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fatejudgerkimo: do you have a laptop?12:05
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kimofatejudger: yes12:06
kimoand I move between networks :)12:06
fatejudgeryeah, isn't it great?12:07
fatejudgerit's so easy to use12:07
kimoI dont know how to use it !12:07
fatejudgerno more wireless configuration hassles12:07
kimoIt's just disabled here12:07
fatejudgerok well12:07
fatejudgeryou probably have stuff in your network/interfaces file12:07
fatejudgerwhich is located in12:07
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fatejudger"/etc/network/interfaces"12:07
kimoshould I delete it ?12:08
fatejudgeryou need to comment out or erase everything it in except the loopback stuff12:08
fatejudgermake sure to keep the loopback stuff12:08
fatejudger!networkmanager12:08
ubotuit has been said that networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto12:08
fatejudgerit should tell you there12:08
fatejudgerin the wiki12:08
kimogreat .. thnx12:08
fatejudgeryeah12:08
fatejudgernp12:08
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shawn_workdownloaded, it, KDapper time12:13
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krenxis there a cmd to see whats using the sound device ?12:24
crimsunlsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*12:25
krenxk thx12:25
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fatejudgercrimsun: I guess I missed out on the sound card fix, huh12:25
crimsunfatejudger: if and when upstream reworks it.12:25
krenxlsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev12:26
krenx      Output information may be incomplete.12:26
fatejudgercrimsun: they won't until Edgy12:26
crimsunI'm not going over jcdutton's or takashi's or jaroslav's head on that.12:26
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fatejudgercrimsun: it's already in beta, I doubt there's much they could do anyway12:26
crimsunfatejudger: err, who are you referring to?12:26
fatejudgercrimsun: the people that fix the audio problems12:26
crimsunfatejudger: upstream or ubuntu?12:27
fatejudgercrimsun: I have no idea what the problem is or who fixes it12:27
fatejudgercrimsun: I'm just making a general statement12:27
crimsunfatejudger: ok, then you'll need to see what I wrote above...12:27
crimsunfatejudger: (seeing how I'm largely the person who triages and pushes those fixes in)12:28
fatejudgercrimsun: you said you weren't going to go over someone's head on that12:28
crimsunfatejudger: yes, jcdutton hasn't had the time or resources to look at it, and I trust his fixes12:28
fatejudgerI figured as much12:29
fatejudgerwhich is why I said that it probably won't get in until Edgy when they ditch the current framework12:29
fatejudgerby then it won't matter because I'm gonna be using a different sound card12:29
fatejudgerheh12:29
crimsunthat's not necessarily true; it depends whether takashi finds an audigy12:29
fatejudgercrimsun: I thought it was a problem with just the usb models12:30
crimsunthis kind of stuff is insanely difficult to debug remotely.12:30
crimsunfatejudger: how do you debug without the hardware? :)12:30
fatejudgertrue12:30
fatejudgerso is this an ubuntu-only problem?12:31
fatejudgerI would have thought the people that run the associated projects would have the means to fix something like this12:31
crimsunno, this is an alsa problem12:31
fatejudgerso because alsa hasn't released a fix, you guys have to fix it yourselves?12:32
crimsunthat's pretty extreme, but if it were that critical, yes.12:32
crimsunjust like I had to do for emu10k1 recently.12:32
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fatejudgerdo you guys upload the patches back to ALSA svn?12:32
crimsuns/svn/hg/, and yes12:33
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WhyMModern heroes12:33
fatejudgerlol12:33
fatejudgersound is a pain in the ass12:33
fatejudgerand probably the biggest hurdle for linux to overcome, IMO12:33
fatejudgernothing seems to work right12:33
crimsunheh, you don't have to tell me. I spend 20-30 hours per week on it.12:34
WhyMfatejudger: It's not the usual way...12:34
HymnToLifefatejudger> it works perfectly well for most people12:34
fatejudgerit seems very hacked up12:34
HymnToLifetry WiFi, THAT's a PITA12:34
fatejudgerespecially on the xine end12:34
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fatejudgereven though it works great on my laptop12:34
crimsunxine? heh, xine's arguably got the best alsa support12:34
fatejudgersound related things end up crashing all the time12:34
fatejudgerstreaming video or audio through Konqueror works about 3/4ths of the time12:35
fatejudgerit's like the exceptions aren't being handled in ALSA and get passed back on up to the OS, which terminates all the applications associated with the error12:36
crimsunhuh?12:36
crimsunalsa shouldn't be handling application errors12:36
fatejudgerof course not12:36
fatejudgerbut it should be handling its own exceptions12:36
fatejudgeras should xine12:36
fatejudgerbut it doesn't12:36
crimsunuh12:36
fatejudgerand other related apps end up crashing because of it12:36
crimsundo you have actual backtraces for this stuff?12:36
fatejudgerhave you ever tried streaming content through Konqueror?12:37
fatejudgerno, I don't12:37
crimsunof course, and it works in my cases. I need viable backtraces to do any useful debugging.12:37
fatejudgerI should though12:37
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fatejudgerit's hit and miss12:37
fatejudgerI think it has to do with the codecs12:37
crimsungah. codecs have nothing to do with alsa!12:37
fatejudgerif xine can't play something, it just crashes12:37
fatejudgerwhich is why I just said xine12:37
crimsunif you have actual backtraces from alsa-lib, I need to see tham12:38
crimsunthem^12:38
fatejudgerit's difficult to get because you end up getting the backtraces from Konqueror, if anything12:38
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fatejudgerthat's if you took the time to make sure it would collect the backtrace it if did crash when you start Konqueror12:39
fatejudgerwhat it really means is finding something that crashes Konqueror and then getting that URL12:39
fatejudgersticking it in something like Kaffeine12:39
fatejudgerand getting the backtrace there12:39
crimsunwell I certainly hope that's being done, because it's pretty darned tootin useless to me to read about vague "alsa complaints" with absolutely no backtrace [and they end up being app errors quite often]  ;-)12:40
fatejudgerI doubt it has anything to do with Konqueror12:40
WhyMfile:///home/ym/il duomo.jpg12:40
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WhyMsorry12:41
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fatejudgerwell this isn't good12:43
fatejudgerI just installed beta 2 and now I can't get any sound12:43
fatejudgernot even an error12:44
crimsunyou know the drill.12:44
Codemasterare there any really nice GRUB editing GUI programs for KDE? I know there is the GNOME System Tools for GNOME which contain something like this, but I am unsure of an alternative for KDE12:44
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fatejudgercrimsun: I going to restart before I file any bugs or do anything bug related12:45
Kadranhi, i want to ask a question about which kubuntu to install, i am downloading 5.10 from kubuntu site but i want to know is it better to use 6.06?12:46
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crimsunyes, please test 6.06 beta 212:47
Kadrancrimsun: where can i download it?12:47
saaidaGuys i need help i need to get back to kubuntu, i started to hate my xp :*12:48
robotgeekKadran: see /topic12:48
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Kadranrobotgeek: thanks12:48
WhyMcrimsun: could you give us a link to a proper procedure to submit bug reports for this beta please?12:48
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fatejudgerwell I figured out what was wrong12:49
crimsunWhyM: file bugs in Malone, per usual12:49
fatejudgerand I'm not going to admit what it was either12:49
fatejudgerlet's just call it a stupid user error12:49
crimsunfatejudger: that's good enough.12:50
crimsunWhyM: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug12:50
fatejudgerI'll see if I can't find some of those websites that crash xine12:50
WhyMcrimsun: thanks12:50
saaidaToday i tried to remove some packages from kubuntu. it seems that i mistakebly removed the Kde Desktop enviroment. so nex boot it booted and came direct to the Terminal console. i did a reinstall ( even reformated the partitions ) and amazingly the same thing still .12:50
fatejudgersaaida: you didn't format them12:51
saaidai deleted the linux partitions.12:51
saaidaand re partitioned12:52
fatejudgersaaida: well let me ask you this, does it make any sense that after reinstalling you get the exact same error you had before?12:52
saaidafatejudger : well i didn't format partition number 1 ( xp partition ) maybe the boot info was there and from the first installation the desktop still disabled12:53
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fatejudgersaaida: no, it wasn't12:53
fatejudgersaaida: you didn't format the partitions12:54
fatejudgersaaida: that's what happened12:54
Kadrani want to know which one to get the install or live cd?12:54
fatejudgersaaida: do you know what Occam's razor is?12:54
saaidano12:54
fatejudgersaaida: it basically states that the simplest explanation is the most likely12:55
WhyMKadran: Live install might crash your hdd... you should go with the install version12:55
saaida:)12:55
fatejudgersaaida: which is exactly the predicament we have here12:55
Codemasterare there any really nice GRUB editing GUI programs for KDE? I know there is the GNOME System Tools for GNOME which contain something like this, but I am unsure of an alternative for KDE12:55
KadranWhyM: thanks12:55
fatejudgerCodemaster: we heard you the first time12:55
fatejudgerCodemaster: maybe you ought to google it?12:55
saaidafatejudger : So this mean simpliest solution should be tried ?12:56
fatejudgersaaida: it means you format your partitions next time12:56
saaidafatejudger : so now i need to re install ?12:56
fatejudgerI doubt it12:56
fatejudgeryou can install kde again12:56
fatejudgerjust sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:57
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Codemasterfatejudger: I did12:57
Codemasterfatejudger: otherwise i wouldn't be here12:57
fatejudgerCodemaster: well I don't know of any, what exactly do you need to edit?12:57
fatejudgerCodemaster: and why can't you do it in the CLI?12:57
saaidafatejudger : maybe i try to run it first since i did reinstall ?12:57
saaidai mean run it from terminal ?12:58
Codemasteri don't exactly enjoy modifying the file by hand12:58
fatejudgersaaida: yes, run that command from the terminal12:58
fatejudgerCodemaster: and why do you need to modify it in the first place?12:58
Codemasterfatejudger: to add in my WinXP boot option12:58
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saaidafatejudger : what is the command to run KDe desktop ?01:00
fatejudgerwell this is quite something, I can play everything EXCEPT mp3s01:00
WhyMsame for me01:00
fatejudgerwell I'm switching to gstreamer01:02
fatejudgerthis is total crap01:03
fatejudgerI've never had such a problem with Xine01:03
saaidafatejudger : what is the command to run KDe desktop please01:03
fatejudgerlol, I installed gstreamer and now xine works01:03
fatejudgermust have installed some codec01:03
fatejudgersaaida: sudo kdm01:04
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krenxerr:wave:DSDB_MapBuffer Could not map sound device for direct access (Input/output error) <- when trying to launch a game from wine, anyone ?01:04
krenx:)01:04
saaidaok Thanx hopefully next time i enter this channel from linux01:04
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saaidaDamn01:11
saaidaKde is installed01:11
saaidaand running the command : sudo kdm didn't bring anything01:11
myndmelderHas anyone used BeeWee's automatiKs in here?01:11
fatejudgersaaida: should have01:12
fatejudgersaaida: what about startx01:12
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krenx!chroot01:12
ubotumethinks chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457501:12
saaidawhat is startx ?01:12
fatejudgeranother command01:12
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fatejudgeryou aren't supposed to use it though01:12
saaida:)01:12
fatejudgerat least the way Kubuntu is configured01:12
fatejudgerbut it will launch X01:12
charwoodI've been trying to figure out the problem here for several hours.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  When I run glxgears I get the error "couldn't find RGB GLX visual".01:12
charwoodThis happens with all opengl programs that I run.01:13
saaidaso i should try start kdm ?01:13
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saaidaso i should try 'start kdm' ?01:14
fatejudgerno01:14
fatejudgeryou should try "startx"01:14
fatejudgerI don't understand why sudo kdm doesn't work01:14
fatejudgerdoes it give any error?01:14
saaidano01:14
saaidasimply new line in the terminal01:15
saaidamaybe it can be cause i didn't creat a username ?01:16
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myndmelderHas anyone used BeeWee's automatiKs in here? I'm having trouble installing it...01:16
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fatejudgersaaida: it's really difficult to diagnose the problems remotely01:19
fatejudgersaaida: maybe you ought to just reinstall01:19
fatejudgersaaida: just make sure you format this time01:19
saaidafatejudger : i c01:20
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saaidaohh and btw i can change later on from kde to another desktop enviroments , right ?01:20
biovoreyup01:21
biovoreyou can install multipule enviroments at the same time too01:21
fatejudgersaaida: yeah, but who'd want to :P01:21
saaidafatejudger : me . i have slow comp. and there lighter desktop enviroments i can use01:22
h3sp4wnthats why I won't use knetworkmanager (installs half of gnome with it)01:23
fatejudgerh3sp4wn: I noticed that01:23
fatejudgerh3sp4wn: it should have to though, they just have the packages messed up01:23
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fatejudgerh3sp4wn: loading two toolkits at boot sucks01:23
jeeklHi, I cant configure Konsole anymore. it tells me i'm missing kcm_konsole.la? I don't know when this occured, I have done numerous updates since I last configured konsole.01:23
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fatejudgerh3sp4wn: I installed network-manager anyway because the benefits outweighed the disadvantages01:24
fatejudger!samba01:26
ubotusamba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html01:26
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earl_any dapper/ATI users on who could help me with setting up fglrx?01:28
eosynhmm does anyone know the program(s) required for k3b to create audio cds?01:29
theripperyou just want to install the ati drivers or what?01:29
earl_eosyn, i believe that would be cdrdao01:29
earl_don't quote me though01:30
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earl_i followed one of the howtos01:30
earl_and currently i can't get DRI to work01:30
earl_i'm getting the following message in xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1304201:30
eosynyea cdrdao is the writer software, that works fine but its the process of creating cdaudio (cda) out of mp3s and then burning them to the cd01:31
theripper!ati01:31
ubotuI heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358901:31
jeeklCan anyone help me with my missing kcm_konsole.la?01:31
theripperim new myself , i used the !ati first link to install ati driver and it worked well01:32
earl_i'm on dapper, though01:33
theripperme too01:33
charwoodearl_: It theoretically works the same on Dapper.01:33
earl_also, i'm pretty sure that'll land me with an extremely old driver...01:33
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charwoodearl: apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx01:34
charwoodearl_: It will get you the one for Dapper if your source repository is set up that way (it is by default)01:34
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earl_allright, i'll give it a shot...01:34
eosynlooks like a needed k3b2-mp3 installed01:35
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earl_i'm on an AMD Athlon XP, so my $arch is k7 right?01:38
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charwoodearl_: Correct01:39
earl_this is odd, i never installed this package before, and i'm pretty sure it wasn't even there last time i saw taht wiki page....01:40
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earl_!ati01:52
ubotuI heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358901:52
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mo0se!firefox01:55
mo0se!firefox1.501:56
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:56
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NoobSauceI'm using kde, but somehow I ended up with a gnome desktop... anyone have ideas on how to fix this?01:58
NoobSaucethe taskbar, window decorations etc... are still kde, but the desktop is gnome for some reason...01:58
WhyMUhhh... so what do you mean by desktop?02:00
mo0sewhat the heck...02:00
NoobSauceit's just the wallpaper part02:00
