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jeff_lol12:03
jeff_maybe switch to the normal menu?12:03
jeff_i hate that too, its rediculous12:03
NoUsejeff_ yeah I've started just sshing in, running x11vnc and using that12:04
jeff_lol uhh12:05
jeff_what?12:05
NoUsex11vnc is an app that bridges VNC to your current X session12:05
jeff_whats VNC?12:06
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sheldoncits like Remote Desktop12:07
NoUseits what krfb uses12:07
jeff_ok12:12
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visik7vnc sucks use freenx12:21
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ironmanwoow01:07
ironmani think the kubuntu installation ruined my second hdd :O01:07
ironmananyone active?01:08
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WhyMGot the same pb yesterday...01:14
WhyMThe graphic install on 6.06 beta live crashed and I could'nt access my hdd anymore  :-D01:15
WhyM :-@01:15
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icerdamn01:19
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bimberiironman, WhyM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta/PartitionTableCorruption (which is linked from http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/)01:23
WhyMThanks bimberi, it gave me a great oportunity to drop XP ;-)01:25
WhyMSo I just didn't fix the issue!01:25
icer:D01:26
bimberiWhyM: lol01:26
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WhyMThat's crazy... I even like kubuntu when it crashes my hdd...01:27
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icercrazy man.. btw dapper is beta....01:29
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tmdx120hello room!01:30
tmdx120howdy beef!01:30
icerhowdy chicken01:31
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tmdx120I have a question about scroll wheel mouses.01:35
icerok01:36
tmdx120Hi Icer. I have a three button mouse with a scroll wheel. THe scroll wheel wont scroll. What can I do?01:39
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tmdx120actually it has 4 buttons (one on the thumb)01:39
WhyMHow does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf look like (under the section about your mouse) ?01:40
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tmdx120Option"Protocol""ImPS/2"01:42
tmdx120Option"Emulate3Buttons""true"01:43
icerOption         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"01:43
icer?01:43
tmdx120nothing under that.01:43
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icerhttp://pastebin.com/68406101:44
icermy conf01:45
ironmanhmm01:45
ironmananyone?01:45
WhyMJust your wheel that won't work ?01:46
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ironmanShouldn't kubuntu be able to read NTFS from the beginning?01:46
tmdx120everything the same except  "Device" "/dev/psaux"  Option         "Buttons" "5" and  Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"01:46
tmdx120why-- yes just the scroll wheel wont work.01:46
ironmantmdx120, WhyM ? :(01:47
tmdx120if you count the wheel and thumb it actually has 5 buttons.01:47
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tmdx120Lol?01:47
tmdx120?01:47
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ironmanBah01:48
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tmdx120so should I add ZaxisMapping 4 5?01:48
tmdx120??01:49
icerit's up to you01:49
tmdx120I will give it a shot. Thanks01:50
WhyMI don't understand... you already have it in your xorg.conf no?01:50
WhyMnop sorry01:51
WhyMYes you should try that01:51
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WhyMTalking about mice... why do I have 3 "InputDevice" sections about some Wacom stuff I don't have...01:56
ironmanWhen I installed kubunto.. I just choosed to edit the partition-table for hda... Why isn't there anything in hdb then!?01:56
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__mikemHey, when I go to display options, I can't get screen resolutions higher than 1024x768 but I am capable of runing at 1280x1024 in gnome, is there a config file I could modify to fix this problem, if so, just tell me where it is02:02
WhyM__mikem : /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:03
__mikemok, one more thing, why is it that I can run at high resolutions in gnome and not in kde, knowing this will help when modifying the file02:04
WhyMDo you have 1280x1024 in your "Screen" section?02:05
__mikemhold on02:05
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__mikemnope02:06
__mikemWhat depth does it run at by default02:07
__mikemnvm02:07
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__mikemdefaultdepth duh02:07
WhyMOk so just add it ("1280x1024") for each mode.02:07
WhyM24 I think02:08
__mikemjust add , "1280x1024" to the end the modes line02:08
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__mikemright?02:08
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WhyMyep, then restart x and set your screen resolution in kde02:09
WhyMThat should work02:09
__mikemok, by the way, right now I am in gnome, will that make a difference02:09
WhyMIt just tells xorg your screen is able to use 1280x102402:10
__mikemyes, sorry, I am still a bit new to linux02:10
WhyMSo am I ;-)02:10
__mikemyour ahead of me lol02:11
__mikembrb02:11
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JohnFluxhmm02:18
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Chris_Tuckeris there a command line way to list ALL debian packages that are installed?02:22
crimsundpkg -l02:23
Chris_Tuckereek02:23
Chris_Tuckerok is there an option for that that makes it just the package name?02:23
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crimsundpkg -l |awk '{ print $2 }'02:24
Chris_Tuckerwait... crimsun ... ive seen that before... have you ever been to #linuxhelp on undernet?02:24
Chris_Tuckerthe name is what ive seen02:24
crimsunI tend to avoid undernet like the plague these days02:25
Chris_Tuckerhave you ever been though?02:25
crimsunabout six years ago, yes02:25
Chris_Tuckerok not the same crimsun then.. i was assisted by a crimsun there about a year ago02:25
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Chris_Tuckercrimsun, since you got that far, think theres a way to make it jumble all those lines into just package names seperated by spaces not lines? :P im not good at scripting yet02:28
Chris_Tuckeri think it'll probably use sed or something02:29
crimsunperl or ruby would be faster02:30
dutchhi crimsun  :)02:31
JohnFluxHi all02:31
JohnFluxI need /usr/include/GL/gl.h to compile a program02:31
JohnFluxubotu the bot says it's in libgl1-mesa-dev    but I have that installed02:31
Chris_Tuckercrimsun, got an example? :P02:31
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, JohnFlux02:31
crimsunhi dutch02:31
crimsunChris_Tucker: Google dose02:31
crimsundoes^02:31
crimsunJohnFlux: no, libgl1-mesa-dev02:32
robotgeekJohnFlux: install apt-file and search with it :)02:32
crimsunare you _sure_ you have it?02:32
Chris_Tuckerwhat would i enter my search as ..? "how to convert new lines to spaces with perl"?02:32
JohnFluxcrimsun: libgl1-mesa-dev is already the newest version.02:32
crimsungood, now install mesa-common-dev02:32
JohnFluxcrimsun: do I do this even if I have the nvidia drivers?02:32
JohnFluxcrimsun: don't they have their own gl or something confusing?02:33
crimsunthat's their business, and yes, they do02:33
JohnFluxmesa-common-dev is already the newest version.02:33
crimsunls -l /usr/include/GL/gl.h02:33
JohnFluxthis is 64bit debian02:33
JohnFluxuh02:33
JohnFluxkubuntu sorry02:33
JohnFluxls: /usr/include/GL/gl.h: No such file or directory02:33
JohnFluxI have the glu.h  etc tehre02:33
JohnFluxthere02:33
crimsunsudo apt-get --reinstall install mesa-common-dev02:34
crimsundid you install the Nvidia drivers from their Web site, or are you using Ubuntu's packaging?02:34
JohnFluxthat worked02:34
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JohnFluxcrimsun: they ubuntu ones in restricted02:34
JohnFluxs/they/the/02:34
crimsunhmph.02:34
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WhyMHow can I make Gnome apps look 'goodunder kde?02:45
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john_GWhyM: settings>appearanxws&themes>gtk styles&fonts ... choose to use your kde themes and fonts02:52
john_G*appearances02:52
WhyMThanks, but that's already the case... :-(02:53
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DarkShockanybody know how to make Konqueror in Kubuntu open tar.gz, tar.bz2, .zip using their kioslave and not Ark ?03:11
apokryphosDarkShock: check the file associations03:15
DarkShockapokryphos: I checked that03:15
DarkShockapokryphos: I selected to use the embeded viewer, but it doesn't work, and removing Ark from the list doesn't work either03:16
DarkShockI checked and both tar:/ and zip:/ ioslaves are present and functional03:16
DarkShockonly the file association doesn't work03:17
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swedishquestion: you know when you mouse-over a document in KDE, it shows the little preview of the document, is there a way to enlarge that?03:40
DarkShockswedish: hmmm I don't think so03:40
swedishbut u do know what im talking about right03:41
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DarkShockthe preview in the tooltip right ?03:41
swedishi wonder what to google  "enlarge kda file preview"03:42
swedishlike when you just mouse over, like if its a txt file it shows a preview of whats in it03:42
swedishand it also has like file size, last modified, and what not03:42
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DarkShockyup, that's the tooltip I'm refering to03:42
swedishok03:42
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\etc\binhi there all04:07
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prospero2005who here knows what the default kubuntu theme is?04:55
prospero2005Or, can anyone recommend a good theme04:55
CheeseBurgerManprospero2005: Which version of Kubuntu?04:55
prospero20053.504:55
Hobbseeprospero2005: polyester is quite nice04:55
prospero2005I tried to install lipstick but it said it couldn't find the paths for the X libraries I think04:56
Hobbseeprospero2005: apt-cache search kwin list teh ones already packaged for kubuntu04:56
Hobbsee!xlibs04:56
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee04:56
Hobbsee!xincludes04:56
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev04:56
Hobbseeprospero2005: ^04:56
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prospero2005I'm trying it now. How do you know that?04:59
prospero2005that solved it.04:59
prospero2005Now, qt headers and libraries not found05:00
prospero2005qt3-dev-tolls?05:00
Hobbseeprospero2005: kde-devel is the easiest package to install after that05:00
Hobbseeprospero2005: grab kdelibs4-dev05:01
prospero2005What do you do for a living there hobbes?05:01
prospero2005NOw that I've got dapper up, I'm seriously considering taking a stab at XGL05:02
Hobbseeprospero2005: who, me?05:02
prospero2005Got dual monitors though on separate cards05:02
prospero2005ya, you05:02
Hobbseeoh. if you use tab completion, you dont generally get teh nick wrong05:03
Hobbseei'm at uni, and also work as a check out chick.05:03
prospero2005uni?05:03
Hobbseeuniversity05:03
prospero2005You sound like a system admin05:03
prospero2005which university?05:03
Hobbseeone in sydney05:04
Hobbseethe particular package you wan t is libqt3-mt-dev05:04
prospero2005Australia. I'll probably never make it down under. Probably nice though05:04
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prospero2005Do you know where I go to change themes in 3.5?05:06
Hobbseeprospero2005: system settings, apperance05:07
Hobbsee*appearance05:07
prospero2005nvm got it. styles05:07
Hobbseeyou can use colours from one style, and the style from anotehr, you know.  kinda neat :D05:07
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prospero2005with the default kde theme the icons were nice and big05:10
prospero2005SInce I've switched themes, they all got a lot smaller. I'd like to get the default back.... hmm05:11
CheeseBurgerManprospero2005: IIRC it's Settings > Appearence > Desktop > Icons05:11
CheeseBurgerManOh well, I'm wrong. Try Settings > Appearence > Icons. ;)05:12
sig-11breezy/dapper seem to be missing opengl man pages which were in warty/hoary. Things like glxinfo and glViewport. Anyone know why?05:12
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gyrateanyone know where flashplayer-mozilla went?05:36
crimsunaway.05:37
gyrateso theres only the gpl version now?05:38
crimsunI asked for its removal from the archive about two months ago, since it illegally distributes in binary form the plugin from our repo.05:38
crimsunmacromedia's eula specifically forbids that.05:38
crimsunno, there's flashplugin-nonfree05:38
crimsunwhich has been and is the preferred package for using macromedia's binary-only Flash plugin05:39
crimsunmake sure you update first if you're running Dapper05:39
gyrateapt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?05:39
crimsunyes05:39
gyrateit doesnt seem to exist for me05:40
crimsundo you have multiverse enabled?05:40
gyrateyup05:40
gyratei think so05:40
crimsunthen you probably don't :)05:40
gyrate.me checks05:40
crimsunbe sure you aren't mistaking breezy-backports/breezy-updates for breezy05:41
gyratei have universe05:41
crimsunit's not in universe, it's in multiverse05:41
crimsun!info flashplugin-nonfree05:41
