[12:00] <HumanPrototype> nekostar, thanks
[12:00] <khaladan> I did a server install.  What package(s) should I install to get X and GNOME running?
[12:00] <_jason> Stormx2: find | xargs echo, for example
[12:00] <HumanPrototype> intelikey, thanks
[12:00] <nekostar> khaladan,
[12:00] <nics_> find . -name "requirement" -exec <cmd> \$;
[12:00] <HymnToLife> khaladan> ubuntu-desktop
[12:00] <nekostar> how much ease do you want it to be
[12:00] <Allan> Stormx2: it depends on the command; some can't do it at all
[12:00] <nics_> forget eht \
[12:00] <Stormx2> I made a script which is ment to run every time I download something, but I forgot to set it up. It works on the basis of.... musicmove filenamehere.mp3
[12:00] <dxdemetriou> I have a problem to boot from sata disk with windows. My first disk is ide with Ubuntu, and the windows on the first sata. It worked ok, up to the time I added disk in hdb. Instead from sata disk it boot from hdb. What I can do? here is the link for my configuration: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13000
[12:00] <nekostar> are you trying for a light install or full install ?
[12:00] <nekostar> one route is:
[12:01] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg xserver-common x-window-system gdm gnome-core
[12:01] <Stormx2> I had a command which did it before, but I forgot it :(
[12:01] <nekostar> that SHOULD get you close
[12:01] <_jason> nics_: does it work with the $ like that?
[12:01] <nekostar> full bulky install:
[12:01] <Hexidigital> hiya _jason
[12:01] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:01] <_jason> Hexidigital: hello
[12:01] <nics_> actually been drinking too much should be -exec <cmd> {} \;
[12:02] <Stormx2> _jason, biovore, Allan, what do you think ^_^
[12:02] <nics_> better still 'man find' :-)
[12:02] <biovore> Stormx2: can be done with a simple bash script
[12:02] <nekostar> dxdemetriou, pplz looking be patient
[12:02] <intelikey> Stormx2 find /<path> -type f -exec <your command> {} \;
[12:02] <Stormx2> intelikey: Thanks
[12:02] <dxdemetriou> nekostar: sorry.. I posted twice to be with the link :)
[12:03] <intelikey> Stormx2 replace all within <>
[12:03] <Stormx2> intelikey: Right
[12:03] <Stormx2> intelikey: And that'll add the filename to the end of it
[12:03] <Allan> Stormx2: I suggest doing "man musicmove", and if one of the options, say, -r, does recursive, use it. If there isn't,  use one of the complicated ways suggested by intelikey and _jason
[12:03] <nekostar> dxdemetriou,
[12:03] <nekostar> you know
[12:03] <intelikey> yes
[12:03] <nekostar> the easiest way might be to reinstall grub from the cdrom
[12:03] <Stormx2> Allan: I wrote the musicmove script ;-)
[12:03] <intelikey> it will appear where   {}  is
[12:03] <nekostar> kinda like when u install windows after ubuntu and have to redo it
[12:03] <nekostar> lemme find u a link
[12:03] <Allan> Stormx2: there goes my brilliant idea
[12:03] <biovore> Stormx2: for i in filelist; do echo "moving *.mp3 to ~/music/"; mv $i ~/music/$i; done
[12:04] <pablo_> http://pastebin.com/685743
[12:04] <intelikey> with full path     and you can add   '   if needed
[12:04] <intelikey> '{}'
[12:04] <pablo_> i need help with this file
[12:04] <Allan> Where do I go for problems with the Ralink wireless driver on Breezy?
[12:04] <pablo_> http://pastebin.com/685743
[12:04] <polpak> Allan, here, or the forums
[12:04] <Stormx2> biovore: o.O what?
[12:04] <Allan> thanks
[12:04] <intelikey> got a job to do be back later on maybe.
[12:04] <pablo_> its dhcp.conf file  http://pastebin.com/685743
[12:05] <biovore> Stormx2: its a on cli bash script :-P
[12:05] <Allan> Stormx2: I think those are a series of commands to be run in a shell script
[12:05] <Allan> oops
[12:05] <Stormx2> intelikey quit :(
[12:05] <Stormx2> I was about to thank him lol
[12:05] <Stormx2> Well thanks everyone who just helped out :D
[12:06] <dxdemetriou> nekostar: I will boot from cd normally, or it need extra parameters?
[12:06] <MystaMax> what difference does it make who the user/group proftpd is setup to run as?
[12:06] <nekostar> dxdemetriou,
[12:06] <verdee> hi everyone
[12:06] <nekostar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113&highlight=fix+grub+howto
[12:06] <nekostar> boot from install cd
[12:07] <nekostar> real REAL easy
[12:07] <Allan> I've compiled and installed the RT2570 driver for my USB wireless card (found it at heanet.dl.sf.net/rt2400)
[12:07] <nekostar> do you have two comps dxdemetriou ?
[12:07] <Allan> and it doesn't work
[12:07] <nekostar> i can walk u through it live
[12:07] <khaladan> i get an error that says x-window-system not available
[12:07] <khaladan> "has no installation candidate"
[12:07] <khaladan> ???
[12:07] <nekostar> khaladan,
[12:07] <Allan> sorry if I don't provide enough info
[12:07] <nekostar> x-window-system-core then
[12:07] <khaladan> okay.
[12:08] <Allan> but I don't know much. What could be wrong, and how do I fix it?
[12:08] <nekostar> khaladan, are you trying for the lightest install possible/?
[12:08] <dxdemetriou> nekostar: yes. both with ubuntu in first disk :)
[12:08] <prometoys> hi, which package handle the OSD for volume low/high/mute and eject?
[12:08] <khaladan> yeah, i want a light install.
[12:08] <khaladan> but i do want X.
[12:08] <khaladan> and GNOME too.
[12:08] <nekostar> ok dxdemetriou boot to ubuntu install disk on the compy needed and log in here with the other one
[12:08] <nekostar> khaladan, then thats the package for you
[12:08] <khaladan> now i get the same prob w/ gnome-core...
[12:08] <polpak> khaladan, just do server install and then sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core xinit gnome-core and you should be set
[12:09] <SeaBrie> can I ask a [hopefully]  quick and noddy apt question?
[12:09] <khaladan> it suggests gnome-desktop-data for something
[12:09] <nekostar> gdm x-window-system-core xserver-xorg gnome-core
[12:09] <nekostar> i belive
[12:09] <Allan> SeaBrie:sure, but don't ask to ask a question. Just ask it.
[12:09] <nekostar> suggests dont matter
[12:09] <dxdemetriou> nekostar: ok. thanks for the help. I will connect here from the other pc.
[12:09] <EfrenStudios> buenas !!
[12:09] <khaladan> i'll try that
[12:09] <nekostar> whatever it makes u install let it khaladan
[12:09] <polpak> khaladan, I think you need xinit for the startx command
[12:09] <polpak> khaladan, but i could be wrong
[12:10] <nekostar> khaladan, he will have startx from what im having him do
[12:10] <SeaBrie> ok, if I remove a package using aptitude purge <package> and then manually remove its config file (let's say all of /etc/samba/ for argument's sake), how do I get apt to replace that with the default files again on reinstall?
[12:10] <nekostar> when u install gdm its in there
[12:10] <SeaBrie> currently it just complains that /etc/samba doesn't exist
[12:10] <khaladan> still getting no installation candidate w/ gnome-core
[12:10] <nekostar> and if your lucky gdm actually works :D
[12:10] <khaladan> what's that even mean? :(
[12:10] <nekostar> khaladan, hold on
[12:10] <Allan> Seabrie: purge already deletes the conf file
[12:10] <polpak> SeaBrie, purge already removes the config file
[12:10] <SeaBrie> no, it doesn't :)
[12:10] <nekostar> it means that package isnt specifically listed
[12:10] <polpak> SeaBrie, you shouldn't have removed /etc/samba
[12:10] <Allan> it should
[12:10] <SeaBrie> it deletes /etc/default/samba
[12:11] <khaladan> using "gdm x-window-system-core xserver-xorg gnome-core"
[12:11] <nekostar> its in the new ubuntu but lemme chekc my breezy
[12:11] <SeaBrie> (this is using dapper, btw)
[12:11] <SeaBrie> polpak: I wanted to nuke the changes I'd made to smb.conf and replace it with the package default again
[12:11] <polpak> !info gnome-core
[12:11] <ubotu> gnome-core: (The GNOME Desktop Environment -- essential components), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.10.1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[12:11] <SeaBrie> (yesyes, I should've backed it up first)
[12:11] <Allan> SeaBrie: you don't need to do anything, apt, by deafalt, replaces conf files with the default
[12:12] <polpak> khaladan, you need the universe repo
[12:12] <Allan> Just go ahead and reinstall
[12:12] <SeaBrie> Allan: hrm, my experience differs
[12:12] <khaladan> universe repo huh
[12:12] <Allan> that's strange... what does apt say?
[12:12] <SeaBrie> do I need to be aptitude reinstalling, rather than installing?
[12:12] <nekostar> ah sweet
[12:12] <polpak> !tell khaladan about repositories
[12:12] <nekostar> yeah
[12:12] <Allan> SeaBrie: yes
[12:12] <nekostar> khaladan, edit your sources
[12:12] <khaladan> okay.
[12:12] <khaladan> will do
[12:13] <nekostar> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:13] <tatters> if I want to run a server is DMZ  in a linksys routergoing be effective enough to seperate my private lan from the public box?
[12:13] <nekostar> anything thats not commented out add " universe multiverse "
[12:13] <nekostar> to the end of
[12:13] <nekostar> then do sudo apt-get update
[12:13] <khaladan> is dapper drake stable?
[12:13] <Allan> khaladan: not yet
[12:13] <Allan> khaladan: it will be on June 1
[12:14] <polpak> tatters, DMZ will basically forward all trafic going to your routers external ip to the machine in the DMZ
[12:14] <SeaBrie> ok, here's the relevant output of aptitude reinstall samba:
[12:14] <SeaBrie> Unpacking replacement samba ...
[12:14] <SeaBrie> Setting up samba (3.0.22-1ubuntu1) ...
[12:14] <SeaBrie>  * Starting Samba daemons...
[12:14] <SeaBrie>    ...fail!
[12:14] <SeaBrie> invoke-rc.d: initscript samba, action "start" failed.
[12:14] <nekostar> tatters, it routs all incoming...
[12:14] <SeaBrie> (because /etc/samba doesn't exist)
[12:14] <nekostar> but explicitly requested stuff from the other machines still gets to em
[12:14] <nekostar> :)
[12:14] <tatters> polpak: does it protect my private lan if the dmz box was compromisd?
[12:14] <polpak> tatters, nope
[12:14] <nekostar> SeaBrie, put on one line or use well
[12:14] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering why there is not a preview button or screensaver setup button under Screensave Preferences
[12:14] <nekostar> !flood
[12:14] <ubotu> well, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[12:14] <tatters> I red router DMZ is not true DMZ
[12:15] <nekostar> o.O
[12:15] <khaladan> ok, the page that describes how to add universe does it w/ Synaptic
[12:15] <SeaBrie> nekostar: ah, cunning, ok
[12:15] <khaladan> which I don't have...
[12:15] <polpak> tatters, the dmz box can connect to other machines on your local lan
[12:15] <polpak> tatters, and vice versa
[12:15] <tatters> so how do seprate my public from my private
[12:16] <khaladan> so, what file do i have to edit? i don't have X installed much less Synaptic
[12:16] <khaladan> sources.list?
[12:16] <jadaz87> 	hello i was wondering why there is not a preview button or screensaver setup button under Screensave Preferences
[12:16] <_harm> how do i see if i have a Working hardware accelerated OpenGL video card
[12:16] <nekostar> khaladan, /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:16] <khaladan> okay.
[12:16] <polpak> tatters, get 2 ips from your ISP. and put the server outside the local lan
[12:16] <biovore> _harm: glxinfo
[12:16] <khaladan> thanks
[12:16] <nekostar> np khaladan
[12:16] <tatters> hmm only single IP
[12:17] <nekostar> tatters,
[12:17] <polpak> _harm, glxinfo | grep -i direct
[12:17] <nekostar> what exactly are u trying to do
[12:17] <SeaBrie> going to give pastebin a go.  Apologies if I cock this up
[12:17] <polpak> _harm, if it says Yes then you have hardware redering
[12:17] <nekostar> lol its easy SeaBrie :D
[12:17] <polpak> _harm, rendering
[12:17] <nekostar> and we all F$#R@#$ up now and then
[12:17] <nekostar> XD
[12:17] <phoul> hell
[12:17] <_harm> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:17] <phoul> o
[12:17] <phoul> Sry
[12:17] <_harm> good or not?
[12:17] <phoul> excuse me anyone know of a stand alone equilizer?
[12:17] <polpak> _harm, Direct Rendering: ?
[12:17] <tatters> run a public server seperate from my private Lan
[12:17] <SeaBrie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13001 I guess will be what you want :)
[12:17] <_harm> direct rendering: No
[12:17] <phoul> I need on but it cant be attached to like xmms or something
[12:17] <khaladan> how come gnome is in universe? i thought it was fully supported.
[12:18] <nekostar> tatters,
[12:18] <polpak> _harm, then No
[12:18] <_harm> polpak i suppose i dont have it then :S
[12:18] <biovore> tatters: you can do it using iptables and nat
[12:18] <nekostar> you just wanna enable public filesharing on one server ?
[12:18] <polpak> _harm, what video card?
[12:18] <_harm> ATI 9200 SE
[12:18] <tatters> yah I got a nat rotuer
[12:18] <phoul> anyone know of a stand alone equilizer?
[12:18] <polpak> _harm, have you installed the ati drivers?
[12:18] <_harm> fglrx u mean? i tried but iam not sure
[12:18] <polpak> !tell _harm about ati
[12:18] <biovore> tatters: those things are crap..  some of them can kinda do it..
[12:18] <polpak> _harm, follow the instructions on the wiki
[12:19] <tatters> wrt-54 linksys running dd-wrt firmware
[12:19] <polpak> _harm, ubotu should have given you the link
[12:19] <_harm> polpak i already tried those :S
[12:19] <polpak> _harm, should work fine....
[12:19] <verdee> Problem with nvidia drivers (I've read the wiki). I understand that there is 2 drivers, one for Xserver and one for the kernel, right?
[12:19] <Allan> SeaBrie: Are you sure that it's the missing conf file causing the problem
[12:20] <_harm> urm sec ill redo them and ill post errors?
[12:20] <biovore> verdee: yes..
[12:20] <SeaBrie> Allan: I'm 99% sure, yes
[12:20] <teletubbie> !flash
[12:20] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:20] <phoul> does one exist?
[12:20] <phoul> Anyone at all
[12:20] <teletubbie> what command to start epihany?
[12:20] <tatters> I got a linux box with 2 NICs running lark connect as a gateway and want best way to connect to my linksys router
[12:20] <wolfie_> Hi there, I'm a noob at Ubuntu and lunix as a whole really and I am having trouble with the SAMBA set up. Neither my OSX or WinXP machines are taking my username and pass.
[12:20] <Allan> SeaBrie: I trust you, but do you have anything that supports that, or are you guessing?
[12:20] <phoul> _harm, I didnt know you used ubuntu
[12:20] <phoul> :P
[12:20] <biovore> phoul: what sound stystem you runnung?
[12:21] <_harm> phoul i do, dapper :P
[12:21] <polpak> _harm, actually... you said it's a 9200?
[12:21] <SeaBrie> Allan: I had it "working" before I nuked the package and /etc/samba
[12:21] <r0xoR> how can i do multiple logins? like the "switch user" functionality in windows XP? i.e. log on another user onto another desktop without logging myself off and closing my programs?
[12:21] <tatters> clarkconnect^^
[12:21] <_harm> polpak yes a Radeon 9200 SE
[12:21] <SeaBrie> that's about all I can offer as "evidence" though
[12:21] <phoul> biovore, umm meaning?
[12:21] <SeaBrie> by working IM I could connect to it using smbclient
[12:21] <biovore> phoul: your talking about sound EQ?
[12:21] <HymnToLife> wolfie_> samba uses it's own passwords, not the system ones, run sudo smbpasswd -a username
[12:21] <verdee> thanx biovore, i'm using 6.06 and the kernel driver is too old for the x server driver
[12:21] <phoul> biovore, excuse my stupidity but im still not sure what your asking
[12:21] <phoul> Like you wondering about my type of card?
[12:22] <biovore> verdee: 6.06 is under development so expect brokeness now and then
[12:22] <SeaBrie> maybe a better question would be where can I get the default config files for samba...? :)
[12:22] <xerophyte> with rsync how can i say to delete file which are not in the source location to the remove location .. i mean i wanna delete file which are not in the current location
[12:22] <biovore> phoul: what sound EQ you talking about?
[12:22] <phoul> any
[12:22] <tatters> Internet--X--Public-- IP gateway+DNS+webser+mysql--X--Private IP  --wrt54g--DHCP--lan    Ias thinknig this ?
[12:22] <SeaBrie> because then I can just drop them in place
[12:22] <Allan> SeaBrie: good enough evidence. instead of using the package system's reinstall thing, how about purging it, then installing it?
[12:22] <r0xoR> anyone?
[12:22] <phoul> I just need a equilizer that can do bass and trebel
[12:22] <biovore> phoul: running gnome?
[12:22] <phoul> yeah
[12:22] <SeaBrie> Allan: using dpkg?
[12:22] <r0xoR> phoul, alsamixer
[12:22] <biovore> phoul: SB-live?
[12:22] <phoul> It dont appear in alsamixer
[12:22] <r0xoR> er wait... equalizer
[12:22] <Allan> no, apt-get
[12:22] <phoul> SB-live?
[12:22] <biovore> phoul: sound card?
[12:22] <r0xoR> phoul, what sound card do you have
[12:22] <SeaBrie> apt-get --purge remove...?  Tried that :)
[12:22] <SeaBrie> same issue
[12:23] <phoul> its some crappy intel onboard thing
[12:23] <Allan> reboot computer
[12:23] <r0xoR> AC'97
[12:23] <phoul> intel ich
[12:23] <biovore> phoul: ac97 then
[12:23] <phoul> yeah
[12:23] <Allan> maybe that will work
[12:23] <r0xoR> phoul, snd-intel8x0
[12:23] <verdee> thanks biovore, now i'll try to force the old package
[12:23] <biovore> phoul: no hardware eq support on that chipset
[12:23] <phoul> damn...
[12:23] <_harm> polpak i reconfigured xorgr
[12:23] <r0xoR> i810 chipset... low end but it works
[12:23] <_harm> let met reboot
[12:23] <phoul> I really need to adjust it
[12:23] <_harm> phoul brb m8
[12:23] <phoul> Because im using a program without a equilizer
[12:23] <_harm> hopefully
[12:23] <r0xoR> phoul, go get yourself a Chaintech AV-710
[12:23] <biovore> verdee: you can always build using the current nvidia driver from there site
[12:23] <phoul> I dont have any income :(
[12:23] <r0xoR> phoul, for the price you can't get better sound quality
[12:24] <_harm> phoul = bum
[12:24] <r0xoR> phoul, chaintech av-710 is like super super cheap
[12:24] <phoul> no I = young
[12:24] <wolfie_> HymnToLife, do I replace username with a my own choice?
[12:24] <r0xoR> seriously cheap
[12:24] <phoul> lol
[12:24] <phoul> r0bby, how much
[12:24] <phoul> erg
[12:24] <r0xoR> phoul, no seriously... cheap
[12:24] <phoul> r0xoR, how much
[12:24] <verdee> biovore, ok, i try it now
[12:24] <r0xoR> phoul, froogle it
[12:24] <phoul> card again?
[12:24] <biovore> phoul: you will have to do software eq.. with kde use have alsa that has a software EQ.. don't know about gnome.. but esd should have a simular thing.
[12:24] <r0xoR> phoul, Chaintech AV-710
[12:24] <HymnToLife> wolfie_> a one that exists on your system
[12:24] <phoul> I use esd
[12:25] <r0xoR> phoul, uses the Envy24 chipset which is supported by the kernel so it works "out of the box"
[12:25] <SeaBrie> ah, hrm, I wonder
[12:25] <dxdemetriou> nekostar: It works. thanks for the help
[12:25] <phoul> But I dont see what that has to do witih it
[12:25] <khaladan> how come gnome-base is in universe?
[12:25] <r0xoR> phoul, super crisp clear quality... huge sound stage
[12:25] <Allan> r0xoR: the Chaintech AV-710 is about $32
[12:25] <SeaBrie> aha!
[12:25] <biovore> khaladan: it is?  (on brezzy?)
[12:25] <r0xoR> phoul, though it won't make your games run faster it will make them sound really good... and you're onubuntu anyway so my guess is that gaming is not your highest priority
[12:25] <SeaBrie> aptitude reinstall samba-common did it
[12:25] <SeaBrie> not just samba
[12:26] <r0xoR> Allan, aye, i thought it was somewhere around there, but i didn't wanna quote it
[12:26] <unreal_dr> hello all
[12:26] <Allan> good job
[12:26] <SeaBrie> thanks very much for the help :)
[12:26] <phoul> r0xoR, the only reason I want a equilizer is because I use mpd
[12:26] <unreal_dr> i have an issue with a computer freezing on me after 2 hours or so
[12:26] <phoul> And it dont have its own equilizer
[12:26] <SeaBrie> I have dapper running on a server here, btw
[12:26] <phoul> which kinda sucks
[12:26] <r0xoR> wutz mpd?
[12:26] <unreal_dr> i'm running dapper
[12:26] <SeaBrie> (ISTR reading somewhere that you were interested to hear such things)
[12:26] <wolfie_> HymnToLife, I enter sudo smbpasswd -a wolfie (being the account I'm on), but it shows the "Password:" but won't let me enter anything.
[12:26] <phoul> music player daemon
[12:26] <unreal_dr> error in syslog is: gdm[4108] : Master suspending...
[12:26] <unreal_dr> right before the crash
[12:26] <biovore> unreal_dr: this in linux only?
[12:27] <polpak> wolfie_, just type your password. it won't show anything but it still types
[12:27] <unreal_dr> biovore: linux only. dapper-only box
[12:27] <khaladan> well i had to include universe before apt-get install would work on gnome-base
[12:27] <khaladan> not sure why that would be
[12:27] <biovore> unreal_dr: hmm possible HW issue..  You can detected it if you build a custom kernel with extended debug.
[12:27] <phoul> r0xoR, every site I tried dont even cary anything by chaintech
[12:28] <polpak> phoul, www.pricewatch.com
[12:28] <_harm> back
[12:28] <unreal_dr> biovore: i built a kernel without preempt and with the kernel.org sources
[12:28] <unreal_dr> biovore: no patches
[12:28] <biovore> unreal_dr: 2.6.16?
[12:28] <biovore> what version?
[12:28] <unreal_dr> biovore: i'm guessing nvidia has something to do with it
[12:28] <biovore> unreal_dr: I have nvidia here.. no problems
[12:28] <unreal_dr> biovore: yes, 2.6.15 as well, since nvidia drivers don't compile with 2.6.16
[12:28] <brosioz> how can i get dhcp address from a dhcp server ? only with dhclient ?
[12:29] <_harm> polpak direct rendering: Yes
[12:29] <khaladan> i have a dual cpu machine, do i need to get a different kernel?
[12:29] <polpak> _harm, congratulations
[12:29] <teletubbie> what command to start epihany?
[12:29] <biovore> unreal_dr: theres a patch you make it work with 2.6.16
[12:29] <_harm> polpak sweet thanks m8
[12:29] <unreal_dr> biovore: this is a geforce mx 400
[12:29] <Howdy125> Chaintech .. http://www.google.com/search?q=Chaintech+AV-710&sa=Search&hl=en
[12:29] <unreal_dr> biovore: where is that patch?
[12:29] <_jason> teletubbie: epiphany
[12:29] <teletubbie> _jason: nope
[12:29] <biovore> unreal_dr: took me a while to find it..
[12:29] <r0xoR> phoul, just buy from the vendors on froogle
[12:29] <polpak> teletubbie, it is if you have it installed...
[12:29] <_jason> teletubbie: did you install it?
[12:29] <r0xoR> phoul, or pricewatch.com as the case may be
[12:29] <unreal_dr> biovore: perhaps 2.6.16.11 solves my problems
[12:29] <teletubbie> yes, I have it installed
[12:29] <r0xoR> phoul, do you live in the US?
[12:29] <teletubbie> try it plz
[12:29] <phoul> Nope
[12:30] <wolfie_> Cool, I think I have it working now... jut something wrong with some items.
[12:30] <teletubbie> it is not called epiphany
[12:30] <r0xoR> phoul, what is the function of mpd? is there anything else that has the same functionality?
[12:30] <_jason> teletubbie: did you install epiphany or epiphany-browser? (epiphany is a game)
[12:30] <biovore> I have 2.6.16.5 here install and it worked out of the box with the newest nvidia drivers
[12:30] <unreal_dr> biovore: i'm suspecting STR (acpi or so) has something to do with the crash
[12:30] <phoul> r0xoR, not that I know of
[12:30] <teletubbie> ahhh
[12:30] <teletubbie> I did apt-get install epiphany
[12:30] <phoul> And it runs music lol its the name tells all
[12:30] <biovore> unreal_dr: maybe.. or hardware over heating.
[12:30] <unreal_dr> biovore: ubuntu's sources for the drivers or nvidia.com ?
[12:31] <verdee> rebooting x, bye and thanks
[12:31] <phoul> ohh I have another question actually
[12:31] <r0xoR> phoul, what is it's functionality though?
[12:31] <phoul> Im having a small problem with compiz
[12:31] <biovore> unreal_dr: I use the stuff from nvidia..  I don't use the stuff on the ubuntu mirrors
[12:31] <unreal_dr> biovore: i enabled gkrellm with lm sensors to turn off the computer if it goes to 55C
[12:31] <polpak> phoul, you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:31] <Allan> !dpkg info compiz
[12:31] <ubotu> Allan: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:31] <unreal_dr> biovore: i'm sure is not over heating now
[12:31] <biovore> unreal_dr: what chipset and CPU?
[12:31] <green_earz> khaladan: you need to install the kernel image for your cpu type that as the   smp   extention for dual cpu
[12:31] <unreal_dr> biovore: umm... i'll use nvidia's drivers then
[12:32] <unreal_dr> biovore: intel chipset and p3 CPU
[12:32] <r0xoR> ok i see what mpd does... nice little app
[12:32] <r0xoR> phoul, get a better sound card... that's what you need
[12:32] <biovore> unreal_dr: you have to cripple some ubuntu automagical stuff to use it..  or esle the GLX gets messed up
[12:32] <r0xoR> phoul, an equalizer can't make up for bad sound hardware
[12:32] <phoul> uhh
[12:32] <unreal_dr> biovore: like?
[12:32] <phoul> It does for all the other sound things I use
[12:32] <biovore> unreal_dr: p3 shouldn't have any problems with a nvidia card.
[12:32] <r0xoR> this is rule number 1 in audio recording
[12:33] <phoul> r0xoR, the equilizer fixes stuff in audiacious
[12:33] <biovore> unreal_dr: you don't need to setup TLS links if you use the nvidia driver
[12:33] <phoul> :)
[12:33] <unreal_dr> biovore: i'll compile the driver with my own kernel then
[12:33] <r0xoR> phoul, mmmm... no, you might think it does... but it doesn't :)
[12:33] <phoul> well it makes it sound better
[12:33] <unreal_dr> biovore: TLS ? what's that
[12:33] <r0xoR> phoul, or at least it might alter it to the liking of your ears... but it's still no substitute for proper quality DACs
[12:33] <phoul> well its a nice thing to have if you have NO money
[12:34] <biovore> unreal_dr: its a thing the developers did to make it so the nvidia driver and the opensource drive can live together
[12:34] <biovore> just sets up symlink on the gl libs
[12:34] <r0xoR> phoul, my suggestion: learn to program, and learn to pipe mpd audio output through an equalizer program
[12:34] <unreal_dr> biovore: i forgot how to compile the nvidia driver... i've been using make-kpkg to make the module
[12:34] <MystaMax> has anyone setup vmware server beta on ubuntu?
[12:34] <r0xoR> phoul, tada
[12:34] <phoul> rotfl
[12:34] <biovore> unreal_dr: donwload it.. and run it..  sh ./NVIDIA ......
[12:34] <r0xoR> phoul, is something funny?
[12:34] <unreal_dr> biovore: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1.run <--- right?
[12:34] <phoul> yeah actually
[12:34] <biovore> unreal_dr: bingo
[12:34] <phoul> By the time I will be able to do that.... I will have a job I hope
[12:35] <unreal_dr> biovore: no need for --extract-only ?
[12:35] <r0xoR> phoul, mmmm naw... i learned to program damn well within about 2 years
[12:35] <biovore> unreal_dr: nope
[12:35] <r0xoR> phoul, i was 12 at the time
[12:35] <phoul> im 14
[12:35] <phoul> :p
[12:35] <r0xoR> phoul, and it took me 6 more years of being able to program REALLY well already before i got a job
[12:35] <Allan> SeaBrie: how do you do that thing in the irc room?
[12:35] <doubletwist> Anyone here any good with mdadm?
[12:35] <SeaBrie> what thing?
[12:35] <khaladan> what's the package name for Synaptic?
[12:35] <doubletwist> I'm trying to create a RAID 5 and it's REALLY starting to tick me off...
[12:35] <khaladan> "synaptic"?
[12:36] <Allan> khaladan:yes
[12:36] <r0xoR> phoul, it's never too early to start learning to program, and linux is a perfect place to start
[12:36] <biovore> doubletwist: I havn't messed with mdadm in a bit.. But I have a box that uses
[12:36] <unreal_dr> biovore: ok... let's see
[12:36] <r0xoR> phoul, plus you have a need and a real application for it
[12:36] <SeaBrie> Allan: you mean the "* SeaBrie does something"?
[12:36] <phoul> I used to program a little in c++ and python
[12:36] <Allan> SeaBrie: yes
[12:36] <SeaBrie> Allan: "/me does something"
[12:36] <phoul> But I kinda stopped on the account I really had nothing to do
[12:36] <johntr7> can any1 help with i/o lockup while using web browser (opera & konqueror & mozilla) on kde & gnome ?
[12:36] <doubletwist> Everytime I try to create the raid [/dev/md0]  with 5 drives, it keeps trying to use 4 drives and 1 spare. Even though I use --raid-devices=5 and --spare-devices=0
[12:36] <phoul> But im not good enough to make something like thast
[12:36] <r0xoR> phoul, well shiznitz bro... now you got something to do :)
[12:37] <SeaBrie> yeah, like that :)
[12:37] <Allan> yay thx
[12:37] <r0xoR> phoul, hahah, it's not much to make... just gotta learn about pipes and fifos and how linux does IPC
[12:37] <biovore> doubletwist: raid 5 is 4 drives and 1 redudent
[12:37] <SeaBrie> np, what goes around :)
[12:37] <phoul> r0xoR, you could make me one ;)
[12:37] <doubletwist> biovore No, RAID 5 is any number of drives greater than 3
[12:37] <SciOly> has anyone ever rebooted and had totally weird /sys behavior?
[12:37] <SeaBrie> rebooted?
[12:37] <doubletwist> biovore I know it uses redundant space, but it's setting up a hot-spare, which I DON"T want.
[12:37] <Allan> SeaBrie: also, how do you do smilies? Like this? :)
[12:37] <SeaBrie> why would you want to do that? :)
[12:37] <r0xoR> phoul, that's all it is... think of it like metaphorical/virtual patch cables that you use to send signals from your CD player to your stereo... except in this case it's from mpd to an equalizer program
[12:37] <Allan> lol
[12:37] <SeaBrie> Allan: yes, like that
[12:37] <r0xoR> phoul, you'd have to pay me way more than what that Chaintech costs bro :)
[12:38] <phoul> rotfl
[12:38] <biovore> doubletwist: RAID 5 is a hash check some..  a RAID 5 array of 5 drives of 250GB each would have a total usable space of 1TB  (not 1.25TB)
[12:38] <phoul> Expensive bastige!
[12:38] <phoul> :p
[12:38] <SciOly> SeaBrie, well... everything was fine, then I rebooted, and everything that depended on /sys...say mixer applet and cpufreq failed
[12:38] <r0xoR> phoul, and i already have a pro level sound card so i don't have a need for it
[12:38] <verdee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13002 i can't load the correct kernel module :/
[12:38] <Allan> How do I make a module load on startup
[12:38] <r0xoR> phoul, yes... which is why u should learn to program... so you can be an expensive bastige... w/ev tf a bastige is :P
[12:38] <doubletwist> biovore I know that. I'mt rying to say that it's loosing the space of TWO drives because it's trying to set one up as a hot-spare.
[12:38] <phoul> Its a nice word for bastard
[12:38] <phoul> :-\
[12:38] <phoul> lol
[12:39] <SeaBrie> Allan: add it to /etc/modules
[12:39] <biovore> doubletwist: ok, I get what your saying now..
[12:39] <SeaBrie> SciOly: hrm
[12:39] <r0xoR> phoul, naw i thought as much... anyway, the only thing stopping you from trying is yourself... and if you never try, you never know
[12:39] <biovore> doubletwist: didn't have that problem here..
[12:39] <Allan> thanks
[12:39] <doubletwist> biovore I haven't had this issue in the past either.
[12:39] <r0xoR> phoul, it *will* at least give you something to do
[12:39] <SeaBrie> SciOly: my instinct says it's something vaguely initrd related, but I couldn't be sure
[12:39] <SeaBrie> SciOly: did you recompile your kernel or anything?
[12:39] <doubletwist> biovore which is why this is driving me nuts! :)
[12:39] <phoul> r0xoR, what language would be best for this tho
[12:39] <SciOly> SeaBrie, no recompiling :(
[12:39] <phoul> like if you say c I might just have to throw something heavy in your general direction
[12:39] <phoul> :-\
[12:40] <r0xoR> phoul, hmmm, that's a good question... and honestly i don't think i'd be the best judge of that because I'd probably say C
[12:40] <biovore> doubletwist: I guess head for the mdadm FAQ and docs
[12:40] <phoul> lmao...
[12:40] <SeaBrie> SciOly: hmmm
[12:40] <r0xoR> phoul, but that's cuz most linux apps are done in C (some in C++) and the level at which you need to program (IPC) is mostly C related iirc
[12:41] <r0xoR> phoul, but you might be able to do it with anything, i'm just not sure what other languages have access to pipes and fifos etc
[12:41] <phoul> lol c it is
[12:41] <Howdy125> Whats the default browser and email program in ubuntu?
[12:41] <polpak> phoul, do you already know how to program?
[12:41] <SciOly> SeaBrie, this persists now if I reboot again... the directories are present in /sys, but if if I try to cat a file that would normally give me cpu speed, there is no file
[12:41] <phoul> now to remember how to you know do anything
[12:41] <phoul> not worth a damn in C
[12:41] <polpak> Howdy125, firefox and evolution
[12:41] <verdee> Howdy125, firefox and evolution
[12:41] <Howdy125> ty polpak  verdee
[12:41] <r0xoR> phoul, heheh, well two things... one i've got a good tutorial i think you could use to brush up/review on C
[12:41] <polpak> phoul, but you're familiar with programming in general?
[12:41] <phoul> I awalys wanted to learn to program lol
[12:41] <r0xoR> phoul, and go join #c
[12:41] <r0xoR> phoul, they'll help you a lot as long as you help yourself too
[12:42] <phoul> polpak, yeah
[12:42] <SeaBrie> SciOly: what's the output of mount?
[12:42] <phoul> does quickbasic count?
[12:42] <phoul> XD
[12:42] <phoul> kidding
[12:42] <SeaBrie> (specifically I'm looking for a line containgin "/sys") :)
[12:42] <r0xoR> phoul, actually join ##c not #c
[12:42] <SciOly> query SeaBrie
[12:42] <SeaBrie> #c#! :)
[12:42] <SeaBrie> SciOly: you'll be wanting a / :)
[12:42] <verdee> ehi guys, any ideas (i'm using 6.06)? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13002
[12:43] <SciOly> SeaBrie, it looks normal ( and proc and sysfs are mounted)
[12:43] <r0xoR> phoul, lemme go find you that C tutorial brb
[12:43] <nekostar> wow
[12:43] <nekostar> repositories really really bad
[12:43] <SeaBrie> SciOly: weird
[12:43] <SeaBrie> SciOly: what flavour of Ubuntu are you running?
[12:43] <nekostar> its either a ddos or isp limiting
[12:44] <nekostar> im betting on ddos
[12:44] <chop> im using Eterm in a dark background. unfortunately, the font colors are also dark. What can i do to make them brighter?
[12:44] <_harm> preferences? font colors?
[12:44] <SciOly> SeaBrie, breezy badger
[12:45] <SeaBrie> SciOly: hrm, got me a bit stumped there
[12:45] <SeaBrie> perhaps someone else on here has more sys-fu than me
[12:46] <SciOly> SeaBrie, yeah...me too, I noticed it immediately when I rebooted that pretty much everything in the gnome-panel that monitored anything failed
[12:46] <SeaBrie> SciOly: always fun :|
[12:49] <SeaBrie> SciOly: is this from a vanilla installation too?
[12:49] <SciOly> SeaBrie, hm, what exactly is vanilla?
[12:50] <SeaBrie> fresh
[12:50] <SeaBrie> unchanged
[12:50] <SeaBrie> that sort of thing :)
[12:51] <trainstroker> whats a place i can DL euphoric sounds from?
[12:51] <goonie> I have a problem with my netcards not being activated on boot. I have to activate them in networking manager after boot. Any ideas?
[12:51] <trainstroker> binaural
[12:51] <SciOly> SeaBrie, no...not exactly, I've had it running since about December, been messing around a bit, but haven't recompiled kernel and no serious changes from last time it worked to this time
[12:51] <SciOly> SeaBrie, I've also checked /var/log and can't see to have any documented failure/error, but gnome does complain
[12:51] <SeaBrie> nothing in dmesg?
[12:52] <SciOly> as far as I can tell, it's pretty normal
[12:52] <lsuactiafner> heh so how do i disable the macs to be broadcasted? am allowed 5 pcs on the wlan, but one of the pcs are connected to my desktop which is an entertainment pc
[12:52] <SeaBrie> very weird
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> and its mac should never go on the wlan even if i download an apt-get update
[12:53] <SeaBrie> lsuactiafner: sounds to me like you want your desktop to do some sort of NATing
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> dpkg files are synced to a server which is allowed on the wlan
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> i can do nat
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> i jsut need to ensure that my mac never goes on the wlan
[12:54] <SeaBrie> actually, you don't need to do nat
[12:54] <SeaBrie> just enable ip_forwarding on the desktop and configure routes accordingly
[12:54] <tim_> anyone know of a good tool in linux to join 2 movies (a full movie split into 2 parts merged back together again)
[12:55] <SeaBrie> the routing table on the wireless access point will just point at the desktop as the next hop for the other PC's IP
[12:55] <SciOly> SeaBrie, it's also weird that even though some things that depend on /sys are broke (i.e. mixer) I can still play sound fine
[12:55] <SeaBrie> SciOly: I can't find anything relating to the sys thing on google either :|
[12:55] <SeaBrie> (insert "with" where appropriate)
[12:55] <Klick_>  hey all, can anyone help me understand why this script when ran manualy wont drop me to a shell http://pastebin.com/685937
[12:56] <lsuactiafner> SeaBrie : i dont think so. i think when my entertainment pc does apt-get update the wlan admins will see a 6th mac address
[12:56] <SeaBrie> lsuactiafner: they shouldn't do.  The mac's only relevant for the final hop
[12:56] <SeaBrie> but I'm not going to put money on it :)
[12:56] <lsuactiafner> alright, will test it
[12:57] <thomas_> hi can anybody help me out with njb support?
[12:58] <pgregory> can anyone here help me get my wireless networking working again after a kernel recompile?
[12:58] <SciOly> SeaBrie, do you think updating the kernel would help restore /sys functionality?
[12:58] <SeaBrie> SciOly: it /might/
[12:58] <c|linux> hi I have just installed unbuntu for the first time... and cant sett my screen resolution higher than 1024*xxx   but my screen end graphic card(nvidia6600) suports 1280*1055 (wide screen) where can i configure the right resolution?
[12:58] <SciOly> SeaBrie, anywhere else I should look for help?
[12:59] <SeaBrie> SciOly: good question.  Truth be told I only appeared here about an hour ago to ask about samba ;)
[12:59] <thomas_> c|linux you need to reconfigure xorg
[12:59] <polpak> !tell c|linux about resolution
[12:59] <SeaBrie> SciOly: have you tweaked anything in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:00] <pgregory> it was all working fine from a clean install, but then I had to recompile the kernel as part of the "Getting suspend2 to work with nvidia drivers" HOWTO, and now I can't see my wireless card.
[01:00] <SeaBrie> pgregory: sounds like you might've not included the NIC driver in the kernel config then
[01:00] <SciOly> nope...I think the only thing I changed last time I wasi n linux was to install cpudynd for cpu frequency scaling -- this might be related because it does depend on /sys.../cpu0 but I don't see the connnection
[01:00] <SeaBrie> pgregory: what card is it?
[01:01] <SeaBrie> SciOly: I'd be quite worried if it broke /sys :)
[01:01] <pgregory> SeaBrie: ipw2200
[01:01] <SeaBrie> SciOly: are you just getting no such file errors?
[01:01] <SeaBrie> pgregory: oh dear god
[01:01] <SciOly> SeaBrie, yeah... but it's not even starting on reboot so I have no idea how it could
[01:01] <pgregory> during boot I'm getting the error cannot load firmware.
[01:02] <pgregory> SeaBrie: ??? something wrong with that card?
[01:02] <SeaBrie> pgregory: I've got one in my laptop
[01:02] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell c|linux about nvidia
[01:02] <SeaBrie> pgregory: they're, er, interesting
[01:02] <goonie> why won't my netcards activate automatically on boot? I have to activate them manually.... Plz help
[01:03] <pgregory> SeaBrie: it all worked before I had to rebuild the kernel, so I'm presuming it's something I've done wrong during configure.
[01:03] <SeaBrie> pgregory: there's an ipw2200 driver in the stock kernel I believe
[01:03] <[A] ndy80> hi
[01:03] <SeaBrie> though if it's complaining about firmware, it sounds like the driver's installed
[01:03] <SeaBrie> but the firmware files aren't where it expects them to be
[01:03] <SeaBrie> you can grab the latest firmware from ipw2200.sf.net
[01:04] <[A] ndy80> trying to dist-upgrade from ubuntu hoary to dapper, I get this error during installation of packages: http://pastebin.com/685946
[01:04] <[A] ndy80> how can I fix it?
[01:04] <pgregory> SeaBrie: any idea how to find out what it's looking for?
[01:04] <SeaBrie> and dump them into whatever directory it's supposed to be
[01:04] <SciOly> SeaBrie, I'm just trying to completely remove cpufreq and cpudyn...
[01:04] <thomas_> is there a help topic on njb?
[01:04] <SeaBrie> pgregory: off the top of my head, no.  There's a bunch of instructions at ipw2200.sf.net though I believe
[01:04] <junin> hi uys
[01:04] <SciOly> SeaBrie, but where shoudl I check for filesystem errors
[01:04] <pgregory> SeaBrie: any guess as to why they disappeared when I recompiled the kernel?
[01:05] <SeaBrie> SciOly: /var/log/syslog is my best guess
[01:05] <SeaBrie> pgregory: are they different kernel versions?
[01:05] <pgregory> no, don't think so.
[01:05] <pgregory> 2.6.12, on Ubuntu 5.10 stock.
[01:05] <SeaBrie> hrm, could be that the stock kernel was compiled using some other magic that you didn't include.
[01:06] <SciOly> SeaBrie, brb
[01:06] <SeaBrie> pgregory: either way, there're instructions on the ipw2200 page
[01:06] <phoul> how do I make mpd start on boot
[01:06] <phoul> ?
[01:06] <SeaBrie> phoul: make what start on boot?
[01:06] <phoul> mpd?
[01:06] <SoulPropagation> SeaBrie: mpd.
[01:07] <guerra> Hail all! can anyone inform me how do i upgrade to dapper teste version?
[01:07] <polpak> phoul, you can either add it to your bootmisc.sh file, or create a new startup file for it in /etc/init.d/
[01:07] <pgregory> SeaBrie: thanks, I'll look into it.
[01:07] <muep> guerra: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:07] <polpak> !tell guerra about upgrade
[01:07] <phoul> polpak, bootmisc.sh?
[01:07] <phoul> I think a new startup would mess up less if I made a error
[01:08] <polpak> phoul, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[01:08] <guerra> thanks
[01:08] <SeaBrie> is there not a nice fluffy option in, say, /etc/default/mpd to say run as a daemon or something? :)
[01:08] <Klohunt> What is the most compatible media player with firefox? mozilla-mplayer?
[01:08] <polpak> phoul, if it is intended to start when your computer boots up, it will generally have a startup script created in /etc/init.d already
[01:09] <SeaBrie> right, I'm going to have to sleep
[01:09] <SeaBrie> I need to be up soonish
[01:09] <thomas_> mozilla mplayer is the best option i've used.
[01:09] <phoul> wow
[01:09] <phoul> It is there
[01:09] <phoul> 0_0
[01:09] <asterism> wow
[01:09] <asterism> It is there
[01:10] <SeaBrie> g'night all
[01:10] <phoul> night
[01:12] <kimo> anyone used zimbra?? what's ur impression?
[01:13] <phoul> Hmmm
[01:13] <phoul> It didnt start but it is in there
[01:14] <miguelsr> hey sorry the azeureus couls i downlod by terminal or by the web?
[01:16] <Acidic> hello
[01:16] <Acidic> anyone able to help me.. im having a problem setting up proftp
[01:17] <DBO> sure, what is your problem?
[01:17] <Acidic> when i try to start it
[01:17] <Acidic> ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.
[01:18] <Acidic> i can't see anything wrong with the config
[01:18] <DBO> /etc/proftd.conf -> pastebin
[01:18] <Acidic> sorry, you want me to paste it all in here? :P
[01:18] <DBO> !pastebin
[01:18] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:18] <DBO> =)
[01:19] <raptros-v76> !help
[01:19] <Acidic> hmm haven't seen this before
[01:19] <DBO> what do you need raptros-v76 ?
[01:19] <unreal_dr> biovore: there doesn't seem to be a way to turn off /usr/sbin/pmi, which is called when gdm goes in suspend mode
[01:19] <trainstroker> binaural
[01:19] <trainstroker> binaural
[01:19] <trainstroker> whats a place i can DL euphoric sounds from?
[01:19] <lior> hi can anyone help me configure a vpn client?
[01:19] <foolip> how can I downgrade a custom package I've installed myself (libcdparanoia0 3a9.8-11+foolip0) to the version in breezy? I've tried aptitude -t breezy install libcdparanoia0, without success
[01:19] <raptros-v76> no, im just trying to figure out how ubotu works
[01:19] <SoulPropagation> Ok, I just did a fresh install of 5.10 on my computer. When I boot into it (after screwing with the grub commands) I get to the "uncompressing...booting" part, then I get 10 segfaults, a circular dependancy, and a "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[01:19] <minerale> How can I search for currently intalled packages using apt-* ?
[01:20] <unreal_dr> biovore: i'll reboot and see how it goes
[01:20] <lior> any vpn hero?
[01:20] <foolip> minerale, dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[01:20] <Acidic> DBO
[01:20] <Acidic> Do you want Acidic as the name?
[01:21] <lior> hi
[01:21] <DBO> Acidic, no, just pate the link in here when you have it up
[01:21] <Acidic> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13003
[01:22] <lior> HEY ANYONE CAN HELP ME?
[01:22] <farruinn> Why can't ubuntu discover wireless networks automatically? (I always have to know the essid beforehand)
[01:22] <lior> PLEEEASE
[01:22] <farruinn> !ask
[01:22] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[01:22] <SoulPropagation> What should I do?
[01:22] <DBO> Acidic, change inetd to standalone
[01:23] <lior> I'm willing to connect my vpn network at work
[01:23] <Acidic> DBO: Ok, why would that fix the problem.. is it cuz im running from CLI?
[01:23] <lior> and i never configured a vpn client on libux
[01:23] <shujin> anyone around that knows anything about palm devices?
[01:23] <DBO> Acidic, because inetd sucks for FTP?
[01:23] <Acidic> heh
[01:23] <lior> how do i configure vpn client on linux
[01:24] <Acidic> it starts now
[01:24] <Acidic> ty
[01:24] <DBO> np
[01:24] <lior> do i do it using ipsec?
[01:24] <DBO> do you have a VPN server already?
[01:24] <lior> hmm should i?
[01:24] <Acidic> DBO: Is the ftp directory specified somewhere? Because i dont remember seeing it in the .conf file
[01:24] <ompaul> lior, no, do this, http://openvpn.net/howto.html
[01:25] <lior> ok ompaul
[01:25] <Acidic> DBO : or is it the users home directory
[01:25] <lior> i will read and come back with questions
[01:25] <SoulPropagation> Anyone? =\
[01:25] <SciOly> Anyone know what could cause funny /sys behavior on reboot? :-\
[01:25] <ompaul> lior, no I will give you the additional information you need now
[01:25] <lior> ok
[01:25] <lior> go ahead
[01:25] <DBO> Acidic, I believe there is a DefaultRoot operator you can add in there to specify that
[01:25] <SoulPropagation> hey ompaul, you're smart, maybe you know!
[01:25] <DBO> you SHOULD set that to ~
[01:25] <SoulPropagation> Ok, I just did a fresh install of 5.10 on my computer. When I boot into it (after screwing with the grub commands) I get to the "uncompressing...booting" part, then I get 10 segfaults, a circular dependancy, and a "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[01:26] <Acidic> ok i think i remember that in the guide
[01:26] <lior> i just got a p12 file from my admin
[01:26] <Acidic> thankee
[01:26] <ompaul> lior, you need to get what are called the universe repos, I will have the bot send you the instructions on how to do that
[01:26] <bienlein> why
[01:27] <polpak> wb tonyyarusso  =)
[01:27] <farruinn> SoulPropagation: There may be a solution, but if it were me I'd just start over :/
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> Hey.
[01:28] <ompaul> lior, install the program using the synaptic package manager to - Menu: System -> Administration -> Snaptic, you should enjoy one of the best programs I ever had the pleasure to work with now :)
[01:28] <bienlein> why
[01:28] <HymnToLife> ompaul> ie ?
[01:28] <lior> once i will do that whats next?
[01:29] <ColD_7> i am wondering when will the official 6.06 come out
[01:29] <shujin> hmmm, no palm love in the room then...
[01:29] <bienlein> why
[01:29] <ColD_7> may is coming soon
[01:29] <ompaul> SoulPropagation, I have to agree with farruinn on that, I suggest however you only install the server version, as the machine starts to boot it pauses - do server and work from there
[01:29] <Corvix> cold: june? .06
[01:29] <HymnToLife> ColD_7> june 1st
[01:29] <HymnToLife> thus the number 6.06 eh
[01:29] <bienlein> why
[01:29] <ompaul> HymnToLife, it is not a web browser :-)
[01:29] <SoulPropagation> ompaul: couldn't hurt. I usually do that but this is a production machine ;)
[01:30] <ColD_7> oh, thanks
[01:30] <MilesPrower> Trying to get a Bluetooth mouse to work on a Dapper 6 fresh install + dist-upgraded, any clue?
[01:30] <ompaul> SoulPropagation, well then - live CD rescue data - reformat and run it
[01:30] <HymnToLife> ompaul> I asked what the program were, i.e. for the latin "Id est" :)
[01:30] <bienlein> why
[01:30] <charzero> Is there a way to tell dpkg that I installed something in /usr/local or /opt, and not to try to install the corresponding package when it is a dependency for something else?
[01:30] <HymnToLife> not the Interweb Exploder
[01:30] <SciOly> what program can tell me what's using a file systemw hen I try to unmount it?
[01:30] <ompaul> HymnToLife, sorry did not notice :-) thjought you were talking about a top level domain location
[01:31] <bienlein> why
[01:31] <SoulPropagation> ompaul: Fresh install :-p
[01:31] <farruinn> charzero: Not really... the best way to make dpkg aware of installed software is to install debs
[01:31] <bienlein> why
[01:31] <unreal_dr> biovore: the nvidia installer is nice. i've never used it
[01:31] <HymnToLife> damn
[01:31] <ompaul> SoulPropagation,  and only do the server part first
[01:31] <ompaul> HymnToLife, OpenVPN
[01:31] <unreal_dr> biovore: and it compiled the kernel module for 2.6.16 without a hiccup
[01:31] <TheOmnipotentWan> ls
[01:31] <TheOmnipotentWan> Oh man...
[01:31] <HymnToLife> bienlein> could you please stop repeating "why" over and over again ?
[01:32] <TheOmnipotentWan> That's really becoming a habit.
[01:32] <bienlein> no
[01:32] <unreal_dr> biovore: now nautilus is crashing...
[01:32] <SoulPropagation> ompaul: Yep, I got it ;)
[01:32] <HymnToLife> !ops
[01:32] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:32] <Hobbsee> HymnToLife: ?
[01:32] <charzero> farruinn: hmm. thats going to become a pain very quickly.
[01:32] <nalioth> HymnToLife: yes?
[01:32] <ompaul> I got it
[01:32] <HymnToLife> check out bienlein's last messages :p
[01:32] <bienlein> why should he
[01:32] <apokryphos> =)
[01:32] <lior> ompaul i'm back
[01:33] <arrick> Evening all
[01:33] <lior> i updated my repositories
[01:33] <eddie_stone> how to install jude?
[01:33] <lior> whats next?
[01:33] <ompaul> lior, you install openvpn using synaptic and then you go by the faq
[01:34] <lior> i did it already
[01:34] <lior> i have openvpn installed
[01:34] <lior> i also installed kvpnc util
[01:34] <lior> that seems to be some kind of a gui for this util
[01:34] <lior> but i couldn't put it to work
[01:35] <bienlein> why
[01:35] <ompaul> lior, do it like it says in the faq
[01:35] <lior> ok trying again
[01:35] <ompaul> some people
[01:36] <ompaul> lior that FAQ will take you through using openVPN from start to finsih
[01:36] <MilesPrower> Trying to get a Bluetooth mouse to work on a Dapper 6, any clue?
[01:37] <ompaul> lior it takes a little planning but all the info is there
[01:37] <lior> ok
[01:37] <lior> one last question
[01:37] <charzero> farruinn: is use of "equivs" discouraged?
[01:37] <unreal_dr> biovore: and that's the issue... the keyboard buttons for Sleep, Wake Up and Power
[01:37] <lior> if i'm trying to connect a checkpoint vpn server
[01:37] <lior> would openvpn will do the work as well
[01:37] <marco_> hi what is the command for reset cups
[01:38] <ompaul> lior, that is outside of the scope of my knowledge, however you can vpn beyond the checkpoint using openvpn
[01:38] <bimberi> marco_: sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart
[01:38] <lior> ok i really apriciate your help
[01:38] <watson540> hello guys, this may sound like a stupid question for some, but as many years as i've used linux i still dont know how to un-install a program that i ghacve sompiled form source!!
[01:38] <lior> trying to digin
[01:38] <polpak> watson540, that depends on where you put it..
[01:38] <watson540> make clean just removed the files that were used in comiling i believe but it doesn't remove the bunariuy and libs
[01:39] <polpak> watson540, there isn't an easy answer unfortunately
[01:39] <watson540> im only doing this because all of a sudden out of the blue 'unrar' and unrar-free' wont unraer the rar file si need , and i know they are good files
[01:39] <TheOmnipotentWan> I'm led to believe that you pretty much have to find the files and delete them yourself.
[01:39] <ompaul> watson540, it depends on the instructions in the make file, I point you to checkinstall
[01:39] <tritium> watson540: that, in part, is why package management systems exist
[01:39] <watson540> ok, understood
[01:39] <polpak> watson540, generally when I compile from source I tell it to install everything to a particular directory in /opt that way I know where everything is
[01:39] <bimberi> watson540: if 'make install' was part of the process then 'make uninstall' might work
[01:39] <ompaul> watson540, assuming as tritium said :-)
 thanks
[01:40] <watson540> i would have installed unrar (non-free) from apt but i dont have that repo in my sources.list and dunno which repo non-free is
[01:40] <watson540> but thanks anyway :0
[01:40] <farruinn> charzero: I think equivs is the tool for cases like yours
[01:40] <TheOmnipotentWan> Non-free is the universe repo, I believe.
[01:40] <farruinn> charzero: I don't have much experience with it though
[01:40] <HymnToLife> watson540> search the wiki for it then :)
[01:40] <bimberi> no, multiverse and restricted are non-free
[01:41] <TheOmnipotentWan> Ah.
[01:41] <bimberi> !components
[01:41] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[01:41] <shujin> Anyone have a syncing palm working in breezy?
[01:41] <arrick> whazzup bimberi
[01:41] <bimberi> hey arrick
[01:41] <amphi> watson540: where do you guys find all these rar files? I've never had to deal with one ;)
[01:41] <mzuverink> I would like a program(s) to go and get my email from gmail and then run it through spamassassin. I would then like it to store the mail locally. I would then like to get my mail from the local box and further process it via thunderbird or whatever.  What would I need to acheice this?  I need the programs to be available via an Ubuntu mirror. Or if you know of a nice How-to which would anser my question that would be great.
[01:41] <arrick> hey you heard from IdleOne lately bimberi ?
[01:42] <ompaul> TheOmnipotentWan, no its in multiverse
[01:42] <bimberi> arrick: no
[01:42] <watson540> ook thank you i will look into it
[01:42] <farruinn> charzero: checkinstall might help too
[01:42] <bimberi> !info unrar-nonfree
[01:42] <arrick> bimberi, man this has been a long move, from alabama to philly, now its been 2 months
[01:42] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[01:43] <arrick> ouch
[01:44] <ompaul> ohh no its spike :)
[01:44] <spike> any op around? is it possible to get the ban for tor nodes removed please?
[01:44] <tritium> no, spike
[01:44] <amphi> mzuverink: I use fetchmail to get mail from gmail
[01:44] <ompaul> spike that won't happen
[01:44] <spike> k
[01:44] <allheroesfall> hi everyone
[01:44] <mzuverink> amphi: where does fetchmail put your mail then?
[01:45] <Simulacra> hello
[01:45] <amphi> mzuverink: /var/mail/$USER
[01:45] <amphi> mzuverink: well, it throws it at postfix for that
[01:45] <allheroesfall> i am wondering how I can make my swap smaller then add the extra space to my main drive
[01:46] <mzuverink> amphi:do you know if that mail area is readable through like squirrelmail or any other web based email clients?
[01:46] <amphi> mzuverink: I use mutt as an MUA, and that reads the spool file directly
[01:46] <miguelsr> oigan porque en la terminal le pongo cd azureus y me sale bash: cd: azureus: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[01:47] <r0xoR> anyone know how to do multiple GDM logins?
[01:47] <mzuverink> amphi:I would like to throw in a web based email client to get my mail remotely
[01:47] <amphi> mzuverink: dunno, never set up a webmail; perhaps you need to run an imap server for that
[01:47] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone solve my dilemma? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167026 I am willing to act as a surrogate mother, despite my gender
[01:47] <_jason> r0xoR: system tools > new login
[01:47] <r0xoR> there's gotta be a way to let someone else hop onto their account to check email or something without closing out my session
[01:47] <mzuverink> amphi: I think so
[01:47] <Simulacra> r0xoR: what do you mean by multiple?
[01:47] <amphi> mzuverink: why not either ssh and use mutt remotely, or run a pop3d/imapd ?
[01:47] <Simulacra> ah someone already got you
[01:47] <mzuverink> I think i am biting off too much
[01:48] <dark_fibre> does anybody here know how to setup boot from lan?
[01:48] <amphi> mzuverink: you'll probably find a howto for all this at tldp.org
[01:48] <bimberi> r0xoR: Applications -> System Tools -> New Login
[01:48] <allheroesfall> i am wondering how I can make my swap smaller then add the extra space to my main drive
[01:48] <bimberi> gah, missed it too
[01:48] <cafuego> mzuverink: Ane asy start would be to install uw-imapd. That will give you access to mail in /var/mail/ and stuff in ~/mbox or ~/Mail
[01:49] <mzuverink> amphi: that is an option too, my mom is just a big webmail fan but needs a good spam filtering aswell. She is afraid of anything but web based email. She is close to 75 and teaching an old dog new trick is sometimes very difficult
[01:50] <cafuego> mzuverink: squirrelmail always runs fine on `localhost' too ;-)
[01:50] <amphi> mzuverink: uhuh - then you must go with webmail ;)
[01:50] <r0xoR> ok so then after i've done "new login" how do i switch back to my current login without logging out of the "new login"
[01:51] <mzuverink> cafuego: using synaptic I selected squirrelmail and none of the dependencies are related to mail at all, php stuff and the like only
[01:51] <allheroesfall> i am wondering how I can make my swap smaller then add the extra space to my main drive
[01:51] <monomaniacpat> *pimp*  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167026 *pimp* -- ANYONE?
[01:51] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, sup
[01:51] <mzuverink> cafuego: and of course apache2
[01:52] <cafuego> mzuverink: Yep
[01:52] <unreal_dr> nautilus is dead
[01:52] <cafuego> mzuverink: squirrelmail doesn't *need* a local imap server (you can make it talk to any imap server, anywhere) so it woulnd't install one.
[01:52] <unreal_dr> keeps restarting
[01:52] <mzuverink> cafuego: How hard is it to configure squirrelmail, have you done it before?
[01:52] <cafuego> !forums 167026
[01:53] <mythicness> could someone please help me
[01:53] <mythicness> I need to install XDriver and am completely lost http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:XDriver
[01:53] <cafuego> mzuverink: It's *really* easy. It comes with a little perl script that just displays menus (text-based)
[01:53] <ssam> are the forums down?
[01:54] <TheOmnipotentWan> Seem to be.
[01:54] <ssam> maybe 100,000 users is just too many
[01:54] <cafuego> ssam: it would seem that way.
[01:54] <cafuego> Luckily the wiki lives.
[01:54] <SoulPropagation> ssam: ?
[01:54] <ssam> SoulPropagation, hi
[01:54] <mzuverink> cafuego: Since I need to get the mail from gmail for all users, fetchmail passes it off to postfix, and then will postfix place it in whatever type of folder/dir i specify?
[01:55] <mythicness> i have configured my xorg.conf
[01:55] <ssam> SoulPropagation, were you having mac problems earlier
[01:55] <mythicness> but i dont know how to install the actual driver
[01:55] <cafuego> mzuverink: By default, postfix delivers it to an mbox format mail file in /var/mail
[01:55] <mythicness> should i use dpkg or just normal make / make file ?
[01:55] <cafuego> mzuverink: If you install uw-imap, it can read those mail stores and interface with squirrelmail.
[01:55] <ssam> cafuego, we need a "ubuntu is full, no more users please" sign
[01:57] <mzuverink> cafeugo: are you gonna be around in like an hour and a half?  i need to go away for a bit, and i would like to be able to ask you a few more questions before i do this.
[01:57] <DBO> ssam, meh, we havnt even topped 700 yet
[01:57] <the_guy1> I want to upgrade from breezy to dapper but everytime i do it freezes when I select my US keyboard
[01:57] <ompaul> allheroesfall, I am not aware of anyone doing that, if you were to I would suggest just making the room available with a livecd using gparted for the repartioning not killing off the swap altogether remember the swap has to be on the same partition as it was before or you have to mount the drive and change /etc/fstab on the installed drive by hand - when done you have to then ad the space to the primary partition, however this seems like too much ef
[01:57] <ompaul> fort for very little gain, what size is your hard drive your linux space and your swap and is there anything else on the drive, also how much data have you got in /home
[01:58] <nickrud> mythicness, have you seen http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu
[01:58] <fwp> hi
[01:58] <fwp> I installed ubuntu and I enabled root to login
[01:58] <ompaul> !root
[01:58] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:58] <fwp> but it doesn't look like i've got access to do anything
[01:58] <mythicness> ill take a look thanks nickrud
[01:58] <fwp> when I login as root
[01:58] <monomaniacpat> I'm a desperate young maiden in dire need of some help
[01:58] <DBO> ok, whats the problem maiden?
[01:58] <fwp> monomaniacpat: yes, but are you a hot desperate young maiden?
[01:58] <ompaul> fwp that link ^^^ up a few lines that will tell you how to remove that access and deal with not having root
[01:58] <BlueSwirl> let down your hair, that'll solve it
[01:58] <monomaniacpat> my mum tells me so
[01:58] <allheroesfall> ompaul, i know how to use gparted i just don't know how to add the free space to my main partition
[01:59] <seraphim> yet more important...a female maiden?
[01:59] <lsuactiafner> desperate for a hot young maiden...
[01:59] <DBO> monomaniacpat, problem
[01:59] <monomaniacpat> I was following these guidelines.
[01:59] <mythicness> nickrud: that is ivtv, not the Xdriver
[01:59] <monomaniacpat> http://www.cwelug.org/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi?Wpc11v4#source
[02:00] <nickrud> mythicness, sorry, I just followed a howto link in their wiki
[02:00] <ompaul> allheroesfall, no idea if anyone ever did that was not on lvm
[02:00] <ssam> forums are back
[02:00] <DBO> monomaniacpat, ok, so erm, well done?  whats the issue?
[02:01] <HymnToLife> DBO> it's not working XD
[02:01] <DBO> yes, that much I gathered, but I wonder where
[02:01] <Determinist> ok, what have they done to xchat?!?
[02:01] <DBO> you see, my crastal ball is in a state of disrepair =P
[02:01] <monomaniacpat> sudo pump -i wlan0
[02:01] <monomaniacpat> Operation failed.
[02:01] <allheroesfall> ompaul, doesn't ubuntu use lvm ?
[02:01] <ompaul> allheroesfall, not unless you enabled it
[02:02] <HymnToLife> DBO> crystal balls suck, I use penguins guts :p
[02:02] <monomaniacpat> right near the end before pinging
[02:02] <allheroesfall> ompaul, and that when you first install it   right?>
[02:03] <DBO> monomaniacpat, "ifconfig" then post the results to pastebin
[02:03] <DBO> !paste
[02:03] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[02:03] <DBO> (for your linking pleasure)
[02:03] <ompaul> allheroesfall, that is when I would use it, never tried converting stuff after (I imagine that it could be done but the phrase too much grief comes to mind)
[02:04] <mythicness> how do i find the path to X source?
[02:04] <fwp> ompaul
[02:04] <fwp> I can't do anything on this system
[02:04] <fwp> can't access network settings
[02:04] <j1p> Hey, i tried to compile the newest stable kernel from kernel.org (2.6.16.11), and ended up failing on booting, I got this output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13005, then got thrown to a busy box ash shell, im assuming i didnt configure the module for my XFS partitions(/ and /home) correctly, but im not sure
[02:04] <fwp> etc
[02:04] <monomaniacpat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13006
[02:04] <Determinist> damnit, they've ruined my beloved X-chat :/
[02:05] <HymnToLife> Determinist> what's wron with Xchat ?
[02:05] <ompaul> fwp, you have done something totally none standard, is the user you are logged on with the initial user you created?
[02:05] <monomaniacpat> I had it up a minute ago with wlan0 - that might have been through the network connections gui
[02:05] <fwp> oaimage: yea
[02:05] <fwp> ompaul: yeah
[02:05] <Determinist> HymnToLife: did you see the new xchat on dapper beta?
[02:05] <HymnToLife> nopethat's why I'm sking ;)
[02:05] <HymnToLife> asking*
[02:05] <ompaul> fwp, got a terminal open?
[02:06] <Determinist> HymnToLife: you really dont want to :/
[02:06] <fwp> ompaul, yep
[02:06] <DBO> monomaniacpat, yeah, I see your problem now, "ifconfig wlan0 up"
[02:06] <mythicness> how do i find the path to X source?
[02:06] <iuso-voted> can anyone tell me what those VIO modules are in 90-modprobe.rules ?
[02:06] <jobezone> mythicness: how did you install the source of X?
[02:06] <ompaul> fwp, run this and give me the result please     >>> sudo id <<< and don't include the <> parts :)
[02:06] <HymnToLife> Determinist> souce compiling fun to go then I guess
[02:07] <fwp> uid=0(root)
[02:07] <fwp> etc
[02:07] <HymnToLife> it's been ages since I didn't compile anything
[02:07] <amphi> HymnToLife: you are compiling continuously?
[02:07] <eddie_stone> does anyone knows how to install jude?
[02:07] <Determinist> HymnToLife: less features, alot of annoying defaults, layout changed and not for the better.
[02:07] <TI_Uhl> hello
[02:07] <monomaniacpat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13007 OK, there it is again, no change in circumstances
[02:07] <HymnToLife> except VLC since the Ubuntu build sucks
[02:08] <HymnToLife> less features.. Seems Linus was kind of right
[02:08] <DBO> monomaniacpat, you didnt do anything to cause it to suddenly show up?
[02:08] <bimberi> Determinist: xchat or schat-gnome?
[02:08] <TI_Uhl> does anyone know where i can get help setting up my pinnacle pctv stereo card ? i can't get it to work and it seems like there is little or no help on the forum or google ?
[02:08] <bimberi> *xchat-gnome
[02:08] <ompaul> fwp, so it appears that sudo can do stuff - please do this >>gksudo disks-admin<< see what happens
[02:08] <ompaul> fwp, the password it wants is the user fwp
[02:09] <monomaniacpat> no, Sorry, look at the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13007 - wlan is there again, but I still get operation failed
[02:09] <Determinist> bimberi: i have no idea really, it said xchat when i installed it. wasnt installed by default
[02:09] <mythicness> when i run make it returns:
[02:09] <mythicness> Run xmkmf /PATH_TO_X_SOURCE/
[02:09] <mythicness> can someone please tell me what to do?
[02:09] <Determinist> bimberi: wait, it says xchat-gnome 0.11 in the about box, does that mean there's still hope? :D
[02:09] <fwp> ompaul
[02:09] <_jason> mythicness: what are you compiling?
[02:09] <HymnToLife> mythicness> are you actually trying to compile X ?
[02:09] <fwp> it says command not found
[02:09] <fwp> disks-admin
[02:09] <fwp> ?
[02:10] <fwp> gksudo disks-admin
[02:10] <fwp> I did
[02:10] <TI_Uhl> does anyone know where i can get help setting up my pinnacle pctv stereo card ? i can't get it to work and it seems like there is little or no help on the forum or google ? anyone ?
[02:10] <DBO> monomaniacpat, try giving it a static IP
[02:10] <bimberi> Determinist: kk - most likely xchat then (which i haven't looked at)
[02:10] <_jason> fwp: are you running gnome?
[02:10] <jobezone> mythicness: by default you don't have the source code of programs in your disk.
[02:10] <mythicness> I am compiling IVTV's Xdriver
[02:10] <eddie_stone> jude
[02:10] <monomaniacpat> how do I go about doing that?
[02:10] <fwp> _jason: yes... I assume so... default install
[02:10] <ompaul> fwp, what did you install, please put all your items for me on one line? and are you running gnome brown desktop :)
[02:10] <fwp> i'm running ubuntu 5.10
[02:11] <ompaul> fwp, did you try to use any particular software to help your machine?
[02:11] <fwp> ?
[02:11] <fwp> no
[02:11] <fwp> but something failed in the install it said
[02:11] <DBO> monomaniacpat, "ifconifg wlan0 <ip>"
[02:11] <Determinist> my beloved xchat is back :)
[02:11] <mythicness> wow i am so lost
[02:11] <mythicness> grrr
[02:11] <ompaul> fwp, stop using the enter key, in the place of a comma, its very annoying and hard to follow
[02:11] <mythicness> spent 6 hours trying to get output going on my tv card so annoying
[02:11] <fwp> ok...
[02:12] <Determinist> phew, there's still the good old xchat here
[02:12] <ompaul> fwp, so it did not install correctly
[02:12] <HymnToLife> ompaul> you know, !enter kind of works ;)
[02:12] <HymnToLife> !enter
[02:12] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[02:12] <monomaniacpat> patrick@ubuntu:~$ ifconifg wlan0 <192.168.1.1>
[02:12] <monomaniacpat> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[02:12] <_jason> mythicness: from what you pasted, it seems to jsut be isntructions to run a command
[02:12] <monomaniacpat> --?
[02:12] <j1p> guys I think my initrd/init scripts aren't working right, i just compiled a the newest kernel, but booting into it i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13005, any help?
[02:12] <_jason> monomaniacpat: I doubt you use <>
[02:12] <HymnToLife> monomaniacpat> without the ><
[02:12] <DBO> monomaniacpat, no <>
[02:12] <raptros-v76> Determinist: so you thought they screwed up xchat
[02:12] <DBO> oops, thanks guys!
[02:12] <jobezone> mythicness: to get the source of X, enter the directory where you want your source to be, and do 'apt-get source xserver-xorg'
[02:13] <monomaniacpat> patrick@ubuntu:~$ ifconifg wlan0 192.168.1.1
[02:13] <monomaniacpat> bash: ifconifg: command not found
[02:13] <DBO> you have a typo in ifconfig
[02:13] <harisund> monomaniacpat: What are you trying here? To connect your wireless to an essid? I think you should be using iwconfig instead of ifconfig here.
[02:13] <monomaniacpat> heh!
[02:13] <mythicness> all i need to know is /PATH_TO_X_SOURCE
[02:13] <Determinist> raptros-v76, well, yeah, you install the beta, open up what you know is xchat by the gnome menu and wham lol
[02:13] <mythicness> howcome thats so difficult?
[02:13] <ompaul> fwp, so it did not install correctly, was that an application or the actual install
[02:13] <fwp> ompaul, what do you suggest I do? it was a package
[02:13] <mythicness> oh ok
[02:13] <jobezone> mythicness: right, but for that you'll need to get the X SOURCE, the source code of X.
[02:13] <mythicness> thanks
[02:13] <mythicness> ill do that
[02:13] <HymnToLife> Determinist> gotta try it
[02:13] <DBO> harisund, no, she wants an IP from what I can tell... or at least thats what her walkthrough wants, I just blindly give what they want
[02:13] <ompaul> fwp, what package?
[02:13] <HymnToLife> will be great to make fun of GNOME
[02:14] <fwp> ompaul: can't remember...
[02:14] <ompaul> fwp, did you use the command line?
[02:14] <harisund> DBO: She wants an ip from where? if it is from an access point, dhclient should be used. Or are we talking static IP here?
[02:14] <jobezone> mythicness: create a temp directory,, and do the command I told you above.
[02:14] <monomaniacpat> Should this correct the prob - still getting operation failed
[02:14] <fwp> I did gksudo disks-admin
[02:14] <monomaniacpat> patrick@ubuntu:~$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.1
[02:14] <monomaniacpat> patrick@ubuntu:~$ sudo pump -k
[02:14] <monomaniacpat> patrick@ubuntu:~$ sudo pump -i wlan0
[02:14] <DBO> harisund, I think her NDISwrapper is fubared
[02:15] <scorchsaber> Hey, I'm having troubles with Java. Now, don't laugh, I want to play runescape :). Silly, but I've got the urge to. This has highlighted some problem: Java actually doesn't work with it--It loads a bit of the way through (maybe even getting into the game screen) but then just freezes. Do I need a newer version than 1.4 provided with Ubuntu?
[02:15] <DBO> but Im a NDIS n00b, you go ahead and take over
[02:15] <ompaul> monomaniacpat, STOP pasting we have paste.ubuntu-nl.org for that, thanks
[02:15] <harisund> DBO: oh ok. So what is your suggested fix?
[02:15] <monomaniacpat> OK
[02:15] <biovore> DBO: ndis emulated the windows kernel.. of course its fubared :-P
[02:15] <unreal_dr> biovore: lol
[02:15] <unreal_dr> biovore: good one
[02:15] <scorchsaber> One other thing: I'm trying to use Mozilla 1.5, which I just installed--not sure if thats the problem or not.
[02:16] <harisund> monomanicpat: Ok let's see what we have got. Do you have the patience to go over everything again?
[02:16] <DBO> harisund, I want to try giving her an entirely static assignment.  ESSID, Netmask, IP, the works
[02:16] <scorchsaber> Should I go to Java.com and install theirs somehow?
[02:16] <biovore> !java
[02:16] <HymnToLife> !tell scorchsaber about ff1.5
[02:16] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:16] <monomaniacpat> I guess so
[02:16] <zzz_> I can't print to a file in firefox.If i do it ,firefox will force close.Why?
[02:16] <jobezone> scorchsaber: and install the 'SUN java' mentioned in that ubuntu link.
[02:16] <monomaniacpat> here goes
[02:16] <harisund> DBO: I doubt static connection will work with a wireless access point. Have you ever tried it before? I was informed by someone static is only for wired ethernet. OF course I wcould be wrong.
[02:16] <fwp> ompaul: it says bash: command not found
[02:17] <DBO> harisund, you would be wrong
[02:17] <zzz_> Anybody has ideas about this
[02:17] <DBO> harisund, done it before many times
[02:17] <HymnToLife> fwp> which command ?
[02:17] <ompaul> fwp, when did you do the install?
[02:17] <scorchsaber> Hymtolife, I already HAVE firefox 1.5
[02:17] <fwp> about 3 hours ago
[02:17] <harisund> DBO: Oh glad to hear that. So in that case, what wireless access point would the card be associated with?
[02:17] <fwp> HymnToLife, gksudo disks-admin
[02:17] <harisund> Something that is forced through the interfaces file?
[02:17] <HymnToLife> hmm
[02:17] <scorchsaber> friggin eh...
[02:17] <HymnToLife> are you using GNOME ?
[02:17] <fwp> yes
[02:18] <HymnToLife> now THAT's weird
[02:18] <_jason> fwp: apt-cache policy gnome-system-tools | grep -i Installed
[02:18] <ompaul> HymnToLife, no bash could not find it - and they have gnome and enabled root - and who knows what else
[02:18] <DBO> harisund, you have to set the ESSID with iwconfig, and then set the ip and netmask with ifconfig
[02:18] <DBO> I dont need to set it permenantly, just temporarly
[02:18] <harisund> Ah ! Interesting. Now that's something I have never tried before.
[02:18] <__mikem> I always enable root, you never know when you need to repair your file system as I found out when I was on a trip a while ago
[02:19] <DBO> ...are you mocking me?
[02:19] <ompaul> fwp, okay, if I was handed your machine right now on my bench I would forget about the install, I would reinstall, and this time read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo and don't enable root then come in here for help
[02:19] <harisund> DBO: But the thing is, monomaniacpat can't be using pump then, right?
[02:19] <jobezone> mythicness: has it downloaded the source?
[02:19] <zzz_> Anybody can help meI can't print to a file in firefox.If i do it ,firefox will force close.Why?
[02:19] <DBO> harisund, her idea, not mine
[02:19] <harisund> DBO: oh ok .
[02:19] <ssam> dbo, 700 people
[02:19] <HymnToLife> agrees*
[02:19] <lrosen> hey guys
[02:19] <DBO> ssam, we hit 760 before
[02:19] <lrosen> can I ask something
[02:19] <DBO> yes
[02:19] <HymnToLife> lrosen> no you can't
[02:19] <lrosen> k
[02:20] <DBO> hes kidding
[02:20] <biovore> lolz
[02:20] <DBO> ask
[02:20] <lrosen> I have a firewall drive connected to my machine
[02:20] <HymnToLife> it's forbidden hre, do you think you're in a help channel ?
