[12:03] lol [12:03] maybe switch to the normal menu? [12:03] i hate that too, its rediculous [12:04] jeff_ yeah I've started just sshing in, running x11vnc and using that [12:05] lol uhh [12:05] what? [12:05] x11vnc is an app that bridges VNC to your current X session [12:06] whats VNC? === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === rraajj [n=raj@210.5.105.41] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] its like Remote Desktop [12:07] its what krfb uses [12:12] ok === macroron__ [n=ron@c-67-191-14-212.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _matthias [n=matthias@frn9-d933e744.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu === Snake__ [n=Snake@unaffiliated/snake/x-17964] has joined #kubuntu === _matthias [n=matthias@frn9-d933e744.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _cerberus [n=cerberus@wired-210-54-56-50.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [12:21] vnc sucks use freenx === macroron [n=ron@c-67-191-14-212.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@58.6.37.234] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu is now known as _tmhai_ === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.181] has joined #kubuntu === _tmhai_ [n=ubuntu@58.6.37.234] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === martynda [n=martynda@ip70-171-14-163.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === GeoKM [n=keith@ppp46-17.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === redstar73 [n=redstar7@87.219.169.38] has joined #kubuntu === Lurkan [n=agsm@dsl-201-128-14-246.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #kubuntu === nico [n=none@ip-62-235-55-40.dial.scarlet.be] has joined #kubuntu === poningru__ [n=poningru@ip68-226-0-76.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === puckman_ [n=puckman@dynamic-62-56-13-221.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === poningru__ is now known as poningru === Snake__ is now known as Snake[Away] === Mr_Grieves|U [n=dl@c-68-52-2-197.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === sfrieden [n=sfrieden@ip-83-99-25-115.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #kubuntu === winXperts [n=winXpert@ip70-171-63-240.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === frederick [n=frederic@ACaen-251-1-57-134.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === frederick is now known as ti_tux === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #kubuntu === wincide [n=WeReTheC@164.Red-83-33-168.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === Nomad411 is now known as Nomad411|Away === ti_tux [n=frederic@ACaen-251-1-57-134.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === wincide [n=WeReTheC@164.Red-83-33-168.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["AaaAaArrghh!"] === andrearojas [n=andrearo@201.248.73.109] has joined #kubuntu === andrearojas [n=andrearo@201.248.73.109] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === HnZeKtO_ [n=kay@85.137.89.15] has joined #kubuntu === ironman [n=ironman@h232n1fls32o829.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:07] woow [01:07] i think the kubuntu installation ruined my second hdd :O [01:08] anyone active? === Lurkan [n=agsm@dsl-201-128-14-246.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #kubuntu === HnZeKtO [n=kay@85.137.89.15] has joined #kubuntu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] Got the same pb yesterday... [01:15] The graphic install on 6.06 beta live crashed and I could'nt access my hdd anymore :-D [01:15] :-@ === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #kubuntu [01:19] damn === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:23] ironman, WhyM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta/PartitionTableCorruption (which is linked from http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/) [01:25] Thanks bimberi, it gave me a great oportunity to drop XP ;-) [01:25] So I just didn't fix the issue! [01:26] :D [01:26] WhyM: lol === johnflux [n=johnflux@spc2-brig4-0-0-cust62.asfd.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === mzinz [n=tyler@207-118-84-50.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:27] That's crazy... I even like kubuntu when it crashes my hdd... === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] crazy man.. btw dapper is beta.... === tmdx120 [n=tmdx120@pool-141-157-8-153.