gyratei dont see multiverse in the default sources list05:41
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB05:41
crimsunare you using breezy or dapper?05:41
gyratehmm. let me check05:42
crimsunlsb_release -r05:42
gyratethis is my first install05:42
gyrate5.1005:42
crimsunbreezy05:42
crimsun!repos05:42
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource05:42
gyrateok, thanks05:43
gyrateok, i see05:45
gyratemultiverse isnt listed in the default sources.list05:45
gyrateand this is my first debain based distro, so i barely know what im doing ;)05:45
CheeseBurgerManWhat other distros have you used?05:46
gyrategentoo, redhat, suse05:47
jobezoneyou can also mess with the sources.list file graphically. In system->Administration there's an option I think (software sources?)05:47
gyrateyeah, i have this adept tool05:47
gyratelooks liek a kde app05:47
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jobezonenevermind, this is #kubuntu! :D05:49
CheeseBurgerManhehe, you can mess with it graphically in Kubuntu too. ;)05:50
Hobbseejobezone: you can open it in kate, and tehn just copy and paste as you like...that's fairly graphical...05:50
gyrateim using vi05:51
jobezonesure05:51
jobezonebut my pointer was specific to gnome.05:51
CheeseBurgerManYep. :)05:51
jobezonegyrate: not Emacs?05:52
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gyrateive been using linux for abotu 7 years now, and i have never even typed emacs on a command line ;)05:53
Hobbseegyrate: neither05:53
gyratehaving said that, i think vi sucks too05:53
CheeseBurgerManlol05:53
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gyratebut its everywhere, so i deal with it05:53
gyratei know just enough to get by05:54
CheeseBurgerManMe too. I can type, save, and quit once I get into it. :P05:54
CheeseBurgerManWhat else to I need to know? :)05:54
jobezone:))05:54
gyratesometimes i wish i knew copy/paste05:54
gyratebut im always too lazy to look it up05:55
Hobbseegyrate: ctrl+c and ctrl+v?05:55
Hobbseesometimes it's shift+insert for kde apps05:55
gyratethat doesnt work in vi05:55
Hobbseepity05:55
gyratevu has 'yank' and something else05:55
gyrateerr, vi05:56
gyratewhatever the opposite of yank is i guess05:56
CheeseBurgerManpush?05:56
CheeseBurgerMan;)05:56
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gyratehttp://www.tech-recipes.com/unix_tips219.html05:57
gyrateim feeling less lazy today05:57
gyratewhy is it so quiet in here?06:00
thunderboltWell, I'm doing proofs.06:01
gyrateits scary for a channel with this many people to be so quiet06:01
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regeyaI was watching a starwars fanflick.06:02
regeyaseriously, we're all using a distribution that works, so...maybe there's no need to talk about it. *wink*06:02
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CheeseBurgerManlol06:02
gyratehaha, good point06:02
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gyratewell, it working for me so far06:02
CheeseBurgerManIt's worked for me...once I changed a few things... ;)06:03
gyratei had the same gentoo install for over 2 years, but i got sick of fixing things06:03
CheeseBurgerManI've had this install since flight 5 came out, and I've almost stopped adding programs and changing how it looks. :P06:04
gyratei really hate this 'system settings' thing though06:05
gyratewheres the kde control center?06:05
CheeseBurgerMankcontrol06:05
gyrateah, thanks06:05
CheeseBurgerManThat's the 2nd thing I do after installing. :)06:05
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gyratemuch better06:06
gyratethis is actually faster than my gentoo install06:08
gyratei wonder why06:08
Hobbseegyrate: well, it finished installing *hours* before your gentoo isntall would have, so you're already way in front :P06:09
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CheeseBurgerManlol06:09
CheeseBurgerMandon't you mean "days"? ;)06:09
gyrateyeah yeah06:09
Hobbseeoh yes06:10
Search4LancerI love how my battery is losing charge06:10
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Search4Lanceryet my laptop is plugged in06:10
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Tuxutugbonsoir06:11
HobbseeSearch4Lancer: does it show you that in klaptop or kpowersave?06:11
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gyratehmm, i cant find ntpd06:12
gyratei found ntp, but it doesnt install a daemon06:12
gyrateoh, i found it06:13
gyratentp-simple06:13
gyrateok, im off to bed06:15
gyrateseeya06:15
Search4LancerHobbsee - klaptop06:16
HobbseeSearch4Lancer: breezy or dapper?06:16
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Search4Lancerdapper06:17
HobbseeSearch4Lancer: try kpowersave :P06:19
Hobbseeit's *stacks* better than klaptop06:19
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Search4LancerHobbsee - it shows the same charge06:25
HobbseeSearch4Lancer: true...but it's less buggy, and has nice suspend to disk and suspend to ram capabilities06:26
Search4LancerI don't trust suspension one bit.... nor do I really need to suspend, as I am always plugged in06:26
CheeseBurgerManAnd they have an x86_64 RPM which I can make into an amd64 deb. :)06:27
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Hobbseeah ok06:39
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prowerHello everyone :> A quick question...does the vanilla i386 kernel have pre-emption enabled?07:15
crimsunin dapper, you mean?07:17
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prowerOh, no...breezy, I just installed it07:17
crimsunbreezy doesn't have preempt enabled at all by default for any kernels07:18
crimsunyou can confirm with ``uname -a''07:18
prowerOh, I see :/ That's too bad, I need to find a decent guide on building a custom kernel07:18
crimsundesktop kernels in dapper have it enabled by default; server kernels have it disabled07:19
prowerHmm...so if I copy the config that was used to compile the vanilla kernel over and edit it just to enable pre-emption, would installing that work?07:20
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ports-whats a good p2p app for kubuntu08:16
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noiesmoports-, you could use frostwire not a ubuntu package just download and away you go does need java08:19
ports-noiesmo:  any others?08:20
noiesmoports-, not sure the only other thing i use is ktorrent or bittornado but they need a .torrent file to work08:21
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ports-right08:21
_matthi08:21
_mattanyone like halo208:22
noiesmo_matt, does it run on linux08:22
_mattwine08:22
noiesmo_matt, if not no08:22
_mattoh so you are interested because it does run on linux.08:23
_mattanyone else annoyed that firefox 1.5 doesn't come with ubuntu?08:24
noiesmo_matt, no not really thought it might have been ported to linux and that be ok but otherwise its just a M$ game08:24
Hobbsee_matt: it does08:26
Hobbsee!+firefox1.508:26
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion08:26
Hobbseeand it's in the dapper repos08:26
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=== Hobbsee uses the mozilla binaries anyway - they're faster
_mattis dapper out yet?08:26
crimsunnot until 1 june08:27
_mattbut you can use the repositries already?08:27
Hobbseeyes08:28
Hobbseehave been able to since a couple of weeks after breezy was released08:28
_mattwell I've only been using linux for about two months at home, but really like ubuntu, I started with gnome but then decided I liked KDE a lot more08:30
Hobbseeyay!08:31
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_mattI gave up on windows after having to put up with that dam product activation?08:31
_mattoh and spyware infestations every month08:31
Hobbseeurgh yeah08:32
Hobbseethey're always fun08:32
_mattto many reinstallations of windows08:32
ports-/dns ports-08:33
_mattdoes kde have a separate file manager or just konqueror?08:34
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Hobbsee_matt: konqueror, yes08:35
_mattanyone here know much about ssh tunnels08:37
robotgeek_matt: you can also install krusader (a dedicated file manager)08:38
_mattreally, I think that would be better for me as I prefer firefox as a web browser.08:39
_matti shall install it now08:39
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GMullencan anyone help with a start up problem?08:49
robotgeekGMullen: just ask away :)08:51
GMullenok08:52
GMulleni installed from the live DVD08:52
GMullenand tried to boot08:52
GMullenand xserver hung ad a gray screen08:52
GMullenthen i booted into recovery08:53
GMullenapt-get upgrade08:53
GMullenand dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:53
GMullenand set it to all the recomemed08:53
GMullenstill the same problem if i try to boot normealy08:54
robotgeekGMullen: look at /var/log/xorg.log (look for lines starting with (EE) )08:54
noiesmoGMullen, did you try vesa for display drivers and not nv or ati pending which card you have08:56
GMullenno i didn't even think of that08:56
noiesmoGMullen, vesa should alsways work fingers crossed then you could update repos etc and add restricted modules to suite your card08:57
robotgeekvesa always works :P08:57
noiesmoGMullen, even update kernel etc08:57
GMullenok i'm still a relitive noob08:58
GMulleni have no idea what you said08:58
GMulleni know how to set it to vesa08:58
noiesmoat least you try08:58
GMullenbut then after that08:58
GMullenok08:58
noiesmoGMullen, go defaults exept vesa then youll have gui08:58
GMullenok i'll try that08:58
GMullenhopefuly i'll be back with konversation08:59
noiesmoGMullen, when you havegrey screen do you have mouse cursor08:59
GMullenthx noiesmo08:59
GMullenyes08:59
GMullenand it moves08:59
noiesmonp :)08:59
GMullenbut i cant ctrl alt f*08:59
noiesmocool then it should just be the drivers for video card08:59
GMullenkk08:59
GMullenbrb08:59
noiesmorobotgeek, hopefully his keyboard works he did say before he left he couldnt  ctrl alt f*09:01
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robotgeeknoiesmo: hmm, that's always messy (i've had hell once with sun keyboards on debian)09:02
noiesmoheh09:02
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GMullenthx noiesmo09:04
GMulleni'm in09:04
noiesmocoool09:04
GMullennow what do i need to do next09:04
noiesmoare you on kde09:05
GMullenyes09:05
GMullenmy friend is trying to get me onto gnome09:06
noiesmogo K system then open adept from here you can install extra packaages etc09:06
noiesmokde rocks09:06
GMullenok adept is open09:06
robotgeekif he was using Dapper, he could have use "Add/Remove programs" also :)09:07
GMullenthis screen resolution is so damn small09:07
robotgeek!fixres09:07
ubotufixres is, like, Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:07
noiesmobrb09:07
GMullenthx09:09
GMullencan i use this even thow i'm in kubuntu with KDM not GMD09:09
GMullenGDM*09:09
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_mattis it possible to share a printer connected to a windows machine with a unbuntu workstation?09:16
atiro_matt: yes, you need samba09:17
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_mattI believe samba is part of the default ubuntu install09:19
atiroyes, it should be...09:19
_mattI can access folders on the windows machine09:19
atiroI'd google for a good howto, something like "samba printer"09:20
_mattok09:20
robotgeeklook on the wiki09:22
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Phazemanhey there Hobbsee09:23
Phazemansorry was distracted09:23
HobbseePhazeman: what version of kde does mandriva have?  i'm curious09:23
Phazemanas a matter of fact, the last time i used mandriva was a year ago.... i use the Xbuntu way now09:23
Hobbseeoh ok...09:24
Phazeman:)09:24
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Phazemanahhh09:24
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Phazemanit was from the old good days of OP'ing there09:24
Hobbseeah yes09:24
Phazemanafter they added the next line to the topic: "No support for other OSes" i kinda quit completely09:25
Phazemannot that i was active lately09:25
Phazemani mean, they support mandriva, and ONLY mandriva09:25
Phazemani can't understand that09:25
robotgeekPhazeman: in #mandriva?09:26
Phazemanrobotgeek: yes09:26
PhazemanSupport for Mandriva only, not other distro's or OS's09:26
Phazemanthis is the exact line09:26
robotgeekPhazeman: i wouldn't know a thing if you asked me about mandriva, to be honest. it might seem pretty offtopic to ask a #mandriva question in #kubuntu :P, unless it was generic enough09:27
Phazemanmost of the times, people ask generic questions09:27
Hobbseeheh09:27
Phazemanand when someone does, and he's not using mandriva - he won't get help (usually()09:28
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kubuntutaotaotoday upgraded,my amarok's xine engine didn't init.09:37
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kubuntutaotaoused source: deb ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse09:38
GMullenwhere can i apt-get 855resolution09:40
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Pyrewhere can i apt-get 855resolution09:40
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GMullenthe answer is not a konsole09:40
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_matthas anyone managed to get starcraft working through wine?09:45
GMullen!fixres09:46
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ubotufixres is, like, totally, Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:47
