin/root privileges, and a safe one
[02:11] <dli> greenbmw530i, I enable root passwd on ubuntu :)
[02:11] <scorchsaber> whats up with this:
[02:11] <scorchsaber> scorchsaber@ubuntuDJ:/$ mv .mozilla/firefox .mozilla/firefox1.0.x.ubuntu
[02:11] <scorchsaber> mv: cannot stat `.mozilla/firefox': No such file or directory
[02:11] <farruinn> sethk: What's the difference between sudo -i and sudo -s -H?
[02:12] <nickrud> dli, don't tempt people :)
[02:12] <scorchsaber> There is that directory
[02:12] <scorchsaber> But it won't move it?
[02:12] <johntramp> linxeh, hmmm now all i get is a black screen
[02:12] <grungy> well the problem is is that I ruined my sources.list for apt, so I'm stuck sans gui
[02:12] <grungy> I'll try vi
[02:12] <sethk> farruinn, -s sets the shell for each command, it isn't about getting a shell to enter multiple commands
[02:12] <grungy> thanks guys
[02:13] <nickrud> farruinn, you can see for yourself: do sudo -i , then env | sort. Then do sudo , then env | sort .
[02:13] <Sivik> how do you upgrade from brezzy to dapper
[02:13] <scorchsaber> solved it
[02:13] <_jason> !upgrade
[02:13] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[02:13] <scorchsaber> had to add ~/ in front
[02:13] <_jason> Sivik: beware that dapper is still beta
[02:13] <scorchsaber> I'll change the wiki to support that I guess
[02:13] <Sivik> i don't care
[02:13] <greenbmw530i> bah, whats the command to delete files in terminal?
[02:13] <nickrud> farruinn, the critical issue is what is your home dir, sudo -i uses /root and sudo uses /home/<you>
[02:13] <Sivik> i need the newer kernel
[02:13] <_jason> greenbmw530i: rm
[02:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell greenbmw530i about cli
[02:13] <Sivik> rm green
[02:14] <Redbluefire> Hey, X refuses to start on my fresh ubuntu install
[02:14] <Sivik> green: its rm and if its a folder, its rm -r
[02:14] <greenbmw530i> many thanks
[02:14] <Redbluefire> I've tracked it to the config file, but dexconf errors out
[02:14] <Sivik> green: yw
[02:14] <johntramp> can't i browse the ubuntu forums without registering?
[02:15] <nickrud> Redbluefire, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't get you a working X?
[02:15] <niocin> Will someone help me install wine?
[02:15] <newbuntu> can anyone tell me what the best way to convert a downloaded avi movie into  mpg so I can turn around and have k3b burn it to a vcd that can be watched on a dvdplayer?
[02:15] <crimsun> niocin: enable universe, then use Synaptic to install wine
[02:15] <nickrud> no, wine is evil (rflmao)
[02:15] <NickGarvey> newbuntu: I saw a perl script, avi2mpeg
[02:15] <newbuntu> niocin apt-get install wine  then install winetools
[02:16] <ic56> cat: ../q1: No such file or directory
[02:16] <j1p> niocin, you should use the wine apt repository, instead of ubuntu's
[02:16] <newbuntu> im still shakey on scripts
[02:16] <Redbluefire> Password? what's the default root password, or is it my password?
[02:16] <niocin> jlp, how woudl i do that?
[02:16] <linxeh> johntramp: humm; maybe you dont have the xorg-driver-ati package installed ?
[02:16] <nickrud> Redbluefire, there is no root password
[02:16] <j1p> niocin, add deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ to your sources.list
[02:16] <nickrud> !tell Redbluefire about root
[02:16] <linxeh> johntramp, or the display settings (refresh, resolution etc) is incorrect for the driver ?
[02:17] <niocin> jlp, i've done that
[02:17] <ic56> Trying to install on a bad harddisk.  How do I tell the installer to run badblocks(8) when creating the filesystems?
[02:17] <nickrud> Redbluefire, that msg you just got will give you an overview
[02:17] <j1p> niocin, alright, have you updated /etc/apt/preferences?
[02:17] <Redbluefire> nope, x still has the same error
[02:17] <niocin> jlp, nope
[02:17] <steel> how do i mount only a subdirectory of a hard drive into another hard drive
[02:17] <j1p> niocin, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb should have all the information you need
[02:17] <linxeh> ic56: ctrl+alt+f1, get a command prompt and do it by hand, then dont let the installer format maybe ?
[02:17] <niocin> jlp, okay
[02:18] <rustlerharv> steel: what file systems
[02:18] <nickrud> Redbluefire, if you'd post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:18] <dougiefresh> greetings, what is the latest stable release of ubuntu?
[02:18] <Redbluefire> hmm, it's on the other computer, can i do that via command prompt?
[02:18] <amphi> steel: you mount partitions
[02:18] <steel> a windows partition
[02:18] <johntramp> linxeh, usually when they are the problem xorg wont start tho wont it?  would it have anything to do with the dri line?
[02:18] <rustlerharv> ntfs or fat
[02:18] <steel> fat
[02:18] <nickrud> Redbluefire, hm, yes, there's a script to help with that, a sec
[02:18] <Redbluefire> hehe
[02:19] <schultzi> hey, quick question, is there any way i can get an image background for my framebuffer?
[02:19] <amphi> steel: mount -t vfat /dev/whatever /mount/point
[02:19] <rustlerharv> you should be able mv them
[02:19] <dougiefresh> anyone?
[02:19] <johntramp> linxeh, is there an xorgconfig of some sort which i can run so that it generates the same xorg file as after a new install?
[02:19] <steel> but how do i mount only part of the drive... i dont want to mount the whole HD only a subdirectory within it
[02:19] <majd> hi
[02:20] <rustlerharv> steel: y not the whole ting
[02:20] <amphi> steel: you mount partitions
[02:20] <majd> can i use wine to install my camera's driver and then load up msn messenger (also using wine) and use my webcam?
[02:20] <dougiefresh> breezy is out of beta isn't it?
[02:20] <crimsun> breezy released in october 2005.
[02:20] <brandon_> steel: the path to the subdirectory should be in the /dev/whatever section
[02:20] <steel> im sharing it for FTP, don't need to FTP my personal files
[02:20] <ic56> dougiefresh: breezy badger (5.10) is current.  Dapper Drake, the next one, is due June 1st
[02:20] <schultzi> majd: it probably wont work, something as low-level as drivers dont play well with wine
[02:20] <brandon_> steel: so /dev/drive/pathtodirectory
[02:21] <steel> thanks
[02:21] <myleftfoot> \join #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <nickrud> does anyone have seveas's python pastebin script at hand, I can't seem to google it
[02:21] <steel> wrong slash
[02:21] <myleftfoot> hehe, wrong slashy
[02:21] <dougiefresh> so if I'm running breezy what would I put in apt.sources file?
[02:22] <Seveas> nickrud, perhaps it's linked on the pastebin site....
[02:22] <nickrud> Seveas, doh, kick me again :)
[02:22] <Redbluefire> heh
[02:22] <majd> what kernel version does breezy 5.10 use?
[02:22] <rustlerharv> dougiefresh: change breezy to dapper
[02:22] <Seveas> majd, 2.6.12
[02:22] <majd> k thanks
[02:22] <Sivik> 2.6.12
[02:22] <dougiefresh> but isn't dapper beta?
[02:23] <steel> what kernal do i have to have to mount things to multiple places
[02:23] <schultzi> anybody good with framebuffers?
[02:23] <rustlerharv> ya
[02:23] <dougiefresh> dont wanna use beta
[02:23] <Sivik> how do i upgrade from breezy to dapper
[02:23] <amphi> steel: what do you mean?
[02:23] <Seveas> !tell Sivik about upgrade
[02:23] <nickrud> Seveas I meant the one that doesn't need a gui, I know I saw it once
[02:23] <steel> amphi: there's a new kernal that allows mounting HDs to multiple places, i might not be that high up
[02:23] <scorchsaber> Firefox is correctly installed, and an error in the wiki changed
[02:23] <rustlerharv> dougiefresh: then dont upgrae
[02:24] <scorchsaber> Hooah!
[02:24] <biovore> steel: thats nothing new
[02:24] <nickrud> Seveas, and you need a better sense of humor, or a better sense of context
[02:24] <dougiefresh> nothing trying to upgrade?
[02:24] <dougiefresh> :)
[02:24] <dougiefresh> trying to bootstrap it
[02:24] <varsendagger> Seveas, ahh my computer keeps rebooting when i leave   how can i find out why it is doing this?
[02:24] <astro9040> hello
[02:24] <steel> well i dont think mine is doing it
[02:24] <astro9040> on .deb files i use dpkg right?
[02:24] <steel> because when i try to mount it it says it doesnt exist
[02:25] <steel> and it does
[02:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> steel: Wouldn't using a symlink be easier?
[02:25] <amphi> steel: you can't mount a directory
[02:25] <varsendagger> is there a crash report that i can read, it weems to do it everyday since i redid my system
[02:25] <steel> i thought... i could mount a subdirectory, and symlinks dont work in ftp
[02:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> varsendagger: check the output of dmesg
[02:25] <Sivik> Saveas: the command on that page doesn't work
[02:25] <myleftfoot> Sivik, you can use    gksudo "update-manager -d"  to upgrade to dapper
[02:25] <NickGarvey> steel: oohh.. thats why I couldn't cd over ftp to a sym link.. oh...
[02:25] <twinge> anyone had any luck getting xinerama working with a dell laptop?
[02:26] <astro9040> or the command sudo dpkg -i <.debfile>
[02:26] <steel> hehe
[02:26] <nicolas__> how do you call that gnome applet that reminds you of updates ?
[02:26] <Sivik> i get an error that says "Xlib: connction to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nicolas__: update-manager
[02:26] <Sivik> myleftfoot: i get that error and it stops
[02:27] <nickrud> Redbluefire, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[02:27] <Redbluefire> wget it?
[02:27] <brandon_> steel: you could just change your shared ftp folder fromt eh default, which i think is var/pub, to this fat folder you're mounting
[02:27] <zith> test
[02:27] <NickGarvey> ing123
[02:27] <sinnerg> test back :p
[02:28] <Sivik> myleftfoot: it says my system is up to date
[02:28] <steel> brandon_: I have other things i need to have in there and the fat is read only
[02:28] <NickGarvey> harvard.stanford.edu
[02:28] <NickGarvey> show off
[02:28] <Sivik> there it goes
[02:28] <Sivik> myleftfoot: nvm
[02:28] <steel> this is what the proftpd guide says to do,"Work arounds to allow access to other parts of the file system include exporting the part of the filesystem to be accessed from inside the chroot and mounting via NFS" how do i do that?
[02:28] <nicolas__> PuMpErNiCkLe: this is an application
[02:28] <nicolas__> it doesnt appear on gnomes applet list
[02:29] <Sivik> what kernel does dapper use?
[02:29] <linuxgeekery> Sivik: 2.6.15
[02:29] <Sivik> is the bcm43xx drivers in that on?
[02:29] <Sivik> one*
[02:29] <cafuego> yes
[02:29] <Sivik> kick
[02:29] <NickGarvey>  Sivik: ndiswrapper is what I use
[02:29] <steel> it also says "As of the 2.4.x Linux kernel tree it is possible to mount filesystems multiple times and to mount subdirectories of filesystems elsewhere on the filesystem."
[02:30] <Sivik> ndiswrapper is old and i could never get to work
[02:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nicolas__: It iconifies if there are any updates.
[02:30] <NickGarvey> Sivik: old?
[02:30] <niocin> mmk so i did pretty much everything the wine site told me, and it installed i think but it went from settiing up wine to ... and stopped
[02:30] <Sivik> the old way to do it
[02:30] <Redbluefire> nickrud, what's it's usage, how do I execute the script?
[02:30] <Sivik> since there are drivers now
[02:30] <NickGarvey> Sivik: if its old and it works why not do it?
[02:30] <NickGarvey> I still eat with my mouth but people have been doing that for thousands of years ;)
[02:30] <Sivik> Nick: i never can get it to work
[02:30] <brandon_> steel: maybe when you tried to mount the folder, you got the path wrong
[02:31] <NickGarvey> ah, okie, worked fine when I compiled the newest version from svn
[02:31] <steel> i hope so
[02:31] <steel> let me recheck
[02:31] <Sivik> well, then you must be a better man than me
[02:31] <niocin> NickGarvey, hey can you help me getting wine to work?
[02:31] <brandon_> steel: and remember, it's case sensitive
[02:31] <NickGarvey> niocin: mm I use suse, it was very easy for me, not sure how to get it to work for you
[02:31] <steel> yea
[02:31] <majd> hi
[02:31] <majd> how can i "2) run 'make'"
[02:32] <steel> i did it right...
[02:32] <niocin> can anyone help me get wine working?
[02:32] <Sivik> what wrong with it niocin?
[02:32] <Sivik> do you have it installed?
[02:32] <linuxgeekery> niocin: what's the problem?
[02:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> majd: If you have the 'build-essential' package installed, make sure you're in the right directory, you've run ./configure, and then just invoke 'make'.
[02:32] <steel> how do i check my kernal version?
[02:33] <Sivik> man /proc/version
[02:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> steel: uname -r
[02:33] <niocin> I think i got it installed, it sayd it finished downloading then it says Setting up wine (0.9.12~winehq1-1) ...
[02:33] <niocin>  and then goes back to niocin@jakin:
[02:33] <linuxgeekery> steel: uname -r
[02:33] <biovore> steel: uname -a
[02:33] <biovore> lolz
[02:33] <steel> heh
[02:33] <nickrud> Redbluefire , a sec.
[02:33] <Sivik> niocin: then type wine --help
[02:33] <Sivik> and see what you get
[02:33] <biovore> 1 question 4 valid different answers
[02:33] <Redbluefire> k
[02:33] <linuxgeekery> niocin: or winecfg - configure wine
[02:33] <Sivik> that works as well
[02:33] <brandon_> steel: uname -r
[02:33] <steel> heh thanks
[02:34] <niocin> linuxgeekery, okay that seemed to come up haha
[02:34] <nickrud> Redbluefire, I thought it was a simple 'paste the following file to the pastebin', but it's a bit better than that it seems
[02:34] <majd> grr
[02:34] <Redbluefire> lol
[02:34] <majd> i have a Logitech Quickcam Orbit
[02:34] <NickGarvey> steel: I think it might just be uname -r
[02:34] <majd> i read that it can work in linux
[02:34] <majd> but i can't get it working for the life of me
[02:34] <steel> im not... sure
[02:35] <varsendagger> PuMpErNiCkLe, hey i got the dmesg   output, what should i be looking for?
[02:35] <majd> http://kerneltrap.org/node/5402
[02:36] <niocin> linuxgeekery, if i have a other hard drive mounted, can i access a program to run off of that?
[02:36] <niocin> linuxgeekery, because i go to applications>add app and try and find it, and it wont let me
[02:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> varsendagger: Anything that looks like 'fatal error' or 'panic' or 'something really bad is happening and I don't know how to handle it'.  It could be anything, really.
[02:37] <niocin> linuxgeekery, or do i have to run the .exe off the disk and re-install it?
[02:37] <varsendagger> linux is so articulate
[02:38] <NickGarvey> varsendagger: expressing yourself easily or characterized by clear expressive language; "articulate speech"; "an articulate orator"; "articulate beings"
[02:38] <NickGarvey> varsendagger: so.. thats good?
[02:38] <niocin> Or, i an not be helped..
[02:38] <hou5ton> How do I set up a spam filter in Evolution?
[02:38] <NickGarvey> niocin: mm I don't totally understand your question..
[02:39] <varsendagger> i got an out of memory killed xorg
[02:39] <jerware> when i clean my cookies and web browser reminance, i still see past search results in any web pages text/search bar.  such as google.  how do i delete these too?
[02:39] <varsendagger> ^ that is bad
[02:39] <steel> anyone know how to to mount subdirectories of filesystems elsewhere on the filesystem?
[02:39] <niocin> NickGarvey, Well, i have wine installed, and i have a program that was installed on my mounted hd from windows, do i have to run the setup.exe off of the disk and re-install it, or can i run it off the other drive?
[02:39] <amphi> varsendagger: the curse of the OOMkiller ;)
[02:39] <NickGarvey> jerware: "saved form information" clear that
[02:40] <jerware> amphi:  isnt oomkiller Rawplayer?
[02:40] <NickGarvey> niocin: eh.. I don't know much about wine.. notihng about how to install stuff
[02:40] <amphi> jerware: ?
[02:40] <jerware> whats oomkiller?
[02:40] <niocin> NickGarvey, haha okay..
[02:40] <biovore> oom.. its moo backwards..
[02:40] <biovore> :-P
[02:40] <niocin> Anyone famillar with wine?
[02:40] <amphi> jerware: the kernel 'out of memory' process killer
[02:40] <biovore> hmm I drink wine..
[02:40] <varsendagger> NickGarvey, Hi my name is Varsendagger, but my superpower is STanting the obvious and My real name is captian obvious
[02:40] <amphi> !anyone
[02:40] <ubotu> a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[02:40] <NickGarvey> niocin: maybe #wine
[02:41] <varsendagger> oomkiller how do i fix it?
[02:41] <NickGarvey> varsendagger: was that an insult?
[02:41] <amphi> varsendagger: don't run out of memory ;) do you have swap enabled?
[02:41] <varsendagger> NickGarvey, No i Just state the obvious
[02:41] <hou5ton> How do I set up a spam filter in Evolution?
[02:41] <jerware> NickGarvey:  Thanx alot pal
[02:41] <NickGarvey> hou5ton: I'd look into spamassassin
[02:41] <varsendagger> only like 256
[02:41] <NickGarvey> jerware: :)
[02:41] <Jinkguns> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16855603835 <--- Bought this today. It works with linux. :D
[02:42] <hou5ton> NickGarvey:  It asks for the original Ubuntu install disk .... don't have it .... ??
[02:42] <NickGarvey> nice Jinkguns
[02:42] <jerware> now i can take my laptop into work, show presentations, with out revealing "BLOWJOBS GALORE/POOP PORN "
[02:42] <NickGarvey> oo just nice
[02:42] <jerware> NickGarvey ^
[02:42] <niocin> okay
[02:42] <NickGarvey> !tell hou5ton about aptcd
[02:42] <niocin> can anyone help me install fluxbox?
[02:42] <_jason> niocin: sudo aptitude install fluxbox
[02:42] <NickGarvey> jerware: thats.. good...
[02:42] <amphi> varsendagger: how much ram?
[02:42] <jerware> lol
[02:42] <RobyX> DO I type "sudo apt-get install PACKAGE.deb" to install a .deb from the desktop?
[02:42] <_jason> !deb
[02:42] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:42] <varsendagger> NickGarvey, Thou beslubbering reeling-ripe vassal!    that is an insult
[02:42] <RobyX> thanks.
[02:43] <varsendagger> like 384
[02:43] <varsendagger> amphi,
[02:43] <niocin> _jason, okay, now how do i run it
[02:43] <NickGarvey> varsendagger: eek take it easy man you are going to make me cry with insults like thta
[02:43] <NickGarvey> s/thta/that
[02:43] <amphi> varsendagger: you could make more swap, 512 or so
[02:43] <amphi> varsendagger: what ran you out of ram?
[02:43] <varsendagger> ok
[02:43] <varsendagger> xorg
[02:43] <majd> Why can't i copy-paste folders from my windows drive to my linux drive?
[02:43] <_jason> niocin: logout and at the login screen, press the 'sessions' button and choose fluxbox
[02:43] <niocin> okay
[02:44] <varsendagger> majd, !samba
[02:44] <majd> !samba
[02:44] <ubotu> methinks samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[02:44] <varsendagger> amphi, NickGarvey thanks
[02:44] <NickGarvey> any time?
[02:44] <RobyX> Jason, will that  "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb" install the file that is placed on my desktop?
[02:45] <Sivik> thanks for telling me how to upgrade my kernel all
[02:45] <_jason> RobyX: first you will have to change the current working directory to the Desktop, this command would do that: cd ~/Desktop
[02:45] <ranix> How do I run Enlightenment instead of Metacity on login but make no other changes to my GDM startup? (.Xsession hoses everything)
[02:45] <_jason> ubotu: tell RobyX about cli
[02:45] <Sivik> ranix: did you install entrance?
[02:45] <NickGarvey> !tell ranix about enlightenment
[02:45] <codecaine> when im playing flash on a webpage the sound it off from the video how can I fix that?
[02:45] <ranix> I have enlightenment
[02:45] <ranix> what is entrance, Sivik?
[02:45] <codecaine> I use firefox monzilla
[02:45] <Sivik> nvm, i'm wrong
[02:45] <NickGarvey> oh okie sorry
[02:45] <_jason> codecaine: are you using the default firefox in breezy?
[02:45] <amphi> varsendagger: do you run gnome?
[02:46] <codecaine> naw I upgraded to the newest firefox
[02:46] <Sivik> just set the session to default when it asks you if you want to join just this time or set as default
[02:46] <majd> varsendagger, do i access it normally after installing samba?
[02:46] <ranix> sivik, that will load up my normal session
[02:46] <ranix> Sivik, I want to replace metacity with enlightenment in the default session
[02:46] <nickrud> Redbluefire, just to let you know I'm still struggling, if you still need non X pastbinning
[02:46] <Sivik> then edit the .xsession file
[02:46] <Redbluefire> yea, still need it, thanks a ton :)
[02:46] <farous> hi all just fast c question what is := stand for
[02:46] <ranix> where?
[02:46] <_jason> codecaine: install alsa-oss and run firefox as 'aoss firefox'
[02:47] <codecaine> did that
[02:47] <nickrud> Redbluefire, I don't currently, but I can see it in my future :)
[02:47] <farous> codecaine: is it for mplayer plugin
[02:47] <codecaine> youtube
[02:48] <_jason> codecaine: did you close all instances of firefox and then run it through aoss?
[02:48] <codecaine> yes
[02:48] <codecaine> aoss is saved in the config file
[02:48] <Sivik> ranix: you may have to create the file, just read the readme for installing elightenment.  It will explain how to change the xsession file
[02:48] <myleftfoot> Thanks to All. I Love Dapper!!!
[02:48] <_jason> codecaine: no, you need to actually run it as 'aoss firefox' on a command line
[02:48] <Sivik> whats new in dapper?
[02:48] <_jason> codecaine: that config file only works with the firefox that comes from ubuntu afaik
[02:48] <codecaine> oh
[02:49] <codecaine> its a older firefox though has security holes
[02:49] <_jason> codecaine: really?  what are they?
[02:50] <hou5ton> I installed spamassasin and associated packages, but don't see it anywhere ..... how do I get it to interface with Evolution?
[02:50] <NickGarvey> hou5ton: eek no idea use google, I use kontact
[02:50] <Sivik> does that make sense ranix
[02:50] <nickrud> Redbluefire, well, I haven't figured out how to use the pastebin script, sorrry
[02:51] <Redbluefire> gah :P
[02:51] <nickrud> Redbluefire, ask the authority
[02:51] <Redbluefire> whossat?
[02:51] <codecaine> let me find the link
[02:51] <nickrud> Redbluefire, I got it from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[02:52] <Redbluefire> yea, I wgetted it and tried to get it working
[02:52] <iff> hi has anybody had their fonts change in xfce after ctrl-alt-backspace such as the menu and titlebar?
[02:52] <farous> codecaine: is it for plugin for mplayer or just for flash
[02:53] <abk> hey guys, I'm trying to get WPA working with wpa_supplicant, with the ipw2100 driver. when I run "sudo wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D ipw -w" I get a message "ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : Operation not supported
[02:53] <abk> " and then nothing. any ideas?
[02:53] <abk> my instructions are all off the WPAHowto wiki page
[02:53] <spoons> 9 minutes!
[02:54] <codecaine> http://www.pro-linux.de/security/5299
[02:54] <codecaine> for flash
[02:55] <farous> codecaine: than use _jason way you need aoss firefox
[02:55] <hou5ton> NickGarvey:  you running KDE in Ubuntu?
[02:55] <_jason> codecaine: that page states ``The problem can be corrected by upgrading the affected package toversion 1.0.8-0ubuntu4.10 (for Ubuntu 4.10), 1.0.8-0ubuntu5.04 (for buntu 5.04), or 1.0.8-0ubuntu5.10 (for Ubuntu 5.10).''
[02:55] <codecaine> did it from terminal the sound is still off
[02:55] <NickGarvey> hou5ton: nope, suse 10.0
[02:55] <abk> ack, ka-durr. mis-set the SSID in wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:56] <hou5ton> NickGarvey:  Now you got me REAL curious ... so ... you run SuSE and hang out here to help wannabe's like me?  :-)
[02:56] <_jason> codecaine: did you close all instances of firefox beforehand?
[02:56] <amphi> NickGarvey: debian here ;)
[02:57] <NickGarvey> hou5ton: if you want to put it that way.. I find theres a lot more newer linux users here and I like to help them get on their feet
[02:57] <farous> codecaine: first type killall firefox-bin
[02:57] <Sivik> thanks Nick
[02:57] <Sivik> by the way
[02:57] <NickGarvey> yup
[02:57] <niocin_> how do i change my resolution with ubuntu
[02:57] <Sivik> hey Nick: how do i get flash to work in a 64 bit version of FC or Suse
[02:58] <codecaine> yes
[02:58] <NickGarvey> Sivik: suse uses a 32 bit firefox, so get the 32 bit flash player
[02:58] <hollywoodb> iff: i believe your session is saved when you log out, if you ctrl+alt+backspace X, then your settings won't be preserved
[02:58] <farous> codecaine: than type /usr/bin/aoss /bin/sh /usr/bin/firefox
[02:58] <Sivik> ok
[02:58] <NickGarvey> Sivik: that easy
[02:58] <nickrud> !tell niocin about fixres
[02:58] <Sivik> that would explain why its not working
[02:58] <Sivik> cause i'm trying to download the 64 bit flash
[02:58] <NickGarvey> yup
[02:58] <Sivik> thanks
[02:58] <farruinn> Trying to build a kernel from the linux-source-2.6.12 package but can't even get to configuration: http://pastebin.com/682136
[02:58] <nickrud> !tell Seveas about heh
[02:58] <Sivik> cause the auto doesn't work
[02:58] <MHobbit> !fixres
[02:58] <ubotu> fixres is, like, Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:58] <_jason> codecaine: what else do you have playing sound?
[02:58] <ubuntulin> anyone know how to delete old kernels?
[02:58] <spoons> 5 minutes!
[02:59] <amphi> spoons: ?
[02:59] <codecaine> just the system
[02:59] <spoons> *Laughs*
[02:59] <codecaine> when u click on icons etc
[02:59] <hollywoodb> farruinn: you need gcc-3.4 (ubuntu ships with gcc-4.0), apt-get install gcc-3.4
[02:59] <farous> codecaine: did you set default multimedia to alsa
[02:59] <farous> anyway got to go now care codecaine  and care all
[03:00] <hollywoodb> farruinn: you can have both versions installed without problems
[03:00] <farruinn> hollywoodb: Thanks - wasn't mentioned in the wiki :)
[03:00] <spoons> upgrading my ubuntu from breezy to dapper. getting board watching my terminal screen. So I decied to tell everyone how much time was left before it was done.
[03:00] <ubuntulin> anyone know how to delete old kernels?
[03:00] <hou5ton> Apparantly Thunderbird has built-in spam filtering ...
[03:00] <NickGarvey> hou5ton: heh sounds good to me
[03:00] <amphi> ubuntulin: apt-get remove <old_kernel_package>
[03:00] <nickrud> ubuntulin, just run synaptic, and remove all the kernels you don't wnat
[03:00] <ubuntulin> nickrud: how do i find them in synaptic?
[03:01] <amphi> hou5ton: yeah, the baysian filters are said to work well by friends how use tbird
[03:01] <spoons> 2 minutes!
[03:02] <ubuntulin> nickrud: i'm not sure what to search for
[03:03] <nickrud> ubuntulin, simplest way is ctl-f , and linux-image -> all your installed kernels should show up there
[03:03] <codecaine> oh well I guess its not that important
[03:03] <niocin> okay does can anyone help me along with installing World of Warcraft?
[03:03] <NickGarvey> !wow
[03:03] <ubotu> it has been said that wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WoW and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[03:03] <niocin> haha that rules
[03:03] <NickGarvey> :)
[03:04] <steel> how do i access windows networks after i've installed samba?
[03:05] <ubuntulin> nickrud: is it okay to remove "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-18-386" it's affected by removing "linux-image-2.6.15-20-386"
[03:05] <spoons> aaaah my systems going bonkers now!
[03:05] <halazea> Hi folks.  I was hoping someone here could tell me how to rearrange the control, win, and alt keys for my system.
[03:06] <niocin> anyone know how to make terimal opaque?
[03:06] <hollywoodb> ubuntulin: what kernel are you running? (uname -a)
[03:06] <nickrud> ubuntulin, you're gonna want to remove all the restricted modules that match kernels you want to remove ; -21 is the latest (why are you asking here, that's a #ubuntu+1 question :)
[03:06] <niocin> nevermind
[03:06] <ubuntulin> hollywoodb: 2.6.15-21-386
[03:07] <Falstius> is there a windows manager that looks okay on a TV?  I don't want to use mythtv since there's no actual recording involved, just display.
[03:07] <codecaine> is it was faster the kernel ubuntu installs for u?
[03:07] <hollywoodb> ubuntulin: then you should only need linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-21-i386 unless you plan on downgrading kernels
[03:07] <ubuntulin> nickrud: didn't want to join +1 b/c removing kernels isn't *directly* related to dapper
[03:08] <ubuntulin> hollywoodb: nope :)
[03:08] <sifl_> i'm starting to learn how to use php and mysql, does anyone know what apps i should install to just mess around with till i learn it full on?
[03:09] <nickrud> ubuntulin, if you're running dapper, all questions belong there. Breezy is really different.
[03:09] <ubuntulin> nickrud: okay, i'll keep it in mind -- problem solved
[03:09] <ubuntulin> nickrud: thx for your help
[03:09] <spoons> I'm just upgrading to dapper, been running breezy for a few weeks. :)
[03:09] <Sivik> i'm upgrading to dapper too
[03:09] <Sivik> didn't know there was a newer one
[03:09] <ubuntulin> hollywoodb: thx, deleted all but linux-image...21..
[03:10] <spoons> I didn't relize this channel was more for dapper.
[03:10] <NickGarvey> its not
[03:10] <NickGarvey> !tell sifl_ about lamp
[03:10] <hollywoodb> ubuntulin: double-check you have the right linux-restriced-modules by 'apt-get install linux-restricted-modules'
[03:10] <ronivillab2> aw
[03:11] <ronivillab2> iloveyou
[03:11] <steel> i love you
[03:11] <ronivillab2> hi
[03:11] <steven_> is there a way to run windows and ubuntu at the same time
[03:11] <nickrud> shmoochie stuff has to have another channel :)
[03:11] <_jason> #ubuntu-love
[03:11] <ronivillab2> maybe
[03:11] <ubuntulin> hollywoodb: got another package "linux-restricted-modules" gives me "couldn't find package..."
[03:11] <nickrud> steven_, vmware
[03:12] <ubuntulin> ?
[03:12] <sifl_> thanks nick i definately got hella readin to do for a project i'm workin on....more sleepless nights
[03:12] <NickGarvey> sifl_: :) thats the fun of linx
[03:12] <ronivillab2> hi everybody
[03:12] <steven_> nickrud how do i get that
[03:12] <spoons> can ya get vmware with apt-get
[03:12] <ronivillab2> any one can help me this ubonto
[03:12] <ubuntulin> spoons: as far as i know you have to buy vmware
[03:12] <sifl_> linux and no doze....all i need in life
[03:12] <NickGarvey> ubuntulin: yes, everything cept vmplayer
[03:12] <nickrud> steven_, http://www.vmare.com/
[03:13] <ubuntulin> nickgarvey: what's vmplayer?
[03:13] <hollywoodb> ubuntulin: oops, linux-restricted-modules-i386
[03:13] <NickGarvey> !vmplayer
[03:13] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[03:13] <nickrud> vmware, vmware player, they all come from the same place
[03:13] <NickGarvey> ubuntulin: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
[03:13] <steven_> nickrud that wasn't anything
[03:13] <steven_> is there another link
[03:14] <NickGarvey> steven_: he forgot the w, its http://www.vmware.com
[03:14] <spoons> can you run windows in ubuntu with vmplayer?
[03:14] <ubuntulin> hollywoodb: i think it's "linux-restricted-modules-386" sans 'i'...anyway i got 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. -- that means i'm good to go right?
[03:14] <nickrud> NickGarvey, I swear I cut and pasted :)
[03:15] <TehUni> how can i get 2 monitors working in ubuntu? got a nvidia 6600gt with 2 monitors plugged in, but only 1 active.
[03:15] <codecaine> mplayer is the best player for linux right?
[03:15] <NickGarvey> codecaine: never use the word best ;)
[03:15] <lvraab> codecaine, VLC
[03:15] <j1p> codecaine, for what purposes?
[03:16] <ubuntulin> nickgarvey: interesting, i used to run ubuntu on vmware, but my computer didn't have enough ram
[03:16] <codecaine> to watch movies like divx wmv files etc
[03:16] <j1p> codecaine, try VLC, it works with a lot less hassle than mplayer
[03:16] <codecaine> only down fall you can't can't strech the movies to full screen :/
[03:16] <hollywoodb> ubuntulin: yep
[03:16] <codecaine> cool ok
[03:16] <amphi> codecaine: I prefer mplayer
[03:16] <niocin> how come i cant copy from my other hard drie
[03:16] <nickrud> spoons, there's this whole thing going on, slicing the processor between different operating systems. vmware is the granddaddy, xen is what edgy eft is supposed to have, and microsoft is claiming they'll have a working slicer. It's the most exciting thing I've heard of in the last ten years, that this is actually happening
[03:16] <NickGarvey> I like amarok
[03:17] <ubuntulin> hollywoodb: thx for your help, i'm going to restart
[03:17] <codecaine> VLC has alot of codec support?
[03:17] <GoDawgs> hey ya'll..
[03:17] <amphi> codecaine: they all use the same codec libs AFAIK
[03:17] <GoDawgs> wanna know how to add programs to the applications menu once their installed through synaptic
[03:18] <_jason> GoDawgs: applications > system tools > applications menu editor
[03:18] <j1p> codecaine, VLC supports almost all codecs out of the box, except for RealMedia i think
[03:18] <GoDawgs> _jason: ok... let me give that a shot... thanks
[03:18] <_jason> vlc in the repos will not play wmv9
[03:19] <GoDawgs> _jason: I don't have that open... even when I go into alacarte menu editor
[03:19] <_jason> GoDawgs: you don't have what open?
[03:20] <GoDawgs> I dont' have the applications menu editor
[03:20] <GoDawgs> don't
[03:20] <amphi> _jason: just say 'no' to evil proprietary codecs
[03:20] <_jason> GoDawgs: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:20] <GoDawgs> dapper
[03:20] <GoDawgs> didn't think this was a dapper specific question though
[03:21] <_jason> GoDawgs: well applications menu editor is alacarte
[03:21] <_jason> amphi: I would love to, just tell that to the content providers :/
[03:22] <GoDawgs> _jason: ok, then I'm confused... why aren't the programs I downloaded there?  could they be somewhere else?
[03:22] <ubuntulin> hollywoodb: good, thx
[03:22] <_jason> GoDawgs: what program in particular?  (not all programs get a menu item, although if it is a gui program it should and you should file a bug0
[03:22] <ubuntulin> can anyone explain to me what "memtest86+" is?
[03:22] <GoDawgs> _jason: it's a gmail notifier
[03:23] <christina_> i need help installing a hp web cam
[03:23] <GoDawgs> _jason: let me see what the specific name of it is
[03:23] <GoDawgs> _jason: I thought it was a panel insert though
[03:23] <RobyX> How do I access "universe repository"
[03:23] <_jason> GoDawgs: try 'killall gnome-panel' and then check your internet menu again
[03:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell RobyX about universe
[03:23] <GoDawgs> _jason: ok
[03:23] <christina_> can anyone help me?
[03:24] <spoons> I started upgrading to dapper about 30 min ago or so, should I have shut everything else off to do this? I obviously havn't, and I just thought of it realy. *Laughs*
[03:24] <GoDawgs> _jason: it's the mail watcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel
[03:24] <amphi> _jason: _you_ tell 'em, I don't come across wmvs
[03:24] <christina_> can someone help me ?
[03:24] <_jason> amphi: heh we must have different surphing habits ;)
[03:25] <GoDawgs> _jason: maybe that's my problem... it's for xfce4... what's xfce4?  is that another name for gnome?
[03:25] <amphi> _jason: so it would seem ;) I use w3m mostly
[03:25] <christina_> i want to install my web cam
[03:25] <_jason> GoDawgs: no it's a different desktop environment
[03:25] <christina_> my cd for it won't run
[03:25] <GoDawgs> _jason: oh... so it's not compatible with gnome?
[03:25] <_jason> GoDawgs: is the package, gmail-notify ?
[03:25] <christina_> is there something else i should do?
[03:26] <GoDawgs> _jason: no... it's mail watcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel
[03:26] <_jason> GoDawgs: ok, not sure about that then.  And I'm not familiar with xfce to tell you how to add a shortcut in the menu
[03:26] <GoDawgs> _jason: no problem... thanks for trying though...
[03:27] <christina_> can anyone talk me through hooking up my web cam?
[03:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell christina_ about repeat
[03:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell christina_ about support
[03:27] <amphi> GoDawgs: there's always xbiff ;)
[03:28] <GoDawgs> amphi: what's xbiff?
[03:28] <amphi> GoDawgs: man xbiff
[03:28] <GoDawgs> amphi: sorry... but I don't know what you're talking about... :(
[03:29] <amphi> GoDawgs: type man xbiff in a term
[03:29] <GoDawgs> amph
[03:29] <GoDawgs> ok
[03:29] <GoDawgs> amphi: sorry... ok... will do it now
[03:29] <amphi> GoDawgs: it might be more basic than you want
[03:30] <GoDawgs> amphi: actually, no... that's actually exactly what I want... but it says it's for X... what's X?
[03:31] <Installer36> My wireless card is Identified but for me to connect I must type sudo ifconfig eth1...is there a way around this?
[03:31] <amphi> GoDawgs: the x window system, on which your desktop is built; it'll work
[03:31] <Installer36> sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[03:31] <GoDawgs> amphi: oh okay... thanks for the tip and education! :)
[03:31] <nickrud> GoDawgs, the thing that writes to your screen is X, a lot of old stuff that worked under X was called x<stuff>
[03:32] <GoDawgs> nickrud: right on... thank you!!!
[03:32] <ubuntulnx> is there a way to remove memtest86+ ?
[03:32] <amphi> GoDawgs: there's also a system monitor called gkrellm which includes a mailbox watcher
[03:32] <nickrud> GoDawgs, try apt-cache search biff , you'll see some other stuff
[03:32] <hou5ton> Installer36:  I have found that Ubuntu will now allow two live connections at the same time .... do you have a cable plugged in too?
[03:33] <GoDawgs> amphi: nickrud:  let me try both of them... I can't believe how many great programs are written for Linux...
[03:33] <cpl-tnt900> hi !
[03:33] <the_guy1> Hi
[03:33] <cpl-tnt900> does any one know how can i load wireless network with dlink dwl650 +?
[03:33] <ubuntulnx> is there a way to remove memtest86+?
[03:34] <amphi> ubuntulnx: apt-get remove
[03:34] <Installer36> hou5ton...no but it says eth0 active in the networking so I deactivate it the type eth1 up
[03:34] <ubuntulnx> amphi: apt-get remove what?
[03:34] <nickrud> ubuntulin, memtest86+ ?
[03:34] <hou5ton> Installer36:  ya .. I have to do the same thing .... and then it will be fine as long as I don't change the type of connection.
[03:35] <cpl-tnt900> ubuntulnx : do u know hot how to load wireless d-link dwl650+ to ubunto  ?
[03:35] <Installer36> hou5ton ..when I did the install I was wired with a ethernet cable
[03:35] <ubuntulnx> yep memtest86+
[03:35] <johntramp> is there a xorgconfig like prog in ubuntu to get an xorg.conf like when you finish a fresh install?
[03:35] <cafuego> cpl-tnt900: Dapper has built-in support for it (acx)
[03:35] <cafuego> cpl-tnt900: In breezy, you need ndiswrapper.
[03:35] <cpl-tnt900> can u be more specific since im new to this envirement
[03:35] <hou5ton> Installer36:  right ... but if you plug that back in, AND have the wireless working as well, you get nothing.  Windows will let you do that ... it doesn't care ... but Ubuntu won't.
[03:36] <nickrud> ubuntulin, so, sudo apt-get remove memtest86+ (although I can't think of reason for doing that)
[03:36] <Munchkinguy> I'm having trouble setting up my printer in Dapper
[03:36] <cpl-tnt900> cafuego talk in privet...
[03:36] <cafuego> cpl-tnt900: The next Ubuntu version supports it out of the box. The version you run now needs  window driver and an ugly hack to make it work, since d-link aren't interested in providing a Linux driver.
[03:36] <hou5ton> Installer36:  so .... you have to tell Ubuntu which one you are using, AND ...if the other one is actually  hooked up and working, then deactivate it
[03:36] <nickrud> Munchkinguy, ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:36] <Installer36> hou5ton ..I just thought there was something I could put in to a file to automatically say eth1 up when the wireless card is in
[03:36] <hou5ton> Installer36:  there might be .... don't know about that
[03:37] <Installer36> hou5ton...thank you
[03:38] <hou5ton> Installer36:  My wireless is internal and on all the time ... but in some locations if I have the cable plugged in, I don't want it to use the wireless
[03:39] <Installer36> hou5ton...so you have to go to system,admin,networking to deactivate or can you do it threw the terminal
[03:39] <cpl-tnt900>  ndiswrapper ? i ran a search on google what exsacly should i be looking for if i wanna install a wireless lan ?
[03:40] <hou5ton> Installer36:  I right-click on the icon that is in the Gnome bar at the top of my screen ... and select properties
[03:40] <Installer36> thats quicker
[03:42] <fiendskull9> halayjalughia, just finished KynixChat! anyone wanna beta test it? (tell me if this shouldnt be in here)
[03:42] <Installer36> cpl-tnt900 ...IAM USING THAT CARD WITHOUT NDISWRAPPER
[03:42] <Installer36> sorry caps
[03:43] <goudkov> hi guys, in what package is the configure script located?
[03:44] <Sivik> which configure script are you referring to?
[03:44] <goudkov> as in configure make make install
[03:44] <hyphenated> goudkov: it's not part of a package. most programs have their own one as part of the source code
[03:45] <cpl-tnt900> installer36 : i see wireless lan i have dhcp but i cant get it to run why !?
[03:45] <amphi> goudkov: the configure script should be in the tarball
[03:45] <goudkov> hyphenated: oh yeah, found i. thanks.
[03:45] <johntramp> is there a way to generate a new xorg.conf?
[03:46] <hyphenated> johntramp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:46] <Installer36> cpl-tnt900...try in a terminal ...sudo ifconfig eth1 up...
[03:46] <ciplogic> nalioth: deleting and recreate the partitions fix the name :)
[03:46] <johntramp> hyphenated, thanks
[03:46] <nalioth> ciplogic: fix what?
[03:46] <the_guy1> were do you find firefox safe mode
[03:46] <ciplogic> the bad name in gnome
[03:47] <ciplogic> I used gparted to do so
[03:47] <hondadarrell> anyone know any good data cd burning apps for ubunut?
[03:47] <ciplogic> yes: gnometoaster
[03:47] <hyphenated> hondadarrell: I use k3b because it's pretty
[03:47] <fiendskull9> hondadarrell, gnomebaker, k3b
[03:47] <fiendskull9> i reccomend k3b
[03:47] <ciplogic> gnomebaker :P
[03:47] <nickrud> hondadarrell, Places->CD/DVD creator?
[03:48] <N2DIY> How can I install on a labtop, that won't boot from a cdrom, and doesn't have a floppy drive?
[03:48] <hondadarrell> I use gnome. does k3b work on gnome?
[03:48] <cpl-tnt900> installer36 : i get , no such device msg
[03:48] <Installer36> cpl-tnt900...what do you get with iwconfig
[03:48] <ciplogic> hondadarell: use gnomebacker else
[03:48] <hyphenated> hondadarrell: yes, or you could just use gnomebaker
[03:49] <the_guy1> there should be a boot from cd in your bios
[03:49] <ciplogic> hondadarell: k3b looks like Nero and gnomebaker looks as NeroExpress
[03:49] <AnsiC> i have installed binutils-static
[03:49] <N2DIY> no boot from cd option
[03:49] <AnsiC> but i do not see binutils installed into /usr/bin
[03:49] <the_guy1> no clue
[03:49] <cpl-tnt900> i get : lo no wireless extension , same for sit0 , in wlan0 i get iee802.11b essid : linksys etc...
[03:50] <nickrud> and nautilus looks like a place you just drag & drop to. For simple data disks, it's the easiest
[03:50] <AnsiC> root@hostname:/bin# whereis ar
[03:50] <AnsiC> ar:
[03:50] <Installer36> cpl-tnt900...was the card in at boot up
[03:50] <cpl-tnt900> yeah...
[03:50] <cpl-tnt900> should i try reboot ?
[03:50] <the_guy1> when all else fales reboot
[03:50] <cpl-tnt900> yeah the card was on the boot but i think it false...
[03:51] <cpl-tnt900> rebooting...
[03:52] <ZeroFrozen> hello
[03:52] <Installer36> cpl-tnt900..with "lspci"...do you have ... Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)
[03:53] <Pupbuntu> hi, i have ubuntu on my laptop.  every time i close the lid, the screensaver comes on.  that's fine.  the problem is, it demands a password before letting me back into the session, which is really redundant for me.  is there a way to turn that off?
[03:54] <goudkov> in what package can i find zlib? configure gives me "configure: error: You must have zlib installed!"?
[03:55] <sethk> goudkov, configuring what?
[03:55] <goudkov> sethk: mutella
[03:55] <sethk> goudkov, I think that's the devel for gzip
[03:56] <goudkov> sethk: do you know the name of the package? i can't find which one to install
[03:56] <goudkov> gzip-dev or something like that?
[03:56] <Iceman_> Anyone know a url where a person might get NeXTSTEP or OPENSTEP operating system ... ISO ?
[03:56] <sethk> goudkov, I'm not sure it's a package with that name, I think it's in one of the utility packages
[03:57] <sethk> goudkov, not much help, sorry, but I do recognize it
[03:57] <goudkov> sethk: ok, thanks
[03:58] <majd> Hi, i have a couple of mp3's that won't play
[03:58] <Xenguy> folks, I am trying for the first time to backup a dvd with the 'k3b' tool, and unfortunately I am getting the error 'Cannot copy encrypted DVDs'.  Is there a way around this, or do I need to find another tool besides 'k3b' ?
[03:59] <cpl-tnt900> installer36 : i rebooted now the card is off...
[04:00] <Installer36> lspci... Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)
[04:00] <Installer36> ...is that present
[04:00] <ZeroFrozen> i dwlded and installed the ubuntu 5.10 IA64 (for an athlon 64) and everything freeze while i boot (it seems random, sometimes while loading modules, sometimes when it sets the rtc, and other times it boots ok) where can i look for error message, or how do i suppress the graphical boot?
[04:00] <sethk> ZeroFrozen, try booting to run level 1
[04:00] <nickrud> Iceman_, gnustep is already available from ubuntu, try apt-cache search gnustep
[04:00] <sethk> ZeroFrozen, look in /var/log/messages
[04:00] <intelikey> Xenguy can't you dd if=/dev/your-dvd-reader of=image.file and then burn the file to disk  ?    haven't done that with dvd myself, i don't have a dvd drive.
[04:00] <sethk> do ls -ltr /var/log, see what else was written in /var/log
[04:01] <Installer36> cpl-tnt900...lspci.... Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)
[04:01] <Installer36> ...is my card
[04:01] <cpl-tnt900> myn is D-link DWL650+ with WRT54G router
[04:01] <dougiefresh> greetings, is there a security.ubuntu.org like ther eis for debian?
[04:01] <cpl-tnt900> ?
[04:02] <Xenguy> intelikey: not sure, but I'll add that to my list of ideas.  I would have thought that k3b would allow this somehow (it is very nice software in general)
[04:02] <Installer36> type lspci in term
[04:02] <ZeroFrozen> sethk, ok, i'm going to look
[04:02] <intelikey> dougiefresh yes there is security repos   for system updates.
[04:02] <dougiefresh> can you tell me what it is?
[04:02] <cpl-tnt900> ok i typed
[04:02] <cpl-tnt900> what should i look for ?
[04:02] <intelikey> Xenguy i agree.   clone copy maybe
[04:03] <Installer36> To make sure the cards are the same.... Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)
[04:03] <Xenguy> intelikey: hrm, worth a try
[04:03] <Sivik> when i upgrade from brezzy to dapper, will it mess up my GUI
[04:03] <cpl-tnt900> nope ! he writes network controller : Texas Instrument : Unknow Device 0400
[04:03] <majd> I get this when i try to unmount windows
[04:03] <majd> umount: /media/hda1: device is busy
[04:03] <intelikey> Sivik probably
[04:03] <majd> how can i stop it?
[04:03] <nickrud> Sivik, no, it'll just add some nicer stuff
[04:04] <Sivik> nickrud: k
[04:04] <nickrud> intelikey, eye of the viewer :)
[04:04] <hyphenated> majd: uh.. whafor? that's probably your root partition
[04:04] <cpl-tnt900> the card is PCMCIA installer46 @
[04:04] <cpl-tnt900> *36
[04:04] <intelikey> nickrud well most people call it "messed up" when they have to reconfigure things
[04:04] <N2DIY> how can I play DVDs, I removed Totem-gstreamer, installed Totem-xine and it complained about not having libdvdcss, I installed that, and it is still complaining about it?
[04:04] <Installer36> mine is a Dlink DWL650 ...so they have different chipset....you will probably need the ndiswrapper...sorry.
[04:05] <cpl-tnt900> can u explain how do i do this ?
[04:05] <majd> hyphenated, it's windows
[04:05] <majd> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[04:05] <majd> this won't run
[04:05] <majd> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[04:05] <majd> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /media/hda1
[04:05] <Installer36> No I bought cards till one worked..lol...Iam new to this..
[04:05] <hyphenated> majd: ah. cd /, then run it again
[04:06] <intelikey> majd close everything that is accessint the mount   then umount it    man fuser
[04:06] <nickrud> majd, sudo umount /dev/hda1 , then run that mount command again
[04:06] <Installer36> Someone here will be able to help
[04:06] <ajayc> hi guys!!!
[04:07] <nickrud> sorry hyphenated didn't realize you were on it
[04:07] <ajayc> ubuntu install cd wont detect my laptops cdrom any ideas?
[04:07] <Diablitux> Hello!!! I don't speak in english :( my question is about an error in mysql-admin. I do clic in "user administration" and the windows it's freezed
[04:07] <nickrud> ajayc, buy a new laptop /runs
[04:07] <Diablitux> help me please!!!
[04:08] <nickrud> Diablitux, language?
[04:08] <Diablitux> I don't add usser in mysql
[04:08] <dougiefresh> 5.10 is breezy correct?
[04:08] <cpl-tnt900> does any one know how to run ndiswapper ?
[04:08] <Diablitux> spanish
[04:08] <N2DIY> ajayc, my laptop won't boot from the cd, I'm trying to figure out where the install file is, no joy yet.
[04:08] <nickrud> !es
[04:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:08] <Diablitux> in dapper beta
[04:08] <ajayc> nickrud, well why dont u give me one?
[04:08] <nickrud> ajayc, soon as I get mine, and the next, it's in the mail :)
[04:08] <ajayc> N2DIY, though 4.10 boots damn fine
[04:09] <ajayc> is 4.10 good?
[04:09] <N2DIY> ajayc, hmm, I have 5.10, and it is my first time playing with Ubuntu. I managed to get FC3 on the laptop.
[04:09] <Diablitux> help me please!!!
[04:10] <steve_laptop> Diablitux: what is it
[04:10] <_jason> Diablitux: type this to get help in spanish: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:10] <cpl-tnt900> installer36 now he writes Network Controller: Texas Instruments ACX 100 22MBps Wireless Interface
[04:10] <intelikey> Diablitux> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.    si  /join #edubuntu-es
[04:10] <Diablitux> I have type in this channel, but no request :(
[04:10] <nickrud> ajayc, seriously though, 4.10 (warty) install boots, but the 5.10 (breezy) doesn't?
[04:11] <ajayc> yes nickrud
[04:11] <cpl-tnt900> how do i activate wireless lan !?
[04:11] <Installer36> cpl-tnt900 ...if you get no wireless with the command..iwconfig...it is beyond me
[04:11] <steve_laptop> Diablitux: /join #xxxxx  will work
[04:11] <nickrud> ajayc, are you sure you have a good iso? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IsoVerifyHowto will walk you through that
[04:12] <cpl-tnt900> ok no wireless in what !?
[04:12] <cpl-tnt900> in wlan !?
[04:12] <majd> Totem returns this error: This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available.
[04:12] <majd> where's the problem?
[04:12] <cpl-tnt900> he writes The interface wlan0 is active : WIRELESS CONNECTION
[04:12] <dager> cpl-tnt900: does running "iwconfig" show any detected wirelessness?
[04:12] <cpl-tnt900> its just i cant get it to surf
[04:12] <intelikey> majd totem not configured to use  esd ?
[04:13] <N2DIY> what version of totem, gstreamer? Totem-xine is recommended.
[04:13] <cpl-tnt900> lo shows no wireless and sir0 shows no wireless but lan0 shows wireless
[04:13] <intelikey> !vlc
[04:13] <ubotu> I heard vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[04:13] <majd> intelikey, what's esd?
[04:13] <toMte83a> is it possible to c how much one process takes in cpu  (%) Like in windows Xp when u hit ctrl+alt+del ??? would be intresting
[04:13] <intelikey> !esd
[04:13] <cpl-tnt900> installer 36 :lo shows no wireless and sir0 shows no wireless but lan0 shows wireless
[04:14] <dager> cpl-tnt900: make sure you set up dhcp on lan0 if it's required, and all relevant passkeys, then ifconfig your wireless connection up
[04:14] <nickrud> Tom39Away, top in a terminal
[04:14] <cpl-tnt900> dager : got no relevet passkey all open on the router...
[04:14] <dager> cpl-tnt900: do "ifconfig lan0 up"
[04:14] <cpl-tnt900> dhcp is on auto ... should i manual it ?
[04:15] <dager> cpl-tnt900: see if that works.. if not, do "dhcpcd lan0" or whatever the command is
[04:15] <N2DIY> How can I manually start the install off of the CD?
[04:16] <cpl-tnt900> nope not working
[04:16] <cpl-tnt900> and im new i dunno the commands i try going to system >> NETWORKING and set it there ?
[04:16] <majd> is there a way to change the options of my hda1 mount so that i can copy files from it to my desktop? hda1 is my windows mount
[04:17] <dager> cpl-tnt900: go for it, normally dhcp is the extent of my problems, but i'd imagine an interface is suitable for solving such problems
[04:17] <intelikey> majd sure.
[04:17] <intelikey> !ntfs
[04:17] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:17] <ajay_> back
[04:17] <ajay_> so what to do?
[04:17] <cpl-tnt900> dager : so what should i do ? it recognize the wireless network i pressed activate and its activated...
[04:18] <dager> cpl-tnt900: try and get online with it, i guess
[04:18] <N2DIY> ajay, where you ajayc?
[04:18] <cpl-tnt900> got online and nothing ...
[04:18] <intelikey> majd basicly mount it fmask=2 umask=2  iirc
[04:18] <ajay_> N2DIY, s
[04:18] <N2DIY> s?
[04:19] <majd> intelikey, so "/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,fmask=2 umask=2        0       0"
[04:19] <toMte83a> hmm ... try again...  anyone who know if its possible to c the CPU % for all running processes anywhere?
[04:19] <majd> in my fstab file?
[04:20] <intelikey> comma not space between but yeah majd
[04:20] <majd> toMte83a, top
[04:20] <csixty4> toMte83a: top, then shift-P to sort by % CPU
[04:20] <N2DIY> toMte83a, run top in a terminal.
[04:20] <ajay_> yes
[04:20] <ajay_> N2DIY, what do i do?
[04:20] <majd> intelikey, would i need to restart the computer?
[04:20] <intelikey> xtop ?
[04:21] <ajay_> upgrade from 4.10?
[04:21] <intelikey> majd no.  just umount and mount the drive.
[04:21] <twysted> is there a good FAQ on setting up a mailserver on ubuntu
[04:21] <intelikey> this is not micro-reboot_windows....
[04:21] <N2DIY> ajay_, we need to find the file that starts the install, I've looked and can't find it, thought someone here would know?
[04:21] <majd> intelikey, but see, the problem is i can't unmount windows.....it says it's busy
[04:22] <majd> i tried what you suggested earlier
[04:22] <toMte83a> majd csixty4 N2DIY : Cool, thanks... =)
[04:22] <ajay_> N2DIY, nobody here know that?
[04:22] <twysted> majd type cd / and try unmounting it if ANYTHING is using ANYTHING on that drive itll show as busy, even if its just a open window
[04:22] <intelikey> majd like i said use  fuser and find what is accessing it, kill it.  then umount.   man fuser
[04:22] <ZeroFrozen> majd, try "lsof | grep /media/windows" to see what's making it busy
[04:22] <N2DIY> ajay_, which file on the CD will start the install.
[04:22] <ajay_> N2DIY, dunno
[04:23] <Installer36> cpl-tnt900 what do you mean got online and nothing
[04:23] <ajay_> N2DIY, its not workin on ur lappy too
[04:24] <majd> ok
[04:24] <majd> i'll try
[04:24] <N2DIY> ajay_, roger my bios won't boot from the CD.
[04:24] <intelikey> N2DIY the init[rd,ramfs] .img  in  the dir with the kernel that it boots
[04:25] <N2DIY> intelikey, any idea what dir. that's in?
[04:25] <ajay_> well N2DIY in my case it boots from cd and after selecting language it says cdrom not found select manually
[04:25] <intelikey> boot maybe ?
[04:25] <warysnay> hello
[04:25] <intelikey> i'll look    give me a sec N2DIY
[04:25] <warysnay> howdy?
[04:26] <warysnay> dominicans here?
[04:26] <N2DIY> intelikey, standing buy.
[04:26] <ajay_> N2DIY, atleast tell me how do u upgrade 4.10?
[04:26] <cpl-tnt900> gn all try again tommorow ..
[04:26] <_jason> !upgradehoary
[04:27] <ubotu> _jason: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:27] <swan> does anyone how to fix this apt-get error:        The following has unmet dependencies:  lib32gcc1: depends: gcc-4.0-base (=4.0.3-1ubuntu4) but have 4.0.3-1ubuntu5??
[04:27] <ajay_> well what size it is?
[04:27] <GigaClon> i think im missing man pages
[04:27] <_jason> !upgrade2hoary
[04:27] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _jason
[04:27] <N2DIY> ajay_, I didn't it is a FC3 box, I had to run rawwrite and a bunch of other stuff to get it installed, took me three days.
[04:27] <_jason> !upgrade2hoary
[04:28] <GigaClon> !hoary
[04:28] <intelikey> N2DIY look in isolinux/isolinux.cfg    &   install/initrd.img
[04:28] <ubotu> hoary is, like, a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[04:28] <ajay_> _jason, what is the upgrade size?
[04:28] <_jason> ajay_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[04:28] <intelikey> errr  not .img  .gz
[04:28] <N2DIY> intelikey, will do, thanks, copy that ajay_?
[04:28] <jmg> ubotu: he did?
[04:28] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jmg
[04:28] <jmg> _jason: dont you mean upgrade2breezy? thats the latest stable...
[04:28] <GigaClon> ubotu is a bot
[04:28] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GigaClon
[04:28] <CSMan> hello
[04:29] <_jason> jmg: well he has 4.10 now so he has to upgrade to hary first
[04:29] <CSMan> i'm trying to mount a samba share that has filenames in korean
[04:29] <_jason> hoary
[04:29] <CSMan> no luck so far
[04:29] <jmg> ah
[04:29] <jmg> 4.10 eek
[04:29] <GigaClon> im missing the man page to mount
[04:29] <intelikey> back in a few.
[04:29] <jmg> what release was 4.10?
[04:29] <twysted> _jason you should be able to upgrade straight to breezy
[04:29] <jmg> twysted: no
[04:29] <blind> GigaClon, "man mount" doesn't do anything for you?
[04:29] <_jason> jmg: warty warthog
[04:30] <twysted> ive done it before =S
[04:30] <jmg> twysted: upgrades are only supported to the next release
[04:30] <GigaClon> mount --help say to do man 8 mount
[04:30] <_jason> twysted: yes, it's safer though
[04:30] <jmg> twysted: it might work but not safe as jason says
[04:30] <swan> does anyone how to fix this apt-get error:        The following has unmet dependencies:  lib32gcc1: depends: gcc-4.0-base (=4.0.3-1ubuntu4) but have 4.0.3-1ubuntu5??
[04:30] <ajay_> well i gotta do that cos the damn 5.10 install cd says it cant find the cdrom
[04:30] <_jason> swan: are you on dapper?
[04:30] <GigaClon> blind, that doesn't work
[04:30] <swan> _jason: yeah
[04:30] <jmg> _jason: simply change from warty to hoary in sources.list, then:
[04:30] <_jason> swan: please use #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[04:31] <blind> what doesn't work, GigaClon ? "man mount" gives me the manual page...
[04:31] <jmg> _jason: apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[04:31] <GigaClon> and when I follow the undocumented directions it can't find that either
[04:31] <GigaClon> blind, man mount
[04:31] <Sivik> anyone here use the bcm43xx wireless drivers?
[04:31] <ajay_> well please help me guys i want to sort this damn thing out today itself
[04:32] <cafuego> Sivik: lots of people do. just ask your question.
[04:32] <_jason> ajay_: what are you trying to do?
[04:32] <Sivik> do the firmware that comes with dipper work?
[04:32] <blind> lol GigaClon I just did a man mount > mount ... so i have it in a text file if you'd like me to give it to you :P
[04:32] <GigaClon> well you know how i can fix it
[04:32] <blind> I don't.
[04:32] <ajay_> _jason, well see i am not on ubuntu , 5.10 cd wont recognize my cdrom and i can install 4.10
[04:32] <cafuego> Sivik: Yes
[04:33] <cafuego> Sivik: Well, no firmware comes with dapper, but the one referenced on the wiki works.
[04:33] <_jason> ajay_: have you tried a different cd? verified the cd works on another computer?
[04:33] <bintut> hello all...
[04:33] <csixty4_> Sivik: What wireless card are you using?
[04:34] <Sivik> bcm4318 AirForce ver 02
[04:34] <ajay_> yes _jason
[04:34] <bintut> i'm using a laptop here right now.. was it the cpufreqd that automatically set my cpu half of its mhz when unused?
[04:34] <GigaClon> ajay_, you can try an upgrade from warty to brezzy but its not recommened
[04:34] <GigaClon> ajay_, just replace hoary with breezy in those directions
[04:34] <_jason> ajay_: weird, just do warty > hoary upgrade and then hoary > breezy by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes and then http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.
[04:34] <ajay_> well what do i do then
[04:35] <Sivik> csixty4?
[04:35] <doms> were i can find my install package repo
[04:35] <csixty4_> Sivik: according to the bcm43xx-dev mailing list, 4318 support is broken (https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2006-March/001555.html)
[04:35] <doms> like a cache
[04:35] <doms> were is the exact directory of that
[04:36] <Coir> Upon booting, Ubuntu shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is
[04:36] <csixty4_> I was up all night trying to get my 4311 working, and ran across that message
[04:36] <cafuego> Sivik: Yes, I've only tested on bcm4306 hardware, can't help you with anything else.
[04:36] <Coir> err...
[04:36] <Sivik> i understand thats its broken, but i have it working in redhat but was wondering if the firmware is already install, if it worked
[04:36] <GigaClon> can anyone help me with my missing man pages
[04:36] <GigaClon> I don't seem to have any at all
[04:36] <Coir> Upon booting, Ubuntu shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 byt
[04:36] <Coir> es, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFD
[04:36] <Coir> ISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is
[04:36] <Coir> eeps
[04:36] <_jason> !paste
[04:36] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:36] <Coir> my apologies for that.
[04:37] <nickrud> GigaClon, man man shows nothing?
[04:37] <GigaClon> yes
[04:37] <GigaClon> No manual entry for man
[04:38] <GigaClon> See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.
[04:38] <GigaClon> that doesn't exist either
[04:38] <blind> weird.
[04:38] <_nano_> anyone with a radeon7500 graphics card here?
[04:38] <doms> were i can locate my package cache in my file directory
[04:38] <Coir> Can someone help me with this error I am encountering upon boot of Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12910
[04:38] <doms> were i can locate my package cache in my file directory
[04:38] <Sivik> csixty: i understand that its broken, but i was wondering if i really needed to reinstall the firmware if its already installed in dapper
[04:38] <doms> were i can locate my package cache in my file directory
[04:38] <nickrud> is manpages installed? that is, dpkg -l manpages shows ii
[04:39] <ajay_> HELP MEE
[04:39] <nickrud> doms, /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:39] <doms> thanks
[04:39] <GigaClon> what ajay_ ?
[04:39] <Sivik> what is the issue there ajay?
[04:39] <_jason> ajay_: what is the problem?
[04:39] <ajay_> the issue is i cant get UBUNTU working on my acer laptop
[04:39] <Sivik> what part of it can't you get working?
[04:39] <_jason> ajay_: is this different than your upgrading issue?
[04:40] <Sivik> is it a xorg issues?
[04:40] <twysted> is there a good FAQ on setting up a mailserver on ubuntu ? anyone?
[04:40] <intelikey> GigaClon mandb ?
[04:40] <codecaine> im try to code in c++ but it says no such file as stdio.h
[04:40] <GigaClon> !build
[04:40] <ubotu> If you want to build software, you need the build-essential package to start with
[04:41] <Coir> v_v
[04:41] <intelikey> codecaine !b-e
[04:41] <_jason> codecaine: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[04:41] <nickrud> twysted, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postifx
[04:41] <codecaine> ty
[04:41] <GigaClon> intelikey, mandb does not show up in Synaptic
[04:42] <Milk_> anyone here have experiance with joysticks in cedega.. no one is answering over there
[04:42] <_nano_> Hi..my installation doesn't seem to have 3d support ...my xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12911 .. please help me out here :(
[04:42] <Coir> How is aptitude install dif. from apt-get install? Does it pop-up a gui or something?
[04:42] <_nano_> my tuxcart doesn't move :|
[04:43] <Sivik> what video card nano
[04:43] <_nano_> radeon 7500
[04:43] <_nano_> i searched my wits out on google...
[04:43] <_nano_> all they say is that ati has no support for cards below radeo 9000 :|
[04:43] <nickrud> Coir, aptitude keeps track of packages that were installed in support of packages you requested; if the package you requested is removed, aptitude will remove the support packages. apt-get will not.
[04:43] <_jason> Coir: aptitude will remember what dependencies got install along with a package
[04:43] <Sivik> can't hep you nano, i still having problems getting my ati to work
[04:43] <Coir> ooo
[04:43] <RobyX> My friend wants to know why LInux is better then MS, is there like a list of reasons somewhere?
[04:43] <_nano_> Sivik, what's your FPS?
[04:43] <codecaine> im using anjuta ide is there any others recommended?
[04:44] <SimplyFlower> hello
[04:44] <_nano_> Sivik, what kinda card do you have?
[04:44] <Sivik> radeon xpress 200 m
[04:44] <_jason> RobyX: for some MS may be better, it depends on the individual
[04:44] <Sivik> i can't even get it to work with the ati drivers in it
[04:44] <_nano_> Sivik, and FPS? could you play tuxcart? :P
[04:44] <nickrud> RobyX, there are all sorts of comparisons on the net, some show better one way or another, depending on need. But, by definition, free is better :)
[04:45] <Coir> Can someone help me with this error I am encountering upon boot of Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12910
[04:45] <Sivik> no, my GUI doesn't work with the ati stuff in it
[04:45] <roe> !mp3
[04:45] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:45] <_nano_> Sivik, that's sad :|
[04:46] <nickrud> Coir, how are you booting ubuntu, I've never seen a dosfsck
[04:46] <Coir> I was using GRUB
[04:46] <Sivik> i installed via the flglx install
[04:46] <Sivik> apt-get flglx or whatever it is
[04:46] <Coir> But, I had my /home setup on a different drive from my /
[04:46] <Coir> So do you think that might make it a bit weird?
[04:46] <_nano_> Sivik, yeah from what i gathered flglx doesn't support my card atleast
[04:46] <nickrud> Coir, did you try installing ubuntu onto a fat32?
[04:46] <Coir> No.
[04:46] <nickrud> or your home on a fat32?
[04:46] <Coir> nope
[04:46] <Sivik> which radeon is it
[04:46] <Coir> ext3 =P
[04:47] <_nano_> Sivik, radeon 7500
[04:47] <Sivik> its too old
[04:47] <nickrud> Coir, so, that can't be the whole error :)
[04:47] <Sivik> you have to have the 9200 first
[04:47] <Coir> I have a fat32 partition..
[04:47] <Coir> but it's just mounted as media
[04:47] <_nano_> Sivik, I know :( ...it's a laptop...replacing graphics card is a pain :|
[04:47] <Sivik> not really
[04:47] <Sivik> i replaced a one in  dell 7600 yesterday
[04:47] <GigaClon> intelikey, i can't find "mandb" in the d-pkg list or synaptic
[04:47] <_nano_> Sivik, in case i go for replacement...which one would you recommend?
[04:48] <not> how can you alter resolution if a friend of yours skipped the instellation step involving which resolutions you can have?
[04:48] <Sivik> go nvidia if you can
[04:48] <_jason> GigaClon: man-db
[04:48] <intelikey> Coir your fstab specify that vfat partition  to be checked at boot ?    also of note.   the file XFDISC1.I00 should probably be rm'd
[04:48] <_nano_> Sivik, thanks for the info...i'll see if I can afford a replacement
[04:48] <Sivik> yw
[04:48] <Coir> intelikey, well, the system wouldn't boot...
[04:49] <GigaClon> its installed, reinstalling....
[04:49] <SimplyFlower> can somebody please help me... how do i get ubuntu to recognize my ethernet connection?
[04:49] <intelikey> GigaClon which release are you using ?  dapper ?
[04:49] <sybariten> anyone here running lighttpd ?
[04:49] <GigaClon> breezy
[04:49] <intelikey> !info mandb breezy
[04:50] <GigaClon> no dice
[04:50] <_jason> !info man-db
[04:50] <ubotu> man-db: (The on-line manual pager), section doc, is standard. Version: 2.4.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 579 kB, Installed size: 1628 kB
[04:50] <nickrud> GigaClon, you probably have problems in your /etc/apt/sources.list if man-db isn't shown in dpkg -l
[04:50] <GigaClon> its there
[04:50] <intelikey> GigaClon there ya go  ^
[04:50] <GigaClon> and installed
[04:50] <GigaClon> but it still doesn't work
[04:50] <_jason> GigaClon: ls /usr/share/man/man1/man.1.gz
[04:51] <sybariten> someone on the forum has written a howto on installing lighttpd. He says it more or less "needs" dapper. I have that other install, that came before. Are there any chances for me ?
[04:51] <GigaClon> _jason,  its there
[04:51] <sybariten> if i do apt-cache search lighthttpd i get nil
[04:51] <_jason> GigaClon: and man man says it can't find the file?
[04:51] <GigaClon> but man man is not working
[04:52] <nickrud> ls /usr/bin/man?
[04:52] <GigaClon> when i type cd /usr/bin/man
[04:52] <GigaClon> it don't exist
[04:52] <eggzeck> wtf, my monitor just went "poff (off)" then "poof on"! And the color is getting messed up
[04:52] <rob138> is there anyway to get to my computer that is on my schools network that is not pingable from the internet?
[04:52] <_jason> GigaClon: it's a file, don't cd it
[04:53] <nickrud> GigaClon, man is a file, you can't cd to it. but ls /usr/bin/man should give you something
[04:53] <N2DIY> intelikey, there is no /install/initrd.img on the cd, and /isolinux/isolinux.cfg just display the file contents.
[04:53] <_jason> GigaClon: while you are there, get the output for 'manpath' too
[04:53] <GigaClon> ahh
[04:53] <nickrud> man is so basic, I think I've forgotten nearly all of it
[04:53] <GigaClon> it pointing in my home dir
[04:54] <_jason> GigaClon: what is?
[04:54] <GigaClon> manpath
[04:54] <GigaClon> manpath: warning: $MANPATH set, ignoring /etc/manpath.config
[04:54] <GigaClon> /home/gigaclon/.local/share/man
[04:54] <nickrud> GigaByte_, whoa, there you are
[04:54] <sybariten> can i somehow check how big an apache install witll be, with apt ?
[04:54] <_jason> GigaClon: clear MANPATH I guess
[04:55] <nickrud> GigaClon, echo $MANPATH
[04:55] <rukuartic> Hehe... curious thing just happened. X crashed, but restarted on tty8 instead of tty7
[04:55] <GigaClon> /home/gigaclon/.local/share/man
[04:55] <rukuartic> And now tty7 is just a black box with a cursor, not even a bash prompt. Anyone have ideas?
[04:55] <nickrud> hm, what's a good find for MANPATH
[04:56] <rukuartic> nickrud: whereis?
[04:56] <_jason> nickrud: can't we just do export MANPATH=     ?
[04:56] <nickrud> rukuartic, but why was GigaClon 's different from the default?
[04:56] <_jason> GigaClon: if you start a new shell does man still not work?
[04:56] <rukuartic> I dunno, I dun like him. He's got shifty eyes. Oh wait I mean, no clue nickrud
[04:57] <nickrud> rukuartic, heh. Been here, done this :)
[04:57] <GigaClon> yeah
[04:57] <rukuartic> nickrud: man man? maybe?
[04:57] <rukuartic> nickrud: Or can you not access that... lol...
[04:57] <nickrud> rukuartic, been there, done that :)
[04:57] <rob138> is there anyway to get to my computer that is on my schools network that is not pingable from the internet?
[04:58] <N2DIY> rob138, ssh.
[04:58] <_jason> GigaClon: what kind of stuff were you doing before this happened?
[04:58] <nickrud> I've gone five years without learning find, I'm hoping someone will come up with a find/grep that locates all MANPATH defs
[04:58] <GigaClon> I have never been able to get man pages
[04:58] <GigaClon> that I can recall
[04:58] <intelikey> !info mtr-tiny
[04:58] <ubotu> mtr-tiny: (Full screen ncurses traceroute tool), section net, is standard. Version: 0.69-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 100 kB
[04:58] <rukuartic> rob138: Yeah, I use ssh too. Great thing. :D "sudo apt-get install openssh-client open-sshserver"
[04:59] <rukuartic> Anyone have any clues about my previous mentioned problem?
[04:59] <_jason> GigaClon: well we have to figure out what is setting MANPATH... I would start grepping files :)
[05:00] <nickrud> rukuartic, /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[05:00] <_jason> GigaClon: grep MANPATH ~/.*, might be worth a try
[05:00] <rukuartic> nickrud: Well thats the odd thing... Xorg runs on f8 but not f7 now.
[05:00] <rob138> rukartic, N2DIY, thats what i use, i think its awesome, but everytime connection times out
[05:00] <chip42> my harddrive goes into sleep mode far too often. how do you set how many ms before it spins down? seems like it is always spinning up every few seconds :\
[05:00] <rukuartic> nickrud: f7 is just a blank screen. tried "startx" etc, its just a big box to type stuff and hit enter
[05:00] <GigaClon> grep: /home/gigaclon/.gnome-system-monitor.gigaclon: No such device or address
[05:00] <rob138> like my computer isn't visable
[05:01] <GigaClon> thats what I got
[05:01] <intelikey>             debfoster  is kewl   :)
[05:01] <rukuartic> rob138: What types of connections are you on?
[05:01] <nickrud> rukuartic, the only reason X would start on 8 (that I know of) is X is already active on 7, and you've started another instance
[05:01] <rob138> the computer i am trying to connect to is on a dorm lan, and it's ip adress btw is 147.222.178.28 to see if you can ping/connect to it
[05:01] <juztin> when i upgrade to dapper, will i lose my current setup and have to start all over again (my menus, desktop, home dir, etc)?
[05:01] <rob138> rukartic,
[05:01] <N2DIY> rob138, sounds like the server ip address changed on you?
[05:02] <_jason> GigaClon: see if it happens with a new user
[05:02] <SimplyFlower> please help... can't connect to the internet with ubuntu
[05:02] <NickGarvey> would cd .. be going up a directory or going down a directory?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> up
[05:02] <rob138> N2DIY, that is my IP adress for sure
[05:02] <nickrud> up
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> bash 101 :P
[05:02] <rukuartic> nickrud: Heh... it actually didn't. Its weird.
[05:03] <NickGarvey> thank you
[05:03] <juztin> does anyone know if, when i upgrade to dapper, i will lose my current setup and have to start all over again (my menus, desktop, home dir, etc)?
[05:03] <rukuartic> rob138: So you're connecting on an intranet?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> the idea of going 'down' implies you are changing to a given dir.. not the generic 'parent'
[05:03] <rukuartic> rob138: Or an internet?
[05:03] <NickGarvey> thats what I thought but someone said something that didn't make sense ;)
[05:03] <N2DIY> SimplyFlower, what are you trying to connect with, evolution? Find the work online icon, and click that.
[05:03] <_jason> juztin: should keep them
[05:03] <juztin> sweet
[05:03] <juztin> cuz i just spent two hours writing my fluxbox menu :P
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> juztin,  i often keep  home on a seperate partition. to make it easier.
[05:03] <SimplyFlower> unbuntu doesn't recognize my ethernet connection at all
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> juztin,  backup the files :)
[05:03] <juztin> ok :)
[05:04] <nickrud> rukuartic, I'd really look into seeing if there's an active X you're missing
[05:04] <sybariten> i have a server version of ubuntu, the breezy i think ..... is it possible to "upgrade" it to dapper ? is it a big project ?
[05:04] <juztin> thx Dr_Willis, _jason
[05:04] <intelikey> nickrud  <nickrud> rukuartic, the only reason X would start on 8 (that I know of) is X is already active on 7, and you've started another instance <--- actually  x starts on the first avalable tty  thus if you only have one login tty setup and haven't opened any other ttys startx will start on tty2   conversly wise   if you had 30 ttys open and did startx it would start on tty31
[05:04] <N2DIY> SimplyFlower, a that is a hardware issue, I'm on dialup, so I can't help you.
[05:04] <rob138> rukuartic, i believe intranet (it's a school building's LAN, through ethernet, if that helps)
[05:05] <god> how can i install tinyx
[05:05] <Centaur5> I get an ip from my router and I can ping it but I can't ping other computers or browse the net. In network-admin it won't save the default gateway.  How can I fix this?
[05:05] <nickrud> intelikey, ah, point to you. I'm brainwashed :)
[05:05] <rukuartic> rob138: Yep, you're right. So you get a connection, but it keeps dropping? What port are you using?
[05:05] <biovore> god: your god.. figure it out :-P (know clue here)
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> !info tinyx
[05:05] <Determinist> any of you guys know of anything similar to yakuake for gnome? i really like this app and i would want to use it on gnome
[05:05] <SimplyFlower> N2DIY: thanks anyway
[05:05] <god> i wish
[05:05] <biovore> lolz
[05:05] <biovore> I don't think its a package in ubuntu.. would have to build from source
[05:06] <nickrud> god, you never changed your nick?
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> god,  if its not in the repos.. i guess ya sould to to the programs homepage.. and start reading.
[05:06] <rob138> rukuartic, i cannot get a connection is my problem, i cannot ssh 147.222.178.28 unless i am connected on the same LAN
[05:06] <rukuartic> rob138: Yeah. Its going to be difficult to telnet to your computer from anywhere else but from inside the intranet. Have you successfully connected from outside before?
[05:07] <N2DIY> rob138, that makes sense, sound like you can't get through the firewall.
[05:07] <god> dont make me zap you with 10000000000000000volts the site dosent seem to have a howto
 intelikey, ah, point to you. I'm brainwashed :)  <--- hehhe  a clean mind is a good thing  :)
[05:07] <rukuartic> rob138: In order to connect to your computer, you'd need the root router (the one that distributes internet to the campus) to directly redirect all SSH connections to your computer
[05:07] <nickrud> intelikey, that's a fault I cannot claim, a clean mind
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> how unfortunate.
[05:07] <intelikey> :)
[05:08] <nickrud> the longer you live, the crustier the ring
[05:08] <rob138> rukuartic, N2DIY, so it's probably impossible for me to?
[05:08] <ramza3> anybody know why they changed xchat, this gnome-xchat sucks
[05:08] <GigaClon> _jason, a new user can access man man
[05:08] <nickrud> ramza3, you can get xchat back, it's in universe
[05:09] <_jason> GigaClon: ok, that narrow down your search to your home directory
[05:09] <stone61> hi all
[05:09] <rukuartic> rob138: Not quite sure. Try contacting your sysadmin, see if he has any solutions. Or try a few different ports.
[05:09] <nickrud> ramza3, but that's a #dapper+1 question
[05:09] <ramza3> nickrud: you remember the name?
[05:09] <rukuartic> hi stone61
[05:09] <stone61> i cannot login as admin
[05:09] <N2DIY> rob138, not impossible, but I don't know how to crack a firewall.