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:30] hello room! [01:30] howdy beef! [01:31] howdy chicken === milich [i=JavaUser@84-72-42-160.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === milich [i=JavaUser@84-72-42-160.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #kubuntu [] === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu === johnflux is now known as JohnFlux [01:35] I have a question about scroll wheel mouses. [01:36] ok [01:39] Hi Icer. I have a three button mouse with a scroll wheel. THe scroll wheel wont scroll. What can I do? === seth_ [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] actually it has 4 buttons (one on the thumb) [01:40] How does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf look like (under the section about your mouse) ? === ailean [n=Ailean@82-40-138-249.cable.ubr07.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === francolq_ [n=francolq@200-127-10-149.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" [01:43] Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" [01:43] Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" [01:43] ? [01:43] nothing under that. === Chris_Tucker [n=ChrisTuc@stjhnf01-23-142163031227.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:44] http://pastebin.com/684061 [01:45] my conf [01:45] hmm [01:45] anyone? [01:46] Just your wheel that won't work ? === francolq_ [n=francolq@200-127-10-149.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu [01:46] Shouldn't kubuntu be able to read NTFS from the beginning? [01:46] everything the same except "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Buttons" "5" and Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" [01:46] why-- yes just the scroll wheel wont work. [01:47] tmdx120, WhyM ? :( [01:47] if you count the wheel and thumb it actually has 5 buttons. === arafat [n=arafat@Rb167.r.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:47] Lol? [01:47] ? === churu [n=churu@121-251-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu === churu [n=churu@121-251-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:48] Bah === seth_ is now known as seth [01:48] so should I add ZaxisMapping 4 5? [01:49] ?? [01:49] it's up to you [01:50] I will give it a shot. Thanks [01:50] I don't understand... you already have it in your xorg.conf no? [01:51] nop sorry [01:51] Yes you should try that === ailean [n=Ailean@82-40-138-249.cable.ubr07.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu [] [01:56] Talking about mice... why do I have 3 "InputDevice" sections about some Wacom stuff I don't have... [01:56] When I installed kubunto.. I just choosed to edit the partition-table for hda... Why isn't there anything in hdb then!? === mark--- [n=mark@c-67-161-24-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === __mikem [n=michael@201-106.124-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === idiotbs [n=frank@p54B27537.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === idiotbs [n=frank@p54B27537.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:02] <__mikem> Hey, when I go to display options, I can't get screen resolutions higher than 1024x768 but I am capable of runing at 1280x1024 in gnome, is there a config file I could modify to fix this problem, if so, just tell me where it is [02:03] __mikem : /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:04] <__mikem> ok, one more thing, why is it that I can run at high resolutions in gnome and not in kde, knowing this will help when modifying the file [02:05] Do you have 1280x1024 in your "Screen" section? [02:05] <__mikem> hold on === visik7 [n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] <__mikem> nope [02:07] <__mikem> What depth does it run at by default [02:07] <__mikem> nvm === Chris_Tucker [n=ChrisTuc@stjhnf01-22-142163031157.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:07] <__mikem> defaultdepth duh [02:07] Ok so just add it ("1280x1024") for each mode. [02:08] 24 I think [02:08] <__mikem> just add , "1280x1024" to the end the modes line === nalioth is now known as noirequus [02:08] <__mikem> right? === GeoKM [n=keith@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:09] yep, then restart x and set your screen resolution in kde [02:09] That should work [02:09] <__mikem> ok, by the way, right now I am in gnome, will that make a difference [02:10] It just tells xorg your screen is able to use 1280x1024 [02:10] <__mikem> yes, sorry, I am still a bit new to linux [02:10] So am I ;-) [02:11] <__mikem> your ahead of me lol [02:11] <__mikem> brb === WhyM [n=ym@252.169.