[02:20] <polpak> !justask
[02:20] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[02:20] <fwp> Installed (none)
[02:20] <lrosen> it didnt automount (XFCE)
[02:20] <fwp> _jason
[02:20] <lrosen> how can I check what device it is
[02:20] <ssam> dbo i bet you get to 1000 on dapper release day
[02:20] <polpak> lrosen, you mean firewire?
[02:20] <lrosen> sorry
[02:20] <lrosen> firewire
[02:20] <DBO> ssam, think that might qualify as a DoS attack...
[02:20] <ompaul> !enter
[02:20] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[02:20] <juztin> how do i burn iso's with ubuntu?
[02:20] <_jason> fwp: replace gnome-system-tools with ubuntu-desktop and see what it says
[02:21] <ompaul> DBO, no its just getting where hit should do :-)
[02:21] <HymnToLife> juztin> k3b
[02:21] <polpak> juztin, right click select write cd?
[02:21] <monomaniacpat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13008
[02:21] <lrosen> can I get a connected HD device listing?
[02:21] <fwp> _jason: Installed: (none) :/
[02:21] <_jason> fwp: did you say your install did not complete?
[02:21] <amphi> juztin: I like cdrecord
[02:21] <jobezone> mythicness: if so, you need to give the path in front of the program you're running. It's probably '<directory where you ran the apt-get source command and all the stuff got downloaded>/xorg-x11-6.9.0.dfsg.1/xc/'
[02:21] <fwp> _jason: yeah
[02:21] <sun_> hi whats the easist way to copy a dvd
[02:21] <ompaul> Irosen click on system administration disks
[02:22] <lrosen> im in XFCE, not gnome
[02:22] <juztin> k3b looks user friendly...gonna give it a shot :)
[02:22] <_jason> ompaul: do you think it would work to just try installing ubuntu-desktop for fwp?
[02:22] <mian1ak> does the standard ubuntu cd contain kubutu and xubuntu?
[02:22] <ompaul> _jason, check space first :-)
[02:22] <Sionide> mian1ak, nope
[02:22] <HymnToLife> juztin> k3b is maybe the best CD burning app ever
[02:22] <mian1ak> Sionide, ok ty
[02:22] <harisund> monomaniacpat: Is Big_Mutha the wireless network that you are trying to connect to?
[02:22] <sun_> hi whats the easist way to copy a dvd
[02:22] <_jason> fwp: how much free space do you have on the drive?
[02:22] <monomaniacpat> yers
[02:22] <Sionide> mian1ak, they're a short command away though once the standard ubuntu is installed..
[02:22] <harisund> And do you own that? As in, can you change its settings etc?
[02:23] <sysop_> sun_: k3b ;-)
[02:23] <ompaul> mian1ak, you could install the "server" and then install kubuntu-desktop
[02:23] <Sionide> mian1ak, open a terminal and do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu" and it'll install all the relevant packages, there are proper HOWTOs on the wiki and stuff
[02:23] <lrosen> is there anyway to get a listing of active devices?
[02:23] <zzz_> What's wrong with my firefox.I can't print anything.But i can print in openoffice.Would anybody please help me or give me some hints,thanks in advance
[02:23] <HymnToLife> Sionide> xubuntu-desktop, more likely
[02:23] <fwp> _jason: 2.2G
[02:23] <Sionide> HymnToLife, aye.. close enough :) (oops)
[02:23] <_jason> fwp: free, not total correct?
[02:23] <ompaul> mian1ak, as machine pauses while booting you can type server then when it wakes up afterward you can do >>>sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop<<<
[02:23] <fwp> yes
[02:24] <_jason> fwp: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, cross your fingers
[02:24] <fwp> 3.8G total, it's a shit box.
[02:24] <mian1ak> ompaul, Sionide ok i get it, thanks :)
[02:24] <ompaul> fwp, we don't do any bad language here - rather rigid about that
[02:24] <jobezone> zzz_: can you print with gnome apps, like gedit?
[02:25] <lrosen> can anyone tell me howto get a listing of connected devices
[02:25] <polpak> fwp, you can fit ubuntu into a couple of gigs and still have room to work with. It's really pretty small
[02:25] <monomaniacpat> yes big_mutha is my router/ network
[02:25] <zzz_> jobezone,thanks.I can print it with gedit successfully
[02:25] <polpak> lrosen, dmesg ?
[02:25] <jobezone> lrosen: what do you mean? conected peripherals? 'lspci' and 'lsusb' give you the pci and usb devices on your computer.
[02:25] <harisund> monomaniacpat: And how have you configured it? Do you have any other computer connected to it?
[02:25] <HymnToLife> lrosen> lspci
[02:26] <polpak> jobezone, it's a firewire HD
[02:26] <ompaul> fwp, 3.8 yuk -- install server and xfce-desktop and gdm if it fails again, I think that is that is too small to get any reasonable use from the box
[02:26] <lrosen> jobezone: im looking for firewire prefs
[02:26] <jobezone> zzz_: are you using ubuntu's firefox, or did you install a different version from firefox website?
[02:26] <monomaniacpat> I do have an xp and osx mac connected, though not right now
[02:26] <zzz_> and I remember i can print with firefox before.
[02:27] <Stormchaser> I have a question: Are there any known problems with libgtk / libgdk in the dapper repository?
[02:27] <zzz_> jobezone,yes .i am using ubuntu's firefox and i did't install other versions
[02:27] <harisund> monomaniacpat: One last question. Is it encrypted? As in using a WEP key?
[02:27] <monomaniacpat> yes
[02:27] <harisund> monomaniacpat: WEP, right?
[02:27] <cafuego> firewire prefs?
[02:27] <monomaniacpat> yes
[02:27] <zzz_> I got nothing from system logs
[02:28] <harisund> monomaniacpat: Ok. Here the first command. "sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed essid Big_Mutha key <enter_your_key>"
[02:28] <harisund> monomaniacpat: And here is your second command. "sudo pump -i wlan0"
[02:28] <jobezone> lrosen: firewire preferences? mmm.. not sure if you can change the preferences of firewire, without recompiling linux (kernel). But, have a look at the /proc directory. This is a special directory showing all kinds of information of linux and your system. There are directories, and files there. For example, /proc/cpuinfo tell you all about your CPU.
[02:28] <harisund> monomaniacpat: Hopefully that should get your machine connected, considering that your Windows and Mac machines could connect and wlan0 is identified (it would have been a pain if it hadn't)
[02:29] <zzz_> Does printing with firefox rely on any other services except for cups?
[02:29] <harisund> monomaniacpat: Any luck? trying out the command?
[02:29] <jobezone> zzz_: when did it stop working? No, I think it uses cups... It crashes, you say?
[02:29] <TheOmnipotentWan> I'm trying to compile amaroK from source, but it tells me I don't have xine-lib.
[02:29] <DBO> harisund, patience, typing that key is slow =P
[02:29] <TheOmnipotentWan> Anyone know which package that would be?
[02:29] <monomaniacpat> harisund: get ready to make babies lover boy!
[02:30] <harisund> monomaniacpat: hmmm... do I assume it worked then?
[02:30] <monomaniacpat> yessirree - tonights you
[02:30] <Determinist> ok, i want msttcorefonts back :/
[02:30] <monomaniacpat> * lucky night *lunges*
[02:30] <DBO> clean it up when you are done
[02:30] <jobezone> zzz_: it definitelly uses CUPS, so if it's not working with firefox, but working with others, it's a bug with firefox. There's an easy fix you can try... removing and reinstalling firefox. You want to try it? If so, say so, and I can help.
[02:30] <harisund> monomaniacpat: Glad to hear that it worked. By the way, where did you get pump from?
[02:30] <zzz_> When i  clicked "print" ,firefox will be forced close.jobezone
[02:30] <DBO> harisund, its in the repos
[02:30] <lrosen>  I just want to mount my EXT3 external firewire drive in XFCE
[02:30] <harisund> monomaniacpat: pump is not installed by default in Ubuntu. dhclient is the preferred dhcp client. Pump is used I think in Mepis and a few other distros.
[02:31] <lrosen> can someone help me
[02:31] <zzz_> Yes,jobezone,i 'll do it
[02:31] <HymnToLife> zzz_> have you tried running it from the comand line and seeing if anything is displayed when it crshes ?
[02:31] <zzz_> One second
[02:31] <harisund> DBO: yes, I too had installed pump once. Its a nice piece of software too, but somehow doesn't give the same descriptive status while connecting as pump does, but pump just seems better at times.
[02:32] <zzz_> No,HymnToLife.Oh, good idea,i 'll try it firstly
[02:32] <DBO> harisund, so pumps error was caused because it needed an ESSID?
[02:32] <DBO> (and the key)
[02:32] <harisund> More so I think because it needed the key.
[02:32] <monomaniacpat> synaptci
[02:32] <monomaniacpat> *ic
[02:32] <DBO> harisund, I see, should have thought of that one... I guess thats another one for my black book
[02:32] <harisund> DBO: And from the PasteBoard id that monomaniacpat has posted earlier,I am assuming pump was looking in the wrong place for an ip.
[02:33] <zzz_> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/mozilla-fire fox/components/libgfxps.so: undefined symbol: FTC_Image_Cache_New
[02:33] <harisund> DBO: Great. Good to know everything worked out fine.
[02:33] <monomaniacpat> I tried ripping out the wired connection and I can't access web pages - how do I know the wireless is working/ how do I get it to work unwired
[02:33] <zzz_> HymnTolife and jobezone,i got the error messages
[02:33] <jobezone> lrosen: sorry, I never played with external firewire hardrives in my life... But you could check something. Unplug the hardrive. then run in a command line 'sudo tail -f /var/log/messages' . Then plug the hardrive, and see the new output from the terminal. Then paste it in the Pastebin (link is in the topic of the channel).
[02:33] <harisund> monomanicpat: The output of ifconfig tells what is connected and what is not.
[02:34] <HymnToLife> zzz_> at least you have something to work on :p can't help you with it though...
[02:34] <jobezone> zzz_: then paste them in the pastebin website.
[02:34] <monomaniacpat> ?
[02:34] <harisund> monomaniacpat: execute "ifconfig" on your command line. If possible, past the output onto PasteBoard,and I will walk you through how to read it.
[02:34] <scorchsaber> I installed Java off of their website, according to the Wiki, but now I can't run Java at all in mozilla firefox
[02:34] <scorchsaber> It wants me to install plugins
[02:34] <scorchsaber> how do I fix this?
[02:35] <harisund> scorchsaber: Are you able to see information relating to Java when you type about:plugins in your Firefox address bar?
[02:35] <_jason> scorchsaber: what version of firefox and what verison of ubuntu?
[02:35] <scorchsaber> 1.5, 5.10
[02:35] <disco_stu> Hi Everybody
[02:35] <_jason> scorchsaber: you need to manually create symlinks in the firefox/plugins directory
[02:35] <eobanb_> hi, disco_stu
[02:35] <harisund> scorchsaber: Are we talking about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:35] <monomaniacpat> OK... hang on - I think I understand the information - I'd just like to know why I can't disconnect the wire now - ?
[02:36] <dbarnett> I have a question on that line too. I seem to be missing a bunch of fonts in my flash plugin (yes I installed the gsfonts and gsfonts-x11)
[02:36] <harisund> monomaniacpat: Once you know your wireless is up, you can stop your wired connection using "sudo ifconfig eth0 down" then you can safely remove the ethernet wire.
[02:36] <scorchsaber> How do I make a symbolic link?
[02:37] <harisund> scorchsaber: The instructions are in the wiki.
[02:37] <polpak> dbarnett, have you installed msttcorefonts ?
[02:37] <DBO> scorchsaber, man ln
[02:37] <disco_stu> Can anybody give me some advice here...  I am trying to use Amule - but it says that port 4662 is not available...  I have allowed that port in my router - but it still doesn't work?  Any ideas?
[02:37] <dbarnett> polpak: I don't think so, just installed what was in the wiki
[02:37] <bimberi> scorchsaber: ln -s /path/to/target /path/to/link
[02:37] <scorchsaber> The WIKI said to go to the OFFICIAL page if I have an unnoficial built (such as 1.5)
[02:37] <scorchsaber> thank you bimberi
[02:37] <polpak> dbarnett, well you might want them as they're fairly common
[02:37] <harisund> monomaniacpat: And once again, if you want to stop wireless and start wired, you would do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" "sudo pump -i eth0"
[02:37] <dbarnett> trying that now. Thanks!
[02:37] <polpak> dbarnett, in the ms world anyway
[02:37] <ShadowNova> Does anyone know where I can easily get "libvisual0.2"
[02:38] <harisund> scorchsaber: Which wiki page are you talking about?
[02:38] <harisund> scorchsaber: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins has everything nicely.
[02:38] <_jason> !+find libvisual0.2
[02:38] <ubotu> already running (debian, ubuntu) => exceeded allowed forked processes count (1?).
[02:38] <_jason> uh huh...
[02:38] <HymnToLife> shadow > http://www.google.com
[02:38] <dbarnett> polpak: hmm, still no flash (www.strangeradventures.com example)
[02:38] <HymnToLife> ShadowNova*
[02:39] <ShadowNova> I did google it, but what I found wouldn't install
[02:39] <bimberi> _jason: sorry, i'm running it in /query
[02:39] <_jason> bimberi: ah :)
[02:39] <jobezone> disco_stu: you also need to open that port in ubuntu. Firestarter is a easy GUI to do it.
[02:39] <polpak> dbarnett, yeah. me either
[02:39] <polpak> dbarnett, complain to the website that they need to embed their fonts =p
[02:39] <scorchsaber> uhhh...stupid question that I've wondered about for a while: In the console, how do I get into a subfolder without cd (thewholedamnpath)?
[02:39] <dbarnett> heh
[02:40] <jobezone> disco_stu: I usually open 3 ports for amule, the ones mentioned in the configuration window of amule.
[02:40] <zzz_> jobezone,i got something from google
[02:40] <bimberi> _jason: ... and got no results
[02:40] <bimberi> :)
[02:40] <harisund> scorchsaber: if you find out a way to do so, please do let me also know :)
[02:40] <HymnToLife> scorchsaber> you don't, that's what cd is for, why do you neet something else ?
[02:40] <monomaniacpat> harisund: still there? my connections dieing I think
[02:40] <scorchsaber> ...
[02:40] <zzz_> "Reverting to use libfreetype v6.3.5 (the one that comes with hoary) resolved the problem."
[02:40] <harisund> monomaniacpat: Yeah I am here. What happned?
[02:40] <harisund> monomaniacpat: Connection is dying in the sense?
[02:40] <scorchsaber> HymToLife: So I can, for instance, explore, rather than having to go deep in, and type long
[02:40] <scorchsaber> Sometimes I don't know where everything is
[02:40] <scorchsaber> so I dir
[02:40] <scorchsaber> and then cd the whole damened thing again
[02:41] <disco_stu> How do I use firestarter?
[02:41] <jobezone> scorchsaber: going up is 'cd ..', or you can enter a directory bellow your own with 'cd directory_name', and of course, like you did, 'cd all/the/path'
[02:41] <_jason> !info libvisual0.2
[02:41] <zzz_> How can i check the version of libfreetype in ubuntu
[02:41] <harisund> scorchsaber: You could use some command line explorer sort of a tool.. mc is a powerful tool.. anybody know any others?
[02:41] <HymnToLife> scorchsaber> ls /path/to/dir will list all the files and subdirs of it
[02:41] <dbarnett> Is there someone I could talk to here about getting someone unbanned?
[02:41] <zzz_> What commads should i user
[02:41] <polpak> dbarnett, the ops?
[02:41] <scorchsaber> HymTolife: That involves just as much typing
[02:41] <zith> what do people generally use for an imap mail server?
[02:41] <dbarnett> yes, I'm asking if any of them wish to talk to me:)
[02:41] <scorchsaber> Hymtolife: If not more
[02:42] <scorchsaber> no, just as much
[02:42] <HymnToLife> I don't really get what you want to do
[02:42] <polpak> dbarnett, Seveas might be around if you ask for him by name =)
[02:42] <_jason> ShadowNova: it doesn't seem to be in breezy, but it is in dapper fyi
[02:42] <dbarnett> Seveas: are you around and willing to be kowtowed to
[02:43] <disco_stu> I didn't have firestarter installed - does that matter?
[02:43] <IYY> how would I change xsettings (mainly the icon theme for epiphany and nautilus) without gnome?
[02:43] <bimberi> dbarnett: '/msg ubotu ops' and look for any of those nicks being active in the channel
[02:43] <Fensta> guh I still cant get dual boot to work
[02:43] <Fensta> I need some help people
[02:43] <dbarnett> thanks
[02:43] <Fensta> I installed ubuntu.. and grub... but it still goes into windows
[02:43] <bimberi> dbarnett: np :)
[02:43] <amphi> Fensta: the grub info pages have many useful examples
[02:43] <Fensta> I dont get the grub option
[02:43] <jobezone> zzz_: you probably have the package libfreetype6 ('apt-cache show libfreetype6')
[02:44] <HymnToLife> Fensta> You have to tell your BIOS to boot from the drive where GRUB is installe, I assume you have more than one
[02:44] <jobezone> zzz_: can you give me that link you read?
[02:44] <Fensta> yes... and it is partitioned
[02:44] <Fensta> sata drive
[02:44] <Fensta> but I think it is seeing my pata drive first
[02:44] <scorchsaber> How do I know exactly where the parts of a package are installed?
[02:45] <Fensta> my sata drive is parttioned 3 times..... 1 winxp and 1 linux and 1 swap
[02:45] <HymnToLife> scorchsaber> in the package's info page in Synapric
[02:45] <monomaniacpat> I tried the steps you suggested and it just stops altogether
[02:45] <monomaniacpat> The only way I got it back up was to open network connections and deactivate/ activate
[02:45] <monomaniacpat> argh, my connection is vadged
[02:45] <HymnToLife> you havec an "Installed files" tab
[02:45] <monomaniacpat> hello?
[02:45] <scorchsaber> where is the info page?
[02:45] <HymnToLife> don't remeber exactly, just look around for it
[02:46] <Fensta> HymnToLife...do you think my mbr is on a different drive?
[02:46] <scorchsaber> Do you mean Properties?
[02:46] <jobezone> scorchsaber: you can use synaptic, and right-click a package, and choose properties (I think). The window that pops-up has a list of installed files of the package.
[02:46] <HymnToLife> Fensta> each drive has it's own MBR
[02:46] <zzz_> jobezone.http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=257705&page=6
[02:46] <HymnToLife> scorchsaber> mybe, somethink like that, I'm not on my Ubuntu atm
[02:47] <disco_stu> Is there a firewall automatically installed with Ubuntu?
[02:47] <HymnToLife> disco_stu> yes, it's called iptables
[02:47] <monomaniacpat> My connection is all over the place at the moment - hopefully it's better now
[02:47] <Fensta> well I dont get it HymnToLife.... I fixed my mbr... then reinstalled and it still isnt showing up
[02:47] <disco_stu> How do I edit it?
[02:47] <_jason> !firewall
[02:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[02:47] <monomaniacpat> I put eth0 down and it all just STOPPED
[02:48] <Fensta> any ideas HymnToLife?
[02:48] <HymnToLife> Fensta> as I told you, ech drie has its own MBR. On your IDE drive's MBR there is the Windows boot loader and on your SATA's there is GRUB
[02:48] <amphi> disco_stu: or use iptables(8); there are howtos and other docs at netfilter.org
[02:48] <HymnToLife> so you have to tell your BIOS you want to use your SATA's MBR to boot
[02:48] <Fensta> my sata has winxp and linux
[02:48] <Fensta> the ide is just storage
[02:48] <robert__> hi there
[02:48] <Fensta> and my bios is set to boot from the sata
[02:49] <scorchsaber> Java is now working, at least, it seems to be
[02:49] <HymnToLife> then GRUB didn't install properly I guess
[02:49] <Fensta> but it keeps loading xp
[02:49] <robert__> I just installed this ysytem but never asked me for the root passwd and I am crazy now
[02:49] <Fensta> HymnToLife.. I have done it several times to ensure :\
[02:49] <robert__> is there a way to fix this?
[02:49] <Fensta> I think it is perhaps installing to the wrong place or something
[02:49] <jobezone> zzz_: mmm... that post was made in  05-01-2005 . And you did say that it worked once... Do you have a postscript printer (as it's what happened to that guy)?
[02:49] <bimberi> !tell robert__ about root
[02:49] <amphi> Fensta: you never see the grub screen?
[02:49] <Fensta> never amphi
[02:49] <synobazz> hey every1
[02:49] <Fensta> makes no sense
[02:49] <robert__> yes
[02:49] <HymnToLife> and you're not getting the GRUB menu ?
[02:50] <amphi> Fensta: try booting off a livecd and reinstalling grub
[02:50] <Fensta> no... however it asked if I wanted to install it to the mbr.. and I chose yes.. and it did
[02:50] <bimberi> robert__: ubuntu uses sudo (check for a /msg from ubotu)
[02:50] <synobazz> please help me: how do i atom. connect to a smb share at start up?
[02:50] <HymnToLife> or maybe it installed on your IDE, try booting from it
[02:50] <Fensta> but it installed hd0 and I wonder if that is the IDE drive instead of the sata
[02:50] <zith> !tell zith about root
[02:50] <synobazz> autom.
[02:50] <amphi> Fensta: boot off the cd, mount the hd / somewhere, chroot to it, and run grub-install
[02:50] <HymnToLife> Fensta> I think so too, try booting from it
[02:51] <Fensta> so take the boot flag off of my sata and put it on for the ide?
[02:51] <amphi> Fensta: grub doesn't care about the bootable flag
[02:51] <HymnToLife> Fensta> just put your IDE in First Boot Device in your BIO
[02:51] <jobezone> zzz_: when firefox crashes, do you get the same error as that guy in that linuxquestions post?
[02:51] <synobazz> ??? is it possible anyhow ?? (i mean, i know that it is possible, but how??)
[02:51] <scorchsaber> Java still won't run runescape--any ideas why?
[02:51] <zzz_> Yes,jobezone.I have a postscript printer
[02:52] <Fensta> so the bootable flag doesnt matter.. just what mbr the pc finds first?
[02:52] <HymnToLife> exactly
[02:52] <Fensta> ok
[02:52] <Fensta> let me give this stuff a try
[02:52] <HymnToLife> which is the one you tell the BIOS to boot at first
[02:52] <Fensta> thx amphi and HymnToLife.. ill bbiab.. hopefully on linux
[02:52] <HymnToLife> if it doesn't find any, it boots from the second and so on
[02:53] <synobazz> how do i autom. connect to a smb share on start up...maybe even @ booting??
[02:53] <zzz_> Oh,jobezone.I remember that i installed http://archive.ubuntu.org.cn/ubuntu/pool/main/f/freetype/libfreetype6_2.1.10-1ubuntu1_i386.deb to make my ubuntu looking nice in chinese
[02:53] <VR_> are the repo servers slow for any of you?
[02:54] <zzz_> So...Maybe this is the problem.Right?
[02:55] <_harm> 2
[02:55] <capiCrimm> VR_, they were crapping out on me earlier(i.e. download speed of around 0)
[02:55] <jobezone> zzz_:mmm, that's a more recent version than the one that exists in breezy. So yeah, that could be the problem.
[02:55] <VR_> ah, ok, so it's not my connection.
[02:55] <VR_> it's about 50kbps here
[02:55] <jobezone> zzz_: if you have the same problem as that guy. But you can install again the breezy one. It's here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Ff%2Ffreetype%2Flibfreetype6_2.1.7-2.4ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=e81b03be87a6b125385f7d40ee8d8fc7&arch=i386&type=main
[02:55] <VR_> usually 500 though
[02:56] <zzz_> Thank you very much,jobezone.
[02:56] <capiCrimm> VR_, yeah, sometimes they slow down or get really slow. It might help if you switch your area or try a mirror in sources.lst.
[02:57] <jobezone> zzz_: download from one of the mirrors, then install it using 'sudo dpkg -i libfretypeblahablah.deb' (Iassume you're on intel 32bits).
[02:57] <jobezone> zzz_: you're welcome :)
[02:57] <VR_> capiCrimm: thanks, will do
[02:57] <mike> Kind of new to linux just wondering, is it possible to have gnome and KDE on one system?
[02:57] <zith> what is the best way to transfer many files and folders over sftp?  i don't see a command in `sftp`
[02:57] <zzz_> But i think i'd better leave it along,because i need to display chinese fold type correctly.
[02:57] <dbarnett> mike: you can have them both installed
[02:57] <HymnToLife> mike> yes, and even more if you ant
[02:58] <mike> Is it hard to set up?
[02:58] <dbarnett> mike: use the synaptic package manager should be easy
[02:58] <jobezone> zzz_: ah.. and that was the only way to do it? install the new version? That sucks....
[02:58] <HymnToLife> mike> no, I assume you're in gnome than run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install KDE
[02:58] <dbarnett> or you could download a kubuntu live cd and play with that to see if you like that better
[02:59] <_harm> mike i prefered KDE over Gnome but in dapper GNOME is really sexy
[02:59] <zzz_> Yes.i am a newbie of ubuntu.Maybe one day,i 'll get a better method to fix it.jobezone.Thanks again!!!
[02:59] <mike> jbarnett, if I install KDE too, how does the system know which one manager to boot? Does sysnaptic work that out for me?
[03:00] <polpak> mike, on the login screen you can choose
[03:00] <drexelxxxx> test
[03:00] <HymnToLife> mike> you choose which environment you want to run at the login screen
[03:00] <jobezone> zzz_: you're welcome. Enjoy your stay!
[03:00] <polpak> mike, under session
[03:00] <synobazz> please help me
[03:00] <TheOmnipotentWan> What're the big differences between Gnome in Dapper and Gnome in Breezy?
[03:00] <dbarnett> apparenltly it got sexy
[03:00] <TheOmnipotentWan> I don't remember it giving me a stip-tease.
[03:01] <_harm> TheOmnipotentWan it got sexier, orange instead of brown/caramel and it loads faster and its just pleasing to the eyes
[03:01] <ssam_> wow, dapper beta 2 already https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000072.html
[03:01] <{alejandro}> yeah
[03:01] <mike> thanks for the help guys
[03:01] <TheOmnipotentWan> I noticed the orange, yeah.
[03:01] <{alejandro}> and the artwork is better
[03:01] <{alejandro}> in general
[03:01] <rfm> If I knew what versions of gnome were in dapper and breezy, I could tell you to look on the gnome website for "whats new in 2.xx"...
[03:01] <HymnToLife> mike> you're welcome :)
[03:01] <_harm> true
[03:01] <TheOmnipotentWan> Although I changed the theme about five minutes after installing it.
[03:01] <_harm> why?
[03:01] <TheOmnipotentWan> But I haven't noticed any real appreciable difference in speed.
[03:01] <{alejandro}> now I forget, does dapper use svg icons by default now?
[03:02] <{alejandro}> (I don't remember because I normally use Tango icons)
[03:02] <jobezone> rfm: dapper has 2.14, breezy 2.12
[03:02] <TheOmnipotentWan> I think dapper uses default gnome icons.
[03:02] <TheOmnipotentWan> Or at least it did when I installed flight 6.
[03:02] <HymnToLife> version number incremented by .02
[03:02] <{alejandro}> yeah thought so
[03:02] <HymnToLife> that means 2 features removed :D
[03:02] <{alejandro}> default gnome icons blow
[03:02] <{alejandro}> why haven't they fixed this
[03:02] <TheOmnipotentWan> Yeah, they're terrible.
[03:03] <TheOmnipotentWan> Or at least they're terrible with the themes I like.
[03:03] <{alejandro}> well they aren't SVG and they really ought to be
[03:03] <{alejandro}> well mostly not svg
[03:04] <slacker_1> anyone have any dist-upgrade problems from 5.04 to 5.10??
[03:04] <{alejandro}> I never did when I did it
[03:05] <_harm> slacker_1 no
[03:06] <mike> When I install KDE, can I still access my gnome applications?
[03:07] <theshibboleth> Not a directly ubuntu-related question but anyway maybe this has happened to others here--I accidently deleted the bookmarks folder in Firefox. I can still see the bookmarks, but I can't manage them. How can i fix this?
[03:07] <jobezone> mike: Yes! and vice-versa (while in Gnome, acess KDE apps)
[03:07] <slacker_1> harnthanks my burners broke and all i have is warty and hoary cd's:)
[03:07] <synobazz> how do i auto connect to a network share on startup???
[03:08] <mshade> synobazz, nfs or smb?
[03:08] <crook> theshibboleth the solution is to use http://del.icio.us bookmars :}
[03:08] <synobazz> smb
[03:08] <mike> sorry for all the questions, just dont want to mess things up. Are the bianaries for synaptic all I need?
[03:08] <TheOmnipotentWan> When you deleted the folder, did you really delete it, or is it sitting in the trash bin.
[03:08] <mshade> ubotu, smb
[03:08] <ubotu> mshade: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:08] <TheOmnipotentWan> If the latter...Just restore it.
[03:08] <mshade> ubotu, samba
[03:08] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[03:09] <mshade> synobazz, :)
[03:09] <synobazz> thank u
[03:09] <drexelxxxx> Does Ubuntu keep all of their repositories updated? for example I don't like it when I want to install something and Glibc version isn't high enough to run certain programs.
[03:09] <thomasM> hello i've been trying to figure out what to do with zeroconf. I have the panel applet, however when i click on a network service, nothing is launched or happens.
[03:10] <_jason> drexelxxxx: ubuntu makes a stable release every 6 months and the provides security updates
[03:10] <TheOmnipotentWan> Yeah, the repos are kept updated.
[03:10] <drexelxxxx> thx
[03:10] <dbarnett> thomasM: what do you want to use zeroconf for?
[03:10] <thomasM> enable all repositories...
[03:10] <thomasM> dbarnett: DAAP.
[03:10] <drexelxxxx> I'm not complaining at all, but I was just wondering
[03:10] <slacker_1> theshibboleth: should have a backup file and original in .mozilla/firefox/<profile-name) i would think
[03:10] <drexelxxxx> for a free distro i'm very greatful
[03:11] <thomasM> If i click on a network DAAP share, should it be launching rhythmbox to browse the service, or not?
[03:11] <_harm> drexelxxxx which non free distro do u like ?
[03:11] <drexelxxxx> Xandros
[03:11] <thomasM> or is zeroconfig just there to show what's available to you, and you have to go pick up all of the clients yourself?
[03:11] <drexelxxxx> it is pretty nice
[03:12] <drexelxxxx> nicer than suse in my opinion
[03:12] <_harm> urm..
[03:12] <drexelxxxx> I can't do without apt
[03:12] <theshibboleth> slacker_1: yeah, just found it. So I suppose I can delete all my bookmarks and import a back-up?
[03:12] <_harm> hehe :D
[03:12] <{alejandro}> well Dapper is special too drexelxxxx
[03:12] <{alejandro}> it is the long term support release, with 3 years of support planned
[03:13] <drexelxxxx> you can backup bookmarks from within firefox also
[03:13] <thomasM> dapper is shaping up.....
[03:13] <drexelxxxx> to an html file
[03:13] <_harm> dapper is really doing well imho
[03:13] <{alejandro}> yeah it is
[03:13] <drexelxxxx> so is Google going to make a distro?
[03:13] <thomasM> drexelxxx firefox keeps the bookmarks in an html file normally.
[03:13] <_harm> i just whish i could say the same for xgl
[03:13] <{alejandro}> warty and breezy were awkward to install but everything Just Worked with dapper
[03:13] <_harm> thomasM no
[03:13] <thomasM> o really?
[03:13] <dbarnett> drexelxxxx: that's all rumor. I would guess not
[03:13] <drexelxxxx> oh really thomas
[03:13] <muraii> Hi there.
[03:13] <drexelxxxx> that is new to me
[03:13] <_harm> google isnt making a distro
[03:13] <muraii> Anyone here use Blender 3D on Breezy?
[03:13] <_harm> its all talk
[03:14] <drexelxxxx> figures
[03:14] <thomasM> hrmm well i've found an html file with my bookmarks before
[03:14] <dbarnett> if anything they would make a gui on top of a bsd
[03:14] <{alejandro}> muraii what you wanna know
[03:14] <dbarnett> like apple did
[03:14] <thomasM> maybe i did something to back them up like that.
[03:14] <drexelxxxx> google is making a reputation of things like that
[03:14] <{alejandro}> well speaking of bsd desktops I tried DesktopBSD and it is all sorts of nice
[03:14] <slackern> hmm how would i do to update a group i joined without ending this session?
[03:15] <drexelxxxx> MEPIS sux
[03:15] <drexelxxxx> out of the box
[03:15] <thomasM> so does ubuntu...
[03:15] <robert__> where I can find information for configuring my ati pci all in wonder card to play tv?
[03:15] <{alejandro}> robert__ you probably can't do it
[03:15] <drexelxxxx> ubuntu works fine for me
[03:15] <dbarnett> {alejandro}: freebsd spinoff?
[03:15] <robert__> why alejandro?
[03:15] <{alejandro}> dbarnett yes
[03:15] <thomasM> after you tweak it and install non-free software.
[03:15] <drexelxxxx> probably your hardware
[03:16] <drexelxxxx> I don't have any problems
[03:16] <{alejandro}> robert__ because there are no workng v4l drivers for it
[03:16] <thomasM> mp3 worked out of the box?
[03:16] <robert__> wow
[03:16] <{alejandro}> robert__ look up GATOS
[03:16] <drexelxxxx> haven't tried that
[03:16] <thomasM> what kind of OS doesn't have mp3 support?
[03:16] <drexelxxxx> maybe it is the software your trying too
[03:16] <robert__> I will thabks
[03:16] <thomasM> flash doesn't work
[03:16] <{alejandro}> thomasM the kind that lets you install it later
[03:16] <muraii> {alejandro}: I was trying to run it, but it said I didn't have libc++5.so or some such library.  Now, I know of the library to which it refers--libstdc++5; but I have libstdc++6 already installed.
[03:16] <robert__> could gatos work?
[03:16] <thomasM> well i know you can install it later, he's talking about "out of the box" though
[03:16] <drexelxxxx> well there is a licensing thing
[03:17] <muraii> I'm wondering if installing libstdc++5 will FUBAR anything.
[03:17] <drexelxxxx> free distros have to leave stuff like that out
[03:17] <drexelxxxx> like libdvdcss
[03:17] <thomasM> not all...
[03:17] <{alejandro}> muraii try reinstalling blender in synaptic
[03:17] <holysmoke> I have a question, what is the best thing to type in fstab to add a secondary storage harddrive (hdb1) to your system??  I wouldnt mind just calling it storage
[03:17] <{alejandro}> muraii just for kicks
[03:17] <robert__> could gatos woks alejandro, or is just a guess?
[03:17] <muraii> They're both considerd v3 of the GNU standard C++ library.
[03:17] <{alejandro}> muraii and it won't
[03:17] <muraii> {alejandro}: I'd like to use 2.41 if I can.
[03:18] <{alejandro}> muraii then install the libistc++ 5
[03:18] <muraii> {alejandro}: Are you aware of the differences covered by each library, even generally?
[03:18] <{alejandro}> muraii with GNU tools it shouldn't be a problem
[03:18] <muraii> I can google it, of course.
[03:18] <jobezone> isn't libstdc++5 available in the repos?
[03:18] <jimcooncat> Not having closed formats does force you to learn a bit about the distro, a least a good side effect
[03:18] <xanza> #RSGaming
[03:18] <robert__> Alejandro, could gatos works? or it's jus a guess?
[03:18] <muraii> jobezone: Yeah, it is.  It's just that I have libstdc++6 installed already.
[03:18] <drexelxxxx> Anybody know if Gentoo is good after it is setup?
[03:18] <{alejandro}> muraii do it
[03:19] <muraii> I assume they duplicate functionality, but perhaps I assume incorrectly.
[03:19] <muraii> {alejandro}: Alrighty.
[03:19] <{alejandro}> robert__ I had no luck but that was a few months ago
[03:19] <robert__> ok
[03:19] <robert__> I will try myself
[03:19] <jimcooncat> drexelxxxx, I ran Gentoo servers for a while, good experience
[03:19] <robert__> thaks
[03:19] <drexelxxxx> ok
[03:19] <drexelxxxx> yeah i'm working on gentoo right now and i'm learning a hell of a lot so far
[03:19] <drexelxxxx> I have a lot of respect for the gentoo org
[03:19] <jobezone> muraii: if the package doesn't conflict with 6, it can be installed as well.
[03:19] <jimcooncat> I came to Ubuntu because I wanted to use the software quicker
[03:20] <dbarnett> I'm surprised gentoo hasn't completely killed slackware
[03:20] <{alejandro}> jobezone and muraii they shouldn't conflict since they are GNU tools
[03:20] <jimcooncat> there are too many packages to play with to have to emerge them all
[03:20] <drexelxxxx> slackware doesnt' even support my SATA
[03:20] <drexelxxxx> at least 10.1 doesnt'
[03:21] <{alejandro}> drexelxxxx this is because slackware is ridiculous
[03:21] <muraii> Anyone played with Zenwalk 2+ (a Slackware derivative)?
[03:21] <drexelxxxx> haha
[03:21] <raptros-v76> hey, ive decided i might upgrade my release to dapper, is there anything im gonna have to worry about?
[03:21] <jimcooncat> drexelxxxx, slack's on a different wavelength
[03:21] <drexelxxxx> I haven't ever used it before
[03:21] <thomasM> none at all
[03:21] <thomasM> just dist-upgrade
[03:21] <{alejandro}> ratptros it has been smooth sailing for me thus far
[03:21] <blind> How do I trace-route in ubuntu?
[03:22] <drexelxxxx> traceroute
[03:22] <drexelxxxx> that is a basic command
[03:22] <raptros-v76> there was a warning about evms
[03:22] <dbarnett> hmm it seems like traceroute isn't installed by default
[03:22] <thomasM> evms..
[03:22] <drexelxxxx> hmm
[03:22] <thomasM> i dunno
[03:22] <drexelxxxx> do you have the path set to it?
[03:22] <raptros-v76> ?
[03:22] <drexelxxxx> do a updatedb
[03:22] <drexelxxxx> then "locate traceroute"
[03:23] <jimcooncat> blind, try Applications -> System Tools -> Network Tools
[03:23] <drexelxxxx> without quotes
[03:23] <drexelxxxx> yeah that too but if you like commands like I do I would get that
[03:23] <jimcooncat> blind there's traceroute and whois and ping
[03:23] <raptros-v76> well, ive got the website open.  if i suddenly dissapear without warning and dont come back, youll know i screwed up
[03:23] <blind> but how do i do it via terminal
[03:23] <jobezone> perhaps he needs to use traceroute with sudo?
[03:23] <dbarnett> I don't appear to have it installed
[03:24] <drexelxxxx> traceroute will work under all users most of the time
[03:24] <muraii_> blender3d.org must've been dugg or slashdotted recently.
[03:24] <dbarnett> try tracepath
[03:24] <dbarnett> in /usr/sbin/
[03:24] <jimcooncat> I have traceroute6
[03:24] <{alejandro}> network tools should do it too
[03:24] <dbarnett> tracepath appears to be traceroute + mtu info
[03:24] <VR_> archives.ubuntu.com is really slow for me here. how can i choose laternate repos? what are some reliable ones?
[03:24] <drexelxxxx> export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin
[03:25] <VR_> alternate*
[03:25] <blind> traceroute: unknown host 65.75.190.10 ... lol wtf
[03:25] <jimcooncat> wow, that's weird, I don't have it on command line either
[03:25] <drexelxxxx> traceroute www.yahoo.com
[03:25] <HymnToLife> vr_ in which countryare you ?
[03:25] <FearMoth> I have a castlewood orb internal IDE disk drive, anyone know if it's compatible with linux and how to install it?
[03:25] <VR_> HymnToLife: US
[03:25] <drexelxxxx> yahoo doesn't have a ICMP block
[03:25] <blind> traceroute: unknown host 127.0.0.1
[03:25] <drexelxxxx> permissiosn
[03:25] <drexelxxxx> permissions
[03:25] <HymnToLife> then try us.achives.ubuntu.com and so on
[03:25] <TheOmnipotentWan> Isn't it tracepath in Ubuntu?
[03:26] <VR_> HymnToLife: thats what i'm using right now
[03:26] <blind> woop, that worked.
[03:26] <blind> thanks TheOmnipotentWan
[03:26] <HymnToLife> then remove the prefix
[03:26] <TheOmnipotentWan> No problemo.
[03:26] <HymnToLife> archive.ubuntu.com etc
[03:26] <VR_> ok
[03:27] <jobezone> isn't there a graphical app included by default, which does all kinds of things, like traceroute, whois, etc.
[03:27] <thomasM> Network Tools
[03:27] <thomasM> Network tools has all of that.
[03:27] <TheOmnipotentWan> What he said.
[03:27] <jobezone> right, that's the one
[03:27] <thomasM> mmhrmmm
[03:27] <thomasM> it's part of gnome.
[03:28] <TheOmnipotentWan> There's something inherently wrong with doing tracepaths out of the command line, though.
[03:28] <jimcooncat> aptitude says traceroute's not installed
[03:28] <TheOmnipotentWan> jim:  Tracepath
[03:28] <eneried> hello guys! does anybody know an alternative to amsn or gaim to conect to msn messenger?
[03:28] <drexelxxxx> tracepath is the default
[03:28] <HymnToLife> eneried> kopete
[03:28] <thomasM> Kopete is good if you don't mind KDE libraries.
[03:28] <{alejandro}> TheOmnipotentWan actually there is a very similar program that comes with OSX that I have grown fond of
[03:28] <{alejandro}> that does all those network commands under one GUI roof
[03:28] <VR_> HymnToLife: i removed the us. part, now it's fast again.
[03:28] <drexelxxxx> traceroute6 is installed but I didn't know ubuntu was set like that
[03:29] <eneried> HymnToLife, does kopete allows me to chat using earphones and mic?
[03:29] <jimcooncat> "sudo apt-get install traceroute" works
[03:29] <TheOmnipotentWan> alejandro:  I don't mean wrong with usability.
[03:29] <HymnToLife> eneried> dunno, being deaf I never use it ;)
[03:29] <TheOmnipotentWan> I've just been doing tracepaths and pings and whatnot in the command line for long enough that it just seems wrong to look at a graphical interface while I do it.
[03:29] <VR_> HymnToLife: one question though... if im trying to install something over apt, and i notice its taking a long time, how do i stop the installation?
[03:29] <drexelxxxx> I wish I could use OSX
[03:29] <eneried> HymnToLife i c
[03:29] <{alejandro}> heh
[03:29] <HymnToLife> vr_ Ctrl+C
[03:29] <thomasM> close the terminal... and you will have to finish configuring later.
[03:30] <VR_> HymnToLife: thanks
[03:30] <{alejandro}> OSX is so fun
[03:30] <dbarnett> I love my mac
[03:30] <amphi> I love my stinkpad
[03:30] <drexelxxxx> Macintosh really started using their heads when they switch to the x86 arch
[03:30] <doms> pangittttttttttttttttttt
[03:31] <dbarnett> drexelxxxx: I'm drooling over a tripleboot powerbook
[03:31] <amphi> triple mouse button'd be nice
[03:31] <drexelxxxx> I wish their prices were lower though
[03:31] <{alejandro}> drexelxxxx yeah but trusted computing gives me the willies
[03:31] <dbarnett> my big problem with osX is the case insensitivity
[03:31] <dbarnett> it really messes with some things
[03:31] <dbarnett> like cvs
[03:31] <{alejandro}> yeah that is gross
[03:32] <jimcooncat> you guys remind me of when I saw my first Amiga
[03:32] <{alejandro}> you can use UFS on it
[03:32] <dbarnett> I had atticed something called blah and renamed it Blah
[03:32] <{alejandro}> I do
[03:32] <{alejandro}> which is fun
[03:32] <drexelxxxx> OSX is really amazing
[03:32] <drexelxxxx> brilliant minds behind that
[03:32] <muraii__> drexelxxxx: I think the price/performance ratio is better than the advertised price would lead you to believe, in my admittedly humble opinion.
[03:32] <TheOmnipotentWan> The guys who did FreeBSD?
[03:32] <_jason> !offtopic
[03:32] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[03:32] <drexelxxxx> but it will never go to the PC
[03:32] <{alejandro}> It's OpenBSD actually
[03:33] <{alejandro}> but yeah
[03:33] <TheOmnipotentWan> Oh yeah?
[03:33] <amphi> drexelxxxx: why is a mutant bsd running as monolithic task on mach 'amazing'?
[03:33] <TheOmnipotentWan> I was under the impression it was freebsd.
[03:33] <{alejandro}> pretty colors
[03:33] <TheOmnipotentWan> How good is openbsd?
[03:33] <TheOmnipotentWan> I heard it was more intended for security then anything else.
[03:33] <dbarnett> Openbsd is nice if you don't need applications
[03:33] <{alejandro}> look it up
[03:33] <thomasM> thankyou jason..
[03:33] <eneried> boys, are you talking about Darwin?
[03:33] <thomasM> i hate fanboys.
[03:33] <{alejandro}> heehee
[03:33] <{alejandro}> fair enough
[03:33] <biovore> TheOmnipotentWan: openbsd is good for security because nothing works on it.. :-/
[03:34] <idhwang> HI..
[03:34] <HymnToLife> like on servers, I'm thinking of switching my Linux serve to BSD
[03:34] <TheOmnipotentWan> Haha...I guess that works.
[03:34] <biovore> server it works good
[03:34] <HymnToLife> so I can say "I'm running BSD unlike you fools who run Linux" :p
[03:34] <jimcooncat> do you get such good chat support though
[03:35] <{alejandro}> haha
[03:35] <{alejandro}> which is promptly ruined by rabble rousers etc. etc.
[03:35] <biovore> openbsd has a compiler.. just build your apps for it.. :-P
[03:35] <eneried> dopes anybody know what yahoo messnger is avalilable on linux?
[03:35] <HymnToLife> eneried> gaim, kopete...
[03:35] <TheOmnipotentWan> Unfortunately, I know nada about programming.  I'm the definition of an end user.
[03:35] <biovore> eneried: I think gaim dose it
[03:35] <{alejandro}> eneried gaim will do it
[03:35] <jimcooncat> eneried, yahoo has one, most use gaim, some use gyach-e
[03:36] <{alejandro}> eneried or any other multi-protocol IM client
[03:36] <eneried> another different to gaim?
[03:36] <{alejandro}> Kopete
[03:36] <{alejandro}> enereied what desktop you using
[03:36] <plex0r> PROBLEM...
[03:36] <plex0r> orinoco gold card is not being recognized :-/
[03:36] <eneried> jimcooncat, gyach?
[03:37] <jimcooncat> gyach-e, yahoo messenger-like with webcam
[03:37] <muraii__> {alejandro}: Okay, so, another question: do you see a distinguishable difference between Blender 2.37 (the one in the Ubuntu repository) and 2.41?
[03:37] <jimcooncat> manual install, very experimental
[03:37] <muraii__> : knows this isn't Blender 3D support, BTW.
[03:37] <muraii__> Er...
[03:37] <{alejandro}> muraii__ 2.41 has probably got more
[03:38] <plex0r> yeah...
[03:38] <plex0r> no one?
[03:38] <{alejandro}> muraii__ I haven't used it, but may try it on my OSX box
[03:38] <eneried> jimcooncat, thanks :)
[03:38] <jimcooncat> only does yahoo, best one I've seen for IM addicts
[03:38] <{alejandro}> muraii__ if you are having issues with installing 2.41 2.37 will do fine
[03:38] <muraii__> {alejandro}: Yeah, I have a 10.3.9 system (haven't gone Tiger yet), but the Ubuntu machine is the one I feel better working on.
[03:39] <muraii__> {alejandro}: Yeah, I figured.
[03:39] <muraii__> You know, though: newer, faster, better.  The documentation I managed to read implied that 2.41 was a fairly seminal release.
[03:39] <dbarnett> is there an OSS music editor, like Acid Pro or the like
[03:41] <muraii> dbarnett: Does Audion qualify?
[03:41] <{alejandro}> muraii dapper has the version you are looking for
[03:41] <Edison> hi everyone! does anyone know how to use webcam with linux??
[03:41] <{alejandro}> (I didn't realize it, myself)
[03:42] <Edison> cause i have one but i used with windows
[03:42] <Edison> now i dont know how to use it with ubuntu
[03:42] <jimcooncat> Edison, I've been studying webcams
[03:42] <dbarnett> muraii: I don't see Audion in synaptic
[03:42] <muraii> {alejandro}: Yeah, I read someone's post who'd switched to Dapper repositories and installed to Breezy with nary a problem.
[03:42] <jimcooncat> Edison, first you should get it working with camorama
[03:42] <{alejandro}> muraii might as well upgrade to dapper
[03:42] <muraii> dbarnett: Crap, OS X only.
[03:42] <muraii> Sorry.
[03:42] <{alejandro}> and dbarnett audion isn't a linux app
[03:43] <dbarnett> no worries
[03:43] <{alejandro}> yeah
[03:43] <dbarnett> I found one once and I can't remember the name!
[03:43] <muraii> {alejandro}: Is dapper ready for prime time?
[03:43] <jimcooncat> Edison, then figure out what you want to do with it: post to web pages, use Ekiga, iM, or what
[03:43] <eneried> dapper works good with breezy packages
[03:43] <{alejandro}> but dbarnett there are a bunch
[03:43] <eneried> i'm usig it in this way :)
[03:43] <{alejandro}> dbarnett poke around in synaptic
[03:43] <eneried> not all the breezy packages, but some,
[03:43] <dbarnett> nod, I am
[03:43] <Edison> ok let me try camorama.....
[03:43] <eneried> :)
[03:43] <Edison> to see whats that about
[03:43] <{alejandro}> dbarnett audacity is my fave
[03:44] <Edison> cause is the first time i heard that program
[03:44] <jimcooncat> Edison, if you have problems getting the stream going you need a driver
[03:44] <dbarnett> {alejandro}: thanks I'll try it
[03:44] <jimcooncat> !tell Edison about webcam
[03:44] <Zero|Popcorn> Hey I need some help, my system hangs on Starting hot plug subsystem, I know this is asked alot but I don't know what to do :(
[03:45] <Edison> thank u for the info
[03:45] <AngryElf> hey all, i just ran nvidia's newes *.run and everything was fine until i rebooted then I get (EE) Failed to initialize nvidia kernel module --- but modprobe nvidia && /etc/init.d/gdm restart does not work either
[03:45] <Zero|Popcorn> Does anyone know how to help me?
[03:46] <muraii> dbarnett: http://linux-sound.org/one-page.html
[03:46] <Edison> have u try easey cam2??
[03:46] <Zero|Popcorn> for hotplug?
[03:46] <jimcooncat> Zero|Popcorn, someone who knows more than me would need more info from you
[03:46] <dbarnett> muraii: thanks!
[03:47] <Zero|Popcorn> grahh please help me
[03:47] <biovore> Zero|Popcorn: you can specify nohotplug as a kernel option.. but I will disable all the automagical kernel hardware detection..
[03:47] <Zero|Popcorn> So how do I do this?
[03:47] <jimcooncat> Edison, no I haven't tried that one
[03:47] <muraii_> Zero|Popcorn: You can hit CTRL + C right as that part is coming up, and you'll skip it.
[03:47] <Edison> ummmm ok
[03:47] <Zero|Popcorn> it won't i've tried:(
[03:47] <muraii_> That's not elegant, but it works.
[03:47] <jimcooncat> I'm using camserve but will switch to motion when I figure it out
[03:47] <muraii_> Zero|Popcorn: You have to be quick.
[03:48] <Edison> so il to use camorama first then
[03:48] <biovore> Zero|Popcorn: edit your boot options in grub (hit esc, and the e)
[03:48] <muraii_> Zero|Popcorn: In my experience, you have about a second.
[03:48] <Edison> try
[03:48] <jimcooncat> Edison, camorama will tell you if your webcam's putting out
[03:48] <Zero|Popcorn> kk ty
[03:48] <Edison> ok thanks
[03:48] <jimcooncat> So it's a good first app to try before the others
[03:48] <muraii_> biovore: Yeah, that sounds smarter.
[03:48] <runt> yo was up guys
[03:48] <slipaway172> can somebody tell me if phproxy.jumingcrab.com is up.....i do have my server as a ubuntu machine
[03:49] <runt> dude was is up with yall and all this ubuntu stuff
[03:49] <jimcooncat> runt we have fun
[03:49] <drexelxxxx> it is an ubuntu channel lol
[03:49] <fwp> uh... this is #ubuntu
[03:49] <fwp> lol
[03:49] <slipaway172> i know
[03:49] <Edison> it says: could not connect to video device
[03:50] <Edison> so what do i do???
[03:50] <muraii_> Edison: Drink.
[03:50] <Edison> lol
[03:50] <runt> i no but like im not a comp. geek so is it that hard to run ubuntu or something
[03:50] <jimcooncat> !tell Edison about webcam
[03:50] <Edison> hahahaha
[03:50] <NickGarvey> you can boot form an extended partition right?
[03:50] <runt> like can i do it if im not smart
[03:50] <runt> wat
[03:50] <jimcooncat> you'll need a driver
[03:50] <NickGarvey> sorry muraii, I had tacos
[03:50] <muraii_> NickGarvey: That sounds good.
[03:50] <fwp> lol
[03:51] <NickGarvey> :)
[03:51] <jimcooncat> runt, sure you can
[03:51] <theshibboleth> hello (again). I'm looking for a video editor I can use to take images, put them together, and export them as an mpg movie
[03:51] <muraii_> I wonder if I could get Ubuntu to compile for the 7.15 Hz Motorolla 68000 in my Amiga 500.
[03:51] <muraii_> That'd be a hoot.
[03:51] <muraii_> Or use the A500 as a firewall.
[03:52] <BlueEalge> muraii_: The a500 is to prone to spontaneous combustion to be good as a firewall. :p
[03:52] <doms> pangittttttttttttttttttt
[03:52] <doms> creative how it works
[03:53] <doms> how run it under camorama /dev/video error
[03:53] <muraii_> BlueEalge: Certainly not from the processor.  Maybe because of fumes from the degrading plastic.
[03:54] <BlueEalge> muraii_: ofcourse. :)
[03:54] <theshibboleth> anyone have any ideas?
[03:54] <drexelxxxx> Anybody had any luck installing KQEMU/
[03:54] <drexelxxxx> ?
[03:55] <biovore> theshibboleth: mplayer and mencoder can do that (take a series of jpeg,pngs to make into a movie
[03:55] <biovore> but its a confussing process
[03:55] <theshibboleth> biovore:ok... I'll look into it. thanks
[03:56] <muraii_> theshibboleth: You might see if Blender3D would work for that.
[03:56] <muraii_> I think the newest version has compositing functions.
[03:56] <theshibboleth> muraii:k
[03:57] <green_earz> theshibboleth: and for a video editor >   kino
[03:57] <MrPockets> how does one go about changing the logon manager?
[03:57] <muraii_> theshibboleth: It should be noted that I don't really have a clue about what I'm talking about.  I mean well, though.
[03:58] <__mikem> dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:58] <__mikem> or dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:58] <theshibboleth> green_earz: I tried kino, but I can't figure out how to import a picture file or if that's even possible
[04:00] <mo0se> how do you install an .rpm... thingie?
[04:01] <Wes> mo0se: i've had luck with alien
[04:01] <jobezone> mo0se: you usually shouldn't, but if necessary do 'sudo alien -i package.rmp'
[04:01] <Wes> mo0se: apt-get install alien fakeroot
[04:01] <MrPockets> someone wanna refresh my memory on changing the logon manager?
[04:01] <mo0se> i'm new to linux... heheh...
[04:01] <mo0se> no idea what you guys just said...
[04:02] <mo0se> i don't even know how to change the ip of my computer...
[04:02] <mo0se> it says press the adminstrator mode..
[04:02] <Edison> WHEN I TRY TO INSTALL THE CAMERA MONITOR IT SAYS: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop
[04:02] <mo0se> but i can't find that button.
[04:02] <mo0se> meh.
[04:02] <chip42> mo0se: if that is the case, don't install the rpm. that is for distros that use redhat package management, which ubuntu does not. just gonna mess something up in the longrun
[04:03] <chip42> mo0se: ie find a .deb in the repositories instead
[04:03] <mo0se> ohh.
[04:03] <mo0se> okay.
[04:03] <mo0se> there isn't one.
[04:03] <MrPockets> ...no, nothing?
[04:03] <Flannel> mo0se: which program?
[04:04] <mo0se> i'm trying to install something that'll let me see into my windows ntfs partition.
[04:04] <Flannel> !ntfs
[04:04] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:04] <chip42> MrPockets: i think __mikem mentioned it earlier.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm ... or something to that effect
[04:04] <Flannel> follow that guide ;)
[04:04] <mo0se> coool.
[04:04] <thomasM> very.
[04:04] <muraii> MrPockets: Um...do you mean replace GDM with KDM, or apply a theme to the existing logon manager?
[04:04] <Edison>  WHEN I TRY TO INSTALL THE CAMERA MONITOR IT SAYS: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop
[04:04] <MrPockets> i just wanna apply the theme
[04:05] <thomasM> easy on the caps...
[04:05] <__mikem> sudo dpkg-reconfigure should get the job done
[04:05] <__mikem> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm rather
[04:05] <Flannel> Edison: don't use caps, and we heard you the first time... 3 minutes ago.  If no one responds, they don't know, or are busy.  Anyway, in regards to your question, do you have build-essential installed?
[04:05] <mo0se> the drive is mounted.
[04:05] <Edison> sorry
[04:06] <mo0se> i can already see it in konqueror...
[04:06] <Edison> whats that??
[04:06] <muraii> MrPockets: I could only point you to the Ubuntu wiki or some such, basically a Googling session; but I know it's pretty simple.
[04:06] <Edison> is just that im new using ubuntu
[04:07] <Flannel> Edison: build-essentials is the compiler and stuff required to compile stuff.  Anyway, are you sure you have to build from source?
[04:07] <Edison> yes
[04:07] <Flannel> Edison: usually you can find something that'll work in the repositories
[04:07] <mo0se> it says "could not enter folder /media/sda2." which is my windows partition.
[04:07] <MrPockets> whats the wiki url?
[04:07] <jobezone> MrPockets: you can configure GDM in System->Administration->Login greeter (or something simillar)
[04:08] <Flannel> MrPockets: wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:08] <MrPockets> ah thats what i was loking for, thanks jobezone
[04:09] <jobezone> MrPockets: welcome
[04:09] <ablyss> jobezone, sudo gdmsetup works too
[04:10] <mo0se> how do i run the terminal?
[04:10] <Wes> Edison: make  sure there's a makefile in your directory
[04:10] <jobezone> ablyss: ah, yes, you're right
[04:10] <MrPockets> now is there anyway i can make the "lock screen" feature go to the Logon manager like Winblows does instead of the screen sdaver
[04:10] <Wes> Edison: and make sure it has target "install" defined.
[04:10] <scarn> i cant seem to untar an .tar.gz. its says "file not a .tar.gz or tar archive" ecven though it is
[04:10] <dbarnett> mo0se: applications->Accesories->terminal
[04:11] <intelikey> alt+f2  type xterm   or what ever term you have.
[04:11] <dbarnett> mo0se: you can right click on it and add it to the toolbar
[04:11] <Edison> yeah it does have a install file
[04:11] <Edison> but it is not executing it
[04:11] <Wes> Edison: Makefile
[04:11] <muraii_> scarn: tar -xfv <filename>
[04:12] <sexytrini> HELLO everyone
[04:12] <bimberi> Edison: if the file is called INSTALL it is usually a text file describing how to install
[04:12] <NickGarvey> hello
[04:12] <muraii_> ...unless it's a .gz file, in which case you'll run "tar -xzfv <filename>"
[04:12] <mo0se> i installed that script but i still get an error when trying to access the partition.
[04:12] <Edison> yeah i know im following the steps
[04:12] <sexytrini> i have a question? How do i set up a wirless network with ubuntu?
[04:12] <bimberi> Edison: kk
[04:12] <intelikey> can f come before v in that chain muraii ?
[04:13] <scorchsaber> Hey, can anybody tell me why Runescape doesn't work on my linux computer?
[04:13] <manji> hey, is pine in the apt repositories?
[04:13] <jobezone> intelikey: yes :)
[04:13] <muraii_> intelikey: I'm pretty sure it can.  You don't even need the v, I'm sure.
[04:13] <Flannel> manji: yes
[04:13] <manji> Flannel: what name is it under? couldnt find it myself
[04:13] <intelikey> yes you don't need the v   but i thought that what ever followed the f had to be the file name
[04:14] <muraii_> intelikey: If it's a .gz file, though, I think the "z" has to come immediately after the "x", so tar will ungzip the file before untarring it.
[04:14] <scarn> auraii_ i am installing a new login screen. by choosing Install New Theme. and i get the error. can i install it directly?
[04:14] <bimberi> pine is not in the repos - there are issues with its license (iirc)
[04:14] <intelikey> muraii or before the x
[04:14] <muraii_> intelikey: No, you can switch them around, the f and the v.
[04:14] <manji> bimberi: hmmmm, any easy way to get it other than source?
[04:14] <sexytrini> i have a question? How do i set up a wirless network with ubuntu?
[04:15] <scorchsaber> Is there any reason that runescape does not work on my ubuntu desktop? Does it use some windows specific API, or something?
[04:15] <muraii_> scarn: Which error?
[04:15] <MrPockets> now is there anyway i can make the "lock screen" feature go to the Logon manager like Winblows does instead of the screen sdaver
[04:15] <NickGarvey> MrPockets: log out and save session instead?
[04:15] <Flannel> manji: erm, apparently it's not.  Odd.  Especialyl considering pgp4pine is in them, and it depends on pine.
[04:15] <intelikey> ok  what are some good light weight apps for x  ?
[04:15] <scarn> auraii  "file not a .tar.gz or tar archive"
[04:15] <MrPockets> dont wanna log out
[04:16] <scarn> but it is a tar.gz
[04:16] <muraii_> scarn: What is the filename?
[04:16] <manji> Flannel: yeah, somebody just told me that it isnt there because of licensing issues
[04:16] <Flannel> manji: eh, go figure.  You can compile it yourself though, obvously.
[04:16] <bimberi> manji: i'm not sure - you could try a debian package (if there is one) - make sure any uninstalled dependencies come from ubuntu repos though
[04:16] <scarn> auraii_ 29032-humanblue1.tar.gz
[04:17] <sexytrini> helppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[04:17] <manji> and oh yeah, is anyone else having trouble getting enlightenment16? apt-get seems to be having trouble connecting to it?
[04:17] <NickGarvey> sexytrini: doing that won't help you..
[04:17] <intelikey> now muraii_  as i was saying what ever follows the f has to be the file name.  and yes i just tested it.
[04:17] <bimberi> manji: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7589
[04:17] <jobezone> MrPockets: mmm... I don't think so, at least in a obvious way. You can search for themes for GDM which may have that option, or create/change a theme and add it. But I don't know how to do it.
[04:18] <scarn> yea, thats not sexy atall ;p
[04:18] <MrPockets> hmm
[04:18] <MrPockets> thanks man
[04:18] <muraii_> scarn: The only thing I can think of is that someone named the file with those extensions, but it actually wasn't compressed to those formats.
[04:18] <muraii_> ...but I don't know.
[04:18] <intelikey> tar -xzfv file.tar.gz  will fail with  "tar: v: Cannot open: No such file or directory"   while tar -xzvf file.tar.gz will work.
[04:18] <scarn> ok, ill try and google it
[04:18] <DBO> anyone ever have an issue with smeg's changes not showing up?
[04:19] <manji> bimberi: thanks much man
[04:19] <chip42> scarn: use the file command to confirm its what you think it is
[04:19] <bimberi> manji: np :)
[04:19] <intelikey> muraii_ are you paying attention ?
[04:19] <muraii_> intelikey: I'm happy to be to be wrong.  I had thought I'd swapped them in my experience, but I might be wrong.
[04:19] <muraii_> intelikey: Um, yes.
[04:19] <intelikey> ok.
[04:19] <scarn> oh and, sorry for mispelling your name muraii_ . the m is blurred a bit to look like an a here heh
[04:19] <muraii_> scarn: I don't mind.
[04:20] <scarn> when highlighted
[04:20] <scarn> ;)
[04:20] <AngryElf> hmm, so i was trying to link up a common /etc/hosts file among a bunch of computers, and in the process i rm'd the one on this box......now I get  sudo:unable to look up this_box_hostname via gethostname()
[04:20] <AngryElf> how can I work around that?
[04:20] <dbarnett> bah, it seems like the .deb is broken for lillypond
[04:20] <muraii_> scarn: I'm just using ircss's autocomplete feature, so I've probably obviated a few mispellings of your name, too.
[04:20] <intelikey> jobezone did you note what i just said ?
[04:21] <scarn> chip42 how do i do that exactly?
[04:21] <jobezone> sexytrini: there are a few pages at wiki.ubuntu.com about setting up wireless. This one is about chipsets and their support : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessChipsets
[04:21] <manji> last question...is there a repository i can add that has mplayer-i386?
[04:21] <jobezone> intelikey: yes, aparently, the position of v matters?
[04:21] <NickGarvey> manji: should be in universe or multiverse
[04:21] <muraii_> Rather, seems the position of "f" matters.
[04:21] <chip42> scarn: heh. well ..man file... would have told you more than you wanted to know... but its just... file filename
[04:21] <manji> NickGarvey: thats my problem...its not in there (i have no idea why its not showing up for me, everyone says its there)
[04:21] <scarn> kk
[04:21] <chip42> scarn: and it will spit out the filetype
[04:22] <slavik> NickGarvey: gentoo people suck
[04:22] <bimberi> manji: what architecture are you using (i386, ppc, amd64)?
[04:22] <intelikey> jobezone it is more the fact that f means that the next thing is the file name.  not really important where v is just that f has to be followed by the file name.
[04:22] <manji> slavik: hey man, gentoo's kewl, no wars here today
[04:22] <bimberi> manji: also note that it's mplayer-386 (no "i")
[04:22] <manji> bimberi: im on i386
[04:22] <slavik> I am not starting a war ...
[04:23] <jobezone> intelikey: ahhhhhhhh...
[04:23] <manji> slavik: well, 'gentoo people suck' is a little hostile, though, wouldnt you say?
[04:23] <biovore> Moooo
[04:23] <slavik> manji: it has truth in it :P
[04:23] <biovore> :-P
[04:23] <chip42> manji: don't even bother. he's trolling and your in the nets! ;)
[04:23] <NickGarvey> slavik: haha they aren't as new person tolerant I guess
[04:23] <DBO> vacuums suck, and thats something we all can agree on, now lets move on
[04:23] <manji> chip42: but of course, thats why im stopping
[04:24] <slavik> NickGarvey: yea
[04:24] <slavik> anyway ...
[04:24] <muraii_> scarn: Any luck?
[04:24] <manji> NickGarvey: actually i really liked the gentoo irc channels, they are very helpful
[04:24] <slavik> upgrade to dapper, network manager is awesome
[04:24] <Zero|Popcorn> ok, here's my issue, I can bypass the hotplug system but then it says my displays don't work and exerv wont work then it takes me to some command screen:( please help
[04:24] <muraii_> I'm curious to know what's going on with your file.
[04:24] <slavik> my first irc gentoo run in started with an answer of 'rtfm'
[04:25] <me2win> slavik: nice
[04:25] <Zero|Popcorn> Does anyone know what is wrong?
[04:25] <me2win> slavik: welcome to the brighter side of linux
[04:25] <manji> slavik: well that admittedly is a bad response, but i have never run into that kind of harshness before (except in the debian channels ;-))
[04:25] <me2win> manji: yeah debian chans are bad
[04:25] <biovore> or #freebsd
[04:25] <DBO> I swear Debian users are really just bots that can only say RTFM...
[04:25] <biovore> :-P
[04:25] <manji> DBO: isnt that true...?
[04:25] <intelikey>     for future refferance   tar -vzxf file.tgz    works  the z x v can be in any order   but f has to be followed by the file name.
[04:26] <DBO> manji, thats what Mark told me
[04:26] <slavik> manji: them too
[04:26] <manji> slavik: do you run gentoo?
[04:26] <slavik> no
[04:26] <slavik> thank god
[04:26] <me2win> gentoo is for ricers
[04:26] <Zero|Popcorn> :biovore, I bypassed the hotplugg system but then it says xserv displays don't work, then it takes me to a comman scrren...?
[04:26] <me2win> :P
[04:26] <manji> slavik: lol, why such a pull-back response?
[04:26] <AngryElf> how do i make a program run as root after a user logs in?
[04:26] <biovore> Zero|Popcorn: yeah.. no hardware autodetection
[04:26] <slavik> I don't feel like compiling EVERY package I feel like installing and reinstalling 20 times
[04:26] <NickGarvey> slavik: hmm.. well it seems that they only got hostle after you complain about the compile time heh
[04:26] <Zero|Popcorn> How do I set it up?
[04:26] <manji> me2win: slavik: i personally love gentoo
[04:27] <muraii_> I'm all for friendliness and providing help to get people to use a system that exposes the computer to them; but endemic to the current effort is this idea that Linux has to be made to look and act like Windows, at least superficially, to win people over.  I'm kind of sick of seeing KDE and Gnome desktops that mimic Win.  It's pretty much not the point.
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[04:27] <biovore> Zero|Popcorn: thats a very comlicated subject there..
[04:27] <NickGarvey> manji: I'm working on installing it now
[04:27] <NickGarvey> :)
[04:27] <Zero|Popcorn> BIOS?
[04:27] <muraii_> intelikey: Thanks for sharing.
[04:27] <biovore> Zero|Popcorn: no linux low level hacking..  manual installing modules and such
[04:27] <me2win> If I was gonan use something other than ubuntu
[04:27] <muraii_> I had stopped experimenting when I got tar to work, but now I know.
[04:27] <me2win> it would probably be Suse, or Slackware
[04:27] <manji> NickGarvey: *whisperwhisper* its actually my fav distro *whisper* but ubuntu is a close second
[04:27] <slavik> muraii_: do you want to attracks windows users? that attitude won't get them
[04:27] <Zero|Popcorn> Where can I find some support on this?
[04:28] <slavik> Zero|Popcorn: what ya need help with?
[04:28] <hephaistos> hey guys, i am having some trouble with my apt... could somebody give me his /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[04:28] <NickGarvey> me2win: suse has treated me well, running it now
[04:28] <Zero|Popcorn> Getting XSERV display to work.
[04:28] <slavik> !sources
[04:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:28] <NickGarvey> hephaistos: sure one second
[04:28] <me2win> NickGarvey: yeah, suse r0x
[04:28] <hephaistos> thx ;)
[04:28] <biovore> Zero|Popcorn: login and try startx
[04:28] <DBO> shhhh, Im a closet Novell fanboy
[04:28] <muraii_> slavik: I offer that if we pervert the quality of what Linux (or BSD or whatever) in an effort to pull Windows users over, we're losing almost as much ground as we're gaining.
[04:28] <NickGarvey> hephaistos: http://nickgarvey.no-ip.org/sources.list
[04:29] <Zero|Popcorn> type that in the command line?
[04:29] <manji> NickGarvey: me2win: i got tired of SuSE fairly quickly...having to run through yast to do much of anything got slightly annoying. but it is a solid distro, and i would take it any day over redhat/fedora
[04:29] <hephaistos> thx ;)
[04:29] <biovore> yup.. should start xwindows
[04:29] <Zero|Popcorn> yty brb
[04:29] <slavik> Zero|Popcorn: use pastebin and paste us any errors it gives you. do not paste to channel
[04:29] <Zero|Popcorn> kk
[04:29] <muraii_> I'm not saying everyone should go commando and hit the command line only.  I'm saying that it's a little tiring to see stuff on art.gnome.org that bloats toward cloning the look of Windows GUI.
[04:30] <me2win> tr00
[04:30] <NickGarvey> manji: yeah yast can be annoying but its pretty nice for some things too,  I don't like how freaking long it takes to install a package though, apt-get is so much faster/better
[04:30] <muraii_> slavik: That's just me, though.
[04:30] <muraii_> slavik: It's something of a n00b perspective.  I've only been "here" for a month or so.
[04:30] <NickGarvey> muraii_: I agree, I'd rather use linux for new and innovative things then recreations of windows (mm XGL is so pretty...)
[04:31] <intelikey> muraii_ hehhe.  i'll be the one to say.   go commando   gui is for kids games.
[04:31] <manji> NickGarvey: i guess thats why i like gentoo, i have plenty of patience to deal with compiling sources
[04:31] <NickGarvey> manji: me too, which is why I am going to try gentoo
[04:31] <NickGarvey> manji: I always go for sources over binaries
[04:31] <muraii_> slavik: I see it not unlike the candy vitamins you see: the idea is to fool kids into maintaining their health, as easily as possible; but it's a short-circuit.
[04:31] <slavik> muraii_: isn't KDE closer to windows? I wanted to try gnome because I wanted to try something different from KDE ...
[04:31] <manji> NickGarvey: if you need any help with it, dont hesitate to ask yours truly (i have been using gentoo for many years)
[04:31] <manji> NickGarvey: im happy to help
[04:32] <NickGarvey> manji: :) thanks a lot
[04:32] <intelikey> slavik  try blackbox
[04:32] <muraii_> slavik: I actually don't know.  Installed Ubuntu, played with my Gnome desktop for a while before I realized that it didn't strip enough of the garbage away that I wanted, so I installed Openbox 3 and haven't looked back.
[04:32] <manji> intelikey: slavik: my fav minimalistic wm: fluxbox
[04:33] <intelikey> bb is where flux came from
[04:33] <slavik> intelikey: I tried blackbox ... was too minimalist for me
[04:33] <muraii_> slavik: It's still graphical, and there's nothing wrong with using a variety of interface paradigms.  Gnome just felt kind of crowded and a little bloated, though not as much as what I've heard KDE can be.
[04:33] <manji> intelikey: slavik: tue, and it essentially uses the same code with major improvements, which is why i like it. and the fact that it is backwards-compatible with bb doesnt hurt, either
[04:33] <mram> muraii_: have you tried xfce?
[04:33] <slavik> muraii_: imo, KDE is 'larger' than gnome
[04:34] <NickGarvey> xfce is larger than flux but smaller than gnome and kde
[04:34] <intelikey> :)
[04:34] <NickGarvey> its a perfect inbetween, I like it a lot
[04:34] <intelikey> xfce4
[04:34] <intelikey> icewmlight
[04:34] <muraii_> I used MenuMaker, and it's freakin' insane how big a menu it gives you.  I don't really want to have every last application available to me through the right-click menu.  Just the core stuff.  Anything else, I can launch from a command line (so far, anyway).
[04:34] <intelikey> fvwm
[04:34] <jobezone> wmaker
[04:35] <muraii_> mram: No.  I was thinking of toying with Zenwalk 2 distro, which comes outta the box with xfce.
[04:35] <intelikey> ya beet me to that one.... i'll quit now.
[04:35] <Wes> muraii_: is openbox related to flux or blackbox?
[04:35] <mram> i tired xfce but came back to gnome because I am a gnome fan but I heard the new xfce with thundra file manager is pretty good
[04:35] <muraii_> Wes: They're cousins, though Openbox 3 doesn't have any of the legacy code anymore.  Rewritten completely, if memory serves.
[04:36] <mram> muraii_: yah i know a guy who uses zenwalk but he converted over to ubuntu when told him how great it is ;-)
[04:36] <intelikey> i kinda like gentoo on bb for a ubuntu setup
[04:37] <muraii_> mram: The file manager is the tricky thing.  I've got Nautilus in my right-click menu, but it wants to throw an icon on my desktop for a network drive I have (the Mac).  Plus, I have to switch to a different desktop to get to my Openbox 3 right-click menu.  I need to find a file manager that doesn't hijack my menu.xml settings.
[04:37] <manji> NickGarvey: hey, your sources.list (on your site) is tested, used, and working by you?
[04:37] <manji> NickGarvey: i could use a good sources file to get what i need
[04:37] <hephaistos> NickGarvey: I get this message, even with your file: "Couldn't stat source package list" ! is the server down, or did i screw up my system even more than i thought ?
[04:37] <intelikey> but most people don't seem to care much for gentoo, not iconsh enough i guess.
[04:38] <NickGarvey> manji: I haven't had any problems with it but I will look it over before I start giving it around
[04:38] <NickGarvey> hephaistos: did you apt-get update?
[04:38] <mram> muraii_: hmm yeah i have my ssh drive and my network drive on the desktop also, and want to get right of
[04:38] <muraii_> mram: Yeah, Zenwalk, being a Slackware derivative, sounds a bit more intermediate/advanced than I have the time to try out.
[04:38] <hephaistos> yep
[04:38] <NickGarvey> hephaistos: let me look it over.. worked fine for me..
[04:38] <muraii_> mram: I want no icons at all.  I never use 'em, so they're just clutter.
[04:38] <muraii_> Key binding is essential.
[04:38] <NickGarvey> I'd delete the opera line..
[04:39] <doms> why i cant preview my helloworld.php in my firefox
[04:39] <mram> muraii_: i hear you on the no icons thing
[04:39] <NickGarvey> hephaistos: and maybe line 2 and 3
[04:39] <jobezone> muraii_: I think you can launch nautilus with no desktop... perhaps nautilus --no-desktop ? I'm not sure how
[04:39] <intelikey> wow three of you singing my song....
[04:39] <NickGarvey> hephaistos: although it runs fine for me
[04:39] <muraii_> jobezone: Yeah, I have that in the switches.  Maybe I have a typo or something.
[04:40] <hephaistos> apt-get update tells me that i may want to run apt-get update????!!!!!! Yea, it seams to be a problem with .nl servers(seems to have no key?!)
[04:40] <muraii_> jobezone: That's EXACTLY what's at work.  I have "nodesktop" instead of "no-desktop".
[04:41] <NickGarvey> hephaistos: that would be it
[04:41] <NickGarvey> hephaistos: register the keys
[04:41] <hephaistos> how ?
[04:41] <NickGarvey> hephaistos: less /apt/etc/sources.list
[04:41] <_jason> muraii_: in gconf /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[04:41] <NickGarvey> hephaistos: says in the first 20 lines of the file
[04:41] <Zero|Popcorn> Biovore: startx - no screens found
[04:41] <hephaistos> yea
[04:41] <jobezone> muraii_: and does it work now?
[04:41] <_jason> muraii_: or maybe I am jumping into the middle of something and you are not using gnome :P
[04:42] <sapaki> hi how are you?
[04:42] <omule> hi
[04:42] <NickGarvey> hello
[04:43] <jobezone> _jason: he's using nautilus on xfce4, but doesn't want nautilus to put a desktop.
[04:43] <Zero|Popcorn> I know this is a Ubuntu channel but how do I delete Ubuntu to install another distro, without having grub giving me errors when Ipop a new cd in?
[04:43] <omule> anybody else have any problems playing audio and video on breezy?
[04:43] <_jason> ah, /me remembers to /lastlog next time
[04:44] <TheMuso> Does anybody have any idea on how to force a laptop to full CPU usage if it has frequency scaling?
[04:44] <thomasM> hello, I am having trouble generating sources from cvs. I download the cvs sources, run autogen.sh, and i get errors when checking for "forbidden M4 macros"        Am i missing something??
