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BearKnuckleHow can I setup a framebuffered grub-boot-menu?12:11
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BearKnuckle!grub12:12
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting12:12
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kev1n!sound12:13
ubotusound is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary12:13
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saaidafirefox12:16
Hobbsee!tell saaida about firefox1.512:16
saaidaThanx12:16
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yanishello12:26
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_chrishi12:26
yanisI have added some comments/thoughts to KDESimplify in the wiki12:27
yanisI intent to add a lot more12:27
_chriscool12:28
_chriswhats KDESimplify?12:28
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yanisit's some default options in Kubuntu that are different from the KDE project's one12:28
Hobbseeyanis: link?12:29
yanisjust a sec12:30
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saaidayanis : what kind of options are modifyed ?12:30
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yanisfor example:haven't you noticed that konqueror's menu has been modified?12:31
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yanishttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuSimplifyKDE12:32
yanisthat is the link12:32
crimsunIs anyone experiencing artsd pegging the cpu at 100% ?12:33
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crimsunif so, please query me12:33
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yaniscrimsun: a lot of app do that some times12:34
crimsunthis is artsd-specific12:34
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_chrisinteresting link12:34
steveirelo12:34
crimsunI have a fix, I just need to confirm it12:34
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yanis_chris: just post your ideas ;)12:34
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steveireis knaptic just as good as synaptic>12:35
robotgeeksteveire: in dapper, adept is better :)12:35
steveirehmmm...12:37
yanisUI of adept is very strange12:37
yanisi think it needs improvement..12:37
steveireWhen dapper is frozen, will I be using adept to update to it, or will I have to burn a new iso?12:37
steveireI use adept atm btw12:37
robotgeeksteveire: you can upgrade after changing sources.list12:38
robotgeekyanis: are you sure you are using the one in dapper12:38
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steveireI think I'll try Kynaptic. It seems everyone else uses synaptic...12:38
yanisrobotgeek: I use the version 112:38
steveireSo do I 1.012:38
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steveireNetwork question: Are there any issues going to come up if I install bind9 on my laptop and then connect it to the network in college? I think I had some DHCP thing running the last time (I had no idea what it was) and I got a phone call from Computing services. I think there's some issue about rogue DHCP or something. Anyone have any info?12:42
tarmathbind the dns server?12:43
steveireyes12:43
tarmathwhy would you need that on your laptop?12:43
steveireI selected network-manager, and it wants to install that too.12:43
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tarmathah, it probly needs the client tools maybe12:44
steveireAny issues there? Does that DHCP thing make sense to you?12:44
tarmathas long as you keep the server off, which you likely absolutely do not need, you'll be fine12:44
johntr7hi, can any1 tell me if theres a bugs channel or the like ?12:45
steveireIf I turn it on, that will create issues?12:45
tarmathyea I mean so your college network works with dhcp, which is exactly what most college networks do12:45
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tarmathno i doubt it12:46
tarmathoh you mean if the dns server is turned on?12:46
steveireAnd by me running dhcp from my laptop, what did that do?12:47
tarmathwell, nah it wont, but my guess is that you dont need it anyway12:47
steveireoh you mean if the dns server is turned on? <<< yeah12:47
steveireWhoa, that's getting a bit mixed up. I hope you're following12:48
tarmathits not mixed up12:48
steveireAnd by me running dhcp from my laptop, what did that do?12:48
tarmathnetwork-manager probly needs bind because it's using some tool included in the package12:48
tarmaththe college network runs a dhcp server12:49
tarmathso you need a dhcp client on your laptop to connect to that server and get an ip address12:49
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tarmathwhat is running on your laoptop is the dhcp client12:50
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steveireI think I installed a dchp server, and that caused the issue. It was a fedora core 5 install. I was just ticking all the boxes (my first linux attempt)12:51
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steveiredoes that make any sense?12:52
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steveireno one knows...12:55
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slow-motionn801:01
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mangangaHello there... is there any way to disable the Shutdown, reboot, etc options from the Login screen?01:03
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krenx!chroot01:06
ubotusomebody said chroot was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457501:06
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saaidahi there . any one can help with getting macromedia plug-in for firefox ?01:09
saaidai think they have some link problem on the macromedia site01:10
saaidahttp://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz01:10
saaidathis is the download location it gives01:10
saaidawhich gives an error01:10
robotgeeksaaida: remove the fp01:11
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robotgeekuse http://download.<blah> , saaida01:12
saaidalol 5 minutes trying to figure it out . guess im tired after the whole day linuxing :)01:13
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saaidabut kind satisfyed for 1st time linux install :)01:13
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saaidaThanx guys for the support . u been a good help all day long01:13
crwebi need some help with gam_server01:14
crwebit keeps going to 100% cpu01:14
crweband overheating me01:14
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krenxsudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap /// E: Couldn't find package dchroot01:18
crwebwouldn't it just be  chroot01:18
crwebnot  dchroot01:18
_chriswhy is my cd stuck in the disc tray?01:19
_chrisI cannot open my cdtray lol01:19
crweboh, nvrmind.  I have dchroot01:19
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crweb_chris: right click on it, hit umount/safely remove01:19
crwebor ejct01:19
krenxcrweb: dunno, im just following the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457501:20
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_christhanks01:20
crweb_chris: when it's "mounted", eject button won't work for safety reasons01:20
_chrisok01:20
krenxso, where do i get the package then ?01:21
HymnToLifeI remember it took me ages to figure that out when I was using debien some years ago ?01:21
HymnToLifelike "wgy the hell do I have to reboot to ejecd CDS, linux sucks" :p01:22
krenxlol01:22
crwebit's just the way it works,  Applie/osx works like that too01:22
crwebthey don't even give you a tray button01:22
crweblinux/unix/osx believes the mounted drive will exist while it is mounted, there for always in use01:23
krenxcould anyone help me settin up a t ?01:23
krenxopps01:23
crwebyou take a disc out in windows while the disc is being used, and you have bad results01:23
crwebsame process01:23
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_chrishow come I cant navigate the contents of my wireless network cards driver disc?01:24
_chrisall I get is manual, and start.exe01:24
crwebthen that's all there is01:24
_christhere should be more folders than that01:24
crwebwhy?01:24
crwebeverything must be built into start.exe01:24
_chrisoh01:24
_chrison suse it would show the different files01:25
crwebreally?01:25
crwebthat is strange01:25
crwebshow hidden files maybe?01:25
crwebunder view01:25
_chrishmm dosent work01:26
_christhis is really strange01:26
_chrisI guess I can just download the drivers01:26
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crwebsure that's not just a manual cd?01:27
_chrisyes01:27
crwebwhat card/driver disc?01:27
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_chrisits a wireless g plus Desktop card01:27
crwebright01:28
crwebmade by?01:28
_chrisbelkin01:28
crwebyup01:28
crwebmodel #?01:28
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_chrisnot sure01:29
_chrisisnt there a command I can run that will tell me?01:29
crwebhmm.. should be on the box,  or   lspci01:29
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_chrisI dont have the box01:30
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crwebi've got a whole stack of those cd's at my other place01:31
crwebcan't find one here01:31
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crwebi'll take a look at some of them01:31
crwebi have an idea of what it is01:31
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crwebthere is a "hidden" flag01:31
crwebsometimes wine makes you set it01:32
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_chrisoh01:32
crweb_chris: you want a fix?01:33
crwebwill take editing a file01:33
crwebas root01:33
_chriscrweb: Yes please01:33
crwebsudo nano -w /etc/fstab01:33
_chrisok01:33
crwebfind a line that says /media/cdrom001:34
crwebor something like that and paste it here01:34
_chrisok found it01:34
crweb(hightlight it,  middle click on your text entry box)01:34
HymnToLifeor use the old school Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V :p01:35
crwebmine is:  /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       001:35
_chrishere it is: /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto01:35
crwebctrl-c does not work in nano, in a konsole window01:35
crwebcool01:35
crwebyeah that's it01:35
crwebchange it to01:35
HymnToLifeoh yeah obviously01:36
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HymnToLifewell, I never use nano except in full command line on servers01:36
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crweb_chris:    user,noauto,unhide01:36
crwebchange nothing else01:37
_chrisok01:37
_chrisit should look like this correct? /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,unhide01:37
crwebmake sure that the 0  0   didn't make a new line01:37
_chrisits still on the same line01:38
crwebok01:38
crwebthat should be fine01:38
_chrisok01:38
crwebctrl-x, y01:38
_chrishow do I save and exit?01:38
Sergi0:)01:38
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HymnToLife_chris> Ctrl+O and then Ctrl+X01:38
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_chrisok01:38
crwebor just ctrl-x, y01:38
HymnToLifeand enter in between01:38
deuce868any active yakuake users? When I start it up from the command line it says it started but I get the Uh oh.. can't write data.. error01:39
crweb_chris: take your disc out, and put it back in when done01:39
Sergi0deuce868: yakuake?01:39
_chrisit works now!01:39
_christhanks :D01:39
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crwebsweet01:39
deuce868Sergi0: yes01:39
crwebcheap bastards01:39
mrfishhatMay i ask if anyone has had luck with dual monitors?01:39
Sergi0deuce868: whats that? :)01:39
crwebmrfishhat: i've got 301:40
crwebmrfishhat: works great01:40
crwebmrfishhat: there are several ubuntu howtos on the wiki01:40
deuce868Sergi0: seriously? It's a terminal window that attaches to the top of the screen and drops down when you hit F12.01:40
deuce868Very cool terminal app as it drops over your workspace and then slides up when you click off of it, but won't lose its place.01:40
deuce868I just did a series of updates today and now it won't start.01:41
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_chrisis there a way to change the single click to double click?01:41
Sergi0deuce868: ye seriously! :) never used it, dont need it i guess.01:41
crweb_chris: its in your settings area, under mouse01:41
mrfishhatcrweb: ill have t o search more next time thanks01:41
crwebmrfishhat: i'll be around on irc, just /msg me if you need extra help01:41
_chrisok thanks01:41
deuce868Sergi0: if you spend much time in a terminal it rocks. I use it for my svn commands and such01:41
crwebmrfishhat: sometimes there are "gotchas"01:42
crwebmrfishhat: there's no gui way to do it really01:42
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_chrisah after all of that, I get an invalid drivers error in ndiswrapper lol01:43
Sergi0deuce868: is it just for kde? or gnome?01:44
ph0nkHow can it be that XMMS plays my mp3-files well, but Kaffeine and amaroK dont? (Using Kubuntu Dapper Drake beta)01:44
eosynneed the gstreamer-ugly files01:45
eosynI think01:45
deuce868Sergi0: I think it's KDE. I've not tried it in Gnome01:45
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_chrisill be right back01:46
ph0nkthe weird thing is that it worked perfectly with breezy01:46
krenx!wine01:46
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crwebph0nk: xmms, and kde use different mp3 decoders01:47
ph0nkgstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is already installed.01:47
ph0nkcrweb, ok. do you have any idea of what i should do?01:48
krenxwhere can i get latest libwine _01:48
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crwebph0nk: google  Restricted formats Ubuntu01:48
crwebph0nk: there are directions for everything multimedia there01:48
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crwebph0nk: "restricted formats wiki"01:49
ph0nkcrweb: thanks. as i said before - it worked perfectly until i updated to dapper.01:49
crwebph0nk: yes, that would be correct01:49
crwebstuff changes01:50
crwebph0nk: the old mp3 stuff got removed probably01:50
ph0nkOkey.01:50
crwebdeuce868: works fine here01:50
crwebdeuce868: pretty sweet, thanks01:50
crwebdeuce868: it says "can't write data"  here too, but it's still working01:52
deuce868crweb: damn you!!! :-) What version of kubuntu are you using?01:52
crwebdeuce868: i suspect that when you start it from console the output is on the console not the x log file01:52
crwebdeuce868: dapper drake, 6.0601:52
deuce868crweb: hmmm, I guess I'll have to play some more. When I start it from a shortcut it says it's running and then hangs.01:52
deuce868It shows up in ps aux, but it isn't working.01:53
thoffmeyerhow do I change the clock to 12hour?01:53
crwebi just fresh installed it, and it works01:53
crwebthoffmeyer: right click -> date time format01:53
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thoffmeyercrweb: yes and..?01:54
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crwebthoffmeyer: change the time format?01:54
thoffmeyerthere no option for 12 hour01:54
crweb12 hour == AMPM01:54
thoffmeyerit's in there01:54
crwebdid you change it earlier?01:55
ph0nkseems like amaroK needed libxine-extracodecs01:55
crwebph0nk: yeah, that's it01:55
crweb;)01:55
thoffmeyercrweb: no01:55
ph0nk;)01:55
justanotherusermore people out there who lost there video in videoplayer after an upgrade in dapper?01:55
crwebph0nk: sorry, couldn't remember01:55
ph0nkno problem, thanks for your help anyway.01:56
crwebthoffmeyer: something is wrong then,  change it to HH:MM:SS, restart kde, then come back change it to AMPM, and restart kde01:56
crwebthoffmeyer: that should put it back on track01:56
thoffmeyeright01:56
thoffmeyerbrb01:56
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epI can i determine make/model of my video card02:01
ephow02:02
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crwebep: lspci02:02
bimberiep: 'lspci' in a terminal might tell you02:02
epok thx02:02
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t1kthe kubuntu cd I have is scratched.  Rather and make another one, I'm interested in doing a network (ftp) install.  Does kubuntu do that?02:03
t1kI looked in the wiki etc, but didn't find anything02:04
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crwebt1k: you could do an advanced install, install only the base system02:06
crwebt1k: and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:06
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crwebt1k: with apt-get you're basically doing a net install off the cd anyway02:07
t1kthe package that's failing is zlib, would the basic install avoid that?02:07
crwebyeah.. that's important02:07
crwebeven for net install02:07
krenxAnyone knows where i can get libwine*.deb for all architextures02:07
crwebzlib kinda makes it so you can install the packages02:07
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ph0nkcrweb: that sure sounds important to me :)02:07
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stodgeAnyone know if mysql5 is available for kubuntu?02:08
dj_gokustodge: you search in adept?02:08
stodgeYeah I only see 4 or 4.102:08
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crwebstodge: did you enable universe and multiverse, and backports?02:08
t1kI was afraid of that.02:08
dj_gokudid you enable (uni/multi)verse02:09
stodgehmmmm02:09
t1kthanks guys02:09
x1n933kI could use some ideas on if it is possible to login to kde with OS X software other than NX?02:09
x1n933kOver a network that is02:09
stodgeYes I think so02:09
crwebx1n933k: there is XDMCP02:09
dj_gokux1n933k: vnc?02:09
crwebx1n933k: and vnc02:09
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DarkShockit is normal that I get "kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!" when running kbuildsycoca (dapper amd64)02:10
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stodgedeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse02:10
dj_gokustodge: you think? so you changed them or?02:10
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stodgedeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse02:10
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stodgeAre those the right ones?02:10
dj_gokuare the deb src also changed?02:11
stodgeI don't have deb src ones selected - I don't want sourec installed02:11
crwebstodge: guess it's not in breezy then :(02:11
stodgeIt must be dapper only02:12
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dj_gokustodge: looks that way02:15
dj_gokuI only see 4.102:15
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__mikemhey, is the next version going to replace that yucky pasty blue color scheme currntly used in the kubuntu-desktop package02:17
dj_goku__mikem: you can always change the scheme =)02:18
Hobbsee__mikem: which one in particular, and are you talking about breezy or dapper?02:18
__mikemI am currently using breezy02:20
__mikemI think it would be a nice idea if they implimented the humanity scheme for kde02:20
__mikemi tried to do it myself, but found it difficult02:20
__mikemI eventually got it done02:20
Hobbseeit's been changed in dapper02:20
__mikemcould I have a screen shot02:21
__mikemGlad to hear it by the way02:21
Hobbseeyeah, me too02:21
Hobbseeer...they're on the wiki...02:21
Hobbseenick Hobbsee_away02:21
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Hobbsee_away(who nicked off with my /????)02:21
__mikemnot me02:21
__mikemmaybe someone hacked the chanel02:22
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Hobbsee_awayhehe02:22
__mikemi suppose you could nick back though02:22
ph0nkmaybe special agents from microsoft.02:22
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Hobbsee_awayhehe02:23
justanotheruseris there a know issue with updates(dapper) or is my system terroring me (all movies doesn't show video anymore)02:23
ph0nkActually, i have worked @ microsoft :)02:24
crwebi ain't afraid of metally handcap people02:24
crwebmicrosoft agents or not02:24
__mikemCool, in all seriousness I have heard their hq in washington is the coolest place02:24
crwebas much money as they have02:25
crwebit better be02:25
ph0nkHumm, the Stockholm-office is not really cool.02:25
ph0nkIt's mostly grey...02:25
__mikemWell, you worked for them, you get used to it, we don't02:25
crwebi'd shoot myself02:25