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [02:18] hmm === WhyM [n=ym@252.169.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:22] is there a command line way to list ALL debian packages that are installed? [02:23] dpkg -l [02:23] eek [02:23] ok is there an option for that that makes it just the package name? === Terminus- [n=justin@210.213.129.51] has joined #kubuntu [02:24] dpkg -l |awk '{ print $2 }' [02:24] wait... crimsun ... ive seen that before... have you ever been to #linuxhelp on undernet? [02:24] the name is what ive seen [02:25] I tend to avoid undernet like the plague these days [02:25] have you ever been though? [02:25] about six years ago, yes [02:25] ok not the same crimsun then.. i was assisted by a crimsun there about a year ago === sco_ [n=sco@port-87-234-68-110.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu [02:28] crimsun, since you got that far, think theres a way to make it jumble all those lines into just package names seperated by spaces not lines? :P im not good at scripting yet [02:29] i think it'll probably use sed or something [02:30] perl or ruby would be faster [02:31] hi crimsun :) [02:31] Hi all [02:31] I need /usr/include/GL/gl.h to compile a program [02:31] ubotu the bot says it's in libgl1-mesa-dev but I have that installed [02:31] crimsun, got an example? :P [02:31] I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, JohnFlux [02:31] hi dutch [02:31] Chris_Tucker: Google dose [02:31] does^ [02:32] JohnFlux: no, libgl1-mesa-dev [02:32] JohnFlux: install apt-file and search with it :) [02:32] are you _sure_ you have it? [02:32] what would i enter my search as ..? "how to convert new lines to spaces with perl"? [02:32] crimsun: libgl1-mesa-dev is already the newest version. [02:32] good, now install mesa-common-dev [02:32] crimsun: do I do this even if I have the nvidia drivers? [02:33] crimsun: don't they have their own gl or something confusing? [02:33] that's their business, and yes, they do [02:33] mesa-common-dev is already the newest version. [02:33] ls -l /usr/include/GL/gl.h [02:33] this is 64bit debian [02:33] uh [02:33] kubuntu sorry [02:33] ls: /usr/include/GL/gl.h: No such file or directory [02:33] I have the glu.h etc tehre [02:33] there [02:34] sudo apt-get --reinstall install mesa-common-dev [02:34] did you install the Nvidia drivers from their Web site, or are you using Ubuntu's packaging? [02:34] that worked === JohnFlux hugs crimsun [02:34] crimsun: they ubuntu ones in restricted [02:34] s/they/the/ [02:34] hmph. === bge [n=benoy@59.184.155.250] has joined #kubuntu === Pupeno_ [n=Pupeno@80-102-119-127.bcn1.adsl.uni2.es] has joined #kubuntu === \etc\bin [n=elmer@203.177.56.98] has joined #kubuntu [02:45] How can I make Gnome apps look 'goodunder kde? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu === noirequus is now known as nalioth === \etc\bin [n=elmer@58.71.13.194] has joined #kubuntu === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.181] has joined #kubuntu [02:52] WhyM: settings>appearanxws&themes>gtk styles&fonts ... choose to use your kde themes and fonts [02:52] *appearances [02:53] Thanks, but that's already the case... :-( === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu === john_G [n=john@host81-159-43-187.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has left #kubuntu ["away"] === PoT [n=pot@adsl-ull-57-103.51-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu === yanis [n=yanis@88.218.24.182] has joined #kubuntu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #kubuntu === dutch [n=dutch@cpe-065-190-182-028.nc.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === regeya [n=shane@dialup-4.159.59.195.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu === DarkShock [n=shock@ts1-125.f1431.ts.globetrotter.net] has joined #kubuntu === Snake[Away] is now known as Snake__ === Terminus- [n=justin@210.213.129.51] has joined #kubuntu [03:11] anybody know how to make Konqueror in Kubuntu open tar.gz, tar.bz2, .zip using their kioslave and not Ark ? [03:15] DarkShock: check the file associations [03:15] apokryphos: I checked that [03:16] apokryphos: I selected to use the embeded viewer, but it doesn't work, and removing Ark from the list doesn't work either [03:16] I checked and both tar:/ and zip:/ ioslaves are present and functional [03:17] only the file association doesn't work === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #kubuntu === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.181] has joined #kubuntu === tarmath [n=tarmath@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp3497027.