[12:00] <gnomefreak> FlameSphere,  type /msg ubotu restricted
[12:00] <thecrazymonk86> _jason: oh
[12:00] <FlameSphere> thanks
[12:00] <gnomefreak> FlameSphere, it should be under the w32codecs
[12:00] <_jason> thecrazymonk86: can you log in at tty1 by pressing ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[12:00] <FlameSphere> thank you
[12:00] <_jason> thecrazymonk86: you are on a differentm computer now correct?
[12:01] <NoUse> FlameSphere report a bug of severity "wishlist"
[12:01] <NoUse> FlameSphere it will be taken as a suggestion
[12:01] <Chulin> jaja
[12:01] <thecrazymonk86> i can get into a terminal
[12:01] <thecrazymonk86> _jason yes
[12:01] <_jason> thecrazymonk86: ls /usr/lib/libesd.so.0, what does that say?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> _jim_, can you paste the output of localedef --usage
[12:02] <Peps> If I use Dapper flight 6, which repositories do I use?
[12:02] <_jim_> sure
[12:02] <thecrazymonk86> _jason: too many levels of symobolic links
[12:03] <gnomefreak> Peps, join #ubuntu+1 please forr dapper
[12:03] <_jim_> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12947
[12:03] <PVZ> hey people,i have a problem that i believe to be very simple but i am a new user so i have no idea of how to solve it :P
[12:03] <_jason> thecrazymonk86: ls says that? hmm... didn't know it would... ok how about 'file /usr/lib/libesd.so.0'
[12:04] <PVZ> im sorry for any english mistakes,i am brazilian
[12:04] <_jason> PVZ: just ask your question.  If you prefer help in portuguese, try #ubuntu-br or #ubuntu-pt
[12:04] <thecrazymonk86> _jason: broken symbolic link to /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[12:04] <PVZ> i upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10 using synaptic (i downloaded the ISO file and put it in a cd)...
[12:05] <_jason> thecrazymonk86: are you sure you didn't mess up your command and write the 1 first and then the 0?
[12:05] <PVZ> when i rebooted,ubuntu wouldn't start,all i saw was the "prompt"
[12:05] <PVZ> is there a command to make ubuntu start?
[12:05] <PVZ> or...any way of making it start?
[12:05] <thecrazymonk86> _jason: it a possiblity, its been a long day
[12:05] <cowlikk> hello
[12:06] <Mystery47> hi all...
[12:06] <_jason> thecrazymonk86: ok, seems that is what happened... pastebin this please: dpkg -l 'libesd*' | grep ^ii
[12:06] <Chulin> nas
[12:06] <cowlikk> does anyone know how to set up php
[12:06] <PVZ> by the way,im here now cause i have a 5.04 Live cd
[12:06] <Mystery47> i just have some problems to convert image to grub.....or converting anything else....
[12:06] <lsuactiafner> i have a 512kbit wireless link, connects to the wireless access point via eth0, eth1 connects to a hub, the desktop users connects to the hub and uses the pc with eth0 as a gateway, i want to shape traffic so each of the 4 users has 128kbit dedicated and 512 if available, can someone please give me the tc and iptables commands i will need?
[12:06] <rnd_null> >> does anyone here have any experience recovering "dead" usb sticks??
[12:07] <gnomefreak> _jim_, give me a few mins please im gonna boot into ubuntu
[12:07] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:07] <_jim_> sure mate
[12:07] <luckyshot> does anyone know shell scripting?? please reply back. thanks!!!
[12:07] <khafra> Is there a linux program to view these? http://www.dot.state.fl.us/planning/statistics/gis/default.htm
[12:07] <_jason> !ask
[12:07] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[12:07] <Mystery47> whats the problem if it says: no decode delegate....
[12:07] <Mystery47> ..for this image format 'filename'
[12:08] <Mystery47> does convert program need some other imageformat packages to work...?
[12:08] <thecrazymonk86> _jason: its posted
[12:08] <luckyshot> does anyone know shell scripting?? please reply back. thanks!!!
[12:09] <_jason> luckyshot: just ask your question.
[12:09] <hyphenated> luckyshot apparently wants someone to do his homework for him
[12:09] <luckyshot> um no
[12:09] <luckyshot> hyph is confused i think
[12:09] <hyphenated> luckyshot: not really. you went to #bash and instead of asking a specific question, you pasted in your assignment instructions
[12:10] <PVZ> i upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10 using synaptic (i downloaded the ISO file and put it in a cd)...
[12:10] <PVZ> when i rebooted,ubuntu wouldn't start,all i saw was the "prompt"
[12:10] <PVZ> is there a way of making it start normally?
[12:10] <hyphenated> PVZ: which prompt?
[12:10] <PVZ> hm...
[12:10] <PVZ> like on "terminal"
[12:11] <_jason> luckyshot: I am not sure if this will work but we try it first: sudo aptitude reinstall
[12:11] <_jason> luckyshot: I am not sure if this will work but we try it first: sudo aptitude reinstall libesd-alsa0
[12:11] <PVZ> (i dont know many denominations,im a new user but be calm,im not stupid :P)
[12:11] <thecrazymonk86> _jason: did you get my post?
[12:11] <_jason> thecrazymonk86: yeah
[12:11] <hyphenated> PVZ: do you get as far as the Grub screen, where you choose what to be booting into?
[12:11] <PVZ> ok,i am stupid :P
[12:12] <PVZ> but all i can choose is...
[12:12] <poningru> yarr
[12:12] <PVZ> the user to be logging in
[12:12] <PVZ> and then "terminal" comes up
[12:12] <PVZ> it all seems to start normally
[12:12] <PVZ> until i get "choose user to log in in 'computer-name' ttyl"
[12:13] <Jasey> hello?
[12:13] <FlameSphere> where can I get different themes
[12:13] <Jasey> oops
[12:13] <poningru> FlameSphere: gnomelooks
[12:13] <poningru> !theme
[12:14] <poningru> !tell FlameSphere about theme
[12:14] <Jasey> my question is: last night i was installing some updates on dapper, and then the power cut me off mid install. this morning, i tried to boot into linux. i cud log in, but nothing loaded. i was left to enjoy moving a mouse around a brown screen with nothing to do. what could be wrong?
[12:14] <sphex> ahoy. hey does the live CD includes a ready-to-run GCC?
[12:15] <Datatec> hello everyone :)
[12:15] <_jason> sphex: it includes build-essential that you can install and get gcc
[12:15] <_jason> sphex: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[12:15] <Coruscant> does anyone use analog x   atomic time?
[12:15] <poningru> Jasey: switch to a different virtual console by pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[12:15] <poningru> and do a apt-get repair
[12:16] <thecrazymonk86> _jason: did you mean I am not sure if this will work but we try it first: sudo aptitude reinstall
 luckyshot: I am not sure if this will work but we try it first: sudo aptitude reinstall libesd-alsa0
[12:16] <sphex> _jason: OK. but where will it store it if booting with the live CD?
[12:16] <Jasey> oki poningru
[12:16] <_jason> sphex: ram
[12:16] <Jasey> where abouts do i press this ctrl alt f1 thing
[12:16] <_jason> thecrazymonk86 hmm?
[12:16] <kingspawn> ooh, I feel a spree of helpfulness coming on
[12:16] <sphex> _jason: OK. I guess I would be better off somehow installing it on disk if I want to use it multiple times eh?
[12:17] <thecrazymonk86> _jason: you said something to luckyshot but it sounded like a solution to my problem
[12:17] <thecrazymonk86> _jason plus, he never asked a question
[12:17] <_jason> thecrazymonk86: oh yes, that was for you
[12:17] <Datatec> wondering if anyone knows about an issue like this,  I tried the live CD of Dapper, really liked it and then installed to hhd (took over whole box) but then couldn't connect to the internet through my linksys router. Strange thing is if I boot that computer from the live cd I still can connect. Please help :(
[12:17] <_jason> luckyshot: sorry about that
[12:18] <_jason> sphex: up to you, I like ubuntu enough to give it my hard drive :)
[12:18] <PVZ> so people,is there a way to solve my problem?i thought it was as simple as a command :P
[12:19] <NoUse> Datatec are you getting an IP address?
[12:19] <blazemonger> question:why are there alot of packages that don't work properly like for example gnome-art crashes alot
[12:19] <_jason> blazemonger: file a bug
[12:19] <_jason> !bug
[12:19] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[12:19] <blazemonger> is dapper worth  updating to?
[12:19] <sphex> _jason: ok. :p right now, I simply need a way to test compilation of some code on Linux and I don't want to repartition or reboot all the time...
[12:20] <poningru> blazemonger: yes but the media stuff is a little broken
[12:20] <_jason> sphex: I would just use that one-liner then, shouldn't take too long
[12:20] <thecrazymonk86> _jason yes that fixed it i can get back into it and my sound works, thanks so much
[12:20] <_jason> thecrazymonk86: np
[12:20] <poningru> Datatec: is it working now?
[12:20] <blazemonger> ponds_, :not as broken as in breezy though right?
[12:21] <sphex> _jason: ok. I'm a newb with Ubuntu.. would that install it on disk if booting a standard installed system?
[12:21] <Coruscant> does anyone use analog x   atomic time? which server so i set it to?
[12:21] <_jason> sphex: yeah
[12:21] <poningru> blazemonger: actually totem is kinda broken
[12:21] <sphex> _jason: alright. thanks!
[12:21] <blazemonger> totem seems broken even in breezy hehhe
[12:21] <poningru> but if you get mplayer and/or vlc it works extremely well
[12:21] <Coruscant> no uise amarok!
[12:22] <poningru> hehe
[12:22] <blazemonger> ponds_, :for example in breezy my mouse cursor blacks out often
[12:22] <blazemonger> like turns totally black to where i can't see it
[12:22] <tweety> hello
[12:22] <poningru> blazemonger: hmm thats weird
[12:23] <sour> is there a help channel or something ?
[12:23] <poningru> sour: this is it
[12:23] <blazemonger> poningru, :that's why ive thought about updating to dapper
[12:23] <Datatec> so does anyone else know of issues where live cd connects to Internet fine but doesn't work if you install to hhd?
[12:23] <sour> how can i disable apm and acpi in 5.10 ?
[12:23] <poningru> blazemonger: yeah dude go for it, but it can cause other problems during update...
[12:23] <poningru> !update
[12:23] <ubotu> poningru: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:23] <kingspawn> sour: get a tool called bum
[12:23] <poningru> !upgrade
[12:23] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[12:24] <sour> thanks kingspawn
[12:24] <poningru> !bum
[12:24] <ubotu> somebody said bum was a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[12:24] <kingspawn> he?
[12:25] <kingspawn> ah, yes
[12:25] <poningru> sour: you can also apt-get install bum
[12:26] <blazemonger> btw how do you change the bootup splash screen?
[12:26] <dabaR_> !usplash
[12:26] <ubotu> I heard usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:27] <kingspawn> hahah
[12:27] <codecaine> install gencom splash screen
[12:27] <jvai> wassup peeps
[12:27] <kingspawn> i prefer turning the thing off
[12:28] <devill18> hello some one polish?
[12:28] <jvai> peeps, can squid proxy cache be hacked tru? it's the only port open on my box
[12:28] <codecaine> sudo apt-get install  gnome-splashscreen-manager
[12:28] <devill18> some one frome polish???
[12:28] <kingspawn> jvai: everything can potentially get hacked
[12:28] <kingspawn> !pl
[12:28] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:29] <devill18> :D
[12:29] <Datatec> Is their perhaps somewhere else I could get help with this type of issue (internet connection from live cd but not when installled)?
[12:29] <jvai> well, i meant to ask "is it safe" for the proxy cache to be open
[12:29] <xtreon> whats the best bittorrent client for ubuntu gnome?
[12:29] <jvai> it's a client side cache
[12:29] <NoUse> Datatec you never answer my question. :-) do you get an IP address?
[12:30] <poningru> xtreon: I like rufus
[12:30] <jvai> guess i'n cool, it's psswrd protected
[12:31] <poningru> Datatec: right click on the little network icon on the top right hand corner
[12:31] <kgrimm_> is there a good program to adjust a 5.1 analog soundcard? i'm only getting the 2 main speakers
[12:31] <poningru> err left click
[12:31] <Datatec> Sorry NoUse, I missed it.  In my network config box it shows everything correctly but I cannot ping any of the other boxes on the network
[12:32] <NoUse> Datatec pastebin the output of 'route' and 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[12:33] <Datatec> Thx, No Use, just give me a sec
[12:33] <jobezone> xtreon: gnome-bt-download (the one that is automatically used when clicking .torrent links in firefox) allways worked for me. Outside ubuntu, I use azureus, but I haven't tried any others.
[12:34] <Mortuis> I have to use "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb" to access my usb flash drive, but I can only get in as root.  How do I set permissions when issuing this command so that all users can access the usb flash drive?
[12:35] <jvai> the default bt client for nicely.. for me
[12:36] <NoUse>   java.math.BigDecimal idColVar = r.getBigDecimal(1);
[12:37] <NoUse> sorry for the paste, mistyped
[12:37] <jobezone> Mortuis: There is a user option you can give to mount, which I think allows what you want. Check the mount manual page.
[12:39] <xtreon> poningru: how do i get rufus? apt-get?
[12:39] <NoUse> Datatec I need to run, sorry, try conguring a static IP and see if that helps
[12:40] <mikebot> how do i change permissions?
[12:40] <mikebot> what is the terminal command?
[12:40] <xtreon> mikebot: chmod
[12:40] <codecaine> anjuta is a nice c ide :P
[12:40] <poningru> xtreon: oh they offer it on their website iirc
[12:40] <mikebot> Xterm35, thanks
[12:40] <poningru> !rufus
[12:40] <ubotu> poningru: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:40] <jobezone> Mortuis: I think you add something like ' -o user ' to the end of your mount line.
[12:40] <xtreon> poningru: hard to install?
[12:40] <codecaine> anybody know how I can change the color of ubuntu boot screen when its load modules etc for the kernel?
[12:40] <osotogari> Hello all, I am looking for a recommendation for an itunes replacement.
[12:41] <mikebot> sudo chmod 777 floppy?
[12:41] <mikebot> is that right?
[12:41] <xtreon> mikebot it gives all users alla rights to floppy
[12:41] <mikebot> ok, thanks
[12:41] <xtreon> np
[12:41] <jobezone> mikebot: There is a good page at ubuntu's wiki explaining permissions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions .
[12:42] <jobezone> mikebot: do you want all users to be able to have all right to the floppy?
[12:42] <Mortuis> jobezone: Thanks, the man page confused me, it appeared I had to put something in the /etc/fstab but I wasn't sure
[12:42] <mikebot> jobezone, yeah, i got it
[12:42] <mikebot> soprry
[12:42] <Mortuis> jobezone: I'll try out what you suggested
[12:42] <mikebot> my paper is due in 20 minutes, and i don't have a printer
[12:42] <mikebot> i have to go
[12:42] <mikebot> thanks for the help
[12:42] <mikebot> cya
[12:42] <poningru> no its a deb
[12:43] <poningru__> sorry
[12:43] <|die7|> hi all
[12:43] <fensta> this might be a totally stupid question.. but can you install koffice to run on gnome?
[12:44] <|die7|> yes
[12:44] <jobezone> fensta: yep :)
[12:44] <Isaac-Lew> fensta: yes, just install the kde libraries
[12:44] <fensta> ok
[12:44] <osotogari> so anyone know a good itunes replacement?
[12:44] <shaggyoaf> hey everybody, I'm on ubuntu stable and I'm seeing that the version of ssh is 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1... does that correspond to version 4.1 on the website?
[12:44] <poningru__> http://www.ubuntudebs.luxz.net/
[12:44] <jobezone> they are installed automatically, when using add/remove programs, synaptic, apt-get...
[12:45] <|die7|> u mean Openssh
[12:45] <poningru__> osotogari: rythmbox or amarok
[12:45] <Datatec> NoUse: Datatec pastebin the output of 'route' and 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[12:45] <Datatec> Ok I did, the machine that  is not working only returned one line from route, and for the cat statement is only showing two of the three name servers
[12:46] <osotogari> i have tried amarok but when syncing i was told to unmount and remove my ipod. i tried unmounting it but i was given an error "incorrect argument"
[12:46] <klav> hi
[12:46] <_jim_> anyone got a clue why it says that locales is broken and i cant update or install anything ? plz
[12:46] <osotogari> I'll try rythmebox though
[12:47] <ingwe> ubuntu
[12:47] <_harm> is some one old enough to rember talk? and if so wanne have a test session w. me?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> _jim_: ok sorry bout that we are having storms here
[12:47] <ingwe> no one
[12:47] <klav> my laptop shutted down in the middle of the process of installing packages after the first reboot while installing, how do i restart that?
[12:47] <ingwe> why
[12:47] <gnomefreak> _jim_: let me look at a few things
[12:47] <ingwe> why
[12:47] <_jim_> alright mate :)
[12:47] <poningru> _jim_: there should be a repair thing under file or something in synaptic
[12:47] <ingwe> poningru is gay
[12:48] <osotogari> another question, if i have suse installed on my laptop can i just install ubuntu breezy over those partitions?
[12:48] <ingwe> osotogari is gay
[12:48] <_jim_> well i dont see anything ... :(
[12:48] <_harm> _jim_ having a problem again?
[12:48] <jobezone> klav Can you boot into ubuntu? If so, you can just finish it by running 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[12:49] <ingwe> jobezone is gay
[12:49] <osotogari> ingwe, whats your problem?
[12:49] <_jim_> ingwe.... wtf  ?
[12:49] <_harm> is some one old enough to rember talk? and if so wanne have a test session w. me?
[12:49] <poningru> !ops
[12:49] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[12:49] <klav> i can jobezone, thanks
[12:49] <ingwe> that you are gay
[12:49] <poningru> can someone take out this ingwe guy people
[12:49] <poningru> err please
[12:49] <_jim_> hehe bb ingwe
[12:49] <osotogari> go away you child
[12:49] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:49] <_jim_> :D
[12:49] <_jim_> what was that...
[12:49] <_jim_> ?
[12:50] <fensta> im about to switch my main windows box to linux this weekend.. anyone have any suggestions on MUST HAVE linux apps?
[12:50] <_harm> nalioth u wanne test if talk works for me?
[12:50] <osotogari> not at you _jim_, @ ingwe
[12:50] <klav> screen
[12:50] <_jim_> lol i know :p
[12:50] <poningru> fensta: depends what apps do you use under win?
[12:50] <osotogari> :)
[12:50] <_jim_> _harm_ hey man
[12:50] <jobezone> ubuntu's final stage of installation is base-config, right?
[12:50] <_harm> fensta yah.. u MUST have apt-get and then everythgin will work
[12:51] <_jim_> _harm_ i have problem with locales
[12:51] <osotogari> so can i just rewrite those suse partitions when installing ubuntu?
[12:51] <kingspawn> fensta: just you get networking up and going, and you can get everything you ever dreamed of (and a dog)
[12:51] <fensta> irc, web, email, photoshop, virus protection, firewall
[12:51] <_harm> _jim_ big or small? check for capitols ad such
[12:51] <fensta> those are what I use the most
[12:51] <_jim_> nah
[12:51] <_harm> fensta u dont need virus or firewall > photoshop = GIMP
[12:51] <_jim_> _harm_ i cant update or install anything... it says locales is broken
[12:51] <kingspawn> fensta: irc = irssi, web = opera9, email = thunderbird, photoshop = the gimp, virus = not really needed, firewall = not really needed, but firestarter might be good
[12:52] <visik7> hi
[12:52] <fensta> do yall really like the gimp???? I find it quite difficult to use :\
[12:52] <visik7> why cinelerra isn't packaged for ubuntu ?
[12:52] <osotogari> you guys dont think a firewall is a must have?
[12:52] <MHobbit> XChat is pretty good IMHO.
[12:52] <osotogari> xchat ftw!!
[12:52] <_jason> osotogari: not really, why?
[12:52] <visik7> osotogari: a must for a lan not a must for my laptop
[12:52] <MHobbit> GIMP is really good once you get to know how to use it.
[12:52] <scarn> xchat pwns
[12:53] <MHobbit> :-)
[12:53] <osotogari> _jason: just wondering, im pretty much a n00b when it comes to the world of Linux
[12:53] <kingspawn> xchat...
[12:53] <jobezone> fensta: see the end of my webpage: http://jobezone.wordpress.com/2006/03/07/aspire-3003lmi-on-debian-testing-etch/#more-10 . except gdebi, that isn't available for ubuntu breezy, the remaining programs are the ones I use in a Gnome environment.
[12:53] <kingspawn> i usually go for functionality and speed
[12:53] <fensta> ok rad.... oh ya.. what about widgets/launch bars.. any suggestions?
[12:53] <fensta> I like weather feeds and some news feeds
[12:53] <_harm> is some one old enough to rember talk? and if so wanne have a test session w. me?
[12:54] <fensta> I found a great app for windows called klipfolia
[12:54] <_harm> fensta iam using gdesklets now its great
[12:54] <fensta> klipfolia
[12:54] <fensta> ack
[12:54] <fensta> klipfolio
[12:54] <fensta> there we go
[12:54] <osotogari> visik7: i have two laptops here and a desktop in my lan, would i need a firewall then?
[12:54] <_harm> fensta iam using gdesklets now its great widget thing
[12:54] <_jim_> hey _harm
[12:54] <MHobbit> fensta: How about http://www.gnome.org/projects/straw/ ?
[12:54] <visik7> osotogari: are they linux only ?
[12:54] <_jim_> is there a way to fix locales ?
[12:54] <_harm> osotogari no.. you router provides a firewall function, most licly
[12:54] <_harm> _jim_ yeah but i dont know how
[12:54] <jobezone> _fensta, liferea for rss. there is a weather applet as well.
[12:55] <osotogari> one windows laptop running zonealarm pro, one linux only laptop and linux only desktop
[12:55] <visik7> osfameron: u are already behind a nat that preclude external ppl to connect directly to your machines
[12:55] <visik7> btw for windows an outgoing firewall is suggested
[12:55] <_harm> osotogari no.. you router provides a firewall function, internet network doesnt really require firewalls
[12:56] <jobezone> _jim_: have you tried running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'?
[12:56] <fensta> visik7.. thats the only reason I use a firewall in windows.. to see whats going out
[12:56] <gnomefreak> _jim_: i would check launchpad at this moment nothing seems to be doing what i want but please first try sudo apt-get -f install   no package just that command as is and let me know if it gives you remove install upgrade whatever the out put is before you contiune with it
[12:56] <jobezone> _jim_: or, choosing the locales package in synaptic, and then going to the menu Package->configure package
[12:56] <fensta> that lifrea doesnt seem to run on the desktop.. looks like it is a full window program :\
[12:56] <gnomefreak> jobezone: yeah thats not working either
[12:56] <gnomefreak> jobezone: neither work
[12:56] <osotogari> ok cool, thanks guys
[12:57] <jobezone> ah, ok
[12:57] <jobezone> fensta: ah, yes. I've tried one or two rss readers for gdesklets, but didn't like it that much...
[12:57] <gnomefreak> hes got one not fully installed and i was trying to figure out how to fix it without apt-get -f install :(
[12:57] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone ill try those now hold on
[12:58] <jhenn> firestarter keeps saying it is blocking one of my ips from accessing dhcp but i want to allow that ip to access dhcp.  i right click and say "allow connections from this source" and it doesn't allow.  it still shows up as being blocked.
[12:58] <jobezone> gnomefreak: why without apt-get -f install?
[12:58] <fensta> the klipfolio is rockin on windows.. I am gonna miss it :\
[12:58] <gnomefreak> jobezone: to see if there was a neater way to do it
[12:58] <jobezone> what's the full error message from 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'? Or it doesn't give one?
[12:58] <jobezone> gnomefreak: aahhh :))
[12:59] <jobezone> well, if the installation was stopped, then the only way would be to tell apt-get to -f(ix) it, or fix it yourself using dpkg.
[12:59] <Datatec> NoUse you still around?
[12:59] <kingspawn> anyone in the know as to how i can probe my videocard for clock cycles?
[01:00] <_jim_> root@10:~# dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:00] <_jim_> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed
[01:00] <gnomefreak> jobezone: yeah im thinking that but im not sure why its not fully installed (he never said)
[01:00] <codecaine> is there a program like partition magic for ubuntu?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> _jim_: run sudo apt-get -f install
[01:00] <gnomefreak> codecaine: gparted or qtparted
[01:01] <_jim_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:01] <jobezone> codecaine: and cfdisk.
[01:01] <gnomefreak> codecaine: like as in does same thing?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> give or take
[01:01] <gnomefreak> _jim_: sudo dpkg --config
[01:01] <jobezone> _jim_: can you paste the entire output in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:01] <jobezone> ?
[01:01] <bluegirl0101> Hello!!  anybody here run DamnSmallLinux inside WinXPhome NTFS ? need help,cannot run dsl 2.3 embedded inside.. DOS windows pops up for a 2sec. and then nothing happends
[01:01] <_jim_> yea sure
[01:01] <_jim_> hold on
[01:02] <codecaine> yes shrink a partition so you can add another os on the hd
[01:02] <_jim_> gnomefreak, dpkg: unknown option --config
[01:02] <_jim_> jobezone, which one u want ?
[01:02] <_jim_> of the -f ?
[01:02] <tweety> barca!!!
[01:02] <gnomefreak> bluegirl0101: this is a ubuntu help channel
[01:02] <jobezone> _jim_: yeah
[01:02] <bluegirl0101> only help 4 ubuntu?
[01:02] <gnomefreak> _jim_: yes the -f output to start with
[01:02] <Elazar> Any have trouble with installing the latest version of FrostWire? Seems like the shell script for which a launcher in placed in Applications > Internet has an error in it and I can't figure out how to fix it.
[01:03] <tweety> sorry
[01:03] <bluegirl0101> where else could i get help tonight
[01:03] <Datatec> could anyone help me diagnose a network problem?  on live cd can connect to internet but after installed to hhd could not :(
[01:03] <poningru> bluegirl0101: whats wrong?
[01:03] <poningru> oh
[01:03] <jobezone> bluegirl0101: isn't there a damnsmalllinux channel?
[01:03] <_jim_> jobezone, gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12949  < with -f
[01:03] <poningru> yeah sorry dude go find a dsl channel
[01:03] <tweety> bmp supports xmms skins?
[01:04] <bluegirl0101> my bios doesnt have a yeah, but it a graveyard now...dont blame'm i should be goin to bed myself
[01:04] <Datatec> on install does not assign ip from dhcp and gui doesn't seem to do a release renew thing
[01:04] <bluegirl0101> cu later :D
[01:05] <timlinux> how do I delete all my gnome settings so my desktop reverts to the state it was in on first install? I tried delteing ~/.gnome* but that doesnt seem to do the trick
[01:05] <codecaine> on gparted how can you use it if your using that operation system won't allow you to create a new partition
[01:06] <Cattack> Question about an install issue.  I want to have 3 Linux distros on the same box.   Can they share the same /boot so that Grub can load them?
[01:06] <kingspawn> codecaine: you need to boot off a live cd to actually change the active filesytem
[01:06] <gnomefreak> _jim_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:06] <timlinux> how do I delete all my gnome settings so my desktop reverts to the state it was in on first install? I tried deleting ~/.gnome* but that doesnt seem to do the trick. Im running ubuntu dapper (gnome 1.14 I think)
[01:07] <Cattack> *or will they stomp on each others toes.
[01:07] <codecaine> oh ok ty
[01:07] <gnomefreak> _jim_: again let me know what it does before you continue with it
[01:07] <_jim_> hmm error again i think
[01:07] <Talldave2002> i have a problem with ie4linux. it is installing ok, but looking for an old uninstalled wine version, any ideas how i can chenge the installation of ie4linux
[01:07] <_jim_> paste bin ?
[01:07] <ingwe> jim is gay
[01:07] <timlinux> my apologies for double post :-P
[01:07] <jobezone> codecaine: you can only mess with partitions which are not mounted. So, if you want to resize or do something to a currently mounted partition, like the root (/) partition, you'll have to use a LiveCD.
[01:07] <poningru> Cattack: if you install ubuntu last it should configure it all
[01:07] <ingwe> timlinux is gay
[01:08] <slackern> !language
[01:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[01:08] <_jim_> .....
[01:08] <kingspawn> Talldave2002: is ie4linux internet explorer? if so, why?
[01:08] <ingwe> poningru is gay
[01:08] <jobezone> timlinux: there are also the .gcon* directories.
[01:08] <slackern> !ops
[01:08] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:08] <timlinux> jobezone: ah thanks....
[01:08] <_jim_> :)
[01:08] <Talldave2002> just a couple of net things that i cannot do in firefox
[01:08] <Datatec> can anyone help diagose a internet connection problem?  live cd connects to internet fine but once I installed to hhd doesn't connect
[01:08] <sskroeder> Hi all .... i've just been apointed to be apache-resposible at my institute - Our current servers run Solaris - but we are begining to head more and more towards linux - all our desktops are linux (mandriva) and only 4 (but essential) servers are still on the Solaris platform .... I was thinking about suggesting that the apache server (http and https) ran Ubuntu - but i wanted to ask here first - how soon does apache security patche
[01:08] <sskroeder> s get into ubuntu ? -- pretty soon - or with days/weeks/months delay ?
[01:08] <_jim_> gnomefreak, i should paste bin it ?
[01:08] <poningru> Talldave2002: such as?
[01:08] <jobezone> timlinux: the .gconf* actually.
[01:09] <ironman> Woow
[01:09] <gnomefreak> _jim_: no i have something else for you to try
[01:09] <Cattack> I am planning to run FC5, SuSe, and Ubuntu on the same box but I dont want to need bootdisks for each one.
[01:09] <Talldave2002> its an online game that uses loads of popups, java,and shockwave
[01:09] <gnomefreak> _jim_: sudo --configure locales
[01:09] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  ok
[01:09] <ironman> i think the kubuntu installation ruined my second hdd :O
[01:09] <gnomefreak> no
[01:09] <kingspawn> Cattack: just use grub
[01:09] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg --configure locales
[01:09] <ironman> Hmm, how to enter a ntfs-formatted hdd?
[01:09] <Talldave2002> i know better than to use ie as a browser
[01:09] <gnomefreak> _jim_: ^^^
[01:09] <ironman> it's my other hddd
[01:09] <poningru> Talldave2002: ah gotcha
[01:10] <Cattack> THey can be installed in any order, I just need to make sure the one I want to dominate is last?
[01:10] <_jim_> gnomefreak, as root all these right ?
[01:10] <ShadowNova> I'm trying to compile a program, can someone tell me where to download the packages I need to compile stuff from the terminal?
[01:10] <poningru> sskroeder: pretty fast actually
[01:10] <gnomefreak> _jim_: as sudo ubuntu doesnt have root enabled by default
[01:10] <Talldave2002> how do i highlight a post to a user ( the red bits i can see?
[01:10] <poningru> sskroeder: but not fast enough for a production level server imho
[01:10] <_jim_> ok
[01:10] <gnomefreak> if by root you mean "su"
[01:10] <Datatec> can anyone help diagose a internet connection problem?  live cd connects to internet fine but once I installed ubuntu to the hhd it doesn't connect
[01:10] <jobezone> gnomefreak: couldn't jim also try to remove the 'locales' package, then reinstall it? When removing it, some others will be removed also, but he can afterwards install them.
[01:10] <poningru> sskroeder: as in couple of days to about a week delay
[01:10] <bimberi> Talldave2002: by using their nick in the post
[01:11] <sskroeder> poningru, ok ;-( .. not even when adding "Security" repositories ?
[01:11] <_jim_> jobezone, gnomefreak  sudo --configure locales returned me some commands to choose
[01:11] <gnomefreak> jobezone: he could but im hoping it doesnt come to that because im not sure what its gonna want to remove
[01:11] <Talldave2002> bimberi like this?
[01:11] <ironman> WTF, i cant enter my ntfs-partitions
[01:11] <bimberi> Talldave2002: yep - that hilighted for me :)
[01:11] <ironman> should i be able to do that?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> _jim_: paste it on pastebin please
[01:11] <ShadowNova> ironman, You need the ntfs package from the livna repository
[01:12] <Talldave2002> bimberi you learn something new every day
[01:12] <ShadowNova> ironman, It'll let you have read access to NTFS
[01:12] <ironman> to just read ntfs? ShadowNova
[01:12] <ironman> oh okey
[01:12] <bimberi> Talldave2002: :)
[01:12] <Drowsiness> ironman: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=fstab - read that, it should help
[01:12] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone  there you go :)  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12950
[01:12] <jobezone> gnomefreak: You could check with your ubuntu. I'm debian right now, and it wants to remove openoffice, and some others. but ubuntu has ubuntu-desktop, which may be removed, and along it some others which want it installed...
[01:12] <ShadowNova> ironman, It's in the livna repo, I can't remember what it's called
[01:12] <gnomefreak> jobezone: im not using breezy
[01:12] <gnomefreak> !ntfs
[01:12] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:13] <Talldave2002> poningru any ideas about ie4linux
[01:13] <sskroeder> poningru, ok... that might not cut it then -- my boss is pretty messed up since we had a hacker/exploit-user on our system just before easter ;-/ ... (he more or less demands that vunerabilites be fixed within hours of the vunerability being publicized ;-//
[01:13] <ShadowNova> Can anyone tell me where to get the libraries I need to compile tarballs?
[01:13] <gnomefreak> _jim_: sudo dpkg --configure locales    sorry i typoed that
[01:13] <Datatec> can anyone help diagose a internet connection problem?  live cd connects to internet fine but once I installed ubuntu to the hhd it doesn't connect to net
[01:13] <Drowsiness> You don't compile tarballs.. you extract them. Unless I am missing something.
[01:13] <poningru> sskroeder: you are not going to get that kinda fast update from any distro
[01:14] <poningru> you have to maintain and patch the thing yourself in that case
[01:14] <bimberi> Talldave2002: sidenet worked well for me when i installed ie on wine a few months back - http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[01:14] <ShadowNova> yeah, and you compile the source from the tarball
[01:14] <Drowsiness> You have to extract the source from the tarball first.
[01:14] <_jim_> gnomefreak, error
[01:14] <gnomefreak> Drowsiness: you extract them than run the config file if it has one
[01:14] <ShadowNova> I did
[01:14] <gnomefreak> _jim_: same error?
[01:14] <ShadowNova> I need the libraries to compile it, since I seem to have none
[01:14] <Talldave2002> bimberi tried that top same problems
[01:14] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  i think yes ...  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12952
[01:14] <sskroeder> poningru, i know ... i guess that means that were back to patching source and the old "make"-job ;-/
[01:14] <bimberi> Talldave2002: ah kk :/
[01:14] <Elazar> Can anybody help with this issue I have executing an Ubuntu install of Frostwire? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12951
[01:15] <richard> im having a problem with GRUB, after installation and i reboot after about 20 minuets GRUB comes up, 20 minutes later loading stage1.5 pops up, and about an hour later i came back and nothing was there just the blinking underscore, can anyone help me
[01:15] <jobezone> _jim_: try  'sudo locale-gen' and pasting the error, if any.
[01:15] <gnomefreak> jobezone: hes not gonna beable to uninstall them (was just thinking about that)
[01:15] <ShadowNova> richard, that happened to me. My CD was corupted, so I made another and it worked
[01:15] <sskroeder> poni
[01:15] <polpak> sskroeder, how is that different than what you do for your solaris systems?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> i forgot about locale-gen :(
[01:15] <jmg> Datatec: Are you using one of the betas?
[01:15] <Elazar> richard: Did you checksum yours?
[01:15] <poningru> sskroeder: hehe yeah the best thing to do is to help out with apache dev cycles and actually do the bug fixes
[01:15] <richard> ok will try that
[01:16] <richard> yes
[01:16] <slackern> sskroeder: maybe you should run apache in a chrooted enviroment also.
[01:16] <richard> no errors
[01:16] <Elazar> richard: Errors? *rae*
[01:16] <_jim_> something like report
[01:16] <Elazar> richard: You mean your hash was the same as the one provided for the image you downloaded?
[01:16] <Elazar> Davey: Heya. :)
[01:16] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  no error...
[01:16] <richard> will redownload and reburn
[01:16] <Datatec> can anyone help diagose a internet connection problem?  live cd connects to internet fine but once I installed ubuntu to the hhd it doesn't connect
[01:16] <_jim_> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12953
[01:16] <gnomefreak> _jim_: is it running the generator (sp)
[01:17] <jmg> Datatec: install breezy or dapper?
[01:17] <Datatec> jmg dapper
[01:17] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  , type usage to see that ?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> thats what i figured
[01:17] <gnomefreak> ihmmmmm
[01:17] <Drowsiness> Has anyone here used synaptic to upgrade from breezy 5.10 to Dapper? Were there any issues after you did it?
[01:17] <polpak> !upgrade
[01:17] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[01:18] <jobezone> _jim_: what have you got in /etc/locale.gen
[01:18] <Drowsiness> Thanks, polpak, I know how to do it.. I just want to know if anyone had issues after having done it.
[01:18] <gnomefreak> _jim_: can you open your updater in your menu system>admin>update manager
[01:18] <polpak> Drowsiness, should probably ask in ubuntu+1 since most ppl here are using breezy =)
[01:18] <_jim_> jobezone, what i have : Usage: /usr/sbin/validlocale <locale>
[01:18] <heero> Drowsiness, i dont know but u can be alert, with things like xorg and openoffice
[01:18] <sphex> hmm. Ubuntu seems to have booted successfully in a Qemu but the keyboard doesn't work. any idea?
[01:19] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  one sec
[01:19] <heero> if u have oo1 and u will update to oo2 is better remove oo1 after of try
[01:19] <jobezone> _jim_: that's what you have in the text file /etc/locale.gen?
[01:19] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  update manager ?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Drowsiness: i would use apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:19] <_jim_> jobezone, yes
[01:19] <heero> and similar when u try update xfree to xorg
[01:19] <gnomefreak> _jim_: system>admin>update manager
[01:19] <heero> remove all after to do an update
[01:19] <sskroeder> polpak, it's not that different -... the only problem is that we only have one staff-member left who is trained in solaris - and she may be on the way out (retirement) ... the thing is that she made this pretty complicated system on the solaris boxen when she came many years ago - and it's a bit of a hassle to get anything to work there ... I just spend 6 hours today trying to get a https server up and running on solaris (and it sti
[01:19] <sskroeder> ll isn't up yet) -- i (for fun) used about 8 minutes here on my ubuntu laptop - and had https up and running with ease ...
[01:19] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  yes im in that one right now
[01:19] <gnomefreak> _jim_: it opens?
[01:19] <_jim_> gnomefreak, yeah
[01:20] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[01:20] <gnomefreak> _jim_: close that try synapitc
[01:20] <_jim_> gnomefreak, i gave admin rights to my user before
[01:20] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  ok
[01:20] <jobezone> gnomefreak: I think I'm seeing some way to solve this. He can run  'sudo calidlocale <locale>' for each locale he wants. Then, he runs 'sudo locale-gen' to generate the previous ones.
[01:20] <polpak> sskroeder, right.. so your options are to use solaris (which seems impossible w/o hiring someone very proficient with it) or using linux (ubuntu)
[01:21] <gnomefreak> jobezone: he has to know what locale is not fully installed and see if its still missing depends
[01:21] <jobezone> gnomefreak: that's 'sudo validlocale <locale>'
[01:21] <Datatec> jmg:  I installed dapper from live cd/ internet was working on live cd but after installed to hhd quit working
[01:21] <polpak> sskroeder, now if you want to have security fixes patched as soon as they're released you'll have to build from source
[01:21] <sskroeder> slackern, a chrooted system, you say ? ... i'm not that familiar with the term - is it like "virtual machine sandboxing" (for lack of a better analogy) ..
[01:21] <gnomefreak> jobezone: i knew what you meant ;)
[01:21] <jobezone> gnomefreak: mmm..
[01:21] <FearMoth> is there a theme editor to edit the gtkrc file and change the colors?
[01:21] <polpak> sskroeder, but you can probably secure your system in other ways which can mitigate the potential damage from a would be attacker until a security release is available
[01:21] <slackern> sskroeder: Yes as you so well put it, http://www.google.se/search?q=apache+chroot&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=Swiftfox:en-US:unofficial
[01:21] <gnomefreak> _jim_: is synaptic opening?
[01:22] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  yes
[01:22] <slackern> ohh that was a long url, sorry about that.
[01:22] <polpak> sskroeder, chrooting apache is certainly a good way to start
[01:22] <_jim_> gnomefreak, of course all that after i gave admin rights
[01:22] <jobezone> gnomefreak: Isn't it worth a shot? It may be that locales aren't regenerated, because none were specified/added to /etc/locale.gen
[01:22] <gnomefreak> _jim_: find out what locales are not installed prperly and see if you can install them from synaptic
[01:22] <sphex> are there any special hot keys you can use when the install CD is booted to get extra diagnostics?
[01:22] <Elazar> Can anybody help with this issue I have executing an Ubuntu install of Frostwire? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12951
[01:23] <gnomefreak> jobezone: yes it is but hes got synaptic open (whick bothers me cause apt-get update doesnt work
[01:23] <sskroeder> polpak, can i do that - in tandem - with a normal ubuntu install - and then "switch it over" to a patched build - until the paches are available from the repositories ?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> and synaptic checks apt-get update
[01:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell Elazar about frostwire
[01:23] <_jim_> gnomefreak, no i cant install properly from syanptic
[01:23] <_jim_> gnomefreak, i install but i get error
[01:23] <polpak> Elazar, can you pastebin that runFrost.sh script?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> _jim_: try jobezone way lets see what you get
[01:24] <Datatec> can anyone help diagose a internet connection problem?  live cd connects to internet fine but once I installed ubuntu to the hhd it doesn't connect
[01:24] <Elazar> _jason: Ah, much thanks. :)
[01:24] <_jim_> jobezone, so man what to do ?
[01:24] <kingspawn> Datatec: dhcp or static ip?
[01:24] <Elazar> polpak: It's cool, apparently the script is in DOS format, so I'm going to have to use dos2unix to convert it.
[01:24] <ibob63> is there something that like access that I can use on linux?
[01:24] <Datatec> kingspan: dhcp
[01:24] <polpak> Elazar, ah
[01:24] <polpak> sskroeder, seems like overkill
[01:24] <kingspawn> Datatec: during installation, is dhcp working? are you getting an  ip at all after install?
[01:25] <sskroeder> polpak, ok...
[01:25] <jobezone> _jim_: can you close synaptic. Then do 'sudo validlocale en_US.UTF-8'
[01:25] <Datatec> kingspawn: no :(
[01:25] <gnomefreak> _jim_: sudo validlocale <locale>  replace <locale> with whatever locale is not installed properly
[01:25] <kingspawn> Datatec: on both accounts?
[01:25] <jobezone> _jim_: and then do 'sudo locale-gen'
[01:25] <Talldave2002> bimberi just tried sidenet again, not working, so frustrating since i had it working before, but i has installed wine from tarball on my desktop, so i removed it and reinstalled it
[01:25] <Datatec> kingspawn: sorry both accounts?
[01:25] <jobezone> _jim_: and then do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'
[01:25] <kingspawn> Datatec: I asked two questions
[01:25] <polpak> sskroeder, what sort of services are you supplying with your website?
[01:25] <_jim_> jobezone, >> locale 'en_US.UTF-8' not available
[01:26] <jobezone> _jim_: that's what it should say
[01:26] <Datatec> kingspawn: sorry, yes dhcp is working on other computers and this one using the live cd, but from the hhd install doesn't give me a IP address
[01:26] <_jim_> jimoupas@10:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:26] <_jim_> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed
[01:26] <jobezone> _jim_: now run sudo locale-gen
[01:26] <_jim_> ok
[01:26] <gn0m3> hi
[01:26] <Elazar> _jason: Yup, that did it. :) Many thanks.
[01:27] <kingspawn> Datatec: okay. what does typing dhclient output?
[01:27] <jobezone> _jim_: and then do 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[01:27] <kingspawn> Datatec: might need "sudo dhclient"
[01:27] <gn0m3> hey can anyone help me with the gaim messenger
[01:27] <gnomefreak> i was afraid of that
[01:27] <CrashProne> So umm... I have a stuck setup thing in apt-get, and no matter how long I leave it running, it won't finish, and if I cancel it, it tries to do it again (unsuccessfully) with dpkg --configure -a ... How do I make it give up installing a package?
[01:27] <sskroeder> polpak ... well... general webpages - the https is used for accessing webmail (via squirrelMail) - furthermore, all students (it's a university) have a www_public dir so they can have a homepage on the institute... -- more or less pretty basic stuff...
[01:27] <jobezone> gnomefreak: of what?
[01:28] <kingspawn> CrashProne: kill the process :)
[01:28] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12954
[01:28] <gnomefreak> jobezone: apt-get -f install isnt gonna work i dont think
[01:28] <_jim_> yup :(
[01:28] <sskroeder> polpak, a few php based web-apps
[01:28] <CrashProne> kingspawn: apt-get just retries to finish it, and refuses to work until it finishes which it won't.
[01:28] <Datatec> kingspawn: dhclient.leases: permission denied   dhclient..pid Permission denied  drop_privileges: could not set group id:  Operation not permitted
[01:28] <vaaX> is there a command for ther terminal to get your cd drive to open?
[01:29] <polpak> sskroeder, but essentially anything apache can view is public data anyway?
[01:29] <jobezone> _jim_: did 'sudo locale-gen' work?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> _jim_: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[01:29] <kingspawn> CrashProne: apt-get wont retry if you kill it good
[01:29] <gnomefreak> im seeing something im concered about
[01:29] <CrashProne> 0_o
[01:29] <kingspawn> Datatec: then do "sudo dhclient"
[01:29] <bimberi> Talldave2002: :/ - btw i installed using the .deb from the winehq repository
[01:29] <sskroeder> polpak, with regards to  ?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> ill brb
[01:29] <daddius> hello all
[01:29] <do_me_nice> hello
[01:29] <do_me_nice> is there a way to compare 2 text files with a terminal command?
[01:29] <_jim_> jobezone, sudo locale-gen returns me some info...
[01:29] <vaaX> is there a command for ther terminal to get your cd drive to open?
[01:29] <_jim_> gnomefreak, one sec
[01:30] <do_me_nice> or a recomended program
[01:30] <polpak> sskroeder, well essentially what I'm getting at is this.. What would the potential damage be if your webserver were comprimised?
[01:30] <_jason> do_me_nice: diff, comm
[01:30] <daddius> i have a strange question
[01:30] <jobezone> _jim_: ok, but if 'apt-get -f install' doesn't work after, nevermind it :)
[01:30] <do_me_nice> _jason: thank you
[01:30] <CrashProne> Ah!  FINALLY it decided it ha d an error processing the package.
[01:30] <bimberi> Talldave2002: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[01:30] <CrashProne> Good..
[01:30] <gn0m3> _jason: u know anything about the gaim messenger
[01:30] <polpak> sskroeder, apart from just general loss of web services
[01:30] <daddius> i am using gkrellm as a monitor and my 1.7ghz processor is running at i think 598mhz
[01:30] <polpak> sskroeder, which a quick restart should fix
[01:30] <jmg> #41678
[01:30] <vaaX> is there a command for ther terminal to get your cd drive to open????
[01:30] <_jason> gn0m3: I know some things, what is giving you trouble?
[01:30] <daddius> is this actually possible
[01:31] <vaaX> is it?
[01:31] <vaaX> idk
[01:31] <sskroeder> polpak, the guy that did this didn't do anything to the data on the webserver - instead he/she commandeered 20 of our machines and used them to DDOS some servers in Spain ...
[01:31] <vader> is there a dapper channel?
[01:31] <_jason> vader: /topic
[01:31] <gn0m3> _jason: i want to add a picture to my profile
[01:31] <Talldave2002> bimberi just copied the iesetup.exe from the .wine and renamed the old .wine file and teying to install again, fingers crossed!
[01:31] <gn0m3> _jason: but when i add the pic it doesnt show
[01:31] <polpak> sskroeder, ok now we're talking
[01:31] <_jim_> jobezone, gnomefreak /etc/sources.list  >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12955
[01:32] <jobezone> _jim_: there is another option, which is to get the .deb file from http://packages.ubuntu.com , and forcefully install it using 'sudo dpkg -i --force-all <package.deb>'
[01:32] <jmg> vader: #ubuntu+1
[01:32] <vaaX> is there a command for ther terminal to get your cd drive to open?
[01:32] <polpak> sskroeder, the reason nothing was done to the data is most likely because nothing could be done... the apache user generally doesn't have write access to much (if anything)
[01:32] <_jason> gn0m3: ok, you go to tools > accounts and modify the account, then you choose the pic.  Does it show there?
[01:32] <rustlerharv> vaaX: eject
[01:32] <_jim_> jobezone, u think i should do this ?
[01:32] <daddius> also this is a notebook computer
[01:32] <bimberi> daddius: it is on speedstep laptops
[01:32] <vaaX> thx
[01:32] <gnomefreak> _jim_: wait on that i have a feeling about something
[01:32] <Datatec> kingspawn: running hdcpdiscover on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval; ... No dhcpoffers received.   no working leases in persisten databse sleeping
[01:33] <Elazar> Just a shout out to all those who take the time to help others, thank you. Between the wiki and this channel, there hasn't been an issue with Ubuntu yet that I haven't been able to see through with your help. :)
[01:33] <gn0m3> when i add the pic
[01:33] <gn0m3> nothing comes up
[01:33] <daddius> bimberi, what is speed step?
[01:33] <gn0m3> is it b/c my main is aim
[01:33] <sskroeder> polpak, it was done using a badly configured apacheserver - and a non-secure conf of php - in conjunction with some just-released vunerability (i haven't got all the details yet)...
[01:33] <gnomefreak> ok change that i know what issue is i think
[01:33] <sphex> hmm. do you think you can install Ubuntu if booting with only 64MB/RAM?
[01:33] <jmg> elazar thats great
[01:33] <bimberi> daddius: my centrino nb will slow the processor speed when it doesn't have much to do - a powersaving feature
[01:33] <kingspawn> Datatec: hm, what kind of ips are you using on you rlocal network? we can try setting it up static
[01:33] <gnomefreak> _jim_: is that your sources.list file? do you have net access?
[01:33] <jmg> sphex possible but it will be very slow
[01:33] <simonpca> plop
[01:33] <daddius> bimberi, this is my first laptop system
[01:33] <_jason> gn0m3: what type of pic is it? it needs to have special properties
[01:33] <cafuego> sphex: Yes, but only install the base system, not Gnome or KDE.
[01:34] <sphex> alright. thanks.
[01:34] <bimberi> daddius: nice, aren't they :)
[01:34] <gn0m3> like what
[01:34] <_jason> gn0m3: try using this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuddyIcon and if that works, we know it is your pic and can work on that
[01:34] <polpak> sskroeder, ok, well chrooting apache would certainly prevent that sort of nonsense if apache were to get compromised
[01:34] <timlinux> when I start my gnome session (ubuntu dapper) I get a 'you need to be root' message when gnome-updater applet tries to launch. Does anyone know the cure for that?
[01:34] <_jim_> gnomefreak, net access ?
[01:34] <daddius> bimberi, thanks so much... i figured this was a serious problem for a minute...   so i guess the more i load on it the faster it goes in mhz
[01:34] <sskroeder> polpak, but i was told that the attack generated a steady flow of 600 MB/s targeted towards the victims ... more or less draining the facultys bandwidth ;-/
[01:34] <jobezone> _jim_: yep, you've only been installing packages from the CD, right?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> _jim_: i would like you to put a # infront of the deb vdrom repo and take the # away from all the other lines that start with deb
[01:34] <_jim_> jobezone, yes ....
[01:35] <gnomefreak> _jim_: can you connect to the internet?
[01:35] <daddius> bimberi, sweet man... i expected so much problems and it worked just great..
[01:35] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  of course
[01:35] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  like right now
[01:35] <bimberi> daddius: that's right - start up OpenOffice and see if it changes
[01:35] <gnomefreak> s/vdrom/cdrom
[01:35] <jobezone> _jim_: eheh _)
[01:35] <jobezone> _jim_: eheh :)
[01:35] <gnomefreak> _jim_: do as i posted above than type sudo apt-get update after you save and close it
[01:35] <Datatec> kingspawn: when running from the live cd I am assigned 192.168.1.103
[01:35] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  ok :) one sec
[01:36] <gn0m3> _jason
[01:36] <gn0m3> this is for buddy ucon
[01:36] <polpak> sskroeder, I think you're much better off configuring apache to run more securely (chrooted) and setting up better monitoring systems to alert you when something is wrong
[01:36] <gn0m3> im talking about a pic in the actual pro
[01:36] <gnomefreak> _jim_: leave the wine repo alone for now
[01:36] <kingspawn> Datatec: do you know the ip address of your router/switch (the gateway)
[01:36] <kingspawn> Datatec: and your dns servers?
[01:36] <polpak> sskroeder, then trying to hand patch it whenever there's a security release. The normal updates are pretty quick
[01:36] <sos> hi
[01:37] <_jason> gn0m3: what do you mean by pro?
[01:37] <_jim_> gnomefreak, sorry but i dont see vdrepo
[01:37] <gn0m3> my buddy profile
[01:37] <_jim_> gnomefreak, vdrom *
[01:37] <gn0m3> you know how u right click and say read profile
[01:37] <gnomefreak> _jim_: cdrom
[01:37] <sskroeder> polpak, ok
[01:37] <gnomefreak> its the very very first one
[01:37] <_jason> gn0m3: yes, ``get info'' in gaim right?
[01:37] <bimberi> daddius: some speedstep info - http://www.intel.com/support/processors/mobile/pm/sb/CS-007981.htm
[01:37] <jobezone> gnomefreak: he's CD could be damaged, but nevertheless, the locales package is broken and in his system, and wont let got, unless it's removed or another package forcefully installed instead of it.
[01:37] <gn0m3> yes siree
[01:37] <daddius> bimberi, doesn't seem to move
[01:38] <Datatec> kingspawn: 192.168.1.2   or 192.168.1.0   I think
[01:38] <_jim_> gnomefreak, add #at the first and remove all the other DEB ones ?
[01:38] <eneried> hello people
[01:38] <_jason> gn0m3: afaik pics don't go in there, you can ask in #gaim though
[01:38] <gnomefreak> jobezone: im hopping apt-get update will work if not lets go with apt-get -f
[01:38] <gnomefreak> _jim_: yes and leave the wine repo alone for now
[01:38] <sskroeder> polpak, so instead of having ubuntu handling the apache installation - i should install from source - in a chrooted env ? - and hand-patch when sec.releases come ?
[01:38] <Cedric77>   gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad: Depends: libwavpack0 (>= 4.3) but it is not going to be installed
[01:38] <Cedric77> E: Broken packages
[01:38] <eneried> i need help again, i belive you think "that girl always looking for help"
[01:38] <Cedric77> anyway to fix that?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> jobezone: if they dont work we go back to the locales commands they should work now
[01:39] <Datatec> kingspawn: yes other computer says default 192.168.1.2
[01:39] <polpak> sskroeder, no
[01:39] <gn0m3> thanks
[01:39] <bimberi> daddius: try the "CPU Frequence Scaling Monitor" panel applet (right-click -> Add to Panel)
[01:39] <gnomefreak> Cedric77: please use pastebin to paste dont paste in here
[01:39] <polpak> sskroeder, you should use the ubuntu packages and just run apache chrooted
[01:39] <daddius> bimberi, ahhh i can see now... how could I increase this if need be ?
[01:39] <kingspawn> Datatec: thats the route then. have you got the dns servers?
[01:39] <sskroeder> polpak, ok
[01:39] <eneried> Cedric77, try to add multiverse to tour repository
[01:39] <Cedric77> !pastebin
[01:39] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:39] <Cedric77> eneried:  i did
[01:39] <bimberi> daddius: that i don't know sorry
[01:39] <_jim_> gnomefreak, ok done
[01:39] <jobezone> gnomefreak: sure. and if that doesn't work, he can download http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/locales_2.3.5-1ubuntu12_all.deb and then do 'sudo dpkg -i --force-all <package.deb>'
[01:40] <_jim_> gnomefreak, ill run now which command ?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> _jim_: did you run apt-get update?
[01:40] <eneried> i need help for two things i'm migrating a windows app to lubuntu, is java based so i need to set only a few things more...
[01:40] <Datatec> kingspawn: yes, however they are being listed already in route
[01:40] <eneried> how can i make something like a .bat file?
[01:40] <WS_> I can't uninstall remove phpmyadmin with apt-get
[01:40] <gn0m3> dammit
[01:40] <kingspawn> Datatec: your dns servers are listed in route?
[01:40] <gn0m3> how do i register in gaim
[01:40] <jmg> eneried: use bash scripting
[01:40] <Datatec> kingspawn: yes
[01:40] <eneried> Cedric77, go to restricted formats and install what thet say there
[01:40] <WS_> 'subprocess pre-removal script returned error exist status 127'
[01:40] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  hmm many errors about the websites
[01:40] <kingspawn> Datatec: what are they?
[01:40] <_jason> gn0m3: what do you mean?
[01:41] <eneried> ubotu tell Cedric77 about mp3
[01:41] <gnomefreak> gn0m3: you register with the client you want to connect to
[01:41] <gn0m3> it says u have to register
[01:41] <_jason> !register
[01:41] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:41] <Talldave2002> bimberi is there any way i can completely remove wine, only it seems to remember settings from previous istall
[01:41] <gn0m3> how do i register
[01:41] <Datatec> kingspawn: sorry in resolv.conf
[01:41] <Cedric77> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12956
[01:41] <gnomefreak> _jim_: did sudo apt-get update error?
[01:41] <Cedric77> here :D
[01:41] <sskroeder> polpak, i thank you for your input *S* ...
[01:41] <gn0m3> thanks
[01:41] <daddius> bimberi, i can see it now... thanks.  The thing is how would i be able to move it up and down if need be..  this is strange cause when i did come cpu intensive things, they seemed fine
[01:41] <kingspawn> Datatec: Aha, good. So, if you type "ifconfig" what is your ip listed as?
[01:41] <Datatec> kingspawn: 24.153.23.66 and .67
[01:41] <_jim_> gnomefreak, ... could not retrive blabla
[01:42] <gnomefreak> _jim_: paste it all to pastebin please
[01:42] <_jim_> gnomefreak, resolve*
[01:42] <_jim_> ok
[01:42] <gnomefreak> ty
[01:42] <bimberi> daddius: it should happen automatically - i trust the kernel devs :) - but idk if there is a utility to keep it at max, there might be
[01:42] <Cedric77> i know about restricted format
[01:42] <bimberi> Talldave2002: how did you install it?
[01:42] <Cedric77> seems like broken package or something i dont know
[01:42] <jobezone> gnomefreak: maybe he should use 'apt-setup' to get a fresh sources.list file. But I'm not sure if ubuntu likes it, or if it's a debian-specific tool.
[01:42] <Cedric77> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12956 i paste what i did there
[01:43] <der0b> lol...  ok.. i installed the last 2 linux gazette publications with apt..  how the hell do I read them???
[01:43] <gnomefreak> jobezone: ive never used it on ubuntu but let me find out ;)
[01:43] <daddius> bimberi, does yours increase on cpu intensive things?  i mean everything here is running great and i am loading it down with all sorts of stuff
[01:43] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12957
[01:43] <Datatec> kingspawn: no listing for inet addr :(
[01:43] <scorchsaber> der0b- they are downloaded to a dir, can't remember what. Let me check
[01:43] <der0b> thanks scorchsaber
[01:43] <___gn0m3___> can someone give me the gaim channel again
[01:43] <jobezone> der0b: you can allways see what files where installed by a package in synaptic. Choose the package, and in the pane bellow, there is a way to see 'installed files'.
[01:43] <jmg> der0b: you can check where they are by dpkg -L packagename
[01:43] <bimberi> daddius: yes - the panel applet usually changes on mine
[01:44] <kingspawn> Datatec: okay. have you tried setting your ip static in system->admin->networking?
[01:44] <gleesond> where is the script that overwrights my /etc/resolv.conf
[01:44] <jobezone> der0b: but I think it's somewhere in /usr/share/doc/
[01:44] <gnomefreak> _jim_: that pc is connected to internet?
[01:44] <gleesond> I need to make it stop
[01:44] <_jim_> gnomefreak, yes
[01:44] <osotogari> anyone know how to "eject" my ipod out of rythmebox?
[01:44] <___gn0m3___> _jason: can i have the link for the channel agiain
[01:44] <gnomefreak> thats not pretty
[01:44] <_jason> ___gn0m3___: #gaim
[01:44] <scorchsaber> der0b: /usr/share/doc/lg/
[01:44] <daddius> bimbery, again thanks again i just saw it jump to 1.70mhz
[01:44] <Datatec> yes :( didn't seem to work
[01:44] <scorchsaber> Thats where it should be
[01:44] <daddius> opps ghz
[01:44] <der0b> thanks for those tips..  HUGE help..  I've been wondering how to locate that info
[01:44] <Datatec> kingspawn: yes :( didn't seem to work
[01:44] <___gn0m3___> thanks
[01:44] <Talldave2002> bimberi installed a deb
[01:44] <gnomefreak> _jim_: run sudo apt-setup
[01:44] <Cedric77> god thats sucks
[01:44] <ironman> Hmm, shouldn't kubuntu be able to read NTFS from the beginning?
[01:44] <bimberi> daddius: i was going to say :P
[01:45] <kingspawn> Datatec: okay. do "dmesg | grep eth0" and tell me about it
[01:45] <sphex> ok, generic question: I got a small disk (2GB). what FS would be recommend?
[01:45] <daddius> bimberi, excuse the type of name... again i am on laptop system..
[01:45] <daddius> typo
[01:45] <_jim_> gnomefreak, i should put the cd ?
[01:45] <sskroeder> polpak, i was just thinking -- i'm in doubt whether i can properly chroot the apache install ... the apache installation should also be able to get files from /home/{user}/www_public - so that http://our-server/~{user} works ... will that be possible in a chrooted env ?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> _jim_: no
[01:45] <jmg> sphex: does it need to be read by any other computers?
[01:45] <BockBilbo> hey
[01:45] <ironman> Hmm
[01:45] <sphex> jmg: nah
[01:45] <daddius> bimberi, sweet sweet
[01:45] <gnomefreak> _jim_: is it asking for cd?
[01:45] <jobezone> _jim_: the problem is that each line has a dot (.) which must be deleted, like 'deb http://.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted'
[01:45] <_jim_> gnomefreak, yes
[01:45] <eneried> somebody knows how to make something like a .bat file?
[01:45] <BockBilbo> is there any option in apt-get to just download the packages but not install them?
[01:45] <jmg> sphex: ext3
[01:45] <gnomefreak> _jim_: than yes pout cd in
[01:45] <jmg> eneried: use bash scripting
[01:45] <gleesond> does anyone know how to stop my resolv.conf from being over written every time I reboot?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> put
[01:45] <WS_> eneried look up bash scripting
[01:45] <bimberi> Talldave2002: sudo aptitude purge wine
[01:45] <jmg> !google bash howto
[01:45] <ubotu> jmg: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:45] <go1dfish> Results for bash howto on Google:
[01:45] <go1dfish> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[01:45] <go1dfish> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/
[01:45] <go1dfish> http://www.gilesorr.com/<b>bash</b>prompt/<b>howto</b>/book1.html
[01:45] <go1dfish> --
[01:46] <sphex> jmg: ok. I was thinking of maybe Reiser with tail packing?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> goldeagle: do not paste in here
[01:46] <kingspawn> eneried: what do you need the script to do?
[01:46] <jobezone> _jim_: http://.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu should be http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ( no dot(.) after http:// )
[01:46] <gnomefreak> look for abs guide in repos for the bash searching people
[01:46] <_jim_> jobezone, oh.. lol
[01:46] <Datatec> kingspawn: four lines      line 1 irq 12    rest of the lines end with eth0:  link is not ready
[01:46] <eneried> i need to launch a java application using some parameters
[01:46] <Talldave2002> bimberi ok i'll try uninstalliong and go again
[01:46] <eneried> the first line sets the classpath, the second one launches the java app
[01:47] <polpak> sskroeder, no, but you can make that www_public directory a link to a directory in the chroot jail so apache has the right files, but the user still finds it in their home directory
[01:47] <gleesond> whats the default runlevel
[01:47] <gleesond> ?
[01:47] <kingspawn> Datatec: could you put the output on pastebin? need to see it
[01:47] <jmg> sphex: that would work too
[01:47] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone guys removed the dots
[01:47] <Datatec> kingspawn: it will take some time to type, but I will do it
[01:47] <kingspawn> eneried: then you edit a file, type #!/bin/bash at the first line, then your commands, and save it.
[01:47] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone install from cd or update ?
[01:47] <bimberi> BockBilbo: apt-get -d install <package>
[01:47] <gnomefreak> gleesond: what do you mean default run level?
[01:47] <kingspawn> Datatec: you can copy it with your mouse
[01:47] <BockBilbo> thanks bimberi
[01:47] <gnomefreak> update
[01:47] <kingspawn> Datatec: just hilight it, right click, and hit copy
[01:47] <gleesond> is it 3
[01:47] <gnomefreak> _jim_: update first
[01:47] <sskroeder> polpak, hmm ... ok....
[01:48] <BockBilbo> bimberi
[01:48] <BockBilbo> i guess it will work for
[01:48] <BockBilbo> dist-upgrade, righ?
[01:48] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone its updating nice now
[01:48] <BockBilbo> apt-get -d dist-upgrade
[01:48] <vader> I am trying to use SVN and the funny thing is the system don't recognize the svn command, any suggestions?
[01:48] <jmg> sphex: tail packing has a significant performance impact
[01:48] <Datatec> kingspawn: that machine is not connecting to network, I guess I could copy to a disk and transfer it
[01:48] <gnomefreak> gleesond: there is no "default" run level type runlevel to know what your using
[01:48] <eneried> thanks, kingspawn
[01:48] <gleesond> in /etc there is a bunch of rc[1-6] .d
[01:48] <BockBilbo> so i get all the packages needed for the dist-upgrade, but doesnt install them?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> _jim_: good ;)
[01:48] <gleesond> that have the boot scripts
[01:48] <WS_> I'm having big issues trying to get apt-get to remove phpmyadmin, anyone care to assist? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12958
[01:48] <Talldave2002> bimberi just sudo aptitude purge wine but i can still run wine?
[01:48] <_jim_> :D
[01:48] <shinu> anyone using splashy here?
[01:48] <bimberi> BockBilbo: i've not tried but it should
[01:48] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone install now the updates ?
[01:48] <BockBilbo> thank you so much
[01:48] <polpak> sskroeder, the exploit that was used in this previous incedent..  How old was the vulnerablity at that time?
[01:48] <kingspawn> Datatec: ah, of course, i forgot :/
[01:49] <shinu> ive got this weird problem and now at bootup and shutdown i just get a black screen
[01:49] <eneried> i have another question
[01:49] <jobezone> _jim_: yes, run 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[01:49] <gnomefreak> gleesond: there is no such thing as a default run level it will use any from 2-6 iirc they are all multi person
[01:49] <_jim_> jobezone, upgrade or install ?
[01:49] <polpak> sskroeder, the reason I ask is properly configuring a chrooted environment, particuarly one with access to many outside services (mail, databases, etc), can be very difficult unless you're experienced with the process
[01:49] <jobezone> _jim_: or do it graphically, of course
[01:49] <gnomefreak> _jim_: upgrade
[01:50] <jobezone> _jim_: the graphical window you got does the same...
[01:50] <sphex> jmg: that box WILL BE slow no matter what. :p~
[01:50] <bimberi> Talldave2002: do you have another copy about that was installed using another method? otherwise try 'sudo apt-get remove --purge wine'
[01:50] <jmg> gnomefreak: for debian and derived distros the default runlevel is 2
[01:50] <sskroeder> polpak, i don't know -- i haven't been fully briefed yet - i started on the job just 2 weeks ago ...
[01:50] <eneried> i need to place an alias to a folder, imagin teh folder was /windows/disk1/folder and i need to make it works like /folder
[01:50] <_jim_> jobezone, ill do from terminal :-)
[01:50] <jobezone> _jim_: but maybe it's best to do it in the terminal, to see for errors
[01:50] <jmg> but redcrap and some others use runlevel 5
[01:50] <gnomefreak> jmp_me: its used 4 here without me changing anything
[01:50] <WS_> =(
[01:50] <bimberi> eneried: sudo ln -s /windows/disk1/folder /folder
[01:50] <_jim_> o that gonna take a little time
[01:50] <gleesond> gnomefreak: solaris is 3 and I thought that linux used a different numbering skeem
[01:50] <gnomefreak> iirc runlevel 6 is shutdown
[01:50] <jmg> sphex: might be better to use ext3 or even ext2
[01:51] <jmg> 6 is reboot iirc
[01:51] <eneried> thanks, bimberi
[01:51] <Talldave2002> bimberi seemi i have but cant find it
[01:51] <jmg> 0 is shutdown
[01:51] <gnomefreak> gleesond: your safe with 2
[01:51] <sskroeder> polpak, but i know that the servers hadn't been patched for quite a while (they were still using some  old version of apache - 1.3.27 i think)
[01:51] <jmg> maybe i got that backwards
[01:51] <bimberi> Talldave2002: 'which wine'
[01:51] <jmg> sphex: it could be the difference between slow and really fracking slow
[01:51] <gnomefreak> jmg: im fairly sure 6 is shutdown but now you got me thinking lol
[01:51] <osotogari> i am getting the following error when trying to unmount my ipod "eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument" anyone got any ideas
[01:51] <gleesond> gnomefreak: I need to edit the rc*.d so my /etc/resolv.conf doesn't get overwritten every time I reboot
[01:51] <sphex> jmg: ok
[01:51] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone it will take me about 20 - 30 minutes
[01:52] <eneried> bimberi, and you know if that solution was persistent? i mean when i reboot the machine the alias remains?
[01:52] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone it will install automatically ?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> _jim_: thats fine someone will be here if we arnt
[01:52] <gnomefreak> _jim_: it should fix it
[01:52] <bimberi> eneried: yes it will
[01:52] <sskroeder> polpak, i also think that i'll need to know more about chrooting  - the advantages and disadvantages before i choose that option ... - we do use php - we do use postgreSQL - our mail is located on another server - that also needs access to - and so forth ...
[01:52] <_harm> is some one old enough to rember talk? and if so wanne have a test session w. me?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> _jim_: if not run sudo apt-get -f install
[01:52] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone hmm ok then :)
[01:52] <jobezone> _jim_: ok... then we can only wait.. Yes, it will run on itself now. If it finishes with no errors, that means the problem is fixed.
[01:52] <BockBilbo> bye!
[01:52] <Talldave2002> bimberi i am confused, the .wine is still there
[01:52] <_jim_> bye :)
[01:53] <BockBilbo> and thanks again bimberi
[01:53] <BockBilbo> ;)
[01:53] <WS_> if I wipe out phpmyadmin manually how can I remove it from the packages list so I can reinstall?
[01:53] <jobezone> _jim_: bye, good luck!
[01:53] <bimberi> BockBilbo: np :)
[01:53] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone lol i dont go
[01:53] <GiGaHuRtZ|Arch> How do I set nautilus to use a background on every window, instead of setting it one by one?
[01:53] <ironman> Hmm
[01:53] <bimberi> Talldave2002: rm -r ~/.wine
[01:53] <gnomefreak> gleesond: man runlevel
[01:53] <gnomefreak> gleesond: it tells you there what you are looking for
[01:54] <ironman> When I installed kubunto.. I just choosed to edit the partition-table for hda... Why isn't there anything in hdb then!?
[01:54] <sskroeder> polpak, (and i think that this incident was more caused by the institute failing to update their server and php-configurations for quite a while - than by some guy using the "latest and greatest exploit")...
[01:54] <gnomefreak> _jim_: im not sure how long ill be here 4 am comes awfully fast :(
[01:54] <gleesond> gnomefreak: is runlevel 2 single user, and run level 3 multi-user
[01:54] <gnomefreak> gleesond: 2 is multiuser
[01:54] <ironman> hdb was ntfs-formatted and filled with stuff
[01:54] <_jim_> what time is there guys ?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> 2-5
[01:54] <Talldave2002> bimberi ok wine removed, is there anywhere else it could be?
[01:54] <ironman> anyone?
[01:55] <polpak> sskroeder, generally that is the case
[01:55] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone its going fast... 14 minutes left
[01:55] <bimberi> Talldave2002: only if 'which wine' returns something :)
[01:55] <polpak> sskroeder, most hacks are done by script kiddies, and the exploits have to be around for a while before such hack utilities are available
[01:56] <mithro> hi! where to I report bugs + patches too?
[01:56] <_jim_> so guys , when 6.06 comes out i can upgrade instead of formatting ?
[01:56] <d3wd> I got this CD that was supposed to be an ubuntu install cd. all it seems to do is run dr-dos
[01:56] <Talldave2002> bimberi which wine returns /usr/local/bin/wine
[01:56] <jobezone> _jim_: and it will take some more time after the packages are downloaded.
[01:56] <kingspawn> ironman: well, what do you mean?
[01:56] <darksidex> I've got Breezy installed on a Dell Latitude CPx with an ATI Rage Mobility P/M.  I followed a howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7200.html to get direct rendering, but the 'ole glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" still says no.  Any ideas?
[01:56] <jmg> anyone know if tthere is a way of removing all the packages installed after installing kubuntu-desktop?
[01:56] <polpak> mithro, depends on what has the bug?
[01:56] <kingspawn> ironman: whats the problem, clear and concise please
[01:56] <jobezone> _jim_: yes.
[01:56] <ironman> When I installed kubunto.. I just choosed to edit the partition-table for hda... Why isn't there anything in hdb then!?
[01:56] <ironman> :P
[01:56] <mithro> polpak: missing php5-mcrypt
[01:56] <eneried> kingspawn? the file like .bat wich extensin must have? and how i launch it?
[01:56] <_jim_> jobezone, only by downloading the upgrade can be done ?
[01:56] <mithro> i have a patch which readds it
[01:56] <kingspawn> ironman: have you mounted the disk?
[01:56] <ironman> I think it mounted itself
[01:56] <jmg> enereid: .sh and chmod +x then ./file.sh
[01:57] <jobezone> _jim_: yes, you'll be able to upgrade through the net.
[01:57] <kingspawn> eneried: the file can be called anything you want. make it executable: chmod +x file   running it  ./file
[01:57] <darksidex> eneried: You mean a shell script?  The extension actually doesn't matter :)
[01:57] <bpont> what's the sude command to give amule permission to write to a particular directory?
[01:57] <mithro> itps only about a 4 line change to the control files
[01:57] <_jim_> jobezone, so if i have a cd , i cant upgrade ?
[01:57] <bpont> sudo
[01:57] <Datatec> kingspawn:
[01:57] <Datatec> [  107.320189]  etg0: Davicom  DM9102/DM9102A rev 16 at 0001d200,  00:D0:09:21:92:37, IRQ 12.
[01:57] <Datatec> [  175.898443]   ADDRCONF (NETDEV_UP):  ETH0: LINK IS NOT READY
[01:57] <Datatec> [  925.436749]   ADDRCONF (NETDEV_UP):  ETH0: LINK IS NOT READY
[01:57] <Datatec> [  1071.476869]   ADDRCONF (NETDEV_UP):  ETH0: LINK IS NOT READY
[01:57] <bimberi> Talldave2002: then you still have an install - and that one will probably supercede any .deb you install (if you type 'echo $PATH' you will see that /usr/local/bin is early in the list)
[01:57] <ironman> I see hdb2 and hdb5 in media://
[01:57] <gnomefreak> Datatec: dont paste in here ever
[01:57] <eneried> kingspawn, darksidex, thanks
[01:57] <gnomefreak> Datatec: use pastebin
[01:57] <ironman> kingspawn :)
[01:57] <sskroeder> polpak, yes...   hopefully a continiously updated apache and php (with safemode on) will ensure that this does not happen again...
[01:58] <jobezone> _jim_: ?? After you have ubuntu installed, you'll allways be able to upgrade to the next version, either by downloading it's CD, or directly through the net using apt-get, synaptic, or update-manager...
[01:58] <kingspawn> ironman: that doesnt mean you have mounted them. type "mount". any info on hdb there?
[01:58] <Datatec> thanks gnomefreak what is pastebin?
[01:58] <polpak> sskroeder, and using a package / update manager like aptitude make it much easier to keep things up to day
[01:58] <darksidex> Datatec: see the channel topic.
[01:58] <ironman> hm, ok
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Datatec about pastebin
[01:58] <polpak> sskroeder, date rather
[01:58] <sskroeder> polpak, although i wonder if chrooting is the right tool for me (with db, php and mail dependancies)
[01:58] <gnomefreak> Datatec: see your pm
[01:58] <_jim_> jobezone, oo... ok.. by running it after i logged in ?
[01:58] <polpak> sskroeder, it is more difficult, but not impossible
[01:58] <gnomefreak> _jim_: ill be here let me know what happens
[01:58] <cva> I have a driver attached to a usb device, but throughout the day, the system seems to reset the usb devices, which causes my driver connection to be lost. http://pastebin.com/683323
[01:58] <darksidex> gnomefreak: That's a cool bot :P
[01:58] <mithro> ahh launchpad.net
[01:59] <Talldave2002> bimberi /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[01:59] <_jim_> gnomefreak, ok mate :D thanks
[01:59] <jobezone> _jim_: But the next version is still not here yet...
[01:59] <cva> any idea as to why that happens?
[01:59] <_jim_> gnomefreak, 10 min left
[01:59] <ironman> yea kingspawn
[01:59] <_jim_> jobezone, yea..
[01:59] <ironman> oh
[01:59] <ironman> ./dev/hdb2 on /media/hdb2 type ntfs (rw)
[01:59] <polpak> sskroeder, the question is, will the risk reduction benifits outweigh the implementation cost (time)
[01:59] <ironman> ./dev/hdb5 on /media/hdb2 type ntfs (rw)
[01:59] <kingspawn> Datatec: this is a tough nut to crack.
[01:59] <bimberi> Talldave2002: if you remember how you installed it there might be an uninstall option.  Otherwise you could just delete or rename (eg. 'sudo mv /usr/local/bin/wine /usr/local/bin/badwine')
[01:59] <d3wd> if I get an authentic ubuntu install cd, will there be instructions going on when I boot the cd?
[01:59] <kingspawn> ironman: well, are they the partitions you are looking for
[01:59] <ironman> that's what I see
[01:59] <ironman> I guess so
[01:59] <bpont> what's the sudo command to give amule (or any program) permission to write to a particular directory?
[01:59] <polpak> d3wd, yes, the install process is pretty straight forward
[02:00] <ironman> or
[02:00] <ironman> Hmmm
[02:00] <polpak> d3wd, are you planning to dual boot, or just go whole hog?
[02:00] <ironman> good question
[02:00] <sskroeder> polpak, still - i need to have an overview over the advantages of having the chroot-jail in effect... and compare them to the added effort to keep things up-to-date ..