mo0sewhen i put in sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.2.tar.gz02:00
mo0seis it suppose to get crazy?02:00
NoobSaucelike when I right click on the desktop, it gives gnome menus and stuff02:00
NoobSaucenot to mention gnome icons and stuff02:00
mo0sejesus...02:00
NoobSauceit's not that bad I guess, but when I run karamba, all the icons get in the way of stuff which is really annoying02:01
NoobSauceand you can't turn icons off in gnome's desktop menu02:01
NoobSauceI've encountered this problem on other systems aswell, so it's not unique to my machine02:02
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earl_man, i think i've been using the wrong kernel for a really long time02:04
earl_i've been running a 386 kernel >,<02:04
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jeeklI cant configure Konsole anymore. it tells me i'm missing kcm_konsole.la? I don't know when this occured, I have done numerous updates since I last configured konsole. Can someone help me?02:05
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stodgeHi - how do I know if a WMV file is encoded with DRM? I seem to be unable to play WMV videos with kaffeine02:08
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NoobSaucewhy do you have wmv DRM files? just download whatever file that is off a p2p network without the DRM02:09
stodgeNo02:09
NoobSauceyou paid for it presumably, so it's ok02:09
stodgeI downloaded a demo of a 3d engine but I can't play it02:09
NoobSauceoh :P02:10
stodgeI dont do that illegal video download crap02:10
stodge:)02:10
NoobSaucewell if you paid for it, it's not illegal...02:10
stodgeI installed the codecs as explained on the wiki02:10
stodgeBut I still can't play wmvs02:11
stodgeThis is kubuntu breezy02:11
tarmathwmv are not playable dude02:11
tarmaththeres no linux codec for them02:11
stodgeoh02:11
stodgeI thought there was02:11
tarmathwell there is for wmv version 1 and 202:11
tarmathbut not 302:12
stodgeoh02:12
tarmathwhich is what most wmv vids are encoded in nowadays02:12
tarmaththere's a few projects that will come up with a codec for it02:12
tarmathbut it's not there yet02:12
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stodgeWell that sucks02:14
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stodge:(02:14
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tarmathhmm02:18
tarmathim looking it up and it seems that they can be played with xine and mplayer using windows codecs..02:18
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HymnToLifetarmath> not all of them can02:19
tarmathnot all of them?02:20
tarmathhmm im finding allot of references about wmv3 support through windows codecs (only for x86)02:21
tarmathoh02:22
tarmathi didnt have the w32codecs package installed... lets see02:22
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tarmathwhoa nice it plays!02:26
tarmathhrm I shouldve tried that sooner02:27
WhyMIs there any way to make Xine handle smb:// files?02:31
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stodgeUgly fonts in mplayer02:32
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__mikemhello02:33
tarmathWhyM: the sine engine itself I doubt it, but maybe a kde frontend could do it?02:34
stodgeWow the demo video for crytek 2 engine is incredible02:35
stodgePLays with mplayer02:35
WhyMI can view/play a video or an ogg/mp3 file over my lan...  :'(02:35
WhyMcan't02:35
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__mikemwhats wrong myndmelder, did you accidently type rm -fr /02:37
__mikemlol02:37
myndmelderAnyone know why BeeWee's automatks freezes up... As soon as it decides to start?!?02:38
myndmelderAnd no _mikem not yet02:38
__mikemlol ok02:38
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myndmelderStupind thing says starting script, and them just sits there with it's thumb up its ass and doesn't do squat... It doesn't even freeze...02:39
tarheelcould someone give me web sites for help on learning kubuntu02:39
__mikem!language02:39
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.02:39
myndmelderVery well...02:40
myndmelderMy appologies02:40
crimsuntarheel: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C/index.html02:40
__mikemits alright, hes just an irc bot02:41
myndmelderOh...02:41
myndmelderThat isn't even BIG Bad word... LOL02:41
myndmelderAnyways... Anyone got any ideas...02:41
__mikemyou could try running dpkg-reconfigure on the package, that should restore the setup to an error free state02:42
myndmelderThe original package is long gone, and there hasn't been anything on this computer. It is a fresh install...02:43
__mikemthat aint good02:44
myndmelderAs I said... It just sits there02:44
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structgreetings02:46
structhave a problem upgrading to dapper02:46
structlibgl1-mesa02:46
structanyone know how to fix?02:46
chatboy!easysources02:47
ubotuchatboy: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:47
__mikem!easysource02:47
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:47
chatboythanks __mikem02:47
__mikemyw02:48
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chatboy!nvu03:08
ubotuhmm... nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.03:08
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Kadranhi all03:13
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theripperhi03:38
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SpecialBuddydoes anyone else have a problem turning wireless off03:46
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_darksoul!dapper03:47
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)03:47
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mo0sehow do i make firefox the default browser?04:04
Search4Lancerhere's a thought: why the heck can't I play a DVD in Kaffeine?04:06
mo0sei guess you gotta install something that'll let you...04:06
mo0setry typing dvd in adept or something...04:06
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noiesmo!dvd04:06
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)04:06
Search4Lanceryeah got it working now...04:07
mo0se!firefox1.504:07
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:07
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Search4Lancerapparently I had to restart Kaffeine twice to get it going04:10
Search4Lancerafter following the instructions in RestrictedFormats04:10
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zoohouseKubuntu is going to have a tool that will automaticly update it to Kubuntu 6.05 right?04:20
steveklHow do I know which version of kubuntu I have?04:20
zoohousestevekl: stevekl press ALT + F2 and type help04:22
steveklSays I got 6.0604:23
stevekldoes that sound right for dapper04:23
zoohousestevekl: you have the new beta ver. then04:23
steveklok04:24
steveklGood!04:24
zoohouseIts still beta so you might run into a bug ;)04:24
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zoohouseok time to play a little Entropia Universe :D04:25
visik7anyone has try to upgrade breezy to dapper beta ?04:25
visik7apt wants to remove half of kde packages04:25
steveklvisik7: I've done it04:26
visik7and ?04:26
steveklWell I didn't encounter any big problems04:26
steveklhowever04:26
steveklI did find that dapper needs alot more disk space than breezy did04:26
stevekl But other than that there were no problems04:27
steveklI had two machines with 5 gig root partitions and that just wasn't enough for dapper04:28
visik7maybe on clean install would be different04:28
tarmathmaybe some older packages are still left?04:29
tarmath5 gigs sounds way too much04:29
steveklWell04:29
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tarmathhwo much was breezy after a clean install, a little more than 3 ?04:30
steveklNow that I look at it04:30
steveklDapper is only taking up 3 gigs04:30
steveklSo, I guess I don't know what i'm talking about :p04:30
tarmathlol ok04:30
steveklI'm man enough to admit that04:30
steveklHowever I DO remember that when I dist-upgraded from breezy, I ran out of space on my 5 gig root parition04:31
steveklwhy? I dunno04:31
visik7sudo aptitude dist-upgrade04:31
tarmathporn04:31
visik71060 packages upgraded, 101 newly installed, 238 to remove and 6 not upgraded.04:31
visik723804:31
steveklnaw, I keep all my "personal files" on /home and on an external hard drive04:31
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steveklUnless linux is putting porn in some weird place like /var/lib/misc/ or something04:32
tarmaththe guy who hacked you box's porn?04:32
steveklCurses!04:32
tarmathyour connection feels slow lately doesnt it04:33
visik7http://pastebin.com/688080 here it is what it wants to do04:33
steveklvisik7: I think that looks ok but get a second opinion, i've been known to be dumb04:33
visik7second option ?04:34
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visik7forgot about -s -y is just to grep and grab the output for pastebin04:34
tarmathit couldnt possibly be bad man04:34
stevekl3~er04:34
steveklsecond opinion04:34
krenx!wine04:35
steveklWait I did say opinion, you're trying to mess me up04:35
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visik7sorry04:35
steveklhehe04:35
steveklsokay04:36
visik7probably this upgrade problems are caused by my folkloristic sources.list04:36
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steveklDamnit, I can't wake on lan my machine04:38
steveklI got the BIOS set to do it too04:38
stevekland I got the right MAC address04:38
steveklhm.04:38
steveklI guess that can't be a linux problem though04:39
tarmathyou got that right04:39
visik7linux problem ? WON works regardless on the OS u are using04:40
steveklYeah I realize that but I need to tell SOMEONE that i'm frustrated04:40
steveklAbit makes some shifty motherboards04:41
kkathmanevenin all :)04:42
stevekly hello thar04:42
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_darksoul!dapper04:42
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)04:42
_darksoulhttp://www.zimmertech.com/images/kubuntu_full.jpg - theres a app on there like conky, any ideas on what it is04:50
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myndmelderCan anyone walk me through instalation of alltray, or point to a website? Please?05:06
krenx!alltray05:07
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, krenx05:07
krenxaha :P05:07
myndmelderIt is a place to start...05:08
myndmelderI've tried ubuntu forums and the kubuntu forums... No dice.05:08
krenxwish i could help.05:08
robotgeekmyndmelder: download it from alltray.sf.net05:08
robotgeekmyndmelder: are you on breezy/dapper?05:09
krenx!nvidia05:10
ubotuPlease read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:10
krenxWhats the url for the 4 different methods of installing nvidia-drivers ?05:11
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myndmelderbreezy05:14
myndmelderNo graphic card...05:14
robotgeekmyndmelder: meaning?05:15
robotgeekmyndmelder: they do have a ubuntu deb on the download page05:15
myndmeldermeaning I'm using onboard graphics.05:15
myndmelderok05:16
myndmelderlet me try again...05:16
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robotgeekmyndmelder: http://alltray.sourceforge.net/downloads.html has a ubuntu deb05:16
myndmelderyeah thanks...05:16
myndmelderI'm giving that a shot05:17
robotgeekrob: meet Pyre05:17
rob?05:17
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robotgeekrob: that's the bot05:17
myndmelder...grrr05:17
myndmelderI'm on a wild goose chase with alltray... Now that I have seen what it is, that isn't the problem.05:18
myndmelderI'm still trying to get automatiks to work (not automatix). It is still acting like a bump on a log.05:19
robotgeekmyndmelder: /j #easyubuntu05:20
myndmelderkk05:20
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[Relic] if ark doesn't want to cooperatewhat's the next best thing to use for tgz file extraction?05:31
robotgeek[Relic] : tar -zxf foo.tgz05:32
[Relic] where does the put it in this dir go?  tar -zxf foo.tgz /home/thisiswhereitgoes  ?05:34
robotgeek[Relic] : it is supposed to extract in the current dir if you did what i asked you to05:35
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[Relic] I don't want to extract it in the current dir, that messes up my desktop too much :)05:35
[Relic] can always move it  :)05:36
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_sEBAs_hola05:40
_sEBAs_alguien que hable espaol?05:41
robotgeek!es05:41
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:41
_sEBAs_jaja05:41
_sEBAs_haha, thats good man05:41
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_sEBAs_!es06:01
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:01
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LeeJunFan!ogg06:05
ubotuLeeJunFan: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:05
robotgeek!freecodecs06:06
uboturobotgeek: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:06
robotgeekLeeJunFan: wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeCodecs06:07
LeeJunFanrobotgeek: yeah, I know. It was supposed to be for someone else. :)06:07
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robotgeekLeeJunFan: hmm, okay06:08
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_sEBAs_somebody knows how to fix kcm_konsole.la ??06:09
_sEBAs_becouse after installing KDE 2.5 in a KUbuntu 10.5 he smoke06:10
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LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: you try apt-get -f install ?06:10
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: sounds like perhaps it just didn't get installed with new version.06:11
_sEBAs_what does apt-get -f install ???06:11
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: attempts to fix broken packages and deps.06:12
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: maybe it formats your HD, I can't remember really - just do it. :p06:12
_sEBAs_oohh, ok06:12
_sEBAs_hahah06:12
_sEBAs_funy06:12
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_sEBAs_:D06:12
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_sEBAs_thanxs06:12
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LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: hope it works. also when you upgrade kde did you apt-get dist-upgrade or just upgrade? often with upgrading kde you should do dist-upgrade to get all the new packages that need installed.06:13
_sEBAs_i did apt-get dist-upgrade06:14
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_sEBAs_doesn't work, :(06:16
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LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: how about apt-get install konsole06:17
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_sEBAs_i already did that06:17
_sEBAs_:P06:17
bitmakkeris someone has already tried to install darknet?06:18
LeeJunFanbitmakker: yeah, SBC did that the other day in 5 states.06:18
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bitmakkercoz it won't turn on :s06:19
bitmakkerdidn't want :s06:20
_sEBAs_when you do aptitude dist-upgrade for expemple, and it install the new kde 3.5.2, you have to do that with out KDE running?06:20
bitmakkerexuce my poor englist :d06:20
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: apt-get install --reinstall konsole06:20
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: I've always done it with kde running. But of course you generally have to log out, switch to console and restart kdm06:20
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ParkotronHas anybody tried out InitNG? If so I'm wondering what kind of speed increases they saw?06:21
LeeJunFanbitmakker: that explains why you didn't get my joke about SBC. SBC is a huge telco here that had 200,000 dedicated lines and DSL out here the other day.06:21
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LeeJunFanin the USA. But no, I've never used darknet.06:21
_sEBAs_becouse when i did the upgrade i have running kopete that now it doesn't work and konsole ofcourse06:22
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: what if you just try running apt-get dist-upgrade again?06:22
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: sometimes it doesn't get everythign on the first pass.06:22
bitmakkerok thanks :D06:22
bitmakkeri'm in france06:23
bitmakkerthanks for the answer :)06:23
_sEBAs_let me see06:23
_sEBAs_root@maquina:/home/jorge# apt-get dist-upgrade06:27
_sEBAs_Lendo Lista de Pacotes... Pronto06:27
_sEBAs_Construindo rvore de Dependncias... Pronto06:27
_sEBAs_Calculando Atualizao... Pronto06:27
_sEBAs_0 pacotes atualizados, 0 pacotes novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos e 0 no atualizados.06:27
_sEBAs_root@maquina:/home/jorge#06:27
_sEBAs_:S06:27
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_sEBAs_take a look on these http://www.mail-archive.com/kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg04851.html06:27
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: dammit, what'd you do to that thing? :)06:27
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: problem is I'm running dapper here so perhaps the lib isn't in the same package, on here it's in "konsole"06:28
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_sEBAs_hehe06:29
_sEBAs_xD06:29
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: what if you run dpkg -S kcm_konsole.la06:29