__mikemheres a question, whats a microsoft veterin doing using a gnu/linux distro02:26
justanotheruseri'd rather eat my own shit02:26
ph0nkHaha. As an IT consultant i could end up anywhere.02:26
crweb__mikem: see above02:26
__mikemlol, o my02:26
crweb__mikem: you odn't think MS uses linux?02:26
crwebthey have a huge linux lab02:26
ph0nki've also worked @ Adobe and IBM. All places were really booring.02:26
__mikemI think they use it but they are too arogant to admit that windows sucks02:27
crweb__mikem: everything has a purpose02:27
__mikemaparently windows server's place is NOT hosting hotmail though02:27
ph0nkWhen i worked @ ms they didn't allow me to install firefox on my laptop. It would be "emberassing if any costumer would see it". Hey, it's my laptop?02:27
crwebsome software is better for some needs,  they use that software where they need to02:27
__mikemnot surprised02:28
crwebisn't running IE embarrassing enough?02:28
__mikemdid they make you remove all gnu software also02:28
__mikemlol, no, running microsoft anti-spyware is worse02:28
crweba company that can't stop spyware from being installed on it's own OS02:29
__mikemnot nearly as bad as installing msn desktop search02:29
__mikemyup my point exactly02:29
crwebsure as hell can't make software to remove spyware02:29
HymnToLifeworst MS app ever : Windows Movie Maker, now THAT's a pice of crap02:29
__mikemamen02:29
__mikemthe only thing more pointless is outlook express02:30
ph0nkcrweb: Yeah, that SHOULD be embarrassing enought. But they were proud of iexplore, they thought it was "misunderstood".02:30
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__mikemwow, lets see02:30
crwebi could believe that02:30
crwebit's highly misunderstood02:30
ph0nk__mikem: No, the beef was only about firefox vs. iexplore.02:30
__mikema web browser that is so full of holes it looks (and smells) like swiss chese02:30
crwebpeople expect it not to allow people to install spyware, adware, and virus.  IE is HIGHLY misunderstood.02:30
ph0nklol02:31
__mikemthousands of exploit based virus installs per day02:31
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crwebi'm just happy i can run it in Wine02:31
=== crweb j/k
__mikemI compiled cedega from cvs to run bejeweled02:32
klondike Excuse my intromision but  I think as  crweb02:32
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__mikemthat was weird02:32
justanotheruserwtf?02:32
klondikeI was a windows user and I used Iexplorer and Firefox02:32
__mikemI thought that was what it said before02:32
Riddellapokryphos: can you set -t as well please02:32
__mikemI used to use ie, then I saw the light02:32
klondikeI did a te st, eith Iexplorer I had some adware in  2 days02:33
crwebi never used IE02:33
__mikemgood for you02:33
klondikewith mozilla no one :-)02:33
crwebi just heard it was bad02:33
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crwebfigured it was on my own too02:33
apokryphosRiddell: sure02:34
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__mikemthe most pointless thing ever created by ms, the office paperclip02:34
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crwebnah, he was just before his time02:34
__mikemthats one way of looking at it02:34
crweband written poorly..02:34
crwebbut we can't hold that against him02:34
__mikemI guess I can say one good thing about microsoft, they did a good job designing and implimenting the .NET framework/runtime02:35
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crwebyeah.. it was amazing02:35
crwebthey practically copy and pasted java02:35
crweband stuff02:35
__mikemno, its way better than java02:36
crweboh?02:36
crwebyou mean you can run .net software on linux?02:36
crwebcause, it IS java02:36
crwebwithout crossplatform support02:36
__mikemever hear of mono02:36
crwebumm, yes02:36
crwebheh02:36
crwebironically i have02:36
klondikeexcuse I've to go here it's 2:3 0 AM02:37
crweb;)02:37
klondikecu02:37
__mikemc ya02:37
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__mikemFrom a programmers perspective, I find the c# programming language to be of better design than java02:37
crweblol02:37
DarkShockeven handling in Java/Swing sucks02:38
crwebthe fact that, you can change just a few lines of java code, and compile it in C# doesn't bother you?02:38
__mikemthat is not entirely true.02:38
crwebi'm sorry, but I'd rather have sun controlling that market than MS02:39
__mikemSo would I, but the fact is microsoft has the better product02:39
crwebonly because they ripped off java, and fixed a few of the people's complaints02:39
DarkShockwith .NET, you are not tied to C# only02:40
__mikemits business, and microsoft is (unfortunately) good at it02:40
crwebwith .NET you are tied to windows02:40
crwebthats what they really want02:40
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DarkShockyes02:40
crwebsure, there is C# linux support02:40
crwebit's basic02:40
DarkShockit would be worse with Vista02:40
__mikemDarkSHock not true, you can use vb.net c++, ocml, java (j#) pascal (borland delphi), and many others02:41
__mikemocAml rather02:41
__mikemthey even have sml for .net02:41
__mikemI hate *ml based languages, but they are there02:41
DarkShock__mikem: re-read my sentence02:41
crweb__mikem: that's what he said02:41
__mikemoh, I didn't see the word NOT,02:41
__mikemsorry02:41
crweb__mikem: from a developers stand point, it was much much easier to make qt -> java bindings, than qt -> C#02:42
__mikemas far as minimul linux support for c#, I wouldn't really use c# for much more than whats supported, if you are talking about more intense apps, I would do it in c/c++02:42
DarkShockleave C# to GNOME02:42
__mikemI will also write assembly if I have to02:42
crwebI'm part of a team, making mono qt bindings02:43
__mikemcool02:43
DarkShockwe are ok with C++/Qt, PyQt, PyKDE and Ruby02:43
__mikemI have been trying to track down a book on Qt for c++02:43
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DarkShock__mikem: there is02:43
__mikemI am sure there is02:44
crweb__mikem: there is a good qt4 book, in the links on www.trolltech.com02:44
DarkShock__mikem: C++ GUI Programming with Qt302:44
crweb__mikem: and its free02:44
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DarkShockthe Qt4 version isn't released yet02:44
crwebi heard june/july for C++ Gui programming with qt402:44
DarkShockcrweb: you are developing Qt mono bindings and you are bashing .NET, isn't a bit weird ?02:44
crwebthere is a new book out though02:44
crwebDarkShock: we do what we do.02:45
crwebDarkShock: doesn't mean i support .net02:45
__mikemDarkShock I aggree with you02:45
crwebi support qt02:45
__mikemI support .net but I don't like the company, that is where I stand as weird as it is02:45
crwebi can't stand behind something that the community has no involvment with02:46
crwebthe problem with mono is, it will always be catchup02:46
DarkShockI was a hobbist C# developer before moving to Linux/KDE02:46
crweband MS can break it at any time02:46
__mikemall valid02:46
crwebhttp://www.informit.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0131879057&rl=102:46
__mikembut why would they want to break it02:46
crweb__mikem: ask novell,  netscape, aol, or any other company that has relied on a microsoft library02:47
crwebhttp://www.trolltech.com/developer/books.html02:47
crwebthe 2nd book on that list is free02:47
h3sp4wn.net is too slow02:47
crwebjust create an account02:47
__mikemh3sp4wn I know how to write in x86 assembly also, is that fast enough for you?02:48
crwebit's only fast, if you know what you are doing02:48
crweb;)02:48
DarkShockkubuntu-desktop dependency is a bit broken, if I try to remove kopete, it ask me to remove kubuntu and kdenetwork (which I don't want)02:48
__mikemtrue, but I have read plenty of books and wrote plenty of code02:48
crwebyou need to look into history02:49
crwebon why you don't tie your applications to microsoft02:49
crwebmore recent history02:49
__mikemI aggree, gnu should be doing is writing an open source version of .net, how does OpenNET sound to you02:49
crwebad-aware, norton suite, avg antivirus02:49
crwebetc02:49
crwebsure, they can write it02:50
crwebbut MS controlls the standard02:50
crwebif you want something "like" .net02:50
__mikemso you are saying that microsoft will dilliperately change it to circumvent the efforts of gnu02:50
__mikemall gnu needs to do is keep following them untill there are no changes they could posibly make without degrading the quality of the product02:50
crwebdo you seriously doubt that they wouldn't?02:50
__mikemsee above02:51
crwebheh02:51
crwebevery upgrade02:51
crwebevery service pack02:51
crweblook at what sp2 broke02:51
__mikemif thats what it takes to take down the man02:51
crwebthey don't care02:51
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__mikemSooner or later, microsoft will fall, its just how it is02:52
crwebyou will never catch up to .net02:52
crwebbecause, it's not open02:52
crwebtheres nothing saying MS has to keep the API the way it is02:52
crwebyou wrote your software in .net02:52
DarkShock__mikem: agreed02:52
crwebif MS changes, YOU change your code02:52
h3sp4wnmikem: Is there any examples on the net of programs you have worked on or written is assembler ?02:52
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crweb__mikem: read the holloween letters,  MS did just that to novell constantly02:52
__mikemI have the source code for a disassembler I wrote a while ago, but its quite huge02:53
__mikemit was writen in c++ though02:53
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crweb__mikem: look at what vista is going to break02:53
__mikemeverything02:53
crweb__mikem: anything pre directx 10, won't work02:53
crwebthat's every game ever made02:53
DarkShockUAP is a real joke in his current state according to websites02:54
DarkShockUAP = User Account Protection02:54
crwebyou really think MS cares?02:54
__mikemNOpe02:54
DarkShocksomething UNIX has since the beginning02:54
DarkShockMS only care about your money02:54
crwebso what stops them from making changes just to break mono?02:54
sheldonccrweb: where the hell did you get this info from? <crweb> __mikem: anything pre directx 10, won't work02:54
crwebnothing right now, cause mono isn't a threat02:54
__mikemThe ironic thing is, microsoft is afraid of the linux camp02:55
crwebsheldonc: from the new sublayer for opengl/directx02:55
__mikembecause they know linux is better, all someone needs to do is create a good linux distro and market it properly02:55
sheldonccrweb: but what doc says that no legacy games will be supported?02:55
__mikemubuntu could have been that distro if someone would put some investment into marketing02:55
__mikemcrweb, this is where you are going to have to back up your claims, good luck02:56
crwebunless they cancelled the new graphics later, directx 9 was not compatable02:56
crweband opengl was going to run on top of directx 1002:56
crwebok, looks like they made a DX9 LDDM driver02:58
crwebmy bad02:58
DarkShockcrweb: didn't read that02:58
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crwebhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/DirectX-10-and-so-it-ends-7762.shtml02:59
DarkShockVista isn't the Windows release that MS will cut backwards compability03:00
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XVampireXHi03:00
crwebthat was september of 200503:00
crwebso maybe they changed their minds03:00
XVampireXCan anyone please tell me if there's some package in the repositories which combines everything to startup with programming?03:01
sheldonccrweb: "Even so, dear Microsoft hasn't totally forgotten us. Some sort of compatibility will be available through a software layer (probably some emulation)"03:01
crwebright, but the fact is, they broke it03:01
DarkShockXVampireX: build-essential ?03:01
crwebyou really want to play your games emulated?03:02
crwebthere's already speed issues03:02
XVampireXIs that just the libraries? What about the programs...?03:02
DarkShockXVampireX: the basic thing you need to compile a software03:02
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crwebsheldonc: you think the emulation will be good?03:02
___mikemsorry, my laptop died so I couldn't respond, what did I miss03:02
DarkShockXVampireX: I would do "apt-get install build-essential automake1.9 kdelibs4-dev unsermake"03:03
crweb___mikem: directx pre 10 was cut, but probably will run in an emulation layer03:03
sheldonccrweb: no, but it is somewhat supported03:03
___mikememulation never works as well, and it probably will have limited support03:03
___mikemtoo much overhead in most cases03:03
sheldoncit will probably run total annihilation though, thats all that matters :P03:04
crweblol03:04
crwebhopefully03:04
crwebthat was DX5 though03:04
crwebor 603:04
XVampireXDarkShock: Thanks, say, does it by any chance include Python?03:04
___mikemALl I care about is bejeweled chessmaster and rollercoaster tycoon03:04
DarkShockXVampireX: add kdesdk to that list, now ready to compile a KDE software :)03:04
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DarkShockXVampireX: I don't think so03:04
___mikemOne thing I am worried about, will FInale still work?03:04
XVampireXOh, so I'll have to install it manually, oh well :P03:04
crweb___mikem: can  you not do that in wine?03:05
XVampireXWhat's a good IDE for python?03:05
crweb___mikem: i've had rollerc, in wine before03:05
___mikemI use the cvs version of cedega03:05
crwebi do to03:05
crwebsometimes wine is better though03:05
DarkShockXVampireX: I haven't looked at Python yet03:05
crwebspecially lately03:05
XVampireXAh, alright03:06
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___mikemfor games you generally want to use cedega03:06
XVampireXCause I want to learn programming, and I hear Python is good for starters?03:06
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___mikemI recomend learning c as a first language, its difficult, but if you stick with it, its worth it03:06
crweb___mikem: for instance freelancer,  wine only03:06
jjesse!ubuiquity03:06
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jjesse03:06
jjesse!espresso03:06
ubotujjesse: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:06
crwebXVampireX: python is very good for starters03:06
___mikem!ping03:07
ubotupong03:07
DarkShockXVampireX: I heard that too03:07
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XVampireXYeah, hehe03:07
justanotheruserXVampireX: i hear good things about eric303:07
crwebXVampireX: i recommend not learning languages, and instead learning "how to program"03:07
SeantaterI use and would recommend python03:07
___mikemI may be just a 17 year old code monkey, but I think he should learn c first03:07
HymnToLifeamen to crweb03:07
XVampireXSay, would Python work well for netcode?03:07
Seantaterprobably03:08
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SeantaterThere's php too03:08
XVampireXcrweb: Yes, That's what I want :P03:08
SeantaterBut I -think_ google uses python...03:08
XVampireXWhat's eric3?03:08
crwebXVampireX: start building algorithms and stuff03:08
SeantaterA python IDE03:08
XVampireXAh03:08
justanotheruseryes: http://www.linuxjournal.com/articles/web/2004-08/7739/7739f1.png03:08
XVampireXI'll check it out03:08
crwebXVampireX: make lists in python, and sort them, learn all the sorts, learn how to make lists, and storage methods03:08
___mikemdoes pythos support pointers?03:09
crweblearn how to "think" and problem solve, language independant03:09
XVampireXYeah, cause I have had a little project I designed, got someone to help me out. But he said C# (Since he was using C#) that netcode will be slower on interpreted languages03:09
___mikem*python rather03:09
DarkShockno pointer in Python03:09
___mikemdarnit03:09
DarkShockXVampireX: what is your little project03:09
XVampireXIs Bittorrent protocol completely based on Python?03:09
___mikemthen whats the point03:09
crwebXVampireX: i learned qt without knowing any c++03:10
crwebXVampireX: qt takes care of a lot of stuff for you03:10
XVampireXYes, I saw that :)03:10
DarkShockXVampireX: yes03:10
crwebsometimes, i resort to qt, for basic console apps03:10
XVampireXMy "little" project is Peer to Peer net code03:10
XVampireXfor MMORPGs03:10
crwebits just nice03:10
___mikemIve seen python source code, it looks like a nice clean language, but in my book, lack of pointer support is a no-no03:10
SeantaterAnyone know where I can get help on PyKDE, I never could figure it out..03:11
crwebit's nice to learn algorithms, and stuff, without having to worry about memory managment03:11
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XVampireXYeah, If Python is efficient enough for Net Code, that would be just great!03:11
crwebif you're wanting to "learn how to think"  yo uodn't want to be fighting with pointers and dynamic memory 95% of the time03:12
saaidaguys : how i can enable swap files ?03:12
___mikemI am sorry, but I have always been a masocist03:12
DarkShockcrweb: you have a point03:12
crwebI program in pseudo code03:12
crwebi think in pseudo code,03:12
___mikemonce I wrote a very simplistic windows app in assembly language just so I could say I did03:12
DarkShockI think in pseudo C++03:12
crwebthen i pick a language after the functin is done03:12
crwebright03:12
crwebwell, WE do that03:13
crwebcause we know C++ now03:13
Seantatersaaida: read up of swapon03:13
yanishah ___mikem03:13
crwebbut if you know nothing about language syntax03:13
Seantatersaaida: try doing swapon /path/to/swapfile03:13
crwebyou are going to waste ALL of your time, trying to figure out if you passed by value, refference, or did i pass a pointer?03:13
XVampireXI got a friend who is studying multiple languages in school03:13
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dj_gokucrweb: use java then =)03:13
crweblearn the algorithms and problem solving03:14
yanisyou're right crweb03:14
crwebget a book to do syntax03:14
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__mikemtook long enough03:14
crwebgive me 2 days, i can write you stuff in any language03:14
crwebjust give me a syntax book03:14
crwebwell..03:14
crwebmaybe not asm03:15
dj_gokuhaha03:15
__mikemI know asm, haha03:15
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__mikemlol03:15
__mikemjk03:15
yaniscrweb: some lang are complicated03:15
yaniscrweb: not every language is like C03:15
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dj_gokuI like Java so far.03:15
crwebi use scheme, java, c++ c, python, perl03:15
crwebc# now03:15
__mikemBASIC, SML, CAML, OCAML, PASCAL, non c like languages03:15
crwebmy point is,  a sort algorithm is a sort algorithm03:16
__mikemAPL?03:16
crwebif you can't sort something03:16
crwebit doesn't matter what language you use03:16
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__mikemcrweb, how about APL?03:16
crweband if you just learn a langauge03:16
crwebhow do you even know sorting exists03:16
ubuntuhi folks.  have a simple question:  was going to install kubuntu's latest beta, but the installer from the live cd is not working properly.  am i better off installing the latest stable? i would like to dual boot w/ windoze03:17
dj_goku__mikem: what is apl?03:17
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crwebyeah, not familiar with apl03:17
HymnToLifeubuntu > I would install Breezy then upgrade to Dapper, yes03:17
__mikemAPL = A Programming Language (Literally), its an obscure language that requir3es a special keyboard and uses mathematical notation for expressions03:17
dj_gokuoh03:18
ubuntuhymn, thx, that's what i was thinking.  thx man.03:18
crwebif you know how to sort,  to sort in APL, guess you would need the keyboard, and a book to give you syntax03:18
getafixdoes anyone have any idea when i try to play a cd using amarok that it stutters?03:18
getafixalso any idea why i can03:18
HymnToLife!tell getafix about dma03:18
getafix't change the resolution above 102403:18
h3sp4wngetafix: amarok-xine ?03:18
crwebif you know the stuff to get the job done,  even if it's english sentances, you understand enough you can adapt03:19
XVampireXYeah, you need to use xine03:19
crwebto any language03:19
__mikeminsidently, sorting in asm is easy if you are using the c runtime library functions03:19
getafixxine is installed03:19
getafixi installed i think03:19
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getafixthrough adept?03:19
XVampireXIt doesn't matter through what03:19