[02:00] <Xenguy> d3wd: installation has gotten much easier in any case - I say burn you own iso and go for it :-)
[02:00] <d3wd> polpak: That's what I thought.
[02:00] <d3wd> polpak: whole hog
[02:00] <ironman> there was 2 partitions in hdb, so doesn't that make sense?
[02:00] <d3wd> I already repartitioned the hard drive
[02:00] <bimberi> Talldave2002: yes a wine installed by a .deb is /usr/bin/wine (iirc) so it will be superceded by /usr/local/bin/wine
[02:00] <Xenguy> d3wd: even easier
[02:00] <kingspawn> ironman: yes..
[02:00] <polpak> sskroeder, keeping things up to date isn't the issue. it's the difficulty setting it up initially. You'll still be using the normal packages for the most part
[02:01] <polpak> d3wd, then you should be fine
[02:01] <ironman> damn, so the installer formatted them or something?
[02:01] <r0xoR> hias yeall
[02:01] <d3wd> I think I just got a crappy CD. I'm downloading the live CD x86 version right now.
[02:01] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, hey, u thar?
[02:01] <Talldave2002> bimberi just moved it, which wine no returns nothing will try again
[02:01] <Datatec> thanks for all your help kingspawn got to pick someone up. :) perhaps I will try again later :))
[02:01] <kingspawn> Datatec: too bad we couldnt figure this one out
[02:01] <Xenguy> d3wd: good for checking hardware compatibility
[02:01] <eneried> how can i start a tty session in a remote machine?
[02:01] <bimberi> Talldave2002: kk - good luck - i will be away for a while :)
[02:02] <Talldave2002> bimberi thank you so much for your help
[02:02] <Datatec> kinsgpawn yes :(
[02:02] <sskroeder> polpak,  (so after the initial setup - i would still be able to update the installation by using apt-get update ?  --- and not having to move around files and dirs afterwards ?? )
[02:02] <bpont> no sudo gurus in here?  do i have to boot into fucking windoze again?
[02:02] <concept10> bpont, no need to curse
[02:02] <jobezone> bpont: if you run amule as a user, it will have the same permissions as you do as a user. The best way for you to make amule write into some directory, is to change the permisions of that directory, so that you, and amule, can write into it. That, or you can run amule as root (using 'sudo amule') but that is not a good thing, don't do it!
[02:02] <Xenguy> bpont: you shouldn't need to change permissions in the first place IIUC
[02:03] <FearMoth> how can I add or remove places from the gnome "Places" menu ?
[02:03] <Xenguy> bpont: BTW they're picky about language in this #
[02:03] <__mikem> Hey, when I go to display options in kde, I can't get screen resolutions higher than 1024x768 but I am capable of runing at 1280x1024 in gnome, is there a config file I could modify to fix this problem, if so, just tell me where it is
[02:03] <eneried> how can i log using ssh into a remote machine?
[02:03] <__mikem> o my, I didn't realize that that question was so long
[02:03] <jobezone> FearMoth: In nauituls, the 'Places' menu has a edit option, I think.
[02:03] <ironman> kingspawn: when I try to enter those partitions, it says something like "cannot enter the catalog /media/hdb2
[02:03] <__mikem> sorry
[02:03] <Xenguy> eneried: ssh -l userid remotehost
[02:04] <sskroeder> eneried, ssh {useraccount}@{host}
[02:04] <eneried> ;)
[02:04] <eneried> thanks
[02:04] <FearMoth> jobezone: it just brings up the "Edit Menus" dialog but there's no Places on there
[02:04] <kingspawn> ironman: interesting. ls -l /media   and paste the output to pastebin
[02:04] <_jim_> hey guys , is there a way to make something like a shortcut for wine apps ?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> _jim_: launchers
[02:05] <polpak> sskroeder, yes
[02:05] <polpak> sskroeder, but the setup can be rather involved
[02:05] <_jim_> gnomefreak, ah i see
[02:05] <_jim_> gnomefreak, hmm ill try to make one :)
[02:05] <bpont> jobezone, so do i use chown or chmod to add permission to a directory?
[02:05] <__mikem> same way you create shortcuts to normal programs, just make sure the specified commandline is prefixed with the wine command
[02:05] <ironman> sorry kingspawn, but i'm kinda retardet in linux :P
[02:05] <Xenguy> bpont: chmod = change mode
[02:05] <d3wd> this download from ubuntu.com is the fastest download I have ever experienced with my connection
[02:05] <gnomefreak> _jim_: you can make a launcher that will do something like wine file.exe  click the icon and it will run that command
[02:05] <Xenguy> bpont: i.e. change permission
[02:05] <jobezone> FearMoth: ah, you mean to change the other options in the Places menu on the top bar?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> _jim_: or any command you use
[02:05] <FearMoth> jobezone: yeah
[02:05] <Xenguy> bpont: chown = change owner
[02:06] <kingspawn> ironman: well, how do you mount these disks?
[02:06] <sskroeder> polpak, ok ... thanks ... i'm grateful for your answers .... I'll look into it tomorrow .. right now - i'm heading off to bed - it's just passed 2 AM here ;-))
[02:06] <Xenguy> bpont: so, the first IIUC
[02:06] <polpak> sskroeder, ok good luck =)
[02:06] <FearMoth> jobezone: like I want to add "Music" or "Videos" to places
[02:06] <_jim_> gnomefreak, hmm i made one but aint working
[02:06] <bpont> Xenguy, the chmod man file says it's how you change permission for a file...but does it work on a directory too?
[02:06] <ironman> How I mount them? kingspawn
[02:06] <jono> hi all
[02:07] <polpak> gnomefreak, lol just make a script at that point =p
[02:07] <Xenguy> bpont: yes
[02:07] <gnomefreak> polpak: i did ;)
[02:07] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:07] <kingspawn> ironman: put my nick at the front of the sentence, makes it easier for me to see you. yes, how do they automagically appear?
[02:07] <jono> I made an fglrx package and now I cant uninstall it, it tells methere is a mismatch on a divert-to - any ideas?
[02:07] <bpont> Xenguy, so chmod 777 should do it, right?
[02:07] <jobezone> FearMoth: In nautilus, switch the left side bar to show Places
[02:07] <_jim_> gnomefreak, isnt that command right ? : /home/jimoupas/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/mIRC/mirc.exe
[02:07] <gnomefreak> _jim_: with wine you may need to write a script and run the script with the icon
[02:07] <_jim_> gnomefreak, OMG
[02:07] <polpak> bpont, uhh.. what directory?
[02:07] <pablo_> hi! i have 2 nicsin my system.. ltspadmin genereted a dhcp.conf file but dhcpd gives an error on startup :(
[02:07] <bpont> on my windoze partition
[02:07] <polpak> bpont, you probably don't want 777
[02:07] <pablo_> how do i  explictly tell dhcpd what interfaces to listen to on startup
[02:07] <pablo_> ?
[02:07] <_jim_> gnomefreak, lol i forgot to put some things there ! lol
[02:07] <gnomefreak> _jim_: wine mirc.exe   or however the caps are
[02:08] <jobezone> FearMoth: then drag your folders to it to create shortcuts in that menu. Also, Gnome file dialogs also allow you to do this.
[02:08] <Xenguy> bpont: that's wide open, most likely too much so -- you want something like chmod 700 or 770
[02:08] <polpak> bpont, that'd allow any user on linux to write to the directory
[02:08] <bpont> polpak, i just want my amule to be able to d/l to a directory on my windoze partition
[02:08] <_jim_> gnomefreak, WOW it really rocks
[02:08] <ironman> kingspawn: now I dont really understand you.. But they exist in /media and /dev.. But i cant enter em in media.. and in /dev they are empty
[02:08] <gnomefreak> _jim_: as long as you know the command to launch an app from term you can make an icon for it
[02:09] <ironman> I havn't mounted them or anything
[02:09] <kingspawn> ironman: do "cat /etc/fstab" - do they show up there?
[02:09] <jobezone> bpont: what filesystem does that partition use?
[02:09] <bpont> jobezone, fat
[02:09] <NickGarvey> is it safe to clear out syslog.?.gz?
[02:09] <_jim_> gnomefreak, make an icon ? how
[02:09] <ironman> kingspawn: yes
[02:09] <ironman> they do
[02:09] <FearMoth> thanks jobezone
[02:09] <jobezone> bpont: ok, so it's easier for you to make that partition writable by users by default.
[02:09] <gnomefreak> _jim_: icon =launcher
[02:09] <_jim_> gnomefreak, ^ _ ^
[02:10] <kingspawn> ironman: okay, give me one(1) line from that /etc/fstab
[02:10] <bpont> jobezone, ok...what's the command\
[02:10] <gnomefreak> _jim_: right click upper gnome panel or desktop and make custo launcher
[02:10] <_jim_> i made one :)
[02:10] <bpont> jobezone, i go into /etc/fstab?
[02:10] <_jim_> ah
[02:10] <ironman> ./dev/hdb2       /media/hdb2     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[02:10] <gnomefreak> _jim_: than you name it what you want and in the command slot you type the command you want the icon to run
[02:10] <_jim_> unpacking packages
[02:10] <saif> hello, the behaviour of my touchpad i very weird, i donno wha tis happening exactly, it was working great in breezy!
[02:10] <ironman> kingspawn: /dev/hdb2       /media/hdb2     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[02:11] <saif> anything new i should know about in dapper to control it??
[02:11] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone  omg
[02:11] <jobezone> bpont: yes, and add user
[02:11] <gnomefreak> _jim_: it work?
[02:11] <_jim_> gnomefreak, jobezone  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:11] <_jim_> damn
[02:11] <gnomefreak> good
[02:11] <gnomefreak> _jim_: yay
[02:11] <_jim_> gnomefreak,  ?
[02:11] <_jim_> lol
[02:11] <gnomefreak> _jim_: sudo apt-get -f install
[02:11] <gnomefreak> _jim_: type that let me know what happens before you accesp
[02:11] <bpont> jobezone, got it...thanks
[02:11] <odin> is there a plugin for Totem to play all the main video files (even if I don't know what filetype it is)?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> accept even
[02:12] <odin> having prob with streaming vid
[02:12] <NickGarvey> is it safe to clear out syslog.?.gz?
[02:12] <_jim_> gnomefreak, the same
[02:12] <MHobbit> Has anyone here tried SmoothWall? ... is it good (in comparison to Firestarter, even)?
[02:12] <kingspawn> ironman: okay, where it says "defaults" you have to enter: "ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000"
[02:12] <ironman> kingspawn: ooh, okey
[02:12] <gnomefreak> jobezone: can you help him witht he locales commands i have to get going before it gets too late
[02:12] <ironman> to mount em?
[02:12] <polpak> !tell odin about restricted
[02:12] <gnomefreak> s/witht/with the
[02:13] <jobezone> _jim_: do this. Download this file: http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/locales_2.3.5-1ubuntu12_all.deb (it's a oficial ubuntu package of locales) and then install it, by doing 'sudo dpkg -i --force-all <package.deb>'
[02:13] <gnomefreak> jobezone: ty
[02:13] <kingspawn> ironman: just edit that /etc/fstab file, and take out "defaults" for the two hdb-partitions, and insert what I gave you
[02:14] <ironman> kingspawn: thx! I'll try it.. Throwed that windows-crap out today, so i'm kinda new in this
[02:14] <NickGarvey> if I deleted "syslog.log" would it come back when it wanted to write more stuff to it or would it flip out
[02:14] <kingspawn> ironman: no problem
[02:14] <kingspawn> NickGarvey: it'll come back
[02:15] <NickGarvey> okie
[02:15] <_jim_> jobezone, file not found it says
[02:15] <jobezone> _jim_: try another one of these dowhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fg%2Fglibc%2Flocales_2.3.5-1ubuntu12_all.deb&md5sum=cdd6bc4409e3e888e70e86c6cc9ab148&arch=all&type=mainnload links:
[02:15] <jobezone> _jim_: try another one of these dowload links http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fg%2Fglibc%2Flocales_2.3.5-1ubuntu12_all.deb&md5sum=cdd6bc4409e3e888e70e86c6cc9ab148&arch=all&type=main
[02:16] <minerale> Ok, this is just wild... all the sudden pkg-add is missing from my system
[02:16] <_jim_> jobezone, place it where ? in temp folder ?
[02:17] <jobezone> _jim_: where you want.
[02:17] <_jim_> jobezone, k
[02:17] <jobezone> _jim_: it won't clutter your desktop or anything.
[02:17] <jobezone> _jim_: if it works, you can delete it after.
[02:17] <_Bog> when I use the update manager it says there are no updates to install.  However, I'm using Firefox 1.07 and I know the version on their website is 1.5 what's up?
[02:18] <[Nige] > hi all
[02:18] <ironman> kingspawn: now it's like this /dev/hdb2       /media/hdb2     ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000        0       0
[02:19] <polpak> _Bog, 1.5 will be in the next version of ubuntu
[02:19] <_Bog> what does the update manager actually do?
[02:19] <simonpca> ++
[02:19] <_jason> _Bog: manages updates
[02:19] <jobezone> _Bog: You can install firefox from their website, alongside the main firefox. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:19] <_Bog> updates for what?
[02:19] <_jason> _Bog: for the packages installed on your system
[02:19] <ptlo> _Bog: ubuntu
[02:19] <kingspawn> ironman: just right!
[02:20] <jobezone> _Bog: bugfixes, security upgrades, and to upgrade to the next release of Ubuntu.
[02:20] <_Bog> jason: it seems misleading if it didn't update the firefox package
[02:20] <ptlo> _Bog: firefox 1.5 is not in the version of ubuntu that you're using, so update manager won't update that
[02:20] <_jason> _Bog: it uses ubuntu's online repositories
[02:20] <lx45803> Hi. I need to partition my hard drive to install a copy of windows, but Disks won't let me. Do I need to run it as root?
[02:20] <_Bog> ptlo: isn't the point of updates a new version?
[02:20] <ironman> kingspawn: still can't enter :(
[02:20] <ironman> maybe it needs a reboot?
[02:21] <polpak> lx45803, I'd suggest booting with a LiveCD and using gparted
[02:21] <kingspawn> ironman: no, no reboot
[02:21] <_jim_> jobezone, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12960
[02:21] <polpak> lx45803, cause you can't change the partition of a drive that's mounted
[02:21] <ironman> mh, okey
[02:21] <kingspawn> ironman: umount /media/hdb2 and hdb5
[02:21] <kingspawn> ironman: and then type "mount -a"
[02:22] <lx45803> polpak, can I somehow unmount it and do it without my live cd? my brother lost it.
[02:22] <ironman> WTF
[02:22] <NickGarvey> is there a way to wipe the contents of the file, but keep the file there?
[02:22] <jobezone> _jim_: by <locales.deb> you should replace with the filename you downloaded. You can start typing the filename, and then press <TAB> and it autocompletes for you.
[02:22] <Chris_Tucker> is there a command line way to list ALL debian packages that are installed?
[02:22] <NickGarvey> daemon.log is taking up 3.4MB heh
[02:23] <ironman> kingspawn: "only root can unmount /dev/hdb2 from /media/hdb2
[02:23] <NickGarvey> ironman: then use sudo
[02:23] <_jim_> jobezone, so it must be the exact name as when downloaded to be installed ?
[02:23] <ironman> oh
[02:23] <kingspawn> ironman: remember to use sudo
[02:23] <ironman> hehehe
[02:23] <_jim_> jobezone, oh my god.... the file was zero byte
[02:23] <jobezone> _Bog: every 6 months you get version upgrades. You can also use ubuntu backports, which gives newer versions of many programs, but it can't give firefox 1.5 because firefox is used in a special way in ubuntu (it's used by yelp, GNOME's help browser, for example)
[02:24] <_jim_> jobezone, stupid firefox got another file in desktop
[02:24] <jobezone> _jim_: weird
[02:24] <_jim_> jobezone, wait ill try again
[02:24] <_jim_> jobezone, same error
[02:25] <_jim_> jobezone, dpkg: error processing locales_2.3.5-1ubuntu12_all.deb.deb (--install):
[02:25] <_jim_>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[02:25] <_jim_> sorry
[02:25] <jobezone> _jim_: did you use 'sudo dpkg -i locales_2.3.5-1ubuntu12_all.deb'? Oh, and if you downloaded the .deb file to the desktop, you'll have to go to the Desktop using the terminal, by doing 'cd Desktop'
[02:26] <lx45803> is there any way to make a bootable floppy disk that I can use to partition my HD?
[02:26] <_jim_> jobezone, well i placed on a temp folder and run it by there
[02:26] <jobezone> _jim_: you put an extra .deb in there
[02:26] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: touch should work...
[02:27] <_jim_> jobezone, oh..sorry my bad
[02:27] <NickGarvey> Xenguy: to clear it?
[02:27] <NickGarvey> thought that changes timestamps
[02:27] <NickGarvey> also makes files
[02:27] <NickGarvey> that are empty
[02:27] <ironman> kingspawn: yea it worked, thx very much.. Got worried for a sec that i had losed all my data :P
[02:27] <_jim_> jobezone, guess what.....
[02:27] <_jim_> jobezone, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12961
[02:28] <dark_fibre> can i tell one breezy system's apt to check if packages have already been downloaded to /var/cache/apt on another pc? i can see the other system in nautilus, but how do i map the remote folder using the terminal?
[02:28] <_jim_> /j #jimbo
[02:28] <eggzeck> NickGarvey: it doesn't clear it, use sed.
[02:28] <jobezone> _jim_: argghh!!!
[02:28] <NickGarvey> eggzeck: sed..
[02:28] <eggzeck> NickGarvey: sed 's/.*/' <file
[02:28] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: my mistake...
[02:28] <kingspawn> ironman: no problem :)
[02:28] <NickGarvey> eggzeck: hmm, oh thanks a lot
[02:28] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: cat /dev/null > file
[02:29] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: that will clear the contents
[02:29] <eggzeck> NickGarvey: oops that's: sed 's/.*//' <file
[02:29] <_jim_> jobezone, :(
[02:29] <lx45803> is there any way to partition my HD without my live cd or a burner?
[02:29] <jobezone> _jim_: ok, let's do something. Try to uninstall the package 'locales' by doing 'sudo apt-get remove locales' . But don't confirm it. Instead, copy the output of the packages it will want to remove, and paste them in that website.
[02:29] <NickGarvey> thank you Xenguy and eggzeck (and yes I liked yours better too because I understood it ;))
[02:29] <Xenguy> heh
[02:30] <eggzeck> NickGarvey: s/// is a substitution
[02:30] <_jim_> jobezone,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12962
[02:30] <NickGarvey> eggzeck: yup, thats all I understood though heh
[02:31] <jobezone> _jim_: ok, cool, them remove them away. It will also remove a bunch of others, but it's no problem, later you can install them again.
[02:31] <_jim_> jobezone, u sure ?
[02:32] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: eggzeck is using sed to replace 'everything' with 'nothing' (.* is a regular expression -- very useful once you get it)
[02:32] <_jim_> jobezone, how i can install them later if i always get an error while installing ?
[02:32] <jobezone> _jim_: after you remove them,
[02:32] <NickGarvey> Xenguy: ah, whats the . for?
[02:32] <eggzeck> NickGarvey: the . is a wildcard
[02:32] <jobezone> _jim_: you'll clean the package archive in your disk,
[02:32] <eggzeck> NickGarvey: matches any character except new line
[02:32] <NickGarvey> eggzeck: then whats *?
[02:33] <_jim_> jobezone, ok uninstalled
[02:33] <jobezone> _jim_: no error ?
[02:33] <_jim_> jobezone, nop
[02:33] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: man regex ('.' represents any character; '*' says "zero or more instances of .")
[02:33] <_jim_> jobezone, everything ok
[02:33] <eggzeck> NickGarvey: the * is a quantifier, it means "zero or more times" (anything before it)
[02:33] <NickGarvey> oh alrighty, thank you
[02:33] <NickGarvey> both of you ;)
[02:33] <jobezone> _jim_: if not, do 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[02:33] <eggzeck> Xenguy: team work ;P
[02:34] <_jim_> jobezone, done
[02:34] <_jim_> jobezone, no confirmation
[02:34] <Coir> Can anyone help me with getting networking setup with OS X?
[02:34] <eobanb_> coir...does this look like a mac os x help channel to you?
[02:34] <_jim_> jobezone, try to install the file u told me to dl again ?
[02:34] <odin> I've gotten the w32codecs, and mozilla-mplayer, but I still can't seem to play streaming vids on websites
[02:34] <mcmcg> anybody know why /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/ would be empty after i've run ndiswrapper -i and -m ?
[02:34] <eobanb_> coir you can pm me and i'll do what i can
[02:34] <NickGarvey> odin: 32 bit system?
[02:35] <eobanb_> but this is not the channel for that question
[02:35] <jobezone> _jim_: now, install them all again, with: 'sudo apt-get install language-pack-el language-pack-el-base language-pack-en language-pack-en-base language-pack-gnome-el language-pack-gnome-el-base language-pack-gnome-en language-pack-gnome-en-base locales ubuntu-minimal'
[02:35] <odin> NickGarvey: I'm guessing so
[02:35] <NickGarvey> odin: you would know if it wasn't
[02:35] <Coir> eobanb, I am sure if I went to an OS X channel, they'd say "Does this look like an Ubuntu help channel to you?" =P
[02:35] <NickGarvey> odin: close and open firefox..
[02:35] <FearMoth> I can only get sound from a single application at a time, is there any way to let all application sounds mix?
[02:35] <_jim_> jobezone, ok downloading
[02:35] <jobezone> _jim_: no, let's install  it using apt-get and get it from the net that way.
[02:35] <odin> NickGarvey: I've done that
[02:35] <NickGarvey> odin: second let me check something
[02:36] <crimsun> FearMoth: cat /proc/asound/modules
[02:36] <eobanb_> coir, are you trying to connect an ubuntu machine and a mac together?
[02:36] <mcmcg> anybody here use ndiswrapper?
[02:36] <Coir> eobanb_, yes, I want them to be able to see one another.
[02:36] <eobanb_> coir, then that's what you should have said in the first place
[02:36] <NickGarvey> !anybody
[02:36] <ubotu> hmm... anyone is a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[02:36] <eobanb_> coir, are you trying to share files, or what?
[02:36] <Coir> eobanb_, my apologies, that's what I meant. Otherwise, I'd not have come here. Yes, file sharing.
[02:36] <NickGarvey> odin: what happens/doesn't?
[02:36] <FearMoth> crimsun: it lists 0 snd_intel8x0 and 1 saa7134_alsa (which is my tv card) .. what should I do?
[02:37] <odin> NickGarvey:  when I open it?  nothing happens.  when I try to play vid: "Totem could not play 'fd://0'."
[02:37] <ubuntu> hi anna
[02:37] <eobanb_> coir, all right.  which computer is serving the files?
[02:37] <{anna}O> +R
[02:37] <NickGarvey> odin: hmm, worked fine for me.. let me check online
[02:38] <Coir> eobanb_, I'd like both to be visible to one another - that is an option, aye?
[02:38] <odin> NickGarvey: or on this other page, it just gives me a grey box where the vid is suppose to be
[02:38] <crimsun> FearMoth: snd-intel8x0 is dmixed by default, so it supports multiple applications' sounds -- unless one of those is an oss-only app, like Flash or Skype
[02:38] <eobanb_> coir, i guess so, but the way file sharing works is one computer acts as the server, and the other acts as the client.
[02:38] <{anna}O> hi ubuntu
[02:38] <NickGarvey> odin: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer try that
[02:39] <eobanb_> coir, so you could set up file sharing on both computers so that you could connect to either one from the other, but we need to start with either the mac or the ubuntu computer first.
[02:39] <ubuntu> where are you from?
[02:39] <_Bog> I have a basic firefox install question.  I downloaded firefox 1.5.  Hod do I install it now?  I have a tar.gz file nd dont know what to do with it
[02:39] <_jim_> jobezone, lets see... 97%
[02:39] <odin> NickGarvey:  I have mplayer, though..
[02:39] <NickGarvey> odin: click it..
[02:39] <Coir> eobanb_, All right, I'd like to get the filesharing on the Ubuntu machine started first.
[02:39] <_jim_> jobezone, oh my god......
[02:40] <odin> NickGarvey:  yeah, I'm there
[02:40] <odin> NickGarvey:  this is where I went to install it in the first place, I believer..
[02:40] <jobezone> _Bog: follow this tutorial : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:40] <NickGarvey> odin: edit the file?
[02:40] <eobanb_> coir, try this
[02:40] <eobanb_> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/File_sharing_with_OS_X_using_Ubuntu_5_04
[02:40] <jobezone> _jim_: it worked?
[02:40] <_Bog> job: thanks
[02:40] <eobanb_> coir, it's slightly outdated but it should work pretty much the same way.
[02:40] <_jim_> jobezone, no
[02:41] <_jim_> jobezone, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12963
[02:41] <odin> NickGarvey:  I'm sure I did, I'll try again
[02:41] <_jim_> jobezone, man it driving me nuts
[02:41] <Coir> eobanb_, ty
[02:41] <jobezone> _jim_: me too!
[02:41] <Chris_Tucker> how would one use sed to remove all new lines from a file and change them to just spaces?
[02:41] <jobezone> _jim_: you are using Breezy, right?
[02:42] <odin> NickGarvey:  yeah, it reads vo=xv
[02:42] <_jim_> jobezone, yes
[02:42] <{anna}O> can anyone help me i have just started using ubuntu and i have allready messed my self up, is there an easy way to fix this, i set my home dir as root and no i can only log on as failsafe terminal is there anyway to set my home dir back to home so i can log on again?
[02:42] <NickGarvey> odin: no idea then, try the forums I'd say..
[02:42] <jobezone> _jim_: let me think...
[02:43] <odin> NickGarvey:  well, thanks for your help
[02:43] <NickGarvey> odin: eh I'm sorry, not to much of a gui person heh
[02:43] <jmg> Coir: This isnt #osx
[02:44] <blind> any easy way to check my WAN address?
[02:44] <eobanb_> jmg, did you even read what he wrote after that?
[02:44] <harisund> What email server do you guys suggest? I am looking at postfix,qmail, sendmail or exim.. anybody have experience with them?
[02:44] <jmg> {anna}O: what user are you logging in as? can you run sudo?
[02:44] <narker> hey
[02:45] <djs_2_6> Hey guys, what window manager do you guys use?
[02:45] <jmg> harisund: qmail sucks, sendmail is ancient... postfix or exim are both easy to configure
[02:45] <_jim_> blind, http://www.whatismyip.com/  ,  http://www.mywanip.com/
[02:45] <jmg> eobanb_: nope
[02:45] <eobanb_> djs_2_6, i think most people here just use metacity.
[02:45] <harisund> jmg: Ah I see.. thanks for that advice..
[02:45] <narker> i just installed Ubuntu, installed the ATI Driver for my  video card, X say it's running at 1200x800 (my native screen resolution) but applications looks too big
[02:45] <narker> icons too
[02:45] <blind> thanks _jim_
[02:45] <eobanb_> jmg, he was trying to share files between a mac os x and an ubuntu computer
[02:45] <_jim_> blind, no problem
[02:45] <{anna}O> jmg i was loging in as the profile i set up during the install and i dont know what sudo is
[02:45] <narker> it doesnt seem as it were 1200x800
[02:45] <djs_2_6> eobanb_ - Really?  Nothing better, or what?
[02:46] <jmg> (anna)O: how did you install?
[02:46] <eobanb_> djs_2_6, well metacity is the default in gnome, and most people on ubuntu use gnome, so i would think that's what almost everyone uses.  whether there is something 'better' out there is pretty subjective
[02:46] <{anna}O> jmg off the bootable cd
[02:46] <Xenguy> Chris_Tucker: sed -e 's/\n/ /g' file.txt > file.new.txt
[02:46] <eobanb_> djs_2_6, if you're unhappy with gnome i can recommend alternatives, though.
[02:46] <narker> any idea
[02:46] <Xenguy> Chris_Tucker: try that - does it work?
[02:46] <{anna}O> jmg just a normal gui install
[02:46] <jmg> {anna}O: you login as "ubuntu"?
[02:47] <djs_2_6> eobanb_ - I would love to hear them...
[02:47] <eobanb_> djs_2_6, well obviously the counterpart to gnome is kde.  i'm not sure how familiar you are with kde..
[02:47] <{anna}O> jmg i have not tried i did not know there were other accounts other than the one you set up in the install
[02:47] <jmg> {anna}O ok
[02:47] <djs_2_6> eobanb_ - Not very, at least recently...
[02:47] <jmg> how did you change your home directory?
[02:47] <eobanb_> djs_2_6, there's also xfce, which offers a slightly more lightweight desktop
[02:48] <eobanb_> djs_2_6, are you looking for a full desktop environment, or just a minimal window manager
[02:48] <cliche> hi
[02:48] <odin> heh heh, nice exit for alexandros
[02:48] <jobezone> _jim_: still looking :)
[02:48] <jmg> {anna}O: hmmm
[02:48] <djs_2_6> eobanb_ - I know in the future I will be able to go with less, but for now I need more of a full environment...
[02:48] <_jim_> jobezone,  ok mate
[02:48] <narker> i just installed Ubuntu, installed the ATI Driver for my  video card, X say it's running at 1200x800 (my native screen resolution) but applications looks too big
[02:49] <{anna}O> jmg i went under users accounts then clicked on my account then propites then changed my home
[02:49] <FearMoth> crimsun: so in xmms and mplayer etc what output plugin should I use so they mix?
[02:49] <jmg> ok what happens when you go there and change it back?
[02:49] <Coir> Also, does anyone know of USB wifi cards that Ubuntu is compatible with?
[02:49] <eobanb_> djs_2_6, well the other full desktop out there besides gnome is kde
[02:49] <eobanb_> djs_2_6, i invite you to try both to see which you like better
[02:49] <Xenguy> djs_2_6: I like xfce4 (light desktop manager); for even light window managers, fluxbox or icewm
[02:49] <NickGarvey> Coir: get back to me if you find an answer for that
[02:49] <cliche> Coir, I doubt there is one
[02:49] <Xenguy> s/light/ligher
[02:49] <{anna}O> i cant get there it wont let me log on gives me an error then logs me out i can only get into the fail safe termaial
[02:50] <djs_2_6> Xenguy - Is xfce also called enlightenment?
[02:50] <Xenguy> gah
[02:50] <jmg> windowmaker
[02:50] <eobanb_> djs_2_6, no
[02:50] <Xenguy> djs_2_6: no; different
[02:50] <Coir> Really? o_o
[02:50] <eobanb_> djs_2_6, e is a different window manager
[02:50] <jmg> djs_2_6: therei s a proposal to make ebuntu (ubuntu with e17)
[02:50] <Xenguy> djs_2_6: enlightenment is old now AFAIK
[02:50] <NickGarvey> djs_2_6: nope, enlightenment sure is pretty though...
[02:50] <Coir> I guess this is a Linux-wide thing, eh?
[02:50] <eobanb_> coir, there are usb wifi devices that work with ubuntu.
[02:50] <jmg> djs_2_6: you can apt-get install enlightenment from universe
[02:50] <_jim_> jobezone, mate sorry but i have to go... its very late here and tomorrow have to wake up early
[02:50] <eobanb_> Coir, just not very many
[02:50] <NickGarvey> Xenguy: I hope not.. elive is nice
[02:51] <_jim_> jobezone, will you be here tomorrow ?
[02:51] <cliche> Coir, cheap one?
[02:51] <Coir> eobanb_, and it would not make a difference if I am using PPC processor?
[02:51] <Xenguy> jmg: wmaker I have used and liked, but it is somewhat quirky I would say :-)
[02:51] <djs_2_6> I tried enlightenment, but found that I needed more of a desktop environment than that...
[02:51] <NickGarvey> its pretty though
[02:51] <eobanb_> coir, possibly, because ndiswrapper only runs on i386
[02:51] <Coir> cliche, cheap, would of course, be preferable.
[02:51] <{anna}O> jmg quick question what would the password be for the ubuntu account
[02:51] <jmg> Xenguy: feels like lightstep to me
[02:51] <jobezone> _jim_: hm... Yes, I can be here, 23 hours from now (so an hour earlier).
[02:51] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: I thought that e was dead, but I'm not really following it I admit
[02:51] <NickGarvey> haha I sound like a mac user
[02:51] <htrp> /bin/custom1 needs root access which is sudo when ran, but when you use crontab it, do you have to add sudo like: 0   *   *   *   * sudo /bin/custom1 ??
[02:51] <Fensta> hey guys.. can someone here help me on an install
[02:51] <htrp> or just: 0   *   *   *   * /bin/custom1 ?
[02:51] <cliche> Coir, you would throw it out of the windows, soon
[02:52] <Fensta> im doing a dual boot..... and for some reason it isnt giving me the option to boot into ubuntu
[02:52] <_jim_> jobezone, ok ill try to catch you :) bye
[02:52] <jobezone> _jim_: I have a username in ubuntuforums.org, jobezone
[02:52] <jmg> {anna}O: nothing, but you would only have it if you did an espresso install
[02:52] <_jim_> goodnight everyone :)
[02:52] <Fensta> so now after initiial install... it keeps loging back into xp
[02:52] <_jim_> jobezone, mine is jimoupas
[02:52] <NickGarvey> Xenguy: last post on their site apr 10th
[02:52] <foomonkey> exit
[02:52] <Fensta> is there a way to change my mbr?
[02:52] <NickGarvey> not to bad
[02:52] <Xenguy> jmg: yeah it is neat, but I switched to xfce4 some time ago - at the end of the day, whatever works :-)
[02:52] <{anna}O> jmg ah ok so any clues how i can get back in
[02:52] <jmg> {anna}O: what happens when you go back to preferences and change it back?
[02:52] <Xenguy> NickGarvey: I stand corrected
[02:52] <djs_2_6> Xenguy - So, the proposal for the enlightenment desktop environment fell away?
[02:52] <jmg> Xenguy: i should give xubuntu a try actually
[02:53] <jmg> djs_2_6: no it has only just been entered in blueprint
[02:53] <Xenguy> djs_2_6: ask NickGarvey :-)
[02:53] <jobezone> _jim_: I have MSN, yes. You can PM me in ubuntuforums.org and ask me there,
[02:53] <Xenguy> jmg: that's a good way to do it, sure
[02:53] <arun> HI
[02:53] <Chris_Tucker> how would one use sed to remove all new lines from a file and change them to just spaces?
[02:53] <_jim_> jobezone, ok goodnight
[02:53] <Aeudian> silly question but, why cant us install a game that can run nativly in OSX on linux without an emulator
[02:53] <jmg> Xenguy: hey guess what. im writing the spec for xen support in edgy
[02:53] <arun> How do you do
[02:53] <jobezone> _jim_: bye
[02:53] <jobezone> _jim_: bye!
[02:53] <{anna}O> jmg i cant get back into the gui it gives me an error $home/.drnrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored
[02:54] <Xenguy> Chris_Tucker: sed -e 's/\n/ /g' file.txt > file.new.txt    ?
[02:54] <Fensta> anyone know how to change my mbr so it gives me the option to load ubuntu instead of XP?
[02:54] <cliche> Aeudian, hahaha
[02:54] <jmg> {anna}O: can you use failsafe console?
[02:54] <cliche> Aeudian, because $$$
[02:54] <Xenguy> jmg: have fun - xen sounds awesome
[02:54] <{anna}O> jmg then it says you session only lasted 10 seconds
[02:54] <{anna}O> jmg yeah i can
[02:54] <jmg> ok
[02:54] <benoy> Hi all.  Has anyone used cygwin here?
[02:55] <NickGarvey> !any
[02:55] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[02:55] <NickGarvey> !anyone
[02:55] <ubotu> it has been said that anyone is a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[02:55] <NickGarvey> benoy: and yes I have ;)
[02:55] <Xenguy> benoy: sure, but that is windows software
[02:55] <jmg> {anna}O: what is your regular user's name?
[02:55] <e-sin> i just dist-upgraded to dapper and like 90% of my screensavers are gone.  i only care about Phosphor but i cant seem to figure out what i need to do to get them back.  any ideas?
[02:55] <{anna}O> zero
[02:55] <benoy> I know, I am running ubuntu, but trying to help a friend with cygwin
[02:55] <mseney> Fensta: best way to do it if your bios lets you select which device to boot from. I have one IDE and one SATA and I can F9 and pick either to boot install XP or Ubuntu.
[02:55] <Aeudian> cliche, yea i know =/ but what makes osx run a game differnetly then linux?
[02:55] <jinho> why cant i join another server?
[02:55] <Xenguy> e-sin: /join #ubuntu+1
[02:55] <NickGarvey> benoy: what does he need?
[02:55] <jinho> i want to join the java room...
[02:55] <mseney> Fensta: keeps them more separate, better in my opinion.
[02:56] <djs_2_6> Aeudian - Isn't OS X more *bsd based, not linux?
[02:56] <cliche> Aeudian, so? your next issue is.... mono/.not?
[02:56] <{anna}O> jmg its zero
[02:56] <benoy> he needs to connect to our school's computer so that he can do some homework
[02:56] <Xenguy> benoy: those are 2 different things my friend :-)
[02:56] <d3wd> I tried booting the live cd, and it's doing the same thing the install cd did. says "no NTFS volumes found, exiting". And then it just goes to dr-dos, rather than doing anything like run ubuntu
[02:56] <Chris_Tucker> Xenguy, not quite, that just copies the original, without removing its new lines
[02:56] <jmg> {anna}O: type "sudo usermod zero -d /home/zero"
[02:56] <benoy> but whenever he connects, and opens the program, he gets an x windows error
[02:56] <NickGarvey> benoy: ..needs cygwin for that?
[02:56] <benoy> yes for unix commands
[02:56] <NickGarvey> benoy: explain more about your schools server
[02:56] <jmg> {anna}O: then exit and retry logging in
[02:57] <ubuntu> putos
[02:57] <benoy> we are connecting to a unix server
[02:57] <Xenguy> Chris_Tucker: hrm, try \r instead of \n  (other than that, not really sure without further research)
[02:57] <benoy> which allows us to log in and run certain programs.
[02:57] <ubuntu_> hello
[02:57] <ubuntu> putos
[02:57] <NickGarvey> benoy: GUI programs?
[02:57] <benoy> yes
[02:57] <benoy> like matlab
[02:57] <ubuntu_> spanish??
[02:57] <benoy> or other engineering programs
[02:57] <Chris_Tucker> Xenguy, still nope
[02:57] <ubuntu> english?
[02:58] <NickGarvey> benoy: using xwin?
[02:58] <benoy> how do you mean?
[02:58] <cliche> lol xwin, an old old link
[02:58] <NickGarvey> benoy: do they have ssh?
[02:58] <benoy> i type in :  ssh -X username@server address
[02:58] <ubuntu_> enithing speak spnish, bitchs
[02:58] <benoy> then it asks me for the password
[02:58] <{anna}O> jmg asked me for my password then said, usermod: user /home/zero does not exist
[02:59] <ubuntu_> get out gays
[02:59] <NickGarvey> benoy: okie
[02:59] <NickGarvey> !ops
[02:59] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[02:59] <ubuntu_> fuck you
[02:59] <Xenguy> ubotu: you are out of line here
[02:59] <ubotu> Xenguy: I think you lost me on that one
[02:59] <Xenguy> bye bye
[02:59] <benoy> after logging in, I type in matlab which works fine on ubuntu but when using windows xp pro and cygwin i get an x windows error
[02:59] <NickGarvey> benoy: whats that error?
[02:59] <matt_> anybody in here good with framebuffers?
[02:59] <Amaranth> benoy: solution: use ubuntu :)
[03:00] <cliche> ubotu, are you ok?
[03:00] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cliche
[03:00] <d3wd> "no NTFS volumes found, exiting" <- anyone know how to fix this?
[03:00] <Xenguy> cliche: yes, he's gone ;-)
[03:00] <e-sin> what's the breezy package for the rest of the screensavers?
[03:00] <cliche> ...
[03:00] <NickGarvey> d3wd: are there ntfs volumes?
[03:00] <Hobbsee> e-sin: er, rss-glx?
[03:00] <Amaranth> cliche: ?
[03:01] <benoy> it says "*ERROR* X windows display initialization failure
[03:01] <cliche> Amaranth, baseball?
[03:01] <d3wd> NickGarvey: I wish I knew. That's what it says when I boot ubuntu CDs
[03:01] <jmg> {anna}O: type: ls /home
[03:01] <cliche> Amaranth, do you know baseball?
[03:01] <jobezone> e-sin: which ones are you looking for?
[03:01] <Amaranth> cliche: bad analogy, i don't know what you mean :P
[03:01] <Amaranth> cliche: a little
[03:01] <d3wd> NickGarvey: I repartitioned the harddrive. it should be blank. is this bad?
[03:01] <cliche> ...
[03:01] <NickGarvey> d3wd: ntfs is a windows file system, it seems to be looking for them, you are runnig a live cd?
[03:01] <d3wd> NickGarvey: yes
[03:02] <NickGarvey> d3wd: and when during the boot do ou get that?
[03:02] <Amaranth> cliche: I'm a geek, why would I know about baseball? :)
[03:02] <cliche> Amaranth, no comment
[03:02] <{anna}O> jgm is has the zero dir in there
[03:02] <NickGarvey> benoy: let me check.. I do the same thing you do actually
[03:02] <d3wd> after it starts running dr-dos
[03:02] <NickGarvey> benoy: cept I think use xterm or something
[03:02] <NickGarvey> benoy: and I am not running windows what am I talking about
[03:03] <cliche> Amaranth, do you mean all your life is... computers?
[03:03] <benoy> oh
[03:03] <NickGarvey> benoy: anyway.. use an xterm and then ssh maybe?
[03:03] <NickGarvey> benoy: I had the same problem
[03:03] <benoy> how do i do that?
[03:03] <benoy> What should I type in?
[03:03] <NickGarvey> benoy: xterm
[03:03] <Amaranth> cliche: computers, football, and running
[03:03] <Xenguy> cliche: I can imagine being an Ubuntu developer would take some time, yes ;-)
[03:03] <fogos> hi someone knows where are the xorg drivers?
[03:04] <babelfishi> does anyone have a netgear ma111 adapter?
[03:04] <Amaranth> Xenguy: Yeah, except I'm not really an ubuntu dev.
[03:04] <Amaranth> :)
[03:04] <benoy> when I type "xterm" I get the message: "xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
[03:04] <cliche> Amaranth, which FOOTBALL?
[03:04] <jobezone> e-sin: rss-glx is the package to install, if you're looking for the Really Slick Scrensavers
[03:04] <NickGarvey> benoy: when not sshed in
[03:04] <plex0r> my orinoco card isnt working with ubuntu am i going to have to patch kernel & modules and recompile
[03:04] <Amaranth> cliche: American
[03:04] <Xenguy> Amaranth: I thought you were -- welcome mortal ;-)
[03:04] <cliche> Amaranth, hahahaha
[03:04] <e-sin> no i just want the normal screensavers
[03:04] <Amaranth> benoy: Do you have cygwinx installed and running?
[03:04] <babelfishi> can anyone help me install my Netgear MA111 USB adapter?
[03:04] <e-sin> i have a 16mb video card
[03:04] <e-sin> TNT2 :)
[03:05] <Amaranth> Xenguy: hehe, i do side development
[03:05] <jobezone> e-sin: then it's xscreensaver and xscreensave-gl for opengl ones.
[03:05] <benoy> how do i install that?  I couldn't find that in the list of things that I could download from cygwin
[03:05] <Amaranth> Xenguy: things like alacarte and easyubuntu
[03:05] <cliche> lol, TNT is a famous cheap card
[03:05] <benoy> from the cygwin install manager
[03:05] <Xenguy> Amaranth: so I'm not completely wrong then
[03:05] <Xenguy> Amaranth: ahh, OK
[03:05] <cliche> 810 > TNT
[03:05] <Amaranth> Xenguy: and this summer getting willow into edubuntu
[03:05] <Amaranth> Xenguy: my first bit of real ubuntu development
[03:05] <Xenguy> Amaranth: nice
[03:05] <babelfishi> can anyone help me install my Netgear MA111 USB adapter?
[03:05] <Toba> what do you guys suggest for burning cds?
[03:05] <whaley> Amaranth, what is willow?
[03:06] <NickGarvey> Toba: gnomebaker or k3b
[03:06] <Toba> k
[03:06] <Toba> I'll look into it
[03:06] <Amaranth> whaley: proxy server that uses bayesian filtering (like spam filters) to filter out allowed and not allowed websites
[03:06] <Xenguy> Amaranth: if only I could get the local computer teacher to look at edbuntu (still working on it :-)
[03:06] <whaley> Amaranth, very cool!
[03:06] <{anna}O> jmg can i msg you in private so i can keep track and not miss anything you say
[03:06] <Amaranth> Toba: nautilus can burn data cds, sepentine can burn audio cds
[03:06] <whaley> i have a friend who teaches at a small charter school
[03:06] <NickGarvey> benoy: its there under X something It hink
[03:06] <whaley> with ancient windows machines
[03:06] <babelfishi> can anyone help me install my Netgear MA111 USB adapter?
[03:07] <Amaranth> whaley: I didn't write it, I'm just cleaning it up and adding a GUI.
[03:07] <whaley> i'd like to convince them to use edubuntu
[03:07] <NickGarvey> babelfishi: what have yu tried
[03:07] <babelfishi> umm
[03:07] <whaley> Amaranth, nonetheless, it is a contribution
[03:07] <babelfishi> i have tried this post on ubuntu forums
[03:07] <cliche> babelfishi, Netgear?
[03:07] <babelfishi> holdon
[03:07] <babelfishi> yeah
[03:07] <babelfishi> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111913&highlight=netgear+MA111
[03:07] <benoy> X11?
[03:07] <cliche> babelfishi, is there such brand?
[03:07] <babelfishi> um yes
[03:07] <babelfishi> i have the box next to me
[03:07] <NickGarvey> benoy: thats the noe
[03:08] <Amaranth> whaley: alacarte and easyubuntu aren't? ;)
[03:08] <NickGarvey> s/noe/one/
[03:08] <babelfishi> wait no my bad
[03:08] <benoy> I installed all of X11
[03:08] <babelfishi> its
[03:08] <babelfishi> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159383&highlight=netgear+MA111
[03:08] <benoy> but still the same prob
[03:09] <cva> I have a driver attached to a usb device, but throughout the day, the system seems to reset the usb devices, which causes my driver connection to be lost. Any idea as to what would case that? http://pastebin.com/683323
[03:09] <whaley> Amaranth, eh?  i meant to say your contribution of cleaning it up and adding a gui is still good
[03:09] <Toba> thanks
[03:09] <Toba> gnomebaker seems to be working fine
[03:10] <Amaranth> whaley: I know, I'm just (trying) to be funny.
[03:10] <whaley> oh heheh
[03:10] <farofa> oi
[03:10] <cliche> oww, thanks joker
[03:11] <babelfishi> anyone help?
[03:11] <vimusa> hi, I am looking a way to avoid the native wireless driver of mi card bein loaded on startup. Any idea?
[03:11] <liquidindian> Hello.  My dash key on my laptop is broken.  Does anyone know if I can map it to another key?
[03:12] <SoulPropagation> liquidindian: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:12] <liquidindian> SoulPropagation, glad I've got copy and paste :)
[03:12] <sphex> fsck! it started installing all the gnome stuff on my 2GB partition! :/
[03:12] <SoulPropagation> liquidindian: ;)
[03:12] <Khisanth> liquidindian: ctrl+shift+2d works in gtk apps
[03:13] <NickGarvey> sphex: may that install rest in peace :)
[03:13] <sphex> aaaaaaaaaaaargh
[03:13] <benoy> when I type in xterm, I get the following message:  Xterm:  DISPLAY is not set.  How do I set it?
[03:13] <babelfishi>  can anyone help me install my Netgear MA111 USB adapter?
[03:13] <NickGarvey> benoy: xterm :1 I assume
[03:13] <sphex> alright. ok. now staying calm. deep breaths...
[03:14] <benoy> i get the same message
[03:14] <NickGarvey> benoy: you installed all of that? and you are _not_ sshed into anything
[03:15] <fensta> hey guys.. if I am doing a dual boot ... XP already installed... which do I set as bootable.. the xp partition or the linux
[03:15] <jobezone> babelfishi: did you eventually install linux-wlan-ng ?(looking at your thread in ubuntuforums)
[03:15] <fensta> assuming I am gonna install grub to the mbr
[03:15] <babelfishi> yeah
[03:15] <babelfishi> i did
[03:15] <plex0r> yeah...if anyone can help me just pm me
[03:15] <benoy> well when I type ssh without the -X i get a list of options, but there is not capital X option
[03:15] <sethk> plex0r, with what?
[03:15] <babelfishi> jobezone: it still doesn't work
[03:15] <plex0r> my orinoco card isnt working with ubuntu am i going to have to patch kernel & modules and recompile
[03:15] <sphex> ok I guess I missed something. where do I need to change something during installation to NOT install gnome and stuff?
[03:16] <NickGarvey> benoy: don't ssh in
[03:16] <NickGarvey> fensta: I'd do linux.. but it doesn't really matter now a day if I recall
[03:16] <sethk> plex0r, ok, but I still don't see a question
[03:16] <sphex> benoy: what about the manpage?
[03:16] <fensta> well I did a fresh install and now I am not getting the option to load into ubuntu :\
[03:16] <Xenguy> sphex: there is a 'server-only' install option during install AFAIK
[03:16] <cliche|BSchi> hahaha, no questions
[03:16] <jobezone> babelfishi: and did you try adding the module, using 'modprobe prism2_usb'
[03:16] <NickGarvey> sphex: do a server install
[03:16] <plex0r> am i going to have to patch kernel and modules and recompile to get the orinoco card to work.
[03:16] <babelfishi> ..no
[03:17] <babelfishi> should i type that in?
[03:17] <SoulPropagation> Is there a way I can install without using the install CD? (powerpc)
[03:17] <sphex> ok. when will it ask for it?
[03:17] <babelfishi> jobezone: should i type that in?
[03:17] <Xenguy> sphex: don't recall
[03:17] <Xenguy> sphex: google it
[03:17] <sphex> alright. thanks.
[03:17] <NickGarvey> !tell SoulPropagation about netboot
[03:17] <konfuzed> hey there, how do I run (what command + where do I find it) the vnc client to connect to someone elses vnc server
[03:17] <MrProper__> hey all, is there anyway to use tar to compare an archive to a file system to also show NEWLY created files?
[03:18] <jobezone> babelfishi: yes, with a sudo. This will add that module, if it exists.
[03:18] <benoy> the man page talks about the -X option
[03:18] <babelfishi> jobezone: I just did that - should I try to run my /etc/network/interfaces file again from the forums
[03:18] <toMte83a> always someone awake in here when the sweds have fallen asleep... how are people tonight?
[03:18] <jobezone> babelfishi: maybe:) I'm pretty ignorant on these wireless matters! Just was looking at thread, and thinking of stuff you could try :)
[03:18] <Xenguy> MrProper__: barf to text files and run diff   ?
[03:19] <babelfishi> jobezone: i'm almost completly new to linux - i'm not sure...
[03:19] <babelfishi> jobezone: i'll give it a try...
[03:19] <eneried> i want an application like ACDSee in ubuntu, do you know one?
[03:19] <MrProper__> Xenguy, i was hoping to use the inbuilt --compare option to tar, but tar seems to ignore files that are not in the archive and doesnt seem to give an option to tell me that
[03:19] <benoy> when i type in "ssh -X username@serveraddress.edu" It asks for the password, which i enter correctly.  Then I get access to the school's server.  When I type in matlab, it gives me a textbased environment rather than a gui window but if I do the same steps on my ubuntu computer, I get a graphical interface which is what I need because I need to deal with graphs and other visual aids.
[03:20] <konfuzed> MrProper__, you could do an incremental update with tar and tell it to only list what it would do and the output gives your answer
[03:20] <plex0r> what i need is to get my orinoco wireless card working ASAP
[03:20] <plex0r> :(
[03:20] <biovore> benoy: x forward?
[03:21] <babelfishi> jobezone: it still doesn't work
[03:21] <jobezone> babelfishi: from the thread, it seemed the biggest obstacle you had was that the  prism2_usb module wasn't loaded automatically.
[03:21] <babelfishi> jobezone: yes, do you know how to fix it?
[03:21] <eneried> benoy, you need a vnc client
[03:21] <eneried> does anybody know a good image viewer like ACDSee but for ubuntu?
[03:21] <cva> benoy: what do you mean you get a graphical interface? the -X means that it will forward X data. So you could run, say xclock on the cleint and it would appear on your local system.
[03:22] <Xenguy> eneried: gqview is one
[03:22] <MrProper__> konfuzed,  how do you mean an incremental update?
[03:22] <whaley> btw, is edubuntu prounounced "ee-dee-you-buntu" or "edge-oo--buntu"
[03:22] <eneried> Xenguy, and  i can install it trough synaptic?
[03:22] <jobezone> babelfishi: no :( It's strange that for the others in the thread, it was loaded, and not yours. Anyway, when you did 'modprobe prism2_usb' it loaded the module. But it still doesn't work. Perhaps you could say that in that thread, and get more help.
[03:22] <babelfishi> jobezone: thanks
[03:22] <Xenguy> eneried: apt-cache show gqview
[03:23] <jobezone> babelfishi: also, make sure you know the exact piece of hardware you have
[03:23] <rcoelho> i just wanted to say hello...this is my first time using linux, and it is damn cool.
[03:23] <Xenguy> eneried: or use synaptic
[03:23] <eneried> Xenguy, thanks ;)
[03:23] <rcoelho> why do people use windows?
[03:23] <babelfishi> jobezone: exact?
[03:23] <meheren> hey
[03:23] <Xenguy> eneried: yw
[03:23] <babelfishi> jobezone: is netgear ma111 usb good enough?
[03:23] <meheren> trae, you on?
[03:23] <SoulPropagation> is it possible to install ubuntu PPC from an x86 box? (the hard drive will be moved over to a ppc box post-install)
[03:23] <Isaac-Lew> I thought it waas ed-you-buntu
[03:24] <Xenguy> rcoelho: because they don't know yet that there are alternatives ?
[03:24] <benoy> ok, i'm confused.
[03:24] <orbin> _jason: ping
[03:24] <NickGarvey> benoy: you don't want vnc I don't think
[03:24] <konfuzed> MrProper__, I dont recall the option but once you have a tar file you can tell tar to do it again but dont bother if the file hasnt cahnged
[03:24] <jobezone> babelfishi: I don't know, sorry! I've never used a wireless router, or otherwise use wireless.
[03:24] <_jason> orbin: pong
[03:24] <NickGarvey> benoy: and why not just use ubuntu live cd?
[03:24] <babelfishi> k
[03:24] <NickGarvey> benoy: hell damn small linux might be able to handle it
[03:25] <NickGarvey> benoy: can run that off a cheap 64 MB usb drive ;)
[03:25] <jobezone> babelfishi: lspci is a good command to see the hardware you have. But anyway, you seem sure to know what hardware you have.
[03:25] <SoulPropagation> whaley: I thought it was ed-ubuntu
[03:25] <orbin> _jason: thanks for the effort w/ the winamp skin. looks like the buttons were just switched though ... the eq button toggles the playlist, the pl button toggles the equalizer
[03:25] <whaley> SoulPropagation, yet another possibility!
[03:26] <e-sin> yay it's back!
[03:26] <_jason> orbin: hmm so it didn't work?
[03:26] <benoy> oh yeah
[03:26] <benoy> true
[03:26] <benoy> let me see
[03:27] <orbin> _jason: not quite no.  i actually had a look myself at the .bmp files.  i couldn't work out how it all works :-/
[03:27] <NickGarvey> benoy: when windows fails, use linux :), which basically means use linux all the time
[03:27] <jobezone> babelfishi: just as a longshot, I saw mentioned in that that thread about you needing a t76c503 driver.
[03:27] <benoy> lol
[03:27] <joshritger> does anyone know how to autologin on xubuntu?
[03:27] <jobezone> babelfishi: you could try 'sudo modbprobe t76c503'
[03:27] <_jason> orbin: mind joining me in offtopic?
[03:27] <babelfishi> jobezone: i'll give it a try..
[03:27] <joshritger> I tried the xubuntu forum but no help there
[03:28] <jobezone> babelfishi: but I'm not sure the person saying that was talking about a module/driver, or the specific name of your hardware.
[03:28] <babelfishi> jobezone: unoh: FATAL: Module t76c503 not found.
[03:29] <jobezone> babelfishi: right, that wasn't a name for a module (driver). just trying. They say in the thread that the module you need is prism2_usb, which you loaded, and still didn't work..
[03:29] <jobezone> babelfishi: try saying that in that thread.
[03:29] <liquidindian> Is there a way to restart gnome without restarting my computer?
[03:30] <babelfishi> jobezone: just did.
[03:30] <babelfishi> jobezone: thanks for the help, i g2g
[03:30] <jobezone> babelfishi: did you eventually learn how to install the linux-wlan-ng package?
[03:30] <joshritger> can anyone tell me how to autologin in xubuntu, i tried xubuntu forum with no help
[03:31] <cva> liquidindian: you can logout and back in, or if it's locked up, then use ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:31] <liquidindian> Thanks!
[03:31] <poningru> joshritger: what do you mean autologin?
[03:31] <joshritger> i want it so i dont need a password
[03:31] <poningru> oh...
[03:32] <joshritger> i want it to load to my desktop without password and in xfce ican't find a way to change it
[03:32] <jmg> zero666: you cant make files in the root dir unless you sudo
[03:32] <joshritger> xfce runs much faster than gnome on my comp so i wanna try using xfce
[03:32] <specialbuddy> !firefox
[03:33] <NickGarvey> !tell specialbuddy about ff1.5
[03:33] <jmg> zero666: you have admin rights, which allows you to become the root user by using sudo
[03:33] <orbin> joshritger: are you running xubuntu, or ubuntu w/ xfce installed?
[03:33] <zero666> jgm ah so i would type something like "sudo mkdir /root/name of dir"
[03:33] <joshritger> xubunut
[03:33] <joshritger> xubuntu
[03:33] <jmg> !tell zero666 about sudo
[03:34] <jmg> zero666: yes
[03:34] <zero666> ah thanks for all the help i think i should be able to get some where now
[03:34] <ablyss> who had the question about auto login?
[03:34] <jmg> zero666: why did you /n {anna}O?
[03:34] <jmg> zero666: try to get someone to help by pretending to be a girl?
[03:34] <phewl> where is the kernel's .config file ?
[03:34] <zero666> thanks my wifes nick i forgot to change it when i loged on lol
[03:35] <NickGarvey> haha
[03:35] <orbin> ablyss: joshritger
[03:35] <jmg> zero666 hahaha
[03:35] <ablyss> ty orbin
[03:35] <joshritger> orbin?
[03:35] <jmg> well i gotta rest up laters all
[03:35] <ablyss> joshritger, type sudo gdmsetup and set yourself to login w/ 5 seconds
[03:35] <s|k> are programs installed in /usr/lib or /usr/bin ?
[03:35] <joshritger> k
[03:35] <joshritger> thanks
[03:35] <orbin> ablyss: oh, so xubuntu uses gdm too?
[03:36] <jmg> orbin: yes cause xdm is uuuuuuuuuuuuuugly
[03:36] <tritium> s|k: /usr/bin
[03:36] <NickGarvey> :)
[03:36] <Beawolfe> Evening All!
[03:36] <ablyss> orbin, yes far as i know gdm is used by the sytem regardless of window manager
[03:36] <joshritger> thanks so much
[03:36] <orbin> jmg: oh. :)
[03:36] <dli> what's the ubuntulinux.nl sources.list a-matic link?
[03:36] <orbin> ablyss: thanks.
[03:36] <s|k> tritium: thanks
[03:36] <zero666> thanks for the help night all
[03:37] <crimson> What causes this error... checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:37] <_sHaDe> notte a tutti :)
[03:37] <tritium> s|k: dpkg -L <packagename> will list the files in a package, fyi
[03:37] <orbin> crimson: do you have build-essential installed?
[03:37] <crimson> orbin: lemme check
[03:37] <phewl> where is the kernel's .config file ?
[03:37] <jobezone> crimson: or you are compiling a program in a directory which you have no permissions to write to.
[03:38] <punkrawkpat> !java
[03:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:38] <babelfishi> jobezone: yeah, i have it installed
[03:38] <FearMoth> what's the command to install a script into /etc/init.d ?
[03:38] <tritium> phewl: /boot/
[03:38] <bimberi> phewl: /boot
[03:38] <punkrawkpat> !javadebs
[03:38] <tritium> FearMoth: you'll want to use update-rc.d
[03:38] <FearMoth> thanks, just forgot what it was called
[03:38] <crimson> jobezone: no
[03:38] <NickGarvey> update-rc.d is ubuntu?
[03:39] <orbin> crimson: if you need to check, then you probably haven't
[03:39] <tritium> NickGarvey: it's available in ubuntu, yes
[03:39] <jobezone> babelfishi: could you run 'lpsci' and paste the result in the Pastebin?
[03:39] <crimson> orbin: it's working, thank you
[03:39] <NickGarvey> oh cool
[03:39] <FearMoth> tritium: is there an opposite of update-rc.d to remove?
[03:39] <babelfishi> jobezone: i just realized something
[03:39] <tritium> FearMoth: same command can do both
[03:39] <babelfishi> jobezone: it's at76c503
[03:39] <NickGarvey> downdate? ;)
[03:40] <babelfishi> jobezone: and i think it runs: modprobeat76c503
[03:40] <babelfishi> jobezone:  modprobe at76c503, but when i type sudo ifup wlan0, it still fails
[03:41] <jobezone> babelfishi: try 'sudo modprobe 76c503a'
[03:41] <MrProper__> konfuzed, i know the update option but what is the one to tell me what its going to do without performing it (like a pretend option)
[03:41] <babelfishi> jobezone: @ubuntu:~/$ sudo modprobe 76c503a
[03:41] <babelfishi>  FATAL: Module 76c503a not found.
[03:41] <Beawolfe> Question for someone....(noob here).....I have found out what "sudo" does...but I cant seem to find the "bash" command....what is it and what does it accomplish?
[03:41] <joshritger> does anyone know how i can configure x11vnc
[03:42] <joshritger> does it automatically run on startup?>
[03:42] <sethk> Beawolfe, it is the command shell
[03:42] <jobezone> babelfishi: ok, so you got the module name right.
[03:42] <sethk> Beawolfe, actually it is one of the available command shells.
[03:42] <jobezone> try adding it to the /etc/modules file.
[03:42] <Beawolfe> okay
[03:43] <babelfishi> jobezone: any more ideas?
[03:43] <jobezone> babelfishi: this file tells which modules are run at boot. add 76c503 (the one that worked) to it at the end, and reboot.
[03:43] <pear-i> Hey does anyone know how to configure a wireless card to a WEP protected router? the GUI doesn't seem to be working at all (although the drivers and such are all set up)
[03:43] <jobezone> babelfishi: may be that a reboot, and loading the module at boot, works... but, this is just a guess.
[03:43] <babelfishi> jobezone: ummm - what file?
[03:44] <Beawolfe> then what is the difference from opening a terminal thru applications and Alt-F2 which is what someone told me to do the other night?
[03:44] <jobezone> babelfishi: /etc/modules
[03:44] <jobezone> write the module name at the end, in a new line
[03:45] <juztin> how do i extract a file of type bz2?
[03:45] <pear-i> beawolfe (there is basically no difference except you're still under X when you open the terminal)
[03:45] <jobezone> do it with 'sudo nano /etc/modules' or 'sudo gedit /etc/modules' if you prefer using gedit.
[03:45] <sethk> Beawolfe, you have a screen to work with instead of one line
[03:45] <sethk> Beawolfe, and you don't type anything to get to the point of typing a command.
[03:46] <UWBP> does anyone use Acer Aspire 1692WLMi?
[03:46] <sethk> Beawolfe, you can change the environment in the shell before running a command
[03:46] <pear-i> does anyone know how to configure /etc/network/interfaces ? *
[03:46] <sethk> Beawolfe, there are hundreds of reasons
[03:46] <Beawolfe> okay Thanx...I can see it is going to take a few days to get used to all of this again
[03:46] <sethk> pear-i, yes, but why not just use network-admin?
[03:46] <rishi> hey guys, i downloaded a movie in its decryption format (vob, etc) how do i burn it on to a playable DVD/??
[03:46] <pear-i> for some reason it doesn't work
[03:46] <babelfishi> jobezone: shouldn't it be at76c503
[03:47] <sethk> pear-i, does it make changes to /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:47] <pear-i> I had the same problem back in hoary -- but fixed it by editing the interfaces file
[03:47] <pear-i> yah but my wifi card won't connect to the router -- no access points
[03:47] <jobezone> babelfishi: yes, it should be the done that worked when you 'modprob'ed it. That gave no error message.
[03:47] <pear-i> using native support truemobile 1150 btw *
[03:47] <sethk> pear-i, then it isn't try that it doesn't work.  what happens is that it does work, but the configuration doesn't work properly
[03:47] <Beawolfe> the command structure is a little differnt but it does remind me of the old days of key banging Ms Dos
[03:47] <babelfishi> jobezone: ok - brb
[03:48] <sethk> pear-i, if you edit the interfaces file, or network-admin edits the interface file, the result is the same
[03:48] <pear-i> oh
[03:48] <pear-i> any idea how i can fix that with the 'right' configurations?
[03:48] <juztin> how do i extract a file of type bz2?
[03:48] <sethk> juztin, you don't, bz2 is a compression type
[03:48] <sethk> juztin, what you mean is how do you extract from tar.bz2, probably
[03:49] <rishi> hey guys, i downloaded a movie in its decryption format (vob, etc) how do i burn it on to a playable DVD/??
[03:49] <sethk> juztin, that answer is tar xvjf filename
[03:49] <juztin> sethk, oh ok...how do i do that? :P
[03:49] <yipe> why is the newest version of firefox NOT in the repository?
[03:49] <juztin> sethk, ah, thx :)
[03:49] <yipe> I mean..... how weird is that?
[03:49] <pear-i> right now i have:
[03:49] <pear-i> wireless-essid HHH
[03:49] <pear-i> wireless-mode managed
[03:49] <pear-i> wireless-keymode restricted
[03:49] <pear-i> wireless-key ********
[03:49] <Hexidigital> !ff1.5
[03:49] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:50] <yipe> thanks!
[03:50] <Hexidigital> np
[03:50] <jobezone> juztin: or wait until June the 1st :)
[03:50] <pear-i> any idea whats wrong w/ that * ?
[03:53] <Zardiac> How do i make gdm and gnome and everything to run on screen 1 instead of 0??
[03:54] <yourwelcome> hello!everyone
[03:54] <imbroglio> quick question, what do i change to give sudo permissions to all
[03:54] <yourwelcome> I am new to the ubuntu.
[03:55] <pear-i> imbroglio -- thats probably a bad idea
[03:55] <NickGarvey> hello :)
[03:55] <MHobbit> Welcome ;-)
[03:55] <imbroglio> true, if this was a public terminal or i had others using it that doesn't understand linux
[03:55] <NickGarvey> imbroglio: man visudo I think would help, if not theres a little howto when you run visudo
[03:55] <imbroglio> my bro and i have used slack for the past 4 years and i am new to this whole sudo thing
[03:56] <yourwelcome> any chinese here??
[03:56] <pear-i> but i guess if you want just ability to sudo admin > system > user and groups i think you can set it here
[03:56] <babelfishi> jobezone: nope - back to ethernet cord
[03:57] <orbin> yourwelcome: #ubuntu-zh
[03:57] <Xilo> fdsa
[03:57] <jobezone> mithro: use the 'visudo' command. To give the new user the same sudo previliges(?) as the main user, add at the end 'username  ALL=(ALL) ALL'
[03:59] <jobezone> babelfishi: did you run 'lpsci'? to see the specific hardware name?
[03:59] <babelfishi> jobezone: uhh...
[03:59] <jobezone> imbroglio: use the 'visudo' command. To give the new user the same sudo previliges(?) as the main user, add at the end 'username  ALL=(ALL) ALL'
[03:59] <babelfishi> jobezone: command not found
[03:59] <jobezone> babelfishi: sorry, it's lspci
[03:59] <jobezone> babelfishi: I keep making this mistake!
[03:59] <babelfishi> jobezone: 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev 03)
[03:59] <babelfishi> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 03)
[03:59] <babelfishi> 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 12)
[03:59] <babelfishi> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 12)
[03:59] <babelfishi> 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 12)
[03:59] <babelfishi> 0000:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 12)
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 12)
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 12)
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev b2)
[04:00] <NickGarvey> !pastebin
[04:00] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:02:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:02:07.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 07)
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:02:08.0 Communication controller: Conexant HCF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 08)
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:02:09.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31)
[04:00] <babelfishi> ...oops
[04:00] <babelfishi> my bad guys
[04:00] <jobezone> babelfishi: you should have used the Pastebin website mentioned in the topic ::)
[04:01] <Optic> hey, have any of you made mathmatica work on xubuntu?
[04:01] <tritium> babelfishi: pastebin next time, okay?  ;)
[04:01] <Hobbsee> babelfishi: sheesh.  do not paste in here!
[04:01] <babelfishi> sorry guys...
[04:01] <babelfishi> jobezone: any ideas?
[04:02] <_jason> Optic: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mathematica ?
[04:02] <jobezone> babelfishi: could you paste it in the website mentioned in the topic, so I can look at it?
[04:02] <Optic> woo!
[04:02] <babelfishi> jobezone: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=961291#post961291
[04:03] <babelfishi> jobezone: another related topic - different approch: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111913&highlight=netgear+MA111
[04:03] <holycow> *hmmm*
[04:03] <holycow> okay, isn't a dist-upgrade supposed to upgrade all packages?
[04:03] <holycow> i have a few things like openoffice that remain waiting for an upgrad e... any way to force absolutely all packages to upgrade?
[04:04] <jobezone> babelfishi: but I'd like to see the lspci output :)
[04:04] <dli> holycow, sudo apt-get -f --yes upgrade
[04:04] <dli> holycow, you may have to quit synaptic to use apt-get
[04:04] <keithhhh1> I currently run a dual boot system and I was wondering does anyone think it should be easy to export firefox's passwords from windows to linux???
[04:05] <babelfishi> jobezone: i just posted above...^
[04:05] <holycow> i know that ... that comman is clever i didnt' know about that ... it doesn't work tho
[04:05] <mram> you have to quit synaptic to use apt-get, synaptic is a gui for apt-get
[04:05] <dli> holycow, never say "it doesn't work", be more specific
[04:06] <holycow> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded. <--
[04:06] <babelfishi> jobezone: here....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12964
[04:06] <dt-oz-gc> imbrandon-, make each user a member of the admin group. They get full sudo privileges.
[04:06] <holycow> let me rephrase my question
[04:06] <holycow> in all actuality i don't care, i can fix this manually i'm not a noob
[04:07] <holycow> what i'm curious about is under what circumstnaces does apt decide that dist upgrade doesn't actually mean install all new stuff, remove all conflicting stuff
[04:07] <jobezone> babelfishi: stupid me, the lspci command only shows PCI hardware! sorry for the trouble I gave you. I'm looking at something...
[04:07] <dt-oz-gc> imbrandon-, Sorry that was for someone who I see has just left :-)
[04:08] <dli> holycow, you can use "apt-get -f install foo", apt keep it back, but upgrading would remove other installed packages
[04:08] <bimberi> holycow: if a package that could upgrade depends on a package version that isn't available in your enabled repos
[04:08] <holycow> *nod* of course but thats silly no matter how its frased
[04:09] <yourwelcome> could anybody now how to bind two dial in pppoe line in the ubuntu?
[04:09] <holycow> a dist upgrade i think should whack the whole set of packages in there, i'm  not really interested in fixing this manually despite the fact that i can
[04:09] <holycow> bimberi, ah *hmm* okay i see what your saying
[04:09] <NickGarvey> holycow: apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade usually upgrades everything
[04:09] <holycow> i was using 2.0 oo from another repo, that would explain it holding back, makes sense
[04:09] <jobezone> babelfishi: which version of linux are you running (run 'uname -r' to know)
[04:09] <SoulPropagation> Is there any way to dump the contents of the install disc onto a hard disk and install from that dumped partition
[04:09] <holycow> NickGarvey, they don't bro
[04:10] <dli> NickGarvey, I think dist-upgrade still keeps some packages back
[04:10] <holycow> as per bimberi's comments there is intelligence there that makes some analytical decisions, in my case i guess its beause i had other repos in there and it couldn't satisfy dependencies
[04:10] <babelfishi> jobezone: @ubuntu:~$ uname -r
[04:10] <babelfishi> 2.6.12-10-386
[04:10] <pear-i> anyone think they can help me in configuring /etc/network/interfaces? - i'm having trouble w/ connecting to my wireless router (access point)
[04:10] <holycow> i'll haveto poke around more and add this info to the wiki
[04:11] <intelikey> !wifi
[04:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:11] <holycow> thx for the heads up bimberi
[04:11] <wm0t> lol
[04:11] <bimberi> holycow: attempting to apt-get install one of the "not upgraded" packages might give more clues
[04:11] <intelikey> that link might help pear-i ^
[04:11] <bimberi> holycow: np :)
[04:11] <wm0t> ok does anyone know how to "hack" the uptime? as in modify the output of the uptime command?
[04:11] <pear-i> thanks cause the gui isn't really helping me much :p
[04:11] <pear-i> i'll try it tho
[04:12] <jobezone> babelfishi: yep, that's the most recent one of breezy...
[04:12] <babelfishi> jobezone: mhm
[04:12] <orbin> wm0t: cheating in an uptime competition? :P
[04:12] <wm0t> ok does anyone know how to "hack" the uptime? as in modify the output of the uptime command?
[04:12] <wm0t> orbin kinda
[04:12] <wm0t> lol
[04:12] <yourwelcome> wherer can i get the firewall doc ??
[04:12] <orbin> wm0t: just edit the text then :P
[04:13] <wm0t> no
[04:13] <wm0t> i need to
[04:13] <wm0t> change the proc file
[04:13] <wm0t> or we
[04:13] <intelikey> wm0t why would you want to do that ?     but i can think of a few ways.  the easiest is make a warper script for the command and cause it to mod the output.
[04:13] <wm0t> oh
[04:13] <wm0t> any other ways intelikey?
[04:14] <intelikey> write dirrectly to the process table.... (not the best idea i'ne ever had.)
[04:14] <_jason> wm0t: alias uptime to echo forever
[04:14] <jobezone> babelfishi: the networking applet
[04:14] <orbin> yourwelcome: what firewall?
[04:14] <farruinn> wm0t: A script is the easiest. Maybe take a look at awk and similar
[04:15] <jobezone> babelfishi: the networking window in System->Administration doesn't find the wireless hardware?
[04:15] <babelfishi> jobezone: no
[04:15] <orbin> _jason: lol
[04:15] <wm0t> well.. intelikey you cant write to /proc/uptime because it gets overwritten
[04:15] <intelikey> wm0t hehhe  set the cmos time to a year ago and reboot.  then set the clock  ????
[04:15] <wm0t> lol
[04:15] <babelfishi> jobezone: only finds my ethernet connection - default gateway device is eth0
[04:16] <_jason> intelikey: does that really work?
[04:16] <wm0t> no
[04:16] <harisund> How does the machine calculate uptime anywa?
[04:16] <intelikey> _jason i've never tried it.
[04:16] <harisund> Does it have a timer of its own?
[04:17] <intelikey> but all clocks can be manipulateddd
[04:17] <wm0t> it seem sso
[04:17] <bimberi> alias uptime='echo "A very long time."'
[04:17] <bimberi> :P
[04:17] <jobezone> babelfishi: this may not be helpfull, but you could report it as a bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-wlan-ng/+bugs (you'll need to register). In the bug report, explain everything you've done, and also link the ubuntuforums thread for reference.
[04:18] <yourwelcome> could you tell me where to get the firewall doc?:)
[04:18] <prospero2005> Is there a way I can tell if I am running Dapper besides looking at the sources.list?
[04:19] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: cat /etc/issue
[04:19] <_jason> prospero2005: lsb_release -c
[04:19] <bimberi> !version
[04:19] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue' in a terminal.
[04:19] <intelikey> sudo mv /usr/bin/uptime /usr/bin/uptime-real ;<write script to run uptime-real + time > stdout  >
[04:19] <prospero2005> thank you
[04:19] <_jason> don't even mv it, just put a new uptime in /usr/local/bin :P
[04:19] <wm0t> lol
[04:19] <yourwelcome> does the ubuntu support multi ppp link?
[04:19] <bimberi> _jason: hehe
[04:20] <intelikey> _jason i thought of that. but they might call it with path...
[04:20] <jobezone> babelfishi: other than that, see if you get more responses at the forum.
[04:20] <_jason> intelikey: ah, you are ready for ``them'' :)
[04:20] <babelfishi> jobezone: thanks
[04:20] <intelikey> _jason lol
[04:20] <jobezone> babelfishi: and see if you can find other people which use ubuntu breezy, and use your wireless card
[04:20] <harisund> Does anybody here have an email server running? I was wondering if someone could give me quick tips on the easiest way to get a mail server up in about the same time it takes to get a webserver running... :)
[04:21] <jobezone> babelfishi: and, if possible, check if the wireless card works in another OS. For example, you could burn a LiveCD of Knoppix, and boot it, and see if it is detected.
[04:21] <babelfishi> jobezone: it's for windows - i checked
[04:22] <babelfishi> jobezone: another thing: if i looked 'iwconfig' - in lo, eth0, and sit0 has no wireless extensions
[04:23] <babelfishi> jobezone: hmm - this post is interesting: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=465719&postcount=7
[04:23] <SoulPropagation> Is there any way to dump the contents of the install disc onto a hard disk and install from that dumped partition?
[04:24] <intelikey> SoulPropagation not an easy way.   you can mount an iso file but the installer is hard coded to look for a cd
[04:25] <jleedev> I can't print from samba; it keeps giving "Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported: Unsupported format 'application/octet-stream'!"
[04:25] <jobezone> babelfishi: looking at your link
[04:25] <SoulPropagation> intelikey: not an iso, like a partition that the installer disc was dd-ed onto
[04:25] <orbin> aren't w32codecs supposed to take care of divx wmvs?
[04:26] <intelikey> SoulPropagation what part of (the installer is hard coded to look for a cd)  did you miss there ?   the problem is not the files. it's where the installer looks for them.
[04:26] <orbin> SoulPropagation: if you have a cdrom drie, why not just install form the cd? :-/
[04:26] <orbin> s/drie/drive
[04:28] <yourwelcome> could you tell me where to get the firewall doc?
[04:28] <babelfishi> jobezone: g2g - feel free to email me at niffles@gmail.com
[04:28] <intelikey> SoulPropagation if this is an "only option" approach, i think i'd pull the hdd and install on another box them move it back to that box.
[04:29] <yourwelcome> could you tell me where to get the firewall doc?
