[12:03] <jeff_> lol
[12:03] <jeff_> maybe switch to the normal menu?
[12:03] <jeff_> i hate that too, its rediculous
[12:04] <NoUse> jeff_ yeah I've started just sshing in, running x11vnc and using that
[12:05] <jeff_> lol uhh
[12:05] <jeff_> what?
[12:05] <NoUse> x11vnc is an app that bridges VNC to your current X session
[12:06] <jeff_> whats VNC?
[12:07] <sheldonc> its like Remote Desktop
[12:07] <NoUse> its what krfb uses
[12:12] <jeff_> ok
[12:21] <visik7> vnc sucks use freenx
[01:07] <ironman> woow
[01:07] <ironman> i think the kubuntu installation ruined my second hdd :O
[01:08] <ironman> anyone active?
[01:14] <WhyM> Got the same pb yesterday...
[01:15] <WhyM> The graphic install on 6.06 beta live crashed and I could'nt access my hdd anymore  :-D
[01:15] <WhyM>  :-@
[01:19] <icer> damn
[01:23] <bimberi> ironman, WhyM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta/PartitionTableCorruption (which is linked from http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/)
[01:25] <WhyM> Thanks bimberi, it gave me a great oportunity to drop XP ;-)
[01:25] <WhyM> So I just didn't fix the issue!
[01:26] <icer> :D
[01:26] <bimberi> WhyM: lol
[01:27] <WhyM> That's crazy... I even like kubuntu when it crashes my hdd...
[01:29] <icer> crazy man.. btw dapper is beta....
[01:30] <tmdx120> hello room!
[01:30] <tmdx120> howdy beef!
[01:31] <icer> howdy chicken
[01:35] <tmdx120> I have a question about scroll wheel mouses.
[01:36] <icer> ok
[01:39] <tmdx120> Hi Icer. I have a three button mouse with a scroll wheel. THe scroll wheel wont scroll. What can I do?
[01:39] <tmdx120> actually it has 4 buttons (one on the thumb)
[01:40] <WhyM> How does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf look like (under the section about your mouse) ?
[01:42] <tmdx120> Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
[01:43] <tmdx120> Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
[01:43] <icer> Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[01:43] <icer> ?
[01:43] <tmdx120> nothing under that.
[01:44] <icer> http://pastebin.com/684061
[01:45] <icer> my conf
[01:45] <ironman> hmm
[01:45] <ironman> anyone?
[01:46] <WhyM> Just your wheel that won't work ?
[01:46] <ironman> Shouldn't kubuntu be able to read NTFS from the beginning?
[01:46] <tmdx120> everything the same except  "Device" "/dev/psaux"  Option         "Buttons" "5" and  Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[01:46] <tmdx120> why-- yes just the scroll wheel wont work.
[01:47] <ironman> tmdx120, WhyM ? :(
[01:47] <tmdx120> if you count the wheel and thumb it actually has 5 buttons.
[01:47] <tmdx120> Lol?
[01:47] <tmdx120> ?
[01:48] <ironman> Bah
[01:48] <tmdx120> so should I add ZaxisMapping 4 5?
[01:49] <tmdx120> ??
[01:49] <icer> it's up to you
[01:50] <tmdx120> I will give it a shot. Thanks
[01:50] <WhyM> I don't understand... you already have it in your xorg.conf no?
[01:51] <WhyM> nop sorry
[01:51] <WhyM> Yes you should try that
[01:56] <WhyM> Talking about mice... why do I have 3 "InputDevice" sections about some Wacom stuff I don't have...
[01:56] <ironman> When I installed kubunto.. I just choosed to edit the partition-table for hda... Why isn't there anything in hdb then!?
[02:02] <__mikem> Hey, when I go to display options, I can't get screen resolutions higher than 1024x768 but I am capable of runing at 1280x1024 in gnome, is there a config file I could modify to fix this problem, if so, just tell me where it is
[02:03] <WhyM> __mikem : /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:04] <__mikem> ok, one more thing, why is it that I can run at high resolutions in gnome and not in kde, knowing this will help when modifying the file
[02:05] <WhyM> Do you have 1280x1024 in your "Screen" section?
[02:05] <__mikem> hold on
[02:06] <__mikem> nope
[02:07] <__mikem> What depth does it run at by default
[02:07] <__mikem> nvm
[02:07] <__mikem> defaultdepth duh
[02:07] <WhyM> Ok so just add it ("1280x1024") for each mode.
[02:08] <WhyM> 24 I think
[02:08] <__mikem> just add , "1280x1024" to the end the modes line
[02:08] <__mikem> right?
[02:09] <WhyM> yep, then restart x and set your screen resolution in kde
[02:09] <WhyM> That should work
[02:09] <__mikem> ok, by the way, right now I am in gnome, will that make a difference
[02:10] <WhyM> It just tells xorg your screen is able to use 1280x1024
[02:10] <__mikem> yes, sorry, I am still a bit new to linux
[02:10] <WhyM> So am I ;-)
[02:11] <__mikem> your ahead of me lol
[02:11] <__mikem> brb
[02:18] <JohnFlux> hmm
[02:22] <Chris_Tucker> is there a command line way to list ALL debian packages that are installed?
[02:23] <crimsun> dpkg -l
[02:23] <Chris_Tucker> eek
[02:23] <Chris_Tucker> ok is there an option for that that makes it just the package name?
[02:24] <crimsun> dpkg -l |awk '{ print $2 }'
[02:24] <Chris_Tucker> wait... crimsun ... ive seen that before... have you ever been to #linuxhelp on undernet?
[02:24] <Chris_Tucker> the name is what ive seen
[02:25] <crimsun> I tend to avoid undernet like the plague these days
[02:25] <Chris_Tucker> have you ever been though?
[02:25] <crimsun> about six years ago, yes
[02:25] <Chris_Tucker> ok not the same crimsun then.. i was assisted by a crimsun there about a year ago
[02:28] <Chris_Tucker> crimsun, since you got that far, think theres a way to make it jumble all those lines into just package names seperated by spaces not lines? :P im not good at scripting yet
[02:29] <Chris_Tucker> i think it'll probably use sed or something
[02:30] <crimsun> perl or ruby would be faster
[02:31] <dutch> hi crimsun  :)
[02:31] <JohnFlux> Hi all
[02:31] <JohnFlux> I need /usr/include/GL/gl.h to compile a program
[02:31] <JohnFlux> ubotu the bot says it's in libgl1-mesa-dev    but I have that installed
[02:31] <Chris_Tucker> crimsun, got an example? :P
[02:31] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, JohnFlux
[02:31] <crimsun> hi dutch
[02:31] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: Google dose
[02:31] <crimsun> does^
[02:32] <crimsun> JohnFlux: no, libgl1-mesa-dev
[02:32] <robotgeek> JohnFlux: install apt-file and search with it :)
[02:32] <crimsun> are you _sure_ you have it?
[02:32] <Chris_Tucker> what would i enter my search as ..? "how to convert new lines to spaces with perl"?
[02:32] <JohnFlux> crimsun: libgl1-mesa-dev is already the newest version.
[02:32] <crimsun> good, now install mesa-common-dev
[02:32] <JohnFlux> crimsun: do I do this even if I have the nvidia drivers?
[02:33] <JohnFlux> crimsun: don't they have their own gl or something confusing?
[02:33] <crimsun> that's their business, and yes, they do
[02:33] <JohnFlux> mesa-common-dev is already the newest version.
[02:33] <crimsun> ls -l /usr/include/GL/gl.h
[02:33] <JohnFlux> this is 64bit debian
[02:33] <JohnFlux> uh
[02:33] <JohnFlux> kubuntu sorry
[02:33] <JohnFlux> ls: /usr/include/GL/gl.h: No such file or directory
[02:33] <JohnFlux> I have the glu.h  etc tehre
[02:33] <JohnFlux> there
[02:34] <crimsun> sudo apt-get --reinstall install mesa-common-dev
[02:34] <crimsun> did you install the Nvidia drivers from their Web site, or are you using Ubuntu's packaging?
[02:34] <JohnFlux> that worked
[02:34] <JohnFlux> crimsun: they ubuntu ones in restricted
[02:34] <JohnFlux> s/they/the/
[02:34] <crimsun> hmph.
[02:45] <WhyM> How can I make Gnome apps look 'goodunder kde?
[02:52] <john_G> WhyM: settings>appearanxws&themes>gtk styles&fonts ... choose to use your kde themes and fonts
[02:52] <john_G> *appearances
[02:53] <WhyM> Thanks, but that's already the case... :-(
[03:11] <DarkShock> anybody know how to make Konqueror in Kubuntu open tar.gz, tar.bz2, .zip using their kioslave and not Ark ?
[03:15] <apokryphos> DarkShock: check the file associations
[03:15] <DarkShock> apokryphos: I checked that
[03:16] <DarkShock> apokryphos: I selected to use the embeded viewer, but it doesn't work, and removing Ark from the list doesn't work either
[03:16] <DarkShock> I checked and both tar:/ and zip:/ ioslaves are present and functional
[03:17] <DarkShock> only the file association doesn't work
[03:40] <swedish> question: you know when you mouse-over a document in KDE, it shows the little preview of the document, is there a way to enlarge that?
[03:40] <DarkShock> swedish: hmmm I don't think so
[03:41] <swedish> but u do know what im talking about right
[03:41] <DarkShock> the preview in the tooltip right ?
[03:42] <swedish> i wonder what to google  "enlarge kda file preview"
[03:42] <swedish> like when you just mouse over, like if its a txt file it shows a preview of whats in it
[03:42] <swedish> and it also has like file size, last modified, and what not
[03:42] <DarkShock> yup, that's the tooltip I'm refering to
[03:42] <swedish> ok
[04:07] <\etc\bin> hi there all
[04:55] <prospero2005> who here knows what the default kubuntu theme is?
[04:55] <prospero2005> Or, can anyone recommend a good theme
[04:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> prospero2005: Which version of Kubuntu?
[04:55] <prospero2005> 3.5
[04:55] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: polyester is quite nice
[04:56] <prospero2005> I tried to install lipstick but it said it couldn't find the paths for the X libraries I think
[04:56] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: apt-cache search kwin list teh ones already packaged for kubuntu
[04:56] <Hobbsee> !xlibs
[04:56] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee
[04:56] <Hobbsee> !xincludes
[04:56] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[04:56] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: ^
[04:59] <prospero2005> I'm trying it now. How do you know that?
[04:59] <prospero2005> that solved it.
[05:00] <prospero2005> Now, qt headers and libraries not found
[05:00] <prospero2005> qt3-dev-tolls?
[05:00] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: kde-devel is the easiest package to install after that
[05:01] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: grab kdelibs4-dev
[05:01] <prospero2005> What do you do for a living there hobbes?
[05:02] <prospero2005> NOw that I've got dapper up, I'm seriously considering taking a stab at XGL
[05:02] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: who, me?
[05:02] <prospero2005> Got dual monitors though on separate cards
[05:02] <prospero2005> ya, you
[05:03] <Hobbsee> oh. if you use tab completion, you dont generally get teh nick wrong
[05:03] <Hobbsee> i'm at uni, and also work as a check out chick.
[05:03] <prospero2005> uni?
[05:03] <Hobbsee> university
[05:03] <prospero2005> You sound like a system admin
[05:03] <prospero2005> which university?
[05:04] <Hobbsee> one in sydney
[05:04] <Hobbsee> the particular package you wan t is libqt3-mt-dev
[05:04] <prospero2005> Australia. I'll probably never make it down under. Probably nice though
[05:06] <prospero2005> Do you know where I go to change themes in 3.5?
[05:07] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: system settings, apperance
[05:07] <Hobbsee> *appearance
[05:07] <prospero2005> nvm got it. styles
[05:07] <Hobbsee> you can use colours from one style, and the style from anotehr, you know.  kinda neat :D
[05:10] <prospero2005> with the default kde theme the icons were nice and big
[05:11] <prospero2005> SInce I've switched themes, they all got a lot smaller. I'd like to get the default back.... hmm
[05:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> prospero2005: IIRC it's Settings > Appearence > Desktop > Icons
[05:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh well, I'm wrong. Try Settings > Appearence > Icons. ;)
[05:12] <sig-11> breezy/dapper seem to be missing opengl man pages which were in warty/hoary. Things like glxinfo and glViewport. Anyone know why?
[05:36] <gyrate> anyone know where flashplayer-mozilla went?
[05:37] <crimsun> away.
[05:38] <gyrate> so theres only the gpl version now?
[05:38] <crimsun> I asked for its removal from the archive about two months ago, since it illegally distributes in binary form the plugin from our repo.
[05:38] <crimsun> macromedia's eula specifically forbids that.