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_mattwhat is !fixres?09:48
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yanishhi10:11
yanisI think there is a problem with kubuntu's wiki10:11
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mrmistHi all :)10:19
mrmistI've got a ATI GPU... what driver should I use ?10:20
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mrmistI'm using one now, but KDE seems slow10:20
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_mattanyone else prefer firefox to konqueror10:26
_mattbut i think konqueror is good as a file manager10:26
Hobbsee_matt: yep10:26
Hobbseetrue10:27
_mattyou know if you get the kde theme for firefox it integrates well into kde10:27
buzanyone using dapper of today? can you print?10:27
_mattnot using it yet10:29
_mattthe gtk looking firefox just looks ugly in kde10:31
buz_matt: get the crystal fox theme10:32
buzthat makes it look bearable10:32
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_mattyeah I've got the crystal theme its good10:35
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fjellrev1anyone in here with any experience with NVidia tv-out? 1 out for 40 times I actually am able to run the program,and then there is the task of getting it to work,most of the time my pc crashes after I try and get a picture on my tv10:54
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_mattwhat "program" are you referring to?11:04
Solanhey:) would you recommend an update from Breezy to Dapper? is Dapper stable?11:04
_mattare you using the s-video out?11:04
_mattwhats the difference between breezy and dapper anyway?11:07
SolanI don't have clue man;) that's kinda why I'm askin':)11:10
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_mattyeah well im asking too but noones answering11:12
Solanyeah.. I know..11:12
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Solanmaby we should take the hint and wait with Dapper until it's completely stable:)11:13
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StormchaserWhat's the APT repository for kubuntu (drapper beta)? I can't seem to find it in the wiki :/11:20
_mattdapper maybe11:20
Stormchaserer... whoops... Yes, dapper :)11:20
Kamping_Kaisersame as ubuntu11:21
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_mattNow windows XP, thats a good operating system11:25
_matt!!joke!! -- just trying to stir up some coversation11:26
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _matt11:26
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Stormchaserhum... This won't work :/ deb http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ dapper11:36
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Kamping_KaiserStormchaser, whats up?11:40
Kamping_Kaiseroh11:40
Kamping_Kaiserdeb http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper $parts11:41
Stormchaserwhat is $parts?11:41
Stormchaseroh, I get it :)11:41
Kamping_Kaiser:)11:42
Stormchaserdapper kubuntu, right?11:42
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Kamping_Kaiseryes. kubuntu uses the same package repositories as ubuntu11:43
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Kamping_Kaiserkubuntu is just another set of packages :)11:43
Stormchaserkewl :)11:43
Kamping_Kaiserhi apokryphos11:43
apokryphosaloha11:43
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nico8481hi11:44
Kamping_Kaiserhi nico848111:45
StormchaserArgh!11:46
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StormchaserNote to self: Never trust update managers :/11:47
Hobbseehehe11:49
HobbseeStormchaser: why, what's it doing?11:49
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StormchaserHobbsee: Well... It just overrrode the sources.list without asking, if I wanted to upgrade KDE as well...11:53
Hobbseeoh okay11:53
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StormchaserHobbsee: can you paste the kubuntu line from sources.list?11:56
Hobbsee!repos11:56
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:56
StormchaserTHATNK YOU! *hugs* :)11:57
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StormchaserWell... Actually... All I wanted is this: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main :)12:03
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KAOS_JNRhi was wondering if someone can help i am a real linux noob and want to install kubuntu i have downloaded the distro and can get it to boot but when i select install i get an error would someone have the time to help??12:08
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yaniswhat error?12:14
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KAOS_JNRyanis thanks for listening i am just cheaking the disk to see if there are any issues12:35
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fjellrev1whats recomended to use as a ftp server program? Im no guru so want something simple with not too much configuration :)12:48
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ubijtsa2fjellrev1: does it have to be ftp?12:49
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fjellrev1ubijtsa : what other options do I have? want to share with my windows friends12:54
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ibrahimhi all12:54
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topquarcksalam12:54
ubijtsa2fjellrev1: over the internet, or on a LAN ?12:55
fjellrev1ubijtsa2: internet12:56
ubijtsa2fjellrev1: there is ftp, probably the easiest thing to set up (am sure there is a package for anon ftp)12:57
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ubijtsa2fjellrev1: you could use Samba with authentication12:57
ubijtsa2fjellrev1: if you don't need them to upload, just download, you can use a simple webserver12:58
ubijtsa2fjellrev1: if you feel adventurous and in a learning mood, webserver with WebDAV gives you both upload and download, and recent windows can handle DAV, so should work12:59
ubijtsa2just remember that opening services up onto the net means security risks.01:00
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fjellrev1I dont feel that adventuarous right now,that energy is going to nvidia tvout,just want to set up quick and easy,upload would be nice..like ServeU-ftp in windows01:03
ubijtsa2wuftpd is an option, but I think there is a selection01:04
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fjellrev1the wuftpd it is,thanks for stearing me into the right direction01:08
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ubijtsa2np. there should be a package for anon-ftp somewhere as well. been years since I tinkered with it though01:09
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_Rosen_is there any way that i can watch flashmovies in kubuntu64?01:18
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_Rosen_is there any way that i can watch flashmovies in kubuntu64?01:22
JohnFlux_Rosen_: HAHA01:23
JohnFlux_Rosen_: Short answer:  no01:23
JohnFlux_Rosen_: Long answer: Yes01:23
JohnFlux:-)01:23
_Rosen_??????????+01:23
_Rosen_*?01:23
JohnFlux_Rosen_: for flash, wma, etc there is no 64 bit binary libraries01:23
JohnFlux_Rosen_: however you can set up a 32 bit chroot environment01:24
mrmistAnyone here use any ATI-drivers in breezy ?01:24
JohnFlux_Rosen_: doing that will be a learning experience in itself01:24
JohnFlux_Rosen_: I recommend trying if you have the time and you want to learn about your system01:24
JohnFlux_Rosen_: if you want it "to just work", then no :-)01:25
_Rosen_JohnFlux, thanks, then i might try it this weekend01:25
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mrmistehm... anyone ?01:29
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JohnFlux_Rosen_: easiest way might be to just install 32 bit kubuntu on another partition01:30
JohnFlux_Rosen_: then you can simply either reboot or use chroot01:30
_Rosen_JohnFlux, hookay, too bad that i aint got any free partitions anymore :( and i dont want to format any of them.01:31
_Rosen_ok, this is a really noobish question, but couldnt i run kubuntu32 in vmware?01:32
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JohnFlux_Rosen_: just google for setting up a 32 bit environment01:33
JohnFlux_Rosen_: it's not that bad01:33
JohnFlux_Rosen_: but will take a day01:33
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_Rosen_okay, as i said then ill try this weekend :P01:34
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mrmistIs it worth while compiling Firefox for my system, or should I just download a binary ?01:44
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koshmrmist: sudo apt-get install firefox01:46
mrmistkosh: Yeah... for firefox 1.0.801:47
mrmistFirefox is stable at 1.5.0.2 now01:47
koshah I see01:48
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koshI rarely use firefox01:48
mrmisthmm... what do you use then ?01:48
koshkonqueror01:48
mrmistKonqueror ?01:48
koshrenders faster and uses about 1/10th the resources of firefox01:48
nico8481firefox keeps crashing now and then here01:49
nico8481for no apparent reason01:49
mrmistThere's some weird artifacts with mozilla-stuff in Linux though01:49
mrmistThings starts flashing gray frames and atuff01:49
mrmiststuff01:49
Hobbseemrmist: download a mozilla binary01:50
Hobbseethat seems to only happen with the ubuntu packages...or a lot more often01:51
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mrmistHobbsee: I've downloaded i binary now01:51
Hobbseeoh ok01:51
mrmistHobbsee: But how do I replace the functionality in the OS01:52
koshgnome has some dependencies on firefox and so just upgrading firefox can break gnome01:52
mrmist?01:52
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koshthat is why it does not get upgraded to a new version01:52
mrmistah... hmm01:52
Hobbseewhich functionality in particular?01:52
Hobbsee!+firefox1.501:52
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:52
koshI don't know01:52
koshit was covered on the channel a few times but I did not pay attention01:52
mrmistAll shortcuts f.eks.01:52
koshsince I don't use gnome at all01:52
mrmistI don't use gnome wither01:53
mrmisteither01:53
mrmisthowever I think the speed in KDE is too slow..01:53
koshwonder what the problem is01:53
koshI am not having any kde speed problems01:54
mrmistWhat kinda' machine are you running on ?01:54
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koshwell this machine is an athlon xp 3200 with 2G of ram01:54
mrmistEven when just resizing a window, the grafics lags considerably01:55
mrmisthehehehe01:55
koshhowever we run it on some latops with 192M of ram with no problems either01:55
koshwow what video card do you have?01:55
mrmistThis is a 1.8 GHz Intel machine with 500 MB ram01:55
mrmistI've got a ATI radeon 9800 Pro01:56
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mrmistI've been wondering if I've set things up in a wrong way01:56
koshare you trying to use any xgl stuff?01:57
mrmistSeems everyone running Linux have a nVidia card these days01:57
mrmisthmm01:57
koshI am using two radeon cards right now01:57
mrmistxgl ? I'm in breezy01:57
kosha 9100 and x85001:57
mrmisttwo ? SLI ?01:57
koshif you don't know what I am talking about then you are not using xgl01:57
mrmistisn't xgl dapper-only ?01:58
koshI have a quad monitors setup so two video cards01:58
mrmistAh.. ok01:58
mrmistBut XGL is dapper, right ?01:58
mrmistXGL and Compiz01:58
mrmistI've read something about it01:59
koshit can be used in dapper but it is not part of dapper01:59
koshonce I have the money I will be replacing this computer and I will get nvidia graphics cards02:00
_Rosen_what is the problem: when im trying to use vlc it shows only the first 15secs of the film. plus the sound is kind of crappy02:01
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_Rosen_what is the problem: when im trying to use vlc it shows only the first 15secs of the film. plus the sound is kind of crappy02:04
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WhyMHello there, did any of you install the del.icio.us sidebar for konqueror?02:06
_Rosen_what is the problem: when im trying to use vlc it shows only the first 15secs of the film. plus the sound is kind of crappy02:06
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mrmistkosh: So you've got ATI and are going to buy nvidia ? Why ?02:11
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koshmrmist: well because the dual opteron board I want to get is an nvidia professional chipset and nvidia cards are supposed to work better with those chipsets then the ati cards02:12
koshmrmist: also I want to be able to aiglx so that more work can be offloaded from the cpu to the graphics cards02:12
mrmistkosh: Do you use xgl in breezy ?02:12
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mrmistalglx ?02:13
koshmrmist: and because the geforce 7900 cardes have dual   dual link dvi connections02:13
koshmrmist: I don't use xgl at all, I have no 3d accel of any kind, I can't get it to work with two radeon cards in the box02:13
koshmrmist: if I take out one card it will work but then I lose two monitors which is not acceptable02:13
mrmistkosh: ah... but still KDE works out well ??02:13
koshmrmist: I already asked nvidia and they support two video cards with 4 moitors and 3d accel on all of them02:13
koshmrmist: yeah kde is working fine02:13
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mrmistkosh: hmm.. what ATI-drivers do you use ?02:14
