[12:05] kimo: do you have a laptop? === juan [n=juan@211-43-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu === juan is now known as seba === seba [n=juan@211-43-112.adsl.terra.cl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:06] fatejudger: yes [12:06] and I move between networks :) [12:07] yeah, isn't it great? [12:07] it's so easy to use [12:07] I dont know how to use it ! [12:07] no more wireless configuration hassles [12:07] It's just disabled here [12:07] ok well [12:07] you probably have stuff in your network/interfaces file [12:07] which is located in === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] "/etc/network/interfaces" [12:08] should I delete it ? [12:08] you need to comment out or erase everything it in except the loopback stuff [12:08] make sure to keep the loopback stuff [12:08] !networkmanager [12:08] it has been said that networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto [12:08] it should tell you there [12:08] in the wiki [12:08] great .. thnx [12:08] yeah [12:08] np === djk_ [n=djk@p54A2E9EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #kubuntu [12:13] downloaded, it, KDapper time === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === venny [n=venny@host165-62.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === kkathman [n=kkathman@pool-72-64-82-112.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === teemu [n=teemu@a84-231-246-229.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@AStrasbourg-251-1-95-96.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [12:24] is there a cmd to see whats using the sound device ? [12:25] lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* [12:25] k thx === helker [n=helker@utz.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #kubuntu [12:25] crimsun: I guess I missed out on the sound card fix, huh [12:25] fatejudger: if and when upstream reworks it. [12:26] lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev [12:26] Output information may be incomplete. [12:26] crimsun: they won't until Edgy [12:26] I'm not going over jcdutton's or takashi's or jaroslav's head on that. === earl_ [n=earl@c-24-147-81-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:26] crimsun: it's already in beta, I doubt there's much they could do anyway [12:26] fatejudger: err, who are you referring to? [12:26] crimsun: the people that fix the audio problems [12:27] fatejudger: upstream or ubuntu? [12:27] crimsun: I have no idea what the problem is or who fixes it [12:27] crimsun: I'm just making a general statement [12:27] fatejudger: ok, then you'll need to see what I wrote above... [12:28] fatejudger: (seeing how I'm largely the person who triages and pushes those fixes in) [12:28] crimsun: you said you weren't going to go over someone's head on that [12:28] fatejudger: yes, jcdutton hasn't had the time or resources to look at it, and I trust his fixes [12:29] I figured as much [12:29] which is why I said that it probably won't get in until Edgy when they ditch the current framework [12:29] by then it won't matter because I'm gonna be using a different sound card [12:29] heh [12:29] that's not necessarily true; it depends whether takashi finds an audigy [12:30] crimsun: I thought it was a problem with just the usb models [12:30] this kind of stuff is insanely difficult to debug remotely. [12:30] fatejudger: how do you debug without the hardware? :) [12:30] true [12:31] so is this an ubuntu-only problem? [12:31] I would have thought the people that run the associated projects would have the means to fix something like this [12:31] no, this is an alsa problem [12:32] so because alsa hasn't released a fix, you guys have to fix it yourselves? [12:32] that's pretty extreme, but if it were that critical, yes. [12:32] just like I had to do for emu10k1 recently. === ep [n=mdr@ip68-97-122-135.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:32] do you guys upload the patches back to ALSA svn? [12:33] s/svn/hg/, and yes === ep [n=mdr@ip68-97-122-135.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:33] Modern heroes [12:33] lol [12:33] sound is a pain in the ass [12:33] and probably the biggest hurdle for linux to overcome, IMO [12:33] nothing seems to work right [12:34] heh, you don't have to tell me. I spend 20-30 hours per week on it. [12:34] fatejudger: It's not the usual way... [12:34] fatejudger> it works perfectly well for most people [12:34] it seems very hacked up [12:34] try WiFi, THAT's a PITA [12:34] especially on the xine end === Lacerta [n=Silakka@dsl-imtgw1-ffffc000-124.