XVampireXGo to configurations and see if xine is chosen03:19
getafixhaha hey mikem03:19
XVampireXis Engine03:19
h3sp4wngetafix - you need to make sure amarok-xine is installed (will remove amarok-gstreamer)03:19
flackanyone: Can I get help, Im trying to install a tv tuner card onto my computer, but I fail at life. I have narrowed it down to this walkthrough: http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=KubuntuHowTo03:19
getafixlogans brother?03:19
__mikemhello getafix03:20
getafixstill in central?03:20
flackFATAL: Module ivtv not found.03:20
flackanyone: modprobe ivtv echos ^^^03:20
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XVampireXWOW! Eric is a HEAVY IDE.03:21
XVampireXAnd I mean it in a good way03:22
__mikemdoes it have a wysiwyg03:22
flackAny help guys? :-(03:22
h3sp4wnwhat is ivtv suppost to be ?03:22
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__mikemtv tuner I think h3sp4wn03:23
__mikembrb03:23
flackh3sp4wn?03:23
__mikemback03:24
flackOh, wow, never mind03:24
flackits a tv tuner card03:24
flack(or drivers for it)03:24
tarmathany of you know how to view the differences between 2 language locales? or some ressource that would help be about it?03:24
DarkShockwhich two languages ?03:25
getafixanyone know why konsole is telling me that sudo gedit command isn't found?03:25
XVampireXmikem: No but it has integration with QT toolkits03:25
h3sp4wnflack: free or non-free ?03:25
flackgetafix: Is gedit installed?03:25
tarmathDarkShock: lets say no_NO and nn_NO03:25
flackh3sp4wn: free03:25
getafixhaha hah appernetly not cheers flack03:25
h3sp4wnflack: included in which package ?03:26
flackgetafix: :-P03:26
flackh3sp4wn: Downloaded the source from the site I linked you to, apt-get didn't have it03:26
DarkShocktarmath: like en_US and en_GB, but no idea how to compare two locales03:27
h3sp4wnflack: there is no link being pasted in here in recent past03:27
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flackhttp://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=KubuntuHowTo03:28
getafixheh reading news about vista today inspired me to come and learning kubuntu better and get it set up sweet03:28
getafixahh learn03:28
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tarmathDarkShock: are en_US and en_GB really different?03:29
rootvikhi03:29
DarkShocktarmath: yes03:29
tarmathDarkShock: bleh!03:30
__mikemdoes anyone have a screenshot of kubuntu dapper03:30
tarmathno info available anywhere dang it!03:30
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DarkShock__mikem: I can make you one, but I changed the color scheme a bit03:30
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tarmath__mikem: man there's dapper screenshots everywhere just google for em03:30
rootvikim kubuntu install03:31
tarmathhi rootvik03:31
krenxHow do i enable Universe and Multiverse repos  ?03:32
rootvikhi tarmath03:32
flackh3sp4wn: Any ideas why modprobe would echo not found?03:32
h3sp4wnflack: what directory are you running modprobe from ? did it make successfully ?03:32
HymnToLifekrenx> ksudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list - remove the # at he beginning of lines wentioning Universe/Multiverse03:33
HymnToLifesudo* sorry03:33
flackh3sp4wn: Im just running it from the ivtv/drivers/ directory, and yes, it did make successfully03:33
h3sp4wnflack: do ls -l | grep -i ivtv03:34
tarmaththe directory you're running modprobe from doesnt matter, your module has to be in the right folder03:34
tarmathyou ran make install too right?03:34
h3sp4wnyou need to run depmod -a03:35
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flackh3sp4wn: Everything in there is with the prefix iptv-, I did run makeinstall, havn't tired depmod -a, Ill do that now03:35
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krenxHymnToLife:  thx03:36
h3sp4wnflack: is iptv.ko there ?03:36
flackh3sp4wn: Same erro :-( (after running depmod -a)03:36
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h3sp4wnor ivtv.ko sorry03:37
flackh3sp4wn: Yes, it is there03:37
justanotheruserthe dates on the frontpage of kubuntu.org don't match03:38
Hobbsee!tell krenx about repos03:38
h3sp4wnflack: insmod ./ivtv.ko03:38
__mikemI can't find any screen shots with the origonal theme03:38
flackh3sp4wn: insmod: error inserting './ivtv.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module03:39
h3sp4wnflack: did you run that with sudo ?03:40
flackh3sp4wn: yes03:40
h3sp4wnflack: otherwise try using modprobe ./ivtv.ko03:40
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flackh3sp4wn: FATAL: Module ./ivtv.ko not found.03:41
flackh3sp4wn: ><03:42
flackh3sp4wn: Any other ideas? (I really appreciate all the help you've tried to give so far :-) )03:44
__mikemfinally, found some, and not to shabby03:44
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andre_My kde fonts are abnormally tiny...   this happened after a recent system update. I'm running dapper drake, I use kde but I use GDM as my login manager, so the known bug about KDM doesn't apply.  can anyone offer any other advice?03:47
h3sp4wnflack: Do you have a copy of the firmware ?03:47
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h3sp4wnflack: it says '    *  Copy the appropriate firmware into /lib/modules '03:48
flackh3sp4wn: Erm, no :-(03:49
flackh3sp4wn: What does that mean? I dont know where to get the firmware? or which to use?03:50
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h3sp4wnflack: try http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu (seems more complete)03:53
flackh3sp4wn: Thanks much!03:54
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krenxwhats the command to entering desktop? kdm start dont work wtf? :P03:56
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__mikemok I am back03:56
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ablysskrenx sudo /etc/init.t/kdm start03:58
krenxyea03:59
krenxdont work, i think i messed a cfg file up lol03:59
ablysswhat is your error03:59
krenxsays nothing04:00
krenxnothing happens04:00
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ablyssmaybe you're on tty104:00
krenxtty1  ?04:00
mo0sehow do you install an .rpm thingie?04:00
bimberikrenx: how about startx ?04:01
krenxi saw tty1 somewhere :P04:01
ablysspress control+alt+F704:01
ablyssdoesn't make since though.. typing sudo ./gdm start should give you some sort of feedback04:01
ablyssor ./kdm in your case04:02
ablyssmoOSE, install alien04:02
bimberimo0se: you can use "alien", are you sure there's no ubuntu package available?04:02
bimberi!alien04:02
ubotuI heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/04:02
ablyssmo0se, install alien then type sudo alien --install rpm_app.rpm04:03
ablyssalien has been most helpful for me04:03
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__mikemwhy is its use discouraged then?04:04
ablyssbut i stick with redhat 9 rpms04:04
ablysswell probably because its not supported by ubuntu04:04
krenxgah04:04
nsmum this might sound stupid but i screwed up my kde fonts, i am using kubuntu 5.1004:04
mo0sewoo! me too.04:05
mo0se:P04:05
nsmrestroing defaults just restores all of them to sans serif04:05
krenxstartx or gdm start dont work04:05
ablyssi installed wine using alien and vice versa04:05
nsmcan anyone please list the font for each type eg. Menu, toolbar, from kcontrol fonts04:05
nsmthe default, kubuntu look good fonts04:05
ablysshmm04:06
ablyssDejaVu Sans is what i use.04:06
bimberiablyss: i guess you were lucky then (with alien) :-)04:07
ablyssyeah.. i prefer to stick with deb if possible04:07
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ablyssonly on last desperate apps that I most have04:08
ablyssmost/must04:08
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getafixwhats the kill command for stuff?04:10
getafixlike say a program crashes how can i just kill it04:11
ablyssseveral ways04:11
ablyssbut typically a program that has crash is killed anyway.. those that hang or go into a bottleneck will need to be killed04:12
getafixwell adept appears to have crashed04:13
getafixand its hogging all the resources04:13
chip42getafix: kill or killall.. i.e. killall -9 adept04:13
ablyssgetafix, 1 use the GUI by running xkill, 2. type kill -9 PID 3. killall -9 app signature04:13
mo0seis it possible to view and modify files in an ntfs partition?04:13
mo0sefrom kuuuubuuuntuuuu?04:14
getafixoperation not permitted?04:14
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ablyssmo0se, only if you're savvy with hex editing ;-)04:14
chip42getafix: adept is running as root... you will have to kill it as root04:14
getafixahh done04:14
getafixyeha04:14
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mo0sereally?04:14
getafixsudo means run as root?04:14
mo0sethat sucks.04:15
ablyssmo0se, viewing is okay04:15
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chip42getafix: yeah04:15
__mikemsudo means run as root to a degree, there are still things you can't do, as specified by the sudoers file04:15
Hobbseemo0se: view, yes, modify no.04:15
ablyssbut editing is not possible unless you use a special tool04:15
getafixsweet04:15
__mikemyou can use su to become root though04:15
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getafixahh ta04:15
mo0secan i move them from the ntfs partition to my kubuntu partition?04:16
Hobbseemo0se: yep04:16
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ablyssno04:16
ablyssyou can only copy04:16
Hobbseeoh, my error04:16
__mikemI kind of have an embarasing confession, right now I am on a fedora core machine because my ubuntu box overheated and died04:16
ablyssi guess if you delete the originals after copy you can say there are now moved :P04:17
steveklmo0se: moving implies that you delete it after you copy it, you see04:17
mo0seoh.04:17
mo0seokay..04:17
steveklAnd you can't delete things on an ntfs drive04:17
steveklBut you can copy it04:17
mo0seso how do i copy it to my linux partition?04:17
mo0sei seem to be having problems with that.04:17
mo0seit gives me an error whenever i try.04:17
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ablyssnow getting things complicated.. say he runs bochs and loads a windows and is able to mount this partition with the files.. maybe he can...... oh never mind04:18
getafixhow can i amke this realize my video card and change refresh rates and resolution04:18
getafixi used adept and got the nvidia tool but i don't know how to run that tool?04:18
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mo0sepeople seem to keep saying i have to mount the partition...04:19
mo0seit's already mounted...04:19
mo0sei think... i mean... i can see it in konqueror...04:20
__mikemgo into a terminal and mount it mount -o rw <name of partition>04:20
steveklmo0se: Are you trying to do this in the console or in konquerer?04:20
mo0seuhm...04:20
mo0sekonqueror.04:20
Hobbseemo0se: then just copy the files that you want over04:20
__mikembad idea04:20
steveklmo0se: go into a console and type 'mount', that will show you everything that you have mounted04:20
steveklif it's not on that list, then it's not mounted04:20
mo0seokay.04:20
ablyssmo0se, so do you get "you dont have the right privileges to move the file" ??04:21
mo0sehow do i get to the console?04:21
__mikemwhen I first started out, mounting was a hard concept to get04:21
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mo0seno. i don't see any files.04:21
steveklopen the program called 'konsole'04:21
mo0seit gives me an error.04:21
getafixWarning: your X configuration has been succesfully changed.04:21
getafixIn order to take full advantage of the changes, X needs to04:21
getafixbe restarted.04:21
getafixdoes that mean just restart kubuntu?04:21
stevekltype alt+f2 and enter 'konsole' in the box04:21
ablyssgetafix, no04:21
ablyssgetafix, means restart kdm04:22
mo0seit shows "/dev/sda2 on /media/sda2 type ntfs (rw)"04:22
getafixand kdm is?04:22
__mikemno, it means log out, hit cntrl alt backspace, kill off x, and restart it04:22
steveklgetafix: no, restart X by logging out, and when you're at the login thingie, press ctrl+alt+backspace to kill X04:22
stevekland you SHOULD be restarted into X04:22
mo0sethat means it's mounted, right?04:22
steveklif you're not, lt me know04:22
getafixok cool04:22
steveklmo0se: yeah that looks right04:22
steveklmo0se: ok do you know how ot navigate around the directories, with cd and stuff?04:22
mo0seyeah. so when i try to access it in konqueror, it says "could not enter folder /media/sda2."04:23
steveklwell, do this04:23
steveklFirst, "sudo -s"04:23
steveklthat will bring you into superuser mode04:23
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mo0seokay.04:23
steveklit will ask you for your password04:23
mo0senow it says root@ubuntu:04:23
steveklok good04:23
steveklnow do "cd /media/sda2"04:23
ablyss__mikem, now is your method of restarting X better than my way .. i.e., sudo /etc/init.t/kdm restart ?04:23
__mikemyou could have also just typed su04:24
XVampireXAwesome introduction to Python: http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/04:24
getafixsorry what do i do to kill x again i ctrl al backspaced out and forgot04:24
getafixhaha04:24
mo0sewhat will that do?04:24
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stevekl__mikem: su would have asked him for his ROOT password. sudo -s asks him for his user's password04:24
__mikemI don't know ablyss,04:24
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mo0sewhat is my root password?04:24
steveklmo0se: that will change directory to /media/sda204:24
__mikemoh04:24
steveklmo0se: you don't have one probably04:24
ablyss__mikem, i dont know either :-)04:24
mo0seaah...04:24
steveklyou don't need one, either04:24
__mikemmoOse, you need to set that up04:24
__mikemto do so, just type sudo passwd root04:24
steveklWell you might need one but that's another show04:24
steveklone thing at a time, __mikem :)04:25
__mikemlol ok04:25
mo0seohh... i think i remember this from a little tutorial thingie...04:25
steveklmo0se: ok are you in /media/sda204:25
mo0sebut vaguely..04:25
mo0seheh..04:25
mo0seyeah.04:25
steveklok, do you see anything if you type "ls"?04:25
mo0seyeah...04:25
mo0seall the stuff from my windows partition.04:25
steveklok04:25
mo0selike... windows, documents and settings, etc.04:25
__mikemits mounted, we know that04:25
steveklnow do you need help finding and copying what you need?04:26
mo0seyup.04:26
mo0sei can't do it from konqueror at all?04:26
steveklmo0se: well you can, i'm just showing you how to do it from the console04:26
__mikemfor this sort of thing its easier to deal with the console than with the gui in my oppinion04:26
mo0seokay. i'll look up on how to do it.04:26
steveklI agree04:26
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mo0sei saw it somewhere... but that was a long time ago.04:27
steveklWell we can help if you want04:27
mo0seit had like... examples with zoo animals and stuff.04:27
mo0seheheh.04:27
__mikemjust do mv filename newfilename04:27
stevekljust change directory to whatever "cd blah/blah/"04:27
steveklwell he'll need to use cp04:27
steveklmv won't work04:27
steveklOr it will work but it may give him an error I think04:28
__mikemoh, yeh, forgot, the partition is write protected04:28
mo0seoh wait... how do i get access to a folder that has spaces?04:28
getafixhow do i run nvidia settings?04:28
__mikemput a \ before the space04:28
steveklmo0se: well, you can tab complete, do you know what that is?04:28
mo0senope./04:28
getafixman you guys must love us newbies04:28
getafixhaha04:28
mo0se:P04:28
steveklwell04:28
__mikemlike for instance, Program\ Files04:28
mo0seokay. i'll try.04:29
mo0sethanks mike.04:29
__mikemyw04:29
steveklmo0se: if you have a file called "rabbit" and you type out "ra" and hit tab, it should complete out to 'rabbit' for you04:29
mo0sels04:29
mo0sewoops.04:29
steveklmo0se: so try typing the first few letters of the directory that has spaces in it and press tab04:29
__mikemyou got to love bash04:29
mo0secool.04:29
steveklI gotta brb04:29
__mikemhb04:30
__mikemso, once you find the file, just do cp filename ~filename which should plop the file in your homedirrectory04:30
mo0sei do it and it doesn't do anything.04:30
__mikem~/filename rather04:30
mo0sethat tab enter thingie.04:30
__mikemyou don't need to use it04:31
__mikemwhat folder are you trying to get into04:31
__mikemwhats the name04:31
mo0sei just wanna try it 'cause it seems faster.04:31
mo0seheheh.04:31
mo0seCitizen Cope04:32
mo0seis the folder.04:32
__mikemcd Citizen\ Cope04:32
mo0seyeah. that's been working.04:32
mo0sei feel cool now...04:32
mo0semoohaha...04:32
__mikemlol04:32
__mikemgo with what works, learn how to use special shell features later04:32
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mo0seokay... so i see the files...04:33
mo0seand i do cp "filename"04:33
mo0seright?04:33
__mikemum, no04:33
mo0seoh.04:33
__mikemgive me the name of a file you want to move04:33
mo0se05 - Mistaken I.D.mp304:33
mo0semaybe i shoulda given you a shorter name.04:34
mo0sehahaha.04:34
__mikemok, cp "05 - Mistaken I.D.mp3" "~/05 - Mistaken I.D.mp3"04:34
__mikemshould move the file into your home dirrectory04:35
__mikemjust give that a try04:35
mo0sewhat does ~/ mean?04:35
__mikem~ means your current home dirrectory04:35
__mikemits just shorthand, so you don't have to type /home/username/04:35
__mikemjust for the record, I have only been using linux for a few months, and I am still learning myself, just take it easy, learn not to be intimidated by the shell04:36
mo0sebrb.04:37
__mikemhb04:37
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mo0sewhat's hb?04:40
__mikemhurry back04:40
mo0seoh.04:40
mrphonk:)04:40
mo0sehaha.04:40
__mikemlol04:40
mo0seokay..04:40
mo0sei just kinda like...04:40
mo0segot myself back to some folder i don't know...04:41
mo0seis there a way to like... get to a folder really fast?04:41
mrphonktype the foldername fast :D04:41
mo0sedanggggg.04:41
__mikemnope, sorry, Ive done it myself, hate it when that happens, but I don't hknow of any quick fix04:41
mo0sexP04:41
__mikemlol @ mrphonk04:41
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mo0secan i copy a whole folder?04:42
__mikemum, let me try copying a directory here, just to see04:42
mo0seit says omitting directory... fudge...04:43
krenx!nvidia04:44
ubotuI guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:44
mrphonkto copy the whole dir do cp -r dirname newplace04:45
mo0seno quotes?04:45
mrphonkfor example... cp -r music downloads/music04:45
__mikemthe quotes are an alternative notation to the \ notation I showed you04:45
mo0seah...04:46
mrphonkto move the entire dir you use mv dirname newplace04:46
mo0seson of a hoe.04:46
mrphonk?04:47
mo0sei got it to copy... i think...04:47
__mikemwhat happened?04:47
robotgeek!language04:47
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.04:47
mo0senow i don't have permission.04:47
mrphonkchmod04:47
__mikemcp -fr might also work04:47
mo0sewhat does -r do?04:47
__mikemr means recursive,04:47
mrphonktype "man cp" for the manual of the cp-command.04:48
mo0seokay.04:48
__mikemif he has permission problems, he might be able to use cp -fr filename newplace04:48
__mikemmrphonk right04:48
mrphonkMaybe, but afaik it will only help him if he needs to force it (e.g. the file is in use and shouldn't be copied)04:49
mo0sei don't get why i don't have permission./04:49
__mikemoh, true04:49
__mikemare you root right now04:50
__mikem?04:50
mo0sei thought i was...04:50
__mikemdoes the prompt end in a # or a $04:50
mrphonkmo0se: did you do "sudo cp -r" ?04:50
mo0se#04:50
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__mikemok, so you are root04:50
VRWarperdepends04:50
mo0senope.04:50
VRWarperoops04:50
mo0sei did cp.04:50
mrphonkok, but if you are root it shouldn't matter.04:50
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__mikemstrange04:51
mo0sei'm root in the konsole.04:51
mo0sebut not in konqueror??04:51
VRWarperright04:51
mo0seis that possible?04:51
VRWarperyes04:51
VRWarperits expected04:51
__mikemI don't think it matters04:51
mrphonkdo "gksudo konqueror" ?04:51
mo0sehmm..04:51
mo0selemme see if i can execute the files in the folder..04:51
robotgeekkdesu konqueror04:51
mrphonksorry...04:52
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mrphonkit's late here =)04:52
__mikemsame here, but I just don't feel like turning in yet04:52
mo0sewhat does kdesu konqueror doo?04:52
