[12:00] <valentyn> biovore: i'll try
[12:00] <biovore> Delaril: just manualy umount everything you can.. then mount root as read-only then type sync then just power off the box
[12:00] <r0xoR> god that's retarded, why doesn't my mouse work anymore?
[12:00] <FennyLAP> doesnt do anything zzz.. I need it so I can install grub from command line
[12:00] <FennyLAP> but I Cant get there from the installation cd
[12:00] <biovore> Delaril: (mount -o remount,ro / )
[12:00] <r0xoR> i've got USB compiled in for sure
[12:00] <gnomefreak> netgeek60: you can use dist-upgrade the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is dist-upgrade will grap kernel updates along with everything else apt-get upgrade doesnt get kernels and some other stuff
[12:01] <r0xoR> i have a /dev/input/mice file
[12:01] <nomad> crimsun: did that, now what?
[12:01] <eck> r0xoR: there are a bunch of different usb systems
[12:01] <gnomefreak> netgeek60: that above is if you leave your sources.list aloone
[12:01] <zzz> ok, but You have a bootod system, or are You in install process?
[12:01] <eck> r0xoR: ehci, uhci, etc.
[12:01] <biovore> r0xoR: /dev/input/mouse <-- got that one?
[12:01] <zzz> FennyLAP: ok, but You have a bootod system, or are You in install process?
[12:01] <soundray> FennyLAP: you have to actually boot it. Hit enter and wait for the first dialog, then try Alt-F3 again
[12:01] <FennyLAP> I have booted my system and it boots from the cd
[12:01] <Delaril> biovore: /media/hdb1: device is busy
[12:01] <FennyLAP> ah.. let me try that
[12:01] <crimsun> nomad: play some music
[12:01] <r0xoR> biovore: no i have /dev/input/mice and /dev/input/mouse0
[12:01] <Delaril> biovore: that's the windows partition
[12:02] <r0xoR> biovore: and i've tried both of them in xorg.conf
[12:02] <zzz> FennyLAP: And what is on your screen now?
[12:02] <nomad> crimsun: lol, i'll do that then :D
[12:02] <eod_punk> Hell all
[12:02] <biovore> Delaril: you have a shell in that directory.. you have something using it.
[12:02] <eod_punk> *hello all
[12:02] <eck> r0xoR: you can test them without starting x by using cat /dev/input/mice and then moving your mouse around
[12:02] <nomad> crimsun: thanks alot, its working great
[12:02] <crimsun> nomad: np
[12:02] <hintswen> how do i set up ftp?
[12:02] <r0xoR> eck: k
[12:02] <biovore> r0xoR: you tried evdev?
[12:02] <FennyLAP> just all blank with a blkinking cursor
[12:03] <r0xoR> ok, no love on cat /dev/input/mice
[12:03] <biovore> Delaril: lsof | grep /media/hdb1
[12:03] <soundray> FennyLAP: try Alt-F2 -- still the same?
[12:03] <Delaril> biovore: oh. well, I seem to learn a bit about how shell works now, at least
[12:03] <r0xoR> it should come out with some funny characters y/n?
[12:03] <r0xoR> moving the mouse did nothing
[12:03] <r0xoR> biovore: no what's evdev?
[12:03] <eck> r0xoR: yeah, you should get funny characters
[12:03] <r0xoR> eck: yeah i've done that before long time ago...
[12:04] <r0xoR> so, no funny characters here
[12:04] <biovore> Delaril: or you can do a safe, but dirty shutdown... just do sync and poweroff
[12:04] <hintswen> how do i set up ftp?(so i can ftp my computer from a different computer)
[12:04] <FennyLAP> anyone know how to see my kernal images from the boot prompt>?
[12:04] <r0xoR> lspci -v | grep HCI
[12:04] <Delaril> biovore: "lsof: can't fopen(/proc/mounts)"
[12:04] <r0xoR> shows OHCI and EHCI
[12:04] <biovore> r0xoR: evdev is a new interface for hardware..  It allows allot of those extra buttons on your mouse to work.
[12:04] <soundray> hintswen: install ftpd. Better yet, use a more modern protocol, like ssh
[12:05] <biovore> Delaril: just sudo sync
[12:05] <r0xoR> ohhhh, crap lol! i did UHCI not OHCI hahaha
[12:05] <soundray> FennyLAP: Hit tab
[12:05] <biovore> Delaril: then hard off
[12:05] <hintswen> i use SSH but i need a way to transfer files from this computer onto my ubuntu
[12:05] <r0xoR> but yet that doesn't explain why my regular PS/2 mouse doesn't work either
[12:05] <zzz> FennyLAP: I bet You cannot. (if You mean what grub gives You after bios).
[12:05] <hintswen> can SSH do that?
[12:05] <r0xoR> anyway, i'll go compile in OHCI
[12:05] <soundray> hintswen: yes, the command is scp
[12:05] <zzz> hintswen: why don' t You use scp?
[12:05] <biovore> hintswen: scp sftp work good
[12:05] <Delaril> biovore: as in, case power button?
[12:05] <biovore> Delaril: yup or reset
[12:05] <eck> hintswen: in gnome, click Places then Connect to server
[12:06] <FennyLAP> does anyone know the kernal name if I am on ubuntu 1.5
[12:06] <earl_> can someone help me setup my ATI fglrx driver 8.24 under dapper? I'm currently getting the following error in Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13039
[12:06] <eod_punk> whats the average install size needed on a partition for Ubuntu?
[12:06] <r0xoR> ok, so i compiled my kernel with the ubuntu-wiki "kernelhowto"
[12:06] <Delaril> biovore: I get error 18 still
[12:06] <r0xoR> now i need to recompile it... where should i do that from?
[12:06] <Hexidigital> sorry about the logging in/out... i keep forgetting i have XChat open when i reboot
[12:06] <Delaril> biovore: after reboot, in grub
[12:06] <biovore> Delaril: dose it drop to a prompt at all?
[12:07] <hintswen> will scp work if it's not networked?
[12:07] <r0xoR> i installed the kernel-source deb that make-kpkg gave me
[12:07] <r0xoR> should i recompile from that folder?
[12:07] <soundray> eod_punk: 1.6309 gigabytes
[12:07] <eod_punk> soundray: thanks I'm downlaoding and going to try a dual boot this weekend
[12:07] <bimberi> hintswen: you can use ssh for that (and it's more secure) - 'sftp address.of.other.box'
[12:08] <soundray> eod_punk: good luck. Come back here if you run into trouble.
[12:08] <eod_punk> hopefully bing on a laptop it won't give me to many problems
[12:08] <r0xoR> bleh
[12:08] <FennyLAP> does anyone know the kernal name if I am on ubuntu 5.10?
[12:08] <r0xoR> no more time to waste
[12:08] <Hexidigital> is firefox announcing when ff2.0 will be available for beta testing?
[12:08] <r0xoR> FennyLAP: uname -a will tel lyou
[12:08] <Delaril> biovore: nope
[12:08] <r0xoR> FennyLAP: and uname -r
[12:08] <soundray> eod_punk: Ideally, get a second laptop for searching the web etc.
[12:08] <biovore> Delaril: well back to the way you were.  1 more thing to check
[12:08] <r0xoR> FennyLAP: should be 2.6.12.9
[12:08] <FennyLAP> im at the boot prompt :\
[12:09] <FennyLAP> I cant uname
[12:09] <r0xoR> FennyLAP: so? why do you need the kernel name?
[12:09] <eod_punk> soundray: I have another PC to use for help
[12:09] <soundray> FennyLAP: what happens if you just hit enter?
[12:09] <r0xoR> FennyLAP: just hit enter
[12:09] <soundray> eod_punk: excellent.
[12:09] <FennyLAP> it says all this loading stuff then goes to install
[12:09] <FennyLAP> it goes to fast to see
[12:09] <r0xoR> FennyLAP: so, what's your point
[12:09] <r0xoR> FennyLAP: why do you need to know
[12:09] <hintswen> bimberi: i tried 'sftp address.of.other.box' and it's just stuck on connecting
[12:09] <soundray> FennyLAP: what happens when it "goes to install"?
[12:09] <eod_punk> soundray: does ubuntu have its own boot loader or us the on that comes with xp?
[12:10] <r0xoR> eod_punk: ubuntu uses grub
[12:10] <FennyLAP> it pops up the choose language screen
[12:10] <soundray> eod_punk: grub is recommended, but you can use XP's in principle.
[12:10] <soundray> FennyLAP: great
[12:10] <eod_punk> is grub the better way to go? (as in less install problems)
[12:10] <r0xoR> FennyLAP: and yet again you don't understand my question
[12:10] <soundray> FennyLAP: What happens now when you Alt-F2?
[12:10] <FennyLAP> I have to install grub to the drive where my linux partition is
[12:10] <r0xoR> FennyLAP: what is your point... why do you *need* to know the kernel version?
[12:10] <soundray> eod_punk: grub is better, yes.
[12:11] <FennyLAP> it is installing to the wrong drive
[12:11] <biovore> grub don't need to be on the same disk as your linux is..
[12:11] <biovore> grub need to be on the hd that get booted first
[12:11] <soundray> FennyLAP: It's not installing at all, unless you continue on that dialog.
[12:11] <r0xoR> FennyLAP: yeah grub just needs to be in the MBR (most of the time)
[12:11] <bimberi> hintswen: can you ssh at the moment?
[12:11] <eod_punk> thanks i'll use it then... one last question will it add a second partion during install or is that needed to be down before hand?
[12:11] <r0xoR> meh, laterz yall
[12:11] <FennyLAP> well it is in the mbr of a pata drive.. not on my sata drive
[12:11] <FennyLAP> and when I set that pata drive to bootable.. then it says error 22
[12:12] <soundray> eod_punk: you should create your partitions as part of the install process.
[12:12] <eck> FennyLAP: are you installing on the slave drive?
[12:12] <soundray> eod_punk: it's pretty obvious as you go through it.
[12:12] <FennyLAP> no.. I have already installed to to a partititon on the sata drive
[12:12] <Delaril> biovore: okay, I'm in shell, and I've mounted /dev/hdb2 as root
[12:12] <FennyLAP> however.. windows keeps booting.. I never see the grub screen
[12:12] <soundray> eod_punk: one more tip: don't do LVM unless you have experience with it.
[12:13] <FennyLAP> until I change the bios to boot the pata drive.. then it says grub errror 22
[12:13] <eod_punk> sounds great thanks for the info everyone.  I don't think its going to be to bad getting it on, i'm just curious whats little issues will arise
[12:13] <biovore> Delaril: sudo grub
[12:13] <eod_punk> soundray: ok I won't
[12:13] <eck> FennyLAP: what I would do is make a LiveCd you can boot from, and then do a grub-install to the master hard drive from that
[12:13] <biovore> Delaril: should drop you into a grub shell
[12:13] <shinu> how do you get information about packs with ubotu?
[12:13] <soundray> eod_punk: occasionally, laptops are a bit finicky.
[12:13] <Delaril> biovore: "error opening terminal: bterm"
[12:13] <FennyLAP> well thats what im trying to do.. get to a prompt to try and install grub to the sata drive
[12:13] <biovore> hmmm something is funky about you setup here..
[12:14] <eck> FennyLAP: do you have a live cd?
[12:14] <soundray> FennyLAP: are you following the wiki instructions?
[12:14] <eod_punk> soundray: Thats kind of what i got the idea about when reading notebookforums.com  but i'm up for a new project and getting tired of windows
[12:14] <FennyLAP> I have knoppix.. might be old though
[12:14] <FennyLAP> and I have the ubunut cd
[12:14] <struct> is there a way to get newer packages for ubuntu stable release?
[12:14] <biovore> Delaril: dose the recovery boot your hd.. or dose it just drop into a shell which you use to mount root?
[12:14] <Delaril> "Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. - Error opening terminal: bterm"
[12:14] <FennyLAP> I actually got to the console from the cd
[12:15] <eck> FennyLAP: ok, then you should be able to do it manually
[12:15] <LinuxJones> struct: you can upgrade to Dapper, it's quite stable right now
[12:15] <eck> FennyLAP: type in grub at the console
[12:15] <hintswen> soundray: how do i install ftpd?
[12:15] <eck> FennyLAP: and it should take you into a grub shell
[12:15] <Delaril> biovore: I get to choose. selected hdb2 as root, then opted to start a shell in /dev/hdb2
[12:15] <FennyLAP> ./bin/sh: grub not found
[12:15] <struct> LinuxJones: just change everything from breezy to dapper in sources.list right?
[12:15] <soundray> eod_punk: it's usually worth checking the web for installation reports on your particular model, even those based on other distributions.
[12:16] <soundray> hintswen: really, if you are using ssh already, you shouldn't bother with ftpd.
[12:16] <biovore> Delaril: ok.. just do a export term="vt100"
[12:16] <LinuxJones> struct: yes then apt-get update  followed by apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:16] <hintswen> ssh is to confising
[12:16] <eod_punk> soundray: i know my sata hard drive doesn't show up with knoppix live cd so i'm curious as how that will turn out
[12:16] <LinuxJones> struct: it will be like a 400 meg download tho :)
[12:16] <eck> FennyLAP: do you want to try doing it from knoppix? I'm not really familiar with the layout of the ubuntu install cd
[12:16] <soundray> hintswen: try 'scp user@remotehost:/home/user/file .' to copy a remote file to the local working dir.
[12:16] <biovore> Delaril: and try again
[12:17] <hintswen> FTP is alow easyer, because the other people that would be putting files in and taking them mout don't even know what ssh is
[12:17] <Delaril> biovore: same error
[12:17] <soundray> eod_punk: do you now the kernel version on your knoppix?
[12:17] <eod_punk> not of the top of my head no
[12:17] <biovore> Delaril: ok.. just do a export TERM="linux"
[12:17] <hintswen> soundray: i need to be able to place a file from my computer onto the ubuntu computer aswell
[12:17] <FennyLAP> eck.... well linux is already installed can I install from the partition it is isntalled?
[12:17] <struct> LinuxJones: broadband
[12:17] <r0xoR> where is the dos2unix package?
[12:18] <soundray> hintswen: the syntax then is 'scp localfile user@remotehost:'
[12:18] <r0xoR> sudo apt-get install dos2unix says it's not found
[12:18] <struct> LinuxJones: 400mb take about 5 minutes
[12:18] <eod_punk> soundray: I know its version 0.1 knoppixSTD
[12:18] <LinuxJones> struct: lovely
[12:18] <eck> FennyLAP: maybe I misunderstand your situation
[12:18] <hintswen> i still reckon ftp is easier though =P
[12:18] <eck> FennyLAP: you install ubuntu but grub doesn't come up, right?
[12:18] <FennyLAP> yes
[12:18] <Delaril> biovore: now I get a grub shell
[12:18] <TeamCanada|Silen> Hel... I mounted my hdb through fstab using the "user" option, but my other account on the box can't access it
[12:18] <rem__> cups prob: LoadDevices: Backend did not respond within 30 seconds!
[12:18] <eck> FennyLAP: ok, so ubuntu is sitting on your hard drive but you can't get to it, so all you need to do is find a way to get grub onto your MBR
[12:18] <Delaril> biovore: just so I understand what I'm doing here... what was the export command for?
[12:19] <biovore> Delaril: ok type root (hd1,0) and see what it dose
[12:19] <rem__> when trying to access in gnome it says it cannot connect to it, but service is running ..
[12:19] <soundray> hintswen: is this for public use? Unprotected exposure to the internet?
[12:19] <FennyLAP> exactly.. I think it is on my mbr but ont he wrong drive
[12:19] <FennyLAP> and it is causing paroblems
[12:19] <FennyLAP> problems
[12:19] <biovore> Delaril: (your terminal was set to a wrong value because you booted from a alien enviroment)
[12:19] <eck> FennyLAP: so if you can get into a grub shell you can specify all that stuff manually and make sure that it is doing it correclty
[12:19] <rem__> found ppl with same prob on google, but no solution .. :(
[12:19] <hintswen> no, it's mainly for people that live here and possibly some others
[12:19] <LinuxJones> rem__: is there anything about .iceauthority permissions ?
[12:19] <FennyLAP> perhaps.. ... I am noobish
[12:20] <soundray> hintswen: behind a firewall?
[12:20] <hintswen> yes
[12:20] <Delaril> biovore: oh. well, I get this message: "system type unknown, partition type 0x7"
[12:20] <struct> LinuxJones: 885MB
[12:20] <biovore> Delaril: ok.. that the windows partion I guess 0x07 is a MS flag
[12:20] <TeamCanada|Silen> I mounted my hdb through fstab using the "user" option, but my other account on the box can't access it. What could be causing this?
[12:20] <rem__> i have that prob sometimes, and i have to chmod it, but when I have that prob i cant even log in gnome ..
[12:20] <eck> FennyLAP: so what you can do is boot off the knoppix cd, and then run grub and ask itself to install itself to the MBR and tell it what partition linux is on
[12:20] <deefzi> what should i do: X won't start but it doesn't give out any errors on the log. (connection gets reset by peer) and i assume that problem is, as dmesg repots, that "sound device 0 went missing" and says "release dev mixer 0"
[12:20] <LinuxJones> struct: ouch
[12:20] <biovore> Delaril: ok type root (hd1,1) and see what it dose
[12:20] <FennyLAP> eck.. tis what I Was thinking
[12:21] <LinuxJones> struct: faster to download the cd and it will upgrade for you :)
[12:21] <deefzi> should i compile or uncompile something from my current kernel?
[12:21] <Delaril> biovore: "no such partition"
[12:21] <hintswen> soundray: yes.
[12:21] <biovore> Delaril: hmm
[12:21] <struct> LinuxJones: I love apt-get
[12:21] <mram> ubuntu 6.06 beta2 is out, what are the changes?
[12:21] <eck> FennyLAP: you can use knoppix, dsl, or the ubuntu live cd -- anything that has grub on it
[12:21] <soundray> hintswen, there is a choice of ftp servers you can install. View them with 'apt-cache search ftpd', install your choice with 'apt-get install wu-ftpd' (where wu-ftpd is an example)
[12:21] <biovore> Delaril: what partion is your /boot directory on?
[12:21] <TeamCanada|Silen> read the change log
[12:21] <FennyLAP> ok
[12:22] <FennyLAP> then install grub from there?
[12:22] <rem__> usually i have that prob, cze .Iceauthority belongs to root group and i have to chmod it or chown it...
[12:22] <struct> 1195 packages upgraded, 191 newly installed, 81 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[12:22] <crimsun> mram: view the Changes section at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000072.html
[12:22] <rem__> but now it belongs to my user ,,.
[12:22] <eck> FennyLAP: exactly
[12:22] <biovore> Delaril: I guess we do the brute force method..  root (hd1,1)
[12:22] <autosuggested> mram: check out #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[12:22] <struct> Need to get 885MB of archives. After unpacking 509MB will be used.
[12:22] <rem__> strange ... !
[12:22] <hintswen> soundray: ok, thanks
[12:22] <eck> FennyLAP: after that when you reboot grub should come up and you should be able to just start up ubuntu
[12:22] <rem__> its rw for my user though so it should work ..
[12:22] <FennyLAP> ok
[12:22] <rem__> does it have yn influence on cups ?
[12:22] <soundray> hintswen: but don't say we haven't warned you... ;)
[12:23] <rem__> any
[12:23] <LinuxJones> deefzi: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select vesa as the video drive and select 1024x768 for your monitor. Leave everything else default unles your sure of it's settings.
[12:23] <deefzi> LinuxJones, uh oh. my video is working just fine
[12:23] <hintswen> soundray: well FTP has user accounts right? isn't that safe enough?
[12:23] <LinuxJones> deefzi: just your sound ?
[12:23] <soundray> hintswen: no, because ftp requires password transfers in cleartext.
[12:23] <deefzi> LinuxJones, yes. this just appeared when i got drivers installed for my soundchip
[12:23] <eck> FennyLAP: the only gotcha is that once you get into ubuntu you might have to reconfigure grub or add the information for windows manually, but both of those are really easy
[12:24] <rem__> I always wondered why .IceAutority belonged to root and not tp the user and why I had to chmod it once in a while to enter gnome ...
[12:24] <Delaril> biovore: how did I check /boot directory again?
[12:24] <deefzi> LinuxJones, maybe if i uncomment everything regarding sound...
[12:24] <biovore> Delaril: well on most ubuntu boxes it the same as /
[12:24] <hintswen> yes but it's not like anyone will be looking over someone's shoulder
[12:24] <soundray> hintswen: more generally, having an ftp port open provides a point of attack.
[12:24] <mike-e> i have a bunch of gnutella connections that persist on reconnecting to my box, even though i killed the gnuetall application. how do i kill all established foreign connections to this computer
[12:24] <LinuxJones> deefzi: what drivers did you install ?
[12:24] <biovore> probably /dev/hdb2 or something
[12:24] <TeamCanada|Silen> hey, can some one please help me with my hdb mount?
[12:24] <hintswen> well then i'll just leave it for people on this network only then, is that safe enough?
[12:25] <deefzi> LinuxJones, oh i forgot: xorg.conf had nothing to do with sounds :I
[12:25] <LinuxJones> heh
[12:25] <deefzi> LinuxJones, nforce2-soundchip binary drivers supplied by nvidia
[12:25] <deefzi> LinuxJones, it says: "Sound device 0" went missing -> "Release dev mixer 0"
[12:25] <LinuxJones> deefzi: ohh, sound was working before tho ?
[12:25] <hintswen> soundray: i i leave the port closed so only people on the network can FTP it, anyone on the network will have the password anyway, that's secure enough right?
[12:25] <soundray> hintswen: no, it's not safe, but you can risk it to the extent that you trust the other people.
[12:26] <Delaril> biovore: it's /dev/hdb2
[12:26] <deefzi> LinuxJones, nuh
[12:26] <biovore> Delaril: what did grub-install say /dev/hdb was?
[12:26] <hintswen> soundray: well the other people don't know anything about linux and they don't even know how to use dos!
[12:26] <rem__> Full reload is required -> what is a full reload for cups ( /etc/init.d/cupsys restart ?)
[12:26] <soundray> hintswen: all the more reason not to trust them ;)
[12:26] <LinuxJones> deefzi: right click the sound icon in taskbar and select preferences, is your card listed ?
[12:26] <biovore> Delaril: grub-install /dev/hdb
[12:27] <slavik> soundray: you ever make a deb package?
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> hintswen : i also add iptables mac filtering
[12:27] <deefzi> LinuxJones, yea as if i could get my X running? :&&
[12:27] <deefzi> LinuxJones, that was the whole problem
[12:27] <hollywoodb> rem__: should work
[12:27] <hintswen> soundray: well i can trust them cause i'll just set up a ftp client, they enter the password and it's as simple as using windows explorer to move files
[12:27] <LinuxJones> deefzi: I thought you said your xserver was running fine
[12:27] <deefzi> LinuxJones, where?
[12:27] <Delaril> biovore: it's (hd0)
[12:27] <biovore> Delaril: ok
[12:27] <deefzi> LinuxJones, well, my mistake if i said so
[12:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> I have hdb1 mounted as /hdb/ with the ro, user, auto options enabled and user "chaos" cannot access /hdb/
[12:27] <soundray> slavik: yes, I made a dummy package once for fun, but I forgot how.
[12:27] <hintswen> lsuactiafner: how do i ad that?
[12:28] <biovore> Delaril: no go back into grub
[12:28] <LinuxJones> deefzi:  >> <deefzi> LinuxJones, uh oh. my video is working just fine
[12:28] <slavik> soundray: I wanted to install latest anjuta2 from cvs and it require gnomebuild 0.1.3 ... latest in CVS is 0.1.2
[12:28] <LinuxJones> deefzi: ^^ thtat's what I'm talking about :D
[12:28] <soundray> hintswen: I didn't know you could do ftp with Windows Explorer -- ?
[12:28] <biovore> Delaril: try root (hd0,1)
[12:28] <deefzi> LinuxJones, it was, before i installed my soundchip-drivers which got my X funked up
[12:29] <hintswen> you can't, it's just as easy as that with a good client though
[12:29] <mram> thanks guys
[12:29] <Delaril> biovore: now it says "system type is reiserfs, partition type 0x83"
[12:29] <biovore> Delaril: bingo!!!
[12:29] <miguel_> hola
[12:29] <rem__> well it restarts fine, but i still cant use cups ..
[12:29] <LinuxJones> deefzi: you'll probably have to re-run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select nvidia or whatever driver it installed, modprobe the driver before startx.
[12:30] <biovore> Delaril: now type setup (hd0)
[12:30] <soundray> slavik: sorry, I have nothing enlightening to contribute.
[12:30] <slavik> soundray: it's ok ...
[12:30] <rem__> LoadDevices: Backend did not respond within 30 seconds! -> cups error log
[12:30] <deefzi> LinuxJones, this has NOTHING TO DO WITH xorg.conf
[12:30] <biovore> Delaril: then reboot
[12:30] <biovore> Delaril: should work now.  (I hope)
[12:30] <deefzi> LinuxJones, it doesn't give any error when i start X
[12:30] <rem__> what is the cups backend ... ?
[12:30] <LinuxJones> deefzi: I thought you just told me your xserver wasn't working ?
[12:30] <lsuactiafner> anyone here use jigdo? anyone here successfully downloaded a complete working iso with it?
[12:31] <deefzi> LinuxJones, i even think it launches, but crashes because my soundsink or something funks up the system
[12:31] <deefzi> LinuxJones, and it stalls
[12:31] <rem__> gnome app ?
[12:31] <hintswen> aah, i tried the 'apt-get install' thing and got 2 errors: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" and "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[12:31] <Delaril> biovore: it's booting
[12:31] <biovore> hintswen: you have another instance of apt running
[12:31] <deefzi> LinuxJones, no it isn't, but my xorg.conf is fine, because it has no references to any sound-settings that might've gotten changed when i installed that soundchip-driver
[12:31] <biovore> Delaril: w00t
[12:31] <ubuntu> hello
[12:31] <hintswen> which means nothing to me
[12:32] <deefzi> LinuxJones, do you want my xorg.conf?
[12:32] <soundray> hintswen: you probably have started synaptic or somesuch process somewhere.
[12:32] <Delaril> biovore: awesome. x starting fine
[12:32] <rem__> hint...make sure apt isnt used, and that u have th rights to use it ..
[12:32] <eck> hintswen: are you running synaptic?
[12:32] <hintswen> unless it's cause other guy is on...
[12:32] <hintswen> oh yeah, synaptic is running
[12:32] <hassan> hello all
[12:32] <eck> hintswen: that would be it :-)
[12:32] <LinuxJones> deefzi: do lsmod and look for your sound driver modules
[12:32] <biovore> hehe
[12:32] <soundray> soundray: you can install via synaptic, of course.
[12:32] <ubuntu> i cant play music
[12:32] <Delaril> biovore: all is good. but I need to stop this from happening...
[12:32] <rem__> i cant print .. :(
[12:32] <rem__> lol
[12:33] <ubuntu> some body helpme??
[12:33] <soundray> ubuntu, get an instrument and practice.
[12:33] <rem__> I can sing for you...can u print for me .. :D
[12:33] <ubuntu> ok
[12:33] <biovore> Delaril: well the reason it stop is eather windows buggers it up.. or the bios changes something..
[12:33] <rem__> lol
[12:33] <LinuxJones> deefzi: are there any in the list that start with snd- ?
[12:33] <ubuntu> ja jajaja
[12:33] <toxic_> Is gdb the right tool for performing a stacktrace for my network ? And how do I save the output to a log as it runs ?   Sometines my internet crashes with an exception and a kernel panic message is omitted, the computers hangs beyond save and I just want to print some stacktrace for later study ..
[12:33] <deefzi> LinuxJones, yes.
[12:33] <rem__> just kiddin...getting frutrated with cups ..
[12:33] <ubuntu> sorry
[12:34] <ubuntu> im mexican
[12:34] <Delaril> biovore: I'm going to reboot and run memtest, check if my RAM is corrupt as someone suggested (it has happened before, with similar errors, but not this hard to fix)
[12:34] <LinuxJones> deefzi: ok do modprobe -r for each module
[12:34] <deefzi> LinuxJones, mpu401, mpu401_uart, rawmidi and seq_device
[12:34] <hintswen> ok, just installed vsftpd, how do i configure it?
[12:34] <hassan> I want install daper beta, is this version installable, i just try that but don't work
[12:34] <deefzi> LinuxJones, but i'm not sure what they're for..
[12:34] <rem__> k laterz
[12:34] <Delaril> biovore: I didn't start windows from the time I installed dapper till the time grub failed
[12:34] <deefzi> LinuxJones, can i see from somewhere what those modules are?
[12:34] <biovore> Delaril: I have the same problem here with my bios changes my drives around if I have a USB device plugged in when I turn the computer on..
[12:34] <Delaril> strange
[12:35] <soundray> hassan: first make sure you try beta 2, then get advice in #ubuntu+1
[12:35] <eck> hintswen: read the documentation?
[12:35] <LinuxJones> deefzi: they are only crappy support modules for things like midi interface, it's safe to remove the modules from the running kernel
[12:35] <hintswen> there's documentation? lol 1 se
[12:35] <deefzi> LinuxJones, or more specifically: what they're for (for what HW)
[12:35] <Delaril> biovore: but still, windows recovery listing my disk with a "unsurpassable problem" or some such has never happened before
[12:35] <etmnt> for some reason when I print nothing happens, even though it detects my printer... howver it worked 2 reformats?
[12:35] <hassan> Delaril I have a solution for you, i had a same problem
[12:35] <deefzi> LinuxJones, those mpu401 thingies too?
[12:35] <fiendskull9> hey
[12:35] <LinuxJones> deefzi: anythinbg with a snd- prefix is for the alsa sound system
[12:35] <fiendskull9> is there any MPG, or divX to DVD encoders?
[12:35] <biovore> Delaril: well I don't deal with windows..
[12:35] <toxic_> How do I perform a stacktrace and log the output immediately ? Is gdb the right program ? My comp hang on some network contact at random times, scenarios with a kernel panic exception/msg.
[12:35] <soundray> hintswen: you usually find documentation in /usr/share/doc/vsftpd, or by entering man vsftpd
[12:36] <etmnt> for some reason when I print nothing happens, even though it detects my printer... howver it worked 2 reformats? How would I fix this?
[12:36] <rem__> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=247111
[12:36] <immolo> fiendskull9, transcode
[12:36] <hintswen> yeah i did man vsftpd :D
[12:36] <fiendskull9> immolo, is it gui?
[12:36] <Delaril> biovore: what I mean is that I think this is a hardware problem =/ someone suggested bad capacitors
[12:36] <LinuxJones> fiendskull9: there is one in developemnt it was on like newsforge or slashdot yesterday
[12:36] <eck> hintswen: normally the documentation in /usr/share/doc is more readable
[12:36] <soundray> etmnt: look for error logs in /var/log/cups/
[12:36] <immolo> fiendskull9, who needs gui when you have google
[12:36] <Delaril> hassan: okay, please, go ahead and tell me =)
[12:36] <biovore> Delaril: could be.. you have a AMD slot A?
[12:36] <LinuxJones> deefzi: yeah
[12:36] <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! I'm apt-getting my ubuntu through a apt-cacher server. On the box where apt-cacher is installed all is ok (the server itself apt-gets through apt-cacher too), but on the clients running apt-get update it gives me this error: Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer) - Any hint?
[12:36] <Delaril> biovore: yup
[12:37] <hintswen> eck: ok thanks
[12:37] <sexyLady> hi
[12:37] <biovore> Delaril: hehe.. yeah.. that was around the time they had a batch of bad CAPS no some asus boards
[12:37] <rem__> tail -f /var/log/cups/error.log see whats goin on ..
[12:37] <Delaril> biovore: I have an asus a7v-333 =0
[12:37] <sexyLady> i need help
[12:37] <etmnt> thanks... looking
[12:38] <biovore> Delaril: My buddy had one of them.. and the cap began to explod on the board on time when he was using it.. lolz
[12:38] <fiendskull9> hey
[12:38] <Delaril> biovore: what's more, I've had this problem for a year or so! but only had to fix it once every couple of months
[12:38] <etmnt> I [28/Apr/2006:18:38:41 -0400]  Adding start banner page "none" to job 19.
[12:38] <etmnt> I [28/Apr/2006:18:38:41 -0400]  Adding end banner page "none" to job 19.
[12:38] <etmnt> I [28/Apr/2006:18:38:41 -0400]  Job 19 queued on 'PSC-1310' by 'dean'.
[12:38] <etmnt> I [28/Apr/2006:18:38:41 -0400]  Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 13411) for job 19.
[12:38] <etmnt> I [28/Apr/2006:18:38:41 -0400]  Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 13412) for job 19.
[12:38] <etmnt> I [28/Apr/2006:18:38:41 -0400]  Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp (PID 13413) for job 19.
[12:38] <etmnt> so far nothing
[12:38] <fiendskull9> VSO divX to DVD is free and works :)
[12:38] <fiendskull9> thyanks
[12:38] <etmnt> sorry for the long thing...heh
[12:38] <LinuxJones> etmnt: pleawse don't paste in the channel
[12:38] <soundray> etmnt: pasting is considered impolite here
[12:39] <etmnt> sorry
[12:39] <etmnt> :/
[12:39] <biovore> etmnt: you install all the ghost-script stuff..  I had this problem with my PSC printer too.
[12:39] <etmnt> ghost-script stuff?
[12:39] <Cathou> hi I need info about upgrading kernel through apt..
[12:39] <biovore> etmnt: apt-get install gs-esp
[12:39] <biovore> etmnt: then restart cups
[12:40] <etmnt> hmm. says it's the newest version
[12:40] <biovore> etmnt: you may also want to look into hpoji for using the scanner and printer in linux.
[12:40] <hassan> delaril, you want use windows and ubuntu? and when you install grub but you show the message : Grub failled, I had a same problem, then I install grub in ubuntu partition NOT in boot section, then in windows i install boot magic, and my problem is resolu :-)
[12:40] <eck> Cathou: what about it?
[12:40] <etmnt> how would I restart cups?
[12:40] <Cathou> well I currently use a 386 kernel..
[12:40] <biovore> etmnt: sudo /etc/init.d/cupys restart
[12:40] <ENE|Toxic> How do I perform a stacktrace and immediately logs the result ? Is gdb the right tool ? My network hangs at random times with a kernel panic interruption/msg
[12:41] <sexyLady> i cant listen music in my computer
[12:41] <LinuxJones> etmnt: /etc/init.d/cupsd restart
[12:41] <biovore> etmnt: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[12:41] <Cathou> and I want to switch to a 686-smp
[12:41] <Delaril> hassan: that's not my problem. it all works, but my boot sector keeps being messed up. this happened with only windows as well
[12:41] <eck> Cathou: just install the 696-smp kernel then
[12:41] <LinuxJones> that's it
[12:41] <eck> 686, rather
[12:41] <Delaril> biovore: haha. I rebooted, now I have grub saying "read error"
[12:41] <etmnt> alright restarted. Should I try printing again, or remove my printer and re-add it?
[12:41] <eck> Cathou: it will be added to grub and be an option when you boot up
[12:41] <Delaril> biovore: seems it's time for this PC to find a final resting place in the trash bin
[12:41] <Cathou> yes but: will not this crash with all the stuff in /etc ?
[12:42] <eck> Cathou: I don't think so... why would it?
[12:42] <Apach> heh
[12:42] <Cathou> Xorg and nvidia glx
[12:42] <Apach> You don't throw a PC in the trash
[12:42] <etmnt> the driver I'm using is hpijs
[12:42] <biovore> Delaril: I chucked my amd 800Mhz slot A a month ago
[12:42] <Apach> All individual peices of hardware can be replaced
[12:42] <TD|Gaute> I've got a Ubuntu Server installation (no GUI). Does anyone
[12:42] <TD|Gaute>                   know of a tool that gives info like for example torsmo in the
[12:42] <TD|Gaute>                   terminal?
[12:42] <Delaril> Apach: figuratively speaking ^^
[12:43] <eck> Cathou: as long as you are not upgrading to 64 bit there shouldn't be any problems
[12:43] <Flannel> TD|Gaute: what's torsmo?
[12:43] <biovore> etmnt: hmmm  have foomatic-db-hpijs installed?
[12:43] <eck> if there are you will still have the i386 kernel installed
[12:43] <eck> and you can boot into that if you have problems
[12:43] <sexyLady> I cant listen to audio files in my computer
[12:43] <etmnt> not sure, should I try apt'ing it
[12:43] <biovore> sexyLady: you mean like mp3's?
[12:43] <sexyLady> yes
[12:43] <biovore> !restricted
[12:43] <sexyLady> mp3
[12:43] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:43] <etmnt> hmm... says I have it installed :(
[12:44] <etmnt> the printer is USB, and lsusb shows it and I can add it, but it doesn't print!
[12:44] <biovore> sexyLady: have to install some packages to get mp3 and some other audio formats working because of licencing retrictions
[12:44] <Cathou> yes I know this eck, done it already with a 386 kernel and all went well
[12:44] <sexyLady> Any format
[12:45] <sexyLady> ?
[12:45] <etmnt> I've posted this on Ubuntu forums, but got no replies (like my other posts asking questions, heh)
[12:45] <biovore> ogg not working?
[12:45] <Cathou> but my nvidia glx driver is not smp compatible
[12:45] <TD|Gaute> Flannel: Torsmo is a small utility that gives you system info on the desktop, kind of like a text-version of gDesklets
[12:45] <Delaril> Apach: I could replace my motherboard, get rid of my huge case and annoying fans... or I might invest a bit more money and get a laptop, which would be better for me. =)
[12:45] <soundray> sexyLady: in System-Preferences-Sound, can you play the sample system sounds?
[12:46] <sexyLady> yes
[12:46] <eck> Cathou: I don't have any experience with glx drivers; you might be able to find some help from someone with more experience
[12:46] <TD|Gaute> Stupid me... "top" gives just what I wanted.
[12:46] <soundray> TD|Gaute: look at top, ps and have a rummage through the /proc filesystem
[12:46] <Linux_Junkie> anyone here have a X-box that don't use there x-box live trail subscription ??
[12:47] <eck> Cathou: that is, assuming that there is a solution
[12:47] <btaylor5619> Can someone help me with an answer to a question?
[12:47] <soundray> !ask
[12:47] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[12:47] <Cathou> ok thanx
[12:47] <TD|Gaute> soundray: Thanks, as you see I just remembered that myself ;-)
[12:47] <biovore> sexyLady: what are you using to play your music?
[12:48] <btaylor5619> I have a floppy disk image, and I want to copy the image to a physical disk.  How do I go about doing that?
[12:48] <sexyLady> totem
[12:48] <biovore> btaylor5619: dd if=image_file of=/dev/fd0
[12:48] <Hexidigital_> anyone know of any decent non-gui web browsers?
[12:48] <biovore> sexyLady: kubuntu?
[12:49] <btaylor5619> !dd
[12:49] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, btaylor5619
[12:49] <ricardo_> oiiiiiiii galera
[12:49] <sexyLady> no is ubuntu
[12:49] <btaylor5619> !info dd
[12:49] <soundray> btaylor5619: you may need to prepend 'sudo' to biovore's suggestion.
[12:49] <soundray> btaylor5619: try 'man dd'
[12:49] <btaylor5619> !man dd
[12:49] <ubotu> btaylor5619: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:49] <soundray> btaylor5619: not the bot, on your system
[12:49] <shadeofgrey> whoa
[12:49] <biovore> sexyLady: I think totem uses gstreamer as its back end.. so let me look up the packages..
[12:49] <shadeofgrey> the newest beta of dapper kicks serious digitized ass
[12:49] <sexyLady> ok
[12:50] <sexyLady>  thanks biovore
[12:50] <shadeofgrey> sexyLady:  system problems?
[12:50] <shadeofgrey> how is everybody tonight
[12:50] <shadeofgrey> its friday
[12:50] <shadeofgrey> pass the vodka damnit
[12:50] <biovore> sexyLady: you have universe and multiverse as trees in your package sources?  (if your confused, I'll walk you though that)
[12:50] <shadeofgrey> you can use totem-xine as well
[12:50] <Hexidigital_> shadeofgrey, i'm excellent... and i see you are the same :)
[12:51] <lutra> AIGLX is in busy
[12:51] <shadeofgrey> hex:  this ius true..  and i havent even started on the purgocets yet
[12:51] <Hexidigital_> shadeofgrey: lol
[12:51] <Cathou> Hexi : lynx.browser.org
[12:51] <shadeofgrey> Hexidigital:  i dont think ive met you yet
[12:52] <Hexidigital_> shadeofgrey, no sir, i don't believe we have met
[12:52] <Steve^> I've mounted a new ext2 partition, but it is only writable by root, how can I change that?
[12:52] <soundray> shadeofgrey, Hexidigital: can I suggest you move it to #ubuntu-offtopic before it gets out of hand and the channel gets busy again? ;)
[12:52] <shadeofgrey> oops
[12:52] <shadeofgrey> busted
[12:52] <shadeofgrey> okay
[12:52] <shadeofgrey> but
[12:52] <Hexidigital_> soundray, my apologies
[12:52] <shadeofgrey> i still say dapper kicks ass
[12:53] <biovore> sexyLady: you can try installing gstreamer0.8-lame should give you mp3 support
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> shes trying to play mp3s in totem?
[12:53] <Apach> use vlc media player
[12:53] <Apach> it doesnt require any codecs
[12:53] <biovore> shadeofgrey: rgr
[12:53] <Apach> as it decodes its self
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> or
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> better
[12:53] <biovore> mplayer
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> use beep media playerr for all your mp3 bneeds
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> its very close to winamp
[12:53] <Apach> I still like vlc media player better ;d its sexy
[12:54] <biovore> or xmms
[12:54] <eck> or mpd :-)
[12:54] <shadeofgrey> its interface blows rancid ardvark nuts though apach
[12:54] <biovore> there are only 1000 of thes edam things
[12:54] <Apach> shadeofgrey, yea but it is powerful
[12:54] <Delaril> hollywoodb: are you here?
[12:54] <Apach> Do any other media players support ASF and WMV9?
[12:54] <hollywoodb> Delaril: aye
[12:54] <Steve^> I don't suppose that there is a player that will use my iTunes config? :P
[12:54] <sexyLady> no
[12:54] <biovore> Apach: mplayer dose
[12:55] <shadeofgrey> uh oh
[12:55] <Apach> I'l check it out, is the newest version in the packages?
[12:55] <shadeofgrey> hes dosing again
[12:55] <shadeofgrey> =)
[12:55] <Delaril> hollywoodb: how long did it take before your DDR chips died on you? that is, before they were corrupted?
[12:55] <biovore> Apach: mplayer package in ubuntu is defective
[12:55] <biovore> (well very out of date)
[12:55] <Apach> damn, apt-get needs some serious work
[12:55] <sexyLady> exists algun program that codifies the audio?
[12:55] <Apach> everything is so out dated
[12:55] <soundray> Steve^, where did you mount your ext2?
[12:55] <shadeofgrey> Apach:  apt-get update
[12:56] <Apach> That wont get the newest things
[12:56] <shadeofgrey> Apach:  apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:56] <Apach> I do that daily and it still lists super out dated packages
[12:56] <hollywoodb> Delaril: not long, I wrecked two chips in about 3 months before caps even started leaking... I had noticed some looked a bit bulged but didn't realize that was the onset of a big problem
[12:56] <biovore> Apach: I built my own mplayer package for use on my boxes here
[12:56] <soundray> Apach: upgrade to dapper. more info in #ubuntu+1
[12:56] <shadeofgrey> but brace yourself..  the initial packages for dapper are pretty big
[12:56] <lutra> anyone know a good website for telling what the different aiglx keys?
[12:56] <Apach> soundray,  what are the advantages of dapper?
[12:56] <lutra> are
[12:57] <shadeofgrey> Apach:  everything!
[12:57] <soundray> Apach: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[12:57] <biovore> Apach: it looks cooler.. other then that.. non...
[12:57] <shadeofgrey> Dapper is the Scarlett Johansen of linux distros
[12:57] <shalos> haha
[12:57] <Delaril> hollywoodb: it's strange, because I'm having all these problems that I had the last time my RAM was corrupted. but I'm running memtest now, after 62% still no sign of bad sectors
[12:57] <eck> what would that make Breezy?
[12:57] <shadeofgrey> uh
[12:58] <biovore> eck: dapper is still in development..  (it has some bugs still)
[12:58] <hollywoodb> Delaril: best option with memtest is to let it run overnight or while at work, or both... I think mine started finding errors around the 9th pass
[12:58] <shadeofgrey> courtney love
[12:58] <soundray> Florence Nightingale
[12:58] <eck> lol
[12:58] <shalos> haha
[12:58] <Hexidigital_> i was thinking Brett Butler
[12:59] <Delaril> hollywoodb: ah. last time, I ran it once. and it got errors from the first % ^^ I guess it was pretty F'd up then!
[12:59] <hollywoodb> Delaril: on the first chip it started finding errors right away... when things seemed a *little* flakey on the 2nd chip it took a long time to find errors, but then came back with a bunch
[12:59] <Apach> How can dapper look better, doesnt all of gnome have a standard look?
[12:59] <shadeofgrey> www.crucial.com
[12:59] <lutra> !xgl
[12:59] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[12:59] <Apach> themes aside
[01:00] <soundray> Apach: download the live CD and find out for yourself.
[01:00] <biovore> Apach: not sure what they have done on the gnome-side.. I  use kubuntu here
[01:00] <eck> Apach: cairo makes Gnome 2.14 very nice to look at
[01:00] <scifi> hi guys, back for another session of techie Q&A , are u ready for it? :D
[01:00] <shalos> it does look really nice
[01:01] <Steve^> I've mounted a new ext2 partition, but it is only writable by root, how can I change that?
[01:01] <soundray> Steve^, where did you mount your ext2?
[01:01] <nandemonai> Greetings people, I have a small issue with firestarter.. I have it setup and working well bar one thing.. samba. I've allowed what ip's I want to have access to our home server and allowed what ports I have servers running on.. Everything seems to work fine bar samba...
[01:01] <Steve^>  /media/hdb1
[01:01] <Delaril> hollywoodb: this thing with the capacitors seems very viable. my board is one of the most affected, it seems. and I had another problem last time, too - my wifi usb device kept turning on and off in regular intervals (1-2 seconds), and when it turned off the whole PC ran 10 times slower. a friend of mine told me it sounded like capacitor failure, but then it was fixed when I got new RAM + reformat
[01:01] <scifi> anway of getting firestarter (firewall) to start when i log into ubuntu ?
[01:01] <soundray> Steve^, sudo chmod a+w /media/hdb1 will make it writable for everyone.
[01:02] <Steve^> thanks
[01:02] <biovore> scifi: firestarter isn't a firewall..  its a tool the sets up the firewall,  see iptables..
[01:02] <nandemonai> I can access anything bar samba unless I stop the firewall browse a share (Then it works) then re-enable the firewall and all works as it should (ie I can now browse the shares at will)
[01:02] <hollywoodb> Delaril: that link I gave you shows what a bulged cap looks like, even a little bulge could be a problem... I think mine went full-on leaky because I had been overclocking and such.
[01:03] <nandemonai> scifi, If you run gnome you can add it to start with your ghome session..
[01:03] <sinbox|again> hi all
[01:03] <shadeofgrey> water cooling is so dangerous
[01:03] <steel_> not really
[01:03] <biovore> yes.. use glycol not water.. works better
[01:03] <scifi> bivore: if thats the case, once ive set it up, i dont need it running all the time ?
[01:03] <steel_> just... dont make your own system
[01:03] <sinbox|again> what do I need to get started with protecting this then? 9as in firewall hacker-proofing things?)
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> as friend of mine spent $11,000 to build a totally water cooled 3d workstation....  the tank broke open after 6 months and dumped its contents all over the inside -- ruined the whole machine
[01:04] <nandemonai> So has anyone run into this samba/firestarter issue?
[01:04] <steel_> wow
[01:04] <biovore> scifi: well you have to tell iptables everytime you start the system what your firewall rules are..  I use a script I wrote that gets run at boot time (before x starts) that uses iptables-restore to load firewall rules into iptables
[01:04] <Apach> heh
[01:04] <Apach> Why on earth would he store the tank inside of the computer?
[01:05] <Apach> That wouldent even achieve proper cooling.
[01:05] <Steve^> soundray, that didn't appear to do anything.. do I need to restart anything?
[01:05] <shadeofgrey> sure it would
[01:05] <Apach> Watercooling systems have an external radiator, at least any worth using
[01:05] <shadeofgrey> if the tank is outside the machine whats the point?
[01:05] <soundray> Steve^, do you mean you still can't write to /media/hdb1 as a regular user?
[01:05] <earl_> can anyone give me a hand with setting up my fglrx driver... i'm getting a very strange error message in my xorg.0.log
[01:05] <Apach> you have to be a fool to put a tank of water directly next to electrical equipment
[01:05] <hollywoodb> Delaril: coincidence probably, but the caps most affected on my board were near the DDR slots, which (probably not coinidence) was where most the MOSFETs were located
[01:05] <Steve^> soundray, nope
[01:06] <scifi> bivore: hmm tbh i have really set-up anything, just wanted it to monitor/defend incoming connections
[01:06] <scifi> havent*
[01:06] <soundray> Steve^, what output do you get from 'ls -l /media/hdb1'?
[01:06] <Delaril> hollywoodb: it's the tallest ones, and the tops should look bulged to some degree?
[01:06] <biovore> scifi: well you know how to use iptables (command line native interface to the firewall system)
[01:06] <earl_> it's giving me a message saying that it couldn't initialize DRI... whatever that is.
[01:07] <hollywoodb> Delaril: tops or sides... ideally they should be as flat & round as a soup can
[01:07] <Steve^> soundray, list of all the folders.. access of "drwxr-xr-x" on all but lost+found, root root
[01:07] <scifi> bivore: so i dont really need firestarted if u se iptables ?
[01:07] <Apach> I miss my ipchains and sockstat
[01:08] <biovore> scifi: I don't use firestarter here
[01:08] <eck> scifi: firestarter is just a frontend to iptables
[01:08] <soundray> Steve^, sorry, trying again: what output do you get from 'ls -ld /media/hdb1'?
[01:08] <biovore> ^ :-)
[01:08] <hollywoodb> Delaril: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=195
[01:08] <Steve^> soundray, drwxrwxrwx  8 steve root 4096 2006-04-28 03:53 /media/hdb1
[01:08] <earl_> no one has any idea?
[01:08] <Apach> MPlayer sure takes awhile to compile.....
[01:09] <soundray> Steve^, have you tried to write to /media/hdb1 or to a directory therein?
[01:09] <biovore> Apach: well mplayer also like to have all the development libs and stuff or else you don't get any support for anything..
[01:09] <biovore> like x264
[01:09] <biovore> Apach: and divx4linux
[01:10] <Apach> Hmm, do you have to install the GUI seperatly?
[01:10] <Apach> Bleh, I'l read the manual hehe, brb.
[01:10] <Steve^> soundray, sorry, it is working now.. thanks :P
[01:10] <Apach> rtfm
[01:10] <biovore> Apach: ./configure --help and read.. also there is as big how to at www.mplayerhq.hu
[01:11] <biovore> Apach: mplayer isn't a simple build..
[01:11] <biovore> Apach: you need to get the latest stuff from cvs..  pre7 is 2 years old..
[01:11] <biovore> Apach: see #mplayer for more details
[01:12] <earl_> can anyone give me a hand?
[01:12] <shizzz> has anyone installed the ndsiwrapper? does it work?
[01:12] <carthik> I am unable to write anything to my external USB HDD right now, it says it is a read-only filesystem. I used to be able to write to it (FAT-32 partition)
[01:12] <carthik> How can I fix this issue?
[01:13] <kingspawn> carthik: have you mounted it with the proper permissions?
[01:13] <carthik> kingspawn, it is automounted, as always.
[01:13] <carthik> kingspawn, the last time i used it it was fine, and now it is not.
[01:13] <biovore> carthik: can root write to the device?
[01:13] <kingspawn> carthik: hm, okay, from an entry in fstab?
[01:13] <Cathou> earl_: DRI stands for Direct Rendering I think
[01:13] <carthik> kingspawn, no, just like with any other usb drive "magic" perhaps?
[01:14] <biovore> DRI -- Direct Rendering Interface
[01:14] <Cathou> but it's all I know
[01:14] <XiXaQ> URL to section about enabling non-free codecs please?
[01:14] <carthik> biovore, no "read only filesystem" says bash
[01:14] <biovore> DRI is a kernel api that allows X to do direct low level stuff to your graphics card..  (aka direct rendering)
[01:14] <kingspawn> carthik: well, does "sudo mount -o remount -t vfat -o umask=0000,dmask=0111 /dev/whatever /mountpoint" work?
[01:14] <scifi> k reading iptables documentatioin
[01:15] <biovore> carthik: hmmm, dose mount say mounted as ro?
[01:15] <earl_> i see... that doesn't explain why i get this message, though: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13042
[01:15] <bangalore> I can't install Amule on my ubuntu is there somebody who can help me with wxwidgets
[01:15] <antinobody> does anyone know why sudo apt-get install <package> times out unless I ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:15] <antinobody> ?
[01:15] <carthik> biovore, mount says type "rw"
[01:15] <carthik> kingspawn, one sec
[01:16] <Steve^> soundray, I'm having issues with this.. I can't paste into some bits.. sometimes I can write, other times not...
[01:16] <{VadeR}> hi.  i replaced the video card and soundcard in my breeezy install and the x server wont start anymore i am wondering if i have to start fresh or not i know its supported natively.
[01:16] <kingspawn> carthik: yeah, the dmask and umask are the important ones just now
[01:16] <linkd> antinobody: that used to happen to me, it was the router resetting my name servers in /etc/resolv.conf, i just changed router, but im told some routers have something in the config to stop the enforcement of nameservers
[01:16] <biovore> carthik: what dose dmesg day about the usb device?
[01:16] <antinobody> linkd: that makes sense, I'll look into it, but I may just wait until I move (this router is through Qwest)
[01:17] <{VadeR}> can i configure X from console to fix ?
[01:17] <shizzz> has anyone installed the ndiswrapper for wireless network cards
[01:17] <antinobody> linkd:  That probably explains most of the other internet problems I've been having
[01:17] <Delaril> hollywoodb: thanks for the links. while I can't see anything bulging or leaking here, I have the exact same symptoms and will try to run memtest the whole day tomorrow. and then we'll see what happens =)
[01:17] <shizzz> im just wondering if it works
[01:17] <XiXaQ> WIKI sais Mp3 is supported? It isn't, is it?
[01:18] <Delaril> biovore: thanks a lot for the kind help earlier! =)
[01:18] <carthik> kingspawn, that doesn't owrk, points me to a mount manpage
[01:18] <linkd> antinobody: yea, i used to have a cron keep reconfig resolv.conf cuz i was lazy to fix the source, but i just changed my router from a dlink to a linksys and it just worked perfect
[01:18] <kingspawn> carthik: with what error?
[01:18] <ruabag> clear
[01:19] <earl_> biovore, do you know anything about that error
[01:19] <biovore> earl_: I use nvidia..
[01:19] <carthik> kingspawn, no error message, there is a "USAGE:" part and then a "Now about Mount" part and then a refer to the manpage part
[01:19] <Cathou> earl_: does the device /dev/dri/card0 exist?
[01:19] <kingspawn> carthik: well, umount it, and drop the -o remount, i noticed we had two -o's
[01:19] <earl_> Cathou: like if i navigate to that folder using konqueror?
[01:20] <Cathou> yes
[01:20] <Cathou> or terminal or whatever
[01:20] <earl_> empty folder.
[01:20] <JayInSAT> greetings
[01:20] <carthik> biovore, right now, there are a lot of FAT invalid access messages, so cant say what it said at mount time
[01:20] <carthik> kingspawn, that I figured :)
[01:21] <biovore> ok
[01:21] <Cathou> you mean dri is empty or card0 is empty?
[01:21] <JayInSAT> greetings
[01:21] <earl_> dri is empty
[01:21] <earl_> i'm assuming that's a problem, but i don't know what to do about it
[01:21] <Bone`> dumb question coming up, what do I need to do/have to run ,package files?
[01:21] <Cathou> that's your prob
[01:22] <biovore> Bone`: .package?  you mean .deb?
[01:22] <earl_> =(
[01:22] <Cathou> the driver can't find card0
[01:22] <JayInSAT> dumb question coming from me as well...I just downloaded the Ubuntu 5.10 ISO...how do I make a boot floppy to install it on my laptop?
[01:22] <carthik> nah, kingspawn, umounting and then mounting gives me the same mount sermon.
[01:22] <Bone`> biovore: for the game lincity the extension just ends in .package
[01:22] <soundray> Steve^: it depends on the permisssions of the actual directory you are writing to (not the parent dirs).
[01:22] <Bone`> lincity-ng that is, I'll find my way to their IRC channel ifn they have one
[01:23] <biovore> Bone`: so a file name.package and see what it says
[01:23] <biovore> (do a)
[01:23] <Steve^> soundray, in fstab, what options do I need to make the entire thing writeable?
[01:23] <Bone`> ? it opens in gedit and gets an error
[01:23] <sinbox|again> JayInSAT: boot from CD
[01:23] <soundray> Steve^, you don't go through fstab.
[01:23] <earl_> Cathou, you have any idea how i could fix that
[01:23] <biovore> Bone`: open a terminal
[01:23] <JayInSAT> can't boot from CD, it's an older laptop with PCMCIA CD
[01:23] <soundray> Steve^, you can do chmod recursively, though.
[01:24] <kingspawn> carthik: eh, are you sure you're doing it right?
[01:24] <soundray> Steve^, sudo chmod -R a+w /media/hdb1
[01:24] <JayInSAT> one of those irritating super-slim Toshibas
[01:24] <biovore> Bone`: the cd into the directory the file exists in.
[01:24] <Steve^> soundray, and when I add a new folder from Windows or wherever, it'll still work? Or i'll need to do that again?
[01:24] <charwood> I've been wrestling with this one for about 8 hours now.  Whenever I try to start an opengl program (like glxgears or glxinfo) I get the error "couldn't find RGB GLX visual"
[01:24] <soundray> Steve^, note that this command treats *every* file and every dir on the filesystem
[01:24] <Bone`> alright
[01:24] <Bone`> there
[01:24] <Cathou> I'm afraid not, I use nvidia too
[01:24] <JayInSAT> (assuming one of my Mandrake/Mandriva boot floppies won't work)
[01:25] <charwood> Google says that lots of people have this problem but it seems for all sorts of different reasons none of which are mine.
[01:25] <carthik> kingspawn, yes. I think the issue is that the last time the drive might have been unplugged before being unmounted, the wire must have sprung loose. I will have to figure out what to do to reclaim the drive etc...
[01:25] <biovore> Bone`: then "file <filebname>"
[01:25] <Cathou> did you install it as a deb package?
[01:25] <biovore> should just print some text out about the file
[01:25] <soundray> Steve^, it will then be writable for the user who did the copying (at least).
[01:25] <earl_> oh... thanks anyway
[01:25] <carthik> kingspawn, searching tells me that in case of errors, the drive is mount read-only but I cant find how to fix it. I would love to not have to reformat 200Gigs of data
[01:25] <francis> hi there
[01:25] <Bone`> "Bourne-Again shell script text executable"
[01:25] <kingspawn> carthik: could try umounting it and fscking it
[01:26] <lsuactiafner> http://www.de.debian.org/dmc/today/ is there a link similar like this for ubuntu, it indicates the status of rsync between all the mirrors
[01:26] <biovore> Bone`: ok..
[01:26] <charwood> It seems like maybe some module isn't installed but I can't figure out what that would be.
[01:26] <carthik> kingspawn, fsck for vfat?
[01:26] <Bone`> thanks Biovore
[01:26] <biovore> Bone`: do a sh ./<filename>
[01:26] <Steve^> soundray, this sounds like alot of hard work..
[01:26] <kingspawn> carthik: hahah, sorry, im getting a bit slow. blame the beer.
[01:26] <biovore> Bone`: might need a sudo infront of that.. not sure..
[01:26] <Bone`> big time thx
[01:26] <michael__> how do i edit my bootloader?
[01:26] <francis> i just plugged the internet on my sleeping ubuntu and updated, and now i got this Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?), but everything is ok, i detects the sound card, i can use the mixer etc
[01:26] <amphi> michael__: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:27] <carthik> kingspawn, I will be beerland soon, hopefully. No probs :)
[01:27] <michael__> thank you
[01:27] <soundray> Steve^, why?
[01:28] <carthik> what kind of a filesystem does not have journalling!!! damn...
[01:28] <francis> carthik: ext2
[01:28] <carthik> kingspawn, biovore thanks for your help -- much appreciated. I will find a way out later, after beer :)
[01:28] <sinbox|again> JayInSAT: dunno then , last time I did one of those instralled mandriva over a network in a super slim vaio, I guess any boot floppy that will let you get the pcmcia Cd tostart and then take it from there
[01:28] <carthik> francis, that was a rhetorical question, but thanks :)
[01:29] <JayInSAT> thanks, sinbox|again
[01:29] <Steve^> soundray, I just want my partition to be readable from Windows and Linux. Linux is giving me the problems with this user stuff. I just want everything to be writable without all this messing around
[01:29] <Flannel> anyone know if its possible to run an IMAP server on a machine on my LAN, and have it get messages from all my mail accounts? (via pop)
[01:29] <Bone`> hey bio, just for future ref, what did that sh command mean exactly?