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LeeJunFanif it tells you a package then the file is missing, otherwize the whole package never got installed.06:30
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_sEBAs_didn't find it06:31
_sEBAs_is missing, :P06:31
_sEBAs_what in the heal happends?06:32
_sEBAs_hehe06:32
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: yeah, you're missing a lib package.06:32
_sEBAs_it's no way that i can recover?06:33
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: it should be in the konsole package.06:33
_sEBAs_yes, thats what i think06:33
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: I just ssh'ed to a remote breezy and checked.06:33
_sEBAs_thot06:33
LeeJunFangive the apt-get install --reinstall konsole a shot.06:34
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_sEBAs_nothing06:35
_sEBAs_shit :s06:35
_sEBAs_i thinking in reinstall all06:36
_sEBAs_and do it right06:36
LeeJunFan_sEBAs_: it's odd. I'm not sure what's up there. Unless Riddell compiled those differently and that lib is not in the konsole package but in a separate libs package.06:37
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krenxcould anyone help me installing my second hdd? its fat32 200gb06:37
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_sEBAs_it is sata?06:39
krenxno06:39
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LeeJunFanI'm off to bed. gnight.06:39
_sEBAs_mm, so what it's the problema?06:39
_sEBAs_good night06:39
_sEBAs_:D06:39
krenxwhats the problem? I dont know how to do, ive been using linux for 3 days06:40
krenxor 2, cant remember06:40
_sEBAs_ahhh, sorry06:40
_sEBAs_:D06:40
_sEBAs_well, firts, wath's distro you have?06:41
krenxkubuntu06:41
_sEBAs_ok06:41
_sEBAs_and he doesn't show in Desktop?06:42
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krenxno06:42
_sEBAs_ok, you have to mount it06:43
_sEBAs_wait06:43
krenx!mount06:43
ubotumount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f06:43
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_sEBAs_do these, did you see the system configure in de KDE menu?06:44
_sEBAs_click it06:44
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krenx_sEBAs_: im trying to follow that howto06:45
_sEBAs_then click on the disk & filesystem06:46
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_sEBAs_ok, but these is more easy :D06:46
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krenxmaybe, but im learning more if im installing it with help of the howto06:47
_sEBAs_yes :D06:48
_sEBAs_it's true06:48
_sEBAs_:D06:48
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_sEBAs_i'm here06:57
Search4LancerI can not get Kalarm to play a song file06:57
_sEBAs_what you need?06:57
_sEBAs_what format is that song file?06:58
Search4Lancermp306:58
Search4Lancerwhich I have codecs for06:59
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Search4LanceramaroK and Kaffeine play them all fine06:59
_sEBAs_mm, did you reproduce mp3 already?06:59
Search4Lancerdid I what now?06:59
_sEBAs_did you install the codecs and all that?07:00
Search4Lanceryes07:00
Search4Lancerlike I said, plays fine in anything else07:00
_sEBAs_but y kalarm no?07:00
Search4Lancerthat's what I'm asking07:00
_sEBAs_yes, excuse me english07:01
_sEBAs_it gives you an error or something?07:01
Search4Lancernope07:01
Search4Lancerjust doesn't make any sound07:01
_sEBAs_just not playng07:01
_sEBAs_ok07:02
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_sEBAs_try with an other format, just for see what is it07:02
Search4Lancerhmm.... .wav's work.....07:03
_sEBAs_it works?07:03
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_sEBAs_ok07:03
Search4Lancerall I've really got is a clip of George Bush saying "Read my lips" :-D Don't know if I want to wake up to that over and over again!07:04
_sEBAs_hahahha07:05
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vinboyhow do I set firefox as my default browser?07:17
vinboyinstead of konqueror07:17
naliothvinboy: right click on your html files > properties > always open with07:17
robotgeekvinboy: system settings -> user07:17
naliothor that, lol07:18
robotgeeknalioth: i think i should have a copy of the kubuntu documentation open, i can copy paste real quikc then07:19
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naliothrobotgeek: +107:19
vinboythanks guys07:19
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vinboywat is the difference between installing from install cd & from live cd?07:25
nochlive cd doesnt install ubuntu onyour computer07:27
nochit'lll just run some apps from the CD07:27
robotgeekvinboy: install cd has a text based installer , live cd in dapper has a gui based installer07:27
noch^^ what he said07:27
robotgeekvinboy: so, you can install kubuntu if you like it07:27
naliothnoch: the dapper live cd DOES install07:28
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vinboyrobotgeek: the installation result is the same?07:30
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Rhischi07:30
nochhow about the breezy cd?07:30
RhiscI need some help07:30
nochi never used the dapper live cd07:30
RhiscI cannot get ndiswrapper to recognize my wireless network card07:30
robotgeeknoch: not breezy, but its a new feature in dapper07:31
atiroRhisc: what does ndiswrapper -l give?07:31
robotgeekvinboy: yes result is the same07:32
vinboyrobotgeek: ic.. thanks man :)07:32
Rhiscatiro, bcmwl5a invalid driver!07:33
nochrobotgeek: ahh ok thx07:33
atiroRhisc: did you do "ndiswrapper -i <driver>.inf"?07:33
Rhiscatiro, yes07:34
Rhiscatiro,07:34
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Rhiscatiro, I have tried updating ndiswrapper but I cant get it to compile07:35
atiroRhisc: hmm...07:35
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Rhiscatiro, i am using the x64 version of kubuntu do you think that could cause any problems?07:36
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atiroRhisc: possibly... wireless is not really my strength, anyone else better at it than I care to jump in?07:36
yoshuatiro: are you using ndiswrapper?07:37
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atiroyoshu: not me, Rhisc... he's trying to use ndiswrapper for a bcmw15a and it's giving "invalid driver"07:38
yoshuoh, i used that07:38
yoshuit wouldn't work in kde though07:38
yoshuI had to use set it up in a konsole07:38
Rhischow?07:38
atiroI believe that's what he's already trying... is that right?07:39
Rhiscyeah07:39
yoshuumm... I don't remember, it was a while ago and my notebook got jacked07:39
yoshuit was pretty straight forward07:39
RhiscI installed it, and it says invalid driver07:39
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yoshuis he using his bcmw15a.inf file?07:39
Rhiscand I dont know of another version of my network cards drivers to try07:40
Rhiscyeah07:40
atiroDid you have both the .inf and .sys file? (I think those are the two you need...)07:40
RhiscI just used the .inf07:40
Rhischow do I use the .sys as well?07:40
Rhiscsame way?07:40
yoshui'll brb, do some googling07:40
atiroI'm not really sure...07:41
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Rhiscok07:41
atirodoing some googling as well... hang on07:41
Rhiscok07:41
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RhiscI couldnt find much, maybe you guys will have better luck lol07:41
atirohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2568307:42
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atiroThat thread looks promising...07:42
[nige] anyone got their lm sensors working correctly to show cpu temp?07:42
robotgeek!ndiswrapper07:42
ubotufrom memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper07:42
robotgeekalso wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs helps07:42
[nige] !sensors07:43
ubotusensors is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto07:43
Rhiscok07:43
Rhiscthanks for the links07:43
RhiscI will try the stuff in those real quick07:43
atirorobotgeek: I think his problem revolves around having a broadcom :)07:43
robotgeekatiro: i have a broadcom too, there is documentation to get it working07:44
robotgeekbut i am on dapper, and ppc , i will be useless to him07:44
atirorobotgeek: indeed, I just got one working the other day... the standard advice is apparently not doing it07:45
robotgeekatiro: why not edit the wiki :)07:45
thoreauputiccafuego has made a .deb of the Airport Extreme firmware07:46
robotgeeksweet.07:46
thoreauputicrobotgeek: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/07:47
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robotgeekvery nice, i have ideas :)07:47
thoreauputicrobotgeek: an addition to EasUbuntu (for ppc ?)07:48
atiroRhisc: did you make sure to have the .sys in the same directory when you did the install?07:48
robotgeekthoreauputic: would make a decent addition to dapper systems07:49
yoshuRhisc:07:49
thoreauputicrobotgeek: indeed07:49
yoshuRhisc: # ndiswrapper -l07:50
yoshupost what you have07:50
atiroyoshu: he already did that, it gives him "invalid driver"07:50
yoshuis he using 64, or 32?07:50
atiroyoshu: hence my guess that he didn't have the .sys in there with the .inf...07:50
atiroyoshu: 64, I believe07:50
yoshuprobably not then, is he here still?07:51
Rhisc64\07:51
Rhiscsorry07:51
RhiscI was reading through one of the guides07:51
Rhiscand it did not wokr07:51
Rhisc*work07:51
robotgeeki don't think ndiswrapper works on 6407:51
atiroRhisc: no worries... did you make sure to have the .sys there too?07:51
yoshuGo to /etc/ndiswrapper and delete the file you have manually07:51
Rhiscyes07:51
yoshuyes it works I've done it07:51
yoshuThen, in /etc/network/interfaces, you need the line07:52
yoshuiface wlan0 inet dhcp07:52
robotgeekyoshu: hmm, okay. i thought it works only on x8607:52
yoshuno, there's a wiki on it somewhere07:52
atiroyoshu: that won't help him if he doesn't have the driver working yet...07:53
yoshuI wish my notebook didn't get jacked, it would be easier to help07:53
yoshuwell he needs to delete the driver and reinstall it07:53
atirotrue... "rm /etc/ndiswrapper/*" if I recall, right?07:53
Rhischow do I open files as root?07:53
atiroerr... sudo?07:54
RhiscAnd would this be easier if I downloaded a 32bit version of dapper?07:54
robotgeekRhisc: you are on dapper?07:54
yoshusudo su will make you root07:54
Rhiscno07:54
yoshubut be carefull07:54
RhiscI am on breezy07:54
robotgeekRhisc: hmm, dapper has support for this without ndiswrapper07:55
Rhiscrobotgeek: Would you recommend upgrading?07:55
yoshuRhisc: no don't upgrade until it's released07:55
yoshuwait a month07:56
RhiscDoes dapper support broadcom chipsets out of the box?07:56
yoshuit's not dapper it's the kernel 2.6.1507:56
Rhiscoh07:56
yoshuif you install that kernel you might be able to make it work07:56
yoshubut i haven't tried07:56
atirondiswrapper should do it just fine though...07:56
yoshu* no notebook07:56
yoshuRhisc, I can't find that  brodcom wireless wiki07:57
yoshufound this http://kanotix.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-10902-highlight-broadcom.html07:57
robotgeekhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 Rhisc07:58
Rhiscrobotgeek,: thanks :D07:59
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mrkev1n!liblame-dev07:59
ubotumrkev1n: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:59
mrkev1nthought so08:00
mrkev1n!liblame08:00
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mrkev1n08:00
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Rhiscstill getting the invalid driver error08:02
yoshugotta go late08:02
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mrkev1n!kaffeine-0.8.108:03
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mrkev1n08:03
mrkev1nhummmmm08:03
atiroRhisc: so, just to double check... you whiped out the old stuff in /etc/ndiswrapper, then did "ndiswrapper -i <file>.inf" while the .inf and .sys file were in the directory... is that right?08:03
Rhiscyes08:03
atiroRhisc: hmm... got any recommendations robotgeek? I'm out of ideas08:04
robotgeekatiro: i've never used ndiswrapper, sorry.08:04
Rhiscthis is really anoying... maybe my drivers that come on the disc arent supported...08:05
atiroRhisc: I'm not sure what else to try man...08:05
robotgeekRhisc: maybe you should get the drivers from the ndiswrapper wiki08:05
atiroRhisc: if that doesn't work, you might consider just upgrading your kernel and using the native drivers08:05
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Rhiscthe driver download links in the wiki are dead08:08
Rhiscjust my luck08:08
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atiroRhisc: it looks like somebody put them up for download on this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6968008:10
Rhiscthanks08:11
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[nige] !acpi08:12
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [nige] 08:12
[nige] is there any way to check to see if acpi is enabled on my ubuntu bok08:14
Rhiscwoot the error is gon08:15
Rhisc*gone08:15
Rhiscit says driver is present and hardware is present!08:16
Rhiscthanks for the help atiro and robotgeek!08:16
robotgeekRhisc: awesome, good job!08:16
atiroRhisc: sweet, nice work!08:17
Rhiscok well I am gonna reboot and if all goes well, I will be talking to you guys through my wireless connection :D08:19
atiroRhisc: good luck :)08:19
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Rhisc2it works!08:26
Rhisc2I am wireless now08:26
atiroRhisc2: sweet, good work man08:26
Rhisc2such a good feeling08:27
Rhisc2lol08:27
atiroRhisc2: haha, I know what you mean :)08:27
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Rhisc2is there a way to change the login screen?08:30
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atiroRhisc2: yes... but I'm not sure how, hehe08:32
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Rhisc2lol08:33
atiroRhisc2: google "kde login manager" would be my recommendation08:35
atiroRhisc2: I gotta get some sleep, good luck though :)08:35
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talhi all08:58
talwho can to answer for my qestions?08:59
DenHi - How do I use "info" (textinfo - view command documentation) to find all the documentation pages/files about grub?  When I do "info grub", I just get the same as "man grub", and no links to the other grub pages, like for the command "grub-install" - I'm trying to find all the grub commands & documentation - how do I do that?08:59
Hobbsee!+grub09:00
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting09:00
talI can't to install driver for Riva TNT209:03
DenHobbsee: thx:)09:06
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_darksoul!dapper09:14
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)09:14
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earl_any of you guys have any success running xgl/compiz?09:15
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inkeroinenumm, little problem with breezy09:23
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inkeroinenX starts ok, but the GUI login doesn't "show" up, actually startupo stops at tty109:24
inkeroinenthe gui login is at tty7 as should but why doesn't startup stop there09:24
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inkeroinenother thing: should i upgrade to dapper from breezy ?09:26
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earl_don't upgrade to dapper yet09:26
earl_i'm havin a bit of trouble with it myself09:27
inkeroinenok09:27
dumbkiwiearl_:  no trouble here.09:27
dumbkiwiearl_: seems I'm not alone either09:27
earl_well09:27
earl_i'm probably having trouble because i'm fooling around with things09:28
earl_lol09:28
inkeroinenbut i dont get this X login problem. Why doesn't startup process stop at it, but 'bounces' back to the terminal login09:28
earl_yaeh that stuff's above me, sorry dude09:28
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talfriends! how I can to do actions as root in console?09:44
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Dental: use "sudo", or create a root account with "sudo passwd root", then log into the root account09:46
tal:(09:46
talI can't to log as root09:46
Hobbsee!+root09:47
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.09:47
Dental: did you create a root account with passwd?09:47
talDen, yes09:47
Dental: then in a user shell type "su"09:48
Dental: did that work?09:48
Hobbseesu doesnt usually work.  sudo -s does09:49
talHobbsee, Yes! It's works!09:50
talThanks09:50
Hobbseejust be careful with root09:50
talI want to install dysplay driver only09:50
talf*ck09:51
talUnable to find system utility "Id"09:52
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thoreauputictal: because it doesn't exist? Try " id " (lower case )09:58
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jpatrickunless it's Ld09:59
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talid does list10:00
taluid=0(root) gid=0(root) etc10:00
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timriGood morning/midday/evening/night. I have just given kubuntu a go and have some questions.10:14
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zenkonamibetter10:14
zenkonamihello!10:14
timriDoes anyone know of a simple way to get the 'Window' menu back in konqueror. Simpler than editing konq-kubuntu.rc by hand, that is.10:16
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Hobbseetimri: what's the "window" menu?10:17