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [12:34] even though it works great on my laptop [12:34] xine? heh, xine's arguably got the best alsa support [12:34] sound related things end up crashing all the time [12:35] streaming video or audio through Konqueror works about 3/4ths of the time [12:36] it's like the exceptions aren't being handled in ALSA and get passed back on up to the OS, which terminates all the applications associated with the error [12:36] huh? [12:36] alsa shouldn't be handling application errors [12:36] of course not [12:36] but it should be handling its own exceptions [12:36] as should xine [12:36] but it doesn't [12:36] uh [12:36] and other related apps end up crashing because of it [12:36] do you have actual backtraces for this stuff? [12:37] have you ever tried streaming content through Konqueror? [12:37] no, I don't [12:37] of course, and it works in my cases. I need viable backtraces to do any useful debugging. [12:37] I should though === laszlok [n=laszlo@134.117.187.133] has joined #kubuntu [12:37] it's hit and miss [12:37] I think it has to do with the codecs [12:37] gah. codecs have nothing to do with alsa! [12:37] if xine can't play something, it just crashes [12:37] which is why I just said xine [12:38] if you have actual backtraces from alsa-lib, I need to see tham [12:38] them^ [12:38] it's difficult to get because you end up getting the backtraces from Konqueror, if anything === bleaked [n=bleaked@CPE-70-94-13-227.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu [12:39] that's if you took the time to make sure it would collect the backtrace it if did crash when you start Konqueror [12:39] what it really means is finding something that crashes Konqueror and then getting that URL [12:39] sticking it in something like Kaffeine [12:39] and getting the backtrace there [12:40] well I certainly hope that's being done, because it's pretty darned tootin useless to me to read about vague "alsa complaints" with absolutely no backtrace [and they end up being app errors quite often] ;-) [12:40] I doubt it has anything to do with Konqueror [12:40] file:///home/ym/il duomo.jpg === andred is now known as andre^off [12:41] sorry === stupendo44 [n=stephen@cpe-66-24-113-149.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === codemaster [n=codemast@quantum.rh.rit.edu] has joined #kubuntu === codemaster is now known as Codemaster [12:43] well this isn't good [12:43] I just installed beta 2 and now I can't get any sound [12:44] not even an error [12:44] you know the drill. [12:44] are there any really nice GRUB editing GUI programs for KDE? I know there is the GNOME System Tools for GNOME which contain something like this, but I am unsure of an alternative for KDE === ablyss [n=ablyss@71.81.22.108] has joined #kubuntu [12:45] crimsun: I going to restart before I file any bugs or do anything bug related [12:46] hi, i want to ask a question about which kubuntu to install, i am downloading 5.10 from kubuntu site but i want to know is it better to use 6.06? === saaida [i=saaida@86.125.24.164] has joined #kubuntu === _rosen_ [n=rosen@h36n2fls303o1101.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:47] yes, please test 6.06 beta 2 [12:47] crimsun: where can i download it? [12:48] Guys i need help i need to get back to kubuntu, i started to hate my xp :* [12:48] Kadran: see /topic === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:48] robotgeek: thanks [12:48] crimsun: could you give us a link to a proper procedure to submit bug reports for this beta please? === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] well I figured out what was wrong [12:49] WhyM: file bugs in Malone, per usual [12:49] and I'm not going to admit what it was either [12:49] let's just call it a stupid user error [12:50] fatejudger: that's good enough. [12:50] WhyM: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug [12:50] I'll see if I can't find some of those websites that crash xine [12:50] crimsun: thanks [12:50] Today i tried to remove some packages from kubuntu. it seems that i mistakebly removed the Kde Desktop enviroment. so nex boot it booted and came direct to the Terminal console. i did a reinstall ( even reformated the partitions ) and amazingly the same thing still . [12:51] saaida: you didn't format them [12:51] i deleted the linux partitions. [12:52] and re partitioned [12:52] saaida: well let me ask you this, does it make any sense that after reinstalling you get the exact same error you had before? [12:53] fatejudger : well i didn't format partition number 1 ( xp partition ) maybe the boot info was there and from the first installation the desktop still disabled === Tron04 [i=tron04@xdsl-213-168-120-221.