[05:38] <crimsun> no, there's flashplugin-nonfree
[05:39] <crimsun> which has been and is the preferred package for using macromedia's binary-only Flash plugin
[05:39] <crimsun> make sure you update first if you're running Dapper
[05:39] <gyrate> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[05:39] <crimsun> yes
[05:40] <gyrate> it doesnt seem to exist for me
[05:40] <crimsun> do you have multiverse enabled?
[05:40] <gyrate> yup
[05:40] <gyrate> i think so
[05:40] <crimsun> then you probably don't :)
[05:40] <gyrate> .me checks
[05:41] <crimsun> be sure you aren't mistaking breezy-backports/breezy-updates for breezy
[05:41] <gyrate> i have universe
[05:41] <crimsun> it's not in universe, it's in multiverse
[05:41] <crimsun> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[05:41] <gyrate> i dont see multiverse in the default sources list
[05:41] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[05:41] <crimsun> are you using breezy or dapper?
[05:42] <gyrate> hmm. let me check
[05:42] <crimsun> lsb_release -r
[05:42] <gyrate> this is my first install
[05:42] <gyrate> 5.10
[05:42] <crimsun> breezy
[05:42] <crimsun> !repos
[05:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:43] <gyrate> ok, thanks
[05:45] <gyrate> ok, i see
[05:45] <gyrate> multiverse isnt listed in the default sources.list
[05:45] <gyrate> and this is my first debain based distro, so i barely know what im doing ;)
[05:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> What other distros have you used?
[05:47] <gyrate> gentoo, redhat, suse
[05:47] <jobezone> you can also mess with the sources.list file graphically. In system->Administration there's an option I think (software sources?)
[05:47] <gyrate> yeah, i have this adept tool
[05:47] <gyrate> looks liek a kde app
[05:49] <jobezone> nevermind, this is #kubuntu! :D
[05:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, you can mess with it graphically in Kubuntu too. ;)
[05:50] <Hobbsee> jobezone: you can open it in kate, and tehn just copy and paste as you like...that's fairly graphical...
[05:51] <gyrate> im using vi
[05:51] <jobezone> sure
[05:51] <jobezone> but my pointer was specific to gnome.
[05:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yep. :)
[05:52] <jobezone> gyrate: not Emacs?
[05:53] <gyrate> ive been using linux for abotu 7 years now, and i have never even typed emacs on a command line ;)
[05:53] <Hobbsee> gyrate: neither
[05:53] <gyrate> having said that, i think vi sucks too
[05:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:53] <gyrate> but its everywhere, so i deal with it
[05:54] <gyrate> i know just enough to get by
[05:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Me too. I can type, save, and quit once I get into it. :P
[05:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> What else to I need to know? :)
[05:54] <jobezone> :))
[05:54] <gyrate> sometimes i wish i knew copy/paste
[05:55] <gyrate> but im always too lazy to look it up
[05:55] <Hobbsee> gyrate: ctrl+c and ctrl+v?
[05:55] <Hobbsee> sometimes it's shift+insert for kde apps
[05:55] <gyrate> that doesnt work in vi
[05:55] <Hobbsee> pity
[05:55] <gyrate> vu has 'yank' and something else
[05:56] <gyrate> err, vi
[05:56] <gyrate> whatever the opposite of yank is i guess
[05:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> push?
[05:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> ;)
[05:57] <gyrate> http://www.tech-recipes.com/unix_tips219.html
[05:57] <gyrate> im feeling less lazy today
[06:00] <gyrate> why is it so quiet in here?
[06:01] <thunderbolt> Well, I'm doing proofs.
[06:01] <gyrate> its scary for a channel with this many people to be so quiet
[06:02] <regeya> I was watching a starwars fanflick.
[06:02] <regeya> seriously, we're all using a distribution that works, so...maybe there's no need to talk about it. *wink*
[06:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:02] <gyrate> haha, good point
[06:02] <gyrate> well, it working for me so far
[06:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's worked for me...once I changed a few things... ;)
[06:03] <gyrate> i had the same gentoo install for over 2 years, but i got sick of fixing things
[06:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> I've had this install since flight 5 came out, and I've almost stopped adding programs and changing how it looks. :P
[06:05] <gyrate> i really hate this 'system settings' thing though
[06:05] <gyrate> wheres the kde control center?
[06:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> kcontrol
[06:05] <gyrate> ah, thanks
[06:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's the 2nd thing I do after installing. :)
[06:06] <gyrate> much better
[06:08] <gyrate> this is actually faster than my gentoo install
[06:08] <gyrate> i wonder why
[06:09] <Hobbsee> gyrate: well, it finished installing *hours* before your gentoo isntall would have, so you're already way in front :P
[06:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> don't you mean "days"? ;)
[06:09] <gyrate> yeah yeah
[06:10] <Hobbsee> oh yes
[06:10] <Search4Lancer> I love how my battery is losing charge
[06:10] <Search4Lancer> yet my laptop is plugged in
[06:11] <Tuxutug> bonsoir
[06:11] <Hobbsee> Search4Lancer: does it show you that in klaptop or kpowersave?
[06:12] <gyrate> hmm, i cant find ntpd
[06:12] <gyrate> i found ntp, but it doesnt install a daemon
[06:13] <gyrate> oh, i found it
[06:13] <gyrate> ntp-simple
[06:15] <gyrate> ok, im off to bed
[06:15] <gyrate> seeya
[06:16] <Search4Lancer> Hobbsee - klaptop
[06:16] <Hobbsee> Search4Lancer: breezy or dapper?
[06:17] <Search4Lancer> dapper
[06:19] <Hobbsee> Search4Lancer: try kpowersave :P
[06:19] <Hobbsee> it's *stacks* better than klaptop
[06:25] <Search4Lancer> Hobbsee - it shows the same charge
[06:26] <Hobbsee> Search4Lancer: true...but it's less buggy, and has nice suspend to disk and suspend to ram capabilities
[06:26] <Search4Lancer> I don't trust suspension one bit.... nor do I really need to suspend, as I am always plugged in
[06:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> And they have an x86_64 RPM which I can make into an amd64 deb. :)
[06:39] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[07:15] <prower> Hello everyone :> A quick question...does the vanilla i386 kernel have pre-emption enabled?
[07:17] <crimsun> in dapper, you mean?
[07:17] <prower> Oh, no...breezy, I just installed it
[07:18] <crimsun> breezy doesn't have preempt enabled at all by default for any kernels
[07:18] <crimsun> you can confirm with ``uname -a''
[07:18] <prower> Oh, I see :/ That's too bad, I need to find a decent guide on building a custom kernel
[07:19] <crimsun> desktop kernels in dapper have it enabled by default; server kernels have it disabled
[07:20] <prower> Hmm...so if I copy the config that was used to compile the vanilla kernel over and edit it just to enable pre-emption, would installing that work?
[08:16] <ports-> whats a good p2p app for kubuntu
[08:19] <noiesmo> ports-, you could use frostwire not a ubuntu package just download and away you go does need java
[08:20] <ports-> noiesmo:  any others?
[08:21] <noiesmo> ports-, not sure the only other thing i use is ktorrent or bittornado but they need a .torrent file to work
[08:21] <ports-> right
[08:21] <_matt> hi
[08:22] <_matt> anyone like halo2
[08:22] <noiesmo> _matt, does it run on linux
[08:22] <_matt> wine
[08:22] <noiesmo> _matt, if not no
[08:23] <_matt> oh so you are interested because it does run on linux.
[08:24] <_matt> anyone else annoyed that firefox 1.5 doesn't come with ubuntu?
[08:24] <noiesmo> _matt, no not really thought it might have been ported to linux and that be ok but otherwise its just a M$ game
[08:26] <Hobbsee> _matt: it does
[08:26] <Hobbsee> !+firefox1.5
[08:26] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:26] <Hobbsee> and it's in the dapper repos
[08:26] <_matt> is dapper out yet?
[08:27] <crimsun> not until 1 june
[08:27] <_matt> but you can use the repositries already?
[08:28] <Hobbsee> yes
[08:28] <Hobbsee> have been able to since a couple of weeks after breezy was released
[08:30] <_matt> well I've only been using linux for about two months at home, but really like ubuntu, I started with gnome but then decided I liked KDE a lot more
[08:31] <Hobbsee> yay!
[08:31] <_matt> I gave up on windows after having to put up with that dam product activation?
[08:31] <_matt> oh and spyware infestations every month
[08:32] <Hobbsee> urgh yeah
[08:32] <Hobbsee> they're always fun
[08:32] <_matt> to many reinstallations of windows
[08:33] <ports-> /dns ports-
[08:34] <_matt> does kde have a separate file manager or just konqueror?
[08:35] <Hobbsee> _matt: konqueror, yes
[08:37] <_matt> anyone here know much about ssh tunnels
[08:38] <robotgeek> _matt: you can also install krusader (a dedicated file manager)
[08:39] <_matt> really, I think that would be better for me as I prefer firefox as a web browser.
[08:39] <_matt> i shall install it now
[08:49] <GMullen> can anyone help with a start up problem?
[08:51] <robotgeek> GMullen: just ask away :)
[08:52] <GMullen> ok
[08:52] <GMullen> i installed from the live DVD
[08:52] <GMullen> and tried to boot
[08:52] <GMullen> and xserver hung ad a gray screen
[08:53] <GMullen> then i booted into recovery
[08:53] <GMullen> apt-get upgrade
[08:53] <GMullen> and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:53] <GMullen> and set it to all the recomemed
[08:54] <GMullen> still the same problem if i try to boot normealy
[08:54] <robotgeek> GMullen: look at /var/log/xorg.log (look for lines starting with (EE) )
[08:56] <noiesmo> GMullen, did you try vesa for display drivers and not nv or ati pending which card you have
[08:56] <GMullen> no i didn't even think of that
[08:57] <noiesmo> GMullen, vesa should alsways work fingers crossed then you could update repos etc and add restricted modules to suite your card
[08:57] <robotgeek> vesa always works :P
[08:57] <noiesmo> GMullen, even update kernel etc
[08:58] <GMullen> ok i'm still a relitive noob
[08:58] <GMullen> i have no idea what you said
[08:58] <GMullen> i know how to set it to vesa
[08:58] <noiesmo> at least you try
[08:58] <GMullen> but then after that
[08:58] <GMullen> ok
[08:58] <noiesmo> GMullen, go defaults exept vesa then youll have gui
[08:58] <GMullen> ok i'll try that
[08:59] <GMullen> hopefuly i'll be back with konversation
[08:59] <noiesmo> GMullen, when you havegrey screen do you have mouse cursor
[08:59] <GMullen> thx noiesmo
[08:59] <GMullen> yes
[08:59] <GMullen> and it moves
[08:59] <noiesmo> np :)
[08:59] <GMullen> but i cant ctrl alt f*
[08:59] <noiesmo> cool then it should just be the drivers for video card
[08:59] <GMullen> kk
[08:59] <GMullen> brb
[09:01] <noiesmo> robotgeek, hopefully his keyboard works he did say before he left he couldnt  ctrl alt f*
[09:02] <robotgeek> noiesmo: hmm, that's always messy (i've had hell once with sun keyboards on debian)
[09:02] <noiesmo> heh
[09:04] <GMullen> thx noiesmo
[09:04] <GMullen> i'm in
[09:04] <noiesmo> coool
[09:04] <GMullen> now what do i need to do next
[09:05] <noiesmo> are you on kde
[09:05] <GMullen> yes
[09:06] <GMullen> my friend is trying to get me onto gnome
[09:06] <noiesmo> go K system then open adept from here you can install extra packaages etc
[09:06] <noiesmo> kde rocks
[09:06] <GMullen> ok adept is open
[09:07] <robotgeek> if he was using Dapper, he could have use "Add/Remove programs" also :)
[09:07] <GMullen> this screen resolution is so damn small
[09:07] <robotgeek> !fixres
[09:07] <ubotu> fixres is, like, Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:07] <noiesmo> brb
[09:09] <GMullen> thx
[09:09] <GMullen> can i use this even thow i'm in kubuntu with KDM not GMD
[09:09] <GMullen> GDM*
[09:16] <_matt> is it possible to share a printer connected to a windows machine with a unbuntu workstation?
[09:17] <atiro> _matt: yes, you need samba
[09:19] <_matt> I believe samba is part of the default ubuntu install
[09:19] <atiro> yes, it should be...