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === ablyss [n=ablyss@71.81.22.108] has joined #kubuntu === ablyss [n=ablyss@71.81.22.108] has joined #kubuntu === swedish [n=swedish@c-67-161-190-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:40] question: you know when you mouse-over a document in KDE, it shows the little preview of the document, is there a way to enlarge that? [03:40] swedish: hmmm I don't think so [03:41] but u do know what im talking about right === theine [n=theine@83.72.197.119.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #kubuntu [03:41] the preview in the tooltip right ? [03:42] i wonder what to google "enlarge kda file preview" [03:42] like when you just mouse over, like if its a txt file it shows a preview of whats in it [03:42] and it also has like file size, last modified, and what not === Seantater [n=sean@cpe-069-132-052-158.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:42] yup, that's the tooltip I'm refering to [03:42] ok === Hideaki [n=Hideaki@c-71-196-112-210.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === idiotbs|away_ [n=frank@p54B271AC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === idiotbs|away_ [n=frank@p54B271AC.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #kubuntu === WhyM [n=ym@252.169.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === Search4Lancer__ [n=redphoen@ip155.252.23.209.suscom.net] has joined #kubuntu === httpdss [n=kenny@r201-217-181-72.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #kubuntu === gekido [n=lee@68-114-154-118.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === PoT [n=pot@adsl-ull-42-14.51-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu === jjesse [n=jjesse@c-67-172-111-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === \etc\bin [n=elmer@203.177.56.98] has joined #kubuntu [04:07] <\etc\bin> hi there all === ablyss [n=ablyss@71.81.22.108] has joined #kubuntu === _thiago [n=thiago@20150169016.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === spoopithy [n=p@67-22-85-162.albyny.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === michael [n=michael@201-106.124-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === orangey [n=orangey@toronto-HSE-ppp4072981.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === me2win [n=me2win@adsl-69-152-238-21.dsl.snantx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === maurice [n=maurice@c-24-5-218-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === maurice is now known as MrITR === MrITR is now known as momkiv === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu === momkiv [n=maurice@c-24-5-218-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu === Search4Lancer__ is now known as Search4Lancer === jobezone [n=eduardo@85.139.120.69] has joined #kubuntu === CheeseBurgerMan [n=bigk@24-247-185-68.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === prospero2005 [n=prospero@cpe-67-11-206-248.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:55] who here knows what the default kubuntu theme is? [04:55] Or, can anyone recommend a good theme [04:55] prospero2005: Which version of Kubuntu? [04:55] 3.5 [04:55] prospero2005: polyester is quite nice [04:56] I tried to install lipstick but it said it couldn't find the paths for the X libraries I think [04:56] prospero2005: apt-cache search kwin list teh ones already packaged for kubuntu [04:56] !xlibs [04:56] Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee [04:56] !xincludes [04:56] When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev xlibs-static-dev x-window-system-dev [04:56] prospero2005: ^ === admrl [n=admrl@amarok/artist/admrl] has joined #kubuntu [04:59] I'm trying it now. How do you know that? [04:59] that solved it. [05:00] Now, qt headers and libraries not found [05:00] qt3-dev-tolls? [05:00] prospero2005: kde-devel is the easiest package to install after that [05:01] prospero2005: grab kdelibs4-dev [05:01] What do you do for a living there hobbes? [05:02] NOw that I've got dapper up, I'm seriously considering taking a stab at XGL [05:02] prospero2005: who, me? [05:02] Got