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@1-1-5-27a.has.sth.bostream.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:53] saaida: no, it wasn't [12:54] saaida: you didn't format the partitions [12:54] saaida: that's what happened [12:54] i want to know which one to get the install or live cd? [12:54] saaida: do you know what Occam's razor is? [12:54] no [12:55] saaida: it basically states that the simplest explanation is the most likely [12:55] Kadran: Live install might crash your hdd... you should go with the install version [12:55] :) [12:55] saaida: which is exactly the predicament we have here [12:55] are there any really nice GRUB editing GUI programs for KDE? I know there is the GNOME System Tools for GNOME which contain something like this, but I am unsure of an alternative for KDE [12:55] WhyM: thanks [12:55] Codemaster: we heard you the first time [12:55] Codemaster: maybe you ought to google it? [12:56] fatejudger : So this mean simpliest solution should be tried ? [12:56] saaida: it means you format your partitions next time [12:56] fatejudger : so now i need to re install ? [12:56] I doubt it [12:56] you can install kde again [12:57] just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop === erna [n=erna@e176082104.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:57] fatejudger: I did [12:57] fatejudger: otherwise i wouldn't be here [12:57] Codemaster: well I don't know of any, what exactly do you need to edit? [12:57] Codemaster: and why can't you do it in the CLI? [12:57] fatejudger : maybe i try to run it first since i did reinstall ? [12:58] i mean run it from terminal ? [12:58] i don't exactly enjoy modifying the file by hand [12:58] saaida: yes, run that command from the terminal [12:58] Codemaster: and why do you need to modify it in the first place? [12:58] fatejudger: to add in my WinXP boot option === frank__ [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:00] fatejudger : what is the command to run KDe desktop ? [01:00] well this is quite something, I can play everything EXCEPT mp3s [01:00] same for me [01:02] well I'm switching to gstreamer [01:03] this is total crap [01:03] I've never had such a problem with Xine [01:03] fatejudger : what is the command to run KDe desktop please [01:03] lol, I installed gstreamer and now xine works [01:03] must have installed some codec [01:04] saaida: sudo kdm === kimo_ [n=ahmed@196.202.18.135] has joined #kubuntu [01:04] err:wave:DSDB_MapBuffer Could not map sound device for direct access (Input/output error) <- when trying to launch a game from wine, anyone ? [01:04] :) [01:04] ok Thanx hopefully next time i enter this channel from linux === earl_ [n=earl@c-24-147-81-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === earl_ [n=earl@c-24-147-81-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _rosen_ [n=rosen@h36n2fls303o1101.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === myndmelder [n=myndmeld@ppp-69-229-217-162.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === saaida [i=saaida@86.125.24.164] has joined #kubuntu [01:11] Damn [01:11] Kde is installed [01:11] and running the command : sudo kdm didn't bring anything [01:11] Has anyone used BeeWee's automatiKs in here? [01:12] saaida: should have [01:12] saaida: what about startx === charwood [n=charwood@lnk2-njohnson1-4.binary.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:12] !chroot [01:12] methinks chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 [01:12] what is startx ? [01:12] another command === saaida is linux noob [01:12] you aren't supposed to use it though [01:12] :) [01:12] at least the way Kubuntu is configured [01:12] but it will launch X [01:12] I've been trying to figure out the problem here for several hours. Any suggestions would be appreciated. When I run glxgears I get the error "couldn't find RGB GLX visual". [01:13] This happens with all opengl programs that I run. [01:13] so i should try start kdm ? === fjellrev1 [n=fjellrev@193.90.57.44] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] so i should try 'start kdm' ? [01:14] no [01:14] you should try "startx" [01:14] I don't understand why sudo kdm doesn't work [01:14] does it give any error? [01:14] no [01:15] simply new line in the terminal [01:16] maybe it can be cause i didn't creat a username ? === ep [n=mdr@ip68-97-122-135.