[09:19] <_matt> I can access folders on the windows machine
[09:20] <atiro> I'd google for a good howto, something like "samba printer"
[09:20] <_matt> ok
[09:22] <robotgeek> look on the wiki
[09:23] <Phazeman> hey there Hobbsee
[09:23] <Phazeman> sorry was distracted
[09:23] <Hobbsee> Phazeman: what version of kde does mandriva have?  i'm curious
[09:23] <Phazeman> as a matter of fact, the last time i used mandriva was a year ago.... i use the Xbuntu way now
[09:24] <Hobbsee> oh ok...
[09:24] <Phazeman> :)
[09:24] <Phazeman> ahhh
[09:24] <Phazeman> it was from the old good days of OP'ing there
[09:24] <Hobbsee> ah yes
[09:25] <Phazeman> after they added the next line to the topic: "No support for other OSes" i kinda quit completely
[09:25] <Phazeman> not that i was active lately
[09:25] <Phazeman> i mean, they support mandriva, and ONLY mandriva
[09:25] <Phazeman> i can't understand that
[09:26] <robotgeek> Phazeman: in #mandriva?
[09:26] <Phazeman> robotgeek: yes
[09:26] <Phazeman> Support for Mandriva only, not other distro's or OS's
[09:26] <Phazeman> this is the exact line
[09:27] <robotgeek> Phazeman: i wouldn't know a thing if you asked me about mandriva, to be honest. it might seem pretty offtopic to ask a #mandriva question in #kubuntu :P, unless it was generic enough
[09:27] <Phazeman> most of the times, people ask generic questions
[09:27] <Hobbsee> heh
[09:28] <Phazeman> and when someone does, and he's not using mandriva - he won't get help (usually()
[09:37] <kubuntutaotao> today upgraded,my amarok's xine engine didn't init.
[09:38] <kubuntutaotao> used source: deb ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[09:40] <GMullen> where can i apt-get 855resolution
[09:40] <Pyre> where can i apt-get 855resolution
[09:40] <GMullen> the answer is not a konsole
[09:45] <_matt> has anyone managed to get starcraft working through wine?
[09:46] <GMullen> !fixres
[09:47] <ubotu> fixres is, like, totally, Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:48] <_matt> what is !fixres?
[10:11] <yanis> hhi
[10:11] <yanis> I think there is a problem with kubuntu's wiki
[10:19] <mrmist> Hi all :)
[10:20] <mrmist> I've got a ATI GPU... what driver should I use ?
[10:20] <mrmist> I'm using one now, but KDE seems slow
[10:26] <_matt> anyone else prefer firefox to konqueror
[10:26] <_matt> but i think konqueror is good as a file manager
[10:26] <Hobbsee> _matt: yep
[10:27] <Hobbsee> true
[10:27] <_matt> you know if you get the kde theme for firefox it integrates well into kde
[10:27] <buz> anyone using dapper of today? can you print?
[10:29] <_matt> not using it yet
[10:31] <_matt> the gtk looking firefox just looks ugly in kde
[10:32] <buz> _matt: get the crystal fox theme
[10:32] <buz> that makes it look bearable
[10:35] <_matt> yeah I've got the crystal theme its good
[10:54] <fjellrev1> anyone in here with any experience with NVidia tv-out? 1 out for 40 times I actually am able to run the program,and then there is the task of getting it to work,most of the time my pc crashes after I try and get a picture on my tv
[11:04] <_matt> what "program" are you referring to?
[11:04] <Solan> hey:) would you recommend an update from Breezy to Dapper? is Dapper stable?
[11:04] <_matt> are you using the s-video out?
[11:07] <_matt> whats the difference between breezy and dapper anyway?
[11:10] <Solan> I don't have clue man;) that's kinda why I'm askin':)
[11:12] <_matt> yeah well im asking too but noones answering
[11:12] <Solan> yeah.. I know..
[11:13] <Solan> maby we should take the hint and wait with Dapper until it's completely stable:)
[11:20] <Stormchaser> What's the APT repository for kubuntu (drapper beta)? I can't seem to find it in the wiki :/
[11:20] <_matt> dapper maybe
[11:20] <Stormchaser> er... whoops... Yes, dapper :)
[11:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> same as ubuntu
[11:25] <_matt> Now windows XP, thats a good operating system
[11:26] <_matt> !!joke!! -- just trying to stir up some coversation
[11:26] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _matt
[11:36] <Stormchaser> hum... This won't work :/ deb http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ dapper
[11:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> Stormchaser, whats up?
[11:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh
[11:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> deb http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper $parts
[11:41] <Stormchaser> what is $parts?
[11:41] <Stormchaser> oh, I get it :)
[11:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[11:42] <Stormchaser> dapper kubuntu, right?
[11:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes. kubuntu uses the same package repositories as ubuntu
[11:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> kubuntu is just another set of packages :)
[11:43] <Stormchaser> kewl :)
[11:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi apokryphos
[11:43] <apokryphos> aloha
[11:44] <nico8481> hi
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi nico8481
[11:46] <Stormchaser> Argh!
[11:47] <Stormchaser> Note to self: Never trust update managers :/
[11:49] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:49] <Hobbsee> Stormchaser: why, what's it doing?
[11:53] <Stormchaser> Hobbsee: Well... It just overrrode the sources.list without asking, if I wanted to upgrade KDE as well...
[11:53] <Hobbsee> oh okay
[11:56] <Stormchaser> Hobbsee: can you paste the kubuntu line from sources.list?
[11:56] <Hobbsee> !repos
[11:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:57] <Stormchaser> THATNK YOU! *hugs* :)
[12:03] <Stormchaser> Well... Actually... All I wanted is this: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main :)
[12:08] <KAOS_JNR> hi was wondering if someone can help i am a real linux noob and want to install kubuntu i have downloaded the distro and can get it to boot but when i select install i get an error would someone have the time to help??
[12:14] <yanis> what error?
[12:35] <KAOS_JNR> yanis thanks for listening i am just cheaking the disk to see if there are any issues
[12:48] <fjellrev1> whats recomended to use as a ftp server program? Im no guru so want something simple with not too much configuration :)
[12:49] <ubijtsa2> fjellrev1: does it have to be ftp?
[12:54] <fjellrev1> ubijtsa : what other options do I have? want to share with my windows friends
[12:54] <ibrahim> hi all
[12:54] <topquarck> salam
[12:55] <ubijtsa2> fjellrev1: over the internet, or on a LAN ?
[12:56] <fjellrev1> ubijtsa2: internet
[12:57] <ubijtsa2> fjellrev1: there is ftp, probably the easiest thing to set up (am sure there is a package for anon ftp)
[12:57] <ubijtsa2> fjellrev1: you could use Samba with authentication
[12:58] <ubijtsa2> fjellrev1: if you don't need them to upload, just download, you can use a simple webserver
[12:59] <ubijtsa2> fjellrev1: if you feel adventurous and in a learning mood, webserver with WebDAV gives you both upload and download, and recent windows can handle DAV, so should work
[01:00] <ubijtsa2> just remember that opening services up onto the net means security risks.
[01:03] <fjellrev1> I dont feel that adventuarous right now,that energy is going to nvidia tvout,just want to set up quick and easy,upload would be nice..like ServeU-ftp in windows
[01:04] <ubijtsa2> wuftpd is an option, but I think there is a selection
[01:08] <fjellrev1> the wuftpd it is,thanks for stearing me into the right direction
[01:09] <ubijtsa2> np. there should be a package for anon-ftp somewhere as well. been years since I tinkered with it though
[01:18] <_Rosen_> is there any way that i can watch flashmovies in kubuntu64?
[01:22] <_Rosen_> is there any way that i can watch flashmovies in kubuntu64?
[01:23] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: HAHA
[01:23] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: Short answer:  no
[01:23] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: Long answer: Yes
[01:23] <JohnFlux> :-)
[01:23] <_Rosen_> ??????????+
[01:23] <_Rosen_> *?
[01:23] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: for flash, wma, etc there is no 64 bit binary libraries
[01:24] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: however you can set up a 32 bit chroot environment
[01:24] <mrmist> Anyone here use any ATI-drivers in breezy ?
[01:24] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: doing that will be a learning experience in itself
[01:24] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: I recommend trying if you have the time and you want to learn about your system
[01:25] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: if you want it "to just work", then no :-)
[01:25] <_Rosen_> JohnFlux, thanks, then i might try it this weekend
[01:29] <mrmist> ehm... anyone ?
[01:30] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: easiest way might be to just install 32 bit kubuntu on another partition
[01:30] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: then you can simply either reboot or use chroot
[01:31] <_Rosen_> JohnFlux, hookay, too bad that i aint got any free partitions anymore :( and i dont want to format any of them.
[01:32] <_Rosen_> ok, this is a really noobish question, but couldnt i run kubuntu32 in vmware?
[01:33] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: just google for setting up a 32 bit environment
[01:33] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: it's not that bad
[01:33] <JohnFlux> _Rosen_: but will take a day
[01:34] <_Rosen_> okay, as i said then ill try this weekend :P
[01:44] <mrmist> Is it worth while compiling Firefox for my system, or should I just download a binary ?
[01:46] <kosh> mrmist: sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:47] <mrmist> kosh: Yeah... for firefox 1.0.8
[01:47] <mrmist> Firefox is stable at 1.5.0.2 now
[01:48] <kosh> ah I see
[01:48] <kosh> I rarely use firefox
[01:48] <mrmist> hmm... what do you use then ?
[01:48] <kosh> konqueror
[01:48] <mrmist> Konqueror ?
[01:48] <kosh> renders faster and uses about 1/10th the resources of firefox
[01:49] <nico8481> firefox keeps crashing now and then here
[01:49] <nico8481> for no apparent reason
[01:49] <mrmist> There's some weird artifacts with mozilla-stuff in Linux though
[01:49] <mrmist> Things starts flashing gray frames and atuff
[01:49] <mrmist> stuff
[01:50] <Hobbsee> mrmist: download a mozilla binary
[01:51] <Hobbsee> that seems to only happen with the ubuntu packages...or a lot more often
[01:51] <mrmist> Hobbsee: I've downloaded i binary now
[01:51] <Hobbsee> oh ok
[01:52] <mrmist> Hobbsee: But how do I replace the functionality in the OS
[01:52] <kosh> gnome has some dependencies on firefox and so just upgrading firefox can break gnome
[01:52] <mrmist> ?
[01:52] <kosh> that is why it does not get upgraded to a new version
[01:52] <mrmist> ah... hmm
[01:52] <Hobbsee> which functionality in particular?
[01:52] <Hobbsee> !+firefox1.5
[01:52] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:52] <kosh> I don't know
[01:52] <kosh> it was covered on the channel a few times but I did not pay attention
[01:52] <mrmist> All shortcuts f.eks.
[01:52] <kosh> since I don't use gnome at all
[01:53] <mrmist> I don't use gnome wither
[01:53] <mrmist> either
[01:53] <mrmist> however I think the speed in KDE is too slow..
[01:53] <kosh> wonder what the problem is
[01:54] <kosh> I am not having any kde speed problems
[01:54] <mrmist> What kinda' machine are you running on ?
[01:54] <kosh> well this machine is an athlon xp 3200 with 2G of ram
[01:55] <mrmist> Even when just resizing a window, the grafics lags considerably
[01:55] <mrmist> hehehehe
[01:55] <kosh> however we run it on some latops with 192M of ram with no problems either
[01:55] <kosh> wow what video card do you have?
[01:55] <mrmist> This is a 1.8 GHz Intel machine with 500 MB ram
[01:56] <mrmist> I've got a ATI radeon 9800 Pro
[01:56] <mrmist> I've been wondering if I've set things up in a wrong way
[01:57] <kosh> are you trying to use any xgl stuff?
[01:57] <mrmist> Seems everyone running Linux have a nVidia card these days
[01:57] <mrmist> hmm
[01:57] <kosh> I am using two radeon cards right now
[01:57] <mrmist> xgl ? I'm in breezy
[01:57] <kosh> a 9100 and x850
[01:57] <mrmist> two ? SLI ?
[01:57] <kosh> if you don't know what I am talking about then you are not using xgl
[01:58] <mrmist> isn't xgl dapper-only ?
[01:58] <kosh> I have a quad monitors setup so two video cards
[01:58] <mrmist> Ah.. ok
[01:58] <mrmist> But XGL is dapper, right ?
[01:58] <mrmist> XGL and Compiz
[01:59] <mrmist> I've read something about it
[01:59] <kosh> it can be used in dapper but it is not part of dapper
[02:00] <kosh> once I have the money I will be replacing this computer and I will get nvidia graphics cards
[02:01] <_Rosen_> what is the problem: when im trying to use vlc it shows only the first 15secs of the film. plus the sound is kind of crappy
[02:04] <_Rosen_> what is the problem: when im trying to use vlc it shows only the first 15secs of the film. plus the sound is kind of crappy
[02:06] <WhyM> Hello there, did any of you install the del.icio.us sidebar for konqueror?