[04:29] <farruinn> yourwelcome: I'm not sure which doc is *the* doc - maybe start by looking on the wiki or www.tldp.org?
[04:29] <orbin> yourwelcome: what firewall?
[04:29] <intelikey> man iptables  man shorewall
[04:30] <SoulPropagation> intelikey: It's a powerpc, and it's the only ppc in my house. Everything else in my house in an x86
[04:30] <farruinn> yourwelcome: firestarter is pretty easy to use too
[04:30] <farruinn> SoulPropagation: a mac?
[04:30] <intelikey> SoulPropagation hmmm  ppc   and cant boot the installer ?
[04:31] <SoulPropagation> farruinn: yeah that ;)
[04:31] <farruinn> SoulPropagation: is it an oldworld (beige) mac?
[04:31] <SoulPropagation> intelikey: cd drive is busted
[04:31] <SoulPropagation> farruinn: no it's a 600mhz g3 imac
[04:35] <poningru> yarr
[04:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> yarr
[04:36] <poningru> anyone need any help?
[04:36] <intelikey> anyone know why when users do either X or startx they get;
[04:36] <intelikey> Fatal server error:
[04:36] <intelikey> xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)
[04:37] <poningru> well thats not supposed to happen
[04:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *blink*... XF86?
[04:38] <farruinn> SoulPropagation: I don't know if this would work, but you might try using apple's disc utility to copy the contents of the .iso to a partition
[04:38] <Knorrie> !reverse xf86EnableIOPorts
[04:38] <ubotu> Knorrie: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:38] <Knorrie> ubotu: heh
[04:38] <escobar5> hello, how do i mount an NTFS disk with permissions to read for other users??
[04:38] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Knorrie
[04:38] <poningru> !tell escobar5 about ntfs
[04:39] <prospero2005> the adept package manager doesn't seem to be available in dapper. does that sound right?
[04:39] <prospero2005> only synaptic
[04:39] <yourwelcome> first i think i should see the firestarter,thanks farruinn
[04:39] <escobar5> poningru: thanks
[04:39] <SoulPropagation> farruinn: or just dd it from one of my x86s
[04:39] <poningru> np
[04:39] <intelikey> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[04:39] <intelikey>   adept app-install-data debtags gamin kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a
[04:39] <farruinn> SoulPropagation: That would probably be more reliable - sounds like you know what you're doing :)
[04:39] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: it should be there...
[04:40] <intelikey> prospero2005 it's there  see what i just posted  ^
[04:40] <Hobbsee> !tell prospero2005 about info adept dapper
[04:41] <prospero2005> I bet my sources.list is warped. It can't find this library: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11
[04:41] <SoulPropagation> farruinn: ;)
[04:41] <prospero2005> I basically changed every instance to of breezy to dapper in my sources.list
[04:42] <prospero2005> I get errors with the package manager now.... gotta sort that out
[04:42] <prospero2005> Can anyone provide a good sources.list file for dapper for me?
[04:42] <intelikey> why is it looking for it prospero2005 ?
[04:42] <NickGarvey> !dapper
[04:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !sources
[04:42] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:43] <intelikey> !info libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 breezy
[04:43] <intelikey> !info libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 dapper
[04:43] <intelikey> !info libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 hoary
[04:43] <farruinn> prospero2005: that package doesn't exist....
[04:43] <intelikey> there is no such critter.
[04:43] <farruinn> prospero2005: maybe you just want libc6?
[04:44] <prospero2005> I'll look at that
[04:44] <intelikey> !info libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 warty
[04:45] <farruinn> prospero2005: btw, #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[04:45] <prospero2005> adept:
[04:45] <prospero2005>  Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11   <-- that's the error message.. hmm. thanks
[04:46] <intelikey> libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 = libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11    that package has never existed in ubuntu
[04:46] <Aine> Hello. Has anyone had an issue where ubutnu install says there is no network card present but there is a firewire card?
[04:47] <farruinn> intelikey: It is in the depends on package.ubuntu.com though - it's a virtual package that's supposed to be supplied by the apt package
[04:48] <matthew_w> Hey, is there any validity in the statement that placing both linux and windows on  one hard drive via partitioning is unhealthy for the hard drive?
[04:48] <crimsun> matthew_w: utter rubbish
[04:48] <farruinn> prospero2005: It's possible you haven't fully upgraded to dapper yet - breezy's apt provides libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.10
[04:49] <matthew_w> crimsun; to what margin of error?
[04:49] <crimsun> matthew_w: though I hear breathing deeply can cause you to lapse into cardiac arrest
[04:49] <matthew_w> lmao
[04:49] <[D] ARKFENIX> hello
[04:49] <matthew_w> Okay, come now, I'm not quite -that- inept just yet.
[04:49] <intelikey> matthew_w valid is subjective.      but in short, no.
[04:50] <Garuda> can me know you
[04:51] <matthew_w> Hrm... I had a hard drive that I had lin/win for about a year, and it cracked, loudly, and the comp store guy blamed journaling and non journaling fs's on the same plate
[04:51] <prospero2005> I may have figured it out. Thanks for the tips. (I'm only happy when my linux is broken. If it's running smoothly, I must break it!)
[04:51] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: hehe!
[04:51] <matthew_w> I figured he was full of it, but I'm pretty broke, so I don't like taking chances.
[04:51] <NickGarvey> :)
[04:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> matthew_w: he was full of it
[04:51] <CraiZE> matthew_w, yah he is stupid
[04:51] <intelikey> prospero2005    ah   apt-get -P remove dash        should work for that.   :)
[04:51] <CraiZE> a hdd doesnt care if its journaled or not
[04:51] <NickGarvey> matthew_w: ha that is so stupid
[04:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> matthew_w: Send him a LART. :)
[04:52] <NickGarvey> :)
[04:52] <[D] ARKFENIX>  what command can auto-shutdown  my pc in a determinated hour?
[04:52] <Garuda> can me nkow you
[04:52] <prospero2005> chmod -R / will also work nicely
[04:52] <prospero2005> chmod -R 777 / will also work nicely
[04:53] <doms> hi
[04:53] <doms> people
[04:53] <NickGarvey> haha yeah, and make the ssh account "public" with no password
[04:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> [D] ARKFENIX: A cron entry of some kind could do that.
[04:53] <farruinn> [D] ARKFENIX: shutdown -h <time> (see the shutdown man etc)
[04:53] <NickGarvey> and let the clock tick
[04:53] <[D] ARKFENIX> for example
[04:53] <_jason> [D] ARKFENIX: take a look at the 'at' command
[04:53] <doms> i'am happy with my new ubuntu dapper drake 6.06 beta
[04:53] <[D] ARKFENIX> shutdown -h 2:00
[04:53] <intelikey> prospero2005 i have a box with  chmod 001 /*     it works well, now that i've adjusted a few things.
[04:53] <_jason> [D] ARKFENIX: oh, yeah never mind, shutdown works without that :)
[04:53] <prospero2005> One time I set up a linux box on my network and posted the root password on the linux newsgroups with the title 'burn this box'  It took something like 2 hours before someone completely trashed it.
[04:53] <[D] ARKFENIX> to shutdown at 2AM?
[04:54] <doms> i'am happy with my new ubuntu dapper drake 6.06 beta
[04:54] <orbin> yeah doms, you told us. good on you
[04:54] <Whyvas> is there anything set in cron by default in ubuntu?
[04:54] <Whyvas> i disabled it and im wondering if im missing out on anything
[04:54] <farruinn> [D] ARKFENIX: yes, check 'man shutdown' for details
[04:55] <intelikey> [D] ARKFENIX an  at command is what you are looking for.    man at
[04:55] <NickGarvey> Whyvas: doesn't look like it
[04:55] <Garuda> can you write in indonesia
[04:55] <NickGarvey> Whyvas: "crontab -l" shows you
[04:55] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: sheesh.  ouch.
[04:55] <_jason> Whyvas: look at /etc/cron.*
[04:55] <jobezone> updatedb is run by cron
[04:55] <orbin> Whyvas: updatedb is useful if you run locate a lot
[04:55] <crhylove> Hiya...
[04:56] <crhylove> anyone wanna help a n00b get back to X after a bad Xgl/Compiz install attempt?
[04:56] <crhylove> I'm stuck at console and lost.  Thanks
[04:56] <[D] ARKFENIX> at 2:00 shutdown -h ?
[04:56] <[D] ARKFENIX> is it ok?
[04:56] <SoulPropagation> [D] ARKFENIX: thought it was shutdown -h 2:00
 is there anything set in cron by default in ubuntu?   <---  logrotate   i think is the only default cron job.
[04:56] <doms> hi hellow is their somebody willing to provide a seminar in our school Philippines (mindanao) urios college were shoulder the fare, board and lodging and venue
[04:56] <orbin> !id
[04:56] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[04:56] <orbin> Garuda: ^^
[04:57] <[D] ARKFENIX> crhylove : ctrl+alt+backscape
[04:57] <dli> what's the package name for the desktop? ubuntu-desktop ?
[04:57] <[D] ARKFENIX> with that you reset the X's
[04:57] <doms> we would like to transform existing windows to ubuntu box
[04:57] <[D] ARKFENIX> and you can load other graphic enviroinment
[04:57] <doms> hi hellow is their somebody willing to provide a seminar in our school Philippines (mindanao) urios college were shoulder the fare, board and lodging and venue
[04:57] <jobezone> that would be 'sudo shutdown -h 2:00'
 what's the package name for the desktop? ubuntu-desktop ?  <----  gnome
[04:58] <yourwelcome> how can i bind 2 adsl line with dial in if the Ubuntu support
[04:58] <intelikey> utuntu-desktop is the meta package that installs gnome and all the gui apps.  the  meta package for just the desktop is gnome
[04:58] <Garuda> q people indonesia
[04:59] <jobezone> doms: sorry, live far away from you
[04:59] <orbin> doms: ask in #ubuntu-ph maybe
[04:59] <NickGarvey> doms: I think the forums would be a good place so more people get to look at that
[05:00] <NickGarvey> doms: seems to be quite an oppertunity for someone knowledgeable enought
[05:00] <doms> their is an indian their which interested to give trainings in our school
[05:00] <doms> i hope he walk thru our needs
[05:01] <[D] ARKFENIX> how i can make a dialog box to take a value (for xdialog) ??
[05:01] <intelikey> readline ?
[05:01] <doms> ubuntu-ph is not effecient
[05:01] <Garuda> i can dialog in indonesia
[05:02] <[D] ARKFENIX> no
[05:02] <[D] ARKFENIX> a value
[05:02] <egytrack> hello
[05:02] <[D] ARKFENIX> loke a number
[05:02] <[D] ARKFENIX> like a number
[05:02] <bimberi> mem34ber
[05:03] <[D] ARKFENIX> an imput dialog
[05:03] <[D] ARKFENIX> for xdialog
[05:03] <[D] ARKFENIX> does anybody knows how?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> its possible xdialog dont have that feature.. or check the man pages and see
[05:03] <[D] ARKFENIX> yes it has
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> theres other dialog alternatives
[05:03] <[D] ARKFENIX> like what?
[05:04] <jobezone> zenity
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> freshmeat.net  or google for them., i belive kde and gnome also both have their own version/alternative
[05:04] <[D] ARKFENIX> i use xfce
[05:04] <intelikey> man xargs
[05:04] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell Garuda about id
[05:04] <jobezone> zenity uses gtk2
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> sorry to hear that.
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:04] <[D] ARKFENIX> lol
[05:04] <minerale> I installed the nvidia drivers, I restart gdm, it's all fine
[05:05] <minerale> I installed the nvidia drivers, I restart gdm, it's all fine, then I reboot the computer and x server is broken again.. eh?
[05:05] <crimson> how do I fix: *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.8.6, but GLIB (2.8.3)
[05:05] <crimson> *** was found!
[05:05] <crimson> without removing all packages
[05:06] <[D] ARKFENIX> zenity is easier than xdialog
[05:06] <[D] ARKFENIX> 8_)
[05:06] <cafuego> crimson: The -dev version of normal package versions are mismatched?
[05:06] <[D] ARKFENIX> 8-)
[05:06] <crimson> cafuego: yes
[05:06] <Garuda> tanks
[05:06] <cafuego> crimson: Just upgrade one or downgrade the other.
[05:07] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: what are you building, which involves asking the user for a numeric value, and shutting down at a specific time?
[05:07] <Garuda> ga ngerti
[05:07] <crimson> cafuego: how do i downgrade? uninstall the newest version
[05:07] <cafuego> !info libglib2.0-0
[05:07] <ubotu> libglib2.0-0: (The GLib library of C routines), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 988 kB
[05:07] <orbin> minerale: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:07] <cafuego> !info libglib2.0-0-dev
[05:08] <doms> how do i install a driver for my creative webcam to use ekiga
[05:08] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobzone : yes
[05:08] <cafuego> !info libglib2.0-dev
[05:08] <ubotu> libglib2.0-dev: (Development files for the GLib library), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 482 kB, Installed size: 1908 kB
[05:08] <hyphenated> Garuda: apa?
[05:08] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone : yes
[05:08] <Garuda> ok yes
[05:08] <cafuego> crimson: Where did that 2.8.6 come from?
[05:08] <crimson> cafuego: from the offical site
[05:08] <cafuego> crimson: Did you at some stage do a manual or custom upgrade?
[05:09] <crimson> cafuego: yes
[05:09] <Garuda> my fs garuda_iman@yahoo.com
[05:09] <cafuego> crimson: Ok, easiest would be to downgrade it, 'sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0=2.8.3-0ubuntu1'
[05:10] <Garuda> trims
[05:10] <cafuego> And the same for the -dev package.
[05:10] <crimson> cafuego: it says: libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version.
[05:10] <caleb-> Does Ubuntu have something similar with http://incoming.debian.org ?
[05:10] <cafuego> crimson: 'sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev=2.8.3-0ubuntu1'
[05:11] <caleb-> I asked ubotu but he knows nothing.
[05:11] <doms> how do i install a driver for my creative webcam to use ekiga
[05:11] <cafuego> If that also whines, insert a '--reinstall' param for apt.
[05:11] <holycow> allright, so a dist upgrade can be messy
[05:11] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: I'm curious. Whatcha building there?
[05:11] <Garuda> i people indanesia there centre jawa timur (pasuruan)
[05:11] <holycow> but syanptic kinda makes it easy to clean up things with missing dependencies or things needing updates, etc.
[05:11] <[D] ARKFENIX> a mini-app that takes a determinated hour to shutdown the pc
[05:11] <holycow> i think synaptic is highly underrated
[05:12] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone : do you speak spanish?
[05:12] <minerale> orbin: It says 'failed to initialize the Nvidia kernel module' ... but if I setup nvidia manually it comes up just fine
[05:12] <sig-11> breezy/dapper seem to be missing opengl man pages which were in warty/hoary. Things like glxinfo and glViewport. Anyone know why?
[05:12] <jobezone> caleb-: I think new packages go directly into dapper, but I'm not sure. Canonical may have an internal incoming distro.
[05:12] <intelikey> going to install a cdburner.  be back later with the errors   lol  :)
[05:12] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: nope, why?
[05:12] <hanasaki> does the ubuntu live boot to gnome?kde?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> hanasaki,  the ubuntu one = gnome , kubuntu = kde
[05:12] <[D] ARKFENIX> because in yuor info your name is eduadro
[05:12] <crimson> cafuego: it's still mismatched
[05:12] <cafuego> sig-11: 'glxinfo' is there.
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> not sure if tehres a xubuntu one.
[05:13] <minerale> orbin: api missmatch between the 'nvidia kernel' and the x module version
[05:13] <[D] ARKFENIX> because in yuor info your name is eduardo
[05:13] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: I understand, and can speak potuspanish.
[05:13] <cafuego> crimson: force-reinstall the normal lib too.
[05:13] <orbin> minerale: maybe you didn't set the module to load at bootup (i have an ati, so can't really help)
[05:13] <crimson> cafuego: i don't think its -dev i think it's the actual glib-2.0
[05:13] <orbin> minerale: did you follow the wiki
[05:13] <sig-11> the man page?
[05:13] <crimson> cafuego: k
[05:13] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: portuspanish=portuguese+spanish
[05:13] <[D] ARKFENIX> ahm ok
[05:13] <minerale> orbin: this is from nvidia's website
[05:13] <[D] ARKFENIX> yeah i know
[05:13] <[D] ARKFENIX> lol
[05:13] <orbin> minerale: yeah, you should follow ubuntu's official documentation above all else
[05:13] <cafuego> minerale: Ubuntu comes with the drivers prebuilt and prepackaged.
[05:13] <tritium> minerale: use ubuntu packages rather that a download off of nvidia.com or ati.com
[05:13] <orbin> ubotu: tell minerale about nvidia
[05:13] <crimson> cafuego: how do i force-install?
[05:13] <jjesse> how do i take a screen shot off the live cd?
[05:14] <tritium> !tell [D] ARKFENIX about enter
[05:14] <doms> how do i install a driver for my creative webcam to use ekiga
[05:14] <cafuego> crimson: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall libglib2.0-0=2.8.3-0ubuntu1
[05:14] <orbin> jjesse: sys>screenshot
[05:14] <hanasaki> hmm so gnoppix vs unbuntu live? pros/cons?
[05:14] <[D] ARKFENIX> tritium : ok sorry
[05:15] <pip_> hello
[05:15] <jjesse> orbin: sorry i usually use kubuntu is that the system menu and then screenshot?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> hanasaki,  the knoppix dvd - version has a LOT more programs . and a lot of neat features.
[05:15] <minerale> cafuego, tritium: the nvidia drivers from ubuntu have severe problems, I have flickering and little 'underscores" showing all the time
[05:15] <orbin> jjesse: in gnome, yes.  don't know how kde works
[05:15] <hanasaki> and the cd?  hmm anyreason we cant put the same inot the ubuntu live?
[05:15] <tritium> minerale: do as you wish, then
[05:16] <jjesse> orbin: hmm don't see that on  the live cd
[05:16] <orbin> jjesse: well, you're running kde, not gnome .. .ask in #kubuntu
[05:16] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: hombre, me diz que haces, caramba!
[05:16] <crimson> cafuego: i re-installed it but it's still mismatched
[05:16] <holycow> what is the name ofthe package for the app that sits in applications typically and is labeled 'add applications'?
[05:16] <jjesse> orbin: usuing a ubuntu live  cd
[05:16] <jjesse> orbin: i normally use kubuntu, want to take some screenshots of ubuntu
[05:16] <orbin> jjesse: oh, then it should be systgem>take screenshot
[05:16] <crimson> cafuego: i might need to manually uninstall 2.8.6
[05:16] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone: hago una aplicacion que apague el pc a una hora sin tener k usar la shell
[05:17] <_jason> holycow: gnome-app-install
[05:17] <[D] ARKFENIX> i'm lazy (lol)
[05:17] <phewl> how do you unzip a .bin file
[05:17] <[D] ARKFENIX> it's impossible
[05:17] <daveCB> Where should i copy new ttf fonts files on ubuntu?
[05:17] <holycow> thx j
[05:17] <_jason> phewl: only zips can be unzipped
[05:17] <Garuda> hey mother fucker
[05:17] <orbin> you don't. you usually run them
[05:17] <[D] ARKFENIX> a bin is a bin
[05:17] <phewl> mk
[05:17] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: caramba! you gusta de clicki-cliki, eh?
[05:17] <phewl> how do you EXTRACT  a .bin file
[05:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell daveCB about fonts
[05:18] <[D] ARKFENIX> just execute it
[05:18] <[D] ARKFENIX> first chmod +x
[05:18] <[D] ARKFENIX> and then go to term and copy the exact route of the app
[05:18] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone : si me gusta mucho
[05:19] <[D] ARKFENIX> is good to know 2 or more languages
[05:20] <tritium> !tell [D] ARKFENIX about enter
[05:20] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: tu postars ton applicativo en el gnome-files?
[05:20] <[D] ARKFENIX> how i know where is the value stored at "zenity --entry"
[05:20] <crimson> how do i remove glib-2.8.6?
[05:21] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobexone : ahi si no te entendi - I can't understand you sorry
[05:21] <_jason> crimson: how did you install it?
[05:21] <crimson> _jason: ./configure make make-install
[05:21] <[D] ARKFENIX> if is by apt-get just put apt-get remove <package>
[05:21] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: will you post it at gnome-files.org ? :)
[05:22] <_jason> crimson: heh well you can try make uninstall in the source directory and see if that was provided
[05:22] <slavik> crimson: no checkinstall?
[05:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone : it is a little script of 3 or 4 lines , i think it's very easy to do for a normal linux user
[05:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> however if you need it just tell me
[05:22] <crimson> _jason: make uninstall might be working
[05:23] <crimson> slavik: no checkinstall
[05:23] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: hmm.. just curious. Can a "real" program be made using zenity, or not really?
[05:23] <crimson> slavik: uninstall is still working
[05:23] <[D] ARKFENIX> i dont think so
[05:24] <ASTX813> Anyone tried using a google calendar in evolution using CalDAV?  I've been able to add my google calendar as a webcal, but I want CalDAV since webcal is readonly.
[05:24] <ASTX813> When I add as CalDAV, evolution crashes
[05:24] <[D] ARKFENIX> because a real program needs a lot of dialog boxes , and it will be very embarassing to call zenity everytime
[05:24] <danl> are there any packages or programs to use my modem with my mic and such as a ohone
[05:24] <danl> *phone
[05:25] <jobezone> yes, you're right. only programs which work like a wizard are possible
[05:25] <[D] ARKFENIX> yeah
[05:28] <NickGarvey> whe compiling from source, the program should out detect what bit processor I have and act accordingly? (I have a 64 bit)
[05:28] <FearMoth> I installed lirc from source because I couldn't get the .deb package to work. what am I supposed to do with /etc/lircd.conf ? it's empty, and when I try irrecord /etc/lircd.conf I get this error: irrecord: file "/etc/lircd.conf" does not contain valid data
[05:30] <crimson> _jason: that uninstalled it, thank you
[05:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell crimson about checkinstall
[05:30] <_jason> crimson: in the future, try to use checkinstall instead of make install
[05:30] <doms> how do i install a driver for my creative webcam to use ekiga
[05:30] <orbin> NickGarvey: don't they ususally provide different tarballs for different archs?
[05:31] <NickGarvey> orbin: not sure, I haven't seen any for most things so thats what made me ask the question :)
[05:32] <doms> how do i install a driver for my creative webcam to use ekiga
[05:32] <orbin> doms: have you tried the forum?
[05:32] <Elive_user> uh, ok so this is the first time i've used irc so forgive the dumb stuff
[05:32] <tritium> doms: please be patient.  Repeating won't help
[05:33] <Daskies> Is there a way to play .asx in Ubuntu?
[05:33] <doms> is their any ice candy for ubuntu
[05:34] <doms> dapper drake
[05:34] <_jason> ice candy?
[05:34] <bimberi> hi Elive_user and welcome :)
[05:34] <orbin> NickGarvey: my guess is unless they provide specific 64 bit source, it'll be compiled as 32bit
[05:34] <orbin> NickGarvey: but like i said, i'm guessing
[05:34] <doms> yup to make my gdm look-art
[05:34] <_jason> Daskies: .asx is usually a wrapper for wmv, I can play them with mplayer and w32codecs
[05:34] <jerrykb> anyone have any luck with a HP Deskjet 3520 printer & Breezy?  I can get it to respond but it's just printing blank pages, although it goes through the motions like it's printing something.  Checked ink, etc. Windows prints ok.  nothing of help on forums.
[05:34] <Elive_user> i just installed ubuntu 5.10 on my toshiba laptop and i can't get the LAN to work, it shows up as eth0 and active, dhcp and so on, I can ping out to sites, it says i'm sending and recieving packages yet I can't firefox and chat won't work or anything
[05:34] <Elive_user> any ideas? Thanks in advance!
[05:34] <Daskies> _jason, How would I get those?
[05:34] <_jason> ubotu: tell Daskies about mplayer
[05:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell Daskies about w32codecs
[05:35] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone are you there?
[05:35] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: yes
[05:35] <ASTX813> Oh, maybe the problem is that google calendar isn't a CalDAV ata ll...
[05:35] <[D] ARKFENIX> if you need my script i've finished it
[05:35] <[D] ARKFENIX> it's only 3 lines
[05:36] <[D] ARKFENIX> but pm me
[05:36] <tritium> [D] ARKFENIX: I've already told you about enter
[05:36] <jobezone> Elive_user: you can ping a site, but not view it with firefox? What if you put the ip of a website on firefox? like put 66.35.250.151 in the adress box in firefox.
[05:37] <Elive_user> hold on let me check
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> http://66.35.250.151  he means
[05:38] <doms> does anyone knows what packe for GUI in postgresql 8.0
[05:38] <Elive_user> jo: its loading halfway and then stops or is really really slow
[05:38] <doms> does anyone knows what package for GUI in postgresql 8.0
[05:38] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: nice. 3 lines.
[05:38] <_jason> ASTX813: hmm where would I tell evolution about my private iCal url for google cal?
[05:38] <Elive_user> but using the ip it got further than just typing in a reg. address
[05:39] <ASTX813> _jason New -> Calendar
[05:39] <_jason> ASTX813: thanks
[05:40] <ASTX813> But it's readonly
[05:40] <ASTX813> Trying to figure out a way to make it r/w
[05:40] <jobezone> Elive_user: but talking in irc works fine, right? It's only the speed of firefox loading pages?
[05:40] <Elive_user> i'm on my roommates computer. :)
[05:40] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone : i've to go , if you need me talk to me by msn (shpr2005@gmail.com)i'm learning about linux script and it will be good for learn with somebody else
[05:42] <Elive_user> and yea just tried the xchat and it fails when connecting to a channel
[05:42] <jobezone> Elive_user: well, I'm not that knowledgable with network problems... but it seems a problem with a misconfigured DNS
[05:43] <jobezone> Elive_user: conecting to a irc server works?
[05:43] <Elive_user> no dosen't work
[05:43] <Elive_user> dns...would that be on my end or someone else's end?
[05:43] <jerrykb> Elive_user: did you say you could ping sites successfully?
[05:44] <Elive_user> yes i can
[05:44] <hokatichenci> When i apt-get install apache2 from my fresh ubuntu server install it asks for the badger cdrom in the drive, why?
[05:44] <jerrykb> Elive_user and were you using the www address or IP #?
[05:44] <Elive_user> www addresss
[05:44] <jerrykb> hmm.
[05:44] <dark_fibre> what can you do with a cluster? does drbl work on diskless systems?
[05:44] <jobezone> Elive_user: so it's not a DNS problem.
[05:44] <jerrykb> Well it seems DNS is working
[05:45] <jerrykb> Elive_user: have you tried another browser?  dillo or epiphany, etc?
[05:45] <orbin> hokatichenci: you have the cdrom enabled as a repository source. disable it
[05:45] <Elive_user> no not yet
[05:45] <hokatichenci> orbin, where would i do that?
[05:45] <tritium> hokatichenci: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:45] <orbin> hokatichenci: either w/ synaptic, or by editing sources.list
[05:45] <Elive_user> but neither the evolution mail or chat works either so its not just firefox
[05:46] <gfxstyler> yo
[05:46] <hokatichenci> ahh
[05:46] <hokatichenci> that did it, thanks :)
[05:46] <jerrykb> Elive_user: is roommates computer the same connection you're trying to use on yours?
[05:46] <dracflamloc> how can i get my computers fan to not spin at max all the time? i'm running an amd64 3200+?
[05:46] <crimson> _jason: I used checkinstall, but got this error message a few times: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:46] <Elive_user> yes. and he has elive if that makes a differnece
[05:46] <gfxstyler> dracflamloc: did you try powernowd ?
[05:46] <_jason> crimson: do you have another apt process open?
[05:46] <doms> were i can download w32codecs
[05:46] <_jason> !w32codecs
[05:46] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:47] <dracflamloc> gfxstyler, it says it cant find cpufreq
[05:47] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  in termial sudo ifconfig and compare between the two machines?  may spot something there?
[05:47] <crimson> _jason: not that I know of
[05:48] <gfxstyler> dracflamloc: add some cpufreq modules to /etc/modules
[05:48] <_jason> crimson: did you kill any apt or dpkg process before it finished what it was doing?
[05:48] <Elive_user> i'll try that, if something is different between the two how do i change it?
[05:48] <gfxstyler> dracflamloc: like cpufreq_powersave, cpufreq_ondemand, cpufreq_performance, cpufreq_conservative
[05:48] <crimson> _jason: i didn't, no
[05:48] <_jason> crimson: ps aux | grep apt
[05:48] <jerrykb> Elive_user should be able to change it with ifconfig.
[05:48] <gfxstyler> dracflamloc: then do a reboot :)
[05:49] <jerrykb> Elive_user: or in System > Administration > Networking
[05:49] <Daskies> _jason, Late, but thanks, are there any other handy codex's?
[05:49] <Elive_user> *looking*
[05:50] <Elive_user> its the same in networking, i checked that
[05:50] <_jason> Daskies: what do you mean late?
[05:50] <Daskies> _jason, Late on my part. You helped a while ago, and I had yet to say thanks
[05:51] <_jason> Daskies: oh, np :)
[05:51] <Manderson> Hi all,
[05:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell Daskies about multimedia
[05:51] <dracflamloc> ok..
[05:51] <dracflamloc> does anyone else know how to get powernowd working?
[05:52] <Manderson>  Long time ago, I came across a program (I think it was on knoppix) that was like a game where you "fly around" in a virutal space, and this "space" is your filesystem. It's like a graphical way of exploring the filesystem. Does anyone know which program this was?
[05:53] <jerrykb> that sounds so familiar..
[05:53] <Manderson> It's been driving me crazy trying to remember/find it.
[05:53] <Daskies> _jason, thanks again, is there a list of nice apps laying around?
[05:53] <jobezone> dracflamloc: I think you just need to install the package powernowd.
[05:53] <blind> google ittttttt
[05:54] <blind> "game, explore, filesystem"
[05:54] <blind> brb
[05:54] <Manderson> I'll try.
[05:54] <dracflamloc> jobezone, i did. it says it cant find cpuinfo_max_freq
[05:54] <_jason> Daskies: not that I know of, the wiki has a few on particular subjects.  Like the multimedia one, p2p
[05:54] <blind> woah
[05:55] <blind> i know this probably isn't what you were talking about, but the screenshot is visually impressive. http://www.tactile3d.com/
[05:55] <liquidindian> This should be easy, but I can't find anything on it.  How do I change default programs for, say, video?
[05:55] <dark_fibre> Manderson, http://fsv.sourceforge.net/?
[05:55] <jobezone> if you search for "Jurassic Park" and trivia, it should say
[05:55] <dracflamloc> hm, it says my cpu sint supported
[05:55] <Daskies> _jason, Is there anything better than Frostwire for p2p
[05:55] <blind> !tell liquidindian about defaultapp
[05:55] <jobezone> since that program was used in the movie.
[05:55] <dracflamloc> how can i have linux dynamicaly change the fan speed?
[05:56] <jobezone> dracflamloc: ahh, because you need to add some modules. wait a sec.
[05:56] <liquidindian> Thanks!
[05:56] <_jason> Daskies: I prefer frostwire, there is also gtk-gnutella that a lot of epople seem to like
[05:56] <Daskies> _jason, Thanks
[05:56] <Daskies> Again
[05:57] <Manderson> fsv might be it...
[05:57] <jobezone> dracflamloc: you need to load cpufreq_userspace and another specific to your cpu...
[05:57] <dark_fibre> looks pretty cool anyway
[05:57] <ASTX813> Has anyone used CalDAV in Evolution?
[05:57] <jobezone> dracflamloc: in my case it's powernow-k8
[05:57] <jerrykb> Manderson: sounds right.
[05:57] <_jason> Daskies: this may or not be helpful to you http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[05:57] <dracflamloc> jobezone, what would it be for an amd64 3200+?
[05:58] <jobezone> to load a module, you do 'sudo modprobe <module_name>'
[05:58] <Manderson> the version I remember using was very basic though...no fancy graphics...just old school looking (think star wars graphics) vector lines
[05:58] <FearMoth> I have a script to start lirc in /etc/init.d, but update-rc.d lirc doesn't do anything, it just gives me the help screen. howcome?
[05:58] <jerrykb> Manderson there's screens on fsv.sourceforge.net  might be a newer version.
[05:58] <Daskies> Oh, _jason, last thing is there an IE clone for Ubuntu, for devolpment?
[05:58] <gozz> ok guys i hav done every thing i can to get fglrx to work right by following this tut. could somone check it out cause it cant be right? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:58] <jobezone> dracflamloc: hm.... I don't no... but there is a way you can 'browse' through the modules you have, and can load. run 'sudo modconf' (you may need to install modconf).
[05:59] <Manderson> jerrykb - thanks I'll give it a shot
[05:59] <_jason> Daskies: not that I know of, but you can get ie to run under wine
[05:59] <gozz> i have tried every way listed here and it doesnt work
[05:59] <gozz> im not new to linux just ubuntu
[05:59] <jobezone> dracflamloc: and search for a category called cpufreq
[06:00] <gozz> i get gl but very slow
[06:00] <Elive_user> ok, in network settings we're both the same and I can't get to ifconfig using the elive terminal (it dosen't do anything)
[06:00] <felipe_> /part #
[06:01] <dark_fibre> does anyone know what you can do with a cluster?
[06:02] <orbin> is that a trivia question? :-/
[06:02] <dranyam> anyone ever installed ubuntu on a machine that doesnt have a boot from cd option in the bios
[06:02] <dranyam> ?
[06:03] <blind> doesn't have?
[06:03] <mustard5> dranyam, there is a way I believe
[06:03] <gozz> throw that thing in the trash
[06:03] <mustard5> dranyam, you can boot from a floppy that can start the CD up
[06:03] <mustard5> !smarboot
[06:03] <ubotu> mustard5: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:03] <mustard5> !smartboot
[06:03] <ubotu> smartboot is probably If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:03] <mjb> can anyone field a simple apt-get qn?
[06:04] <dranyam> i read some stuff
[06:04] <blind> "configure: error: Cannot find gtkglarea" -- neither can I. I installed "gtkglarea5" cause it's in the repos, but that doesn't seem to be it. anyone have any suggestions?
[06:04] <dranyam> that told me to take if off the ubuntu disc
[06:04] <dranyam> but
[06:04] <dranyam> its too big to fit on a floppy
[06:04] <dranyam> :/
[06:04] <orbin> mjb: just ask :)
[06:04] <jerrykb> gtkglarea5-dev?
[06:04] <dracflamloc> ugh
[06:04] <XhyldazhK> hi all!! what is the cleanest way to make a .deb, like one about to be submitted for approval to Canonical?
[06:04] <blind> jerrykb, i'll try it
[06:05] <mjb> cheers my available files missing... apt-get update doesn't seem to rewrite
[06:05] <mustard5> which thing did you take of the Ubuntu CD?
[06:05] <blind> jerrykb, thanks. it worked. haha
[06:05] <dracflamloc> my cpu fan is spinning full speed when it doesnt have to be. how can i have ubuntu autmatically speed the fan depedning on its load or whatever? i have an amd64 3200+?
[06:05] <jerrykb> Welcome :-)
[06:05] <mustard5> dranyam, which thing did you take of the Ubuntu CD?
[06:05] <jerrykb> mjb:  using sudo?
[06:05] <mjb> yep
[06:05] <mjb> hang on i'll make sure
[06:05] <jerrykb> mjb:  /etc/apt/sources.list look all in order?
[06:06] <mjb> yep
[06:06] <hokatichenci> is there a way to upgrade mysql client to 4.1 without dumping mysql-common and requiring gcc and everything else?
[06:06] <Elive_user> jerrykb still with me?
[06:06] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  yeah still here, sorry if I didn't see something.
[06:06] <fid_> have a question for someone.  If I want windows to be the default o.s grub boots to, how do I edit the menu.lst file to make that happen?
[06:06] <cafuego> !info mysql-client
[06:06] <ubotu> mysql-client: (mysql database client binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 403 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[06:06] <cafuego> !info mysql-client-4.1
[06:06] <ubotu> mysql-client-4.1: (mysql database client binaries), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 845 kB, Installed size: 1876 kB
[06:07] <Elive_user> no prob, i said in network settings we have the same settings and i can't get to ifconfig using elives terminal (it dosen't do anything)
[06:07] <cafuego> I expect it'll at *least* require mysql-common-4.1 and libmysqlclient
[06:07] <mustard5> fid_, you change the value in menu.lst which is currently set at something like 'default=0'
[06:07] <blind> Does anyone have any experience with fsv?
[06:07] <fid_> oh ok
[06:07] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  I'm unfamiliar with elive... is network cabled or wireless?
[06:07] <mustard5> fid_, count down the menu entries starting with zero
[06:07] <jerrykb> blind:  i'm compiling it right now.
[06:07] <Elive_user> cabled
[06:08] <mustard5> fid_, grub always counts from zero
[06:08] <orbin> fid_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[06:08] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  I know it sounds basic but have you checked card seating, cables, etc?
[06:08] <Elive_user> lol, yea
[06:08] <hanasaki> anyone have the link to where it says ubuntu live is a gnome live?
[06:08] <Elive_user> i wish it was something that simple
[06:08] <fid_> hmmm
[06:08] <fid_> is it the chainloader option?
[06:09] <jerrykb> Elive_user: networking problems are always such a pain.
[06:09] <cafuego> fid_: yes
[06:09] <Elive_user> day four without internet...i'm going into withdrawl
[06:09] <fid_> so change the windows one to +0 and the others to +1?
[06:09] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  I'm at a bit of a loss for ideas.  Is network card PCMCIA or onboard?
[06:09] <cafuego> fid_: NO
[06:09] <mustard5> fid_, no
[06:09] <doms> were i can download w32codecs
[06:09] <doms> were i can download w32codecs
[06:09] <doms> were i can download w32codecs
[06:09] <Elive_user> onboard
[06:09] <mjb> jerrykb: just updating now ... getting .. Preconfiguring packages ...
[06:09] <mjb> dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[06:09] <mjb> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[06:09] <cafuego> doms: Stop spamming
[06:10] <_jason> doms: we told you this already
[06:10] <mustard5> fid_, look at the link above that orbin pasted
[06:10] <gaixixon> hi all..
[06:10] <cafuego> !tell doms -about restrictedformats
[06:10] <Elive_user> could you tell me what driver i'm supposed to be running and maybe i could try re-installing it or something?
[06:10] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  checked bios for any settings?
[06:10] <Elive_user> what settings should i check for?
[06:11] <mustard5> fid_, you used the pastebin before?
[06:11] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  I'm not sure, I've never used computers with onboard ethernet, sorry.
[06:11] <dranyam> thanks guys
[06:11] <dranyam> worked
[06:11] <dranyam> you rock
[06:12] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  but you might look to see if there's any configuration for it in the bios
[06:12] <mustard5> dranyam, what did you do? :)
[06:12] <Elive_user> I'm looking now
[06:12] <dranyam> no cd rom boot option
[06:13] <dranyam> heh
[06:13] <mustard5> dranyam, ah ok..so you worked it out k :)
[06:13] <dranyam> thanks
[06:13] <dranyam> and yes
[06:13] <Elive_user> is there a fire wall or something that comes with ubuntu i should look for
[06:13] <dranyam> oh noez
[06:13] <mustard5> Elive_user, basically its built in by default
[06:13] <dranyam> low memory mode
[06:13] <dranyam> :0
[06:13] <jerrykb> Elive_user: not by default.
[06:13] <mjb> re the apt-get issue after sudo apt-get update I still get  jerrykb: just updating now ... getting .. Preconfiguring packages ...
[06:13] <mjb> mjb dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[06:13] <mjb> mjb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[06:13] <cafuego> Elive_user: Nothing that's enabled by default, though it's built-in.
[06:13] <Elive_user> and network boot protocol cant be changed is that what im looking for
[06:14] <Elive_user> in the bios
[06:14] <hyphenated> Elive_user: no, you're looking for options about enabling hardware
[06:14] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  no, that i believe is for booting like a thin client... (?)
[06:14] <hyphenated> Elive_user: eg: a setting for the on-board modem, on-board wireless, and on-board ethernet. they can usually be enabled/disabled in bios
[06:15] <jerrykb> mjb:  checking.
[06:15] <mjb> thanks
[06:15] <fid_> ok that is just confusing me
[06:15] <mustard5> fid_, you used the pastebin before?
[06:15] <Elive_user> built in LAN is enabled
[06:15] <fid_> ya
[06:15] <Elive_user> and thats about all it says
[06:15] <mustard5> fid_, pastebin the menu.lst and show me the URL
[06:15] <dracflamloc> sweet, i got powernowd to load
[06:16] <fid_> do i just add the command savedefault to the windows one and make it +0?
[06:16] <dracflamloc> detects my cpu. but how can i tell it to stop spinning the fan so fast?
[06:16] <jerrykb> mjb:  Make an empty available file (touch /var/lib/dpkg/available).
[06:16] <mustard5> fid_, no..not exactly
[06:16] <blind> how can i chmod every file in a directory, and all the children directories?
[06:16] <mjb> ok
[06:16] <mustard5> fid_, your half right and half wrong :)
[06:16] <fid_> whats the half wrong part?
[06:16] <mustard5> fid_, pastebin the menu.lst
[06:16] <fid_> hehe
[06:16] <fid_> ok
[06:16] <blind> I tried "find -name '*' -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 766" but everything it tried to chmod, it gave me "operation not permitted"
[06:17] <mjb> doing that now
[06:17] <orbin> blind: chomd -R xxx /dir
[06:17] <orbin> blind: be careful what /dir you pass though
[06:17] <blind> why?
[06:18] <orbin> blind: well, if you chmod the wrong dir....
[06:18] <mustard5> blind, cause it will destry things if you are not careful :)
[06:18] <mjb> thats done the trick... thanks jerry.
[06:18] <fid_> http://pastebin.com/684350
[06:18] <blind> Well "chmod -R 766 ." would do everything in the current dir, and everything child, correct?
[06:18] <mustard5> fid_, looking now...
[06:18] <RobNyc> anyone here has a intel i810 / intel corp 82810E DC-133 CGC
[06:18] <jerrykb> mjb:  welcome :-)
[06:19] <mustard5> fid_, see line 12  'default=0' ?
[06:20] <fid_> yes
[06:20] <mustard5> fid_, change it to default=5
[06:20] <fid_> oh ok
[06:20] <jerrykb> who was asking about fsv?  I just got it built/installed.  Nifty looking thing.
[06:20] <orbin> blind: i think so.  otherwise, do a cd.. up if that doesn't work
[06:20] <mustard5> fid_, that will start the 'sixth' menu entry by default (cause grub counts starting with zero)
[06:20] <blind> it worked, orbin
[06:20] <blind> thanks
[06:21] <fid_> ok thats what was throwing me off
[06:21] <orbin> yw
[06:21] <fid_> so just change that to five save and I'm good to go right?
[06:21] <mustard5> fid_, you should be yes
[06:21] <fid_> k
[06:21] <fid_> thanks mang
[06:21] <mustard5> fid_, good luck :)
[06:22] <fid_> gonna try that now
[06:23] <mustard5> doh
[06:24] <orbin> mustard5: there's actually an alternative method to the numbering: savedefault
[06:25] <mustard5> orbin, yeah, sometimes people have savedefault on multiple menu entries though..(not in this case though)
[06:25] <mustard5> orbin, he only had savedefault on the windows line
[06:25] <liquidindian> Argh.  Someone told me earlier how remap keys in GTK apps, and I forgot.
[06:26] <liquidindian> Can anyone remind me?
[06:26] <mustard5> orbin, if he had it on the first breezy entry as well then it would savedefault on breezy next time he used breezy
[06:26] <orbin> mustard5: yeah, i'm not sure how it works actually, i just thought i knew that there was an alternative
[06:26] <mustard5> orbin, he doesnt though, so yeah, your method would have worked :)
[06:26] <FearMoth> hi, I've got lirc_serial in my /etc/modules but it's not loading. when I try to modprobe lirc_serial, it says: FATAL: Error inserting lirc_serial (/lib/modules/2.6.15-21-686/misc/lirc_serial.ko): Operation not permitted ...  howcome? how can I get lirc started automatically at boot?
[06:27] <orbin> liquidindian: i can't find anything about you asking how to remap stuff in the chat buffer
[06:27] <mustard5> orbin, the problem I think with his menu.lst is he has an entry which acts as a title before the windows option, so I think I may have needed to add one to my final count :)
[06:27] <orbin> except for the !defaultapp thing
[06:28] <FearMoth> oh no, it says "Device or resource busy" until I setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart none
[06:28] <liquidindian> It was a couple of hours ago.  Someone said dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it confused me.
[06:28] <liquidindian> Isn't X an alternative to Gnome?  Or have I got things wrong?
[06:29] <TylerWalts> what is the equivilent in ubuntu for "modules.conf", aka  "conf.modules"  ?
[06:29] <orbin> liquidindian: i'll probably get it wrong, but X is the window system. gnome runs on top of it
[06:29] <mustard5> liquidindian, I would think that gnome 'uses' X to do its thing
[06:30] <liquidindian> Ahh.  That makes sense.
[06:30] <mzuverink> what do i need to edit to be able to log into webmin?
[06:31] <liquidindian> And is GTK something used by gnome?
[06:31] <mustard5> liquidindian, yeah
[06:31] <mustard5> liquidindian, I think the 'G' stands for Gnome actually
[06:31] <mustard5> liquidindian, if I recall correctly :)
[06:31] <dj-fu> gtk is the gnome widget toolkit
[06:31] <sixpoint2> hi
[06:32] <jerrykb> ... thought gtk was gimp toolkit
[06:32] <sixpoint2> how do I do a network install of ubuntu ?
[06:32] <mzuverink> I thought it was gimp tool kit
[06:32] <mustard5> ah ok
[06:32] <orbin> liquidindian: gnome toolkit.  it's the interface stuff that gnome apps are written with ... i think
[06:32] <sixpoint2> as in the machine boots off of the lan ?
[06:32] <tritium> mzuverink: you are correct
[06:32] <dj-fu> apt-cache show libgtk2.0-0
[06:32] <orbin> mzuverink: it is?
[06:32] <mustard5> yeah it is gimp tool kit ..doh.sorry
[06:32] <doms> what does  mean a cube mode in desktop
[06:32] <liquidindian> So if I change something in the X configuration, it will change in gnome, too.
[06:32] <dj-fu> gimp tool kit? lol
[06:32] <mzuverink> yeah, google gtk definition its the top link
[06:33] <dj-fu> The GTK+ graphical user interface library The GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces.
[06:33] <janinux2005> wolas
[06:33] <jerrykb> okay i'm from ye olde startx camp... using gdm, what file do I put commands in to have programs start when I start up gnome? (heh)
[06:33] <mzuverink> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gtk
[06:33] <mustard5> liquidindian, I really don't know how to remap the keys, so I won't comment :)
[06:33] <matthew_w> Hey guys, what's XGL/Compiz?
[06:34] <FearMoth> lirc_serial isn't being loaded at boot because the serial port's busy (?) .. can I just throw "setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart none" into my lirc startup script in /etc/init.d ? or is something else really using the port?
[06:34] <dj-fu> jerrykb, system >prefs > sessions
[06:34] <jerrykb> dj-fu: thank you
[06:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> matthew_w: It's an OpenGL accelerated Xserver and compositing manager.
[06:34] <sixpoint2> matthew_w: google it
[06:34] <liquidindian> Basically my - key was broken in an earthquake, and I'm sick of copy pasting it.
[06:34] <doms> what does  mean a cube mode in desktop
[06:34] <sixpoint2> and windows manager
[06:34] <sixpoint2> *window manager
[06:34] <liquidindian> It makes using bash a tad difficult.
[06:35] <doms> and how do i user cube mode in my gnome
[06:35] <doms> and how do i use cube mode in my gnome
[06:35] <dj-fu> lol
[06:35] <matthew_w> I've been googling it
[06:35] <dj-fu> CUBE MODE!
[06:35] <orbin> doms: never heard of it.  url to what you're looking at?
[06:35] <mustard5> liquidindian, thats a pretty specialised problem :)
[06:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doms: Cube mode is a feature of Xgl/compiz where you have multpile desktops on multiple sides of a cube, and you get a cute animation when you switch between them.
[06:35] <sixpoint2> anyone have any idea how I would do a netboot install ?
[06:35] <dj-fu> matthew_w, if you want to use it, you'll need to run Ubuntu Dapper Drake (#ubuntu+1,#ubuntu-xgl)
[06:35] <lewing> matthew_w: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl
[06:35] <hokatichenci> I've got apache2 running with php5 and I want mysql 4.1, mysql-client-4.1 is installed, mysql to the server manually works, but when I connect through php it says that the client needs to be upgraded
[06:36] <matthew_w> Some people have been talking about it being so revolutionary, all I've been able to come up with is it making your desktop into a cube X_X
[06:36] <hokatichenci> Is there a 4.1+ php5-mysql or is there something I need to do?
[06:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> matthew_w: And your windows will bounce like Jell-O cubes! :o)
[06:36] <dj-fu> It's the platform to revolution, in it's self, it is not revolutionary
[06:36] <orbin> sixpoint2: as in over a network?
[06:36] <doms> yes that was what i mean
[06:36] <matthew_w> "revolutionary"
[06:36] <doms> how can i use that xgl
[06:36] <tritium> !xgl
[06:36] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doms: Install Dapper, then install xserver-xgl and compiz-gnome.
[06:37] <dj-fu> I don't find it usefull at all, infact, I've gone back to a direct rendered 2d desktop.
[06:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dj-fu: sam
[06:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *same
[06:37] <doms> yeah i have dapper
[06:37] <dj-fu> the _only_ thing i've managed to do with it is show off to windows kiddies bragging about vista
[06:37] <mustard5> dj-fu, yeah I looked at the demo live CD and felt I could live without it :)
[06:37] <doms> compiz gnome thats all
[06:37] <dj-fu> take it to #ubuntu+1,#ubuntu-xgl guys
[06:37] <dj-fu> the poor breezy people will cry
[06:38] <matthew_w> Seems like more of a pain than it's worth
[06:38] <doms> compiz gnome cant affect my gnome desktop
[06:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !netinstall
[06:38] <ubotu> methinks netinstall is To install Ubuntu via the net, try here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75372 ... Breezy netboot CD image: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[06:38] <doms> no nvidia driver needed
[06:38] <dj-fu> It's not really hard to install, it's just not useful.
[06:39] <dj-fu> sure I can spin my cube, la di da, and have "true" transparency
[06:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doms: It can, to a certain extent - you are, after all, using a different Xserver.  I found themes and keyboard shortcuts to be broken when I was using it, for example.
[06:39] <dj-fu> but yawn, I can't play ut2005
[06:39] <doms> only xervser-xgl and gnome compiz-gnome
[06:39] <doms> owsssssss
[06:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yeah, Xgl needs some sort of pass-through mode for games and stuff.
[06:39] <dj-fu> yup
[06:39] <matthew_w> Also, is there anything at all beyond wine for running the 10,000 M$ games that I currently can't?
[06:39] <dj-fu> cedega
[06:39] <dj-fu> is beyond wine
[06:40] <dj-fu> dual booting with your favourite pirated version of windows is > wine, tool.
[06:40] <dj-fu> -l
[06:40] <matthew_w> Isn't cedega basically a commercialized version of wine?
[06:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ReactOS, as it matures. :)
[06:40] <sixpoint2> by netinstall I dont have any media to into the machine, just a hard drive
[06:40] <sixpoint2> so I want to netboot it off my laptop
[06:40] <dj-fu> cedega is wine with some more work on directx
[06:40] <doms> how do i run compiz-gnome i hav finish install xserver-xgl and compiz-gnome what should i do to animate
[06:40] <sixpoint2> as in mount the image on my laptop and have it boot from there
[06:40] <tritium> doms: read the wiki howto I had ubotu give you the URL for
[06:40] <booht> can anyone tell me some good fast ubuntu packport mirrors?
[06:40] <dj-fu> PXE boot, sixpoint2 ?
[06:41] <dj-fu> !sources
[06:41] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:41] <miguelsr> hey
[06:41] <matthew_w> Hrm... How much of a difference is there really between Cedega and Wine?
[06:41] <sixpoint2> yes
[06:41] <mustard5> matthew_w, cedega has a nice interface :)
[06:41] <matthew_w> That's what I thought
[06:41] <orbin> i heard it was wine + directx ... am i wrong?
[06:41] <mustard5> matthew_w, and directx support
[06:42] <dj-fu> WoW still doesn' run with it, so I cry, and I dualboot.
[06:42] <matthew_w> But that doesn't make sense to me, for example, I play diabloII fine with wine
[06:42] <dj-fu> To think I paid for cedega, and it still doesn't work 
[06:42] <doms> how do i run compiz-gnome i hav finish install xserver-xgl and compiz-gnome what should i do to animate
[06:42] <matthew_w> But diabloII needs DirectX, so... no sense to me
[06:42] <dj-fu> d2/d2x can run in OpenGL iirc?
[06:42] <matthew_w> doms did you upgrade to dapper? lol
[06:42] <doms> yes
[06:43] <doms> flight 6
[06:43] <dj-fu> doms, take a look here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351 - that's what I used 
[06:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doms: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto has instructions on replacing xorg with xgl and metacity with compiz.
[06:43] <dj-fu> that wiki is a bad idea ^
[06:43] <doms> why
[06:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dj-fu: It's in ubotu o_O
[06:43] <doms> is bad
[06:43] <matthew_w> Here's a problem; I installed Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II with Wine...
[06:43] <dj-fu> It just is.
[06:44] <matthew_w> And now when I play it it says "no cd drive found"
[06:44] <matthew_w> X_X
[06:44] <dj-fu> Repalcing the xorg symlink with xgl = bad. Follow my linky
[06:44] <doms> why is bad?
[06:44] <Madpilot> guys - XGL talk really should move to #ubuntu-xgl - thanks
[06:44] <orbin> matthew_w: #winehq
[06:45] <tritium> dj-fu: the wiki page explains how to revert
[06:45] <daaku> i'm trying to custom name my ethernet adapters using udev on dapper.. i've tried these rules: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12966
[06:45] <mustard5> matthew_w, have you tried changing the winecfg to XP/Win200 for that app?
[06:45] <dj-fu> It's still bad. lol. Ok, don't take my word for it 
[06:45] <matthew_w> Yea
[06:45] <matthew_w> I think I'll need a no-c
[06:45] <matthew_w> cd
[06:45] <mustard5> matthew_w, that might work
[06:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dj-fu: True, that link is much better.
[06:46] <daaku> anyone know what the correct syntax is to map a custom name to a ethernet adapter based on its mac address using udev?
[06:46] <narg> what would be the best way to chmod all files, but not directories, recursively?
[06:46] <matthew_w> Here's a newbie question:  How do I mount a filesystem with read/write access!
[06:46] <matthew_w> lol
[06:46] <daaku> narg: find with the type option and xargs
[06:47] <narg> daaku: thanks :)
[06:47] <mustard5> matthew_w, what filesystem type?
[06:47] <dj-fu> mount -o rw /dev/whatever /media/mountpoint
[06:47] <dj-fu> (as root)
[06:47] <dj-fu> if you're talking about ntfs or fat32, /msg ubotu ntfs
[06:49] <XhyldazhK> hey... how do i report a .deb that is ancient and that with almost no effort can be replaced with a more up to date version?
[06:49] <matthew_w> vfat
[06:49] <minerale> bah, I laugh upon thou, developer who categorizes my graphic card into nvidia-glx-legacy
[06:49] <dj-fu> !tell matthew_w about ntfs
[06:49] <dj-fu> read the wiki page, it'll tell you the right umask=XXXX options
[06:49] <dj-fu> I forget what they are. Converted everything to ext3 
[06:49] <dj-fu> vfat is a pita.
[06:50] <matthew_w> o-x
[06:50] <matthew_w> This used to be so simple
[06:50] <matthew_w> lol
[06:50] <XhyldazhK> vfat corrupts very easily
[06:50] <hokatichenci> Is there any way to get mysql 4.1 running with php5-mysql or do I need to compile php manually
[06:50] <daaku> matthew_w: there's also a way to set a default owner and group during mount time
[06:50] <dj-fu> and it has a max-file-size of 4gb (no 4gb+ dvd image!!)
[06:50] <minerale> tritium: ok here's the thing, it wasn't the drivers fault, my nvidia card was in the 'legacy' driver package, that's why I was having weird errors
[06:50] <mustard5> matthew_w, this link has a good explanation of mounting ntfs and fat too http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[06:51] <tritium> minerale: I see
[06:51] <minerale> tritium: the package info is actually wrong the GeForce4 MX is really a repackaged Geforce2 chipset
[06:51] <crimsun> tritium: the ipw2200 patch is currently unapplied (despite the changelog attribution); Matthew has already pinged Ben regarding it.
[06:52] <dj-fu> ipw2200?? I use one of those cards, something I should know about?
[06:52] <tritium> crimsun: is that so?  that's good to know.  How did you confirm this?
[06:52] <doms> how do i can get a postgresql with GUI environment i have finish installing a postgresql 8.0
[06:52] <tritium> dj-fu: it's a halt/reboot issue mostly affecting Toshiba laptops
[06:52] <dj-fu> ah. I have an acer
[06:52] <crimsun> tritium: Matthew applied the patch cleanly, thereby confirming his suspicion that it wasn't applied.
[06:52] <matthew_w> blech... too much effort.  haha
[06:53] <orbin> XhyldazhK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[06:53] <XhyldazhK> thanks!
[06:53] <tritium> crimsun: super news :)
[06:54] <doms> how do i can get a postgresql with GUI environment i have finish installing a postgresql 8.0
[06:54] <tritium> doms: please don't repeat
[06:54] <doms> ok
[06:54] <cafuego> doms: postgres is an SQL server + command line client. Any GUI would be external (check phppgadmin)
[06:54] <mustard5> Any ever experienced a symptom where the drumbeat keeps going over and over again at the gdm login screen?
[06:55] <cafuego> I assume oobase cna talk to postgres too.
[06:55] <mustard5> I've sort of worked around it by adding irqpoll to my startup
[06:56] <mustard5> My system seems to be having trouble allocating IRQ's I think
[06:56] <minerale> How do I get tab completion on apt-get install packages? It seems to work on some of my systems but not on others
[06:56] <doms> is phppgadmin is a gui front-end of PHP
[06:57] <hokatichenci> phppgadmin is php based, its like phpmyadmin, you use it over apache2
[06:57] <hokatichenci> or any webserver rather
[06:57] <dj-fu> tab completion on apt-get install packages? i've *never* seen that
[06:57] <dj-fu> tab completion is a part of BASH, afaik
[06:57] <orbin> minerale: tab complete on the package name?
[06:59] <orbin> mustard5: heard of that drum loop thing.  it's in the forum somewhere
[06:59] <GigaClon> does GNOME have an equal to Kompare?
[07:00] <hyphenated> kompare is awesome
[07:00] <mustard5> orbin, k..I'll have a look around. :)
[07:00] <rothga1> I cannot seem to install lame in 6.06  I have tried apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly.  It looks like it installed but when I try to build mythtv it gives me the error that I need to have the LAME MP3 encoding library installed.  I have searched the forums and wiki but i couldn't find another way to install it.
[07:00] <Madpilot> GigaByte_, what does kompare do?
[07:00] <janinux2005> hello
[07:00] <hyphenated> Madpilot: it makes diffs looks awesome
[07:00] <GigaClon> diff viewer and so much more
[07:00] <rothga1> hello janinux
[07:00] <orbin> GigaClon: you do know you can use kde apps in gnome right?
[07:00] <GigaClon> yeah
[07:00] <Madpilot> hmm, no idea - I just use the CLI diff tools when I have to deal w/ diffs
[07:00] <GigaClon> I just wondered if there was GNOME ver
[07:01] <minerale> orbin: oh ok, I found out, if you are running zsh & are root it'll work, try it.. just type apt-get install ncur<TAB> and it will complete, press tab again it will show you options, just like for filename completion
[07:01] <GigaClon> it allows you to apply only certain diffs in a file
[07:01] <specialbuddy> has anyone else had a problem installing firefox
[07:01] <narg> find . -type f | xargs | chmod 660 <-- echo terminates with SIGPIPE from this, what is wrong with it?
[07:01] <tritium> specialbuddy: it's installed by default
[07:01] <hyphenated> Madpilot: it's kinda like the viewcvs (web frontend for cvs) diff viewing thing
[07:01] <specialbuddy> no
[07:01] <specialbuddy> the new version
[07:01] <hyphenated> but with buttons to apply each change
[07:01] <hyphenated> and much prettier :-)
[07:01] <orbin> GigaClon: what about xxdiff?
[07:01] <Madpilot> specialbuddy, you mean FF 1.5.x?
[07:02] <specialbuddy> yeah
[07:02] <Coir> Can someone tell me the difference in edubuntu-live and edubuntu-desktop packages?
[07:02] <Madpilot> !tell specialbuddy about ff1.5
[07:02] <orbin> minerale: sweet
[07:02] <tritium> minerale: nice job, by the way :)
[07:02] <minerale> orbin: I think there's a bash extension that allows for extended completion too, but I still like zsh better
[07:02] <specialbuddy> I went through that and it still doesn't seem to work
[07:02] <hyphenated> Coir: -live is probably the set of packages that are on the livecd. -desktop is the set installed by default for a desktop install
[07:03] <orbin> minerale: i've never used zsh.  any other advantages?
[07:03] <specialbuddy> I installed it and I sitll have version 1.08
[07:04] <Coir> Does anyone know the dif. in edubuntu-live and edubuntu-desktop? =P
[07:04] <minerale> orbin: yeah, in zsh you can have right size prompts (ie the current path) and it automatically 'hides' when you type something over it... you can have multi-line prompts, insane scripting abilities, it's man page is divided into thirteen sub-man pages...
[07:05] <minerale> right size -> right side
[07:05] <narg> why would you want a rightside prompt...?
[07:05] <minerale> narg: so you don't clutter your left side with long paths
[07:06] <narg> minerale: hrm. I like leftside myself, makes more sense to read. Each to his own.
[07:06] <liquidindian> If anyone's interested  I solved my problem :)
[07:06] <liquidindian> 
[07:07] <mustard5> orbin, well I found my thread on the same issue. :)  Hehehe..haven't found any others yet..still looking
[07:07] <orbin> liquidindian: how?
[07:07] <liquidindian> xkeycaps
[07:07] <liquidindian> My hyphen is now on F10
[07:08] <orbin> liquidindian: thaks for sharing
[07:08] <orbin> s/thaks/thanks
[07:08] <gopi> hello
[07:09] <gopi> can any one help me to learn linux
[07:09] <orbin> mustard5: let me try.  i'm sure i've heard the prob before
[07:09] <Madpilot> gopi, that's a very open-ended question...
[07:10] <orbin> gopi: anything specific?
[07:10] <mustard5> orbin, thanks I'm posting my workaround in a few threads that I have found, and still searching for more.
[07:10] <Deanodriver> hmm
[07:10] <welshbyte> gopi: find something you want to do on linux and then read documentation for it, then if you get stuck ask someone. lather, rinse, repeat.
[07:10] <Deanodriver> having trouble getting an SSH server running
[07:11] <tritium> Deanodriver: did you install it?
[07:11] <Deanodriver> i've installed openssh-server on the server
[07:11] <Deanodriver> but i ssh into it on this, and no luck
[07:11] <gopi> i am very sorry to say that, i have been working with linux for atleast 2 years and i am no where.
[07:12] <Deanodriver> wait
[07:12] <Deanodriver> i know what i need to do
[07:12] <Deanodriver> switch off dhcp
[07:12] <Deanodriver> how do i configure network from commandline?
[07:12] <Deanodriver> is it a dpkg-reconfigure thing?
[07:12] <Madpilot> !enter
[07:12] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:13] <Deanodriver> ok, sorry
[07:13] <jerrykb> cli network settings in /etc/network
[07:13] <Deanodriver> ok
[07:13] <Deanodriver> what file to i need to configure to assign an IP address to the computer?
[07:13] <Deanodriver> rather than DHCP/
[07:14] <jerrykb> /etc/network/interfaces
[07:14] <tritium> Deanodriver: "man interfaces" for some info
[07:14] <jerrykb> line should start with iface (name) inet static
[07:15] <Deanodriver> cool, thanks
[07:15] <Deanodriver> bbl, gotta plug the server in
[07:16] <cafuego> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfggh
[07:18] <orbin> mustard5: gee, i can't really find anything (i saw your post)
[07:19] <orbin> mustard5: have you tried "disabling the sound sever on startup" method?
[07:19] <specialbuddy> that firefox wiki sucks
[07:19] <mustard5> orbin, thanks for looking..I'm making progress (a bit)...I wanted to avoid that, as I only just recently got it all to work (the sound server and stuff)
[07:20] <specialbuddy> everytime I go to open firefox it keeps opening the old one
[07:20] <mustard5> orbin, I'm pretty certain its a sound card driver issue in combination with an IRQ allocation problem
[07:20] <mustard5> orbin, I can fix it with irqpoll as a kernel option from grub, but that is creating other problems atm
[07:20] <Madpilot> specialbuddy, wait until June 1st then, the next release of Ubuntu will have FF 1.5.x by default
[07:21] <mustard5> orbin, so I'm looking for a definitive solution that fixes all atm :)
[07:21] <orbin> crimsun: ping
[07:21] <specialbuddy> is there a big difference between the two
[07:22] <specialbuddy> I mean I have it installed right now and it works but I can't get the symbolic link to work
[07:22] <orbin> mustard5: get a hold of crimsun when he becomes active.  he's fixed a lot of sound issues for people in here
[07:22] <mustard5> orbin, I can't say for sure what combinations of settings I have used which give me the greatest success.  It's been a case of moving the sound card around in PCI slots and finding out which ones seem to work together
[07:22] <rothga1> can anyone help me install lame in 6.06?
[07:23] <GigaClon> !dapper
[07:23] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[07:23] <rothga1> cool, thanks
[07:23] <orbin> specialbuddy: what's not working w/ the link?
[07:23] <Madpilot> specialbuddy, no idea - I'm an Opera user myself, I can't stand FF :P
[07:23] <specialbuddy> is dapper going to be worth upgrading to
[07:23] <crimsun> orbin: pong
[07:23] <mustard5> orbin, yeah...I think I need to get a better handle on all the details of the problem first beforehand though.  I started getting lockups on my nvidia splashscreen at some stage
[07:23] <Madpilot> specialbuddy, absolutely
[07:23] <specialbuddy> it's just not linking
[07:24] <orbin> crimsun: hello, heard of the drumbeat sounds looping?
[07:24] <orbin> s/sounds/sound
[07:24] <specialbuddy> I tried to figure it out
[07:24] <crimsun> orbin: yes, it's a faq iirc
[07:24] <Fuelbottle> what is the apt sources for ubuntu unstable?
[07:24] <orbin> crimsun: mustard5's the one w/ the issue
[07:24] <specialbuddy> I don't the the firefox.ubuntu thing
[07:24] <mustard5> crimsun, yeah?  any idea where I can find it?
[07:24] <crimsun> orbin: I don't recall the precise details, but it's googleable and ubotuable
[07:24] <specialbuddy> but it is installed, I just have to go to that file to open it
[07:24] <mustard5> crimsun, ah ok
[07:25] <VR_> im trying to compile bmpx. i'm missing SMlib, does anyone know which package that could be?
[07:25] <mustard5> crimsun, I'll check it out...been looking at it for a while now, just haven't found the right source of information yet
[07:26] <crimsun> VR_: the build-dependencies for bmpx are listed on bmpx's Web page
[07:26] <orbin> crimsun: ubotuable?  any suggested keywords?  i can't find anything here: http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:26] <specialbuddy> so what's going to make dapper better?
[07:26] <crimsun> mustard5: iirc 'gdm', 'via', 'loop'
[07:26] <mustard5> crimsun, thanks
[07:29] <mustard5> orbin, yeah..nothing in ubotu atm...I'm doing google and forum searches atm :)
[07:30] <VR_> crimsun: i dont see smlib anywhere
[07:31] <crimsun> VR_: it's pulled in by libsm-dev, which is a dependency of libgtk2.0-dev
[07:31] <fogos> hi... someone could give me please a address for download servers for amule
[07:31] <VR_> thats not the same as libgsmme-dev, is it
[07:31] <crimsun> very different.
[07:32] <VR_> i dont have a libsm-dev in my repos
[07:32] <jerrykb> fogos:  deb http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu breezy/
[07:32] <Confidential> what is the "xfs" thing in the boot?
[07:33] <fogos> jerrykb>, i mean adress for server.met file
[07:33] <jerrykb> fogos:  http://ed2k.2x4u.de/index.html
[07:33] <liquidindian> Where is my login script located?
[07:34] <crimsun> VR_: you don't have main enabled?
[07:34] <VR_> or maybe i do have it...
[07:34] <fogos> jerrykb>, thanks
[07:34] <VR_> i did a search for smlib, and nothing came up. made a mistake.
[07:34] <VR_> but it's in there.
[07:34] <VR_> so lemme try again.
[07:35] <Deanodriver> thanks for that, it works fine now :)
[07:35] <Double_D> anyone: i'm trying to upgrade my firefox.  i followed the step-by-step instructions at the wiki site, but when i try to execute 'firefox' from the terminal or from the launcher icon, i receive an error that permission is denied.
[07:35] <Double_D> terminal error also states that the command is not found.
[07:36] <Double_D> i've tried uninstalling and reinstalling and i can't even get my 1.0.8 back.  can someone help me?
[07:36] <orbin> Double_D: upgrade from 1.5.0.1 or, install of 1.5?
[07:36] <jerrykb> Double_D,   ls -al /usr/bin/firefox  what's it say?
[07:36] <Double_D> install of 1.5
[07:36] <VR_> would it be dangerous to install gstreamer10 on breezy
[07:36] <Confidential> what is the "xfs" thing in the boot?
[07:37] <orbin> liquidindian: what are you gonna do?
[07:37] <Double_D> jerrykb: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 12 2006-04-27 00:15 /usr/bin/firefox -> /opt/firefox
[07:37] <jerrykb> /opt/firefox exists?
[07:37] <Double_D> jerrykb: that should be /opt/firefox/firefox, shouldn't it?
[07:37] <liquidindian> orbin, add the line xmodmap ~/.xmodmap'uname n' in somewhere
[07:37] <Double_D> yes.
[07:37] <Double_D> it's a directory.
[07:38] <jerrykb> Yes, should be /opt/firefox/firefox
[07:38] <intelikey> hehhe run the dir   :)
[07:38] <Double_D> ack, what's the command to change that?
[07:38] <intelikey> directories do need to be executable byw.
[07:38] <sphex> hi. ok, newb question: how to enable sshd?
[07:38] <jerrykb> sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
[07:39] <intelikey> you'll have to rm the old link to make a new one prolly
[07:39] <Madpilot> !tell sphex about ssh
[07:39] <jerrykb> or ;use -f
[07:39] <orbin> intelikey: yeah, i chmodded wrong once and was wondering why nautilus coudn't enter the dir.  i thought i lost all my data
[07:39] <sphex> alright. thanks, ubotu.
[07:39] <Double_D> so, sudo ln -s -f ...?
[07:39] <jerrykb> yes
[07:40] <Double_D> glenn@MetalBox:/opt/firefox$ sudo ln -s -f /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefoxln: `/opt/firefox/firefox' and `/usr/bin/firefox/firefox' are the same file
[07:40] <intelikey> orbin hehhe yeah.    i have most dirs on this box set  001   that's  --------x  perms  :)
[07:40] <jerrykb> o.O
[07:40] <jerrykb> maybe i got the order backwards?
[07:41] <doms> how do i know my local host
[07:41] <Double_D> okay, took it that time.  now there were two links i was supposed to do that to.
[07:41] <sphex> BTW, is there a big difference between `apt-get install` and `aptitude install`?
[07:41] <Double_D> unfortunately, i can no longer see the wiki page :P, do you know what that other link was?
[07:41] <theCore> what is the proper way to install source packages from upstream CVS repository?
[07:41] <jerrykb> erm...
[07:42] <Double_D> i think it was a mozilla-firefox to the same /opt/firefox/firefox....
[07:42] <jerrykb> oh.. uh
[07:42] <jerrykb> hang on
[07:42] <orbin> sphex: different apt tools.  matter of preference
[07:42] <doms> something the place of va/www/ how do open it
[07:42] <Confidential> !tell me about rpm
[07:42] <doms> 172.0.0.1
[07:42] <intelikey> hut- OH!  i have a hanged gui on box number 1     eeek
[07:43] <intelikey> 172 ?    errr 127 maybe
[07:43] <doms> localhost
[07:43] <slavik> :D
[07:44] <jerrykb> Double_D:  cd /opt/firefox/plugins/ ; sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* .   ;  sudo rm libtotem_mozilla.*
[07:44] <doms> sori 127
[07:44] <jerrykb> that one?
[07:44] <intelikey> looks like  X is not taking input from kbd   and nothing running but X  so mouse is useless....
[07:45] <Jeffnet> hias, how do i run root commands from the console? specifically how do i edit resolv.conf ?
[07:45] <sphex> orbin: okay
[07:45] <Double_D> alright.
[07:45] <Jeffnet> and how do i turn off DHCP and set my own static ip?
[07:45] <SaLoMoN> sudo
[07:45] <SaLoMoN> or sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[07:45] <jerrykb> Jeffnet,   sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf, sudo /etc/network/interfaces
[07:45] <Jeffnet> SaLoMoN yes i know that much
[07:45] <Jeffnet> oh, ok so no need for cmd line switches to sudo...
[07:45] <Jeffnet> and the pass is just my user pass yes?
[07:46] <jerrykb> yep
[07:46] <SaLoMoN> mhh
[07:46] <SaLoMoN> i have dhcp :|
[07:46] <intelikey> ouch.   had to   [alt] +[sysctl]  B   the thing.
[07:46] <Double_D> okay, did that, i still get command not found.
[07:47] <jerrykb> o.O
[07:47] <RancidLM> /Ot: does any one here use PGP for emails?
[07:47] <jerrykb> Double_D,   cd /opt/firefox and do:  ./firefox
[07:47] <jerrykb> anything come up?
[07:48] <Double_D> no such fire or directory.
[07:48] <RancidLM> im wanting to back up my ubuntu but wanna back up my pgp for signing emails .. is their a spcific dir to back up?
[07:48] <theCore> how could I install a CVS version of gstreamer?
[07:49] <Double_D> is there any way i just uninstall the whole damn thing and just install 1.0.8 from synaptic?  i've tried just installing, but i getting 'permission denied' returned.
[07:49] <sphex> hey. how to "reload" /etc/network/interfaces after a change?
[07:49] <Jeffnet> k, so i set up resolv.conf correctly
[07:49] <jerrykb> Double_D,  sudo synaptic and mark firefox for re-install should do it.
[07:49] <intelikey> i'v got to get the three fingure solute working on that box.  this forced reset  it got to be hard on the fs.
[07:49] <Jeffnet> afaik, but hostnames still don't resolv
[07:49] <SaLoMoN> sudo?
[07:49] <Jeffnet> i got setup with DHCP but DHCP set me up wrong... my router gave me itself as the name server
[07:50] <SaLoMoN> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:50] <Jeffnet> ahh k
[07:50] <sphex> SaLoMoN: thanks
[07:50] <SaLoMoN> the router should give you itself as nameservers
[07:50] <sleepy_> hello
[07:50] <intelikey> anyone ever have a box that ctrl+alt+del  didn't work  and it was set in the inittab ?
[07:50] <Double_D> okay, now it says no such file or directory after i did that.
[07:50] <jerrykb> router should by your DNS.
[07:50] <SaLoMoN> it routes from antoher nameserver
[07:50] <sleepy_> does anyone know how to run ubuntu without opening x-windows
[07:51] <sleepy_> ?
[07:51] <SaLoMoN> but if it doenswt work u can try with other nameservers...
[07:51] <mzuverink> how do I map gcc to version 3.4.5, currently it is 4.0?
[07:51] <crimsun> mzuverink: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[07:51] <doms> is their something equavalent flash for linux
[07:51] <sphex> SaLoMoN: uh oh. I get a red "fail". anyway to get more verbosity?
[07:51] <Jeffnet> grrr, where is the main config file?
[07:51] <crimsun> mzuverink: then export CC=gcc-3.4
[07:51] <intelikey> sleepy start single
[07:51] <Jeffnet> is there one? like rc.conf?
[07:51] <jerrykb> sleepy:  change /etc/inittab to default to runlevel 3 instead of 5
[07:51] <doms> i use nvu
[07:51] <sleepy_> start single?
[07:51] <erpo> What do I need to compile into me kernel to get graphical init to work? I compiled my own kernel, but now init boots in text mode without the ubuntu logo and progress bar.
[07:51] <sleepy_> ok
[07:51] <Jeffnet> where do i go to change my network settings to not use DHCP
[07:51] <sleepy_> thanks
[07:51] <SaLoMoN> lol sphex
[07:51] <jerrykb> Jeffnet /etc/network/interfaces
[07:51] <crimsun> jerrykb: (Ubuntu has 2-5 being identical by default)
[07:51] <SaLoMoN> try to stop and start it by hand
[07:51] <tritium> Jeffnet: we told you.../etc/network/interfaces
[07:52] <intelikey> sleepy_ yes  at the boot prompt  [esc]    and edit the boot line   add   1
[07:52] <Double_D> jerrykb: i marked it for reinstallation, and now i receive an error that the file doesn't exist.
[07:52] <SaLoMoN> cYa
[07:52] <tritium> Jeffnet: you may want to "man interfaces"
[07:52] <jerrykb> crimson: oh?  erm...
[07:52] <sphex> SaLoMoN: guess I just read interfaces(5) better too
[07:52] <Jeffnet> sorry, didn't see it, it scrolled by while i was working with resolv.conf
[07:52] <crimsun> jerrykb: yes, it's inherited from Debian
[07:53] <doms> is their something like flash for linux or equavalent
[07:53] <jerrykb> remove x, gdm from rc.d?
[07:53] <jerrykb> would that do it?
[07:53] <tritium> doms: flashplugin, yes
[07:53] <jerrykb> er rc5.d even?
[07:54] <Double_D> is there a way to do a system restore with ubuntu?
[07:54] <doms> no what i want is to install something like flash software
[07:54] <intelikey> ah looks like maybe the little app  fix_bs_and_del   may be able to fix the hotkey reboot....
[07:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doms: There is flash for linux, made by the same people who made flash for windows.
[07:54] <doms> so i can use for nvu
[07:54] <sleepy_> thank you very much
[07:54] <doms> what was the site pls.
[07:54] <Jeffnet> what's up with "hotpluggable" interfaces?
[07:54] <suyog> wheredoes w32codecs install itself?
[07:54] <Jeffnet> i don't have a laptop or wifi
[07:54] <Jeffnet> do i need that or can i comment it out?