[04:44] <intelikey> Zero|Popcorn rm all but /boot
[04:44] <muraii_> jobezone: Works perfectly now.
[04:44] <TheMuso> thomasM: Is this a GNOME application you are trying to build?
[04:44] <muraii_> _jason: Oh, no, not using Gnome.  But thanks for the hint.
[04:44] <sapaki> how can i install kde gui on ubuntu
[04:44] <_jason> !kde
[04:44] <ubotu> kde is probably A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[04:45] <jobezone> thomasM: you can use the cpu frequency applet, if you're using gnome. But, you have to make it setuid
[04:45] <Zero|Popcorn> intelikey: What does that mean?
[04:45] <intelikey> Zero|Popcorn everything grub needs is in /boot and the mbr
[04:45] <muraii_> _jason: I have very little idea of the topology of the filesystem.
[04:45] <jobezone> thomasM: and to do that, let me find a page...
[04:45] <thomasM> TheMuso: Yes i've tried both Banshee CVS and Rhythmbox CVS
[04:45] <thomasM> jobezone: You are talking to the wrong person!!
[04:45] <TheMuso> Have you got the gnome-common package installed? That might help.
[04:45] <_jason> muraii_: actually gconf is kind of like a database for gnome and that path I gave was just a key in the gconf database
[04:46] <thomasM> TheMuso: i will try that. I'm in between Breezy and Dapper. I expected difficulties. Thankyou.
[04:46] <thomasM> TheMuso: I already had that.
[04:46] <muraii_> So, if I've installed Blender but the display is funky, e.g. when I mouse over buttons or menu items, they're blanked out as if the mouse has pulled a grey layer over them, where should I start looking?
[04:46] <Zero|Popcorn> So how do I delete all the other stuff to install another one?
[04:46] <jobezone> thomasM: ooops, sorry
[04:46] <TheMuso> thomasM: Got libtool installed?
[04:46] <mphill> is it possible in gnome for when a user puts the mouse on the side of the screen is switches to a new window?
[04:46] <anandaputra> hi all..
[04:46] <muraii_> NVidia Riva TNT2, with the legacy driver.
[04:46] <anandaputra> i need help..
[04:46] <NickGarvey> hello
[04:46] <jobezone> TheMuso: you can use the cpu frequency applet, if you're using gnome. But, you have to make it setuid
[04:46] <NickGarvey> ask away anandaputra, you are in the right place :)
[04:46] <anandaputra> i'm using dapper drake as desktop.
[04:46] <intelikey> Zero|Popcorn rm it
[04:46] <thomasM> TheMuso: Yes it was installed.
[04:47] <muraii_> "nvidia" rather than "nv" as the driver in X prefs.
[04:47] <Zero|Popcorn> rm?
[04:47] <NickGarvey> !tell anandaputra about dapper
[04:47] <intelikey> rm
[04:47] <jobezone> TheMuso: and to do that, see this page: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/
[04:47] <TheMuso> jobezone: Thanks.
[04:47] <Zero|Popcorn> What does the mean, I'm very new to linux
[04:47] <muraii_> I couldn't get OpenGL screensavers to work right until I made that driver change.
[04:47] <anandaputra> i want to transfer an image from cell phone via bluetooth..
[04:47] <thomasM> TheMuso: Any other ideas?
[04:47] <anandaputra> anyone could guide me how to do it?
[04:47] <TheMuso> thomasM: Without knowing what m4 macros are missing, it is hard to say.
[04:48] <muraii_> anandaputra: Anything at wiki.ubuntu.org that would explain some of that?
[04:48] <mphill> Zero|Popcorn, rm is short for remove, its the same as DOS's del command, sort of
[04:48] <thomasM> TheMuso: Can I privately message you with them?
[04:48] <Zero|Popcorn> kk ty
[04:49] <matthew_w> Hey - my bit torrent downloads are going INCREDIBLY SLOWLY because ( I think ) of ubuntu denying incoming connections, so less bandwidth is being alotted to me and I'm classed as a leecher.... how can I allow more incoming connections?
[04:49] <TheMuso> thomasM: Sure.
[04:49] <TheMuso> jobezone: Thanks again.
[04:49] <thomasM> how many seeds do you have?
[04:49] <jobezone> TheMuso: no problem
[04:49] <matthew_w> thomasM; over 200
[04:49] <buckwild> has anyone here ever compiled a xmms plugin before?
[04:49] <muraii_> matthew_w: Wow, I tried a .torrent of Blender tonight, and it MAXED at, like, 3 kbps.
[04:49] <intelikey> zero|popcorn  something like   sudo init 1     then    " for this in `ls / -1 ` ;do rm `echo $this | grep -v boot` ;done "
[04:49] <NickGarvey> !anyone
[04:49] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[04:49] <anandaputra> i was read the wiki..
[04:49] <buckwild> I'd really like to compile this null output plugin for xmms but I have no idea how to do it?
[04:49] <TheMuso> thomasM: Feel fee to msg me, as I am going to leave the channel.
[04:49] <slavik> muraii_: on your gentoo system?
[04:49] <buckwild> ? = .
[04:49] <matthew_w> muraii_; yeah, I have a T1 line, and I'm getting 20 kb/s -_-
[04:50] <NickGarvey> buckwild: have build-essential? if not "sudo apt-get build-essential"
[04:50] <intelikey> oh add -R  to that rm string....
[04:50] <muraii_> slavik: Only system is an Ubuntu system.
[04:50] <NickGarvey> buckwild: if you are unsure, then you don't
[04:50] <thomasM> TheMuso: i just messaged you.
[04:50] <anandaputra> i already could connect to the device. but still dont know how to transfer the file from the device
[04:50] <muraii_> slavik: ...and the Mac, but that's really more my fiances.
[04:50] <hephaistos> think about your upload
[04:50] <TheMuso> thomasM: Are you registered with freenode? Because I haven't received anything.
[04:50] <muraii_> matthew_w: That pretty much blows.
[04:50] <matthew_w> muraii_; if I could find what I want on FTP I would get about 1.5MB/s lol
[04:51] <buckwild> nickGarvey: I need it tho, I'm using icecast to stream from XMMS and I want to install the null-output plugin, but there's none in the repositories
[04:51] <thomasM> TheMuso: no..
[04:51] <matthew_w> Which would speed up this 2gb download.  Anyway, if anyone knows how to open ports to incoming connections...
[04:51] <NickGarvey> buckwild: ok then apt-get the file I said
[04:51] <muraii_> matthew_w: I know; but reruns of Magnum PI aren't out there on FTP.  I've looked.
[04:51] <muraii_> ;)
[04:51] <matthew_w> Unfortunately :D
[04:51] <anandaputra> i also install gnome-bluetooth-manager.. but it can't find the device..
[04:51] <thomasM> TheMuso: no i'm not
[04:51] <buckwild> NickGarvey: I already have the build-essentials installed, what do I do from there? I always forget what the exact tar command is and such, if you could just give me an idiot example really quick that would be great
[04:52] <thomasM> TheMuso: i see the error messages now. Can I speak with you in a private channel?
[04:52] <anandaputra> but when i did "sudo hidd --search" it ound the device..
[04:52] <muraii_> buckwild: For tar commands, ask intelikey.
[04:52] <CokeNCode> hey, goodnight everyone, what do i need to download to play wmv files ?
[04:52] <TheMuso> thomasM: There is no priv channel, but we can just create one for the purpose.
[04:52] <NickGarvey> buckwild: :) is it a .tar.gz? if so then "tar xvfz filename.tar.gz"
[04:52] <anandaputra> is there any other frontend for connecting to bluetoot device?
[04:52] <muraii_> CokeNCode: I'd be surprised if VLC didn't work.
[04:52] <sneex> CokeNCode, you need to apt-get install w32codecs
[04:53] <buckwild> NickGarvey: yeah it is, okay then after the tar it's typically what after that?
[04:53] <thomasM> TheMuso: Yes i recieved your message
[04:53] <buckwild> NickGarvey: I'm gonna put this in a text file so I never have to feel like an idiot again
[04:53] <NickGarvey> buckwild: cd ./directory_of_file
[04:53] <WhitePerson> hi
[04:53] <TheMuso> thomasM: join #privchan
[04:53] <CokeNCode> sneex, thanks
[04:54] <buckwild> ok, then what
[04:54] <CokeNCode> muraii_, strangely enough, it doesn't open a few of my wmv files
[04:54] <NickGarvey> buckwild: then "less INSTALL" usually, if thats not there then "less README" normally, basically look for the readme
[04:54] <CokeNCode> I think it worked for everything also
[04:54] <NickGarvey> buckwild: although the default 3 commands are "./configure" "make" "sudo make install"
[04:54] <NickGarvey> buckwild: but reading the readme will never do you any harm, so do it
[04:54] <NickGarvey> :)
[04:54] <muraii_> NickGarvey, sneex : Just for your information, intelikey seemed to have made the case earlier that the "f" had to come at the end of the switch list, so "tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz" would work.  Also, I thought the "z" had to come immediately after the "x".  At least that's been my experience.
[04:54] <muraii_> CokeNCode: Wow.
[04:55] <muraii_> CokeNCode: Since I didn't know about w32codecs, it's good you asked the question.
[04:55] <NickGarvey> muraii_: wait, the order matters?
[04:55] <NickGarvey> muraii_: I do it in a different order everytime heh
[04:55] <slavik> muraii_: I used zxvf a lot ... no problem
[04:55] <buckwild> NickGarvey: no readme on this one, they like to let me fly without a safety net
[04:55] <muraii_> NickGarvey: I hadn't thought so until I couldn't get stuff to untar.
[04:55] <NickGarvey> muraii_: do an ls to be sure, it might be in all caps or such
[04:56] <NickGarvey> muraii_: odd, I generally hit the one I remember first and so on heh
[04:56] <muraii_> NickGarvey: I let the terminal autocomplete the filename, so that's not the issue.
[04:56] <sneex> i personally use tar --exclude file.tgz zxvf file.tgz ...files
[04:56] <muraii_> NickGarvey: I don't pretend I know what I'm doing, so you're forewarned.
[04:57] <mike930> is there a good personal finance program out there?
[04:57] <muraii_> mike930: I'm starting to try gnucash.
[04:57] <muraii_> It has a CRAPLOAD of dependencies, though.
[04:57] <NickGarvey> muraii_: ha I don't either, no worries ):
[04:57] <drexelxxxx> apt is nice for htat
[04:57] <muraii_> Of course, that's not a logistical problem for installation.  I just get a little freaked out when there are 30 other programs to install.
[04:58] <NickGarvey> s/):/:)/
[04:58] <drexelxxxx> not 30 programs usually it is libraries
[04:58] <drexelxxxx> and they are shared
[04:58] <mike930> how would you rate gnucash?
[04:58] <drexelxxxx> most of the time
[04:58] <muraii_> drexelxxxx: Semantics.
[04:58] <drexelxxxx> I haven't used it yet
[04:58] <drexelxxxx> I'm going to though
[04:58] <anandaputra> hi all.. please help me.. how to transfer file from cellphone SonyEricson K700 to my Dapper Drake box via bluetooth?? I use USB bluetooth adapter.
[04:59] <drexelxxxx> would be nice to have something safe to use
[04:59] <muraii_> mike930: I can't honestly say from a user perspective.  I read a variety of reviews, and it seemed to be tops on the list unless you wanted to pay for Moneydance.
[04:59] <muraii_> drexelxxxx: That should've been "Semantics <g>."
[04:59] <drexelxxxx> I don't pay in linux
[04:59] <drexelxxxx> :)
[05:00] <muraii_> mike930: TheKompany makes a KDE-based personal finance program, too; but I can't remember what it's called.
[05:00] <muraii_> I don't thin it's free, either, though.
[05:01] <muraii_> gnucash is free, and is pretty robust, and actually is based on pretty rigid accounting techniques such that it's been written that it has a learning curve.  Supposedly, the newest version is geared toward the simple checkbook user.
[05:01] <muraii_> Geared more than previous versions, anyway.
[05:01] <muraii_> There are a few cogent reviews out there, that seem to make sense.
[05:02] <muraii_> I played with Moneydance (Moneydancer?) on OS X, and it was okay.
[05:02] <mike930> thanks for the info
[05:02] <muraii_> My bank doesn't use Quicken's new proprietary QXF standard (I think that's it), though, so I would want to have something that imported the QIF files I *can* get.
[05:03] <mram> muraii_: gnucash is it really that good?
[05:03] <muraii_> Oddly enough, gnucash doesn't work natively with comma delimited files.
[05:03] <muraii_> mram: It looks nice.  That's as far as I've gone with it.
[05:03] <mike930> I'm just trying to find some programs, I haven't used linux in like 6 years so I'm kind of relearing.
[05:03] <mram> muraii_: :-) looking nice never hurt no one.
[05:04] <muraii_> mike930: I installed Debian once upon a time, and tried to get a coupla BSD flavors up and running; but I haven't until recently had the convergence of time and frustration with other systems to really give it a go.
[05:04] <muraii_> mram: True.
[05:04] <CarlFK> how do I tell what driver is used for /dev/wlan0 ?
[05:04] <muraii_> mram: Kind of.
[05:04] <mram> muraii_: getting it right now to check it out
[05:04] <muraii_> CarlFK: Does ifconfig tell you that?
[05:04] <carbo> hi, i've got a question about email / PIM... should I use evolution since it seems to be integrated into ubuntu? I prefer thunderbird on its own but I need a calendar and shared address book
[05:05] <CarlFK> muraii_: nope
[05:05] <muraii_> mram: Did you see the dependencies?
[05:05] <muraii_> CarlFK: Does "lsmod | grep wlan0" show you the driver?
[05:05] <fwp> !java
[05:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:05] <muraii_> I thought it might.
[05:05] <muraii_> ...but maybe not.
[05:06] <CarlFK> muraii_: nothing
[05:06] <mram> muraii_ synaptic got all i needed
[05:06] <muraii_> CarlFK: Crap.
[05:06] <muraii_> mram: Yeah, it's painless.  I guess I'm still so used to Windows that when I see 20-30 other utilities and libraries going in my system, I'm something less than at ease.
[05:07] <cens0red> Hi. I seem to be having difficulty with my apt-get repositories. " Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages"
[05:07] <muraii_> CarlFK: Well, sorry I couldn't help more.  I have no clue.
[05:07] <CarlFK> tx for trying
[05:07] <mram> muraii_: haha, i am trying to move away from windows!
[05:07] <muraii_> cens0red: apt-get update?
[05:07] <muraii_> mram: Me too.
[05:07] <x1n933k> Can anyone point out how I can load ubuntu right into shell instead of loading X, i don't want to play with around /etc until I know more details
[05:07] <cens0red> muraii_ yeah. is archive.ubuntu.com down? Haven't been able to connect to it for days.
[05:07] <buckwild> ok, I'm trying to compile something and it's saying that glib1.2 isn't installed but it is
[05:07] <SmokeW33d> hello
[05:07] <buckwild> it's calling it "GLIB" tho, that's why it's saying it isn't installed
[05:08] <buckwild> is there a flag I use to get it to work?
[05:08] <NickGarvey> x1n933k: what I do is chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[05:08] <SmokeW33d> hello
[05:08] <mram> muraii_: although xp pro is good, it's just microsoft makes it so hard to customize you system to make it your own, and with vista they are being more and more anal
[05:08] <SmokeW33d> i was wondering how to install xubuntu
[05:08] <muraii_> cens0red: I had that problem a few days ago; but when I did the update things worked fine for me.
[05:08] <NickGarvey> x1n933k: makes it so gdm isn't executable anymore, and when booting it will just be skipped over
[05:08] <SmokeW33d> i got the base installtion done im in text mode (no gui)
[05:08] <jobezone> x1n933k: you can just remove gdm.
[05:08] <cens0red> : Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:08] <NickGarvey> x1n933k: to put it back is chmod +x /etc/init.d/gdm
[05:09] <bimberi> !xubuntu
[05:09] <ubotu> well, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[05:09] <carbo> should I use Evolution or is there a better email/calendar app
[05:09] <bimberi> SmokeW33d: ^^^^^
[05:09] <x1n933k> Thank you
[05:09] <mram> muraii_: ttyl
[05:09] <bimberi> SmokeW33d: (if you have access to a browser)
[05:09] <muraii_> mram: Yeah.  XP hogs the system I have it on (my work computer, so I don't own it).  I tried--what is it--NextLite or something, a way to replace iexplorer.exe as Windows shell.  That lets you customize similarly to Linux; but it seemed even MORE cumbersome.
[05:09] <timo> does anyone in here used LDC++ and know how to resolve a problem that makes my client rehash files everytime i start LDC++?
[05:09] <tiasrr> hi there. i've installed one package from suse (using alien) and now i'm unable to remove it. I have tried "dpkg --force-all -r" but it desn't work. i'm getting this: "ERROR: SuSEconfig or requested SuSEconfig module not present!" and this: "underprocess post-removal scirpt has returned error code 1". So how can i force dpkg to remove that package?
[05:10] <muraii_> Alright, folks.  It's been educational.  Good evening.
[05:11] <jobezone> bye
[05:11] <SmokeW33d> if i want to upgarde to dapper
[05:11] <SmokeW33d> i just change everythign from breezy to dapper?
[05:12] <SmokeW33d> in my source list?
[05:12] <ps> in the xscreensaver -> display power management . what is the difference b/w "Standby, suspend and off" ?
[05:12] <jobezone> right now? you could also run 'update-manager -r'
[05:12] <NickGarvey> !tell SmokeW33d about upgrade
[05:13] <SmokeW33d> im in gui mode
[05:13] <SmokeW33d> no gui
[05:14] <drexelxxxx> how do we update Glibc2.1
[05:14] <jobezone> SmokeW33d: so yes, change the names, then 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[05:14] <cens0red> anyone know where I can find a list of up to date repositories? I haven't been able to connect to archive.ubuntu.com for days. :(
[05:14] <intelikey> updating glibc is a major operation      no?
[05:14] <alpjohns> has anyone installed ubuntu on a mac?
[05:14] <jobezone> SmokeW33d: and comment out any non-ubuntu repository you may have added to sources.list.
[05:15] <ps> what is the difference b/w "Standby, suspend and off"  in power management?
[05:15] <intelikey> cens0red the archive.ubuntu.com repos work fine for me...  is your sources.list bad ?
[05:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !repos
[05:16] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:17] <intelikey> standby is running but nothing happening  suspend is low cycle idle   and off is off
[05:18] <ps> intelikey: does that relate only to my monitor? or does my computer shutdown if there is no activity(off) for 60 minutes?
[05:18] <Juhaz> those terms could be talking about monitor, or computer
[05:18] <Juhaz> depends on what dialog you're looking at
[05:19] <intelikey> ps that can go either way according to settings
[05:19] <ps> i'm looking at my Xscreensaver settings -> display power management....
[05:19] <ps> i dont want my computer to shutdown....
[05:20] <mike930> If i download a program with the .deb extension, how do I install it?
[05:21] <ps> mike930: man dpkg
[05:21] <intelikey> ps in that case prolly both.    it's for note books mainly
[05:21] <ps> oh ok...
[05:22] <tiasrr> how can i force package deinstallation? i mean "really" force, dpkg --force-all -r doesn't work for me
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[05:22] <ubotu> it has been said that apt-get is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[05:22] <Amaranth> bah
[05:22] <shizz> _jason i have a question for you are you there?
[05:23] <jobezone> mike930: 'sudo dpkg -i package.deb'
[05:23] <_jason> shizz: yes, but it's best to just address the channel, that way everyone can help
[05:23] <shizz> ok sure thing
[05:23] <jobezone> tiasrr: I don't know of another way than what you tried to forcefully remove a package from the dpkg database :/
[05:24] <tiasrr> that sucks :/
[05:24] <intelikey> tiasrr the list in /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.list   could be fed into an rm command then remove the list file and any postrm script for that package and uninstall it that way...
[05:25] <shizz> i am needing help with compiling an application named gparted v 0.2.4 its a partition program. I was ablt to download it with out any problem but i dont have the gcc complier and other tools that i need to build the source. I need help with finding all the tools that i need to be able to build applications securely. can someone help with some tips?
[05:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ffs
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[05:25] <shizz> _jason whats with this flooding?
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[05:26] <bimberi> !ops
[05:26] <intelikey> you did ask about forcefully removing it....
[05:26] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
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[05:26] <Hobbsee> lovely
[05:26] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: Can you handle this? I was right in the middle of something
[05:27] <Amaranth> I've got +m set, ban them as you see them. :)
[05:27] <Hobbsee> argh!
[05:27] <Hobbsee> nalioth: ping!  help me here!
[05:27] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: um...help please...
[05:28] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: Never dealt with one of these before? :)
[05:28] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: not that quickly  - i dont have a client with decent scritping
[05:28] <Amaranth> neither do i, this is manual
[05:28] <Hobbsee> they've all got different hostnames too...
[05:29] <ajmitch_> problems?
[05:29] <intelikey> not really ajmitch_
[05:29] <Amaranth> the 3 who were doing it are now banned
[05:29] <ajmitch_> ok, good
[05:29] <shizz> can someone at least say that they can see me text
[05:29] <NickGarvey> shizz: :)
[05:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> shizz: oy
[05:29] <shizz> lol hey
[05:29] <ps> hi
[05:30] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: I'm mostly here, ping for help if you need it.
[05:30] <shizz> what up?
[05:30] <NickGarvey> ps: ax
[05:30] <_jason> shizz: gparted is in the repositories
[05:30] <shizz> im having some issues with getting my env set up
[05:30] <matthew_w> wth was that
[05:30] <shizz> ah which one?
[05:30] <fwp> can someone, for the love of god, explain to me why java-package is SO elusive???
[05:30] <_jason> !info gparted
[05:30] <ubotu> gparted: (partition editor for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.8+cvs2005061901-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 1260 kB
[05:30] <_jason> shizz: and for the future, you need 'build-essential' to build stuff
[05:30] <jobezone> what's just happened with the channel?
[05:30] <shizz> im trying to get all the tools so that i can build sources securely
[05:31] <Hobbsee> jobezone: spam bots
[05:31] <_jason> ubotu: tell jobezone about compile
[05:31] <buckwild> I have build-essential
[05:31] <buckwild> and this is still whining about glib
[05:31] <NickGarvey> buckwild: then apt-get glib
[05:31] <shizz> build-essential is that in the repositories? and is that all i need?
[05:31] <buckwild> I see this question popping up on the forums, but nobody has an answer that will work for me
[05:31] <ic56> is the channel wroking again?
[05:31] <ic56> ok
[05:31] <buckwild> glib isn't a package
[05:31] <ic56> tiasrr: since the package you want to uninstall is from SuSE, the reason uninstall is failing is probably because the uninstall script is assuming SuSE-specific stuff in the system and thus failing.  You will have to either find the failing uninstall script and modify it to work in Ubuntu or you will have to manually remove the package w/out the benefit of package management tools.
[05:31] <NickGarvey> buckwild: second..
[05:31] <intelikey> fwp i have no idea.  i don't do java or windows
[05:31] <buckwild> I already have libglib1.2 installed, 2.0, 1.2 dev, 2.0 dev
[05:31] <buckwild> what gives
[05:32] <shizz> what is this build essentials?
[05:32] <mike930> When I use dpkg it give me a list of dependencies it has. Do I have to track down each one or is there another way
[05:32] <Amaranth> buckwild: What's the problem?
[05:32] <intelikey> !b-e
[05:32] <ubotu> hmm... b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[05:32] <shizz> does build essentials have gcc and all the other tools?
[05:33] <Amaranth> yes
[05:33] <buckwild> Amaranth: I'm trying to build a xmms plugin and I get a message about needing glib 1.2 >=, when I have libglib1.2 2.0 and both devs installed
[05:33] <psw> ubotu tell me about using ubuntu as a web server
[05:33] <NickGarvey> buckwild: its there
[05:33] <NickGarvey> buckwild: libglib2.0-0
[05:33] <intelikey> it's a meta package that depends on what you need to build things.
[05:33] <Amaranth> buckwild: weird
[05:33] <psw> ubotu tell me about web server
[05:33] <psw> ubotu tell me about webserver
[05:34] <NickGarvey> !tell psw about apache
[05:34] <Amaranth> intelikey: Actually it's a meta package that includes everything a buildd will have by default (so your package doesn't have to build-depend on it).
[05:34] <NickGarvey> :)
[05:34] <shizz> is gparted a pretty good tool for partioning ?
[05:34] <harisund> psw if you want to message Ubotu, use /msg ubotu <string>
[05:34] <buckwild> nickgarvey: got that installed, along with the dev version
[05:34] <psw> wooo thanks NickGarvey :)
[05:34] <NickGarvey> psw: in the future "/msg ubotu factoid"
[05:34] <Amaranth> intelikey: it just happens to work for this too :)
[05:34] <NickGarvey> buckwild: and whats it complaining about then?
[05:34] <psw> oh ok.... thanks i will... sort of new here
[05:34] <NickGarvey> shizz: used it an hour ago, worked fine
[05:34] <NickGarvey> psw: :)
[05:34] <shizz> thanks
[05:34] <shizz> what about that build essentials
[05:34] <shizz> whats up with that
[05:35] <Amaranth> shizz: Install it and you can compile things.
[05:35] <NickGarvey> shizz: need it to compile things, its got make and stuff
[05:35] <Thinjon100> Can anyone tell me how I might get GRUB to install on hda2 for my Dapper Drake installation? I mounted hda2 as /boot but I cannot currently boot into it... (I get a grub> prompt that does nothing)
[05:35] <shizz> is that all i need?
[05:35] <shizz> to build c apps
[05:35] <NickGarvey> !tell Thinjon100 about grub
[05:35] <harisund> I have a quick question. Why are certain packages forcibly associated with ubuntu-desktop? I want to uninstall postfix, and it says it has to remove Ubuntu-desktop package as well.
[05:35] <buckwild> nickgarvey: I don't know, I think it doesn't see the glibs there for some reason
[05:35] <intelikey> meta package that includes ????       errr meta packages depend  don't they ?
[05:35] <Hobbsee> (seems that most ops arent watching, so i've opped bimberi for a bit - he's a kubuntu op)
[05:35] <Amaranth> Thinjon100: /boot is where your kernel is, you want to tell grub to boot to the / partition
[05:35] <NickGarvey> buckwild: whats it say
[05:35] <intelikey> symantic.
[05:36] <buckwild> oh, my bad
[05:36] <shizz> im going to have to build this NdisWrapper
[05:36] <Hobbsee> er, i think
[05:36] <buckwild> it's complaining about gtk now
[05:36] <buckwild> nm, I'm a moron
[05:36] <buckwild> hahaha
[05:36] <NickGarvey> :)
[05:36] <shizz> its for my wireless router
[05:36] <NickGarvey> shizz: yup, I did the same, use the svn version if you can
[05:36] <Thinjon100> Amaranth: I mounted / to hdg3 /boot to hda2... I want GRUB on hda2 (where I had it installed for Breezy)
[05:36] <shizz> svn version of build essentials?
[05:36] <harisund> Has anybody tried using xdmcp to Ubuntu GDM through Windows Cygwin?
[05:37] <Amaranth> shizz: No, there is no svn version.
[05:37] <intelikey> Hobbsee just don't op the kid needing baned  lol
[05:37] <NickGarvey> Thinjon100: is it already installed there?
[05:37] <shizz> did you get the wireless router working
[05:37] <Amaranth> shizz: It's a meta-package. It doesn't actually have anything it in, it just pulls in other packages.
[05:37] <NickGarvey> Thinjon100: I'll copy and paste information from the link ubotu sent you
[05:37] <eneried> hello, i'm looking for this library, but i cant find it "libltdl.so.3:"
[05:37] <shizz> what is the svn?
[05:37] <Hobbsee> intelikey: LOL!  i fixed that alias - hardcoded in all my nicks.
[05:37] <shizz> ah
[05:37] <NickGarvey> shizz: subversion, most recent version of it
[05:37] <Amaranth> shizz: If you need svn install the subversion package.
[05:37] <shizz> is there a url or something
[05:37] <Amaranth> shizz: If that's what you meant.
[05:37] <NickGarvey> shizz: apt-get instal subversion :)
[05:37] <shizz> ah
[05:37] <NickGarvey> s/instal/install
[05:37] <Thinjon100> NickGarvey: My GRUB from Breezy should still be there... but when Windows redirects from it's bootloader I jsut get teh GRUB prompt
[05:37] <shizz> ok i understand
[05:37] <shizz> thanks
[05:37] <eneried> how can i know wich package have this library? "libltdl.so.3:"
[05:38] <intelikey> ic56 you here ?
[05:38] <FearMoth> I've got a 256MB thumbdrive, can I write a bootable ISO file to it as if it was a CD?
[05:38] <NickGarvey> Thinjon100:   sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda
[05:38] <Thinjon100> I'll look at those links, Nick... thank you :)
[05:38] <NickGarvey> Thinjon100: might work, but it says update grub works well to
[05:38] <NickGarvey> Thinjon100: so don't run that just yet :)
[05:38] <harisund> eneried: try doing "dpkg --list | grep libltdl"
[05:38] <shizz> ok well i just installed the gparted. im going try that out. ill be back in a few. thanks for your help  ;)
[05:38] <harisund> eneried: I have a package installed on my machine by that name
[05:39] <Thinjon100> Do you think I need to try refreshing my linux.bin file first?
[05:39] <eneried> harisund, thanks :)
[05:39] <NickGarvey> I'm taking off, I have some gentoo compiling to do :), and I am not sure but the first link of the set looked very well written
[05:39] <harisund> eneried: np :-)
[05:40] <harisund> Why do all sort of wierd packages get installed? bicycle-repair .. lol ..
[05:41] <eimajenthat> hello?
[05:42] <harisund> eimajenthat: Hello there !
[05:42] <intelikey> ic56  i have an issue with the single quote key.   don't know why.   there is no .inputrc   and  key map US-latin1  loading propperly   but the ' key does a print it without advancing the cursor thing,        those are all two key presses  'i  'a  'o   should have shown   ?       was just wondering if there was an easy fix for that?
[05:42] <eneried> harisund, how can i get an update of that file? "libltdl.so.1" this is the one i have but i need number 3 "libltdl.so.3" :(
[05:42] <harisund> eneried: I am really not sure. If it is not uptodate in the repositories, you might need to manually download it, and probably compile from source or something like that.
[05:42] <eimajenthat> irc always puts me a little off guard.  Never been to Ubuntu's IRC server, didn't know existed till just now
[05:43] <eimajenthat> does it have channels fo different Ubuntu-related topics?
[05:43] <eneried> harisund, thanks, then i continue searching :)
[05:43] <eimajenthat> or is it all in here?
[05:44] <harisund> eneried: Hang on, my machine has libltdl.so.3.1.0
[05:44] <harisund> eneried: Are you sure you are running the most up to date system?
[05:44] <bimberi> eimajenthat: it's mostly in here, but there are a lot of other channels - '/msg chanserv list #*ubuntu*'
[05:44] <eimajenthat> thanks
[05:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> eimajenthat: There's a lot more than just ubuntu-related stuff on this server, but yeah, there are lots of 'specialized' channels.  #ubuntu, #ubuntu+1, #kubuntu, plus a ton of localized channels.
[05:45] <eneried> i have dapper and some breezy packages :( so i think that lib you say is inside a pakcage, but i don't know how tyo look for
[05:45] <eimajenthat> does Ubuntu have a version for Athlon64?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> eimajenthat,  yes.
[05:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> eimajenthat: yes, there's an AMD64 version
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> eimajenthat,  but i use the 32bit version for various reasons
[05:45] <harisund> eneried: what did dpkg --list | grep libltdl3 return?
[05:45] <harisund> Did it return you a name of a package? eneried, onc eyou have the name of the package, you can list all the files that belong to the package.
[05:45] <{alejandro}> I am running 64 bit
[05:46] <blind> anywhere i can get some documentation on "convert" ?
[05:46] <eimajenthat> Cool, I'm running plain old X86 here, but I've got an A64.  Seems a shame to waste it.
[05:46] <{alejandro}> it works nicely as long as you don't want Flash
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> man convert
[05:46] <{alejandro}> or to be able to use WINE
[05:46] <blind> doesn't give me anything, Dr_Willis.
[05:46] <eneried> harisund :( nothing
[05:46] <eimajenthat> Would I have to reinstall to get 64-bitness?
[05:46] <harisund> eneried: In my machine, it said the package name is libltdl3. I then did "dpkg --listfiles libltdl3"
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> {alejandro},  i had issues with wine, and cedega, and several emulators as well.
[05:46] <blind> I mean, there is a file, but it's nearly empty. copywrite info, etc
[05:46] <eimajenthat> Or is there a way to upgrade?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> eimajenthat,  reinstall as far as i know.
[05:46] <{alejandro}> eiajenthat yeah you would
[05:46] <harisund> eneried: probably you could do "sudo apt-cache search libltdl3"
[05:47] <eimajenthat> bummer, I just got everything how I like it
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> :p
[05:47] <{alejandro}> Dr_Willis WINE... is not an emulator
[05:47] <blind> Dr_Willis, it does images.
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> {alejandro},  yea.. sure... whatever.. :P
[05:47] <blind> Wine is an emulator
[05:47] <{alejandro}> Dr_Willis you need a 32 bit machine
[05:47] <{alejandro}> it is an alternative win32 api
[05:47] <intelikey> wine is wine is not an emulator
[05:47] <{alejandro}> yeah
[05:47] <eneried> harisund, it returned me two lines, with info
[05:47] <Alth> Quick question. RAR file support in ubuntu?
[05:47] <{alejandro}> it is a way to run windows binaries, so you need to use the same architecture
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[05:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:48] <harisund> eneried: Don't paste here, paste on some pasteboard or something. And send me the URL ..
[05:48] <Alth> Ta.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> {alejandro},  actually the cedega people i think are working on a 64bit version.
[05:48] <intelikey> !flood
[05:48] <ubotu> hmm... flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[05:48] <{alejandro}> that is fancy
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Ive yet to see any real plus at this time for using a 64bit disrto.
[05:48] <{alejandro}> speed
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> for my 'general' needs. :P that is.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> i never noticed much of a speed diff.
[05:49] <Sinta[x] > hello
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> if any.
[05:49] <{alejandro}> and ponciness
[05:49] <harisund> Dr_Willis: I agree with you there.. there will come a time I am sure, just that it is not now :)
[05:49] <eneried> harisund, i think i can do sudo apt-get install those packages? one is the package and second is the -dev :)
[05:49] <intelikey> encription
[05:49] <{alejandro}> I am gonna stick with my 64 bit install
[05:49] <harisund> eneried: that would be great. Yes, you can install them using apt-get
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  so i can play dvd's faster? :P
[05:49] <eneried> harisund!  thanks a lot, it works :)
[05:49] <{alejandro}> and then use Xen when Edgy comes along
[05:49] <eimajenthat> hey, isn't there a command to make APT-GET spit out a list of installed packages?
[05:50] <harisund> eneried: Yay ! Good for you ..
[05:50] <bimberi> eimajenthat: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[05:50] <harisund> eimajenthat: You can use dpkg for that.
[05:50] <harisund> @bimberi beat me ;)
[05:50] <eneried> :)
[05:50] <bimberi> harisund: :)
[05:50] <eimajenthat> ah, most thankful
[05:50] <eimajenthat> good channel
[05:50] <intelikey> Dr_Willis lol    probably   but you can only see them up to about 20X speed  and make any sense of them
[05:50] <blind> Sooo is anyone familiar with convert?
[05:51] <fwp> seriously
[05:51] <Sinta[x] > does anyone here use a windows mobile-based smartphone?
[05:51] <fwp> it's so difficult to install java on ubuntu
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  i like to watch them at 2x with the capations on... to annoy others.. :P
[05:51] <harisund> fwp: Why is that? Are you following the wiki instructions?
[05:51] <harisund> fwp: I had absolutely no hassles in installing Java on Breezy.
[05:51] <fwp> harisund: yep...
[05:51] <intelikey> Dr_Willis what i was refering to is that a 64bit system can do higher quality encription   :)
[05:51] <fwp> couldn't find that java-package
[05:52] <fwp> so I ended up adding a debian repository
[05:52] <fwp> sarge
[05:52] <harisund> fwp: Your repositories are enabled?
[05:52] <Sinta[x] > I'm using a T-mobile SDA (i-mate sp5m) and it runs windows mobile 2005 and i was wondering how i could browse it in linux.. in windows i use MS Activesync
[05:52] <fwp> yep
[05:52] <Dr_Willis>  http://www.imagemagick.oro shoul dhave docs on convert. :P just typing 'convert' says a lot of info
[05:52] <{alejandro}> fwp you can install blackdown
[05:52] <harisund> fwp: You wouldn't have to do that, and I am not even sure if it is advisable to add Debian's repositories (some binary compatibility problems0
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  my porn dvds will look better?
[05:52] <{alejandro}> fwp or there is javapkg which is nice
[05:52] <bluefoxicy> wtf do i need to install to get libglade-config
[05:52] <fwp> true
[05:52] <fwp> basically I just want to install frickin tomcat.
[05:53] <{alejandro}> fwp just use blackdown
[05:53] <harisund> oh tomcat.. I am sorry I don't know the procedure for that :(
[05:53] <intelikey> you rascal..       i'll be back in a few.
[05:53] <Flannel> tomcat?
[05:53] <{alejandro}> it is a server thing
[05:53] <Flannel> ack, bloody enter key next to other keys.  anyway.
[05:53] <Flannel> I could swear tomcat was in repos
[05:53] <{alejandro}> it is
[05:53] <eimajenthat> what's it do?
[05:53] <Flannel> its a java server
[05:54] <eimajenthat> hmm
[05:54] <Flannel> tomcat is to jsp as ... php is to .php pages ;)
[05:54] <harisund> Whose the guy(s) who's in charge of deciding what goes into the ubuntu-desktop meta package?
[05:54] <eimajenthat> oh!!
[05:54] <Dr_Willis>  http://www.imagemagick.org  lol.
[05:54] <Flannel> harisund: MOTU?
[05:54] <eimajenthat> cool
[05:54] <mike930> When I use aptitude how do I get it to install all dependencies?
[05:54] <{alejandro}> no, MOTU is for universe
[05:54] <Flannel> erm, right.  I just realised how silly that was.
[05:54] <{alejandro}> dunno
[05:54] <{alejandro}> check the wiki
[05:54] <harisund> I see. Not that there is anything I can do about it, but there's a lot of stuff in ubuntu-desktop that average users don't need.
[05:54] <Sinta[x] > how do i see which version of ubuntu im running
[05:55] <harisund> bicycle-repair? Malayalam fonts? bluez-utils?
[05:55] <bimberi> !version
[05:55] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue' in a terminal.
[05:55] <gerzel> Q: Can anyone recomend a good site for teaching the basics of IRC to someone new?
[05:55] <shizz> ok well installed the gparted and it looks like it installed correctly but it isnt working. I can select different partitions to resize but when i do, the partition options in the menu bar are all deactivated. does anyone know why this is?
[05:55] <Sinta[x] > THANKS
[05:55] <Sinta[x] > ;)
[05:55] <Flannel> harisund: Matt Zimmerman is maintainer on ubuntu-desktop
[05:55] <bimberi> gerzel: http://www.irchelp.org
[05:55] <Sinta[x] > isnt there something newer than 5.10
[05:55] <harisund> Flannel: oh ok. Never mind anyway ..
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> i can see keeping bluez :P
[05:56] <bimberi> Sinta[x] : yes, there is 6.06 for which a beta is available
[05:56] <harisund> Dr_Willis: I am sure there are a lot of people using bluez-utils, but I am sure there are  a lot more who don't.
[05:56] <Sinta[x] > can i see a changelog or the differences ?
[05:56] <harisund> And it's an unnecessary startup program. The first thing I do is "update-rc.d -f bluez-utils remove"
[05:56] <jobezone> shizz: those partitions need to be unmounted first. If it's a partition you can't unmount, like the root partition, you could use a LiveCD
[05:56] <shizz> whats that
[05:57] <njkt> quick question: does ubuntu have something similar to debian's netinstall? or something barebones?
[05:57] <Flannel> shizz: mounted means they're effectively "in use"
[05:57] <N2DIY> gerzel, you made it this far, hang on, and fasten your seat belt. I don't know diddly either.
[05:57] <eimajenthat> yeah
[05:57] <{alejandro}> njkt you can do a server install
[05:57] <harisund> Does either of Breezy or Dapper LiveCD have the ability to boot into command line mode only?
[05:57] <eimajenthat> there's a server install
[05:57] <shizz> see heres the thing i have free space on in two partitions that i want to free up
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> harisund,  edit the grub boot line and append 'single' i think
[05:57] <njkt> ok thanks, i'm spoiled on debians netinstall heh
[05:57] <{alejandro}> harisund I believe you can switch into command line with ctl alt f2
[05:57] <{alejandro}> harisund if you are using gdm (gnome)
[05:57] <shizz> but they are partitions that have valuable data
[05:57] <Flannel> ctrl-alt-f# where # is 1-6 for terminal, and 7 to get back to X
[05:58] <eimajenthat> njkt, I've got a Debian netinstall on my server
[05:58] <harisund> alejandro: that's true, but that defeats the purpose. I am talking about some quick repair that I need to do, and I use the LiveCD and want to quikly log into command line only.
[05:58] <shizz> should i just unmount them create a partiotion and then remount them
[05:58] <Flannel> njkt: there is no sanctioned netinstall, but there are unofficial methods to doing it, google "netinstall ubuntu"
[05:58] <shizz> im used to partiotion magic in windows lol
[05:58] <njkt> i have netinstall for debian but didn't know if ubuntu had one as well
[05:58] <njkt> Flannel, thanks
[05:58] <shizz> ok ill check it out. thanks
[05:58] <harisund> Are there any electrical engineers in here? I am looking for a nice Spice program on linux. :)
[05:59] <pkh> can I access from the commanline the 'Places' created through the 'Connect to network server...' command?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> harisund,  like 'spice' ?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> !info spice
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> I thoughti saw spice once on here..
[05:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ^_^
[05:59] <{alejandro}> harisund livecd goes straight into gnome
[05:59] <{alejandro}> harisund I think there is a recovery mode though
[05:59] <harisund> alejandro: yeah, I want to avoid that. Is that possible?
[05:59] <drexelxxxx> Anybody know what the linux command syntax is for renewing and IP address?
[05:59] <njkt> what about a bare bones system with just base packages and etc?
[06:00] <Flannel> harisund: apt-cache search spice returns three of them.  there are other circuit analysis thigns out there though, I've neverused any of them myself though.
[06:00] <gerzel> Ok, newbie question here I've seen things like "look at !rules" or other !word things, how do I use/lookat those things?
[06:00] <drexelxxxx> ifconfig something
[06:00] <intelikey> man ifconfig
[06:00] <Flannel> njkt: server would be that.
[06:00] <harisund> gerzel: They are called factoids. You can ask the IRC bot here (ubotu)
[06:00] <drexelxxxx> I tried and I can't place what it could be
[06:00] <njkt> k thanks.
[06:01] <{alejandro}> harisund I can't remember the boot options for the livecd off the top of my head
[06:01] <harisund> gerzel: You can send ubotu a private message using the command "/msg ubotu <factoid>" and it will tell you what it knows on the topic.
[06:01] <{alejandro}> harisund there might be a command line one
[06:01] <harisund> alejandro: Never mind thanks a lot though .. I am guessing there must ..
[06:01] <Sinta[x] > If I want to install Dapper-Drake on my hard-disk or Breezy-Badger... (to dual boot xp with) should I install XP first or linux
 what about a bare bones system with just base packages <---- install-server    is as close as you'll get without manually doing it.
[06:01] <bimberi> gerzel: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:01] <gerzel> say thanks
[06:01] <eimajenthat> has anybody here used thoggen?
[06:01] <gerzel> oops sorry
[06:02] <{alejandro}> harisund
[06:02] <{alejandro}> use failsafe
[06:02] <jobezone> eimajenthat: I have
[06:02] <harisund> Sinta[x]  Preferrably Windows first.
[06:02] <harisund> alejandro: Oh thanks.. didn't realize that was command line mode.. :) sounded suspicious ..
[06:02] <Sinta[x] > will ubuntu mess with my MBR/boot menu or whatnot
[06:02] <{alejandro}> harisund you can also do that from an install of ubuntu
[06:03] <{alejandro}> harisund from grub when you pick the failsafe version of a kernel, it is console mode
[06:03] <jobezone> eimajenthat: I can't private message... but it worked ok, only took many, many hours to rip a full dvd movie
[06:03] <intelikey> !tell Sinta[x]  about dualboot
[06:03] <harisund> Yes, that I have done :) I was wondering what to do on a machine that didn't have Ubuntu installed already.
[06:03] <jobezone> eimajenthat: like, 8 hours or something.. I left it on during the night.
[06:03] <eimajenthat> jobezone: what did it rip to (what format)?
[06:04] <eimajenthat> jobezone, I'm crappy at IRC
[06:04] <jobezone> eimajenthat: to a .ogg file with video encoded with theora, and audio encoded with vorbis.
[06:04] <jobezone> eimajenthat: no, I really can't send messages like the one you did, because I'm not registered in freenode.
[06:05] <eimajenthat> jobezone, interesting
[06:05] <eimajenthat> what kind of message are you sending?  where it shows red instead?
[06:05] <{alejandro}> eimajenthat it is the kind where you go /msg whatever
[06:05] <jobezone> eimajenthat: hmm... I'm sending them to the main channel. It probably shows red, because it has your nick in the message.
[06:06] <N2DIY> Ubuntu didn't prompt me to make a rescue floppy, did I miss something?
[06:06] <PORDO> did gmplayer get taken out of apt-get sources?
[06:06] <intelikey> lol shows red   :)      eimajenthat  your client may be changing the colour because your nick is in the context
[06:07] <jobezone> N2DIY: you can use the installer as a rescue CD, by typing 'rescue root=/dev/***' where *** is your root partition
[06:07] <jack|ass> so i have some stuff stuck over a session.  On startup, a couple terminals and gaim start up and i can't figure out how to get it to go away.
[06:07] <N2DIY> Jobezone, roger that. Thanks.
[06:08] <ron_> Has any one had any luck getting a Sony Media Slot to work with Ubuntu?
[06:08] <drexelxxxx> cool that is nice
[06:08] <{alejandro}> ron_ do oyu mean media stick?
[06:08] <jobezone> N2DIY: you're welcome. roger and out :)
[06:08] <intelikey> jack logout
[06:08] <jack|ass> wait found it
[06:08] <PORDO> why can't i find gmplayer in apt-cache search?
[06:08] <ron_> I Mean Media Stich Slot on laptop
[06:08] <bimberi> jack|ass: see if they're listed under System -> Preferences -> Sessions, Startup Programs
[06:08] <jack|ass> intelikey:  it goes over a reset.
[06:09] <N2DIY> jobezone, 73s :)
[06:09] <{alejandro}> ron_ is it not mounting?
[06:09] <ron_> Correct, it isn't mount.
[06:09] <{alejandro}> ron_ I have a usb card reader with a memory stick slot that works fine
[06:09] <{alejandro}> hm
[06:09] <{alejandro}> ron_ what desktop are you using
[06:09] <intelikey> no just logout and log back in... not reset.    it should give the option to save session     save session is how they got there.
[06:10] <ron_> I just loaded Ubuntu, but I think it is GNOME.
[06:10] <pablo_> I just instaled ubuntu. It recognices my ntfs partition, but doesn't let me read/write it and says I'm not the propietary, so I can't change the permissions. I am the only user! How can I fix this?
[06:10] <ron_> I beleive this media stick slot is a PCI slot.
[06:10] <intelikey> but at anyrate an rm -R ~/.gnome*  will fix it.
[06:10] <GMullen> I know this is the worng place to ask this so let me start with an apology, but I've googled with no help and I have no other idea of where to get help... hopefuly someone can point me in the right direction.  What do I do if someone is using my e-mail account (master@tafma.com) so send spam?)
[06:10] <{alejandro}> ron_ Ah. What model laptop do you have?
[06:10] <ron_> Sony PCG-K33
[06:11] <hyphenated> GMullen: #ubuntu-offtopic and wish for a time machine to go back and come up with something better than SMTP
[06:11] <GMullen> thx hyphenated
[06:11] <intelikey> GMullen repost it to your provider.
[06:12] <GMullen> thc intelikey
[06:12] <drexelxxxx> tell
[06:12] <drexelxxxx> !tell
[06:12] <GMullen> thx intelikey
[06:12] <{alejandro}> ron can you go on pastebin.com, paste in the result of ls /dev | grep sd and give me the url?
[06:12] <intelikey> np
[06:12] <drexelxxxx> how do we direct a message to somebody?
[06:12] <ron_> yes...
[06:13] <bimberi> drexelxxxx: /msg nick message
[06:13] <drexelxxxx> thx
[06:13] <Alth> Or /notice nick message.
[06:13] <shizzz> i have demounted a couple partitions in gparted but i still cant get the resize menu bar options to activate so i can make additional space. cant i just select the partition and just readjust the partition size.
[06:13] <shizzz> any help?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis>  demounted? :0
[06:13] <shizzz> un mounted
[06:13] <shizzz> lol
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> what kind of parttions?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> what file system
[06:14] <shizzz> ntfs
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> it should be able to resize them
[06:14] <shizzz> i know
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> I tend to use a live cd - that has gparted or qtparted
[06:14] <intelikey> demounting thing is dis
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> that way nothing is using the hd's
[06:14] <shizzz> i have 2 ntfs, 1 ext3, linux swap
[06:14] <drexelxxxx> what is the difference in qtparted and gparted/
[06:14] <drexelxxxx> ?
[06:14] <drexelxxxx> gparted gnomish?
[06:14] <pepo> my broadcom wireless say: iwlist scan = eth1 doesn't support scanning : No such device
[06:14] <pepo> how i can fix it?
[06:14] <shizzz> where and how i use live cd
[06:15] <bimberi> drexelxxxx: yes, qt.. for kde
[06:15] <intelikey> !wifi
[06:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:15] <cafuego> maybe it's eth2 or eth1?
[06:15] <drexelxxxx> boot up the cd installation
[06:15] <shizzz> where can how can i use live cd
[06:15] <drexelxxxx> thx
[06:15] <dj-fu> pepo, what interfaces do you have in `ifconfig` ?
[06:15] <pepo> cafuego, i am sure its eth1
[06:15] <{alejandro}> hm
[06:15] <dj-fu> broadcom sometimes cmes as wlan0.
[06:15] <cafuego> pepo: driver loaded correctly?
[06:15] <dj-fu> s/cmes/comes/
[06:15] <N2DIY> shizzz, put it in the cd, and boot it.
[06:15] <drexelxxxx> eth0 if you have 1 nic in your machine
[06:15] <drexelxxxx> NIC
[06:16] <pepo> dj-fu, just eth0
[06:16] <{alejandro}> ron_ according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsSony?highlight=%28Sony%29%7C%28Memory%29%7C%28Stick%29 the memory stick reader that sony puts in their laptops is without a linux driver
[06:16] <ron_> http://pastebin.com/686321
[06:16] <shizzz> and use the partition program with the install
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> I had a sony vaio gr390 that i could read the sony memory stick in..
[06:16] <shizzz> ohh that what you meant by the live cd
[06:16] <shizzz> lol
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> but i think it was on the usb buss.
[06:16] <{alejandro}> ron yeah nothing shows up
[06:16] <dj-fu> pepo, then you don't have the driver running
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> The one in my latest laptop - dont work. :(
[06:16] <shizzz> ok ill try
[06:16] <intelikey> yes  unix standards    0 is first.    1 is second.  2 is third....
[06:16] <drexelxxxx> How do we update Glibc?
[06:16] <shizzz> thanks
[06:17] <N2DIY> shizzz, there is no partition program on the live cd, it boots into ram.
[06:17] <drexelxxxx> is that automated or is it manual?
[06:17] <{alejandro}> ron_ ideally something like sda would show up, meaning you had a disk sitting there but unmounted
[06:17] <pepo> cafuego, when i do iwconfig = eth1 iEEEE 802.11b/g
[06:17] <{alejandro}> ron_ I think there are no drivers for it
[06:17] <cafuego> pepo: Did you install the firmware correctly?
[06:17] <ron_> Thanks.  THat is what I thought.  Just wanted to make sure.
[06:18] <pepo> i did not nothing, just default
[06:18] <cafuego> pepo: There's your problem then; the broadcom needs firmware.
[06:18] <cafuego> !bcm43xx
[06:18] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[06:18] <pepo> ok let me see
[06:18] <rdgzt> Anyone got clues/pointers about installing Dapper completely on RAID1?
[06:19] <rdgzt> I tried to do the obvious thing, but it wouldn't boot.
[06:19] <N2DIY> anybody playing with Xastir on Ubuntu?
[06:20] <intelikey> i need to automate my xstartup.     i'm having to  do  root X   and user <wm> -display :0      wonder if i can script that on a nosuid machine
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> having to do this why intelikey ?
[06:21] <mike930> why does aptitude fing gnucash when I run sudo apitude search gnucash but when I try searching for gnucash in aptitude's gui it wont find it?
[06:22] <hyphenated> intelikey: "nosuid machine" ?
[06:22] <intelikey> hyphenated yeah
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  i think you need to do some clarification.
[06:23] <intelikey> it's futile
[06:23] <Flannel> mike930: you're probably searching in a wrong folder thing (new packages instead of not installed)
[06:23] <ic56> hey intelikey.  What's teh X thing you need done?
[06:24] <intelikey> ic56 looking into having init run X   so that users can connect to it the xserver
[06:25] <intelikey> s/it/it,/
[06:25] <mike930> Flannel which one should I search
[06:25] <ic56> intelikey: do you need xdm svcs or just X?
[06:26] <Flannel> mike930: search not installed
[06:26] <Flannel> mike930: unless youve installed it already ;)
[06:26] <intelikey> ic56 just X   i'm not gona type my password in.    it's like 65 chars long.
[06:27] <intelikey> yes
[06:27] <rdgzt> Anybody got clues and ideas about installing Dapper entirely to software RAID1?
[06:27] <rdgzt> The instructions on the wiki are somewhat outdated, and doing the obvious thing on install leads to a non-booting system.
[06:28] <ic56> intelikey/Agent_bob: well, since you're starting X from init, I see no need for suid.  What was the problem?
[06:28] <ic56> gotta go. back in 15 or so.
[06:29] <Agent_bob> no problem really.   but havent gotten all the kinks out of starting X from init.  it seems to want to switich to the gui display an not let you out unless you kill it....
[06:32] <drexelxxxx> Anybody know of a good site for Themes?
[06:33] <Jebuz> hey guys  I have an odd Question ,. I installed Kubunu-desktop from apt now, when i boot gnome sda points to my usb harddisk, when i use Konquerer i can only browse to where the folder is mounted.. unmounting and remounting does not help ... any ideas.. (just kinda annoying)
[06:34] <Jebuz> drexelxxxx: gnome?
[06:34] <drexelxxxx> yeah
[06:34] <Jebuz> one sex=c
[06:34] <shizzz> OMG i just figured out why i cant resize my NTSF partitions with gparted. It doenst supprt any fuctions regarding NTFS.  AHHHHHHHH, does anyone know of a stable partition utility that i can download to resize my NTFS partitions from with inside Ubuntu
[06:34] <Jebuz> sec..
[06:35] <Jebuz> shizzz: good luck..; I have a removable drive.. ntfs was messy to get working with rw permissions
[06:35] <shizzz> didnt want to hear that
[06:35] <shizzz> lol
[06:35] <drexelxxxx> did you try qtparted?
[06:35] <shizzz> but thanks ;)
[06:35] <Agent_bob> ok i got init streight.   now all users can access X     cool that was easy.
[06:35] <drexelxxxx> I haven't had problems with it
[06:36] <shizzz> no i havent, is thatin the repositories
[06:36] <drexelxxxx> haven't tried it on ubuntu though
[06:36] <Jebuz> yeah .. ended up deleting my partition
[06:36] <shizzz> does it work with NTFS
[06:36] <shizzz> ewww
[06:36] <shizzz> that sucks
[06:36] <shizzz> do you mind me asking how
[06:36] <Jebuz> drexelxxxx: try http://www.gnome-look.org/
[06:36] <Jebuz> thats where i got all of minee
[06:36] <shizzz> like did you do somethingor did the program crash
[06:37] <shizzz> ill try that url thanks
[06:37] <Jebuz> no I smokes a joint before attempting .. mostly stupidity .. resized my win partition to have no availale space forgot about the  windows swap file ..
[06:37] <Jebuz> ohh well better off without XP
[06:38] <shizzz> no luck with qtparted on GNOME-Look.org
[06:38] <shizzz> ill try some other searches
[06:38] <shizzz> brb
[06:38] <Hexidigital> hi everyone... does anyone know how to change the hostname of a machine? i accidentally put my FQDN
[06:38] <Jebuz> shizzz sorry gnome look was for them,es for  gnome was just asked for it
[06:39] <mark_skinner> check   /etc/hostname
[06:39] <mark_skinner> cat /etc/hostname
[06:39] <mark_skinner> mark@ubuntu:/etc$ cat hostname
[06:39] <mark_skinner> ubuntu
[06:40] <mark_skinner> Has anyone installed the ATI drivers? on a fresh 5.10?
[06:40] <Hexidigital> mark_skinner... good thing they used an obvious naming convention for stuff like that :) so people like me could find them.... thanks mark
[06:41] <mark_skinner> no problem.. it was something i had done on another server.
[06:41] <Agent_bob> hmmmm i wonder if there is a command that one could issue that would show a list of installed window managers ?
[06:41] <mark_skinner> so anyone doing ATI driver install?
[06:42] <Agent_bob> !ati
[06:42] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:42] <shizzz> Jebuz, the qtparted site claims to work with the NTFS but you need mkntfs and ntfsresize for it to work. have you ever heard of these?
[06:43] <mark_skinner> ty ubotu.. i have that open in another window.. my problem is that the ATI installer application has an error when I try to have it create an Ubuntu/5.10 or Ubuntu/hoary install file
[06:43] <dj-fu> ntfsprogs - tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux
[06:43] <Agent_bob> tty1 [root#~]  urpmq mkntfs
[06:43] <dj-fu> mark_skinner, try Seveas' repositories, I know he packages the new ati drivers for breezy
[06:43] <Agent_bob> ntfsprogs - tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux
[06:43] <mark_skinner> mark@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ cat /usr/share/fglrx/fglrx-install.log
[06:43] <mark_skinner> Error: unsupported architecture:
[06:43] <mark_skinner> [Error]  Generate Package - error generating package : Ubuntu/5.10
[06:43] <drexelxxxx> have they perfected it though?
[06:44] <Agent_bob> tty1 [root#~]  urpmq ntfsresize
[06:44] <Agent_bob> ntfsprogs - tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux
[06:44] <mark_skinner> this is on a "Brand-new" cd i got at the San Diego Linux Desktop Summit on Monday
[06:44] <shizzz> thanks Agent Bob
[06:44] <shizzz> ;)
[06:44] <Agent_bob> both of those are in the repos ^
[06:44] <Agent_bob> dapper repos that is.
[06:44] <shizzz> is that .com, .net or org?
[06:44] <shizzz> ah
[06:44] <shizzz> thanks
[06:45] <shizzz> ill check them out
[06:45] <Agent_bob> !info ntfsprogs
[06:45] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: (tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.9.4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 171 kB, Installed size: 448 kB
[06:45] <Agent_bob> breezy repos also ^
[06:46] <your|sleepy> mo
[06:46] <your|sleepy> moin
[06:46] <your|sleepy> :>
[06:49] <Agent_bob> so anyone know of a cli way to see what all gui heads are installed ?
[06:50] <s|k> !mplayer
[06:50] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:51] <your|sleepy> hello at all
[06:51] <your|sleepy> :>
[06:51] <Daskies> What's the command to end a ping again?
[06:51] <Agent_bob> yes your|sleepy
[06:52] <Daskies> ctrl + something
[06:52] <your|sleepy> c
[06:52] <Agent_bob> ^C
[06:52] <Daskies> Ah
[06:52] <your|sleepy> windows style strg +c xD
[06:52] <Agent_bob> ^C kills lots of things.     q  exits lots of things.
[06:53] <your|sleepy> yes
[06:53] <Agent_bob> so anyone know of a cli way to see what all gui heads are installed ?   or a dir one could list ?
[06:53] <pepo> ok i have a call 01 and call 02 on my iwlist scan
[06:54] <pepo> but i am trying to do dhclient eth1
[06:54] <pepo> DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
[06:55] <pepo> DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
[06:55] <Agent_bob> if it's wireless,  mmmm are you sure it's eth ?
[06:55] <pepo> and my dhcpd its working cos i have other PC here
[06:55] <mark_skinner> exit
[06:55] <pepo> Agent_bob, ifconfig says me
[06:56] <shizzz> i have a question? Some times like just a few minutes ago ill download and install an app from the repository but i cant find it in any of my menus. Its like i have to search for it. does anyone know why this happens?
[06:56] <shizzz> i just downloaded that NTFSprog
[06:56] <shizzz> but i cant find it anywhere
[06:57] <Agent_bob> shizzz maybe because the packager didn't put and entry for menu in the postinst script ?
[06:57] <Agent_bob> oh that.
[06:57] <ic56> shizzz: command line programs don't show up in GUI menus.
[06:57] <Agent_bob>  hehhe cli commands are not in the menus
[06:57] <shizzz> so where is the default location that i hsould look
[06:57] <shizzz> oh
[06:57] <Agent_bob> in your path.
[06:58] <shizzz> lol so what do i do
[06:58] <ryan__> i am trying to upgrade my kernel
[06:58] <shizzz> what is cli?
[06:58] <ic56> !cli
[06:58] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[06:58] <Agent_bob> you use parted like you wanted to before
[06:58] <shizzz> oh
[06:58] <shizzz> lol
[06:58] <ryan__> i am using a amd64 kernel, where can i find the src for that ?
[06:58] <shizzz> so where are the clis installed?
[06:59] <ryan__> I found this, http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/, but that is i386
[06:59] <ryan__> right ?
[06:59] <Agent_bob> so anyone know of a cli way to see what all gui heads are installed ?   or a dir one could list ?
[06:59] <ic56> shizzz: mostly in /usr/bin but there are many places.  If you want to know where a command is located, type which <command>
[06:59] <Agent_bob> shizzz *bin   but where is not relevent.  they will be in your path.   you just type the command.
[07:00] <shizzz> well i downloaded this like toolkit called ntfsprog
[07:00] <ebastos> question, i'm running breezy, is it a bad idea to install a package from the dapper repositories (the package doesn't exist in breez)
[07:00] <drexelxxxx> any idea why my Nvidia driver isn't working right?  Is there a reboot required after the package installation?
[07:00] <shizzz> so im not sure what it has in it
[07:00] <Agent_bob> shizzz werent you trying to resize an ntfs part ?     run gparted and resize it.
[07:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ebastos: What package is it?
[07:00] <drexelxxxx> he did
[07:00] <shizzz> it wont work on NTFS
[07:01] <shizzz> i tried
[07:01] <ebastos> compiz... i'm looking to give the whole xgl/compiz bit a shot
[07:01] <ic56> shizzz: dpkg -L ntfsprog will tell you what all was in the package
[07:01] <shizzz> and theni found a matrix that says that it doesnt work with NTFS
[07:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ebastos: Then no, it's not safe in Breezy.
[07:01] <Agent_bob> you tried after you installed ntfstools shizzz ?
[07:01] <ebastos> how so
[07:01] <ebastos> it's that lethal?
[07:01] <Flannel> drexelxxxx: did you enable the driver?
[07:01] <drexelxxxx> I tried nvidia-glx & nvidia-glx-dev
[07:02] <drexelxxxx> how do you enable?
[07:02] <Flannel> !nvidia
[07:02] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:02] <Flannel> check the wiki, step 15
[07:02] <drexelxxxx> k thx
[07:02] <ic56> shizzz: look for manpages (files in /usr/share/man) in the package.  Then read the documentation with "man <manpage>".
[07:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ebastos: It's not lethal, so far as I know, it just won't work without a lot of effort.
[07:03] <ebastos> i can expend effort.
[07:03] <shizzz> k. thanks ic56
[07:03] <Agent_bob> so anyone know of a cli way to see what all gui heads are installed ?   or a dir one could list ?    this is for a menu.
[07:03] <ebastos> i mean, the process should be the same, or similar, right? i just need to get the packages somehow.
[07:04] <Agent_bob> a dollar against the hole in a doughnut that in a console he would have to ask how to exit the man command .....
[07:04] <drexelxxxx> what is the quickest way to restart X without CTRL-ALT-Backspace?
[07:05] <Agent_bob> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[07:05] <drexelxxxx> thx
[07:05] <Agent_bob> that assumes a default ubuntu.
[07:05] <drexelxxxx> been looking for that for a while too
[07:05] <shizzz> ic56, when i get to the dir usr/share/man i am just looking at a bunch of other man dir's  where do i go from there?
[07:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ebastos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133772 <--- here's an idea of what it might take, which is why I don't really recommend it
[07:06] <Agent_bob> ntfs[tab] [tab]    pick one and man it.
[07:07] <ebastos> thanks
[07:07] <shizzz> ah nevermind
[07:07] <Venky>  i formated my internal laptop hard drive using gdisks now i cant enable it iam running dapper on an external usb drive can someone help
[07:07] <ic56> shizzz: ok
[07:07] <eneried> hello, how can i search a file from command line?
[07:08] <bimberi> eneried: locate file
[07:08] <imbrandon> run "sudo updatedb" first then run "locate <filename>"
[07:08] <shizzz> i used a sudo find / -name *ntfsprog*  and found it in usr/share/doc/ntfsprogs
[07:08] <eneried> thanks bimberi
[07:08] <Codename_V> Venky: enable it as in?
[07:08] <bimberi> eneried: and i was about to add imbrandon's first bit :)
[07:09] <Agent_bob> Venky sudo fdisk -l   and cat /etc/fstab    pastebin both.
[07:09] <imbrandon> bimberi,;)
[07:09] <ryan__> for upgrading the kernel, this site: http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ/KernelCompilation says to download the tarbal from  ftp.XX.kernel.org
[07:10] <ryan__> when i go there it looks like there is not a src for 64 bit, is it all the same source ?
[07:10] <drexelxxxx> Tip: type updatedb & to run it in the background
[07:10] <tritium> !kernelcompile
[07:10] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[07:10] <ryan__> it just has this ftp://ftp.ca.kernel.org/linux/kernel/v2.6
[07:10] <firebird619> I am running breezy and when the screensaver is running, or if I am playing back videos, etc., the video is jerky. It will play and then stop for a couple seconds and then play again, and so on. I have Intel Integrated Graphics. I downloaded the latest Linux drivers from Intel but when I try to install them it says /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory. What can I do to solve this problem? Can anyone help me?
[07:10] <Acidic> what is the command (like >>) to overwrite what is in the file your writing to.
[07:10] <PORDO> where do i set how many workspaces i want?
[07:10] <Agent_bob> ryan__ apt-get has kernel sourse....
[07:10] <eneried> bimberi, i didn't understand
[07:11] <Codename_V> Acidic: you're asking how you'd redirect output to a file?
[07:11] <eneried> bimberi, locate seems to be for database searching not files
[07:11] <Codename_V> Acidic: some_command > some_file
[07:11] <Acidic> Codename_V well, i know i can redirect using >>.. but this just adds to the file
[07:11] <ryan__> Agent_bob, yeah i saw that, but it doesn't have 2.6.15 or greater
[07:11] <Acidic> Codename_V: So that basiclaly erases the file and adds the output?
[07:11] <ryan__> Agent_bob,  and apparently i need it in order to have a client vpn connection to a microsoft vpn server
[07:11] <shizzz> ah sweet, that toolkit comes with mkntfs, ntfsclone, ntfsfix, ntfslabel, ntferesize and ntfsundelete
[07:12] <Codename_V> Acidic: that would overwrite any existing file, yes
[07:12] <Agent_bob> Acidic one >  write new.  two >> write new or append if exist.
[07:12] <Acidic> thankyou
[07:12] <shizzz> lol know i just have to figure how to use them
[07:12] <ic56> shizzz: read their manpages
[07:12] <ebastos> pumpernickle: looks like the plan will fail because i can't download the rpms. >,< thanks anyways, though.
[07:12] <Agent_bob> ryan__ dapper does....
[07:12] <shizzz> im sorta new to the ubuntu if you can tell
[07:12] <shizzz> lol
[07:12] <Flannel> firebird619: get rid of the screensaver ;)  theyre all really poor.
[07:13] <ic56> shizzz: man mkntfs
[07:13] <shizzz> thanks
[07:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ebastos: You can get it from cvs if you're really desperate.
[07:13] <Codename_V> PORDO: you'd go to the settings menu I'd imagine.  that or right click on the pager.  dunno though really, I'm a kde man
[07:13] <Agent_bob> ryan__ i'm running 2.6.15-20-386  here.
[07:13] <firebird619> Flannel: I can do that, but what about video playback, etc.
[07:13] <ebastos> pumpernickle: you mean, the xgl and compiz packages, right?
[07:14] <Agent_bob> ryan you on breezy ?
[07:14] <ryan__> Agent_bob, so you are running dapper then ? any pointers on how to upgrade from badger to dapper ?
[07:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ebastos: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351 <-- more info here
[07:14] <Agent_bob> !upgrade
[07:14] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[07:14] <Venky> where shud i pastebin
[07:14] <Venky> ?
[07:14] <Agent_bob> !paste
[07:14] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[07:14] <ryan__> thanks all, i'll check it out
[07:14] <Flannel> firebird619: it shouldn't be jerky oh.  Sorry, I thought you said that the playback got jerky once screensaver kicked in
[07:15] <eneried> bimberi, locate file doesn't work :(
[07:15] <Agent_bob> ryan__ dapper is prerelease still.  if that box is critical, you shouldn't upgrade it.
[07:15] <ebastos> well... what's happening is when i get to the wget command, it returns a "connection refused."
[07:16] <eneried> shizzz, tanks, your method seem to be goof
[07:16] <Agent_bob> ebastos incorrect url ?
[07:16] <shizzz> huh
[07:16] <bimberi> eneried: did you use 'file' literally?  it is supposed to be the file you're looking for
[07:16] <shizzz> what method
[07:16] <ebastos> impossible, i copied it from the instructions
[07:16] <shizzz> im getting help not giving
[07:16] <eneried> about searching files
[07:17] <shizzz> you must have misunderstood me
[07:17] <ebastos> i mean i guess it's possible the guy woh made the post messed up...
[07:17] <firebird619> Flannel: No, it is jerky with just video playback. When the screensaver runs that is jerky as well.
[07:17] <eneried> bimbery i used "locate file myfile"....
[07:17] <Agent_bob> ebastos lol  that doesn't preclude typos in the instructions   :)
[07:17] <Codename_V> shizzz: just watch it next time, ok?
[07:17] <shizzz> what are you talking about
[07:17] <Flannel> firebird619: sorry, don't knwo.
[07:17] <shizzz> codename
[07:17] <ebastos> exactly
[07:17] <Codename_V> shizzz: nothing.
[07:17] <Codename_V> shizzz: I'm being silly
[07:18] <firebird619> Flannel: Ok, thanks.
[07:18] <eneried> shizzz i mean when i asked about searching files from command line
[07:18] <shizzz> if your talking about the find / -name *ntfsprog* that was what i did to find a prog that i downloaded
[07:18] <shizzz> im confused
[07:18] <shizzz> lol
[07:18] <Agent_bob> Codename_V no joking in that tone of type.....
[07:18] <eneried> :)
[07:18] <shizzz> its all good
[07:18] <Codename_V> Agent_bob: hey, you watch it next time too, ok?
[07:20] <Agent_bob> y'all leave me alone.  someone welded my office chair in the upright possion..... and i know who the someone was....
[07:20] <Codename_V> seriously?  welded?
[07:20] <shizzz> does anyone know if fdisk will resize a ntfs file partition
[07:20] <thomasM> hi i was here earlier asking for help autoconfiguring cvs packages. I had an issue with m4 junk... now i'm stuck at some dependancies. i've tried to install both the package and the development package, but all is useless. The packages needed are glib-2.0    libgnome-2.0    libgnomeui-2.0  gconf-2.0       gdk-pixbuf-2.0  gnome-vfs-2.0   gnome-desktop-2.0       gtk+-2.0 >= 2.8
[07:20] <Agent_bob> shizzz it will not.
[07:20] <shizzz> ah ok
[07:21] <Agent_bob> shizzz it can delete it and make another.
[07:21] <Codename_V> hmm, I dunno.  a partition?  maybe.  an ntfs filesystem though, that's another story
[07:21] <thomasM> I was wondering if somebody could help me out.
[07:21] <cafuego> shizzz: 'parted' *may* be able to, but ONLY after checking ntfs for errors and defragging it.
[07:22] <shizzz> because the ntfsresize app will resize the filesystem but not the partition
[07:22] <Codename_V> thomasM: apt-get gtk-foo, apt-get gtk-bar.  or synaptic if you prefer, or whatever.  pretty straightforward.
[07:22] <thomasM> i have synaptic.
[07:23] <Agent_bob> nuke then untill they glow, and shoot them at night.    that's my moto.
[07:24] <thomasM> I'm on Dapper repos, i have no broken packages
[07:24] <Acidic> hmm
[07:24] <Acidic> having a problem with cron...
[07:25] <thomasM> anybody have any clue at all what i need? because i have all of those packages, and most -dev packages for them
[07:25] <Acidic> anyone got any experience with cron?
[07:25] <drexelxxxx> did but forgot
[07:25] <Codename_V> Acidic: that's a rather silly question
[07:25] <ic56> Acidic: ask away
[07:25] <Acidic> yea.. but i can ask it every minute if you'de like
[07:25] <thomasM> codename: do you have any idea what is wrong with my system?
[07:25] <Acidic> i have this line in /etc/crontab
[07:26] <Acidic> 23 * * * * dlugg fortune > /etc/motd
[07:26] <Acidic> 23 cuz im trying it every minute
[07:26] <Acidic> to see if it works :/
[07:26] <Codename_V> thomasM: if a configure script is giving you errors then you're simply missing a few libraries or whatever.  nothing wrong really, you're just missing the stuff you need to compile whatever it is you want to compile
[07:26] <ic56> Acidic: "23" means run it at 23 minutes past each hour.
[07:26] <Acidic> yea
[07:27] <Acidic> i've been +1 every time it doesnt work
[07:27] <Acidic> so i can see if it does :P
[07:27] <ic56> Acidic: ok.  So what doesn't work?
[07:27] <Acidic> motd doesn't get updated
[07:27] <Acidic> there's nothing in it rightn ow
[07:27] <thomasM> codename: the thing is i've check each one, and i have the packages, and the dev's
[07:27] <Codename_V> thomasM: your error being?
[07:28] <Codename_V> Acidic: maybe you oughta listen to ic56's first comment
[07:28] <thomasM> codename: that the autoconfigure script doens't know i have them.
[07:28] <ic56> Acidic: probably dlugg isn't in the path.  cron's path is pretty restricted.  You should always use absolute paths to commands invoked by cron, init, and any other daemons.
[07:28] <Codename_V> thomasM: alrighty...so maybe the exact error would help me out here.  paste it or something somewhere
[07:29] <Acidic> Codename_V... i did.. i know it runs at 23 after each hour.. but i change it after it fails to minute + 1 to see the next minute
[07:29] <Agent_bob> or only commands in /*bin/  ^
[07:29] <thomasM> its not large... i will post it here.
[07:29] <Acidic> ic56: this is the path in crontab
[07:29] <Acidic> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
[07:29] <Codename_V> ic56: that would be the user name, no?  which may or may not have write permissions on /etc/motd.
[07:29] <thomasM> checking for GTK... configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0    libgnome-2.0    libgnomeui-2.0  gconf-2.0       gdk-pixbuf-2.0  gnome-vfs-2.0   gnome-desktop-2.0       gtk+-2.0 >= 2.8) were not met:
[07:29] <thomasM> No package 'libgnome-2.0' found
[07:29] <thomasM> No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found
[07:29] <thomasM> No package 'gnome-vfs-2.0' found
[07:29] <thomasM> No package 'gnome-desktop-2.0' found
[07:29] <Acidic> Codename_V Which i've set so they do
[07:29] <Codename_V> Acidic: you'd check your mail by the way, to see any errors cron spits out
[07:29] <Acidic> where does it pop them in dlugg
[07:30] <Agent_bob> thomasM no error there ?
[07:30] <ic56> Ooops. Yes, I meant the path to fortune not dlug.  fortune is typically in /usr/games
[07:30] <thomasM> agent_bob: i have all of those packages though!
[07:30] <Acidic> oh rigt
[07:30] <Acidic> that would do it too
[07:31] <Agent_bob> thomasM libs path error ?   script looking in the wrong place ?
[07:31] <thomasM> agentbob: apparently... but what libs is it looking for?
[07:31] <thomasM> o here it is
[07:31] <Acidic> ic56: so i added :/usr/games to crontab
[07:31] <Agent_bob> get in the script and see what exactly it is looking for, then  fine /  it
[07:32] <thomasM> Alternatively, you may set the environment variables GTK_CFLAGS
[07:32] <thomasM> and GTK_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
[07:32] <thomasM> See the pkg-config man page for more details.
[07:32] <Acidic> ic56: im waiting for the minute to pass on the server so i can see if it worked
[07:32] <thomasM> >< didn't see that there before...
[07:32] <Agent_bob> :)
[07:32] <Acidic> ic56: didn't work :/
[07:33] <ic56> Acidic: you are just asking for a rootkit exploit when you expand a daemon's path.
[07:33] <Acidic> so instead i should just add the full path of fortune
[07:33] <Codename_V> Acidic: hehe, you sure you're listening here?  23 would be at 23 past the hour.  you'd want * if you want ever minute
[07:34] <ic56> Acidic: yes. add the full path to fortune.  However, that isn't the reason it didn't work.
[07:34] <Codename_V> or maybe I just need to look at the man page...
[07:34] <Acidic> Codename_v in testing that would probably be correct.... but i want it every hour
[07:34] <GTroy> will Automatix KILL ME?!!!???
[07:34] <Acidic> Codename_V so.. i would want it at a set minute after every hour correct?
[07:34] <thomasM> gtroy are you running dapper?
[07:34] <Agent_bob> GTroy no.  but the help in here will if you use it....
[07:35] <GTroy> thomasM: no
[07:35] <thomasM> ur fine..
[07:35] <Acidic> ic56: Ok, i fixed that about
[07:35] <Agent_bob> !automatix
[07:35] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:35] <GTroy> Agent_bob: hahaha
[07:35] <GTroy> dammnit
[07:35] <ic56> Acidic: now, I assume you're using /etc/crontab rather than a private user crontab?
[07:35] <Acidic> yea
[07:35] <thomasM> gtroy automatix is fine if ur running breezy.
[07:35] <GTroy> ok cool
[07:35] <GTroy> thanks thamsM
[07:35] <thomasM> i hacked it up a little
[07:36] <thomasM> didn't break dapper even.
[07:36] <GTroy> I switched back to breezy after I couldn't get ndiswrapper to work on beta
[07:36] <Acidic> ic56: yes
[07:36] <drexelxxxx> what is dapper going to be based on? gnome or kde?
[07:37] <GTroy> anybody tried flock?