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:16] Has anyone used BeeWee's automatiKs in here? I'm having trouble installing it... === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu === djk_ [n=djk@p54A2E9EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu [] === h3sp4wn [n=samw@cpc1-leed5-0-0-cust30.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === theripper [n=therippe@c-68-34-180-54.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === eosyn [i=eo@6532101hfc66.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:19] saaida: it's really difficult to diagnose the problems remotely [01:19] saaida: maybe you ought to just reinstall [01:19] saaida: just make sure you format this time [01:20] fatejudger : i c === Snake___ [n=Snake@adsl-65-43-169-103.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === beast [n=beast@host-73-147-220-24.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:20] ohh and btw i can change later on from kde to another desktop enviroments , right ? [01:21] yup [01:21] you can install multipule enviroments at the same time too [01:21] saaida: yeah, but who'd want to :P [01:22] fatejudger : me . i have slow comp. and there lighter desktop enviroments i can use [01:23] thats why I won't use knetworkmanager (installs half of gnome with it) [01:23] h3sp4wn: I noticed that [01:23] h3sp4wn: it should have to though, they just have the packages messed up === Search4Lancer [n=redphoen@c-68-80-68-232.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:23] h3sp4wn: loading two toolkits at boot sucks [01:23] Hi, I cant configure Konsole anymore. it tells me i'm missing kcm_konsole.la? I don't know when this occured, I have done numerous updates since I last configured konsole. === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #kubuntu [01:24] h3sp4wn: I installed network-manager anyway because the benefits outweighed the disadvantages [01:26] !samba [01:26] samba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html === earl_ [n=earl@c-24-147-81-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:28] any dapper/ATI users on who could help me with setting up fglrx? [01:29] hmm does anyone know the program(s) required for k3b to create audio cds? [01:29] you just want to install the ati drivers or what? [01:29] eosyn, i believe that would be cdrdao [01:30] don't quote me though === frank__ [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:30] i followed one of the howtos [01:30] and currently i can't get DRI to work [01:30] i'm getting the following message in xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13042 [01:31] yea cdrdao is the writer software, that works fine but its the process of creating cdaudio (cda) out of mp3s and then burning them to the cd [01:31] !ati [01:31] I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589 [01:31] Can anyone help me with my missing kcm_konsole.la? [01:32] im new myself , i used the !ati first link to install ati driver and it worked well [01:33] i'm on dapper, though [01:33] me too [01:33] earl_: It theoretically works the same on Dapper. [01:33] also, i'm pretty sure that'll land me with an extremely old driver... === Lacerta [n=Silakka@dsl-imtgw1-ffffc000-124.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [01:34] earl: apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx [01:34] earl_: It will get you the one for Dapper if your source repository is set up that way (it is by default) === Alucard [n=alucard@195.158.205.201] has joined #kubuntu [01:34] allright, i'll give it a shot... [01:35] looks like a needed k3b2-mp3 installed === macroron__ [n=ron@c-67-191-14-212.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _frank [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu === eosyn hugs the invention of forums [01:38] i'm on an AMD Athlon XP, so my $arch is k7 right? === krenx [n=gren@c83-249-112-162.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] earl_: Correct [01:40] this is odd, i never installed this package before, and i'm pretty sure it wasn't even there last time i saw taht wiki page.... === myndmelder [n=myndmeld@ppp-69-229-217-162.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === viator [n=viator@pool-71-161-128-182.spfdma.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === kalenedrael [i=8363-ide@c-24-34-93-227.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === ninHer_ [n=ninHer@215.Red-88-0-77.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === earl_ [n=earl@c-24-147-81-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:52] !ati [01:52] I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589 === Chris_Tucker [n=ChrisTuc@stjhnf01-23-142163031211.