[07:55] <orbin> suyog: dpkg -L <package>
[07:55] <tritium> jerrykb: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[07:55] <jerrykb> tritium, thx
[07:55] <suyog> orbin: thank you!
[07:56] <mzuverink> crimsun: it reports that the export CC=gcc-3.4 does not exist
[07:56] <doms> what was the site pls. of flash for linux
[07:56] <crimsun> mzuverink: did you ``sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4''?
[07:56] <intelikey> !flash
[07:56] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:56] <mzuverink> crimus: yes
[07:56] <mzuverink> crimsun:yes
[07:57] <crimsun> mzuverink: and then you typed ``export CC=gcc-3.4''?
[07:57] <mzuverink> crimsun:yes
[07:57] <crimsun> mzuverink: pastebin the output from ``gcc-3.4 -v''
[07:58] <mzuverink> crimsun: I sudo'd it, that was my mistake, it is working now, thank you
[07:58] <crimsun> mzuverink: np
[07:59] <intelikey> ah ha.  the delete key is not working correctly in console mode..... now how to fix it ???
[07:59] <mustard5> crimsun, about the only solution I have found so far are some kernel options to try pci=noacpi  acpi=off noapic nolapic :)
[08:00] <mustard5> crimsun, does that sound right?
[08:00] <mustard5> crimsun, well not all of them...just some of them
[08:00] <crimsun> mustard5: sorry, missing context. For what problem?
[08:00] <mustard5> crimsun, drumbeat infinite loop
[08:00] <mustard5> crimsun, at gdm login on VIA motherboard
[08:00] <crimsun> mustard5: yes, that's are possible workarounds. How does each fare?
[08:01] <mustard5> I'm just about to try them...I'm using irqpoll atm, but its created other issues
[08:01] <crimsun> s/that's/those/
[08:01] <mustard5> crimsun, so I'm going to try these ones and see if they are a better workaround
[08:01] <crimsun> ok.
[08:02] <intelikey> it seems that  [del]   does [bs]  in sted    anyone know what to do on a 104key  to fix this ?
[08:03] <Jeffnet> hmmm, /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't seem to be honoring /etc/network/interfaces
[08:03] <Jeffnet> as in my eth0 doesn't come up on network restart
[08:04] <Jeffnet> right now i just have two lines
[08:04] <Jeffnet> iface eth0 inet static
[08:04] <Jeffnet> address 192.168.1.10
[08:04] <crimsun> grep ^'auto eth0' /etc/network/interfaces
[08:04] <crimsun> well if it's just two lines, of course it won't up on boot.
[08:04] <crimsun> you're missing the requisite "auto eth0"
[08:05] <Jeffnet> k i just put it in there
[08:05] <Jeffnet> still doesn't work
[08:05] <Jeffnet> just restarted
[08:05] <crimsun> it'll up, but it'll probably be useless until you provide a netmask and gateway
[08:05] <Jeffnet> mmm, ifconfig reports that only lo is up
[08:05] <Jeffnet> even after adding auto eth0
[08:06] <crimsun> does eth0 appear at all?
[08:06] <Jeffnet> eth0 was up as DHCP before
[08:06] <Jeffnet> but i was told to use /etc/init.d/networking restart to affect the changes in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:06] <kaizoku> hello
[08:06] <Jeffnet> crimson, and no, now eth0 does not appear at all
[08:06] <slavik> Jeffnet: do 'ifconfig' in terminal
[08:07] <Jeffnet> slavik, did... only loopback comes up
[08:07] <kaizoku> how can I boot into just a terminal, without xwindows?
[08:07] <crimsun> Jeffnet: then the driver for that network card isn't loaded
[08:07] <Jeffnet> kaizoku, runlevel 3
[08:07] <slavik> ooh, not good
[08:07] <ic56> intelikey: when you say "[del]  does [bs] ", presumably you mean the [DEL]  key is outputing a control-H character?
[08:07] <Jeffnet> crimson, mmmm it came up on boot as DHCP though
[08:07] <slavik> crimsun: I got kismet to run :D
[08:07] <Jeffnet> i probed it before with ifconfig
[08:07] <Jeffnet> and it was up
[08:07] <kaizoku> hwo do I use runlevel 3?
[08:07] <Jeffnet> but after restarting the network after changes to /etc/network/interfaces
[08:08] <Jeffnet> it doesn't come up
[08:08] <Jeffnet> and i only have those two lines
[08:08] <crimsun> kaizoku: the same way you use runlevels 2, 4, and 5
[08:08] <kaizoku> *how
[08:08] <intelikey> kaizoku boot into single     runlevel 1    ?      or permanant fix ?
[08:08] <minerale> I have mounted another partition on the same hard drive (ntfs), it mounts fine, but when I try to read it's contents it hangs (I can hear the drive spinning) ... I can boot windows from that partition just fine... idea anyone?
[08:08] <kaizoku> I don't know how to use those?
[08:08] <kaizoku> single
[08:08] <Jeffnet> it *should* at least come up no? whether it is of any use is another story
[08:08] <kaizoku> I just need to install something that requires x windows servers to be close
[08:08] <kaizoku> *closed
[08:08] <crimsun> Jeffnet: pastebin your dmesg
[08:08] <orbin> minerale: pastebin /etc/fstab
[08:09] <intelikey> ic56 i don't know what a "control-H character" is  i mean if i type some text and start hitting the [del]  key it starts backspacing and removing the text.
[08:09] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  has any one here had any problems with not getting a NIC to come up on Breazy?
[08:09] <slavik> control-H is the backspace in some terminals ...
[08:09] <slavik> or with some settings
[08:09] <Jeffnet> crimson, hahah, right... i would... if my network on that machine were up
[08:09] <s|k> what are the gtk devel packages I need for mplayer?
[08:09] <s|k> !mplayer
[08:09] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:09] <Jeffnet> i'm not gonna type my whole dmesg sorry
[08:10] <crimsun> s|k: sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer
[08:10] <intelikey> kaizoku at the boot prompt   [esc]    and  edit the  kernel line  adding  1   then boot.
[08:10] <s|k> crimsun: doesn't work
[08:10] <slavik> Jeffnet: pastebin it
[08:10] <Jeffnet> slavik, perhaps you didn't understand what i just said?
[08:10] <kaizoku> ok, thank you very much
[08:10] <Jeffnet> anyway, eth0 came up on boot already!!!
[08:10] <minerale> orbin: http://pastebin.com/684412  --it's hda1
[08:10] <crimsun> s|k: enable deb-src for main restricted universe multiverse
[08:10] <Jeffnet> it's just after i reconfigged /etc/network/interfaces
[08:11] <intelikey> kaizoku it's not required to reboot.
[08:11] <Jeffnet> why would that be?
[08:11] <crimsun> intelikey: what does stty -a tell you about erase?
[08:11] <Jeeves_Moss> Jeffnet:  I'd like to know what you did.  I can't even get my card to come up after a fresh install.
[08:11] <ic56> intelikey: ok. That's reasonable behaviour for Linux.  My logs show you were investigating a ctl-alt-del not working problem?  So you don't actually mind the behaviour of the del key itself.  Right?
[08:11] <intelikey> kaizoku you could just issue  sudo init 1  and get to the same place.
[08:11] <Jeffnet> Jeeves_Moss, uhhh, i didn't do anything "special"
[08:11] <Jeffnet> Jeeves_Moss, i just installed ubuntu...
[08:12] <Jeeves_Moss> Jeffnet:  I rember one of my other boxes doing this.  I can ifconfig eth0 up and it will come up, but won't pull a DHCP, and if I static it, the card won't talk to the network
[08:12] <intelikey> ic56 actually yes i do mind it.... but had just traced the problem of the  ctl-alt-del  to that point.
[08:12] <Jeffnet> yeh
[08:12] <Jeffnet> my forcedeth driver is loaded as a module
[08:13] <Jeffnet> sudo lsmod
[08:13] <orbin> minerale: where'd you get that options set from? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:13] <Jeffnet> | grep forcedeth
[08:13] <Jeffnet> yeilds the driver
[08:13] <Jeeves_Moss> Jeffnet:  so, any ideas on this one?  Its kinda annoying. I'd like to get the card up so I can start to install the SMTP server.
[08:13] <Jeffnet> and that is the driver for my card...
[08:13] <intelikey> crimsun what exactly am i looking for there in   stty -a  ?
[08:13] <orbin> minerale: go to that page and use the relevant options set in the table under "editing fstab manualy"
[08:13] <Jeffnet> Jeeves_Moss, what card?
[08:13] <Jeeves_Moss> Jeffnet:  eth0
[08:13] <Jeffnet> Jeeves_Moss, you may need to load the appropriate module... but i'm having a tough time with mine even when my module is loaded
[08:13] <crimsun> intelikey: whether erase = ^?; appears
[08:13] <Jeffnet> Jeeves_Moss, no no... what's your actual card
[08:14] <Jeffnet> Jeeves_Moss, make model chipset
[08:14] <ic56> intelikey: I don't recall how to fix ctl-alt-del but I am expert in command line control issues.  What behaviour do you want from your [DEL]  key?
[08:14] <ervine> hello
[08:14] <ervine> hi
[08:14] <crimsun> intelikey: if not, is it set to ^H  ?
[08:14] <Jeeves_Moss> Jeffnet:  I pulled this card from a knowen working box.  Thats what pisses me off.  I'll have to pull the card to look @ it again.
[08:14] <intelikey> crimsun there seems to be no mention of  del   but erase = ^?   is there.
[08:14] <jazzmister> hello
[08:15] <Jeeves_Moss> Jeffnet:  I find it strange that I can force the card up (the show up on ifconfig), but I can't get it to talk to the oustide world.
[08:15] <intelikey> ic56  i want [del]   to  delete  like it is supposed to  :)
[08:16] <crimsun> intelikey: try: stty erase '^H'
[08:16] <orbin> intelikey: is this straight console? or gnome-terminal?
[08:16] <ic56> intelikey: meaning you want it to delete characters to the right of the cursor rather than to backspace over characters to teh left of the cursor?
[08:16] <minerale> orbin: I did not set that up, the default install for ubuntu did it, i'm not quite sure where/how that mount is called
[08:17] <s|k> crimsun: I have dapper, I can't seem to get the multiverse or universe repositories to stay checked
[08:17] <intelikey> orbin console
[08:17] <crimsun> s|k: and if you manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list using $EDITOR ?
[08:17] <noiesmo> s|k, you need to apply at bottom of adept display repos page
[08:17] <fxc065> hi is there a pre installed program for the kid to organize schedule? ive gone to #edubuntu but i think everybody's in sleepy mode
[08:18] <intelikey> ic56 actually the char above the cursor   pulling the ones to the right back to it.   not the  char to the left of the cursor  and backing the cursor up         but  yes  i think we are saying the same thing ...
[08:18] <orbin> gee, kids need to schedule these days? :-/
[08:19] <intelikey> crimsun  setting    stty erase '^H'      youch...  not that.
[08:19] <orbin> minerale: ok, try the wiki options instead: ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[08:19] <crimsun> intelikey: ok, so you've got another keymapping issue altogether, it seems
[08:19] <crimsun> intelikey: reverting it to ^? should ... well, revert it to the 'less broken' one
[08:20] <eric> hi all. Is this a good place to ask noob questions ?
[08:20] <crimsun> !ask
[08:20] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[08:20] <orbin> eric: sure
[08:20] <intelikey> crimsun yeah it did but it borked the  bs key now  lol
[08:21] <eric> ok .. thanks
[08:22] <intelikey> bassicly   my del key is doing what bs should do.  and  bs is hosed  it prints  ^H  when pressed
[08:22] <jenda> Good morning... my metacity hangs on start up - is there a way to diagnose that? Say a detailed log that would tell me what it's doing?
[08:22] <Jeffnet> does anyone have any familiarity with the forcedeth drivers?
[08:22] <Jeffnet> there's not much to go on with google
[08:23] <wy> Anyone has ideas about an opensource chat server?
[08:23] <eric> trying to play  an encryped dvd commerical movie in vlc using breezy. VLC was downloaded using synaptic, I know deCSS is active, and so is DMA. The movie comes up stuttering, with more noise than picture.
[08:23] <ic56> intelikey: ok, so we understand each other.  And here's the answer: what you want is not available in a traditional unix teletype, which is what Linux console mode emulates.  However, the GNU line library, may be capable of overriding that.
[08:24] <Jeffnet> wy, yes lots of people have lots of ideas about open source chat servers
[08:24] <intelikey> ic56 what i want works in hoary just fine.  and all other linux's  but this dapper upgrade is the only place it doesn't work
[08:24] <Jeffnet> wy, what idea would you like?
[08:24] <wy> Jeffnet:  I'd like something like icq or MSN. But the server source code must be open source
[08:25] <ic56> intelikey: I see however that your stty settings are incorrect, given your keyboard map.  Type "stty erase '^h'", like crimsun advised you.  This will fix your [Backspace]  key.  Once that is remapped, [DEL]  might just work too.  Or it might not.  Let me know.
[08:25] <orbin> eric: does it work in totem?
[08:26] <eric> orbin, totem semi-freezes
[08:26] <intelikey> ic56 yes.  that fixed the bs key.  now what is the code for  standard  del
[08:27] <orbin> eric: install totem-xine, then try it again
[08:27] <r0xoR> yay, internet works now
[08:27] <r0xoR> schweet
[08:27] <minerale> orbin: I changed fstab, mounted hda1 -t ntfs /media/win ... but when I ls I get a huge list of files such as "ZZZQ42D0.RUD'
[08:27] <eric> ok. Any thoughts why vlc is unhappy ?
[08:28] <intelikey> on this box erase is set to ^?   and it works correctly.      why doesn't that work on the other box ?
[08:29] <ic56> intelikey: there are multiple software layers involved here.  At the tty device driver level, the thing you call a delete function doesn't exit.  Only backspace exists and it's called "erase".  Above that layer, sits the readline library (optionally -- bash uses it older shells don't have anything like that.  The question is, what is the behaviour of your [DEL]  key now?
[08:29] <daaku> wy: jabber?
[08:30] <r0xoR> is mozilla thunderbird an available package on ubuntu?
[08:30] <orbin> minerale: so you remounted the partition?
[08:30] <wy> daaku:  It's OK. I think. Where can I find a good server
[08:30] <intelikey> it prints  ^?  on the screen ic56
[08:30] <daaku> wy: maybe http://www.jabber.org/software/servers.shtml will help?
[08:30] <orbin> r0xoR: yes
[08:30] <minerale> orbin: yep, did so manually... i'll try the automagical script to see if it works
[08:31] <intelikey> [del] [del] [del] [del]  = ^?^?^?^?
[08:31] <r0xoR> orbin, ok how do i install it
[08:31] <r0xoR> i don't see it in synaptic
[08:31] <r0xoR> and sudo apt-get install thunderbird doesn't work
[08:31] <orbin> r0xoR: it's called mozilla-thunderbird
[08:31] <r0xoR> tried that too
[08:31] <orbin> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[08:31] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: (Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client), section mail, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10124 kB, Installed size: 30572 kB
[08:31] <r0xoR> ... so what command do i use to install it
[08:32] <orbin> it's in main.  are your repos sources ok?
[08:32] <wy> daaku: Thank you very much!
[08:32] <daaku> intelikey: i had that problem on some machine too, i fixed that instance by adding 'set input-meta on' in ~/.inputrc (it was a while ago, but i'm pretty sure it was that line)
[08:32] <daaku> wy: np
[08:32] <r0xoR> orbin, i haven't set up any repos yet... i was wondering if there were outside repos you guys use?
[08:32] <r0xoR> or if there's basically just the default ubuntu repo
[08:32] <r0xoR> (i'm coming from fedora lately)
[08:32] <orbin> ubotu: tell r0xoR about components
[08:33] <orbin> ubotu: tell r0xoR about repos
[08:33] <orbin> r0xoR: check the pms from ubotu ... and welcome aboard
[08:34] <intelikey> daaku that didn't seem to change a thing.
[08:34] <ic56> intelikey: the reason your two boxes behave differently is that the keyboard map (which is the layer below the tty device driver) has been set to be different.  Keyboard maps I'm not familiar with, so I can't help you with making your two boxes same.  However, your immediate problem is to configure readline to recognize character 127 (which is what ^? is) and map it to a right delete function.  The command daaku recommends
[08:34] <ic56> intelikey: ... but the config file is the right one. Try it.
[08:34] <ic56> intelikey: Checking the bash manpage now for you.
[08:35] <ic56> intelikey: ok the function you want is called forward-backward-delete-char hang on...
[08:35] <r0xoR> orbin, , yup that looks like it did it
[08:35] <intelikey> ok
[08:36] <eric> orbin, xine-totem works ! Very cool -- ty !
[08:36] <r0xoR> oh wow, did that ever do it :)
[08:36] <orbin> eric: yw.  weird though.  i thought vlc was the supposed play-anything player
[08:36] <orbin> r0xoR: sweet
[08:36] <r0xoR> ok now i have an icon in my upper right taskbar saying "New updates available"
[08:37] <r0xoR> should i trust that?
[08:37] <r0xoR> lol... that thing is dangerous on fedora :P
[08:37] <intelikey> ic56 echo 'forward-backward-delete-char on' > .inputrc    ?
[08:37] <orbin> r0xoR: well, you updated your repositories, so it found updates for installed packages
[08:37] <orbin> r0xoR: yeah, it's pretty safe
[08:38] <r0xoR> k, i think i'll do that last... before i go to sleep
[08:38] <r0xoR> which will be soon actually
[08:38] <orbin> r0xoR: apt is a lot better than rpm from what i've heard
[08:38] <daaku> intelikey: actually, you need to reproduce the exact control char in .inputrc, i can tell you how to do that with vim
[08:38] <ic56> intelikey: try adding this to your ~/.inputrc : set forward-backward-delete-char d
[08:38] <intelikey> k  testing
[08:38] <daaku> ic56: cool. didnt know about that
[08:38] <ic56> intelikey: oops there should be a backslash before teh trailing d.
[08:39] <YouCeyE> hi.. how can i configure headset with microphone in linux?
[08:39] <intelikey> no change ic56
[08:39] <YouCeyE> it shows in kmix but not able to see if it works
[08:39] <intelikey> oh  ok
[08:39] <eric> orbin, vlc still showing noise. Oh well
[08:39] <intelikey> still no change
[08:40] <ic56> daaku, intelikey: there's a lot more of this cool stuff in the bash manpage.  Look for it under the "READLINE" heading (the manpage is huge, so use your pager's search function to get to the spot).
[08:40] <YouCeyE> i am using a usb headset
[08:41] <ic56> intelikey: hmmm.  I haven't actually tried this myself :-).  Let me try it.
[08:41] <daaku> ic56: yup, been going through that and finding new things for the last few years!
[08:41] <intelikey> eeeek yes there is a change....  the function keys dont work there anymore.
[08:41] <orbin> YouCeyE: searched the forum yet?
[08:41] <YouCeyE> nope..
[08:41] <orbin> ubuntuforums.org
[08:41] <daaku> intelikey: you could try the hardcoded(?) way
[08:42] <intelikey> lets try another way.   what package sets up the key mapping ?
[08:42] <intelikey> i'll dpkg-reconfigure that dude and see what happens
[08:42] <intelikey> ?
[08:43] <eric> Problem with wireless: D-link 510 not recognized by breezy. The auto-detect was not working, so I skipped that part of the install, figuring I could set it up afterwards. I can see a 'Marvell 802.11 device in the device manager, but when I open the System:networking config program, the device does not show up; and oddly, I do not have an 'add' option
[08:44] <intelikey> basicly i have two backspace keys  the [b-s]  and the [del]   they do the same thing.     that is not normal linux behaviour
[08:45] <pierre-> !mp3
[08:45] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:45] <orbin> eric: apparently it should work ootb, but...
[08:45] <orbin> ubotu: tell eric about wireless
[08:47] <fxc065> orbin yes why not, im trying to make my kid learn c, and shell scripting soon. why the hell not prep up her schedule
[08:47] <volstersfar> How to update ubuntu breezy badger to ubuntu breezy badger 64 bit?
[08:48] <daaku> intelikey: vim ~/.inputrc, then go to the end of the file, add a new line: "[Hit Ctrl-V, then backspace] " : forward-backward-delete-char --- and then :wq, and open a new shell
[08:48] <orbin> fxc065: no offense intended.
[08:48] <hyphenated> volstersfar: I'm not sure if that's such a good idea, compared to installing the 64-bit version
[08:48] <signature16> in cups for the servername can i just put 127.0.0.1?
[08:48] <fxc065> orbin oh likewise! i was just saying :P
[08:49] <fxc065> signature16 thats what i placed haha
[08:49] <volstersfar> ok, is there a hard way to do?
[08:49] <signature16> fx065: and it works fine?
[08:49] <fxc065> signature16 ya for the mean time
[08:49] <fxc065> are you installing it first-hand?
[08:49] <ic56> intelikey: ok, This syntax worked: "DEL: forward-backward-delete-char"  (w/out the 2ble quotes)
[08:49] <volstersfar> I got dual xeon and have already installed 32-bit
[08:49] <orbin> fxc065: so was i :P  my chuikdhood consisted of playing restuarant w/ leaves as hamburgers.  just amazed at how dast kids are learning stuff i've only started a few years ago.
[08:50] <orbin> sp/chuikdhoodchildhood
[08:50] <orbin> s/dast/fsat
[08:50] <orbin> meh, obviously i should have paid more attention to english :P
[08:50] <hyphenated> orbin: those sed expressions really clarify things ;-)
[08:50] <fxc065> i wish i started like when i was 12ish
[08:50] <orbin> hyphenated: lol
[08:50] <fxc065> :((
[08:50] <fxc065> i feel too old
[08:51] <intelikey> testing
[08:51] <hyphenated> failed
[08:51] <ic56> intelikey: daaku's syntax might work too, though it's dependent on the top layer of the keyboard map.
[08:51] <doms> what exactly the package name of mysql should i install
[08:51] <fxc065> drapper drakeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee cant waaaaaaaait
[08:52] <hyphenated> doms: probably mysql-server
[08:52] <ic56> intelikey: don't forget to test by spawning a new bash.
[08:52] <hyphenated> fxc065: keep talking like that and we will think you _are_ 12ish ;-)
[08:52] <doms> mysql-server , php and
[08:52] <hyphenated> !lamp
[08:52] <intelikey> yeah don't want to test it with a reboot   hehhe :)
[08:52] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:53] <fxc065> im only 22 so its still forgive-able if theres such a word
[08:53] <fxc065> :PppppppppppPppppp
[08:53] <fxc065> boo mySQL
[08:53] <fxc065> yay Pgsql
[08:54] <hyphenated> mysql has fast selects, and basic database features. quite often, that's all people want and need
[08:54] <fxc065> yeah it's fast thats one edge over pg
[08:55] <doms> what version of mysql-server is it 4 or 5
[08:55] <hyphenated> if you don't need complex column types, or triggers or real foreign keys, then you probably shouldn't use postgres
[08:55] <daaku> doms: apt-cache search mysql-server
[08:55] <hyphenated> doms: apt-cache show foo will give you plenty of info
[08:55] <daaku> and when installing try: apt-get -V install mysql-server
[08:55] <ic56> intelikey: oops, I just realised it isn't working right for me -- it slightly modified the behavioiur of my backspace key.  Then again, I'm logged in remotely so I'm not dealing with local console.
[08:55] <doms> i hav a 4 version and 5 version in my synaptic whats the best to install
[08:56] <hyphenated> doms: it shouldn't matter that much. read the lamp thing that ubotu was telling you, and you'll get a nice working system set up
[08:56] <intelikey> ic56 nope your code didn't change a thing.   and daaku i didn't test yours because that box is off line and vi isn't installed.
[08:58] <doms> i'am pretty newbie in Apache, PHP, MySQL, i'am a second year high school student this is our project hope somebody can help me
[08:58] <doms> to clarify it well
[08:58] <intelikey> !lamp
[08:58] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:58] <hyperstream> doms, google is your friend.
[08:58] <hyperstream> also. man :)
[08:58] <ic56> intelikey: you don't need vi to test daaku's solution.  Do this:  cat >> ~/.inputrc  and then type daaku's text (without the ^v).  End with a newline and then ^D.  If you open the file in an editor, then you should be able to verify that the right characters got entered into the file.
[08:59] <biberao> hey which pdf reader is on ubuntu by default?
[08:59] <daaku> biberao: evince
[08:59] <biberao> how to start it on console?
[09:00] <daaku> type evince?
[09:00] <orbin> biberao: type evince :)
[09:00] <intelikey> ok i cat > .inputrc       and then what ?
[09:00] <doms> i hav php5 in my synaptic thats the file should i install
[09:00] <biberao> ok thanks
[09:00] <hyphenated> intelikey: nono, cat >> .inputrc
[09:00] <ic56> intelikey: dude! You only used one right angle?  You just overwrote teh file!
[09:00] <hyphenated> or just load it in an editor
[09:01] <intelikey> "[Hit Ctrl-V, then backspace] " : forward-backward-delete-char   ????
[09:01] <intelikey> ic56 there was no file.
[09:01] <intelikey> can't over write what isn't there.
[09:01] <ic56> intelikey: How could you have tested my solution without creating a file?
[09:02] <intelikey> i didn't test without creating.....   i rm'd the file that didn't help.
[09:02] <intelikey> sop new file doesn't fix it gets rm'd ....
[09:03] <biberao> ok thx
[09:03] <biberao> byebye
[09:03] <ic56> intelikey: so, for daaku's solution, you press ctl-H then colon (:), then a space, then type forward-delete.... After pressing [ENTER] , press ctl-D.
[09:03] <daaku> doms: mysql5, php5, apache2 are all well working versions, and good for development (and deployment depending on how conservative you are) - but your best bet is to install versions that will closely match your production machine
[09:04] <doms> wow
[09:04] <doms> good
[09:04] <intelikey> ok testing
[09:04] <ic56> intelikey: in other words, daaku's solution uses a literal ctl-H character instead of my symbolic "DEL" notation.
[09:04] <pierre-> !wine
[09:05] <intelikey> is it forward-delete ?
[09:05] <idefix> how long is the webcam command supposed to take?
[09:05] <doms> i hav a school project , thats why how i pressure to study mysql,php,apache
[09:05] <intelikey> not forward-backward-delete like the others ?
[09:05] <ic56> intelikey: forward-backward-delete-char
[09:05] <intelikey> k
[09:05] <doms> daaku from were are you
[09:06] <intelikey> hehhe that does nothing either.
[09:06] <idefix> anyone familia with the webcam(-image upload to website)-command?
[09:06] <intelikey> the del key is still a backspace key
[09:06] <daaku> intelikey: how are you testing if it works or not?
[09:06] <intelikey> by logging in another tty
[09:07] <daaku> doms: i'm from india
[09:08] <doms> do you some sample of Php, apache, mysql
[09:08] <idefix> what's wrong if the webcam command takes forever?
[09:08] <doms> like relational database
[09:08] <MistaED> hey does anyone know a lot about ipods? like i just bought one for use with amarok but do i need to use itunes to do the initial setup of it?
[09:09] <ic56> daaku brings up a point:  To test, I typed some characters, then moved into the middle of the string with a few ctl-B keystrokes, then pressed the [DEL]  key.  Until we get it *just* right, [DEL]  might behave identically to [Backspace]  when it's at the end of a line.
[09:09] <Tater> hey all, how do I go about installing mp3 and xvid codecs in ubuntu?
[09:09] <doms> xmms-mad
[09:09] <Madpilot> !tell Tater about mp3
[09:09] <doms> for mp3 format
[09:10] <Tater> thanks Madpilot
[09:10] <intelikey> ic56 that would be a good point but that is the way i've been testing it all along the middle of a string.
[09:10] <daaku> doms: if you are really interested in web development, i would suggest delicious & blogs as a good way to learn and keep up
[09:11] <ic56> intelikey: so it still doesn't work.  Mmmm.  Anyone else wanna weigh-in on this?
[09:11] <doms> what was that
[09:11] <doms> what do you mean by delicious and blogs
[09:12] <Madpilot> Tater, np
[09:13] <ic56> intelikey: Wow! Wait a minute! your [DEL]  key is generating ^? (ASCII 127) -- not ^H (ASCII 8).  You need to test daaku's solution again.  This time, instead of pressing ctl-H, press your [DEL]  key (which will output a ^? character).
[09:13] <daaku> doms: google is your friend :)
[09:13] <intelikey> ic56 i even thought it might be a bad keyboard,  so i powered off and replaced it.   same thing.  del=backspace  any  place
[09:14] <intelikey> ic56 ok the  cat > .inputrc   thingy ?
[09:14] <yourwelcome> how can i bind 2 adsl line with dial in if the Ubuntu support? Any chinese here??
[09:14] <ic56> intelikey: "press your [DEL]  key" --> I meant when creating the .inputrc config.
[09:14] <yourwelcome> any chinese here???
[09:14] <intelikey> yeah i'm there
[09:15] <intelikey> add the :  or not ?
[09:15] <hyperstream> anyone here use LMMS?
[09:15] <ic56> intelikey: there is nothing wrong with the keyboard. Its behaviour is perfectly normal.  The problem is in sw.
[09:15] <ic56> intelikey: Yes on the :
[09:15] <idefix> yo jiau yourwelcom
[09:15] <orbin> hyperstream: what is it?
[09:16] <hyperstream> linux clone of fruity loops
[09:16] <Madpilot> !zh
[09:16] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.
[09:16] <intelikey> did exactly like before.   still  del=backspace
[09:16] <idefix> !webcam
[09:16] <ubotu> from memory, webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv.
[09:17] <Coldmeiser> hi all
[09:17] <Coldmeiser> could anyone please tell me how i can remove ubunto off my mac?
[09:17] <daaku> doms: a lot of active web/php/rails/css/xml/css developers have active blogs with development related posts, and usually have a delicious account with useful links to development related content (examples, tutorials, tricks...)
[09:17] <carlk> just installed http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/kismet - "FATAL: Could not find 'monitor' private ioctl or use the newer style 'mode monitor' command.  This typically means that the drivers have not been patched ..."   I seem to remember hearing that the ubuntu kernel included the orinoco patchs - how do I find out?
[09:17] <ic56> intelikey: the syntax is: <keystroke> : <function>  Where keystroke can be specified in a large variety of ways, including things like "M-x", "alt-ctrl-x", "DEL", "d", or a simple character like "a".
[09:18] <ic56> intelikey: and where function is one of the editing functions of the readline library, as listed in the bash manual.
[09:18] <carlk> Coldmeiser, put somethig else on
[09:18] <Coldmeiser> linux wont alow it
[09:18] <Coldmeiser> ive been trying all day
[09:18] <Tater> coldmeiser cant you just delete the partitions?
[09:18] <carlk> Coldmeiser, what are you trying to install?
[09:19] <Coldmeiser> im trying to get macos back on
[09:19] <orbin> delete the ubuntu partitions and restore the mac bootloader (is there such a thing)?
[09:19] <carlk> Coldmeiser, I would ask in a #macos channel
[09:19] <daaku> Coldmeiser: put in your OS X install cd/dvd, and boot while holding the  'c' key
[09:19] <carlk> or find a mac guy here :)
[09:19] <intelikey> ic56 yes i was trying to find a fix for it.
[09:20] <Coldmeiser> i bought this mac from a charity and it had ubuntu installed it has taken ove the mac
[09:20] <Coldmeiser> it wont allow any of the mac funtions
[09:20] <Coldmeiser> and it wasnt installed properly
[09:20] <Coldmeiser> so i need to remove it so i can install mac os
[09:20] <Tater> lol, it dosn't want you to install macos
[09:20] <carlk> Coldmeiser, linux is only on the drive, the mac is ... more
[09:21] <carlk> Coldmeiser, if daaku's help didnt help, try mine
[09:21] <Coldmeiser> linux wont let me do anything at all
[09:21] <intelikey> ic56 the question i have is, is forward-backward-delete-char the function i want.  is there not just a delete-char function ?
[09:21] <Tater> Coldmeiser, just reboot with a bootable install disc in the drive
[09:21] <Coldmeiser> ive done that linux wont allow a cd boot
[09:21] <carlk> Coldmeiser, I am sure if you ask nicely it will let you join a mac channel :)
[09:22] <Coldmeiser> even apple couldnt help
[09:22] <Coldmeiser> its a linux issue not a mac os issue
[09:22] <carlk> Coldmeiser, no, it isn't
[09:22] <Tater> Coldmeiser, linux has nothing to do with the bootup until the bootloader is loaded, check your bios options make sure the boot order of the disks is correct
[09:22] <Coldmeiser> YES IT IS
[09:22] <orbin> no it's not.  ubuntu doesn't stop you from being able to boot a cd
[09:22] <carlk> NO IT ISNT!
[09:23] <Tater> Coldmeiser, if you don't want to listen then no one can help you
[09:23] <Coldmeiser> well its not alowing me to do it
[09:23] <carlk> we just need to yell moe
[09:23] <Coldmeiser> ive been at it all day
[09:23] <Tater> Coldmeiser, linux has NOTHING to do with what your computer does when it boots up
[09:23] <hyperstream> Coldmeiser, rotf. linux doesnt control what boots up.
[09:23] <hyperstream> your motherboard aka bios does
[09:23] <Coldmeiser> ive been dealing with macs sicne i was a kid and have never in my life seen this
[09:23] <carlk> Coldmeiser, the "it" that is causing you problems isn't linux - it is something that happens before linux has a chance to do anything
[09:23] <highvoltage> or your bootloader, after that
[09:24] <ic56> intelikey: well, this function supposedly deletes what's under the cursor.  Though it turns out that it isn't *quite* right: at the end of the line, it changes behaviour to that of a regular backspace key.  There may be a more appropriate function.  But our main problem here is that you're getting no reaction.  Wait a min. Maybe readline config file isn't being read for you.  Let me check my env.
[09:24] <Coldmeiser> yaboot
[09:24] <carlk> Coldmeiser, unless linux has now taken over your house, power company, keyboard and microwave...
[09:24] <Coldmeiser> the guy who installed this os hasent done it properly
[09:24] <Tater> lmao
[09:24] <Tater> Coldmeiser, who cares, wipe the partitions and reinstall
[09:25] <Tater> boot from a floppy a cd whatever
[09:25] <carlk> Tater, can you re-partition a runnign drive?
[09:25] <Coldmeiser> LISTEN SMARTARSE IM ASKING FOR HELP NOT OHH GO FUCK YOURSELVS
[09:25] <daaku> Coldmeiser: do you have a Mac OS X install CD?
[09:25] <highvoltage> to late
[09:25] <daaku> oh well
[09:25] <highvoltage> that's the most agro mac user i've ever seen.
[09:25] <Tater> carlk yeah, you can't partition a mounted drive
[09:25] <intelikey> ic56 it is reading the .inputrc because one time it hosed the F keys
[09:26] <Tater> lol that dude was hilarious
[09:26] <Tater> Linux is the virus
[09:26] <carlk> I am curious about the "mac experts" that said it was a linux thing
[09:26] <Madpilot> highvoltage, he must have been suffering OSX withdrawl :P
[09:26] <intelikey> and another time the c key went south
[09:26] <daaku> hehe, and he has been 'dealing with macs sicne [he]  was a kid''
[09:26] <highvoltage> Madpilot: heh :)
[09:27] <capiCrimm> when I unclick expand for gnome little bar thingys are one each end of the panel. Anyone know how to get rid of them(there not auto-expand).
[09:27] <doms> SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('yourpassword');   what something do replace it
[09:27] <intelikey> a kid dealing with something sense they were a kid ?
[09:27] <carlk> daaku, guessing that is about 6 months :)
[09:28] <orbin> capiCrimm: if you want manual hide/unhide capabilit, the buttons need to be there
[09:28] <orbin> capabilit+y
[09:28] <ic56> intelikey: really?  Let's try this: map the function to the tab key.  specify TAB (3 letters uppercase) as the key.  Rest is same.  Let me know.  Don't login, just start a new bash to test it.
[09:29] <daaku> carlk: you give him too much credit :p
[09:29] <capiCrimm> orbin, they un/hide unhide.  I turned that off. These are like a seperator on each end of the panel.
[09:29] <intelikey> ic56 hmmmm odd  tab  only beeps at me...
[09:30] <orbin> capiCrimm: right-click>remove if that doesn't work post a screenshot
[09:30] <ic56> intelikey: your ctl-B'ing into the middle of your command line, press TAB, and the computer beeps?
[09:30] <intelikey> yes
[09:31] <doms> SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('yourpassword');   what something do replace it
[09:31] <Tater> Madpilot, thanks mang mp3 = working,  I got to learn how to use apt-get package system a lot better
[09:31] <intelikey> well not  ctl-B   but  [<-] 
[09:31] <Madpilot> Tater, cool
[09:31] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Tater about synaptic
[09:31] <ic56> intelikey: you said earlier you didn't have vi because this system was offline or something.  What did you mean?  Is this system at teh install stage?
[09:32] <Tater> I'm a Gentoo user myself, but wanted to give Ubuntu a shot and am really impressed so far as far as auto detection and install and what not went
[09:32] <intelikey> ic56 no no.  i'm on dialup and the boxes are not lan'd  so to get that box online i have to exit here...
[09:33] <daaku> Tater: i think the only thing i miss from gentoo is the colored output of gentoo related commands :)
[09:33] <ic56> intelikey: what do you mean by getting a box online?
[09:34] <Hattori> i'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/683195
[09:34] <Hattori> followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP but still got same problem
[09:34] <capiCrimm> is there any specific reason to use apt-get over aptitude? I've been using aptitude, but I see so many people still using apt-get, is there something I'm missing?
[09:34] <momo3> http://israel.275mb.com/index2.php
[09:34] <intelikey> me wonders what "online" means where ic56 is from.....   online means connected to the internet when said around here.
[09:35] <Tater> daaku, I miss the speed, I got two identical laptops both 1ghz celeron chips with 256Mbof ram, and the gentoo laptop is so much quicker
[09:35] <henryangelofruin> hi shit!!!!
[09:35] <ic56> intelikey: I mean, why do you need to disconnect from here in order to type something on the console of the other box?
[09:35] <henryangelofruin> fuck all!!!!
[09:35] <ic56> intelikey: wait, are you telling me you are dialing into the boxes which we are testing?  You are not physically at the console?
[09:35] <daaku> Tater: really? are you using dapper or breezy?
[09:36] <Tater> breezy
[09:36] <Hobbsee> henryangelofruin: that's unnecessary
[09:36] <Hobbsee> !language
[09:36] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[09:36] <momo3> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Google.htm
[09:36] <Tater> daaku you didn't notice a sizeable speed decrease in a lot of your apps, like loadtime of the app and what not
[09:37] <Hobbsee> heh
[09:37] <daaku> Tater: ah. i felt a slight general `slowness` with breezy too, but dapper's performance i felt is much better
[09:37] <Tater> hmmm maybe I will have to try this dapper that you speak of
[09:37] <capiCrimm> orbin, http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5.0.2&os=linux&lang=en-US
[09:37] <intelikey> ic56 we are obviously miscommunicating here.    i've been typing things on the consoles of both boxes...    what i said is that  vi is not installed on that box (this one either for that matter)  and that the box is not online so i can't install vi there.     had nothing to do with using the console....
[09:37] <daaku> Tater: this is my desktop system though, so when i say slow/fast, its mostly percieved performance, not necessarily actual performance
[09:37] <Hobbsee> weird.
[09:37] <Tater> anyway to flip breezy into dapper or will it require a reinstall
[09:38] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, ??
[09:38] <Hobbsee> Mad
[09:38] <Tater> daaku ahh, see the 256MB of ram really lets me see when things lag :P
[09:38] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: sorry, i thought my alias hadnt worked the first itme - i was attempting to ban the guy :P
[09:38] <daaku> Tater: also, iirc breezy doesnt have preempt, dapper does
[09:38] <capiCrimm> Tater, yes, but one you go dapper you really can't go back.
[09:38] <ic56> intelikey: ah, I see.  But both boxes have a full ubuntu install?
[09:38] <intelikey> i fixed it.
[09:38] <Tater> capiCrimm, I don't care about going back daaku preempt?
[09:39] <intelikey> ic56 you can stop helping me now.   i got it.   thanks for all your trubble.
[09:39] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: in fact, it didnt.  i've got no idea why though.  grr.
[09:39] <capiCrimm> Tater, then edit /etc/apt/sources to say dapper instead of breezy.
[09:39] <intelikey> ic56 yes hoary here and dapper there
[09:39] <ic56> intelikey: was it a typo in your typing-in the .inputrc config?
[09:39] <intelikey> ic56 no.
[09:39] <capiCrimm> Tater, then do $aptitude update and $aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:39] <ic56> intelikey: what was it then?
[09:40] <Tater> capiCrimm, from the console perform that?
[09:40] <carlk> how can I tell what patches have been applied to the kernel and modules? (in particular the orinoco)
[09:40] <daaku> can someone try google.com?
[09:41] <Tater> capiCrimm, do I just remove all instances of the word breezy and replace it with dapper?
[09:41] <mwe> carlk: download the linux-image package, that should get the patches as well I think
[09:41] <ryan_> i have just started on linux and not sure how to load any thing like drivers and programs
[09:41] <mwe> carlk: I did it and IIRC that was how
[09:42] <ic56> daaku: google.com pingable from Canada.
[09:42] <daaku> ic56: i can ping it too actually, but the page doesnt seem to load..
[09:42] <ryan_> can any one help me
[09:43] <daaku> damn it, crappy isp dns servers!!
[09:43] <Tater> root@ubuntu:/home/tyler# $aptitude update && $aptitude dist-update
[09:43] <Tater> bash: update: command not found
[09:43] <Tater> crap
[09:44] <Tater> stupid split
[09:44] <dvd-rw> wb :s
[09:45] <Tater> root@ubuntu:/home/tyler# $aptitude update && $aptitude dist-update
[09:45] <Tater> bash: update: command not found
[09:45] <Tater> capiCrimm, any idea on what I'm doing wrong there?
[09:46] <harisund> 668 nicks.Wow. Is that an average in this channel here?
[09:46] <intelikey> ic56 i added the laten1 mapping to the keyboard setup     it seems that that is where the delete key is mapped correctly     i  rm'd the .inputrc  and tested with the new US-laten1 keymap  and it works.    still don't have  ctrl+alt+del  reboot  fixed yet.
[09:46] <carlk> harisund, yup
[09:46] <intelikey> wonder if i could set that to ctrl-alt-f12  or something ?
[09:46] <doms> grant delete, insert, select, update on guestbook to root@localhost indentified by 1214;
[09:46] <intelikey> the line in this  inittab and that one are exactly the same  "ca:01:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now"
[09:46] <Madpilot> harisund, yes
[09:46] <capiCrimm> no one knows how to get rid of the bar thingies in this screenshot?
[09:46] <harisund> Wow ! I am really impressed..
[09:48] <capiCrimm> Tater, sorry channel must have got split or something. First you need sudo infront of the commands. Second $ was just to indicate prompt(and I should have used # because you need root). :D
[09:48] <ic56> intelikey: do you mean US-latin1 with an "i"?
[09:49] <Tater> yeah I ran that from root so do I still need sudo in front of the command even if I'm running it from root
[09:49] <capiCrimm> orbin, here's a screenshot http://tinyurl.com/lqjmq
[09:49] <intelikey> ic56 yeah did i typo that  :)
[09:49] <capiCrimm> Tater, no if your root, then you don't need sudo.
[09:49] <Tater> capiCrimm, yeah didn't think so
[09:50] <intelikey> i don't have sudo installed,  it can't be used here anyway.
[09:50] <capiCrimm> intelikey, how can you not have sudo installed with ubuntu, even server install gives you it?
[09:50] <Tater> man one of the wickedest pieces of software would have to be amarok, its the king of music players
[09:50] <ic56> intelikey: I don't think you can remap ctl-alt-del easily.  I think the choice of keystroke is hardcoded in the kernel.  Would love it if you proved me wrong though...
[09:51] <intelikey> capiCrimm i apt got removed it  :)
[09:51] <daaku> Tater: before google got lost, i was trying to find this: http://www.itworld.com/nl/lnx_tip/11022001/ (reg preempt)
[09:51] <intelikey> ic56 hmmmm   i like  a challange.....  let me see what can be done.
[09:52] <Tater> daaku, thanks capiCrimm what was the second command aptitude dist-update
[09:52] <capiCrimm> intelikey, ah. I personally never got how sudo is more secure if your giving root access with user-passwords.
[09:52] <capiCrimm> Tater, dist-upgrade
[09:52] <Tater> capiCrimm, ok thanks bro
[09:52] <intelikey> capiCrimm that's ok.   there are no passwords on this box either.
[09:52] <capiCrimm> update just refreshes apts cache of all the packages, update updates them, and dist-update updates them with special attention to dependencies.
[09:53] <intelikey> lol  passwd is not even installed.
[09:53] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  passwd -l
[09:53] <intelikey> bash: passwd: command not found
[09:53] <ikha> hy
[09:54] <capiCrimm> no one knows how to get rid of the little grey bars in the panels here -> http://tinyurl.com/lqjmq
[09:54] <er4z0r> re
[09:54] <ic56> : my inittab line (on breezy) reads: ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now
[09:54] <ic56> ^ for
[09:54] <ic56> ^ for intelikey
[09:54] <intelikey> ic56 that may well be the issue.    i'll add a 4 and see what it does.
[09:55] <intelikey> default is runlevel 4 on that box.   1 on this one.
[09:55] <ic56> intelikey: yes, that is definitely the issue.
[09:55] <capiCrimm> intelikey, I'm failing to see how you can log in without a password...
[09:55] <intelikey> that looks like that did.
[09:56] <intelikey> capiCrimm i don't log in on this box
[09:56] <sinap7> guenas
[09:56] <Nabiki> Good evening. :)
[09:56] <sinap7> alguien habla espaol?
[09:57] <sinap7> veo que nadie
[09:57] <sinap7> =(
[09:57] <capiCrimm> intelikey... now I'm stumped. Your a user on a box that your not logged into...
[09:57] <Hattori> i'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/683195
[09:57] <Hattori> followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP but still got same problem
[09:57] <intelikey> capiCrimm exactly
[09:58] <intelikey> capiCrimm i'm both a user and root on a box that no one can log in on
[09:58] <capiCrimm> intelikey, what are you, a system job that morphed some AI?
[09:58] <intelikey> lol
[09:59] <ic56> CariCrimm: the point of the sudo setup is that (1) the desktop user need not maintain a separate root account with config files and separate password and (2) said user is discouraged from making a habit of logging as root and doing daily work under that account.  Thus only sysadmin work is done with root privileges.  Not browsing, not mail reading, not any of the most likely infection vectors.
[09:59] <intelikey> well that's kinda the jest  but in reverse.   i setup an init function to open my console for me when it boots
[09:59] <r0xoR> r0xoR
[09:59] <r0xoR> O0o
[09:59] <r0xoR> hmm... i guess that works well enough
[10:00] <ic56>  the point of the sudo setup is that (1) the desktop user need not
[10:00] <ic56>   maintain a separate root account with config files and separate password and
[10:00] <ic56>   (2) said user is discouraged from making a habit of logging as root and
[10:00] <ic56>   doing daily work under that account.  Thus only sysadmin work is done with
[10:00] <ic56>   root privileges.  Not browsing, not mail reading, not any of the most likely
[10:00] <ic56>   infection vectors.
[10:00] <ic56> ooops! sorry!
[10:01] <intelikey> didn't i just read that....
[10:02] <intelikey> well sudo is not usable on systems that mount nosuid    so i never learned to like it.
[10:03] <carlk> "Kernel tree not found - please set KERNEL_PATH." - what do I need to apt-get?
[10:04] <intelikey> linux-source-<blah>
[10:04] <ic56> intelikey: your last statement about sudo is nonsensical. SUID is essential for basic unix functionality.  How do you think passwd works?  or su?
[10:04] <intelikey> ic56 all my boxes mount nosuid
[10:05] <intelikey> su is also un usable on this box
[10:06] <intelikey> ic56 also did you miss my statement about passwd not being installed on this box ?
[10:06] <ic56> intelikey: if you mount the filesystem containing /usr/bin with nosuid, then passwd won't work.  While that is perfectly acceptable for the kind of thing you are concocting, you cannot claim that as a reasonable multi-user unix setup.
[10:07] <intelikey> passwd will work.    you just have to login as root to use it.
[10:07] <intelikey> i know,   i use it on the other box.  and  all my boxes are no suid all mounts.
[10:08] <Fuzzy76> I'm a bit unsure where to report this... The install cd is case-insensitive for wlan ssids, while the installed desktop isn't. I typed my ssid with wrong casing at the install, and it worked. Up until the point where my system was installed and ready to go. And suddenly my wlan stopped working with no error message. :-/
[10:08] <mwe> intelikey: interesting. Out of curiousity why are you doing this?
[10:08] <ic56> intelikey: do you have an ordinary userid somewhere in your setup or do you run firefox as root?
[10:09] <intelikey> mwe cause it's linux.   because i can.   ;/
[10:09] <gud> peace! is this the right chanel to ask for noob-help?
[10:09] <carlk> FunnyLookinHat, launchpad.net - leave the package blank
[10:09] <ic56> !justask
[10:09] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[10:09] <mwe> intelikey: I not questioning what you are doing, just curious. can you explain what you can gain by doing it?
[10:09] <intelikey> ic56 i don't like ff  but i use a " ordinary userid "   for  all  non-admin  actions.
[10:10] <nomed> hi all
[10:10] <gud> im trying to delete a file, but it says i dont have sufficiant right or something
[10:10] <nomed> i remember quolibet had support for internet radio ...
[10:10] <gud> is there anyway i can use the "sudo"-thing here
[10:10] <nomed> is it just me ? ...or it's not there anymore ?
[10:10] <mwe> gud: sudo rm foobar
[10:10] <nomed> quodlibet even
[10:11] <gud> like sudo rm foobar /blabla/myfile?
[10:11] <mwe> gud: yeah. be sure it's ok to remove the file though
[10:11] <ic56> intelikey: so, to change the password for your ordinary userid, you login as root to do it?
[10:12] <intelikey> mwe on this particular install.  about 150m disk space that was desprately needed   on the others  where disk space is not tight,  just that i like the setup of no suid,   means that anything that comes in on the wire is less likely to be affecting the rest of the system....  that may just be mintel.  but i like it.
[10:13] <intelikey> ic56 on the boxes that have passwd  yes.   on this one there is no passwd and no login  *getty
[10:13] <ic56> gud: mwe meant:  "sudo rm /blabla/myfile"
[10:14] <mattsches> hi ... after updating to dapper, i've got a strange problem with some *.list files in /var/lib/dpkg/info that i can't chown/rm/whatever as root
[10:14] <mwe> gud: oh yes, what ic56 said. sudo rm foobar was a example. sudo rm /path/to/file is what you want
[10:15] <gud> mwe: i think its ok. im having trouble installing my wirelesscard. so i read here what i am to to : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623&page=23
[10:15] <intelikey> mattsches immutable ?   lsattr it
[10:15] <mattsches> anyone seen a user like this before?    -rw-r--r-- 1 2175008768 root 916 2005-10-15 01:27 emacs21-bin-common.list
[10:15] <gud> does it seem right?
[10:16] <mattsches> lsattr emacs21-bin-common.list
[10:16] <mattsches> s----a--c--XEj--- emacs21-bin-common.list
[10:16] <intelikey> s
[10:16] <gud> am i just to delete the whole ieee80211folder
[10:17] <intelikey> When  a  file  with  the  `s'  attribute set is deleted, its blocks are
[10:17] <intelikey>        zeroed and written back to the disk.
[10:17] <intelikey> hehhe there you go mattsches   man chattr
[10:18] <ic56> intelikey: ok, makes sense.  You couldn't run a multiuser system that way since the admin would have to do trivial tasks on behalf of the users.  Well, maybe in an espionage agency they'd want it that way.  With your unusual expertise setting up systems like that, you may have a future in that sector :-).
[10:18] <mattsches> so, what i do is chattr -s ?
[10:18] <intelikey> ic56 correct.   but a desktop is fine this way.
[10:19] <intelikey> mattsches you need to know why that file is set  attr s    before you go hosing the system.
[10:19] <intelikey> mattsches ask in #ubuntu+1  maybe someone in there knows why it's set
[10:20] <twisted`> hello?
[10:20] <twisted`> could someone tell me why I cannot send messages in #ubuntu+1?
[10:20] <doms> how to save a php in the text editor save as [       ] 
[10:20] <mattsches> ok, but when i do lsattr libspeex1.list, it returns ----iad-c-------- libspeex1.list .... no s attr set
[10:20] <doms> this is correct sign.php
[10:21] <intelikey> espionage agency   lol   missed that the first time  ic56   lol
[10:21] <doms> how to save a php in the text editor save as [       ] 
[10:21] <doms> this is correct sign.php
[10:21] <bliss1_> morning all
[10:21] <Fuzzy76> When trying to remove the package gaim, the package manager tells me it need to remove the "ubuntu-desktop" package. Could anyone explain that to me? I don't want to loose the entire ubuntu setup just over a simple IM client....
[10:22] <intelikey> mattsches that one is  set  i = imutable    hah  you need to  man chattr
[10:22] <dvd-rw> How can I have the same graph like that : http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-2.3jwm.jpg (right corner ;o), please?
[10:22] <bliss1_> nickrud: how you feeling?
[10:22] <doms> how to save a php in the text editor save as [       ] 
[10:22] <doms> this is correct sign.php
[10:23] <xoeslk> Fuzzy76, one time I installed firefox and it uninstalled gnome :?
[10:23] <bliss1_> ompaul: morning
[10:23] <Hobbsee> hi ompaul
[10:24] <ompaul> morning
[10:24] <Seveas> !goodmorning
[10:24] <Seveas> wtf
[10:24] <_eliphas> morning
[10:24] <Seveas> !forget goodmorning
[10:24] <ubotu> i forgot goodmorning, Seveas
[10:24] <_eliphas> :)
[10:25] <hns> Fuzzy76, Gnome is a metapackage which installs a lot of packages. You can safely remove it
[10:25] <Seveas> messing with the bot == ban
[10:25] <bliss1_> Seveas: fired -up and ready to go!
[10:25] <kittekat> Hi guys, I was wondering, how do I remove songs from a playlist in music player?
[10:26] <Seveas> kittekat, rightclick on it and select remove
[10:26] <intelikey> or hit the [del]   ?
[10:26] <Tater> can I remove gnome and install kde using the package manager or will that cause a lot of problems
[10:26] <kittekat> What if 'remove' is greyed out?
[10:26] <Seveas> Tater, you can
[10:26] <bliss1_> Is there a unbuntu wiki for labtops please?
[10:26] <Seveas> kittekat, grab a black pen ;)
[10:26] <Fuzzy76> hns: I didn't say Gnome, but "ubuntu-desktop". I'm guessing that's a metapackage that contains the preinstalled apps. But if I remove it, it won't remove the subpackages it contains?
[10:26] <FearMoth> is the lirc package broken in Dapper? I installed it, and in the Properties->Installed files of synaptic, it says it's supposed to install lircd.conf, hardware.conf etc in /etc/lirc, but the directory is empty after installing.
[10:26] <kittekat> I mean 'delete'
[10:27] <emperor> hi
[10:27] <Seveas> bliss1_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[10:27] <hns> Fuzzy76, sorry you are right, ubuntu-desktop is also a metapackage
[10:27] <Tater> Seveas, does the package manager use metapackage for gnome and kde or is it like gentoo where everything is broken down into components?
[10:27] <kittekat> I have been wondering for some time now why such an obvious feature always stays disabled - but it's not normal?
[10:27] <Madpilot> Fuzzy76, no - ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove - but re-install it before you do a dist-upgrade
[10:27] <bliss1_> Seveas: thanks
[10:27] <intelikey> tater sure you can,     ah dpkg is the package manager.  synaptic is only a frontend to dpkg  like apt or aptitude or adept
[10:27] <Seveas> Tater, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and you have KDE
[10:28] <gud> mwe: how do i delete a folder that way?
[10:28] <hns> Fuzzy76, you do not remove the subpackages, just the file gnome-desktop
[10:28] <Tater> Seveas, thanks mang, intelikey yeah I realize that, just wasn't sure if it was going to cause lots of dependency issues and what not
[10:28] <kittekat> Hey, anyone, what could be the reason that I cannot delete files from playlists then?
[10:29] <Fuzzy76> hns: Not "gnome-desktop" but "ubuntu-desktop". And I really don't want to remove that package, just a couple of it's subpackages.
[10:30] <Fuzzy76> Madpilot: Ah... I'm bound to forget that, so perhaps it's easier to stick with my current solution which is just hiding the apps I don't want from the program menu. :)
[10:30] <hns> Fuzzy76, i am still thinking in Debian-terms :-)
[10:30] <intelikey> Tater you will have lots of packages that you will not uninstall unless you use something like deborphan  or debfoster     removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't remove gnome or any of the other packages that ubuntu-desktop depends on.
[10:31] <Tater> intelikey, oh ok, I will look into deborphan then
[10:31] <hns> You can just remove the packages uou want, the metapackage is then also removed because you removed a part of the meta-package
[10:31] <kittekat> Hello? I was really serious about not being able to edit my playlists!
[10:31] <Fuzzy76> I see... I just got scared from the warning and thought it was about to remove the whole thing. :p
[10:32] <kittekat> I have worked around it by dragging all the stuff I wanted to keep to a new playlist
[10:32] <hns> don't worry you do not
[10:32] <kittekat> but it is getting quite annoying
[10:32] <hyphenated> kittekat: which music player? do you have permission to edit the playlist files?
[10:33] <starkes> hey, does anyone know what the mplayer plugin folder is?
[10:33] <kittekat> hyphenated, the 'music player' in the desktop
[10:33] <kittekat> rythmbox
[10:33] <kittekat> and I made the playlists so I should be able to delete them
[10:33] <kittekat> even if I drag one file from the library to a playlist, I cannot delete it from that list
[10:34] <kittekat> but I can delete the whole list
[10:34] <intelikey> but i still mainly use  'play'
[10:34] <kittekat> intelikey, if I needed that sort of advice... yeah I use xmms too but it don't give me those nice features like sorting on artist and reading the id3 tags properly
[10:35] <kittekat> I like this player, and Amarok is no alternative.
[10:35] <intelikey> sorry i wasn't trying to advise you.  was just commenting.
[10:35] <Tater> Amarok rules :P
[10:35] <hyphenated> kittekat: I just right-clicked on an item in the playlist and clicked delete
[10:35] <kittekat> hyphenated, then this is weird.
[10:36] <hyphenated> kittekat: possibly not
[10:36] <hyphenated> kittekat: I saw an "Automatic Playlist" thing in there
[10:36] <kittekat> what version do you use?
[10:36] <hyphenated> those might not be editable
[10:36] <kittekat> I have not noticed difference between automatic and hand made ones.
[10:36] <hyphenated> my version says 0.9.1
[10:36] <kittekat> breezy?
[10:36] <kittekat> mine is 0.9.0
[10:36] <Jku> Anyone interested in helping me troubleshoot a pcmcia ethernet adapter? The thing worked in Breezy out-of-the-box, stopped functioning in Dapper. details at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pcmciautils/+bug/41306
[10:36] <hyphenated> yes, breezy
[10:37] <hyphenated> Jku: #ubuntu+1
[10:37] <Jku> Thanks
[10:38] <intelikey> well all errors sorted out here.   guess that means i'll leave for a few days. until i deside to change something.....
[10:38] <FearMoth> Is the lirc package broken in Dapper?
[10:38] <hyphenated> FearMoth: #ubuntu+1
[10:39] <gnomefreak> FearMoth: ask in #ubuntu+1 we use #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[10:39] <kittekat> maybe I should remove and reinstall it
[10:39] <FearMoth> thx
[10:39] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:39] <kittekat> hyphenated, where did you get the newer version?
[10:39] <kittekat> I only see 0.9.0 in synaptic
[10:41] <starkes> hey, does anyone know what the mplayer plugin folder is?
[10:41] <wifi_tux> lut a tous
[10:41] <hyphenated> kittekat: *shrug* breezy-updates repo, probably.
[10:41] <wifi_tux> ya kelkun ki est de caen ?
[10:42] <dvd-rw> non
[10:42] <hyphenated> !fr
[10:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:42] <mattsches> intelikey: chattr -ai helped ... could remove the broken .list files and run apt-get install again
[10:42] <wifi_tux> ok @+ bye bye
[10:42] <kittekat> hyphenated, I run ubuntu on this machine to 'experiment' with user friendlyness - it's slack + wmaker normally and, yes, I'm a lot more productive on that, but I have less fun.
[10:44] <kittekat> while I'm at it, anyone here can tell me quickly how to change the default wmanager in gnome? I havent' found a gui for it yet :(
[10:46] <kittekat> hyphenated, I re-installed the same rythmbox with synaptic and now it lets me edit hand made playlists.
[10:46] <kittekat> beautifull
[10:46] <hyphenated> kittekat: neat. odd, but neat.
[10:47] <kittekat> bit weird yes. anyhow, it's not a stable app yet and you know how it works...
[10:48] <kittekat> so, on to the next issue - totem - why is it so bad and why doesn't it scale any of the movies it plays? I want to play movies from samba mounts
[10:48] <kittekat> now I always have to grope around in bash to mount the stuff, do some 'sudo su' and use mplayer
[10:48] <gnomefreak> kittekat: did you try totem-xine?
[10:48] <Tater> kittekat, I've had really good luck playing videos off of smb shares using mplayer
[10:49] <kittekat> I think it's gstreamer now, the xine stuff crashed too much.
[10:49] <kittekat> Tater, you recompiled with gnome vfs support?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> kittekat: oh i have totem-xine still ;)
[10:49] <Tater> Well that is on my gentoo install
[10:49] <Tater> so no, not using ubuntu
[10:49] <kittekat> Tater, yes, but I don't feel like installing all the dev stuff
[10:50] <kittekat> getting ubuntu ready for my development work was a lot of tweaking and last time I looked it still didn't compile mplayer with gnome vfs
[10:51] <kittekat> ( wich I totally support since I've started 'browsing' the network shares for the first time since I run linux)
[10:53] <kittekat> wich file do I have to edit to make gnome use 'openbox' instead of metacity?
[10:53] <kittekat> there's so many files - it's time for a 'registry'
[10:54] <Tater> :P
[10:54] <ice_1963> :)
[10:55] <kittekat> so, anyone knows it?
[10:55] <ice_1963> but i like Blackbox better :)
[10:55] <zF> !sources
[10:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:55] <kittekat> ice_1963, I don't like wmanagers with cryptic config files and no built in support for slapping a jpeg on the background
[10:56] <kittekat> the reason I once migrated from blackbox to wmaker
[10:56] <kittekat> openbox just looks better then wmaker with gnome.
[10:57] <kittekat> no, it whas the --replace option that got me starting to use it
[10:57] <zF> is there a way to select all/delete currently highlighted in nano?
[10:57] <kittekat> and only because metacity doesn't allow moving windows over the top of the screen.
[10:57] <kittekat> ctrl-K
[10:58] <Tater> zF no but ctrl-K will wipe an entire line
[10:58] <kittekat> indeed.
[10:58] <zF> Thanks
[10:58] <zF> That'll do
[10:58] <kittekat> zF, it's in the bottom of your screen :)
[10:59] <kittekat> wishlist #2
[10:59] <zF> how do you create a file with the following text just while in bash?
[10:59] <zF> like
[10:59] <linux_lover> Would somebody mind helping me mount a secondary hd?
[10:59] <zF> a file called sources.list
[10:59] <gnomefreak> just remember the ^ is ctrl
[10:59] <zF> finger?
[10:59] <kittekat> a decent hybrid between gvim and Nedit
[10:59] <kittekat> zF, echo "bla" > to file
[10:59] <kittekat> echo "this gets appended" >> file
[10:59] <linux_lover> I'm only semi-n00b, so it should be fairly easy. :)
[11:00] <kittekat> echo "this is a line / and that was a line break"
[11:00] <dvd-rw> i'm a pro who beggins
[11:00] <dvd-rw> :x
[11:00] <kittekat> something like that.
[11:00] <linux_lover> Need to mount, wipe drive, and install one big ext3 partition....
[11:00] <MistaED> hey does anyone know of a smbfs frontend for gnome? gnomevfs pretty much just makes a shortcut to an smb://
[11:01] <MistaED> like OSX how you can connect by mounting it to the filesystem
[11:01] <gnomefreak> linux_lover: what fs is there now?
[11:01] <kittekat> linux_lover, if you need to wipe it, you don't need to mount it
[11:01] <kittekat> mkfs /dev/hda0 will do
[11:01] <kittekat> mk3fs /dev/hda0 will do
[11:01] <gnomefreak> libyou cn always use gparted or qtparted or something like that
[11:01] <kittekat> or whatever - read manpage
[11:02] <linux_lover> gnomefreak It's possible it's already ext3, and doesn't need it.  I'm only 75% positive though.
[11:02] <kittekat> linux_lover, do you have to repartition?
[11:03] <ic56> kittekat: I think you can change the window manager by modifying /usr/share/gnome/default.wm
[11:03] <zF> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[11:03] <zF> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[11:03] <linux_lover> kittekat Probably not.
[11:03] <zF> Why am I getting these errors while trying to update my sources?
[11:03] <kittekat> ic56, thanks.
[11:03] <gnomefreak> zF: paste your full /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[11:03] <linux_lover> kittekat I'm relatively certain it's already ext3 and simply needs mounting.
[11:03] <kittekat> linux_lover, so you have this partition, don't care what's on it, and you want to wipe it put ext3 on it
[11:04] <kittekat> sudo mount /dev/hdx0 /mnt/
[11:04] <linux_lover> kittekat Pretty much.  Just need the HD empty and ready to store things on.
[11:04] <kittekat> sudo mount -t auto /dev/hdx0 /mnt/
[11:04] <kittekat> that's the shell command for mounting
[11:04] <kittekat> it's fairly easy
[11:04] <gnomefreak> zF: and if your using dapper you should be in #ubuntu+1 for all dapper related disscusion
[11:04] <Seveas> zF, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu*; sudo apt-get update
[11:04] <zF> http://pastebin.com/684556
[11:04] <kale77in> Q: Recently, trying to install subversion (from Deb repos) tells me ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop will be removed. Doing a full apt-get upgrade doesn't change this. Is there an at least 'semi-official' subversion package?
[11:05] <linux_lover> kittekat And how am I to be cetain it's HD1 I'm mounting and not HD0?
[11:05] <kittekat> it depends - what disk your operating system is on and h
[11:05] <kittekat> how many disks you have in the system
[11:05] <kittekat> you can always check what is mounted by typing 'mount'
[11:05] <gnomefreak> zF: run what Seveas suggested
[11:06] <kittekat> mount will give you the disks that are already mounted
[11:06] <zF> Seveas / gnomefreak : still gives me the same error.
[11:06] <linux_lover> kittekat I'm using Ubuntu (5.10) on it right now.  I need to add my second HD (HD1).
[11:06] <Seveas> kale77in, there is a subversion package in the ubuntu repositories...
[11:06] <kittekat> that's propably /dev/hdb
[11:06] <kittekat> or hdc
[11:06] <kittekat> or hdd
[11:07] <Tater> just edit your fstab file
[11:07] <kittekat> depending on how many IDE devices you have.
[11:07] <kale77in> Seveas: That's good... (I'd heard there wasn't). I'll check it; thx.
[11:07] <kittekat> you can type 'dmesg | more' to see your bootup messages - it will tell you what harddisks it found inside the system and tell you the names.
[11:07] <sneex> lol
[11:08] <Seveas> !info subversion
[11:08] <ubotu> subversion: (advanced version control system (aka. svn)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1255 kB, Installed size: 4728 kB
[11:08] <Seveas> ^-- kale77in
[11:09] <kittekat> ic56, I have changed that file already, but still its metacity
[11:09] <kale77in> Seveas: thanks. I've just realised my apt/sources is for warty... might change that. :/
[11:09] <Seveas> kale77in, warty is no longer supported
[11:10] <kittekat> anyone here knows hwat file I have to change in ubuntu to start gnome with 'openbox' instead of metacity? I have googled but couldn't find it.
[11:10] <feifei> hello everyone
[11:10] <ic56> kittekat: looks like there are complications with changing window managers in GNOME.  metacity is mentioned in many config files in /usr/share eg to load its help files, theme info, etc.  Also, I see the  env var is observed in /usr/bin/gnome-wm which *doesn't* look at the config file I mentioned.  Hmmm either the config file is ignored or the env var...
[11:10] <sneex> kittekat, have you changed the .dmrc file?
[11:10] <sad> how can i install .bin files
[11:11] <kittekat> .dmrc ? interesting
[11:11] <kittekat> Session=gnome
[11:11] <kittekat> no, nothing interesting.
[11:11] <sneex> mine says kde
[11:11] <sad> how can i install .bin files?
[11:11] <kittekat> then you're on kde :)
[11:11] <sneex> not sure about openbox
[11:11] <kittekat> sad, run them from the shell
[11:11] <kittekat> sh file.bin
[11:12] <jnk> kittekat, maybe see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-128258.html
[11:12] <kittekat> chmod +x file.bin to run them for the next time.
[11:12] <sneex> .gnomerc then
[11:13] <kittekat> sneex, no sutch thing
[11:13] <linux_lover> kittekat Could you plz resend those instrcutions for hdb one more time?
[11:13] <sad> i dont works
[11:13] <sneex> kittekat, create it
[11:13] <sad> it dont works
[11:13] <kittekat> linux_lover, the mount command?
[11:13] <kittekat> mount -t auto /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[11:13] <kittekat> the directory /mnt will be the location where you mount it.
[11:14] <linux_lover> kittekat Yeah, I think it's as simple as simply mounting hdb (I rememeber now that it's already ext3)
[11:14] <kittekat> sneex, any idea what kinda proze it needs?
[11:14] <jnk> sad: what does it tell you when you type "./file.bin" after "chmod +x file.bin"?
[11:14] <sneex> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-128258.html  was already suggested by jnk
[11:14] <ic56> kittekat did you try $WINDOW_MANAGER  ?
[11:14] <sad> error while loading shared libraries
[11:15] <linux_lover> kittekat so /home if that's where I wanted to place it?
[11:15] <kittekat> ic56, no, but I'm reading the forum thread. Seems like Gnome is not that stable
[11:15] <jnk> sad,  can you paste the output of "ldd file.bin" to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:15] <kittekat> linux_lover, /home might not be such a good place
[11:15] <linux_lover> kittekat Any suggestions? ;)
[11:15] <sneex> mkdir /hd2
[11:16] <kittekat> linux_lover, if you wish to use that disk as your new 'home' partition, you should first copy /home to it
[11:16] <kittekat> and then you should edit fstab,
[11:16] <jnk> linux_lover, what's on this partition? if it's indeed the home directories, then /home is fine, otherwise it's quite wrong
[11:16] <ic56> sneex: what is .dmrc for?  There's no mention of it in the man hierarchy...
[11:16] <kittekat> and then you should go to a shell,
[11:16] <kittekat> and mount your home partition
[11:16] <sneex> .dmrc is the current display manager session: gnome, kde, defualt, etc
[11:16] <linux_lover> kittekat Assume it's a blank drive...where would you put it?
[11:16] <Speedy2> Hey all.  I just installed the damned ATI fglrx video drivers.  Oddly it's using it's own set of "Modelines".  Anyone know where to look to fix this?
[11:16] <kittekat> put it on /data
[11:16] <kittekat> :)
[11:17] <kittekat> that's where I have it :)
[11:17] <kittekat> mkdir /data
[11:17] <kittekat> sudo mkdir /data
[11:17] <kittekat> Speedy2, there's a setup utility?
[11:17] <ic56> sneex: I'm not good with GUIs.  Could you please elaborate on what that means?
[11:17] <kittekat> Speedy2, it even configures tvout and such.
[11:17] <sad> where can i find my installed softwares
[11:18] <Speedy2> kittekat:  I ran it and told it 1280x1024 for my resolution.  But my monitor has not DDC and it it seems to default to 1600x1200
[11:18] <linux_lover> Kittekat So, to recap: mount -t auto /dev/hdb1 /data
[11:18] <Speedy2> kittekat:  And I can't seem to find where it inserted it's own modelines.  It's not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf !
[11:18] <gnomefreak> sad: dpkg -L
[11:18] <sad> where can i find my installed softwares
[11:18] <sneex> ic56, it means when i log in I want the LAST session to be used, which ever one I used last session
[11:18] <kittekat> Speedy2, then make a section 'Modes'
[11:18] <jnk> sad, please rephrase your question
[11:18] <kittekat> it's in the Display section
[11:19] <kittekat> google for a xorg.conf file
[11:19] <ic56> sneex: aha.  Thanks!
[11:19] <Speedy2> kittekat:  This is the odd part.  I have all the relevant data in the xorg.conf -- fglrx keeps using it own modelines
[11:19] <kittekat> linux_lover, yes, if you have made /data first it'll work
[11:19] <Speedy2> There isn't even the word "modeline" in my xorg.conf
[11:19] <sneex> Mine looks like this most days:
[11:19] <sneex> [Desktop] 
[11:19] <sneex> Session=default
[11:19] <kittekat> Speedy2, yes, so you should add some?
[11:20] <Speedy2> kittekat:  The Xorg conf is unchanged from when it was working correctly with my old TNT2 (at 1280x1024)
[11:20] <Speedy2> fglrx is overriding xorg
[11:20] <jnk> Speedy2, neither in mine, and it's working fine
[11:20] <kittekat> ? Speedy2, that's propably not correct.
[11:20] <dvd-rw> please, How can I set Windows to be the default OS ?? (I know that i must edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst, but I don't know how to modify it :s)
[11:20] <Speedy2> jnk:  My issue is that with gflrx it's defaulting to 1600x1200
[11:20] <kittekat> your xorg.conf should be changed to reflect the new drivers.
[11:20] <jnk> Speedy2, your xorg conf should tell xorg to use the fglrx driver
[11:21] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell dvd-rw about grub
[11:21] <Speedy2> gflrx is loading, I can tell that from the /var/log log file
[11:21] <kittekat> Speedy2, and then, you should have a section 'Modes'
[11:21] <Speedy2> It is there I see mentions of modelines
[11:21] <gnomefreak> btw dvd-rw its also in your help icon starter guide
[11:21] <kittekat> with a list of Modes
[11:21] <Speedy2> kittekat: Right, I've got it and it only lists 1280x1024 for 24 bpp
[11:22] <vincent__> Hello all !
[11:22] <dvd-rw> ok ...
[11:22] <kittekat> Speedy2, and it is using 24 bpp?
[11:22] <dvd-rw> thx :D
[11:22] <jnk> Speedy2, could you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[11:22] <Speedy2> kittekat:  Yeah
[11:22] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:22] <Speedy2> jnk:  Will I get banned for pasting it in here?
[11:22] <jnk> yes
[11:22] <kittekat> hm.. hm.. I tried sending you mine with some option in this xchat stuff
[11:22] <linux_lover> kittekat I made data, but it still says /data doesn't exist as a mount point..
[11:22] <jnk> Speedy2, paste to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:23] <vincent__> (Hiya NoUse :) )
[11:23] <kittekat> linux_lover, you did "sudo mkdir /data" ?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> Speedy2: i wouldnt take that chance ;)
[11:23] <kittekat> linux_lover, if it says that, you don't have a /data
[11:23] <Speedy2> vincent__:  I sent you a /msg, can you answer it?
[11:23] <vincent__> NoUse : don't see msg... sorry
[11:24] <linux_lover> kittkat My bad...<kicks self> I made data, not /data...
[11:24] <linux_lover> mount
[11:24] <kittekat> linux_lover, every error has a reason, and a logic - and there's no such thing as 'black magic'
[11:24] <gnomefreak> vincent__: your not identified to nickserv
[11:24] <HiddenWolf> Can I make grub boot the last entry in the list?
[11:24] <kittekat> so if it say's 'could not resolve' it means it isn't there :)
[11:24] <vincent__> ahem.... where am I going wrong??
[11:25] <kittekat> HiddenWolf, move it up to the first?
[11:25] <Speedy2> I think I found the problem, one second
[11:25] <jnk> HiddenWolf, sure, just set the "default" line accordingly in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:25] <vincent__> BRB
[11:25] <gnomefreak> vincent__: to get pms you both have to be registed and idnetified to nickserv
[11:25] <HiddenWolf> jnk, point is that I don't want to set it to entry5, since that'd break with a kernel update
[11:26] <linux_lover> kittekat Hrmm, I don't see the HD in data after running that command..
[11:26] <kittekat> linux_lover, type mount
[11:27] <kittekat> it gives you a list of mounted devices
[11:27] <vincent__> What's this mean : Un CTCP VERSION de freenode-connect a t reu
[11:27] <sneex> your irc client version
[11:27] <sneex> its normal
[11:28] <kittekat> who has a gp2x here?
[11:28] <vincent__> ok.. gotta question : Is /ect/modprobe.d/blacklist launched on reboot???
[11:28] <jnk> HiddenWolf, I don't know then... I'd put it on top indeed
[11:28] <kittekat> http://www.gp2xshop.com/
[11:28] <jnk> HiddenWolf, or is it where new kernels are added?
[11:28] <sneex> depends upon your question kittekat
[11:29] <jnk> vincent__, it's ok, it meens the server asked your client for its version
[11:29] <kittekat> sneex, oh, I was wondering if it takes cif cards
[11:29] <vincent__> jnk : Thx :)
[11:29] <linux_lover> kittekat I see it in mount (hdb1 and hda1) but I can't find it graphically..
[11:29] <vincent__> ..
[11:30] <kittekat> linux_lover, go to filesystem, /data dir
[11:30] <kittekat> if you like, use the shell, and type " cd /data"
[11:30] <sneex> kittekat, i have no idea -- the web site doesnt say?
[11:30] <kittekat> sneex, well, it's a 'game console' running linux and mplayer
[11:30] <sneex> im heading out -- night all
[11:30] <kittekat> with tvout.
[11:30] <sneex> lol
[11:30] <kittekat> it takes aa batteries
[11:30] <sneex> that sonds nice
[11:31] <sneex> how long will aa batts last ?
[11:31] <jnk> linux_lover, I guess you have to add it to /etc/fstab, logout and login again
[11:31] <kittekat> and costs 175 dollars
[11:31] <kittekat> sneex, dunnow
[11:31] <kittekat> but you can buy new ones everywhere :)
[11:31] <sneex> get two and we can try them out =)
[11:31] <sneex> ;-)
[11:31] <kittekat> linux_lover, yes, if all of this has worked, add it to fstab for permanent setup
[11:32] <kIOski> anyone here uses wine and dvddecrypter ???
[11:32] <kittekat> sneex, does it sound I'm that fat in money?
[11:32] <sneex> lol, um, no?
[11:32] <sneex> =)
[11:32] <kittekat> sneex, they even take cif cards - means you could have wifi
[11:32] <kittekat> and there is a ps/1 emulator for it.