[01:30] <kingspawn> carthik: always good to get some beer in you first
[01:30] <francis> anyone got a solution for my sudden "not working sound after updating" problem ?
[01:31] <francis> its really weird, i dont know what to do
[01:31] <amphi> Flannel: you could use fetchmail to get mail, and make it available to the LAN via imap or whatever
[01:31] <aluno01> aluno01
[01:31] <soundray> Steve^, Linux is a multiuser system from the ground up. It *has* to have some system for file access permissions. The basic one is very simple and powerful. You will understand, appreciate and use it flexibly in no time.
[01:31] <Flannel> amphi: thanks.  Ill look into that.
[01:32] <amphi> Flannel: you may well find a useful howto at tldp.org
[01:32] <Steve^> soundray, when I am chmodding things, is that actually affecting the files, so Windows see's the changes?
[01:33] <francis> Steve^: windows is like blind, or really need glasses so dont worry
[01:33] <Flannel> amphi: ah, thanks.  Ive been having problems hunting down resources.
[01:33] <blind> Woah
[01:33] <blind> Don't compare me to windows.
[01:33] <soundray> Steve^, I have no knowledge of Windows. You must be using some driver to access ext2 from Windows, so I'd say it depends on that driver.
[01:33] <Steve^> yea, a driver
[01:33] <delcoyote> hi all, have a noob question"running dpkg-reconfigure Postfix" should Postfix be in capital letters? yes or no?
[01:33] <francis> i knew a special windows apps to view reiser and ext3 fs
[01:33] <francis> delcoyote: no
[01:34] <soundray> Steve^, if it's done well, it should have some concept of permissions as well.
[01:34] <francis> delcoyote: debian packaging is always in lower-case
[01:34] <amphi> delcoyote: no
[01:34] <riddlebox> #binrev
[01:34] <riddlebox> oops
[01:34] <delcoyote> thansk a million trying to transalate some docs, francis
[01:34] <francis> delcoyote: ?
[01:34] <amphi> good on yer, delcoyote
[01:35] <delcoyote> told ya i was anoob ;-)
[01:35] <francis> delcoyote: parla frances ?
[01:35] <amphi> delcoyote: that's great, you contribute as you can
[01:35] <delcoyote> non, anglais si vou ple
[01:35] <MisterN> n8
[01:35] <francis> delcoyote: :)
[01:36] <Steve^> Is there nothing in the mounting process that affects read/write permissions?
[01:36] <delcoyote> but i have to learn i wannabe a chef, stuck with my spanish anyway
[01:36] <delcoyote> thanks again
[01:36] <soundray> Steve^, you may be interested in umask
[01:36] <francis> im really disappointed, i just apt-get dist-upgrade and sound is not working anymore, i still can play with the mixer, but Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?), and libao2 is installed ... anyone has an idea?
[01:38] <linav> can i install realPlayer as a plugin for firefox in ubuntu
[01:38] <linav> if so, can anyone please tell me how to do that
[01:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell linav about realplayer
[01:40] <francis> brb
[01:43] <yakuzaortega> alguien me puede ayudar porfis
[01:43] <soundray> yakuzaortega: is that Spanish or Portuguese?
[01:43] <yakuzaortega> espaol
[01:43] <amphi> !es
[01:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:43] <soundray> !es
[01:44] <yakuzaortega> ok gracias
[01:45] <scifi> just listed my packet tables in iptables. way over my head :P
[01:46] <MystaMax> hello i'm looking to understand howto unzip files from the command line. is there a wiki page for this?
[01:46] <amphi> scifi: in some ways, iptables-save output is easier to read than iptables -L
[01:46] <amphi> MystaMax: man unzip ;)
[01:46] <MystaMax> good deal'
[01:46] <MystaMax> thanks
[01:48] <scifi> amphi: atleast i learnt a Little about packets. is there a command to show open/closed ports etc ?
[01:49] <amphi> scifi: sudo netstat -plunt will show what ports have what listening on them, if that's what you mean
[01:49] <amphi> scifi: that has nothing to do with what's firewalled, obviously
[01:50] <biovore> scifi: netstat and iptables --list
[01:50] <francis> ok ive booted the last kernel i used before the update, and now it doesnt say cant find a usable libao, but no music is coming out of the speakers, but i can hear noises when moving my mouse and typing on keyboard... please someone help me
[01:50] <amphi> scifi: try iptables-save - it's output is more complete, and also shows the commands to create the current setup
[01:54] <scifi> ok i can see what lines are accepted, rejected and dropped, but cant interprate what packets these are
[01:55] <axl000> i upgrade dapper, but the kernel is still 2.6.15-19, how can i sitch to 15-21 (he last kernel i guest)?  sorry for my bad english
[01:56] <amphi> scifi: less /etc/services for a list of standard ports and servers
[01:56] <axl000> i upgrade dapper, but the kernel is still 2.6.15-19, how can i sitch to 15-21 (he last kernel i guest)?  sorry for my bad english
[01:56] <muraii> Howdie.
[01:56] <francis> axl000: apt-cache search kernel 2.6.15 then apt-get install the one your looking for
[01:56] <muraii> Anyone have a TNT2 and get weirdness from their OpenGL?
[01:56] <Steff_breezy> hi, how do I get a large transparent workspace switcher as in this screenshot?  http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=140407135640c8970070189&p=screen
[01:57] <muraii> I have the right nVidia driver in my xorg.conf, and the right (legacy) one installed; but it gets just a wee bit flakey.
[01:57] <cavediver> Hi. Anyona using cryptsetup-luks ?
[01:57] <Steff_breezy> Is this a gdesklet? Which one?
[01:58] <muraii> Guess I'll research it later.  I'm heading out.
[01:58] <biovore> Steff_breezy: see superkaramba
[01:58] <biovore> mac bar
[01:58] <Steff_breezy> biovore, isnt that for kde?
[01:58] <biovore> no any window manager
[01:58] <anti__> i have tnt2 muraii, but it works fine here...
[01:58] <anti__> what's going on?
[01:58] <scifi> ok there is a line in iptables that says packets accepted on dport53, but theres nothing listed in services that uses port53
[01:59] <biovore> scifi: 53 is dns..
[01:59] <Steff_breezy> ok, Ill look for it, one moment
[01:59] <biovore> dns is udp.. so you need to leave it open
[01:59] <scifi> k understood
[01:59] <scifi> just trying to account for whats already there before i can begin to ammend the iptable
[01:59] <francis> do someone believe my sound is not working?
[02:00] <francis> or you all think im joking
[02:00] <francis> ;)
[02:00] <francis> well i cant believe it myself i admit
[02:00] <MystaMax> see ya
[02:00] <soe_> could someone help me with a compiler error on dapper? ..  I'm trying to setup a Haugpage PVR150 tvtuner..  here is a log of my error http://pastebin.com/687979   thanks
[02:01] <francis> this is mostly unacceptable with ubuntu
[02:01] <tarvid> what happened to mplayer?
[02:01] <biovore> soe_: you need to install the kernel headers and soruces.. its building a kernel module for your kernel
[02:01] <amphi> soe_: #ubuntu+1 perhaps
[02:02] <Hexidigital> does anyone know how to disable a port (when you dont know what service is using it?)
[02:02] <biovore> tarvid: mpl;ayer still alive a nd kicking
[02:02] <biovore> Hexidigital: block access on that port?
[02:02] <tarvid> apt-cache search mplayer on dapper comes up empty
[02:02] <{VadeR}> when i try to partition my linux hard drive the guided partitioner will show "edit partition table manually" and then it will return me back to the main screen to either go forward or partition.  i cannot edit the partition manually it seems
[02:02] <amphi> Hexidigital: what do you mean, 'disable'? sudo netstat -plunt would show you what's listening on it
[02:02] <scifi> what are the LSO lines in iptable ?
[02:02] <biovore> tarvid: you have mutliverse and universe?
[02:02] <biovore> scifi: LSO?
[02:03] <anti__> hey soe_
[02:03] <Hexidigital> ever heard of "pioneers-meta-~"?
[02:03] <amphi> scifi: 'least significant other'
[02:03] <anti__> do u have linux-sources?
[02:03] <soe_> anti- hey-- yeah, at the end of the pastebin I  ls -al /usr/src
[02:03] <tarvid> biovore, good man multiverse is missing
[02:04] <soe_> I think everything should be setup right
[02:04] <anti__> how did you get that linux-source
[02:04] <biovore> amphi: uh LSO is netmask
[02:04] <soe_> apt-get
[02:05] <amphi> biovore: I wasn't serious
[02:05] <teletubbie> how do I find the bus id of my gf card?
[02:05] <scifi> k cant really interpret enough of the lines to make any decisions about it :P
[02:05] <biovore> amphi: ok
[02:05] <amphi> teletubbie: lscpi
[02:05] <teletubbie> but it doe snot list the vakue in the correct format for xorg.conf
[02:05] <amphi> teletubbie: but you don't need it if you only have one card
[02:05] <anti__> have you already tried to find the file he is not finding by himself?
[02:05] <Xenguy> /a/b
[02:05] <Hexidigital> amphi, thanks for your help... it's a game i installed... (i didnt know i could host games)
[02:05] <Xenguy> oops
[02:06] <edgardpacheco> Hello everybody! how are you all?
[02:07] <scifi> confused :x
[02:07] <Hexidigital> edgardpacheco, miserable... i have to go to work soon :(
[02:07] <tarvid> edgardpacheco, we are doing well I hope
[02:08] <edgardpacheco> that's great to hear :)
[02:08] <edgardpacheco> ;)
[02:08] <tarvid> settling down with a dapper beta install
[02:08] <edgardpacheco> i have a little question... i want to form a linux user group, and it says that i have to announce it on "comp.os.linux.announce" and i don't know what is that... or where is it... anyone knows?
[02:08] <tarvid> 160 MB updates tonight
[02:09] <Hexidigital> an irc channel? or website? do you know which it would be?
[02:09] <Xenguy> edgardpacheco: that would be Usenet/newsgroups, but who says you have to announce it there?
[02:09] <amphi> edgardpacheco: you don't have to; it's a usenet newsgroup
[02:09] <francis> really im impressed by the kind of conversation we have here, compared to #debian, the questions are so basic, but new people seems to learn really fast, ubuntu is really to best for people new to linux
[02:10] <tarvid> edgardpacheco, google groups, you have to sign up and log in to post
[02:10] <Hexidigital> edgardpacheco, when you get it set up, pm me with the address... i'll join
[02:10] <tarvid> ubuntu has a place to list local user groups
[02:10] <francis> i can answer most the questions asked
[02:10] <edgardpacheco> Thanks Hexidigital! :)
[02:10] <edgardpacheco> are you in that google group?
[02:10] <Hexidigital> not yet, edgardpacheco, but i can join
[02:10] <tarvid> ig have a google account which covers that group
[02:11] <francis> but i really have a sound problem i misunderstand myself
[02:11] <tarvid> it is a free Usenet source
[02:11] <tarvid> if you want to post you must log in
[02:11] <Xenguy> ugh
[02:11] <edgardpacheco> bye, take care
[02:12] <francis> ill try with the live cd if there is sound
[02:17] <scifi> hey guys how do i turn num_lock on ?
[02:17] <zzz_> So quiet!
[02:17] <HymnToLife> !numlock
[02:17] <ubotu> numlock is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock
[02:18] <babelfishi> does anyone have a netgear ma111v2 usb adapter here?
[02:18] <majd> is there a cd ripper faster than sound juicer?
[02:18] <majd> it's goin at 4X
[02:18] <HymnToLife> majd> abcde
[02:18] <HymnToLife> but it's command line
[02:20] <eck> what's the difference between /etc/passwd and /etc/passwd-
[02:20] <TokenBad> is there a way to network a windows computer and ubuntu so can share files between them?
[02:21] <tarvid> the second is a backup
[02:21] <tarvid> TokenBad, yes
[02:21] <bigjaws> lame question... whats the syntax to apt-get synaptic...  apt-get install synaptic  ??
[02:21] <TokenBad> tarvid, you have a link that explains it?
[02:21] <tarvid> TokenBad, samba will talk to and share files
[02:22] <NoobSauce> anyone had luck with installing pptp for connecting to windows vpns?
[02:22] <TokenBad> tarvid, is it easy to setup?
[02:22] <babelfishi> does anyone have a netgear ma111v2 usb adapter here?
[02:22] <eck> tarvid: so if i want to disable login from an account by setting the password field to *, then i only need to change /etc/passwd?
[02:22] <chamo> anyone has an idea how to remove a packet in apt that has error when trying to remove it!?!?!
[02:22] <TokenBad> do I just install it on ubuntu or need to install it on both?
[02:22] <NoobSauce> I'm following this: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-debian.phtml#install
[02:22] <tarvid> eck
[02:22] <tarvid> eck, yes
[02:23] <bigjaws> I try apt-get install synaptic but I get E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:23] <bigjaws> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:23] <eck> tarvid: thanks for the help
[02:23] <bigjaws> could it be because I have torrents downloading?
[02:23] <tarvid> TokenBad, I would guess there is a gui utility in Ubuntu somewhere
[02:23] <babelfishi> does anyone have a netgear ma111v2 usb adapter here?
[02:24] <NoobSauce> when I do apt-get install pptp-config, it gives this output:The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[02:24] <NoobSauce>   pptpconfig: Depends: php-pcntl (>= 4.3.7) but it is not installable
[02:24] <NoobSauce>               Depends: php-gtk-pcntl (>= 1.0.0) but it is not installable
[02:24] <tarvid> TokenBad, I use a limited subset with smbfs mount of windows shares so I can back them up on Linuc, that is from Windows to Linux
[02:24] <TokenBad> ok lost me
[02:24] <tarvid> TokenBad, the other way around requires more and samba is the most common choice
[02:25] <tarvid> TokenBad, webmin has a section for setting up samba shares as does swat
[02:25] <scifi> k thx HymtoLife done
[02:25] <crunchyfish> i've downloaded and burned both the 64 bit and 32 bit versions of the ubuntu pc install and tried running each disc 3-4 times and every time the installer freezes at about 70% after the portion where you remove the disc and reboot. is this common?
[02:26] <tarvid> TokenBad, the biggest gotcha in getting things to work is that windows 9x does passwords in the clear, 2000 does encrypted passwords and xp will do either
[02:26] <tarvid> TokenBad, there is a small registry change for 2000 and doing passwords in the clear will work for both 9x and xp
[02:27] <bigjaws> I have A SIMILAR ISSUE.. i CAN SEE THE SHARE, BUT IT ASKS FOR A PASSWORD... nO USER ID AND PASSWORD WORK
[02:27] <bigjaws> OOps...
[02:27] <bigjaws> sorry, my kid is bangin on my keyboard...
[02:27] <babelfishi> does anyone have a netgear ma111v2 usb adapter here?
[02:27] <Mestre_Splinter> Good night guy..
[02:28] <Mestre_Splinter> some one can helpme?
[02:28] <eck> tarvid: do you happen to knwo why some disabled accounts have the password field set to * (namely those whose shell is /bin/sh) and others have it set to ! (those whose shell is /bin/false)
[02:28] <tarvid> which windows are we dealing with 9x, 2000 or xp?
[02:29] <tarvid> eck, no. I am reluctant to hand out shells and set almost all users to /bin/false
[02:29] <Mestre_Splinter> Good night guy..
[02:29] <Mestre_Splinter> some one can helpme?
[02:30] <bigjaws> Can anyone tell me how to get past authentication from XP to my ubuntu box?  No login/PW seem to work...
[02:30] <eck> tarvid: this is on a single user system; i just noticed some users (e.g. man) have a shell and others (e.g. syslog) have their shell set to /bin/false
[02:30] <polpak> !tell Mestre_Splinter about justask
[02:30] <NoobSauce> Mestre_splinter help you with what?
[02:30] <amphi> eck: don't set your shell to /bin/false ;)
[02:30] <tarvid> eck, just a difference in preference of package maintainers
[02:31] <eck> amphi: it would significantly increase the security of my system :-)
[02:31] <Mestre_Splinter> [polpak] : My ps/2 mouse is not working... When start the Xmode the laser of the mouse just fade out
[02:31] <amphi> eck: heh
[02:32] <babelfishi> does anyone have a netgear ma111v2 usb adapter here?
[02:32] <NoobSauce> babelfishi I don't. I doubt anyone here does either
[02:32] <tarvid> Mestre_Splinter, i'm too poor to buy an optical, all my mice seem to work, why not try a different mouse
[02:32] <unity> does anyone know how to make thunderbird export all mail to an mbox file?
[02:33] <harisund> back
[02:33] <sinbox> night all
[02:33] <Mestre_Splinter> [tarvid] : because i dont have other mouse
[02:33] <TokenBad> tarvid, yeah this is a 98 machine
[02:33] <TokenBad> with ubuntu
[02:33] <harisund> Do any of you have any experience running a home webserver? My ISP blocks port 25.. so I was wondering whether I could use postfix for merely sending out email and not receiving them ......
[02:33] <TokenBad> well the other machine is ubuntu
[02:34] <Mestre_Splinter> I read in some place, that is a karnel 2.6.x BUG
[02:34] <NoobSauce> I'm running kde, but for some reason, my background is set with gnome. Does anyone know how to fix this? I am running gnome apps, which seems to trigger it to go from kde to gnome
[02:34] <tarvid> TokenBad, do you mean a dual boot, if these are two separate machines set passwords to clear in samba
[02:34] <TokenBad> yeah 2 different machines...
[02:34] <TokenBad> but know nothing about samba
[02:34] <NoobSauce> this is really annoying because I can't turn icons off in gnome, and I have a whole bunch of karamba stuff on my desktop that it's getting in the way of
[02:34] <tarvid> TokenBad, just noticed a file sharing item under system administration
[02:35] <tarvid> TokenBad, install samba, webmin, webmin core and see if webmin will give gui access to you samba mounts, do set passwords to clear text
[02:35] <sinbox|again> night
[02:37] <kbrooks> !info mplayer breezy
[02:37] <kbrooks> !info mplayer-386 breezy
[02:37] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3568 kB, Installed size: 8132 kB
[02:37] <kbrooks> !info mplayer-386 warty
[02:38] <unity> pre7 is old
[02:39] <crimsun> !info mplayer dapper
[02:39] <ubotu> mplayer: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu6 (dapper), Packaged size: 3264 kB, Installed size: 7912 kB
[02:39] <roy__> how can i get ubuntu to play mi9di files
[02:40] <biovore> roy__: linux and midi is kinda of a pain..
[02:41] <unity> !midi
[02:41] <ubotu> well, midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[02:42] <unity> roy__: software synth is not hard, but if you don't have a soundblaster, then hardware midi is a pain in the ass
[02:43] <unity> never seen #ubuntu so quiet
[02:43] <mdke> hiya.
[02:43] <eck> are shadow passwords turned off by default?
[02:44] <roy__> i have a soundblaster
[02:44] <unity> roy__: and getting hardware midi will still maybe be a pain in the ass
[02:44] <kbrooks> eck: uh, maybe. maybe not.
[02:44] <mdke> I'm thinking that I might like to start hosting my own blog, rather than using blogspot. Does anyone recommend any particular software? I'd rather it was pretty simple, and avoid mysql and so on. Any ideas?
[02:44] <unity> roy__: midi is one of the fev things linux has big problems in
[02:44] <mdke> (easy to install pls, or with docs)
[02:44] <eck> kbrooks: i don't have a /etc/shadow, and i see a bunch of random characters in my /etc/passwd in my password field
[02:44] <scifi> there seems to be alot of applications in the ubuntu "add applications" list designed specifically for KDE, why is that considering ubuntus default install is gnome ?
[02:45] <tarvid> mdke, me too
[02:45] <mdke> scifi: as many applications are available to give you choice
[02:45] <kbrooks> mdke: wordpress
[02:45] <unity> scifi: because gnome doesn't have everything, and because some people would like to run kde apps on gnome
[02:45] <eck> kbrooks: but i did a bootstrap install, so some things on my system are kind of weird
[02:45] <mdke> kbrooks: wordpress uses mysql.
[02:45] <kbrooks> i use wordpress
[02:45] <eod_punk> hello all
[02:45] <kbrooks> mdke: maybe typo? but thats ruby
[02:46] <scifi> so KDE apps run ok on gnome ?
[02:46] <unity> scifi: like konqueror is a lot better file brower than nautilus in my opinion
[02:46] <mdke> scifi: sure
[02:46] <unity> scifi: yep.
[02:46] <kbrooks> scifi: yes. all xfce apps run ok on kde
[02:46] <kbrooks> and vice versa
[02:46] <kbrooks> all gnome apps run ok on kde
[02:46] <raptros-v76> amarok?
[02:46] <raptros-v76> how about that?
[02:46] <akonkwa> Does anyone know how I can read wmv files with ubuntu (breezy)?
[02:46] <roy__> i like the sound of linux on my soundcard
[02:47] <roy__> and i do a lot of midi
[02:47] <unity> scifi: when you run a kde program, a lot of kde starts up in the background. everything but the panel, and the wm, and a couple of stuff like that
[02:47] <tokenbad_> ok am on my linux box now tarvid..have webmin and samba and the webmin core installed but not understand what to do now
[02:47] <kbrooks> raptros-v76: and your point is?
[02:47] <eod_punk> so now that i have ubuntu installed, now what? lol
[02:47] <unity> eod_punk: start writing native ports of various windows games
[02:47] <kbrooks> eod_punk: well, i suggest EasyUbuntu :-)
[02:47] <unity> eod_punk: and show them that linux can run em all better
[02:47] <kbrooks> unity: no - :-)
[02:47] <kbrooks> unity: we all can do that
[02:48] <eod_punk> unity: nice, think i'm still alittle new to that
[02:48] <amphi> eod_punk: or do something useful ;)
[02:48] <kbrooks> eod_punk: don't do it
[02:48] <scifi> lol unity, write me a linux CS please :P
[02:48] <kbrooks> scifi: um...
[02:48] <eod_punk> or am i just supposed to roam the net not worrying about most virus's?
[02:48] <unity> scifi: i'm gonna start with tetris attack, a game from snes
[02:48] <raptros-v76> eod_punk: do what i do. learn
[02:48] <eod_punk> bad joke sorry
[02:48] <kbrooks> eod_punk: linux is secure
[02:48] <kbrooks> eod_punk: er, ubuntu
[02:48] <scifi> hmmm :P
[02:48] <kbrooks> not "linux"
[02:48] <unity> scifi: and then, next on the list is starcraft
[02:49] <akonkwa> Does anyone know how I can read wmv files with ubuntu (breezy)?
[02:49] <unity> !w32codecs
[02:49] <vertigo> i need some help with my wireless setup
[02:49] <eod_punk> it seams most of my hardware was recognized, got to look into my wifi though
[02:49] <vertigo> any takers?
[02:49] <__mikem> very few viruses are writen for linux and a majority of them are based on buffer over run exploits
[02:49] <eck> eod_punk: try network manager
[02:49] <unity> ubotu tell akonkwa about w32codecs
[02:49] <raptros-v76> vertigo: ok
[02:49] <amphi> vertigo: could you be more vague?
[02:49] <kbrooks> __mikem: dont tell him that junk
[02:50] <__mikem> Why?
[02:50] <odyssey12386> hello
[02:50] <odyssey12386> i cant install amsn
[02:50] <eck> eod_punk: the package for it is network-manager-gnome in dapper
[02:50] <unity> kbrooks: i still don't see why you are against writing games for linux
[02:50] <__mikem> wow, against writing games for linux, wheres the logic behind that
[02:51] <raptros-v76> yeah, i mean seriously, freee games for linux would destroy microsofts franchise much more rapidly, allowing computer advancements to go even further
[02:51] <vertigo> i have a toshiba satelitte l25 and the wireless is not working
[02:51] <unity> __mikem: is that sarcasm?
[02:51] <kbrooks> unity: i'm not
[02:51] <eod_punk> I think i'll have to fiddle with getting the rest of this working tomorrow, iI can hear my girlfriend complaining that i'm on the computer ;)
[02:51] <tarvid> vertigo, start with lscpi and identify the wireless card
[02:51] <MHobbit> raptros-v76: Not only free, but really good ones comparable to the ones out now and in the future. ;-)
[02:51] <odyssey12386> does anybody have probleme installing amsn
[02:51] <kbrooks> unity: im aginst making a newbie write a computer game
[02:51] <__mikem> unity no I was serious see raptros-v76's comment
[02:51] <kbrooks> odyssey12386: just ask
[02:51] <kbrooks> odyssey12386: dont ask to ask
[02:51] <vertigo> in a terminal?
[02:51] <eod_punk> Ill stop in here tomorrow thanks everyone
[02:52] <odyssey12386> nds: imlib1  but it is not installable
[02:52] <odyssey12386>  Depends: libpng10-0  but it is not installable
[02:52] <tarvid> vertigo, yes - you may need sudo lspci
[02:52] <amphi> vertigo: what card is it?
[02:52] <akonkwa> Ok, so I downloaded some codecs for my media player (xine) . But when I run dpkg, it gives me this error: cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[02:52] <akonkwa> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:52] <akonkwa>  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[02:52] <odyssey12386> dont know what that means
[02:52] <vertigo> k
[02:52] <unity> __mikem: that's actually my goal. all my friends throw linux aside because "it can't run games" when the real problem is there are few good games written for it
[02:52] <TAW_Bug> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu (don't know what version) and im quite new to Linux. So if someone could please help me, I am having trouble locating my NIC card on my computer. It is installed properly and I believe the problem is the lack of divers. Does it sound like I should look for the drivers or is there another solution
[02:52] <TAW_Bug> ?
[02:52] <__mikem> actually there are plenty of good games writen for it, you just need to know where to look
[02:52] <hephaistos> hello
[02:53] <amphi> TAW_Bug: what card is it?
[02:53] <unity> __mikem: free?
[02:53] <__mikem> yup tuxgamers for instance is a good site
[02:53] <raptros-v76> unity: of course!
[02:53] <Bone`> FreeCiv is pretty good, been playing that one
[02:53] <vertigo> i think its atheros
[02:53] <unity> __mikem: paying for games is just like paying for an os. if i ever make a game, it's open source and free
[02:53] <__mikem> thats good, but not enough people think like you
[02:53] <raptros-v76> i actually got a linux port of quake 3
[02:53] <scifi> unity/mikem: tell me more about these linux specific games, are there seriously any games like high-quality 3d first persons hooters ?
[02:54] <tarvid> vertigo, next lsmod and look for madwifi
[02:54] <unity> hooters?
[02:54] <hephaistos> shoters
[02:54] <akonkwa>  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[02:54] <__mikem> doom is available for linux
[02:54] <akonkwa> Ok, so I downloaded some codecs for my media player (xine) . But when I run dpkg, it gives me this error: cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[02:54] <hephaistos> UT too
[02:54] <Bone`> FreeCiv = basically Civilization on Linux
[02:54] <unity> scifi: doom3, but it's non free. quake 4 also, i think. and enemy territory
[02:54] <__mikem> quake is available for linux and it might even be free, I don't know for sure
[02:54] <amphi> vertigo: this may be useful: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/
[02:54] <struct> have a problem upgrading to dapper
[02:54] <raptros-v76> theres a quake 4?
[02:54] <tarvid> vertigo, maybe i am ahead of the game, have you tried System, Administration, Networking
[02:54] <struct> libgl1-mesa has problems
[02:55] <polpak> raptros-v76, lol, yes
[02:55] <unity> raptros-v76 lives under a rock
[02:55] <_jason> akonkwa: where are the codecs? desktop?
[02:55] <scifi> unity: ne free high-quality ones ?
[02:55] <__mikem> if you need to, you could always use cedega
[02:55] <tarvid> vertigo, Atheros based devices usually come up if they were present during the install
[02:55] <akonkwa> _jason,  /home
[02:55] <soundray> vertigo: atheros should work out of the box
[02:55] <vertigo> yes, ive been there
[02:55] <vertigo> its enabled
[02:55] <raptros-v76> no, i just been spending my time playing games like halo 2, and other console games
[02:55] <_jason> akonkwa: /home or /home/username?
[02:55] <__mikem> you don't need to spend money on cedega
[02:55] <__mikem> you could get it through cvs
[02:55] <akonkwa> _jason,  /home/akonkwa
[02:56] <_jason> akonkwa: ok can you paste the exact command you used?
[02:56] <vertigo> im connected right now on the wired ethernet card
[02:56] <unity> scifi: i'll make some after i finish school in june =)
[02:56] <scifi> ^^
[02:56] <TAW_Bug> amphi: 3Com 3C918 Fast Ethernet
[02:56] <akonkwa> _jason,  Ok, i was in the wrong directory :-s  Shame on me. Thanx for helping me out :-)
[02:57] <vertigo> and i dont see madwifi in the list on lsmod
[02:57] <__mikem> I remember when video games used primative 2d vector graphics
[02:57] <raptros-v76> lol
[02:57] <hephaistos> hey i gat no sound on planet-penguin racer, does anyone knows anythin about that ?
[02:57] <amphi> TAW_Bug: dunno about that one
[02:57] <TAW_Bug> amphi: should I go to the 3Com site and see if there are any drivers... also this is a old card
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> vertigo: madwifi is ath_pci
[02:57] <raptros-v76> is there any sound for that game?
[02:57] <hephaistos> yep
[02:57] <amphi> TAW_Bug: no, there should be a linux module for that
[02:58] <raptros-v76> hey, wait a sec....
[02:58] <vertigo> ok
[02:58] <tarvid> vertigo, maybe we can get someone to chime in on how to invoke hardware detection - will dpkg-reconfigure xxx where xxx is the right package do that?
[02:58] <vertigo> i see that
[02:58] <TAW_Bug> amphi: thats what i was hoping for... upon instalation ubuntu notified me that it detected a NIC card but couldn't install it ...
[02:59] <tarvid> vertigo, my atheros based pcmcia card works out of the box if it is plugged in during the install, if your tochiba is newer and it has a minipci card it was obviously plugged in
[02:59] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: do you have any other media program (or program that uses sound) open?
[02:59] <vertigo> its built in
[02:59] <hephaistos> hum.. no
[02:59] <raptros-v76> check
[02:59] <tokenbad_> bah...tarvid...I am so confused on this...I have samba and webmin installed...but now what?
[02:59] <hephaistos> how ?
[02:59] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: like xmms?
[03:00] <hephaistos> no
[03:00] <raptros-v76> any other games?
[03:00] <hephaistos> nothing but gnome
[03:00] <raptros-v76> hmm.
[03:00] <hephaistos> and i use alsa, that shouldnt be a problem
[03:00] <odyssey12386> i cant install amsn because of dependencies does anybody have a sugestion
[03:00] <raptros-v76> yeah, thats odd
[03:00] <vertigo> shouldn't it have an icon next to the wired ethernet icon on the dsktop?
[03:00] <tarvid> TokenBad, it is confusing, your head may hurt a little, try to log in to webmin - https://localhost:10000/
[03:01] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: i mean, i dont get sound if i have any other sound program open, only one program at a time can use my sound thing
[03:01] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: which is also bad
[03:01] <H_Bug> amphi: im in the device manager and ubuntu cant seem to locate my ethernet hardware
[03:01] <hephaistos> yep
[03:01] <tarvid> vertigo, you are now beyond my capabilities, lspci -vv will identify the hardware, use that info for a google search
[03:01] <hephaistos> but i think with alsa they solved this problem
[03:02] <tokenbad_> tarvid, yeah I got into webmin
[03:02] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: try checking to see if there is a soudn package, and no apparantly they didnt
[03:02] <tokenbad_> but the logon and passes not work
[03:02] <tarvid> vertigo, you may even find a howto for your particlar notebook
[03:02] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: i use alsa
[03:02] <hephaistos> ah yea
[03:02] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: but then again, im still using breezy
[03:02] <tarvid> TokenBad, look for samba under servers
[03:02] <hephaistos> so do i
[03:02] <__mikem> me 2
[03:02] <tokenbad_> tarvid, how do I get that far...I put logon and pass in..but nothing
[03:02] <raptros-v76>  ok. i must have screwed something up
[03:02] <raptros-v76> any help?
[03:03] <hephaistos> raptros-v76: sorry i am a big damn noob
[03:03] <tarvid> TokenBad, try sudo apt-get install webmin-core, webmin alone comes up bare
[03:03] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: its ok, i was even worse once
[03:03] <vertigo> i found a how to but im not good at editing the wpa_supplicant.conf file. lol
[03:03] <tokenbad_> tarvid, I did that
[03:03] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: at least your asking for help
[03:03] <odyssey12386> i need help with amsn can someone help please
[03:03] <hephaistos> raptros-v76: yea
[03:03] <tarvid> TokenBad, webmin and debian part ways over apache, I hop samba works
[03:04] <hephaistos> raptros-v76:i am downloading freeciv, i have to compile it, do i have to do that with ./ ?
[03:04] <scifi> sweet quake 3 free linux port
[03:04] <tokenbad_> how do I access samba from webmin though...I tried to login and now its blocked me
[03:04] <tokenbad_> says access denied cause the logon and pass not work
[03:04] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: ./configure, make, sudo make install
[03:05] <tarvid> TokenBad, my bad, this is going to get even more difficult
[03:05] <__mikem> THere is only one game I use frequently, bejeweled 2 deluxe and I run it through cedega
[03:05] <odyssey12386> Depends: imlib1  but it is not installable
[03:05] <odyssey12386>  Depends: libpng10-0  but it is not installable
[03:05] <tokenbad_> tarvid, you know of a walkthrough...a kinda step by step thing?  I could read it
[03:06] <reuben> kubuntu q -- i just dist-upgraded from breezy, and my usb flash device (m-audio microtrack) is not automounting when i plug it in... it *does* automount on my dapper laptop... what should i look at?
[03:06] <amphi> H_Bug: sorry, didn't find any info about that card
[03:08] <hephaistos> raptros-v76: i sent u private msgs, but it didnt work, i gotta register, thx for ure help, i try now and tell u ;)
[03:08] <Kr0ntab> good evening
[03:08] <hephaistos> lo
[03:09] <cmatheso1> unusual scripting problem... i'm calling zenity from a bash script... it doesn't quite work right.  if i 'echo' the command and then copy the output in the terminal it works exactly as expected though... any ideas how that could happen?
[03:09] <tarvid> TokenBad, i apologize, i am probably leading you into the tulips. http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p5?from=10&comments_per_page=10 describes a domain server setup which is more complicated than you need but maybe it will help
[03:10] <H_Bug> amphi: same here... looked on the 3com website.. no go... looking on fourms for problems like mine
[03:10] <tokenbad_> tarvid, ok...will check it..but yeah alot more complicated than what I need
[03:10] <lampshade> anyone ever run into the error "Couldn't stop playback" with Rhythmbox?  It doesn't actually play at all, doesn't even start.  Any ideas?
[03:10] <SpecialBuddy> how would I go about making a script that would print out it's own source code
[03:10] <eck> SpecialBuddy: do a google search for "quine"
[03:10] <Agent_bob> cat $0
[03:10] <SpecialBuddy> quine
[03:11] <raptros-v76> eck: "wine"
[03:11] <raptros-v76> is what i think you mean to mean
[03:11] <eck> raptros-v76: no, a quine
[03:11] <raptros-v76> a wuine
[03:11] <tarvid> I just tried to install webmin on my dapper beta and it isn't there, I've done it a dozen times on breezy
[03:11] <raptros-v76> a quine
[03:11] <raptros-v76> ?
[03:11] <bigjaws>  I have encryption on, and public set to yes in smb.conf, but I cant get my XP box to log onto my linux shared folder...  No logon and PW work... any clue?
[03:11] <eck> raptros-v76: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quine
[03:12] <doms> in pache2.conf how do i change user and groupd i hav done making a root@localhost
[03:13] <H_Bug> what is a command that lists all my hardware in my computer?
[03:13] <__mikem> lsmod
[03:13] <__mikem> i think
[03:13] <amphi> H_Bug: lspci
[03:13] <H_Bug> yes ty
[03:13] <reuben> lspci , lsusb
[03:13] <tarvid> I'm giving up folks, I've done enough damage for one night
[03:14] <__mikem> thats the spirit
[03:14] <__mikem> lol
[03:14] <Elazar> I'm trying to write a bash script in Ubuntu and I'm a bit new to it. I'm getting an "unexpected end of file" error on this -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13046 -- any suggestions as to what's wrong?
[03:14] <RobyX> lol
[03:15] <Agent_bob> Elazar you didn't close the if statement
[03:16] <Agent_bob> if thie ;then blah ;fi
[03:16] <Agent_bob> this
[03:16] <doms> in pache2.conf how do i change user and groupd i hav done making a root@localhost
[03:16] <H_Bug> I am trying to install a 3Com NIC card.. durring installation Ubuntu told me that a nic card was detected but could not install the device.. does anyone have anyhelp on how to install a nic card... also cant seem to find any drivers for it
[03:16] <hanos>   
[03:16] <doms> why is it when chande user name to root i've got an error
[03:16] <hanos>  
[03:17] <steel> hanos. i can't help you..
[03:17] <Agent_bob> Elazar also if you leave the 'then' on the same line with the if  you will have to use a linebreak  ";"
[03:17] <hanos> thank you
[03:17] <Elazar> Agent_bob: Ah, got it. Thanks much. :)
[03:17] <Agent_bob> np
[03:17] <hephaistos> you are korean ?
[03:18] <hanos> yes
[03:18] <__mikem> hey hanos, are you on the comunist half or the capital half of korea
[03:18] <hephaistos> north/south
[03:18] <hanos> south
[03:19] <amphi> all the north korean spies in #ubuntu say that ;)
[03:19] <__mikem> so your not the ones that are not in compliance with the UN Sanctions
[03:19] <FliesLikeALap> perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic guys?
[03:19] <Agent_bob> spys   hehhe you wouldn't know a spy if he said "you wouldn't know a spy" to you....
[03:19] <hanos> is there korean?
[03:20] <eck> !ko
[03:20] <ubotu> For Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko
[03:20] <hanos> thank you
[03:20] <hephaistos> damn does anybody know what is zlib ?
[03:21] <hephaistos> it seems it cant find it for some reason
[03:21] <Agent_bob> hephaistos b-e
[03:21] <Agent_bob> !b-e
[03:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[03:21] <roy__> what is repositories
[03:21] <Agent_bob> !repos
[03:21] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:21] <roy__> i am new to this
[03:22] <amphi> hephaistos: a compression lib, libz it's called
[03:22] <hephaistos> zlib
[03:22] <hephaistos> i confirm
[03:22] <roy__> and what is universe and multiverse
[03:22] <hephaistos> i checked and install every possible one, but still have the same mistake
[03:22] <roy__> why di they have to be enabled
[03:23] <roy__> do*
[03:23] <hephaistos> mistake=error
[03:23] <amphi> hephaistos: the lib is /usr/lib/libz.so
[03:23] <eck> roy__:  they tell ubuntu where to download new packages and updates
[03:23] <Klohunt> Does anyone here know how to get Firefox to use mplayer as the default media player for embedded videos on webpages and stuff instead of totem?
[03:23] <Agent_bob> zlib is on your system.      ii  zlib1g         1.2.2-4ubuntu1 compression library - runtime
[03:23] <amphi> hephaistos: what are you trying to do?
[03:23] <hephaistos> install freeciv
[03:23] <roy__> oh ok
[03:23] <roy__> thanks eck
[03:23] <amphi> hephaistos: from src?
[03:24] <__mikem> a lot about gaming going on tonight
[03:24] <hephaistos> ? sorry i am noob
[03:24] <amphi> hephaistos: what can't find zlib?
[03:24] <hephaistos> i have to ./configure
[03:24] <Agent_bob> !b-e
[03:24] <ubotu> somebody said b-e was no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[03:24] <hephaistos> and at the end it tells me no zlib
[03:24] <Agent_bob> hephaistos ^
[03:24] <amphi> hephaistos: install the zlib dev package
[03:24] <francis> is sound supposed to work in the ubuntu live cd ?
[03:24] <SpecialBuddy> how would I write the bash script so that no matter where it is it can write the source code
[03:24] <hephaistos> but what is it ?
[03:25] <hephaistos> b-e ?
[03:25] <hephaistos> ok i go for the dev
[03:25] <eck> SpecialBuddy: umm... that might be a security compromise
[03:25] <SpecialBuddy> it's for class
[03:26] <SpecialBuddy> I know I can go cat nameoffile but if I move the script how will it know where it is
[03:26] <Agent_bob> yes b-e.    if you haven't installed the build-essential meta package you probably wont be able to compile anything....
[03:26] <eck> SpecialBuddy: I'm not really sure what you are asking
[03:26] <hephaistos> i think i compiled sum stuff before..
[03:26] <FliesLikeALap> SpecialBuddy use a full (absolute) path to the file, not just a relative one
[03:26] <Agent_bob> cat $0
[03:27] <hephaistos> i installed headers things for that
[03:27] <Agent_bob> SpecialBuddy i told you the first time   use   cat $0
[03:27] <hephaistos> and the ./configure tells me about 686, but i am using k7!
[03:27] <SpecialBuddy> cat $0 will do it
[03:27] <Agent_bob> yes
[03:28] <kingspawn> SpecialBuddy: he has told you several times now
[03:28] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: what.
[03:28] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[03:28] <SpecialBuddy> I didn't see it
[03:28] <hephaistos> raptros-v76: ?
[03:28] <Klohunt> Is anyone aware of a way to use mozilla-mplayer as the default player in firefox?
[03:28] <Agent_bob> you can filter that if needed   cat $0 | grep '#'  to only display lines that contain # in the script
[03:28] <Klohunt> I have it downloaded, just that firefox still tries to use totem
[03:29] <hephaistos> raptros-v76: ./configure doesnt wanna work again, i have new errors now
[03:29] <SpecialBuddy> thanks Agent_bob
[03:29] <brasko> I just installed tcl8.4-dev, now when I run aclocal, I get all sorts of warnings. The file /usr/share/aclocal/tcl.m4 isn't fully correct.
[03:29] <Agent_bob> hephaistos it's because you haven't installed build-essential
[03:29] <brasko> Should I report this here?
[03:29] <hephaistos> raptros-v76: what is that window talking about u ?
[03:30] <hephaistos> raptros-v76: i have build essential
[03:30] <hephaistos> raptros-v76: i am not registered, i cant send u messages
[03:31] <amphi> hephaistos: /msg nicksrv help
[03:31] <hephaistos> the nick is in use unfortunely
[03:31] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: make a slightly different one
[03:31] <amphi> hephaistos: pick another
[03:31] <hephaistos> yep
[03:31] <hephaistos> ok
[03:32] <hephaistos> hephaistos is the one i use on the forum
[03:32] <raptros-v76> hephaistos: register so we can told this over
[03:32] <hephaistos> hummm, how do i change nick without disconnecting ?
[03:32] <raptros-v76> use /nick <name>
[03:33] <raptros-v76> i think
[03:33] <amphi> hephaistos: /nick <nick>
[03:33] <Agent_bob> /nick new-nick
[03:33] <hephaistos> thx ;)
[03:33] <amphi> hephaistos: you could always use the Roman form ;)
[03:34] <amphi> voraistos: or hephstus ;)
[03:35] <voraistos> i am back with the vor version
[03:35] <raptros-v76> good
[03:36] <voraistos> yea the window that always appers is dCC something
[03:36] <amphi> voraistos: just do /query <whoever>
[03:37] <voraistos> raptros-v76: but what is that for? when i say accept, it doesnt change a thing ?!
[03:37] <odyssey12386> hello
[03:37] <voraistos> lo
[03:37] <odyssey12386> how do i upgrde to daper drake
[03:38] <_jason> odyssey12386: you know it is still beta?
[03:38] <amphi> odyssey12386: if you don't know, you probably shouldn't
[03:38] <odyssey12386> i see
[03:38] <odyssey12386> yes i know its beta
[03:38] <odyssey12386> i tried with the repositories and it didnt work
[03:39] <odyssey12386> synaptic
[03:40] <Agent_bob> !upgrade
[03:40] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[03:40] <odyssey12386>  thanks for the help  jason and amphi will wiki myself
[03:40] <brasko> when is the releas after breezy coming out?
[03:40] <raptros-v76> stable?
[03:40] <brasko> is it already done?
[03:40] <roxas> Where can you stinall the Bison package?
[03:40] <brasko> Yeah
[03:40] <raptros-v76> dapper beta has come out, dapper stable is in june
[03:41] <Agent_bob> breezy was 5.10
[03:41] <amphi> roxas: build-essential should install it
[03:41] <braniff> will dapper have selinux ??
[03:41] <brasko> thanks.
[03:41] <roxas> amphi: What's the terminal command?
[03:41] <Agent_bob> libselinux1 - SELinux shared libraries
[03:41] <amphi> roxas: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:42] <amphi> roxas: or apt-cache search bison to see available bison packages
[03:42] <kuchiki> who is using dapper here?
[03:42] <Agent_bob> i am.
[03:42] <roxas> What about YACC?
[03:42] <SpecialBuddy> is it worth upgrading to dapper right now
[03:42] <kuchiki> Agent_bob, are you using xgl/compiz ?
[03:43] <raptros-v76> SpecialBuddy: depends
[03:43] <Agent_bob> no
[03:43] <SpecialBuddy> what's it depend on
[03:43] <roxas> amphi: I already have the build-essential.  It says this...
[03:43] <kuchiki> Agent_bob, im trying to make opacity plugin works
[03:43] <Agent_bob> kuchiki dapper has it's own channel   #ubuntu+1   for those testing thing.
[03:43] <kuchiki> Agent_bob, oh ok
[03:44] <kuchiki> Agent_bob, sorry
[03:44] <roxas> amphi: configure: error: no suitable bison/yacc found. Please install the 'bison' package.
[03:44] <amphi> roxas: so do it already ;)
[03:44] <roxas> amphi: and How?
[03:44] <Agent_bob> kuchiki i'm not trying to run you off.  but the +1 channel is more likely to have the answers you want.
[03:44] <amphi> roxas: ffs, apt-cache search bison and choose a package and apt-get install it
[03:45] <roxas> amphi: I know I am being stupid here, but how do you search/run that?
[03:45] <roxas> amphi: I only started on Ubuntu last night >.>
[03:46] <amphi> roxas: type 'apt-cache search bison'
[03:46] <Agent_bob> !cli
[03:46] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[03:46] <amphi> roxas: and then 'sudo apt-get install <package_name>', replacing '<package_name>' with the name of the package you want to install
[03:47] <Agent_bob> and when you have the time read some of what ubotu just posted.
[03:47] <drop> hello
[03:48] <doms_> how to connect ubuntu to ubuntu network share
[03:48] <amphi> !greet drop
[03:48] <ubotu> amphi: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:48] <drop> can someone help me set up my sources list
[03:49] <amphi> !sources
[03:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ubotu: hello
[03:49] <ubotu> hey
[03:49] <metalhedd> I'm trying to figure out how to transfer files between my cellphone and my computer via usb. its a sony ericsson z520a.  it uses the cdc_acm kernel module and I can get phone status information, but the program (kmobiletools) doesn't have any file transfer capabilities.  I  want to hack something together to do it, but I dont know  where to start exactly. can anyone offer some tips?
[03:49] <drop> !sources
[03:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:50] <Agent_bob> eeek.   i need to setup my sources list.....
[03:50] <drop> i dont know how im a newb
[03:50] <Sear> www.nextpicturez.com
[03:51] <amphi> Sear: ?
[03:51] <Sear> www.nextpicturez.com
[03:51] <Agent_bob> drop sudo apt-setup   i think will make it easy for you.
[03:52] <kbrooks> um
[03:52] <kbrooks> !ops
[03:52] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[03:52] <kbrooks> gr
[03:52] <kbrooks> sry ops
[03:52] <kbrooks>  i thought Sear was here
[03:52] <Agent_bob> oh kewl  k-lined   hehhe
[03:52] <drop> ill try tat bob
[03:53] <kbrooks> turns out he was klined
[03:53] <rob> grr lol
[03:53] <kbrooks> nalioth: sorry again
[03:53] <benplaut> heh
[03:53] <benplaut> that was a very fast kline :P
[03:53] <kbrooks> yes :-)
[03:53] <benplaut> bot?
[03:54] <Agent_bob> k-line   that's server side right ?
[03:54] <rob> sure
[03:54] <Agent_bob> takes an ircop  for that
[03:55] <udk> Agent_bob: yes
[03:55] <roxas> *** Warning: X development files not found. Wine will be built without
[03:55] <roxas> *** X support, which currently does not work, and would probably not be
[03:55] <roxas> *** what you want anyway. You will need to install devel packages of
[03:55] <roxas> *** Xlib/Xfree86 at the very least.
[03:55] <roxas> How would I do that?
[03:56] <rob> roxas, don't paste!
[03:57] <Agent_bob> roxas  with synaptic  i sujest
[03:57] <roxas> Agent_bob: and how do you do that?
[03:58] <Agent_bob> menu  system> synaptic package manager
[03:59] <doms> how i check my host name
[03:59] <_jason> doms: hostname <-- that's the command
[03:59] <m00nshine> I cannot get my screen resolution to work at anything less than 1600x1200 on my dell laptop
[03:59] <m00nshine> any ideas?
[03:59] <Agent_bob> hostname
[04:00] <m00nshine> Screen just gets screwed up when I go any lower than that setting
[04:00] <m00nshine> <- using ubuntu breezy
[04:01] <PORDO> anyone know anything about getting jackd to work without realtime-lsm, using limits?
[04:01] <PORDO> whatever that means
[04:01] <doms> why is it when i type my hostname ubuntu then in my other pc cant connect to ubuntu ssh, sharing i would like to make sharing 2 pc which fully installed ubuntu
[04:01] <Agent_bob> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:02] <m00nshine> tried that.  Still gives me the 1600x1200
[04:02] <dsceles> need help with remote desktop, cant connect externally from my lan, have port 5900 nated, cant connecton tightvnc
[04:02] <yggdrasil> hey can somone help me, i want to use a computer asa  gateway and i dont even know where to start. ive got it working right now one side to my lan and the other to the wan.... anyhelp is appreciated
[04:02] <m00nshine> When I use a lower res though..  I have a horrible looking screen (like seeing double)
[04:03] <khafra> The manpage, the wikipedia entry, and an online article have all completely failed to explain how xargs -i {} and xargs -I {} work
[04:03] <khafra> Can anyone here explain them, or point me to a "complete idiot's guide to xargs"?
[04:03] <biovore> what you doing with xargs?
[04:03] <noiesmo> yggdrasil, think you need to look at iptables try checking this out http://www.siliconvalleyccie.com/linux-hn/iptables-intro.htm#_Toc92808872
[04:04] <yggdrasil> thnkx.
[04:04] <khafra> biovore: I want to unzip all the files in a directory tree into their respective directories
[04:04] <green_earz> yggdrasil: have a look at using shorewall to setup a gateway box http://www.shorewall.net/
[04:04] <khafra> Or into a mirrored set of directories somewhere.  Just not all into the same directory
[04:05] <yggdrasil> well ive got ubuntu on it
[04:05] <biovore> khafra: hmm  I think you will have to do that in a small bash script..
[04:05] <khafra> Really?  The {} won't help me?
[04:05] <yggdrasil> how do i configure iptables ?
[04:05] <yggdrasil> sorry i cant open a web page till i can get stuff routed out of here ;(
[04:05] <noiesmo> yggdrasil, read the info on the link i gave you
[04:05] <yggdrasil> its a wan connection to the cybercafe
[04:05] <yggdrasil> from a box i put on my roof
[04:06] <Tedd> Can anyone help me install GRUB/point me to some channel that can?
[04:06] <Tedd> I installed Windows and it overwrote GRUB.
[04:07] <raptros-v76> why would you do that
[04:07] <_jason> !grub
[04:07] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:07] <Tedd> raptros-v76: A few reasons; mostly for Steam. :P
[04:07] <raptros-v76> ok
[04:07] <Tedd> Also, _jason, thanks a lot
[04:07] <dsceles> !remote desktop
[04:08] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dsceles
[04:08] <khafra> biovore: http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/xargs.1.asp is the complete idiot's guide to xargs, yay!
[04:08] <sonic> hi guys, can anyone tell me if there is a program I can install that will let me burn images?
[04:08] <doms_> how make a sharing between ubuntu to ubuntu network
[04:08] <_jason> sonic: iso's?
[04:08] <sonic> _jason: yes
[04:08] <Agent_bob> xargs -i only works for replacing a string    --replace[=replace-str] , -i[replace-str]    ?    and there is no -I    so i'm not sure what you are asking biovore
[04:08] <noiesmo> sonic, k3b is good
[04:08] <_jason> sonic: you can use nautilus, just right click > burn image
[04:08] <alcor> 
[04:08] <_jason> !zh
[04:08] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.
[04:08] <biovore> hehe
[04:09] <sonic> _jason: should it already be installed, or will I have to install it?
[04:09] <dsceles> any other ports that need to be open for remote desktop in kde
[04:09] <yggdrasil> haha got that link up with lynx
[04:09] <ericvw> I have a dell i8600 and am wondering how I can get sleep and hibernate work with my nvidia card
[04:10] <PORDO> alcor wow
[04:10] <themachine> what in gcc tells me the program execution time?
[04:10] <yggdrasil> thanks guys illl do my best :)
[04:10] <_jason> sonic: might have to install nautilus-cd-burner
[04:10] <doms_> how make a sharing between ubuntu to ubuntu network
[04:10] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[04:11] <Agent_bob> doms_ ssh tightvnc   ?
[04:11] <sonic> _jason: thank you
[04:11] <doms_> my pc1 has a hostname ubuntu how do connect each other
[04:11] <roxas> Does anyone know of a virus software for Ubuntu?
[04:11] <doms_> and my pc2 has a hostname ubuntu too
[04:11] <doms_> clamav
[04:12] <doms_> anti virus
[04:12] <roxas> Link please?
[04:12] <doms_> google is your friends
[04:12] <dsceles> google it
[04:12] <Agent_bob> doms_ use the eth ip  rather than the hostname
[04:12] <roxas> >.>
[04:12] <themachine> roxas, try searching for 'virus' within synaptic
[04:12] <doms_> how to check my eth ip
[04:12] <doms_> ifconfig
[04:12] <roxas> themachine: okay.
[04:12] <Agent_bob> ifconfig
[04:12] <voraistos> clamav is on synaptic
[04:13] <bender_> any one experienced with PAM at all?
[04:13] <alcor> 
[04:13] <bender_> im trying to get PAM to mount my encrypted loopback image file to my home dir upon login.. ive got that part to work.. but upon logout.. instead of it actually umounting and closing the crypt session.. it gives errors: pam_mount error could not set UID 0
[04:13] <alcor> 
[04:13] <doms_> how to check my eth ip
[04:13] <spiral_shell> hi - my mailserver postfix does not seem to be sending mail
[04:13] <Agent_bob> ok i'm gonna go now.  gooday t'all
[04:13] <spiral_shell> where are the log files stored?
[04:13] <bender_> spiral_shell, have you checked  /var/log
[04:14] <joel_> hey
[04:14] <joel_> i need some help with running a steam server
[04:14] <joel_> or a server in general
[04:14] <doms_> how to check my eth ip
[04:14] <alcor> PORDO 
[04:14] <PORDO> sweet
[04:14] <joel_> anybody willing to message me for further help? I'd appreciate it
[04:14] <bender_> doms_   ifconifg
[04:14] <themachine> doms_, type ifconfig
[04:14] <doms_> how can i add Unix file sharing
[04:15] <spiral_shell> bender_ there is no postfix log in /var/log
[04:15] <joel_> NEED SOME HELP RUNNING A SERVER
[04:15] <PORDO> doms you mean like samba?
[04:15] <bender_> spiral_shell, have you checked both GOOGLE and the MAN
[04:15] <joel_> CAN ANYBODY HELP? IM NEW TO LINUX AND UBUNTU
[04:15] <dsceles> joel use xammp
[04:15] <bender_> joel_, we heard you the first time.. dont use caps.. we arent blind
[04:15] <Amaranth> !caps
[04:15] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[04:15] <joel_> aight sorry
[04:16] <Amaranth> joel_: What kind of server?
[04:16] <blind> bender_, speak for yourself.
[04:16] <spiral_shell> bender_ I have googled
[04:16] <dsceles> google xammp
[04:16] <doms_> i hav two pc which has fully installed both of them and i want them to see each other like file sharing etc...
[04:16] <joel_> Day of Defeat server
[04:16] <tsume> I've forgottin, what is the better file system to use for a file server, xfs or JFS?
[04:16] <joel_> Steam supported
[04:16] <themachine> joel_ go to http://tldp.org/ for some basics
[04:16] <Amaranth> joel_: Err, I think you'd need WINE for that.
[04:16] <doms_> i hav two pc which has fully installed ubuntu  both of them and i want them to see each other like file sharing etc...
[04:16] <Thinjon100> OK, I've read all the HOWTOs Ubotu links to, but I'm still having trouble gettign GRUB set up on my Dapper Drake installation... I have Drake installed on hdg4, and I told the installer to mount /boot on hda2 (where I want GRUB installed) the installer came up with an error (cannot load GRUB on hd0), and booting into rescue mode, grub-install /dev/hda2 returns "/dev/hda2: Not found or not a block device"
[04:16] <joel_> lol
[04:17] <Amaranth> joel_: Out of my area if it's a windows server app, #wine might be able to help.
[04:17] <noiesmo> Thinjon100, grub uses hd0,0 as hda
[04:17] <green_earz> spiral_shell:  in the /var/log  dir is the any    mail.log     file if so these will be postfix logs
[04:17] <doms_> i hav two pc which has fully installed ubuntu  both of them and i want them to see each other like file sharing etc...
[04:17] <Thinjon100> noiesmo: If I read it right, hda2 is (hd0,1)... I tried doing setup (hd0,1) form grub and it still couldn't find it
[04:18] <joel_> no its ubuntu server app
[04:18] <tsume> too many noobs in here
[04:18] <noiesmo> ubotu, tell Thinjon100 about grub
[04:18] <Amaranth> joel_: I've never heard of it, what problem are you having?
[04:18] <Amaranth> tsume: Help educate them? :)
[04:18] <lsuactiafner> noiesmo : he said he read all the links already
[04:18] <Thinjon100> noiesmo: I've read all those... they didn't help because they don't address why GRUB can't find /dev/hda2, even from rescue mode
[04:18] <noiesmo> Thinjon100, sorry
[04:19] <tsume> Amaranth: hell no
[04:19] <joel_> i just need to know how to run this server
[04:19] <joel_> like the commands
[04:19] <tsume> Amaranth: they can pay for my knowledge ;)
[04:19] <joel_> to get it up and running
[04:19] <roy_> how can i get LimeWireLinux.rpm to work or installing it
[04:19] <joel_> im VERY new to linux and ubuntu
[04:19] <spiral_shell> green_earz I restarted it
[04:19] <dsceles> what would be the equivalent of citrix in linux
[04:19] <joel_> i need a step by step instruction person
[04:19] <Thinjon100> wondering if anyone had any other suggestions... or know how to get the Dapper installation to let me chooes where it installs GRUB... I mean, I told it to mount /boot on hda2, but it never asked where I wanted GRUB, and I searched for the option
[04:19] <lsuactiafner> Thinjon100 : i think its a kernel module which aint loaded to detect your disk, i know intergrated technology released a chipset thats only supported now after 2-3 yrs
[04:20] <spiral_shell> green_earz checked mail.err and there was only one error and that was me trying to retart postfix with 'restart' instead of 'stop' and then 'start'
[04:20] <sonic> guys, I have a file in my windows partition that I would like to move to the desktop, does anyone know how I can do this, as It doesnt seem to be able to "drag and drop"
[04:20] <lsuactiafner> Thinjon100 : in breezy check what modules are loaded related to your disks and see if it loads in the dapper install, run lsmod maybe
[04:20] <lsuactiafner> and file a bug/
[04:20] <Thinjon100> lsuactiafner: Ubuntu 5.10 installed correctly, and instaleld GRUB correctly, but it didn't support some of my other hardware, Drake does
[04:20] <doms_> i hav two pc which has fully installed ubuntu  both of them and i want them to see each other like file sharing etc...
[04:21] <noiesmo> Thinjon100, grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda
[04:21] <roy_> can anyonr help me
[04:21] <dsceles> use samba for file sharing
[04:21] <sonic> anyone?
[04:21] <Thinjon100> The Drake partition manager seemed to find hda jsut fine
[04:21] <roy_> anyone help please
[04:21] <ircbglad> anyone here willing to help me troubleshoot a freeze on startup issue?
[04:21] <lsuactiafner> Thinjon100 : then i think its something to do with the kernel not supporting your disk, or not configured to load the correct module.. run lspci and identify your IDE controller and find out if the module loads during install like it should
[04:21] <lsuactiafner> Thinjon100 : did you try lilo?
[04:22] <Thinjon100> noiesmo: That would overwrite my MBR on hda, which I don't want
[04:22] <spiral_shell> green_earz also checked mail.log and it seems like it is working
[04:22] <green_earz> spiral_shell: check out the postfix site it as very good howto docs and there is all so a #postfix channel
[04:22] <noiesmo> Thinjon100, ok i'll shut up now :)
[04:22] <Thinjon100> lsuactiafner: I haven't seen ANY options for what bootloader to install or WHERE to install during Dapper install
[04:22] <lsuactiafner> Thinjon100 : that sucks
[04:22] <Thinjon100> noiesmo: No, I appreciate teh help, just letitng you know what I've tried
[04:22] <joel_> can someone message me for step by step help with running a game server in Ubuntu?
