[12:03] uniq: you might try #kubuntu-devel [12:05] uniq:is it in main? [12:06] it's a motu package in universe. and it's on the priority list https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=unmetdeps&orderby=-datecreated&search=Search [12:06] uniq: I can review it for you [12:06] freeflying-ibook: no, it's on dholbacks list of unmet deps packages. very MOTU imho. [12:07] well, the patch adds a >, not much to review. But sure. === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-124-69.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@84.Red-83-55-199.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] heylo [12:40] hi zul [12:41] hey LaserJock === poningru__ [n=poningru@ip68-226-0-76.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] hi, I've a bug in malone, and right now preparing the bug report for upstream bts. Upstream told me to keep him up to date [01:06] Now I'm ponder if it's okay to create a lauchpad account for upstream (asking upstream before of course) and subscribe this account to bugs that are upstream bugs. [01:07] this would keep upstream automaticly informed in case more info gets added to malone. [01:08] Or are there other ways better achieve this? [01:08] yup [01:08] get upstream to make their own account ;) [01:08] then you can subscribe them to those bugs [01:08] do upstream have a bts ? [01:09] lifeless: okay is there a naming conventions like -upstream or -devel [01:09] allee: no, accounts are for *people* [01:09] lifeless: yes KDE bts (and I add a lauchpad link when KDE bts bug is filed) [01:10] allee: what sort of updates was he/she asking for ? [01:11] lifeless: we were hunting https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/digikam/+bug/34462 on #digikam channel [01:11] Malone bug 34462 in digikam "Digikam deletes EXIFs when auto-rotating on import" [Major,Confirmed] [01:11] lifeless: yeah, but upstream are several people. 3-5 in this case [01:11] creating an account for a list is wrong [01:11] lifeless: all digikam bugs in KDE bts are send to digikam-devel ml [01:12] allee: so, when you file it upstream, they will get mail. [01:12] allee: I'm trying to understand what 'upstream' want to happen here [01:12] then I can advise how to make malone do that [01:13] lifeless: upstream told me: keep me inform, send debug output etc [01:13] allee: once its filed upstream, you should be doing that in the upstream bts though [01:13] allee: thats what *upstream* means. [01:13] hi all === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:13] lifeless: I'll do this in KDE bts. But what happens when other see the malone bug and add infos to the malone bug, then [01:14] allee: the bug is tagged upstream. So other know to go to the upstream bts. [01:14] a) I've to tell them please use upstream bts or b) forward it myself [01:14] checking ... [01:14] allee: there are two choices here. you can use the upstream bts, or malone, as this bug gets fixed. [01:15] if you use malone, and upstream want to be involved, then they need to use malone [01:15] given that you are saying this *is an upstream bug*, its entirely appropriate that you use the upstream bug tracker. [01:16] malones upstream bug watch will synchronise data from the kde bts eventually, though it doesn't right now. === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] heh, develish: for marked-as-upstream don't allow additional comments, redirect to upstream bug URL instead ;) [01:18] :0 [01:19] hmm, digikam product isn't linked tothe source package === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] allee: is it still stable in dapper ? [01:21] is a product created automaticly? I vaguely remember that I started long ago to add it but when bazarr came into play aborted === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.127.102.50] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:21] you created the product [01:21] its a little stale, just updating it [01:21] lifeless: for cameras without gravity sensor, yes. [01:21] is it still the stable release that we package in dapper ? [01:22] yes [01:22] lifeless: but there's 0.8.2-beta1 that better than 0.8.1 (I've a half finished UVF for it + digikamimageplugins later) [01:24] UVF not finished because I could convience upstream to look into the exif-list bug (fixed in devel trunk already, for of future 0.9 release) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] 41678 [01:30] #41678 [01:34] bug 41678 [01:34] Malone bug 41678 in ispellcat "Please sync with Debian unstable" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41678 [01:35] heh === seth_ [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] crimsun [01:42] jmg: hi [01:42] oh sweet, irssi is sponsoring SoC projects [01:43] dont know if i should bother you with alsa stuff [01:43] jmg: I'll be in a much more suitable timeframe to look at alsa stuff in an hour [01:43] ok === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0008.