[11:33] <vincent__> ok.. gotta question : Is /ect/modprobe.d/blacklist launched on reboot???
[11:34] <jnk> kIOski, did you read http://mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[11:34] <kIOski> yea
[11:34] <kIOski> it cant find the dvd
[11:35] <kIOski> drive
[11:36] <kIOski> dont kniow why
[11:36] <jnk> did you follow the instructions on that page? like the "ln -s /media/cdrom d:"
[11:36] <kIOski> im using crossoveroffice
[11:36] <kIOski> can i use the same options ?
[11:37] <jnk> I don't know
[11:37] <kIOski> lets try then
[11:38] <jnk> good luck
[11:38] <zzz> Anybody can help me.Thans in advance.If i connect the USB disk to  the computer before i power on my Ubuntu 5.1,Sometimes partitions of my USB disk are not mounted automatically .
[11:39] <vincent__> zzz.. i'm experiencing USB disk probs too !
[11:39] <zzz> And i am not able to mount it by myself
[11:39] <Bergcube> When I power down a system I get a message in the console telling it is going to shut down.  I want to send messages to other users logging into the same machine in a similar way.  Is there any command like "broadcast" or "tell"?  (I've tried both those but that wasn't it...)
[11:39] <vincent__> zzz: is your fstab correct ?
[11:40] <zzz> yes,vincent
[11:40] <vincent__> if you unplug replug the disk, you get it all back ?
[11:40] <zzz> i mean sometimes
[11:40] <zzz> not always
[11:41] <zzz> Some times,only one partition was mounted automatically.But
[11:41] <zzz> i got two partions on my disk
[11:41] <zzz> Yes,i f i unplug and replug the disk,everything is ok
[11:42] <vincent__> I wisk it was taht simple for me! LOL !
[11:43] <vincent__> I can't help you more, if fstab is ok and you see disk,  then someone else will have to help you.. sorry
[11:43] <ruschi> Who has experience with serial CARDBUS adapters?
[11:43] <GoRoDeK> hi, i have a ide disk crypted with cryptsetup, but for an unkown reason ubuntu or I created partitions on the crypted disk (while encrypted! fdisk -l shows the partitions) with an unkown file system on it. how do i proceed to rescue the data on the disk?
[11:44] <zzz> vincent,thanks
[11:44] <ruschi> I have an OXCB950 Cardbus 16950 UART and hwinfo tells me everything is all right
[11:44] <ruschi> and I see /dev/ttyS0-S4
[11:45] <ruschi> but if I do cat /dev/ttyS0 I get input/output error
[11:45] <AngryElf> GoRoDeK, find a bigger disc and make an image first so you can try again if you screw up
[11:45] <gypsymauro> hello
[11:45] <zzz> Would anybody please help me,thanks in advance
[11:45] <gypsymauro> there is a way to install mozilla firefox 1.5 on breezy?
[11:45] <ruschi> I think it is more a generic serial issue not cardbus specific
[11:45] <AngryElf> !firefox
[11:45] <skpl> does the version of ssh packed with ubuntu support socks?
[11:46] <ruschi> anyone had methods to test the serial port?
[11:46] <GoRoDeK> AngryElf, only have too disks and both of them have 250 gbyte space on it ;(
[11:46] <ruschi> and debug what is going on?
[11:46] <AngryElf> gypsymauro, there's a writeup on the wiki
[11:46] <AngryElf> GoRoDeK, i've been in a similar situation, i wrected m partition table once
[11:46] <Madpilot> !+ff1.5
[11:46] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:47] <AngryElf> GoRoDeK, if i hadn't created an image i would've lost everything on my first attempt
[11:47] <ruschi> who uses serial ports here?
[11:47] <AngryElf> i do
[11:47] <GoRoDeK> AngryElf, what have you done to get your data back?
[11:47] <ruschi> Angry
[11:48] <AngryElf> i dont remember, it was a long time ago...it had nothing to do with cryptsetup though, i've never heard of it
[11:48] <ruschi> AngryElf, are ther eany issues with yours?
[11:48] <AngryElf> i use it with lirc....and no
[11:48] <Speedy2> Who all has an ATI card here using fglrx?
[11:48] <ruschi> and you can do a cat /dev/ttyS0 ?
[11:49] <ruschi> or do you get i/o erros as well
[11:49] <skpl> can someone help me? i am trying to install a program and i got this error: ./configure: line 24: lrelease: command not found
[11:49] <AngryElf> no, I/O error
[11:49] <AngryElf> and it's working
[11:49] <m_0_r_0_n> Where is the address field in nautilus to enter a address like font:// ...
[11:49] <ruschi> so you get an error although it is working?
[11:49] <AngryElf> yes, but it's in use, so that doesn't surprise me
[11:49] <AngryElf> you may have to use setserial
[11:50] <Speedy2> skpl:  Do a search and find out what package as "lrelease" and install it
[11:50] <AngryElf> setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none  <--should clear the port
[11:50] <det_> I noticed that in the Flight 4 Live CD NetworkManger shows up by default but in the beta I have to install network-manager-gnome, is this intentional?
[11:50] <ruschi> I use it and it works I can set UARTS and so on
[11:50] <ruschi> I try
[11:50] <skpl> Speedy2 ok
[11:50] <AngryElf> got me :(
[11:50] <AngryElf> what are you trying to do?
[11:51] <ruschi> good, I cleared it
[11:51] <alex_> Hi all !
[11:51] <ruschi> I am trying to get old addresses from my very old cellphone on my computer
[11:51] <alex_> I have nothing to do, i'm on school....
[11:51] <AngryElf> oh, fun :(
[11:52] <ruschi> for this I use SCMXX and a borrows CARDBUS serial card
[11:52] <ruschi> I remember I did this some years ago with a proper PC with serial interfaces and it worked
[11:53] <ruschi> now I get Accessing device /dev/ttyS0...Error in flushing buffers: Input/output error
[11:54] <ruschi> with windows it wroked, so at the moment it more an issue of pride. I want to get it working
[11:56] <kittekat> ahl, it worked. openbox is nice
[12:00] <sn00p> what is the default password for root on ubuntu it didn't ask me to make one
[12:00] <dvd-rw[eat] > sn00p: sudo passwd and choose one
[12:01] <LazySod> sn00p, it doesn't have one
[12:01] <LazySod> !sudo
[12:01] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:01] <LazySod> !root
[12:01] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:01] <sn00p> I got it
[12:02] <sn00p> ubuntu doesn't have eterm in is repository?
[12:03] <zzz> Ahha,i love ubuntu.So nice a system
[12:03] <zzz> I got my Palm working now
[12:03] <pax> me too, but it's mine not yours
[12:04] <snail> we're an institution looking to use ubuntu as part of a large managed desktop environment. where should I got to learn from other's mistakes?
[12:04] <acid-trip> whats a good dvd copying program to use for ubuntu?
[12:04] <ic56> !edubuntu
[12:04] <ubotu> Edubuntu is the education version of ubuntu (essentially ubuntu + educational apps + ltsp).  Website - http://www.edubuntu.org. Tour - http://edubuntu.org/tour.html
[12:05] <sn00p> ubuntu is nice but the default window manager reminds me to much of XP
[12:05] <dvd-rw[eat] > ltsp is in edubuntu?!?
[12:05] <LazySod> dvd-rw[eat] , yepp
[12:05] <dvd-rw[eat] > i didn't kniw  that ...
[12:05] <dvd-rw[eat] > nice ;o
[12:05] <zzz> Why snoop
[12:05] <dvd-rw[eat] > *know :x
[12:06] <sn00p> How do I mount this hardrive in  linux using what format its a ntfs fs?
[12:06] <sn00p> Its better than debian tho
[12:07] <zzz> I used to use debian
[12:07] <sn00p> yea me to
[12:07] <zzz> I am lazy,so.....
[12:08] <zzz> :)
[12:08] <sn00p> doesn't hurt to be lazy
[12:08] <theD3viL> how to lock some folder with password?
[12:08] <sn00p> especially when big ass ceos making $400million
[12:09] <sn00p> I think I lost data on my one hardrive
[12:09] <zzz> You can't mout your disk,sn00p
[12:09] <zzz> ?
[12:09] <sn00p> zzz: I try mount -t vfat /dev/hdb /windows it says wrong fs type
[12:10] <sn00p> it says bad super block or something
[12:10] <zzz> What's your fs.
[12:10] <sn00p> ntfs
[12:10] <chaumurky> it's not ntfs?
[12:10] <sn00p> i formatted it in windows
[12:10] <zzz> Did you mount it with -t ntfs
[12:10] <sn00p> Yea same error
[12:10] <sn00p> I hope I didn't lose the data on there
[12:11] <chaumurky> can you still boot into it?
[12:11] <sn00p> I fear I did
[12:11] <zzz> Does it work under windows ?
[12:11] <sn00p> it doesn't have an os on it
[12:11] <sn00p> just a data drive
[12:11] <cahill_john> hey ppl i have no bashrc file !!
[12:11] <cahill_john> boohooooo
[12:11] <sn00p> this is making me mad
[12:12] <chaumurky> do you have a windows inastallation to boot into? Perhaps do a chkdsk
[12:12] <cahill_john> hey ppl!
[12:12] <zzz> Easy,sn00p,.Does it stil work in windows
[12:12] <cahill_john> i cant find my bashrc file
[12:12] <sn00p> zzz: no
[12:12] <sn00p> zzz: it wouldn't let me mount it unless I formatted it
[12:12] <chaumurky> oh dear...
[12:12] <sn00p> which is BS because there is data on there
[12:12] <zzz> Ok,
[12:12] <chaumurky> don't do that yat
[12:13] <zzz> Oh,
[12:13] <sn00p> I want the data
[12:13] <casper> Hey i need some serious help, just installed ubuntu,and my laptop isnt happy!
[12:14] <sn00p> zzz: any ideas?
[12:14] <chaumurky> can you get a hold of a data recovery program like rstudio? I've saved myself a couple of times that way. It can pull data off a quick formatted drive - even one without a file table.
[12:14] <sn00p> rstudio for linux?
[12:14] <chaumurky> no, for windows - need the ntfs support.
[12:15] <sn00p> I dont ahve windows no more
[12:15] <chaumurky> ahh, bummer (never thought I'd say that...)
[12:15] <sn00p> hahah and I refuse to install it again
[12:16] <chaumurky> well, it depends on how badly you want your data back.........
[12:16] <sn00p> well its just a bunch of porn
[12:16] <sn00p> lol
[12:16] <chaumurky> like I said before........ ;)
[12:16] <chaumurky> hehe
[12:17] <sn00p> damn good ones too
[12:17] <sn00p> I dont want to waste my time d/l'ing them agan
[12:17] <sn00p> again
[12:17] <zzz> Sorry,sn00p,i think i can't help you more.Phsical errors occur.
[12:18] <chaumurky> maybe you can plug the drive into another MS box (you'd have to have a trusting friend...)
[12:18] <AngryElf> hmmm....does firestarter not work? because when I R-click > disable events from source > reload, they're all still there
[12:18] <sn00p> all that good porn
[12:18] <sn00p> :(
[12:18] <zzz> If your hardrive doesn't under windows.Physical error occur,i think
[12:18] <AngryElf> and, why doesn't X-chat show up in firestarter?
[12:19] <chaumurky> perhaps you could install fuse and get ntfs support going - if you're running dapper it's pretty easy and in the wiki
[12:19] <Ditlev> how do I change screensize ?
[12:19] <Ditlev> resolution
[12:19] <_jason> Ditlev: system > prefs > screen resolution
[12:19] <AngryElf> Ditlev, system->prefs->screen resolution
[12:19] <sn00p> doesn't linux alredy come with ntfs support?
[12:19] <Ditlev> woops ^^
[12:19] <AngryElf> sn00p, no
[12:19] <_jason> sn00p: it can read ntfs
[12:19] <ompaul> sn00p, ony read
[12:19] <casper> Does any1 have any idea why my latop screen is black(its not the screen saver)
[12:19] <zzz> Yes,noop,ubuntu did
[12:20] <Ditlev> Hmm.. thats weird, doesn't support anything more than 1024x768 :/
[12:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell Ditlev about fixres
[12:20] <chaumurky> I suppose that's all you need but as you said you can't mount it. catch 22
[12:20] <LazySod> casper, during install or afterwards?
[12:20] <AngryElf> !fixres
[12:20] <ubotu> from memory, fixres is Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:20] <casper> after
[12:20] <Ditlev> thank you :)
[12:20] <dvd-rw> im in love with ubotu  :$
[12:21] <casper> im running my a monitor now, and its only running and 640*480
[12:21] <zzz> What's your video card casper
[12:21] <sn00p> whats a good network status program ?
[12:21] <apokryphos> casper: /msg ubotu resolution
[12:21] <LazySod> casper, i guess the install figured your graphics card is of one type it is not, is it with dapper?
[12:21] <casper> intel something 64,mb
[12:22] <casper> dapper?
[12:22] <Ditlev> ubuntu didn't make me anter a root password at install :/
[12:22] <Ditlev> enter*
[12:22] <apokryphos> Ditlev: /msg ubotu rootsudo
[12:23] <Ditlev> thank you
[12:23] <LazySod> casper dapper=version of ubuntu, 5.10 is breezy and 6.06 is nicknamed dapper
[12:23] <casper> ok then im breezy
[12:24] <LazySod> apokryphos, you could typ "/msg ubotu tell [nick]  about [topic] "
[12:24] <apokryphos> I know :)
[12:24] <apokryphos> LazySod: but that can be problematic. Others in the channel won't know that he's been answered (and what with), unless I mention it in here
[12:25] <Ditlev> select the desired X server driver: nsc or NV ?
[12:25] <gud> can someone help please. im installing my IPW2200 card. im using this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[12:26] <apokryphos> Ditlev: what graphics card have you got there?
[12:26] <Ditlev> Nvidia 5200 fx
[12:26] <axisme> gud, its supposed to work out of the box
[12:26] <Ditlev> geforce
[12:26] <axisme> whats the problem?
[12:26] <gud> at "now your system is clean and it's time to make and install ieee80211, so:" the trouble began
[12:26] <apokryphos> Ditlev: you should've installed the nvidia drivers first
[12:26] <LazySod> en sann gud skulle bara bestmma att den funkade!
[12:27] <Ditlev> well I can do that now i guess.
[12:27] <apokryphos> LazySod: English only in here
[12:27] <gud> axisme: what do you mean
[12:27] <Ditlev> It's pretty tricky, right apokryphos ?
[12:27] <apokryphos> Ditlev: it's very easy, but you'll want to exit the dpkg-reconfigure that you're in now. No way to do that but go through it all and do it again
[12:27] <axisme> when i was using breezy it detected my ipw2200 without me doing anything
[12:28] <Ditlev> what do you mean? I exited the dpkg reconfigure.
[12:28] <apokryphos> Ditlev: with ctrl+c? Well, that might give you problems later, but anyhow...
[12:28] <apokryphos> Ditlev: /msg ubotu nvidia   ...for installing the nvidia driver
[12:29] <casper> lazysod: is there anyway to fix my black screen,not keen for windows!
[12:29] <Speedy2> I just ran the nVidia installer and everything worked as expected.
[12:29] <Ditlev> in what way apokryphos ?
[12:29] <Speedy2> Except for the refresh rate
[12:29] <axisme> if you are asking about getting wpa to work, then yeah...that walk through looks good..Unless breezy has network manager
[12:29] <apokryphos> Ditlev: well, it'll put a lock on dpkg. Nevermind about that though, we'll just remove the lock later
[12:30] <sn00p> where do I find out what other repositorys are there for sources.list?
[12:30] <apokryphos> Ditlev: I have to shoot off now for breakfast, but many others in here can help with x problems/driver installation
[12:30] <Ditlev> Okay thank you for the help :) Have been using suse for about a year, and decided to try ubuntu. Didn't think it would be so different
[12:30] <apokryphos> though really the wiki covers it all or so
[12:30] <gud> but i had to delete ieee80211 and ipw2200 in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include/config/
[12:30] <apokryphos> Ditlev: they're both very good, but very different too :)
[12:31] <casper> does any1 know how to fix my laptop problem!
[12:32] <casper> please
[12:32] <axisme> why?
[12:32] <gud> and when im typing make in /home/gud/ieee80211-1.0.3/ i get this Checking in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/ for ieee80211 components...
[12:32] <gud> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build M=/home/gud/ieee80211-1.0.3 MODVERDIR=/home/gud/ieee80211-1.0.3 modules
[12:32] <gud> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[12:32] <gud> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found
[12:32] <gud> make[1] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[12:32] <gud> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386'
[12:32] <gud>   CC [M]   /home/gud/ieee80211-1.0.3/ieee80211_module.o
[12:33] <gud> /bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found
[12:33] <gud> make[2] : *** [/home/gud/ieee80211-1.0.3/ieee80211_module.o]  Error 127
[12:33] <gud> make[1] : *** [_module_/home/gud/ieee80211-1.0.3]  Error 2
[12:33] <Frogzoo> uhoh...
[12:33] <gud> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386'
[12:33] <axisme> i dont understand why you did all this anyway
[12:33] <axisme> ipw2200 works out of the box
[12:33] <axisme> i can half understand it if you wanted wpa support...but even then..
[12:34] <zzz> casper,can't you boot it?
[12:34] <kittekat> highvoltage, I'm looking for a simple php/mysql photo-blog sw for apache any suggestions?
[12:34] <zzz> can you boot your ubuntu now?
[12:35] <highvoltage> kittekat: wordpress
[12:35] <casper> yes its fine,but i have to use an external monitor
[12:35] <zzz> When will it go black
[12:35] <axisme> btw gud, you need to install gcc
[12:35] <kittekat> highvoltage, it's not really for uploading large amounts of pictures
[12:35] <zzz> which stage>
[12:35] <casper> just as it logs in
[12:35] <highvoltage> kittekat: so isn't wordpress :)
[12:35] <zzz> Did you try init 3
[12:36] <casper> intit 3?
[12:36] <casper> init 3?
[12:36] <highvoltage> why would you want to init 3?
[12:36] <casper> very new to this
[12:36] <highvoltage> init 2 is multi-user non-X mode in Ubuntu
[12:36] <kittekat> highvoltage, I mean wordpress isn't really fit for uploading large amounts of pictures
[12:36] <kittekat> :)
[12:37] <AnAnt> doesn't Ubuntu support cryptoloop ? I get this when I do losetup -E aes256 /dev/loop/0 my_enc_loopfile :
[12:37] <AnAnt> ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument
[12:37] <kittekat> Quite slow, IMHO
[12:37] <zzz> Sorry,highvoltage,just a mistake
[12:37] <zzz> sorry casper
[12:37] <Ditlev> what is Synaptic or Kynaptic?
[12:37] <casper> ok, im back with u
[12:37] <ompaul> zzz, this is debian based only 1 and 2 are useful 0 is off 6 is game over play again :-)
[12:37] <sn00p> does anybody know what repository address I use for sources.lis for flashplugin-nonfree?
[12:38] <_jason> sn00p: multiverse
[12:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell sn00p about multiverse
[12:38] <zzz> Thanks,ompaul.I am a newbie
[12:38] <zzz> :)
[12:38] <ompaul> sn00p, do this apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[12:39] <sn00p> unable to locate package
[12:39] <ompaul> sn00p, so add multiverse
[12:39] <doms> how to log-in in mysql
[12:39] <doms> how to log-in in mysql
[12:40] <doms> sudo mysql -u root ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[12:41] <_jason> doms: why sudo?
[12:41] <doms> whats the correct
[12:41] <sn00p> whats the url for multiverse?
[12:41] <_jason> doms: did you set a password for root?
[12:41] <ompaul> !root
[12:42] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:42] <_jason> sn00p: check your private messages
[12:42] <doms> last time i login root@localhost '1214"
[12:42] <_jason> doms: my mistake, sudo is correct
[12:42] <_jason> doms: your password is 1214?
[12:42] <doms> ye
[12:42] <doms> yes
[12:42] <doms> how to log-in
[12:43] <_jason> doms: sudo mysql -u root -p 12114
[12:43] <_jason> doms: sudo mysql -u root -p 1214
[12:43] <doms> thatnks
[12:43] <doms> coz i previously created a database
[12:43] <doms> thanks
[12:43] <_jason> I hope outside access isn't allowed with that password
[12:44] <sn00p> I get an error after i add multiverse and i do apt-get update
[12:44] <doms> ERROR 1049 (42000): Unknown database '1214'
[12:44] <_jason> sn00p: pastebin the error
[12:44] <sn00p> could not lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[12:44] <doms> _jason ERROR 1049 (42000): Unknown database '1214'
[12:45] <_jason> sn00p: do you have another apt process open like synaptic for example?
[12:45] <doms> _yeah jason your right
[12:45] <doms> thank you
[12:45] <sn00p> haha
[12:45] <sn00p> jason: ya , i was just reading that error msg
[12:45] <sn00p> it gave me
[12:45] <sn00p> lol
[12:46] <_jason> doms: ok my mistake, it should be: mysql -u root -p
[12:46] <sn00p> jason: maybe I should leaern to read first
[12:46] <_jason> then it will ask for password, I don't use mysql much as you can tell :)
[12:46] <_jason> sn00p: yeah, you'll find that really helps :)
[12:47] <Mantice> Hey guys do you think ubuntu would run on a 733 mhz computer ?
[12:47] <tolkan> i'm trying to ping computers by their hostname on my local network, and its not finding anything, things seem to be okay in resolv.conf but im not sure how linux networking works
[12:47] <doms> even my 286 computer ubuntu well run
[12:47] <tolkan> Mantice: Yah you definately could.
[12:47] <doms> even my 286 computer ubuntu well run
[12:47] <Mantice> Really
[12:48] <Mantice> Do you think it will be slow ?
[12:48] <sn00p> jason: i got a subscription to mlb.tv and its flash the flash movies on there webiste plays but when I cl ick to go in and watch a game it doesn't play do you know whats wrong?
[12:48] <Mantice> Ill be using it for firefox and stuff
[12:48] <tolkan> Mantice: the only thing that ma be slow is gnome effects
[12:49] <tolkan> Mantice: how much ram?
[12:49] <_jason> sn00p: does http://badgerbadgerbadger.com/ work?
[12:49] <sn00p> jason: yea
[12:49] <_jason> sn00p: then your site may require flash 8 which macromedia has not released for linux.  Or possibly, it is shockwave, which you can't get on linux
[12:50] <Mantice> 256 mb
[12:52] <Mantice> Heres the link to the computer that will run ubuntu
[12:52] <Mantice> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Complete-systems/auction-54353469.htm
[12:54] <AngryElf> so, all of a sudden i can't ssh between my two boxes and i can't mount my nfs shares.....but i can ping fine.....any ideas?
[12:54] <blakeivey> hello everyone, i am in need of some major help
[12:55] <blakeivey> help
[12:55] <blakeivey> opps
[12:55] <blakeivey> can anyone hear me?
[12:56] <_jason> !justask
[12:56] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[12:57] <KillerKiwi2006> where do i find the config file for sessions? I need to put nm-applet first !
[12:58] <blakeivey> its a long story, but ok: I have been running ubuntu on my 160gb hd for quite some time. I recently bought another hd to install windows on. I havent overwritten any linux partitions, but it seems my bootloader is gone. I cannot load my regular ubuntu, i am currently using the live cd. I am trying to mount my /dev/hda but I get the error saying to check the dmesg which says it can't find a filesystem with that file type (ive tried ext2. ext3. reiserfs)
[01:00] <blakeivey> this is the error:  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda,
[01:00] <blakeivey>        missing codepage or other error
[01:00] <blakeivey>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:00] <blakeivey>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:01] <casper> please i need some help! laptop screen wont display anything,have to plug latop into monitor
[01:01] <_jason> blakeivey: what loads when you boot? windows?
[01:01] <sk8az> can anyone explain how to configure audio and voice on skype?
[01:01] <casper> ubuntu
[01:01] <blakeivey> windows isnt even installed yet, I just get a black screen with a _ that flashes
[01:01] <blakeivey> it just happened suddenly...
[01:02] <cew_15_smp> haloo
[01:02] <cew_15_smp> all
[01:02] <blakeivey> was working fine this morning, windows was complaining about the new hd not being windows xp compatiable partition, etc, then i reboot and ubuntu doesnt load
[01:02] <cew_15_smp> its me from indonesian only
[01:02] <_jason> blakeivey: does it go away if you remove the new hd?
[01:03] <burns> casper: ... try to set the laptop screen in different angles
[01:04] <casper> tried that
[01:04] <burns> or open your notebook case so u can see, if there's a loose conexion
[01:04] <blakeivey> no, I tried that
[01:04] <rem_> !nl
[01:04] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[01:04] <burns> there are (mostly) 2 different cables for u'r screen
[01:04] <kucha> hola
[01:04] <blakeivey> i dont care to recover the complete system...just want to get my music/picturs off and ill just reformat everything
[01:04] <kucha> tengo un problema
[01:04] <casper> now i plugged monitor in and it works but only at 640*480
[01:05] <kucha> al arrancar se me queda en checking battery state
[01:05] <kucha> como puedo hacer para que continue?
[01:05] <burns> casper: perhaps old monitor :)? (btw which monitor is that?)
[01:05] <_jason> !es
[01:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:06] <casper> my laptop is pretty new 2.2 ghz all that jazz...
[01:07] <_jason> blakeivey: can system > administration > disks give you any clues?
[01:07] <casper> i thought the res was 2 high for laptop, soo i plugged in monitor to change it
[01:07] <burns> casper: and the monitor on which u connected?
[01:07] <blakeivey> checking...
[01:07] <Killerdisk> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=54353469
[01:07] <blakeivey> it seems to reconize both of them on there
[01:07] <casper> wen 17""
[01:07] <casper> 17"
[01:08] <Killerdisk> Thats out of my price range :( Some guy put a auto bid in
[01:08] <_jason> blakeivey: what happens when you try to mount it through there?
[01:08] <blakeivey> not any known partitions in partitions tab
[01:08] <blakeivey> there is one under the attempted windows install though... hdb1
[01:08] <blakeivey> did I lose everything??
[01:08] <burns> casper: checked bios options?
[01:09] <_jason> blakeivey: I don't know much about this, could just be your partition table got messed up?
[01:09] <casper> no, what would i be checking
[01:09] <_jason> blakeivey: what did dmesg say?
[01:09] <blakeivey> I dunno anything about hardware ;) more of a network kinda person
[01:09] <burns> also got that problem (fixed it in bios - some options for notebooks only)
[01:09] <burns> there was something for extern monitor
[01:09] <blakeivey> VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hda.
[01:10] <casper> ok gonna have a look
[01:10] <captine> hi all.  how do i change my network settings to use DHCP instead of static?  I havne't got X started yet, and need to d/l drivers at the airport?
[01:10] <casper> thanx
[01:10] <burns> gl
[01:10] <blakeivey> tried different FSs and just subsitute FS in there
[01:10] <_jason> blakeivey: hmm, I would try again in a bit.  Someone with a bit more knowledge might know how to recover your data
[01:10] <Imperio59> Hey, i'm trying to get my iptables to log to /var/log/iptables... here's what i have so far: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12970
[01:11] <Imperio59> It doesn't seem to be logging anything atm..
[01:11] <blakeivey> alrighty, thanks
[01:11] <vladuz976> how do i add my user to another group ?
[01:12] <_jason> vladuz976: adduser user_name group_name
[01:12] <vladuz976> _jason: no, that asks for a new username
[01:13] <_jason> vladuz976: huh?
[01:13] <sk8az> !skype
[01:13] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[01:13] <vladuz976> _jason: yeah it says that the user already exists and i should enter a new one
[01:13] <_jason> vladuz976: how did you type your command?
[01:14] <Imperio59> !iptables
[01:14] <vladuz976> sudo adduser vladuz office
[01:15] <_jason> vladuz976: is office an existing group?
[01:16] <vladuz976> _jason: yes
[01:17] <casper> burns u are a genius!
[01:17] <burns> lol
[01:17] <_jason> vladuz976: grep ^office /etc/group
[01:17] <casper> ok there is another problem now
[01:17] <casper> i can only run at 640*480
[01:17] <_jason> !fixres
[01:17] <ubotu> fixres is, like, totally, Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:17] <casper> its the only resolution it allows me
[01:18] <burns> are there the right drivers for monitor/grafik card?
[01:18] <burns> *graphics
[01:19] <casper> i doubt it havent installed anything
[01:19] <casper> where do i get drivers for ubuntu
[01:19] <burns> depends on u'r graphics card ...
[01:19] <casper> breezy must get used to this new lingo
[01:20] <casper> intel chipset 64mb
[01:20] <burns> u can also run the .inf driver for windows
[01:25] <Imperio59> !samba
[01:25] <ubotu> I guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[01:27] <EnsilZah> Hi, could someone help me with a question?
[01:28] <ditlev> Hi, I'm trying to install nvidia driver, and I'm using this guide: "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368" I reached to the step where you press ctl+alt+f1 and sh the nvidia driver file, but it says that I'm still running X..
[01:29] <burns> EnsilZah: ...
[01:30] <EnsilZah> I'm installing windows and i was wondering if there's anything i need to do with the partitions to be able to install ubuntu later?
[01:30] <axisme> not really
[01:30] <burns> one hdd?
[01:31] <axisme> ubuntu can resize..but it never hurts to have two seperate partitions
[01:31] <EnsilZah> Four actually, i was just wondering if i need a FAT partition or something.
[01:31] <axisme> and if you wanna write to the other drive/partiton within ubuntu.....format windows as fat32
[01:31] <fr00d> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an Acer Extensa 4100. The Problem is that no network interface can get an IP by a DHCP-Server. This Broadcom card uses the tg3 modul.
[01:31] <fr00d> Is there any other module to use this card?
[01:31] <axisme> as ubuntu cant safely write to ntfs
[01:33] <eMBee> good afternoon
[01:34] <EnsilZah> I don't need the first partition to be fat though?   because i had to have one when i tried mandrake a while back.
[01:34] <doms> could not connect to video device /dev/video pls. check the connection "imy camera is creative webcam"
[01:34] <GnarusLeo> Is it possible to run iTunes+iPod under a vmware sollution with winxp? In that case, how?
[01:35] <GnarusLeo> cuz hounestly :) This gtkpod thingy really aint that much :P
[01:36] <MistaED> gnarusleo: having the same drama atm, just bought an ipod
[01:37] <MistaED> the latest 1.4beta3 of amarok is working for me
[01:37] <ditlev> setting up xserver with this guide: "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto"
[01:37] <ditlev> it asks me if I want to use nsc or nv.. I have nvidia graphics
[01:38] <ditlev> which one to should I choose?
[01:38] <heyjoe2> !bittornado
[01:38] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, heyjoe2
[01:39] <_jim_> hi everyone
[01:39] <ditlev> hey :)
[01:39] <_jim_> i finally fixed my problem :)
[01:39] <ditlev> _jim_, You know how to configure X?
[01:40] <_jim_> with locales
[01:40] <heyjoe2> could anyone help me with getting bittornado downloads to go faster
[01:40] <_jim_> ditlev, sorry no .... :(
[01:40] <_jason> _jim_: how?
[01:40] <ditlev> Can anyone help me configuring X ?
[01:40] <_jim_> heyjoe2, u opened/forwarded the ports that used ?
[01:41] <Imperio59> Could anyone hep me with my samba config? Trying to get [homes]  to work.  I have it set up correctly, I added my user "ubuntu" with pass "ubuntu" with smbpasswd but i can't connect to /homes from windows
[01:41] <_jason> ditlev: what is giving you trouble?
[01:41] <_jim_> _jason, i finally found an answer at forum
[01:41] <_jason> _jim_: do you still have the link handy? I'd like to read it
[01:41] <Imperio59> Even if i try "connect a network drive" and set the correct username/password, it won't let me log on...
[01:41] <Imperio59> any ideas?
[01:41] <_jim_> _jason, yeah sure
[01:41] <ditlev> _jason, basically the whole thing ^^
[01:41] <ditlev> trying to configure it to get a proper resolution
[01:41] <_jason> ditlev: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:42] <_jason> with sudo in front of that
[01:42] <_jim_> _jason, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159424&highlight=fix+locales
[01:42] <ditlev> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[01:42] <_jason> _jim_: thanks
[01:42] <_jim_> _jason, np :)
[01:42] <Imperio59> no one good with samba? :/
[01:42] <heyjoe2> _jim_: im not sure what u mean, ive just startd using bittornado
[01:43] <heyjoe2> _jim_: ive got it dloading at around 8kbs, bit slow for adsl
[01:43] <_jim_> heyjoe2, i think you must allow some ports.....
[01:43] <Boglizk> portforwarding.com
[01:43] <_jim_> heyjoe2, see in your settings what ports are used to download and upload and open them at ur router settings and/or firewall
[01:43] <heyjoe2> _jim_: the port range i have is 10000 to 60000
[01:44] <ditlev> _jason, debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[01:44] <_jim_> heyjoe2, the port range at router or app
[01:44] <GnarusLeo> MistaED, yeah, Ive googled it and sollutions are on the way, what do you use now?
[01:44] <hyphenated> heyjoe2: is the little light yellow or green?
[01:44] <_jason> ditlev: what else are you running?
[01:44] <heyjoe2> _jim_: how do i open my router. 10000 to 60000 is the port range in bittornado
[01:44] <GnarusLeo> MistaED, does amaroK work with pictures and a little more iPod friendly now? :)
[01:45] <heyjoe2> hyphenated: it is yellow
[01:45] <hyphenated> heyjoe2: www.portforward.com
[01:45] <Boglizk> http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
[01:45] <Boglizk> arg
[01:45] <Boglizk> :p
[01:45] <ditlev> ubuntu configuration thing, for the X server. Can I terminate it without anyproblems _jason ?
[01:45] <hyphenated> Boglizk: great minds think alike
[01:45] <_jason> ditlev: what exactly is that?
[01:45] <_jim_> heyjoe2, try what hyphenated said :)
[01:45] <heyjoe2> boglizk: what is the portforward sight
[01:45] <heyjoe2> site even
[01:45] <_jim_> anyone know how i can install the default windows fonts ?
[01:45] <ditlev> _jason, okay got it working now. So it asks me if I want to autodetect hardware
[01:46] <hyphenated> _jim_: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts ?
[01:46] <_jason> ditlev: k
[01:46] <MistaED> gnarusleo: it looks the same but the auto-detection of the ipod (with it mounted at /media/ipod) was much better and you can pick if the device is generic, apple/ipod or an iriver
[01:46] <MistaED> however pictures and album artworks haven't been placed on there afaik
[01:46] <heyjoe2> _jim_: i know what brand of modem i have, but im not sure the model, any way i can check in terminal?
[01:46] <ditlev> _jason, I'm not 100% sure that my nvidia card is correctly installed
[01:46] <_jim_> hyphenated, E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[01:46] <_jim_>   :(
[01:46] <ditlev> card=driver
[01:47] <_jason> ditlev: did you follow the wiki?
[01:47] <hyphenated> _jim_: it's in multiverse
[01:47] <_jim_> heyjoe2, well i dont know... but if you know the brand i think its easy if you check the website that hyphenated gave you
[01:47] <ditlev> _jason, brb
[01:47] <_jim_> hyphenated, i see... do u know the repos of multiverse ?
[01:47] <GnarusLeo> MistaED, ok, sounds like theyr still developing it, and thats good news :)
[01:48] <hyphenated> _jim_: yeah, they're probably already in your sources.list and just need uncommenting to enable them
[01:48] <blake_ubuntu> anyone awake?
[01:49] <_jason> _jim_, hyphenated: multiverse has to be added manually to the default sources.list
[01:49] <luc_> HALLO
[01:49] <iff> Hi,has anybody had their xfce menu font size shrink after logging in after a ctrl-alt-bkspace?
[01:49] <blake_ubuntu> no idea, i use gnome
[01:50] <MistaED> gnarusleo: album art covers appear for my ipod video from amarok! :D
[01:50] <blake_ubuntu> maybe try saving settings before loging out
[01:50] <luc_> WHO ARE YOU
[01:50] <hyphenated> _jason: yeah, I got it mixed up with 'universe'
[01:50] <heyjoe2> hyphenated: UPNP Port Forwarding is not on my version of bittornado
[01:50] <luc_> ZEMEL
[01:50] <_jason> !caps
[01:50] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[01:50] <luc_> C TOUT
[01:50] <tritium> luc_: please stop
[01:50] <GnarusLeo> MistaED, oh great!!! Wich amarok are you using again?
[01:50] <blake_ubuntu> luc_, that means stop
[01:50] <hyphenated> heyjoe2: UPnP port forwarding for bittornado only works in windows
[01:50] <_jim_> anyone knows whats the address for multiverse repositary ?
[01:51] <GnarusLeo> MistaED, I have 1.3.8
[01:51] <luc_> I DONT KNOW WHO YOU ARE
[01:51] <luc_> ?
[01:51] <heyjoe2> hyphenated: what do u do in linux, did i pick the wrong option in the port forward site?
[01:51] <_jim_> oh god
[01:51] <blake_ubuntu> any one have a view about dapper being on a dual 1.8g5 with a gig of ram.....
[01:51] <_jason> _jim_: add `` multiverse'' to the end of all the lines that start with ``deb'' and have ``universe'' but not ``multiverse'' in them
[01:51] <tritium> luc_: last warning
[01:51] <Boglizk> looks like luc_ forgot the "Dumb Lock" as well
[01:51] <iff> its happened on another machine again, the point size is still the same e.g sans 9, but I have not touched any config files or changed resolution or dpi, this is on a fresh install
[01:51] <hyphenated> heyjoe2: probably. but it won't matter. it's not what you want to change
[01:51] <tritium> be nice, Boglizk
[01:51] <Boglizk> ..
[01:51] <Boglizk> sorry
[01:51] <MistaED> gnarusleo: go onto kubuntu.org and add the repo for amarok 1.4beta3
[01:51] <luc_> HE ALEX
[01:52] <blake_ubuntu> is there another channel where people dont talk randomly about pointless crap?
[01:52] <ditlev> _jason I'm back
[01:52] <heyjoe2> hyphenated: on both of the options for my modem it says i have to change the UPnP port forwarding
[01:52] <shrewduser> ubuntu+1 ?
[01:52] <heyjoe2> hyphenated: what does a linux user do
[01:53] <hyphenated> heyjoe2: regular port forwarding
[01:53] <MistaED> gnarusleo: are you using dapper though? i think it needs it
[01:53] <blake_ubuntu> like that, that has to be the dumbest queston
[01:53] <ditlev> _jason, what was the command to the xorg config ?
[01:53] <GnarusLeo> nah, breezy
[01:53] <_jim_> _jason, thx
[01:53] <_jason> ditlev: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:53] <adubois> your
[01:53] <heyjoe2> hyphenated: so i follow all the steps except ignore theUPnP part
[01:53] <tritium> !tell blake_ubuntu about conduct
[01:54] <hyphenated> heyjoe2: possibly. I don't know what modem you have or what page you're reading
[01:54] <adubois> killer
[01:54] <blake_ubuntu> cares
[01:54] <iff> anybody using xfce that has had their fonts change like this?
[01:54] <adubois> thx
[01:54] <heyjoe2> hyphenated: oh ok...
[01:54] <adubois> joe 2
[01:55] <adubois> yes
[01:55] <adubois> frank
[01:55] <GnarusLeo> MistaED, installing
[01:55] <adubois> frank
[01:55] <doms> could not connect to video device /dev/video pls. check the connection "imy camera is creative webcam"
[01:55] <waylandbill> If I added a 540mb drive to this older machine to serve as a swap drive, all I have to do is cfdisk it to a swap type partition and modify my fstab to use it?
[01:56] <adubois> now
[01:56] <Imperio59> !ldap
[01:56] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Imperio59
[01:56] <adubois> qqqqqqqq
[01:57] <slackern> waylandbill: You need to create a swap filesystem on it too
[01:57] <slackern> waylandbill: mkswap /dev/newswap
[01:58] <waylandbill> slackern, do I reboot after that to use the new swap immediately?
[01:58] <n00bie> hallo .. can anyone help me with my NTFS partitions ?
[01:58] <_jason> n00bie: what is wrong with it?
[01:59] <n00bie> well i can't seem to find them in the live CD
[01:59] <n00bie> :)
[01:59] <slackern> i think you can first use cfdisk to make the partition, then you can make the filesystem with mkswap and then do swapon /dev/yournewswap
[01:59] <doms> could not connect to video device /dev/video pls. check the connection "imy camera is creative webcam"
[01:59] <_jim_> !mount
[01:59] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:59] <_jason> n00bie: do they show up in system > administration > disks
[01:59] <casper> how do i install grpahics drivers, using ubuntu 5.10
[01:59] <Scarborough> where can I find a guide on how du update to dapper?
[01:59] <n00bie> let me see
[01:59] <_jason> !upgrade
[01:59] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[01:59] <Scarborough> thx
[01:59] <doms> what is pastbin site
[01:59] <slackern> !pastebin
[01:59] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:59] <_jason> doms: /topic
[02:00] <n00bie> yes they are
[02:00] <ifvoid> hi guys
[02:00] <_jason> n00bie: you can mount them there, though then I am not familiar with an easy way of changing permissions through gui (would have to edit fstab)
[02:00] <ifvoid> how do I reopen a bug in malone?
[02:01] <n00bie> should i press the "ENABLE" button on "partitions" tab ? from there ?
[02:01] <_jason> n00bie: yeah
[02:01] <n00bie> 10x
[02:01] <_jason> you may be back soon because they get owned by root though
[02:01] <casper> how do i update my graphics drivers?ive got the tar.gz file on my desktop
[02:02] <n00bie> _jason,  it does not seem to work .. what to do next ?
[02:02] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12971  pls. check my webcam installation why i cant open it
[02:02] <_harm> casper graphic drivers is a bitch
[02:02] <_jason> n00bie: what do you mean by ``does not seem to work'' ?  what happens?
[02:02] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12971  pls. check my webcam installation why i cant open it
[02:02] <n00bie> well if pressed the enable button but it does not enable it sefl
[02:03] <n00bie> i can;t browse it !
[02:03] <_jason> n00bie: does the disks manager say it is enabled?
[02:03] <casper> ok, but im only running at 640*480, everything is HUGE i need to fix it
[02:03] <casper> its the only res it allowys me to run
[02:04] <n00bie> the enable buton is visivle and the status is innacesible
[02:04] <n00bie> *visible
[02:04] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12971  pls. check my webcam installation why i cant open it
[02:05] <_jason> n00bie: ok, what is the device name? /dev/hda[what?] 
[02:05] <casper> any1 got any ideas of my graphics problem?
[02:06] <n00bie> dev/hdb1
[02:07] <_jason> n00bie: ok open accessories > terminal
[02:07] <n00bie> don ethat
[02:07] <_jason> n00bie: sudo mkdir /media/windows
[02:08] <n00bie> next ?
[02:08] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12971  pls. check my webcam installation why i cant open it
[02:09] <_jason> n00bie: sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,user,umask=0222 /dev/hdb1 /media/windows
[02:09] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12971  pls. check my webcam installation why i cant open it
[02:09] <_jason> hmm guess that's redundant, but ok
[02:10] <casper> any1 got any ideas y i can only run my screen res at 640*480?
[02:11] <n00bie> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[02:11] <n00bie>        missing codepage or other error
[02:11] <n00bie>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:11] <n00bie>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:11] <_jason> n00bie: umm is /dev/hdb1 a ntfs partition?
[02:11] <n00bie> yes
[02:12] <_jason> n00bie: ok try sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hdb1 /media/windows
[02:12] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12971  pls. check my webcam installation why i cant open it
[02:12] <_jim_> hey guys i installed a game through synaptic , how i  can now add it on the Games menu ?
[02:13] <n00bie> nothing replyed
[02:13] <_jason> n00bie: check /media/windows now
[02:13] <casper> some1 must know how to fix my problem!
[02:13] <casper> i hate beeing a noob
[02:13] <_jim_> lol me too
[02:13] <casper> im soo useless
[02:13] <captine> casper, i feel the same way :)
[02:14] <Hoxzer> CAsper: well, I have to agreed with u
[02:14] <_jim_> hehe... many
[02:14] <Hoxzer> Like honestly how can I ge tthat  girl
[02:14] <Hoxzer> she is just so perfect
[02:14] <n00bie> oh .. yeah .. it works .. thaks a lot .. and i repeat this stept for my other disk drive with 2 partitions NTFS ?
[02:14] <casper> all i want to do is change a screen res
[02:14] <Hoxzer> I dont understand
[02:14] <_jim_> casper
[02:14] <Hoxzer>      I fucking go mad everytime I see her
[02:14] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12971  pls. check my webcam installation why i cant open it
[02:14] <Hoxzer> I just frreez
[02:14] <rem_> Hey, I have a laptop with just a floppy drive and wifi and I want to install ubuntu on it, so I took out the harddrive plugged it in a ATX case with an adaptor, installed Ubuntu and i put it back in the laptop, but I get the error: "Alert! /dev/hdc3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell" I guess it doesnt see the harddrive at the same place as on the ATX box. How can I see where it sees it and how can I change it (in grub if i plug it in the A
[02:14] <rem_> TX box agin..?)
[02:14] <Hoxzer> I'm like "omg .... she is sooo goood -> froze"
[02:15] <_jason> n00bie: should work
[02:15] <plantperson> why can't I connect to FTP?
[02:15] <_jim_> casper  System/Preferences/Screen Resolution
[02:15] <captine> casper, all i want to do is install ati drivers, without an internet connection
[02:15] <n00bie> 10x
[02:15] <Hoxzer> and I think "I HAVE TO GET THAT GIRL LIKE WTF"
[02:15] <alynx_> _jim: you could right click your games menu and add a new element to it.
[02:15] <_jason> n00bie: if you weren't on the livecd, I'd tell you about fstab, but no point on the live
[02:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell n00bie about ntfs
[02:15] <Hoxzer> But I'm so unsocial luser so I can't talk to her
[02:15] <Hoxzer> I have nonthing to talk about
[02:15] <plantperson> I'm entering my FTP password again and again but it doesn't work!
[02:15] <_jim_> alynx_ how ?
[02:15] <_jason> n00bie: that's some more info if you want to read it over
[02:15] <rem_> ...anyone .?
[02:15] <Hoxzer> I just dont feel like I exist
[02:15] <plantperson> I just keeps asking.
[02:15] <Hoxzer> Irl
[02:15] <casper> been there jim,it only gives me 1 option and thats 640*480
[02:16] <_jason> !offtopic
[02:16] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:16] <Hoxzer> Plantperson: what do u think?
[02:16] <plantperson> I don't know!
[02:16] <Hoxzer> :(
[02:16] <Hoxzer> well, I think I just should go and talk to her
[02:16] <Hoxzer> but I have nonthing to talk about
[02:16] <plantperson> I know it's the right password, but it just keeps prompting for it again and again
[02:16] <_jim_> what ?
[02:16] <rem_> Hey, I have a laptop with just a floppy drive and wifi and I want to install ubuntu on it, so I took out the harddrive plugged it in a ATX case with an adaptor, installed Ubuntu and i put it back in the laptop, but I get the error: "Alert! /dev/hdc3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell" I guess it doesnt see the harddrive at the same place as on the ATX box. How can I see where it sees it and how can I change it (in grub if i plug it in the A
[02:16] <rem_> TX box agin..?)
[02:16] <Hoxzer> usually I dont speak with peapol just because  there is nonthing to talk about
[02:16] <osfameron> Hoxzer: ubotu wants you to talk about nothing in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:17] <burns> hiho casper :)
[02:17] <Hoxzer> My knowledge is so diffrend compared to others
[02:17] <casper> burns u legend
[02:17] <casper> i need ur help again!
[02:17] <casper> one day ill be a machine like burns then ill help all the noobs around
[02:17] <burns> i need a break from work (back in a few minutes)
[02:17] <plantperson> but why won't it accept my FTP password?
[02:17] <der0b> Just checking to see if there's a quick answer here...  I attempted to install a pci video card and founds that breezy and dapper both hang when loading the hotplug system during boot..  is this something somebody has seen before?
[02:17] <burns> im also newbie :)
[02:18] <_jim_> i have to go now... bye everyone cya later
[02:18] <plantperson> I've connected to this server lots of times on windows
[02:18] <alynx_> _jim: not sure if you use gnome , but in kde you can right click the games menu and edit it. Then you can add / remove elements to it.
[02:18] <_jim_> alynx_  i use gnome..
[02:18] <casper> ok, soo who knows how to fix my resolution problem?
[02:19] <_jim_> anyways ill talk to y later :) bye
[02:19] <casper> 640*480 is driving me mad
[02:19] <jita> how do i install linux-686? i am new
[02:19] <facerape> im thinking about installing linux and have been told this is a user friendly version
[02:19] <facerape> anyone know what the minimum operating specs of the os are?
[02:20] <facerape> i need to be able to run mplayer on to play back .avi files
[02:20] <facerape> both divx and xvid to a composite video out put
[02:21] <Chousuke> I wonder about the composite video out.
[02:21] <facerape> nvidia do a driver for linux which is compatible with my card
[02:21] <facerape> so thats not a problem
[02:21] <Chousuke> I suppose it should work.,
[02:21] <facerape> its a 16meg geforce 4
[02:21] <Chousuke> quite an old card, though. :D
[02:21] <facerape> i only have a 1ghz amd with 256 ram
[02:21] <facerape> yeah i know
[02:22] <Chousuke> That should be able to play video.
[02:22] <Chousuke> divx and xvid at least
[02:22] <facerape> im building a media b0x out of an old computer
[02:22] <facerape> stuck in a 160gig hdd
[02:22] <facerape> but it wont network with my other pcs as they all run xp and its on 98
[02:22] <facerape> and cant run any better windows
[02:23] <pear-i> hey would anyone know how i might configure my /etc/network/interfaces to connect a wifi card to a wireless router? i've tried the wiki and such but nothing seems to work
[02:23] <Bergcube> How can a user send a message from the console to another user on the same machine?
[02:23] <facerape> and samba should let me interface with my other b0x's
[02:24] <facerape> but i need to know if the ubuntu OS will run on a b0x that old
[02:24] <Killerdisk> how old
[02:24] <atilla> hi
[02:24] <pear-i> i have a 900 mhz w/ 512 mb of ran and it runs pretty spiffy out of the box
[02:24] <pear-i> ram *
[02:24] <Killerdisk> Can wifi cards connect to another wifi card
[02:24] <facerape> k im only on 256 and its sd ram
[02:25] <pear-i> what video card do you have?
[02:25] <ernix> ubuntu-tan huh huh......
[02:25] <facerape> geforce 4 16meg
[02:25] <Hoxzer> Ubuntu is g000d
[02:25] <waylandbill> Killerdisk, I thought they needed an access point.
[02:25] <guest> 000000000000000000000000
[02:25] <pear-i> oh video card might drain it down
[02:25] <guest> 0
[02:25] <Hoxzer> 0
[02:25] <facerape> killer disk, wifi cards need a router to connect to each other
[02:25] <pear-i> cpu/ram wise you should have enough i think
[02:25] <guest> adffffffkh
[02:25] <facerape> cool
[02:26] <pear-i> wifi cards should be able to adhoc and connect to other wifi cards right?
[02:26] <facerape> i guess its time to start formating then :-)
[02:26] <facerape> by by windows
[02:26] <pear-i> try the live cd
[02:26] <facerape> ?
[02:26] <pear-i> for speed and stuff -- else xubuntu might be less video card draining?
[02:27] <facerape> ok i dont understand that sentance at all
[02:27] <pear-i> lol sorry
[02:27] <pear-i> try using the live cd to see if it'll run fast enough
[02:27] <facerape> ill give it a shot and see what happens
[02:27] <facerape> ok
[02:27] <pear-i> kwlz
[02:27] <facerape> link to live cd is on the official site i guess
[02:28] <steve343> ello
[02:28] <pear-i> hey would anyone know how i might configure my /etc/network/interfaces to connect a wifi card to a wireless router? i've tried the wiki and such but nothing seems to work
[02:28] <vinboy> is reiserfs causing any problem?
[02:29] <vinboy> is it better than ext3?
[02:29] <steve343> wow its like software modems all over agian
[02:29] <facerape> does ubuntu come with samba as standard?
[02:29] <pear-i> reiserfs is suppose to be faster
[02:29] <pear-i> samba i think you have to apt-get the packages *
[02:29] <facerape> k
[02:29] <facerape> thanks for the help
[02:30] <Sir_Fawnpug> Man, I've written too much C for one night.
[02:30] <steve343> why does ubuntu need so much harddrive space?
[02:30] <Sir_Fawnpug> Steve, I guess because it's pretty feature-complete.
[02:30] <pear-i> anyone have any ideas for wifi card -and connecting to a router ?
[02:30] <steve343> but 70 gig
[02:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> 70 gig? Did you install every package?
[02:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> Haha
[02:31] <pear-i> 70? what do you have installed?
[02:31] <noonex> it does not require 70g
[02:31] <steve343> pear-i im guessing if theres no linux driver theres no hope
[02:31] <pear-i> it has a driver
[02:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> Well there's NDIS-wrapper
[02:31] <pear-i> its just not connecting to the access point
[02:31] <pear-i> its natively supported
[02:31] <facerape> you have wireless router?
[02:31] <steve343> i was trying to install the standard and it was saying it needed something like 70 gig min
[02:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> pear-i, I wish I could help you with that; wireless is one of the things I haven't figured out yet.
[02:32] <pear-i> i had it working in hoary, after some hacking the network/interfaces
[02:32] <steve343> ive only got 10 to spare isnt that enough?
[02:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> steve343, no way; My ubuntu install only takes like 2gig on my laptop.
[02:32] <facerape> you sure it wasnt 70meg?
[02:32] <pear-i> and it works in simple dhcp -- w/o wep keys
[02:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> And it's got more than a few packages installed.
[02:32] <steve343> weird
[02:33] <steve343> well when i typed 10 gig it said it wasnt enough
[02:33] <facerape> odd
[02:33] <Sir_Fawnpug> If I wanted to I could get rid of gnome and spare about ~300MB
[02:33] <Sir_Fawnpug> OR however big it is.
[02:33] <facerape> is it working in bits not bytes
[02:33] <steve343> could a scratched cd mess up the installation maybe
[02:33] <pear-i> are you sure its 70 gb ?
[02:33] <steve343> not compleatly now
[02:33] <Sir_Fawnpug> Well 70Gb is still about 9GB
[02:34] <pear-i> System > admin > disks ?
[02:34] <eddie_stone> I wanna some games
[02:34] <facerape> i mean how do you get 70gb onto a cd
[02:34] <steve343> stupid lil b that makes more sence
[02:34] <Sir_Fawnpug> eddie_stone, what kind of games?
[02:34] <facerape> even with massive compression its still loads
[02:34] <pear-i> lol 2 blueray disks sounds about right ;)
[02:34] <Sir_Fawnpug> There was a nice RTS out there but I forget what it's called.
[02:34] <facerape> yeah but who has them
[02:34] <XiXaQ> hello everyone. I'm thinking about moving to Ubuntu 5.10. I have a few questions: does Ubuntu 5.10 support NTFS partitions? Is it easily configured to use PPPoE ADSL connection? Multimedia Codecs like mp3?
[02:34] <eddie_stone> Sir_Fawnpug: every one, but native
[02:34] <facerape> i wish i had blu ray
[02:35] <muep> XiXaQ: ntfs read and mp3 support are there
[02:35] <axisme> xixaq, what adsl modem?
[02:35] <steve343> what about wifi? is it the same shambles as the software modems
[02:35] <muep> XiXaQ: I think pppoe is also available but don't know about it
[02:35] <pear-i> lol buy a ps3 :p they're suppose to be cheaper than just getting a reader -- and they say you can linux them *
[02:35] <XiXaQ> axisme, speedway I think. Does that matter? It's configured correctly, but I cannot custom configure it.
[02:36] <eddie_stone> XiXaQ: and yes, pppoe its easily configured
[02:36] <eddie_stone> pppoeconfig
[02:36] <Sir_Fawnpug> STeve343, depends on the chipset.
[02:36] <steve343> usb?
[02:36] <Sir_Fawnpug> I have a broadcom 8445 in my machine and I have to use NDISwrapper
[02:36] <XiXaQ> eddie_stone, is that available in menu/control panel, or only textbased?
[02:36] <eddie_stone> textbased
[02:36] <axisme> no not really..when i used pppoe i used an alcatel speedtouch usb. You needed a mgmt.o from their website for it to work on ubuntu
[02:37] <pear-i> so any ideas for /etc/network/interfaces ? (working wifi card/drivers can't connect to wep enabled router)
[02:37] <eddie_stone> but there is a text based graphic interface
[02:38] <steve343> hmmmm
[02:38] <muep> XiXaQ: you use arrows and space/enter... using menus
[02:38] <steve343> i'm starting to realise why everyone hates ms
[02:38] <steve343> i'm having problems duplicating my own work cos of xp
[02:39] <muep> XiXaQ: the menus are only drawn in text
[02:39] <steve343> but ubuntu is'nt looking like an easy answer
[02:39] <muep> steve343: it depends a lot on one's needs
[02:40] <pear-i> steve what system are you using ?
[02:40] <pear-i> cause desktops and things -- should be pretty good right out of the box, other than i guess wireless if you have that, software modems/printers
[02:40] <shotpoint> ANYONE USE SHAREAZA
[02:41] <delliott> OH I DONT KNOW
[02:41] <HymnToLife> !caps
[02:41] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[02:42] <Rondom> shotpoint: I do
[02:42] <wgandhi> how do i remove the xscreensaver at startup?
[02:43] <doms> how do i see the list of data which i entried in my mysql
[02:43] <XiXaQ> muep, I'm talking about Gnome. Is there PPPoE utilities for X available in G-Menu?
[02:43] <doms> how do i see the list of data which i entried in my mysql
[02:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell doms about repeat
[02:43] <XiXaQ> doms, SELECT * FROM tableName; ?
[02:43] <muep> XiXaQ: I don't think so, but I'm not sure. what's wrong with a test based one?
[02:43] <_jason> doms: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/index.html
[02:43] <doms> i mean in gui mysql administrator
[02:43] <muep> *text based I meam
[02:44] <XiXaQ> muep, nothing really. It's just that I don't want to have a foreign system without an internet connection.
[02:44] <steve343> right im gonna give the install another go
[02:44] <steve343> you sure its Gb not GB cos i dont wanna wipe my hd
[02:44] <muep> XiXaQ: I think you should try a livecd
[02:44] <doms> i mean in gui mysql administrator
[02:45] <sk8az> i want to edit /etc/apt/sources.list , how do i edit it, since i cannot edit priviliges, and i don't know how to access it by console
[02:46] <pear-i> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:47] <lcore> sk8az: [alt] +[f2]  and "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:47] <eddie_stone> does anyone knows any free ide for php ?
[02:48] <Killerdisk> ide cables lol
[02:48] <pear-i> anyone know the proper repos for dapper?
[02:49] <muep> pear-i: same servers as for breezy
[02:49] <_jason> pear-i: are you on dapper now or upgrading?
[02:49] <pear-i> dapper
[02:49] <eddie_stone> dapper sucks yet
[02:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell pear-i about sources
[02:49] <pear-i> fresh install *
[02:49] <muep> pear-i: only change every 'breezy' to 'dapper'
[02:49] <muep> oh
[02:49] <momozone> can anyone help me with a pear problem
[02:49] <_jason> pear-i: try to use #ubuntu+1 in the future for question about dapper
[02:50] <pear-i> ah okies thanks
[02:50] <eddie_stone> _jason: good work
[02:50] <momozone> [FATAL]  PEAR must be installed (requires DB.php)
[02:50] <momozone> however pear is installed I just can not locate DB.php
[02:51] <sk8az> how to save edited files in gnu nano editor?
[02:51] <_jason> sk8az: the bottom gives you a list of commands you want ctrl-o
[02:52] <Killerdisk> !dapper
[02:52] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[02:52] <eddie_stone> is nano better than gedit?
[02:52] <momozone> Anyone??? Some Pear Help???
[02:53] <eddie_stone> eat it
[02:53] <_jason> momozone: maybe #pear
[02:53] <eddie_stone> smart guy
[02:53] <momozone> getting the following error  [FATAL]  PEAR must be installed (requires DB.php)
[02:53] <momozone> however pear is installed
[02:56] <XiXaQ> muep, does it have everything the install cd has?
[02:57] <muep> XiXaQ: most of it at least
[02:57] <muep> it is a fully working system at least
[02:57] <muep> though a bit slow
[02:57] <AgreSor> hi :)
[02:57] <Phex> hello
[02:58] <muep> but you don't need to take any risks with it
[02:58] <Phex> anyone know, which programm can open *.jar files?
[02:58] <Rondom> ark
[02:59] <Rondom> phex either java or ark
[02:59] <Phex> ok is this normally installed on ubuntu?
[02:59] <_jason> Phex: some jar files are just zips... depends
[02:59] <Rondom> Phex: if you wwant to run the jar, type jave file.jar, if you want to unpack it, use ark
[02:59] <AgreSor> how to set some script on ssh login.. that user cant go to commands.. i want to they have some menu.. for example: they can chose irssi, or msn, or go to shell commands
[02:59] <AgreSor> can i make that?
[02:59] <Rondom> Phex: do you want to run the jar or unpack it?
[03:00] <Phex> run it
[03:00] <Phex> not unpack
[03:00] <Rondom> !java
[03:00] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:01] <Phex> ok
[03:01] <Phex> so i've to download ot
[03:01] <Phex> it
[03:02] <zzz_> AgreSor: If i understand well what You need, then the easiest way is to write a shell script, which prints the menu onto the screen, read in a number, and starts the program (by the number).
[03:02] <AgreSor> yeah
[03:02] <AgreSor> zzz_ that`s what i want
[03:02] <AgreSor> :)
[03:02] <ccooke_> AgreSor: you could shell-script it, or you could try a restricted shell
[03:03] <mrmist> Hi all
[03:03] <mrmist> do anyone know what "xfree86-dga" is ?
[03:03] <ccooke_> (restricted shells stop them from being able to, say, change directory or the path etc)
[03:03] <doms> wheres actually the location of my created table in mysql so i can populate it
[03:03] <AgreSor> ccc_ : i dont have idea how to shell-script
[03:03] <Phex> i'Ve a hdd that is not in the computer, the hdd goes over usb how is the direction?
[03:03] <vinboy> wat is the reiserfs tat comes with ubuntu?
[03:04] <vinboy> wat is the version?
[03:04] <Frogzoo> !info reiserfs
[03:04] <doms> wheres actually the location of my created table in mysql so i can populate it
[03:04] <mrmist> Anyone ? Should I enable xfree86-dga ?
[03:04] <mrmist> I'm using the fglrx-drivers for ATI
[03:04] <zzz> .
[03:05] <doms> wheres actually the location of my created table in mysql so i can populate it
[03:05] <XiXaQ> muep, oh, I meant the other way around. Is everything on the live-cd on the install cd?
[03:05] <vinboy> wat is the reiserfs version tat comes with ubuntu?
[03:05] <muep> XiXaQ: yes it is
[03:06] <muep> XiXaQ: I am not sure if gparted is installed in standard install but I believe it is on the disk
[03:06] <fuci> where can i find the file that has the bootloader for grub
[03:06] <void^> vinboy: it's not reiser4.
[03:06] <Frogzoo> !info libreiserfs
[03:06] <fuci> i mean the file where you can edit the startup options (Ubuntu, Windows etc)
[03:06] <vinboy> thx void^
[03:06] <muep> fuci: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:06] <_jason> fuci: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:06] <fuci> thx
[03:06] <muep> np
[03:07] <doms> where is the location of my pet table name, were i cant find it in my filesystem mysql
[03:07] <doms> thats a text file
[03:07] <_jason> doms: #mysql may be better able to help you
[03:08] <Phex> hey
[03:08] <Phex> he can't find the main class
[03:08] <Phex> and now what i do?
[03:08] <_jason> Phex: who is he?
[03:08] <Phex> java
[03:08] <Phex> my b0x
[03:08] <_jason> Phex: how did you run it?
[03:08] <Phex> console
[03:08] <Phex> java
[03:08] <_jason> Phex: the command you used?
[03:09] <Phex> java
[03:09] <_jason> Phex: just 'java' ?
[03:09] <Phex> yes
[03:09] <skpl_> can someone tell me how to flush the list of accepted users from my ssh?
[03:09] <captine> help - please can someone suggest a good console web-browser.  Links and Lynx don't view the airport login page. as such, i have no internet connectivity in linux
[03:09] <Phex> are there other comands?
[03:09] <_jason> Phex: just 'java' prints a usage list
[03:09] <captine> *ubuntu
[03:09] <Phex> ok
[03:09] <Phex> hm but what command i can use?
[03:09] <_jason> Phex: are you trying to open that .jar file?
[03:09] <captine> need to install ati graphics drivers
[03:09] <captine> asap
[03:09] <Phex> yes
[03:09] <Phex> the *.jar fiel
[03:09] <_jason> Phex: java -jar /path/to/file.jar
[03:09] <Phex> file
[03:09] <pear-i> there's a paramater for .jar
[03:10] <Phex> ok
[03:10] <Phex> thank you
[03:10] <kingspawn> skpl_: are you asking how to see which users are allowed to ssh into your box?
[03:10] <[RS] Dak> hi all 714
[03:10] <skpl_> kingspawn: no, im talking about when you ssh to a node, it asks you if you want to accept it, do you know what i mean?
[03:11] <devill18> pl
[03:11] <Phex> the jar is  aunregognized option
[03:11] <kingspawn> skpl_: you mean it asks about the key of the host etc?
[03:11] <skpl_> kingspawn: yes
[03:11] <kingspawn> skpl_: it is in ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[03:11] <devill18> pl
[03:11] <captine> else, how do i get into X-windows using ati mobility graphics card, without ati drivers?
[03:11] <Phex> unrecognized option
[03:11] <devill18> some one pl?
[03:12] <Phex> may i install java?
[03:12] <captine> are there generic drivers? vesa or something
[03:12] <feistel> hi
[03:12] <[RS] Dak> WRC
[03:12] <feistel> how I can get SNMP support in Apache/PHP4 ?
[03:12] <feistel> I just have php4-snmp package installed
[03:12] <devill18> Some one sea polish?
[03:12] <feistel> but don't work
[03:12] <XiXaQ> muep, gparted? :)
[03:12] <slackern> !pl
[03:12] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:12] <devill18> Some one speak polish?
[03:12] <Phex> hey _jason
[03:13] <_jason> Phex: hello
[03:13] <devill18> thx
[03:13] <devill18> :*
[03:13] <Phex> it doesn'T work _jason
[03:13] <slackern> Your welcome.
[03:13] <captine> can anyone help with the above question.  I don;t have internet connection at home.  only got another 20 minutes at the airport?
[03:13] <Phex> console mean: unrecognized option
[03:13] <_jason> Phex: paste exactly what you typed
[03:14] <muep> XiXaQ: gparted is a partitioning program, like partition magic
[03:14] <Phex> hm that's difficult maybe you can wait a llil?
[03:14] <_jason> Phex: you are on a different computer?
[03:15] <captine> really want to get X-windows working before i leave
[03:15] <Phex> yes _jason i've two computers
[03:15] <[RS] Dak> hte
[03:15] <waylandbill> is there a way to stop my screen from blanking? my junky monitor doesn't come back on after blanking.
[03:15] <_jason> Phex: if the other computer has internet access, you can use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:16] <Phex> gij:unrecognized option --`jar/path/to/file
[03:16] <kingspawn> heh
[03:16] <Phex> noe he hasn'T _jason but maybe in two or three weeks
[03:17] <_jason> Phex: that's not what you typed, that's what it said, but it seems you are missing a space after the word ``jar''
[03:17] <_jason> Phex: and /path/to/file is the actual path to the file
[03:17] <captine> is there an ubuntu channel for notebook support?
[03:17] <Phex> yes it is
[03:17] <Phex> if you want the ful path
[03:18] <Phex> he is a lil bit longer
[03:18] <_jason> Phex: you put a space after the ``-jar'' ?
[03:18] <Phex> the path
[03:18] <Phex> no i didn't but i've a look
[03:18] <Phex> no there is no space
[03:19] <_jason> Phex: k, you need one
[03:19] <fennec_> salut
[03:19] <Phex> ok
[03:19] <_jason> !fr
[03:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:19] <Phex> i did
[03:20] <Phex> now he said: failed to load main class
[03:20] <ubuntu> hello
[03:20] <ubuntu> who can help me ?
[03:20] <ubuntu> ?
[03:20] <WhitePower> hi
[03:20] <Sir_Fawnpug> Am I the only one that finds that somewhat unnessescary (not you ubuntu)
[03:21] <_jason> Phex: maybe you can try ##java
[03:21] <tijn> !w32codecs
[03:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:21] <Sir_Fawnpug> Ubuntu, what seems to be the problem?
[03:21] <jaybuffet> has anyone install ubuntu on microsoft virtual server 2005 r2 ?
[03:21] <tijn> erm als the media stuff, whats the link?
[03:21] <Phex> ok i will try
[03:22] <tijn> !media
[03:22] <ubotu> tijn: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:22] <Phex> hm nothing happend but iwait a bit
[03:22] <ubuntu> how can i play mp3.*  files in my computer?
[03:22] <Phex> maybe the b0x take his time
[03:22] <Phex> ^^
[03:22] <Sir_Fawnpug> ubuntu, I use xmms.
[03:22] <tijn> !mp3
[03:22] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:22] <ubuntu> any other?
[03:22] <tijn> die zocht ik!
[03:23] <Sir_Fawnpug> Probably lame.
[03:23] <tijn> thnx ubuntu
[03:23] <Phex> _jason maybe sudo ##jave -jar /file to path?
[03:23] <ubuntu> where can i download them?
[03:23] <_jason> Phex: type this in irc: /join ##java
[03:24] <Phex> i type this but nothing happend
[03:24] <Sir_Fawnpug> ubuntu, have you used synapse before?
[03:24] <Sir_Fawnpug> I knwo for sure synapse has xmms
[03:25] <ubuntu> Sir_Fawnpug havn't
[03:25] <Sir_Fawnpug> I think you have to add a source which uses universe in it to get it htough.
[03:26] <Sir_Fawnpug> Synapse is pretty cool, it's pretty much a package manager (more aptly put, synapse is a frontend to apt)
[03:26] <Sir_Fawnpug> Man I did not mean to make that pun. I've been up at school all night, forgive me.
[03:26] <ubuntu> thank you!
[03:26] <XiXaQ> wow. I thought 5.10 was the latest release of ubuntu?
[03:27] <Phex> hey _jason i type this but nothing do
[03:27] <Sir_Fawnpug> Is dapper drake already released?
[03:27] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm a gentoo kid, you'll have to forgive me.
[03:27] <XiXaQ> how can there be a 6.06 version when we're only in april, is it a beta?
[03:27] <pear-i> dapper is released for beta
[03:27] <_jason> Phex: do you know how to join a new channel in trillian?
[03:27] <Sir_Fawnpug> pear-i, how's your wireless situation giong.
[03:27] <pear-i> still nothing
[03:27] <Sir_Fawnpug> That sucks
[03:27] <pear-i> card is detected
[03:28] <pear-i> i can connect to non - wep enabled
[03:28] <BockBilbo> anyone here knows wich charset uses samba by default
[03:28] <pear-i> but can't connect to my router yet :P
[03:28] <Sir_Fawnpug> BockBilbo, I think unicode but I might be mistaken.
[03:28] <|lostbyte|> whats this flight ?
[03:28] <BockBilbo> im trying to mount a remote samba share, but cant see properly some latin charates
[03:28] <ubuntu> Sir_Fawnpug may i ask you another question?
[03:28] <Sir_Fawnpug> Ubuntu, go ahead.
[03:28] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm taking a break from my coding.
[03:28] <burns> pear-i: u use dhcp?
[03:28] <|lostbyte|> !flight
[03:28] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, |lostbyte|
[03:28] <Sir_Fawnpug> Waiting for my prof to get here.
[03:28] <BockBilbo> Sir_Fawnpug, if its unicode, i should add utf8 to fstab, right?
[03:28] <pear-i> yep
[03:28] <|lostbyte|> flight 5 ... so one ?
[03:28] <Phex> yes i do _jason but nothing do
[03:28] <burns> on how many slots?
[03:29] <Phex> happend
[03:29] <Sir_Fawnpug> Bock, I dunno, I haven't messed around with samba that much.
[03:29] <pear-i> burns: slots?
[03:29] <ubuntu> how can i chang my name in x -chat?
[03:29] <Sir_Fawnpug> ubuntu, use /nick name
[03:29] <Phex> he don't want to open this channel
[03:29] <skpl_> ubuntu: /nick
[03:29] <burns> network 'cards'
[03:29] <_jason> Phex: there are people in ##java that can help you with that, myself, I don't know much about java
[03:29] <BockBilbo> thanks Sir_Fawnpug
[03:29] <ubuntu> thanks a lot
[03:29] <Phex> why i can't go in the room?
[03:29] <Phex> hmm
[03:29] <|lostbyte|> ubuntu: click on your name on the left and it will ask if you want to change !
[03:30] <Phex> is the room not only java?
[03:30] <Optic> mooooooooo
[03:30] <Phex> maybe not room ##java
[03:30] <pear-i> its on my laptop
[03:30] <pear-i> 1 - wifi 1 ethernet 1 modem... that doesn't really count hto :p
[03:30] <Phex> only java
[03:30] <Phex> hm
[03:30] <name> unbird
[03:30] <|lostbyte|> flight 5 ... so one ?
[03:30] <name> udbird
[03:30] <|lostbyte|> what is it ?
[03:30] <pear-i> and for some reason in the network manager i have an extra wifi thing 'detected'
[03:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> Phex, it's weird, people an #java are usually sticklers about going off topic.
[03:31] <waylandbill> lol... replace name in /nick name with the actual name.
[03:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> name, you shoudl register that nick.
[03:31] <Phex> he don't want to open this room
[03:31] <Phex> i damn win
[03:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> Haha, am I in the middle of some weird game?
[03:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> Staying up for over 86400 seconds is not doing me much good.
[03:32] <udbird> how can i register this nick?
[03:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> Somebody plug me into the UP
[03:33] <waylandbill> udbird, /msg nickserv register
[03:33] <Sir_Fawnpug> "/msg nickserv register name password email" or something like that.
[03:33] <|lostbyte|> once i load a ndiswrapper driver, where will it copy it.. ?
[03:33] <Sir_Fawnpug> there's a directory it goes in /etc I think
[03:33] <Sir_Fawnpug> I forget
[03:33] <skpl_> does anyone here know if vmware is stale?
[03:33] <skpl_> stable
[03:34] <|lostbyte|> Sir_Fawnpug: thanks..
[03:34] <burns> set lan adapter to static and wifi to dhcp
[03:34] <|lostbyte|> skpl_: Yes its stable.
[03:34] <Sir_Fawnpug> Good lord where's the professor
[03:34] <|lostbyte|> Sir_Fawnpug: pls use my nick name, as i dont what to read everyones replay :)
[03:34] <|lostbyte|> what/want*
[03:34] <tijn> hehe
[03:35] <Sir_Fawnpug> Haha, nah, I like my nick.
[03:35] <tijn> you really didnt get that one? :)
[03:35] <Sir_Fawnpug> I still say name is a cool nick to register.
[03:35] <|lostbyte|> Sir_Fawnpug: lolz.. i mean use my nick when you replay :P
[03:35] <Sir_Fawnpug> What, to /dev/null?
[03:35] <Sir_Fawnpug> What kind of journaled filesystem is that?
[03:36] <|lostbyte|> Sir_Fawnpug: huh ?
[03:36] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm slow today, I must let you know.
[03:36] <Sir_Fawnpug> I have been writing too much C and assembly for my own good.
[03:36] <Sir_Fawnpug> For hours on end.
[03:37] <Sir_Fawnpug> |lostbyte|: I just got what you meant.
[03:37] <|lostbyte|> Sir_Fawnpug: ok
[03:38] <Sir_Fawnpug> Great minds need time to hit the cutoff point.
[03:38] <Sir_Fawnpug> Oh, but they do alright.
[03:38] <sk8az> how to compile files, if i have a INSTALL named file, what command should i use?
[03:39] <|lostbyte|> whats the meaning of flight.6 ?
[03:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> ./config && make
[03:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> INSTALL is usually just a text ifle
[03:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> Tells you how to install it.
[03:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> Use dog on it.
[03:39] <|lostbyte|> sk8az: ./configure ( if that go alright ) then make and then "make install" to install to system which is to be done as root.
[03:40] <freezey> i am gettin a segmentation fault with gproftpd anyone know what could possibly be wrong?
[03:40] <Sir_Fawnpug> freezey, source or binary?
[03:40] <|lostbyte|> freezey: Segment fault can be anything from module to libs.. not supported. or broken..
[03:40] <Sir_Fawnpug> I mean I could say it tried to dereference the null pointer but that would probably make you angry.
[03:40] <alek> hi, I have a fat32 partition and I changed /etc/fstab to read-write but I cant write. I tried to set chmod 777 to /media/sda2 (as root ofkorz) but it changes back to 755:(  dont know what to do
[03:41] <freezey> it says Vhost or anon END Segmentation fault
[03:41] <|lostbyte|> i added users to my fdtab and i want to know what it still mounts as root. as all the files in it is root permissioned ? HELP !
[03:41] <|lostbyte|> fdtab/fstab
[03:41] <axisme> alek, can you write using sudo?
[03:42] <|lostbyte|> what/why*
[03:42] <alek> I used sudo: sudo chmod 777 /media/sda2
[03:42] <|lostbyte|> axisme: I dont wnat to sudo always..
[03:42] <freezey> sir_fawnpug: it tells me Vhost or anon END Segmentation fault
[03:42] <alek> it didnt write any error but when i checked chmod it is still 755
[03:42] <passbe> wat ports does gnome bt-download use the v1 or v2 ports ?
[03:42] <axisme> lostbyte change to umask=000
[03:42] <|lostbyte|> alek: done that.. but says permissioned denied, as root also..
[03:42] <Sir_Fawnpug> freezey, when and how does it segfault?
[03:43] <|lostbyte|> axisme: and..
[03:43] <axisme> and it should work
[03:43] <axisme> if memory serves
[03:43] <|lostbyte|> axisme: is'nt that a security bad.
[03:43] <axisme> you just asked for it lol
[03:43] <freezey> sir_fawnpug: when i click on the servers tab i'll  click apply.. for my server to be on the selected server when i click on it when its in the selected server boom everytime
[03:44] <der0b> can anyone reccomend any console im clients?
[03:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> freezey, it might be good to file a bug report
[03:44] <|lostbyte|> axisme: Will try it..
[03:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> der0b, naim
[03:44] <alek> yeah i fixed it:)
[03:44] <axisme> i mean the /etc/fstab
[03:44] <der0b> multi protocol?
[03:44] <axisme> in case you were wondering
[03:44] <rem_> whats the configuration file for X in breezy ?
