=== mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu [12:20] ok, so where were we. === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu === axl000 [n=axl@167-48-89.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [01:56] i upgrade dapper, but the kernel is still 2.6.15-19, how can i sitch to 15-21 (he last kernel i guest)? sorry for my bad english === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@201.214.72.220] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-220-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA3 [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-173-238.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-169-25.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-220-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-220-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco_ [n=jsg123@125.212.127.15] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco_ is now known as jsgotangco === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.226.58.112] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-220-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-169-25.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:42] mornin [08:42] !seen Bluekuja [08:42] bluekuja is currently on #kubuntu (1d 10h 44m 37s) #edubuntu (1d 10h 44m 37s) #ubuntu (1d 10h 44m 37s) [08:42] !seen ogra [08:42] ogra is currently on #edubuntu #ubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [08:55] cool bot! who owns it? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [09:34] edubuntugirl: morning [09:34] salut, highvoltage! [09:41] hi highvoltage === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [10:00] hi cbx33, juliux [10:00] morning highvoltage [10:17] bbl === mwright1night [n=mwright1@203-214-48-213.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #edubuntu [12:44] hello === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === loogaroo [n=manuel@u-124-094.adsl.univie.ac.at] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === nomad_ [n=nomad@c-68-50-246-80.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === MagnusGoldstein [n=MagnusGo@dsl-202-52-57-085.sa.veridas.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:58] evening === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [04:22] quiet 2nite [04:23] hi [04:23] its saturday :) [04:24] indeed it is === nomad [n=nomad@c-68-50-246-80.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:28] that was a quick nap [04:28] hey [04:29] hey jsgotangco === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:30] good afternoon all [04:32] wow quiet in here today [04:33] !seen Bluekuja [04:33] bluekuja is currently on #kubuntu (1d 18h 36m 17s) #edubuntu (1d 18h 36m 17s) #ubuntu (1d 18h 36m 17s) [04:33] !seen ogra [04:33] ogra is currently on #edubuntu (1h 21m 40s) #ubuntu (1h 21m 40s) [04:34] !seen highvoltage [04:34] highvoltage is currently on #edubuntu (3h 46m 29s) #ubuntu (3h 46m 29s) [04:34] hehehe [04:34] peteeeee [04:34] :) [04:35] yeah, quite quiet [04:35] hi highvoltage [04:35] :) [04:35] pete yesterday night i was away [04:36] hi Bluekuja [04:36] cbx33: gone? [04:36] hi all [04:36] hey pete [04:36] i was away at a film festival [04:36] howz it going Anrea [04:36] hehe [04:36] ahh excellent [04:36] see anything good? [04:36] really good im a little less tired [04:37] i went to bed at 4:00 o 'clock [04:37] heheh [04:37] :) [04:37] have you seen last edit? [04:37] yes [04:37] nice isnt it? [04:37] indeed it is [04:37] pete [04:37] yes [04:39] highvoltage: when you're free join us in the other channel, you can suggest us something === highvoltage read throught it again this morning, getting nice and big [04:40] what channel? [04:40] #edubuntu-doc [04:40] #edubuntu-doc [04:40] where is the current work in progress? [04:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy#preview [04:40] school advocacy manifesto [04:40] join us jsgotangco === nomad [n=nomad@c-68-50-246-80.