[07:37] <GTroy> better web picture
[07:37] <Agent_bob> drexelxxxx no.  it's based on debian
[07:37] <GTroy> and as fast as firefox pipelined
[07:37] <drexelxxxx> what is the default desktop manager in other works
[07:37] <drexelxxxx> words
[07:37] <GTroy> gnome is
[07:38] <Agent_bob> gnome
[07:38] <thomasM> dapper is gnome..
[07:38] <ubuntu> my ubuntu is slow can some one help pls
[07:38] <ic56> Acidic: you need to give more than 1 minute advance.  cron checks that file once a minute. Give 3 minutes advance to be sure.
[07:38] <Codename_V> ubuntu: amd?
[07:38] <drexelxxxx> did you update your video driver?
[07:38] <Agent_bob> ubuntu defaults to gnome piriod.
[07:38] <ubuntu> I am running a 1.8 P4
[07:38] <Acidic> well... by Codename_V's suggestion i turned it onto * for minutes
[07:38] <Acidic> see if that helps
[07:38] <drexelxxxx> oh right because of the name
[07:39] <Acidic> ic56: hmm
[07:39] <Codename_V> Acidic: you check dluggs mail ever?  your errors would be there.
[07:39] <Agent_bob> drexelxxxx kubuntu defaults to kde piriod
[07:39] <drexelxxxx> yeah
[07:39] <Acidic> Codename_V: Where would that be located
[07:39] <Acidic> ic56: I have manually fortune > motd to see if there was a change
[07:39] <Codename_V> Acidic: /var/spool/mail I guess?  just run mutt, or mail or pine or something.
[07:40] <roxas> Yeah, I would liek to know where kubuntu is?
[07:40] <Acidic> ic56: and after the minute... motd cleared
[07:40] <drexelxxxx> I didn't like it
[07:40] <drexelxxxx> I had a lot of problems
[07:40] <Acidic> ic56: there was something in there, and there isn't now
[07:40] <Agent_bob> Acidic have you manually dlugg fortune > /etc/motd  ?
[07:40] <Acidic> yes
[07:41] <Acidic> Agent_bob: yes... it put one in there, then as the minute passed /etc/motd cleared
[07:41] <Acidic> Agent_bob: contents erased
[07:41] <Acidic> Codename_v: Nothing in /var/spool/mail
[07:41] <Codename_V> Acidic: just try >& so errors go in there or something
[07:41] <Codename_V> fortune >& /etc/motd
[07:42] <roxas> And I always had trouble installing things.
[07:42] <cafuego> Acidic: Why don't you call `fortune' in /etc/profile?
[07:42] <roxas> It said I never had a C Complier.
[07:42] <roxas> Any help with that?
[07:42] <Agent_bob> hmmm maybe man fortune and see if there is a -f switch or somethin....   looks like stdout not accessable or redirrected Acidic
[07:42] <Codename_V> Acidic: dunno then.  maybe system mail isn't set up by default on ubuntu
[07:42] <cafuego> Acidic: That way it only rusn on login, as opposed to onc a minite.
[07:42] <PORDO> can anyone help me get qjackctl working properly?
[07:42] <Agent_bob> or sorry dlugg
[07:42] <PORDO> my input is all broken up with xruns.
[07:42] <ebastos> question, if i want to use dpkg to install a deb, the parameter is -i right?
[07:42] <PORDO> correct.
[07:43] <ebastos> woo
[07:43] <Agent_bob> it will be the output of dlugg that hits motd
[07:43] <drexelxxxx> ys
[07:43] <Acidic> cafuego: Does that do ssh logins also?
[07:43] <theshibboleth> Is anyone here familiar with MJPEG-tools? How do I turn a .yuv file into a mpeg?
[07:43] <PORDO> any ardour users here?
[07:43] <shizzz> ok for anyone that has been helping with the ntfs partition resizing i want to thank you. it looks like all i had to do was install the ntfsprogs then launch the gparted app. apparently gparted uses the tools from ntfsprogs.  yeahhhhh  ;) sweet
[07:43] <cafuego> Acidic: If the user has bash set as shell, sure.
[07:43] <PORDO> theshibboleth turn it into a .ogg
[07:43] <theshibboleth> PORDO: how?
[07:44] <nucleic> anyone here a networking guru?
[07:44] <roxas> nucleic: I know some
[07:44] <roxas> What do you need help on.
[07:44] <roxas> *?
[07:44] <nucleic> right, set up Ubuntu on my work box, set all the networking to the relevant detail
[07:44] <Acidic> Agent_bob: Wouldn't that stop me from having fortune > motd work as dlugg?
[07:45] <nucleic> and it doesn't seem to be getting to the gateway
[07:45] <PORDO> theshibboleth you realize that i just suggested you turn it into a theora file instead of mpeg right?  it was sort of a joke.  sorry.
[07:45] <roxas> Do you have DHCP enabled?
[07:45] <nucleic> no DHCP here
[07:45] <roxas> Or do you manually configure your net?
[07:45] <roxas> So it's the latter.
[07:45] <nucleic> manual
[07:45] <nucleic> yep
[07:45] <theshibboleth> PORDO: sorry... ok... I'm about to too lost right now to get jokes :)
[07:45] <Agent_bob> Acidic i corrected.   man dlugg for a -f  not fortune    sorry i didn't Q you with your nick
[07:45] <flash_> hi i just setup ubuntu, and i was wondering if there was a simple way to add the kubuntu package (with apt-get or something)?
[07:45] <nucleic> I'm a windows desktop support guy, I'm a bit lost, that why I came in here
[07:46] <roxas> Go to System -> Administration -> Networks
[07:46] <Acidic> Agent_bob: man a user?
[07:46] <theshibboleth> (not mean to type "about".... again, lost
[07:46] <roxas> Then on your ethernet connection, click it and then choose properties.
[07:46] <ic56> Codename_V: /var/spool/mail exists in Ubunut.  It's just that no cli mail readers are installed.
[07:46] <roxas> Then set it to a static IP address and configure it manually.
[07:46] <mDot> ive completely uninstalled KDE, then reinstalled two k apps, amaroK and Kaffeine. The 'feature' in KDE that puts a mac OSX like menu bar at the top of the screen keeps popping up, any idea on how to get rid of it?
[07:47] <Agent_bob> Acidic that's a user.  hehhe ok.. then man fortune and see if it has output to file capabilities.     -f  switch
[07:47] <Acidic> Agent_bob: it does -f Print out the list of files which would be searched, but dont print a fortune.
[07:48] <Acidic> might i try to use /etc/motd also? :P
[07:48] <Agent_bob> --file   -o  --output   ?
[07:48] <nucleic> Roxas: It's all already set
[07:48] <Acidic> offensive :P
[07:48] <Acidic> and no, i dont see those
[07:49] <Agent_bob> Acidic you can look in / and see if init has been writing to there heh
[07:49] <Acidic> no, i went and checked.. it's already /etc/motd
[07:49] <Acidic> and if it had.. the motd file wouldn't have been overwritten
[07:49] <roxas> Nucleic, then you should be able to logon to your network.
[07:49] <roxas> Because you are trhough the gateway, for you are on here.
[07:50] <roxas> Unless you are using another system.
[07:50] <nucleic> On my XP box
[07:50] <roxas> Is that the one you are trying to configure?
[07:50] <ic56> Acidic: try this: fortune >/etc/motd 2>/etc/motd.err
[07:50] <nucleic> might be a problem with the hosts file?
[07:50] <Acidic> Agent_bob: i've solved the proglem
[07:50] <Acidic> Agent_bob: But im embarrased to say how
[07:50] <roxas> That's what I am guessing.
[07:50] <nucleic> no, Ubuntu is on it's own box
[07:50] <roxas> I figured that much after I typed it.
[07:50] <roxas> Lack of sleep :P
[07:51] <ic56> Acidic: tell us so we know what to ask the next guy who's doing something silly.
[07:51] <nucleic> lol
[07:51] <roxas> Anyways, it could be the host's finle.
[07:51] <Acidic> ic56: Your solution on adding the path was correct... the path i added was not :P
[07:51] <roxas> *file
[07:51] <ic56> ah ok.
[07:51] <Acidic> adding /etc/games ftl
[07:51] <Acidic> so used to using /etc/ tonight just got me into typing that for three letter directories :P
[07:52] <Acidic> and it works now
[07:52] <roxas> But let me ask though, have you tried to enable DHCP to see if you can catch yoru already activated network?
[07:52] <nucleic> We have no DHCP on our network
[07:52] <Agent_bob> Acidic you were told to use full path on that command an hour ago.
[07:52] <ic56> Acidic: teh way to avoid this kind of error is to not type things in manually.  In your case you should have pasted the otuput of "which fortune"
[07:52] <roxas> Sometimes it can work without it activated.  But that really depends on the server environment, I do believe.
[07:52] <Codename_V> lol
[07:52] <Acidic> Agent_bob: And i did
[07:53] <Acidic> Agent_bob: The full path i entered was incorrect.
[07:53] <ic56> Acidic: what editor do you use?
[07:53] <Acidic> ic56: vim for the moment
[07:53] <ic56> Acidic: know how to import output from commands in vim?
[07:53] <Acidic> ic56: no i do now
[07:53] <Acidic> ic56: no i do no
[07:53] <Acidic> not*
[07:54] <ic56> Acidic: to import the output of a command in the vim editor, type:  :r!command  In your cse, you would have typed :r!which fortune
[07:54] <roxas> But I did have a question for anyone out there.  When I stry to run a program to compile it, it says that it cannot find a C Complier in the $PATH....can I ask to see if anyone can help me with that?
[07:55] <Agent_bob> what's some good apps for the X window system?    light weight of corse....   ?
[07:55] <Acidic> when i type which fortune as root i get no output
[07:55] <Acidic> i do when dlugg
[07:55] <Agent_bob> cause /usr/games/ isn't in root's path
[07:55] <Acidic> i dont think dlugg can edit crontab :/
[07:55] <Acidic> well, i could set that
[07:56] <nucleic> roxas, you need to install GCC
[07:56] <ic56> Acidic: best not add games to root's PATH.
[07:56] <Acidic> aye
[07:56] <roxas> nucleic: Where do I go to do that?
[07:56] <Acidic> and i didn't really want to allow non-roots to change around crontab
[07:56] <Agent_bob> in vim   :r!su - dlugg which fortune
[07:56] <nucleic> roxas : sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:57] <roxas> nucleic: I assume that's a terminal command?
[07:57] <Agent_bob> roxas it are
[07:57] <Acidic> mmmm
[07:58] <Acidic> Agent_bob: Thanks, it didn't say it wanted a password, but i coulda guessed
[07:58] <shizzz> does anyone know what file i need to edit so that during boot up i can skip two of my ntfs mountings?
[07:58] <ic56> Acidic: given that which under root wouldn't give the needed output, you could of done this:  which fortune |sudo bash -c 'cat >>/etc/crontab'
[07:58] <nucleic> roxas : yes mate
[07:58] <Agent_bob> running su as root should never ask for a passwd
[07:58] <roxas> Good.  I am getting that now.
[07:58] <bimberi> shizzz: /etc/fstab
[07:58] <shizzz> thank you! ;)
[07:59] <roxas> It asked for it anyway.
[07:59] <Acidic> ah.. well i wasn't root.. lemme try that again
[07:59] <roxas> BTW, how do you login as root?
[07:59] <Acidic> you dont login
[07:59] <Acidic> you sudo -s
[07:59] <meshe> is dapper better at detecting nic's than breezy is?  the breezy installer see's my nics but i can't bring them up
[07:59] <bimberi> shizzz: yw :)
[07:59] <roxas> Ah.
[07:59] <Agent_bob> !sudo
[07:59] <ubotu> I guess sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:59] <roxas> So now I know.
[07:59] <Agent_bob> should read ^
[07:59] <roxas> I will.
[08:00] <roxas> For this is the first time I am going to get Ubuntu fully working
[08:00] <roxas> Thanks guys.
[08:00] <ic56> !whysudo
[08:01] <Acidic> nn
[08:01] <Agent_bob> hmmm i've never had "ubuntu fully working" .....   it's always a hack for me.
[08:02] <Agent_bob> i install-server and apt-get remove ubuntu-base   and go from there....
[08:02] <drexelxxxx> chroot is amazing
[08:02] <mDot> you know what..... im done no more fooling around. i refuse to restart this machine until the next kernel update
[08:02] <Agent_bob> jah
[08:02] <shizzz> binneri, it appears to have a readonly status i guess becuase the file has been loaded. do you kow how get a version that i can write to?
[08:04] <shizzz> yeah sudo -i creates a root user shell to run commands in
[08:05] <Agent_bob> if you go root'n around / you'll make a mire of your fs....
[08:06] <Agent_bob> hmmmm i wonder if there is a command that one could issue that would show a list of installed window managers ?
[08:06] <bimberi> shizzz: yes, better to use sudo (eg. 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab') then you're only superuser for the duration of the edit
[08:07] <shizzz> ok thanks
[08:07] <Apomb> a key on my keyboard stoed working
[08:08] <Agent_bob> is it the P ?
[08:08] <Apomb> you guessed it
[08:08] <Agent_bob> yay    *claps*
[08:09] <Apomb> i was laying around in the keyboard shortcuts menu and when i closed it, it stoed working
[08:09] <RobyX> Can someone help me with installing WIne.
[08:10] <Agent_bob> does the big P still work ?
[08:10] <Apomb> noe
[08:10] <Agent_bob> RobyX sudo apt-get install wine
[08:10] <Apomb> but the cursor acts like its getting a character
[08:10] <whyami> RobyX: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[08:10] <ic56> Agent_bob: for a list of installed window mgrs, you might try searching for packages that "Provide" window-manager or some virtual package name like that.
[08:11] <painkiler> hey guys
[08:11] <painkiler> i just updated ubuntu
[08:11] <Apomb> hello ainkiller
[08:11] <painkiler> and it rewrote my grub config
[08:11] <painkiler> now i can't select windows.
[08:11] <painkiler> how do i reconfig it?
[08:11] <Agent_bob> ic56 hmmmmm  what about parsing the menu file  ?
[08:11] <whyami> Agent_bob: if you install wine from the standard ubuntu repos...it's pretty outdated...
[08:11] <drexelxxxx> change the (1,1) to (0,1)
[08:11] <drexelxxxx> what I do
[08:12] <drexelxxxx> if you have sata
[08:12] <Kakason> Hello, Is there any programs on Ubuntu, that is like Alcohol 120%?
[08:12] <Agent_bob> whyami and ?   i used the default wine in mdk9 and liked it.   how outdated are you talking here 6/7 years ?
[08:12] <drexelxxxx> good question kakason
[08:12] <drexelxxxx> i'm sure there is
[08:13] <painkiler> how can i get grub just to automatically find my oses on my pc?
[08:13] <whyami> Agent_bob: Wine is under fast development. For example, I couldn't get IE to work with the Wine from ubuntu repos, but the binary provided by winehq at http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb works great.
[08:13] <Agent_bob> ic56 mmm give me a second.  i'm still working on that.
[08:13] <drexelxxxx> grub install ?
[08:13] <drexelxxxx> can't remember
[08:13] <Kakason> Yeah, I was searching for one like a while ago, but gave me no results.
[08:14] <Hexidigital> kakason, are you looking to mount .iso?
[08:14] <Get_A_Fix> hello
[08:14] <RobyX> Well actually I was doing the tutorial posted here http://tinyurl.com/nblqy and at one point it tells me "next click install windows system software then click ok" but I dont see that option in the setup.
[08:14] <ic56> Apomb: you mean the cursor moves forward one space when you press the P key?
[08:14] <drexelxxxx> get CrossOver Office
[08:14] <selinium> !tell painkiler about grub
[08:14] <Kakason> Hexidigital: yeah mainly that
[08:14] <drexelxxxx> for wine
[08:14] <Hexidigital>  kakason, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountIso?highlight=%28mount%29%7C%28iso%29
[08:14] <Agent_bob> ic56 hmmmm /etc/menu-methods/   may hold the answer
[08:14] <drexelxxxx> and cedega for games
[08:14] <Apomb> no not so much ... it just stays there, but it stos blinking, ic56
[08:15] <Kakason> Hexidigital: Hey thanks dude
[08:15] <Hexidigital> kakason, np
[08:15] <ic56> Apomb: try the "reset" command.  Just type reset.  Does it fix things?
[08:15] <RobyX> So anyone know what I can do lol.
[08:15] <Apomb> reset
[08:15] <Apomb> ?
[08:15] <Apomb> where
[08:15] <Apomb> terminal
[08:16] <drexelxxxx> oh yeah that mount iso
[08:16] <Hexidigital> what program would be most comparable with nero? gnomebaker a good one?
[08:16] <drexelxxxx> so what program do you use to make an ISO file of the mount loop?
[08:16] <ic56> Apomb? Was that a question?
[08:16] <Agent_bob> iv56 i think i can find /etc/menu-methods -type e    and get a list that way.
[08:16] <Apomb> yeah ... sorry
[08:16] <Get_A_Fix> could anyone tell me where to get info on how to make a program run at boot ime in Breezy ?
[08:17] <drexelxxxx> I like K3B
[08:17] <RobyX> Nevermind, figured it out.
[08:17] <Hexidigital> drexelxxxx, is k3b compatable with gnome?
[08:18] <Hexidigital> Get_A_Fix, what desktop manager do you use?
[08:18] <PwcrLinux> Hello all :)
[08:18] <Get_A_Fix> Hexidigital: gnome
[08:18] <Kakason> drexelxxx: I use GnomeBaker to make my isos
[08:18] <drexelxxxx> in console I mean
[08:19] <drexelxxxx> yeah I would use K3B for that
[08:19] <Hexidigital> System -> Preferences -> Sessions... startup tab, Get_A_Fix
[08:19] <Get_A_Fix> Hexidigital, many thanks - wanting noip2 to start at boot  - thanks
[08:19] <Hexidigital> Get_A_Fix, np
[08:20] <shizzz> ok i thought that i had this whole ntfs partitioning thing down. i downloaded/installed the ntfsprogs toolkit and gparted.  then was able to resize the partition inside of gparted, but then when i go to save the changes it says the partition is busy. This is weird becuase i removed the mounting entry in the /etc/fstab and then rebooted. can someone help?
[08:20] <meshe> can you think of a reason why ubuntu can see my nic's but the link light won't come on and it won't dhcp an address?  i tested the cable, the port and the dhcp server on my laptop's install of breezy
[08:20] <Kakason> For some reason, when I boot up my computer, my network doesn't activate, like I have to make it active every time I log on? Any tips on this?
[08:21] <meshe> Kakason: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[08:21] <meshe> Kakason: add the line at the bottom:
[08:21] <fwp> KEEP IT G'D UP
[08:21] <meshe> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:22] <meshe> that should keep it active
[08:22] <Kakason> meshe: thanks
[08:22] <meshe> np
[08:22] <meshe> replace eth0 with your interface if it's different
[08:23] <Kakason> yeah, ok
[08:23] <shizzz> can anyone help with my partitioning question
[08:24] <Agent_bob> ic56 thanks for the confirmation on that.    i'm working out the code now.
[08:24] <drexelxxxx> ubuntu have an automounter?
[08:24] <drexelxxxx> if so then it probably mounted the partition
[08:25] <drexelxxxx> and you can't resize it
[08:25] <drexelxxxx> i'm guess
[08:25] <drexelxxxx> ing
[08:25] <shizzz> well the partitions dont show up in the gnome interface
[08:25] <Kakason> shizzz: I'm no expert at this, but did you try unmounting it from media? sudo umount /media/hda(#)
[08:25] <shizzz> after i removed the fstab entries
[08:25] <ic56> meshe: does ifconfig eth0 up turn on the light, at least?
[08:25] <drexelxxxx> do "mount"
[08:25] <drexelxxxx> to see what is mounted
[08:25] <shizzz> no i just tried the fstab file
[08:25] <drexelxxxx> try the mount command
[08:25] <shizzz> k
[08:25] <kingspawn> shizzz: just type "mount" to see if its mounted
[08:25] <drexelxxxx> see if it is there
[08:26] <ic56> shizzz: is it the partition or the filesystem that's busy?
[08:26] <drexelxxxx> that is the linux way
[08:26] <shizzz> no it is not mounted
[08:26] <drexelxxxx> hmm
[08:26] <shizzz> kingspawn it is not mounted
[08:27] <drexelxxxx> kinda hard to determine what may have happened
[08:27] <ic56> shizzz: did you perhaps invoke gparted twice?  Maybe it checks to see there aren't other instances of itself or of similar programs to prevent stepping on each other's work.
[08:27] <george_> sdss
[08:27] <george_> hi
[08:27] <shizzz> but after i edit the size in gparted and then try to save the new size value gparted errors out with a device busy err
[08:27] <jmrivera> try with the cfdisk command to see the partitions
[08:28] <Kakason> How much hdds do you have?
[08:28] <drexelxxxx> you might be using the wrong hard drive
[08:28] <shizzz> k
[08:28] <shizzz> one sec
[08:29] <drexelxxxx> sda1 - whatever for SATA/SCSI hda1 - whatever for IDE
[08:29] <meshe> ic56: sorry, just lost my wifi on my laptop for a sec there
[08:30] <shizzz> yeah but no only the one instance is running
[08:30] <shizzz> actually i rebooted
[08:31] <shizzz> let me see if its the filesytem or partition
[08:31] <Agent_bob> ic56  i think this will work....
[08:31] <Agent_bob> for BLAH in $(find /etc/menu-methods -type f)
[08:31] <Agent_bob>     do if [ -x $BLAH ] 
[08:31] <Agent_bob>         then echo $BLAH | cut -d'/' -f'4'
[08:31] <Agent_bob>     fi
[08:31] <Agent_bob> done
[08:31] <PwcrLinux> !paste
[08:31] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[08:31] <Agent_bob> paste paste flood flood  yeah
[08:31] <shizzz> ic56 here is the error that i am getting
[08:32] <ic56> Agent_bob: why all this complexity?
[08:32] <hedge> Is there a keyboard combination in Ubuntu to get the gui process table? Have tried crtl+esc, and can't find the process table in the apps...
[08:32] <rinke> I'm looking for a desktop. Can somebody help me with to choose?
[08:32] <chip42> ic56: you don't like it? pretty cool the shell environment can be scripted real time like that
[08:33] <Agent_bob> an automaticly updated list of window managers to choose when calling a startx command    remember  nosuid so i have to modify a few things...
[08:33] <shizzz> a busy device is a device with at least one mounted partition. Becuase making changes to a busy device may confuse the kernel, you are advised to rebot your computer
[08:33] <whyami> hedge: are you looking for the equivalent of the task manager in Windows?
[08:33] <hedge> Basically, yea....
[08:33] <hedge> Had one in Fedora as I recall
[08:33] <Erik_Boi>  /msg nickserv register 0455989
[08:34] <whyami> hedge: what I did was install the system monitor applet, then I click on that. There may be another way that I don't know.
[08:34] <shizzz> sunds sorta like a generic msg
[08:34] <drexelxxxx> all it is is a key assignment
[08:34] <PwcrLinux> Erik_Boi: whoa, you better change pwd..
[08:34] <Erik_Boi> yeah, not really sure what i am doing
[08:35] <Hexidigital>  Erik_Boi, pm me, i'll walk you through
[08:35] <chip42> i think people confuse elegant and illegible, but thats just me :\
[08:35] <ic56> Agent_bob: how about this: find /etc/menu-methods -type f -perm +111 -print |sed 's#.*/##'
[08:35] <hedge> whyami, thx I'll give that a shot
[08:35] <PORDO> does anyone here have much experience with linux audio?  i need to figure out what's causing my xruns in jack.
[08:36] <whyami> PORDO: are you running with realtime priority?
[08:36] <PORDO> i thought that wasn't necessary now.
[08:36] <drexelxxxx> wonder when I'm going to get to the point where I can write out command lines that long
[08:36] <PORDO> some guys in #ardour said that the kernel now has something that depracates realtime-lsm
[08:37] <Kakason> Can anyone point me to a site that has performance tweaks? I'm such a performance freak. ^_^
[08:37] <PORDO> i have realtime priority checked.
[08:37] <whyami> PORDO: I hadn't heard that it wasn't necessary. Try running jack as root and see if you still get the xrun errors.
[08:37] <Agent_bob> ic56 what if one or more was not +111   maybe +1  ?
[08:37] <PORDO> hrm
[08:37] <whyami> PORDO: do you have realtime-lsm installed and working?
[08:37] <PORDO> how do i modprobe it?
[08:38] <Agent_bob> that is why i was falling back to if -x  but if find can do the same.....   looks good to me.
[08:38] <whyami> you have to use the module assistant. But don't bother until you try running as root (which doesn't need realtime-lsm to run in realtime) and seeing if that makes a difference.
[08:39] <drexelxxxx> ubuntu needs to come with SDL prepackaged
[08:39] <whyami> PORDO: I have to go to bed...but if you want instructions on installing realtime-lsm you can find them as part of this website: http://fort.xdas.com/~kor/oss2jack/install.html
[08:40] <PORDO> by the way, i can only get envy24control to run from command line, not from the run dialog.  any thoughts on that?
[08:40] <kingspawn> drexelxxxx: takes you about 20 seconds to install it
[08:40] <drexelxxxx> I can't find it in the repository though
[08:40] <kingspawn> PORDO: is it a a console application?
[08:40] <drexelxxxx> probably better to just download it anywyas
[08:40] <Hexidigital> drexelxxxx, do you have universe enabled?
[08:40] <kingspawn> drexelxxxx: its there. just do apt-cache search sdl
[08:41] <drexelxxxx> ok
[08:41] <whyami> PORDO: no sorry I'm not familiar with envy24control...
[08:41] <drexelxxxx> nice didn't know about that part of apt
[08:41] <kingspawn> drexelxxxx: very useful :)
[08:42] <PORDO> kingspawn ??
[08:42] <PwcrLinux> anyway, anyone how I put the short cut for the auto log into other shell server on desktop auto-open terminal box?
[08:42] <PORDO> kingspawn what do you mean a console application?
[08:42] <imacusr> does ubuntu work on the new intel imacs?
[08:42] <Agent_bob> ic56  hehhe man find says   +mode  Deprecated,  old way of searching for files with any of the  permission bits in mode set.  You should use -perm  /mode  instead.
[08:42] <Kakason> Hey, how do I delete a folder that isn't empty?
[08:42] <hedge> whyami, system monitor isn't coming up in the search in synaptic, is there another name for it maybe?
[08:42] <kingspawn> PORDO: is it supposed to run from the terminal? like, not a gui-application with windows and buttons and all
[08:43] <kingspawn> Kakason: rm -rf folder
[08:43] <Kakason> kingspawn: oo thanks
[08:43] <PORDO> kingspawn so what?
[08:44] <PORDO> kingspawn you should be able to run any command from the run dialog, no?
[08:44] <Flannel> hedge: applications > system tools > system monitor
[08:44] <Kakason> hedge: I think its called gnome-system-monitor
[08:44] <kingspawn> PORDO: well, that might be the reason its not starting up. you need to 1) run it with a terminal, ie with aterm you would run it with aterm -e programname
[08:44] <hedge> thx
[08:44] <PORDO> why would i need to run any program with a terminal?
[08:44] <kingspawn> PORDO: not always. imagine running "ls" from run command. you will be running ls, but the output has nowhere to go
[08:45] <PORDO> it goes to the standard output.
[08:45] <kingspawn> PORDO: well ok then
[08:45] <PORDO> ah!
[08:45] <PORDO> it works if i pipe the output to /dev/null
[08:45] <PORDO> ;)
[08:45] <PORDO> you helped me figure that one out dude.
[08:46] <kingspawn> good
[08:47] <Rhisc> hi
[08:47] <Rhisc> wow I just installed ubuntu, this is my first time using gnome
[08:47] <Rhisc> I am impressed
[08:48] <kingspawn> :)
[08:48] <Rhisc> I need help
[08:48] <Rhisc> I cant get ndiswrapper to work with my network card drivers
[08:49] <hedge> What kind of a card is it?
[08:49] <drexelxxxx> yeah gnome is pretty nice crisp desktop
[08:49] <Rhisc> i have a belkin wireless g plus
[08:49] <Rhisc> I think the model number is fd700
[08:49] <drexelxxxx> I have been looking into the Java Desktop and haven't really been able to get it installed
[08:50] <PwcrLinux> How I create the shortcut to login onto other shell server on desktop auto-open terminal?
[08:50] <Rhisc> drexelxxxx, I like how all of the administration options are under system
[08:50] <Rhisc> drexelxxxx, Its a mess in kde
[08:51] <drexelxxxx> yeah kde is kind of a mess but good in other ways too
[08:51] <drexelxxxx> they both have their goods and bads
[08:51] <Rhisc> yeah
[08:51] <havien> ok i have a simple question i think
[08:51] <drexelxxxx> I like konquerer using the terminal in the window
[08:52] <havien> i installed a game with the autopackage format where would it be located at?
[08:52] <drexelxxxx> menu
[08:52] <hedge> Rhisc, have you looked at this in the wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?action=show&redirect=SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[08:53] <RobyX> I just installed Wine, where do I go to access MyComputer with a simulated Win98 on my pc?
[08:53] <beta_m> I'm trying to make a network in my room, with this (ubuntu) computer "in charge" of it. yesterday somebody started to tell me about iptable's but i didn't understand most of the commands... is there somewhere i can read to actually try to understand what i need to do... and what is going on
[08:53] <Rhisc> hedge: yes, and most of the drivers I tried didnt want to work either,
[08:53] <drexelxxxx> you don't run wine as a windows desktop
[08:53] <drexelxxxx> wine just runs windows apps
[08:53] <Rhisc> hedge: I think I may need to upgrade to a newer version of ndiswrapper
[08:54] <drexelxxxx> and some games
[08:54] <Rhisc> hedge: but I cant get the build to work right, it says it is missing kernel libraries
[08:54] <hedge> ndiswrapper -l shows no driver and device present?
[08:54] <Rhisc> hedge: it says driver invalid
[08:54] <hedge> ok
[08:55] <plbgnr> hello, how can I find out which packages are on ubuntu dvd ? ...is it accessible some web application for search its content?
[08:56] <drexelxxxx> libdvdcss
[08:56] <hedge> Well if ya think the ndiswrapper needs to be upgraded the instructions are on that page also
[08:56] <Flannel> no... he means the ubuntu install DVD
[08:56] <drexelxxxx> ah hehe
[08:56] <drexelxxxx> sorry
[08:56] <Agent_bob> ic56  yes.
[08:57] <Flannel> plbgnr: you can look at all the packages in ubuntu, at packages.ubuntu.com  I don't think theres a list of whats on teh DVD though.  Or at least, not that Im aware of
[08:57] <drexelxxxx> you select the packages at installation and you download from there i thought
[08:58] <Agent_bob> ic56 i think that all window managers seem to put a file in /etc/X11/<wm>/ called <wm>-menu   i'm working on that angel atm.
[08:58] <plbgnr>  drexelxxxx: yes but rt2400 package I need on dvd direct because it is kernel module for wifi card ...which is used for connecting to internet
[08:59] <atomx> kinda newbie question:  i need to customize a freedos bootable iso to flash my bios (asus)... not sure how to do that, any pointers/urls/rtfms welcome :)
[09:00] <dion33> when re-compiling the dapper linux kernel, is this page still valid? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto  ..if so, how is the bootsplash implemented into it?
[09:00] <kingspawn> dion33: #ubuntu+1
[09:01] <dion33> ok
[09:02] <hedge> atomx, check out this site: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[09:03] <Agent_bob> would someone with gnome and any other wm please test this and tell me the output please ?            find /etc/X11 -type f -name *-menu* | cut -d'/' -f'4'| sort -u
[09:03] <PwcrLinux> How I create the shortcut to login onto other shell server on desktop auto-open terminal?
[09:04] <atomx> hedge, thanks for that but unless I'm mistaken that's just gonna give me another bootable image, yes?  I have no floppy or I'd be set already :(  sry didnt mention that up front
[09:04] <Hexidigital> Agent_bob, no output for me
[09:04] <tejinder> whats those lvm and evms daemons at startup. do i need them if i am a normal home use?
[09:04] <painkiller> could someone tell me how do reconfigure grub automatically, so it finds all my OSes.
[09:04] <tejinder> user*
[09:04] <PORDO> how do i get realtime-lsm?  do i need to compile it myself?
[09:04] <PORDO> use module-assistant?
[09:04] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: include the terminal in the shortcut?
[09:04] <Agent_bob> Hexidigital and you do have gnome  ?
[09:04] <Hexidigital> yes
[09:04] <Agent_bob> k thanks.
[09:04] <Hexidigital> np
[09:05] <hedge> atomx, can ya make a CD and boot to it?
[09:05] <PwcrLinux> Kingspawn: using a launcher to open terminal and auto log onto other shell server using  SSH strings..
[09:05] <Agent_bob> Hexidigital what other wm do you have ?
[09:05] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: use a launcher to launch a terminal that launches a script that does the ssh-stuff
[09:05] <painkiller> could someone tell me how do reconfigure grub automatically, so it finds all my OSes.
[09:05] <Rhisc> well I gotta go
[09:05] <Rhisc> thanks for the help
[09:05] <leeyee> Hi guys
[09:05] <atomx> hedge, yup
[09:06] <PwcrLinux> Kind: yep, I would like that..  I click terminal on icon and let it's automatically log onto other shell server.. how I can create it?
[09:06] <hedge> atomx, then use the iso and burn a cd
[09:06] <hedge> :)
[09:06] <leeyee> How do you know which booting up scripts are important for your os ?
[09:06] <Hexidigital> agent_bob, gnome is the only one
[09:07] <Agent_bob> PwcrLinux write the script to do that and launch the script from the icon.
[09:07] <atomx> hedge, which iso?  for ultimate boot cd?
[09:07] <Agent_bob> Hexidigital oh.  ok.  thanks again.
[09:07] <PwcrLinux> Agent_bob: how?
[09:07] <Hexidigital> agent_bob, i'm sorry.. i didnt realize you specified people with 2 window managers
[09:07] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: well, what are the commands you want it to perform? you can just make a bash script
[09:08] <Agent_bob> PwcrLinux what commands do you have to issue to do the login on the other box ?
[09:08] <atomx> hedge, further context:  the iso i have is freedos, not freedos+awdflash+my_flash_image (which is what I need)
[09:08] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: SSH ipaddy -l loginname pwd
[09:09] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: well, to create the script you simply edit a file, at the top put #!/bin/bash  on line two you add the command you need to run, and save it. make it executable by doing chmod +x filename to it
[09:09] <Agent_bob> PwcrLinux put them in a file call it this-here-script and set the perms to 700  make the launcher point to it....  presto.
[09:09] <WarOfAttrition> I just screwed up sudoers - is there a way to fix this?
[09:10] <Flannel> fix it.
[09:10] <hedge> atomx, you can insert what you need into the ism before burning it
[09:10] <Agent_bob> WarOfAttrition sure.  boot to single user mode and fix it.
[09:10] <hedge> iso sorry
[09:10] <Flannel> singleuser mode, or a liveCD will do it too
[09:10] <WarOfAttrition> how do I do this Agent_bob ?
[09:11] <Agent_bob> at the boot prompt hit [esc]    edit the kernel line add  1    and boot.
[09:11] <Kakason> How do I change the file owner of a folder + the folders contents?
[09:11] <PwcrLinux> Agent_bob: Hmm should I create a launcher then edit it?
[09:11] <atomx> hedge, yeah that was my original question:  how can I edit a bootable iso? :)  does ultimatebootcd do that?  I thought it was just another iso
[09:11] <hedge> Flannel, will it allow him to run a dos flash util??
[09:11] <Flannel> hedge: wha?
[09:11] <Agent_bob> WarOfAttrition what exactly did you do to mess it up ?
[09:11] <vinboy> hi
[09:11] <WarOfAttrition> I opened sudoers with a texteditor and saved it
[09:12] <Flannel> WarOfAttrition: why are you running around as root then?
[09:12] <vinboy> I removed the "errors=remount-ro" from my fstab after formatting / with reiserfs, is tat correct way to do it?
[09:12] <vinboy> otherwise my linux won't boot
[09:12] <WarOfAttrition> I'm not running around as root, I used sudo to edit it
[09:12] <atomx> hedge, I think I answered my own question:  http://www.nenie.org/misc/flashbootcd.html
[09:12] <Flannel> heh, alright.  just sounded much less intentional
[09:13] <Flannel> WarOfAttrition: what you shouldve done is not closed gedit, and you couldve just put the stuff back, from a sudoers off the internet
[09:13] <hedge> atomx, in windows I know you can do it with winimage. Simple lil pgm that you can insert into an iso image
[09:13] <Agent_bob> WarOfAttrition you could set a root passwd while in single user mode then you can fix from normal boot if needed.    to re-lock the passwd when you have it fixed   do   sudo passwd -l
[09:13] <brownie17> to copy an entire folder and it's contents into another folder?
[09:13] <kingspawn> you should never edit sudoers with something other than visudo
[09:13] <kingspawn> (ers)
[09:13] <PwcrLinux> Agent_bob: Hmm should I create a launcher then edit it?
[09:13] <WarOfAttrition> yea I was in a rush, first time changing sudoers
[09:13] <brownie17> what command should i use to copy an entire folder and it's contents into another folder?
[09:13] <WarOfAttrition> sounds complicated, I think it's screwed for good
[09:13] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: no, you should create a file, then a launcher that points to that file
[09:14] <atomx> hedge, yah that page shows how to mount a floppy image as a fs and then burn it as a bootable cd (!) and links to dos 6.22 images
[09:14] <kingspawn> WarOfAttrition: very little is screwed for good
[09:14] <WarOfAttrition> yea but as far as me fixing it
[09:14] <hedge> cool
[09:14] <WarOfAttrition> It will still work, now nothing will get installed
[09:14] <brownie17> who knows why i got this? "cp: omitting directory `./Mighty Boosh 1 + 2'"
[09:14] <femi> hello, pls am fed up of configuring Xine 0.99.3 to play my mp3 files, who can help?
[09:14] <Agent_bob> PwcrLinux it's better to use a script you can set the permission on it more securely,  but there are other ways.  this is linux  where there is my way your way and a better way.....
[09:15] <kingspawn> WarOfAttrition: rescue mode should be in your grub boot menu
[09:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> brownie17: Did you use cp -r ?
[09:15] <kingspawn> brownie17: cp doesnt copy directories by default
[09:15] <WarOfAttrition> yea but it would be the first time using it, I will have to guess everything, you know how it is
[09:15] <PwcrLinux> Agent: oh okay.. alright..
[09:15] <brownie17> kingspawn, if i put -r, will it work?
[09:15] <kingspawn> brownie17: yes
[09:16] <femi> hey i need to configure
[09:16] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: Okay give me step by step in my prvmsg..
[09:16] <femi> Xine  to play my mp3 files
[09:16] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: I told you the whole script just up there. It is two (2) lines.
[09:17] <beta_m> hi, i'm really needing some help with networking here. I did mannage to make the other comp to see this one, and this one to use DHCP to hand out IP addresses, now how do i specify the "Workgroup", allow other computers to access internet through this one, and of course access DNS servers
[09:17] <WarOfAttrition> will rescue mode run as root?
[09:17] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: the buffer limit in the scroll back
[09:17] <kingspawn> WarOfAttrition: yessir
[09:17] <Agent_bob> kingspawn could just be one line.....   but that doesn't realy matter.
[09:17] <kingspawn> Agent_bob: well..
[09:17] <WarOfAttrition> ok, so once I'm in there, should I edit sudoers with visudo?
[09:17] <Agent_bob> yep
[09:18] <WarOfAttrition> and that's that?
[09:18] <femi> hey i'm getting frustrated using linux gfat a lot of problem, is there any step by step  tutorial or guide for ubuntu breez bagder?
[09:18] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: line 1) #!/bin/bash   line 2) your command   save   chmod +x savedfile   create launcher  (though I dont believe this will work without using a terminal to launch the script, ie aterm -e scriptname)
[09:18] <WarOfAttrition> I mean I just save it on there, and nothing more?
[09:18] <PORDO> Version 0.1.1-6+2.6.12-10.30 of realtime-lsm-module-2.6.12-10-686-smp already installed, skipping.
[09:18] <Agent_bob> WarOfAttrition mmm i sujest setting a root passwd temporarly  incase you need more help
[09:18] <PORDO> anyone?
[09:19] <WarOfAttrition> I'm not feeling brave, I've never done that
[09:19] <Agent_bob> WarOfAttrition yes.  that's the jest of it.
[09:19] <kingspawn> WarOfAttrition: best do it now, till you have yourself safe at harbor again
[09:19] <Thinjon100> Hello... trying to boot into my Dapper Drake installation... can't figure out, how can I temporarily boot into the (already installed) installation so that I can run grub-install?  Or will running grub-install form the LiveCD configure it properly for my kernel?
[09:20] <Hobbsee> !tell Thinjon100 about grub
[09:20] <atomx> hedge, thanks I'm off to try this...
[09:20] <Kakason> How do I change the file owner of a folder + the folders contents? Also how do chmod to a folder and it affects the folders contents as well. ^_^
[09:20] <WarOfAttrition> setting a root password. does that mean logging in named 'root' ?
[09:20] <kingspawn> WarOfAttrition: bingo
[09:20] <ic56> kingspawn: scripts don't need to be run from a terminal.
[09:20] <WarOfAttrition> yes that's what I thought, but how do I do it?
[09:20] <Agent_bob> kingspawn> PwcrLinux   for the chmod  may i sujest 700  rather than +r   it is a sinsitive document.  you don't want it world readable.
[09:21] <kingspawn> ic56: they automatically launch a terminal so he can actually USE his ssh-session for something?
[09:21] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: Or I might to dl other program with auto logon, such as Putty or something like that?
[09:21] <kingspawn> Agent_bob: yeah, agreed
[09:21] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: listen to Agent_bob on the permissions
[09:22] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: I dont really know, never used one other than on windows
[09:22] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: okay..
[09:22] <NoobSauce> anyone know how to install nvidia drivers on amd64?
[09:22] <NoobSauce> I'm a total linux noob
[09:23] <cafuego> NoobSauce: Install the Ubuntu package.
[09:23] <Agent_bob> ic56 did you see my pm eariler ?
[09:23] <cafuego> 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'
[09:23] <PwcrLinux> Agent_bob: alright.. can i talk in your prvmsg?
[09:23] <NoobSauce> yeah, I tried that and it didn't work
[09:23] <cafuego> You also want 'linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'
[09:23] <Agent_bob> PwcrLinux you may
[09:23] <WarOfAttrition> well I'm going to go try it, thanks for your help
[09:24] <NoobSauce> it didn't give any errors, but when I added the nvidia line to my xorg.conf, x wouldn't start
[09:24] <cafuego> Yes, you're psobably missing the kernel driver
[09:24] <NoobSauce> which one?
[09:24] <cafuego> 'linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'
[09:25] <havien> cafuego, what will that do?
[09:25] <Agent_bob> ic56  hmmm ok
[09:25] <NoobSauce> Emess: Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-19-amd64-generic has no installation candidate
[09:25] <NoobSauce> < - is it possible I don't have the right sources?
[09:25] <cafuego> NoobSauce: You need to add the 'restricted' repository.
[09:25] <NoobSauce> btw, I'm running dapper (kubuntu)
[09:26] <cafuego> NoobSauce: Yes, slightly outdated (The latest kenrel is 2.6.15-21-amd64-k8)
[09:26] <ic56> query Agent_bob
[09:26] <Emess> i have ABSOLUTELY no idea about that :S
[09:27] <NoobSauce> cafuego: outdated? how do I go backwards from my kernel then?
[09:27] <Agent_bob> ic56 shoot
[09:27] <ic56> Dude, I don't think you can get this to be 100%.  After all, a window manager doesn't have to be registered anywhere nor, for that matter, is a wm required to run X.
[09:28] <ic56> One can use X without a wm.
[09:28] <thatGuy_> lol, my kernel keeps updating and i need to take the old ones out of the bootloader
[09:28] <havien> cafuego, how can you edit the sources.list without being under root?
[09:28] <doms> how do i check my md5
[09:28] <doms> in terminal
[09:28] <Agent_bob> ic56 yeah i know the difficulties.
[09:28] <NoobSauce> havien, 'sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list' right?
[09:29] <NoobSauce> or does that count as being root
[09:29] <doms> in terminal
[09:29] <thatGuy_> yeah, that's about the same as root
[09:29] <doms> how do i check my md5
[09:29] <havien> hmm
[09:29] <k31th> Anyone use Moodle ?
[09:29] <havien> i forgot about the sudo command did mine as su then pico
[09:29] <Agent_bob> ic56 no matter.  everyone in there knows i blab a lot  :)
[09:30] <thatGuy_> what's the ubuntulooks engine?
[09:30] <thatGuy_> i have a theme that says its meant to run on top of it
[09:31] <Hexidigital> can someone see if they can access my webserver?
[09:31] <christo> I'm thinking of using ubuntu on my next laptop, but I find it weird that there is no root user and you have to type sudo all the time to run commands as root - is there a way around that?
[09:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> christo: sudo -i will give you a root shell
[09:31] <NoobSauce> you can make a root user I think
[09:31] <NoobSauce> sudo passwd root
[09:31] <Kakason> christo: sudo -s -H
[09:31] <NoobSauce> then set a password and you should be able to log in
[09:31] <Kakason> then you'll be running as root
[09:32] <ic56> !whysudo
[09:32] <thatGuy_> christo, you can make a user root also
[09:32] <thatGuy_> so that tey have all the privedges
[09:32] <thatGuy_> and you can also su root also
[09:32] <PORDO>  your a piece of shit
[09:33] <PORDO> oops..sorry.
[09:33] <PORDO> wrong channel
[09:33] <PORDO>  --> NOTE: Running jack as root to enable realtime capabilities isn't
[09:33] <PORDO>  --> needed any longer. As of kernel-2.6.12 and pam > 0.80-2 you can
[09:33] <PORDO>  --> achieve the rights to run real-time on a per group basis, which is
[09:33] <PORDO>  --> controlled by /etc/security/limits.conf
[09:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doms: openssl dgst -md5 /path/file
[09:33] <NoobSauce> anyone know a good howto for installing nvidia drivers? seems like I followed the top 10 hits from google already
[09:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !flood
[09:33] <ubotu> I heard flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[09:33] <NoobSauce> it's been 3 days non-stop and no success :(
[09:33] <Hexidigital> !tell noobsauce about nvidia
[09:33] <MikeMm> is in Xorg 7.0 Dualheat with ATI broken ?
[09:33] <havien> NoobSauce, have you looked at the nvidia pages?
[09:34] <Kakason> in Wine is it better to run native dlls?
[09:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> NoobSauce: install 'nvidia-glx' and then run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and select 'nvidia' instead of 'nv' as your driver.
[09:34] <NoobSauce> havien: I've read the README if that's what you mean
[09:34] <NoobSauce> also the troubleshooting section, and my problem wasn't listed
[09:35] <havien> NoobSauce,  did you try the drivers from their site?
[09:35] <NoobSauce> it keeps saying that the linux tree or something isn't there, but I can't find a package for it
[09:35] <Hexidigital> can someone see if they can access my webserver?  http://hexidigital.shacknet.nu
[09:35] <NoobSauce> havienyeah, I tried those too
[09:35] <Hexidigital> i dont know if my isp blocks port 80
[09:35] <NoobSauce> havien brb, I'll try your suggested commands
[09:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> NoobSauce: Don't use the nvidia.com isntaller, it often breaks stuff.  Unless your card is really new, the 'nvidia-glx' package in teh repository should work.
[09:36] <bliss1_> DBO: man your full time!
[09:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gah
[09:36] <havien> Hexidigital,  its working
[09:36] <havien> i see the default page
[09:36] <NoobSauce> pumpernickle my card is an nvidia 6200 w/ 256 mb ram... is that too new?
[09:36] <Hexidigital> havien, thank you
[09:36] <Hexidigital> (and thank my isp for not blocking 80 :)  )
[09:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> NoobSauce: Nope, that's fine.
[09:37] <Agent_bob> PuMpErNiCkLe i haven't abdocated the throne yet.
[09:37] <bliss1_> nickrud: felling better?
[09:37] <dion33> is usplash automatically setup when you do a kernel re-compile?
[09:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Agent_bob: abdocated :)
[09:37] <WarOfAttrition> thanks guys, the recovery mode worked. there was no need to create root passw
[09:37] <Hexidigital> time for bed... goodnite guys
[09:38] <toresbe> So yeah, I'm actually going to punch a FORTRAN program on punch cards and feed it to the old mainframe, and get my output on punch cards! :)
[09:38] <Agent_bob> :)    see
[09:38] <toresbe> whoops, wrong channel, sorry
[09:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> toresbe: Sounds fun. :o
[09:38] <toresbe> PuMpErNiCkLe: yeah
[09:38] <toresbe> I can't wait.
[09:39] <toresbe> It's a big honkin' noisy CDC Cyber 180
[09:39] <toresbe> A direct predecessor of the Cray-1
[09:39] <Kakason> I've been wondering, how do I update to Dapper on Breezy?
[09:39] <bliss1_> cmplied a kernel from source finished the kernel moudule part, now need perl modules to be instaaled is this just a maater of dpkg -i at prompt of new kernel directory?
[09:39] <bliss1_> complied
[09:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> toresbe: oy, that's going way back
[09:40] <toresbe> PuMpErNiCkLe: yup. I actually believe it was made a bit *after* the Cray-1 though
[09:40] <toresbe> Control Data kept making mainframes after Cray left their company to start for himself
[09:41] <iank> Hey folks.  Installed most anything I could find that looks like a library, and has something to do with mesa, and yet I still get this when compiling some opengl stuffs:
[09:41] <iank> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lMesaGL
[09:41] <iank> Suggestions?
[09:42] <Kakason> Dudes, will there be any problems if I upgrade from breezy to dapper? Has anyone here tried it?
[09:42] <havien> Kakason, have you figured out how to do it?
[09:42] <iank> Kakason: heh.  Yes, lots of folks have tried it =D.  I've seen mixed results, personally... but in most cases, it's been fine.
[09:43] <Kakason> havien: yeah, I just did a little research
[09:43] <Kakason> iank: oo... I just ran into a link where it goes X server doesn't start properly.
[09:45] <Kakason> How do I change the default fonts that ubuntu uses, like in the menus.
[09:45] <Kakason> and taskbar.
[09:45] <havien> Kakason, gnome or kde?
[09:46] <Kakason> Gnome.
[09:46] <Ohzie> Has anybody here used compiz yet?
[09:47] <ic56> iank: what about libglu1-mesa ? is that package installed?  I don't actually know that it's the right one but, from the output of apt-cache, it seems relevant.
[09:47] <NoobSauce> ok, well that didn't work
[09:47] <iank> ic56: ii  libglu1-mesa                                       6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1                              The OpenGL utility library (GLU)
[09:47] <iank> ic56: yep
[09:48] <havien> Kakason, its the font preference tool
[09:49] <Kakason> Nope, tried that.
[09:49] <havien> hmm
[09:50] <iank> Well hey
[09:50] <iank> It was a symlink
[09:50] <iank> yay
[09:50] <iank> Thanks for trying though, I appreciate it =)
[09:50] <ic56> iank: symlink to libglu ?
[09:51] <Kakason> How do I check which Ubuntu version I got?
[09:51] <thoreauputic> Kakason: lsb_release -a
[09:51] <Agent_bob> Kakason uname -a
[09:51] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: that's for kernel version :)
[09:51] <Agent_bob> compare the kernel version with the releases...
[09:51] <Kakason> oo thanks
[09:52] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic lsb-release is not installed here
[09:52] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: sure, you can do that :)
[09:52] <havien> Kakason, not a clue on changeing them
[09:52] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: erm - yes it is
[09:52] <havien> everything i look at doesn't change fonts
[09:52] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic i think not.
[09:52] <Kakason> yeah, I know
[09:53] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: are you running a standard Ubuntu install ?
[09:53] <Kakason> Because like the font is too big, I like it smaller
[09:53] <farous> can i make a symbplic link on my pc to a file on another pc on my lan?
[09:53] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic hardly.
[09:53] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: OK try cat /etc/issue
[09:53] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic why ?    i edited that file upon install
[09:54] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: heh - waht *are* you running?
[09:54] <Kakason> To update from Breezy to Dapper is : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade right...?
[09:54] <Agent_bob> hoary upgraded to dapper in one jump.
[09:54] <havien> Kakason, increase resolution?
[09:54] <Kakason> havien: I'm running 1024x768
[09:54] <havien> hmm
[09:54] <havien> 1280x1024?
[09:54] <havien> i dunno
[09:54] <Kakason> lol
[09:55] <WarOfAttrition> is it safe to remove old kernels from the grub menu.lst
[09:55] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: *shrug* I just gave the standard answers that work for 99.9% of users ;)
[09:55] <Agent_bob> server-install of hoary with ubuntu-base and lsb-release removed  upgraded to dapper, then modifyed greatly.
[09:56] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: OK - understood :)
[09:56] <zielony> how can I change opengl driver ? I currently use mesa (dont know why), and I want to use nvidia
[09:56] <thoreauputic> hmm
[09:57] <zielony> http://pastebin.com/686525
[09:57] <ic56> Kakason: I did change the fonts in my Ubuntu menus.  I did from the GUI
[09:57] <ic56>  I think it was somewhere under system> ...> screen
[09:58] <Kakason> ic56: oo did you change your screen resolution?
[09:58] <NoobSauce> hmmm... sudo nvidia-glx-config enable doesn't work
[09:58] <NoobSauce> says command not found...
[09:59] <ic56> Kakason: did not change the screen resolution.  It stayed the same (i.e. the max supported)
[09:59] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: you like to run as root while online?
[09:59] <kingspawn> WarOfAttrition: once you are sure that you have other working kernels, you can remove what you'd like
[09:59] <kingspawn> WarOfAttrition: but you should leave the rescue mode, and perhaps one other working kernel than your current one
[09:59] <Kakason> ic56: ok, The only font that I manage to change was the Desktop, and it looks better, way better then the big ones
[10:00] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic i never do
[10:00] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic don't you know that's a security hazard
[10:00] <ic56> Kakason: However, after I got the font as small as possible, the menu tab still stayed wide because the icons, naturally, stayed the same size.
[10:01] <WarOfAttrition> I have 2 sets of kernels with regular and recovery mode each, I would like to remove them. also is it ok to remove the old kernel files in /boot
[10:01] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: OK - just your whois info says you are root, and yes of course I know that but thanks for the patronising info ;-)
[10:01] <Kakason> ic56: o, yeah, I just like wanted the font smaller because I think it's using like size 12
[10:02] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic :)     but it gives the ops something to say to me.....
[10:03] <kingspawn> WarOfAttrition: yeah, that should be okay
[10:03] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: right, it's a not-so-subtle troll, agreed ;)
[10:03] <ic56> WarOfAttrition: I think it's ok to remove the old kernels, though you should also edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove references to them.  Perhaps you can remove them more cleanly through package management?
[10:04] <zielony> Somebody help me  ; ) http://pastebin.com/686525 how an I change it to nvidia ?
[10:05] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic no.    very subtile.   only folks that check my ip ever notice that....
[10:05] <ic56> WarOfAttrition: for a better stab at what else might be affected, search for references in config files to the  filenames you are about to remove. Like so: find /etc -type f |xargs grep <filename>
[10:05] <Agent_bob> :)
[10:05] <WarOfAttrition> yea I was editing menu.lst that's where they came to attention
[10:06] <NoobSauce> seems wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia says to install both nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings, but when I try installing one, it uninstalls the other
[10:08] <NoobSauce> why do people always say to comment out the line load "dri" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[10:09] <NoobSauce> what does it do?
[10:12] <antinobody> I'm not sure how much help you can give me, but gaim is having trouble connecting (in this case to irc...obviously I'm using a second computer for this)
[10:12] <WarOfAttrition> I'm on a small hard disk that's why I like to delete old files, I also emptied the apt cache which was over 1GB
[10:13] <Agent_bob> WarOfAttrition deborphan  and localpurge
[10:13] <kIOsk> anyone here could help setting up dvddecrypter
[10:13] <Agent_bob> localepurge - Automagically remove unnecessary locale data
[10:13] <doms> how do i install apache in my dapper drake and how can i locate the path on it...
[10:13] <antinobody> I'm using dapper beta amd64
[10:13] <antinobody> you being anybody
[10:13] <antinobody> as in no si se peude ayudarme, pero... for those that speak spanish
[10:13] <WarOfAttrition> good to know thank you
[10:13] <kIOsk> i treid runnign it using crossover office but it wont find the dvd drive
[10:14] <doms> how do i install apache in my dapper drake and how can i locate the path on it...
[10:14] <Agent_bob> deborphan - Find orphaned libraries
[10:14] <ic56> antinobody: could it be a network problem?  Is the computer reachable when freenode tries to verify it isn't a spammer?
[10:15] <htinn> kIOsk, you need to run winecfg and set the Type to "CD-ROM" in the Drives/Show Advanced options
[10:15] <NoobSauce> I tried installing my kernel headers before installing the nvidia packages, and it seems that I'm running 2.6.15-19, but the only headers available are for 2.6.15-21
[10:15] <kIOsk> i run corssoveroffice its some kind of frontend for wine
[10:15] <WarOfAttrition> localpurge is not in the repositories though
[10:15] <kIOsk> but i didnt install wine
[10:15] <htinn> kIOsk, and don't forget to insert a disc first
[10:15] <WarOfAttrition> n/m it's localepurge
[10:15] <NoobSauce> anyone know how to either upgrade the kernel I'm running or go backwards with the headers?
[10:16] <kIOsk> i think i have to install wine then :-/
[10:16] <Agent_bob> WarOfAttrition debfoster is another good one.
[10:16] <htinn> kIOsk, oops I don't cxoffice how works
[10:16] <htinn> *don't know
[10:16] <Agent_bob> WarOfAttrition yes i typoed the first time....
[10:16] <kIOsk> ok thx
[10:16] <htinn> no prob
[10:17] <doms> how do i install apache in my dapper drake and how can i locate the path on it...
[10:17] <antinobody> ic56:  I'm not exactly sure, is there a way to check that?
[10:18] <Agent_bob> doms use the package manager,  and the path is /var/www  or something like that.
[10:18] <matthew_w> What does this mean: This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system
[10:18] <matthew_w> that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification.
[10:18] <animato> where can i see the release schudele for dapper?
[10:18] <doms> why is it that my php seems not working in firefox browser after i adding a <?ph echo("helloworld"); ?>
[10:18] <antinobody> ic56:  I have had some internet problems, specifically, but only on ubuntu, and some other linux-distros
[10:18] <antinobody> ic56:  networking, on the other hand, works fine
[10:18] <doms> why is it that my php seems not working in firefox browser after i adding a <?ph echo("helloworld"); ?> in my text editor
[10:19] <NoobSauce> how do I get linux headers for 2.6.15-19? only -21 are available
[10:20] <NoobSauce> anyone?
[10:23] <havien> NoobSauce, have you checked cvs?
[10:23] <NoobSauce> havien what's cvs?
[10:24] <havien> NoobSauce, what version?
[10:24] <havien> 5.10 or 6?
[10:24] <NoobSauce> of cvs?
[10:24] <NoobSauce> I'm running 6.06
[10:25] <NoobSauce> ubuntu
[10:25] <NoobSauce> uname -r output is 2.6.15-19-amd64-generic
[10:25] <NoobSauce> which I guess is my kernel version
[10:26] <NoobSauce> is there some kind of sources that I could add to my sources.list file to access previous versions of linux-headers?
[10:26] <KenSentMe> is there anyone useing Ekiga voip with the dutch provider xs4all?
[10:26] <ic56> NoobSauce: CVS = Concurrent Versions System.  It's a program for managing modifications to files and making releases.
[10:26] <Ohzie> Has anybody here used compiz?
[10:26] <NoobSauce> ohzie, that's why I'm trying to get the nvidia drivers up and running :)
[10:27] <NoobSauce> I've blown off a week so far trying to get this to work (with 5 fresh re-installs due to hosed X-servers), but if I can get it to work, it will all be worth it :)
[10:27] <havien> ic56 does ubuntu have cvs access for sources?
[10:27] <redas23> witam czy jest kto z polski
[10:29] <NoobSauce> either that or how can I upgrade my kernel to the most recent version? apt-get upgrade brings me to -19
[10:29] <NoobSauce> not -21, which is the kernel header version
[10:30] <co_cool> haiiiiiiii
[10:30] <co_cool> ada yang tw ma ri_vi
[10:32] <ic56> NoobSauce: I think you're SOL.  I don't think there's an easy way for you to get older versions of files within a release -- once you let the update manager update you, there's no going back.
[10:32] <NoobSauce> sigh :(
[10:32] <lifo> I have a basic question. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[10:32] <lifo> I'm installing ubuntu on AMD 64 bit box
[10:32] <kingspawn> lifo: just ask
[10:32] <lifo> it's taking looong to retrieve the pakcages
[10:32] <NoobSauce> it's doing that for me too
[10:33] <lifo> Right now it's "Retrieving libwrap0"
[10:33] <lifo> how long it's likely to take :( ?
[10:33] <NoobSauce> I'm getting like a 24K/s connection, but I get like a 500K/s to just about everywhere else
[10:33] <KenSentMe> how do i attach a file to a bug report in launchpad?
[10:33] <kingspawn> Maybe the servers are freaking out right now?
[10:33] <chip42> lifo: this is reading the packages from the cd?
[10:33] <ic56> NoobSauce: If it's really important, and you're technically expert, you could start rummaging through the mirrors for individual files and install them manually.  You'd have to know which files/packages though and if you miss one, you'll have an inconsistent system and even more headaches.
[10:34] <lifo> I thought it'd find all the packages from the CD...didnt know it'd need to connect to net and retrieve
[10:34] <lifo> Any idea how long tht might take ?
[10:34] <Agent_bob> howto get ssh to read a passwd from a file or command line without prompting you ?
[10:34] <lifo> Progress bar is stuck to 6% since begginging
[10:34] <Agent_bob> can that be done ?
[10:34] <NoobSauce> ic56, is there any way to get this working from a clean install? I'm not opposed to reloading my box from scratch (I've already done it a whole bunch of times)
[10:34] <chip42> lifo: i had similar problems reading the packages off the cd during the install. i ended up having to reburn it at the slowest speed..
[10:34] <kingspawn> Agent_bob: look into key rings
[10:35] <lifo> I burned at 10x..it's RW
[10:35] <NoobSauce> lifo, I had that problem before too, it gets stuck at 6%. are you sure the CD is ok?
[10:35] <lifo> yeah
[10:35] <lifo> CD is fine..
[10:35] <chip42> lifo: try this. ctrl+alt+f1 after it starts to hang... if the media is no good there will be a pile of error messages
[10:35] <lifo> I verified MD5 as well
[10:35] <Agent_bob> kingspawn anything specific ?
[10:36] <jeri> haiiiiiiiii
[10:36] <Kakason> Is XFree the same as the one Ubuntu has?
[10:36] <lifo> so, ubuntu always fetches packages from internet ?
[10:36] <lifo> Or it's just with me
[10:36] <Agent_bob> Kakason no.
[10:36] <Kakason> o thanks
[10:36] <NoobSauce> what's the difference between k8 and generic amd64?
[10:36] <dion33> how do you make a initrd file?
[10:37] <Agent_bob> xorg forked from xfree86 about 3.5 years ago iirc
[10:37] <NoobSauce> I have a AMD 64 X2 3800+, should I be using k8?
[10:37] <Kakason> o ok
[10:37] <Kakason> So which one is better?
[10:37] <kingspawn> Agent_bob: sorry, keychains
[10:37] <lifo> Any inputs..?
[10:37] <kingspawn> Agent_bob: quick google will instruct
[10:38] <Agent_bob> dion33 mkinitrd    or   mkinitramfs      man the command for the specifics
[10:38] <chip42> lifo: answer is no. it doesn't need a network connection
[10:39] <lifo> Then why is it taking so long for me :-s ?
[10:39] <Agent_bob> kingspawn probably for collage kids that were taught google....  all i ever get from google is a headache
[10:39] <NoobSauce> btw ic56 / havien, thanks for helping me. Without outside help, there's no way I could figure this out on my own
[10:39] <lifo> is it because i didnt skip dhcp settings ?
[10:39] <NoobSauce> I've already wasted like 60 hours on this :(
[10:39] <havien> np hope it works for you NoobSauce
[10:39] <chip42> lifo: you assume your cd is fine. i would think twice about that.
[10:39] <lifo> hmmm...ok
[10:40] <ic56> Agent_bob: ssh provides no facility for non-interactive password but there are other options: 1) use a public key setup to authenticate instead of using a password.  2) fool ssh into querying a pty (pseudo-tty) and echo the password into that pty.  I'm not sure how to do the latter. There's a program (pty?) written specifically for hacks like that.  You could also use expect(1) for that.
[10:40] <Agent_bob> dion33 if its dapper you need ramfs rather than rd
[10:40] <cf> i have a question about partitioning prior to ubuntu installation
[10:40] <lifo> So, if my CD is corrupt, it'll fetch packages from internet ?
[10:40] <cafuego> NoobSauce: Yes, if you're on the amd64 system, use k8. (It's marginally more optimised)
[10:40] <lifo> Also, nothing happens if I press ctr+alt+F1
[10:41] <NoobSauce> lifo, try holding it down
[10:41] <cafuego> NoobSauce: I presonally run mine on a with -k7 (32 bit)
[10:41] <chip42> lifo: is that what it is doing? connecting to the internet? or is it just hanging while trying to retrieve packages off the cd.
[10:41] <Terminus> Agent_bob: for option number 1 from ic56, the keychain package might help you.
[10:41] <Agent_bob> ic56 mmmk  thanks.
[10:41] <NoobSauce> is there really much difference between the two? because if it guarantees better compatibility, I could just go back to 32-bit
[10:41] <lifo> Nop..it's connecting to internet it seems
[10:41] <NoobSauce> dunno what the performance different is
[10:41] <holycow> !easybuntu
[10:41] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, holycow
[10:41] <cafuego> NoobSauce: It depends on what you intend to sue the machine for.
[10:41] <lifo> coz it's taking like 3-4 mins to retrieve each package
[10:41] <holycow> !easyubuntu
[10:41] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[10:42] <skynet> Lifo   there are eight geTTY's, my install errors are usually on number 8
[10:42] <cafuego> NoobSauce: If you need or want java and flash browser plugins, go 32bit.
[10:42] <lifo> ok..u guys got it right it seems...
[10:42] <NoobSauce> cafuego yeah, then I gotta go 32-bit... I need Java unfortunately
[10:42] <skynet> ctrl+alt+F8, etc.
[10:42] <lifo> number 3 or 4 shows me CD errors
[10:42] <lifo> :-s
[10:42] <cafuego> NoobSauce: There's not much difference in performance if you don't do much video processing or compiling.
[10:42] <lifo> thanks for the help guys
[10:42] <lifo> will need to reburn :(
[10:43] <chip42> lifo: burn it real slow. hope it works out
[10:43] <cafuego> NoobSauce: there *is* java, but not a java plugin for 64bit.
[10:43] <lifo> yeah..will do that..
[10:43] <lifo> thx
[10:43] <lifo> c ya
[10:43] <cf> can you have a bootable flag on two partitions? for instance, should i set both my windows and my linux partitions bootable flags to "yes"?
[10:43] <NoobSauce> cafuego thanks for telling me that, if I finally got nvidia drivers to install, and then found that out after the fact, I would be really upset
[10:43] <lifo> thx chip42 skynet
[10:43] <cafuego> NoobSauce: <heh>
[10:43] <thatGuy_> uh o
[10:43] <NoobSauce> cafuego, what's teh difference between java and java plugin? you mean for firefox and stuff?
[10:43] <thatGuy_> what about java ?
[10:44] <cafuego> NoobSauce: Yes. java as in 'command line' and 'java applications in X' works fine. Applets in the browser do not.
[10:44] <havien> cafuego, install... the java webstart
[10:44] <NoobSauce> oh, who cares about that then :P I have to use matlab which is built on java, other than that, who cares about java :P
[10:44] <bliss1_> hello
[10:45] <cafuego> NoobSauce: Then you can just fetch the amd64 jre or jdk from sun, which works fine.
[10:45] <bliss1_> ompaul; morning
[10:45] <thatGuy_> caf, what about this?
[10:45] <thatGuy_> caf. what about this?
[10:45] <ompaul> bliss1_, morning
[10:45] <thatGuy_> cafuego: what about this?
[10:45] <thatGuy_> lol,
[10:45] <thatGuy_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD64
[10:45] <NoobSauce> so any luck on finding previous versions of linux headers?
[10:46] <thatGuy_> i was going to try that
[10:46] <NoobSauce> it seems like this would be really simple...
[10:46] <NoobSauce> *should
[10:46] <cafuego> NoobSauce: Whatcha need linux headers for?
[10:46] <dion33> it'd be nice if make-kpkg would automatically generate a initrd file :|
[10:46] <thatGuy_> cafuego: its on the unbuntu site and says 'plugin for amd64' so i figured it'd work
[10:46] <NoobSauce> cafuego, for getting the nvidia drivers to work
[10:47] <NoobSauce> I've tried like 10 howtos from start to finish, and the current one I'm on has problems with the headers
[10:47] <NoobSauce> I'm hoping once I fix it, it will finally work
[10:47] <cafuego> NoobSauce: You don't need headers for those, or do any compilation. They are completely prepackaged.
[10:47] <holycow> lol
[10:47] <NoobSauce> cafuego, none of those have worked though
[10:47] <bliss1_> want to clean-up breeze badger without a reinstall any suggestions
[10:47] <NoobSauce> they all have some kind of problem
[10:48] <Agent_bob> hmmm now if i could get a plip or slip working.
[10:48] <thatGuy_> hmm, i get the feelings i'm being ignored on this channel
[10:49] <Agent_bob> Localhost server, Please login with your user name and password.
[10:49] <Agent_bob> hmm that's odd.
[10:49] <NoobSauce> who me?
[10:50] <NoobSauce> I have no username/password yet
[10:50] <bliss1_> do not shout all at once
[10:50] <NoobSauce> bliss1_ why not just reinstall?
[10:50] <NoobSauce> do you have anything critical on there?
[10:51] <NoobSauce> sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx < - this is already installed yet if I edit the config file to include nvidia instead of nv, it breaks
[10:51] <thatGuy_> anyone know where/how to change the gtk default colors?
[10:51] <bliss1_> NoobSauce; why indeed,well not sure if i could set up postfix again without having a break-down
[10:51] <NoobSauce> any suggestions on that? the howto says it should work...
[10:52] <NoobSauce> bliss1_ what did you break?
[10:53] <bliss1_> NoobSauce: well my brain for start
[10:53] <NoobSauce> I can relate to that
[10:53] <bliss1_> ompual: you must be loving this
[10:53] <Kakason> Yous guys know DPI, If I change it, will there be any problems?
[10:53] <bliss1_> NoobSauce funny you should say that nor can I
[10:54] <NoobSauce> you're having the same nvidia install problem?
[10:54] <NoobSauce> finally some companionship in my agony!
[10:55] <bliss1_> NoobSauce: or you can relate good glad were not all no relpy merchachts who sit on the fence and tell others to behave
[10:55] <kingspawn> Kakason: not if you dont go crazy out of bounds
[10:56] <Kakason> kingspawn: what is the default? I just changed it and I forgot.
[10:57] <kingspawn> Kakason: no idea
[10:57] <bliss1_> want to clean-up breeze badger without a reinstall any suggestions
[10:58] <Kakason> lol Ok.
[10:59] <bliss1_> NoobSauce: who are things, just chill man
[10:59] <bliss1_> how
[11:00] <NoobSauce> after spending like 60 hours on getting a seemingly easy task done, you begin to lose your cool
[11:00] <NoobSauce> I've already done a clean re-install like more than 5 times... and as of now, I have a barely functional linux box...
[11:00] <holycow> sounds like your doing something weird
[11:01] <Sear> www.freepicssex.com
[11:01] <holycow> let me guess your trying to get the 64 bit up and running?
[11:01] <NoobSauce> oh well, once I get it all working, I'm sure it'll all be worth it :)
[11:01] <bliss1_> NoobSauce; well at that point take some rest but alas it has taken me longer to some stuff
[11:01] <NoobSauce> well, I have it up and running ok, I guess it's not 'barely functional'.
[11:01] <NoobSauce> mainly I'm trying to get xgl working, and the first step is getting nvidia drivers up and running
[11:01] <holycow> lol
[11:02] <holycow> your fucking crazy bro
[11:02] <holycow> forget xgl first, its alpha at best.  if you want a working system you won't be trying to install that
[11:02] <holycow> especially on a 64 platform
[11:02] <bliss1_> holycow: less of the F word please
[11:02] <holycow> second what about nvidia fails? what errors do you get?
[11:02] <NoobSauce> well, regardless, I haven't gotten to the xgl part yet. At this point, I can't even get the nvidia drivers to install
[11:03] <NoobSauce> oh so many errors :) I dont' even know where to start
[11:03] <holycow> wellclearly, you've managed to complain a lot but not say a word what the error might be
[11:03] <NoobSauce> heh, that's very true
[11:04] <holycow> in which case, theres not a damned thing anyone can do for you
[11:04] <bliss1_> NoobSauce: no disrespect but you make it sound almost poetic
[11:04] <NoobSauce> ok, so if I do an apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common, it will install both packages seamlessly
[11:04] <holycow> you still didn't confirm what configuration your trying to setup to begin with
[11:04] <bliss1_> spelling not good
[11:04] <holycow> i'm only i nferring that from some vague comments you made
[11:04] <NoobSauce> I'm setting up ubuntu 6.06 with kernel 2.6.15-19-amd64-generic
[11:05] <holycow> !nvidia
[11:05] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:05] <holycow> okay now which of those did you do?
[11:05] <NoobSauce> so anyways, nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common install fine, but when I edit the xorg-conf file to include nvidia instead of nv, the xserver just won't start
[11:05] <bliss1_> ompaul: is 6.06 stable?
[11:05] <holycow> lol
[11:05] <holycow> no
[11:05] <holycow> thats idiotic
[11:05] <holycow> your here complaining about dapper?
[11:05] <holycow> jesus
[11:06] <NoobSauce> I tried both of those
[11:06] <holycow> NoobSauce, we can really only help with breezy sorry
[11:06] <ompaul> bliss1_, no
[11:06] <holycow> if you want to play around with dapper try #ubuntu+1
[11:06] <holycow> or troll the bugtracker for bugs and contribute there
[11:06] <ompaul> NoobSauce, to the the channel #ubuntu+1
[11:06] <NoobSauce> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368 doesn't work because the kernel headers aren't available in my version of the kernel. They only have -21 headers, and not -19
[11:06] <c|linux> I'm having truble with vlc  after i did som changes with xorg
[11:06] <holycow> now that we know what you are doing, i can safely tell you that you don't have the skills to even begin such a thing
[11:06] <NoobSauce> oh, ok
[11:07] <NoobSauce> sorry, I'm new to all this, didn't know I was in the wrong place :P
[11:07] <bliss1_> holycow: blasphemy as well
[11:07] <holycow> it's fine, but you need to realize you created  your own predicament
[11:07] <NoobSauce> well I guess forget xgl :(
[11:07] <holycow> its not ubuntus fault you are using tools without realizing the consequences bro
[11:07] <holycow> NoobSauce, why?
[11:08] <NoobSauce> didn't know how experimental dapper was I guess. Slashdot made it seem like it was an imminent release
[11:08] <holycow> well yes overall
[11:08] <holycow> i mean are you normal?
[11:08] <holycow> xgl barely works as it is
[11:08] <holycow> if you want xgl get the kororaa live cd and run that
[11:08] <ompaul> NoobSauce, xgl is really unstable
[11:08] <bliss1_> holycow: leave it out man
[11:08] <holycow> but don't count on xgl being anywhere near usefull at all
[11:08] <Sear> www.freepicssex.com
[11:08] <NoobSauce> I saw it in person from someone I know, and it seemed really sweet
[11:09] <NoobSauce> then again, he is 'TEH L1NUX HaX0r"
[11:09] <ompaul> NoobSauce, dapper is but xgl is how shall I put it, not the best ... and that is mega ultra polite
[11:09] <holycow> well use that to see for your self, its okay
[11:09] <Sear> www.freepicssex.com
[11:09] <holycow> can someone band this dipshit bots hostmask pls?
[11:09] <holycow> jeez
[11:09] <NoobSauce> but people have nvidia drivers working well in dapper right?
[11:09] <NoobSauce> or would I be safer going to breezy if I want the drivers to work?
[11:09] <holycow> NoobSauce, on all installs it works fine so far
[11:10] <holycow> NoobSauce, stick with breezy for now until dapper is released
[11:10] <holycow> or
[11:10] <verdee> NoobSauce: pvt :)
[11:10] <bliss1_> ompaul; you not just a pretty face!
[11:10] <c|linux> is there a easy way to remove vlc and vlc settings in ubuntu ... it's not working properly after i changed some of my graphic settings..... and figures its the easyest way to get it working again removing and reinstalling....
[11:10] <NoobSauce> what's pvt?
[11:10] <holycow> until you teach your self the skills to install and config debian based operating systems
[11:10] <verdee> uhm, i query you NoobSauce
[11:10] <NoobSauce> verdee what?
[11:11] <NoobSauce> when is dapper scheduled to be released?
[11:11] <holycow> june
[11:11] <holycow> NoobSauce, if i can offer one piece of advice when you are leaerning anything technical ....
[11:11] <NoobSauce> well I hope they can get xgl into there, that would be super cool :)
[11:11] <NoobSauce> holycow sure
[11:11] <verdee> NoobSauce: i start a private chat with you
[11:11] <bliss1_> NoobSauce; june 1st at 12.00 BST
[11:11] <holycow> 1.  first research, jumping is fine as long as  you know what to expect tho, 2. research some more, 3 research some more
[11:12] <cafuego> NoobSauce: Xgl is alraedy in dapper (and mainly working fine)
[11:12] <ompaul> !register
[11:12] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:12] <_harm> cafuego ITS NOT WORKING FINE :|
[11:12] <holycow> then make sure you have a safe backup plan, say like running a stable breezy setup, and having a spare machine to install and test on
[11:12] <cafuego> _harm: That's not what I said.
[11:12] <ompaul> cafuego, not for a one week user :-)
[11:12] <_harm> cafuego please dont give people the impression xgl is working anywear near smoothly
[11:12] <cafuego> ompaul: Well, it's not the default *and* you need to explicitly add it ;-)
[11:12] <bliss1_> holycow: or just install xen and win2003 server inside
[11:13] <holycow> the way you have tried to set up  your system defies all sanity, and your just killing your self by virtue of not 'learning to learn' so to speak ... i don't know if that makes sense
[11:13] <holycow> win2k3?
[11:13] <holycow> whats wrong with you?
[11:13] <_harm> cafuego xgl can screw up a system
[11:13] <holycow> fell off a turnip truck right?
[11:13] <NoobSauce> holycow, I've spent like 60 hours researching... I only come here as a last resort
[11:13] <holycow> lol
[11:13] <_harm> how do i fix a broken package
[11:13] <cafuego> _harm: it can? How would it do that?