[03:44] <alek> i had to delete uid=alek in /etc/fstab
[03:44] <alek> :)
[03:44] <rem_> /etc/X11 ,., ?
[03:45] <freezey> sir_fawnpug: where do i file one
[03:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> der0b, not sure then.
[03:45] <|lostbyte|> axisme: lolz ! no.. i dont wnat to change the permission to my whole system or user space. just a windows partition i have.. which is mounted as root..
[03:45] <HymnToLife> rem_> xorg.conf
[03:45] <mudmutt> Hello world!
[03:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> freezey: if you got the package from ubuntu there's probably a bug tracker.
[03:45] <rem_> k thx
[03:45] <der0b> cool I'll play with naim for a bit though.. thanks
[03:45] <axisme> soo find it in /etc/fstab and change it
[03:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> The proftpd peopel probably have one too.
[03:45] <alek> ok so i have one more question. I need video codecs because I cant play any mpg or avi wideo:(
[03:45] <freezey> sir_fawnpug:  u got any other suggestions for an FTP
[03:45] <alek> (using totem)
[03:45] <mudmutt> Anyone here has a i915 and has working 3d acceleration?
[03:45] <axisme> alek, install vlc
[03:45] <|lostbyte|> alek: try mplayer.
[03:46] <HymnToLife> alek> who needs codecs ? use VLC :p
[03:46] <Sir_Fawnpug> alek, I never liked totem. I recommend you install gmplayer
[03:46] <axisme> yes mudmutt, but im on dapper
[03:46] <|lostbyte|> Whats flight.3 ?
[03:46] <alek> ok ill try:)
[03:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell alek about multimedia
[03:46] <mudmutt> axisme:  so do I.
[03:46] <axisme> it worked out of teh box  for me
[03:46] <alek> thanks _jason
[03:47] <mudmutt> axisme:  could you paste glxinfo output (priv)?
[03:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> freezey, nah, never needed ftp. I always run sshd.
[03:47] <freezey> sir_fawnpug:  ok
[03:48] <|lostbyte|> Why does'nt glxgear show me fps in the console i run ?
[03:48] <rem_> is there a way to have breezy detect your graphic card ans screen again .. ?
[03:48] <Sir_Fawnpug> Do you have the right glx driver?
[03:48] <rem_> in command line ..
[03:48] <|lostbyte|> Sir_Fawnpug: ftp is faster than sftp
[03:48] <|lostbyte|> Whats flight.3 ?
[03:49] <_jason> rem_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:49] <_jason> !glxgears
[03:49] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[03:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> |lostbyte|: Yeah, but it's also reasonably secure.
[03:49] <HymnToLife> rem_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:49] <HymnToLife> dammi, I got pwn3d :(
[03:49] <|lostbyte|> Sir_Fawnpug: thats there..
[03:49] <|lostbyte|> Why does'nt glxgear show me fps in the console i run ?
[03:49] <_jason> |lostbyte|: see what ubotu said
[03:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> |lostbyte|: what's there?
[03:49] <axisme> accept dcc , mudmutt
[03:50] <HymnToLife> |lostbyte|> you have to use it with she -showfps paameter
[03:50] <|lostbyte|> _jason: thanks..
[03:50] <HymnToLife> or something like that
[03:50] <HymnToLife> the*
[03:50] <_jason> |lostbyte|: np
[03:50] <|lostbyte|> HymnToLife: thanks.
[03:50] <mudmutt> axisme: try again, please.
[03:51] <axisme> possible my firewall is blocking heh
[03:51] <mudmutt> axisme: so paste it on priv.
[03:51] <axisme> want me to email
[03:51] <|lostbyte|> Could someone paste me their wlan0 lines in interfaces file ? Just for my reference..
[03:51] <mudmutt> axisme: please
[03:51] <axisme> its a huge output
[03:51] <axisme> pm me your email
[03:51] <axisme> im not lagging my irc :-)
[03:52] <|lostbyte|> anyone ?
[03:53] <axisme> mudmutt?
[03:53] <freezey> Whats a good FTP client such a proftpd.. i need to run an FTP server and gpro failed on me..
[03:54] <signature16> how do i know what the hard drive just add to my system will be named? will log/messages show it?
[03:54] <mudmutt> axisme: tumdum@gmail.com
[03:54] <axisme> ftp server then feezey
[03:54] <freezey> axisme: what?
[03:54] <Rayman> how could I start SSHD on each boot
[03:54] <axisme> argh did you just give your email out to all these people
[03:54] <mudmutt> yeah ;)
[03:55] <_jason> mudmutt: this channel is logged, spam bots are going to find it :/
[03:55] <HymnToLife> I hope you have a good antispam
[03:55] <axisme> sent
[03:55] <freezey> axisme: FTP server is the name of it?
[03:56] <axisme> freezey i have never used an ftp server on ubuntu..but on bsd i use pureftpd
[03:56] <slackern> Rayman: "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" that should install and set it up to run on each boot.
[03:56] <|lostbyte|> Rayman: BUM
[03:56] <freezey> axisme: does it have a gui or is it all console
[03:57] <axisme> well i only ever man it in console as they were remote machines
[03:57] <axisme> ran*
[03:57] <axisme> dunno if it has a gui
[03:57] <HymnToLife> in the server world, everything is command line
[03:57] <Mwafrica> Help... Im new to Ubuntu i would like to get a Peer to Peer program
[03:57] <slackern> Rayman: Or of it is installed see |lostbyte|'s tip.
[03:57] <HymnToLife> this is _not_ Windows ;)
[03:57] <mudmutt> axisme: can you send me your xorg.conf?
[03:57] <Rayman> yaeh, im remoting the comp now.
[03:57] <axisme> sure
[03:57] <freezey> axisme: i am running ubuntu which do you think i should use for user authentication LDAP or MYSQL
[03:58] <axisme> no idea..
[03:58] <|lostbyte|> slackern: is there a console version of bum ?
[03:58] <gnetux> hi everyone
[03:59] <slackern> |lostbyte|: You could do it commandline also i guess but im not so familliar with debians init structure yet so i won't comment on that.
[03:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> debian uses sysv init doesn't it?
[03:59] <robokop> hmm if i want to change from kubuntu to ubuntu which packages should i remove and which should i install
[03:59] <|lostbyte|> slackern: ok
[04:00] <|lostbyte|> robertj: remove kde instal gnome.
[04:00] <HymnToLife> robokop> to install Ubuntu (GNOME), sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:00] <scanwinder> what packages would the "OpenGL development packages" be?
[04:01] <livingdaylight> YoYOYo People!
[04:01] <HymnToLife> scanwinder> search for it in synaptic ;)
[04:01] <|lostbyte|> Whats flight.3 ?
[04:01] <robokop> HymnToLife: and which packages could i remove then (i only have 20G harddisk)
[04:01] <tomplast> can anyone tell me why nvtv only outputs grayscale for me?
[04:01] <scanwinder> HymnToLife: i have but im still not sure which ones i need
[04:01] <Sir_Fawnpug> robokop: probably kde is going to remove the most space.
[04:02] <Sir_Fawnpug> Fluxbox is where it's really at though.
[04:02] <axisme> mudmutt, send
[04:02] <axisme> sent*
[04:03] <joevandyk> Is the Ubuntu git kernel rsync repository down?
[04:03] <HymnToLife> robokop> well, 20 GB is enough to have both I think, I have them on a 10 GB partition. But if you want to remove KDE, ty removing kdelibs or something like that
[04:03] <HymnToLife> something that all the KDE packages depend on
[04:03] <pitfall> qt ? ;)
[04:04] <joevandyk> I'm running git clone rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git ubuntu-2.6
[04:04] <joevandyk>  and nothing's happening after it receives the file list
[04:05] <livingdaylight> What up People?!
[04:05] <Sir_Fawnpug> !gq
[04:05] <ubotu> Sir_Fawnpug: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> I broke it.
[04:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> !in
[04:06] <ubotu> in is, like, There is a support channel for India, localization, translation and internationalization for Indian languages, as well as support for using Ubuntu in Indian language (for the indic* packages) in the channel #ubuntu-in
[04:06] <|lostbyte|> slackern: update-rc.d check if you have it ?
[04:06] <slackern> |lostbyte|: yep thats the tool to edit it.
[04:06] <|lostbyte|> slackern: ok :) cool..
[04:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> !la
[04:07] <ubotu> Sir_Fawnpug: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:07] <robokop> Sir_Fawnpug: hmm that fluxbox, how good is that
[04:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> robokop, pretty lightweight
[04:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> I personally like it.
[04:07] <trappist> robokop: it's nice and light, and can be pretty good looking.
[04:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> Can't stand either gnome or kde
[04:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> And even E's a bit too heavy for me.
[04:08] <der0b> sir_fawnpug: centericq looks perfect for multiprot im (fyi)
[04:08] <Sir_Fawnpug> der0b, good deal.
[04:08] <trappist> Sir_Fawnpug: you might light flux then - it's not as light as, say, ratpoison, but it won't slow you down.
[04:08] <gnetux> someone cuold help me
[04:08] <Sir_Fawnpug> trappist: haha, I know, I use it.
[04:08] <hiku> Hi, I need help setting up a wireless netnetwork card on a laptop. Network uses WPA.
[04:09] <gnetux> i've got some problems with pppd
[04:09] <trappist> Sir_Fawnpug: oh I guess I meant to say that to robokop :)
[04:09] <Sir_Fawnpug> trappist: I don't think it could get any more lightweight without becoming twm or evilwm
[04:09] <goki-> who needs a WM?
[04:09] <Sir_Fawnpug> trappist: You seen E17 by the way?
[04:09] <goki-> if you need to drag windows around, etc., you are doing something wrong!
[04:09] <trappist> Sir_Fawnpug: yeah, it seems to have a long way to go
[04:10] <axisme> hiku, breezy or dapper?
[04:10] <robokop> Sir_Fawnpug: E17 looks great
[04:10] <trappist> goki-: you need a wm to arrange your multiple consoles on one screen, of course
[04:10] <Sir_Fawnpug> trappist: a while back I did a gentoo install for my friend, and his wife is really artsy, so I put it on there.
[04:10] <goki-> trappist, ah I guess
[04:10] <hiku> axisme: Breezy
[04:10] <trappist> Sir_Fawnpug: it's purty and all, but imho it's kinda vaporware
[04:11] <axisme> i never bothered to do it in breezy...does breezy have network manager?
[04:11] <Sir_Fawnpug> trappist: the libraries are open-source though, right?
[04:11] <trappist> yep
[04:11] <Sir_Fawnpug> I mean anybody who wants to pick the project back up can.
[04:11] <elfaro> hola
[04:12] <Sir_Fawnpug> Not that I have alot of experience in designing window managers.
[04:12] <elfaro> holita
[04:12] <elfaro> en que idioma ablais?
[04:13] <ruxpin> I've got a problem with one package.. it seems to have one configuration option missing, I need to compile it. which I did, but apparanly the paths went wrong. how can I tell where the default deb package has installed the files?
[04:13] <Sir_Fawnpug> dkpg -i packagename I think
[04:13] <Sir_Fawnpug> It's been a while since I used dpkg
[04:14] <hiku> I don't think so.. I have been walking thruough the HOWTO on the Wiki
[04:14] <axisme> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[04:14] <axisme> see if that installs anything
[04:15] <ruxpin> or..can I use the -o option for apt to compile and install a package for me?
[04:15] <Sir_Fawnpug> ruxpin, no clue, the man page probably has better info than I do.
[04:15] <axisme> hiku?
[04:16] <vinboy> hi
[04:16] <Sir_Fawnpug> dpkg -i I believe wil llet you see where the source goes to, though.
[04:16] <AgreSor> how to extract .zip files?
[04:16] <ernix> 
[04:16] <vinboy> i just formatted my partition as reiserfs, how do I mount it now??
[04:16] <|lostbyte|> AgreSor: unzip
[04:16] <AgreSor> root@pussy:~# unzip
[04:16] <AgreSor> -bash: unzip: command not found
[04:17] <hajuu> lolz
[04:17] <robokop> AgreSor: zip
[04:17] <hajuu> unzip that pussy?
[04:17] <hiku> axisme: saw your private chat... talk to you there.
[04:17] <hajuu> you big virgin dawg
[04:17] <AgreSor> :D
[04:17] <AgreSor> hehehheehhehe
[04:17] <AgreSor> it`s cool hostname
[04:17] <AgreSor> ;P
[04:17] <Rondom> AgreSor: Ark
[04:17] <Rondom> !ark
[04:17] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Rondom
[04:17] <Sir_Fawnpug> Sweet nectar of jesus my professor is finally here.
[04:17] <Rondom> !zip
[04:17] <ubotu> Rondom: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:20] <ruxpin> vinboy: just like any other partition
[04:20] <crtq> yo
[04:21] <crtq> minou!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:24] <Neurosis> is there a way to start gaim from a console remotely?
[04:24] <iceman> wow. old copy of the Nextstep and Openstep Operating system on ebay already over 600.00 ....dang ....
[04:24] <odyssey12386> hello
[04:24] <LeeJunFan> anyone know a trick to get your touchpad working on a laptop if it doesn't after resuming? Of course X is still claiming evdev so rmmodding that won't work.
[04:25] <odyssey12386> thats beyond me
[04:26] <odyssey12386> how do you stop your dvd from being jumpy
[04:26] <LeeJunFan> !hdparm
[04:26] <odyssey12386> would region set have something d
[04:26] <LeeJunFan> ubotu: tell odyssey12386 about hdparm
[04:26] <odyssey12386> to do with iot
[04:27] <odyssey12386> thats it
[04:27] <LeeJunFan> DMA most likely.
[04:27] <odyssey12386> dma?
[04:27] <HymnToLife> !dma
[04:27] <LeeJunFan> Direct Memory Access if memory serves me right.
[04:27] <odyssey12386> ok
[04:27] <HymnToLife> Oh my God, they killed ubotu
[04:27] <LeeJunFan> odyssey12386: check out what ubotu said about hdparm.
[04:27] <odyssey12386> ist there a wiki about hdparm
[04:27] <LeeJunFan> yeah, I see that.
[04:28] <LeeJunFan> ubotu: how long have you been neutered?
[04:28] <ubotu> LeeJunFan: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:28] <LeeJunFan> hehe
[04:28] <HymnToLife> !ubotu
[04:28] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[04:28] <odyssey12386> when  i got maried thats when i got neutred
[04:28] <GnarusLeo> hm ... I have the amarok sending the covers, and all to my iPod, but still it wont show in my iPod ... what can that be about?
[04:29] <steve343> errrr my comp is very messed up
[04:29] <adubois> dxis
[04:29] <HymnToLife> that's uncool
[04:29] <LeeJunFan> steve343: remove windows.
[04:29] <LeeJunFan> :)
[04:29] <steve343> help
[04:29] <adubois> mxsdde
[04:29] <HymnToLife> you could try removing GNOME also ;)
[04:30] <steve343> okkkkay
[04:30] <odyssey12386> i just moved from gentoo to ubuntu ... ubuntu is pretty sweet!
[04:30] <steve343> windows has all my stuff on it
[04:30] <LeeJunFan> steve343: just ask the question.
[04:30] <HymnToLife> odyssey12386> yes it is, especially compared to gentoo
[04:30] <HymnToLife> but gentoo is more fun
[04:30] <steve343> how the hell do i fix the boot sector on my hd
[04:30] <odyssey12386> fun to see the compiling
[04:30] <HymnToLife> no
[04:30] <LeeJunFan> steve343: define fix.
[04:30] <odyssey12386> go b
[04:31] <steve343> windows no longer starts
[04:31] <HymnToLife> funh to see the compiling fil and start it all over again :p
[04:31] <dabaR> steve343: that means it is fixed.
[04:31] <LeeJunFan> steve343: but linux does okay?
[04:31] <LeeJunFan> dabaR: LOL
[04:31] <steve343> ok it say ntlds is missing
[04:32] <odyssey12386> im just learning linux but i had gentoo going pretty good
[04:32] <HymnToLife> steve343> that's NTLDR
[04:32] <steve343> ubuntu failed durring the installation
[04:32] <steve343> thats the one ... what the hell is it
[04:32] <iceman> thats plain outragious... Nextstep "apple's original Unix" price over 600.oo on ebay ...
[04:32] <HymnToLife> then isall ubuntu again
[04:33] <dabaR> s/isall/install/
[04:33] <steve343> but the reason it failed is the disk right how do i burn another disk when i cant acess windows
[04:33] <HymnToLife> install yeah sorry
[04:34] <dabaR> steve343: do you have a live CD?
[04:34] <iceman> God, I'd like to just try Nextstep / Openstep .. for the experience ... would also be curious if Linux software would compile under it
[04:34] <steve343> nope
[04:34] <HymnToLife> steve343> fix your Window
[04:34] <HymnToLife> boot from Windows CD in rescue command line
[04:34] <steve343> how do i fix my windows
[04:34] <steve343> ive tryed the offical disk
[04:34] <HymnToLife> and run fixmbd and fixboot c: <= or whatever ltter your drive is
[04:34] <steve343> would mixmbr do it?
[04:34] <iceman> steve343 what did you do to winblows ?
[04:34] <dabaR> you guys spell like my grandma
[04:34] <HymnToLife> fixmbr* sorry
[04:34] <HymnToLife> and fixboot c:
[04:35] <steve343> okie ill try that
[04:35] <steve343> windows doesnt look damaged it the boot that isnt working
[04:35] <HymnToLife> that will fix it
[04:35] <iceman> what boot loader did you try to install
[04:35] <iceman> grub or lilo
[04:36] <HymnToLife> I guess Ubuntu installs GRUB
[04:36] <HymnToLife> that's why I have LILO becaue I'm so un-conformist :p
[04:36] <dabaR> I have yaboot
[04:36] <iceman> I have LInux "in dos" :)
[04:37] <iceman> no bootloader configirations
[04:37] <GnarusLeo> I have connected my iPod to my amaroK, and transfeered some mp3's with covers (Wich I can see of getting the properties and seeing the cover in amaroK from the iPd) .. But the covers wont show up when playing in iPod, any ideas? is it a iPod setting?
[04:37] <LeeJunFan> I just dd'ed my kernel to my MBR :p
[04:37] <HymnToLife> !tell GnarusLeo about ipod
[04:38] <Frogzoo> GnarusLeo: maybe the file format?
[04:38] <GnarusLeo> Frogzoo, what do you mean?
[04:38] <Frogzoo> GnarusLeo: does ipod accept png?
[04:38] <iceman> wish i understood "linux" filesystem dependancies, I'd love to get Ubuntu on a fat32 install
[04:38] <GnarusLeo> HymnToLife, yeah, that helps my question  ....
[04:38] <GnarusLeo> Frogzoo, oh, good question ...
[04:38] <axisme> iceman, thats just wrong
[04:38] <odyssey12386> how do you change the boot loader to
[04:38] <HymnToLife> GnarusLeo> It worked for maybe thousands of ppl, why wouldn't it work for you ?
[04:39] <Frogzoo> iceman: linux will install quite happily to fat32 - though why you'd want to is dubious
[04:39] <GnarusLeo> HymnToLife, because it doesnt describe my problem ... at all
[04:39] <iceman> no, with "dos" and linux in the system, I can use two command shells
[04:39] <odyssey12386> how do you change the menu for the boot loader ;  the default os
[04:39] <_jason> odyssey12386: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:39] <HymnToLife> dammit, I should have read more carefully
[04:40] <odyssey12386> thankyou jason
[04:40] <HymnToLife> well I can't help you here, I have an older iPod which doesn't handle covers
[04:40] <iceman> Anyone here used Nextstep or openstep
[04:40] <dabaR> iceman: ... ask your question.
[04:40] <GnarusLeo> HymnToLife, thanks anyways
[04:41] <unforcer> I have been using Dapper since january and its still slow should I make clear install? Will it make it any better?
[04:41] <axisme> system specs, unforcer?
[04:41] <iceman> Wonder what crossing and recompiling "linux" software might be like in OpenStep or NeXTSTEP ?
[04:41] <Frogzoo> unforcer: did you enable DMA?
[04:41] <unforcer> A64 3000+, 200GB sata, 1G UTT
[04:42] <Frogzoo> unforcer: that doesn't answer my question....
[04:42] <axisme> answers mine though heh
[04:42] <GnarusLeo> Frogzoo, is the amarok covers *.png?
[04:42] <unforcer> Frogzoo: I cannot really say because sudo hdparm /dev/sda wont give me a dma line
[04:42] <dabaR> png is pictures
[04:42] <GuadamuX> Hello everybody !!! does anybody can help me? I have a nexxt wireless pci card. I don't know how use it in my ubuntu breezy
[04:42] <LinuxJones_> unforcer: you can't use hdparm on an sata drive
[04:42] <joshritge1> I am having trouble with x11vnc, if i close the window on my windows machine it wont let me oepn a new connection
[04:43] <GnarusLeo> GuadamuX, "sudo apt-get install network-manager" the run "nm-applet"
[04:43] <LinuxJones_> unforcer: is it hard drive speed that is slow ?
[04:43] <unforcer> LinuxJones_: so they say?
[04:43] <Thralas> Is there anything available by default on U5.1 / pkg I can use to bench a HD?
[04:43] <Frogzoo> GnarusLeo: I'd guess amarok would accept jpg/gif/png at least
[04:43] <GuadamuX> thanks, GnarusLeo
[04:43] <|lostbyte|> Know any video editing tool
[04:43] <|lostbyte|> ?
[04:43] <dabaR> iceman: isn't openstep a wm/de?
[04:43] <unforcer> LinuxJones_: no and yes
[04:43] <LinuxJones_> |lostbyte|: one of the few areas where Linux sucks is video editing
[04:43] <dabaR> !info kino
[04:43] <ubotu> kino: (Non-linear editor for Digital Video data), section graphics, is extra. Version: 0.75-7ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 725 kB, Installed size: 2676 kB
[04:43] <GnarusLeo> Frogzoo, ya, it should ... cant find anything on google on it .. maybe its an iPod issue, or im just plain stupid :)
[04:43] <Thralas> Nevermind
[04:44] <Rondom> GnarusLeo: does it show up in network-manager
[04:44] <joshritge1> any help on x11vnc?
[04:44] <|lostbyte|> LinuxJones: ok !
[04:44] <GnarusLeo> Rondom, yes
[04:44] <Hobbsee> Tommy83a: please get rid of those messages...
[04:44] <GnarusLeo> huh? what shows up?
[04:44] <unforcer> LinuxJones_: how can I test it ? hdparm -tT is not best way to term fast or slow?
[04:44] <Rondom> GuadamuX:  does it show up in network-manger?
[04:44] <LinuxJones_> |lostbyte|: diva, jashaka or pitivi all  look like they will be very good, in about 2 years
[04:44] <Rondom> GuadamuX: what does iwconfig return?
[04:45] <LinuxJones_> unforcer: hdparm doesn't work on sata drives unless your connected via the ide connection on the drive.
[04:45] <toguro> how can i desativate the auto run of cdrom in ubuntu?
[04:45] <joshritge1> can somebody please help me with x11vnc?
[04:45] <unforcer> LinuxJones_: ok, so how can I speed things up? Go for gentoo?
[04:45] <AgreSor> man..
[04:45] <steve343> ok fixboot c
[04:46] <GuadamuX> Rondom, no, it does not
[04:46] <AgreSor> i have this error 2 weeks
[04:46] <AgreSor> root@pussy:~# centericq
[04:46] <AgreSor> centericq: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:46] <steve343> it didnt work
[04:46] <AgreSor> :s
[04:46] <AgreSor> root@pussy:~# centericq
[04:46] <AgreSor> centericq: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:46] <AgreSor>  ?
[04:46] <AgreSor> u know what is wrong ?
[04:46] <tombs> hi all
[04:46] <steve343> would fixmbr recourd work?
[04:46] <LinuxJones_> unforcer: is it jsut disk access you find slow or the entire system ?
[04:46] <steve343> the ntldr thing is still missing
[04:46] <unforcer> LinuxJones_: both
[04:46] <Hobbsee> !info libssl
[04:46] <steve343> what is ntldr??
[04:46] <LinuxJones_> unforcer: you won't notice any difference on a Gentoo system
[04:46] <HymnToLife> the Windows boot loader
[04:46] <Hobbsee> !info libssl0.9.8
[04:46] <Gean> something like that
[04:46] <Rondom> GuadamuX: paste the output of lspci pleas
[04:46] <Hobbsee> !info libssl0.9.7
[04:47] <ubotu> libssl0.9.7: (SSL shared libraries), section libs, is important. Version: 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2151 kB, Installed size: 5204 kB
[04:47] <Hobbsee> whatever's in breezy...
[04:47] <LinuxJones_> unforcer: are you running the 64 bit kernel ?
[04:47] <steve343> so fixmbr is what im looking for then
[04:47] <Rondom> GuadamuX: note here in the channel, but on pastbin.org
[04:47] <unforcer> LinuxJones_: Livecd is faster than this
[04:47] <Hobbsee> AgreSor: ^ i sthe one you want
[04:47] <Rondom> GuadamuX: note here in the channel, but on pastbin.com
[04:47] <unforcer> LinuxJones_:  32bit
[04:47] <Gean> can someone tell me a good ftpclient for ubuntu?
[04:47] <Rondom> Gean: gftp
[04:47] <Gean> and how to install it?
[04:47] <Gean> Rondom: thanks
[04:47] <unforcer> gentoo has the support for 64bit..
[04:47] <Gean> where do i get it?
[04:47] <loststar4545> ok i have installed  ubuntu when i start  up i get the screen with loading  stuff and then a black screen  with a white cursor i am fairly sure i have to edit  my xorg.conf but i dont know what to put in the device sectiom indentifier i have a nvidia 5500 pci or what to put under busid
[04:47] <Rondom> Gean: you found it?
[04:47] <robokop> Gean: apt-get install gftp
[04:47] <LinuxJones_> unforcer: run sudo top (and see what's taking the most resources)
[04:47] <AgreSor> !info libssl
[04:48] <cowboyway> is this channel for basic Ubuntu questions /
[04:48] <cowboyway> ?
[04:48] <GnarusLeo> Anyone know how I make my iPod nano show the covers given by amaroK?
[04:48] <AgreSor> !info libssl.so.5
[04:48] <unforcer> LinuxJones_: top
[04:48] <robokop> cowboyway: yes
[04:48] <AgreSor> :(
[04:48] <cowboyway> cool
[04:48] <GuadamuX> GnarusLeo, Rondom this is the output of nm-applet:    (nm-applet:10448): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:48] <GuadamuX> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:48] <iceman_> Wish this linux box would run Ubuntu ... how to install ubuntu on this drive ... ?
[04:48] <toguro> hi
[04:48] <unforcer> xorg nothing special in there
[04:48] <Gean> there seems to be a problem with the command but i don't know what
[04:48] <Hobbsee> !tell AgreSor about paste
[04:48] <iceman_> Slackware on UNSDOS .... linux in dos ..
[04:48] <cowboyway> I am a slackware user who is curious about ubuntu.....can one take a source package , compile and install on ubuntu ?
[04:48] <LinuxJones_> unforcer: yeah
[04:48] <Gean> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:48] <Hobbsee> cowboyway: yep
[04:49] <Rondom> GuadamuX: paste the output of lspci somewhere! e.g. on pastebin.com
[04:49] <cowboyway> cool......i usually start from source
[04:49] <robokop> Gean: do you have synaptic running orso
[04:49] <LinuxJones_> cowboyway: sure the sources are available as downloads via apt as well
[04:49] <GnarusLeo> GuadamuX, never seen that error before .. try googling it .. if you want, iwconfig, iwlist and so on are not so different commands for setting up your wireless ..you should start with "iwlist scan" to see if your network is listed
[04:49] <Gean> robokop: no
[04:49] <Hobbsee> cowboyway: the packages are often in binary form, so you dont need to though...
[04:49] <GuadamuX> Rondom,GnarusLeo, this is the part of the output of lspci about it :   0000:04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.: Unknown device 1faa (rev 03)
[04:49] <cowboyway> if installed from source is there a convenient way to uninstall ?
[04:49] <joshritge1> can i get hep using VNC please
[04:50] <LinuxJones_> unforcer: did you install binary drivers for your ati card ?
[04:50] <robokop> Gean: anything else that has something to do with package management (installing software)
[04:50] <Hobbsee> cowboyway: not really.  same as slackware i think.  make uninstall
[04:50] <MetaMorfoziS> chi all
[04:50] <Gean> robokop: i have no idea
[04:50] <unforcer> LinuxJones_: I am using fglrx, direct rendering is on
[04:50] <MetaMorfoziS> where can i find my passwords on the config file?
[04:50] <Gean> robokop: but i found it at synoptic
[04:50] <robokop> Gean: hmm Adept maybe
[04:50] <unforcer> btw how did you know that I have ati? :D
[04:50] <MetaMorfoziS> and where is that config file that contains the icq and msn account's passwords?
[04:51] <LinuxJones_> unforcer: your using the default Ubuntu kernel, not the 64 bit kernel right ?
[04:51] <joshritge1> Can someone please help me with x11vnc
[04:51] <robokop> Gean: well then install it from there
[04:51] <Gean> robokop: adept?
[04:51] <unforcer> LinuxJones_: K7
[04:51] <Gean> yeah i am doing that rite now
[04:51] <robokop> Gean: KDE package manager
[04:51] <LinuxJones_> unforcer: ok that's fine
[04:52] <Davey|Laptop> cowboyway, yes, but at your own risk :)
[04:52] <robokop> Gean: Adept and Synaptic are both gui frontends for apt-get
[04:52] <GuadamuX> GnarusLeo, Rondom. The card is a nexxt, but lspci saw "Marvel Technology Group"
[04:52] <jadams> what CLI ftp programs do you guys use?  I just tried out yafc for the first time, and its readline support and expanded commands make it really cool...
[04:52] <iceman2k> shoot how to make ubutnu run in umsdos ?
[04:52] <Gean> ok i installed gftp, thanks :)
[04:53] <mathieu> jadams: lftp
[04:53] <SoulPropagation> Would it be possible that after booting from a liveCD (5.10) an iMac G3 (OS 9) would freeze upon inserting a USB flash drive?
[04:53] <GuadamuX> GnarusLeo,Rondom this is the output of iwlist scan:  lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.      eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.     sit0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[04:53] <GuadamuX>        vmnet8    Interface doesn't support scanning.
[04:53] <GuadamuX>   vmnet1    Interface doesn't support scanning.
[04:53] <GuadamuX> 
[04:54] <GnarusLeo> Anyone got the album covers to work from Amarok to iPod
[04:54] <robokop> SoulPropagation: if that happens to you yes it is possible
[04:54] <eddie_stone> how to install m4a codecs lib?
[04:54] <GnarusLeo> GuadamuX, then you have not got the proper modules/drivers ... google your card
[04:54] <joshritge1> can someone help me wiht x11vnc?
[04:54] <eddie_stone> how to install m4a and wma codecs lib?
[04:54] <steve343> how good is the live cd?
[04:54] <eddie_stone> very good
[04:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell eddie_stone about multimedia
[04:55] <steve343> dam it i should have tried that first
[04:55] <_jason> steve343: what do you mean?
[04:55] <SoulPropagation> Would it be possible that after booting from a liveCD (5.10) an iMac G3 (OS 9) would freeze upon inserting a USB flash drive? And since it is possible (happened to me), would it be the liveCD that could cause it?
[04:57] <ssam> SoulPropagation, the live cd does not mess with the harddisk and install stuff unless you ask it too
[04:57] <steve343> the installation messup cos i used a scrached cd by mistake
[04:57] <jadams> mathieu: lftp looks really cool
[04:57] <jadams> I'll probably try it out in the near future
[04:57] <steve343> it didnt install a boot loader
[04:57] <SoulPropagation> ssam: I know. Would it be possible when it initializes the USB devices that it would blow them out?
[04:57] <steve343> so now my comp doesnt know what too do
[04:58] <ssam> SoulPropagation, i really dont think so
[04:58] <eddie_stone> does anybody knows any free php ide for linux?
[04:58] <SoulPropagation> ssam: because I have a ubuntu-clueless person that's pretty angry
[04:58] <SoulPropagation> ;)
[04:58] <SoulPropagation> eddie_stone: well there's gedit
[04:58] <eddie_stone> SoulPropagation: man, thanks...
[04:59] <ssam> SoulPropagation, there are very few cases where software can break hardware
[04:59] <SoulPropagation> eddie_stone: I've been looking for one for a looong time too... =(
[04:59] <eddie_stone> I would say fuck you, but Im easy today
[04:59] <steve343> i dont think you can fry a usb device theres not enough watts going through it
[04:59] <eddie_stone> ok, thanks
[04:59] <casper> ok who want to help me! i need help
[04:59] <mwe> !helpme
[04:59] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:59] <steve343> hehe
[05:00] <eddie_stone> smart bot
[05:00] <unforcer> so SATA drives is not supported on ubuntu?
[05:00] <SoulPropagation> ssam: So why does the iMac freeze up every time someone puts a flash drive in? And why did this happen AFTER I booted from t3h liveCD?
[05:00] <unforcer> are*
[05:00] <casper> according to ubuntu i have only 1 resolution 640*480 how do i get more
[05:00] <eddie_stone> hello lilo, grub is here to punch you
[05:00] <Hobbsee> Tommy83a: please delete that darned away message.  thankyou.
[05:00] <GnarusLeo> Anyone got the album covers to work from Amarok to iPod? They wont show up on the iPod, but theyr there allright
[05:00] <ssam> SoulPropagation, thats a good question
[05:01] <steve343> ok you need to install the right graphics drivers casper
[05:01] <SoulPropagation> ssam: but it was for sure not the liveCD?
[05:01] <ssam> SoulPropagation, i'd run through the standard fixing things in mac os 9
[05:01] <SoulPropagation> !kick Tommy83a
[05:01] <ubotu> SoulPropagation: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:01] <casper> i got the tar.gz file on the desktop but have no idea how to install it
[05:01] <casper> beeing a noob is soo shit
[05:01] <eddie_stone> casper: why dont you read something about linux?
[05:01] <ssam> SoulPropagation, verify the harddisk, boot with out extensions, reset the PRAM etc
[05:02] <SoulPropagation> ssam: gotcha.
[05:02] <muep> casper: what are you trying to do?
[05:02] <eddie_stone> casper: well, you should uncompact it
[05:02] <casper> done
[05:02] <SoulPropagation> ssam: pram zap is cmd+opt+p+r at boot right?
[05:02] <eddie_stone> try tar -zxf foo.tar.gz
[05:02] <ssam> SoulPropagation, something like that, untill you've heard the chime about 3 or 4 times
[05:03] <ssam> SoulPropagation, maybe shift aswell
[05:03] <SoulPropagation> ssam: lol
[05:03] <SoulPropagation> ssam: Thanks.
[05:04] <casper> once its extracted how do i install the driver, or update the one im using now?
[05:04] <freezey> Is anyone familiar with Pure-FTPD
[05:05] <muep> casper: don't install that one
[05:05] <muep> casper: did you get it from some ati or nvidia site?
[05:05] <casper> intel
[05:05] <steve343> whats wrong with the officall ones?
[05:05] <steve343> uh oh
[05:06] <muep> casper: is your problem your low resolution?
[05:06] <steve343> intel are evil eeevvviiiillll
[05:06] <casper> yip
[05:06] <muep> steve343: better to use package management
[05:06] <muep> casper: the problem isn't your video card driver, probably
[05:07] <steve343> ... why wouldnt it be?
[05:07] <casper> ok.... so what then
[05:07] <muep> casper: I guess your display isn't recognized right
[05:07] <muep> what display is it?
[05:08] <casper> im running 640*480,its the only res it alows me
[05:08] <muep> casper: yes, but it doesn't give you other resolutions because of the wrong settings
[05:08] <muep> ubuntu by default tries to autodetect it
[05:09] <jason__> is there a way to change the default username that scp/ssh use without changing users?
[05:09] <mwe> casper: read the /msg from ubotu
[05:09] <casper> im reading it now
[05:09] <casper> thanx
[05:09] <mwe> yw
[05:09] <muep> it ubuntu doesn't know the right settings, it will set them low to avoid breaking your monitor
[05:09] <mwe> jason__: why not just user@host.com ?
[05:10] <jason__> mwe: i'm using maven to build some stuff and the build scripts have scps all over the place
[05:10] <paryl> hello! when i try to compile a module, modprobe returns "Invalid module format"... what causes that?
[05:10] <steve343> i thought every moniter on earth did 800 x 600
[05:10] <mwe> jason__: the scripts suck if they don't let you specify a user name
[05:11] <casper> where do icopy all the text commands to
[05:11] <harfooz> hi folks -- I'm getting a GPG error with the us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates. Anyone else also getting that error? apt-get update does not resolve it.
[05:11] <muep> casper: tried terminal?
[05:12] <steve343> to be honest wouldnt it be easier to just install the graphics drviers i find it lets you change the res then
[05:12] <moot_> paryl: sounds like a problem with the entry points modprobe is expecting
[05:12] <muep> steve343: this is easy
[05:12] <mwe> jason__: well try USER=user in ~/.ssh/environment
[05:12] <muep> its's not good to install 3rd party software when there's no need
[05:12] <ismael> oi
[05:13] <jason__> mwe, is there an environment variable that I can just set?   I want this to be temporary
[05:13] <muep> the problem is just with autodetect
[05:13] <avalost> anyone using opera on dapper?
[05:13] <Xenguy> !tell harfooz about gpgerr
[05:13] <steve343> okey
[05:13] <steve343> a matter of preference i think
[05:13] <ismael> hello
[05:13] <mwe> jason__: I don't know but I don't think so
[05:13] <casper> its asking me for chispset?
[05:14] <casper> its given me 3 choices, im guessing u shouldnt guess
[05:14] <steve343> i would install the drivers if your a beginner
[05:14] <GnarusLeo> How can I get my iPod to show in the "vmware winxp" ?
[05:14] <muep> casper: what are you doing?
[05:14] <paryl> moot: a little help?  how do you mean?  i basically... apt-get'd the kernel headers for my kernel, and made links in usr/src to those... i'm not sure where else to go
[05:15] <bosco> does anyone have flash working in ubuntu
[05:15] <bosco> if so i need help getting it working
[05:15] <casper> i ran the text that does auto detect
[05:15] <harfooz> Xenguy, thanks -- that did the trick. What's causing the problem?
[05:15] <muep> casper: you only would have needed to edit a file a bit
[05:15] <muep> casper: what text?
[05:15] <casper> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[05:16] <casper> sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[05:16] <casper> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:16] <jobezone> bosco: have you followed the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[05:16] <steve343> oh come on
[05:16] <steve343> unless you know what your doing that really isnt a good idea
[05:16] <bosco> jobezone,  i have but i need flash 8
[05:16] <muep> casper: what options do you have?
[05:16] <paryl> moot: my kernel is 2.6.12-9-k7-smp and i noticed with the module compiles it puts the files in /lib/modules/2.6.12 instead of the kernel's actual module directory... is that indicitive of the prob?
[05:16] <makkk> hello all. I'm trying to rsync from a remote directory to my windows partition. it doesnt work (nothing gets written to it). It complains about operation not permitted. Using 'sudo' doesnt help. is there a way to do this or do i have to mirror the directory in my linux filesystem
[05:16] <casper> i128  i740 and i810
[05:17] <muep> casper: open another terminal and use lspci
[05:17] <muep> one of those should be there
[05:17] <casper> ok
[05:17] <muep> lspci gives you a list of your hardware
[05:17] <jobezone> bosco: mm, and the flash you get using that website is a previous version? I've never tried using a newer one..
[05:18] <GnarusLeo> How can I get my iPod to show in the "vmware winxp" ?
[05:18] <moot_> paryl: if you are manually compiling your kernel you need to update the linux symlink, copy the boot image to /boot and update grub etc
[05:18] <bosco> jobezone, well i know that when i follow those directions that it wont give me flash 8
[05:19] <joshritge1> which vnc client is the best for ubuntu?
[05:19] <raptros-v76> i dont think there is a flash 8 for any sort of linux system
[05:19] <paryl> moot: no, i'm compiling drivers for a pci card... i'm just using the kernel from the repositories
[05:19] <jobezone> makkk: can you write into the windows partition? Is it a NTFS fileystem it uses?
[05:20] <bosco> jobezone, i already have the firefox flash but i still cant view flash sites even older versoins i did what the site said aobut 2 weeks ago
[05:20] <GnarusLeo> How can I get my iPod to show in the "vmware winxp" ? Should I keep it mounted in linux?
[05:20] <makkk> jobezone, its a FAT partition. I have a dual boot setup. Some files I need access to in both windows and linux, so i've kept them on the windows side. I can usually write to it ok, most of the time it complains  but does it anyway
[05:20] <bosco> GnarusLeo, have you told vmware to use that usb drive windows to use it
[05:20] <piotrek> i need hept with ati drivers on my laptop
[05:21] <GnarusLeo> bosco, no, I dont know how
[05:21] <jobezone> bosco: using x64 ?
[05:22] <bosco> GnarusLeo,  have you used your cd drive in VMware eiher way log out of windows in vmware and there should be a settiing to change the ram and it should be in there click us usb drive
[05:22] <GnarusLeo> ok, Ill check
[05:23] <moot_> paryl: then just copy the modules produced in /lib/modules/<repository kernel> to /lib/modules/<current kernel>, then add those pci modules to your kernel autoload list
[05:23] <GnarusLeo> bosco, it says: usb-controller: present
[05:23] <paryl> moot: like a said, i've apt-get'd linux-image-2.6.12-9-k7-smp, and i'm running it, and i also got the headers.  i made a symbolic link /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-k7-smp
[05:23] <paryl> moot: i compile, and the drivers get installed to /lib/modules/2.6.12
[05:24] <jobezone> makkk: It's strange that sometimes it complains... are you using the option 'user' when mounting that partition (in /etc/fstab or if you do it manually)?
[05:24] <bosco> GnarusLeo, well then it should work you should be abte to tell windows to use that usb drive other than that i dont know enough to help you out more but i can sure try
[05:24] <paryl> moot: modprobe doesn't see them, so i copy the misc directory to /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7-smp and then get "invalid module format"
[05:24] <GnarusLeo> bosco, ok .. doy ou think I need to mount the ipod in linux? or should I umount it?
[05:24] <makkk> jobezone: I have
[05:24] <makkk> /dev/hda1       /media/windows  vfat    umask=000       0       0
[05:24] <moot_> paryl: so whats the problem?
[05:25] <paryl> moot: the invalid module format error... i don't know why it's happening, and until it's working the drivers won't load
[05:25] <bosco> GnarusLeo,  i would try both unmount it in linux and then try it and then mount it in  linux and try that
[05:25] <Steve^> Is writing to NTFS considered safe yet in Linux?
[05:26] <moot_> paryl: how are you compiling the drivers for your pci card?
[05:26] <Steve^> Should I go ahead and format my drive to fat32?
[05:26] <jobezone> makkk: you usually only  can write to that partition as root, right?(using sudo). Nevertheless, you're saying you can't write to it using rsyn even with sudo, so not having 'user' there is not the problem.
[05:26] <muep> Steve^: reading is safe
[05:26] <GnarusLeo> bosco, did both .. nothing works
[05:26] <casper> meup u are a genius, im missing some info refresh rate and verysync
[05:26] <Steve^> muep, I want more than that though.. I use Linux too much
[05:26] <casper> the graphic drivers are fine
[05:26] <muep> Steve^: write isn't really available
[05:26] <bosco> GnarusLeo, well it should work then i dont know why cuz i have itunes in my windows in vmware and it works fine with my ipod
[05:26] <makkk> jobezone, maybe the complaint from rsync will help you:
[05:26] <makkk> rsync: failed to set permissions on "/home/mak/Desktop/Courses/Research/src/code/code/runSegmentation.m~": Operation not permitted (1)
[05:27] <muep> casper: great that it works
[05:27] <GnarusLeo> bosco, how do you know if your ipod is connected?
[05:27] <jobezone> makkk: but I've never used rsync in my life :/ It's still strange that you get complains when writting into that partition, and then it works. What complains are those?
[05:27] <casper> thanx for the help
[05:27] <Steve^> muep, fat32 would allow linux and windows to happily share the partition?
[05:27] <muep> Steve^: you can get an ext2 driver for windows though
[05:27] <Steve^> oh, hmm
[05:27] <bosco> GnarusLeo, all i do is plug it in like in the real windows I tunes detects it
[05:27] <Steve^> that's an idea
[05:27] <muep> Steve^: fat32 works also ok
[05:27] <paryl> moot: make, make install
[05:27] <Steve^> muep is ext "superior" to fat32
[05:27] <makkk> jobezone, see how its failing to set permissions? maybe if it left the permissions alone it would be ok?
[05:28] <muep> Steve^: it sure is better
[05:28] <bosco> GnarusLeo, maybe i dont know all aobut your prob maybe that is why i  am not much help
[05:28] <GnarusLeo> bosco, ah great! it worked :) Thanks
[05:28] <bosco> GnarusLeo, no prob
[05:28] <muep> Steve^: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[05:28] <ubuntu_> can someone tell me how to configure logitech quickcam fusion?
[05:28] <waylandbill> Steve^, if it's that important to access an NTFS partition, why not use Topologilinux? It runs as a loopback device in a windows partition.
[05:28] <Steve^> thanks
[05:29] <bosco> GnarusLeo,  either way you should still be able to access it like a usb storage device in windows
[05:29] <bosco> vmware
[05:31] <ubuntu_> thanks
[05:31] <jobezone> makkk: and that happens, even if rsync is run with sudo? Then that's something about rsync's configuration. You'll have to learn how it handles things like these (permissions). Or you could try an alternative like Unison. There's a slim post about it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php
[05:31] <makkk> jobzone, thanks. I'll look at it
[05:32] <moot_> paryl: are you running this kernel? inux-image-2.6.12-9-k7-smp. check grub to make sure you are.
[05:32] <bosco> has anyone gotten flash working in ubuntu preferably flash 8
[05:33] <jobezone> bosco: if you're running Breezy, and not the 64bits version, and not been using extra repositories, installing programs like firefox yourself, those instructions should work.
[05:33] <jobezone> ok, I gotta go. Bye all
[05:33] <paryl> moot: yep... uname -a: Linux pbx-okc 2.6.12-9-k7-smp #1 SMP Mon Oct 10 13:58:43 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:33] <Stormchaser> A question : I've installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-base, but the package description isn't found in pkg-config list... Any ideas, why?
[05:34] <muep> Stormchaser: are there any *-dev packages available that you are missing?
[05:35] <moot_> paryl: then the only thing i can suggest is re-readin the compile instructions for your pci module and ensure you follow them to the letter
[05:36] <makkk> jobezone: you didnt specify the thread
[05:36] <Stormchaser> dammit... That -dev slipped me... Thanks :)
[05:36] <makkk> come back
[05:36] <muep> Stormchaser: np
[05:36] <raptros-v76> bosco, are you talking about the flash plugin? because i dont thing there is a flash 8 plugin for any linux x86 system
[05:37] <jcole> what's the ubuntu server meta pacakge name?
[05:37] <muep> bosco: flash 7 works well
[05:37] <paryl> moot: yeah, i've gone over it 15 times :)  i guess i'll check with the company that released the driver :\
[05:37] <HymnToLife> jcole> what d'you mean ?
[05:37] <muep> bosco: have you tried the flash package in the repos?
[05:38] <jcole> HymnToLife: isn't there a ubuntu server with server kernel and server packages?
[05:38] <bosco> muep,  i have not working from there
[05:38] <HymnToLife> hmm I don't think so
[05:38] <raptros-v76> look at this list http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/alternates/
[05:38] <HymnToLife> a server has the same kernel as a desktop
[05:38] <jcole> HymnToLife: no it doesn't
[05:39] <muep> bosco: and you are using dapper?
[05:39] <HymnToLife> you can do a "server istallation" which is basically the same thing as a standard installtion but without a GUI
[05:39] <jcole> linux-image-server - Linux kernel image on Server Equipment.
[05:39] <HymnToLife> jcole> yes it does
[05:39] <bosco> muep, yes i am using dapper
[05:39] <jcole> HymnToLife: ^^^
[05:39] <muep> bosco: might be an idea to just wait
[05:39] <HymnToLife> well, ihmm that's weird
[05:39] <muep> bosco: dapper isn't ready yet
[05:39] <HymnToLife> I think it's just for BIG servers with speial hardwre
[05:40] <bosco> muep, on what or who?
[05:40] <HymnToLife> like a dual-CPU, 16 GB of RAM, etc. :p
[05:40] <muep> bosco: wait until it's released
[05:40] <jcole> HymnToLife: it's for bigger addressable memory, disks, smp, etc.
[05:40] <muep> bosco: the plugin in the repos works for me though
[05:40] <bosco> bosco, i am not using dapper my bad i am using breezy not thinking
[05:40] <muep> even on dapper
[05:40] <joevandyk> I'm trying to git the ubuntu kernel, but no files are being pulled.  any ideas?
[05:41] <muep> bosco: did you install the free flash implementation?
[05:41] <bosco> muep, from where i think i id
[05:42] <muep> bosco: the free implementation isn't very good yet
[05:42] <bosco> muep, so what do i need to do or install to get it working
[05:42] <KenSentMe> is there a standard app for reading usenet on desktop, no mailclient like thunderbird?
[05:42] <muep> there is a package names flashplugin or something
[05:42] <muep> it contains the official flash plugin
[05:42] <muep> I didn't have to do other than just install it to get it working
[05:43] <raptros-v76> but its also version 7 too, isnt it?
[05:43] <muep> it is
[05:43] <bosco> muep, i can go here to install it but it doesnt work from here   http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[05:43] <muep> there is no flash 8 for linux
[05:43] <raptros-v76> the only version 8 released is for windows.@$#!ers
[05:43] <bosco> muep, no that is not true my friend uses gentoo and has it working fine
[05:43] <muep> flash 7 will have to do
[05:44] <muep> bosco: every distro I have used has flash 7
[05:44] <drazet_> How can i update ubuntu from 5.10 to 6.06?
[05:44] <raptros-v76> it would be very hard to get a windows plugin working on a linux program
[05:45] <muep> bosco: your friend may have mistaken...
[05:45] <bosco> muep, well either way he has flash 8 working in his gentoo on his laptop
[05:45] <raptros-v76> macromedia may very well be evil
[05:45] <bosco> muep, no there is a flash 8 we created and he can view it but i cant
[05:45] <bosco> eternalcry.com
[05:46] <skpl_> What is the location of the directory of C header files in ubuntu?
[05:46] <skpl_> i am tryin to install vmware and it wants to know
[05:46] <bliss1_> hi
[05:46] <muep> hi
[05:46] <joevandyk> Can someone try running git clone rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git ubuntu-2.6
[05:46] <joevandyk>  and tell me if it works (pulls down files)
[05:47] <raptros-v76> "/usr/include", but do you have the c library installed?
[05:47] <bliss1_> where is bootloader config?
[05:47] <bosco> so can i get dapper drake yer or not and if so how do i update
[05:47] <theine> skpl_, they reside in /usr/src, but you probably need to install a linux-header package
[05:47] <skpl_> raptros-v76: i believe so, i installed the gcc package
[05:47] <waylandbill> skpl_, /usr/include
[05:47] <skpl_> raptros-v76: would that include that?
[05:47] <muep> bosco: I have gentoo, too. There is only flash 7 available
[05:47] <raptros-v76> skpl_, it should.
[05:47] <bosco> muep, well then he did some mod and got it working i geuss i dont know
[05:47] <theine> waylandbill, i would guess that vmware wants to know where the kernel headers are...
[05:48] <skpl_> waylandbill: it asked me this:  Are yousure that /usr/include contains the header files associated with your running
[05:48] <muep> bosco: upgrade is easy, just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:48] <skpl_> kernel?
[05:48] <bosco> muep,  i can get dapper was my question
[05:48] <bosco> now
[05:48] <raptros-v76> ?
[05:48] <muep> bliss1_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:48] <theine> skpl_, it's not /usr/include, but /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:49] <waylandbill> theine, kernel headers seem more reasonable than C ones.
[05:49] <muep> bosco: I don't understand
[05:49] <raptros-v76> do you have the right kernel headers installed?
[05:49] <GnarusLeo> what does uname -r means?
[05:49] <raptros-v76> the system version
[05:49] <bosco> muep,  i know how to update i just want to know if dapper has come out and if i can update to dapper now
[05:49] <theine> skpl_, try "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[05:49] <GnarusLeo> aha :)
[05:49] <bliss1_> muep: ok menu.lst thanks
[05:49] <skpl_> theine: ok, thank you
[05:50] <muep> bosco: dapper has been available since the release of breezy
[05:50] <muep> it's just not yet ready
[05:50] <skpl_> theine: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.15-20-386
[05:50] <GnarusLeo> is the dapper thingy stable and all now?
[05:50] <muep> dapper is in beta now
[05:50] <skpl_> theine: this is what the program wants: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.15-20-386
[05:50] <GnarusLeo> ok
[05:50] <skpl_> er, nm
[05:50] <bosco> muep, i am lost now muep when will it be on the ubuntu.com page
[05:50] <skpl_> theine: here, http://pastebin.com/685126 can you look and tell me what you think?
[05:50] <Corvix> anyone else had some problems with suspend to disk in dapper?
[05:51] <muep> bosco: first of june
[05:51] <muep> then
[05:52] <skpl_> theine: my usr/src dir is empty, so im sure i do not have them
[05:52] <bosco> muep, well then if i wanted to update now then were do i point my repos to and other stuff
[05:52] <raptros-v76> what is dapper for anyway?
[05:52] <skpl_> theine: canyou help me out?
[05:52] <muep> bosco: change every 'breezy' to 'dapper'
[05:53] <bosco> muep, ok so then is it stable right now or is it stable enough like enlightenment 17 cuz i run that as my windows manager
[05:53] <raptros-v76> skpl_: wait, what?
[05:53] <muep> bosco: it's quite stable
[05:53] <muep> there just are a lot of updates
[05:53] <muep> with dsl it is ok
[05:53] <bosco> muep, that is cool thank
[05:54] <suyog> can someone please tell me how i can change the font color of my desktop icons?
[05:54] <skpl_> raptros-v76: the package with the headers i need does not exist, i need to know where they are so i can install vmware, my usr/src dir is empty
[05:54] <bosco> well i will be back later
[05:54] <suyog> how can I change the font color of my desktop icons? Someone, please??
[05:54] <beeman> how about ubuntu on ibm r52 ?
[05:55] <mathieu> skpl_: you don't find the matching kernel-headers package?
[05:55] <waylandbill> I'd install dapper, but I'm scared of something breaking.
[05:55] <raptros-v76> isnt the package name "linux-header-(uname -r)"
[05:55] <skpl_> mathieu: no, aptitude did not find it
[05:55] <suyog>  how can I change the font color of my desktop icons? Someone, please??
[05:55] <raptros-v76> "linux-headers-(uname -r)"
[05:56] <mathieu> skpl_: which name should it have in your opinion?
[05:56] <skpl_> i do not have an opinion on the matter
[05:56] <skpl_> are you being helpful?
[05:56] <waylandbill> raptros-v76, it's always the easiest things. :-)
[05:56] <raptros-v76> nm
[05:56] <suyog>  how can I change the font color of my desktop icons? Someone, please??
[05:57] <raptros-v76> wait, what kernel version do you have
[05:57] <johanna> moi
[05:57] <skpl_> raptros-v76: E: Couldn't find package linux-header-2.6.15-20-386
[05:57] <skpl_> that is my kernel version
[05:57] <johanna> mit kuuluu?
[05:57] <skpl_> according to uname -a
[05:57] <skpl_> er, uname -r
[05:57] <suyog>  how can I change the font color of my desktop icons?
[05:57] <johanna> onko iida kiva
[05:58] <raptros-v76> umm, is there a kernel headers package for that?
[05:58] <skpl_> evidently not
[05:58] <raptros-v76> how do you have 2.6.15-20?
[05:58] <raptros-v76> what system are you using?
[05:59] <raptros-v76> distro, whatver
[05:59] <skpl_> ubuntu.
[05:59] <HymnToLife> dapper ?
[05:59] <skpl_> yes, dapper
[05:59] <raptros-v76> what version
[05:59] <raptros-v76> oh, ok
[05:59] <Lhademmor> I've been thinking... Is GNU some kind of Unix? They seem very much alike.
[05:59] <Lhademmor> ( ;-) )
[05:59] <raptros-v76> well i dont no, i mean, ive got breezy still
[06:01] <waylandbill> Lhademmor, hehe.... Gnu's not unix dammit.
[06:01] <joevandyk> Can someone run git clone rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git ubuntu-2.6
[06:01] <joevandyk>  and tell me if it works?
[06:02] <Lhademmor> Ahh... I see now. lol
[06:02] <skpl_> raptros-v76: synaptci has a package with headers for 2.6.15 21, is there a kernel newer than minje?
[06:03] <EO_> Would Ubuntu 5.10 run on a Power Mac 5260/100?
[06:03] <ice_1963> 2.6.16-1-
[06:03] <skpl_> raptros-v76: or i should say, do you think vmware would use those headers?
[06:04] <waylandbill> skpl_, yes I'm thinking vmware would.
[06:05] <raptros-v76> skple_, well, i dont really know what vmware is, i mean, i had enough trouble getting my system to work on a acer travelmate, and i havent had time to screw aorund with anything else
[06:07] <morose> hellllewww
[06:07] <GnaLeo> ping?
[06:07] <waylandbill> raptros-v76, it lets you run virtual machines.
[06:07] <ice_1963> lo
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> EO_: I haven't done it personally, but I don't know why not.
[06:08] <raptros-v76> oh ok
[06:08] <waylandbill> it's slow though. better to find a 3 year old machine someone's throwing out and install the other system on it.
[06:08] <raptros-v76> ok i guess, why would you want vmware then
[06:09] <EO_> tonyyarusso : hrm, ok.  it mentions a 64-bit kernel, but the 603 is only a 32-bit CPU.  Also, this machine only has 64MB RAM.  That might be a bit low.
[06:09] <HymnToLife> waylandbill> the only use I found to VMWare is to take screenshots during OS installs for tutorials
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> EO_: Yes, that is on the low end.  You might want to look into using XFCE or Fluxbox for your graphical environment rather than Gnome.
[06:10] <waylandbill> HymnToLife, hmm.. that's an interesting use.
[06:10] <HymnToLife> especially for $300 softwarre :D
[06:10] <EO_> tonyyarusso : does the install let you squeeze into 800MB HD? :)
[06:11] <waylandbill> that's what I mean, even if you can't find a freebie computer, you could easily find one used for way less than 300 bones.
[06:11] <HymnToLife> yep I agree
[06:11] <skpl_> raptros-v76: i do not think it wants the linux header files, it wants the c header files for my kernel, do you know where thos emight be?
[06:11] <HymnToLife> but you can't take screenshots :D
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> EO_: The default install is about 2.1GB.  However, if you choose the "server" option, that will be more like 500MB I think, maybe less, and you should be able to get one of the two mentioned above or any of the dozens of lighter ones in on top of that.  You can also remove packages after the server install that you don't need to free up more room.
[06:12] <waylandbill> put the monitor on your scanner during the install. ;-)
[06:12] <waylandbill> seriously though, that is a neat use for it.
[06:13] <HymnToLife> gotta try it, might be fun :p
[06:13] <HymnToLife> some ppl us their camera, it's plain ugly
[06:13] <joevandyk> Can someone check to see if they can git the kernel sources?
[06:14] <waylandbill> HymnToLife, I was thinking a camera would do it with an LCD, but it may not be pretty
[06:15] <skpl_> does anyone know where the c header files for the kernel are? vmware wants to know
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> waylandbill, HymnToLife: I've done the camera/LCD thing - it's okay but not great.
[06:15] <bosco> where are my update files in ubuntu i can not think straight and i am lost normamally i know i
[06:15] <skpl_> vmware: maybe i should ask you
[06:15] <_jim_> hi everyone
[06:16] <skpl_> vmware: where are the c header files for the kernel used by vmware located? my usrsrc dir is empty
[06:16] <Wass|> skpl_: wich kernel version do you have ?   uname -a
[06:16] <maxx_730> uname -r
[06:16] <maxx_730> that would be
[06:17] <Wass|> same thing.. almost..
[06:17] <skpl_> Wass|: 2.6.15
[06:17] <bosco> were are the files that i need to change from breezy to dapper
[06:17] <skpl_> bosco: sudp apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:17] <GnaLeo> ping?
[06:17] <bosco> skpl_,  then type dapper
[06:18] <Hattori> who can say me difference between: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:18] <bosco> skpl_, cuz when i do that it says 0 dist update
[06:18] <bosco> s
[06:18] <skpl_> bosco: actually you have to change all instances of breezy in your sources.lst file to dapper
[06:18] <Wass|> skpl_: spo0nman apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15
[06:18] <djk> What is a good snmp log program that will handle Linksys logging?
[06:18] <skpl_> bosco: then do it
[06:18] <bosco> skpl_, where is that sources.lst file
[06:18] <bosco> that is what i want to kwno
[06:18] <skpl_> bosco: in etc.apt
[06:18] <waylandbill> /etc/apt/
[06:18] <bosco> skpl_, thanks
[06:18] <skpl_> Wass|: i already tried
[06:18] <HymnToLife> and it's source.list, not .lst
[06:18] <skpl_> Wass|: no such package
[06:19] <skpl_> Wass|: besides, it wants the c headers not the linux headers
[06:19] <MarcN|keynote> djk: snmptrap can catch traps.  Default is to dump to a log, but can pipe to a script for say adding to a db
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> Hattori: update reloads your sources to know what's available, upgrade installs all new versions available in the reloaded list, dist-upgrade does that with smarter satisfying of new dependencies so new versions can be upgraded to without problems.
[06:19] <Wass|> skpl_: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-10 ?
[06:19] <Hattori> k thanks
[06:19] <skpl_> Wass|: that is not my kernel version, i am 2.6.15 20
[06:20] <Hattori> tonyyarusso, i'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/683195
[06:20] <waylandbill> skpl_, it wants the headers for the kernel. the C just means that the contents of the header files are in C.
[06:20] <skpl_> Wass|: besides, it does not want the linux headers
[06:20] <Hattori> followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP but still got same problem
[06:20] <Wass|> skpl_: use synaptic to see what u can get
[06:20] <skpl_> waylandbill: i got this error: The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-21" is an existing directory, but it
[06:20] <skpl_> does not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.
[06:21] <Wass|> weird
[06:21] <waylandbill> otherwise your referring to the standard C library, which I know vmware doesn't want.
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Hattori: Not really sure, maybe try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure libmysqltcl'?
[06:21] <skpl_> waylandbill: any ideas
[06:21] <Wass|> skpl_: paste me what It asks
[06:22] <loststar4545> how do i fnd out what  version nvidia driver i am using
[06:22] <Hattori> it's not a repository package
[06:22] <Hattori> tonyyarusso, it's not a repository package
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> Oh.
[06:23] <skpl_> Wass|: http://pastebin.com/685180
[06:23] <waylandbill> skpl_, that error sounds like it didn't find headers in that directory
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> Hattori: I've never messed with MySql, so someone else might know more.
[06:23] <skpl_> waylandbill: that is what i was thinking.
[06:24] <Wass|> skpl_: lemme check...
[06:24] <themachine> after compiling a C++ file in GCC, how do I run it?
[06:25] <robokop> when i used KDE kate was my main gui text editor for coding, does sb now a nice gtk alternative for that
[06:25] <_jim_> hey please someone , i need some help about installing applications through console and then , how to make them appear in the menu
[06:25] <waylandbill> themachine, ./programname (assuming your in the same dir)
[06:26] <HymnToLife> robokop> gvim
[06:26] <_jim_> waylandbill thanks
[06:26] <themachine> G++ didn't create any executables
[06:26] <themachine> I'm not sure why
[06:26] <waylandbill> themachine, did you get errors?
[06:27] <MarcN|keynote> themachine: is there a new a.out file?
[06:27] <_jim_> waylandbill it says permission denied even im logged as root
[06:27] <themachine> there were no errors
[06:27] <waylandbill> themachine, and did you specifed output name?
[06:27] <themachine> no,
[06:27] <themachine> I'm new to GCC
[06:27] <MarcN|keynote> themachine: what is the compile line?
[06:27] <waylandbill> _jim_, chmod +x
[06:27] <therunnyman> The way I was going to go about upgrading to Dapper is to do a claen install, then add Breezy's /home to it.  Any forseeable problems?
[06:28] <_jim_> waylandbill chmod: too few arguments
[06:28] <themachine> g++ foo.cpp
[06:28] <waylandbill> _jim_, sorry with the name of the program to become executable after that.
[06:29] <waylandbill> themachine, g++ foo.cpp foo
[06:29] <MarcN|keynote> themachine: there should be a a.out file in that directory.  Run that.  ( ./a.out)
[06:29] <_jim_> waylandbill hmm still got the permission denied
[06:29] <tdn> How do I make gdesklets startup every time I start Gnome? I only want the desklets to startup - not the gdesklet manager.
[06:29] <waylandbill> _jim_, say again what you're trying to do? I think I'm confused
[06:29] <_jim_> waylandbill i wanna install something by terminal... its tar.gz
[06:30] <waylandbill> themachine, sorry... g++ foo.cpp -o foo
[06:30] <tdn> _jim_, what are you trying to install? Are you compiling something from source?
[06:30] <waylandbill> _jim_, oh.. ok I was thinking you were asking something else.
[06:30] <waylandbill> _jim_, that source code?
[06:31] <_jim_> waylandbill , tdn i think its not source
[06:31] <_jim_> binary...
[06:31] <waylandbill> untar it with tar zvxf name.tar.gz
[06:31] <bosco> allright i changed every breezy word to dapper in my sources file and it wont work now
[06:31] <bosco> upgrading
[06:31] <bosco> i haave never done a distro update like this
[06:31] <bosco> before
[06:31] <waylandbill> it'll go to a subdirectory and usually instructions will be inside depending on it's author
[06:31] <MarcN|keynote> bosco:  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:32] <themachine> ah thanks waylandbill
[06:32] <_jim_> errors... about something not permitted it says
[06:32] <bosco> how do i change my sources files to upgrade to dapper
[06:32] <waylandbill> _jim_, you don't have permission to write to the directory you're in?
[06:32] <_jim_> waylandbill im root
[06:33] <MarcN|keynote> bosco: you said you changed all breezy references in source.list to dapper.  Now do the update followed by a dist-upgrade
[06:33] <waylandbill> _jim_, what's the error?
[06:33] <_jim_> Cannot change ownership to uid 1000, gid 1000: Operation not permitted
[06:34] <usr13> What cd burning software does Ubuntu use?  (I have a friend asking about it.)
[06:34] <bosco> MarcN|keynote, every word in there is now dapper that used to be breezy and it still says error on some of the stuff
[06:34] <EvilGrin> usr13, I installed gnomebaker for burning cds.
[06:34] <MarcN|keynote> bosco: the errors will give you a hint on the problem.
[06:34] <bosco> MarcN|keynote, it tells me to run a sudo apt-get update
[06:34] <waylandbill> _jim_, uid 1000. doesn't sound like you are root.
[06:34] <rambo3> EvilGrin, use k3b
[06:34] <bosco> and i do
[06:34] <AngelWings> hi all
[06:34] <AngelWings> i have a question
[06:34] <AngelWings> can so help me
[06:34] <AngelWings> ?
[06:34] <usr13> (I am a soon to be, but not yet a Ubuntu user.)
[06:34] <_jim_> waylandbill lol i am
[06:35] <_jim_> waylandbill should i sudo too ?
[06:35] <EvilGrin> rambo3, I dislike clogging my system up with kdelibs
[06:35] <usr13>  EvilGrin: so I should advise him to do "apt-get install gnomebaker"
[06:35] <waylandbill> _jim_, who owns the file and who owns the pwd?
[06:35] <usr13>  EvilGrin: so I should advise him to do "apt-get install gnomebaker"?
[06:36] <_jim_> waylandbill im trying to install putty
[06:36] <rambo3> EvilGrin, ok
[06:36] <_jim_> waylandbill i own the file , there is no password for that
[06:36] <Wass|> skpl_: In package manager select 'kernel-devel' package. Make sure you are selecting correct kernel-devel package - there is i586 and i686 package, and you must install one which matches architecture of kernel package you have already installed (most probably i686).
[06:36] <Wass|> thats what I found...
[06:36] <usr13> He was looking at "CD creator" that comes up on natulis, I think, and did not know what to do with it.
[06:37] <_jim_> waylandbill i now see a folder with the files exracted there
[06:37] <_jim_> waylandbill what i should do ? cd to that dir ?
[06:37] <waylandbill> _jim_, when you say you are "root", did you create an initial user called "root"?
[06:37] <_jim_> waylandbill both user and also connected as root in terminal
[06:38] <_jim_> waylandbill im now in the directory which contains the files exracted
[06:38] <digs> anyone have problems of high load using fglrx?
[06:38] <waylandbill> _jim_, cause without doing a sudo you had a uid of 1000. The root superuser is uid 0.
[06:39] <digs> I used to, for an example, when I moves the mouse cursor over the desktop, the processor loads about 10%
[06:39] <waylandbill> _jim_, ok, you see an INSTALL or README file?
[06:39] <skpl_> can someone help me with this? http://pastebin.com/685219
[06:39] <skpl_> i am having trouble instaling vmware
[06:39] <XiXaQ> how stable is the 6.06 version?
[06:39] <skpl_> Wass|: ok, thank you
[06:39] <Wass|> skpl_: sorry :P
[06:39] <_jim_> waylandbill yea readme
[06:40] <skpl_> Wass|: there is no such package in my synaptic
[06:40] <ccooke_> XiXaQ: It's not been released yet. Don't run it on anything production, expect some problems... That said, it's running fine on this laptop and my one at home
[06:40] <_jim_> waylandbill i see that its the source...
[06:40] <ccooke_> (Fine, except that the sound hasn't worked in the last three kernels, anyway)
[06:40] <Wass|> skpl_: U need to change your source.list maybe
[06:40] <_jim_> waylandbill how i can compile it ?
[06:41] <skpl_> Wass|: can you show me what the entry in my sources.list should be?
[06:41] <twa1296> hi i'm on dapper and after today's update i have window borders or titlebars anymore, any ideas?
[06:41] <Wass|> skpl_: u are on dapper ?
[06:41] <twa1296> no borders and titlebar, sorry
[06:41] <skpl_> Wass|: yes
[06:41] <XiXaQ> ccooke_, I'm a newbie ubuntu user. Perhaps I should wait for a stable version?
[06:41] <HymnToLife> XiXaQ> Breezy is pretty stable I think
[06:41] <Wass|> skpl_: whew :P shouw me what u got
[06:42] <XiXaQ> HymnToLife, think that's the one I downloaded. 5.10?
[06:42] <darkomen_> twa1296, try executing "metacity" on a terminal
[06:42] <IcemanV9> XiXaQ: breezy is stable release; dapper is development release (for not 'til June)
[06:42] <Mon> every OpenGL related application segfaults for me. does anyone know a way to find out why?
[06:42] <waylandbill> _jim_, is there a configure script?
[06:43] <_jim_> waylandbill config.c
[06:43] <_jim_> waylandbill that ?
[06:43] <waylandbill> _jim_, I asked about if your initial user was "root" when you installed cause I'm not sure what that does. :-)
[06:43] <IcemanV9> *(for not long 'til June)
[06:43] <XiXaQ> IcemanV9, are those general names, or do they change from version to version?
[06:43] <matthew_w> Hey - I'm having this problem where for some reason I can't unmount my /dev/hdb1, it says "device is busy" when the device clearly is not busy.
[06:43] <IcemanV9> XiXaQ: 5.10 = Breezy; 6.06 = Dapper
[06:43] <ccooke_> XiXaQ: That's sensible, yes. Wait until it's released - won't be long, now
[06:43] <skpl_> Wass|: http://pastebin.com/685227
[06:43] <waylandbill> _jim_, no it'd be "configure"
[06:43] <twa1296> darkomen_ tks
[06:44] <XiXaQ> ok. I'm rebooting with the live cd, just to make sure I can get back on the internet, cause that's important. :)
[06:44] <_jim_> waylandbill in the dir unix it has a file MakeFile
[06:44] <XiXaQ> brb -- hopefully.
[06:44] <Zmogeliukasss> hi :)
[06:44] <_jim_> waylandbill makefile.gtk
[06:44] <IcemanV9> XiXaQ: good plan
[06:44] <matthew_w> Any ideas?
[06:44] <waylandbill> _jim_, you'll want to make the makefile if it doesn't have a configure script.
[06:45] <skpl_> Wass|: still there?
[06:45] <ketsugi> Is there a way to give Nautilus support for more image/video formats for preview purposes?
[06:46] <Wass|> skpl_: I checked your source... It seems to be fine
[06:46] <Mon> ketsugi: i think that means giving totem support for it since totem-video-thumbnailer (or something) is being used for that
[06:46] <skpl_> Wass|: i thought it was.
[06:46] <Wass|> skpl_: why do you use a beta version as an primary os ?  it's still unstable
[06:46] <ketsugi> even for image types? like PSD and ICO for example
[06:46] <skpl_> Wass|: what os do you use?
[06:46] <matthew_w> I've looked at every concievable process and the drive is absolutely NOT busy - Why won't it let me unmount it?
[06:46] <skpl_> Wass|: i find it much more stable than any windows release
[06:46] <_jim_> waylandbill i tried to run : ./makefile.gtk but it says root@10:/media/sda5/putty-0.58/unix# ./makefile.gtk
[06:46] <_jim_> bash: ./makefile.gtk: Permission denied
[06:46] <Wass|> skpl_: breezy . it runs fine for me (vmware)
[06:47] <Mon> ketsugi: those should work
[06:47] <Wass|> I mean.. breezy with vmware :)
[06:47] <ketsugi> I can't preview ICO files at the moment
[06:47] <waylandbill> _jim_, make makefile.gtk
[06:47] <_jim_> make: Nothing to be done for `makefile.gtk'.
[06:48] <Mon> ketsugi: hmm ico == bmp afaik. but i don't know how to add the filetype. maybe you could check gconf-editor?
[06:49] <skpl_> Wass|: im sure it will work in dapper once i get the header files. i believe i found the package you were speaking f on the web
[06:49] <Wass|> skpl_: I'm sure youll get other problems soon or later..  Dapper with be release 1th june
[06:50] <waylandbill> _jim_, sorry... make -f makefile.gtk
[06:50] <Wass|> for the moment, I use Breezy with automatix project ... it's just perfect for me :P
[06:50] <ompaul> !automatix
[06:50] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[06:50] <skpl_> i heard automatix  was unsafe
[06:51] <Wass|> rumors ..
[06:51] <sk8az> i used automatix - it's slow, but very good
[06:51] <sk8az> i used automatix - it's slow, but very good
[06:51] <ompaul> Wass|, check this channels logs
[06:51] <_jim_> waylandbill http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12978
[06:51] <ompaul> have not seen one for a while but on a regular basis it kills machines
[06:51] <Wass|> there's nothing usafe with a program that istalls softwares for you :P
[06:52] <skpl_> Wass|: takes all the fun out of computing
[06:52] <sk8az> even though i am new, i can recognise good soft from lame, so IMHO - automatix is Good
[06:52] <Wass|> ompaul: if it kills machine it would never been approved as a project on ubuntu forums
[06:52] <ompaul> hehe
[06:52] <ompaul> read this channels logs, you were lucky
[06:52] <waylandbill> _jim_, looking now... curious... command line ssh doesn't do what you need?
[06:53] <ompaul> so here is a simple thing, do what youwant to your own machine, do not suggest that software to anyone in this channel
[06:53] <Wass|> what's the meaning of this chan log :P
[06:53] <ompaul> thanks
[06:53] <ompaul> logs
[06:53] <ompaul> !logs
[06:53] <ubotu> logs are at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[06:53] <_jim_> waylandbill no..
[06:53] <sk8az> can i write cds/dvds in ubuntu (5.10 on VMWARE)?
[06:54] <skpl_> Wass|: i installed the package you suggested, but what is the location of the files vmware needs?
[06:54] <waylandbill> _jim_, ok. you are missing the development packages for gtk that the source depends on to compile
[06:54] <ompaul> Wass|, I think you should go back to around the start of this distro version to find more hits
[06:54] <_jim_> waylandbill lets forget all this
[06:54] <_jim_> waylandbill i installed putty by synaptic too
[06:54] <_jim_> waylandbill but i dont know how to place it on app menuy
[06:54] <_jim_> menu*
[06:54] <Wass|> ompaul: think alone :P  I know what I need to know
[06:55] <waylandbill> _jim_, use "Add Application" to add it to the menu
[06:55] <loststar4545> when i am running a game like wow is the a way to shut down everythingg in the background to make wow run faster
[06:55] <ompaul> well tell me will you be here for the next person with a broken machine who used it?
[06:55] <skpl_> does ANYONE know where the c header files for the linux kernel vmware needs to install are located at?
[06:56] <sk8az> wass| : you are very nice, talking liek that to others that help : Wass| -- ompaul: think alone :P  I know what I need to know
[06:56] <pax> anone knows of any web-hosting providers that support ubuntu in any way, shape or form?
[06:56] <skpl_> i am getting this erro http://pastebin.com/685219
[06:56] <Wass|> sk8az: whatever..
[06:56] <ompaul> skpl_, they should be in /usr/src - have you installed gcc 3.4?
[06:56] <matthew_w> No matter what I do I simply cannot get write access on vfat
[06:56] <waylandbill> pax, what do you mean by 'support'?
[06:57] <_jim_> waylandbill i installed by synaptic putty but i cant find it by search in add apps
[06:57] <ompaul> matthew_w, system administration disks may help, do you as a user have access to the mount location
[06:57] <sk8az> can i burn cds/dvds in ubuntu (5.10 on VMWARE) by any software?
[06:57] <skpl_> ompaul: actually i have a newer version of gcc installed
[06:57] <pax> waylandbill: like, love, heart, cherish, donate to any community projects ..etc
[06:57] <freezey> new to pure-ftpd if anyone can assit
[06:57] <skpl_> 4:4.0.3-1
[06:57] <waylandbill> pax, oh. ok. :-)
[06:58] <skpl_> ompaul: but the header files are not in usr/src
[06:58] <matthew_w> ompaul; yes and no.  When I mount it with fstab, no.  But, I created a folder in my desktop called mount, so then I did sudo mount -rw /dev/hdb1 /home/matthew/Desktop/mount and still no write access.
[06:58] <ompaul> skpl_, for the kernel you will need to do this: sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.4
[06:58] <waylandbill> pax, it was just an ambiguous word and I didn't know what you were asking.. lol
[06:58] <ompaul> matthew_w,  wherever it is mounted right now, ls -l the directory
[06:59] <ompaul> pax,  I have a ubuntu vm box from bytemark.co.uk
[06:59] <_jim_> waylandbill where the installed app is supposed to be located ?
[06:59] <waylandbill> _jim_, I'm looking in synaptic for the properties and seeing what files it installs.