[04:22] <spiral_shell> green_earz the only thing I can think of is that there is a problem with the hosting (who firewalls the company I am doing this for)
[04:22] <noiesmo> Thinjon100, np ;)
[04:23] <lsuactiafner> hate it when things get dumbed down
[04:23] <voraistos> roy:  try to install frostwire
[04:23] <lsuactiafner> so users who do understand what they are doing are powerless to select what they want
[04:23] <joel_> can someone message me for step by step help with running a game server in Ubuntu?
[04:23] <roy_> can anyone tell me how i can install LimeWireLinux.rpm
[04:23] <lsuactiafner> like microsoft does.
[04:23] <Thinjon100> lsuactifner: That was one of the things I actually liked about the Breezy install... I got to pick where I wanted what
[04:23] <green_earz> spiral_shell: can you send a email out ?
[04:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell roy_ about frostwire
[04:23] <spiral_shell> no
[04:23] <brasko> joel_: you might find step by step instructions from the people that write the gameserver you want to start
[04:24] <_jason> roy_: try frostwire, it's just like limewire
[04:24] <spiral_shell> green_earz thats the problem
[04:24] <brasko> joel_: they would know best how to get it to run
[04:24] <sonic> guys, I have a file in my windows partition that I would like to move to the desktop, does anyone know how I can do this, as It doesnt seem to be able to "drag and drop"
[04:24] <Amaranth> lsuactiafner: grub > lilo, why would you want to choose? :)
[04:24] <roy_> where i can get frostwire
[04:24] <joel_> its Steam
[04:24] <lsuactiafner> Thinjon100 : ive always stuck to, if you create something idiots can use, only idiots would use it. default options are better than locking someone into something.
[04:24] <spiral_shell> green_earz my php app cant send mail
[04:24] <joel_> Half-Life Day of Defeat Source server
[04:24] <_jason> roy_: check your private messages from ubotu
[04:24] <Amaranth> joel_: Steam is windows only, I swear
[04:24] <ircbglad> joel_: the steam forums have a great step by step for that
[04:24] <joel_> how would i contact them?
[04:24] <lsuactiafner> Amaranth : because grub refuses to work on my system since hoary, if not for lilo i wouldnt run ubuntu
[04:24] <Amaranth> joel_: Got a link to it?
[04:24] <joel_> no i dont
[04:25] <ircbglad> joel_: hold on i'll link you
[04:25] <Amaranth> joel_: Get it off P2P? :P
[04:25] <lsuactiafner> Amaranth : and i dont want graphics or anything when i bootup, i want lilo and the kernels i make myself, grub is full of...
[04:25] <Amaranth> _jason: Get a chance to try out cvs?
[04:25] <joel_> no just downloaded it off site
[04:25] <bender_> any one else running dapper beta?
[04:25] <Amaranth> joel_: that's the site i want to see
[04:25] <Amaranth> bender_: Me, please join #ubuntu+1 though
[04:25] <_jason> Amaranth: trying now, it seg faulted again.  But if I don't try to go too fast it's ok it seems
[04:25] <jadaz87> anyone know how to uninstall with aptitude by CLI?
[04:25] <Amaranth> _jason: Odd.
[04:25] <lsuactiafner> Amaranth : ive filed bug reports, grub on my system screws things up
[04:26] <jadaz87> sudo aptitude --purge ????
[04:26] <ircbglad> joel_: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=380dfe03edff6d5491cda42bd0983028&threadid=292495
[04:26] <Amaranth> jadaz87: Same as apt-get: sudo aptitude remove <package>
[04:26] <jadaz87> Amaranth what about purge?
[04:26] <dsceles> you guys are hard core
[04:27] <Amaranth> jadaz87: it probably works to, try it
[04:27] <_jason> Amaranth yep just did it again with 3 clicks when i tried right after one another.  But if I hold off and wait like 5 seconds in between it doesn't seem to do it
[04:27] <lsuactiafner> why not apt-get remove package
[04:27] <joel_> thx bglad
[04:27] <ircbglad> np
[04:27] <Amaranth> _jason: Really odd.
[04:27] <green_earz> spiral_shell:  in /etc/postfix/main.cf          myhostname = your-host-name.your-domain-name    and      mydestination = $myhostname localhost.$mydomain localhost
[04:27] <Amaranth> _jason: I was clicking as fast as I could, didn't have any problems.
[04:28] <_jason> Amaranth: what were you clicking in particular?
[04:28] <Amaranth> _jason: Everything.
[04:28] <_jason> ha, okay
[04:28] <dsceles> anybody know of a free linux remote desktop with konsole access
[04:28] <Amaranth> _jason: I spent a minute pulling up properties as fast as i could and closing it
[04:28] <Amaranth> _jason: then the same hiding/unhiding things
[04:29] <Amaranth> dsceles: Probably doesn't exist, that would be expensive and dangerous.
[04:29] <ircbglad> anyone here willing to help me troubleshoot a freeze on startup issue?
[04:30] <jadaz87> Amaranth what does apt-get clean do?
[04:31] <Amaranth> jadaz87: Removes cached deb files.
[04:31] <dsceles> is there am open source equivalent to citrix in nix
[04:31] <doms_> i hav two pc which has fully installed ubuntu  both of them and i want them to see each other like file sharing etc...
[04:32] <dsceles> doms explain etc
[04:32] <dsceles> what else do you want to do
[04:32] <dsceles> file sharing =samba
[04:32] <ircbglad> doms_: you have two options, nfs and samba for file sharing, if you want your windows computers to see then samba
[04:33] <dsceles> what the best router to use with nix
[04:33] <dsceles> *what is
[04:34] <doms_> no what i nid ubuntu to ubuntu sharing
[04:34] <doms_> thats it
[04:34] <doms_> why they cant see each other
[04:34] <Tedd> Hi, I'm back.
[04:34] <doms_> pls. help me
[04:34] <dsceles> can you ping
[04:34] <jadaz87> Amaranth i did: aptitude purge openoffice.org2-core :and most of the packages associated with openoffice came up except openoffice.org2-help-en-us and that is installed i was wondering why that is?
[04:34] <Tedd> I installed GRUB, but Windows isn't on it, and I need to put it on there
[04:34] <Tedd> I read the Wiki entry
[04:34] <ircbglad> doms_: you need to install either samba or nfs servers and clients on them
[04:34] <Tedd> but it doesn't help me
[04:34] <doms_> my pc1 ip is 192.168.2.100 and pc2 is 192.168.2.102
[04:35] <Amaranth> jadaz87: It's a part of language-pack-en
[04:35] <_Avatar_> ls
[04:35] <doms_> i hav installed both
[04:35] <Tedd> I tried to mount /dev/hda2 but it's not in fstbab
[04:35] <Tedd> fstab
[04:35] <themachine> dsceles, the router doesn't really matter.
[04:35] <Tedd> so I tried entering it in, didn't work, it tells me the line is bad
[04:35] <doms_> i hav correctly installed both
[04:35] <doms_> coz i can see all my windows sharing
[04:35] <ircbglad> doms_: if you type: ps aux | grep smbd
[04:35] <ircbglad> whats your output
[04:35] <doms_> except the ubuntu to ubuntu
[04:36] <biovore> doms_: you need to setup up sambe
[04:36] <doms_> i hav correctly setup my samba
[04:36] <biovore> doms_: can windows see your shares on you ubuntu box?
[04:37] <Tedd> I put it correctly into FSTAB but it didn't work, it tells me I set it up wrong
[04:37] <sonic> guys, I have a file in my windows partition that I would like to move to the desktop, does anyone know how I can do this, as It doesnt seem to be able to "drag and drop"
[04:37] <doms_> yes
[04:37] <doms_> very excellent they see each other
[04:37] <doms_> like cdrom sharing
[04:38] <doms_> except in my ubuntu to ubuntu box
[04:38] <sonic> anyone?
[04:38] <romy> to sonic, just copy the file you want to put in to the desktop and go to the desktop and press (hold) crtl and press v
[04:39] <doms_> except in my ubuntu to ubuntu box
[04:39] <biovore> doms_: you install the smbfs package?
[04:39] <biovore> and modprobe smbfs
[04:39] <doms_> not yet
[04:39] <doms_> ok i try it
[04:39] <doms_> do i nit to restart after installing smbfs
[04:39] <sonic> romy:  I've tried that mate, nothing happens at all
[04:40] <roy_> why doesnt ubunto recognizes limewirelinux.rpm
[04:40] <roy_> if its  linux software
[04:40] <_jason> roy_: rpm is redhat package manager
[04:41] <_jason> roy_: did you try frostwire?
[04:41] <romy> try to copy/move  the files to the desktop folder
[04:41] <roy_> so i need to get that manager
[04:41] <roy_> i have al;ready moved them there
[04:41] <_jason> roy_: redhat is a different distribution of linux
[04:41] <roy_> oh i see
[04:42] <dts> I specifically need php 5.1, but it's not in the repository yet, is there an easy way i could get it or do i need to build it from source?
[04:42] <roy_> i am downloading frostwire
[04:42] <jadaz87> Amaranth so i am trying to remove the openofice.org2-help-en-us and now it wants to remove language-support-en openoffice.org2-l10n-en-us ubuntu-live is that a smart idea?
[04:42] <ircbglad> roy_: the package Alien can convert rpm to deb
[04:42] <_jason> roy_: ok, let me know when it finished if you're not sure how to isntall
[04:42] <roy_> yes thanks jason
[04:42] <roy_> i appreciate all your help
[04:42] <doms_> when i grep smbd no out pput
[04:43] <roy_> how do i get that package ircbglad
[04:43] <ircbglad> doms_: then smbd is not running
[04:43] <doms_> how to run it
[04:43] <doms_> how to run it
[04:43] <jabo-> hello
[04:43] <jabo-> is ubuntu the best linux distro
[04:44] <ircbglad> doms_: just type smbd, and it should start up
[04:44] <doms_> command not found
[04:44] <sonic> ahhh, surely someone can help, I dont think its a difficult problem, I just need to move a file from my windows partition to the desktop
[04:44] <doms_> command not found
[04:45] <romy> Hi Yvonne
[04:45] <roy_> so to instal a software it has to be deb jason ?
[04:45] <ircbglad> doms_: then try | /usr/sbin/smbd
[04:45] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, i dont have long but i can try
[04:45] <sonic> thanks mate
[04:45] <roy_> deb is binary right ?
[04:45] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, type sudo -i
[04:45] <Chris_Tucker> sonic then fdisk -l
[04:45] <doms_> no such file on the directory
[04:46] <_jason> roy_: It is recommended you use the repositories which uses deb.  After that, if there is an ubuntu deb that should be ok.
[04:46] <doms_> no such file on the directory
[04:46] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  Thanks, What now?
[04:46] <ircbglad> doms_: type locate smbd to see if it even exists, its sound like you havent installed samba properly
[04:46] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, note the device, /dev/hdXX where XX is a letter and number then mkdir /mnt/tmp
[04:46] <_jason> doms_: you don't have to say everything twice
[04:46] <_jason> roy_: yes, deb is binary
[04:46] <roy_> ok
[04:46] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, mount /dev/hdXX /mnt/tmp  (replace XX with the letter and number
[04:46] <roy_> i understand
[04:46] <doms_> ne effect when i locate smbd
[04:47] <ircbglad> roy_: to get alien I think it is sudo apt-get install alien
[04:47] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, report if that gives an error or success, explain if error
[04:47] <roy_> ok jason the download is finished
[04:47] <_jason> roy_: ok, do you know how to use the terminal?
[04:47] <roy_> yes
[04:47] <roy_> the archive mangaer opened
[04:47] <doms_> hahahaha sori its my fault your right my samba in my newly installed ubuntu i hav not yet install samba sori folks
[04:47] <roy_> but nothing in there
[04:48] <doms_> thanks for conerning
[04:48] <_jason> roy_: no, don't use the archive manager.  Where is the file located now?
[04:48] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  mount /dev/hdXX /mnt/tmp
[04:48] <sonic> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /mnt/tmp busy
[04:48] <sonic> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-hda1
[04:48] <roy_> thanks ircbglad
[04:48] <ircbglad> doms_: np
[04:48] <ircbglad> roy_: np
[04:48] <doms_> thanks anyway
[04:48] <roy_> i dont know
[04:48] <_jason> roy_: actually, before we proceed.  You need java, have you installed java?
[04:48] <roy_> i dont see where it is gone
[04:48] <sonic> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/tmp  I should say
[04:48] <doms_> do i need to restart my pc
[04:48] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, type: cd /tmp/disks-conf-hda1   then type ls
[04:48] <doms_> after installing samba
[04:48] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, see if whats in there looks like the C:\ you see in windows
[04:49] <roy_> no
[04:49] <roy_> i havent
[04:49] <roy_> but i dont know where to find the file
[04:49] <ircbglad> doms_: no, but to be sure just type: ps aux | grep smbd, there should be a line with smbd on it, not counting the line that may show up for grep
[04:49] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  I am in root@Ghost:/tmp/disks-conf-hda1#
[04:49] <sonic> what command shall I type to view contents?
[04:49] <Chris_Tucker> ls
[04:50] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, ls   but dont paste the results, just look at them
[04:50] <_jason> roy_: ok, we'll do that first.  We'll find the file later :)  I'm going to send you a link on how to enable seveas' repository.  You want to enable the java section.  ok?
[04:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell roy_ about javadebs
[04:50] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  yes, that is the contents of my c:
[04:50] <doms_> oo no effect i type grep smbd
[04:50] <doms_> still blinking
[04:50] <tokenbad_> anyone have a page that explains an easy way to share files between ubuntu and windows?
[04:50] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, using cd, find your desktop, you know where its at right?
[04:51] <ircbglad> doms_: you must type "ps aux | grep smbd|
[04:51] <ircbglad> doms_: you must type "ps aux | grep smbd"
[04:51] <ircbglad> minus quotes
[04:51] <doms_> ah soru
[04:51] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  yes, I am in my desktop now (/home/sonic/Desktop)
[04:52] <cjones> does any one know of a list of short cut keys ?
[04:52] <doms_> yes i get a three line
[04:52] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, er, no :/ your windows desktop
[04:52] <sonic> ah
[04:52] <sonic> sorry
[04:52] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, what version of windows is it?
[04:52] <doms_> yes
[04:52] <doms_> perfect thanks people
[04:53] <ircbglad> np
[04:53] <floppyears> hi
[04:53] <cjones> how do you run a app on term with shortcut key strokes ?
[04:53] <floppyears> I have screen running on my ubuntu machine
[04:53] <floppyears> and my other computer uses xterm-colors
[04:53] <floppyears> in TERM
[04:53] <floppyears> but when I ssh to ubuntu the backspace key doesn't work :(
[04:53] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  XP.  The file I want to locate though is in /tmp/disks-conf-hda1/Torrents/  , which is what I want to move to my linux desktop
[04:53] <floppyears> this is a problem with screen
[04:54] <floppyears> can someobdy help me fix it ?
[04:54] <cjones> terminal
[04:54] <floppyears> ?
[04:54] <blind> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:54] <blind> any good FPS games for ubuntu? :P
[04:55] <SpecialBuddy> hey
[04:55] <green_earz>  /quit
[04:56] <blind> you missed.
[04:56] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, cd into /tmp/disks-conf-hda1/Torrents/ and type   ls    noting that linux is sensitive to capitol letters, note the filename(s) you want, and type cp <filename> /home/sonic/Desktop     where <filename> is the name of the file, repeat for any other files, cant do multiple files with one line easily
[04:56] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, if you want EVERYTHING in the Torrents dir you can skip the cp step for a faster one
[04:56] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, which is while in the Torrents directory, cp ./* /home/sonic/Desktop
[04:57] <sonic> Chris_Tucker:  excellent, thanks very much for your instructions!
[04:57] <Chris_Tucker> sonic, not a prob, now i get some sleep ;)
[04:58] <CJ__> hello?
[04:59] <NickGarvey> hello!
[04:59] <dager> hey!
[04:59] <NickGarvey> you can boot from extended partitions right?
[04:59] <CJ__> i need some help have i come to the right place?
[04:59] <NickGarvey> yup
[04:59] <CJ__> great! now i hope someone can help me out
[04:59] <NickGarvey> pretty.. dead in here
[04:59] <NickGarvey> !ping
[04:59] <ubotu> pong
[04:59] <PhilKC> !pong
[04:59] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PhilKC
[05:00] <NickGarvey> haha you are quick
[05:00] <kingspawn> NickGarvey: gentoo, I hear?
[05:00] <CJ__> how much do you guys know about ubunto?
[05:00] <CJ__> u
[05:00] <NickGarvey> kingspawn: trying.. its not booting..
[05:01] <bosco> has anyone messed with the timeout for sudo
[05:01] <kingspawn> bosco: yeah.
[05:01] <kingspawn> NickGarvey: oh?
[05:01] <bosco> kingspawn, how do i change it
[05:01] <NickGarvey> kingspawn: yeah.. I think I messed up the boot loader, tried a boot loader off a cd and didn't even see the gentoo partition..
[05:01] <kingspawn> bosco: in /etc/sudoers, using command "sudo visudoers"
[05:01] <megadeth> a chilean?
[05:01] <CJ__> i can't get into my comp i forgot my user id and password for ubuntu is there anyway i can get in and change it or bypass it?
[05:02] <kingspawn> NickGarvey: Ouch. So you leaving us if you get it up and running? :)
[05:02] <NickGarvey> kingspawn: of course not, I use suse now and I am still in here heh
[05:02] <dager> CJ__ Boot from a LiveCD?
[05:02] <kingspawn> CJ__: boot the rescue mode off grub
[05:02] <NickGarvey> kingspawn: (ubuntu didn't work with my wireless card)
[05:02] <CJ__> i tried to boot from the rescue mode it didn't work
[05:02] <NickGarvey> CJ__: what happened?
[05:02] <CJ__> it still asks for login and password
[05:02] <kingspawn> NickGarvey: heheh, I dont actually use Ubuntu either, I just think its a great way to attract attention to the free software-world
[05:03] <kingspawn> CJ__: then a livecd it is
[05:03] <CJ__> i don't have one...it's gone :(
[05:03] <bosco> kingspawn, so what do i change in the file
[05:03] <dager> CJ__: I'd suggest burning a recovery livecd, like Auditor or BackTrack, so you can get your password back pretty easily
[05:03] <yamathan> Hey, for some reason I can't get a GTK+-based application running under either KDE or GNOME.
[05:04] <FennyLAP> can someone help me with a grub install
[05:04] <yamathan> I should imagine that all of the GTK libraries involved are installed, so ...
[05:04] <FennyLAP> im in knoppix trying to get grub installed to the correct drive
[05:04] <FennyLAP> I am at grub> in a sonole
[05:04] <kingspawn> bosco: I suggest "man sudoers" - but what you change is "timestampp_timeout"
[05:04] <FennyLAP> console
[05:04] <CJ__> well i don't think that's the only problem... i've been away at school and i think someone messed with it and nothing i've tried has worked
[05:04] <kingspawn> bosco: "timestamp_timeout"
[05:04] <FennyLAP> I dont know how to find out what drive I want
[05:04] <blind> They wouldn't happen to have a version of GTA for ubuntu, would they? >_>
[05:04] <NickGarvey> CJ__: there is a way.. to get into a root console.. tad tricky though
[05:04] <bosco> kingspawn, there is no timestampp_tomout in my file
[05:04] <kingspawn> blind: ... :)
[05:04] <yamathan> Grand Theft Auto?
[05:04] <eno__> dear Gods of Ubuntu!  Shine on me!
[05:04] <blind> yes
[05:04] <kingspawn> bosco: that means you add it
[05:05] <doms_> same problem
[05:05] <blind> kingspawn, what was that smile for? :P
[05:05] <doms_> ssh 192.168.2.100
[05:05] <doms_> refusef
[05:05] <doms_> why
[05:05] <bosco> oh ok
[05:05] <kingspawn> blind: who knows?
[05:05] <CJ__> can you help me? i'm freaking out :(
[05:05] <NickGarvey> CJ__: http://www.webpronews.com/it/operatingsystems/wpn-22-20040209LostRootPasswordLinux.html
[05:05] <blind> oh ffs. i have to clean my desk.
[05:05] <yamathan> Well, I was trying to prove to a visitor at my house that, yes, Linux'ers have very "special" image/video managers as well as Windows users.
[05:05] <doms_> but i can ping it 192.168.2.100
[05:05] <doms_> 64 bytes from 192.168.2.100: icmp_seq=18 ttl=64 time=0.152 ms
[05:05] <yamathan> Unfortunately pornview halted at "autodetecting video driver".
[05:06] <blind> I bought a pair of headphones from walmart for a dollar.
[05:06] <blind> Don't do that
[05:06] <NickGarvey> yamathan: shame..
[05:06] <doms_> but when i type ssh 192.168.100  it says refused
[05:06] <NickGarvey> doms_: are you running a ssh server..
[05:06] <yamathan> I can't seem to find documentation for pornview anywhere.
[05:06] <dager> aside from its suggestive name, pornview is a very good video/image viewer.. dont think its still actively developed though
[05:06] <yamathan> Is it dependent on video drivers I don't have?
[05:06] <CJ__> wow that's a lot of stuff!!!
[05:06] <doms_> even in samba share i cant see my ubuntu box
[05:07] <yamathan> "man pornview" doesn't give me much information at all.
[05:07] <yamathan> The Scourgeforce page doesn't give me much more than >man pornview.
[05:07] <kingspawn> yamathan: mostly, using apps that are no longer developed arent advisable, heh
[05:07] <noiesmo> yamathan, i think from memory that it uses xine
[05:07] <yamathan> True enough.
[05:07] <doms_> even in my samba share i cant see my ubuntu box; how do fix this
[05:07] <Tarantulafudge> So does flash sound work ok yet?
[05:07] <doms_> even in my samba share i cant see my ubuntu box; how do fix this
[05:08] <Tarantulafudge> In firefox, i eman
[05:08] <yamathan> Huh.  But I thought I had virtually every xine plugin and library installed.
[05:08] <Tarantulafudge> i mean*
[05:08] <yamathan> *no "but"
[05:08] <noiesmo> yamathan, the more i think yes xine then xine set to use codecs
[05:08] <yamathan> As in >xine set, or do you mean do set up the codecs through opening xine and whatnot?
[05:08] <doms_> do i need something to change /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:09] <doms_> because they cant see each other my two ubuntu box
[05:09] <CJ__> i managed to change one user name and password through grub but it didn't do anything when it came to the ubuntu login and password
[05:09] <noiesmo> yamathan, I would get codec pack from mplayer essentials put hten in /usr/lib/win32
[05:09] <yamathan> Hmm.
[05:09] <yamathan> Okie dokie.
[05:09] <NickGarvey> CJ__: basicly, you change a boot line temp, and then bam root prompt
[05:09] <noiesmo> yamathan, in xine you can set codec location
[05:10] <yamathan> I was under the assumption I already did that.
[05:10] <CJ__> in english please? lol
[05:10] <noiesmo> yamathan, default is /usr/lib/win32
[05:10] <doms_> iam freaking over two ubuntu box
[05:10] <blind> www.linuxcompatible.org == my new best friend
[05:10] <doms_> coz they cant see each other
[05:10] <yamathan> No, I meant I already have mplayer essentials on here.
[05:10] <slavik> is there a program to give me the readout of what key is being pressed? my lappy has a key to toggle wifi and it doesn't work in dapper (it worked weird in breezy)
[05:11] <noiesmo> yamathan, install xine-ui then configure i think youll find it will do it
[05:11] <bit_doidao> hello all, how to set the video resolution to up than 800x640?
[05:11] <blind> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:11] <yamathan> Okay than.
[05:11] <yamathan> Thanks!
[05:11] <yamathan> *then
[05:11] <noiesmo> yamathan, np
[05:12] <bit_doidao> at the live cd, everythings runned owk, the after install, it only have 800X...
[05:12] <blind> 800x640? that's a weird resolution.
[05:12] <yamathan> I felt like a total dweeb when I read that pornview worked with one hand only and I thought, "Space Ghost will be so much easier to watch!"  XD
[05:12] <blind> but yeah, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:12] <noiesmo> ubotu, tell bit_doidao about res
[05:12] <bit_doidao> blind: i check the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and there had the three common was there...
[05:13] <CJ__> hello?
[05:13] <blind> hi
[05:13] <yamathan> xine-ui, right?
[05:13] <noiesmo> yep
[05:14] <iceman> Anyone know how I can MOunt a Unix file system cd and read it ?
[05:14] <bit_doidao> blind: sorry, it was 640x400
[05:14] <blind> 640x400??
[05:14] <blind> or 640x480?
[05:14] <bit_doidao> yes
[05:15] <rukuartic> So how would I wall a message to the entire system?
[05:15] <CJ__> nick?
[05:15] <bit_doidao> blind: 640x480
[05:15] <paloyme> how do i check my kernel version no.?
[05:15] <rukuartic> paloyme: uname -r
[05:15] <paloyme> thank you rukuartic
[05:16] <iceman> How the heck to Mount a UNIX file system cd and access it ? anyone ?
[05:16] <rukuartic> paloyme: No problem ^_^ You can do a whole lot with it too, "man uname"
[05:16] <bit_doidao> ubotu == bot:?
[05:16] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bit_doidao
[05:16] <bit_doidao> cooooooooooooooooooooool
[05:16] <paloyme> how do i update my kernel?
[05:16] <rukuartic> bit_doidao: Heheh... don't abuse it! O-o
[05:17] <earthen> anyone know the ETA on draper final release
[05:17] <_jason> earthen: June 1st
[05:17] <earthen> :)
[05:17] <CJ__> can anyone help me please?
[05:17] <_jason> !helpme
[05:17] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[05:17] <biovore> earthen: june I think
[05:17] <slavik> rofl
[05:17] <rukuartic> CJ__: Ask aways.
[05:18] <slavik> HP_Administrator: nice nick
[05:18] <rukuartic> earthen: If ya have more questions about dapper, they're welcome in #ubuntu+1
[05:18] <iceman> Windows cannot read this CD... but everythin i have read says linux should be able to ... how to enable UNIX File Support in UBUNTU ?
[05:18] <earthen> can't want, my ferrari laptop is screamming for it
[05:18] <HP_Administrator> slavik: thanks.
[05:18] <slavik> HP_Administrator: how truthful is it?
[05:18] <CJ__> i can't get into my comp because i can't get past the ubuntu login and password
[05:18] <rukuartic> earthen: I'm just wishing my computer was faster. I tried flight 6 live on my faster box. sooo beautiful...
[05:18] <earthen> rukuartic,  is the a form just for draper
[05:18] <tokenbad_> sorry I missed if anyone answered this...but does anyone have a page that explains an easy way to share files between ubuntu and windows?
[05:18] <HP_Administrator> slavik: very on my own hp windows media center...lol
[05:18] <CJ__> i can't remember it and i don't have a disk
[05:18] <paloyme> how do i upgrade my linux kernel?
[05:18] <slavik> hehe
[05:18] <rukuartic> CJ__: Do you know your usrname and password?
[05:18] <paloyme> update i mean
[05:19] <rukuartic> !kernel
[05:19] <kikmalran> algum brasileiro ai?
[05:19] <paloyme> !kernel
[05:19] <earthen> rukuartic, what is flight 6 line?
[05:19] <bit_doidao> kikmalran: ol!
[05:19] <HP_Administrator> Anyone know if I can install ubuntu on a 200 mhz (mmx) laptop?
[05:19] <dager> !popcorn
[05:19] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dager
[05:19] <rukuartic> paloyme: I have no clue...
[05:19] <kikmalran> eu gostaria de uma ajuda!
[05:19] <earthen> live*
[05:19] <paloyme> ok, thenks
[05:19] <HP_Administrator> Also, over network.
[05:19] <CJ__> i can't remember it..... i've been away this is the first time i'm trying to use it in a very long time... it's my old comp
[05:19] <bit_doidao> kikmalran: pvt!
[05:19] <tritium> !br
[05:19] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:19] <rukuartic> earthen: Flight 6 was the 6th alpha of dapper drake, and it was a LiveCD (not life :P)
[05:19] <Madpilot> hi all
[05:19] <iceman_> Shoot how to access UNIX cd on ubuntu
[05:19] <tritium> hi Madpilot
[05:19] <rukuartic> CJ__: Do you have any sensitive data on it?
[05:20] <earthen> rukuartic, O I C
[05:20] <bit_doidao> Wow! Ubotu recognized that kikmalran is a brazilian! ubotu rulez
[05:20] <CJ__> yes that's why i'm trying to get into it
[05:20] <jadaz87> hello everyone so i am trying to remove the openofice.org2-help-en-us with aptitude purge and now it wants to remove language-support-en openoffice.org2-l10n-en-us ubuntu-live is that a smart idea?
[05:20] <iceman> modprobe ufs; mount -t ufs -o ufstype=nextstep-cd /dev/cdrom /mnt/whatever
[05:20] <Madpilot> bit_doidao, actually, tritium triggered the bot to give the brazillian one
[05:20] <slavik> jadaz87: why remove?
[05:20] <earthen> rukuartic,  I have had a friend of mine trying to help me install gentoo and after 4 weeks and it's still not working I'm getting a little fustrated
[05:20] <rukuartic> jadaz87: Why on earth wouldn't you want help? :O I mean, thats so essential!!!! /sarcasm
[05:21] <rukuartic> earthen: Live CD's are friendly
[05:21] <bit_doidao> kikmalran: pode falar :)
[05:21] <yamathan_> Hmm.
[05:21] <Inner|RE> Gentoo is hard to install
[05:21] <yamathan_> I can't seem to get xine-ui to do anything.
[05:21] <kikmalran> eu instalei o ubuntu gostaria de umas dicas...!
[05:21] <NickGarvey> !es
[05:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:21] <jadaz87> slavik rukuartic removing packages off of live cd
[05:21] <bit_doidao> kikmalran: vamos conversar no pvt....
[05:21] <kikmalran> ok
[05:22] <rukuartic> jadaz87: What now? Removing packages from a Live CD?
[05:22] <slavik> what for? it's a livecd
[05:22] <HP_Administrator> Sorry, totally new, but which is latest hoary, dapper, or breezy?
[05:22] <lutra> HP_Administrator: breezy
[05:22] <rukuartic> HP_Administrator: Stable is Breezy
[05:22] <lutra> HP_Administrator: dapper is in the development
[05:22] <NickGarvey> dapper is beta
[05:22] <rukuartic> HP_Administrator: Next is Dapper
[05:22] <HP_Administrator> lutra: Thanks
[05:22] <earthen> rukuartic, I have Ubuntu on 2 of my desktops, I just got the new AMD 64 Acer Ferrari laptop but i fugure I wanted to wait for draper to install it
[05:22] <HP_Administrator> et al
[05:22] <iceman> anyone know how to copy read only files from a cd
[05:23] <iceman> wow got the unix cd loaded
[05:23] <rukuartic> earthen: Good idea. You could try a live CD though. What it does is loads itself into your RAM, so as soon as you shutdown and reboot the computer, it restores to your hard drive
[05:23] <rukuartic> earthen: Nothing changes, in essence
[05:23] <rukuartic> iceman: "mv /dir/to/file /dir/to/new/place
[05:23] <kikmalran> bit_doidao pvt-me
[05:23] <rukuartic> iceman: Then might need to chmod/chown it.
[05:24] <_jason> earthen: how come? you can just upgrade on that day (or try the beta now)
[05:24] <bit_doidao> kikmalran: mais pra onde?!
[05:24] <CJ__> the only thing i've managed to change is the root user login and password but it's still asked for an ubuntu login and password i can't get past it
[05:24] <bit_doidao> kikmalran: digita: /join #ubuntu-br
[05:24] <tritium> bit_doidao: english here please
[05:24] <slavik> anyone recommend any games?
[05:24] <iceman> rukuartic it's a cd ... can i drag and drop the files ?
[05:24] <rukuartic> iceman: That works as well :P
[05:24] <rukuartic> iceman: I work mainly from a console so
[05:24] <earthen> rukuartic, O i know about the live cd i'v actully had it running for a few days on the breezy live cd I even did the updates and installed the ati 3d drivers and wifi stuff  it turned off one day when i left the power unpluged and the battery went dead LOL
[05:25] <bit_doidao> tritium: sorry, new user, im trying to send him to ubuntu-br or talk at pvt. really sorry :)
[05:25] <yamathan_> No luck with pornview.
[05:25] <tritium> bit_doidao: no problem at all :)
[05:25] <iceman> I'm still learning command line ... trying to copy the NeXTSTEP cd rom files ...
[05:25] <rukuartic> CJ__: It'd be understandable if you forgot your password, but its very suspicious that you forgot your username
[05:25] <iceman> How to mount my fat32 harddrive ..
[05:25] <rukuartic> !fat32
[05:25] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:25] <CJ__> i haven't used this comp in like 4 years
[05:25] <earthen> _jason,  I don't knw really i just like a new install when w new version comes out
[05:26] <rukuartic> CJ__: What version of Ubuntu is it running again?
[05:26] <iceman> rukuartic ... will slave it in xc and copy the Nextstep frile from it
[05:26] <iceman> nexer have mastered samba
[05:26] <CJ__> 5.04 horay hedgehog
[05:27] <Aqutavia> anyone know what the minimal ammount of video memory is required to run the latest verson of ubuntu live cd? my old laptop has 2.5mb
[05:27] <rukuartic> CJ__: And you haven't used it for about four years?
[05:27] <Illnor> Hi, is it possible to change my 64 bit install to a 32 bit one without totally wiping out everything?
[05:27] <CJ__> well probably not that long...that was a gross exageration
[05:28] <CJ__> it's been awhile though
[05:28] <iceman> rukuartic i'm just happy at this point to get access to NeXTSTEP Operating system cd ...
[05:28] <jadaz87> rukuartic slavik live cd customization
[05:28] <earthen> rukuartic,  one thing I'd like to get working is LIVE Cd on my thumdrive but where I can save settings
[05:28] <CJ__> i let a friend of mine use it and now it's all screwed up
[05:28] <jadaz87> rukuartic slavik trying to make it small as possible i am coming out with a microubuntu
[05:28] <CJ__> i just got it back and i can't get into it
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> Illnor,  ya could just backup your /home -  but no easy way to do wha tyou want.
[05:29] <earthen> jadaz87,  will that install on a thumdrive
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> Aqutavia,  i ran ubuntu on a Pent100 laptop. with very little video ram. (i forget how much)  ya could always become a Console Commando!
[05:30] <rukuartic> CJ__: Hmm. Well my guess is since Hoary came out in 2005, You're not telling the complete truth. Fact is, we can't help you login if you don't know the user, OR password. At least I can't.
[05:30] <iceman> wow access to Nextstep files ...:)
[05:31] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> hello everybody
[05:31] <iceman> The original Apple Unix which evolved to become OSX
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> i thought they used BSD
[05:31] <Aqutavia> dr_willis: my problem is that i cant seem to get live cd to boot propory on my hp omnibook 4150. the LCD is bad... and im using the video ouptput on the laptop to view it on a CRT.
[05:31] <jadaz87> earthen hopefully i will get it down to being able to be on a 256MB thumbdrive with room for documents, etc.
[05:31] <jadaz87> they do use bsd
[05:31] <cafuego> Dr_Willis: they did, freebsd
[05:32] <CJ__> i'm telling the truth nothing is working on this thing...i have a new comp this one is older..i knew it was a mistake to dl this stupid thing on here.....now my comp is useless
[05:32] <Aqutavia> dr_willis boot improporly i mean... screen resolution in gui is incorrect. and looks like scambled nonescense.
[05:32] <earthen> jadaz87,  that would be sweet and should do nicely on my 1gig drive
[05:32] <iceman> NeXTSTEP was the original BSD code .... It was NeXTSTEP "Next computers" original OS ... the OS which helped create the world wide web ...
[05:32] <cafuego> OSX is a weird version of freebsd and KDE, with the ugly parts removed ;-)
[05:32] <jadaz87> earthen yes very so :-)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Aqutavia,  that could be a driver issue.
[05:33] <iceman> NextStep was the Internets Foundation.... It started in Next Operating systemmm "Steve Jobs" Company when he left Apple
[05:33] <Aqutavia> dr_willis what are the steps i should take in attempting to fix this issue?
[05:33] <HP_Administrator> Can anyone point me to instructions on how to net-install ubuntu??
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[05:33] <ubotu> well, fixres is Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:33] <NickGarvey> !netboot
[05:33] <ubotu> I guess netboot is a method of installing Ubuntu over a network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[05:33] <rukuartic> CJ__: You still have your windows install CD?
[05:33] <CJ__> yeah
[05:34] <Aqutavia> dr_willis i tryed sudo "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in the console to change some settings. but it didnt seem to fix anything.
[05:34] <HP_Administrator> I like bots
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Aqutavia,  may want to google for the exact laptop and 'liniux' and see if anyone else has had any problems..
[05:35] <Aqutavia> dr_willis is there something like a "safe mode" where it starts the gui in a verry low resolution?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Aqutavia,  it could be your monitor settings are wrong and not the video card swettings
[05:35] <CJ__> i have my windows cd yes...why?
[05:36] <Aqutavia> im using a 17" ctl monitor.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> Aqutavia,  not really. :P  X is just one of many programs..  the console is the difinitive safe mode
[05:36] <Illnor> I have a dual boot between kubuntu64 and xp32.. when i start in kubuntu the screen is shifted a bit to the right.. how do i get it to be in the same spot as the xp os?
[05:36] <rukuartic> CJ__: If linux ain't your thing, you can go back.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> Illnor,  on a CRT monitor?
[05:36] <CJ__> really? how? this comp won't even boot up
[05:36] <iceman> Wish I could run the next step floppy from inside Linux and remaster it
[05:36] <Illnor> no, flat Viewsonic VG700 17in
[05:36] <rukuartic> CJ__: Ok, so you've gone from you can't login, to you can't even boot?
[05:37] <Aqutavia> the reason i have to use an external display is cuz the invernter is bad on the lcd.
[05:37] <CJ__> i can't boot up the comp past the login and password...therefore i can't get into anything
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Illnor,  hmm.. never noticed any issues like that with lcd's -  seen it with CRT's and not using the same refresh rates..  not sure where you shoudl even begin.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Login: is booted up
[05:38] <iceman> God how to Install NeXTSTEP ...
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:38] <Illnor> well, i'm sure its about the different FV and FH values
[05:38] <Illnor> because I can check them, and they are indeed different for XP and ubuntu.. but even if I alter the xorg.conf, it doesn't listen to the values i put in
[05:38] <rukuartic> CJ__: You can do this. Grab another drive, install a OS that can read ext3. Grab your files, or burn to a CD and move to an OS you're more comfortable with
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Illnor,  you are restarting X after changing the file?
[05:40] <damian_> Hi can someone gfill me in on why dvd's play slow and freeeze even for 30 seconds at a time and why ripping a cd takes 4 hours i know theres a setting i have to change dma or something ive done it before just cant figure it out now
[05:40] <Illnor> ctl alt backspace right
[05:40] <CJ__> i have no idea how to do that.......i can't even remember a login and password let alone do that...
[05:40] <jerware> ever hear of a bat wing?
[05:40] <blind> LOL
[05:40] <blind> it's so veiny!
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> !dma
[05:40] <jerware> lmao
[05:40] <Illnor> i've also noticed that ubuntu seems to view the internet slower than xp.. any way to fix that ?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:41] <blind> illnor, i don't have that problem. i've noticed a better connection speed on ubuntu, actually.
[05:41] <themachine> view the internet rather fast on ubuntu
[05:41] <themachine> I*
[05:41] <blind> I hit 700kb/s on a torrent. I was so happy :D
[05:41] <damian_> thats the doco thanks dr_willis
[05:42] <NickGarvey> blind: nice.. I hit 450 and I was happy heh
[05:42] <blind> NickGarvey, I was ecstatic.
[05:42] <rukuartic> CJ__: If you're really concerned about your files, you need to contact someone who can recover your data for you, unless someone here knows how to get username's and passwords.
[05:42] <Illnor> isn't there also some "trick" to get ubuntu to boot faster.. basically making all the startup processes go at once rather than one after the other
[05:43] <iceman> Now how to Read a UNIX floppy ?
[05:43] <rukuartic> iceman: mountfd I think
[05:44] <rukuartic> Illnor: I remember reading something about that. I'd be much appreciated if you can find a link.
[05:45] <Illnor> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[05:45] <iceman> rukuartic floppy is already mounted ? wonder if i'll have to unmount and remount ?
[05:45] <rukuartic> Illnor: Thanks
[05:45] <rukuartic> iceman: I've never done a whole lot with that :P
[05:46] <iceman> Copy the dang NeXTSTEP files to a Harddrive... Cant get it installed ... But i want it moved where I can access it from VMWARE and QEMU ....
[05:47] <iceman> Might be able to Emiulate it
[05:47] <CJ__> so there's no way to reset my ubuntu login and password?
[05:47] <_jason> CJ__: there is
[05:48] <damian_> offtopic: anyone have the mac os tiger x86 vmware images and wanna send or upload somewhere
[05:48] <specialbuddy> can anyone help me out with scripts
[05:48] <rukuartic> _jason: He doesn't know his login/pw..
[05:48] <_jason> CJ__: you don't know your username?
[05:48] <_jason> CJ__: are you ``ok'' with the command line?
[05:48] <Elly> hey guys
[05:48] <damian_> sup
[05:48] <Elly> how do I install the Sun JVM on ubuntu? there doesn't appear to be an apt package
[05:48] <CJ__> i can't remember it i made it different so no one else would know it and then i forgot it
[05:48] <Nurie> hai
[05:48] <rob> !java
[05:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:49] <Nurie> hai
[05:49] <Elly> !javadebs
[05:49] <damian_> Elly java is available enable all the restricted repositories in synaptic refresh then search "blackdown"
[05:49] <specialbuddy> does anyone know how to make a script to tell if someone is running vnc
[05:49] <Nurie> hai
[05:50] <Nurie> haui
[05:50] <rukuartic> specialbuddy: "ps aux | grep vnc"
[05:50] <specialbuddy> can you do that for specific users though
[05:52] <Nurie> hai
[05:52] <NickGarvey> hello
[05:52] <HP_Administrator> Can I start the linux kernal with loadlin.exe?
[05:54] <cyphase> :O
[05:54] <cyphase> omg
[05:54] <cyphase> http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/linux-european-threat-to-our-computers.html
[05:54] <CJ__> i think i'm gonna give up on this and just get rid of the comp i'll have to deal with the loss
[05:54] <cyphase> this can't be real..
[05:54] <zyth> Linux: The Deadly Communist threat to capitalism!
[05:54] <cyphase> lol
[05:54] <rukuartic> CJ__: Your choice... You can save your files but it just takes a litle work.
[05:55] <rukuartic> specialbuddy: Yep, just add another line in there "| grep <username>
[05:55] <cyphase> linux does more for capitalism then windows by far
[05:55] <zyth> PPC Question: Is ubuntu going to run faster than MacOS X on a g3?
[05:55] <rukuartic> Shelly the Republican's generally good o-o
[05:55] <CJ__> i don't have anyone that can help me.......and i can't do it.....i can't even remember a simple login and password
[05:55] <nomasteryoda> zyth, i'll bet it does...
[05:55] <zyth> CJ__, boot in single user mode.
[05:55] <specialbuddy> thanks
[05:55] <_jason> CJ__: please join me in -offtopic, that link is hilarious
[05:56] <_jason> cyphase: please join me in -offtopic, that link is hilarious
[05:56] <_jason> CJ__: sorry, name error
[05:56] <specialbuddy> I need to make a script that where I can type ./vncanyone and it will determine if they are using it or not
[05:57] <CJ__> how do i boot in single mode......god i'm confused by all of this... i'm not real computer literate
[05:57] <penus> ubuntu install cd wont let me resize the ntfs patitions
[05:57] <zyth> CJ__, at the main prompt, when you boot where it says Boot: type 'linux single'
[05:57] <narg> is there any reason that in a breezy server installation, /etc/cron.daily doesn't run a script in it?
[05:57] <shizzz> has anyone had a chance to load the server version of ubuntu?
[05:58] <Kyral> narg: because there is nothing to run?
[05:58] <zyth> shizzz, yes
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> shizzz,  i did once.. by mistake.. :P
[05:58] <shizzz> how is it?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> i reinstalled the normal.
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> lol..
[05:58] <zyth> shizzz, linuxy.  with no gui :)
[05:58] <narg> Kyral: ? The script is valid...
[05:58] <Kyral> narg: eh? Placeholder?
[05:58] <shizzz> it it just like the desktop version but with more admin features
[05:58] <mr> ubuntu install cd wont let me resize the ntfs patitions
[05:58] <CJ__> ok then what?
[05:58] <shizzz> really
[05:58] <shizzz> no gui
[05:58] <Kyral> BYW, nothing wrong with no GUI :P
[05:58] <specialbuddy> mr I don't think you can
[05:58] <zyth> mr: that's cause writing to NTFS and messing with it is baaaad.
[05:58] <narg> Kyral: what do you mean?
[05:58] <Kyral> narg: what script is there?
[05:59] <Kyral> narg: /etc/cron.daily is a directory
[05:59] <narg> Kyral: one I made; its just a common sh script.
[05:59] <shizzz> zyth are you serious no gui
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> True Linux Snobs consider the console a gui. :P
[05:59] <shizzz> thats weird
[05:59] <zyth> shizzz, not by default, it IS the server mode
[05:59] <specialbuddy> mr, install and use gparted or try Partition magic
[05:59] <Kyral> narg: you need to chmod +x is
[05:59] <shizzz> ah
[05:59] <Kyral> it evem
[05:59] <zyth> Dr_Willis, I run X via AAlib ;)
[05:59] <narg> Kyral: yes, my script is IN cron.daily, and its executable.
[05:59] <shizzz> is there a gui if ya activate it
[05:59] <KirbyKing> Does anyone know how I can find the name of my sound card?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> AAquake !
[05:59] <Madpilot> shizzz, the server & desktop versions both have the same admin features available...
[05:59] <Kyral> narg: then I dunno
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> aaxine!
[05:59] <KirbyKing> I dont know how to navigate thru these menus and such..
[05:59] <zyth> shizzz, sure.  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:59] <Kyral> narg: try making it touch a file
[05:59] <narg> Kyral: do I need to chown it to cron?
[06:00] <shizzz> are you sure Madpilot
[06:00] <Kyral> narg: no
[06:00] <Kyral> root maybe
[06:00] <earthen> shizzz, most linux server have no gui
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> KirbyKing,  'sudo lspci | less'
[06:00] <mr> helllllllllllll...no last time i tried partition magis it damaged my othere ntfs drive now im still trying to fix it
[06:00] <KirbyKing> Thanks
[06:00] <Kyral> shizzz: like my Xen server
[06:00] <shizzz> yeah i know but ubuntu is sorta getting futuristic
[06:00] <Kyral> X is just needless overhead on a server
[06:00] <earthen> shizzz,  it's a waist or resorces
[06:01] <Madpilot> shizzz, all the terminal commands work in the desktop versions just like they do in the server version
[06:01] <Kyral> then again I run ArchLinux on my desktop and laptop :P
[06:01] <shizzz> yeah but for admin routines it should be fine then disable them
[06:01] <specialbuddy> yeah the same thing happen to me but that's your best bet
[06:01] <specialbuddy> or gparted
[06:01] <batWing> a bat wing is when one pulls and stretches his ball bag out nice and flat.  veiny!!
[06:01] <earthen> shizzz, most servers are ment to be set up an put in a corner someplace and hardly tuched
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu really kicks booty - compared to the other distos ive tried on my laptop
[06:01] <batWing> xD like a bat wing
[06:01] <zyth> earthen, I use FreeBSD for those.  rock solid.
[06:01] <specialbuddy> but if you have windows on the ntfs drive then it probably won't work
[06:01] <shizzz> so the two kernals are have the same functionality exepct for performance
[06:01] <shizzz> im not sure about that
[06:01] <Kyral> Eh right now I don't like Ubuntu honestly, does too much for me lol
[06:01] <zyth> shizzz, it's just what programs you run on it.
[06:02] <zyth> that's it.
[06:02] <specialbuddy> only way to resize partition with windows is with Partition Magic I think
[06:02] <earthen> zyth, I haven't used FreeBSD yet but i've heard good things about it
[06:02] <Kyral> like "WTF!? I don't have RAID! Why is RAID services starting?>!
[06:02] <shizzz> i think that there are some other differences
[06:02] <zyth> Kyral, got SATA?
[06:02] <Kyral> zyth: SATA != RAID
[06:03] <zyth> Kyral, yep, but that'd be why it's starting...
[06:03] <earthen> zyth, I've just replaced all of the gatway servers at the local schools where I work with Ubuntu servers
[06:03] <Kyral> I run my SATA HD quite fine without RAID starting
[06:03] <zyth> Kyral, then remove it from your init.
[06:03] <HP_Administrator> what is /dev/rd/0 considered to be?
[06:03] <Kyral> zyth: its a pain on Ubuntu really
[06:03] <zyth> earthen, cool :)
[06:03] <zyth> Kyral, it's one # in a config file.  how hard is that? :P
[06:03] <earthen> zyth,  does danguardian run on FreeBSD?
[06:03] <zyth> earthen, I have no idea, sorry
[06:04] <mr> the first tme i shrunk my ntfs partition on computer1 then i tried to do it agin with the same ubuntu cd and it dident let me first thing i tried was that partition magic now windows wont boot not happening on thios computer any other ideas
[06:04] <Kyral> zyth: ArchLinux's rc.conf is one of the best things in terms of module and bootscript management IMO
[06:04] <earthen> zyth, thats a great program for schools
[06:04] <zyth> Kyral, never messed with it, I'll have to look at it some time.
[06:04] <Kyral> zyth: the rc.conf? You almost HAVE to in Arch
[06:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell batWing about ircrules
[06:04] <paloyme> how do you know if your kernel headers are installed?
[06:04] <earthen> zyth, it's a web and porn filter
[06:04] <shizzz> zyth are you trying to adjust your ntfs partition from within side ubuntu?
[06:04] <paloyme> !kernel
[06:04] <zyth> shizzz, UHHH NO.
[06:04] <zyth> er uhh no
[06:05] <Kyral> JFS rules BTW :P
[06:05] <zyth> shizzz, I have a Mac.  No NTFS for me.
[06:05] <shizzz> ah
[06:05] <yamathan> Hmm.
[06:05] <specialbuddy> well I don't think you can use ubuntu to resize ntfs
[06:05] <Kyral> oh hey nalioth -ELATE
[06:05] <shizzz> mac os x
[06:05] <shizzz> ?
[06:05] <Nurie> haui
[06:05] <yamathan> I came in here earlier because pornview wasn't working properly and I didn't know why.
[06:05] <nalioth> Kyral: ?
[06:05] <zyth> Darwin Kyles-Computer.local 7.9.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0: Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC  Power Macintosh powerpc
[06:05] <zyth> yep.
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Ive resized ntfs with the gentoo installer - i think
[06:05] <TokenBad>  j
[06:05] <Kyral> nalioth: dunno felt like saying hi :P
[06:05] <Nurie> hai
[06:05] <nalioth> specialbuddy: yes you can resize ntfs with ubuntu
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> a long time ago
[06:05] <yamathan> I can't remember the advice that was given to me.
[06:05] <shizzz> hwo do you like it. my gf has an ibook
[06:06] <rukuartic> Hey, to clarify that? The link someone posted about shellytherepublican and linux was bogus.
[06:06] <specialbuddy> I don't think you can with something on it
[06:06] <shizzz> im thinking of getting one myself
[06:06] <nalioth> !offtopic
[06:06] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:06] <zyth> sorry nalioth
[06:06] <Kyral> What about FileSystem Wars?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> it was on my new laptop.. :P first day.. hadent been running an hr.. and i was putting linux on it.
[06:06] <Nurie> hai
[06:06] <shizzz> i heard that you can actually boot up windows xp, mac os x and linux from a mac os x machine
[06:06] <Madpilot> Kyral, -offtopic for those too :P
[06:07] <shizzz> zyth have you heard of that new hack
[06:07] <mr> specialbuddy thats just it the first time i tried to resize it was with the ubuntu install cd and it worked
[06:07] <Nurie> hai
[06:07] <Kyral> Nurie: Hai
[06:07] <specialbuddy> I don't know then
[06:08] <specialbuddy> Partition Magic worked good for me until I did a dual boot and then it messed it up so I couldn't use it anymore on the harddrive
[06:08] <paloyme> how do you know if your kernel headers are installed?
[06:08] <shizzz> so is anyone running the jfs
[06:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell paloyme about headers
[06:08] <paloyme> thenks
[06:09] <shizzz> i was wondering if you can upgrade from ext3 to ibms jfs without reinstalling the entire system
[06:09] <nalioth> shizzz: probably not
[06:09] <shizzz> yeahi didnt think so
[06:10] <mr> hey is the g in gnome silent
[06:10] <shizzz> you can upgrade from ext2 to ext 3 inplace but thats about it
[06:10] <Madpilot> mr, that seems to depend on who you talk to
[06:10] <Madpilot> ;)
[06:10] <mr> linus travelds
[06:11] <shizzz> hey, nalioth how long have you been playing with ubuntu
[06:11] <nalioth> shizzz: since warty was a glimmer
[06:12] <Nurie> hai
[06:12] <shizzz> have you had any experience with other distros
[06:12] <nalioth> shizzz: i have used several different distros. join me in #ubuntu-offtopic for more on this, if you like
[06:12] <HP_Administrator> Does anyone know which device /dev/rd/0 is?
[06:12] <shizzz> sure
[06:13] <shizzz> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:13] <eod_punk> hello all, I am new to ubuntu (just installed today) I'm having a hard time figuring how to update firefox to the current version
[06:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell eod_punk about firefox15
[06:14] <eod_punk> nalioth: thank you
[06:14] <encKe`> apt-get moo
[06:15] <blazemonger> i just installed ubuntu dapper
[06:16] <slavik> blazemonger: welcome to the light side :D
[06:16] <VR_> breezy rules, c'mon
[06:16] <eod_punk> I did as well blazemonger
[06:16] <blazemonger> slavik:the only thing that's crased on me so far is prboom hehhe
[06:16] <blazemonger> it also fixed a bug where my mouse cursor used to turn all black
[06:17] <slavik> prboom?
[06:17] <_jason> eod_punk: the link nalioth gave you is not needed on dapper
[06:17] <slavik> blazemonger: th cursor thing might've been app specific ...
[06:17] <slavik> default SDL cursor is all black I think
[06:17] <blazemonger> it wasnt app specific
[06:17] <blazemonger> it was in ubuntu itself no other distro did that to me
[06:17] <Nurie> hi
[06:17] <slavik> oh, ok
[06:17] <eod_punk> _jason: ok?
[06:17] <blazemonger> slavik:dapper seems pretty stable for being a beta
[06:18] <basura> you know if ubuntu have a distro to medical care?
[06:18] <_jason> eod_punk: dapper uses firefox1.5 is what I am trying to say
[06:18] <penusomatic> hi every one im Linus Torvalds and my penus is standing tall ageinst microsoft and my passionate slave bill gates
[06:18] <zyth> I expect Linux can spell 'penis' ;)
[06:19] <basura> penusomatic is a stupid
[06:19] <Sear> www.nextpicturez.com
[06:19] <_jason> !ops
[06:19] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[06:19] <blazemonger> how long have you beeen using dapper?
[06:19] <nalioth> !dapper
[06:19] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[06:20] <slavik> me?
[06:20] <Madpilot> penusomatic, change the nick to something more pleasant, please
[06:20] <slavik> for a few days now
[06:20] <penusomatic> penus penus penus penus penus
[06:20] <eod_punk> so basical the next version of ubuntu will not need to be updated for firefox?
[06:21] <_jason> eod_punk: ubuntu makes a stable release every 6 months and then provides security updates only.  There is also a backports project, but not every package can be safely backported from the development version.
[06:21] <slavik> _jason: there should be an anjuta 2.0.1 backport :P
[06:22] <_jason> eod_punk: that is why, in breezy, firefox1.5 is not in the repositories
[06:22] <eod_punk> I am correct in thinking it still needs updated to 1.5 right?
[06:22] <_jason> eod_punk: are you using breezy or dapper?
[06:22] <Madpilot> eod_punk, Dapper will have 1.5.x by default
[06:23] <eod_punk> breezy
[06:23] <rukuartic> I'm out for tonight
[06:23] <rukuartic> later guys!
[06:23] <nalioth> eod_punk: if you use ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake, you do not need to update firefox
[06:23] <_jason> eod_punk: ok, sorry then.  I thought you told blazemonger you were also using dapper.  But if you are using breezy, then if you want 1.5 you do have to follow the wiki isntructions
[06:24] <steizi> anyone know much about writing to NTFS drive?
[06:24] <GTroy> eod_punk: it's easy, just drag and drop the boxed text to terminal
[06:24] <slavik> steizi: it is unsafe and is not encouraged
[06:24] <GTroy> (in order)
[06:25] <steizi> i got a NTFS drive that windows can't read but linux can
[06:25] <eod_punk> thanks everyone I'm reading the wiki now on the update
[06:25] <nalioth> steizi: sounds like you've got trouble
[06:25] <steizi> hahah well ftp to my XBOX and back seems to be my only option..
[06:25] <TokenBad> well for those that tried to help me get to transfer files between windows and ubuntu...over a network...I found it easier to set up a ftp on each machine and ftp in to get the files...using the internal ips...speed is fast...and no hastle of setting up samba and webmin or anything
[06:26] <steizi> i am new to ubuntu any hints ?
[06:26] <Trisophile> Yooooo
[06:26] <benplaut> !tell steizi about wiki
[06:26] <jerware> can ip tables get the job done as any firewall appliance?  such as a cisco pix
[06:27] <steizi> very new.. hehehe
[06:27] <jerware> i mean can ip tables provide as much security than a cisco pix firewall?
[06:27] <jerware> not in the context of processing power.
[06:27] <scotiab> Is there a utility installed by default on ubuntu that will let me burn files to dvds?
[06:27] <nalioth> jerware: yes iptables is a "firewall"
[06:27] <paloyme> how do i update my linux kernel
[06:27] <paloyme> ?
[06:27] <nalioth> jerware: iptables is as good as the ruleset you put into it
[06:28] <jerware> ok i guess i dont need to purchase one of those expensive cisco ones.
[06:28] <basura> some boddy know what notebook should i purchased?
[06:28] <basura> some boddy know what notebook should i purchase?
[06:28] <jerware> get an IBM
[06:29] <jerware> a linux certified notebook
[06:29] <basura> ibm?
[06:29] <jerware> hold up
[06:29] <jerware> i have some links for good note books
[06:29] <basura> good
[06:29] <basura> thats what i asked
[06:29] <basura> xD
[06:29] <slavik> hmm
[06:30] <jerware> aww the web server is down
[06:30] <basura> shit
[06:30] <nalioth> basura: please watch your language in here  :)
[06:30] <jerware> google for linux certified IBM's i  have seen em and they're nice
[06:30] <jmg> anyone know how i could uninstall the dependencies of kubuntu-desktop? i did apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop, but some of those are required by ubuntu as well
[06:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell basura about laptop
[06:30] <basura> nalioth why?
[06:30] <jadaz87> !tell basura about conduct
[06:30] <basura> i dont see something worne
[06:31] <jadaz87> !tell basura about language
[06:31] <nalioth> basura: because this is not a barnyard or brothel, and we try to maintain civility for all here
[06:31] <donpachi> basura means trash in spanish
[06:31] <jmg> cool
[06:31] <basura> shit
[06:31] <basura> my english is really bad?
[06:31] <jmg> basura: your english is fine they are objecting to the use of "shit"
[06:32] <nalioth> jmg: there is no need for that
[06:32] <basura> ?
[06:32] <nalioth> basura: please be civil with your language here
[06:32] <paloyme> !make
[06:32] <ubotu> paloyme: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:32] <basura> nalioth i dont know why
[06:32] <jmg> basura: your english is fine they are objecting to the use of "shit". it is a blacklisted word
[06:32] <basura> uhhhm
[06:32] <basura> oooohh
[06:32] <basura> demd
[06:32] <basura> ok xD
[06:33] <basura> sorry
[06:33] <jmg> :)
[06:33] <jadaz87> !tell paloyme about compile
[06:33] <jmg> np
[06:33] <Madpilot> !enter
[06:33] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:33] <jmg> !tell basura about language
[06:33] <basura> uhm
[06:33] <basura> leave alone
[06:33] <jmg> ok :)
[06:34] <paloyme> the sudo command is only unique only to ubuntu?
[06:34] <basura> well the question is, what kind of proccesor shoudl i purchase
[06:34] <nalioth> paloyme: it works on any unix
[06:34] <jmg> paloyme: on debian you may apt-get install sudo
[06:34] <OrTigaS> magandang hapon
[06:34] <Cloud_tm> HELLO EVERYONE, QUESTION: Whenever I try to install with codeweavers crossover, it get a message saying I need to "update the installer wrapper" or something along those lines with me having to update an installer When i click ok, it quickly says could not connect to server. How do I download them?
[06:35] <jmg> basura: any pentium or athlon will run ubuntu really well
[06:35] <paloyme> install sudo? its installable?
[06:35] <Madpilot> basura, AMD or Intel, doesn't seem to matter
[06:35] <paloyme> sori for such a noobie comment
[06:35] <OrTigaS> how to install my printer HP Deskjet 640c
[06:35] <paloyme> this is my 2nd week of linux
[06:35] <jmg> Cloud_tm: have you checked the Ubuntu forums regarding Codeweavers?