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0008.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] hi Kyral === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] heylo === slomo__ [n=slomo@p5486FA3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] hi [03:11] how is it going ajmitch? [03:11] good, how are you? [03:11] good === Surak [n=Surak@201009098083.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Surak [n=Surak@201009098083.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] if network-manager is interfering (i think) with my bootup, wheres the right place to file a bug? [03:23] /etc/init.d/networking start after bootup will fix the problem. hmm === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] ajmitch: ping [03:51] yes? any reviews must wait, i'm at work [03:52] ajmitch: not reviews, heh, can I ask for sync from sid now [03:53] you can, but why ask me? [03:55] ajmitch: thanks, just wanna confirm from you that can ask for now. === farruinn [n=farruinn@user-uinj02j.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Se7h [n=MUAHAHAH@bl4-87-223.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] Heya gang [04:38] hi === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] Hello dolson [04:40] hi all [04:40] hello dolson [04:40] hi zakame [04:40] zakame: I got a job today, did you hear? :D [04:41] dolson: Cool, congrats :-) [04:41] dolson: w00t! :D [04:41] dolson: good for you, now its my turn to find a job :) [04:41] bddebian: I thought you were here earlier when I said it :D === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] zakame: yeah, I'm a Perl developer starting Monday. I get to install Ubuntu on my workstation. And now I'm looking for a good book on learning Perl [04:42] dolson: I sorta was but I was swamped at work so I didn't say anything :( [04:42] dolson: now, double w00t! I'm doing Perl too... I have the Llama, second ed [04:42] dolson: the ora.com cookbook & learning perl are good [04:42] bddebian: ;) it's all good. I hope that I can pull it off [04:42] crimsun: thanks bro, I'll check out the ora one (I already bookmarked Learning Perl) [04:43] zakame: it seems you and I are triggering the same soyuz bug with '.' ;) [04:43] Who reviews the MOTU UVF requests? [04:43] crimsun: looks like it [04:44] bddebian: the uvfe team (sire,slom,dholb) [04:44] a workaround would be to update my key's UIDs, right? add a "Zak Elep" without the B... === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:44] zakame: just make sure your display name and your changeslist name both have no '.' [04:44] zakame: that's the workaround that cprov recommended to me [04:45] ah, ok [04:45] like I have to use "Daniel T Chen" instead of "Daniel T. Chen" [04:45] oh no, it's Beginning Perl that I bookmarked [04:45] but anyhow, celso's already doing the fix :D [04:46] yeah [04:53] Hmm, to attempt to look at bugs at this hour or not... === farruinn [n=farruinn@user-uinj02j.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:14] Gnight gang === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@70.55.132.27] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:38] how does Yelp work, exactly? if I install something like postgresql-doc-8.1 does it show up docs in Yelp, or do I have to browse to the files and such? [06:41] it's unlikely that pgsql's docs will show up in yelp by default, since yelp is gnome-centric [06:41] you'll more than likely need to use info, man, and $PAGER in /usr/share/doc/postgresql-doc-8.1 [06:43] oh, there it is [06:43] I just tried it and it does show up [06:43] ah, excellent. [06:43] yeah, I'm impressed :D [06:44] go to System > Help > System Documentation to launch Yelp, then go to Applications > Programming, and it lists it there. Pretty slick stuff [06:44] cool [06:45] ooh, Yelp has bookmarks too. I love this. === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.127.101.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XhyldazhK [n=xhyldazh@dsl-200-95-8-65.