[06:59] <pax> ompaul: thanks
[06:59] <skpl_> ompaul: where are the files i needed installed to?
[06:59] <ompaul> pax, but they installed root on it :-(
[06:59] <XiXaQ> damn. Error on CD.
[06:59] <matthew_w> ompaul; it's all root
[06:59] <pax> hehehe
[06:59] <waylandbill> _jim_, this system is a P2-300 snail.. :-D
[06:59] <_jim_> waylandbill  :)
[07:00] <skpl_> ompaul: vmware suggests that they should be in usr/src
[07:00] <XiXaQ> I have AMD64. Do I HAVE to use 64 bit Ubuntu, or can I use i386 version?
[07:00] <ompaul> matthew_w, make the group users own it chown
[07:00] <skpl_> ompaul: http://pastebin.com/685219
[07:00] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, ubuntu is the shit :)
[07:00] <matthew_w> ompaul; k, one sec.
[07:00] <_jim_> what is the best anti virus software for linux ?
[07:00] <ompaul> ohh well
[07:00] <waylandbill> _jim_, oops. I forgot it only tells after installing. you should be able to look at the properties and install files and find it though
[07:01] <ompaul> by the way it was for lanugage not opinion
[07:01] <poppy> #
[07:01] <matthew_w> ompaul; that was a good opinion, it's some kind of north american slang.
[07:01] <waylandbill> _jim_, the one that does what you want and need.
[07:01] <matthew_w> lol
[07:01] <poppy> hello
[07:01] <XiXaQ> do you need antivirus in linux? I looked at the wildlist just a few days ago. I didn't see any viruses for linux.
[07:01] <freezey> whats wrong with north america?
[07:01] <skpl_> ompaul: any ideas?
[07:01] <_jason> freezey: <buffer overflow>
[07:01] <matthew_w> Nothing; just clarifying the opinion.
[07:01] <sk8az> amerika is evil
[07:01] <XiXaQ> freezey, internet isn't fast enough yet for such a long list. :)
[07:01] <_jim_> waylandbill but i already had installed it
[07:02] <ompaul> skpl_, just a moment
[07:02] <_jim_> waylandbill im in putty properties right now....
[07:02] <freezey> america is evil? hahaha
[07:02] <_jim_> waylandbill in synaptic
[07:02] <freezey> and why is that
[07:02] <_jason> !offtopic
[07:02] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:02] <rmn30> Mon: did you get your opengl problem fixed?
[07:02] <rmn30> seems like i have the same one
[07:02] <freezey> _jason: i had a question and no one answered it
[07:02] <skpl_> freezey: according to the bible the united states is the eagle
[07:02] <XiXaQ> I have an AMD64. Do I HAVE to use 64 bit ubuntu? I only have the i386 version.
[07:03] <_jason> freezey: just mentioning that there if -offtopic to discuss the evilness of america
[07:03] <_jason> s/if/is
[07:03] <waylandbill> _jim_, yeah but I didn't... you should see putty as one of the files including its path
[07:03] <matthew_w> ompaul; still no write access.
[07:03] <ompaul> skpl_, >> sudo apt-get install linux-tree-`uname -r`<<
[07:03] <poppy> please could anyone let me know a good firewall to use for ubuntu?
[07:03] <freezey> ompaul: don';t you have to exec the drive?
[07:03] <_jason> !firewall
[07:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[07:03] <matthew_w> poppy;  sudo apt-get install firestarter
[07:03] <waylandbill> _jim_, then you can use that path in "Add Application" to make an icon
[07:04] <ompaul> freezey,  no
[07:04] <cowboyway> Hobbsee: i have found a utility called  checkinstall that creates  .tgz packages and makes much easier for slackware installing using pkgtool. Is there anything simular for ubuntu ?
[07:04] <ompaul> matthew_w, this works for me
[07:04] <sk8az> freezey : becouse Gates is american, he is not a programmer as everybody thinks - he is a buisnessman, and don't get me started on bush ;] ] 
[07:04] <poppy> thank you!
[07:04] <matthew_w> ompaul; x-x
[07:04] <skpl_> ompaul: E: Couldn't find package linux-tree-2.6.15-20-386
[07:04] <ompaul> matthew_w, /dev/hdb3       /two            ext3    defaults        0       2 drwxr-xr-x    5 ompaul ompaul  4096 2006-04-24 22:16 two
[07:05] <freezey> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[07:05] <freezey> anyone know what that is comin up?
[07:05] <ompaul> skpl_, you on breezy?
[07:05] <skpl_> ompaul: dapper
[07:05] <ompaul> skpl_, sorry dapper?
[07:05] <skpl_> yes.
[07:05] <Mon> rmn30: nope
[07:05] <cowboyway> sk8az:  I agree completely about both
[07:05] <Mon> rmn30: interesting, what videocard do you have?
[07:05] <sk8az> heh ;] 
[07:06] <matthew_w> ompaul; already done, doesn't work.  When I try to remove something it says "read only filesystem"
[07:06] <poppy> does anyone know how to mount a second hard drive onto ubuntu?
[07:06] <matthew_w> poppy; depends on where the hard drive is
[07:06] <waylandbill> cowboyway, not that I know of.
[07:06] <slackern> !mount
[07:06] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[07:06] <matthew_w> poppy;  sudo mount /dev/hda1 (where a is the first hard drive, and 1 is the first partition) /home/poppy/whatever (where you want the drive to appear)
[07:06] <cowboyway> waylandbill: is there a place to get packages for ubuntu that can be easily uninstalled ?
[07:07] <Flannel> cowboyway: all packages in ubuntu can be easily uninstalled.
[07:07] <waylandbill> cowboyway, binary ones
[07:07] <sk8az> PS. America is evil, becouse it is poluting the world with Mc'Donalds & Coca Cola, or some such $^&@
[07:07] <skpl_> ompaul: Your search - ubuntu package linux-tree-2.6.15-20-386 - did not match any documents.
[07:07] <ompaul> skpl_, sorry leave out the i386 part
[07:07] <poppy> thanks!
[07:08] <skpl_> ompaul: ru messin wit me
[07:08] <waylandbill> cowboyway, it's not really a source based distro, although the source is available.
[07:08] <cowboyway> sk8az:american does have plenty of bad stuff in it..mostly from greed
[07:08] <babo> Hi guys, can someone pls explain to me the difference between gcc -f and -W  ... I've read all the docs but they don't really say much ...
[07:08] <poppy> thanks very much for all your help ^^
[07:08] <cowboyway> waylandbill: ok, i did not realize that
[07:08] <Mez> Seveas, Ping
[07:09] <skpl_> ompaul: the only package lke that ic an find is linux-tree-2.6.10 34
[07:09] <_jim_> waylandbill sorry was brb
[07:09] <cowboyway> so sounds binaries are used for most part ? can they be easily uninstalled ?
[07:09] <_jim_> waylandbill i see now... let me try
[07:09] <matthew_w> Also, why is it that when I use fsck, it will say "cluster summary wrong" correct 1, don't correct, 2   and I type 1 and hit enter and it says "leaving file system unchanged" then exits?
[07:09] <sk8az> yes... americans are pigs, greedy pigs, if i had one wish in the world it would be to drop a thermoneuclear bomb on america
[07:09] <skpl_> sk8az: sh
[07:09] <Flannel> cowboyway: yeah, installation is just as easy as removal
[07:09] <_jim_> waylandbill which extension it has ? i see many directories
[07:10] <Iceyes> what to do when my sudo has crashed ?
[07:10] <cowboyway> flannel: cool...thank you
[07:10] <waylandbill> cowboyway, one of the things I like about it is the binary packages. saves me time.
[07:10] <HymnToLife> Iceyes> what's the problem with sudo ?
[07:10] <waylandbill> _jim_, no extension.
[07:10] <ketsugi> can anyone help me figure this out: I want to use imagemagick's convert to thumbnail a .ico into a PNG, but I don't want it to generate all the different-res PNGs, just a specific one. Any idea how to do that?
[07:11] <cowboyway> sk8az: there is no need for such hostility, i too do not like Bill Gates or support the republican adminstration who is abusing this country
[07:11] <_jim_> waylandbill ok finally made a launcher for that :D thx
[07:11] <ompaul> matthew_w, what kind if device is it
[07:11] <sk8az> but it would be funny ;DD
[07:11] <_jim_> waylandbill now , how i could add it in menu ?
[07:11] <skpl_> does ANYONE know where the c header files for the linux kernel vmware needs to install are located at?
[07:11] <Iceyes> HymnToLife of some reason it crashed and i cant make stuff as usual, i tried to add a new admin user under recovery mode but still dont work
[07:11] <cowboyway> waylandbill: that si good to know ....long as the packages i need are found in binary format
[07:12] <Zarephath> Hi all...I don't understand the difference between "auto" and "noauto" as coverd in the man page for mount....I think maybe I am confusing this with how Ubuntu detects a disk has been inserted(for example) in the cdrom drive and it automatically appears on the desktop
[07:12] <cowboyway> sn8az: no it would not be funny
[07:12] <waylandbill> cowboyway, I've used gentoo, slack and freebsd, but scrapped them cause I don't need a super optimized system. I can use ones already compiled and work on work, not the system. :-)
[07:12] <matthew_w> ompaul; vfat
[07:12] <ompaul> matthew_w, what kind of device?
[07:12] <cowboyway> waylandbill: that is a good point
[07:13] <rambo3> no politics
[07:13] <cowboyway> I am building a lamp type application on slackware...but thinking about offering it on ubuntu for customers ease of use and more support available
[07:13] <ompaul> matthew_w, as in hard drive? was windows now is vacant or ??
[07:13] <rmn30> Mon: seems i can't PM you
[07:13] <matthew_w> ompaul; ah!  I figured it out; there were some missing clusters on the drive, so ubuntu mounted it read only.  I did  sudo fsck -r /dev/hd1 and it fixed it all up
[07:13] <ompaul> matthew_w, fine
[07:13] <matthew_w> s/hd1/hdb1
[07:13] <rmn30> i have nvidia nforce2
[07:13] <matthew_w> ompaul; thanks :)
[07:13] <ompaul> matthew_w, we try
[07:13] <sk8az> cowboyway: why would it be not funny? Im loughing just thinking about it ;] 
[07:14] <ompaul> !tell rmn30 about nvidia
[07:14] <Iceyes> HymnToLife it says: su: Authentication failure
[07:14] <rmn30> thanks ompaul
[07:14] <ompaul> rmn30, read the url the channel bot sent ya
[07:14] <waylandbill> cowboyway, of course I say that but I have another machine building a freebsd live CD.. that is actually work in that case though.. lol
[07:14] <cowboyway> sk8az: because hostility and abuse of human life is never funny
[07:14] <rmn30> yeah i have done all this - it was working before
[07:15] <cowboyway> waylandbill:....i understand.....lol
[07:15] <rmn30> seems i have done something to break it of late - all opengl apps seg fault at start up
[07:15] <sk8az> cowboyway: But it is still funny ;DDD
[07:15] <Mon> rmn30: you have to be identified for that
[07:15] <Iceyes> if i try sudo it says: emil is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[07:15] <cowboyway> sk8az: if you truely think it would be funny, you have a very perverse sense of humor
[07:15] <Iceyes>   what to do?
[07:15] <Mon> rmn30: but do you have a graphicscard in the 5000 series by any chance?
[07:15] <HymnToLife> Iceyes> su ?? I think we were talking of sudo here
[07:15] <ompaul> rmn30, are you using dapper
[07:16] <matthew_w> Here's a silly question; where is root's trash can?
[07:16] <matthew_w> lol
[07:16] <rmn30> on breezy but with custom kernel
[07:16] <sk8az> cowboyway: so what, everybodys wierd in some way
[07:16] <|lostbyte|> Anyone here having an ovislink wifi dogle ? pls use my name to reply..
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> - /root/.trash is my guess
[07:16] <matthew_w> Thanks lol
[07:16] <Mon> ompaul: i'm using breezy here and it doesn't work. while it did with a GF2. i think there's something else going on here
[07:16] <Iceyes> HymnToLife: if i try sudo it says: emil is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[07:16] <matthew_w> Dr_Willis; that doesn't exist =(
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> Iceyes,  now ya did it.
[07:16] <rmn30> mon: don't think so just the nforce2 which came with my mobo
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> matthew_w,  try LOOKING and see ing whats in /root/ then :P
[07:16] <HymnToLife> Iceyes> ass the user emil in the admin group
[07:17] <matthew_w> Dr_Willis; I am; and no trash.
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> matthew_w,  perhaps root hasdnt used any deletion/tools that used the trash then
[07:17] <ompaul> mon rmn30, there are two different drivers for nvidia iirc just check your getting the right one
[07:17] <cowboyway> can a person be put on ignore in here ?
[07:17] <Mon> rmn30: oh do yo mean onboard graphics?
[07:18] <Iceyes> HymnToLife: ya i think emil is in the admin group, is there some kind of user i can make to fix this? through users and groups?
[07:18] <_jason> cowboyway: your client does that
[07:18] <Mon> ompaul: you mean the legacy drivers?
[07:18] <farruinn> matthew_w: There wouldn't be a trash can unless you logged into gnome/kde as root... which is generally bad
[07:18] <rmn30> mon: yeah
[07:18] <ompaul> Mon, there are new and old just make sure you get the right ones, if your stuck grab vesa as the card type as an interim measure
[07:18] <matthew_w> farruinn; so, if I'm doing a sudo nautilus, and deleting files as root, are they just being rm'ed?
[07:18] <cowboyway> jason: i am using hydraIRC but dont see how to do it
[07:18] <HymnToLife> Iceyes > you can boot in rescue mode, that will give you a root terminal
[07:18] <HymnToLife> but be VERY careful with it
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> matthew_w,  they could be
[07:18] <Mon> rmn30: could you do a "lspci |grep nVidia" ?
[07:18] <_jason> cowboyway: try /ignore nick
[07:19] <cowboyway> jason: thank you
[07:19] <Mon> ompaul: 2d works just fine, i only experience segfaults with openGL apps.
[07:19] <farruinn> matthew_w: if they are going to a trashcan it would be /root/.Trash
[07:19] <ompaul> ahh
[07:19] <Mon> ompaul: X won't even start without the right driver, so that's not the problem
[07:19] <Iceyes> HymnToLife: i did that and made a new user but still the same problem when i have to type the password it is like the password would be wrong:S
[07:19] <sk8az> what, cowboyway, you want to block me?
[07:19] <matthew_w> Gotcha
[07:19] <matthew_w> Well since that doesn't exist, I surmise that they're being phased :D
[07:20] <trappist> anybody happen to know of a tool to rebuild a pdf's xref table if it's bad?
[07:20] <HymnToLife> Iceyes> that message is because the user in question doesn't have the right to use sudo
[07:20] <HymnToLife> ut normally, each and every use in the admin group has the right to use it
[07:20] <ompaul> Mon, yeap :-/ hmm
[07:20] <Iceyes> HymnToLife: what kind of user do i have to make to access users and groups so i can remake this?
[07:20] <ompaul> Mon, get an account on launchpad and get a bug in there
[07:20] <capiCrimm> no one knows how to get rid of the little grey bars in the panels here -> http://tinyurl.com/lqjmq
[07:20] <rmn30> mon: pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12982
[07:21] <HymnToLife> what's the output of groups with the current user ?
[07:21] <HymnToLife> it will display a list of all the groups the user is in, check if "admin" is in the list
[07:22] <rmn30> mon: brb
[07:22] <Mon> ompaul: got an account, i was planning on doing that
[07:22] <Mon> rmn30: thanks for the info
[07:22] <rmn30> no prob
[07:23] <rmn30> my setup is slightly atypical but may still be of some use
[07:23] <sneex> WMV plugins for totem?
[07:23] <HymnToLife> sneex> w32codecs with totem-xine
[07:24] <rmn30> mon: i've added a backtrace of amarok crashing if that is of some use
[07:25] <Mon> rmn30: maybe it is, lets see
[07:25] <Mon> rmn30: i'm going to file a bug, ill give the url in a minute
[07:25] <rmn30> ok
[07:26] <rmn30> just going to try re-installing nvidia drivers - have to exit X a mo
[07:27] <junior> aew
[07:29] <ZiPpL> huuhu
[07:30] <ZiPpL> http://exhaust.h3c.de/fhwiki/
[07:32] <sneex> thx HymnToLife Ill look into that =)
[07:35] <Venky> is anyone there?
[07:36] <cowboyway> does ubuntu use rpm, or tgz format for binaries ?
[07:36] <_jason> cowboyway: .deb
[07:36] <cowboyway> ok
[07:36] <farous> cowboyway: ubuntu is based on debian so it is .deb
[07:36] <cowboyway> ok
[07:36] <farous> you can install from source though
[07:36] <Venky> how to replace network monitor by the new network-manager-gnome
[07:36] <cowboyway> i tried debian one time and got frustrated with it .....maybe i should give ubuntu a chance
[07:37] <_jason> cowboyway: what are you using now?
[07:37] <cowboyway> jason: slackware
[07:37] <lomonteiro> Hi, Command for I know what version my ubuntu ?
[07:38] <_jason> lomonteiro: lsb_release -a
[07:38] <lomonteiro> tahnks
[07:38] <lomonteiro> thanks
[07:38] <Venky> how to replace network monitor by the new network-manager-gnome
[07:38] <_jason> cowboyway: I would give ubuntu a try, at least run the livecd to see if it looks interesting for you
[07:39] <RancidLM> hey all
[07:39] <cowboyway> i avhe tried the previous version....and liked it ....but didnt try to install all the packages i need that are not on the cd
[07:39] <RancidLM> how do  i get a mic to work with ubuntu.. sounds works great but when i use audacity nothing will record out of the mic
[07:39] <rmn30> Mon: seems i've fixed the problem for me
[07:39] <Mon> rmn30: a reinstall of the nvidia drivers?
[07:40] <rmn30> Mon: yeah
[07:40] <_jason> RancidLM: I had to unmute my mic in the volume prefs... that's the limit of my mic troubleshooting abilities though
[07:40] <rmn30> Mon: i'm not using ubuntu packages
[07:40] <Venky> is there a special channel for dapper?
[07:40] <imbrandon> #ubuntu+1
[07:40] <cowboyway> i did like what i saw with ubuntu
[07:40] <_jason> Venky: #ubuntu+1
[07:40] <Venky> ty
[07:42] <farous> RancidLM: i found that i had to use oss for my mic to work on some appl. you cn set that using prefernces>multimedia sys select
[07:43] <_jim_> is there a way to unrar .rar files ?
[07:43] <Mon> rmn30: ah you just installed the drivers straight from nvidia's site?
[07:43] <_jason> !rar
[07:43] <ubotu> well, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:43] <_jim_> thank you
[07:43] <joelbryan> hey, anyone heard about UbuntuCommonHooker?
[07:43] <jobezone> _jim_: hey, did you fix the locales problem?
[07:44] <_jim_> jobezone  yeah :D
[07:44] <rmn30> Mon: yeah using nvidia-installer or something
[07:44] <_jim_> jobezone wait ill give you link
[07:44] <jobezone> _jim_: for the love of god, how?
[07:44] <rmn30> Mon: very easy in fact
[07:44] <_jim_> jobezone  forums :D
[07:44] <jobezone> _jim_: :)
[07:44] <jobezone> _jim_: ahh...
[07:44] <rmn30> Mon: here is Xorg.log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12985
[07:44] <adam__> If I run "memprof [program] ", then [program]  is never run, even though the memprof window pops up. I can find no way to run memprof on any program. Any ideas?
[07:44] <_jim_> jobezone http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159424&highlight=fix+locales
[07:45] <_jim_> jobezone i really happy now i can install apps :D
[07:45] <_jim_> jobezone any nice suggestion of any nice app ?
[07:46] <Mon> rmn30: i'll give it a go. thanks for the tip
[07:46] <rmn30> no prob
[07:46] <smartek> hello all
[07:47] <jobezone> _jim_: so the magi command was 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force locales' . I din't know you could force a reconfiguration of a package, good to know!
[07:47] <smartek> How can I do better quality in movies on mplayer?
[07:47] <rmn30> Mon: i used this howto http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[07:47] <smartek> It's possible
[07:47] <smartek> ?
[07:47] <smartek> Is it*
[07:47] <h0ned> Hi, what command-line utility can i use to configure adsl?
[07:47] <_jim_> jobezone hehe
[07:47] <rmn30> you get slightly more modern drivers than packaged ones too
[07:48] <h0ned> !adsl
[07:48] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[07:48] <jobezone> _jim_: I have a bunch. See this page of mine, at the end I show which programs I installed in ubuntu: http://jobezone.wordpress.com/2006/03/07/aspire-3003lmi-on-debian-testing-etch/#more-10
[07:48] <Mon> rmn30: i know it was possible but i prefer the ubuntu package system. guess i'll make an exception this time
[07:48] <rmn30> yeah ditto
[07:48] <jobezone> _jim_: actually, it's in a debian system, but the packages are available in ubuntu as well, except gdebi (will appear in Dapper).
[07:49] <_jim_> jobezone alright :D
[07:49] <_jim_> jobezone im now trying to unrar an archive
[07:49] <Jiv001> what is the latest release ?
[07:49] <HymnToLife> Jiv001> the latest stable Ubuntu release is Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger"
[07:50] <Jiv001> and in developement ?
[07:50] <tux911> hey I am not able to change my tty using ctrl alt F1 - F6 any one know y running 5.10
[07:50] <waylandbill> who comes up with the release names anyway... they're definately original.
[07:51] <skpl_> i do
[07:51] <skpl_> why?
[07:51] <jobezone> _jim_: install the package rar first.
[07:51] <jobezone> _jim_: file-roller (the graphical uncompresser) uses it if available.
[07:52] <waylandbill> curiosity?
[07:52] <h0ned> is the latest gnome release available on apt-get yet?
[07:53] <tux911> check your repositories
[07:53] <jobezone> _jim_: if you still can't open that specific rar file, it's because it was compressed with a more recent version of rar, for which you'll have to get the non-free version, following the link someone gave you.
[07:53] <tatters> does anyone run a server form home ? I jsut want to make sure my setup which is WORKING is valid and secure enough..........
[07:53] <jobezone> _jim_: but basically, you need to "activate" the multiverse repository, and install unrar (or is it unrar-nonfree, not sure).
[07:53] <tatters> Internet--X--Public-- IP gateway+DNS+webser+mysql--X--Private IP -wrt54g--DHCP--lan
[07:53] <Sodium> Hello, I've installed DVD Shrink using Wine but it doesn't detect my DVD burner! How can I enable it?
[07:53] <tatters> x=NIC
[07:53] <polpak> jobezone, there's both unrar-free and unrar-nonfree
[07:54] <jobezone> polpak: ah, ok
[07:54] <tux911> Sodium, install all of the cdburning packages
[07:54] <waylandbill> Sodium, maybe a permissions thing?
[07:55] <shreds> oky
[07:55] <Sodium> cdburning packages?
[07:55] <Sodium> I'll check the permissions, hold on
[07:55] <tux911> Sodium, does it even come up in your /dev dir?
[07:56] <_jim_2> sorry jobezone i got disconnected
[07:56] <Sodium> Yes, in Linux it is recognized.. just in DVD Shrink it isn't
[07:56] <Diiba> Hi.
[07:56] <Warbo> Diiba: Hi
[07:56] <_jim_2> jobezone , i cant find the rar package in synaptic
[07:56] <waylandbill> does wine know of the drive?
[07:56] <jobezone> _jim_2: no problem. it's unrar then.
[07:56] <Sodium> waylandbill: it isn't permissions, even running with sudo it won't detect
[07:57] <jobezone> _jim_2: You may need to add the multiverse repository (it can be done in synaptic).
[07:57] <tux911> can you mount the drive
[07:57] <_jim_2> jobezone already added multiverse i think...
[07:57] <tux911> Sodium out of wine?
[07:57] <jobezone> _jim_2: unrar-free, and/or unrar-nonfree, depends on which version of rar that file you have was compressed with.
[07:57] <_jim_2> jobezone ok i got those two
[07:58] <Sodium> tux911: yes, Wine
[07:58] <jobezone> _jim_2: then file-roller (program which launches when you doubleclick a .rar file) should be able to use them, and decompress the file.
[07:58] <tux911> Sodium, yah but can you mount it in linux, manually not using wine?
[07:59] <_jim_2> jobezone thanks for another time :D
[07:59] <_jim_2> jobezone im installing limewire :p
[07:59] <dingus9> hey I am trying to access my tty's but they wont work? any ideahs
[07:59] <tatters> any network guru about can tell me if my  setup  for public webserver is correct?
[07:59] <jobezone> _jim_2: ahh.. only used it once a long time ago
[07:59] <tux911> tatters whats the prob?
[07:59] <Sodium> tux911: i dont get it, it is mounted
[08:00] <toblerp> hey folks
[08:00] <Warbo> dingus9: If that is the ctrl-alt-f1 stuff then mine stopped working a while ago when my Xorg locale conflicted with my GNOME locale (I never fixed it as my HD failed, so I just installed on another drive)
[08:00] <toblerp> i want to install ubuntu on an amd64 laptop, are there any cons? i've heard that flash won't work, is that true
[08:01] <lastent> hi everyone
[08:01] <toblerp> oh and before i forget, of course i wanna use the amd64-bit version
[08:01] <dingus9> Warbo, ahh ill start there thanks
[08:01] <toblerp> not the i386-one
[08:01] <tatters> well just trying to get confirmation my security is as i assume it is,,  everythings working just need a nod, i will post my setup slowly if you have the time to give it the once over
[08:01] <Warbo> toblerp: You can install 2 ways. Install the 32bit version and get everything, or use 64bit and have everything, but with a little more work
[08:02] <_jim_2> jobezone it works ? because when it downloads java it crashes
[08:02] <tux911> Sodium, hmmm ok how is it mounted? sometimes I have had my drives mount with out the proper perms during the mount
[08:02] <lastent> hey i have a problem, i cant see the navegation icons, i mean for examper the back and next icons appear like a X, i thing theres a problem with the images, can somebody help me?
[08:02] <tux911> Sodium, that was a samba mount though
[08:02] <Warbo> toblerp: Try searching some Ubuntu sites for guides on "32bit chroot" as that will run Flash and stuff in a 32bit environment, and everything else 64bit
[08:03] <tux911> Sodium, I could access in the console but only as root
[08:03] <immolo> does ubuntu support mutlilibs?
[08:03] <jobezone> _jim_2: when it downloads java? You should probably install java before. There's a good quick tutorial on how to install it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[08:03] <Jebuz> anyone try instaling Kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu? any horror storries?
[08:03] <drax666> How can I mount ntfs partitions under user mode???
[08:03] <Sodium> tux911: it is mounted automatically, I never do it manually
[08:03] <_jim_2> jobezone i thought that too... thanks for the link
[08:04] <_jason> ubotu: tell drax666 about ntfs
[08:04] <Warbo> lastent: Have you tried switching themes then back again? (In preferences)
[08:04] <_jim_2> jobezone because wine gets this error on java install :err:msi:copy_package_to_temp failed to copy package to temp path L"C:\\windows\\temp\\MSI2395.tmp"
[08:04] <Riddell> Jebuz: it'll work fine
[08:04] <Jebuz> _jim_2:  i pretty much do every thing on that page to make everything that doesnt work at first work
[08:04] <lastent> warbo yes if trie
[08:04] <lastent> d
[08:05] <tatters> I have a linux boxsetup as a gateway 2 nics,,,,, NIC 1 is connected to my broadand dsl/ehernet modem,,,NIC  2 as static IP 192.168.1.1 which is connected to my linsys router. it act as a gatewy to my lan with DHCP
[08:05] <Jebuz> Riddell,  so no hitches in losing all my menu structure and whatnot
[08:05] <jobezone> drax666: add the 'user' option to its line in /etc/fstab . Like this-> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions#head-2a64a964ff8833576586c7216a1199f022c505a6
[08:05] <Sodium> just a simple question, how can I change a file's owner?
[08:05] <Riddell> Jebuz: menu structure won't change, although it'll add a bunch of kde programmes of course
[08:05] <_jason> Sodium: chown
[08:05] <tux911> Sodium, then check your /etc/fstab file to see what it is being mounted as or just look at you mount command also it is possible that wine may want it unmounted to access the drive I use cedega and the cd has to be unmounted in order to run the game installs
[08:05] <Warbo> lastent: Maybe try copying one of the /usr/share/themes/sometheme directories to $HOME/.themes and change it's permissions so you own it. Then try switching away and back again
[08:05] <Jebuz> well thats always a bonus :)
[08:05] <jobezone> _jim_2: ah, right, limewire is a windows application, right?
[08:05] <_jim_2> jobezone yes
[08:06] <Jebuz> limewire is awesomely shite in linux
[08:06] <immolo> jobezone, both lin and win
[08:06] <_jason> _jim_2: frostwire is very similar to limewire
[08:06] <Sodium> _jason: thx
[08:06] <immolo> its shit in windows too :o
[08:06] <jobezone> _jim_2: why not use the linux version? Or use an alternative?
[08:06] <Jebuz> it;s great for finding stuff till it slws to a crawl foring you to kill it..
[08:06] <_jim_2> jobezone is it same good ? it connects to same server ?
[08:06] <Sodium> tux911: I'm trying to create a symbolic link in my dosdrives directory, maybe that will work
[08:06] <Jebuz> I'll stick with torrent
[08:06] <toblerp> @Warbo: what do you mean with more work?
[08:06] <jobezone> _jim_2: I would think so...
[08:06] <scifi> hi guys, im attempting to get CS to run smoother via wine, im under the impression that a graphics driver update may help this. How do i safely update video drivers in ubuntu ?
[08:06] <Warbo> jobezone: It's Java so it's just the "plugin" type stuff (like windoze media player) that won't be there right?
[08:07] <Sodium> _jason: is it the same command for a folder? 'cause it won't work...
[08:07] <_jim_2> jobezone so i go to Add Applications and fine any p2p program ?
[08:07] <_jason> Sodium: yes.  What happens when you try? What exactly are you chown'ing?
[08:07] <jobezone> Warbo: I guess, but I've never tried it myself in linux (only in windows).
[08:07] <tux911> Sodium, yah its possible also try to unmount the drive before you use wine. Im just going off of my cedege/winex though
[08:07] <Sodium> _jason: nothing happens, no errors... I'm trying to chown a folder
[08:07] <Jebuz> Limewires not horrible that is to say .. it works
[08:08] <_jason> Sodium: what folder
[08:08] <Warbo> toblerp: You can install a 64bit system, then install a limited 32bit system INSIDE that system, and install Flash and stuff in there, then link them to the main 64bit system so once you set it up it's all transparent (you don't notice the difference). But it takes a little work to get it going
[08:08] <jobezone> _jim_2: yes... if you absolutely want limewire, I think easyubuntu can install it for you. There are lots of good p2p programs. Myself, I use amule.
[08:08] <Sodium> _jason: a symbolic link to cdrom0 in Wine's dosdrives directory
[08:08] <Jebuz> _jim_2: why not go torrent?
[08:08] <immolo> Warbo, can't you just install a 32bit binary of firefox and flash like other distros
[08:08] <toblerp> so just a 32-bit chroot cage, that'S all?
[08:09] <scifi> can anyone advise me on this ?
[08:09] <toblerp> is there a tutorial?
[08:09] <_jason> Sodium: who owns it now?
[08:09] <_jim_2> Jebuz nah i dont like dl mp3 by torrents....
[08:09] <Sodium> _jason: root
[08:09] <_jim_2> jobezone what is easyubuntu ?
[08:09] <tux911> Sodium, I would think that if you wanted to use the drive in raw mode(ie not mounted) under wine you would need to unmount it in linux, if your just trying to get wine to be able to access data on the drive then the simlink is a good idea. you won't be able to burn though I think
[08:10] <jobezone> Sodium: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/32bit_and_64bit
[08:10] <Sodium> tux911: even not burning it is ok, I just want to create a ISO file
[08:10] <Warbo> immolo: I haven't used a 64bit system myself (except my mates, but it was 32bit XP :)) but I think that chroot is the best way. Also, if you're going to install different versions of Firefox you may as well use windoze version and get Flash 8 (in WINE)
[08:10] <_jason> Sodium: so it's not the folder you want to chown, it's the symlink?
[08:10] <Jebuz> _jim_2: ahh tis cool.. limewiores not that bad in ubuntu the only issue I've ever had is the fact that my isp gives me the boot for too many hits
[08:10] <Sodium> _jason: exactly
[08:10] <jobezone> Sodium: oops, my mistake, wanted to say this to another person.
[08:10] <_jason> Sodium: use -h
[08:10] <Sodium> jobezone: ok
[08:10] <jobezone> toblerp: see this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/32bit_and_64bit
[08:10] <Sodium> _jason: ok, I'll try that now
[08:11] <scifi> hi guys, im attempting to get CS to run smoother via wine, im under the impression that a graphics driver update may help this. How do i safely update video drivers in ubuntu ?
[08:11] <tux911> Sodium, hmmm iso in wine? ic so you may need it to be raw mode, what winX program are you trying to use?
[08:11] <immolo> Warbo, well I've only tried once because live is so much better flash free but with gentoo I can have my 64bit mplayer, firefix etc and my 32bit versions can be called by adding -bin to the end of the program
[08:11] <Sodium> _jason: no luck... I get no errors, but the owner wont change
[08:12] <tux911> scifi, whats your gfx card?
[08:12] <_jason> Sodium: you are using sudo?
[08:12] <_jim_2> Jebuz well... i already have the java that ubuntu is preinstalled with but when installing Limewire it downloads java and then it crashes
[08:12] <Sodium> tux911: it is dvd shrink
[08:12] <scifi> tux911: geforce 4 ti 4400
[08:12] <Sodium> _jason: yes
[08:12] <immolo> s/live/life
[08:12] <Warbo> scifi: If you are using the non-free drivers already then I would stick to the Ubuntu ones, as I have had really bad experiences trying to a) install nvidia binaries and b) get rid of them when they are dodgy
[08:12] <_jason> Sodium: can you paste the command you used?
[08:12] <jobezone> _jim_2: hmm, had a look, and it doesn't install limewire. Automatix does, but people say not to recommend it.... Both of these are programs to automatically and easily install these things that can't be done automatically by ubuntu for legal reasons.
[08:12] <Jebuz> you shourl just use the Sun Java
[08:12] <Jebuz> thats what seemed to work for me ..
[08:13] <Sodium> _jason: sudo chown -h luis d:
[08:13] <toblerp> thx
[08:13] <tux911> scifi, download the driver from the www.nvidia.com its a really easy install youll need gcc make etc though
[08:13] <anabelen> hola
[08:13] <scifi> Warbo: i dont really know what drivers im using, ubuntu auto-detected my card when i first installed it
[08:13] <_jim_2> jobezone so , arent like synaptic ? it downloads and installs automatically too
[08:13] <anabelen> hole
[08:13] <lastent> warbo i dont have the file /usr/share/themes/sometheme
[08:13] <anabelen> hi
[08:13] <Warbo> scifi: In that case don't follow that nvidia link. Get the nvidia-glx package and linux-restricted-modules package
[08:14] <anabelen> your talk spnis
[08:14] <_jason> Sodium: that should work, what is 'ls -l d:' saying now?
[08:14] <Warbo> lastent: The "sometheme" meant whichever theme you want to use :)
[08:14] <jobezone> _jim_2: underneath, it uses apt-get, which is the same program used by Synaptic, and add/remove programs.
[08:14] <Sodium> _jason: it says>      lrwxrwxrwx  1 luis luis 13 2006-04-27 14:58 d: -> /media/cdrom0
[08:14] <tux911> scifi, also you will need the mesa opengl librarys, if you can't get it to run in wine try paying for Cedega it was worth it for me but... its 5$ per month
[08:14] <_jim_2> jobezone alright ... i might have a look at automatix later
[08:14] <toblerp> that means that i just have to install the ia32-libs, that'S it?
[08:14] <Jebuz> _JIM_2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp3#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[08:14] <lastent> warbo ha ha ha, sorry im not native english speaker
[08:14] <scifi> tux911/warbo: getting conflicting advice here, warbo ur saying the nvidia ones have been unstable for u?
[08:14] <_jason> Sodium: so luis is the owner
[08:15] <Sodium> _jason: but in properties it says root
[08:15] <Jebuz> _jim_2 there you will find the WIki for installing Sun java using apt
[08:15] <bliss1_> hi
[08:15] <Sodium> _jason: and I can't change its properties
[08:15] <Jebuz> howdy
[08:15] <jobezone> _jim_2: but some people say it messes too much with configurations files...
[08:15] <Warbo> tux911: Only for three months, unless you keep buying brand new games. I would just download whatever you will think you might need later during the first three months then leave it
[08:15] <_jim_2> Jebuz thanks
[08:15] <_jason> Sodium: properties is giving you the properties for the thing it points to
[08:15] <tux911> scifi, I had some trouble aslo the driver just drops gl support but a reinstall fixes the prob
[08:15] <_jim_2> jobezone oo.... well im gonna stay away of this :p
[08:16] <joel__> I never had trouble with the NVIDIA drivers,  just that every kernel upgrade needs me to reinstall the restricted modules, and re-do the driver compile
[08:16] <tux911> Warbo, yah im waiting for the new windows installer fix
[08:16] <Jebuz> _jim_2 you have the multiverse repository and whatnot enabled though right?
[08:16] <jobezone> _jim_2: after installing sun java using that wiki page, you can remove blackdown java (the one you installed before, I think).
[08:16] <Jebuz> thats right should be abnle to
[08:16] <tux911> Warbo, Age of empirse III baby
[08:16] <Sodium> _jason: is it possible to change the owner of cdrom0?
[08:16] <Warbo> scifi: OK, there are 2 drivers. "nv" which is free (and most linux distros put by default) and "nvidia" which is non-free, made by nvidia and runs much faster with more features. You can get the nvidia driver from nvidia.com but it is better to use the packages in Ubuntu
[08:16] <_jason> Sodium: why do you want to do this?
[08:17] <Sodium> _jason: maybe wine will recognize my DVD burner with that
[08:17] <tux911> scifi, I have a nvidia gforce 4 ti it runs great with the official drivers
[08:17] <Jebuz> scifi: don't feel too fustrated I still use a voodoo 3
[08:17] <bliss1_> arrick: here something for your apache server ;http://www.howtoforge.com/high_availability_loadbalanced_apache_cluster
[08:17] <Armagguedes> does anyone know if i need special drivers to read/access DL DVDs?
[08:17] <_jim_2> jobezone yeah.... better to leave only one java
[08:17] <Warbo> Jebuz: For CS?
[08:17] <_jim_2> Jebuz yeah multiverse is there
[08:17] <_jason> Sodium: yes it's possible, it doesn't sound very smart though.  Do you belong to the cdrom group?
[08:17] <QuciK> QS  : When compiling from source, it asks for dependecies.. how can I add all needed deps by one strike..
[08:17] <scifi> Warbo: can i update to the non-free nvidia drivers using the ubuntu packages ?
[08:18] <scifi> tux911: that sounds promising then
[08:18] <DBO> Jebuz, oh wow, Id almost pay you for that card... I loved my voodoo 3, too bad it burned out...  sorry, no more OT from me...
[08:18] <QuciK> I am talking about popular softwares
[08:18] <Sodium> _jason: i'll check it, but why isn't it smart?
[08:18] <Jebuz> scifi: ohh hell no .. but just getting the thing excellerated properly is fun! ... yeash thats why i stopped doing it :)
[08:18] <jobezone> Sodium: have you tried this guide? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DVDShrink
[08:18] <Warbo> scifi: Yes. The driver is in "linux-restricted-modules-yourkernelversion" package and the files it needs are in "nvidia-glx" package. Then you just change Xorg's configuration to use the nvidia instead of nv driver
[08:19] <Jebuz> DBO: hell if you were anywhere near montreal you could have it!
[08:19] <Sodium> jobezone: I got it running, but it won't recognize my DVD drive
[08:19] <_jason> Sodium: there are a lot of tools for linux to work with dvd's, why do you need some windows app?  And it's not very smart because unix permissions are setup like they are for a reason, if you change them it can have uninteded consequences
[08:19] <tux911> scifi, if you run the install from www.nvidia.com it will build you a driver for you distro and then update xorg.conf for you !! you don't even have to do all that
[08:19] <DBO> Jebuz, I have something of an emotionaly attatchment to the 3dfx cards =)  Good memories
[08:19] <Warbo> QuciK: There is some "apt-something" package that asks you for everything which is checked for bu a "./configure" but I forget which. Just look at the packages in Synaptic starting with apt
[08:19] <Sodium> _jason: yes I understand that... but there is no tool like DVD shrink available
[08:20] <joel__> Sodium: you may need libdvdread and libdvdcss2
[08:20] <tux911> scifi,  just make sure you uninstall any older "nvid" drivers first not "nv" though
[08:20] <Jebuz> DBO: fell in love with voodoo 5 when i saw how beefy it looked, too bad damn thing never fit any ove the cases i owned!
[08:20] <Warbo> tux911: That will make files not packaged in Ubuntu! You will break it by merely upgrading Xorg or your kernel!
[08:20] <joel__> Sodium: the latter is a little hard to find, just google it for debian and instal the .deb package
[08:20] <QuciK> can I install KDE to have a dual desktop with gnome ???
[08:20] <_jason> Sodium: I don't know what it does so I can't say either way
[08:20] <Jebuz> Qucik: doing it now
[08:21] <egonw_> hi all, any can help me setting up apache/tomcat on dapper?
[08:21] <Warbo> scifi: Honestly, don't follow Tux911's advice. It will create you many problems in the future (sorry Tux911 :))
[08:21] <egonw_> "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" does not do much :(
[08:21] <joel__> Quick, yes, just search synaptic for the 'kde' metapackage
[08:21] <jobezone> Sodium: What about the ubuntuforums thread which discusses that howto? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78611 I saw some people there not having their burner recognized as well, probably other's helped them fix it.
[08:21] <QuciK> Jebuz: using the package manager ?
[08:21] <Sodium> joel_: I got these installed
[08:21] <Sodium> _jason: it compresses 9 GB dvds so them can fit into 4 gb ones
[08:21] <QuciK> ok
[08:21] <scifi> tux911: i dont remember installing any previous nvidia drivers anyway
[08:21] <Jebuz> yup Kubuntu-Desktop is the package I'm getting it via apt as we speak
[08:21] <Sodium> jobezone: ok I'll check that!
[08:22] <_jason> Sodium: have you tried k9copy?
[08:22] <scifi> warbo/tux911: well im downloading the one from nvidia , but warbo is worrying me :P
[08:22] <Rayman> hey how could I attach to a remote DISPLAY. (the remote comp is running ubuntu dapper)
[08:22] <tux911> Warbo, dude it doesn't matter though because you can just change it again OMG what ever dude its so worthi it for the better dirvers
[08:22] <QuciK> how much time it resquires , saying u have adsl ?
[08:22] <senjin> what pagages do you need to compile a source?
[08:22] <Jebuz> Umm it's about 457 MB..
[08:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell senjin about compile
[08:22] <scifi> warbo: so i need to enable restricted modules in synaptic ?
[08:22] <QuciK> wow
[08:22] <Profichilla> huhu
[08:22] <Jebuz> but thats witrh all the Kubuntu added touches
[08:22] <Warbo> scifi: Just go into Synaptic and install the "nvidia-glx" package and the "linux-restricted-modules" package. Then you will never have to install it again, it will update itself, it will rebuild itself when you upgrade your kernel. OMG that is a better way!
[08:22] <Sodium> _jason: can it compress movies as well?
[08:22] <QuciK> jebuz: this includes koffice or without ?
[08:23] <Jebuz> qucik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE?highlight=%28kde%29
[08:23] <pup> hi, i can't seem to switch audio tracks in mplayer using #... it works in gmplayer, but gmplayer doesn't have the sdl output which performs better on my system... any idea how to switch the audio track at the command line or anything
[08:23] <Jebuz> with open office
[08:23] <kingspawn> anyone use xfce4? wondering how I can switch the language it operates with
[08:23] <joel__> scifi: also get build-essential
[08:23] <_jason> Sodium: type this: apt-cache show k9copy
[08:23] <Jebuz> adn k office it appears
[08:23] <Warbo> Can someone help scifi with this (the Ubuntu way!) as I have to go Thanks.
[08:23] <_jason> Sodium: (that is all I know)
[08:23] <jobezone> Sodium: There still doesn't exist a easy dvdshrink like program, but k9copy does the trick, nevertheless.
[08:23] <QuciK> hmm
[08:23] <tux911> scifi you may have some problems but sofar I haven't its worth it for the better dirvers for me any ways. but your free to do what ever you like lol
[08:24] <scifi> Warbo: im gonna follow ur advice
[08:24] <polpak> scifi, the easiest way to install the nvidia drivers is to follow the wiki
[08:24] <polpak> !tell scifi about nvidia
[08:24] <Jebuz> qucik:I"m starin at my term window that downloading the files.. but all available options are on that wiki page i sent ya
[08:24] <Sodium> _jason: thx for that, I'll be checking it
[08:24] <QuciK> ok
[08:24] <Sodium> jobezone: it does the trick? so it's like dvd shrink isnt it?
[08:25] <QuciK> will check it now, thanx for the info
[08:25] <jobezone> Sodium: it does what dvdshrink does, but it's not as easy to use as dvdshrink.
[08:25] <XiXaQ> can someone tell me how to use PPPoE in Ubuntu 5.04?
[08:25] <Sodium> jobezone: sounds very good, I'll try that! g2g now, thank you
[08:26] <polpak> !adsl
[08:26] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[08:26] <scifi> polpak: thx going thru it now
[08:26] <Jebuz> ubotu is my hero
[08:26] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jebuz
[08:26] <XiXaQ> polpak, wow, that's nice. :)
[08:26] <polpak> !botsnack
[08:26] <ubotu> :)
[08:26] <Jebuz> bot can't even take a compliment
[08:26] <joel__> jobezone, ever use mencoder with acidrip to make divx files?  Compresses nicely into mp4 or other formats.... Been playing with it.  Works pretty good
[08:27] <marcrosoft> what application do you guys use to listen to podcasts?
[08:28] <jobezone> joel__: I've looked at it, and once tried it. Now, I mostly use thoggen, even if it takes hours to rip a movie to ogg!
[08:28] <Jebuz> yay K time!
[08:29] <joel__> jobezone... is that .avi files with an .ogg audio stream?  Is there any windows plugins for this strange combo?  I know dvd players choke on ogg but never tried it in,,, ahhh never really use windows but my other does
[08:30] <HymnToLife> joel_ > you can _not_ put a Vorbis stream in an AVI file
[08:30] <heatxsink> what arguments do I pass via the "boot:" to set the resolution of the screen?
[08:30] <HymnToLife> AVI stinks anyway, use MAtroska
[08:30] <joel__> Hymn to life, yes you can!!!
[08:30] <mikel> hI EVERY ONE
[08:30] <polpak> heatxsink, the resolution for what, X?
[08:31] <polpak> heatxsink, or the console
[08:31] <heatxsink> polpak: I'm using the mini.iso
[08:31] <heatxsink> console
[08:31] <polpak> heatxsink, it's using a framebuffer then?
[08:31] <HymnToLife> joel__ really ? I've alway thought you couldn't
[08:31] <jobezone> joel__: No, it's theora for video and vorbis for sound... No, I'm not enconding it to see in a dvd player.. I don't know if there any which can read this format yet.
[08:31] <heatxsink> I believe so
[08:31] <heatxsink> whatever the default is
[08:31] <scifi> ok, nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings now installing :)
[08:31] <heatxsink> it isn't working right
[08:31] <HymnToLife> but that doesn't keep AVIs from sucking
[08:32] <joel__> Read the mplayer manual... It states not to because of incompatibility with dvd players, but mplayer will play these 'hybrid' streams
[08:32] <polpak> heatxsink, you probably just need to change the vga= peram
[08:33] <polpak> heatxsink, there's a table that tells you what to set it with
[08:33] <polpak> heatxsink, http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/HOWTOS/framebuffer/framebuffer.php
[08:33] <Jebuz> wow that was a painless KDE install
[08:33] <jobezone> aparently K9copy isn't in the breezy repository, only in Dapper, so I gave bad advice to Sodium ....oops
[08:33] <wsjunior> if i install windoze in the same machine that already has ubuntu, how to restore the grub after installing windoze?
[08:33] <_jason> !info k9copy
[08:33] <polpak> !grub
[08:33] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:33] <heatxsink> polpak: thanks :-)
[08:33] <Rancorus> i am trying to write in a pdf document but i don't have any programs that seem to be able to do it
[08:33] <_jason> jobezone: oops me too
[08:33] <wsjunior> thanks
[08:34] <polpak> wsjunior, np =)
[08:35] <heatxsink> polpak: man that doesn't work
[08:35] <heatxsink> it says could not find kernel image
[08:35] <roryy> Rancorus: you mean you want to edit an existing PDF, or create new one ?
[08:35] <wsjunior> is there any gtk app like qtparted?
[08:35] <_jason> wsjunior: gparted
[08:35] <egonw_> anyone around with experience in setting up tomcat5 on dapper?
[08:36] <_jim_2> i cant install java as the website says :(
[08:36] <wsjunior> _jason, ty
[08:36] <_jim_2> error
[08:36] <jobezone> _jim_2: what error does it give?
[08:36] <scifi> ok guys, restarted x and got the nvidia splash screen so i assume drives went in ok. any other tips before i startup steam ?
[08:37] <scifi> drivers*
[08:37] <_jim_2> chmod: cannot access `java.bin': No such file or directory
[08:37] <theBishop> are there any tools in ubuntu for setting up dual displays?
[08:37] <_jim_2> wait ill try something else
[08:37] <jobezone> _jim_2: perhaps you're not in the directory java.bin is...
[08:38] <_jim_2> jobezone strange im already at desktop :(
[08:38] <_jim_2> jobezone ill try to move it somewhere elsewhere
[08:38] <Armagguedes> does anyone know if i need special drivers to read/access DL DVDs?
[08:38] <jobezone> _jim_2: you can also do it graphically. Just right-click the file, and make it executable to 'group'.
[08:38] <polpak> heatxsink, is the installer, or the grub menu?
[08:38] <hephaistos> hello
[08:38] <Armagguedes> i've tried to run Command & Conquer the 1st Decade, burned on a DVD-DL, but i cant read it
[08:38] <Armagguedes>  Could not mount device.
 The reported error was:
 mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
 missing codepage or other error
 In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
 dmesg | tail or so
[08:39] <heatxsink> polpak: installer, I think the prompt says "boot:"
[08:39] <polpak> Armagguedes, don't paste in here
[08:39] <Armagguedes> i get this error when i insert the disc
[08:39] <jobezone> _jim_2: and the command is 'chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin' .
[08:39] <polpak> Armagguedes, use pastebin
[08:39] <Armagguedes> ups sry forgot about that polpak
[08:39] <_jim_2> jobezone i renamed it to java.bin
[08:39] <jobezone> _jim_2: ahh...
[08:39] <ilia> hello! does anybody know what scripts or comands are executed when i press  logout->hibernate button in gnome in ubuntu? or any ideas how to find it out? i'm stuck..
[08:40] <polpak> heatxsink, so what images are available? is there a help via F1, or anything like that?
[08:40] <heatxsink> i feel SO stupid I just found that
[08:40] <heatxsink> hahaa
[08:40] <polpak> heatxsink, generally you have to type something like    linux vga=771 or something like that
[08:40] <jobezone> _jim_2: then just right-click it, and make it executable by 'groub' (there's owner, group, other). Or make sure you are in the directory where the file is (in the terminal, do 'ls' to see all files in the directory you are at).
[08:41] <polpak> heatxsink, so just find the appropriate image, then append the vga bit to the end
[08:41] <heatxsink> there is it
[08:41] <heatxsink> there it is *
[08:41] <heatxsink> idiot!
[08:41] <heatxsink> hahah
[08:41] <heatxsink> sorry
[08:41] <polpak> heatxsink, like expert vga=771 or something
[08:41] <heatxsink> polpak: I think I got it now
[08:41] <heatxsink> polpak: install vga=789
[08:41] <heatxsink> that was it
[08:41] <heatxsink> grrr
[08:41] <polpak> heatxsink, =)
[08:42] <_jim_2> jobezone i dont see make it exec by group
[08:42] <miter>  hello, want to rip a CD with "Grip", but it says "no CD found in device".!?
[08:42] <polpak> heatxsink, I had the same problem installing ubuntu on my pvr system
[08:42] <_jim_2> jobezone only : Text editor , add apps , terminal , other app
[08:42] <scifi> think it might be a sound card driver issue slowing me down, after installing the nre grpahics driver, still as slow as before
[08:42] <polpak> heatxsink, cause the TV couldn't handle the default resolution
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> ilia: Well...the last ditch option of course is that it's possible by reading source.  However, I know there's an easier way, and likely if you ask that every hour or so you'll find someone who knows.  (I've seen it before but can't remember for the life of me.)
[08:42] <heatxsink> polpak: awesome, what is your setup like?
[08:42] <heatxsink> polpak: what are you using for a frontend?
[08:42] <polpak> heatxsink, mythtv
[08:42] <heatxsink> polpak: which remote too?
[08:42] <heatxsink> polpak: nice :-)
[08:43] <polpak> heatxsink, I don't have a remote yet.. need to get an ir receiver
[08:43] <jobezone> _jim_2: right-click the java.bin file, then choose the last option, Properties. In the window that opens, there should be a permissions tab.
[08:43] <miter> It seems my Ubuntu can't mount correctly AUDIO CDs (it works with data), since typing "mount" does NOT show the Audio CD ( it does show a data cd however). By inserting an audio cd, automatically soundjuicer does open it, i can ONLY open it in soundjuicer !?
[08:43] <heatxsink> polpak: i've yet to get that going on my machine
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> What would be a good vga= mode to use for a 1280x768 LCD screen?
[08:43] <heatxsink> polpak: get that "firefly remote"
[08:43] <heatxsink> it's awesome
[08:43] <heatxsink> polpak: i have it
[08:43] <jobezone> _jim_2: if this gets too confusing, try in the terminal do 'ls' . This lists the files in the directory you're in.
[08:43] <heatxsink> polpak: it's 900mhz or something
[08:43] <polpak> tonyyarusso, http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/HOWTOS/framebuffer/framebuffer.php
[08:43] <tatters> I use knopmyth on my TV box pretty nice looking must say
[08:43] <scifi> neideas what sound driver i shud choose from wine-cfg ?
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Thanks.
[08:43] <_jim_2> jobezone ok i see
[08:43] <_jim_2> jobezone User or Group ID ?
[08:44] <polpak> tonyyarusso, there aren't many options unfortunately for non-standard screens
[08:44] <hephaistos> Hello, i gat some problem with damn ATI(fglrx) drivers for displaying extended desktop. Monitor 1 is not monitor 0's clone(or screen?), it only displays some brown background and i cant move any window to monitor 1(nor my cursor) can somebody help?
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> polpak: So I've found so far.  It's a "widescreen" version of a laptop, which are fairly common though, so you'd think..
[08:45] <scifi> anyone ?
[08:45] <antoniox> yea
[08:45] <jobezone> _jim_2: mmm... I'm not running nautilus now... But making it executable by the owner, or by the group work (since you're the owner of the file as well).
[08:45] <ilia> tonyyarusso: thanx anyway, i maybe try that too
[08:45] <polpak> tonyyarusso, there's another framebuffer you can try
[08:45] <_jim_2> jobezone  ok im runinng it hold on
[08:46] <_jim_2> jobezone hmm it installed i think
[08:46] <_jim_2> jobezone try now , limewire again ?
[08:46] <hephaistos> cant anybody help?
[08:46] <jobezone> _jim_2: you've finished the instructions in the wikipage? If so, yes, run limewire.
[08:48] <hephaistos> anybody around?
[08:48] <polpak> !tell hephaistos about patience
[08:48] <abbot45> having a problem.  ubuntu isn't recognising data dvds i burned with K3B.  It shows it as a blank DVD in the file system.  the only way i can see the stuff is if i actually look at it in K3B, but then i can't do anything with it.
[08:49] <iceman> anyone ever installed nextstep on a intel pc
[08:49] <hephaistos> polak-->but i am pissed, i spent the whole damn night and day on that shit !
[08:49] <_jim_2> jobezone hmm im trying to add the version i installed to the default java version but still cant select it
[08:49] <jobezone> abbot45: do the contents show in /media/cdrom ?
[08:49] <_jim_2> jobezone even after i edited a file
[08:49] <_jim_2> jobezone should i reinstall ?
[08:50] <abbot45> yes.
[08:50] <jobezone> _jim_2: I don't know how limewire works... wait a minute, checking the forums
[08:50] <hephaistos> polak-->and thats the first time i use irc ;)
[08:50] <_jim_2> jobezone ok
[08:50] <abbot45> jobezone, they do, but not if i click the icon on the desktop.
[08:50] <webwolf_27> I'm having a problem with my cardreader(s), hal problem I think, where can I configure hal?
[08:51] <polpak> tonyyarusso, do you know what the video card is?
[08:51] <scifi> could anyone have a look at my terminal log to see if they can advise me on why CS is running so slowly via steam ?
[08:51] <polpak> !tell hephaistos about language
[08:51] <iceman> anyone know how to mount a non standard cd image ?
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> polpak: Intel something or other.  I could go check.
[08:52] <reon> How do I write to my mounted fat32 partition ?
[08:52] <_jim_2> jobezone forget the whole thing...... where i can find frostwire
[08:52] <polpak> tonyyarusso, there are some alternative framebuffers available for different video cards
[08:52] <polpak> !frostwire
[08:52] <miter> anyone using GRIP here (to rip CDs)?
[08:52] <_jim_2> jobezone i searched with synaptic but its not there
[08:52] <polpak> !tell _jim_2 about frostwire
[08:52] <abbot45> miter, I Do
[08:52] <_jim_2> o thanks polpak
[08:52] <miter> abbot45: does it work flawlessly?
[08:52] <jobezone> _jim_2: try this tutorial http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_P2P_Gnutella_Client_.28LimeWire.29 .
[08:53] <highvoltage> hehe: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[08:53] <_jim_2> jobezone ok
[08:53] <Jebuz> any   one here  own a WFC by nintendo?
[08:53] <jobezone> abbot45: that's weo
[08:53] <abbot45> miter, I think its the best ripping program.  most options and such.
[08:53] <r0xoR> thx ompaul
[08:53] <abbot45> jobezone, weo?
[08:53] <r0xoR> so is there a no swearing rule in this channel?
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> Yeah.
[08:54] <r0xoR> topic says nothing about no swearing
[08:54] <r0xoR> ok then
[08:54] <polpak> hephaistos, can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[08:54] <scifi> please someone look at my pastebin steam log:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12987
[08:54] <miter> abbot45: what did you specified in the options for CD (the path) to it? becausewhen inserting a CD, soundjuicer starts, and in grip it says no CD found...
[08:54] <hephaistos> okok
[08:54] <jobezone> abbot45: meant to say, that's weird... that you double-click the cd-rom file, and it's as if it was empty.
[08:55] <AnAnt> why does Ubuntu prefer Grub over Lilo ?
[08:55] <polpak> scifi, what is the output of glxinfo | grep -i direct
[08:55] <iceman> Anyone know the Nextstep cd image file "mount type"
[08:55] <scifi> polpak: how do i run that ?
[08:55] <polpak> scifi, in a terminal
[08:55] <scifi> just type glxinfo | grep -i direct while steams running ?
[08:56] <polpak> scifi, you can close steam
[08:56] <hephaistos> Section "Monitor"
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	Identifier   "Acer AL1916W"
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	Option	    "DPMS"
[08:56] <hephaistos> EndSection
[08:56] <hephaistos> Section "Monitor"
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	Identifier   "aticonfig Monitor 1"
[08:56] <scifi> ok
[08:56] <hephaistos> EndSection
[08:56] <DBO> !paste
[08:56] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[08:56] <hephaistos> Section "Device"
[08:56] <polpak> hephaistos, stop
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 (RV350 AS)"
[08:56] <abbot45> miter, it put /dev/cdrom in automaticly.
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	Driver      "fglrx"
[08:56] <Gadi> hey, is there any way to run the breezy live CD without having it run X?  ie just get to a getty login?
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	Option	    "UseFBDev" "true"
[08:56] <polpak> hephaistos, use pastebin
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	Option	    "DesktopSetup" "horizontal"
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	Option	    "OverlayOnCRTC2" "1"
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
[08:56] <hephaistos> EndSection
[08:56] <hephaistos> Section "Device"
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	Identifier  "ATI Graphics Adapter 1"
[08:56] <DBO> !ops
[08:56] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[08:56] <polpak> !ops
[08:56] <miter> use PASTEBIN!
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	Driver      "fglrx"
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
[08:56] <hephaistos> 	Screen      1
[08:56] <hephaistos> EndSection
[08:56] <hephaistos> Section "Screen"
[08:56] <scifi> polpak: direct rendering: Yes
[08:56] <polpak> he's probably backlogged
[08:57] <miter> hephaistos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (!)
[08:57] <Amaranth> !tell hephaistos about pastebin
[08:57] <AnAnt> why does Ubuntu prefer Grub over Lilo ?
[08:57] <miter> abbot45: when inserting a cd, what happens to you?
[08:57] <Gadi> hey, is there any way to run the breezy live CD without having it run X?  ie just get to a getty login?
[08:57] <polpak> scifi, looks good then
[08:57] <hephaistos> EndSection
[08:57] <hephaistos> Section "Screen"
[08:57] <Amaranth> bleh
[08:58] <revartj> someboy ftp server good??????
[08:58] <polpak> Amaranth, lol, he pasted his whole conf file in 1 go I guess
[08:58] <scifi> polpak: seems to be some sound issues in that terminal log tho, wud that effect performance ?
[08:58] <abbot45> miter, i went into system>preferences>removable drives & media and turned off the option to auto start a ripping program when i put in a CD.
[08:58] <jobezone> _jim_2: good luck, i'm going now...
[08:58] <Warbo> Hello I'm back
[08:58] <mumi> lala
[08:58] <Jebuz> Damn companies.. of corse we can get linux working on a nintendo ds but we cant get the ds to work in linux!! I just want to play metroid
[08:58] <_jim_2> jobezone alright :) cya
[08:58] <Amaranth> hephaistos: Please don't do that again.
[08:58] <jobezone> bye all
[08:58] <polpak> hephaistos, pls use pastebin
[08:58] <hephaistos> sorry i didnt know
[08:58] <scifi> polpak: cus at the moment, i get like movement, freezes, then 20 seconds later movement again, completely unplayable
[08:58] <abbot45> miter, but you can change it to GRIP there if you want.
[08:58] <iceyes> what to do if i cant install with dkpg -i ? a .deb file
[08:59] <Warbo> Gadi: Look through the boot options. If it's anything like KNOPPIX based discs there should be a shell option
[08:59] <iceyes> *dpkg
[08:59] <polpak> scifi, what version of wine are you using?
[08:59] <polpak> scifi, or are you using cedega?
[08:59] <harisund> Gadi, I have been trying to find an answer to that question for ages now.
[08:59] <scifi> wine m8, how do i check version ?
[08:59] <Hagge_> Does anyone know if gcc 4.0.2 in ubuntu (dapper) on amd64 compiles for i386 or amd64 with no march/mcpu?
[09:00] <Hagge_> or could someone somehow find out?
[09:00] <patrick_king> i was wonder if i could get my system to update like every sunday at 3am  is this possible
[09:00] <Warbo> scifi: I think he meant wine, winex or cedega
[09:00] <abbot45> miter, you find the option?
[09:00] <Warbo> patrick_king: You need to set a CRON job. I don't know how though
[09:00] <Hagge_> patrick_king: yeah, with a crontab, aslong as nothing fails
[09:00] <scifi> Warbo/polpal: its just wine afai
[09:00] <DBO> patrick_king, just use a cron job
[09:00] <DBO> doh
[09:00] <polpak> scifi, dpkg -l wine ?
[09:00] <miter> abbot45: yes, thanks, but grip does not recognize the CD, any idea why it says no cd found?
[09:01] <patrick_king> wats a cron job
[09:01] <Hagge_> patrick_king: might be able to add some argument for "always answer yes"
[09:01] <Hagge_> patrick_king: man crontab and crontab -e
[09:01] <Warbo> patrick_king: Are you in Breezy or Dapper?
[09:01] <patrick_king> dapper
[09:01] <iceyes> is dapper a beta?
[09:01] <polpak> iceyes, yes
[09:01] <Warbo> patrick_king: There is a "Schedule" program then. Use that
[09:01] <tatters> how do find the ip of my machine....ipconfig?
[09:01] <Doat> yes
[09:01] <polpak> tatters, ifconfig
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> Warbo: There is?  Where?
[09:01] <hephaistos> i p[aste bin the xorg.conf
[09:01] <scifi> Warbo/polpal:  wine                    0.9.12~winehq1-1
[09:01] <tatters> ah ifconfig thnx
[09:02] <polpak> hephaistos, ok, what's the url?
[09:02] <patrick_king> warbo is there?
[09:02] <Warbo> tonyyarusso: In System Tools. There is for me anyway
[09:02] <hephaistos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12988
[09:02] <abbot45> miter, nope.  is your path /dev/cdrom?
[09:02] <miter> abbot45: i tried /dev/cdrom & /media/cdrom & /dev/hdb (my cd drive). What do you get when you insert a AUDIO-CD and type "mount" in a terminal? Is it shown there?
[09:02] <Hagge_> Noone with enough knowledge which knows if a 64-bit gcc and linux system will build 64 bit code by default or 32bit?
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> Warbo: Hmm, not seeing it.  Could you find out what command it runs for me?
[09:03] <Warbo> Hagge_: I think it will build 64bit, as this is an entire architecture difference, not just a subarchitecture like k7 or 686
[09:03] <b3nw> Hagge_ - check man page of gcc?
[09:03] <polpak> Hagge_, why not compile a test file and check?
[09:03] <aksn> ubuntu in 64  bits works ok??
[09:04] <Warbo> tonyyarusso: /usr/bin/gnome-schedule I am guessing it is from a package "gnome-schedule"
[09:04] <iceyes> i tried to install another webbrowser after half of the installation it appered errors i got it but it dont work what can i do?
[09:04] <patrick_king> warbo: where is the scedule thing
[09:04] <Hagge_> Warbo: yeah, that is that I expected, but I'm benchmarking against gcc in solaris and the solaris values where much worse, but ok with sun studio built 64bit
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> Warbo: Thanks.
[09:04] <scarn> what are the best drivers for nvidia 6800GT?
[09:04] <miter> abbot45: you also build grip from source, didn't you?
[09:04] <Warbo> patrick_king: OK, install the "gnome-schedule" package. It will put it there for you
[09:04] <Hagge_> Warbo: but that might be that the solaris gcc package uses a 32 bit gcc binary and ubuntu 64 bit or something, i can recompile in solaris using march but not in linux since i don't have it installed longer :(
[09:04] <polpak> !tell scarn about nvidia
[09:04] <Hagge_> polpak: to late for that, no ubuntu installed longer
[09:04] <patrick_king> cheers
[09:04] <scarn> ty
[09:04] <XiXaQ> I may have discovered a bug in 5.10. Where and how do I report it?
[09:05] <polpak> XiXaQ, what's the bug?
[09:05] <Hagge_> scarn: the latest ones from nvidia?
[09:05] <abbot45> miter, i just installed it from apt.
[09:05] <Hagge_> polpak: Do you know how to do it and in that case could you check for me?
[09:05] <miter> abbot45: is it there?  didn't found it on breezy :-(
[09:06] <Warbo> Hey, anybody had any experience making their own (dapper) live cd?
[09:06] <XiXaQ> polpak, I am unable to run the live-cd when I'm directly connected to my ADSL modem, but when I configured my router to use PPPoE and act as a DHCP server, then everything went just fine.
[09:06] <abbot45> dev/cdrom doesn't show when i type mount
[09:06] <miter> abbot45: i found it now
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> Warbo: There it is.  In universe, not installed by default.
[09:06] <polpak> XiXaQ, that's not really a bug.. you just have to configure the live cd once you boot to use ppoe
[09:06] <Chris_Tucker> whats a command line application to find for instance, blah.txt, on the entire root?
[09:06] <miter> abbot45: i think i have a too new version of grip for breezym, what is your grip version?
[09:06] <scifi> ne tips then ?
[09:06] <scarn> Hagge whatver will run steam based games like DOD:S. best on ubuntu
[09:06] <Warbo> tonyyarusso: I don't remember specifically installing it, but I do go on mad installing frenzies occasionally :)
[09:07] <majd> Hi
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> Warbo: Same.
[09:07] <XiXaQ> polpak, what do you mean?
[09:07] <majd> what's a daemon?
[09:07] <patrick_king> Warbo: wat would be the command for updates
[09:07] <abbot45> miter, 3.3.1 and i'm using breezy as well.
[09:07] <Warbo> majd: It is a process that runs in the background
[09:07] <scarn> gah, sorry Hagge_ i missed the unsderscore
[09:07] <majd> Warbo, i get this when i try to stop mysql
[09:07] <majd> XAMPP: Another MySQL daemon is already running.
[09:07] <XiXaQ> polpak, I'm not able to run live-cd. It chrashes when trying to ....  what did it say. Load the existing installation?
[09:08] <majd> how can i see what's using it and  kill it
[09:08] <Warbo> patrick_king: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" But this requires a password to be entered
[09:08] <miter> abbot45: installing it from the apt, hoping it will work
[09:08] <polpak> XiXaQ, when the live CD boots up you can follow the PPPOE wikie instructions to make it connect to your ADSL provider.
[09:08] <Hagge_> scarn: well xorg driver wont probably give you any 3d performance at all
[09:08] <Hagge_> scarn: and nvidias will
[09:08] <do> muf
[09:08] <DBO> majd, "ps -ef | grep mysql"
[09:08] <_jim_2> should i delete the old java before install the new one ? because the installation crashes
[09:08] <Hagge_> scarn: google for ubuntu nvidia and follow the instructions
[09:08] <polpak> XiXaQ, if it's crashing, that's a separate issue I think
[09:08] <Warbo> majd: Try "ps ax" or if it is too long "ps ax | less"
[09:08] <scarn> Hagge_ ok thank you
[09:08] <lgc> Hi all! If I increase the memory of my laptop will I make it any faster?
[09:09] <XiXaQ> polpak, but it only chrashes when PPPoE isn't installed. That's why I think it's a bug. I'll try a few more times later to make sure.
[09:09] <Warbo> majd: Then when you find the process, look at it's number on the left and "sudo kill NUMBER" will kill it
[09:09] <abbot45> miter, it should work fine.  its not always the best to get the absolute newest version.  i usually just use the repository versions since i know they will work.
[09:09] <polpak> lgc, depends on what part is being slow?
[09:09] <Hagge_> polpak: Any chance you could find out if it uses 64bit or not by default?
[09:09] <webwolf_27> I have a problem getting cards in the cardreader to automount. Mounting them from the console works but no auto-mount.
[09:09] <DBO> Warbo, if he has another MySQL deamon running, it probably has an init script he can use to kill it more gracefully
[09:09] <scifi> Warbo/polpak: anymore tips for improving performance in CS/steam ?
[09:10] <polpak> Hagge_, I don't have 64 bit.. Best I could do is google, but I'd imagine that it would use 64 bit by default unless you specified the target-arch option or something
[09:10] <Warbo> DBO: Well I am a total tard when it comes to MySQL
[09:10] <XiXaQ> "kill gracefully"... :)
[09:10] <iceyes> where do i check XFree86 version? i tried  script but it dident work
[09:10] <Warbo> scifi: You have "nvidia" driver (either installation method)?
[09:10] <lgc> polpak, anything to do with graphics, from invoking a Gnome menu to closing any window seems to have become irritatingly slow (I recently upgraded to Breezy).
[09:10] <DBO> majd, type "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop"
[09:10] <scifi> Warbo: yes installed it via synaptic as u recommended
[09:11] <XiXaQ> polpak, if I find that it is a bug, then where do I report it? I want to contribute to this society.
[09:11] <polpak> lgc, ah.. yeah, ram would help.. Or waiting another month for dapper would help
[09:11] <abbot45> miter, then again, i'm not a bleeding edge linux geek.  i just want my desktop to work.
[09:11] <polpak> lgc, the version of gnome in breezy is a bit of a hog
[09:11] <Warbo> scifi: OK. Maybe (if it is REALLY bothering you) you could run X in 16bit colour
[09:11] <Hagge_> polpak: ok, thanks
[09:11] <iceyes> where do i check XFree86 version? I tried  script but it dident work
[09:11] <lgc> polpak, that's nice to hear!
[09:11] <Warbo> iceyes: Ubuntu uses Xorg instead of XFree86 usually
[09:12] <DBO> iceyes, ubuntu uses xorg
[09:12] <DBO> gah!
[09:12] <DBO> I need to type... faster
[09:12] <Warbo> DBO: And I can't touch type :)
[09:12] <iceyes> Warbo, hmm i think i need that to install ati drivers. any tip what to do otherwhise?
[09:12] <scifi> Warbo: at the moment is completely unplayable, movement>freezes>20secs later movement>freezes etc. So if just change my desktop colour to 16bit it might help ?
[09:12] <DBO> I can, but Im not really watching this window all the time, Warbo
[09:13] <polpak> iceyes,  dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[09:13] <Warbo> iceyes: Xorg is compatible with XFree86. ATI's "fglrx" or whatever it's called works fine in Xorg
[09:13] <polpak> !tell iceyes about ati
[09:13] <Warbo> scifi: It would help. Don't know if it would sort out such a huge problem though
[09:14] <Warbo> DBO: I have to look at my keyboard when I type, so I would expect to miss posts more
[09:15] <Warbo> OK, if I rebuild a Dapper LiveCD with my own squashfs image will it work straight away, or do I need to redo the hashes and stuff?
[09:15] <scifi> Warbo: not sure how to change to 16bit, cant see it in preferences>screen resolution
[09:15] <polpak> scifi, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:15] <Warbo> scifi: Neither am I. I would comment out the 24bit lines in Xorg, but there must be a simpler way
[09:15] <Warbo> there you go :)
[09:17] <polpak> XiXaQ, applications->system tools->bug report tool
[09:17] <miter> abbot45: still getting this error: CD not found
[09:17] <lgc> polpak, thanks for your help and good bye...
[09:17] <iceyes> how do i install a .run file?
[09:17] <abbot45> miter, hmmm.  i don't know man.  can't really help ya.
[09:18] <abbot45> miter, like i said.  i'm not a linux guru.  just a desktop user.
[09:18] <Warbo> iceyes: Which .run file is it? ATI's? Use the Ubuntu [ackage instead
[09:18] <DBO> iceyes, "sh /path/to/file.run"
[09:18] <scifi> polpak: 1st question is whether to allow ubuntu to auto-detect recommended x-server and driver for my card, shall i say no ?
[09:18] <Warbo> package
[09:18] <polpak> XiXaQ, or https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[09:18] <polpak> scifi, you can have it try
[09:18] <polpak> scifi, it should select nvidia for the driver
[09:18] <iceyes> Warbo ya it was ati's where do i find that?
[09:18] <Warbo> scifi: If you are using nvidia then you can leave it
[09:19] <polpak> !tell iceyes about ati
[09:19] <polpak> iceyes, follow the wiki ubotu sent you
[09:19] <Warbo> iceyes: the linux-restricted-modules package has their driver in it, but I think you may need another package as well. Ask someone
[09:19] <scifi> Warbo/polpak: it brought up a list of drivers, and it had nv highlighted, shall i move down to nvidia and select that ?
[09:19] <abbot45> would you guys recommend using totem-xine over totem-gstreamer?  i'm using the gstreamer version and my imbeded video isn't working.  its playing the first half second then going blank.
[09:19] <polpak> scifi, yes
[09:19] <Warbo> scifi: Yes
[09:19] <polpak> abbot45, I prefer totem-xine
[09:20] <Warbo> abbot45: Gstreamer is bad for video as A/V loses sync.
[09:20] <abbot45> plus, while playing local videos if i try to seek around it starts to get choppy.
[09:20] <iceyes> !linux-restricted-modules package
[09:20] <ubotu> iceyes: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:20] <alxwind> hey, gurus, how shall i configure firestarter properly in order to get a hi-id for amule?
[09:20] <iceyes> where do i find linux-restricted-modules package?
[09:20] <abbot45> polpak, Warbo, thanks.
[09:20] <Warbo> abbot45: Yes, that's a problem with gstreamer0.8. Use Xine or upgrade to Dapper's 0.10
[09:21] <scifi> Warbo: guess i'll have to accept the PCI bus it has detected because dunno what it is
[09:21] <Warbo> scifi: lol
[09:21] <polpak> iceyes, things will go much easier for you if you'd actually read the wiki ubotu sent you
[09:21] <polpak> scifi, the default is probably correct
[09:21] <abbot45> Warbo, I'm probably going to wait for the stable release of Dapper
[09:21] <iceyes> polpak ok
[09:21] <Warbo> iceyes: System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager is your best freind. Learn to love it :)
[09:21] <scifi> Warbo/polpak: no idea what 128meg of video memory is in kb's either :P
[09:22] <Warbo> scifi: That is only for embedded devices which use the system's RAM
[09:22] <polpak> 128 x 1024 = 131072 but you can leave it blank
[09:22] <iceyes> Warbo haha, i thinks its just a lot of seacrhing :p
[09:22] <Warbo> I mean on-board
[09:22] <deep> is anybody here available to help me? I am a linux "noob"
[09:23] <polpak> !justask
[09:23] <Warbo> deep: Post your problem
[09:23] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[09:23] <alxwind> hey, dudes, sorry for my stupidity (i'm very new in ubuntu) how come i can figure out my hostname or ip?
[09:23] <scifi> warbo/polpal: k accepted default, asking me whether to use kernel framebuffer device interface or not now ?
[09:23] <finley> hostname
[09:23] <alxwind> i need such a piece of info to create a rule in firewall
[09:23] <polpak> scifi, don't bother using it
[09:23] <finley> just type it in at a prompt
[09:23] <scifi> k no then
[09:23] <Warbo> scifi: I don;t find that it matters. I chose yes (I use nvidia driver fine)
[09:23] <deep> k well i just messed up my version of win xp home, and now i am trying to recover some things. my friends gave me ubuntu, but im a unsure of how to get to the c drive
[09:23] <scifi> o for gods sake
[09:23] <finley> "ifconfig" to get your iop
[09:23] <polpak> scifi, it won't do anything either way. I just disable it
[09:24] <polpak> deep, is it a live cd?
[09:24] <alxwind> ifconfig shows my dynamic ip
[09:24] <deep> yes
[09:24] <scifi> k gonna acceot defaults for the rest of these settings i think
[09:24] <Warbo> deep: The drive should be called "/dev/hda1" I think. You can get files from it, but if it is NTFS (usually it is) then cannot write to it
[09:24] <alxwind> and it changes every time i reconnect
[09:24] <alxwind> or redile whatever
[09:24] <abbot45> is there a program with a GUI that will let me search for wifi networks in the area?  I have wi-fi radar but i don't see any option to search.  you have to know the network name or something.
