=== Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === Lt_Uhura [i=rio@c-24-99-79-225.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@76.Red-83-58-172.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jerome@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.166.11] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@76.Red-83-58-172.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as LaserJock_away === LaserJock_away is now known as LaserJock === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.166.11] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.166.11] has joined #edubuntu === edrucated [n=chatzill@unaffiliated/edrucated] has joined #edubuntu [05:39] hey [05:40] hi edrucated [05:40] how are you === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu === edrucated [n=chatzill@unaffiliated/edrucated] has left #edubuntu [] === LaserJock is now known as LaserJock_away === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ is now known as bimberi === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === jane_ [n=JaneW@dsl-146-141-13.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_zZzZ === sm|away is now known as sankarshan === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [09:51] morning === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [10:15] mornin all [10:15] Bluekuja: ping [10:17] morning cbx33 [10:20] mornin juliux === cbx33 notices that at this stage in the mornin he's trying to use tab completion for the word "morning" [10:21] cbx33, i also try this things [10:21] heheh [10:21] it never works [10:21] funny that :p [10:22] i think we need a speech2irc device [10:22] yes === cbx33 is having a very bad day [10:24] good morning everybody [10:24] one of our guinea pigs is sick [10:24] :( [10:24] and my colleague is on holiday [10:24] hi lucasvo [10:24] which means i get lumbered with support :( [10:29] ahhh, bzr is damn slow [10:29] !seen ogra [10:29] ogra was last seen on IRC in channel #edubuntu, 17h 18m 48s ago, saying: 'hey jsgotangco '. [10:29] somebody know how ldm works? [10:30] a little [10:30] what ya need [10:30] how can I run it from an already running x-session? [10:30] hmmm [10:30] not sure i know that one [10:31] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/34118 [10:35] k [10:35] i see it [10:35] woudn't you have to use Xnest? [10:35] or something similar? [10:35] I'll try [10:35] I'm no expert but I think that's what they use to test gnome etc [10:35] please someone tell me if I'm wrong [10:36] i think xnest is good [10:36] or a server with a thinclient ,) [10:36] VM :p [10:36] that's what i use heheheh === lucasvo didn't set up his thin client network [10:37] oh? [10:37] I have this crappy network [10:38] whats up with it? [10:38] btw, anybody know if I can find out if my nics are autosensing? [10:38] cbx33: I don't know [10:38] you mean MDIX? [10:38] MDIX? [10:38] nevermind [10:38] autodetection for crossover [10:38] yeh MDIX [10:38] um [10:39] plug in a crossover and ping [10:39] :p [10:39] then use a non crossover [10:39] and do the same [10:39] that's the problem [10:39] I didn't even manage to ping [10:39] oh === lucasvo is not a network specialist [10:40] where are these drawings ogra made about the network? [10:40] hmmm [10:40] no the wiki somewhere [10:40] *on [10:41] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/edubuntu_talk.pdf [10:41] this one? [10:41] ETH0 -----> DHCP ----> INTERNET [10:41] PC [10:41] ETH1 -----> static ---> Switch ----> LTSP-Client [10:42] that's how my network looks like [10:42] cool [10:42] and where is the problem? [10:43] I can't ping from Eth1 to ltsp [10:43] what are the ip addresses from eth0 and eth1? [10:43] and what is the output from route -n [10:43] indeed good call juliux [10:43] 192.168.0.6 and 192.168.1.1 [10:44] what's the subnet [10:44] and routes please [10:44] Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface [10:44] 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 [10:44] 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 [10:44] 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 [10:44] that's y [10:44] juliux: they are on two diff subnets no? [10:44] yes [10:44] cbx33, yes [10:45] one is 192.168.0.0 the other is 192.168.1.0 [10:45] where is the route between the two [10:45] the ltspclients has which ipaddress? [10:45] I didn't get anything over dhcp but I could set it up with 192.168.1.2 [10:45] oh i see [10:46] sorry my brain isn't functioning at all well today [10:46] lucasvo: was dhcp running :p [10:46] yes [10:46] just checking === cbx33 has forgotten that on several occasions [10:46] lucasvo@supernova:~/bzr$ bzr branch http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ltsp/dapper/ ltsp [10:46] bzr: ERROR: An error has been detected in the repository http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ltsp/dapper/. [10:47] Please run bzr reconcile on this repository. [10:47] lucasvo: i kept getting that [10:47] lucasvo, /etc/default/dhcp3-server wirte into this file INTERFACES="eth1" [10:47] ogra told me to delete the entire folder [10:47] and try again [10:47] lucasvo, and restart the dhcp server and then try to get an ip from the client [10:47] and after a few tries it worked [10:48] cbx33: did you delete the directory it created? [10:51] juliux: I still don't get any IP [10:51] lucasvo, but you have an uplink? [10:52] where? [10:52] between eth1 and the thinclient? [10:52] when you set the machine up with 192.168.1.2 [10:52] could you ping the server? on eth1 [10:54] now it says network unreachable [10:54] ahh [10:54] how is the client setup [10:54] live cd? [10:54] livecd [10:54] ok [10:55] and you've given it a static ip === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [10:55] have you restarted the networking service? [10:55] yes [10:55] mornin Seveas [10:55] where? [10:55] \/etc/init.d/networking restart [10:56] mornin' [10:56] hi Seveas [10:56] cbx33: no [10:57] I just set up the NIC with ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.1.2 & route add default gw 192.168.1.1 [10:57] no what ? [10:58] try restarting that [10:58] how restart? [10:58] when I restart, it tries to assign an IP over dhcp [10:58] lucasvo, is there a link? are the leds from the nic green? [10:58] yes [10:59] the switch also dipslays a connection [10:59] hmmm [10:59] hm [11:00] tcpdump: listening on eth1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 256 bytes [11:00] 11:00:34.928861 arp who-has 192.168.1.2 tell 192.168.1.1 [11:01] but that is sometimes misleading [11:01] 11:00:46.565147 arp who-has 192.168.1.2 tell 192.168.1.1 [11:01] hmm [11:01] but It doesn't get through [11:01] tried that on the client? [11:01] From 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable [11:01] there it says: [11:01] ping 192.168.1.1 [11:01] what does ifconfig on the client show [11:02] connect: Network is unreachable [11:02] it says Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr:.... [11:02] lucasvo: join #flood [11:02] and paste the contents into there [11:02] oh wait [11:02] sorry [11:02] cbx33: I can't paste [11:02] oh ok [11:03] yeh of course plus I can;t get ito #flood cos I'm on cgiirc [11:03] what's the ip say [11:03] are there any figues for the RX [11:04] I get an arp-reply [11:04] but very late [11:05] and I can ping [11:05] but then it says network unreachable [11:05] dodgy network cable? [11:05] cbx33: it says RX packets: 144 errors: 0 [11:05] TX packets: 303 errors: [11:06] ok so it is connecting of sorts [11:06] RX bytes: 12601 (12.3KiB) [11:06] TX bytes: 35906 (35.0KiB) [11:06] that's slow [11:06] I'll exchange the cable [11:06] oh sorry [11:06] nm [11:07] try a new cable [11:07] seems like it should be working === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu [11:18] hm, I exchanged the cable [11:18] now I have 30/80 KiB [11:23] I'll exchange the NIC [11:23] I think it's broken [11:30] ok [11:53] any luck? === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [12:03] !seen Bluekuja [12:03] bluekuja is currently on #kubuntu (14h 5m 29s) #edubuntu (14h 5m 29s) #ubuntu (14h 5m 29s) [12:03] cbx33: I haven't tried it out yet [12:03] np [12:03] I ate lunch [12:10] edubuntugirl: hello [12:10] sup, JaneW! [12:11] edubuntugirl: how are you doing? [12:11] JaneW: I already know stuff about what how are [12:11] ok [12:11] I replaced the NIC [12:11] good for you [12:11] edubuntugirl: got plans for the week-end? [12:11] JaneW: *blink* [12:11] obviously not [12:11] edubuntugirl: I hope highvoltage is treating you well. [12:11] JaneW: okay === promin [n=pronode@about/cooking/nakedchef/quorn/smile] has joined #edubuntu [12:15] 12:14:30.386093 arp who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.2 [12:15] 12:14:30.386185 arp reply 192.168.1.1 is-at 00:0d:87:5f:4b:df (oui Unknown) [12:15] I get this on the server [12:15] but on the client I don't get anything === promin [n=pronode@about/cooking/nakedchef/quorn/smile] has left #edubuntu [] [12:32] JaneW: hi [12:32] hi cbx33 [12:32] I've started working on the testing procedures [12:32] you can take a look when you got a sec [12:32] cbx33: where is it? [12:32] cool [12:33] I am just working on weekly dev report [12:33] will look when I am done [12:33] please bear in mind these are proposals and drafts [12:33] all feedback is welcome [12:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/TestingPlan [12:33] highvoltage, said it all looked ok, he'd have a closer look in the morning [12:33] obviously it needs focusing but this is just a draft as I said [12:35] looks as if ogra hasn't got internet at his present location :p - he said he'd try to pop in if he could [12:36] where is he? [12:36] somewhere else in germany [12:36] ah [12:36] he said hed be back at the weekend [12:38] LaserJock_away: ping [12:41] lucasvo: did you have a look at those docs? [12:48] yes === jinty [n=jinty@76.Red-83-58-172.