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:54] hi all [06:54] i have... kind of a request... [06:55] i'm a chicken scheme user, but i've found that chicken in dapper drake is 1.63, that is ancient (2004 or earlier) [06:55] there is a chicen source .deb in debian unstable, currently i'm compiling it [06:56] please update chicken, it shouldn't be very hard [06:56] the one in debian unstable is latest one, 2.3 [06:56] we're two months past upstream version freeze. [06:56] oops [06:56] sorry... [06:56] XhyldazhK: that means, that unless there is a serious bug in chicken, we'd rather not update it [06:56] because we'll run the risk of *adding* bugs. [06:57] we can make exceptions, there is a process. [06:57] ok... but it will be updated in system updates / next version? [06:57] in dapper+1, yes [06:57] you can file a bug on chicken in dapper now if you like, as a memo [06:57] but it *should* be automatica. [06:58] well is not a bug, its simply that 1.63 cannot use chicken 'egg' modules in static linking and 2.2+ can [06:58] automatica? [06:58] s/a\./\./ [06:59] XhyldazhK: are these modules already packaged in dapper? [06:59] (I don't know anything about chicken, sorry) [06:59] nope... they are installable via a program that is included with chicken [06:59] it downloads them and installs them [07:00] if it were to install 1.63 now, would said modules be usable by default, or is extraordinary effort required to make them work? [07:00] s/if it/if I/ [07:01] crimsun: what are you trying to ask ? [07:01] 1.63 can use those modules, only cant make a statically linked executable using them [07:02] lifeless: if the current package is unusable (as in the older version of gtk-gnutella, say), then that's viable for a UVFe request [07:02] what is a problem for me because i'm developing for the gamepark holdings gp2x using a compiler installed by myself and using a cross-compiled chicken installed by myself(2.3) in addition to the 'normal' chicken 1.63 [07:03] now that I speak, for dapper+1 a cross compiler for gp2x would be great [07:03] XhyldazhK: is there one in Sid? [07:03] sid = unstable? [07:03] XhyldazhK: debian unstable, yeah [07:03] XhyldazhK: ok, as long as 1.63 is usable at least with those modules, then the impetus to file a UVF exception is much lower [07:04] yes, i know... [07:04] if that's not possible i will simply post somewhere the method to get ht updated chicken deb [07:05] XhyldazhK: if there is a gp2x cross-compiler in debian unstable/sid, then it should be in ubuntu edgy automatically, but if not, then someone has to package it [07:05] (never fear, dapper+1 is only a bit over one month away) === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XhyldazhK [n=xhyldazh@dsl-200-95-8-65.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mongoose [n=mongoose@ip68-106-216-206.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:04] hi === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik_home [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:18] no one? :) [08:18] hi ivoks [08:18] & Hobbsee [08:18] hi crimsun [08:18] hi crimsun [08:19] crimsun: did you wrote any spec? === Hobbsee has finished playing with the antialiasing settings, which were changed for some reason, and has changed them back to be something readable :D [08:19] crimsun: i tried to contribute something, but I guess that owner has to put me in Contribute list, right? 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=== StoneTable [n=stone@thorin.battleaxe.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:51] Malone bug 28810 in kdrill "undeclared dependency on libXp6" [Major,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/28810 === crimsun [i=crimsun@hacked.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Exxon- [n=exx@84.216.84.186] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Exxon- [n=exx@84.216.84.186] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === sivang [i=sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fabo_ [i=Arme-X@82.233.106.22] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kaloz [i=kaloz@openwrt.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mithrand1r [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c197005.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-072-009.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] [10:06] hi all! [10:07] hi :) [10:07] hi Unfrgiven and highvoltage [10:08] hi Hobbsee === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:08] hello Hobbsee highvoltage Unfrgiven === Hobbsee waves to zakame === highvoltage waves to zakame too [10:10] public holidays++ === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] zakame: ping? [10:20] slomo: pong, what's up? =) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] zakame: regarding bug #6004... please look bug #6003 [10:20] Malone bug 6004 in xvidcore "Changed CFLAGS for a speed increase." [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6004 [10:20] Malone bug 6003 in transcode "Changed CFLAGS for a speed increase." [Normal,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6003 [10:21] zakame: so don't do it ;) [10:21] slomo: ah, thanks for the heads-up ;-) [10:22] zakame: np :) === chantecode [n=fred@expressprintsystem-47-230.cnt.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:dholbach] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | We are in feature freeze now. Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DhIconCacheChanges and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) [10:51] unmetdeps went from 91->85 [10:52] rock on! === Hobbsee examines the page [10:54] 85 hey? [10:54] wtg [10:56] and that was on i386 [10:57] i suppose there are more around on amd64 and powerpc [10:57] it'd be nice if we could clean those up [10:57] most are easy rebuilds [10:58] and others might be just stuff we might want to remove [10:58] or sync from debian [10:59] dholbach: ping? [10:59] Hobbsee: pong [10:59] i'm here :) [10:59] bug 41535 - that package can now be removed from the repos, it's depreciated with kde 3.1 [11:00] Malone bug 41535 in konq-shellhere "[UNMETDEPS] xsim has unmet dependencies" [Minor,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41535 [11:00] yeah [11:00] i followed up on the bug [11:00] i'd rather like somebody from the kubuntu camp to get that done [11:00] oh, didnt see that [11:00] i don't want to be blamed for removing kubuntu packages :) [11:00] dholbach: well, i'm more from the kubuntu side, adn i'm telling you that you can remove it...that okay? [11:00] :P [11:00] no :) [11:01] I want somebody to justify and present it to 'ubuntu-archive' team. [11:01] damn. i'll raise it in our meeting tomorrow then [11:01] ... somebody else than me. [11:01] *wonders how to do that* [11:01] just say: it's obsolete, functionality is nowadays in blah, makes no sense, package has no rdepends, remove it please. [11:02] how can you see if anything relies on the package? [11:02] apt-cache rdepends [11:02] gotcha [11:02] rock on [11:02] nothing, great. [11:02] gets justified in the bug report? [11:03] yeah [11:03] and subscribe 'ubuntu-archive' [11:03] and make the bug description a bit more telling :) [11:03] <-- my fault [11:03] hehe gotcha [11:03] but as I said in my mail to ubuntu-motu, the bug in the script is fixed now [11:03] so next bug massfiling will be happier :) [11:04] hehe [11:08] dholbach: okay, done that one :) [11:08] nie! [11:08] nie! [11:08] nice! [11:08] ... [11:08] hehe [11:08] ni! to you too === dholbach hugs Hobbsee === Hobbsee hugs dholbach in return :) [11:10] er...for bug 41564 the package doesnt seem to exist on my system... [11:10] Malone bug 41564 in illuminator "[UNMETDEPS] xsim has unmet dependencies" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41564 [11:12] that's the source package name [11:12] binary packages are on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/illuminator/0.9.1-3 === ajmitch hugs dholbach & Hobbsee as well ;) [11:12] ooh, more hugs! [11:12] hey ajmitch :) [11:13] gotcha [11:13] hey daniel, how's it going? [11:13] fine, thanks [11:13] just trying to look into a gok segfault [11:13] sounds nasty [11:15] ooh goody...i think i can fix this one too... === Mongoose is away: /_\ zzZzZZZZzz === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd_ [n=dewd@201009186251.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@wall2.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] moin siretart === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] hey kelmo_lap [12:55] kelmo_lap: I uploaded something based on r370 to ubuntu for fixing the wext issue [12:56] kelmo_lap: there are quite a lot of reports in NM which I think will be fixed by this [12:56] siretart, sure there would be === ealden [n=ealden@203.177.229.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] siretart, cheers for verifying that on the ipw2100 hardware, i do not have ipw2100 available to me [01:01] :) [01:04] r370 or r320? [01:04] err, the one just before you refactored the ifupdown script [01:04] ok, 320 [01:04] I didn't get to thorough testing of the new script [01:04] ok === ealden [n=ealden@203.177.229.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] i would like to push a new upload, but would appreciate testing/advocating of the "refactored" script [01:05] siretart, wouls that be possible for you todo sometime in the next week or so? [01:05] s/wouls/would [01:07] kelmo_lap: I see that I get at week end to it [01:07] kelmo_lap: a quick test showed me that it works [01:07] but since we are in deep freeze for dapper, I'm more conservative with uploading there than to unstable [01:07] sure, you have every right to be [01:11] siretart, the other thing a didn't get a chance to say, madwifi-ng is on the verge of experimental (rotting in NEW), the madwifi-includes patch i already have in preparation for our experimental branch [01:11] siretart, but we could make another choice === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] siretart, on second thought, probably not [01:12] siretart, again, i'd like to test your thoughts on that issue === ealden [n=ealden@203.177.229.