[05:09] <nickrud> ramza3, xchat :)
[05:09] <rukuartic> stone61: You mean "root"?
[05:09] <stone61> sorry wrong chat
[05:09] <_jason> GigaClon: grep MANPATH .[^g] *
[05:09] <rob138> rukuartic, but that IP adress is not even pingable from outside the network, so using a different port wouldnt work right?
[05:09] <stone61> its kjoomla i cannot log in
[05:09] <ramza3> nickrud, I am getting rid of this garbage
[05:09] <stone61> thx bye
[05:09] <_jason> GigaClon: make sure you use caps
[05:09] <stone61> i stay
[05:10] <stone61> and listen and learn
[05:10] <_jason> GigaClon: should have said: grep MANPATH ~/.[^g] *
[05:10] <chip42> rob138: the machine could be there and ignoring the pings. using a different port might work, provided the machine is actually there
[05:10] <nickrud> ramza3, I tripped over that one so bad, I bitched before I fixed my sources. I felt stupid :)
[05:10] <vaaX> how do you register a name on irc?
[05:10] <_jason> !register
[05:10] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:10] <rukuartic> rob138: No, they have the router set to be not pingable to prevent from attacks. I can't ping my own router, but I can still connect to it. Thing is, I say "forward all port 22" (thats ssh) "to 192.168.1.101" (thats my computer)
[05:10] <god> how do you install tinyx
[05:10] <ramza3> nickrud, hehe; there are a lot of little changes with dapper that are getting to me
[05:10] <N2DIY> rob138, the system is probably set up to ignore pings, to prevent denial of service attacks.
[05:10] <GigaClon> grep: /home/gigaclon/.sound-juicer.gigaclon: No such device or address
[05:10] <GigaClon>  _jason
[05:10] <vaaX> how?
[05:11] <rukuartic> rob138: When the head router at the campus (connected directly to the internet) gets a packet saying "I want to connect to ssh!" the router says "OK! Where do I send it? There's a million computers on campus."
[05:11] <rob138> chip42, rukuartic, on the sshd.config file of the computer i am trying to connect to i have added port 2222 to and cannot ssh to that either
[05:11] <nickrud> ramza3, change is good for the soul, it's bad to get too crusty
[05:11] <ramza3> nickrud: we shall see
[05:11] <rukuartic> rob138: So you'd need to ask the system administrator to forward one port to your computer. depending on the size of the campus, that may or may not be too hard.
[05:11] <rukuartic> rob138: Or possibly he may have a solution for you :P
[05:11] <_jason> GigaClon: heh maybe we should jsut jump straight to find: grep MANPATH ~/.[^sg] *
[05:11] <nickrud> ramza3, when I get too frustrated, I consider going back to unstable. Then, I consider the upside of sticking, and have.
[05:12] <SimplyFlower> where can i get help a hardware problem?
[05:12] <ramza3> nickrud, small quetion, you seem smart; you know how I can get the default terminal to do an automatic copy-paste when I select something
[05:12] <GigaClon> /home/gigaclon/.bash_history:grep MANPATH ~/.*
[05:12] <GigaClon>  _jason
[05:12] <N2DIY> SimplyFlower, here, we need to know what the hardware is!
[05:12] <_jason> GigaClon: nothing?
[05:13] <god> how do you install tinyx
[05:13] <sethk> N2DIY, it's that stuff with all the wires connected to it
[05:13] <nickrud> ramza3, select, then middle-button click where you want to paste? works mostly, except where gnome resists
[05:13] <SimplyFlower> D-Link Ethernet
[05:13] <ramza3> nickrud, thanks
[05:13] <sethk> SimplyFlower, a bit more detail might help
[05:13] <N2DIY> SimplyFlower, model number?
[05:13] <ramza3ubu> ramza3: hello
[05:13] <sethk> SimplyFlower, d-link makes many different cards and products
[05:13] <rob138> rukuartic, thanks, don't know if the admin will be helpful, they are assholes here
[05:13] <N2DIY> SimplyFlower, that's why a model number helps!
[05:14] <SimplyFlower> D_Link DFE-500TXPCI Fast Ethernet
[05:14] <sybariten> is this information up to date? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:14] <sybariten> if so, why does the introduction say that mySQL can only be installed by compiling ?
[05:14] <_jason> GigaClon: find ~ -type f -exec grep MANPATH '{}' \;               I think that will work, maybe someone can check me on that?
[05:14] <SimplyFlower> DECchip 21142/43
[05:14] <chip42> rob138: probably right about that. if there is access across port 80 or some other standard service, you might be able to setup a tunnel over and achieve the connection you are after.. talking about not letting the admins in on it
[05:14] <sybariten> and why do they install first php4 and then php5 ?
[05:15] <sybariten> same for mySQL? (first 4 then 5)
[05:15] <rukuartic> rob138: =\
[05:15] <rukuartic> sybariten: If you want a quick server up and running in 5 minutes, use XAMPP
[05:16] <kkathman> xampp rocks
[05:16] <sybariten> rukuartic: yeah i know
[05:16] <rukuartic> sybariten: Comes with Apache, MySQL, PHP, Python, and a whole buncha other stuff
[05:16] <rukuartic> sybariten: Or just use apachetoolbox
[05:16] <N2DIY> sethk, I don't understand your question? You mean microphones and antennas? Yes.
[05:16] <rob138> chip42, how could i setup a tunnel?
[05:16] <martynda> hi, has anyone gotten HP calculators to connect to ubuntu and transfer files?
[05:16] <rukuartic> _jason: running
[05:17] <sybariten> rukuartic: but considering how far apt and easy *nix distros like Ubuntu has come, i figiured it would be pretty easy to set up the most common style of apache
[05:17] <sybariten> but the guide is a bit confusing
[05:17] <sethk> N2DIY, I was just trying to be amusing.  :)
[05:17] <chip42> rob138: google for "ssh tunnel"... i believe there is even a howto using only putty
[05:17] <rukuartic> sybariten: Heh I had trouble too
[05:17] <sethk> N2DIY, not terribly successfully it appears
[05:17] <rukuartic> chip42: He's in a university network...
[05:17] <chip42> rukuartic: oh. starting to seem clearer to me :
[05:18] <N2DIY> sethk, I turned my head for a second, and with all the traffic here, almost missed your message, where you referring to ham radio?
[05:18] <chip42> rukuartic: but he is trying to establish a connection from withinthe university network to the outside, no? ssh tunnel would accomplish that
[05:18] <rukuartic> chip42: Other way around. From outside to inside network.
[05:18] <sethk> N2DIY, I don't even remember by now  :)
[05:19] <nickrud> _jason, I wish i could check your find statement :)
[05:19] <N2DIY> sethk, OOKKAAYY!
[05:19] <chip42> rukuartic: not really a difference. he will required access to both machines. ssh tunnel still does the job
[05:19] <Vaske_Car> seen dabar
[05:19] <rukuartic> chip42: Thing is, how do you tunnel inside? You still have to have port forwarding to your box
[05:20] <Vaske_Car> man my server with ubuntu laster 75days and i had to restart it because of server upgrade, amazing!!
[05:20] <rukuartic> Vaske_Car: Wow you didn't lose power for that long?
[05:21] <Vaske_Car> no
[05:21] <GigaClon> _jason, I think autopackage is the culprit
[05:21] <nickrud> !autopackage
[05:21] <ubotu> somebody said autopackage was evil
[05:21] <N2DIY> SimplyFlower, you may want to ask your question again, with the make, model and chip info?
[05:21] <_jason> GigaClon: heh there you go
[05:21] <nickrud> hm, I wonder who someone was
[05:21] <Vaske_Car> i just host samba, teamspeak and few other stuff
[05:21] <rukuartic> ROFL...
[05:21] <Coir> Can someone help me with this error I am encountering upon boot of Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12910 . I am not booting off FAT32 or anything...
[05:21] <_jason> ubotu: botsnack
[05:21] <ubotu> :)
[05:21] <GigaClon> inkscape uses autopackage
[05:22] <rukuartic> _jason: ?
[05:22] <chip42> rukuartic: don't think so. i think the tunnel would have to be created from inside since the internal machine most likely gets all its access from a proxy.. tunnel would operate over the proxy
[05:22] <_jason> rukuartic: what's up?
[05:22] <Vaske_Car> anybody here familiar with dedicated servers?
[05:22] <nickrud> GigaClon, Inkskape is in the repos ..
[05:22] <rukuartic> _jason: botsnack?
[05:22] <_jason> rukuartic: yeah, he was a good bot so he got a snack
[05:22] <rukuartic> chip42: Still not following you.
[05:22] <rukuartic> _jason: haha
[05:22] <rukuartic> _jason: so we're teaching emotion to a robot?
[05:22] <nickrud> I'm gonna see who taught ubotu that one
[05:23] <GigaClon> it was before inkscape was
[05:23] <nickrud> heh. Sev eas did :)
[05:23] <chip42> rukuartic: i guess you are right. the connection is in reverse order..  what i am saying is no port forwarding would be required if the connection originates from the internal network.. the internal box doesn't have to listen around for connections.
[05:23] <GigaClon> so how do i get rid of autopackage
[05:23] <JKnife> do yall harbor trolls?
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> is there any channel with people who host servers, resale itd..?
[05:24] <SimplyFlower> sethk, the only info i have about my D-Link Ethernet is from the the listing of devices.  its says:  D-Link DFE-500TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter(RevD) DECchip 21142/43.  ubuntu doesn't recognize for a connection to the internet.  What can I do?
[05:24] <nickrud> GigaClon, no Idea. But the autopackage home page should have instructions for using autopackage to remove it's own packages
[05:24] <sethk> SimplyFlower, the DFE-500TX is an important piece of information
[05:24] <rukuartic> chip42: Yeah, thats a granted. :p
[05:24] <toMte83a> hmm.. feels impossible to learn all about the terminal, i mean, what way is a smart place to start? New ubunta user and it feels like most of the things should be done thrue the Terminal... =/
[05:24] <PORDO> how do i stop a window from popping up when a usb device is mounted?
[05:24] <rukuartic> toMte83a: :O You are my hero!
[05:25] <sethk> SimplyFlower, when you do ifconfig -a, is the adapter listed?  Is it listed with ifconfig (without -a)?
[05:25] <nickrud> Coir, there's gotta be some more errors around there, maybe some context will help
[05:25] <toMte83a> rukuartic ? lol why?
[05:25] <rukuartic> toMte83a: Well the terminal is bash based. Type in "whatis bash"
[05:25] <nickrud> Coir, or at least some messages
[05:25] <N2DIY> Don't mount it! :)
[05:25] <rukuartic> toMte83a: Because everyone's like "Whee gui! Pretty colors"
[05:26] <rukuartic> toMte83a: First thing that I would reccommend you doing, is reading up on bash tutorials. And then? Ctrl+alt+f1 brings you to a bash only environment. ctrl+alt+f7 should bring you back.
[05:26] <SimplyFlower> don't know.  i'll check... give me a minute... have to go to the computer its on
[05:26] <Coir> let me see
[05:26] <_jason> toMte83a: do you /want/ to do it or do you feel it is the only way to do thing?
[05:26] <toMte83a> rukuartic : lol ... well, yeah, it is pretty colors but i dont go from win to Ubunta just becouse of the colors
[05:26] <rukuartic> toMte83a: And then just learn to use the big cli programs like "irssi" and "vi" and stuff like that... "apt-get" and "grep"
[05:26] <N2DIY> What's Ubunta?
[05:26] <rukuartic> XD How people from New Jersy say Ubuntu
[05:27] <toMte83a> _jason: i feel like i really wanna learn all about the terminal there is to know
[05:27] <chip42> rukuartic: i guess i don't understand the difficulty then.. unless the whole point is to initiate the connection from the outside.
[05:27] <N2DIY> I'm from New Jermany, but I don't say it that way!
[05:27] <toMte83a> rukuartic : never heard of any of those programs
[05:27] <_jason> toMte83a: that's cool, I'm going to send you some basic tutorials to get you started and then I recommend you read the bash scripting tutorial on tldp.org to get into more advanced stuff
[05:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell toMte83a about cli
[05:28] <toMte83a> thanks _jason
[05:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell toMte83a about rute
[05:28] <_jason> toMte83a: rute is a good guide to but it goes into much more than just terminal
[05:29] <Coir> nickrud, I am not seeing any other error messages
[05:29] <N2DIY> _jason, the rute manual is good stuff, I wish I had found that years ago.
[05:29] <rukuartic> toMte83a: Vi - Like "gedit"; irssi - IRC, apt-get - install stuff; grep - search
[05:29] <SimplyFlower> i'm back.   no to both questions, sethk
[05:29] <Coir> nickrud, the error I gave occurs aftger "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System"
[05:29] <_jason> N2DIY: that's exactly what I thought when I first learned about it
[05:29] <rukuartic> toMte83a: "man command" gives a complete tutorial, "whatis command" tells you in a nutshell
[05:30] <rukuartic> !rute
[05:30] <ubotu> well, rute is a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://rute.2038bug.com/
[05:30] <rukuartic> Cool.
[05:31] <rukuartic> toMte83a: There's like, a program for every gui program... "mocp" is my favorite ^_^
[05:31] <Coir> nickrud, art thou there? =P
[05:31] <xin> I've downloaded a package (php5) source with apt-get source and ./configure'd it to suit my needs and then tested it and it works properly. How do I compile it as a .deb that provides for php5 and its counterparts?
[05:31] <rukuartic> toMte83a: w3m and lynx work well too. "naim" is a must for all those AIM people
[05:32] <toMte83a> _jason / rukuartic thanks too both of u... i hope this give me some more knowleage... =)
[05:32] <rukuartic> toMte83a: To find out what I'm talking about, type "apt-cache search w3m" and other programs. VI comes preinstalled though. here's a hint, press "i" to start editing, "esc" to stop, and type ":q" to quit
[05:33] <rukuartic> toMte83a: The console's especially handy to have if you use SSH to get into your computer. Oh, and SCREEN is a must have :P
[05:33] <_jason> toMte83a: and if you want to get started with vim, 'vimtutor' is a great thing to run too
[05:33] <Vaske_Car> is there any site with SHELL tutorial for beginers?
[05:33] <nickrud> Coir, ok. my first pass is that something somewhere is running a fat32 check of some kind. The first two references I've seen are about usb sticks, so I don't know if that matters, but sda devices I shy away from.
[05:33] <mike> Could anybody assist me with nVidia nForce 2 issues on Ubuntu Breezy?
[05:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell Vaske_Car about cli
[05:33] <toMte83a> _jason rukuartic: saving all the things u whriting too me and im gonna check it all, thanks again :)
[05:34] <Coir> hrm
[05:34] <nickrud> Coir, what kind of device are you booting from, anyway?
[05:34] <N2DIY> Vaske_Car, run man bash in a terminal
[05:34] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  the adapter isn't listed when i do ifconfig -a or ifconfig
[05:34] <Coir> IDE HDD
[05:34] <sethk> SimplyFlower, ok, that means either that a kernel module must be loaded, or possibly that a kernel rebuild is necessary with support for that NIC
[05:34] <toMte83a> Nice, Now i have something too do all day long... :)
[05:35] <mike> Am I invisible? I just need a little help with my nForce2 audio drivers.
[05:35] <toMte83a> Loads of coffey and this is gonna be fun... =)
[05:35] <N2DIY> SimplyFlower, google search for your cards make and model, and "linux module."
[05:35] <rukuartic> toMte83a: To show you the coolness of bash, try this "ps aux" (that lists all the programs running) Now try this, "ps aux | grep <your username>" now that shows you all the programs you're running. You can do that with "ls" too (list files in the directory) "ls | grep <files>"
[05:35] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i'm a newbie.  what does that mean and what do i need to do?
[05:35] <nickrud> Coir, then if I saw that error, I'd check my data trail and reinstall.
[05:35] <SimplyFlower> or what can i do?
[05:36] <mjb> Hello my /var/lib/dpkg/available is missing? apt-get update does't seem to refresh. Any clues?
[05:36] <sethk> SimplyFlower, it isn't really difficult.  I'm going to have to look up the name of the module.   I'm a bit tied up with work stuff at this moment but be patient and I'll get to it.  Or, perhaps, someone else knows?  The name of the kernel module for his Dlink NIC (exact model above)?
[05:36] <N2DIY> SimplyFlower, once we find what module(driver) the card needs, we can get it to work.
[05:36] <ramza3ubu> the smb.conf file provided; what changes do most people make to it; for example just a simple share with a winxp machine
[05:36] <Coir> nickrud, I tried reinstallation, albeit the Dapper Drake Beta, it worked on the first boot fine, but after that... I guess I'll try installing Breezy.
[05:37] <rukuartic> toMte83a: Can you tell I'm obsessed? O_o :: fervish fever... drinks coffee::
[05:37] <mike> nVidia nForce 2 drivers don't seem to be powering my sound except for at the login screen where I get a da-da-da type sound.
[05:37] <GigaClon> _jason what was that find command?
[05:37] <nickrud> Coir, do you have really new hardware?
[05:37] <Coir> nickrud, nope
[05:37] <_jason> GigaClon: find ~ -type f -exec grep MANPATH '{}' \;
[05:38] <GigaClon> it finds some of our discussion
[05:38] <nickrud> Coir, my last dapper install was the live beta, and I installed that to disk. I have normal ide hardware.
[05:38] <SimplyFlower> sethk and N2DIY:  thank you
[05:38] <_jason> GigaClon: what do you mean? like irc logs :P ?
[05:38] <toMte83a> rukuartic : lol ... my english is so bad so i didnt get that line 100% but i know one importent thing, cant live without coffey...
[05:39] <GigaClon> yeah
[05:39] <rukuartic> toMte83a: What do you natively speak? There are #ubuntu-<lang> channels
[05:39] <GigaClon> heheh
[05:39] <Coir> nickrud, the live beta of dapper has always been buggy for me for some reason, the first time I tried it, my GRUB partition got messed-up
[05:39] <_jason> GigaClon: haha
[05:39] <mike> If it helps, I have the nForce driver download from nVidia.com. I've attempted following directions from the site and I get an error saying that the kernel isn't in the right location.
[05:39] <_jason> GigaClon: but nothing useful?
[05:39] <Coir> nickrud, well, grub bootloader rather
[05:39] <GigaClon> not yet
[05:40] <toMte83a> i know, im just visiting this one, im from sweden and spend most of the time in #ubuntu-se but all swedes are asleep right now, boring people
[05:40] <toMte83a> i know, im just visiting this one, im from sweden and spend most of the time in #ubuntu-se but all swedes are asleep right now, boring people rukuartic
[05:41] <GigaClon> http://pastebin.com/682325
[05:41] <mike> Somebody please help me.
[05:41] <GigaClon> we can't
[05:41] <GigaClon> :)
[05:41] <mike> I'm at the end of my rope with this. I'll admit, I'm a newb to linux.
[05:41] <nickrud> Coir, I went for several years without a reinstall, but I've done a handful of fresh installs over the last year. If you're trying to second guess the installer, don't.
[05:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell mike about support
[05:42] <_jason> mike: have you been directed to the nvidia wiki yet?
[05:42] <mike> No, I haven't.
[05:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell mike about nvidia
[05:42] <GigaClon> ignore me
[05:42] <_jason> GigaClon: well definitely seems to be autopackage
[05:43] <GigaClon> is there a way to see what files they come from?
[05:44] <_jason> GigaClon: oops, should have given you that option, use grep -H
[05:44] <mike> ubotu?
[05:44] <GigaClon> you mean find?
[05:44] <GigaClon> mike look at your private messages
[05:44] <_jason> mike: you should have received a private message from ubotu with nvidia wiki link
[05:44] <_jason> GigaClon: find ~ -type f -exec grep -H MANPATH '{}' \;
[05:45] <_jason> GigaClon: even better:
[05:45] <_jason> GigaClon: find ~ -type f -exec grep -Hn MANPATH '{}' \;
[05:45] <mike> Oh! Am I ever dense! LOL Thank you.
[05:45] <rukuartic> mike: humansnack
[05:45] <grap3> okay, I was following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106285&highlight=patch+kernel+2.6.12 and at step nine I compile my kernel like it says but I get an error during
[05:45] <grap3> make[4] : *** No rule to make target `drivers/ide/pci/it821x.c', needed by `drivers/ide/pci/it821x.o'.  Stop.
[05:45] <grap3> Can anyone help me out?
[05:46] <N2DIY> private messages? I'm new to irc, what's that all about?
[05:46] <mike> Right now, all information about my nvidia parts are not available until a later time. I'm using the Breezy Badger version now. The Ubuntu help site seems to have nothing.
[05:47] <mike> So, I'll check out the wiki
[05:47] <rukuartic> mike: lspci?
[05:47] <xin> where can I file a bug with ubuntu? or atleast something that looks like a bug?
[05:47] <eggzeck> grap3, did you ./configure (whatever it is you're trying to do)?
[05:47] <_jason> !bug
[05:47] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[05:47] <xin> duh, im dumb
[05:47] <chip42> N2DIY: all about /msg ;)
[05:47] <grap3> yeah
[05:47] <mike> lspci?
[05:47] <rukuartic> xin: Thats ok :P We all are
[05:47] <eggzeck> grap3, then 'make' and then 'make install'
[05:47] <toMte83a> rukuartic "whatis bash" didnt give anything... just came a -"bash (1) <!--------space-----------//>  -GNU Bourne-Again Shell :/
[05:47] <rukuartic> mike: Lists PCI devices on your machine
[05:47] <rukuartic> toMte83a: Well thats what it is XD
[05:47] <mike> Oh, would this work for onboard audio?
[05:47] <rukuartic> toMte83a: Try "man bash"
[05:47] <toMte83a> Oh...
[05:48] <toMte83a> rukuartic better... thanks
[05:48] <rukuartic> toMte83a: Press "q" to exit the manpage. (ps: man = manual)
[05:49] <mike> Hmm... while I'm at it. Is there any way to make Ubuntu Breezy rescan all USB ports? I've moved my computer and didn't plug things back in where they originally were at installation.
[05:49] <toMte83a> rukuartic could figure.... ;)
[05:49] <xin> hey my bug has been reported, now i just post the fix ^_^
[05:49] <mjb> hey wheres the best irc for apt-get q's?
[05:50] <cafuego> mike: That should not matter at all.
[05:50] <RobyX> What plugins am I supposto install to play music? I downloaded off gtuntella and using rythmbox music player but it tells me every song is not a correct audio stream
[05:50] <mike> Interesting... My USB mouse refuses to cooperate with me now.
[05:50] <_jason> RobyX: mp3?
[05:51] <RobyX> Um?
[05:51] <_jason> RobyX: what type of music files are they?
[05:51] <rukuartic> toMte83a: So yeah, lemme know if you want/need a console app :p
[05:51] <RobyX> mp3
[05:51] <_jason> !mp3
[05:51] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:52] <RobyX> Thanks
[05:53] <toMte83a> console app? extras for the terminal?
[05:53] <toMte83a> console app? extras for the terminal?  rukuartic
[05:53] <N2DIY> mjb, why mess wiht apt-get, when you have /system/admin/synaptic?
[05:53] <GigaClon> _jason, now how to reset my Manpath
[05:53] <intelikey> back.
[05:53] <_jason> GigaClon: export MANPATH=
[05:53] <rukuartic> toMte83a: A console app is just a program designed to run in the console. Search for "music on console" and "ncurses AIM" and "irssi"
[05:53] <rukuartic> toMte83a: irssi is actually preinstalled on ubuntu. Try typing "irc" at the bash prompt
[05:54] <intelikey> N2DIY why mess with a GUI when you have linux ?
[05:54] <GigaClon> _jason thanks
[05:54] <eggzeck> N2DIY, ? I still use apt-get heh
[05:54] <_jason> GigaClon: np
[05:54] <toMte83a> ok?
[05:54] <rukuartic> N2DIY: You mean there's a gui to apt-get?
[05:54] <eggzeck> N2DIY, and synaptic still uses apt-get ;p
[05:54] <rukuartic> toMte83a: :P Just a start to learning the console, using console apps
[05:54] <intelikey> rukuartic it's called synaptic
[05:55] <rukuartic> intelikey: :OOOO You mean I don't have to sit forever typing endless lines of commands into the commandline!? Does that involve using one of those darn fangled mouse things?
[05:55] <christina_> can anyone talk me through installing my web cam?
[05:55] <N2DIY> intelikey, egzeck, urbuartic, yes apt-get has a gui, and yes you can do more with eight fingers and two thumbs.
[05:55] <xin> If a bug I've found is allready on the bugtracker but listed as unconfirmed, should I mark it as confirmed? Or dont I have the permissions to do that?
[05:55] <christina_> i know nothing about this computer
[05:55] <eggzeck> N2DIY, I wasn't asking if apt-get had a gui ;)
[05:56] <N2DIY> than you can with one hand and a mouse.
[05:56] <rukuartic> intelikey: I actually prefer aptitude
[05:56] <intelikey> well as soon as you geeks learn how to use dpkg  and leave all those  "frontends" alone......
[05:56] <christina_> i really need help before i cry
[05:56] <N2DIY> eggzeck, yes, that is what I get for answering a question with a question, I hate that too.
[05:56] <eggzeck> hehe :)
[05:57] <toMte83a> rukuartic gonna read more about irssi too... remeber your nick and if u are online i can yell... but first i need too read a lot and get some good basic ground too stand on
[05:57] <InnerFIRE> whats wrong christina
[05:57] <seamus-laptop> anyone here using Breezy on an Inspiron 600m?
[05:57] <rukuartic> toMte83a: Yep :) Good for you.
[05:57] <rukuartic> Right guys
[05:57] <rukuartic> its late
[05:57] <mike> Uh-huh... maybe I should have used a female name to get answers faster! LOL j/k
[05:57] <toMte83a> rukuartic~ yeah
[05:57] <rukuartic> and Imma head to bed soon.
[05:57] <christina_> innerfire i need to connect my web cam and have no clue how
[05:57] <pundai> hey i just upgraded to dapper but my synaptics touchpad doesnt scroll anymore
[05:58] <eggzeck> pundai, #ubuntu+1
[05:58] <InnerFIRE> what kinda webcam?
[05:58] <pundai> eggzeck, oh
[05:58] <christina_> all i know is that is says hp on it
[05:58] <pvd2006> Ubuntu use to be an option on the boot loader along with windows xp, then I re-installed windows xp on the same partition windows xp was on before and now I dont have an option to boot into ubuntu. Butwhen I goto system info it still shows me I have all 3 partitions.
[05:58] <intelikey> mike maybe....    but sometimes  just asking at the right time is the trick.
[05:58] <pvd2006> Both partitions are on the same hard drive.
[05:59] <slavik> wtf?
[05:59] <toMte83a> rukuartic cant have Ubuntu / linux just becouse its nice colors and chatting... ;) cya later going /away now, learning shit...
[05:59] <slavik> ok, good
[05:59] <InnerFIRE> are u using dapper or breezy?
[05:59] <InnerFIRE> check your p/m
[05:59] <mike> I'm just hoping to get sound working on here... unless I need modules to play wav files too.
[05:59] <rukuartic> InnerFIRE: Methinks, its a dual boot box. Shutdown/reboot maybe, but then no login.
[05:59] <slavik> dapper ftw
[05:59] <seamus-laptop> Looking for some help with the screensavers on my laptop.  When they're previewed, they seem to run fine, but in fullscreen they are horribly slow.  Running the open source ati drivers on a mobility radeon 9000.
[05:59] <rukuartic> InnerFIRE: That is, if I'm wrong.
[05:59] <christina_> i think it's breezy
[06:00] <christina_> yes it is
[06:00] <eggzeck> seamus-laptop, what's your memory like?
[06:00] <rukuartic> seamus-laptop: Welcome to Xorg
[06:00] <N2DIY> pvd2006, winders eats up the partiton table, or your boot manager.
[06:00] <pvd2006> is there a way I can get ubuntu working again through some file in windows?
[06:00] <InnerFIRE> most hp cameras work with breezy.. ive only had problems with creative..
[06:00] <rukuartic> And happy new day from EST everyone
[06:00] <seamus-laptop> eggzeck: 64 megs on the video, 512 main
[06:00] <slavik> rukuartic: same
[06:01] <mike> Heh, EST... we've still got an hour to go here. LOL
[06:01] <InnerFIRE> open up ekiga
[06:01] <christina_> ekiga? what's that?
[06:01] <pvd2006> m2kiy, so how can I get the partition table back and get the option to boot back into ubuntu?
[06:01] <pvd2006> can I use the ubuntu cd
[06:01] <InnerFIRE> gnomemeeting
[06:01] <mike> InnerFIRE: What about a dual mode camera from Vivitar?
[06:01] <N2DIY> pvd2006, you might be able to re-install Ubuntu? always install winder, and then linux, or winders will mess things up.
[06:01] <christina_> i'm sorry i'm not very bright...lol
[06:01] <intelikey> !tell pvd2006 about dualboot
[06:02] <pvd2006> m2diy yeah, that is what I did before.
[06:02] <christina_> it won't let me open it
[06:02] <InnerFIRE> christina.. open up gnomemeeting, it should be in your applications menu under internet
[06:02] <|Lord_Zoo|> Hi people
[06:02] <N2DIY> intelikey, dual boot won't work if winders is the second install, always install linux last.
[06:03] <GigaClon> anyone use davfs?
[06:03] <christina_> then what?
[06:03] <|Lord_Zoo|> can anybody tell me where's the modprobe.conf or modules.conf in ubuntu?
[06:03] <InnerFIRE> run the initial setup and see if your system will detect your camera
[06:03] <christina_> brb
[06:03] <christina_> thanks
[06:04] <intelikey> N2DIY he said it's on the first partition
[06:04] <seamus-laptop> |Lord_Zoo|  /etc/modules
[06:05] <pvd2006> intelikey, I read the site and I saw the part about the partition table, but what if ubuntu is already installed and I just need to get the partition table back so I can boot back into ubuntu. Can I use the ubuntu cd for that?
[06:05] <N2DIY> intelikey, doesn't matter, that is where the mbr are is, and that is what winders is going to grab.
[06:06] <N2DIY> If he can still see his linux partition, maybe he can save his data, but he'll have to reload linux to dual boot.
[06:06] <jmoncayo> is there any kind of Cbuilder or delphy 7 for linux??
[06:06] <pvd2006> windows xp is the first partition(0) and ubuntu is partition (1) but windows load as partition(0)
[06:06] <|Lord_Zoo|> seamus-laptop, so, if I want to disable ipv6, like I do in fedora, I must put alias net-pf-10 off in there?
[06:06] <nickrud> |Lord_Zoo|, which version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:06] <intelikey> pvd2006 all you need to do is reinstall grub,   as i see it.
[06:06] <sethk> jmoncayo, not precisely, but there are gui builders and IDEs.
[06:06] <sethk> jmoncayo, take a look at anjuta
[06:06] <slavik> !anjuta
[06:06] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[06:06] <|Lord_Zoo|> nickrud, 5.10
[06:06] <pvd2006> ok re-install gfrub, so can you just reinstall grub straight from the ubuntu cd on bootup?
[06:07] <intelikey> N2DIY no not a reload  just reinstall grub/lilo  or what ever boot loader he uses.
[06:07] <jmoncayo> sethk, what is IDE, ?? i am kind of learning programming gui?
[06:07] <nickrud> |Lord_Zoo|, a sec, I need to mount that partition
[06:07] <sethk> jmoncayo, IDE means integrated development environment
[06:07] <N2DIY> intelikey, ok, I don't know alot about this, just what I've read, I don't mess with dual boot systems.
[06:08] <|Lord_Zoo|> thanks, nickrud, I'll wait :)
[06:08] <intelikey> pvd2006 yes you can.    you can mount your linux partition cd into it  then  do   chroot . grub-install
[06:08] <sethk> jmoncayo, it refers to an editor with smart indenting, and you can compile from within the editor, and such
[06:08] <avr> hi. does anybody know how to get a fullscreen presentation using xpdf? i do xpdf -fullscreen, but the scrollbar and the border at the bottom reappear
[06:08] <sethk> jmoncayo, a GUI builder is often part of an IDE; it allows you to build a user interface interactively
[06:09] <sethk> jmoncayo, I don't do user interfaces, so I know more about IDEs than I know about GUI builders
[06:09] <jmoncayo> sethk, oh yea i remember that from class :)
[06:09] <InnerFIRE> has anyone here ever owned a Gateway performance 500?
[06:10] <N2DIY> intelikey, and I hope your right, I've savaged some winder boxes, and had to run debug on hard drive to get them bootable with linux.
[06:10] <jmoncayo> so do you know any gui builder?
[06:10] <sethk> jmoncayo, for java, look at eclipse
[06:10] <sethk> jmoncayo, sun has a java gui builder
[06:10] <sethk> jmoncayo, that can run in linux
[06:11] <pvd2006> intelikey, alright, so then I should have an option to boot into ubuntu and windows xp after that.
[06:11] <intelikey> pvd2006 yes.    the options are in the /boot/menu.lst  file on the linux partition.
[06:11] <slavik> jmoncayo: there is also Glade for C/C++
[06:11] <multi> is it possible to do a ssh_keygen so that 4 machines can sign on to each other in any combination without needing a password?
[06:12] <jmoncayo> slavik, Glade is like c++builder>
[06:12] <jmoncayo> ?
[06:12] <|Lord_Zoo|> it is possible that the configuration resides on /etc/modutils?
[06:12] <sethk> multi, yes
[06:12] <N2DIY> pvd2006, your going to have to preserve your partitions, be careful. I've never messed with that.
[06:12] <slavik> right, what did I say?
[06:12] <multi> sethk: what is the magic incantation?
[06:12] <nickrud> |Lord_Zoo|, you'd put that in a new file in /etc/modprobe.d . I need to refresh my memory every time I need to tweak the kernel
[06:12] <slavik> oh, oops, misworded
[06:12] <toMte83a> rukuartic only atleast 2000 lines of information... this is gonna take time... lol
[06:12] <slavik> you were talking about a GUI builder ...
[06:12] <|Lord_Zoo|> no matter what's the file name?
[06:12] <slavik> Glade builds GUI in C/C++
[06:13] <christina_> ok innerfire?
[06:13] <sethk> multi, you set ssh to do pki (public/private keys), and you have to put the keys into the .ssh directory ($HOME/.ssh) on all the machines
[06:13] <jmoncayo> slavik, oki thanks
[06:13] <intelikey> ok i've had it.    pvd2006 i'll go and let N2DIY talk you out of fixing it.   good night and good luck.
[06:13] <christina_> it won't let me in gnome meeting either
[06:14] <nickrud> |Lord_Zoo|, assuming it's not set by anything that already in that dir, that's where all those alias's show up
[06:14] <InnerFIRE> what do u mean?
[06:14] <jmoncayo> slavik, what is the difference between glade and glade-2? or GTK and GTK-2
[06:14] <InnerFIRE> what did it say?
[06:14] <N2DIY> intelikey, what happened, I said I didn't know how to do it?
[06:15] <|Lord_Zoo|> thanks nickrud , I'll try it and let you know :)
[06:15] <jmoncayo> sethk, anjuta is only for gnome??
[06:15] <sethk> jmoncayo, no, I run it on a kde machine also
[06:15] <multi> sethk: looking up pki... ... the previous procedure for 2 machines was to copy the id_rsa.pub file to the other authorized_keys file.... but this dosn't seem to work for more than two
[06:16] <|Lord_Zoo|> I'm too fedorized right now, and I want to test ubuntu :)
[06:16] <christina_> it says it's already running if you want to call a given callto or h323 url use gnomeeting -c url
[06:16] <jmoncayo> sethk, have you used c++ builder or delphi?
[06:16] <sethk> jmoncayo, something can be "for gnome" or "for kde" but can still run in either environment.  I know that sounds weird but it's true
[06:16] <christina_> what's that mean?
[06:16] <sethk> jmoncayo, I used delphi a long time ago
[06:16] <jmoncayo> sethk, in antuja like delphi?
[06:17] <InnerFIRE> nevermind calling..
[06:17] <sethk> jmoncayo, there are similarities.  they aren't identical
[06:17] <jmoncayo> i mean the IDE and that stuff
[06:17] <nickrud>  Lord_Zoo|, /etc/modprobe.d/alias file has the  net-pf-10 ipv6 def, you might want to look there to make any changes
[06:17] <InnerFIRE> during the setup of gnomemeeting, it should ask you for your camera settings
[06:17] <sethk> jmoncayo, for one thing, anjuta can do various languages, and delphi is pretty much a one language tool
[06:17] <no_no_no> I need help!!
[06:17] <jmoncayo> sethk, ok i will try it then
[06:17] <sethk> jmoncayo, that's the best thing to do.  it's definitely worth looking at; it's a nice program
[06:17] <christina_> i can't even get in it though
[06:17] <christina_> i just wanna cry
[06:17] <no_no_no> i'm a complete noob.. and am trying to edit etc/network/options ... but dunno how to..
[06:18] <slavik> jmoncayo: glade-2 and gtk-2 are more up to date :)
[06:18] <jmoncayo> sethk, what is that of GTK?
[06:18] <christina_> i'm so stupid with computers....i wish i knew more
[06:18] <jmoncayo> slavik, what about anjuta?
[06:19] <zith> how do you test out an fstab config without restarting?
[06:19] <InnerFIRE> holdon..
[06:19] <multi> sethk; thank you... peace
[06:19] <no_no_no> can anyone help me? im trying to setup an ltsp server with two NIC...
[06:19] <chip42> zith: use mount... where you got the idea you need to restart after making a change, i dunno. that is generally not true in linux
[06:19] <|Lord_Zoo|> I saw it there, but I Thought I can define this in another file
[06:19] <sethk> jmoncayo, GTK is the GUI toolkit that gnome is built on top of
[06:19] <|Lord_Zoo|> I'll change it directly in alias and see what happens
[06:20] <InnerFIRE> christina, what are you going to use the webcam for?
[06:20] <|Lord_Zoo|> thanks again nickrud
[06:20] <no_no_no> i dunno anything and im following these directions : https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ThinClientHowtoNAT
[06:20] <holy_cow> no_no_no, in terminal type in sudo gedit, and open it up with gedit
[06:20] <sethk> jmoncayo, if you'll excuse the dangling prepositions
[06:20] <zith> chip42: just type mount and that applies fstab?
[06:20] <harisund> Today I observed a very strange thing. The computer that I have here doesn't allow me to install either of breezy or hoary, but actually installed Warty !
[06:20] <InnerFIRE> which program?
[06:20] <christina_> to chat on line
[06:20] <no_no_no> but i dunno how to edit etc/network/options if i dont have permission. :(
[06:20] <lrojas> hi all
[06:20] <InnerFIRE> using what?
[06:20] <zith> chip42: i just know that processing fstab is part of the boot initialization but don't know where it's initiated exactly :>
[06:20] <InnerFIRE> msn?
[06:20] <InnerFIRE> yahoo?
[06:20] <holy_cow> no_no_no, thats why i told you to type 'sudo gedit'
[06:20] <christina_> no
[06:20] <harisund> Is there a difference in the way Canonical burnt those CDs (the ones sent through shipit) ?
[06:20] <christina_> firefox
[06:20] <no_no_no> oh sorry
[06:20] <no_no_no> :)
[06:20] <holy_cow> that will start gedit wit proper permissions
[06:20] <InnerFIRE> hrm
[06:21] <lrojas> hi guys
[06:21] <no_no_no> it didnt start anyting
[06:21] <InnerFIRE> have u tried going to a channel?
[06:21] <nickrud> |Lord_Zoo|, theoretically any changes you make to a file in /etc is supposed to be sacrsanct; kernel parameters don't fall into that categority
[06:21] <christina_> channel?
[06:21] <holy_cow> did you get asked for a password?
[06:21] <no_no_no> no
[06:21] <chip42> zith: sort of got it... once you modified fstab, the changes were made... mount is being run on boot.. it reads fstab and brings up the fileystems... you can use the command manually to bring up any recent changes you just made to fstab
[06:21] <lrojas> anybody experienced with xubuntu?
[06:21] <InnerFIRE> have you tried to use the camera already with firefox?
[06:21] <holy_cow> impossible
[06:21] <jmoncayo> sethk, oki so gtk+ 2 comes with new libraries for gui?
[06:21] <holy_cow> if its not asking for your pass your hosed your system
[06:21] <chip42> zith: man mount will tell you how... but generally mount /mount/point will bring up something defined in fstab
[06:21] <harisund> I have a quick question guy, if I install warty (4.10!) can I just modify the sources to point to dapper, do an upgrade, and then a dist-upgrade, and expect a working system?
[06:22] <no_no_no> let me restart
[06:22] <christina_> i have to run the cd first to install it
[06:22] <sethk> jmoncayo, not sure what you mean by "new" libraries
[06:22] <holy_cow> no_no_no, have you done something stupid like create a root account and are using that?
[06:22] <christina_> it won't run
[06:22] <jmoncayo> sethk, well can antuja run under fluxbox??
[06:22] <mram> finally flas player 7 is out for ubuntu
[06:22] <no_no_no> im using whatever edubuntu asked for..
[06:22] <mram> flash
[06:22] <sethk> jmoncayo, yes, as long as the libraries it needs are installed.  but the libraries aren't packaged with it, you have to install them first
[06:22] <_jason> mram: it's been out for a while?
[06:22] <no_no_no> its a $
[06:23] <InnerFIRE> check your private msgs
[06:23] <lrojas> i want to install xubuntu but i am not sure of the propper way to do it
[06:23] <slavik> jmoncayo: I am using Anjuta. It is an IDE for C/C++/Perl and some others
[06:23] <nickrud> harisund, no, release to release and the wiki has the gotchas
[06:23] <jmoncayo> sethk, if i install antuja with apt-get will it get all the libraries i need
[06:23] <christina_> how?
[06:23] <slavik> I am having trouble creating distributions though
[06:23] <InnerFIRE> ?
[06:23] <sethk> jmoncayo, yes, it will take care of those automatically
[06:23] <InnerFIRE> i just private msged u
[06:23] <rob138> hi, is there a way to download files off daap shares on a network?
[06:23] <harisund> nickrud: Ok, so what is your suggestion? I have just installed Warty now. I want breezy.
[06:23] <jmoncayo> slavik, antuja can make gui
[06:23] <InnerFIRE> is your nickname registered?
[06:23] <zith> chip42: perfect thanks!  when I rebooted that machine it didn't start sshd agaain for me to get into remotely... :(
[06:23] <christina_> yes
[06:23] <holy_cow> no_no_no,  your messing something up ... your shell is the program you start from applications / accessories / terminal by the way
[06:24] <holy_cow> not alt/ f2 if that is what your doing
[06:24] <no_no_no> what's alt ft?
[06:24] <lrojas> xubuntu mentions dapper, but i see it as a beta..  can someone please clarify?
[06:24] <nickrud> harisund, if your pipe to the internet is really big, going from warty -> hoary -> breezy might make sense, but if not just getting the breezy install iso makes better sense.
[06:24] <slavik> jmoncayo: Anjuta uses Glade to make GUI :)
[06:24] <holy_cow> *sigh*
[06:24] <jmoncayo> oki, so i can do it cool
[06:25] <no_no_no> hey it worked!
[06:25] <slavik> no_no_no: 'ALT' is a key next to the space bar
[06:25] <mram> _jason: really hmm, mine just did the update!
[06:25] <holy_cow> no_no_no, of course it did
[06:25] <slavik> 'F2' is a key along the top of the keyboard
[06:25] <zhenre> why does ubuntu have to reboot after updates...debian/knoppix don't seem to require it
[06:25] <no_no_no> alt-f2 is terminal shortcut?
[06:25] <_jason> mram: macromedia's link was down the last few days
[06:25] <|Lord_Zoo|> besides this, I tend to like ubuntu :)
[06:25] <no_no_no> sorry im brand new to this
[06:25] <holy_cow> no its not
[06:25] <slavik> zhenre: what did you update?
[06:25] <harisund> nickrud: The problem is, for some reason only the Warty CD was identified by my machine here. So I could end up with Warty only. The other CDs (ones from Canonical) stopped and gave the error, something along the lines of unable to verify CD integrity
[06:25] <|Lord_Zoo|> Now it's matter of time and patience to learn a few new things
[06:25] <mram> _jason: i see that could be why mine just updated right now
[06:25] <InnerF|RE> i honestly never got my camera to work until i upgraded to dapper..
[06:25] <_jason> mram: yeah
[06:26] <mram> _jason: thanks for the info
[06:26] <no_no_no> hey after i did sudo gedit once it didnt ask for the paswd after i closed the terminal and tried it again
[06:26] <rob138> hi, is there a way to download files off daap shares... like daap:// or even with a program?
[06:26] <holy_cow> harisund, it  makes no difference, you can start off with warty and dist-upgrade to whatever current is btw.
[06:26] <christina_> how do i do that?
[06:26] <harisund> nickrud: I am sure the problem is not with the CDs, since I have around 10 such CDs (I do a lot of distribution here) and I have installed on other machines with them. I know the CD drive is not a problem since it installed FC 4/5 and Warty
[06:26] <InnerF|RE> im trying to private msg you..
[06:26] <InnerF|RE> what are u using
[06:26] <InnerF|RE> Xchat?
[06:27] <christina_> yes
[06:27] <holy_cow> no_no_no, once you give the command permission, it remembers it for that session.  when you log out it will forget it because the session is reset
[06:27] <harisund> holy_cow looks like I will have to end up doing that only. Just wanted to make sure that nothing gets broken along the way.
[06:27] <InnerF|RE> look at the bottom of your screen, you should have a msg from me
[06:27] <christina_> i just see u said updrade dapper
[06:27] <holy_cow> harisund, *nod* mostly its foolproof, but stuff does happen ... i've never had a debian / ubuntu system unfixeable doing an upgrade
[06:27] <harisund> nickrud: I remember you told me about an upgrade route mentioned in the wiki. Could you help me find that out?
[06:28] <harisund> holy_cow: Yeah, I agree with that.I really do bow down to the power of apt in that regard.
[06:28] <nickrud> harisund, if you can get one of those machines up to dapper from a warty install, that might help narrow the problem :)
[06:28] <lrojas> :/
[06:28] <KingBahamut> evening all
[06:29] <lrojas> xubuntu?
[06:29] <lrojas> anybody?
[06:29] <blind> how do you get transparent windows in ubuntu?
[06:29] <lrojas> also (how can i eliminate the ubuntu user and create my own user and others to use the machine? )
[06:30] <nickrud> harisund, I've pointed a few people at ubotu, but warty's fallen off I see
[06:30] <mram> lrojas: sorry man i am gnome lover ;-)
[06:31] <slavik> lrojas: what do you mean "eliminate the ubuntu user" ?
[06:31] <rob138> is there a way in snome to access daap shares through nautilus?
[06:32] <slavik> lrojas: to create users, look into passw I think
[06:32] <harisund_> nickrud and holy_cow, I got disconnected...sorry about that.. anyway, nickrud could you point me towards a wiki link?
[06:32] <slavik> !daap
[06:32] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[06:32] <lrojas> well, ubuntu ( i only have tested the live cd and am prepping to install thge real oine ) comes with a default user ( ubuntu ) and i would like to get asked for what user name to use
[06:32] <slavik> ahh
[06:32] <zhenre> how does one get mp3 working with rhythmbox (works fine with mpg123)
[06:32] <slavik> lrojas: when you install it should ask to create a user account ...
[06:32] <zhenre> and xmms
[06:33] <slavik> !restricted
[06:33] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:33] <slavik> zhenre: follow that link
[06:33] <nickrud> harisund, there was one, a sec ( I was away )
[06:33] <rob138> slavik, so no luck huh
[06:34] <chip42> Irojas: its a live cd... of course it is going to come with a default user :p
[06:34] <chip42> bleh
[06:34] <zhenre> slavik: thanks! it worked like a charm
[06:35] <harisund_> nickrud: Don't bother.. I searched the Ubuntu forums, and found the links.
[06:35] <lrojas> hmmm
[06:35] <harisund_> nickrud: Thanks though.
[06:35] <nickrud> harisund, good, cuz I was about to say I have no clue :)
[06:35] <lrojas> how about regarding xubuntu? anybody has any experience using it?
[06:35] <dabaR> !anyone
[06:35] <ubotu> a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:35] <harisund_> nickrud: No problem. Anyway, the wiki suggests I upgrade to Hoary first, and then Breezy. So I guess I will be going that route only.
[06:36] <slavik> rob138: with what?
[06:36] <blind> Can I watch .wmv's on ubuntu? I thought VLC could run any format?
[06:36] <slavik> blind: try totem
[06:36] <dabaR> ubotu: no, anyone is a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[06:36] <ubotu> dabaR: okay
[06:36] <chiche> hehe, somebody could
[06:36] <carthik> blind, I can, you need the proper codecs
[06:36] <blind> slavik: where can i get decoders for totem? I can't run anything in totem
[06:37] <blind> carthik: codecs for VLC?
[06:37] <rob138> with !daap
[06:37] <dabaR> blind: some wmv has encryption that can not be decoded
[06:37] <slavik> oh
[06:37] <no_no_no> okay.. another question... if im setting up ltsp clients and they cant network boot.. i need to put a boot loader like grub on the HD....
[06:37] <slavik> what's daap? someone else was asking about it
[06:37] <no_no_no> does that mean i cant use the HD for anything else?
[06:37] <lrojas> ubotu: well my question is self explanatory, i am looking for someone who had installed xubuntu, i am curios as to what method should i choose, since the iso images are the recomended way but are basede on the next ( beta ) release
[06:37] <ubotu> lrojas: okay
[06:37] <dabaR> no_no_no: did you ask in #edubuntu
[06:37] <carthik> blind, I answered the first of your questions.
[06:37] <slavik> !tell blind about restricted
[06:37] <blind> possible to run WMP through wine? :D
[06:37] <no_no_no> is that a channel?
[06:37] <dabaR> ubotu: tell lrojas about uvotu
[06:37] <no_no_no> oh it is.. thanks for your help.
[06:38] <dabaR> no_no_no: edubuntu.org
[06:38] <slavik> !deskbar
[06:38] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[06:38] <lrojas> *sigh*
[06:38] <carthik> blind, use mplayer with codecs-essential and w32codecs - which is what I do. There are files I can open that my windows user friend cannot :) (which is just awesome, I tell you)
[06:38] <slavik> brb
[06:38] <cliche> lol
[06:38] <no_no_no> yall are great help... im reading the wiki and faq
[06:38] <dabaR> lrojas: there are isos maybe for breezy. do9 you have ubuntu installed?
[06:39] <dabaR> no_no_no: no, no, no, we suck.
[06:39] <mpg456> hi
[06:39] <no_no_no> :)
[06:39] <Sniper00X> i'm trying to install breezy amd64 from cd and it keeps failing at the same location ... load additional components .. any ideas?
[06:39] <blind> carthik: alright, I'll give it a whirl. downloading the w32codecs now.
[06:39] <Sniper00X> i have tried multiple cds
[06:39] <cliche> no_no_no, no no_no_no
[06:39] <Sniper00X> and checked their integrity
[06:39] <no_no_no> im confused.
[06:39] <no_no_no> :/
[06:39] <mpg456> hi folks
[06:39] <dabaR> cliche: that is a total cliche
[06:39] <cliche> hehe
[06:39] <mpg456> could someone pls help me?
[06:40] <cliche> I doubt
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> and the problem is?
[06:40] <dabaR> !helpme
[06:40] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:40] <no_no_no> i can follow directions.. but even the help and faqs are wirtten for engineers. I dunno even how to use a floppy on this thing.
[06:40] <mpg456> im having trouble in running mpg123 on background
[06:40] <dabaR> no_no_no: nice. which one do you not understand and which part?
[06:40] <cliche> ! tell me about smart questions
[06:40] <ubotu> cliche: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:41] <mpg456> im runnung it via cron... and it runs...
[06:41] <slavik> back
[06:41] <carthik> mpg456, try mpg123 <whatever> &
[06:41] <mpg456> but it dies right away
[06:41] <no_no_no> well Im following this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowtoNAT
[06:41] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  any luck on finding the module for D-Link Ethernet?  don't mean to be a pest, but am getting drowsy.
[06:41] <mpg456> this is the line
[06:41] <carthik> mpg456, the "&" at the end is important
[06:41] <mpg456> mpg123 -z --list playlist &
[06:41] <cliche> D-Link sucks
[06:41] <mpg456> and it dies....
[06:41] <dabaR> mpg456: nohup mpg123 blah&
[06:41] <dabaR> heh
[06:41] <cliche> especialy, usb wireless device (b/g)
[06:41] <sethk> SimplyFlower, give me that model number again?
[06:42] <mpg456> I'm using the same script on suse and it works T_T
[06:42] <dabaR> mpg456: come back to ask how to kill it.
[06:42] <Sniper00X> any ideas on why i'm getting "problem reading data from cd-rom" at "load installer componets from cd" stage?
[06:42] <carthik> dabaR, you're evil.
[06:42] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  DFE-500TX PCI
[06:42] <N2DIY> I can't play DVDs, I keep getting libdvdcss errors, ideas?
[06:42] <Apostle^> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss
[06:42] <dabaR> carthik: :( >:[
[06:43] <cliche> SimplyFlower, are you using the D-Link usb wireless bar?
[06:43] <Apostle^> also libdvdread3-dev
[06:43] <Apostle^> also libdvdread3
[06:43] <jmoncayo> sethk, how can i make a button with anjuta
[06:43] <N2DIY> I did that last nigh, now I'm rebooting in case something needs to stick?
[06:43] <jmoncayo> where do i find the labels and that stuff
[06:43] <sethk> jmoncayo, that's the GUI builder part
[06:43] <sethk> SimplyFlower, that's USB, wireless?
[06:44] <slavik> jmoncayo: anjuta does not build a GUI, Glade does
[06:44] <slavik> sethk: you try anjuta2 beta?
[06:44] <sethk> slavik, not yet
[06:44] <Sniper00X> !helpme
[06:44] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:44] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  no it's not wireless its my ethernet card installed into my computer
[06:44] <sethk> slavik, have you?
[06:44] <sethk> simplydazed, ok
[06:44] <slavik> I did, had trouble
[06:45] <jmoncayo> slavik, so anjuta is only a c/c++ IDE but not a gui builder?
[06:45] <slavik> firstly I couldn't compile it with 3 plugins
[06:45] <slavik> jmoncayo: correct
[06:45] <r3dick> Hello,  Can any point me to a site or page where I might find info on a 686 keyboard not working problem
[06:45] <slash> hi guys
[06:45] <slavik> jmoncayo: anjuta uses glade to build GUI
[06:45] <slash> I have a question
[06:45] <crimsun> r3dick: please answer my question from -devel.
[06:45] <cliche> lol
[06:45] <cliche> anjuta +1
[06:45] <slavik> sethk: then, I tried to open a file and the text wouldn't be rendered properly
[06:45] <sethk> SimplyFlower, what speed?  10? 100? 1000?
[06:45] <slash> how do I configure services on ubuntu?
[06:45] <user01> is the #debian channel open?
[06:45] <thatGuy_> does anyone here use expocity?
[06:45] <jmoncayo> slavik, is glade like delphi?
[06:45] <thatGuy_> mine doesn't seem to be working right
[06:45] <sethk> slavik, well, it is beta  :)
[06:46] <slavik> user01: yes, but don't ask them ubuntu question
[06:46] <thatGuy_> its taking forever to display windows
[06:46] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  100
[06:46] <cliche> user01, #debian has too many users
[06:46] <N2DIY> libdvdcss, ribdvdread3-dev and libdvdread3 are all in the same package?
[06:46] <r3dick> crimsun I did not see ur question could you please ask again.
[06:46] <slavik> sethk: yes, and I think it compiling and running (without crashing) is already a big start ;)
[06:46] <dabaR> slavik: remember that? Do you think a lot of people still go there for Ubuntu questions?
[06:46] <thatGuy_> i'm wondering where i can go to configure to configure its settings and settings for metacity
[06:46] <slavik> jmoncayo: delphi is a language, I think.
[06:46] <user01> #debian unable to join channel (address is banned)
[06:46] <sethk> SimplyFlower, I found the 550, but not the 500 yet.  I'm still looking
[06:46] <user01> ah ok that explains it
[06:46] <crimsun> r3dick: 23:42 < crimsun> only 2.6.15-21.32-686 ? 23:42 < crimsun> as in 2.6.15-21.32-386 works fine?
[06:46] <slavik> dabaR: I wasn't here during that time, but the topic still says 'this is not #ubuntu'
[06:46] <cliche> slavik, delphi is a city
[06:47] <slash> somebody?
[06:47] <slavik> cliche: in greece
[06:47] <SimplyFlower> sethk: ok, thank you... will be waiting
[06:47] <jmoncayo> slavik, is glade another language or is c/c++ gui builder?
[06:47] <sethk> SimplyFlower, did you have the chipset for that?
[06:47] <cliche> slavik, + old greece
[06:47] <slavik> jmoncayo: it is a builder
[06:47] <Nafai> Is there a reason that I would still be getting British spellings in my dialog boxes (like colours in the desktop background properties) when I have English (United States) selected in Language Support.   I'm running Dapper
[06:47] <sethk> SimplyFlower, I think you said, but there is so much info flying by ....
[06:47] <slavik> jmoncayo: glade spits out the proper code for the gui
[06:47] <slavik> using gtk framework
[06:47] <ic56> slash: which services?
[06:47] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  DECchip 21142/43
[06:47] <ic56> !services
[06:47] <ubotu> I heard services is to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/
[06:47] <slavik> cliche: old greece is called delphi?
[06:47] <slash> ic56: anything
[06:48] <slash> ah.. sysvconfig
[06:48] <slash> may rcconf :)
[06:48] <slash> may be.. going to try that ;)
[06:48] <slash> ubotu: thanks
[06:48] <ubotu> slash: no problem
[06:48] <jmoncayo> slavik, so glade is another programming language?
[06:48] <slavik> jmoncayo:
[06:48] <user01> cliche: so if i got #debian unable to join channel (address is banned) that doesnt mean i was banned then...
[06:48] <cliche> glade = ogl-like?
[06:48] <slash> err... rcconf no such command
[06:49] <slash> which package is that?
[06:49] <slavik> gtk
[06:49] <jmoncayo> slavik, have you used c/c++ builder?
[06:49] <slavik> jmoncayo: have you ever used Visual Basic?
[06:49] <cliche> borland?
[06:49] <slash> ah.. ok :)
[06:49] <no_no_no> what is initrd?
[06:49] <r3dick> crimsun I dont believe I have the 21.32 kernel.  when I uname it  it comes back 15-21.  and yes the 386 works fine.  I do get a i8042 error on the 686 boot.
[06:50] <jmoncayo> slavik, yes i have, but now in college i am using c/c++ builder, so i am looking for some program that does that stuff
[06:50] <cliche> is Borland still alive?
[06:50] <thatGuy_> can i get some help with metacity
[06:50] <no_no_no> omg. ramdisk.
[06:50] <slavik> jmoncayo: remember making the GUI in Visual Basic?
[06:50] <jmoncayo> like i have c/c++ for windows and i have c/c++ for linux
[06:50] <slavik> that is what Glade does.
[06:50] <slavik> right
[06:50] <slash> thanks guys
[06:50] <cliche> "C++ is the ONE"
[06:50] <slavik> jmoncayo: are you looking for something like Visual C 6?
[06:51] <thatGuy_> this is locking up my computer everytime i hit alt+tab, which i do habitually
[06:51] <slavik> cliche: C++ is D actually
[06:51] <jmoncayo> slavik, yes but i dont know if you understand me
[06:51] <cliche> "C# is ... nothing"
[06:51] <crimsun> r3dick: you're running 21.32 if you have 2.6.15-21-x86
[06:51] <slavik> jmoncayo: I don't, you either want a GUI builder (Glade) or an IDE (Anjuta)
[06:51] <slavik> IDE = Integrated Development Environment
[06:51] <cliche> oww, I remember
[06:51] <jmoncayo> slavik, i mean if i write a program in c i can copy the code and make the same program in linux
[06:51] <slavik> IDE is the text editor that allows you to compile in one button press
[06:51] <blind> carthik, running this wmv in mplayer now works, but it's unbelievably choppy. anything I can do about that?
[06:51] <sethk> SimplyFlower, you want the de4x5 driver
[06:51] <Tarka> Does anyone know if there are nightly builds of Dapper?
[06:51] <slavik> jmoncayo: right
[06:52] <cliche> glade = a GUI builder like the Delphi's ?
[06:52] <slavik> jmoncayo: did you do apt-get install build-essential yet?
[06:52] <jmoncayo> slavik, yes
[06:52] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  where do i get it and how do i install it?
[06:52] <slavik> cliche: never used delphi, but glade is a gui builder that spits out gtk c/c++ code
[06:52] <slavik> jmoncayo: good
[06:52] <carthik> blind, change the video output option and restart mplayer, till one works. I forgot which one is the one that works best, perhaps XV ?
[06:52] <blind> I'll try it.
[06:52] <slavik> jmoncayo: what did you use on windows for write your programs?
[06:52] <cliche> *sigh*, Delphis WAS amazing
[06:53] <sethk> SimplyFlower, you already have it, because it's part of the standard kernel
[06:53] <N2DIY> Ok, I shutdown the box, brought it back up and Totem is still complaining about not having libdvdcss to play DVDs?
[06:53] <daddius> i would like to run emacs off a server but for some reason my display vairable won't work... any clue?
[06:53] <jmoncayo> slavik, now i mae a program gui in windows with c/c++ builder, and i want to copy the same code and make a gui program in linux
[06:53] <slavik> jmoncayo: that might not be possible
[06:53] <jmoncayo> slavik, for gui i use delphi 7 and c/c++ builder
[06:53] <sethk> SimplyFlower, the question is:  Is it compiled as a module and not inserted into the kernel, or is it not compiled?  In the latter case you need to do a kernel build.  In the former case you only need to do insmod
[06:53] <r3dick> crimsun OK I did not know that piece of info.  Today is my first time using chat so I am still working on learning protocol and functioning of xchat.  Thank you for answering my query even on wrong channel.
[06:53] <mpg123> hi
[06:53] <slavik> c/c++ builder ... I don't get that term
[06:54] <cliche> C++ builder > Visual C++
[06:54] <mpg123> nohup mpg123 -z --list playlist also dies
[06:54] <daddius> what is a c/c++ builder?  a compiler?
[06:54] <jmoncayo> slavik, is a program to make gui with c/c++ code
[06:54] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  how do i know which it is or find out
[06:54] <cliche> daddius, a compiler bondle
[06:54] <sethk> SimplyFlower, I'm trying to find the module file name
[06:55] <jmoncayo> slavik, like i want to use Application.Terminate(); in one button can i use that command or is a different one in glade
[06:55] <cliche> daddius, C/C++/Delphi compilers + GUI builder + ....
[06:55] <slavik> jmoncayo: then you want glade
[06:55] <slavik> jmoncayo: I don't know
[06:55] <slavik> glade only builds the gui
[06:55] <sethk> SimplyFlower, the docs say the driver name is de4x5.ko
[06:55] <daddius> cliche, how about emacs and gcc?
[06:55] <sethk> SimplyFlower, so, cd to /lib/modules
[06:56] <slavik> jmoncayo: look into gtk, tht is what glade uses
[06:56] <sethk> then do this:   find . -name '*de4x5*' -print
[06:56] <cliche> daddius, they are articles
[06:56] <dabaR> daddius: install build-essential
[06:56] <jmoncayo> slavik, well delphi 7 does the same thing but you can make code for the button for example with pascal code
[06:56] <crimsun> r3dick: ok, where does it fail to boot?
[06:56] <cliche> daddius, nano+hexedit+gcc is enough
[06:56] <slavik> I don't think Glade would allow you to do it
[06:57] <sethk> SimplyFlower, the directory from my original ubuntu install has the file
[06:57] <slavik> cliche: hexedit isn't nice ... text rendering is off
[06:57] <daddius> cliche, how is nano?
[06:57] <jmoncayo> slavik, is gtk like a programming language?
[06:57] <dabaR> jmoncayo: or monodevelop+gtk#
[06:57] <daddius> gtk program lang is c
[06:57] <sethk> jmoncayo, gtk is a set of libraries
[06:57] <cliche> nano/ee is good
[06:58] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, just run "modprobe de4x5", the card should come up.
[06:58] <sethk> jmoncayo, you access them typically with c++ although you can use other languages as well
[06:58] <sethk> N2DIY, that's true
[06:58] <jmoncayo> oki
[06:58] <sethk> N2DIY, I think he's gone
[06:58] <cliche> who?
[06:58] <sethk> N2DIY, ingrate  :)
[06:58] <daddius> cliche, since at my job we have emacs on all servers so i figure i spend some time learning it.. I hate the lack of indenting on it
[06:59] <N2DIY> sethk, who's gone?
[06:59] <sethk> daddius, emacs has the best indenting of any editor
[06:59] <sethk> N2DIY, simplyflower
[06:59] <slavik> daddius: emacs indents :)
[06:59] <pip_> how to install mono ?
[06:59] <cliche> daddius, :)
[06:59] <SimplyFlower> sethk: give me a minute... have to change computers again brb
[06:59] <sethk> daddius, it has totally configurable smart indenting for dozens of languages
[06:59] <slavik> sethk: maybe that is a problem :P
[06:59] <N2DIY> sethk, nope.
[06:59] <daddius> sethk, it indents true..  but out of the box it doesn't indent.. also i got it to indent with c++ but now i can't indent with perl. :-(
[07:00] <newbuntu> whats the best way to rip a dvd to your harddrive?
[07:00] <ic56> daddius: emacs is programmable.  You can make it do anything, including toast (assuming your toaster is networked).
[07:00] <slavik> sethk: do you know if there is a way to install anjuta 2.0 along side with 1.2?
[07:00] <cliche> daddius, you words suit for the program dummies
[07:00] <sethk> daddius, it has c++, c, perl, java, out of the box
[07:00] <daddius> true
[07:00] <r3dick> crimsun, after line loading linux comes the error i8042.c cant read CTR while init i8042.  Then continues booting to login prompt.  by the way I removed splash from menu.lst to see errors if any.
[07:00] <sethk> daddius, you just need to say M-x perl-mode
[07:00] <PORDO> i'm logged into a machine where i'm trying to change my password with passwd, and it keeps complaining that my password is a reverse dictionary word, or too short, or whatever.  isn't there some way to override this BS?!
[07:00] <daddius> not indenting.. perhaps i am wrong..
[07:00] <sethk> PORDO, sudo passwd username
[07:01] <sethk> PORDO, e.g.  sudo passwd pordo  (if your user name happens to be pordo)
[07:01] <z0rz> Hey I just installed a lamp server but when I try to view a php file.. in firefox... it tries to download the php file instead of vieweing it
[07:01] <crimsun> r3dick: wait, the system boots fine with -686?
[07:01] <sethk> PORDO, root can override the rules
[07:01] <daddius> sethk, mmmmm M-x perl-mode?   now is that the meta key?
[07:01] <cliche> daddius, emacs is made in korea
[07:01] <daddius> le tme try now
[07:01] <z0rz> Is that because I don't have php loaded in apache.. or is it because I don't have the right MIME types setup in apache?
[07:01] <FilipinoDXB> what's the terminal command to access my Windows partition? it can be seen by my browser.
[07:01] <daddius> cliche, figure it was gnu
[07:01] <sethk> daddius, esc-x  or alt-x
[07:01] <z0rz> Anyone?
[07:02] <slavik> FilipinoDXB: cd is what changed the current directry
[07:02] <arrick> Did IdleOne change his/her name?
[07:02] <cliche> daddius, because it has anything, just not to come ture yet
[07:02] <daddius> sethk, I solute you ... I can see all the perl modes... now if I could only get this working
[07:02] <cliche> daddius, hahahaha
[07:02] <daddius> also everyone i tend to run X and like to ssh into systems at work and do things..
[07:03] <daddius> but i found out that i can't do it with ubuntu
[07:03] <daddius> i did it with cygwin
[07:03] <sethk> daddius, sure you can
[07:03] <no_no_no> yay i found help: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe
[07:03] <daddius> but hey screw cygwin
[07:03] <sethk> daddius, I do it all the time
[07:03] <daddius> i did the xhost + thing
[07:03] <daddius> to disable all hosts and what not
[07:03] <sethk> daddius, I use the same .ssh directory in cygwin and ubuntu
[07:03] <daddius> but when i say something like export display=$ssh_connection:0.0
[07:03] <daddius> doesn't wokr
[07:03] <daddius> work
[07:03] <cliche> lol
[07:04] <ic56> daddius: display should be uppercase
[07:04] <daddius> sorry i install ubuntu on a 710m laptop and i got big hands
[07:04] <daddius> lol
[07:04] <r3dick> crimsun,  It boots to the login but the keyboard and mouse are dead, like no interrupts are being generated.  I am guessing between the 386 which does not have the i8042 error and the keyboard mouse work and the 686 which displays error and keyboard is dead is an indication to someone who know about the kernel might point me to how to figure out whats wrong
[07:04] <skpl> can someone tell me why when i re-install ubuntu previous installations show up on my grub boot menu?
[07:04] <daddius> ic56, yes i didn't want to be disrespectful in irc
[07:04] <mrgenixus> looking for a way to configure alsa for ac '97 sound  (i810 flavor) on a debina-based liveCD (gnome 2.12-live) the card is recognized and identified by lspci, but alsamizer returns 'function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or directory' and while the gentoo manual indicates thi can be correcte by running alsaconf this appears to be a gentoo-only tool, since I can't find it on this CD
[07:05] <daddius> i am woundering if there is someting blocking my accesss... or is it my .ssh directory
[07:05] <daddius> mmm
[07:05] <cliche> mmmmmm
[07:05] <tapox> Hi everyone, I'm being annoyed by a usability quirk that Ubuntu has, and I'm wondering if I should file a bug for it.
[07:05] <tapox> It
[07:05] <tapox> *It's just so small, I'm not sure if filing a report is worth it.
[07:06] <daddius> the only thing i have against it
[07:06] <arrick> ubotu tell tapox about fixres
[07:06] <daddius> ubuntu
[07:06] <daddius> is the wireless part
[07:06] <tapox> Oh, nevermind, it was my pwn problem.
[07:06] <Madpilot> tapox, what's the bug?
[07:06] <daddius> i didn't know wha network i was on
[07:06] <daddius> but i fix with some wireless radar program and all is fine
[07:06] <skpl> can someone tell me why when i re-install ubuntu previous installations show up on my grub boot menu?
[07:06] <sethk> daddius, I don't know, but I have password-less login from ubunto to fedora, to slackware, to other ubuntu of course
[07:06] <daddius> yeah
[07:06] <RobyX> Anyone know where I can find a download for  sun-j2re1.5 everything is down.
[07:06] <sethk> daddius, and logging into ubuntu from slackware and fedora and cygwin
[07:06] <arrick> skpl, cause you didnt delet the original partition
[07:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell RobyX about javadebs
[07:07] <sethk> RobyX, java.sun.com
[07:07] <Iceman_> Anyone know a place to get Nextstep or Openstep ... Operating systems ?
[07:07] <daddius> sethk, i can login fine.. the thing is I would like to fire up emacs..
[07:07] <daddius> sethk, I really need to work on getting a passwdless access
[07:07] <skpl> arrick, yes i did. and they no longer show up in the ubuntu partitioner
[07:08] <arrick> skpl, are you dual booting?
[07:08] <N2DIY> sethk, I guess it worked? Or Flower would have been back by now?
[07:08] <tapox> Madpilot: I wanted some more screen space, and so I made the Ubuntu panel act somewhat like Windows'. However, whenever I aim blindly by moving the mouse to the bottom left corner and click, the Ubuntu logo's hit radius is so small that I need to focus my attention on it.
[07:08] <sethk> N2DIY, hope so
[07:08] <sethk> daddius, are you using ssh with -X ?
[07:08] <skpl> arrick, yes
[07:08] <mpg123> hi
[07:08] <mpg123> pipz
[07:08] <N2DIY> sethk, Roger roger.
[07:09] <Madpilot> tapox, use the multiple desktop feature - the four grey boxes in the lower-right corner - for more space
[07:09] <daddius> yes
[07:09] <arrick> skpl, you need to rewrite the grub cause with dual boot, it only adds the new grub to it
[07:09] <mpg123> i need help pls
[07:09] <daddius> sethk, yes ssh -X
[07:09] <daddius> let me try again
[07:09] <sethk> daddius, I run emacs on all my boxes
[07:09] <pip_> anyone who uses mono ?
[07:09] <obaketenshi> Hi, all. I have an iBook G3, and recently installed Breezy. I can't get it to sleep properly - or rather, it sleeps,l but it won't wake up. Anyone have any suggestions?
[07:09] <sethk> daddius, you must have a configuration parameter not quite right
[07:09] <pip_> I need help
[07:09] <dabaR> pip_: for what?
[07:09] <cliche> pip_, is mono still alive?
[07:09] <mpg123> any one knows why mpg123 dies when run under cron?
[07:09] <arrick> !ask
[07:09] <obaketenshi> I'm not sure if I need to patch he kernel or not
[07:09] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[07:09] <tapox> Madpilot: I'd just like more room for a single web browser window. It isn't an issue of many windows open at once.
[07:09] <arrick> !enter
[07:09] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:10] <mpg123> pls
[07:10] <daddius> sethk, i am thinking it must be that
[07:10] <pip_> cliche, yes
[07:10] <daddius> i have a debian box here i should try it
[07:10] <N2DIY> sethk, but now she/he needs to install the command in /etc/modules, no?
[07:10] <pip_> cliche, mono is a project ,do you know ?
[07:10] <tapox> Madpilot: Is there any way to bind the super key to open the GNOME main menu?
[07:10] <cliche> pip_, only in the ms?
[07:10] <sethk> N2DIY, yes, I'm sure
[07:10] <mpg123> anyone?
[07:10] <pip_> dabaR, Do you use mono ?
[07:10] <no_no_no> okay dumb question... how do i use a floppy disk?
[07:10] <ic56> mpg123: what command line are you using?
[07:10] <cliche> pip_, ha ha ha ha
[07:10] <dabaR> for what?
[07:10] <mpg123> anyone have any idea why mpg123 dies when runned under cron?
[07:10] <pip_> cliche, no,it is for many platforms
[07:11] <no_no_no> im trying to do : ./install.s
[07:11] <mpg123> mpg123 -z --list playlist
[07:11] <dabaR> no_no_no: you put it in, right? Maybe you will have to mount it:-/
[07:11] <Nafai> Is there a place other than the Language Selector in System -> Administration where the language choice is set?
[07:11] <pip_> cliche, can you help me ? if you use mono
[07:11] <mpg123> it runs on bash though
[07:11] <holy_cow> no_no_no, put the floppy in, select places/computer
[07:11] <no_no_no> and it says : mknod : 'dev... permission denied
[07:11] <Madpilot> tapox, I think there is, but I've never done it myself
[07:11] <dabaR> Nafai: login screen
[07:11] <mpg123> ive put it also in a script....
[07:11] <cliche> pip_, I am waiting for the FREE mono
[07:11] <dabaR> mpg123: nohup?
[07:11] <mpg123> and it runs... but when the script is runned under cron.. it dies though
[07:11] <ic56> mpg123: how did you setup cron to run the command?
[07:11] <pip_> cliche, it is free
[07:11] <no_no_no> oh nevermind.. sudo
[07:11] <tapox> Madpilot: Okay, thanks anyway.
[07:11] <mrgenixus> is there a support chan for the gnome 2.12 live?
[07:11] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, Hello, how'd did it work out?
[07:11] <holy_cow> no_no_no, that script is trying to create a node in /dev ... why are you running that? what will it accomplish?
[07:11] <cliche> pip_, free beer != freedom
[07:12] <mpg123> * * * * * username mpg123 -z --list playlist &
[07:12] <no_no_no> its installing tomsrtbt
[07:12] <Madpilot> tapox, so far, I've just put up with having a totally useless key on my keyboard... :P
[07:12] <no_no_no> onto a floppy
[07:12] <mpg123> and the $path is good
[07:12] <pip_> cliche, I have downloaded mono from its offical webpage ,but I dont knwo how to install it
[07:12] <tapox> no_no_no: Just go into Computer and click on floppy drive. It should mount automatically.
[07:12] <dabaR> cliche: stop that.
[07:12] <Madpilot> pip_, mono is available in ubuntu's repos
[07:12] <pip_> cliche,maybe you are right
[07:12] <cliche> dabaR, stop what?
[07:12] <dabaR> pip_: do you ever use synaptic to install?
[07:12] <no_no_no> it wont mount.. i dunno why
[07:12] <slavik> so, who knows how to install a package along size another package?
[07:12] <mpg123> my logs says it runs mpg123 and starts streaming... then it dies
[07:12] <no_no_no> but itll format
[07:12] <holy_cow> no_no_no, what? it should just write to floppy, i think somethings messed up.  no need for priviledge escelation
[07:12] <dabaR> mpg123: nohup, already.
[07:12] <mpg123> yup
[07:12] <cliche> dabaR, should I disapear like the reporter?
[07:12] <dabaR> mpg123: nohup command & stays running.
[07:12] <ic56> mpg123: so you put this line in a file and you said crontab <file> ?
[07:13] <daddius> cliche, did it again
[07:13] <mpg123> dabaR: yup. ive used nohup also
[07:13] <no_no_no> i think this is how edubuntu sets up this acct
[07:13] <holy_cow> no_no_no, are you sure you have an image to write to a floppy? thats what tombrt usually comes in, use something else to write image to floppy
[07:13] <daddius> unable to set
[07:13] <no_no_no> if i sudo it works
[07:13] <dabaR> cliche: no.
[07:13] <pip_> dabaR, I have downloaded a new version mono which is 1.1.15,but in synaptic there is a 1.1.8,so ...
[07:13] <mpg123> yup... then i change it to a bash script.. and it dies still
[07:13] <holy_cow> no_no_no, why are you using tombsrta anyway? that sounds weird
[07:13] <daddius> in a default install would it have some sort of firewall setup in ubuntu?
[07:13] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i'm back.  i got the message "no such file or directory."  tried the modprobe de4x5 and it didn't do anything... what now?
[07:13] <mpg123> but if i run the bash script it work though
[07:13] <pip_> Madpilot, do you use it ?
[07:13] <slavik> daddius: firewall is in the kerne;
[07:13] <ic56> mpg123: when running things from cron, neither nohup, nor backgrounding via `&' are necessary -- cron does these for you.
[07:13] <Madpilot> pip_, I run a couple of Mono apps - Muine, mostly
[07:14] <sethk> SimplyFlower, that's odd.  you are running with the ubuntu install kernel?
[07:14] <daddius> slavik, could that be it?
[07:14] <daddius> mmmm
[07:14] <no_no_no> im following these instructions : https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe
[07:14] <slavik> daddius: look into firestart (gui for that kernel)
[07:14] <no_no_no> what's dd?
[07:14] <mpg123> ok. but my log says... it starts mpg123 and tries to play a file... then it dies..
[07:14] <sethk> SimplyFlower, because I checked, and it's on all three of my ubuntu boxes
[07:14] <mpg123> is there a possible problem with devices?
[07:14] <dabaR> no_no_no: man dd
[07:14] <obaketenshi> Anyone knowlegable about G3 iBooks and their associated sleep bug?
[07:14] <pip_> Madpilot, how do you find it |?
[07:14] <arrick> !sleep
[07:14] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[07:14] <mpg123> im totaly lost...
[07:14] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i installed breezy using the install cd i made from the install iso.  it worked fine on my other computer
[07:14] <sethk> no_no_no, man dd     a copy program that works at a very low level
[07:15] <dabaR> no_no_no: even a drive is a file.
[07:15] <holy_cow> no_no_no, ah so whats the problem? just follow th einstructions ... they seem correct.  don't forget sudo
[07:15] <no_no_no> ok
[07:15] <tapox> Question 2: I installed a program called Gajim, a jabber IM client. Whenever I login to GNOME, it appears, yet it isn't listed in the things to launch when my session is started. How is this launching?
[07:15] <sethk> SimplyFlower, it works fine on this computer also.  the question is why you don't have that module
[07:15] <Madpilot> pip_, if you just want to run mono apps, try just installing muine - that'll pull down whatever it needs
[07:15] <sethk> SimplyFlower, you might need to reinstall the kernel.  You're sure you typed it as I wrote it?
[07:15] <holy_cow> yes and dd is already on your system for sure, if not install it with synaptic
[07:15] <mpg123> is there a probability that mpg123 could not access alsa or the devices needed to play?
[07:15] <no_no_no> how are you supposed to know or learn all this?
[07:15] <sethk> SimplyFlower, it's the tuplip driver, which is a very common one
[07:16] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, just run "sudo modprobe de4x5", I keep forgetting about Ubuntu's sudo user stuff!
[07:16] <no_no_no> i dont have a CS degree.. i write grants
[07:16] <pip_> Madpilot, I want develop app with mono ,in fact I want to use C#
[07:16] <sethk> no_no_no, you are supposed to learn how to look things up
[07:16] <holy_cow> no_no_no, the same way any kid learns anyone, just osmosis
[07:16] <sethk> no_no_no, for what do you need dd, anyway?
[07:16] <holy_cow> no_no_no, you are mistaken about how much you need to know, it seems overwhelming at first
[07:16] <dabaR> sethk: he posted a link to his instructions.
[07:16] <arrick> no_no_no, you give me a grant and I'll teach yo uhow to use your computer with ubuntu
[07:16] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i typed:  find .-name '*de4x5*' -print
[07:16] <ic56> no_no_no: you can learn by reading the manual.  Start with `man intro'
[07:16] <no_no_no> mkay.