zenkonamiDo you mean that default menu Konquerer starts with?10:18
timriHobbsee: In a 'normal' KDE install e.g. on debian, konqueror has a Window menu that lets you split your view (amongst other things).10:19
zenkonamioh10:19
Hobbseehmmm...good questoin10:19
timrizenkonami: So it's part of the menubar (last item before Help, i think)10:19
timriI found some help on http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/13865/Theres-no-Window-menu-in-my-konqueror-How-do-I-get.html10:20
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timriBut I don't like messing with these files (for all I know they get overwritten after an apt-get update).10:20
zenkonamiout of my league, I'm afraid.10:24
timrizenkonami: That makes two of us :)10:24
Hobbseetimri: they shouldnt, if you've modified them..10:24
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zenkonami=>10:24
timriHobbsee: Well, I have modified backgroundrc (for KDM) and sometimes when I do an apt-get update, I get a question if it can overwrite my version: It prevents silent updating.10:26
zenkonamican anyone recommend a good reference site for Linux terminolgy, etc...what certain files are for and so on...but in reasonably plain english?  I know a lot of it is interconnected so that gets difficult sometimes.10:26
Hobbseemine does that for a few other versions - but doesnt ask about changing kdmrc - it just leaves it.10:26
Hobbseezenkonami: hmmm...seen !cli?10:26
zenkonamifor example, I've been trying to find out what .ICEauthority is for.10:26
Hobbseethat's a good start10:27
zenkonamiI don't believe I have10:27
timrizenkonami: I feel your pain, several months ago a did not even know what a distro was !10:27
Hobbsee!cli10:27
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org10:27
Hobbseezenkonami: you can do a "cat filename" to see what's in it10:27
HobbseeICEauthority deals with logging into kde, it seems10:27
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zenkonamiI took a chance and deleted it earlier since I was having some kind of permissions issue (I think) that wasn't allowing me to get X going again (and KDE for that matter)10:28
zenkonamiwhich seems to have worked out okay10:28
Hobbseeah yep10:28
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Hobbseezenkonami: if you get that, you can remove Xauthority, and ~/.kde/*.USER as well, and it will usually work10:29
timrizenkonami: ICE is a way for apps to 'talk' to eachother I believe, somewhat like a lightweight CORBA10:29
zenkonamiKDE seems to have just rewritten it, but it got me thinking about how little I know about 99.9% of the files floating around.10:29
zenkonamiinteresting10:30
Hobbseeyeah, it rewrites it...10:30
belphi folks.  i just dual booted windoze and kubuntu but would like to update to the latest beta (better wireless support)10:30
timrizenkonami: There's an Xauthority file as well, i think10:30
Hobbseeit rewrites all of ~/.kde if it's deleted, too10:30
Hobbsee!update10:30
ubotuHobbsee: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:30
Hobbsee!upgrade10:30
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .10:30
zenkonamithanks for the links, btw10:31
belprunning gksudo cmd doesn't work.  says command not found.  i'm sure i'm doing something retarded but am not finding anything via google.10:31
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timrizenkonami: Additional tip: You can access the man(ual) pages directly from konqueror using the man:/ protocol, for example man:/dd gives help on the dd command. Shortcut for man:/ is # btw.10:33
zenkonamicool10:35
Hobbseeoh cool, didnkt now that10:35
Hobbseebelp: use kdesu instead10:35
Hobbseebelp: gksudo only works inside gnome10:36
timrizenkonami: Try man:/iceauth for example. I lik man:/apt_preferences for example. The best thing: it's just an URL, so you can bookmark it.10:36
timris/lik/like10:36
timriBRB10:36
belpah.  thanks hobbsee.  seems that all the updating links point to that one particular wiki.  i'll try that out.10:36
Hobbseebelp: same as upgrading to breezy, but replace all the bits of "hoary" with dapper10:37
Hobbseeno, wait10:37
zenkonamiAlso, anyone have any advice on learning to program in Linux?  I mean, C or C++ would be great, but all the material I keep coming across is so...dry.  Programmed a bit 10 to 15 years ago, but it's not as easy to find out how code works anymore just by hacking other code apart.  I have trouble understanding how all the different files and system calls and what-not are put together.10:37
Hobbseebelp: all the bits where the guide says hoary, put breezy, all of where it mentions breezy, stick dapper there.10:38
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zenkonamithanks, timri10:38
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zenkonamiI'm in the same boat...used to use the really easy stuff...BASIC, Pascal, COBOL, and did some machine coding, but that was on a commodore 64 =] 10:38
belpoh, i'm looking at a cmd for updating that says "gksudo update-manager -d"10:39
zenkonamifewer things to deal with and worry about when you've only got 64k10:39
belpi don't see a longer cmd string with breezy,etc in it10:39
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=== timri I'm baaaack
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Tonio_hello10:44
timribelp: Wrt your upgrade question: If I understand correctly: you want to go from 5.10 to 6.06 (breezy -> dapper), 's that right?10:44
timriTonio_: Hi there10:44
belpyes timri10:45
belpsorry, been googling :)10:45
belptrust me, i know how noobs can be a pain in the @ss10:46
timribelp: Normally, al you have to do is change your sources.list to point to the dapper repositories, then do a apt-get dist-upgrade.10:47
timribelp: can be slightly dangerous though ;)10:47
belplol great.  oh well, if it goes bad, then i could just reinstall from the beta live cd.  although, the previous beta live cd's installer was borked.10:48
belpthat seems to have been addressed with this release though.10:48
timribelp: Yeah, I tried to do a netinstall: it wouldn't even install the base system.10:48
timribelp: But now, all is well again.10:49
belpgreat.  thanks for the tips guys gonna do some poking around :)10:49
timribelp: Good luck.10:49
belpthx :up:10:50
saaidaguys. why Adept does not show me Ktorrent and Vlc ?10:52
timrisaaida: Probably, because you have not enabled the universe repositories10:52
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timrisorry: BRB10:52
saaidatimiri : how to enable it ?10:52
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timrisaaida: Sorry for the interruption: the mailman (woman actually) was at the door with my new asus a8n cm crm mobo.10:56
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Hobbseeooh fun: )10:57
timrisaaida: to add the correct repositories you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list10:57
timriHobbsee: well, yes and no: I had to refuse the parcel stupid TopAchat forgot to include the memory (2* 512 mb dual channel) sigh10:58
Hobbsee:(10:58
saaidawhere to find the updated ?10:58
saaidawhere to find the updated sources.list ?10:59
Hobbsee!repos10:59
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource10:59
Hobbseesudo apt-get update10:59
Hobbseein the opposite order10:59
Hobbseethat you asked your questions10:59
timriHobbsee: Ehhh ? ;)10:59
Hobbseebrain dead...lol11:00
timrisaaida: You have read ubotu's comment? It's very useful.11:01
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saaidaim reading now11:03
saaidai done this before . but forgot where i got the updated sources.list from :)11:04
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timrisaaida: I just posted my sources.list here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1305311:04
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timriexit11:05
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Hobbseehehe11:06
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timriDoes anyone know where kuickshow went? After the last update that package is suspiciously small11:09
shadow_Hi, How do i play wmv properly ? as it is scrambled when i do play.. i only have win32-codecs installed. Is there some other codec i should need ?11:09
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Hobbseetimri: in dapper?11:13
jpatricktimri: removed11:13
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timriAh, I see, it already was depricated/whatever in some distros. Have to use KView now11:13
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nico8481hi11:15
timrinico8481: Hi there.11:15
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FearMothI have an ubuntu 5.10 install cd. I want to install kubuntu-desktop packages, is there any way that I can remove all the ubuntu specific stuff like gnome?11:17
FearMothso it'll be like a fresh install from the kubuntu install cd.. or should I just download the kubuntu cd?11:17
timriFearMoth: apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop11:17
FearMothcool, thanks.11:19
timriFearMoth: But you might want first to try apt-get --purge remove gnome-desktop-environment11:20
timriFearMoth: It's somewhat less invasive in its removals.11:21
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vgehmm, if i press the "show desktop" button and then open some link on the desktop, the previously dropped windows jumps also up in the background of the newly opened window?11:25
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timrivge: That might be a known bug, I suggest you check bugs.kde.org11:35
timrivge: What distro/version are you on, btw?11:36
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wk2001hi, i'm trying since yesterday to install my ati-driver, the driver ran already but now it doesn't - i get only the mesa driver.. someone here who can help me?11:43
vgetimri: latest dapper, but i think i have seen it in breezy too11:44
=== timri Tip fo the day: Install kword and kspread to get thumbnail previews of office documents in konqueror
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zenkonamilinuxcommand.org ...very impressive site for newbs.  thx whoever mentioned it.  I know a lot of the stuff, but it's filling in some gaps I really knew nothing about.11:44
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timris/fo/of11:44
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timrivge: I'll take a look at bugs.kde.org11:44
vgeappreciate11:46
neoncodeI think something is wrong with my network connetion. It works fine, but I use DHCP with a router. I can connect to the router fine and the internet fine, but the router Should give IP's on 192.168.0.x but my computers local IP is "169.254.211.235"... Eh? The router says that i have a 'normal' IP but kubuntu says otherwise. which is why I think this is a kubuntu problem...11:48
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timrivge: Found a slew of bugs relating to your prob. Example: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12366811:49
UbugtuKDE bug 123668 in general "Last window opens if on "show desktop" I try to trash an item" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] 11:49
timriUbugtu: Hehe. I was first ;)11:50
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neoncodeCan anybody help?11:51
timrineoncode: Wow. I can only say: Weird problem!11:52
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neoncodetimri: Weird?11:54
doctormowhats wrong?11:54
timrineoncode: Well, that's how I describe a router giving out IP's outside its range11:55
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neoncodeHmmm. I just apt-got ethereal to see what's going on and I went to configure the eth0 capture interface. and there it lists both the IP that kubuntu thinks it is and the IP that the router thinks it is...11:56
neoncodeand I just ran the packet sniffer, most of the packets are sent to the 192.168.0.x IP... is it possible that my computer has 2 ip's?11:58
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timrineoncode: I'm way out of my depth here. I didn't thought it possible to have two IPs for one interface (barring multiple routes etc.)11:58
neoncodeand their's something else... according to ifconfig... the netmaks for my router and my computer are diffrent...11:59
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neoncodeI just guess I should be thankfull that whatever the hell is going on works... I'm gonna plug in my laptop and see what happens..12:00
timrineoncode: Two IP's is normal if you have two interfaces (e.g. wireless and fixed)12:01
neoncodeNope, just a standard ethernet interface.12:01
zenkonamitime for my sleep cycle.  thx all.  be back in the morning.12:01
neoncodeand both IP's are on eth012:01
timrineoncode: Oh crap! ;)12:01
neoncodecrap?12:01
timrivge: Just thought of something: A problem like your "show desktop" one was a regression in 3.4.1, just can't find the proper bug id, I suggest you try #kde12:03
timrineoncode: Sorry: I was getting desperate here ;)12:03
neoncodelol, it's ok. and I carn't find a CAT-5 cable for my laptop... I did have one but one end of it fell into a pot of vasalene so now it's all messy... =(12:04
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timrineoncode: Blegh I'm really trying to get that picture out of my head.12:05
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r0bok just installed a fresh version of the new dapper2 beta, when i try to run apt-update it tells me that the apt database could not be opened, due to configuration problems or something12:11
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apokryphosr0b: can you pastebin the full output?12:13
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r0bhttp://pastebin.ca/5220412:15
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apokryphosr0b: and what's the output of those two commands?12:15
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r0bcommand not found12:16
FearMothI ran sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop expecting it to remove gnome and all ubuntu related stuff, but it just removed one package, ubuntu-desktop. I just restarted gdm and it doesn't seem like anything's changed. do I need to install kubuntu-desktop first before gnome'll be removed?12:16
apokryphosr0b: apt-get update gives you "command not found"?12:17
chip42that is a meta package. it represents a collection of other packages. removing it doesn't remove those packages12:17
r0bsorry it gives me an error12:17
apokryphos....12:17
FearMothchip42: how do I remove all the other packages then?12:18
r0bhttp://pastebin.ca/5220512:18
apokryphosFearMoth: if you want to remove gnome then just remove some vital gtk or gnome lib12:18
apokryphosr0b: is synaptic/adept/any-other-apt process running?12:18
chip42FearMoth: like apokryphos said.. try to remove something fundamental to gnome and it will all be removed12:18
r0bumm not to my knowledge(mind you im a complete linux newbie)12:19
neoncodeUpdate to my little problem(scroll up): Plugged in my laptop, that gets it's adress fine...12:19
FearMothwould it be better to just get the kubuntu iso ?12:19
apokryphosr0b: well if you have no other programs running... then it isn't. If so, then you must have interrupted apt before at some vital stage or the like.12:19
apokryphosr0b: anyhow, remove that lock file and try again.12:19
apokryphosFearMoth: if you don't want any trace of non-kubuntu, then yeah, but it's not necessary at all.12:20
apokryphosFearMoth: if you removed gnome* you'd have every gnome thing there removed12:20
apokryphosr0b: oh no wait........12:20
apokryphosr0b: you're not using sudo with apt?12:20
r0b:( too late just deleted12:21
r0band no i wasnt12:21
apokryphoswell?12:21
apokryphosyou need to prefix commands with "sudo" that require root privs12:21
apokryphostype /msg ubotu sudo   .....in here12:21
r0bok just ran sudo apt-get update12:22
r0bdid a whole bunch of stuff12:22
r0btried running update again, and same error12:22
apokryphosr0b: you shouldn't really be on dapper, though, if you're not familiar with debian/ubuntu-based systems :)12:23
apokryphosit's unstable, too.12:23
apokryphosr0b: running update? What command?12:23
r0blittle update icon in my lower right hand corner12:23
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apokryphosr0b: running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is the equivalent to running that.12:24
r0bthat works12:24
r0band is now updating12:24
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r0bok next, try to install opera :P12:25
apokryphosr0b: /msg ubotu opera12:26
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r0bthanks :) i can see im going to be in here a lot :P12:28
apokryphosr0b: also good to check the wiki and the bot first :P12:29
r0bwill do :D12:29
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r0bhmm sound isnt working12:30
cow_2001beagled loads itself everytime i logon with kdm into kde after i chose "autostart every time" in kerry. this is really annoying, i don't know what to do i already tried to save the kde session with beagled killalled but it didn't work.12:31
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fjellrev1can anyone help me install Vmware..I dont know much,the only file that seems logical is "vmvare-installer.pl" this is python,no??what do I do with it? :)12:47