mrphonkme neither... but actually it's 04:52 am04:52
__mikemhope you don't have work04:52
robotgeekmo0se: gives you a konqueror with root privleges, be very careful04:53
mo0seoh cool...04:53
__mikemThis is why I only use the terminal for this sort of thing04:53
mo0sewhy do i have to be careful?04:53
VRWarperyou can destroy your install04:53
__mikembecause while you are root, one slip of the mouse could trash your instalation04:53
VRWarper:)04:53
mrphonkNo, i'm free this week.04:53
__mikemlucky you04:53
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mrphonkYeah. I let my girlfriend work instead :)04:54
mrphonkI'm taking care of the computers...04:54
mo0sethat kdesu doesn't work with amarok...04:54
mo0seheh...04:54
__mikemlol thats not nice04:54
VRWarperwhy do you need to run amarok in root?04:54
mo0sei have no idea.04:54
mo0sehahaha.04:54
mrphonklol04:54
mo0sei tried to play the mp3 files.04:54
mo0seand they won't play..04:54
mo0seso i thought maybe i didn't have permission to play them?04:55
mo0semeh?04:55
__mikemif you go to the run window, you can use a regular su command to launch gui apps as root04:55
VRWarperthe first user has permission to audio04:55
mo0seit says some media could not be loaded at the bottom of amarok.04:55
mrphonk__mikem: can u play any mp3-files at all?04:55
VRWarperdo you know what a media is?04:55
__mikemyes, but you need a special plug in to do so04:55
mo0seuhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........04:55
__mikem!mp304:55
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped04:55
ubotuwell, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:55
mo0sewah...04:56
mrphonkthere were the link i was looking for.04:56
mo0sei thought the multiverse was like...04:57
mo0se...04:57
mo0sehahaha...04:57
mo0senevermind..04:57
mrphonk__mikem: So the next time you'll be ripping a CD, remember to use .ogg instead. For everyones best :)04:57
mo0sewoo... crazy...04:57
mo0secan you use .ogg in an ipood?04:57
__mikemlol, no, I rather use mp304:57
steveklyeah .mp3, like everything in life, is owned by Ted Turner04:57
steveklwait, what?04:57
VRWarpermrphonk: unfortunately ipods cant play ogg vorbis04:57
__mikemI don't have an IPOD04:57
__mikemipods suck04:57
mo0sehahaha...04:57
mo0sei like my ipod...04:58
robotgeek!kofftopic04:58
ubotusomebody said kofftopic was Non Kubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #kubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!04:58
mrphonk__mikem: why do you prefeer mp3?04:58
VRWarperwell its not just ipods,, its much easier to get mp3 support than ogg04:58
mo0sedoodeedoo..04:58
steveklSeriously, who owns the mp3 format?04:58
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VRWarperthere are a few companies, like iriver, that "support" ogg04:58
robotgeekstevekl: fraunhoffer insitute04:58
__mikembecause they are guarinteed to play on most portable media players, as apposed to ogg04:58
steveklfranwho whatstithuh04:58
mrphonkstevekl: I wish i did... and then i would get one cent for everytime someone played a mp3-file.04:58
mrphonk__mikem: Then buy a portable media player that supports ogg? We have the power to change! (i say that with the voice of a big politician or something...)04:59
mo0seit says the package is unavailable...04:59
__mikemlol, I like my Muvo2 quite fine thankyou04:59
mrphonkmo0se: wich package?05:00
VRWarperbut what if you already have a media player?05:00
mo0segstreamer0.8 or something?05:00
__mikemmrphonk kindly walk moose through modifying his sources.list file for me, I am too tired05:00
__mikemlol05:00
mo0seit says to type in "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"05:00
mo0seand i did..05:00
mo0seand it was it's missing, obsolete, or avalable from another source.05:00
VRWarperdo05:01
VRWarperapt-cache search gstreamer05:01
robotgeekmo0se: are you on breezy?05:01
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mo0seyeah.05:01
mo0sebreeeeezy kubuntu.05:01
robotgeekmo0se: you need to enable multiverse repository.05:01
robotgeek!repos05:01
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource05:01
robotgeekmo0se: check the first link in above ^^05:02
mrphonkgreat, i just love that bot! i don't have to do anything! :D05:02
__mikemhes cool05:02
mo0seoh. i found a perfect one.05:02
mo0seamarok-gstreamer.05:02
mo0sehow do i get that one?05:02
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mrphonkMaybee i'll buy him a beer sometime.05:02
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__mikemum, mo0se, install the package indicated on the site05:02
robotgeekmrphonk: you can buy the bots owner beer05:02
robotgeekubotu: who owns you?05:02
ubotucafuego05:02
__mikem!lart mrphonk05:03
mrphonkubotu: does your owner like beer?05:03
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mrphonk05:03
mrphonk:(05:03
__mikem!lart mrphonk05:03
robotgeek__mikem: we don't do that in here anymore05:03
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__mikemthey disabled that feature05:03
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Parkotron2What DID !lart do?05:04
__mikemwhen I turn 21 I am going to be a beer belly05:04
__mikemcaused ubotu to attack the indicated name05:04
mrphonkmo0se: It's this easy: Edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list (do this as root...) uncomment (delete the "#") from every line that starts with "deb".05:04
robotgeekParkotron2: it's disabled as that would be too much fun for this channel :)05:05
Hobbseeoh, again?05:05
__mikemlol killjoy05:05
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mrphonkwhat would "!lart" do?05:05
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__mikemmy personal favorite is, !lart name, ubotu resizes name's terminal to 40x4005:06
mrphonk__mikem: Here in Sweden you only have to be 20 to get that beer belly :D05:06
getafixwhats a good mp3 player other than amarok?05:06
Parkotron2That's good to know. The world has enough killer robots already.05:06
getafixamarok seems to be crashing a lot05:06
mrphonki use xmms...05:06
getafixsweet05:06
__mikemoh, I heard the sun rarely goes down in sweeden, is that true05:06
mrphonkbut that's just because i'm used to Winamp i guess.05:06
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getafixyeah i'd like to use amarok but it keeps crashing on me05:07
mrphonk__mikem: No. Actually, in the winter we nearly never see the sun :D05:07
__mikembummer05:07
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mrphonkBut in the summer, and if you are in the northern part of Sweden, the sun wont go down for about three weeks. Preety neat.05:07
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__mikemmy dad was there once05:07
__mikemon a business trip05:08
mrphonkmo0se: You didn't give up, did you?05:08
mo0seuhm...05:08
mo0sei'm kind of confused...05:08
mrphonklol05:08
__mikemlike I gave up trying to power on my overheated presario 90005:08
mrphonk__mikem: Do you know where in Sweden?05:08
mo0sehahaha...05:08
__mikemnope, it was years ago05:08
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mo0sei enabled the main restricted universe multiverse and its source...05:08
__mikemit was in the arctic circle, i know that05:09
mo0senow i don't know what to do..05:09
mrphonk__mikem: Arctic circle? Ohh.. thats way up north :D05:09
__mikemnear it atleast anyway05:09
mrphonkmo0se: Now get the packages you needed05:09
mrfishhatin adept click fetch sources05:09
__mikembrb05:09
mrfishhatupdates*05:09
mrphonk"sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad"05:10
mo0sethe tutorial tells me to do some other funky stuff...05:10
mo0sei don't need to?05:10
mrphonkI understand that this is confusing when we're all telling you to do different things :D05:10
mo0seeeeyup...05:10
getafixwhat does gst- engine "claims it cannot play mp3s mean when i open amarok?05:10
mrphonkmo0se: do "sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad"05:10
__mikemdon't forget apt-get update05:11
mrphonksorry that's right05:11
gyratecan someone point me to a howto on getting kde 3.5.2 installed?05:11
mrphonkfirst "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad"05:11
bimberi!kde3.505:11
ubotuTo upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".05:11
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gyrateie: what repo i need to add05:11
gyrateah, thats what i was looking for05:11
bimberigyrate: ^^^^^^05:11
krenxcould anyone help me installing nvidia drivers? i get this "dont have precompiled kernel" blabla :)05:11
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gyrateubotu: thanks05:11
ubotugyrate: no problem05:11
mrphonk!howtobecomefilthyrich05:11
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mrphonk05:11
__mikemubotu good bot05:12
ubotu:)05:12
mrphonk:D05:12
__mikemwe should feed him botsnacks05:12
mrphonkmo0se: How's it going? I'm kind'a nervous for you :)05:12
mrphonkubotu, do you like snacks?05:12
ubotumrphonk: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:12
mrphonk:D05:13
__mikemlol05:13
__mikemnice try05:13
mrphonkHe's just as intelligent as my girlfriend. Lovely...05:13
mrphonkor wait...05:13
__mikemlol beautiful05:13
mrphonkubotu, are you a boy or a girl?05:13
ubotumrphonk: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:13
mo0sehavin' a little trouble...05:13
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Parkotron2krenx: That warning is normal. Just continue throught it.05:13
robotgeek!botabuse05:13
ubotuYou can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.05:13
getafixhey robot geek can you help me out with amarok?05:13
robotgeekgetafix: what issue are you having?05:14
mo0sehmm... it still says not available...05:14
__mikemmrphonk they take bot abuse seriously in here05:14
__mikemso be careful05:14
getafixany idea why its not creating a library05:14
mo0sebut i tried another version...05:14
mo0seand it worked...05:14
getafixlike i've selected hte folders i want it to scan05:14
mo0sebut it said that was the same one i already have..05:14
mo0seargh..05:14
mrphonk__mikem: i can see that. i guess i'll have to play with myself instead... ehh.05:14
getafixbut it just sits at zero percent in the activity bar at the bottom05:14
mo0sescary...05:14
__mikempoor choice of words05:14
mo0sehahahah.05:14
robotgeekgetafix: most probably you don't have codecs for amarok, can you play those songs?05:14
mrphonk__mikem: hehe, that was the whole point05:14
__mikemlol ;->05:15
krenxParkotron2: im trying, but tey wont install05:15
Parkotron2krenx: What the last error you get?05:15
mrphonkOkey that my english isn't fluent but i'm not THAT stupid :D05:15
getafixare hte codecs just  under 'amarok" in adept?05:15
getafixor can you direct me to the mp3 codecs i need?05:15
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robotgeekgetafix, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:15
__mikemI never would have guessed english was your second language05:15
mo0sei get a poopy error in amarok that says some media could not be loaded (not playable).05:15
mo0secuuuuuurrrrrrrssssssssseeeeeeeesssssssssss...05:16
robotgeekmo0se: wma? or mp3?05:16
mo0semp3.05:16
getafixawesome cheers man05:16
mrphonk__mikem: Thanks... it's actually my third language.05:16
__mikemouch05:16
krenxParkotron2: cant remember, ill try to install again and tell you05:17
mrphonk1. Swedish 2. Finnish 3. English05:17
krenxin a while05:17
krenxreading some here.05:17
mo0sein adept it says amarok-gstreamer is already installed.05:17
Parkotron2krenx: I recommend this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7507405:17
__mikemmo0se, that thing really doesn't like you, Id recomend having someone over there assist you on your end05:17
krenx1. Swedish 2. English 3. Danska (skaning, surprise;)05:17
mo0sethe website i went to told me to install gstreamer0.8-mad05:17
mo0sebut i don't see it...05:17
mo0sethat tutorial is outdated.05:18
mo0seboo...05:18
mo0se:P05:18
robotgeekmo0se: i'll help you thru it, give me a moment05:18
__mikemno, not really05:18
mo0sewell... it tells you to download something that doesn't exist...05:18
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mrphonkkrenx: That means your swedish is danish too =)05:18
__mikemI have to admit, geting the hang of that sort of thing was hard for me to, because comming from a windows world, the concept of "packages" was foreign to me05:18
robotgeekmo0se: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin (not here, pastebin. see topic)05:18
__mikempastebin? Poor horses. LOL jk05:19
krenxLol05:19
mo0sepastebin...05:19
__mikem!pastebin05:19
ubotupastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126905:19
krenxrullebor05:19
mrphonk__mikem: same here... took about a month before it made any sense at all...05:20
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__mikemTHe key is just to forget everything you know and take everything for face value, from what I learned05:20
mo0seokay.05:20
mo0seit's posted.05:20
mo0sedo i send you the link?05:20
mrphonk__mikem: But it's hard when you grew up with dos and windows. I mean, i've even worked at Microsoft just a year ago =] 05:21
mo0sehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1301105:21
__mikemyup, I did win32 programming for a hobby so, I really had windows engrained in my mind05:21
Parkotron2mo0se: All of your repositories are commented out!05:22
mo0sei enabled them in adept...05:23
mrphonkI was a salesman @ microsoft. Selling Office-package to companies for example, even though i didn't even use it @ home (i've always like OpenOffice more, even when i was a windowsdude...)05:23
__mikemonce, I had to do a book report, where we created a test on the book we read, I made my test a simple piece of software writen against the win32 api which presented the test,05:23
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mo0sedo i just uncomment all of them or something?05:23
__mikemOpenOffice does more for crying out loud, my favorite is export to pdf05:23
__mikemyup05:23
__mikemall lines that begin with deb05:23
getafixhow do you enable multiverse and universe repositories05:24
mrphonkuncommenting means that you delete the "#", fyi.05:24
getafixi've installed hte gstreamer05:24
mo0senot the "# "05:24
mo0senotice the space...05:24
mo0se??05:24
mo0seor does it not matter?05:24
mo0sehehehe...05:24
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__mikembe careful not to uncomment the description lines though05:24
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__mikem!easysource05:25
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:25
mo0seokay..05:25
robotgeekubotu: tell getafix about repos05:25
mo0seeverything is uncommented..05:25
mo0sewell... every deb thingie.05:25
__mikemlet me see the file05:25
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__mikemanotherwords pastebin it to me05:25
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getafixsweet cheers robo05:25
robotgeekgetafix: first link, there is an adept howto in there05:25
mo0sedone.05:25
__mikemlink please05:26
mo0sehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1301305:26
mo0senow i do apt-get update right?05:26
getafixi've done this05:26
getafixsudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad05:26
getafixis that all i need to do?05:26
__mikemok, that looks good to me05:26
mo0sedid you enable yo repositories?05:26
__mikemsudo apt-get update05:26
Seantaterhow do I use lm-sensors?05:26
robotgeekgetafix: that should be find if you are using the gstreamer engine (or you can install amarok-xine) engine05:27
SeantaterAre there any odd steps or anything?05:27
mo0sejesus!05:27
__mikema lot of packages05:27
__mikemdon't worry05:27
mo0secould not get lock var/lib/dpkg/lock blah blah blah...05:27
Parkotron2Seantater: have you installed it already?05:27
mo0seno packages for me...05:27
mrphonkdo you see jesus now? that's cool. i always knew he was a kubuntu-user.05:27
__mikemdid you sudo it05:27
mo0seyup.05:27
Seantatermo)se: yes, lm-sensors is installed05:28
getafixi have hte xine engine installed i think as well via adept05:28
mo0seand i'm in root as well.05:28
Seantatermo0se: yes, lm-sensors is installed05:28
Parkotron2mo0se: You probably have Adept open.05:28
__mikemdo me a favor, type exit in the console05:28
mo0seoh yeah...05:28
mo0sei do...05:28
mo0sehahahaa...05:28
Seantatermo0se: sensors returns "No sensors found!"05:28
__mikemtrust me05:28
mo0sewoooot.05:28
mo0seit's done...05:28
krenxParkotron2: thanks, ive installed them now05:28
Parkotron2Seantater: Then run "sensors" in a console.05:28
__mikemok05:28
krenxnow lets see if they work, brb05:28
robotgeekgetafix: just select it in amarok, and you should be able to play it05:28
__mikemnow try the command again sudo apt-get update05:28
mo0seit's done.05:29
__mikemand what was the output05:29
SeantaterParkotron2: I have, it returns "No sensors found!", yet I know there are05:29
mo0sedone.05:29
mo0sei'm serious... gstreamer0.8-mad doesn't exist...05:29
mo0seit keeps telling me that...05:29
mo0seit says... but it is referred to by another package.05:30
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Parkotron2Seantater: Sorry, I forgot there was more than that to setting it up. I used this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=lm-sensors05:30
mo0sei just wanna play my music!05:30
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mrphonkmo0se: This really isn't your day :D05:30
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krenx/whois mrphonk05:30
__mikemrobotgeek mo0se appears to be doing everything properly yet is unable to get the gstreamer package, his sources.list file is correct and everything, would you mind checking this out05:30
krenxmrphonk: where in sweden are    you from ?05:31
mrphonkkrenx: Estocolmo05:31
mo0seit might be because i have to have a root enabled konqueror to access it...05:31
mo0sei can't access it normally..05:31
mo0seso maybe i can't access it from amarok...05:31
robotgeekmo0se: open up terminal05:31
krenxmrphonk: Ah, a fiskmas05:31
mo0seso the question is... how do i access it from amarok?05:31
mo0seokay.05:31
__mikemhe has it open05:31
__mikemor he should05:31
mo0seit's open.05:32
Search4Lancer*sigh* i just downloaded a zip file of powerpoints that I need to study for a class in the morning, and I right clicked on the file (on the desktop) to extract it, and the damn desktop froze up....05:32
mrphonkkrenx: never heard that expression before, usually we're just called patrask05:32
robotgeekmo0se: you don't have the multiverse repository next ti universe on that line05:32
__mikemSearch4Lancer that shouldn't happen05:32
krenxIn skane we call you fiskmasar because u are everywhere and skrapar ner05:32
mo0sewhat line?05:32
__mikembut its prety safe to assume the presentation files are corupted now05:32
mo0seooo... you sneaky little line..05:32
krenxnice swenglish. :P05:32
robotgeekmo0se: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13014 use that05:33
mrphonkkrenx: Better to skrapa ner than to be skrap.05:33
krenxlol05:33
krenx;)05:33
__mikem???05:33
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mrphonk__mikem: We are talking Swenglish, that's my fourth language.05:34
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mo0sewait...05:34
Parkotron2I can't help but wonder if the Scandinavians are having a laugh at our expense.05:34
Search4Lancer__mikem, of course it shouldn't happen. I don't see why the files in the zip would be corrupted, though. Just.. not extracted.05:34
mo0sewhen i try to save it...05:34
mo0seit says i don't have permission...05:34
__mikemyou have to become root05:34
mo0sei am root.05:35
mo0sein the terminal...05:35
krenxwhat program are u using05:35
__mikemI am too tired to deal with this05:35
mo0seuhm...05:35
mo0sekate.05:35
mrphonkParkotron2: No, we're just having a small town vs. town-beef. You know, i'm from the royal capital and krenx is from the part of Sweden that God forgot.05:35
__mikemtry sudo kate in the terminal05:35
robotgeekmo0se: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"05:35
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getafix#/dev/hdc {05:36
getafix#         dma = on05:36
getafix#}05:36
getafixi can add that to permantlky enable dma on the drive is that right?05:36
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robotgeekgetafix: yes.05:36