dual monitors though on separate cards [05:02] ya, you [05:03] oh. if you use tab completion, you dont generally get teh nick wrong [05:03] i'm at uni, and also work as a check out chick. [05:03] uni? [05:03] university [05:03] You sound like a system admin [05:03] which university? [05:04] one in sydney [05:04] the particular package you wan t is libqt3-mt-dev [05:04] Australia. I'll probably never make it down under. Probably nice though === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #kubuntu [05:06] Do you know where I go to change themes in 3.5? [05:07] prospero2005: system settings, apperance [05:07] *appearance [05:07] nvm got it. styles [05:07] you can use colours from one style, and the style from anotehr, you know. kinda neat :D === vblanton [n=vblanton@70-41-158-92.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:10] with the default kde theme the icons were nice and big [05:11] SInce I've switched themes, they all got a lot smaller. I'd like to get the default back.... hmm [05:11] prospero2005: IIRC it's Settings > Appearence > Desktop > Icons [05:12] Oh well, I'm wrong. Try Settings > Appearence > Icons. ;) [05:12] breezy/dapper seem to be missing opengl man pages which were in warty/hoary. Things like glxinfo and glViewport. Anyone know why? === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@c-67-167-238-76.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === TheUni [n=cory@c-24-30-32-8.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === vblanton [n=vblanton@70-41-158-92.cust.wildblue.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === narg [n=narg@dsl-63-173-190-179.tcq.net] has joined #kubuntu === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@24.84.47.187] has joined #kubuntu === Lurkan [n=agsm@dsl-201-128-14-246.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #kubuntu === admrl_ [n=admrl@71-10-134-229.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === gyrate [n=mike@69.0.12.249] has joined #kubuntu [05:36] anyone know where flashplayer-mozilla went? [05:37] away. [05:38] so theres only the gpl version now? [05:38] I asked for its removal from the archive about two months ago, since it illegally distributes in binary form the plugin from our repo. [05:38] macromedia's eula specifically forbids that. [05:38] no, there's flashplugin-nonfree [05:39] which has been and is the preferred package for using macromedia's binary-only Flash plugin [05:39] make sure you update first if you're running Dapper [05:39] apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ? [05:39] yes [05:40] it doesnt seem to exist for me [05:40] do you have multiverse enabled? [05:40] yup [05:40] i think so [05:40] then you probably don't :) [05:40] .me checks [05:41] be sure you aren't mistaking breezy-backports/breezy-updates for breezy [05:41] i have universe [05:41] it's not in universe, it's in multiverse [05:41] !info flashplugin-nonfree [05:41] i dont see multiverse in the default sources list [05:41] flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB [05:41] are you using breezy or dapper? [05:42] hmm. let me check [05:42] lsb_release -r [05:42] this is my first install [05:42] 5.10 [05:42] breezy [05:42] !repos [05:42] To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource [05:43] ok, thanks [05:45] ok, i see [05:45] multiverse isnt listed in the default sources.list [05:45] and this is my first debain based distro, so i barely know what im doing ;) [05:46] What other distros have you used? [05:47] gentoo, redhat, suse [05:47] you can also mess with the sources.list file graphically. In system->Administration there's an option I think (software sources?) [05:47] yeah, i have this adept tool [05:47] looks liek a kde app === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #kubuntu [05:49] nevermind, this is #kubuntu! :D [05:50] hehe, you can mess with it graphically in Kubuntu too. ;) [05:50] jobezone: you can open it in kate, and tehn just copy and paste as you like...that's fairly graphical... [05:51] im using vi [05:51] sure [05:51] but my pointer was specific to gnome. [05:51] Yep. :) [05:52] gyrate: not Emacs? === jobezone tries to start a flame fest === digichrome [n=csink@157.56.