[07:16] <holy_cow> no_no_no, you don't need to knkow too much more than on windows, its just that everyone has 15 years of training on win
[07:16] <no_no_no> what's man?
[07:16] <Madpilot> pip_, hmm, check Synaptic - the developing stuff for mono/C# is all there, but I don't program so I'm not sure what exactly to look for
[07:16] <dabaR> holy_cow: haha
[07:16] <mpg123> can i have a private chat with anyone.. regarding mg mpg123 problem?
[07:17] <Madpilot> no_no_no, manual files
[07:17] <cliche> ...
[07:17] <daddius> can't scan my own port
[07:17] <no_no_no> ahh
[07:17] <dabaR> no_no_no: command in a terminal.
[07:17] <sethk> SimplyFlower, the current directory had to be /lib/modules.   try find /lib/modules -name '*de4x5*' -print
[07:17] <holy_cow> no_no_no, but you do need to know a little bit more than on windows to not remain a tard and do stupid things like install spyware deliberately
[07:17] <holy_cow> >_>
[07:17] <arrick> no_no_no, it pulls up the manual for the program you are trying to use
[07:17] <no_no_no> ahh kewl thanks
[07:17] <cliche> info > man
[07:17] <dabaR> cliche: pah
[07:17] <no_no_no> im trying to set up 7 computers for kids to use in a lab
[07:17] <slavik> holy_cow: how much spyware is written for *nix?
[07:17] <pip_> Madpilot, thanks
[07:17] <no_no_no> they were windows xp home... and it was a mess to keep them up to date
[07:17] <sethk> no_no_no, give that URL again.  I can't imagine why you would need dd
[07:17] <cliche> howto > readme > info > man
[07:18] <slavik> woah!!!!!!!!
[07:18] <dabaR> no_no_no: did you see there is an edubuntu installation CD?
[07:18] <holy_cow> slavik, i just saw a piece of firefox extension that looked like spyware actually
[07:18] <holy_cow> i wish i  had a link
[07:18] <no_no_no> this tech guy wanted to install a pirarted version of windows terminal server
[07:18] <no_no_no> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe
[07:18] <no_no_no> its done with the floppy
[07:18] <slavik> holy_cow: but that is for firefox, not for *nix :P
[07:18] <cliche> the source > howtos
[07:18] <N2DIY> holy_cow, who cares, setup tripwire, and you'll catch em.
[07:18] <no_no_no> i downloaded the edubuntu cd to install it for the SERVER
[07:18] <holy_cow> cross platform ... most windows spyware is trickery surrounding free software, people install it willingly. it will come here too
[07:18] <dabaR> cliche: stop that.
[07:18] <no_no_no> but the clients i need to use a floppy not all have CD
[07:18] <sethk> no_no_no, you want to boot diskless workstations using 10 year old hardware?
[07:19] <no_no_no> 7 years old..yah
[07:19] <arrick> hahahahahahha :^(
[07:19] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i did change directories to /lib/modules before typing find, but will try again... brb
[07:19] <sethk> no_no_no, that is for machines that have no disk at all
[07:19] <no_no_no> they have hard disks.
[07:19] <no_no_no> and floppy
[07:19] <sethk> SimplyFlower, double check, because as I said it is there on all my machines and none of them even have a card of that type
[07:19] <no_no_no> brb
[07:19] <sethk> no_no_no, then those instructions are totally irrelevant
[07:19] <no_no_no> what??
[07:19] <arrick> no_no_no, are these clients in the dumpster?
[07:20] <no_no_no> someone else said they make sense..they seem fine to me
[07:20] <no_no_no> client in the dumpster?
[07:20] <sethk> no_no_no, pxe is a protocol for booting diskless workstations from a network server
[07:20] <no_no_no> no theyre P4 1.4 GHz with 256 MB
[07:20] <no_no_no> they dont have PXE
[07:20] <holy_cow> 7 yaer old systems are still quite powrfull
[07:20] <sethk> no_no_no, are you trying to do a network install, perhaps?
[07:20] <no_no_no> no!
[07:20] <holy_cow> i have a whole bunch of 1ghz machines, throw enough ram into them and they are fine
[07:20] <no_no_no> i know what im trying to do.
[07:20] <dabaR> sethk. no_no_no: heh
[07:20] <arrick> no_no_no, you know a cd rom doesnt run very much, and you can move it from pc to pc right?
[07:21] <no_no_no> its keeping them all administered thats the problem
[07:21] <dabaR> arrick: nice
[07:21] <sethk> no_no_no, the link you posted is about network booting
[07:21] <sethk> no_no_no, if you don't want to do network booting, you don't need to understand those instructions
[07:21] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  found it this time.  now what?
[07:22] <holy_cow> its clear we need some sort of gui with step 1, 2, 3 instructions for things like this
[07:22] <holy_cow> *hmm*
[07:22] <no_no_no> okay.. if thats not what i want to do then tell me what its called?
[07:22] <sethk> SimplyFlower, did you try the modprobe command?
[07:22] <holy_cow> no_no_no, what re you trying to do exactly? i'm confused now
[07:22] <no_no_no> i have 7 lab computers
[07:22] <no_no_no> i want kids to be able to sign in with their name
[07:22] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i did but will try again... brb
[07:22] <arrick> no_no_no, I wasnt ehre when you posted your question, exactly what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:22] <no_no_no> and have  a place for their files no matter which computer they are on
[07:22] <no_no_no> and it looks the same wherever
[07:23] <sethk> SimplyFlower, you may have to use insmod with the full file name  (the name you found with the find command)
[07:23] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, you found the module? Then do "modprobe module name".
[07:23] <sethk> no_no_no, you just need NFS
[07:23] <arrick> yep
[07:23] <holy_cow> i think he is trying to run thinclients, which makes the most sense actually
[07:23] <no_no_no> whats the difference between LTPS and NFS and where's a guide on how to do that
[07:23] <holy_cow> i wouldn't install anything locally
[07:24] <holy_cow> nfs is basically a full install with your /home mounted over network
[07:24] <arrick> !nfs
[07:24] <ubotu> I heard nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:24] <holy_cow> ltsp is a thinclient ... all the software is on the server, the client machine boots everything over the network, like you seem to be trying to setup
[07:24] <no_no_no> that means i only have to maintain one machine?
[07:24] <holy_cow> correct
[07:25] <no_no_no> then thats what i want!
[07:25] <no_no_no> i dont care about the computers its the time spent keeping them in working order
[07:25] <arrick> !ltsp
[07:25] <ubotu> I heard ltsp is the Linux Terminal Server Project - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (for Breezy), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo (pre Breezy).  See also http://www.ltsp.org/
[07:25] <slavik> ok, sethk want to help me do a good thing?
[07:25] <no_no_no> i have those up.. thanks :)
[07:25] <arrick> np
[07:25] <N2DIY> What's ubotu mean?
[07:25] <slavik> N2DIY: nothing actually
[07:25] <no_no_no> is there someway to setup a default desktop and have each kids account start out like that?
[07:26] <arrick> People Freedom, see www.ubuntu.com
[07:26] <slavik> arrick: he meant ubotu, not ubuntu :P
[07:26] <holy_cow> no_no_no, i've not setup thinclients my self so i cant help you, closest i did something like that was setting up remote access to xsessions via nomachine.com software
[07:26] <no_no_no> ahh
[07:26] <arrick> N2DIY, ubotu is a bot, that gives out info, sorry, been up too long
[07:27] <mpeg123> anyone
[07:27] <arrick> !ask
[07:27] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[07:27] <mpeg123> any idea about mpg123 running on background?
[07:27] <arrick> slavik, yeah i cought that as my eyes started watering
[07:27] <slavik> heh
[07:27] <slavik> arrick: want to do a good thing?
[07:28] <arrick> Im working on a @#$$#^* windows xp box for a client right now
[07:28] <arrick> slavik, whats that?
[07:28] <holy_cow> no_no_no, plug away at it, the biggest problem is just having the network card driver for your thinclients available on the bootdisk ... which is what you are trying to do, those instructions look right to me
[07:28] <holy_cow> the rest is just configuring a bit the network settings and off you go
[07:28] <slavik> arrick: build anjuta 2.0.1 with all 3 plugins and make sure that it doesn'toverwrite anjuta 1.2... :D
[07:28] <slavik> and give me the deb
[07:28] <arrick> haha
[07:29] <no_no_no> http://www.rom-o-matic.net/
[07:29] <mpeg123> can anyone help me pls?
[07:29] <slavik> !mpg123
[07:29] <no_no_no> this place lets you put the driver on a floppy after you format the HD with the other tool
[07:29] <mpeg123> ?
[07:29] <arrick> slavik, write a bot for it, they are cool
[07:29] <mpeg123> slavik, ?
[07:29] <slavik> hmm
[07:29] <holy_cow> cool, i've not heard of that before
[07:29] <slavik> !tell mpeg123 about mpg123
[07:30] <N2DIY> mpeg123, no, we can't, you have to ask a question first. If you already did, it has scrolled off my screen, sorry.
[07:30] <arrick> mpeg123, just ask your question, if someone know they will answer
[07:30] <Double_D> anyone: i'm having some trouble getting the right resolution options for my monitor.  i know my monitor will support 1600x1200, but can't seem to get that option to show up.  any ideas?
[07:30] <arrick> !fixres
[07:30] <ubotu> it has been said that fixres is Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:30] <Double_D> thanks, arrick.
[07:31] <arrick> np :6)
[07:31] <arrick> :6)
[07:31] <N2DIY> Bouble_D, go to/system/preferences/screen resolution, and play there.
[07:32] <mpeg123> my problem is that i have this script that i put on cron
[07:32] <mpeg123> it should run mpg123....
[07:32] <arrick> hey slavik you want to setup a recoding wtudio box for me, while i do all my projects I have here?
[07:32] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i'm back.  tried several times but got the same message:  FATAL: Module de4x5.ko not found.  even tried including the directory and changed into the directory.  now what?
[07:32] <arrick> studio eve
[07:32] <mpeg123> it runs the script but dies when it starts streaming an mp3 file
[07:34] <arrick> Night guys
[07:34] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, loose the .ko on the command, or try .o If that doesn't work try using "insmod" and then the module name.
[07:34] <sethk> SimplyFlower, instead, do   insmod /full/path/to/de4x5.ko
[07:34] <Double_D> N2DIY: way ahead of ya on that one.
[07:35] <SimplyFlower> N2DIY and sethk:  will try.... brb
[07:35] <nickrud> arrick, we're all still here, just watching you :)
[07:35] <Double_D> N2DIY: only have three options there and not the ones I want.  i've put the horiz and vert sync that's correct for my monitor into the xorg.conf file and restarted X, but says the frequency is out of range.
[07:35] <mpeg123> does anyone have any idea?
[07:36] <ic56> mpg123: you must give us more details.
[07:36] <Double_D> anyone: when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i get to the part to select resolutions, what's the actual key to press to select/deselect a resolution?
[07:37] <N2DIY> Bouble_D, Ok, try Ctrl+Alt+(+or-), and see if that works for you?
[07:37] <starkes> hey, would anyone out there know why azureus would report that my connection is firewalled and not work whatsoever, but bittornado seems to work fine?
[07:37] <Double_D> N2DIY: aso, thanks.  i'm gonna get to a VT quick and try that.  brb (hopefully in 1600x1200).
[07:37] <starkes> also, with identical settings on my windows partition, azureus works fine. same version and everything.
[07:38] <holy_cow> poor guy googled the wrong refresh rates for his moni
[07:38] <holy_cow> heh
[07:39] <Guest309> HI
[07:39] <N2DIY> holy_cow, I hope not, that is a good way to burn down your house!
[07:40] <skpl> is there any way to remove the words from my gnome menu, so that there is just the ubuntu logo?
[07:41] <nickrud> skpl, not without hacking the applet code probably
[07:41] <holy_cow> N2DIY, well, x does the whatever calculations automatically now (i guess for quite a few years now), it's been a while since one was able to start a fire that way :)
[07:42] <aaron__> heya... what is ./
[07:42] <N2DIY> holy_cow, this is good.
[07:42] <nickrud> holy_cow, I was trying to visualze my monitor exploding, but I just couldn't
[07:42] <ic56> aaron__: ./ is the current directory
[07:43] <aaron__> how do I copy a file to a floppy in terminal?
[07:43] <nickrud> skpl, the closest I've come to that is changing thye logo next to the text
[07:43] <aaron__> or where do i look to get help on that?
[07:43] <aaron__> i tried "help" but dunno which command it is
[07:44] <holy_cow> aaron__, cp /some/file /media/floppy
[07:44] <nickrud> aaron__, that is a way of saying, 'the current directory'
[07:44] <Double_D> N2DIY: didn't work.  Ctrl+Alt+(+/-) still didn't select or deselect the options.
[07:45] <holy_cow> Double_D, i strongly urge you to regoogle  your refresh rates
[07:45] <holy_cow> that is all you got wrong
[07:45] <holy_cow> get them right, re\start x, and you will have the available res for that setting in system/settings/resolution or whatever
[07:45] <nickrud> aaron__, often used to make sure that the command you are running is using command in the current directory. Why are you asking?
[07:45] <aaron__> can i drag and drop in the terminal?
[07:45] <N2DIY> Bouble_D, did the screen image change?
[07:46] <holy_cow> aaron__, no but you can copy paste
[07:46] <aaron__> im trying to copy a file to a floppy and dont have permissions in the gui so im sudoing
[07:46] <holy_cow> how can you not have permission in gnome?  you mean when you go to places/ computer / floppy ... you can't open floppy?
[07:46] <aaron__> it wont mount.
[07:46] <holy_cow> try anothe floppy maybe? just curious
[07:47] <aaron__> sorry - i was no_no_no
[07:47] <aaron__> the wifi cut out..
[07:47] <Double_D> N2DIY: no.  i just regoogled the refresh rates, per holy_cow, and get the same numbers but with decimals after (i.e. 30.0 instead of 30).  would that make a difference?
[07:47] <Double_D> i'll give it a shot with the decimals and see if that works.
[07:47] <holy_cow> Double_D, nope.
[07:47] <ic56> aaron: what is the error message when you are unable to mount the floppy?
[07:47] <holy_cow> *hmmm*
[07:48] <holy_cow> aaron__, that doesn't sound right, try another floppy, i've seen that in some weird situations
[07:48] <aaron__> places : computer: FLOPPY DRIVE
[07:48] <aaron__> this is the second one
[07:48] <holy_cow> same error?
[07:48] <N2DIY> Bouble_D, so nothing got bigger or smaller? Weird, Ubuntu isn't playing with your video controller.
[07:48] <aaron__> when i did sudo stuff in the terminal it worked fine before on the other one
[07:48] <aaron__> unable to moutn the volume
[07:48] <aaron__> given UDI is not mountable
[07:48] <holy_cow> well yes because sudo runs the command as root, root has power to do anything
[07:49] <nickrud> aaron__, I haven't used a floppy disk in at least a year, I've forotten how :)
[07:49] <aaron__> this is in edubuntu.
[07:49] <holy_cow> aaron__, lets change the perms on the floppy mount
[07:49] <aaron__> its prob set up the permissions weird.
[07:49] <mpeg123> hi pips... how can i run a script in cron... where it will fool the script that it runs under a terminal
[07:49] <mpeg123> it should fool itself that its running under a terminal?
[07:49] <ic56> aaron__: are you sure the floppy is formatted?
[07:49] <Rug> Howdy all
[07:49] <aaron__> owner is ROOT and everything is greyed out in gnome.
[07:50] <aaron__> yah i can format it fine with floppy format
[07:50] <holy_cow> aaron__, well of course, you aren't running as root,you logged in as another user
[07:50] <SimplyFlower> sethk and N2DIY:  i'm back.  tried the insmod /fullpath/de4x5.ko got the following error: insmod: error inserting '/fullpath/de4x5.ko: -1 File exists.  tried the modprobe without ko didn't help.  i am noticing when i type the full path  for modprobe the terminal changes my dashes (-) to underscore (_).  doesn't happen with insmod.
[07:50] <holy_cow> thats because floppy format asks for password, which means it runs as root
[07:50] <holy_cow> >_>
[07:50] <aaron__> yah :)
[07:50] <N2DIY> Oh no, another Bug in the system! Hi bug. :)
[07:50] <Rug> How are the other insomniacs doing tonight?
[07:50] <nickrud> is floppy that bad these days :)
[07:50] <Rug> N2DIY: I'm good thanks
[07:51] <aaron__> you dont know how long i had to dig to find one of these.
[07:51] <aaron__> arcane.
[07:51] <Rug> nickrud: everybody wants floppies to go away
[07:51] <holy_cow> lol too much trouble to bother with
[07:51] <aaron__> they die if you look at them.
[07:51] <Rug> well it seems all the email I get tries to help with that
[07:51] <nickrud> I copied a few files from my last floppies to a cd, Rug
[07:52] <Double_D> holy_cow, N2DIY: that got it.  stupid significant digits.... thanks a million.
[07:52] <holy_cow> aaron__, system don't have cd's? well i guess you want student to  be able to use those ...
[07:52] <holy_cow> Double_D, weird, but okay, cool that it works
[07:52] <nickrud> Ollie Ollie In Free, no one needs to understand floppies :)
[07:53] <holy_cow> we need some additional gui stuff to the resolution picker to let people select monitor make and model like on suse
[07:53] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, forget the path, just do "sudo modprobe module name" or insmode instead of modprobe. Linux can be funny with path names.
[07:53] <Rug> yeah that would be nice
[07:53] <nickrud> holy_cow, yes
[07:53] <nickrud> I hope that get's stolen for eft
[07:53] <holy_cow> heh
[07:54] <holy_cow> *mmhhmm*
[07:54] <nickrud> *stolen*
[07:54] <shekhar__> can someone help me install acroread plugin on firefox 1.5 on dapper?
[07:54] <fogos> hi... someone how i can put on a direct access from desktop the next command: "cd /file/folder" then put "sudo ./load" its for load a driver that is on that folder
[07:54] <holy_cow> shekhar__, don't do that it's evil
[07:54] <holy_cow> shekhar__, instead, install evince
[07:54] <holy_cow> terrific pdf reader
[07:54] <Rug> shekhar__: the Dapper support channel is:  #ubuntu+1
[07:54] <shekhar__> ok
[07:54] <SimplyFlower> N2DIY:  i tried but nothing happens.  it just gives me the prompt again.
[07:55] <Rug> Evince is awesome
[07:55] <holy_cow> you want to always read pdf docs in a standalone app, pdf is a hell of a document to shove into a web browser via plugin
[07:55] <xerophyte> can i able to split the tar archive file into small parts ?? i have huge folder which has 12G of data
[07:55] <fogos> someone have a inspiron 6400 on ubuntu?
[07:55] <aaron__> okay.. trying to copy to a floppy here
[07:55] <aaron__> ive read cp --help
[07:55] <holy_cow> aaron__, what you need is dd
[07:56] <shekhar__> holy_cow:  thanks for your help
[07:56] <shekhar__> holy_cow:  if what i am trying to do is evil, then most of the world is evil
[07:56] <heroin> hi i messed up my drivers and now i cant see anything? can i startup a terminal before gnome starts or something?
[07:56] <holy_cow> aaron__, what you would do is sudo dd /dev/whatever /pathe/someimagefilename
[07:56] <shekhar__> holy_cow:  that's not exactly the ubuntu spirit methinks
[07:56] <holy_cow> aaron__, then you would just dd it out to the flopp with sudo dd /file /device
[07:56] <aaron__> this is what im typing : cp eb-5.4.2-eepro100.zhd /media/floppy ? but i know thats not right
[07:56] <Rug> heroin: if you hit Ctrl + alt + F1 that will give you a terminal to login with
[07:57] <holy_cow> shekhar__, just do it the right way and stop acting like a windows dip
[07:57] <nickrud> aaron__, you really need this floppy back then
[07:57] <heroin> but after gnome starts everythng is fubar
[07:57] <holy_cow> shekhar__, just because windows users think it is fine to stuff every application into a browser doesn't mean you should
[07:57] <shekhar__> holy_cow:  i have never used windows in my life
[07:57] <Rug> heroin: did you try Crtl + Alt + F1 ?
[07:57] <heroin> i will when i get out of bed
[07:57] <holy_cow> shekhar__, in that case you are aware of the principle of using the right tool for the right job
[07:57] <Rug> FFS then why ask for help?
[07:57] <holy_cow> let a browser render html, use a pdf reader to render pdf
[07:57] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, nothing happend, and a new prompt? This is good! Now try "sudo ifup eth0"
[07:58] <nickrud> aaron__, we make fun of floppies, only because I had to use them. Whart do you need to do?
[07:58] <holy_cow> keep your life simple is all my advice means. beyond that, suit your self.
[07:58] <heroin> keep life simple get linux :( not really
[07:58] <lrojas> where can i find the iso for the dapper version of ubuntu?
[07:58] <diomedes> this having to use sudo all the time is getting annoying
[07:58] <heroin> Irojas u can just upgrade a breezy install
[07:58] <SimplyFlower> N2DIY:  ok... brb
[07:59] <Nafai> diomedes: If you want to have a root prompt, just do sudo su -
[07:59] <nickrud> heroin, no, it's keep life (or at least this part of it) under control: use linux
[07:59] <holy_cow> heroin, linux is simple, but simplicity depends on your perspective.  people conveniently forget how many years they have spent on either mac or windows and think picking up a new os will take 5 minutes
[07:59] <holy_cow> it just isn't so
[07:59] <Rug> if simple = virus+adware+spyware=0 the Linux is simple
[07:59] <monsterb> How do switch to superuser in Nautilus?
[07:59] <holy_cow> then again, its not that hard either, but it is simple
[07:59] <kurimaw> guys... what's nautilus? is it a software where i can access?
[07:59] <heroin> Rug but linux+games+drivers=not simple
[08:00] <Rug> Use the right tool for the job
[08:00] <carthik> monsterb, gksudo nautilus .
[08:00] <holy_cow> monsterb, well you don't switch to super user, you start nautilus with super user perms as in: sudo nautilus if you need to
[08:00] <carthik> kurimaw, nautilus is the file manager in Ubuntu/GNOME - the equiv of Windows explorer, so to speak
[08:00] <Rug> There are LOTS of Linux native games, several are VERY fun too.
[08:01] <holy_cow> diomedes, one says that at first coming from debian maybe, but it is an excellent technique for keeping your self from doing stupid things via carelessness
[08:01] <aaron__> ok im ready to tear it up.. i cant copy this freaking thing to the floppy because i dont know the syntax of a command line
[08:01] <Rug> If you are crying because you can't get FarCry to work, well Linux is not windows
[08:01] <aaron__> cant i shift click and run as root or something ?
[08:01] <holy_cow> aaron__, i gave you the basic idea ... where are you stuck?
[08:01] <carthik> aaron__, shift click what?
[08:01] <monsterb> carthik, holy_cow - ok thanks - I was in the middle of copying files - i was hoping i could switch to superuser without restarting Natilus.
[08:02] <aaron__> sudo cp filename /dev/ ? then what?
[08:02] <diomedes> i was just never a fan of sudo
[08:02] <SimplyFlower> N2DIY:  i'm back.  got the following: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[08:02] <carthik> aaron__, use "sudo" before the command to complete the action as a superuser, without permissions.
[08:02] <holy_cow> monsterb, no and when you start nautilus with superuser privileges, anything it copies will have those priviledges too
[08:02] <Rug> diomedes: I use su all the time.  I never use sudo.
[08:02] <carthik> aaron__, /dev/fd0 is usually the floppy drive
[08:02] <aaron__> whats the floppy called? c: is hda right?
[08:02] <holy_cow> aaron__, no dude
[08:02] <aaron__> :/
[08:02] <carthik> aaron__, well, C is not always hda
[08:02] <nickrud> aaron__, two things
[08:02] <holy_cow> aaron__, dd /dev/devicename /path/to/file/image/to/create
[08:03] <carthik> aaron__, type $mount
[08:03] <nickrud> one, we're all venting
[08:03] <neiras> if you want a root prompt, "sudo -s"
[08:03] <holy_cow> aaron__, then dd /path/to/image /dev/devicename
[08:03] <carthik> aaron__, that will tell you all the mounted filesystems
[08:03] <baconbacon> lol everybodys on aaron
[08:03] <aaron__> lol
[08:03] <holy_cow> is it /dev/floppy on ubuntu? i forget i never use that
[08:03] <nickrud> two, you'll mount your floppy in the filesystem, and copy your files to that place
[08:03] <aaron__> ok
[08:03] <aaron__> lemme try that
[08:03] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, ignoring it? So it knows it is there, but it won't play with it, interesting. I'm at a loss.
[08:03] <neiras> dd if=/path/to/image of=/path/to/device
[08:04] <holy_cow> !xgl
[08:04] <monsterb> holy_cow - once a file is in /home - will i have all priviledges without superuser?
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[08:04] <nickrud> aaron__, sudo mount /dev/fdo /mnt
[08:04] <holy_cow> monsterb, it depends on how you copied it there.  if you copy it as the user, then it gets user perms, if you copy it as any other user it gets that users ownership.
[08:05] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, maybe you can try some modules that are in the same family? Google search for them?
[08:05] <monsterb> holy_cow - thx
[08:06] <sethk> N2DIY, it's a tulip; that's the correct driver
[08:06] <aaron__> omg that worked
[08:06] <aaron__> thank you!!!!
[08:06] <sethk> N2DIY, it's even the older form of tulip
[08:06] <aaron__> mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[08:06] <nickrud> aaron__, I apologize for being a few sheets to the wind :)
[08:06] <aaron__> now there's something called mnt in the computer browser
[08:07] <Rug> I forget, how do I get GDM/XDM/whatever to be launched at startup?
[08:07] <thatGuy_> anyone got an answer for flash on amd64 cpus?
[08:07] <aaron__> fuck. i cant drag and drop. why is this set up like this.
[08:07] <nickrud> aaron__, that's normal
[08:07] <holy_cow> nickrud, ummm, you really need to give them cleaner instructions bro
[08:07] <nickrud> aaron__, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[08:07] <holy_cow> ./mnt is not a very good idea
[08:08] <aaron__> mmkay
[08:08] <nickrud> holy_cow, there is no better place to mount than /mnt
[08:08] <holy_cow> you told him to mount it AS /MNT not IN /mnt/whatever .. yes?
[08:08] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, Ok according to sethk, it needs the tulip module, modprobe, or insmod tulip, or tulip.o, and see if that works??
[08:08] <nickrud> until you've defined a permanent mount point
[08:08] <aaron__> fstab??? wtf?
[08:08] <holy_cow> i would of put it in /mount my self .. /mnt is just weird but anywhoo :)
[08:08] <SimplyFlower> N2DIY:  ok... brb
[08:09] <aaron__> oooh to do this now im using what i learned 'sudo gedit'
[08:09] <sethk> N2DIY, no, the module he's been trying to use _is_ the tulip module
[08:09] <holy_cow> lol i mean /mnt/whatever oh nm :)
[08:09] <nickrud> holy_cow, that's why /media was used for auto mounting stuff, to leave /mt available for the admin
[08:09] <holy_cow> aaron__, your picking pu quick :)
[08:10] <holy_cow> nickrud, yeah but hes mounted it as mnt :) he might potentially have something already in there ... but i digress :)
[08:10] <ubuntu> is there a good introduction to linux out there?
[08:10] <aaron__> nano? wow
[08:10] <nickrud> holy_cow, he won't. Unless he named it. But you're right, we digress :)
[08:10] <holy_cow> ubuntu, wiki.ubuntulinux.org is a great start
[08:11] <holy_cow> nickrud, :) i shutup now
[08:11] <ubuntu> thanks
[08:11] <holy_cow> hehe
[08:11] <N2DIY> ubuntu, yes look for the rute manual.
[08:11] <ubuntu> sweet, see ya
[08:12] <stjepan> what do you think of tabbed window managers?
[08:12] <s|k> !nvidia
[08:12] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:12] <necro> X/Gnome displays only at 640x480 resolution max because I cannot figure out how to configure my 3Dfx Voodoo 3 with dri/glx enabled because I can't seem to enable bus mastering on my system.  Is there a generic video driver I can use to display at 1600x1200 resolution without direct rendering?
[08:12] <aaron__> how do i get rid of that floppy drive : mnt thing?
[08:13] <N2DIY> sethk, ok, gravity is starting get strange here, and my video procesors are acting weird, it's probably best if I log out.
[08:13] <holy_cow> umount /mnt
[08:13] <aaron__> oh i guess thats another thing i have to do as root?
[08:14] <nickrud> aaron__, sudo umount /mnt
[08:14] <SimplyFlower> N2DIY: i'm back.  insmod returned with no such file.  modprobe tulip took me back to the prompt.  what now?
[08:15] <aaron__> im doing that
[08:15] <sethk> SimplyFlower, it can't give you "no such file" if you give it the full path to the file
[08:15] <aaron__> ....
[08:15] <sethk> SimplyFlower, which is what I told you to do.  that was the purpose of the find, to get the path
[08:16] <nickrud> aaron__, floppies are like usbsticks in windows, you mount them, and before you take them out you 'eject/unmount' them
[08:17] <SimplyFlower> sethk: i typed the full path, but the terminal is changing my dashes (-) into underscores (_).  i don't know why.  therefore, the path it is reading is incorrect.
[08:18] <sethk> SimplyFlower, then cd to the directory and use ./filename
[08:18] <aaron__> another dumb question
[08:18] <sethk> SimplyFlower, but the shell (the terminal is just a display device) does not change dashes to underscores.
[08:18] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, modprobe gave you a prompt, god, try " ifup eth0" again.
[08:18] <aaron__> does linux wait until unmount to write changes to floppies?
[08:18] <sethk> SimplyFlower, tell me exactly what you typed
[08:18] <aaron__> thansk for your help with the fstab
[08:18] <N2DIY> I meant good not god!
[08:19] <aaron__> i went to terminal and did mount /dev/fd0 and dragged and dropped what i wanted...but didnt see a light on tht floppy drive
[08:19] <holy_cow> !xgl
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[08:19] <aaron__> then I did umount /dev/fd0 and it came on
[08:19] <aaron__> well see
[08:19] <holy_cow> aaron__, heh no
[08:19] <aaron__> oh no!
[08:19] <nickrud> aaron__, that's easy. It's because linux assumes you're more interested in reading than writing. It'll sync when you're not reading, or when you say,, umount
[08:19] <holy_cow> aaron__, everything in /dev are physical device nodes
[08:19] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, can you see the card with lsmod, or lspci?
[08:19] <holy_cow> you cant umount that
[08:20] <holy_cow> you can only mount the locations you mounted those devices to
[08:20] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i typed: modprobe /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/tulip/de4x5.ko
[08:20] <aaron__> wwell it looked like it worked
[08:20] <holy_cow> so if you do mount /dev/thisdevice /to/this/location
[08:20] <aaron__> !!
[08:20] <ubotu> aaron__: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:20] <holy_cow> you do umount /to/this/location
[08:21] <aaron__> i dont understand that abstraction.. i dont know where things are at
[08:21] <holy_cow> not yet give it time
[08:21] <aaron__> something is on the desktop and i want it on a floppy
[08:21] <holy_cow> there is too much to absorb in one night, it will all fall into place shortly
[08:22] <nickrud> holy_cow, do you have a floppy in hand?
[08:22] <nickrud> cuz I don't
[08:22] <ic56> holy_cow: you are mistaken.  umount will accept either the device or the mountpoint as its argument.  The device argument is the older usage (from the 70s)
[08:22] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, try "modprobe tulip", or "modprob de4x5" forget the paths, and let linux figure them out.
[08:22] <holy_cow> nickrud, nope i just setup a mini pc :) no floppy anywhere, i'm actually not installing cdroms anymore either, everything is network based
[08:22] <holy_cow> oh i stand corrected, what ic56 said
[08:23] <holy_cow> *nod*
[08:23] <SimplyFlower> N2DIY:  don't understand what you mean.  but will try the ifup eth0 again... brb
[08:23] <nickrud> holy_cow, cuz I recognize what you're saying, we just don't have the device in hand :)
[08:23] <holy_cow> *nod*
[08:23] <Rug> I am having problems with my printer.  Cups is asking for a login/pass (when I access it via 127.0.0.1:631)  I have tried my root and user pass.  What am I forgetting?
[08:24] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, ok just remember to prefix everything with sudo, I'm new to Ubuntu too, so I keep forgettig that.
[08:24] <nickrud> Rug, sudo adduser cupsys shadow && sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart , then try the :631 again.
[08:24] <Rug> nick Thansk
[08:25] <holy_cow> nickrud, please don't tell them to that
[08:25] <nickrud> Rug, using your sudo self
[08:25] <holy_cow> damnit
[08:25] <nickrud> holy_cow, what other way is there?
[08:25] <holy_cow> Rug, there is no html gui frontend meant to be accessible via ubuntu
[08:25] <holy_cow> other way for what?
[08:25] <holy_cow> use the damn gui
[08:25] <nickrud> holy_cow, I've used lynx for that without a gui
[08:25] <holy_cow> why?
[08:25] <holy_cow> ubuntu is a desktop, use the gui provided
[08:26] <_harm> hi
[08:26] <nickrud> holycow, hm. point
[08:26] <N2DIY> Lynx is a cli client!
[08:26] <Rug> No.  I can't   AND  I'm using fluxbox so the gnome crap isn't there
[08:26] <holy_cow> Rug, okay in that case what nickrud said
[08:27] <Rug> =)  ok will-do
[08:27] <SimplyFlower> N2DIY and sethk:  i'm back.  i've done everything as instructed.  still no go.  and yes i'm using sudo everytime... forgot to mention that.  anything else?
[08:28] <HedgeMage> Rug: if you add yourself to the group lpadmin you should be able to access the webmin using your username and pw
[08:28] <cliche> hi?
[08:28] <cliche> anybody here?
[08:28] <Rug> HedgeMage: thanks
[08:28] <Rug> cliche: nope
[08:28] <mzinz> For some reason when Ubuntu is booting, it will stall on "initializing network interfaces" for 3-5 minutes.. it happens 80% of the time.  Anyone have any clue why?
[08:28] <cliche> hahaha :)
[08:28] <ic56> !justask
[08:28] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[08:29] <ic56> mzinz: do you use DHCP?  If so, it could be the DHCP server is slow to respond to you.
[08:29] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, yes, is this a laptop? Make and model?  Laptops can be strange.
[08:30] <HedgeMage> Rug: np... mind you, I'm already on dapper so there's an off chance it's different if you're not... /etc/cups/conf.d will have a line in it specifying which group can admin cups :)
[08:30] <sethk> mzinz, you are configured for DHCP but there is no dhcp server on your network
[08:30] <cliche> ok... a question: when is the usb wireless card has its own driver?
[08:31] <nickrud> HedgeMage, it wasn't sufficient for breezy
[08:31] <Rug> HedgeMage: no, it's all good.   Thanks for the tip.
[08:31] <holy_cow> your question doesn't make a lot of sense, careto rephrase a bit cliche ?
[08:31] <PORDO> is there a version of the kernel i can get through apt-get that has the low latency or realtime lsm thing or whatever?
[08:31] <holy_cow> oh wait, broken english, parsing error
[08:31] <holy_cow> lol
[08:31] <SimplyFlower> N2DIY:  no... its a generic built desktop with an AMD Athlon 550 MHz, 256 Mb ram, 2 hard drives
[08:31] <HedgeMage> Rug: np
[08:31] <holy_cow> cliche, generally speaking if it doesn't exist now, your manufacturer will never release one
[08:31] <sethk> SimplyFlower, you have to understand that what you are telling us isn't correct, because it can't happen that way.
[08:31] <cliche> there is pci one, no driver for the usb type
[08:31] <cliche> :(
[08:32] <holy_cow> cliche, the rule of thumb is hardware manufacturers have little to no clue about open source, and a lot of them have driver issues with even windows so expect little
[08:32] <sethk> SimplyFlower, you couldn't have done a cd to the directory, and an insmod of the file from that directory
[08:32] <Rug> G'night all
[08:32] <sethk> SimplyFlower, because, had you done it, it either would work or you would get an error message
[08:32] <holy_cow> cliche, as with anything, you must research first and make sure th ehardware is supported
[08:32] <cliche> holy_cow, d a m i t i t
[08:33] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, ok, has it ever had linux on it?
[08:33] <holy_cow> cliche, people are lazy, cruel and shortsighted.  it can be a beautiful world, everyone simply chooses to not make it so
[08:34] <nickrud> 's definition when it comes time to buy a lapton
[08:34] <holy_cow> i buy laptop with the exclusive note that all the chipsets are supported.
[08:35] <holy_cow> heh
[08:35] <nickrud> Someday I'll find a vendor who'll let me boot my own darn cd,  and test it
[08:35] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i did change to the directory... my prompt reads as the following: chirpie@ubuntu:/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/tulip$
[08:36] <holy_cow> acer has a linux laptop you can buy ... its super low end but it works
[08:36] <holy_cow> you should be able to buy one without windows
[08:36] <HymnToLife> all of HP stuff works great with Linux too
[08:36] <nickrud> cheap is god , holy_cow :)
[08:36] <sethk> SimplyFlower, ok, and what command did you type in from there?
[08:36] <cliche> the second question: is there a high-end laptop totally designed for linux/bsd?
[08:37] <sethk> cliche, "designed for" is microsoft propaganda.  there is no such thing
[08:37] <Ohzie> Is there a way that I can upgrade from breezy to dapper with synaptic?
[08:37] <cliche> such as: "designed for linux/bsd" tags
[08:37] <ice_1963> i got my laptop for $50 :)
[08:37] <HymnToLife> now THAT would be fun
[08:38] <sethk> cliche, you can buy a tag maker
[08:38] <HymnToLife> A "Designed for *nix" sticker on a laptop :p
[08:38] <cliche> such as: "we recommend you to use linux/bsd" tags
[08:38] <Ohzie> In reference to a laptop for linux/bsd
[08:38] <sethk> cliche, why would they do that?  they make no profit if you use linux or bsd
[08:38] <Ohzie> I have a recommendation
[08:38] <holy_cow> cliche, one day perhaps
[08:38] <Ohzie> Anything with an nVidia card. ;D
[08:38] <_harm> where is the source.list locatedD?
[08:38] <HymnToLife> sethk> to look kewl
[08:38] <sethk> cliche, they sell you windows and mark it up
[08:39] <Ohzie> The older dv5000's from HP are ridiculously awesome for linux. Run Ubuntu like a dreeeeeaaaaaam
[08:39] <HymnToLife> _harm> /etc/apt
[08:39] <h4ch3r> they waked up
[08:39] <HymnToLife> Ohzie> all HP stuff does
[08:39] <cliche> sethk, hahaha, nice oke
[08:39] <cliche> sethk, hahaha, nice joke
[08:39] <sethk> cliche, I have ubuntu running on four laptops
[08:39] <sethk> cliche, it isn't a joke, it's perfectly serious
[08:39] <holy_cow> you know i don't trust hp for anything but printers
[08:39] <sethk> cliche, they are running a business.  their purpose is to sell you stuff for more than they have to pay for it
[08:40] <Ohzie> Speaking of ubuntu...can I upgrade to dapper drake from breezy via synaptic! :D
[08:40] <holy_cow> all their towers are monstrous pieces of crap
[08:40] <sethk> cliche, they aren't going to put a tag on their box that says "please, pay us less"
[08:40] <h4ch3r> I use ltsp 4,2 in ubuntu dapper. but do not obtain to initiate xserver in the stations!  :(
[08:40] <holy_cow> and their laptops have historically been primed for proprietary components
[08:40] <HymnToLife> I have had thee HP laptops and one desktop, all of them ran Ubuntu like a charm
[08:40] <cliche> sethk, even they sole you the sh*t?
[08:40] <sethk> holy_cow, hp laptops have awful keyboards
[08:40] <h4ch3r> I am with problem in lts.conf....nao I obtain to initiate xserver in the station
[08:40] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i've tried everything i was told.  i typed sudo modprobe de4x5.ko, sudo modprobe de4x5, sudo modprobe de4x5.o, sudo modprobe /fullpath/de4x5.ko, sudo modprobe /fulpath/de4x5, sudo modprobe /fulpath/de4x5.0 ... the same was typed using insmod instead of modprobe.
[08:40] <jmg> as long as it boots
[08:41] <sethk> cliche, microsoft gives them free advertising and all sorts of incentives so you use use windows.
[08:41] <holy_cow> *nod* their tower cases suck dell ass, and dell is as bad as it gets for bad case design imho
[08:41] <sethk> SimplyFlower, none of those are what I told you to type
[08:41] <sethk> SimplyFlower, everything I type is significant.  you can't leave parts out.
[08:41] <Ohzie> Microsoft's new advertising service launches on the second of May.
[08:41] <h4ch3r> they alquem uses ltsp 4.2?  or it has lts.conf that it can pass me
[08:41] <h4ch3r> ????????????????????????????????????????????????
[08:41] <sethk> SimplyFlower, type insmod ./de4x5.ko
[08:41] <h4ch3r> HELP ME
[08:41] <cliche> sethk, is that behave legal?
[08:41] <h4ch3r> =(
[08:41] <sethk> SimplyFlower, if you leave out the ./, it isn't going to work
[08:41] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[08:41] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[08:41] <holy_cow> Ohzie, what does it do? spam your windows install or what?
[08:41] <holy_cow> cliche, actually no
[08:42] <sethk> cliche, of course.  they are quite up front about their purpose.  they are in business to make money
[08:42] <holy_cow> cliche, they have been convicted of monoply practices in the us and eu now
[08:42] <Ohzie> It's basically like google's search sponsered ads, but for msn search./
[08:42] <holy_cow> cliche, us didn't want to do anything because it would cost them jobs
[08:42] <holy_cow> eu is going through the appeals process now for that
[08:42] <nano> Hi, I needed a resource to help me learn how to enable 3d support from scratch...any leads?
[08:42] <sethk> cliche, holy_cow is correct, there is a chance the e.u. will force them to change.  never happen in the us
[08:42] <cliche> sethk, even they make too much money already?
[08:42] <holy_cow> cliche, basically its up to us to make the change and educate those areound us
[08:43] <holy_cow> cliche, the only way freedom will win is if we change our selves and our culture
[08:43] <cliche> hahaha
[08:43] <sethk> cliche, I've been working in seattle lately, in a building where Paul Allen has his office.  Two blocks from there are a dozen homeless shelters.  People begging for food, lining up for blocks for free meals.
[08:43] <holy_cow> cliche, why are you laughing? ubuntu is only 3 years old
[08:43] <holy_cow> cliche, its one of the biggest distros on th eplanet
[08:43] <sethk> cliche, they could feed all these people and never even feel it.  they don't
[08:43] <holy_cow> lots can happen, you just haveto have the willpower
[08:44] <holy_cow> but poitn being, mark had no clue this was going to happen when he started it
[08:44] <cliche> will-power?
[08:44] <SimplyFlower> N2DIY:  it has never had a linux installed, but has run PuppyLinux, and SystemRescue from the cd that uses linux and has gotten an internet connection with both.  It also has installed on it windowsXP
[08:44] <holy_cow> look at mozilla, they have a staff of 30 now
[08:44] <holy_cow> who knows give it time
[08:44] <holy_cow> microsoft didn't become microsoft overnight
[08:45] <holy_cow> it took them 30 years
[08:45] <etmnt> can somebody please help me. My applications menu pops up for a second and then it disapears and I see a small 3x3px square!
[08:45] <aaron__> ugh
[08:45] <etmnt> I don't want to reformat again
[08:45] <etmnt> :(
[08:45] <etmnt> any idea?
[08:45] <aaron__> on startup i get error 17 from grub : http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[08:45] <holy_cow> etmnt, i have never heard of that
[08:45] <holy_cow> etmnt, what are your systetm specs?
[08:45] <ice_1963> well uninstall windowsxp
[08:45] <etmnt> AXP 3200+, 1GB, 6800
[08:46] <etmnt> it worked an hour ago
[08:46] <etmnt> now stopped...
[08:46] <Imsdle> i have setup my ubuntu as an Internet gateway but it is not very reliable... anyone got any suggestions
[08:46] <h4ch3r> trident 2MB
[08:46] <sethk> SimplyFlower, why don't you type the command in correctly and tell us what message you get
[08:46] <Imsdle> it works sometimes but not others
[08:46] <etmnt> I don't know what to do, I can't afford to reformat again
[08:46] <cliche> the third question: if Bill could restart again, would he join the free source camp?
[08:46] <SimplyFlower> sethk: i'm sorry.  so many messages coming through... must have missed that one about ./ ... will try now... brb
[08:46] <holy_cow> etmnt, ati video card?
[08:46] <etmnt> I even tried to add the other gnome menu where it's just 1 button, but same exact thing happens
[08:46] <etmnt> nvidia 6800
[08:46] <holy_cow> *hmmm*
[08:46] <etmnt> everything was fine an hour ago, but it started happening
[08:47] <etmnt> places and system work
[08:47] <holy_cow> that sounds driver related ... not sure what to say actually, i've never heard of that issue
[08:47] <etmnt> but applications doesnt
[08:47] <N2DIY> SimplyFlower, winders is the problem, I think? It doesn't like playing with other operatig system, on the same hard drives, or even partitions.
[08:47] <etmnt> applications pops up for a single second and then disapears
[08:48] <holy_cow> etmnt, well try this
[08:48] <RobyX> Uh what was the command to install from Desktop "C ~/Desktop" or something like that?
[08:48] <holy_cow> open up a terminal and startup something like gedit from terminal
[08:48] <holy_cow> look for error messages
[08:48] <RobyX> I accidently removed my command list -_-
[08:48] <cliche> etmnt, disappear?
[08:48] <etmnt> gedit opens fine
[08:48] <etmnt> yeah
[08:48] <holy_cow> RobyX, install what?
[08:48] <holy_cow> etmnt, what about other applications?
[08:48] <cliche> etmnt, weird :(
[08:48] <etmnt> it comes up and disapears, places and system work fine though
[08:48] <etmnt> :(
[08:49] <ic56> aaron__: are you sure your boot partition is the 2nd partition on that disk?
[08:49] <RobyX> I remember installing .deb files I had to put something so I can install it from the desktop
[08:49] <etmnt> every app runs fine but applications disapears. I don't know what to do
[08:49] <holy_cow> etmnt, are you running breezy or dapper?
[08:49] <etmnt> breezy
[08:49] <etmnt> I been running very nice for about 2 weeks and this happend an hour ago, no idea why
[08:49] <etmnt> so I restart
[08:49] <cliche> etmnt, which application?
[08:49] <etmnt> and same thing
[08:49] <aaron__> ic56 there should be NOTHING else on the disk right?
[08:49] <etmnt> just "Applications" the menu
[08:49] <aaron__> im trying to put grub on a thin client
[08:49] <etmnt> when I click it I see the list
[08:49] <etmnt> for a second
[08:50] <etmnt> then it disapears
[08:50] <ice_1963> it's a gnome bug
[08:50] <aaron__> i used fdisk on a floppy to take all the partitions off
[08:50] <holy_cow> etmnt, you don't put grub on a thinclient
[08:50] <etmnt> huh?
[08:50] <holy_cow> sorry that was for aaron
[08:50] <aaron__> holy_cow : thats what the instructions said to do : https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe
[08:50] <ice_1963> if your useing gnome 2.14
[08:50] <holy_cow> really? that doesn't sound right
[08:51] <cliche> 2.14? lol
[08:51] <ic56> aaron__: you have configured grub to boot from the local hard disk.
[08:51] <aaron__> im at the bottom : Delete all existing partitions with the d key, then make a new one with the n key. (A small partition is fine). Activate the partition you created with the a key, then press w to write it to disk and exit.
[08:51] <aaron__> B
[08:51] <etmnt> teag
[08:51] <etmnt> yeah*
[08:51] <etmnt> 2.14
[08:51] <etmnt> no
[08:51] <etmnt> 2.12
[08:51] <aaron__> it asks should it be primary or extended.. i dunno
[08:51] <aaron__> i make it primary... then it wants a number.. so i picked 1
[08:51] <aaron__> but i have no idea
[08:51] <etmnt> I even loaded failsafe gnome
[08:51] <etmnt> same problem
[08:52] <holy_cow> aaron__, that should be fine
[08:52] <aaron__> this problem is on 2 computers
[08:52] <ice_1963> well i'm running 2.14 :0)
[08:52] <ice_1963> deb
[08:52] <ice_1963> sid
[08:52] <cliche> *sigh*, a bug in a live-cd is horrible
[08:52] <aaron__> :/
[08:52] <cliche> :|
[08:52] <holy_cow> it just means grub can't find the kernel
[08:53] <holy_cow> or whatever
[08:53] <aaron__> 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[08:53] <aaron__> This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.
[08:53] <_nano_> how do I install a graphics driver?
[08:53] <etmnt> anybody know of any .deb files f 2.14?
[08:53] <aaron__> theres all this arcana about fixing it
[08:53] <_nano_> glxinfo says "direct rendering: no"
[08:53] <aaron__> but its greek
[08:54] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i'm back.  typed sudo insmod ./de4x5.ko got the following:  insmod: error inserting './de4x5.ko' : -1 File exists.  then typed:  sudo modprope ./de4x5.ko got the following: FATAL: Module ./de4x5.ko not found.  did i type it right this time?
[08:54] <etmnt> I really don't want to reformat again
[08:54] <sethk> SimplyFlower, don't type modprobe when I tell you to type insmod
[08:54] <aaron__> im ready to put windows back on these things.
[08:54] <holy_cow> aaron__, wow you got that far eh?
[08:54] <holy_cow> is this your first time using linux?
[08:54] <aaron__> yah
[08:55] <sethk> SimplyFlower, ok, you got an error inserting the module.  then you got file exists.  that's almost certainly because the module is already inserted
[08:55] <holy_cow> lol you need to do more research, but sure put windows back on
[08:55] <sethk> SimplyFlower, do lsmod, see if de4x5 is listed
[08:55] <holy_cow> have fund cleaning perpetually win boxen of spyware :) you are so close bro don't give up
[08:55] <aaron__> but itll be a mess... i dont want a mess. i just want it to work.
[08:55] <holy_cow> why not give it a night and continue later
[08:56] <aaron__> lol.
[08:56] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  ok... i will type ismod and see what is listed... brb
[08:56] <holy_cow> looking at those instructions tho, thats pretty simple to setup, i'm not sure where the problem is right now.  fixing a grub related issue can be tricky... especially over irc :)
[08:56] <holy_cow> *hmm*
[08:57] <etmnt> can anybody help me? I can show you want I mean with VNC
[08:57] <aaron__> thanks for your help... everyone.
[08:57] <AnAnt> how can I disable tap-to-click in Xorg ?!
[08:58] <AnAnt> I tried setting MaxTapTime to 0
[08:58] <AnAnt> but it didn't work
[08:58] <holy_cow> aaron__, okay basically you seem to either have messed up the partition
[08:58] <holy_cow> or you messed up the floppy
[08:58] <aaron__> lol. this is on 2 computers that this happens
[08:58] <holy_cow> aaron__, fixing that is rather tough over irc
[08:59] <holy_cow> aaron__, your making the same mistake twice
[08:59] <plutonas> hello, I convinced a friend of me to intsall linux across with windows on his computer, and he choosed ubuntu. He downloaded the disk, and burned it on a cd, and now wants me to go, install it, configure it and show him something about linux. What do I need to know and what should I have with me? I think I need partion magic for ubuntu right? what else?
[08:59] <aaron__> i think i messed up the partitions coz it doesnt look like what the instructions say
[08:59] <holy_cow> it happens a lot when you try to force your self to do something, particularly when you expect it to work like windows and its not windows
[08:59] <holy_cow> aaron__, thus
[08:59] <holy_cow> you can just go back to the partition bit
[08:59] <holy_cow> and retry
[08:59] <skeff> is there a console/terminal apt frontend?
[08:59] <aaron__> i did that.
[08:59] <aaron__> resized it from 4886 or something to 1024 whatever that means
[09:00] <PORDO> can someone tell me how i'd remedy the problem of not having gtk-config found?
[09:00] <holy_cow> try again damnit :)
[09:00] <AnAnt> skeff: apt-get ?
[09:00] <aaron__> lol
[09:00] <skeff> AnAnt, with ncurses interface or something
[09:00] <AnAnt> skeff: oh, dunno
[09:00] <aaron__> editing the registry is more fun than this
[09:00] <holy_cow> aaron__, the instructions don't seem to be asking you to resize
[09:00] <jmg> plutonas: are you a linux newbie?
[09:00] <holy_cow> *sigh*
[09:00] <aaron__> they dont..
[09:00] <holy_cow> then go edit a registry
[09:00] <holy_cow> lol
[09:00] <plutonas> jmg, no I'm not, but not an expert either
[09:00] <plutonas> I'm a newbie at ubuntu, never seen them installed
[09:01] <holy_cow> jesus, why is it that noobs always expect everything instantly? knowledge isn't free
[09:01] <jmg> plutonas: if you need to resize a partition the best software is partition expert, if he has windows xp
[09:01] <etmnt> anybody have a deb package of gnome 2.14... I guess thats my only hope
[09:01] <plutonas> but I use debian for the last 3 weeks and befora that fedora and mandrake
[09:01] <jmg> plutonas: read the wiki
[09:01] <aaron__> hmm...?
[09:01] <plutonas> jmg, link?
[09:01] <jmg> plutonas: installing is identical to debian
[09:01] <ic56> aaron__: there's a lot of disks on that box.  How do you know that your SCSI disk is hd2?  I suspect you have grub installed on one of the IDE disks and that is the one that's being invoked.
[09:01] <bluelotus> return (blah) if (blah), else false?
[09:01] <bluelotus> oops
[09:02] <jmg> plutonas: except ubuntu uses sudo
[09:02] <aaron__> huh?
[09:02] <jmg> plutonas: wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:02] <plutonas> jmg, I see and there isn't support for mp3's dvd etc right?
[09:02] <aaron__> on the computer im putting it on theres only one HD
[09:02] <aaron__> and in fdisk i deleted all the partitions and tried to make a new one
[09:02] <holy_cow> and?
[09:02] <ic56> aaron__: please name the person you are addressing.  "huh?" doesn't tell me if you are confused by what I said or by what holy_cow said.
[09:02] <holy_cow> did you write the changes back?
[09:03] <aaron__> oh.. yah w
[09:03] <holy_cow> allright ..
[09:03] <aaron__> then i did this dd if=/mnt/eb-5.4.1-3c90x.zhd of=/dev/hda1
[09:03] <N2DIY> Goodnight, 73 N2DIY
[09:03] <aaron__> if the thing that i download wasnt for the right ethernet card it wouldnt cause this problem...
[09:03] <holy_cow> did it indicate a successfull write?
[09:03] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i'm back.  typed lsmod got:  Module: de4x5  Size: 43424  Used by: 0  (tulip was there also)
[09:04] <AnAnt> is there an unstable repository for Ubuntu ?
[09:04] <ic56> aaron__: did you previously have linux installed on this machine?
[09:04] <holy_cow> AnAnt, no
[09:04] <aaron__> yah something like 50+1
[09:04] <sethk> SimplyFlower, ok, then you successfully inserted the module, probably an hour ago or more.  It's there.
[09:04] <aaron__> yes ic56 there was straight ubuntu on it before
[09:04] <holy_cow> AnAnt, ubuntu IS debians UNSTABLE just polished and frozen
[09:04] <sethk> SimplyFlower, do ifconfig -a, see if your interface shows up
[09:04] <N2DIY> Belay my last.
[09:05] <AnAnt> holy_cow: u mean, there is no debian package of gpm version 1.20 ?
[09:05] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  ok... will type ifconfig -a ... brb
[09:05] <ic56> aaron__: you probably still have a grub installed in the boot sector of the disk from your previous installation.  You have 2 copies of grub
[09:05] <ic56>  and the old one is the one being invoked.
[09:05] <aaron__> ahh
[09:05] <aaron__> how do i fix that?
[09:05] <holy_cow> AnAnt, it would depend on debian not ubuntu.  ubuntu just freezes their unstable every 6 months ... on debian new stuff is always dropping in you shouldcheck there
[09:06] <holy_cow> ic56, excellent point actually, i'm drawing a blank take over :)
[09:06] <N2DIY> SimpleFlower, does lsmod tell you what iterface the card is using, eth0 or something like that?
[09:06] <nickrud> aaron__, I don't think you do.  of=/dev/hda1
[09:06] <jmg> plutonas: its in the wiki search for RestrictedFormats
[09:06] <jmg> !dvd
[09:06] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[09:06] <ic56> holy_cow: I don't remember how to correctly clear the boot sector.
[09:07] <AnAnt> holy_cow: could I add debian unstable repository to Ubuntu's apt-get ?
[09:07] <jmg> !wiki
[09:07] <skeff> AnAnt, found it, aptitude is the command, or dselect for a less fancy one.
[09:07] <AnAnt> skeff: for what ?
[09:07] <AnAnt> skeff: oh ok
[09:07] <holy_cow> AnAnt, nope, not binary compatable, not for any particular reason than you can't mix rapidly moving targets
[09:07] <plutonas> jmg, thanks
[09:07] <jmg> !mp3
[09:07] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:07] <ic56> nickrud: hda1 is different from hda.  The boot sector of the disk isn't overwritten when you dd of=/dev/hda1
[09:07] <aaron__> one thing that seemed weird : when in fdisk and trying to delete partitions it first said pick 1-5
[09:07] <AnAnt> skeff: cool, thx
[09:08] <aaron__> then after I deleted 1 of them, it said pick 1-4..But wouldnt delete them coz it said they were empty names or something
[09:08] <skeff> AnAnt, heh, if you care, somebody else might care, but either way, now you may know it. For the time when you lose your ati or nvidia driver
[09:08] <AnAnt> holy_cow: u mean I can add the source not binary repository?
[09:08] <AnAnt> skeff: well, I am mostly on virtual console
[09:08] <nickrud> ic56, I was thinking that whatever he had on hda1 (usually windows or it's backup) was hosed
[09:08] <aaron__> theres NOTHING on these
[09:08] <holy_cow> AnAnt, i would presume so, never done that tho ....
[09:08] <zith> how do I figure out free hard drive space on each of my drives?
[09:09] <AnAnt> skeff: are u good at linux console ? I have a couple of problems here
[09:09] <AnAnt> zith: df -h
[09:09] <holy_cow> aaron__, chances are there is,most windows users don't know anything about boot sector and thats always there after a reformat
[09:09] <AnAnt> zith: that's for mounted partitions
[09:09] <nickrud> ic56, if I came in late enough that that was wrong, that's just fine :)
[09:09] <zith> AnAnt: thanks :)
[09:09] <aaron__> :/ a volunteer installed ubuntu earlier in the week and formatted all the drives during the install
[09:09] <AnAnt> np
[09:09] <holy_cow> aaron__, thats the problem
[09:10] <holy_cow> aaron__, your old ubuntu bootsector is looking for the OLD ubuntu kernel
[09:10] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i'm back... still not showing.  i've got:  lo   Link encap: Local Loopback     and     sit0   Link encap: IPv6-n-IPv4
[09:10] <AnAnt> I got a problem with Ubuntu's virtual console
[09:10] <AnAnt> when I press Shift+PageUP , I get this:
[09:10] <AnAnt> [4296178.253000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[09:10] <fogos> hi someone knows on what folders are the videocard drivers of xorg?
[09:10] <AnAnt> [4296178.253000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[09:10] <AnAnt> anyone knows what I should do ?
[09:10] <sethk> SimplyFlower, ok.  the lo is loopback; it has nothing to do with hardware.  sit0 is a virtual ipv6 interface which also  is not relevant.
[09:10] <aaron__> hmm.. okay holy_cow...
[09:11] <N2DIY> sit0? What's that?
[09:11] <sethk> SimplyFlower, what I would normally do in a case like this is to rebuild the kernel with the driver compiled into the kernel (instead of using a module).
[09:11] <sethk> N2DIY, that's an ipv6 thing, ignore it.
[09:11] <N2DIY> 70-4
[09:11] <sethk> N2DIY, your systems will likely show it if you do ifconfig -a
[09:12] <N2DIY> whoops, I meant 10-4
[09:12] <sethk> N2DIY, :)
[09:12] <sethk> SimplyFlower, odds are it still won't work, though
[09:12] <holy_cow> aaron__, what i don't get is how the instructions they gave you have anything to do with a bootloader, i don't see how a  bootloader would know where your dd'd image is
[09:12] <sethk> SimplyFlower, where did the information about the NIC's chip set come from?
[09:12] <aaron__> i dunno.
[09:13] <holy_cow> ic56, any ideas?
[09:13] <sethk> holy_cow, from a network server probably using BOOTP or PXE
[09:13] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  from device manager
[09:13] <holy_cow> sethk, should he then just dd out his bootsector?
[09:13] <aaron__> i am setting up a lab of thin clients
[09:13] <aaron__> but they cant boot from the network
[09:14] <holy_cow> ... yet
[09:14] <holy_cow> don't give up dude
[09:14] <aaron__> so the instructions say to put something on the HD that will pull it over the network.. so
[09:14] <_harm> how do i remove games from ubuntu?
[09:14] <holy_cow> with synaptic harm
[09:14] <sethk> aaron__, you shouldn't have to resort to using dd
[09:14] <_harm> k
[09:14] <sethk> aaron__, if your hardware supports BOOTP, that's much easier.  Sometimes you need extra firmware on the NICs for bootp
[09:14] <ic56> holy_cow: the instructions for setting up thinclients assume a generic boot loader exists on the drive which will look in the first partition.  This is a reasonable assumption for new systems.
[09:14] <sethk> aaron__, or support in the BIOS
[09:15] <holy_cow> ic56, ah okay
[09:15] <sethk> aaron__, the thing with dd is a hack for machines that don't really support network boot
[09:15] <aaron__> ok
[09:15] <aaron__> theres no option in the bios to boot from ethernet
[09:15] <sethk> aaron__, the thing is, any tiny detail will make that sort of hack not work
[09:15] <RobyX> What's a good torrent client for Linux
[09:15] <PhilKC> Azureus.
[09:15] <RobyX> Ok ill try that
[09:15] <PhilKC> Don't use the package manager to get it...
[09:15] <sethk> aaron__, and unless you are good at the network bit level or have a hardware ethernet analyzer (or both), there isn't a lot you can do
[09:15] <aaron__> i dunno what dd is.. im just doing the instructions :/
[09:16] <holy_cow> sethk, so it might be cheaper to just buy nick cards with pxe support eh?
[09:16] <sethk> SimplyFlower, do lspci, if you haven't already, see what it says about the NIC
[09:16] <PhilKC> RobyX, http://azureus.sourceforge.net, grab the bz2 from there, extract, and run...
[09:16] <sethk> holy_cow, sure, but if you are buying, do BOOTP
[09:16] <sethk> holy_cow, the server setup for BOOTP is basically trivial
[09:16] <PhilKC> RobyX, The package manager version is... fubar.
[09:16] <holy_cow> really eh?
[09:16] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  ok ... brb
[09:16] <sethk> holy_cow, you set up a tftp server
[09:16] <sethk> holy_cow, bootp is much newer and much easier, at least to me.
[09:17] <holy_cow> huh
[09:17] <holy_cow> thats neat
[09:17] <aaron__> brb
[09:17] <sethk> hmm, according to this email I just got, I'm going to be the "man that women desire"
[09:17] <sethk> none of the spam filters are worth a damn
[09:18] <holy_cow> seth bootp looks neat
[09:18] <holy_cow> thanks for the heads up
[09:18] <holy_cow> seems all the onboard stuff is pix
[09:18] <aaron__> woah wait
[09:18] <aaron__> omg
[09:18] <aaron__> they can boot
[09:18] <sethk> aaron__, well, that was easy.  :)
[09:19] <sethk> aaron__, what did you do?
[09:19] <holy_cow> lol
[09:19] <aaron__> except the one where we had to replace the motherboard
[09:19] <holy_cow> sethk, you work effin magic
[09:19] <sethk> holy_cow, :)
[09:19] <holy_cow> aaron__, so what happened, you just had to wait?
[09:19] <aaron__> we have 8 but the mobo got fried on one coz of the powersupply
[09:19] <neutrinomass> Hello. I have a weird sound issue with ubuntu 5.10. The sound card is detected OK by the kernel and alsa. Programs play music, the volume is open, the speakers correctly connected but I can hear nothing. How does one troubleshoot such a situation ?
[09:19] <sethk> aaron__, must be different firmware on that mobo (or it's a different mobo)
[09:19] <aaron__> but it says its looing for DHCP and thers not one
[09:19] <aaron__> :/
[09:19] <sethk> aaron__, that's easy to set up
[09:19] <sethk> aaron__, three minutes
[09:20] <holy_cow> aaron__, :) dude
[09:20] <mephisto_> hallo
[09:20] <sethk> neutrinomass, if it has a headphone jack, plug in a pair of phones and see if you hear anything
[09:20] <holy_cow> do you have any idea how advanced your stupid little project is for someone thats never seen linux?
[09:20] <holy_cow> :)
[09:20] <sethk> neutrinomass, make sure the levels are up on the input part of the mixer, not just the output
[09:20] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  i'm back.  lspci lists:  Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21142/43 (rev 30)
[09:20] <holy_cow> welcome to linux where EVERYTHING is possible bro
[09:20] <etmnt> anyknow know where I can get Gnome 2.14 in .deb?
[09:20] <aaron__> mka.. so i got the edubuntu server setup with 2 NIC one to the router and one to a hub with the lab
[09:20] <sethk> SimplyFlower, figures, that's where device manager gets it.  that's good confirmation.
[09:20] <sethk> SimplyFlower, do we know that this card works?
[09:21] <sethk> SimplyFlower, that it isn't simply broken?
[09:21] <AndyRR> neutrinomass, use alsamixer in a shell to adjust levels
[09:21] <neutrinomass> sethk: The levels were all up, everything was unmuted! I've had my share of problems with sound, but I couldn't figure this one out.
[09:21] <ic56> aaron__: one of the machines has problems with DHCP while the others which are supposedly identically configured don't?  Something else must be going on.
[09:21] <aaron__> wait the NIC serving DHCP wasnt active
[09:22] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  yes, works fine with PuppyLinux, WindowsXP, and SystemResucue cd (linux)
[09:22] <holy_cow> *cough*
[09:22] <N2DIY> holy_cow, this crap is thirty years old, or older!
[09:22] <sethk> SimplyFlower, ok
[09:22] <neutrinomass> AndyRR: Yes, I tried that, everything was enabled and full volume. The speakers' volume was up too :P I also tried from gnome to select different sound cards (4 show up for no apparent reason) but it didn't work.
[09:22] <holy_cow> N2DIY, well the concepts
[09:22] <holy_cow> lisp basically invented everything all modern languages are re-implementing forever something like almost 50 years ago
[09:22] <holy_cow> :)
[09:22] <holy_cow> neither here nor there
[09:23] <holy_cow> ms is reinventing vms
[09:23] <holy_cow> badly
[09:23] <holy_cow> heh
[09:23] <sethk> SimplyFlower, you probably won't like this idea, but what I would do is download the kernel from kernel.org, build, and install it.  That's the first thing I do with any distro, is get rid of the distro's hacked up kernel and use the vanilla kernel from kernel.org
[09:23] <nickrud> forth, if we're getting into language wars :)
[09:23] <aaron__> okay now this is easy. i just make the server the one with the weird mobo. that just means i switch the memory and HD
[09:23] <sethk> SimplyFlower, for me that's a trivial thing to do, but it would probably take you a couple of hours the first time you learn to do it.
[09:23] <holy_cow> aaron__, i have a question for you
[09:23] <aaron__> sure
[09:23] <holy_cow> aaron__, what on earth prompted you to do something this advanced without doing any research?
[09:24] <holy_cow> where is the benefit for you and the students?
[09:24] <AndyRR> neutrinomass, what soundcard/chipset is it?
[09:24] <zith> what's the recommended way to start a process and have it not terminate when exiting the shell?  i've used screen in the past :/
[09:24] <holy_cow> i mean its aprime example of hackerdom
[09:24] <aaron__> holy_cow
[09:24] <aaron__> coz i wanna get it done
[09:24] <holy_cow> just go for it, its a big difference in philosophy from windows world
[09:24] <holy_cow> i'm just curious
[09:24] <neutrinomass> AndyRR: It's a desktop computer. An Allegro PCI sound card, Sis chipset ....
[09:24] <holy_cow> aaron__, but why linux? you know nothing about it
[09:24] <holy_cow> aaron__, all windows users i've ever watched google for some software they can buy and click and run
[09:25] <ic56> zith: nohup <command> &
[09:25] <holy_cow> infact, you could of done this with windows terminal services fairly easily
[09:25] <neutrinomass> It's not my computer, it's a friends (his words were "What's this crap? Suse just worked here"), and he has no internet access.
[09:25] <aaron__> because that would require pirating software
[09:25] <zith> ic56: thanks for the pointer :)
[09:25] <SimplyFlower> sethk: ok.. how hard is it... what do i need to know... and how do i install it.... and what exactly do i need to install?  i'm a newbie to linux, but not to computers... do have some knowlege, but am a dinosaur got my knowlege almost twenty years ago.
[09:26] <holy_cow> aaron__, ah! so purely out of financial reasons eh?
[09:26] <holy_cow> aaron__, what will the students do on the box?
[09:26] <zith> ic56: as a token of my appreciation, i give you an airplane hanger filled with fire-retardant foam: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/04/15/photos_of_malfing_fi.html
[09:26] <aaron__> holy_cow.... it just nags me when they get messed up and cluttered up with junk. i have a certian way i want them set up
[09:26] <aaron__> its a neighborhood computer lab
[09:26] <aaron__> people check email
[09:26] <holy_cow> ahhhhhh
[09:26] <holy_cow> nice
[09:26] <aaron__> play flash games
[09:27] <aaron__> and kids use gcompris
[09:27] <holy_cow> right for that you did the perfect thing
[09:27] <aaron__> thats really why i wanted it
[09:27] <holy_cow> very cool
[09:27] <N2DIY> 73, goodnite, morning, whatever, I'm goning to bed!
[09:27] <aaron__> and people use open office
[09:27] <neutrinomass> I may have to resort to dapper to get rid of that sound problem...it happens on the livecd too :(
[09:27] <RobyX> What's the command I use before the dkpg -i, to tell the computer where the .deb file is located?
[09:28] <holy_cow> aaron__, nice
[09:28] <nickrud> RobyX, it's cd /where/the/deb/is
[09:28] <aaron__> i dunno how to do this.. i write grants and fundraise and do stuff with volunteers during the day... i had some guy who was a computer expert try to keep these things set up and he was a total loser he didnt know anything
[09:28] <DBO> RobyX, "dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb"
[09:28] <sethk> aaron__, the kids will love it.  they are too young to get intimidated by a little cli
[09:28] <RobyX> Thanks
[09:29] <aaron__> and like all this pirated software got on here.. and he wanted to put windows sharepoint server (whatever that is)
[09:29] <aaron__> no!
[09:29] <holy_cow> sethk, in a weird way, thats a very sad thing to say
[09:29] <nickrud> aaron__, it's a good philosophy to introduce
[09:29] <holy_cow> aaron__, all ms products are designed to sell other ms products
[09:29] <holy_cow> they say they are integrated but they aren't, they are just created to be vaguely interdependent
[09:29] <sethk> holy_cow, it's true, people get intimidated.  they are afraid of typing 30 characters, I've never understood why
[09:30] <holy_cow> they will suck money out of any non profit faster than you can say go
[09:30] <holy_cow> sethk, *nod* me neither
[09:30] <aaron__> we've saved over $5000 using this
[09:30] <holy_cow> at least
[09:30] <aaron__> ifi can figure it out, that is
[09:30] <holy_cow> don't forget counting antispyware and antivirus software
[09:30] <holy_cow> lockdown software
[09:30] <holy_cow> management software
[09:30] <holy_cow> cals
[09:30] <aaron__> thats what i had to do with windows
[09:30] <holy_cow> backups and imaging software because all win install at minimium require it
[09:31] <aaron__> i had to search google and figure out how to hack the registry to disable and hide stuff
[09:31] <nickrud> aaron__, you'd get sufficient support on this server for you non-profit, I'd think
[09:31] <holy_cow> your maintenance will be next to 0
[09:31] <holy_cow> your questions will go from how to fix this machine
[09:31] <aaron__> how do you get support?
[09:31] <holy_cow> to how to use a tool to its best extent
[09:31] <nickrud> aaron__, pay, or figure out who to ask :)
[09:31] <aaron__> aaaahh
[09:32] <holy_cow> lol
[09:32] <holy_cow> i'm still giggling at the sharepoitn server idea for a lab
[09:32] <holy_cow> thats hillarious
[09:33] <holy_cow> aaron__, we are switching to linux
[09:33] <aaron__> whats that?
[09:33] <holy_cow> getting rid of ms products is saving us $280 000 dollars
[09:33] <aaron__> omg
[09:33] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  how do i install the new kernel?  you called it vanilla kernel... is that the actual name i'm looking for to download?
[09:33] <holy_cow> i can take half that money now and invest in training and software development to be rolled back into the community
[09:33] <holy_cow> or will anyway
[09:33] <gean> hi all !
[09:34] <DBO> hi gean
[09:34] <aaron__> wow
[09:34] <holy_cow> everyone wins
[09:34] <sethk> SimplyFlower, go to www.kernel.org.  Download the most recently released 2.6 kernel.
[09:34] <sethk> SimplyFlower, "vanilla" is a common way to describe it but not an official term you'll see anywhere
[09:34] <sethk> SimplyFlower, make sure you download the kernel, not patches.  Almost everyone who goes there downloads patches instead of the kernel the first time
[09:34] <aaron__> but no one who comes in if i leave will know anything about this
[09:35] <DBO> SimplyFlower, more to the point, when talking about computers, "vanilla" usually means plain or standard and unmodified
[09:35] <holy_cow> aaron__, don't be so sure
[09:35] <sethk> SimplyFlower, the site is a bit confusing.  the file you want will be called linux-2.6.15.6.tar.bz2  (probably the 15.6 is out of date and it will be 15.# or 16.#; just get the most recent)
[09:35] <holy_cow> aaron__, you figured it in a day :) surely if one cares enough they can pick up the knowledge too
[09:35] <aaron__> i need to get CS students from the university to do this..but I dunno what their jargon is to ask for
[09:35] <sethk> SimplyFlower, if the file name is not as I described it, you'll be downloading the wrong thing
[09:35] <nickrud> aaron__, just in case you haven't actually seen the front page for this irc server network, you should look at it. http://freenode.net/  It's intended for your useage.
[09:36] <aaron__> ok
[09:36] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  ok... can i save the download to cd so i can transfer it to the other computer?
[09:36] <holy_cow> ask for students with linux experience, preferably ubuntu and the ltsp project
[09:36] <holy_cow> from there you pick who is available with whatever qualification
[09:36] <holy_cow> you don't need a qualification
[09:36] <sethk> SimplyFlower, sure
[09:36] <holy_cow> you need a student with the desire to learn
[09:36] <holy_cow> all linux users have that by default, itsjust how it is
[09:36] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  then i do i install it
[09:37] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  oops meant how do i install it?
[09:37] <aaron__> so i can go to a CS dept and ask for someone who knows linux to setup a lab of thin clients?
[09:37] <aaron__> hmm
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> Uh oh.  Any way to get the secret half of a gpg key back from a keyserver?  Or does it die with a machine?
[09:37] <sethk> SimplyFlower, you extract it.  you go to /usr/src, and do:  tar xvjf ./linux-2.6.15.6.tar.bz2    (I'm assuming you've copied the tar file to /usr/src)
[09:37] <joel_> I'm just trying out Ubuntu for the first time, I haven't messed with linux since Mandrake 6.5.  I've stuck mostly to FreeBSD and the more commercial variants, Solaris, MP-RAS, Unisys, HP-UNIX, etc.  I have to say...
[09:38] <holy_cow> aaron__, pretty much, depends on their internal structure.  usually they point you to their hire or placement deptments
[09:38] <joel_> I am impressed with Ubuntu.
[09:38] <sethk> SimplyFlower, there are good instructions on the kernel.org site
[09:38] <holy_cow> aaron__, you want to find a professor enthusiastic about open source first, they can give you a personal hand up tho
[09:38] <DBO> joel_, yes, we like it too
[09:38] <neutrinomass> joel_: Nice :)
[09:39] <Erpo> I'm trying to compile a modular kernel, so I started with make allmodconfig, and then changed some things (like removing oss and isdn support, and deactivating smp). Then I followed up with a make, a make install, and a make modules_install. Then I ran mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.16.2 2.6.16.2 (that's the kernel version I just compiled), and then I updated /boot/grub/menu.lst to reflect the changed. When I try to boot with the new kerne
[09:39] <Erpo> l, I get a kernel panic. What gives?
[09:39] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, if you search my name on the key servers, you'll see a couple of dead machines ;(
[09:39] <holy_cow> okay time to try kororaa on this thin
[09:39] <holy_cow> bbl
[09:39] <aaron__> ah kewl thats a good idea
[09:39] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  ok... i will try it.  thank you for your patience and all your help.
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Gotcha.  So I should revoke this one and start over?  Oh wait, I probably can't even revoke it now can I?
[09:39] <neutrinomass> Erpo: Unable to mount root? You can't have a totally modular kernel....support for your IDE controller and root filesystem should be compiled in the kernel.
[09:40] <Erpo> neutrinomass: It can't be compiled as a module and then loaded via initrd?
[09:40] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, probably not. If you didn't make revoke certificate and save it, you're just dangling in the wind
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Oops.
[09:40] <sethk> SimplyFlower, understand that you could go through this and find out it doesn't fix it.  I think it's the best thing to try next, but I can't guarantee results
[09:41] <Erpo> I thought the boot loader was responsible for loading the initrd and making the necessary modules (including the hdd controller and root filesystem drivers) available to the kernel.
[09:41] <gean> SimplyFlower : to extract stuff in general : install the (ubuntu) package called     unp          (e.g. by synaptic), then simply type unp stuff.bz2 or stuff.tar or stupp.zip; the package will always do the right thing (for rar-files one needs the non-free version of rar -some uni or multiverse- to be installed on sys)
[09:41] <neutrinomass> Erpo: I don't know, I've never used initrd....when compiling a normal kernel though, no. It can't read your HD without the ide controller, and cannot read the filesystem without ext3 support.
[09:41] <nickrud> tonyyarusso :)
[09:42] <SimplyFlower> sethk:  ok... i guess if this doesn't work ubuntu just won't work on my other computer :(
[09:42] <neutrinomass> gean: It's in multiverse, "unrar"
[09:42] <sethk> SimplyFlower, it can.  eventually you'll find the problem.  but it might be more trouble than it's worth.
[09:42] <gean> neutrinomas yep..
[09:43] <aaron__> nickrud : im filling out your form
[09:43] <sethk> SimplyFlower, it's more common for hardware to not work with other distros and work with ubuntu, but there are always odd cases.
[09:43] <aaron__> whats this biz about the channel?
[09:43] <nickrud> aaron__, what form?
[09:43] <aaron__> Group Contact Form
[09:43] <SimplyFlower> gean:  i can't install using synaptic because i have no internet connection on that computer.
[09:43] <neutrinomass> sethk: Grrr...my friend's sound card for example :P
[09:43] <aaron__> its on freenode.net
[09:44] <DBO> SimplyFlower, download the debs on another PC and transfer them with CD
[09:44] <DBO> then use dpkg -i to install them
[09:44] <gean> SimplyFlower Oh... it also happens for me at home..
[09:45] <nickrud> aaron__, cool that you're using it. I just know one person associated with this network. If he's a sample, you'll probably get good feedback from that contact you're makeing
[09:45] <aaron__> cool
[09:45] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  where do i find the debs that synaptic downloads?
[09:45] <DBO> SimplyFlower, are you on another linux box?
[09:46] <nubi-> hello
[09:46] <nubi-> how to install iptables on ubuntu?
[09:46] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  yes, i have 2 computers, one can connect to the internet with ubuntu, the other one can't which is what i'm trying to fix
[09:47] <DBO> SimplyFlower, "sudo apt-get -d install package"
[09:47] <Psykus> hey, can't seem to get sound working with frozen bubble, gives this error output in the terminal, ""Warning: can't initialize sound (reason: No available audio device)"
[09:47] <nickrud> nubi-, iptables are already installed, a couple of front ends are shorewall and firestarter
[09:47] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  what does that do?
[09:47] <Psykus> sound works for other parts of ubuntu
[09:48] <DBO> SimplyFlower, it will download the file to /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:48] <DBO> SimplyFlower, it will not install it however
[09:49] <Psykus> i do have an old version of ubuntu though, need to get the newer version back from my friend...using hoary now, friend has the breezy CD (i'm on dial-up so I can't exactly dist upgrade)
[09:50] <DBO> Psykus, does the sound work anywhere else?
[09:50] <Psykus> yes
[09:50] <nickrud> Psykus, you can upgrade from your friends breezy cd, I would think
[09:50] <SimplyFlower> DBO: ok... if i understand... sudo apt-get -d whateverpackage then i can find it to copy it to cd
[09:50] <Psykus> yes, I meant he has the CD, I need to get it from him
[09:50] <Psykus> i recently re-installed, and only had the old CD around
[09:50] <DBO> SimplyFlower, you got it, smart girl =)
[09:51] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  thank you :)
[09:51] <s|k> !rhythmbox
[09:51] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, s|k
[09:51] <Psykus> i mentioned it because I figured it might of been fixed for breezy
[09:51] <s|k> !rhythymbox
[09:51] <ubotu> s|k: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:51] <s|k> :/
[09:51] <nickrud> !info rhythmbox
[09:51] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.0-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 1565 kB, Installed size: 4724 kB
[09:51] <DBO> s|k, what do you want to know?