getafixto the hdparm.conf?05:36
getafixsweet05:36
robotgeek!dma05:36
robotgeekgetafix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA05:37
getafixnow we're getting somewhere05:37
Search4Lancergrrr I can't get it to, well, unfreeze. all the icons on the desktop are gone, and all I have is a finger on the desktop05:37
getafixyeh i just looked at that and have done that05:37
robotgeekgetafix: heh, cool05:37
robotgeekmo0se: are you sorted out?05:37
getafixcheers man05:37
mo0seno.05:37
mo0sethat sudo kate thingie deosn't work.05:37
Parkotron2Search4Lancer: Are you typing on another computer?05:37
mo0seit says it probably crashed.05:38
mo0seO.o05:38
robotgeekmo0se: kk, never mind. open up a terminal :)05:38
mo0seokay.05:38
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mo0sedone.05:38
Search4Lancerno05:38
Search4LancerParkottron205:38
getafixhmmm still amarok seems to be stuck on scanning my folders for mp3s and not doing anything05:38
robotgeekmo0se: then type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"05:38
Parkotron2Search4Lancer: So just the desktop died?05:38
Search4Lancerappears that way yes05:38
mo0sewoaaaaaaah...05:39
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Search4Lancerwell, and the IM icon disappeared...05:39
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Parkotron2Search4Lancer: Very strange. Have you tried restarting the kicker?05:39
Search4LancerKopete, that is05:39
__mikemthe glory of text mode aye mo0se05:39
Search4Lancerthe who what?05:39
mo0sehehehe.05:39
robotgeekSearch4Lancer: alt + f2 , kwin <enter>05:39
Parkotron2Search4Lancer: I'll take that as a "no".05:39
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getafixis hdc definietly my cd rom and not one of my hdds?05:40
robotgeekmo0se: now find the line with universe in it, and add multiverse right next to it05:40
getafixcause its still stuttering on the cd05:40
mo0seokay.05:40
Parkotron2Search4Lancer: I'd say it be best just to log out and log back in.05:41
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mo0sehow do i delete those #'s?05:41
__mikemI kind of have to go, so good luck mo0se, hope things work out, and tell the other guy it was nice talking05:41
robotgeekmo0se: backspace?05:41
mo0seoh...05:41
mo0seahhaah..05:41
Parkotron2That has to be one of the most interesting question and answers I've ever seen on here. "backspace?" - hilarious.05:42
mo0seheh...05:42
mo0senow i close it?05:42
mo0sewait...05:42
robotgeekmo0se: ctrl +x05:42
mo0sehow do i save it..05:42
getafixhey robo how can i tell if my cdrom is in fact hdc?05:42
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getafixcause i have a feeling hdc is one of my partitions from the hdd05:43
getafixahh hard drive05:43
robotgeekgetafix: ls -al /dev/cdrom05:43
Parkotron2getafix: eject /dev/hdc05:43
mrphonkSpacebar? Where is the any-key?05:43
getafixwhy would i want to eject it?05:43
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Parkotron2getafix: If you eject /dev/hdc and the cd tray opens, you'd know you've got the right drive.05:44
getafixis command not found05:44
robotgeekgetafix: did it tell you what device it is?05:44
Search4Lancerwell things just got a lot worse when I tried to open up the run window05:44
getafixbut if its a hard drive it will un mount or just say i can't do it05:44
Search4Lancerhad to do a hard reboot, and 8 instances of SpeedCrunch opened05:45
Parkotron2Search4Lancer: That's a crazy tale you've got there. Hopefully, it was a fluke and the restart will set things straight.05:45
getafixnah robo it said it couldn't find hte command "Is05:45
robotgeekgetafix: ls (LS)05:46
Search4Lancerfor fuck sake I just right clicked on the zip again and it did it again.....05:46
getafixahhhhhh05:46
getafixyup thats the cdrom05:46
mo0seSWEET SUCCESS!!!05:46
robotgeekSearch4Lancer: language, and please be patient05:46
getafixhmm i wonder why it still stutters on cd playback05:46
Parkotron2Search4Lancer: I'd say you may have faulty zip. Try extracting it from the command line.05:46
mrphonkmo0se: See... Gnu/Linux is easy :D05:46
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mo0seyeah baby...05:47
mo0semoooohahaha...05:47
mo0seafter i get these mp3's working... i'm gonna go bed...05:48
mo0sehahaha..05:48
mrphonkmo0se: Now you can add "Kubuntu-Guru" to your business card.05:48
getafixgrrr05:48
mo0sei am planning on majoring in computer science for college...05:48
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mo0semaybe.05:48
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mo0se:P05:48
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mrphonkOkey. I have no idea how your school system works, but it sure sounds cool.05:49
mo0sehaha.05:49
mo0seit's college...05:49
mo0seO.o05:49
getafixalsa device is already in use05:49
getafixthis is sooo frustrating05:49
Seantatermy cpu sensors say my CPU is running at 261F.. Is that good?05:49
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mo0sewhat's wrong gaf?05:50
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mo0se... i just shortened your name...05:50
Search4Lancer8 SpeedCrunches opened again on startup...05:50
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Parkotron2Seantater: That depends. Do you want to boil water?05:51
getafixok so i can mp3s via playlist/ add media05:51
getafixbut the build collection won't work05:51
mo0seare you serious?05:51
getafixany idea why05:52
mo0sei can't...05:52
SeantaterParkotron2: no .. I take it that's not good...05:52
Parkotron2Seantater: I would say the problems with the sensor, not the chip.05:52
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SeantaterParkotron2: but my BIOS should be monitoring my CPU temp, and adjusting my fan accordingly -- my fan is on a very low speed..05:53
Search4Lancermy fan kept running after I shut down both times....05:53
SeantaterParkotron2: On top of that, every single one of my sensors are in "alarm" mode, each WAY WAY off..05:53
Parkotron2Seantater: Can you monitor your sensors while in BIOS?05:54
krenxanyone know where i get the latest libwine for all architectures ?05:54
SeantaterI do nkt think so..05:54
Seantaters/nkt/not05:54
getafixwhy in gods name won't this piece of crap play music for me grrrrr05:54
Parkotron2Seantater: Check the next time you shutdown/reboot. A lot of BIOSes nowadays let you monitor things directly.05:55
SeantaterParkotron: do you think it has anything to do woth F@H? Perhaps I should turn it off and see what happens05:55
SeantaterParkotron2: Okay -- I'll try that..05:55
Parkotron2Seantater: Folding at home could be the culprit, but I doubt it.05:56
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mo0sehow do i make a folder not locked from non-root users?05:57
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Parkotron2Seantater: Do you have any reason to believe that your chip is actually over heating, other than lm-sensors?05:57
Parkotron2mo0se: What folder and why?05:57
mo0semy music folder.05:58
mo0sebecause i can't seem to play it in amarok.05:58
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mo0sei have gstreamer0.8-mad and everything.05:58
mo0sebut it still won't let me play my mp3 file.05:58
mo0sethe folder is locked and that might be why...05:58
mo0sethere has to be a way to unlock a folder, right?05:59
robotgeekmo0se: is this over a network?05:59
mo0seno.05:59
mo0sethe file is on my kubuntu partition.05:59
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mo0sei moved it from another partition and it was locked.05:59
robotgeekmo0se: okay, right click and change the properties05:59
getafixhey robo i'm getting stuttering playing mp3s as well06:00
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getafixand idea ?06:00
robotgeekgetafix: what engine are you using (try the other)06:01
mo0seYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!06:01
mo0seokay!06:01
mo0sei'm gonna crash now.06:01
mo0sehahaha.06:01
mo0selater guys.06:01
mo0sedon't worry... i'll be back soon...06:01
robotgeekmo0se: night06:01
mo0se:P06:01
getafixusing gstream06:01
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getafixand xine doesn't produce any sound at all06:01
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robotgeekgetafix: hmm, momento06:01
SeantaterParkotron2: Nope -- the sensor is wrong -- My motherboard temp went down, the fan speed hit the floor, etc.. but the cpu's still at 261..06:01
Parkotron2mo0se: You sure are hard to discourage. Good night.06:01
Emessis ALSA setup properly?06:01
getafixnope now xine works perfectly06:02
getafixi'm not sure how do i set up alsa06:02
robotgeekgetafix: xine works?06:02
getafixyup06:02
getafixweird06:02
Parkotron2Seantater: I consider most motherboard sensors sketchy at best.06:02
getafixit wouldn't work before06:02
robotgeekgetafix: heh, well. it works :)06:03
getafixyeah true that06:03
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mrfishhatI was wondering if i could get some help with multiple monitrs?06:04
Emessi wish kubuntu would onstall like that, bvut iv only got 64mb ram int he box i want it on and its stingy on boxes like that06:04
Parkotron2mrfishhat: What's the issue?06:04
mrfishhat\msg parktron i got it all setup and working,just i cannot change resolutions06:05
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MEtaLpREshow do you change the default program for different file types? the file association06:05
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Parkotron2mrfishhat: Are you using xinerama, twinview, or the ATI one?06:06
robotgeekMEtaLpREs: right click -> open with,06:06
getafixrobo any idea how to get hte collection building feature actually working?06:06
robotgeekgetafix: i don't know why it isn't working, maybe try rescanning?06:06
Parkotron2mrfishhat: What can't you change resolutions with?06:06
MEtaLpREsyea ofcourse you can choose open with, how can you set the DEFAULT program though?06:07
getafixrobo: it just seems to not start scanning06:07
robotgeekMEtaLpREs: theere should be a 'Other' option06:07
mrfishhatparkotron: twinview06:07
MEtaLpREsok awesome, thanks06:08
getafixsay i got 60 gigs of mp3s would i be expecting it to take hours to scan it all or?06:08
Parkotron2MEtaLpREs: Konqueror | Settings | Configure Konqueror | File Associations06:08
mrfishhatparkotron2: twinview06:09
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Parkotron2mrfishhat: Could you post your xorg.conf in the pastebin?06:09
mrfishhatparkotron: how would i do that06:10
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dipnlikhi all. when i insert my SD card in my card reader, kde pops up a window with the folder contents. how can i stop this?06:11
dipnlikit is doing it because once i checked the option to not show the dialog again, but now i need to show the dialog06:11
mrfishhatparkotron:wait i have a plan06:11
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Parkotron2mrfishhat: Goto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , paste the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf and send me the link it gives you.06:13
Parkotron2dipnlik: What version of KDE?06:14
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getafixshould using this plus adept plus amarok be using 900 mbs or ram and constantly climbing?06:16
dipnlikParkotron2: 3.5, IIRC (this info is for my friend, i have 3.5 here)06:17
dipnlikParkotron2: i think he has 3.5 too06:17
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dipnlikParkotron2: oh no, he has 3.4.306:18
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Parkotron2Renze just replied to you inthe KDE thread.06:22
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dipnlikParkotron2: i saw there, thanks :)06:23
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ChrisNhi06:26
KratKartis there another way to increase the resolution other then in !fixres06:27
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ChrisNdoes anyone know if theres a list that has compatible ndiswrapper drivers?06:28
getafixis there a way to get my side buttons ie forward and backward working in firefox un kubuntu?06:31
yuriygeatafix: look around the forums and the wiki. there is a guide to getting logitech mice working. if you don't have a logitech i'm sure it's similar.06:33
yuriy*getafix: ^06:34
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ebastoshey guys, i have a question about the GTK configuration menu,06:50
ebastoswhen i go into system settings, appearances, then GTK Styles and Fonts, and i set the font size to something readable,06:51
ebastoslike 15 point or something06:52
ebastosit makes the fonts in firefox ginormously oversized06:52
ebastosi really only use two GTK apps, namely gaim and firefox, gaim's fonts turn out to be whatever size the styles&fonts dialog shows though, so i'm assuming that's not the problem06:52
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nsmdoes anyone here have problems with amarok?07:29
nsmi have version 1.3.107:29
nsmwhenever i launch it the cursor becomes busy and never turns non busy07:29
nsmand the window repainting for amarok stop07:29
nsmhow can I solve the problem?07:30
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cfraz89hi07:47
flash_hello07:48
flash_i'm running on an ubuntu box, and wanted to know if there was an easy way to install the kubunto packages (with apt-get or something)?07:49
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cfraz89yeah07:49
cfraz89apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:49
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flash_thanks :)07:50
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cfraz89np07:51
jonathan_ugh, I'll be glad when the stable dapper comes out07:52
jonathan_upgraded to beta 2 tonight and windows are so jerky07:52
cfraz89really?07:52
cfraz89i just upgraded too07:53
cfraz89although havent logged in or anything since upgade07:53
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jonathan_yeah, i can't stand it07:54
jonathan_so freaking jerky it's pathetic...at least for me anyways07:54
cfraz89hmm07:56
cfraz89im scared to restart kde now07:56
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xabyHello all .. i've got an AHA-7850 ( scsi card for an Epson scanner ) and with Ubuntu 6.06, trying to load the aic7xxx module only lead to an "Error inserting aic7xxx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-21-k7/kernel/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)".08:50
xabyLooking in dmesg shows this :08:51
xabyaic7xxx: Unknown symbol spi_populate_sync_msg08:51
xabyaic7xxx: Unknown symbol spi_populate_width_msg08:51
xabyaic7xxx: Unknown symbol spi_populate_ppr_msg08:51
xabyAny hint, anyone? lsmod shows a module named "scsi_transport_spi", that MAY contain my missing symbols ... i'm lost, and scannerless ...08:51
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pgaHello, after update of the kernel from 2.6.15-20 to 2.6.15-21 my wifi prism54 pcmcia card don't work anymore. Is there a solution ?08:53
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godzeroxaby: over my head. pga: would booting into the -20 kernel and filing a bug report work for you? That sounds like something too importaint top not file a bug on.08:59
godzeros/top/to08:59
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godzerothink all the devs are sleeping :)09:01
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xabygodzero: sure, as long as its a real bug, and not a bloody mistake of mine...09:02
godzerooh, you must have read some of my bug reports then... ;)09:03
pgaWith the -20 kernel i have this problem to, but I resolved it with a blacklist islsm_pci command.09:03
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tejinderwhats those lvm and evms daemons at startup. do i need them if i am a normal home user?09:05
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crimsunyou may09:05
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jitacrimsun: what exactly they do?09:05
crimsunjita: they're ways of arranging the storage space for easier configurability09:07
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jitathen i should keep them on thanks09:07
xabygodzero: hu ho, i responded in place of pga ( readed too fast )09:09
xabygodzero: the AHA7850 problem have already answered ? I could not find any hint by googling ...09:10
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pgagodzero & xaby: does I send somethig to help resolve this problem ?09:11
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jitaif i accidently deleted the entries from runlevel, how do i restore?09:15
xabypga: well, i cannot help ... sorry ...09:17
godzerosorry, I steped out for a sec09:18
godzeropga: have you filed a bug before?09:19
godzerojita: short answer: reinstalling the package should do it09:20
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jitagodzero: how do i list the installed packages of my system?09:21
pgagodzero: no because I m not easy with englich language ! ;-)09:23
godzeroIn synaptic, you can use the searce function, for command line.. there's a apt-cache command "apt-cache search <text here>"09:23
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godzeros/searce/search09:26
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godzeropga: https://launchpad.net/faq  <--- It's a quick read, devs are nice.09:30
pgagodzero: ok thank's I'll do my best ! ;-)09:32
godzeropga: aquick descriptin of what happend, plus they'll want /var/log/syslog & /var/log/syslog.009:33
godzerosee what happens when I type too fast09:33
godzeroI need a spell checker _right in_ the keyboard driver09:37
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GMullenis there a way to tell if apt-get has forzen in a Konsole?10:17
GMullenfrozen*10:17
godzeroGMullen: what's it doing? 0 cpu?10:21
GMullenno sorry it started running again10:22
GMullenit was just Setting UP vnc-common for a long time10:22
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lordtutuhy10:44
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lordtutuItt kezd vok pontosan mi is ez?10:45
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mindspin!hu10:48
ubotuHa magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu.hu10:48
lordtutuok thx10:48
ubijtsa2looks more turkish to me10:48
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mindspinbut it seemed to be magyar10:49
ubijtsa2does hungarian have  ?10:50
mindspini guess so like german has it too10:51
mindspinturkish has  a lot10:51
mindspinnot 10:52
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ubijtsa2oh well, I need to read up on that some day10:52
ubijtsa2:)10:52
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nico8481hi11:09
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Searwww.freepicssex.com11:19
J_luges:(11:21
J_lugesthats un-appropriate11:21
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thoreauputicwhat's the trouble?11:24
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robewaldhello11:31
robewaldI somehow messed up my fonts in X. The fonts for normal KDE applications are good but emacs and xvidtune and the like appear very blocky. It happens only on user, so where can I look?11:33
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painesrobewald: look if you have a .Xressources11:35
robewaldpaines: yes I have that11:36
painesrobewald: lookif there is something like Emacs.* in the   file11:38
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robewaldno but, there is *font:-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1511:40
robewaldI suppose that on is guilty?11:40
painescould be11:41
painesdid you play around with xfontsel11:41
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painesotherwise, if your are running dapper, you could install emacs-snapshot-gtk, which uses antialiased fonts. it is much more nicer11:42
robewaldpaines, not yet :-)11:42
painesmaybe they backported it meanwhile for breezy11:43
robewaldI'll log off and see if commenting this line helped11:43
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robewaldpaines: perfect, that was it :-)11:44
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painesrobewald: nice11:45
robewaldnow another problem: Kmail is always started when kopete starts. I don't want that, where do I turn that off?11:46
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painesrobewald: did you enabled any plugins inside koepete, ?11:55