[09:24] <polpak> !tell deep about mount
[09:24] <scifi> pc105 as keyboard layout ? :P
[09:25] <Amaranth> abbot45: in dapper there is network manager
[09:25] <polpak> !tell deep about windowsdrives
[09:25] <Amaranth> abbot45: in breezy you can do it manually
[09:25] <abbot45> Amaranth, using breezy
[09:25] <Amaranth> abbot45: open a terminal, run 'sudo iwlist scan'
[09:25] <deep> all i can see if filesystem
[09:25] <polpak> Amaranth, breezy has a network manager also that will search for wireless networks..
[09:26] <abbot45> Amaranth, but there isn't any programs?  I don't like to use the terminal usually unless i have to.
[09:26] <Amaranth> !info network-manager breezy
[09:26] <Warbo> deep: Everything is IN filesystem. You don't get assigned stupid letters for drives, you put them where you want
[09:26] <ubotu> network-manager: (network management framework daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.4.1+cvs20050817-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 295 kB, Installed size: 1384 kB
[09:26] <Amaranth> oh, cool
[09:26] <Amaranth> !info network-manager-gnome breezy
[09:26] <crimsun> that is breezy above. You have to ask for dapper explicitly.
[09:27] <Amaranth> crimsun: i wanted breezy
[09:27] <deep> warbo, so how can i get into my win xp files?
[09:27] <lsuactiafner> if i have 2 network cards, which are bridged, one connects to the external lan, the other to the internal lan, how do i stop mac addresses from being broadcasted to the external lan?
[09:27] <polpak> abbot45, you can go to system->administration->networking, click on your wireless card, click "Properties" and the dropdown for essid should give you the list of wireless networks you can see
[09:28] <Amaranth> can't remember the name of the gnome applet for network manager in breezy
[09:28] <scifi> Warbo/polpak: mentions MESA libraries in this x-server config to get DRI working, i dont think i have those installed
[09:28] <majd> how can i apply a permission change to all folders in a folder and their subfolders/files?
[09:28] <scifi> and wud explain the drop-back to sotware mode
[09:28] <polpak> Amaranth, network-admin
[09:28] <Amaranth> polpak: that's something different
[09:29] <polpak> Amaranth, then I misunderstood the question =)
[09:29] <crimsun> Amaranth: pass the source package to apt-cache showsrc; I don't remember if there is a binary package fro that one
[09:29] <Amaranth> crimsun: i use dapper :P
[09:29] <Amaranth> trying to help abbot45
[09:30] <scifi> Warbo/polpak: dbe, vbe and record options are not checked as modules to be loaded by default, do i needs these ??
[09:30] <crimsun> well, if there is one in breezy, it's not generated from the network-manager srcpkg
[09:30] <Warbo> deep: mount your partition (/dev/hda1 I assume) anywhere you want. /mnt would do fine. So open a terminal and type "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt" and then go to Filesystem /mnt
[09:31] <Warbo> scifi: Idoubt it. Also with Nvidia don't load DRI or GLCore
[09:31] <dark_fibre> abbot45, what is wifi radar?
[09:31] <scifi> Warbo: Really? cus those r selected
[09:31] <scifi> Warbo: so definitely de-select them ?
[09:31] <Warbo> scifi: I know, they work on others but 1) Nvidia haven't implemented DRI yet and 2) The GLCore is not needed, only GLX
[09:32] <steve343> yay
[09:32] <steve343> hi all
[09:32] <scifi> ok will deselect them
[09:32] <Warbo> steve343: Hi
[09:32] <abbot45> polpak, nope.  just says "any" and doesn't give any other options.
[09:32] <steve343> im screwed :) all cos i put ununtu on a scratched disk
[09:33] <Warbo> DAMMIT! My CD image is 745MB :( (I can always test it in Qemu)
[09:33] <scifi> Warbo: erm not sure how to deselect them :P
[09:33] <Warbo> scifi: Press space over them
[09:33] <steve343> im such a dum ass
[09:33] <deep> warbo, the "foldes contents could not be displayed"
[09:33] <Warbo> scifi: Then Tab to get back to OK Cancel
[09:33] <dark_fibre> i'm trying to install the graphical file explorer from jurassic park (fsv). when i run ./compile it says "configure: error: Cannot find proper GTK+ version". slocate could not find gtk-config and i don't know what package i should install. can someone please help?
[09:34] <abbot45> polpak, when i go to that essid drop down it just says "any" and doesn't give anything else.
[09:34] <alxwind> ANYONE! help! how can i find out my hostname?
[09:34] <Warbo> deep: Hmmm. Simplest way would be "sudo nautilus" but be careful
[09:34] <alxwind> is it localhost, 127.0.0.1, 192.168.0.1 or anything else?
[09:34] <Warbo> alxwind: "hostname"
[09:34] <steve343> well basically can resising an ntfc partition screw it up?
[09:34] <alxwind> well i did that thing
[09:34] <scifi> Warbo: ok ty. next setting, "write default files section to config file? y/n ?
[09:34] <Warbo> alxwind: It is all of those. The one for a firewall would be 192.something
[09:35] <alxwind> and firestarter doesn't like that hostname
[09:35] <miter> hello, what's the command to reinstall software w/ apt-get?
[09:35] <Warbo> scifi: Have you been asked about resolutions yet?
[09:35] <heero> hello
[09:35] <Warbo> miter: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[09:35] <heero> i has update from xfree to xorg
[09:35] <heero> but my keyboard dont works
[09:35] <monomaniacpat> Hi guys!
[09:35] <scifi> Warbo: no not yet
[09:35] <alxwind> i'm trying to add a rule to firestarter to "open" 4662nd port for amule
[09:35] <heero> because dont can find the symbols
[09:35] <steve343> usb keybourd?
[09:35] <heero> any idea?
[09:36] <monomaniacpat> Can you help me with a wlan0 problem?
[09:36] <heero> is a ps/2 keyboard
[09:36] <heero> is a laptop
[09:36] <Warbo> scifi: This seems like the last step (writing the file)
[09:36] <alxwind> and it says there is problem with my network interface
[09:36] <alxwind> though there isn't
[09:36] <eneried> i have a simple request, i don't know how to fix it :(
[09:36] <heero> i think is by the update :s
[09:36] <steve343> does the laptop kb work?
[09:36] <alxwind> :'(
[09:36] <deep> what does sudo nautilus do?
[09:36] <heero> yep works, after of update
[09:36] <monomaniacpat> anyone?
[09:36] <heero> im now using it in console
[09:36] <steve343> k
[09:36] <Warbo> alxwind: You need to open that on your router, for your 192.168.something.something address of your PC
[09:36] <scifi> Warbo: its doing monitor auto-detection settings now, so probly resolution next
[09:37] <Jebuz> hey guys i just ran into a very odd issue. In Gnome, i can read and write to my USB drive. when i log out of my gnome session and start KDE i can no longer mount the drive .. whould i have to unmount before i logout?
[09:37] <alxwind> warbo, i don't have a router
[09:37] <Warbo> scifi: OOK, let it work out your monitor. If it gets it wrong give some generic stuff
[09:37] <alxwind> i have a dsl-modem
[09:37] <miter> "Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_hide: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[09:37] <miter> ": what could this error mean?
[09:37] <alxwind> and a pc and that's it
[09:37] <steve343> when you log out doesnt it auto dismount?
[09:37] <monomaniacpat> patrick@ubuntu:~$ sudo pump -k
[09:37] <monomaniacpat> patrick@ubuntu:~$ sudo pump -i wlan0
[09:37] <monomaniacpat> Operation failed.
[09:37] <scifi> Warbo: its just called it Generic_montior
[09:37] <roryy> Jebuz: you can run 'mount' to find out what devices are mounted; it's probably already mounted
[09:37] <Warbo> alxwind: Is your DSL Modem connected with Ethernet (network)?
[09:38] <alxwind> warbo, yes it is
[09:38] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone tell me what to do when I get this error whilst trying to activate my pcmcia card?
[09:38] <Warbo> scifi: That will usually do
[09:38] <alxwind> eth0 to be precisely
[09:38] <Warbo> alxwind: Then you have a router :)
[09:38] <Jebuz> roryy: k I'll try .. now to kill x
[09:38] <scifi> Warbo: ok resolutions now
[09:38] <Warbo> alxwind: (with a modem in it)
[09:38] <eneried> how to make nautilus show things with bigger fonts?
[09:38] <scifi> Warbo: its found the right 3 so will acept
[09:39] <alxwind> warbo, cool ;) but shall i do with it?
[09:39] <Warbo> scifi: Choose the ones you want. It will default to the highest it can use (due to hardware and your choices)
[09:39] <roryy> eneried: have you tried System -> Preferences -> Font ?
[09:39] <Hagge_> Could someone with an amd64 install of ubuntu run gcc -v and send me the results?
[09:39] <Warbo> alxwind: You need to log into it, usually by pointing your browser to it's IP address
[09:39] <eneried> rorry, i didn't know that control :">, thanks :)
[09:39] <joerg> .
[09:39] <majd> how can i apply a chmod change to a folder and it's contents?
[09:40] <roryy> eneried: cool.
[09:40] <Warbo> majd: add -R option
[09:40] <DrBanzai> Anybody here use qemu?
[09:40] <alxwind> warbo: sorry man, i'm a such a novice and i don't have a clue how to log in to my er router
[09:40] <Warbo> DrBanzai: I do
[09:40] <DrBanzai> Warbo, How did you install it?
[09:40] <eneried> rorry, ;) cool
[09:40] <Warbo> alxwind: Just go in Firefox and put in your router's IP address (usually 192.168.thesamenumberasyourpc.1
[09:40] <alxwind> warbo: and i don't know what is it's ip
[09:41] <monomaniacpat> Am I talking to myself?
[09:41] <scifi> Warbo: its giving me the option of "simple, medium or advanced" to configure monitor refresh rates, i think i had to use advanced before to force it to increase refresh rate from 65 to 85 (i used monitors manual for ranges)
[09:41] <Warbo> DrBanzai: I used the source. I think I used checkinstall, but I think it's broken in Dapper so I must have make installed it
[09:41] <roryy> monomaniacpat: looks like no-one on right now knows; try again a bit later
[09:41] <Warbo> scifi: Do that then
[09:42] <Hoxzer> What could be called for Help if I'm unable to play anime video file with VLC, Mplayer or Xine
[09:42] <Hoxzer> ?
[09:42] <DrBanzai> I used the instructions here: http://oui.com.br/n/content.php?article.23 but I didn't have the correct kernel sources installed, so now I need to uninstall it and start over.  How would I do that?
[09:42] <alxwind> Warbo: it doesn't respond - i've tried to connect to 192.168.0.1
[09:43] <majd> Warbo, i don't know how to do it from the terminal
[09:43] <osh_> the fglrx-files in the repos, are they the closed source ones or the open ones?
[09:43] <Warbo> alxwind: Try 192.168.1.1 intead. They might use either
[09:43] <Warbo> majd: Example "chmod 777 directory -R"
[09:43] <alxwind> Warbo: it doesn't connect ether
[09:43] <roryy> osh_: it should be in the restricted (or maybe multiverse, i'm not sure) repository if it's closed source
[09:43] <Warbo> majd: Or "chown chris Files -R"
[09:44] <Warbo> alxwind: Let it use DHCP to connect
[09:44] <osh_> roryy: so if I want to keep my "system suspend" feature on my laptop I should probably keep these files off my system then.
[09:44] <Warbo> DrBanzai: If you "make install"ed then use "make uninstall", if you used checkinstall get rid of the package. After it's uninstalled "make clean" will reset the source code to defaults
[09:44] <scifi> Warbo: ok now its asking me about colour depths.im wondering that if now i have selected "nvidia" at the beginning i will get hardware acceleration and wont need to drop this colour depth to 16bit as u suggested; what u think ?
[09:45] <roryy> osh_: that i don't know about, sorry
[09:45] <Warbo> scifi: Well, I thought you were using nvidia before anyway?
[09:45] <iceman> ok, anyone here installed openstep before
[09:45] <alxwind> Warbo: i don't know how ;(
[09:46] <alxwind> Warbo: any command in console or special config?
[09:46] <patrick24601> Is there a muth tv or myth channel ubuntu sompelace?
[09:46] <NickGarvey> I am using du to list the the contents of my hard drive and I want to sort the files in descending order, how would I do that?
[09:46] <Warbo> alxwind: System>Administration>Networking Choose your device (eth0) Configure, DHCP, OK, Activate
[09:46] <osh_> roryy: ok, thanks anyway. perhaps you know how to see which repo a file comes from? is that possible?
[09:46] <scifi> Warbo: i thought i was, but at the start of this x-server config it had "nv" already highlighted so not sure if it was "using" nvidia even tho i had it installed
[09:46] <iceman> whats standard designation of a cdrom in linux ? to mount it ... drive e ...
[09:46] <roryy> osh_: 'apt-cache show packagename'
[09:46] <scifi> Warbo: will 16bit look noticeably different to 24bit ?
[09:46] <monomaniacpat> thanks roryy
[09:46] <NickGarvey> iceman: drives don't have letters, try mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[09:47] <osh_> roryy: thanks a bunch.
[09:47] <Warbo> scifi: You have to tell X to use it after installing it. You probably wont need to reduce colours then (my dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg chooses nvidia by default, as that is what I use)
[09:47] <osh_> roryy: thanks a bunch.
[09:47] <NickGarvey> oh and I just piped it to sort and it worked
[09:47] <osh_> ...twice...
[09:47] <minerale> how may I see a list of the recent reboots?
[09:47] <NickGarvey> even though.. 100k is greater than 10G..
[09:47] <Warbo> scifi: I think 16bit makes gradients look weird. On 3D stuff you shouldn't notice it really (as it will be rendered specially for 16bit, not reduced)
[09:48] <scifi> Warbo: what was the command to tell X to use nvidia ?
[09:48] <roryy> NickGarvey: try du|sort -n (unfortunately --si won't work with sorting)
[09:48] <Warbo> scifi: The one you ran was "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but you can do it with a text editor as well (like "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf")
[09:49] <NickGarvey> roryy: oh the -n is nice, thank you
[09:49] <scifi> Warbo: hmmm gonna try 24bit, we can hopefully edit it to 16bit later then
[09:49] <Warbo> I'm going to test my CD in Qemu now...
[09:49] <juztin> has anyone used the vanilall kernel with realtime preemption?  i'm wondering how badly it will break ubuntu...
[09:50] <juztin> *vanilla
[09:50] <beta_m> i have 2 network cards, and i want to use my computer to control the network in my room (NAT and all) and route traffic through itself... where do i read up on that
[09:50] <DrBanzai> Warbo, Anyhow, now I get Loading the KQEMU kernel module...
[09:50] <DrBanzai> FATAL: Error inserting kqemu (/lib/modules/2.6.10-6-k7/misc/kqemu.ko): Invalid module format
[09:50] <scifi> Warbo: ok its finished config, do i need to restart x ?
[09:51] <brosioz> to nat my internet connection
[09:51] <brosioz> i only need to do
[09:51] <brosioz> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[09:51] <brosioz> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[09:51] <tijn> **** Jumps up, grabs the trout and puts its back in the river.. Another trout saved!
[09:51] <tdn> When browsing files and folders in Gnome, I have the default view of "Icons" in stead of "List". How do I change the default mode to "List"? I can't see anywhere to do this.
[09:51] <brosioz> where eth1 is my internet connection ?
[09:52] <juztin> tdn, in the top right of mine, there is a drop down menu to choose 'list'
[09:52] <tdn> juztin, yes I know. But that is not what I'm asking for.
[09:52] <Warbo> DrBanzai: I get that message. I tried forcing, but it doesn't use it
[09:52] <tdn> juztin, I want to change the _default_ behavior.
[09:52] <juztin> tdn, ah
[09:52] <juztin> tdn, my bad :D
[09:52] <tdn> juztin, not just for the selected foldr.e
[09:52] <Warbo> scifi: Yes, restart X. Logout then press ctrl-alt-backspace to make sure
[09:53] <DrBanzai> Warbo, So it should work anyway?
[09:54] <Warbo> DrBanzai: It says "Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated" even when I force the module to load (to get rid of the warning)
[09:54] <daaku> anyone know how to do multi-line substitutions using sed? (the 'm' flag doesnt seem to cut it)
[09:54] <Warbo> DrBanzai: Qemu doesn't need the accelerator, but it speeds it up A LOT
[09:55] <x1n933k> CAn anyone tell me what apt-get package gets me GCC?
[09:55] <DrBanzai> Warbo, Yeah, that's what I heard...Anyway I can pull it all out and start over?
[09:55] <kent> x1n933k: build-essential
[09:55] <Warbo> alxwind: Are you on the net?
[09:55] <x1n933k> Thanks kent
[09:55] <brosioz> anyone could help
[09:56] <Warbo> DrBanzai: Yes. Did you use "sudo make install" or "sudo checkinstall" to install it? (I can't be bothered to read the guide)
[09:57] <roryy> tdn: take a look in the configuration editor (Appl -> Sys Tools -> Conf Editor)
[09:57] <DrBanzai> Warbo, checkinstall
[09:57] <tdn> roryy, what to look for?
[09:57] <roryy> tdn: the /apps/nautilus/preferences/default_folder_viewer key looks promising
[09:58] <roryy> tdn: a little bit obscure, but at least it's there
[09:58] <tdn> roryy, als I do not have any App->Sys tools->Conf editor.
[09:58] <roryy> tdn: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor.  Are you running Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[09:58] <Warbo> DrBanzai: Then you should find an installed package if you search in Synaptic, or use "sudo apt-cache search qemu", just uninstall that package the run "make clean" in the qemu source directory to clean out your configuration (make it default again, ready for./configure)
[09:58] <scifi> Warbo: steam just as slow :(
[09:59] <DrBanzai> Warbo, Okay, thanks, I'll give it a shot
[09:59] <LazyMukke> is there a diferent version of ubuntu for dual core prossesors ?
[09:59] <Warbo> scifi: I know WINE isn't terribly fast. The demo of Flash (the program, not the player) ran really slow, and that's not 3D!
[09:59] <tdn> roryy, no. 6.06.
[09:59] <scifi> Warbo: can i change default colour depth from 24 to 16 using that sudo nano command and editing the entry ?
[09:59] <Warbo> LazyMukke: Just use the "smp" kernel (I think it does it by default)
[09:59] <roryy> tdn: ah. Try asking in #ubuntu+1 -- ask your question, and also how to get to gconf
[10:00] <tdn> +1?
[10:00] <Warbo> scifi: You could, but you would have to work it out yourself. You could go through the questions again and change the colour answer intead
[10:00] <roryy> tdn: yeah, the channel for 6.06 while it's still pre-release
[10:00] <LazyMukke> Warbo : is there a setting i have to change then cause at system monitor he only shows 1 cpu
[10:01] <scifi> Warbo: chnaged the entry from 24 to 16, how do i save that now ?
[10:02] <Inner|RE> is we is, or is we aint?
[10:02] <Warbo> LazyMukke: I don't know (as I've never tried it), but running "uname -r" will tell you your kernel's name. If it says smp then you should be using however many processors you have (as long as it isn't over 255)
[10:03] <Warbo> scifi: If you are in the dpkg-reconfigure just go OK until it saves. In nano press ctrl-x (then Y to save, then enter for the same filename)
[10:03] <bliss1_> hi
[10:03] <tdn> roryy, ok.
[10:04] <krikri> hello
[10:04] <roryy> LazyMukke: i believe need to explicitly install an smp kernel (should be fairly easy with Synaptic or apt-get)
[10:04] <scifi> Warbo: ok done, gonna try steam again
[10:04] <Warbo> Anyone think of a simple reason my remastered live cd isn't booting in qemu?
[10:04] <krikri> ya des francofile ici?
[10:04] <kIOski> what should i do if i cnat kill a process using the kill -9 command
[10:04] <roryy> !fr
[10:04] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:04] <deep> Stilll need some help getting into my win XP partition, if anybody knows how, tell me plz, im running ubuntu LIVE
[10:04] <kIOski> cnat = cant
[10:04] <miter> is it possible to have an ERROR message when a USB drive is FULL?
[10:04] <bliss1_> I want to reinstall bb 5-10 but i have postfix running how to keep the config so it installs easy on new install
[10:04] <DBO> kIOski, are you sure its not a zombie?
[10:05] <kIOski> klos     17215  0.7 29.9 415444 310096 ?       R    21:44   0:09 vi messages
[10:05] <kIOski> no im not
[10:05] <kIOski> how to find out
[10:05] <DBO> kIOski, run the top command and look at the zombie count
[10:05] <Warbo> deep: "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt" "sudo nautilus" will give you a super user file browser with which to copy files from /mnt
[10:06] <bliss1_> DBO: i was really scared of zombie;s for a long time
[10:06] <deep> yes but i can't find where my winxp stuff is
[10:07] <Warbo> deep: It is in /mnt (/ is the "filesystem" in "computer")
[10:07] <miter> is it possible to have an ERROR message when a USB drive is FULL? i don't get nothing, the disk is full without me noticing it
[10:07] <DBO> bliss1_, yes, I fear zombie processes more... they are a sign of a larger problem
[10:08] <Warbo> miter: From command line cp or mv will give errors (Device is full)
[10:08] <bliss1_> DBO: no i mean the living dead!
[10:08] <DBO> bliss1_, yes I know
[10:08] <miter> Warbo: why is there no normal error message like in windows? ...
[10:08] <Warbo> bliss1_: You can killthem with a KILL signal to the head
[10:08] <DBO> bliss1_, not in linux!
[10:09] <DBO> erm
[10:09] <DBO> that was for Warbo
[10:09] <bliss1_> DBO: yes its -9
[10:09] <tombs> please, the ubuntu installer is the same as from debian?
[10:09] <DBO> zombies do not respond to kill -9
[10:09] <Warbo> miter: Because Ubuntu is not windows. I think Nautilus will give messages like "Source does not fit on Destination" or similar (those words are from Amiga OS, but they are ingrained in my brain from 720K floppies :))
[10:09] <EddieX> Are there any packages for ubuntus stockkernel, with a preemptive scheduling scheme?
[10:10] <alxwind_> Warbo: when i activated DHCP under network connections (i chnaged it to dynamic) i lost my connection
[10:10] <bliss1_> DBO; i going to reinstall want to know how to keep my postfix config so i have no problems on reinstall--no zombie comments please
[10:10] <Warbo> alxwind_: Then put it back
[10:10] <Jowi> miter: it depends on what you call a normal error message. i need to go to microsofts website to find out the exact fault that cause a bluescreen. sometimes i have to search google to find out what an error in linux mean. same thing, different systems.
[10:10] <miter> Warbo: typing cp gives me nothing but "no arguments, type cp --help"
[10:10] <alxwind_> Warbo: and i had to run pppoeconf script to get my dsl connect running
[10:11] <miter> Jowi: i just mean TIHS PARTICULAR message of a full usb device
[10:11] <bliss1_> DBO: reinstall bb 5-10
[10:11] <Warbo> miter: cp is the copy command. I meant that "cp myfiles /my/usb/disk" will give an error if myfiles doesn't fit on /my/usb/disk
[10:11] <miter> ahh
[10:11] <miter> and mv is for "move" right?
[10:11] <alxwind_> Warbo: i tried to put it back but loose my connection in a sec
[10:11] <Warbo> alxwind_: Are you sure? The Networking tool did it for me fine
[10:12] <alxwind_> Warbo: i had to rerun pppoeconf to get connected again
[10:12] <miter> also when i eject the usb device and let it plugged in it automatically mount again after some seconds (approx. 10s)?
[10:12] <Mersault> is there a ubuntu package for apache 2.2 out yet?
[10:12] <Warbo> miter: mv is move correct. But Nautilus does give errors if you copy things to full devices. By the way "df" command will show you disk usage
[10:13] <McScruff> lo all, is there a linux app to add drm protection to files?
[10:13] <Mersault> either that or where would I find the ./configure options used to build the 2.0.x version of apache for the ubuntu package?
[10:13] <scifi> Warbo: made some progress!!!, software mode now runs pretty much perfectly, opengl now works, but still VERY slow
[10:13] <Warbo> miter: That is 'cos it is constantly scanning the interfaces. The moral is: Only eject it when you are going to unplug it
[10:14] <scifi> D3D still dont work at all
[10:14] <Warbo> scifi: That's weird. Software mode usually runs really badly. Oh well, as long as it runs
[10:14] <miter> why hmm supposing people do not use command line to *MOVE* a simple file to an usb-drive, the error message on full-disk should really be default.... :-(
[10:14] <Warbo> miter: You cannot do that anyway
[10:14] <Hexidigital> good day everyone
[10:14] <Jowi> hello Hexidigital
[10:15] <miter> well that's a request for the gnome people then
[10:15] <miter> basic function that is
[10:15] <Warbo> miter: If you copy to another place on the same disk/partition you will move the file (dragging). If you cut/paste it will "move" but it will copy FIRST then delete the old one. If copy fails the old one is still there
[10:15] <alxwind_> Warbo: do i really need a firewall?
[10:15] <Hexidigital> it's not a good day, Jowi... very aggrivated today
[10:16] <Hexidigital> reinstalled my computer... 2 times
[10:16] <alxwind_> Warbo: i mean is there such a threat like in windows box
[10:16] <Warbo> alxwind_: Not really, but a router still needs to forward ports (mldonkey gives me low IDs because I haven't forwarded my ports)
[10:16] <Jowi> does not sound very fun Hexidigital
[10:16] <alxwind_> Warbo: oh, as soon as turn the firestarter off i get hi-id
[10:17] <Hexidigital> Jowi... no, it's not... and it's still not right... my nvidia drivers aren't working properly... cannot get my router to get to the 'net.... very bad day... i think i'll hibernate for a bit
[10:17] <gamma> my system is borked.. need help
[10:17] <Mersault> has anyone put together an apache2.2 package for ubuntu? or would someone be kind enough to show me how to find the ./configure line used to configure the regular package for apache 2.0.x for ubuntu? I'm new to ubuntu, but not to linux, so compiling it myself doesn't scare me...
[10:17] <gamma> Setting up shared-mime-info (0.17-0ubuntu9) ...
[10:17] <gamma> syntax error in control file: '=Rg at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 680, <IN> line 1.
[10:17] <alxwind_> Warbo: as far as surf the ner without firestarted turned on i don't have any problems
[10:17] <alxwind_> Warbo: at least not yet
[10:17] <bliss1_> DBO: zombie's do not drink coffee so your ok
[10:18] <alxwind_> Warbo: i'm simply afraid to "catch" somekind of linux trojan or whatever
[10:18] <Warbo> miter: I meant to say that dragging from one disc to another will copy, leaving the original (what's the point deleting it?) while on the same partition/drive will move it (what's the point making another?). Cut/Pate lets you move from one drive to another, but cannot lose data for reason I said before. That is basic OS functionality. If windows has the "feature" to endanger your data I wouldn't be suprised...
[10:18] <zith> is there a standard way to figure out the load on the processor and how much memory is being used?
[10:18] <alxwind_> Warbo: like if run windows i don't even connect to the interner without antivirus and firewall both running
[10:19] <Hexidigital> back to the drawing board... see you guys around
[10:19] <DBO> bliss1_, even with all those brains I eat?
[10:19] <alxwind_> Warbo: is it the same point for linux mashine?
[10:19] <HumanPrototype> hi all
[10:19] <Warbo> alxwind_: Catching a trojan is your own fault, in other words the firewall won't stop it because you specifically ask for it (usually thinking it's something else, ie. Trojan)
[10:19] <roryy> zith: have you tried 'top' (in a terminal)
[10:19] <HumanPrototype> is there a lightweight alternative to firefox?
[10:19] <Jowi> Hexidigital: I had a good day yesterday. got xcomposite to work brilliant. i am very happy about it. today i notice there is a bug, if i have xcomposite enabled firefox crashes if the flashplugin is installed. i had to chose between flash or window shadows. shadows won :)
[10:19] <miter> Warbo: you missunderstood me: when i want to copy/move a file TO an removable USB-Drive and this is one is full, i get NO ERROR message of it being full
[10:19] <roryy> zith: applications -> system tools -> system monitor is that same idea, but GUI
[10:19] <HumanPrototype> I have managed to break firefox and not even a reinstall will fix
[10:20] <bliss1_> DBO: you just drink what to speak of eating!
[10:20] <Warbo> alxwind_: The things which firewalls stop are viruses (which you don't ask for) and hackers (ditto). There are VERY few (none?) Linux viruses active, and hackers are unlikely to target you
[10:20] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: what did you do?
[10:20] <Warbo> miter: You should (I do)
[10:21] <alxwind_> Warbo: well, then what are the linux firewalls for?
[10:21] <miter> Warbo: hmm
[10:21] <miter> Warbo: do you use grip?
[10:21] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, I tried to install swiftfox and set it up in place of firefox but now it cant find libmozjs.so and neither swiftfox or firefox work
[10:21] <alxwind_> Warbo: is it the paranoidal thing to bother if i have firewall or not?
[10:21] <Introvert> Does anyone know where I can get a 4-pin to SATA power adapter or whatnot?
[10:21] <gamma> alxwind_: if your gateway computer uses linux but your desktop computers use windows, it stops crap at the source
[10:21] <Warbo> alxwind_: They are for people like linux pros, who get incredibly paranoid (for instance, a program crashing is usually seen as a major security flaw)
[10:22] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76,  to top it all I am running fluxbox so epiphany wont work and dillo is just too basic for my needs
[10:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alxwind_: They're useful for protection against targetted attacks, the occasional general exploit (very rare though these are), and in cases where the box is serving as a gateway.
[10:22] <Warbo> miter: I do, but not for a while
[10:22] <gamma> alxwind_: you don't need a firewall or a virus scanner in linux
[10:22] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: galeon?
[10:22] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: that could work
[10:22] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, isnt that for gnome as well?
[10:22] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: shit
[10:22] <raptros-v76> oops
[10:22] <scifi> lol now software mode wont run properly  :P
[10:23] <alxwind_> warbo and all: ok, 10x very much for you crystal explanation
[10:23] <miter> Warbo: do you ANY idea, why it does not recognize the CD? (it jsut recognized it ONCE): I've set /media/cdrom as the path to CD...
[10:23] <alxwind_> *your
[10:23] <Warbo> scifi: What did you do? If it ain't broke...
[10:23] <Introvert> HumanPrototype: Last time I checked it didn't matter if it was 'for gnome' just as long as you had GTK/etc it works.
[10:23] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, yeah, fluxbox is great until you hit something you cant do or a prob you cant solve...
[10:23] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: ok, lets see, try and reinstall both firefox and mozilla
[10:23] <gamma> looks like im going to have to reinstall ubuntu :/
[10:23] <scifi> Warbo: just went back from trying opengl to software mode
[10:23] <ayabara> Is there a way to convert NTFS to FAT32? I want to get rid of windows, but I have a lot of data on my laptop hd and on an external hd. Both are formatted as ntfs, and I don't want to have to burn all of it
[10:23] <osh_> Anyone have info about OSS-drivers for ATI X600 in Dapper? Is there any chance of that?
[10:24] <Introvert> ayabara: Linux has read support for NTFS, so copy to your harddrive, and reformat it, put it back on?
[10:24] <Warbo> miter: Errr.... Maybe because you gave it /media/cdrom? That is the MOUNT POINT, not the DRIVE. Use /dev/hdc or something (cat /dev/fstab to find it)
[10:24] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: ive never used anything but gnome ( i need to have my computer be reliable, i cant risk screwing it up)
[10:24] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, im trying galeon now
[10:24] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: alright
[10:24] <bliss1_> DBO: what does ubuntu do for you that other linux distro's did not do?
[10:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ayabara: Take a look at Captive.  It's a WINE-like way of getting access to NTFS, and though I haven't used it myself, I have heard good things about it. http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[10:24] <Mystery47> hello all!
[10:25] <miter> Warbo: also tried /dev/cdrom and trying dev/hdb (my cdrom drive) the program does not open any more (crash, error ,etc...)
[10:25] <DBO> ayabara, that is the most interesting questionm with a most depressing answer.  No you cannot convert it easily
[10:25] <Mystery47> is there some good way and secure way to update breezy to dapper?
[10:25] <Rudemeister> Rudemeister:
[10:25] <iceman> anyone familure with unix comands
[10:25] <DBO> ayabara, you have three options, A) stay with NTFS B) reformat FAT32 or C) shell out for partition tragic
[10:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mystery47: How secure is 'secure' for you?
[10:25] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, brilliant! galeon worked! Thanks so much!
[10:25] <Warbo> miter: /dev/cdrom will only work if you have made it a lij=nk to your drive (hdb). If you run it with hdb and it crashes then that is a bug
[10:25] <roryy> !tell Mystery47 about upgrade
[10:26] <Warbo> AAAhh! What the hell was that? I meant link
[10:26] <miter> Warbo: how can you make/manage those links?
[10:26] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: sure.  ive never used galeon, it seems to NOT work in gnome
[10:26] <Introvert> Does anyone know where I can get a 4-pin to SATA power adapter or whatnot?
[10:26] <Mystery47> i just have good and working breezy....now....but is there some way to get newest packages or some dapper added...?
[10:26] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: or at least, not on my system
[10:26] <roryy> Mystery47: packages are signed with GPG keys; if you have obtained them in a secure way (say, off an official ubuntu CD), you should be OK
[10:26] <Warbo> miter: You can do it graphically if you are super user, but simplest way is "sudo ln -s /dev/hdb /dev/cdrom"
[10:26] <ayabara> DBO: partition tragic sounds very scary. I have a 100GB laptop and a 300GB harddrive and both of them are almost full.
[10:26] <bliss1_> ayabara; or pay $10 to eaynews and get lots of software free!
[10:26] <roryy> Mystery47: check your messages from ubotu
[10:26] <Mystery47> maybe working web camera stuff...
[10:26] <thingfish> something up with http://us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[10:26] <bliss1_> easynews
[10:26] <iceman> Dang dang dang ... how to get the openstep install floppy to find me cdrom ?
[10:26] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, how odd. I thought it was meant to be the gnome browser for powerusers (epiphany being the simple one for  n00bs)
[10:27] <tonyyarusso> thingfish: Don't know about now, but that one's often sketchy.
[10:27] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: actually, its the other way around
[10:27] <Mystery47> ok
[10:27] <thingfish> thanks, tonyyarusso
[10:27] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: that confused me for a while too
[10:27] <miter> Warbo: also how to REMOVE those links?
[10:27] <DBO> ayabara, thats why we so lovingly call it partition tragic (its real name is partition magic).  Converting back to FAT32 has a fairly high failure rate, probably around 20%
[10:27] <roryy> Mystery47: note that dapper is still pre-release.
[10:27] <Warbo> miter "sudo rm /dev/cdrom"
[10:27] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, oh ok then, well im just glad it works atm - im going to try and get firefox back but i need a webrowser... (who doesnt) and links couldnt cut it
[10:28] <mastertsunami> anyone know if there is a problem with the repos
[10:28] <ayabara> if the Captive solution PuMpErNiCkLe suggested works, maybe I could stay with ntfs, but I don't really want to :-/
[10:28] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: yeah, that makes sense
[10:28] <Warbo> mastertsunami: Works fine for me
[10:28] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: btw, you know you can install firefox 1.5, theres a howto somewhere on the ubuntu wiki.
[10:29] <ayabara> DBO: 20%??? that scared me off..
[10:29] <bliss1_> ayabara: burning to DVD should not be a big deal
[10:29] <DBO> ayabara, that was the idea, I dont think you should try it without backups
[10:29] <mastertsunami> I've been stuck on "waiting for headers" now for almost 20 minutes...
[10:29] <mastertsunami> and before it was crawling :(
[10:30] <miter> Warbo: i get those errors: could not initialize /dev/cdrom ... what a ***** nothing is working :-(
[10:30] <Warbo> How do I tell mkisofs to use the extensions that give more than crappy msdos 8.3 files?
[10:30] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: but a slightly disturbing number of packages rely on the firefox package
[10:30] <Mystery47> ok....ill try...i hope all goes nice and smooth...:)
[10:30] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, i dont have much installed as i did a server install to keep it fast
[10:30] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: ok, that would work better.
[10:31] <ayabara> bliss1: it seems like the solution, although I'm not looking forward to it...
[10:31] <Warbo> miter: Try a different program. I only use Grip because it was the standard program when I started using Linux a few years back (at RedHat 9)
[10:31] <aramil> hello
[10:31] <Jimmey__> aramil, hello
[10:31] <Bicster> any advice on doing an in-place upgrade from debian to ubuntu? <G>
[10:31] <aramil> dows anybody know about networking?
[10:31] <bolsh> aramil: Try Cisco
[10:31] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: i have a large quantity of stuff installed, because of the strange dependencies of certain packages
[10:31] <Jimmey__> aramil, I'd say quite a few, what's the question?
[10:32] <bolsh> (sorry, bad taste)
[10:32] <bliss1_> ompaul: time to go
[10:32] <bolsh> What's the question?
[10:32] <Warbo> How do I add rockridge/joliet type extensions to mksiofs isos?
[10:32] <heero> Anyone know how resolve a problem with the kbd? i has update xfree to xorg
[10:32] <heero> but i dont have AT key dont works :S
[10:32] <mjr> Bicster, yes; rather do a clean install, preserving only /home and perhaps something else you've done by hand
[10:32] <miter> Warbo: now it did initialze, tracks recognized BUT no sound (?) any way to actually configure the sound engine for grip? and grip has the best configuration to encode what i want so there's really NO alternative i've found so far... if only there was a EAC for linux...
[10:32] <aramil> i have a Win 98 PC and an Ubuntu 5.10.i would like to connect them both on the router and share my Internet connection
[10:33] <melon__>  hp omnibook xe4500 hibernation/suspend makes display black. is there any link how to fix this (I've googled around with no luck)
[10:33] <Bicster> mjr, no way to do it using apt?
[10:33] <scifi> Warbo: ok software mode now works in full-screen, but looks HORRIBLE lol
[10:33] <BockBilbo> anyone here using ifolder????
[10:33] <scifi> gonna try opengl again
[10:33] <bolsh> aramil: OK - what's the problem?
[10:33] <melon__> hello all
[10:33] <mjr> Bicster, there is. Not supported. You might have to do black apt magic.
[10:33] <aramil> how do i do it?
[10:33] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, can you do a quick "locate libmozjs.so" for me and tell me the results please
[10:33] <Bicster> mjr, I made a backup so I will try that first ;)
[10:33] <Warbo> miter: Grip uses the CD's internal player. Make sure you have the little sound cable going from your CDROM to your soundcard, or plug some speakers into your CDROm
[10:34] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: wait a sec
[10:34] <polpak> Warbo, -J I think allows for joliet
[10:34] <Jimmey__> aramil, give yourself a DHCP address, and make the default gateway your router's IP address. All this can be done in System >> Administration >> Networking
[10:34] <miter> Warbo: no way of it using another driver, for ex. alsa?
[10:34] <aramil> i m using DHCP
[10:34] <Warbo> polpak: Thanks (I posted here for speed, the man would have been quicker)
[10:35] <Warbo> miter: It uses OSS, which is emulated by ALSA.
[10:35] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: ok : /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/libmozjs.so
[10:35] <raptros-v76>     /usr/lib/libmozjs.so
[10:35] <miter> Warbo: so it should work like any other player, like beep media player or amaroK?
[10:35] <Warbo> miter: You don't have to hear it for it to rip OK.
[10:36] <bolsh> aramil: You need to make sure your router is correctly configured, and actually is a router (not just a modem)
[10:36] <aramil> it is a router....
[10:36] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: (actually, theres also one in /opt/firefox, but thats because i installed firefox 1.5 in there)
[10:36] <miter> Warbo: maybe i don't want every track, anyway it's not THAT important, thanks
[10:36] <ayabara> anyone here using truecrypt?
[10:36] <NiklasH_work> hi, anyone know how to change the character encoding via dpk-reconfigure locales nowadays? It won't let me do that all of a sudden
[10:36] <bolsh> aramil: And you may need a switch or hub to plug everything into
[10:36] <Warbo> miter: When you press play for the CD that is exactly what it does, plays the CD. To rip the CD it sends data down the IDE cable (using SCSI emulation) to your PC, so your songs WILL encode
[10:37] <aramil> my router can handle 4 PCs this is no problem
[10:37] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, would you be able to email me a copy of one of those to hjmills[at] gmail.com
[10:37] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, if you arent too busy of coursre
[10:37] <Spofer> Why should I be able to access the X11 dir on etc?
[10:37] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: k
[10:37] <Spofer> sry, shouldn't
[10:37] <bolsh> aramil: OK - then what you do is you plug your PCs and router into the switch, set the switch up as a DHCP server, and set both PCs to use DCHP (dynamically get IP address)
[10:37] <bolsh> And it'll Just Work
[10:37] <scifi> Warbo: ok need a break from this now, i think maybe after another wine/steam restart opengl might be smoother and possibly with dapper/new nvidia drivers even smoother still
[10:38] <DrBanzai> Okay, here's one for you.  I have Linux version 2.6.10-6-k7 according to cat/proc/version...but when I do uname -m, I get i686??
[10:38] <aramil> u mean i have to set the router to give automatically IP to the PCs?
[10:38] <miter> Warbo: well just tested it and it finished the ripping, however it did NOT create any sound file !? Can I use EAC with wine, is this possible?
[10:38] <NiklasH_work> isn't k7 a 686 processor?
[10:39] <bolsh> aramil: You don't have to
[10:39] <NiklasH_work> i think -m gives the architecture, not the processor model
[10:39] <DrBanzai> NiklasH_work, Oh...okay, thanks
[10:39] <NiklasH_work> check uname -r
[10:39] <NiklasH_work> np :)
[10:39] <bolsh> aramil: Routers have a WAN socket, which is where the IP address you get from your ISP is at, and a LAN address, usually 192.168.1.1 or something like that
[10:39] <scifi> im i right in saying dapper will include newer nvidia drivers (newer nvidia-glx etc) ?
[10:40] <aramil> y i know
[10:40] <polpak> scifi, most likely yes
[10:40] <bolsh> aramil: You can set your IP address for each of your PCs statically to be in the same subnet, say 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.3, with a netmask of 255.255.255.0
[10:40] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: ok, its sent
[10:40] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, thanks a bunch
[10:40] <bolsh> aramil: That way, communication between your local computers is private, and doesn't go outside the router
[10:40] <scifi> polpak: kewl, good chance opengl will run smoother then
[10:40] <HumanPrototype> raptros-v76, i owe ya one
[10:41] <Warbo> miter: I have never heard of EAC, and I doubt it would work (as windoze calls drives the same thing as their filesystems, like D:)
[10:41] <Warbo> scifi: Yes it does
[10:41] <raptros-v76> HumanPrototype: well, good luck
[10:41] <polpak> scifi, probably, the biggest problem w/ HL2 is that it isn't using openGL
[10:41] <bolsh> And you set your default gateway to 192.168.1.1 for both, so that traffic to IP addresses outside 192.168.1.* goes through the router
[10:41] <bolsh> Which then routes the packets, like a good little router
[10:41] <polpak> scifi, if it did, it'd run as well as Warcraft3 and other openGL games w/ wine
[10:41] <scifi> polpak: not running HL2, just cs 1.6
[10:42] <bolsh> aramil: Here, I have a router/modem
[10:42] <polpak> scifi, either way. I'm pretty sure they both use DirectX
[10:42] <aramil> right now the router has assigned 192.168.0.3 for the Windows PC and 192.168.0.4 for mine
[10:42] <bolsh> It has 2 modes when I connect to it, bridge or router
[10:42] <Warbo> OK, I have tried -j (too ambigous) and -R (didn't help) options with mkisofs, but I still can't get long filenames
[10:42] <aramil> the netmask is set to 255.255.255.0
[10:42] <polpak> scifi, which is just mapped to openGL calls by wine. But the wine support for direct X isn't quite up to snuff yet
[10:42] <awb4422> ayabara: i saw something in the forums the other day about truecrypt
[10:43] <polpak> Warbo, it's -J not -j IIRC
[10:43] <scifi> polpak: CS 1.6 allows u to switch to opengl in video options, and it ran in that, but extremely slowly
[10:43] <bolsh> In bridge mode, it only establishes the ADSL layer, and lets my computer negociate PPPOE which gives my computer its IP address and I'm straight onto the internet
[10:43] <awb4422> ayabara: a howto guide.. here is the url: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149561
[10:43] <ayabara> awb4422: thx, I'll check it out
[10:43] <scifi> polpak: yes direct x wudnt work at all
[10:43] <aramil> the problem is although the Win PC is recognized by the router when i type the router's adress on IE it crashes....:D
[10:43] <Warbo> polpak: Will that give me a nice, standard filesystem (it is an Ubuntu Livecd, so it needs to boot) the manual said about Joliet being mainly for m$ systems
[10:44] <bolsh> In router mode, the modem itself does the PPOE negociation, and I use a fixed IP on my LAN, with the router as gateway, and my ISP's nameservers for DNS
[10:44] <bolsh> aramil: OK - sorry, reading the backlog
[10:44] <bolsh> IE crashes?
[10:45] <joevandyk> Are the ubuntu repositories acting up?
[10:45] <aramil> yes
[10:45] <aramil> so something is going wrong (except from Win 98...lol)
[10:45] <scifi> anyway, laters guys, warbo/polpak thx for the help again.
[10:45] <bolsh> So what's the router's IP address?
[10:46] <bolsh> And does FF under Ubuntu crash?
[10:46] <Warbo> AAAGG! -J and -R both keep truncating the filenames!
[10:46] <scifi> bolsh, im running FF, never crashed on me
[10:46] <polpak> Warbo, it should work fine. I've had more trouble with RR than I've had w/ Joliet
[10:47] <mjr> Warbo, are you perchance confused by the fact that it generates _also_ the truncated versions?
[10:47] <mjr> so that the disc will work on systems that don't support rockridge/joliet
[10:47] <Warbo> polpak: It just says, for example "Using FILES000.MAN;1 for  MyDapper/casper/filesystem.manifest-desktop (filesystem.manifest)"
[10:48] <mjr> Warbo, yes, and that's fine
[10:48] <Warbo> mjr: Oh. (I'm a dumbass)
[10:49] <Warbo> Damn forced msdos compatibility
[10:49] <polpak> Warbo, =)
[10:49] <Cathou> hi, is this chan ok for getting advice on Breezy ?
[10:49] <sikor_sxe> my ubuntu breezy install is missing the commandline tool "lex", any idea in which package this could be?
[10:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Cathou: yes
[10:49] <Warbo> Cathou: That's what it's for :)
[10:50] <Cathou> ok :)
[10:50] <bolsh> aramil: I have to go I'm afraid
[10:50] <aramil> ok
[10:50] <bolsh> Sounds like it's something you'll need to look up in your router's docs
[10:50] <iceyes> is there any better program/drivers for the mouse with more settings and stuff i want to get rid of accleration and such
[10:50] <intelikey> well i welded my chair back togather, now i feel better.
[10:51] <Cathou> I'd like to activate the num keypad on session start - is this possible ?
[10:51] <intelikey> Cathou numlock
[10:51] <skpl> can someone help me with this? i am trying to install vmware: http://pastebin.com/685694
[10:51] <Warbo> Cathou: Yes, there is a package to do it
[10:51] <Cathou> I mean : automatically
[10:51] <intelikey> Cathou numlock
[10:52] <Warbo> numlockx?
[10:52] <Cathou> intelikey : you mean numlock is the name of the package ?
[10:52] <polpak> sikor_sxe, flex is the package you want
[10:52] <intelikey> Cathou yes numlock
[10:52] <Warbo> Cathou: There is a package numlockx. Maybe install it and add it to your session preferences
[10:53] <sikor_sxe> polpak, thanks
[10:53] <Cathou> ok I'll try to look for both
[10:53] <fsmw> hi all!
[10:53] <Cathou> thanx a lot - bye
[10:54] <skpl> can someone help me with this? i am trying to install vmware: http://pastebin.com/685694
[10:54] <Warbo> Qemu still can't boot my iso
[10:54] <polpak> skpl, you need to install the kernel headers for your kernel
[10:54] <DBO> Warbo, what did you make an iso of?
[10:54] <MisterN> n8
[10:54] <intelikey> skpl install kernel-headers-<your version>
[10:55] <Warbo> DBO: I mounted dapper live, copied the contents to a directory, mounted the squashfs image, copied it's contents, chrooted into it, modified it, squashed it, moved it back, mkisofsed it now it won't boot
[10:56] <DBO> Warbo, ah, yeah, I cant imagine why...
[10:56] <DBO> actually you lost me when I realized this was going to take thinking
[10:57] <Warbo> DBO: It works fine with KNOPPIX (and derivitives) based remasters
[10:57] <zith> how do i output a file to the terminal?
[10:57] <raptros-v76> skpl: werent you here earlier for the same thing?
[10:57] <Warbo> zith: cat file
[10:57] <polpak> zido, less /path/to/file
[10:57] <zith> Warbo, polpak: thanks
[10:58] <intelikey> Warbo Warbo you did use the -b option in mkisofs  ?
[10:58] <flash243> Hey, I am having a little problem with wvdial... That is, as soon as I am connected to the internet, my gateway is not setup correctly.
[10:58] <Warbo> polpak: You know I only recently realised you could do "less /path/to/file"? I always did "cat /path/to/file | less"
[10:58] <thecrazymonk> does anyone know if xgl will make the cut for drapper?
[10:58] <chunkahoy> i have a very stupid newbie question,  am i at the right place ?
[10:58] <skpl> raptros-v76: well i've made some progress now actually, im getting a different error, about a file called version.h
[10:59] <Warbo> intelikey: Errr. No. OK, remaking it now
[10:59] <skpl> raptros-v76: any ideas?
[10:59] <raptros-v76> skpl: hmm. just wait.
[10:59] <intelikey> Warbo before yo remake it.  man mkisofs
[10:59] <skyweb> thecrazymonk: i'm using dapper and i don't see xgl :)
[10:59] <Warbo> intelikey: I did, but it's really confusing
[11:00] <intelikey> ok man mkisofs  then use  /-b
[11:00] <polpak> skyweb, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351   But you should really address dapper questions to #ubuntu+1
[11:00] <thecrazymonk> skyweb: darn, i was hoping it would be stable enough for the release of drapper in june, but you can still get it right
[11:00] <intelikey> Warbo you do know that  /   and  ?   are search keys in less don't you?
[11:00] <skpl> intelikey: E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.15-20-386
[11:00] <raptros-v76> skpl: i did a locate, and im going to put it on the pasteboard
[11:01] <Warbo> thecrazymonk: I would HATE it if xgl was used by default in Dapper. I might even switch distro. Compiz is useless as a window manager at the moment (Wow, it's 3D! But where are the themes? The OnTop? The Sticky?)
[11:01] <skpl> raptros-v76: alright, you mean a locate of version.h?
[11:01] <raptros-v76> yeah. just wait
[11:01] <pablo_> hi! i need help whit a dhcp.conf file anyone can help?
[11:02] <polpak> !anyone
[11:02] <mel19> I need help installing ubuntu on my new dell laptop, I completed the installation but I have a problem with the gui
[11:02] <ubotu> anyone is, like, a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[11:02] <intelikey> skpl  ok try   linux-headers-2.6.15-20-386linux-headers-2.6.15-20-386
[11:02] <skpl> hm?
[11:02] <omeg> Hi all. I'm interested in making an aesthetics proposition for usplash (the startup and shutdown graphical environment). Where would I need to go to make such a suggestion?
[11:02] <intelikey> hehhe one time not twice  linux-headers-2.6.15-20-386
[11:02] <HymnToLife> this is bad
[11:02] <omeg> I prefer an off-IRC location.
[11:02] <skpl> intelikey: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.15-20-386
[11:02] <HymnToLife> !no anyone is <reply> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[11:02] <ubotu> okay, HymnToLife
[11:02] <polpak> omeg, the ubuntu forums?
[11:03] <xtreon> when im using ktorrent i get Port 6881 is not open? can i open it whit out security risk? how do i open it?
[11:03] <omeg> Is there a forum for making visual propositions?
[11:03] <intelikey> skpl then it's a sources.list
[11:03] <intelikey> The following extra packages will be installed:
[11:03] <intelikey>   linux-headers-2.6.15-20
[11:03] <eg3> hi, there is an failure in dapper with the orinoco silver card
[11:04] <eg3> it tries to load the wrong module
[11:04] <pablo_> Does anyone/anybody give help whit dhcp.conf?
[11:04] <dxdemetriou> hi
[11:04] <xtreon> or can i change port to something better? anyone?
[11:04] <polpak> !tell pablo_ about anyone
[11:04] <dxdemetriou> can I disable the autorun for dvds from totem?
[11:04] <omeg> I think that the usplash pixel font is pretty awful, so I might as well make a proposal for a changed version.
[11:04] <Warbo> dxdemetriou: It's in the Preferences of GNOME I think (media)
[11:05] <intelikey> skpl  your sources set to dapper ?
[11:05] <senjin> i got a small problem with instaling drivers for my graphicscard it says that i shall close alla x servers and opgl progs but how do i do that?
[11:05] <intelikey> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse   <--- like that maybe ?
[11:05] <polpak> senjin, ctrl-alt-backspace works generally
[11:05] <pablo_> i need help with dhcp.conf file
[11:05] <Neurosis> sockread EAGAIN: 7 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) <--- can anyone tell me what would cause this error?
[11:05] <polpak> pablo_, just say what you need help with.. dhcp.conf is not specific
[11:05] <skpl> intelikey: everything is set to dapper in my sources.list
[11:06] <bimberi> omeg: the ubuntu-devel mailing list is the place
[11:06] <mel19> Uduntu don't start due to x windows I need help
[11:06] <omeg> How do mailing lists work? Do I send an e-mail to it and then it shows up in the next update?
[11:06] <dxdemetriou> Warbo: I didn't find it.
[11:06] <intelikey> skpl i can install   linux-headers-2.6.15-20    don't know why you wouldn't be able too...
[11:06] <polpak> mel19, what's the error?
[11:06] <xtreon> plz i really need help. Ktorrent says that i dont have port 6881 open? can I open it?
[11:06] <XiXaQ> is it possible to connect to Ubuntu via Remote Desktop Connection on Windows?
[11:07] <skpl> intelikey: i might have missed something in my source.list, let me try again
[11:07] <erUSUL> omeg: normally you must subscribe to it first
[11:07] <pablo_> polpak: my system has tow nics, one is used to connect to the internet, the other is used for clients coneccting to ltsp (im using latest version of ltspadmin)
[11:07] <intelikey> -x86   that as needed.
[11:07] <mel19> polpak ubuntu says the resolution is not available!
[11:07] <polpak> XiXaQ, yes
[11:07] <bimberi> omeg: join the list via https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel and then send an email to the list address
[11:07] <omeg> Where can I find the devel mailing list?
[11:07] <omeg> Thanks
[11:07] <mel19> Maybe it's because I got a wide screen?
[11:07] <XiXaQ> polpak, out of the box, or do I have to configure it?
[11:07] <raptros-v76>  skpl : had any luck?
[11:07] <bimberi> omeg: np :)
[11:07] <erUSUL> XiXaQ: i do not think so you can use VNC afaik
[11:07] <pablo_> the sample file generetaed by ltspadmin seems ok but dhcp complains about it
[11:08] <polpak> !tell mel19 about resolution
[11:08] <pablo_> the error reported by the start up is
[11:08] <xtreon> am I the only one downloading torrents under ubuntu=
[11:08] <Warbo> dx: System>Preferences>Removable Drives And Media (in Dapper anyway)
[11:08] <mel19> 1280*720
[11:08] <polpak> xtreon, do you have the firewall turned on?
[11:08] <iceman> AWSOME ... actualy have Nextstep installing on a PC ....
[11:09] <f00li5h> cycle
[11:09] <Warbo> dxdemetriou: See my above message for "dx:" (Doh!)
[11:09] <polpak> mel19, read the wiki ubotu sent you
[11:09] <xtreon> polpak: don't think so?
[11:09] <polpak> xtreon, are you using a dsl/cable router?
[11:10] <skpl> intelikey: can you paste your sources.list and i will try again with yours?
[11:10] <xtreon> no I get the message from Ktorrent. Can't download port 6881 closed
[11:10] <loco_gr> I have the webcam Creative PD1001 and I cannot make it work. Any help?
[11:10] <pablo_>  tail -f /var/log/daemon.log
[11:10] <intelikey> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse   <--- like that skpl ?
[11:10] <pablo_> says
[11:10] <pablo_> No subnet declaration for eth2 (192.168.3.2).
[11:10] <polpak> xtreon, oh, that's a different issue. It sounds like the tracker you're trying to connect to is down
[11:10] <pablo_> * Ignoring requests on eth2.  If this is not what
[11:11] <pablo_> you want, please write a subnet declaration
[11:11] <xtreon> polpak: its not down.. maby the client is banned?
[11:11] <antivert> hello, good ubuntu people
[11:11] <polpak> xtreon, possibly
[11:11] <skpl> intelikey: should i add that to my sources.list?
[11:11] <xtreon> isnt there any good torrent tracker for ubuntu???
[11:11] <dxdemetriou> Warbo: thanks. I was stupid to ask that :)
[11:12] <intelikey> skpl actually i have three lines .  that one and one with dapper-security  and one with dapper-updates     all other parts are the same.
[11:13] <intelikey> if you made three copies of that first line then added  -security  to the word dapper  and  -updates  to the next dapper    you'd have it.
[11:13] <skpl> intelikey: this is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12996
[11:13] <skpl> intelikey: you tell me if it is right
[11:14] <pablo_> here is my dhcp.conf file http://pastebin.com/685743
[11:14] <pablo_> can anybody tellme whats worng wiht it?
[11:14] <engla> hello. Does anyone know of tablet/convertible laptops that work very well with ubuntu. Is there software for tablet notes and hand recognition for linux and Gnome?
[11:14] <pablo_> mys system has 2 nics and want to use it for ltsp
[11:15] <BockBilbo> hello.. i get this mono error when compiling ifolder enterprise server on dapper: Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries used by your application. ... i have never used mono before... anyone can help me about it?
[11:15] <intelikey> skpl there is some redundancy in it but it looks like it should work.
[11:15] <xtreon> is it to simple? i want to use my ubuntu server to download torrents? anyone done this? =S
[11:15] <MystaMax> bockbilbo: i think dapper questions should be asked in #ubuntu+1
[11:15] <BockBilbo> xtreon, use mldonkey
[11:15] <BockBilbo> o sorry MystaMax
[11:16] <polpak> xtreon, try a different client mebe? I have had no trouble w/ bittorent and ubuntu.. it works out of the box
[11:16] <MystaMax> just wanted to point you in the right direction
[11:16] <BockBilbo> :)
[11:16] <skpl> intelikey: yeah i fixed the redundancy, however i still cannot download the linux headers
[11:16] <raptros-v76> do they exist
[11:16] <raptros-v76> ?
[11:16] <polpak> skpl, you have to apt-get update after you change your sources.list
[11:16] <trappist> is us.archive.ubuntu.com getting slammered?
[11:16] <xtreon> noting whit torrent seams to work.. must have something to do whit the closed port? that they complain about? antone?
[11:17] <intelikey> "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse"   is equal to "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main"  +  "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper restricted"  +  "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"  +  "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse"    incase anyone didn't know.
[11:17] <intelikey> skpl after any change to sources.list  you have to update
[11:17] <skpl> yes
[11:17] <skpl> i have
[11:18] <polpak> !info linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686
[11:18] <ubotu> linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686: (Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-10.30 (breezy), Packaged size: 780 kB, Installed size: 21032 kB
[11:18] <polpak> it's not even in universe... I think you're typing something wrong
[11:18] <intelikey> hmmmm i don't know what to tell you.   the package is there.
[11:19] <skpl> intelikey: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.15-20-386
[11:20] <skpl> i could not find it on ethe web either :)
[11:20] <trappist> should be 2.6.15-21 now
[11:20] <nido> 'lo
[11:20] <iceyes> what can i do to install this program i get this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12997
[11:20] <miguelsr> some one know how to instal limewire by the terminal?
[11:21] <polpak> !limewire
[11:21] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[11:21] <zith> how do you start a process that won't end upon teminal exit?
[11:21] <miguelsr> i got java
[11:21] <trappist> iceyes: you might get a better response if you give a brief description of your problem.  some people aren't going to fire up their browsers to look at your paste if they have no idea what it's about.
[11:21] <skeff> how do I run through my system searching for packages that depend on 'gstreamer0.8*' ?
[11:21] <polpak> zith, nohup command &
[11:21] <trappist> zith: nohup appname &
[11:21] <trappist> or run it in a screen
[11:22] <iceyes> trappist ok, sure
[11:22] <trappist> <3 screen
[11:22] <nido> say; is it possible to view the packages provided in ubuntu without installing ubuntu? i'm considering ubuntu; but i want to make sure some packages (and versions) can be installed easily
[11:22] <trappist> skeff: apt-cache rdepends gstreamer0.8
[11:23] <miguelsr> hey what torrents programas do u recomend me for ubuntu 5.10?
[11:23] <Seantater> nido: go to http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:23] <nido> thanks
[11:23] <skeff> trappist, thanks a million :)
[11:23] <polpak> !tell iceyes about opera
[11:23] <iceyes> I tried to install the webbrowser opera, seems like parts of it is installed but this error occured http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12997 what to do?
[11:23] <Seantater> miguelsr: ktorrent! But, than again, I'm a KDE fan
[11:24] <miguelsr> some one that looks like bitcomet?
[11:24] <intelikey> skpl you are saying that a maintainer must have pushed it off the server for some reason....  yes i have checked and am still checking... i'll get back to you on that.
[11:24] <MystaMax> hello, im using proftpd as my server and gproftpd to manage the server. I'ved used the import command in gproftpd to import a system user, but it adds the users as Anonymous, Is this ok?
[11:24] <trappist> iceyes: you could try to install libqt3-mt, or you could grab an opera package that doesn't depend on it - I think they provide statically compiled packages with no dependencies
[11:24] <polpak> skpl, what is the output of uname -r ?
[11:25] <skpl> intelikey: well how about this. i CAN find the headers for 2.6.15-21, which is a newer version than my kernel. so how do i update my kernel to this version so i can use those header files with vmware?
[11:25] <trappist> MystaMax: it's ok if you're running an anonymous ftp site - but it sounds like it's screwing up
[11:25] <HymnToLife> iceyes> you're missing some repos obviously
[11:25] <zith> polpak, trappist: thanks
[11:25] <intelikey> skpl you install the new version
[11:25] <trappist> skeff: apt-get install linux-image
[11:25] <skpl> intelikey: would'nt sudo apt-get update take care of that?
[11:26] <Seantater> maguelsr: never tried botcomet, how about bittornado
[11:26] <polpak> skpl, you are in breezy?
[11:26] <skpl> polpak: dapper
[11:26] <polpak> skpl, what is uname -r ?
[11:26] <skeff> trappist, quo?
[11:26] <MystaMax> trappist: i'm not running anonymous site, its behind a company firewall, but having it add a system account as an Anonymous user doesnt seem right
[11:26] <Daskies> is there a way to kill a process by name
[11:26] <raptros-v76> pkill
[11:26] <Neurosis> sockread EAGAIN: 7 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) <--- can anyone tell me what would cause this error?
[11:26] <skpl> polpak: 2.6.15-20-386
[11:26] <HymnToLife> iceyes> tru sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt and then installing your opera again
[11:26] <intelikey> then if you wish, AFTER testing,  you can remove the older version.       skpl mmm no.  kernel updates don't change the version afik
[11:26] <Daskies> Firefox says it is still open, yet I don't have a visable window
[11:26] <mwe> Daskies: or killall
[11:26] <nido> is it possible to install xorg-x11 7? browsing the breezy packages told me xorg 6.8 came with ti
[11:26] <trappist> MystaMax: nope it doesn't seem right - when I ran proftpd, back in the day, I just *used* system users, rather than importing
[11:26] <polpak> skpl, use #ubuntu+1 pls
[11:26] <skpl> ah, ok
[11:26] <fredwork> I am having some issues with Bind on Breezy Badger.  I followed the How-To on HowtoForge for a CHROOT jail and keep get errors everytime I try and start or stop or restart the bind service: rndc: Connect Failed: Connection Refused
[11:26] <iceyes> HymnToLife ill try, just a min
[11:27] <polpak> nido, 7 will be in dapper, due June 1st
[11:27] <MystaMax> trappist: so you didn't define any users in the proftpd.conf file?
[11:27] <trappist> MystaMax: no
[11:27] <fredwork> I could at one point resolve external domain names but now I cannot.  I have never been able to resolve internal domain names.
[11:28] <iceyes> HymnToLife seems like:  sudo apt-get -f install worked
[11:28] <MystaMax> trappist: well the problem i was having is that my system user could not write to its default directory...
[11:28] <zith> is there a way to have a 'working directory' type of thing in linux?  i.e. specify the root directory of an app you call
[11:28] <HymnToLife> iceyes> is your opera woking ?
[11:29] <trappist> MystaMax: a user's default directory should be in his home dir - or somewhere else, but if it's somewhere else, just make the user own it
[11:29] <zith> messing with PATH is one option I guess
[11:29] <polpak> zith, yes, you just cd to the directory before you run the app
[11:29] <mwe> zith: at least kde lets you specify that in the shorcut I guess gnome can do the same
[11:29] <polpak> zith, path isn't used for that
[11:29] <nido> great; i'll download the beta
[11:30] <polpak> nido, =)
[11:30] <zith> polpak: i have an init.d script that I need to run from a certain directory
[11:30] <nido> if xmms2 is included i'll be mega happy
[11:30] <timmy_> Hi all
[11:30] <miguelsr> seantater: how do i install bittornado by terminal?
[11:30] <mwe> zith: make a line cd /path/name at the beginning
[11:30] <polpak> zido, in the script, just cd to the appropriate directory
[11:30] <polpak> zith, ^^
[11:30] <zith> aha awesome
[11:30] <timmy_> can I ask a question about installing kde on a gnome system/
[11:30] <Seantater> miguelsr: why terminal, you can use a GUI..
[11:30] <nido> it isn't in the list. is it still (easily) installable though?
[11:30] <DBO> timmy_, ask away
[11:31] <timmy_> I would like to try it out, is there a simple way to do that from the terminal?
[11:31] <miguelsr> seantater:  gui?
[11:31] <polpak> nido, you can compile from source if you like
[11:31] <DBO> timmy_, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[11:31] <polpak> nido, there are lots of things in universe
[11:31] <mwe> timmy_: that will get a load of krap though
[11:31] <polpak> !info xmms dapper
[11:31] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu4 (dapper), Packaged size: 1029 kB, Installed size: 7256 kB
[11:31] <mwe> timmy_: you could also just get kdebase
[11:31] <NickGarvey> :)
[11:31] <polpak> !info xmms2 dapper
[11:31] <timmy_> and that will install kde and all the programs native to that desktop (browser, etc.)?
[11:31] <Seantater> miguelsr: Graphical User Interface; aka, a program with buttons and clicky things..
[11:32] <miguelsr> ah ok
[11:32] <DBO> timmy_, sure will, if you are pressed for hard drive space you can do what mwe suggested
[11:32] <kung> gn8
[11:32] <Seantater> miguelsr: want me to tell ubotu to give you some faq on that?
[11:32] <timmy_> I am not pressed, I wanted to play around with all the different programs and stuff
[11:32] <phace> !w32codecs
[11:32] <mwe> timmy_: kdebase will get the browser etc. then get anything else you need in synaptic/adept
[11:32] <timmy_> figure out which one I prefer
[11:32] <DBO> timmy_, then you want to do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[11:32] <polpak> timmy_, then get kubuntu-desktop
[11:33] <Seantater> miguelsr: here ya go
[11:33] <timmy_> thanks everyone!
[11:33] <miguelsr> seantater: yes please my english is not too god
[11:33] <mwe> kubuntu desktop installed a huge amount of krap I later removed
[11:33] <HumanPrototype> what lighweight editor would you recommend? Kind of like nano but with a gui
[11:33] <Seantater> !tell miguelsr about synaptic
[11:33] <timmy_> I think I may try the base to start off
[11:33] <polpak> HumanPrototype, gedit ?
[11:33] <timmy_> thanks for all the suggestions
[11:33] <HumanPrototype> polpak, anything lighter?
[11:33] <mwe> HumanPrototype: gvim
[11:33] <polpak> HumanPrototype, gvim?
[11:33] <polpak> HumanPrototype, or gemacs
[11:34] <Seantater> miguelsr:  You are much less "broken up" than many people I've spoken to..
[11:34] <HumanPrototype> mwe, i guess that will force me to learn vim....
[11:34] <HymnToLife> remember to upgrade your KDE to the last version then http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[11:34] <nido> thanks for the help  polpak; i'll see what i can do with it
[11:34] <miguelsr> !tell miguelsr about gui
[11:34] <HumanPrototype> polpak, which is easier to learn, which is lighter and which is more powerful?
[11:34] <mwe> HumanPrototype: more or less. if you just want an editor maybe gedit or sth
[11:34] <polpak> HumanPrototype, they're both cryptic
[11:34] <polpak> HumanPrototype, emacs has more features/modules
[11:35] <polpak> HumanPrototype, vim has a smaller footprint
[11:35] <polpak> HumanPrototype, they're both very fast
[11:35] <Seantater> miguelsr:  When ubotu gives you a fact, you can just type in the name of another one you'd like to know, and "he " will tell you
[11:35] <mwe> you can even play chess in emacs :|
[11:35] <timmy_> I am off to restart and try KDE, thanks again guys!
[11:35] <polpak> mwe, indeed. emacs is like it's own little os
[11:36] <HumanPrototype> polpak, ok then, i will try gvim and move to gemacs if i cant get on with gvim
[11:36] <HymnToLife> and sice you asked for an editor, you shoul go with vim :p
[11:36] <polpak> HymnToLife, vim is also more commonly found on other *nix systems than emacs is
[11:36] <polpak> HumanPrototype,  ^^
[11:37] <Chousuke> It's good to know the basics of vim.
[11:37] <mwe> :q! is a good start :)
[11:37] <Chousuke> namely, :wq, i and that's it.
[11:37] <Chousuke> :q too, but it's included in :wq
[11:37] <mwe> I remember the first time I ran vi I couldn't figure out how to close it
[11:37] <cowboyway> what about wq!     :-)
[11:38] <polpak> mwe, indeed. I had the same problem w/ emacs
[11:38] <sethk> in vi, x is the same as wq
[11:38] <sethk> and is (obviously) less typing
[11:39] <Alex> sethk: But is it less energy wasted? As you, depending upon your typing style, may have you move your hand further. :P
[11:39] <sethk> Alex, ah, but w and q are up, while x is down, so if your keyboard is slanted, you have less gravity at the x than at w and q  :)
[11:40] <Alex> sethk: less gravity? You're worse than me :P
[11:40] <sethk> Alex, worse?  just as bad, I might accept ...
[11:40] <xtreon> i just downloaded rufus torrent client, I have unpacked the sorcecode. How do i install it ? =S
[11:40] <Alex> Fine :P
[11:40] <sethk> :)
[11:40] <mwe> yeah. the higher up an object is the heavier it is, right? :)
[11:41] <xtreon> can anyone help me plz?
[11:41] <sethk> mwe, absolutely
[11:41] <sethk> mwe, and if you have the ability to measure the effort to about a thousand decimal points, you could measure the difference. :)
[11:41] <sethk> thousand digits, not decimal points, sorry
[11:42] <polpak> !tell xtreon about patience
[11:42] <mwe> sethk: so the heavier it is the harder it is to press it down ? :)
[11:42] <intelikey> .............................................x 1k  hehhe
[11:42] <Apach> uh
[11:42] <polpak> !tell xtreon about compile
[11:42] <sethk> mwe, let's see, that's backwards, isn't it?
[11:42] <usr13> (Trying to help a friend with a new Ubuntu install via email. And I am the wrong person for this because I've yet to install Ubunto on one of my computers... [but I plan to real soon] )
[11:42] <sethk> mwe, maybe my argument was pointing in the opposite direction
[11:42] <Apach> xtreon, try ./configure && make && make install
[11:42] <mwe> heh
[11:42] <sethk> mwe, astronauts don't get heavier, they get lighter
[11:42] <polpak> !botsnack
[11:42] <ubotu> thanks polpak :)
[11:43] <HymnToLife> just ask SABDFAL /p
[11:43] <McScruff> usr13, make him get the latest livecd and follow the very east to use gui install
[11:43] <mwe> sethk: right. that was my though as well :)
[11:44] <HymnToLife> GUI install ?
[11:44] <polpak> HymnToLife, it's in dapper
[11:44] <mwe> thought*
[11:44] <intelikey> east one at that
[11:44] <HymnToLife> Oh my GOD, Ubuntu has turned Mandrake-like
[11:44] <polpak> HymnToLife, nah
[11:44] <polpak> HymnToLife, it's just for the live cd
[11:44] <Apach> haha, not even close
[11:44] <Apach> what happened to mandrake anyways
[11:44] <Apach> brb 2 secs
[11:45] <HymnToLife> that it sucks
[11:45] <intelikey> HymnToLife b'sides mdk has an option to textmode
[11:45] <HymnToLife> really ?
[11:45] <crimsun> HymnToLife: huh?
[11:45] <HymnToLife> It's been years since I've not used
[11:45] <intelikey> Apach the name changed to mandriva  and killed the distro...
[11:45] <HymnToLife> but I got very bad impression on it
[11:46] <israel> instruction Google Adsense--> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Google.htm                 Download Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/FireFox7.htm
[11:46] <polpak> !ops
[11:46] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[11:47] <polpak> oh
[11:47] <polpak> well still
[11:47] <Amaranth> polpak: ?
[11:47] <Seveas> polpak, ?
[11:47] <polpak> israel
[11:47] <polpak> ^^
[11:47] <HymnToLife> it's bad to play with !ops
[11:47] <HedgeMage> s/da/the
[11:47] <Seveas> HymnToLife, he didn't play 
[11:47] <HymnToLife> you'll go to Redmond for that :D
[11:48] <HymnToLife> hm ? I didn't see any reason for it
[11:48] <intelikey> that'what i was wondering
[11:48] <polpak> HymnToLife, israel spamming
[11:48] <polpak> HymnToLife, he left right afterwards though
[11:48] <HymnToLife> oh yeah
[11:48] <HymnToLife> didn't even notie it
[11:48] <Graeme> Hmm, I don't suppose someone here could help me with installing ubuntu?  I seem to have a graphical glitch with the installer . . .
[11:49] <HymnToLife> Graeme> ie ?
[11:49] <Graeme> The installer menus and screens scroll rapidly along the screen such that they're impossible to read
[11:49] <Amaranth> it's isrealgish sites on getting firefox and setting up adsense, from what i can see
[11:49] <Apach> back
[11:50] <Apach> mandrake was oldschool
[11:50] <polpak> Graeme, what kind of display do you have?
[11:50] <polpak> Amaranth, indeed. Not sure why it'd be appropriate to spam the urls here though
[11:50] <Graeme> Not sure what you mean by display?  It's a Dell laptop, ATI X300 video card
[11:50] <mwe> how about trying to tell him not to spam before calling the ops?
[11:50] <Amaranth> it's not hebrew, maybe persian
[11:50] <polpak> mwe, cause he left before I could ?
[11:51] <polpak> Graeme, you need to pass a vga= mode to the installer probably
[11:51] <Amaranth> polpak: from the look of it you called then realized he had left :P
[11:51] <mwe> waht can the ops do then?
[11:51] <Amaranth> oh well, if he comes back say something
[11:51] <intelikey> oh and hmmm well.   never mind then.
[11:51] <Amaranth> for now he is gone, no need for further action
[11:51] <Hexidigital> ....
[11:52] <holycow> *hmmm*
[11:52] <Hexidigital> Finally
[11:52] <Apach> who spammed what?
[11:52] <holycow> gdebi is neato
[11:52] <Graeme> Ah, my friend just suggested the same thing so this may be it :P.  Thanks polpak ^_^
[11:52] <Hexidigital> Jowi, you still here?
[11:52] <polpak> Graeme, laptop display's can be finicky with the framebuffer
[11:52] <intelikey> some body ban me, before i spam something.
[11:53] <polpak> too late
[11:53] <Graeme> Aye, I gathered as much.  Going to have a go at it :), thanks again
[11:53] <Hexidigital> intellikey, i tried
[11:53] <Hexidigital> :-P
[11:53] <intelikey> :)
[11:53] <intelikey> there's still time.... hurry
[11:54] <polpak> intelikey, no, it's far too late for that
[11:54] <polpak> intelikey, you've been spamming for a while now. =p
[11:55] <zith> is tehre a good channel to discuss programming languages?  not specific ones
[11:55] <zith> i don't want to get off topic here
[11:56] <Hexidigital> wish me luck guys... about to do a(nother) apt-get dist-update
[11:56] <gnomefreak> zith: #programming
[11:56] <intelikey> zith #ubuntu-offtopic  maybe
[11:56] <HymnToLife> zith> you can always go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:56] <intelikey> ##linux even
[11:56] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-offtopic also
[11:56] <nekostar> eh
[11:56] <nekostar> any clue why the repos are so slow?
[11:56] <nekostar> is there a ddos currently?
[11:57] <intelikey> idk  but they are really slugish,  i'm on dialup and i can tell it.
[11:57] <dxdemetriou> I have a problem to boot from sata disk with windows. My first disk is ide with Ubuntu, and the windows on the first sata. It worked ok, up to the time I added disk in hdb. Instead from sata disk it boot from hdb. What I can do? here is the link for my configuration.
[11:57] <crimsun> they're sluggish because beta2 images are being built and uploaded.
[11:58] <HumanPrototype> is it possible to get a panel like in fluxbox where I can just put launchers and which wont be overlapped by windows when they maximise?
[11:58] <dxdemetriou> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13000
[11:59] <Fah_> Heya, is there a gui scp client available in ubuntu?
[11:59] <nekostar> HumanPrototype, look at pypanel i htink it is
[11:59] <Allan> Where do I go for problems with the Ralink wireless driver on Breezy?
[11:59] <_jason> Fah_: nautilus is one
[11:59] <intelikey> HumanPrototype with fluxbox  or blackbox it is....
[11:59] <Fah_> Thanks
[11:59] <Fah_> Didn't know if nautilus handled it or not
[11:59] <polpak> !tell intelikey about spam
[11:59] <Fah_> I'll try it out
[11:59] <Fah_> Burning a live cd at the moment
[11:59] <Stormx2> How do I run a command recursively through a directory to every file?
[11:59] <nics_> nautilus handles it fine, use it all the time for scp
[11:59] <_jason> Stormx2: use find and xargs
[11:59] <intelikey> !botsnack
[11:59] <ubotu> :)
[12:00] <Stormx2> _jason: How?
[12:00] <biovore> Stormx2: what you tring to do?