[11:13] <ompaul> anyway Folks Attention please - **** news flash **** dapper is in #ubuntu+1 and xgl is in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:13] <holycow> why would anyone install win2k3? thats beyond stupid
[11:13] <_harm> noobsauce join #ubuntu-xgl
[11:13] <bliss1_> holycow: you have xen inside say debian box no X and win2003 server inside XEN its great fun
[11:14] <holycow> NoobSauce, no worries, consider me part of your research then
[11:14] <holycow> :)
[11:14] <mfb__> holycow> IT is also said that some people install it on SERVERS
[11:14] <ompaul> or to put it another way both of those subjects are .. offtopic until june when xgl will remain offtopic (I think we have to think about that :-/)
[11:14] <NoobSauce> ok, well thanks for all the help guys. I realize it's no fun dealing with n00bs :)
[11:14] <holycow> dapper is extremely non production ready, just expect things not to work, ESPECIALLY on the 64 bit version
[11:14] <_harm> ompaul main problem with xgl is ATI ;D
[11:14] <holycow> mfb__, only morons use windows, sorry :)
[11:14] <cafuego> holycow: Just like breezy ;-)
[11:14] <holycow> bliss1_, why would anyone waste their time with that?
[11:14] <ompaul> holycow, be nice
[11:15] <_harm> how do i fix a broken package??
[11:15] <NoobSauce> holycow or they need it for work like me :(
[11:15] <mfb__> agreed on thisbut why the hel do I have this stupid nickname ?
[11:15] <cafuego> _harm: that depends on in which way it is broken.
[11:15] <holycow> ompaul, :) i'm trying, but i have some dude trying to tell me running win2k3 via xen on a headless machine actually is something worthwhile doing
[11:15] <holycow> lol
[11:15] <_harm> mbf you usernrame is mbf? its already registered so ugot mbf_ whihch is also in use so i get mbf__
[11:15] <_harm> cafuego well when i do sudo apt-get install -f its wants to remove cedega
[11:16] <holycow> cafuego, indeed
[11:16] <cafuego> _harm: SO cedega depends on something that's not available.
[11:16] <ompaul> holycow, so they have source for w2k3 to alter its excuse for a kernel or are they running vmware in the xen vm?
[11:16] <cafuego> _harm: Did you initially install cedega using --force-all or --force-depends?
[11:16] <HymnToLife> oh damn
[11:16] <_harm> cafuego i dont know :P its sorta a test from demonoid
[11:16] <cafuego> ompaul: That'd be dumb
[11:17] <HymnToLife> I had another Xchat running and didn't notic it LOL
[11:17] <cafuego> _harm: You're asking me to help you fix warez?
[11:17] <holycow> ompaul, lol indeed who knows
[11:17] <ompaul> cafuego, its would be, if I was serious :)
[11:17] <cafuego> Dat is *ongelofelijk* stout
[11:17] <_harm> cafuego just testing the dang thing.. iam not gonna spend 5bucks and then figure out it doesnt work and i can compile from CVS anyway
[11:17] <bliss1_> holycow: well for you have a choice you can have linux for  MTA's that support ephemeral Diffie Hellman key agreement do not ask if you have not research it and windows server as go between
[11:18] <cafuego> ompaul: Well, w2k runs fine in vmware server ;-)
[11:18] <ompaul> cafuego, for values of fine  :)
[11:18] <holycow> heh
[11:18] <cafuego> ompaul: better than if it had direct access to the hardware, but not as fast ;-)
[11:19] <ompaul> cafuego, have to move on enjoy :-)
[11:19] <holycow> gotta reboot, dapper on the way :)
[11:20] <ic56> holycow, please try to keep your cool.  Jumping on people who say something disagreeable will turn people off.  We don't want this channel becoming like ##Linux.
[11:20] <patrick_king> im about to reinstall my servers(ftp,ssh,mysql,apache i was wondering is it possible to create a user to be able to ssh,ftp and mysql
[11:20] <bliss1_> patrick_king: hi did you write the vmware howto in ubuntu forum
[11:20] <thoreauputic> cafuego: do you know approximately what sort of download speeds are "normal" on DSL-2 ? ( /me is getting same in two weeks, with luck)
[11:20] <patrick_king> nope i didnt
[11:20] <cafuego> thoreauputic: DSL2 goes up to a maximum of 12Mbit right?
[11:21] <bliss1_> ok
[11:21] <patrick_king> wat is vmware
[11:21] <thoreauputic> cafuego: Optus are telling me 20 Mbit max
[11:21] <Plitskin> hi, how can I install SSH in Linux?
[11:21] <kingspawn> Plitskin: apt-get install openssh-server
[11:21] <cafuego> thoreauputic: That's adsl2+ (goes up to 24Mbit)
[11:21] <kingspawn> Plitskin: i guess you are after the server
[11:21] <Plitskin> kinspawn: thanks
[11:21] <delcoyote> goo dmorning all, trying to install ubuntu-lite following steps at wiki, but get an error ubuntu-lite-desktop depends: loads of files. Anyone know were i can have a look to fix this?
[11:22] <thoreauputic> Plitskin: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:22] <ic56> patrick_king: quick answer is yes. Provide more detail for a more detailed answer.
[11:22] <Plitskin> kinspawn: yes, so I can get my files from another computer
[11:22] <_harm> Where can i get xlibs? when i apt it it tell me that some packages replace it
[11:22] <cafuego> thoreauputic: friend of mine tells me he downloaded a dr who episode in 9 minutes.
[11:22] <cafuego> thoreauputic: (he's on optus)
[11:22] <thoreauputic> cafuego: wow
[11:22] <kingspawn> Plitskin: yes, then the server is your thing. you could also install an ftp server for easier access, but the ftp protocol is somewhat shaky
[11:22] <Plitskin> thorauputic: thanks too :D
[11:22] <thoreauputic> cafuego: this is like, culture shock - I'm currently on dialup ;)
[11:22] <cafuego> thoreauputic: aiyee! ;-)
[11:22] <HymnToLife> join the club thoreauputic
[11:23] <Plitskin> kinspawn: is SSH not enough if I wanted to get files?
[11:23] <Plitskin> kinspawn: hmmm... makes sense...
[11:23] <patrick_king> ic56: at the momnet i have 3 different accounts for each user to use ssh,ftp,mysql, but i cant seem to make one account tobe able to use ssh,ftp,mysql
[11:24] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: Hmm I tried -f option and it's says cannot fork into background without a command to execute..
[11:24] <thoreauputic> cafuego: the nice girl from Optus tells me I will have DSL 2 from May 12 :D I'm kind of excited about this!
[11:24] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: -f option to what?
[11:24] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: SSH
[11:24] <ic56> patrick_king: define "use" are we talking about the uid under which the servers run or the uid of the users invoking the clients?
[11:24] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Bah. I'm stuck on crappy 1.5Mbit
[11:25] <patrick_king> to be able to create, modifie and delete
[11:25] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: okay, so you're _not_ looking to start up a terminal that just immediately initiates a ssh session? you want ssh to start entirely in the background?
[11:25] <bliss1_> patrick_king this may not help but its worth a thought http://www.howtoforge.com/high_availability_loadbalanced_apache_cluster  and to your last post yes it was vmware
[11:26] <bliss1_> patrick_king: got the cd ok many thanks
[11:26] <Plitskin> what SSH client can I use with Linux?
[11:26] <kingspawn> Plitskin: ssh
[11:26] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: Yea, I want auto-passwording. it's kept asking for pwds..
[11:26] <cafuego> Plitskin: 'ssh' - it's installed.
[11:26] <_harm> Plitskin just use termina
[11:26] <thoreauputic> cafuego: Ah, even that would be heaven compared to what I have right now
[11:26] <Plitskin> kingspawn: uhmmm.. thanks
[11:26] <patrick_king> blissl_: good to hear it, have you used it yet
[11:26] <cafuego> Plitskin: Open a terminal, then you can run 'ssh'.
[11:27] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: Oh, would have been nice to know this from the start. Have you read the entry for -f in man ssh?
[11:27] <patrick_king> ic56: to be able to delete,modifie,add
[11:27] <ic56> patrick_king: You're ocnfusing me. "modify" isn't relevant to ssh sessions.  Please be more specific.
[11:27] <cafuego> PwcrLinux: If you set up key authentication (and run ssh-agent) , you won't be asked for the password more than once.
[11:28] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: yea, I read man ssh /-f or online have a ssh manual..
[11:28] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: yes, what command are you supplying ssh to run once it backgrounds?
[11:28] <delcoyote> ubuntu-lite has support?
[11:29] <cafuego> thoreauputic: 'Sear' on #ubuntu+1 would like a +b
[11:29] <thoreauputic> cafuego: BTW - thanks for the BCM firmware stuff etc. - I  look forward to getting my iBook working with Airport Extreme :)
[11:29] <efuzzyone> hello
[11:29] <_harm> How do i get xlibs?
[11:29] <delcoyote> hi efuzzyone
[11:29] <thoreauputic> cafuego: not sure if I have ops there...
[11:29] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Just a wee buglet in nm-applet last time I checked, should all be dandy when that's sorted.
[11:29] <Dr3as> _harm: i just installed the one from breezy rep.. i guess you are running dapper?
[11:29] <patrick_king> ic56:i will start from the beginning, right i need to make an account which can use my ftp,ssh,mysql
[11:29] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: 's password:
[11:30] <efuzzyone> when i am trying to install a package using apt-get, it is asking for the cdrom, but that package ain't present in the cdrom. How do I make it download that package from the internet?
[11:30] <bliss1_> patrick_king: i have just about installed xen on a sarge nonx box will put it inside xen
[11:31] <patrick_king> blissl_:ok
[11:31] <tdn> How do I add a user to a group from the console?
[11:31] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: It doesn't work that way at all, and you cannot do this without having set up a valid keychain
[11:31] <MilesPrower> Yo
[11:31] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: ahh
[11:31] <lcore> tdn man usermod
[11:33] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: or which better and easy saved pwds on other program as putty or something like that?
[11:33] <patrick_king>  right i need to make an account which can use my ftp,ssh,mysql. how do i do thiis
[11:33] <root_> heloo
[11:33] <root_> hello
[11:33] <efuzzyone> i am trying to install mysql-server-4.1
[11:33] <root_> i don't know
[11:34] <HymnToLife> !tell root_ about hello
[11:34] <root_> thanks
[11:34] <HymnToLife> efuzzyone> and ?
[11:34] <root_> add
[11:34] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: The better way would in this case be setting up a keychain.
[11:34] <root_> sorry
[11:34] <efuzzyone> HymnToLife: when i am trying to install a package using apt-get, it is asking for the cdrom, but that package ain't present in the cdrom. How do I make it download that package from the internet?
[11:34] <root_> i don't use irc
[11:34] <root_> i will out irc
[11:34] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: how?
[11:34] <root_> bye
[11:35] <Jimmey__> How can I reconfigure xorg? I always forget the command!
[11:35] <root_> bye
[11:35] <HymnToLife> efuzzyone> command line or GUI ?
[11:35] <efuzzyone> command line/GUI both
[11:35] <HymnToLife> Jimmey__> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:35] <zcat[1] > Jimmey__: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:35] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: This one is best answered by google. It's quite extensive, but there are nice guides to doing so.
[11:35] <ic56> patrick_king: do you know what people mean by server and client?  If I use this vocabulary, will we be on common ground?
[11:35] <Jimmey__> Thankyou
[11:35] <efuzzyone> HymnToLife: either will do, I have tried both
[11:35] <patrick_king> yes
[11:36] <delcoyote> anyone uses ubuntu-lite? is there support? tryed install following wiki and no success, any other shortcut or way to get a "lite" install into a cyrix 300?
[11:36] <kingspawn> efuzzyone: you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the line with the cdrom
[11:36] <HymnToLife> efuzzyone> so : 1) Run gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list 2) delete everything and copy/paste the contents of http://fkraiem.no-ip.org/stuff/sources.list instead 3) Close (don't forget to sae the changes) 4) Run sudo apt-get update
[11:36] <tdn> lcore, thanks.
[11:37] <kingspawn> efuzzyone: or do what HymnToLife says, he's got you covered
[11:37] <A[D] minS> !amsn
[11:37] <ubotu> methinks amsn is at http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[11:37] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: well, okay I will find on google.. I need get some sleep, it's been working on scripts overnight to figures it out for shh strings, it's pretty darn to fix it lol
[11:38] <ic56> patrick_king so, this dstamp user you mention, if someone logs in as that user at the console or at the X login prompt, then what happens? are they immediately in a command-line window with, say, an ftp client already running?
[11:38] <efuzzyone> kingspawn: your sugesstion worked. thanks
[11:38] <MilesPrower> Yo, trying to install mp3 codecs on my Ubuntu machine, but i'm not too successful - gstreamer0.8-mad is installed but it's a no-go
[11:38] <efuzzyone> HymnToLife: thanks for your help as well
[11:38] <kingspawn> PwcrLinux: a little sleep and a fresh start tomorrow is always good
[11:38] <PwcrLinux> kingspawn: yea lol
[11:38] <kingspawn> MilesPrower: read the !restrictedformats wiki?
[11:39] <MilesPrower> Yeap
[11:39] <kingspawn> MilesPrower: installed the other gstreamer-plugins?
[11:39] <PwcrLinux> gn all :)
[11:39] <MilesPrower> Hm
[11:39] <kingspawn> night, PwcrLinux
[11:42] <MilesPrower> Well, there are just tons of plugins for gstreamer
[11:42] <MilesPrower> Seems i'm indeed missing a few
[11:43] <MilesPrower> What is the "ugly set"?
[11:43] <kingspawn> MilesPrower: i thought !restrictedformats told you, havent read it for a while
[11:43] <No1Viking> I made a partition in cfdisk called /dev/hda4. When I now try to format it with the mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda4 command it say it cannot find anything. What's wrong?
[11:44] <zenit> Hi guys. I added another user, and made sure that he's a member of the admin-group. Judging from /etc/sudoers, shouldn't that be enough for the new user to use sudo?
[11:44] <MilesPrower> I read the french translation on Ubuntu-fr actually :p
[11:45] <kingspawn> MilesPrower: haha. well, get the logical looking gstreamers, and if it works, you might backroll and uninstall if you would like (the ones you find you dont need)
[11:45] <IPx> Does anyone know what the problem is when I get : "C compiler cannot create executables" when trying to compile something? Do I need a lib of somekind?
[11:45] <kingspawn> IPx: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:45] <kingspawn> IPx: fixes that
[11:45] <IPx> kingspawn: thanks alot
[11:46] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[11:46] <ubotu> hmm... b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[11:46] <MilesPrower> "or, if you are using Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake):" < french version wasn't up-to-date. Oh well. Thanks, i'll try ^
[11:46] <kingspawn> MilesPrower: oh, you are asking a dapper question. there is a channel for that, #ubuntu+1
[11:46] <thoreauputic> kingspawn: if you want to avoid typing it allthe time, !b-e is useful :)
[11:47] <kingspawn> thoreauputic: heh, yeah. got that build-essential in my fingers, tho ;)
[11:47] <MilesPrower> AH, thx
[11:47] <kingspawn> i forget using the bot for lots. only thing i always remember is !restrictedformats
[11:47] <thoreauputic> kingspawn: yeah, it's almost a reflex, eh ?
[11:47] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:47] <kingspawn> heh, yeah
[11:47] <patrick_king> ic56:sorry i dont know what you mean, but the user dstamp can use all the ftp,ssh, mysql accounts. i just want to make an account to use all of these, so the user doesnt have to remember 3 accounts
[11:49] <ic56> blab
[11:50] <kingspawn> and he said "blab" and all was quiet on the eastern front
[11:51] <ic56> what happend? a netsplit?  I thought maybe I had been kickd off channel or something!
[11:51] <thoreauputic> no split that I can see here...
[11:52] <kingspawn> nothing here either
[11:52] <kingspawn> ic56: you just went a little nuts
[11:52] <ic56> patrick_king are you still there?
[11:52] <patrick_king> yeh
[11:53] <ic56> patrick_king: so... you plan on answering my question or have you given up on this?
[11:55] <patrick_king> ic56:sorry i dont know what you mean, but the user dstamp can use all the ftp,ssh, mysql accounts. i just want to make an account to use all of these, so the user doesnt have to remember 3 accounts
[11:55] <antinobody> anyone have any idea why apt-get install times out unless I ping us.archive.ubuntu.com before hand?  And why that would help?
[11:56] <ic56> patrick_king: how familiar are you with Linux?
[11:57] <patrick_king> been on ubuntu for about a month now, used windows befor.  i used redhat about 3 years ago
[11:57] <anilkumar> hello everybody
[11:58] <anilkumar> i have a problem with azeureus
[11:58] <ic56> patrick_king: ok, what are the names of the 3 users you speak of?
[11:58] <patrick_king> anilkumar: i bet you using dapper
[11:59] <anilkumar> no i am using breezy
[11:59] <doms> were i can download php-5.1.2 for my ubuntu dapper drake beta
[12:00] <anilkumar> i am using breezy version
[12:00] <bliss1_> ompaul: whats the command please to open wastebasket as root
[12:00] <patrick_king> ic56: the names are dstamp for ftp, danielstamp for ssh and dstamp for mysql
[12:01] <alynx> anilkumar: what problem with azureus ?
[12:02] <anilkumar> alynx: i do not know the problem with it.
[12:02] <ic56> patrick_king: ok. are you using these from the command line, from the GUI, or both?
[12:02] <evaded> pip_: Test
[12:02] <patrick_king> both
[12:02] <evaded> pip_: Are you been here?
[12:02] <pip_> evaded, yes
[12:02] <anilkumar> alynx: i just installed ubuntu now
[12:02] <pip_> evaded, I said I have done
[12:02] <ic56> patrick_king: ok. say you are at the command line console, and you login as danielstamp.  What happens?
[12:03] <alynx> anilkumar: ok
[12:03] <hintswen> how do i set up ftp?
[12:03] <patrick_king> ic56: the user is using ftp in dreamweaver, ssh from terminal and mysql in phpmyadmin
[12:03] <anilkumar> and afterwards  i installled azerues
[12:03] <evaded> pip_: And you are the same user as on #debian?
[12:03] <anilkumar> that's all i did
[12:03] <havien> ok so what happens if you compile a program with source from a dif kernel/older?
[12:03] <anilkumar> and i also installed java also
[12:03] <pip_> evaded, yes, it is the same pip_ .it is me
[12:03] <patrick_king> it says nothing jjust logs him in
[12:04] <evaded> pip_: So case closed ;-)
[12:04] <pip_> evaded, hehe~~~
[12:04] <pip_> evaded, : )
[12:04] <evaded> pip_: Have a nice day ;-)
[12:04] <anilkumar> alynx: can u tell me the problem plzzz
[12:05] <hintswen> nice nice
[12:05] <alynx> anilkumar: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php , download suns java and azureus from here
[12:05] <patrick_king> !tell anilkumar about azerues
[12:05] <ic56> patrick_king: I think I'm starting to understand.  Explain more about what happens when you log in as user danielstamp.
[12:05] <anilkumar> alynx: ya i did it from there only
[12:06] <Jimmey__> After reconfiguring xorg, ET starts with a black screen, and stays that way. Does anyone know the solution?
[12:06] <ic56> patrick_king: ssh to where?
[12:06] <anilkumar> patrick_king :yes patrick i installed ubuntu now and then java and then azerues
[12:06] <k31th> Wat mixer does gnome use
[12:06] <k31th> i dont seem to have one installed
[12:08] <Doat> i'm trying to compile a game but it gives me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13017
[12:08] <_harm> how can i edit my source list?
[12:08] <patrick_king> ic56: i have sorted it now, i remember wat i done wrong thanks for trying to help
[12:08] <alynx> anilkumar: try wget http://etgodtparti.net/debian/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[12:09] <alynx> anilkumar: then dpkg -i it
[12:09] <ic56> patrick_king: np. good luck.
[12:09] <patrick_king> wat th ecommand to create a new user for ssh
[12:09] <ic56> patrick_king: adduser
[12:10] <zcat[1] > ?? a 'user' is a user, however they log in..
[12:10] <HymnToLife> ic56> I was under the impression it was useradd ;)
[12:10] <patrick_king> how do i create a user for mysql
[12:11] <Doat> both useradd and adduser work afaik
[12:11] <pip_> thoreauputic, you are an OP
[12:11] <thoreauputic> pip_: yes
[12:11] <stevietool> i'm trying to install dsl from floppy. I've split the files with winrar, but on the target system I always get the same file-name
[12:11] <thoreauputic> pip_: and?
[12:11] <pip_> thoreauputic,and how can I to be an OP ?
[12:12] <thoreauputic> pip_: you can't - unless you are asked
[12:12] <pip_> thoreauputic, then ....?
[12:13] <thoreauputic> pip_: erm - you become an op when and if you are asked by the community
[12:13] <thoreauputic> pip_: you can't just become an op like that
[12:13] <Jimmey__> Unless you're me
[12:13] <Jimmey__> In which case,
[12:13] <Jimmey__> You can
[12:13] <Jimmey__> Because I'm such a bad ass
[12:13] <patrick_king> cheers all, im off back to college
[12:13] <pip_> thoreauputic, Jimmey is superman?
[12:14] <pip_> thoreauputic, OK! Thank you
[12:14] <thoreauputic> pip_: Jimmey__ is kidding
[12:14] <Doat> i'm trying to compile a game but it gives me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13017
[12:14] <stevietool> does someone know something about fdisk?
[12:14] <pip_> thoreauputic, If I flood ,will you kick me ?
[12:15] <HymnToLife> Doat> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:15] <Jimmey__> stevietool, yes, fdisk -l outputs the partition table.
[12:15] <thoreauputic> pip_: definitely
[12:15] <doms> <?php echo("hellow world"); ?> in my text editor then i save it to /home/doms/php/ filename helo.php  then i open-up my firefox browser  i type the in addressbar: file:///home/doms/php/  then the file is listed when i click the helo.php is says that "Save to Disk"  i cant see a hellow world in the page. pls. help me
[12:15] <zcat[1] > stevietool: 'man fdisk' will tell you everything I know..
[12:15] <DBO> thoreauputic, so do it in #debian =)
[12:15] <Jimmey__> doms, try #apache
[12:16] <HymnToLife> doms> to run PHP scripts you _need_ a PHP server
[12:16] <thoreauputic> DBO: I can't compete with the BOFH types in #debian - they are too experienced at it ;-)
[12:16] <stevietool> jimmey: I always get fat16 when I'm creating a partition
[12:16] <Frogzoo> any possibility of changing the mac address on my 2200BG centrino nic?
[12:16] <DBO> thoreauputic, yeah, thats quite true...
[12:16] <doms> how do i hav a php server
[12:16] <zcat[1] > funny; I always get Linux (83)
[12:16] <HymnToLife> doms> search the wiki for LAMP
[12:17] <thoreauputic> DBO: #debian can be quite entertaining, if you like blodd sports ;-)
[12:17] <thoreauputic> *blood
[12:17] <DBO> !tell  HymnToLife about lamp
[12:17] <Doat> HymnToLife, ok, but now it gives http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13018 :/
[12:17] <zcat[1] > 't' to change the partition type, 'l' to list them all
[12:17] <DBO> wait
[12:17] <DBO> !tell doms about lamp
[12:17] <doms> which site
[12:18] <doms> what is lamp
[12:18] <zcat[1] > LinuxApacheMysqlPhp
[12:18] <DBO> doms, lamp = Linux Apachy Mysql and PHP
[12:18] <HymnToLife> !tell doms about lamp
[12:18] <doms> ah
[12:18] <zcat[1] > or is it linuxApacheMysqlPerl ?
[12:18] <stevietool> doms: you can run your own webserver with it
[12:19] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : or Python?
[12:19] <DBO> doms, LAMP is the defacto industry standard for running a webserver, WAMP is the defacto industry standard for crashing a web server
[12:19] <zcat[1] > nobody writes cgi in python!! Ni!
[12:19] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : all of / ny of the above i guess
[12:19] <DBO> s/WAMP/WIMP
[12:19] <doms> <?php echo("hellow world"); ?> in my text editor then i save it to /home/doms/php/ filename helo.php  then i open-up my firefox browser  i type the in addressbar: file:///home/doms/php/  then the file is listed when i click the helo.php is says that "Save to Disk"  i cant see a hellow world in the page. pls. help me
[12:19] <osfameron> !eclipse
[12:19] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[12:20] <HymnToLife> doms> I told you what you need to do
[12:20] <HymnToLife> until you do it, it won't work
[12:20] <GnarusLeo> Im in seriously need of money
[12:20] <GnarusLeo> !money
[12:20] <ubotu> GnarusLeo: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:20] <lrd> hello.
[12:20] <zcat[1] > PHP is _server side_ - it has to be processed by a server
[12:20] <GnarusLeo> Anyone got any change?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> GnarlyBob: send your resum to MS ;)
[12:21] <thoreauputic> bah tab completion
[12:21] <stevietool> doms: you can run your site local with lamp
[12:21] <lrd> how to upgrade openoffice
[12:21] <zcat[1] > Put the file in /var/www and view it as http://localhost/hello.php
[12:21] <lrd> I am using ubuntu 5.10
[12:21] <Frogzoo> !tell lrd about ooo2
[12:21] <thoreauputic> lrd: dist-upgrade to dapper
[12:21] <stevietool> doms: your computer doesn't understand php otherwise
[12:21] <doms> which site should i go to read lamp
[12:21] <zcat[1] > Firefox doesn't understand php, apache does..
[12:22] <Doat> i'm trying to install blockofighter (http://blockofighter.kicks-ass.net) but i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13018
[12:22] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : huh?
[12:22] <doms> maybe coz my computer is made from hell
[12:22] <DBO> !lamp
[12:22] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:22] <robroy98263> !lamp
[12:22] <Doat> compile* not install
[12:22] <stevietool> doms: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/index.html
[12:22] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : ah OK - you are making a server-client distinction
[12:22] <zcat[1] > yeah, sorry to confuse..
[12:22] <lrd> I don't wanna use dapper right now.
[12:22] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:23] <zcat[1] > Dapper is sweet! Use dapper!!
[12:23] <lrd> cuz I am so fond of the CDs I got.
[12:23] <zcat[1] > the only downside is you get about 100M of updates every day :-)
[12:23] <lrd> can I get dapper CDs for free?
[12:23] <lcore> doms: or just do 'php file.php >> file.html' and open file.html in firefox
[12:23] <DBO> zcat[1] , please dont push the beta, its a beta for a reason.  Only experienced users who can aford to lose all their information should use dapper
[12:24] <thoreauputic> lrd: you will be able to soon
[12:24] <zcat[1] > bah!! OK.. six more weeks, is it?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> lrd: currently shipit isn't taking orders
[12:24] <Frogzoo> how can I change the mac address on my 2200BG centrino nic?
[12:24] <doms> yes thats was what i did i use to helo.html
[12:24] <DBO> zcat[1] , more lik 4
[12:24] <doms> i can read the hellow world in the page
[12:24] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : June 1st
[12:24] <DBO> zcat[1] , wait, 6
[12:25] <zcat[1] > five..
[12:25] <zcat[1] > ish.
[12:25] <GnarusLeo> what does >> mean? Put this in that file?
[12:25] <DBO> GnarusLeo, in means append
[12:25] <thoreauputic> DBO: closer to five as zcat[1]  says
[12:25] <lrd> thank you, IC
[12:25] <DBO> hush all of you!!!  *runs and cries*
[12:25] <GnarusLeo> append?
[12:25] <DBO> s/in/it/
[12:26] <zcat[1] > Been using it since flight4.. how long ago was that?
[12:26] <DBO> append = add to the end of
[12:26] <GnarusLeo> aha, thanks :)
[12:26] <stevietool> Why does fdisk gives me a partition of fat32 when I choose max size and fat16 when I choose a part of it?
[12:27] <RobyX> What is a .daa file?
[12:27] <DBO> thoreauputic, for two weeks straight?  thats a lotta beer
[12:27] <zcat[1] > stevietool: probably guessing the most appropriate filesystem for the partition size, I dunno..
[12:27] <thoreauputic> DBO: you only live once *hic*
[12:27] <DBO> stevietool, how big is the partition you are making?
[12:27] <dibblego> !samba
[12:27] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[12:27] <lcore> RobyX: http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=DAA
[12:27] <stevietool> DBO: 90mb
[12:27] <holycow> !restrictedformats
[12:27] <ubotu> somebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:28] <DBO> stevietool, yeah, FAT16 is proper for that size
[12:28] <zcat[1] > What would you use 90M for?
[12:28] <stevietool> I want to install dls from floppy
[12:28] <zcat[1] > ahh..
[12:28] <thoreauputic>  /boot maybe ?
[12:28] <stevietool> I mean dsl
[12:28] <RobyX> Thanks
[12:29] <zcat[1] > Ummm.. you're using linux fdisk, not dos fdisk, right?
[12:29] <stevietool> freefdisk
[12:30] <DBO> thoreauputic, yes, especially in light of your beer binge banter
[12:30] <DBO> =P
[12:30] <thoreauputic> DBO: ROFL
[12:30] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:30] <RobyX> Everytime I use Linux I feel like im surrounded by millions of question marks.
[12:30] <thoreauputic> RobertB: yes - and?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[12:30] <DBO> RobyX, well, ask and you shall recieve =)
[12:31] <thoreauputic> bah, my tab completion habit needs attention
[12:31] <DBO> part of the fun of linux is learning
[12:31] <stevietool> Robyx: the answer is 42
[12:31] <thoreauputic> stevietool: but what is the question?
[12:31] <stevietool> mean of life
[12:32] <DBO> the question is "What is six times nine"
[12:32] <zcat[1] > I'd suggest toms root boot for fdisk and mke2fs, but that would be offtopic.
[12:32] <stevietool> DBO: could be :-)
[12:33] <thoreauputic> DBO: serious bug in Deep Thought
[12:33] <DBO> hmmm, we might be able to get some advice from that book for in here
[12:33] <Frogzoo> "mostly harmless"
[12:33] <DBO> perhaps a BIG BOLD series of letters in the tittle "DON'T PANIC"
[12:33] <thoreauputic> don't panic!
[12:33] <thoreauputic> heh
[12:33] <DBO> Frogzoo, Im sorry to hear that
[12:33] <zcat[1] > Improbability factor 1:1. We have reached normality. Anything you still can't deal with is your own problem.
[12:34] <thoreauputic> including animated penguins
[12:34] <DBO> hey, stop stealing my dreams!
[12:34] <mangusta> blah, toshiba fn-fx keys have stopped working
[12:35] <DBO> did they ever work?
[12:35] <DBO> in linux I mean
[12:35] <mangusta> yeah, worked for screen brightness etc
[12:35] <stevietool> you can use hotkeys to enable it
[12:35] <mangusta> yah, just it worked before, but stopped now
[12:36] <DBO> mangusta, what did you do before it stopped working?
[12:36] <mangusta> gah, pressed wrong one, screen has gone mental...
[12:36] <mangusta> brb
[12:37] <zcat[1] > hmm.. I wonder if I should find out how to use all the 'spare' buttons on my MS keyboard..
[12:37] <hyphenated> the multimedia keys?
[12:38] <zcat[1] > yeah.. and 'my computer' and 'sleep' ..
[12:38] <Frogzoo> !bindkeys
[12:38] <ubotu> Frogzoo: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:38] <Frogzoo> !keybindings
[12:38] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Frogzoo
[12:38] <zcat[1] > !google
[12:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[12:38] <Frogzoo> !keybinding
[12:38] <ubotu> I guess keybinding is console command  "gnome-keybinding-properties"    Need more info  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MultimediaKeys
[12:39] <stevietool> maybe you can do hotkeys -l to look for your multimedia keyboard
[12:41] <zcat[1] > holy crap.. dapper's already picked up most of them!! I didn't even notice!!
[12:41] <zcat[1] > I lurve dapper!!
[12:41] <zcat[1] > s/most/all/
[12:43] <stevietool> I've split dsl files with winrar in floppy size and want to install it on an old laptop, but that laptop thinks all files have the same name?
[12:43] <Shinjan> hi folks
[12:43] <zcat[1] > split them with tar?
[12:44] <stevietool> I could but on windows they are numbered to 60, I don't get it
[12:45] <zcat[1] > they don't fit 8.3 filenames?
[12:45] <stevietool> zcat: what do you mean
[12:47] <HymnToLife> it doesn't handle it at all :p
[12:48] <zcat[1] > Well. it kinda mangles them.. MICROS~1 anyone?
[12:48] <stevietool> ok , I guess the answer is 42
[12:50] <zcat[1] > i should sleep.
[12:51] <stevietool> or drink less coffee
[12:52] <stevietool> drink coffee: do stupid things faster with more energy
[12:56] <mabus> What driver do I use for my Dell A920 aka Lexmark X1150, neither are in the model list in the printing menu.
[12:56] <samir85> Hi
[12:57] <samir85> can somebody help me concerning this issue ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=965155#post965155
[12:57] <Dr3as> linuxprinting.org mabus
[12:57] <kingspawn> stevietool: a filename on that system needs to be 8 characters, then a ., then three more. ie command.com
[12:57] <kingspawn> stevietool: if you have used long filenames, you might be in trouble
[12:58] <hajuu> Thinking of writing a super parent for apt-get to allow multiple instances to run at once, without risk of db corruption.
[12:59] <vinboy> i got this error after recompile my kernel
[12:59] <vinboy> noy syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknonw-block (0,0)
[12:59] <vinboy> *NOT
[01:00] <vinboy> tat is a kernel panic
[01:00] <kingspawn> vinboy: did you make your initrd?
[01:00] <kingspawn> vinboy: and which procedure did you follow to compile the kernel?
[01:00] <kingspawn> hajuu: sounds nice, but why, if I may ask?
[01:00] <hajuu> cause I wanna be able to download two things at once damn it!
[01:00] <hajuu> lol
[01:01] <vinboy> kingspawn: i followed this one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560&highlight=2.6.15
[01:01] <kingspawn> hajuu: :)
[01:01] <gabriele> hi guys
[01:02] <gabriele> how do we change the laguage from english to italian ?
[01:02] <kingspawn> vinboy: well that one seems fairly good, are you sure you compiled the modules/static support for your filesystem?
[01:03] <stevietool> kingspawn: ooh I"ll give it antoher try
[01:03] <Evil_Monkey> anyone know if the New Zealand repos are down?
[01:03] <HymnToLife> gabriele> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:03] <Evil_Monkey> because I'm getting "Errhttp://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main amor 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu2 404 Not Found"
[01:03] <gabriele> HymnToLife: done that ...
[01:04] <gabriele> HymnToLife: logged out and logged in with the language setting to italian
[01:04] <HymnToLife> Evil_Monkey> same here
[01:04] <gnomefreak> Evil_Monkey: try taking the nz. off of them you can either use de. or us. or whatever you would like or dont use a CC
[01:04] <HymnToLife> gabriele> have you installed the italian language packs ?
[01:04] <c|linux> hmmm I'm having real trubles geting vlc to work it doesent show anny image (plays a litle sound) and shuts down after 2 sec....... (trying to play a xvid)
[01:04] <senjin> just tesing never mind this message
[01:04] <gabriele> HymnToLife: and it came up with the error "it_IT.UTF8 not availle"
[01:05] <HymnToLife> c|linux> the VLC Ubuntu build sucks but still is should work for xvids
[01:05] <gabriele> HymnToLife: but all the locales are installed for italian
[01:05] <vinboy> kingspawn: i'm not sure... do I need the RAM disk support?
[01:05] <HymnToLife> gabriele> have you installed the language packs through Synapti (or apt-get or whatever) ?
[01:06] <gabriele> HymnToLife: yes, through synatic and then checked with apt-get ...
[01:06] <vinboy> kingspawn: do i need kernel automounter support?
[01:06] <kingspawn> vinboy: well, if you did what that guide says you have made your ramdisk
[01:06] <HymnToLife> hmmm
[01:06] <Evil_Monkey> how odd - one of the files the apt-get tried to get was kdetoys_3.5.2-0ubuntu2_all.deb, which doesn't actually exist at http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdetoys/
[01:06] <HymnToLife> then I can't help you, I never messed with it much, I prefer to have all my stuff in english
[01:06] <kingspawn> vinboy: i'd say so, yes
[01:06] <Evil_Monkey> kdetoys_3.5.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb is there though
[01:07] <c|linux> HymnToLife: is there a easy way other than the vlc build to play xvid files in unbutu.... casuse this is giving me a headace...... (ps. I'm "new" to the linux world)
[01:07] <kingspawn> c|linux: try mplayer
[01:07] <c|linux> sry forgot /msg
[01:07] <c|linux> ty kingspawn
[01:09] <jjcv> \bye
[01:10] <vinboy> kingspawn: should that be module or build-in?
[01:11] <kingspawn> vinboy: built-in. but that might not be all that is causing this error. you have remembered to have builtin support for your root filesystem?
[01:15] <fennec_> bonjour
[01:15] <fennec_> quelqu'un pourrais me dire si swat est un bon outil pour grer samba sous gnome?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> !fr
[01:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:17] <vinboy> kingspawn: yes i do have tat
[01:17] <T5> anybody knows if the textmode partition tool is broken at the moment?
[01:17] <vinboy> reiser
[01:17] <ic56> Is there some magic with bash's PROMPT_COMMAND env var?  It's used to set the xterm window title.  I can't replicate the behaviour manually.
[01:17] <samir85> can somebody help me concerning this issue ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=965155#post965155 (it has something to do with gome-btdownload)
[01:18] <T5> i cant select any option in manual partitioning exept deleting the whole disk
[01:19] <CuriousCat> would anyone know how to make xorg use the vesa video driver instead of the default ati driver?
[01:20] <Frogzoo> CuriousCat: change 'driver' to vesa at a guess
[01:21] <osfameron> curses, eclipse download site appears to be borken since this morning
[01:21] <AnAnt> I can't get my ALPS working on Ubuntu !
[01:21] <CuriousCat> Frogzoo, where do i do that from the command line?
[01:21] <Frogzoo> T5: meaning fdisk? no, fdisk works fine
[01:21] <idefix__> what's the linux alternative for windows media player 10?
[01:21] <Frogzoo> CuriousCat: in xorg.conf
[01:22] <T5> fdisk is working fine indeed, but the installer doenst let me chose specific partitions
[01:22] <HymnToLife> idefix__> there are lots : VLC, Mplayer, Xine, GStreamer...
[01:22] <RobyX> HymnToLife know a good one for videos?
[01:22] <CuriousCat> Frogzoo, ok. let me check that out in a bit
[01:22] <idefix__> I have VLM installed but the website says no suitable plugins are found
[01:22] <HymnToLife> all of them are good
[01:22] <HymnToLife> my personal favourite is VLC
[01:23] <RobyX> I'll get that now.
[01:23] <Frogzoo> T5: it does if you choose manual
[01:23] <idefix__> I mean I have VLC installed
[01:23] <T5> Frogzoo, no it does not
[01:23] <RehanSAlvi> hi everyone, I just installed ubuntu in a VM environment and can't seem to access the internet through it...is there anything I need to do? I'm a complete newbie.
[01:23] <T5> i have been chossing manual every time i tested it (4 times)
[01:24] <born_> my tomcat doesn't run...
[01:24] <HymnToLife> RehanSAlvi> this is not a problem with Ubuntu but with your VM, I don't think it's wise to use it if you're a "complete newbie"
[01:24] <born_> I don't undrestand anymore... Sometimes It's works sometimes isn't
[01:24] <HymnToLife> better free some space on your actual hard drive and install on it
[01:25] <km0ti0n> this.oDetails.id
[01:25] <km0ti0n> opps
[01:25] <born_> Does Someone work with tomcat ?
[01:25] <HymnToLife> born_>  assume thee is and ask the eal question :)
[01:25] <idefix__> HymnToLife: I have downloaded a php.html file and it works! 8-)
[01:25] <HymnToLife> real*
[01:26] <HymnToLife> well, that's a HTML file, not PHP
[01:26] <RobyX> VLC is great.. this one doesent skip sound or buggy video like the other ones thanks
[01:26] <idefix__> HymnToLife: but it's some sort of audio file
[01:26] <idefix__> VLC ran it
[01:27] <HymnToLife> that's weird
[01:27] <RehanSAlvi> HymnToLife: well i'm a complete newbie to ubuntu :)  Has anyone been able to get it to work in VM environment with internet?
[01:27] <RehanSAlvi> HymnToLife: how can I check to see if ubuntu has activated the network card?
[01:27] <tikitorch> RehanSAlvi: I have
[01:27] <RehanSAlvi> tikitorch: did you use the NAT or direct setting for the wizard?
[01:28] <born_> HymnToLife,  sorry ? I'm not a native speaker, and my brain stucks sometimes... Tomcat drive me crazy
[01:28] <HymnToLife> RehanSAlvi> once again, it's not Ubuntu's problem but your VM's
[01:28] <RobyX> System>administration>networking
[01:28] <RehanSAlvi> tikitorch: nat or bridged i meant
[01:28] <RobyX> To check if it's active.
[01:28] <HymnToLife> it's your VM you nned to configure so your Ubuntu can access internet
[01:29] <HymnToLife> born_> I mean you doesn't need to ask if there is someone who does blahblahblah
[01:29] <tikitorch> HymnToLife: nah... ubuntu sometimes does "ifup" the ethernet interface
[01:29] <HymnToLife> just ask the real question, if someone know he will answer
[01:29] <tikitorch> sorry does not "ifup eth0"
[01:30] <HymnToLife> tikitorch> it the network is well configured in VMware, Ubuntu will detect and activate it during install
[01:30] <RehanSAlvi> tikitorch: I'm only seeing a modem connection in system->admin->networking
[01:31] <genesis[OnFire] > hi
[01:31] <RehanSAlvi> HymnToLife: I'm only seeing the modem connection
[01:31] <Chazwazza> hey, all, i have a problem, whenever i try to run my Ubuntu 5.10 Live CD (PC) it gets stuck on Enterprise Volume Management and doesn't progress any further
[01:31] <born_> HymnToLife, ok I understood... So for sure I think  It 's not a problem that could be solved at a ubuntu channel as well, I will try tomcat channel. thanks
[01:31] <Chazwazza> (i have had a harddrive failure and i am using slax atm)
[01:32] <Chazwazza> but i would rather use ubuntu
[01:32] <Chazwazza> this doesn't have the sofware i want, but until i get ubuntu working its all i've got
[01:32] <Chazwazza> everything boots well up until Enterprise Volume Management but it doesn't boot any further
[01:33] <RehanSAlvi> HymnToLife: suppose I wasn't using VM and my ethernet adaptor wasn't being detected, what would you recommend I do?
[01:33] <RobyX> Im gona get stoned right now, tired of fixing linux stuff for tonight
[01:33] <Chazwazza> fix me first RobyX :P
[01:35] <HymnToLife> RehanSAlvi> sorry it's been a while since I last used VMWare, I don't remeber the settings I used
[01:35] <genesis[OnFire] > Chazwazza - do you get any error messages in the different virtual consoles?
[01:35] <RehanSAlvi> HymnToLife: If I wasn't using VMware, and just had a stock ubuntu install and my NIC wasn't being detected, what would you recommend?
[01:36] <Chazwazza> genesis, i don't think i get any other error messages if thats what you're asking
[01:36] <kingspawn> Chazwazza: could try setting lvm=off at boottime
[01:36] <HymnToLife> NIC ?
[01:36] <Chazwazza> ok
[01:36] <Chazwazza> should i try that now?
[01:36] <RehanSAlvi> HymnToLife: network card = nic
[01:37] <Chazwazza> ie restart and try
[01:37] <HymnToLife> hmm
[01:37] <genesis[OnFire] > yep, do what kingspawn said :)
[01:37] <Chazwazza> ok
[01:37] <HymnToLife> it's very unlikely that Ubuntu doesn't detect network cards during install
[01:37] <Chazwazza> hopefully bbs, this time running ubuntu though ;)
[01:37] <israel> http://israel.275mb.com/index3.php                            http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Google.htm                                                                http://www.business.dcn.co.il/
[01:37] <genesis[OnFire] > well, if you want to try it now, then yeah
[01:37] <HymnToLife> pastebin the output of ifconfig
[01:38] <kingspawn> Chazwazza: well, might work, might not work
[01:38] <Chazwazza> ok, i'm gonna go try it now, and hope it works
[01:38] <genesis[OnFire] > HymnToLife: make that a VERY unlikely
[01:38] <RehanSAlvi> HymnToLife: is that for me?
[01:38] <HymnToLife> yes
[01:39] <genesis[OnFire] > and man, cgi irc doesn't work very well with freenode :\
[01:39] <javad> hi
[01:40] <javad> how can I run one cpp file in ubuntu?
[01:40] <kingspawn> javad: need to compile it first
[01:40] <kingspawn> !b-e
[01:40] <ubotu> b-e is, like, totally, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[01:41] <kingspawn> follow what ubotu says, javad
[01:41] <javad> ok how can I compile it in G++
[01:41] <kingspawn> javad: follow what ubotu says
[01:41] <javad> would you plz give me the instruction
[01:42] <gnomefreak> javad: g++ file.cpp -o file    if that doesnt owrk after you install build-essential than try gcc file.cpp -o file
[01:42] <gnomefreak> javad: but you need build-essential
[01:42] <shriphani> hi ppl] 
[01:43] <gnomefreak> s/owrk/work
[01:43] <javad> build-essential what is that?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> !be
[01:43] <ubotu> gnomefreak: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:43] <gnomefreak> !b-e
[01:43] <ubotu> b-e is probably no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[01:43] <kingspawn> gnomefreak: just did...
[01:43] <gnomefreak> sorry
[01:43] <gnomefreak> :(
[01:43] <kingspawn> gnomefreak: no prob, he needs another run of it, heh
[01:44] <gnomefreak> javad: its a meta package of files and apps you need for compiling building coding and so on
[01:44] <javad> I wrote my program in one text file then save it as a cpp file then i don't know how can I compile it?!!!
[01:44] <shriphani> i have a problem
[01:44] <shriphani> i got ubuntu on my pc
[01:44] <kingspawn> jadad: type: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:44] <gnomefreak> javad: type in terminal sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:44] <kingspawn> .. :)
[01:44] <shriphani> HELLO!!!
[01:45] <KenSentMe> shriphani: just ask your question
[01:45] <_jason> javad: after you do that, read this: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/C%2B%2B_Programming/Hello_world
[01:45] <gnomefreak> javad: after its installed in the terminal type g++ file.cpp -o file  to compile your program if it doesnt work replace g++ with gcc
[01:45] <shriphani> my grub f00ked up
[01:45] <shriphani> it worked fine for a day
[01:45] <styler> somebody speeking french ?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> styler: #ubuntu-fr
[01:46] <shriphani> day 2 when i started my pc i got ERROR 15
[01:46] <shriphani> any ideas
[01:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell shriphani about grub
[01:46] <javad> it has an erroor like this g++: jj.cpp: No such file or directory
[01:46] <javad> g++: no input files
[01:46] <gnomefreak> javad: did you isntall build-essential?
[01:47] <javad> yes
[01:47] <_jason> javad: you have to be in the same directory that jj.cpp is
[01:47] <javad> I did it
[01:47] <javad> but it has the error like that
[01:47] <KenSentMe> shriphani: 15 : File not found
[01:47] <KenSentMe>     This error is returned if the specified file name cannot be found, but everything else (like the disk/partition info) is OK.
[01:47] <javad> aha
[01:47] <javad> ok
[01:47] <javad> tanx
[01:47] <gnomefreak> javad: than try using gcc instead of g++ and _jason is right you need to cd to where file is
[01:47] <javad> thank you very much for your consideration
[01:47] <KenSentMe> shriphani: have you alterend some files before the error occurred?
[01:47] <javad> man
[01:47] <AnAnt> I can't get my ALPS touchpad working in Ubuntu, can someone help ? I need to enable the vertical scroll & disable tap-to-click
[01:47] <javad> :D
[01:48] <javad> have a nice time
[01:51] <kingspawn> shriphani: basically, if you move files around in /boot without being extremely careful grub will go bananas on you. it does not initially read "filenames" as such, but sectors where the specific file is located. thus, if you change it, move it, or do anything clever, grub will take exception
[01:51] <felix_E> is there anyway to remove ntpdate but not ubuntu-base / ubuntu-minimal?
[01:51] <mrmist> Hi all
[01:51] <shriphani> ok thanx people
[01:51] <mrmist> what file do I edit to automatically mount a when booting ??
[01:51] <mrmist> mount a disk
[01:52] <kingspawn> mrmist: /etc/fstab
[01:52] <mrmist> can I mount a ntfs-disk in ubuntu, and still write on it ?
[01:52] <AnAnt> I also have a problem is that Ubuntu takes much time to boot when my eth0 is not connected (I notice that the delay is from networking script) how can I fix that ?
[01:52] <kIOsk> anyones here running ident2 ???
[01:52] <RehanSAlvi> HymnToLife: here's a screenshot of my ifconfig :  http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1444/untitled14az.jpg
[01:53] <HymnToLife> AnAnt> you can prss Ctrl+C to abort network connecting attempts
[01:53] <AnAnt> HymnToLife: I think I tried that
[01:54] <kingspawn> mrmist: you can mount it, writing is not really a good idea
[01:54] <HymnToLife> RehanSAlvi> then the network seems to work fine, have you activated Internet Connection Sharing on your windows ?
[01:54] <mrmist> kingspawn: why not ? Insecure ??
[01:54] <RehanSAlvi> HymnToLife: weird, it just started working on its own
[01:54] <kingspawn> mrmist: might corrupt your data badly
[01:54] <felix_E> i'm looking for a directive like "ignore dependancy ubuntu-base:ntpdate" - is there something like that?
[01:54] <mrmist> kingspawn: ouch... Ok... hehe... wouldn't want that
[01:55] <^^angusta> felix_E, you can force an update
[01:55] <mrmist> kingspawn: So let's say I move the data to another disk, reformat the whole disk, and put the data back... what kind of FS should I format the drive to ?
[01:55] <felix_E> ^^angusta: what do you mean?
[01:55] <Chazwazza> didn't work, it still got stuck on "Enterprise Volume Management System"
[01:55] <mrmist> And I'm new to Linux... how do i actually format the drive...
[01:55] <gnomefreak> felix_E: i would read man atp-get and man dpkg for more info on that
[01:55] <RehanSAlvi> HymnToLife: thanks for being so patient with me! :)
[01:56] <HymnToLife> you're welcome :)
[01:56] <gnomefreak> man apt-get and man dpkg
[01:56] <gnomefreak> my typing is bad today :(
[01:57] <felix_E> gnomefreak: thanks, but thats what i did. and there doesnt seem to be any way to just disable one specific dependency...
[01:57] <Chazwazza> what is Enterprise Volume Management System anyway, what does it do
[01:57] <felix_E> gnomefreak: what i want to do is "aptitude remove ntpdate" without removing ubuntu-base.
[01:57] <gnomefreak> felix_E: sure there is i was looking at it yesterday
[01:57] <AnsiC> i need the image of kernel 2.6.11.12
[01:58] <AnsiC> but apt-cache search linux-image do not find it
[01:58] <AnsiC> find only 2.6.12.x
[01:58] <gnomefreak> felix_E: now that im not sure of i know you can do it for installing but not sure about removing
[01:58] <AnsiC> what i need i a bare.i for 2.6.11.12
[01:58] <felix_E> gnomefreak: --ignore-depends=ubuntu-base doesnt help me and --force-depends doesnt too.
[01:58] <Chazwazza> anyone got any other ideas as to how to fix this?
[01:59] <gnomefreak> felix_E: why are you trying to get rid of it?
[01:59] <mrmist> what filesystem is the best one ?
[01:59] <gnomefreak> mrmist: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that answer
[01:59] <felix_E> gnomefreak: chrony conflicts with it. and i can't use ntpd because my local clock has too much drift.
[02:00] <samir85> can somebody help me concerning this issue ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=965155#post965155 (it has something to do with gome-btdownload)
[02:00] <gnomefreak> felix_E: disabling it doesnt help?
[02:00] <felix_E> gnomefreak: "aptitude install chrony" automatically deletes ntpdate, ubuntu-base, ubunut-minimal
[02:01] <gnomefreak> felix_E: does apt-get also do it?
[02:01] <Chazwazza> this person is having my problem except mine isn't fixable by a reboot
[02:01] <Chazwazza> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24384
[02:02] <felix_E> gnomefreak: yes
[02:02] <gnomefreak> im not sure than felix_E you can install them after it removes them but other than that im sorry
[02:03] <Chazwazza> can someone please help me, i have a heap of work to do, my harddrive failed, so ubuntu is my last chance (or can someone at least tell me i'm on some kind of queue of being helped), sorry if i'm being pushy but i'm really rushed atm
[02:03] <alynx> im just curious , does Cedega provide a fair FPS when playing wow ? my wine installation gets rather low FPS
[02:04] <Dr3as> pretty good fps.. depends on x driver and stuff
[02:04] <alynx> around 50-60 ?
[02:04] <felix_E> gnarusleo: the problem is of course that "aptitude install ubuntu-base" will remove chrony. not cool.
[02:04] <Dr3as> ye, but i get bigger drops than i had in windows
[02:04] <_jason> Chazwazza: not really a queue, someone just helps if they know how.  If someone doesn't help, usually just means no one that is around knows how
[02:05] <alynx> i use the nvidia 7667 driver
[02:05] <Dr3as> and a strange keystuck feature..
[02:05] <Chazwazza> damn.......i'm screwed then....lol
[02:05] <Beawolfe> Question for the group............I have 2 machines both with WinXP on them through a Netgear Router............I installed a second HD on one machine and installed Ubuntu............when I am in Ubuntu on the one machine the secound machine wont see the Ubuntu drive or a fat 32 drive on the network anymore...any help on this matter would be appreciated
[02:05] <Dr3as> sometimes a key pretends it's stuck,
[02:06] <^^angusta> Beawolfe, you need to setup a smb share for windows to access
[02:06] <^^angusta> look at samba
[02:06] <alynx> Dr3as: thanks for the reply , i'll give the trial demo a try
[02:06] <Beawolfe> not sure what that is ^^angusta
[02:07] <dion33> is there an easy way to re-configure/compile the nvidia kernel option? (made a minor change in the kernel..)
[02:07] <kingspawn> !kernelcompile
[02:07] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[02:07] <felix_E> no apt-freaks here? there must be a way to do it!
[02:07] <kingspawn> dion33 ^^
[02:07] <^^angusta> google samba
[02:08] <dion33> nah, i've already re-compiled the kernel, and my previous nvidia settings arent working for obvious reasons
[02:08] <CuriousCat> has anyone here used the ATI linux driver on Ubuntu?
[02:09] <J_P> hi all
[02:10] <dion33> i thought dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-common mightve been an option, but alas no
[02:10] <kingspawn> dion33: boot your old one :)
[02:10] <J_P> people, Dapper will be released with python 2.5 or 2.4 ?
[02:10] <delcoyote_> untu-es
[02:11] <dion33> i guess i could manually do it from nvidia site, but i was trying to do it the ubuntu way
[02:11] <Chazwazza> can i read dvds while using a live cd (i'm running live slax atm)
[02:12] <zeus> salut
[02:13] <Chazwazza> well, i guess i'll try then
[02:13] <Chazwazza> if i suddenly disappear its caus slax crashed :P
[02:14] <Beawolfe> I found it Thanx!
[02:14] <Chazwazza> wtf
[02:14] <Chazwazza> it won't let me open my cd drive
[02:14] <Chazwazza> there, did it
[02:14] <Chazwazza> had to do it through menu :S
[02:16] <Chazwazza> it won't read any of my DVDs
[02:16] <Chazwazza> i have data on them but whenever i open them they come up empty
[02:17] <Chazwazza> they worked in windows
[02:17] <dion33> so after patching the kernel, there no way to reconfigure (the already installed nvidia driver) to work with the new kernel?
[02:18] <kingspawn> dion33: probably there is
[02:18] <kingspawn> !nvidia
[02:18] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:18] <kingspawn> maybe he knows
[02:18] <BlueEagle> dion33: If you manually compile your kernel you need to install the nvidia drivers off nvidia.com as far as I know.
[02:19] <Chazwazza> !lvm
[02:19] <ubotu> [lvm]  (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[02:19] <dion33> hmm
[02:20] <dion33> 12Mb for a driver, ouch
[02:20] <Chazwazza> !evm
[02:20] <ubotu> Chazwazza: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:21] <dion33> !evms
[02:21] <ubotu> evms is probably the Enterprise Volume Management System, for managing complex disk setups
[02:21] <rambo3> use .msg boot
[02:21] <Chazwazza> maybe i'll try evms=off ?
[02:21] <Chazwazza> well, slax is screwed caus i took the cd out and launched soemthing without putting the cd back in
[02:22] <Chazwazza> so i gotta restart anyway
[02:22] <Chazwazza> well, bbs
[02:22] <No1Viking> I made a partition in cfdisk called /dev/hda4. When I now try to format it with the mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda4 command it say it cannot find anything. Any ideas?
[02:22] <Beawolfe> ^^angusta...I notice through the synaptic manager that there is samba listed but not installed............is that what is needed?
[02:23] <void^> No1Viking: try a reboot, or perhaps blockdev --rereadpt /dev/hda
[02:23] <doms> their is a good trick how to format my linux bot one line
[02:23] <No1Viking> void^, ok
[02:24] <doms> urios college
[02:24] <doms> wasting 3 to 6 million to microsoft
[02:26] <^^angusta> Beawolfe, yes, but I would suggest reading up on it first
[02:31] <A[D] minS> why i can't find alsaconf ?
[02:31] <Beawolfe> ^^angusta ..Thanx...That is what I am doing now
[02:31] <oneleaf_> hello ,I need php5-pear package,how to find it ?
[02:33] <gud_> is there any way of filtering out/hiding messages such as "emixam has quit (Client Quit)" ?
[02:33] <A[D] minS> how i can start alsa service ?
[02:34] <Chazwazza> still nothing....
[02:34] <kingspawn> A[D] minS: /etc/rc.d/alsa start
[02:35] <gud_> is there any way of filtering out/hiding messages such as "emixam has quit (Client Quit)" ?
[02:35] <OffHand> right click tab in xchat
[02:36] <OffHand> toggle show join part messages
[02:36] <^^angusta> oneleaf_, go to pear.php.net
[02:36] <OffHand> any dapper experts?
[02:36] <oneleaf_> ^^angusta: thanks
[02:36] <^^angusta> most are in #ubuntu+1 OffHand
[02:36] <^^angusta> np oneleaf_
[02:36] <OffHand> they don't know my prob so I figured I would try here
[02:37] <^^angusta> ok
[02:37] <A[D] minS> kingspawn: can't find it in any /etc/rc*.d./alsa
[02:37] <OffHand> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave  << error when I try to open grub with sudo gedit
[02:37] <OffHand> doesn't happen when I close beep
[02:37] <rambo3> A[D] minS,  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[02:37] <kingspawn> A[D] minS: my bad, meant init.d
[02:37] <kingspawn> sorry about that one
[02:38] <A[D] minS> ok
[02:38] <^^angusta> bbl, restarting x
[02:38] <A[D] minS> ok i have a problem with my audio card
[02:38] <A[D] minS> ekiga says " its not support full-duplex"
[02:38] <A[D] minS> but am sure its support
[02:38] <A[D] minS> so what i have to do ?
[02:39] <cappiz> any .uk people around :) ?
[02:39] <Nogimics> how do you find out what kernal you are running?
[02:39] <rambo3> you can start buy searching for your card on alsa and copying configs
[02:39] <olga> hallo du
[02:39] <bliss1_> hello
[02:39] <jisatsu> cappiz, yep
[02:39] <rambo3> and searching google too
[02:39] <olga> how are you?
[02:39] <A[D] minS> rambo3:  i was configuer alsa by alsaconf in mandriva
[02:40] <cappiz> jisatsu: can i priv msg you...? its not about linux at all
[02:40] <A[D] minS> in ubuntu what i have to do?
[02:40] <jisatsu> sure :P
[02:40] <A[D] minS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13019 this da erorr
[02:40] <olga> Hello how are you?
[02:40] <bliss1_> have a vmware question only have one laptop so do i need networking as in Do you want networking for your virtual machines
[02:41] <J_P> There are plan to release ubuntu dapper with python 2.5 as default ?
[02:41] <A[D] minS> my audio card 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05)
[02:41] <A[D] minS> !alsa
[02:41] <ubotu> hmm... alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[02:41] <ocult> hello
[02:41] <A[D] minS> !dmix
[02:41] <ubotu> methinks dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:42] <ocult> oh a lot of useres..
[02:42] <ocult> i was searching for one problem in ubuntu linux, but i didnt find in faqs or forums
[02:42] <rambo3> A[D] minS, did you fix .asound file in home dir
[02:42] <ocult> about sound. here can i find somebody to try help ? please
[02:43] <A[D] minS> rambo3: i added it
[02:43] <A[D] minS> wait a sec and will show u whats in it
[02:43] <A[D] minS> rambo3: http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc thats it
[02:43] <rambo3> whats your card btw ?
[02:43] <A[D] minS> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05)
[02:43] <ocult> rambo3, me ?
[02:43] <gud_> i have only one user on my pc, gud, is that user root?
[02:44] <ocult> hi hi
[02:45] <kingspawn> gud_: no
[02:45] <kingspawn> !root
[02:45] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:45] <gud_> ok, but i can give gud root rights?
[02:45] <megadeth> hello, we speake spanish or a chilean?
[02:46] <gud_> by typing  "sudo -s -H"
[02:46] <BlueEagle> megadeth: #ubuntu-es
[02:46] <ocult> the problem is.. when i listen one music, if i change music or put one video in other place.. its dont work good. i need press Stop many times to begin new sound in other place.. i mean.. i cant execute 2 sounds at same time.. how i solve this problem ? please
[02:46] <Zarephath> !tell megadeth about spanish
[02:46] <zax1> tell megadeath about trashmetal
[02:46] <zax1> !
[02:46] <ubotu> zax1: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:47] <megadeth> quien habla espaol???
[02:47] <BlueEagle> megadeth: join #ubuntu-es por favor
[02:47] <ocult> megadeth, que passa ?
[02:47] <Zarephath> How or where can I find information about only allowing users on a computer for a certain length of time?
[02:47] <Zarephath> One s dude
[02:47] <ocult> BlueEagle, have in portuguese too ?
[02:47] <Zarephath> megadeth: A nadien aqui
[02:48] <megadeth> lol
[02:48] <megadeth> y tu xD
[02:48] <ocult> megadeth, yo no soy spanol, mas yo pueso tentar hablar.. poquito
[02:49] <megadeth> who are your country?
[02:49] <ocult> megadeth, i live in japan
[02:49] <A[D] minS> gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture': Could not open resource for reading. [gstalsasrc.c(526): gst_alsasrc_open (): /pipeline1/alsasrc1:
[02:49] <_jason> !es
[02:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:49] <A[D] minS> Recording open error: Invalid argument] 
[02:49] <megadeth> wow
[02:49] <ocult> but nobody help solv my problem yet :(
[02:49] <slackern> Guys im running both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop but i prefer the ubuntu-splashscreen instead of the kubuntu one how would i change so it used the ubuntu one?
[02:50] <Goshawk> slackern: usplash-theme-usplash if i'm not wrong
[02:50] <bliss1_>  have a vmware question only have one laptop so do i need networking as in Do you want networking for your virtual machines
[02:50] <Goshawk> ah hi sladen
[02:51] <Goshawk> slackern: sorry, i can't see. try to find out usplash in synaptic and you will find the ubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu theme
[02:52] <josh__> I am trying to get my webcam to work with amsn, though when I send it to a friend it keeps saying that it is cancelled after they accept it? Any ideas on how I could fix this?
[02:52] <antonio10> ciao
[02:52] <slackern> gah, usplash trashed the desktop, oh well.
[02:52] <Goshawk> ciao antonio10
[02:52] <antonio10> sono un novello
[02:52] <ocult> italian ?
[02:52] <ocult> :O
[02:53] <antonio10> sono appena riuscito a configurare il modem
[02:53] <slackern> !it
[02:53] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:53] <bigfoot2> i used to use evelotion before. but not anymore. i would like to delete all my personal data. I tried deleting /.evolution, but when i opened up evo , all was still there. any advice?
[02:53] <antonio10> finalmente nella rete
[02:53] <Goshawk> antonio10: ho visto, ma qui si parla solo INGLESE
[02:53] <ocult> como configuro o som direito ?
[02:53] <antonio10> excuse me
[02:53] <ocult> ola
[02:53] <Goshawk> ocult: what?
[02:54] <ocult> Goshawk, my sound
[02:54] <ocult> Goshawk, :(
[02:54] <Goshawk> ocult: sound card?
[02:54] <ocult> Goshawk, the problem is.. when i listen one music, if i change music or put one video in other place.. its dont work good. i need press Stop many times to begin new sound in other place.. i mean.. i cant execute 2 sounds at same time.. how i solve this problem ? please
[02:54] <Goshawk> ocult: is it detected?
[02:54] <Bader> hi
[02:54] <ocult> Goshawk, understand ?
[02:54] <Goshawk> ocult: it seems that your sound card is not weel supported
[02:55] <Goshawk> what's the model?
[02:55] <ocult> Goshawk, i dont remember. new notebook
[02:55] <Bader> I'm using linux since 8 years now, and I never succeed to read any MIDI file. Any help ?
[02:55] <Goshawk> s/weel/well
[02:55] <ocult> Goshawk, some idea ?
[02:55] <Mindlight> Hiyall. Question: I want to download Ubuntu Dapper Drake Beta 2...but all I find is Desktop (LiveCD) and Text-mode (for OEM installations)... am I lost or am I lost? Which one do I download if I want to make a scratchinstall of Ubuntu Dapper Drake beta 2 on my HDA1 ? :D
[02:55] <Goshawk> ocult: give me the name of the notebook (model)
[02:55] <Bader> I've tried playfile myfile.mid with no success
[02:56] <Bader> it gives me, and all other midi player, the following error: /dev/sequencer not fount, or no sequencer found
[02:56] <josh__> any ideas on how I could get my webcam working with amsn?
[02:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mindlight: What do you mean by 'scratchinstall'?
[02:56] <josh__> it is detected in the prefs, though when I send it to someone, after a min or 2 after it is accepted it gets cancelled
[02:57] <Mindlight> PuMpErNiCkLe: Fresh install. I want to install it on my harddisk. Wipe all and then install. LiveCDs are for wimps ;)
[02:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ah
[02:57] <megadeth> hello I am new in linux and wanted to know as I can leave the terminal in the writing-desk fixed
[02:57] <^^angusta> megadeth, or commitment phobes.....
[02:58] <^^angusta> Mindlight, rather
[02:58] <ocult> Goshawk, it dont have name.. i said the configuration for one person, then he mounted for me
[02:58] <ocult> Goshawk, :)
[02:58] <orbin> megadeth: say what?
[02:58] <kingspawn> ocult: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:58] <megadeth> hello I am new in linux and wanted to know as I can leave the terminal in the writing-desk fixed
[02:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mindlight: It looks like a combined Live/Install cd.
[02:58] <kingspawn> ocult: near the end of the page it tells you how to setup software mixing
[02:58] <orbin> megadeth: still have no idea what you're aksing
[02:58] <Goshawk> ocult: ok do lspci and find your sound card
[02:59] <Mindlight> ^^angusta: I dont get what you mean?
[02:59] <Mindlight> PuMpErNiCkLe: Smells bloat...but ok...I will give it a try... Thanx a LOT! :D
[02:59] <slackern> megadeth: Im not quite sure what you mean.
[02:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mindlight: np :)
[02:59] <^^angusta> Live cd is for wimps, or commitment phobes (Fear of commitment)
[02:59] <megadeth> i need help for the terminal
[02:59] <Mindlight> ^^angusta: :D
[02:59] <orbin> megadeth: ok, that makes sense.  what sort of help?
[03:00] <kingspawn> ocult: you might also need to read this: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:00] <megadeth> as I can leave it permanent in writing-desk?
[03:00] <Mindlight> ^^angusta: Only phobes I have is girlswithhairontheirback phobes ;)
[03:00] <orbin> megadeth: writing-desk?
[03:00] <^^angusta> hahahah
[03:00] <slackern> megadeth: writing-desk=desktop ?
[03:00] <megadeth> as I can leave it permanent in writing-desk?  the terminal
[03:00] <Goshawk> Does anyone is able to play well with arpspoof? i've few questions....
[03:00] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone lend a helping hand?
[03:01] <kingspawn> !ask
[03:01] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[03:01] <nido> sorry for the nick
[03:02] <ubuntuuser> hi
[03:02] <stjepan> how can I tell APT I installed something from source?
[03:02] <ubuntuuser> hey
[03:02] <megadeth> connect all to Chlenos Linux
[03:02] <Goshawk> stjepan: if i'm not wrong apt is not able to install from source
[03:03] <monomaniacpat> Basically, I've been following these instructions successfully... http://www.cwelug.org/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi?Wpc11v4#source and having turned off the ethernet and the wireless is on, I can't connect to nothin'
[03:03] <orbin> stjepan: use checkinstall
[03:03] <kingspawn> stjepan: you can use checkinstall
[03:03] <kingspawn> oh, heh, orbin had you covered there
[03:04] <orbin> kingspawn: :P
[03:04] <A[D] minS> !aoss
[03:04] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, A[D] minS
[03:04] <A[D] minS> !audio
[03:04] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, A[D] minS
[03:04] <A[D] minS> !alsa
[03:04] <ubotu> alsa is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[03:04] <A[D] minS> !dmix
[03:04] <ubotu> dmix is, like, first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:04] <kingspawn> A[D] minS: if you just query the bot, you can ask him directly
[03:05] <orbin> A[D] minS: /msg the bot please
[03:05] <ubuntuuser> can someon help me : i have disconnectet one of my harddisks an now my ubuntu dont start (two partions had the label /home) now the blocksize is to low how can i repair that
[03:05] <A[D] minS> kingspawn:  ok  thx
[03:05] <stjepan> kingspawn, checkinstall is not very good
[03:05] <stjepan> kingspawn, checkinstall makes quite bad packages
[03:06] <kryjo> .
[03:06] <ubuntuuser> can someon help me : i have disconnectet one of my harddisks an now my ubuntu dont start (two partions had the label /home) now the blocksize is to low how can i repair that
[03:06] <stjepan> orbin, is it possible to tell it to apt without making any packages?
[03:06] <snail> ubuntuuser: first thing to do is to boot the livecd, mount the disks and transfer all the data you care about to someplace safe, possibly over the network
[03:06] <stjepan> orbin, with Gentoo I can just put the name of the software in /etc/portage/package.provided
[03:06] <snail> ubuntuuser: particular data since you last backedup
[03:07] <orbin> stjepan: no, afaik, apt can only track the status of deb files.
[03:09] <kingspawn> stjepan: heh ,then youre in trouble :)
[03:09] <ubuntuuser> nail : hmm .... if there is no other way i have to reinstall ubuntu the data i care about is on another partiotion ;) thank you
[03:10] <_jason> stjepan: what's bad about the checkinstall packages if they are for your personal use?
[03:10] <monomaniacpat> Anyone?
[03:10] <ubuntuuser> quit
[03:12] <gud_> im having trouble installing the ipw2200 drivers, im following this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 and im stuck, however i dont want to flood the chanel with the error message, so please let me know if you want to help, so i can show it to you
[03:13] <Hobbsee> gud_: you can pastebin the error messages - see the topic
[03:13] <gud_> what do you mean by pastebin?
[03:14] <jbroome> !pastebin
[03:14] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:14] <megadeth> hello i am new in the operative sistem linux and i am inexpert
[03:14] <megadeth> mmmm...
[03:14] <gud_> oh, se topic, right hehe
[03:14] <megadeth> i want are the terminal from background
[03:15] <lifo> Hey ppl
[03:15] <nido> i'm trying to install dapper on my regular x86 system; but it walks me through to the partition manager thingie; then up to the moment where i should push the ``install button'' ; but if i do; it tells me i didn't select a root system (which i did); and tries to start the partition manager again (which hangs at 15%
[03:15] <lifo> My installation is stuck at "Installing core packages"
[03:15] <lifo> What do i do :(
[03:15] <monomaniacpat> http://www.cwelug.org/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi?Wpc11v4#source can anyone help me to unplug the wireless succeessfully?
[03:16] <HymnToLife> nido> Dapper is beta for a reason...
[03:16] <monomaniacpat> nido: did you set root by using / (oblique)
[03:16] <monomaniacpat> ?
[03:16] <nido> yea;  HymnToLife>; i know
[03:16] <nido> how do you mean ublique monomaniacpat>
[03:17] <monomaniacpat> oblique is another word for forward slash
[03:17] <HymnToLife> LMAO that was a good one
[03:17] <lifo> ppl :(
[03:17] <nido> oh. yea; I did specify a `/`
[03:17] <lifo> please help me
[03:17] <monomaniacpat> slackern: that doesn't work - I have tried unplugging and it doesn't work
[03:17] <HymnToLife> "unplug the wireless network"
[03:17] <lifo> My installation is stuck at "Installing core packages"
[03:17] <lifo> i dont know what to do
[03:17] <IOWAHC> Hy  @ all
[03:18] <LinuxJones> lifo: can you restart the machine and start over ?
[03:19] <_arkanis> hi
[03:19] <lifo> I can do that
[03:19] <LinuxJones> lifo: maybe you have a bad .iso file or burned it too fast.
[03:19] <lifo> but i hope this doesnt happen again :(
[03:19] <lifo> All the day I've been trying to install ubuntu
[03:19] <LinuxJones> lifo: it only takes 5 minutes to find out :)
[03:19] <lifo> is there a problem with burning ubuntu image at high speed ?
[03:19] <lifo> I never faced this with any other distro
[03:20] <LinuxJones> lifo: sometimes it can cause problems yeah
[03:20] <_arkanis> Hope you can help: I have a php script which want to start from a bash-script. So I have the bash-script with "./myfile.php" within, but every time I call the bash-script, I get syntax error (there are 100% no php-errors)
[03:20] <IOWAHC> hy  @ all
[03:20] <_arkanis> Has somebody an idea what could cause that?
[03:20] <monomaniacpat> IOWAHC: HI
[03:20] <IOWAHC> I have a problem... My Acer Aspire has a Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit inside.
[03:20] <LinuxJones> lifo: check the md5sum of your downloaded .iso file first
[03:20] <IOWAHC> I cant ping to the outworld
[03:20] <_arkanis> here is the script: http://pastebin.com/686938
[03:21] <IOWAHC> i also checked the Forum but i wasn't able to find a solution
[03:21] <IOWAHC> /etc/network/interfaces is correct
[03:21] <lifo> I checked md5 sum of iso
[03:21] <lifo> it was valid
[03:21] <lifo> didnt check md5 of burned CD
[03:22] <lifo> but this was my 3rd CD since the morning
[03:22] <monomaniacpat> monomaniacpat: is still here - can anyone answer my query?
[03:22] <LinuxJones> lifo: do you have the beta 2 version released this morning ?
[03:22] <lifo> nop
[03:22] <lifo> 5.10 i guess
[03:23] <monomaniacpat> or what would I google for?
[03:23] <gud_> ok ,here we go, i have followed the guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623, and up to the "make"-part it was going smoth. i read that i had to delete the ieee80211-folder manually, and did so, but then i got another error. story beginning at first "make". http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13020
[03:23] <orbin> monomaniacpat: no wireless people active atm it seems.  have you searched the forum?
[03:23] <monomaniacpat> Yes, but I'll have another look
[03:23] <LinuxJones> lifo: there was a problem with the installer >> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/59650/index.html
[03:23] <gud_> smooth?
[03:24] <IOWAHC> anyone got a solution? monomaniacpat?
[03:24] <lifo> LinuxJones : lemme see
[03:24] <LinuxJones> lifo: is there a text based installer on that cd ?
[03:24] <monomaniacpat> No, sorry - I don't know what your problem is exactly - ?
[03:24] <lifo> nop..I'm not using beta
[03:24] <IOWAHC> My problem is that i can't even ping
[03:24] <lifo> I'm using 5.10 amd64
[03:25] <IOWAHC> configuration should be right
[03:25] <monomaniacpat> I think I have the same problem IOWAHC
[03:25] <lifo> Hey LinuxJones
[03:25] <lifo> looks like it worked the second time
[03:25] <IceTox> do you happened to know the gcc compiler on apt-get?
[03:25] <lifo> I rebooted and repeated
[03:25] <LinuxJones> lifo: sweet :)
[03:25] <LinuxJones> lifo:  Dapper is awesome :)
[03:26] <IOWAHC> i see
[03:26] <lifo> hope it doesnt get stuck again :(
[03:26] <lifo> I'm afraid it will
[03:26] <LinuxJones> lifo:  Let's hope it goes ok
[03:26] <lifo> today doesnt seem to be a good day..
[03:26] <orbin> IceTox: install build-essential
[03:26] <gud_> anyone care to help gud (god)?
[03:27] <IceTox> thanks orbin
[03:27] <slackern> gud_: Where did my yesterdays winning lotto number go?
[03:27] <lifo> ok..looks like it's stuck at "Unpacking lubuuid1" :-s
[03:27] <gud_> il tell you if you help me
[03:27] <gud_> ill
[03:28] <lifo> temme what
[03:28] <IOWAHC> somebody here who can help me please?
[03:30] <gud_> ok ,here we go, i have followed the guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623, and up to the "make"-part it was going smooth. i read that i had to delete the ieee80211-folder manually, and did so, but then i got another error. story beginning at first "make". http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13020
[03:30] <dwa> IOWAHC what's your problem?
[03:31] <vijay> hi all, how to change administrator password?
[03:31] <IOWAHC> dwa: I have a Acer Aspire with a Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Networkcard but can't even ping
[03:31] <dwa> vijay there is none :)
[03:31] <IOWAHC> vijay: passwd root
[03:31] <monomaniacpat> orbin: or anyone - do you know what I should search the forum for exactly?
[03:31] <IOWAHC> sudo passwd root
[03:31] <vijay> IOWAHC:ok
[03:31] <dwa> IOWAHC, does your system even recognize your card?
[03:31] <IOWAHC> yes
[03:32] <dwa> and did it work before?
[03:32] <IOWAHC> configuration should be all right
[03:32] <monomaniacpat> I have all the lights flashing and get a reading from ifconfig, but when I put eth0 down I go offline
[03:32] <IOWAHC> under Ubuntu 5.04 it worked
[03:32] <dwa> are you using dhcp?
[03:32] <IOWAHC> no static IP
[03:32] <orbin> monomaniacpat: shouldn't you have been looking for ubuntu instructions, rather than going off knoppix ones?
[03:33] <painkiler> where can i find the grub config file?
[03:33] <monomaniacpat> well, they work well enough
[03:33] <bienlein> why
[03:33] <monomaniacpat> but yes, I guess so
[03:33] <dwa> and you can't ping your modem/router?
[03:33] <IOWAHC> no
[03:33] <bienlein> why
[03:33] <IOWAHC> it always says Destination Host unreachable
[03:34] <dwa> is your cable connected? ;)
[03:34] <slackern> grub config is at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:34] <IOWAHC> lowl
[03:34] <IOWAHC> yeah.... as far as I see ^
[03:34] <orbin> monomaniacpat: yeah, i don't really know about wireless, but chuck in the card's name as a k/word.  anything useful come up?
[03:34] <dwa> strange..