[06:35] <jmg> heh
[06:35] <nalioth> paloyme: sudo will work on ANY unix
[06:35] <paloyme> does ubuntu disable the root as default
[06:36] <_jason> OrTigaS: have you tried system > administration > printing ?
[06:36] <brownie17> what command can i use to find out info about a file, like filesize and type and things?
[06:36] <jmg> paloyme: not disable just doesnt set password by default.
[06:36] <Aqutavia> asuming i cant see the screen. would some one walk me though the
[06:36] <nalioth> paloyme: security
[06:36] <_jason> brownie17: ls -l, stat, file
[06:36] <Aqutavia> keybard process of changing my resolution?
[06:36] <OrTigaS> _jason,  yes
[06:36] <UncleD> Anyone know the syntax to grep a specific line from a file?
[06:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell OrTigaS about printing
[06:36] <UncleD> like "grep line12553 file.txt"
[06:36] <OrTigaS> but just only opening but didn't open the window
[06:36] <_jason> UncleD: sed -n '12553p' file, should work
[06:37] <UncleD> _jason: thanks
[06:37] <davecb> howdy hooo
[06:37] <paloyme> nalioth, wat do you mean when you said security? ubuntu disabled it by default for security purposes?
[06:37] <davecb> (im drunk but lucid)
[06:37] <Aqutavia> heh.
[06:37] <paloyme> jmg, you know how to set root's password?
[06:37] <davecb> how do i install kde desktop manager
[06:37] <nalioth> paloyme: yes, if you'll join #ubuntu-offtopic we can discuss it in depth
[06:37] <davecb> on ubuntu?
[06:37] <jmg> paloyme: sudo passwd
[06:37] <nalioth> paloyme: there is no need for that
[06:37] <nalioth> jmg: please don't do that
[06:37] <_jason> davecb: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell paloyme about root
[06:37] <jmg> nalioth: dont answer questions?
[06:38] <davecb> _jason,  thanks...the same with xubuntu-desktop?
[06:38] <nalioth> jmg: ubuntu was designed without an active root account, enabling one can break things
[06:38] <_jason> davecb: yep
[06:38] <doms> i get rid installing my Apache , Mysql , PHP
[06:38] <jmg> nalioth: not really. 99.9% of packages are built with nil ubuntu changes and are otherwise synced directly from debian, which does not use sudo.
[06:38] <_jason> doms: what are you trying to do?
[06:39] <Parkotron> Would someone mind taking a look at this: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/688161 ? Obviously it's someone trying to get into my system through ssh, but is it worth worrying about?
[06:39] <doms> jason
[06:39] <Madpilot> Parkotron, do you have the SSH server installed?
[06:39] <OrTigaS> i didn't see HP 640C there
[06:39] <doms> i'am screwed
[06:39] <eduardo_> Parkotron: relax man.
[06:39] <basura> what branch of notebook shoul i buy it?
[06:39] <basura> hp toshiba?
[06:39] <basura> sony?
[06:39] <basura> dell?
[06:39] <OrTigaS> kahit ano
[06:39] <eduardo_> toshiba
[06:40] <Madpilot> !tell basura about enter
[06:40] <basura> eduardo_ whit intel?
[06:40] <Wolvenhaven> ive tried installing ubuntu several times from an iso i downloaded, and everytime i get into a commandline which i cannot input into, on which there is alot of information about ramchecking or something, and one of the errors is this console cant load, then it just sits there doing nothing, and it wont let me input to it, and it apears to not be functioning, do i need a new iso? or reburn the one i have?
[06:41] <_jason> Wolvenhaven: so it doesn't even install then?
[06:41] <doms> i'am try an sample programm <?php echo("Hellow World"); ?> in  my text editor and save as test.php when i open-up it in my firefox broswer then i click the test.php file then it say "save to disk" why is it i cant see a "Hellow World" in the page
[06:41] <Wolvenhaven> doms
[06:41] <Wolvenhaven> do you have an apache server running?
[06:41] <doms> yup
[06:41] <Parkotron> Madpilot: Yes, I have SSH installed and I use it a lot. eduardo_, I'm not overly concerned, I've just never come across anything like that before.
[06:41] <doms> yes i install apache2,mysql, php5
[06:41] <jmg> Parkotron: as long as they arent getting the right user you havent got much to worry about...
[06:41] <_jason> doms: did you follow the wiki for LAMP?
[06:42] <Parkotron> I also just noticed this: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/688170
[06:42] <doms> yup
[06:42] <doms> in ubuntu
[06:42] <doms> wiki
[06:42] <_jason> doms: did you try the things mentioned about troubleshooting php?
[06:42] <imbrandon> doms php needs to be served by apache WITH php enabled
[06:42] <doms> i dont know whats going on
[06:42] <Wolvenhaven> jason: it boots up into asking me what type of install i want, when i hit enter for regular install, it starts this laundry list of stuff, then stops when it cant load that console thing, all the command lines are predated by [#######] 
[06:42] <doms> where troubleshooting php
[06:42] <_jason> Wolvenhaven: did you burn the iso at a high speed (>4) ?
[06:42] <doms> how to enabled php
[06:43] <Wolvenhaven> i think it was at 3200
[06:43] <davecb> can drunk guys talk in this room?
[06:43] <davecb> =P
[06:43] <Aqutavia> is there a way to change the desktop resolution? if so. what is the process of doing so if i cant use the mouse. or see the screen(out of sync)?
[06:43] <imbrandon> doms did you apt-get install apache2? if so did you also apt-get install php ?
[06:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell doms about lamp
[06:43] <jerware> is there a key stroke to start GNOME Terminal ?
[06:43] <jmg> Parkotron: you are being scanned probably by some bots
[06:43] <jmg> Parkotron: they will be hitting your entire netblock
[06:43] <_jason> kethinov: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[06:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Aqutavia about fixres
[06:43] <minerale> does grub support xfs?
[06:43] <_jason> ugh time to sleep
[06:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Aqutavia about xcfg
[06:43] <jmg> Parkotron: looking for vulnerable systems
[06:43] <_jason> jerware: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[06:43] <imbrandon> ubotu tell Aqutavia about resolution
[06:43] <nalioth> Aqutavia: check your private messages
[06:44] <paloyme> anybody here knows where to get the flash plugin for firefox? i cant access macromedia's ftp site
[06:44] <imbrandon> !flash
[06:44] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:44] <doms> yes i correctly installed the apache2, mysql, php5 in my synaptic packageer
[06:44] <jerware> i have GNOME Terminal in my bottom bar, but i hate moving my hand off the key board to start it.  when i have to load with multiple files per terminal
[06:44] <_jason> doms: right under ``Install php4'' there is ``troubleshooting''.  Try those suggestions on the wiki please
[06:44] <bosco> paloyme, there should be a flash plugin in synaptic
[06:44] <Wolvenhaven> doms: is the file in your www folder?
[06:44] <Parkotron> jmg: After so many failed login attempts, shouldn't my computer ignore that IP? Is there a way to set something like that up?
[06:44] <doms> yes i hav var/www
[06:45] <paloyme> bosco, under what category?
[06:45] <Wolvenhaven> i dont know then
[06:45] <Wolvenhaven> my php works fine locally
[06:45] <doms> apache2-default and php
[06:45] <paloyme> ooops, i gues i can use the search jejeje
[06:45] <Wolvenhaven> go into your apache setting file
[06:45] <Wolvenhaven> and look through to see if something is odd
[06:45] <doms> thats what i want local server
[06:45] <bosco> paloyme, just search for flash and it will come up but even though i have the plugin i still cant view flash sites maybe different for you
[06:45] <bosco> though
[06:45] <imbrandon> doms you are going to the file via http://localhost/hello.php and not using "file->open" correct
[06:46] <Wolvenhaven> doms: i use easy php, its an apache/mysql server which sets itself up for you
[06:46] <doms> yes i enter that in my address of firefox
[06:46] <jerware> i guess not.  im probobly confuse with shift ctrl n  but thats when gnome is already running,  then i'll still  have lift my hand off the key  board to move it to a new workspace
[06:46] <jerware> workspaces are great
[06:46] <Triskel> hey
[06:46] <_jason> doms: what does this say: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ | grep php
[06:46] <imbrandon> doms well then it seems that php is not setup correct in the http.conf file follow the wiki
[06:46] <Wolvenhaven> ok on my ubuntu question:i have to burn at above 4000rpm?
[06:46] <Triskel> somebody know the default pass for root, after installed ubuntu ?
[06:46] <doms> maybe thats the problem
[06:46] <davecb> i have one stupid question...
[06:47] <doms> the httpd.conf
[06:47] <davecb> why am i getting trobule
[06:47] <_jason> Wolvenhaven: no, burn at 4x or less
[06:47] <Wolvenhaven> doms: are you sure you saved it as .php and not .php.txt?
[06:47] <Wolvenhaven> i burned at 3200
[06:47] <davecb> with ubuntu's backdoors repositories
[06:47] <davecb> ?
[06:47] <doms> yes i'am sure test.php
[06:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell Wolvenhaven about verify
[06:48] <thoreauputic> !tell Triskel about root
[06:48] <Aqutavia> keep in mind nalioth and imbrandon.... im using live cd. this is a process i need to do with out perminatly editing or changeing files.
[06:48] <bosco> paloyme, did you find it
[06:48] <paloyme> yep, theres two here, flash nonfree, and the other one
[06:48] <doms> php5.conf
[06:48] <paloyme> i installed both
[06:48] <doms> php5.load
[06:49] <Wolvenhaven> heh, now if only i had the iso on this computer
[06:49] <doms> jason
[06:49] <doms> php5.conf php5.load
[06:49] <nalioth> Aqutavia: you can do the xcfg command from the liveCD
[06:49] <_jason> doms: have you tried restarting apache?
[06:49] <doms> yes
[06:49] <nalioth> Aqutavia: when you are done with the prompts, just hit "ctrl-alt-backspace" and it should log you back in with the new rez
[06:49] <doms> apachectl restart
[06:50] <imbrandon> Aqutavia, what nalioth said or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:50] <Wolvenhaven> doms: the apache server may be up, but your mySQL may be down or loaded incorrectly
[06:50] <nalioth> imbrandon: /msg ubotu xcfg
[06:50] <Parkotron> Has anybody here tried out InitNG? If so I'm wondering what kind of speed increases they saw.
[06:50] <doms> how to set-up correctly mysql
[06:50] <Aqutavia> imbrandon i have tryed that and no combination of settings seems to help.;(
[06:50] <_jason> doms: mysql is on the LAMP page too
[06:50] <doms> i installed mysql-myadmin and php-myadmin
[06:50] <imbrandon>  /msg ubotu xcfg
[06:51] <nalioth> imbrandon: no left spacing please :)
[06:51] <imbrandon> hehe
[06:51] <imbrandon> i got it, thanks
[06:51] <doms> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?highlight=%28php%29 i use that wiki correctly
[06:51] <Wolvenhaven> jason:thanks for the help, but i dont even understand how do to md5 checks
[06:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Wolvenhaven about verify
[06:52] <imbrandon> md5 command ?
[06:52] <harisund> People, have any of you any experience with email servers? My ISP blocks port 25, so I am assuming things wouldn't work. Can I still use postfix to send mails and not receive them?
[06:52] <_jason> Wolvenhaven: what operating system are you using now?
[06:52] <Wolvenhaven> bootleg xp
[06:52] <Aqutavia> i have been doing a cold boot. ha. ill try ctrl-alt-bksp
[06:52] <doms> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?highlight=%28php%29 i use that wiki correctly
[06:53] <thoreauputic> harisund: only if the ISP does not block 25 outgoing
[06:53] <nalioth> Wolvenhaven: http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[06:53] <dsj> Can I ask questions on graphics card support with ubuntu here?
[06:53] <harisund> thoreauputic: Oh ISP's can do that too? How do I verify that?
[06:53] <imbrandon> dsj, sure
[06:53] <crunchyfish> i've downloaded both the 32 and 64 bit isos of ubuntu and burned each twice, and tried using each burnt disc 3-4 times each and every time i try to install it'll go through the process of copying the files, restarting, and then it will freeze at about 70-80%
[06:53] <crunchyfish> is this common?
[06:53] <_jason> doms: yeah
[06:54] <thoreauputic> harisund: ask the ISP I guess :)
[06:54] <nalioth> crunchyfish: did you burn them as slowly as possible?
[06:54] <scotiab> Is there a utility installed by default on ubuntu that will let me burn files to dvds?
[06:54] <harisund> thoreauputic: Good idea :) Wonder why I din't think of that before.
[06:54] <crunchyfish> i didn't, nalioth. do you think that could be an issue?
[06:54] <imbrandon> crunchyfish, no its not common, did you try debug setting like turing off acpi at boot ?
[06:54] <thoreauputic> harisund: mine blocks 25 outgoing but allows you to opt out if you wabt
[06:54] <harisund> thoreauputic: oh ok. Thanks ...
[06:54] <thoreauputic> s/wabt/want
[06:54] <nalioth> crunchyfish: yes, high speed burning is an issue.  we recommend 4x or slower
[06:54] <imbrandon> yes burn them slow
[06:54] <crunchyfish> excellent, i hope that takes care of it
[06:54] <crunchyfish> thanks very much
[06:55] <crunchyfish> heck, i'll burn it at 1x
[06:55] <dsj> Anybody with intel gm 945 graphics card able to get more  than around 12 MB Video Ram here with ubuntu dapper drake?
[06:55] <thoreauputic> harisund: mind you , there isn't much point for most people
[06:55] <Aqutavia> when all else fails.. lower speed... and speed again.
[06:56] <crunchyfish> i have a 64 bit processor. should i use that version or play it safe and go with 32 bit?
[06:56] <imbrandon> 64 bit is nice but its personal prefrence
[06:56] <harisund> thoreauputic: oh ok. I was just curious. I have a webserver, SSH server, FTP server, and all that .. but not the email one and wanted to have one of those too :)
[06:56] <crunchyfish> what are the advantages? i'm completely new to linux
[06:56] <doms> ok i will remove all my Apache Mysql and Php5 installed in ubuntu box <mark to  "complete remove"> then i redownload it again and faloow the step of LAMP
[06:56] <nalioth> crunchyfish: the i386 version offers more entertainment value (flash, audio/video codecs and such) not a lot of those things are available for the amd64 arch
[06:56] <doms> i'am get rid
[06:56] <doms> ok i will remove all my Apache Mysql and Php5 installed in ubuntu box <mark to  "complete remove"> then i redownload it again and faloow the step of LAMP
[06:57] <crunchyfish> oh, i'll try 32 bit for now then since my use is pretty recreational
[06:57] <thoreauputic> harisund: well, if you run a mail server make sure you know what you are doing, or your ISP will be very upset with you ;)
[06:57] <harisund> thoreauputic: Really? Wow .. thanks for the warning :) Maybe I shouldn't be overambitious
[06:58] <nalioth> crunchyfish: you as a human will probably never tell the difference in the 32bits that are unused lol
[06:58] <crunchyfish> haha, ok
[06:58] <thoreauputic> harisund: I suggest you forget it unless you have a specific reason to do it, frnakly
[06:58] <imbrandon> not unless you do some development stuff
[06:58] <thoreauputic> *frankly
[06:58] <imbrandon> and even then its only marginal
[06:58] <harisund> thoreauputic: Well, I wanted an email server to be able to send out stuff, not receive any. But I think I will follow your advice.
[06:59] <nalioth> harisund: most email sent via your method are quickly killed as "spam"
[06:59] <imbrandon> harisund, but isp's tend to frown on open relays ;)
[06:59] <crunchyfish> also, should i set up the partitions before i start the discs or is it ok to just leave some free unpartitioned space and let the installer handle it?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> harisund: you can send whatevr you like through the ISP mail server - so why bother ?
[06:59] <nalioth> crunchyfish: free space is golden
[06:59] <harisund> quickly kill as "spam" by whom imbrandon? The ISP/
[07:00] <imbrandon> the reciever
[07:00] <nalioth> harisund: join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:00] <crunchyfish> one last question, should i reset my MBR before i try installing it again? grub is still in there from the last botched install, or will it safely overwrite itself?
[07:00] <nalioth> crunchyfish: it should overwrite itself
[07:00] <thoreauputic> harisund: there are whole IP blocks blacklisted as "residential" or "dynamic" etc
[07:00] <crunchyfish> thanks for all your help
[07:04] <_6ix_> I installed the rar package, but my archive program cant open rar files.  Why might that be?
[07:05] <mavric2001> dapper is getting a lot of updates lately, is that usual? or are they about to realease of final version?
[07:05] <noiesmo> mavric2001, release due 1st june
[07:06] <mavric2001> so a lot of updates on the beta is normal then
[07:06] <Selophane> rob, u around?
[07:06] <rob> Selophane, yes
[07:06] <Selophane> i was reading the wiki and found you are running Ubuntu on Presario M2000 Laptop?
[07:06] <mavric2001> I really cant find anything wrong with dapper
[07:07] <nalioth> _6ix_: did you install unrar-nonfree?
[07:07] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[07:07] <shadeofgrey> i have a question
[07:07] <mavric2001> easyubuntu doesnt work to great on dapper
[07:08] <_6ix_> nalioth, pretty sure, checking...
[07:08] <Selophane> i have an M2000 and have tried Breezy 5.10 Ubuntu and Kubuntu, neither seem to want to work for me.. freezes upon loading x/KDE
[07:08] <shadeofgrey> if im running dapper and i just dist-upgraded today...  if i still see the nvidia logo at bootup does that mean i have to reinstall nvidia-glx?
[07:08] <eod_punk> does ubunto come with wine on it?
[07:08] <Selophane> must hard shutdown
[07:08] <shadeofgrey> furthermore, how does one fiddle with the refresh rate
[07:08] <nalioth> eod_punk: it does not, but it is easy to add
[07:08] <lutra> eod_punk: not by default
[07:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell eod_punk about wine
[07:08] <mavric2001> shadeofgrey:  it shouldnt have to be reinstalled
[07:08] <Selophane> rob, noticed u said your M2000 was working fine? wondering if there was any extra options or procedures u went through to get it working?
[07:09] <mavric2001> nvidia logo means glx is installed
[07:09] <shadeofgrey> okay
[07:09] <noiesmo> mavric2001, its a good sign yeh
[07:09] <shadeofgrey> i just tried to install nvidia-settings because its not present and it warned me at the commandline that it was about to remove nvidia-glx
[07:10] <_jason> shadeofgrey: are you using dapper?
[07:10] <_6ix_> nalioth, I only had the free version.  Installing nonfree now.  Thanks
[07:10] <shadeofgrey> yes jason
[07:10] <Selophane> rob, sorry, do you need more info?
[07:10] <rob> Selophane, I'm having issues with Dapper on it atm with wireless
[07:10] <_jason> shadeofgrey: nvidia-settings isn't needed in dapper, it's part of nvidia-glx iirc and please aske dapper questions in #ubuntu+1 in the future thanks
[07:10] <Selophane> i c, well i only have Breezy atm
[07:10] <rob> Selophane, it just works pretty much
[07:10] <Selophane> did u do expert mode install?
[07:11] <Selophane> cuz i read on forums i'm not only one with problems getting this model laptop running (K)Ubuntu
[07:11] <luisito> hello
[07:12] <luisito> can I have a dual boot in a mac ibook?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> luisito: yes
[07:12] <nalioth> luisito: of course you can
[07:12] <Selophane> tried installing a "newer" i810 driver, and still no go
[07:13] <thoreauputic> luisito: you just need the space for Ubuntu ( dedicated partition)
[07:13] <thoreauputic> luisito: ie free space
[07:13] <Selophane> also tried doing a NoAccel in xorg config... now x won't even start
[07:13] <luisito> I'm just thinking to switch to macs. It is a good idea? does linux work fine on macs?
[07:14] <imbrandon> yup
[07:14] <mavric2001> mac sucks
[07:14] <thoreauputic> nalioth: apparently "parted" can now resize hfs+ - does the new installer do that on macs?
[07:14] <nalioth> thoreauputic: i've been resizing hfs+ since hoary
[07:14] <mavric2001> why would you spend 2500 on a mac to run linux on
[07:14] <thoreauputic> mavric2001: and you base this on what?
[07:14] <thoreauputic> nalioth: cool :)
[07:14] <nalioth> mavric2001: because the hardware is excellent
[07:14] <mavric2001> bs
[07:14] <vinboy> hi
[07:14] <thoreauputic> nalioth: so the installer includes that step?
[07:14] <vinboy> how do I set firefox as my default browser?
[07:14] <mavric2001> it isnt any better than pc hardware, specially if you build your own
[07:15] <shadeofgrey> okay jason...  i asked in ubuntu+1 prior to asking here...  waited patiently and got no response..  surely changing my refresh rate shouldnt be difficult?
[07:15] <vinboy> instead of konqueror
[07:15] <crunchyfish> nero and alcohol only let me choose 8x as the lowest burn speed. anyone know of a windows iso burner that will let me go lower?
[07:15] <nalioth> thoreauputic: i've not used the installer on a virgin mac
[07:15] <Selophane> rob, any suggestions on what i could try?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> nalioth: OK
[07:15] <nalioth> vinboy: system > prefs > preferred apps
[07:15] <Selophane> did u disable acpi?
[07:15] <luisito> mavric2001, I want to say good bye forever to windows but I need the design software I can't have in linux (yet). so I need a mac.
[07:15] <shadeofgrey> theres no way macs are ever virgins...  they're so sleek and sexy i wouldnt be suprised if they get more digital ass than lara croft
[07:15] <vinboy> thx nalioth
[07:16] <mavric2001> hell mac is intel now, lol, I repeat your purchasing over priced hardware
[07:16] <htinn> heh
[07:16] <rob> Selophane, maybe this one (haven't tried it myself yet) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Device/AirportExtreme
[07:16] <scotiab1> why mus tlinux make everything be so difficult?
[07:16] <rob> dont even know if thats the right one atm
[07:16] <_6ix_> Anyone else have trouble getting java applets to work in mozilla?
[07:16] <Rhisc> hi
[07:16] <thoreauputic> mavric2001: whatever. Use what you prefer, but don't trash hardware that many people like
[07:17] <rob> hmm that won't work actually, its for the apple airport ex
[07:17] <mavric2001> jobs stole from BSD
[07:17] <_jason> _6ix_: are you having difficulties?
[07:17] <luisito> mavric2001, yep!, I know it's an overpriced hardware but the system worth the money.
[07:17] <Rhisc> I need some help
[07:17] <nalioth> !offtopic
[07:17] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:17] <mavric2001> im not trashing hardware, the hardware is cheaper on the pc platform for the same stuff
[07:17] <specialbuddy> thats the truth
[07:17] <Selophane> rob, yea
[07:17] <thoreauputic> mavric2001:  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:18] <rob> or even #off-topic :)
[07:18] <mavric2001> so are you
[07:18] <Rhisc> does anyone here know anything about ndiswrapper?
[07:18] <Rhisc> I keep getting an invalid driver error
[07:19] <Rhisc> and I dont know how to fix it
[07:19] <mavric2001> its a free country and i will state my opinions wherever and however i choose
[07:19] <_jason> what country is that?
[07:20] <Installer36> Arizona?
[07:21] <mavric2001> thoreauputic:   /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <foureight84> hey all
[07:21] <Rhisc> mavric2001,  just because you are in a free country dosent mean that The admins cant hold the right to move you to another channel to talk about offtopic related subjects
[07:21] <thoreauputic> mavric2001: I'm already there :)
[07:21] <luisito> question: does a pc with a better hardware configuration work faster than a mac with its low cost configuration?
[07:21] <htinn> could someone please explain to me why i'm perm-banned from #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <foureight84> is there an individual serial number on a pentium 4?
[07:21] <mavric2001> just because you have a god complex doesnt make you less gay
[07:21] <rob> Selophane, if you find a solution, please let me know :)
[07:21] <foureight84> i remember that they used to have serial numbers on pentium III
[07:22] <thoreauputic> !gay
[07:22] <Selophane> rob lol, i have no idea what to try
[07:22] <Selophane> so many others report the same
[07:22] <luisito> mavric2001, question: does a pc with a better hardware configuration work faster than a mac with its low cost configuration?
[07:22] <thoreauputic> !tell mavric2001 about gay
[07:22] <Selophane> and even the semi-solutions posted there aren't working for me
[07:22] <rersi> _jason
[07:22] <intelikey> !coc
[07:22] <ubotu> [coc]  the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:22] <_jason> rersi: ?
[07:22] <rersi> :)
[07:22] <MrPockets> hows one check the HDD space left?
[07:23] <Rhisc> how do I compile ndiswrapper?
[07:23] <mavric2001> people who think macs are faster than x86 platforms in any configuration are funny
[07:23] <intelikey> MrPockets df -h
[07:23] <htinn> hello?
[07:23] <_jason> !ndiswrapper
[07:23] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:23] <drumline_> friggin old disks...   floppies are evil.
[07:23] <Madpilot> htinn, try -offtopic again
[07:23] <nalioth> mavric2001: #ubuntu-offtopic awaits
[07:23] <thoreauputic> mavric2001: feel free to exprees your opinions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:23] <mavric2001> now that they are intel, maybe close to the fastest x86s but not really faster
[07:24] <thoreauputic> rob: heh - that's one way to do it I guess :)
[07:24] <rob> thoreauputic, yup :)
[07:25] <rersi> .                ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
[07:25] <rersi> .            ,`(_)`,
[07:25] <rersi> .___________/       \
[07:25] <rersi> .___________         |
[07:25] <rersi> .           \  ...  /
[07:25] <luisito> mavric2001, lets go to offtopic channel
[07:25] <rersi> .            `-___.`
[07:25] <luisito> oops! too late
[07:25] <vinboy> wat is the difference between installing from install cd & from live cd?
[07:25] <mavric2001> yawns ooops off topic
[07:26] <drumline_> vinboy: live cd doesn't install.
[07:26] <rob> probably should do that :)
[07:26] <d3wd> I can't get either cd to do its thing
[07:27] <minerale> How do I install grub manually? the installer said something about architecture and did not install it
[07:27] <intelikey> na it looks more cool to k/b when not chan op   rob
[07:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell minerale about grub
[07:27] <vinboy> drumline_: oh ic... i tot I can install from a live cd :D
[07:27] <d3wd> it goes to dr-dos and that's all
[07:27] <rob> intelikey, sneaky :)
[07:27] <drumline_> vinboy: live cd is for testing and other non-install purposes...   great for folks who want to try linux without the commitment.  :)
[07:28] <Madpilot> vinboy, not from 4.10 LiveCDs - the new version will have the install from LiveCD stuff
[07:28] <intelikey> 5.10 ?
[07:28] <Madpilot> gah, yes - 5.10, not 4... :P
[07:28] <vinboy> Madpilot: how about 5.10?
[07:29] <jmg> hmm
[07:29] <mavric2001> then again intel doesnt begin to compare to the latest athlon processors, so mac switching to intel shows how lame they are as manufacturers, the only thing apple seems to be good at is stealing BSD's work
[07:30] <Madpilot> bye
[07:30] <narg> intel's new chip is rather nice. And they didn't steal it, they used it like any can use it -- that's the point of open source.
[07:30] <drumline_> mavric: it's hardly stealing when BSD gives the code away under the BSD license and Apple openly admits it.
[07:31] <zyth> you can't steal BSD code.
[07:31] <zyth> that's silly.
[07:32] <drumline_> totally..  just a l33t0 junky, that boy.  He'll grow out of it.  :)
[07:32] <JonathanKent> !repositories
[07:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:32] <intelikey> ignorance is always 'silly'
[07:32] <scotiab1> !coc
[07:32] <ubotu> [coc]  the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:33] <blind> lol. everytime i see coc.. i think something else. heh
[07:33] <JonathanKent> !restricted
[07:33] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:33] <nalioth> !offtopic
[07:33] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:33] <scotiab1> !caps
[07:33] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[07:33] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[07:33] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:36] <drumline_> d/window new double on hide
[07:41] <Double_D> does anyone know where i can download the subfont.ttf file for mplayer?
[07:41] <_jason> Double_D: install mplayer-fonts
[07:41] <crunchyfish> i don't have any cd-r media that supports 1x burning. will burning ubuntu to a dvd work?
[07:41] <Double_D> i did.
[07:41] <Double_D> still can't locate the file.
[07:41] <jmg> crunchyfish: it should do
[07:42] <_jason> Double_D: did you install from the repositories?
[07:42] <nalioth> Double_D: the pkg called mplayer-fonts, iirc
[07:42] <Double_D> _jason yes.
[07:42] <jmg> crunchyfish: whats the reason for 1x burning though?
[07:42] <pauldaoust> hey, folks. Is anyone aware of how to get Nautilus' bookmarks back to the old-fashioned, tag-based, non-hierarchical bookmarks of yesteryear? (and yes, I'm aware they're still tag-based, but once upon a time they *felt* tag-based.)
[07:42] <nalioth> jmg: it has been a known issue that iso images of ubunt that are burned at too high a speed, turn into partial coasters
[07:43] <Double_D> _jason, nalioth: ahh, i got it.  my bad, thanks.
[07:43] <crunchyfish> someone said my ubunstu installs were botching because i burned the disc at too high a speec
[07:43] <crunchyfish> speed
[07:43] <crunchyfish> the lowest i can get is 8x, even with updated burner firmware
[07:43] <jmg> nalioth: really?
[07:43] <Double_D> _jason, nalioth: was just trying to locate the file, didn't try to restart mplayer (duh).
[07:43] <AnndyOn> gday mate
[07:43] <nalioth> jmg: yes, really
[07:43] <jmg> nalioth: can i read about this?
[07:43] <jmg> !coasters
[07:43] <ubotu> jmg: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:43] <nalioth> jmg: ask anyone in here that has helped for a while, we've all seen it
[07:44] <crunchyfish> nalioth do you think 8x would work or is that still too high?
[07:44] <nalioth> crunchyfish: we recommend 4x or less
[07:45] <AnndyOn> wat u guys talking about?
[07:45] <crunchyfish> is the burn speed at all based on the media?
[07:45] <nalioth> crunchyfish: it's your cd-r and your time
[07:45] <crunchyfish> i have the iso loaded in my burner software (i just updated my burner firmware also) and when there's no disc in the drive i can select 1x, but as soon as i put in a disc the minimum is 8x
[07:46] <nalioth> crunchyfish: don't you love windows telling you what to do? do you have 2 optical drives?
[07:46] <intelikey> max burn speed is media limited but min-burn speed ?
[07:46] <crunchyfish> oh actually i can try the burner on this other pc i guess
[07:46] <AnndyOn> is depand on the cd media
[07:47] <crunchyfish> i just put in a disc that must be 5 years old and i still can't go below 8x :(
[07:47] <AnndyOn> clear
[07:48] <crunchyfish> maybe i need a different program. any good windows recommendations for low speed burning software?
[07:48] <zyth> crunchyfish, nero.
[07:48] <AnndyOn> try ahead nero they good.
[07:48] <zyth> nero is the only burning software worth using on windows.
[07:48] <crunchyfish> yeah, nero's the one that's telling me i can only do 8x
[07:48] <intelikey> yeah it's not the media setting the minimum speed...
[07:48] <dumbbeatnix> DeepBurner
[07:49] <AnndyOn> alchocol 120% also good
[07:49] <dumbbeatnix> DeepBurner free use google
[07:49] <AnndyOn> u can try windows build in cd burner
[07:49] <lorth> CDBurner XP Pro3 is nice freeware
[07:49] <nalioth> crunchyfish: may i point you toward ##windows for your question?
[07:49] <crunchyfish> sorry about that
[07:50] <dumbbeatnix> has anyone setup pl2303 using linux
[07:50] <intelikey> i don't understand a word of that.... it's all windows to me.....
[07:50] <crunchyfish> this computer is going to let me burn at 1x :)
[07:50] <dumbbeatnix> it registers in the dmesg but I am unable to connect to the phone?
[07:51] <zyth> crunchyfish, I used to have a 2x DVD burner
[07:51] <zyth> 45 mins for a disc, whee
[07:51] <dumbbeatnix> mobile phone that is
[07:51] <linux_galore> crunchyfish: get the knoppix/kubuntu live cd and use k3b to burn the cd's
[07:51] <crunchyfish> haha
[07:51] <francis> hi
[07:52] <dumbbeatnix> is this the linux section?
[07:52] <francis> Totem could not play 'fd://0'. anyone has ever seen this ? ive just installed every necessary codecs with easyubuntu and about:plugins in firefox looks nice but no movie is playable
[07:53] <intelikey> linux_galore hmmm did i miss something?   A can't burn a good copy.   B. get another iso and burn it to use to burn a good copy.  C. multiple coasters/frisbees  ?
[07:53] <linux_galore> francis: ?? movies in firefox or totem
[07:54] <idefix> why do I get this? mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[07:55] <linux_galore> intelikey: just saying if you can get or have a live CD thats KDE based you should have K3B. how you get the CD is up to you
[07:55] <dumbbeatnix> has anyone got a sagem my c4-2 mobile phone to work?
[07:55] <minerale> I was able to fix grub, now it loads (from a separate partition) what do I need to add to the menu.lst to boot ubuntu/drake/64? (the howto's don't mention)
[07:55] <francis> linux_galore: both
[07:55] <intelikey> idefix cause udev hasn't made the inode yet.  use the static device node in /dev/.static
[07:55] <sharpy> how do i install KDE?
[07:55] <francis> linux_galore: well, from firefox initially
[07:55] <linux_galore> francis: have you tried mplayer
[07:55] <Troy_McClure> sudo apt-get install kdm? something similiar to that
[07:55] <idefix> intelikey mount -t vfat /dev/.static /media/floppy ?
[07:55] <dumbbeatnix> KDE is installed from synaptic package manager, simply select the KDE desktop
[07:56] <Troy_McClure> that works too :P
[07:56] <linux_galore> francis: theres an extension for firefox to manager what program pays what media file type
[07:56] <linux_galore> manage*
[07:56] <idefix> intelikey mount: /dev/.static is not a block device
[07:56] <idefix> at least it's valid 
[07:56] <intelikey> idefix no  /dev/.static/dev/fd0    i think
[07:56] <linux_galore> francis: its called media player connectivity  it will alow you to try the different media players for set file types
[07:56] <whiter> [Aprivmsg #ubuntu :hello, i need help
[07:57] <idefix> mount: /dev/.static/dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[07:57] <idefix>  :(
[07:57] <roryy> /dev/.static is root-only readable on my system
[07:57] <roryy>  /dev/.static is root-only readable on my system
[07:57] <whiter> whats a good terminal irc client?
[07:57] <thoreauputic> irssi
[07:57] <whiter> okay, ill install that then ill be back
[07:58] <francis> linux_galore: hrm ill look it out
[07:58] <hyperstream> hmm ive just brought a new 320 giger wester digital HardDrive. how in Gnome can i set it up and partition it? or do i require to use something such as FDISK ?
[07:58] <intelikey> idefix i said i think.    use [tab]   to complete the string...
[07:58] <sharpy> dumbbeatnix, select KDE Desktop? it's not there.. whne i type kde in the search field?
[07:58] <linux_galore> francis: in firefox go Tools-> Extensions then click on "Find More Extensions" then on the mozilla site look for "Media Player Connectivity"
[07:58] <intelikey> roryy only root can mount anyway
[07:58] <whiter> ill just do the best i can in netcat
[07:58] <idefix> [tab]  doesn't work
[07:59] <roryy> you going to need 'sudo -i' if you want tab-completion
[07:59] <linux_galore> intelikey: unless the user is in the right group
[07:59] <whiter> i tried to install xubuntu-desktop the way it says in the tutorial but its telling me i need to insert the breezy badger disc into /cdrom/ and i have the cd in but when i press enterr it doesnt do anything
[07:59] <dumbbeatnix> try the repositories, you will have to make them universe.  Their is some help available in ubuntu forum on this topic.
[07:59] <thoreauputic> whiter: if you are using Ubuntu, irssi should be installed by default
[07:59] <sharpy> dumbbeatnix, make them universe?
[07:59] <whiter> netcat is doing just fine...
[07:59] <intelikey> idefix [tab]  works when the first leters are correct.
[08:00] <roryy> intelikey: otoh, if the system is correctly setup, anyone *should* be able to mount a floppy
[08:00] <whiter> just really wanna install xubuntu-desktop it just isnt letting me
[08:00] <roryy> intelikey: that directory is root-only readable; you can't tab-complete unless you are root
[08:00] <roryy> err
[08:00] <roryy> idefix, sorry
[08:00] <linux_galore> whiter: just install xfce
[08:00] <thoreauputic> whiter: try commentaing out the CD line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:00] <whiter> how?
[08:00] <linux_galore> whiter: apt-get install xfce
[08:00] <thoreauputic> whiter: erm - sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[08:01] <whiter> alright ill try those, gosh netcat sucks for ircing... and untu i tried that already
[08:01] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: not the same thing
[08:01] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: and anyway its xfce4
[08:01] <whiter> okay ill try commenting out the cd stuff brb
[08:01] <linux_galore> whiter: xubuntu is just Ubuntu base with xfce as the desktop
[08:01] <intelikey> roryy "correctly setup"   hehhe   yeah  like there is such a thing :)
[08:01] <thoreauputic> whiter: don't forget to update
[08:01] <dumbbeatnix> settings -> repositories -> add  then click on all of the check boxes
[08:01] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: xfce4 << diferent package
[08:02] <roryy> a guy who can irc using nc should be able to figure it out
[08:02] <linux_galore> thoreauputic: aaah why have the old version in there
[08:02] <alvaro> hi is there Flash 8.0 for Ubuntu ?
[08:02] <Madpilot> alvaro, no
[08:02] <idefix> roryy, I first tried copying some files, one seemed to work, then I copied the second and the first file's extension was changed then I restarted my PC and couldn't mount my floppy anymore
[08:02] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: no idea :)
[08:02] <linux_galore> alvaro: no
[08:02] <Mantice> A program say's it requires GTK 2.4 or later how can I install it ?
[08:02] <alvaro> What can i do , this one site requires 8.0..?
[08:02] <linux_galore> alvaro: install IE
[08:03] <idefix> roryy, I know it sound extremely weird, but that was the case
[08:03] <roryy> idefix: and if you put a different floppy in the drive?
[08:03] <linux_galore> alvaro: you can install IE in linux
[08:03] <HP_Administrator> Anyone know why I am getting kernel panic not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-block ??  I am trying to install over net with loadlin and I am putting root=/dev/rd/0 rw
[08:03] <alvaro> internet explorer on ubuntu?
[08:03] <alvaro> how?
[08:03] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: actually xfce doesn't exist as a package on breezy
[08:03] <idefix> shoot, when restarting I had to remove it :|
[08:03] <Madpilot> alvaro, thru wine
[08:03] <HP_Administrator> I have an old Dell latitude lt 200 mhz
[08:03] <linux_galore> thoreauputic: aah
[08:03] <linux_galore> alvaro: let me get the link
[08:03] <idefix> thx
[08:03] <linux_galore> alvaro: theres a script that installs it all for you
[08:03] <holycow> http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/linux-european-threat-to-our-computers.html  <-- heh
[08:04] <holycow> wow, check out that article
 internet explorer on ubuntu? <--- better still WHY ?
[08:05] <dumbbeatnix> for the kde question, you should now have KDE Desktop Environment, now its as simple as going to kde base in that tab
[08:05] <Mantice> How to I install GTK
[08:05] <damian_> When i enable the dma setting for say hdb (my hdd) do i also need to do it for my dvd and cd drives to get dvd's playing and cd's pping perfect speed?
[08:05] <roryy> Mantice: are you trying to compile a program ?
[08:05] <damian_> Mantice: synaptic
[08:05] <linux_galore> alvaro:  http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/
[08:05] <hyperstream> fdisk /dev/hdb Unable to open /dev/hdb -----> altho 'Disks Manager' says its there under /dev/hdb and under the partition tab i cant click create partition or anything
[08:05] <Mantice> No a program says that It needs it to run
[08:05] <Mantice> 2.4 + it says
[08:05] <hyperstream> a new harddrive ive just brought and put in. 320 gig.
[08:06] <roryy> Mantice: have you installed ubuntu or kubuntu ? and what program is it?
[08:06] <Mantice> I dont know what one to install under Synaptic
[08:06] <Mantice> Ubuntu
 linux_galore: actually xfce doesn't exist as a package on breezy  <---- it's xfce4
[08:06] <damian_> Mantice so search for gtk 2.4
[08:06] <thoreauputic> intelikey: right
[08:06] <Mantice> I have Ubuntu 64
[08:06] <damian_> um
[08:06] <roryy> Mantice: ubuntu comes with gtk 2.8.6
[08:06] <damian_> Mantice kubuntu?
[08:06] <damian_> ubuntu comes with gtk
[08:07] <Mantice> How come it cant run :(
[08:07] <roryy> Mantice: what software are you trying to run? perhaps it's in the ubuntu repositories
[08:07] <damian_> are you within gnome?
[08:07] <Mantice> Maybe its the program
[08:07] <damian_> are you within gnome?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> intelikey: xubuntu-desktop is a nicer way to do it IMO - you get rox and abiword and sylpheed etc
[08:07] <Mantice> .x11 is a program file right
[08:07] <Mantice> I should able to run it
[08:07] <damian_> .x11 is a config file???
[08:07] <linux_galore> thoreauputic: thinking of saying that but I wasnt sure xubuntu-desktop was in breezy
[08:08] <damian_> Mantice are you in gnome right now
[08:08] <dumbbeatnix> mantice: you may need to fix some dependencies with apt-get fix [program-name]  or something.
[08:08] <roryy> damian_: oddly enough, you don't need to be 'in gnome' to use a gtk program.
[08:08] <Mantice> Your right I have GTK its the program
[08:08] <thoreauputic> linux_galore: yes it is :)
[08:08] <Mantice> I get this
[08:08] <Mantice> error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:08] <thoreauputic> !info xubuntu-desktop
[08:08] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[08:08] <damian_> roryy odly enough I KNOW
[08:08] <francis> still the same error
[08:08] <francis> what is that fb:// anyway
[08:09] <sEbaKiLLeR> question fo all: python , perl , ruby , JAVA?
[08:09] <sharpy> what's the difference between universe, multiverse?
[08:09] <dumbbeatnix> quit
[08:09] <intelikey> thoreauputic yes, i wasn't really commenting on how to install xfce just that the package name is xfce4 in ubuntu hoary > ....
[08:09] <damian_> roryy SEE If he was within gnome that means gtk is installed meaning its the programs faul6t...end of question
[08:09] <thoreauputic> intelikey: ah OK - xfce4 in breezy too afaik
[08:09] <damian_> so dont be smart
[08:10] <Mantice> Any one here know how to use wolfmame its for linux but I cant get it to boot :(
[08:10] <muraii> intelikey: Have you used one of the *box WMs, e.g. Openbox?  Do you have any idea how xfce would compare?
[08:10] <intelikey> yes  > ...   or greater
[08:10] <steel> where do i report bugs in ubuntu
[08:10] <damian_> Mantice bug report?
[08:10] <steel> where's that
[08:10] <Mantice> error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:11] <steel> oh
[08:11] <steel> hah
[08:11] <damian_> sorry
[08:11] <damian_> system tools->bug report tool
[08:11] <roryy> !bug
[08:11] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:11] <thoreauputic> muraii: fluxbox, openbox and blackbox are marginally quicker than xfce4 - but xfce4 is quite quick too
[08:11] <damian_> steel:  system tools->bug report tool
[08:12] <Mantice> Any one here a mame freak ?
[08:12] <intelikey> muraii xfce4 has more features than blackbox or fluxbox. (both can be enhanced tho)   but also has a larger foot print.     speed is indistinguishable to me.
[08:12] <damian_> if you answer me i can help you mantice last try
[08:12] <steel> well, i just put my mouse over an audio file and it starts playing (i like that feature) and i delete the file... and now the song is playing infinitly... how do i make it shut up?
[08:12] <linux_galore> Mantice: sudo apt-get install expat
[08:13] <thoreauputic> steel: try pkill mpg123
[08:13] <muraii> Greater, in speed, standards compliance, or...?
[08:13] <linux_galore> Mantice: I play mame roms
[08:13] <Madpilot> steel, in a terminal, try "killall esd" then "esd" to stop and restart the sound server - that should work
[08:13] <bit_doidao> steel: strange!
[08:13] <_jason> steel: you should file a bug on that, don't know about making it shutup...
[08:13] <Mantice> Cool
[08:13] <Mantice> whats expat ?
[08:13] <intelikey> muraii you are talking to a minimalist here.   personally i like twm ok.    and blackbox is about as heavy as i care to get.
[08:13] <steel> thanks
[08:13] <thoreauputic> steel: odd that it continues playing when you've deleted it :)
[08:13] <sharpy> what's the difference between universe, multiverse?
[08:13] <linux_galore> Mantice: its a package that also contains libexpat
[08:13] <Mantice> Do you use command line mame ? do you have a front end ?
[08:13] <damian_> thoreauputic reiserfs
[08:13] <esac> i accidentally mislinked my /usr/bin/Xorg file .. can anybody point me where i can redownload that file (beta2) ?
[08:14] <_jason> steel: logging out and locgging in may do it, or maybe killall nautilus, or maybe kill esd and then start it again
[08:14] <roryy> sharpy: universe is `free', unsupported software; multiverse is `non-free', unsupported software
[08:14] <thoreauputic> damian_: ?
[08:14] <linux_galore> Mantice: basically your missing stuff
[08:14] <damian_> u can be playing a video and delete or rename it or whatever and it will...you wont be getting file in use errors
[08:14] <linux_galore> Mantice: and the program cant find it
[08:14] <sharpy> roryy, thanks ?:-)
[08:15] <[nige] > is there anyway to check my acpi settings
[08:15] <[nige] > I want to know if its enabled or not
[08:15] <muraii> I suppose I haven't dug far enough into even Metacity or Openbox to see what sorts of features I'd like.  Basically, the WM just needs to display crap and get outta my way.  Keybinding is, of course, essential.
[08:15] <steel> "pkill mpg123" worked
[08:15] <damian_> thoreauputic: unsure exactly how reiserfs works but u can move rename whatever a file even while its in use
[08:15] <intelikey> i wish the guy that i talked with last night about auto login ssh  would ask again.  i have an answer.   i worked it out with expect over ssh
[08:15] <esac> [nige]  /etc/default/acpid
[08:15] <thoreauputic> damian_: ah OK - I use plain vanilla ext3
[08:15] <damian_> :P
[08:16] <Mantice> That dident work :( The program still says the same thing, I tryed running the other file called "xwlfview32" and it came out with bunch of messages
[08:16] <slimz> can anyone help me out, im really new to linux, and im trying to copy a folder in terminal as root, so im doing "sudo cp "folder name" "where i want the folder" and i ckeep getting an error saying "cp: omitting directory `/home/slimz/main/'
[08:16] <damian_> just noticed that the other day ive always sued ext3 too but  reiserfs really is quite good how you can do that
[08:16] <sEbaKiLLeR> question fo all: python , perl , ruby , JAVA?
[08:16] <intelikey> holycow who did you stumble upon that artical ?
[08:16] <damian_> When i enable the dma setting for say hdb (my hdd) do i also need to do it for my dvd and cd drives to get dvd's playing and cd's pping perfect speed?
[08:17] <Madpilot> damian_, yes
[08:17] <damian_> thanks
[08:17] <roryy> sEbaKiLLeR: that question is better suited to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:17] <damian_> whats cdrom drive called?
[08:17] <damian_> /dev/cdrom?
[08:17] <intelikey> slimz  add  -R
[08:17] <Mantice> (xwlfview32:9673): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/libsmooth.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:17] <Luke> does the stock dapper kernel have fs loopback installed?
[08:17] <holycow> intelikey, hell if i know :)
[08:17] <holycow> heh
[08:18] <slimz> intelikey:  cp: accessing `-R': No such file or directory
[08:18] <damian_> mantice: thats an easy one
[08:18] <holycow> i think its a parody, if you go to the main page and go to the bottom ofr the main page
[08:18] <linux_galore> Mantice: sounds like you randomly grabbed a binary and installed it and didnt use the package manager so you didnt install any of the dependencies
[08:18] <holycow> it has a link to a 'i love gitmo' tshirt
[08:18] <hyphenated> Luke: #ubuntu+1 and it probably does
[08:18] <cipi604> damian_, /media/cdrom
[08:18] <intelikey> slimz  you really should read the links that !cli  outputs.
[08:18] <holycow> it must be a parod, albeit, that had me going for a wee bit
[08:18] <holycow> hehe
[08:18] <muraii> who
[08:18] <intelikey> !cli
[08:18] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:18] <damian_> cipi604 nah i need the block device not mount point
[08:18] <Madpilot> holycow, #ubuntu-offtopic - and post the URL ;)
[08:19] <slimz> intelikey:  whats !cli ?
[08:19] <holycow> k.
[08:19] <roryy> damian_: one way to check is to look in /etc/fstab (my cd device is listed there)
[08:19] <linux_galore> Mantice: Linux is very specific, if it cant find a file it doesnt exist, if the file not there you didnt install something
[08:19] <thoreauputic> !tell slimz about cli
[08:19] <damian_> lol
[08:19] <damian_> of course now why didnt i tink fo that
[08:19] <alekline> Hello all....
[08:19] <damian_> this flu thats why damnit
[08:19] <cipi604> :)
[08:19] <muraii> Command Line Interface
[08:20] <alekline> Im newbie in Ubuntu and Linux, I need to know how I can see my NTFS Partition
[08:20] <intelikey> slimz in linux most commands are both case and order sensitive.   (read ubotu CLI ^)    cp -R dir new.location
[08:20] <Mantice> Ah ok im still geting the hang of this :)
[08:20] <intelikey> muraii 25 seconds here.... lag
[08:20] <roryy> !tell alekline about windowsdrives
[08:20] <damian_> this wolfmame is shit
[08:20] <alekline> Hello....... Anybody wants to help me?
[08:21] <damian_> i just installed it
[08:21] <damian_> there is better
[08:21] <nalioth> damian_: language please
[08:21] <alekline> thansk!!!!!!!!
[08:21] <slimz> intelikey:  oh i see, i didn't know you would need a switch for a folder
[08:21] <damian_> sorry
[08:21] <linux_galore> Mantice: there are thousands of packages for Debian/Ubuntu so because it says one file is missing really doesnt tell us much because we dont know every file thats in those thousands of packages
[08:21] <damian_> my abd
[08:21] <damian_> bad
[08:21] <thoreauputic> !tell alekline about ask
[08:21] <muraii> Wow, this is horrible.
[08:22] <muraii> intelikey: ircss showed about 64 seconds last time 'round.
[08:22] <intelikey> slimz  man cp     hehhe for that matter    man man
[08:22] <Mantice> Could you try "http://wolfmame.marpirc.net/xwolfmame-0104.tar.bz2" and see it it works ?
[08:22] <Mantice> Its 4 mb
[08:22] <linux_galore> Mantice: best bet is to search on www.google.com/linux  and see what package contains the missing lib
[08:22] <alekline> Hey friends, thanks for your suppor
[08:22] <alekline> t
[08:22] <Mantice> Its a mame emulater
[08:22] <intelikey> holycow i didn't know that linux was a program ?
[08:22] <roryy> Mantice: you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search for specific files; additionally, i see mame is already in the repos
[08:22] <thoreauputic> !patience
[08:22] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[08:22] <linux_galore> Mantice: then use apt-get install   to install the missing package
[08:23] <thoreauputic> alekline: kind of hard to hel if we don't know your problem...
[08:23] <thoreauputic> *help
[08:23] <MistaED> mantice: looks like the program is looking for an old copy of gtk, v2.4 and the current stable version is like 2.8 somethting
[08:23] <roryy> thoreauputic: he's already been helped
[08:23] <linux_galore> Mantice: mame is in the main online package repository, all you needed to do was use apt-get or synaptic to install mame and you wouldnt have this headache
[08:23] <steel> when i try to report the bug, it says an error has occured... thats all
[08:24] <muraii> Okay, well, it's great to be on telegraph here; but I'll have to check ya later.
[08:24] <damian_> MANTICE: "apt-get install xmame-common"
[08:24] <MistaED> unless ubuntu still has deb packages for v2.4, it might be a bit difficult to get going, unless you can get it to point to 2.8 to compile instead
[08:24] <thoreauputic> roryy: ah OK - I thought he was complaining - my mistake :)
[08:24] <alekline> Ij, I have Windows Xp installed and I make a new partition... then, I installed Ubuntu, the problem is that I cant' see the NTFS partition from ubuntu
[08:24] <intelikey> muraii i'm on dialup and doing a major install/dl  atm   so the 20-30 second lag is normal.    but about a 1 second when not using all my band-narrowness  (some have band-width, not me.)   :)
[08:24] <roryy> thoreauputic: hrm, maybe i was wrong...
[08:24] <damian_> MANTICE: "apt-get install xmame-x"
[08:24] <alekline> and I need some documents stored in that partition
[08:24] <roryy> alekline: did you read the link ubotu sent you ?
[08:25] <thoreauputic> !tell alekline abut mountwindows
[08:25] <intelikey> well looks like he missed that...
[08:25] <Mantice> Thanks Im doing that now
[08:26] <damian_> different program but yes u can play your mame roms and it will be much simpler for you
[08:26] <Rhisc2> hey
[08:26] <Rhisc2> its working!
[08:26] <alekline> Hey guys, you are really good support
[08:26] <linux_galore> Mantice: quick lesson, dont randomly grab binaries with Linux, thats the windows way and is also why windows has serious security problem, learn how to use and setup your package manager then if you want to install anything its just a matter of typing (or clicking through the synaptic GUI app)  apt-get install APP_NAME
[08:26] <Mantice> damian_ I looked that one up today but I went to the offical site only to find that its down :(
[08:26] <thoreauputic> alekline: are you registered with nickserv ?
[08:26] <alekline> i will check your answer and come back if I have some problems
[08:26] <alekline> nop, I didn't
[08:27] <linux_galore> Mantice: you dont download "anything" ever the package manager does all that for you
[08:27] <joelbryan> speaking of support, can anyone here test http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport, it's a candidate for main inclusion in Dapper Drake final CD.
[08:27] <thoreauputic> alekline: I suggest you register - the bot can't help you otherwise ( in /msg )
[08:27] <damian_> linux_galore: EXACTLY if  a programs not within synaptic its not worth downloading
[08:27] <Mantice> linux_galore: Ok will do. It seems to have a massive libery of files
[08:27] <damian_> linux_galore not worth having
[08:27] <damian_> :):)
[08:28] <thoreauputic> alekline: /msg nickserv register <your password>
[08:28] <Mantice> lol
[08:28] <alekline> Are seriusly?
[08:28] <alekline> there is a "Robot"helping us?
[08:28] <roryy> thoreauputic: hm. it would be cool if the bot checked for registration on a !tell and warned the !tell'er about it
[08:28] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[08:28] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[08:28] <alekline> this is really nice....
[08:28] <joelbryan> alekline: Hey, try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport it automates the registration process.
[08:28] <Mantice> I wish they would update XMMS to be more like Winamp
[08:29] <Mantice>  Its a bit outdated
[08:29] <thoreauputic> roryy: ubotu just refuses to do it and /msg es the !tell er :)
[08:29] <damian_> Mantice in whitch ways?
[08:29] <linux_galore> Mantice: the package manager will download all the bits and pieces any application needs for you as well as the application, in Windows you get great big binary globs, often these globs when they install install three of four copies of the same lib or in some nasty cases overwrite a lib thus breaking the whole thing, the Linux package manager stops all this
[08:29] <roryy> thoreauputic: hrm. i got 'told alekline about windowsdrives' earlier from ubotu
[08:29] <alekline> Ok, OK, Im trying to understand all this information
[08:30] <damian_> mantice u want xmms to play videos or something?
[08:30] <Mantice> Nah
[08:30] <alekline> Where were Linux While I was using othe Operative Systems.....
[08:30] <thoreauputic> roryy: yes it's odd - I only got the error the second time I tried it
[08:30] <Mantice> I just liked the look of winamp and the skins
[08:30] <damian_> hmm
[08:30] <damian_> try
[08:30] <intelikey> holycow i'm saving that "blast" as evidance against M$'ism  lol
[08:30] <damian_> xmms-kjofol
[08:30] <thoreauputic> roryy: maybe ubotu has a bug :)
[08:30] <damian_> its in synaptic
[08:30] <linux_galore> alekline: its on another partition doing nothing
[08:30] <roryy> thoreauputic: impossible!
[08:30] <damian_> has much nices interface than xmms
[08:31] <thoreauputic> roryy: heh :)
[08:31] <damian_> and winamp for that matter
[08:31] <damian_> hey anyone know whats happened to the k=jofol project? is it dead?
[08:31] <intelikey> alekline same place it is now :)
[08:31] <damian_> hey anyone know whats happened to the k-jofol project? is it dead?
[08:31] <linux_galore> damian_: got a feeling its renamed
[08:32] <linux_galore> damian_: I havent seen that name in ages
[08:32] <intelikey> xmms-kjofol - XMMS remote that uses K-Jofol's skins
[08:32] <Mantice> xmms-kjofol whats that
[08:32] <Mantice> ah
[08:32] <intelikey> xmms-kjofol-skins - Skins for the xmms-kjofol package
[08:33] <damian_> basically a improved gui for xmms
[08:33] <Mantice> The winamp visual effects are crazy.
[08:33] <damian_> basically an improved gui for xmms
[08:33] <linux_galore> to be honest I havent touched xmms in year either
[08:33] <intelikey> damian_ that's all that repos search turned up...
[08:33] <Mantice> Mplayer I found is very helpful
[08:33] <linux_galore> doesnt beep media player  BPM  replace xmms now
[08:33] <thoreauputic> beep-media-player has a nicer menu setup than xmms
[08:33] <Mantice> Players every thing
[08:34] <damian_> intelikey? you want to install it?
[08:34] <intelikey> damian_ no
[08:34] <linux_galore> Mantice: yeah mplayer is pretty good for commercial codec support
[08:34] <scotiab1> Is there a utility installed by default on ubuntu that will let me burn files to dvds?
[08:34] <Mantice> XMMS takes like 10 secs to find my soundcard
[08:35] <intelikey> damian_ i use sox/play
[08:35] <Mantice> Im just happy it plays OGM and MKV and good old XviD
[08:35] <linux_galore> Mantice: try BMP
[08:35] <Mantice> BMP?
[08:35] <meshe> is there a list of supported hardware for ubuntu?
[08:35] <damian_> :P
[08:35] <linux_galore> Mantice: beep media player, its a fixed up new version of xmms
[08:35] <Mantice> Oh
[08:35] <Mantice> Beep media player
[08:35] <thoreauputic> !info beep-media-player
[08:35] <ubotu> beep-media-player: (Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 3588 kB
[08:35] <damian_> didnt like beep it dosent have a video plugin
[08:35] <intelikey> beep media player
[08:35] <alekline> Thotreauputic: I am really new in all this..... tell me, do I have to download this file: ubuntu-live-support-0.3.14-5.tar.gz ???
[08:35] <damian_> or does it?
[08:36] <Mantice> Ooooh
[08:36] <joelbryan> alekline: no download the deb file
[08:36] <roryy> !tell meshe about hardware
[08:36] <thoreauputic> alekline: where did you read that?
[08:36] <meshe> thx roryy
[08:36] <roryy> meshe: probably incomplete, but the best we can do
[08:36] <linux_galore> alekline: you dont download anything with Ubuntu
[08:36] <alekline> In this link: "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport" and then, how do I Installed? I know i have to use the console
[08:37] <alekline> ok, ok
[08:37] <linux_galore> alekline: you just tell the package manager what you want and it will go of and grab it for you
[08:37] <meshe> roryy: i'm working on the 3rd network card none of them will dhcp an address, yet they all work in windows
[08:37] <alekline> I know there is something called "aptitude"
[08:37] <joelbryan> alekline: download, ubuntu-live-support_0.3.14-6_i386.deb, and run sudo dpkg --install ./ubuntu-live-support_0.3.14-6_i386.deb
[08:37] <thoreauputic> alekline: try synaptic package manager first
[08:37] <linux_galore> alekline: apt-get
[08:37] <joelbryan> alekline: no, it's not yet in the aptitude
[08:38] <joelbryan> or synaptic
[08:38] <alekline> ok, ok... I will try the sympathic thing
[08:38] <linux_galore> alekline: or use synpatic if you want a clicky graphical tool thats basically a front end for apt-get
[08:38] <Mantice> I think BMP has changed its name
[08:38] <alekline> thanks for your help
[08:38] <linux_galore> synaptic*
[08:38] <Mantice>  Audacious Media Player.
[08:39] <CuriousCat> hello!
[08:39] <roryy> meshe: i believe ethernet cards are usually well suppported; try doing a manual setup to check that it isn't a dhcp or other problem
[08:39] <thoreauputic> alekline: ah, that app is quite new - probably not in the repositories yet
[08:39] <CuriousCat> Would anyone know what would be the name of the package for the SMP kernel for a 686?
[08:39] <intelikey> apt/apt-get/apt-search/apt-* aptitude adapt synaptic are all front-ends to the debian package manager (dpkg)
[08:39] <Mantice> Arron Live in New Zealand :)
[08:39] <meshe> ok, the current card is supported witht he comment: "Just Works, only distro that autodetects this one"
[08:39] <meshe> *sigh*
[08:39] <roryy> CuriousCat: linux-image-686-smp
[08:40] <guest_aaron> Well it seems that the 'Live Chat' app works...