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r0bok i have 2 sound cards, how do i setup kubuntu to use one and not the other12:48
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leeghoofdhello, do you know what directoies to copy to copy all adresses and mails from kontact to another computer?01:00
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Hobbseeleeghoofd: ~/.kde/share/apps/kontact and ~/.kde/share/config/kontact* i would think.01:01
leeghoofdHobbsee: thanks, is that also the kontact settings?01:01
Hobbseethe latter will be the contact settings, the former will be the kontact data01:02
leeghoofdlike my accouunt info etc01:02
Hobbseeer, kontact01:02
Hobbseeyep01:02
Hobbseedo a "locate kontact"01:02
leeghoofdok thanks01:02
Hobbseeand just check if there are more files in the home dir about it...they need to be copied over, and put in the corresponding location01:02
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ninniuzhello01:03
ninniuzI read there are some upgrade instructions from breezy to dapper in the ubuntu site...are they suitable for kubuntu as well01:04
ninniuz?01:04
leeghoofdHobbsee I don't have that kontact folder01:05
leeghoofdHobbsee: in the apps subdir01:06
Hobbseeoh ok, maybe they call it something else...01:06
Hobbseeninniuz: yes, they are, replace ubuntu-desktop with kubuntu-desktop01:06
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leeghoofdI think mayby kmail01:06
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ninniuzgreat an error occured lol01:09
bhnaleeghoofd: look in your kmail.rc in the section General -> folder there is tha apth to your email-folder. the kmail settings are in .kde/share/apps/kmail01:09
bhnaleeghoofd: kmailrc is in .kde/share/config01:09
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Hobbseeah ok...01:11
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leeghoofdah it's folders=$HOME/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail01:13
kyaneoswhere is libXp ?? please01:13
leeghoofdthanks bhna01:13
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psi_forcehi all01:23
psi_forcehow do I stop the ksysguard applet asking for connection info everytime I startup?01:24
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ubuntuhi01:27
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Kevin_Jimhi'01:28
Kevin_Jimi try to install the Kubuntu but i'm stuck at the language part !01:28
bhnapsi_force: wich applet. i have no ksysguard applet01:29
ninniuzwhat do you mean you are stuck?01:29
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ChousukeKevin_Jim: iirc there was some bug with languages. Select english01:29
Kevin_Jimi chose the Greek languege and then nothing !01:29
Chousukeor are you installing breezy or dapper?01:30
ninniuzand if dapper which beta?01:30
Kevin_Jimdapper01:30
Kevin_Jim6.0601:30
Chousukechoose english for now01:30
Chousukeyou can change the language later.01:30
ninniuzbeta 1 or 2'01:30
ninniuz?01:30
Kevin_Jimthe latest01:30
Kevin_Jimi chose english and again nothing !01:31
Chousuke:/01:31
Chousukeweird.01:31
ninniuzthought they have fixed those problems with languages01:31
Hobbseelanguages are being worked on...in the next week or so...01:32
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fjellrev1can anyone help me install Vmware..I dont know much,the only file that seems logical is "vmvare-installer.pl" this is python,no??what do I do with it? :)01:33
Kevin_Jimbut if i don't chose i can intall it !01:33
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ninniuzwhy Vmware? take a look at qemu01:35
bhnafjellrev1: open the terminal and type ./vmware-installer.pl01:36
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SolanHi:D01:38
Solancan anyone tell me where msncontact.cpp, the file for Kopete MSN, is located? or how I can search for it?01:39
ninniuzkopete/protocols/msn01:40
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Solanhow can I search for it? I can't fint the kopete folder...01:41
ninniuzhave you downloaded it?01:41
ninniuztry this locate msncontact.cpp01:42
SolanI'v installed it...01:42
Solanthx..;)01:42
ninniuzfrom01:42
ninniuzsource packages? you installed it or compiled and installed?01:42
SolanI'v installed kubuntu-desktop, and I came with it.... I think...?01:42
ninniuzwell you have no source then so you have no msncontact.cpp file01:43
ninniuzwhy do u need it01:43
HobbseeSolan: locate kopete01:43
ninniuzhe has no sources01:43
Hobbseeah...01:43
SolanI need to uncomment a line to make it download the display images automaticly...01:43
ninniuzwell then you need sources and to compile it on ur own01:44
Kevin_Jimi have the Kubuntu 6.06 Live CD, can i install it some way at the begin, Before the computer load the live ?01:44
ninniuzdunno Kevin...let it load and you can chose to install it from the desktop01:45
abattoirSolan: Not sure which version you have, but beta3 has an option under the MSN settings...01:45
Kevin_Jimi try but when i'm up to chose the language nothing happen's neither for Greek neither for Engish one !01:46
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abattoirSolan : "Download msn picture -> Automatically, Only manually etc.."01:46
cyB3r44rdhi there!01:47
abattoirSolan: have you checked the MSN Messenger Account settings?01:47
cyB3r44rdi have an xgl - xkb related question, could someone help me?01:47
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bhnaKevin_Jim: #ubuntu+1 is the dapper channel01:47
Solanabattoir: I don't know witch version I'v got, but I'v enabled the download it automatically function, but I still have to do it manually.....01:48
cyB3r44rdafter installing and setting up xgl successfully i have lost my xkb settings, can't use alt-gr, ctrl and stuff. local setting would be pc105 hu01:48
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bhnacyB3r44rd: #ubuntu+1 is the dapper channel01:48
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cyB3r44rdthx01:49
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anthony89hi01:50
Hobbseebhna: no, #kubuntu is the kubuntu dapper channel.01:51
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Hobbseehowever, xgl might make more sense somewhere else...i'm not sure01:51
ninniuzstill cant upgrade my breezy to dapper ;-/01:51
Hobbseeninniuz: why so?01:52
ninniuznothing seems to work01:52
anthony89how do I upgrade to GNOME?01:52
ninniuzchanging my sources.list and doing a dist-upgrade wants to delete kde01:53
Hobbseeanthony89: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:53
bhnaHobbsee: are you shure?01:53
Hobbseeninniuz: ah, lovely...do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?01:53
anthony89tnx01:53
Hobbseebhna: yep01:53
ninniuzyes I have kubuntu-desktop (breezy) installed01:53
Hobbseebhna: i raised it yesterday in the meeting, was told that was the case, adn changed the topic01:53
Hobbseeninniuz: hmm...i thought it shouldnt have done that...01:54
bhnaHobbsee: ok then its may fault. sorry01:54
Hobbseebhna: not a problem01:54
ninniuzHobbsee: I thought too01:54
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Hobbseeninniuz: it is safer to upgrade off a dapper cd - beta 2 is out fairly soon01:54
ninniuzHobbsee: yes but how can I?01:55
ninniuzHobbsee: should I include that cd in my sources and upgrade from there?01:55
anthony89How do I register my nickname pls?01:55
Hobbsee!register01:55
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration01:55
anthony89tnx01:55
Hobbseeninniuz: no, you'd back up your /home partition, and install off the dapper cd01:55
ninniuzHobbsee: oh well I wouldnt want to lose everything I have :p01:56
Hobbseetrue, that's why you backup home01:56
Hobbseeback in a bit - need the new version of ndiswrapper...01:56
ninniuzk01:56
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anthony89How do I login with my registered user when I restart my pc. or is that done automatically?01:58
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Solanwhat's the correct syntax for patching with a .patch file? something with p0 I think..?02:04
ninniuzpatch -p0 < file.patch02:04
Solanthx:)02:04
ninniuzyou're welcome02:04
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fyrfaktryhas anyone gotten Kub to run at 1920x1200 on live CD? i don't see res options going that high.02:14
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anthonysry, but my internet connection was lost02:25
|lostbyte|how do  i tell  which interface to use for internet connection sharing ?02:25
anthonycan you pls tell me again the command to update GNOME?02:26
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abattoira02:26
visik7|lostbyte|: iptables -A POSTROUTING -o <interface> -j MASQUERADE02:27
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anthonyHow do you update kubunto to GNOME pls?02:28
visik7apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:28
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anthonyit gives me an error02:29
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|lostbyte|visik7: that is to be done on my gateway pc right ?02:29
visik7|lostbyte|: correct02:29
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anthonyk done it02:30
anthonyi had to add sudo before02:30
|lostbyte|visik7: and on both pc's the interface as o be the same ?02:30
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visik7wait a min I'm on the phoe02:31
visik7phone02:31
watsont4hi all02:31
watsont4hi all02:31
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visik7|lostbyte|: tell me02:33
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watsont4would anyone be able to help me with a network problem im having?02:33
visik7<interface> means the interface that u use as default gateway not the one connected to the switch where other computers are connected to02:33
visik7watsont4: explain the problem02:33
watsont4ok, im on dapper and i performed a dist-upgrade02:34
watsont4however the upgrade hung and i was forced to kill the updater02:34
blackflaghello all :)02:34
watsont4i rebooted and then the network wasnt working02:34
visik7what ifconfig says ?02:34
watsont4however i can still see it using iwconfig02:34
visik7have u finshed the upgrade ?02:34
blackflagdoes someone know how to remove abot from an IRC channel?02:34
visik7btw #ubuntu+102:35
blackflaga bot02:35
watsont4ifconfig is fine, it says im connected, has an ip, signal strength etc02:35
watsont4but in network settings it says eth1 (the interface im using) is not connected02:35
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watsont4sorry activated02:35
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watsont4i can click activate02:35
watsont4that brings up an activation progress box, which dissapears after about a minute and then says its activated02:36
watsont4however if i run network settings again it says its not active again02:36
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visik7never used such a panel02:37
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domithe network settings gui seems a bit buggy with wireless cards02:37
SolanI need to do this: cat <prefix>/share/mediatomb/mysql.sql | mysql -u root mediatomb, but what am I supposed to replace <prefix> with...?02:37
watsont4yeah02:37
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watsont4but ifconfig seems to be working fine02:37
watsont4ifup reports problems though02:38
watsont4is that important?02:38
visik7u need to check ifconfig , route -n and /etc/resolv.conf to be sure that the connection is working properly02:38
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watsont4ok what am i looking for to indicate its working correctly?02:38
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domisend a ping to www.google.de02:39
watsont4i get unknown host02:39
watsont4i tried pinging another computer on our network but no joy02:40
Chris_Tuckeri dont get why people say to ping google... i never get pongs from google02:40
domiPING www.l.google.com (216.239.51.104) 56(84) bytes of data.02:40
domi64 bytes from 216.239.51.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=238 time=145 ms02:40
Chris_Tuckerchris@Anisa:~$ ping www.google.de02:41
Chris_TuckerPING www.l.google.com (72.14.205.99) 56(84) bytes of data.02:41
watsont4yeah it didnt work for me02:41
Chris_Tucker15 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 14013ms02:41
visik7Cheapy:  I always get icmp echo reply from google02:41
Cheapyyes02:41
visik7--- www.l.google.com ping statistics ---02:41
visik73 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms02:41
visik7rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 171.697/183.990/205.316/15.146 ms02:41
Chris_Tuckervisik7, i think you mean me, two more tabs02:42
visik7ops :)02:42
Chris_Tucker;)02:42
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Chris_Tuckermaybe my own firewall is blocking it, i have it set to drop icmp packets02:42
watsont4so i ran sudo ifup eth102:42
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watsont4im getting a message saying send_packet: Network is down02:43
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, dhcp server on the network?02:43
domiwatson, do you have wep or wpa enables?02:43
Chris_Tuckersudo ifconfig eth1 up02:43
Chris_Tuckersudo dhclient eth102:43
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watsont4yes i have wep enabled02:43
watsont4but the key is correct02:43
kimoguys, I stopped getting the 'update notifier' in tray! Is there a specific reason for that? How can I test?02:43
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, OOH! i know this, i had SERIOUS probs with it02:44
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, just a sec ive got a script for you02:44
visik7Chris_Tucker: u should drop icmp echo request from outside not from inside02:44
visik7btw time to go02:44
domilook after the wep key at /etc/network/interfaces if it is readable02:44
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, sudo ifconfig eth1 up02:45
domior only asteriks02:45
watsont4yeah ive done that02:45
watsont4i get errors when i run dhclient though02:45
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed02:45
domican you read the wep key or are thee only asteriks?02:46
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "your_ssid"     <-- INCLUDE THE QUOTES02:46
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, sudo iwconfig wlan0 key open "XXXXXXX"  <<-- AGAIN KEEP THE QUOTES, put in your key where XXXXX02:46
watsont4yeah i dont have an interface called wlan002:46
watsont4should i change that to eth1?02:47
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, whoops supposed to do all this with eth1 down02:47
domiyep02:47
Chris_Tuckeryea change it to eth102:47
Chris_Tuckerbut bring eth1 down first02:47
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, then bring eth1 up after those steps above02:47
Chris_Tuckerand sudo dhclient eth102:47
Chris_Tuckershould work, if it did, i can mod my script to say eth1 for you and send it, all you'd have to do is edit it, fill in the ssid, and key, and save, chmod +x02:48
Chris_Tuckeri can also tell you how to add that stuff to your startup02:48
Chris_Tucker:)02:48
kimoguys, I stopped getting the 'update notifier' in tray! Is there a specific reason for that? How can I test?02:48
domimaybe your machine is up to date02:49
kimono there is one update02:49
Chris_Tuckerkimo, that appears when your not up-to-date, and i think if you have gnome installed too02:49
Chris_Tuckerright click it and choose to update02:49
Chris_Tuckerit will update and go away02:49
kimoright click what?02:49
kimoI am on KDE02:49
Chris_Tuckerupdate-notifier02:50
kimoIt's not in the tray02:50
domigo to terminal, type in: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade02:50
kimodomi: this shows one update for gstreamer02:50
kimodomi: I wanna update from the notifier, not apt-get02:50
Chris_Tuckerdomi, ive done that before, update-notifier still lingers around, add && killall update-notifier to that line :)02:50
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, did it work?02:51
watsont4no sorry chris02:51
Chris_Tuckerdescribe your error02:51
watsont4when i run dhclient eth1 i get lots of permission denied followed by some operation not permitteed02:51
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Chris_Tuckersome notebooks have problems using wireless with the wired still turned on, mine fits in that catagory, also needs acpi to be configed correctly to show the battery state :/02:51
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, did you use sudo on it?02:52
watsont4SIOCSI flags and masks02:52
watsont4yeah i did02:52
Chris_TuckerReally weird02:52
watsont4yeah the wireless used to work fine02:52
watsont4yeah i have no idea what it is02:52
Chris_Tuckerive never seen errors in dhclient before, besides when i screwed up a step or my radio is turned off, then it just cant get a lease02:52
watsont4yeah radio is on, i checked that already!02:53
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watsont4ifconfig is working flawlessly02:53
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, good man02:53
watsont4i can scan for access points etc02:53
Chris_TuckerWow02:53
watsont4yeah so im stumped as to what the problem is02:54
Chris_Tuckernow thats not right... you sure you had eth1 down before you performed those steps, and then did sudo ifconfig eth1 up before dhclient? thats the only thing i can think of02:54