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:58] they look ok? === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-10-238-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [01:16] hi Yagisan [01:17] G'day cbx33 [01:20] howz life :p [01:22] cbx33: severely short of cash (under $500 left), need to make new advertising campaign to get customers, and somehow pull $12,000 out of my arse to my wife can see her parents. Yourself ? [01:22] s/to my/so my [01:23] oh dear [01:23] advertising campaign for? [01:27] cbx33: my business. Thats how I get money (or did before wifes injury ... :( ) [01:28] oh dear [01:28] what type of work you do [01:28] isn't life wonderful [01:28] indeed [01:28] cbx33: computer security [01:28] our guinea pig is sick [01:28] :( [01:28] bbl [01:29] :( === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === gcamposm [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-235-135.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [02:42] highvoltage: poke [02:44] ouch [02:45] highvoltage: may I say something like this on the list (wait till I write it) [02:45] Considering a lot of people threated me to shoot me down if I don't second highvoltage, I decided to back him up as well [02:46] :) [02:47] let's make it a real fact: pygi: I'll shoot you if you don't second him. [02:47] highvoltage: thoughts? [02:47] lucasvo: ok, may I quote you on that? [02:48] I don't care. [02:50] ah [02:53] hehe [02:53] you guys are psychos [02:53] :'( [02:53] i don't know if you shoudl say that. i'll leave that up to you ;) [02:53] pygi: sorry, just kidding :) === jinty [n=jinty@142.Red-83-35-222.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:53] I haven't said that :-P Read the list =P [02:54] bah, no need to appologize [02:54] ok :) === highvoltage doesn't believe in censorship [02:54] pygi: I'll post the conversation on the list? [02:54] lucasvo: no need =P [02:54] from 14:45 to 14:54 === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [02:55] but thanks [02:55] hi cbx33 [02:55] anybody has FUSE installed? [02:55] do you have /dev/fuse? [02:56] lucasvo: those docs look ok? === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [03:06] yes [03:06] crap!!! === lucasvo doesn't have a good day today [03:06] I can't login anymore [03:07] well, I can login into a gnome session but it doesn't loads the panel and all the other things [03:16] !seen heno [03:16] heno was last seen on IRC in channel #kubuntu, 13d 18h 40m 16s ago, saying: 'Several themes are affected, including Human.'. [03:17] !seen Yagisan [03:17] yagisan is currently on #edubuntu (2h 4m 3s) [03:17] Yagisan: can you send me the file again? [03:18] (movie list) === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu [03:37] lucasvo: done [03:37] man it's quiet [03:38] cbx33: oh, shall I continue on with my bad news then [03:38] cbx33: also went to the doctor today. some of my moles changed shape and colour =-O [03:39] cbx33: doctor was very concerned. They are to be removed now. === Yagisan lives in the skin cancer capital of the world === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu [03:52] Yagisan: yikes [03:53] I'll keep you and your family in my thoughts [03:53] cbx33: my wife is freaked out, I'm not very concerned [03:54] cbx33: it's not like I see sunlight often anyway ;) [03:54] Yagisan, I'm freakout and I don;t even know you personally [03:54] but I'm still concerned for you guys [03:54] thanks cbx33 [03:54] don;t know if you're a religious man but I'll pray for you:p [03:57] cbx33: I'm not, but thanks. I'm an atheist, married to a buddhist, living in a muslim area, of a generally christian city. [03:57] heheheh [03:57] that's a complicated situation [03:57] heheh === |Terje| [n=Terje@ws42245.studby.hig.no] has joined #edubuntu [04:00] cbx33: my wife and I have an agreement that works well. Don't try to convert the other. [04:01] indeed [04:01] my wife and I are similar, === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [04:01] not as extreme cases [04:01] w00t [04:01] hi ogra_ibook === ogra_ibook is now known as ogra [04:02] meep [04:02] cbx33: how long have you been married ? this will be my fifth year now [04:02] how was the trip [04:02] 2 years [04:03] G'day ogra, your lucky - you missed all my "poor me" bad news [04:03] the guinea pg is out of