mrmistflglx ?02:14
DeadS0ulxgl isn't that well support in kde yet apparently02:14
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mrmistactually, my Linux machine is slower when browsing the net, than WinXP02:17
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waylandbillmrmist, I've noticed that using firefox on linux, I don't browse the net completely as fast as under XP sometimes.02:19
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mrmistwaylandbill: yeah.... I know02:19
cfraz89i've been thinking about that02:19
cfraz89and was thinking maybe its because of ipv602:19
mrmistwaylandbill: Even the UI in KDE is slower than the XP user-interface02:19
koshmrmist: I just use the default free ati drivers02:20
koshmrmist: you know the 2d only ones that come with x02:20
koshmrmist: no problems with them at all02:20
mrmisthmm02:20
waylandbillmrmist, I think as time goes on, it'll get better though. It used to be even slower in the past.02:20
mrmistkosh: so you don't have any 3d-accelleration ?02:20
mrmistwaylandbill: hmm... it did ? Strange...02:21
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mrmistwaylandbill: Maybe it's the JRE running in the background :P02:21
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waylandbillIt's faster than vista though. :-)02:22
waylandbillI saw that at a friends house. It was awful.02:23
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mrmistai02:24
mrmisthmm02:24
mrmistI'm reconfiguring xserver-xorg now02:24
mrmistis PCI:1:0:0 the AGP-port ??02:24
cfraz89yep02:24
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mrmistDoesn't linux accellerate the AGP port, or is the PCI just an old name ?02:25
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mrmisthmmm.... "use kernel framebuffer device interface" ?02:26
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dutchmorning02:27
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cfraz89no02:28
cfraz89dont use framebuffer02:28
Kabalis it possible with linux (kubuntu) to log msn messages over own lan?02:29
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apricothow to browse files with konqueror?02:34
apricoti entered google as the default home address02:35
waylandbillapricot, put the filesystem path in the address bar02:35
apricotwich one, how?02:35
waylandbillin the Location, put simply a ~02:36
waylandbillthat'll bring you home02:36
apricotok, got that02:36
waylandbilllike they say... there's no place like $HOME   ;-)02:36
apricotand where is the default page of konqueror?02:36
DeadS0ulapricot: type in /home =D02:36
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apricotthat didnt work02:38
apricotthere was a default page with home icon storage media etc.02:38
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waylandbillapricot, file:///usr/share/apps/konqueror/about/launch.html02:38
waylandbillI suspect you mean that one.02:38
koshmrmist: no I don't have any 3d acceleration under linux02:38
koshmrmist: I can't use the ati binary only driver to do that, however so far I have also had no use for 3d accel of any kind02:39
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mrmistah... I do02:39
koshmrmist: the only reason I want to use nvidia cards on my next box is that with aiglx there is a practical usage for 3d accel, I don't care about any of the effects I care about offloading work from the cpu to the video card02:39
mrmistkosh: I have nice 3d acceleration :)02:39
waylandbillapricot, I like that starting point.. I should edit mine to put google as a "starting point" as well. :-D02:40
koshI write database software, I don't need 3d accel for my work in any way02:40
koshand I have windows for games02:40
apricotlol02:40
apricothow to be root in konqueror?02:41
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v3ctorsudo konqueror02:42
koshalt-f2 kdesu konqueror02:42
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waylandbillit'02:43
waylandbillit'd be nice to have an "Administrator" mode button like control panel does in the konquerer. :-)02:44
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_Rosen_does anyone know the apt-get string for dc++ (thefilesharing prog)02:45
koshah well you are not supposed to be using konqueror as root02:45
koshwhy are you trying to use it as root?02:45
waylandbillkosh, that's a point too. I don't know if I've ever used it as root02:46
mrmistHere's a strange problem though... whenever I scroll my mouse to quick in Firefox, it suddenly browses "back" on step02:46
mrmisttoo quick02:47
koshwaylandbill: hard to justify a feature if you can't think of what it should be used for02:47
_Rosen_does anyone know the apt-get string for dc++ (thefilesharing prog)02:47
waylandbillkosh, very true. :-)02:47
apricotcan i give a user root access?02:48
WhyMchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins        tallation and add the correct paths!02:48
koshWhyM: you need the x devel package02:48
WhyMWhat package do I need to correct this ?02:48
koshapricot: why?02:48
WhyMThanks :-)02:48
apricotto menage files02:48
mrmistgotta boot... bbl :)02:49
mrmistbye02:49
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koshapricot: what kind of files do you have to manage as root?02:49
apricotcopy into root privileged directories02:50
koshlike what are you actually trying to do02:50
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koshwhat directories only writable by root are you trying to regularly copy files into and why?02:51
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waylandbillapricot, you can put the user into admin group, but I have the same questions as kosh. Normally, they wouldn't need access.02:52
koshI don't like answering questions that involve how to load and fire a gun that is aimed at your foot02:53
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koshI first want to know why you are trying to shoot your foot :)02:53
v3ctorwe need a "we won't support you if..." waiver  for those people02:53
apricotexample: /var/www/ folder02:53
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apricotwhere is it http://localhost/*.* located?02:57
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mhterresmorning02:58
mhterreshi Riddell02:58
Riddellhi02:58
apricotis http://localhost/ only in /var/www/ ?02:59
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DeadS0ulyou can to set it in your apache config03:00
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mrmisthmm03:01
mrmistdo anyone know what "xfree86-dga" is ?03:01
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waylandbillI thought apache was made with suexec support. Maybe I'm wrong.03:03
WhyMkosh: Sorry to bother but I can't find the correct name of an x devel package... I thought it was something like xfree86-dev but don't find any in the repositories...03:03
apricotis there another kde file browser ?03:03
vinboywat is the reiserfs version tat comes with ubuntu?03:05
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waylandbillapricot, you can use another file manager such as krusader if you want to. Use whatever you'd be most productive with.03:08
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apricotkrusader is my discovery!03:14
mornfallRiddell: so someone is going to implement that? do they know what they are doing?03:17
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mornfallRiddell: if he wants to do what's in the mockups, then the code is not going into my copy of source, too03:18
koshWhyM: probably someone like xserver-xorg-dev03:20
apricotwhat is katapult for?03:21
koshfor launching cats out of windows of course ;)03:21
waylandbilllol03:22
WhyMMmmh... installing xserver-xorg-dev didn't solve the issue...03:22
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waylandbillit's an application launcher.03:22
apricotdoes it need to be in icontray?03:22
apricoti don't like the look of the icon! :)03:23
koshWhyM: look at apt-cache search xorg dev03:23
koshWhyM:  there are lots of devel files, no idea which you need03:23
WhyMoki, i'll look into it...03:24
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apricotcan konqueror save passwords?03:37
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koshapricot: no however it is not konqueror jobs to do that, kwallet is what stores passwords03:38
koshapricot: however kwallet can store passwords for any kde application and it makes it all encrypted03:38
mark---apricot: to my knowledge konq does not store passwords but KDE wallet will.03:39
Riddelldoes anyone here use kuickshow?03:39
koshI have a few times03:39
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koshwhat question do you have?03:39
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Riddellkosh: just wondering how badly you'd miss it if it disappeared03:42
mhterresRiddell: why disappear ??? don't do this :-)03:43
mhterresIt's a nice program, very easy to use03:43
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Riddellmhterres: it's the last thing in main which uses imlib, an obsolete library03:43
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Riddellmhterres: what's better about it than say gwenview or digikam?03:44
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koshRiddell: mostly I use it from time to time since I have used it in the past, it has worked well when clients send us cds of artwork that we need to put up on a site03:46
koshRiddell: for example we just got a contract and the client has thousands of signs they want to put on the site and it is easy in kuickshow to have it set for fairly large thumbnails and then just scroll through to find what we need03:47
mhterresRiddell: digikam off course03:47
Riddellkosh: can't you just use konqueror?03:47
koshRiddell: I don't know of any way to make the thumbnails that large in konqueror03:48
koshRiddell: with kuickshow you can scale the thumbnails to any size you want03:48
koshRiddell: so we can do 3 inch thunbnails trivially and rescale if needed03:48
Riddellkosh: or gwenview?03:49
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koshgwenview would probably work, just have not looked at it in years03:50
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koshRiddell: isn't kuickshow part of kdemultimedia?03:57
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tomplasthi03:59
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tomplastcan anyone tell me why i only get grayscale on tv-out with nvtv?03:59
zaikxtoxhello. does kubuntu installer on 6.06 still erases partitions?04:00
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WhyMOn live version, it did to me yesterday...04:02
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tomplastanyone :'(04:03
tomplasti really  wanna watch go open source on my tv :'(/04:03
apricothow to run kwallet at startup?04:04
apricotand my dsl connection does not run at startup!04:05
koshjust run it once and it should run from then on at startup04:05
koshyour dsl connection should happen at boot up not at kde startup04:05
Riddellkosh: kdegraphics04:05
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Riddellzaikxtox: use the daily-live c04:06
RiddellCD04:06
koshno idea why it is not, I have been using dsl for years with a nice external cisco router and it just works with everything04:06
apricotit does in dnome04:06
apricotgnome04:06
koshRiddell: in which case why would it be removed if it is a default part of kde?04:06
zaikxtoxthanks Riddell04:06
Riddellkosh: because we want imlib1 out of main, and kuickshow is the last thing to use it04:07
koshRiddell: ah, why is there a push to remove imlib1?04:07
koshit looks like it is less then a meg in size so why does it matter?04:08
Riddellkosh: it's obsoleted by imlib2 (which kuickshow can't use unfortunately), and it's very bad for a long term release to have obsolete libraries in it04:08
Riddellthere's no security for imlib104:08
koshare there any security problems in it?04:09
koshif a library is obsolted but no known issues why not leave it alone?04:09
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Riddellkosh: no known security problems but if any appear there's nobody to fix them04:09
koshso until one appears why not leave it alone?04:10
Riddellbecause we have to release with something we can support for 5 years04:10
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koshwell that won't happen anyways04:11
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Riddellwhat won't?04:12
koshthe version of perl you ship now will probably not be supported in 5 years by the perl developers04:12
koshsame for python, gcc, x etc04:12
koshkde only supports the most recent version so you know that is out also04:12
waylandbillif it's using an obsoleted library, it's life cycle is limited too unless it's rewritten to use the replacement.04:12
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koshI just don't like removing software that is not broken and works pretty well04:14
koshit just seems pointless04:14
koshit just seems strange04:15
vinboyi just formatted my partition as reiserfs, how do I mount it now??04:16
v3ctoryou have to end supprt at some point04:16
v3ctorwhy not now04:16
koshheck dapper has python 2.1 and 2.3 and neither of those are really supported anymore however a lot of stuff depends on both of them04:16
koshv3ctor: it seems as long as it is a default part of kde it should be left in04:16
koshv3ctor: let kde remove it or update it04:17