[02:06] <_Rosen_> what is the problem: when im trying to use vlc it shows only the first 15secs of the film. plus the sound is kind of crappy
[02:11] <mrmist> kosh: So you've got ATI and are going to buy nvidia ? Why ?
[02:12] <kosh> mrmist: well because the dual opteron board I want to get is an nvidia professional chipset and nvidia cards are supposed to work better with those chipsets then the ati cards
[02:12] <kosh> mrmist: also I want to be able to aiglx so that more work can be offloaded from the cpu to the graphics cards
[02:12] <mrmist> kosh: Do you use xgl in breezy ?
[02:13] <mrmist> alglx ?
[02:13] <kosh> mrmist: and because the geforce 7900 cardes have dual   dual link dvi connections
[02:13] <kosh> mrmist: I don't use xgl at all, I have no 3d accel of any kind, I can't get it to work with two radeon cards in the box
[02:13] <kosh> mrmist: if I take out one card it will work but then I lose two monitors which is not acceptable
[02:13] <mrmist> kosh: ah... but still KDE works out well ??
[02:13] <kosh> mrmist: I already asked nvidia and they support two video cards with 4 moitors and 3d accel on all of them
[02:13] <kosh> mrmist: yeah kde is working fine
[02:14] <mrmist> kosh: hmm.. what ATI-drivers do you use ?
[02:14] <mrmist> flglx ?
[02:14] <DeadS0ul> xgl isn't that well support in kde yet apparently
[02:17] <mrmist> actually, my Linux machine is slower when browsing the net, than WinXP
[02:19] <waylandbill> mrmist, I've noticed that using firefox on linux, I don't browse the net completely as fast as under XP sometimes.
[02:19] <mrmist> waylandbill: yeah.... I know
[02:19] <cfraz89> i've been thinking about that
[02:19] <cfraz89> and was thinking maybe its because of ipv6
[02:19] <mrmist> waylandbill: Even the UI in KDE is slower than the XP user-interface
[02:20] <kosh> mrmist: I just use the default free ati drivers
[02:20] <kosh> mrmist: you know the 2d only ones that come with x
[02:20] <kosh> mrmist: no problems with them at all
[02:20] <mrmist> hmm
[02:20] <waylandbill> mrmist, I think as time goes on, it'll get better though. It used to be even slower in the past.
[02:20] <mrmist> kosh: so you don't have any 3d-accelleration ?
[02:21] <mrmist> waylandbill: hmm... it did ? Strange...
[02:21] <mrmist> waylandbill: Maybe it's the JRE running in the background :P
[02:22] <waylandbill> It's faster than vista though. :-)
[02:23] <waylandbill> I saw that at a friends house. It was awful.
[02:24] <mrmist> ai
[02:24] <mrmist> hmm
[02:24] <mrmist> I'm reconfiguring xserver-xorg now
[02:24] <mrmist> is PCI:1:0:0 the AGP-port ??
[02:24] <cfraz89> yep
[02:25] <mrmist> Doesn't linux accellerate the AGP port, or is the PCI just an old name ?
[02:26] <mrmist> hmmm.... "use kernel framebuffer device interface" ?
[02:27] <dutch> morning
[02:28] <cfraz89> no
[02:28] <cfraz89> dont use framebuffer
[02:29] <Kabal> is it possible with linux (kubuntu) to log msn messages over own lan?
[02:34] <apricot> how to browse files with konqueror?
[02:35] <apricot> i entered google as the default home address
[02:35] <waylandbill> apricot, put the filesystem path in the address bar
[02:35] <apricot> wich one, how?
[02:36] <waylandbill> in the Location, put simply a ~
[02:36] <waylandbill> that'll bring you home
[02:36] <apricot> ok, got that
[02:36] <waylandbill> like they say... there's no place like $HOME   ;-)
[02:36] <apricot> and where is the default page of konqueror?
[02:36] <DeadS0ul> apricot: type in /home =D
[02:38] <apricot> that didnt work
[02:38] <apricot> there was a default page with home icon storage media etc.
[02:38] <waylandbill> apricot, file:///usr/share/apps/konqueror/about/launch.html
[02:38] <waylandbill> I suspect you mean that one.
[02:38] <kosh> mrmist: no I don't have any 3d acceleration under linux
[02:39] <kosh> mrmist: I can't use the ati binary only driver to do that, however so far I have also had no use for 3d accel of any kind
[02:39] <mrmist> ah... I do
[02:39] <kosh> mrmist: the only reason I want to use nvidia cards on my next box is that with aiglx there is a practical usage for 3d accel, I don't care about any of the effects I care about offloading work from the cpu to the video card
[02:39] <mrmist> kosh: I have nice 3d acceleration :)
[02:40] <waylandbill> apricot, I like that starting point.. I should edit mine to put google as a "starting point" as well. :-D
[02:40] <kosh> I write database software, I don't need 3d accel for my work in any way
[02:40] <kosh> and I have windows for games
[02:40] <apricot> lol
[02:41] <apricot> how to be root in konqueror?
[02:42] <v3ctor> sudo konqueror
[02:42] <kosh> alt-f2 kdesu konqueror
[02:43] <waylandbill> it'
[02:44] <waylandbill> it'd be nice to have an "Administrator" mode button like control panel does in the konquerer. :-)
[02:45] <_Rosen_> does anyone know the apt-get string for dc++ (thefilesharing prog)
[02:45] <kosh> ah well you are not supposed to be using konqueror as root
[02:45] <kosh> why are you trying to use it as root?
[02:46] <waylandbill> kosh, that's a point too. I don't know if I've ever used it as root
[02:46] <mrmist> Here's a strange problem though... whenever I scroll my mouse to quick in Firefox, it suddenly browses "back" on step
[02:47] <mrmist> too quick
[02:47] <kosh> waylandbill: hard to justify a feature if you can't think of what it should be used for
[02:47] <_Rosen_> does anyone know the apt-get string for dc++ (thefilesharing prog)
[02:47] <waylandbill> kosh, very true. :-)
[02:48] <apricot> can i give a user root access?
[02:48] <WhyM> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins        tallation and add the correct paths!
[02:48] <kosh> WhyM: you need the x devel package
[02:48] <WhyM> What package do I need to correct this ?
[02:48] <kosh> apricot: why?
[02:48] <WhyM> Thanks :-)
[02:48] <apricot> to menage files
[02:49] <mrmist> gotta boot... bbl :)
[02:49] <mrmist> bye
[02:49] <kosh> apricot: what kind of files do you have to manage as root?
[02:50] <apricot> copy into root privileged directories
[02:50] <kosh> like what are you actually trying to do
[02:51] <kosh> what directories only writable by root are you trying to regularly copy files into and why?
[02:52] <waylandbill> apricot, you can put the user into admin group, but I have the same questions as kosh. Normally, they wouldn't need access.
[02:53] <kosh> I don't like answering questions that involve how to load and fire a gun that is aimed at your foot
[02:53] <kosh> I first want to know why you are trying to shoot your foot :)
[02:53] <v3ctor> we need a "we won't support you if..." waiver  for those people
[02:53] <apricot> example: /var/www/ folder
[02:57] <apricot> where is it http://localhost/*.* located?
[02:58] <mhterres> morning
[02:58] <mhterres> hi Riddell
[02:58] <Riddell> hi
[02:59] <apricot> is http://localhost/ only in /var/www/ ?
[03:00] <DeadS0ul> you can to set it in your apache config
[03:01] <mrmist> hmm
[03:01] <mrmist> do anyone know what "xfree86-dga" is ?
[03:03] <waylandbill> I thought apache was made with suexec support. Maybe I'm wrong.
[03:03] <WhyM> kosh: Sorry to bother but I can't find the correct name of an x devel package... I thought it was something like xfree86-dev but don't find any in the repositories...
[03:03] <apricot> is there another kde file browser ?
[03:05] <vinboy> wat is the reiserfs version tat comes with ubuntu?
[03:08] <waylandbill> apricot, you can use another file manager such as krusader if you want to. Use whatever you'd be most productive with.
[03:14] <apricot> krusader is my discovery!
[03:17] <mornfall> Riddell: so someone is going to implement that? do they know what they are doing?
[03:18] <mornfall> Riddell: if he wants to do what's in the mockups, then the code is not going into my copy of source, too
[03:20] <kosh> WhyM: probably someone like xserver-xorg-dev
[03:21] <apricot> what is katapult for?
[03:21] <kosh> for launching cats out of windows of course ;)
[03:22] <waylandbill> lol
[03:22] <WhyM> Mmmh... installing xserver-xorg-dev didn't solve the issue...
[03:22] <waylandbill> it's an application launcher.
[03:22] <apricot> does it need to be in icontray?
[03:23] <apricot> i don't like the look of the icon! :)
[03:23] <kosh> WhyM: look at apt-cache search xorg dev
[03:23] <kosh> WhyM:  there are lots of devel files, no idea which you need
[03:24] <WhyM> oki, i'll look into it...
[03:37] <apricot> can konqueror save passwords?
[03:38] <kosh> apricot: no however it is not konqueror jobs to do that, kwallet is what stores passwords
[03:38] <kosh> apricot: however kwallet can store passwords for any kde application and it makes it all encrypted
[03:39] <mark---> apricot: to my knowledge konq does not store passwords but KDE wallet will.
[03:39] <Riddell> does anyone here use kuickshow?
[03:39] <kosh> I have a few times
[03:39] <kosh> what question do you have?
[03:42] <Riddell> kosh: just wondering how badly you'd miss it if it disappeared
[03:43] <mhterres> Riddell: why disappear ??? don't do this :-)
[03:43] <mhterres> It's a nice program, very easy to use
[03:43] <Riddell> mhterres: it's the last thing in main which uses imlib, an obsolete library
[03:44] <Riddell> mhterres: what's better about it than say gwenview or digikam?
[03:46] <kosh> Riddell: mostly I use it from time to time since I have used it in the past, it has worked well when clients send us cds of artwork that we need to put up on a site
[03:47] <kosh> Riddell: for example we just got a contract and the client has thousands of signs they want to put on the site and it is easy in kuickshow to have it set for fairly large thumbnails and then just scroll through to find what we need
[03:47] <mhterres> Riddell: digikam off course
[03:47] <Riddell> kosh: can't you just use konqueror?
[03:48] <kosh> Riddell: I don't know of any way to make the thumbnails that large in konqueror
[03:48] <kosh> Riddell: with kuickshow you can scale the thumbnails to any size you want
[03:48] <kosh> Riddell: so we can do 3 inch thunbnails trivially and rescale if needed
[03:49] <Riddell> kosh: or gwenview?
[03:50] <kosh> gwenview would probably work, just have not looked at it in years
[03:57] <kosh> Riddell: isn't kuickshow part of kdemultimedia?
[03:59] <tomplast> hi
[03:59] <tomplast> can anyone tell me why i only get grayscale on tv-out with nvtv?
[04:00] <zaikxtox> hello. does kubuntu installer on 6.06 still erases partitions?
[04:02] <WhyM> On live version, it did to me yesterday...
[04:03] <tomplast> anyone :'(
[04:03] <tomplast> i really  wanna watch go open source on my tv :'(/
[04:04] <apricot> how to run kwallet at startup?
[04:05] <apricot> and my dsl connection does not run at startup!
[04:05] <kosh> just run it once and it should run from then on at startup
[04:05] <kosh> your dsl connection should happen at boot up not at kde startup
[04:05] <Riddell> kosh: kdegraphics
[04:06] <Riddell> zaikxtox: use the daily-live c
[04:06] <Riddell> CD
[04:06] <kosh> no idea why it is not, I have been using dsl for years with a nice external cisco router and it just works with everything
[04:06] <apricot> it does in dnome
[04:06] <apricot> gnome
[04:06] <kosh> Riddell: in which case why would it be removed if it is a default part of kde?
[04:06] <zaikxtox> thanks Riddell
[04:07] <Riddell> kosh: because we want imlib1 out of main, and kuickshow is the last thing to use it
[04:07] <kosh> Riddell: ah, why is there a push to remove imlib1?
[04:08] <kosh> it looks like it is less then a meg in size so why does it matter?
[04:08] <Riddell> kosh: it's obsoleted by imlib2 (which kuickshow can't use unfortunately), and it's very bad for a long term release to have obsolete libraries in it
[04:08] <Riddell> there's no security for imlib1
[04:09] <kosh> are there any security problems in it?
[04:09] <kosh> if a library is obsolted but no known issues why not leave it alone?
[04:09] <Riddell> kosh: no known security problems but if any appear there's nobody to fix them
[04:10] <kosh> so until one appears why not leave it alone?
[04:10] <Riddell> because we have to release with something we can support for 5 years
[04:11] <kosh> well that won't happen anyways
[04:12] <Riddell> what won't?
[04:12] <kosh> the version of perl you ship now will probably not be supported in 5 years by the perl developers
[04:12] <kosh> same for python, gcc, x etc
[04:12] <kosh> kde only supports the most recent version so you know that is out also
[04:12] <waylandbill> if it's using an obsoleted library, it's life cycle is limited too unless it's rewritten to use the replacement.
[04:14] <kosh> I just don't like removing software that is not broken and works pretty well
[04:14] <kosh> it just seems pointless
[04:15] <kosh> it just seems strange
[04:16] <vinboy> i just formatted my partition as reiserfs, how do I mount it now??
[04:16] <v3ctor> you have to end supprt at some point
[04:16] <v3ctor> why not now
[04:16] <kosh> heck dapper has python 2.1 and 2.3 and neither of those are really supported anymore however a lot of stuff depends on both of them
[04:16] <kosh> v3ctor: it seems as long as it is a default part of kde it should be left in
[04:17] <kosh> v3ctor: let kde remove it or update it
[04:20] <WhyM> Is it normal the Synaptic package wouldn't add a K menu entry?
[04:24] <HymnToLife> WhyM> add it yourself than ;)
[04:24] <HymnToLife> then*
[04:28] <prower> Hello everyone :> I just installed KDE 3.5.2 in Breezy...for some reason, kcm_konsole.la is missing from the konsole package? Is there any way this can be fixed?
[04:31] <chowells2_> just installed dapper flight 6. After the initial install, on booting, should installation continue to configure X and stuff?
[04:31] <HymnToLife> dapper issues on #ubuntu+1 please :)
[04:32] <chowells2_> ok thanks
[04:33] <v3ctor> prower: try reinstalling konsole package
[04:55] <mhterres> Hey Riddell
[04:55] <Riddell> hmm?
[04:55] <prower> v3ctor: Oh, sorry for the delay...I did try that, but the file still appears to be missing. One message on a forum suggested that they're not even in the DEB
[04:56] <mhterres> Kubuntu will be distributed in CDs like Ubuntu Dapper ?
[04:56] <mhterres> or in DVDs ?
[04:56] <dverzolla> anyone knows when the beta2 off dapper drake be released?
[04:58] <dverzolla> I'm getting the error of 6.06 in the espresso
[04:59] <mhterres> Riddell: is it possible ?
[05:00] <mhterres> cause kubuntu could gain lots of new users if it have a free CD
[05:00] <Riddell> mhterres: we'll have "Desktop CD", "Text Installer CD" and DVD
[05:00] <Riddell> the Desktop CD will be in shipit for free
[05:01] <Riddell> dverzolla: today
[05:01] <Riddell> dverzolla: (probably)
[05:01] <mhterres> Riddell: It'll be distribuited in shipit.ubuntu.com ?
[05:02] <Riddell> mhterres: yes, that's the plan
[05:02] <mhterres> mhterres: Ohh, great
[05:03] <mhterres> I was talking with aseigo in fisl last week and I was telling him that we had a LTSP installation with about 1000 terminals, running Ubuntu
[05:03] <mhterres> He asks me if we were using KDE but I we are using gnome, because the people doesn't know Kubuntu
[05:04] <mhterres> because they receive the ubuntu CDs and uses Gnome
[05:04] <dverzolla> Riddell, its possible to download they from some CVS?
[05:04] <mhterres> :-(
[05:04] <dverzolla> Riddell, the lastest version...
[05:05] <Riddell> dverzolla: we don't keep CDs in CVS :)  but these are expected to become beta 2 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060427/
[05:05] <iqon> is there a way to open gtk apps with the current gnome theme when using kde?
[05:05] <mhterres> Riddell: so it's very important to have Kubuntu CDs to ship to people, so they can use it and distribute to their friends :-)
[05:06] <Riddell> mhterres: yeah, shipit will be great
[05:06] <mhterres> nice Riddell
[05:06] <mhterres> I think I'll ask for 1 box of Ubuntu and a box of Kubuntu :-D
[05:07] <waylandbill> shipit would be awesome
[05:07] <dverzolla> Riddell, Your opinion, I wait to beta 2 or install the dayli-live ?
[05:08] <Riddell> dverzolla: try the daily-live, I don't see any reasons for any kubuntu changes for beta 2
[05:09] <dverzolla> Riddell, in the page: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/dapper-beta.php
[05:10] <dverzolla> Show the note: there is a bug in the live CD installer known to cause data loss, please wait for beta 2 before using it.
[05:11] <Riddell> dverzolla: what about it?
[05:11] <dverzolla> Riddell, I will try the daily-live ;) tks
[05:13] <bert> Why is there so many changes of the same file all the time/ Should we just not download some files and wait a while to download otheres
[05:14] <_palou> how can install mplayer in my kubuntu??
[05:16] <robotgeek> palou: install usinf adept, after enabling universe
[05:17] <palou> how can install mpalyer in my kubuntu?? (pm me)
[05:17] <v3ctor> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/index.htm#mplayer
[05:17] <munzir> Hi, In konqueror there is a google search box. If I searched for anything it would auto suggest other searches and gives some sizes, what's this? where is it documented?
[05:18] <robotgeek> munzir: it's the google suggest plugin, you need to enable it from Tools -> Plugins (maybe)
[05:21] <munzir> robotgeek: and what that size like 'linux (2000G)' means?
[05:26] <DeadS0ul1> how's sata support under linux?
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> as long as your not booting it fine
[05:27] <palou> when i try to install mplayer i take this error
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> if your booting, it can be edgy
[05:27] <palou> palou@MadPower:/wolf$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[05:27] <palou> Reading package lists... Done
[05:27] <palou> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:27] <palou> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-386
[05:28] <DeadS0ul1> really
[05:28] <DeadS0ul1> weird it's been out for a while
[05:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> palou, make sure you have multiverse enabled.
[05:28] <justanotheruser> konqueror popup blockers doesn't work on www.mvv.nl  Should i report this on launchpad or bugd.kde.org?
[05:28] <justanotheruser> *bugS
[05:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> DeadS0ul, that was last time i tried b ooting. its been a while
[05:28] <DeadS0ul1> how long is a while?
[05:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> justanotheruser, if you have an accouth with kde, do them
[05:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> DeadS0ul, over 12 months
[05:29] <v3ctor> palou: sorry...work pulled me away
[05:29] <justanotheruser> Kamping_Kaiser: alright (i have yes..)
[05:30] <v3ctor> palou: you need to add repo for it
[05:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> justanotheruser, thanks. its worth checking both BTS's for a note on the bug already, butw
[05:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> *btw
[05:32] <justanotheruser> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, i should check what code initiate the popup first. Dunno if i can trigger it though, but i'll do my best
[05:44] <munzir> Kamping_Kaiser: DeadS0ul1: sata boots fine for me
[05:44] <palou> thx! no i will try to install java
[05:45] <vge> hey, how do i update my eth0 after i have changed from dhcp back to static in non GUI interface? ifup nor /etc/init.d/networking restart will not reconfiqure the networkcard?
[05:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> munzir, cool :) i'll bear it in mind
[05:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> vge, make sure you have eth? auto in /etc/network/interfaces (eth? is the ethernet card in question)
[05:47] <DeadS0ul1> vge, two lines
[05:47] <vge> Kaiser_Away: it has, and yes, ethernet card is in question
[05:47] <DeadS0ul1> in /etc/network/interfaces, instead of static, change it to dhcp and comment out all the addresses/netmask etc etc
[05:48] <vge> yes, that works for dhcp, but when i come back to static i need to reboot as i see it
[05:48] <vge> !pastebin
[05:48] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:50] <vge> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12975 <-- this occures when i change back to static?
[06:03] <ep> How do I create a sym-link to another folder using the Konqueror file browser.  The right click menu presents "Create new" --> (1)Link to application (2) link to url (3) link to url.  Where is the link to file or folder?
[06:03] <noname> hi there anyone have few minutes to help a total newbie with installing programs *running linux first time 1 hour ago"
[06:03] <ep> (3) link to device I mean
[06:04] <HymnToLife> ep> what's wrong with the command line ?
[06:04] <ep> i love the command line.  sometimes its more convient to use konq if you already there
[06:04] <HymnToLife> it's quite easy : (sudo) ln -s /pth/to/target /path/tolink
[06:04] <apokryphos> noname: sure. In GNU/Linux most of the software that you'll find is licensed as "Free Software" (that was the original mission of GNU)
[06:05] <apokryphos> noname: because of this, all the packages can be packaged for particular distributions however you like, and then held in repositories
[06:05] <apokryphos> noname: other package managers, now, can automatically interact with such repositories to automatically download+install applications seamlessly. It's very effective.
[06:05] <noname> ok . for example i want to install firefox i went to the site and then downloaded the program . when i extract it and then enter the folder click on firefox nothing happens
[06:06] <apokryphos> noname: in Kubuntu, the graphical package manager used is "Adept". Fire it up by going to K Menu > System > Adept (Package Manager), IIRC.
[06:06] <apokryphos> noname: nope, that's the beauty of GNU/Linux. :) You don't have to surf to any site to get it.
[06:06] <HymnToLife> !tel noname about ff1.5
[06:06] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[06:06] <HymnToLife> !tell noname about ff1.5
[06:06] <apokryphos> HymnToLife: better get him using the standard ff that comes with Kubuntu first
[06:06] <HymnToLife> apokryphos> well, for firefox you have to ;)
[06:07] <apokryphos> HymnToLife: nope, not adding repositories or any other stuff. Quick n' dirty adept installing :)
[06:07] <justanotheruser> Kamping_Kaiser: it's the javascript "window.open" that initiate the popup, this works while the permissions for javascript in konqueror settings is set to intelligent. Dunno if this a bug then, because what actually does intelligent, i dunno...
[06:07] <HymnToLife> apokryphos> well the standard ff that comes with Ubuntu sucks
[06:07] <apokryphos> HymnToLife: that depends a lot on what you're using it for. And anyhow, this is to demonstrate a point (of how the vast majority of installations will be done).
[06:08] <HymnToLife> of course
[06:08] <noname> how i can private msg ?
[06:08] <HymnToLife> but not ALL of them ;)
[06:08] <apokryphos> noname: /query username
[06:08] <HymnToLife> noname> you have to register your nickname
[06:08] <apokryphos> !register
[06:08] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:08] <HymnToLife> /msg nickserv register password email
[06:08] <noname> ok let me register
[06:13] <Saaida> hymntolife : can i prv msg u ?
[06:14] <HymnToLife> of course :)
[06:14] <noteventime> What license does kdelibs use? GPL+Qt?
[06:18] <apokryphos> noteventime: LGPL
[06:18] <noteventime> ok :), How does that work with QT?
[06:19] <apokryphos> noteventime: what do you mean?
[06:20] <apokryphos> LGPL software is still "free software"
[06:20] <noteventime> Isn't there some QT code in the kdelibs, or does it just use them?
[06:20] <apokryphos> KDE is Qt-based, yes.
[06:21] <apokryphos> noteventime: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/licensing.html
[06:22] <apokryphos> note however that the Qt license changed for Qt4
[06:23] <noteventime> How?
[06:23] <apokryphos> Qt4 for Windoze is GPL'd
[06:24] <noteventime> ahhh, Thats why they are porting the KDE libs to windows
[06:24] <DeadS0ul1> qt is gpl for windows n..that's the change right?
[06:24] <apokryphos> http://www.trolltech.com/newsroom/announcements/00000192.html
[06:24] <noteventime> thanks :)
[06:24] <apokryphos> DeadS0ul: yes
[06:24] <apokryphos> noteventime: yup, exactly
[06:24] <rmn30> hi folks
[06:24] <noteventime> 'ello
[06:24] <rmn30> is anyone having problems with amarok these days?
[06:25] <noteventime> rmn30, no :)
[06:25] <noteventime> Which version?
[06:25] <rmn30> it segfaults right after i start it and i can't think what i might have done
[06:25] <rmn30> the one in kubuntu.org repositories 1.3.8
[06:25] <apokryphos> try upgrading
[06:26] <noteventime> :/ Thats wierd, did you build any libs lately?
[06:26] <apokryphos> http://kubuntu.org for list of latest amarok packs
[06:26] <rmn30> not manually
[06:26] <rmn30> i'm on breezy not dapper
[06:26] <rmn30> can i use those packages?
[06:26] <apokryphos> noteventime: not many people are building libs on kde4, it's still a bit of landmine 8)
[06:26] <apokryphos> and plus, cmake will take some getting used to
[06:27] <rmn30> i'm building from source now so i can get some decent debug info
[06:27] <apokryphos> rmn30: hm, nope.