surgery [04:03] :D [04:04] cbx33: what was wrong ? (mine used to get stoned on iceberg lettuce) [04:04] ehe [04:05] the guinea pigs are fin, the dog is tired and the cats discover the new house [04:05] infection in womb [04:05] she was seriously on deaths door [04:05] cbx33: poor thing [04:05] oh, i thought you meant mine :) [04:05] we just moved the animals across the country [04:05] yes, they all ok...good good [04:05] cbx33: mine were poisoned, so I don't keep animals anymore [04:06] :( [04:06] ogra: you got time to see those docs? [04:06] :( I don't know by who either [04:06] or are you a busy ogra [04:08] i'm just trying to wake up a bit ... leave me some time ... [04:09] ogra: man I'm kidding [04:09] (we arrived at 5am and i only have slept 3h afetrwards) [04:09] eeeek [04:09] I was seriously joking [04:09] highvoltage looked at it and said they looked ok [04:09] ah, k [04:11] i'll give it an edit a bit later, rescuing a mediawiki right now... [04:11] ok np [04:11] which doc is that....the schools advocacy one [04:14] it's been updated now [04:14] right gotta packup [04:14] gonna do more work on the jouney homw === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [04:19] hey guys === sankarshan is now known as sm|steppedout [04:22] hey jsgotangco [04:22] ogra: see you in paris? hehe [04:23] will you be there ? [04:23] im supposed to be in somewhere in hannover around june... [04:24] really ???? [04:24] i am from hannover [04:24] lets meet there i'm just starting to move to kassel (150km southern) [04:25] when is the exact devel conf? [04:25] we're meeting people from jamba.de [04:26] the paris conf is from 18th - 24th June [04:33] ogra: any issue i should expect with our beta2 x86? [04:33] i just burned it [04:33] nope === sm|steppedout is now known as sankarshan [04:33] note that only the liveCD is beta2 [04:33] yeah [04:33] we didnt build install CDs [04:34] ogra: it doesn't contain the -21 kernel??? [04:34] it should [04:34] i updated -meta extra for that [04:34] can we merge next week for edubuntu-docs? [04:34] yep [04:35] cool there might be time for rosetta too === jsgotangco wonders if it would still fit [04:36] why not? [04:36] i personally dont feel bound to any artwork or doc freezes with edubuntu, we neither work with the docteam nor with the art team [04:36] im cool with that [04:37] ok i'm going to reboot this and install beta2 [04:37] as long as our docs are developed separately i dont think the freeze applies [04:37] yeah i agree [04:37] ok i [04:37] ok i'll brb === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [04:49] win 15 [05:00] ogra: out of curiosity, could cifs be used as a replacement for nfs for ltsp/edubuntu ? [05:01] yes, indeed [05:01] i dont think its desirable, but you could use it [05:03] ogra: oh ? I was just wondering. samba does work rather well, so I thought it might be an idea === |Terje| [n=Terje@ws42245.studby.hig.no] has left #edubuntu ["d'oh"] === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-141-13.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Bye"] === nomad [n=radioact@c-68-50-246-80.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === nomad [n=radioact@c-68-50-246-80.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu [] === LaserJock_away is now known as Laser_away === nomad [n=radioact@c-68-50-246-80.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [05:23] lucasvo: pong [05:26] what now? [05:36] nomad: huh? [05:37] LaserJock: I don't remember anymore :) [05:37] ah, yes [05:37] bzr [05:37] yeah [05:37] I had a problem with it [05:38] what kind of problem? === caravena [n=caravena@200.55.195.158] has joined #edubuntu [05:40] I wanted to branch but there was an error [05:40] I'll retry it right now [05:40] lucasvo: what version of bzr and where you using sftp? [05:40] s/where/sere/ [05:40] I was using http [05:41] lucasvo@supernova:~/bzr$ bzr branch http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ltsp/devel/ ltsp [05:41] bzr (bazaar-ng) 0.8rc1 [05:41] hmm, odd [05:42] lucasvo: hmm, it's fetching for me [05:43] [============================== ] fetch phase 2/4 [05:43] taking extremely long [05:43] LaserJock: it crashes before finishing step 2 [05:44] lucasvo: ok, I'll wait for mine to finish and see if it crashes [05:47] still stuck in the same position [05:47] hmm, I think that is where I'm at as well [05:54] LaserJock: were you able to download it? [05:54] lucasvo: nope, still stuck at the same place yours is at [05:55] crap === neurogeek [n=neurogee@200.93.35.152] has joined #edubuntu [05:55] lucasvo: I'm not sure what the problem would be. I've done other branches no problem. You might ask ogra or #bzr [06:01] lucasvo: I got it, it took a long time but it is here. [06:02]