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WhyMIs it normal the Synaptic package wouldn't add a K menu entry?04:20
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HymnToLifeWhyM> add it yourself than ;)04:24
HymnToLifethen*04:24
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prowerHello everyone :> I just installed KDE 3.5.2 in Breezy...for some reason, kcm_konsole.la is missing from the konsole package? Is there any way this can be fixed?04:28
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chowells2_just installed dapper flight 6. After the initial install, on booting, should installation continue to configure X and stuff?04:31
HymnToLifedapper issues on #ubuntu+1 please :)04:31
chowells2_ok thanks04:32
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v3ctorprower: try reinstalling konsole package04:33
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mhterresHey Riddell04:55
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Riddellhmm?04:55
prowerv3ctor: Oh, sorry for the delay...I did try that, but the file still appears to be missing. One message on a forum suggested that they're not even in the DEB04:55
mhterresKubuntu will be distributed in CDs like Ubuntu Dapper ?04:56
mhterresor in DVDs ?04:56
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dverzollaanyone knows when the beta2 off dapper drake be released?04:56
dverzollaI'm getting the error of 6.06 in the espresso04:58
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mhterresRiddell: is it possible ?04:59
mhterrescause kubuntu could gain lots of new users if it have a free CD05:00
Riddellmhterres: we'll have "Desktop CD", "Text Installer CD" and DVD05:00
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Riddellthe Desktop CD will be in shipit for free05:00
Riddelldverzolla: today05:01
Riddelldverzolla: (probably)05:01
mhterresRiddell: It'll be distribuited in shipit.ubuntu.com ?05:01
Riddellmhterres: yes, that's the plan05:02
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mhterresmhterres: Ohh, great05:02
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mhterresI was talking with aseigo in fisl last week and I was telling him that we had a LTSP installation with about 1000 terminals, running Ubuntu05:03
mhterresHe asks me if we were using KDE but I we are using gnome, because the people doesn't know Kubuntu05:03
mhterresbecause they receive the ubuntu CDs and uses Gnome05:04
dverzollaRiddell, its possible to download they from some CVS?05:04
mhterres:-(05:04
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dverzollaRiddell, the lastest version...05:04
Riddelldverzolla: we don't keep CDs in CVS :)  but these are expected to become beta 2 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060427/05:05
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iqonis there a way to open gtk apps with the current gnome theme when using kde?05:05
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mhterresRiddell: so it's very important to have Kubuntu CDs to ship to people, so they can use it and distribute to their friends :-)05:05
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Riddellmhterres: yeah, shipit will be great05:06
mhterresnice Riddell05:06
mhterresI think I'll ask for 1 box of Ubuntu and a box of Kubuntu :-D05:06
waylandbillshipit would be awesome05:07
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dverzollaRiddell, Your opinion, I wait to beta 2 or install the dayli-live ?05:07
Riddelldverzolla: try the daily-live, I don't see any reasons for any kubuntu changes for beta 205:08
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dverzollaRiddell, in the page: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/dapper-beta.php05:09
dverzollaShow the note: there is a bug in the live CD installer known to cause data loss, please wait for beta 2 before using it.05:10
Riddelldverzolla: what about it?05:11
dverzollaRiddell, I will try the daily-live ;) tks05:11
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bertWhy is there so many changes of the same file all the time/ Should we just not download some files and wait a while to download otheres05:13
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_palouhow can install mplayer in my kubuntu??05:14
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robotgeekpalou: install usinf adept, after enabling universe05:16
palouhow can install mpalyer in my kubuntu?? (pm me)05:17
v3ctorhttp://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/index.htm#mplayer05:17
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munzirHi, In konqueror there is a google search box. If I searched for anything it would auto suggest other searches and gives some sizes, what's this? where is it documented?05:17
robotgeekmunzir: it's the google suggest plugin, you need to enable it from Tools -> Plugins (maybe)05:18
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munzirrobotgeek: and what that size like 'linux (2000G)' means?05:21
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DeadS0ul1how's sata support under linux?05:26
Kamping_Kaiseras long as your not booting it fine05:27
palouwhen i try to install mplayer i take this error05:27
Kamping_Kaiserif your booting, it can be edgy05:27
paloupalou@MadPower:/wolf$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-38605:27
palouReading package lists... Done05:27
palouBuilding dependency tree... Done05:27
palouE: Couldn't find package mplayer-38605:27
DeadS0ul1really05:28
DeadS0ul1weird it's been out for a while05:28
Kamping_Kaiserpalou, make sure you have multiverse enabled.05:28
justanotheruserkonqueror popup blockers doesn't work on www.mvv.nl  Should i report this on launchpad or bugd.kde.org?05:28
justanotheruser*bugS05:28
Kamping_KaiserDeadS0ul, that was last time i tried b ooting. its been a while05:28
DeadS0ul1how long is a while?05:28
Kamping_Kaiserjustanotheruser, if you have an accouth with kde, do them05:28
Kamping_KaiserDeadS0ul, over 12 months05:28
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v3ctorpalou: sorry...work pulled me away05:29
justanotheruserKamping_Kaiser: alright (i have yes..)05:29
v3ctorpalou: you need to add repo for it05:30
Kamping_Kaiserjustanotheruser, thanks. its worth checking both BTS's for a note on the bug already, butw05:30
Kamping_Kaiser*btw05:30
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justanotheruserKamping_Kaiser: yeah, i should check what code initiate the popup first. Dunno if i can trigger it though, but i'll do my best05:32
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munzirKamping_Kaiser: DeadS0ul1: sata boots fine for me05:44
palouthx! no i will try to install java05:44
vgehey, how do i update my eth0 after i have changed from dhcp back to static in non GUI interface? ifup nor /etc/init.d/networking restart will not reconfiqure the networkcard?05:45
Kamping_Kaisermunzir, cool :) i'll bear it in mind05:45
Kamping_Kaiservge, make sure you have eth? auto in /etc/network/interfaces (eth? is the ethernet card in question)05:46
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DeadS0ul1vge, two lines05:47
vgeKaiser_Away: it has, and yes, ethernet card is in question05:47
DeadS0ul1in /etc/network/interfaces, instead of static, change it to dhcp and comment out all the addresses/netmask etc etc05:47
vgeyes, that works for dhcp, but when i come back to static i need to reboot as i see it05:48
vge!pastebin05:48
ubotuwell, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126905:48
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vgehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12975 <-- this occures when i change back to static?05:50
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epHow do I create a sym-link to another folder using the Konqueror file browser.  The right click menu presents "Create new" --> (1)Link to application (2) link to url (3) link to url.  Where is the link to file or folder?06:03
nonamehi there anyone have few minutes to help a total newbie with installing programs *running linux first time 1 hour ago"06:03
ep(3) link to device I mean06:03
HymnToLifeep> what's wrong with the command line ?06:04
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epi love the command line.  sometimes its more convient to use konq if you already there06:04
HymnToLifeit's quite easy : (sudo) ln -s /pth/to/target /path/tolink06:04
apokryphosnoname: sure. In GNU/Linux most of the software that you'll find is licensed as "Free Software" (that was the original mission of GNU)06:04
apokryphosnoname: because of this, all the packages can be packaged for particular distributions however you like, and then held in repositories06:05
apokryphosnoname: other package managers, now, can automatically interact with such repositories to automatically download+install applications seamlessly. It's very effective.06:05
nonameok . for example i want to install firefox i went to the site and then downloaded the program . when i extract it and then enter the folder click on firefox nothing happens06:05
apokryphosnoname: in Kubuntu, the graphical package manager used is "Adept". Fire it up by going to K Menu > System > Adept (Package Manager), IIRC.06:06
apokryphosnoname: nope, that's the beauty of GNU/Linux. :) You don't have to surf to any site to get it.06:06
HymnToLife!tel noname about ff1.506:06
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife06:06
HymnToLife!tell noname about ff1.506:06
apokryphosHymnToLife: better get him using the standard ff that comes with Kubuntu first06:06
HymnToLifeapokryphos> well, for firefox you have to ;)06:06
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apokryphosHymnToLife: nope, not adding repositories or any other stuff. Quick n' dirty adept installing :)06:07
justanotheruserKamping_Kaiser: it's the javascript "window.open" that initiate the popup, this works while the permissions for javascript in konqueror settings is set to intelligent. Dunno if this a bug then, because what actually does intelligent, i dunno...06:07
HymnToLifeapokryphos> well the standard ff that comes with Ubuntu sucks06:07
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apokryphosHymnToLife: that depends a lot on what you're using it for. And anyhow, this is to demonstrate a point (of how the vast majority of installations will be done).06:07
HymnToLifeof course06:08
nonamehow i can private msg ?06:08
HymnToLifebut not ALL of them ;)06:08
apokryphosnoname: /query username06:08
HymnToLifenoname> you have to register your nickname06:08
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apokryphos!register06:08
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:08
HymnToLife/msg nickserv register password email06:08
nonameok let me register06:08
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Saaidahymntolife : can i prv msg u ?06:13
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HymnToLifeof course :)06:14
noteventimeWhat license does kdelibs use? GPL+Qt?06:14
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apokryphosnoteventime: LGPL06:18
noteventimeok :), How does that work with QT?06:18
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apokryphosnoteventime: what do you mean?06:19
apokryphosLGPL software is still "free software"06:20
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noteventimeIsn't there some QT code in the kdelibs, or does it just use them?06:20
apokryphosKDE is Qt-based, yes.06:20
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apokryphosnoteventime: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/licensing.html06:21
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apokryphosnote however that the Qt license changed for Qt406:22
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noteventimeHow?06:23
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apokryphosQt4 for Windoze is GPL'd06:23
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noteventimeahhh, Thats why they are porting the KDE libs to windows06:24
DeadS0ul1qt is gpl for windows n..that's the change right?06:24
apokryphoshttp://www.trolltech.com/newsroom/announcements/00000192.html06:24
noteventimethanks :)06:24
apokryphosDeadS0ul: yes06:24
apokryphosnoteventime: yup, exactly06:24
rmn30hi folks06:24
noteventime'ello06:24
rmn30is anyone having problems with amarok these days?06:24
noteventimermn30, no :)06:25
noteventimeWhich version?06:25
rmn30it segfaults right after i start it and i can't think what i might have done06:25
rmn30the one in kubuntu.org repositories 1.3.806:25
apokryphostry upgrading06:25
noteventime:/ Thats wierd, did you build any libs lately?06:26
apokryphoshttp://kubuntu.org for list of latest amarok packs06:26
rmn30not manually06:26
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rmn30i'm on breezy not dapper06:26
rmn30can i use those packages?06:26
apokryphosnoteventime: not many people are building libs on kde4, it's still a bit of landmine 8)06:26
apokryphosand plus, cmake will take some getting used to06:26
rmn30i'm building from source now so i can get some decent debug info06:27
apokryphosrmn30: hm, nope.06:27
apokryphosrmn30: if you're building from source you might as well used latest amarok :)06:27
noteventimeI'm using 1.4-beta3 works like a charm :)06:28
rmn30true - if build-deps are satisfied06:28
apokryphosrmn30: sudo apt-get build-dep amarok libtag (or whatever the pack is called)06:28