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee sets jobezone on fire === CheeseBurgerMan grabs the fire extiguisher and whispers "vi" === Hobbsee warms herself by the nice flames :P [05:53] ive been using linux for abotu 7 years now, and i have never even typed emacs on a command line ;) [05:53] gyrate: neither [05:53] having said that, i think vi sucks too [05:53] lol === CheeseBurgerMan uses vi. :) [05:53] but its everywhere, so i deal with it [05:54] i know just enough to get by [05:54] Me too. I can type, save, and quit once I get into it. :P [05:54] What else to I need to know? :) [05:54] :)) [05:54] sometimes i wish i knew copy/paste [05:55] but im always too lazy to look it up [05:55] gyrate: ctrl+c and ctrl+v? [05:55] sometimes it's shift+insert for kde apps [05:55] that doesnt work in vi [05:55] pity [05:55] vu has 'yank' and something else [05:56] err, vi [05:56] whatever the opposite of yank is i guess [05:56] push? [05:56] ;) === thunderbolt [n=ryan@69-170-83-197.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:57] http://www.tech-recipes.com/unix_tips219.html [05:57] im feeling less lazy today [06:00] why is it so quiet in here? [06:01] Well, I'm doing proofs. [06:01] its scary for a channel with this many people to be so quiet === thunderbolt shrugs [06:02] I was watching a starwars fanflick. [06:02] seriously, we're all using a distribution that works, so...maybe there's no need to talk about it. *wink* === CheeseBurgerMan is browsing drupal modules. :P [06:02] lol [06:02] haha, good point === mustard5 [n=mustard5@106.a.001.sop.iprimus.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [06:02] well, it working for me so far [06:03] It's worked for me...once I changed a few things... ;) [06:03] i had the same gentoo install for over 2 years, but i got sick of fixing things [06:04] I've had this install since flight 5 came out, and I've almost stopped adding programs and changing how it looks. :P [06:05] i really hate this 'system settings' thing though [06:05] wheres the kde control center? [06:05] kcontrol [06:05] ah, thanks [06:05] That's the 2nd thing I do after installing. :) === humbolt [n=elias@63.130.184.155] has joined #kubuntu [06:06] much better [06:08] this is actually faster than my gentoo install [06:08] i wonder why [06:09] gyrate: well, it finished installing *hours* before your gentoo isntall would have, so you're already way in front :P === Tuxutug [n=daniel@dsl14-153.express.oricom.ca] has joined #kubuntu [06:09] lol [06:09] don't you mean "days"? ;) [06:09] yeah yeah [06:10] oh yes [06:10] I love how my battery is losing charge === Snake__ is now known as Snake[Sleep] [06:10] yet my laptop is plugged in === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #kubuntu [06:11] bonsoir [06:11] Search4Lancer: does it show you that in klaptop or kpowersave? === Hobbsee pokes Kyral === C-O-L-T [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu [06:12] hmm, i cant find ntpd [06:12] i found ntp, but it doesnt install a daemon [06:13] oh, i found it [06:13] ntp-simple [06:15] ok, im off to bed [06:15] seeya [06:16] Hobbsee - klaptop [06:16] Search4Lancer: breezy or dapper? === Snake[Sleep] [n=Snake@unaffiliated/snake/x-17964] has joined #kubuntu [06:17] dapper [06:19] Search4Lancer: try kpowersave :P [06:19] it's *stacks* better than klaptop === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@3e44ae30.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #kubuntu [06:25] Hobbsee - it shows the same charge [06:26] Search4Lancer: true...but it's less buggy, and has nice suspend to disk and suspend to ram capabilities [06:26] I don't trust suspension one bit.... nor do I really need to suspend, as I am always plugged in [06:27] And they have an x86_64 RPM which I can make into an amd64 deb. :) === mendred [n=mendred@59.92.96.54] has joined #kubuntu === poningru [n=poningru@ip68-226-0-76.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:39] ah ok === bge [n=benoy@www1.gt-india.com] has joined #kubuntu === bge [n=benoy@www1.gt-india.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _JP [n=jpn@ext123.almare.com] has joined #kubuntu === kubuntutaotao [n=ttkubunt@61.51.248.4] has joined #kubuntu === _radikal [n=radikal@ip24-254-224-202.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #kubuntu === prower [n=prower@wiley-457-30348.