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] heh, as i ask, a bug is filed with an interesting patch [01:24] debian bug #365014 [01:24] Debian bug 365014 in wpasupplicant "Subject: wpasupplicant: Patch for supporting madwifi-old and madwifi-ng in parallel" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/365014 [01:24] hmm, interesting === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.207.41.251] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:56] kelmo_lap: err [01:56] kelmo_lap: I don't get it quite, I think. Why don't we just keep the madwifi-old headers in the package, and let the madwifi-ng users just use wext? [01:57] siretart, that was my "second thought" [01:57] Is wext less sucky than supplicant? [01:57] siretart, i would be happy todo that until as madwifi upstream, i declare madwifi-old dead [01:58] siretart, which could be as soon as 2.6.17 [01:59] and why do you want to switch the headers from madwifi-old to madwifi-ng at all? [01:59] I understand that it is for madwifi-old users only anyway === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] wb kel ;) [02:00] sorry, my sesion timed out [02:00] +s [02:01] _always_ happens mid-conversation [02:01] never when its quiet [02:02] gnar [02:02] f [02:02] why do you want to switch the headers from madwifi-old to madwifi-ng at all? I understand that we need the driver backend 'madwifi for madwifi-old users only anyway [02:03] siretart, i said yes, we should do exactly that, until madwifi-old is oldr than old, when it becomes madwifi-dead [02:03] soon it will be cactus ; ) === Fuddl [n=fuddl@faui00t.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] siretart, but like i said before, i am extremely wary about supporting both madwifi and madwifi-ng private ioctls, like suggested in the new bug [02:04] kelmo_lap: even if it becomes dead, the header is gpl'ed, and it doesn't harm [02:04] siretart, i use madwifi-ng on 2.4.32 [02:04] siretart, there is no wext there [02:05] kelmo_lap: I completly understand. and now there is the new fact, that madwifi-ng is happy with wext, so the bug report gets sort of 'invalid' [02:05] oh [02:05] but didn't you say that madwifi-ng would work with wext? [02:05] aah, not on 2.4. I see [02:05] hi Fuddl :) [02:05] hi siretart [02:06] siretart, yes i completely agree with you in some ways [02:06] siretart, but in other ways i take a different rtain of thought [02:06] s/rtain/train === Amaranth does a little dance [02:07] siretart, as you can already see, I am already telling the reporter of the new bug that madwifi-ng supports wext, therefore no extra patching is required [02:07] siretart, but in a way, as a madwifi admin, i feel like madwifi-ng should have full support at some stage [02:08] siretart, just at the right time ; ) === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] siretart, so thanks for your input, i think we can agree that since wext support is there, we can leave things as they are for now, ok? [02:10] kelmo_lap: I completely agree. [02:11] kelmo_lap: I suppose that there are still many users out there who don't want to switch to madwifi-ng (yet). I'd like to provide them with a working wpasupplicant as well [02:11] siretart, sure, but i don't like patches to support both [02:11] and for those who run madwifi-ng, there is wext. So only 2.4 users with madwifi-ng are in the cold, right? [02:12] siretart, no matter how good these patches are [02:12] siretart, because upstream already rejected such ideas [02:12] if upstream doesn't support that, we needn't either [02:12] good [02:13] siretart, 2.4 users, and users of <=2.6.13 [02:13] will be "in the cold" [02:13] I think that should be the minority. or become the minority in the foreseeable future [02:13] we cannot satisfy everyone anyway [02:14] well, when madwifi-old ceases to exist, i will change my tune [02:14] my point was: this is happening much sooner than i anticipated [02:17] did ubuntu just commit some persistent net renaming to their udev package or so? [02:20] I think it is there for some time.. You may want to ask Scott (Keybuk) for that, he cares for udev === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:49] can anyplease check if he can install a package named "upbackup" ? [02:49] that's the HomeUserBackup package, that has been already uploaded 2 days ago but for some reason did not appear [02:49] it alreayd came out from NEW as I recived 'Accepted' message [02:49] anyone an idea? [02:50] sivang: can not [02:50] freeflying: what do you get? [02:51] sivang: no package [02:52] sivang: seems it's atill in NEw queue [02:53] freeflying: I see [02:53] freeflying: thanks [02:53] sivang: :) === ryu [n=chris@p5487E74F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PhilKC [i=PhilKC@azureus/PhilKC] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@62-15-158-30.