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === mo0se [n=mo0se@66-190-218-161.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:55] !firefox [01:56] !firefox1.5 [01:56] You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion === silvan [n=silvan@217-162-239-90.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === justanotheruser is now known as mvv_zZz === NoobSauce [n=mcr@host-244-132.resnet.pdx.edu] has joined #kubuntu [01:58] I'm using kde, but somehow I ended up with a gnome desktop... anyone have ideas on how to fix this? [01:58] the taskbar, window decorations etc... are still kde, but the desktop is gnome for some reason... [02:00] Uhhh... so what do you mean by desktop? [02:00] what the heck... [02:00] it's just the wallpaper part [02:00] when i put in sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.2.tar.gz [02:00] is it suppose to get crazy? [02:00] like when I right click on the desktop, it gives gnome menus and stuff [02:00] not to mention gnome icons and stuff [02:00] jesus... [02:01] it's not that bad I guess, but when I run karamba, all the icons get in the way of stuff which is really annoying [02:01] and you can't turn icons off in gnome's desktop menu [02:02] I've encountered this problem on other systems aswell, so it's not unique to my machine === earl_ [n=earl@c-24-147-81-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] man, i think i've been using the wrong kernel for a really long time [02:04] i've been running a 386 kernel >,< === mr_lampe [n=tho@dslb-084-056-143-124.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:05] I cant configure Konsole anymore. it tells me i'm missing kcm_konsole.la? I don't know when this occured, I have done numerous updates since I last configured konsole. Can someone help me? === yeonhoo [n=yeonhoo@201-35-48-24.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #kubuntu === atiro [n=atiro@69.146.82.97] has joined #kubuntu === tarmath [n=tarmath@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp3497027.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === stodge [n=mike@CPE0080c8289877-CM000039179a5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:08] Hi - how do I know if a WMV file is encoded with DRM? I seem to be unable to play WMV videos with kaffeine === mo0se [n=mo0se@66-190-218-161.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [02:09] why do you have wmv DRM files? just download whatever file that is off a p2p network without the DRM [02:09] No [02:09] you paid for it presumably, so it's ok [02:09] I downloaded a demo of a 3d engine but I can't play it [02:10] oh :P [02:10] I dont do that illegal video download crap [02:10] :) [02:10] well if you paid for it, it's not illegal... [02:10] I installed the codecs as explained on the wiki [02:11] But I still can't play wmvs [02:11] This is kubuntu breezy [02:11] wmv are not playable dude [02:11] theres no linux codec for them [02:11] oh [02:11] I thought there was [02:11] well there is for wmv version 1 and 2 [02:12] but not 3 [02:12] oh [02:12] which is what most wmv vids are encoded in nowadays [02:12] there's a few projects that will come up with a codec for it [02:12] but it's not there yet === SlicerDicer-- [n=Slicer@mail.macceketh.org] has joined #kubuntu [02:14] Well that sucks === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@p54A1AB3C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [02:14] :( === ubuntu is now known as TheDoctor === TheDoctor is now known as TheDoctor666 === SlicerDicer--- [n=Slicer@macceketh.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:18] hmm [02:18] im looking it up and it seems that they can be played with xine and mplayer using windows codecs.. === SlicerDicer--- is now known as SlicerDicer- [02:19] tarmath> not all of them can [02:20] not all of them? [02:21] hmm im finding allot of references about wmv3 support through windows codecs (only for x86) [02:22] oh [02:22] i didnt have the w32codecs package installed... lets see === chowells [n=chris@host-87-75-129-37.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:26] whoa nice it plays! [02:27] hrm I shouldve tried that sooner [02:31] Is there any way to make Xine handle smb:// files? === tarheel [i=WinNT@cpe-071-075-216-136.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:32] Ugly fonts in mplayer === __mikem [n=michael@201-106.124-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:33] <__mikem> hello [02:34] WhyM: the sine engine itself I doubt it, but maybe a kde frontend could do it? [02:35] Wow the demo video for crytek 2 engine is incredible [02:35] PLays with mplayer [02:35] I can view/play a video or an ogg/mp3 file over my lan... :'( [02:35] can't === myndmelder [n=myndmeld@ppp-69-229-217-162.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === myndmelder is still crying... [02:37] <__mikem> whats wrong myndmelder, did you accidently type rm -fr / [02:37] <__mikem> lol [02:38] Anyone know why BeeWee's automatks freezes up... As soon as it decides to start?!? [02:38] And no _mikem not yet [02:38] <__mikem> lol ok === NoobSauce [n=mcr@host-244-132.resnet.pdx.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [02:39] Stupind thing says starting script, and them just sits there with it's thumb up its ass and doesn't do squat... It doesn't even freeze... [02:39] could someone give me web sites for help on learning kubuntu [02:39] <__mikem> !language [02:39] Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen. [02:40] Very well... [02:40] My appologies [02:40] tarheel: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C/index.html [02:41] <__mikem> its alright, hes just an irc bot [02:41] Oh... [02:41] That isn't even BIG Bad word... LOL [02:41] Anyways... Anyone got any ideas... [02:42] <__mikem> you could try running dpkg-reconfigure on the package, that should restore the setup to an error free state [02:43] The original package is long gone, and there hasn't been anything on this computer. It is a fresh install... [02:44] <__mikem> that aint good [02:44] As I said... It just sits there === struct [n=struct@24.244.173.9] has joined #kubuntu === chatboy [n=chatboy@CPE00095bd22d0a-CM00111ae67f78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:46] greetings [02:46] have a problem upgrading to dapper [02:46] libgl1-mesa [02:46] anyone know how to fix? [02:47] !easysources [02:47] chatboy: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ [02:47] <__mikem> !easysource [02:47] For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic [02:47] thanks __mikem [02:48] <__mikem> yw === tarheel [i=WinNT@cpe-071-075-216-136.carolina.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu [] === beast [n=beast@host-73-147-220-24.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu === Cheapy [n=Adm@londonderry-cuda1-68-234-71-44.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === ablyss [n=ablyss@71.81.22.108] has joined #kubuntu === kevin_ [n=kevin@203-206-29-91.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === struct [n=struct@24.244.173.9] has left #kubuntu [] === zeppelin__ [n=zeppelin@201.66.166.237] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu === Kadran [n=Mohammed@196.218.78.225] has joined #Kubuntu === hippie [n=hippie@pc-6-30-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu === winXperts [n=winXpert@pool-72-64-134-147.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:08] !nvu [03:08] hmm... nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring. === orangey [n=orangey@toronto-HSE-ppp4073176.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [03:13] hi all === nomeansyes is now known as wincide === wincide [n=WeReTheC@164.Red-83-33-168.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["AaaAaArrghh!"] === _human_blip_ [n=mike@220.157.65.181] has joined #kubuntu === atiro [n=atiro@69.146.82.97] has joined #kubuntu === admrl [n=admrl@amarok/artist/admrl] has joined #kubuntu === ablyss [n=ablyss@71.81.22.108] has joined #kubuntu === Chris_Tucker [n=ChrisTuc@stjhnf01-23-142163031211.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === Infierno [n=Infierno@201.144.136.243] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu === dom [n=dom@24.85.247.97] has joined #kubuntu [03:38] hi === kevin_ [n=kevin@203-206-29-91.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === kevin_ is now known as mrkev1n === noiesmo [n=noiesmo@CPE-143-238-150-57.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === Seantater [n=sean@cpe-069-132-052-158.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === tadeucruz [n=tadeucru@201.19.136.21] has joined #kubuntu === andre_ is now known as metalhedd === SpecialBuddy [n=matt@24-177-146-14.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:46] does anyone else have a problem turning wireless off === _darksoul [n=darksoul@c-67-183-47-0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:47] <_darksoul> !dapper [03:47] Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :) === visik7 [n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7] has joined #kubuntu === dom [n=dom@24.85.247.97] has joined #kubuntu === mo0se [n=mo0se@66-190-218-161.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] how do i make firefox the default browser? [04:06] here's a thought: why the heck can't I play a DVD in Kaffeine? [04:06] i guess you gotta install something that'll let you... [04:06] try typing dvd in adept or something... === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #kubuntu === mo0se shrug. [04:06] !dvd [04:06] DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras) [04:07] yeah got it working now... [04:07] !firefox1.5 [04:07] You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion === mo0se [n=mo0se@66-190-218-161.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [04:10] apparently I had to restart Kaffeine twice to get it going [04:10] after following the instructions in RestrictedFormats === atiro [n=atiro@69.146.82.97] has left #kubuntu [] === Lurkan [n=agsm@201.152.234.92] has joined #kubuntu === Infierno [n=Infierno@201.144.136.243] has left #kubuntu ["Abandonando"] === _joel [n=joel@adsl-144-101-49.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === dom [n=dom@24.85.247.97] has joined #kubuntu === _joel is now known as zoohouse === nalioth is now known as noirequus [04:20] Kubuntu is going to have a tool that will automaticly update it to Kubuntu 6.05 right? [04:20] How do I know which version of kubuntu I have? [04:22] stevekl: stevekl press ALT + F2 and type help [04:23] Says I got 6.06 [04:23] does that sound right for dapper [04:23] stevekl: you have the new beta ver. then [04:24] ok [04:24] Good! [04:24] Its still beta so you might run into a bug ;) === Snake___ is now known as Snake__ === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu [04:25] ok time to play a little Entropia Universe :D [04:25] anyone has try to upgrade breezy to dapper beta ? [04:25] apt wants to remove half of kde packages [04:26] visik7: I've done it [04:26] and ? [04:26] Well I didn't encounter any big problems [04:26] however [04:26] I did find that dapper needs alot more disk space than breezy did [04:27] But other than that there were no problems [04:28] I had two machines with 5 gig root partitions and that just wasn't enough for dapper [04:28] maybe on clean install would be different [04:29] maybe some older packages are still left? [04:29] 5 gigs sounds way too much [04:29] Well === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [04:30] hwo much was breezy after a clean install, a little more than 3 ? [04:30] Now that I look at it [04:30] Dapper is only taking up 3 gigs [04:30] So, I guess I don't know what i'm talking about :p [04:30] lol ok [04:30] I'm man enough to admit that [04:31] However I DO remember that when I dist-upgraded from breezy, I ran out of space on my 5 gig root parition [04:31] why? I dunno [04:31] sudo aptitude dist-upgrade [04:31] porn [04:31] 1060 packages upgraded, 101 newly installed, 238 to remove and 6 not upgraded. [04:31] 238 [04:31] naw, I keep all my "personal files" on /home and on an external hard drive === tadeucruz [n=tadeucru@201.29.250.184] has joined #kubuntu [04:32] Unless linux is putting porn in some weird place like /var/lib/misc/ or something [04:32] the guy who hacked you box's porn? [04:32] Curses! [04:33] your connection feels slow lately doesnt it [04:33] http://pastebin.com/688080 here it is what it wants to do [04:33] visik7: I think that looks ok but get a second opinion, i've been known to be dumb [04:34] second option ? === krenx [n=gren@c83-249-112-162.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [04:34] forgot about -s -y is just to grep and grab the output for pastebin [04:34] it couldnt possibly be bad man [04:34] 3~er [04:34] second opinion [04:35] !wine [04:35] Wait I did say opinion, you're trying to mess me up === myndmelder [n=myndmeld@ppp-69-229-216-9.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:35] sorry [04:35] hehe [04:36] sokay [04:36] probably this upgrade problems are caused by my folkloristic sources.list === ablyss_ [n=ablyss@71.81.22.108] has joined #kubuntu === _bbeck [n=bbeck@12-201-93-110.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu === WhyM [n=ym@252.169.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [04:38] Damnit, I can't wake on lan my machine [04:38] I got the BIOS set to do it too [04:38] and I got the right MAC address [04:38] hm. [04:39] I guess that can't be a linux problem though [04:39] you got that right [04:40] linux problem ? WON works regardless on the OS u are using [04:40]