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watsont4yep did it all02:55
Tonio_anyone there using knetworkmanager ? I have new version available and need tester02:55
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watsont4Chris_Tucker: I have a change02:56
Chris_Tucker?02:57
watsont4now dhclient reports no DHCP offers received02:57
watsont4instead of lots of errors02:57
watsont4oh its because the network card was unassociated02:57
watsont4my bad02:57
Chris_Tuckerahh02:57
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watsont4yeah this is driving me insane02:58
kimoFigured it out, notifier for KDE, is called adept_notifier02:59
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watsont4yeah im back to permission denied and operation not permitted03:00
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watsont4does anyone know what  SIOCSEF refers to?03:01
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epHi boys.  Still on a quest to install koffice 1.5 in breezy.  I have added Jonathan's key but all the mirrors given on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-15.php are bad.  Can I get the deb elsewhere?03:01
Hobbseeep: is there a new version of koffice at all?03:02
ninniuz1.503:02
epKOffice 1.5 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu.  Just not for me.03:02
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, you use ndiswrapper for that card?03:02
Hobbseeno, a newer version than 1.5....i thought i read something about it03:03
ninniuzno dont think so Hobbsee03:03
Hobbseewatsont4: ooh yeah, i've heard of that.  IIRC, they know about it, and am workign on it03:03
epEven better, I just want something that does ODF.  I'm not an upgrade junkie or anything.03:03
ninniuzepinephrine: wich mirror?03:03
Chris_Tuckerwow lots of misshit tabs going on in here03:04
HobbseeChris_Tucker: ?03:04
Chris_Tuckerdunno03:04
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watsont4no i dont think i use ndis wrapper03:05
epHow can I get it (koffice 1.5) for breezy?03:05
Chris_Tuckerwatsont4, well that screws my only other idea :/03:05
ninniuzepinephrine: which deb source are you using?03:05
ninniuzsorry...talking to ep03:06
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epninniuz: I'm tried all the deb source listed on the url i posted above.  None work.03:07
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FearMothis it possible to netboot install kubuntu?03:07
ninniuzI'm using the first one...it should03:07
ninniuzlet me check03:07
epfor breezy03:07
ep?03:07
ninniuzbreezy03:07
ninniuzadded through adept or what?03:08
Tonio_FearMoth: with a RIS, yes, that should be possible03:08
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Tonio_accross the net, no, it isn't actually03:08
FearMothTonio_ what's a RIS ?03:08
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Tonio_remote installation service03:09
watsont4Chris_Tucker: its all a bit of a nightmare!03:09
Tonio_ghostcast server for example uses RIS03:09
epninniuz: i'm not familar with installing from deb so its higly probable i'm doing things wrong03:09
FearMothTonio_ so I'd need another computer running linux to install it on this one?03:09
Tonio_so if you got it, simply install kubuntu in oem mode, create an ghost image that you place on the ghostcast server03:09
Tonio_and then pxe boot will work03:09
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ninniuzepinephrine: did you add the source through adept?03:10
Tonio_FearMoth: maybe yes, but what I'm talking about is for deploiement in companies03:10
Tonio_ghostcast server isn't a free application ;)03:10
FearMothohh03:10
FearMothi'm kinda stuck here..03:10
ninniuzoh damn dunno why kopete keeps expanding ep to ephinerphrine03:10
epi did install the key via wget and apt-key add. Thats where i'm at03:10
Tonio_I don't know any ris server for linux03:10
Tonio_FearMoth: could be interesting to look if partimage as a component for this03:11
Tonio_but that will require a server part component, with dhcp server etc...... it is not an easy job to set03:11
epninniuz: no I did not add the source through adept.  How do i do this03:11
FearMothi have no blank cd-r's to burn the iso to, is there any way I can boot from floppy and boot the ISO or anything? or extract the kubuntu iso file to an empty partition and boot with grub? is that possible?03:11
ninniuzep:open adept, then adept -> manage repositories03:12
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epcan i do this from the command line?03:13
ninniuzinsert the line you find on that site on the text box03:13
Tonio_FearMoth: with ris you don't need even a floppy03:13
leeghoofdhey, do you know how to add a button directly to a directory (home for instance) to the taskbar?03:13
ep i see03:13
Tonio_pxe network boot, performs dhcp and the floppy equivalent is shipped by the ris server03:13
ninniuzyes you can...you should edit you /etc/apt/sources.list03:13
FearMothTonio_: can I do it using only one computer though?03:13
Tonio_in your case, I don't think a floppy is big enough to contain boot minimal environnement and network driver03:13
Tonio_FearMoth: if you talk about rebooting on an iso file, I don't know any way to do this with linux03:14
Tonio_there is a windows application that does this, but that's quite crappy method, since it hacks the MBR on the fly03:14
leeghoofdther eis a submenu button but that means two click to get to home, can I directly add it to the taskbar03:15
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leeghoofdlike in default kde03:15
Tonio_FearMoth: what do you want to do exactly ? upgrade to dapper or something ?03:15
epjust add the deb line to the sources.list file?03:15
Tonio_FearMoth: cause I beleive what you wanna do is not really possible03:15
ninniuzyes03:15
FearMothTonio_: nope, just install kubuntu.. I just have no cds.03:15
epeasy as pie, thanks03:16
Tonio_FearMoth: what are you using actually ?03:16
ninniuzyou're welcome03:16
FearMothTonio_: what do you mean?03:16
Tonio_are you using kubuntu in previous version actually ?03:16
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FearMothno, ubuntu breezy03:16
Tonio_FearMoth: and you want to update to dapper ? that doesn't require reinstallation03:17
FearMothi know I can install kubuntu-desktop but I'd like to do a clean install of kubuntu03:17
Tonio_FearMoth: then I'm affraid buying a cd is the only solution.......03:17
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FearMothcan't boot from my current grub setup at all? I extracted the iso image to a 2.2gb orb disk that I formatted with ext2, but when I set up grub to boot it, it kernel panicked. maybe I just have it set up wrong?03:18
Tonio_FearMoth: hum....... that can be an option yes03:19
Tonio_I think it is possible to boot an iso file using grub, I forgot that option ;)03:19
Tonio_FearMoth: you can try this03:19
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FearMothTonio_: can I use the vmlinuz and initrd.gz that are in the /install directory on the cd image?03:21
Tonio_FearMoth: don't know concerning this, but you search google grub concerning booting an iso file directly,03:22
Tonio_I never used this, but I remember something talking about that03:22
epninniuz: I added deb line and updated.  Now I'm ready to apt-get install koffice.  How can i verify I'm getting 1.5 and not 1.4 first?03:23
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FearMothTonio_: what program is run once the cd boots up? is there any way to find out and run that if I booted from a rescue floppy and chroot'd to where I extracted the ISO?03:24
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ninniuzI'm pretty sure you will get the 1.5 version03:24
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epok03:24
epbtw i guess ep doesn't need any expanding :-)03:25
ninniuzit does when I type ep:03:25
ninniuzand some text after it03:25
ninniuzlike that ep: hi03:25
ninniuzepinephrine: hi03:25
epah03:26
ninniuzsee?03:26
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epwow, koffice is zippy fast opening odf's  compared to openoffice03:31
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navidjoonAnybody upgraded to Dapper?03:44
epOn that source install I just did for koffice 1.5.  The deb source was 1.5 specific, can I comment out or delete the line from my sources.list file or do I need to keep it around for future upgrades?03:45
navidjoonIs it safe? Any problems?03:45
apokryphosit's still beta status, but many people are using it03:45
navidjoonI knwo. I'm looking for someone who has done this himself.03:46
apokryphosme ;-)03:47
navidjoonFine, apokryphos, how was the experience?03:47
apokryphosthere's no guarantees that it'll work, and it may vary day-by-day, but to speak for myself I've been using it for a few months now =)03:47
navidjoonAny particular problems?03:47
epWhat are the big differences compared to breezy?03:47
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apokryphoshaven't encountered any problems that I couldn't ever get over, really. It helps if you're experienced a bit with ubuntu/debian-based systems03:47
apokryphosep: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/dapper-beta.php03:48
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knztuxbonjour03:48
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navidjoonOne more thing, is there any difference if I do  a clean install or update?03:48
apokryphosnavidjoon: in general I'd say: you should almost definitely be fine03:48
apokryphosnavidjoon: many people in #ubuntu+1 have it03:49
knztuxsoory03:49
knztuxOoops03:49
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apokryphosnavidjoon: there's a difference, but it's easier and should be just find to dist-upgrade03:49
navidjoonSi I'll just have to edit my repo file and do a apt-get update?03:49
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apokryphosnavidjoon: /msg ubotu upgrade03:51
petseihello :)03:51
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cfraz89i03:56
cfraz89*hi03:56
cfraz89has anyone here been able to print with a canon printer in dapper?03:56
cfraz89for me it stops after a page and a hlf03:56
cfraz89and i can see other people have same problem, from google03:56
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JakubScfraz89: i have canon pixma ip1500 and it works fine (kinda)03:58
scream_Buenos dias03:58
cfraz89kinda?03:59
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JakubSwell, having max 600dpi on printer capable of several times more or driver running amok if i hit 'print' before turning on printer is not what i call working perfectly04:02
cfraz89oh ok04:02
cfraz89hmm04:02
cfraz89my ip4000 stops after a page04:02
JakubSwhere did you find drivers for it?04:03
cfraz89im using the gutenprint ones04:03
cfraz89apparently the drivers dont matter, the printing always stops04:03
cfraz89i think its a bug in cups 1.204:03
JakubShm, my setup is laptop with kubuntu and cups 1.2 printing to remote printer connected to machine with cups 1.1 on suse04:04
JakubSbut i tested it first with direct connection to laptop and it worked04:05
cfraz89oh ok04:05
JakubSi don't remember if i tested several pages though04:05
cfraz89hmmm04:05
cfraz89oh04:05
cfraz89for me a simple 1 page will work04:05
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cfraz89but anything complex or over a page stops04:06
JakubSprinting process hangs or terminates?04:06
cfraz89no04:06
cfraz89the job still shows04:06
cfraz89seems all responsive04:06
cfraz89but printer stops printing04:06
cfraz89eventually it times out and spits out the half page04:06
psi_forcewhy does the system guard applet always ask for connection info when I login?04:07
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michaelhi04:10
sorush20what do I have to do so that my kmeunu on task bar is refresed?04:10
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michaeli ve connected two linux boxen via a cross over network cable04:11
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michael what is the best aka easiest way to share files between them?04:11
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Hobbseesorush20: killall kicker && kicker04:12
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cfraz89michael: either samba or kde filesharing applet04:15
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michaelcfraz89: whats the kde filesharing applet?04:17
nadav_hi anyone femil;ar with APT or ADEPT for help ?04:17
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nadav_chanells04:20
nadav_#Israel04:20
cfraz89it is a kicker applet04:21
cfraz89right click on kicker04:21
cfraz89add applet04:21
cfraz89it is called public file server04:21
cfraz89it is basically a small web server04:21
cfraz89but is immensely useful in quickly sharing files over the network04:21
cfraz89especially tied in with zeroconf04:21
Chris_Tuckeranyone know of a way to disable KDE's auto-handling of volume events?04:23
cfraz89you mean popping in cd's and stuff?04:23
Chris_Tuckerlike XF86AudioRaiseVolume04:24
cfraz89oh04:24
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nadav_HI dose anyon knows to fix APT cache problem.04:24
Chris_Tuckeri dont want it to handel those events, cause it does it with the master, and the master on this driver does nothing, only PCM. and i have my own keybindings ready to go to control PCM. but those normal evnts are hogging it04:24
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WhyMDoes anyone know what could prevent Kmail from sending messages via any smtp provider?04:27
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xstIf I install the beta-release, will I then be able to upgrade to all future releases simply by doing a "apt-get upgrade"?04:37
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bimberixst: yes, except with dist-upgrade04:40
bimberigah04:40
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bimberixst: yes, but use 'dist-upgrade'04:41
smooshhi, what is a good unit converter?04:41
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Seantatersmoosh: what do you want to convert?04:44
xstbimberi. Ok, thanks04:44
smooshSeantater: the most thing possible...04:45
Seantatersmoosh: like, celcius to fehrenhiet?04:45
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Seantatersmoosh: try http://www.convertit.com/Go/ConvertIt/Measurement/Converter.ASP04:46
smooshSeantater: no,like Watt to Hp... meters to miles and son on...04:46
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smooshSeantater: ok...04:46
Seantatersmoosh: I use it a lot for stuff like that..04:46
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smooshSeantater: thanks04:48
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Chris_Tuckerhow do you have something start the instant kdm does?04:53
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SeantaterChris_Tucker: add it do the KDM init script..04:53
Chris_TuckerSeantater, where is that?04:54
SeantaterChris_Tucker: but in a serial computer, you have to decide whether you want it before or after kdm..04:54
SeantaterChris_Tucker: look in /etc/rcS.d04:54
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SeantaterChris_Tucker: It should have somwthing that says kdm04:54
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Chris_TuckerSeantater, nope04:55
SeantaterChris_Tucker: Just open that as root in a text editor and add whatever you want to the end04:55
SeantaterChris_Tucker: nope, no kdm?04:56
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SeantaterChris_Tucker: Sorry, not rcS.d, it's in /etc/init.d04:57
Chris_TuckerSeantater, its also in /etc/rc2.d/S21kdm04:57
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SeantaterChris_Tucker: Ok -- so I'm no expert at SysV init..04:57
Chris_TuckerSeantater, so in /etc/init.d/kdm where inside this would i put my command?04:58
SeantaterChris_Tucker: Either the end or beginning04:58
SeantaterChris_Tucker: but, always put it below the #!/bin/bash part!!04:59
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Snorreanyone here use digikam in dapper?04:59
Chris_TuckerSeantater, ive written a few bash scripts, i know that much ;) i wasnt sure cause the exit 0 at the end04:59
SeantaterChris_Tucker: well -- the exit 0 pert is optional, so you need to wither put it before exit 0 or remove exit 005:00
cfraz89i use digikam05:00
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SeantaterSnorre: Not recently, but I did in alpha 5..05:01
Snorrecfraz89: do your plugins load ??05:01
Snorremine dont, not the kipi plugins, nor the digikam oones05:02
SeantaterSnorre: I had the same problem..05:02
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SnorreSeantater: any fix,, ive hunted high and low, but i couldnt even find  reports of the same issue05:05
SeantaterSnorre: I never gave it that much thought -- I just stopped using digikam05:05
Snorrebummer05:06
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Snorreyeah  ive just started using fspot instead05:07
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cfraz89Snorre: yes05:08
cfraz89they do for me05:09
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cfraz89this printing problem is driving me insance05:09
cfraz89*insane05:09
cfraz89i think im going to convert this computer to suse05:09