apokryphos!search libtag breezy06:28
ubotuapokryphos: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:28
apokryphos!find libtag breezy06:28
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'libtag' (8 shown): libtag1-dev ;; libtag1-doc ;; libtag1c2 ;; libtagc0 ;; libtagc0-dev ;; libtagcoll-dev ;; libtagcoll0c2 ;; libtagcoll1-dev.06:28
apokryphoscurious n aming scheme. libtag1c2 I guess06:28
rmn30ok guess i'll have a much around06:29
noteventimermn30, Why are you still on breezy?06:29
rmn30how do i enable debugging symbols when building?06:31
noteventimegive the compiler the -g argument06:31
noteventime--enable-debug06:31
noteventimefor make06:31
rmn30if using dpkg-buildpackage?06:32
noteventimeI have no idea ^^, never used it06:32
rmn30ok06:32
rmn30thanks folks06:32
noteventimeI think --enable-debug there too06:32
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rmn30noteventime : i'm using this machine for working and don't want to break too much stuff06:35
rmn30also college have complained about bandwidth usage06:36
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noteventimehaha :)06:36
rmn30:-)06:36
noteventimeToo used to windows update AKA ONE-PUNY-UPDATE-A-YEAR06:36
leagrishow about bugs reported since 2004/08 still present in kde. I am not programmer nor do I have enough knowledge to avoid it but here it is if you know more about how to fix it: https://bugs.kde.org/show_activity.cgi?id=8420906:37
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leagrisoups bug here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8420906:38
UbugtuKDE bug 84209 in general "kmix doesn't show newly plugged devices (i.e. usb microphone)" [Wishlist,New] 06:38
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noteventimeIt's on the Wishlist :)06:39
leagrisalternatively, is ther another mixer that would work around until kmix become hotplug aware ?06:40
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noteventimeAre you sure KMix isn't? Never tried06:40
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leagriswhat do you mean noteventime. Kmix doesn't use udev notifications so if you plug a new mixer device it doesn't show up. You need to quit/restart kmix.06:41
noteventimeCould be fixed by now but the bugtracker wasn't updated06:41
srednaSo, after last update my fonts are tiny-tiny-tiny :(06:42
leagrisThen if you unplug a mixer device shown on Kmix. Kmix takes 100% CPU until you kill it06:42
krilleHello! Someon from sweden  in here?06:42
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noteventimeYes06:42
noteventimeme06:42
noteventimehejsan06:42
krilleVa bra! :D Jag har precis installerat Kubuntu, helt ny vad det gller linux06:42
krilleMen jag behlver lite hjlp06:42
noteventimeOnly english in here, join #kubuntu-se06:42
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noteventimenot official :D06:43
waylandbillnoteventime, hehe06:45
srednaWhich package contains the xorg.conf manpage?06:45
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DeadS0ulheh06:46
DeadS0ullemme check06:46
srednaI'ts not a proper installation with no xorg.conf manual!06:46
DeadS0ulxserver-org06:46
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DeadS0ulack wait there's isn't one there06:48
srednaMaybe it's in ubuntudocs, which I had to uninstall at some point because it was broken06:48
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srednaAnyway, I fail to understand why an update had to delete my config data06:49
DeadS0ulwerid06:50
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steveklThis is a bit off-topic but is it normal for me to get good results with anti-aliasing on a CRT monitor,  but on my LCD display it makes fonts worse?06:50
Brujahhy everbody06:50
mhterreshi06:51
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noteventime'ello06:51
noteventimestevekl, I don't think so :)06:51
Brujahwhen I get my mails with kmail the whole program becomes unusable and I have to wait until the download finishes. Has anybody encountered the same problem? (I am using dapper drake)06:51
steveklsome fonts look better with AA06:52
steveklsome don't06:52
steveklI guess I configured something wrong06:52
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fjellrev1some of my windows are "too big" for my desktop,they go under,beyond my desktop and I cant resize the windows,is this normal?06:57
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MezRiddell: ping07:00
HymnToLife!tell Saaida about ff1.507:01
noteventimefjellrev01, hold down alt and drag the window07:01
fjellrev1noteventime: eureeeeka!thanks a lot07:02
noteventimenp :)07:02
Mezwhat package was it i need for mp3 playbvack again?07:03
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amel .07:05
amel?07:05
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amelHow to setup icq?07:05
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Mezamel - run kopete - it gives you a wizard on first run07:06
WhyMamel: Have you tried with Kopete ?07:07
amelNo, I  haven't?07:07
BrujahMez: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28formats%2907:07
WhyMGo to K menu>Internet>Kopete07:08
MezBrujah, cheers! It's been a while since I've set up a system from scratch!07:08
Mezthough I still dunno if I can get the sound card working...it's being annoying07:08
BrujahMez: I am also new to kununtu but already totally in love! :-)07:08
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amelIt's my first time in Kubuntu07:09
amelAnd I have a problem with audio07:10
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srednaSince installing kubuntu-docs didn't buy me a copy of the xorg.conf manual, can anyone remember the syntax for specifying the screen dimemsions?07:12
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robotgeek!fixres07:13
ubotufixres is, like, totally, Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:13
robotgeeksredna: ^^07:13
srednaI do NOT need to fix my resolution, I need to restore my configuration data which kubuntu deleted07:14
robotgeeksredna, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:14
robotgeekif kubuntu overwrote something, it must have backed it up in /etc/X11/07:15
srednarobotgeek: Ty07:15
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robotgeeksredna: is this dapper beta?07:15
srednaYes07:16
justanotheruserguys, before i report a bug on kde.org... What actually IS the "smart" setting for javascript pop-up blocking in konqueror?07:16
noteventime!pastebin07:16
ubotuhmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126907:16
Emessamel: go to K menu > internet > kopete and add a new account for icq07:16
robotgeekjustanotheruser: i think if it a popup u click, it allows it, otherwise discards it07:17
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|lostbyte|Anyone here having an ovislink wifi dogle ? pls use my name to reply..07:17
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robotgeek|lostbyte|: have you check the !wireless page?07:17
Emessand for all ew users, i recomend automatix, its great for getting basic codecs and stuff set up07:18
justanotheruserrobotgeek: i have the same thought ( www.mvv.nl is a bug then, i'll report it now...)07:18
robotgeek!automatix07:18
ubotuwell, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.07:18
|lostbyte|robotgeek: wireless page ?07:18
robotgeek|lostbyte|: check pm from ubotu :)07:18
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|lostbyte|robotgeek: oh ! that.. ok..07:19
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robotgeekEmess: please don't recommend automatix.07:19
|lostbyte|robotgeek: :( its not on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards07:20
robotgeek|lostbyte|: do you know what chipset it is (lsusb )07:20
|lostbyte|robotgeek: just a sec..07:20
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|lostbyte|robotgeek: Bus 005 Device 005: ID 0457:0163 Silicon Integrated Systems Corp.07:21
robotgeek|lostbyte|: you should have a link to linux wireless card list on !wireless, check it there07:22
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|lostbyte|wants you to know: I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers07:23
|lostbyte|thats what it says..07:23
robotgeek|lostbyte|: moment07:23
srednaGod damn it all07:23
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|lostbyte|k07:23
srednaWhere can I get an xorg.conf.5? Even the one found by googld is not existing07:24
robotgeek|lostbyte|: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Ovislink&zoek=Show07:24
robotgeeksredna: you mean the man page?07:24
srednarobotgeek: Yes, because kubunto FAILS TO ONSTALL IT07:24
srednaInstall07:24
srednaDamn it07:24
robotgeeksredna: patience :)07:25
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osh_sredna: Which version? I've got it in breezy. You on dapper?07:25
|lostbyte|robotgeek: :( darn.. mines 5460usb..07:26
Saaidadoes anyone know how to disable the single click and return to double click on konqueror ?07:26
perzivanwhere is the default install path to kopete if you installed it with the package manager07:26
robotgeek|lostbyte|: so it isn't on that list, <sigh>07:26
osh_perzivan: /usr/bin/kopete07:27
Brujahperzivan: ~/.kde/apps07:28
perzivanThank you osh07:28
osh_perzivan: or that's where the binary is anyway.07:28
perzivanoh, I will check both, thanks to you both. I am trying to locate a log file from an old conversation07:28
Brujahparz: puhh. guess that was wrong :-(07:29
robotgeek|lostbyte|: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=341007:29
Brujahparz: ~/.kde/share/apps07:29
osh_perzivan: log-files are probably not in /usr/bin. Have a look in your home-dir (perhaps .konversation or something) or in /usr/log/07:29
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osh_perzivan: no, /var/log naturally07:30
DeadS0ulbed time07:30
DeadS0ulnite guys07:30
srednaNow, is there a way I can prevent kubuntu from overwriting my config data?07:30
perzivanokay =)07:30
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Saaidadoes anyone know how to disable the single click and return to double click on konqueror ?07:31
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srednaSaaida: In the mouse configuration control module07:32
waylandbillSaaida: in the control center.07:33
srednaThe kde one07:33
MEtaLpREshas anyone had any success installing w32codecs or flash on amd64 version?07:33
waylandbillPersonally, I love the single click, it feels more like surfing the web. :-)07:33
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robotgeeksredna: backup your .kde and resotre it later? (sorry, cheap but works?)07:33
srednarobotgeek: That will not keep /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:34
robotgeeksredna: hmm, i misunderstood.07:34
osh_MEtaLpREs: Sure, but you need to do it in a chroot that has the 32-bit binaries. w32codecs don't work well in 64-bit. Not the last time I tried anyway.07:34
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robotgeeksredna: prevent it from overwriting when?07:35
HymnToLifeosh_> not anymore, ther's a way to use w32codecs on a 64 bit system, hold on a sec07:35
HymnToLifehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439907:35
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HymnToLife!w32codecs07:35
ubotuI guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:35
srednarobotgeek: Appearently, updating some x related package07:35
Brujahis there a way to remove the spam checking from kmail after invoking the assistant once?07:36
osh_HymnToLife: oh, ok. havent tried it in a while.07:36
MEtaLpREsthanks, i'll give that a shot07:36
jobezonesredna: if you already have ubuntu installed, you can install the kubuntu metapackage (is it kubuntu-desktop) and the /etc/X11/xorg.conf won't be touched as all, as it's handled by the xserver-xorg package. But probably you're using a non-ubuntu distro now?07:36
HymnToLife!no w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install. To use w32codecs on a 64-bit system, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439907:36
ubotuHymnToLife: okay07:36
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srednajobezone: I have kubuntu installed07:37
jobezonesredna: nevermind, just saw your reply before07:37
srednaUpdating messed up my X config07:37
srednaI restored it07:38
srednaNow I'd love to keep it (though I might remember the name of the option for some time)07:38
perzivanBye! and thanks again for the help. I found what I was looking for07:39
jobezonesredna: if you're only changes where done to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then you can make a backup of it. Also, I think that this file is automatically backed up (copied to a similar name and the date) if the system(which part, I don't know) notices it has been customized when upgrading.07:40
srednaOk07:40
srednaThank yoiu07:40
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shadow_robotgeek: hi ! back..07:41
shadow_robotgeek: HAve you used ndiswrapper ?07:41
jobezoneyou'll probably notice you have files called xorg.conf.20060309121207:41
robotgeekshadow_: nope, i am on ppc07:41
jobezonein the /etc/X11 directory.07:41
robotgeekshadow_: the wiki page is quite nice, i think07:42
mennohi!  is there someone who uses twinview in Dapper? (and succeeded?)07:42
shadow_robotgeek: I am in a situation where the ndiswrapper loads the driver and does'nt display the config ..07:42