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:33] Anyone on here? I need a little help [05:33] tell us nomad [05:33] Can't get any sound off the internet, whether it be a flash game or a music video online... [05:34] mmm... i have seen a bug regarding it in launchpad [05:34] wait [05:34] i check it out [05:34] I however can get audio offline through rythmbox and kaffiene, so forth [05:34] ok [05:35] cbx33: have you seen that bug too? [05:35] no never [05:36] okie, let me search it [05:37] nomad: release? browser type and browser version? === Sonofaq [n=blondefr@cpc1-sout1-0-0-cust45.sot3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu [05:40] Breezy Badger, firefox, let me check the version [05:40] version 1.0.8 [05:40] what about update it? [05:41] How would I go about that? install it through synaptic? [05:41] you can easily compile it [05:41] i provide you a link [05:41] hiya bluekuj [05:42] alright [05:42] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion [05:42] follow commands [05:42] you'll able to update it easily [05:42] hi sonofaw :) [05:42] *aq [05:42] ^^ [05:42] bbl [05:43] k [05:43] i left my dead harddrive at mine and petes schol so im runnning on an old TIME machine on a live cd [05:43] lol [05:43] nice [05:43] :) [05:43] it run better than any windows that ever went on it [05:43] of course it does [05:43] it's on linux [05:44] when pete returns we will restart talking [05:44] hes here [05:44] i go to drink something [05:44] he said bbl [05:44] ok [05:44] brb 10 min [05:44] ok [05:45] i'm popping out now [05:45] back in about 30-45 mins i would think [05:46] ok [05:46] havea good think guys - I'll be waiting to hear your input when ia get back [05:46] where you going === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-10-238-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [05:46] visit sick guinea pig [05:46] awww [05:46] good luck [05:46] !seen HedgeMage [05:46] hedgemage was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 1d 17h 59m 7s ago, saying: 's/da/the'. [05:47] G'day all [05:49] hi yagisan :) [05:54] bluekuja i like the changes to the wiki [05:55] :) [05:55] now it looks very nice [05:55] especily the contents bar [05:55] yep thats very nice [05:55] it gives a artist look to the wiki hehe [05:55] hehe plus it makes it easy to skip though [05:56] yep [05:56] but what do we need to add? [05:56] more links in usefull links paragraph [05:56] and more content [05:57] then when we have finished [05:57] bbiab. doing funky stuff to grub [05:57] yeah like the packages for chools in edubunutu [05:57] yep [05:57] :) [05:58] i will start to work on that as soon as have a harddrive from schoo back [05:59] perfect [06:00] Bluekuja: I followed all the directions and installed the latest firefox. However, when I try to start it, it gives me "failed to execute child process Firefox: permission denied" [06:00] just give permissions to firefox folder [06:00] thats a permission problem [06:00] just chmod [06:00] ? [06:00] Confused, chmod? [06:01] thats the command [06:01] I know, but I don't know what to type other than that. [06:01] chmod 775 or 777 [06:01] chmod 777 /home/nomad/folder [06:01] yeah i cant remeber the number codes [06:02] sudo before it === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-10-238-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [06:02] which operating sys is nomad running [06:02] or su root if you have root available [06:02] breezy [06:02] sudo chmod 777 /home/nomad/.mozilla < is that good? [06:03] yep [06:03] yeah [06:03] folder must be correct one hehehehehee [06:03] :) === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu [06:03] lol therwise you strew things up === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.226.34.228] has joined #edubuntu [06:04] still giving me the error [06:04] you have to type the correct directory [06:04] its not that one [06:05] i dont know how you structured installation [06:05] so i dont know where you put that files [06:06] what about the firefox folder in /opt ? [06:06] it can be, it depends from your installation [06:06] by the way try it [06:06] it wont make anything crassh [06:06] yes [06:06] its /opt [06:07] yeah I tried it and nothing [06:07] you have to see where firefox starts [06:07] in which dir [06:08] maybe do locate firefox [06:08] How do I do that? When i updated it it told me to unzip it to /opt and it created its own /firefox folder under /opt [06:08] do this command [06:08] locate firefox [06:08] ok [06:08] gave me a massive block of stuff [06:09] you want me to pastebin the output? [06:09] you will flood the channel [06:09] lol [06:09] just search [06:10] did you get /usr/bin/firefox [06:10] too? [06:10] in the giant block of code? [06:10] yep [06:10] edubuntugirl: hi [06:10] howsit, Bluekuja! [06:10] usr/sbin/mozilla-firefox-chrome-update [06:11] edubuntugirl: im good and you? [06:11] Bluekuja: huh? [06:11] edubuntugirl: your teacher (highvoltage) is not good hehe [06:11] Bluekuja: gotcha [06:11] lol [06:11] nomad [06:12] if you do [06:12] in bash [06:12] /usr/bin/firefox [06:12] does it works? [06:12] nothing [06:12] nope [06:12] permission denied? [06:12] still, yes [06:13] cd /usr/bin [06:13] ls -l [06:13] check permissions of that file [06:14] its open to everyone [06:14] i know... [06:14] just check firefox [06:14] one [06:14] then do chmod 777 /ust/bin/firefox [06:14] same, /usr/bin/firefox is open to everyone [06:15] so its another file [06:15] well, i can access the new firefox if i run the script in the firefox folder [06:15] firefox.sh [06:16] yep maybe the link that you have done in config files doesnt work cause permission [06:16] but to have a working browser [06:16] when you type [06:16] firefox [06:16] in bash [06:17] it must work [06:19] firefox in bash doesnt work [06:19] so you havent linked correctly [06:20] im so confused... [06:21] lol === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:21] its not hard man [06:21] i did it in 10 frend's computer [06:21] i dident get any problem [06:21] in my opinion you havent followed that page [06:22] or you have missed some steps [06:22] i did follow the page i have it open right here [06:22] do you get alwais permission denied for child process? [06:23] when you run the process [06:23] check which files does it load [06:24] use top command [06:25] for it [06:25] I'm reinstalling, hang on, this time i'm following the directions very closely [06:25] okie === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === nomad [n=nomad@c-68-50-246-80.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["tired..."] [06:57] cbx33: ping? [07:04] LaserJock: if you need something for edubuntu school manifesto you can ask me [07:05] well, Pete made a note on EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy about universities and colleges [07:05] oh yes , right [07:05] :) [07:05] so just wait him for that [07:05] ;) [07:05] at this point I don't really see how Edubuntu would work at university settings [07:06] I think the LTSP part is very applicible, but the theme isn't and really I don't think the package selection is either [07:07] mmm... yes maybe in the future [07:07] with more work and more packages we can reach also uni [07:07] but its a long trip^^ [07:08] well, I don't think it would be too hard, I just don't know if that is in the Edubuntu road map [07:08] yep, that true [07:08] well we'll see that in the near future [07:08] maybe in the next meeting [07:10] I'm sort of struggling with how that would be accomplished, would a boot option need to be added. Is there even room on the CD for anything else [07:10] yes, another setting called university [07:10] would be nice [07:10] but as you said [07:11] i dont know how much disk space will that use [07:12] maybe we need a EdubuntuUniversity spec or something [07:12] yep [07:12] it would be a nice idea [07:12] but we have to talk with oliver for that [07:19] yeah [07:20] ;) [07:21] hiya [07:23] sorry I'm a little late back [07:23] hi cbx33 [07:23] hi LaserJock [07:23] yeh, I mentioned it, and I knew you were investigating into it [07:23] cbx33: dude, I just got the first print copy of the Ubuntu Packaging Guide! [07:23] oooh yeh === cbx33 wants one [07:24] I'll be buying one when I get some cash [07:24] I think personally edubuntu has it's roots in the school market [07:24] possibly college [07:25] ubuntu with LTSP would be very usable for universities [07:25] yeah, my only problems are the theme and package selection [07:26] if we can resolve how to include both schools and unis in that, I think it would be great [07:26] well === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu [07:26] it's possibly as simple as a meta package isn't it? [07:26] ping Bluekuja [07:27] sorry I took so long [07:27] cbx33: yes, but it is also a matter of room on the cd [07:27] guinea pig has gottne a little worse [07:27] true [07:27] hey cbx33 :) [07:27] I'm back [07:27] good man [07:27] how it was? [07:27] not good [07:27] perhaps having unis do more of a server install and then get meta packages from Universe or something [07:27] yes [07:27] that was my plan [07:28] but then they might as well use the normal ubuntu cd [07:29] well, I think the ltsp part would be good [07:30] yes [07:31] Bluekuja, got time for a chat in edubuntu-doc? [07:32] yep === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-220-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b964dd.