[06:27] <apokryphos> rmn30: if you're building from source you might as well used latest amarok :)
[06:28] <noteventime> I'm using 1.4-beta3 works like a charm :)
[06:28] <rmn30> true - if build-deps are satisfied
[06:28] <apokryphos> rmn30: sudo apt-get build-dep amarok libtag (or whatever the pack is called)
[06:28] <apokryphos> !search libtag breezy
[06:28] <ubotu> apokryphos: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:28] <apokryphos> !find libtag breezy
[06:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'libtag' (8 shown): libtag1-dev ;; libtag1-doc ;; libtag1c2 ;; libtagc0 ;; libtagc0-dev ;; libtagcoll-dev ;; libtagcoll0c2 ;; libtagcoll1-dev.
[06:28] <apokryphos> curious n aming scheme. libtag1c2 I guess
[06:29] <rmn30> ok guess i'll have a much around
[06:29] <noteventime> rmn30, Why are you still on breezy?
[06:31] <rmn30> how do i enable debugging symbols when building?
[06:31] <noteventime> give the compiler the -g argument
[06:31] <noteventime> --enable-debug
[06:31] <noteventime> for make
[06:32] <rmn30> if using dpkg-buildpackage?
[06:32] <noteventime> I have no idea ^^, never used it
[06:32] <rmn30> ok
[06:32] <rmn30> thanks folks
[06:32] <noteventime> I think --enable-debug there too
[06:35] <rmn30> noteventime : i'm using this machine for working and don't want to break too much stuff
[06:36] <rmn30> also college have complained about bandwidth usage
[06:36] <noteventime> haha :)
[06:36] <rmn30> :-)
[06:36] <noteventime> Too used to windows update AKA ONE-PUNY-UPDATE-A-YEAR
[06:37] <leagris> how about bugs reported since 2004/08 still present in kde. I am not programmer nor do I have enough knowledge to avoid it but here it is if you know more about how to fix it: https://bugs.kde.org/show_activity.cgi?id=84209
[06:38] <leagris> oups bug here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84209
[06:38] <Ubugtu> KDE bug 84209 in general "kmix doesn't show newly plugged devices (i.e. usb microphone)" [Wishlist,New] 
[06:39] <noteventime> It's on the Wishlist :)
[06:40] <leagris> alternatively, is ther another mixer that would work around until kmix become hotplug aware ?
[06:40] <noteventime> Are you sure KMix isn't? Never tried
[06:41] <leagris> what do you mean noteventime. Kmix doesn't use udev notifications so if you plug a new mixer device it doesn't show up. You need to quit/restart kmix.
[06:41] <noteventime> Could be fixed by now but the bugtracker wasn't updated
[06:42] <sredna> So, after last update my fonts are tiny-tiny-tiny :(
[06:42] <leagris> Then if you unplug a mixer device shown on Kmix. Kmix takes 100% CPU until you kill it
[06:42] <krille> Hello! Someon from sweden  in here?
[06:42] <noteventime> Yes
[06:42] <noteventime> me
[06:42] <noteventime> hejsan
[06:42] <krille> Va bra! :D Jag har precis installerat Kubuntu, helt ny vad det gller linux
[06:42] <krille> Men jag behlver lite hjlp
[06:42] <noteventime> Only english in here, join #kubuntu-se
[06:43] <noteventime> not official :D
[06:45] <waylandbill> noteventime, hehe
[06:45] <sredna> Which package contains the xorg.conf manpage?
[06:46] <DeadS0ul> heh
[06:46] <DeadS0ul> lemme check
[06:46] <sredna> I'ts not a proper installation with no xorg.conf manual!
[06:46] <DeadS0ul> xserver-org
[06:48] <DeadS0ul> ack wait there's isn't one there
[06:48] <sredna> Maybe it's in ubuntudocs, which I had to uninstall at some point because it was broken
[06:49] <sredna> Anyway, I fail to understand why an update had to delete my config data
[06:50] <DeadS0ul> werid
[06:50] <stevekl> This is a bit off-topic but is it normal for me to get good results with anti-aliasing on a CRT monitor,  but on my LCD display it makes fonts worse?
[06:50] <Brujah> hy everbody
[06:51] <mhterres> hi
[06:51] <noteventime> 'ello
[06:51] <noteventime> stevekl, I don't think so :)
[06:51] <Brujah> when I get my mails with kmail the whole program becomes unusable and I have to wait until the download finishes. Has anybody encountered the same problem? (I am using dapper drake)
[06:52] <stevekl> some fonts look better with AA
[06:52] <stevekl> some don't
[06:52] <stevekl> I guess I configured something wrong
[06:57] <fjellrev1> some of my windows are "too big" for my desktop,they go under,beyond my desktop and I cant resize the windows,is this normal?
[07:00] <Mez> Riddell: ping
[07:01] <HymnToLife> !tell Saaida about ff1.5
[07:01] <noteventime> fjellrev01, hold down alt and drag the window
[07:02] <fjellrev1> noteventime: eureeeeka!thanks a lot
[07:02] <noteventime> np :)
[07:03] <Mez> what package was it i need for mp3 playbvack again?
[07:05] <amel>  .
[07:05] <amel> ?
[07:05] <amel> How to setup icq?
[07:06] <Mez> amel - run kopete - it gives you a wizard on first run
[07:07] <WhyM> amel: Have you tried with Kopete ?
[07:07] <amel> No, I  haven't?
[07:07] <Brujah> Mez: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28formats%29
[07:08] <WhyM> Go to K menu>Internet>Kopete
[07:08] <Mez> Brujah, cheers! It's been a while since I've set up a system from scratch!
[07:08] <Mez> though I still dunno if I can get the sound card working...it's being annoying
[07:08] <Brujah> Mez: I am also new to kununtu but already totally in love! :-)
[07:09] <amel> It's my first time in Kubuntu
[07:10] <amel> And I have a problem with audio
[07:12] <sredna> Since installing kubuntu-docs didn't buy me a copy of the xorg.conf manual, can anyone remember the syntax for specifying the screen dimemsions?
[07:13] <robotgeek> !fixres
[07:13] <ubotu> fixres is, like, totally, Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:13] <robotgeek> sredna: ^^
[07:14] <sredna> I do NOT need to fix my resolution, I need to restore my configuration data which kubuntu deleted
[07:14] <robotgeek> sredna, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:15] <robotgeek> if kubuntu overwrote something, it must have backed it up in /etc/X11/
[07:15] <sredna> robotgeek: Ty
[07:15] <robotgeek> sredna: is this dapper beta?
[07:16] <sredna> Yes
[07:16] <justanotheruser> guys, before i report a bug on kde.org... What actually IS the "smart" setting for javascript pop-up blocking in konqueror?
[07:16] <noteventime> !pastebin
[07:16] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:16] <Emess> amel: go to K menu > internet > kopete and add a new account for icq
[07:17] <robotgeek> justanotheruser: i think if it a popup u click, it allows it, otherwise discards it
[07:17] <|lostbyte|> Anyone here having an ovislink wifi dogle ? pls use my name to reply..
[07:17] <robotgeek> |lostbyte|: have you check the !wireless page?
[07:18] <Emess> and for all ew users, i recomend automatix, its great for getting basic codecs and stuff set up
[07:18] <justanotheruser> robotgeek: i have the same thought ( www.mvv.nl is a bug then, i'll report it now...)
[07:18] <robotgeek> !automatix
[07:18] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:18] <|lostbyte|> robotgeek: wireless page ?
[07:18] <robotgeek> |lostbyte|: check pm from ubotu :)
[07:19] <|lostbyte|> robotgeek: oh ! that.. ok..
[07:19] <robotgeek> Emess: please don't recommend automatix.
[07:20] <|lostbyte|> robotgeek: :( its not on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:20] <robotgeek> |lostbyte|: do you know what chipset it is (lsusb )
[07:20] <|lostbyte|> robotgeek: just a sec..
[07:21] <|lostbyte|> robotgeek: Bus 005 Device 005: ID 0457:0163 Silicon Integrated Systems Corp.
[07:22] <robotgeek> |lostbyte|: you should have a link to linux wireless card list on !wireless, check it there
[07:23] <|lostbyte|> wants you to know: I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[07:23] <|lostbyte|> thats what it says..
[07:23] <robotgeek> |lostbyte|: moment
[07:23] <sredna> God damn it all
[07:23] <|lostbyte|> k
[07:24] <sredna> Where can I get an xorg.conf.5? Even the one found by googld is not existing
[07:24] <robotgeek> |lostbyte|: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Ovislink&zoek=Show
[07:24] <robotgeek> sredna: you mean the man page?
[07:24] <sredna> robotgeek: Yes, because kubunto FAILS TO ONSTALL IT
[07:24] <sredna> Install
[07:24] <sredna> Damn it
[07:25] <robotgeek> sredna: patience :)
[07:25] <osh_> sredna: Which version? I've got it in breezy. You on dapper?
[07:26] <|lostbyte|> robotgeek: :( darn.. mines 5460usb..
[07:26] <Saaida> does anyone know how to disable the single click and return to double click on konqueror ?
[07:26] <perzivan> where is the default install path to kopete if you installed it with the package manager
[07:26] <robotgeek> |lostbyte|: so it isn't on that list, <sigh>
[07:27] <osh_> perzivan: /usr/bin/kopete
[07:28] <Brujah> perzivan: ~/.kde/apps
[07:28] <perzivan> Thank you osh
[07:28] <osh_> perzivan: or that's where the binary is anyway.
[07:28] <perzivan> oh, I will check both, thanks to you both. I am trying to locate a log file from an old conversation
[07:29] <Brujah> parz: puhh. guess that was wrong :-(
[07:29] <robotgeek> |lostbyte|: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3410
[07:29] <Brujah> parz: ~/.kde/share/apps
[07:29] <osh_> perzivan: log-files are probably not in /usr/bin. Have a look in your home-dir (perhaps .konversation or something) or in /usr/log/
[07:30] <osh_> perzivan: no, /var/log naturally
[07:30] <DeadS0ul> bed time
[07:30] <DeadS0ul> nite guys
[07:30] <sredna> Now, is there a way I can prevent kubuntu from overwriting my config data?
[07:30] <perzivan> okay =)
[07:31] <Saaida> does anyone know how to disable the single click and return to double click on konqueror ?
[07:32] <sredna> Saaida: In the mouse configuration control module
[07:33] <waylandbill> Saaida: in the control center.
[07:33] <sredna> The kde one
[07:33] <MEtaLpREs> has anyone had any success installing w32codecs or flash on amd64 version?
[07:33] <waylandbill> Personally, I love the single click, it feels more like surfing the web. :-)
[07:33] <robotgeek> sredna: backup your .kde and resotre it later? (sorry, cheap but works?)
[07:34] <sredna> robotgeek: That will not keep /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:34] <robotgeek> sredna: hmm, i misunderstood.
[07:34] <osh_> MEtaLpREs: Sure, but you need to do it in a chroot that has the 32-bit binaries. w32codecs don't work well in 64-bit. Not the last time I tried anyway.
[07:35] <robotgeek> sredna: prevent it from overwriting when?
[07:35] <HymnToLife> osh_> not anymore, ther's a way to use w32codecs on a 64 bit system, hold on a sec
[07:35] <HymnToLife> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[07:35] <HymnToLife> !w32codecs
[07:35] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:35] <sredna> robotgeek: Appearently, updating some x related package
[07:36] <Brujah> is there a way to remove the spam checking from kmail after invoking the assistant once?
[07:36] <osh_> HymnToLife: oh, ok. havent tried it in a while.
[07:36] <MEtaLpREs> thanks, i'll give that a shot
[07:36] <jobezone> sredna: if you already have ubuntu installed, you can install the kubuntu metapackage (is it kubuntu-desktop) and the /etc/X11/xorg.conf won't be touched as all, as it's handled by the xserver-xorg package. But probably you're using a non-ubuntu distro now?
[07:36] <HymnToLife> !no w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install. To use w32codecs on a 64-bit system, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[07:36] <ubotu> HymnToLife: okay
[07:37] <sredna> jobezone: I have kubuntu installed
[07:37] <jobezone> sredna: nevermind, just saw your reply before
[07:37] <sredna> Updating messed up my X config
[07:38] <sredna> I restored it
[07:38] <sredna> Now I'd love to keep it (though I might remember the name of the option for some time)
[07:39] <perzivan> Bye! and thanks again for the help. I found what I was looking for
[07:40] <jobezone> sredna: if you're only changes where done to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then you can make a backup of it. Also, I think that this file is automatically backed up (copied to a similar name and the date) if the system(which part, I don't know) notices it has been customized when upgrading.