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cfraz89cups in dapper sucks05:11
Seantatercfraz89: so what's wrong with your printing?05:13
cfraz89it stops after one and a half pages05:14
Seantatercfraz89: on everything?05:14
cfraz89apparantly many people with pixma printers and dapper have same problem05:14
cfraz89yep05:14
biovorecfraz89: check with the cupsys people..05:15
cfraz89their all dead or asleep05:16
biovorewell it is saturday05:16
cfraz89hmm05:17
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cfraz89oh well05:17
cfraz89thanks anyway05:17
cfraz89cya05:17
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eugmanI'm going to do a full backup with kdar. Should I exclude any of the stuff in the list like proc? What is that anyways?05:19
Seantatereugman: WARNING! Do not backup /proc!05:20
Seantatereugman: It's an interface to your kernel.. But it's not real, it's just statistics and config files that do not exist.05:21
eugmanFrom the looks of it everything on the list is temporary so I'll add all of the exclude folders.05:21
eugmanthanks05:22
Seantatereugman: Also remeber not to back up /usr, probably not /opt, not /bin, /sbin, /tmp05:22
Seantatereugman: /boot won't do any good backed up either..05:23
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eugmanWell I'd like to be able to doa full restore so wouldn't it be a good idea to most of those?05:24
eugmanhmm my verb ran away.05:24
Seantatereugman: AFAIK, a full restore is not entirely possible..05:25
Seantatereugman: it would be more a problem than it's worth dealing with apt.05:25
Seantatereugman: I keep all my data on a separate parition so I don't deal with that..05:26
Seantatereugman: I'm giving a good guess that a full restore whould not boot because of the traditional way of copying files.. AFAIK, the kernel has to be the first file on the partition..05:27
eugmanBut let's say I beak something on my installation do you think it's possible to roll backp to the state from the last backup?05:28
Seantatereugman: It depends on how broken it is and what broke..05:29
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eugmanI guess the point is moot anyways . If it's something so bad that I can't get into the terminal I'm doomed anyways and most stuff can be fixed with ubuntu with a bit of searching.05:32
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slow-motionhallo05:35
Chris_Tuckerive got a testimony :P here it goes: with ubuntu installed, and ndiswrapper, i had kubuntu-desktop installed too and xfce, etc.... I would FREQUENTLY get kernel panics caused by ndiswrapper, which drove me nuts, and i went on a search for a replacement mini-pci nic but ended up empty handed..05:37
robotgeek!wireless05:37
ubotuit has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers05:37
Chris_Tuckerrobotgeek, not finished yet05:38
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Chris_Tuckertwo days ago i reinstalled for several reasons, and chose Kubuntu this time, and am very happy with it, but the really surprising and confusing thing is that so far i have NOT encountered ANY kernel panics AT ALL since doing this, even running one program that ALWAYs  used to cause it, so all in all, im extremely pleased with my decision05:38
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robotgeekChris_Tucker: heh, nice. strange, as they use same kernel05:39
Chris_Tuckeryea, thats whats great :)05:39
Chris_Tuckerim on 2.6.12-10-686. just as i was with ubuntu05:40
Chris_Tucker:D05:40
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nico8481re05:45
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mzelemCould someone help me figure out what why I can't copy/paste. For some reason when using kubuntu, my computer will randomly not copy and paste, (even in the same application sometimes.) I can use the middle mouse button for pasting, but not being able to highlight other text to replace it is extremely annoying06:00
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Chris_Tuckerthere a command i can assign to a button for locking the session ?06:02
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Chris_Tucker( i know how to assign the command, just need to know the command )06:05
robotgeekChris_Tucker: not sure, sorry06:07
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nKfhi06:09
nKfcan someone give me a complete list of all offical entries in the sources.list for kubuntu/dapper, please?06:10
robotgeek!sources06:11
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:11
nKfthanks, ill take a look06:11
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mzelemDoes anyone know why copy/paste wouldn't work ( and yes I do have Klipper running )06:16
mark---Some setting is messed up with the "Always on top" feature. How can I change (i think in KDE settings) what applications are 'always on top'? The problem is that, for example, when I want to compose a new e-mail, the new one is hidden until I force to go 'always on top'.06:16
robotgeekmzelem: what options do you have in kilpper06:16
robotgeekmark---: i would think, Right click (on window border) -> Window Settings06:17
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robotgeekor application settings06:17
mzelemconfigure klipper06:17
mark---thanks...checking...06:17
mzelemrobotgeek:I'm not quite sure what you mean...06:18
robotgeekmzelem: i have "Syncronize clipboards" and "Prevent empty clipbaords"06:19
mzelemoh, ok, I have that, and "save clipboard contents on exit06:20
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mzelem"remove whitespace when executeing actions...06:20
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mzelem"replay actions on item selected from history (not checked)"06:20
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robotgeekmzelem: if it doesn't work, i am not sure what's wrong06:22
mzelemrobotgeek: last time I had this problem someone had me change the permissions on something and it fixed it, but then I installed breezy over hoary and I forgot what they told me to do....06:23
robotgeekmzelem: i have no clue, sorry06:24
mzelemok, thanks anyway06:24
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francoisis it good?06:42
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XP1anyone here?06:55
thmasyeah06:55
XP1i installed samba and all of a sudden, my internet connection doesn't work06:55
XP1i mean the wireless card06:56
XP1or the nic06:56
thmasi installed samba a few minutes ago06:56
thmashere i am :)06:56
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thmascan't help u with that problem, sorry.06:57
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XP1:(06:58
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minime--!wine07:00
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stevekl"Are you a generous lover?"07:03
steveklWell i'd like to think I am.07:03
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minime--oh no im so egoistic its not true07:08
zambbaoh noes07:09
minime--=)07:09
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regeyakubuntu dapper is coming along sooooooooooo nicely...if anyone involved is around, congrats07:12
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ubuntupeople... my kubuntu beta 2 crashed during installation, i didn't spect that :-S07:15
minime--!nvidia07:16
ubotuPlease read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia07:16
regeyahint:  beta 2 is BETA :->07:21
ubuntu;-)07:22
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Blissexregeya: beta 2 is _very_ BETA in some parts.07:25
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visik7there is more than a month from here to dapper release and OS community work much faster than closed07:30
visik7(who said vista will'not be out in a month ? :) )07:30
visik7Gotta go07:30
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ubuntuis there any way to use the old text installation system with the Desktop beta 2 CD?07:36
crimsunno, that's the install beta 2 cd07:37
crimsunthat's in ^07:37
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stuqok, can someone tell me what 'skim' is??07:38
ubuntuok07:38
ubuntuthx07:38
ubuntui think i will need to download the other CD :-S07:38
stuq"skim is an input method platform"07:38
stuqwhatever that is...07:38
crimsunstuq: it's a kde frontend for scim07:39
stuqyes, but what is an input method platform.. what does it do?07:40
crimsunscim of course is used for entering characters in other languages like Chinese07:40
stuqah...07:40
stuqok07:40
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minime--!mount07:46
ubotuit has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f07:46
Solanany1 have any experience with setting up mediatomb?07:48
HymnToLife!anyone07:49
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>07:49
drbreen!automount07:49
ubotudrbreen: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:49
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drbreenis there a way to disable automount?07:50
Solanokay, I'm getting an error when I try running mediatomb, the error sais that a table in a database doesn't excist, but the user that the program has been connected to has full admin rights to the database.. what's wrong?07:51
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jihihow can i give a user, who is not in the user list, write permissions to a mounted Vfat device?08:12
jihihow can i set writable for all users? ^^08:13
HymnToLife!tell jihi about ntfs08:14
HymnToLifeit covers FAT also08:14
gleesondhow do I stop ubuntu from overwrighing my /etc/resolv.conf... it trys to auto detect the nameservers but gets the wrong ip's I know the right ip's08:14
drbreenjihi: a user in the user list ?08:17
krenxHi. im trying to mount my 2nd hdd, im on Disk & filesystems now. what type should it be ? Second Extended FS ?08:17
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drbreenerr not in the user list ?08:17
drbreenkrenx: is it formatted yet ?08:17
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krenxno, do I need to format it? :/08:18
krenxits fat32 btw.08:18
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HymnToLifekrenx> better use Windows to format a partition as FAT08:18
HymnToLifeI heard Parted doesn't do it properly08:19
krenxI really dont know how to do that08:19
HymnToLiferight click in My Computer > Format08:19
drbreenkrenx: try "sudo mkdosfs /dev/hdb1" or stuff08:19
krenxor stuff ?08:19
krenx:)08:20
drbreenhda is ide 1 master drive, hdb ide 1 slave, hdc ide 2 master etc.08:20
drbreenand hda1 is first partition on disk hda08:20
drbreenthat is stuff08:20
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drbreenyou do not have to use windows08:21
drbreeni do not use parted regularly, but it did its job once with fat partitions08:21
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krenxgparted ?08:22
drbreenyeah that is the program08:22
drbreenuse it, luke08:23
krenxok, ken08:23
krenx:P08:23
drbreenmy name is bob08:23
drbreenreally ;)08:23
krenxMy name is Hans08:24
krenxhans-inge08:24
krenxI dont see my 2nd hdd in gparted08:24
drbreenwhat DO you see08:25
krenxhda1,hda2 and hda508:25
drbreenyou see more ?08:26
krenxno08:26
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krenxoh08:26
krenxi changed too dev/hdb now08:26
krenx:)08:26
xwolf-how do i install a .tar.bz2 file?08:27
drbreentar -xzf myarchive.tar.gz08:27
drbreenand then search for an install script ?08:28
krenxwith this unallocated, i rightclick and "new" ?08:28
h3sp4wntar vxfj myarchive.tar.bz208:28
drbreenis it unallocated ? we do not want to destroy your preciousssss partitionssss ?08:28
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drbreenif it really is, then, YES08:28
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krenxuhm, can only do new size 808:29
krenxminimum 8 maximum 808:29
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krenxwhat should i convert the fat32 too ?08:31
xwolf-"configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH08:31
xwolf-"08:31
xwolf-i believe i have gcc installed... i do have.08:31
HymnToLife!tell xwolf- about b-e08:32
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drbreenkrenx: with "converting" do you mean you have data on a fat32 part and want to keep it or do you just want to make another partition (whick will wipe the space, of course)08:33
krenxnah08:34
drbreenas i recall, parted can not "cnovert partitions"08:35
drbreenbut you can delete it08:35
drbreensafe choices for new filesystems are reiserfs and ext308:35
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xwolf-!b-e08:37
ubotuNo make ? You need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.08:37
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wubrgamerhey guys, i am a n00b and am trying to network install ubuntnu on a laptop without any cd drive (it is a modern system with pxe booting capabilities though)08:38
dmlayton3Has anyone gotten mythTV working on Dapper?08:39
drbreenfor dapper use #ubuntu+108:39
dmlayton3thanks08:39
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wubrgameranybody know how to help me troubleshoot a dhcp3 server issue?08:40
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wubrgamerit won't start08:40
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xwolf-now i got "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!08:40
xwolf-"08:40
xwolf-that's odd.08:41
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xwolf-HymnToLife got any ideas? ;/08:42
HymnToLifehmmm... no :p08:43
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xwolf-that's not good :)08:43
timrixwolf-: install kdebase-dev08:43
xwolf-what's that?08:43
drbreenwubrgamer: so you have another system acting as dhcp server, right ?08:44
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timrixwolf-: A package to gets rid of the X errors message ;)08:44
xwolf-:P08:45
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xwolf-wow08:46
xwolf-that's big.08:46
tarheelwhy do I keep having trouble installing kubuntu on a 450 dell w/ 256 mem 16 meg video card 13 gig hardrive08:47
timritarheel: What kind of trouble? Dapper or Breezy?08:48
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tarheelit boots checks and goes to screen installing packages and stops08:49
timritarheel: let me guess: at 66% ?08:49
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tarheelat 0%08:50
HymnToLifewow08:50
HymnToLifethat's Satan's work for sure :p08:50
tarheeldoes not install08:50
timritarheel: Oops! What does the log say (or the error console)08:50
tarheelon error come up08:51
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timritarheel: Huh? I don't quite follow you.08:51
tarheelloaded the disk it installed, said remove disk and boot, boot pc 4 times keep getting stuck at screen installing packages08:52
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timritarheel: Ahh, so _after reboot_ i.e. the base-install had finished. OK, being 13 G i doubt it is sata. Has it a removable CDROM drive ?08:54
timritarheel: Other question: you did of course get sucessfully past the grub install, didn't you ?08:55
tarheelno   one cdrom drive ide, ide hardrive08:55
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xwolf-timri i got the same X includes error08:56
tarheelno I did keep getting error canot finish loading hard drive is full or disk is dirty08:56
xwolf-looks like it failed to install a single deb file? libopenxr or something like that08:57
xwolf-s/?/null08:57
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timrixwolf-: *cough* , well it worked here *cough*, do you have xorg-x11-dev installed ?08:57
xwolf-probably not.08:58
tarheelis there anyway to fix my problem08:58
timritarheel: Aha! Well, that is bad... :)08:58
xwolf-anyways, i just found out what i am trying to install is not gonna do what i want it to08:58
xwolf-so, game over.08:58
timrixwolf-: What do you want to do exactly?08:59
xwolf-do you think i should purge kdebase-dev?08:59
xwolf-it was kmobiletools.08:59
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timrixwolf-: Purge kdebase-dev if you do not need it (you obviously don't) cannot harm08:59
_ismaelAny person know  if is possible syncronizate kontact with mobile sony-ericsson t630?09:00
xwolf-timri is it in apt-get too? O_O09:00
timrixwolf-: kMobiletools is, yes (I'm running dapper, though)09:01
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timri_ismael: Ask xwolf- ;) As it happens he is just trying to install kmobiletools.09:02
tarheelwell I guess I'll try installing ubuntu see if it will load09:03
xwolf-from the page i read, kmobiletools was suited for motorola c650, my very own phone. don't know any other possible ones09:03
xwolf-well, back to java learning now.09:04
xwolf-afk09:04
timritarheel: That will not help, at that stage of the install your system is neither u nor ku09:04
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_ismaelbut kmobiletools no detect  my usb conection phone09:06
timri_ismael: Quote from kmobiletools.org/FAQ : "I installed it and it works really great with my t630"09:06
tarheeldid i do the partion right 13gig   it made a swap partion of 687megs  somthing like that09:06
timritarheel: It's a bit much but that shouldn't hamper the reboot at all.09:07
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=== timri Will be back in 10 minutes or so
=== timri Back so soon ? Yup!