[08:40] <CuriousCat> roryy, thanks!
[08:40] <guest_aaron> Excellent
[08:40] <joelbryan> alekline: download also gnome-panel_2.14.1-0ubuntu6_i386.deb from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport and install it, this will enable the "System > Help > Live Chat Support" menu.
[08:40] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: you can use apt-get to search for things not just install them
[08:40] <Mantice> Beeps called Audacious Media Player Now they still have the old version but the new ones called Audacious Media Player
[08:40] <alekline> ok
[08:40] <alekline> thanks
[08:40] <alekline> I am takin notes
[08:40] <CuriousCat> linux_galore, how?
[08:41] <joelbryan> alekline: I'm the developer of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport, and it's very stable, and needs testing
[08:41] <CuriousCat> hi joelbryan
[08:41] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat:  apt-cache search <keywords>
[08:41] <joelbryan> CuriousCat: haller1
[08:41] <roryy> joelbryan: can i run it without breaking my current irc session?
[08:41] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: apt-cache search whatever
[08:41] <sharpy> is there a way when selecting the KDE desktop in Sections in Synaptic Package manager to select all the KDE apps that come with it? or do I ahve to select each one individualy?
[08:41] <joelbryan> roryy: yes
[08:41] <alekline> hey, congratulations.....
[08:42] <alekline> You make our lives better
[08:42] <alekline> and easier
[08:42] <thoreauputic> sharpy: install kubuntu-desktop
[08:42] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, thanks!
 CuriousCat: you can use apt-get to search for things not just  install them <--- ?   do you mean apt-cache ?
[08:42] <joelbryan> alekline: wow, thanks!
[08:42] <intelikey> linux_galore ah yes,  sorry i'm lagging.
[08:42] <linux_galore> intelikey: lol
[08:43] <roryy> joelbryan: ah, it's for dapper -- sorry, that is about 48 hours worth of download for me ;)
[08:43] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, this would be the one, right? --> kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp
[08:43] <linux_galore> intelikey: Im not too fast either Im doing support in a few channels
[08:43] <joelbryan> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport also autoregister your nick, without having to type, /msg NickServ REGISTER...
[08:43] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: that isn't an Ubuntu kernel - where are you getting that?
[08:43] <alekline> Joelbryan, how many Kb has this file?
[08:44] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, from apt-cache
[08:44] <joelbryan> alekline: probably 90kb?
[08:44] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: do you have Debian sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[08:44] <alekline> I don't know if the download is complete and the file has 34 kb
[08:44] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, i don't think so... let me checl
[08:44] <toogreen> hey guys im running dapper, just tried to install google's picassa with wine... it worked #1 !!
[08:44] <joelbryan> alekline: it's just 34 kb
[08:44] <whiter> okay i got xfce installed
[08:44] <alekline> ok
[08:45] <whiter> but, my resolution is all messed up, anyone know how to get a better resolution?
[08:45] <alekline> i got the file in my desktop....
[08:45] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: you want linux-image - and it should be a 2.6.* kernel
[08:45] <alekline> joelbryan: just go to my console and..... ??
[08:45] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, well, they're all ubuntu sources. let me search again
[08:45] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: search for linux-image
[08:46] <alekline> joelbryan: sudo dpkg --install ./ubuntu-live-support_0.3.14-6_i386.deb
[08:46] <damian_> whiter: system->preferences->Screen Resolution
[08:46] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, linux-image-2.6.15-21-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP/UP ??
[08:46] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: thta's a dapper kernel - are you on dapper ?
[08:46] <Mantice> Did any one know the XMMS2 Is out ?
[08:46] <sharpy> thoreauputic, thank u. :-)
[08:47] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, yup
[08:47] <damian_> yes
[08:47] <damian_> xmms2 is shit
[08:47] <damian_> its a commant line program
[08:47] <Mantice> is it
[08:47] <intelikey> i forget which is the meta package linux-<blah>  or linux-image-<blah>   ?
[08:47] <Mantice> really lol
[08:47] <damian_> thus not making it an x multimedia system
[08:47] <sharpy> damian_, is it xmms?
[08:47] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: afaik dapper kernels are SMP by default
[08:47] <Mantice> Audacious Media Player is the best then its like the new BEEP
[08:47] <damian_> ?
[08:47] <damian_> is it?
[08:47] <damian_> its clearly
[08:47] <damian_> xmms2
[08:47] <thoreauputic> !enter
[08:47] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:48] <sharpy> damian_, what i meant was.. does it do anything that xmms doesn't do?
[08:48] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, oooh! coolness! So i don't need to install an smp kernel anymore because it's there? :D
[08:48] <damian_> oh
[08:48] <joelbryan> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport is for dapper, you can install the gnome-panel to enable "System > Help > Live Chat Support" menu.
[08:48] <thoreauputic> CuriousCat: ask in #ubuntu+1 - but I think that's right
[08:48] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, ok.
[08:48] <damian_> not really except that its a  backend now days
[08:49] <damian_> there will be an official xmms2 gui that will probably be close to wina,mp
[08:49] <meshe> what reasons would i not see a link light on my nic?
[08:49] <sharpy> damian_, i c.
[08:49] <damian_> although thats nowhere near ready and the dodgy gtk frontends are useless
[08:50] <damian_> just for testing the backend obviously simply no functionality
[08:50] <damian_> #xmms2
[08:50] <intelikey> link light ?
[08:50] <joelbryan> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport automatically join you to a particular channel that depends on your language and location.
[08:50] <Mantice> Can you add repositrys that are uptodate with firefox
[08:50] <thoreauputic> !ff1.5
[08:50] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:51] <Mantice> No way man last time I did it I dident have a firefox
[08:51] <CuriousCat> thoreauputic, hmmm. no one talking. :P i'll just lurk
[08:51] <meshe> yeah, the light on the network card that shows you have a good link with your hub/switch/router
[08:51] <thoreauputic> Mantice: then you made a mistake - works fine here
[08:51] <Mantice> Last time I tryed firefox booted then crashed
[08:51] <meshe> i've ruled out any hardware related issues
[08:51] <Mantice> Ooh New Ubuntu comes out soon :)
[08:52] <meshe> the cable, card and hub are all tested on a windows and another ubuntu machine
[08:52] <joelbryan> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport aims to provide an interface to communicate to other ubuntu users with the same language & location, as well as to connect to the official ubuntu channel in Freenode.org. It also aims to get live chat support from ubuntu users right into the desktop menu, via "System > Help > Live Chat Support".
[08:54] <movpclr> anyone hae any experience setting up a multiple user samba share?  I would like to have each user have access to the same share, but eeach "role" to have separate priveledges.
[08:54] <intelikey> joelbryan are you just spamming around or is there a method to the madness ?
[08:54] <joelbryan> spamming i guess
[08:54] <GTroy_> what would make breezy freeze after the monitors shut off?
[08:54] <sharpy> movpclr, apt-get install kde-network and configure the samba module.
[08:55] <movpclr> does that require all of the kde libs as well?
[08:55] <sharpy> movpclr, if you have KDE already installed then the answer is no.
[08:55] <anTiX2> I can't restart mysql after updating to latest ver in breezy.. :(
[08:55] <Mantice> Berkeley ?
[08:55] <whiter> anyone know why my resolution is stuck on 640x480
[08:56] <movpclr> sharpy: i use XFCE/Gnome so I have no KDE libs installed
[08:56] <Mantice> xorg option ?
[08:56] <sharpy> whiter, your /etc/fstab did not detect your video settings. What is your max monitors resolution?
[08:56] <whiter> 1152x768
[08:56] <whiter> and im using xfce
[08:57] <sharpy> movpclr, one way to do it is via KDE or manually edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:57] <joelbryan> I really need user's base to test it, this is a candidate for dapper release, so please, test http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport
[08:57] <whiter> sharpy how can i fix it?
[08:57] <lantzilla> is root enabled by default?
[08:57] <sharpy> whiter, goto /etc/X11/xorg.conf and check the monitor section.
[08:57] <whiter> its all correct.
[08:57] <sharpy> whiter, fix what? the users priveleges?
[08:57] <movpclr> sharpy: I would prefer to just manually edit the config file but I cannot seem to find any definitive answer to my question
[08:57] <intelikey> whiter not correct v-sync and h-ref rates in /etc/X11/xorg.conf    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and answer all questions correctly.
[08:57] <whiter> no my resolution.
[08:58] <whiter> ok intelikey
[08:58] <sharpy> whiter, intelikey is correct. I just had a brainfart.
[08:59] <sharpy> movpclr, i am not sure how. man samba and/or smb.conf. I edited that file via KDE.
[08:59] <GTroy> HELP!!! whenever I leave my computer it freezes
[08:59] <Kr0ntab> dont leave it then
[08:59] <Kr0ntab> :-P
[08:59] <Den> Hi - How do I use "info" (textinfo - view command documentation) to find all the documentation pages/files about grub?  When I do "info grub", I just get the same as "man grub", and no links to the other grub pages, like for the command "grub-install" - I'm trying to find all the grub commands & documentation - how do I do that?
[08:59] <GTroy> har
[09:00] <movpclr> sharpy: yeah I will have to sit down and read through the man pages, thought someone might have the "quick fix"
[09:00] <thoreauputic> GTroy: might be one of the screensavers causing that
[09:00] <GTroy> thoreauputic: it happens when the screens shut off
[09:00] <thoreauputic> GTroy: then I don't know
[09:00] <crunchyfish> it's lonely GTroy
[09:00] <sharpy> movpclr, when u say user permissions u mean certain folders to be accessed?
[09:00] <intelikey> whiter also of note,  http://monitorworld.com  might help you find the correct settings for your monitor.   there is a search option on that page.....   use as needed.
[09:00] <Kr0ntab> does yer Key board respond?  i.e. caps lock... num-lock?
[09:01] <GTroy> nope nothing Kr0ntab
[09:01] <GTroy> crunchyfish: ?
[09:01] <kumar> hi
[09:01] <intelikey> Den info info
[09:02] <HyperStream> ahh i just reboot my ubuntu and when starting it hangs on LVM Volume Manager or something like this. ive just installed a new harddrive(not touching the other one with ubuntu and windows dual boot) so i did a boot in recovery mode and it seems /dev/hda8 (/var) 's superblock is messed up and corrupted is there any way i can fix this without loosing data on the partition? (in windows or linux console)
[09:02] <movpclr> GTroy: I had the same problem, it was due to terrible ATI support by default.  I had to turn off the screensaver, which was causing the problem.
[09:02] <GTroy> movpclr: good I'll shut it off then
[09:03] <Mantice> Are you haveing the laggy screen saver problem with your screen savers
[09:03] <GTroy> Mantice: nope
[09:03] <GTroy> works great
[09:03] <movpclr> GTroy: yeah, I turned it to just blank screen
[09:03] <Mantice> I get 300 fps now :)
[09:03] <Mantice> ATi drivers are a pain to install but its worth it
[09:03] <intelikey> HyperStream "testdisk"  maybe....
[09:04] <GTroy> movpclr: I have a dual setup, and both screens show different screensavers
[09:04] <Aqutavia> is the string "startx gconf-editor " a cli command?
[09:04] <lantzilla> found how to enable root
[09:04] <lantzilla> thanks
[09:04] <whiter> for those x changes to take place do i restart?
[09:04] <movpclr> GTroy: I am not familiar with the dual screen setup, try turning both off and see if the problem continues
[09:05] <sharpy> whiter, control alt backspace
[09:05] <GTroy> movpclr: ok
[09:05] <whiter> i just logged off
[09:05] <whiter> didnt seem to work...
[09:05] <whiter> guess ill restart
[09:05] <nemoo> good morning
[09:05] <Den> intelikey: thanks:)
[09:05] <HyperStream> intelikey ill give that a shot
[09:06] <nemoo> does anyone have problems with that your hda becomes hde when installing a pci ide controller?
[09:06] <Mantice> Is there any 3d linux rpgs I dont know about ? As far as I know there is none
[09:06] <nemoo> as soon as I pull the card out, my first ide is hda again :/
[09:06] <nemoo> but I need the controller for more disks....
[09:06] <nemoo> any ideas? :)
[09:07] <whiter> okay, that didnt work
[09:08] <intelikey> nemoo static device nodes for use in fstab......   that would only be a work around.
[09:08] <whiter> anyone know why my resolution is stuck on 640x480 using xubuntu?
[09:08] <intelikey> whiter pastebin your xorg.conf file and we'll have a look
[09:09] <intelikey> !paste
[09:09] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[09:09] <whiter> k
[09:10] <nemoo> intelikey, yeah, but thats kind of annoying... isnt it possible that it kind of "Detects" the controller after the onboard ones?
[09:10] <linux_galore> whiter: whats the graphics chipset
[09:10] <nemoo> I think that this is the problem... it detects the damn ide controller first and assigns that the letters
[09:11] <Mantice> Do you think Ubuntu would be happy with  Geforce 3 or a Radion 7000 ?
[09:11] <whiter> its onboard
[09:11] <whiter> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13051
[09:12] <linux_galore> Mantice: Nvidia has better drivers than ATi when it comes to Linux
[09:12] <linux_galore> whiter:  ?? on board means nothing
[09:12] <Mantice> Yeah I found that out the hard way :) 9600 XT stupid thing
[09:12] <Mantice> I got it working :)
[09:12] <whiter> onboard meaning my graphics card is built into the motherboard
[09:12] <whiter> by intel
[09:13] <earl_> any of you fellas have any success running XGL/Compiz?
[09:13] <whiter> and also, the video worked perfect with ubuntu, just not xubuntu
[09:13] <linux_galore> whiter: ooh great Intel only sell a few hundred chipsets
[09:14] <whiter> its an i810 chipset
[09:15] <linux_galore> whiter: ok the reason is simple its not using a driver just a generic vesa setup
[09:15] <whiter> ok
[09:15] <whiter> should i use like vga or something?
[09:16] <whiter> oh
[09:16] <whiter> hehe i got it
[09:16] <linux_galore> no just put i810 were vesa is
[09:17] <linux_galore> Driver                "vesa"  should be Driver                "i810"
[09:17] <damian_> whats xubuntu?
[09:17] <intelikey> vesa
[09:18] <damian_> and whats better about enterprise editions of ubuntu?
[09:18] <intelikey> oh you already got it.  sorry my bad.
[09:18] <plbgnr> hello, I have got script which I want to run after every start of system ...how to achieve this?
[09:18] <damian_> plbgnr within gnome?
[09:18] <whiter> alright be right back
[09:18] <damian_> plbgnr or as a terminal app on startup
[09:18] <Guma> !xgl
[09:18] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:18] <intelikey> plbgnr sysvinit.
[09:19] <ice_1963> xfce4
[09:19] <intelikey> put the script in /etc/init.d/   and symlink it in /etc/rc?.d/
[09:19] <earl_> guma, if that was for me, i don't really need a howto, i just experienced a weird problem and was wondering if anyone else experienced it
[09:19] <CuriousCat> !ipw3945
[09:19] <ubotu> CuriousCat: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:20] <CuriousCat> would anyone know how to install ipw3945?
[09:20] <highvoltage> i'm sure someone would :p
[09:20] <plbgnr> intelikey: thanks and which character for '?'
[09:20] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: I feeel a del laptop, iiiiits blaaaack with a biiiig screeeen, aaand your in heeeell
[09:20] <whiter> alright it works now
[09:20] <linux_galore> heh heh
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[09:21] <whiter> wow xfce is so fast and neat and clean
[09:21] <whiter> :)
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[09:21] <eclair> whiter: i lurve using xfce too
[09:21] <damian_> lol
[09:21] <CuriousCat> linux_galore, er... hmmm.
[09:21] <damian_> i guess could try
[09:22] <anTiX2> does Update-manager leave a log of what it has done?
[09:23] <whiter> oh yea, forgot about that
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[09:23] <whiter> omg, the fonts are so nice in xfce
[09:23] <whiter> :)
[09:23] <whiter> lol
[09:23] <intelikey> " If you see a company using Linux, it may be that they have not paid for this software. Report them to the Business Software Alliance who have the legal authority to inspect any company's computers for illegal programs like Linux. "   <--- from 'ShelleyTheRepublican.com: Linux: A European threat to our computers (p4 of 329)'  lol  man am i the only one that would be ashamed to be called a republican if that is what they are
[09:23] <slavik> yo
[09:24] <Aqutavia> to all of those that are still in the channle.... thanx for the help on my screen resolution problems.
[09:24] <Kr0ntab> cat /var/log/dpkg.log
[09:24] <holy_cow> intelikey, i think its a very clever parody
[09:24] <npfet> anyone running dapper, and updated recently, and noticing some ugly fonts?
[09:25] <whiter> yes
[09:25] <holy_cow> intelikey, if you go to the main blog page and scroll down, there is a link to buy a tshirt with 'i love gitmo' on it
[09:25] <holy_cow> :)
[09:25] <whiter> before i switched back to breezy npfet...
[09:25] <holy_cow> it HAS  to be a parody
[09:25] <whiter> and xfce
[09:25] <npfet> whiter: ah at least it isn't just me then :P
[09:25] <npfet> whiter: was working fine from dapper a week or two ago :/
[09:25] <npfet> i'll live tho :P
[09:25] <holy_cow> npfet, in epiphany browser only,its picking up websitefonts instead of my predefined fonts
[09:26] <npfet> holy_cow: ah, i notice it in epiphany and tomboy
[09:26] <eclair> npfet: no ugly fonts ... so far but i have only been on dapper for 2 days
[09:26] <whiter> well time to plug back in my ide hard drive and mount it
[09:26] <whiter> brb
[09:26] <slavik> networkmanager rocks
[09:26] <holy_cow> npfet, let me try tomboy
[09:26] <npfet> holy_cow: not so much in firefox, tho some fonts look a little bad (little noticeable on /.)
[09:27] <holy_cow> ffox looks fine to me, it kept my fonts
[09:27] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: the driver is still beta
[09:27] <npfet> holy_cow: k... really noticeable for me on the list of notes when it is clicked (not as much in the notes themselves)
[09:27] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=ipw3945-devel
[09:27] <ubuntu> bjr a tous
[09:28] <ocult> hello
[09:28] <Hyper> my /var (/hda8
[09:28] <ocult> somebody here have sound Realtek AC 97 ?
[09:28] <ubuntu> je recherccheche le chat ubuntu en francais svp
[09:28] <ocult> because here is bugging.. forums dont solve my problem
[09:28] <ocult> hello ?
[09:28] <holy_cow> npfet, tomboy looks fine here, uses system fonts properly it seems
[09:28] <holy_cow> npfet, did you upgrade from breezy?
[09:28] <havien> ocult, whats goin on?
[09:28] <linux_galore> ocult: the rtl stuff works
[09:28] <Hyper> my /var (/hda8) has messed up fdisk thinks its a swap partition something about the superblocks. is there any tools i can use to fix a partition or check disk for errors and repair it ?
[09:29] <earl_> i have that sound chip, ocult
[09:29] <holy_cow> this is a clean install, when i upgraded from breezy they other day, firefox was doing some weird stuff with fonts ... probably muckedup my config
[09:29] <ocult> >linux_galore<: i cant execeute 2 sounds at same time.. when i change xmms to open something in vcl.. i need press stop many times to sound work...
[09:29] <linux_galore> ocult: might have to turn the volume up often the drivers default to muted
[09:29] <npfet> holy_cow: yes, and it was working in dapper for a couple of weeks, before i dist-upgrade'd today
[09:29] <ocult> [earl_] : i cant execeute 2 sounds at same time.. when i change xmms to open something in vcl.. i need press stop many times to sound work...
[09:29] <ubuntu> where is the french chat ubuntu svp
[09:29] <npfet> holy_cow: yah, i was hoping that i wouldn't have to clean install =)
[09:29] <Fujitsu> !fr
[09:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:29] <CuriousCat> linux_galore, according to this, it's already stable
[09:29] <intelikey> hyper did you try 'testdisk' ?
[09:30] <holy_cow> npfet, don't, post a bug then, i thought it was only me
[09:30] <npfet> holy_cow: trying to think of any config files that i could try wiping..
[09:30] <damian_> ocult you want to play more than one sound at once?
[09:30] <linux_galore> ocult: thats not the drivers thats normal for xmms, one reason I refuse to use it
[09:30] <holy_cow> npfet, a bug will mean something gets done about it
[09:30] <Hyper> intelikey no such command.
[09:30] <Hyper> i thought you were having me on :/
[09:30] <sfar> how do i install a windows application (install.exe) so i can run it with wine? :)
[09:30] <damian_> linux_galore its acually not a  xmms problem i dont have this issue
[09:30] <holy_cow> npfet, well you can try moving .mozilla and .tomboy out of the way and see what happens
[09:30] <npfet> holy_cow: true.. I did find a couple related to fonts, but they were sorta ambigious (they only mentionined firefox/epiphany)
[09:30] <linux_galore> CuriousCat: if your a code monkey yes
[09:30] <ocult> [damian_] : yes. for example if im in xmms. and press pause. and go to site where i can see one video.. the sound no work. i need close the xmms or vcl first
[09:30] <Hyper> sfar with wine
[09:30] <earl_> ocult: sorry dude, i can't really help you, all i can tell you is i dont have htat problem
[09:31] <npfet> holy_cow: yea..
[09:31] <Hyper> intelikey any idea's?
[09:31] <sfar> Hyper: ah.. hehe.. of course :)
[09:31] <ocult> [[earl_] ] : :/
[09:31] <npfet> holy_cow: where is gconf stuff stored?
[09:31] <havien> ocult, i have that problem but don't have the ac'97
[09:31] <ocult> [havien] : but u know solv this ?
[09:31] <ocult> :/
[09:31] <holy_cow> .gconf
[09:31] <holy_cow> :)
[09:31] <havien> ocult, i'm running in vmware
[09:31] <ocult> havien: i see
[09:31] <damian_> ocult i used to have the same problem
[09:32] <ocult> un
[09:32] <damian_> make sure you have enerything going via alsa
[09:32] <npfet> holy_cow: oh so it is :P
[09:32] <holy_cow> npfet, all that stuff is in your home dir ... just press crtl / h when looking at your home dir to see the hidden files
[09:32] <intelikey> Hyper if you have hosed /var  you have pretty much hosed linux.   but it shouldn't affect windows.    Hyper  it's in the repos... you probably cant install it with /var hosed.   but you could google and dl the static testdisk binarry and run it.
[09:32] <damian_> gtk and gnome apps
[09:32] <npfet> holy_cow: I was only looking under .gnome2 :P
[09:32] <holy_cow> ah okay you know :)
[09:32] <damian_> and any program like media playes wheres theres seperate options
[09:32] <damian_> as in
[09:32] <damian_> goto gnome settings and trhere will be one calles sound deamon or something similar
[09:32] <earl_> damian, i've had more success with OSS
[09:33] <intelikey> Hyper i think there is even a M$ version of testdisk
[09:33] <npfet> holy_cow: ya, just so many dot files :P
[09:33] <holy_cow> not really, after a while you look at a forest and see individual trees and their properties ... give it time
[09:34] <Chri[s] > so sudo su isnt recommended?
[09:34] <damian_> thing is i cant get more than one program playing sounbd in oss either
[09:34] <holy_cow> your body just has to aclimatize it self to the environment
[09:34] <Chri[s] > Anyone know how to fix grub ?
[09:34] <ocult> then my sound will begin bugged
[09:34] <ocult> :O
[09:34] <ubuntu_> hello
[09:34] <ocult> better dont change nothing..
[09:34] <ocult> :/
[09:34] <intelikey> Chri[s]  sudo -i
[09:34] <npfet> holy_cow: no no, i know what most are for, just skip over some (usually don't look in nautilus, but start hitting tab in the shell)
[09:34] <damian_> sudo su!!!!!! fuck off WHY Didnt i think of that
[09:34] <havien> ocult,
[09:35] <holy_cow> npfet, ehe :)
[09:35] <havien> try this
[09:35] <damian_> and sorry ill mind my language
[09:35] <havien> go into settings then sound
[09:35] <intelikey> Chri[s]   fix grub ?
[09:35] <ubuntu_> running a make command but cannot find gcc have gcc-3.3 installed
[09:35] <intelikey> what's wrong with it ?
[09:35] <ocult> (havien)~%: where is it ?
[09:35] <havien> scoll down to you find login or logout and click play on each one at the same time
[09:35] <animato> hello, my screensaver's blanking the screen even when i'm playing games! i thought it was supposed to do it while it's idle, but i was using the keyboard, anyway to stop it?
[09:35] <Guardian> hello, i need to setup an ubuntu distrib but i'm not in a hurry. should i wait for 1st of june ? i'm afraid upgrading brezzy badger to dapper drake will leave garbage somewhere in the various directories
[09:36] <intelikey> ubuntu_ install b-e
[09:36] <Chri[s] > Does LILO let you boot into single user mode?
[09:36] <darkshadow> Anyone good at figuring out wireless network problems?
[09:36] <ocult> havien: where is ?
[09:36] <intelikey> !b-e
[09:36] <ubotu> b-e is, like, totally, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[09:36] <Chri[s] > Yeah GRUB lets you boot into single user mode
[09:36] <ubuntu_> intelikey: what is b-e?
[09:36] <havien> ocult, settings|sound|scroll down till you find log in and log out click on one click play then click on the other and click play
[09:36] <intelikey> Chri[s]  yes   both lilo and grub allow that
[09:36] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[09:36] <ubotu> b-e is, like, totally, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[09:37] <Chri[s] > intelikey, can it be turned off?
[09:37] <havien> see if you hear both at the same time
[09:37] <ocult> [havien] : if no...
[09:37] <havien> if no... then i don't know what to do next...
[09:37] <Kr0ntab> Chri[s] , what type of wireless issues ya having?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> Chri[s] : not really - aanyone can boot linux with init=/bin/bash for instance
[09:38] <havien> it might be a bad install of xmms
[09:38] <ocult> [havien] : :) thanks
[09:38] <ubuntu_> ubotu : ok thanks
[09:38] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu_
[09:38] <ocult> [havien] : it happen in all system.. in vlc.. and firefox too
[09:38] <intelikey> Chri[s]  if you are asking if there is a way to secure a box that the user can power on with hands on.... no it can't be done.
[09:38] <havien> it will let you know if the sound daemon is functioning correctly
[09:38] <havien> vlc?
[09:38] <Chri[s] > intelikey i know that
[09:38] <ocult> [havien] : yes.. or totem
[09:39] <The-Shadow> moin
[09:39] <ocult> [havien] : i mean.. if i enter in one site and see one video with sound.. other sounds of system like games or other programs dont work.. then i need close first the application using the sound
[09:39] <ocult> [havien] : just work one sound per application
[09:39] <ocult> :/
[09:39] <ocult> its the problem
[09:39] <intelikey> Chri[s]  then i guess i don't understand your question
[09:39] <havien> try doing what i described
[09:39] <ocult> yes
[09:39] <havien> it should play both sounds at the same time
[09:39] <ocult> i will
[09:39] <havien> one over the other
[09:39] <ocult> thanks
[09:40] <npfet> holy_cow: hrm just created a new user, logged in.. tomboy doesn't have any font problems now, epiphany still does
[09:40] <The-Shadow> does it give a German channel?
[09:40] <intelikey> !de
[09:40] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[09:40] <holy_cow> npfet, thats what i thought ... epi doesn't respect my font settings
[09:41] <holy_cow> npfet, post a font bug for both packages plz
[09:41] <ocult> !br
[09:41] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:41] <ocult> !pt
[09:41] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:41] <C-O-L-T> how to install a webcam in ubuntu and use it with some messenger like gaim, kopete?
[09:41] <ocult> somebody use amsn ?
[09:41] <The-Shadow> thanks
[09:41] <paloyme> once installed, does wine need to be executed or does it automatically run in the background
[09:41] <npfet> holy_cow: will do
[09:42] <C-O-L-T> !webcam
[09:42] <ubotu> I guess webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv.
[09:42] <AndyRR> C-O-L-T, use amsn
[09:42] <kryfase> hello
[09:42] <ocult> my amsn is strange
[09:42] <holy_cow> npfet, thank you
[09:42] <ocult> for some person i can send files. for others no..
[09:42] <Doat> paloyme, you have to launch win32 programs (.exe) with wine <exe>
[09:42] <ocult> the problem isnt here or in person. then where is ?
[09:43] <paloyme> doat, so i have to run wine.exe first before i could run iexplore.exe?
[09:43] <kryfase> can someone help me remember how to mount a vfat partition with correct permissions so regular users can write to it ?
[09:43] <havien> ocult, it has to do with the way their isp works or their behind a nat
[09:43] <Chri[s] > intelikey, i was just wondering if there was a way to enable logging in on single user mode before enable a prompt
[09:43] <ocult> sux
[09:43] <kryfase> i've got an application downloading files from a site and its denying permission to write to it
[09:43] <ocult> havien: need configure by hand in amsn ?
[09:43] <Chri[s] > intelikey, like ask for a password before you can be allowed to change a password
[09:43] <Doat> paloyme, there's no wine.exe. you open a terminal, cd to the directory where iexplore.exe is and do $ wine iexplore.exe
[09:43] <kryfase> i tried to chown it but it wont if its mounted ( the partitoon)
[09:43] <paloyme> oh, thenks doat
[09:43] <Doat> np
[09:44] <paloyme> doat, by the way wat is the $ sign for?
[09:44] <havien> ocult, there is a peice of hardware causeing the problem
[09:44] <havien> between your pc and theirs
[09:44] <intelikey> paloyme explorer may not work in wine  but for what ever M$ app    do   wine /path/to/file.exe
[09:44] <ocult> [havien] : :O i use notebook
[09:44] <havien> ocult, it doesn't have to be on your end
[09:44] <havien> could be on theres
[09:44] <ocult> i see
[09:44] <Doat> paloyme, it just means you have to do that command. ignore it and just write "wine iexplore.exe" without the quotes
[09:44] <Kr0ntab> ocult, depending on the protocol being used... many times file transfers are blocked due to NAT and firewalls.  You'll find information regarding getting file transfers working at their respective FAQ sites.
[09:44] <havien> could be built into the isp
[09:45] <Chri[s] > Doesnt the $ = your user level
[09:45] <ocult> i use router
[09:45] <Chri[s] > root is #
[09:45] <ocult> but i just open the port for use webcam
[09:45] <ocult> then connection is firewalled
[09:45] <ocult> lol
[09:45] <Chri[s] > I need help on getting a creative zen mirco to work on ubuntu
[09:45] <Doat> Chri[s] , yep. though ubuntu doesn't have root user
[09:46] <Chri[s] > Doat,  Yes it does
[09:46] <ocult> !Doat!: i play yugi oh online.. xine can execute the game for me ? :)
[09:46] <Chri[s] > Doat, ROOT is an account on Ubuntu
[09:46] <mDot> ubuntu doesn't have a root user by default
[09:46] <intelikey> Chri[s]  yes lilo has an option to require passwords   i haven't played with it myself  but i have read a little on it...     man lilo
[09:46] <intelikey> man lilo.conf
[09:46] <mDot> you can however use the sudo command, or create a root shelll
[09:46] <rabeldable> yes it does its just disabled
[09:46] <Chri[s] > Yes it has one
[09:46] <holy_cow> hower please dont create a root account
[09:46] <intelikey> ubuntu does indeed have root.
[09:46] <sharpy> my system fonts on Kubuntu are awfully small. I run a 1280x1024 resolution. Is it because of this? I can barely read what I am typing. How can I change my font size? and where ?
[09:46] <holy_cow> !root
[09:46] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:46] <Chri[s] > there's a root folder
[09:47] <ocult> [havien] : lol. other day i tried install bbox.. but it is pure.. dont have nothing. to execute programs need go to console.. :P
[09:47] <holy_cow> readthat first please, it will inform  you of some things you should know
[09:47] <sinta[x] > you can always edit /etc/passwd and make more root users ;)
[09:47] <Doat> Chri[s] , i mean you can't use su to change to root but use sudo
[09:47] <anTiX2> I got my mysql working again. I had to touch /var/lib/mysql/ip-162-ce01283-p20-idrots1.lower-test... strange?
[09:47] <Kr0ntab> mDot, root is always there... it's just "locked" so to say.  i.e. passwd -l root
[09:47] <Doat> Chri[s] , so you can't really do # command in ubuntu by default
[09:47] <Hobbsee> sharpy: system settings, on the kmenu
[09:47] <mDot> Doat you can do sudo -s -H to create a root shell
[09:47] <ocult> !jp
[09:47] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ocult
[09:48] <ocult> dont exist in japaneses ?
[09:48] <Chri[s] > no
[09:48] <intelikey> Doat mDot you both need to go read !sudo    just because a pasword is locked does not mean the account isn't there.  and every time you issue an sudo  you use the 'root' account.
[09:48] <ocult> lol
[09:48] <sharpy> Hobbsee, i tried font installer but that's to install fonts? not modify the size?
[09:48] <intelikey> !sudo
[09:48] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:48] <rabeldable> you can do anything you want in ubuntu - you just better know what your doing!  its linux.
[09:48] <Chri[s] > i was just noticing the prompt char changes from $, to #, when changing who i was
[09:48] <holy_cow> well that goes for anything
[09:48] <Hobbsee> sharpy: appearance, fonts
[09:48] <holy_cow> if you want to use your tool well, learn the skills you need to do the job well :)
[09:49] <sharpy> Hobbsee, thank u.
[09:49] <holy_cow> but yes, unix is less forgiving of stupidity
[09:49] <holy_cow> :)
[09:49] <intelikey> well said rabeldable
[09:50] <rabeldable> the first thing I did was enable my root account.... call me stupid but I don't like typing sudo  I've had my box working wih no problems since breezy was released
[09:50] <Flannel> holy_cow: that's only because *nix assumes you know what you're doing, whereas windows assumes you dont.
[09:50] <frandavid100> hi guys
[09:50] <holy_cow> Flannel, *nod* what you said
[09:50] <thoreauputic> ROFL - look at this for a troll: http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/linux-european-threat-to-our-computers.html
[09:50] <ocult> [rabeldable] : i did too
[09:50] <thoreauputic> :D
[09:50] <intelikey> thoreauputic we saw that three hours ago.
[09:51] <thoreauputic> intelikey: Oh OK - my apologies :)
[09:51] <rabeldable> the only real problem I have had is when I tried to enable midi support to create midi files... that has since been fixed but none the less... it was a problem
[09:51] <thoreauputic> intelikey: I think it's very funny though
[09:51] <intelikey> and yes i saved shelly's post as evidance how stupidity is malicious.
[09:51] <thoreauputic> intelikey: it's a send up
[09:51] <intelikey> yes and said.
[09:51] <intelikey> sad
[09:52] <Doat> haha! "It's a computer program"
[09:52] <rabeldable> whats the bot in here again?
[09:52] <thoreauputic> intelikey: no-one can possibly take that seriously ...
[09:53] <thoreauputic> rabeldable: ubotu
[09:53] <intelikey> shelly must work for M$....  don't know why anyone else would talk like that, even in ignorance.
[09:53] <rabeldable> there was a command for !perms  but it does not work anymore... what happened with that?
[09:53] <thoreauputic> intelikey: As I said, it's a conscious send up of anti-Linux trolls
[09:53] <intelikey> never underestimate ignorance.
[09:54] <ocult> [[havien] ] : do u just use gnome?
[09:54] <havien> yes
[09:54] <rabeldable> !permissions
[09:54] <ubotu> permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[09:54] <C-O-L-T> amsn has yahoo support?
[09:54] <rabeldable> cool its still there
[09:54] <havien> C-O-L-T, gaim
[09:55] <ocult> gaim sux
[09:55] <whiter> anyone have any idea why ubuntu isnt detecting my IDE hard drive?
[09:55] <NoWhereMan> anybody here installed succesfully java 1.6?
[09:55] <C-O-L-T> havien: Gaim has no webcam support
[09:55] <intelikey> aol hehhe
[09:55] <ocult> ((C-O-L-T)): try read about mercury
[09:56] <ocult> i dont know if that have support to yahoo messenger
[09:56] <ompaul> intelikey, there is a difference, there is software for interoperating with aol
[09:57] <C-O-L-T> ocult: what is Mercury?
[09:57] <intelikey> ompaul mmm and wine.... so what's the diff ?
[09:57] <ocult> [[C-O-L-T] ] : program chat. http://mercury.to
[09:58] <whiter> :|
[09:58] <C-O-L-T> ocult: okay I will look at it
[09:58] <whiter> hdd isnt being detected by linux
[09:58] <ocult> ok
[09:58] <whiter> my second hdd
[09:58] <ompaul> intelikey, wine is not an emulator
[09:59] <intelikey> wine is wine is not an emulator.   get it right.....
[09:59] <intelikey> :)
[09:59] <whiter> im about to cry
[09:59] <whiter> heh
[09:59] <havien> whiter,
[09:59] <whiter> thing isnt detecting my ide hard drive at all, and i dont know why
[09:59] <havien> make sure the jumper is set correct
[09:59] <whiter> it is
[09:59] <ompaul> whiter, System Administration Disks
[09:59] <havien> cable select?
[09:59] <whiter> my bios detects it just fine
[09:59] <havien> ok
[10:00] <roryy> whiter: have you tried 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[10:00] <hajuu> hey guys... what do I run to logout?
[10:00] <whiter> will i lose any data?
[10:00] <whiter> it doesnt show up on mount...
[10:00] <ocult> lol
[10:00] <havien> whiter,  run fdisk --help
[10:00] <hajuu> I want to make a shortcut on the desktop to logout with for my dad
[10:00] <havien> it will explain all the command tags
[10:01] <whiter> oh it does show it
[10:01] <intelikey> whiter no "sudo fdisk -l "  only reads.  it doesn't write anything.
[10:01] <whiter> hm
[10:01] <whiter>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:01] <whiter> /dev/hdc1               1        4865    39078081    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:01] <whiter> thats it
[10:01] <whiter> but for one it isnt ntfs its ext3
[10:01] <havien> its ntfs :(
[10:01] <ocult> un
[10:01] <whiter> na its ext3 idunno why its saying its ntfs
[10:01] <ocult> havien, u preffer fat ?
[10:01] <ice_1963> why install wine jest install xp ...or jest use linux the best :)
[10:01] <havien> no
[10:02] <havien> ext3 or riserfs
[10:02] <ompaul> whiter, well your partition table says it is ntfs
[10:02] <whiter> now it doesnt
[10:02] <whiter> weird...
[10:02] <roryy> whiter: have you read the wiki page about mounting windows drives ?
[10:02] <whiter> it isnt a windows drive
[10:02] <whiter> i formatted it previously in ubuntu
[10:02] <whiter> as ext3
[10:02] <intelikey> that is the second ide cable whiter
[10:02] <havien> did you write the changes?
[10:02] <ocult> the emulator for .exe is xine or wine ? and can play games with this
[10:02] <whiter> with the disk utility thing in gnome
[10:02] <ocult> oh my good i need my cup nuddles
[10:03] <intelikey> whiter /dev/hdc1 == second ide primary dirve first partition.
[10:03] <ompaul> whiter, try mounting it as ntfs your not writing to it
[10:03] <Tm_T> ocult: err, wine is not emulator, but yes, may run some win apps
[10:03] <whiter> i know
[10:03] <whiter> its NOT NTFS
[10:03] <whiter> /dev/hdc1 on /mnt/hdc1 type ext3 (rw)
[10:04] <whiter> ah well time to backup before something stupid happens
[10:05] <ocult> [Tm_T] : games no ?
[10:05] <Tm_T> ocult: some games yes
[10:05] <ompaul> whiter, you have a rather strange partition table, personally I would backup and nuke that drive when that kind of thing happens I get shakey
[10:05] <ocult> Tm_T: yugi oh online
[10:05] <ocult> >Tm_T<: yes ?
[10:05] <Tm_T> ocult: no idea
[10:05] <ocult> :(
[10:05] <intelikey> whiter fdisk only reads the partition table.  you can have a partiton marked as ntfs with an ext# file system on it...   so don't let these gurus get to you....
[10:05] <whiter> yea ompaul good idea
[10:05] <ocult> [Tm_T] : cedega work for any game? or just for some games ?
[10:05] <ice_1963> remove --purge wine
[10:06] <Tm_T> ocult: www.winehq.org, and no, cedega isn't much better iirc
[10:06] <whiter> um one more thing, after installing xubuntu my sound stopped working
[10:06] <whiter> anyone know what to do to fix that?
[10:06] <ompaul> !sound
[10:06] <ubotu> it has been said that sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:06] <ocult> [Tm_T] : then cedega just for some games
[10:06] <ocult> !sound
[10:07] <Tm_T> ocult: yes, cedega runs some games
[10:07] <ocult> :?
[10:07] <ocult> cedega sux
[10:07] <ocult> because i play the need for speed in PSP
[10:07] <ocult> :/
[10:08] <blaq> does anyone know if the default initrd image with breezy has the md raid module?
[10:08] <ocult> !Tm_T!: here !!! ice age 2 95%
[10:08] <whiter> aplay -l shows my sound card
[10:08] <blaq> im having all sorts of trouble installing breezy onto a raid device
[10:08] <whiter> however there is stil lno sound
[10:08] <ocult> Tm_T: my father dont like i be much time in computer.. because i have 8 years old.. and im not good in english. but i can speak a little.. then sometimes i need put some movie for he dont see me doing nothing in linux.. he say i need go out more
[10:08] <intelikey> blaq yes, i believe it does in fact.
[10:09] <ocult> [Tm_T] : bust i just like computers. programming .. linux.. this things :(
[10:09] <ocult> he dont understand me
[10:09] <blaq> intelikey: do you know if there are any tricks i need to do outside the installer to get the kernel to see the md device nodes on boot?
[10:09] <whiter> uh
[10:09] <whiter> Tm_T your 8 years old?
[10:09] <ocult> me
[10:09] <blaq> it cant find /dev/md* at boot time
[10:09] <ocult> :(
[10:09] <Tm_T> whiter: thanks =)
[10:09] <whiter> ocult your 8?
[10:10] <blaq> yet i can install fine onto the raid array
[10:10] <ocult> im 8 years old.. yes
[10:10] <ocult> sorry bad english..
[10:10] <Tm_T> ocult: you're doing pretty well, for 8y ;)
[10:10] <whiter> heh
[10:10] <ocult> [Tm_T] : but father dont like it
[10:10] <whiter> you are so not 8
[10:10] <ocult> [Tm_T] : in moment i live in japan..
[10:10] <ocult> whiter, what ?
[10:10] <ice_1963> whiter:what are you trying to do install your sound card?
[10:11] <ocult> is difficult for me learn japanese... neither english i know yet
[10:11] <ice_1963> the driver
[10:11] <intelikey> blaq ahhhh raids really aren't my forte'.   but have have seen some posts about issues with them.  did you search the wiki's and the malone bugs ?
[10:11] <ocult> what mean pension ?
[10:12] <Mantice> Can some one help with Xmame ?
[10:12] <blaq> i had a look at the ubuntu wiki and it doesn't say that i need to specifically do anything to make it work
[10:12] <blaq> but i haven't seen anything about the malone bugs
[10:12] <Guardian> hello, i need to setup an ubuntu distrib but i'm not in a hurry. should i wait for 1st of june ? i'm afraid upgrading brezzy badger to dapper drake will leave garbage somewhere in the various directories
[10:12] <ocult> [havien] : here dont have operator
[10:12] <ocult> [(havien)] : ^^
[10:12] <Mantice> What does CTRL ALT BACKSPACE do ?
[10:12] <sharpy> is there a way to get 3d acceleration on this OLDE 16 meg ATI Rage mobility M1 video card?
[10:13] <whiter> nevermind, i had headphones plugged into my speakers
[10:13] <mDot> Mantice restarts the x server
[10:13] <ocult> (havien): 96% more 10 minutes...
[10:13] <intelikey> blaq sorry i can't really even steer you in a good dirrection other than to point to the wiki's   or maybe ask in ##linux   if noone in here pipes up.
[10:13] <blaq> hehe ok
[10:13] <blaq> cheers matew
[10:13] <blaq> -w
[10:13] <havien> ocult, ????
[10:13] <ocult> havien, the movie :)
[10:13] <sharpy> ubuntu runs fine but I would like to play tuxracer ...
[10:13] <sharpy> anyone know how to enable 3d?
[10:13] <ocult> age ice 2
[10:13] <Mantice> mDot How come I cant alt tab out of full screen program ?
[10:14] <mDot> Mantice not sure
[10:14] <ompaul> ocult, maybe #ubuntu-br would be more useful for you :-)
[10:14] <roryy> Mantice: kills X
[10:14] <intelikey> blaq also at different times of day different people are in here,  maybe ask at another time of day  ;/
[10:14] <ocult> >Tm_T<: how is the command to move png to jpg ? pngtojpg ?
[10:14] <havien> what movie?
[10:14] <ocult> ompaul: nobody say nothing there
[10:14] <ocult> ompaul: :(
[10:14] <Mantice> How do I boot Xback up
[10:14] <Mantice> Is there like a Ctrl alt del thing like windows
[10:14] <ocult> [[ompaul] ] : my connection is 40mb :O
[10:14] <ice_1963> for sound install alsa-base and alsa-utils and do alsaconf
[10:15] <havien> ocult,  what movie?
[10:15] <[nige] > does anyone know how to get thermal support for acpi?
[10:15] <ocult> havien: ice age
[10:15] <ocult> 2
[10:15] <ocult> :)
[10:15] <HunterZ> hi
[10:15] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:15] <ocult> or is age ice 2 ?
[10:15] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[10:15] <blaq> Mantice: it should automatically restart the X server
[10:15] <ocult> i dont know
[10:15] <ocult> ompaul: do u speak portuguese ?
[10:15] <ompaul> ocult, no
[10:16] <ocult> [ompaul] : do u speak spanish ?
[10:16] <ompaul> ocult, no
[10:16] <ocult> [ompaul] : do u speak japanese ?
[10:16] <intelikey> Mantice ctrl+alt+backspace  will reset gdm  if it is running   "restart X"  but if you are asking about starting X from console   type startx
[10:16] <ompaul> ocult, no and this is off topic
[10:16] <ocult> !ompaul!: then i can be here :) because i can speak a little english...
[10:16] <Sirrush> Hey everyone
[10:16] <Mantice> Thanks guys
[10:16] <ocult> ompaul: :)
[10:16] <ocult> Hey, ompaul: i agree
[10:16] <yannick> hello everyone!
[10:16] <Mantice> Now with the problem, Any one here use Xmame
[10:16] <SpaceAce> hey all
[10:16] <Mantice> When I type in Xmame every thing goes black
[10:17] <ompaul> ocult, so go to #ubuntu-offtopic but don't have a conversatin about films here, thanks
[10:17] <ocult> [ompaul] : :)
[10:17] <ocult> [ompaul] : lol.. let me finish my topic
[10:17] <ocult> [(havien)] : then when i begin see the movie
[10:17] <ocult> (havien)~%: if i wanna open sound of xmms for example
[10:18] <intelikey> ocult looks like he is ready to leave....
[10:18] <ocult> [havien] : first i need close the program... where i running the movie...
[10:18] <yannick> I wanted to ask if it is a a known bug that the installer freezes when configuring libfontconfig1 because i tried to install kubuntu and ubuntu and it happens with both cds.
[10:18] <julius> hi
[10:18] <ompaul> yannick, you need to check launchpad.net for that
[10:18] <Sirrush> Hi julius
[10:18] <ocult> >ompaul<: :/
[10:19] <julius> ^^
[10:19] <ocult> im rebel children its not sort effect in me
[10:19] <sfar> anyone got _a lot_ of time and can help me with my sound issues? Its working, but it sounds really crappy.. (sounds nice in windows tho)
[10:19] <ompaul> ocult, this is a support channel, keep it on topic or go to the chat room #ubuntu-offtopic for more conversation
[10:19] <julius> where are you? Sirrush
[10:20] <ocult> [ompaul] : i see. then i will talk about support.. by the way can u help me ?
[10:20] <Sirrush> I'm in the USA .. just giving the Ubuntu 6.06 beta 2 a run here
[10:20] <sfar> I dont know where to begin.. *help*
[10:20] <Sirrush> I frankly like it
[10:20] <ocult> ompaul, u are operator, maybe know Much of ubuntu linux
[10:20] <ocult> [ompaul] : :)
[10:20] <brainpod> i have ati radeon 800gt pci-e. I can't boot successfully into gui using any of the  ubunto versions
[10:20] <roryy> !tell sfar about sound
[10:20] <brainpod> can anyone help me?
[10:20] <sfar> roryy: no help there?
[10:20] <Mantice> How do I add repositrys
[10:20] <roryy> sfar: that might help you get started, at least
[10:20] <Mantice> deb http://anarxia.dyndns.org/debian/ ./
[10:21] <ocult> [ompaul] : please
[10:21] <roryy> sfar: ah, if that didn't help you i'm out of ideas, sorry
[10:21] <sfar> roryy: i've checked that out and its really nothing there that helps :(
[10:21] <julius> I'm in the korea. I enjoying the Ubuntu .
[10:21] <sfar> thanks anyway
[10:21] <blaq> Mantice: you can add repositories in either synaptic or adept
[10:21] <sfar> :p
[10:21] <intelikey> !tell brainpod about ati
[10:21] <Mantice> Dont worry it says in the forum post that they recomend you dont add it
[10:21] <Mantice> to ubuntu
[10:22] <yannick> i try installing kubuntu now with the "sever method" from the ubuntu cd maybe it helps
[10:23] <ocult> [ompaul] : no just me. but other people have the problem with sound.. when we listen music, and wanna open other thing using sound.. then it dont work good.. impossible execute 2 sounds at same time.. first need close the application using sound... do u know why it happen and how solv this problem ? :/
[10:23] <yannick> normally with alsa that shouldn't happen, occult
[10:23] <Hobbsee> !tell ocult about sound
[10:23] <ocult> i read forums and faq
[10:24] <centyx> Has anyone been able to get acpi suspend to ram working in ubuntu 5.1.0?
[10:24] <ocult> but nothing solv yet..
[10:24] <yannick> maybe your soundcard isn't supported by alsa and oss has been chosen
[10:24] <ocult> is about my sound ?
[10:24] <intelikey> ocult that is what esd is for
[10:24] <ompaul> ocult, read the note from ubotu that you have been sent
[10:24] <ocult> really i did
[10:24] <blaq> !tell blaq about raid
[10:24] <blaq> ...
[10:24] <ocult> no today.. but days ago
[10:24] <Mantice> Could some one help me with x-mame ?
[10:24] <ocult> :/
[10:25] <ocult> dont solv yet
[10:25] <whiter> !mplayer
[10:25] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:25] <Sirrush> brb
[10:27] <Mantice> How do I run programs I have install through Synaptic
[10:28] <user_> hi. is apt-get upgrade says I need two missing archives... what should i do about this?
[10:29] <ice_1963> :)
[10:29] <Mantice> How do I run programs I have install through Synaptic ??
[10:29] <user_> Mantice, depends what u installed
[10:29] <yannick> Just press alt + f2 and enter the name i guess
[10:30] <Mantice> I installed x-mame
[10:30] <eclair> Mantice: you'd see them on the menu more or less anyohw
[10:30] <ice_1963> what did you install ?
[10:30] <Mantice> x-mame
[10:30] <phish_> how do i extract .bin files?
[10:31] <yannick> The server method of installing kubuntu freezes too. I wonder why...
[10:31] <ice_1963> sudo x-mame
[10:31] <phish_> any idea?
[10:31] <user_> phish_, as far as i know, a bin file is usually a cd image... u can play it with vlc, or simply burn it to cd
[10:32] <yannick> debian runned on my machine very smoothly so i guess this is a bug or an error of ubuntu...
[10:32] <Mantice> every thing goes black when i type xmame
[10:32] <phish_> user_ well, im trying to set up a hlds server, they give me a .bin file i tried "sh filename.bin"
[10:34] <user_> phish_, hmmm maybe "file a.bin" will give u some clue as to what it is
[10:35] <phish_> 32bit LSB executable (so a binary)
[10:35] <yannick> I'll try installing the newest beta now. I hope that will do it...
[10:37] <sharpy> what program do i need to "make" a package?
[10:37] <sharpy> !mplayer
[10:37] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:37] <intelikey> sharpy build-essential
[10:37] <intelikey> !b-e
[10:37] <ubotu> from memory, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[10:37] <ice_1963> i did a search in synaptic for x-mame and came up whit 0
[10:38] <ice_1963> so
[10:38] <sharpy> intelikey, apt-getting it now.. :-)
[10:39] <whiter> wow
[10:39] <intelikey> xmame-common - Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator
[10:39] <whiter> xfce's file manager
[10:39] <whiter> SUCKS
[10:39] <whiter> *installing nautilus*
[10:39] <whiter> heh
[10:39] <intelikey> xmame-x - X binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator
[10:39] <Mantice> intelikey yeah thats it
[10:39] <Mantice> I got them
[10:40] <Mantice> How do I install a deb file
[10:40] <intelikey> dpkg -i file.deb
[10:41] <intelikey> as root
[10:42] <lrd> hi, I have a problem with my newly installed fedora core 5
[10:42] <whiter> okay i got nautilus re-installed, how can i make it start with my computer?
[10:42] <whiter> along with xfce
[10:42] <ice_1963> cd to that file
[10:42] <lrd> I meant not to speak here, but I don't know how to register my Nickname and to speak in the fedora channel.
[10:43] <lrd> when I use the "chkconfig" command, the bash says it cann't be found...
[10:43] <intelikey> whiter ~/.Xsession
[10:43] <lrd> why?
[10:43] <intelikey> whiter ~/.xinitrc  even
[10:43] <whiter> no such file
[10:44] <lrd> I have installed the system with no error, why I cann't find the "chkconfig" command? the same things happens with "groupadd"
[10:44] <intelikey> lrd  path error  or app not installed.   but to register   /msg nickserv register <passwd>
[10:44] <lrd> right, no such file, how can I solve it?
[10:45] <lrd> intelikey, it says my nick name is occupied
[10:45] <holy_cow> nifty
[10:45] <intelikey> lrd maybe because they are in /sbin and /sbin is not in the user's path ?
[10:45] <holy_cow> compiz-aiglx on dapper while  buggy still is kinda nifty
[10:45] <intelikey> hehhe change your nick.   /nick new_nick
[10:46] <lrd> intelikey, that means I can go to the /sbin dir to execute this command?
[10:46] <Mantice> I cant get mame to work on ubuntu
[10:46] <guest> ...
[10:47] <guest> I AM GAY
[10:47] <intelikey> lrd first do    echo $PATH     and see if /sbin is part of your path.
[10:47] <holy_cow> guest indeed
[10:47] <ice_1963> lol
[10:47] <yannick> great
[10:47] <holy_cow> >_<
[10:47] <lrd> okay, let me check.
[10:47] <holy_cow> *hmm*
[10:47] <guest> S
[10:47] <whiter> is there any way i can change my default file manager?
[10:48] <lrd> gash, when I run echo $path, it returns empty.
[10:48] <anstei> echo $PATH
[10:48] <anstei> remember case-sensitivity :)
[10:48] <Juzzy> evening people
[10:48] <intelikey> of course echo $path is empty...... hehhe   this is linux.
[10:49] <Juzzy> <- ubuntu noob, can someone please tell me which nvidia glx package to install?
[10:49] <lrd> what dows that mean intelikey?
[10:49] <holy_cow> !nvidia
[10:49] <ubotu> Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:49] <holy_cow> Juzzy, there is only one, follow those instructions
[10:49] <intelikey> morning person
[10:50] <Juzzy> Thank you
[10:50] <guest> 3q
[10:50] <anstei> lrd: it means, that "foo" != "FOO" != "Foo"
[10:50] <intelikey> lrd  sorry,  was laughing at you.   i know it wasn't very nice of me.       simply put   $PATH != $path
[10:50] <guest> i am taiwan boy
[10:50] <anstei> lrd: in windows this is the same, but not on linux
[10:51] <lrd> anstei, what do you mean?
[10:51] <holy_cow> guest, thats okay, ask your question
[10:51] <lrd> ooooh, I am so silly.
[10:51] <holy_cow> capitalization matters lrd
[10:51] <lrd> it says: /usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/home/liurd/bin
[10:51] <anstei> lrd: on windows, you can only have the file "foo". If you access "FOO", it will use "foo"
[10:52] <sharpy> is there an easy way to install mplayer?
[10:52] <anstei> lrd: on linux, you can have "Foo", "FOO", "foo" all at the same time
[10:52] <sharpy> with codecs, skin and everything else?
[10:52] <holy_cow> !restrictedformats
[10:52] <ubotu> I guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:52] <lrd> yes, I know that, just a little mistake, I am new on linux.
[10:52] <sharpy> sudo apt-get install mplayer?
[10:52] <holy_cow> sharpy, use those instructions
[10:52] <intelikey> sharpy apt-get it ?
[10:52] <sharpy> holy-cow from the forum?
[10:52] <lrd> is my PATH miss something?
[10:53] <holy_cow> sharpy, what from the forum?
[10:53] <holy_cow> just read the damned instructions and follow them
[10:53] <sharpy> holy_cow, what dammed instructions?
[10:53] <lrd> how can I fix it, if I want to make the "chkconfig" command work?
[10:53] <sharpy> !mplayer
[10:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:53] <holy_cow> !restrictedformats
[10:53] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:53] <holy_cow> which part of that don't you get?
[10:54] <intelikey> is /sbin: and /usr/sbin:  in your path lrd ?     if not i would add them.   but i think fedora defaults to not having system binarries in the users path...
[10:55] <lrd> they are definately not in my path...
[10:56] <lrd> intelikey, how can i add the /usr/sbin, /sbin to my $PATH var?
[10:56] <intelikey> lrd you can echo 'export PATH="$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin"' >> .bashrc
[10:57] <lrd> does it set the the path permantely, or just for current bash window?
[10:57] <intelikey> you will need to either source the file or start a new bash shell to activate that.
[10:57] <ice_1963> can i install nvidia  driver in ubuntu like debian useing module-assistant?
[10:57] <intelikey> permantely   yes
[10:57] <intelikey> :)
[10:57] <lrd> add this line to the .bashrc file, right?
[10:57] <lrd> my current user?
[10:58] <intelikey> run the command       echo 'export PATH="$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin"' >> .bashrc
[10:59] <possie> i'm using ubuntu breezy and i keep getting this message in my syslog: "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)" anyone have an idea how i'm able to find out what the keycombination is for 0xaa ?
[10:59] <intelikey> if you want a one time change, as opposed to a permantely chcage just          export PATH="$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin"
[10:59] <intelikey> what the redirrected echo command does is add that line to your .bashrc file
[11:00] <lrd> ic, thank you very much intelikey, last question, how can I enter chat channels which need to register a nick name, while my nick name is used by someone else?
[11:00] <holy_cow> you can't
[11:00] <holy_cow> you haveto register a nick that you control so no one can impersonate you
[11:01] <intelikey> lrd if nickserv says it's occupied that probably means that someone else has regestered it.     so you will have to change your nick and register
[11:01] <lrd> yes, how to change a nick name for a later register?
[11:02] <Hobbsee> which nick is this?
[11:02] <intelikey> lrd /nick new_nick
[11:02] <lrd> Okay, ic, thank you very much itelikey:)
[11:02] <intelikey> lrd then /msg nickserv register <passwd>
[11:03] <lrd> all right.
[11:03] <intelikey> anytime. lrd
[11:03] <lrd> good day, intelikey.
[11:03] <intelikey> lrd you can set most irc clients to use any nick,  not just your login name.
[11:05] <intelikey> so that when you open your irc client it will use the registered nick and identify with nickserv.     saves lots of trubble.
[11:06] <intelikey> you can even set the reported user name     as mine is set to root for example.
[11:07] <siimo> so appearently i was reading somewhere its better to use aptitude instead of apt-get
[11:07] <siimo> aptitude install package etc
[11:09] <intelikey> siimo if you look for it you can read anything.   i read just a little while ago that linux was a program......  ;/
[11:10] <BlueEagle> intelikey: I read that it's hot in africa.
[11:10] <shadow_> Hi, How do i play wmv properly ? as it is scrambled when i do play.. i only have win32-codecs installed. Is there some other codec i should need ?
[11:10] <BlueEagle> !restricted
[11:10] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:10] <intelikey> see....
[11:10] <holy_cow> BlueDevil, its true, its also very sunny
[11:11] <BlueEagle> shadow_: did you get that?
[11:11] <siimo> it says aptitude is better coz it remembers what packages YOU as the user installed and what packages were installed as deps by APT  so when you remove a package any unneeded stuff will be hosed as well
[11:11] <intelikey> siimo deborphan   and  debfoster     hehhe
[11:12] <siimo> ive used deborphan and it does not work very well
[11:12] <intelikey> apt can do that as well with those apps
[11:12] <intelikey> does for me.....
[11:13] <siimo> i just tried it - apt-get install beep-media-player  (it fetched id3tag library and when i removed beep and then ran deborphan that library was not removed
[11:13] <shadow_> BlueDevil: I guess its not playable because of drm..
[11:14] <intelikey> hmmm  have you tested aptitude also ?
[11:14] <intelikey> i got to go....
[11:15] <jbeckers> hi
[11:15] <jbeckers> I'm building some checkinstall debs, but they're all trying to install gconf files in the same location
[11:15] <yannick> hi
[11:15] <jbeckers> eg: `/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-bg.xml'
[11:15] <jbeckers> so my question is: what's the policy on these files? include/exclude from packages?