[07:40] <sredna> Ok
[07:40] <sredna> Thank yoiu
[07:41] <shadow_> robotgeek: hi ! back..
[07:41] <shadow_> robotgeek: HAve you used ndiswrapper ?
[07:41] <jobezone> you'll probably notice you have files called xorg.conf.200603091212
[07:41] <robotgeek> shadow_: nope, i am on ppc
[07:41] <jobezone> in the /etc/X11 directory.
[07:42] <robotgeek> shadow_: the wiki page is quite nice, i think
[07:42] <menno> hi!  is there someone who uses twinview in Dapper? (and succeeded?)
[07:42] <shadow_> robotgeek: I am in a situation where the ndiswrapper loads the driver and does'nt display the config ..
[07:45] <synie> hello
[07:45] <imbrandon> menno, lots of poeple just search the forums ( i dont personaly but i've seen lots of successfull threads about it )
[07:47] <menno> imbrandon: yes i did as well but it just did not work
[07:47] <synie> i want to add a beamer to my notebook. what do i need to change ? do i need do add any changes to the xorg.conf ?
[07:47] <menno> imbrandon: i even tried one out in french!
[07:48] <imbrandon> ouch
[07:48] <menno> i can talk french now
[07:49] <imbrandon> i'm sorry ;) lol j/k
[07:49] <menno> bien sur
[07:49] <imbrandon> brb coffee break
[07:50] <menno> bon apetit
[08:13] <noname> i just got this error when i try to run upgrade . the system crashed and then rebooted it and now i get an error
[08:13] <Armagguedes> hello
[08:13] <noname> skype: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installed
[08:13] <Armagguedes> im running on dapper; does anyone know if i need special drivers to access DL dvds?
[08:14] <noname> it was after unsuccesfull try of installing skype
[08:14] <Armagguedes> i know this DL is properly burned
[08:18] <egonw_> hi all, any can help me setting up apache/tomcat on dapper?
[08:19] <egonw_> "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" does not do much :(
[08:31] <noname> anyone is up now ?
[08:34] <osh_> noname: I am.
[08:34] <rmn30> anyone home?
[08:34] <osh_> rmn30: yes
[08:34] <rmn30> hi
[08:34] <rmn30> do you use amarok?
[08:34] <osh_> rmn30: yes. a little.
[08:34] <rmn30> i have a file that reliably causes it to crash on my machine
[08:35] <osh_> rmn30: I have one of those too. I use it to crash kaffeine.
[08:36] <rmn30> would you mind trying to play this http://people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/rmn30/01 Clandestino.mp3
[08:36] <rmn30> thought it might be worth filing a bug report
[08:38] <osh_> rmn30: oh yess. it does crash amarok.
[08:40] <osh_> rmn30: if you report it as a bug I'll provide a stack-trace.
[08:41] <rmn30> just compiling from source now
[08:41] <rmn30> so should be able to do stack trace myself
[08:41] <rmn30> i'm not on dapper but using amarok from kubuntu repositories
[08:41] <rmn30> so its reasonably up to date
[08:42] <osh_> rmn30: if you're reporting it, perhaps it's better to report the one with the distribution?
[08:42] <osh_> rmn30: it appears that there's something weird in the file because it just does a shutdown in the middle of a "read".
[08:42] <rmn30> hmmm
[08:43] <rmn30> yes it does glitch in other players i've tried sometimes
[08:43] <rmn30> but amarok still shouldn't crash..
[08:46] <rmn30> ok i'm going to try with a dapper live cd to see if its still current
[08:48] <rmn30> actually probably related to this https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/24639
[08:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 24639 in amarok "mp3s encoded by iTunes that have album art cause amarok to crash" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[08:48] <HymnToLife> oh
[08:48] <HymnToLife> so THAT's why my mp3s didn't work
[08:48] <osh_> rmn30: it appears that there's something weird in the file because it just does a shutdown in the middle of a "read".wqqq^ghhy5rhyyu7hrymnjhiuop
[08:49] <osh_> y C,l.
[08:49] <osh_> jllbj uyorft54
[08:49] <osh_> sorry, that was my son...
[08:50] <nico8481> hehe
[08:50] <rmn30> he he
[08:52] <buz> has anyne ever had any success with dual head config in guidance?
[08:54] <jarle> How do I go about to remove the MARK in /var/log/messages that syslogd puts there every 20 mins?
[08:56] <crimsun> you don't w/o recompiling the source
[08:56] <crimsun> the mark is a good thing
[08:59] <osh_> Anyone know anything about hardware accel on a dell d810 (VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5460). Last I heard it was too new to get it to work.
[09:02] <krenx> how do I use the ftp client in Kubuntu ?
[09:03] <rmn30> have you tried konqueror?
[09:04] <krenx> ftp://blabla:blabla@ip       ?
[09:04] <rmn30> yes should work
[09:05] <krenx> yea, but in adept is says theres a ftp client installed
[09:05] <rmn30> or just miss out the username and password and just use the ftp://ip
[09:05] <rmn30> oh
[09:05] <krenx> (by default)
[09:05] <rmn30> what's it called?
[09:06] <rmn30> oh
[09:06] <rmn30> that is the command line one
[09:06] <metalpres> maybe someone can help me with this, everytime I try to install the drivers for my radeon card my computer then wont boot, it freezes at the same spot when booting at "Checking battery state" or something and wont go any further
[09:06] <rmn30> probably best to steer clear of that unless you have a good reason
[09:06] <rmn30> what about kbear?
[09:07] <rmn30> that is installed on my system
[09:07] <rmn30> type ALT+F2 then type kbear
[09:07] <jarle> After installing Ubuntu my files with Norwegian letters in the filename is not displayed correctly, this happens both in terminal and when running X. Any ideas?
[09:07] <metalpres> the only way I can get my computer to boot back up is to completely wipe everything out and reinstall kubuntu, is there an easier way to fix this without having to reformat?
[09:08] <rmn30> sorry don't know anything about radeo cards
[09:08] <rmn30> but you could try booting from a live cd
[09:09] <rmn30> jarle: are you using gnome-terminal?
[09:09] <rmn30> or konsole
[09:09] <rmn30> (forgot i was in the kubuntu channel...)
[09:10] <noname> anyone is alive that can help with sound problem ?
[09:10] <jarle> rmn30: I see this problem in both Konqueror, Eterm and in the console (not running X)
[09:11] <osh_> Direct rendering is something that should be running isn't it?
[09:11] <uniq> jarle: are the filenames UTF-8 ?
[09:11] <rmn30> probably
[09:11] <metalpres> i think im going to dump the amd64 copy and just use i386, this is just so much hassle, nothing works right on amd64
[09:11] <GMullen> Hello
[09:11] <jarle> uniq: not quite sure, the contain the letter "
[09:12] <krenx> rmn30: u know any good ftp client ?
[09:12] <rmn30> metalpres: particularly not closed source drivers for graphics cards i bet
[09:12] <rmn30> krenx : which ones have you used?
[09:12] <jarle> osh_: I think Direct Rendering should be running if you want to get some speed from you gfx-card..
[09:12] <GMullen> is there any other way to fix the resoultion other then in !fixres link
[09:12] <krenx> rmn30: flashfxp
[09:13] <krenx> for windows.
[09:13] <osh_> jarle: I think so too but I'm not sure that it works on this laptop. Or rather, it appears that I have to choose between suspend and direct rendering.
[09:14] <rmn30> krenx: try kbear, konqueror, gftp
[09:14] <uniq> jarle: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' - check /etc/environment and check the LANG= variable. To use UTF-8 set it to LANG=en_US.UTF-8 for english utf-8, LANG=nb_NO.UTF-8 for norwegian bokml.
[09:15] <jarle> osh_: I thought that you only had to make sure that the DRI module was loaded by X?
[09:15] <osh_> metalpres: my observation too. but I'm thinking of giving it another go soon again though. I haven't tried it in about  a year.
[09:16] <osh_> jarle: how do I do that? Isn't that automatic?
[09:17] <metalpres> i dont even see any performance boost using 64bit, there jsut isnt enough software written for 64bit to make the hassle worth it, and by the time it is worth using 64bit my 3700+ is going to be slow and useless...
[09:19] <jarle> osh_: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf make sure you have "Load    "dri"" under Section "Module"
[09:19] <noteventime> !knetworkmanager
[09:19] <ubotu> noteventime: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:19] <noteventime> !networkmanager
[09:19] <ubotu> [networkmanager]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[09:20] <osh_> jarle: That's what I thought. Still glxinfo sais that there's no direct rendering. :-(
[09:20] <jarle> uniq: is it better to use utf-8 than ISO?
[09:21] <jarle> osh_: then have a look at the log for X and see if it is loaded at startup or if there is some kind of problem..
[09:21] <osh_> jarle: Errors are marked EE aren't they?
[09:22] <uniq> well, if your files are all utf-8 i guess it is. I use ISO myself because all my files with  are ISO.
[09:22] <jarle> osh_: jeah... try grep dri /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:23] <osh_> jarle: Nope, no errors there and the dri appears to load without problem.
[09:24] <rmn30> bye
[09:25] <noteventime> is there any way to get knetworkmanager in breezy?'
[09:26] <noteventime> I'm using it in dapper and it is fantastic :D
[09:28] <jarle> How do I check if I have installed the source for the kernel I am running?
[09:28] <jarle> (not quite familiar with apt yet)
[09:28] <amel> HOW TO SETUP AUDIO DRIVER???11
[09:28] <noteventime> Take a look in adept :)
[09:29] <noteventime> amel, HOW DO I TURN OF CAPSLOCK :D
[09:29] <mornfall> amel: that's a joke right
[09:29] <mornfall> noteventime: you forgot !!1
[09:29] <mornfall> oneone
[09:29] <osh_> jarle: dpkg -l | grep kernel?
[09:29] <amel> I' first time in kubuntu
[09:29] <noteventime> :D np
[09:30] <noteventime> Are you sure your volume isn't turned down? :D
[09:30] <amel> Volume is ok
[09:31] <noteventime> Did you take a look in kmix
[09:31] <noteventime> maybe you've muted the master channel
[09:36] <justanotheruser> ehm, i have a problem with konqueror. Sometimes when i tried to download a file from a website that is php based, i get to ask to save the file download.php.
[09:36] <justanotheruser> Could this be kget related?
[09:37] <justanotheruser> for instance: http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Dead-Pixel-Tester-Download-28480.html
[09:38] <noteventime> I've had the same problem
[09:38] <noteventime> You need to associate konqueror with php files
[09:39] <justanotheruser> yeah if i could disable kget for downloads in konqueror then it be solved, but i've searched my ass off....
[09:39] <justanotheruser> *could
[09:40] <noteventime> I don't think you'll need to
[09:40] <krenx> Anyone knows if the newest Nvidia drivers support geforece4 ti4200 ?
[09:40] <osh_> the fglrx-files in the repos, are they the closed source ones or the open ones?
[09:40] <justanotheruser> damn, a rightclick on the systray.
[09:40] <justanotheruser> noteventime: yes disabling kget solved it here
[09:40] <ubuntu> hello
[09:40] <Gonella> hello
[09:40] <Gonella> Anybody there?
[09:41] <noteventime> yes
[09:41] <noteventime> :D
[09:42] <Gonella> Hi
[09:42] <jarle> I am running kernel 2.6.12, but I am unable to find the corresponding kernel-source??
[09:42] <Gonella> Im new here
[09:42] <justanotheruser> so, i sense this might be a bug that kget isn't well integrated in konqueror
[09:42] <ubijtsa> Gonella: new to IRC, Ubuntu, Linux or all of them? :)
[09:43] <Gonella> a little bit of them
[09:43] <ubijtsa> Gonella: okay, welcome anyways, hope you like it here :)
[09:43] <Gonella> New in ubuntu (1 month), new in linux (2 years) and new in the IRC (1 min)
[09:43] <Gonella> Thanks
[09:43] <Gonella> I try to learn more from Kubuntu
[09:44] <ubijtsa> Gonella: we try and help if there are questions, and there is the mailing lists as well
[09:44] <Gonella> Ok
[09:44] <Gonella> Thank you
[09:44] <ubijtsa> np
[09:44] <jpatrick> and forums
[09:44] <Gonella> I know it
[09:44] <Gonella> Im playing with kubuntu dapper Live Cd
[09:44] <Gonella> Im just trying
[09:44] <ubijtsa> jpatrick: I am sure the forums are useful, but I still believe they should be disconnected from the ML's
[09:46] <Gonella> Bye. thank you all
[09:46] <krenx> ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[09:46] <krenx>          installing.