Dr3asthe kubuntu-desktop package, it's not bad to remove that, i just want to get a few packages gone, and then kubuntu-desktop goes away also11:56
robewaldyes, kontact notes, statistics, connection state and history11:56
robewaldturned it all off, no change11:57
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saaidaMorning Everybody12:00
painesrobewald: well i thought kontact notes would do that. hmm12:01
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robewaldpaines: I thougt that too at first. I once had IRC enabled from kopete and I belive since then I have that problem. IRC is disabled now but kmail still starts...12:02
painesrobewald: there is a #kopete channel. they should know that12:03
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gixhi12:06
saaidacan some one guide me through creating a partition that is visible for both windows and Linux ( linux noob )12:06
thoreauputic!mountwindows12:09
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:09
HymnToLifesaaida> you mean read/write or read only ?12:09
gixubotu can tou help me?12:09
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gix12:09
HymnToLife!ubotu12:09
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gixlocale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory12:09
gixlocale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory12:09
gixlocale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory12:09
thoreauputicgix: ubotu is a bot :)12:09
gixops XD12:09
painesgix: dpkg-reconfiure locales12:10
thoreauputicgix: DO NOT paste here!12:10
gixsorry12:10
painesdpkg-reconfigure12:10
gixpaines i made it12:10
gixbut the problem12:10
gixno change12:10
paineshmm12:11
gixit send me this message Falling back to the standard locale ("C")12:11
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thoreauputic!enter12:18
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.12:18
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painesrobewald: did you try to delete ~.kde/share/config/kopeterc and reconfiguring it12:28
robewaldpaines: no I didn't. I is what I want to avoid.12:29
painesrobewald: i see12:30
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grandahi... who has reiserfs on / ?12:38
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cfraz89i do12:39
grandaevery time after a shutdown (poweroff) i get errormessages of reiserfsck ('wrong amount of used blocks' and 'the on-disc and correct bitmaps differ'). it never happens after a reboot12:40
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grandaand it never happend when i used suse on the same disc with reiserfs..12:41
cfraz89ewwww12:41
cfraz89so only happens on poweroff, but not reboot?12:41
grandacan you show your fstab line?12:41
cfraz89okie12:41
grandayes12:41
ubuntu..12:41
cfraz89proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       012:41
cfraz89/dev/hda6       /               reiserfs notail          0       112:41
cfraz89/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       012:41
cfraz89/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       012:41
cfraz89/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       012:41
grandammh12:42
granda /dev/sda2               /                   reiserfs    acl,user_xattr      0       112:42
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cfraz89your not using notail?12:43
HymnToLife!tell granda about pastebin12:43
grandano, these are the default options of my former suse installation..12:44
grandashould i?12:44
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lordtutuHello tudom mr mondtk hogy a magyarok mshova irjanak de ott kuka mindenki pedig nagy a gondom. Kubuntu 5.10 esem van 686-os kernelell s 1 asus k8n es lap ATI9200-asal.12:44
cfraz89well as far as i know it makes it faster12:45
lordtutuEz a nyvajs mirt mindig PCI nak hasznlja pedig 1* j volt12:45
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lordtutuMagyarok krlek segitsetek12:47
grandacan i still change it?12:47
grandaand ... could you paste the contents of /etc/init.d/halt as privmsg?12:48
lordtutuna ksznm12:50
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cfraz89ok12:58
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granda:) sorry ..01:00
cfraz89granda: did you get it all?01:00
cfraz89its ok01:00
cfraz89ill pastebin it01:00
grandathank you.. just got the first 10 lines01:01
cfraz89oh ok01:01
grandawhich kubuntu version are you using?01:01
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christopherhi01:06
christophersorry net dropped oyt01:06
christopherhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/68678101:06
christophergranda: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/68678101:07
grandawhich kubuntu version are you using?01:07
christopherdapper01:07
christophermost upgraded01:07
grandastrange.. it is totally different from mine although the mentioned version is the same01:09
christopherhmmm01:10
grandaok, just a bit different... can't find any reasons for this reiserfsck thing..01:12
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nsmHi there, I am having problems getting amarok 1.3.7 to run01:14
nsmwhen it starts it just displays the busy icon and i can't use it at all01:14
grandamaybe it's just: i first installed kubuntu on another harddisk (/dev/hda1) and then copied all of /dev/hda1 to /dev/sda2. and if i boot from /dev/sda, the reiserfsck is started on every bootprocess and complains about the two things (and checks the tree for half an hour)01:15
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munzirHi, I am using adept how can I see the changelog of a pacakge I want to upgrade?01:15
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christophergrada: that could be it01:16
granda:) i need to find the reason..01:17
christopherhave a look at /etc/init.d/rc5.d01:18
christopherand /etc/init.d/rc6.d01:18
christophersee if there is any difference01:18
grandado  mean /etc/rc0.d and /etc/rc6.d ?01:19
grandado you mean /etc/rc0.d and /etc/rc6.d ?01:19
grandathere is no difference except the S90halt and S90reboot links01:21
christopheroh ok01:21
christopheris there any difference in those files that could cause the reiser problem?01:21
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grandai did `for i in *; do cmp "$i" "/etc/rc6.d/$i"; echo $? $i; done` in rc0.d and vice versa01:22
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christopherok01:24
christopheryou know your bash well lol01:24
christopherruns through every file01:24
christopherand exchoes the differences in them?01:24
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grandabecause i do troubleshooting the whole day :/01:24
grandayes, the last part is superflous (echo $? $i). cmp prints out an error message if it finds a difference.01:25
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saaidawhat torrent client u guys recommend for kubuntu ?01:30
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cfraz89ktorrent01:30
saaidaim provious Bitcomet01:31
vendoris there a way to install chrony "cleanly"? it somewhat conflicts with ubuntu-base and ubuntu-minimal and removing those doesn't feel good...01:31
cfraz89i like ktorrent01:31
grandaazureus01:31
cfraz89ive been using it nonstop since i got kubuntu01:31
cfraz89azureus is a memory hog01:31
grandatrue01:32
cfraz89but ktorrent doesnt let you prioritize files in a download01:32
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cfraz89i like the inbuilt search though01:32
saaidadamn that is a kind of important feature01:32
cfraz89:)01:33
cfraz89are you using dapper?01:33
cfraz89it comes with ktorrent01:33
grandaazureus allows that too01:33
cfraz89does it?01:33
saaidawhat's dapper ?01:33
cfraz89version of (k)ubuntu that is about to come out01:33
granday, but just high / normal. but thats enough. i'd otherwise spent hours with prioritizing01:34
J_lugesmuch easier with the beta version of dapper01:34
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grandawhat01:36
J_lugesin dapper, www3.netbank.commbank.com.au wont work with my konqueror01:37
J_lugesis anyone else getting this problem? with the newest version of kubuntu01:37
cfraz89yeah it doesnt work for me01:38
J_lugeshmm k01:38
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israelhttp://israel.275mb.com/index3.php01:45
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cfraz89lol01:50
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_osh_I honestly don't understand a lot of the "bloated", "memoryhog" discussion. It's like focus is on the wrong things. Sure, try to keep things slim but bugfixes and features are more important. I need a tool. I don't care if it uses a little more memory or cpu then it has too, as long as it does what I need.01:56
cfraz89the thing is when i have azureus running my computer goes into swap alot01:58
cfraz89so i dont like it01:58
cfraz89i guess its ok if you have more ram01:58
_osh_cfraz89: I agree that thrashing isn't good and azureus doesn't do what you need. So you need a different tool. I understand that. And I just love the magnet-links. =)02:00
cfraz89magnets?02:01
_osh_cfraz89: magnet-link. azureus feature. download things without contact to the tracker. or something.02:02
cfraz89oh ok02:02
robotgeekthat will be coming soon to ktorrent, i think02:02
cfraz89cool02:02
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mhterresmorning02:08
_osh_mhterres: not to me. ;-)02:09
mhterreshehehe02:09
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mhterreshey _osh_. Where are  you ? I'm in Brazil02:13
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_osh_mhterres: northern europe.02:20
mhterreshmm, I see02:21
mhterresI'll travel to Europe some day in future02:21
mhterresI hope :-)02:22
mhterresIt's a dream of mine02:22
_osh_mhterres: sweet. we're going to south america too some day. we're saving money for it anyway. it's one of two continents that we haven't been to. the other being australia.02:22
mhterresnice :-)02:23
_osh_mhterres: and you're lucky. experts predict that south america is the next "asia" when it comes to economic growth. It's the most expansive region in the world in 10-20yrs.02:25
_osh_mhterres: I'm placing some of my money in companies there. =)02:25
mhterres_osh_: great :-)02:26
mhterres_osh_: Brazil is making many efforts in free software and open source02:26
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mhterres_osh_: our International Free Software Forum ended last week02:27
saaidaIs it norml . to have physical usage 230 mb from 256 , and the same time 13 mb out of 300 for swap ?02:28
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bsmhi, where do I set LANG in ubuntu?02:29
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saaidabsm : click Alt+F202:30
saaidathen right : kcontrol02:30
saaidau will see there a control panel like the one in Windows02:31
bsmin controlcenter everything is set fine02:31
bsmif it wasn't clear, I mean $LANG in xterm02:31
bsmis /etc/environment right?02:31
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saaida:)02:32
bsmsaaida: :)02:32
saaidaIs it norml . to have physical usage 230 mb from 256 , and the same time 13 mb out of 300 for swap ?02:34
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robotgeeksaaida: yes02:34
bsmsaaida: yes02:34
saaidathen what is the use of a swap partition ?02:35
bsmswap belongs to your memory02:36
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bsmsee it as a slow extension for your RAM02:36
mindspinit#s a kind of extended/spare memory on your HD02:36
mindspinlike "virtual memory" on win systems02:36
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bsmparts of your memory that are not used/needed but neccessaryly loaded are send to swap02:36
_osh_a swap partition isn't nessecary any longer is it? I think that the 2.6-kernel is equally fast with swap-files if I'm not misstaken.02:37
_osh_it's a good thing to have though. and I think most installs require it.02:38
saaidawell the problem is that i installed ubuntu without swap02:38
saaidaand now i added 300 mb partition for swap02:39
saaidai got 256 mb ram02:39
bsmso what?02:39
bsm256 is nothing today02:39
bsmrunning kde is a mess with 25602:39
saaidai think i missed up when i did the swap partition02:39
saaida/dev/hda3 /home/noname/swap swap noauto 0 002:41
saaidathis is the line in fstab02:41
_osh_saaida: have a look at 'man mkswap'. There's an example there on how to setup a swap-file. And again, if I recall correctly, there shouldn't be a performance impact if you run a 2.6-kernel.02:41
saaidaanyone knows if the line i pasted is any good ?02:43
_osh_saaida: shouln't the "noauto" be a "sw" for swap?02:46
saaida_osh_: have no idea :)02:47
_osh_saaida: I think so but have a look at the manfile (man mkswap). With the "noauto" you'll have to mount it manually to have a swap-file. But perhaps that's what you want?02:48
saaidawhere is the manfile(man mkswap) ?02:49
_osh_saaida: in konqeror write man: mkswap02:49
_osh_saaida: or in a console write man mkswap02:49
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_osh_saaida: sorry "konsole". It's either spell everything wwith a "k" or have a logo that looks like foot with a penis in it.02:50
_osh_saaida: I'm unregistered and can't pm.02:52
saaidaohh02:53
_osh_I'm in here once in a blue moon and can't be bothered with yet another password to remember. ;-)02:54
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WhyMIs it just me or Kmail doesn't handle quite well html messages (it doesn't show included remote images...)?03:04
_osh_WhyM: Isn't that a feature? It stops some of the most obvious "web bug" spy attacks. But I'm not sure. it might be a bug also. :-)03:08
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WhyMII understand but if I choose to display html messages and remote images, I should be able to see it... for instance eBay mails won't show any images...03:12
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_osh_WhyM: Ask the devels. I'm not one of them so I'm just guessing. ;-)03:20
cfraz89im pretty sure kmail shows images03:21
cfraz89but you have to tell it to for each message03:21
theineHi, since recently, kmail starts up automatically whenever I log into KDE, even if I make sure that it's not running anymore when I logged out my previous KDE session. I also didn't put kmail in ~/.kde/Autostart. Does anybody why it still starts up?03:22
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gamxxhi03:47
IgKhhi03:47
gamxxi have problem with Adept, look: http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4841/snapshot11lt.png03:48
mhterresand did you try to run apt-setup ?03:48
gamxxyes03:48
mhterresor better: what happened when you run apt-get update ?03:49
gamxxnot working03:49
mhterressudo apt-get update ?03:49
gamxxand sudo apt-setup too03:49
IgKhDid it ask you for your password?03:49
mhterrespaste here the error that happened when you try to run this commands03:50
gamxxyes03:50
gamxxgamxx@kubuntu:~$ sudo apt-setup03:50
gamxxsudo: apt-setup: command not found03:50
mhterrescommand not found ???03:50
gamxxhm, apt-get update working03:50
mhterresstrange, really strange03:50
mhterrespaste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list03:51
mhterresbut use pastebin.com03:51
gamxxok, moment03:51
IgKhSee this bug:03:52
IgKhhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ept/+bug/3808603:52
UbugtuMalone bug 38086 in ept adept "another process is using the packaging system database" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 03:52
gamxx(sorry about (?) my english ;P)03:52
IgKhgamxx: By the way, it is always good to search the Wiki and the bug system in launchpad.net before asking03:53
grandais someone using qt-designer?03:53
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justanotheruserguys, is there a known bug for webforms in konqueror?03:54
gamxxmhterres: http://pastebin.com/68698303:54
justanotheruserbecause i got myself almost 3-4 weeks with ADSL because of, probably, konqueror doesn't work right03:54
justanotheruser*without03:55
mhterreslooks correct to me03:55
mhterresdid you put the cdrom in your cd drive when try to run adept ?03:55
gamxxhm, yes03:55
mhterresHmmm, you can comment the cdrom line in sources.list03:56
mhterresand after that you can try to run adept again03:56
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gamxxhmm, mhterres, look now: http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1193/snapshot24ly.png04:01
justanotheruserguys, i am not joking here, konqueror doesn't input boxes right for some sort of reason04:02
mhterresplease, try to run04:02
mhterressudo apt-get update04:02
mhterressudo apt-get upgrade04:02
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gamxxokk04:02
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gamxxdowloading....04:05
mhterresgreat04:05
gamxx:D04:05
mhterresafter the upgrade, try to run adept again04:05
gamxxok, thx04:06
mhterresand if adept don't work anyway, you can always use apt-get update and apt-get upgrade04:06
mhterres:-)04:06
justanotheruseri can also see faulty handling with input boxes when i login on ktorrent.org/forum (in case someone wants to check this)04:09
justanotheruseraka, it doesn't let me login (although the site says i am)04:09
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mhterresnot want to begin a flame, but firefox in my opinion is much better that Konqueror04:10
ahmuck_jri recieved errors while attepting "04:10
ahmuck_jr"sudo apt-get install cacti"04:11
justanotherusererm, nobody thinks this a serious bug and should be solved for dapper?04:11
mhterresahmuck_jr: what errors ?04:11
justanotherusermhterres: yes, i do also, but this is a serious flaw (when doing business like a telco-hop with ADSL for example)04:12
ahmuck_jrafter using "sudo apt-get remove cacti" and then attempting to re-install the application i recieve a notation that cacti is already installed04:12
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mhterresahmuck_jr: did you try: dpkg --purge cacti ?04:12
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mhterresjustanotheruser: I understand04:13
ahmuck_jrmhterres: same thing, looks like uninstalled, but will not re-install04:14
justanotherusermhterres: as of now, this bug given me a lot of troubles with phonecalls and almost no internet at all. So my day is serious screwed. But we should solve this for others..04:14
mhterresapt-get --reinstall cacti ?04:15
mhterresjustanotheruser: I agree04:15
mhterresmaybe you can report a bug04:15
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justanotherusermhterres: i thought about that, but this bug only pops up after some weeks of using konqueror (dapper, but i've seen it on breezy too), so it will be a hard one...04:17
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mhterresmaybe you can report this in #kde channel04:18
justanotherusergood point04:18
justanotherusertrying...04:18
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WhyMAnyone using gotmail succesfully? (to retrieve hotmail messages)04:19
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RiddellWhyM: yes04:23
RiddellWhyM: but you need to download the latest one from their website, the one in ubuntu and debian is too old04:23
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WhyMRiddell: I know, I already did...04:24
WhyMHere is what I get after a gotmail -v : http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=68703604:26
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WhyMAny clue ?04:29
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ubuntuhey04:30
ubuntuhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=965610#post96561004:30
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ubuntucan anyone tell me what went wrong?04:31
ubuntuhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=965610#post96561004:31
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KhaotikHi all04:31
ubuntuhey04:32
ubuntuKhaotik do you run dapper?04:32
v3ctorubuntu: try #ubuntu+104:32
Khaotiknope04:32
KhaotikI just got this installed last night and i want to say it was the easiest install and set-up of any linux distro i have ever used.04:32
ahmuck_jrhttp://www.pastebin.com/68740904:32
ahmuck_jrhttp://www.pastebin.com/687049 - er04:33
KhaotikAnybody here know how to set up a Network Bridge in Kubuntu?04:33