[03:34] <IOWAHC> i know
[03:34] <ordi09> salut
[03:34] <Pulim> How can I see the content of my NTFS partitions when I'm not logged like Root?
[03:34] <monomaniacpat> Just people who are stuck further back than I am
[03:35] <bienlein> why
[03:35] <HymnToLife> !tell Pulim about ntfs
[03:35] <IOWAHC> I read about similar problems but after reinstall it worked fine.... but it doesn't help mine laptop
[03:35] <monomaniacpat> Pulim: you need to change your permissions
[03:35] <monomaniacpat> try googling it - I can't remember which file you have to access
[03:35] <bienlein> why
[03:36] <orbin> bienlein: because
[03:36] <bienlein> thats no reason
[03:36] <Pulim> monomaniacpat I've tried to change logged like root, but a message appears "the partition is only read, permission canot be changed"
[03:36] <[[Gaara] ] > hello, i have a problem with dualview in mi notebook
[03:36] <IOWAHC> Pulim: /etc/fstab --- mount your NTFS into a local folder with the right permissions and you can see it ^^
[03:37] <dwa> maybe the kernel has a new driver for your card it didn't have in the older distro's
[03:37] <orbin> bienlein: why?
[03:37] <bienlein> orbin: why?
[03:37] <dwa> happened with my wireless pcmcia card, worked first now i need ndiswrapper..
[03:37] <HymnToLife> oh damnit, he's back..
[03:37] <IOWAHC> hmmmm
[03:37] <HymnToLife> !ops
[03:37] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[03:37] <Hobbsee> HymnToLife: ?
[03:38] <Amaranth> what's up?
[03:38] <HymnToLife> the same guy as yesterday, just repeating "why" over and over again
[03:38] <dwa> IOWAHC, 0000:02:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705M Gigabit Ethernet (rev 01) <- i've got the same thing in my laptop haha
[03:38] <dwa> didnt even know tha
[03:38] <dwa> that
[03:38] <IOWAHC> exactly
[03:38] <Amaranth> bienlein: are you a person or a bot?
[03:38] <IOWAHC> and yours is working?
[03:38] <bienlein> what is a bot
[03:38] <dwa> jup, using it now
[03:39] <IOWAHC> what driver are you using?
[03:39] <dr_dex> anyone have pointers as to why mod_perl2 in ubuntu 5.10 server has lots of segmentation faults? mod_perl1.99 on debian sarge is more or less stable, but mod_perl2 on breezy is unusable (tested on several machines)?
[03:39] <dwa> tg3
[03:39] <IOWAHC> where can I check it?
[03:39] <bienlein> what is a bot
[03:39] <IOWAHC> which driver i am using
[03:39] <mattm591> hi, i have dapper set up and was experimenting with xgl but it all went a bit wrong and now i cant load x. when i boot ubuntu i see a black screen and the please wait mouse cursor for a second and then it goes and im taken to a console session, when i try ctrl f7 all i see is a black screen with a cursor at the top right. can anyone help me get back x working i tried dpkge-reconfigure xserver-whatever the command was but that didnt work :(
[03:40] <bienlein> what is a bot
[03:40] <dwa> you can do lsmod|grep tg3 to see if you use the same
[03:40] <orbin> HymnToLife: at least he's asking something else now :P
[03:40] <dwa> not sure how to check wich one you're currently using
[03:40] <HymnToLife> yeah indeed lol
[03:40] <munzir> Hi, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver says to disable the logo add "NoLogo". My problem is the logo doesn't show to me, how can I make it show?
[03:40] <Amaranth> mattm591: how did you setup xgl?
[03:40] <Amaranth> mattm591: what instructions did you follow?
[03:40] <bienlein> why don't you answer the uestion, then I'm gone
[03:40] <orbin> bienlein: i did already
[03:41] <IOWAHC> tg3 is here.... but I guess he didn't use it *g*
[03:41] <Amaranth> bienlein: a bot is a program that joins IRC and does things
[03:41] <[alejandro] > mattm5951 if you used symlinks, fix the symlinks
[03:41] <Pulim> [IOWAHC] : the partitions are already mount, i just need to edit de fstab now to change the permissions?
[03:41] <Amaranth> bienlein: ubotu is a bot, for example
[03:41] <Amaranth> !ubotu
[03:41] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[03:41] <[[Gaara] ] > hello again, i fall in. I have a problem with the dualview in my notebook, who can help me?
[03:41] <mattm591> Amaranth> i used the ones from the wiki (i'll find a link hang on)
[03:41] <Mantice> Any one know any thing about PSU's ???
[03:41] <IOWAHC> Pulim: I don't really know if it is possible to change the rights for a NTFS partition mounted....
[03:41] <IOWAHC> sorry
[03:42] <dwa> IOWAHC, i have to go, sorry i can't help you with your problem
[03:42] <[[Gaara] ] > (any web for dualview?
[03:42] <IOWAHC> np dwa
[03:42] <IOWAHC> thx
[03:42] <mattm591> i used this first, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto and then changed to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NestedXglHowto as i thought that wouildnt replace the x session
[03:42] <Mantice> Would a 250w PSU power a 700 Mhz computer + Cd rom and HDD ?
[03:42] <mattm591> mantice: should do
[03:43] <slackern> Mantice: Yes unless something is wrong.
[03:43] <Mantice> I need to know that it will work
[03:43] <mattm591> mantice: ok it will :P
[03:43] <Mantice> ok cool
[03:43] <Mantice> :) :) I currently have a killer psu in my box at the moment
[03:43] <Mantice> I can control the fan speed :) Eramax is the best
[03:44] <dr_dex> it's not the hardware, have tested memory with memtest and if I switch to CGI mode everything works as a charm (only slower)
[03:44] <IOWAHC> dwa still here?
[03:45] <[alejandro] > you know I tried XGL myself and I broke something
[03:45] <IOWAHC> anyone got a Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit networkcard?
[03:45] <[alejandro] > whenever I use something that is fullscreen and changes the resolution I get a kernel panic
[03:45] <[alejandro] > what the heck people
[03:46] <mattm591> all i want to do is get x back :( is there maybe a way to reset it? or reinstall it
[03:46] <Mantice> 700 mhz and 128 whole mb of sd ram will run ubuntu fine
[03:46] <Mantice> right???
[03:46] <HymnToLife> 233 MHz and 32 MB RAM will run it too
[03:46] <HymnToLife> in command line mode :p
[03:46] <Amaranth> mattm591: sorry, was helping someone else, looking now
[03:46] <mattm591> amaranth: ty
[03:47] <byen_> Mantice, yu might want to try XFCE or Fluxbox if you want it to run decent
[03:47] <Amaranth> mattm591: you did sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xgl /etc/X11/X?
[03:47] <mattm591> amaranth: yup
[03:47] <Amaranth> mattm591: Ok, then, do sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xorg /usr/X11/X
[03:47] <freezey> problem with Pure-FTPD if anyone can assist
[03:47] <mattm591> amaranth: ok brb
[03:48] <AnsiC> in menu.lst ROOT mean wher is the partition wher the kernel is installed
[03:48] <pepo> i need something special for use WPA on my WIFI?
[03:48] <HymnToLife> !anymone
[03:48] <ubotu> HymnToLife: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:48] <AnsiC> or the partition to mount at boottime?
[03:48] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[03:48] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[03:49] <AnsiC> ubuntu is installed in hda2 the kernel is installed in /boot of ubuntu
[03:49] <AnsiC> but i want to boot hda3
[03:49] <mattm591> amaranth: nope, no luck
[03:49] <livingdaylight> Hello people
[03:49] <Mantice> Gnome will be a bit slow right, It cant be as bad as runing windows xp on 300 mhz, and that was fine
[03:49] <livingdaylight> anyone, know about nanocaster and ripping from the radio?
[03:50] <CanadianSnow> im trying to install the new firefox but when i go to update the libs or w.e it wants the CD, how do I get it to not ask for CD?
[03:50] <Amaranth> !doesn't work
[03:50] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[03:50] <Amaranth> mattm591: I would need xorg longs
[03:50] <Amaranth> err, log
[03:50] <mattm591> canadiansnow: remove it from the list of repositories
[03:50] <Amaranth> mattm591: Please join #ubuntu+1, that's the place for dapper help
[03:50] <mattm591> amaranth: how do i get that?
[03:50] <CanadianSnow> i forget how....
[03:50] <livingdaylight> anyone know STEAMTUNER?
[03:50] <mattm591> amaranth: i thoguht i was in ubuntu+1
[03:50] <mattm591> amaranth: sorry i'll change
[03:50] <HymnToLife> CanadianSnow> comment out the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:51] <livingdaylight> STREAMTUNER
[03:51] <HymnToLife> !caps
[03:51] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[03:51] <livingdaylight> using Streamtuner to listen to live365
[03:51] <livingdaylight> it has a record function
[03:51] <livingdaylight> and it uses NANOCASTER to record
[03:51] <CanadianSnow> thx hym
[03:51] <livingdaylight> but i don't know where it is saved to?
[03:52] <CanadianSnow> and how do i get the fm radio thing going?
[03:52] <livingdaylight> hymntolife, instead of telling me that i'm rude why not help?
[03:53] <HymnToLife> livingdaylight> be cause I do not know
[03:53] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how i might find nanocaster?
[03:54] <CanadianSnow> ummmm hymntolife how do i fix it again? what part of that file?
[03:54] <livingdaylight> hymntolife is t e l l i n g peop le to no t ca pit alize an automatic re action li ke press ssing a button?
[03:55] <HymnToLife> livingdaylight> are you trying to be funny ?
[03:55] <HymnToLife> CanadianSnow> add a # at the begining of the line mentioning the cdrom
[03:55] <livingdaylight> Does someone know the command for searching something in the command line?
[03:55] <livingdaylight> is it cache search or something?
< when i'll go to edit fstab i'll need to be logged like root?
[03:55] <CanadianSnow> livingdaylight what are you doing? and what are you doing here? if u want help then ask for it, if u wanna argue with people, find another place to do that plz thx
[03:56] <HymnToLife> !tell Pulim about sudo
[03:56] <noiesmo> livingdaylight, most apps use either /tmp or they have a .blah folder
[03:56] <livingdaylight> CanadianSnow: my question is very clear and there for the record, can you read?
[03:56] <orbin> livingdaylight: locate <filename>
[03:56] <orbin> livingdaylight: apt-cache search <keywords> for packages
[03:56] <livingdaylight> orbin, thx
[03:56] <CanadianSnow> I didn't feel like reading it
[03:56] <livingdaylight> noiesmo thx too
[03:57] <livingdaylight> orbin, would nanocaster be a package, yes, no?
[03:57] <CanadianSnow> thx hymn again
[03:57] <orbin> livingdaylight: as for nanocaster, i can't find anything in the repos.  if you're asking where streamtuner saves stuff, i suggest reading the docs
[03:57] <CanadianSnow> anyone know how to change the keys on the keyboard?
[03:57] <livingdaylight> CanadianSnow then why do you ask what i'm doing here
[03:58] <livingdaylight> CanandianSnow then i ask what are you doing here?
[03:58] <megadeth> we speake spanish?
[03:58] <CanadianSnow> because u seem like u just wanna argue
[03:58] <HymnToLife> !es
[03:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:58] <livingdaylight> CanadianSnow i think you just wanted to join in the arguemnt; were you feeling left out?
[03:58] <XiXaQ> is there any way to verify the installation cd when running a system from a live-cd? I only have one cd device.
[03:58] <CanadianSnow> and u spelt it right the first time
[03:58] <orbin> CanadianSnow: xkeycaps maybe
[03:59] <CanadianSnow> use that as a command in a term?
[03:59] <megadeth> who are your country
[03:59] <HymnToLife> XiXaQ> I don't think there is, use another box
[03:59] <megadeth> de donde eres ubuntu?
[03:59] <CanadianSnow> (Canada)
[03:59] <fapeg> hi
[03:59] <orbin> XiXaQ: yeah, that would be a problem wouldn't it?  i think you can verify the iso ... not sure though
[04:00] <orbin> megadeth: are you spanish?
[04:00] <megadeth> who are you... i am chilean...
[04:00] <megadeth> soy chileno
[04:00] <livingdaylight> orbin, thx again, i did sudo apt-cache Nanocaster but it came back as invalid operation
[04:00] <XiXaQ> HymnToLife, I don't have another box. and I no longer have an installed operating system, cause I tried to install ubuntu yesterday and the installation crashed.. :(
[04:00] <HymnToLife> ow that's bad
[04:01] <HymnToLife> at a friend's maybe ?
[04:01] <livingdaylight> orbin, what docs?
[04:01] <CanadianSnow> uh, hymn, do i have to close the term i had running before for it to save?
[04:01] <XiXaQ> HymnToLife, the ISO is correct and Nero verified the CD as being recorded correctly. Still, the installation halts everytime I try to install. I have a TV-card installed. Think I should uninstall it first?
[04:01] <livingdaylight> orbin, or where?
[04:01] <snowblink> livingdaylight, apt-cache search nanocaster
[04:01] <HymnToLife> which app did you edit the file in ?
[04:02] <megadeth> for all users from linux xD or ubuntu my meil is demonkiller14@hotmail.com
[04:02] <orbin> livingdaylight: look for /usr/share/doc/streamtuner ... or the help menu maybe. (i've never used the app)
[04:02] <HymnToLife> XiXaQ> I don't think the TV card matters, I have one ant the install worked perfectly with it
[04:02] <livingdaylight> snowblink, oops : )
[04:02] <HymnToLife> megadeth> I hope you have a good antispam
[04:02] <livingdaylight> orbin, ok
[04:02] <orbin> livingdaylight: and you needed to do apt-cache *search*
[04:02] <eric__> Wooo.  Help with Xchat, someone?
[04:03] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[04:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[04:03] <livingdaylight> orbin, yeah! sorry, i snowblink told me
[04:03] <orbin> eric__: just ask.  there's also #xchat
[04:03] <CanadianSnow> hymn i used g-edit and it said it saved
[04:03] <orbin> livingdaylight: yeah, missed that. sorry
[04:03] <CanadianSnow> and i opened it from sudo natulius or w.e
[04:03] <eric__> How do I change the default usernames for xchat?
[04:03] <livingdaylight> orbin, when i do that i just get the prompt back
[04:03] <HymnToLife> then it's ok, if youre back to the prompt, it wa ssved
[04:03] <orbin> eric__: xchat>servlist>edit
[04:04] <selinium> any compiling gurus about?
[04:04] <livingdaylight> Hymntolife: were you talking to me?
[04:04] <HymnToLife> no
[04:04] <orbin> eric__: or just xchat>serverlist
[04:04] <CanadianSnow> k....
[04:04] <orbin> can someone paste my quit line please?
[04:04] <CanadianSnow> so should i close the old term i was trying to update with?
[04:04] <eddie_stone> lol
[04:04] <livingdaylight> orbin, if i've apt-cache searched and i get the prompt back what does that indicate?
[04:04] <HymnToLife> orbin > "Leaving"
[04:04] <GazzaK> * orbin has quit ("Leaving")
[04:04] <livingdaylight> snoblink: do you know?
[04:04] <eric__> Thanks, Orbin.
[04:04] <orbin> HymnToLife, GazzaK : thanks.
[04:05] <eddie_stone> orbin: "I'm gay"
[04:05] <CanadianSnow> caz i was trying to update firefox and it wanted cd,  so i opened another term and edited the sources.list
[04:05] <Amaranth> orbin: You have to be here 5 minutes before you're quit message shows, iirc.
[04:05] <Amaranth> orbin: Otherwise it's the default mesage.
[04:05] <Amaranth> s/you're/your/
[04:05] <HymnToLife> CanadianSnow> you won't get firefox updates from apt-get
[04:05] <livingdaylight> HymnToLife: by the way too many Capitalizations in your name for my liking
[04:05] <HymnToLife> !tell CanadianSnow about ff1.5
[04:05] <orbin> Amaranth: oh?  just asking 'cos i got disconnected
[04:05] <eddie_stone> I wanna some help about installing jude
[04:05] <CanadianSnow> i knoe im doing it from the site
[04:05] <orbin> Amaranth: wondering what happened
[04:05] <kroisis> anybody using ispconfig or know of a channel with support/devel questions capability on it?
[04:06] <CanadianSnow> but it wants to update from cd:S
[04:06] <selinium> !tell CanadianSnow about ff1.5
[04:06] <HymnToLife> CanadianSnow> what exactly does it want to update
[04:07] <GazzaK> orbin, can you do the same here? (tell me what my /quit is)
[04:07] <bienlein> why
[04:07] <orbin> * GazzaK (n=Gary@host81-133-4-167.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has left #ubuntu ("bored, going to play with electricity")
[04:07] <bienlein> why
[04:07] <HymnToLife> damnit
[04:07] <HymnToLife> !ops
[04:07] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[04:08] <CanadianSnow> well im at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompileFirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29  and i tried the first thing it said
[04:08] <orbin> GazzaK: why'd you ask though..you obviosuly set it yourself :)
[04:08] <toresbe> selinium: Isn't it "selenium"?
[04:08] <bienlein> why
[04:08] <eric__> After hibernation or screen lock, typing in my password gives me "denied", password is correct.
[04:08] <dabaR> HymnToLife: are you stupid? Amaranth is here...
[04:08] <CanadianSnow> and it updated fine for a while but then it keep wanting the CD
[04:08] <eric__> And forces a restart to login properly.
[04:08] <Amaranth> dabaR: !ops still helps, I was watching another channel
[04:08] <GazzaK> orbin, got two, one for a /quit and one for a leave
[04:08] <HymnToLife> dabaR> I'm so terribly sorry I don't keep trace of all people active on a 700 People channel...
[04:09] <eric__> 710.
[04:09] <eric__> =D
[04:09] <selinium> toresbe, it can be either, I have seen it as both. anyway (putting my geek hat on) it was the name of a roleplay character I had 15 years ago!
[04:09] <CanadianSnow> so for now i just closed that term and opened another one and am gonna try it again
[04:09] <livingdaylight> orbin: i got the prompt back after doing apt-cache search nanocaster
[04:09] <eric__> Roleplay character, what?
[04:09] <livingdaylight> orbin, does that mean it is there or not?
[04:09] <toresbe> selinium: I see.
[04:09] <CanadianSnow> 700ish
[04:09] <orbin> livingdaylight: that means it couldn't find anything
[04:09] <eric__> I opened a site based on PBP RP.  =)  http://gwing.net
[04:09] <livingdaylight> orbin, ok
[04:10] <dabaR> HymnToLife: what did you want?
[04:10] <livingdaylight> orbin, wonder why streamtuner when i click record, says nanocaster ripping in the CLI?
[04:10] <orbin> livingdaylight: dunno, like i said, never used the app
[04:11] <eric__> How should I edit xorg.conf to change my resolution?
[04:11] <CanadianSnow> and its aperently working so ya
[04:11] <CanadianSnow> thx gain
[04:11] <orbin> !tell eric__ about fixres
[04:12] <HymnToLife> eric__> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:12] <eric__> orbin: already there
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> does anyone know much about the "FM-Radio Tuner"? ?
[04:12] <freezey> Pure-FTPD? Anyone can help me out on this?
[04:12] <dabaR> freezey: you have to ask a specific questiob
[04:13] <overrider> what would be the preferred software to use, if you want to provide / synchronize user accounts over different platforms and for different services, eg. mail, samba and maybe even login to pc. openldap?
[04:13] <orbin> CanadianSnow: rather vague.  what's the name of the app itself?
[04:13] <overrider> i only want to add the user on one server instead of one time one each
[04:13] <freezey> dabar: just in general is there even a .conf file?
[04:13] <orbin> eric__: not helping?
[04:14] <CanadianSnow> that is the name of the app itselfd
[04:14] <dabaR> freezey: yes, in /etc
[04:14] <CanadianSnow> itself*
[04:14] <freezey> dabar: i can't find it tho
[04:14] <CanadianSnow> its under sound and video on my thing
[04:15] <orbin> CanadianSnow: what's the name of the executable?
[04:15] <CanadianSnow> "thing" being the application... menu
[04:15] <orbin> CanadianSnow: you running dapper?
[04:15] <CanadianSnow> no??
[04:15] <CanadianSnow> im on ubuntu.... i donno what dapper is
[04:16] <orbin> weird. i dont't have any radio tuner in my menu
[04:16] <HymnToLife> !dapper
[04:16] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:16] <CanadianSnow> ok, when its open it sais its "Gnomeradio"
[04:17] <CanadianSnow> k no :p
[04:17] <freezey> dabar:  u know the name of the file?
[04:17] <CanadianSnow> Im not even sure why im trying to get the radio going when the sound isn't even working
[04:17] <orbin> CanadianSnow: type cat /etc/issue in a terminal please
[04:18] <CanadianSnow> thats probably why it wont work
[04:18] <orbin> CanadianSnow: yeah, that's probably why :)
[04:18] <monomaniacpat> Hello - can anyone help me to ping my wireless card, so I know it's working?
[04:18] <CanadianSnow> command not found?
[04:19] <eric__> how to restart the x server?
[04:19] <orbin> CanadianSnow: paste the full command you used?
[04:19] <CanadianSnow> nm forgot the cat
[04:19] <CanadianSnow> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[04:19] <orbin> eric__: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:19] <IOWAHC> Question @ all.... in /lib/modules/<something>/ there has to be a directory called build
[04:20] <IOWAHC> or?
[04:20] <orbin> so does anyone else have this supposed radio tuner in breezy?
[04:20] <freezey> dabar: do u know the name of the file?
[04:21] <CanadianSnow> I think i got it from "Add applications"
[04:21] <freezey> does anyone know the name of the .conf file for Pure-FTPD
[04:21] <IOWAHC> Question @ all.... in /lib/modules/<something>/ there has to be a directory called build....right?
[04:21] <CanadianSnow> that or the Package Manager
[04:22] <CanadianSnow> donno iowahc
[04:22] <IOWAHC> can you look please....
[04:22] <IOWAHC> is it there?
[04:22] <CanadianSnow> i would guess no for "HAS to be"
[04:22] <IOWAHC> sorry
[04:22] <void^> IOWAHC: if kernel sources are installed it should be a symlink to them
[04:22] <IOWAHC> my english is not the best
[04:23] <moot_> IOWAHC: that directory usually contains the kernel module subdirectories
[04:23] <Talix> Achtung ein nook hat ne frage
[04:23] <IOWAHC> how to install the sources
[04:23] <CanadianSnow> your english is fine to me
[04:23] <moot_> IOWAHC: atp-get install <source>
[04:24] <IceTox> Anyone here have experienced a problem using Skype in ubuntu before? It works all good with me, but after a call I need to restart the program in order to get the sound card working in the program
[04:24] <Talix> ich hab ubuntu installiert und mchte nun die bootreihenfolge ndern, ich bekomm das mit den zugriffsrechten in entsprechender datei aber nicht hin
[04:24] <IOWAHC> moot.... yeah.... but what package?
[04:24] <orbin> !de
[04:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:24] <IOWAHC> ubuntu?
[04:25] <IOWAHC> apt-get install source ubuntu?
[04:25] <idefix__> why can't I get a manual for EasyCam2 which I just installed?
[04:25] <moot_> IOWAHC: do a cache search for it. apt-cache search <package name>
[04:25] <CanadianSnow> btw IOWAHC I only have 2 folders in there and they are just numbers
[04:25] <[alejandro] > oh no
[04:25] <[alejandro] > IOWAHC what you want to do is edit the repos, right?
[04:25] <billytwowilly_> ok, so how do I un screw up the interface for x-chat in dapper? Holy crap is it ugly...
[04:25] <IOWAHC> the what?
[04:25] <IOWAHC> repos =
[04:26] <CanadianSnow> ICE it worked fine for me before...
[04:26] <[alejandro] > like mulitverse and universe
[04:26] <billytwowilly_> I want the original xchat interface because it was WAY better than the new one..
[04:26] <[alejandro] > where the packages come from
[04:26] <CanadianSnow> I dont have it on this one caz the sound card is not working on ubuntu\
[04:26] <idefix__> do you need EasyCam2 for the program webcam?
[04:26] <[alejandro] > billytwowilly_ you can install the original xchat
[04:26] <CanadianSnow> icetox
[04:27] <IOWAHC> i want to install the source package of Linux to have a directory called buidl in /lib/modules/xxxxxxx/ *g*
[04:27] <billytwowilly_> [alejandro] :  where would I get that? only xchat-gnome show up when I search xchat in synaptic..
[04:27] <IceTox> yes CanadianSnow ?
[04:27] <CanadianSnow> u get what i said?:p
[04:27] <IceTox> CanadianSnow, ok.. well, the sound card is working good here, but skype makes some problems now and then though..
[04:28] <[alejandro] > IOWAHC I think it is linux-kernel-(arch)-sources or something
[04:29] <[alejandro] > IOWAHC look around in synaptic
[04:29] <IOWAHC> hmmm i would love to.... but i need a working driver for my graphic card and one for my network ^^
[04:30] <IOWAHC> apt-cache search should do it
[04:30] <IOWAHC> iguess or?
[04:30] <[alejandro] > IOWAHC aptitude
[04:30] <oxez> hi, with Alacarte I remmber I have hidden the 'Games' menu by hiding all it's entries, now it looks like I can't get that menu back?
[04:30] <[alejandro] > IOWAHC you can browse packages with that
[04:30] <Amaranth> oxez: You have to unhide the entries
[04:30] <oxez> Amaranth: I did
[04:30] <moot_> IOWAHC: i get kernel-source-2.4.27 from apt-cache search. you will probably get a different version though
[04:31] <Amaranth> oxez: Did you try checking the menu to show it too?
[04:31] <oxez> yes
[04:31] <oxez> well, you can't check the menu
[04:31] <Amaranth> oxez: Does alacarte say Games is shown?
[04:31] <oxez> It's in small font, italic
[04:31] <Amaranth> ok
[04:31] <Shigutso> I installed Ubuntu choosing to get the pt-br translation, but after the instalation show me an strange error, my Ubunt here is half english/half brazillian! What should I do? I couldn't find the pt-br language pack in the repositories...
[04:31] <Amaranth> oxez: I think you'll have to hit the "revert" button.
[04:31] <Amaranth> oxez: It'll lose all your changes.
[04:32] <oxez> oh
[04:32] <oxez> ALright thanks Amaranth
[04:32] <Spofer> How do i run BIN files?
[04:32] <nerdz> hi people, i installed ubuntu 5.10 and everytime i start the computer, it freezes "installing programs" at 5% and i can't use apt anymore, does anyone know how to fix it?
[04:32] <Amaranth> Spofer: chmod +x <file>.bin && ./<file>.bin
[04:33] <Spofer> Amaranth, where can i find info on those subjects?
[04:33] <moot_> bin files aren't usually executable
[04:33] <moot_> they are usually image files
[04:33] <Spofer> That's the java installation
[04:34] <Spofer> does the ./ mean extract?
[04:34] <Plitskin> darn solaris users... Bunch of technology slaved idiots... :-(
[04:34] <hyphenated> moot_: .bin and .run are common extensions used by closed-source apps for linux
[04:34] <orbin> Spofer: follow the wiki page
[04:34] <Spofer> oh
[04:34] <hyphenated> Spofer: no, it's just specifying the path to the executable program
[04:34] <Spofer> why can't just write the filename?
[04:35] <ZoomCities> has anyone here setup Ubuntu on a Mac
[04:35] <bitotob> is there anyway for me to stop my isp from reasinging me a new ip every 20 mins
[04:35] <hyphenated> Spofer: because 'named' programs will look things up in your PATH environment variable
[04:36] <Crescendo> Resolution is... sudo dpkg-reconfigure ?????
[04:36] <hyphenated> Spofer: since your home directory isn't in the PATH environment variable, you have to specify where it is :-)
[04:36] <Spofer> that makes sense, thx :)
[04:36] <hyphenated> Crescendo: xserver-xorg
[04:36] <hyphenated> !resolution
[04:36] <ubotu> methinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:36] <ubuntu_> hello
[04:37] <IOWAHC> ok moot.... i know how to install the source now,.... but how will i manage to bypass my problem, that i have no working Internet connection from this laptop :P
[04:37] <Shigutso> I installed Ubuntu choosing to get the pt-br translation, but after the instalation show me an strange error, my Ubunt here is half english/half brazillian! What should I do? I couldn't find the pt-br language pack in the repositories...
[04:37] <IOWAHC> the laptop which stands next to me.... *g* not this machine
[04:37] <ZoomCities> i guess no one has tried install Ubuntu to a Mac here
[04:38] <ketsugi> Install, no
[04:38] <bitotob> i've been trying to do a netboot with ubuntu...but thius is impossible becuase my isp relicenses my ip addresss every 20 minutes
[04:38] <ketsugi> I did run the breezy livecd on a mac mini, though
[04:38] <ZoomCities> how did u go with that ketsugi
[04:38] <ZoomCities> no problems?
[04:39] <plipo> He hallo,is er iemand die me even kan helpen met iets installeren onder ubuntu?
[04:39] <ketsugi> no problems
[04:39] <IOWAHC> !nl
[04:39] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[04:39] <orbin> Shigutso: perhaps ask in #ubuntu-br
[04:39] <ketsugi> I had to do it to repair the partition table for my laptop's hdd
[04:39] <Shigutso> orbin, ok... thx
[04:40] <ZoomCities> hmm coz one of the member of our community is only getting a Video problem in his Ubuntu installation to a Mac
[04:40] <ZoomCities> maybe you guys can give him a hand, http://www.zoomcities.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=161 that will be appreciated. it will be good to get this working
[04:40] <plipo> dank u
[04:41] <tomveens> hi
[04:41] <IOWAHC> anyone here with a kernel bigger than 2.5.8 and who wants to build a driver for me? *g*
[04:42] <tomveens> I want to capture video material from a camcorder but kino says I have to load raw1394, how do I do that?
[04:42] <orbin> ZoomCities: what video driver is he currentyl using?
[04:43] <HymnToLife> tomveens> my guess is sudo modprobe raw1394
[04:43] <HymnToLife> but wait for someone more knowledgeable to confirm
[04:43] <freezey> does anyone know a good GUI based FTP-Server"
[04:44] <kingspawn> tomveens: HymnToLife is correct
[04:44] <Hoxzer> what is good program for monitoring CPU usage via SSH?
[04:44] <tr1gg3r> hi anyone using the proprietary ati driver with an x1400?  just curious if it works well or there are any issues
[04:44] <orbin> Hoxzer: top
[04:44] <orbin> tr1gg3r: lol, ati's under linux are a pain in general
[04:45] <orbin> ubotu: tell tr1gg3r about hardware
[04:45] <orbin> try there
[04:45] <orbin> you could search the forum too
[04:45] <[A] ndy80> hello
[04:46] <orbin> ZoomCities: you there?
[04:46] <tr1gg3r> orbin, thats whats ive read from googling it, but the lappy im looking at doesnt come with nvidia, so i thought id try to get the input of someone whos used ati
[04:46] <ZoomCities> yes orbin
[04:46] <[A] ndy80> I'm trying to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy, but I always get this error: Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdevelop3-data_4%3a3.2.3-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[04:46] <[A] ndy80> how can I fix it please?
[04:46] <orbin> ZoomCities: tell him if he isn't already, to try the vesa driver
[04:46] <Seveas> [A] ndy80, complete error output on the pastebin please
[04:47] <orbin> s/isn't/hasn't
[04:47] <tomveens> does it mean I have to restart my computer because kino is still saying it
[04:47] <[A] ndy80> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/687075
[04:48] <ZoomCities> thanks orbin
[04:48] <tomveens> kino says 'The IEEE 1394 subsystem is not responding'
[04:49] <Seveas> [A] ndy80, file a bug on kdevelop with that output, severity major since it breaks upgrades
[04:49] <tomveens> and 'The raw1394 module must be loaded, and you must have read and write accessto /dev/raw1394
[04:50] <tomveens> is that strange?
[04:50] <Spofer> I'm trying to install java to be used by my firefox
[04:50] <Spofer> but i can't quite get it to work
[04:51] <tomveens> first loaded the module like you sayd and the I chmod 660
[04:51] <Spofer> I've extracted the java bin file to /usr/java, but now what?
[04:51] <kingspawn> tomveens: well that does not ensure that your user can access /dec/raw1394
[04:51] <orbin> Spofer: are you following the restricted formats wiki page?
[04:52] <Spofer> no, didn't know about that one
[04:52] <Spofer> !restrictedformats
[04:52] <ubotu> restrictedformats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:52] <n00b> anybody tried installing gnome 2.15.1 via garnome on breezy?
[04:52] <Spofer> ok, ill read it and'll be back, thanks!
[04:53] <tomveens> so I have to chmod 777?
[04:53] <tomveens> or maybe install dvgrab or is kino enough?
[04:54] <kingspawn> tomveens: first off, start kino with gksudo and try what your are doing
[04:55] <kingspawn> tomveens: just to double check that it actually is a permissions-thing
[04:56] <[A] ndy80> Seveas: I reported the bug on Malone on Launchpad... is it ok?
[04:56] <tomveens> I think it is a permission thing because i did 777 and he did not say it anymore and he has a device
[04:56] <Seveas> [A] ndy80, yep
[04:56] <[A] ndy80> Seveas: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop3/+bug/41908
[04:56] <tomveens> let's try to capture something
[04:56] <[A] ndy80> ok, thanks
[04:57] <[A] ndy80> Seveas: n.b: I tried to upgrade from hoary to dapper too, same error.
[04:57] <tomveens> I can give command to the camcorder from my computer
[04:58] <MystaMax> hello, i was wondering w/ proftpd what role does the "User nobody" and and "group nobody" have in the proftpd.conf file???
[04:58] <verdee> hi everyone
[04:58] <MystaMax> is this what writes to the folders?
[04:58] <israel>   downloads Firefox  ----->     http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/FireFox7.htm
[04:59] <MystaMax> anyone?
[05:00] <es_> hi
[05:00] <es_> ist hier jemand?
[05:01] <kingspawn> !de
[05:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[05:02] <verdee> i need somebody using ubuntu on a ppc, i need a pair of files :) /var/lib/dpkg/{status, available}
[05:04] <tomveens> It works ownly is my computer to slow
[05:04] <chuenjiksatsauco> hey ppl, respect 4 all.......
[05:04] <soundray> It's great to see how quiet it is, here. Ubuntu doesn't generate support queries anymore! ;)
[05:04] <chuenjiksatsauco> I have a client server bug
[05:04] <srborlongan> hi, any Filipinos available?
[05:04] <chuenjiksatsauco> can anyone help me
[05:05] <ZoomCities> pare
[05:05] <kingspawn> soundray: you wish
[05:05] <stravin> he. sorry to bother, but I always get Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key error msg when trying to start the ssh deamon in debian... still, my rsa key exists and has been generated, the file premission is set to 600 and ... well problem occurs
[05:05] <srborlongan> riiiiight, one noypi so far.
[05:05] <Spofer> Anyone using Sun Java on amd64?
[05:05] <Seveas> verdee, those files are very specific to each system...
[05:05] <Spofer> !amd64
[05:05] <ubotu> Spofer: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:05] <Seveas> stravin, #debian
[05:05] <void^> i think this place will be overrun when they release dapper; from what i've seen it's 100% bleeding edge
[05:06] <soundray> Spofer: yes.
[05:06] <stravin> Seveas: well, actually I'm on ubuntu.
[05:06] <soundray> Spofer: only for the occasional applet on the web, though. And NIH ImageJ runs.
[05:06] <Seveas> stravin, " when trying to start the ssh deamon in debian" is not Ubuntu 
[05:06] <srborlongan> dapper xubuntu, in fact, is actually quite good. And lightweight.
[05:07] <srborlongan> (I'm on Ubuntu 5.10)
[05:07] <chuenjiksatsauco> I have DHCP activated but my IP never changes......any idea?
[05:07] <Spofer> soundray: did you download the  jre-1_5_0_06-linux-amd64.bin file?
[05:07] <srborlongan> but isn't ubuntu derived from debian testing/unstable?
[05:07] <Seveas> chuenjiksatsauco, sounds like your dhcp server simply gives the same address repeatedly
[05:08] <eat> aer
[05:08] <Seveas> srborlongan, sure, but lots of things are changed (some for the better, some not)
[05:08] <soundray> chuenjiksatsauco: that's a good thing, though, isn't it?
[05:08] <chip42> chuenjiksatsauco: you have a dhcp release that is unrenewed... every time you bring it up with dhcp, the adapter reverts back to the old lease because it has yet to expire
[05:08] <GazzaK> damn, chip42 just answered!
[05:08] <stravin> Seveas: Well, for any other thing I tried, debian config worked. But anyways, the question is general.
[05:08] <kIOsk> there is this website with all listed raid controller which shows if they are software raid via bios or real hardware raid are
[05:08] <kIOsk> anyone knows the url ???
[05:08] <chuenjiksatsauco> can I stop this behaviour?
[05:09] <stravin> (understanding of ssh )
[05:09] <GazzaK> also DHCP will often renew with the same IP address when it does expire
[05:09] <DoctorMO> hey all, lots of issues with this machine I'm building for my landlady
[05:09] <chuenjiksatsauco> thanks
[05:09] <chuenjiksatsauco> but I dont like that
[05:10] <DoctorMO> nvidia chipsets through and through, it has a eth port but nothing in lspci and it's got no GUI as of yet, installed is Ubuntu 5.10pre
[05:10] <GazzaK> what are you getting the DHCP address from?  ISP?
[05:10] <chip42> chuenjiksatsauco: you can modify he dhcp server and change the length of the leases.. that will cause them to expire a lot faster at least and thus change more often.. but Gazzak is right. no guarentee it won't turn around and hand you the same address
[05:10] <osfameron> !java
[05:10] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:10] <soundray> DoctorMO: what's 5.10pre?
[05:11] <GazzaK> chip42, chuenjiksatsauco might be getting the IP lease from the ISP, in that case he/she will be unable to alter the lease time...
[05:11] <DoctorMO> soundray: ubuntu 5.10 before the final version, it's all I had
[05:11] <chuenjiksatsauco> because I have to reset my modem and can't share my connection
[05:11] <verdee> Seveas: i know that those files are specific, but i'm doing an experiment
[05:11] <soundray> DoctorMO: can you at least upgrade the kernel?
[05:12] <Seveas> verdee, ok, then hopefully someone answers (I'm not on ppc, so I'm useless)
[05:12] <bliss1_> hi
[05:12] <bliss1_> Seveas: forgive me for being rude last time we chatted
[05:13] <chip42> GazzaK: now that i think about it, you are right .. better to assume they aren't the ones running the server.. i mean who complains about the settings on their own daemons.. not someone who can do something about it ;)
[05:13] <DoctorMO> soundray: without a network connection?
[05:13] <djk_> what do i need to install to program with gtk?
[05:13] <orbin> djk_: what app?
[05:13] <verdee> Seveas: thank you anyway
[05:13] <MystaMax> hello, i was wondering w/ proftpd what role does the "User nobody" and and "group nobody" have in the proftpd.conf file???
[05:13] <soundray> DoctorMO: you're in the UK? pm me and I'll send you one of my ShipIt CD sets.
[05:14] <bliss1_> soundray: hi how's life?
[05:14] <GazzaK> chip42, I am still learning Linux, but at least this is one subject I can actually help with :) thanks for the agreement :)
[05:14] <chuenjiksatsauco> chip42:  how can modify he dhcp server and change the length of the leases?
[05:14] <soundray> bliss1_: doors of perception blocked by hayfever.
[05:15] <bliss1_> soundray: dam that pollen
[05:15] <soundray> bliss1_: did we chat before?
[05:15] <chip42> chuenjiksatsauco: dhcpd.conf ... i am afraid it doesn't get any easier than trudging through a config file while consulting the manual for syntax
[05:15] <bliss1_> soundray: maybe
[05:15] <GazzaK> chuenjiksatsauco, is the DHCP server under his control?
[05:15] <void^> !de
[05:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[05:15] <verdee> !it
[05:15] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:15] <verdee> wow
[05:16] <MystaMax> anyone?
[05:16] <mveers> hi
[05:16] <MystaMax> hi
[05:16] <chuenjiksatsauco> Gazzak: non, isn't....
[05:17] <chuenjiksatsauco> chip42:  i gonna try...
[05:17] <kingspawn> MystaMax: nobody is a kind of "meta"-user that has no login shells and no rights, but is well suited for use in such a case
[05:17] <bliss1_> soundray: but if not here we go, this forum I found has only one howto its pretty new and its all done with scripts which i think is pretty cool take a look http://howtoforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=5
[05:18] <GazzaK> chuenjiksatsauco,  if the DHCP server is not under his control, ie it is the Service Providers DHCP server, then he is stuffed, he could phone the ISP and ask them to force a new IP to be given to him...
[05:18] <bliss1_> ompaul; afternoon
[05:18] <MystaMax> thanks kingspawn, so the only reason why wouldn't be able to write to a certain directory would be b/c of the folder permissions?
[05:18] <kingspawn> MystaMax: if you look(!) at your /etc/passwd-file, you will see an entry for nobody with the shell set to /bin/false
[05:19] <kingspawn> without -file, that is, clumsy notation
[05:19] <kingspawn> MystaMax: Im not entirely sure what you're asking me now
[05:20] <foxpaul> does anyonne know how i can turn down the speed of my mouse? i've used the gnome mouse app to put it to its lowest, but it's still too fast
[05:20] <MystaMax> sorry, i'm having a hard time understanding permissions in linux
[05:20] <Frogzoo> !tell MisterN about docs
[05:20] <soundray> foxpaul: try xset
[05:21] <_jason> !perms
[05:21] <ubotu> permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[05:21] <MystaMax>  wow, i can't believe i missed that! thanks _jason
[05:22] <GazzaK> MystaMax, you can launch Nautilus as root, in terminal type sudo naulilus
[05:22] <monomaniacpat> can anyone help me install samba?
[05:22] <Frogzoo> !tell MystaMax about docs
[05:22] <monomaniacpat> I've downloaded the file from the website, untarred it - now what?
[05:22] <_jason> !samba
[05:22] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[05:23] <monomaniacpat> thanks
[05:23] <foxpaul> soundray, doesn't seem to make a difference
[05:23] <MystaMax> whats this frogzoo?
[05:23] <soundray> foxpaul: have you read man xset?
[05:24] <foxpaul> soundray, yes
[05:24] <chuenjiksatsauco> chip42:  syntax makes me suck.....any url 4 a manual?
[05:24] <foxpaul> and looked up supposed 'ideal' values for the m parameter
[05:25] <chip42> chuenjiksatsauco: man dhcpd.conf i believe.. i am pretty sure most config files are documented that way
[05:25] <soundray> foxpaul: hmm, what kind of mouse is it?
[05:25] <foxpaul> soundray, touchpad - detected as Alps
[05:26] <chuenjiksatsauco> chip42:  respect cyberbroda'
[05:26] <verdee> guys, any PPC ubuntu user? i need a pair of files
[05:26] <foxpaul> i'll try hacking the xorg.conf
[05:26] <foxpaul> hooo-fuckin-rah for linux on the desktop.
[05:26] <krenx> Hi, im wondering why my old configs for games dont work, i copied them from my burned cd too the game cfg dir and renamed them to .conf instead of .cfg, when i run the game they are just overwritten
[05:26] <soundray> foxpaul: that's one way. Also, search for touchpad related utilities.
[05:27] <soundray> foxpaul: tpconfig might help.
[05:27] <foxpaul> soundray, i'll take a look - cheers
[05:27] <tomveens> does anyone know howto install cinelerra in ubuntu because I'm failing in the instructions
[05:28] <tomveens> I have x86_64
[05:28] <tomveens> ubuntu
[05:30] <tomveens> there is a repository
[05:30] <tomveens> synaptic can get the packages but I can't find cinellera
[05:30] <idefix__> is it so that every time you start linux the molecular structure of your PC is exactly the same?
[05:31] <kingspawn> idefix__: interesting question. im no physicist, but i wouldnt think so
[05:32] <orbin> tomveens: so you installed it via synaptic?
[05:33] <tomveens> I haven't installed it because I couldn't find it in synaptic
[05:33] <dereks> so i am bored at work, whats something fun i can do via putty (so a console based app)
[05:33] <steve343> hello
[05:34] <orbin> dereks: fortune's fun for a while
[05:34] <tomveens> http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/breezy/cinelerra/i686/ was the repository I added
[05:34] <dereks> orbin: yeah, i did that for a little
[05:34] <steve343> can i ask you guys is the ntfc resize still buggy?
[05:34] <orbin> :)
[05:34] <orbin> steve343: ntfc == ntfs?
[05:35] <steve343> dereks you could always plag pingpong
[05:35] <orbin> tomveens: did you reload after you added the repos.?
[05:35] <steve343> yes ntfs ahem
[05:35] <tomveens> Maybe I have to change the type? or set a distribution or sections or comments? I don't know
[05:35] <dereks> steve343: haha
[05:35] <tomveens> yes I did
[05:35] <tomveens> and he had more packages to get
[05:35] <tomveens> from 37 to 44
[05:35] <orbin> what's the repository line?
[05:36] <steve343> its just resizing my ntfs partition really screwed my comp up
[05:36] <tomveens> http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/breezy/cinelerra/i686/
[05:36] <steve343> well windows
[05:36] <HymnToLife> steve343> it's called "fixing" :p
[05:37] <rloaderro> hi! i have installed bugzilla in ubuntu - everything works fine BUT i can't find where to configure the smtp server - email, pass, etc.. to send the bug reports. anyone can tell me where to configure this?!
[05:37] <tomveens> it had a <space>./ behind it and this automatically put himself in the line distributions, is that okay?
[05:38] <minerale> What is the name of the ubuntu tool that allows for drive partitioning
[05:38] <monomaniacpat> I'm trying to install samba from source, but there's no configure/make or install files - what am I supposed to do??
[05:38] <steve343> whats called fixing?
[05:39] <tomveens> I was wrong the pachages increased from 37 to 41 not 44
[05:39] <rafa> y esto?
[05:39] <minerale> rafa: #ubuntu-es
[05:39] <rafa> es en ingles todo?
[05:39] <orbin> tomveens: i'm not sure ho w to add external repositories via a http line tbh :-/  what if you just grab http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/breezy/cinelerra/i686/cinelerra_2.0.0-1svn20060419.1_i386.deb and install it w/ dpkg?
[05:40] <pampe-le-mousse> bonjour a tous
[05:41] <steve343> no
[05:41] <orbin> !fr
[05:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:41] <Ulu> hi... why doesnt fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin work ? I get bash: fakeroot: command not found
[05:41] <steve343> seriously if the resize potentionally harms windows you should at least warn people
[05:42] <minerale> orbin: do you happen to know the name of the tool that comes up during ubuntu's install --that allows for partitioning?
[05:42] <chip42> Ulu: its not installed maybe?
[05:42] <tomveens> how do I do that? I'm not a very good linux user.
[05:42] <orbin> steve343: whenever you muck around w/ partitions there's the risk of a stuffup
[05:42] <orbin> minerale: yes, parted
[05:42] <Ulu> chip42, : im trying to make a deb file
[05:42] <killpanda> Salut !
[05:43] <steve343> so how about a warning?
[05:43] <chip42> Ulu: i gathered. i was just interpretting that error for you.. you should sudo apt-get install fakeroot ... before continueing
[05:43] <minerale> orbin: I"m talking about the ubuntu gui around parted
[05:43] <killpanda> Hi ! :-)
[05:43] <killpanda> I got a serial port problem
[05:43] <monomaniacpat> anyone know how I ping with my wireless card only (not eth0)?
[05:43] <soundray> steve343: who are you actually adressing with "you"?
[05:44] <killpanda> I can't access ttyS0 even if I'm on the dialout group :-/
[05:44] <orbin> minerale: isn't that just the installer itself?
[05:44] <steve343> a comunity i guess
[05:44] <Ulu> chip42, : /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[05:44] <steve343> im not trying to be offensive
[05:44] <killpanda> But it work in root
[05:44] <soundray> steve343: probably the way to get heard with this issue is to submit a bug against the resizing program that you used.
[05:44] <chip42> Ulu: ahh. missing the package for that too..
[05:44] <XiXaQ> what is the standard charset in Ubuntu?
[05:45] <mjr> utf-8
[05:45] <steve343> and what will that achive
[05:45] <chip42> Ulu: sorry mate but i gotta go take a calc test in 20 min. gotta take off
[05:45] <iis-darmstadt> #join ubuntu-de
[05:45] <steve343> i doubt i would classify it as a bug
[05:45] <soundray> steve343: more than reporting it here.
[05:45] <iis-darmstadt> join de
[05:45] <steve343> fair enough
[05:45] <tomveens> I found it out for a bit
[05:45] <iis-darmstadt> sorry, I am a little thick today, I should go now...
[05:45] <soundray> iis-darmstadt: /join #ubuntu-de
[05:45] <tomveens> but there is a mistake
[05:46] <steve343> i'd still like to learn linux wheres the best place to start then
[05:46] <iis-darmstadt> join #ubuntu.de
[05:46] <soundray> iis-darmstadt: der Schraegstrich ist wichtig.
[05:46] <tomveens> it is not a x86_64 package
[05:46] <green_earz> Ulu:   check to see if its installed    dpkg -l | grep fakeroot
[05:46] <minerale> orbin: hmm, parted does not resize ntfs partitions
[05:46] <chip42> Ulu: most certain your problems can be solved by installing another package though and then attempting the process over again
[05:46] <itamboer> hello again
[05:47] <soundray> steve343: probably good to start with the command line:
[05:47] <soundray> !tell steve343 about cli
[05:47] <iis-darmstadt> I know, I told you the thing is I am not completely on top of it today, I was on the phone with the telekom, t-online for more than one hour today, it F$(/&( my brain up
[05:47] <itamboer> I now got breezer installed; then i deleted my account dir; and mounted my (gentoo) network dir. It seems like gnome wasn't happy with that. Is there an easy way to eighter install fluxfox now or get the gnome settings back?
[05:47] <Ulu> green_earz, : ii  fakeroot                               1.5.1ubuntu2                       Gives a fake root environment
[05:47] <soundray> iis-darmstadt: yeah yeah, the Telekomedians ;)
[05:48] <green_earz> Ulu: its installed
[05:48] <iis-darmstadt> soundray: I hope you are not with them anymore, but what should you do???
[05:48] <Ulu> green_earz, : so why doesnt it work?
[05:49] <monomaniacpat> Anyone know about wireless?
[05:49] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i open very big images?
[05:49] <MetaMorfoziS> like a jpg that 58mbyte?
[05:49] <chip42> Ulu: it told you. command not found. make-jpkg is missing
[05:49] <MetaMorfoziS> all program said not enough memory and other
[05:49] <monomaniacpat> Can't anyone help a damsel in distress?
[05:49] <chip42> Ulu: if you do a: locate make-jpkg... shouldn't find it
[05:49] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody know a program that can do this?
[05:50] <orbin> minerale: sorry, you're right.  wonder what the installer uses then
[05:50] <green_earz> Ulu:   when you are using fakeroot are you in the /usr/src   dir and  are you a in the group src
[05:50] <Ulu> green_earz, : ehm... desktop :D
[05:50] <soundray> iis-darmstadt: move countries. I'm with British Telecom now. From bad to worse ;)
[05:50] <budluva> itamboer apt-get install fluxbox?
[05:52] <monomaniacpat> I think I'm going to have to kill myself.... *cries*
[05:52] <itamboer> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/nl.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:52] <green_earz> Ulu: fire up a terminal and  use the command   sudo adduser your-user-name src
[05:52] <orbin> itamboer: apt-get update
[05:52] <itamboer> thanks orbin; that seems to work
[05:53] <monomaniacpat> *throws self off tower*
[05:53] <itamboer> and fluxbox installation seems to work now too
[05:53] <AnsiC> hello
[05:53] <Ulu> green_earz, :done
[05:53] <Frogzoo> !wifi
[05:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:54] <itamboer> okay; let's home this works; thanks in advance
[05:54] <Ulu> green_earz, :fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[05:54] <Ulu>         --->       /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[05:54] <Ulu> obs...sorry
[05:54] <monomaniacpat> *stops falling momentarily*
[05:54] <green_earz> Ulu: now cd /usr/src    and run the command you need
[05:55] <itamboer> hi again
[05:55] <itamboer> thanks; i now got fluxbox
[05:56] <Spofer> What's the "Multiverse repository"?
[05:56] <steve343> is it a good idea to have like a 10 gig fat32 partition  so i can share my music and files between operating systems?
[05:56] <_jason> Spofer: do you want to know about it or how to enable it?
[05:57] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone actualy tell me why I can't turn off my wired connection and use wlan0 instead?
[05:57] <Spofer> about it, first
[05:57] <Spofer>  :)
[05:57] <_jason> ubotu: tell Spofer about components
[05:57] <soundray> steve343: fat32 is a very poor filesystem, but it's still the best for sharing. Just make sure you have backups.
[05:57] <Spofer> _jason: Thanks!
[05:58] <joshritger> will ubuntu notice my sound card if i change it?
[05:58] <joshritger> Auto detect it, or do i have to do some driver changes or somethign
[05:58] <soundray> joshritger: it should work automagically.
[05:58] <steve343> is there anyother file format that both linux and windows xp would both read?
[05:58] <joshritger> thanks
[05:58] <soundray> steve343: iso9660
[05:59] <steve343> isnt that the cd format?
[05:59] <soundray> steve343: yes
[05:59] <Ulu> green_earz, :nope didnt work
[05:59] <orbin> steve343: you can use ext* w/ the fs-driver in windows iirc
[05:59] <steve343> wouldnt that create problems with file name sizes?
[06:00] <soundray> steve343: you could also use a proper Linux filesystem and share it via samba.
[06:00] <Spofer> Where do i find this Multiverse repository?
[06:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell Spofer about multiverse
[06:00] <Wes> orbin: ext3 write doesn't work well
[06:00] <Spofer> very useful, this bot :)
[06:00] <Wes> orbin: in windows
[06:00] <Wes> steve343: I would use fat32
[06:01] <Diiba> Hi.
[06:01] <steve343> as long as i keep it defragmented it should be fine
[06:02] <steve343> right time to try this out
[06:02] <green_earz> Ulu: one more thing that may help is to log out and back in again and then try the commands
[06:03] <Diiba> Could someone help a newb and tell me how tho change the splasscreen?
[06:03] <Diiba> *spalsh
[06:03] <Diiba> *Splash
[06:03] <_jason> Diiba: which one?
[06:03] <joshritger> should be a loginscreen options under a menu
[06:04] <joshritger> one of the admin or preferences
[06:04] <joshritger> not exactly sure
[06:04] <Diiba> Ok, ty
[06:05] <mikeo1> is there a way to set bandwith priority to apache over my ftp server?
[06:05] <Diiba> I found one way to change it with confg, but it isnt working.
[06:05] <mikeo1> and vnc connection
[06:05] <Diiba> But, whatever.
[06:05] <IOWAHC> hy @ all
[06:06] <Diiba> Ill use this just to surf web and chat.
[06:06] <IOWAHC> me again
[06:06] <mikeo1> so apache2 takes up all the bandwith when its being used, but when its idle the bandwith goes to ftp and such
[06:06] <IOWAHC> now i got the kernel Source but there is no build directory
[06:06] <IOWAHC> :(
[06:06] <mikeo1> aka, so me downloading some files from my ftp on the server wont kill my website
[06:06] <_jason> Diiba: can you be a bit more specific about what you are trying to do?
[06:06] <mikeo1> anyone?
[06:07] <green_earz> mikeo1: the subject is called packets shaping, give me a few mins and i find you some links
[06:07] <eyedol> anyone recommend a better burning software
[06:07] <mikeo1> ok cool
[06:07] <_jason> eyedol: better than what?
[06:07] <eyedol> _jason, i need a burning software
[06:07] <_jason> eyedol: try k3b
[06:07] <s|k> how do I change colors for gnomethemes?
[06:08] <HymnToLife> eyedol> k3b
[06:08] <eyedol> is a kde application ?
[06:08] <_jason> s|k: you have to edit the theme or get a new one
[06:08] <eyedol> i'm on gnome
[06:08] <_jason> eyedol: yes, but it works fine under gnome
[06:08] <s|k> _jason: how do I edit the theme?
[06:08] <_jason> s|k: see the tutorial at art.gnome.org
[06:08] <green_earz> mikeo1: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/ADSL-Bandwidth-Management-HOWTO.html   http://luxik.cdi.cz/%7Edevik/qos/htb/manual/userg.htm  http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Traffic-Control-HOWTO/index.html
[06:08] <s|k> _jason: thanks
[06:09] <eyedol> _jason:i really don't like runing kde app in gnome
[06:09] <eyedol> any native app
[06:09] <sefz> Hi to all..
[06:09] <sefz> someone installed the new XGL graphic system?
[06:09] <_jason> eyedol: there is gnomebaker and graveman for gnome, but k3b is said to be the best
[06:09] <AnsiC> i have builded the kernel image but there is error compiling the modules
[06:09] <HymnToLife> eyedol> there's gnomebaker but you don't want to use it, imo it sucks big time$
[06:10] <mikeo1> the linux box isnt a router though...
[06:10] <eyedol> oh ok
[06:10] <AnsiC> somebody know were can i download precompiled modules for 2.6.11.12 ?
[06:10] <mikeo1> its just a server, just want to give priority to certain programs running on it
[06:10] <AnsiC> for i386 architecture ?
[06:10] <eyedol> let me give a shot to graveman
[06:11] <eyedol> if is not better i go for kb3
[06:11] <mikeo1> is there a simple tool that i could use to give one program bandwith priorities over another?
[06:11] <mikeo1> not routing anything through the box... so not a linux router
[06:12] <green_earz> mikeo1: so its a router then your server,  you can do the shaping on the server
[06:13] <mikeo1> yes
[06:13] <tayylor> ok i feel a little rediculous asking this but.. i cant mount an audio cd. sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0 doesnt work 'wrong fs type'
[06:14] <tomveens> cinelerra is working on my 64 ubuntu system!!! Yippie
[06:14] <orbin> tomveens: how'd you install it?
[06:14] <green_earz> mikeo1: you may be able to tweak the  wondershaper   script for your needs
[06:14] <monomaniacpat> Anyone know how to log into swat?
[06:14] <mikeo1> hmm
[06:14] <klm> why on earth are all video files encrypted in aMule these days
[06:14] <green_earz> mikeo1: aptitude show wondershaper
[06:15] <monomaniacpat> also, how do I verify that samba and swat are installed?
[06:15] <zyghom> guys, hi, did you try to upgrade 5.10 to 6.06 ? I'm trying million times and it does not allow it
[06:15] <FallenHitokiri> i used this tutorial http://blog.odonnell.nu/32.html to get up a subversion server. but my if i try to import a project i get this: svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/public/vsadm' \n svn: Could not open the requested SVN filesystem what did i do wro
[06:16] <tayylor> zyghom: what sort of errors do you get?
[06:16] <zyghom> it is saying something like: "to many changes, it will try to make new installation"
[06:17] <monomaniacpat> anyone?
[06:17] <DoctorMO> ok I need to connect to the internet from my ubuntu machine through my Mac, I have connected them to each other via ethernet, 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2. they can ping each other but the ubuntu machine can not see the external network
[06:17] <zyghom> additionally today I downloaded new 6.06 live cd beta2, booted from it and tried to install it - it give errors, I put it on lauchpad with the error number Bug #41921
[06:18] <zyghom> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/41921
[06:20] <tomveens> I downloaded the 64 bit rpm package from the heroine website
[06:20] <tomveens> installed alien
[06:21] <tomveens> and the alien *.rpm
[06:21] <tomveens> you get a deb
[06:21] <tomveens> then dpkg
[06:21] <orbin> tomveens: so the manual d/load + dpkg didn't work?
[06:22] <tomveens> what is d/load?
[06:22] <orbin> yes but rpms are ... ew
[06:22] <orbin> and that guy packaged a specific breezy deb for ya
[06:22] <orbin> tomveens: download
[06:22] <Crescendo> my sound icon in my tray disappeared, how to get it back?
[06:23] <orbin> Crescendo: right-click > add to panel
[06:23] <DBO> Crescendo, in there you want the Volume Control applet
[06:28] <DBO> anyone know of a simple way to import csv files to sql?
[06:28] <XiXaQ> is it there a "minimize to tray" equivalent in ubuntu/gnome?
[06:29] <DBO> there is the swallower applet
[06:29] <kIOsk> anyone here runs flashfxp ver 3 in ubuntu ??
[06:29] <DBO> I havent ever used it, but I think thats its purpose
[06:29] <gnomefreak> my apps minimize to the tray at bottom of gnome desktop
[06:30] <tayylor> are there any issues mounting some drm'd cds?
[06:30] <ere> have anyone experience with sound configuration and ltsp on dapper?
[06:30] <XiXaQ> gnomefreak, in "Notification Area"?
[06:30] <_jason> !dapper
[06:30] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[06:30] <gnomefreak> ere: please join #ubuntu+1 for dapper related questions
[06:30] <MisterN> !edgy
[06:30] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html
[06:30] <hupp3l> can someone tell me if ASP is a must for a web host
[06:30] <Spec> no
[06:30] <Spec> it's not
[06:30] <_jason> no
[06:30] <Spec> asp is evil
[06:31] <hupp3l> sweet so what would you say is necessary?
[06:31] <XiXaQ> Spec,  use JSP
[06:31] <sheitano> Hi Im just installing Ubuntu... can some1 help me with manual partitioning_
[06:31] <sheitano> ?
[06:31] <WhitePerson> hi
[06:31] <tayylor> lol nm
[06:32] <sheitano> Message me if you want to help me :)
[06:32] <sheitano> no1?
[06:33] <DBO> what is your question?
[06:33] <Doat> sheitano, just ask your question on the channel
[06:33] <sheitano> Ik
[06:33] <sheitano> k
[06:33] <ompaul> !enter
[06:33] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:33] <sheitano> I have 3 partitions
[06:33] <ompaul> sheitano, put it all in one case give as much info as yo uthink might be useful
[06:34] <sheitano> ok 1 NTFS with windows on it, 2 Reisers, Should I use /windows on the windows partition?
[06:34] <scifi> hey guys, just got this message during boot up: "*checking root file system.../has been mounted 30times without being check, check forced", then it counts thru from 0-100%, what caused that ?
[06:34] <DBO> you dont need to give windows a mountpoint right now, you can do that later
[06:35] <ompaul> sheitano, you don't have to you can but I would be more inclined to make it /mount/windows and it can be done with huge ease later
[06:35] <DBO> scifi, you rebooted 30 times since you installed...
[06:35] <ompaul> scifi, better than saying you turned off your machine and we have lost all your files :-)
[06:35] <scifi> DBO: so its just like a spot check kinda thing ?
[06:36] <sheitano> oh ok, it says /media/hdc1 right now.. should I remove that?
[06:36] <DBO> scifi, sure, close enough
[06:36] <scifi> :)
[06:36] <IOWAHC> how is the command to format a harddisk with vfat?
[06:36] <scifi> i have also noticed it takes it a while to "configure network interface" during the boot up, anyway of speeding that up?
[06:37] <tayylor> IOWAHC: mkfs.vfat /dev/something i think
[06:37] <DBO> scifi, how long?
[06:37] <sheitano> anyway thanks guys!
[06:38] <ompaul> IOWAHC, why not look at the menu: system administration disks
[06:38] <scifi> DBO: erm, hard to say, perhaps 20-30secs
[06:38] <IOWAHC> because I have no gui *g*
[06:38] <DBO> scifi, do you have multiple network cards?
[06:38] <IOWAHC> i am working on it ....
[06:38] <ds[de] > I run xfce4, but after typing "nautilus" in the console (old habits die hard), I now have my gnome desktop back, not only the background image, but also the manu and everything ... wth?
[06:38] <ompaul> IOWAHC, mkfs.vfat it is then
[06:39] <IOWAHC> what means the error: cdrom_pc_intern: The device appears confused....
[06:39] <scifi> DBO: i have 2 machines connected to a network switch, which is intern connected to a modem/router
[06:39] <IOWAHC> thx
[06:39] <Jimmey__> ds[de] , try nautilus --no-desktop
[06:39] <DBO> scifi, assign your network card(s) static IP addresses so it doesnt have to wait for DHCP
[06:40] <IOWAHC> what is the meaning of the error: cdrom_pc_intern: The device appears confused....
[06:40] <ds[de] > Jimmey__; sounds good, but do you have any idea how I can get my xfce-desktop back? xfce-panel and -taskbar are still there as usual...
[06:40] <ompaul> IOWAHC, as output from what command?
[06:40] <Spec> my devices have never been confused
[06:40] <IOWAHC> no command
[06:40] <scifi> DBO: is that something i need to configure in ubuntu or in my routers web interface ?
[06:40] <IOWAHC> it just appears
[06:40] <Jimmey__> ds[de] , try logging out/in again
[06:40] <DBO> scifi, in ubuntu
[06:40] <Crescendo> I've not been able to get flash to work on new firefox install, 1.5.0.1, howto?  Been to wiki, no help
[06:40] <ds[de] > Jimmey__; I did, doesn't work :/
[06:41] <IOWAHC> I booted with the irqpoll option
[06:41] <DBO> scifi, System -> Administration -> Networking
[06:41] <IOWAHC> could this be the problem?
[06:41] <ds[de] > Jimmey__; that's why I'm so confused, I also thought logging out and in would solve it
[06:41] <ompaul> IOWAHC, do you have Crescendo dapper or 5.10
[06:41] <scifi> DBO: k looking now
[06:41] <Crescendo> 5.10
[06:41] <IOWAHC> 5.10
[06:41] <Jimmey__> ds[de] 
[06:41] <Jimmey__> I've done it before :(
[06:42] <Jimmey__> I just can't remember
[06:42] <Jimmey__> :S:S
[06:42] <ompaul> IOWAHC, it is possible care to reboot and in a calm state ask for help with achieving one thing - be it gui or something
[06:42] <Jimmey__> It's bugging me
[06:42] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: what arch are you using?
[06:42] <ds[de] > Jimmey__; ahh, too bad :( well I'll just surf around the web a little and hope someone has experienced the same as me before
[06:42] <Crescendo> x86?  I think?
[06:42] <ds[de] > Jimmey__; tnx anyways
[06:42] <Jimmey__> ds[de] 
[06:42] <Jimmey__> Hang around, I might pluck the answer out of mid-air
[06:42] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: can i see output of uname -r please
[06:42] <ds[de] > Jimmey__; I'll keep an eye out for the channel ;)
[06:43] <DBO> ds[de] , have you tried restarting gdm?
[06:43] <IOWAHC> ompaul: can you explain it again please.... i can't understand the meaning....
[06:43] <IOWAHC> sorry
[06:43] <scifi> DBO: not xactl sure what i need to be entering in the connection settings
[06:43] <Crescendo> 2.6.12-10-386
[06:43] <Jimmey__> ds[de] , here it is
[06:43] <Jimmey__> Jimmey's me ;)
[06:44] <gnomefreak> ok Crescendo now when installing it do you get an error? or something?
[06:44] <DBO> scifi, do you know how to use pastebin?
[06:44] <scifi> yes
[06:44] <ds[de] > DBO: isn't gdm automatically restarted when I log-out and -in again?
[06:44] <bth_> hi, I am trying to get MySQL 5 installed on my Breezy Badger.  does anyone know of a how-to guide for this? :(
[06:44] <Crescendo> No error, it said complete, as far as I remember.
[06:44] <Crescendo> But firefox asks for plugin
[06:44] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: did you restart ff?
[06:44] <Crescendo> No flash works
[06:44] <Crescendo> Yes.
[06:44] <Crescendo> FF 1.5.0.1
[06:45] <ds[de] > Jimmey__; got an idea?
[06:45] <eyedol> if issue fglrxinfo
[06:45] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: in the address bar please type about:plugins
[06:45] <eyedol> i get this message
[06:45] <scifi> DBO: the ip address box, does it need my internal ip or external ?
[06:45] <Jimmey__> de[de] , http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129346&highlight=XFCE
[06:45] <DBO> scifi, "ifconfig" -> pastebin
[06:45] <scifi> ok
[06:45] <Crescendo> THere aren't any plugins installed, apparently.
[06:45] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: when the page comes up find flash and tell me what it says next to it please
[06:45] <IOWAHC> ompaul?
[06:45] <IOWAHC> ompaul: can you explain it again please.... i can't understand the meaning....
[06:45] <eyedol> xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI missing display ":0.0
[06:45] <ompaul> IOWAHC, if you booted with an option you think might be reporting problems, then if your looking for gui we can start from there
[06:46] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: you will get a page with plugins should even if none are preasent
[06:46] <ompaul> IOWAHC, so I suggested rebooting so the machine is in an assumed state
[06:46] <IOWAHC> without the option?
[06:46] <eyedol> please what is wrong
[06:46] <IOWAHC> without this option my network will be dead
[06:46] <Crescendo> gnomefreak:     File name: libnullplugin.so
[06:46] <Crescendo>     The default plugin handles plugin data for mimetypes and extensions that are not specified and facilitates downloading of new plugins.
[06:46] <Crescendo> MIME Type 	Description 	Suffixes 	Enabled
[06:46] <Crescendo> * 	All types 	.* 	No
[06:46] <IOWAHC> cause there is a IRQ conflict
[06:46] <ds[de] > Jimmey__; ahh, there it is again ;) thanks a lot buddy
[06:46] <IOWAHC> but okay....
[06:46] <ompaul> IOWAHC, stop a secon
[06:46] <shizzz> has anyone built any apps that run on ubuntu?
[06:46] <scifi> DBO: pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13021
[06:47] <shizzz> if so i have a couplr basic questions
[06:47] <eyedol> shizzz:what type of app
[06:47] <ompaul> IOWAHC, so tell me, what spec machine is that? and how old is it
[06:47] <DBO> scifi, route -> pastebin
[06:47] <DBO> scifi also "cat /etc/resolv.conf" -> pastebin
[06:48] <XiXaQ> gnomefreak, I mean minimize to supersmall icon, not to normal taskbar icon. Is that possible, and if so, how do I accomplish that?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: hold on a sec close out of that
[06:48] <scifi> DBO: route: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13022
[06:48] <shizzz> well my first question is about the synaptic manager. its build on the debian specs right? not the red hat pakage installer.
[06:48] <gnomefreak> XiXaQ: maybe the swollower app i dont know sorry
[06:48] <IOWAHC> it is a Acer Aspire 1692 WLMI.... There are several reports of problems with the integrated Broadcom NetXtreme (BCM5788) and I found a solution to make my network running with this option... but now this weird error is coming up...
[06:49] <Crescendo> gnomefreak: done
[06:49] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[06:49] <shizzz> so if i want to downlload a package it must be a debian package. or can the synaptic manager download various kinds of packages
[06:49] <Crescendo> gnomefreak: yes
[06:49] <IOWAHC> afk
[06:50] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: let me know what happens with this command please sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:50] <scifi> DBO: cat /etc/resolv.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13023
[06:50] <DBO> scifi, and resolv.conf?
[06:50] <DBO> k
[06:50] <eck> shizzz: you should be downloading .deb packages.  it may be possible to convert a .rpm to a .deb with a tool like alien
[06:50] <shizzz> eyedol are you there?
[06:50] <shizzz> ah
[06:50] <shizzz> ok
[06:50] <ompaul> IOWAHC, that should help you with no issues like the ones your seeing http://yuri.at/go/amd64/
[06:50] <Crescendo> gnomefreak: already the latest version
[06:51] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: what video card do you have?
[06:51] <shizzz> my next question is about the platform what are some of the better tools for building apps like in C
[06:51] <shizzz> i have heard of GCC compiler and some otheres
[06:51] <omio_> is ndiswrapper in the install cd?
[06:51] <Crescendo> gnomefreak:  some embedded card on my laptop... how do I check?
[06:51] <gnomefreak> shizzz: install build-essential
[06:51] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: lspci
[06:52] <DBO> scifi, in your network settings utility, click on eth0, then click properties.  Change configuration to "Static IP Adress"  IP Address = 10.0.1.0, Subnet Mask = 255.0.0.0, Gateway address = 10.0.0.2
[06:52] <joachim-n> how do I set up sharing on ubuntu?
[06:52] <Crescendo>  S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13)
[06:52] <joachim-n> I can see my mac HS on ubuntu, but not the other way round
[06:52] <eck> shizzz: you will be using the GCC compiler.  You can use whatever IDE you want, but most people seem to use vim or emacs
[06:52] <joachim-n> HS -- HD I mean
[06:52] <gnomefreak> shizzz: you might also want anjuta (gnome) or kdevelop (kde)
[06:52] <kingspawn> emacs!
[06:52] <DBO> scifi, after that go into the DNS tab, make sure 10.0.0.2 is in the first box, if not, add it.
[06:53] <shizzz> do you konw where i can get the gcc. there web site only has the source files but i dont have a c complier
[06:53] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: does it work in any other gecko browser?
[06:53] <eck> shizzz: as gnomefreak said, install build-essential
[06:53] <Crescendo> gnomefreak:  Don't have any installed.  This may have something to do with upgrading my FF installation?
[06:53] <gnomefreak> shizzz: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:54] <shizzz> does that contain the gcc
[06:54] <Crescendo> gnomefreak:  I did so for an extension that required 1.5.x, but it may no longer be necessary...
[06:54] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: could did you happen to save your 1.0.8 or 1.0.7 plugins/settings per wiki
[06:54] <ompaul> shizzz, it does
[06:54] <DBO> scifi, if for whatever reason any of that does not work for you, just change it all back
[06:54] <shizzz> oh thanks
[06:54] <shizzz> sweet
[06:54] <shizzz> ;)
[06:54] <gnomefreak> shizzz: it has gcc make and alot of other needed apps and files
[06:55] <shizzz> ok thank you
[06:55] <Crescendo> gnomefreak: yes, I believe so, but it was a vanilla install of FF, no plugins/settings beyond default.
[06:55] <bliss1_> hi folks
[06:55] <sint[a] x> hi
[06:55] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: you left the 1.0.7/.8 installed right?
[06:55] <kitsudo> hi
[06:56] <IOWAHC> re
[06:56] <ompaul> IOWAHC, that should help you with no issues like the ones your seeing http://yuri.at/go/amd64/
[06:56] <Crescendo> gnomefreak: yes
[06:56] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: if i had to guess the plugins are pointing towards older version of ff you would need to make the new ff use them
[06:56] <bliss1_> going install ubuntu server i must active root user using sudo passwd root at what point of the install do i invoke this command
[06:56] <sint[a] x> what's up... im just testing this new client on my smartphone  lol
[06:56] <IOWAHC> no sorry... it doesn't helped
[06:56] <ompaul> bliss1_,  you don't have to
[06:57] <IOWAHC> I already tried it
[06:57] <bliss1_> ompaul hi why not
[06:57] <Crescendo> gnomefreak: is there a necessity beyond extensions and themes for upgraded FF?
[06:57] <ompaul> bliss1_, you don't need root to do servers
[06:57] <ompaul> !tell bliss1_ about root
[06:57] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: no shouldnt be i dont think
[06:57] <ompaul> :-)
[06:57] <joachim-n> this page is wrong: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[06:57] <DBO> bliss1_, if you need a root terminal session use sudo -s
[06:57] <HymnToLife> Crescendo> 1.0.x to 1.5.x ?
[06:58] <ompaul> IOWAHC, no other ideas for you sorry
[06:58] <joachim-n> I don't see Windows Networking
[06:58] <Crescendo> hymntolife: yeah
[06:58] <HymnToLife> of course there is
[06:58] <HymnToLife> it runs MUCH better
[06:58] <Crescendo> gnomefreak:  okay, how to revert to original breezy install?
[06:58] <IOWAHC> ompaul... no problem
[06:58] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[06:58] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:58] <gnomefreak> ^^^ Crescendo tells you how there
[06:58] <Crescendo> !ff1.5
[06:59] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: all you have to do is clickt he link above
[06:59] <Crescendo> gnome: =D
[06:59] <IOWAHC> an other question... someone got an idea of how to change the IRQ a device is using?
[07:00] <bliss1_> ompaul: look here point number 5 under important pre-installation considerations http://howtoforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=5
[07:00] <ompaul> IOWAHC, this is why I have problems with having something else for you: ksoftirqd (9)        - Softirq daemon
[07:00] <danne755> Excuse me what was the command to update nvidia-glx after a kernel update so it works again?
[07:00] <andyt_> anyway of kicking myself from here ?
[07:00] <DBO> bliss1_, at any point that it asks you to use su, just use sudo -s instead
[07:00] <andyt_> scifi is my ghost
[07:01] <IOWAHC> thx ompaul
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> - /msg nickserv help
[07:01] <DBO> ok andyt_ I take it you had problems
[07:01] <bliss1_> DBO; hi did you see the url i posted for ompaul
[07:01] <DBO> bliss1_, yes, but they are wrong about needing root
[07:01] <Crescendo> gnomefreak: I changed my mind about Firefox, how to change plugin to 1.5?
[07:02] <andyt_> DBO: no internets fine, just had to restart FF, but it also affected my previous irc session, noone cud see what i typed
[07:02] <ompaul> bliss1_, yeap, sudo -i or sudo script name they are wrong
[07:02] <DBO> andyt_, yeah, that would do that
[07:02] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: same place
[07:02] <andyt_> but "scifi" still hasnt timed out lol :P
[07:02] <ompaul> bliss1_, and I don't approve of -i :)
[07:02] <DBO> andyt_, at any rate, it SHOULD be faster now
[07:02] <bliss1_> DBO: ok thanks I did not know that they were wrong maybe i should e-mail the guy and tell him
[07:03] <bliss1_> ompaul: thanks
[07:03] <andyt_> DBO: yeh thx m8
[07:03] <sexcopter8000m> hi, is there any nice and easy to use video editing software anyone can recommend?
[07:03] <andyt_> trouble will all these system tweaks ive been making is all the reboots required to trst them out :P
[07:03] <DBO> andyt_, of course it is also possible it is something else all together, only one way to find out =P
[07:04] <bliss1_> ompaul: what the non-approval about sudo -i ?
[07:04] <andyt_> ok i will reboot :P
[07:04] <IOWAHC> what do I have to install to get the directory /usr/src/linux
[07:04] <DBO> bliss1_, cuz its dangerous for inexperienced users
[07:04] <IOWAHC> dont tell me the sourc *g*
[07:04] <ompaul> blind, yeap
[07:05] <DBO> ompaul, bit by tab complete again =P
[07:05] <ompaul> DBO, I was
[07:05] <jarle> IOWAHC: kernel-source
[07:05] <bliss1_> DBO: so putting sudo in front of a command that needs root privliages is better less mistakes
[07:05] <DBO> bliss1_, yes
[07:06] <DBO> bliss1_, it causes you to not use root when you dont need to
[07:06] <ompaul> IOWAHC, the source :-) linux-tree or linux-tree-versionnumber
[07:06] <bliss1_> ompaul: thanks
[07:06] <ompaul> jarle,  linux-tree-2.6.12
[07:06] <Crescendo> Is there a particular reason FF hasn't updated itself to 1.5.0.2?
[07:07] <DBO> Crescendo, are you using 1.5?
[07:07] <ompaul> bliss1_, enjoyit appears I got the nick wrong :-/
[07:07] <gnomefreak> Crescendo: yes because ff 1.5 wasnt built to run on breezy
[07:07] <jarle> ompaul: What is the difference between kernel-source and linux-tree then?