timri_ismael: You might try the usbserial kernel module to connect your phone (just read it at kmobiletools.org/FAQs ) have no experience with that, though09:12
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timri_ismael: As I was saying: You might want to try the usbserial kernel module to connect your phone (Just read it at kmobiletools.org/FAQs) I have no experience with it though09:13
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Snake[Nude] timri: nice call :)09:15
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MachineScrewcan any one tell me why maps.google.com ajax interface won't work in Konqueror09:16
timriMachineScrew: What version of konqi?09:16
MachineScrewone sec09:16
MachineScrewDapper 3.5.209:17
joe_attaboyMachine: it's not supported at all09:17
joe_attaboyKonq, I mean09:17
timriMachineScrew: Strange have the same here, but it seems to be working (difficult to say with a louzy 512kbps line)09:17
MachineScrewjava isn't suported09:18
timriMachineScrew: What has java got to do with it?09:18
MachineScrewajax is java and xml09:18
MachineScrewthe interface dosn't need a refresh09:18
joe_attaboykonq isn't on the list of supported browsers, which is odd, since konq is supposed to be based on gecko09:18
timriMachineScrew: ajax = java and xml ???? bollocks09:19
MachineScrewno its based on KHTML09:19
timrijoe_attaboy: Huh konk is based on KHTML09:19
joe_attaboyare you sure about that?09:19
MachineScrewya09:19
MachineScrewsafari09:19
timrijoe_attaboy: yes09:19
MachineScrewmac browser09:19
joe_attaboywhere did I see that it used gecko?09:19
MachineScrewsame engine09:19
joe_attaboyrecently09:19
MachineScrewit used to09:20
MachineScrewuse gecko that is09:20
joe_attaboyOK09:20
joe_attaboythat explains it09:20
MachineScrewbut ajax dose use java09:20
joe_attaboyI'm getting old.09:20
joe_attaboyyou're right about ajax09:20
timriMachineScrew: Not true: But there was a borked gecko QT port for it09:20
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MachineScrewok09:20
timriMachineScrew: Well _I_ can do ajax with javascript09:20
MachineScrewright and its not working in Konqueror09:21
joe_attaboybrb09:21
timriMachineScrew: is *httprequest at all supported in Konqi09:21
MachineScrewok I don't know what to tell you but right now this is NOT the ajax interface09:22
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timriMachineScrew: From wikipedia: "Asynchronous JavaScript And XML, or its acronym, Ajax " So it has nothing to do with java09:24
MachineScrewcheck it09:24
MachineScrewhttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c383/satempler/snapshot1.jpg09:24
timriBut this discussion has also nothing to do with kubuntu :)09:24
joe_attaboyi just noticed my java setup for konq is afu. brb09:24
MachineScrewand this in mozilla09:26
MachineScrewhttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c383/satempler/snapshot2.jpg09:26
MachineScrewand yes it dose because it works in SuSE09:26
MachineScrew;)09:26
MachineScrewin knoqueror09:26
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yamalMachineScrew: google maps looks like the second screenshot for me in both konqueror and firefox09:26
MachineScrewthen you have somthing right that i don't09:27
MachineScrewthats what I am trying to get09:27
MachineScrewwhat do I not have09:27
timriMachineScrew: We have the same (dapper with konq 3.5.2), so I know it should be possible. For you info: I do not have java installed, have cookies set to 'treat all as session', so nothing special.09:28
MachineScrewok09:29
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MachineScrewso you have nothing extra installed yet it dosn't look right on here hmm... i did an update and it did upgrade konqueror09:29
MachineScrewmay be I should log out and log back in hun?09:30
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joe_attaboyMachine: I just noticed that konq doesn't support all of google mail either.09:33
joe_attaboythis is why I use firefox09:33
joe_attaboy;-)09:33
Snake__joe_attaboy: konq blows as a wb09:35
Snake__Been like that since KDE 3 came out09:36
Snake__lol09:36
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_ismaelhello09:39
robotgeekkonq on dapper does gmail fine, ty09:41
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krenxWy cant I see my hdd,floppy and cdrom in Storage media ?09:41
Snake__krenx: what version?09:41
Snake__robotgeek: it still sucks/09:41
Snake__krenx: Breezy or dapper09:41
krenxbreezy09:42
Snake__Its a bug09:42
robotgeekSnake__: no, read this http://robotgeek.org/blog/2006/04/01/firefox-tip-kill-the-rodent/09:42
krenxso, where do i find it09:42
krenx:)09:42
Snake__lol09:42
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Snake__krenx: yea, I think its fixed in dapper, but i havnt seen a fix for breezy, go to /media/ to see all your drives09:43
Snake__robotgeek: ....so? lol09:43
robotgeekSnake__: it doesn't suck :)09:43
Snake__I beg to differ09:44
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XVampireXIs there a package for Bon Echo?09:49
XVampireX(Firefox 2 code name)09:49
Snake__XVampireX: doubt it.09:49
Snake__XVampireX: Unless firefox releases it, dont be to hopeful09:50
krenxSnake__: how do i eject the cd if i cant see it in storage media ?09:50
krenx:)09:50
Snake__krenx: its not in /media/ ???09:50
krenxyes09:50
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krenxbut cant eject it from there, its a map09:50
Snake__>.<09:50
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Snake__krenx: you cant right click eject it eh... hmm09:50
Snake__krenx: I think theres a "eject" command09:50
Snake__krenx: "eject <device here>" ?09:51
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krenxumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy09:52
krenxumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy09:52
krenxim in a middle of a installation and need to insert cd209:52
Snake__krenx: crap >.<09:52
XVampireXOh09:53
Snake__krenx: no ider09:53
XVampireXIsn't firefox = open source?09:53
Snake__XVampireX: yea how come?09:53
troyif you can open a console, type "losf /dev/hdc" replacing hdc with your cdrom drive if it's not hdc...09:53
troythat'll tell you what process has the cdrom locked09:53
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XVampireXWeird09:53
krenxSnake__: doh, ill ask around09:54
Snake__XVampireX: the reason theres no packages is because ubuntu doesnt like to support beta software09:54
troyXVampireX: just means there isn't packages yet09:54
XVampireXYup, noticed that09:54
KanRiNiNHey guys. I'm trying to switch to kubuntu from suse, and am having install problems.  when I boot, even with the acpi off options I get a kernel panic.09:54
KanRiNiNit says to pass an init= option, but I can't find them09:55
smok3_q: a step-by-step guide on how to install kubuntu on my external usb drive (386 version that is)?09:55
troyXVampireX: if you look on ubuntuforums, there may be some user-submitted packages that'll work alright09:55
troyKanRiNiN: does the live-cd boot at all?09:55
krenxSnake__: is there any command to make the cdrom not busy?09:56
krenx=)09:56
Snake__krenx: sudo umount -f /media/cdrom009:56
Snake__may work09:56
KanRiNiNdon't know.  this is the stable 5.10 I believe.  I'm on dialup here, fixing it for my parents, and I dl'ed the iso when I was on broadband @ the university09:56
KanRiNiNis there a page that lists the boot options other than what's on the iso?09:57
KanRiNiNlike the init options?09:57
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Snake__krenx: did that do it?09:57
KanRiNiNlol ok09:58
troyhang on, gotta reload, updates just got installed :)09:58
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KanRiNiNhave there been problems with installing on P2's before?  it has 786 RAM, so I thought it'd install fine09:59
krenxSnake__: trying09:59
krenxnope:10:00
krenxumount2: Device or resource busy10:00
krenxumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy10:00
krenxumount2: Device or resource busy10:00
krenxumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy10:00
Snake__I have no idea then :(10:00
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troybreezy boots so much faster *likes*10:00
Snake__troy: get dapper10:00
Snake__it blows breezy out of the water10:01
Snake__:)10:01
troyerr, actually, I thought dapper, and typed breezy for some reason :/10:01
Snake__Hehe10:01
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krenxkk10:01
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robotgeekapokryphos: i kicked your bot out in #kubuntu-offtopic10:04
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MachineScrewok that worked10:09
smok3_q: a step-by-step guide on how to install kubuntu on my external usb drive (386 version that is)?10:12
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robotgeeksmok3_: there was something on the forums, and even on the wiki10:13
smok3_robotgeek: yeah, but it is unclear if this will support boot on multiple differenr systems or not10:14
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smok3_i guess i need live version10:14
eduardohello, i cannot update my beta 2 after installation10:14
eduardodo you know if there is something wrong with the default configuration of apt?10:15
smok3_bbl10:15
MachineScreweduardo10:16
MachineScrewone sec10:16
eduardothe error message tells me to do apt-setup, but that command is not in my system10:16
eduardook10:16
MachineScrewrun sudo debtags update10:16
MachineScrewin a terminal10:16
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eduardodone10:17
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MachineScrewnot try it10:17
Markus__hello10:17
eduardook, i've only run the command you told me10:17
MachineScrewit will complain about ocet/mime types and no mime types installed ignore it10:17
MachineScrewnow try apdet10:18
MachineScrewthat what I ment10:18
eduardoi'll click on the icon in my tray10:18
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Markus__i have just installed kubuntu and if i try to start the monitor freezes....do anyone of you know this problem?10:19
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rabehello, how can i make kubuntu not rembering the ancient session and restoring it on each startup? (i would prefer a new, fresh session)?10:19
eduardook, it worked, and i got the errors you talked about10:19
MachineScrewya ignore them10:19
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MachineScrewthey have it reported in the bugreports but says it went away after the update10:20
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eduardothanks for your help10:20
MachineScrewnp10:20
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MachineScreweduardo: don't forget to reboot after the update10:21
robotgeekrabe: you have that option in System Settings -> Users -> Session MAnager10:21
eduardook, how can i config the repositories in KDE?10:21
eduardoi don't want it to ask me the CD10:21
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n3stormhi everyone10:22
eduardohi10:22
robotgeekeduardo: just comment out the cdrom line /etc/apt/sources.list (this information is in Kubuntu Desktop Guide)10:22
eduardothx again10:22
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MachineScreweduardo: adept -> Manage Repositories10:25
MachineScrewthen right click on the line for the cdrom and disable it10:26
MachineScrewthen right click on all the lines that begin with deb and enable them10:26
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reagleBRKLNI want to hibernate my desktop, any pointers? `echo -n mem > /sys/power/state` will suspend, but can't then figure out how to wake it up. using breezy.10:37
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ninHerhi all10:42
Joselito_SOADHello10:42
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domihi folks, does it farte ?10:44
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Kevin_Jim-problem !10:53
Kevin_Jim-i clik at the intall icon then i follow every single one of the 7 steps and then nothing !10:53
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Kevin_Jim-...10:55
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kragedos anyone know about a mobile that you easely can syncronise the calender to a kubuntu computer :P10:56
viatorwhattya mean Nothing ? did you reboot10:57
viatorwithout the cd in to see of it worked?10:57
viatoroh well10:57
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bsmhumm, no evtest for ubuntu?11:05
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bsmhm, funny place in dvb-utils11:07
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cenobytei need help i cant see my harddrive in media;/11:09
cenobytemedia:/11:09
jackme ,i have a problem with lirc11:10
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cenobytei would appreciate it if someone hlped me11:12
cenobytehelped*11:12
cenobytei searched the forums and the wiki but had no luck11:13
n3stormcenobyte, try system:/11:14
cenobytei did thne when i checked storage media there is nothing listed11:15
cenobytewhen*11:15
motodashiwhat happens with df ?11:15
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cenobyteany other ideas?11:16
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n3stormlet me check out myself cenobyte11:16
cenobyteok11:17
n3stormcenobyte: sure your harddisk is not listed, mine either XD11:17
cenobyteits not i just did a fresh install of kubuntu and after doing the updates it is no longer listed11:18
n3stormyou must look at "/"11:18
n3stormI think you couldn't see it before11:18
cenobytebut "/" isnt even listed11:18
motodashitype "konqueror /"11:19
n3stormso you write a / at your addressbar in konqueror and nothing appears?11:19
n3stormjust that11:19
n3storm"/"11:19
cenobytehold on let me try that11:19
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cenobytenow it works but it still wont show up in media11:20
cenobytewith the harddrive icon11:20
eduardo!nvidia11:20
ubotuPlease read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia11:20
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n3stormcenobyte:  are you sure you can do that before?11:21
n3stormI think that is not a feature11:21
n3stormyou can't see your harddisk at removable media11:22
n3stormanybody else can say ok to my thought, please?11:22
motodashicenobyte: activate the media:/ protocol :)11:22
cenobyteon my last install i was able to see my harddisk in media:/11:22
cenobytehow do i activate the protocol11:22
motodashiin the settings from konqueror11:23
motodashiin "Apercus and Meta-informations"11:23
motodashiand in "Protocoles locaux"11:24
n3stormmotodashi: you are getting it wrong, sorry11:25
motodashiwell I don't know how it is in english11:25
n3stormmotodashi: can you see your harddisk hda at media:/11:25
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motodashin3storm: yes :)11:25
n3stormyou can see an icon named hda?11:25
cenobytestill cant see the hda icon11:26
motodashin3strom: no I see the partitions sda1 etc11:27
n3stormaha11:27
cenobytewhat does it mean in kinfocenter under partitions if it says defaults,errors=remount-ro11:27
n3stormI am using breezy and you?11:27
cenobytefor my primary harddisk11:27
n3stormcenobyte: it means that if the checker find any errors the system will mount the partition in read only mode11:28
cenobytei am also using breezy badger 5.1011:28
cenobyteoh ok i thought it was something bad11:28
motodashiit does not make sense I think to show hda11:28
n3stormthat's what I thought11:29
n3stormcenobyte you can't see hda11:29
cenobyteno11:29
n3stormyou just can see removable media11:29
n3stormsda at motodashi might be a usb key11:29
cenobyteif i type "/" in konq like u said i can see the contents11:29
cenobyteis it bad that i cant see hda in media:/11:29
wubrgamerhey guys ,important question11:29
n3stormcenobyte: no11:29
cenobyteok11:29
n3stormis the proper way of this to work11:29
cenobytewell thnxs for the help anyway11:30
motodashin3storm _o/*BLAM! no it is my sata hard drive11:30
wubrgamerand if you don't nkow if someone could ask in the ubuntu channel if you don't nkow i'd appreciate (i'm banned , it was my stupid cat who flooded my net, last time i play with voice activation.........)11:30
n3stormmotodashi: I asked this at kde channel11:30
n3storm[23:27]  <n3storm> can somebody confirm you can see an icon of your harddisk hda at media:/11:30
n3storm[23:27]  <n3storm> ?11:30
n3storm[23:27]  --> MrKnibbels se ha unido a este canal. (n=Damien@p5499BA95.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)11:30
n3storm[23:27]  <kimrhh> Sho_: I'll try that, thx11:30
n3storm[23:28]  <thiago> n3storm: no, you shouldn't see it11:30
wubrgameris there a default dhcp server in ubuntu ? that boots on it's own ?11:30
n3storm!dhcp11:30
ubotun3storm: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:30
n3storm!dhcpd11:31
ubotun3storm: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:31
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cenobytethnxs for the help n3storm11:31
n3stormno prob11:31
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wubrgamern3storm, what  ? is that a yes ?11:31
wubrgameri'm not sure and ii'm very much so a n00b11:32
n3stormTry searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:32
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hussamkkathman: hey there!11:37
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matthewnewbie needs help :(11:38
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cuenoI have dapper on my laptop and am trying to get a .deb installed but it was downloaded to my desktop and I can't move it to my PATH, and apt-get doesn't have it listed (amsn) how do I get it to install from /home/<username>/"file".deb?11:39
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motodashidpkg -i file.deb11:40
motodashifor the media:/ thing http://www.flickr.com/photos/61367860%40N00/137085991/11:41
hussamRiddell: is it too late to include kaffeine 0.8.1 in dapper? It's was better than 0.7.111:41
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hussamI mean it's way* better11:42
cuenoThanks motodashi, now I just need to get all the deps taken care of11:43
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cuenoahh man the deps and deps, hmm do I really want it that bad :D11:44
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m5mI've been ripping CDs for days and suddenly my computer freezes.  I press reset (nothing else works) and try grip with another disc (it's done hundreds perfectly) and again, the system goes unresposive: no mouse, no keyboard commands work... hard-reset and I insert cd into my other cd-rom.  What's your guess as to what's wrong with drive #2?  hardware failure?  software bug?  which log should i peek in?11:52
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_sEBAs_!es11:53
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:53
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_sEBAs_hello11:55
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domihi11:56
_sEBAs_somebody can sendme these library that i lost installing KDE 3.5 in Kubuntu 10.511:56
_sEBAs_can you help me please?11:56
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_stevenCan someone tell me how to get the Bittorrent program built into Ubuntu/Kubuntu to work? Mine wont connect.11:57
motodashiwel I think you need Ipot for kubuntu 10.511:57
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motodashihttp://kadreg.free.fr/ipot/11:57
Riddellhussam: yes, it's too late11:57
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dmbkiwi_steven: what about it doesn't work?11:58
_stevenIs there anyway to get Ipot in english instead of french?11:58
apricotwich program for online conversation, please?11:58
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hussamRiddell: ok thanks11:58
apricotlike skype11:58
n3stormapricot: openwengo11:58
dmbkiwiapricot: skype?11:59
_steven<_steven> Can someone tell me how to get the Bittorrent program built into Ubuntu/Kubuntu to work? MINE WONT CONNECT.11:59
_stevenIt doesn't say what it's called. Just bittorrent11:59
apricotgnomemeeting kde?11:59
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dmbkiwi_steven: have you started it?  It's pretty hard to help when you give no information about the symptom12:00
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dmbkiwi_steven: have you tried ktorrent?12:00
apricotskype has a problem with mic, it disables after first call.12:00
_stevenYes. I started it...but it doesn't say a name. Only bittorent and the name of the file. No I havent heard of ktorrent.12:01
dmbkiwiapricot: www.kde-apps.org12:01
n3storm_steven: ktorrent is very nice, I agree with dmbkiwi12:01
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dmbkiwi_steven: it was installed by default on dapper.  it's very nice, although a little slower on the downloads, when compared to azureus12:02
_stevenI have breezy. Because I'm kinda afraid to go dapper. Breezy kept crashing me before and dapper would probably crash as well.12:03

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