[09:46] <krenx> how do i exit the X server? :)
[09:46] <ubijtsa> jarle: sometimes configuring INN can be a pita ;)
[09:47] <ubijtsa> krenx: c-a-f1, log in, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[09:47] <jarle> ubijtsa: configuring e-mail is just as demanding as setting up a news-reader..
[09:48] <krenx> ubijtsa, and how do i get back too linux again?
[09:48] <ubijtsa> jarle: a nntp client is easy, a r/w nntp server is a different matter
[09:48] <ubijtsa> krenx: /etc/init.d/kdm start
[09:48] <ubijtsa> prefixed by sudo probably
[09:49] <jarle> ubijtsa: no need to run a server to read news, leave the "hard" stuff to the pros :)
[09:50] <ubijtsa> jarle: I thought you ment Canonical to run a news.ubuntu.com instead of the mailing lists
[09:51] <nico8481> reminds me of my first steps with linux :) i was asking how to get my mail client to work, people explained me how to setup sendmail+fetchmail :-)
[09:51] <ubijtsa> *grin*
[09:51] <nico8481> or was it postfix? don't remember :p
[09:51] <osh_> www.epostmail.org <- now that's a cool concept. Not sure it's efficient, but it's sure cool.
[09:53] <noteventime> Is there any way to get knetwork-manager in breezy?
[09:53] <noteventime> knetworkmanager*
[09:55] <jpatrick> noteventime: not that I know of
[09:55] <noteventime> :(
[09:55] <noname> can anyone tell me how to verify if the kubuntu installed my sound driver correctly ( when i tried livecd there was sound )
[09:57] <noteventime> noname, try going into "system settings" from the kde menu (main menu)
[09:58] <noteventime> Then sound and multimedia -> button saying "test sound"
[09:58] <noname> i did , hear nothing . on the hardware it is set autodetect
[09:59] <crimsun> noname: pastebin: ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[10:00] <tmdx120> hell room. I have a quesion regarding editing X11 files.
[10:00] <krenx> hi, i would like to have help with installing nvidia gfx-driver, i get this:
[10:00] <krenx> No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; would you li
[10:00] <krenx>    ke the installer to attempt to download a kernel interface for your kernel f
[10:00] <krenx>    rom the NVIDIA ftp site (ftp://download.nvidia.com)? (Answer: Yes)
[10:00] <noname> crimsun : did not understand what u mean ?
[10:01] <crimsun> noname: I gave you a command enclosed in quotes. Paste that into a Konsole. Take the output from that command and paste it into the text entry box at http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:04] <noteventime> krenx, are you installing from apt?
[10:05] <noname> Crimsun : and what to do after that ?
[10:05] <brainbug> hello everybody
[10:05] <crimsun> noname: you tell me the url
[10:06] <krenx> noteventime: nope
[10:06] <noname> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/685618
[10:06] <noteventime> krenx, any reason?
[10:06] <noname> that's the url
[10:07] <krenx> noteventime: but i will now, thx for mention it :P
[10:07] <noteventime> krenx, np :)
[10:07] <krenx> Nvidia-glx ?
[10:07] <noteventime> yes
[10:07] <krenx> k
[10:07] <noteventime> or nvidia-glx-legacy if you gave pre GF3 card
[10:08] <krenx> no, i have a gf4 ti4200
[10:08] <noteventime> ok
[10:08] <krenx> are Nvidia-settings tool installed in K- menu ?
[10:10] <noteventime> krenx, I don't know. Why do you need it?
[10:12] <krenx> too change hz for different resulotions, vsync off for some games etc
[10:12] <noteventime> ok
[10:12] <noteventime> You can always create a link otherwise
[10:14] <noname> crimsun : did u see the url  ?
[10:15] <krenx> If i knew where the program is located
[10:15] <krenx> :P
[10:15] <Nomad411> Hi.. I'm thinking of trying Suse for a little while, does anyone have any warnings or recommendations as to what I'll miss?
[10:16] <noteventime> One CD :D
[10:16] <noteventime> And speed
[10:16] <crimsun> noname: no, I'm in a meeting atm. url?
[10:16] <Nomad411> speed, really?
[10:17] <krenx> I need to restart the computer too get OpenGL too work after installing nvidia drivers ?
[10:21] <noteventime> krenx, only XServer
[10:21] <noteventime> ctrl + alt + backspace
[10:21] <krenx> and then?
[10:21] <krenx> :)
[10:21] <florin-> Nomad411: u'll realy miss speed
[10:21] <noteventime> That restarts the XServer :D
[10:21] <noteventime> nothing more
[10:22] <florin-> suse is beutifull to look but realy slow
[10:22] <noteventime> Nomad411, I havn't tried suse for ages but I've heard it's a lot slower
[10:22] <gren> thx
[10:22] <gren> :)
[10:22] <noteventime> :) works?
[10:23] <Nomad411> I must have some buggy settings then, the one thing that irritates me with Kubuntu i sthat my machien crawls way too often.. Maybe I'll try a brand new install
[10:23] <krenx> dunno yet
[10:23] <noteventime> krenx, glxinfo | grep direct rendering
[10:24] <krenx> k
[10:26] <noteventime> krenx, glxinfo | grep direct\ rendering
[10:26] <noteventime> sorry :) forgot the \
[10:28] <krenx> k
[10:28] <krenx> brb
[10:29] <krenx> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:29] <krenx> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:29] <krenx> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:29] <krenx> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[10:30] <krenx> noteventime: doesnt seem to work
[10:31] <noteventime> hmm :/
[10:31] <krenx> what lib do i need
[10:31] <noteventime> Did you edit the xorg.conf?
[10:31] <krenx> no
[10:35] <krenx> noteventime: i dont even know what i shall edit, im in xorg.conf now
[10:36] <noteventime> krenx, Ok :D
[10:36] <noteventime> go down till you find something like driver "nv"
[10:36] <krenx> k
[10:36] <krenx> there.
[10:36] <noteventime> change it to driver "nvidia"
[10:37] <krenx> done
[10:37] <noteventime> save and restart the xserver
[10:37] <noteventime> and hope for the best
[10:37] <noteventime> if you land in the console
[10:37] <noteventime> just type irc
[10:37] <noteventime> and /connect irc.freenode.net
[10:40] <noteventime> !xgl
[10:40] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:41] <krenx> noteventime: nah, it doesnt work
[10:42] <noteventime> still the same error?
[10:42] <krenx> tell me again what i should type
[10:42] <krenx> in the terminal
[10:42] <krenx> =)
[10:42] <noteventime> to do what? ^^
[10:42] <krenx> check opengl
[10:42] <noteventime> ahh
[10:42] <noteventime> krenx, glxinfo | grep direct\ rendering
[10:43] <slow-motion> re
[10:43] <krenx> direct rendering: Yes
[10:43] <krenx> :P
[10:44] <noteventime> nice :)
[10:44] <krenx> thanks
[10:44] <noteventime> np
[10:45] <krenx> lol
[10:45] <tmdx120> hello again.
[10:45] <jpatrick> hey, why don't I get cookies?
[10:45] <tmdx120> Does anyone know how to edit a config file in kate?
[10:45] <noteventime> s
[10:46] <jpatrick> heh
[10:46] <noteventime> tdmx120, kdesu kate FILE
[10:46] <tmdx120> thankyou
[10:46] <noteventime> np
[10:47] <noteventime> Yay, cookie rain
[10:48] <ryanakca> hmmm.... cookies
[10:48] <krenx> damn, the game is running in slowmotion
[10:49] <krenx> quake2
[10:49] <noteventime> :(
[10:49] <noteventime> Are you using xgl?
[10:49] <krenx> xgl ?
[10:49] <krenx> :D
[10:49] <noteventime> If you dont know you arent using it
[10:50] <krenx> ok
[10:50] <krenx> but what is it ?
[10:50] <noteventime> OpenGL accelerated Xserver
[10:50] <krenx> a
[10:50] <noteventime> Lots od eyecandy
[10:50] <noteventime> !xgl
[10:50] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:51] <krenx> ok
[10:53] <krenx> anyone, how do i use the nvidia-settings tool?
[10:53] <noteventime> :D
[10:53] <noteventime> Take a look at the videos
[10:53] <krenx> what videos
[10:53] <krenx> :P
[10:54] <krenx> !nvidia
[10:54] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:58] <noteventime> kenx, http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:00] <krenx> forgot too install  linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[11:01] <krenx> brb
[11:02] <krenx> !nvidia
[11:02] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:03] <krenx> noteventime: gimme that url again please
[11:03] <krenx> :P
[11:03] <noteventime> ok
[11:03] <noteventime> http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:03] <noteventime> :D
[11:04] <krenx> and what do i need that for ?
[11:05] <stevekl> Does anyone know how to turn on the autocorrect feature in oppenoffice
[11:05] <stevekl> Like when you mispell a word, it underlines it?
[11:05] <stevekl> It's apparently not working for me
[11:06] <justanotheruser> oeps
[11:08] <noteventime> stevekl, you need to install a language pacl
[11:08] <noteventime> pack*
[11:08] <noteventime> krenx, You don't need it, it's just cool :D
[11:08] <stevekl> noteventime: openoffice.org-l10n-en-us is installed...do I need something else?
[11:08] <noteventime> I think so
[11:09] <noteventime> I'm not sure I'm using kword
[11:09] <stevekl> hm, I wonder if I should try kword
[11:11] <noteventime> stevekl, see that you get 1.5
[11:11] <noteventime> www.kubuntu.org <- instructions here
[11:12] <momo3> http://israel.275mb.com/index3.php
[11:18] <stevekl> So what IS everyone's favorite MSword clone?
[11:19] <stevekl> I'm writing a school paper on linux for the first time
[11:19] <HymnToLife> stevekl> nano
[11:20] <Seantater> I muxh prefer Open Office 2
[11:20] <Seantater> s/muxh/much
[11:20] <Seantater> There is Koffice too
[11:21] <stevekl> nano can't replace MS word sorry
[11:21] <Seantater> OO2 can, can it not?
[11:22] <HymnToLife> stevekl> nano owns you :p
[11:22] <saaida> my god whole day just installing linux :)
[11:22] <HymnToLife> well, I'm using word processors like twice a year, so OOo does the trick for me
[11:23] <saaida> finally i got to my sound driver problem but another thing came up
[11:23] <saaida> the sound output is too low
[11:24] <vge> saaida: what kmix says about your imput lvls?
[11:25] <vge> *output ^^
[11:32] <krenx> noteventime: one last time, gimme that opengl command :D
[11:33] <noteventime> krenx, glxinfo | grep direct\ rendering
[11:33] <noteventime> :D
[11:34] <krille> !ntfs
[11:34] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:36] <Seantater> krille: anything you need concerning NTFS?
[11:37] <krenx> Hi Seantater. do you by any chance know why opengl games runs in slowmotion ?
[11:37] <Seantater> krenx: do you have a sufficient video card?
[11:37] <Seantater> krenx: slow video cards, or lacking a video card might cause that
[11:38] <Seantater> krenx: along with it becoming a "slideshow"..
[11:38] <krenx> yea, i have a geforce4 ti4200
[11:39] <HymnToLife> krenx> with drivers installed ?
[11:39] <krenx> Yes.
[11:39] <krenx> otherwise i woudltnt be able to run opengl :P
[11:43] <saaida> my God. my mp3 play a little bit very very Fast "u know those funny fast talking"
[11:44] <kunjan> how do i recover a lost password for /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[11:44] <kunjan> ?
[11:46] <krenx> !nvidia
[11:46] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:46] <HymnToLife> kunjan> /msg nickserv help :)
[11:46] <kunjan> thanks HymnToLife
[11:47] <kunjan> HymnToLife: there is no option to recover or reset the pass
[11:49] <HymnToLife> ae you sure ?
[11:49] <kunjan> yup
[11:49] <kunjan> i did /msg nickserv help
[11:49] <HymnToLife> oh yeah indeed
[11:50] <HymnToLife> I guess you'll have to register another one
[11:50] <kunjan> sucks
[11:50] <kunjan> oh well
[11:50] <blindboy1runt> hi all
[11:50] <Seantater> hello
[11:50] <noteventime> 'ello
[11:50] <noteventime> !ntfs
[11:50] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:50] <blindboy1runt> i'm having a little problem installing an icon theme
[11:50] <kunjan_> thanks HymnToLife
[11:51] <blindboy1runt> I have downloaded one - but it doesn't seem to be understood by the icon installer
[11:55] <ciccio> hi there
[11:58] <saaida> does anyone knows how i can reset KMIX setting ?
[11:58] <blindboy1runt> never mind - worked it out - I was being dumb
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