[11:16] <jbeckers> cause dpkg is not too happy about the smae files being in different packages
[11:16] <yannick> i'd put them in a separate .deb
[11:17] <yannick> which is required by the others
[11:17] <jbeckers> hmm, that's a bit hacky, but it's a possibility
[11:18] <GTroy> would a ecs mobo be bad with dapper?
[11:18] <MistaED> ecs mobos are bad, period.
[11:19] <GTroy> how bout asus
[11:19] <GTroy> ?
[11:20] <MistaED> i've played around with ecs/pcchips boards and some don't boot linux properly or some poorly but after a bios update they're alright
[11:20] <GTroy> I'lll skip it then
[11:20] <MistaED> i use an asus, but the real thing you should look up is the chipset
[11:20] <GTroy> what should I look for?
[11:21] <MistaED> afaik, most chipsets work like via, intel, amd, nvidia
[11:21] <MistaED> sis will too but they're dodgy :)
[11:21] <MistaED> like, dodgy even in windows as well
[11:22] <GTroy> ok cool thanks!!
[11:22] <zcat[1] > moo!
[11:22] <MistaED> gtroy: np
[11:22] <Kr0ntab> word...
[11:22] <Kr0ntab> :)
[11:24] <GTroy> I wondering how a dual core amd 4200 would do
[11:30] <lsuactiafner> last night someone asked if dapper allows a person to choose between lilo or grub and where to install it? does it?
[11:32] <GTroy> why would you want to use grub?
[11:33] <zcat[1] > GTroy: huh? grub is the default..
[11:33] <possie> is there a modules.conf in ubuntu in order to configure devices ?
[11:33] <GTroy> sorry I was thinking lilo
[11:33] <GTroy> it's late for me
[11:33] <zcat[1] > lsuactiafner: probably in the expert install.. the normal install makes pretty smart choices though..
[11:36] <phish_> how do i install gFTP?
[11:37] <zcat[1] > phish_: open a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install gftp'
[11:38] <phish_> thanks :D
[11:40] <UnZuChT> i'm using dapper
[11:40] <UnZuChT> and since some days dri does not work anymore with the fglrx drivers
[11:41] <UnZuChT> i'm still using 2.6.15-19-686 cos ~-21 has a problem with my sound chip
[11:42] <No1Viking> Is there a command that I can use to add text at the bottom of a text file without using edit?
[11:43] <roryy> No1Viking: from the command line? something like 'echo my line here >> thefiletoaddto.txt'
[11:43] <phish_> what program can play .wmv files?
[11:43] <phish_> i downloaded vnc but it doesn't show the video
[11:43] <yannick> vlc and molayer does, phish_
[11:44] <roryy> phish_: you probably need the 'w32codecs'
[11:44] <UnZuChT> so does anybody has an idea
[11:44] <No1Viking> roryy, yes
[11:44] <Guardian> what's autogen.sh ???
[11:44] <phish_> roryy "sudo apt-get install w32codecs"? correct?
[11:44] <UnZuChT> also the ati driver installer does not work
[11:44] <UnZuChT> 
[11:44] <UnZuChT> Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x700' directory
[11:44] <juzzy> I
[11:44] <UnZuChT> i guess that's probably because of the x update in dapper
[11:44] <MenZa> Guardian: launchable file.
[11:45] <roryy> phish_: no, they're not hosted by ubuntu/canonical
[11:45] <juzzy> I'm running 64bit ubuntu 6.06, how do i get into 32bit?
[11:45] <MenZa> ./autogen.sh
[11:45] <MenZa> :)
[11:45] <roryy> !tell phish_ about w32codecs
[11:45] <MenZa> juzzy: #ubuntu+1 -- Dapper channel.
[11:45] <No1Viking> roryy, but will it add text at the bottom, and not destroy text that are there before?
[11:45] <roryy> phish_: i *think* easyubuntu might install them for you; it's probably worth a try (much easier)
[11:45] <Guardian> MenZa: i can't find any doc on its purpose
[11:45] <Jimmey__> I've just installed JRE, but it's made the files on my Desktop - Where do I put them?
[11:45] <MenZa> Guardian: I think it's an install script, but I'm not sure.
[11:45] <MenZa> I don't recall properly
[11:45] <roryy> No1Viking: yip. Note the '>>' -- two > symbols
[11:46] <roryy> No1Viking: try it like this: echo hello > foo.txt; echo goodbye >> foo.txt; cat foo.txt
[11:46] <No1Viking> roryy, thanks!!
[11:46] <Guardian> MenZa: ok
[11:46] <holy_cow> !restrictedformats
[11:46] <ubotu> well, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:46] <MenZa> Guardian: where did you find it?
[11:47] <wk2001> hi, i have a problem with ati driver under dapper.. is someone here who can help?
[11:47] <biberao> hi needed one advise
[11:47] <Jimmey__> !dapper
[11:47] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[11:47] <biberao> is still better use freezy or dapper?
[11:47] <Guardian> MenZa: well in several applications, they just say to run autogen.sh before running make
[11:47] <MenZa> Oh, right
[11:48] <MenZa> I believe it configures the install for your computer
[11:48] <wk2001> ok
[11:48] <biberao> advise pls?
[11:49] <roryy> biberao: breezy is the current stable release
[11:49] <biberao> roryy yes whats your advise?
[11:49] <MenZa> biberao: What do you need help with?
[11:49] <roryy> biberao: i'm sticking with breezy until june
[11:50] <biberao> MenZa advises :p
[11:50] <biberao> but i dont have breezy no more just dapper
[11:50] <biberao> :\
[11:50] <MenZa> ...on what?
[11:50] <biberao> MenZa dapper flight 6 vs breezy the stable
[11:50] <MenZa> Ah, right
[11:50] <MenZa> Well, Dapper isn't flight 6 anymore
[11:50] <MenZa> It's BETA 2
[11:50] <MenZa> I use it
[11:50] <MenZa> Experienced very few bugs
[11:51] <karim> hi
[11:51] <Jimmey__> Hey
[11:51] <Guardian> Menza: i need to setup an ubuntu distrib but i'm not in a hurry. should i wait for 1st of june ? i'm afraid upgrading brezzy badger to dapper drake will leave garbage somewhere in the various directories
[11:51] <karim> is it possible to protect file from writing for root ?
[11:51] <Guardian> MenZa: or upgrading from beta to release
[11:51] <biberao> its beta 2 now?
[11:51] <Jimmey__> !dapper
[11:51] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[11:52] <MenZa> Guardian: I did a clean install, and I think it's the best -- and cleanest -- way to do it.
[11:52] <Guardian> MenZa: yeah i feel the same
[11:52] <karim> in fact I use two xorg.conf files, one for TV, on for monitor, and I want to symlink on them, to xorg.conf, when I need one, but I don't want tools to automodify this files. is there a way to do that ?
[11:52] <MenZa> Guardian: but it's definitely worth it.
[11:52] <Guardian> MenZa: maybe upgrading from beta to release won't left too much garbage
[11:52] <MenZa> Nah, I think it's good
[11:52] <Guardian> -left+leave
[11:52] <biberao> can xgl work better now?
[11:53] <karim> 
[11:53] <biberao> ?
[11:53] <karim> argh
[11:53] <doctormo> my graphics configuration freezes my computer (damn nvidia) how can I get it into safe mode, bash?
[11:53] <karim> so can I protect a file from root reading to it ?
[11:53] <doctormo> karim: you can't
[11:55] <Jimmey__> doctormo, CTRL + ALT + F1
[11:56] <biberao> should i install breezy then?
[11:56] <doctormo> Jimmey__: not that kind of freeze, this kills it, I've put it into safe mode from grub, that seems to work
[11:57] <Rorviker> I got some problems with raid, could someone check this error out an give me som help? --->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13056
[11:57] <Rorviker> its 6 disks in a raid 5 array
[11:57] <karim> doctormo: why root doesn't need to explicitely change the right to write, like users must do when they own a write protected file ?
[11:59] <[nige] > i was trying to play a dvd in my dvd drive and I get cant open /dev/dvd , i am using gmplayer btw
[11:59] <[nige] > how do i get it to find my dvd drive
[11:59] <possie> where in ubuntu can i specify the order in which kernel modules get loaded?
[12:00] <[nige] > i looked in fstab and i see the follwoing: /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:01] <doctormo> karim: your need to understand about root
[12:01] <MenZa> !rootsudo
[12:01] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:02] <StraFE> got a ?
[12:02] <StraFE> I'm kinda new to this
[12:02] <r0xoR> do i need gcc-3.4 to compile a kernel?
[12:02] <StraFE> but i love the CLI
[12:02] <r0xoR> or can i do it with gcc-4.0 ?
[12:03] <yannick> can anyone help me? the installer freezes while configuring a package and that ALL THE TIME i'm getting crazy
[12:03] <roryy> r0xoR: on breezy one needs gcc-3.4 to compile kernel modules for the supplied kernel.  Not sure about an actual kernel recompile, but I suspect so.
[12:03] <StraFE> how can I search for multiple rar files within a directory of directories and extract them to a specific directory?
[12:03] <r0xoR> ok
[12:03] <StraFE> not the ol' unrar e /blah/t.rar /blah/blah.avi
[12:04] <r0xoR> is it safe to have gcc-3.4 installed along with gcc-4.0 ?
[12:04] <roryy> StraFE: you can use find ('man find')
[12:04] <roryy> r0xoR: yip, it's fine
[12:05] <phish_> how do i get the microsoft fonts?
[12:05] <StraFE> but like find /blah/bunchofRARfilesinsepartedirectories/ -name "*.rar" | unrar e /thedirectoryiwantallRARsin
[12:05] <roryy> r0xoR: do something like 'export CC=gcc-3.4' before doing any kernel work. I think you can use update-alternatives to change the default compilar
[12:06] <roryy> StraFE: i'd use find's -exec option
[12:06] <StraFE> hmm
[12:06] <StraFE> can u give me an example?
[12:06] <StraFE> i'm reading the man for it but am confused
[12:06] <StraFE> do i have the right idea?
[12:06] <roryy> StraFE: something like this:    find /thedir -name "*.rar" -exec unrar e '{} ';'
[12:07] <roryy> StraFE: you'll probably need unrar options to make the extraction be done in the right place
[12:07] <roryy> StraFE: oops
[12:07] <mbuf> does ubuntu dapper beta have xgl? if yes how do i install it ?
[12:07] <miter> hello, i installed a theme by drag&dropping it to the theme windows: it says installed correctly (also, it's in the ~/.themes) but it does not appear on the theme selection windows....
[12:07] <StraFE> ..
[12:07] <roryy> StraFE:    find /thedir -name "*.rar" -exec unrar e '{}' ';'        (extra ' after {})
[12:08] <StraFE> hmm
[12:08] <roryy> !tell mbuf about xgl
[12:08] <StraFE> interesting
[12:08] <Rorviker> I got some problems with raid, HW raid, a raid5 array, when running dmraid -ay -v it says raid 8 aint supported... error ---->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13056
[12:09] <miter> !tell me about xgl
[12:09] <deefzi> i try to start xmms/mplayer or any other program that requires sound (except opera, which plays sound ok for flashes) and i get segmentation fault. what's that?
[12:09] <StraFE> how do i declare the directory that i want all the rar files unrared to?
[12:10] <miter> !tell miter about xgl
[12:10] <StraFE> after the unrar e '{}' ';' /directoryofunrared
[12:10] <StraFE> ??
[12:10] <roryy> StraFE: the ';' indicates the end of the command
[12:10] <StraFE> ok
[12:10] <miter> so ay one know can explain/help me why i can't install this theme?
[12:10] <roryy> StraFE: and the '{}' become the matched filename
[12:11] <StraFE> matched filename?
[12:11] <roryy> the .rar it found
[12:11] <StraFE> ah
[12:11] <StraFE> ok
[12:11] <StraFE> very cool
[12:11] <roryy> rather, each of them one at a time
[12:11] <biberao> is it possible to play Steam CS on linu?
[12:11] <biberao> is it possible to play Steam CS on linux?
[12:11] <roryy> StraFE: yeah, find is one of the coolest linux/unix tools
[12:11] <StraFE> i learned how to pipe
[12:12] <StraFE> but throwin little scripts for a command to use blows my mind
[12:12] <Hexidigital> what does xgl do?
[12:12] <StraFE> i'm totally new to programming
[12:12] <karim> is there a way to avoir the kernel throw up is stuff on all tty's consoles ?
[12:12] <StraFE> i don't know anything bout it
[12:12] <roryy> Hexidigital: extreme desktop prettiness. '/msg ubotu xgl' for a link to a video
[12:12] <StraFE> but i've got a craving to learn ;-)
[12:12] <karim> is there a way to prevent the kernel from throwing up is stuff on all tty's consoles ?
[12:12] <Hexidigital> cool... thanks roryy
[12:13] <StraFE> find /thedir -name "*.rar" -exec unrar e '{}' /directoryofunrared ';'
[12:13] <StraFE> ??
[12:14] <roryy> StraFE: http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/ is a starting point (this is getting a little off-topic)
[12:14] <StraFE> k
[12:14] <StraFE> my apologies
[12:14] <StraFE> thanks for the insight
[12:14] <roryy> StraFE: i don't know unrar's arguments; looks ok
[12:14] <roryy> StraFE: i just meant the general `learning to program' stuff ;)
[12:15] <StraFE> oh
[12:15] <StraFE> lol
[12:15] <StraFE> i'll mess w/ this level of coding
[12:15] <StraFE> if you want to call it that
[12:15] <StraFE> lol
[12:15] <StraFE> just the mental association
[12:15] <Rorviker> Doesnt dmraid support raid5 ?
[12:18] <stevietool> I've deleted a file from my floppy and when I want to copy another on it , it says there is no space left on my floppy?
[12:19] <zcat[1] > stevietool: empty trash..
[12:19] <ocult> ^^
[12:20] <brainpod> when ever i try to install ubuntu, upon first reboot i get the error message "no screens found". how can i boot into a gui?
[12:20] <sml> what file do I edit to change my start-up applications?
[12:20] <brainpod> i am using a x800gt radeon
[12:21] <sml> brainpod ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:21] <darkvador> hi everybody
[12:21] <roryy> sml: you can try System -> Preferences -> Sessions  -- is that what you want?
[12:21] <StraFE> yay!
[12:21] <miter> how can i force KILL ALL running processes with a command (if a crash occurs for example)?
[12:21] <acidSkull> hi
[12:21] <solarsparc> how do I save chats in XCHat?
[12:21] <rob> umm, halt?
[12:21] <sml> roryy .. thanks but I need to know which file it uses
[12:21] <StraFE> it's workin' in the background
[12:21] <ubuntu> hi everyone
[12:21] <brainpod> do i need internet accsess to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command?
[12:21] <StraFE> this will take a long long time
[12:22] <StraFE> but it's on autopilot
[12:22] <StraFE> thanks for the roadmap roryy
[12:22] <darkvador> is there read and write support for mac file system on ubuntu ?
[12:22] <sml> brainpod .. also you should install the fglrx driver. Check the wiki. It is easy to install.
[12:22] <StraFE> yeah
[12:22] <Toma-> darkvador: yes
[12:22] <roryy> StraFE: cool. good luck
[12:22] <brainpod> it's hard for me to install anything because i can't get into a gui
[12:22] <StraFE> thanks!
[12:22] <sml> miter .. kill all processes ??? why not just hold down the power button. It will do the same thing !!
[12:23] <brainpod> i find it hard to work at a command line
[12:23] <miter> of course but without restarting
[12:23] <stevietool> zcat: Is there a way that my files on a floppy for ex. will be deleted without moving to .Trash?
[12:23] <sml> brainpod ... you use a few basic commands to install anyway ... you want me to give you the link?
[12:23] <zcat[1] > 'sudo killall -9 0' should do it..
[12:23] <miter> i mean KILL all the running processes which began to run with the start of gnome/Xserver
[12:23] <darkvador> strange, for some reason my mac hd keeps getting mounted as read only
[12:23] <tsw> miter: sudo kill -9 <pid>
[12:23] <brainpod> yes, please
[12:24] <zcat[1] > miter: ctrl-alt-backspace perhaps?
[12:24] <miter> didn't work for me last time
[12:24] <miter> the server didn't restart
[12:24] <roryy> sml: looks like it uses gconf
[12:24] <roryy> sml: /apps/gnome-settings/gnome-session-properties
[12:24] <sml> brainpod ... pretty easy buddy .... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:24] <miter> so "'sudo killall -9 0" should kill every process on gnome, am i able to do anything after this?
[12:25] <IOWAHC> Hy @ all
[12:25] <zcat[1] > if things are getting that out of control, you should concentrate on finding out why and perhaps ulimit the buggy process..
[12:25] <sml> roryyy ... thanks .. let me check it out
[12:25] <miter> zcat[1] : 'sudo killall -9 0" should kill every process on gnome, am i able to do anything after this? Also, any way to know more about "ulimit"? what is it exactly?
[12:25] <zcat[1] > stevietool: rm files from the console. If you use the GUI they end up ina hidden .Trash/ folder on the same disk..
[12:26] <zcat[1] > err by console I mean terminal window..
[12:26] <roryy> sml: hrm, scrap that, evidently i was wrong
[12:26] <leeyee> Hi guys
[12:27] <zcat[1] > miter: ulimit lets you restrict resources that a process can use.. if it tries to take too much cpu or disk or ram it gets killed automatically.
[12:27] <miter> cool
[12:27] <sml> brainpod ... only 4 or 5 commands that you copy from the webpage ... cant get much easier than that !
[12:27] <darkvador> could someone help me out with the mount command in pm please ?
[12:27] <leeyee> it's odd that i can't boot into the GUI after the compilation of kernel 2.6.16
[12:27] <leeyee> although i didn't do nothing with those options
[12:27] <miter> zcat[1] : if i do "sudo killall -9 0" , am i able to do anything after this?
[12:28] <sml> what file do I edit to change my daemons ?
[12:28] <biberao> hey
[12:28] <biberao> how do i divide my desktop
[12:29] <biberao> getting one raining and the other one working the same
[12:29] <whaley> miter, that would be a fun experiment to try :)
[12:29] <sml> bib ... raining ?? what the water damage the screen?
[12:29] <brainpod> sml, do i need internet access to succsessfully do these commands?
[12:29] <whaley> dunno if i'm quite willing to do that on machine here though hehehe
[12:29] <rob> hi, what is the fastest Australian-based Debian mirror I can use?
[12:29] <sml> brainpod ... yes .. it uses apt-get to grab some files
[12:29] <miter> whaley: of course, but before trying it (i'll of course :-)) i want to know if i must restart the pc after
[12:30] <sml> rob ... i would suggest mirror.pacific.net.au or planetmirror
[12:30] <rob> eek, wrong chan :(
[12:30] <brainpod> i have no internet. i just installed ubunto and i just have a black and white login screen
[12:30] <biberao> sml i dont know
[12:30] <rob> sorry guys!
[12:31] <rob> (thanks sml)
[12:31] <tsw> miter: well check out what process has pid 0 and you might just know what you can do after you kill it :)
[12:31] <biberao> how does it work?
[12:31] <sml> brainpod ... what kind of internet connection do you have?
[12:31] <darkvador> how do I mount an hfs+ partition with read and write permissions please ? ( /dev/sdd1 )
[12:31] <brainpod> ppoe dsl
[12:32] <miter> tsw: do you know any way to kill all the process which started with gnome/xserver?
[12:32] <mirak> darkvador: i was about to ask the same thing
[12:32] <sml> rob  ... sorry buddy .. i find this one awesome .. not sure if it has deb though
[12:32] <mirak> darkshadow: ubuntu kernels don't enable writing on hfsplus it seems
[12:32] <miter> tsw: like ctrl+alt+bkspc but to force kill
[12:32] <sml> rob   .. http://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/ubuntu-releases/5.10/
[12:32] <mirak> darkshadow: that's something needed
[12:33] <mirak> darkvador: cat /proc/filesystems | grep hfs
[12:33] <xixaq> can someone please do me a favour and check the ISO of which I have burned the installation CD? I just can't install it. the installation halts.
[12:33] <biberao> sml how does it work?
[12:33] <zcat[1] > also i typod; sudo kill -9 0 will kill every process on the box. Including init. Which is kinda like a really bad way of doing 'halt'
[12:33] <rob> cool
[12:33] <no0tic> does a cpu-z open source alternative exist?
[12:33] <userone> I have a problem with Evolution Mail. It was working perfectly until just now, when it displayed the error message: 'Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync'. Anyone know what this is?
[12:34] <Tomcat_> userone: I had this once, but no idea why...
[12:34] <Tomcat_> userone: When it happened, it duplicated a mail I was just reading... nothing big.
[12:34] <sml> brainpod ..... may be easier to just start with this .... sudo dpkg-reconfgure xserver-xorg
[12:36] <userone> Tomcat_: Thanks...let me try a restart (not something I'm used to with Linux/Ubuntu!!)
[12:36] <Hexidigital> well.... i tried the xgl (nested mode) and it twisted me all up... i wasn't able to do anything but access the application menu (just like the wiki entry said)
[12:36] <sml> brainpod .... that command asks you a list of questions that creates a new xorg.conf file.
[12:36] <anilkumar> hi
[12:36] <mirak> Hexidigital: why would it work nested ???
[12:36] <xixaq> is this the right MD5 for Ubuntu 5.10 Installation CD? (ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso) 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d61
[12:36] <Hexidigital> mirak, i figured, if xgl was so "advanced" it should :)
[12:36] <brainpod> ok, i'll try that. thanks
[12:37] <anilkumar> I have a doubt regarding scheduling
[12:37] <spiekey> hello!
[12:37] <spiekey> are there ubuntu backports for mysqld?
[12:37] <spiekey> i need mysqld 4.1.x
[12:37] <sml> what file controls the start-up apps and daemons?
[12:37] <darkvador> so, what does the "cat /proc/filesystems | grep hfs" command do ?
[12:38] <Hexidigital> sml, gnome desktop manager?
[12:39] <anilkumar> i want to schedule amarok everymorning at 5 am
[12:39] <chip42> darkvador: the output from cat is being fed into the input for grep.. grep is searching it for hfs
[12:39] <anilkumar> how can i do it
[12:39] <chip42> darkvador: the | between the two commands is a pipe. man bash
[12:39] <userone> Tomcat_: Thanks for the advice....The restart fixed things. I think it may be something with the junk mail I received. Its just been sent again with 3 variations of  email addresse...perhaps thats what the mismatch is?
[12:40] <sml> Hexidigital ... na .. i am using xubuntu .. I just need to do a simple tweak to the file
[12:40] <styler> can you give me the adresse of the french server please ?
[12:40] <Hexidigital> Settings -> Preferences -> Session -- Startup tab for applications... and Settings -> Administration -> Services for Daemons
[12:40] <Hexidigital> sml maybe it will be the same  ^^ above post
[12:40] <leppen> sudo wouldn't tab complete commands, just directories. WHY?
[12:40] <miter> how to know the current gnome version using command line? how for kde?
[12:40] <atle> I have a canon printer wich I want to install, how do I install it?
[12:41] <Tomcat_> userone: Well, no idea really. As long as no mail gets lost I don't really care. :)
[12:41] <styler> can you give me the adresse of the french server please ?
[12:41] <styler> can you give me the adresse of the french server please ?
[12:41] <anilkumar> atle :u can just go to printing
[12:41] <userone> Tomcat_: Fair point!! :-)
[12:41] <Hexidigital> !tell styler about patience
[12:41] <darkvador> thanks chip42
[12:41] <atle> anilkumar, where do I find printing?
[12:42] <anilkumar> from system ->adminstration
[12:42] <miter> how to know the current gnome version using command line? how for kde?
[12:42] <atle> anilkumar, thanks, found it now :-)
[12:42] <anilkumar> atle: there when u clik it a tab opens
[12:43] <anilkumar> atle:  printer->ad printer
[12:43] <oal> i've got a very specific problem: i need to install gcc-avr 4.0.2.i've found it in the debian unstable tree (it has a very limited number of deps). I added this repos to my sources.list and added APT::Default-Release "breezy"; to apt.conf but it still wants to update packages, found in debian-unstable.
[12:43] <atle> anilkumar, now I just have to find drivers for my printer
[12:43] <drop> i need help modifying my sources list
[12:43] <anilkumar> atle:  now choose the type of printer
[12:43] <anilkumar> yes
[12:44] <chip42> miter: hrm. one way would be to dpkg -l kde* and then look at the version numbers on the packages
[12:44] <intelikey> !autologin-ssh
[12:44] <ubotu> autologin-ssh is probably a script for that is posted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d13057
[12:44] <anilkumar> atle: i think u got it
[12:44] <anonymou1> how do i recover personal files/that have been deleted
[12:44] <kpaolo> hi
[12:45] <kpaolo> is here someone who use xchat-gnome???
[12:45] <Hexidigital> kpaolo, i do on occasion
[12:45] <akonkwa> kpaolo,  yes
[12:45] <miter> kpaolo: i do
[12:45] <kpaolo> I need a file...
[12:45] <MetaMorfoziS> kpaolo: #xchat ?
[12:45] <drop> can anyone help me with my sources list
[12:45] <kpaolo> no, just xchat-gnome
[12:45] <kpaolo> I need a plugin
[12:45] <anonymou1> is there anyone in here who can recommend a good way to recover files that have been deleted using the ubuntu partitiotner?
[12:45] <anilkumar> is here someone who schedule the tasks
[12:45] <miter> what's the best irc program for linux by the way?
[12:45] <kpaolo> it's in /usr/lib/xchat-gnome/plugin
[12:45] <leppen> sudo wouldn't tab complete commands, just directories. WHY?
[12:45] <sml> Hexi ... i think I have got it .... it is /etc/init.d/***
[12:46] <MetaMorfoziS> !cron
[12:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. There is a HOW-TO located at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[12:46] <kpaolo> it's about the systray
[12:46] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ anilkumar
[12:46] <kpaolo> can anyone send me it by dcc??
[12:46] <MetaMorfoziS> !tell anilkumar about cron
[12:46] <anonymou1> is there anyone in here who can recommend a good way to recover files that have been deleted using the ubuntu partitiotner?
[12:46] <Hexidigital> sml.... you got it... (now the light in my head goes on)
[12:46] <Hexidigital> i guess i need sleep
[12:46] <userone> bye!
[12:47] <kpaolo> guys??
[12:47] <sml> drop .... type ...... sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:47] <Hexidigital> kpaolo, lemme see if i have it
[12:47] <kpaolo> tnx Hexidigital
[12:47] <bender_> HI
[12:47] <drop> sources list help
[12:49] <Hexidigital> kpaolo, it won't let me send the folder
[12:49] <miter> what's the best irc program for linux ?
[12:49] <Larsson-Sweden> I want to report a bug, but my connection behaves strangely if im running it from gdb. And if i want to try the other way, no coredump is created. Why is no coredump created?
[12:49] <kpaolo> Hexidigital: I think it's called "position.so"
[12:49] <Hexidigital> kpaolo, i just sent them all
[12:49] <kpaolo> I see
[12:49] <kpaolo> tnx howevere!!!
[12:49] <izmaelis> miter, CLI or X?
[12:49] <Hexidigital> kpaolo, np
[12:49] <kpaolo> you're very kind!
[12:49] <Hexidigital> miter, i like xchat and xchat-gnome
[12:49] <drop> HELLO SOMEONE
[12:50] <kpaolo> see you!!
[12:50] <Hexidigital> miter, irssi for command line
[12:50] <Hexidigital> kpaolo, take care
[12:50] <miter> cli
[12:50] <drop> im dumb i dont know how to update my sources list
[12:50] <bender_> any one know anythinga bout PAM
[12:50] <ompaul> !easysources
[12:50] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[12:50] <ompaul> !easysource
[12:50] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:50] <dvlgod> ok i have a silly question.  i would like to purchase a domain so i can use a vanity host for my chatting on other networks.  i would be hosting it on my dedicated linux box and using a new linksys router to network to my windows box (since i can't do vice versa) or perhaps even use it on this machine on all networks other than freenode.  is this within the realm of possibility ?  not for commercial use.  nothing obsence.  just for fun.
[12:50] <dvlgod>  i realize my ports will still be vulnerable.
[12:51] <izmaelis> miter, I use irssi sometimes and it's not bad
[12:51] <ompaul> drop, thats not dumb its just not knowing, read that http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:51] <drop> how do i update the list after i go to that page
[12:51] <miter> and for MSN, what's the best one? (it sould have image thumbnails (preview), when giving an image to a friend) ?
[12:51] <ompaul> drop, sudo apt-get update
[12:51] <Hexidigital> miter, GAIM supports msn
[12:52] <tsw> miter: no idea if you got some answer already, but try something like sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop. It might work
[12:52] <miter> i know but not very good
[12:52] <countserp> is there anyone in here who can recommend a good way to recover files that have been deleted using the ubuntu partitiotner?
[12:52] <dvlgod> how do i restart my network from a terminal ?
[12:52] <bender_> dvlgod, restart?
[12:52] <dvlgod> oh
[12:52] <dvlgod> heh
[12:52] <dvlgod> thank you
[12:52] <leppen> can someone help me please. when 'sudo', commands would not tab-complete. why?
[12:52] <bender_> no.
[12:52] <vauteh> hi. i don't know if thats a special problem with the firefox version in ubuntu, but i couldn't find anything about my problem elsewhere, so i try it here. my problem ist, that the "download action" dialog is just empty even i have associatetd pdfs with evince or kpdf. in the mimeTypes.rdf there is the viewer and it works, but i can't change it, only through deleting the mimeTypes.rdf in the .mozilla and re-associate .pdf with the viewer i want. any 
[12:52] <bender_> what do you mean by restart
[12:53] <sml> brainpod .. how did you go?
[12:53] <Rorviker> dvlgod: shutdown -r now ?
[12:53] <dvlgod> well yes lets say my network is down and i want to cycle it to turn on again lets say with new network configurations
[12:53] <IOWAHC> Am I able to control which IRQ a device is using?
[12:53] <drop> ompaul i went to the page i got the list what do i do with it now
[12:53] <dvlgod> Rorviker ?
[12:53] <ompaul> dvlgod, the cheap dirty way is - sudo dhcpcleint now
[12:53] <bender_> dvlgod, dhclient eth0
[12:53] <atle> does anyone know if it's possible to share a printer on a network when using ubuntu?
[12:53] <ompaul> drop, as i said drop, sudo apt-get update
[12:53] <dvlgod> thank you bender_
[12:53] <IOWAHC> is it possible to control it with the BIOS?
[12:53] <bender_> yep
[12:54] <ompaul> dvlgod, (sorry typo ) the cheap dirty way is - sudo dhclient now
[12:54] <dvlgod> bender_ says different tho
[12:54] <bender_> iether way.
[12:54] <dvlgod> ok
[12:54] <dvlgod> thank you
[12:54] <FearMoth> can I extract the kubuntu iso to a hard drive, and then install lilo or grub to that disk's boot sector and install from that?
[12:54] <Rorviker> My ubuntu server needs to get internet via a windows machine, they are direct connected with a crossed tp. Windows have enabled internet sharing and I was told that the linux machine should automatically detect the internet and settings but it dont. What can I do to get the internet working ?
[12:54] <dvlgod> thanks :)
[12:55] <drop> ompaul i did that
[12:55] <ompaul> FearMoth, why not just install with an install CD?
[12:55] <bender_> lol ya
[12:55] <ompaul> drop, now check Sysetm Administration Synaptic
[12:55] <chip42> dvlgod: you can use ifconfig and specify a long command with all the options.. or you could just put alternate configurations in your interfaces file and uncomment them as you need them
[12:55] <IOWAHC> Rorviker The IP Adress of the WIN machine is the Gateway for your linux
[12:55] <IOWAHC> and it should work
[12:56] <dvlgod> dhclient now will do just fine since i can adjust the network config from xorg
[12:56] <bender_> what
[12:56] <phish_> how do i use .rpm files?
[12:56] <drop> ompaul what should do there
[12:56] <dvlgod> uhm, i'm guessing i could probably restart it that way as well
[12:56] <bender_> phish_,  rpm -Uvh file.rpm
[12:56] <ompaul> IOWAHC, yo ushould
[12:57] <bender_> phish, but if your on ubuntu you need to turn it intoa  .deb via  alient
[12:57] <ompaul> drop, you should see lots of new applications
[12:57] <countserp> is there anyone in here who can recommend a good way to recover files that have been deleted using the ubuntu partitiotner?
[12:57] <IOWAHC> ompaul WHAT?
[12:57] <phish_> how do i use alient
[12:57] <phish_> or where do i get it?
[12:57] <chip42> dvlgod: how is that? ifdown interface ... ifup interface ... then /etc/network/interfaces defines them... have a couple definitions and only uncomment the one you want to use
[12:57] <drop> i just type the "sudo apt-get update" nothing else needs to be done
[12:57] <bender_> phish_, alien  file.rpm newfile.deb
[12:57] <Rorviker> IOWAHC: Hmm, how can I adjust that ? with ifconfig ?
[12:58] <dvlgod> i only need one :)
[12:58] <sphinx> whats a software like limewire on ubuntulu
[12:58] <sphinx> whats a software like limewire on ubuntu
[12:58] <ompaul> IOWAHC, you should be able to use the bios to do such tricks, it is well beyond the scope of this channel as there are many different bios implementations
[12:58] <IOWAHC> Rorviker .---- > Query
[12:58] <ompaul> !limewire
[12:58] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[12:58] <drop> most of the stuff i try to download says it wont work
[12:58] <IOWAHC> oh ok ompaul ... thnx
[12:58] <ompaul> drop, have you replaced your existing /etc/apt/sources.list with the file you got from that web page?
[12:59] <drop> no how do i do that
[12:59] <phish_> bender: "alien not found"
[12:59] <drop> terminal and nano
[12:59] <bender_> phish_, apt-get install alien
[12:59] <drop> thats what ive tryed to do
[12:59] <leppen> sorry for bothering you all, found it myself. put this at the end of your ~/.bashrc
[12:59] <leppen> :   if  [ -f /etc/bash_completion ] ; then
[12:59] <leppen> . /etc/bash_completion
[12:59] <leppen>  fi
[01:00] <bender_> umm what
[01:00] <IOWAHC> damn it.... i cant change the IRQ in Bios.... any suggestions?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> please remember while using alien it can break and is not recommended to be used
[01:00] <bender_> why cant you
[01:00] <ompaul> IOWAHC, give out to acer
[01:00] <IOWAHC> lol
[01:00] <bender_> gnomefreak, are you kidding.
[01:00] <bender_> gnomefreak, very rarely does it break.. its a very simple process
[01:00] <gnomefreak> bender_: no i dont kid
[01:01] <ompaul> IOWAHC, how dare they sell you hardware that is not able to operate with any software you choose to run on it
[01:01] <gnomefreak> bender_: simple isnt always the best and most apps there are debs for
[01:01] <FearMoth> can I extract the kubuntu iso to a hard drive, and then install lilo or grub to that disk's boot sector and install from that?
[01:01] <drop> what do i use to load the new sources. nano or something else
[01:01] <bender_> simple as in: its only converting dir locations and file location.. its simple
[01:01] <IOWAHC> well..... your right.... but 1600 was enogh money to deal with the problem
[01:02] <drop> im sorry
[01:02] <bender_> drop what are you tryning to do
[01:02] <chip42> bender_: simple as in unmanaged by the package manager and breaking things the package manager thinks it has under control.
[01:02] <ompaul> drop, >>>> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list <<<<  run the command between the <> and put in it the data from that web page, when done run >>sudo apt-get update<<<
[01:02] <ompaul> drop remove all other data from that page first
[01:02] <gnomefreak> bender_: what you use on your own pc has no concern to me. all i said is alien is _not_ recommended
[01:03] <bender_> eh i dont know why im debating it
[01:03] <ompaul> drop remove all other data from that FILE
[01:03] <phish_> bender_: how do i use my newly created .deb file
[01:03] <bender_> dpkg -i file.deb
[01:04] <ompaul> !blender
[01:04] <ubotu> I guess blender is a free 3d program that can be found at http://www.blender3d.org  and tutorials at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[01:04] <ompaul> !alien
[01:04] <ubotu> I heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:05] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul
[01:05] <bender_> i didnt say it wouldnt ever give issues..
[01:05] <gnomefreak> i was just getting there ;)
[01:05] <bender_> you fail to understand that
[01:05] <countserp> !recovery
[01:05] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, countserp
[01:05] <gnomefreak> bender_: ok let me rephrase my statment dont recommend the use of alien please
[01:05] <drop> so do i copy the whole page that it gives me
[01:06] <drop> seems like i erase some of the top
[01:06] <bender_> alien is a good program.
[01:06] <Reddragon> could some one please tell me why I can not see aegis virus application on my applications-system tooks menue even though I added it from the add programs function. Installed firestarter that way as well and all works fine with that.
[01:06] <miter> wha'ts the best MSN program? aMSN, GAIM, Kopete, OTHER?
[01:06] <bender_> gaim
[01:06] <miter> most compatible
[01:07] <drop> how do i save it now
[01:07] <ompaul> bender_, bender_, we don't suggest its use in this channel at all, that way those who help are starting from the same base, usually the thing is if you know what it is you can survive but if you ask you most likely need to add repos or get a deb and checkinstall comes way higher on the list that is the port of last call
[01:07] <bender_> ok .
[01:07] <drop> ompaul, how do i save it in nano
[01:08] <ompaul> drop, what does nano say at the bottom of the screen?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> drop: i think its ctrl+o or w
[01:08] <ompaul> drop, ctrl + o
[01:08] <gnomefreak> drop: the ^ mean ctrl button
[01:08] <drop> ctrl o is cur pos
[01:08] <Reddragon> ctrl+x then yes
[01:09] <Jaeger> Hello. I'm a linux newbie that got problem changing my screen resolution although I've tried to follow every kind of guide I can find on the forum. Anyone here that can offer som help?
[01:09] <ompaul> drop crtl o is write out
[01:09] <drop> ok got that done
[01:09] <bender_> Jaeger, whats the prob
[01:09] <ompaul> drop sudo apt-get update
[01:09] <gnomefreak> ctrl+X will close it without saving
[01:09] <Jaeger> bender_: may I take it in private?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> drop: after saved ctrl+X
[01:09] <bender_> sure.
[01:10] <drop> ok i am doing the sudo update and it seems to be working better
[01:10] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[01:10] <anonymous1> does anyone know of any data recovery or undelete software for ubuntu?
[01:10] <Reddragon> Problem adding aegis to applications list. Not showing up on tools list but marked to show.
[01:11] <drop> ok i use wifi. how could i send a single from a laptop to my home computer with out using another wifi
[01:11] <drop> hey guys that worked great
[01:11] <Reddragon> hey welcome back and thanks for the help yesterday
[01:12] <drop> how can i make a computers network card send a wifi signal so i can use my home pc
[01:12] <cmug> Any ideas why logwatch just hangs?
[01:12] <cmug> logwatch --range yesterday --service sshd never completes
[01:12] <anonymous1> does anyone know of any data recovery or undelete software for ubuntu?
[01:13] <Jaeger> bender_ Ahaa, I cannot send private messeges ;)
[01:13] <drop> i got routers and all that but i dont use a internet service
[01:13] <Jaeger> Didn't notice.
[01:13] <drop> ompaul, thanks for your help
[01:13] <HunterZR> hi
[01:13] <Reddragon> thinks to self wonders if I am invisible.
[01:13] <HunterZR> what is the Locale?
[01:13] <ompaul> drop we try
[01:13] <Reddragon> help please
[01:13] <raptros-v76> Reddragon: what up?
[01:14] <ompaul> !help
[01:14] <Jaeger> Anyway: I've been trying to change my native screen resolution that is 1280*800 to something else, but I cannot manage
[01:14] <Reddragon> Hey there thanks
[01:14] <ompaul> !resolution
[01:14] <ubotu> resolution is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:14] <drop> ompaul, how would i make my laptop send a internet signal to my home pc
[01:14] <Reddragon> I added two applications yesterday
[01:14] <raptros-v76> Reddragon: cool
[01:14] <Jaeger> i've tried to follow the guides :)
[01:14] <Reddragon> one aegis and firestarter
[01:14] <Jaeger> but thank you, I will try it again
[01:14] <ompaul> drop, please ask the channel that don't ask one person when I know and have the time I help
[01:14] <r0xoR> what repo is msttcorefonts in?
[01:14] <raptros-v76> Reddragon: i have firestarter
[01:14] <r0xoR> on 5.10
[01:14] <bender_> man this room sucks.. i dont even get to answer questions.. some one just !file and some bot does it for me
[01:15] <drop> oops sorry bout that
[01:15] <Reddragon> was even able to add it to the applications menu and remove it "firestarter that is".
[01:15] <ompaul> bender_, hey it makes life easy
[01:15] <ompaul> :-)
[01:15] <taser> I've added gnome-system-tools as a package, but I can't seem to find anything I can run, especiallly for configuring GRUB. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[01:15] <raptros-v76> bender_: no, the bot only knows what we tell it
[01:15] <drop> HEY ROOM I AM USING WIFI ON A LAPTOP. I WANT TO SHARE THE SIGNAL WITH MY HOME COMPUTER WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND
[01:15] <Reddragon> I can not for life of me figure out how to add aegis. Even though it is ticked to show
[01:15] <r0xoR> anyone? msttcorefonts? are there any standard "extras" repos aside from the ones on the list in the default install?
[01:15] <GazzaK> not shouting would be a start
[01:15] <ompaul> drop, do not use caps in this chat room
[01:15] <ompaul> !patience
[01:15] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[01:15] <bender_> we should drop drop for that rediculous yelling
[01:16] <gnomefreak> bender_: there are 700 or so people in the channel at any given time we can not sit and walk each person throught every step for ever issue
[01:16] <Rorviker> Could anyone paste some nameservers I can use ?
[01:16] <ompaul> bender_, just a moment
[01:16] <drop> oops
[01:16] <drop> sorry
[01:16] <drop> it got clicked
[01:16] <bender_> gnomefreak, 1) get off my back. 2) i was just making a statement.. i dont need you barking all your little SOP jargon at me
[01:17] <drop> my bad
[01:17] <sphinx> what do i need to mpeg running on ubuntu
[01:17] <deefzi> where can i get alsaconf?
[01:17] <drop> sorry bender
[01:17] <ompaul> drop stop talking wait 10 and ask again
[01:17] <drop> ok
[01:17] <[505] > r0xoR, have you tried adding the multiverse section to your sources?
[01:17] <raptros-v76> r0xoR: msttcorefonts? there in some odd place.  get easyubuntu at http://easyubuntu.sourceforge.net
[01:18] <raptros-v76> !easyubuntu
[01:18] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[01:18] <Reddragon> why can i not access aegis from the applications->system tools menue
[01:19] <taser> I've added gnome-system-tools as a package, but I can't seem to find anything I can run, especiallly for configuring GRUB. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[01:19] <IOWAHC> what plugin do I need to play mp3 files with xmms?
[01:19] <dvlgod> i was curious if anyone knew of a novell or third party open source plugin for evolution that will enable the old xml or rss (?) newsfeeds that evolution mail client used to get.  i've tried #novell and #evolution without any luck.
[01:19] <dvlgod> IOWAHC, i think you need w32codecs from plf
[01:19] <chip42> IOWAHC: i think you need the libmad0 package
[01:20] <roryy> IOWAHC: i think mp3 should work out the box with xmms. You may need to tell xmms to use esd for output on gnome
[01:20] <IOWAHC> k
[01:20] <raptros-v76> dvlgod: i think if you want newsfeeds, youl need  seperate program
[01:20] <IOWAHC> thx @ all
[01:20] <dvlgod> but you might as well go down the list of restricted formats -- if you dare, so you are media capable.
[01:20] <dvlgod> ok thank you raptros-v76 could you suggest a good one ?
[01:20] <Guma> !mplayer
[01:20] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:20] <r0xoR> ok i got easy ubuntu but it says "architecture not found"
[01:20] <dvlgod> i really liked the old selection of feeds that came with evolution
[01:20] <r0xoR> "please contact us in #easyubuntu on freenode"
[01:20] <Hexidigital> roryy, you need the restricted formats wiki?
[01:21] <r0xoR> i'm in there but it's like 3 ppl
[01:21] <roryy> Hexidigital: hmm?
[01:21] <Reddragon> can't see installed application. Can some one help
[01:21] <Hexidigital> did you need mp3 support? or were you just stating a comment?
[01:21] <skon> dvlgod, yeah i that and the summary page that evolution used to have as well
[01:21] <roryy> Hexidigital: i was attempting to help someone ;) thanks
[01:22] <Hexidigital> roryy, ok... sorry
[01:22] <|lostbyte|> Need help with wireless connection..
[01:22] <dvlgod> there are also players if i'm not mistaken that will play most formats without the codecs.
[01:22] <sphinx> what do i need to mpeg & mpg playing on ubuntulog
[01:22] <sphinx> what do i need to mpeg & mpg playing on ubuntu
[01:22] <dvlgod> i think.
[01:22] <|lostbyte|> i set up my wireless coneection to ad-hoc ( gatway ) mode
[01:22] <|lostbyte|> and i cant seem to connect to it..
[01:23] <r0xoR> raptros-v76, hey, i got easy ubuntu but it's giving me an error
[01:23] <raptros-v76> hey, if you go to the xmms website, there is a quote in the corner that seems to describe a problem with xmms and esd
[01:23] <raptros-v76> r0xoR: put the output on pastebin
[01:23] <r0xoR> raptros-v76, it's only one line: No supported architectures found, please contact authors in #easyubuntu on irc.freenode.net for help
[01:23] <dvlgod> i really like xmms but what i dont like is the file selection graphical format.  its so primitive, whereas gnome is more sleek.
[01:24] <raptros-v76> r0xoR: are you using dapper?
[01:24] <r0xoR> raptros-v76, which i'm doing but no one's responded over in #easyubuntu yet
[01:24] <r0xoR> raptros-v76, using breezy
[01:24] <gnomefreak> r0xoR: are you on breezy?
[01:24] <drop> how can i make a computers network card send a wifi signal so i can use my home pc
[01:24] <gnomefreak> nm answered already
[01:24] <dvlgod> i think r0xoR said there were only 3 people in there
[01:24] <raptros-v76> r0xoR: it should work
[01:24] <r0xoR> raptros-v76, hahah, ok great, well it's not
[01:24] <roryy> r0xoR: what architecture are you on?
[01:24] <Hexidigital> well folks.. have a good day... us third-shifters need sleep
[01:24] <dvlgod> drop you want to make a wireless router out of your linux box ?
[01:25] <raptros-v76> r0xoR: shh im thinking.
[01:25] <r0xoR> raptros-v76, the app comes up but it's blank basically... it's got the tabs but nothing under them
[01:25] <dvlgod> goodnite hexi
[01:25] <r0xoR> raptros-v76, i did recompile a custom kernel by hand
[01:25] <brainpod> I have an athlon 64 cpu, is it ok to install ubuntu using the 686 iso?
[01:25] <dvlgod> brain, yes
[01:25] <r0xoR> raptros-v76, i686 sorta, it's an Athlon 64
[01:25] <gnomefreak> brainpod: yes
[01:25] <drop> i got 3 laptops here, 1 pc, 3 routers..2 wireless
[01:25] <brainpod> would i notice much of a slow down?
[01:25] <raptros-v76> r0xoR: shouldnt make a difference
[01:25] <gnomefreak> no brainpod
[01:25] <cafuego> brainpod: none at all
[01:25] <brainpod> thanks
[01:25] <r0xoR> raptros-v76, where does easyubunty look for the architecture?
[01:25] <raptros-v76> r0xoR: do you have python installed?
[01:26] <r0xoR> yup
[01:26] <raptros-v76> and pythong gtk
[01:26] <Reddragon> Help with application menu editor
[01:26] <raptros-v76> python gtk
[01:26] <r0xoR> raptros-v76, as i said, the app displays
[01:26] <raptros-v76> ok
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Reddragon: whats the issue?
[01:26] <r0xoR> raptros-v76, it's got the logo and tabs, just nothing under the tabs
[01:26] <IOWAHC> anyone know how to use the command setpnp
[01:26] <IOWAHC> or how to find out wich Devicenumber my NIC has?
[01:26] <miter> how to isntall GDM themes?
[01:27] <raptros-v76> make sure to run it as root?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell miter about themes
[01:27] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:27] <Reddragon> can not see app that was installed with add application
[01:27] <r0xoR> raphael, sudo work?
[01:28] <r0xoR> grr, raptros-v76
[01:28] <r0xoR> i followed the instructions copy and paste style off the website
[01:28] <r0xoR> so i ran it with sudo
[01:28] <drop> i guess i need to rephrase that i want to send my wifi singal from the laptop to a router then from the router to other computers
[01:28] <miter> does ubuntu/debian not become overbloated and messy with the package system?
[01:28] <raptros-v76> r0xoR: i need breakfast. im not thinking very clearly
[01:28] <raptros-v76> ill be back around 8:15
[01:29] <taser> I've added gnome-system-tools as a package, but I can't seem to find anything I can run, especiallly for configuring GRUB. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[01:29] <miter> gnomefreak: i did install this gnome-art pakcage, howerver, i'm still not albe to drag&drop the archive to the GDM themes, nor by the browser
[01:29] <taser> !gnome-system-tools
[01:29] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, taser
[01:30] <xixaq> What is sudo?
[01:30] <hajuu_> !sudo
[01:30] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:30] <gnomefreak> miter: than go to the themes place in menu adn click install themes and browse when you find it add or install or whatever your choice is
[01:31] <chx> I have some source which I would like to see compiled as a static binary but I can't find a static option for configure
[01:31] <dvlgod> drop, well, you need wifi adaptors on each computer, you need to decide on the type of encryption to use, and you need to configure your router for that encryption and then setup each computer or device to access the router using your predefined configurations for wireless.  i learned the hard way on a non-wireless and picked up fast.  one caveat, if you only many computers typically you have ae range of 10 ports that can be open total.
[01:31] <roryy> taser: i have a feeling gnome-system-tools can't help you with grub. try 'dpkg -L gnome-system-tools|grep /bin/' to find the programs it gives you
[01:31] <miter> gnomefreak: that's what i did too,
[01:32] <gnomefreak> miter: ok was it in tar form?
[01:33] <roryy> chx: maybe 'CFLAGS=-static ./configure' (a guess)
[01:33] <delcoyote> !debootstrap
[01:33] <drop> so in lame terms
[01:33] <miter> gnomefreak: when browsing it did not work, nothing was showed... after draggiug the theme (tar) to the browser it actualize the desktop and now can install it (strange, eh?)
[01:33] <miter> does ubuntu/debian not become overbloated and messy with the package system?
[01:33] <gnomefreak> miter: if it was in tar format you might need to unpack it first than open the new file and drag those in
[01:33] <drop> seems ez to do
[01:34] <roryy> miter: why would it?
[01:34] <chip42> miter: versus what? unmanagable without it? imho no
[01:34] <miter> versus gentoo for ex.
[01:34] <roryy> miter: i think gentoo vs ubuntu is more suited to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:35] <dvlgod> ubuntu is a breeze for me to use :)  breezy :)
[01:35] <miter> ok but i have 1000s of packages installed, will that not cause problems for loading managing htem
[01:35] <miter> a lot of small files
[01:35] <Chousuke> it won't.
[01:35] <miter> ok, then
[01:35] <gnomefreak> miter: no the packagemanager is very very good at that ;)
[01:36] <miter> anyway i'm so GLAD THERE'S NO REGISTRY
[01:36] <ctr> miter: I don't think any linux HAS A REGISTRY.
[01:36] <roryy> yeah, we wouldn't want anything like gconf
[01:36] <drop> so i guess if anyones got time to help me out step by step that would be awesome
[01:36] <miter> any unix
[01:36] <gnomefreak> roryy: lol
[01:36] <Chousuke> um. I was going to say that. :D
[01:36] <miter> is gconf like a registry?
[01:36] <Chousuke> but gconf is a bit better than the registry.
[01:37] <ctr> miter: well osx is a unix and it has a central registry for a number of things :)
[01:37] <Chousuke> at least the keys are human readable, with relatively sane values.
[01:37] <gnomefreak> miter: yes
[01:37] <Chousuke> gconf isn't so bad though.
[01:37] <Chousuke> registry as an idea is not bad.
[01:37] <miter> is it that for configuring gnome behaviour
[01:37] <gnomefreak> miter: simular but not really
[01:37] <Chousuke> it's just the implementation that sucks most of the time.
[01:38] <louis-tang> anyone knows where to find the linux boot up message? I've tried dmesg but can
[01:39] <gnomefreak> boot up message?
[01:39] <louis-tang> can't* find the error message I saw while booting my syste
[01:39] <louis-tang> system*
[01:39] <gnomefreak> louis-tang: /var/logs/not real sure where in logs it is but should be there
[01:40] <louis-tang> yeah, when we start a linux system, a list of [ok]  or [fail]  message will be shown
[01:40] <tsume> can someone install swat in dapper and tell me if it works or not?
[01:40] <tsume> its not transmitting data, which makes me think its a bug
[01:40] <louis-tang> I've tried /var/logs/* but can't find the error messages
[01:40] <gnomefreak> tsume: try #ubuntu+1
[01:40] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:41] <drop> thanks all
[01:42] <ompaul> Hobbsee, pm?
[01:42] <Hobbsee> ompaul: sure
[01:42] <louis-tang> gnomefreak:  I even start to think the possibiliby to use a digital camera to take the pictures of the messages on my monitor when I reboot the system
[01:42] <roryy> louis-tang: the tail-end of that output might still be at ctl-alt-f8 (alt-f7 to get back to X)
[01:43] <louis-tang> roryy: I can see the tail-end output in ctl-alt-f8. but unfortunately the error message printed before that
[01:44] <louis-tang> ctl-alt-f1*
[01:44] <drop> how do i bridge ethernet and wireless on ubuntu
[01:45] <Putiikki> louis-tang: see logs
[01:45] <louis-tang> Putiikki: I've tried /var/logs/* but there is no error message there
[01:45] <Putiikki> ok
[01:47] <stevietool> my wireless won't work anymore ..."failed to send web_key command" someone familiar with that?
[01:50] <FearMoth> how do I mount a floppy disk in ubuntu? I don't have a /dev/fd0 or /dev/floppy
[01:51] <stevietool> mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[01:51] <stevietool> first mkdir /mnt/floppy
[01:51] <francis> what is the tool to lookup cpu temperature ?
[01:52] <Hattori> hello, i have just made a sudo apt-get update/upgrade.. after reboot it loads the main drivers and it hangs at mounting root system. if i choose recovery mode in grub, i see that the last line says: Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init. is there anyhting i can do? or i have to format all? =(
[01:52] <FearMoth> stevietool: it says "mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist"
[01:52] <chip42> FearMoth: wow. that is wierd. what kind of floppy drive is that?
[01:53] <stevietool> FearMoth: is it an usb floppy drive?
[01:53] <Stephano> can somebody help me?
[01:54] <FearMoth> chip42, stevietool: nope, run of the mill 3.5" floppy
[01:54] <roryy> Stephano: tell use what's wrong
[01:55] <stevietool> FearMoth: maybe you can do a dmesg and see what the problem is
[01:55] <FearMoth> I installed ubuntu with the floppy unplugged though, and just plugged it in before this bootup. could that have something to do with it?
[01:55] <chip42> FearMoth: you sure its really plugged in is the question ;)
[01:56] <FearMoth> chip42: oh, maybe it's disabled in bios i better check that
[01:56] <FearMoth> brb
[01:56] <Christophe> i downloaded the new firefox 1.5 how do i install it
[01:56] <stevietool> Fearmoth: is there a green led on the floppy drive
[01:56] <dvlgod> i've had problems with floppies before in ubuntu as well something about does not recognize some sort of file system type.
[01:56] <d3wd> ntfs
[01:57] <roryy> !ff1.5
[01:57] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:58] <delcoyote> !apache2
[01:58] <ubotu> delcoyote: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:58] <haakonn> is anyone else having problems with rdiff-backup --remove-older-than? it always crashes with a python stacktrace here, even on newly created backups (breezy)
[01:58] <stevietool> dvlgod: somethimes you can give the filesystem fat32 within the prefix : mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[01:58] <haakonn> so all my backups just keep growing in size :(
[01:59] <Hattori> hello, i have just made a sudo apt-get update/upgrade.. after reboot it loads the main drivers and it hangs at mounting root system. if i choose recovery mode in grub, i see that the last line says: Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init. is there anyhting i can do? or i have to format all? =(
[01:59] <dvlgod> stevie ok thank you
[02:00] <stevietool> dvlgod: no prob
[02:00] <roryy> Hattori: did you upgrade to dapper, or was it just a normal breezy system update (or something else) ?
[02:02] <FearMoth> so, yeah my floppy was disabled in bios
[02:02] <FennyLAP> can someone help me with a grub install
[02:02] <FennyLAP> my grub installed to the wrong drive
[02:02] <Christophe> is firefox 1.5 better
[02:02] <FennyLAP> and I need to figure out how to instlal it to the correct drive
[02:03] <roryy> FearMoth: is it working now?
[02:03] <Christophe> well i think i messed up installin cause its in the wrong directory
[02:04] <dvlgod> Christophe, i think so there is one integrated streaming video app that i believe isn't working but other than that it seems to be quite nice
[02:04] <FearMoth> roryy: yup
[02:04] <roryy> cool
[02:04] <stevietool> FearMoth: what was the problem ?
[02:04] <FearMoth> stevietool: was disabled in bios
[02:04] <Hattori> roryy: was dapper, and upgraded with new updates
[02:05] <gnomefreak> Christophe: cp it to the dir you want it in
[02:05] <gnomefreak> Christophe: depending what step your on
[02:05] <Christophe> whats the command
[02:05] <stevietool> FearMoth: :-)
[02:05] <Christophe> i am at the wiki
[02:05] <sphinx> ubotu,  java runtime
[02:05] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sphinx
[02:05] <sphinx> ubotu,  jre
[02:05] <ubotu> sphinx: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:05] <raptros-v76> !java
[02:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:05] <sphinx> !tell ubotu,  jre
[02:05] <Christophe> i installed the libstdc++5
[02:05] <FearMoth> now I need to write an image to the disk, and I just ran dd if=infile.bin of=/dev/fd0 and it just wrote a bunch of junk to the disk. to try it again do I need to format the disk and then dd again, or can I just skip the formatting part?
[02:05] <roryy> Hattori: if it was a breezy to dapper upgrade, did you use 'dist-upgrade' or just 'upgrade' ? Also, I suggest #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[02:05] <gnomefreak> Christophe: have you downloaded the tar? have you unpacked the tar in the /opt/file?
[02:06] <Christophe> i downloaded it to my desktop by misstake
[02:06] <gnomefreak> Christophe: that is fine
[02:06] <raptros-v76> sphinx: hey, do you need help with java?
[02:06] <dvlgod> is /opt/ generally where you unpack .tar.gz etc ?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> dvlgod: for ff yes
[02:06] <dvlgod> ok
[02:07] <gnomefreak> Christophe: do you see the sudo tar -C command?
[02:08] <Christophe> where is that command
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Christophe: that will unpack it in the right place :) if you follow wiki as written paste the commands into terminal everything works out great ;)
[02:08] <dvlgod> there is a nice little thread i can fetch perhaps regarding the installation of firefox 1.5.x http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79283&page=7&highlight=install+macromedia+flash+firefox+1.5
[02:08] <Talldave2002> can anyone help. i have a ELF executable program called cbtracker, which i have used before, but now it just refuses to work
[02:08] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[02:08] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:08] <Christophe> do i type that in terminal
[02:08] <dvlgod> hmm oops
[02:08] <dvlgod> yeah follow the wiki
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Christophe: the sudo tar -C command yes
[02:08] <NanoBCN> Hi guys, got a problem. Can't install/remove a wild package anymore. apt-get gives me an error output forever doesn't matter what I do
[02:08] <stevietool> gnomefreak:dvlgod: I think when you unpack tar it is default in the directory where you're in
[02:08] <Christophe> what do i type
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Christophe: everything in the boxes without the # should be typed as a command
[02:09] <dvlgod> i had to refrence the wiki to import macromedia flash and java into the new firefox
[02:09] <Christophe> ok
[02:09] <gnomefreak> stevietool: that command will unpack it in /opt
[02:09] <Christophe> so can skip the bookmark back up step
[02:09] <NanoBCN> Can anyone help me?
[02:09] <dvlgod> sudo is root and if it doesn't say sudo, dont -- firefox can be installed globally or existing user.
[02:10] <dvlgod> "root" is a loose term i give.  i just sudo su.
[02:10] <gnomefreak> sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.2.tar.gz   will unpack it in /opt
[02:10] <gnomefreak> wonders why the xzvf are sepraterated :(
[02:10] <raptros-v76> dvlgod: sudo -s is better for becoming root
[02:10] <gnomefreak> raptros-v76: sudo -i is better
[02:11] <stevietool> ok when you give it in the prefix
[02:11] <Talldave2002> can anyone help with an ELF executable that refuses to open?
[02:11] <Christophe> i am lost
[02:12] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: sets up permissions differently, ie, better, apparently
[02:12] <gnomefreak> Christophe: just copy and paste the commands as they are there
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ty Hobbsee
[02:12] <Christophe> from # 2 #
[02:12] <Solskogen> Is it okay to file a bug on intuitiveness?