[07:07] <rootaccess> hello all
[07:07] <bliss1_> ompaul: ? eh
[07:07] <DBO> Crescendo, you either have to chown FF1.5's install directory (and chown it back) or run FF as root to get FF1.5 to update.  Either way make sure you change it back as soon as your are done
[07:08] <ompaul> bliss1_, I said a wrong nick in an eariler message to you and got bitten by tab complete
[07:08] <rootaccess> I recently asked for 1 Ubuntu CD but ot sent 40 -- is this normall -- do you think they would want the extras back?
[07:08] <Crescendo> all:  roger roger
[07:08] <jarle> ompaul: is kernel-source the official source without patches applied?
[07:08] <andyt_> DBO: worked a treat, thanks :)
[07:08] <DBO> rootaccess, yeah, thats normal
[07:08] <rootaccess> o i c
[07:08] <rootaccess> lol
[07:08] <DBO> andyt_, you're welcome
[07:08] <ompaul> jarle,  linux-tree - Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged Ubuntu kernel images
[07:08] <andyt_> zoomed thru setting/confirguring network interfaces :)
[07:09] <DBO> andyt_, its handy when you dont have to wait on DHCP
[07:09] <ompaul> jarle,  kernel-source-2.6.11 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 with Debian patches kernel-tree-2.6.11 - Linux kernel source tree for building Debian kernel images
[07:09] <scifi> :D
[07:10] <bliss1_> ompaul: ok
[07:10] <scifi> got some more tweaking questions, but going for dinner now, c u soon
[07:10] <Jay> i need to know how to turn on sshd with a ubuntu live cd, can anyone help me?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> - /etc/init.d/sshd start (or similer)
[07:11] <Jay> no such file or directory, sorry i'm a complete linux newb and know absolutely nothing
[07:12] <minerale_> what parogram May I use to burn an iso file?
[07:12] <kingspawn> does live cds even come with sshd?
[07:12] <meshe> Jay: sudo apt-get install openssh
[07:12] <meshe> kingspawn: yes
[07:12] <ompaul> Jay,  you need to install it first, as meshe said
[07:12] <minerale_> s/paro/pro
[07:13] <meshe> minerale_: k3b will do it nicely
[07:13] <meshe> for commandline cdrecord works too
[07:13] <minerale_> meshe: part of kde?
[07:13] <Jay> well thats the problem, i had some people trying to help me install it and the partitions messed up and i can't access my windows files on the hd, i'm trying to get them off now to another computer and linux is the only way to access the files
[07:13] <apikoros> anybody know a good, sophisticated ID3 tagger with a curses / console interface?
[07:13] <ompaul> minerale_, if your in gnome (plain ubuntu) right click on the iso on nautilus choose the burner with a blank in it and tell it to write to disk
[07:13] <meshe> yeah, but can be installed winthout kde
[07:14] <rootaccess> is there a boot img file on the install CD that can fit on a floppy (booting OLD system for install)
[07:14] <meshe> Jay: if you're running the live cd just run: sudo apt-get install openssh
[07:14] <meshe> in a term, it will install
[07:14] <minerale_> thanks ompaul
[07:14] <Jay> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install openssh
[07:14] <Jay> Reading package lists... Done
[07:14] <Jay> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:14] <Jay> E: Couldn't find package openssh
[07:15] <meshe> sorry openssh-server
[07:15] <s|k> what do I do with a .deb file?
[07:15] <houlala> Hi everyone
[07:15] <jmibanez> hullo, i have a Fujitsu Lifebook C-Series... the mixer setting for the 'master' control does nothing, while the setting for the 'headphones' control seems to be the master. how do i hack this to make 'headphones' the master control?
[07:15] <ompaul> Jay, change the openssh to openssl
[07:15] <eck> s|k: you can install it using dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:15] <s|k> eck: thanks
[07:16] <houlala> i got a problem
[07:16] <houlala> someone knows how to disable ipv6 in oder to switch on ipv4 protocol ?
[07:16] <houlala> i can go on irc servers but not on internet ...
[07:16] <Jay> so - sudo apt-get install openssl-server
[07:16] <Jay> ?
[07:16] <amias> lo all
[07:17] <ompaul> openssh-server
[07:17] <meshe> no: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:17] <amias> could anyone help me get multichannel sound working with my SB live on ubuntu ?
[07:17] <houlala> someone can see me ?
[07:17] <eck> houlala: ipv4 connections should be tunneled through ipv6
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> amias,  probelm ive had is finding a real multichannel source. :P ive mirrored the front to th rear befor.
[07:17] <houlala> k, but i need to be in ipv4
[07:18] <Jay> buntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:18] <Jay> Reading package lists... Done
[07:18] <Jay> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:18] <Jay> The following extra packages will be installed:
[07:18] <Jay>   openssh-client
[07:18] <Jay> Suggested packages:
[07:18] <Jay>   rssh
[07:18] <Jay> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[07:18] <houlala> and i forget how to switch ...
[07:18] <Jay>   openssh-server
[07:18] <Jay> The following packages will be upgraded:
[07:18] <Jay>   openssh-client
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> Jay,  and the point of that is?
[07:18] <Jay> 1 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 48 not upgraded.
[07:18] <Jay> Need to get 709kB of archives.
[07:18] <Jay> After unpacking 528kB of additional disk space will be used.
[07:18] <Jay> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?
[07:18] <Jay> sorry, thats just what come up, do i continue?
[07:18] <meshe> hit enter
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[07:18] <ubotu> I heard apt-get is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[07:18] <amias> Dr_Willis, it can be hard to tell , i've been using Mixxx (1.5.0)
[07:18] <ompaul> Jay DONT paste thanks, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:18] <meshe> if you don't continue, then it won't install :)
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> amias,  yep - for my videos/mp3s i just  have it set to mirror the front/back
[07:19] <ompaul> Jay, so the letter Y is your friend
[07:19] <eck> houlala: I don't really know much about ipv6, but I think it is an option in ifconfig
[07:19] <houlala> nop
[07:19] <Jay> does that mean that sshd is turned on and installed now?
[07:20] <amias> Dr_Willis, did you do that in .asoundrc or with the mixer ?
[07:20] <meshe> yup
[07:20] <houlala> i have to modifiy the /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[07:20] <meshe> Jay: try: ssh localhost
[07:20] <houlala> but i can't access to internet to help myself >_<
[07:20] <amias> houlala, like you are at the moment ?
[07:21] <houlala> i don't understand *french* :s
[07:21] <Jay> meshe: what do i do after that, i selected yes to continue connecting
[07:21] <eck> houlala: if you can get onto irc i would imagine that the problem is some firewall setting
[07:22] <eck> houlala: if you want to disable ipv6 though you can try modprobe -r ipv6
[07:22] <meshe> Jay: why are you trying to install ssh if you don't know how to use it?
[07:22] <houlala> eck, i don't have firewall
[07:22] <amias> Jay, that means its running the sshd , you should login to make sure
[07:22] <houlala> eck, > ipv6 is in use
[07:22] <Jay> i'm getting help from people on how to connect to another computer
[07:22] <houlala> eck, i remeber that i need to edit the /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[07:23] <houlala> and replace something by an other
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> amias,  i just fired up the alsamixer gui and slid thje sliders till it worked.
[07:23] <LinuxJones> meshe: he's learning
[07:23] <gnomefreak> !ipv6
[07:23] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:23] <loufoque> !help
[07:23] <gnomefreak> houlala: ^^^
[07:23] <houlala> i can't acces to internet ^^
[07:23] <gnomefreak> oh
[07:23] <eck>    1.
[07:23] <eck>        sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[07:23] <eck>    2.
[07:23] <eck>       Find the line:  alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[07:23] <eck>    3.
[07:23] <eck>       Replace it with:  alias net-pf-10 off
[07:23] <eck>    4.
[07:23] <houlala> thx
[07:23] <eck>       Save the file and restart your computer
[07:23] <jmibanez> anyone? is there a way to trick alsa into using another control as the master?
[07:23] <yaaa> gh
[07:23] <Rorviker> I got a rocketraid 454 card (HPT374
[07:23] <Rorviker> chipset
[07:23] <Rorviker> ops
[07:23] <gnomefreak> eck: pastebin please not in here
[07:23] <LinuxJones> ouch
[07:24] <eck> gnomefreak: sorry, won't happen again
[07:24] <yaaa> eck, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:24] <eck> yaaa: thanks for the link
[07:24] <yaaa> ;)
[07:24] <amias> jmibanez, yes , define a slave in your .asoundrc
[07:24] <houlala> gonna try this
[07:24] <houlala> see u guys if it doesn't work, else, thanks a lot ^^
[07:24] <houlala> cya
[07:24] <jmibanez> amias, can it be done globally? is there an analog to .asoundrc in /etc ?
[07:24] <jmibanez> (hrm, time to hit the manpages)
[07:25] <yaaa> hi guys, i'm installing ubuntu on my ibookg4. does anyone know what kernel modules are useful?
[07:25] <jmibanez> amias, thanks
[07:25] <Rorviker> I got a rocketraid 454 card (HPT374 chipset) supported by kernel 2.4.2 and newer, have made an array of 6 disks. When booting into ubuntu I only see my 6 disks "stand-alone" and not raided. Could anyone help me out ?
[07:25] <yaaa> for example, via82cxxx doesn't seem useful
[07:29] <amias> jmibanez, no its per user afaict - for more info see http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php
[07:29] <meshe> LinuxJones: you're right, sorry Jay
[07:30] <kingspawn> yaaa: If you havent got a via82- soundchipset, its not
[07:30] <pad> Can Totem be made to play .wmv streams?
[07:30] <LinuxJones> meshe: :)
[07:30] <jmibanez> amias, apparently, you can edit in /etc/asound.conf
[07:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell pad about w32codecs
[07:30] <jmibanez> amias, i'm reading that now, before you pointed it out :)
[07:30] <meshe> sometimes easy to forget the time when you were just learning linux
[07:30] <amias> jmibanez,  aah cool thanks for the tip , great minds etc ...
[07:31] <pad> thank you gnomefreak
[07:31] <gnomefreak> yw pad
[07:31] <yaaa> kingspawn, i _think_ i haven't a via82- chipset :)
[07:31] <amias> Rorviker,  did you make the RAID in the RAID BIOS or did you do it in ubuntu ?
[07:31] <shizzz> so can anyone tell me which editor they prefer (Vim or Emacs) and why they prefer it. Vim looks sweet but im not sure
[07:32] <yaaa> ubotu tell yaaa about w32codecs
[07:32] <yaaa> wow
[07:32] <Rorviker> amias: I did it in the raid bios, have rebooted and checked the bios, and the array is fine and the size is correct there.
[07:32] <amias> yaaa,  there should be known configs for ibooks
[07:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell yaaa about msg the bot
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic
[07:32] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> shizzz,  learn vi.. because ya never know when you will have to use some minilal rescue disk/cd and HAVE to use vi.
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:32] <amias> Rorviker, is the raid card mentioned in the dmesg output ?
[07:32] <shizzz> im familar with vi i like vi
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> work time.. ta ta...
[07:32] <amias> huzzah for vi !
[07:33] <shizzz> thats why im thinking of upgrading to Vim
[07:33] <Rorviker> amias: I'm pretty new with linux, but dmesg | grep what   ?
[07:33] <kuttekind> i got a mayor problem with ubuntu on my 1692 wmli laptop. i've checked the wikipedia help site and it did not help me. i can't get my wlan or lan to work...
[07:33] <yaaa> tnx amias, i'm looking for them
[07:33] <shizzz> i read in the Vim docs that you can switch tfrom Vim operations to Vi operations at any time
[07:33] <amias> Rorviker, grep for HPT
[07:33] <Bensin> how can I upload a complete directory (with the structure intact) using ftp-command or lftp?
[07:34] <gnomefreak> upgrading to vim? ubuntu comes with vim installed
[07:34] <pad> Bye
[07:34] <eck> shizzz: the vim operations are mostly the same, but with more features and less quirks
[07:34] <amias> kuttekind, broadcom chipset by any chance ?
[07:34] <houlala> Hi again boiz ^^
[07:34] <shizzz> yeah thats what i read
[07:34] <shizzz> so you like the Vim then
[07:34] <shizzz> ok ill get that one
[07:34] <Bensin> (or can someone recommend a ftp-client with a GUI)
[07:34] <amias> Bensin, use gftp if you have gnome running
[07:34] <shizzz> looks good to me
[07:35] <eck> shizzz: as gnomefreak said, vim comes with ubuntu
[07:35] <alek> hi is there any version of skype for ubuntu?
[07:35] <houlala> my connection problem is very incredible ...
[07:35] <kuttekind> im a noob i don't even understand what u mean with broadcom chipset :P
[07:35] <gnomefreak> there is no vi for ubuntu installed by default (if any)
[07:35] <houlala> i can go on IRC ...
[07:35] <shizzz> oh i must have missed that
[07:35] <shizzz> one sec
[07:35] <houlala> i can ping google
[07:35] <eck> shizzz: it's part of the base install
[07:35] <kuttekind> wait
[07:35] <houlala> but i can go on google with firefox ^^
[07:35] <shizzz> what version?
[07:35] <kuttekind> im going to google it
[07:35] <amias> kuttekind, the people who made the chips have refused to tell open source people how they work so there are no drivers
[07:35] <houlala> i cant *
[07:35] <eck> apt-cache show vim
[07:35] <Rorviker> amias: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13024 , that's what it found. seems like it found the controller.
[07:36] <DBO> houlala, can you go there with other browsers?
[07:36] <gnomefreak> houlala: try w3m
[07:36] <shizzz> eck do you know what version?
[07:36] <kuttekind> oh thats really cute of them bastards
[07:36] <Rorviker> amias: I got something in /dev called "hpet" but can't fdisk it
[07:36] <houlala> i try with other browsers, wait
[07:36] <amias> kuttekind, yep - send them a nasty email
[07:36] <kuttekind> :
[07:36] <kuttekind> :)*
[07:36] <yaaa> amias, any ideas where i can find information about chipset in my ibook?
[07:36] <eck> shizzz: apt-cache show vim will tell you.  on my computer running dapper the version is 6.4-006+2ubuntu3
[07:36] <kuttekind> but on wikipedia it said that it didn't need any configuration
[07:36] <houlala> it's ok with w3m (but a bit long)
[07:37] <gnomefreak> apt-cache policy will show you everything ;)
[07:37] <kuttekind> well no extra work
[07:37] <houlala> trying with nautilus
[07:37] <shizzz> is there a place that lists all of the apt- functions
[07:37] <kuttekind> but
[07:37] <gnomefreak> shizzz: man apt-get
[07:37] <amias> yaaa,  not taken the piss but there are 201,000 results for http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ibook+linux+kernel+config
[07:37] <kuttekind> *sigh*
[07:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell shizzz about apt
[07:37] <DBO> shizzz, apt-<tab><tab>
[07:37] <shizzz> lol true
[07:37] <shizzz> thanks
[07:38] <kuttekind> lol
[07:38] <houlala> hu, nautilus is not a web browser ?
[07:38] <houlala> just file browser ?
[07:38] <DBO> you got it
[07:38] <shizzz> what does apt stand for anyway?
[07:38] <amias> kuttekind,  if you do stat /dev/hpet what are the major and minor numbers ?
[07:38] <shizzz> thanks DBO
[07:38] <irvined> shizzz, advanced package tool (From memory)
[07:39] <kuttekind> okay just a sec going in terminal
[07:39] <shizzz> thank you
[07:39] <yaaa> amias, thank you, look to a kernel config file is a great idea
[07:39] <lcore> shizzz: whatis apt
[07:39] <na7e> will ubuntu install on the new macbooks?
[07:39] <amias> yaaa, np :)
[07:39] <x1n933k> Is there a package to get csh with ubuntu?
[07:39] <DBO> na7e, with bootcamp it will
[07:39] <produkt_> how do I enable opengl?
[07:39] <steve343> ok what size does a boot partion have to be for grub?
[07:39] <DBO> produkt_, have you installed your video drivers?
[07:39] <produkt_> nvidia
[07:39] <houlala> gaim doesnt work :(
[07:40] <amias> yaaa, make sure you google for the right ibook version
[07:40] <kuttekind> lol no such file or directory
[07:40] <na7e> steve343, there isn't a reason to split up the boot partition anymore
[07:40] <produkt_> the drivers were pre-installed, already working
[07:40] <Rorviker> amias: was the stat /dev/hept message for me and not kuttekind ?
[07:40] <amias> x1n933k,  sudo apt-get install csh
[07:40] <houlala> gonna try something else ^^
[07:40] <steve343> :s doesnt say that in your install docs
[07:40] <DBO> produkt_, you need to install nvidia's closed source drivers to get 3D working
[07:40] <houlala> cya
[07:40] <steve343> what do i do then?
[07:40] <DBO> !tell produkt_ about nvidia
[07:40] <produkt_> ahhh ok, will do
[07:40] <amias> Rorviker, oops yes sorry getting tangled
[07:40] <produkt_> thank you
[07:41] <x1n933k> amias: How come it isn't listed in aptitude? :D
[07:41] <chip42> produkt_: the answer is you will have to get the latest nvidia drivers and install them... i wouldn't trust the ones that came installed.. they are most likely 2d only and if not, then they are just old, packaged versions of nvidias driver
[07:41] <steve343> is ext3 ok as my boot
[07:41] <kuttekind> ^^
[07:41] <steve343> will it still boot windows
[07:41] <na7e> steve343, yes, but ext2 will do
[07:41] <amias> x1n933k,  dunno , you might not have seen it
[07:42] <ubuntu> test
[07:42] <DBO> confirmed
[07:42] <DBO> oh this will be good
[07:42] <Rorviker> amias: no wonder lot of messeging here, hard to kep up. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13027 <-- theres the output... size:0
[07:43] <x1n933k> amias Thanks
[07:43] <x1n933k> Doesn't want to work ATM
[07:43] <x1n933k> Though*
[07:43] <kuttekind> okay i've set the properties of my wireless because i havent really properly checked that connection
[07:43] <steve343> no i mean if i dont need a boot partition do i just let my main ext3 have the boot flag
[07:43] <amias> x1n933k, network ?
[07:43] <cfh_dev> What authentication do I use when the CUPS web admin asks for login?
[07:44] <amias> steve343, yes - whichever partition has your /boot directory in it
[07:45] <steve343> :s i really not confident about this
[07:45] <kuttekind> dont worry
[07:45] <shizzz> hey does your version of vim have split window features, syntax highlighting etc.. ?
[07:45] <x1n933k> amias: not sure,  I'm going to reboot. try again. but if the package is there I should find it
[07:45] <shizzz> DBO
[07:45] <kuttekind> the worst you can do is scratch your install cd :p
[07:45] <slavik> steve343: upgrading to dapper?
[07:45] <x1n933k> amias: unless it isn't available for the PPC version
[07:45] <steve343> so i do need a seperate partition for a boot loader?
[07:45] <DBO> shizzz, no
[07:45] <eck> shizzz: you need to enable some of those things in your .vimrc
[07:46] <steve343> yeah :S everything is backed up i just dont wanna waste more time
[07:46] <napsy> hello. why is the position slider in rhythmbox disabled when playing a song?
[07:46] <slavik> DBO: is there a way to create a package that installs along side an existing package?
[07:46] <Hexidigital> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13028 ->> i'm having a problem with Postfix, Sendmail or Mutt... can someone help? (i get around 60 of these a day
[07:46] <r0xoR> when i do "System Tools -> New Login" my resolv.conf gets overwritten as if it were trying to use DHCP
[07:46] <shizzz> so those features are available inmy version i just have to ctivate them?
[07:46] <r0xoR> what is going on with that?
[07:46] <eck> shizzz: you might want to try using vim-gnome or vim-gtk
[07:46] <DBO> slavik, you mean... like a dependancy?
[07:46] <slavik> DBO: I want to make an Anjuta 2.0 package so that it doen't replace anjuta 1.2
[07:46] <eck> shizzz: that way you can turn on and off features through a gui
[07:46] <shizzz> why?
[07:46] <amias> Rorviker,  aah , thats the high resolution timer not HPT raid
[07:46] <shizzz> ah
[07:46] <drexelxxxx> Anybody have a clue why the hell I used to be able to get an IP from DHCP on a LiveCD boot and now I can't?
[07:47] <r0xoR> and, once i've done New Login, how do i switch between the currently active logins
[07:47] <x1n933k> Okay, I tried package csh and it isn't there...
[07:47] <shizzz> well i dont mind i just need to learn one and use it
[07:47] <steve343> cos your network card is dead?
[07:47] <DBO> slavik, oh, yeah, just compile it so it installs in /opt/Anjuta2.0
[07:47] <drexelxxxx> no i'm on it now
[07:47] <r0xoR> drexelxxxx, nope sorry... that sounds like a hardware problem
[07:47] <steve343> hehe
[07:47] <shizzz> so i want to get want ever is easier to use once i learn it
[07:47] <chip42> eck: hrm. valid point.. but then if you need a gui maybe vim isn't the best choice..
[07:47] <drexelxxxx> i'm on the internet now
[07:47] <drexelxxxx> in ubuntu
[07:47] <steve343> i noticed
[07:47] <drexelxxxx> let me give you the whole story
[07:47] <slavik> DBO: k, ty ... going to compile glade 3 first :P
[07:47] <steve343> maybe you scratched the cd like i did
[07:47] <dominion> bon soir
[07:47] <raptros-v76> drexelxxxx: yeah please do
[07:48] <Rorviker> amias: okay, since it's hardware raid I should not need to install any drivers to get it working? I see my 6 disks listed in linux so should be working? any more ideas of what I can do to get it working ?
[07:48] <r0xoR> anyone? how do i switch logins? not just "new login" but there's gotta be a "switch login" functionality too
[07:48] <DBO> slavik, when you are doing the ./configure step, do ./configure --help, it will tell you how to add a prefix
[07:48] <x1n933k> r0xor: in gnome?
[07:48] <slavik> DBO: I know that :P did it lots in freebsd
[07:48] <irvined> ctrl+alt+F7 ctrl+alt+F8 etc
[07:48] <raptros-v76> r0xoR: there is a package to do that
[07:48] <r0xoR> x1n933k, yup
[07:48] <drexelxxxx> I updated MEPIS overnight and it sayed something about the certificates not being verified and I let it update overnight and after it did that I wasn't able to get to the internet from MEPIS or the Gentoo LiveCD
[07:48] <amias> Rorviker, reboot and check the RAID BIOS is configured to present a single drive
[07:48] <XiXaQ> is there any GUI for firewall configuration in the Ubuntu Live distribution?
[07:48] <irvined> r0xoR, ctrl+alt+F7 ctrl+alt+F8 etc
[07:48] <killbox> hello all
[07:48] <eck> chip42: I think it helps with the learning curve :-)  you have a lot more motivation to learn something once you've seen what i can do
[07:48] <Linu> someone speaks portuguese here?
[07:48] <steve343> right so before i write these partitions just to check i DONT need a boot partiotion?
[07:48] <DBO> slavik, sorry, I assume everyone needs everything spelled out for them, makes life easier around here
[07:48] <r0xoR> irvined, oh ok, so it opens the new login on a new "tty" so to speak
[07:48] <slavik> XiXaQ: firestarter is not tere?
[07:49] <amias> Rorviker, most of the HPT chipsets can be used as extra disk connectors in non raid mode
[07:49] <irvined> r0xoR, yeah
[07:49] <r0xoR> k
[07:49] <slavik> DBO: gentoo people are the other way
[07:49] <XiXaQ> slavik, what is that+
[07:49] <drexelxxxx> a LiveCD should always be right
[07:49] <steve343> and setting my main linux partition will let me load windows at startup ?
[07:49] <r0xoR> irvined, any idea why using that functionality would over-write my resolv.conf?
[07:49] <drexelxxxx> that is what I'm confused about
[07:49] <gnomefreak> !pt
[07:49] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:49] <Bensin> amias: Installing gFTP worked fine. Thanks!
[07:49] <slavik> XiXaQ: firestarter is a GUI for the firewall in the kernel
[07:49] <Rorviker> amias: I have checked twice, it's a raid5 array named rorry5
[07:49] <chip42> eck: very true. when i first saw vi demoed by a cs professor, he typed in like a hundred lines in less than a minute.. sort of an exageration but i was hooked after see that
[07:49] <irvined> r0xoR, got anything in your login scripts which do a dhclient or something like that?
[07:49] <r0xoR> Bensin, except that gFTP sux, but yeah
[07:49] <drexelxxxx> I switched from my router straight to the modem too
[07:49] <DBO> slavik, oh yes I know that, but Ubuntu's philosophy is different, which is why I personally think it has such a large (and decidedly friendly) user base
[07:50] <r0xoR> irvined, i don't know... where do i find my login scripts
[07:50] <slavik> chip42: vi is nice when you learn it ...
[07:50] <amias> Rorviker, can you paste your dmesg
[07:50] <slavik> DBO: exactly
[07:50] <gnomefreak> Linu:  read ubotus post above
[07:50] <r0xoR> irvined, i changed the settings in /etc/network/interfaces... so i figured that would do what i needed
[07:50] <Linu> ok.. tx
[07:50] <slavik> Rorviker: wait, don't paste
[07:50] <slavik> Rorviker: use pastebin
[07:50] <kuttekind> Boot with 'noapic' and 'hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false  <--- im already booting with noapic but how do i add the hw-detect thingy
[07:50] <slavik> paste it to pastebin
[07:50] <steve343> right well if this fails im gonna go finda another distro and just learn everything from the ground up
[07:50] <deluxe> hej can somebody help me with installing nubuntu? on the board is somthing about esspresso installer but i cannot install it cause apt get doesnt finds it and i cannot find it on the internet
[07:51] <deluxe> ?
[07:51] <slavik> DBO: is there a way to force my ethernet and wifi to keep the same namefrom boot to boot?
[07:51] <amias> steve343, easy on the emotional blackmail dude
[07:51] <slavik> because my wifi and eth can switch names (in dapper)
[07:51] <r0xoR> irvined, and it did, except i just did the "switch user" thing so my GF could check her email, logged out of her acct, back into mine, and DNS stopped working... i stayed connected to IRC (presumably because the connection is persistent and doesn't need the domain name except at first)
[07:51] <gnomefreak> deluxe: afaik nubuntu is _not_ a part of ubuntu
[07:51] <r0xoR> but google didn't resolve in firefox
[07:51] <Bensin> After installing new packets (using Synaptic Package Manager), the programs icon doesn't appear in the meny. It is visible (and the box is checked) in Gimp Menu Editor. Why?
[07:51] <deluxe> it isnt but it is based on it
[07:51] <slavik> deluxe: you are on ubuntu right now?
[07:51] <steve343> emotional
[07:52] <deluxe> i am on nubuntu right now
[07:52] <r0xoR> so i checked resolv.conf and my manual changes had been overwritten (overwritten in a manner to suggest that DHCP tried to run)
[07:52] <steve343> nothing emotional about it
[07:52] <deluxe> its like ubuntu with fluxbox
[07:52] <slavik> deluxe: see !repos
[07:52] <deluxe> its nice but without installer - its the live cd
[07:52] <deluxe> !repos
[07:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:52] <irvined> r0xoR, hmm, does it only happen when you log in or log out?
[07:52] <slavik> you need to add universe and multiverse
[07:52] <slavik> irvined: the DNS thing happens to me, too
[07:52] <amias> Bensin: not all packages have menu items
[07:52] <r0xoR> irvined, honestly i haven't really tested this case much...
[07:52] <gnomefreak> deluxe: i dont think thats a ubuntu branch i think that is a private person/group
[07:52] <Rorviker> amias: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13029 <-- dmesg
[07:52] <slavik> the thing for DNS
[07:53] <Hatred> sigh
[07:53] <r0xoR> irvined, it happened once... and i'm pretty sure i could prolly get it to happen again
[07:53] <deluxe> yes
[07:53] <misfit_toy> anybody know if K3B can span across multiple cd's when writing? for instance backing up a 4GB mp3 collection?
[07:53] <Sivik> hi all
[07:53] <deluxe> but thats now why im here :/
[07:53] <slavik> r0xoR: System -> Administration -> Networking
[07:53] <r0xoR> it really wouldn't be that big of a deal if DHCP actually retreived the correct nameservers, but it doesn't
[07:53] <slavik> open that
[07:53] <chip42> slavik: yup. i need to learn more of it. i have a solid grasp of the basic editing but the stuff this other guy was doing with it... scripting it to make modifications based on some previous definition... would have taken me a dozen individual commands what this dude was doing with a single entry :\
[07:53] <deluxe> well
[07:53] <deluxe> i have ubuntu 5.10
[07:53] <deluxe> but i would want fluxbox
[07:53] <slavik> chip42: that is regular expression
[07:53] <deluxe> somebody knows about that?
[07:53] <deluxe> :p
[07:53] <irvined> i switch users a lot, but i rarely log out, i tend to have 3 logins running, i dont have a problem with dns though, but i always use dhcp, if you want a 'quick' fix, then make /etc/resolv.conf immutable, chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf, better to find the route of the problem though
[07:53] <slavik> chip42: you should look up Perl :)
[07:54] <deluxe> cause gnome is lame and kde fucks me up...
[07:54] <gnomefreak> deluxe: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[07:54] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, hahah, hey buddy
[07:54] <deluxe> mhh
[07:54] <deluxe> but
[07:54] <gnomefreak> deluxe: language
[07:54] <DBO> !tell deluxe about language
[07:54] <misfit_toy> anybody know if K3B can span across multiple cd's when writing? for instance backing up a 4GB mp3 collection?
[07:54] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, you going to ATX fest?
[07:54] <deluxe> ok
[07:54] <deluxe> lol
[07:54] <misfit_toy> r0xoR, I wish
[07:54] <eck> deluxe: apt-get install fluxbox
[07:54] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, IBM offered me a job :)
[07:54] <deluxe> yeah but
[07:54] <deluxe> aaaah
[07:54] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, i turned them down... said it wasn't enough money
[07:54] <misfit_toy> r0xoR, fun fun, the life of a GIANT corp
[07:54] <amias> Rorviker, for what its worth software raid is just as fast and more reliable
[07:54] <chip42> slavik: bleh, i will tell you right now i hate regular expressions with a passion. :)  but you are right about that.. a perl tutorial or two would help use the vi functionality
[07:55] <gnomefreak> deluxe: nubuntu is _not_ ubuntu with flux its a livecd with security apps
[07:55] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, hehe, yeah well, technically they wanted to pay me less money to do twice as much work...
[07:55] <r0xoR> go figure
[07:55] <eck> deluxe: to be honst, i don't think debian/ubuntu are very fluxbox friendly
[07:55] <misfit_toy> r0xoR, what do you know about this:
[07:55] <misfit_toy> anybody know if K3B can span across multiple cd's when writing? for instance backing up a 4GB mp3 collection?
[07:55] <slavik> chip42: the reason I don't hate Java is because it has regex in the SDK
[07:55] <gnomefreak> eck: flux works fine in ubuntu
[07:55] <DBO> !tell misfit_toy about repeat
[07:55] <deluxe> so which distribution should i choose then? eck
[07:55] <Rorviker> amias: can you direct me to a good guide on how to set it up ? A step-2-step guide :)
[07:55] <gnomefreak> deluxe: maybe ubuntu?
[07:55] <amias> Rorviker, will find one
 deluxe: to be honst, i don't think debian/ubuntu are very fluxbox friendly
[07:56] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, hmmm... i know nothing of that... except that's what DVD's are for :P
[07:56] <Rorviker> thx alot
[07:56] <eck> gnomefreak: i was talking more about the number of fluxbox specific packages, and the way they generate the menus and so forth
[07:56] <chip42> slavik: ah. i should be learning to use them with java then.. at least then my studies will improve a subject matter i get graded on
[07:56] <slavik> chip42: Java regex are very close to perl ...
[07:56] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, anyway, i had my first practice with the full band last night... very interesting
[07:56] <gnomefreak> ah yeah there isnt alot but that might have alot to do with the (lightness)
[07:56] <deluxe> eck?
[07:56] <Bensin> amias, but why is the icon visible in Gnome Menu editor?
[07:56] <eck> deluxe: when I as using fluxbox, I liked gentoo, but running that is kind of a committment
[07:56] <slavik> except in Java, you have to make 2 backslashes instead of one (because the compiler converts them
[07:56] <i3dmaster> how to point firefox to use an alternative java?
[07:57] <eck> deluxe: or you can just build packages yourself and keep using ubuntu
[07:57] <deluxe> i had had gentoo but dont want do install "per hand" again
[07:57] <deluxe> nah
[07:57] <Hatred> f
[07:57] <deluxe> is there no way to install nubuntu with graphical?
[07:57] <gnomefreak> deluxe: you would have to check with #gentoo but i beleive they have an installer now
[07:57] <deluxe> i have not that much time any more
[07:57] <jarle> How do I install the old nvidia legacy gfx-driver for my Geforce 2 Pro, I can't seem to find it on nvidia.com ?
[07:57] <deluxe> they have but it doesnt work!
[07:57] <steve343> isnt there a server option at the start
[07:57] <amias> Rorviker, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2557.html should do it
[07:57] <deluxe> its abbording...
[07:58] <Sivik> what is another command that works similar to dhclient
[07:58] <scifi> does anyone know if dapper boots up quicker than breezy ?
[07:58] <slavik> jarle: I am sure you can use the latest nvidia driver
[07:58] <slavik> scifi: I like to think so ;)
[07:58] <gnomefreak> deluxe: install ubuntu than run sudo apt-get isntall fluxbox and poof you have ubuntu with fluxbox
[07:58] <amias> jarle, use ubuntu packages unless you like long compiles and dependency hunting
[07:58] <eck> deluxe: if you don't want to use gnome/kde/xfce you sort of need to be prepared to spend some time getting things working how you want them to
[07:58] <Rorviker> amias: thx alot, what filesystem should I run, ext3 og reiserfs ? It's gonna be 1TB..
[07:58] <scifi> slavik: so is that yes then ? :)
[07:58] <jarle> slavik: no you can't, the old GPUs are not supported in the newest drivers
[07:58] <amias> Rorviker, ext3 unless you are going to have lots of small files
[07:59] <slavik> jarle: they aren't? that sux
[07:59] <Rorviker> It's gonna be mixed
[07:59] <slavik> scifi: I have not done any testing
[07:59] <jarle> amias: which package?
[07:59] <Rorviker> So I guess ext3 then
[07:59] <polpak> Rorviker, I like xfs myself
[07:59] <atiro> Rorviker: reiserfs takes way longer to mount too... which may be a problem for 1TB
[07:59] <Linu> I  would like to know how to use 2 monitors
[07:59] <amias> Rorviker, if you are ever going to divide it up have a look at LVM
[07:59] <steve343> howed you get a 1tb drive
[07:59] <Linu> can you help me?
[07:59] <slavik> scifi: but I haven't noticed a difference, not that breezy was booting slow ...
[07:59] <usuari> hiiiiiii
[07:59] <Sivik> scifi: its about the same on my machine
[08:00] <scifi> dam ok
[08:00] <Rorviker> steve343: raid ?
[08:00] <Rorviker> raid5 with 6*200GB
[08:00] <steve343> is a tb 100 gb or a thousand?
[08:00] <jarle> slavik: from the README of the latest driver: "Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver. These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA GPU driver releases."
[08:00] <scifi> its not REALLY slow, but loading modules does seem to take longer than say a XP boot-up
[08:00] <Linu> nobody?
[08:00] <steve343> ahhh
[08:00] <Sivik> steve: 1000 gb = 1 tb
[08:00] <jarle> slavik: but I can't seem to find the legacy driver..
[08:00] <amias> jarle, apt-get install nvidia-glx should get it all working , then check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf is using the nvidia not nv driver
[08:00] <Linu> ok.. thanks
[08:00] <steve343> yikes thats a lot of ..... data
[08:00] <scifi> u suspect they are working on that tho ?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> Sivik: not 1028?
[08:00] <slavik> jarle: weird ... I use ati :P
[08:01] <chip42> jarle: i grabbed a driver from the archives. it was't labeled legacy but it was old and it worked
[08:01] <Linu> you are orsons
[08:01] <slavik> 1024
[08:01] <gnomefreak> that too even
[08:01] <Sivik> gnome: its really 1024 but its understood just to be 1000
[08:01] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:01] <slavik> 1024GiB = 1 TiB, 1000GB=1TB
[08:01] <chip42> jarle: i think if you look closely, there should be some mention in the changelog when the legacy support was removed from the new driver
[08:01] <jarle> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy seems to do the trick...
[08:01] <slavik> Sivik: depends on the system
[08:01] <slavik> Sivik: in SI it's 1024
[08:01] <amias> Sivik, i've we are playing pedantry then its actually more like  1024x1024x1024
[08:01] <Sivik> slavik: thats true but the scientific terms 1 T is 1000 Gig
[08:02] <slavik> Sivik: no
[08:02] <slavik> Sivik: 1TiB = 1024GiB in scientific system
[08:02] <Sivik> thats true
[08:02] <slavik> all others are 1000 and such
[08:02] <Sivik> yeah
[08:02] <scifi> is there any channel for asking about future ubuntu developments ?
[08:02] <slavik> they changed it just for computers
[08:02] <Sivik> yeah
[08:02] <slavik> scifi: #ubuntu+1
[08:02] <Sivik> i know
[08:03] <Sivik> but most people just think a TiB is 1000 GB
[08:03] <chip42> the commerical system, short changing you 24 bytes to the kb. what a scam
[08:03] <amias> i think there is also #ubuntu-pedantry
[08:03] <slavik> so, 1KiB = 1024 bytes, 1KB = 1000bytes
[08:03] <scifi> slavik: thought that was just for dapper users, but ok thnx
[08:03] <slavik> kibi vs. kilo
[08:03] <kingspawn> I cant stand KiB
[08:03] <slavik> scifi: well, there is dapper+1
[08:03] <Sivik> yeah
[08:04] <slavik> because 4GiB is actually 4.5GB
[08:04] <dxdemetriou> hi
[08:04] <scifi> slavik: dapper+1 empty :P
[08:04] <ubuntu> hi
[08:05] <produkt_> heeelp debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[08:05] <slavik> scifi: , hmm ... there is a forum ...
[08:05] <AnsiC> how can i have fucking precompiled kernel 2.6.11.12 modules
[08:05] <produkt_> what I do wrong?
[08:05] <AnsiC> i'm stressed to recompile recompile e recompile
[08:05] <slavik> !language
[08:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[08:05] <Spec> scifi: you could bug people in ubuntu-motu
[08:05] <AnsiC> go in 30000 channels
[08:05] <AnsiC> and read that everiwhare is offtopic
[08:05] <amias> produkt_, dunno - try lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat to see what is locking it
[08:05] <AnsiC> everyware
[08:06] <slavik> AnsiC: why do you need those old modules?
[08:06] <Adyeths> anyone here who might be able to answer a configuration question regarding printers in Dapper?
[08:06] <Spec> Adyeths: your best bet would be to look at the forums
[08:06] <amias> Adyeths,  only if you ask it
[08:06] <AnsiC> becouse i can write
[08:06] <AnsiC> make modules_install
[08:06] <AnsiC> and
[08:06] <r3boot> hi there :) Just a quick question. Does anybody have dapper X.org working with xinerama, the radeon driver and a radeon mobility 7000m ?
[08:06] <AnsiC> make install
[08:06] <steve343> well that was much more effort than it needed to be im such a dumb ass
[08:06] <scifi> Spec: is that the developers channel ?
[08:06] <napsy> Why is the position slider in rhythmbox disabled when playing a song? rhythmbox version is 0.9.4
[08:06] <Spec> it's the masters of the universe channel
[08:06] <AnsiC> not make me obsession or 3000 questions about modules
[08:06] <slavik> r3boot: to install the ati driver, tou have to set X_VERSION = x690
[08:07] <amias> AnsiC, calm down and explain your problem , we are trying to help and are not the cause of it
[08:07] <Adyeths> I'm trying to configure the printers in Dapper. The printer configuration seems to show my real printer twice. And I'm trying to configure the cups-pdf but it isn't detected.
[08:07] <steve343> how come the booting thingys changed since when i last tried linux is it a hardware change?
[08:08] <AnsiC> problem 1, i do not want have to much problem
[08:08] <slavik> steve343: there are lots of "boot thingys"
[08:08] <AnsiC> 2 i want image kernel
[08:08] <steve343> lol
[08:08] <AnsiC> 2 i want modules
[08:08] <AnsiC> so, vbersion 2.6.11.12
[08:08] <slavik> which one you mean?
[08:08] <AnsiC> not othe
[08:08] <AnsiC> other
[08:08] <AnsiC> make[4] : *** [drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88-cards.o]  Error 1
[08:08] <amias> steve343,  thats an unanswerable question
[08:08] <steve343> its a stupid question
[08:09] <AnsiC> i do not write the lust 3 error but i related to the same modules
[08:09] <Spec> booting thingies....hmmm
[08:09] <AnsiC> and i do not whant to read: use nopaste
[08:09] <AnsiC> so i write only one
[08:09] <amias> please don't kick the thingys , we like them
[08:09] <scifi> folks in dapper channel saying there systems boot significantly faster (10-20secs) than breezy
[08:10] <steve343> well im looking farward to rying blender in linux
[08:10] <r3boot> slavik, I cannot use the fglrx driver since i've got a Radeon Mobility 7500
[08:10] <amias> AnsiC,  i'm guessing english is not your first language ,  have you tried looking for a support channel in another language
[08:10] <steve343> thanks
[08:10] <dxdemetriou> Is there any way to work the tvcard avertv go 007 in 5.10? It is the only reason that I have Windows yet..
[08:10] <amias> scifi, it does seem much quicker for me
[08:10] <AnsiC> my fucking language is italian
[08:10] <slavik> r3boot: the driver doesn't support your card?
[08:11] <slavik> !it
[08:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:11] <ds[de] > !it
[08:11] <_jason> !language
[08:11] <Sivik> whats with the nasty language AnsiC?
[08:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[08:11] <r3boot> slavik, unfortunately not no :(
[08:11] <slavik> r3boot: I'd tell ati to move their bttocks
[08:11] <scifi> ok amias, sounds promising then
[08:11] <slavik> r3boot: isn't there the radeon or ati driver for your card?
[08:11] <AnsiC> i do not speack nasty
[08:11] <AnsiC> i speack italian
[08:11] <TSP_MV> Hello
[08:12] <TSP_MV> i need help installing azureus in DD beta
[08:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell AnsiC about enter
[08:12] <Sivik> the use of the F work is not needed
[08:12] <chamo> hello
[08:12] <Sivik> ansic: what do you need help with
[08:12] <slavik> Sivik: format?
[08:12] <TSP_MV> i try the how tos in ubuntu forums but i have problem installing java
[08:12] <Sivik> do what slavik?
[08:12] <r3boot> slavik, there is the x.org radeon driver which works. ATI doesn't and will not fix their driver for the m7 :/ "We will not support older versions of these cards"
[08:12] <s-ndh-c> hey
[08:12] <_jason> TSP_MV: there are javadebs ready-made for you
[08:12] <scifi> anyone know a good link that lists all the ubuntu commands, ive seen the wiki ones, but they only shows the basics.
[08:12] <amias> AnsiC, please go to #ubuntu-it  and ask them
[08:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell TSP_MV about javadebs
[08:12] <Jay> how do i turn off iptables?
[08:12] <slavik> Sivik: you said something about a bad f word ... are you talking about 'format'?
[08:12] <s-ndh-c> is it normal that mod-php5 doesnt work on dapper?
[08:13] <Sivik> slavik: no, i mean jews
[08:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell scifi about cli
[08:13] <Sivik> you can say jews
[08:13] <Sivik> :)
[08:13] <AnsiC> is not different
[08:13] <TSP_MV> but i need to configure have right?
[08:13] <_jason> scifi: tldp.org's advanced bash scripting guide is good too
[08:13] <Sivik> AnsiC: what do you need help with?
[08:13] <raptros-v76> Jay: why?
[08:13] <AnsiC> the people can not help me
[08:13] <AnsiC> i do not need much help
[08:13] <r3boot> slavik, thing is, it works perfectly under breezy, and it's a showstopper for me at the moment (I tried an RC some time ago and just couldn't get the same configuration working)
[08:13] <Jay> some people who are helping me said that i should try that, so i can connect with sshd
[08:13] <AnsiC> just precompiled modules
[08:14] <amias> AnsiC, and they won't if you swear at them and don't tell them what your problem is
[08:14] <AnsiC> becous i'm stressed to recompile whit errors
[08:14] <Sivik> what errors are you getting?
[08:14] <AnsiC> make[4] : *** [drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88-cards.o]  Error 1
[08:14] <roryy> Jay: by default the firewall is (effectively) inactive
[08:14] <AnsiC> that tell all
[08:14] <scifi> jason: hmm those 1st links apart from the basic ubuntu ones are general linux, will they all work in ubuntu too ?
[08:15] <_jason> scifi: they're bash
[08:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell scifi about apt
[08:15] <amias> AnsiC, have you looked at the code and emailed the maintainer ?
[08:15] <Reddragon> Hello all just wanted to say as a die hard debian user and starting to learn server setup and administration ubuntu is fantastic
[08:15] <AnsiC> i think the tomorrow somebody tall me: write all kernel source manually
[08:15] <_jason> scifi: really depends on what commands you are talking about, see :)
[08:15] <amias> Reddragon,  :)
[08:16] <raptros-v76> Jay: dont
[08:16] <Reddragon> Ubuntu is is not resource heavy as debian workstation setup. I am looking forward to learning and participating
[08:16] <raptros-v76> Jay: its stupid
[08:16] <AnsiC> emailed?
[08:16] <AnsiC> i have to much problems
[08:17] <AnsiC> i have no interesse to sent mail
[08:17] <dxdemetriou> Can I use the kernel from Dapper or Debian in Breezy?
[08:17] <amias> AnsiC,  yes , look at the source code , it wil tell you who wrote it and they might help you , if you are nice to them
[08:17] <sethk> Jay, unless you've played with iptables, ssh is not blocked
[08:17] <Reddragon> Could some one tell me the best way to edit such things as host files and apache files with the gui? Or is this a bad idea
[08:17] <sethk> Jay, I do in fact turn off iptables, because I have a real firewall.  There may be reasons to turn it off, but using ssh is not one of them
[08:18] <_jason> Reddragon: gksudo 'gedit /path/to/file'
[08:18] <roryy> Reddragon: i'm don't think there are special gui's for those (i may be wrong)
[08:18] <amias> AnsiC, in which case i have no interesse to help you anymore , why should i fix your problems if you are just going to behave like a spoilt kid
[08:18] <crimsun> dxdemetriou: from Debian, yes. From Dapper, not easily, since Dapper's has an implicit dependency on Dapper's udev.
[08:18] <AnsiC> look kernel sources?
[08:18] <AnsiC> but are you jocking?
[08:18] <AnsiC> i must to go up himalaia or what ?
[08:18] <Reddragon> thank you
[08:18] <Reddragon> _janson thanks
[08:18] <LinuxJones> Reddragon: using gui's is ok for initial configuration but usually you manage servers from a terminal. Gui's are good to learn from as well :)
[08:18] <_jason> Reddragon: np, I'm not sure if that's exactly what you were looking for
[08:19] <AnsiC> i'm not a devicebuilder
[08:19] <eni191> join
[08:19] <eni191> test
[08:19] <Reddragon> That was my purpose for installing ubuntu Linux Jones and in fact since I build winblows machines I am adding ubuntu to my pc builds in the future
[08:19] <dxdemetriou> crimsun: I tried to compile the kernel from source, it were ok, but not the ip tables, and maybe others I didn't see. From Debian it will be ok for all system and programs, or I must take the source from Debian?
[08:20] <Reddragon> Jason, yes that is what I needed.
[08:20] <amias> Reddragon, Network settings will give you a gui to setup your hosts file
[08:20] <scifi> jason: im generally after commands that tell u info about ur system, like networking etc
[08:20] <LinuxJones> Reddragon: excellent
[08:20] <crimsun> dxdemetriou: src-only, compile in a Ubuntu pbuilder.
[08:20] <LinuxJones> Reddragon: your going to be rolling out Ubuntu pc's in fairly large numbers ?
[08:21] <dxdemetriou> crimsun: thanks for the help :)
[08:21] <eck> scifi: use apropos or man -k
[08:21] <XiXaQ> what is the name of the Norwegian Ubuntu channel?
[08:21] <kuttekind> has anyone has any experience here with an acer aspire 1692 wmli?
[08:21] <Reddragon> Jason, is this typed in the terminal I am very new so please forgive my questions
[08:22] <scifi> eck/jason: ok will try them also www.linuxcommand.org is gud
[08:22] <LinuxJones> kuttekind: I have a 5002 wlmi I dunno how closely related they are.
[08:22] <Reddragon> thanks amias. now wish I new how to reply to you guys without typing your names.
[08:22] <roryy> XiXaQ: i see a #ubuntu-no -- only 11 people, though
[08:22] <kuttekind> yeah well u don't have any network problems do you?
[08:23] <kuttekind> @ LinuxJones
[08:23] <raptros-v76> Reddragon: hit tab(i think)
[08:23] <XiXaQ> roryy, thanks. :) I tried #ubuntu.no and #ubuntu-norge :)
[08:23] <Reddragon> Linux Jones well  for now it a live cd I am giving to some of my friends mostly of which are large business.
[08:23] <eck> scifi: eventually you will probably want to buy a book
[08:23] <raptros-v76> Reddragon: which client are u using? if your using xchat, use tab
[08:24] <scifi> eck: Haha, had a feeling that might be the case
[08:24] <mastertsunami> anyone know how to check the current graphic depth?
[08:24] <mastertsunami> i set it to default to 24 bit but i think it is only in 16 :(
[08:25] <eck> scifi: i'm partial to the linux administration handbook by evi nemeth, but if you are more interested in shell scripting i had heard the oreilly books are good
[08:25] <amias> mastertsunami, have a look at your X logs - /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:26] <Reddragon> Lol tabbing away hmmm
[08:26] <raptros-v76> Reddragon: have fun with that
[08:27] <mastertsunami> (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
[08:27] <Reddragon> I take it I am doing it correctly. Thanks everyone. Gotta go back to this learning. I hope I can give just half back to linux
[08:28] <mastertsunami> so it is apparently working, yet every time i close my terminal client which is set at 24 bit i get an error message saying that I'm reverting from 24 bit to 16bit :|
[08:28] <raptros-v76> Reddragon: just by using linux, you help it
[08:28] <Reddragon> I am not sure if you seen my reply my aplogies for being a newbie and sometime rather lame on simple things
[08:29] <raptros-v76> hitting tab will autocomplete usernames
[08:29] <klm> why on earth are all video files encrypted in aMule these days
[08:30] <raptros-v76> Reddragon: to message a person so only that person can see it, use /msg <nickname> <message>
[08:30] <amias> mastertsunami, all applications on an x display will run at the same bit depth
[08:30] <Reddragon> thanks I am going to setup vhcs virtual hosting on this machine and build an install tutorial on the installed server.
[08:30] <mastertsunami> well that is the error i get so i don't know :/
[08:32] <amias> Rorviker, any joy ?
[08:32] <binil> how do i add .rar extract support in ubuntu
[08:33] <Rorviker> amias: no :(
[08:33] <Sivik> you can use tar
[08:33] <roryy> !rar
[08:33] <ubotu> somebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:33] <Rorviker> amias: I'm just confused
[08:33] <der0b> is there anything special I should do before installing a new video card?
[08:33] <Sivik> not really
[08:33] <Sivik> what is the new video card?
[08:33] <Sivik> turn the computer off maybe
[08:33] <binil> any gui tool for extracting rar?
[08:33] <der0b> it's an old nvidia
[08:33] <roryy> binil: read that wikipage
[08:33] <Rorviker> amias: What c compilers do I need to install ? trying to get dmraid installed now
[08:33] <der0b> gotta be better than the onboaed intel though
[08:33] <amias> Rorviker, apt-get install build-essential
[08:33] <Reddragon> Still feeling my way around
[08:34] <Flannel> Rorviker: build-essentials should do it (it's a package name)
[08:34] <Rorviker> ;:)
[08:34] <binil> ok
[08:34] <Rorviker> amias: I got the latest ubuntu version, do I need to rebuild my kernel ?
[08:34] <binil> is there any offline dictionary available?
[08:34] <amias> Rorviker, have you tried the ubuntu package for dmraid ? apt-get install dmraid
[08:35] <amias> Rorviker, no the driver is build , dmraid is the tool for enabling and configuring it
[08:35] <Rorviker> amias: nothing found
[08:35] <Rorviker> the computer aint on internet now, just lan
[08:35] <LinuxJones> Reddragon: it takes about a month to start getting used to the way things are done in Linux :)
[08:35] <amias> Rorviker, how are you talking to me then ?
[08:35] <esac> hi, using beta2, live installer, I set it up to install and it has been sitting at 15% Detecting file systems... for about 10 minutes now.
[08:36] <_jason> !dapper
[08:36] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[08:36] <Rorviker> amias: My other computer
[08:36] <lanlan> can anyone help a nubbie with a mtab prob
[08:36] <amias> Rorviker, i will DCC you the .deb file for dmraid
[08:37] <Rorviker> amias: complicated, I got 2 networks. my neighbour have the internet so need to be wireless. The linux box only have cable.
[08:37] <amias> Rorviker, got a usb key or a floppy or a blank CD ?
[08:37] <Master_Shake_57> Is there a standalone program for changing KDE themes?
[08:37] <lanlan> newbi in need of help with mtab :)
[08:37] <Rorviker> amias: I have already burned it out, but that was the package mentioned in the howto
[08:37] <Rorviker> should be gooe enough ?
[08:38] <roryy> lanlan: please ask a specific question
[08:38] <shizzz> i have a question. is every application that is installed in ubuntu contained in a deb. package?
[08:38] <binil> is there any good english dictionary available?
[08:38] <knight__> anybody seen the new display for suse
[08:38] <amias> shizzz, yes
[08:39] <raptros-v76> unless you install a program from source
[08:39] <shizzz> lol thanks, so that means that every c app i make i ned to create a a package for it
[08:39] <LinuxJones> knight__: you mean their new Desktop ?
[08:39] <knight__> yes
[08:39] <knight__> with the 360 orkspace
[08:39] <LinuxJones> knight__: It's gonna be awesome
[08:39] <sk8az> can anyone tell me how to play dvix & xvid encoded videos, where to get codecs? (I use BMP)
[08:39] <lanlan> sure, i'm editing mtab as root, only to fine that after remounting the drive the changes i made disaprear
[08:40] <amias> shizzz, you don't have to but it will let you do uninstalls and upgrades better
[08:40] <lanlan> find
[08:40] <raptros-v76> shizzz: not really, and autoconf and stuff help you with that
[08:40] <knight__> LinnuxJones: do you know if they use a package for it
[08:40] <amias> ubotu, tell sk8az w32codecs
[08:40] <Frogzoo>  lanlan - leave mtab alone - /etc/fstab
[08:40] <Rorviker> amias: any chances you could help me further on pmsg ? hard to keep track in here.. Got no highlite on nicks
[08:40] <lanlan> whats the diffrence?
[08:40] <LinuxJones> knight__: Integrated beagle search they've done will be a standard on Linux within a year.
[08:41] <knight__> oh ok
[08:41] <Frogzoo> lanlan: mtab is for mount's inner working, fstab is the config file
[08:41] <LinuxJones> knight__: they don't have beta downloads of SLED yet in June I think.
[08:41] <shizzz> so like once i get my app compiled then i run it through autoconfig? what is this autocofig?
[08:41] <metzen> anyone know the command equivalent to pressing ctrl+alt+v2 to switch to vc/2 ?
[08:41] <eck> lanlan: http://www.brunolinux.com/02-The_Terminal/Fstab_and_Mtab.html
[08:41] <lanlan> roger that, thanks Frogzoo!
[08:41] <Frogzoo> lanlan: yw
[08:42] <knight__> LinuxJones: ok so this means it
[08:44] <soundray> sk8az: look out for ubotu's message about Windows codecs. Also, consider easyubuntu for installing codecs and other neat stuff.
[08:44] <soundray> !tell sk8az about w32codecs
[08:44] <soundray> !tell sk8az about easyubuntu
[08:45] <shizzz> raptros-v76: what is autoconf? or is that something that ill encounter while i learn to build c apps for ubuntu?
[08:45] <eck> shizzz: do a google search for autoconf
[08:45] <shizzz> ok
[08:45] <Adyeths> does anyone know where I can find information on how to get the cups-pdf thing configured in Dapper?
[08:45] <raptros-v76> shizzz: it is a developers tool to help make projects, usually used by an IDE
[08:46] <xbox_sky> Could not mount device.  The reported error was:  mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
[08:46] <xbox_sky> ?????
[08:46] <g0dch1ld> Hi, is there I can find out whether my ISP is blocking bittorrent traffic?
[08:46] <shizzz> thanks raptros-v76, ill leave you guys alone for a while
[08:46] <raptros-v76> shizzz: feel fre to hang out
[08:46] <exarkun> I can't install libffi4 because "libffi4: Depends: gcc-4.0-base (= 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) but 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed".
[08:46] <exarkun> What should I do?
[08:46] <g0dch1ld> i've done everything reccommended in the ubuntu guide to get the network settings firewalls etc correct-
[08:47] <g0dch1ld> nothing's worked so far.
[08:47] <g0dch1ld> :(
[08:47] <void^> g0dch1ld: what client are you using?
[08:48] <LinuxJones> g0dch1ld: your trying to set up Internet Connection Sharing ?
[08:48] <xbox_sky> cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[08:48] <xbox_sky> oh really
[08:48] <xbox_sky> a standard iso
[08:48] <xbox_sky> nice
[08:48] <xbox_sky> I love linux
[08:48] <amias> xbox_sky, me too :)
[08:48] <g0dch1ld> LinuxJones: nope, i am not- i've tried azureus, bittornado
[08:48] <xbox_sky> if it can't read a standard iso ..i'm screwed
[08:48] <g0dch1ld> and the default gnome-bittorrent client too
[08:49] <LinuxJones> g0dch1ld: your downloads are very slow or don't work at all ?
[08:49] <void^> g0dch1ld: for azureus you need to use sun or blackdown java, not the default gcj
[08:49] <raptros-v76> xbox_sky: is the disk dirty or scratched?
[08:49] <xbox_sky> raptros not at all, in fact i've only used the dvdr a few tiems
[08:49] <xbox_sky> times*
[08:49] <raptros-v76> oh, a dvd?
[08:49] <amias> xbox_sky,  ubuntu can read iso images , check your drive and media
[08:49] <g0dch1ld> dont work at all...so at someone's suggestion i tried firewalling and allowing specific ports for bittorrent service. didnt work that way either
[08:49] <xbox_sky> yeah
[08:49] <raptros-v76> use easyubuntu
[08:49] <raptros-v76> !easyubuntu
[08:49] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[08:50] <xbox_sky> I just tried a dvdr movie it worked
[08:50] <xbox_sky> and the disc works in windows
[08:50] <g0dch1ld> void^: I did it exactly as it was written in the ubuntu guide...i'll have to check up on the version though
[08:50] <xbox_sky> it's as standard iso data backup
[08:50] <xbox_sky> a*
[08:50] <raptros-v76> !tell xbox_sky about easyubuntu
[08:50] <g0dch1ld> i mean the java version.
[08:50] <soundray> xbox_sky: do you get any output from 'mount | grep hdd'?
[08:50] <g0dch1ld> dpkg -s java?
[08:50] <ompaul> !java
[08:50] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:50] <kuttekind> ...
[08:51] <xbox_sky> raptros what do I need easyubuntu for?
[08:51] <xbox_sky> soundray lemme check
[08:51] <xbox_sky> sounray, that command did nothing for me
[08:51] <ubuntu> hi
[08:51] <chamo> hello
[08:52] <xbox_sky> dmesg | tail gives me cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[08:52] <raptros-v76> ok, is your drive hooked in properly?
[08:52] <xbox_sky> raptros I can't recieve your pm
[08:52] <amias> xbox_sky, what type of disc is it ? CD , CD-R , DVD , DVD-RAM ?
[08:52] <xbox_sky> raptros lol yes, i've been using my dvd reader for months
[08:52] <xbox_sky> DVDR
[08:52] <raptros-v76> ok
[08:52] <xbox_sky> DVD-R
[08:53] <Cassidy123> can anyone here me?
[08:53] <xbox_sky> sorry guys i'm just pissed
[08:53] <Cassidy123> NO?
[08:53] <Cassidy123> CAN YOU GUYS FCUKING HEAR ME
[08:53] <Cassidy123> WELL FUCK YOU ALL
[08:53] <xbox_sky> omg
[08:53] <chip42> yeah. you thought you were pissed
[08:53] <amias> that was a close escape
[08:53] <ubuntu> i have a small file here but why does not become a script file when i paste it into a file and save it  http://pastebin.ca/52077
[08:53] <xbox_sky> hahhaa
[08:53] <turdwart> hi
[08:54] <turdwart> hello?
[08:54] <amias> lo
[08:54] <turdwart> ?
[08:54] <xbox_sky> i'm gonna do some reading in the ubuntu forums before I extend my reply, thanks raptor/amias/soundray and the rest for trying
[08:54] <turdwart> hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllo
[08:54] <raptros-v76> ok
[08:54] <turdwart> IN THE UBUNTU FORUMS SINKXDIE IS THAT BEST
[08:54] <turdwart> sorry for caps
[08:54] <scifi> do most of u experienced ubuntu users use anti-virus/firewall apps at all ?
[08:54] <amias> turdwart,  what do you want , other than a good hard slap ?
[08:54] <turdwart> no
[08:54] <turdwart> its waste of time
[08:54] <exarkun> Is the libffi4 package in breezy broken?  I can't install it.  It wants an uninstallable version of gcc-4.0-base.
[08:55] <turdwart> hi amias
[08:55] <turdwart> slap me!!!
[08:55] <kronoz> scifi: linux viruses are mainly confined to computer labs
[08:55] <soundray> scifi: no. Linux viruses are exceedingly rare.
[08:55] <raptros-v76> !tell turdwart about easyubuntu
[08:55] <ubuntu> ompual: hi
[08:55] <turdwart> haha
[08:55] <immolo> scifi, chkrootkit, aide/tripwire and iptables
[08:55] <turdwart> i dont need freakin easyubuntu
[08:55] <raptros-v76> i know
[08:55] <turdwart> lol
[08:55] <scifi> immolo ?
[08:56] <turdwart> irc is so boring go to ubuntuforums.org
[08:56] <raptros-v76> actually, if you think you dont need it, you do.  you need its pure love and happyness
[08:56] <turdwart> i actually dont...
[08:56] <immolo> those are pretty much all you need for a safe linux box as it's hackers you need to be careful of
[08:56] <turdwart> i have a router :)
[08:56] <ubuntu> i have a small file here but why does not become a script file when i paste it into a file and save it  http://pastebin.ca/52077
[08:57] <turdwart> because its mean
[08:57] <immolo> turdwart, my linux box is a router :P
[08:57] <turdwart> copy and paste the "contents"
[08:57] <ubuntu> turdwart: hahshahas
[08:57] <exarkun> ubuntuYou need to make it executable.  "chmod u+x filename"
[08:57] <turdwart> y r u pasting that?
[08:58] <ubuntu> exarkun yes i did that
[08:58] <turdwart> ?
[08:58] <turdwart> TURDwart
[08:58] <exarkun> ubuntu: And?
[08:58] <turdwart> time to go watch girls softball bye bye now
[08:58] <turdwart> Ctrl+q
[08:58] <raptros-v76> ok
[08:58] <turdwart> alt+q
[08:59] <amias> what is this nutter hour or something ?
[08:59] <raptros-v76> definatly
[08:59] <immolo> scifi, in the end its up to you although I would set a firewall but if your box is always on you may want to check no one is inside
[08:59] <ubuntu> exarkun well the thing is the file as a icon image has no black screen inside it the other script files do
[09:00] <slayer_> hello i am new to ubuntu and in general to Linux (aka only got it yesturday) well i saw the doc on GNU/open source movement and i had to get rid of my windows machine. Well to get to my question does anyone know a website i can go to learn about using the terminal/ understanding all the functions of Linux.
[09:00] <exarkun> ubuntu: The icon is mostly meaningless.  Did you give the filename a ".sh" extension?
[09:00] <raptros-v76> you dont need to
[09:00] <exarkun> ubuntu: The u+x and the "#!/bin/bash" is what actually makes it runnable as a script.
[09:00] <scifi> immolo: i am under the impression a router provides some kind of hardware firewall, so do i really need software firewall too  ?
[09:00] <raptros-v76> it automatically knows filetype from content
[09:00] <binil> any free english dictionary available for ubuntu>=???
[09:00] <ubuntu> exarkun are no i did not how to do that please
[09:01] <slayer_> scifi not if your interested in blocking ports/really monitoring it.
[09:01] <exarkun> ubuntu: Right click on it, pick "rename" or something like that.
[09:01] <Spec> exarkun: hello, you're a twisted dev right?
[09:01] <binil>  any free english dictionary available??????????
[09:01] <LinuxJones> slayer_: www.tldp.org is a good start
[09:02] <Spec> yes.
[09:02] <exarkun> Spec: yes :/
[09:02] <adleos> hi, anyone knows how to disable ACPI during Ubuntu installation in a laptop?
[09:02] <raptros-v76> ?
[09:02] <ubuntu>  exarkun; thanks for your help
[09:03] <GazzaK> is there a graphical way to mount a samba share?
[09:03] <ubuntu> binil; the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain
[09:03] <binil> ubuntu: whaaaaat?
[09:04] <ubuntu> binil: dictionary?
[09:04] <scifi> i have found firestarter already included in ubuntu, shud i just install that ?
[09:04] <adleos> ok thx anyway
[09:04] <binil> ubuntu: do u know about any free dictionary?
[09:04] <raptros-v76> !dictonary
[09:04] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, raptros-v76
[09:05] <raptros-v76> !standard.dic
[09:05] <ubotu> raptros-v76: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:05] <slayer_> does any1 know the correct way to partition your hard drive so you can have windows xp and ubuntu and still be able to dual boot.
[09:05] <Kennie> anyone know how i can check how big a dir is with all content
[09:05] <shoshe> ppl .. in need of help .. i just installed the ubuntu and got into gnome and now i dont know how to increase the resolution!
[09:06] <raptros-v76> slayer_: it does it when you install
[09:06] <shoshe> i tried it from preferences and it dosent give me option to increase the resolution more the640*480
[09:06] <raptros-v76> slayer_: otherwise, its not a good idea to do without help
[09:06] <shoshe> ppl .. in need of help .. i just installed the ubuntu and got into gnome and now i dont know how to increase the resolution!
[09:07] <scifi> i just installed firestarter but it doesnt appear in the Applications>system tools menu ?
[09:07] <highvoltage> scifi: click on system, then preferences, then screen resolution.
[09:07] <highvoltage> ah :/
[09:08] <cva> too quick on the tab
[09:09] <scifi> huh? that doesnt help
[09:09] <shoshe> Help needed . how do i Increase Screen Resolution if its not available in the preference menu
[09:09] <shoshe> ?
[09:09] <ompaul> !resolution
[09:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:09] <ompaul> shoshe, ^^^
[09:09] <cva> shoshe: click on system, then preferences, then screen resolution.
[09:10] <shoshe> i did that and it gives me only 640*480 . but i need 1024*768 ! and its not there
[09:10] <scifi> i just installed firestarter (ubuntu firewall) but it doesnt appear in the Applications>system tools menu ?
[09:10] <cva> shoshe: go to the wiki link above
[09:11] <selinium> hi ompaul :)
[09:11] <shoshe> cva, send the link again plz
[09:12] <cva> !resolution
[09:12] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:12] <DBO> scifi "killall gnome-panel"
[09:12] <shoshe> Got it . but dont u guyz think that i should get atleast a couple of options .. like 800*600 or 1024*768 ?
[09:13] <scifi> DBO: thx its there now :)
[09:13] <DBO> scifi, no prob =)
[09:13] <scifi> DBO: does that happen often ?
[09:13] <DBO> scifi, yeah, all the time really... its kinda annoying.  I cant name anything Qemu or it doesnt show up... were I not lazy I would make a bug report
[09:13] <amias> shoshe, maybe the installer couldn't work out how much graphics memory your card has or didn't detect you monitor properly
[09:13] <Iczer88> could anyone help me with my installation`??
[09:14] <scifi> hmmm maybe dapper has solved this prob
[09:14] <shoshe> amias, humm ..
[09:14] <Iczer88> could anyone help me with my installation?? having problems with it :S
[09:14] <DBO> scifi, I doubt it, this behavior is pretty low on the "to do" list...
[09:14] <DBO> whats wrong Iczer88
[09:15] <DBO> (btw Iczer88, in the future, just ask, dont ask to ask)
[09:15] <scifi> DBO: the firewall set-up asks to check the DHCP if i connect via cable/dsl, however now we have set-up static IP, so i dont check this setting ?
[09:15] <Iczer88> ubuntu dropps me to shell when its about to start :S
[09:15] <scifi> DHCP box*
[09:15] <AnsiC> make allmodconfig
[09:15] <AnsiC> i forgot it befor make modules
[09:15] <DBO> Iczer88, login and type "startx"
[09:16] <Iczer88> im getting "ALERT! /dev/hdd2 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[09:16] <DBO> scifi, you mean in the properties area?
[09:16] <Iczer88> cant
[09:16] <Iczer88> cant login
[09:16] <DBO> ah
[09:16] <Iczer88> im in some console busybox
[09:17] <scifi> DBO: yeh, the firewall wants to know if i connect via DHCP or not....so do i still or ? :P
[09:17] <DBO> not will be fine
[09:17] <Profichilla> huhu
[09:18] <DBO> Iczer88, I'm going to wait to see if someone with a little more ability to give your problem lots of attention takes the ball, if not, Ill jump in where I can
[09:18] <Iczer88> ok
[09:18] <Iczer88> il keep asking here for help then?
[09:19] <Iczer88> im getting "ALERT! /dev/hdd2 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" anybody know how to fix it?
[09:19] <amias> Iczer88,  what kind of machine are you using , hdd2 is not very normal
[09:19] <Iczer88> a PC
[09:19] <Iczer88> ?
[09:19] <Iczer88> or what do you mean?
[09:20] <amias> Iczer88,  yeees , what kind - desktop/laptop , model number , manufacturer
[09:20] <sinbox> :)
[09:20] <chip42> amias: it isn't? pretty normal to have to ide chains, two drives to a chain.. possible values of hda-hdd
[09:20] <Iczer88> desktop its a network but i changed about everthing soon
[09:20] <Iczer88> i got one SATA hdd and one IDE hdd
[09:21] <amias> chip42,  yeah but a second partition on the secondary slave is unusual
[09:21] <DBO> Iczer88, type "dpkg-reconfigure"
[09:21] <chip42> amias: i guess so. drives were made to be partitioned.. completely arbitrary
[09:21] <Iczer88> one problem is that the IDE is on the Secondery IDE
[09:22] <amias> Iczer88, do you have windows on there aswell ?
[09:22] <DBO> Iczer88, did you get any output (it should be an error) from my command (other than command not found)
[09:23] <Iczer88> not found
[09:23] <Iczer88> it says
[09:23] <Iczer88> yea
[09:23] <Iczer88> i got windows XP
[09:23] <Iczer88> should i remove windows xp and install linux first?
[09:23] <lutra> Iczer88: no install xp first then linux
[09:23] <Rorviker> windows firt
[09:23] <Iczer88> done that
[09:24] <DBO> Iczer88, do you have a liveboot?
[09:24] <amias> Iczer88, are you still in the install process or are you just reboooting ?
[09:24] <Iczer88> does it work with the IDE hdd on the secondery IDE?
[09:24] <Iczer88> not in the install
[09:24] <Iczer88> the install is finished, i get dropped to shell in the loading to ubuntu
[09:24] <Hexidigital> for me, the ideal pc would have a tri-boot of Windows XP Pro, MacOSX, and Linux
[09:25] <DBO> Hexidigital, so get a mactel
[09:25] <amias> Iczer88, yes it will , it just looked like the result of a bad install
[09:25] <Hexidigital> DBO... when i get my student loan this semester :)
[09:25] <Iczer88> ive resinstalled like 4 times
[09:25] <DBO> Iczer88, do you have a liveboot CD rom?
[09:25] <amias> Hexidigital,  anything with a processor that does sse3 wil do that fine
[09:25] <Iczer88> dont work :S
[09:25] <Iczer88> just alot of colours
[09:25] <DBO> O_o...
[09:26] <Hexidigital> amias, i'm not sure if my proc supports sse3... it's a northwood p4
[09:26] <Iczer88> but i got a knoppix live cd that works
[09:26] <Iczer88> does that work to?
[09:26] <amias> Hexidigital,  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:26] <DBO> Iczer88, it... might
[09:26] <Iczer88> what do i need to do when i get in with live?
[09:27] <DBO> Iczer88, get into knoppix, mount up your ubuntu disk, chroot into it, and type "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-<kernel version>"
[09:27] <Hexidigital> amias, nope... sse2 is the highest
[09:27] <DBO> I cant finish that command without knowing your kernel version
[09:27] <Iczer88> ok
[09:27] <DBO> if its straight off a ubuntu 5.10 disc, erm its...
[09:27] <Iczer88> i got version 5.10 of Ubuntu
[09:27] <amias> Hexidigital, it will work but some of the newer osx stuff wont be so quick
[09:28] <amias> anyway moff
[09:28] <DBO> try "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-9-386"
[09:28] <DBO> Iczer88 ^^
[09:28] <Iczer88> il do that as soon the live cd has started linux
[09:28] <DBO> make sure you chroot
[09:29] <Iczer88> ok
[09:29] <Iczer88> how do i mount the ubuntu drive?
[09:29] <mfyz> hi everybody
[09:29] <Iczer88> hi
[09:30] <Iczer88> ?
[09:30] <Iczer88> how do i mount the ubuntu drive?
[09:30] <DBO> Iczer88, "mkdir /mnt/hdd2" then "mount /dev/hdd2 /mnt/hdd2"
[09:30] <DBO> but chances are knoppix will beat you to it
[09:30] <mfyz> i want to install ubuntu flight 6 to my sister's notebook computer FROM live CD.. are there any problems for "expresso" installer?
[09:30] <DBO> !dapper
[09:30] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[09:30] <lutra> mfyz: it's quirky and in development
[09:30] <mfyz> umm
[09:31] <spliter> hello #plone! :)
[09:34] <Iczer88> how do i get root acces in knoppix?
[09:34] <DBO> you should already have root access
[09:34] <DBO> if not just type su
[09:34] <DBO> no password
[09:34] <Iczer88> it says only root can do that then i try mount
[09:34] <MHobbit> Try sudo mount ...
[09:34] <DBO> type "su" then hit enter
[09:34] <DBO> MHobbit, hes in knoppix
[09:34] <Iczer88> :)
[09:35] <deefzi> anyone running nforce/self-compiled kernel?
[09:35] <MHobbit> Ah, didn't see that part
[09:35] <DBO> deefzi, yes and yes
[09:35] <deefzi> DBO, do you use the drivers shipped by nvidia for your mobo?
[09:36] <Iczer88> im inside hdd2
[09:36] <DBO> deefzi, nope, no need to, they only provide sound anyhow
[09:36] <Iczer88> what next?
[09:36] <DBO> Iczer88, did you chroot?
[09:36] <deefzi> DBO, yes, that's what i was looking for :-)
[09:36] <Iczer88> ?
[09:36] <r0xoR> what is REGPARM as it relates to the kernel, and does the default ubuntu kernel have REGPARM ?
[09:36] <Iczer88> what? chroot?
[09:36] <r0xoR> i need to know to download this: http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi
[09:36] <deefzi> DBO, i thought you could give a me brief explanation how to get that sound chip working
[09:37] <deefzi> DBO, installer whines about missing nvsound.ko or so
[09:37] <DBO> Iczer88, "chroot /path/to/hdd2"
[09:37] <Iczer88> done it now
[09:37] <Iczer88> what next?
[09:37] <DBO> "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-9-386"
[09:38] <Iczer88> ok
[09:38] <InnerFIRE> does anyone know whyi get errors when starting up streamtuner? it says Script /usr/share/streamtuner/python/scripts/google-stations.py could not be loaded: 'module' object has no attribute 'argv'.
[09:38] <DBO> deefzi, hmmmm... can you paste relevant output to pastebin?
[09:38] <deefzi> DBO, i'll put the whole installer-log
[09:39] <Iczer88> not installed
[09:39] <r0xoR> do the ubuntu kernels have vesafb compiled in?
[09:39] <DBO> Iczer88, is this dapper?
[09:39] <DBO> wait you said breezy...
[09:39] <Iczer88> think it is breezy
[09:39] <yaaa> bye bye guys
[09:40] <Iczer88> ??
[09:41] <DBO> Iczer88, cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:41] <deefzi> DBO, http://pastebin.com/687553
[09:41] <Iczer88> ok
[09:41] <DBO> does it say breezy or dapper in there?
[09:41] <Iczer88> nothing of it :/
[09:42] <Iczer88> wierd
[09:42] <DBO> Iczer88, the file is blank?
[09:42] <deefzi> DBO, oh. don't mind about those weird markings, i pasted that stuff manually from my terminal's output which incorrectly had iso-8859-1
[09:42] <DBO> deefzi, are you sure you have the right kernel source installed?
[09:43] <poler> must go NOW 2 sony vaio laptops price 450 each includes shipping case wireless router.  message me on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com
[09:43] <deefzi> DBO, do i still need kernel-source files even if i have self-compiled kernel?
[09:43] <Iczer88> no
[09:43] <deefzi> DBO, i don't use precompiled stock-kernels
[09:43] <DBO> deefzi, good point
[09:43] <DBO> Iczer88, what does the output from that command look like?
[09:43] <Iczer88> it says Ubuntu kernel 2.6.12-9-686 :/ think it could be the problem? "686"
[09:43] <jae_> hey can anyone help me wit my sound trouble?
[09:43] <deefzi> DBO, even still: kernel-sources for this kernel aren't available from any repositories that i'm aware of
[09:43] <Iczer88> i got the wrong version ?
[09:43] <DBO> Iczer88, yes, change my command to have the 686
[09:44] <Iczer88> shouldnt i have 386?
[09:44] <jae_> can anyone help me wit my sound problem?
[09:44] <Iczer88> it worked
[09:44] <DBO> Iczer88, ours is not to ask why... 686 will work fine on your PC, no worries
[09:45] <Iczer88> ok
[09:45] <Iczer88> the command worked now
[09:45] <Iczer88> what do you need to know or what should i do?
[09:45] <deefzi> DBO, so, how have you solved the problem or are you running a stock-kernel?
[09:45] <jae_> yo my sound is barely heard can anyone help me?
[09:45] <DBO> deefzi, I never installed the sound
[09:45] <DBO> but now you make me want to do it
[09:45] <DBO> Iczer88, are you back at a prompt?
[09:45] <Iczer88> yea
[09:45] <i3dmaster> how to point firefox to use an alternative java?