[09:51] <s|k> !version rhythmbox dapper
[09:51] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, s|k
[09:51] <s|k> ah
[09:52] <kenneth> what is the difference between "hibernation" and "standby" power modes?
[09:52] <s|k> DBO what version of rhythmbox is in dapper
[09:52] <hintswen> i don't know my root password, i was never asked for 1 when i installed. i only know my account's username and password
[09:52] <hintswen> or is that my root password?
[09:52] <Ohzie> hintswen: There is no root password.
[09:53] <nickrud> !info rhythmbox dapper
[09:53] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.3.1-0ubuntu7 (dapper), Packaged size: 1758 kB, Installed size: 6332 kB
[09:53] <Psykus> hintswen, use sudo before the commands you need root for
[09:53] <hintswen> so root is my account?
[09:53] <Ohzie> Type sudo su
[09:53] <Psykus> like:
[09:53] <Ohzie> Then type your user's password
[09:53] <nickrud> heh, it worked :)
[09:53] <DBO> s|k, .9.3.1
[09:53] <Psykus> sudo apt-get install package
[09:53] <Ohzie> And then run passwd root to give it a password.
[09:53] <s|k> DBO: thanks
[09:54] <DBO> hintswen, you dont need root, it is locked by default and should stay that way.  Use sudo instead =)  security is good
[09:54] <hintswen> oh, so if i type 'sudo su' and set a password that will create a account with username root and password i set?
[09:54] <DBO> hintswen, root already exists, it is just locked
[09:54] <hintswen> okay
[09:55] <Psykus> hintswen, use sudo before the commands you need root for
[09:55] <SimplyFlower> one more question before i go... when i installed ubuntu, grub wouldn't work... so i had to use lilo, but am no longer able to boot to windowsXP only Ubuntu.  what do i need to do so i can dual boot.  It took me 2 days just to get the computer to boot to ubuntu.
[09:55] <Psykus> like, sudo apt-get install package
[09:55] <hintswen> okay thanks... and 2 more questions
[09:55] <hintswen> can i 'remote desktop' my ubuntu from my windows box? or something similar
[09:55] <hintswen> i need GUI
[09:55] <jdu> how do I display a certain number of characters of a variable e.g. first 3?
[09:55] <DBO> SimplyFlower, can you be more descriptive about how "grub wouldnt work"
[09:55] <Psykus> hintswen, yes, ubuntu has something called VNC built in
[09:55] <DBO> hintswen, VNC will do the trick
[09:55] <Psykus> :P
[09:56] <hintswen> ok how do i set up VNC on it lol
[09:56] <DBO> :P
[09:56] <hintswen> and what's a windows VNC program that IS un-inatlallable
[09:56] <Psykus> here's a good program to use for it on the windows side: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/vnc.html
[09:56] <Psykus> ^
[09:56] <DBO> hintswen, System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[09:56] <hintswen> cause i had Real VNC on my old comp and people said it's not good cause u casn't fully remove it
[09:56] <Psykus> oh
[09:57] <DBO> hintswen, then use tight VNC or ultraVNC if you dont like realVNC
[09:57] <hintswen> it's not that i don't like it, just others don't like it lol. i thought it was great
[09:58] <nickrud> hintswen, you're probably not going to get anyone to go out on a limb for any windows tool here
[09:58] <hintswen> ok last question: is there some way i can store files on my ubuntu, transfering them to it from my other computer
[09:58] <DBO> hintswen, you mean like Samba file shares?
[09:58] <hintswen> no idea what that is
[09:58] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  tried installing grub to floppy, partition, and to the mbr, in all cases when i tried to reboot grub gave an error message and wouldn't boot my computer at all.  I couldn't even get into windowsXP.  Had to restore the mbr with fdisk and tried clean installing several times.  same problems.  finally installed with lilo, but now can't boot to windowsXP only Ubuntu.
[09:58] <nickrud> hintswen, or writing to a cd?
[09:59] <DBO> hintswen, Samba is a way to share files over the network between linux and windows
[09:59] <hintswen> i mean moving files from this computer to my ubuntu
[09:59] <hintswen> like FTP or something
[09:59] <DBO> SimplyFlower, do you know what error message it gave?
[09:59] <hintswen> or can i get it to appear on 'my network places' so i can easily drag and drop files?
[09:59] <bliss1_> DBO: your looking god!
[09:59] <hedrek> Q:  I am getting "mount:  /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/hda1 busy".. it's not mounted, it worked in the 2.6.15ubuntu kernel and now doesn't work with my self compiled 2.6.16 using the same .config
[10:00] <DBO> hintswen, yes, you do that with samba
[10:00] <hintswen> ok where do i get it?
[10:00] <DBO> hintswen, "sudo apt-get install samba"
[10:01] <DBO> bliss1_, I look god every day, or so I like to think =P
[10:01] <SimplyFlower> DBO: one i remember is grub error 15, otherwise my computer just told me to insert a floppy disk
[10:01] <DBO> hedrek, just for kicks and giggles, try changing its mount point
[10:01] <hintswen> done, now can i FTp it or how do i move files onto it?
[10:02] <DBO> hintswen, open nautilus window and navigate so you can see the folder you want to share
[10:02] <DBO> right click on it, and select Share Folder
[10:02] <s|k> I'm compiling rhythymbox 9.4 from source :<
[10:02] <s|k> I compiled 3.9 from source when I was on breezy
[10:02] <bliss1_> DBO; your to modest
[10:02] <s|k> and it broke on dapper
[10:03] <hedrek> DBO: same thing, changed dirs, made a new mount point, "mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1" and got the message again
[10:03] <DBO> hintswen, it will give an option for share with, select SMB, then for name select a name, and check "Allow browsing folder"
[10:04] <DBO> hintswen, then select Genereal Windows Share Settings, and change your workgroup to match your XP machines workgroup, press ok on both windows, and go have fun =)
[10:04] <DBO> hedrek, command "mount" -> pastebin
[10:04] <nickrud> SimplyFlower, if you'd put your working lilo config up, I might be able to remember what to add for a standard windows boot
[10:05] <bliss1_> nickrud; man your not in bed!
[10:05] <SimplyFlower> DBO: where do i find it?
[10:05] <DBO> SimplyFlower, I dont know... I dont do lilo, sorry =(
[10:06] <nickrud> bliss1_, no, I still have an appliance in my mouth, which is driving my crazy
[10:06] <DBO> nickrud, blender?
[10:06] <nickrud> DBO, broken jaw :)
[10:06] <SimplyFlower> DBO: give me a minute i will try to find it... brb
[10:06] <DBO> nickrud, that will teach you to get in bar fights, well, at least we know the other guy was really messed up =)
[10:06] <nickrud> but the blender is a truly marvelous invention
[10:06] <hedrek> DBO: ok, sent
[10:06] <FearMoth> should I have to modprobe lirc_serial or put it in /etc/modules for lirc to work, or does it do that when I build and install it? mode2 and irrecord only seem to work if I modprobe first
[10:07] <DBO> hedrek, ok, link?
[10:07] <harisund> Does anybody here use the GNU Screen program while SSHing?
[10:07] <DBO> (my crystal ball is broke, sorry)
[10:07] <nickrud> DBO, im 50 years old, haven't been in a fight since I was 14, and it happened at my front door, and it was my stupidity. I'm still looking for the computation :)
[10:07] <bliss1_> nickrud: bliss_ gets the sledge hammer out
[10:07] <hedrek> DBO: i guess that would be 12915?  paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12915
[10:08] <s|k> DBO: where are programs usually stored?
[10:08] <s|k> do you know?
[10:08] <Tidus> s|k: usually /usr/bin
[10:08] <s|k> Tidus: thanks
[10:08] <DBO> s|k, stuff you compile yourself should go into /opt
[10:08] <Tidus> harisund: yes, i use screen on SSH
[10:09] <harisund> Tidus: Ah awesome. Have you ever got disconnected because, perhaps, of a bad internet?
[10:09] <Tidus> harisund: yes... more than once.
[10:09] <Tidus> lol
[10:09] <harisund> Tidus: Now when I reconnect, how do I get back to that screen? screen -r tells me that the screen is already attached.
[10:09] <Tidus> harisund: screen -x
[10:09] <_jim_> hey guys , yesterday i mounted 2 partitions - today i turned on the pc and they are gone ....... any help ?
[10:10] <DBO> _jim_, did you add them to /etc/fstab?
[10:10] <_jim_> no
[10:10] <nickrud> _jim_, you need to add the mount definitions to /etc/fstab to make them permanent
[10:10] <_jim_> i cant edit them by my account
[10:10] <harisund> Tidus: Really? That's great .. wow .. I knew #ubuntu would be the answer to all my questions :) thanks a ton ..
[10:10] <Tidus> harisund: np
[10:10] <DBO> !tell _jim_ about fstab
[10:10] <_jim_> do you know how to logon as root by the logon screen ?
[10:10] <DBO> _jim_, you have to use "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" to edit it
[10:11] <holy_cow> jim you can't
[10:11] <Tidus> harisund: that's general linux information, not ubuntu specific... works on gentoo, debian, ubuntu, mandrake(iva), slack, FC .... any others i might have forgotten...
[10:11] <holy_cow> !root
[10:11] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:11] <_jim_> thnx guys
[10:11] <s|k> yay rhythmbox works
[10:11] <s|k> :D
[10:11] <s|k> .9.4 even
[10:11] <nickrud> bliss1_, I'm almost wishing I'd missed the sledgehammer comment, I already one that part of it :)
[10:11] <holy_cow> !xgl
[10:11] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:11] <harisund> Tidus: oh .. Ok .. thanks for that info .. is there any general #linux channel :) ?
[10:11] <zzz_> join
[10:12] <holy_cow> anyone here have 915gm chipset and run xgl?
[10:12] <Tidus> harisund: ##linux is a general linux channel
[10:12] <_jim_> how i run diskmounter ? i have a code
[10:12] <dbug> anyone know where i disable the modules not used in the boot?
[10:12] <s|k> rhythmbox .9.4 comes with podcast support heh
[10:13] <harisund> Tidus Is the double '#' a typo, or is it specifically 2 '#' ?
[10:13] <kurimaw> guys... i've installed limewire... i was able to successfully installed but it doesn't show in any menu.. where can i find the file and how can i execute it?
[10:13] <Tidus> harisund: specifically 2 "#"
[10:13] <nickrud> dbug, any modules you don't want loaded should be mentioned in /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[10:13] <harisund> kurimaw: How did you install limewire? Using the repositories?
[10:13] <kurimaw> i think from the limewire website
[10:13] <s|k> harisund: two # means it's a support channel
[10:13] <s|k> er
[10:13] <s|k> an about channel
[10:14] <harisund> kurimaw: if all had gone right, you can execute it by typing Alt+F2 (which is like the Windows RUN command) and type there 'limewire'
[10:14] <DBO> hedrek, oops, forgot to tell you what I wanted you to do.  type "umount /dev/hda1" and tell me the output
[10:14] <harisund> s|k Oh I see..
[10:14] <Tidus> s|k: their 'technical' name is 'unofficial channel' but it works either way
[10:14] <klos_> im looking for a tool to encrypt my hdd for ubuntu
[10:14] <nickrud> kurimaw, you'd need to create your own launcher for it applications->system tools->menu editor I thin
[10:14] <kurimaw> it sayd could not run the specified command
[10:14] <dbug> nickrud, and where i see the actual list modules load in boot ?
[10:14] <DBO> hedrek, correction "sudo umount /dev/hda1"
[10:15] <Tidus> dbug: /sbin/lsmod
[10:15] <kurimaw> ok thanks.
[10:15] <nickrud> dbug, lsmod ?
[10:15] <FearMoth> has anyone had much luck getting xgl working with an ATI Radeon 9550?
[10:15] <hedrek> DBO: umount: /dev/hda1: not mounted
[10:15] <_jim_> im trying to run diskmounter by using ./diskmounter in the dir but it says permission denied
[10:15] <nickrud> _jim_, usually that means you want to run the program with sudo
[10:16] <dbug> tks
[10:16] <_jim_> im already by root
[10:16] <_jim_> isnt the same ?
[10:17] <hedrek> DBO: i think I will not pursue this much further for time constraints, I appreciate your help
[10:17] <nickrud> _jim_, yes, but having root get permission denied is not common
[10:18] <DBO> hedrek, "sudo mkdir /media/windows"
[10:18] <_jim_> hmmm
[10:18] <zoxmel> I tried upgrading to dapper, and now after I log in to gnome it just stays at a brown screen :/ ... any suggestions?
[10:18] <DBO> hedrek, then "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" and add the line "/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    ro,user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000     0       3"
[10:18] <DBO> hedrek, then "sudo mount -a"
[10:18] <hedrek> DBO:  Ok, I will try that, sec
[10:19] <_jim_> i tried with sudo and it asked for the pass and after that nothing happened
[10:19] <_jim_> the script run ?
[10:19] <holy_cow> *hmm* how do you turn on direct rendering in ubuntu?
[10:19] <DBO> !tell zoxmel about dapper
[10:19] <holy_cow> !dri
[10:19] <ubotu> holy_cow: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:20] <sifl_> i'm having issues w/ apache where i can load my .php files through a browser, but the .html files give me directory permissions errors....any suggestions?
[10:20] <bliss1_> nickrud: can you open the window in your office can smell the stuf on your jaw from here
[10:21] <nickrud> bliss1_, I brushed my teeth as much as the pain would allow :) and on that, and 36 hours till metal is gone, good night
[10:22] <_jim_> guys a little help please or gimme any link...
[10:22] <_jim_> the script cannot be run
[10:22] <DBO> _jim_, what are you trying to do again?
[10:22] <_jim_> i type sudo ./diskmounter  , type pass and nothing happens
[10:23] <asdf25> anyone know what package i should install to get manpages for unix api functions, ie. sockets?
[10:23] <DBO> ok
[10:23] <DBO> _jim_, what are you trying to mount, and where do you want to mount it?
[10:23] <bliss1_> where do i get the package from this sentence not in apt-get To get the source including the patches I looked for the kernel-tree-2.6.8 meta package and installed it
[10:23] <hedrek> DBO: that didn't work , got same 'already mounted' error... went back to generic kernel and it is working again, i must have fouled something up! anyway it is off to be, thanks
[10:23] <_jim_> i want to mount my 2 fat32 partitions
[10:23] <ompaul> _jim_, if your trying to work with disks try System Administration Disks - its fairly easy to use
[10:23] <_jim_> it cannot be accessed
[10:23] <_jim_> like many things
[10:23] <_jim_> i dont know why
[10:24] <_jim_> i run it and simply nothing happens
[10:24] <ompaul> _jim_, stop a second
[10:24] <DBO> _jim_, step by step instructions -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:25] <gean> _jim : hm try sudo bash from a terminal..., then u r root in a terminal, maybe there is some message (error) when trying to mount : alternatively : use the GUI , nautilus , it mounts by click... (usually detects all devices) , just as an idea... (u had better)
[10:25] <ompaul> _jim_, in the terminal type >> sudo id << what is the first word returned for uid?
[10:26] <_jim_> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[10:26] <_jim_> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[10:26] <_jim_> sry
[10:26] <_jim_> that one by using >> sudo id <<
[10:26] <Jasey> help!
[10:27] <ompaul> !anyone
[10:27] <ubotu> I guess anyone is a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[10:27] <DBO> what is your problme?
[10:27] <Jasey> im trying to install a package which cant find its dependency. yet it is installed already :(
[10:27] <Jasey> confusion on set
[10:27] <MM2> I'm trying to set up ltsp-server with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto and in step 2 "Build the thin client runtime..." I get error failed getting release file http://us.archive... what to do?
[10:27] <DBO> Jasey, can you be more specific about the packages?
[10:27] <ompaul> _jim_, leave out the arrow heads the part in the middle is the command
[10:27] <Jasey> well
[10:27] <Jasey> umm
[10:27] <Jasey> give me a mo
[10:27] <ompaul> !enter
[10:27] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:28] <Jasey> sorry
[10:28] <DBO> its ok, you're new
[10:28] <Jasey> im not new ive been here before lol
[10:28] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  i'm back... found the lilo.config looking at it appears to have windows listed as other operating system.
[10:28] <DBO> SimplyFlower, yes that is correct, can you post your lilo config to pastebin?
[10:29] <gean> by the way : ANY1 any idea, how can i ENLARGE (as secure as possible) my own 30GB lptop partition (ubuntu-linux from it now) to the whole (40GB) laptop hd.. (there will be no wind* and wine on this hd)
[10:29] <_jim_> dbo
[10:29] <Jasey> erm, so im trying to install libgcc1_4.1.0-1+b1_i386, which says it cant find its dependency libc6. but that already seems to be installed.
[10:29] <DBO> gean, liveboot then use gparted
[10:29] <DBO> _jim_,
[10:29] <_jim_> i type that wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter@
[10:29] <_jim_> i download it
[10:29] <_jim_> (without the @)
[10:30] <_jim_> then type that : sudo bash diskmounter
[10:30] <_jim_> and nothing happens
[10:30] <_jim_> the file its in Home i see
[10:30] <DBO> _jim_, what is the filename?
[10:30] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  how would i do that... i assume i would have to first save it to a floppy to transfer it to this computer... then how would i post it to pastebin?
[10:30] <DBO> !pastebin
[10:30] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:31] <gean> DBO : so : i use the ubuntu-live CD, and inside of it the gparted dialog sttarting ? There is also some gparted in the ubuntu-Applications-SystemTools , would it also work ?!
[10:31] <ompaul> _jim_, I asked you to leave out the <<>> and run the part in the middle >> sudo id <<
[10:31] <DBO> gean, no, you need to use the liveboot to work on your root partition
[10:32] <_jim_> sorry ompaul what do you mean
[10:32] <_jim_> i run >> sudo id << without >><< and nothing happens
[10:32] <MM2> I'm trying to set up ltsp-server with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto and in step 2 "Build the thin client runtime..." I get error failed getting release file http://us.archive... what to do?
[10:33] <montbazin> hello, please can someone tell me how to reduce the size of the icons on the desktop, thanx
[10:33] <ompaul> _jim_, are you saying you have run        sudo id              and get no reply?
[10:33] <_jim_> yes
[10:33] <teletubbie> hi
[10:33] <teletubbie> !scilab
[10:33] <ubotu> teletubbie: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:33] <teletubbie> why can I only find the old scilab version in apt?
[10:34] <_jim_> i see it now by connecting in root first
[10:34] <_jim_> :)
[10:34] <DBO> teletubbie, because that is the version in the repos
[10:34] <_jim_> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[10:34] <teletubbie> I remember I got scilab 4 before using apt
[10:34] <teletubbie> any one on dapper?
[10:34] <nicholaspaul> montbazin: try System/Admin/Themes - installing new themes would def. work.
[10:34] <teletubbie> can you do a search scilab?
[10:34] <nicholaspaul> teletubbie: Dapper right here.
[10:35] <teletubbie> nicholaspaul, apt-cache search scilab
[10:35] <DBO> !info scilab dapper
[10:35] <ubotu> scilab: (Matrix-based scientific software package (a la Matlab and Xmath)), section multiverse/math, is optional. Version: 3.0-12 (dapper), Packaged size: 2395 kB, Installed size: 28956 kB
[10:35] <SimplyFlower> DBO: am not quite understanding?  i have to install a package called pastebin in order to use it?
[10:35] <ompaul> _jim_, your able to be root so what you need to do is >> sudo ./diskmounter  <<  same rules apply
[10:35] <montbazin> thanx, nicholaspaul
[10:35] <nicholaspaul> np
[10:35] <DBO> SimplyFlower, no, you just go to the website that is listed and paste it up there
[10:35] <DBO> SimplyFlower, you know what, just join #dbo and paste it there...
[10:36] <_jim_> root@10:/home/jimoupas# sudo bash diskmounter
[10:36] <_jim_> yay
[10:36] <nicholaspaul> teletubbie: which file are you looking for?
[10:36] <_jim_> thx man
[10:36] <_jim_> now its like a wizard /
[10:36] <teletubbie> I already got it. it looks like the old version is in dapper also
[10:36] <SimplyFlower> DBO: i don't know how to paste to a chat
[10:36] <nicholaspaul> teletubbie: oh ok.
[10:37] <_jim_> i think i did it
[10:37] <nicholaspaul> Does anyone know if you can schedule startup ???
[10:37] <DBO> SimplyFlower, ok, just go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste it into the text box, and click send.   Then all you need to do is send me the resulting link
[10:37] <gean> DBO : please give me a hint (or link) about *liveboot* (to work on my hda), just googled liveboot+gparted an got no useful stuff...
[10:37] <noodleman> hey, im having problems with an Edubuntu install. Anyone want to help?
[10:38] <Nermal> nicholaspaul: ?
[10:38] <DBO> gean, did you download the discs yourself or did you get the pressed discs?
[10:38] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  ok will try... give me a few minutes ok?  brb
[10:38] <noodleman> I keep getting a repeated "killed" message when I install
[10:38] <montbazin> nicholaspaul: I didn't find anything to chancge the icon size in "System/Prefs/Temes"
[10:38] <_jim_> any clue why i cant access my Ntfs primary partition ? im getting this : You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda1".
[10:38] <nicholaspaul> Nermal: in some OS's (like OS 9) you can schedule the machine to startup/shutdown at  certain times of the day.
[10:38] <axisme> jim
[10:38] <Nermal> _jim_: I'm guessing you do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda1".
[10:38] <DBO> SimplyFlower, okie dokie
[10:39] <axisme> use sudo
[10:39] <DBO> gean, http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso
[10:39] <Nermal> add umask=022 to the mount options in /etc/fstab ?
[10:39] <montbazin> I remeber there was somethin to change the size if icons but I don't remember where
[10:39] <nicholaspaul> montbazin: sorry.
[10:39] <teletubbie> !upgrade
[10:39] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[10:39] <montbazin> nicholaspaul, never mind
[10:40] <_jim_> how i can change the permissions so i can see the ntfs ?
[10:40] <_jim_> by sudo which one command ?
[10:40] <gean> DBO, it was a ubuntu-install-CD (downloaded from some short working knoppix), then all packages were installed fron the net... yes, i should also have the live-CD version for ubuntu... so ubuntu-live-CD can enlarge ``me'' ?!
[10:41] <axisme> sudo nautilus
[10:41] <DBO> gean, yes, it can resize your primary partition
[10:41] <axisme> thats the lazy way of accessing it :-)
[10:41] <_jim_> yay i got it now :)
[10:41] <_jim_> thansk
[10:41] <axisme> i prefer it like that
[10:41] <osfameron> Is flash plugin 8.0 packaged for Hoary ?
[10:41] <_jim_> isnt there a way to access it directly ?
[10:41] <DBO> montbazin, just right click on the icon and select stretch icon
[10:41] <gean> DBO, ok ! thanks a lot, i'll try it after the session today ! (*Appreciate the hints*)
[10:41] <_jim_> without terminal ?
[10:42] <DBO> _jim_, you have to set the uid=1000 option while mounting so you own it persay
[10:42] <osfameron> oh, ffs, Flash 8 isn't available for Linux ?
[10:42] <ivoks> uh, lots of people :)
[10:43] <DBO> ivoks, yep, 700 is about were it peaks
[10:43] <mDot> osfameron nope
[10:43] <_jim_> o so i edit the fstab ?
[10:43] <DBO> where*
[10:43] <DBO> _jim_, I dont know how you mounted it, but if you used the fstab, yes, you have to edit that
[10:43] <teletubbie> !performance
[10:43] <ubotu> teletubbie: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:43] <[nige] > is there a linux networking channel by any chance?
[10:44] <teletubbie> ##linux
[10:45] <osfameron> mDot: that's annoying.  (I'm supposed to be developing a flash video player thingummy, which currently seems to require Flash 8...  this is going to be fun
[10:45] <mDot> osfameron agreed
[10:45] <teletubbie> I have a very strange problem here :\
[10:46] <teletubbie> I can download files at 500kb/s from a website but can't transfer files at 500 kb/s from a lan server :\
[10:46] <DBO> teletubbie, have you verified that the lan server is not the issue?
[10:46] <teletubbie> another lan client could transfer at 500kb/s :\
[10:47] <teletubbie> the server is connected through cable to the wireless router
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> Could someone please hilight me quick?
[10:47] <DBO> sure tonyyarusso
[10:47] <teletubbie> and my pc is connected via wireless at 48mbps
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> DBO: Thanks.  (Worked.)
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> Now to find out if Dapper lets me hibernate...
[10:48] <MM2> I'm trying to set up ltsp-server with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto and in step 2 "Build the thin client runtime..." I get error failed getting release file http://us.archive... what to do?
[10:48] <DBO> tonyyarusso, maken sure your swap has been embiggened enough for the swap to hold everything (so what if I watch too much simpsons)
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> DBO: How big are we talking?
[10:49] <DBO> tonyyarusso, must at LEAST be larger than your physical RAM
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> DBO: Okay.
[10:49] <ic56> teletubbie: and the other LAN client is similarly connected to the router via wireless?
[10:50] <teletubbie> yep
[10:50] <_jim_> is there any program to download from repositaries ?
[10:50] <DBO> teletubbie, what kind of signal strength are you getting?
[10:50] <teletubbie> at 11mbps :\
[10:50] <DBO> _jim_, like apt-get?
[10:50] <teletubbie> and mine is on 48 or 52mbps
[10:50] <_jim_> something different
[10:50] <_jim_> apt-get works only from terminal... right ?
[10:50] <teletubbie> uality=73/100 using iwconfig
[10:50] <DBO> _jim_, like synaptics?
[10:51] <_jim_> synaptics doesnt run by System/Admin
[10:51] <DBO> _jim_, o rly?  well then, what happens when you click it?
[10:51] <_jim_> it asks for a pass
[10:51] <_jim_> i type my root pass right ?
[10:52] <DBO> _jim_, no, you type YOUR password
[10:52] <_jim_> ok
[10:52] <_jim_> its the same pass anyway...
[10:52] <DBO> O_o
[10:52] <mikemiezter> loz
[10:52] <_jim_> press ok and the window dissapears
[10:52] <DBO> such security
[10:52] <_jim_> yeah :)
[10:53] <_jim_> many things doesnt work and i dont know why
[10:53] <_jim_> SYSTEM/admin/disks
[10:53] <_jim_> too
[10:53] <DBO> _jim_, in terminal "ps -ef | grep synaptic | wc -l"
[10:53] <cedric_> bonjour
[10:54] <carbonx_> 
[10:54] <_jim_> im getting a 1
[10:54] <DBO> _jim_, ok, what I thought...
[10:54] <cedric_> quelqu'un connait la commande pour demarrer Ubuntu directement en mode graphique je sais pas ce que j'ai encore triffouiller
[10:54] <DBO> !fr
[10:54] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:54] <DBO> !zh
[10:54] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.
[10:55] <teletubbie> I think it is the firewall on the server
[10:55] <_jim_> gazzak , do you play gr ? you have the same nick as oe of my friends
[10:55] <thesaltydog> is ubuntu-desktop package needed also for laptops?
[10:55] <DBO> teletubbie, is the server wireless too?
[10:55] <_jim_> DBO , so ? whats wrong ?
[10:55] <teletubbie> nope, it is wired
[10:55] <kevinz> hi there. my ooo does not show up as the splash window never end. it once worked but i don't know what bring problems to it now
[10:56] <DBO> _jim_, no idea, we will need to troubleshoot more, but right now I do know something is SNAFU
[10:56] <_jim_> i dont know what snafu is :p
[10:56] <_jim_> but i understand you r busy :)
[10:56] <DBO> _jim_, (nice version) Situation Normal: All Fouled Up
[10:56] <_jim_> ok :)
[10:56] <teletubbie> you can upgrade from dapper test to dapper stable after its release. right?
[10:56] <_jim_> brb
[10:57] <DBO> thesaltydog, no its not needed, but it is useful for upgrades
[10:57] <thesaltydog> kevinz, there is a sort o tutorial here: http://www.newsforge.com/software/03/04/22/1931223.shtml?tid=51
[10:57] <DBO> teletubbie, yes
[10:57] <dean> anybody know how to enable the gnome foot icon in apps?
[10:57] <thesaltydog> DBO, tnx
[10:57] <dean> I want to change the ubuntu icon in applications to the gnome foot
[10:57] <visik7> how the boot splash of *ubuntu works ?
[10:58] <dean> ?
[10:58] <teletubbie> dl-ing at 599kb/s from a website outside my lan
[10:58] <DBO> dean, replace /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png with whatever you want
[10:58] <imbrandon> nice
[10:58] <teletubbie> if I'm connected at 48mbps. I should be able to dl at a few mb/s
[10:58] <DBO> teletubbie, unless the signal isnt strong enough
[10:58] <dean> wasn't there a command for the gnome icon?
[10:58] <animato> hello, any ubuntu app to view computer stats such as cpu and system temp?
[10:58] <Quan-Time> hey. me and a friend have a fair bit of experience with linux.. but currently we both use winxp.. we are sick to death of the problems we get.. i have a nvidia triple monitor display. TV / LCD off a 7800gtx and a CRT on a 6200 (also PCIe). he has a ATI and dual monitor.. how much grief are we gonna encounter by installing and trying to get multi monitors working ?
[10:58] <DBO> dean, not that I know of
[10:58] <imbrandon> viviersf, lookup the usplash package
[10:59] <viviersf> ??
[10:59] <imbrandon> thats the boot splash stuff
[10:59] <imbrandon> for the kernel
[10:59] <DBO> Quan-Time, you wont have much, he will have more
[10:59] <dean> sudo mv /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png.bak
[10:59] <dean> killall gnome-panel
[10:59] <viviersf> imbrandon, why you telling me ?
[10:59] <ajayc> HELP ME GET UBUNTU TO WORK ON MY LAPPY
[10:59] <imbrandon> [03:57]  <visik7> how the boot splash of *ubuntu works ?
[10:59] <DBO> dean, that will just get rid of the icon
[10:59] <viviersf> imbrandon, you got tab key issues ;p
[11:00] <dean> hmm
[11:00] <DBO> ajayc, no yelly please, what is your problem?
[11:00] <imbrandon> oops lol
[11:00] <imbrandon> sorry
[11:00] <Quan-Time> DBO, excellent.. thats what i like to hear. i used mdk10.1 for about 6 months with ati.. and hated every min of it (about a year ago).. and since now i have nvidia again.. thought id do the big switch...
[11:00] <imbrandon> ;)
[11:00] <DBO> dean, if you use the cp command to copy over an icon of the foot logo, it will replace it
[11:01] <dean> I screwed something up and now the foot icon was copied over with the ubuntu icon...
[11:01] <dean> heh
[11:01] <DBO> Quan-Time, Im not sure about that third output, probably going to have a bit of trouble with that triple monitor deal, but I didnt think the 7800GTX could do dual AND tv at the same time (I have one myself)...
[11:01] <SimplyFlower> DBO: i'm back... the link is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12917
[11:01] <DBO> dean, oh wells, foot icon is better =P
[11:01] <dean> I'm stuck with the ubuntu icon :(
[11:01] <DBO> SimplyFlower, ok, now your turn to wait while I learn lilo
[11:02] <ajayc> install cd wont detect my cdrom
[11:02] <Quan-Time> DBO, its a nvidia thing.. you have 3 outputs.. 2 DVI (or dvi and dsub) and TV.. you can only use 2 at the same time
[11:02] <SimplyFlower> DBO: ok, i'll be here
[11:02] <etmnt> meh
[11:03] <visik7> !wiki usplash
[11:03] <DBO> Quan-Time, that is what I thought
[11:03] <Quan-Time> http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/nonichan/DSCF0408.jpg <-- my triple monitor setup (19" sony CRT, 19" samsung LCD, old tv.. good for crap quality divx, looks quite reasonable on that)
[11:03] <Quan-Time> oh.. and beer bottles :)
[11:03] <ajayc> it says the install cd says it cant find my cdrom
[11:03] <DBO> dean, you can get a new foot icon off the interweb if you want
[11:04] <Quan-Time> i have seen triple monitor setup before.. on fedora
[11:04] <ajayc> so any ideas?
[11:04] <ajayc> please guys help
[11:04] <DBO> Quan-Time, Im not saying it cant be done, but I dont think it can be done with one card all being run at the same time.  At any rate I wouldnt know where to start with the tv, but the two monitors will essentially work out of the box with the nvidia drivers
[11:05] <DBO> ajayc, do you have a second CD drive you could try?
[11:05] <Quan-Time> ajayc, your cd you burnt, wont detect in the drive ? saying please insert ? ive had that before, couldnt fix.. so i leeched the DVD version and it fixed it
[11:05] <Ohzie> Hey
[11:05] <Ohzie> I'm running into this problem
[11:05] <ajayc> hey guys the cd is perfect
[11:05] <Ohzie> See, I've installed gstreamer
[11:05] <ajayc> but the isntaller says cant find cdrom
[11:05] <Ohzie> And the gstreamer firefox plugin
[11:05] <guillem101> Quan-Time, wow, an IBM keyboard
[11:06] <Ohzie> But when I try to play media in firefox, it tries to use Kaffeine
[11:06] <DBO> SimplyFlower, Im sorry, it looks fine to me...  if it was Grub i could be more help.  Does anyone in here know lilo well enough to help SimplyFlower?
[11:06] <Quan-Time> DBO, xconfig86 can do it... tv-out shouldnt be an issue. ive done it before.. just have to specify res / hz..
[11:06] <Quan-Time> guillem101, HARHRAHR.. hella yes.. nothing but the best.. ibm model M pal ;)
[11:06] <Quan-Time> its also in "dvorak" layer
[11:06] <Quan-Time> better for typing
[11:06] <DBO> Quan-Time, cool, do a writeup of what you do step for step, I may end up using it =)
[11:06] <m_0_r_0_n> Hi, which program is best to decrypt the content of text files encrypted by pgp?
[11:06] <teletubbie> yep. it was pf that caused the problem
[11:06] <ecen> hello, im trying to install kubuntu from the Synaptic Package Manager and Im getting the following: kubuntu-desktop: Depends: gwenview but it is not going to be installed ... any ideas?
[11:06] <teletubbie> now I can transfer at 10mbytes/s
[11:06] <teletubbie> :)
[11:06] <guillem101> Quan-Time, sorry for my point-less comment. I love those old IBM keyboards.
[11:07] <Quan-Time> DBO, HARHRAH.. fair enough.. i just dont know about 2 video cards is all.. thats basically my issue.. but since they are both nvidia core. i cant see too much of an issue. if i pull it off, ill explain how i do it later :)
[11:07] <Quan-Time> but this weekend we are having an installfest.. also installing watercooling for a mate.. as he never done it before..
[11:07] <ajayc> well i saw that bug on the site too
[11:07] <Quan-Time> guillem101, not pointless.. good eyes i say ;)
[11:07] <_harm_> how do i get a performance grapgh on my desktop?
[11:08] <Quan-Time> if your eyes were REALLY good guillem101, you would have noticed my PC is actually sitting on 2 bricks
[11:08] <Ohzie> Hmm
[11:08] <ecen> anyone?
[11:08] <DBO>  !tell _harm about gdesklets
[11:08] <guillem101> Quan-Time, lol.
[11:08] <imbrandon> ecen, make sure all your sources.list are enabled
[11:08] <guillem101> Quan-Time, and the clocks? thermomether, igrometer, ...?
[11:08] <Quan-Time> http://users.on.net/auska/grinder/ <-- see the size of the rad.. and the 3x120mm fans are external
[11:09] <DBO> Quan-Time, people still own dreamcasts? =P
[11:09] <imbrandon> like universe and you run sudo apt-get update afterwords
[11:09] <Quan-Time> HRAHRAH. dreamcast is on TV2 (pc is TV1).. and controller is in the draw.. i LOVE my dreamcast... DOA2 and soulcalibur..
[11:09] <Quan-Time> guillem101, thermometer, hygrometer, clock
[11:09] <DBO> SimplyFlower, do you get an error with lilo when you try to boot windows?
[11:10] <Quan-Time> DBO, dreamcast also has the VGA output attachment.. so i can tak it to LANs and things with mates, and play on LCDs.. works sweet
[11:11] <DBO> Quan-Time, me, and guillem101, I hate to say it, but we have wondered offtopic, we need to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:11] <Quan-Time> oh sorry.. my bad everyone
[11:11] <DBO> =) its cool
[11:11] <ajayc> well can anyone help?
[11:11] <ajayc> cdrom not getting detected any workarounds?
[11:12] <guillem101> ajayc, have you tried live-cd?
[11:12] <DBO> ajayc, do you ever get to a point where you can enter a command?
[11:12] <Quan-Time> ajayc, as i said, is it the CD or the rom ? coz i had to burn a DVD version to make it work
[11:12] <ajayc> that also doesnt work
[11:12] <ecen> imbrandon: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[11:12] <ajayc> its the rom
[11:13] <teletubbie> mhh still downloading files to upgrade
[11:13] <ajayc> its the cdrom!!!
[11:13] <DBO> ajayc, you basically have two options, get a different image or a different drive (afaik) =(
[11:13] <ajayc> image?
[11:13] <ajayc> well 4.10 works
[11:13] <ajayc> but releases after that dont
[11:13] <DBO> do you have the pressed versions or ISO's you downloaded?
[11:13] <ajayc> and havent tried 6
[11:14] <ajayc> pressed
[11:14] <DBO> hmmm
[11:14] <guillem101> ajayc, you burn the ISO images at the lower speed possible, don't you?
[11:14] <DBO> he didnt burn it
[11:14] <ajayc> I got pressed cd's guillem101
[11:14] <guillem101> ajayc, sorry.
[11:14] <DBO> ajayc, could you perhaps try a different CD drive?  (I know, big pain...  Im really sorry I cant think of a better solution)
[11:15] <ajayc> well please guys get ubuntu working i desperatley want it
[11:15] <guillem101> ajayc, can you check the media at the boot menu?
[11:15] <ajayc> didnt do that
[11:15] <Quan-Time> time to leech ubuntu... whats latest.. breezy badger ?
[11:15] <Quan-Time> 5.10 ?
[11:15] <seraphim> 6.06 beta
[11:15] <Quan-Time> ohh... any good ?
[11:16] <imbrandon> dapper
[11:16] <ecen> thank you
[11:16] <Quan-Time> and like, is there a DVD version with everything in one ? or it still the 1cd thing ?
[11:16] <imbrandon> 1cd
[11:16] <Quan-Time> kk. cheers. it do the whole debian thing of update from any version ?
[11:16] <imbrandon> and yes dapper is good ;)
[11:16] <Quan-Time> coz i have 5.10 cds here
[11:16] <imbrandon> yes Quan-Time
[11:17] <Quan-Time> oh wootah.. good old debian
[11:17] <imbrandon> just after install change your sources.list
[11:17] <siruz> hey,my dvd+r says it fits 4,7Gb but K3B only lets me burn 4,4Gb on it, is it supposed to be like this?
[11:17] <imbrandon> from "breezy" to "dapper" if you wanna upgrade
[11:17] <mDot> yeah, don't bother downloading a dapper iso
[11:17] <Quan-Time> imbrandon, cheers for that
[11:18] <ajayc> no solution to my prob?
[11:18] <imbrandon> ajayc, ??
[11:18] <ajayc> well my cdrom i snot being detected by installer
[11:18] <guillem101> ajayc, try to check the media from boot menu.
[11:19] <guillem101> ajayc, also, you may install 4.10 since it works and upgrade to 5.10
[11:19] <imbrandon> yea check the media from the boot menu, or try a diffrent cdrom
[11:19] <ajayc> well i directly press enter and it says no cdrom found
[11:19] <ajayc> or i disable acpi and stuff still it doesnt detect my cdrom
[11:19] <guillem101> ajayc, Once i found a pressed CD that was wrong....
[11:20] <guillem101> ajayc, perhaps I scratched it without realizing.
[11:20] <ecen> ok, uncommenting the sources did it. but now it says it will remove "mysql control center" (a gui to manage mysql databases) why that?
[11:20] <imbrandon> well the easy way would be to upgrade from 4.10 like guillem101 said but you could also check a diffrent cdrom and/or cddrive
[11:20] <ajayc> hey hey i tried it with 5 different ubuntu cd's
[11:20] <imbrandon> ecen, it might be outdated and will install a new version
[11:21] <guillem101> ajayc, and live CDs do not work?
[11:21] <DBO> econ, see if a newer version is in the install list, otherwise it conflicts with something new being installed
[11:21] <ecen> ok,is there a way to avoid this removal?
[11:21] <skpl_> has anyoen here gotten yahoo messenger to work?
[11:21] <imbrandon> ajayc, ok then your left with a new cddrive or upgrading from 4.10 from apt-get ;)
[11:21] <ajayc> no they dont same prob
[11:21] <DBO> skpl_, gaim works dandy for that =)
[11:21] <imbrandon> skpl_, gaim works as yahoo im , not tried the official client
[11:22] <DBO> jinx
[11:22] <skpl_> yeah but it does not have webcam support
[11:22] <imbrandon> hehe
[11:22] <guillem101> ajayc, you're screwed. I would recommend you to follow the 4.10 path or drop the drive to the rubbish...
[11:22] <SimplyFlower> DBO: sorry... was doing something else... no lilo doesn't give me any errors... it just boots ubuntu.  i don't get a screen that gives be any option of choosing the operating system to boot.
[11:22] <ajayc> drive is inbuilt
[11:23] <ecen> DBO: no new version is in the list, is there a way to avoid this removal?
[11:23] <guillem101> ajayc, is it a laptop?
[11:23] <DBO> econ, yeah, dont install what you are trying to install =P
[11:23] <imbrandon> ajayc,ok simple install 4.10 and update to 5.10 using apt-get from the internet
[11:23] <ajayc> yes it is a laptop
[11:23] <teletubbie> still upgrading :\
[11:23] <DBO> econ, the dependancies are there to prevent conflicting versions from being installed, something is conflicting and apt is telling you that needs to be removed
[11:23] <ecen> hehehe, im just want to install kubuntu... i dont get what mysqlcc has to do with kubuntu
[11:23] <guillem101> ajayc, try adding "acpi=off" et other options at the grub command line
[11:24] <imbrandon> ecen, not unless you dont update BUT you can easly add it again when it done
[11:24] <DBO> SimplyFlower, hmmm, okies, I see what you mean now, lemme see what I can dig up
[11:24] <ajayc> imbrandon, did that guillem101
[11:24] <ecen> oh, ok. if i can reinstall it later, then everyhting is ok
[11:24] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  thank you
[11:24] <DBO> ecen, it must have its own mysql manager
[11:24] <ecen> thank you
[11:24] <imbrandon> ecen, yes you can readd it when its done
[11:25] <imbrandon> ajayc,ok simple install 4.10 and update to 5.10 using apt-get from the internet
[11:25] <ajayc> i will use the cd to upgrade
[11:26] <imbrandon> umm then you might have the same problem
[11:26] <DBO> SimplyFlower, in your lilo.conf there is a line that reads "delay=20" change that 20 to 200
[11:26] <imbrandon> its probbly bad media
[11:26] <ajayc> no i will upgraade thorugh synaptic
[11:26] <ecen> last q. does kubuntu and ubuntu live together with no conflicts?
[11:26] <hintswen> DBO, how do i open that nautilus thing?
[11:26] <SimplyFlower> DBO: ok, brb
[11:26] <mindframe> wenasss
[11:26] <imbrandon> ummm aja ok do what you want me and guillem101 are just trying to help
[11:26] <DBO> hintswen, just open your home directory and go from there
[11:27] <ecen> i mean, will kubuntu overwite any ubuntu configuration?
[11:27] <hintswen> ?
[11:27] <mindframe> vaya, veo que esto no est en espal verdad???
[11:27] <DBO> hintswen, the file browser is called nautilus...
[11:27] <ajayc> well i know imbrandon thnkx for that :)
[11:27] <hintswen> okay
[11:27] <ajayc> btw can anyone mail me ubuntu dapper cdrom?
[11:27] <DBO> ecen, they work together fine
[11:27] <imbrandon> ecen, depends on the config you mean , yes some configs it will over write
[11:27] <Quan-Time> install question: i have 2x 400gb in raid0 on a DFI lanparty ultra-d. currently its NTFS.. i can resize it no problems.. will ubuntu have drivers or am i gonna have to somehow wrestle with lions and tigers to get ubuntu dual booting ?
[11:27] <ajayc> cos i cant download my broad band has 400mb download limit
[11:27] <ajayc> cos i cant download my broad band has 400mb download limit
[11:27] <mindframe> hay algun canal en espaol por aki????
[11:28] <Quan-Time> ajayc, crazy, you in australia ?
[11:28] <imbrandon> ajayc, conical will send them to you, check out ubuntu.com
[11:28] <ajayc> no in INDIA
[11:28] <osfameron> !es
[11:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:28] <DBO> Quan-Time, it should work fine, but ubuntu has something of a bad habit of "seeing through" hardware RAID...
[11:28] <ajayc> well dapper cd's?
[11:28] <Quan-Time> india *shudder*
[11:28] <mindframe> thanks ubotu !
[11:28] <Quan-Time> DBO, explain this "seeing thru" thing.. meaning, it wont work with raid ?
[11:28] <hintswen> is there some place i should make the folder i'm using to store files?
[11:28] <ecen> imbrandon: you mean files that i have configured at hand like /etc/bash.bashrc? hosts file? etc?
[11:28] <ajayc> Quan-Time, why?
[11:28] <imbrandon> ajayc, not dapper yet, they will in june
[11:29] <imbrandon> ecen, no they wont get over wtiten
[11:29] <hintswen> or just anywhere?
[11:29] <DBO> Quan-Time, in some rare cases, despite hardware RAID being set up, ubuntu will still detect both hard drives individually
[11:29] <ajayc> so thats what can anyonw mail me the written disc?
[11:29] <ajayc> please
[11:29] <Quan-Time> ajayc, in australia we have "PIPE" networks.. basically, anything already in austraila, is free content.. so i could have given you some links to download most anytihng, without going towards your download quota
[11:29] <Quan-Time> but i dont know any india things like that sorry
[11:30] <ajayc> please guys
[11:30] <ajayc> a request
[11:30] <ecen> um, will kubuntu try to rewrite mbr?
[11:30] <imbrandon> ajayc, i can mail them to you but it would take a few days to get there, pm me you FULL address as i have never shiped anything to india before
[11:30] <hintswen> qualus what do you mean it won't go towards my download quota? works with optus? and link please? lol
[11:30] <DBO> ecen, no
[11:30] <imbrandon> ecen, no
[11:30] <Quan-Time> ecen, if you want it to.. dual boot ?
[11:30] <hintswen> Quan-Time*
[11:30] <Fab> hi
[11:30] <ajayc> imbrandon, where do u live?
[11:30] <ecen> ok, thats all, you have been very helpfull, thanks
[11:30] <DBO> hi Fab
[11:30] <Fab> hey DBO :)
[11:31] <imbrandon> ajayc, usa ( kansas city missouri )
[11:31] <Quan-Time> hintswen, harhar. so what you wanna leech ?
[11:31] <Quan-Time> and what state you in ?
[11:31] <hintswen> <--will download anything that won't go to his quota
[11:31] <hintswen> victoria
[11:31] <Fab> DBO: I finally deleted the whole Harddisk
[11:31] <Fab> DBO: I think you've got right, what you said last time
[11:31] <DBO> Fab, sorry, I have a bad memory for peoples problems, I remember the name but not the issue
[11:31] <DBO> oh THAT problem
[11:31] <Fab> DBO: np, I know how that is ;)
[11:32] <Quan-Time> victoria.. gotcha.. we have "peeringSA" here in adelaide. its a network of ppl (about 3000).. so only one person leeches ep / somethin.. and puts it on emule / our private torrent tracker
[11:32] <DBO> yeah I know I was right... but I didnt want to get pushy because ompaul is much smarter than me...
[11:32] <ajayc> imbrandon, got it?
[11:32] <Fab> DBO: the paritiontable was messed up
[11:32] <Quan-Time> hintswen, http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/108296.html
[11:32] <imbrandon> yup ajayc give it a few days , i'll mail it out later tonight
[11:32] <Quan-Time> read on that.. should help you
[11:32] <ompaul> DBO, that is not my opinion :-)
[11:32] <ajayc> thankx imbrandon
[11:32] <DBO> Quan-Time, you need to take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic ... sorry
[11:32] <Fab> hi ompaul :D
[11:33] <DBO> ompaul, I was afraid I was going to set off your highlight =P
[11:33] <Quan-Time> DBO, 10-4
[11:33] <Fab> I think you both got a right
[11:33] <ompaul> DBO, flashing lights and sirens :)
[11:33] <Fab> but just one question :)
[11:33] <momo3> Download Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox3.htm
[11:33] <ajayc> imbrandon, please see pm
[11:34] <Fab> I'm making some new partitions, one fr linux and 1 Windows
[11:34] <hintswen> DBO, is there some specific place that i should make my shared folder?
[11:34] <DBO> hintswen, in your home directory
[11:34] <sopido> hi i tried to install opera9b on dapper (etch pkg) but i get a missing xlibs/xlib6g error. when i dpkg --force-all it installs and works fine but now i always get "The following packages have unmet dependencies: opera..." how can i force apt to accept this installation?
[11:34] <pax> !opera
[11:34] <ubotu> opera is, like, totally, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[11:34] <Fab> so the question is: which parition should be primary, which logic?
[11:34] <Fab> the windows or the linux
[11:34] <DBO> primary partition doesnt matter with linux or GRUB
[11:35] <DBO> wait no...
[11:35] <DBO> im thinking bootable
[11:35] <imbrandon> windows should be primary linux dont care
[11:35] <DBO> it still really shouldnt matter
[11:35] <Fab> imbrandon: I though so too
[11:35] <DBO> windows XP dont care either
[11:35] <Fab> imbrandon: I though so too
[11:35] <IceTox> brb.. need to restart gdm [amsg] 
[11:35] <Fab> imbrandon: because windows is too stupid ^
[11:35] <Fab> :)
[11:35] <klos> anyone can help
[11:35] <imbrandon> lol
[11:35] <Fab> DBO: Ok
[11:35] <klos> i killed my xserver while
[11:36] <ompaul> Fab, all can be primary, you can have 4 primary, you should have three paritions, and you should make first parition windows , second linux third linux swap
[11:36] <klos> setting up twinview
[11:36] <klos> using the ubuntu tutorial for nvidia graphics
[11:36] <imbrandon> and you dident backup you xorg.conf ;)
[11:36] <klos> i did
[11:36] <toresbe> I'm on Dapper beta
[11:36] <klos> and i moved it again
[11:36] <klos> but it still wont start
[11:36] <toresbe> was middle paste disabled in dapper!?
[11:36] <DBO> klos, can you please paste your xorg.conf to pastebin
[11:36] <klos> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-k7-nvidia-legacy
[11:37] <ompaul> Fab, install windows first, it will all be good from then on
[11:37] <klos> could this package be the problem
[11:37] <Fab> ompaul: ompaul: ok, the swap also primary?
[11:37] <klos> ?
[11:37] <imbrandon> klos,try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:37] <klos> maybe i shoudl use the ione wiht SMP support
[11:37] <jamesthered> where can I grab an mpeg plugin for totem?
[11:37] <sopido> pax: question: why should i install this xlibs package just for opera if the installation works fine without it (just the conflicts appear)?
[11:37] <sopido> isn't there a way to let apt accept this installation without it?
[11:37] <sopido> just curious..
[11:38] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  i'm back... made the change... rebooted the computer to see what would happen.  still no option screen it just takes longer for lilo to boot unbuntu.
[11:38] <pax> sopido: if you don't care about broken packages, do what you have to do,
[11:38] <klos> should i choose the nvidia or the nv driver ??
[11:38] <imbrandon> sopido, becouse it might be missing some obscure feature that you are not noticing
[11:38] <kbrooks> sopido: its just a package. install it
[11:38] <imbrandon> klos, i use nvidia
[11:38] <DBO> SimplyFlower, ah ha, so I now understand the problem... but as for a solution, I have but one stupid workaround to try =P
[11:39] <DBO> SimplyFlower, when you get to that blank screen where you are waiting, press the down arrow twice then hit enter
[11:39] <sopido> sure i will install but actually i really want to know if there is a way to accept this broken dependency .. just out of interest.. is there some wiki/faq about this?
[11:39] <Fab> ompaul: should I make the paritions with fdisk or with the windows setup it's self?
[11:39] <imbrandon> grub > lilo hehehe
[11:39] <DBO> Fab, use the windows setup itself
[11:40] <Fab> DBO: oke
[11:40] <jamesthered> or does anyone have a URL to a guide to getting totem to play movies (especially mpegs)?
[11:40] <Fab> DBO: I just don't want that mess I had before
[11:40] <pax> lilo is a thing of the past, altho stitch is still around
[11:40] <DBO> !tell jamesthered abour restricted
[11:40] <Fab> DBO: that's why I'm so unsure ^^
[11:40] <DBO> !tell jamesthered abour restrictedformats
[11:40] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  ok...  there isn't a blank screen though... but where it says lilo at the bottom i will try it... brb
[11:40] <DBO> hmmm, doesnt work
[11:41] <DBO> !restricted
[11:41] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:41] <DBO> there you go jamesthered
[11:41] <imbrandon> dbo you mistyped "about"
[11:41] <jamesthered> DBO, thanks.
[11:41] <imbrandon> thats why
[11:41] <DBO> imbrandon, wow Im dumb
[11:41] <klos> imbrandon, my xorg.conf i the origianl one but there seems to be a drive conflict
[11:41] <Fab> okay, well
[11:41] <klos> should i use the smp package
[11:41] <Fab> thank you guys for your help
[11:42] <DBO> anytime Fab
[11:42] <Fab> have a pleasant day :)
[11:42] <Fab> cu
[11:42] <klos> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-k7-nvidia-legacy or this one linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-k7-smp-nvidia-legacy
[11:42] <imbrandon> brb gotta reboot, not sure klos thats why i said reconfigure it
[11:42] <klos> :(
[11:42] <klos> k thx
[11:42] <imbrandon> smp is for multi pro kernels
[11:42] <klos> hm
[11:42] <klos> nah idont have this
[11:43] <klos> damn
[11:43] <imbrandon> do the one that matches your kernel install
[11:43] <imbrandon> brb
[11:43] <klos> yea
[11:43] <imbrandon> nvidia-legacy? why not nvidia-glx ?
[11:44] <DBO> klos, linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`-nvidia-legacy will get you what you want
[11:44] <klos> there is no nvidia-glx
[11:44] <imbrandon> umm sure there is , i'm running it as we speak
[11:44] <klos> i have the right one
[11:44] <klos> yea
[11:44] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  i'm back.  tried hitting the down arrow key 2x then hitting enter... nothing happened.  still boots directly to ubuntu.
[11:44] <klos> the tutorial says that it needs both
[11:44] <imbrandon> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:44] <Nermal>  question: if I have previously been sent CDs from ubuntu, does anyone know if I'll be automatically sent the next release when it's out?
[11:44] <klos> http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html
[11:45] <klos> i ve got all
[11:45] <DBO> SimplyFlower, okies... well then it should be giving you a display but its not.  Though it IS still doing the delay
[11:45] <DBO> Im confused now
[11:45] <Quan-Time> klos, close, now get triple monitor working for me
[11:45] <klos> close now ?
[11:45] <mikemiezter> how come make command doesnt work when installing .tar.gz file
[11:46] <klos> ah
[11:46] <etmnt> anybody know how to config lm-sensors... I forgot the cmd and can't find nothing online
[11:46] <klos> i dont get at least 2 monitors
[11:47] <etmnt> anybody know how to config lm-sensors... I forgot the cmd and can't find nothing online
[11:47] <klos> i#ll try the other kernel again :-/
[11:47] <Quan-Time> klos, http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=close
[11:47] <DBO> Nermal, no you will not
[11:47] <Quan-Time> close meaning "almost, but not quite what i need"
[11:47] <newstnih> DBO it's not showing in network places
[11:47] <Quan-Time> i need 3 monitor guide, not 2 monitor guide
[11:48] <DBO> SimplyFlower, if you type when it says lilo at the bottom, does it do anything?
[11:48] <newstnih> i tried adding it and it won't show the folder for the computer
[11:48] <DBO> newstnih, you mean for samba?
[11:48] <newstnih> yeah
[11:48] <newstnih> <--hntswen
[11:49] <DBO> newstnih, on the windows machine, open explorer and type \\ipofsambamachine\sharename
[11:49] <Quan-Time> uh huh
[11:49] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  i'll try.  i doubt it... what it shows is:  LILO 22.6.1 __  , brb
[11:49] <skpl_> can someone tell me what this error means? http://pastebin.com/682614
[11:49] <sopido> ok thanks for your help.. got to go...
[11:49] <newbie_unix> can someone help me with make command?
[11:50] <klos> hm i dont get this now the xserver runs again
[11:50] <DBO> skpl_, you have a bad .deb
[11:50] <DBO> I thinks
[11:50] <klos> without any changes. i only killed the restricetd module package
[11:50] <klos> 2.6.12-10-k7
[11:50] <klos> but the kernel fits
[11:50] <klos> :(
[11:50] <newstnih> it's asking for username and password, i tried the ubuntu's user and pass and it didn't work
[11:51] <DBO> newstnih, yep, you havent set up Samba users yet, we havent done that
[11:51] <csgirl> msg/ ubotu
[11:51] <newstnih> okay so how do i do that?
[11:51] <paines> hi
[11:52] <DBO> newstnih, now back on the ubuntu machine type in terminal "smbpasswd" and give it a password for your user (NOT THE SAME PASSWORD PLEASE)
[11:52] <DBO> then use your username and the password you just entered to connect to the samba share
[11:52] <paines> I am playing around with usplash and wondering howto change text size and text color. any idea ?
[11:54] <newbie_unix> can anyone help me how to use make command?
[11:54] <newstnih> DBO, it gave a error: account dissabled
[11:54] <ompaul> paines, perhaps this is the right directory to look in :-)  /usr/share/doc/usplash/ (I honestly have not looked myself)
[11:54] <DBO> newstnih, when did it give that error?
[11:54] <rune_kg> YO. Hey guys. Big problems. I m lost in MTAs', MUA's,...... What I Want is 5 pop3 accounts in emacs or mutt via ssh. I m ready to read and learn but I am overwhelmed by the number of options. What is the simplest solution? Thx a lot!
[11:54] <klos> hm ok i foudn the failure why the xserver didnt start but anyone her who could help why twinview doenst work
[11:54] <DBO> newstnih, you didnt sudo it did you, dont use sudo =P
[11:55] <klos> i'll paste my x11org.conf into pastebin
[11:55] <newstnih> after i retyped new password
[11:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> newbie_unix: If you have teh 'build-essential' package installed, you've cd'ed to the right directory, and you've run ./configure, just run make.
[11:55] <ompaul> newbie_unix, before you do >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<< run the command between the arrows
[11:55] <newstnih> i didn't use sudo
[11:55] <newstnih> old password i was supposed to leave blank right?
[11:55] <DBO> yes
[11:55] <newstnih> k well i didn't use sudo and left old password blank
[11:55] <paines> ompaul: read both readme's in there. but didn't found the information
[11:55] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  i'm back.  tried typing but nothing happened.  didn't have any effect at all.
[11:55] <ompaul> paines, hmm more digging needed
[11:56] <newbie_unix> where can i get the build essential package?
[11:56] <klos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12918
[11:56] <DBO> SimplyFlower, ok, now I really am out of ideas, I dont know lilo at all, perhaps if you ask ompaul
[11:56] <klos> please someone take a look
[11:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> newbie_unix: From the repository.  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:56] <DBO> newstnih, are you logged in as root?
[11:56] <newstnih> yes
[11:56] <newbie_unix> thanx for the help...
[11:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> newbie_unix: np :)
[11:56] <DBO> newstnih, it wont work if you are using root...
[11:56] <paines> ompaul: well, i will try to understand the sources. thanks mate
[11:57] <newstnih> well i'm loged in using the first accout created lol
[11:57] <SimplyFlower> DBO:  okay, thank you.
[11:57] <newstnih> oh... so i need to make a new account?
[11:57] <DBO> newstnih, yes, hold on, let me make you a command to do it all in one pass
[11:57] <SimplyFlower> ompaul: would it be possible for you to help me with getting lilo to work correctly?
[11:58] <newstnih> naw it k, i know how to make new user
[11:59] <DBO> newstnih, "sudo useradd remsamba -s /bin/false" then "sudo passwd remsamba" then "sudo smbpasswd remsamba"
[11:59] <sysios> hi
[11:59] <dimo> hi everybody i want some help about configuring my wireless card to connect to a WPA-protected  Wireless Network. I was following one of the howTO's on ubuntu Forums but it didn't work.....Any Help?
[11:59] <DBO> newstnih, yes, but we want to give a fake shell
[11:59] <sysios>  have question
[11:59] <DBO> !ask
[11:59] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[11:59] <sysios> i'm going to boot the ubuntu livecd from harddisk
[11:59] <sysios> what i must do?
[12:00] <skpl_> can smoeone tell me what vmware, and what it is used for?
[12:00] <DBO> erm, install ubuntu normally if you want to boot from hard disk...
[12:00] <sysios> DBO, but i not have a space
[12:00] <sysios> and i going to boot
[12:00] <imbrandon> vmware is like a virtual computer
[12:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sysios: You can run the images in qemu, or burn them to disk and run them from cd.  Either works, I recommend the cd.
[12:00] <sysios> this is possible?
[12:00] <Nermal> skpl_: it's a virtual machine which can be primarily used to run windows under linux
[12:00] <Nermal> or the other way round
[12:00] <DBO> sysfault, you can boot from CD if you dont have space on your hard drive.  but if you dont have space on your hard drive, I dont see how you are goign to install the live boot on the hard drive...
[12:01] <Nermal> basically a virtual x86 computer with it's own bios and everything
[12:01] <klos> anyone with an idea whats wrong with my xorg.conf
[12:01] <klos> ?
[12:01] <DBO> klos, did you paste it in pastebin?
[12:01] <klos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12918
[12:01] <klos> yea
[12:01] <DBO> ok, lemme go take a gander
[12:01] <klos> thx
[12:01] <newstnih> DBO: Failed to find entry for user remsamba.
[12:02] <zzz_> SKPL,you can run different OSs under linux.Such as ,linux,windows,bsd,sun os,etc
[12:02] <jamesthered> when you're installing something, how do you compile from source?
[12:02] <sysios> slax have a funciotn to boot from harddisk
[12:02] <sysios> ubuntu no?
[12:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> klos: You should comment out the "GLcore" module - it doesn't work with the nvidia module, last I checked.
[12:02] <klos> DBO, i do run with this configuration right now but the second monitor is dark
[12:02] <klos> ok
[12:03] <DBO> klos, no idea, sorry...
[12:03] <sysios> its possible ? to boot livecd from hardisk?
[12:03] <sysios> who have any ideas?
[12:03] <DBO> newstnih, when does it give that error?
[12:03] <newstnih> after sudo smbpasswd remsamba
[12:04] <_jim_> if you want to boot live cd from hdd , why u dont install from install cd
[12:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jamesthered: Install the 'build-essential', open a terminal, cd to the directory that has the source, and run './configure' 'make' and 'sudo make install'.  That's the most common way.
[12:04] <DBO> newstnih, cat /etc/passwd | tail -1
[12:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *build-essential package
[12:04] <newstnih> ?
[12:04] <RobyX> How do I find my LAN ip using linux? I need to forward some ports right now.
[12:04] <jamesthered> PuMpErNiCkLe, I've got build-essential, and thanks
[12:04] <sysios> hey why ubuntu dont have gcc??
[12:04] <newstnih> remsamba:x:1003:100::/home/remsamba:/bin/false
[12:04] <klos> no change
[12:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jamesthered: np :)
[12:04] <klos> re
[12:05] <klos> DBO, you foudn any other failure ?
[12:05] <osfameron> is there a way to embed .3gp documents to be played in a Linux browser?
[12:05] <ompaul> paines, thanks to my ISP https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:05] <Nermal> sysios: apt-get install gvv
[12:05] <Nermal> erm
[12:05] <Nermal> gcc
[12:05] <[Leo] > hi all
[12:06] <Nermal> and install build-essential
[12:06] <osfameron> as in, Quicktime (nope), Flash 8 (nope).  Anything else play .3gp that can live in a browser ?
[12:06] <SimplyFlower> ompaul, any ideas how i can get lilo to show the option screen so i can boot from either ubuntu or windowsXP?
[12:06] <Nermal> osfameron: yeah.. mplayerplug-in
[12:06] <ompaul> SimplyFlower,  lilo must run  /sbin/lilo after you create the lilo.conf the way you want
[12:06] <Nermal> you might need w32codecs installed as weell
[12:06] <osfameron> Nermal: eeeek!  I think mplayer crashes everything... or was that totem?
[12:07] <newstnih> ?
[12:07] <osfameron> Nermal: thanks, I'll check it out
[12:07] <Nermal> dunno.. totem can if you use totem-xine
[12:07] <ompaul> SimplyFlower, it is so long since I used it I can't remember much about it
[12:07] <Nermal> the totem mozilla / firefox plugin is shite
[12:07] <Nermal> I usually manually remove it
[12:07] <ompaul> Nermal, we say rubbish
[12:07] <SimplyFlower> ompaul, i ran lilo after changing the lilo.conf.  but i still don't get the option screen when i reboot.
[12:07] <Nermal> I say shite. deal.
[12:07] <ompaul> no deal
[12:08] <Nermal> oh don't get all pissy.. I'm helping people out here
[12:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Nermal: ompaul is a channel op...
[12:08] <Nermal> and ?
[12:08] <ompaul> Im not getting anything - we don't do language that is all, thanks
[12:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Nermal: Well, that was my point in its entirety, really.
[12:08] <DBO> newstnih, im looking, hold up...
[12:08] <newstnih> okay
[12:09] <Nermal> ompaul: /ignore nermal*!*@* ALL should fix the problem
[12:09] <Nermal> bloody code of conduct waving people are the bane of this channel
[12:09] <alleyoopster> Good afternoon or morning depending on where you are. Can anyone help me get an HP Officejet scanner working in Dapper? Or even in Breezy? It is a printer / scanner combo, the printer works fine. Any takers?
[12:09] <Hattori> is there a way to resize monitor on kde? can't see some portion on the lower side of the monitor. how to move/resize monitor screen?
[12:09] <DBO> newstnih, doh, dumb me, I forgot to give you the -a "sudo smbpasswd -a remsamba"
[12:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> harsh
[12:10] <Seveas> PuMpErNiCkLe, call it a cooling down period
[12:10] <newstnih> okay added
[12:10] <sysios> ok bye
[12:10] <Seveas> there's no room for heated egos or foul language in here
[12:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Seveas: ofc :)
[12:11] <Seveas> ofc?
[12:11] <DBO> newstnih, now use "sudo smbpasswd remsamba" to change the password (if it didnt prompt you to do it already)
[12:11] <newstnih> changed already
[12:11] <Beanbag> learn how to ban people properly dear.. hostmask / etc
[12:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Seveas: of course
[12:11] <Beanbag> you want /ban *!*@lucy.nermal.net
[12:11] <Beanbag> to ban me
[12:12] <Beanbag> did you win ops in a lottery or what ?
[12:12] <DBO> newstnih, ok, you should be able to log in with remsamba as the user and the password you just made
[12:12] <Seveas> ban *!*@lucy.nermal.net
[12:12] <N3rmal> now you need to account for additional hosts
[12:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *sigh*
[12:12] <Seveas> see, that's why we ban
[12:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> some people...
[12:13] <newstnih> brb
[12:13] <Hattori> is there a way to resize monitor on kde? can't see some portion on the lower side of the monitor. how to move/resize monitor screen?
[12:13] <osfameron> beanbag?
[12:13] <Seveas> good call
[12:13] <ompaul> Seveas, well its been smart before
[12:14] <Seveas> nermal now has a permanent ban - I'll add him to the autoremove list
[12:14] <ompaul> I was trying to find this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:14] <ompaul> ahh well
[12:14] <Seveas> iirc this is the 3rd time he's been annoying
[12:14] <ompaul> at least
[12:14] <Hattori> any idea?!
[12:14] <DBO> autoremove list?
[12:14] <klos> DBO, right now it uses this setting (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024,NULL"
[12:14] <klos> :-/
[12:15] <ompaul> DBO, if bad and bad again the front door remains closed
[12:15] <imbrandon> ubotu ircguide is Ubuntu IRC Guidelines https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:15] <ubotu> okay, imbrandon
[12:15] <Seveas> DBO, /cs autorem #ubuntu list
[12:15] <DBO> ompaul, oooooooh, you mean the "retirement" home
[12:15] <imbrandon> !ircguide
[12:15] <ubotu> ircguide is, like, Ubuntu IRC Guidelines https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:15] <Seveas> !no forget ircguie is <reply> see guidelines
[12:15] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[12:16] <Seveas> urgh
[12:16] <Seveas> !no ircguide is <reply> see guidelines
[12:16] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[12:16] <Seveas> !forget no forget ircguie
[12:16] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called 'no forget ircguie', Seveas
[12:16] <osfameron> ENONERMAL :-)
[12:17] <osfameron> anyone else got any pointers for how to embed a video to be played with mplayer plugin in firefox?
[12:17] <osfameron> I'm not finding immediate googlehelp
[12:17] <imbrandon> osfameron, should be the same as media player on windows guide
[12:17] <Seveas> osfameron, <object something> look on w3schools.com
[12:18] <knuxxles>  anyone knows how to remove manually installed nvidia drivers from nvidia.com?
[12:18] <osfameron> ah, ok, I have a generic object syntax, but not the clsid and other thingies specific to mplayer
[12:18] <IceTox> How do I config my mouse to function with the scroll wheel?
[12:18] <nookie> knuxxles: you have guides there
[12:18] <knuxxles> where?
[12:19] <ompaul> !nvidia
[12:19] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:19] <imbrandon> IceTox,you have to do the zaxis thing in xorg.conf lemme look one sec
[12:20] <imbrandon> IceTox, add ( Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5" ) to your configured mouse in xorg.conf
[12:20] <imbrandon> without the ()
[12:20] <nookie> knuxxles: here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=607
[12:20] <imbrandon> then restartx
[12:20] <IceTox> I'll check it out imbrandon
[12:22] <RobyX> My torrent download speed is insane under Linux @_@
[12:22] <RobyX> Wish I didint use Windows so much
[12:22] <imbrandon> IceTox, should look something like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12920
[12:22] <soundray> I have a bluetooth problem. hidd terminates with an error: "Can't open input device: No such file or directory".
[12:23] <imbrandon> RobyX, thats an easy problem to fix, just delete the windows partition and force your self to use linux ;)
[12:24] <nookie> is anyone else feeling that when they use wireless with network-manager that it goes much much slower
[12:24] <RobyX> lol
[12:24] <DBO> RobyX, or install windows patented BSOD Magic
[12:24] <DBO> and realize you hate it
[12:24] <jamesthered> when terminal's sudo apt-get command returns a Reading package lists... Done
[12:24] <jamesthered> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:24] <jamesthered> E: Couldn't find package message, what do you do to fix the situation?
[12:25] <er4z0r> re
[12:25] <DBO> jamesthered, /etc/apt/sources.list -> pastebin
[12:25] <jamesthered> DBO: can you give that to me again in newbie dummy-talk?
[12:25] <imbrandon> !pastebin
[12:25] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[12:25] <DBO> sure
[12:26] <IceTox> imbrandon, do I have to HUP the gdm then to make it work?
[12:26] <DBO> jamesthered, "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" highlight EVERYTHING, press ctrl+c, go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, paste it in the text window, click send, and give me the new link
[12:26] <imbrandon> IceTox, probbly
[12:26] <IceTox> thanks a lot imbrandon :-) Very good helping with that ubuntu pasting too :-) Thanks a lot! =)
[12:26] <DBO> jamesthered, is newbie dummy-talk your patent or can I steal that? =P
[12:27] <imbrandon> np IceTox
[12:27] <jamesthered> DBO it's actually an adapted quote from the TV show Firefly
[12:27] <newstnih> DBO, you know how u said to use \\ipofsambamachine\sharename to get my files, is there some way i can include the username/password in that so i don't have to type it in?
[12:27] <jamesthered> DBO so steal away
[12:27] <DBO> newstnih, no
[12:27] <newstnih> :( ok
[12:27] <DBO> newstnih, you can have windows remember the password an username however
[12:28] <alleyoopster> you can use automatix to install the mplayer firefox plugin
[12:28] <DBO> !automatix
[12:28] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[12:28] <newstnih> add, i added it to my network places and it didn't ask me for password
[12:28] <alleyoopster> wget http://beerorkid.com/automatix/automatix_5.8-1_i386.deb
[12:28] <alleyoopster> sudo dpkg -i automatix_5.8-1_i386.deb
[12:28] <newstnih> odd*
[12:28] <DBO> do not recommend automatix please!
[12:28] <imbrandon> no automatic
[12:28] <imbrandon> no automatix
[12:29] <ompaul> !automatix
[12:29] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[12:29] <imbrandon> umm just as easy to "apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"
[12:29] <pax> don't recommand any other script either
[12:30] <IceTox> imbrandon, you don't happend to know how to add new screen resolutions too do you? I want to have a bigger resolution then 1280x1024 :S And is there a way to find out how big the graphical card accepts the resolution to be? :-)
[12:30] <jamesthered> apt-get is not working for me for some reason
[12:30] <jamesthered> doesn't find the packages
[12:30] <ompaul> !resolution
[12:30] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:30] <ompaul> jamesthered, have you put in universe and multiverse?
[12:30] <IceTox> I'll have a look ompaul :-)
[12:30] <jamesthered> ompaul, nope
[12:30] <imbrandon> IceTox, i dont know how to do it other than "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but i know thats not the best way
[12:30] <jamesthered> ompaul, what are they?
[12:30] <imbrandon> but it does work
[12:31] <IceTox> sure thing imbrandon.. Tried that :-)
[12:31] <ompaul> jamesthered, the reason you can't see lots of software :-)
[12:31] <alleyoopster> have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:31] <jamesthered> ompaul, thanks, i'll go have a look
[12:31] <ompaul> jamesthered, check out the message from the bot
[12:32] <imbrandon> ummm who is alleyoopster talking to?
[12:32] <DBO> no idea...
[12:32] <alleyoopster> sorry, to jamesthered
[12:32] <IceTox> imbrandon, do you know where I can find out which video driver I've got then?
[12:32] <soundray> Please have a look at my issue. I have a program (hidd) that looks for some device files (/dev/uinput, /dev/input/uinput), doesn't find them and bails out. What can I do?
[12:32] <jamesthered> alleyoopster, no problem
[12:32] <IceTox> lspci?
[12:32] <imbrandon> what does restricted formats have to do with apt-get not working ;)
[12:32] <klos> DBO, you found any failure ?????
[12:33] <alleyoopster> it gives you info on setting up repos
[12:33] <DBO> klos, nope, no idea what your problem is, im not an xserver person.  90% of what I do is on boxes that dont even run X
[12:33] <imbrandon> IceTox, lspci will give you the card, not the driver, the driver should be listed in the xorg.conf
[12:33] <klos> ok
[12:33] <klos> thx
[12:33] <klos> i postetd in the forum
[12:34] <imbrandon> the one you have loaded atleaste
[12:35] <DBO> im out
[12:35] <DBO> later guys
[12:35] <imbrandon> l8tr
[12:35] <imbrandon> IceTox, you'll have something like ( Driver          "i810" ) under the device that is your vid card in xorg.conf
[12:35] <RobyX> Why does my mouse cursor randomly freeze? my keyboard still works and i've restarted a few times
[12:35] <RobyX> I have to replug it for it to work again
[12:36] <osfameron> ooo, I used to get that
[12:36] <imbrandon> bad mouse? lol dunno
[12:36] <osfameron> nope, ubuntu bug
[12:36] <osfameron> with usb ouse
[12:36] <imbrandon> ahh
[12:36] <osfameron> I tried 3 separate mice
[12:36] <RobyX> Oh
[12:36] <osfameron> I think using a ps/2 mouse is a workaround (I use touchpad on laptop, which is also badly configured...)
[12:37] <osfameron> sometimes I hate using linux
[12:37] <RobyX> Well I better get that at the store tomorrow.
[12:37] <IceTox> I thin I've got it now imbrandon.. I'm gonna run a restart at gdm and see :-)
[12:37] <imbrandon> good luck ;)
[12:38] <soundray> I need a gentle introduction to udev. Can you help?
[12:39] <imbrandon> brb , smoke break
[12:39] <imbrandon> soundray, and if you were asking me  i have no clue about udev ;)
[12:39] <ompaul> soundray, the simplest thing there is to read the guy who said he was killing off devfs on the kernel mailing list in 2003 :-) - it does it all dynamically
[12:40] <ompaul> soundray, I have stuff on atm if you can wait a while I'll come back to it
[12:40] <soundray> Sure -- I'll hang around.
[12:41] <soundray> Thanks ompaul
[12:41] <markitoxs_> hello, does anyone know, how to desactivate alt+click to move windows? I've looked in keybindings menu and can't find it..
[12:41] <soundray> markitoxs_: system-prefs-windows
[12:42] <markitoxs_> ouch soundray thx, could never figure it was there
[12:42] <markitoxs_> thx
[12:42] <markitoxs_> cheers
[12:42] <leeyee> Hi guys
[12:43] <leeyee> I'd like to compile a custom vanilla kernel
[12:43] <soundray> !kernelcompile
[12:43] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[12:43] <Yumi_mato> Hi, i can't install ubuntu dapper beta on a ibook g3 500 mhz.
[12:43] <leeyee> But i don't know how to find the old .config file of my currently using kernel
[12:44] <soundray> leeyee: look in /boot/
[12:44] <IceTox> imbrandon, didn't get that resolution any higher, but the scroll works just fine now :-) thanks a lot
[12:44] <Yumi_mato> When i boot from CD the screen gets blank even booting with live video=ofxx, don't remember well the command line
[12:44] <imbrandon> IceTox,np ;)
[12:44] <leeyee> You mean this:
[12:44] <imbrandon> sorry couldent help more
[12:44] <leeyee> config-2.6.12-10-686 ?
[12:45] <soundray> leeyee: exactly
[12:45] <leeyee> what's this? I recall when i was using fedora, I can get .config file from /usr/src
[12:45] <leeyee> and then i can do make oldconfig
[12:45] <leeyee> How can i do this on ubuntu?
[12:46] <soundray> leeyee: there are different ways you can go about this. Best if you look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[12:46] <soundray> for starters
[12:46] <leeyee> well, thank you
[12:46] <leeyee> I have found it
[12:47] <leeyee> I'm reading, brb
[12:47] <leeyee> thanks again!
[12:47] <osfameron> hmmm, CrossoverOffice sounds like it might be worth the $40
[12:47] <imbrandon> osfameron, it is, i use it every day
[12:48] <imbrandon> i'm one of the "advocates" for it and can send you a tryal if you like
[12:48] <osfameron> imbrandon: I'm thinking of basically IE, Flash player, and possibly Excel
[12:48] <cpl-tnt900> Can any one help me setup a wireless network with D-Link DWL650+ ,Linksys WRT54G Router ?
[12:48] <osfameron> imbrandon: ooo, yes, that sounds helpful, I'll /query you, thanks
[12:48] <imbrandon> osfameron, yup would work perfect
[12:50] <imbrandon> one sec osfameron lemme find the loki installer
[12:52] <imbrandon> osfameron, run that from a USER account ( i.e. NOT sudo )
[12:52] <leeyee> well, what's the make-kgkg meaning?
[12:52] <leeyee> I can't find this command in my system
[12:53] <cirqueduphreak> sorry i have a bad connection kept dc-ing
[12:53] <IceTox> Where do I enable the support for wester union keyboards? I can't write the three latest charecters that we have included in the norwegian language. I used to.
[12:56] <lockhead> IceTox, doubt it's your keyboard, think it's your char encoding
[12:57] <soundray> leeyee: you are either spelling it wrong (make-kpkg) or you need a package called kernel-package
[12:57] <Apostle^> their might be bugs on some of you mugs but their aint no bugs on me
[12:57] <FearMoth> when I add a new ext3 drive to my /etc/fstab, what do I put for the options, dump and pass columns if I'm going to be using it as my new /home drive?
[12:57] <Apostle^> /dev/sda3       /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[12:57] <leeyee> I just copyed the config file from /boot to the current folder
[12:57] <leeyee> I'm compiling vanilla kernel downloaded from the kernel.org
[12:58] <FearMoth> Apostle^ what's the 2 mean in pass column?
[12:58] <Apostle^> not sure lol
[12:58] <leeyee> If there are many differences between the ubuntu source and it?
[12:59] <Apostle^> leeyee: why are you configging your own kernel
[12:59] <cpl-tnt900> How can i define a wireless network adapter in laptop under ubunto ?
[12:59] <leeyee> just for fun
[12:59] <leeyee> hehe....
[12:59] <leeyee> I want to get a more custom kernel for my laptop
[12:59] <FearMoth> thanks
[12:59] <leeyee> if it won't work, i can also use the current one
[01:00] <cpl-tnt900> leeyee do u know how can i define a wireless network under ubunto ?
[01:00] <leeyee> hmmm...I'm not sure
[01:00] <leeyee> i have no wireless card on my laptop
[01:00] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: what do you mean by "define"?
[01:01] <leeyee> although it's running Pentium M chip
[01:01] <IceTox> lockhead where do I change my character set then? :-)
[01:01] <cpl-tnt900> i mean , from the moment i connect the pcmcia card...