KhaotikAnyone?04:34
Hobbseev3ctor: kubuntu dapper users are being repointed back here now....04:36
HobbseeKhaotik: no idea, sorry04:36
Hobbseeubuntu: it'd be nice if you could actually mentoin a little bit of what's happening in your summary...04:36
KhaotikSee i use this pc as a router and i need to be able to have a network bridge with my Xbox04:36
HobbseeRiddell: you know about http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=965610#post965610 ?04:37
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RiddellHobbsee: there's still a number of those strange unicode errors in it, using English is a temporary workaround until I fix them all04:41
Hobbseeah ok04:42
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lucas_how to use superkaramba with compiz??? the superkaramba stay on top!!! is possible fiz it? i'm sorry for my english....04:51
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lucas_how to use superkaramba with compiz??? the superkaramba stay on top!!! is possible fix it? i'm sorry for my english....04:52
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mhterressorry, but what's compitz ?04:52
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gamxxxgl ;P04:52
lucas_compiz is a window manager... to use with xgl... they have mutch effects, including 3d...04:53
klondikeanyone has made working audacity on breezy?04:53
lucas_yah... xgl...04:53
mhterreshmmm04:53
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klondikewell if it can't be auda city any program to recor voice fro th microphone on ogg format04:55
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klondikewich so you prefer?04:55
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KhaotikStill nobody here with any idea how to set up a MAC network bridge?04:56
KhaotikWith my 2 NICs04:56
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lucas_other question, my ecr options, in kcontrol, don't open... i'm using kubuntu dapper, anyone have this problem?04:58
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lucas_or display options, ecr is in Brazilian Portuguese04:59
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hupp3lhey I actually have a question on getting a webhost05:03
kimoI'm on dapper, this network-manager-kde thing is always disabled in my tray!!05:04
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juliettehello, I can't wash wmv files in firefox with mplayer plugin or vlc plugin anybody knows why?05:06
juliettesorry for my english05:06
mindspin!f05:07
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mindspin05:07
mindspin!fr05:07
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:07
robotgeekubotu: tell juliette about w32codecs05:08
kimoubotu: hi mr bot05:08
ubotukimo: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:08
julietteyes I have w32codecs and I installed differents plugins wish are suposed to manage wmv05:09
robotgeekjuliette: maybe it has drm? not sure05:10
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juliettebut when I click on a link to a wmv video I get the download dialog05:10
robotgeekjuliette: no, that is not really an indicator that it can play05:10
alexnicolWhere is the Install New Theme option in System Settings?05:11
alexnicolI cant seem to find it anymore05:11
Haribo^uh, is there a program similiar to charmap in ubuntu? and if not, is there a way to do high-ascii?05:11
robotgeekalexnicol, use alt + f2, type "kcontrol" in the text box, and hit the <enter> key05:12
julietterobotgeek are you realy a bot?05:14
alexnicolrobotgeek: Thanks - but I now come back to a previous problem I have had05:15
alexnicolIt reckons that Qt is not installed05:15
alexnicoleven though I have no other options in adept for it05:15
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krenxim wondering why my old configs for games dont work, i copied them from my burned cd too the game cfg dir and renamed them to .conf instead of .cfg, when i run the game they are just overwritten05:20
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mth`MAWhi05:23
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yanisaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa05:24
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robotgeekyanis: please don't do that05:24
krenxrobotgeek: you know ?05:25
robotgeekkrenx: sorry, i don't play games05:25
krenxk05:26
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yanissorry robotgeek05:27
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virnikkrenx: try to chattr them to +i, they will became imunne to overwriting05:43
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krenxvirnik: I dont know what you just said05:44
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krenxwith the chattr them to +i part05:44
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mindspin!tell me about easyubuntu05:49
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epIs it possible to apt-get Koffice 1.5 in breezy or must I 'upgrade' to dapper in order to obtain this.05:51
ninHerhi all05:51
robotgeekep: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-15.php05:51
epI'm not an upgrade junkie but 1.5 does ODF and 1.4 doesn't (i think)05:52
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vgehey, how i can use perform in konversation?05:54
Search4Lancergood question05:55
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vge"perform on connect", thats the name i have learned for it05:56
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jpatrickvge: that's the commands it should do on log in05:58
vgeic, it's the "command" field05:58
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vgekinda bad named05:58
cenobytei need some serious help please05:58
cenobytewhen i boot up kubuntu it wont go into X05:59
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cenobyteanyone here05:59
mhterresyour video driver is correct ?06:00
jpatrickcenobyte: no error?06:00
cenobyteyeah06:00
mhterresyou should look at the report errors of X06:01
cenobytewhat happened was i tried to edit the mouse part in xorg to get my left and right side buttons working and after i edited it it will not let me in X06:01
mhterreshmmm06:01
cenobytethis is what i did http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#enable-5button-mouse06:01
mhterresuse dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:01
vgecenobyte: hope you have your backup from xorg.conf06:01
cenobyteno06:02
cenobytei should have backed up but i didnt06:02
vgenaah, use what mhterres suggested :)06:02
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vgebackup is allways a +06:02
mhterrescenobyte: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:02
cenobyteok ill have to leave because im in knoppix right now06:02
mhterresok06:03
mhterresdpkg-reconfigure will guide you06:03
cenobytek ill try it and let u know if it works brb when im done06:04
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mhterresok06:04
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krenxwave:DSDB_MapBuffer Could not map sound device for direct access (Input / output error)06:05
krenxhow do i fix this     ?06:05
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n3stormKrenx: what when where06:07
gamxxbuuuu, adept still not working :(06:08
mhterresso, you'll have to use apt-get update, apt-get upgrade06:08
mhterresthat is the same06:08
krenxn3storm: when im trying to launch a game with wine from terminal, the game works but not the sound06:08
jarleI have problem installing my printer, I select the driver from the list in KDE Print, but then I get "Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Epson-Stylus_C86,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation." And I AM running in administrator mode... any ideas?06:09
n3stormkrenx: sorry I can't help you with wine06:09
gamxxi did apt-get update, upgrade too, and nothing new ;/06:09
n3stormare you sure that the game works?06:09
n3stormunder linux?06:09
epi added the key per these instructions http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-15.php, then I did sudo apt-get update.  Then I ran synaptic and the koffice version is still listed as 1.4 not 1.5.  So what gets installed if I apt-get install koffice ?06:11
krenxn3storm: alrite, ill ask in winehq06:11
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n3stormkrenx: check google too06:11
kagouanyone know where/how kprinter save configuration for user default printer (not in ~/.cups/lpotions) ?06:12
krenxn3storm: yeah, just did and got a good answer :)06:13
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n3stormgreat!06:13
epI have breezy and I'm trying to acquire koffice 1.5.  I added the key per the instructions above however apt-cache showpkg koffice still list 1.4x What am I doing wrong?06:15
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cenobytei would like to say thankyou to whoever helped me with the X problem i was having06:17
epOh, I see.   I think have to use one of the deb files listed on the same page. I've never installed via a deb file.  How do I do this via the CLI?06:18
cenobytethe code "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" fixed the problem so thankyou very much06:18
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ubuntuis there another way to install kubuntu dapper? ... i cant get installer to work right06:20
Seantaterubuntu: yes06:21
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ubuntuhow?06:21
Seantaterubuntu: install breezy badger first, then upgrade to dapper using apt06:21
ubuntubesides dist-upgrade..06:21
ubuntuis there any disadvantages to that?06:21
Seantatersome06:21
Seantaterone being that sometimes dependancies become problems06:21
ubuntu*sigh*06:22
SeantaterIn Aplha, there about a 10% chance, betas a 5% chance, IMO06:22
Seantaterso you can take your chances06:22
Seantaterhowever, soon, expresso will be out06:22
ubuntuhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16740406:22
ubuntuthats my problem06:22
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Seantatersunrex: be patient06:23
Seantatersunrex: They'll fix it06:23
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SunrexSeantater: i know, but its sad..06:23
Seantatersunrex: hey -- is there a way I can help, I know python06:24
epIf installing dapper from CD. Which would be the better route, install ubuntu then apt-get kubuntu-desktop or to just install kubuntu straight off?06:24
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Seantaterep: probably starting with kubuntu06:24
Sunrexwhats faster and more customizable? gnome or KDE06:24
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Seantaterep: that way, you don;t waste disk space06:24
epok06:24
Seantaterep: but then again, if that's not a problem, try them all!06:25
Seantaterep: xubuntu can be interesting..06:25
vgeSunrex: KDE is more customizable but Gnome is faster06:25
SeantaterSunrex: Just start googling, there are debates about that until; the end of time06:25
epNever heard of it (xubuntu), where can i read up?06:25
Seantaterep: read up on xfce06:26
Seantater!xfce06:26
ubotuxfce is probably a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/06:26
Riddellvge: "gnome is faster" is hightly debateable06:27
Riddellalthough also hard to debate without getting into a flame war :)06:27
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jorikgnome certainly doesnt feel any faster then KDE over here, i dont really notice a diffrence06:28
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Tonio_lut06:36
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slow-motionhallo06:48
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robotgeekslow-motion: hey06:51
vonHalenbachHallo.06:51
slow-motionhi robotgeek06:51
slow-motionhi vonHalenbach06:51
vonHalenbachsende Gre06:52
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slow-motionempfnger unbekannt verzogen *g*06:52
robotgeek!fr06:53
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:53
robotgeekif that was french :P06:53
vonHalenbachno that was german.06:53
slow-motionno, a little more to the east06:53
FornaxHehe..06:53
vonHalenbachhi robotgeek .06:53
robotgeekhi all06:53
slow-motion!de06:54
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de06:54
slow-motioncool06:54
slow-motion!org06:54
ubotuslow-motion: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:54
vonHalenbachgeil06:54
vonHalenbachMein Kubuntu 5.10 ist nmlich total buggy06:55
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robotgeekvonHalenbach: upgrade to kde 3.5.2 fixes :)06:56
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vonHalenbachI had problems to run "rosegarden" a midi sequencer.06:57
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vonHalenbachbecause /dev/seq does not exist.06:57
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n3stormvonHalenbach: have you got a midi capable soundcard?07:28
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_david_hi07:32
_david_i need help07:32
_david_i need to get gtkspell07:32
_david_but i have no idea how to07:32
_david_anyuone there?!?!07:33
_david_Helllllooooo07:33
_david_I NEED SOME HELP HERE!07:33
justanotheruserplease disable capslock _david_07:34
_david_ok sorry07:34
_david_can you help me get gtkspell anyone?07:35
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justanotheruser_david_: have you tried "apt-cache search gtkspell"?07:40
justanotheruserno thanks man07:41
vonHalenbachn3storm: I think so.07:42
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MEtaLpREsis there somewhere to change the time format to 12 hour instaled of 24?07:47
chip42MEtaLpREs: i think if you right click on the clock and goto 'date and time format'07:48
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MEtaLpREsyea i tried that, i dont see the option for it07:50
MEtaLpREsnm, got it07:50
ParkotronMEtaLpREs: System Settings | Regional and Accessibility | Country/Region & Language | Time & Dates07:50
x1n933kjustanotheruser: you just gave me fix to my problem...thanks :D07:51
justanotherusergood good, i new i was semi-effective today, i felt it when i got out of bed...07:52
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mrjhi07:57
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mrji am experiensing problems with wine07:57
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mrjcould someone help me ?07:58
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mrjhi07:59
mrjsomeone help me please07:59
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seth|lappyif you do not specify your problem, no one will know how to fix it.08:00
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domihi08:02
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mrjfixme:ntdll:NtConnectPort (0x7d587398,L"\\RPC Control\\DNSResolver",0x7c95de8c,(nil),(nil),(nil),0x7c95deb4,0x7c95de9c),stub!08:02
mrjwhat that does mean ?08:02
mrjwhat does it mean08:02
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domidoes someone know how to have the thumbnails of videos in konqueror ?08:02
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seth|lappymrj, that's a function in wine that isn't emulated yet08:05
seth|lappye.g. it won't work08:05
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mrjbut i've had the same problems with phd.dll ---> and i just have copied it from WINDOWS/SYSTEM32 to .wine/system3208:06
mrjand that did WORK for phd.dll08:07
mrji mean pdh.dll08:07
atirodomi: I believe you need to go to Settings | Configure Konqueror | Previews & Meta-data08:07
mrjseth|lappy:  ? any ideas how i can make it with ntdll.dll ?08:08
justanotheruserdomi: konqueror>settings> 2 from above(someting like preview and meta-data) local protocols>hit "file"08:08
chip42atiro: after you do that and the thumbnails don't show up, what is the likely culprit?08:08
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seth|lappymrj, mmkay, just copy it in then08:08
mrjseth|lappy:  i've already tried to copy ntdll.dll in .wine/System3208:08
mrjseth|lappy: but that didn't work08:08
atirochip42: not really sure, I don't use Konqueror myself...08:08
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jeff_hey guys08:09
seth|lappymrj, it should be in /system, not /system3208:09
jeff_any web developers in the house?08:09
mrji ve tried both08:09
domijustanotheruser: it is already ticked /o\08:09
jeff_whats the best web developent app for kubuntu?08:10
mrjseth|lappy: i ve tried both of them - i've copied the file in both system and system3208:10
justanotheruserdomi: strange, that checkbox enables/disables the icon preview while browsing here08:10
seth|lappydunno then08:10
chip42atiro: *nod* i have given up on the thumbnails.. i hope it gets fixed in the future.. was thinking it might be filesystem related since all my video files reside on other media. glad its not important to my experience ;)08:11
jeff_whats the best app for making web pages in kubuntu?08:12
atirochip42: yeah, I'm playing with it right now it's not working for me either... oh well :)08:12
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chip42jeff_: there is a kdewebdev package that installs a bunch of fun html tools08:15
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jeff_chip42: ok, ill check it out08:15
charwoodWhen I try and run any OpenGL program (glxinfo, glxgears, etc.), I get either the message "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" OR "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual" (presumably depending on whether it is trying to be double-buffered)08:16
charwoodI'm using Dapper Drake Beta with the current fglrx08:17
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atirochip42: solved it... apt-get install kdemultimedia :)08:17
chip42atiro: ahh. that explains a lot. kdemultimedia was held back at one point. i never fetched it08:17
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charwoodAny idea why opengl hates me?  Missing package?  Need to load a module in xorg.conf?08:18
atirochip42: yeah, that fixed it immediately for me08:18
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raudis there a program for kubuntu that make it possible for me to download an file from a mm:// host?08:29
jeff_your trying to use shoutcast right08:29
jeff_raud: ?08:30
raudi am not sure, i just know that the bigest newspeaper in norway have put an video where i am, on a mms:// :O08:30
jeff_hmm08:31
raudthe url is: mms://video.vg.no/vg/video2005/storage/compressed/2960/wm_56.wmv08:31
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charwoodDoes anyone know what I need to change/install to get openGL to work?  Currently I'm getting the error "couldn't get an RGB visual" whenever I try and start for instance glxgears.  Is this broken in Dapper Drake beta?08:39
TehUniis there any reasonable way to sync my pda (windows mobile 5) within kubuntu?08:40
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charwoodTehUni: Things seem pretty silent today.  I'm interested in knowing the same thing.08:42
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charwoodMy boss said that he thought Kontact had Outlook plugins08:42
atiroTehUni: SynCE syncs with KDE pretty nicely...08:42
charwoodI'm not really organized enough to use either so I'm not to worried, still, it would be neat.08:42
TehUnimmm08:42
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atiroTehUni: However, SynCE does not support WM5...08:42
TehUniyea, that's what i figured08:43
TehUninothing seems to  :\08:43
atiroTehUni: So, the possibilities are pretty limited right now... people have some patches for SynCE WM5 support, but they're some serious work and may or may not help08:43
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saaidaGuys. i always here that linux is faster and uses less resources. i have kinda of slow computer. when i used winxp i manually removed some stuff that was included in windows defaults. and succeced to load windows xp with only 85 Mb of ram . is it possible to the same with with ubuntu ? i mean the default installations08:46
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atirosaaida: it kind of depends... with a "default installation", presumably meaning KDE or Gnome, then probably not08:49
atirosaaida: however, if you do some tweaking and possibly use a more minimalistic window manager (fluxbox?), then yes, I'm sure you could get it under 85mb08:50