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syniehello07:45
imbrandonmenno, lots of poeple just search the forums ( i dont personaly but i've seen lots of successfull threads about it )07:45
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mennoimbrandon: yes i did as well but it just did not work07:47
syniei want to add a beamer to my notebook. what do i need to change ? do i need do add any changes to the xorg.conf ?07:47
mennoimbrandon: i even tried one out in french!07:47
imbrandonouch07:48
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mennoi can talk french now07:48
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imbrandoni'm sorry ;) lol j/k07:49
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mennobien sur07:49
imbrandonbrb coffee break07:49
mennobon apetit07:50
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nonamei just got this error when i try to run upgrade . the system crashed and then rebooted it and now i get an error08:13
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Armagguedeshello08:13
nonameskype: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installed08:13
Armagguedesim running on dapper; does anyone know if i need special drivers to access DL dvds?08:13
nonameit was after unsuccesfull try of installing skype08:14
Armagguedesi know this DL is properly burned08:14
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egonw_hi all, any can help me setting up apache/tomcat on dapper?08:18
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egonw_"sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" does not do much :(08:19
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nonameanyone is up now ?08:31
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osh_noname: I am.08:34
rmn30anyone home?08:34
osh_rmn30: yes08:34
rmn30hi08:34
rmn30do you use amarok?08:34
osh_rmn30: yes. a little.08:34
rmn30i have a file that reliably causes it to crash on my machine08:34
osh_rmn30: I have one of those too. I use it to crash kaffeine.08:35
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rmn30would you mind trying to play this http://people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/rmn30/01 Clandestino.mp308:36
rmn30thought it might be worth filing a bug report08:36
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osh_rmn30: oh yess. it does crash amarok.08:38
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osh_rmn30: if you report it as a bug I'll provide a stack-trace.08:40
rmn30just compiling from source now08:41
rmn30so should be able to do stack trace myself08:41
rmn30i'm not on dapper but using amarok from kubuntu repositories08:41
rmn30so its reasonably up to date08:41
osh_rmn30: if you're reporting it, perhaps it's better to report the one with the distribution?08:42
osh_rmn30: it appears that there's something weird in the file because it just does a shutdown in the middle of a "read".08:42
rmn30hmmm08:42
rmn30yes it does glitch in other players i've tried sometimes08:43
rmn30but amarok still shouldn't crash..08:43
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rmn30ok i'm going to try with a dapper live cd to see if its still current08:46
rmn30actually probably related to this https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/2463908:48
UbugtuMalone bug 24639 in amarok "mp3s encoded by iTunes that have album art cause amarok to crash" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 08:48
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HymnToLifeoh08:48
HymnToLifeso THAT's why my mp3s didn't work08:48
osh_rmn30: it appears that there's something weird in the file because it just does a shutdown in the middle of a "read".wqqq^ghhy5rhyyu7hrymnjhiuop08:48
osh_y C,l.08:49
osh_jllbj uyorft5408:49
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osh_sorry, that was my son...08:49
nico8481hehe08:50
rmn30he he08:50
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buzhas anyne ever had any success with dual head config in guidance?08:52
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jarleHow do I go about to remove the MARK in /var/log/messages that syslogd puts there every 20 mins?08:54
crimsunyou don't w/o recompiling the source08:56
crimsunthe mark is a good thing08:56
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osh_Anyone know anything about hardware accel on a dell d810 (VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5460). Last I heard it was too new to get it to work.08:59
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krenxhow do I use the ftp client in Kubuntu ?09:02
rmn30have you tried konqueror?09:03
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krenxftp://blabla:blabla@ip       ?09:04
rmn30yes should work09:04
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krenxyea, but in adept is says theres a ftp client installed09:05
rmn30or just miss out the username and password and just use the ftp://ip09:05
rmn30oh09:05
krenx(by default)09:05
rmn30what's it called?09:05
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rmn30oh09:06
rmn30that is the command line one09:06
metalpresmaybe someone can help me with this, everytime I try to install the drivers for my radeon card my computer then wont boot, it freezes at the same spot when booting at "Checking battery state" or something and wont go any further09:06
rmn30probably best to steer clear of that unless you have a good reason09:06
rmn30what about kbear?09:06
rmn30that is installed on my system09:07
rmn30type ALT+F2 then type kbear09:07
jarleAfter installing Ubuntu my files with Norwegian letters in the filename is not displayed correctly, this happens both in terminal and when running X. Any ideas?09:07
metalpresthe only way I can get my computer to boot back up is to completely wipe everything out and reinstall kubuntu, is there an easier way to fix this without having to reformat?09:07
rmn30sorry don't know anything about radeo cards09:08
rmn30but you could try booting from a live cd09:08
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rmn30jarle: are you using gnome-terminal?09:09
rmn30or konsole09:09
rmn30(forgot i was in the kubuntu channel...)09:09
nonameanyone is alive that can help with sound problem ?09:10
jarlermn30: I see this problem in both Konqueror, Eterm and in the console (not running X)09:10
osh_Direct rendering is something that should be running isn't it?09:11
uniqjarle: are the filenames UTF-8 ?09:11
rmn30probably09:11
metalpresi think im going to dump the amd64 copy and just use i386, this is just so much hassle, nothing works right on amd6409:11
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GMullenHello09:11
jarleuniq: not quite sure, the contain the letter "09:11
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krenxrmn30: u know any good ftp client ?09:12
rmn30metalpres: particularly not closed source drivers for graphics cards i bet09:12
rmn30krenx : which ones have you used?09:12
jarleosh_: I think Direct Rendering should be running if you want to get some speed from you gfx-card..09:12
GMullenis there any other way to fix the resoultion other then in !fixres link09:12
krenxrmn30: flashfxp09:12
krenxfor windows.09:13
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osh_jarle: I think so too but I'm not sure that it works on this laptop. Or rather, it appears that I have to choose between suspend and direct rendering.09:13
rmn30krenx: try kbear, konqueror, gftp09:14
uniqjarle: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' - check /etc/environment and check the LANG= variable. To use UTF-8 set it to LANG=en_US.UTF-8 for english utf-8, LANG=nb_NO.UTF-8 for norwegian bokml.09:14
jarleosh_: I thought that you only had to make sure that the DRI module was loaded by X?09:15
osh_metalpres: my observation too. but I'm thinking of giving it another go soon again though. I haven't tried it in about  a year.09:15
osh_jarle: how do I do that? Isn't that automatic?09:16
metalpresi dont even see any performance boost using 64bit, there jsut isnt enough software written for 64bit to make the hassle worth it, and by the time it is worth using 64bit my 3700+ is going to be slow and useless...09:17
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jarleosh_: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf make sure you have "Load    "dri"" under Section "Module"09:19
noteventime!knetworkmanager09:19
ubotunoteventime: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:19
noteventime!networkmanager09:19
ubotu[networkmanager]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto09:19
osh_jarle: That's what I thought. Still glxinfo sais that there's no direct rendering. :-(09:20
jarleuniq: is it better to use utf-8 than ISO?09:20
jarleosh_: then have a look at the log for X and see if it is loaded at startup or if there is some kind of problem..09:21
osh_jarle: Errors are marked EE aren't they?09:21
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uniqwell, if your files are all utf-8 i guess it is. I use ISO myself because all my files with  are ISO.09:22
jarleosh_: jeah... try grep dri /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:22
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osh_jarle: Nope, no errors there and the dri appears to load without problem.09:23
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rmn30bye09:24
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noteventimeis there any way to get knetworkmanager in breezy?'09:25
noteventimeI'm using it in dapper and it is fantastic :D09:26
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jarleHow do I check if I have installed the source for the kernel I am running?09:28
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jarle(not quite familiar with apt yet)09:28
amelHOW TO SETUP AUDIO DRIVER???1109:28
noteventimeTake a look in adept :)09:28
noteventimeamel, HOW DO I TURN OF CAPSLOCK :D09:29
mornfallamel: that's a joke right09:29
mornfallnoteventime: you forgot !!109:29
mornfalloneone09:29
osh_jarle: dpkg -l | grep kernel?09:29
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amelI' first time in kubuntu09:29
noteventime:D np09:29
noteventimeAre you sure your volume isn't turned down? :D09:30
amelVolume is ok09:30
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noteventimeDid you take a look in kmix09:31
noteventimemaybe you've muted the master channel09:31
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justanotheruserehm, i have a problem with konqueror. Sometimes when i tried to download a file from a website that is php based, i get to ask to save the file download.php.09:36
justanotheruserCould this be kget related?09:36
justanotheruserfor instance: http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Dead-Pixel-Tester-Download-28480.html09:37
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noteventimeI've had the same problem09:38
noteventimeYou need to associate konqueror with php files09:38
justanotheruseryeah if i could disable kget for downloads in konqueror then it be solved, but i've searched my ass off....09:39
justanotheruser*could09:39
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noteventimeI don't think you'll need to09:40
krenxAnyone knows if the newest Nvidia drivers support geforece4 ti4200 ?09:40
osh_the fglrx-files in the repos, are they the closed source ones or the open ones?09:40
justanotheruserdamn, a rightclick on the systray.09:40
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justanotherusernoteventime: yes disabling kget solved it here09:40
ubuntuhello09:40
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Gonellahello09:40
GonellaAnybody there?09:40
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noteventimeyes09:41
noteventime:D09:41
GonellaHi09:42
jarleI am running kernel 2.6.12, but I am unable to find the corresponding kernel-source??09:42
GonellaIm new here09:42
justanotheruserso, i sense this might be a bug that kget isn't well integrated in konqueror09:42
ubijtsaGonella: new to IRC, Ubuntu, Linux or all of them? :)09:42
Gonellaa little bit of them09:43
ubijtsaGonella: okay, welcome anyways, hope you like it here :)09:43
GonellaNew in ubuntu (1 month), new in linux (2 years) and new in the IRC (1 min)09:43
GonellaThanks09:43
GonellaI try to learn more from Kubuntu09:43
ubijtsaGonella: we try and help if there are questions, and there is the mailing lists as well09:44
GonellaOk09:44
GonellaThank you09:44
ubijtsanp09:44
jpatrickand forums09:44
GonellaI know it09:44
GonellaIm playing with kubuntu dapper Live Cd09:44
GonellaIm just trying09:44
ubijtsajpatrick: I am sure the forums are useful, but I still believe they should be disconnected from the ML's09:44
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GonellaBye. thank you all09:46
krenxERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before09:46
krenx         installing.09:46
krenxhow do i exit the X server? :)09:46
ubijtsajarle: sometimes configuring INN can be a pita ;)09:46
ubijtsakrenx: c-a-f1, log in, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop09:47
jarleubijtsa: configuring e-mail is just as demanding as setting up a news-reader..09:47
krenxubijtsa, and how do i get back too linux again?09:48
ubijtsajarle: a nntp client is easy, a r/w nntp server is a different matter09:48
ubijtsakrenx: /etc/init.d/kdm start09:48
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ubijtsaprefixed by sudo probably09:48