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:15] Hello everyone :> A quick question...does the vanilla i386 kernel have pre-emption enabled? [07:17] in dapper, you mean? === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #kubuntu [07:17] Oh, no...breezy, I just installed it [07:18] breezy doesn't have preempt enabled at all by default for any kernels [07:18] you can confirm with ``uname -a'' [07:18] Oh, I see :/ That's too bad, I need to find a decent guide on building a custom kernel [07:19] desktop kernels in dapper have it enabled by default; server kernels have it disabled [07:20] Hmm...so if I copy the config that was used to compile the vanilla kernel over and edit it just to enable pre-emption, would installing that work? === Petecakes [i=Pete@unaffiliated/petecakes] has joined #kubuntu === twosouls82 [n=twosouls@82.74.46.100] has joined #kubuntu === nalioth is now known as nalioth_zZz === noiesmo [n=noiesmo@CPE-143-238-150-57.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu === Emess [n=Emess@CPE-60-230-218-26.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu === ports- [n=ankur@student184-239.wr.siue.edu] has joined #kubuntu [08:16] whats a good p2p app for kubuntu === weka [n=weka@ip-210-185-8-78.internet.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu [08:19] ports-, you could use frostwire not a ubuntu package just download and away you go does need java [08:20] noiesmo: any others? [08:21] ports-, not sure the only other thing i use is ktorrent or bittornado but they need a .torrent file to work === _matt [n=matt@222-152-189-2.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu [08:21] right [08:21] <_matt> hi [08:22] <_matt> anyone like halo2 [08:22] _matt, does it run on linux [08:22] <_matt> wine [08:22] _matt, if not no [08:23] <_matt> oh so you are interested because it does run on linux. [08:24] <_matt> anyone else annoyed that firefox 1.5 doesn't come with ubuntu? [08:24] _matt, no not really thought it might have been ported to linux and that be ok but otherwise its just a M$ game [08:26] _matt: it does [08:26] !+firefox1.5 [08:26] You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion [08:26] and it's in the dapper repos === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FFB3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee uses the mozilla binaries anyway - they're faster [08:26] <_matt> is dapper out yet? [08:27] not until 1 june [08:27] <_matt> but you can use the repositries already? [08:28] yes [08:28] have been able to since a couple of weeks after breezy was released [08:30] <_matt> well I've only been using linux for about two months at home, but really like ubuntu, I started with gnome but then decided I liked KDE a lot more [08:31] yay! === jcallanan [n=jcallana@cpe-68-173-211-99.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:31] <_matt> I gave up on windows after having to put up with that dam product activation? [08:31] <_matt> oh and spyware infestations every month [08:32] urgh yeah [08:32] they're always fun [08:32] <_matt> to many reinstallations of windows [08:33] /dns ports- [08:34] <_matt> does kde have a separate file manager or just konqueror? === elio_ [n=elio@82.52.153.3] has joined #kubuntu [08:35] _matt: konqueror, yes [08:37] <_matt> anyone here know much about ssh tunnels [08:38] _matt: you can also install krusader (a dedicated file manager) [08:39] <_matt> really, I think that would be better for me as I prefer firefox as a web browser. [08:39] <_matt> i shall install it now === elio_ [n=elio@82.52.153.3] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Nakkel^ [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu === Paavo [i=jplauril@ZYKMMLI.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #kubuntu === chavo [n=chavo@68.235.250.234] has joined #kubuntu === Snake[Sleep] [n=Snake@unaffiliated/snake/x-17964] has joined #kubuntu === Nakkel^ [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu === GMullen [n=gmullen2@c-67-188-165-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === JakubS [n=qba@azk210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [08:49] can anyone help with a start up problem? [08:51] GMullen: just ask away :) [08:52] ok [08:52] i installed from the live DVD [08:52] and tried to boot [08:52] and xserver hung ad a gray screen [08:53] then i booted into recovery [08:53] apt-get upgrade [08:53] and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [08:53] and set it to all the recomemed [08:54] still the same problem if i try to boot normealy [08:54] GMullen: look at /var/log/xorg.log (look for lines starting with (EE) ) [08:56] GMullen, did you try vesa for display drivers and not nv or ati pending which card