[01:01] <vx> how do i change my screen resolution, it seems to have vchanged itself to 600x? on its own
[01:01] <cpl-tnt900> i already have a DHCP server...
[01:01] <cpl-tnt900> just need to get the network running and im new to ubunto so ... i ask...
[01:01] <axisme> cpl-tnt900, has ubuntu detected it?
[01:02] <cpl-tnt900> i think so ... i can see a network icon on the taskbar .. .but it has an alert sign on it
[01:02] <axisme> you using dapper drake or breezy?
[01:03] <cpl-tnt900> axisme  u refer me ?
[01:03] <axisme> yes
[01:03] <aaron> what is the url for multiverse for breezy?
[01:03] <cpl-tnt900> i use none ... i told ya i just connected the card..
[01:03] <aaron> i'm trying to get java-package
[01:03] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: go to System-Administration-Networking and see if there's a net device that corresponds to the card.
[01:03] <_mod> can some one help me on mpeg video playback?
[01:04] <cpl-tnt900> yes there is
[01:04] <ivoks> _mod: what's the problem?
[01:04] <RobyX> aaron read this http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum11/HTML/017401.html
[01:04] <cpl-tnt900> i can see Wireless Connection wlan0 is active
[01:04] <_mod> i cant play any mpeg s or mp3 files...
[01:04] <IceTox> aaron If you need java, you could always try blackdown. YOu can get that using the add application feauture on the menu.
[01:04] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: so, can you ping your router?
[01:04] <ivoks> _mod: what ubuntu version? 5.10?
[01:04] <_mod> i installed every mpeg package with adept that i could find
[01:04] <_mod> yes... youre right
[01:05] <axisme> mod, install vlc
[01:05] <cpl-tnt900> soundray : instructions will be usefull ... since im new to the evirement.
[01:05] <aaron> RobyX: ahh found it
[01:05] <aaron> had to click add to show more repos'
[01:05] <lockhead> IceTox, dunno, when you find out let me know
[01:05] <_mod> but vlc is only a workaround isnt it... wanna install that needed codec
[01:05] <IceTox> *sighs*
[01:05] <lockhead> utf8 sucks if you ask me
[01:05] <cpl-tnt900> ?
[01:05] <ivoks> _mod: install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[01:06] <aaron> IceTox: i need the latest version for dev'ing
[01:06] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: the device being active *probably* means that your wireless card is already working.
[01:06] <vx> how do i change my screen resolution in ubuntu?
[01:06] <imbrandon> !resolution
[01:06] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:06] <IceTox> Does anyone else know how to change the character setting so I can use the 3 extra norwegian characters?
[01:06] <Tidus> !locale
[01:06] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tidus
[01:06] <Tidus> gah...
[01:07] <Tidus> IceTox: check your locale settings, and check your keyboard map
[01:07] <lockhead> IceTox, dosnt work at all?
[01:07] <cpl-tnt900> <soundray : yeah i know but i cant surf or do anything wireless...
[01:07] <vx> thanks
[01:07] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: you could confirm this by opening a terminal (Alt-F2, enter 'gnome-terminal') and running 'ping 192.168.1.1' (replacing the actual IP address of your router)
[01:07] <JDahl> I am trying to setup a samba server under Dapper/Gnome. Browsing etc. works fine, but I can't find a place to configure anything wrt. passwords (which I want)...
[01:07] <cpl-tnt900> soundray and when i try ping in the terminal to 192.168.1.1 ( this is my router ) i get from 192.168.1.110 icmp_seq=x Destination host unreachable
[01:08] <ivoks> JDahl: there is no gui app for that yet
[01:08] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: hmm, but apparently your machine has been assigned the .110 address via DHCP (unless you've set it yourself)
[01:08] <JDahl> ivoks, I need to use smbadduser first, and then manually edit /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[01:09] <cpl-tnt900> soundray : i asigned it manually !
[01:09] <ivoks> JDahl: smbpasswd -a and yes, manually edit file
[01:09] <cpl-tnt900> should i move dhcp ?
[01:09] <rony> Are there any community repo's for dappa ?
[01:09] <s-toned> An usbstick plugged in is automounted at /media/usbstick, and /media/sda1. How can I change this? ("rgrep -i usbstick /etc" didn't find anything)
[01:09] <JDahl> ivoks, ok... thanks!
[01:09] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: only if you have a DHCP server running on the router.
[01:10] <cpl-tnt900> i have ...
[01:10] <IceTox> lockhead everything works just fine, but I can't use the three last characters in the norwegian alphabeth, even though, they're here at my keyboard :-) I'll check it out Tidus
[01:10] <ivoks> _mod: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:10] <cpl-tnt900> soundray : any other suggestion ?
[01:10] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: where did you configure the IP address for wlan0 - in the dialog or in the file directly?
[01:10] <cpl-tnt900> soundray : i defined in the Network Setting
[01:10] <lockhead> 
[01:11] <lockhead> ops
[01:11] <lockhead> *fell asleep on my keys*
[01:11] <IceTox> :-)
[01:11] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: in that case, I suggest you configure DHCP and see what happens.
[01:11] <soundray> lockhead: are we boring you? ;)
[01:12] <IceTox> Well it used to work, but I was high on weed while installing last time, so I can't remember what I did to make it work :P
[01:12] <cpl-tnt900> i did now i get a No entrance Sign on the network icon taskbar... doesnt seemed to helo
[01:12] <codecaine_> anybody got a good tutorial site for linux api?
[01:12] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: did you give it the ESSID that your router uses?
[01:13] <IceTox> might just have found it lockhead.. There was a language selector on the administrations menu.. There was option to enebale norwegian settings for writing.. I'll restart GDM and check it out :-)
[01:13] <lockhead> soundray, no, lack of sleep. havent slept more than 5h the last 3 nights, added together
[01:14] <soundray> lockhead: new baby?
[01:14] <rony> Are there any community repo's for dappa ?
[01:14] <cpl-tnt900> ESSID  ?
[01:14] <cpl-tnt900> dunno ?
[01:14] <JDahl> codecaine, there are a few good unix programming books, if that's what you had in mind (Steven's "Advanced Unix Programming" to mention one - you could look for that one + related books at amazon)
[01:14] <leeyee> soundray: hi, how can i know which hardware are running on my lappy?
[01:14] <murrayc> How can I report a launchpad/malone bug?
[01:14] <ivoks> rony: what is dappa?
[01:15] <lockhead> soundray, no, new project in c
[01:15] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: every wireless network has an identifier (ESSID). With a Linksys router, it is "linksys" by default. You have to tell ubuntu your ESSID in the networking dialog.
[01:15] <rony> dapper sorry
[01:15] <rony> Are there any community repo's for dapper
[01:17] <soundray> leeyee: are you asking so you can configure your kernel correctly?
[01:18] <leeyee> actually, just to configure it properly
[01:18] <cpl-tnt900> <soundray : yes i defined it ...
[01:18] <soundray> leeyee: can I ask why you want to compile a kernel anyway?
[01:19] <leeyee> I'd like to unselect as many as unneeded drivers
[01:19] <leeyee> To be honest, just for fun
[01:19] <leeyee> the current kernel works fine
[01:19] <leeyee> but i just installed it with apt-get
[01:20] <leeyee> I want a custom one, although it might not work fine.
[01:20] <leeyee> But i think i can get it working properly some day
[01:20] <soundray> leeyee: a lsmod with your current kernel should show you the names of the modules you need.
[01:20] <cpl-tnt900> soundray : apprantrly there was a problem in the pcmcia ... now the power light is on in the device...
[01:21] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: so you're making headway?
[01:21] <cpl-tnt900> i pressed activate on the wireless network and now it doing: Activating interface wlan0
[01:21] <cpl-tnt900> i think so ...
[01:21] <cpl-tnt900> now the interface is active ...
[01:21] <cpl-tnt900> chk pings ?
[01:21] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: try the ping now
[01:22] <kingspawn> !kernelcompile
[01:22] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[01:22] <cpl-tnt900> still unreachable
[01:22] <kingspawn> leeyee^^^
[01:22] <soundray> kingspawn: we're past that stage already.
[01:22] <kingspawn> soundray: oh, sorry
[01:22] <kingspawn> just barging in as usual
[01:22] <soundray> kingspawn: so rude, ts ts ;)
[01:23] <kingspawn> =)
[01:23] <leeyee> Hi kingspawn, what are you meaning for?
[01:24] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: is your router on and within wireless range?
[01:25] <kingspawn> leeyee: I dont know, whats the problem?
[01:25] <lrojas> what is suposed to be the standard and better way to do sound? oss or alsa ?
[01:25] <leeyee> I'm trying to compile my own kernel
[01:25] <leeyee> hehe....
[01:25] <soundray> lrojas: alsa is the only way these days. OSS is supported via a compatibility module.
[01:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lrojas: alsa
[01:26] <lrojas> thanks guys
[01:26] <minuuul> hello
[01:26] <cpl-tnt900> soundray : yes , im talking to from the wireless on an other system with winxp
[01:26] <ivoks> leeyee: and, how's it going?
[01:26] <leeyee> not bad
[01:26] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: are you using wep or wpa?
[01:27] <ivoks> leeyee: using ubuntu kernel source or vanilla source?
[01:27] <leeyee> I'm still doing menuconfig
[01:27] <cpl-tnt900> soundray : none ...
[01:27] <leeyee> vanilla
[01:27] <leeyee> 2.6.16.11
[01:27] <ivoks> hm... ok
[01:27] <cpl-tnt900> soundray : using open wireless... for now...
[01:27] <ivoks> leeyee: any special need for that version?
[01:28] <cpl-tnt900> soundray : every time i get the device activated i get an exclamation mark in the taskbar
[01:28] <leeyee> nope
[01:28] <leeyee> I know few of the kernel actually, I just want a try
[01:28] <minuuul> hello, are anyone from indonesia??
[01:28] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: you could run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' to see any error messages that come up during the process.
[01:29] <leeyee> ivoks: have you ever tried this?
[01:29] <ivoks> leeyee: compiling my own kernel? :)
[01:29] <ivoks> leeyee: i was compiling it since '97... but stoped a year ago... there is no real use of that these days...
[01:30] <soundray> ivoks: I'm with you on that one
[01:30] <leeyee> hehe...I have just been using linux since mid-July 2005
[01:30] <ivoks> distributions provide really good kernels now
[01:30] <kingspawn> its still nice experience, imho, if you like tinkering with your comp
[01:31] <buithuhien> sorri
[01:31] <leeyee> indeed, but if i alway use that, i will never know the real thing of linux
[01:31] <buithuhien> can i ask a question
[01:31] <buithuhien> default of root is : passwd ???????????????????????????
[01:31] <soundray> !root
[01:31] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:32] <buithuhien> oh
[01:32] <buithuhien> it mean that you can't login by root
[01:32] <ivoks> buithuhien: right
[01:32] <soundray> buithuhien: read the web link.
[01:32] <ivoks> kingspawn: it's allways good to know system better
[01:32] <Trouble_Maker> howdi guys
[01:33] <LinuxJones> Trouble_Maker: welcome
[01:33] <Trouble_Maker> i just installed ubuntu dapper drake.. i think it is called
[01:33] <buithuhien> so how to access the ntfs partition
[01:33] <soundray> !ntfs
[01:33] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:33] <Trouble_Maker> im having troubles gettting sound to play
[01:33] <soundray> Trouble_Maker: go to #ubuntu+1 to ask dapper questions pls
[01:33] <Trouble_Maker> thanks :)
[01:33] <Trouble_Maker> will do
[01:34] <buithuhien> #ubuntu+1
[01:34] <LinuxJones> Trouble_Maker: usually you have to right click the sound icon in the taskbar, open Mixer Settings and unmute Master and Pcm
[01:34] <soundray> buithuhien: /join #ubuntu+1
[01:35] <buithuhien> oh thanks
[01:36] <buithuhien> bye
[01:36] <morgan> how may I access my ntfs partiton?
[01:36] <leeyee> Hi, do i need IPv6 selected here?
[01:36] <buithuhien> thanks for help me
[01:36] <leeyee> I'm not very sure
[01:37] <RobyX> How do you change the size of icons lol
[01:37] <ivoks> morgan: cd into it?
[01:38] <soundray> RobyX: via Nautilus Edit-Preferences
[01:39] <soundray> leeyee: I doubt that IPv6 would be of benefit to you. If it was, you'd know.
[01:39] <imbrandon> !wine
[01:41] <LinuxJones> IRC server is gone wonky ?
[01:41] <jarle> What do you guys use for displaying output from /var/log/messages on the dektop?
[01:41] <soundray> jarle, gnome-terminal and tail
[01:41] <kingspawn> jarle: on the desktop as in gui?
[01:41] <kingspawn> jarle: im with soundray on that one
[01:41] <LinuxJones> jarle, usually the tail command or less
[01:42] <jarle> I have been using Eterm earlier (with tail), I'm now looking at Konsole, but I want a small scrollbar, not the big one that Konsole has..
[01:43] <Beawolfe> Need help trying to straighten out a F**K UP in Firefox if possible
[01:43] <LinuxJones> Beawolfe: what's that ?
[01:44] <jarle> ...and I also want the terminal to startup running "tail -f /var/log/messages" when I start KDE...
[01:45] <soundray> jarle, sounds like you should ask in #kubuntu as well.
[01:45] <Beawolfe> LinuxJones...tried to install new theme and now all buttons are gone and no themes are present to change into....and commands are all jumbled together on the screen...HELP!
[01:45] <zool2005> i would like some advice about backing up partitions in Linux - partimage or dd?
[01:45] <Beawolfe> LinuxJones... was fine until I restarted Firefox
[01:46] <LinuxJones> Beawolfe: do alt + t followed by t    that will open the themes dialog hopefully you can remove it from there
[01:47] <Beawolfe> LinuxJones... window is blank
[01:47] <soundray> zool2005: partimage is fairly smart and saves you headaches. dd has the advantage of being in practically every distribution (including rescue floppies).
[01:47] <Seantater> jarle: Go to #kubuntu, I'll help you there
[01:47] <Beawolfe> LinuxJones As in no themes there
[01:47] <zool2005> cheers soundray
[01:47] <LinuxJones> Beawolfe: argh, is this a fresh install ?
[01:48] <soundray> zool2005: also consider sbackup
[01:48] <zool2005> I know that Norton Ghost is usually recommended but it doesn't work with ReiserFS apparently
[01:48] <LinuxJones> Beawolfe: meaning do you have many bookmarks etc...
[01:48] <plbgnr> hello, can somebody help with wifi card (pci)? ...I have in /etc/network/interfaces line ' /sbin/iwconfig ra0 essid my_working_AP' ...but it does connect to another AP after booting ...then I must run sudo /sbin/iwconfig ra0 essid my_working_AP to get working internet connection ... can anybody help?
[01:48] <Beawolfe> LinuxJones They also show up all crammed into a smaller space
[01:49] <soundray> plbgnr: that sounds wrong. You shouldn't place an iwconfig call in interfaces.
[01:49] <LinuxJones> Beawolfe: when things like this happen to me I usually backup what I can (bookmarks or whatever) then purge remove the app and do a fresh install.
[01:50] <plbgnr> soundray: it was explained this way in doc for module for wireless card
[01:50] <fatalbert> Hi, I'm having trouble getting my network adapter working (i've tried both an realtek 8139 based card and an intel ethernet pro 100 card (using 8139too and e100 respectivly)). Both cards seem to be detected fine, however no traffic seems to be able to pass through them, including dhcp etc.
[01:50] <Beawolfe> LinuxJones Install the whole OS?...just installed Ubuntu 2 days ago
[01:50] <kbrooks> I have a CD with all my pictures on it
[01:51] <plbgnr> soundray: http://www.methods.co.nz/doc/ralink-2400.html
[01:51] <kbrooks> and I'd like to get them off the CD
[01:51] <kbrooks> and onto my HD
[01:51] <soundray> plbgnr: I suggest you configure your card via System-Administration-Networking instead of messing with the interfaces file directly
[01:51] <LinuxJones> Beawolfe: no just remove (purge) firefox and do a re-install
[01:51] <kbrooks> how do I do that?
[01:51] <momo3> instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox3.htm
[01:51] <kingspawn> kbrooks: mount the cd and copy them
[01:52] <NET||abuse> hmm, is there a deb package for jre in firefox for breezy?
[01:52] <NET||abuse> or do i have to configure jre manually?
[01:53] <soundray> NET||abuse: I'd use easyubuntu. Least trouble I've ever had installing java
[01:53] <soundray> !easyubuntu
[01:53] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[01:53] <Beawolfe> LinuxJones Trying that now I hope
[01:53] <LinuxJones> Beawolfe: apt-get --purge remove firefox (that will remove the borked theme you installed. apt-get install firefox (to get a fresh copy re-installed)
[01:53] <plbgnr> soundray: ok and when I use fluxbox?
[01:54] <Beawolfe> LinuxJones I d/led Firefox to the desktop
[01:54] <kbrooks> soundray: be glad i'm involved in EasyUbuntu :-)
[01:55] <soundray> kbrooks: well done
[01:55] <cpl-tnt900> `soundray : hi again ... ok look i ran tail command , and got the following resaults  :
[01:55] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: don't paste here!
[01:55] <fatalbert> how do i turn acpi off as a kernel option in menu.lst?
[01:55] <cpl-tnt900> wlan : no ipv6 routers present
[01:55] <soundray> !pastebin
[01:55] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:55] <cpl-tnt900> dont paste !?
[01:56] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: it sounded like you were about to paste a massive amount of log messages
[01:56] <soundray> plbgnr: can you put your /etc/network/interfaces on the pastebin please
[01:56] <prs> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[01:56] <prs> /dev/sda7              7692876   7657648         0 100% /
[01:57] <prs> Should 0 available concern me ?
[01:57] <Beawolfe> LinuxJones what dir is firefox in?
[01:57] <prs> There are no obvious problems now.
[01:57] <imbrandon> depends on what sda7 is, if its a cdrom no
[01:57] <kbrooks> gr
[01:57] <plbgnr> soundray: ok moment
[01:58] <kbrooks> i dont know why this doesnt work :-P
[01:58] <soundray> imbrandon: a 7.5 GB cdrom? ;)
[01:58] <imbrandon> dvd
[01:58] <cpl-tnt900> soundray : lol no .. i write down with my bare hands .. the linux is on the other comp...
[01:58] <imbrandon> lol
[01:58] <prs> Sounds like there is a problem as sda7 is not a cd-rom (there is scd0)
[01:58] <kbrooks> the hd is spinning :/
[01:59] <ic56> prs: by default, 5% of blocks are reserved for use by root.  Hence the disk shows 100% utilization even though used and total blocks don't match.
[01:59] <kbrooks> there, stopped
[01:59] <soundray> prs: it's not entirely full, but only root can write to the partition at this point.
[01:59] <LinuxJones> Beawolfe: you can find out where any app is located by doing whereis appname
[01:59] <plbgnr> soundray: http://pastebin.com/682789
[01:59] <soundray> prs: if this is your root partition, you should probably do some cleaning up. Start with sudo apt-get autoclean
[02:00] <vx> how do i re-instal my video card drivers, i was using the right ones at one point yesterday, but i had to modify an xserver file and i'm pretty sure i screwed up and it didnt detect my card
[02:01] <kbrooks> slow :|
[02:01] <kbrooks> but cd drives are that way
[02:02] <kbrooks> at least the progress dialog is modal :|
[02:02] <Beawolfe> LinuxJones So what dir should I be in to type the apt-get command then......I tried it in the home dir and it said purge was an invalid operation
[02:02] <prs> Thank you for your time and quick response.
[02:02] <pygi> join #ubuntu-devel
[02:03] <Alth> Hey guys. Got a really stupid question for you. If, when copying a file in the gui, it says 'you do not have permission to copy to this folder', what should I do? Do I need to move the file command-line sudo? If so, help a poor newbie out and tell me the command >.<
[02:03] <cpl-tnt900> soundray : what do u recommand to check next ?
[02:03] <Davey|Laptop> Alth, or you can go to Applications > System Tools (?) > Root File Browser or whatever it is, bring up two iwndows and move it using that
[02:04] <soundray> plbgnr: http://pastebin.com/682795 should work better
[02:04] <kingspawn> Alth: Sounds like you havent set your permissions correctly. Is this an ntfs disk?
[02:04] <Alth> Thanks Davey, I'll give it a shot :)
[02:04] <Alth> Kingspawn, I'm copying from a SMB share on my windows box (NTFS) to my ubuntu laptop (ext3 filesystem).
[02:04] <kingspawn> Alth: Aha. to your home dir?
[02:05] <Alth> No, kingspawn. My home dir isn't big enough, so I was copying, first to /, then to /usr. It's a big file.
[02:05] <Alth> It wouldn't let me copy to either of those directories, however.
[02:06] <intuos_pen> hi, how do i just get a list of packages installed on my pc?
[02:06] <ben_underscore> Alth, on the same filesystem?
[02:06] <kingspawn> Alth: thats the problem then, you havent got write permissions there. as a quickie you can copy to /tmp, but that gets wiped when you reboot, so watch out
[02:06] <Alth> Kingspawn - it's a compressed file, so that's ok :)
 Alth, on the same filesystem? <-- Pardon?
[02:06] <kingspawn> Alth: good. you always have write permissions in /tmp
[02:06] <Alth> Ok, kingspawn, I'll try that :)
[02:07] <Alth> Ah, copying, there we go :)
[02:07] <Beawolfe> LinuxJones ... did you read my last
[02:07] <Alth> Thanks kingspawn. Sorry, I'm another sorrowful newbie :P
[02:07] <kingspawn> Alth: no problem at all
[02:07] <ic56> Beawolf: apt-get doesn't care what the current directory is.
[02:08] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: let's recap. Your card appears as wlan0 in Admin-Networking. You configure it to use DHCP, entering the correct ESSID. DHCP works on the router, as demonstrated by your WinXP box. Still, the interface doesn't come up. Correct?
[02:08] <Beawolfe> then it says the purge command is invalid
[02:08] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: and you haven't done any security tricks on the router, like MAC authentication?
[02:10] <Beawolfe> And when I type it with just the remove command it says I dont have permission to unlock a file
[02:12] <plbgnr> soundray: ok I'll try but on mentioned page which should be HOWTO for module for wifi card is paragraph about why aren't used wireless tools (http://www.methods.co.nz/doc/ralink-2400.html)
[02:12] <Bog_> hello
[02:13] <Bog_> does anyone know the minimal install to get VMWare server to run?
[02:13] <ic56> Beawolfe: did you remember to use sudo on the apt-get commmand/
[02:15] <Beawolfe> Still says purge is an invalid operation
[02:15] <Bog_> what is the remote desktop in system preferences?  VNC?
[02:15] <bwlang> Bog_: uh... you just install it using their install.sh  should be fine.  ( i couldn't get it running on 64 bit though)
[02:15] <intuos_pen> hi, how do i list all my installed packages?
[02:16] <Boglizk> i hav a highlight on bog.. lol
[02:16] <Bog_> bw: I want to do a minimal install before I add vmware server
[02:16] <leeyee> aha..i finally finished configure
[02:16] <arrick> bog
[02:16] <leeyee> then i should do  "make all", eh?
[02:16] <arrick> Bog_, type server when you install
[02:16] <ic56> Beawolfe: firefox should not be running when you try to remove it with apt-get.
[02:16] <soundray> intuos_pen: dpkg -l (or ls /usr/share/doc)
[02:16] <kingspawn> Beawolfe: remember two -   --purge
[02:17] <Beawolfe> it isn't
[02:18] <bon_> what would i need to install to get 5.1 surrond sound wroking
[02:18] <ic56> Beawolfe: I don't know what's wrong with it then.  Try repeating the full command line you used plus the error message so that others might answer.
[02:19] <Beawolfe> I that got it ...I am very new to this and I added a space to the command line when I shouldnt have
[02:19] <nikosgr> hello
 hello guys
 i have just installed ubuntu
 and i noticed it disn ask me for a root password
 an when ask for a pass
 with sudo i must give my user pass
 how is this normal?
[02:19] <feydin> hi, is there a way to encrypt an imap folder and make it only readable when i connect with my email client?
[02:19] <intuos_pen> soundray: dpkg -l isn't accurate, it list packages which i already removed.
[02:19] <ic56> !root
[02:19] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:20] <bwlang> intuos_pen: you have to "purge" packages to fully remove them (including their configuration)
[02:20] <bon_> what would i need to install to get 5.1 surrond sound wroking
[02:20] <Alth> Ok, kingspawn, I went to extract my compressed game to /usr, and guess what? I still can't write there. How can I make it so? :P
[02:21] <Beawolfe> well unfortunatly that didnt fix the problem
[02:21] <nikosgr> yesthen why it asks for a password?
[02:21] <nikosgr> i eman it wants sudo bu thena gain it doens require root password
[02:21] <nikosgr> so what the point in sudo ?
[02:22] <intuos_pen> bwlang: dpkg -l shows it but the packages cannot be found already in synaptic "installed" list.
[02:22] <kellemes_p> sudo makes you root for some time, 10 or 15 minutes or so.. dependes on how configured.
[02:22] <ic56> nikosgr: sudo asks for your personal password to confirm who you are, then grants you the privileges that its config file says you're allowed to have.  Subsequent sudo commands, upto a configured timeout, won't ask you for a password.
[02:22] <Beawolfe> I guess I will have to format and reinstall ubuntu all over again.........................Hate to say it but atleast WinXP waited about 3 months before I had to do a reinstall instead of 3 days
[02:23] <LinuxJones> Beawolfe: no, remove the .mozilla directory from within your home directory
[02:23] <Alth> Ok. I need to extract this file somewhere, but it's too big for my home directory. Where can I stash it?
[02:23] <Alth> Hey Hobbsee :)
[02:23] <kingspawn> nikosgr: it is asking for _your_ password
[02:23] <nikosgr> yes
[02:23] <Hobbsee> hi Alth
[02:23] <intuos_pen> bwlang: is there a way that can make synaptic and dpkg list of installed packages in sync?
[02:23] <nikosgr> but i think this is alittle crazy
[02:23] <Alth> How've you been, Hobbsee?
[02:23] <LinuxJones> Beawolfe: then dpkg-reonfigure firefox
[02:23] <nikosgr> why is askign me for my passwors sinc eiam already lgged on?
[02:24] <ic56> Alth: do you actually have free diskspace anywhere on your system?
[02:24] <kingspawn> nikosgr: it enables you to do root work. well, you might forget to log out, and then asking for a password is good if someone sits down at your computer
[02:24] <kingspawn> nikosgr: you might run some crazy script that has a little thing that deletes your whole harddrive in it. then you will be glad sudo asks for your pass
[02:25] <ic56> nikosgr: because you might have stepped away from your terminal and someone else might have taken over while you weren't looking.  Root access needs to be well protected.
[02:26] <Alth> ic56: Yes, I have plenty of diskspace, but I partitioned my home directory quite small and my / directory quite big.
[02:26] <Beawolfe> well that didnt fix it either
[02:26] <Jimmey__> How can I access / print from a shared printer that's attached to a Windows machine
[02:27] <nikosgr> yes kingspawn and ic56 :-)
[02:27] <nikosgr> true
[02:27] <nikosgr> now thats clear to me
[02:27] <nikosgr> but when it asks for a password
[02:27] <djs> !tell Jimmey__ about xpprint
[02:27] <nikosgr> shouldnt that passord be aroot pass sicne iam tryign to run commands as root?
[02:28] <Jimmey__> Thankyou
[02:28] <djs> Jimmey__: yw :)
[02:28] <kingspawn> nikosgr: no. this makes it possible to have different users do small root tasks. with sudo, you can limit what a user can do with sudo :)
[02:30] <ic56> Alth: yes, /tmp gets cleared on boot and possibly also periodically every few days or so.  Is this something you need to install on the system, or is private user data?
[02:30] <nikosgr> yes but kingspawn if a user can run 'sudo' then he may use it all the time to do anything he likes in the system
[02:30] <nikosgr> so it si actually as loggen is as root
[02:30] <Beawolfe> LinuxJones ... where is the .mozilla dir then
[02:30] <Alth> It's something I need to install on the system. Linux binaries for a game.
[02:30] <kingspawn> nikosgr: i just told you that you can limit what they can do with sudo...
[02:30] <Beawolfe> it isnt in my home dir
[02:30] <kingspawn> Alth: then stick it in tmp and install from there
[02:30] <kingspawn> Beawolfe: directories starting with . are hidden
[02:30] <Alth> kingspawn: No, it doesn't install, it extracts and is then...installed, I guess. >.>
[02:31] <nikosgr> so with sudo someone for example cannot format his /
[02:31] <Alth> It extracts to have the folder structure I need to run the game. I just want to know where I can put it that's not /home or /tmp :P
[02:31] <kingspawn> Alth: haha, well, put it in tmp, sudo mv file /where/you/want, and get on :)
[02:31] <ic56> nikosgr: your objection is valid -- the way sudo is used with Ubuntu, the user isn't actually prevented from doing anything -- only discouraged and warned
[02:32] <kingspawn> Alth: technically you can put it whereever you'd like, with a couple of exceptions
[02:32] <Alth> kingspawn: Can I move a folder that way?
[02:32] <kingspawn> Alth: yes
[02:32] <Alth> Right, thanks, that's all I needed to know >.<
[02:32] <ic56> nikosgr: there is nothing preventing you from creating a root password, if you prefer to manage your system that way.  Just sudo passwd.
[02:32] <kingspawn> ic56: I also object to the 15 minute timeout
[02:34] <nikosgr> well ic56 iam used to work as root in many cases
[02:34] <nikosgr> and i prefer it opposed tohave to 'sudo' all the time
[02:34] <nikosgr> so i think ill use sudo passwd
[02:34] <trx> #first-blood
[02:35] <trx> join #firstblood
[02:36] <nikosgr> up until now there ws no root password?
[02:36] <kingspawn> nikosgr: correct.
[02:36] <nikosgr> i eman until i picked one now
[02:36] <nikosgr> yes
[02:36] <Sonderblade> how do you do to apt-get install a special version of a package?
[02:36] <cahill_john> i got probs with ubuntu guys
[02:36] <cahill_john> SOMEONE HELP ME
[02:37] <Warbo> cahill_john: Be more specific please :)
[02:37] <ic56> Alth: is this a tar file?
[02:37] <cahill_john> i need to configure my IP Address
[02:37] <nikosgr> if i wan to witch for nikos to root i must su root or su - root ?
[02:37] <cahill_john> bcoz DHCP failed to do so
[02:37] <nikosgr> s/witch/switch/
[02:37] <Warbo> cahill_john: Is this to a router or another machine?
 Alth: is this a tar file? <-- Yes.
[02:37] <cahill_john> no
[02:37] <cahill_john> i wanna type in my static IP
[02:37] <cahill_john> how can i do that
[02:38] <djs> Sonderblade: download the .deb and try installing it using dpkg
[02:38] <cahill_john> hello warbo
[02:38] <Warbo> cahill_john: You can do it in the Networking tool in System>Administration, but you need to know a valid one first
[02:38] <Jasey> quick question: logged into root in graphical (my reasons are my own, dont tell me this is not recommended i already know that) and some of the menus are missing. the administration menu for example... quite annoying. using dapper drake beta.
[02:38] <cahill_john> i know my IP address
[02:38] <cahill_john> i know the complete shit and i need to type it in
[02:38] <Beawolfe> Time to format and reinstall I guees
[02:38] <cahill_john> how can i do that plz
[02:39] <ic56> Alth: Use: tar tvf <file>  to find out what directory hierarchy it wants to install in.  Tell us if the pathnames in there begin with /usr /usr/local or /opt or if they are relative (don't begin with slashes)
[02:39] <Warbo> cahill_john: You can do it in the Networking tool then, or in a terminal type "ifconfig eth0 youripaddress"
[02:39] <nikosgr> i see its sudo -i
[02:39] <cahill_john> and what abt my subnet mask and gw
[02:39] <nikosgr> many things are differnet for other linxu distros
[02:39] <cahill_john> help warbo!
[02:39] <_Dez> how do i run xfce4 i already installed it
[02:40] <Warbo> cahill_john: Hmmm. Not sure about the ifconfig commands for that (try "man ifconfig") but it is easy in the graphical tool
[02:40] <waylandbill> cahill_john, you just type those after the address.. as shown in the ifconfig man page
[02:40] <cahill_john> my graphical tool asks for my password
[02:40] <Jasey> put it in then
[02:40] <cahill_john> i enter it but it doesnt accept
[02:40] <Jasey> oh
[02:40] <vx> how do i get ubuntu to let things boot from cd, seems it will only let itself reformat
[02:40] <Sonderblade> djs: do i have to do that manually?
[02:40] <Warbo> _Dez: You should get the option to run xfce as your session in the login screen
[02:40] <Jasey> odd
[02:40] <cahill_john> yeah jasey
[02:40] <Jasey> youre putting in your own pw right?
[02:40] <_Dez> thx Warbo
[02:40] <Jasey> not the root or anything
[02:41] <cahill_john> i logged in
[02:41] <cahill_john> my root and password r same
[02:41] <Alth> ic56: it's ok, I used kingspawn's 'sudo mv' thing, it's fine now. Thanks anyway :)
[02:41] <Jasey> oh
[02:41] <Jasey> oddness
[02:41] <cahill_john> i could log in
[02:41] <nikosgr> i also noticed that be default ubuntu logns in in gnome (wehich is fine)
[02:41] <cahill_john> with that very password
[02:41] <nikosgr> but i down have xfce4
[02:41] <Warbo> cahill_john: If your internal networking (Linux talking to itself) is screwed then you may not be able to run things as super user. More likely is that you are not in the admin group
[02:41] <cahill_john> i am
[02:41] <djs> Sonderblade: yes, sorry i don't know any way using apt based tools
[02:41] <nikosgr> becaus ei ddi an installation setup
[02:42] <nikosgr> apt-get install xfce4 wont do it
[02:42] <cahill_john> i logged in as root in the terminal
[02:42] <Warbo> cahill_john: OK then, gimme one second :)
[02:42] <nikosgr> Package xfce4 is not available, but is referred to by another packag
[02:42] <apt-get> try apt-get reconfigure
[02:42] <waylandbill> nikosgr, you should be able to choose xfce session from the gdm login
[02:42] <scultz> i just installed breezy and it did not recognize my on board sound. the pci chip set sound is listed in gnome device manager as "at-style speaker sound".  what do i need to do to get this to work?
[02:42] <nikosgr> i clciked on sessions but it isnt there
 cpl-tnt900: let's recap. Your card appears as wlan0 in Admin-Networking. You configure it to use DHCP, entering the correct ESSID. DHCP works on the router, as demonstrated by your WinXP box. Still, the interface doesn't come up. Correct? YES ...
[02:42] <nikosgr> its not instaled
[02:42] <waylandbill> nikosgr, oh..
 cpl-tnt900: and you haven't done any security tricks on the router, like MAC authentication? YES correct ...
[02:43] <Warbo> cahill_john: I just checked the command, if you can log in as root in a terminal then type "network-admin" to open the graphical tool
[02:43] <nikosgr> it was inatleld from cd 6.0.6 toreent file
[02:43] <nikosgr> that i ahev downlaod and burned
[02:43] <cahill_john> ok
[02:43] <nikosgr> unfortunately it wasnt a dvd one
[02:43] <nikosgr> so it coudl ahve allt he packages
[02:43] <cahill_john> then how do i proceed to configure it
[02:43] <cahill_john> can u tell me the way to avoid my graphical tool?
[02:44] <nikosgr> root@dell:~#  apt-get reconfigure
[02:44] <nikosgr> E: Invalid operation reconfigure
[02:44] <cahill_john> and directly use the terminal?
[02:44] <vx> any warcrack advocates? trying to update world of warcraft, using cedega, i'm getting FATAL ERROR!,  \directoryect\bnupdate.exe, 0x406FCE21 referenced memory at 0x00000000" the memory could not be "read".
[02:44] <Warbo> cahill_john: You should see your devices. Click on the one you want to configure and then click the configure (or something like that) button on the right, enter your IP and stuff, click OK then Activate and OK
[02:44] <Hobbsee> nikosgr: apt-get --reconfigure, maybe?
[02:44] <cahill_john> ubuntu isnt accepting a correct passowrd
[02:44] <apt-get> nikosgr , i thought apt-get reconfigure xfce4
[02:44] <Hobbsee> nikosgr: i thought it was sudo dpkg-configure -a or something
[02:44] <cahill_john> can i use ifconfig?
[02:45] <Warbo> cahill_john: I will have to check the ifconfig manual for a minute to find the exact command
[02:45] <kingspawn> vx: if something is trying to access memory at 0x00000000, it will fail hard, usually
[02:45] <cahill_john> ok
[02:45] <kingspawn> vx: other than that, I have no idea, never tried using cedega or anything related to it
[02:45] <waylandbill> I've heard people talking about the root password... how'd they set that, cause I was never asked to supply one. Is that done with some advanced install or something?
[02:45] <kingspawn> waylandbill: no need to set it, you have sudo
[02:45] <apt-get> mhm
[02:45] <apt-get> sudo is much better
[02:46] <Jasey> quick question: logged into root in graphical (my reasons are my own, dont tell me this is not recommended i already know that) and some of the menus are missing. the administration menu for example is depleted... quite annoying. using dapper drake beta. how do i restore all my icons and things. tried alacarte, but did not do anything.
[02:46] <kingspawn> Jasey: #ubuntu+1
[02:46] <Jasey> oki then
[02:46] <apt-get> copy the config files from your old home partition
[02:46] <waylandbill> kingspawn, yeah. I know of sudo and the ubuntu way of doing it. I just keep seeing people referring to their setting of the root password and thought they were using some black magic or something.
[02:46] <waylandbill> I prefer sudo myself anyway.
[02:47] <kingspawn> waylandbill: sudo passwd root, or just sudo passwd does the black magic
[02:48] <waylandbill> kingspawn, ah yeeesss.... of course.. the answer was so simple. hehe
[02:48] <prs>  # cd ${xvidcore}
[02:48] <prs>   # dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot  --> produces errors. Can you tell if this is correct syntax ?
[02:48] <Warbo> cahill_john: OK, I think it is "ifconfig yourdevice netmask netmaskaddress ipaddress" where yourdevice is something like eth0, netmaskaddress is your netmask address and ipaddress is your ip address. Sorry, I can't find the gateway, try asking someone else
[02:48] <cahill_john> its eth0
[02:49] <Alth> After all that, the damn game doesn't work :P
[02:49] <Alth> Missing some library or other.
[02:49] <cahill_john> ok i'll restart in linux and try it
[02:49] <cahill_john> thanx warbo
[02:49] <ic56> cahill_john: default gateway is configured with the route command.  The other stuff with ifconfig.
[02:49] <kkathman> or you can use sudo network-admin
[02:49] <kingspawn> Alth: Aint it wonderful?
[02:49] <Warbo> np
[02:50] <trappist> or use /etc/interfaces
[02:50] <trappist> err /etc/network/interfaces
[02:50] <kingspawn> cahill_john: rout add default gw <ip>
[02:50] <kingspawn> cahill_john: might make that "route" and not "rout"
[02:50] <Alth> kingspawn. Yes. :P
[02:50] <cahill_john> rout
[02:50] <cahill_john> in the same line or differnt line
[02:50] <kingspawn> cahill_john: what? rout is simply wrong, type route instead
[02:50] <jadijadi> on my new laptop (sony vgn-s580) ubuntu doese not boots ! :( what is the problem ?
[02:51] <Warbo> "route add default gw ipaddress" I think he means
[02:51] <cahill_john> i mean do i type route in the same lne as this
[02:51] <ubuntu> salve
[02:51] <cahill_john> or in a different line
[02:51] <Alth> Quick question - easy way to remove a folder at the command line? rm, right?
[02:51] <Whatsisname> rm -r
[02:51] <Warbo> cahill_john: Use ifconfig and route on seperate lines
[02:51] <cahill_john> ok thanx
[02:51] <samuel_> speak italien
[02:52] <ic56> !it
[02:52] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:52] <eThyanx> hi all
[02:52] <jadijadi> on my new laptop (sony vgn-s580) ubuntu does not boots. hangs while "mounting root file system"
[02:53] <Warbo> jadijadi: Do you use a weird type of drive (USB, SATA or something?)
[02:53] <kkathman> sudo network-admin  will give all options for network settings (it writes the /network/interfaces)
[02:53] <Alth> Ok, thanks for the help guys :)
[02:53] <DerekHe> I have a question.
[02:53] <jadijadi> warbo: maybe ! I dont know much about computers !
[02:53] <jadijadi> let me check the specifications
[02:54] <HymnToLife> DerekHe> ask it then :)
[02:54] <Warbo> jadijadi: Just that I sometimes get that problem, but then I realise my external hard drive is not switched on :)
[02:54] <jadijadi> warbo: i do now have a external
[02:54] <DerekHe> Why not the Freetype, Libxft, and the Libcairo2 can't make bold text for Chinese in official release
[02:54] <Warbo> jadijadi: Did you install Ubuntu on it?
[02:55] <jadijadi> yes
[02:55] <DerekHe> Why not the Freetype, Libxft, and the Libcairo2 make bold text for Chinese in official release
[02:55] <jadijadi> i this it's hard is sata
[02:55] <_Dez> Warbo that didnt work there was no option to switch to XFCE4
[02:56] <DerekHe> Now, many Chinese users use unoffcial patch to make bold text for Chinese fonts.
[02:56] <Warbo> jadijadi: OK, You need to enable SCSI and SATA at boot, but I'm not sure how to do that (I forgot how I got my USB working)
[02:57] <DerekHe> And we need an official patch in Ubuntu
[02:57] <jadijadi> I have to enable scsi and sata at boot ? thanks. let me search for it.
[02:58] <Warbo> jadijadi: You could ask someone here, just that I'm not sure
[03:01] <prs> What is Synaptic should be selected to get 'make' ?
[03:01] <Warbo> prs: build-essential
[03:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> prs: 'build-essential'
[03:01] <_jason> prs: build-essential
[03:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol
[03:02] <kingspawn> remember build-essential, man
[03:02] <soundray> prs: at least you can be certain now ;)
[03:02] <kingspawn> such a helpful bunch
[03:02] <hajuu> I just have no idea whats wrong with my sound
[03:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell hajuu about sound
[03:03] <_Dez> how do i run xfce4 i already installed it
[03:03] <prs> Thank you _jason, PuMpErNiCkLe, Warbo !!!
[03:03] <dg_w> Is iit in the gdm sessions list ?
[03:03] <waylandbill> _Dez, gdm should have it in the session list
[03:03] <soundray> _Dez: select the appropriate session at the login screen
[03:04] <roni87> hi all
[03:04] <Warbo> hi
[03:05] <dg_w> Is there a clamav frontend in the Ubuntu repos ?
[03:05] <immolo> why would you need a frontend to clamav?
[03:06] <dg_w> Just fancied one :)
[03:06] <immolo> lol you know clamav is mainly used to stop windows virus
[03:06] <_Dez> do i need ot install gdm?
[03:06] <dg_w> Yep ...
[03:07] <Warbo> Should we be stopping them, as that gets rid of incentive to dump Windows :)
[03:07] <dg_w> :)
[03:07] <slavik> I have a printer on my WinXP system set up for sharing ... how do I get to it from ubuntu?
[03:07] <immolo> dg_w, why do you need one when you run linux
[03:07] <roni87> is it true that virus can't infect linux ?
[03:07] <slavik> roni87: no
[03:07] <immolo> roni87, of course not
[03:07] <_jason> roni87: no, it's just really hard and unlikely
[03:07] <soundray> _Dez: if you haven't got gdm, log in on the text console and try startx
[03:07] <aliguori> there just aren't that many of them
[03:07] <dg_w> I dont NEED i want :)
[03:07] <aliguori> actually, it's not any harder than windows...
[03:07] <_Dez> Gnome loads when i do startx
[03:07] <roni87> ok, why then ?
[03:07] <_Dez> i want xfce4 to load
[03:08] <Warbo> roni87: There are very few, and those can't do much harm due to permissions (don't run as root)
[03:08] <slavik> roni87: what is true is that there are much less virii (sp?) for linux as compared to windows
[03:08] <dg_w> I got loads of documents through this machine ... from the file server , WHICH "COULD" BE INFECTED ..
[03:08] <immolo> most linux virus are more worms of which Ihave heard of 3
[03:08] <dg_w> i FORWARD THEM ON
[03:08] <soundray> slavik: viruses (or viri if you want to be fancy)
[03:08] <slavik> Warbo: if windows users followed the same root/user mentallity as Unix/Linux has had for decades, many Windows virii would not exist
[03:09] <doms> any body knows a libpq.so dynamic lib, i hav a executable programm from windows made by delphi then i install it in ubuntu box using codeweaver but when i run it in crossover it promt libpq.so? how can find this for a solution
[03:09] <immolo> dg_w, then run clam on the samba share
[03:09] <Stonekeeper> Does anyone know how long "downloading the release file" takes to timeout in espresso? I'm behind a proxy and it's just hanging. Thanks...
[03:09] <damian_> what's the package name for the gdlibs? :/
[03:09] <Warbo> I know a guy who found a bug in windows, he couldn't fix it 'cos it isn't open source. What could he do? He made a virus
[03:09] <roni87> yes, i've proofed that....
[03:09] <slavik> soundray: I dunno, which is more correct?
[03:09] <soundray> slavik: viruses
[03:09] <slavik> damian_: libgd ?
[03:09] <slavik> soundray: ty, will remember that :)
[03:09] <doms> any body knows a libpq.so dynamic lib, i hav a executable programm from windows made by delphi then i install it in ubuntu box using codeweaver but when i run it in crossover it promt libpq.so? how can find this for a solution
[03:10] <Warbo> He left the virus to run, to test his concept. He came back from 2 weeks holiday and "MSBlaster worm" was everywhere. That is actually true
[03:10] <_Dez> woot it worked
[03:10] <soundray> slavik: take it from a doctor ;)
[03:10] <slavik> so, usb printer on winxp ... how do I get to it from ubuntu
[03:10] <eneried> hello ;)
[03:11] <slavik> soundray: I thought that virii was more correct since the term comes from latin?
[03:11] <Warbo> slavik: You need to set up Samba, but that's all I know
[03:11] <auth00_> I am running dapper and I can't start gdm after my apt-get upgrade this morning. Anyone else have the same problem? I get a kernel freeze...
[03:11] <damian_> mm, cant aptget any gd's
[03:11] <immolo> Warbo, you are trying to say a hole that has been known about for years was just found a few weeks before msblast
[03:11] <slavik> Warbo: I know that too, but need help with that
[03:11] <jadijadi> my laptop hangs on boot (while mounting root file system) :( how can I add SATA support to my Ubuntu ?
[03:11] <chuckyp> damian_, you may need universe or multiverse enabled
[03:11] <eneried> i want to install ubuntu in my pc but having access from my windows Os to that partition... its better to use ext3 or ext2??
[03:11] <soundray> slavik: virii is most certainly and definitely wrong, even in the Latin
[03:11] <kingspawn> !xpprint
[03:11] <ubotu> Printing from ubuntu to an XP connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter.  Printing from XP to an ubuntu connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[03:11] <damian_> ahh. i've got it
[03:11] <damian_> !
[03:11] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, damian_
[03:11] <damian_> ta
[03:11] <mustafu> Is there a OSS solution for editing PDF files?  Does OO.org do it by chance?
[03:12] <steveb> i think OOo can export to pdf
[03:12] <slavik> soundray: ty ... shows not to look at slashdot for proper spelling/grammer
[03:12] <slavik> steveb: you are correct
[03:12] <steveb> i dont think it can edit them but dont quote me
[03:12] <Warbo> immolo: I don't know. Just that he made msblast (actually msblast-b, because a variant was found first) and released the source on Yahoo!. The police have dealt with him though
[03:12] <jadijadi> mustafu: yes. OOo can print to PDF
[03:12] <doms> any body knows a libpq.so dynamic lib, i hav a executable programm from windows made by delphi then i install it in ubuntu box using codeweaver but when i run it in crossover it promt libpq.so? how can find this for a solution
[03:12] <_Dez> thanks guys
[03:12] <jadijadi> my laptop hangs on boot (while mounting root file system) :( how can I add SATA support to my Ubuntu ?
[03:12] <_Dez> yall rock !!
[03:12] <mustafu> ok, thanks
[03:12] <cyphase> hmm
[03:12] <slavik> doms: install libpq
[03:12] <hajuu> ok sound just started working
[03:12] <cyphase> my video card is vibrating
[03:12] <nikosgr> guys what is apot-get reconfiguration?
[03:12] <cyphase> loudly
[03:13] <immolo> Warbo, you could be right I'm thinking of code red
[03:13] <slavik> I realized something ... only OSS can make communism really work
[03:13] <Warbo> nikosgr: dpkg-reconfigure reconfigures packages (and may ask you questions)
[03:13] <slavik> cyphase: fan dying, maybe
[03:13] <doms> were i can install libpq
[03:13] <slavik> doms: 1 sec
[03:13] <cyphase> slavik, it's a pretty new card..
[03:13] <Warbo> cyphase: My graphics card fan doesn't work at all
[03:13] <doms> i hav a libpq3 and libpq4 installed
[03:13] <nikosgr> whats the relationship bettween apt-get and dpkg ?
[03:13] <slavik> cyphase: hmm, what make/model
[03:13] <doms> thats not the same
[03:13] <jadijadi> my laptop hangs on boot (while mounting root file system) :( how can I add SATA support to my Ubuntu ?
[03:14] <slavik> nikosgr: apt-get is on top of dpkg
[03:14] <Warbo> nikosgr: dpkg deals with the packages and the files in them, apt makes sure you have the needed packages (dependencies)
[03:14] <_Dez> is there a way i can make "modprobe ndiswrapper" and "dhclient" everytime i boot?
[03:14] <cyphase> slavik, GeForce4 Ti 4400
[03:14] <slavik> dpkg only deals with deb files and such I think, apt-get uses dpkg and adds network support for repositorie and such
[03:14] <Warbo> _Dez: Ad them to /etc/modules
[03:14] <soundray> _Dez, add them to /etc/modules
[03:14] <_Dez> thx
[03:14] <slavik> cyphase: hmm
[03:14] <nikosgr> i see
[03:14] <soundray> _Dez: not dhclient...
[03:15] <nikosgr> an syanptic is a well implementes apt-gets' fronend
[03:15] <cyphase> slavik, i just woke up, so it could have been going for hours
[03:15] <_Dez> k just add modprobe ndiswrapper on the next line in modules?
[03:15] <nikosgr> but why ap-get or dpkg need reconfiguration?
[03:15] <leeyee> Hi guys
[03:15] <Warbo> nikosgr: Exactly. Seems a little wasteful (so many programs to do 1 thing), but it works quite well
[03:15] <slavik> cyphase: not a good sign for sure. is it just vibrating? or just plain loud?
[03:15] <nikosgr> why i just cant install xfce4?
[03:15] <leeyee> i have finished the kernel compilation
[03:15] <leeyee> But i don't know how to install it properly
[03:15] <soundray> _Dez: no, just ndiswrapper
[03:15] <sneex> fajita is mia ?
[03:15] <nikosgr> i just want xfce4
[03:15] <doms> any body knows a libpq.so dynamic lib, i hav a executable programm from windows made by delphi then i install it in ubuntu box using codeweaver but when i run it in crossover it promt libpq.so? how can find this for a solution
[03:16] <cyphase> slavik, well..
[03:16] <_Dez> k
[03:16] <Warbo> nikosgr: They don't need reconfiguring, the packages do. Do you want to change your X? Reconfigure the package xserver-xorg
[03:16] <jadijadi> my laptop hangs on boot (while mounting root file system) it seems it is becaue of my sata hda :( how can I add SATA support to my Ubuntu ?
[03:16] <leeyee> I did "sudo make all" and "sudo make modules_install" "sudo make install"
[03:16] <chuckyp> doms, try apt-get apt-file then you can apt-file search libpq.so
[03:16] <_Dez> ok how do i do dhclient
[03:16] <leeyee> But i can't see the new kernel version in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:16] <nayif> j/ #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <nikosgr> Warbo: what we mean when we say we are reconfiguring a package?
[03:16] <slavik> doms: in terminal "sudo apt-get install libpq4"
[03:16] <cyphase> slavik, it's making a noise like someone's typing out morse code, only fast
[03:16] <cyphase> :P
[03:16] <Inner|RE> whats the quickest way to convert .ogg to .mp3?
[03:16] <cyphase> and it kind of goes in and out
[03:16] <cpl-tnt900> Soundray u there ?
[03:17] <soundray> I need advice please: I have a program that looks for a device (/dev/input/uinput), but it doesn't exist, so the program bails out. What can I do?
[03:17] <slavik> cyphase: I see ... can you open the box and hold the card (push it in) to the mobo?
[03:17] <trappist> Inner|RE: ogg2mp3
[03:17] <soundray> cpl-tnt900: yeah
[03:17] <Warbo> nikosgr: The files are checked, to make sure they are still there and stuff like that. If you are asked any questions when you install a package (some ask whether you want them to start on boot, X asks loads about resolutions and stuff) then you can change your answers
[03:17] <immolo> Inner|RE, or for gui people audacity
[03:17] <slavik> soundray: you can symlink that to another device?
[03:18] <Inner|RE> audacity never works for me..
[03:18] <Inner|RE> says my i/o settings are invalid..
[03:18] <Inner|RE> but i cant figure it out
[03:18] <immolo> really, I must be lucky
[03:18] <nikosgr> so in order to install xfce what must i do?
[03:18] <Warbo> slavik: Maybe to /dev/null
[03:18] <slavik> nikosgr: apt-get install xfce4 :)
[03:18] <soundray> slavik: I think the device as such doesn't exist. IMO udev should create it, but it doesn't.
[03:18] <slavik> Warbo: or a device that corresponds to the uinput device :)
[03:18] <doms> yes i hav installed the libpq4 then when my executable file which enrollment system programm an made by delphi in windows, i try to install it in ubuntu box using crossover but that problem is libpq.so library error in windows that was libpq.dll
[03:18] <teletubbie> !azureus
[03:18] <ubotu> hmm... azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[03:18] <Inner|RE> is ogg2mp3 in a certain reposititory, it couldnt find it?
[03:18] <doms> yes i hav installed the libpq4 then when my executable file which enrollment system programm an made by delphi in windows, i try to install it in ubuntu box using crossover but that problem is libpq.so library error in windows that was libpq.dll
[03:19] <_Dez> !restricted
[03:19] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:19] <chuckyp> doms, please stop spamming
[03:19] <nikosgr> slavik thats what i did and got thsi error
[03:19] <slavik> doms: you need the dll then to be in the same dir as the program
[03:19] <nikosgr> Package xfce4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:19] <nikosgr> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:20] <cyphase> slavik, doesn't do anything
[03:20] <cyphase> maybe i just need to clean the dust out..
[03:20] <doms> yes
[03:20] <animato> hello, is there a way to create a shortcut that'll restart my machine?
[03:20] <cyphase> might be slowing the fan
[03:20] <cyphase> i don't know
[03:20] <slavik> doms: that happens when you try to install or to run the program?
[03:20] <joyrider> Hey, I have a Acer Travelmate Tablet PC, and I need some help for the WACOM stylus to function :)
[03:20] <Warbo> nikosgr: If you use Synaptic or aptitude then you can get the right one. You are trying to install a package that doesn't exist
[03:20] <slavik> cyphase: maybe that, too
[03:20] <doms> thats it the libpq.so
[03:20] <slavik> nikosgr: instead of xfce4, install 'xubuntu-desktop'
[03:20] <nikosgr> xfce4 does nto exist?
[03:21] <kkathman> xfce4-desktop
[03:21] <slavik> nikosgr: use xubuntu-desktop
[03:21] <kkathman> no
[03:21] <Warbo> nikosgr: You need the right package name, obviously xfce4 is not the right name.
[03:21] <kkathman> well depending on what release you are on
[03:21] <kkathman> hehe
[03:21] <kkathman> one of those
[03:21] <slavik> doesn't matter
[03:21] <slavik> xubuntu-desktop is what you need
[03:21] <doms> my programm ask for a username and password
[03:21] <nikosgr> ok ill try However the following packages replace it:
[03:21] <nikosgr>   xfce4-panel
[03:21] <nikosgr> E: Package xfce4 has no installation candidate
[03:21] <doms> what do nid
[03:21] <kkathman> in breezy and before xubuntu-desktop, dapper its xfce4-desktop
[03:22] <slavik> it will install everything needed for xfce4
[03:22] <nikosgr> maybe i need  xfce4-panel instead?
[03:22] <Warbo> nikosgr: The panel does not replace the desktop :)
[03:22] <slavik> kkathman: I am on dapper
[03:22] <kkathman> then its xfce4-desktop
[03:22] <nikosgr> this is what apt-get told me when it couldt find xfce4
[03:22] <doms> dynamic library libpq.so not foung
[03:22] <darkarmy> s jacy Polacy?
[03:22] <slavik> kkathman: no it isn't
[03:22] <soundray> nikosgr: I think you should install xubuntu-desktop
[03:22] <nikosgr> ok then ill try apt-get install  xubuntu-desktop
[03:22] <kkathman> sigh
[03:22] <slavik> unless you want to say that apt is wrong
[03:23] <slavik> nikosgr: don't forget sudo
[03:23] <GNAM> when unification of ubuntu-xubuntu-kubuntu? :P
[03:23] <igge> hello
[03:23] <kkathman> try typing apt-cache search xfce and see what you get then
[03:23] <nikosgr> slavik :ioam logged inas root :)
[03:23] <doms> do i nid to install delphi for linux
[03:23] <slavik> GNAM: xubuntu and kubuntu are spinoffs
[03:23] <Warbo> nikosgr: That is just because there is a package that depends on xfce4, but that doesn't exist. Now that dependency has changed to xfce4-panel. It is a fancy way of saying the package doesn't have that name
[03:23] <slavik> nikosgr: not a good idea
[03:23] <GNAM> yes, slavik
[03:23] <igge> any program I can use to open Stuff It archives? (.sit)
[03:23] <slavik> igge: file roller should open them
[03:23] <kkathman> xfce4-desktop - Desktop manager for the XFce Desktop Environment
[03:24] <nikosgr> i see
[03:24] <nikosgr> Need to get 34.5MB of archives.
[03:24] <Warbo> GNAM: How can they unify when Ubuntu fits one one CD? I would rather have 3 CDs of different desktops than one with 3 desktops but no OpenOffice and stuff
[03:24] <nikosgr> woow! xfce4 is cool, very small
[03:24] <igge> slavik: nope... it can't...
[03:24] <teletubbie> what does apt-get -f install do?
[03:24] <slavik> yes
[03:24] <slavik> igge: huh?
[03:24] <waylandbill> that's why it's colesterol free. :-)
[03:24] <soundray> teletubbie: fix missing packages
[03:24] <jadijadi> my laptop hangs on boot (while mounting root file system) it seems it is becaue of my sata hda :( how can I add SATA support to my Ubuntu ?
[03:24] <nikosgr> i just also downlaoded vidalia
[03:24] <Warbo> teletubbie: If fixes any "broken" dependencies by installing what is needed, and if that cannot be done it removes the broken packages
[03:25] <nikosgr> you know tor's frontend
[03:25] <nikosgr> but its in tar.gz
[03:25] <nikosgr> can you helpe me unpack and install this plz?
[03:25] <igge> slavik: it says "Archive type not supported"
[03:25] <waylandbill> forget the 3cds... need it all on a nice DVD. :-)
[03:25] <umarmung> igge: i use unstuff for it, but afaik it's not in the repositories
[03:25] <slavik> I see, igge search synaptic for stuff it as description
[03:25] <teletubbie> I have problems installing azureus on dapper
[03:26] <slavik> Description: Xubuntu desktop system This package depends on all of the packages in the Xubuntu desktop system
[03:26] <Warbo> nikosgr: "tar -xzf filename.tar.gz" "cd newdirectory" "./configure" "make" "sudo checkinstall -y"
[03:26] <igge> umarmung: aha... where can I get it?
[03:26] <slavik> Package: xubuntu-desktop
[03:26] <Warbo> nikosgr: If you are on Breezy that is. On Dapper use "sudo make install" istead of checkinstall -y
[03:26] <slavik> Warbo: why?
[03:27] <slavik> no checkinstall on dapper?
[03:27] <astro9040> hello
[03:27] <nikosgr> yes iam on dapper drake :)
[03:27] <umarmung> igge: i think i download it from the stuffit homepage
[03:27] <Warbo> slavik: checkinstall is broken on Dapper
[03:27] <nikosgr> iam ali ttle fristrated though
[03:27] <astro9040> how do i get totem to play my movies
[03:27] <nikosgr> synaptic doesn find for me alot of pchages
[03:27] <nikosgr> not Tor, nbot vidalia, not irrsi
[03:27] <teletubbie> any one got azureus installed on dapper?
[03:27] <slavik> Warbo: I have 1.6 installed
[03:27] <slavik> although it did come from the devs
[03:27] <teletubbie> !azureus dapper
[03:27] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, teletubbie
[03:27] <nikosgr> why it doens lcoate them and i ahve to visit the sites instead?
[03:27] <soundray> !tell nikosgr about easysource
[03:27] <nikosgr> so i can get the sources?
[03:28] <slavik> !easysource
[03:28] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:28] <Warbo> slavik: I tried it a few times on a few tarballs, but got an error. Someone in here said it segfaults when moving files or something
[03:28] <nikosgr> i prefer installking through synaptic
[03:28] <igge> umarmung: is it a free version? (just found a trial version there)
[03:28] <slavik> Warbo: did yours come from the repos?
[03:28] <nikosgr> rather than downloading and configuring tar.gz
[03:28] <joyrider> what's the URL for the newbieguide ??
[03:29] <slavik> !newbie
[03:29] <ubotu> slavik: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:29] <umarmung> igge: well i have a free version. but i downloaded it more than a year ago, so maybe they changed it now
[03:29] <slavik> !new
[03:29] <ubotu> slavik: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:29] <Warbo> nikosgr: Good on you. So many people start downloading crap from websites then asking "how do I install this program, which I haven't noticed is in the repos?"
[03:29] <slavik> yes
[03:29] <igge> umarmung: aha..
[03:29] <nikosgr> yes synaptic willt ake care of all dependencie doent it?
[03:29] <apokryphos> yes
[03:29] <umarmung> igge: i just checked the version, it's 5.2.x from 2001 :P
[03:30] <C> do i need a net connection to aptget install build-essiential?
[03:30] <Warbo> nikosgr: That's right. Also you can be pretty sure it will work on Ubuntu, and it will keep itself updated
[03:30] <nikosgr> yes
[03:30] <nikosgr> because vidalia eben i triued to confiure it
[03:30] <Inner|RE> what do i need to put m3u on an ipod using gtkpod
[03:30] <kingspawn> C: yes indeed.
[03:30] <C> oh
[03:30] <Warbo> C: If it isn't working it may be that you aren't typing apt-get (not aptget), but I think you do
[03:30] <nikosgr> it qwouils laso need soem qt libray i dotn knwo about
[03:31] <nikosgr> and tor
[03:31] <nikosgr> but hwo cna i update my sourc elist
[03:31] <nikosgr> i must find a greek repository server
[03:31] <nikosgr> that why ic an find packages right?
[03:31] <slavik> nikosgr: apt-get update
[03:31] <astro9040> hey does anyone know how do i get totem to play my movies
[03:31] <slavik> nikosgr: did you enable universe and multiverse?
[03:31] <C> so how would i go about installing the build essentials on a computer that doesn't have a net connection?
[03:31] <kingspawn> !restrictedformates
[03:31] <C> being the case
[03:31] <ubotu> kingspawn: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:31] <nikosgr> no slavik
[03:31] <kingspawn> !restrictedformats
[03:31] <ubotu> somebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:31] <nikosgr> i just installed ubuntu
[03:31] <kingspawn> astro9040: ^^^
[03:31] <slavik> nikosgr: you should
[03:32] <nikosgr> i didn almost configured anything
[03:32] <igge> umarmung: the one they have for download is 5.20 as well.. :)
[03:32] <Warbo> nikosgr: Your repositories can be from anywhere, but the closer they are the faster they download. BTW QT is the buttons and stuff that KDE uses
[03:32] <slavik> C: you can download the deb files and transfer them via CD or USB driver
[03:32] <C> can i install the build essential on another box then copy it?
[03:32] <C> slavik, awesome!
[03:32] <C> where are they stored?
[03:32] <slavik> C: that, too ... but there is a way to only download the packages
[03:32] <kingspawn> C: Yes. everything you install gets copied to /var/cache/apt
[03:32] <Warbo> C: Make sure you copy the .deb files (they will be in /var/cache/apt/archives) and not the files they create!
[03:32] <enzo> hi all
[03:32] <slavik> C: In synaptic, right before hitting OK, you can check the box to only download the stuff
[03:32] <C> k
[03:33] <C> k
[03:33] <nikosgr> um please can you tell em how i can update my sources list?
[03:33] <enzo> I need help with external usb case w/Hard Disk.. not being able to see it when I plug it in...
[03:33] <slavik> nikosgr: see !repos
[03:33] <nikosgr> !repos
[03:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:34] <slavik> enzo: what does dmesg say? (run dmesg before plugging in the drive and then after). Use pastebin.
[03:34] <slavik> !pastebin
[03:34] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:34] <Warbo> nikosgr: you can do it in Synaptic (Settings>Respositories) or change it with an editor (as super user) like "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:34] <astro9040> kingspawn, ?
[03:34] <kingspawn> astro9040: read what ubotu said right before i ^^^ you
[03:34] <nikosgr> Warbo: thank you that is much easier
[03:34] <slavik> Toma-: !!!!!!! :D
[03:34] <bastijn> alloa. Is here somebody who can help me with MP3 decoders for ubuntu 6.06 (beta)??
[03:34] <enzo> dmesg speaks of FAt (the disk is ext3.. wanting to get my samba conf back... LOL... changed disks) lemme get that dmesg again..
[03:35] <slavik> Toma-: I applied to Epic ... they rejected me :(
[03:35] <Warbo> ubotu: tell bastijn about mp3
[03:35] <Toma-> :(
[03:35] <mynameisdeleted> how do I fix gg: "[drm]  drmSetBusid failed (7, PCI:1:0:0), Permission denied?"?
[03:35] <slavik> yes ... so UT2k7 is going to suck
[03:35] <enzo> [4296132.628000]  usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5[4296132.749000]  usb 2-2: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub
[03:35] <enzo> [4296132.760000]  scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[03:35] <enzo> [4296132.760000]  usb-storage: device found at 5
[03:35] <enzo> [4296132.760000]  usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[03:35] <enzo> [4296139.342000]    Vendor: SAMSUNG   Model: SV1022D           Rev:  0 0
[03:36] <enzo> [4296139.342000]    Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 00
[03:36] <enzo> [4296139.347000]  SCSI device sda: 19931184 512-byte hdwr sectors (10205 MB)
[03:36] <enzo> [4296139.347000]  sda: assuming drive cache: write through
[03:36] <slavik> Warbo: how do I get ubotu to tell the person but not to send me anything
[03:36] <bastijn>  Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg has no installation candidate
[03:36] <enzo> [4296139.352000]  SCSI device sda: 19931184 512-byte hdwr sectors (10205 MB)
[03:36] <enzo> [4296139.352000]  sda: assuming drive cache: write through
[03:36] <Warbo> enzo: pastebin.com !!!
[03:36] <enzo> [4296139.352000]   sda: sda1 sda2
[03:36] <DBO> enzo, please dont paste in here
[03:36] <slavik> enzo: please use pastebin ...
[03:36] <enzo> [4296139.401000]  sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
[03:36] <enzo> [4296139.401000]  sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[03:36] <Frogzoo> bad enzo:
[03:36] <enzo> [4296139.403000]  usb-storage: device scan complete
[03:36] <enzo> [4296140.824000]  FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
[03:36] <enzo> [4296140.834000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sda1)
[03:36] <Toma-> !ops
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[03:36] <enzo> [4296140.834000]      fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)
[03:36] <enzo> [4296140.834000]      File system has been set read-only
[03:36] <enzo> [4296143.268000]  FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
[03:36] <Warbo> slavik: I don't know. I'm suprised that worked (I've only done it once before!)
[03:36] <slavik> rofl
[03:36] <bastijn> ubotu, can you help me with this?       Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg has no installation candidate
[03:36] <ubotu> bastijn: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:36] <Toma-> slavik: applied anywhere else?
[03:37] <bastijn> okee :(
[03:37] <_jason> bastijn: are you using dapper?
[03:37] <Toma-> bastijn: ubotu is a bot
[03:37] <slavik> no :(
[03:37] <bastijn> yes
[03:37] <_jason> bastijn: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[03:37] <bastijn> oh :p
[03:37] <Frogzoo> !ubotu, are you a bot?
[03:37] <ubotu> Frogzoo: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:37] <slavik> !ubotu
[03:37] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[03:37] <Warbo> bastijn: Dapper groups the codecs and stuff into good, bad and ugly, not individually like 0.8
[03:37] <bastijn> oh
[03:38] <bastijn> i got my text from the wiki
[03:38] <DBO> hey Frogzoo, you wanna take a shot at an error in my kernel log that has me stumped (and got me a big ass log)
[03:38] <bastijn> i will try that one then :D
[03:38] <DBO> doh, language on me, sorry
[03:38] <Toma-> ubotu: tell DBO about pastebin
[03:38] <enzo> LOL... pastebin.com.... ok clear...
[03:38] <slavik> DBO: go to the bathroom more often = less logs :P
[03:38] <slavik> enzo: you didn't finish reading what I said :(
[03:38] <Frogzoo> DBO: pastebin & I'll take a look
[03:39] <Warbo> slavik: More logs, smaller logs
[03:39] <slavik> ;)
[03:39] <Frogzoo> !tell enzo about pastebin
[03:39] <slavik> how do I get ubuntu to use a windowsxp attached printer?
[03:39] <slavik> printer is set for sharing
[03:39] <enzo> yeah.. pls tell me bout pastebin.. I just pasted in there.. I send & it figures everything out ??
[03:40] <Warbo> slavik: Samba isn't it? Don't ask me any more, as I've never tried it
[03:40] <enzo> Samba is good !
[03:40] <slavik> Warbo: I need help configuring samba :P
[03:40] <Frogzoo> enzo: you past to pastebin, & post the url back here
[03:40] <DBO> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12924
[03:40] <Warbo> enzo: Put it in, then copy the URL from the address bar into here, so we can look at it
[03:40] <enzo> lol... lots of howtos on samba out there
[03:40] <slavik> enzo, you paste text there and then click send or submit, then give us the url of the resulting page
[03:40] <nikosgr> is there a way to run a jpg image from console line?
[03:40] <DBO> Frogzoo, take that and multiply by a couple orders of 200
[03:40] <enzo> ok
[03:40] <slavik> nikosgr: run or view?
[03:40] <nikosgr> sorry i meant view
[03:41] <enzo> here 'tis
[03:41] <enzo> http://pastebin.com/682936
[03:41] <Warbo> nikosgr: Type your favourite viewer, then the filename. So: "eog /home/me/mypic"
[03:41] <Toma-> DBO: bad sectors? tried using fsck?
[03:41] <slavik> enzo: you have seen the light ;)
[03:41] <LinuxJones> slavik: search the wiki there are howto's on there
[03:41] <DBO> Toma-, I dont even have an hda, all my drives are SATA which means SCSI interface which means sda
[03:41] <nikosgr> Warbo: i dotn ahve a favourote viewer up until now
[03:41] <doms> were i can download kylix for ubuntu
[03:41] <eneried> sorry, i wasn't here, then i don't know if you answered me
[03:42] <nikosgr> caus ei dont kn ow eben one! :)
[03:42] <doms> were i can download kylix for ubuntu
[03:42] <Frogzoo> DBO: gut feel is disk's going bad - install smartmontools & test disk & make backups
[03:42] <DBO> Toma-, but I did think of that, and I did fsck em, they are quite clean
[03:42] <eneried> wich is better? ext2 or ext3 file system?
[03:42] <LinuxJones> doms: kylix has been discontinued hasn't it ?
[03:42] <nikosgr> ill try eog as you say
[03:42] <slavik> eneried: ext3
[03:42] <doms> why
[03:42] <eneried> LinuxJones, yep, discontinued, use KDevelop, and QT or glade
[03:42] <doms> why discontinued
[03:42] <DBO> Frogzoo, thats what I thought, so I gave the disks a serious going over, both come up 100% healthy in everything I throw at them
[03:42] <LinuxJones> doms: because there was no interest in it
[03:42] <Frogzoo> DBO: well if you don't have an hda, I guess that's different... - wierd
[03:42] <Toma-> DBO: could be udev or hal trying to make them hda type devices. and from that it will obviously think its bad if its an SATA drive. gmm
[03:42] <doms> are you sure
[03:43] <eneried> slavik, and can i access  that partition from my windows OS?
[03:43] <slavik> enzo: it doesn't show the drive in /media ?
[03:43] <Warbo> nikosgr: I used to prefer Kuickshow (from KDE) even though I use GNOME just because it has no control buttons, just the image, and you can choose the next and previous pics in a folder with the mouse wheel. I now like the GNOME image viewer as it has forward, back buttons (but still an ugly interface. I just like the image)
[03:43] <slavik> eneried: not natively
[03:43] <LinuxJones> doms: there are tons of usefull dev tools for Linux development the most popular for Ubuntu is Python + pyGTK.
[03:43] <eneried> doms, we're sure, look at imprise or borland, they developed kylix in the past
[03:43] <toMte83a> hmm.. anyone here using Evelutions ?
[03:43] <slavik> windowsxp only know ntfs and fat/32
[03:44] <eneried> slavik, i have the ifs drives extension, but it seems that works better with ext2... and i dont know if ext2 is good enough
[03:44] <slavik> eneried: I read about drivers being available
[03:44] <joyrider> Is there a init command for Standby ?
[03:44] <nikosgr> Warbo: yes, eog is fine
[03:44] <enzo> slavik. well I do see it but can't open it..
[03:44] <eneried> slavik, do you know a good driver to access ext3?
[03:44] <slavik> eneried: no, sorry
[03:45] <slavik> enzo: did you try to go into it?
[03:45] <eneried> slavik, no prob, thanks ;)
[03:45] <enzo> says : mount: /dev/sda1: ne peut lire le super bloc
[03:45] <enzo> erreur: ne peut pas excuter pmoun
[03:45] <DBO> Frogzoo, Toma-, the other odd aspect is these errors are concentrated to a specific timespan, are NOT ongoing anymore, and seem somehow linked to specific types of network traffic
[03:45] <slavik> everything in /media is a directory
[03:45] <dt-oz-gc> Hi all. Does anyone else get phantom mouse clicks occurring quite often? Any solutions?
[03:45] <enzo> oh yeah...
[03:45] <eneried> does anybody know a good driver|extension to acces ext3 partitions from my windows XP?
[03:45] <slavik> enzo: translate it into english please
[03:45] <enzo> but to no avaik
[03:45] <enzo> avail *
[03:45] <Toma-> DBO: network traffic??????
[03:45] <enzo> /dev/sda1 : cant read super blac
[03:46] <enzo> Can't execute pmount
[03:46] <slavik> hmm
[03:46] <eneried> T_T
[03:46] <DBO> Toma-, your guess is as good as mine on that one.  But I kid you not, these errors showed up when I was testing a router's weakness to ARP poisoning
[03:46] <LinuxJones> doms: there is also boa-constructor which is modeled after borland Delphi but is designed to work with wxPython.
[03:46] <enzo> can we go pv on this topic?
[03:46] <DBO> (our Cisco guy gets to keep his job it seems)
[03:46] <slavik> DBO, Toma-, any guess on the usb drive issue?
[03:46] <Warbo> I get that error with pmount. I always mount from the command line (automounting stuff is fine, just not floppies and stuff which are manual)
[03:46] <slavik> enzo: no, others might be able to help
[03:46] <enzo> ok..
[03:47] <DBO> slavik, what issue?  Im sorry I wasnt doing yours...  but Im willing to help
[03:47] <Toma-> DBO: hotplug. try grepping for something about hda and hotplug...
[03:47] <eneried> doms: try glade and gtk+, or KDevelop and QT
[03:47] <slavik> enzo is trying to get a usb hard drive to work
[03:47] <doms> qt
[03:47] <Toma-> slavik: im not really reading. about to goto bed
[03:47] <slavik> something with pmount gives him errors
[03:47] <DBO> Toma-, no hotplug on this system
[03:47] <doms> were i can download qt for gnome
[03:47] <aphesz> eneried: try this app.. http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[03:47] <slavik> doms: in the repos
[03:47] <Toma-> DBO: so modules are getting loaded by themselves?
[03:47] <enzo> and dmesg talks about fat.. this disk is ext3
[03:47] <eneried> thanks :)
[03:48] <eneried> doms: add it from repositories
[03:48] <DBO> Toma-, no need for it really
[03:48] <doms> i mean the Qt GUI environment
[03:48] <DBO> actually wait... we just redid this box, it may still have hotplug
[03:48] <LinuxJones> doms: you might also want to look at wxglade (cross platform development using WxPython) as well.
[03:48] <Toran> I'm having problems building the latest version of Amarok, could someone please have a look? http://pastebin.ca/raw/51492
[03:48] <nikosgr> guys i cant configure m y source list
[03:48] <nikosgr> although ime reading the manul on how to do it through synaptric
[03:49] <doms> wxglade
[03:49] <doms> what site
[03:49] <Warbo> doms: QT GUI environment? KDE? You can get various theme-applying things if that is what you mean
[03:49] <nikosgr> A list of repositories is shown. Click the Settings button at the bottom and tick Show disabled software sources. Then click the Close button.
[03:49] <Toma-> DBO: yeh, my guess is something like udev, hal, or hotplug are loading this drive but dont recognise it as SATA...
[03:49] <doms> not gnome
[03:49] <enzo> I did a google search, & found nothing so I dropped in here...
[03:49] <eneried> doms: um, go directly to QT homepage, the developers are... Trolltech
[03:49] <doms> i used gnome now
[03:49] <Toma-> pesky automation.
[03:49] <LinuxJones> doms>> http://wxglade.sourceforge.net/
[03:49] <nikosgr> the re ius no show disabled software source
[03:49] <sk8az> please, can anyone help me with skype: i tried debian version - it said somethin' about archive unreadable, i tried another version, but it still does not work, can anyone tell me how to install skype or what am i doing wrong
[03:49] <eneried> i've to go, thanks guys ;)
[03:49] <doms> yes i know trolltech
[03:49] <doms> thats can be found n the Qt help site
[03:50] <eneried> doms: this is the place for QT,but i think there's enough QT packages on ubuntu repositories...
[03:50] <Toran> I'm having problems building the latest version of Amarok, could someone please have a look? http://pastebin.ca/raw/51492
[03:50] <slavik> enzo: hold on
[03:50] <DBO> Toma-, you might be right, but the network traffic link doesnt make sense, but here it is, I can reproduce it with ettercap...
[03:50] <doms> yes there are
[03:50] <doms> how can i run it in gnome environment
[03:50] <enzo> holding on... tightly.. :)
[03:51] <nikosgr> is there an easy way please to insall a server to sources list?
[03:51] <Warbo> nikosgr: In Synaptic Settings>Repositories>Add>Custom
[03:51] <doms> can i download and install wxglade debian package for (sarge) in my ubuntu box
[03:52] <Toma-> DBO: probably something to do withy the inner workings of module alias's and the automations. File a bug if you can find the root of this evil. However, i gtg :(
[03:52] <LinuxJones> doms: apt-get install wxglade
[03:52] <nikosgr> warbo yes
[03:52] <nikosgr> Enter the complete APT line of the channel that you want to add
[03:52] <nikosgr> i gues tha manul was old on this
[03:52] <jita> is there a kernel customized for athlon in ubuntu repo?
[03:53] <LinuxJones> doms: why would you want Debian sarge packages on Ubuntu ?
[03:53] <slavik> enzo: 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/usbdrive'
[03:53] <Jimmey__> jita, if it's 64 bit then yeah...If it's a 32 bit, I don't know.
[03:53] <slavik> enzo: try that
[03:53] <Warbo> nikosgr: That will be something like "deb http://www.thesite.org distro1 distro2 distro3"
[03:53] <sk8az> please, can anyone help me with skype: i tried debian version - it said somethin' about archive unreadable, i tried another version, but it still does not work, can anyone tell me how to install skype or what am i doing wrong
[03:53] <enzo> will do that.. brb
[03:53] <DBO> Toma-, thanks for the help on tracking this down, I nearly had a heart attack looking at my logs this morning
[03:53] <Warbo> BTW, I made that link up
[03:53] <jita> Jimmey__: its 32 :P
[03:53] <Jimmey__> slavik, yafray only comes as a sarge package..That's one I needed
[03:53] <nikosgr> Warbo: since iam greek i must find a greek server
[03:53] <Jimmey__> jita, maybe a 686 kernel, or something
[03:53] <doms> is their a repo for wxglade for ubuntu
[03:53] <slavik> what's yafray?
[03:53] <doms> is their a repo for wxglade for ubuntu
[03:53] <Jimmey__> slavik, blender plugin
[03:53] <Warbo> nikosgr: Try Google, search for "greek ubuntu repository"
[03:54] <LinuxJones> sk8az: there was a howto in the ubuntu forums have a peek there
[03:54] <slavik> doms: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[03:54] <slavik> Jimmey__: what's it do?
[03:54] <doms> yes i hav
[03:54] <LinuxJones> doms: yes you must enable the universe repository
[03:54] <nikosgr> Warbo: thank you , many thanks
[03:54] <doms> my repo is change
[03:54] <jita> Jimmey__: there is 686 kernel?