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:44] ogra, ping [09:52] Laser_away, ping [09:56] cbx33, hi [09:56] hi juliux [09:56] cbx33, it is allowed to add a screenshot to a bug report? [09:56] yes [09:56] ok [09:56] add an attachemnt [09:56] i want to write a comment [09:56] i did for tha funny small screen one we bug reported the other day [09:57] write your comment when yo uadd the attachemnt [09:57] i see it [09:59] thxs cbx33 [09:59] np juliux === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [10:05] hi highvoltage [10:05] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy [10:05] take a look at the bottom [10:05] mocked up some pages === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [10:23] hi cbx33 === highvoltage looks at page [10:23] hang on [10:23] another one just being added [10:23] ok [10:24] :p [10:24] done [10:28] cbx33: very nice :) [10:28] cbx33: your hard work is really showing off! [10:28] thank you [10:28] and Bluekuja and blondefriend's of course [10:28] hehe [10:29] comments? [10:29] like the layout?? [10:29] i'll still give it an edit before the end of the weekend [10:29] ok [10:29] of the pamphlet, or the page? [10:29] excellent - i would really appreciate that [10:29] the pamphlet [10:29] the pamphlet is simple, but i like it that way. [10:30] cbx33, im back :) [10:30] it gives just enough information to get people interested [10:30] hey jon [10:30] I mean the ultimate intention is to get this thing printed [10:30] ;) [10:30] and to come to the website to view more information [10:30] Bluekuja, head over to the page [10:30] I've been busy [10:30] nice. [10:30] hi Bluekuja [10:30] let me see [10:30] highvoltage, think canonical would be willing to give it some backing? [10:30] yeah Bluekuja, look at the schooladvocacy page! [10:30] cbx33: even if they don't, i'm sure we can sort some funding out for it [10:31] that would be awesome [10:31] janew and i can do a edubuntu-cake fundraiser :) [10:31] I'll wait a few more days till most of the content is at least present in some form [10:31] very nice [10:31] very very nice [10:31] then we'll contact Canonical [10:31] highvoltage, who would you recommend speaking to [10:32] cbx33: Jane [10:32] ok [10:32] I'll talk to Jane next time I see her [10:32] cbx33: although edubuntu doesn't officially have a budget at this stage :/ [10:32] but i suggest you contact her anyway, go through the channels and all [10:32] no, but Canonical does [10:32] sure about that? [10:32] my hope is they will see that getting people started on edubuntu wil lead to them using ubuntu later in life :p [10:33] if it had one, Jane would manage it :) [10:33] heheh [10:33] how do the shipit cd's get funded? [10:33] just out of interest [10:33] shipit cd's are funded by canonical. [10:34] note that there isn't edubuntu shipit cd's (not yet, anyway) === cbx33 smiles....there is hope [10:34] i thought there were going to be this time round? [10:34] yeah. that's the rumour ;) === cbx33 makes a note to revise the docs.... [10:34] :p [10:34] yep pete [10:34] Bluekuja, you like the layouts I mocked up? [10:34] im revising it [10:34] excellent [10:34] yes [10:34] really nice [10:35] highvoltage, can you think of anymore sections? [10:35] cbx33: what did you use to make the pamphlet? [10:35] scribus believe it or not :p [10:35] heh [10:35] first time I've used it :p [10:35] had to compile from source [10:35] 1.2 is crap [10:35] 1.3.3.1 is useable [10:35] well considering i set myself 15 minutes to learn [10:35] just off the top of my head... perhaps mention the live cd? and that they can 'try before they buy'? [10:36] already done [10:36] ok [10:36] I'd like to try Edubuntu, but I am a little worried it will affect my computer? [10:36] ah, right. how did i miss that... [10:36] cos there are so many bloody sections :p [10:36] will be even bigger once the individual app descriptions are done [10:37] I was hoping blondefriend was going to start on those today [10:37] I'll get cracking on a few on monday [10:37] pete [10:37] Bluekuja, [10:37]