you have [08:56] no i didn't even think of that [08:57] GMullen, vesa should alsways work fingers crossed then you could update repos etc and add restricted modules to suite your card [08:57] vesa always works :P [08:57] GMullen, even update kernel etc [08:58] ok i'm still a relitive noob [08:58] i have no idea what you said [08:58] i know how to set it to vesa [08:58] at least you try [08:58] but then after that [08:58] ok [08:58] GMullen, go defaults exept vesa then youll have gui [08:58] ok i'll try that [08:59] hopefuly i'll be back with konversation [08:59] GMullen, when you havegrey screen do you have mouse cursor [08:59] thx noiesmo [08:59] yes [08:59] and it moves [08:59] np :) [08:59] but i cant ctrl alt f* [08:59] cool then it should just be the drivers for video card [08:59] kk [08:59] brb [09:01] robotgeek, hopefully his keyboard works he did say before he left he couldnt ctrl alt f* === Phazeman [n=mishka@mandriva/channel-support/Phazeman] has joined #kubuntu [09:02] noiesmo: hmm, that's always messy (i've had hell once with sun keyboards on debian) [09:02] heh === _greg [n=greg@c-67-188-165-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee waves to Phazeman === GMullen [n=greg@c-67-188-165-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:04] thx noiesmo [09:04] i'm in [09:04] coool [09:04] now what do i need to do next [09:05] are you on kde [09:05] yes [09:06] my friend is trying to get me onto gnome [09:06] go K system then open adept from here you can install extra packaages etc [09:06] kde rocks [09:06] ok adept is open [09:07] if he was using Dapper, he could have use "Add/Remove programs" also :) [09:07] this screen resolution is so damn small [09:07] !fixres [09:07] fixres is, like, Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto [09:07] brb [09:09] thx [09:09] can i use this even thow i'm in kubuntu with KDM not GMD [09:09] GDM* === Mater [n=pablo@85-54-136-232.mad5.adsl.uni2.es] has joined #kubuntu === atiro [n=atiro@69.146.82.97] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [n=nicolas@ruby.lirmm.fr] has joined #kubuntu === larrywells [n=LarrySW@ip68-5-250-101.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === dom [n=dom@xdsl-6067.walbrzych.dialog.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu === puckman [n=puckman@dynamic-62-56-13-221.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [09:16] <_matt> is it possible to share a printer connected to a windows machine with a unbuntu workstation? [09:17] _matt: yes, you need samba === XVampireX [n=sergey@85-64-145-215.barak-online.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:19] <_matt> I believe samba is part of the default ubuntu install [09:19] yes, it should be... [09:19] <_matt> I can access folders on the windows machine [09:20] I'd google for a good howto, something like "samba printer" [09:20] <_matt> ok [09:22] look on the wiki === kubuntutaotao [n=ttkubunt@61.49.167.49] has joined #kubuntu [09:23] hey there Hobbsee [09:23] sorry was distracted [09:23] Phazeman: what version of kde does mandriva have? i'm curious [09:23] as a matter of fact, the last time i used mandriva was a year ago.... i use the Xbuntu way now [09:24] oh ok... [09:24] :) === Hobbsee saw the hostmask, you see [09:24] ahhh === weka [n=weka@ip-210-185-3-28.internet.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu [09:24] it was from the old good days of OP'ing there [09:24] ah yes [09:25] after they added the next line to the topic: "No support for other OSes" i kinda quit completely [09:25] not that i was active lately [09:25] i mean, they support mandriva, and ONLY mandriva [09:25] i can't understand that [09:26] Phazeman: in #mandriva? [09:26] robotgeek: yes [09:26] Support for Mandriva only, not other distro's or OS's [09:26] this is the exact line [09:27] Phazeman: i wouldn't know a thing if you asked me about mandriva, to be honest. it might seem pretty offtopic to ask a #mandriva question in #kubuntu :P, unless it was generic enough [09:27] most of the times, people ask generic questions [09:27] heh [09:28] and when someone does, and he's not using mandriva - he won't get help (usually() === weka [n=weka@ip-210-185-3-28.internet.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu === grimse [n=grimse@p5481F329.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === bge [n=benoy@www1.gt-india.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:37]