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saaidaatiro : im using kubuntu. and my aim is reaching 150 mb when i boot kubuntu. the thing there are like 1004 packeges installed in my kubuntu now. so there are alot and also not sure what exactly can or can't remove08:53
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charwoodsaaida: there is a xubuntu project that uses xfce as the window manager.  It would run with lower memory.08:55
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saaidacharwood : yeah but still in Beta08:56
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atirosaaida: I recommend checking out sysv-rc-conf09:01
saaidawhat is ? sysv-rc-conf09:01
atirosaaida: it's a package that you can use to tweak what applications start at boot (makes things a lot easier)09:01
_marcelhi09:01
_marcelhello !!is a polish channel on this server?09:01
saaidainteresting . first im gonna run some net searches about the subject of tweaking then start09:02
atirosaaida: there's a lot of default kubuntu stuff that you don't need (bluetooth and wifi probably, etc.)09:02
saaidaThanx for the advice09:02
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atirosaaida: sure thing, good luck :)09:02
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saaidais sysv-rc-conf a package in archieve ?09:04
atiroyes, it's in apt09:04
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krenx!winetools09:06
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, krenx09:06
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krenxok ubotu09:06
krenx:)09:06
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jeff_lol09:15
jeff_that obotu is pretty snappy09:16
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MEtaLpREsdoes kubuntu block ports by default?  i am having major issues with torrents,  used 4 different programs my router definetly has the right ports open but i can get any connections on any torrent09:27
OdyXsomeone to confirm bug 41955 ?09:29
UbugtuMalone bug 41955 in kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing "Normal user cannot share folders from home, even if authorised" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4195509:29
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ParkotronOdyX: I can confirm that here.09:34
OdyXParkotron: Confirm it on launchpad please...09:37
OdyXParkotron: click on the name and choose "confirmed".09:38
OdyXParkotron: Maybe add precisions or better translations (mines are from french...)09:38
ParkotronOdyX: Can just anybody confrim a bug? I have an account, but I know nothing about Launchpad.09:43
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OdyXParkotron: it's the idea...09:47
TheNightRider``hello everyvan09:47
TheNightRider``lol09:47
OdyXParkotron: if you have the bug...09:48
TheNightRider``<-- idiot09:48
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OdyXParkotron: confirm...09:48
OdyXTheNightRider``:  ???09:48
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ParkotronOdyX: Alright, will do.09:48
TheNightRider``i just had too much to drink :D09:48
TheNightRider``sry09:48
PaloDeQuesois there a python help channel?09:48
PaloDeQuesoI tgried #python09:48
PaloDeQuesobut it says I have to be identified09:48
TheNightRider``PaloDeQueso: register first ;)09:49
PaloDeQuesohow do I do that, online somewhere?09:49
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OdyXPaloDeQueso:  type /msg NickServ register YOUR_PASSWORD YOUR_EMAIL09:50
gamxxhelp me ;/09:51
PaloDeQuesodoes anyone here know python, I just need to know if you can have a function declaration at the top of a file and the definition at the bottom similar to c, so far I have to define the function at the top?09:51
gamxxhttp://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3826/snapshot21rs.png Adept dont start09:51
TheNightRider``gamxx: type apt-get update in konsole09:52
TheNightRider``:)09:52
gamxxheh, adept still not working ;p09:53
saaidawhat's the official site of xbuntu ?09:53
TheNightRider``gamxx: sry then, cant help ya ;)09:53
ParkotronOdyX: Done.09:53
TheNightRider``ubuntu09:53
TheNightRider``www.ubuntu.org i think09:54
TheNightRider``ubotu: website09:54
ubotuTheNightRider``: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:54
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ParkotronOdyX: Are you able to use kdenetwork-filesharing to give public write access to a shared directory? I have a folder configured with write access, but my girlfriend's WinXP machine says it doesn't have write permission.09:58
OdyXParkotron: give "others" right to write in "properties" for each folder/file.10:01
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myndmelderAnyone home?10:03
ParkotronOdyX: Oh! That makes so much sense. Samba was letting others write to it, but Linux wasn't. Thanks.10:04
OdyXParkotron: Yeah.. I fell in that trap mor than once.10:04
myndmelderHello people.10:04
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myndmelderMInd if I ask a question about an install?10:05
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saaidaAny other Linux Distros that use less Memory ?10:06
ParkotronOdyX: When checking the "writable" checkbox, it should really check to see if others have write access and warn you if they don't.10:06
saaidaIs Zenwalk any good ?10:06
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OdyXydOParkotron: file a "bug" = "wish" ..10:07
OdyXydOParkotron: I'm on my way.10:07
OdyXydOParkotron: Have nice week-end!10:08
Parkotronmyndmelder: Just ask your question, You don't have to ask permission.10:08
ParkotronOdyXydO: Thanks again. You too.10:08
myndmelderIt's common courtesy. But anyways, what is the command I need to use in terminal to instal a tarball...10:09
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myndmelderI just did a reinstal of kubuntu, and I am trying to avoid using Automatix to get my programs up and running...10:10
myndmelderRight now I am working on Azureus.10:10
myndmelderGot the Java RE installed, and an azureus tarball sitting on my desktop.10:11
Parkotronmyndmelder: Installing tarball's is not that straigh forward, especially for beginners.10:11
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Parkotronmyndmelder: Try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14454610:13
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shadow_quick.. how to display files in a .deb file i have ?10:13
myndmelderI'm sorta out of options since Automatix dicked up my last attempt to run Kubuntu, and I couldn't get BeeWee's Automatiks to run period...10:13
Parkotronshadow_: Open it in Ark?10:13
myndmelderParkotron thank you.10:14
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shadow_Parkotron: wooo ! ark opens deb files too :) cool.. thanks10:14
myndmelderI'll be back later...10:14
ParkotronYou're both welcome.10:14
myndmelderWait, one last one... What is the equivalent of gedit in KDE?10:15
Parkotronmyndmelder: Kate10:15
myndmelderAhh10:15
Parkotronmyndmelder: Or if you have it installed, KEdit.10:16
justanotheruseris multimedia also broken with you guys? I can't get it to work anymore :(10:16
Parkotronjustanotheruser: That's a pretty general statement. Can you be more specific?10:16
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justanotheruserParkotron: i only have sound ATM, no video(all mimetypes), it worked flawless for weeks10:17
walberhi there, have you ever used apt-build to compile linux kernel? does it shows menuconfig???10:18
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Parkotronjustanotheruser: That could be a lot of different things. I'd like to try to help you out, but I've got to go. Sorry.10:19
shadow_Parkotron: dpkg -c does it too :)10:19
justanotheruserParkotron: ok, thanks anyway10:20
justanotheruseroh what i remember, i changed to a different resolution with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and put "benq" in as an brand. Could that have anything todo with it?10:24
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mo0seweeeeeeeeee.10:24
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mo0sei'm back.10:24
mo0se:P10:24
justanotheruser*benq as in manual input10:24
justanotheruserwhat's the standard brand you have to supply when yours isn't in the list? Then i could try that out :) Something like vesa was it?10:25
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mo0sewhat does recursively mean?10:31
justanotherusermo0se: it means that all child folders with get caught by the command10:32
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justanotheruserassuming that you're asking this for a command on a folder10:32
mo0seoh.. whenever i try to copy a file from my windows partition to my linux partition it gives me an error and then i have to copy it using the recursively command.10:32
mo0seand when it works, the folder is locked...10:32
mo0sehow do i unlock it?10:33
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justanotherusermo0se: check you rights in the file10:33
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mo0seis there a way to copy files from my ntfs partition to my linux partition without using konsole?10:37
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justanotherusershit, didnlt solved it. mplayer crashes on movies now and kaffeine only does sound(?)10:42
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justanotherusermplayer tells me this while crashing: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/687679 those ? ? don't look helpfull to me10:45
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justanotherusercounting in MB's for videocards, 1MB = 1024KB, am i right here?10:48
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A-Wingjustanotheruser: yes10:51
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gleesondok so for some reasion my cd drive keeps locking up and I'm not sure what PID to kill because top isn't showing the runaway10:53
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justanotheruserwhen i right-click on a avi movie and do "open with kaffeine" i get-> KDEInit couldn't start 'location.avi'10:54
gleesondjustanotheruser: use vlc10:55
justanotheruseri screwed my multimedia without doing anything10:55
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justanotherusergleesond: vlc actually doesn't run any movie here (i tried every player on the planet now)10:55
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justanotheruser*ok, almost every player10:56
gleesondoh10:56
justanotherusergleesond: and i have codecs and stuff, it just stopped working after an upgrade :(10:57
justanotheruserat least, that's how it looks like since i haven't change a thing10:57
gleesondah did you upgrade to dapper10:57
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justanotherusergleesond: no i did from dapper to dapper (i use is months already)10:58
bipolarcan anyone help me debug my fglrx dual monitor problems in kubuntu dapper? the display settings control center app does not detect my setup correctly.10:58
justanotherusergleesond: and i upgrade every day, but somewhere yesterday or the day before my video was gone10:59
justanotheruserstrange thing is that the preview thumbnails in konqueror all still work11:00
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justanotheruseri think i am going for a fresh beta 2 then....11:01
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anthonyhello11:06
anthonyany one here to help?11:06
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anthony?11:06
HymnToLife!anyone11:06
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>11:06
anthonyI have problems installing a graphics card driver in ubuntu11:07
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anthonycan anyone help me pls?11:08
anthony!anyone11:08
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>11:08
HymnToLife!helpme11:09
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.11:09
anthonyDoes anyone know how to login as root?11:09
HymnToLifeanthony> basically, just ask your question. If someonre can help, he will11:09
HymnToLifeanthony> you don't login as root on ubuntu11:09
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HymnToLife!root11:09
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.11:09
anthonyI need to install a display driver and it says i need to log in as root. SO what do I do pls?11:10
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indrohi there11:11
HymnToLifeanthony> hich driver ?11:11
anthonyhi11:11
HymnToLifewhich*11:11
anthonynvidia graphics driver11:11
HymnToLife!nvidia11:11
ubotuPlease read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia11:11
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HymnToLifeuse that page to install them on Ubuntu11:12
indroi tried to install kubuntu beta2, the installer crashed on the partition step11:12
anthonytnx11:12
HymnToLifeindro> Dapper is beta for a reason ;)11:12
HymnToLifeanthony> you're welcome11:12
anthonywait11:13
anthonyi actually have kubuntu11:13
anthonyand that page is not good :S11:13
anthonybecause it has KDE11:13
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HymnToLifeanthony> it will work too, UBuntu and Kubuntu are the same thing11:14
HymnToLifewhy, oh why did the choose to use to different nems ? It's so stupid11:15
HymnToLifenames*11:15
myndmelderHow do you force quit a program? Azureus froze...11:15
anthonySelect Administration then Synaptic Package Manager.11:15
justanotheruserindro: the livecd i hope?11:15
HymnToLifeoh11:15
anthonyi cant find that in kubuntu11:15
HymnToLifeune Adept instead then anthony11:15
HymnToLifeor the command line11:16
indroyes... work the text base installation?11:16
justanotheruserindro: yes much more stable AFAIK11:16
indrookay, thanks ;)11:16
anthonytnx11:17
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justanotherusercool, gmail is down here11:17
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indrohere too ;)11:18
HymnToLifehere too but who cares ?11:19
WhyMTalking about gmail... is there still no way to use imap with it?11:19
myndmelderHow do i go about force quitting a program? Azureus is frozen in the splash screen.11:19
HymnToLifemyndmelder> sudo killall process_name11:19
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mo0sehow do i install firefox?11:20
mo0sei downloaded the archive and unarchived it.11:20
myndmelderthanks11:20
mo0senow i'm lost.11:20
HymnToLife!tell mo0se about ff1.511:21
HymnToLifemo0se> see the link ubotu gave you :)11:21
mo0sethanks.11:21
mo0se:311:21
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gleesondso my dvd drive is causing runnaways that are not showing up with top or ps... it just tells me device is busy11:23
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gleesondI cant un-mount it either11:23
Kadranhi all11:23
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HymnToLifegleesond> you have one process using it somewhere11:23
Kadrani want to know what is the difference Kubuntu and Ubuntu11:23
gleesondHymnToLife: but I'm not sure what that process is11:24
WhyMKDE / Gnome11:24
indrogleesond: lsof /dev/*11:24
Kadrani love kde and use Mandriva linux11:24
HymnToLifeKadran> fundamentally there is none11:24
anthonyyes hym2lkife11:24
HymnToLifebut "Kubuntu" comes with KDE by default11:24
anthonyi can read ur private msg11:24
HymnToLifeanthony> but I can't see yours, did you register your nickname ?11:24
anthonyno11:25
HymnToLifegleesond> then try guessing what it is or reboot11:25
HymnToLife!tell anthony about register11:25
gleesondI found it11:25
gleesondthanks that seemed to fix it when I killed the PID11:26
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KadranHymnToLife: i lova Mandriva but i think Kubuntu is more ubdated with new stuff more faster11:27
fatejudger!fglrx11:27
ubotusomebody said fglrx was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:27
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fatejudger!sources.list11:27
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:27
HymnToLifeKadran> as for myself, I don't like Mandriva at all11:27
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HymnToLifeso yeah, Ubunntu is much better IMO11:27
TerminusKadran: the nice thing about (K)Ubuntu is the fact that everything is so neat and organized. :)11:28
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Kadranok guys i am convinced i will kubuntu a try hope it is nice thank you all11:28
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indroKadran: use the text installer11:29
indrothe livecd installer dont work here11:30
Terminusgleesond: FYI, if the same thing happens again, maybe using fuser will help you find the problematic process easier. :)11:30
indroif you want try the beta ;)11:30
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_mattI'm having problems installing kubuntu to my dell, when it gets to the point of displaying the window manager the screen just goes blank11:35
_matti hav no problems installing on my compaq11:35
_mattthe dell has a nvidia driver and the compaq has onboard intel graphics?11:36
_mattanyone have any ideas? is it something to do with the way X is set11:36
Web-Kanotix929take care livecd installer, because to format partion11:37
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Web-Kanotix929test beta 211:38
NoUse_matt have you tested the live CD on the dell?11:38
Terminus_matt: don't really have any experience with dells, but if it's new, maybe problems with PCIe? disclaimer: i haven't touched boxen with PCIe either. just taking a wild guess.11:38
_mattyes have tried live cd and got the same problem, it was hoary hedehog though. could this make a difference?11:39
_mattdoes kubuntu have problems with PCI Express/11:39
Terminus_matt: maybe you could try posting the output of dmesg somewhere and some of the more experienced guys here can take a look. :)11:40
_mattok11:41
NoUse_matt have you tried breezy at all?11:41
Terminusbah... i forgot that hoary is *old*11:42
Terminushehe11:42
_mattno, but I think i'll just wait for dapper and then try that11:42
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Terminus_matt: if you're in a hurry, dapper beta is available now.11:43
_mattthanks11:43
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krenxis there any hz tool for linux like there is ReForce for windows ?11:45
NoUsehz?11:45
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krenxyes, for changing the monitor hz for different resolutions11:48
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NoUsekrenx you alter that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf I believe11:49
krenxok thanks.11:50
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shawn_workWhere do I get the small ISO to burn to do a network install?11:55
shawn_workfor Kubuntu beta 2 dapper11:56
Terminusshawn_work: there is no network install AFAIK. you could use an old cd and upgrade though.11:56
shawn_workgot no CD though :)11:56
NoUseshawn_work search the wiki for 'installation' there are dozens of ways to install11:57
Terminusshawn_work: the netinstall methods on the wiki seem to require that you at least have the necessary files on your LAN.11:57
shawn_workhmmm11:57
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bimberi!install11:58
ubotuInstalling Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware11:58
Terminusshawn_work: there's install from knoppix if you have that. :)11:58
shawn_workya i need to download I have em64t box to install Kubuntu11:58
shawn_workhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/11:58
shawn_worki'll get the current build for today :)11:58
bimberishawn_work: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot in particular11:58
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shawn_workthats ok I dont have a pxe server set up here11:59
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shawn_workI'm moving my old windows desktop machine to Kubuntu :)11:59
shawn_worksince  well, I dont need windows and if I do can throw it in Vmware so its isolated from me11:59
shawn_work:D11:59
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kimoI really wanna use the knetwork-manager, but it's just disabled in my system-tray! What can I do to enable it ?12:01

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