[02:12] <Christophe> im sorry gnomefreak
[02:13] <subsinker> Hi folks
[02:13] <gnomefreak> Christophe: the things with # infront are just comments read them dont type them
[02:13] <MisterN> hi
[02:13] <subsinker> Is it possible to use different xorg configurations with each different type of session?
[02:14] <dvlgod> thank you raptros-v76 and gnomefreak
[02:14] <gnomefreak> dvlgod: yw
[02:14] <raptros-v76> dvlgod: anytime
[02:14] <dvlgod> :)
[02:14] <holden_> How can I remove an application I installed from source? An anti-make install of sorts...?
[02:14] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:14] <Christophe> i messed up gnome
[02:14] <Christophe> i cant get it to take any of the command
[02:15] <Christophe> s
[02:15] <gnomefreak> Christophe: why do you say that?
[02:15] <Christophe> it wont let me do any of the commands
[02:15] <gnomefreak> Christophe: after unpacking it with the command i gave above what did you do?
[02:15] <dvlgod> people used to call me crazy for loving gnome :(  last night i put a gnome statue in my front yard to see if our neighborhood would think we were weird.  like the x-files episode with the pink flamingos and the "out of place" things people overreact to :)
[02:15] <Christophe> i typed  sudo tar -C
[02:15] <gnomefreak> Christophe: cd /opt/firefox/plugins/  did you do this?
[02:16] <FearMoth> howcome when I write a valid floppy image to my floppy disk using dd if=sbm.bin of=/dev/fd0  it writes a bunch of junk to the disk and when I mount the disk and ls, the encoding is messed up and the file sizes are screwed up too?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> Christophe: the sudo tar -C command the full command should have unpacked the tar
[02:16] <indypende> hi all!
[02:16] <subsinker> holden_: Theres just the way in seeking all installed files and deleting them. y dont u use checkinstall - it creates debs that u can install like any other package
[02:16] <gnomefreak> than the cd /opt/firefox/plugins/ will change you to the dir you need to be in
[02:17] <Christophe> said bash no such file
[02:17] <indypende> i've update my system and got a non working NetworkManager applet!
[02:17] <raptros-v76> ouch
[02:17] <Christophe> i cant redownload it to opt either
[02:17] <indypende> anyone have the same problem?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> Christophe: it looks like you skipped the first 4 commands :(
[02:17] <holden_> subsinker: and what's that way? how do I know which files are the ones im interested in?
[02:18] <Christophe> im soo lost
[02:18] <Christophe> i give up
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Christophe: every command on that page is needed not just put there you didnt run the mkdir command so you dont have the dir made so you cant cd into it
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Christophe: if you join #ubuntu-offtopic i will help you get it set up ;)
[02:19] <gnomefreak> but ill brb need a smoke first
[02:19] <subsinker> holden_: yeah... thats the matter - nearly no one knows what files the compiler installed in what directory. well... just forget about that. i advise u to use checkinstall in the future - then u can remove any program by dpkg -r
[02:19] <Christophe> ok
[02:19] <Christophe> im there
[02:20] <holden_> subsinker: and clearly I can't do it now, too late.
[02:20] <holden_> mhmh
[02:20] <Christophe> ok thanks
[02:21] <Talldave2002> how do i change the default open with for a particular file type?
[02:21] <bimberi> !defaultapp
[02:21] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[02:21] <MenZa> ...I don't have any sound in my flash-player. Does anyone know what's causing this -- and how I get it back?
[02:21] <MenZa> -back
[02:22] <MenZa> It was never there ;)
[02:22] <Talldave2002> ubotu the file is an ELF
[02:22] <ubotu> Talldave2002: okay
[02:23] <Talldave2002> ubotu i had it working before but now it is trying to open with another program rather than executing itself
[02:23] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Talldave2002
[02:23] <Talldave2002> aye
[02:23] <raptros-v76> Talldave2002: ubotu is a bot
[02:23] <MenZa> lmao
[02:23] <raptros-v76> Talldave2002: are you trying to open a binary?
[02:24] <Talldave2002> raptros-v76 it is a program called cbtracker, it is an ELF executable, but it refuses to work
[02:24] <monomaniacpat> Hi guys! Can anyone tell me how to set a wireless card to work on startup? I followed the wiki guide, but I'm not sure how to change it so that it works for my computer... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:25] <raptros-v76> Talldave2002: uhh, what?
[02:25] <|lostbyte|> how do  i tell ubuntu which interface to use for internet connection sharing ?
[02:25] <Talldave2002> raptros-v76 it is trying to open with another program rather than executing itself
[02:25] <raptros-v76> Talldave2002: run it in the terminal
[02:26] <Talldave2002> raptros-v76 still dosent work
[02:26] <holden_> subsinker: I can install checkinstall, run it in the directory where I did the configure make and makeinstall thing, and then remove it?
[02:26] <holden_> or somthign?
[02:26] <holden_> :d
[02:26] <raptros-v76> Talldave2002: whre do you have it installed?
[02:27] <monomaniacpat> anyone?
[02:27] <Talldave2002> its just on my desktop
[02:27] <Talldave2002> raptros-v76 just on my desktop
[02:27] <subsinker> holden_: u mean without reinstalling via checkinstall?
[02:27] <stevietool> monomaniacpat: your wireless card works?
[02:28] <monomaniacpat> yep!
[02:28] <monomaniacpat> :D
[02:28] <raptros-v76> Talldave2002: ok, in the terminal, just type in the path to it, for instance /home/(username)/Desktop/cbtracker
[02:28] <holden_> subsinker: dont know! :) what does checkinstall do?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell holden_ about checkinstall
[02:29] <stevietool> just go to /etc/network/interfaces and insert map<eth*> in mapping hotplug
[02:29] <holden_> :) thx
[02:29] <Talldave2002> raptros-v76 just says command not found
[02:29] <raptros-v76> ... what?
[02:30] <raptros-v76> what did you type in?
[02:30] <stevietool> monomaniacpat: where <eth*> stands for your wirelles card
[02:30] <sphinx> ubuto , add a network printer
[02:31] <watsont4> hi all
[02:31] <Talldave2002> raptros-v76 i know a bit about file locations cet, the file is there its not working because it is trying to open with another program, from the file properties open with tab, i can see that its wrong, and i need to reset it so it executes itself as a program
[02:31] <watsont4> hi im having a strange problem with my networking on my laptop
[02:31] <raptros-v76> Talldave2002: ok, so what program is it trying to open with?
[02:32] <watsont4> i performed a dis-upgrade and now i cant connect to anything
[02:32] <watsont4> weird thing is iwconfig still works fine
[02:32] <Talldave2002> raptros-v76 terminal
[02:32] <watsont4> i can see the card, it says its connected
[02:32] <monomaniacpat> stevietool: OK, I've gedit'd it, what do I add? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13059
[02:32] <raptros-v76> Talldave2002: what kind of program is it?
[02:33] <watsont4> however in network settings i cant seem to activate the wireless connection
[02:33] <Talldave2002> raptros-v76 is is a small cheque book treacker, its actually an ELF so it shoul run with no compiling etc
[02:33] <raptros-v76> check its permissions
[02:34] <stevietool> monomaniacpat: if you do ifconfig...what's the name of your wireless eth0/eth1 ?
[02:34] <monomaniacpat> wlan0?
[02:34] <Talldave2002> raptros-v76 is is here if you want to try it http://tony.maro.net/mod.php?mod=downloads&op=showcat&id=1&level=1
[02:35] <raptros-v76> Talldave2002: check your permissions for the file, (in the properties).  do you have executing permissions
[02:36] <ikaruga2099> Hi all! Thanks for the great job!
[02:36] <Talldave2002> raptros-v76 yes
[02:37] <joseceri> o bajarse el ultimo kdevelop
[02:37] <raptros-v76> Talldave2002: ok, i have no idea.  it may be that there is something wrong with the program
[02:37] <raptros-v76> i g3g
[02:37] <raptros-v76> i g2g
[02:37] <joseceri> alguien espaol y ke sepa como bajarse el ultimo kdevelop?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> !es
[02:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:38] <delcoyote> joseceri /join #ubuntu-es
[02:38] <prcleary>  \join #ubuntu-fr
[02:38] <NanoBCN> hi, guys, can anyone help me fixing a broken package?
[02:38] <subsinker> Is it possible to use different xorg configurations with each different type of session?
[02:38] <Solskogen> heh, everytime I use "Por favor" is always have to do something with beer :)
[02:38] <NanoBCN> I can't install/remove/reconfigure
[02:39] <ikaruga2099> I had a quick question---I'm trying to get cgi up and running. I have apache and mysql working but not cgi. I apt-get'ed libapache2-mod-fcgid , then did sudo a2enmod fcgid, then added "Options +ExecCGI FollowSymLinks" to my apache conf file (in the right place of course) but it still won't recognize perl scripts
[02:39] <delcoyote> XDDD Solskogen Skoll!!
[02:39] <ikaruga2099> is there anything else I need to do?
[02:39] <joseceri> SABES COMO SE BAJA EL ULTIMO KDEVELOP?
[02:39] <delcoyote> joseceri please(porfavor ) go to (ves a ) #ubuntu-es
[02:40] <joseceri> DEL COYOTE YA LO TENGO PERO NO PUEDO COMPILAR EL ARCHIVO DE "HOLA MUNDO"
[02:40] <joseceri> ME DICE NO SEQUE DEL CONFIGURE
[02:41] <delcoyote> excuse language
[02:41] <_jason> !es
[02:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:41] <delcoyote> joseceri teclea abajo /join #ubuntu-es y unete al canal y pregunta alli
[02:42] <joseceri> #ubuntu-es
[02:42] <delcoyote> + /join
[02:42] <joseceri> gracias
[02:43] <delcoyote> you're welcome
[02:44] <miter> hello, how to restart the X-server with the command line (like ctrl+alt+bkspc)?
[02:44] <monomaniacpat> stevietool: are you still there? Anyone else know how to set the wireless card to start at start up?
[02:45] <simonpca> plop
[02:45] <ikaruga2099> I had a quick question---I'm trying to get cgi up and running. I have apache and mysql working but not cgi. I apt-get'ed libapache2-mod-fcgid , then did sudo a2enmod fcgid, then added "Options +ExecCGI FollowSymLinks" to my apache conf file (in the right place of course) but it still won't recognize perl scripts.
[02:46] <kbrooks> ikaruga2099: you dont need fcgi for cgi
[02:46] <Drac[Server] > How does one change the hostname?
[02:46] <rinke> hostname
[02:46] <kbrooks> ikaruga2099: fast cgi isnt cgi
[02:46] <kbrooks> ikaruga2099: they are different.
[02:47] <rinke> kbrooks you could change your hostname with the commando hostname.
[02:47] <miter> hello, how to restart the X-server with the command line (like ctrl+alt+bkspc)?
[02:47] <kbrooks> rinke: ?
[02:47] <kbrooks> rinke: what the?
[02:47] <kbrooks> rinke: who are ytou talking to?
[02:47] <Drac[Server] > rinke: That screws up sudo. I need to change the sudo file first.
[02:47] <kbrooks> rinke: i didnt ask that
[02:47] <kbrooks> Drac[Server] : no, it doesnt
[02:47] <ikaruga2099> kbrooks: oh thanks, so what packages do I need to install?
[02:48] <Drac[Server] > kbrooks: I already tried it, and it DOES screw up sudo, so don't tell me otherwise. I had to go into the root account whose password I had luckily created, or the entire system would have no root access.
[02:48] <kbrooks> Drac[Server] : um, read !rootsudo
[02:48] <ikaruga2099> kbrooks: or better yet, is there a guide you can point me to?
[02:48] <Drac[Server] > Sudo complains that it can't get the host by name, or something like that, if the hostname says otherwise.
[02:48] <kbrooks> all's all that's all :-)
[02:49] <Drac[Server] > Please don't whine at me about creating a root password and soforth. I like to have root just in case, and this is why. Sudo can't change the hostname.
[02:49] <kbrooks> Drac[Server] : i'm not whining at you
[02:49] <delcoyote> Drac did you try ubuntuguide.org?
[02:49] <kbrooks> Drac[Server] : i'm asking you to read !rootsudo: /msg ubotu rootsudo
[02:50] <kbrooks> delcoyote: don't recommend it
[02:50] <kbrooks> !tell delcoyote about ubuntuguide
[02:50] <Drac[Server] > kbrooks: I know all about root and sudo. I've used many linux distros, would you just listen to me, please?
[02:50] <Rorviker> When I specify a static ip adress to my server, after some mins it goes away. any dhcp process or something I need to kill ?
[02:50] <kbrooks> Drac[Server] : sure
[02:50] <kbrooks> Drac[Server] : breakfast though
[02:50] <delcoyote> thanks kbrooks :-)
[02:50] <kbrooks> Drac[Server] : brb
[02:50] <Drac[Server] > kbrooks: If the hostname changes, sudo has a problem. This is because there's some file somewhere that tells sudo what the hostname is supposed to be, and it doesn't change when you do "hostname" as sudo or root.
[02:51] <ikaruga2099> ok guys, so if I want to get cgi and perl running on my system what packages do I need? is there a guide out there?
[02:51] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: Everything installed by default
[02:51] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: On a server, install "perl" package, that should be it.
[02:52] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: on my machine it's not working
[02:53] <ikaruga2099> don't I need php5-cgi or something?
[02:53] <stevietool> monomaniacpat: looks good, paste it under "primary network interfaces (maybe auto-wlan0 on top of the rules)
[02:54] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: Why would you need php5-cgi for perl/cgi? I got perl/cgi running on my system with just apache2 and perl.
[02:54] <monomaniacpat> stevietool: sorry, what exactly do you want me to do (sorry for being dense)?
[02:54] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: php-cgi---I meant
[02:54] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: Again, why? You don't need PHP to make perl and CGI work.
[02:55] <monomaniacpat> It has a list for mapping under which wlan0 is not listed
[02:55] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: oh, well whatever it is that I need, I don't have because cgi scripts aren't running
[02:55] <stevietool> monomaniacpat: was that your config under /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:55] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: Do you have apache and perl installed?
[02:55] <monomaniacpat> I don't know of any 'primary network interfaces'
[02:55] <monomaniacpat> Yes
[02:56] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: yes, I have those running
[02:56] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: i.e., working
[02:56] <thugren> open the root account?
[02:57] <thugren> is sudo ???
[02:57] <monomaniacpat> stevietool: refresh the page, I have put the whole file up for your perusal
[02:57] <miter> hello, how to restart the X-server with the command line (like ctrl+alt+bkspc)?
[02:58] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: You need to put "+ExecCGI" in the Options clause of the Apache config, for all directories where you have CGI scripts
[02:58] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: been there done that
[02:58] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: You need to have all CGI scripts executable (chmod +x)
[02:58] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: ahhh
[02:58] <guem> miter: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:58] <wisitvenita> hi
[02:59] <miter> guem: thanks
[02:59] <stevietool> monomaniacpat: well I think you have to put the rule auto wlan0 at the beginning not at the end
[02:59] <wisitvenita> is there anybody who is using slax?
[02:59] <mirak> firefox is better on windows XP, that's really a shame :-/
[02:59] <guem> miter: or stop and start again (instead of restart)
[02:59] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: And you should add something like "AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl" to the directory in the config
[02:59] <miter> how to stop it?
[02:59] <miter> stopx?
[03:00] <guem> miter /etc/init.d/gdm stop :)
[03:00] <miter> ok
[03:00] <wisitvenita> hi?
[03:00] <tomi_> cs
[03:00] <monomaniacpat> Lime this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13062
[03:00] <monomaniacpat> *like
[03:00] <guzu> hello all
[03:00] <thugren> Hey so how do I get root account working?
[03:00] <_jason> !root
[03:00] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:00] <guem> thugren: sudo passwd root ?
[03:00] <wisitvenita> how can i use some command instead of input "slax autoexec=startx" when boot?
[03:00] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: dumb question---exactly how do I set the right permissions? I just tried chmod +x -R * but that didn't seem to work
[03:00] <doms> what is the latest version of xchat
[03:01] <_jason> ikaruga2099: the -R goes first, be very sure you want to recurse through everything with that
[03:01] <guem> doms: 2.6.1 on dapper (apt)
[03:01] <watsont4> hi would anyone be able to help me with some network problems?
[03:01] <kbrooks> doms: 2.6.1
[03:01] <guem> watsont4: like what ?
[03:01] <McScruff> i have a command i want to run before x starts, where can i put this to auto run?
[03:01] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: You need to set +x on that permissions that the server will use to access the file.
[03:01] <doms> ahh
[03:01] <doms> ok
[03:01] <doms> thanks
[03:02] <watsont4> guem: well im having trouble connecting to eht internet
[03:02] <watsont4> using a wirless card
[03:02] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: ??? don't follow
[03:02] <guem> watsont4: what card/chip ?
[03:02] <watsont4> iwconfig is fine
[03:02] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: So if the file is owned by www-data, you should do chmod u+x... if it's in the www-data group, do chmod g+x... if it's neither, do chmod o+x...
[03:02] <watsont4> ipw2200
[03:02] <watsont4> it did work
[03:02] <watsont4> then i did an upgrade
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> watsont4: sudo modprobe ipw2200
[03:02] <kbrooks> ikaruga2099:
[03:02] <kbrooks> er nm
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> watsont4: try that first
[03:02] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: The easiest way is to "sudo -R o+x", but it's risky security-wise.
[03:03] <watsont4> no errors
[03:03] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: Mh... or maybe "sudo -R +x *"
[03:03] <watsont4> btw i should say that the card seems to be working fine
[03:03] <guem> watsont4: do you have a physical link ?
[03:03] <watsont4> i can scan for acces points
[03:03] <kbrooks> Tomcat_: "chmod"
[03:03] <watsont4> and it says i am connected in iwconfig
[03:03] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: I just tried that last thing, but when I now try to run the perl script (from the browser) I get "Access forbidden!"
[03:03] <kbrooks> Tomcat_: you're missin that
[03:03] <Tomcat_> kbrooks: Whoops, yes. :)
[03:03] <guem> watsont4: acces point is using dhcp i guess ?
[03:03] <kbrooks> ikaruga2099: access?
[03:03] <watsont4> guem: yes it uses dhcp
[03:04] <McScruff> sudo dhclient eth1
[03:04] <kbrooks> ikaruga2099: pastebin the perl script
[03:04] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: In that case the permissions are not correct...
[03:04] <wisitvenita> How can i use some command instead of input "slax autoexec=startx" when boot? Please :)
[03:04] <McScruff> i have a command i want to run before x starts, where can i put this to auto run?
[03:04] <kbrooks> wisitvenita: not here
[03:04] <ikaruga2099> kbrooks: ??? pastbin?
[03:04] <guem> watsont4: try disabling your eth-card and the sudo dhclient wifi-interface
[03:04] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: You also have to check if the directory is accessible.
[03:04] <watsont4> oh yes when i run dhclient i get permission errors, and yes i am running it with sudo
[03:04] <wisitvenita> kbrooks: not here?
[03:04] <kbrooks> wisitvenita: OT
[03:05] <_jason> McScruff: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh, you should 'man update-rc.d' for more info about how it works
[03:05] <wisitvenita> kbrooks: where?
[03:05] <kbrooks> wisitvenita: OT == Off topic
[03:05] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: well it was accesible before
[03:05] <wisitvenita> kbrooks: oh?
[03:05] <kbrooks> wisitvenita: anywhere, #slax, ##slax, ##linux
[03:05] <kbrooks> where that talk is on topic
[03:05] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: In that case, what are the permissions on the file you are testing?
[03:05] <wisitvenita> bkrooks: there are only a few people in #slax
[03:06] <kbrooks> wisitvenita: then try ##slax
[03:06] <guem> watsont4: sudo dhclient "wlan-if-n" is reporting an error ?
[03:06] <wisitvenita> ok
[03:06] <kbrooks> wisitvenita: still few people in ##slax?  try ##linux
[03:06] <watsont4> guem: yes it is
[03:06] <guem> watsont4: what error ?
[03:06] <watsont4> SIOCSIFADDR: permission denied
[03:06] <wisitvenita> i can't talk on ##linux
[03:06] <watsont4> and no such device
[03:07] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: when I open up nautilus, everyone can read and execute. But only root can also write
[03:07] <watsont4> should i use eth1?
[03:07] <kbrooks> wisitvenita: register
[03:07] <watsont4> sudo dhclient eth1
[03:07] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_:  -rwxr-xr-x
[03:07] <kbrooks> wisitvenita: /msg nickserv help register
[03:07] <guem> watsont4: well what is your device-name ? :)
[03:07] <watsont4> eth1
[03:07] <doms> whats the new firefox version
[03:07] <guem> watsont4: then use sudo dhclient eth1 :)
[03:08] <wisitvenita> kbrooks: seems that i have registered
[03:08] <watsont4> yep this is where i get lots of errors
[03:08] <kbrooks> wisitvenita: confused?
[03:08] <wisitvenita> kbrooks: forget how to login ... :(
[03:08] <watsont4> SIOCSIDFADDR: permission denied
[03:08] <watsont4> SIOCADDRD: operation not permitted
[03:08] <kbrooks> wisitvenita: youre auto logged in when you register
[03:08] <watsont4> lots of other SIOCSIF* permmission denied
[03:08] <kbrooks> wisitvenita: part ##linux, then join ##linux
[03:09] <wisitvenita> kbrooks: but i'm on another ip
[03:09] <kbrooks> wisitvenita: that wont change your ip
[03:09] <doms> how do i install flash plug-in for linux
[03:09] <reiki> !flash
[03:09] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:09] <wisitvenita> kbrooks: confused
[03:10] <guem> watsont4: hm, weird.. do you have eth0 (wired) as well ? you have to use another network/ip with that interface
[03:10] <watsont4> i have got eth0
[03:10] <watsont4> i would like to point out that it used to work fine
[03:10] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: I checked it on my install... either ExecCGI is not correctly set or your permissions. Are you sure ExecCGI is on in that directory/virtualserver/process?
[03:10] <watsont4> something must have changed
[03:10] <watsont4> it started when i was upgrading
[03:10] <guem> watsont4: upgrading what?
[03:10] <watsont4> the upgrader hung
[03:10] <doms> how do i install flash plug-in for linux
[03:10] <watsont4> dist-upgrade
[03:11] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: i'll show you my conf file
[03:11] <watsont4> im not sure what packages were being upgraded
[03:11] <watsont4> but it hung and i had to kill the installation program using xkill
[03:11] <wisitvenita> kbrooks: but i think the answer works on ubuntu too
[03:11] <guem> watsont4: well that doesn't explain the Permission error i think :)
[03:11] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_:
[03:11] <watsont4> yeah thats what i thought
[03:11] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_:
[03:11] <ikaruga2099> <Directory "/var/www/TWiki/bin">
[03:11] <ikaruga2099> 	 Options +ExecCGI FollowSymLinks
[03:11] <ikaruga2099> 	 SetHandler cgi-script
[03:11] <ikaruga2099> 	 Order Allow,Deny
[03:11] <ikaruga2099> 	 Allow from all
[03:12] <ikaruga2099> 	 Deny from env=anonymous_spider
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[03:12] <guem> watsont4: your sudo is working fine, right ?
[03:12] <kbrooks> ikaruga2099: DO NOT PASTE
[03:12] <watsont4> yes its fine
[03:12] <doms> how do i install flash plug-in for linux
[03:12] <doms> how do i install flash plug-in for linux
[03:12] <watsont4> !flash
[03:12] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:12] <ikaruga2099> kbrooks: sorrry
[03:12] <kbrooks> ikaruga2099: Use pastebin next time
[03:12] <kbrooks> !tell ikaruga2099 about paste
[03:12] <jbzz> Problem: with PostgreSQL 8.0.1  with  Ubuntu 5.10  while using the Query Tool my cursor will often change to a plus sign with a 90 degree angle above and to the left of the plus.  The cursor moves but I cannot click anything.
[03:12] <ikaruga2099> kbrooks: thanx
[03:13] <watsont4> guem: sudo seems to be working fine
[03:13] <kbrooks> ikaruga2099: youre forgiven tho :-)
[03:13] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: Okay, and the server is restarted since the config chance?
[03:13] <wisitvenita> kbrooks: do you know how can i autorun something under xwin?
[03:13] <crunchyfish> i've burned the 64 bit image and the 32 bit image twice apiece, the second time being at 1x burn speed and no matter what i do, when i try to install ubuntu, it will copy files, reboot as usual, and then freeze between the 70-80% mark of installation. any last resort ideas?
[03:13] <watsont4> guem if i tried to use a static ip could i use that as a workaround?
[03:13] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: Yeah, I even also "forced-reload"
[03:14] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: In that case I'm out of ideas... it should work.
[03:14] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: Do you have an .htaccess file in that directory?
[03:14] <ikaruga2099> tomcat_: no
[03:14] <McScruff> crunchyfish, run an md5 check on the iso's make sure they iso isnt corrupt
[03:14] <guem> watsont4: you could give it a try.. sure. try ifconfig eth1 <ip> netmask <ip-range>
[03:14] <kbrooks> crunchyfish: odd
[03:14] <Tomcat_> ikaruga2099: Okay, out of ideas then. :)
[03:14] <watsont4> what value do i use for ip-range?
[03:15] <guem> watsont4: what is your wlan-network? 192.168.0.x ?
[03:15] <watsont4> 192.168.1.x
[03:15] <guem> watsont4: then use 192.168.1.255
[03:16] <watsont4> guem: ok will do
[03:16] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone remember the name of the guy who was helping me a minute ago?
[03:16] <guem> watsont4: route add default gw 192.168.1.1 (if this is the access point)
[03:16] <varsendagger> hey wha ti s that tool i need to complie things and be able to remove them later?
[03:16] <ShortChange> hey guys, i have an sshd problem. when i try sshd start i get "sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path" and if i try ssh start i get "ssh: start: Temporary failure in the name resolution"
[03:16] <jbzz> I am having a problem with the mouse while using the pgAdmin3 query tool , PostgreSQL 8.0.1 and Ubuntu 5.10   Keyboard sometimes unresponsive, mouse changes to plus sign but will not 'click' anything.
[03:16] <guem> watsont4: always sudo of course
[03:16] <stevietool> monomaniacpat: yo is it fixed?
[03:17] <monomaniacpat> No, I had to set it up again on rewstart
[03:17] <crunchyfish> not to be dumb but where would i get the md5 file for the iso?
[03:17] <crunchyfish> or do i run the check on the iso file itself?
[03:17] <guem> ShortChange: use /etc/init.d/ssh start|stop
[03:17] <watsont4> guem:  ofcourse :)
[03:17] <guem> watsont4: ,)
[03:18] <watsont4> i get an invald argument from netmask for the first command
[03:18] <Rorviker> When I specify a static ip adress to my server, after some min. eth0 dont have any ip at all. any dhcp process or something I need to kill ?
[03:18] <roryy> crunchyfish: there should be an MD5SUM file at the same place you downloaded the .iso files from
[03:18] <watsont4> im using netmask 192.168.1.255
[03:18] <guem> watsont4: well screw the netmask thing.. just ifconfig eth1 <ip>
[03:18] <doms> how do i install flash plug-in for linux
[03:18] <ShortChange> guem, as i said when i tried ssh start i get the ssh: start: Temporary failure in the name resolution
[03:18] <guem> !flash
[03:18] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:18] <roryy> watsont4: i'd guess you want a netmask of 255.255.255.0 there
[03:19] <watsont4> yeah i changed it to that it seemed to work
[03:19] <doms> how to upgrade my firefox broswer
[03:19] <doms> how to upgrade my firefox broswer
[03:19] <monomaniacpat> doms: I suggest you check out automatix on the forums. Seriously, it saves so much time
[03:19] <_jason> doms: what version are you using now?
[03:19] <doms> 1.5.
[03:19] <stevietool> monomaniacpat: when you do sudo ifup wlan0 it works?
[03:19] <watsont4> guem: that worked
[03:19] <doms> 1.5.0.2
[03:19] <watsont4> im online now
[03:20] <doms> 1.5.0.2
[03:20] <watsont4> thanks very much :)
[03:20] <doms> firefox 1.5.0.2
[03:20] <monomaniacpat> stevietool: I've been using network settings dialogue
[03:20] <watsont4> however im still a bit stuck as to how to actually fix the problem
[03:20] <_jason> doms: that is the latest firefox
[03:20] <guem> watsont4: would you try one more thing?
[03:20] <doms> no flash
[03:20] <watsont4> guem: yeah sounds good
[03:20] <guem> watsont4: ifconfig eth0 down; dhclient eth1
[03:20] <watsont4> right
[03:20] <_jason> doms: ok, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:20] <doms> how i can install the plug-in
[03:20] <guem> watsont4: maybe it interferes with eth1's ip-space
[03:20] <doms> dapper drake
[03:21] <guem> ShortChange: sorry then :)
[03:21] <_jason> doms: dapper questions should be asked in #ubuntu+1 please
[03:21] <ShortChange> guem, :)
[03:21] <doms> i nstalled already the plug-in but seems the flash doesnt work correctly
[03:21] <_jason> doms: if you join me there, I can help you troubleshoot the problem
[03:21] <guem> ShortChange: i don't know this error but it points to DNS, right? ;)
[03:22] <watsont4> guem: no joy :(
[03:22] <ShortChange> guem, i get it on both of the boxes i just installed ubuntu on
[03:22] <whiter> whats the package name of ubuntu's archive manager?
[03:22] <guem> ShortChange: same internet connection? :)
[03:22] <watsont4> its a very strange
[03:22] <guem> watsont4: weird.. maybe re-installing dhclient helps?
[03:22] <ShortChange> guem, even with the net disconnected same error
[03:22] <watsont4> im going to try an full upgrade and see if that fixes things
[03:22] <watsont4> cause it broke when i was trying to upgrade
[03:23] <watsont4> perhaps it might do the reverse!
[03:23] <guem> watsont4: good luck
[03:23] <stevietool> monomaniacpat: can you try the command : sudo ifup wlan0 in a terminal?
[03:23] <watsont4> guem: thanks
[03:23] <watsont4> guem: and thanks for the help!
[03:23] <watsont4> take care all
[03:23] <whiter> anyone know what the package name is of the archive manager?
[03:24] <guem> ShortChange: google found 4! pages for that error.....
[03:24] <ShortChange> guem, yeah been there....no help
[03:24] <ShortChange> guem, i dont like asking for help, i always use google first
[03:24] <jbzz> Problem: with PostgreSQL 8.0.3  using pgAdmin3  and Ubuntu 5.10  while using the Query Tool my cursor will often change to a plus sign with a 90 degree angle above and to the left of the plus.  The cursor moves but I cannot click anything.  The keyboard often becomes unresponsive.
[03:25] <_jason> whiter: try something like ``file roller''
[03:25] <guem> ShortChange: ah.. remove that "the" :)
[03:25] <monomaniacpat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13063
[03:25] <ShortChange> guem, huh?
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> whiter: file-roller
[03:26] <whiter> ty
[03:26] <whiter> server install comes with none of this
[03:26] <whiter> heh
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> whiter: probably because there is no gui with the server install :)
[03:26] <stevietool> probably
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> whiter: you could just try ubuntu-desktop -- I think that should fix everything in one fell swoop
[03:27] <whiter> good idea
[03:27] <whiter> erm no itll try to install gnome nevermind
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> file-roller needs gnome anyway
[03:28] <doms> what is the pastbin site
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> "File-roller is an archive manager for the GNOME environment"
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> !tell doms about pastebin
[03:28] <whiter> no it doesnt
[03:28] <whiter> its working in xfce just fine fyrestrtr
[03:28] <roryy> whiter: other than libgtk2 and libgnome ? ;)
[03:28] <stevietool> monomaniacpat: what does the command give?
[03:29] <monomaniacpat> stevietool: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13063
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> whiter: oh you are using xfce? You can install its own file manager.
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> whiter: its called thundar or something
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> sorry thunar not thundar.
[03:30] <crunchyfish> ok, i did an md5 check and the iso is supposedly fine
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> can anyone recommend a good, solid 30 port switch?
[03:31] <ShortChange> fyrestrtr, cisco
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> need more than short change for cisco
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> any particular model?
[03:31] <ShortChange> fyrestrtr, once sec
[03:32] <stevietool> monomaniacpat: hmm it's the right name of the interface you've put in the interface-config
[03:32] <monomaniacpat> right...?
[03:32] <roryy> crunchyfish: there's also a md5sum file in the root directory of the CD -- you could use that to do a check of the burn
[03:32] <ShortChange> fyrestrtr, what is your budget?
[03:32] <stevietool> the interface name is ok
[03:33] <monomaniacpat> OK... no ideas?
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> ShortChange: < $1500 -- but I really don't know what it should be because I have never actually gone shopping for something like this.
[03:33] <roryy> crunchyfish: something like 'md5sum --check md5sum.txt' (can't remember the exact filename)
[03:34] <ShortChange> fyrestrtr, then you can afford a like 8 port cisco switch hehe
[03:34] <stevietool> I thought when you put auto wlan0 in your config on top of it ..it should do the job, maybe someone else can help you out
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> ShortChange: lol ... what do they cost?
[03:34] <monomaniacpat> Alright, thanks anyway. About time I stopped anyway!
[03:34] <Alex> foldingstock: I bought a 24 port switch cisco for 299, excellent built quality, too.
[03:34] <guem> monomaniacpat: what's the problem?
[03:34] <monomaniacpat> Could you link me back to the output I gave earlier?
[03:35] <fyrestrtr> Alex: used?
[03:35] <monomaniacpat> guem: I;
[03:35] <ShortChange> fyrestrtr, like 20K
[03:35] <Alex> er, sorry foldingstock
[03:35] <Alex> fyrestrtr: No - new. Only 100T, but that's all we needed for the time.
[03:35] <stevietool> when I want to autostart a wlan during booting what should you give up in the config.
[03:35] <monomaniacpat> guem: I'm trying to get my wireless card loaded at boot up
[03:35] <fyrestrtr> ShortChange: 0_0 what?
[03:35] <ShortChange> fyrestrtr, im exaduraging more like 15K
[03:35] <guem> monomaniacpat: with a certain configuration? edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:36] <monomaniacpat> guem: that's what me and stevietool were doing
[03:36] <Alex> fyrestrtr: You can pick up a 24 port gigabit switch for 130 from ebuyer.com (3com)
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> $15,000 -- for a 30 port switch? The server doesn't cost that much!
[03:36] <guem> monomaniacpat: and what problem occured?
[03:36] <Da_Putzler> Hi guys, can I ask a quick question reg. 6.06 beta 1 Ubuntu Live CD
[03:36] <ShortChange> fyrestrtr, look into linksys
[03:36] <Alex> Da_Putzler: might want #ubuntu+1
[03:36] <Da_Putzler> thx :)
[03:36] <monomaniacpat> guem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13062 - this doesn't do it
[03:37] <guem> HP ProCurve seem to be versatile multi-port switches
[03:37] <monomaniacpat> the card doesn't load
[03:38] <guem> monomaniacpat: well this is only the interfaces-file.. where is the error ?
[03:38] <stevietool> no doesn't load on startup
[03:39] <crufdjsd> i've read that disabling acpi can help with lockups during install. is there any downside to disabling it and how do i access the boot command line before installing?
[03:39] <guem> monomaniacpat: any dmesg-output while it trys to activate the interface ?
[03:40] <stevietool> dmesg |grep wlan0
[03:40] <whiter> wow
[03:40] <whiter> um, how can i see what network interface im currently using?
[03:41] <whiter> cant remember it
[03:41] <OffHand> anyone know about compiling stuff?
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> crufdjsd: acpi is power management, you can safely disable it during install -- but don't do it unless you are having lockups.
[03:41] <kronoz> ifconfig
[03:41] <monomaniacpat> no output from that command, guys
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> monomaniacpat: ifconfig
[03:41] <kronoz> OffHand, ./configure; make; make install
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> monomaniacpat: how many interfaces do you see?
[03:41] <OffHand> lol, I know that much
[03:41] <OffHand> :)
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> OffHand: what is the question?
[03:41] <monomaniacpat> three: eth0, lo, wlan0
[03:41] <kronoz> OffHand, well whats your problem?
[03:41] <OffHand> im trying to compile gdesklets but get this error
[03:42] <OffHand> configure: error: Package requirements (pygtk-2.0 >= 2 .4.0 pyorbit-2 >= 2.0.1 gnome-python-2.0 >= 2.6.0) were not met.
[03:42] <OffHand> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[03:42] <OffHand> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[03:42] <guem> monomaniacpat: what does ifconfig wlan0 say after startup ?
[03:42] <fyrestrtr> OffHand: firstly, any reason you are not installing the version that's in apt?
[03:42] <kronoz> if i do `sudo command1 && command2` with command2 be  run as the user or as sudo root?
[03:42] <OffHand> it doesn't work
[03:43] <_jason> kronoz: user
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> kronoz: as user
[03:43] <kronoz> ok
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> OffHand: sure it does, I'm using it :)
[03:43] <OffHand> wanna make a bet?
[03:43] <mt3_> Hi guys
[03:43] <monomaniacpat> guem: at what point?
[03:43] <kronoz> OffHand, can you not find a deb?
[03:43] <mt3_> Just installed Ubuntu 5.10 on my old Toshiba laptop
[03:43] <OffHand> I tried everything, it doesn't work here
[03:43] <mt3_> It recognised the Intel wireless and stuff all fine which is cool
[03:44] <guem> monomaniacpat: after startup.. when it should be enabled automatically :)
[03:44] <mt3_> But I can't get sound to work
[03:44] <kronoz> mt3_: sudo alsaconf
[03:44] <mt3_> k 1sec
[03:44] <monomaniacpat> guem: where then?
[03:44] <ShortChange> are there any "tricks" to making ubuntu less memory intencive...i just installed it on a old celeron 256 mb
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> OffHand: how do you know it doesn't work?
[03:44] <aeolist> ShortChange: no tricks, just straight forward stuff... check the wiki
[03:45] <varsendagger> hey wha ti s that tool i need to complie things and be able to remove them later?
[03:45] <roryy> ShortChange: use a different graphical environment (e.g., xfce instead of gnome)
[03:45] <fyrestrtr> ShortChange: first trick -- remove gnome and go with something else like fluxbox or xfce. Second trick, disable any services you are not using (use BUM for that)
[03:45] <guem> monomaniacpat: just type /etc/init.d/networking restart and check what it says or how wlan0 is set
[03:45] <ShortChange> roryy, how do i uninstall gnome and install xfce?
[03:46] <OffHand> fyrestrtr, It does work if I type gdesklets but I cannot move the applet I started.
[03:46] <OffHand> I can move it after I restarted it but once I configured it, it will lock to that place.
[03:46] <OffHand> Even restart doesn't work. I also tried to remove my .gdesklets folder.
[03:46] <OffHand> When I try a pop3 desklet I also get an error.
[03:46] <apokryphos> ShortChange: remove some vital gnome lib, then install xubuntu-desktop
[03:46] <mt3_> alsaconf: command not found
[03:46] <roryy> !tell ShortChange about xfce
[03:46] <gnomefreak> ShortChange: keep gnome and just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:46] <varsendagger> !makeclean
[03:46] <ubotu> varsendagger: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:46] <apokryphos> mt3_: it's alsactl or something isn't it?
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> OffHand: how are you trying to move it?
[03:46] <ShortChange> royy thanks
[03:46] <ShortChange> roryy, thanks
[03:46] <OffHand> middle mouse or right click > move
[03:46] <monomaniacpat> It just says OK....
[03:47] <roryy> ShortChange: unless you have hard-disk space limitations, i'd just leave gnome there. It only uses memory when it's running
[03:47] <ShortChange> roryy, id prefer to remove it if possible, hd is pretty small
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> OffHand: do you get the gdesklet icon on the top panel?
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> ShortChange: I recommend to install the minimal server install, then just install the stuff you need, instead of trying to uninstall stuff later.
[03:47] <guem> monomaniacpat: then check if wlan0 is configured correctly
[03:47] <monomaniacpat> Although, when I forgot to put in sudo, it said.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13065
[03:48] <ice-t> hi! can somebody help me to activate mysql-support for php5?
[03:48] <guem> monomaniacpat: you have to sudo that command
[03:48] <roryy> ShortChange: i think someone gave a suggestion for trying to remove it.  Another option is to use something like deborphan, which tries to be clever about removing groups of packages.
[03:48] <OffHand> fyres.... yes I do
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> ice-t: sudo apt-get install php5-mysql
[03:48] <guem> monomaniacpat: but this init-script is executed at startup.. if it works fine it will work fine at startup :)
[03:48] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: already installed
[03:48] <monomaniacpat> I know, but the output for when I didn't revealed more info - is that anything useful?
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> OffHand: and does that work, ie, can you bring up the gdesklets shell?
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> ice-t: then?
[03:48] <OffHand> that's right
[03:48] <roryy> ShortChange: i'd guess the saving will be a few hundred MB only, though
[03:48] <ice-t> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/prrv/php/check.php on line 15
[03:48] <mt3_> I try alsactl and it says alsactl: specify command...
[03:49] <fyrestrtr> OffHand: could be a problem with the desklet.
[03:49] <fyrestrtr> ice-t: what version of mysql?
[03:49] <OffHand> no, a lot of them are buggy
[03:49] <subsinker> Anyone who's used to XServer layouts?
[03:49] <fyrestrtr> OffHand: and this is from the stock gdesklets? The one from apt?
[03:49] <OffHand> yep
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> OffHand: you cannot launch it from the menu, just the command line?
[03:50] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: 4
[03:50] <mt3_> When I go onto the sound thing it recognises my sound card so that can't be the problem
[03:50] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: http://pastebin.com/688579
[03:50] <OffHand> actually both work
[03:50] <shao_lo> can anyone tell me how to make the libXext.so shared object failure crash go away in firefox on dapper beta?
[03:50] <wahjava> help required in building deb packages
[03:50] <mt3_> When I try to use the volume control it says there is nothing to control and there isn't the right GStreamer plugins or something
[03:50] <wahjava> I'm not getting manpage of my application, after installing it
[03:51] <wahjava> it is also not included in the .deb package
[03:51] <fyrestrtr> shao_lo: I'm sure people in #ubuntu+1 can help you
[03:51] <shao_lo> thanks
[03:51] <wahjava> anybody ??
[03:51] <guem> wahjava: maybe it doesnt have one? :)
[03:52] <monomaniacpat> It doesn't work on startup, so any ideas guem?
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> ice-t: <?php phpinfo(); ?> <-- what does this show you?
[03:52] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: mom
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> monomaniacpat: what is the output of /etc/modules ?
[03:52] <wahjava> guem: I've place my manpage in debian/manpage.1
[03:52] <mt3_> Anyone?
[03:52] <guem> monomaniacpat: what does ifconfig wlan0 say right now ?
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> monomaniacpat: cat /etc/modules
[03:52] <aeolist> mt3_: there is a stupid little menu at administration or something
[03:52] <aeolist> have you checked that?
[03:53] <ShortChange> roryy, i cant find the package, does it come with ubuntu?
[03:53] <wahjava> guem: Am I doing wrong ?? I've followed Debian New Maintainer's Guide
[03:53] <mt3_> Yeah
[03:53] <monomaniacpat> fyrestrtr: I don't have modules, only modutils
[03:53] <mt3_> I checked that and it shows up my Intel sound card and everything
[03:53] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: a lot. do you want me to forward the port that you can take a look on it?
[03:53] <guem> wahjava: sorry, dont know
[03:53] <wahjava> guem: OK no problem ;)
[03:53] <picca> does ubuntu dapper support WPA-PSK encryption out of the box?
[03:53] <roryy> ShortChange: it's available from the network repository of software
[03:54] <roryy> !tell ShortChange about synaptic
[03:54] <roryy> !tell ShortChange about repos
[03:54] <monomaniacpat> guem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13066
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> ice-t: just scroll down till you see something about MySQL
[03:54] <toxic_> How do I catch the error dump being performed while I'm in tty1 that causes the computer to hang ? It's a kernel panic error message printed to the console, and then the comp. hangs. strace doesn't seem capable to catch the information. I need to log it.
[03:54] <roryy> ShortChange: all that should tell you how to install software from the repositories
[03:54] <roryy> ShortChange: sorry for the information dump; let us know if there's anything you don't understand
[03:54] <wahjava> anybody who can help be in building debian  packages ??
[03:54] <ayabara> can windows read from and write to ext3 formatted drives?
[03:54] <mt3_> Anyone has any other ideas?
[03:54] <wahjava> Or this is not the right place, hmm... ??
[03:55] <guem> monomaniacpat: okay, it is set to something AND it is up and running.. is it set correct?
[03:55] <highvoltage> wahjava: are you learning for the first time?
[03:55] <monomaniacpat> guem: what do you mean? What do you want me to check?
[03:55] <wahjava> highvoltage: this is my first package
[03:55] <guem> ayabara: it always says "you have to format the drive. format now?" :)
[03:55] <sorush20> hi guys
[03:55] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8387/db5sq.jpg
[03:55] <highvoltage> wahjava: you might want to check out debian.org, and click on the developers corner
[03:56] <fyrestrtr> monomaniacpat: you should create /etc/modules, then add the module for your wireless there so that its loaded on startup, and the system can initialize the card. I think that's the problem.
[03:56] <highvoltage> wahjava: there's a new maintainers guide there, i think
[03:56] <wahjava> highvoltage: From there I got New Maintainer's guide, and I've followed it
[03:56] <G0SUB> wahjava: Ashish?
[03:56] <mt3_> ?
[03:56] <guem> monomaniacpat: well it says that is is set to 192.168.1.2 .. is that the correct address?
[03:56] <monomaniacpat> sounds ok
[03:56] <wahjava> G0SUB: hi
[03:56] <wahjava> G0SUB: seems a bit BASIC
[03:56] <guem> fyrestrtr: he didnt do any modprobe manually, did he?
[03:56] <G0SUB> wahjava: come to #ubuntu-in
[03:56] <ayabara> guem: doesn't sound good...
[03:56] <wahjava> G0SUB: OK
[03:56] <monomaniacpat> is fyrestrtr's idea a good one?
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> ice-t: no, you should have something alone that has to do with MySQL.
[03:57] <guem> monomaniacpat: okay, your card is set after startup and it looks good (you just said that) .. where is the problem?
[03:57] <funkyHat> When can we start ordering from shipit for dapper?
[03:57] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: the term "mysql" does not appere here a second time
[03:57] <guem> monomaniacpat: no connection?
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> ice-t: restart apache
[03:57] <toxic_> How do I catch the error dump being performed while I'm in tty1 that causes the computer to hang ? It's a kernel panic error message printed to the console, and then the comp. hangs. strace doesn't seem capable to catch the information. I need to log it.
[03:57] <kbrooks> funkyHat: in may
[03:58] <monomaniacpat> guem: When I start my computer the card doesn't have the network light on/ wireless connection is not listed under network settings
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> toxic_: anything in /var/log/messages ?
[03:58] <funkyHat> kbrooks, so when dapper is released?
[03:58] <sorush20> how do I get specific website to show up on the computer with my prefered font? http://www.message-of-god.com/Proof%20of%20the%20Quran.htm
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> !dapper
[03:58] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[03:58] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: the same (i restarted apache about 20 times already)
[03:58] <kbrooks> funkyHat: no.
[03:58] <[nige] > i am trying to patch mplayer but i am getting the following root@zeus:/Down/Mplayer# patch -p1 -i /Down/Mplayer/mplayer-dvdnav-patch/navmplayer.patch
[03:58] <guem> monomaniacpat: and ifconfig wlan0 says nothing then.. okay then fyrestrtr is right i guess
[03:58] <[nige] > missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch
[03:58] <[nige] > can't find file to patch at input line 3
[03:58] <[nige] > Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
[03:58] <[nige] > The text leading up to this was:
[03:58] <[nige] > --------------------------
[03:58] <[nige] > |--- Makefile   2006-04-04 08:48:14.000000000 +0200
[03:58] <mt3_> Anyone have any other ideas?
[03:58] <[nige] > |+++ Makefile   2006-04-11 20:13:58.000000000 +0200
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> ice-t: are you using php4 and php5?
[03:58] <[nige] > --------------------------
[03:58] <[nige] > File to patch:
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> !ops
[03:58] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[03:58] <toxic_> fyrestrtr, nope, it seems the system doesn't have time to write the logs before hanging.
[03:58] <kbrooks> funkyHat: its called "preorder"
[03:58] <[nige] > anyone able to help?
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> [nige] : please don't flood!
[03:58] <ayabara> I read something about en ext2/3 filesystem driver for windows. is that no good?
[03:58] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: only 5
[03:59] <kbrooks> [nige] : no. you have sinned
[03:59] <[nige] > sorry
[03:59] <[nige] > :)
[03:59] <fyrestrtr> ice-t: you have modules installed for php4 also according to your pastebin
[03:59] <[nige] > did not mean to flood
[03:59] <kbrooks> LOL Seveas :-)
[03:59] <monomaniacpat> fyrestrtr: what should I do after creating the directory /etc/modules? step by step if you would
[03:59] <apokryphos> [nige] : /msg ubotu pastebin
[03:59] <kbrooks> Seveas: so you're back, eh?
[03:59] <Seveas> [nige] , don't talk bollocks, if you didn't mean to flood, ypu wouldn't have flooded...
[03:59] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: i thougth that i deinstalled everything that has "php4" in the name
[04:00] <[nige] > Seveas, if i meant to flood, i would have written a flood script :P
[04:00] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: and php4-mysql is not installed any more
[04:00] <fyrestrtr> monomaniacpat: /etc/ is the directory, modules is a filename.
[04:01] <fyrestrtr> monomaniacpat: sudo echo "ipw2200" >> /etc/modules <-- run that
[04:01] <monomaniacpat> OK... so what do I do then - how do I make this file?
[04:01] <guem> monomaniacpat: edit the FILE /etc/modules ... then add the module-name for the wireless-card in a new line
[04:01] <guem> monomaniacpat: it already exists
[04:02] <monomaniacpat> that command provokes: permission denied, even with sudo!
[04:02] <fyrestrtr> ice-t: you sure php4-mysql is not installed?
[04:02] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: mom, i will purge it
[04:02] <[nige] > http://pastebin.com/688597
[04:02] <[nige] > theres the output, now dont kickme for pasting a link.....
[04:02] <raptros-v76> so whats the problem?
[04:02] <guem> monomaniacpat: sudo gedit /etc/modules
[04:03] <monomaniacpat> OK, how do I tel it which modules to load?
[04:03] <monomaniacpat> they're currently in my home directory
[04:03] <erUSUL> [nige] : maybe is -p0 not -p1
[04:04] <[nige] > erUSUL,  I have tried a few...all the same
[04:04] <guem> monomaniacpat: you did make install, right?
[04:04] <monomaniacpat> yes
[04:04] <guem> monomaniacpat: then it is globally available and the module-name should be enough
[04:04] <ice-t> fyrestrtr: now the config-files are killed, the problem exists anyway
[04:04] <monomaniacpat> I think so, it was a few days ago - how can I tell
[04:04] <monomaniacpat> ?
[04:04] <simonpca> [nige] : no, you cannot be kicked for pasting a link, beause in the topic of the channel, "Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ "
[04:05] <guem> monomaniacpat: just add the name of the module (you probably did modprobe <module_name> before)
[04:06] <monomaniacpat> guem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13068 - does this mean I haven't make installed?
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> monomaniacpat: its probably ipw2200
[04:06] <metalhedd> I want to build mplayer with amr support, which apparently requires it to be recompiled, when I recompiole it though, I dont get nearly as many features as the pre-packaged mplayer has. only 4 video output methods. etc.
[04:06] <metalhedd> is there a way to compile it with the same settings at the deb?
[04:07] <guem> monomaniacpat: not the file.. there sould be a name for the module
[04:07] <fyrestrtr> metalhedd: ./configure --help should tell you what options you can supply
[04:07] <monomaniacpat> guem: how do I find it out?
[04:07] <fyrestrtr> monomaniacpat: paste the output of lsmod
[04:08] <guem> is there a INSTALL/README in the driver directory ?
[04:08] <fyrestrtr> ice-t: I don't know about your problem, sorry. I know on mine it worked because I never did install anything php4 related.
[04:10] <fyrestrtr> guem: is he using a custom compiled module for his wireless?
[04:10] <guem> fyrestrtr: i guess so.. he did make install at some point
[04:10] <fyrestrtr> guem: should have used modules-install :(
[04:10] <fyrestrtr> because I don't think he installed the module at the right spot.
[04:10] <Manifold> Guys, is there a bash command for listing the amount of RAM I have?
[04:11] <fyrestrtr> Manifold: cat /proc/meminfo
[04:11] <fyrestrtr> Manifold: or top
[04:11] <erUSUL> Manifold: free o top
[04:11] <gnomefreak> Manifold: top
[04:11] <erUSUL> *or*
[04:11] <Manifold> How do I make my terminal window full screen without using a mouse?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> the good thing theres more than one command for allot of things in linux
[04:12] <gnomefreak> ctrl+ + i think
[04:12] <gnomefreak> ctrl+shift+ plus sign
[04:12] <monomaniacpat> fyrestrtr: the output of the lsmod relevant - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13070
[04:12] <picca> does dapper support WPA?
[04:12] <fyrestrtr> Manifold: if you like pretty stats, you can always install phpsysinfo, or cacti or something else that's a reporting engine.
[04:12] <gnomefreak> exit
[04:13] <gnomefreak> q
[04:13] <Manifold> fyrestrtr: I'm trying to make linux work on an i486
[04:13] <Seveas> picca, yes
[04:13] <fyrestrtr> Manifold: okay? :)
[04:13] <Manifold> fyrestrtr: And my mouse doesn't work because I only have one 5DIN socket in the back.
[04:14] <fyrestrtr> monomaniacpat: your module is called ieee80211_r8180
[04:14] <picca> Seveas: does the network manager support WPA without tweaking anything
[04:14] <monomaniacpat> will fyrestrtr and g be online in an hour?
[04:14] <cabloz> is there a command that shows your distro version?
[04:14] <fyrestrtr> cabloz: uname -a
[04:14] <erUSUL> cabloz: cat /etc/lsb-release
[04:15] <monomaniacpat> fyrestrtr: I added iee... to etc/modules - right?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> cabloz: lsb_release -a
[04:15] <guem> monomaniacpat: online yes, dunno if i read you :)
[04:15] <monomaniacpat> that will do it all?
[04:15] <cabloz> thanks
[04:15] <Manifold> Can you buy a 5DIN splitter?
[04:15] <Manifold> Or does 5DIN not allow such a thing?
[04:15] <monomaniacpat> ok, I'll give that a go and let you know in an hour - assuming, fyrestrtr, that that is all as it should be - ?
[04:16] <fyrestrtr> monomaniacpat: /etc/modules etc/modules is not /etc/modules -- make sure you add it on the right spot!
[04:16] <mbuf> on ubuntu dapper beta, while trying to login as root, i get "failed to run synaptic: wrong password"; my root password is correct when i use it in the terminal - what is wrong ?
[04:16] <Wibble-> I know I am probably being exceptionally stupid... but I'm trying to find out exactly which characters are permitted in the local part of an email address... Can anyone tell me what they are?
[04:17] <monomaniacpat> fyrestrtr: you mean I should gedit etc/modules? not /etc/modules?
[04:17] <aurelienlehun> moi je suis en train de mater inside man en tc c sympa
[04:17] <gnomefreak> !fr
[04:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:17] <aurelienlehun> dsl salut a tous erreur de chan
[04:18] <raptros-v76> but i dont know what was said
[04:18] <raptros-v76> i failed french 2
[04:18] <raptros-v76> and switched to latin 1
[04:18] <guem> monomaniacpat: no the way around
[04:18] <guem> monomaniacpat: /etc/modules is the right place
[04:18] <sonic> hey, can anyone tell me how to log in as root in the terminal?  I cant remember =(
[04:18] <fyrestrtr> !tell sonic about root
[04:19] <fyrestrtr> sonic: sudo [enter command here]  is the shortcut to run a command as root
[04:19] <fyrestrtr> okay, brb
[04:19] <monomaniacpat> OK *restarts* see you in an hour or so
[04:20] <raptros-v76> did you fix the dns timout?
[04:20] <Seveas> picca, depends on your driver
[04:21] <gnomefreak> gm Seveas
[04:22] <raptros-v76> gnomefreak: if you look at the conf file for sometihng or other, there is a commented out line: timout 3
[04:22] <imc_> Hi, is there a gnome equivalent of Klipper
[04:22] <gnomefreak> raptros-v76: huh?
[04:23] <Manifold> Wibble- : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_address
[04:23] <raptros-v76> gnomefreak: does it hang up on configure network interfaces
[04:23] <raptros-v76> it takes a while?
[04:23] <Wibble-> thanks Manifold
[04:23] <gnomefreak> raptros-v76: you lost me im not having issues
[04:23] <raptros-v76> ok
[04:23] <Manifold> Wibble- : Wikipedia is your friend.
[04:24] <Wibble-> Manifold, I know - I just MUST get used to looking on it first... sometimes google shows it up, but if google doesn't, I don't tend to look!
[04:24] <Wibble-> thanks though :)
[04:24] <imc_> Anyone know a gnome equivalent of Klipper?
[04:24] <erUSUL> !tell imc_ about repeat
[04:24] <Manifold> Wibble- : No problem. :]  Why do you want to know?
[04:25] <Manifold> !bootcamp
[04:25] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Manifold
[04:25] <Manifold> Heh.
[04:25] <imc_> erUSUL, thanks very much but I thought I would rephrase
[04:25] <Rorviker> I have created a raid5 array with mdadm, my cpu is running around 50% all the time and it's become really slow. Anyone know a solution for this ?
[04:25] <Wibble-> Manifold, I'm writing something which needs a cookie with an email and other info in.  I figured I should just choose a non-email permitted char for the separation of this info
[04:25] <erUSUL> imc_: no problem. what exactly does klipper in kde?
[04:25] <imc_> clip board manager
[04:26] <gnomefreak> erUSUL: its a clipboard app
[04:26] <Manifold> Ok, Wibble-. Cool.
[04:26] <gnomefreak> im blanking on the name of one in gnome
[04:26] <Manifold> Guys, is it usual for an i486 to have 14mb of ram?
[04:26] <imc_> gnomefreak, me too :) I'll head back to google for a bit
[04:27] <guem> Manifold: my router is an 80486 with 12mb
[04:27] <tsw> Manifold: I had 486 with 32mb
[04:27] <Manifold> guem: Guess the 8/16/32/64 pattern kind of breaks down then..
[04:28] <raptros-v76> ram can be added to anyway, (i think)
[04:28] <Manifold> Would a PS/2 Y-adaptor work with a 5DIN>PS/2 adaptor?
[04:28] <RootSnatch> hey guys
[04:28] <aurelienlehun> kuchiki t la
[04:28] <tsw> Manifold: 8+4 is 12
[04:28] <RootSnatch> what is the linux version of ipconfig /all in windows?
[04:28] <imc_> tsw can you prove that?
[04:28] <RootSnatch> can anyone help me?
[04:28] <Manifold> tsw: ^^
[04:28] <slackern> RootSnatch: ifconfig?
[04:29] <tsw> usually four simms, so 4+4 and 2+2
[04:29] <RootSnatch> slackern: yes but I then want the dns servers that I am connecting to
[04:29] <tsw> imc_: I can prove it wrong :)
[04:29] <imc_> ^^
[04:29] <sonic> guys, I'm trying to browse to a directory on my hardrive through the console, and its saying that it doesnt exsist, but it does
[04:29] <slackern> RootSnatch: ahh check out /etc/resolv.conf
[04:29] <guem> RootSnatch: ifconfig , cat /etc/resolv.conf, route -v
[04:29] <rocky> zz
[04:29] <sonic>  /tmp/disks-conf-hda1/Documents and Settings/
[04:30] <Manifold> The spaces are giving you problem, I think.
[04:30] <sonic> when I browse to /tmp/disks-conf-hda1/  and type "ls"   "Documents and Settings" shows up fine
[04:30] <raptros-v76> is /tmp even on the hardrive?
[04:30] <Manifold> Tried tabbing after you type docu, sonic?
[04:30] <raptros-v76> then "cd Documents\ and
[04:30] <sonic> ah
[04:30] <raptros-v76> then "cd Documents\ and\ Settings"
[04:30] <sonic> I didnt realise I could do that outwith quake 3, lol
[04:31] <raptros-v76> without quotes
[04:31] <Manifold> Outwith quake?
[04:31] <falcon3> Anyone know how to enable TV OUT with S Video on my ubuntu laptop with Ati Mobility Radeon 9700 ?
[04:31] <simonpca> sonic: try cd /tmp/disks-conf-hda1/"Document And Settings"
[04:31] <sonic> nah, tab doesnt seem to work, just gives me a system beep
[04:31] <Manifold> !bsd
[04:31] <ubotu> Manifold: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:32] <rocky> okay I'm outta here cya all later
[04:32] <Manifold> Same.
[04:35] <markl> is anyone here familiar with the forcedeth driver & gigabit
[04:35] <sonic> sorry guys, compiz froze my screen for a long time there
[04:35] <sonic> just trying what simonpca suggested now
[04:36] <simonpca> sonic: on unix systems, arguments are separated by.. spaces
[04:37] <sonic> try cd /tmp/disks-conf-hda1/"Document And Settings" didnt work, it just gives me ">"
[04:37] <sonic> obviously without the "try"
[04:38] <tourent> if you're going to use an old machine as an X client in Ubuntu, do you just do the "server" installs on each client?
[04:38] <sonic> is there any way to overcome the spacing issue then?