[09:46] <DBO> Iczer88, try to reboot
[09:46] <DBO> into ubuntu
[09:46] <Iczer88> ok
[09:46] <kingspawn> jae_: run alsamixer in a terminal
[09:46] <DBO> deefzi, I actually use an Audigy 2, so I never needed the nforce sound
[09:46] <deefzi> DBO, spare yourself. i woulnd't have to wear ipod-earplugs atm if i would kept my fingers off from installing new sound drivers :>
[09:46] <deefzi> DBO, well that's a whole another story since i have problems with the nforce2-soundchip
[09:47] <poler> must go NOW 2 sony vaio laptops price 450 each includes shipping case wireless router.  message me on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com
[09:47] <DBO> deefzi, quite so
[09:47] <Iczer88> same problem :/
[09:47] <DBO> deefzi, I'll tell you what, do you come by here often?
[09:48] <deefzi> DBO, my shell is idling here 24/7
[09:48] <DBO> Iczer88, where did you get your ubuntu discs?
[09:48] <Iczer88> the ubuntu website
[09:48] <Iczer88> should i try with kubuntu disc?
[09:48] <DBO> deefzi, Ill probably give getting those drivers working a go in the next couple days, if I run into the same problem, and get it fixed, I will let you know
[09:48] <DBO> Iczer88, yes
[09:48] <AnAnt> can I add drapper repositories in Breezy's apt-get source lists  ?
[09:48] <Ohzie> Has anybody played with compiz yet?
[09:49] <DBO> AnAnt, that will effectively upgrade you to dapper
[09:49] <Iczer88> should i remove the SATA hdd during the install?
[09:49] <lutra> Ohzie: i have
[09:49] <DBO> Iczer88, no, do not remove any hardware during install
[09:49] <Ohzie> lutra: Cool! How do I use it?
[09:49] <doctormo> hello all
[09:49] <DBO> hi
[09:49] <Ohzie> lol
[09:49] <AnAnt> DBO: I just want to upgrade the firefox (and maybe some other few utilities)
[09:49] <lutra> !xgl
[09:49] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:49] <DBO> !tell AnAnt about FF1.5
[09:49] <doctormo> I try and use the nvidia module in my xorg config, and I get 'module not found 'nvidia''
[09:49] <Ohzie> My room mate was like "You said you were going to install that cool thing!"
[09:49] <Ohzie> And I was like "I did! I just don't know how to turn it on!"
[09:50] <Ohzie> lol thank you
[09:50] <shizzz> are there any c programmers out there?
[09:50] <AnAnt> DBO: well, not just firefox
[09:50] <joel_> doctormo: did you d/l the officiial nvidia driver?
[09:50] <DBO> AnAnt, what else do you need?
[09:50] <shizzz> hey DBO i wanted to thank you for your help
[09:50] <AnAnt> DBO: dvd+rw-tools, maybe gnome & kernel
[09:50] <DBO> shizzz, sure, anytime man
[09:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> shizzz: Of course, but you'd have better luck in an actual developer channel.
[09:51] <DBO> AnAnt, you might as well run Dapper at that point
[09:51] <Iczer88> should i choose some special settings on the partition part?
[09:51] <doctormo> interestingly, I have all the nvidia items in apt installed
[09:51] <AnAnt> DBO: ic
[09:51] <shizzz> i have gotten my env set up and just compiled my first helloworld c program
[09:51] <joel_> you need to goto nvidia's website and get the driver...
[09:51] <shizzz> true
[09:51] <Iczer88> DBO --- should i choose some special settings on the partition part?
[09:51] <doctormo> shizzz, well done!
[09:51] <AnAnt> DBO: so anyways it is possible to add the repos
[09:51] <DBO> Iczer88, no, just delete the partitions it made last time, then go back and select "use largest contiguous space"
[09:51] <shizzz> do you know of any developer channels?
[09:51] <DBO> AnAnt, yeah, but it might FUBAR things, I dont suggest it
[09:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> shizzz: Congrats.  Try a ROT13 encrypter next. :)
[09:51] <shizzz> thanks doctormo
[09:51] <r0xoR> uname -a reports 2.6.12 but the only kernel source available as a package is 2.6.11
[09:52] <r0xoR> how do i download the source for the default ubuntu kernel?
[09:52] <shizzz> Pumpernickle lol
[09:52] <hupp3l> hey for hosting is a dedicated ip a good thing?
[09:52] <haasteem> hi, is it safe to use the agnula repository (http://www.agnula.org/) in ubuntu?
[09:52] <shizzz> what is an ROT13
[09:52] <MHobbit> shizzz: Simple cipher...
[09:52] <DBO> r0xoR, "sudo apt-get install linux-tree-`uname -r`"
[09:52] <shizzz> ah
[09:52] <AnAnt> ic
[09:52] <AnAnt> thx
[09:52] <shizzz> maybe later on
[09:52] <shizzz> lol
[09:52] <r0xoR> DBO, cool thanks
[09:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> shizzz: It shifts each letter in the alphabet 13 letters over.
[09:52] <MHobbit> shizzz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROT13 ;-)
[09:53] <shizzz> oh
[09:53] <shizzz> sweet
[09:53] <doubletwist> Ok mdadm is driving me nuts...
[09:53] <doubletwist> if I use the command: mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=5 --raid-devices=5 /dev/hda3 /dev/hde1 /dev/hdf1 /dev/hdg1 /dev/hdh1
[09:53] <doubletwist> That should work, yes?
[09:53] <doctormo> I've seen others on the forums be told o remove drivrs they got from nvidia and install the ones from apt-get hmmm
[09:54] <r0xoR> DBO, E: Couldn't find package linux-tree-2.6.12-9-386
[09:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doctormo: Yeah, that's usually the 'safest' way of installing them.
[09:54] <DBO> r0xoR, /etc/apt/sources.list -> pastebin
[09:55] <doctormo> PuMpErNiCkLe, Yes then they are installed, as I have installed every nvidia package related to the driver in my repository
[09:55] <r0xoR> DBO, naw nevermind, it's got 2.6.12 it just doesn't have quite the same name appended to it
[09:55] <joel_> I use the nvidia drivers with no probs... Tricky to install though... Need to install with no X session, need kernel-headers, build-essential, nvidia-glx, and restricted modules installed for your k version to compile successfully
[09:55] <r0xoR> DBO, i just looked in synaptic for linux-tree and it's there
[09:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doctormo: So long as you have 'nvidia-glx', you should be good, then.
[09:55] <doctormo> PuMpErNiCkLe, nvidia-glx is installed
[09:56] <doctormo> PuMpErNiCkLe, xorg is still saying nvidia module will not load
[09:56] <joel_> just need the other three then :)
[09:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> the others should be dependencies of nvidia-glx
[09:56] <azurehuesofblue> Hey guys, I'm trying to encode an mp3 with audacity... it asks me to find my lame encoder... no problem... except where is it?  It validated that it is installed?
[09:56] <joel_> the 'built-in' driver is not nvidia, it's 'nv'
[09:56] <doctormo> PuMpErNiCkLe, I don't understand it, on my other machine it works fine
[09:56] <DBO> r0xoR, stupid me... forgot that one was different...
[09:57] <ox> I accidentally changed the owner.group in all of /var to root, is there any way to find out the default ownership setting of a ubuntu install of /var?
[09:57] <r0xoR> DBO, more specifically, 2.6.12.9
[09:58] <r0xoR> ox, var is normally owned by root anyway
[09:58] <doctormo> PuMpErNiCkLe, the only thing you need to change is Driver "vesa" to Driver "nvidia" right?
[09:58] <r0xoR> ox, did you change group as well? or just owner
[09:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doctormo: And comment out dri and GLcore in the modules section.
[09:58] <ox> r0xoR, true,
[09:58] <ox> r0xoR,  yes the group too
[09:58] <r0xoR> ox, /var/mail needs to be group "mail"
[09:58] <r0xoR> ox and /var/local needs to have a group of "staff"
[09:58] <DBO> r0xoR, the package "linux-tree" is a meta package that always depends on the latest, might be more handy that always getting the newest
[09:59] <r0xoR> DBO, i just want a tree that will be able to compile modules to run with my current kernel, which is the "default" ubuntu kernel
[09:59] <silvex> looking for some help  connecting win-xp to ubuntu PDC
[09:59] <ox> r0xoR, it also messed up mysql too, but I fixed it
[09:59] <r0xoR> though i did run all my updates... so i'm not sure if the kernel got updated
[09:59] <doctormo> PuMpErNiCkLe, I have glx, dri, ddc and GLcore disabled because I _have_ to use the vesa driver
[09:59] <danl> what package do i need to stop this: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:00] <DBO> r0xoR, no it did not, you should update
[10:00] <ox> Is there anything in /var that would screw up the sound - ie tie up the sound card?
[10:00] <ox> xmms won't play
[10:00] <doctormo> PuMpErNiCkLe, looking at my other machine it has a nvidia.ko, this machine does not
[10:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doctormo: glx an ddc should be fine with 'nvidia'
[10:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doctormo: That could be an issue, yes. :)
[10:01] <doctormo> PuMpErNiCkLe, yes so apt is lieing to me?
[10:01] <hupp3l> hey for hosting is a dedicated ip a good thing?
[10:02] <DBO> hupp3l, yes
[10:02] <azurehuesofblue> where is libmp3lame.so?
[10:02] <hupp3l> so is it worth it to pay $2/month more for
[10:02] <kingspawn> azurehuesofblue: in the lame package, perhaps?
[10:03] <r0xoR> hmmm, ok it seems i need the "kernel headers" ? for the current ubuntu kernel
[10:03] <DBO> hupp3l, hrm... that depends on what you are doing
[10:03] <earl_> hey guys, can someone do that bot thing where it tells me how to install the newest ATI drivers (not the one in the repository)
[10:03] <r0xoR> Trying to compile using INCLUDE=/usr/src/linux-2.6.12-9-386/include
[10:03] <r0xoR> src/sndshield.c:30:27: error: linux/version.h: No such file or directory
[10:03] <DBO> !tell earl_ about ATI
[10:03] <doctormo> PuMpErNiCkLe, Ah, multiverse might be an interesting option
[10:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doctormo: Hard to say.  Your situation sounds more complicated than it should be. o_O
[10:03] <r0xoR> where do i get those?
[10:03] <silvex> has anyone connected a win-xp client to ubuntu as domain controller?
[10:03] <earl_> thanks much
[10:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doctormo: multiverse?
[10:03] <Drel> Hello -- I've recently upgrade Ubuntu Breezy to Dapper via apt-get dist-upgrade.  I use an ATI graphics card.  I'm not finding that if I try to log out of GNOME or cause X to be restarted (try to restart the computer), the monitor goes into power saving mode and the computer appears to freeze.  Anyone else experiencing this?
[10:04] <r0xoR> er, oh wait... yeah weird, hold on
[10:04] <Drel> s /not/now
[10:04] <hupp3l> i just want to start by hosting a forum
[10:04] <doctormo> PuMpErNiCkLe, apts sources are restricted
[10:04] <DBO> !tell Drel about dapper
[10:04] <hupp3l> and maybe a small website
[10:04] <DBO> hupp3l, in that case its not really a big deal
[10:04] <r0xoR> is there a special anything i need to do to extract the kernel sources?
[10:04] <slackern> r0xoR: Im thinking "sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers" but im not 100% sure.
[10:05] <hupp3l> do you know if godaddy.com is a decent web host?
[10:05] <r0xoR> i remember on fedora you couldn't just go into /usr/src/ and tar -jxvf the source, there was a special script that did it for you and then applied all the fedora patches
[10:05] <r0xoR> do i need to do the same thing on ubuntu?
[10:05] <DBO> hupp3l, no idea, I bring my own hosting
[10:05] <hupp3l> o ok DBO thanks
[10:06] <slackern> r0xoR: That i have no idea about, sorry.
[10:06] <azurehuesofblue> kingspawn, thanks for your help, but I can't seem seem to find it.
[10:06] <DBO> r0xoR, if you installed it through apt its installed, that is all there is to it
[10:06] <chris___> DBO, remember me? :) good afternoon
[10:07] <DBO> chris___, I do remember you, hows the website?
[10:07] <doctormo> ok this looks better now
[10:07] <kingspawn> azurehuesofblue: try apt-cache search lame
[10:07] <chris___> The website is great thanks :)
[10:08] <haasteem> hi, is it safe to use the agnula repository (http://www.agnula.org/) in ubuntu? agnula is a debian-based distro..
[10:08] <DBO> haasteem, no
[10:08] <Iczer88> DBO --- Same problems now
[10:08] <chris___> I have a problem, I had dell come to my house to replace my laptop with new parts, basically i told them i had another laptop..  i mean like this laptop is faster but different model. my keyboard "Fn " key isn't working and some of its sound found in a movie player, what can i do to make all this work?
[10:08] <haasteem> DBO: why not?
[10:08] <concept10> haasteem, dont mix repos unless you want breakage
[10:09] <DBO> Iczer88, its not liking something in your hardware config...
[10:09] <haasteem> ok
[10:09] <Iczer88> what do you mean?
[10:09] <DBO> Iczer88, could you try moving your IDE drive to master on IDE 0?
[10:09] <azurehuesofblue> well, it seems to list programs that use it.
[10:10] <Iczer88> cant, because my computer only got one Secondery IDE port :S
[10:10] <azurehuesofblue> it may be hidden.
[10:10] <Iczer88> dont know how to make it primary
[10:10] <ATR2001> Hi
[10:10] <DBO> Iczer88, how many CD drives do ou have?
[10:10] <chris___> I had my "Fn" key workingon my old laptop but now with this new keyboard it isn't working nor the sound when playing a movie
[10:10] <Iczer88> one
[10:11] <chris___> ubuntu makes the sounds alright just VLC player doesn't play sound
[10:11] <bkf> i cant conect
[10:11] <DBO> Iczer88, is the same cable that is connected to the CD drive connected to the hard drive?
[10:11] <azurehuesofblue> kingspawn: when I search for it, it frickin comes up
[10:11] <edgardpacheco> Hello everybody
[10:11] <Iczer88> yea :S
[10:11] <deefzi> what is a segmentation fault?
[10:11] <DBO> Iczer88, do you have another cable?
[10:11] <chris___> any idea's anyone?
[10:11] <bkf> the error is "host unreachable"
[10:12] <eck> chris___:  are you in the audio group?
[10:12] <DBO> bkf, connect to what?
[10:12] <Iczer88> only got one IDE port :S
[10:12] <bkf> amsn
[10:12] <chris___> i am not sure if i am in a audio group?
[10:12] <edgardpacheco> I want to form a LUG (Linux User Group), and it says that i have to announce it on "comp.os.linux.announce" what is that? a website?
[10:12] <DBO> Iczer88, are you sure?  Ive never met a motherboard without 2
[10:12] <Iczer88> one sec
[10:12] <eck> chris___:  type groups on a command line
[10:12] <chris___> ok
[10:12] <eck> it should list all the groups you are a member of
[10:13] <chris___> chris adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[10:13] <concept10> edgardpacheco, look up usenet
[10:13] <edgardpacheco> what is usenet? :S
[10:13] <kuttekind> google it :p
[10:13] <edgardpacheco> xD Ok thanks! :D
[10:13] <concept10> look it up on wikipedia
[10:13] <DBO> edgardpacheco, its a scary place, where the men are men and so are the women
[10:13] <eck> ok i guess you are then...  if you weren't you wouldn't get sound when logged in, but you would still get it when logging on
[10:13] <Iczer88> DBO --- check this link http://www.ixbt.com/mainboard/asus/asus-p5n32-sli-deluxe-nforce4ie/board-big.jpg
[10:14] <iqon> chris___: are you running dapper?
[10:14] <kuttekind> lol DBO
[10:14] <chris___> i got sound when i logged in
[10:14] <chris___> no dapper
[10:14] <chris___> breezer bagger 5.10
[10:14] <DBO> Iczer88, that one has two
[10:14] <azurehuesofblue> Sorry, I've reached frustration level 10 - close all windows and deep breathe ... lol
[10:14] <chris___> should i upgrade?
[10:14] <Iczer88> the second one is floppy
[10:14] <DBO> Iczer88, no, there is a floppy and two ide
[10:15] <chris___> i mean like i won't lose my information right iqon
[10:15] <kuttekind> okay im running breezy on an acer aspire 1692 wmli i can't get the gigabit lan to work and the wireless wont work either
[10:15] <iqon> chris___: there was a prob with one of the updated dapper packages the other day that prevented sound from working
[10:15] <kuttekind> is anyone prepared to help a linux noob :p
[10:15] <NoUse> !ask
[10:15] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[10:15] <chris___> oh ok iqon it isn't stable so i can understand ;)
[10:15] <DBO> Iczer88, one is right next to your ram and the other (on the picture) is a about 2 inches left and blue
[10:15] <xbox_sky> hmm
[10:15] <xbox_sky> I wonder if ubuto is a real shell bot
[10:16] <Iczer88> oh
[10:16] <Iczer88> i didnt know that
[10:16] <DBO> Iczer88 =)
[10:16] <Saifism> i'm having problem to get my modem drivers
[10:16] <Iczer88> gonna change it in 10min on the phone now
[10:16] <chris___> you think i shud wait iqon, for dapper to be stable and install it without loosing anything, i mean like it shud fix the sound since it will update the drivers and what not
[10:17] <chris___> otherwise if you know what else to try let me know
[10:17] <chris___> DBO got any ideas?
[10:17] <chris___> :)
[10:17] <Saifism> i wan't to download My modem drivers
[10:17] <DBO> chris___, breezy or dapper (sorry havent even been reading your issue)
[10:17] <xbox_sky> guys http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ is one thing, but there's another bigger paste site, anyone got a link?
[10:17] <chris___> breezy
[10:17] <DBO> did you fn keys ever work chris___ ?
[10:18] <xbox_sky> ah pastebin
[10:18] <kuttekind> i don't get the whole copy paste thingy
[10:18] <chris___> yes on my old keyboard it did work
[10:18] <kuttekind> what do u need to copy paste?
[10:18] <chris___> now dell got me a new keyboard and doesn't work
[10:18] <DBO> chris___, what do you want the keys to do?
[10:18] <Saifism> from where i can download AC'97 Modem Drivers ?
[10:19] <chris___> Fn and the audio keys
[10:19] <edgardpacheco> hey
[10:19] <edgardpacheco> from where do i enter to news:Comp.Os.Linux.Announce?
[10:19] <xbox_sky> !paste
[10:19] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[10:19] <xbox_sky> ah
[10:19] <chris___> DBO i think it will be a good idea to reinstall, ubuntu i mean like they gave me a new 60 gb hard drive
[10:20] <DBO> chris___, not sure about the fn keys (sorry, never use laptops), but you can set the sound keys in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[10:20] <edgardpacheco> from where do i enter Comp.Os.Linux.Announce
[10:20] <DBO> !patience
[10:20] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[10:20] <xbox_sky> ^_^
[10:21] <DBO> i love that one, it makes me feel are warm and fuzzy inside
[10:21] <xbox_sky> yeah it's a goodie
[10:21] <chris___> is there a way to backup my samba network settings and proftp settings?
[10:21] <edgardpacheco> Hello People
[10:21] <edgardpacheco> :)
[10:21] <chris___> i think ill reinstall ubuntu
[10:21] <Adyeths> how can I make the cups web interface let me add a printer in Dapper?
[10:22] <kuttekind> hmm
[10:22] <kingspawn> !printing
[10:22] <ubotu> I heard printing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[10:22] <kuttekind> !network
[10:22] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[10:22] <kuttekind> ...
[10:22] <DBO> chris, just copy /etc/samba/smb.conf and /etc/proftpd.conf to a CD.  you may want to make notes of what extra users had been created in this process as you will need to recreate them
[10:22] <kingspawn> haha
[10:22] <kingspawn> kuttekind: whats the trouble?
[10:22] <kuttekind> :p
[10:22] <chris___> ok thanks DBO :)
[10:22] <kuttekind> my network on my laptop
[10:23] <danboid> I need to compile the latest ndiswrapper so I need matching kernel image and source. Why then can I only see images for 2.6.12 and kernel source for 2.6.11 under breezy?
[10:23] <kuttekind> not working at all
[10:23] <kingspawn> kuttekind: wireless?
[10:23] <kuttekind> both
[10:23] <Adyeths> that won't help me. I'm trying to add the fake printer that cups-pdf is supposed to provide. its not autodetected in dapper though.
[10:23] <kuttekind> gigabit lan and wlan
[10:23] <xbox_sky> !ubotu
[10:23] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[10:23] <iqon> chris___: i'm not having any regular problems with dapper, but unless you're willing to lose data/time if something goes wrong i would wait
[10:23] <kingspawn> kuttekind: does it detect them at all?
[10:23] <kuttekind> yes :) ^^
[10:23] <edgardpacheco> i have a little question :), how do i enter to comp.os.linux.announce?
[10:23] <kingspawn> kuttekind: heh, well, then the gigabit should be okay sette opp?
[10:23] <DBO> chris___, in general I do not advice going to dapper right now.  Stick with the stable, less headaches for you =)
[10:23] <kuttekind> kingspawn i've even tried to config them like the network of my other pc
[10:23] <kingspawn> s/sette/setting
[10:24] <xbox_sky> is ubotu bot open source?
[10:24] <kuttekind> wow okay
[10:24] <chris___> iqon, i think 5.10 is good :) i mean like dapper will have problem like DBO says
[10:24] <kuttekind> first of all
[10:24] <chris___> whats the advantage for dapper?
[10:24] <kuttekind> kingspawn i've found a forumentry about it
[10:24] <DBO> chris___, its cooler!  but it has bugs from time to time as its still in beta
[10:24] <kuttekind> kingspawn but it's just very confusing since i'm new to linux its just like gibberish to me
[10:24] <ompaul> !dapper
[10:24] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[10:24] <kingspawn> kuttekind: okay, why doesnt it work when you set it up like the rest of the lan? are you using static ip or dhcp?
[10:25] <kingspawn> kuttekind: we'll try working through it
[10:25] <kuttekind> dhcp :)
[10:25] <chris___> DBO i shall wait ha, i want to experince that cool dapper :) so i'll install dapper on my hard drive dell gave me when its stable
[10:25] <danboid> I need the latest ndiswrapper- any ideas (see above problem)
[10:25] <kingspawn> kuttekind: okay, open a terminal and type  dhcpcd eth0 (presuming that is the gigabit)
[10:25] <kuttekind> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78473&highlight=1692
[10:25] <kuttekind> look that should help me
[10:25] <DBO> chris___, good idea =)
[10:25] <kuttekind> but i don't know how to start
[10:25] <chris___> i gave dell back a 6gb hard drive today and recived a 60gb :)
[10:26] <chris___> DBO thanks for everything :)
[10:26] <kuttekind> i've downloaded the acerhk thingy
[10:26] <DBO> =)
[10:26] <kingspawn> kuttekind: hm? if its detected, why do you need additional drivers?
[10:26] <kuttekind> eth1 is the gigabit
[10:26] <Adyeths> so... how can I make the cups web interface let me add a printer in Dapper? I keeps wanting me to put in a user and password but none of my usernames or passwords will work.
[10:26] <kuttekind> well
[10:26] <kuttekind> because this laptop is annoying i guess i dno
[10:26] <chris___> just going to wait for dapper to arrive :) then reinstall on my other hard drive, i got all my backing up to do all thanks to DBO :)
[10:27] <kuttekind> okay lemme check it first :p
[10:27] <chris___> DBO thanks :)
[10:27] <chris___> bye everyone
[10:27] <DBO> laters
[10:27] <kingspawn> kuttekind: well, lets try getting the eth1 working first
[10:27] <danboid> why is there no matching kernel image/ source in breezy?
[10:27] <kingspawn> kuttekind: that means dhcpcd eth1
[10:28] <kuttekind> lol
[10:28] <alexcamilo> Hello, What are the recommended system requirements for playing stuff like DivX and Mpeg-4?
[10:28] <fredwork> How come my gateway will not stay set?  I have tried route add default gw 192.168.1.1 and if I reload the ethernet interface or reboot the computer it goes away.
[10:28] <kuttekind> grrr
[10:28] <kingspawn> alexcamilo: whatcha got?
[10:28] <alexcamilo> celeron 550 mhz
[10:28] <kuttekind> kingspawn: dhcpcd command not found
[10:28] <alexcamilo> 256mb ram. possibly more
[10:29] <kingspawn> kuttekind: try dhclient eth1
[10:29] <danboid> alex: that'll befine
[10:29] <DBO> alexcamilo, you can definately run it
[10:29] <alexcamilo> cool.
[10:29] <kuttekind> wooha
[10:29] <kuttekind> kingspawn i got a responce :p
[10:30] <kuttekind> unknown hardware address type 776
[10:30] <concept10> anyone use SQLite with Ruby on Rails here?
[10:30] <alexcamilo> cool
[10:30] <kuttekind> can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Permission denied
[10:30] <fliegenderfrosch> i've got a problem with my rsync-script: i'm trying to synchronize my mp3player with the music folder on my pc, but my script "rsync -a -v --delete /home/user/Musik/ /media/H100/MUSIC" always ends with errors. what can i do?
[10:31] <kuttekind> and some more stuff like that
[10:31] <kingspawn> kuttekind: sudo dhclient eth1
[10:31] <kingspawn> kuttekind: with just about anything i say, prepend "sudo"
[10:31] <kingspawn> kuttekind: I forget it all the time
[10:31] <DBO> kingspawn, thats going to bite you in the rear...
[10:32] <kuttekind> kingspawn: i've should've known better :p i've seen it quite alot now
[10:32] <sskroeder> pp
[10:32] <kuttekind> hmm
[10:32] <kingspawn> DBO: I'll give your rear... (eh.. ;)
[10:32] <kingspawn> s/your/you!
[10:32] <danboid> sudo -s is my ubuntu fave
[10:32] <DBO> kingspawn, no thanks, I already have my rear
[10:32] <kingspawn> good
[10:33] <kuttekind> dhcpdiscover on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
[10:33] <kuttekind> and so on
[10:33] <kuttekind> no working leases in persisten database - sleeping
[10:33] <kingspawn> kuttekind: and you're sure there is a working dhcp-server on your lan?
[10:33] <kuttekind> hmm
[10:33] <kuttekind> nope :p
[10:33] <DBO> kuttekind, describe you LAN please
[10:33] <kuttekind> everything goes automatically i don't really worry much about the lan
[10:33] <Nykheyn> hello. a friend of mine wants to know: does it exist the command alsaconf on ubuntu? (in the package alsa-utils)
[10:34] <kuttekind> its a simple router minding its own business
[10:34] <DBO> kingspawn, yeah, router... DHCP server
[10:34] <kuttekind> ...
[10:34] <kingspawn> hm
[10:34] <DBO> kingspawn, what do you think of cutting out the middle man and just going static?
[10:34] <kingspawn> DBO: its what I always do :)
[10:34] <kuttekind> well man
[10:35] <kuttekind> the linux pc upstairs runs with dhcp
[10:35] <kuttekind> and there's not prob there
[10:35] <DBO> kuttekind, are you sure your cabling is working?
[10:35] <eck> Nykheyn: I don't think so
[10:35] <kuttekind> lol
[10:35] <Nykheyn> hello. a friend of mine wants to know: does it exist the command alsaconf on ubuntu? (in the package alsa-utils) **attempt no.2
[10:35] <kuttekind> yes
[10:35] <Nykheyn> ah, sorry, thanks :)
[10:35] <kingspawn> kuttekind: you know what kind of chipset your network card runs on?
[10:35] <sskroeder> polpak, good news .... i presented the idea of having the servers running Ubuntu today - and after the cheifs had a brief meeting - it was green-lighted .. apache/php will go on test first -- and if all goes well, db and mailserver will follow on ubuntu (we had decided to migrate from solaris to linux anyway - but i'm thrilled that it's going to be ubuntu and not mandriva, that is going to be the distro *S*)
[10:36] <kuttekind> im not big into hardware
[10:36] <kuttekind> but
[10:36] <kuttekind> i can look it up
[10:36] <Nykheyn> eck, the equivalent on ubuntu what is?
[10:36] <kingspawn> kuttekind: try typing dmesg | grep eth
[10:36] <polpak> sskroeder, =)
[10:36] <kingspawn> polpak: hey polpak, you're in here too
[10:36] <polpak> kingspawn, yeah =)
[10:36] <kuttekind> okay
[10:36] <eck> Nykheyn: I *think* you need to use the graphical tools... I don't really remember other than that I was frustrated with alsaconf not being around when I didn't have sound in Breezy
[10:37] <kingspawn> polpak: nice to see
[10:37] <kuttekind> kingspawn what do u need from it
[10:37] <kuttekind> what do i need to look for
[10:37] <Iczer88> Im back:D
[10:37] <kingspawn> kuttekind: the entries on eth1
[10:37] <Nykheyn> eck, thanks.
[10:37] <DBO> Iczer88, ok, where were we?
[10:38] <kingspawn> kuttekind: if there are multiple lines, paste them on pastebin
[10:38] <Iczer88> im going to add a cable now
[10:38] <kuttekind> oh boy
[10:38] <kingspawn> polpak: Hehe, its definitely a nice distro
[10:38] <DBO> Iczer88, oh yes, i remember now, ok, go ahead and put each device on its own channel
[10:38] <polpak> kingspawn, the best one I've tried so far
[10:38] <kuttekind> no ipv6 routers present
[10:38] <Iczer88> havent seen that IDE port before , they can realy hide them  :-p ;)
[10:38] <kuttekind> eth 0 says
[10:38] <DBO> they try hard Iczer88, but just remember its IS there somewhere
[10:39] <Iczer88> hehe yea :-p
[10:39] <kingspawn> kuttekind: we dont care about eth0 right now, what about eth1?
[10:39] <kingspawn> kuttekind: and that no ipv6 routers are present isnt important
[10:39] <Iczer88> DBO --- do you got msn?
[10:39] <kuttekind> kingspawn: dma_rwctrl[763f0000] 
[10:39] <kuttekind> okay
[10:39] <DBO> Iczer88, yes, why?
[10:39] <kuttekind> well thats all it says at eth1
[10:40] <kingspawn> kuttekind: oh. then we have probably got ourselves a problem.
[10:40] <kuttekind> ^^
[10:40] <Elazar> Can anyone recommend a good subversion client for Ubuntu?
[10:40] <kuttekind> might have figured that much :p
[10:40] <Iczer88> DBO --- would be nice to talk more some day
[10:40] <Iczer88> not very often in here
[10:41] <kingspawn> kuttekind: Heh, well, that driver you downloaded, what format is it in?
[10:41] <kuttekind> hmm
[10:41] <kuttekind> i've only downloaded the acerhk
[10:42] <kuttekind> i've got no idea how to get my hands on the ipw2200 driver
[10:42] <kingspawn> kuttekind: is that wireless only?
[10:42] <Ditiris> I'm trying to install MATLAB and I get the error message "bash: /media/cdrom/install: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied" trying to run the install file.
[10:42] <kuttekind> nope
[10:42] <kingspawn> kuttekind: well, the ipw2200 module is already in your system
[10:42] <kuttekind> it has gigabit lan
[10:42] <kuttekind> but it won't work
[10:42] <kingspawn> kuttekind: it wont work?
[10:42] <Sivik> ipw2200 sucks
[10:42] <kuttekind> it won't work
[10:42] <Sivik> almost as bad as the support for bcm 43xx
[10:42] <Sivik> kuttekind: then your doing it wrong
[10:42] <DBO> Sivik, please keep the inflamatory banter to a minimum =)
[10:43] <Sivik> sorry
[10:43] <kuttekind> lol sivik :p
[10:43] <kingspawn> kuttekind: eh, does the acerhk-thingy you downloaded have the gigabit-driver?
[10:43] <kuttekind> i know :(
[10:43] <Ditiris> Anyone have any idea what the problem might be?
[10:43] <kingspawn> Ditiris: sudo install-file
[10:43] <kuttekind> no it does not
[10:43] <kingspawn> kuttekind: what _does_ it have?
[10:43] <AnsiC> hello
[10:44] <kuttekind> damn
[10:44] <AnsiC> if i do other time make menuconfig and i add one support built-in
[10:44] <Ditiris> kingspawn, sudo: unable to execute /media/cdrom/install: Permission denied
[10:44] <AnsiC> i need recompile other time the modules
[10:44] <AnsiC> ?=
[10:44] <kingspawn> Ditiris: oh, it is trying to access a file on your cdrom called install. is it there?
[10:44] <Ditiris> kingspawn, -r-xr-xr-x  1 root root 39173 2006-02-06 13:35 /media/cdrom/install
[10:44] <kuttekind> kingspawn: i don't know it has something to do about the acerhotkeys
[10:45] <kuttekind> so i think they are drivers for the acer hotkeys but they also help to make wlan and bluetooth work
[10:45] <dabaR> If you put a live CD into a computer, and boot it, and all you get it weird graphical goo, even in the console, is there anything you can do to get that working?
[10:45] <Ditiris> kingspawn, yep, the install file is there.
[10:45] <kingspawn> Ditiris: then it is quite weird that sudo cant execute it
[10:45] <kingspawn> kuttekind: ehm, well, okay, lets see here. getting a bit stumped now.
[10:46] <Ditiris> kingspawn, it's acting like i don't have permission to execute the file, but i'm running all these commands from a gksudo terminal anyway...
[10:46] <kingspawn> kuttekind: and wireless I have no idea about, I never use anything that isnt corded up real good
[10:46] <DBO> dabaR, try a different live boot?
[10:46] <kingspawn> Ditiris: a gksudo terminal? just run a normal terminal, and sudo the command
[10:46] <tristanbob> anyone got vmware tools successfully installed in a virtual Dapper system?
[10:46] <kingspawn> Ditiris: gksudo is crazy
[10:47] <Jimmey__> kingspawn, why?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> tristanbob: try #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[10:47] <kuttekind> oh btw kingspawn what if the ipw2200 wlan driver isn't installed
[10:47] <kuttekind> how can i install it then?
[10:47] <vinadelmar> hi all. i got "x include missing" when i try to compile. i've read somewhere that i need the xorg devel package installed but when i try to find it on ubuntu package nothing is found. any help appreciated. thanks.
[10:47] <dabaR> DBO: different version of Ubuntu, like an older one?
[10:47] <Ditiris> kingspawn, sudo: unable to execute /cdrom/install: Permission denied
[10:48] <Ditiris> kingspawn, this thing is insane.
[10:48] <kingspawn> Jimmey__: just because I have had problems running normal commands with gksudo :)
[10:48] <DBO> dabaR, I meant more like Knoppix
[10:48] <Jimmey__> kingspawn, okay :P
[10:48] <tristanbob> gnomefreak: Thanks, I headed there now
[10:48] <kingspawn> Ditiris: holy wonders, batman
[10:48] <kingspawn> kuttekind: just do modprobe -l ipw2200 to see if you have it
[10:48] <eck> vinadelmar: i think the package is xserver-xorg-dev
[10:48] <dabaR> DBO: OK, good idea, I will try that.
[10:48] <kuttekind> k
[10:48] <kingspawn> kuttekind: it will list some /lib/modules/blahblah directory
[10:48] <gnomefreak> Ditiris: what does your prompt look like user@pc$ or user@pc#
[10:49] <Ditiris> gnomefreak, jtmiller@ferrari:/usr/local/MATLAB/R2006a$
[10:49] <Ditiris> i have to launch the install from the directory where I want to plunk matlab down.
[10:49] <Jimmey__> I'm on my way, from misery to happiness today..
[10:49] <kuttekind> kingspawn yup it does ^^
[10:49] <Jimmey__> Uhuh, uhuh, uhuh, uhuh..
[10:49] <kingspawn> Jimmey__: buying beer?
[10:49] <Ditiris> of course, that's all contingent on me being able to run a file i have permissions to...
[10:49] <Jimmey__> kingspawn, too young :P
[10:49] <kingspawn> kuttekind: well, then modprobe ipw2200 will insert it into the kernel, but more than that i dont know about the wireless
[10:50] <kingspawn> Jimmey__: when did that stop you? ;)
[10:50] <kuttekind> :)
[10:50] <kuttekind> its okay
[10:50] <kuttekind> i just want to have network i don't really care about the wireless
[10:50] <gnomefreak> Ditiris: is this a file you can save to your home dir than try to run it?
[10:50] <kuttekind> kingspawn it is dualboot with xp anyway if i want wireless i can get on xp
[10:50] <Ditiris> gnomefreak, i suppose i could copy the entire CD and try to run it
[10:51] <crunchyfish> i don't know if anyone has any advice, but i'm running winxp on a 120gb hard drive and i have a second 40gb hard drive that i've completely wiped. i've tried five or six times now to install ubuntu onto that second drive using ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso and every time during the install portion after you take the disc out and it restarts, it freezes between 70 and 80%
[10:51] <kingspawn> kuttekind: heh, okay. two secs.
[10:51] <gnomefreak> Ditiris: is it one file on the cd or the full cd?
[10:51] <kingspawn> kuttekind: do  sudo lshw -C NET
[10:51] <vinadelmar> eck, thanks but it is still unknown. would xserver-xorg and/or xserver-xorg-common work ?
[10:51] <kingspawn> kuttekind: and look for info related to your eth1
[10:51] <Ditiris> gnomefreak, the install file is just a shell script that launches the install
[10:51] <Jimmey__> crunchyfish, first things first - For the time being, you're probably better off using a 32bit system.
[10:51] <kuttekind> okay
[10:51] <kuttekind> well the forum link is all the info i got at the moment
[10:52] <kingspawn> crunchyfish: might give acpi=off noapic nolapic a try at boot time
[10:52] <vinadelmar> i have alot of file in /usr/include/X11 but it seems that it is not what is missing
[10:52] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[10:52] <btaylor5619> Does anyone here have an answer to a question that I have?
[10:52] <crunchyfish> oh ok, so i don't have to use the 64 bit one just because i have a 64 bit processor?
[10:52] <kuttekind> erm
[10:52] <gnomefreak> crunchyfish: correct
[10:52] <kuttekind> that gave me a big fat nothing...
[10:52] <kingspawn> kuttekind: thats is so not good
[10:52] <crunchyfish> yeah kingspawn, the acpi config part is where it freezed twice
[10:52] <eck> vinadelmar: you don't have an x server installed?
[10:52] <_jason> btaylor5619: depends on the question
[10:53] <Jimmey__> btaylor5619, ask it..
[10:53] <crunchyfish> and sometimes it will just reboot instead of freezing
[10:53] <crunchyfish> i'll try downloading the 32 bit one for now, thanks
[10:53] <btaylor5619> Is there an RSS reader that comes with Ubuntu?
[10:53] <kuttekind> kingspawn: oh yeah i had to disable acpi to make ubuntu boot :p
[10:53] <r0xoR> should i use SMP for an AMD64 system?
[10:53] <kingspawn> kuttekind: what kind of motherboard is it? acer something something
[10:53] <r0xoR> or do they not need it?
[10:53] <kuttekind> erm
[10:53] <kingspawn> kuttekind: heh, yeah, lots of people do
[10:53] <r0xoR> or was that intel/hyperthreading i'm thinking of that needs SMP even on single proc systems
[10:53] <jenos> HOLA COMO ESTAS
[10:53] <ompaul> !es
[10:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:53] <Jimmey__> !es
[10:54] <Jimmey__> Damnit ompaul :(
[10:54] <jenos> QUIEN QUIERE HABLAR
[10:54] <btaylor5619> !es
[10:54] <_jason> !+es
[10:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:54] <Jimmey__> !caps
[10:54] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[10:54] <ompaul> they have gone
[10:55] <btaylor5619> er...
[10:55] <r0xoR> anyone?
[10:55] <r0xoR> oh well, whatever
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Ditiris: thats alot of crap that needs to be transferred. im pretty sure it will work but i cant be 100
[10:55] <gnomefreak> %
[10:55] <btaylor5619> does anyone here know Ubuntu's RSS reader?
[10:55] <ompaul> r0xoR, you have a point but I don't know
[10:55] <_jason> btaylor5619: liferea is a nice one
[10:55] <btaylor5619> !liferea
[10:55] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, btaylor5619
[10:55] <_jason> !info liferea
[10:55] <ubotu> liferea: (feed aggregator for GNOME), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.7b-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 459 kB, Installed size: 1612 kB
[10:55] <gnomefreak> wondering why if you cd'ed into cd file that the .sh file is why you cant run it
[10:56] <_jason> gnomefreak: what?
[10:56] <Ditiris> gnomefreak, what do you mean?
[10:56] <Ditiris> lol
[10:56] <_jason> I read that three times :)
[10:56] <kuttekind> can't find motherboard info
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Ditiris: you have mounted the cdrom?
[10:57] <Ditiris> gnomefreak, yeah, it auto-mounted
[10:57] <brandon__> i'm trying to compile a program, and the configure script asks for tcl's configuration info, which it says it can't find. tcl is installed, but i think ubuntu calls it "tcl8.4" instead of "tcl 8.4" and that's why it appears to be missing. anything i can do about it?
[10:57] <kingspawn> kuttekind: we are getting a little thin here.. :/
[10:57] <_jason> brandon__: do you have the -dev package?
[10:57] <brandon__> tcl's dev package?
[10:58] <kuttekind> kingspawn yeah i know i'm sorry
[10:58] <kuttekind> its an acer aspire 1692 wmli
[10:58] <gnomefreak> brandon__: tcl8.4-dev  or whatever version of tcl is installed
[10:58] <kuttekind> i can tell u what kind of processor it is i can give you the type of ram the 3d card anything
[10:59] <kuttekind> but the motherboard o0
[10:59] <_jason> brandon__: when you compile something, you usually need the foo-dev package when something requires foo
[11:00] <brandon__> i see
[11:00] <kuttekind> kingspawn: i've found it
[11:00] <gnomefreak> _jason: you can run an .sh file from a cd or would coping the cd to a folder make more sense?
[11:00] <_jason> gnomefreak: you'd have to do sh file.sh I believe
[11:00] <crunchyfish> belarc is decent for finding out your motherboard, but that may only be for windows
[11:01] <kingspawn> kuttekind: okay?
[11:01] <kingspawn> kuttekind: also do modprobe -l tg3
[11:01] <_jason> gnomefreak: but copying would work too of course
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Ditiris: i would transfer it to home or whatever dir you choose than run it.
[11:01] <prospero2005> Are there any front ends for beagle ?
[11:01] <kuttekind> hmm
[11:01] <Ditiris> gnomefreak, yeah, my cp -r is bringing the system to its knees as we speak - err... type.
[11:01] <gnomefreak> _jason: he cant run the sh foo.sh while its in cdrom (thought was starnge)
[11:01] <kuttekind> i can see /lib/modules/ and so on
[11:02] <kingspawn> kuttekind: hey, tell me, are you still booting with acpi off?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> Ditiris: i find it easier to drag and drop it sometimes
[11:02] <kuttekind> yes
[11:02] <eck> prospero2005: best if you are on breezy, deskbar if you are on dapper
[11:02] <kingspawn> kuttekind: agh, too bad, found a couple of people saying that editing the menu.lst and adding acpi=off to kernel boot fixed your problems
[11:03] <kuttekind> lol :D
[11:03] <kuttekind> right ^^
[11:03] <kingspawn> kuttekind: you are sure you didnt just use acpi=off in the install?
[11:03] <manusmad> hey everyone, can anyone help me with install problems with 64-bit ubuntu 5.1?
[11:03] <kuttekind> i'm sure
[11:03] <kuttekind> its impossible to boot without acpi off
[11:03] <kingspawn> kuttekind: heh, okay. then I dont know, Im afraid
[11:03] <kuttekind> thank you for your help :)
[11:03] <kuttekind> i just
[11:04] <kingspawn> no
[11:04] <kingspawn> eh
[11:04] <kingspawn> np
[11:04] <kuttekind> i still want to try out the thing i found in the forum
[11:04] <kuttekind> okay
[11:04] <kuttekind> what i did was this sudo echo "options ipw2200 led=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/ipw2200
[11:05] <manusmad> someone, anyone please help
[11:05] <kuttekind> and it said bash bla bla bla permission denied
[11:05] <kingspawn> manusmad: you must state your problem
[11:05] <Ditiris> gnomefreak, lol good news, bad news
[11:05] <kingspawn> kuttekind: you got permission denied using sudo?
[11:05] <prospero2005> I installed the deskbar package. How would I start it?
[11:05] <kuttekind> lol yes :p
[11:05] <Ditiris> gnomefreak, good news, install worked fine from home directory.  bad news, cdrom device now inaccessible.
[11:05] <void^> the redirection isn't covered by sudo
[11:05] <void^> use | sudo tee or something
[11:05] <eck> prospero2005: right click on the gnome panel and then use Add to panel
[11:06] <kuttekind> | sudo
[11:06] <kingspawn> void^: ah, I missed that one
[11:06] <kuttekind> like that?
[11:06] <prospero2005> dang, I'm kde
[11:06] <eck> prospero2005: i'm sure there's some kde packages, but i'm not sure what they are
[11:06] <prospero2005> eck thanks
[11:06] <jeighke> I'm trying to find where the default umask is set, anyone?
[11:07] <kingspawn> jeighke: its set with the umask command
[11:07] <jeighke> i mean for all future logins
[11:07] <manusmad> i tried ubuntu 5.1 64bit install on my AMD Athlon 64bit 3000+ processor with Asus K8S-MX MB ... cannot find my logical partitions in the partition manager.
[11:07] <kingspawn> jeighke: /etc/login.defs
[11:07] <jeighke> redirected me to pam.d
[11:08] <DBO> jeighke, /etc/profile
[11:08] <jeighke> tried that
[11:08] <kuttekind> void^: the sudo tee gave me permission denied too
[11:08] <jeighke> and the.profile, .bashrc
[11:08] <manusmad> kingspawn: problem stated
[11:08] <kingspawn> manusmad: indeed, now we'll see if someone can help you out
[11:09] <kingspawn> kuttekind: just edit /etc/modprobe.d/ipw2200 and put that line in yourself
[11:09] <robin_> why can't i apt-get vlc, i can't imagine ubuntu not suporting the best cros platform media player...
[11:09] <kingspawn> robin_: you can :)
[11:09] <_jason> robin_: enable universe
[11:09] <kingspawn> !universe
[11:09] <DBO> !tell robin_ about repos
[11:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:09] <kingspawn> haha
[11:10] <sixtywatt> can anyone recommend a good torrent client besides azureus?
[11:10] <kingspawn> we got him there about the repos
[11:10] <kuttekind> this just got worse
[11:10] <robin_> thx
[11:10] <paulo> alguem usa HP 1020 no ubuntu?
[11:10] <void^> kuttekind: what did you run, exactly?
[11:10] <kuttekind> kingspawn : ipw2200 doesn't even exist :s
[11:10] <eck> sixtywatt: rtorrent is nice, if you don't mind a cli client
[11:10] <kuttekind> the file isn't there in the folder
[11:11] <sixtywatt> eck, thank you I will check it out now
[11:11] <manusmad> someone plz help cannot find my partitions while installing ubuntu 5.1 on SATA HDD
[11:11] <crimson> i need to install my driver but i can't be in X to do it
[11:11] <_jason> crimson: what driver?
[11:11] <crimson> nvidia graphics driver
[11:11] <megadeth> chileans?? or sourthAMEICANS?
[11:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell crimson about nvidia
[11:12] <crimson> _jason: thank you
[11:12] <kuttekind> manusmad: are those partitions to any use?
[11:12] <paulo> anybody use HP 1020 in ubuntu?
[11:12] <david324132> Hey. Does anyone know how to use the "xmacrorec" command?
[11:13] <david324132> Just an example call will do
[11:13] <manusmad> kuttekind: i have winxp running and cleared one partition 10GB for inst. ubuntu
[11:13] <megadeth> alguien que sea sudamericano o que hable espaol?
[11:13] <_jason> david324132: I've used it, now remembering how is a different story.  Let me play with it
[11:13] <gnomefreak> !es
[11:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:13] <kuttekind> no hablo mucho espanol perdon
[11:13] <r0xoR> building a kernel on ubuntu takes WAY too long
[11:14] <david324132> _jason: Thanks. I just have no clue what the "remote_display" argument is ^^
[11:14] <kuttekind> okay manusmad i've made a dualboot on my laptop
[11:14] <kuttekind> i can give you the site
[11:14] <kuttekind> just give me a sec :)
[11:14] <robin_> can I force apt to install vlc on dapper?, or (apt says the packet may be stuck in 'incoming') is it just not ready for dapper yet?
[11:14] <manusmad> ok
[11:14] <nekostar> well
[11:14] <nekostar> at least the repositories are good
[11:15] <_jason> david324132: xmacrorec :0.0, that's usually the right display to use.
[11:15] <nekostar> robin_,
[11:15] <nekostar> lemme try
[11:15] <r0xoR> what's the rationale behind building a .deb to install a kernel when "make && make modules_install && make install" works just fine with 2.6
[11:16] <nekostar> because it often fucks fup r0xoR
[11:16] <david324132> _jason: My mouse disappears -_-. haha
[11:16] <polpak> r0xoR, to make uninstalling a kernel easier?
[11:16] <kuttekind> manusmad : http://www.hezardastan.org/breezy_xp_dualboot/en/
[11:16] <kuttekind> here you go
[11:16] <nekostar> polpak, that doesnt really apply
[11:16] <kuttekind> that should help you
[11:16] <r0xoR> mmm... it takes way longer though
[11:16] <r0xoR> but ok
[11:16] <nekostar> one can just add on that last command checkinstall make install
[11:16] <manusmad> thanks i will refer it and get back to you
[11:16] <nekostar> which works fine with every single thing ive tossed at it so far
[11:16] <kuttekind> make sure you back some stuff up
[11:16] <manusmad> ok
[11:16] <kuttekind> manusmad : it is alot of work :p
[11:17] <kuttekind> i did it at a lanparty ^^
[11:17] <Delaril> hi, could anyone help me out with some shell commands to fix a damaged drive?
[11:17] <nekostar> !flood
[11:17] <ubotu> I heard flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[11:17] <david324132> _jason: I have a stupid question for you. How can I register for Freenode?
[11:17] <ompaul> !register
[11:17] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:17] <FennyLAP> can anyone here help me with a grub install
[11:17] <_jason> ompaul: too quick for me
[11:17] <FennyLAP> it is installing on the wrong drive :\
[11:17] <david324132> !register
[11:17] <kuttekind> lol
[11:17] <ompaul> _jason, whats wrong with you guys tonight :)
[11:18] <nekostar> robin_,
[11:18] <nekostar> check this link
[11:18] <robin_> yeah
[11:18] <_jason> david324132: seems just xmacrorec :0, works too
[11:18] <david324132> _jason: Thanks
[11:18] <_jason> david324132: do you know what xmacrorec2 is for?
[11:18] <nekostar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13035 robin_
[11:19] <nekostar> see?
[11:19] <nekostar> worked great
[11:19] <nekostar> try " sudo apt-get -f install "
[11:19] <david324132> _jason: Nope. I've never even heard of it
[11:19] <nekostar> should fix stuff
[11:19] <nekostar> if i remember the tag correctly
[11:19] <nekostar> if you still have trouble
[11:19] <nekostar> do " sudo apt-get clean "
[11:19] <nekostar> then -f install
[11:19] <nekostar> then install it
[11:19] <nekostar> or use synaptic to remove and reinstall
[11:19] <nekostar> i cant remember that tag
[11:19] <vinadelmar> can someone confirm if there is something like xserver-xorg-dev in breezy ?
[11:20] <Hexidigital> nekostar, what does the -f do with apt?
[11:20] <nekostar> Hexidigital, i think of it as -fixstuff install
[11:20] <nekostar> dont know what its supposedly named... try " man apt-get "
[11:20] <kuttekind> kingspawn : ty for all the help i'm giving up slowly and see if i can find something else to help me
[11:20] <Hexidigital> nekostar: good way to remember it :) thanks
[11:20] <Delaril> could anyone please help me fix my damaged hdd?
[11:21] <kingspawn> kuttekind: we gave it a shot :)
[11:21] <kuttekind> ^^
[11:21] <ompaul> Delaril, if its physical damage not really what do you mean by damaged
[11:21] <kingspawn> Delaril: what do you mean by damaged?
[11:21] <biovore> vinadelmar: apt-cache search xlib | grep dev
[11:21] <Delaril> the partition table is intact
[11:21] <kuttekind> okay delaril
[11:21] <Delaril> but I can't run fsck
[11:21] <kuttekind> grab a copy of xp
[11:21] <kuttekind> boot it
[11:21] <david324132> _jason: Does your mouse disappear as well when you run xmacrorec?
[11:22] <kuttekind> choose repair
[11:22] <kuttekind> and then do chkdsk -r
[11:22] <nekostar> robin_, and it seems vlc works fine.
[11:22] <kuttekind> and hope you don't fuck it up :p
[11:22] <Delaril> kuttekind: tried, I get the message "seems to be damaged beyond repair" or something
[11:22] <kuttekind> lol
[11:22] <kuttekind> thats cute
[11:22] <nekostar> though im of the opinion that its one of the worst players ever coded
[11:22] <Toraman> selam
[11:22] <kuttekind> i had that a while back too
[11:22] <kingspawn> Delaril: what output do you get if you try to do fdisk -l /dev/hdx where x is your disk
[11:22] <biovore> "seems to be damaged beyond repair"  -- aka fubared
[11:22] <_jason> david324132: yeah, hmm didn't used to do that.  Are you running breezy?
[11:22] <ompaul> Delaril, start a live cd mount the partition backup data
[11:22] <eck> vinadelmar: maybe x-window-system-dev
[11:23] <robin_> nekostar,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13036, i supose it's the NL version wich isn't ready. I'll add the english mirror for universe :P
[11:23] <_jason> david324132: you mean xmacrorec right?
[11:23] <david324132> _jason: Yeah, I'm using Breezy.
[11:23] <nekostar> lemme look at it robin_
[11:23] <david324132> _jason: Yeah, xmacrorec
[11:23] <jadaz87> if i want to see if a package is installed from terminal how do i do that?
[11:24] <biovore> jadaz87: dpkg -l | grep package
[11:24] <nekostar> robin_, one second
[11:24] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: apt-cache policy package
[11:24] <david324132> _jason: Do you suggest compiling from the src on xmacrorec.sf.net?
[11:24] <nekostar> translate my sources list first
[11:24] <_jason> david324132: yes, my mouse disappears.  I think it's find
[11:24] <Delaril> kingspawn: I get a list of my partition table
[11:24] <david324132> _jason: i mean xmacro.sf.net, haha. ok
[11:24] <biovore> Delaril: fdisk /dev/hda  (or what ever your HD is)
[11:24] <Delaril> kingspawn: everything seems in order, correct filesystems
[11:24] <Delaril> biovore: yeah I did that
[11:24] <nekostar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13037  <<--- thats what i use robin_
[11:24] <_jason> david324132: I haven't tried it, but it shouldn't be too difficult
[11:25] <Hexidigital> what's the link for an irc channel?  is it irc://irc.freenode.net#channelname?
[11:25] <Delaril> biovore: shows my partition table. any details you want?
[11:25] <nekostar> notice that the backports and the cipherfunk  are commented out. but u better take out that breezy line.
[11:25] <biovore> Delaril: can linux mount any of those partions?
[11:25] <Hexidigital> eh... guess it is... it's underlined :)
[11:25] <david324132> _jason: I'll probably just not worry about it. It was just for the sake of being lazy anyway
[11:25] <jadaz87> biovore gnomefreak it is a package i manually installed
[11:25] <nekostar> hope that helps :)
[11:26] <Delaril> biovore: well, I've already mounted my reiserfs linux partition "hdb2"
[11:26] <nekostar> !start a browser war
[11:26] <ubotu> nekostar: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:26] <nekostar> eh damn it was somthing like that
[11:26] <nekostar> :/
[11:26] <_jason> david324132: only time I used it was to setup some stuff in xbindkeys, so that never got in the way
[11:26] <Delaril> biovore: should I try mounting the windows partition?
[11:26] <biovore> Delaril: you can try..
[11:26] <przemek> Witam:)
[11:26] <ompaul> nekostar, no wars in here
[11:26] <kingspawn> Delaril: are you using grub as your bootmanager?
[11:26] <ompaul> nekostar, blocked
[11:26] <Delaril> kingspawn: yeah
[11:26] <kingspawn> Delaril: have you tried rewriting it to the mbr?
[11:27] <Delaril> kingspawn: I get error 17, sometimes error 18.
[11:27] <Delaril> kingspawn: how do I do that?
[11:27] <nekostar> ompaul, was working lately... when did they block it?
[11:27] <biovore> Delaril: I am guessing you have a 2 HD system..
[11:27] <nekostar> i see im still banned in +1 trition or wtf ever his name is is still a bitch lol
[11:27] <biovore> Delaril: grub error 18,17?
[11:27] <kingspawn> !grub
[11:27] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:27] <jadaz87> !language
[11:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:27] <LinuxJones> nekostar: no wonder you were banned
[11:27] <nekostar> funny thing... most of the time i do more fixing than getting fixed ~_~
[11:28] <Delaril> biovore: I get this message: "mount: /dev/hdb1 has wrong device number or fs type ntfs not supported"
[11:28] <ompaul> nekostar, you know the drill leave the language at the door please
[11:28] <valentyn> who has problems using RHYTHMBOX?
[11:28] <kingspawn> biovore: is that when you are trying to boot windows or linux?
[11:28] <biovore> Delaril: you doing a sudo mount /dev/hdb1 -t ntfs /media/mount_point
[11:28] <jadaz87> biovore gnomefreak it is a package i manually installed it was the dj mixing program mixxx
[11:28] <s|k> what's the difference between a package and a dummy package?
[11:29] <nekostar> ompaul, im clearly compairing a grumpy person to the proper nomer for a female dog; which are usually rather grumpy themselves. its a perfectly legit comparison.
[11:29] <valentyn> dunno
[11:29] <lampshade> what does ignoring uknown interface eth2 mean??
[11:29] <biovore> kingspawn: ?
[11:29] <lampshade> when I ifup something :-/
[11:29] <nekostar> lampshade,
[11:29] <kingspawn> biovore: ?
[11:29] <biovore> lolz
[11:29] <nekostar> eth0 is first then eth1 etc etc
[11:29] <nekostar> you might have 2 cards and a network bridge in the chipsets
[11:30] <nekostar> mine sees the bridge as a ethX addy
[11:30] <Delaril> biovore: I should do that? I get the message "mount point /media/mount_point does not exist"
[11:30] <lampshade> I have 3 cards now basically, eth0, which isn't up at all, eth1 which is up and talking to you  this way, and I just through in an old card to play around with, and iwconfig sees it, but it won't bring up at all
[11:30] <robin_> nekostar,  lol, i had my sources pointing to the universe of breezy, while the rest was dapper :( my bad !!
[11:30] <nekostar> lol robin_ that would do it.
[11:30] <HymnToLife> Delaril> obviously /mount_point is a dir where you want to mount your stuff
[11:30] <valentyn> who has problems using RHYTHMBOX?
[11:30] <nekostar> personally i choose to enable universe and multiverse on everything.
[11:31] <blind> I have no problems at all with rythmbox.
[11:31] <nekostar> i dont care about liscensing as i own legit everything in windows.
[11:31] <nekostar> besides. i came here b/c i was tired of pirating windows.
[11:31] <biovore> Delaril: hmm grub error 17 is when grub can't find the select partion
[11:31] <valentyn> thanx for answer
[11:31] <lampshade> valentyn, me a little, but I have problems with all media players.  Banshee is the worst, try to play a song and then rearrange the columns hahah
[11:31] <nekostar> or rather the key that was sold to me turned out to be pirated or something like that ~_~
[11:31] <blind> I wasn't tired of pirating it. I was tired of USING it haha
[11:31] <Delaril> HymnToLife: ah.
[11:31] <nekostar> blind, that too
[11:32] <ompaul> valentyn, tell people what you can;t do with it and then see if you get help
[11:32] <nekostar> though this digital rights management better get cracked soon.
[11:32] <jadaz87> blind me too i have been windows free for almost three months
[11:32] <blind> so you pirated the software, but then bought the cd key? aha
[11:32] <jadaz87> haha
[11:32] <blind> nice. i've been windows free for like a month or so.
[11:32] <nekostar> blind, the pc came with xp
[11:32] <khafra> unzip unzips into the current dir, or into an arbitrary dir.
[11:32] <nekostar> but i had to reinstall.
[11:32] <nekostar> but they did not give me reinstall disks
[11:32] <khafra> Is there any way I can unzip multiple files in different directories each into their own directory?
[11:32] <nekostar> and the copy i had taken was corrupted
[11:32] <blind> so you paid? lol
[11:32] <nekostar> therefore i had to do something...
[11:32] <blind> ametuer :P
[11:32] <nekostar> so i downloaded a copy :P
[11:32] <blind> amateur.
[11:33] <biovore> Delaril: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/<inster_HD_device_here>  /media/<some_mount_point_here>
[11:33] <blind> how the f.. do you spell that
[11:33] <valentyn> Rhythmbox can't read the id3 tags from my songs and shows the wrong song duration
[11:33] <nekostar> blind, the dvdrom drive was shit they gave me.
[11:33] <blind> yeah it's amateur
[11:33] <nekostar> and for the record
[11:33] <ompaul> blind offtopic?
[11:33] <FennyLAP> hey guys
[11:33] <ompaul> :)
[11:33] <blind>  :D
[11:33] <khafra> Maybe with regex or something?  But I don't know what command would do it
[11:33] <valentyn> hey
[11:33] <FennyLAP> how do I boot off the cd?
[11:33] <nekostar> i didnt HAVE to buy the key
[11:33] <nekostar> :P
[11:33] <FennyLAP> it keeps taking me to the setup screen
[11:33] <Delaril> biovore: tried that now. still get "/dev/hdb1 has wrong device number or fs type ntfs not supported"
[11:33] <khafra> Would I have to write a short perl script to do that?  I don't know perl
[11:33] <blind> no, you didn't have to. but you DID
[11:33] <blind> :P
[11:33] <nekostar> ive got a few hundred [or had]  that worked at the time
[11:33] <soundray> khafra: sounds like a matter of writing the right bash "for" one-liner.
[11:33] <nekostar> yes i did
[11:33] <FennyLAP> I want to get to bash not install
[11:33] <nekostar> i was gonna sell the system
[11:33] <nekostar> XD
[11:33] <nekostar> to my brother
[11:33] <robin_> nekostar, and it works. thanks, i realy wanted to make sure this pc works ok, it's a quad seat pc for some other ppl...
[11:33] <nekostar> he wanted a legit key
[11:33] <nekostar> XD
[11:34] <nekostar> robin_,
[11:34] <biovore> Delaril: is /dev/hdb1 your windows partion?
[11:34] <Terminus> khafra: just an idea, but maybe you can use find and then pipe it to xargs? :)
[11:34] <valentyn> hey
[11:34] <Delaril> biovore: yes
[11:34] <valentyn> hey
[11:34] <g-henna> hi
[11:34] <blind> brb
[11:34] <valentyn> Rhythmbox can't read the id3 tags from my songs and shows the wrong song duration
[11:34] <biovore> Delaril: whats on hda?
[11:34] <khafra> Terminus: find would probably be part of the solution.  I guess I'll have to do some reading on xargs
[11:34] <jadaz87> !tell nekostar about offtopic
[11:34] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install xine-ui gxine mplayer-386
[11:34] <g-henna> what packages do i need to install to be able to write, compile and execute java source code?
[11:34] <Delaril> biovore: well, nothing. the master device is the cdrom
[11:34] <nekostar> then run mplayer and go to preferences and select vo=xv
[11:34] <ompaul> valentyn, wait 10 minutes to ask again
[11:34] <biovore> Delaril: ah.. ok
[11:35] <soundray> !java
[11:35] <g-henna> preferrably with a free java implementation
[11:35] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:35] <Terminus> khafra: something like 'find -iname *.zip|xargs -IARG unzip ARG -d ARG' maybe.
[11:35] <valentyn> OK
[11:35] <nekostar> jadaz87,
[11:35] <nekostar> if you think thats offtopic your a f00l
[11:35] <khafra> Terminus: maybe I'll give that a shot--hey, what's the worst that could happen?
[11:35] <Delaril> biovore: stupid cable layout restriction forced me to have both my harddisks as slaves ><
[11:35] <ompaul> nekostar, I think your windows conversation was offtopic
[11:35] <biovore> Delaril: so 1 HD  parttion 1 is windows, and partion 2 (and others) are linux?
[11:35] <nekostar> windows + ubuntu is very on topic.
[11:35] <Terminus> khafra: the worst would probably not being to make a directory or make everything very messy. =D
[11:35] <nalioth> nekostar: windows is off topic here
[11:36] <nekostar> damn
[11:36] <nekostar> fine ok nalioth
[11:36] <jadaz87> nekostar this is a support channel not a operating system discussion panel
[11:36] <Delaril> biovore: true.
[11:36] <Terminus> or maybe him being disconnected is the worst that could happen. lol
[11:36] <nekostar> jadaz87, unless you start talking about how to make something in windows work in ubuntu rite? dont forget that rite? ~_~
[11:36] <nekostar> eh fuckkit
[11:36] <jadaz87> nalioth has anything been done to speed up the Ubuntu boot process
[11:36] <nekostar> nalioth, ban me for a while
[11:36] <[Gandhi] > buenas
[11:37] <nalioth> as you wish
[11:37] <biovore> Delaril: did you do a sudo modprobe ntfs?
[11:37] <Delaril> biovore: nope
[11:37] <Delaril> will do now
[11:37] <Khaaaaan> Sup dawgs
[11:37] <blind> What program would you use for burning a VCD in ubuntu? (don't tell me k3b, it's not working. I just burned one and it's 'corrupt')
[11:37] <khaladan> i'm doing a server install of Dapper Drake 6.06, but i want to get x, gnome and gdm on there-- what packages do i need?
[11:37] <jadaz87> blind k3b.....oh i see
[11:37] <blind> gnome AND gdm?
[11:38] <Delaril> biovore: now I get no error message while mounting... will check the directory structure
[11:38] <lampshade> Anyone know?  unknown interface eth2=eth2?  wtf?
[11:38] <nomad> I have a question, I try to play some music and no sound comes out,. Its clearly playing, i can see the time counting along, but still no sound.
[11:38] <soundray> khaladan: all you need is ubuntu-desktop. It depends on the things you mention.
[11:38] <biovore> Delaril: so it alive now..
[11:38] <nalioth> khaladan: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion, please
[11:38] <crimsun> nomad: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[11:38] <biovore> Delaril: do a mount and see if it mounted it
[11:38] <Delaril> biovore: directories and files are intact
[11:38] <crimsun> nomad: then tell me the url
[11:38] <khaladan> ubuntu-desktop is exactly what i don't want...
[11:39] <deefzi> anyone running nforce/self-compiled kernel and have managed to install those drivers supplied by nvidia?
[11:39] <soundray> khaladan: then look at the output of 'apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop' and pick-and-mix
[11:39] <nomad> ds
[11:39] <Delaril> biovore: it's mounted, ls shows directories and files fine
[11:39] <nomad> crimsun: I don't see a url
[11:39] <biovore> Delaril: ok.. so now you want to be able to boot windows I guess?
[11:40] <nomad> oh wait a minute...
[11:40] <Marsmensch> can wmf be played under linux
[11:40] <lampshade> Marsmensch, I think some can
[11:40] <Delaril> biovore: yes, but I can't boot ubuntu either. grub fails
[11:40] <lampshade> lemme check real quick
[11:40] <xbox_sky> What is the evaluation of the mathematical expression (log 100 - ln e * 2)?
[11:40] <xbox_sky> :O
[11:40] <soundray> Marsmensch: yes. You should install windows codecs -- look out for ubotu...
[11:40] <blind> "K3b will create a VCD image from the given MPEG files, but these files must already be in VCD format." -- anyone happen to know what format that is? :\
[11:40] <lampshade> log100 - 2
[11:40] <soundray> !tell Marsmensch about w32codecs
[11:40] <biovore> Delaril: oh.. ok.. well just re-setup grub then.. 1 sec, while I remember how to do this...
[11:41] <Marsmensch> thx
[11:41] <lampshade> pull down the 2 with the power rule and then ln(e) is just 1
[11:41] <nomad> crimsun: Where do you want me to paste that?
[11:41] <Delaril> biovore: but this is an ongoing problem I've been having. the boot sector seems to become damaged every now and then. but I've always been able to fix it with windows xp rescue mode
[11:41] <FennyLAP> hey guys.. how do I get to a prompt from the cd instead of the installation process?
[11:41] <_jason> math tutoring in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:41] <valentyn> Rhythmbox can't read the id3 tags from my songs and shows the wrong song duration. Do someone know the problem?
[11:41] <biovore> Delaril: well the error 17, and 18 look to me like you bios is moving stuff around on you
[11:41] <Delaril> biovore: and in-depth hdd scan shows no physical damage to the disc
[11:41] <lampshade> FennyLAP, ctrl+alt+F3 should get you to a console.  Use the F#'s
[11:42] <biovore> Delaril: which totaly messes with grub
[11:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> valentyn: Aside from Rhythmbox being a lousy music player? :)
[11:42] <biovore> Delaril: sudo grub-install
[11:42] <Delaril> biovore: okay, so my motherboard is giving me problems then? any way to fix that?
[11:42] <FennyLAP> that didnt work....
[11:42] <biovore> Delaril: well welcome to the era of automagical..  its awsome when it works.. but a total pain in the but when it dosen't
[11:43] <nomad> crimsun: Ok i went to the site and posted it there.
[11:43] <hollywoodb> Delaril: tried memtest86 yet?  I've had bad memory cause filesystem corruption, even badblocks reported bad blocks that weren't actually there
[11:43] <Delaril> biovore: but this has been a problem to a smaller or larger extent with my system the past year
[11:44] <lampshade> Marsmensch, you don't have a link to one by chance?  I can definitely do wmv, I had to install  the windows codecs, however, but that wasn't hard.  I think it can but look for another source cause I'm not sure :-/
[11:44] <valentyn> i dont understand you PuMpErNiCkLe
[11:44] <[phiz] > what is the official way to upgrade firefox 1.0.7 to the latest
[11:44] <FennyLAP> any other ideas on how to get to a prompt?
[11:44] <HymnToLife> !ff1.5
[11:44] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:44] <biovore> Delaril: booting up my dapper test box.. I'll give you instructions on how to install and setup grub..
[11:44] <Delaril> hollywoodb: actually, the last time I fixed this problem it was my oldest RAM chip that was totally corrupted. the new one was all fine
[11:44] <Marsmensch> hmm i have installed w32codecs now
[11:44] <[phiz] > HymnToLife: it's not as easy as installing a new package? ok thanks
[11:45] <biovore> Delaril: how you booting into linux right now?
[11:45] <Delaril> hollywoodb: maybe my motherboard keeps corrupting my RAM? I only have 512 now, the chip is a couple of months old
[11:45] <HymnToLife> [phiz] > It's not very difficult either, just a bunch of commands to run
[11:45] <hollywoodb> Delaril: I had an nforce2 epox board that kept ruining DDR chips... turned out the capacitors on the mainboard were failing
[11:45] <valentyn> Rhythmbox can't read the id3 tags from my songs and shows the wrong song duration. Do someone know the problem?
[11:45] <Delaril> biovore: ubunty rescue mode
[11:45] <Stormchaser> 'lo. A question: I have upgraded my distro yesterday to dapper, but I seem to have minor problems with the tablet driver... I can't use it as before... I have to click on the pad tp move the cursor, which is no go... Where can I configure the tablet?
[11:46] <Hexidigital> i have googled for hours... does anyone know how to connect to a Ubuntu machine via VNC from a Windows XP machine?
[11:46] <Flannel> Stormchaser: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[11:46] <Delaril> hollywoodb: aha... I've been thinking it might be something like that, actually. that means the power isn't stable, right?
[11:46] <biovore> Delaril: ok.. you in just terminal mode?
[11:46] <Delaril> biovore: yes
[11:46] <Stormchaser> Flannel: Dog gone... Sorry...
[11:46] <biovore> Delaril: ok,  you mounted your root partion somewhere?
[11:46] <niggy> hi
[11:46] <soundray> Hexidigital: log in on Ubuntu, run vino-preferences. Use vnc client on Windows as usual.
[11:46] <hollywoodb> Delaril: yep, I had this exact issue: http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_30328/article.html
[11:46] <Delaril> biovore: yup, hdb2 is mounted as root
[11:46] <_jason> Hexidigital: realvnc.vom, download the free viewer
[11:47] <_jason> Hexidigital: .com not .vom :)
[11:47] <Hexidigital> soundray, jason: thanks guys
[11:47] <biovore> Delaril: so / is your HD then?
[11:47] <valentyn> Rhythmbox can't read the id3 tags from my songs and shows the wrong song duration. Do someone know the problem?
[11:48] <Delaril> biovore: my linux partitionm yes
[11:48] <crimsun> valentyn: gstreamer plugin issue
[11:48] <Delaril> hollywoodb: wow, interesting. this seems all too familiar...
[11:48] <biovore> Delaril: ok, assume your running with / == /dev/hdb(something)
[11:48] <biovore> Delaril: sudo grub-install /dev/hdb
[11:49] <valentyn> crimsun, reinstall the gstreamer?
[11:49] <crimsun> valentyn: no, it's not fixed (it's a MAD/id3 issue)
[11:49] <Delaril> biovore: seems to have gone well
[11:49] <Delaril> should I reboot and test now?
[11:50] <valentyn> crimsun: what shold i do? use another player?
[11:50] <biovore> ok it spit something back out hd0 (/dev/hdb) ?
[11:50] <Delaril> hollywoodb: how did you fix the problem? new MB, or change capacitors?
[11:50] <r0xoR> hi, i just recompiled my kernel and now my USB mouse stopped working in X
[11:50] <biovore> r0xoR: did you enable usb support
[11:50] <hollywoodb> Delaril: new motherboard, I needed an excuse to get an AMD 64-bit processor anyways ;)
[11:50] <r0xoR> what gives? i compiled in both mouse and USB support
[11:50] <_jason> I have 4 multimedia keys on my laptop.  xev catches them as XF86AudioPlay and so on.   However I restarted X with ctrl-alt-backspace and now, even though xev still catches them, metacity is not.  I have keybinds that used to work before I restarted X and now they are not working.  Any ideas, or am I in for a reboot?
[11:50] <r0xoR> biovore: yup
[11:50] <valentyn> you dont need the mouse in LINUX :)
[11:51] <r0xoR> also, when i boot,i get a bunch of insmod messages saying "module not found"
[11:51] <r0xoR> they're all video drivers
[11:51] <r0xoR> which really is not much more than a minor annoyance because it slows down my boot time
[11:51] <r0xoR> but still, it slows down my boot time
[11:51] <Delaril> hollywoodb: hehe. I think I'm going to use this as an excuse to get rid of my 4-year-old, cheesy home modded, noisy and HUGE desktop and get a laptop =p
[11:52] <msprauer> how can i get my vncserver to run with fluxbox
[11:52] <r0xoR> i have a PS/2 mouse and i tried plugging it in and switching to /dev/psaux but that didn't work either
[11:52] <eck> r0xoR: if you don't want modules to load then blacklist them
[11:52] <r0xoR> and yeah i've restarted X with CTRL-ALT-Backspace each time
[11:52] <r0xoR> eck: ok how
[11:52] <Delaril> biovore: anything else I need to do before rebooting?
[11:52] <soundray> msprauer: install x11vnc
[11:52] <biovore> Delaril: check you /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[11:52] <msprauer> soundray: okay, i'll give it a whorl
[11:52] <hollywoodb> Delaril: heh, I bouth an antec Sonata II case with a bunch of acoustifoam... needs quieter fan and it weighs a ton, but its pretty quiet
[11:52] <eck> r0xoR: create a blacklist file in /etc/modprobe.d
[11:53] <eck> r0xoR: name it whatever you want and for each module foo, put a line that says blacklist foo
[11:53] <soundray> hollywoodb: I have that case, too. Nice and quiet, even without foam.
[11:53] <Delaril> hollywoodb: I'm going to be moving around a lot the next few years, probably a new part of the country each year due to school.
[11:53] <Delaril> biovore: how do I check it? which command? (I'm not familiar with shell commands at all)
[11:54] <earl_> can someone help me setup my ATI fglrx driver 8.24 under dapper? I'm currently getting the following error in Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13039
[11:54] <msprauer> soundray: now how do i use this? im reading the manpage
[11:54] <eck> Delaril: less /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:54] <FennyLAP> is there no way to get to a standard prompt from the installation disk?
[11:54] <Delaril> thanks eck =)
[11:54] <eck> Delaril: or open it in a text editor like nano or gedit
[11:54] <crimsun> nomad: ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[11:55] <soundray> msprauer: try running it from a terminal, no options needed. Chances are it figures out what you want by itself.
[11:55] <drew> hello
[11:55] <nomad> crimsun: whats the pastebin URL again?
[11:55] <profoX`> hello
[11:55] <crimsun> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:55] <profoX`> itsi n the topic nomad
[11:55] <msprauer> soundray: okay, gonna try now
[11:55] <drew> hey can someone tell me how to generate a xorg.conf file in ubuntu
[11:55] <bimberi> !xorg
[11:55] <ubotu> from memory, xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[11:56] <zzz> FennyLAP: What do You mean under standard prompt? If You press ALT + F2, is it not that what You want?
[11:56] <biovore> Delaril: you just need to check that the /dev/hdb (hd0) that grub-install said you had matches up with what root is (hd0,0) or what ever it is..
[11:56] <drew> thanks
[11:56] <nomad> crimsun: ok its um
[11:56] <nomad> crimsun: up*
[11:56] <msprauer> soundray: ahh okay, so i should just run that as a daemon on fluxbox startup
[11:56] <crimsun> nomad: url?
[11:56] <chamo> what's the dbus system alert I get at startup ? any idea ?!?
[11:56] <Delaril> biovore: it's all good
[11:57] <biovore> Delaril: ok reboot and see what it dose..  if you drop to a grub prompt on boot.. I'll tell you how to manual boot the box using grub.
[11:57] <nomad> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13040
[11:57] <soundray> msprauer: I haven't used it that way, but I reckon it should work just as well.
[11:57] <biovore> (if you still online)
[11:58] <msprauer> soundray: cool cool thangs
[11:58] <Delaril> biovore: I'm on a seperate pc, so that's fine
[11:58] <Delaril> but how do I exit "less"?
[11:58] <biovore> Delaril: q
[11:58] <Delaril> ah
[11:58] <crimsun> nomad: in a Terminal type: amixer -c0 sset 'Front' 80% && amixer -c0 sset 'Front' on
[11:58] <FennyLAP> zzz.. alt F2 does nothing for me
[11:58] <FennyLAP> it just says boot: and thats it
[11:58] <valentyn> Rhythmbox can't read the id3 tags from my songs and shows the wrong song duration. Do someone know the problem?
[11:59] <biovore> valentyn: did you install the id tag lib?
[11:59] <zzz> FennyLAP: I don' t understand well. Do You mean during installation process? What about ctrl + alt + F2?
[11:59] <soundray> FennyLAP: boot it to the point where it asks the first question
[11:59] <netgeek60> I installed Dapper beta 1 last week... How can I now upgrade to Dapper Beta 2?
[11:59] <Flannel> netgeek60: just update
[11:59] <valentyn> biovore: which packge?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> netgeek60: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:59] <biovore> netgeek60: apt-get upgrade, apt-get update
[11:59] <biovore> valentyn: do a apt-cache seach libtag
[11:59] <netgeek60> Ok - I thought it may be dist-upgrade
[11:59] <Delaril> biovore: but I can't do a soft shutdown or reboot... "shutdown: timeout/writing control channel /dev/initctl"