jarleubijtsa: no need to run a server to read news, leave the "hard" stuff to the pros :)09:49
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ubijtsajarle: I thought you ment Canonical to run a news.ubuntu.com instead of the mailing lists09:50
nico8481reminds me of my first steps with linux :) i was asking how to get my mail client to work, people explained me how to setup sendmail+fetchmail :-)09:51
ubijtsa*grin*09:51
nico8481or was it postfix? don't remember :p09:51
osh_www.epostmail.org <- now that's a cool concept. Not sure it's efficient, but it's sure cool.09:51
noteventimeIs there any way to get knetwork-manager in breezy?09:53
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noteventimeknetworkmanager*09:53
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jpatricknoteventime: not that I know of09:55
noteventime:(09:55
nonamecan anyone tell me how to verify if the kubuntu installed my sound driver correctly ( when i tried livecd there was sound )09:55
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noteventimenoname, try going into "system settings" from the kde menu (main menu)09:57
noteventimeThen sound and multimedia -> button saying "test sound"09:58
nonamei did , hear nothing . on the hardware it is set autodetect09:58
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crimsunnoname: pastebin: ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''09:59
tmdx120hell room. I have a quesion regarding editing X11 files.10:00
krenxhi, i would like to have help with installing nvidia gfx-driver, i get this:10:00
krenxNo precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; would you li10:00
krenx   ke the installer to attempt to download a kernel interface for your kernel f10:00
krenx   rom the NVIDIA ftp site (ftp://download.nvidia.com)? (Answer: Yes)10:00
nonamecrimsun : did not understand what u mean ?10:00
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crimsunnoname: I gave you a command enclosed in quotes. Paste that into a Konsole. Take the output from that command and paste it into the text entry box at http://kubuntu.pastebin.com10:01
noteventimekrenx, are you installing from apt?10:04
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nonameCrimsun : and what to do after that ?10:05
brainbughello everybody10:05
crimsunnoname: you tell me the url10:05
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krenxnoteventime: nope10:06
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nonamehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/68561810:06
noteventimekrenx, any reason?10:06
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nonamethat's the url10:06
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krenxnoteventime: but i will now, thx for mention it :P10:07
noteventimekrenx, np :)10:07
krenxNvidia-glx ?10:07
noteventimeyes10:07
krenxk10:07
noteventimeor nvidia-glx-legacy if you gave pre GF3 card10:07
krenxno, i have a gf4 ti420010:08
noteventimeok10:08
krenxare Nvidia-settings tool installed in K- menu ?10:08
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noteventimekrenx, I don't know. Why do you need it?10:10
krenxtoo change hz for different resulotions, vsync off for some games etc10:12
noteventimeok10:12
noteventimeYou can always create a link otherwise10:12
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nonamecrimsun : did u see the url  ?10:14
krenxIf i knew where the program is located10:15
krenx:P10:15
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Nomad411Hi.. I'm thinking of trying Suse for a little while, does anyone have any warnings or recommendations as to what I'll miss?10:15
noteventimeOne CD :D10:16
noteventimeAnd speed10:16
crimsunnoname: no, I'm in a meeting atm. url?10:16
Nomad411speed, really?10:16
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krenxI need to restart the computer too get OpenGL too work after installing nvidia drivers ?10:17
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noteventimekrenx, only XServer10:21
noteventimectrl + alt + backspace10:21
krenxand then?10:21
krenx:)10:21
florin-Nomad411: u'll realy miss speed10:21
noteventimeThat restarts the XServer :D10:21
noteventimenothing more10:21
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florin-suse is beutifull to look but realy slow10:22
noteventimeNomad411, I havn't tried suse for ages but I've heard it's a lot slower10:22
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grenthx10:22
gren:)10:22
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noteventime:) works?10:22
Nomad411I must have some buggy settings then, the one thing that irritates me with Kubuntu i sthat my machien crawls way too often.. Maybe I'll try a brand new install10:23
krenxdunno yet10:23
noteventimekrenx, glxinfo | grep direct rendering10:23
krenxk10:24
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noteventimekrenx, glxinfo | grep direct\ rendering10:26
noteventimesorry :) forgot the \10:26
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krenxk10:28
krenxbrb10:28
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krenxXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".10:29
krenxXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".10:29
krenxXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".10:29
krenxError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual10:29
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krenxnoteventime: doesnt seem to work10:30
noteventimehmm :/10:31
krenxwhat lib do i need10:31
noteventimeDid you edit the xorg.conf?10:31
krenxno10:31
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krenxnoteventime: i dont even know what i shall edit, im in xorg.conf now10:35
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noteventimekrenx, Ok :D10:36
noteventimego down till you find something like driver "nv"10:36
krenxk10:36
krenxthere.10:36
noteventimechange it to driver "nvidia"10:36
krenxdone10:37
noteventimesave and restart the xserver10:37
noteventimeand hope for the best10:37
noteventimeif you land in the console10:37
noteventimejust type irc10:37
noteventimeand /connect irc.freenode.net10:37
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noteventime!xgl10:40
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/10:40
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krenxnoteventime: nah, it doesnt work10:41
noteventimestill the same error?10:42
krenxtell me again what i should type10:42
krenxin the terminal10:42
krenx=)10:42
noteventimeto do what? ^^10:42
krenxcheck opengl10:42
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noteventimeahh10:42
noteventimekrenx, glxinfo | grep direct\ rendering10:42
slow-motionre10:43
krenxdirect rendering: Yes10:43
krenx:P10:43
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noteventimenice :)10:44
krenxthanks10:44
noteventimenp10:44
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krenxlol10:45
tmdx120hello again.10:45
jpatrickhey, why don't I get cookies?10:45
tmdx120Does anyone know how to edit a config file in kate?10:45
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noteventimes10:45
jpatrickheh10:46
noteventimetdmx120, kdesu kate FILE10:46
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tmdx120thankyou10:46
noteventimenp10:46
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noteventimeYay, cookie rain10:47
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ryanakcahmmm.... cookies10:48
krenxdamn, the game is running in slowmotion10:48
krenxquake210:49
noteventime:(10:49
noteventimeAre you using xgl?10:49
krenxxgl ?10:49
krenx:D10:49
noteventimeIf you dont know you arent using it10:49
krenxok10:50
krenxbut what is it ?10:50
noteventimeOpenGL accelerated Xserver10:50
krenxa10:50
noteventimeLots od eyecandy10:50
noteventime!xgl10:50
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/10:50
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krenxok10:51
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krenxanyone, how do i use the nvidia-settings tool?10:53
noteventime:D10:53
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noteventimeTake a look at the videos10:53
krenxwhat videos10:53
krenx:P10:53
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krenx!nvidia10:54
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736810:54
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noteventimekenx, http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/10:58
krenxforgot too install  linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-generic11:00
krenxbrb11:01
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krenx!nvidia11:02
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736811:02
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krenxnoteventime: gimme that url again please11:03
krenx:P11:03
noteventimeok11:03
noteventimehttp://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/11:03
noteventime:D11:03
krenxand what do i need that for ?11:04
steveklDoes anyone know how to turn on the autocorrect feature in oppenoffice11:05
steveklLike when you mispell a word, it underlines it?11:05
steveklIt's apparently not working for me11:05
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justanotheruseroeps11:06
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noteventimestevekl, you need to install a language pacl11:08
noteventimepack*11:08
noteventimekrenx, You don't need it, it's just cool :D11:08
steveklnoteventime: openoffice.org-l10n-en-us is installed...do I need something else?11:08
noteventimeI think so11:08
noteventimeI'm not sure I'm using kword11:09
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steveklhm, I wonder if I should try kword11:09
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noteventimestevekl, see that you get 1.511:11
noteventimewww.kubuntu.org <- instructions here11:11
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momo3http://israel.275mb.com/index3.php11:12
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steveklSo what IS everyone's favorite MSword clone?11:18
steveklI'm writing a school paper on linux for the first time11:19
HymnToLifestevekl> nano11:19
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SeantaterI muxh prefer Open Office 211:20
Seantaters/muxh/much11:20
SeantaterThere is Koffice too11:20
steveklnano can't replace MS word sorry11:21
SeantaterOO2 can, can it not?11:21
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HymnToLifestevekl> nano owns you :p11:22
saaidamy god whole day just installing linux :)11:22
HymnToLifewell, I'm using word processors like twice a year, so OOo does the trick for me11:22
saaidafinally i got to my sound driver problem but another thing came up11:23
saaidathe sound output is too low11:23
vgesaaida: what kmix says about your imput lvls?11:24
vge*output ^^11:25
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krenxnoteventime: one last time, gimme that opengl command :D11:32
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noteventimekrenx, glxinfo | grep direct\ rendering11:33
noteventime:D11:33
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krille!ntfs11:34
ubotuntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:34
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Seantaterkrille: anything you need concerning NTFS?11:36
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krenxHi Seantater. do you by any chance know why opengl games runs in slowmotion ?11:37
Seantaterkrenx: do you have a sufficient video card?11:37
Seantaterkrenx: slow video cards, or lacking a video card might cause that11:37
Seantaterkrenx: along with it becoming a "slideshow"..11:38
krenxyea, i have a geforce4 ti420011:38
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HymnToLifekrenx> with drivers installed ?11:39
krenxYes.11:39
krenxotherwise i woudltnt be able to run opengl :P11:39
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saaidamy God. my mp3 play a little bit very very Fast "u know those funny fast talking"11:43
kunjanhow do i recover a lost password for /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>11:44
kunjan?11:44
krenx!nvidia11:46
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736811:46
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HymnToLifekunjan> /msg nickserv help :)11:46
kunjanthanks HymnToLife11:46
kunjanHymnToLife: there is no option to recover or reset the pass11:47
HymnToLifeae you sure ?11:49
kunjanyup11:49
kunjani did /msg nickserv help11:49
HymnToLifeoh yeah indeed11:49
HymnToLifeI guess you'll have to register another one11:50
kunjansucks11:50
kunjanoh well11:50
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blindboy1runthi all11:50
Seantaterhello11:50
noteventime'ello11:50
noteventime!ntfs11:50
ubotuntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:50
blindboy1runti'm having a little problem installing an icon theme11:50
kunjan_thanks HymnToLife11:50
blindboy1runtI have downloaded one - but it doesn't seem to be understood by the icon installer11:51
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cicciohi there11:55
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saaidadoes anyone knows how i can reset KMIX setting ?11:58
blindboy1runtnever mind - worked it out - I was being dumb11:58
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Riddell** kubuntu meeting in 1 minute in #ubuntu-meeting12:00
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