[03:54] <doms> yes its enable
[03:54] <Jimmey__> slavik, http://jimmey.ath.cx/content/BASEPROF1Z0001.png
[03:54] <nikosgr> Warbo: youa re very helpfull to me :)
[03:54] <sk8az> LinuxJones: thx, i`ll take a look there
[03:54] <Warbo> nikosgr: no problem
[03:54] <Jimmey__> jita, yeah, it's called "linux-686"
[03:54] <DBO> does anyone know of a GOOD parametric modeller for linux?  something similar to CATIA
[03:54] <Warbo> nikosgr: (I'm bored)
[03:55] <Jimmey__> jita, try uname -a to see which kernel would best suit, maybe?
[03:55] <deeps_> Hi everyone
[03:55] <Jimmey__> deeps_, hey
[03:55] <Toma-> DBO: i can imagine :D try giving dapper live cd a spin, and see if its fixed. otherwise, get onto it in the bug lists, coz this is really something that could send bells ringing in system admins on server and such!
[03:55] <enzo> ok... that works.. doesnt show up on desktop, but got it in file system in /media... (the usbdrive folder didn't exist, so I did it fast & dirty...
[03:55] <LinuxJones> deeps_: welcome
[03:55] <jita> Jimmey__: one more thing, is there 2.6.16 kernel in repo ?
[03:55] <nikosgr> Warbo: who isnt? it happens to me all the time :)
[03:55] <slavik> Jimmey__: nice picture ... new house?
[03:55] <doms> what in breezy badge updates or binary
[03:55] <Toma-> cya all!
[03:55] <deeps_> I need some help regarding Azureus
[03:55] <slavik> jita: no
[03:55] <deeps_> can anyone help me?
[03:55] <Jimmey__> slavik, I made that with Yafray
[03:55] <doms> wer i can add the univers repo
[03:55] <doms> to install wxglade
[03:55] <slavik> Jimmey__: so yafray is a camera? :P
[03:56] <enzo> Goog, I can now get back all the breezy configs files.. they ARE compatible with dapper ??
[03:56] <DBO> Toma-, I can't get this specific setup for testing again till next friday, but I will.  I need a shower and new pants now
[03:56] <deeps_> LinuxJones,  can u help me??
[03:56] <LinuxJones> doms: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:56] <Jimmey__> slavik, not quite =-P
[03:56] <slavik> enzo: so that mount thing worked?
[03:56] <LinuxJones> deeps_: if I can what's up ?
[03:56] <slavik> Jimmey__: nice modeling job though ... I wish I was as good
[03:56] <enzo> yep.. i can now access my old ubuntu disk...
[03:56] <slavik> :D
[03:56] <deeps_> I am getting some NAT error
[03:56] <enzo> went from breezy to dapper
[03:56] <deeps_> what can i do now?
[03:56] <doms> then
[03:56] <jimcooncat> !tell doms about universe
[03:56] <Jimmey__> slavik, I've been told that the sofa looks like a brick - All the models are basically cubes.
[03:56] <doms> what should i add
[03:56] <slavik> enzo: not all the config files would work
[03:57] <enzo> however, I'd like to know why It doesn't automount..
[03:57] <enzo> hmm
[03:57] <slavik> Jimmey__: sofa looks "new"
[03:57] <LinuxJones> deeps_: your sharing your internet connection but are having random troubles with connections ?
[03:57] <Jimmey__> deeps_, try configuring your router?
[03:57] <Toran> I'm having problems building the latest version of Amarok, could someone please have a look? http://pastebin.ca/raw/51492
[03:57] <enzo> well... how bout passwd.. I've got 20 users on this server
[03:57] <keleus> having trouble with printing...
[03:57] <deeps_> i am able to download using it
[03:57] <enzo> would like to get passwd file
[03:57] <slavik> enzo: those should be compatible
[03:57] <deeps_> but, am getting yellow colored smiley
[03:57] <enzo> & get the right users to right home owner..
[03:57] <keleus> trying to print to a windows ME machine. Cups is saying something about backend failing
[03:58] <deeps_> so, unable to download at higher speeds
[03:58] <enzo> here's the setup
[03:58] <deeps_> what can i do now?
[03:58] <slavik> enzo: things like hotplug aren't ... since there is no hotplug in dapper :D
[03:58] <enzo> I've got a 10 gig disk for OS
[03:58] <enzo> and 200 gig disk for home
[03:58] <Jimmey__> deeps_, using firefox? Bit-torrent?
[03:58] <enzo> when I do an install
[03:58] <keleus> for that matter i couldnt print directly, the jobs would just stop every time i tried to start them
[03:58] <LinuxJones> deeps_: you mean using downloading bittorrent files or other p2p apps ?
[03:58] <enzo> I always keep the last 10 gig disk for config files
[03:58] <deeps_> i am using Bittorrent
[03:59] <deeps_> yeah linuxjones, am dl bt files
[03:59] <keleus> anyone know how to convert a .ps file to a .pdf?
[03:59] <jita> if i want to use 2.6.15 kernel, do i need to get it from daper repo?
[03:59] <deeps_> AZUREUS
[03:59] <slavik> enzo: you are going beyond me :(
[03:59] <LinuxJones> deeps_: you need to configure your firewall to allow a few ports for bittorrent
[03:59] <Jimmey__> deeps_, you're going to have to configure your router, and firewall. For the router, try www.portforward.com. For the firewall, try Firestarter
[03:59] <enzo> that worked kool when I went from mandrake to fedora.. but fedora to ubuntu, well, I had to redo all..
[03:59] <slavik> keleus: look for ps2pdf ... there should be something available
[03:59] <snoopy> Hi, there!
[03:59] <deeps_> i disabled the firewall
[03:59] <enzo> lol
[03:59] <enzo> oh.. well
[03:59] <enzo> :/
[03:59] <Jimmey__> snoopy, Hey
[03:59] <nikosgr> Warbo: ic an find one :(
[03:59] <nikosgr> i cant
[03:59] <Frogzoo> keleus: ps2pdf
[03:59] <Warbo> jita: I would only do that if you upgrade EVERYTHING to Dapper
[03:59] <deeps_> i have been using firestarter
[03:59] <enzo> Thank you for the strait mount :))
[03:59] <slavik> enzo: the passwd should be transferable I think ... but I won't vouvh for that
[03:59] <deeps_> right now, i disabled it..
[03:59] <toMte83a> anyone knows about a nice calendar?? for Ubuntu / Linux... ?
[04:00] <snoopy> i wanna give dapper a try, but i can't install with network as it won't find my usbnet card
[04:00] <deeps_> still am getting the same problem
[04:00] <slavik> np
[04:00] <jita> Warbo: otherwise kee on using 2.6.12?
[04:00] <jita> kee/keep
[04:00] <Jimmey__> deeps_, that wont disable the firewall. Configure firestarter by adding a policy to let the required port be open.
[04:00] <LinuxJones> deeps_: ok you need to allow these ports access >> 6881-6889
[04:00] <slavik> toMte83a: like apple's ical?
[04:00] <Warbo> nikosgr: Does it really have to be greek? The packages are the same, just set your locale to greek and they will all be in greek
[04:00] <slavik> I think evolution has a calender thing
[04:00] <deeps_> yeah.. i did it n tried
[04:00] <enzo> I wonder if passwd is the only file ?.. I'm also thinkg about transfering the samba folder straight over..
[04:00] <jarle> I have moved my /lib dir to another partition so now I have booted a LiveCD to setup a symlink to the new partition. Should the symlink point to where the dir is located NOW or should it point to where is is mounted upon booting Ubuntu_
[04:00] <deeps_> after all such efforts, i now remain clueless
[04:00] <LinuxJones> deeps_: did you re-start firestarter ?
[04:00] <slavik> enzo: program configs should tansfer over
[04:00] <Jimmey__> deeps_, not just firestarter, but your router aswell
[04:01] <enzo> I'm afraid of having probs with pre-existing home directories not having the right user numbers..
[04:01] <keleus> i'm getting this on the printer's status page. "/usr/lib/cups/backend/smb failed"
[04:01] <nikosgr> warbo: no they dotn have to be in greek
[04:01] <toMte83a> slavik dont heard of that one either, just something to whrite some important happenings and dates in...
[04:01] <Jimmey__> jarie, the mount point, I think
[04:01] <enzo> or group numbers
[04:01] <slavik> enzo: system configs too, you just have to make sure what is not in dapper that was in breezy
[04:01] <deeps_> k.. i will try now
[04:01] <nikosgr> but i dotn even know of a foreign one
[04:01] <slavik> toMte83a: try evolution, I think it has a calendar program
[04:01] <LinuxJones> deeps_: as Jimmey__ points out if your behind a router you will have to do it there as well via your webbrowser configuration utility.
[04:01] <enzo> And I still have this USB problem not wanting to work on hardisks
[04:01] <enzo> but I'm gonna take this step by step..
[04:01] <Warbo> nikosgr: Just use another server from Europe. Ubuntu actually chooses the closest one to you (well, it set mine to UK) during install
[04:02] <deeps_> sorry guys.. am dumb at all these things..
[04:02] <enzo> Leeme try to x-fer the config files & passwd.
[04:02] <slavik> enzo: add the line to fstab ... read up on specifics though
[04:02] <Jimmey__> deeps_, usually available at the same address as your default gateway ( mine's 192.168.1.1 )
[04:02] <nikosgr> Warbo: can you name one please?
[04:02] <Jimmey__> deeps_, I'll talk you through, if you want.
[04:02] <deeps_> k sure
[04:02] <deeps_> :)
[04:02] <enzo> will do that, as long as I need this disk.. prob is that I have other sdisks, they're fat32...
[04:02] <slavik> deeps_: there is no dumb in linux ... there is unknowing ... dumb is when you don't want to learn :P
[04:02] <LinuxJones> deeps_: your not dumb, it's just something new :)
[04:02] <Jimmey__> slavik, true
[04:03] <enzo> I use external disk to backup home directory.. just in case..
[04:03] <nikosgr> ill try deb http://ftp.ntua.gr dapper main
[04:03] <slavik> and Jimmey__ is dumb :P
[04:03] <nikosgr> to se if that works
[04:03] <Warbo> nikosgr: Here is my dapper line in my sources.list "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse"
[04:03] <whaley_work> slavik speaks the truth
[04:03] <deeps_> thanks guys
[04:03] <deeps_> :)
[04:03] <toMte83a> slavik yeah, Evolution works kinda good..
[04:03] <enzo> averyone here uses the server as backup.. if they're disks fail, they get it all back
[04:03] <slavik> then elect me as president
[04:03] <nikosgr> warbo i must add this to the field in custom in synaptic?
[04:03] <Jimmey__> slavik, thanks =-S XoD
[04:03] <slavik> enzo: offsite tape backups ;)
[04:03] <enzo> and I keep a regular backup on external disk... just in case a fire breaks out.. ya never know...
[04:03] <whaley_work> slavik: vote has been cast for '08
[04:03] <whaley_work> :)
[04:03] <cahill_john> WARBO u there
[04:04] <slavik> Jimmey__: any time ;)
[04:04] <Warbo> nikosgr: That will give you standard Dapper, as well as Dapper Universe and Dapper Multiverse. If you put it in the custom field
[04:04] <cahill_john> i have another problem
[04:04] <slavik> whaley_work: only I am not US born :(
[04:04] <cahill_john> WARBO ?
[04:04] <Jimmey__> slavik, neither Arnold Schawrtzerthingy
[04:04] <nikosgr> i will then :)
[04:04] <Warbo> cahill_john: Hello. (Why are you so impatient :))
[04:04] <enzo> But, my ext usb disks just don't get accepted... my lil usb flashdisks work fine
[04:04] <cahill_john> i thot u werent there
[04:04] <snoopy> i wanna give dapper a try, but i can't install with network as it won't find my usbnet card
[04:04] <enzo> butr the harddisks in usb case, nope..
[04:04] <slavik> well, we will violently overthrow the gov't ... by running naked across the white house lawn :D
[04:04] <snoopy> ups
[04:04] <keleus> q
[04:04] <cahill_john> yeah i need to ask u how to configure my DNS server
[04:04] <snoopy> sorry for the repost... wrong keys
[04:05] <Warbo> cahill_john: Sorry. I have ABSOLUTLEY no idea about DNS
[04:05] <cahill_john> both the preferred and the alternate
[04:05] <slavik> enzo: it might be something with the controller (ATA to USB translator)
[04:05] <cahill_john> ok anyone in there configuring DNS
[04:05] <Jimmey__> cahill_john, are you using a router?
[04:05] <cahill_john> no
[04:05] <cahill_john> but i need to config my DNS
[04:05] <slavik> cahill_john: you are setting up your own DNS server? or you need one?
[04:05] <cahill_john> lemme google
[04:05] <Jimmey__> Okay, do you happen to have a Windows machine in your house, or access to one, that has access to the internet?
[04:05] <slavik> ahh
[04:05] <cahill_john> yeah
[04:06] <cahill_john> linux is on the same system
[04:06] <LinuxJones> cahill_john: best to hit google for a dns howto there are tons of them
[04:06] <cahill_john> ok thanx
[04:06] <Jimmey__> cahill_john, in a command prompt in Windows, type ipconfig/all
[04:06] <Jimmey__> It will tell you both
[04:06] <slavik> btw, network manager is freaking awesome
[04:06] <nikosgr> warbo: cna you plz exaplin it?
[04:06] <nikosgr> that line
[04:07] <slavik> ubuntu lost 1 user, btw ...
[04:07] <slavik> my friend could not get a hard drive working in ubuntu ... :(
[04:07] <Jimmey__> But could with other operating systems?
[04:07] <slavik> for some reason his other drive was getting detected ...
[04:08] <slavik> they are both on the same IDE channel, too
[04:08] <slavik> and mandrake sees both ... weirdness
[04:08] <nikosgr> damn, although i updates repositroies i still can\t fidn vidalia
[04:08] <Jimmey__> ubotu, tell Jimmey__ about thankyou
[04:08] <Jimmey__> Damn
[04:08] <Warbo> nikosgr: OK. The deb" bit tells it to get regular packages (deb-src would get source code) the address tells it where to get them from. The dapper tells it the distribution, the main is the main ubuntu section, restricted is for non-free (not open source) stuff like nvidia drivers. universe tells it to add universe, the huge list of free packages which are not supported by Canonical and finally multiverse adds the list of no
[04:08] <Jimmey__> ubotu, tell Jimmey__ about thanks
[04:08] <cahill_john> i find all crap in google
[04:09] <DBO> slavik, sometimes you just have to go with whatever distro is best for your machine
[04:09] <cahill_john> isnt there anything about DNS in ur minds?
[04:09] <slavik> DBO: no ... ubuntu is best!!!
[04:09] <Jimmey__> cahill_john, in an MS-DOS prompt, 'ipconfig/all' will tell you
[04:09] <slavik> his other choice is gentoo
[04:09] <whaley_work> hmmm, this reminds me:  is there a list of laptops that are known to work very well with ubuntu?
[04:09] <slavik> cahill_john: you need a DNS server? or are you setting one up?
[04:10] <apokryphos> whaley_work: /msg ubotu hardware
[04:10] <whaley_work> I'm in the market to buy a laptop, but don't want to be arsed with windows or a mac
[04:10] <slavik> whaley_work: compaq v2000z I have worked pretty much out of the box
[04:10] <whaley_work> apokryphos: thanks :)
[04:10] <Jimmey__> whaley_work, mine's a Packard Bell Easynote R4, and it EVERYTHING works
[04:10] <enzo> I got a Asus laptipe, works wonderfully w/ubuntu
[04:10] <whaley_work> thanks guys :)
[04:10] <enzo> *laptop
[04:10] <kkathman> wow Packard Bell is still making stuff?? hehe
[04:10] <slavik> !v2000z
[04:10] <ubotu> methinks v2000z is The followng wiki page has some information on fixing problems you might encounter with installing Breezy Badger on the Compaq Presario V2000Z. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioV2000Z
[04:10] <DBO> whaley_work, pretty much everything works, the widescreens take a bit extra configuration sometimes, but its not a deal breaker
[04:10] <Frogzoo> whaley_work: just be sure it's an nvid vid card, not ati
[04:11] <slavik> Frogzoo: I resent that statement
[04:11] <whaley_work> ya, i have an nvida card on my desktop and it works well with every linux distro i've tried
[04:11] <Frogzoo> slavik: too bad :p
[04:11] <slavik> Frogzoo: ati support is getting better and better
[04:11] <whaley_work> i've only heard horror storeis about ati's
[04:11] <nikosgr> Warbo: yes
[04:11] <DBO> slavik, that may be true, but its still not fantastic
[04:11] <enzo> anyone here know about pmout.allow in the etc folder???
[04:11] <Frogzoo> slavik: so it sux marginally less than it used to
[04:11] <xerophyte> does anybody know why do i get this error ount: block device /dev/sda5 is write-protected, mounting read-only the fstab entry for that /dev/sda5 /       ext3    defaults 1 1 and when i  try to  mount -o remount  / does anybody know does that mount is mounting with read-onley
[04:11] <slavik> DBO: he told me horror stories of rpm and urpmi
[04:11] <nikosgr> damn thsi xchat is not to what iam used too
[04:12] <slavik> Frogzoo: much less :P
[04:12] <slavik> nikosgr: gaim :)
[04:12] <nikosgr> knoppix xhat is very differnt form this xchat
[04:12] <Elazar> I did a default install of Ubuntu 5.1 and I'm getting this error when I try to do a JAR install of JEdit: Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[04:12] <Jimmey__> slavik, I was about to suggest the same
[04:12] <nikosgr> gaim is intant messaging
[04:12] <nikosgr> iam talkign about chating
[04:12] <Jimmey__> nikosgr, I'm using Gaim
[04:12] <Frogzoo> slavik: I have an ati on my lappie, worse luck
[04:12] <nikosgr> Gaim?
[04:12] <Elazar> Can anyone suggest how to get around it?
[04:12] <nikosgr> you talk to irc through gaim?
[04:12] <nikosgr> !!1
[04:12] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nikosgr
[04:12] <Warbo> nikosgr: I am using GAIM this very second to chat to you
[04:12] <nikosgr> wooow!
[04:13] <nikosgr> i didnt know Gaim can be used to chatting too!
[04:13] <Warbo> nikosgr: That's 'cos my XChat crashes :(
[04:13] <slavik> DBO: urpmi broke itself when updating itself. and then there was rpm dependency hell (when he told me what it was ... I finally learned what horror it was)
[04:13] <nikosgr> i though gaim was soemthign like MSN
[04:13] <enzo> xerophye... fstab saying rw for sda 5 ?
[04:13] <Frogzoo> slavik: to be fair, ati's 2d support is very good, but they're badly let down in the 3d department
[04:13] <slavik> nikosgr: gaim supports more chatting protocols than any other software
[04:13] <Warbo> nikosgr: GAIM connects to MSN, Yahoo!, AIM, Jabber (Google Talk) and others
[04:13] <b08y> hello, does some one get also a damaged icon themes after updateing yesterday? (dapper beta)
[04:13] <DBO> slavik, getting out of dependancy hell is easy... you get your install discs... =P
[04:13] <Frogzoo> b08y: -> #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[04:13] <Jimmey__> !dapper
[04:13] <nikosgr> wooow
[04:13] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:13] <nikosgr> thank you guiys
[04:14] <slavik> Frogzoo: I will agree that ati driver support for linux is crap ... their driver support for windows used to be terrible, too ...
[04:14] <nikosgr> i ddin knew this atll
[04:14] <slavik> Frogzoo: remember?
[04:14] <nikosgr> xchat is very differnt that what iam sude to
[04:14] <slavik> Frogzoo: I have ati 200m on my lappy
[04:14] <nikosgr> maybe its because it is gnomes xhat and not kde
[04:14] <cahill_john> PPL I FOUND NO RESULTS MATCHING MY REQUEST
[04:14] <slavik> nikosgr: xchat is a GUI, GUI requires you to poke (click) things and figure things out
[04:14] <waylandbill> Where do I make a suggestion for the Live CD Installer?
[04:14] <NoUse> Elazar search synaptic for gtk and java, there are gtk bindings for java you probably need to install
[04:14] <nikosgr> i like irssi as well
[04:14] <enzo> slavik.. seems that I should add mount lines to pmount for addition mounts.... from what I figure..
[04:14] <Jimmey__> cahill_john, I've told you twice what you could do to solve you problem
[04:14] <cahill_john> ANYONE
[04:14] <slavik> cahill_john: do you need a DNS server or are you setting one up?
[04:15] <slavik> enzo: would make sense ...
[04:15] <NoUse> !caps
[04:15] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[04:15] <cahill_john> i need to enter it for my connection to work
[04:15] <nikosgr> but when i open console i see this bloody white backgreound and ti really gets oin my nrvers
[04:15] <nikosgr> i want it black with greenforeground
[04:15] <cahill_john> how do i just enterit
[04:15] <slavik> ahh, so you need a DNS server
[04:15] <cahill_john> yeah
[04:15] <nikosgr> but it sdeosnt hav an option
[04:15] <Warbo> waylandbill: Maybe the #ubuntu-devel (I think it is called)
[04:15] <cahill_john> so slavik what do i do
[04:15] <slavik> cahill_john: firstly: 'sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf'
[04:15] <enzo> guess I'll man pmount.. LOL !
[04:16] <slavik> enzo: that's the spirit (/me knows nothing about pmount)
[04:16] <rane_> how can i connect my linux computer to my windows comp?
[04:16] <slavik> cahill_john: that will bring up a text file in gedit
[04:16] <Jimmey__> rane_, you'll need Samba
[04:16] <DBO> rane_, to share files?  samba
[04:16] <rane_> what's that
[04:16] <Jimmey__> DBO, damn, I'm too quick..
[04:16] <Warbo> rane_: With a network card, or wireless. Either way use SAMBA (don't ask me though)
[04:16] <cahill_john> ok
[04:16] <Jimmey__> rane, lets you share files
[04:16] <NoUse> !tell rane about samba
[04:17] <cahill_john> hey SLAVIK
[04:17] <slavik> cahill_john: add this to the end, nameserver 64.105.124.155
[04:17] <antisocial_boris> how do i set up a network proxy?
[04:17] <slavik> everything after the comma
[04:17] <port7> apt-get install squid
[04:17] <cahill_john> i have the dns server no.
[04:17] <Warbo> be right back
[04:17] <Jimmey__> cahill_john, why didn't you say!?
[04:17] <cahill_john> it is 202.144.105.4
[04:17] <slavik> what would make a good OS for a transparent proxy?
[04:17] <nikosgr> ummm, ima looking at GAIM but i dotn see how can i connect to an irc networjk through it
[04:18] <slavik> cahill_john: add that line ... that's a DNS server
[04:18] <slavik> nikosgr: add an account
[04:18] <Jimmey__> nikosgr, right click on the gaim icon, and click 'accounts'
[04:18] <rane_> what's samba
[04:18] <slavik> in account type, you select IRC
[04:18] <slavik> !samba
[04:18] <ubotu> well, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[04:18] <Jimmey__> slavik, you're on fire, man
[04:18] <DBO> rane_, it lets you share files between windows and linux machines
[04:18] <slavik> yes
[04:18] <nikosgr> a y yes!
[04:18] <nikosgr> it support protocls
[04:18] <slavik> nikosgr: yup, what did I say? :P
[04:18] <cahill_john> Jimmey i have seen my DNS server no.s in windows and need to put them in ubuntu
[04:18] <nikosgr> i must inform it that i need an irc network yes...
[04:19] <nikosgr> slavik: yeah ;)
[04:19] <cahill_john> how can i do that
[04:19] <cppnewbie> nikosgr, #ubuntu-gr :D
[04:19] <slavik> cahill_john: change the IP address then if you want
[04:19] <Jimmey__> cahill_john, system, administration, networking, then click the DNS tab
[04:19] <enzo> I think I got the answer..
[04:19] <nikosgr> there is also ubuntu-gr??!
[04:19] <nikosgr> that would be very nice!
[04:19] <cahill_john> how do i do it in the terminal
[04:19] <cppnewbie> yep
[04:19] <slavik> nikosgr: it fills the irc server with freenode, the network you are on right now
[04:19] <cppnewbie> there is
[04:19] <Jimmey__> !gr
[04:19] <ubotu> methinks gr is #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia ellhnes xrhstes
[04:19] <Jimmey__> cahill_john, why?
[04:19] <cahill_john> bcoz my GUI is bugging me
[04:19] <Jimmey__> Ehrm
[04:19] <cahill_john> bcoz i tried doing it
[04:20] <Jimmey__> Man ifconfig
[04:20] <nikosgr> slavik: yeah by itself!
[04:20] <cahill_john> ok then
[04:20] <nikosgr> i diodn even had to type it!
[04:20] <DBO> cahill_john, ok, you can do it this way "sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf"
[04:20] <slavik> cahill_john: you need to exit gedit first I think
[04:20] <DBO> cahill_john, then add the line "nameserver <IPADDRESS>"
[04:20] <slavik> DBO: not vi
[04:20] <slavik> DBO: gedit ...
[04:20] <enzo> Important  note  for  Debian:  The  permission  to  execute  pmount  is restricted to members of the system group plugdev. Please add all desk top users who shall be able to use pmount to this group by executing -   adduser user plugdev  (as root).
[04:20] <DBO> slavik, he wanted to do it in terminal
[04:20] <cahill_john> i have my DNS server no.s
[04:20] <slavik> then nano
[04:20] <nikosgr> an i can be loggen into at rhe sma time with msn and irc and google chat?
[04:21] <cppnewbie> to anyone that can help, while installing some packages i encounter errors. is it possible that they happen cuz of the fact that i am using 64 bits?
[04:21] <cahill_john> they r 202.144.105.4
[04:21] <slavik> cahill_john: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[04:21] <cahill_john> ok
[04:21] <cppnewbie> or it also depends on the errors?
[04:21] <enzo> hence my seeing the disk & being unable to mount it !!
[04:21] <Jimmey__> nikosgr, yes
[04:21] <slavik> cppnewbie: possibly
[04:21] <nikosgr> that great
[04:21] <slavik> cppnewbie: and depends on errors
[04:21] <nikosgr> hey iam coming now through gaim!
[04:21] <cppnewbie> well ill post a simple one
[04:21] <DBO> slavik, you got a problem with the worlds "best" text editor =P
[04:21] <Jimmey__> cppnewbie, you're better off using a 32bit system. Or Gentoo XoD
[04:21] <Jimmey__> DBO, XoD
[04:21] <cahill_john> slavik after that
[04:21] <slavik> DBO: I started using vi after going through vitutor... but new people should use something with lower learning curve
[04:22] <cppnewbie> well ive heard that u can just as well use a 64 bit system with symlinks to a 32 bit system chroot
[04:22] <slavik> cahill_john: you're in nano?
[04:22] <cahill_john> i am in windows man
[04:22] <DBO> slavik, its not a learning curve, its more of a learning cliff
[04:22] <cahill_john> if i could connect to IRC in linux i wouldnt be here
[04:22] <slavik> cahill_john: scroll down to the last line, make a new one if needed ...
[04:22] <Jimmey__> cppnewbie, you've just baffled me with technical words. You clearly know more than me :)
[04:22] <enzo> slavik.. this is new to me.. to uses usb plugins, you gatta be membre of group plugdev??!!!
[04:22] <slavik> enzo: I guess
[04:22] <cppnewbie> Jimmey__, i barely know a thing about ubuntu. i havent even used it for a week
[04:22] <enzo> wow.. that's not very kool...
[04:22] <DBO> enzo, its a security thing
[04:23] <cahill_john> add what line
[04:23] <enzo> shoud be a line on this somewhere in ubuntu forums.. important nowadays..
[04:23] <slavik> nameserver
[04:23] <cahill_john> let me tell u my DNS no.s
[04:23] <slavik> followed by a space and the IP address (number) of the DNS server
[04:23] <slavik> do same line for each number
[04:23] <cahill_john> my preferred DNS no. is 202.144.105.4
[04:23] <enzo> goona check it out... bbl
[04:23] <slavik> nameserver 202.144.105.4
[04:23] <cahill_john> my alternate is 202.144.10.50
[04:24] <slavik> that is the line you want
[04:24] <Elazar> NoUse: Thanks. :)
[04:24] <slavik> nameserver 202.144.10.50
[04:24] <cahill_john> in the end?
[04:24] <slavik> is the other line
[04:24] <slavik> yes
[04:24] <Jimmey__> cahill_john, system, administration, networking..
[04:24] <Jimmey__> It's that simple :S
[04:24] <cahill_john> do i add 2 lines then?
[04:24] <slavik> yes
[04:24] <slavik> Jimmey__: I think he is editing it from windows ...
[04:24] <NikosGr> hey
[04:25] <NikosGr> hi!
[04:25] <DBO> with the ext2 file system plugin mcdoogle?
[04:25] <Jimmey__> slavik, oh
[04:25] <NikosGr> very beautifull
[04:25] <slavik> hey, who are you?
[04:25] <cahill_john> so i add these 2 lines slavik
[04:25] <Jimmey__> The gaim guy..
[04:25] <Jimmey__> :P
[04:25] <slavik> cahill_john: yes
[04:25] <NikosGr> slavik: :)
[04:25] <cahill_john> and press ctrl. 0
[04:25] <slavik> omg, he killed niko!!!
[04:25] <slavik> :D
[04:25] <cahill_john> or is it ctrl. + o
[04:25] <slavik> cahill_john: yes
[04:25] <slavik> then ctrl+x to exit
[04:25] <NikosGr> loool
[04:25] <cahill_john> then u sure it'll work?
[04:25] <slavik> yes
[04:26] <cahill_john> bcoz verything occured fine till noe
[04:26] <slavik> unless something changes it ...
[04:26] <cahill_john> my ip got configured correctly
[04:26] <slavik> cahill_john: in terminal do 'sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.backup'
[04:26] <cahill_john> so did my subnet mask and my dw
[04:26] <slavik> but not dns servers?
[04:26] <slavik> cahill_john: I had the same thing
[04:26] <cahill_john> u said nano?
[04:26] <slavik> cahill_john: yes
[04:27] <cahill_john> now why did u change
[04:27] <slavik> nano is an easier to use editor than vi
[04:27] <slavik> gedit is a graphical text editor
[04:27] <cahill_john> i use nano so i am proficient with  it
[04:27] <slavik> oh, ok
[04:27] <cahill_john> i use it for g++
[04:27] <slavik> vi is another command line editor
[04:27] <cahill_john> i hate it
[04:27] <DBO> its wonderful
[04:27] <slavik> if you code, look into vi evetually
[04:27] <cahill_john> i know
[04:27] <cahill_john> yeah
[04:27] <cahill_john> so after i exit
[04:28] <cahill_john> what do i do
[04:28] <slavik> cahill_john: look for a file named 'vitutor'
[04:28] <cahill_john> ok
[04:28] <slavik> nothing ... they should work right away
[04:28] <cahill_john> ok thanx
[04:28] <slavik> you might have to restart your program though
[04:28] <cahill_john> ok
[04:28] <cahill_john> i.e. my firefox browser
[04:28] <slavik> yes
[04:29] <cahill_john> ok man thanks a million
[04:29] <slavik> np
[04:29] <NikosGr> guys jabber is googls chat server?
[04:29] <DBO> yes
[04:29] <cahill_john> but i'll be back with more linux troubles
[04:29] <slavik> Jimmey__: ib that render, did you do the textures?
[04:29] <cahill_john> ok bye
[04:29] <slavik> cahill_john: I or someone else will be here :)
[04:29] <Jimmey__> slavik, every single one
[04:29] <slavik> NikosGr: other way around :)
[04:29] <DBO> NikosGr, do you need help setting up gtalk in GAIM?
[04:29] <NikosGr> ye splease
[04:30] <slavik> Jimmey__: want to UVMap and texture a Glock21C?
[04:30] <NikosGr> becaus ei also have an account there
[04:30] <DBO> NikosGr, ok, go to the add new account area
[04:30] <slavik> NikosGr: there is no voice support though
[04:30] <Jimmey__> slavik, that's a handgun, right?
[04:30] <NikosGr> no problem
[04:30] <slavik> yes
[04:30] <slavik> Jimmey__: it's about 2k triangles
[04:30] <DBO> NikosGr, click add, a new window will pop up, in there are a bunch of options, here is what you need to fill out
[04:30] <Jimmey__> slavik, I don't know - The only UV map in that render was the floor, and that was really simple
[04:30] <slavik> p00p
[04:31] <NikosGr> DBO: i did fill them
[04:31] <NikosGr> but still i cant connect
[04:31] <DBO> NikosGr, your screen name should not have the @gmail.com part
[04:31] <slavik> NikosGr: any errors?
[04:31] <NikosGr> a yes guys
[04:31] <NikosGr> i was entering @gmail.com as well
[04:31] <Jimmey__> slavik, can I see the model?
[04:31] <NikosGr> because i though i must fill it all
[04:31] <slavik> Jimmey__: hold on ...
[04:31] <strav> he, anyone kind enough to tell me where does sendmail.cf got it's value for the cw line? (I've seen on other distros (other than debian/ubuntu) there's the sendmail.cw... )
[04:31] <DBO> NikosGr, server is gmail.com, resources is game, and in advanced options TLS if available should be checked, connect port is 5222 and connect server is talk.google.com
[04:32] <DBO> resource is gaim* (sorry)
[04:33] <NikosGr> yeah!
[04:33] <NikosGr> what is resources stand for?
[04:34] <DBO> NikosGr, no idear, I think its an identifier for... something... yes
[04:34] <martin_> hi
[04:34] <DBO> hi
[04:34] <NikosGr> like an ident or something
[04:34] <DBO> NikosGr, I believe so yes
[04:34] <martin_> my first time in irc :)
[04:34] <hajuu> Anyone know why like 90% of the time I get "bad header lines" from apt-get au universe repositories, and sometiems it works perfect?
[04:35] <DBO> martin_, here for help or fun? =)
[04:35] <NikosGr> alias is the handle i wan tot appear right?
[04:35] <martin_> just fun
[04:35] <DBO> NikosGr, yes
[04:35] <slavik> for you
[04:35] <koobi> would anyone happen to know how a windows disk is acessible via the live CD? how can it be mounted? df -Th doesnt show any windows disks
[04:35] <DBO> martin_, the fun room is #ubuntu-offtopic, this is for tech support mostly =)
[04:35] <martin_> have just installed ubuntu in vmware
[04:35] <Jimmey__> koobi, fdisk -l
[04:35] <Jimmey__> Try that
[04:35] <slavik> Jimmey__: I have a terrible render (low poly)
[04:36] <_jason> koobi: sudo fdisk -l
[04:36] <martin_> oh, sorry
[04:36] <NikosGr> when i configure gaim chats
[04:36] <koobi> thanks, i'll try. its for a friends PC, cant try it here coz i dont hve win here
[04:36] <cppnewbie> is it possible to change the white background of the terminal to black and the letters to white?
[04:36] <NikosGr> i cant understand what i must fiull as screen anem and what as an alias
[04:36] <NoUse> NikosGr its so when you are logged into your jabber account from multiple accounts, you can set stuff like 'home' or 'office' so people know where you are chatting from,  In better jabber clients, you can set priorities and do some pretty cool stuff
[04:36] <Jimmey__> cppnewbie, yep
[04:36] <Jimmey__> Try editing the profile
[04:36] <DBO> NikosGr, alias is what will show up on YOUR buddy list.  This is handy in cases were people have obscure screen names and you just want their real name to show up
[04:37] <NikosGr> NoUse: Aaaah!, isee so that the use o\f resources
[04:37] <martin_> how can i change channel?
[04:37] <NoUse> NikosGr yup
[04:37] <cppnewbie> Jimmey__, how?
[04:37] <Jimmey__> Jimmey__, hit the 'edit' tab
[04:37] <Jimmey__> Let me check
[04:37] <DBO> martin_, into the text entry box type "/j #ubuntu-offtopic"
[04:37] <Jimmey__> Yeah
[04:37] <slavik> jimmey, a bad render of the gun ... I have the wavefront obj file if you want it
[04:37] <Jimmey__> 'Edit', 'Profiles'
[04:37] <martin_> thx
[04:38] <hajuu> Anyone know why like 90% of the time I get "bad header lines" from apt-get au universe repositories, and sometiems it works perfect?
[04:38] <Jimmey__> slavik, I don't think that the import scripts are working in my Blender
[04:38] <DBO> hajuu, /etc/apt/sources.list -> pastebin
[04:38] <Jimmey__> slavik, it doesn't appear to be sending, although I've accepted
[04:38] <slavik> Jimmey__: take the render :P
[04:39] <slavik> hmm, I'll pastebin it
[04:39] <slavik> !pastebin
[04:39] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[04:39] <cppnewbie> Jimmey__, thx, its better this way
[04:40] <Jimmey__> cppnewbie, http://jimmey.ath.cx/content/Screenshot.png
[04:40] <NikosGr> screen names and alias are soemthign different on irc conf of gaim?
[04:40] <slavik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12926
[04:40] <Jimmey__> Thanks
[04:40] <slavik> NikosGr: correct
[04:40] <hajuu> http://pastebin.com/683043 --sources.list
[04:40] <DBO> Jimmey__, your background is sexerific
[04:40] <hajuu> I can apt-get update, with no errors
[04:40] <AnsiC> hello
[04:41] <Jimmey__> DBO, thanks ;)
[04:41] <hajuu> but downloading fails
[04:41] <NikosGr> i understand screen anme as handle
[04:41] <DBO> hi AnsiC
[04:41] <Jimmey__> Slavik, that's a nice model :P
[04:41] <slavik> I made a higher poly one
[04:41] <DBO> hajuu, any way we can talk you into upgrading?
[04:41] <NikosGr> but in alias what must i fill?
[04:41] <slavik> the tac light lacks detail though
[04:41] <slavik> because I don't have any shots of the back of it
[04:41] <hajuu> dbo: sure... when my cds arrive.
[04:41] <hajuu> :D
[04:42] <slavik> NikosGr: leave it blank
[04:42] <NikosGr> yes
[04:42] <NikosGr> ubuntu is getting prettier and more easier at the time! :0
[04:42] <DBO> hajuu, my guess is the problem isnt with your machine but that might just be me being stupid.  You COULD try using a different countries servers and see if that helps
[04:42] <NikosGr> if only i could change teminal consoles background
[04:42] <NikosGr> color and foreground color and size
[04:43] <DBO> Jimmey__, how do I talk you into giving me a high res version of that?
[04:43] <NikosGr> i hate white as bg
[04:43] <Jimmey__> DBO, the background?
[04:43] <DBO> Jimmey__, yes
[04:43] <Jimmey__> DBO, like this
[04:43] <cppnewbie> NikosGr, ellhniko ubuntu exeis?
[04:43] <NikosGr> oxi xeno
[04:43] <Jimmey__> Jimmey__, can I please have a high-res version of that background?
[04:43] <Jimmey__> Then I'd say,
[04:43] <Jimmey__> Sure, let me find it
[04:43] <Jimmey__> ;)
[04:43] <slavik> I'd give it for a sexual favor ...
[04:44] <DBO> Jimmey__, can I please have a high-res version of that background?
[04:44] <slavik> or money
[04:44] <Jimmey__> DBO, sure, let me find it
[04:44] <slavik> watch Jimmey__ say he doesn't have it
[04:44] <NikosGr> sorry i got disconenctes
[04:44] <NikosGr> did i missed soemthing?
[04:44] <slavik> NikosGr: gr = greece?
[04:44] <DBO> not really
[04:44] <NikosGr> yes slavik
[04:44] <slavik> k
[04:44] <Jimmey__> DBO, the good news, or the bad news?
[04:45] <axisme> what background?
[04:45] <NikosGr> umm any way i can chnage the terminal colors?
[04:45] <NikosGr> bg and fg
[04:45] <slavik> NikosGr: yes
[04:45] <Jimmey__> http://jimmey.ath.cx/content/Screenshot.png
[04:45] <slavik> profile
[04:45] <NikosGr> conosle are ncie when they are green on black :)
[04:45] <DBO> bad news?
[04:46] <rune_kg> #?
[04:46] <NikosGr> and thay are bigeger sizes
[04:46] <Jimmey__> DBO, I've not got the original, high-res
[04:46] <DBO> doh
[04:46] <Elazar> NoUse: Did what you suggested and now I get this when I run the jEdit installer: ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[04:46] <utente> sorry, a new user, sandra. May someone can tell me how install java on Ubuntu?
[04:46] <Jimmey__> DBO, good news is, I've got an trimmed version that's ready made for terminal backgrounds, and...
[04:46] <axisme> can i have a copy of that background too? :-D
[04:46] <Jimmey__> I'll host it on FTP :P
[04:47] <teletubbie> hi
[04:47] <teletubbie> what tool do I install to see the cpu temperature?
[04:47] <NoUse> Elazar I would talk to the Jedit people
[04:47] <Jimmey__> Actually, guys, try http://jimmey.ath.cx/content/Firefox_wallpaper2.png
[04:47] <DBO> telemaco, lm-sensors
[04:47] <NikosGr> is it easy to do what i want or is it complicated?
[04:47] <Elazar> NoUse: K, thanks. Don't suppose you have any suggest as to why Ubuntu sees my Creative MuVo 256 MB as a "973.8 MB Removable Volume?"
[04:47] <slavik> NikosGr: profile
[04:48] <slavik> right click in window and then settings or whatever
[04:48] <slavik> or file -> settings
[04:48] <slavik> poke around the menu
[04:48] <Putiikki> Elazar: my 1GB muvo says same
[04:48] <slavik> Elazar: are you against the extra storage ???
[04:48] <teletubbie> how do I use lm-sensor?
[04:48] <NikosGr> edit->profiels i see
[04:48] <teletubbie> any aplet for that?\
[04:48] <NoUse> Elazar well my Muve 64MB is seen as a "removable volume" but I don't know why it is messing up the size so much
[04:48] <Elazar> slavik: I just know it's not there. ;)
[04:48] <NikosGr> yeahh
[04:49] <Elazar> NoUse: Hm... K, thanks.
[04:49] <slavik> Elazar: well, wasn't there a 512MB mp3 player with a 4gb card or something?
[04:49] <NikosGr> it sthere i can anjust anythign now!
[04:49] <slavik> :P
[04:49] <NikosGr> thanks!
[04:49] <VR_> how can i do a clean install of dapper over the network, even though i only have a breezy cd.
[04:49] <ubuntu> Vi saluto
[04:49] <ubuntu> com?
[04:49] <slavik> mark needs to get on here more often so we can bug him about russians in space :D
[04:50] <teletubbie> how do I use lm-sensor?
[04:50] <VR_> i tried a server install with breezy, then changed the sources.list to read dapper instead of breezy and did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop... that gave me problems though
[04:50] <slavik> yes it would VR_ ... not a good idea to do that
[04:50] <VR_> slavik: is there any other method?
[04:50] <slavik> VR_: change those back to breezy and the update
[04:50] <zielony> Do you know some good free isp panels ? (something like CPanel)
[04:51] <slavik> VR_: you want to upgrade to dapper?
[04:51] <VR_> slavik: oh i tried it on my test machine, i've since reinstalled breezy on there.
[04:51] <slavik> zielony: SSH ;)
[04:51] <slavik> VR_: you can use the update manager :)
[04:51] <VR_> slavik: not really upgrade, but do a clean-install
[04:51] <slavik> !update
[04:51] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[04:51] <slavik> there is a wiki page on upgrading to dapper from breezy if you want
[04:51] <slavik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12928
[04:51] <VR_> i see
[04:52] <Elazar> Yeah, this makes a whole lot of sense -- Contents: 176.3 MB, Volume: 973.8 MB, Free Space: 64.6 MB.
[04:52] <slavik> sudo "update-manager -d"
[04:52] <slavik> pretty much all it tells you to do
[04:52] <figaro> salut
[04:52] <VR_> alrighty
[04:52] <VR_> thanks slavik
[04:52] <Jimmey__> !fr
[04:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:52] <figaro> hi
[04:52] <slavik> VR_: it's how I updated mine
[04:52] <VR_> that's a cool screeny btw
[04:53] <slavik> Elazar: maybe your muvo is 1GB but the stuff over 256MB is disabled?
[04:53] <NikosGr> done! looks great
[04:53] <slavik> ty
[04:53] <VR_> slavik: sudo: update-manager -d: command not found
[04:53] <VR_> oh maybe i need to install it
[04:53] <slavik> hmm
[04:54] <slavik> probably ... heh
[04:54] <VR_> =)
[04:54] <enzo> Join Ubuntu-fr
[04:54] <enzo> darned
[04:55] <slavik> VR_: did you put update-manager -d in quotes?
[04:55] <slavik> it has to be in quotes
[04:55] <VR_> slavik: yeah
[04:55] <Elazar> slavik: Guess so...
[04:55] <slavik> good
[04:55] <VR_> its not working
[04:56] <slavik> Elazar: read up if you can unlock the hidden power!!! :D
[04:56] <slavik> hmm
[04:56] <slavik> you have update-manager installed?
[04:56] <VR_> and i had update-manager already installed
[04:56] <VR_> yup
[04:56] <slavik> sudo "update-manager -d"
[04:56] <slavik> just like that ...
[04:56] <slavik> with quotes
[04:57] <VR_> slavik: it's gksudo "update-manager -d"
[04:57] <_jason> VR_: type: which update-manager
[04:57] <VR_> _jason: it's working already
[04:57] <_jason> oh
[04:57] <NikosGr> nikos@dell:~$ find / -name eth*.conf
[04:57] <VR_> it was gksudo
[04:57] <VR_> not just sudo
[04:57] <slavik> hmm, should've been gksudo ...
[04:57] <NikosGr> iam lokking eth0.conf gile
[04:57] <slavik> yea
[04:59] <VincentMX> is there any good x86 emulator in Ubuntu's apt?
[04:59] <VR_> thanks slavik, _jason
[04:59] <Frogzoo> NikosGr: /etc/network/interfaces
[05:00] <slavik> VincentMX: are you not on x86?
[05:00] <slavik> VR_: any time ...
[05:00] <samuel_> speak italien
[05:00] <samuel_> italian
[05:00] <NikosGr> Frogzoo: /etc/network/interfaces is a conf file?
[05:00] <slavik> _jason will be here so you can bother him :D
[05:00] <slavik> !it
[05:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:00] <Frogzoo> NikosGr: aye, that it be
[05:00] <NikosGr> yeah
[05:00] <NikosGr> i though it would be called eth0.conf
[05:00] <VincentMX> slavik, yes i am, but i want to try ReactOS, and i don't feel like installing it, since it takes hours on my computer, and i won't be able to be on irc then
[05:01] <Frogzoo> NikosGr: Redhat?
[05:01] <slavik> VincentMX: read into vmware
[05:01] <slavik> !vmware
[05:01] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[05:01] <VR_> slavik: ubotu doesn't like you at all today
[05:01] <astro9040> does anyone know what i need to start compiling programs like what programs im going to need
[05:01] <slavik> he's still not happy about last night
[05:01] <Frogzoo> !build-essential
[05:01] <ubotu> well, build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[05:01] <NikosGr> Frogzoo: yeah :)
[05:02] <slavik> Frogzoo: the line about interface file, add an "arrg, matey!" at the end :D
[05:02] <Frogzoo> arrr
[05:02] <astro9040> !build-essential
[05:02] <ubotu> it has been said that build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[05:02] <NikosGr> iam getting used to ubuntru pretty qucik with your help guys!
[05:02] <mojo> hello party people.  i have had my first kernel panic.  isn't that fun?  I upgraded from breezy to dapper using the update manager (gksudo update-manager -d).  Luckily I have a amd64 install to play with on a different partition.  But thanks to macromedia I can't really just start up and using this install daily yet.  Anyone got some advice for me?   I have never had a kernel panic before.
[05:02] <slavik> now you need a parrot ... and you are all set to be a pirate :D
[05:02] <jono> hi all
[05:02] <NoUse> !xen
[05:02] <ubotu> well, xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .
[05:03] <jono> anyone running Xgl here with the ATI propreitary driver?
[05:03] <teletubbie> how do you configure lm-sensor?
[05:03] <astro9040> can anyone help
[05:03] <slavik> jono: ati driver yes, xgl no ...
[05:03] <NikosGr> umm, may i ask what tool u use to listen music(mp3)? is there soemthign similar to  media player classic?
[05:03] <slavik> jono: try the #ubuntu+1 channel and also the forums
[05:03] <Frogzoo> NikosGr: amarok
[05:03] <slavik> NikosGr: media player :P
[05:03] <Frogzoo> !amarok
[05:03] <ubotu> [amarok]  a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[05:04] <slavik> !totem
[05:04] <jono> I am having trouble getting accelleration working with xgl
[05:04] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[05:04] <slavik> wtf?
[05:04] <NikosGr> yes but amarok is for kde no?
[05:04] <slavik> ubotu, totem is a very nice media player that is installed with Ubuntu. It can be found in Applications -> Sound and Video.
[05:04] <ubotu> slavik: okay
[05:05] <slavik> NikosGr: yes
[05:05] <NikosGr> but iam using gnome
[05:05] <slavik> NikosGr: go to applications and then sound and video and just about anything there will play sound stuff
[05:05] <NikosGr> so its btter to sue totem?
[05:05] <klm> ubotu totem
[05:05] <ubotu> from memory, totem is a very nice media player that is installed with Ubuntu. It can be found in Applications -> Sound and Video.
[05:05] <NikosGr> i mean download totem
[05:05] <slavik> NikosGr: doesn't matetr really
[05:05] <slavik> totem is already installed
[05:05] <slavik> so is xmms
[05:05] <slavik> xmms is like winamp on linux
[05:06] <NikosGr> i see
[05:06] <astro9040> totem doesnt always work
[05:06] <NikosGr> totem is not installed to me
[05:06] <slavik> hmm
[05:06] <astro9040> i cant get it to play my movies or music
[05:06] <slavik> NikosGr: are you using the default install of ubuntu?
[05:06] <slavik> astro9040: do you have the codecs?
[05:06] <NikosGr> yes form the torrent i download
[05:06] <NikosGr> cd instalaltion
[05:06] <NikosGr> not dvd installation
[05:06] <slavik> k
[05:06] <astro9040> slavik, how do i get them/install them and where to
[05:06] <slavik> 'Movie Player'
[05:06] <zielony> Do you know some good free isp panels ? (something like CPanel)
[05:06] <slavik> !w32codecs
[05:06] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:07] <shamea> 
[05:07] <teletubbie> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[05:07] <slavik> zielony: hit up google for that, it is a better source than this channel
[05:07] <shamea> , Hi
[05:07] <shamea> ..
[05:07] <tdn> I have just installed my HP LaserJet 1010 In ubuntu Dapper Drake and when trying to print a text file using lpr, it says: lpr: Error - no default destination available.
[05:07] <shamea>   ?
[05:07] <slavik> shamea: please type in english
[05:07] <shamea> ..
[05:07] <shamea> sorry,,
[05:07] <NikosGr> slavik: must i download totem?
[05:07] <slavik> it's ok
[05:07] <slackern> was that chinese?
[05:07] <slavik> NikosGr: it's not required
[05:08] <slavik> dunno
[05:08] <slavik> shamea: what language do you speak?
[05:08] <alterr> hello guys: what the command to list the  packages dependency?
[05:08] <shamea> Where's Korean..? I'm Ubuntu Korean user/..
[05:08] <slavik> ahh
[05:08] <slackern> !kr
[05:08] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slackern
[05:08] <slavik> !kr
[05:08] <NikosGr> slavik: what do you mean?
[05:08] <NikosGr> i need totem to ehar music and watch videos no?
[05:08] <shamea> yeah.. I'm korean..
[05:08] <slavik> NikosGr: I use totem
[05:08] <astro9040> slavik, actually where do i install them i have a copy of the win32 codecs do i put them in /usr/lib/win32 like the other distros
[05:09] <shamea> ahh!!
[05:09] <slavik> astro9040: there is a package for those
[05:09] <Stargazers> Hi. Does GNomes sound recorder Jack?
[05:09] <hajuu> yeah.. switched over to the main ubuntu repositories.. all good
[05:09] <slavik> shamea: I don't think there is a ubuntu channel for korean users
[05:09] <slavik> shamea: let me check more
[05:09] <ColD_7> is the ubuntu 6.04 available to the web now?
[05:09] <shamea> I'll going to my Korean sever...sorrysorry..;;
[05:09] <NikosGr> slavik: yes but i dotn have it, must i apt-get install totem ?
[05:09] <astro9040> slavik, in the ubuntu repository?
[05:10] <tdn> How to set the defaul tprinter for lpr?
[05:10] <shamea> Have a nice day.!! slavik..
[05:10] <Stargazers> I have a problem to record audio :S
[05:10] <Stargazers> It just don't record it
[05:10] <sadfasdf> i have a small problem with  finding dc++ server and client progs that are in exucutable and not in source anyone got any clue i have tried goggle but dont realy no what to seach for
[05:10] <slavik> !ko
[05:10] <ubotu> For Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko
[05:10] <Stargazers> On Line In
[05:10] <slavik> ColD_7: no 6.04 ... we get 6.06 ...
[05:10] <NikosGr> slavik: ?
[05:10] <slavik> ahh, yes then
[05:11] <alterr> what the command to list the  packages dependency?
[05:11] <jono> whats the name of the propreitary ATI driver package in dapper?
[05:11] <slavik> fglrx-something ...
[05:11] <slavik> alterr: apt-cache depends packagename
[05:11] <GazzaK> erm, when you run glxgears -printfps to give an idea of fps, is the gear ani supposed to be run full screen?
[05:12] <alterr> slavik: thanks
[05:12] <Stargazers> Anyone ideas?
[05:12] <Stargazers> Why I can't record Line In
[05:12] <Stargazers> I try to record guitars in Line In
[05:12] <ColD_7> slavik, so am i able to get 6.06 on web now?
[05:12] <Stargazers> But I can't record
[05:12] <Stargazers> It just don't save anything
[05:12] <Stargazers> But I can play thru soundcard
[05:12] <Stargazers> That works fine
[05:12] <rane_> what is WINS
[05:12] <slavik> ColD_7: only beta
[05:12] <Stargazers> I can mute it or let it play
[05:13] <Stargazers> And that workd
[05:13] <Stargazers> Works
[05:13] <Stargazers> But recording - No way :(
[05:13] <Stargazers> Any ideas what it might be?
[05:14] <rane_> what is WINS?
[05:14] <slavik> !wins
[05:14] <ubotu> slavik: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:15] <slavik> http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WINS&e=14905&ei=f45PRIHPCJT2qAK1-6XJAQ
[05:15] <Jimmey__> For anyone that downloaded the background from my site, I found it on gnome-look. I feel guilty for not giving the artist that created it credit :(
[05:15] <slavik> Jimmey__: it's ok, I already dtole your render :P
[05:15] <Jimmey__> slavik, XoD
[05:16] <Jimmey__> Nice to know it's worth stealing
[05:16] <slavik> Jimmey__: better than nothing ;)
[05:16] <rane_> !wins
[05:16] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rane_
[05:17] <teletubbie> does cpu freq scaling save energy?
[05:17] <slavik> teletubbie: yes
[05:18] <slavik> because lower freq also uses lower voltage
[05:18] <VincentMX> slavik, VMware is not in Ubuntu's apt
[05:18] <VincentMX> becouse it isn't opensource
[05:18] <slavik> VincentMX: no it isn't
[05:18] <VincentMX> and the file is rpm
[05:18] <VincentMX> and alien takes hours to install it
[05:18] <slavik> vmware is not free with proper "patches" ;)
[05:19] <slavik> hmm ... there was something else that was mentioned ...
[05:19] <VincentMX> xen?
[05:19] <slavik> I think so
[05:19] <slavik> !xen
[05:19] <ubotu> hmm... xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .
[05:19] <VincentMX> hmm
[05:19] <slavik> yes, that
[05:19] <Stargazers> Anyone doesn't know about recording audio??
[05:19] <VincentMX> xen can't run lot's of os's
[05:20] <valentyn_> what exacly?
[05:20] <VincentMX> you need to compile the OS for xen
[05:20] <Frafra> hi all
[05:20] <valentyn_> hi
[05:20] <VincentMX> yo Frafra
[05:21] <Frafra> I need to edit the partition table of my ipod and I must be sure that is not mounted and not in use. How can I do that?
[05:21] <teletubbie> cpu running at 30 C :)
[05:22] <slavik> umount it ...
[05:22] <slavik> teletubbie: nice
[05:22] <Frafra> slavik: yes :) but when I write new partitions, ubuntu mount them!
[05:23] <slavik> I see ... can you umount them?
[05:24] <rane_> how do run files on terminal? what command do i use?
[05:24] <Frafra> slavik: yes, but I want that ubuntu don't touch them :) No automount included.
[05:24] <slavik> rane_: what do you mean? you want to view a file?
[05:24] <Seantater> rane_: what do you want to run?
[05:24] <rane_> i want to change some things in smb.conf
[05:24] <Seantater> rane_: then open gedit
[05:24] <slavik> Frafra: I am sure you can disable the automounter
[05:25] <rane_> where
[05:25] <Seantater> rane_: to the file you are trying to edit
[05:25] <NoUse> rane_ gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf should work
[05:25] <Frafra> slavik: yes, but I don't know how
[05:25] <slavik> neither do I :(
[05:25] <slavik> !automount
[05:25] <ubotu> slavik: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:25] <slavik> !amount
[05:25] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[05:25] <slavik> hmm, sorry :(
[05:25] <Frafra> ok :(
[05:26] <Frafra> I think that I must edit fstab...
[05:26] <fastwings> if i want install the win coedc so i can play moviews and staff
[05:26] <Gryzo1> The Synaptic version in 6.06 has no "showdisabledsoftwaresources", any ideas on how to perform this very same task?
[05:26] <fastwings> what i need do
[05:26] <WolfmanK> I'm installing dapper but the live cd forces a gnome 640x 480 resolution on my system with...   any way to change that?
[05:26] <slavik> !w32codecs
[05:26] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:26] <slavik> !tell Gryzo1 -about repos
[05:27] <Elazar> Trying to install the JRE 1.5 using the directions here ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249 ... up to the point where I'm running this command ... sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common ... and getting this error ... E: Couldn't find package java-package ... suggestions?
[05:27] <sml> I cant run update-manager .. this message appears .. The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[05:27] <Elazar> I've enabled universe and multiverse repos in Synaptic.
[05:27] <Frafra> if I edit fstab, do I have to restart pc? [excuseme for the bad english] 
[05:27] <NikosGr> to listen an mp3 i must totem filename.mp3 ?
[05:28] <Gryzo1> slavik: thanks, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto says one thing and the screen shows a different one. There's no such checkbox in my synaptic.
[05:28] <NoUse> !info java-package
[05:28] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[05:28] <Gryzo1> !tell Gryzo1 -about repos
[05:28] <sml> usually it asks for the root password .. but nothing happens anymore :(
[05:28] <NikosGr> Gryzo1: me too
[05:28] <senjin> anyone know a dc++ server prog that dont have to bee compiled?
[05:28] <NikosGr> i had the smae problem today Gryzo1
[05:28] <NoUse> Elazar have you refreshed your sources since you've updated your repos?
[05:28] <slavik> Gryzo1: uncomment the proper lines with a text editor
[05:28] <farruinn> Frafra: Depends on the changes you made I guess
[05:28] <Gryzo1> NikosGr: and what did you do ? hand edit?
[05:29] <NikosGr> i asked warbo and he told me
[05:29] <NikosGr> wait iam gonan paste to youu the lien i have added
[05:29] <Frafra> farruinn: I've put 3 lines at the end like this: /dev/sdb1       /media/cdrom2   auto    noauto          0       0
[05:29] <Gryzo1> NikosGr: thanks.
[05:29] <sml> has anyone else had similar issues with update-manager?
[05:30] <NikosGr> no problem
[05:30] <farruinn> Frafra: I don't think you should have to reboot then
[05:30] <NikosGr> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:30] <NikosGr> here
[05:30] <slavik> sml: use gksudo instead of sudo
[05:30] <Gryzo1> NikosGr: in which file did you add this?
[05:30] <Elazar> NoUse: If you mean doing sudo apt-get update then yes.
[05:30] <slavik> Gryzo1: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:30] <NikosGr> you have 2 ways
[05:30] <NoUse> Elazar I would double check your repos and make sure multiverse isn't commented out
[05:31] <NikosGr> you can deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:31] <sml> slavik .. same message ... The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[05:31] <Gryzo1> NikosGr: no prob, i've used vi ;)
[05:31] <NikosGr> ot uou can do it via synaptic
[05:31] <slavik> gksudi update-manager
[05:31] <NikosGr> settings->add->custom an then add this line
[05:31] <slavik> gksudo*
[05:31] <NikosGr> cat deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:32] <Elazar> Odd... it was. :\ I used Synaptic to enable it. Not sure why it didn't take.
[05:32] <NikosGr> damn sorry
[05:32] <NikosGr> echo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:32] <Gryzo1> NikosGr:  :) thanks
[05:32] <slavik> sml: you have to be the user that was created when ubuntu was installed
[05:32] <NikosGr> Gryzo1: glad to be of a help Gryzo1
[05:32] <Oli> HIya, just apt-get'ed mysql server, trying to start it up, without look evenwith the start script or just mysqld_safe it starts and instantly shutsdown...no interessting loogs, next step to try? Some other friend has exact the same issue - any hints?
[05:32] <sml> salvik .. yes .. result .. Failed to run update-manager
[05:32] <sml> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[05:32] <fastwings> armm will win32codec will run video of mp4?
[05:32] <fastwings> the new encoding
[05:32] <sml> slavik ... yes I was ... but i did add a new user after ? has that done something?
[05:33] <sml> how do i remove a user?
[05:33] <korniche> hi all
[05:33] <korniche> i'm having a little problem here ,
[05:33] <korniche> is there anyone to help me ?
[05:33] <Gryzo1> NikosGr: Now I need to remember why I wanted to add this :D
[05:34] <NoUse> !ask
[05:34] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[05:34] <korniche> i just finished installing Ubuntu
[05:34] <NikosGr> Gryzo1: lol
[05:34] <korniche> i'm newbie ..
[05:34] <astro9040> anyone know anything about vservers or xen
[05:35] <_jason> !ask =~ s/outputs/and outputs/
[05:35] <ubotu> _jason: OK
[05:35] <korniche> i've an SCSI hard disk
[05:35] <NikosGr> because you need your sytem to know where to find new packages
[05:35] <korniche> how can i mount it to read datas inside ?
[05:35] <NikosGr> i wonder why be default isn like this
[05:35] <_jason> !ask =~ s/outputs/output/
[05:35] <ubotu> _jason: OK
[05:35] <slavik> korniche: do you know the file system on the drive?
[05:36] <mwe> !ask =~ s/,and/and/
[05:36] <ubotu> mwe: that doesn't contain ',and'
[05:36] <sml> how do you delete a user from the system?
[05:36] <mwe> !ask =~ s/, and/ and/
[05:36] <ubotu> OK, mwe
[05:36] <korniche> slavik,  i don't think so ..
[05:36] <slavik> sml: using passwd ...
[05:37] <slavik> korniche: did Windows format the scsi drive?
[05:37] <korniche> slavik,  , i think that i just need to know how to mount a hard disk
[05:37] <NoUse> sml you can use the users and passwords dialgo in system -> administration
[05:37] <sml> NoUse .. of course .. ta :)
[05:37] <slavik> korniche: for that, we need to know the file system that the drive was formatted with.
[05:37] <korniche> slavik, , i tryed with windows , i saw it as a hard disk , but i can't get inside , coz it's an Unix partition ..
[05:37] <slavik> korniche: this is so that the system knows how to access it and stuff
[05:37] <slavik> korniche: that is closer
[05:37] <sml> slavik .. man passwd looks easy also :)
[05:38] <slavik> sml: :P
[05:38] <slavik> korniche: which unix formatted the drive?
[05:38] <korniche> ahh slavik  , u're talking about witch partition ? if it's NTFS or FAT or something else ?
[05:38] <slavik> what OSmade the partition?
[05:38] <slavik> yes
[05:38] <slavik> that is called the file system though
[05:38] <korniche> ok .. this hard disk was on a server with Unix
[05:38] <NikosGr> can ubuntu write to ntfs volumes as well as it read them?
[05:39] <axisme> no
[05:39] <slavik> ntfs, fat32, ext3 ... are file systems :)
[05:39] <mwe> NikosGr: not safely
[05:39] <slavik> NikosGr: what mwe said
[05:39] <patrick_king> i have a file called   realsoft3d-4.5-linux-i386.sh  on my desktop how do i install it
[05:39] <korniche> ok slavik  :p
[05:39] <slavik> korniche: so, do you know the file system?
[05:39] <NikosGr> iam willing to try it
[05:39] <korniche> just a second , i'll check it
[05:40] <slavik> patrick_king: in terminal 'sudo sh filename.sh'
[05:40] <axisme> then you need to recompile your kernel
[05:40] <mwe> NikosGr: it will probalby break
[05:40] <NikosGr> i will now create  a test file with vi and i will try to write it to windows xo d:\ drive
[05:40] <konstandinosk> hi i got disconnected so if anyone replied please let me know
[05:40] <slavik> NikosGr: before you do that
[05:40] <konstandinosk> milas ellinika?
[05:40] <teletubbie> how do you install spell check for xchat?
[05:40] <slavik> writing that single file can mess up the entire thing ... so back up first
[05:40] <NikosGr> but i dont want my xp to crush
[05:41] <NoUse> NikosGr then I would recommend against it
[05:41] <korniche> hey slavik  , it's telling that it's not formated , but i just took it off from the server and it was working and there's still the datas , and i even can boot on it too
[05:41] <Elazar> NoUse: OK, uncommented the multiverse lines, did an update (and actually got updates this time), did an upgrade, and then tried the same command again and got the same error.
[05:41] <dg_w> Are ther rumurs right that Ubuntu are thinking of using the click and run warehouse  ..... plese tell me no :(
[05:41] <korniche> but , here it's telling that it's not formated with ubuntu
[05:41] <slavik> NikosGr: I would suggest using winxp and burning important data to a CD first
[05:41] <NikosGr> umm ok i will use it in an ntfs partitoin i dotn have crucial data on
[05:41] <slavik> korniche: can you get the file system type? we need it for mount
[05:42] <axisme> i think it can write to fat32 safely
[05:42] <NikosGr> pray for me folks! :)
[05:42] <slavik> NikosGr: then feel free to write and stuff
[05:43] <korniche> slavik, , how can i do it ? just for informations , when i saw it on windows with Partition magic 8.0 , it said that it's a Unix partition
[05:43] <konstandinosk> does anyone know how to configure xserver-xorg for a radeon x550?
[05:43] <slavik> hmm, that's not enough info
[05:43] <konstandinosk> default ati drivers dont work
[05:43] <slavik> !ati
[05:43] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:43] <konstandinosk> thanks slackern
[05:43] <konstandinosk> slavik even
[05:43] <slavik> use the BinaryDriverHowTo ...
[05:43] <visik7> hi
[05:43] <slavik> korniche: hold on
[05:43] <NoUse> NikosGr https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite
[05:44] <korniche> ok
[05:44] <Seantater> visik7: helllo
[05:44] <visik7> anyone know how can I use target DROP cited in man iptables with ubuntu ?
[05:44] <overrider> does postfix have already pop3 server?
[05:44] <visik7> overrider: no
[05:44] <slavik> korniche: what Unix system was it?
[05:45] <overrider> visik7, ah i thought so. can you recommend a good one?
[05:45] <slavik> korniche: go to System -> Administration -> Disks ... see if it gets listed there
[05:45] <korniche> yeah , it's listed there
[05:45] <visik7> overrider: pop server or a mail server that includes smtp and pop3 ?
[05:45] <korniche> but it's telling that it's not formated
[05:45] <slavik> hmm
[05:45] <korniche> slavik korniche: what Unix system was it? ==> i don't know exactelly , it's not mine
[05:45] <overrider> visik7, sorry. a popserver i can use in conjunction with postfix
[05:46] <NoUse> korniche are you sure there is data on the drive?
[05:46] <slavik> korniche: k, what is it in /dev ?
[05:46] <teletubbie> how do I enable spell checking?
[05:46] <XamDM> is the package xserver-xorg in dapper broken ??
[05:46] <visik7> overrider: depend on the method u use to store accounts
[05:46] <slavik> NoUse: can mount detect the file system automatically?
[05:46] <Jimmey__> !dapper
[05:46] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[05:46] <korniche> NoUse,  , yeah i'm sure !
[05:46] <NoUse> slavik sometimes
[05:46] <slavik> XamDM: don't think so
[05:46] <GazzaK> I used glxgears to test if my ati drivers were working okay, but I have noticed that if the size of the window the gears are displayed in changes, the fps rate changes, is there a standard window size to use this to compare performance with?
[05:46] <slavik> NoUse: I want him to do that
[05:46] <XamDM> slackern, hm upgrade failed
[05:47] <slavik> GazzaK: glxgears is not a good benchmark tool
[05:47] <XamDM> slackern,  /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg_7.0.0-0ubuntu31_i386.deb
[05:47] <XamDM> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:47] <Jimmey__> slavik, what is
[05:47] <slavik> Jimmey__: 3dmark2001se?
[05:47] <teletubbie> how do I enable spell checking?
[05:47] <NoUse> XamDM the deb you have might be corrupt, try deleting it and redownloading
[05:47] <Elazar> NoUse: Uncommented multiverse lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, updated, upgraded, ran sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common, and I'm still getting E: Couldn't find package java-package.
[05:47] <korniche> yeah , it's /dev/sda
[05:47] <NoUse> Elazar pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:47] <slavik> korniche: sda ... what? there should be a number after it
[05:47] <XamDM> NoUse, didn't work
[05:48] <korniche> Nope
[05:48] <korniche> just sda
[05:48] <slavik> k
[05:48] <korniche> ah wait , sda4
[05:48] <korniche> sorry
[05:48] <slavik> korniche: try 'sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/scsidrive'
[05:48] <Beawolfe> Can anyone tell me how to get firefox to update to its newest version
[05:48] <slavik> ok, the instead of sda, use sda4 in that line
[05:49] <NikosGr> exmm guys
[05:49] <slavik> Beawolfe: breezy is not getting forefox 1.5
[05:49] <korniche> slavik korniche: try 'sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/scsidrive' ==< where ?
[05:49] <Elazar> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12929
[05:49] <thoreauputic> Elazar: my guess is you uncommented the backports multiverse but didn't add normal multiverse lines
[05:49] <NoUse> XamDM I'm getting the same error now, its probably broken
[05:49] <waylandbill> is there a script that makes ssh public/private key pair and uploads to a server?
[05:49] <NikosGr> what si the comamnds that will show mw all mounted volumes?
[05:49] <slavik> korniche: in terminal (command line)
[05:49] <Elazar> thoreauputic: D'oh! You're probably right about that. :P
[05:49] <NikosGr> and their mountpoints?
[05:49] <slavik> NikosGr: mount
[05:49] <XamDM> NoUse, ok, thx
[05:49] <Beawolfe> Do you mean its not available for Breezy?
[05:49] <NikosGr> slavik: that simpel huh? :)
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Elazar: just add the word multiverse on each universe line
[05:50] <slavik> Beawolfe: correct, although you can still install it
[05:50] <NikosGr> i though cat /etc/fstab
[05:50] <GazzaK> slavik, thanks for that, will keep that in mind.
[05:50] <slavik> !tell Beawolfe about firefox
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Elazar: and yes, looks like that's the problem
[05:50] <patrick_king> where can i get  wormux
[05:50] <slavik> !ff
[05:50] <ubotu> slavik: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:50] <patrick_king> as theversion that i got with my linux mag int working
[05:50] <NoUse> Elazar if you do apt-cache search java-package does it show up?
[05:50] <slavik> NikosGr: what did you expect? this isn't windows :P
[05:51] <Elazar> NoUse: Command runs, but no output.
[05:51] <thoreauputic> NoUse: it won't until he fixes the list and runs apt-get update
[05:51] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:51] <NikosGr> ok folks i knwo try to!
[05:51] <korniche> slavik,  , it's first time that i use ubuntu , i used mandrake before , where can i find the remote ?
[05:51] <NikosGr> nikos@dell:~$ cp korios.txt /dev/hdb3
[05:51] <korniche> the terminal ?
[05:51] <Jimmey__> slavik, what do you use to model
[05:51] <NikosGr> this si th big moment we all awaiting for!
[05:51] <NoUse> Elazar pastebin the output of apt-get update
[05:51] <slavik> used 3ds max for that one
[05:51] <slavik> korniche: remote?
[05:51] <Jimmey__> You use others?
[05:52] <NikosGr> cp: cannot create regular file `/dev/hdb3': Permission denied
[05:52] <slavik> I used milkshape3d ...
[05:52] <NikosGr> damn! why?
[05:52] <slavik> why?
[05:52] <korniche> slavik korniche: in terminal (command line) ==< how can i open it ?
[05:52] <NikosGr> must i define a filename?
[05:52] <Jimmey__> slavik, no Blender?
[05:52] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: /dev/hdb3 is a device - what are you trying to do?
[05:52] <slavik> korniche: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[05:52] <Elazar> NoUse, thoreauputic: Took thoreauputic's suggestion and it seems to be working now. Thanks to both of you.
[05:52] <BearKnuckle> NikosGr: Why do you want to create a file there?
[05:52] <slavik> Jimmey__: have it but haven't learned it
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Elazar: :)
[05:53] <patrick_king> anyone
[05:53] <Jimmey__> slavik, I see..
[05:53] <VincentMX> /join #reactos
[05:53] <slavik> when I started modeling blender wasn't popular yet ...
[05:53] <VincentMX> /join #freenode
[05:53] <VincentMX> ?
[05:53] <NikosGr> i must then try to
[05:53] <NikosGr> cp korios.txt /dev/hdb3
[05:53] <VincentMX> why doesn't xchat join?
[05:53] <NikosGr> cp korios.txt /dev/hdb3/korios.txt
[05:53] <thoreauputic> VincentMX: leading space?
[05:53] <NikosGr> ?
[05:53] <NikosGr> give a filename
[05:53] <VincentMX> thoreauputic, no
[05:53] <korniche> slavik,  , it's telling " mount: vous devez spcifier le type de systme de fichiers
[05:53] <korniche>  "
[05:53] <NikosGr> i just wantes to palce a file form my home folder to a ntfs partition
[05:53] <slavik> korniche: can you translate that to english please?
[05:53] <korniche> it mean => u need to specify the type of system files
[05:54] <DBO> NikosGr, you cant write to NTFS is ubuntu
[05:54] <ompaul> VincentMX, so why the spam?
[05:54] <DBO> in*
[05:54] <slavik> korniche: right... this is why we need to know the system type
[05:54] <Gryzo1> Did anyone have success installing Opera 9 on 6.06 ?
[05:54] <VincentMX> ompaul, i don't spam, i just try to join a f*cking channel
[05:54] <NikosGr> nikos@dell:~$ cp korios.txt /dev/hdb3/korios.txt
[05:54] <NikosGr> cp: accessing `/dev/hdb3/korios.txt': Not a directory
[05:54] <Jimmey__> !dapper
[05:54] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[05:54] <BearKnuckle> There is hardly a good write-support for ntfs-filesystems yet, NikosGr
[05:54] <Jimmey__> XoD
[05:54] <NoUse> korniche what does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' output?
[05:54] <VincentMX> i'll use xchat's gui channel thing
[05:54] <ompaul> VincentMX, (A) we don't do *language and (B) you must have a leading space
[05:54] <korniche> ok , slavik  , when i was on windows , it said that it's a UNIX partition and another name
[05:55] <korniche> i forgot , if u tell me 2 or 3 types of partitions
[05:55] <runelind> does xinerama need to have the same resolution on both displays?
[05:55] <ompaul> VincentMX, click on the channels
[05:55] <korniche> i'll remember it
[05:55] <slavik> ext3
[05:55] <BearKnuckle> NikosGr: You cannot write directly to a device. You must mount the harddisk and then write to the mounted filestructure.
[05:55] <slavik> reiserfs
[05:55] <slavik> xfs
[05:55] <slavik> ufs
[05:55] <BearKnuckle> NikosGr: Anyway you cannot write on ntfs-disks at the moment.
[05:55] <DBO> NikosGr, also, you cannot write to NTFS in ubuntu
[05:55] <korniche> slavik,  , nope
[05:55] <NikosGr> i see
[05:55] <korniche> are they Unix partitions ?
[05:56] <NoUse> korniche slavik Windows isn't aware of Unix partitions, it just calls Unix partions "Unknown" or "Corrupt"
[05:56] <Jimmey__> BearKnuckle, or he could open up his hard drive and start writing stuff with a magnet
[05:56] <NikosGr> and all of that caosue microsuck keeps ntfs code locked
[05:56] <Jimmey__> XoD
[05:56] <slavik> NoUse: I realize that
[05:56] <ompaul> thoreauputic, :-)
[05:56] <slavik> korniche: check your messages
[05:56] <slavik> any of those?
[05:56] <NoUse> korniche did you run the fdisk command I sent you?
[05:56] <BearKnuckle> You can use the captive-driver to write to ntfs-filesystems, but you have to own a windows-license since this driver is using windows-drivers directly.
[05:56] <korniche> NoUse , it was the partition magic that told that
[05:56] <Gryzo1> Fedora Core 5 had a "tab" in the screen settings to enable Dual Head, is there anything like that in Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:56] <thoreauputic> !captive
[05:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[05:57] <BearKnuckle> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[05:57] <thoreauputic> BearKnuckle: see ubotu above
[05:57] <korniche> slavik,  , nope , noone of those
[05:57] <jono> anyone getting problems with a recent package upgrade with xserver-xorg ?
[05:57] <BearKnuckle> Yes, I saw to late, didn't know this is not usable in ubuntu.
[05:57] <korniche> how can i know the system file on linux then ?
[05:57] <jono> I am getting: /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/config: line 973: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[05:57] <XamDM> korniche, me to
[05:57] <BearKnuckle> jono: Me too!
[05:58] <slavik> it's ext3 if you don't know which one it is
[05:58] <NoUse> korniche did you run the fdisk command I sent you?
[05:58] <visik7> why iptables hasn't lib/iptables/libipt_ROUTE.so while debian has ? if debian has it I don't think it's a porting problem to other arch
[05:58] <jono> BearKnuckle: ahhh, I figured it was just me
[05:58] <visik7> it's stupid to disable this module
[05:58] <BearKnuckle> jono: there is a rumor about a fix, but no explicit infos yet. I think we must wait.
[05:58] <korniche> NoUse korniche what does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' output? ==> this ?
[05:58] <NoUse> korniche yes
[05:58] <korniche> yeah i did now
[05:58] <BearKnuckle> jono: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166410
[05:58] <korniche> i past it here ??
[05:59] <NoUse> korniche no pastebin it
[05:59] <konstandinosk> slavik: "couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx" - now what? tutorial doesn't say what to do in that situation
[05:59] <korniche> how ?
[05:59] <slavik> korniche: no, paste tp pastebin
[05:59] <NoUse> !tell korniche about pastebin
[05:59] <Hattori> i'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/683195
[05:59] <slavik> konstandinosk: hmmm
[05:59] <mlehrer> konstandinosk: look at the package named linux-restricted-modules
[05:59] <slavik> !ati
[05:59] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:00] <BearKnuckle> Oh my, a new apt-get dist-upgrade problem, the last upgrade wasn't tested intensivly enough, eh?
[06:00] <bembo> what flowchart program would you recommend (except dia)?
[06:00] <bembo> 
[06:01] <NoUse> bembo there a program called kivio
[06:01] <slavik> Draw?
[06:01] <Hattori> i'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/683195
[06:01] <slavik> OOo2 Draw
[06:01] <korniche> slavik,  , nouse , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12931
[06:01] <bembo> NoUse, thanx i will  try it
[06:02] <korniche> NoUse,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12931
[06:02] <DaneeBoy> I have a question... I'm about to format and go back to Breezy from Dapper. I want to make a seperate home partition. I know how to tell the partitioner to mount a partition at /home. Does ubuntu automaticalyl regonize that home is on a seperate partition?
[06:02] <jono> BearKnuckle: ok, I had a chat with a dev and he is onto it
[06:02] <konstandinosk> !linux-restricted-modules
[06:02] <ubotu> konstandinosk: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:02] <NoUse> korniche that means there is no partition on that disk
[06:02] <DaneeBoy> I know.. I'm going to format and create the parition
[06:03] <korniche> oh my god
[06:03] <Jimmey__> Guys, try /msg ubotu moo
[06:03] <slavik> !moo
[06:03] <ubotu> moo is, like, totally, moo
[06:03] <korniche> NoUse,  mean that there's no data then !!
[06:03] <NoUse> korniche doesn't look like it
[06:03] <korniche> ok
[06:03] <DaneeBoy> Basically i'm figuring on keeping a seperate partition for Dapper & Breezy and giving them each 10 GB but keeping my home parition seperate
[06:03] <korniche> BrB
[06:04] <korniche> i'll reboot on the SCSI hard disk
[06:04] <korniche> to check !!
[06:04] <korniche> see ya , and thx for ur help !!
[06:04] <Jimmey__> DaneeBoy, smart idea :S I should've thought of that
[06:04] <slavik> Jimmey__: and waste 10gb? it can be used for better purposes ;)
[06:04] <Hattori> i'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/683195
[06:04] <Jimmey__> ubotu, tell slavik about moo
[06:05] <DaneeBoy> Jimmey_: I read it on the forums but cannot find the link that explaned how to make ubuntu mount the /home parition on boot
[06:05] <Jimmey__> Ask slavik, he knows everything
[06:05] <slavik> Hattori Hanzo ... you are missing MySQL ...
[06:05] <DaneeBoy> Really? ^.^?
[06:05] <Jimmey__> I'm betting slavik knows
[06:06] <Hattori> slavik, the package got upgraded
[06:06] <NikosGr> lets suppose we could in fact write to ntfs volumes
[06:06] <Hattori> probably..
[06:06] <slavik> Jimmey__: if I knew half of what you think I know ... you would welcome your new knowledgeable overlord :D
[06:06] <NikosGr> is this correct?
[06:06] <NikosGr> nikos@dell:~$ cp korios.txt /dev/hdb3/korios.txt
[06:06] <NikosGr> cp: accessing `/dev/hdb3/korios.txt': Not a directory
[06:06] <Jimmey__> ( He's been here, helping people, non-stop, for hours )
[06:06] <jono> BearKnuckle: ok a fix has been uploaded, just wait a while until it is resolved
[06:06] <slavik> Hattori: re-install it
[06:06] <NikosGr> sorry i meant this: cp korios.txt /dev/hdb3/
[06:06] <DaneeBoy> then he is a generous man! :)
[06:06] <slavik> I am about to leave
[06:06] <farruinn> My iPod isn't being mounted automatically anymore. This happen to anyone else?
[06:06] <NikosGr> and the hdd is mounted
[06:06] <slavik> school work ... :(
[06:07] <NikosGr> no no
[06:07] <Jimmey__> slavik, how old're you?
[06:07] <NikosGr> i must used a mount point sorry
[06:07] <slavik> 20
[06:07] <Jimmey__> Good
[06:07] <slavik> going to be 21 soon :D
[06:07] <Hattori> what packages exactly?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: you don't copy to a device - you copy to the mount point of the device
[06:07] <slavik> going to get wasted and such
[06:07] <slavik> hopefully
[06:07] <Jimmey__> When you are: Happy birthday
[06:07] <slavik> in a month
[06:07] <slavik> Jimmey__: I prefer a million dollars :P
[06:07] <BearKnuckle> jono: thx for the info!
[06:08] <kracker> question: i am running firefox but don't have java recognized to be used in the browser but ... i have a manualy installed the java runtime engine (tested and working :)
[06:08] <slavik> if I had a million res nodes ... I would buy you a house ...
[06:08] <kracker> how can i connect the two parts to get java running in mozilla
[06:08] <userone> this is an openoffice Draw problem: does anyone know how to stop 'connectors' from snapping to the centre of boxes?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> !tell kracker  about java
[06:08] <slavik> kracker: did you isntall java from sun's web site? I followed their guide and it worked (involved making a symlink)
[06:08] <kracker> yes
[06:09] <kracker> slavik, yes, i used it to run ghantt charts :)
[06:09] <slavik> follow their mozilla guide ...
[06:09] <kracker> hmmm, ok, know of a link?
[06:10] <NikosGr> how does a mount point is any different that the device?
[06:11] <slavik> kracker: no ... just go to java.com and then follow signs to manual install
[06:11] <slavik> NikosGr: what is the difference between C:\ and the actual drive?
[06:11] <starzinger> NikosGr: The device is the hardware, the mountpoint is just where you want to access your data from
[06:11] <DBO> NikosGr, what is your question, its not very clear?
[06:11] <Jimmey__> !gr
[06:11] <ubotu> hmm... gr is #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia ellhnes xrhstes
[06:11] <starzinger> You can mount the same device in different mountpoints
[06:11] <userone> any help with the Draw problem?
[06:11] <kracker> slavik, nods ok
[06:12] <DBO> starzinger, not at the same time...
[06:12] <slavik> userone: dunno ... why wouldn't you want it to snap to center
[06:12] <farruinn> Anyone knows what causes an iPod to mount automatically? Mine isn't getting mounted anymore.
[06:12] <slavik> brb, need to check if hot water is back
[06:12] <starzinger> DBO: You can mount the same harddrive in different mountpoints
[06:12] <NikosGr> Stavlik yes i didn think of it this way..yeah...c:\ is windows mount point as well
[06:12] <slavik> farruinn: I would search the forums...
[06:12] <slavik> :)
[06:12] <NikosGr> but in linux we can choose where we want our devices mounted
[06:13] <NikosGr> while in windows we cant
[06:13] <slavik> you can in windows, too
[06:13] <DBO> if you know where to look =)
[06:13] <slavik> you can have your D: drive as a folder ...
[06:13] <NikosGr> hehe
[06:13] <DBO> but I think C: is pretty well hardcoded in
[06:13] <slavik> DBO: so is /
[06:13] <slavik> :P
[06:13] <userone> slavik: I want 3 arrows going into one side of the box. They are from different functions (in a flowchart) so I need each arrowhead to be seperate. (Same for all sides of the box)
[06:13] <NikosGr> you mean that in instalaltion time i could be choose to install win to d:\
[06:13] <starzinger> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[06:13] <farruinn> slavik: Thanks - I just realized that it might be caused by the new kernel I installed last night
[06:13] <starzinger> /dev/hda1 on /mnt/temp type ext3 (rw)
[06:13] <DBO> slavik, point
[06:13] <slavik> userone: I see, but I dunno the answer ...
[06:14] <slavik> farruinn: makes sense
[06:14] <slavik> NikosGr: no
[06:14] <userone> slavik: any idea where I could look? I went to the Openoffice.org site and it directed me here!
[06:14] <slavik> same as you can't instal linux into other places besides /
[06:14] <BearKnuckle> nikosgr: Windows definetly wants itself installed on the primary harddisk in the primary partition, maybe you can overcome this, but it's not recommended I think!
[06:14] <slavik> userone: did you try the openoffice forums?
[06:15] <slavik> and what BearKnuckle said
[06:15] <NikosGr> BearKnuckle: yeah xp is very greedy
[06:15] <userone> slavik: do you have a link?
[06:15] <_jason> userone: there is also #openoffice.org
[06:15] <slavik> and in *nix, you  can have your root partition half way across the world ...
[06:15] <slavik> userone: no ... it's in their support page
[06:16] <slavik> _jason: NM > *
[06:16] <slavik> :D
[06:16] <slavik> oh, and beagle :D
[06:16] <BearKnuckle> slavik: What a cool idea, I set up a system using one folder on every continent... that's what would be "ubuntu". :D
[06:16] <userone> _jason: slavik: thanks..let me try that...
[06:16] <slavik> BearKnuckle: yup ... windows can't touch that
[06:16] <slavik> :P
[06:18] <userone> _jason: I just checked the server list, #openoffice.org is not listed?
[06:18] <slavik> heh
[06:18] <tombs> hi all
[06:18] <_jason> userone: I'm in it right now
[06:18] <BearKnuckle> userone: Not in the list does not mean it's not there!
[06:18] <BearKnuckle> You can hide channels.
[06:18] <userone> _jason: ok..so silly question..how do I connect to it!? :-)
[06:19] <slavik> holy crap, man ... beagle is so powerful it is scary
[06:19] <_jason> userone: /join #openoffice.org
[06:19] <slavik> _jason: the new network status icon is teh crap IMO
[06:19] <_jason> slavik: yeah, I don't like it much either
[06:20] <slavik> and old one knew the diff between wired and wireless
[06:21] <BockBilbo> hello
[06:22] <slavik> hi
[06:22] <sys8794> is there a way to use the live cd on a win machine and access the win dirs to alter files )temp,temp internet. etc) to solve win issues ?
[06:22] <NoUse> sys8794 you can only alter it if it's not an NTFS drive
[06:23] <LabThug> I have a laptop running ubuntu (Dapper).  How do I get my X session to display through the connected projector?
[06:23] <sys8794> so if ntfs then there is no way to access data to alter it?  I do repairs on some win boxes and thought when they wouldnt boot that I could live in like that?
[06:23] <LabThug> I can get the projector to pickup tty 1-6, but it never sees what's on tty7
[06:23] <NoUse> LabThug thats usually done through the Fn+something on laptops
[06:23] <Hattori> i'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/683195
[06:24] <LabThug> NoUse: the projector can see the screen during the bootup.  As soon as X starts, the projector no longer recieves information
[06:24] <LabThug> because of this, Fn isn't the issue :-)
[06:24] <BockBilbo> i have a problem when trying to halt the system; the system instead of halt, reboots
[06:24] <NoUse> LabThug I wouldn't be so sure
[06:24] <BockBilbo> any idea  of why this can be?
[06:24] <NoUse> LabThug I've seen the same thing happen, Fn+F7 (for me) fixed it
[06:25] <LabThug> BockBilbo: try `shutdown -h`
[06:25] <NoUse> Hattori what program are you trying to run?
[06:25] <LabThug> NoUse: which type of laptop?  Mine is a Dell Latitude
[06:25] <NoUse> I have a Thinkpad
[06:25] <cpl-tnt900> is there's a guide to all those linux command in the terminal !?
[06:25] <BockBilbo> lets see La_PaRCa
[06:25] <slavik> cpl-tnt900: man
[06:25] <BockBilbo> i meant LabThug
[06:26] <slavik> man = manual
[06:26] <NikosGr>                            SO YOUA RE SAYING THAT I CAN HAVE A DEVICE IN AFRICA and mount here on my pc in thessaloniki, greece`1?
[06:26] <slavik> so 'man print' will give you the manual page on 'print'
[06:26] <slavik> NikosGr: yes
[06:26] <slavik> NikosGr: if there is a network connection
[06:26] <jobezone> cpl-tnt900: http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[06:26] <BearKnuckle> sys8794: I think Knoppix has captive-support, but ubuntu has not, at least I know there were knoppix-releases which had ntfs-write-support.
[06:26] <slavik> but performance is going to be slow
[06:27] <NikosGr> slavik: for example could you try now to mount my root partition upon your hard drive?
[06:28] <LabThug> NoUse: I did try pressing Fn+F8 a bunch of times.  The closest I could get was nada
[06:28] <NoUse> LabThug google around
[06:28] <sys8794> bearknuckle couldnt I create a mnt point to the win dir and access it through that? nm your right that would only give me read optition not write also
[06:28] <sys8794> do you think that the 4.0 knop had it?
[06:29] <NikosGr> ima tryting to install vidalia and it is dependand on
[06:29] <NikosGr> Make sure you have Qt 4.1 and Tor 0.1.1.13 or later installed.
[06:29] <LabThug> NoUse: I am :-D
[06:29] <slavik> NikosGr: you can only try ... I am not giving out access to my 'video' to anyone ... yet
[06:29] <NikosGr> how do i know if at least i ahve Qt 4.1 installed?
[06:29] <slavik> NikosGr: through synaptic
[06:29] <vincent__> Hi all
[06:29] <sys8794> I have 3.1 to 4.0 so one of them should. do you know if ubuntu is ever going to incorp ntfs r/w function within the live envioroment?
[06:29] <NikosGr> slavik i can give you access if you want
[06:29] <slavik> nah
[06:29] <cpl-tnt900> jobezone 10x
[06:30] <jobezone> sys8794: I think the next knoppix will be able to write to ntfs by default, but it isn't released yet. It was shown at Cebit, I think. I know this, because I wanted to do what you want now a week ago, when a winXP system of mine got screwed.
[06:30] <NikosGr> slavik by console with apt-get hwo do i check if i ahve a apckage installed?
[06:30] <slavik> NikosGr: apt-cache I think
[06:30] <slavik> apt-get and apt-cache
[06:30] <slavik> man them :P
[06:31] <NikosGr> apt-cache search Qt ?
[06:31] <jobezone> cpl-tnt900: Also have a look at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com . I'm sure there are good command line (shell) tutorials there.
[06:31] <sys8794> jobezone lol I been wanting to do this for bout a month now...just today I have started this path
[06:31] <BockBilbo> LabThug, doesnt work
[06:31] <BockBilbo> i bet it is something related with the bios..
[06:31] <vincent__> I need help with external harddrive (again)
[06:31] <vincent__> my dmesg is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12933
[06:31] <NikosGr> it scrolled
[06:31] <sys8794> does anyone know if ubuntu will every incorp ntfs r/w func within its live cd?
[06:32] <vincent__> ntfs rw ?? lol !
[06:32] <sys8794> ntfs read/write
[06:32] <jobezone> sys8794: I eventually caved in, backed up all my stuff (with a LiveCD), reinstalled XP, and sweared I would never install it in my computer (it was a friend's).
[06:32] <sys8794> from the live cd lol
[06:32] <thoreauputic> !ntfs
[06:32] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:32] <sys8794> jobezone haha I know the feeling
[06:32] <vincent__> hh.. try kaptive.. but make backups before !
[06:33] <NikosGr> when i issue a search with synaptic does it search locally on my hdd for the package or only in the remote repository?
[06:33] <thoreauputic> bah the factoid doesn't mention that rw to ntfs is not supported
[06:33] <jobezone> sys8794: there is something called captive-ntfs, but I've never tried it.
[06:33] <vincent__> on repos that you set up in synaptic
[06:33] <cahill_john> hi ppl
[06:33] <Caminomaster> hello people
[06:33] <sys8794> vincent__ you are saying that with kaptive I can run live cd and alter (r/w ntfs files)?
[06:34] <vincent__> no, not on live CD..
[06:34] <Caminomaster> does dapper support write access on NTFS??
[06:34] <axisme> sys8794, you cant write to ntfs
[06:34] <alek> hi
[06:34] <sys8794> jobezone cool I will look into it
[06:34] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: it searches the list of available packages - the list is local, on your hard drive
[06:34] <axisme> you cant do it even if you install it
[06:34] <vincent__> but kaptive (or captive) allows ntfs rw.. but it is really hazardous..
[06:34] <NoUse> Caminomaster no
[06:34] <alek> i want to run *.bin file from console. how to do it?
[06:34] <Caminomaster> thanks, NoUse
[06:34] <vincent__> I need help with external harddrive (again)
[06:35] <Fracture> is it possible to use espresso to install dapper onto a lvm partition ?
[06:35] <vincent__> my dmesg is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12933
[06:35] <axisme> a bin is an image ...
[06:35] <NikosGr> thoreauputic: so the search mus inform me if i already have the package right?
[06:35] <kingspawn> alek: sure you can run that .bin?
[06:35] <axisme> your supposed to burn it to disc
[06:35] <alek> yes Im sure. when I dobuleclicked it, it runs
[06:35] <alek> but I dont know how to do it in console
[06:35] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: the seach won't, but the listing in synaptic shows what is installed
[06:35] <Caminomaster> new question: how to recover my damaged breezy installation? somebody was playing with security and now my system is wrong, i want to fix current installation not reinstalling it
[06:36] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: or do dpkg -l packagename
[06:36] <NikosGr> thoreauputic: iam alitel confused
[06:36] <kingspawn> alek: just get into the directory it is in, and type ./file.bin
[06:36] <NikosGr> how do i know through synaptic if i already have a package?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> alek:  ./filename.bin
[06:36] <kingspawn> NikosGr: its marked with a green checkbox-thingy
[06:36] <sys8794> jobezone and vincent__ thanks for the info I got a dummmy machine I am going to go try that on, I will report back on the status as soon as I get a chance
[06:36] <Caminomaster> there's an option that let me do that from install or live cds?
[06:36] <NoUse> vincent__ this guy seems to have the same problem and he has a workaround http://hallx049.oit.umn.edu/linux/laptops/tp-r40/
[06:36] <vincent__> the button will be green next to name of install pkg
[06:37] <kracker> i have the jre installed at: /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:37] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: seach for it, and see if it is marked as installed
[06:37] <kracker> i have created a symlink to the plugin (in the jre dir) at: /home/jack/.firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:37] <kracker> yet, firefox still acts like java is not installed or recognized
[06:37] <korniche> re all
[06:37] <NikosGr> Ah! good! now i understannd
[06:37] <kracker>  i followed the doc instructions at : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ef347c277a133b64af0600bd1bf24bc64e7038b8
[06:37] <kracker> i also followed the instructions at: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java
[06:38] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: in the terminal, you can do for instanec,   apt-cache policy your-package (tells you what is installed, what section etc for that package)
[06:38] <Caminomaster> how to recover a damaged installation from install or live cd?
[06:38] <alek> it works thanks!
[06:38] <kracker> and _still_ after restarting firefox i can not seem to have firefox recognize the java plugin
[06:38] <korniche> NoUse,  r u there ?
[06:38] <NikosGr> synapci will show to me all search results for what iam lookign for but will also mark as green if i ahve the package in my system. otherisw if tis empty and lcik in it then it will be downlaoed for me
[06:38] <thoreauputic> *instance
[06:38] <Beawolfe> slavick ....still around the keyboard?
[06:38] <NoUse> korniche yeah
[06:38] <korniche> NoUse,  , there's still datas inside the hard disk
[06:38] <slavik> yes, what?
[06:38] <korniche> the system installed is Unix
[06:38] <cahill_john> hi slavik
[06:38] <korniche> slavik,
[06:38] <slavik> uh oh ...
[06:39] <korniche> Scoterm Open server TM
[06:39] <slavik> talk fast about to leave
[06:39] <NikosGr> dpkg = debian package ? ?
[06:39] <cahill_john> THANX LINUX IS WORKIN NOW
[06:39] <NoUse> korniche what of file system is it?
[06:39] <vincent__> ->NoUse - Wow ! rmmod ehci ???? but I need USB fast !!!
[06:39] <jobezone> Caminomaster: depends on the "damage" itself.
[06:39] <slavik> korniche: NEVER HEARD OF IT
[06:39] <slavik> cahill_john: good
[06:39] <Beawolfe> you said breezy wont upgrade the new firefox is that true?
[06:39] <NoUse> vincent__ I don't know
[06:39] <korniche> slavik,  it's a really so old server
[06:39] <slavik> Beawolfe: yes
[06:39] <slavik> korniche: back important data to a CD or something and then wipe the drive
[06:39] <Beawolfe> what is the newset version breezy will handle?
[06:40] <vincent__> wow.. no soluce, just disabling EHCI ???
[06:40] <NoUse> slavik it's from SCO, thats why it isn't work :-)
[06:40] <korniche> slavik,  , i couldn't know what system file is installed with
[06:40] <slavik> 1.0.7 is what is in the repos
[06:40] <vincent__> lemme read this thread..
[06:40] <slavik> !firefoxnewversion
[06:40] <ubotu> slavik: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:40] <slavik> !ff1.5
[06:40] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:40] <korniche> slavik,  , this Scoterm Unix do not support USB or cds or anything ..
[06:40] <slavik> follow that wiki guide for 1.5
[06:40] <NikosGr> guys i need toc keck if i ahve this: Qt 4.1 must i dpkg -l 'Qt 4.1' ?
[06:40] <NikosGr> is thsi correct?
[06:40] <Hattori> i'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/683195
[06:40] <slavik> korniche ... then I dunno what to say ...
[06:40] <slavik> can it connect to an ftp server?
[06:41] <Caminomaster> the damage related is, trying to change the access of hidden files on my folder i typed "chmod -R 777 .*" but it modified all the system .* files :( then brother tryied to fix it and changed it to 644 i think, and now some things work bad
[06:41] <slavik> you can set up an ftp server and have the OS transfer the files there
[06:41] <slavik> then wipe it :D
[06:41] <korniche> slavik,
[06:41] <vincent__> HERES a question : If I hremove EHCI module & leave only OHCI, will I still have USB2 fast transfers?? this is for an external backup disk...
[06:41] <cahill_john> on which server is icq located SLAVIK ??
[06:42] <NikosGr> there are so many qt packages that i dotn know if they are Qt 4.1
[06:42] <slavik> no idea ...
[06:42] <korniche> slavik,  when the hard disk is on the server , other clients can get in with Telnet , but i couldn't copy data ..
[06:42] <NoUse> vincent__ you can test it, if it slows it down just reboot and it will fix itself
[06:42] <cahill_john> hmmmmm
[06:42] <slavik> telnet doesn't do file transfer
[06:42] <NoUse> vincent__ just dont' delet the module
[06:42] <slavik> use ftp ...
[06:42] <jobezone> Caminomaster: ahh
[06:42] <cahill_john> ANYONE WHICH CRAP SERVER IS ICQ ON ?
[06:42] <NoUse> !caps
[06:42] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[06:42] <korniche> slavik,  how can i make it work with Ftp ?
[06:42] <slavik> why icq and not ftp?
[06:43] <konstandinosk> Hi I still can't get my ati card to work. Here is a detailed report of my problem for those who think they can help. I've dont a lot of research and am still stuck. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166447
[06:43] <slavik> you set up an ftp server on another system and then have the old unix connect to it and then upload data
[06:43] <Caminomaster> jobezone, it seems to be a very bad change to my system
[06:43] <Beawolfe> okay got the link and the info....thanx!
[06:43] <jobezone> Caminomaster: so you would want your system to be re-installed, or fixed, leaving your personal files and configuration intact? The only way to do that would be to backup, and re-install.
[06:43] <vincent__> NoUse : Thx for that link.. I'm gonna simpluy drop the module... rmmod ehci_hcd & see what happens then..
[06:43] <cpl-tnt900> i have a quastion not related to ubunto else to windows xp : has anyone got the last update with the fucking blue microstar at the taskbar ? how can i fucken remove it !?
[06:43] <korniche> slavik,  , easy to say :p
[06:44] <jobezone> Caminomaster: And next time you install ubuntu, make a separate partition for /home, so it's less troublesome if it happens again :)
[06:44] <slavik> korniche: or, you set up a web server on this server drive and simply download the entire thing
[06:44] <korniche> slavik,  , do u think that it's easy to do with such old system ? this scoterm  ?
[06:44] <godis> hi everyone :)
[06:44] <kracker> slavik, i'm alreadying firefox 1.5+ using the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:44] <jobezone> Caminomaster: I gotta go, good luck!
[06:44] <slavik> it should be able to do ftp ... ftp is old
[06:44] <ruffneck_> Can someone point me in the right direction for the differences in compiz-aiglx and compiz-vanilla ?
[06:45] <vincent__> How about that !!!
[06:45] <vincent__> It worked !!
[06:45] <slavik> good
[06:45] <vincent__> Sooo....
[06:45] <korniche> ftp can it work with Intranet ?
[06:45] <vincent__> OHCI & EHCI usb jst don't get along AT ALL !!!
[06:45] <NikosGr> nikos@dell:~$ sudo echo "deb http://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor dapper main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:45] <NikosGr> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[06:45] <slavik> konstandinosk: use the wiki, there is a repo there provided by Seveas that has the ati driver
[06:45] <NikosGr> can you see soemthign wrong?
[06:45] <vincent__> This should be reported somewhere ...
[06:46] <Caminomaster> jobezone
[06:46] <vincent__> on ubuntu forum or something of the likes
[06:46] <Caminomaster> jobezone, i see, thanks, i have that partition now
[06:46] <slavik> NikosGr: use pipe
[06:46] <slavik> instead of |
[06:46] <korniche> slavik,  ftp can it work with Intranet ?
[06:46] <slavik> korniche: no idea ...
[06:46] <cpl-tnt900> i have a quastion not related to ubunto else to windows xp : has anyone got the last update with the fucking blue microstar at the taskbar ? how can i fucken remove it !? - im refering to Guinuine Cdkey they require now ... (A CRAPY OS and they want money on it !!! BAH ! ! !! )
[06:46] <korniche> ok
[06:46] <NikosGr> but i need the rediection to a file not to a command
[06:46] <vincent__> --->NoUse : Thanks for this info.. really life saver !
[06:46] <korniche> i think that there's no hope with my case :p
[06:46] <slavik> oh, right
[06:46] <slavik> no clue then
[06:47] <NoUse> vincent__ I just plugged your error message into google
[06:47] <korniche> slavik,  , do u know any partition viewer in windows ?
[06:47] <XamDM> cpl-tnt900, you should ask in a windows-forum .....
[06:47] <unforcer> I did  sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives :/ I did not think that there was an partipal file in there. What to do?
[06:47] <korniche> such partition magic , that don't see Unix partition ? something else like it ?
[06:47] <vincent__> dammit, I did that, and didn't get that link at all
[06:47] <vincent__> but I'm on google.fr
[06:48] <vincent__> :/
[06:48] <petscii> hola
[06:48] <NikosGr> slavik: cxan yous how me pleae?
[06:48] <NikosGr> i just want to append a line tou sources
[06:48] <NoUse> vincent__ you can add a line: "blacklist ehci_hcd" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" and it will keep it from loading at boot
[06:48] <slavik> hmm
[06:49] <NikosGr> my statement looks correct
[06:49] <godis> hey does anyone of u know how to link my computer to my other comp ??? in a network'
[06:49] <NikosGr> but it doesnt work
[06:49] <vincent__> Very nice of you to tell me.. I was gonna seach that one too.. thx NoUse !!
[06:49] <NoUse> vincent__ no prob
[06:50] <godis> r det ngn hr som pratar svenska??
[06:50] <Patrick_> HEY GUYS.
[06:50] <Patrick_> I HAVE A QUESTION.
[06:50] <Caminomaster> i want to use some applications rom breezy on dapper, could it be possible?
[06:50] <Patrick_> IS ANYONE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER IT?
[06:50] <Trunkz> Patrik
[06:50] <Trunkz> dont use caps please
[06:50] <Doat> Patrick_, caps off and someone might
[06:50] <Patrick_> OKAY.
[06:50] <Patrick_> I WILL TAKE THE CAPS OFF.
[06:50] <sonork_> Guys, i got the following problem, and this is somekinda confusing me: I downloaded ipod_fw.c (to get Rockbox-software on my ipod mini) then i tried to compile it using "gcc -o path/to/ipod_fw.c" the gcc output is: "gcc: no input files". this confuses me cuz it just worked yesterday but i erased the file,... can anyone of u compile it for me or gimme some help?
[06:50] <Patrick_> THANKS FOR THE SUGGESTION, GUYS.
[06:51] <Trunkz> ...
[06:51] <Patrick_> A NEW USER LIKE MYSELF NEEDS TIPS LIKE THAT.
[06:51] <Doat> calm down
[06:51] <kingspawn> sonork_: gcc path/bla.c -o outfile
[06:51] <Hattori> i'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/683195
[06:51] <konstandinosk> slavik: is there any way i can set the apt-get install command to also look at my cdrom?
[06:51] <Seveas> konstandinosk, apt-cdrom add
[06:51] <konstandinosk> (im not the ubuntu expert at all)
[06:51] <konstandinosk> ok ill try that thnx
[06:52] <Hattori> !mysql
[06:52] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:52] <slavik> konstandinosk: use synaptic
[06:52] <slavik> it's easier
[06:52] <NikosGr> apt-get update updates its current package list with the one of a remote repository?
[06:52] <cahill_john> ANYONE KNOWS WHICH SERVER ICQ IS ON?
[06:52] <godis> does anyone here know how i link my two comp with each other so i can run them in a network??
[06:52] <cahill_john> godis try using a wifi
[06:52] <NikosGr> while upgrade also updates packages?
[06:53] <slavik> NikosGr: seems like you have to do the sudo su trick
[06:53] <cahill_john> thanx again slavik
[06:53] <konstandinosk> slavik: what is synaptic?
[06:53] <cahill_john> ur advice was brilliant
[06:53] <NikosGr> slavik: i just did sudo -i and it worked
[06:53] <slavik> upgrade upgrades the packages, update updates the available packages list
[06:53] <konstandinosk> or how do i use it?
[06:53] <NikosGr> what trick are you talking?
[06:53] <slavik> !synaptic
[06:53] <ubotu> synaptic is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:53] <cahill_john> synaptic is touchpad
[06:53] <konstandinosk> thankx
[06:53] <cahill_john> hey PPL ICQ SERVER PLZ
[06:53] <Patrick_> HEY, THANKS FOR KICKING ME OUT.
[06:53] <Patrick_> I LEARNED A REAL LESSON TODAY.
[06:54] <slavik> NikosGr: whatever works I guess
[06:54] <Patrick_> DON'T ANNOY PEOPLE WITH THE CAPS LOCK ON.
[06:54] <etmnt> I hope you did.
[06:54] <godis> cahill_john what is a wifi?? i new in this
[06:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell Patrick_ about attitude
[06:54] <slavik> Patrick_: caps
[06:54] <cahill_john> internet connection godis
[06:54] <Patrick_> OKAY, I'LL TURN THEM OFF RIGHT NOW.
[06:54] <Caminomaster> Ptrick you seems to be working on calc or excel
[06:54] <cahill_john> however u can set it up between 2 systems
[06:54] <Patrick_> THANKS AGAIN.
[06:54] <Caminomaster> Patrick you seems to be working on calc or excel
[06:54] <godis> ok
[06:54] <NikosGr> slavik: yes it worked but what trickes were you talking? i must know
[06:54] <Patrick_> Actually, I'm on a Mac.
[06:54] <godis> thx
[06:54] <Patrick_> Intel iMacs rule.
[06:54] <cahill_john> do u have wireness connection godix
[06:54] <Caminomaster> !attitude
[06:54] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[06:54] <cahill_john> wireless*
[06:54] <konstandinosk> seveas: i mounted the cdrom (with the ubuntu live cd in it) and when i tried 'apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' it instantly told me 'couldn't find package' -> is it possible that its not checking the cdrom drive at all?
[06:55] <Caminomaster> XD
[06:55] <Patrick_> Ubotu, can i get a credit check in this room?
[06:55] <ubotu> Patrick_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:55] <konstandinosk> (im going to try synaptic now)
[06:55] <cahill_john> HEY GODIS
[06:55] <Patrick_> Can I get a credit check in here?
[06:55] <Patrick_> Hello?
[06:55] <Patrick_> Anyone?
[06:55] <cahill_john> wireless connection, do u have 1?
[06:55] <Inner|RE> wtf
[06:55] <slavik> !tell cahill_john about caps
[06:55] <Patrick_> I said Hello.
[06:55] <Caminomaster> Patrick, what do you mean with credit check?
[06:55] <Patrick_> Uh, hello?
[06:55] <cahill_john> ok slavik
[06:55] <Caminomaster> hello Patrick
[06:55] <Patrick_> Como Estas?
[06:55] <slavik> Patrick_: do you have a problem?
[06:55] <Caminomaster> Patrick be a bit be patient
[06:55] <godis> yes cahill john...
[06:55] <Patrick_> I think I have a problem with my credit
[06:56] <cahill_john> but can anyone tell me y my macromedia plugin shows no script in it
[06:56] <Patrick_> And thus it needs a check.
[06:56] <Patrick_> Hence, credit check.
[06:56] <Caminomaster> Patrick, do you speak spanish?
[06:56] <probleman> hello, i have problem installing ut2003demo on ubuntu x86_64. I'm running installer with linux32 but anyway have error: ./setup.sh: line 104:  5956 Przerwane               "$setup" "$@" 2>/dev/null
[06:56] <probleman> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2. Anyone can help? :)
[06:56] <Patrick_> Mi Casa Su Casa
[06:56] <slackern> Not only thing needing to be checked
[06:56] <cahill_john> bcoz i tried to login from their website
[06:56] <farruinn> Caminomaster: I don't think Patrick_ is here for help - just wait a moment and I'm sure he'll get kicked again
[06:56] <slavik> !ops
[06:56] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[06:56] <Patrick_> Guys! It's a serious question!
[06:56] <Patrick_> I really need help with this problem.
[06:56] <slavik> !ask
[06:56] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[06:56] <Doat> probably not on this channel
[06:56] <Caminomaster> Patrick, this is an ubuntu IRC, if you need to talk about credit cards, go to the correct place
[06:57] <etmnt> lol
[06:57] <cahill_john> lol
[06:57] <Patrick_> Okay, THANKS CAMINO.
[06:57] <Doat> Patrick_, if you're trying to be funny, you're not
[06:57] <Zoroaster> does anyone know of a good linux network monitor?
[06:57] <Patrick_> I APPRECIATE IT!
[06:57] <Mitzi> alt+f4 for credit card info
[06:57] <slavik> use !ops to get an op's attention
[06:57] <Patrick_> GOODBYE
[06:57] <NikosGr> will someoen help me install tor please?
[06:57] <etmnt> his name is Patrick, and he likes the caps.
[06:57] <slavik> what Mitzi said
[06:57] <konstandinosk> seveas: i mounted the cdrom (with the ubuntu live cd in it) and when i tried 'apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' it instantly told me 'couldn't find package' -> is it possible that its not checking the cdrom drive at all?
[06:57] <slavik> peace all
[06:58] <NikosGr> http://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[06:58] <Psikosis> hello !
[06:58] <Psikosis> i love ubuntu!
[06:58] <Doat> lol
[06:58] <_harm> whats should i enter to connect to hotmail server pop3 and then whats the server adress?
[06:59] <AnsiC> uff
[06:59] <Sodium> which software is similar to DVD shrink to copy DVD movies?
[06:59] <Caminomaster> hello Psikosis
[06:59] <AnsiC> fuck binutils
[06:59] <ruffneck_> hi guys, how can u tell what was the last thing you installed using apt-cache or something of the like?
[06:59] <AnsiC> glibc and gcc and all configuraitions file
[06:59] <holo> hi
[06:59] <Seveas> konstandinosk, the ubuntu live cd has no packages on it
[06:59] <rabe> Hello, I just compiled a program successfully (i think), but I don't have any shortcut to it in the panel !? How to add one?
[06:59] <kingspawn> AnsiC: whats the matter?
[06:59] <farruinn> _harm: it would be pop.hotmail.com or semething like that
[07:00] <holo> i'm having trouble with esound. i can't send audio format to stream. i'm using xmms with plugin and connecting remotly
[07:00] <holo> i can play in localhost
[07:00] <AnsiC> i'm tring to create a chroot enviroment
[07:00] <konstandinosk> seveas: ok so if i want to get fglrx, and i cant connect the the internet, my only option is to get the full breezy package cd (which i can do)?
[07:00] <AnsiC> install into chroot enviroment all tool for building programs
[07:00] <AnsiC> build
[07:00] <Seveas> konstandinosk, yes
[07:00] <konstandinosk> ok thanks
[07:00] <AnsiC> but LFS book create much caos in my head
[07:00] <farruinn> rabe: Applications>System Tools>Applications menu editer
[07:01] <konstandinosk> one last quick question - i can get the full ubuntu (packages and all) on a dvd. is it easy to mount a dvd from command line?
[07:01] <AnsiC> the sound is like that my system can create negative interferenc
[07:01] <jobezone> I just checked, and it will be knoppix 5.0 that will have by default the ability to write to ntfs (using, I presume, captive-ntfs)
[07:01] <Seveas> konstandinosk, just put it in, it will automount
[07:01] <konstandinosk> great. now i know what to do
[07:02] <konstandinosk> thanks for your help
[07:02] <cva> I have a driver attached to a usb device, but throughout the day, the system seems to reset the usb devices, which causes my driver connection to be lost. http://pastebin.com/683323
[07:03] <cva> any idea as to what would cause this?
[07:04] <gnu2it2> how to disable gdm/xdm from stsrting on boot?
[07:06] <NoUse> gnu2it2 via gui you can install bum and it gives you a dialgo to disable boot services
[07:06] <iloadmin> hello all
[07:08] <KoRniChe> re
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> moo
[07:10] <KoRniChe> NoUse
[07:10] <KoRniChe> r u there ?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> hmm?
[07:12] <NoUse> KoRniChe yes
[07:12] <NikosGr> deb http://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor dapper main
[07:12] <NikosGr> this is also ot workign 4u?
[07:12] <KoRniChe> do u know any program to view the partition ?
[07:13] <KoRniChe> like partition magic ?
[07:13] <thoreauputic> gparted
[07:13] <NoUse> KoRniChe if fdisk didn't see it, gparted probably won't
[07:13] <thoreauputic> !info gparted
[07:13] <ubotu> gparted: (partition editor for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.8+cvs2005061901-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 1260 kB
[07:14] <KoRniChe> something on windows i mean
[07:14] <asdf__> hi there
[07:14] <NoUse> KoRniChe Partition magic is probably your best bet
[07:14] <thoreauputic>  /join ##windows
[07:15] <asdf__> i have a problem with s-video out
[07:15] <KoRniChe> NoUse , the partition magic saw it .. and said that it's a Unix partition
[07:15] <KoRniChe> but i can't browse it
[07:15] <thoreauputic> KoRniChe: what are yo trying to do exactly?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> *you
[07:15] <mzuverink> KoRniChe:I would not use partition magic, fire=burn
[07:15] <Elazar> Why on the default MPlayer install do I get this error message on startup? "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)"
[07:16] <asdf__> anybody can help me?
[07:16] <NoUse> Elazar install mplayer-fonts
[07:16] <KoRniChe> i've a hard disk , i need to back up datas from it , but it's Unix partion , so i can't see it from windows
[07:16] <thoreauputic> Elazar: install mplayer-fonts
[07:16] <grahal> I just installed linux-source package but I got a tar.bz2 file in /usr/src directory. Is that normal? Why wasn't the kernel source uncompressed?
[07:16] <NoUse> asdf__ if you explain your problem we can try
[07:16] <ConfidentiaL> what is the best torrent program for ubuntu?
[07:17] <NoUse> thoreauputic its a SCO OpenServer partiion, fdisk says there are no partitions on the disk but apparently PartMagic says there is
[07:17] <mzuverink> Ive got a usb 1 gig flash drive that i can read and write to but i cannot rename it or format it.  What do i need to do to be able to do those tasks?
[07:17] <asdf__> i have a nvidia gforce 440 and i can't use the tv out
[07:17] <KoRniChe> mzuverink , do u have a link to donwload fireburn ?
[07:17] <thoreauputic> NoUse: oh, SCO :-(
[07:17] <NoUse> thoreauputic
[07:17] <NoUse> oops yeah
[07:17] <NikosGr> pleae tell me how do you issue comamnds to irc server through gaim?
[07:17] <mzuverink> asdf__:read the nvidia manual, it is in the appedicies, it will explain what you need to edit and what to place in the file when editing
[07:18] <mzuverink> KoRniChe: fireburn?
[07:18] <KoRniChe> [18:17]  <thoreauputic> NoUse: oh, SCO :-( ==> do u know this Sco Open server TM ?
[07:18] <asdf__> where is the nvidia manual
[07:18] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: gaim is pretty limited for IRC - try xchat is my advice
[07:18] <NikosGr> ok ill try irssi
[07:18] <NoUse> KoRniChe SCO has been suing IBM for the last 4 years claiming they own Linux
[07:18] <Elazar> NoUse, thoreauputic: Hm... odd how it doesn't include that as a dependency. Thanks guys. :P
[07:18] <NoUse> KoRniChe they are evil
[07:19] <ConfidentiaL> what is the best torrent program for ubuntu?
[07:19] <mzuverink> KoRniChe: I was stating that you need to be careful with Partition Magic, it is like playing with fire, yo will get burned
[07:19] <NikosGr> thoreauputic: what are you sing?
[07:19] <thoreauputic> KoRniChe:  SCO is the company that claimed Linux is a derivative of Unix and is continuing to sue IBM - where have you been for the last 3 years ?
[07:19] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[07:19] <rabe> hello, the package manager is bothering me with an "update" of firefox to 1.0.8, i have however the 1.5.0.2 (in Breezy). How to make it STOP asking for updates for a specific app (in this case firefox)?
[07:19] <Seveas> @nick Ubugtu
[07:19] <Elazar> rabe: Just go ahead and install it. It won't overwrite your 1.5.0.2 install.
[07:20] <rabe> will is not mix up my shortcuts or so?
[07:20] <Hattori> i'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/683195
[07:20] <Hattori> followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP but still got same problem
[07:20] <Elazar> rabe: No. I've done it.
[07:20] <rabe> ok then
[07:21] <thoreauputic> !tell rabe about ff1.5
[07:21] <rabe> ???
[07:21] <rabe> i have ff1.5
[07:21] <NikosGr> is there a way to make an rpm packge to work to ubuntu?
[07:21] <_jason> Hattori: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:21] <NikosGr> will be instaleld ok?
[07:21] <Hattori> dapper
[07:21] <Hattori> after update/upgrade
[07:21] <_jason> Hattori: please use #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[07:21] <Hattori> worked before update/upgrade
[07:21] <asdf__> where can i find the nvidia manual
[07:21] <Elazar> rabe: If you followed those instructions already, then just install the update you're being prompted to install.
[07:21] <MonsieurBon> hello
[07:22] <thoreauputic> rabe: updating ff 1.0.7 to 1.0.8 won't break anything if you followed the wiki above
[07:22] <MonsieurBon> how do I double the space between letters of an existing ttf with fontforge?
[07:23] <thoreauputic> MonsieurBon: sounds a bit specialised for a general ubuntu channel
[07:23] <rabe> 
[07:23] <MonsieurBon> thoreauputic, true, but there's no fontforge channel...
[07:23] <thoreauputic> ah
[07:23] <korrr> KoRniChe
[07:23] <|lostbyte|> Hi ! how to shutdown wlan0 ?
[07:23] <whaley_work> have you guys seen this, someone is doing a starcraft port in mono: http://squeedlyspooch.com/blog/archives/002040.html
[07:23] <korrr> [18:18]  <mzuverink> KoRniChe: fireburn?
[07:23] <korrr> [18:18]  <KoRniChe> [18:17]  <thoreauputic> NoUse: oh, SCO :-( ==> do u know this Sco Open server TM ?
[07:23] <korrr> [18:18]  <KoRniChe> mzuverink ?? [18:15]  <mzuverink> KoRniChe:I would not use partition magic, fire=burn
[07:24] <korrr> ??
[07:24] <thoreauputic> |lostbyte|: sudo ifdown wlan0  ?
[07:24] <NikosGr> does anyone form here has tor instaleld?
[07:24] <mojo> hello party people.  i have had my first kernel panic.  isn't that fun?  I upgraded from breezy to dapper using the update manager (gksudo update-manager -d).  Luckily I have a amd64 install to play with on a different partition.  But thanks to macromedia I can't really just start up and using this install daily yet.  Anyone got some advice for me?   I have never had a kernel panic before.
[07:24] <mojo> sudo ifdown wlan0 (?)
[07:25] <korrr> NoUse : http://experts.about.com/q/Unix-Linux-OS-1064/Viewing-SCO-OpenServer-Partition.htm
[07:25] <|lostbyte|> thoreauputic: tx, which line tells me if the if is down ?
[07:25] <NikosGr> WILL SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME FIND AND INSTALL tOR?
[07:25] <thoreauputic> |lostbyte|:  ifconfig
[07:25] <Seveas> NikosGr, drop the caps
[07:25] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: patience
[07:25] <NoUse> !tell NikosGr about caps
[07:25] <NikosGr> ok
[07:25] <mojo> NikosGr, yeah, but not on this install... it has been runnin on breezy for me for a long time with no real problems or interaction really.  I use privoxy and fast proxy switch plugin in firefox to go "stealth"
[07:25] <thoreauputic> !patience
[07:25] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[07:26] <|lostbyte|> thoreauputic: huh ? i think you mean iwconfig..
[07:26] <NikosGr> mojo: yes but Tor in conjuction with freecap can sockify every network aplication to go stealth behind a series of proxies
[07:26] <tucoz> hello. Is it possible to make rythmbox not scan my mp3-player each time I plug it in?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> |lostbyte|: whatever - ifconfig shows all interfaces
[07:26] <tucoz> *rhythmbox
[07:26] <thoreauputic> afaik
[07:26] <korrr> NoUse , saw the link ?
[07:27] <|lostbyte|> thoreauputic: yeah ! i see it.. but i want to know which line tells me if my wifi lan is on line or ofline ?
[07:27] <korrr> NoUse : http://experts.about.com/q/Unix-Linux-OS-1064/Viewing-SCO-OpenServer-Partition.htm
[07:27] <mojo> NikosGr, freecap????
[07:27] <NikosGr> a proxyfying tool
[07:27] <Rug> Howdy all
[07:27] <NikosGr> it can make very aplication fo your to use proxies
[07:27] <CarlFK> apt-get upgrade... "The following packages have been kept back:  linux-image-686" - how do I upgrade it?
[07:27] <coda_> Does anyone have any experience getting dual monitors to work with Dapper x86_64 with the fglrx drivers? fireglcontrol doesn't save any changes for me.
[07:27] <thoreauputic> |lostbyte|: the inet line I suppose
[07:27] <NikosGr> without you having to configure each one
[07:27] <|lostbyte|> thoreauputic: ifconfig does'nt show my wlan0, where as iwconfig shows..
[07:27] <korrr> thoreauputic : http://experts.about.com/q/Unix-Linux-OS-1064/Viewing-SCO-OpenServer-Partition.htm
[07:27] <NikosGr> and even if applications dot work with procies
[07:28] <mojo> NikosGr, ok... I will look that up
[07:28] <NikosGr> www.freecap.org
[07:28] <mojo> thanks
[07:28] <NikosGr> i use it in xp all th time
[07:28] <NikosGr> in conjuction with Vidalia
[07:28] <thoreauputic> korrr: sorry, I know nothing about SCO and frankly I don't want to know - they are the scum of the earth
[07:28] <NikosGr> vidalia is a cross platform Tor monitoring gui
[07:28] <korrr> lol thoreauputic :pp
[07:28] <NikosGr> mojo: you shoul really try this out
[07:29] <korrr> thoreauputic , do u think that i'd like to know me too ? just that's my work , save datas :p
[07:29] <|lostbyte|> thoreauputic: :) ok.. one more thing.. what do i do if i want to apply the configuration of the /etc/network/interfaces config
[07:29] <NoUse> korrr the problem is Linux isn't seeing the partition, so it can't read it
[07:29] <mojo> NikosGr, okay.  um okay.  I guess I still have a bit to learn about the sockets with tor
[07:29] <NoUse> korrr I think you should try to FTP the files off
[07:29] <thoreauputic> korrr: understood :)
[07:29] <baconbacon> anybody knows/remembers how to enable gpg signing in gedit?
[07:29] <NikosGr> mojo anyway man i can insall tor here in ubunty
[07:29] <_jason> baconbacon: install seahorse and enable the plugin in gedit's preferences
[07:30] <baconbacon> seahorse that's it
[07:30] <NikosGr> apt-get doesn fidn it even though i have appaened a surces.list
[07:30] <NikosGr> that i found on google
[07:30] <NikosGr> :(
[07:30] <thoreauputic> |lostbyte|: I don't understand what you mean
[07:30] <NikosGr> deb http://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor dapper main
[07:30] <NikosGr> this supposed to have helped me find it but it doesnt
[07:30] <arnold84> Hi i have a problem whne mounting an usb penn
[07:31] <|lostbyte|> thoreauputic: if you look in your /etc/network/interfaces file you will see that your network info is writen there which takes effect at boot. but i have made changes to it and it want to apply it :)
[07:31] <arnold84> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,
[07:31] <arnold84>        missing codepage or other error
[07:31] <arnold84>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[07:31] <arnold84>        dmesg | tail  or so
[07:31] <arnold84> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,
[07:31] <arnold84>        missing codepage or other error
[07:31] <arnold84>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[07:31] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: did you put that line in /etc/apt/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update ?
[07:31] <arnold84>        dmesg | tail  or so
[07:31] <arnold84> Error: could not execute pmount
[07:31] <Rug> !pastebin
[07:31] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:31] <NoUse> !tell arnold84 about paste
[07:31] <arnold84> Sry for floodin
[07:31] <senjin> hello i was trying to instal a prog but when doing the make command this text appears senjin@c-3e84e155:~/desktopa/opendchub-0.7.15$ make
[07:31] <senjin> bash: make: command not found
[07:31] <senjin>  what shall i do
[07:31] <arnold84> Sorry!!
[07:31] <NikosGr> thoreauputic: exactly
[07:31] <thoreauputic> arnold84: never do that again
[07:31] <polpak> senjin, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:31] <arnold84> i wont
[07:31] <|lostbyte|> thoreauputic: Did you get me yet ?
[07:32] <thoreauputic> arnold84: you'd better not ;)
[07:32] <arnold84> :-)
[07:32] <NoUse> arnold84 does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' output anything?
[07:32] <IceTox> I think I've tried like every tip on the ubuntuforums.org, but still I can't get my layout for norwegian.. I'm not able to write the three extra characters (letters) that we have in our langugage, nor does the previous keyboard shortcuts I set while installing work..
[07:32] <thoreauputic> |lostbyte|:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:32] <senjin> were do i then check what the esntials are?
[07:32] <thoreauputic> I think
[07:32] <korrr> NoUse
[07:32] <korrr> thoreauputic
[07:32] <korrr> i found a solution :p
[07:32] <NikosGr> is there a way to install an .rpm on ubuntu?
[07:32] <NoUse> korrr cool
[07:32] <polpak> !rpm
[07:32] <ubotu> methinks rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[07:32] <thoreauputic> korrr: aha !
[07:32] <arnold84> yep
[07:33] <NikosGr> !alien
[07:33] <ubotu> [alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[07:33] <korrr> i've the norton ghost 2005 , i'm making a clone of the hard disk in one file on another hard disk
[07:33] <polpak> senjin, it will install make, gcc, autoconf, etc
[07:33] <mojo> SO:  Anyone want to take on a KERNEL PANIC after a Breezy=>Dapper upgrade??  I am a KP virgin so be gentle!
[07:33] <roryy> senjin: build-essential is the package; installing that will automatically install compilers etc
[07:33] <arnold84> it seems okay, it finds the usbpen
[07:33] <polpak> NikosGr, what rpm are you trying to install?
[07:33] <|lostbyte|> thoreauputic: k
[07:33] <roryy> senjin: if you care, you can run 'apt-cache depends build-essential'
[07:33] <NikosGr> i see
[07:33] <korrr> and , i've a clone viewer so i can see what files are in my backup
[07:33] <NoUse> arnold84 usually usb pens just show up on the gnome desktop
[07:33] <korrr> i think that it's a solution no ?
[07:33] <NoUse> arnold84 what did fdisk show? put it in pastebin
[07:33] <korrr> what do u think thoreauputic NoUse ?
[07:33] <korrr> :p
[07:33] <arnold84> i know, and i never got the problem before
[07:34] <thoreauputic> korrr: I guess cloning it should work
[07:34] <polpak> arnold84, it may have an odd filesystem, you can always reformat/partition and it should work
[07:34] <NoUse> korrr how are you going to read the cloned image?
[07:34] <korrr> thoreauputic , i'll be back with results soon :p
[07:34] <korrr> see ya
[07:34] <IceTox> I think I've tried like every tip on the ubuntuforums.org, but still I can't get my layout for norwegian.. I'm not able to write the three extra characters (letters) that we have in our langugage, nor does the previous keyboard shortcuts I set while installing work..
[07:35] <korrr> NoUse , there's a Norton Ghost Explorer integrated with Norton Ghost 2005
[07:35] <NoUse> korrr ok
[07:35] <korrr> BrB
[07:35] <senjin> thx for the help i am instaling the pagages now
[07:35] <arnold84> It an has some valuble data
[07:35] <arnold84> valueble
[07:35] <arnold84> damn!
[07:35] <arnold84> Cant spell!!:-)
[07:36] <thoreauputic> arnold84: typos are acceptable ;-)
[07:36] <NikosGr> icant vene perform a whois through gaim?
[07:36] <mojo> NikosGr, I could not find www.freecap.org but I found http://www.freecap.ru/eng/ instead.  Same thing, right?
[07:36] <NikosGr> yeah thas it, my mistake
[07:36] <NikosGr> sorry
[07:36] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: as I told you, gaim is limited for IRC
[07:36] <NikosGr> yes but now veen i whois....
[07:37] <arnold84> should i edit fstab?
[07:37] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: I recommend you use another client - maybe xchat
[07:37] <Rug> arnold84: no
[07:37] <polpak> arnold84, for the usb drive? no
[07:37] <NikosGr> thoreauputic: well xhat is very ugly
[07:37] <arnold84> .....
[07:37] <NikosGr> in ubuntu gnome
[07:37] <NikosGr> i dotn know why
[07:37] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: your decision
[07:37] <NikosGr> other xchat wher more beautifull
[07:37] <arnold84> i got no idea what to do:-(
[07:37] <NikosGr> istn there a ncie gui?
[07:38] <polpak> arnold84, did you pastebin the output of the command sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda    ?
[07:38] <Rug> arnold84: can a Windows box read it?
[07:38] <thoreauputic> NikosGr: you made the choice to prefer beauty over functionality :)
[07:38] <IceTox> I think I've tried like every tip possible, but still I can't get my layout for norwegian.. I'm not able to write the three extra characters (letters) that we have in our langugage, nor does the previous keyboard shortcuts I set while installing work.. Do you guys think about anything I might have missed? I've edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I've tried editing it with the keyboard manger thingie on the menu.
[07:38] <NoUse> arnold84 does it show up in System->Admin->Disks?
[07:38] <NikosGr> thoreauputic: well i prefer both
[07:38] <thoreauputic> IceTox: stop repeating please
[07:38] <arnold84> windows rerad fine. The same does my ubuntu box at home
[07:38] <NikosGr> ill conenct through irssi
[07:38] <NikosGr> :)
[07:38] <Rug> NikosGr: Irssi is da bomb
[07:39] <IceTox> sorry then thoreauputic, just wanted to edit it, to having mroe infromation
[07:39] <thoreauputic> IceTox: once every ten minutes or so might be OK
[07:39] <NikosGr> yeah!
[07:39] <IceTox> sure thoreauputic :-)
[07:39] <thoreauputic> IceTox: I guess currently no one knows how to help you
[07:39] <mojo> NikosGr, Hey man, that FreeCap thing looks like it is a Microsoft Windows program.  I am strictly Linux here (Ubuntu).  Is there something else I should be looking at or is there a Linux version?  Windows stuff does nothing for me (except give me headaches)
[07:39] <polpak> mojo, what are you trying to do?
[07:39] <Rug> =)
[07:40] <arnold84> it is pastes
[07:40] <arnold84> d
[07:40] <kIOsk> is there an idnet daemon integrated in ubuntu ?
[07:40] <polpak> arnold84, then give us the url =)
[07:41] <polpak> kIOsk, not by default I'm pretty sure
[07:41] <arnold84> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12935
[07:41] <thoreauputic> kIOsk: I think you mean ident - and no, not bydefault
[07:41] <arnold84> Damn it kinda slow today
[07:41] <kIOsk> polpak,  is there any advice ?
[07:41] <mojo> polpak, well NikosGr was asking about tor and I told him I run it (ubuntu/breezy).  He told me about freecap but looking into it I believe it is a Windows program.  GPL yes, but not a Linux thing.  I am REALLY here because I have a KERNEL PANIC after Breezy-Dapper upgrade and am stuck
[07:41] <NoUse> arnold84 when you call pmount, you have to use /dev/sda1, not /dev/sda
[07:41] <thoreauputic> mojo: try #ubuntu+1 for dapper problems
[07:42] <pequatre> hi. Would anyone be kind enough to direct me to the repository where i can find linux-headers-2.6.15.386" ? i've just upgraded from flight-5 to Beta. thx.
[07:42] <mojo> thoreauputic, hey thank you, I didn't know about that (cuz i'm too retarded today to read the channel tagline)
[07:42] <Rug> pequatre: if you have Dapper related questions you should try #ubuntu+1
[07:43] <mojo> Peace on Men and Good Will toward Earth!  I'll hop to the dapper support .  LATER!
[07:43] <thoreauputic> !info dapper linux-headers-2.6.15.386
[07:43] <pequatre> typo: 2.6.15.20.386
[07:43] <arnold84> if i use sda1 nothing happens
[07:43] <pequatre> thx thoreauputic
[07:43] <thoreauputic> hmm wrong syntax
[07:43] <NoUse> arnold84 you mean pmount didn't output anything?
[07:43] <arnold84> Yes
[07:43] <NoUse> arnold84 that means it worked
[07:43] <pequatre> !info dapper linux-header
[07:43] <NoUse> arnold84 have you checked your mount table?
[07:44] <pequatre> !info dapper
[07:44] <pequatre> !info linux-header
[07:44] <arnold84> where to find?
[07:44] <NoUse> arnold84 run 'mount'
[07:44] <davidX> i'm having problems with xserver-xorg on dapper
[07:44] <pequatre> !info linux-header-2.6.15-20.386
[07:45] <pequatre> !info linux-headers-2.6.15-20.386
[07:45] <thoreauputic> pequatre: the packagename is wrong
[07:45] <davidX> error on line 973 in /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/config
[07:45] <NoUse> davidX #ubuntu+1 for dapper stuff
[07:46] <johnrork> sorry for being a n00b, do i just jump in here?
[07:46] <momo3> instruction Google Adsense--> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Google.htm                 Download Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/FireFox7.htm
[07:46] <momo3> ?!
[07:46] <NoUse> johnrork yeah, ask your question
[07:46] <arnold84> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12936
[07:46] <smaur> sup guys, my ubuntu install just fucked up while installing, now XP Pro on a seperate partition wont boot, shall i try reinstalling ubuntu and hope it finds the windows xp install?
[07:46] <NoUse> arnold84 so it's mounted
[07:46] <johnrork> Thanks, issues with 5.10, not getting an IP at all over ethernet on an IBm t23
[07:47] <NoUse> arnold84 although you shouldn't mount it at /mnt
[07:47] <NoUse> arnold84 should be something like /mnt/usbdisk
[07:47] <thoreauputic> pequatre:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:47] <johnrork> Figured it would be driver-related, but it worked with whatever the preveious version was... hoary?
[07:47] <arnold84> still the smae mistake about the filesystem
[07:47] <johnrork> and it works perfectly on my 1.67 PowerBook G4
[07:47] <pequatre> thoreauputic, i'm currently using windows :(
[07:47] <arnold84> But in: admin-disks it finds it
[07:48] <thoreauputic> pequatre: well write the command down
[07:48] <farruinn> johnrork: You've configured and activated it through the network manager?
[07:48] <johnrork> Yes
[07:48] <thoreauputic> pequatre: that will install headers for your running kernel
[07:48] <wilycab> que fue johnny ya entraste
[07:48] <NoUse> arnold84 its mounted
[07:48] <NoUse> arnold84 what else are you trying to do?
[07:48] <pequatre> !info linux-headers-2.6.15-20-386
[07:48] <Hattori> i'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/683195
[07:48] <Hattori> followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP but still got same problem
[07:48] <sonork_> is there an ipod Software out there working with Linux and a 4GB Ipod Mini? anyone knows something?
[07:48] <johnrork> but it seems to be stuck on a self-assigned ip (127.xxx)
[07:48] <nalioth> thoreauputic: what's goin on in here?
[07:49] <Patrick_> HEY GUYS.
[07:49] <thoreauputic> pequatre: I already told you - that package name is wrong
[07:49] <NoUse> !ipod
[07:49] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[07:49] <Patrick_> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
[07:49] <kingspawn> pequatre: useful tidbit: just query ubotu, and write "info whatever" or just "whatever" (without the !) to get the info it has got
[07:49] <wilycab> oye que esta hablando la profe no enriendo nada
[07:49] <NoUse> !tell Patrick_ about caps
[07:49] <Patrick_> CAN ANYBODY HELP ME OUT?
[07:49] <farruinn> sonork_: check out amarok, gtkpod, and banshee
[07:49] <thoreauputic> pequatre: ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:49] <pequatre> k
[07:49] <Rug> Patrick_: Stop yelling
[07:49] <Patrick_> OH, RIGHT.  SORRY.
[07:49] <pequatre> k
[07:49] <Patrick_> I have a question.
[07:49] <Rug> Ask
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Patrick_: you have been warned before
[07:49] <johnny> nada loco
[07:49] <Patrick_> It was an unwitting mistake.
[07:49] <Patrick_> Christ.
[07:49] <sonork_> gtkpod does not work for me since it crashes my itunesDB everytime i add a song
[07:49] <wilycab> que desgracia no entinedo ni papa??
[07:49] <sonork_> amarok just does nothing
[07:50] <kIOsk> how to relaod inetd.conf
[07:50] <kIOsk> inetd
[07:50] <johnny> la plena loco
[07:50] <wilycab> jajaj
[07:50] <sonork_> not tried banshee yet, trying it later
[07:50] <farruinn> sonork_: Have you tried banshee? I haven't actually had a chance to look at it myself
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Patrick_: and you add language to your list of stupidities
[07:50] <johnny> jajjajja
[07:50] <wilycab> oe ya sabes como pasarnos informacion
[07:50] <johnny> pilas para las ayudantias
[07:50] <johnny> la plena
[07:50] <wilycab> jajaj simon
[07:50] <kingspawn> !es
[07:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:50] <sonork_> farruinn, i actually meant something like rockbox, or ipodlinux by "ipod software"
[07:50] <Elazar> Is there a way to get a listing of the files installed for a package from command line?
[07:50] <mathieu> Elazar: dpkg -L package
[07:51] <Elazar> mathieu: Thanks.
[07:51] <arnold84> i think i know a way
[07:51] <rus> hi all
[07:51] <farruinn> sonork_: Sorry, don't know what those are
[07:51] <rus> im trying to install a package without dependancy
[07:51] <arnold84> It has no path in admin-disks
[07:51] <rus> dpkg --ignore-depends=cedega -i cedega_5.1_i386.deb
[07:51] <rus>  it keeps telling me that dependancies are unsatisfied
[07:51] <arnold84> SHouldnt i make a path
[07:52] <rus> where am i wrong?
[07:52] <johnrork> So what should I do next if my properly-configured NIC can't get an IP (5.10 on IBM T23)?
[07:52] <thoreauputic> rus: installing without deps is kind of pointless, since it won't work without them
[07:52] <rus> this one does
[07:53] <NoUse> johnrork try manually assinging an IP and see if that works
[07:53] <johnrork> did and it doesn't
[07:53] <NoUse> run what dependecies does it want?
[07:54] <rus> NoUse: asking me?
[07:54] <arnold84> what path should i specifi?
[07:54] <NoUse> rus sorry, yeah
[07:54] <rus> xlibs
[07:54] <saik0> rus, --ignore-depends tells which dependencies to ignore, you want --force-depends, and packahes dont work without their deps so it's moot
[07:54] <rus> im on dapper
[07:54] <NoUse> arnold84 /media/usbdisk or something similar
[07:54] <arnold84> okay its done
[07:55] <saik0> !tell rus about dapper
[07:56] <rus> saik0: i know, i just wanted the syntax
[07:56] <johnrork> NoUse, thanks for the acknowledgements... my network skills are strong, but i have no linux-fu. So I've tried all the basics, what now?
[07:56] <rus> saik0: thanx it worked
[07:57] <sivang> re all
[07:58] <NoUse> johnrork google around for your notebook model and linux and see if anyone else has the same problem
[07:58] <johnrork> will do, thanks
[07:58] <sivang> does anybody know if there anyting to do to make my HD not spin down every second? I've already put ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=false but that didn't seem to help
[07:58] <NoUse> johnrork might try the dapper beta CD to see if its been fixed in the upcoming ubuntu release
[07:58] <sivang> it's a pain trying to get work done like that.
[07:58] <johnrork> thanks, but like i said, it worked in the last version...
[07:59] <Putiikki> sivang: have tried hdparm?
[07:59] <johnrork> which is weird, not like they'd DROP drivers
[07:59] <NoUse> johnrork yeah I don't know
[07:59] <sivang> Putiikki: not really, what should I try with it?
[07:59] <sk8az> can anyone help...  i tried all posts in forum... but i can't still get skype to work... i tried everything... an anyone help me in any way?>
[07:59] <johnrork> ok thanks anyway
[07:59] <Putiikki> sivang: read it's man page
[07:59] <sivang> Putiikki: good ide a:)
[07:59] <Putiikki> it has lots of options
[07:59] <Putiikki> :)
[08:00] <multimidia> kkkkkk
[08:00] <sivang> Putiikki: I'm on a T43p with a SATA2PATA motherboard brige , standard on those thinkpad models
[08:00] <multimidia> lots... you
[08:00] <multimidia> ?
[08:00] <sivang> Putiikki: should this be of interest as of this issue?
[08:00] <multimidia> issue, yes
[08:01] <senjin> i instaled a prog app with synaptic but cant find it on the menu what should i do?
[08:01] <kIOski> wheres the inetd located in ubuntu ??
[08:01] <Putiikki> sivang: don't know, and i go to sleep :P
[08:01] <sivang> Putiikki: night
[08:01] <Putiikki> yea
[08:01] <mathieu> kIOski: "locate inetd"?
[08:01] <multimidia> ubuntun... dont?
[08:01] <khaladan> does ubuntu have longer term viability than fedora?
[08:02] <multimidia> putiikki you
[08:02] <kIOski> hm it seems it doesnt use inetd
[08:02] <multimidia> standalono
[08:02] <t35t0r> how do i make a udev rule for multiple DIRECT-ACCESS USB or Firewire drives?
[08:02] <sk8az> can anyone help...  i tried all posts in forum... but i can't still get skype to work... i tried everything... an anyone help me in any way?
[08:02] <Rug> I have a nice custom bash prompt setup in my .bashrc but it doesn't seem to work.  what might I be doing wrong?  (Manually I can make it work by typing: (eg) PS1="custom bash here"
[08:03] <multimidia> takanakara, devoce
[08:03] <multimidia> pau em two
[08:03] <senjin> I instaled opendchub with synaptic and then i cant find the prog on the menu and i dont know were it is instalet and i wonder how do i start the prog?
[08:03] <multimidia> pikas no cess
[08:03] <harisund> Rug you might want to add it to your .bash_profile too.
[08:03] <NoUse> sk8az have you read the wiki howto?
[08:04] <sk8az> i think so
[08:04] <Rug> ahh, thanks
[08:04] <NoUse> !tell sk8az about skype
[08:04] <sk8az> it has something to do with the file
[08:04] <NoUse> sk8az something to do with the file.... could you be more specific?
[08:04] <harisund> Rug, if that doesn't work too, ensure you are logging into bash. Sometimes you might be logging into .sh and hence PS1 wouldn't response.
[08:04] <sk8az> i downloaded the file
[08:04] <Rug> nah it is bash
[08:05] <Rug> I already made sure of that
[08:05] <sk8az> i tried easyubuntu also, no mater what i did, everything exept skype worked
[08:05] <senjin> how do i start a prog that isent on the menu?
[08:05] <harisund> Rug: Ok Then I am guessing adding it to .bash_profile should work ..
[08:05] <saik0> senjin, Are sure thats a GUI prog?
[08:05] <Elazar> Anyone know why dragging-and-dropping in gftp doesn't seem to take? Is that not a feature?
[08:06] <t35t0r> do usb/firewire devices just work in ubuntu ?
[08:06] <Rug> I have to log-out for changes to take effect?
[08:06] <t35t0r> someone zip me up the entire /etc/udev rules and gimme
[08:06] <harisund> Rug I am guessing so
[08:06] <saik0> Elazar, you can use ftp through nautilus
[08:06] <Rug> bummer...  thanks for the tip
[08:06] <senjin> i first instaled the source then i found it in synatec and no i dont know if it is gui. i dont actualy got a to big grasp of gui either
[08:06] <Elazar> saik0: Thanks, I'll look into that then.
[08:07] <NoUse> sk8az can you provide any error mesages? anything that would give us a clue as to the nature of the problem? "Doesn't work" doesn't tell us much
[08:07] <eneried> hello
[08:08] <MonsieurBon> I'm trying to install gimp from source. the configure script gave this error: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[08:08] <MonsieurBon> what do I do?
[08:08] <Rug> Enigma is great music to hack away at code to...
[08:08] <harisund> Rug could you get it to work?
[08:08] <AnsiC> after make
[08:08] <AnsiC> make install install_root=/home/user/new_root
[08:08] <AnsiC> is correct?
[08:08] <Rug> I can't logout.  =(   I've got 3 different projects on the go
[08:09] <saik0> senjin, open up a terminal and do 'man opendchub'
[08:09] <harisund> Rug, you could do ". .bash_profile" And you might change your prompt.
[08:09] <saik0> !tell senjin about cli
[08:09] <eneried> could you help me? i'v just installled ubuntu, and now i want to auntomount my fat32 partitions at boot time, but i want to have full access to them, ubuntu by default let them hidden from me T_T
[08:09] <Jimmey__> !cli
[08:09] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:09] <harisund> Rug, or you could ssh into your local box (ssh localhost) and see if you get the prompt you want.
[08:10] <saik0> !tell Jimmey__ about fishing
[08:10] <t35t0r> this is the stupidest thing ever ...i can't find any articles online to figure out how to setup udev to automount any direct-access usb or firewire device!!!
[08:10] <Rug> Har, I love that idea!
[08:10] <ice> did flash 8 come out for linux yet ?
[08:10] <ice> I need it
[08:10] <harisund> Rug, yeah... or you could use screen instead :)
[08:11] <saik0> ice, Macromedia )back when they were still Macromedia) said there will be no flash 8 for linux
[08:11] <ice> are you serious
[08:11] <Rug> no it isn't working....
[08:11] <ice> thats not cool
[08:11] <johnrork> HAHA!!! For some reason the damn think defaulted to lo! Problem solved!
[08:11] <saik0> ice, Yes, they are "skipping" support for flash 8 and will be supporting flash 9
[08:11] <t35t0r> everywhere i look it always needs a SYSFS{model} ..well i don't know what model a user is going to come by with and stick into the machine ..i need a UNIVERSAL udev rule for all usb/firewire devices
[08:11] <NoUse> johnrork w00t
[08:11] <lucky_> bro~~~
[08:12] <saik0> ice, Flash 9 for win went into beta a couple days ago, so hopefuly it wont be long
[08:12] <eneried> hello?
[08:12] <rane_> why can't i login as root?
[08:12] <lucky_> this ubutu is someting gggggggggggoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
[08:12] <lucky_> :D
[08:12] <rane_> !root
[08:12] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:13] <eneried> please help me to configure my /etc/fstab file...
[08:13] <harisund> rane_ There is specifically no root account. All administrative activities are performed using the sudo command
[08:13] <sk8az> while installing skype i get :
[08:13] <sk8az>   Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[08:13] <sk8az>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[08:13] <sk8az>   , what should i do?
[08:13] <saik0> lucky_, we appreciate the sentiment, but this is a support channel.
[08:13] <Seveas> sk8az, install either of those packages
[08:13] <NoUse> sk8az read the wiki page
[08:13] <NoUse> !skype
[08:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[08:13] <MonsieurBon> I need gtk+ >=2.8.8 How do I get it??
[08:14] <takedown> Hi there, guys im updated from breezy to dapper and i have a problem with fglrx. Ok, i installed it via apt-get module was loading, but when i try to login with kdm i dont have 3d accelerate,but module is load. And if i run kde via startx all fine. Can anyone help me?
[08:14] <eneried> it seems nobody can read me
[08:15] <saik0> !tell takedown about dapper
[08:15] <sk8az> Seveas: how can i install those packedges?
[08:15] <Rug> eneried: can you be more specific about your problem?
[08:16] <khaladan> does Canonical have long-term viability? if they go away what happens to Ubuntu?
[08:16] <kronoz> well if they go away ubuntu dies ultimatley
[08:16] <khaladan> If I want to, can I recompile some packages, like apache, under ubuntu?
[08:16] <kronoz> but they don't seem to be going anywhere
[08:16] <eneried> Rug, i'm trying to automount  fat32 partitions, but i want full access, only rot can read tghem and cannot write :(
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> khaladan: The plan is to have Ubuntu be self-sufficient.  I don't know if it's there yet, but it should be soon.
[08:16] <kronoz> khaladan, yes, just install make, gcc et al
[08:17] <khaladan> and it won't mess up the package database or anything?
[08:17] <eneried> Rug, i'm trying to edit the fstab file, somebody does it before, but now i can't remember how :">
[08:17] <saik0> khaladan, you can download the source packages and recompile and install them
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> kronoz: You can get them all at once with the build-essential metapackage, btw.
[08:17] <kingspawn> eneried: mount it with options udask=0000 and fmask=0111
[08:17] <myleftfoot> hi, by default is gdm compiled with --enable-secureremote in ubuntu?
[08:18] <kingspawn> s/udask/umask
[08:18] <kingspawn> s/umask/dmask  <-- geez
[08:18] <eneried> thanks kingspawn, i'll try
[08:18] <kingspawn> Seveas: puh, needed
[08:19] <roy_> how can i get mo3 support in linux
[08:19] <kingspawn> !restrictedformats
[08:19] <ubotu> from memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:19] <roy_> i am new to it
[08:19] <kingspawn> roy_: ^^^^
[08:20] <scifi> hey guys just got my network switch, now able to get online via windows and linux :)
[08:20] <com4> When i update dapper, i get this error: xserver-xorg_7.0.0-0ubuntu31_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[08:20] <roy_> can anyone help me please
[08:20] <scifi> trying out gaim for the 1st time
[08:20] <Seveas> Rug, heh
[08:20] <kingspawn> roy_: read the link that ubotu just provided
[08:20] <com4> /tmp/xserver-xorg.config.64791: line 973: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[08:20] <Seveas> com4, known bug
[08:20] <Seveas> just wait for a fix
[08:20] <com4> Seveas: ok, thanks
[08:20] <saik0> !tell scifi about offtopic
[08:20] <eneried> kingspawn what's dmask?
[08:21] <kingspawn> eneried: mask applied to directories
[08:21] <roy_> ok thanks
[08:21] <eneried> ;)
[08:23] <eneried> kingspawn, what does umask=0000 and fmask=0111 means? it works :)
[08:23] <Jimmey__> saik0, I'm sorry
[08:24] <MM2> I wonder if MD5 sums are right for flight 6 i386 install packages? I got different MD5 hash.
[08:25] <kingspawn> eneried: they set permissions. the numbers are in octal
[08:25] <eneried> kingspawn, is it not better to say umask=0777?
[08:25] <gozz> will rhythmbox play shoutcast streams? i add the location to the .pls file but i cant get any of them to play?
[08:25] <Rug> What would it take to get sshd installed by default on Ubuntu?  I have a spare kidney that I'd be willing to part with (slightly pickled though) if ti helps.
[08:25] <eneried> kingspawn, but i don't understand what zeros means :(
[08:26] <_jason> Rug: why?
[08:26] <jimcooncat> Rug, I believe they wouldn't, no open ports policy
[08:26] <Rug> _jason: It's just my biggest (and only) pet-peeve about Ubuntu
[08:27] <Falc> Hi. I want to change my recently installed Ubuntu system so that X does not start at the beginning.
[08:27] <gozz> they play in totem on debian but totem wont work on ubuntu
[08:27] <_jason> Rug: but it only takes one command, not everyone wants to use ssh
[08:27] <Falc> I'd like it so that I have to start it manually- I do not want it uninstalled.
[08:27] <jimcooncat> Rug, hopefully they'll come through and make it easy to roll your own distro
[08:27] <HymnToLife> gozz> it does, you just need the right GStreamer plugins
[08:27] <Rug> hehe yes I know it's easy.
[08:27] <Jimmey__> Falc, try downloading BUM, maybe to can stop X from starting that way
[08:28] <kingspawn> eneried: 0000 means "everyone gets permissions"
[08:28] <gozz> i got the ones from apt-get
[08:28] <eneried> kingspawn, thanks ;)
[08:28] <Falc> Isn't there a configuration file or anything?
[08:28] <solan> hi, how do I update from Hoary to Breezy?
[08:28] <polpak> !upgrade
[08:28] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[08:28] <Jimmey__> Falc, probably, I just don't know of it
[08:28] <solan> thx;)
[08:28] <Falc> Ahh, okay.
[08:28] <polpak> Falc, just uninstall or disable gdm
[08:29] <roy_> where do i type this sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad for mpe format
[08:29] <HymnToLife> in a terminal
[08:29] <eneried> kingspawn, i set it in that way, but now i can't rename or modify files :(
[08:29] <_jason> roy_: applications > accessories > terminal
[08:29] <HymnToLife> aAlt+F2 > gnome-terminal
[08:29] <eneried> i canc opy and see
[08:29] <saik0> !tell Falc about wiki UbuntuBootupHowto
[08:29] <kingspawn> eneried: did you set umask or dmask?
[08:30] <roy_> oh i see thanks guys
[08:30] <eneried> i set "umask=0000,fmask=0000,dmask=0000"
[08:30] <Falc> How do I disable gdm?
[08:30] <kingspawn> eneried: dont set umask. and you can use fmask=000,dmask=000 (the forth digit isnt needed anymore)
[08:31] <_jason> Falc: system > administration > services, or man update-rc.d
[08:31] <roy_> it says it couldnt find the package
[08:31] <eneried> kingspawn, ok, i'll go and see :)
[08:31] <_jason> roy_: did you enable universe?
[08:31] <roy_> do i need to download
[08:31] <Falc> Okay, thank
[08:31] <saik0> !tell Falc about BUM
[08:31] <gozz> HymnToLife: i got the totem-gstreamer package do i also need gstreamer0.8-plugins
[08:31] <roy_> no
[08:31] <roy_> how do i do that
[08:31] <_jason> ubotu: tell roy_ about universe
[08:33] <azathor> Hola, tengo un problema de booteo con Ubuntu Dapper en un Notebook acer 351TEV
[08:33] <NikosGr> hi
[08:33] <saik0> !tell azathor about es
[08:33] <NikosGr> hihi
[08:33] <NikosGr> totem cannot play mp3 for me. why?
[08:33] <polpak> !tell NikosGr about mp3
[08:33] <|lostbyte|> dlink, linksys or robotics ? which one would you'll prefer as a wifi router ?
[08:33] <saik0> !tell NikosGr about restrictedformats
[08:33] <roy_> _jason how do i enable universe
[08:33] <|lostbyte|> !linksys
[08:33] <ubotu> If you have a Linksys or Netgear router please get your firmware update
[08:33] <azathor> el problema es que al bootea pero en un momento pierde conexion el lector y el sistema
[08:34] <Falc> Okay, maybe I'm in trouble here. 1) I cannot install anything, sudo fails to work (i couldn't get a solution for that anywhere) and 2) I can't change anything in services, sudo.
[08:34] <HymnToLife> !es
[08:34] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:34] <_jason> roy_: check your private messages from ubotu
[08:34] <|lostbyte|> !d-link
[08:34] <ubotu> |lostbyte|: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:34] <|lostbyte|> !dlink
[08:34] <ubotu> |lostbyte|: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:34] <HymnToLife> Falcwhat's wrong with sudo ?
[08:34] <_jason> !es
[08:34] <azathor> alguien puede ayudarme?
[08:34] <polpak> Falc, you need to type in your user password for sudo (assuming you are an administrator)
[08:34] <saik0> !tell |lostbyte| about fishing
[08:35] <_jason> azathor: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:35] <azathor> ok, thanks
[08:35] <rkz_> who could help with bitchx I cand find configuration files, my created .ircrc not work :/
[08:35] <Falc> I do type in my password, it fails to work.
[08:35] <Falc> I've tried root password, and user pssword. both fail to work repetedly.
[08:35] <Falc> .window 4
[08:35] <HymnToLife> falc > any error message ?
[08:35] <NikosGr> this is what i need? sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly ?
[08:36] <saik0> !tell NikosGr about dapper
[08:36] <_jason> NikosGr: are you using dapper?
[08:36] <Falc> No error messages whatsoever, ever.
[08:36] <NikosGr> yes
[08:36] <HymnToLife> that's weird...
[08:36] <HymnToLife> it just does nothing and get you back to the propmpt ?
[08:36] <|lostbyte|> saik0: does'nt replay to me in private, i dont know why :(..
[08:36] <_jason> Falc: paste the output of 'groups' please
[08:36] <Falc> It is weird.
[08:37] <polpak> Falc, use pastebin
[08:37] <Falc> How do I paste in a terminal? XP
[08:37] <NikosGr> way the package name is ugly? :)
[08:37] <Falc> Okay, I can do that...
[08:37] <saik0> NikosGr, try #ubuntu+1
[08:37] <NikosGr> ubuntu+l is specially for dapper drake userS?
[08:38] <_jason> Falc: just check if groups says you are in the 'admin' group then
[08:38] <eneried> kingspawn, can i make another question? i want to know how to use the reading,writing attributes of fat32 on ubuntu
[08:38] <ph8> no, that's not what the topic says :)
[08:38] <KoRniChe> Re
[08:38] <_jason> NikosGr: yes
[08:38] <KoRniChe> NoUse
[08:38] <kingspawn> eneried: hm?
[08:38] <_jason> NikosGr: actually, no.  It is +1 not +l
[08:38] <NoUse> KoRniChe yes
[08:39] <saik0> NikosGr, yes and this channel is specifically for breezy badger users
[08:39] <DBO> howdy saik0
[08:39] <KoRniChe> NoUse , i fixed my problem thx to norton ghost :p
[08:39] <Falc> _jason: Apparently not. How do I put myself in there?
[08:39] <NoUse> KoRniChe cool
[08:39] <NikosGr> ok
[08:39] <NikosGr> what dapper darke mean anyway?
[08:39] <_jason> Falc: is this the user you created during install and is this an expert install?
[08:39] <eneried> kingspawn, i'm looking my fat32 partition, there are a desktop.ini file, that's hidden on wondows, but here is visible, and there's an image that is readonly but here not, can i use the fat32 settings?
[08:40] <Falc> This is an expert install.
[08:40] <kingspawn> eneried: i would imagine so
[08:40] <DBO> NikosGr, it means free publicity along the lines of "what the heck does dapper drake mean?"
[08:40] <acetech> anyone know why I cannot get my flash drive out of read only mode...?  I have tried mounting with umask=0000, tried chown and chmod
[08:40] <_jason> Falc: so you have a root password and can su to root?
[08:40] <definity> how come my ubuntu has gone all laggy when i first installed it it was quite fast now i installed kde for about 3 months and slowly its been getting worse and worse, any ideas on how to speed it up
[08:40] <saik0> !tell NikosGr about wiki DevelopmentCodeNames
[08:41] <eneried> kingspawn, but you don't know how
[08:41] <kingspawn> eneried: wasn't that what we just talked about with dmask and fmask?
[08:41] <Elazar> Using Synaptic to do a complete removal of gPHPEdit doesn't seem to have gotten rid of the option I get to open it in the menu that appears when I right-click on a file. Any ideas on how I can do that?
[08:41] <Bog_> I'm using the livecd, is it possible to use a usb key to save all my session information?
[08:41] <NikosGr> DBO: ?
[08:41] <Falc> _jason: Yep. Sure can/.
[08:41] <NikosGr> i didnt got that
[08:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell Falc about expert
[08:41] <DBO> NikosGr, it was a bad joke, ignore me
[08:42] <Bog_> so when I reboot the docs on my desktop are still there, and settings are preserved
[08:42] <NikosGr> :)
[08:42] <eneried> kingspawn, ah, sorry :(
[08:42] <scifi> hey guys, just installed gparted, but when i right -click on a partition the resize option is unavailable
[08:42] <NoUse> scifi you can't resize while the drive is mouted
[08:43] <NoUse> scifi get the gparted livecd, its a nice small iso
[08:43] <mjschultz> i am using firefox for ubunto, and i was wordering if there is a plug in for wma streams
[08:43] <baconbacon> !w32codecs
[08:43] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:43] <_jason> mjschultz: mplayer with w32codecs I believe works
[08:43] <Elazar> I tried reinstalling it and doing a complete removal again to make sure that something odd didn't happen when I originally completely removed it, but the menu option is still there.
[08:43] <NoUse> mjschultz try mozilla-mplayer
[08:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell mjschultz about mplayer
[08:44] <mjschultz> thank you i forgot about that program..
[08:45] <scifi> NoUse: ok so i just need to unmount them, or how do i use the gparted iso?
[08:45] <NoUse> scifi you download the iso, burn it to a disc and boot from said disc
[08:46] <loststar4545> Hello when is 6.06 comming out
[08:46] <NoUse> !tell loststar4545 about dapper
[08:46] <scifi> NoUse: k kewl may try it sometime. (looks for option in gaim where he can press arrow keys to scroll to show previous sentence :P )
[08:47] <DBO> scifi, dont think you can do that in GAIM
[08:47] <loststar4545> if i download the latest flight should i  be fine when  the relase comes out or do i have to download again
[08:47] <DBO> loststar4545, you will be fine
[08:47] <scifi> DBO: doesnt look like it :P
[08:47] <baconbacon> scifi: ctrl+arrows
[08:48] <NoUse> loststar4545 if you keep updated it will install the final version when it comes out
[08:48] <DBO> really?
[08:48] <eneried> if chmod allow me to change permissions of a folder, how can i see the current ones?
[08:48] <DBO> sweet
[08:48] <scifi> bacon: ty
[08:48] <saik0> eneried, ls -l
[08:48] <Ace_B_747___> anyone know how to deal with a usb flash drive that will not mount of read only settings?
[08:48] <Falc> YES! Thank you _jason
[08:49] <_jason> Falc: np
[08:49] <eneried> thanks saik0
[08:49] <saik0> eneried, you got it
[08:49] <scifi> anyone managed to get counter-strike running in ubuntu using wine ?
[08:50] <NoUse> scifi if you google around you'll find some howtos
[08:50] <DBO> 1 or 2?
[08:50] <scifi> cus at the moment thats the only thing holding me back from using linux more
[08:50] <DBO> scifi, erm, dual boot?
[08:50] <iloadmin> how can I join a windows channel???
[08:51] <DBO> iloadmin, "/j #windows"
[08:51] <scifi> DBO: it is dual-boot system
[08:51] <Ace_B_747___> anyone know how to deal with a usb flash drive that will not mount of read only settings?
[08:51] <NoUse> iloadmin its actually ##windows
[08:51] <iloadmin> ty guys
[08:51] <DBO> NoUse, yeah, but #windows will dump to ##windows
[08:51] <NoUse> DBO ok
[08:54] <scifi> ok looking at a wine how to, 1st step, download deb files or use apt-get after adding wine repositories, how do i check i have wine repos added?
[08:55] <eneried> kingspawn, i found the error (^ ^), i can mopdify files inside folders in the partitions, but not on mounting points, i've just changed the mounting points permissions and all is working well, thanks a lot ;)
[08:55] <baconbacon> !wine
[08:55] <NoUse> scifi go to winehq.com they have a howto
[08:55] <baconbacon> bah
[08:57] <BearKnuckle> Can anyone explain why "glxgears" does not have a fps-output in dapper?
[08:57] <NoUse> BearKnuckle #ubuntu+1
[08:58] <Jowi> sawfish in the universe repo does not include sawfish-themer. the sources for sawfish 1.3 include it but I get some errors trying to compile it (AM_PATH_REP). anyone has a clue of how to fix that?
[08:58] <crimsun> Jowi: apt-get build-dep sawfish
[09:00] <Jowi> crimsun: thanks alot. will try it
[09:00] <kingspawn> eneried: my pleasure
[09:00] <scifi> it suggests using ubuntu backports to install latest wine, and links me to the ubuntu forum on how to enable them. this sound ok to do ?
[09:02] <NoUse> scifi I just use winehq.com's ubuntu repository
[09:02] <Jowi> crimsun: cool. i got a make file now :)
[09:02] <Coir> Ok, I have a problem.
[09:02] <Coir> err
[09:02] <sk8az> where can i download libstdc++5 library?
[09:02] <_jason> sk8az: apt-get
[09:02] <crimsun> !info libstdc++5
[09:02] <ubotu> libstdc++5: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section base, is optional. Version: 1:3.3.6-8ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 848 kB
[09:02] <runge> hi. are there any apps for handling ipods?
[09:02] <Coir> When running the "flurry" sceensaver, my desktop crashes - even when trying to change it in the Screensaver preferences menu. So, how can I do this via GUI?
[09:03] <Coir> err
[09:03] <_jason> !ipod
[09:03] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[09:03] <Coir> CLI
[09:03] <_jason> Coir: ~/.xscreensaver
[09:03] <zelevw> hi..when i try to connect to this channel from home it tells me im banned...i have no problem connecting from work...what could be the cause...its been like that since last friday...thx
[09:03] <runge> thanks _jason
[09:04] <mzinz> I need flash/shockwave player.  I read the restricted formats wiki and installed the Windows version of Firefox with Wine.  It says that I now must go to a website that requires the plugin and to download it... but how do I open firefox with wine again?
[09:04] <revAndrew> hey, sorry for the typical newbue question but how do I mount a FAT32 harddrive?
[09:04] <_jason> ubotu: tell revAndrew about vfat
[09:04] <_jason> revAndrew: you can also use system > administration > disks
[09:04] <revAndrew> thank you
[09:05] <sk8az> _jason : can you be a little more specific? what should i type, im a bit new ;] 
[09:05] <NoUse> !tell sk8az about synaptic
[09:05] <NoUse> sk8az use synaptic, just search for that package
[09:05] <eggzeck> sk8az: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[09:05] <_jason> sk8az: that file has the preferences stored in there, make a backup first (cp ~/.xscreensaver ~/.xscreensaver.backup) and then edit it (gedit ~/.xscreensaver)
[09:06] <_jason> sk8az: ha thought you were someone else, ignore me
[09:06] <Beru> BearKnuckle : try glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[09:06] <sk8az> ;] 
[09:06] <BearKnuckle> Beru: read it in #ubuntu+1, thanks!
[09:06] <eggzeck> sk8az: do what I said :)
[09:07] <zelevw> hi..when i try to connect to this channel from home it tells me im banned...i have no problem connecting from work...what could be the cause...its been like that since last friday...thx
[09:07] <Coir> _jason, when I open the ~/.xscreensaver, the file is blank
[09:07] <eneried> does anybody know how to hear mp3 in dapper? wich packages i must install?
[09:07] <_jason> Coir: hmm are you on breezy?
[09:07] <eggzeck> eneried: /j #ubuntu+1
[09:07] <mzinz> I used to use Gnome exclusively, then I made the switch to KDE.  Do I still need Gnome installed? Is there a way to remove it, along with *most* of the gnome programs?
[09:07] <Coir> _jason, Dapepr
[09:07] <roy_> hey thanks guys
[09:07] <Coir> Dapper*
[09:08] <_jason> Coir: dapper questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[09:08] <roy_> its working now
[09:08] <sambrista> hi! I have a lan internet conection and an usb wifi adapter from a laptop. When i active both in this computer, internet doesn't work. How can i fix it?
[09:08] <eneried> thanks eggzeck
[09:08] <roy_> thanks _jason and ubotu
[09:08] <scifi> wine 0.9.12 ok?
[09:08] <cpltnt303> hi all i have a quastion how do i install application like gnome to ubunto ?
[09:08] <NoUse> scifi should be
[09:09] <cpltnt303> for exsample i wanna install Gnome , there are millions of files in there ftp what is the extension i should be looking for ?
[09:10] <scifi> NoUse: when i go to install it i get a popup saying it cant be authenticated but allows me to install it anyway , that sound right?
[09:10] <NoUse> scifi yeah thats fine
[09:10] <eggzeck> you can do: rm -rf *~ (that would work)
[09:11] <unforcer> eggzeck: great
[09:11] <ConfidentiaL> how do I configure ubuntu to share files on a linux network?
[09:11] <saik0> !tell ConfidentiaL, about nfs
[09:11] <eggzeck> err, unforcer: that was meant for another channel! Don't do that, it deletes all backup files in current dir
[09:11] <zelevw> ConfidentiaL: system, administration, shared folders
[09:12] <saik0> !tell ConfidentiaL about nfs
[09:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cpltnt303: Do you want the complete Ubuntu desktop + application set, or just a minimal Gnome install?
[09:12] <unforcer> eggzeck: yeah I know that :D
[09:12] <scifi> NoUse: k package downloading now, only getting 10k tho ^^
[09:12] <GazzaK> Hi folks, does anyone know a plt file viewer for ubuntu?  I have a need to open a documentname.plt file (plt is a plot file - a cad drawing)
[09:12] <cpltnt303> Pumper YEAH the full ....
[09:12] <NoUse> scifi yeah wine's mirror gets slow sometimes
[09:12] <unforcer> eggzeck: there are lots of n00bs here :D
[09:12] <unforcer> so please no "rm -rf / with sudo"
[09:12] <scifi> 42k now :)
[09:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cpltnt303: the command to do that is 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[09:13] <eggzeck> unforcer: yeah, :)
[09:13] <nikos_> hi again
[09:13] <scifi> down to 84b/s now lol
[09:13] <nikos_> iam having major problems
[09:13] <nikos_> root@dell:/home/nikos/easyubuntu# gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:13] <nikos_> cannot open display: (null)
[09:13] <Dre> how do i install java on ubuntu?
[09:13] <cpltnt303> PuMpErNiCkLe u mean i dont need to download it ?
[09:13] <revAndrew> is there a way to change the name of a mounted hard drive on the desktop from the default "hda1" to another name such as "media"?
[09:13] <kingspawn> nikos_: nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:13] <Jowi> crimsun: hmm, looks like i need rep-gtk libglade wrapper. can't find any such thing in the repos.
[09:14] <cpltnt303> PuMpErNiCkLe just go into the terminal and input the command ?
[09:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cpltnt303: That command downloads everythign pre-packaged from the repository and installs it automatically.  Convenient, simple, safe. :)
[09:14] <scifi> revAndrew: not easily, i tried symlinks and a ntfsprogs, both had problems :P
[09:14] <nikos_> kingspawn: nano works but what happend to edit
[09:14] <nikos_> and what this cnnot find dipaly error iam getting?
[09:14] <cpltnt303> im maybe new to linux BUT DAMN thats awsume Q!@(*&!#@!
[09:15] <scifi> NoUse: getting this error now: W: Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.12~winehq1-1_i386.deb
[09:15] <scifi>   Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection
[09:15] <NoUse> scifi just keep running it until you get the whole file
[09:15] <kingspawn> nikos_: good question. can you start other gui-applications from the terminal?
[09:15] <NoUse> scifi i get the same problem
[09:15] <Dre> how do i install java on ubuntu?
[09:15] <revAndrew> scifi: so short answer "no" and l;ong answer "yes with a but"?
[09:15] <NoUse> !java
[09:15] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:16] <cpltnt303> PuMpErNiCkLe it says ubunto is already in full mode...
[09:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cpltnt303: Most 'desktop' linux distributions have a feature like that.  Ubuntu has apt-get, RedHat has Yum, Arch has Pacman, I forget what SuSe has but it's very similar.
[09:16] <Dre> thanks
[09:16] <nikos_> E: Malformed line 10 in source list /home/nikos/easyubuntu/conf/sources.list (URI)
[09:16] <nikos_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[09:16] <scifi> revAndrew: yeh im sure someone in here with more knowledge can take u thru it
[09:16] <nikos_> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[09:16] <cpltnt303> PuMpErNiCkLe thanks ... any hows ... it says i already have it ...
[09:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cpltnt303: Uh... did you do a standard install?  If so, you already have Gnome.
[09:16] <nikos_> what this? i dotn understand
[09:16] <cpltnt303> PuMpErNiCkLe Oh really thats gr8 so where do i change themes ?
[09:16] <nikos_> i just wanted to run easyubuntu
[09:17] <scifi> NoUse: will it resume from where it stopped or start from beginning ?
[09:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cpltnt303: System menu -> preferences -> theme
[09:17] <NoUse> scifi it will resume
[09:17] <nikos_> plz help me out
[09:17] <_nano_> Hi I'm having trouble in enabling direct rendering....need help
[09:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cpltnt303: You can get more from gnome-look.org
[09:17] <_nano_> !3d
[09:17] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _nano_
[09:18] <cpltnt303> PuMpErNiCkLe thanks , i'm now learning the shell u got any more good site or subject to learn inside this linux ?
[09:18] <scifi> NoUse: kewl resuming @ 80k
[09:18] <nikos_> NoUse: can u help?
[09:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cpltnt303: Nothing in particular... the wiki has guides on a lot of stuff, so if you get stuck, or want to know more about anything, it's a good place to start.
[09:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !wiki
[09:18] <scifi> revAndrew: ask ur question again so a proper techie will see it
[09:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hm
[09:19] <nikos_> gedit
[09:19] <cpltnt303> ok thanks can i have the url since this a new computer i got NONE URLS ..
[09:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wiki.ubuntu.com anyway :)
[09:19] <NoUse> nikos_ I've never used easyubuntu
[09:19] <nikos_> whats the drake channel again?
[09:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> #ubuntu+1
[09:19] <nikos_> ubuntu+l ?
[09:19] <nikos_> ah +1
[09:20] <Keytwo> ciao a tutti
[09:20] <i3dmaster> how to config shortcuts in KDE?
[09:21] <cpltnt303> PuMpErNiCkLe btw i'm working with an old laptop is ubunto easy install would work smother ?
[09:21] <NoUse> i3dmaster when you drag a file, when you releae the file you get the option to make a link
[09:21] <scifi> NoUse: ok it downloaded and i assume installed
[09:21] <Keytwo> hey guys is there someone who have problem with gam_server?
[09:21] <NoUse> scifi cool
[09:22] <i3dmaster> NoUse, not for that, I want to config some shortcuts for launch apps
[09:22] <noppo> people, where can i change my Desktop manager from GNOME to fluxbox?
[09:22] <scifi> NoUse: now just looking for the CS howto
[09:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cpltnt303: Possibly easyubuntu could help.  There are some options you can set to optimize performance, too, and there's also Xubuntu, which is based on Xfce instead of Gnome, which makes it more lightweight.
[09:22] <NoUse> i3dmaster right-click -> create link to application
[09:23] <cpltnt303> PuMpErNiCkLe thanks
[09:23] <Profichilla> noppo: sudo apt-get install fluxbox and then just select it on login.
[09:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cpltnt303: np :)
[09:23] <noppo> ok, thx, gonna try
[09:24] <loststar4545> is a nvidia 5500 good enough to run ubuntu
[09:24] <i3dmaster> NoUse, well that is really not what I want. I thought there was a place to config keyboard shortcuts..
[09:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> loststar4545: Definitely.
[09:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> i3dmaster: like in System -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts ?
[09:25] <noppo> didn't help
[09:25] <Keytwo> May I pose a question?
[09:25] <noppo> there was no menu to select the Window manager
[09:25] <i3dmaster> PuMpErNiC, let me take a look there
[09:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Keytwo: You already did.  You may, however, ask another. :)
[09:25] <NoUse> i3dmaster settings -> Accessibility
[09:26] <Keytwo> sure I do ^^: is there someone else (over me) who have problems with gam_server (gamin)?
[09:27] <Omeg> Hi all. My updater says that it is "Analysing" my system. Since I'm not running UK English as my Ubuntu language, shouldn't it be saying "Analyzing"?
[09:27] <jeff303> is there a quick way to find out the full path called by a command?  ex: I have multiple JREs installed and I want to know which is getting called by doing just "javac"?
[09:27] <Keytwo> It spreads out about 33% of my CPU time... -.-"
[09:27] <Keytwo> jeff303: which <command>
[09:28] <jeff303> Keytwo: I'd like to know in general, but in this specific case, javac
[09:28] <jeff303> Keytwo: since I have many "javac"s installed - sun, GCJ, etc.
[09:28] <noppo> jeff303, which javac
[09:28] <i3dmaster> NoUse, PuMpErNiC, sorry don't see those. Im using 3.5.2 and not familiar with it (was just off from gnome)
[09:28] <noppo> obviously
[09:28] <jeff303> noppo: that's what I'm trying to figure out
[09:28] <cpltnt303> I need Internet Explorer 6 Based browser in order to run a certain web site that dont work with Firefox ,What other options do i have for linux ?
[09:28] <Keytwo> try "ps aux" you'll have a complete list of tasks with the arguments passed
[09:28] <jeff303> noppo: I can always do javac -version or something but that doesn't answer my question in general
[09:29] <noppo> jeff303, type 'which javac' at the terminal
[09:29] <trainer> is there a keyboard shortcut for switching between workspaces?
[09:29] <jeff303> noppo: ooh ok
[09:29] <jeff303> noppo: perfect, thank you
[09:29] <noppo> jeff303, thank Keytwo
[09:29] <go1dfish> are the repositories dead?
[09:29] <cpltnt303> I need Internet Explorer 6 Based browser in order to run a certain web site that dont work with Firefox ,What other options do i have for linux ?
[09:29] <revAndrew> ubuntu is a debian derivitive, right? so if I want to install a program I download the debian version?
[09:30] <jeff303> Keytwo: thanks
[09:30] <damotor> hi
[09:30] <Keytwo> np ^^
[09:30] <noppo> :)
[09:30] <go1dfish> revAndrew: if there is no debian specific version that is generally your best bet
[09:30] <jeff303> cpltnt303: there is a way to install IE6 using Wine, I've done it before
[09:30] <go1dfish> err ubuntu* specific
[09:30] <NoUse> i3dmaster in the KMenu, there is a settings option
[09:30] <jeff303> cpltnt303: don't remember the specifics, though, sorry
[09:30] <jeff303> cpltnt303: I'm sure you can google it
[09:30] <damotor> do u know about a program to find coincidences between two images?
[09:30] <cpltnt303> what i s Wine ?
[09:30] <i3dmaster> ok, found it. Its under Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard shortcuts
[09:30] <i3dmaster> thanks for help
[09:30] <patrick_king> how do i ssh in to my sql
[09:31] <noppo> could somebody PLEASE tell me how to change my Desktop manager - i would like to use fluxbox instead of GNOME
[09:31] <NoUse> !wine
[09:31] <scifi> NoUse: do i just type "wine" in terminal to run it for the first time?
[09:31] <noppo> !x
[09:31] <ubotu> I heard x is a portable, network-transparent window system.
[09:31] <noppo> !fluxbox
[09:31] <ubotu> hmm... fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[09:31] <NoUse> scifi wine file.exe
[09:31] <Keytwo> patrick_king: ssh in your remote host then mysql
[09:31] <jeff303> cpltnt303: look at the first few hits for   "internet explorer" ubuntu    on google
[09:32] <loststar4545> how does fluxbox compare to gnome
[09:32] <patrick_king> i dont think i have ssh open how do i do this
[09:32] <noppo> loststar4545, that's what I'm trying to figure out by experimenting
[09:32] <jeff303> patrick_king: ssh username@server
[09:32] <jeff303> patrick_king: from the command line
[09:33] <loststar4545> i tried gnome and kde so far i prefer gnome
[09:33] <noppo> loststar4545, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[09:33] <runge> _jason, the ipod-fix-page worked very nicely. thanks very much!
[09:33] <_jason> runge: great
[09:33] <mzinz> I used to use Gnome exclusively, then I made the switch to KDE.  Do I still need Gnome installed? Is there a way to remove it, along with *most* of the gnome programs?
[09:33] <loststar4545> what do you guys use
[09:34] <_jason> anyone happen to know how to make openoffice writer update text so that it has 2 spaces after a period if it only has 1 now?
[09:34] <go1dfish> is anyone else having trouble updating?
[09:34] <noppo> loststar4545, the page says that fluxbox requires less RAM, but has less features than GNOME or KDE
[09:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> _jason: search and replace ". " with ".  "
[09:34] <noppo> loststar4545, at the moment i'm using gnome, just because it was the default window manager for ubuntu
[09:34] <jeff303> PuMpErNiCkLe: lol
[09:34] <_jason> PuMpErNiCkLe: hehe yes thanks
[09:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> np :)
[09:35] <alamba> hi all....looking for some exim on ubuntu help...not able to figure out how I could capture all mails for a given virtual domain
[09:36] <cpltnt303> I need help installing Wine i'm in the download url but i dont know what to do ...
[09:37] <cpltnt303> I need help installing Wine i'm in the download url but i dont know what to do ... where is synaptic Package Manager
[09:37] <runge> _jason, there is an error in the page you showed me. who do I talk to to change it? (one place says "mnt" instead of "media")
[09:37] <NoUse> !tell cpltnt303 about synaptic
[09:37] <_jason> runge: you may edit that page yourself, it's a wiki :)
[09:37] <runge> _jason, uhm.. ignore me while I go and beat my self
[09:38] <scifi> NoUse: did u do this transgaming activex control part, or just use the default activex that comes with firefox ?
[09:39] <NoUse> scifi I don't remember needing that
[09:39] <NoUse> scifi the last time I ran CS through wine was probably 2-3 years ago
[09:40] <scifi> grrr keep closing tabs by accident in gaim :P
[09:41] <simonpca> plop
[09:41] <jeff303> cpltnt303: google for "winteools" there is a GUI in that program which will install everything (including IE) and put a shortcut right on your desktop
[09:42] <_jason> !info winetools
[09:42] <_jason> guess not
[09:42] <sys8794> could I package captive-nfts and include it in a fapper flight?
[09:42] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[09:42] <_jason> sys8794: ask in #ubuntu-motu perhaps
[09:42] <sys8794> _jason thanks
[09:43] <Keytwo> is there a way to make gam_server avoid spread out so much CPU time?
[09:43] <Zoohouse> Whats a quick tool that I can use to create a FAT32 filesystem on another drive?
[09:43] <jeff303> Zoohouse: try gparted or qtparted?
[09:43] <jouellette> my Xorg is using 2.6 GB or ram... is there a special reason for that?
[09:44] <jeff303> jouellette: is it all resident?
[09:44] <Zoohouse> jeff303, thanks
[09:44] <Keytwo> Zoohouse: type 'man mkfs' in terminal
[09:44] <Zoohouse> Keytwo, k
[09:44] <Keytwo> ;)
[09:44] <Zoohouse> ill check it out
[09:44] <jouellette> jeff303, yeah
[09:45] <jeff303> jouellette: holy crap... sorry don't know how to help you there
[09:46] <_jason> jouellette: wow, how much ram do you have?
[09:46] <jouellette> jeff303, I do have 4 gigs and and 10 gig of swap
[09:46] <_jason> 10gigs of swap
[09:46] <immolo> 10gigs of swap
[09:46] <immolo> haha
[09:46] <immolo> I'm going to piss myself
[09:47] <Zoohouse> gparted is nice :)
[09:47] <jouellette> It'
[09:47] <jouellette> It's a Dual xeon too... It's my work PC
[09:47] <_jason> jouellette: is that 2.6 gb of resident memory?
[09:48] <immolo> jouellette, could you paste bin the output of free -m as I would really like to see what it says
[09:49] <jouellette>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[09:49] <jouellette> Mem:          3671       3544        126          0         16        311
[09:49] <jouellette> -/+ buffers/cache:       3216        455
[09:49] <jouellette> Swap:         9275         78       9197
[09:49] <scifi> NoUse: cant navigate to "/.wine/drive_c/Program Files" in terminal, can navigate to /.wine/drive_c/ but then it says cant find Program files directory ^^
[09:49] <NoUse> scifi you need to escape the space: cd Program\ Files
[09:50] <scifi> NoUse: i tried an * in the back and that worked :)
[09:50] <bkeating> is LVM volumes like.. "JOBOD config?"
[09:50] <bkeating> er.. *are* LVM volumes
[09:50] <immolo> jouellette, well you are wasting 9.6Gb but ram is being wasted somewhere
[09:50] <Jimmey__> Guys and Gals, I've followed the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter, but am still unable to send print jobs ( sucessfully ) to my HP Deskjet 810c
[09:50] <Jimmey__> Any ideas?
[09:51] <scifi> back = gap*
[09:51] <jouellette> yeah... I have tomcat and Eclipse running and it seems like java is using about 1.5 gb for it
[09:51] <immolo> ah java that explains all
[09:51] <jeff303> scifi: if you're trying to run a command from your terminal just use tab for all those messy wine autocompletions
[09:51] <jouellette> but it still doesn't explain why xorg is using so much
[09:51] <jeff303> scifi: makes it a breeze to navigate lovely Windows spaced directories  :-)
[09:52] <Hurin> Hello
[09:52] <immolo> jouellette, tryed running top?
[09:52] <jimcooncat> Jimmey__, are you sure XP has printer shared?
[09:52] <NoUse> jouellette does X use that much when it first starts, or does it grow?
[09:52] <jouellette> it grows...
[09:52] <immolo> see how much memory it is reallly using
[09:52] <jouellette> NoUse, you think it's a leak
[09:52] <scifi> jeff303: not sure what u mean but thx
[09:53] <jouellette> TOP says 2.5g
[09:53] <immolo> scifi, if you press the tab button it autocompletes the word
[09:53] <NoUse> jouellette possibly, I'd report it the xorg people, they would know if its a bug or not
[09:53] <Zoohouse> humm..
[09:54] <NoUse> jouellette there is a #xorg channel here
[09:55] <jeff303> scifi: just try pressing tab after you're typed part of the path, and if there is a unique completion, it will get filled in for you
[09:55] <jose> hello there can any one point me to a good page about wireless networking??
[09:55] <Hurin> I have the question about ethernet connection, if it's ok?
[09:56] <Jimmey__> jimcooncat, I'm sure, in the control panel, printers are shared..
[09:56] <jeff303> scifi: if there is more than one unique completion, pressing tab repeatedly will show you a list of all the possibilities
[09:56] <scifi> kewl thanks
[09:56] <Hurin> (I have notebook, hp nx6110 with Ubuntu Breezy on it)
[09:57] <Hurin> eth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX. - doeas ANYONE knows what does that mean, and how I can resolve this problem
[09:57] <Hurin> ??
[09:57] <Hurin> Because of it, I can't connect to internet
[09:58] <n0rus> apt-get install <what?> to get headers like "stdio.h, stdint.h etc."
[09:58] <moparfan90> how do you paste in aterm?
[09:59] <jeff303> n0rus: libstdC++
[09:59] <jeff303> n0rus: something like that
[09:59] <NoUse> n0rus you can search that kind of stuff at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:00] <jeff303> n0rus: libc6 and libc6-dev for the straight up C stuff
[10:00] <Hurin> moparfan, use middle-click
[10:00] <d3v> hello, I've got a little problem with the Live CD with the error "[!!]  Enter preinstalled session when it is booting up
[10:00] <judah> xserver-org package is broken:  /tmp/xserver-xorg.config.177961: line 973: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[10:00] <judah> 13:03:48 @        judah | xserver-xorg failed to preconfigure, with exit status 2
[10:00] <judah> fyi
[10:01] <burninglegion> can anyone help me with booting the ubuntu 5.10 live cd?
[10:02] <d3v> burninglegion, do you have a similar problem to mine?
[10:02] <DBO> what is the problem?
[10:02] <obscurite> Is perl/CPAN broken on breezy? I can't install perl modules properly as root or via sudo with perl -MCPAN -e
[10:02] <burninglegion> well, after the loading screen at the part where it says "loading gnome window manager"
[10:02] <burninglegion> my computer just stalls
[10:02] <nikos_> hello
[10:03] <burninglegion> oh yeah, i also have my monitor plugged into a nvidia geforce2 video card
[10:03] <burninglegion> if that is of any help
[10:03] <nikos_> does /run ls works for you guys through irssi?
[10:03] <heero> hello, anyone know how remove the all packages installed in ubuntu?
[10:03] <heero> i want upgrade
[10:03] <heero> but im still having problems with dependences
[10:03] <NoUse> !tell heero about upgrade
[10:03] <d3v> http://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/2005/synaptic-remove-all-packages-dialogue.jpg
[10:03] <heero> :O
[10:04] <Zoohouse> Qucik question, I have ubuntu on sda and I want to install winxp on sdb. Prior to wanting to install win xp on sdb I had fedora on sda and ubuntu on sdb. Now when I pop in the winxp cd it says that there is no hard drives intalled on my computer... The same computer i am typing from.. What might it be? Does sdb need to be fat32 so that winxp would pick it up?
[10:04] <judah> disregard which is already disregarded.. dist-upgrade installed things without error. please move along.
[10:04] <jeff303> Zoohouse: I believe Windows insists on installing itself on the first partition
[10:04] <Jimmey__> Zoohouse, XP always wants to be on the first drive of your computer
[10:05] <parpic2002> hi
[10:05] <obscurite> nevermind, figure it out.
[10:05] <scifi> NoUse: steam installing now :O *crosses fingers*
[10:05] <Zoohouse> jeff303, Jimmey__ so I have to install winxp first? I tried to do it first but it wouldn't pick up the drives
[10:05] <sys8794> Zoohouse however if you wipe (fdsik and format) sdb and then your xp should see that section and install to it (in theory it should)
[10:05] <harisund> nikos_ I was just wondering about your question.
[10:05] <DBO> Zoohouse, SATA drives?
[10:05] <jeff303> Zoohouse: it's easist if you install Windows XP first on a clean drive (before any other partitions)
[10:05] <harisund> nikos_ What is /run ls supposed to be doing anyway?
[10:06] <harisund> You should have a script named ls for that, right?
[10:06] <Zoohouse> DBO, right, I have 2 SATA drives
[10:06] <DBO> Zoohouse, do you have the floppy disk your mobo came with?  You need that for windows to detect them
[10:06] <|lostbyte|> What gui tool you guys use to do wifi networking ?
[10:06] <Zoohouse> DBO, motherboard?
[10:07] <harisund> |lostbyte| I use the command line .. sorry :(
[10:07] <bungle> how do i install xfce
[10:07] <DBO> Zoohouse, yeah, its a big green (usually) thing with all the fancy doodads on it, usually comes with a driver disk for the SATA drives (floppy)
[10:07] <bungle> !xfce
[10:07] <ubotu> well, xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[10:07] <|lostbyte|> harisund: Ok ! i like the command line too.. =_
[10:08] <Zoohouse> DBO, ah ok, never heard someone call the M.B by mobo lol
[10:08] <Zoohouse> ok let me go check brb
[10:08] <DBO> really?
[10:08] <harisund> bungle for xfce, you can install a meta package "xubuntu-desktop", either through command line or through synaptic.
[10:08] <|lostbyte|> harisund: Q. How to set an essid for your card ?
[10:08] <immolo> iwconfig <iface> essid <insert essid here>
[10:09] <harisund> |lostbyte|, Assuming your wireless card is wlan0, I use the following command "sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed essid NameEssid key 12...."
[10:09] <harisund> |lostbyte| and then to get a IP address, I use "sudo dhclient wlan0" and that generally works for me.
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> immolo: harisund Hold on ! :S i was told by #wireless that that command is used to connect to the essid specified ? are you sure...
[10:10] <Zoohouse> DBO, can't find it in the box, let me check the site.
[10:10] <_jim_> im having problems with synaptic
[10:10] <harisund> |lostbyte| Yes, why do you ask? Was there a problem trying that out?
[10:10] <DBO> Zoohouse, what mobo?
[10:11] <immolo> |lostbyte|, not unless my linux box is so clever it can do things by itself
[10:11] <|lostbyte|> harisund: huh ? no, but my question was how i could set an essid for my card !
[10:11] <_jim_> i finally made it working , but when installing something i get this error every time : E: locales: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 4
[10:11] <CraiZE> hey, how can i convert my video files to the PSP format?
[10:11] <harisund> The command that immolo suggested. iwcofig <interface_name> essid <essid_name>
[10:11] <_jim_> what should i do ?
[10:11] <immolo> CraiZE, cvs ffmpeg
[10:11] <CraiZE> ah
[10:11] <|lostbyte|> immolo: My card does'nt have an essid as i found out through iwconfig.
[10:11] <CraiZE> immolo, you got a link
[10:12] <CraiZE> for me to get cvs ffmpeg?
[10:12] <harisund> |lostbyte| You will have to associate your card with a wireless access point. The command for that is the one that immolo gave.
[10:12] <immolo> CraiZE, not for the cvs on ubuntu but I know the windows version has been ported back to unix which gives better quailty
[10:12] <Oetmet> I have a Core Duo processor and I've read i got to download a kernel with SMP support
[10:13] <CraiZE> immolo, well i just want to convert it
[10:13] <CraiZE> you said cvs ffmpeg
[10:13] <Oetmet> can i download the regular kernel and enable SMP on it ?
[10:13] <CraiZE> but i cant do much with that info
[10:13] <CraiZE> :S
[10:13] <Oetmet> 2.6.16.11
[10:13] <Oetmet> or do i have to download an special kernel
[10:13] <immolo> use cvs and download, configure/make
[10:13] <immolo> easy :P
[10:13] <CraiZE> oh my
[10:13] <CraiZE> can you link me
[10:14] <CraiZE> to the ffmpeg CVS ?
[10:14] <|lostbyte|> harisund: This is going over my head, Wait.. so your saying to get an essid for me(wlan0), i have to connect to the Access point.
[10:14] <immolo> use google
[10:14] <harisund> |lostbyte| ok let me walk you through this one.
[10:14] <CraiZE> k
[10:14] <_jim_> hey guys , please , can you help me when you can ?
[10:14] <gean> bye all ! may the spirit of ubuntu be with u !
[10:14] <_jim_> cya
[10:14] <|lostbyte|> harisund: :) ..
[10:14] <Zoohouse> DBO, can't find it on the asus site...
[10:15] <harisund> |lostbyte| You have a wireless router right? It creates a wireless network, with a name that you specify. That name is the essid.
[10:15] <DBO> Zoohouse, well, i promise it came with a floppy disk, they all do.  Ive never seen a SATA mobo that didnt
[10:15] <Zoohouse> I used gparted to make sdb fat32.. thought that would help
[10:15] <harisund> |lostbyte| The router acts as a access point, meaning other computers "access" the internet by connecting to the router.
[10:15] <DBO> Zoohouse, its not even picking up the drives right?
[10:15] <jeff303> Zoohouse: I think that what Linux calls /dev/hda1 needs to be FAT or NTFS
[10:15] <harisund> |lostbyte| So for your computer to wireless connect to the internet, you have to tell it what network it should connect to, right?
[10:16] <jeff303> Zoohouse: otherwise the dumb Microsoft installer will think there is nowhere to install Windows
[10:16] <DBO> jeff303, so long as the windows isntaller can pick up the drives, it can edit the partions regardless of their current state of formatting
[10:16] <DBO> (it might destroy the data, but it can do it)
[10:16] <|lostbyte|> harisund: yes.. ok
[10:16] <|lostbyte|> ok
[10:17] <harisund> |lostbyte| Your router might be the access point for a network called "lostbyte" .. your neighbour might have a wireless router that generates the network "neighbour"
[10:17] <Zoohouse> jeff303, oh?
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> harisund: k
[10:17] <harisund> |lostbyte| and so on..if you want to see a list of wireless networks that your wireless card can pick up, execute the command "iwlist wlan0 scan | grep ESSID"
[10:17] <Zoohouse> DBO, not picking any up. It tells me to try turning them on
[10:17] <harisund> |lostbyte| that command will list out all the networks that your wireless card can see (which are generally the networks around your house...)
[10:18] <|lostbyte|> harisund: k
[10:18] <DBO> Zoohouse, yeah, you need that floppy disk.  It will say RAID drivers or something of that sort
[10:18] <harisund> |lostbyte| Now you need to tell your wireless card what network to connect to. In other words, you need to tell it what "access point" to connect to. right?
[10:18] <Zoohouse> ill look agin
[10:18] <|lostbyte|> harisund: yes..
[10:18] <DBO> Zoohouse, when windows installer is just starting it will ask you to press F6 at some point, you do that, then later down the road it will ask for that floppy
[10:18] <harisund> |lostbyte| That is, if you remember the ESSID. So you first tell it the name of the essid.
[10:18] <|lostbyte|> harisund: ok
[10:19] <harisund> |lostbyte| the syntax for that is "iwconfig wlan0 essid lostbyte"
[10:19] <harisund> "iwconfig" calls the wireless- configuration program. wlan0 is the "code-word" for your wireless card (it could be different.) essid is the command for it, and lostbyte is the name of the network it should join.
[10:19] <|lostbyte|> harisund: got it.. and if another pc scans what will it display as my name ?
[10:20] <Stormchaser> 'lo... Where can I find Drapper repository (want to upgrade my ubuntu)
[10:20] <kbrooks> How do I find out my CD drive speed?
[10:20] <harisund> You mean if somebody else is trying to access your wireless?
[10:20] <|lostbyte|> harisund: so the router is in adhoc mode and i am in managed..
[10:20] <Stormchaser> kbrooks: o.O
[10:20] <guerra> anyone programs in fortran therE?
[10:20] <Zoohouse> DBO, doesn't ask me for a floppy...
[10:20] <kbrooks> Stormchaser: ?
[10:20] <Zoohouse> unless i didn't see it
[10:21] <harisund> lostbyte: I am not sure what adhoc mode is, but generally wireless routers are not in ad hoc mode (atleast not by default) .. I think you have to make sure the router is also in managed mode only.
[10:21] <Stormchaser> kbrooks: Um... That should be written on the CD itself...
[10:21] <DBO> Zoohouse, at the VERY beginning there will be a part where at the bottom it will say "press F6 if you need to install additional drivers" or something to that effect
[10:21] <kbrooks> Stormchaser: "CD drive speed"
[10:21] <DBO> you press F6 then, and then it will ask you for a floppy about 10 minutes later
[10:22] <ccc_> Stormchaser: just change 'breezy' to 'dapper' (not drapper :) ) in your /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:22] <kbrooks> Stormchaser: on the cd? i havent heard of such a CD that shows that
[10:22] <harisund> |lostbyte| but yes, by executing "iwconfig wlan0 mode managed" you ask your wireless card to be in managed mode.
[10:22] <Zoohouse> DBO, i might have overlooked that
[10:22] <|lostbyte|> harisund: ok ! i understand now..
[10:22] <|lostbyte|> harisund: Is it easy to set the pc to adhoc mode ?
[10:22] <Oetmet> I have a core duo processor... and have read i have to download a SMP enabled kernel.. is this the same than downloading the regular kernel and enabling SMP support?
[10:22] <Oetmet> o
[10:22] <Oetmet> or i just have to apt-get the smp kernel
[10:23] <kbrooks> Oetmet: apt-get it
[10:23] <harisund> |lostbyte| I think so, but I don't know the command for that. If you want your wireless router to broadcast IP address, and you are using it to connect to the internet, you need managed mode.
[10:23] <Oetmet> kbrooks: ok but once i download it, it will boot as the default kernel?
[10:23] <Oetmet> or what?
[10:23] <_jim_> hey guys , i cant run some tools like synaptic by Gnome
[10:23] <moparfan90> hello. does anyone know if theres a channel for openbox?
[10:23] <|lostbyte|> harisund: Alright.. ok..
[10:23] <_jason> _jim_: what happens when you try?
[10:23] <kbrooks> Oetmet: it will show as a entry in grub
[10:23] <harisund> |lostbyte| I think ad hoc mode is more of a device-device connection, kind of temporary, stuff like blue tooth etc .. typically for multiplayer gaming (atleast that['s what wikipedia says)
[10:23] <_jim_> it aint running
[10:23] <_jim_> nothing happens
[10:23] <kbrooks> Oetmet: apt-get will install it for you
[10:24] <_jim_> its like it trying to load it
[10:24] <_jason> _jim_: what does 'sudo echo hi' do in a terminal?
[10:24] <|lostbyte|> harisund: Makes sence now..
[10:24] <Oetmet> linux-686-smp is ok for Core Duo's ?
[10:24] <|lostbyte|> harisund: thanks so much..
[10:24] <_jim_> it does nothing
[10:24] <_jim_> run as root ?
[10:24] <Oetmet> it says PIV, when I thought Core Duos are like PVII
[10:24] <Oetmet> heh
[10:24] <harisund> |lostbyte| Of course, it doesn't end there. Once you have set your wireless card parameters, you will need to instruct the wireless card to ask the router for an IP address.
[10:24] <_jason> _jim_: paste the output as 'groups' please
[10:24] <harisund> |lostbyte| which is done using the "sudo dhclient wlan0" command. Get it?
[10:24] <_jason> _jim_: s/as/of
[10:25] <|lostbyte|> harisund: What if i am not using dhcp..
[10:25] <_jim_> jason sorry im not getting u
[10:25] <_jason> _jim_: type 'groups', it is a command.  Then copy and paste the output so we can see it
[10:25] <harisund> |lostbyte| Hmm.... How are you connecting to your router?
[10:25] <_jim_> ok , by root ?
[10:25] <_jason> _jim_: no, no root
[10:25] <_jim_> jimoupas@10:~$ groups
[10:25] <_jim_> jimoupas adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[10:26] <|lostbyte|> harisund: oh.. ok ok.. got you.. but if i keep a static ip for my router..
[10:26] <_jason> _jim_: is this the first user created during install?
[10:26] <sambagirl> did seveas quit ubuntu? like bob2?
[10:26] <mwe> no admin there
[10:26] <_jim_> yes
[10:26] <|lostbyte|> harisund: then i dont have to do the dhclient.
[10:26] <_jason> _jim_: did you do an expert install?
[10:26] <harisund> |lostbyte| What exactly do you mean "static IP for my router"?
[10:26] <_jim_> yes
[10:26] <sambagirl> sirkillalot you played ET yes?
[10:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell _jim_ about expert
[10:26] <harisund> |lostbyte| With wireless the general practice is dhcp only. If you want your machine to have a static IP, you set that in the router/
[10:26] <Seveas> sambagirl, no
[10:27] <|lostbyte|> harisund: If i turn off dhcp on my router.. that is..
[10:27] <sambagirl> ohh hello seveas
[10:27] <|lostbyte|> harisund: ok
[10:27] <Seveas> sambagirl, I'm just very busy with bugs
[10:27] <harisund> |lostbyte| If you turn off the DHCP in your router.. hmmm.. I am not sure if it would work.. you could try .. never tried that before.
[10:27] <_jim_> _jason run this as root ?
[10:27] <Oetmet> Anyone using a Core Duo processor on Linux?
[10:27] <_jason> _jim_: yes
[10:27] <sambagirl> well you better get some bug spray and go to hospital fast for protection and i would avoid those types of associations too ;).
[10:28] <_jim_> _jason god bless you man!
[10:28] <jason> thanks?
[10:29] <sambagirl> is seveas a programmer for ubuntu?
[10:29] <MM2> I hate this: dapper installer installed a system with no user accounts. I rebootet to maintenache-mode and added password to root and an account. But things are wrong...
[10:29] <sambagirl> is there anything really really super exciting coming up for the next release of Ubuntu?
[10:29] <Seveas> sambagirl, not really, I write occasional patches and have made a few packages
[10:30] <Zoohouse> DBO,  VIA VT8237 SATA RAID 64-bit driver v4.30C (WHQL). Thats it?
[10:30] <jason> can you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?
[10:30] <_jim_> _jason , i tried to install something by synaptic but im getting this error : E: locales: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 4
[10:30] <kbrooks> sambagirl: seveas doesnt really code
[10:30] <kbrooks> Seveas: few? don't you mean many?
[10:30] <sambagirl> well who is the leader for Ubuntu?
[10:30] <kbrooks> leader?
[10:30] <kingspawn> hey, anyone know of a program that probes my videocard's clockcycles and outputs them to me?
[10:31] <_jason> _jim_: what are you trying to install? does that happen with other things?
[10:31] <kbrooks> sambagirl: well, if you want our SABDFL:
[10:31] <kbrooks> !sabdfl
[10:31] <ubotu> sabdfl is probably Mark Shuttleworth, cosmonaut and founder of Canonical and Ubuntu
[10:31] <Seveas> kbrooks, one package so far which is in ubuntu, and some pathces landed in Ubuntu too
[10:31] <_jim_> _jason yeah with everything im trying to install
[10:31] <harisund> That's interesting, we have both a _jason and a jason. Anyway, jason from which machine are you trying to connect to which machine?
[10:31] <_jim_> i cant even update my ubuntu
[10:32] <sambagirl> well i received a box of cd's for different platforms and it had to be from the leader of Ubuntu. I wonder how they can afford to send from Europa this box of 20 cd's atleast? i did give out to my friends them tho.
[10:32] <_jason> _jim_: taking a shot in the dark: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:32] <kbrooks> sambagirl: it was not from him alone
[10:32] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[10:32] <_jim_> as root ?
[10:32] <kbrooks> sambagirl: it was from canonical
[10:32] <sambagirl>  a covenant
[10:32] <mDot> sambagirl and its shipped out of south america
[10:32] <sambagirl> wow
[10:32] <kbrooks> mDot: incorrect
[10:32] <_jim_> yes...
[10:33] <kbrooks> mDot: south america
[10:33] <scifi> NoUse: u here m8?
[10:33] <mDot> and if you order 1 or 100 is cost the company the same
[10:33] <kbrooks> er
[10:33] <kbrooks> mDot: south africa
[10:33] <_jim_> _jason /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed
[10:33] <sambagirl> this is so much more thrilling then anything that windows does.
[10:33] <mDot> kbrooks must be time for my nap =P
[10:33] <_jim_> :*-(
[10:33] <ziut> siemka!
[10:33] <sambagirl> there needs to be some commercials on the media to make it even more popular. imagine if there were 10 million users in this channel right now asking for support :D.
[10:34] <mDot> sambagirl scary though
[10:34] <jimcooncat> sambagirl, hopefully there'd be another channel
[10:34] <_jim_> is there a way to fix locales ?
[10:34] <ziut> sorry #ubuntu.pl not #ubuntu
[10:35] <_jason> _jim_: not sure what to suggest, sorry
[10:35] <gnomefreak> _jim_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales i think is the command
[10:35] <sambagirl> who ever organized the whole ubuntu structure is very international in thinking...global.
[10:35] <gnomefreak> or use the language menu option
[10:36] <_jim_> same problem ...... it saying its broken
[10:36] <harisund> sambagirl, indeed.. I wonder whether any poll has been conducted to find out the localities of Ubuntu users ... and find out whethere there is a concentration in any particular country.
[10:36] <scifi> when i start steam, the login box appears, i can see the boxes but there is no words on anything, anyone else have the same problem ?
[10:36] <sambagirl> is there a plan for a big ubuntu users party or conference or like what they do for Amiga computer? something humungous? something in maybe the french riviera or Rio or Maui?
[10:37] <jimcooncat> where was the last one, Toronto?
[10:37] <OffHand> harisund, there are
[10:37] <jimcooncat> I like your venues better
[10:37] <harisund> OffHand yeah I would expect that ..
[10:37] <Zoohouse> DBO, still there?
[10:37] <OffHand> I can confirm it
[10:38] <OffHand> it's somewhere on the forums
[10:38] <sambagirl> well harisund i think that all users should make an effort to make local user groups and this is how you can learn this otherwise the only other way i can think if there is a web counter that stores the ip for dowloads from the website and maintining the distribution regions you could get close in determining that.
[10:39] <harisund> OffHand, on the forums, ah yes ! most likely .. sambagirl, that's true.. you will need a counter .. and perhaps some mechanism to count only unique IP addresses...
[10:39] <sambagirl> now i am curious to know if there is any report by any major corporations as to whether they are using ubuntu in testing for deploykents in their various operations?
[10:40] <d3v> hello, I've got a little problem with the Live CD with the error "[!!]  Enter preinstalled session" when it is booting up and the CD check said "./casper/filesystem.cloop file failed to MD5 checksum" does anybody know how I could solve this? I have burnt a second downloaded iso and the exact same happened
[10:40] <gnomefreak> sambagirl, your best bet is to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic this is a support channel
[10:40] <sambagirl> well i am sure that the website is already maintining raw data on downloads etc..
[10:40] <kbrooks> sambagirl: please
[10:40] <kgrimm_> how do i disable gdm/xdm so a server is not wasting resources?
[10:40] <sambagirl> they dont talk abbout anytthing interesting in there.
[10:40] <sambagirl> ok
[10:40] <sambagirl> ok
[10:40] <kbrooks> sambagirl: not a excuse
[10:41] <OffHand> d3v, did you do a md5sum on the iso?
[10:41] <kbrooks> sambagirl: START a topic
[10:41] <_jim_> please , anyone knows how i can fix my locales ? it says its broken
[10:41] <mnemnonic> I need to count files that are in all subtrees of a directory, has anyone an idea how to do that? (console)
[10:41] <d3v> i did a md5 check thing on the one i downloaded (from ubuntu) and it came up correct
[10:41] <ljl> mnemnonic: find | wc -l
[10:41] <simonpca> ++
[10:42] <OffHand> how fast did you burn it d3v?
[10:42] <ljl> mnemnonic: you might want to refine that to avoid counting directories, and stuff like that (man find)
[10:42] <scifi> anyone know how to install tahoma.tff font for steam in ubuntu ?
[10:42] <d3v> first time very fast 2nd i took advice on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=123440 and did it at x8
[10:42] <mnemnonic> ljl: Aren't there blank lines in the output?
[10:43] <harisund> nalioth: exactly ..
[10:43] <OffHand> hmmm
[10:43] <ljl> mnemnonic: no, 'find' is supposed to just output a newline-separated list of files/directories, no blanks
[10:43] <mnemnonic> ljl: Ok, thx
[10:44] <nalioth> harisund: hmm?
[10:44] <fid> is there a way to configure the grub boot loader to default to windows?
[10:44] <harisund> nalioth: wrong window. I meant to type that in the offtopic channel, regarding the process-quitting in Windows.
[10:44] <gnomefreak> !grub
[10:44] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:44] <ljl> mnemnonic: the way to make it avoid counting directories too would be "find -type f | wc -l"
[10:45] <nicolito> hello, can anyone help me?? When I plug a NTFS formatted USB disk it is write protected, and I cannot save anything on it (nor change the propierties)
[10:45] <ljl> nicolito: you can not and should not save to ntfs from linux
[10:45] <_jason> nicolito: linux can't safely write to ntfs
[10:45] <mathieu> correction: there are no _free_ drivers that can safely write ntfs
[10:45] <nicolito> ljl, _jason... why?????
[10:46] <_jason> nicolito: microsoft doesn't disclose the specifications for ntfs so people can't write in support for it
[10:46] <Hattori> i'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/683195
[10:46] <Hattori> followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP but still got same problem
[10:46] <ljl> nicolito: because write support is extremely flaky (basically, there is none) --- i think the reason for that is mostly lack of open specifications
[10:46] <nicolito> _jason, so no way to use this USB DISK???
[10:46] <_jason> nicolito: format it as something else
[10:46] <mnemnonic> ljl: Counting directories is ok for my particular problem ... trying to figure out how many inodes I need to copy lot's of files from a cd ;)
[10:47] <_jason> nicolito: fat is good since both widnows and linux can write to it
[10:47] <mathieu> but fat itself is crap
[10:47] <ljl> _jason: yeah, unfortunately it's bad for a few other reasons
[10:47] <nicolito> _jason ok, thanks very much for your help
[10:47] <nicolito> thanks very much LJL
[10:47] <mcmillen> anyone know of a good way to make GNOME not look like KDE after logging in to KDE once? i seem to be stuck with KDE's blue highlights, even though i'm using the ubuntu "Human" theme in GNOME (this is on Dapper Beta)
[10:48] <_jason> ljl: yeah for transfering docs on a usb disk i think it's the best option though
[10:48] <IncipitFinis> whats up all
[10:48] <ljl> _jason: agreed - unfortunately
[10:49] <IncipitFinis> Ok, this is really noobish, but how do I get a p2p program running on ubuntu?
[10:49] <_jason> !p2p
[10:49] <ubotu> p2p is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[10:49] <ljl> _jason: ext2 might also be an option... there is more than one ext2 driver for Windows, some with write support... would be interesting to investigate how robust they are
[10:49] <IncipitFinis> oic
[10:49] <IncipitFinis> thanks
[10:49] <scifi> anyone know how to install tahoma.ttf font for steam in ubuntu ?
[10:49] <zyth> be a real man and use HPFS.
[10:49] <zyth> os/2 4 ever!
[10:49] <zyth> :P
[10:50] <HymnToLife> ljl> Ext2Fsd works pretty wel for read/write
[10:50] <_jason> ljl: they seem to work well, if you are allowed to install the driver on the windows computers you use that is :)
[10:50] <IncipitFinis> what about wine?
[10:50] <IncipitFinis> how do I install wine, I mean lol
[10:50] <bluefoxicy2> Hey guys I'm trying to merge an SQLDump into a new MySQL 4.1 install on Breezy, did nothing but install, ideas?
[10:51] <ljl> _jason: yes, of course... if what we're talking about is a standard USB key that one uses to load stuff to/from other people's computers, then FAT is definitely the only real option
[10:51] <bluefoxicy2> (too lazy to google)
[10:51] <bluefoxicy2> is this gonna be more than 1 command
[10:51] <mathieu> bluefoxicy2: IT DON'T WORK!!!111 HELP MEE!!11!!
[10:52] <bluefoxicy2> mathieu, I'm asking questions, not answering, try me later
[10:52] <mathieu> i hope that's irony
[10:52] <Mactel>  :)
[10:53] <Mactel> :D
[10:53] <kingspawn> oh, that was just precious
[10:53] <kingspawn> fantastic
[10:54] <mzinz> I used to use Gnome exclusively, then I made the switch to KDE.  Do I still need Gnome installed? Is there a way to remove it, along with *most* of the gnome programs?
[10:55] <ljl> mzinz: you could remove libgnome, that would sweep almost everything away
[10:55] <HymnToLife> mzinz> try removing a "core" GNOME app like Evolution or Nautilus
[10:55] <IncipitFinis> can you install kde from gnome?
[10:55] <linux_drive> hi ............
[10:55] <ljl> IncipitFinis: of course
[10:55] <mzinz> ljl: would it remove the actual gnome desktop *and* the applications?
[10:55] <Mactel> mzinz: In terminal, type sudo apt-get remove libgnome. :)
[10:55] <_jim_> please , anyone knows how i can fix my locales ? it says its broken
[10:56] <zyth> IncipitFinis, sure
[10:56] <mwe> mzinz: sudo apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common
[10:56] <ljl> mzinz: it would remove everything that depends on the gnome libraries... so yes, mostly
[10:56] <ljl> mzinz: might leave some GTK-only apps, like perhaps the GIMP, but those are not really Gnome apps anyway and you might want to keep them
[10:56] <mzinz> ljl: thats what i was hoping
[10:57] <mwe> mzinz: that works, I did it. then remove the rest if anything is left in aptitude
[10:57] <mzinz> mwe: thank u
[10:57] <DaSkreec1> can I hold a package in Ubuntu?
[10:57] <DaSkreec1> Or rather in apt?
[10:57] <ljl> mzinz: after that, you could do a "dpkg -l | grep ii | grep gnome" too check if any libraries are left installed
[10:57] <relbs> anyone know how to prevent gnome-cups-icon from starting up with a gnome login session?
[10:57] <odyssey12386> hello
[10:57] <moparfan90> does anyone here use openbox?
[10:58] <Zoohouse> jeff303, I can't find the drivers for sata :(
[10:58] <mwe> Daskreec1: yes. I'm not that familiar with synaptic but in aptitude it's straight forward
[10:58] <Daskreec1> mwe: Ah. ok So it's client based?
[10:58] <Zoohouse> jeff303, you think it is the lack of driver the problem?
[10:59] <scifi> anyone know how to install tahoma.ttf font for steam in ubuntu ?
[10:59] <fiendskull9> scifi, lol. yeah man, hold on
[10:59] <kgrimm_> how do i disable gdm/xdm at startup so a server is not wasting resources?
[11:00] <mzuverink> If I want to go back from dapper to breezy, can I not format the drive that contains only /home and format the the other drive that contains / and not have issues in Breezy?
[11:00] <vr_> how do i force apt-get to say "yes" without my interaction?
[11:00] <_jason> kgrimm_: system > administration > services, or man update-rc.d
[11:00] <fiendskull9> scifi, dont use easy-ubuntu, or automatix, they install it in a werid folder wine doesnt reconize
[11:00] <Pluk> kgrimm_, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[11:00] <ljl> vr_: "apt-get -y"
[11:00] <mathieu> kgrimm_: remove gdm and xdm?
[11:00] <vr_> ljl: thanks
[11:00] <ljl> vr_: or the verbose version of the same option, "apt-get --assume-yes"
[11:01] <vr_> ljl: great. how about incorporating a password? is it anything like sudo apt-get -p password ?
[11:01] <mwe> kgrimm_: or use rcconf
[11:01] <scifi> fiendskull9: ive not tried easy-ubuntu or automatix. i gathered ive got to download the core fonts and install them, but im not sure exactly which files i need and HOW to install them
[11:01] <ljl> vr_: note that, in some situations that apt-get considers particularly sensitive, that option will simply make apt-get abort
[11:01] <vr_> i see
[11:01] <ljl> vr_: a password for what?
[11:02] <vr_> ljl: for sudo operations
[11:02] <kgrimm_> thanks
[11:02] <fiendskull9> scifi, are you nickserved?
[11:02] <mzuverink> _jason: That Open Office problem with the buttons disappearing returned again in my Dapper install, it returned right after i installed Kubuntu-desktop.
[11:02] <ljl> vr_: can't think of a way right now, but anyway, i *would not* do anything like that
[11:03] <_jason> mzuverink: maybe you can check to see if it has been reported as a bug, and you might want to report it yourself if you can recreate it
[11:03] <ljl> vr_: what is it that you're trying to accomplish? perhaps it can be "taken sideways"
[11:03] <fiendskull9> scifi, look for my dialog window in your bottom bar of xchat
[11:03] <scifi> fiendskull9: if u mean is my nick registered then no :P
[11:03] <_jim_> fiendskull9 i need some help to install fonts too :)
[11:03] <scifi> fiendskull9: im using gaim and yes i replied as "andyt"
[11:03] <vr_> ljl: im trying to make this huge "alias" for bash that installs everything for me. kind of like a script.
[11:03] <vr_> for a fresh install
[11:03] <vr_> i wanted to make it unattended.
[11:04] <fiendskull9> _jim_, and scifi - join #skachat real quick.....
[11:04] <mzuverink> _jason: it has hapened twice now with a kubuntu install, plus all the window notification buttons on my bottom panel get a odd baby blue tint to them as well
[11:04] <momo3> http://israel.275mb.com/index2.php  <- - -    
[11:04] <blindx> heyyy can someone help me set up a wired network connection? i tried both DHCP and Static, but I'm not getting anything.
[11:04] <ljl> vr_: well, can't you write a script, and then run the *whole* script from sudo? you'd only have to type the password once, at the beginning, and then go away and drink coffee
[11:05] <vr_> ljl: yes, you're right. i got it now, thank you
[11:05] <teo> hi there! :)
[11:07] <ljl> vr_: now, i suppose you could make that script suid root, too, so that you'd have to type no password at all... but that's a *huge* security issue
[11:08] <vr_> true
[11:08] <vr_> i'll leave it as is
[11:09] <ingwe> hi
[11:10] <ubuntu> #kielce
[11:10] <Sodium> is there any progress on macromedia developing shockwave for us?
[11:11] <mwe> I don't think so
[11:12] <elaoufi> salut
[11:12] <elaoufi> $
[11:12] <kevor> Hi, what repository do i need to add to get mplayer?
[11:13] <mwe> universe
[11:13] <FunnyLookinHat> Has anyone here used Ubuntu with a bluetooth mouse?
[11:13] <_jason> kevor: multiverse
[11:13] <OffHand> lol
[11:13] <mwe> oh yes
[11:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell kevor about mplayer
[11:13] <mwe> multiverse ...
[11:13] <kevor> i got those commented out repossies enabled, but still no mplayer
[11:13] <_jason> mwe: although why multiverse and not universe, I have no clue
[11:13] <_jason> kevor: you need to actually add multiverse, it's not in the comments
[11:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell kevor about sources
[11:14] <kevor> oooh, ok :D
[11:14] <gnomefreak> sounds like he has backports enabled
[11:14] <kevor> _jason: what line do i need to add multithingy to?
[11:14] <_jason> kevor: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and I can tell you
[11:14] <_jason> !pastebin
[11:14] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:15] <mcmillen> any idea why, after upgrading to dapper beta, that a bittorrent tracker is started at bootup?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> kevor, on the lines that start with the word deb and end with the word universe put a space after universe and add the word multiverse
[11:15] <_jason> mcmillen: #ubuntu+1 please for dapper
[11:15] <dracflamloc> hello
[11:15] <kevor> gnomefreak: also lines that end on restricted?
[11:16] <dracflamloc> where are samba shares mounted in ubuntu when i use the "connect to server" item int he places menu
[11:16] <gnomefreak> kevor, the lines that end with universe
[11:16] <kevor> ok sorry, did that, let's try
[11:16] <kevor> Works, /me hugs gnomefreak
[11:16] <kevor> thank you for you quick and powerful help :P
[11:17] <gnomefreak> anytime ;)
[11:17] <alpha-one> hi all, i have a problem with my starting (login) screen. when i start gnome a black window appears (called login or screen manager or something like that) and prompts me for a user and a pw which is noch my regular one
[11:17] <kevor> gnomefreak: can't install it because it deps on some files, do you know what that is about?
[11:17] <Eduardo_> Boa tarde
[11:18] <gnomefreak> kevor, sudo apt-get update
[11:18] <Eduardo_> Algum do Brasil?
[11:18] <_jason> !br
[11:18] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:18] <kevor> did that
[11:18] <dracflamloc> does anyone know where samba shares are mounted ubuntu?
[11:18] <_jason> kevor: what does it say is missing?
[11:19] <kevor> yes it says the follow packages have unmet deps: mpalyer-568. depends: libfaad2-0 libflame0 libxvidcore4
[11:19] <gnomefreak> kevor, paste full error on pastebin if you can
[11:19] <_jason> !info libfaad2-0
[11:19] <ubotu> libfaad2-0: (freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - runtime files), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 193 kB, Installed size: 544 kB
[11:19] <gnomefreak> kevor, sudo aptitude install mplayer-586
[11:19] <gnomefreak> kevor, if your using 586 arch
[11:19] <gnomefreak> libfaad is needed oh yeah i guess it would be
[11:19] <alpha-one> can anyone help me with my login problem ?
[11:20] <_jason> kevor: sources.list > pastebin :)
[11:20] <kevor> gnomefreak: did exactly this: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install mplayer-586 (p4 here, so that's the good one)
[11:20] <kevor> yes _jason :)
[11:20] <kevor> url of pastebin? :$
[11:20] <_jason> kevor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:20] <dracflamloc> hi
[11:20] <ebbhead> I need to change from utf-8 to sv_SE.iso8859-1 ..  dpkg-reconfigure locales is somewhat "broken" in dapper flight 6..  anyone know anything aobut this ?
[11:20] <mwe> _jason: I think mplayer is in multiverse because of the license though I'm not into the details
[11:20] <gnomefreak> kevor, than install libfaad   use instructions on !restricted  lets see errors first
[11:20] <_jim_> ebbhead im getting same error on 5.10
[11:21] <ebbhead> oK
[11:21] <gnomefreak> ebbhead, try #ubuntu+1 for dapper and filght 6 you shouldnt have installed
[11:21] <_jim_> it says its broken ..
[11:21] <ebbhead> gnomefreak .. OK . thanks. What do you mean about nog having installed flight 6 ?
[11:22] <mwe> _jason: but then again isn't it GPL'ed ?
[11:22] <kevor> gnomefreak, _jason  pastebinned it
[11:22] <gnomefreak> ebbhead, once its installed you run apt-get upgrade or do your updates and you are pushed to newest version of packages
[11:22] <gnomefreak> kevor, can you paste the link in here
[11:22] <_jason> mwe: yeah, my guess is they get support for some things by using stuff that isn't gpl'd
[11:22] <ebbhead> gnomefreak: .. yes, that's the GOOD part.
[11:22] <kevor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12941
[11:23] <gnomefreak> ebbhead, so if your updated you can leave off the flight 6
[11:23] <mwe> _jason: maybe so
[11:23] <_jason> kevor: you missed some lines 41 and 42 on the pastebin
[11:23] <moparfan90> im trying to install a python file and i get a error saying /makefile cannot be found
[11:23] <selmanj> Question:  I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu onto my Pentium 4 hyperthreading system.  It will boot from cd, then it seems to freeze at the keyboard selection.  As far as I can tell, the keyboard and mouse both freeze after it boots.  If I try to pass the kernel option "acpi=off" or "acpi=ht", I get a kernel panic...  any ideas?
[11:23] <moparfan90> what should i do?
[11:23] <ebbhead> gnomefreak .. yes, well I'm updated, so I guess I'm not on flight 6 anymore. Anyway it's broken locales. I'll change channel now. Thanks !
[11:25] <kevor> ok :)
[11:26] <i3dmaster> how to rename the printers created in gnome-cups-manager?
[11:26] <kevor> _jason: retrying now, thanks
[11:26] <Edison> hi everyone
[11:26] <i3dmaster> they all named like Queue, Queue-1 and so forth...
[11:26] <kevor> _jason: it works now :)
[11:26] <kevor> gnomefreak: thanks for you trouble, again :P
[11:26] <gnomefreak> kevor, im here to help never trouble
[11:26] <mwe> i3dmaster: in kde you just right click it, can't you do the same in gnome?
[11:27] <Edison> i have a question how can i change file permissions??
[11:27] <mwe> Edison: chmod
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Edison, man chmod
[11:27] <Edison> ??
[11:27] <mwe> gnomefreak: copycat
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:27] <_jason> Edison: right click > properties > permissions, works too
[11:27] <i3dmaster> mwe, I can change, but the there is only a close button, after close, the name didn't get changed
[11:27] <Edison> thanks
[11:27] <kevor> Edison: chmod ugo+rwx (ugo= user group other) ( + means on you can also youse -) (rwx is read write execute)
[11:28] <poningru> dont bother with all of that
[11:28] <Edison> im learning how to use ubuntu lol
[11:28] <poningru> just learn the numbering system
[11:28] <kevor> poningru: that's hard for newbies :)
[11:28] <mwe> i3dmaster: I don't know. it sounds a bit broken then
[11:28] <poningru> no its not thats easier
[11:28] <poningru> well it was easier for me
[11:28] <Edison> but _jason i cant change filesystem permissions
[11:28] <i3dmaster> mwe, I think it is
[11:28] <Edison> that way
[11:28] <kevor> poningru: i'm dislectic.. so i'm scared of numbers ;)
[11:28] <poningru> hehe
[11:29] <_jason> Edison: you can only change permissions for files you own.  What file are you trying to change?
[11:29] <Edison> im trying to change a user file
[11:29] <mwe> Edison: file system perms?
[11:29] <Edison> yes
[11:29] <mwe> Edison: what's that?
[11:29] <i3dmaster> mwe, I was trying to see if anyone knows if the gnome-cups-manager reads any conf file so I can just edit the conf file and change the names instead of going to GUI
[11:29] <fiendskull9> !locales
[11:29] <ubotu> methinks locales is at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LocaleConf
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Edison, chmod <parameters> <path/to/file>
[11:30] <produkt_> j/ #mepis
[11:30] <mwe> i3dmaster: Well I believe you can edit the cups conf files by hand
[11:30] <produkt_> oops
[11:30] <Mars^> Hi i need some help. I will ask here cause i am using ubuntu and i feel it is the right thing. I want to learn how to write apps. I will start with C. Schould i use special course for linux system, or these for windows will be good?
[11:30] <green__saotome> hi guys
[11:30] <kingspawn> Mars^: get one that is linux specific
[11:30] <Elazar> Using Synaptic to do a complete removal of gPHPEdit doesn't seem to have gotten rid of the option I get to open it in the menu that appears when I right-click on a file. Any ideas on how I can do that? I tried reinstalling it and doing a complete removal again to make sure that something odd didn't happen when I originally completely removed it, but the menu option is still there.
[11:31] <green__saotome> i'm still trying to switch over from the dark side, what can i use to handle my podcast subscriptions?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Edison, if you want it to be read + writable for everyone it would look something like chmod a+x ~/file     if a file in your home dir
[11:31] <produkt_> the windows one should be okish for console apps shouldn't it?
[11:31] <mwe> Mars^: if the programs rely only on ansi c any book is good
[11:31] <i3dmaster> mwe, edited printers.conf but when I open gnome-cups-manager, it still using those old names
[11:31] <Edison> thats the one
[11:31] <Edison> thanks let me try
[11:31] <mwe> Mars^: if they explicitly use the win32 API they won't work in linux
[11:31] <mwe> i3dmaster: that sounds odd
[11:32] <i3dmaster> mwe, very
[11:32] <mwe> i3dmaster: does it update if you restart cupsys?
[11:32] <mwe> i3dmaster: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[11:32] <i3dmaster> mwe, I can try
[11:32] <NickGarvey> Elazar: rebooting to get everything back to defaults?
[11:33] <Elazar> NickGarvey: *rae* Rebooting? Huh? I'm not running off a Live CD, if that's what you meant.
[11:33] <i3dmaster> mwe, no unfortunately
[11:33] <Elazar> NickGarvey: I have rebooted since I did the removal of gPHPEdit, though, and that hadn't had any effect.
[11:33] <mwe> i3dmaster: I don't think I can help then. maybe someone else ...
[11:34] <i3dmaster> mwe, haha.. you know what, I changed from the KDE printer manager.
[11:34] <i3dmaster> mwe, I think the gnome one is just broken
[11:34] <jason> can you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?
[11:34] <Edison> thanks everyone for the help bye
[11:34] <jason> can you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?
[11:34] <jason> can you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?
[11:34] <jason> can you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?
[11:34] <jason> can you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?
[11:34] <jason> can you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?
[11:34] <jason> can you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?
[11:34] <jason> can you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?
[11:34] <NickGarvey> !ops
[11:34] <jason> can you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?
[11:34] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[11:34] <gnomefreak> jason,
[11:34] <jason> can you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?
[11:34] <jason> can you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?
[11:34] <_jim_> omg
[11:34] <tdn> Can anyone help me fix my locale. I get this error alle the time: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12942
[11:34] <NickGarvey> thank you
[11:34] <digen> phew
[11:34] <apokryphos> speedy ;-)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> oh that wasnt _jason
[11:35] <_jason> heh
[11:35] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:35] <Seveas> not the first time...
[11:35] <Seveas> gnomefreak, no, _jason is a good guy 
[11:35] <gnomefreak> i know i was confused for a sec
[11:35] <Elazar> I guess a better question would be, how do I remove a file type-program association?
[11:35] <tdn> I am wondering if my message got lost in the flood. Would it be ok to resend it maybe? :)
[11:36] <gnomefreak> tdn, yeah go ahead
[11:36] <_jason> Elazar: can't you right click > properties > open with, and remove it there?
[11:36] <tdn> gnomefreak, ok.
[11:36] <tdn> Can anyone help me fix my locale. I get this error alle the time: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12942
[11:36] <_jim_> im getting error that my locale is broken and cant install or update anything please help
[11:36] <gnomefreak> tdn, _jim_  ok you guys need to look at launchapd bugs nad see if ther eis one already if not please file one
[11:37] <gnomefreak> !bug
[11:37] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[11:37] <Elazar> _jason: Not that I'm seeing, no.
[11:37] <_jason> Elazar: is it listed there?
[11:37] <Seveas> tdn, your LC_CTYPE and LC_ALL are broken. Fic that
[11:37] <Seveas> Fix that even
[11:37] <Elazar> _jason: Ah, wait... OK, found it. Thanks. :P
[11:37] <tdn> gnomefreak, I really don't think that my problem is a bug in Ubuntu.
[11:37] <Elazar> Another question: is there a way to remove arrows on symbolic links? (i.e. when they're located on the desktop)
[11:38] <gnomefreak> tdn, im seeing it with more than just you people in dapper are having issue also and _jim_
[11:38] <_jim_> im on 5.10
[11:38] <gnomefreak> tdn, should be also
[11:38] <tdn> gnomefreak, ok. Actually I am not running Dapper.
[11:38] <gnomefreak> tdn, i know read what _jim_ posted
[11:39] <tdn> gnomefreak, hmm... Ok. I have the same problem on a Debian Stable box too...
[11:39] <tdn> gnomefreak, related?
[11:39] <_jim_> i cant install anything or update :(
[11:39] <gnomefreak> tdn, that tells me its not just you
[11:39] <gnomefreak> _jim_, did sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales work?>
[11:39] <tdn> gnomefreak, ok. I'll just wait and see if it fixes itself in some time ;)
[11:39] <_jim_> no
[11:40] <_jim_> root@10:/home/jimoupas# dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:40] <_jim_> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed
[11:40] <Elazar> _jason: Any idea about that one?
[11:40] <gnomefreak> _jim_, run sudo apt-get update please
[11:40] <_jim_> done
[11:41] <gnomefreak> _jim_, any updates?
[11:41] <_jim_> Reading package lists... Done
[11:41] <gnomefreak> _jim_, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:41] <_jason> Elazar: nope, but you could make it a launcher instead
[11:42] <Mon_> anyone succesfully used sshfs?
[11:42] <_jim_> im getting 4 lines error...
[11:42] <_jim_> post them here ?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> _jim_, can you paste them to pastebin please
[11:42] <_jim_> sure
[11:42] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[11:42] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:43] <_jim_> ill paste the whole thing
[11:43] <Elazar> _jason: Hm... how do I go about doing that?
[11:43] <Elazar> _jason: Ah, NM, found it.
[11:43] <_jim_> gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12943
[11:44] <gnomefreak> _jim_, while im looking at this can you open system>preff>languages   or language selector cant remember name but open it and let it do what it needs to let me know if it updates itsself or errors
[11:44] <gnomefreak> ium writing my last disk finally (might make it to ubuntu
[11:44] <_jim_> i cant find languages option...
[11:45] <gnomefreak> _jim_, system>admin>languages i guess than
[11:45] <_jim_> ah language selector ?
[11:46] <_jim_> i cant update any language....
[11:46] <dracflamloc> anyone know a way to make a window close when you double click the top-left icon in the titlebaR?
[11:46] <dracflamloc> (in gnome)
[11:46] <_jim_> same error
[11:47] <gnomefreak> _jim_, yes also try this and look for how to configure locales
[11:47] <gnomefreak> localedef --help
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ^^^ _jim_
[11:47] <erpo> Is there a way to do WPA without wpa_supplicant? I was hoping for something along the lines of iwconfig eth1 channel # essid <whatever> wpakey s:mywpakey
[11:47] <george-remp> hi, my ubuntu cannot read any dvd-rom,it shows that there is no files in the disk...can anyone help??
[11:47] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm wonder if localdef --config works
[11:47] <_jim_> hey gnomefreak > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12944
[11:48] <_jim_> lets tr
[11:48] <_jim_> try*
[11:48] <J_P> hi all
[11:48] <daddius> sup
[11:49] <_jim_> root@10:/home/jimoupas# localdef --config
[11:49] <_jim_> bash: localdef: command not found
[11:49] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmmmm
[11:49] <_jim_> :(
[11:49] <gnomefreak> _jim_, the last paste was from localdef --help or whatever the command was?
[11:50] <FlameSphere> Is there an actual place I can suggest stuff
[11:50] <gimmulf_3> Hi, i just installed Ruby thru synaptic but when i type "ruby" in shell nothing happens :/ its just waiting and no error msg
[11:50] <fiendskull9> gimmulf_3, i have same prob
[11:50] <J_P> people, I have ubuntu 5.10, and I am using redir program and doing this : "redir --laddr=200.xxx.xxx.xxx --lport=9000 --caddr=192.168.0.195 --cport=80  --debug", but this isn't working, but I test this comand in debian sarge and are working, version is equal (2.0). In ubuntu redir receive conection but cannot redirect it... Anyone have anyone idea ?
[11:50] <_jim_> sorry mate , what do u mena
[11:50] <gnomefreak> gimmulf_3, what are you expecting it to do?
[11:50] <_jim_> mean*
[11:50] <NoUse> FlameSphere report a bug of severity "wishlist"
[11:50] <gimmulf_3> gnomefreak: give me a prompt or something
[11:50] <fiendskull9> gnomefreak, it should pop up with an IDE, its for programming in ruby
[11:51] <_jim_> lol omg
[11:51] <brendan> anyone know how to set up /etc/network/interfaces to put both a static inet4 and inet6 address on eth0 ?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> localedef --help  this _jim_
[11:51] <gnomefreak> fiendskull9, well that would depend because ruby is just a lanuage no? you would have to install an ide or use a text editor?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> i thought rub file.ruby or whatever the .ext is would run a ruby app
[11:52] <gnomefreak> s/rub/ruby
[11:53] <gnomefreak> meaning the word ruby would be for interpreter
[11:53] <gnomefreak> brb _jim_ let me know if you see a way to run the --config
[11:53] <_jim_> k
[11:53] <RootSnatch> hey guys
[11:53] <scifi> fiendskull9: u there m8?
[11:54] <RootSnatch> I am trying to compile xbnbt and I type make xbnbt in the correct directory and it says make is not found
[11:54] <RootSnatch> I am using a brand new version of 5.10
[11:54] <PVZ> hey,does anybody experienced speaks portuguese here to help me on private?
[11:54] <PVZ> please
[11:54] <_jason> RootSnatch: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[11:54] <_jason> !pt
[11:54] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:54] <PVZ> thank you very much
[11:54] <PVZ> and im sorry for entering here
[11:55] <scifi> hey guys i have CS running in software mode but its Extremely jerky, anyway tweaks to get hardware acceleration working ?
[11:55] <luckyshot> does anyone know shell scripting??
[11:55] <luckyshot> not too advanced level
[11:55] <_jason> luckyshot: just ask your question
[11:55] <hyphenated> luckyshot: the guys in #bash do
[11:55] <luckyshot> thanks
[11:56] <hyphenated> or just ask it here
[11:56] <J_P> people, I have ubuntu 5.10, and I am using redir program and doing this : "redir --laddr=200.xxx.xxx.xxx --lport=9000 --caddr=192.168.0.195 --cport=80  --debug", but this isn't working, but I test this comand in debian sarge and are working, version is equal (2.0). In ubuntu redir receive conection but cannot redirect it... Anyone have anyone idea ?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ok _jim_ what did you find?
[11:56] <thecrazymonk86> hey, i was messing with my sound using a guide and it told me to restart, i restart then go to log in, after typing in my pass i get this error: /usr/bin/gnome-session: erro while loading shared libraries: libesd.so.0" cannot open shared object file: Error 40, it wont let me log in
[11:56] <_jim_> hmm
[11:57] <FlameSphere> is there a place i can go to just suggest ideas
[11:57] <brendan> anyone know how to set up /etc/network/interfaces to put both a static inet4 and inet6 address on eth0 ? ifup eth0 seems to ignore the inet6 stanza
[11:57] <_jason> thecrazymonk86: what does ``messing with my sound'' mean exactly?
[11:57] <_jim_> i dont see any conf commands
[11:57] <_jim_> should i pastebin u all this ?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:58] <thecrazymonk86> _jason: i was trying to get my sound to work in ut2004 and they had me move change somethings in esd.conf
[11:58] <_jason> thecrazymonk86: did you make a backup?
[11:58] <thecrazymonk86> yes
[11:58] <thecrazymonk86> i went back in a loaded the defaults
[11:58] <thecrazymonk86> but
[11:58] <_jim_> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12945
[11:59] <Peps> My laptop blew it's motherboard and the thec said that after fixing it linux would not start, so I guess I lost the drive and have to re-install. This lap (NX8220)had some problems with the  X driver under breezy, so I am asking how safe it is to use Dapper Flight 6 and what does it mean RE the repositories
[11:59] <FlameSphere> Is there a program that can play WMA
[11:59] <eck> how can i prevent a module from loading?
[11:59] <thecrazymonk86> they made me run this command sudo ln -fs /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[11:59] <hyphenated> Peps: #ubuntu+1
[11:59] <FlameSphere> #suggest
[11:59] <FlameSphere> oops
[11:59] <_jason> thecrazymonk86: that shouldn't hurt anything