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] hi all === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.11.245.33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] if I assign a bug to motu-reviewers, is motu-reviewers implicitly subscribed to the bug? It doesn't seem to be getting any attention (bug 36051) === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [i=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] Heya gang === Hobbsee waves tiredly to bddebian [04:59] :-) Hi Hobbsee [04:59] :) === Hobbsee is not here [04:59] this is a script, pretending to be hobbsee :P [05:00] heh [05:01] wish the script would find her phone, and figure out the correct time for the alarm though === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@cp611456-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-10-238-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:25] G'day all === dewd_ [n=dewd@201009186251.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:30] Heya Yagisan, how's things? [05:32] bddebian: not to bad. short of cash though [05:32] Yagisan: Who isn't? :-) === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd_ [n=dewd@201009186251.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [i=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] bddebian: looks like my ddns provider has disappeared tonight. damm that is annoying. === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd_ [n=dewd@201009186251.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@cp611456-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=chris@p5487E74F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd_ [n=dewd@201009186251.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec [n=spec@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-motu === VincentRC [n=VincentR@122.193.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=cai@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-42-49.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:11] ooh, azureus === farruinn [n=farruinn@christy-wood.um.maine.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === farruinn [n=farruinn@christy-wood.um.maine.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] mutt doesn't come with an addressboook, right? === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@70.55.132.27] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik_home [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tdjb [n=tdjb@209.151.52.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu === farruinn [n=farruinn@ssprange-3.umm.maine.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] I have a .changes file I want to upload to my apt repository sitting elsewhere, I have dput set up to use scp, but when I do dput GANGES blah.changes, I get a traceback, for file in changes.dict['files'] .split('\n'): KeyError: 'files' === webwolf_27 [n=jeremy@DSL01.83.171.178.200.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0095.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:30] nothing going on here === Surak [n=ubuntu@201.19.183.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:30] webwolf_27: not much [09:30] I noticed === seth_ [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Surak [n=ubuntu@201.19.183.180] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:31] so now I'm gonna go check #mysql [09:31] webwolf_27: most of us are in exams or working [09:32] but say, there is a debian package that I want to port to breezy and dapper, who do I put in as the packager? [09:32] crimsun, I done with exams, and haven't found a job yet :( [09:32] webwolf_27: you would probably just add a new changelog entry [09:32] webwolf_27: it exists in debian but not in dapper? [09:32] s/dapper/ubuntu/ [09:33] dapper I haven't checked yet but it's not in breezy [09:33] avidemux [09:33] it's in dapper === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:34] Binary: avidemux [09:34] Version: 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu1 [09:34] we just approved a uvfe for it, heh [09:34] ok, and how do I get it for breezy [09:34] take the dapper package and build it in a breezy pbuilder [09:34] dapper srcpackage, that is [09:36] crimsun, of course source package [09:37] when I finnally get a few of my own projects finished I'll package them too === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] so I'm interested to see what happens with the SoC. I wasn't around for the last one but seem like a lot happened === erez [n=erez@89-138-87-197.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:28] hi people [10:29] hey phanatic :) [10:29] hello Gloubiboulga :) [10:35] Hello phanatic [10:35] hey bddebian [10:36] hi bddebian [10:40] Heya LaserJock === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:02] hi raphink [11:02] hi phanatic [11:04] bbl === tdjb [n=tdjb@209.151.52.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu