[12:08] <LaserJock> hi ajmitch
[12:09] <ajmitch> hello LaserJock
[12:17] <LaserJock> ajmitch: how's your day going?
[12:19] <crimsun> ooh, nice upstream changes in alsa for reducing resource consumption :)
[12:20] <ajmitch> good, how about you?
[12:20] <crimsun> 'lo ajmitch, LaserJock
[12:20] <ajmitch> hey crimsun
[12:20] <LaserJock> ajmitch: ok, was just talking to a potential postdoc employer
[12:20] <LaserJock> but I'm fighting a bit with ssh-agent stuff at the moment
[12:20] <crimsun> g'luck w/ both
[12:21] <crimsun> (may I recommend keychain?)
[12:22] <LaserJock> I've got keychain on my mac, but the one computer I'm having problems with doesn't have it I don't think
[12:22] <LaserJock> and it is the deparment server so I don't have a lot of access
[12:23] <LaserJock> it doesn't have much of anything it seems, I think it is a SuSE box
[12:23] <crimsun> you really only need write access to ~/.ssh, which I hope you have
[12:23] <LaserJock> yes
[12:24] <ajmitch> LaserJock: good luck with that :)
[12:24] <LaserJock> but I've been trying to get ssh-agent to start up when I log in, but it isn't working terribly well. It keeps leaving proccesses behind
[12:24] <ajmitch> so who's going to go to paris in june?
[12:24] <LaserJock> ajmitch: you?
[12:24] <ajmitch> ENOTIME
[12:24] <LaserJock> ENOMONEY
[12:24] <ajmitch> that too :)
[12:25] <LaserJock> I can more or less take off as much as I want, but money is quite tight these days
[12:25] <ajmitch> I've got an exam on the 21st, so no chance of getting away
[12:26] <LaserJock> ah, school is out mid May here
[12:30] <ajmitch> hi bmonty
[12:31] <bmonty> hi MOTUs!
[12:31] <crimsun> hi
[12:32] <LaserJock> hi bmonty
[12:33] <bmonty> how's everything going today?
[12:33] <tseng> bmonty: yo
[12:39] <LaserJock> crimsun: ah, I found keychain. I thought it was a bigger app or something. It is close to what I was doing, just better
[12:47] <cyberix> slomo_: Your package has been linked to. See http://gnunet.org/download.php3
[12:49] <ajmitch> heh
[12:50] <ajmitch> slomo was just the last person to touch it
[01:05] <imbrandon> ls -la
[01:05] <imbrandon> dammit
[01:06] <ajmitch> at least it wasn't a password
[01:06] <imbrandon> heh
[01:07] <imbrandon> heya ajmitch the dh_iconcache needs to go into the "binary-arch: build install" list correct ?
[01:11] <ajmitch> no
[01:11] <bddebian> Heya gang
[01:12] <ajmitch> it goes with the rest of the dh_* calls
[01:12] <ajmitch> hello bddebian
[01:12] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[01:12] <imbrandon> yea
[01:16] <bddebian> ajmitch: You have some time by any chance?
[01:16] <ajmitch> heh, funny man
[01:17] <ajmitch> some
[01:17] <bddebian> I'm trying to figure out where xpm2wico is getting the X11R6 path from
[01:17] <bddebian> It's not an xmkmf package
[01:17] <ajmitch> it still sounds scary
[01:18] <ajmitch> what X11R6 path is it getting?
[01:19] <bddebian> Several
[01:19] <bddebian> I found one place in configure.in but it's still picking it up?
[01:20] <ajmitch> veyr helpful
[01:20] <bddebian> Er configure.ac
[01:20] <ajmitch> build time? run time/
[01:20] <ajmitch> ?
[01:20] <bddebian> autoreconf time.  Still get them in configure
[01:20] <ajmitch> why are you doing autoreconf?
[01:21] <bddebian> Hmm, maybe it's AC_PATH_X?
[01:22] <bddebian> Should I just hammer configure and Makefiles manually instead?
[01:24] <bddebian> ajmitch: Why wouldn't I run autoreconf?
[01:24] <ajmitch> I'm wondering why on earth you need to?
[01:25] <ajmitch> anyway, I'll be back soon
[01:26] <bddebian> OK, laterz
[01:27] <bddebian> Any other takers wanna help my dumb ass?
[01:40] <bddebian> Welcome dolson
[01:41] <dolson> thanks. not sure why all of a sudden I noticed X-Chat wasn't running
[02:32] <LaserJock> hi again bmonty
[02:32] <bmonty> hey LaserJock...may laptop battery died :(
[02:33] <LaserJock> bummer
[02:42] <mgalvin> might i kindly nudge someone to fix some low hanging fruit in anyone is interested
[02:42] <mgalvin> Bug #31728
[02:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 31728 in moin "moin 1.5 should require or suggest python-xml for DocBook rendering" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/31728
[02:43] <crimsun> this one? moin | 1.5.2-1ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources
[02:44] <crimsun> it really should at least Recommends it
[02:44] <crimsun> will have to find a main uploader, though
[02:45] <bmonty> anyone know of any reason why we should keep the euro-support package around? (Malone #41519) Doesn't Ubuntu support the euro character out of the box?
[02:45] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 41519 in euro-support "[UNMETDEPS]  euro-support has unmet dependencies" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/41519
[02:53] <crimsun> bmonty: it does support it ()
[02:54] <bmonty> crimsun: I know, so why have a package to assist with enabling support for it....I'm going to ask it to be removed
[02:54] <bmonty> unless anyone objects
[02:54] <crimsun> what does euro-support give us that isn't already in by default?
[02:54] <LaserJock> crimsun: I think that is bmonty's point
[02:56] <bmonty> I think we are in violent agreement :)
[02:56] <bmonty> crimsun: BTW, how did you generate the euro character?
[02:56] <mgalvin> crimsun: yes... ah right it is in main :-/
[02:59] <crimsun> bmonty: err, I meant that GNOME already supports it
[02:59] <crimsun> bmonty: AltGr+5
[03:00] <bmonty> what does the Gr part mean?
[03:00] <crimsun> System> Preferences> Keyboard> Layout Options> Adding the Eurosign ...
[03:01] <crimsun> it's equivalent to ctrl+alt, according to google://"what is altgr"
[03:01] <bmonty> crimsun: the default dapper supports the euro character so we don't need a package to help out with it...and potentially lead users in the wrong direction
[03:01] <crimsun> bmonty: right, I wasn't disgreeing with you; I just didn't have apt-cache show running, so I wondered if you knew what it added extra
[03:02] <bmonty> crimsun: it adds a script to try printing the euro character with fonts installed on the system, and has packages with depends on font packages that have the euro character
[03:02] <bmonty> all unnecessary for Ubuntu
[03:02] <crimsun> ah, yeah, that can be removed
[03:03] <bmonty> I requested that the archive team remove it
[03:05] <LaserJock> bah, who needs a Euro anyway ;-)
[03:05] <bddebian> hehe
[03:05] <bddebian> Heya slomo_
[03:06] <crimsun> yay for gst0.15 :)
[03:07] <crimsun> gah, 0.10.5
[03:07] <ajmitch> I was going to say... :)
[03:07] <crimsun> I seem to have a problem with '.' and '1' today
[03:08] <LaserJock> I was going to say ..
[03:09] <crimsun> hooray, quod libet plays mpcs correctly again
[03:09] <crimsun> (thanks to fix in gst 0.10.5)
[03:09] <bddebian> W00t
[03:10] <bddebian> crimsun, crimsun, he's our man, if he can't do it, no one can.. Yeah crimsun  :-)
[03:10] <bmonty> Malone #41522, am I on crack or is there no issue here?  The only binary is installable on my system.  Maybe this is a problem on a non-i386?
[03:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 41522 in xffm "[UNMETDEPS]  xffm has unmet dependencies" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/41522
[03:13] <bddebian> bmonty: I've run in to a couple of those.  Have you pulled the source and checked the changelog?
[03:14] <bddebian> I found one or two that were already sent up for buildX s
[03:14] <bmonty> bddebian: yup, nothing interesting there
[03:15] <bddebian> Yeah, xffm4 seems to work for me too
[03:16] <bmonty> ok, thanks bddebian
[03:17] <bddebian> No, thank YOU :-)
[03:18] <imbrandon> any motu's want a cupple diff's for the iconcache i've got done?
[03:20] <bddebian> imbrandon: Sure, shoot
[03:20] <imbrandon> bddebian@ubuntu.com ?
[03:20] <bddebian> Hmm, you can try it
[03:22] <imbrandon> k sent
[03:23] <imbrandon> PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550 <bddebian@ubuntu.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table
[03:23] <LaserJock> heh
[03:24] <bddebian> Figures
[03:24] <bddebian> I get no love
[03:24] <imbrandon> lol
[03:24] <bddebian> imbrandon: bddebian@comcast.net
[03:24] <imbrandon> k one sec
[03:25] <imbrandon> k resent, lemme know and i'll update the wiki when they are uploaded ;)
[03:32] <bddebian> imbrandon: gxine uploaded
[03:32] <imbrandon> k ;)
[03:32] <zul> heylo
[03:32] <imbrandon> 'ello
[03:32] <bddebian> Heya zul
[03:33] <zul> hey bde
[03:33] <zul> doh...bddebian
[03:34] <bddebian> imbrandon: Is j2se supposed to be j2sdk1.4?
[03:34] <imbrandon> yea
[03:34] <imbrandon> err no
[03:35] <imbrandon> j2se1.4-amd64
[03:35] <bddebian> Hmm, I don't see that anywhere
[03:35] <imbrandon> one sec
[03:36] <imbrandon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DhIconCacheChanges
[03:36] <imbrandon> top of univer+multivers list
[03:36] <imbrandon> pool/multiverse/j/j2se1.4-amd64
[03:37] <bddebian> Oh shix, I rpobably don't have multiverse on that box
[03:37] <imbrandon> ;)
[03:38] <bddebian> Ack, 34 freakin' Mb
[03:38] <imbrandon> yea its a bigin
[03:38] <imbrandon> so was -586
[03:38] <imbrandon> but its done and uploaded
[03:38] <imbrandon> ;)
[03:40] <imbrandon> sooo dumb question as i'm semi new to ubuntu ( few months ) how do "I" get to be a motu that can upload ?
[03:42] <bddebian> You keep doing what you're doing :-)
[03:43] <imbrandon> hehe kk
[03:43] <bddebian> Then go to a CC meeting and become a member
[03:43] <bddebian> If they feel you have contributed enough
[03:43] <bddebian> Then work some more
[03:43] <imbrandon> cool
[03:43] <bddebian> Then apply to TB meeting to become MOTU :-)
[03:43] <imbrandon> cc meetings in irc?
[03:43] <bddebian> Yes
[03:43] <imbrandon> cool
[03:49] <bddebian> imbrandon: j2se uploaded
[03:49] <imbrandon> cool, thanks bddebian
[03:49] <bddebian> NP, thank you
[03:49] <imbrandon> i'll have a few more by the end of the evening if your still arround ( if not its all good i'm sure SOMEONE will be awake by there ;P )
[04:04] <LaserJock> ack, how do I get rid of \n ?
[04:06] <bddebian> backspace? :-)
[04:06] <bddebian> Delete key?
[04:07] <imbrandon> mv icewm_1.2.23-3ubuntu1-diff.dsc ../diff/
[04:07] <imbrandon> err yea umm backspace
[04:10] <LaserJock> bddebian: well, I was sort of looking for a more sophisticated (read sed or awk) way to do it
[04:10] <LaserJock> bddebian: but yes, the backspace key was sufficent, just not elegant
[04:11] <imbrandon> s/\n/null
[04:11] <imbrandon> heheh
[04:11] <LaserJock> well, with sed it just put 2 lines together
[04:11] <LaserJock> oh well
[04:14] <zul> bbiab
[04:39] <imbrandon> ok who wants a few more uploads?
[04:40] <chillywilly> lalalala
[04:40] <imbrandon> anyone ? lol
[04:41] <bddebian2> imbrandon: Shoot them to me if I can keep my damn network up long enough
[04:41] <imbrandon> kk
[04:42] <imbrandon> sent
[04:44] <bddebian> Sheesh, now I'm imbrandon's bitch too
[04:44] <bddebian> :-)
[04:44] <imbrandon> hahaha
[04:44] <LaserJock> heh, that's right bddebian
[04:44] <zul> but you do it so well
[04:45] <LaserJock> imbrandon: make you a deal, you get him during the week and I get him on weekends ;-)
[04:45] <imbrandon> hehe kk
[04:46] <imbrandon> sounds fair
[04:46] <imbrandon> lol to us atleaste
[04:46] <bddebian> hmm
[04:47] <bddebian> Somedays I do wonder why I come here.  I can get verbal abuse at home and at work.. ;-P
[04:47] <imbrandon> lol
[04:47] <bmonty> goodnight everyone
[04:47] <bddebian> gnight bmonty
[04:48] <Spec_> how do you get an e-mail @ubuntu.com ?
[04:48] <bddebian> Spec_: You have to be a member
[04:48] <imbrandon> become an ubuntu member
[04:48] <Spec_> i am a member
[04:48] <Spec_> is it automagic?
[04:49] <Spec> (now i look more like a member)
[04:49] <imbrandon> heh
[04:50] <Spec> woah, cool
[04:50] <Spec> dragoncow2@ubuntu.com is me, whee :)
[04:51] <imbrandon> i still need to become a member lol
[04:51] <bddebian> I've been a member since July 2005 and I still don't have a working @ubuntu.com email
[04:51] <imbrandon> heh
[04:51] <imbrandon> i noticed earlier
[04:51] <Spec> i've been a member since two months ago i think
[04:52] <Spec> but as soon as i became a member, i got swamped with non-computer-related-crap, sometimes mistakenly called life
[04:52] <bddebian> imbrandon: Stop picking the freaking big packages will ya? :-)
[04:52] <imbrandon> hehe i'm just going down the list
[04:53] <imbrandon> i think there is only one big package in there
[04:54] <imbrandon> heh i could do kdevelop next ..... j/k
[04:54] <bddebian> You can send that to zul :-)
[04:54] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:55] <imbrandon> i have a local apt mirror here on the lan so it makes it kinda easy
[04:59] <bddebian> imbrandon: OK, all up.  Please check the buildlogs for these as I am not exactly doing thorough package checking on them since they are 1 line changes.  Thanks.
[04:59] <imbrandon> k i have been
[05:00] <imbrandon> yea it will be nice when these are all done ( the dhiconcache ones )
[05:01] <imbrandon> no hobbsee yet tonight
[05:03] <bddebian> Nope
[05:03] <bddebian> Maybe she actually has a life?
[05:03] <imbrandon> hahaha as should i but hell
[05:03] <imbrandon> but it IS friday .... might head out for a beer or two
[05:04] <bddebian> Speaking of which, I need a smoke
[05:06] <imbrandon_> .
[05:38] <bddebian2> Grrr
[06:16] <imbrandon> bddebian, still awake?
[06:17] <imbrandon> err should say connected ( ie network problems )
[06:18] <imbrandon> i got one more for ya, not an iconcache one, and a little more than 1 libe change lol
[06:18] <imbrandon> or zul
[06:20] <bddebian> imbrandon: Yeah, apparently my isp is freaking out tonight :-(
[06:23] <imbrandon> k
[06:24] <imbrandon> bddebian@charter.net ?
[06:25] <bddebian> Aaaahhh for Gods sake
[06:25] <imbrandon> ahh comcast.net , ok sent
[06:26] <imbrandon> this one isnt a big package but its a big patch ( kbfx )
[06:26] <zul> is kbfx in main?
[06:27] <imbrandon> no
[06:27] <imbrandon> universe
[06:31] <imbrandon> patch is from like 4.8rc2 to 4.9.1 + a local fix for ubuntu automake script
[06:31] <imbrandon> thus the size
[06:36] <imbrandon> quite in here tonight
[06:36] <jmg> heh
[06:36] <jmg> anyone know how i could uninstall the dependencies of kubuntu-desktop?
[06:37] <imbrandon> u all of them ? there is a thread on the msg board
[06:39] <jmg> nah
[06:47] <imbrandon> anyluck with patch that bddebian ?
[06:55] <imbrandon> comcast is not liking him tonight ;(
[07:17] <imbrandon> *yawns*
[08:02] <antinobody> Hello folkses
[08:12] <Hobbsee> hey antinobody
[08:14] <ajmitch> hi
[08:15] <antinobody> Hmm... I'm using a laptop that hasn't been upgraded to beta, with apt-get -f upgrade take care of that?
[08:15] <Hobbsee> antinobody: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will
[08:15] <antinobody> (I'm visiting home for the weekend, using brother's comp)
[08:15] <antinobody> thanks
[08:30] <Gloubiboulga> hello pef
[08:30] <pef> Gloubiboulga: salut :)
[08:31] <pef> Gloubiboulga: alors ? dsol pour l'autre soir, minuit ca fait trop tard pour moi en ce moment :)
[08:31] <Gloubiboulga> pef, a y est, j'ai rejoint l'quipe :)
[08:32] <pef> flicitations :] 
[08:32] <Gloubiboulga> merci :)
[08:35] <pef> Gloubiboulga: donc tu serais plutot xfce toi alors ?
[08:35] <Gloubiboulga> pef, oui :)
[08:35] <pef> Gloubiboulga: super, c'est ce qu'il faut pour mettre sur plein de vieilles bcanes
[08:36] <pef> (entre autre, videmment)
[08:37] <Gloubiboulga> c'est l'ide de dpart de xubuntu
[08:37] <Gloubiboulga> mme si on a eu des commentaires du genre "DSL c'est plus rapide"
[08:38] <Gloubiboulga> a apporte un environnement plus lger, avec des lments rcents
[08:40] <pef> Gloubiboulga: mais avec xubuntu tu change juste le desktop ou alors tu vire aussi certains services histoire d'allger le tout ? car sur une vieille bcane, le boot ca prends pas mal de temps aussi
[08:41] <Gloubiboulga> pef, c'est la base ubuntu et tu changes le desktop
[08:41] <Gloubiboulga> y'a pas (encore) de bidouillage dans le systme de base pour rendre le tout encore plus lger
[08:41] <pef> ok, c'est bien ce qui me semblait
[08:48] <imbrandon> heya antinobody Hobbsee
[08:48] <Hobbsee> hi imbrandon
[08:48] <antinobody> heya
[08:49] <imbrandon> got a few of those dhiconcache outa your way
[08:49] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:49] <Hobbsee> oh goody
[08:50] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:54] <antinobody> Did you all know it takes a long time to upgrade a distro?
[08:54] <Hobbsee> hehe...that's why i dont do it terribly often...
[08:55] <antinobody> Hard to avoid if you want to help out
[08:55] <Hobbsee> true
[09:04] <imbrandon> hehe i run a local apt mirror of dapper so it dosent take that long ( almost have to with 10 computers here in the house )
[09:04] <imbrandon> i stil am trying to think of a good/cool use for my p 100mhz laying arround
[09:05] <antinobody> Make a hell of a paper weight
[09:06] <imbrandon> lol
[09:07] <imbrandon> probbly be an irc / email terminal for out in the garage
[09:07] <imbrandon> maybe , duuno yet
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[10:44] <Tonio_> hi
[11:07] <jbeckers> hi
[11:08] <jbeckers> I'm building some checkinstall debs, but they're all trying to install gconf files in the same location
[11:08] <jbeckers> eg: `/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-bg.xml'
[11:08] <jbeckers> which of course is no good :-)
[11:09] <jbeckers> so my question is: what's the policy on these files? include/exclude from packages?
[03:12] <Lathiat> wow someone was smoking some crack
[03:12] <Lathiat> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077&PHPSESSID=09867e8cb99e6c47fd22516ff74666a9
[03:12] <Lathiat> LD_PRELOAD for gtk apps to use the kde file chooser
[03:12] <ajmitch> awesome crack
[03:13] <Lathiat> yes, that is awesome crack
[03:13] <Lathiat> :)
[05:30] <bmonty> hi bddebian
[06:26] <ivoks> anyone uses gnome-ppp? :)
[06:46] <zul> hey
[06:47] <LaserJock> hi zul
[06:47] <zul> hi LaserJock
[09:24] <\sh> moins
[09:27] <Gloubiboulga> hi \sh
[09:59] <sivang> hey \sh , 'sup?
[09:59] <\sh> doing some kubuntu work :)
[10:01] <sivang> \sh: cool, already approved for uploads?
[10:01] <\sh> no...that has time :)
[10:29] <sivang> \sh: good luck anyways. Say, do you know when stuff will start getting out of NEW? :-)
[10:29] <\sh> sivang: when elmo is releasing them :)
[10:31] <sivang> \sh: heh, well I guess I still have to wait for my upbackup crack binaries to come out :)
[10:51] <antinobody> hello peoples
[10:54] <highvoltage> hello!
[10:55] <ajmitch> hi
[10:57] <highvoltage> bddebian: you just mussed the hi! loop :)
[10:57] <bddebian> Heya gang
[10:57] <bddebian> Hi highvoltage :-)
[10:57] <highvoltage> hi bddebian :)
[10:57] <bddebian> Let's see if my isp is still puking on me.. :-(
[10:59] <antinobody> That's an unpleasant metaphor
[11:00] <\sh> moins bddebian
[11:00] <bddebian> \sh!
[11:00] <\sh> bddebian: how is life? :)
[11:01] <bddebian> \sh: Fair to midland.  You?
[11:03] <\sh> going up the hill :)
[11:04] <highvoltage> life... *sigh*
[11:17] <bddebian> Heya imbrandon.  I think I finally have a stable connection again
[11:17] <imbrandon> ;)
[11:18] <imbrandon> i'm cleaning my basement , just hooked up this comp in the basement as a "irc / email gateway" heheh its a 100mhz cyrix 32mb ram with dapper and fluxbox lol
[11:19] <imbrandon> talk about pushing dapper to the limits, but anyhow cool hopefully charter or comcast dosent screw you arround tonight
[11:20] <antinobody> You got dapper runner on that thing?  Nice.
[11:20] <imbrandon> heh yea
[11:21] <imbrandon> root@svr:/files/brandon# uname -a
[11:21] <imbrandon> Linux svr.imbrandon.sytes.net 2.6.15-21
[11:21] <imbrandon> ;)
[11:21] <\sh> re
[11:21] <bddebian> wb \sh
[11:23] <antinobody> Ok, still trying to contribute to the dh_iconcache efforts.  Anyone know how I fix the fact that I have no /usr/share/dpatch folder?  debuild -S is complaining about it
[11:23] <bddebian> Install dpatch? :)
[11:24] <imbrandon> debuild -S -sa ? and install dpatch
[11:24] <antinobody> wow...suddenly I feel slow
[11:24] <crimsun> no, you need to install dpatch first.
[11:24] <bddebian> Heya crimsun
[11:24] <imbrandon> well i dident mean in that order ;)
[11:24] <imbrandon> sorry
[11:24] <crimsun> 'lo bddebian
[11:24] <antinobody> Yeah, bddebian is right, I hdn't done that yet
[11:25] <crimsun> imbrandon: np, that's what happens when I read line-by-line :)
[11:26] <imbrandon> ok guys i got to get a little more cleaning done, i'll be back in a few hours , bddebian did that kbfx patch look ok once you finaly got a stable connection ?
[11:26] <antinobody> Hmm... is there a reason I shouldn't make a new gpg key?  The other one's on a computer 45 miles away
[11:31] <bddebian> imbrandon: WHere did you get kbfx 1.9?
[11:33] <imbrandon> 4.9.1 and i got it from the official kbfx cvs ( savanna )
[11:34] <imbrandon> just had to modify the cvs.sh part of the make becouse it was looking for automake 1.6 and ubuntu uses 1.9 othern than that its a clean cvs checkout
[11:36] <bddebian> imbrandon: OK, that's fine but it would need a UVF exception.  You need to file that on LP
[11:36] <imbrandon> ok
[11:36] <imbrandon> once i get back upstairs i will do that
[11:38] <bddebian> NP
[11:41] <Kyral> Hey, does anyone know a good GTK reference aside from the Tutorial?
[11:42] <Kyral> one of my friends is having trouble with the C Bindings to it