[04:38] <XiXaQ> if I install the live-cd to harddrive, will the system be very slow, or approximately the same as installing the system using the installation cd?
[04:38] <kingspawn> XiXaQ: the latter
[04:38] <bimberi> sonic: put the while path in the double quotes
[04:39] <XiXaQ> kingspawn, is it very difficult?
[04:39] <kingspawn> XiXaQ: no, you should manage :)
[04:39] <whiter> anyone use xfce?
[04:40] <gnomefreak> whiter: yes sometimes
[04:40] <whiter> how can i permanently remove the second taskbar at the top of the screen
[04:40] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[04:40] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[04:40] <sonic> bimberi:  I just get -bash: cd: /tmp/disks-conf-hda1/Documents: No such file or directory
[04:40] <XiXaQ> kingspawn, I can't use the installation cd, you see. It stops. But live-cd works just fine, so I thought I'd try that.
[04:40] <gnomefreak> whiter: right click it and remove?
[04:41] <gnomefreak> whiter: you mean the menu bar at top?
[04:41] <whiter> yea
[04:42] <bimberi> sonic: are you using: cd "/tmp/disks-conf-hda1/Document And Settings"   ?
[04:42] <kingspawn> XiXaQ: sounds smart
[04:42] <gnomefreak> whiter: im assuming right click it and remove panel or something along those lines (not in xfce atm) and why do you have that in breezy?
[04:42] <whiter> what xfce?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> whiter: xfce with breezy has the menu bar at top?
[04:43] <tourent> does gdm come standard with the server install?
[04:43] <whiter> yes gnomefreak.
[04:43] <gnomefreak> tourent: no no gui is installed with server install
[04:43] <gnomefreak> whiter: i thought that xfce 4 was only one with it
[04:44] <whiter> i did apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:44] <whiter> and it came with it
[04:44] <tourent> !tell tourent about VNC
[04:44] <sherz> Hi guys I would like to download a nice page about digitial photography and I tried to use wget -r www.nikonslrlearningcenter.com/  and it downloads a lot but there are still some .swf missing. How can I get all ?
[04:46] <XiXaQ> kingspawn, what filesystems should I use? There are so many :)
[04:46] <simonpca> XiXaQ: ext3
[04:46] <kingspawn> XiXaQ: ext3 is a good one :)
[04:46] <Seveas> sherz, wget -rp
[04:47] <FennyLAP> hey guys.. will linux add hard drives on the fly
[04:47] <FennyLAP> ?
[04:47] <FennyLAP> I have installed linux on a single drive.. now I wanna add two more
[04:47] <FennyLAP> cna I just plug em and reboot and it see em?
[04:48] <XiXaQ> hmm. Isn't it possible to set mountpoints in GParted?
[04:48] <kingspawn> FennyLAP: yes
[04:48] <FennyLAP> ok
[04:48] <FennyLAP> well then I kill two birds with one stone
[04:49] <kingspawn> XiXaQ: nope
[04:49] <XiXaQ> kingspawn, how do I do that?
[04:50] <kingspawn> XiXaQ: the installer should ask for these things
[04:50] <whiter> how can i see a list of packages used by ubuntu
[04:51] <Klohunt> Whenever I start mplayer I get the error: "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.tff)." Can anyone help me?
[04:51] <XiXaQ> kingspawn, is there an installer on live-cd?
[04:51] <|lostbyte|> i need to update my kernel.. what do i do ?
[04:51] <_jason> Klohunt: install mplayer-fonts package
[04:51] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (to pull newest kernel for your release)
[04:51] <_jason> whiter: are you using ubuntu or just interested?
[04:52] <bosco> 
[04:52] <whiter> im using ubuntu
[04:52] <whiter> but with xfce
[04:52] <Klohunt> _jason: thanks alot :D
[04:52] <_jason> whiter: apt-cache search, aptitude search, synaptic
[04:52] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: it will upgrade other applications too ?
[04:52] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: as long as you keep sources.list file the same it will only grab latest kernel for your build in your version
[04:52] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: yes
[04:52] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: i just want a specific kernel version ?
[04:53] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: kernel 2.6.16
[04:53] <bimberi> whiter: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[04:53] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: you will be compiling that one
[04:53] <Klohunt> I also installed mozilla-mplayer, but when I want to watch NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/nasa_gen/) I get the error "  	 Your browser does not have the necessary plug-ins to view the NASATV Viewer. Please click here for more options to watch NASA TV. "
[04:54] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: oh ! there is not precompiled version of it ?
[04:54] <doms> any filipino here
[04:54] <Klohunt> On my windows computer it streams to windows media player
[04:54] <Godis> Hello
[04:54] <Klohunt> shouldnt mplayer play it also?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: no
[04:54] <doms> any filipino here
[04:54] <Godis> Someone Swedish here?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> ubuntu doesnt offer 2.6.16
[04:54] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: dappers kernel is 2.6.15
[04:55] <Godis> I am looking for a site where I can download music...??
[04:55] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: and 16 ?
[04:55] <whiter> not here.
[04:55] <whiter> actually
[04:55] <andrewski> doms: #ubuntu-ph
[04:55] <whiter> Godis: www.itunes.com
[04:55] <bimberi> !se
[04:55] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[04:55] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: 16 is not offered by ubuntu
[04:55] <whiter> or... www.napster.com
[04:55] <whiter> :)
[04:55] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: is it safe compiling one from kernel.org ?
[04:55] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: you have to compile it
[04:55] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: if you know what your doing yes its fairly safe
[04:56] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: ok ! thanks..
[04:56] <CanadianSnow> how do I take out crap in my system that I dont need???
[04:56] <Godis> Thank you very much! =)
[04:56] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: before you do i have seen issues with 2.6.16 dont know if they are still there
[04:56] <_jason> CanadianSnow: sudo aptitude purge name_of_package
[04:56] <gnomefreak> ^^^ just a frienld warning ;)
[04:57] <CanadianSnow> ok, but how do I tell what I do and dont need?
[04:57] <gnomefreak> _jason: you can purge with aptitude?
[04:57] <_jason> gnomefreak: yep
[04:57] <gnomefreak> oh good i didnt think you could ;)
[04:57] <_jason> CanadianSnow: umm... that's entirely up to you to decide
[04:57] <doms> is their somebody can give me a t-shirt of ubuntu i cant afford to buy
[04:57] <doms> is their somebody can give me a t-shirt of ubuntu i cant afford to buy
[04:57] <roryy> doms: please don't repeat yourself
[04:57] <gnomefreak> doms: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:57] <_jason> doms: you don't have to type everything twice
[04:58] <CanadianSnow> ok.... where would be the best place to check what i have and remove it? package man?
[04:58] <roryy> CanadianSnow: synaptic
[04:58] <roryy> CanadianSnow: sorry, that was a bit cryptic. system -> administration -> synaptic
[04:59] <simonp> CanadianSnow: dpkg -l
[04:59] <CanadianSnow> ok... thx
[04:59] <_jason> CanadianSnow: what simonp said or you can use system > administration  > synaptic
[05:00] <Klohunt> When it comes time in June, will a dapper upgrade be able to keep allof the programs and configuration I have on 5.10?
[05:00] <Seveas> Klohunt, of course
[05:00] <gnomefreak> Klohunt: it should
[05:01] <Klohunt> Good :S
[05:01] <Reddragon> Can some one help me with applications menu editor?
[05:01] <gnomefreak> Reddragon: what is the issue with it?
[05:01] <_jason> Reddragon: best to just state your problem
[05:01] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: have you  patched a kernel before ?
[05:01] <Klick_> hey all, when you "update-rc.d app1 defaults" then updated-rc.d app2 defaults  will app 1 start before app 2 definantly? or do they both try to start at the same time or how does it work.
[05:01] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: nope
[05:01] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: ok
[05:02] <Reddragon> I can not add aegis to accessories even though it is ticked to be added
[05:03] <gnomefreak> Reddragon: killall gnome-panel
[05:03] <cluebie> hello I am brand new to ubunto and linux in general..I have a possibly silly question
[05:03] <_jason> cluebie: ask it :)
[05:03] <Reddragon> where do I do that from
[05:03] <cluebie> cool jason thanks...I am trying to get to a command line...how???
[05:03] <_jason> cluebie: applications > accessories > terminal
[05:03] <bosco> gnomefreak, so i have to compile the dapper kernal i thought i just left it alone and did my updates
[05:04] <bainer> it's called terminal in the menu
[05:04] <cluebie> cool thanks!
[05:04] <XiXaQ> there is no installer for live-cd.
[05:04] <cluebie> man I swear I clicked on everything but that..
[05:04] <roryy> Klick_: i believe the scripts in, say, /etc/rc2.d are run in string order (i.e., S10acpid runs before S20gdm) -- 'man update-rc.d' says the default number is 20. After that, it is probably alphabetical order.
[05:05] <XiXaQ> not in the boot-menu anyway.
[05:05] <bainer> anyone here have experiance with core duo chips and ubuntu? I know you have to use an SMP kernel, but do duo cores work as well in ubuntu as in windows?
[05:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bainer: better, if anything :)
[05:05] <bainer> haha, great
[05:05] <bainer> thanks
[05:05] <Reddragon> from a terminal window
[05:05] <gnomefreak> bosco: what me and |lostbyte| were talking about was not dappers kernel
[05:06] <gnomefreak> Reddragon: yes terminal type killall gnome-panel
[05:06] <Reddragon> completed now what?
[05:06] <Reddragon> and thank you.
[05:07] <gnomefreak> Reddragon: look see if it was added to menu
[05:08] <Reddragon> No it is not there.
[05:08] <sherz> No ideas with my wget -r problem ?
[05:08] <Reddragon> I added firestarter and that showed up.
[05:08] <cbx33> hi everyone
[05:08] <cbx33> anyone here use scribus?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> Reddragon: whats the name of the app you are trying to get to show up?
[05:10] <cluebie> one last question...does Ubuntu not come with ruby installed or am I doing something wrong to run my scripts?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> !info ruby
[05:10] <ubotu> ruby: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[05:10] <gnomefreak> cluebie: you have to install it
[05:11] <Reddragon> Virus Scanner
[05:11] <cluebie> ok no problem..thanks again...see ya
[05:11] <gnomefreak> Reddragon: the name of it?
[05:11] <Reddragon> aegis-virus-scanner
[05:11] <alex_> hey i have dapper installed on my shuttle xpc st20g5 i installed the nvidia drivers through synaptic and edited my xorg.conf to use the nvidia modules now when my computer boots and its about to load gdm it stops at the nvidia splash screen and i am able to reboot with ctrl alt and delete but i cant kill x wit a ctrl alt and backspace
[05:12] <CuriousCat> Has anyone tried using HDAUDIO SoftV92 Data Fax Modem with SmartCP on ubuntu?
[05:12] <gnomefreak> Reddragon: if its in smeg you should beable to add it if its not in smeg than likely not happening
[05:12] <alex_> i am also using an nvidia 6800gs pci express graphics cards
[05:12] <Reddragon> smeg?
[05:13] <gnomefreak> alex_: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[05:13] <gnomefreak> Reddragon: smeg is the breezy menu editor
[05:13] <CuriousCat> if so, how did you get the modem to work?
[05:13] <Reddragon> yes it is and the box is ticked off but is it not there can not seem to add it.
[05:14] <gnomefreak> Reddragon: look under system tolls
[05:14] <gnomefreak> tools in menu
[05:14] <XiXaQ> Will a 650 MB cd be sufficent for the dapper installation cd?
[05:14] <Reddragon> yes did that and is there and box checked off.
[05:15] <sonic> ok guys, I've finally managed to extract a file from the windows partition and put it on my desktop, now I just need to put it onto my usb drive, but I get the following problem    ""/home/soni...mV2.0.zip" cannot be copied because you do not have permissions to read it."
[05:15] <gnomefreak> Reddragon: uncheck it and recheck it or install alacarte ;)  im not real sure why its not adding it
[05:16] <Reddragon> tried all that. forgive me am new to most
[05:16] <gnomefreak> !alacarte
[05:16] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[05:16] <Reddragon> can you recommend a good virus scanner
[05:16] <Introvert> clamav
[05:16] <Kr0ntab> ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso = 618MB   /   647,129,088 b
[05:16] <kevin1> I just got ubuntu installed... and set a root password using sudo... I am trying to go to system-->Administration-->Networking and get promted for root password and it fails... I am however logged in from the shell using that password
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> Reddragon,  for what task?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:17] <Kr0ntab> should
[05:17] <Kr0ntab> barely
[05:17] <Reddragon> thanks
[05:17] <XiXaQ> Kr0ntab, is the other sum the size on cd?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> most of the virus scanners for linux.. are designed to find windows viruses in files.
[05:17] <Kr0ntab> nope.. output from ls -l
[05:17] <Kr0ntab> thats the size in bits
[05:18] <XiXaQ> Kr0ntab, ok. Will there be enough room on a 650MB cd?
[05:18] <Edgy_Eft> hi
[05:18] <guem> kevin1: you are prompted for the user password... it is using sudo
[05:18] <Kr0ntab> yeah... I believe so.  barely.
[05:18] <Reddragon> I installed firestarter fine. Do you suggest not worrying about virus or mail virus in linux?
[05:18] <Edgy_Eft> how can I deactivate my wlan pc card by console?
[05:19] <yggdrasil> sudo ifdown <interface>
[05:19] <Edgy_Eft> if i do ifdown wlan0 the service is down, but my card is blinking anyway
[05:19] <HymnToLife> Edgy_Eft> ifdown wlan0 <= or whatever the hell your WLAN interface name is
[05:19] <_jason> Reddragon: don't execute random files you dont trust and you are ok
[05:19] <hajuu_> hey how do I perminently disable a network device?
[05:19] <kevin1> guem what is the difference betwen sudo and regular su... I am switching from red hat so I am completely familar with su
[05:19] <Edgy_Eft> i want do deactivate it completely
[05:19] <hajuu_> since my eth0 is interfering with my dialup connection
[05:20] <hajuu_> and I have to disable it each time I go on the web, since I dont actually use it
[05:20] <Reddragon> thanks
[05:20] <eugman> what is the proc folder for?
[05:20] <Introvert> kevin1: sudo is to use a specific command as a superuser
[05:20] <Introvert> kevin1: Super User Do
[05:20] <Introvert> sudo command
[05:20] <Reddragon> I am looking for a linux mentor any one interested please email me candlevolt@suscom.net please
[05:21] <kevin1> why is it not asking for my root password
[05:21] <kevin1> and asking for my user password
[05:21] <MenZa> kevin1: use your standard password.
[05:21] <MenZa> !rootsudo
[05:21] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:21] <gnomefreak> Reddragon: we are here to help if you need anything please see #ubuntu
[05:21] <Introvert> kevin1: Because the default Ubuntu sudo config is set up like that I believe
[05:21] <Edgy_Eft> how can i unload the kernel modul for my wlan card?
[05:22] <Edgy_Eft> in a running system environment
[05:22] <Kr0ntab> http://www.courtesan.com/sudo/intro.html for info on sudo
[05:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Edgy_Eft: sudo modprobe -r modulename
[05:22] <kevin1> i will do some reading.. thanks
[05:22] <Hattori> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160726&page=2 keep getting this error, help please
[05:22] <MenZa> Ubuntu 15.1: Kuddly Koala
[05:22] <Edgy_Eft> i am looking for the modulename
[05:22] <MenZa> ;D
[05:22] <Kr0ntab> np kevin1
[05:22] <MenZa> (Yes, I know it's "Cuddly", damnit)
[05:22] <Edgy_Eft> dmesg dont list the modulname for my wlan card
[05:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Edgy_Eft: lsmod
[05:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Edgy_Eft: That lists all the loaded modules.
[05:24] <Edgy_Eft> i cant fint it
[05:24] <|Sivik|> hi all
[05:24] <Kr0ntab> Edgy_Eft, what type of card do you have?
[05:25] <feugan3333> Hi all. Has anyone got there mobile device to work over usb (such as copying file to you cell phone) on ubuntu?
[05:25] <Edgy_Eft> [4294802.654000]  eth1: 3Com 11 Mbps Wireless LAN PC Card, port 140, irq 5, hw_addr 00:04:76:A5:96:E7
[05:25] <Edgy_Eft> its working fine
[05:25] <Edgy_Eft> but i want do deactivate it by console
[05:25] <Introvert> feugan3333: Perhaps you have to mount your cell phone.
[05:25] <|Sivik|> anyone here use to the bcm drivers?
[05:25] <Kr0ntab> sudo ifdown eth1
[05:25] <guem> ifconfig <if> down
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> |Sivik|,  been trying to... no luck yet. :(
[05:26] <Edgy_Eft> ok...ifconfig eth1 down is correct
[05:26] <yggdrasil> is there some sort of web page interface to control iptables/monmontha firewall rules ?
[05:26] <Edgy_Eft> but my card ist blinking anyway
[05:26] <Edgy_Eft> and the service is shut down
[05:26] <|Sivik|> Dr: what kernel are you using?
[05:26] <Edgy_Eft> but my card is not deactivated
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> yggdrasil,  could always try webmin.
[05:26] <yggdrasil> hmmm...
[05:26] <feugan3333> Introvert: How do I find out what the device name is?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> |Sivik|,  not sure - the laptop is downstairs. the latest 386 one I think
[05:26] <HymnToLife> yggdrasil> firestarter
[05:26] <Kr0ntab> ifdown will also do things like a dhcp release... and shut down media access.. just as a side note
[05:26] <XiXaQ> If I install 5.04, is it possible to update the system to 5.10 or 6.06 automatically while the system is running?
[05:27] <slackern> Edgy_Eft: maybe you could check out /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add the module there?
[05:27] <yggdrasil> firestarter ?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> firestarter has a web interface?
[05:27] <DBO> XiXaQ, yes, but it will require a reboot
[05:27] <Introvert> feugan3333: try running dmesg after you plug it in, I don't have a cellphone but it probably uses an SCSI harddrive. You might want to try dmesg | grep /dev/sd*
[05:27] <Nogimics> yes it does Dr_Willis
[05:27] <slackern> Edgy_Eft: Then it shouldn't be loaded since it's blacklisted
[05:27] <XiXaQ> DBO, but will it require manual configuration on my part?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> heh - i just toyed with it.. never noticed that feature
[05:27] <DBO> XiXaQ, a couple clicks...
[05:27] <yggdrasil> thanks ill try it guys
[05:27] <Introvert> feugan3333: Also, it's also wise to use mount -t so you can specify the filesystem (Often vfat)
[05:28] <Edgy_Eft> i just want to activate my card, when i need the card
[05:28] <XiXaQ> DBO, ok. The installation cd seems to be incompatible with my system you see. But I know that 5.04 works, cause I installed it once.
[05:28] <Dutchy> shame there still is no up-to-date implementation of the msn protocol :( not because i need it or like it but because all my friends use it... having a client that doesnt show the 'comments' is frustrating
[05:28] <yggdrasil> oh wait its a gui fron end ... i want to be able to acces it remoely
[05:28] <Edgy_Eft> now the card is alway on
[05:28] <DBO> XiXaQ, what do you mean incompatible?
[05:28] <DBO> didnt we work on this one?
[05:28] <XiXaQ> DBO, well it doesn't work. :)
[05:28] <DBO> what goes wrong?
[05:29] <Introvert> Dutchy: Try Gaim 2.0.0 beta3, it's not in the repositories
[05:29] <Introvert> I don't think, anyway
[05:29] <DBO> its not
[05:29] <Kr0ntab> Edgy_Eft, if your "link" light is still blinking... that just means your radio is on.  The radio is different than yer interface being configured as up/down.  thats a physical thing fromn the motherboard/card
[05:29] <slackern> Edgy_Eft: Hmm, if you add it to blacklist the module won't be loaded, and if you want to bring up the card again just add a # before the modulename in blacklist file and modprobe modulename.
[05:29] <XiXaQ> DBO, when I try to install, it seems to go into an infinite loop when setting up primary installation repository or something?
[05:29] <Introvert> I'm sure there are debian packages lying around for it.
[05:29] <feugan3333> Introvert: Thanks for your help, I've been trying to get gnokii to work, but I think I will try something simpler such as obexftp.
[05:29] <yggdrasil> webmin hasstuff for iptables ?
[05:29] <Dutchy> Introvert, you sure that has it? does it use MSNP11?
[05:30] <DBO> XiXaQ, ok, so you want to install hoary and update to breezy (and in a month or so, dapper)
[05:30] <slackern> Edgy_Eft: What is the name of the module for that card btw?
[05:30] <Introvert> Dutchy: I don't use it, but I'm 90% sure it uses whatever the latest it. I KNOW it supports comments, those lame animation thingie, etc
[05:30] <Edgy_Eft> i dont know...i cant find the card
[05:30] <Edgy_Eft> pcmcia_core            44932  4 poldhu_cs,pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
[05:30] <Edgy_Eft>  ?
[05:30] <Introvert> Dutchy: The final version of GAIM 2.0.0, or beyond should support voice and video aswell.
[05:30] <XiXaQ> DBO, it keeps saying that my locale is up to date, and that nothing is downloaded, updated, removed or installed. Then it sais the same thing about iso-something and then it goes back to the locale again.
[05:30] <Edgy_Eft> i use a poldhu_cs driver
[05:30] <Dutchy> Introvert, ok, thanks for the info
[05:31] <Edgy_Eft> pcmcia                 24584  5 poldhu_cs
[05:31] <Edgy_Eft> poldhu_cs              29464  1
[05:31] <Edgy_Eft> from lsmod
[05:31] <XiXaQ> DBO, I want to have ubuntu on my harddrive. Running an os from a cd is not very efficient you know. :)
[05:31] <DBO> XiXaQ, yeah, for hoary to update you have to modify your sources.list to says breezy instead of hoary
[05:31] <Edgy_Eft> i can deactivate the card perfect with sudo cardinfo and click on eject
[05:31] <Edgy_Eft> but i want the consol command
[05:31] <DBO> XiXaQ, rumor has it that dappers update will update the sources.list automatically
[05:32] <Edgy_Eft> and i cant find it
[05:32] <XiXaQ> DBO, how stable is dapper? Perhaps I should download the installation cd for that first?
[05:32] <Edgy_Eft> which console command does sudo cardinfo while klicking on eject?
[05:32] <DBO> XiXaQ, its stable, but updates do break things from time to time, and some people have hosed boxes that way
[05:33] <DBO> its beta software
[05:33] <DBO> and should be treated as such
[05:33] <DBO> ubotu, tell DBO about enter
[05:33] <SAM_theman> what repostitory are there for 5.10?
[05:33] <Edgy_Eft> i just need the console command, because on my server i will have no monitor for clicking
[05:33] <raphael_> hello
[05:33] <JonathanKent> !TkCximage
[05:33] <ubotu> JonathanKent: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:33] <JonathanKent> am
[05:33] <DBO> !tell SAM_theman about repos
[05:33] <Introvert> Edgy_Eft: The console command for what?
[05:34] <Edgy_Eft> deactivating my wlan card
[05:34] <raphael_> need help loading common packages with automatix
[05:34] <Edgy_Eft> if i do sudo cardinfo i can klick on eject
[05:34] <Introvert> Edgy_Eft: Is it plugged in via pcmcia?
[05:34] <Edgy_Eft> yes
[05:34] <JonathanKent> Hello, i want to run my amsn but he has a error the TkCximage ??
[05:34] <Introvert> Edgy_Eft: Then unload your pcmcia kernel module if your not using it for anything.
[05:35] <DBO> JonathanKent, have you considered GAIM instead?
[05:35] <Edgy_Eft> sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop?
[05:35] <JonathanKent> i dont want the gaim
[05:35] <Introvert> Edgy_Eft: Well, modprobe -r pcmcia would be better
[05:36] <raphael_> need  help installing common packages with automatix
[05:36] <Introvert> Edgy_Eft: That starts it at boot, you need to do a
[05:36] <JonathanKent> ?
[05:36] <Edgy_Eft> FATAL: Module pcmcia is in use.
[05:36] <Edgy_Eft>  ;)
[05:36] <Introvert> Edgy_Eft: rc-update remove pcmcia default
[05:36] <Introvert> try that
[05:36] <johndoe> how do i determine, wheter my bluetooth keyboard is a hid device? (or recognized as such)
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> raphael_,  best advice.. dont use automatix.
[05:36] <JonathanKent> Hello, i want to run my amsn but he has a error the TkCximage ??
[05:36] <raphael_> why?
[05:36] <JonathanKent> !TkCx
[05:36] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JonathanKent
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> raphael_,  it does nasty things.
[05:37] <Introvert> Edgy_Eft: Any output on it?
[05:37] <raphael_> o.k thank's Dr.
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> raphael_,  used tobe a huge thread on it on the forums.. in short.. its best to not use it.
[05:37] <JonathanKent> One people can help me?
[05:37] <Edgy_Eft> i just ifdown eth1
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> i hear that 'easyubuntu' is a better tool.. but i feel its BEST to learn how to do the setups yourself.
[05:37] <Introvert> JonathanKent: /join #amsn
[05:37] <Edgy_Eft> FATAL: Module pcmcia is in use.
[05:37] <raphael_> o.k thank's again
[05:37] <Edgy_Eft> ifdown is not working
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> JonathanKent,  check the wiki/forums on ubuntu homepage. is a good start
[05:39] <johndoe> is somebody here successfully using a bluetooth keyboard
[05:39] <Edgy_Eft> this is no problem of ifconfig. it is a problem of cardmgr
[05:39] <Edgy_Eft> i see
[05:40] <magnus_1986> Why is the op named Ubugtu instead of Ubuntu? Does that word have a meaning (like Ubuntu)?
[05:40] <raphael_> is there a online manual  or pdf file for ubuntu?
[05:40] <slackern> Edgy_Eft: sorry had to go and make food so afk quickly
[05:40] <kbrooks> magnus_1986: Ubugtu is a channel bot
[05:40] <Edgy_Eft> thanks ;)
[05:40] <Edgy_Eft> anyway
[05:41] <_jason> raphael_: help.ubuntu.com (also available in system > help), wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:41] <Kr0ntab> Edgy_Eft, whats yer goal... simply to turn off the radio LED?
[05:41] <roryy> magnus_1986: it's just a clever name. it's a bot related to bug-tracking, afaik
[05:41] <raphael_> thank's jason
[05:42] <Edgy_Eft> i am reading manpages.....
[05:42] <Edgy_Eft> but this is not realy what i want :)
[05:42] <Fuelbottle> X crashes all the time, I have to ssh in to my computer every few hours to kill X because it stops accepting keyboard and mouse event, though I can still move the mouse cursor around but nothing happens
[05:43] <Kr0ntab> what do you need to do?
[05:43] <_jason> magnus_1986: Ubugtu is a bug bot, he can fetch bugs and tell us what they are (not in this channel though i believe).  Here he has teh duties of protecting us from other bots :)
[05:43] <magnus_1986> _jason and kbrooks thanks.
[05:43] <Fuelbottle> I just do a kill -9 on X to get back to the login screen and it works again
[05:43] <eod_punk> hello all
[05:44] <magnus_1986> eod_punk hello
[05:44] <eod_punk> anyone familure with ndiswrapper?
[05:44] <magnus_1986> Correct me if I'm mistaken but isnt this mozilla API?
[05:44] <eneried> hello,
[05:44] <eneried> how are you?
[05:45] <eugman> If I want  to multitask with multiple terminal programs should I just the tty1 through 6 or is there a way to do it with one terminal.
[05:45] <eugman> er just use..
[05:45] <eod_punk> I'm doing good just trying to work on this before i have to do someo outside stuff
[05:45] <roryy> eugman: use screen
[05:45] <magnus_1986> _jason oh now I get it, U'bug'tu
[05:45] <Remenic> is it possible to see an install/update history somewhere?
[05:45] <_jason> eugman: append & to the command
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> eugman,  you mean like 'screen' :P
[05:46] <Remenic> an install/update log actually
[05:46] <_jason> eugman: or screen, deppends on what exactly you are doing :)
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> bash has job controlls, use screen, or twin, or use different terms :P
[05:46] <roryy> screen is the super-ultra-wonderfullest terminal app ever.
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> roryy,  its handy. :P
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> I just wonder why mc seems to take forever to startup in screen
[05:46] <Fuelbottle> it's really annoying that ubuntu is *more* unstable than windows 98
[05:47] <_jason> Remenic: if you use aptitude, it logs to /var/log/aptitude
[05:47] <Kr0ntab> eugman, in addition to eugman.... if yer working in the 'vi' editor... :sh will also take you to a command line while working the file in the background.  :q to leave the shell and return to your file.
[05:47] <Kr0ntab> oops
[05:47] <Kr0ntab> in addition to _jason
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Fuelbottle,  never noticed it being unstable at all.
[05:47] <eneried> how to enable 7zip in the gnome archive manager?
[05:47] <_jason> !7zip
[05:47] <ubotu> You can use the Archive Manager to open 7zip files, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression for more info
[05:47] <sonic> ok guys, I've finally managed to extract a file from the windows partition and put it on my desktop, now I just need to put it onto my usb drive, but I get the following problem    ""/home/soni...mV2.0.zip" cannot be copied because you do not have permissions to read it."
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> !7zip
[05:48] <Fuelbottle> it is for me, I have to kill X every few hours by sshing into the machine because X stops woerking
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[05:48] <eneried> !7zip
[05:48] <Dutchy> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=235&package_id=253&release_id=405479 <= Which file do I need? im pretty new with these things... im guessing the compressed Source files but im not sure
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> 'it is for you' - sounds like a X driver/config issue to me.
[05:48] <_jason> ubotu said !7zip already :)
[05:48] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _jason
[05:48] <eod_punk> tar
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> i saw some 7zip tool for linux.. but i cant rember where.
[05:49] <sonic> anyone?
[05:49] <roryy> !info p7zip
[05:49] <ubotu> p7zip: (7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 4.20-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1384 kB, Installed size: 3608 kB
[05:49] <biovore> Dr_Willis: I have it installed.. but I don't remember where I got the exec from...  its a stand alone executable
[05:49] <scifi> hey guys just installed flash player for firefox, but ff still says the plugin needs to be installed if i visit a site with flash content :P
[05:49] <JonathanKent> i am put sudo apt-get install gcc because i am dont have gcc i am try again but he has the error another error checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:49] <eneried> thanks roryy! ;)
[05:49] <kingspawn> JonathanKent: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> !b-s
[05:50] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr_Willis
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[05:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[05:50] <scifi> any ideas guys ?
[05:50] <Fuelbottle> has anyone tried the nvidia drivers from nvidia's website?
[05:50] <jbzz> Problem: with PostgreSQL 8.0.3  using pgAdmin3  and Ubuntu 5.10  while using the Query Tool my cursor will often change to a plus sign with a 90 degree angle above and to the left of the plus.  The cursor moves but I cannot click anything.  The keyboard often becomes unresponsive.
[05:51] <HymnToLife> !no b-e is <reply> No make ? You need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-ger install build-essential.
[05:51] <ubotu> HymnToLife: okay
[05:51] <kingspawn> HymnToLife: type in apt-get
[05:51] <LinuxJones> Fuelbottle: you'll have to re-compile the nvidia binaries every time the kernel get's an upgrade.
[05:51] <kingspawn> s/type/typo
[05:51] <HymnToLife> damn, thanks :p
[05:51] <kingspawn> :)
[05:51] <HymnToLife> !no b-e is <reply> No make ? You need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[05:51] <ubotu> okay, HymnToLife
[05:51] <eugman> Hey if I'm in in one of the terminals does the gui still take up as many resources as if I were looking at it? Basically Does not looking as gnome make it work faster?
[05:52] <LinuxJones> Fuelbottle: the nvidia binaries in Ubuntu don't work for you ?
[05:52] <HymnToLife> eugman> I don't think so
[05:52] <|Sivik|> Dr: i just got the bcm43xx to work
[05:52] <HymnToLife> the GUI is still running
[05:52] <scifi> hey guys just installed flash player for firefox, but ff still says the plugin needs to be installed if i visit a site with flash content :P
[05:52] <Fuelbottle> LinuxJones, X crashes every few hours so I have to ssh into the computer to kill it, I thought maybe they could be the problem?
[05:52] <|Sivik|> Dr_Willis: it works
[05:52] <LinuxJones> eugman: are you running Dapper or Breezy ?
[05:52] <|Sivik|> scifi: do youhave yumex installed?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> |Sivik|,  heh - A+
[05:53] <johndoe> anybody successfully running a bluetooth keyboard
[05:53] <|Sivik|> Dr: what have you been having problems with?
[05:53] <scifi> |Sivik|: er dont know :P
[05:53] <eugman> breezy
[05:53] <|Sivik|> scifi: go and install yumex
[05:53] <XiXaQ> how can I unmount the Live-cd when running from it? Is it possible?
[05:53] <LinuxJones> Fuelbottle: what errors is xorg outputting ? is it a hard lockup or gnome just freezes ?
[05:53] <|Sivik|> after you install, run it and go to repos and force i386
[05:54] <|Sivik|> and then go to search and type flash
[05:54] <|Sivik|> and the flash-plugin will show up, install it and it will work
[05:54] <eugman> XiXaQ I don't think it is. I think you need a cd that's small enough to load entirely into ram like puppylinux.
[05:54] <XiXaQ> I'll just have to wait and see I guess.
[05:55] <LinuxJones> eugman: Dapper has some kernel optimizations set that will dramatically speed up your desktop responsivness.
[05:55] <JonathanKent> i have another error configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev
[05:55] <|Sivik|> scifi: does that make sense
[05:55] <scifi> |Sivik| : i ran ,  sudo apt-get install yumex, but package wasnt found, whats the package name for it?
[05:55] <aze45> hi all, i got a problem logging to wiki.ubuntu.com with my launchpad account, any idea ?
[05:55] <|Sivik|> do apt-cache search yumex
[05:55] <Fuelbottle> LinuxJones: it's very weird, I can move the mouse cursor but not click anything but the screen stops updating all running programs and keyboard doesn't work either can't even ctrl+alt+f1 to go to console, the only thing that works is to ssh in from another computer and kill x
[05:56] <|Sivik|> scifi: there is a problem
[05:56] <JonathanKent> i have another error configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev ??
[05:56] <hosler> I leave my Ubuntu Server on and my memory is slowly being eaten away. Help!
[05:56] <|Sivik|> do you even have tcl instaled?
[05:56] <JonathanKent> i am dont think no
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> JonathanKent,  fire up synaptic and install the tcl-dev stuff then
[05:56] <JonathanKent> because he say the error dont have
[05:57] <LinuxJones> Fuelbottle: you can change the xorg driver to "vesa" let the system  run and see if it still has problems. That will tell you if it's a buggy nvidia driver.
[05:57] <Edgy_Eft> rc-update remove pcmcia default
[05:57] <aze45> any official site admin here ?
[05:57] <scifi> |Sivik|: dont know lol :P
[05:57] <Edgy_Eft> "command not found"
[05:57] <|Sivik|> scifi: let me find it fo you
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Edgy_Eft,  you are usign Gentoo Commands.
[05:57] <hosler> Fuelbottle: I have had trouble with ubuntu and nvidia drivers too.
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Edgy_Eft,  ubuntu uses the sysv system. not gentoos system
[05:57] <Edgy_Eft> i copied from here
[05:57] <|Sivik|> are you in the 386 kernel in ubunto
[05:57] <|Sivik|> i am crazy
[05:57] <|Sivik|> wrong os
[05:57] <scifi> |Sivik|: did a search and found alot of different tcl packages :P
[05:57] <eugman> LinuxJones, I'm just doing a full backup right now which makes my cpu fun at full capacity so I'm saving resouces by doing everything with the terminal right now. I know I'm saving something by using tt++, irssi, links2. I was just wondering if just pessing ctrl + alt + f1 saved resources by virtue of not seeing the desktop.
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> then someone is confused. :P lol..  lets see
[05:58] <|Sivik|> scifi: are you running a i386 kernel or a 32-bit ff
[05:58] <Fuelbottle> hosler: they crashed X?
[05:58] <hosler> Fuelbottle: sometimes
[05:58] <|Sivik|> Dr: yes i am confused
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> heh heh.. ok..
[05:58] <ubuntulnx> im running ubuntu hoary on a desktop and im trying to get suspend to disk to work (etc/acpi/hibernate.sh).. sofar no luck,.. system shuts down, but directly comes back with a login dialog.. any pointers?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> thats a relief
[05:59] <scifi> |Sivik|: version 1.5.0.2, so i think its 32bit
[05:59] <|Sivik|> scifi: apt-get install swf-player
[05:59] <LinuxJones> eugman: the resources are still being used as they are running in the background, the preemptive kernel in Dapper makes a quite noticable increase in desktop response.
[05:59] <|Sivik|> does it say either 686 or 386?
[05:59] <|Sivik|> in the help, show version
[05:59] <|Sivik|> about ff
[06:00] <lantzilla> anyone know of a synaptic VLC player?
[06:00] <lantzilla> package that is
[06:00] <|Sivik|> apt-get install swf-player
[06:00] <scifi> |Sivik|: ok installed swf-player, ff is 1686
[06:00] <scifi> i686*
[06:01] <|Sivik|> and now run apt-get install libflash-mozplugin
[06:02] <scifi> |Sivik|: k done
[06:02] <|Sivik|> now go to www.nhl.com to test to see if its installed correctly
[06:03] <scifi> |Sivik|: seems fine, no plugin needing installed messages, TY :)
[06:03] <|Sivik|> yw
[06:04] <scifi> |Sivik|: hmmm hold on.... when i go to http://www.idsoftware.com/ i still get plugin needed
[06:04] <|Sivik|> what about www.nhl.com?
[06:04] <|Sivik|> then click on the think that says install plugin
[06:04] <GazzaK> is the latest version of gdesklets (0.35.3) going to be added to Automatix or synaptic?
[06:04] <|Sivik|> and go download it and install it manually
[06:05] <lantzilla> hello. Anyone know if there is either a synaptic package or a compiled binary for VLC?
[06:05] <Godis> Does anyone know any program for free downloads of mp3 and movies??
[06:05] <scifi> |Sivik|: ty, installed fine :)
[06:05] <LinuxJones> GazzaK: it's in Dapper
[06:05] <Taa5i_> Is there a good method to install ubuntu ont a notebook without a CD drive, please?
[06:05] <ubuntulnx> im running ubuntu hoary on a desktop and im trying to get suspend to disk to work (etc/acpi/hibernate.sh).. sofar no luck,.. system shuts down, but directly comes back with a login dialog.. any pointers?
[06:06] <GazzaK> oh cool, another push to get Dapper :)
[06:06] <LinuxJones> Godis: this isn't the place to ask that question
[06:06] <eugman> Godis Is that an eyepatch you are wearing?
[06:06] <GazzaK> thanks LinuxJones
[06:06] <|Sivik|> scifi: did you install to the correct folder?
[06:06] <LinuxJones> GazzaK: Dapper is awesome
[06:07] <scifi> |Sivik|: i dont know it just installed and flash works fine on http://www.idsoftware.com/ now
[06:07] <eugman> Yeah dapper is awesome but they better get that udev crap working right before june.
[06:07] <GazzaK> LinuxJones, erm, as a newbie, would it be foolish to upgrade to Dapper before it is released?
[06:08] <|Sivik|> ok
[06:08] <|Sivik|> then thats all that matters
[06:08] <LinuxJones> GazzaK: best to wait, but it's quite stable for me
[06:08] <DBO> GazzaK, yes, wait please
[06:08] <eugman> Gazzak, At the very least don't do anything remotely risky without good backups.
[06:09] <eugman> Godis, legaltorrents.com Has free music and movies that are completely legal as they are released under the creative commons a free license similar to the gpl.
[06:09] <eugman> Oh he left again
[06:10] <kbrooks> any amd64 user here?
[06:10] <|Sivik|> kbrooks: yes
[06:10] <DBO> yo
[06:10] <Fuelbottle> uhm, every time I start gnome it tries to execute /usr/lib/control-center/gnome-settings-daemon , but I don't even have a control-center folder
[06:10] <simonp_> yes
[06:10] <kbrooks> |Sivik|: pm
[06:10] <|Sivik|> kbrooks: but i haven't installed the x86_64 version of ubuntu yet
[06:10] <kbrooks> |Sivik|: er, nm
[06:10] <kbrooks> simonp_: are you an amd64 user?
[06:10] <LinuxJones> kbrooks: I was in amd64 before switching back, it wasn't worth the hastle :(
[06:10] <DBO> kbrooks, I use k7 core because 32-bit chroot is a pain
[06:10] <simonp_> kbrooks: yes, but i use i386
[06:10] <kbrooks> hm
[06:11] <|Sivik|> pm kbrooks
[06:11] <kbrooks> ok, any amd64 users here, please type: python -c "import os; print repr(os.uname())"
[06:12] <GazzaK> thanks folks, i'll wait
[06:12] <GazzaK> good advice
[06:12] <slackern> kbrooks: i know that i installed the i386 version instead of amd64 on my friends pc because i had to many problems with amd64
[06:12] <biovore> ('Linux', 'Mika', '2.6.12-amd64-arcmsr', '#4 Wed Feb 15 00:21:40 EST 2006', 'x86_64')
[06:12] <simonp_> kbrooks: ('Linux', 'simon64', '2.6.12-10-386', '#1 Sat Mar 11 16:13:17 UTC 2006', 'i686')
[06:12] <kbrooks> biovore: ty
[06:12] <slackern> then i switched it to i686 kernel.
[06:12] <scifi> is Quake III Arena 1.32b-2 for linux the full-game ?
[06:13] <biovore> no.. you need the CD still for all the data files
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> scifi,  i doubt if it has the official data files.
[06:13] <graveson> anyone here using giganews can recommend a good newsreader for ubuntu linux
[06:13] <slackern> but i haven't tried the beta2 as 64bit but the perfomance increase wasn't worth all the hassle for me.
[06:13] <LinuxJones> graveson: pan
[06:13] <LinuxJones> graveson: it's much like Forte Agent
[06:13] <scifi> so Q3 has not been released as GPL?
[06:13] <Juhaz> q3 _engine_ has
[06:14] <Juhaz> the game data files, no
[06:14] <graveson> linuxjons:thank you
[06:14] <|Sivik|> anyone here get 3d working for ati video cards?
[06:15] <scifi> Juhaz: wud it be possible to download the engine, then run any of the Q3 free mods ?
[06:16] <minerale> When I mount an ntfs drive, it always defaults to 700 permission for everything, I've tied changing umask, but It still defaults to that, how can that be changed?
[06:16] <Juhaz> scifi, depends on the mod, if it's a tc that doesn't depend on any original game files from quake, then yes
[06:16] <eugman> minerale It automounts the partition correct?
[06:17] <|Sivik|> how do i get 3d acc on an ati card?
[06:17] <s1gnal> I just did a new ubuntu install and I am applying updates. I appear to be hung while trying to install a new kernel, I see "Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 (2.6.12-10.30)
[06:18] <zyth> so can anyone explain to me why ubuntu install can boot off of a cdrom, load everything, but then FAIL to find the cdrom to do the bulk of the install? ;)
[06:18] <slackern> !fglrx
[06:18] <s1gnal> It has been that way for 30 minutes and there is no disk activity? Would it be safe to kill the process and restart updates again?
[06:18] <ubotu> it has been said that fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:18] <zyth> but a livecd boots and runs fine?
[06:18] <|Sivik|> but does it actually work, every time i try to run it, it won't load my x session
[06:18] <Pf123> Hi guys
[06:18] <slackern> btw guys, is there a way to record a movie of a desktop instead of  a plain screenshot to show animations and such?
[06:19] <mud> ATI drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
[06:19] <LinuxJones> zyth: you sure it's not your networking not being detected is the problem ?
[06:19] <aridese> hi guys, flashplayer in mozilla doesn't play sound (but everything else does)
[06:19] <zyth> LinuxJones, positive.
[06:19] <aridese> what could be the problem?
[06:19] <fid> has anyone installed gallery2 remote with ubuntu?
[06:19] <zyth> LinuxJones, it's really very odd.
[06:19] <|Sivik|> mud: i never can get it to work and i'm no longer in breezy
[06:19] <LinuxJones> slackern: istanbul but it doesn't work very well for me
[06:19] <Pf123> Q:  I dont have ubuntu yet, but will have it soon.  If I install ubuntu on an 80gb hdd and leave windows running on my other harddrive, how easy is it to switch between operating systems?
[06:19] <eugman> Aridese, Is it flash 7 or flahs 8?
[06:19] <minerale> eugman: nope, it does not automount it, I'm mounting it manually, but all the partitions default to 700 for root
[06:19] <aridese> eugman, i don't know, probably 7 because i apt-getted it
[06:20] <|Sivik|> Pf123: all you have to do is reboot the system and choose which operating system you want
[06:20] <|Sivik|> Pf123: its that easy
[06:20] <s1gnal> Pf123: Grub will take care of that for you, just make sure you resize your partitions accordingly when you install
[06:20] <mud> are you in dapper ? |Sivik|
[06:20] <slackern> LinuxJones: ok thanks i wanted to show xgl and such a bit better will have a look at it.
[06:20] <LinuxJones> zyth: I have never heard of that before, it's not a usb cdrom is it ?
[06:20] <eugman> aridese, I mean what you are trying to run. If it's flash 8 then it's too new and you can't do much about it.
[06:20] <aridese> eugman, flash 7
[06:20] <|Sivik|> mud: yes
[06:20] <zyth> LinuxJones, no, it is however a powerbook, but #ubuntu-ppc is so dead, I asked here.
[06:20] <Pf123> I have to make partitions for ubuntu?
[06:20] <|Sivik|> Pf123: you can do that in the installation of ubuntu
[06:20] <mud> |Sivik|, dont forget fglrxconfig after you install then reboot and it should work
[06:21] <Pf123> But do i need to?
[06:21] <simonp_> Pf123: very easy, use vmware
[06:21] <s1gnal> anyone have any ideas on my kernel problem? It looks like the updater is hung, but Im not sure and I dont want to kill the process and hose something
[06:21] <LinuxJones> slackern: you might want to have a look at wink >> http://www.debugmode.com/wink/
[06:21] <eugman> Minerale I know you can change it manually using gksudo nautilus but I don't know how to make it so when you mount it the default is different.
[06:21] <Pf123> Also, im assuming to get grub to boot to pick between winxp and ubuntu i have to set my 80gb hdd to boot first?
[06:21] <minerale> there exists a ubuntu wiki page that has tutorials for automatically creating the fstab file.. trying to find it
[06:21] <Taa5i_> Is there a good way to install ubuntu onto a laptop with no CD rom drive, please?
[06:21] <|Sivik|> no you don't pf123
[06:21] <LinuxJones> slackern: unfortunately is saves files in shite flash format :(
[06:22] <eck> Taa5i_: I did it by doing a bootstrap install
[06:22] <eugman> Taa5i_ you can do a net install via floppy I believe.
[06:22] <zyth> Taa5i_, write the ISO image to a USB device with rawrite, boot off of it, then do a networked install.
[06:22] <|Sivik|> sinonp: can i use vmware for an os that is already installed?
[06:22] <Xenguy> here it is: http://www.mybittorrent.com/music/bittorrent_236740.html
[06:22] <Pf123> siviki:  how would that work then, wouldnt it just boot xp if i set it to boot from my winxp harddrive? ^o)
[06:22] <Xenguy> sorry, ww
[06:22] <simonp_> |Sivik|: probably, but difficult to get it right
[06:23] <scifi> does anyone know if ffs default download manager will resume a file if u stop/start downloading ?
[06:23] <kingspawn> it should resume
[06:23] <simonp_> |Sivik|: vmware can access physical partition
[06:23] <simonp_> |Sivik|: no problem to access ntfs partition
[06:24] <LinuxJones> zyth: google or the forums boards might be your best bet
[06:24] <eck> Taa5i_: you can also make a bootable usb drive, install sarge, and then dist-upgrade to breezy or dapper
[06:24] <|Sivik|> ok
[06:24] <|Sivik|> so i can run an os with vm wihout reinstalling the os?
[06:24] <Pf123> eck, bootable usb drive, that means i could empty my 5g mp3 player and get an os to boot from it?
[06:25] <zyth> LinuxJones, okay.  Just figured I'd check.  OS X is getting kludgy on my ol PB
[06:25] <eck> Pf123: yes; i have a 1GB bootable flash drive with debian
[06:25] <Taa5i_> eck: Thank you, I'll try to get that working.  The Laptop only has USB1, however, I'm not sure it supports booting from USB device.
[06:25] <fid> http://gallery.menalto.com/wiki/Gallery_Remote can anyone take a look at that link and tell me which one is best to download for ubuntu?
[06:25] <simonp_> |Sivik|: you can do so, but it may ruin your windows boot partition
[06:26] <eck> Taa5i_: you might be able to do a PXE installation, but I've never managed to get that working
[06:26] <|Sivik|> simonp: so the only thing is i wouldn't be able to boot with windows anymore?
[06:26] <LinuxJones> zyth: ahh
[06:27] <Papageno> What is a good newsgroup reader application?
[06:27] <invitado3> HOLA
[06:27] <zyth> Papageno, tin.
[06:27] <Papageno> Thank you
[06:27] <invitado3> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL
[06:28] <slackern> !es
[06:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:28] <antoniojulio> yo lo hablo y escribo
[06:28] <Chri[s] > Why does my computer go "DIng Dong"
[06:28] <simonp_> |Sivik|:it's safer to use fresh install windows on vmware than using existing partition
[06:28] <|Sivik|> ok
[06:28] <Chri[s] > Sup Sivik
[06:28] <|Sivik|> hey chris
[06:28] <Chri[s] > Hey
[06:28] <Papageno> Also, what can I use to part a partition like PartitionMagic for Windows?
[06:28] <|Sivik|> are you the chris i think your are?
[06:28] <simonp_> |Sivik| because vmware use different set of drivers on windows than your existing one
[06:28] <Chri[s] > |Sivik|, did you ever work on those wireless access points ?
[06:28] <|Sivik|> ok
[06:28] <fid> how do i run sh scripts?
[06:28] <zyth> Papageno, gparted
[06:28] <Taa5i_> eck:  Is there a utility to boot up, that could then 'boot' from a USB drive?  That is, if the USB drive isn't supported as a boot device.
[06:29] <fid> or install .bin files for that matter
[06:29] <Papageno> zyth, thanks again
[06:29] <|Sivik|> chirs: i have been trying to figure out how to use the bridge mode of the 1200
[06:29] <ubuntulnx> fid, have a look at jalbum as well!
[06:29] <Chri[s] > i think we might just need a wireless bridge
[06:29] <|Sivik|> that might work, but does the school have one of those
[06:30] <eck> Taa5i_: there might be; I would imagine that if you could install a bootloader onto a floppy disk, then you could boot off the floppy, and then use that boot loader to select a USB drive
[06:30] <anilkumar> hi
[06:31] <Dark-Night> dose the command 'su' log me in as 'root?
[06:31] <eck> Taa5i_: I don't really know of any solutions thought that don't require you to already have access to a Linux machine
[06:31] <zyth> Dark-Night, only if you enabled root
[06:31] <Dark-Night> ah that would be it then :)
[06:31] <anilkumar> Hi i have one problem with cron
[06:31] <anilkumar> can anybody help me
[06:32] <fid> ubuntulnx: what is jalbum?
[06:32] <eck> !ask
[06:32] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[06:32] <stevietool> someone familiar with wireless failures?
[06:32] <zyth> stevietool, yep
[06:33] <stevietool> I got the following message: ipw2200 : failed to send wep_keu command
[06:33] <buzzed> so ....
[06:33] <ubuntulnx> another gallery/photo album generator fid
[06:33] <fid> oh
[06:33] <simonp_> Taa5i_: probably vmware can do that
[06:33] <buzzed> ipod... podcast...
[06:34] <s1gnal> Q: I just did a new ubuntu install and I am applying updates. I appear to be hung while trying to install a new kernel, I see "Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 (2.6.12-10.30), it has been that way for 45 minutes and there is no disk activity
[06:34] <fid> well I use remote gallery for windows so I figured if i could get for ubuntu that would be great
[06:34] <fid> apparently I have it i Just don't know how to install it
[06:34] <scifi> i know support/continued development for linux americas army has ceased, but does the latest version still work? connect to game servers etc ?
[06:35] <biovore> scifi: see icculus.org
[06:35] <Dark-Night> Whish me luck ;)
[06:36] <stevietool> zyth: when I wan't to bring my eth* up, I get ipw2200 : failed to send wep_key command
[06:36] <ubuntulnx> fid, jalbum is java based, will work on osx,linux,windows
[06:36] <zyth> stevietool, one sec, work calls, brb.
[06:36] <LinuxJones> s1gnal: just close the app, open a terminal do apt-get clean apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade
[06:37] <fid> is it for gallery2?
[06:37] <fid> because I've already got gallery installed on the web server
[06:38] <maruchan> i have question, is there a good program that burns non iso9660
[06:38] <buzzed> anyway's what i want is to sync my podcasts on my nano where it removes the listened to podcasts and uploads the latest...
[06:38] <maruchan> i when i try to burn on krb this error comes even thought it burns
[06:38] <fid> i'm trying to install the remote java client that allows me to upload files to the galery without actually logging in to it via web browser
[06:38] <maruchan> it dosent work
[06:38] <falk0n> hello
[06:39] <Chri[s] > How secure is ubuntu off a default account with ssh? like is there any exploits that allow root access or anything
[06:40] <ubuntulnx> fid, jalbum generates the html and navigation thingies.. lots of cool (even flash based) themes.. you might want to google it and check it out..
[06:40] <Dark-Night> it says i need to sort out my CC Compiler so that it can compile my Kernal. dose that mean i need to install my C++ Programming files, um like gcc etc?
[06:41] <_jason> Is there a simple command for moving directory a to directory b (and backing up b).  Basically, I want the same effect 'mv --backup a b' has when a and b are files
[06:41] <fid> how do i execute a bin file?
[06:41] <monomaniacpat> ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!
[06:41] <_jason> fid: ./file.bin
[06:41] <_jason> fid: (in the same directory)
[06:41] <monomaniacpat> My goddamn wireless card won't work again!!!
[06:42] <Dark-Night> A hammer helps me with that
[06:42] <_jason> fid: you also may have to make sure it has executable permissions
[06:42] <crimson> How do I access root with Dapper?
[06:42] <Dark-Night> sudo -s
[06:42] <monomaniacpat> guem: fyrs
[06:42] <Dark-Night> su
[06:42] <_jason> crimson: same as breezy, sudo -i
[06:42] <_jason> Dark-Night: sudo -i is preferred
[06:42] <monomaniacpat> guem: you there?
[06:42] <Dark-Night> ok thanks :D
[06:43] <Roberto> Hola, alguien habla espaol
[06:43] <Dark-Night> whast the diffrence between -i and -s?
[06:43] <kbrooks> ok, any i686 kernel users here, please type: python -c "import os; print repr(os.uname())"
[06:43] <_jason> !es
[06:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:43] <Dark-Night> whats*
[06:43] <roryy> _jason: didn't quite follow what you want, but have you checked out rsync? might do what you want
[06:43] <guem> monomaniacpat: yepp :)
[06:43] <PantyTickler> hey
[06:43] <_jason> Dark-Night: -i resets the environment variables, see man sudo :)
[06:44] <am> hi yall
[06:44] <monomaniacpat> why doesn't it work no more? *cries* i've restarted, tried it twice, reinstated the old interfaces file... followed the instructions from the same website, set it up by just shortcutting to the same commands I used earlier....
[06:45] <guem> monomaniacpat: what exactly is the problem now?
[06:45] <_jason> roryy: I'll try to explain a bit more.  if a and b are directories (in the same parent directory) and I do 'mv --backup a b' it complains it can't overwrite a directory.  However, if a and b are file, it renames a to b and renames b to b.~1~.  I want that same effect for directories
[06:45] <madewokherd> os.uname() => ('Linux', 'wicket', '2.6.15-16-386', '#1 PREEMPT Mon Feb 20 16:38:26 UTC 2006', 'i686')
[06:45] <crimson> How do I give the user root permission to access directories/files?  Or login root with Dapper?
[06:45] <_jason> ubotu: tell crimson about sudo
[06:45] <roryy> _jason: hmm. I see 'rsync' has a backup option
[06:46] <whiter> !flash
[06:46] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:46] <crimson> passwd root didn't work
[06:46] <Roberto> Hola
[06:46] <_jason> crimson: read the wiki page please
[06:46] <monomaniacpat> When I set the card up using 'networking' from the system menu it takes ages to enable the card and when it does the 'link' light on the card doesn't go on this time
[06:46] <crimson> k
[06:46] <jmoncayo> crimson, sudo su; passwd;
[06:46] <minerale> I have installed the nvidia-glx-legacy package... but when the X server starts it still uses the 'old' default driver... dpkg-reconfigure is not doing anything either
[06:46] <ubuntulnx> anyone know how to add a bit of ram to my video memory in ubuntu?
[06:46] <fid> can someone tell me what the heck to do with a BIN file?
[06:47] <_jason> fid: what are you trying to install?
[06:47] <minerale> fid  sudo sh foo.bin
[06:47] <fid> trying to install the remote gallery app
[06:47] <Taa5i_> ubuntulnx: Try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [I think is the name] 
[06:48] <Taa5i_> Then it will give you a choice to assign RAM for video during that process
[06:48] <Taa5i_> Just set however much you want and it'll shadow over RAM to play as vram
[06:48] <jmoncayo> can i unsinstall a program with all the files and other programs it installed??
[06:48] <Taa5i_> I used that all the time making servers with 2m onboard be able to run at decent resolusions.
[06:48] <_jason> jmoncayo: how did you install it?
[06:48] <ubuntulnx> Taa5i_, can i share my normal ram and add it to my video card there?
[06:48] <jmoncayo> _jason, apt-get install
[06:49] <roryy> _jason: yeah, i think 'rsync -ba a/ b' will do it (the trailing / is significant); -bav is the verbose version
[06:49] <_jason> jmoncayo: then you can apt-get remove --purge packagename, but that will only remove the package and its config files.  Any dependencies installed will still be present, you may want to look into 'deborphan' and in the future consider using aptitude to install things (aptitude remembers dependencies installed with a package)
[06:50] <_jason> roryy: thanks!
[06:50] <jmoncayo> _jason, oki thanks
[06:51] <antisocial_boris> how can i split up .zip files to get them small enough to send?
[06:51] <roryy> antisocial_boris: split. read 'man split' or 'split --help'
[06:51] <Taa5i_> ubuntulnx: There is a section during the reconfigure process that allows you to set that, yes.
[06:51] <monomaniacpat> guem: any ideas?
[06:51] <fid> minerale thanks
[06:52] <ubuntulnx> i'll have a look, thx Taa5i_!!
[06:52] <guem> monomaniacpat: na, not really :(
[06:52] <Taa5i_> ubuntulnx: I cannot vouch for how well it might work for graphical performance, but if all you want is better resolution on a low-end card it works great.
[06:52] <monomaniacpat> I must be doing something different - is there a quick way to view the commands I've entered other than /var/log/auth.log?
[06:53] <ubuntulnx> Taa5i_, i have "resource" problems with mplayer, and figured it was due to the lack of video ram.. think my card carries 4MB ;-)
[06:53] <Nadimar> yay!! got ubuntu working on my external hardrive =)
[06:54] <Taa5i_> That may be what you're looking for, then.  But your mileage may vary ;)
[06:54] <abu> hi
[06:54] <am> After I installed some aplications with synaptic , rebooted , no X Desktop any more just the Text mode, any help?
[06:55] <abu> what do u mean?
[06:55] <eugman> Hey are there any windows compatible programs capable of opening a .dar file?
[06:55] <abu> i don't no anyone
[06:56] <am> I have a Text mode only
[06:56] <am> the xserver-xorg has a faltal error
[06:58] <whiter> !bittorrent
[06:58] <ubotu> I guess bittorrent is the BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:58] <Fuelbottle> ugh someone broke my mouse
[06:58] <bbogart> Hey all, I have a question about evolution (on 5.10)
[06:58] <Fuelbottle> I did apt-get upgrade and now the volume buttons on my mouse doesnt work in gnome anymore
[06:59] <LinuxJones> eugman: there is kdar
[07:00] <tarvid> how would i list the libraries a program loads?
[07:00] <bbogart> does anyone know how I can disable the daemon parts of evolution, since I'd rather use jpilot for syncing and evolution is using too many resources.
[07:00] <COMMAND_> I have some questions about turning a Dell Precision 420 running Ubuntu 5.10 into a fileserver.
[07:00] <eugman> LinuxJones, I know this but let's say I have a .dar file and a windows installation , is there a way to open it?
[07:00] <eugman> or can kde be run on windows
[07:00] <bbogart> tarvid, "ldd [programe name] 
[07:01] <LinuxJones> eugman: >> http://dar.linux.free.fr/
[07:01] <am> eugman you wanna run KDE on Windows?
[07:01] <Taa5i_> taarvid: ldd `which <program name`
[07:01] <Venson> eugman: with kde4, i think they're hoping to release a windows version....but right now you can only run kde under windows using cygwin iirc
[07:01] <COMMAND_> How do I get started?
[07:02] <tarvid> bbogart, thanks
[07:02] <COMMAND_> I ahve googled and checked the Ubuntu forums.
[07:02] <Venson> oh no...not Determinist
[07:02] <Determinist> lol
[07:02] <Determinist> hey Venson
[07:02] <Venson> hey dude
[07:02] <Determinist> how's it going mate?
[07:02] <Venson> Determinist: getting by. and yourself?
[07:02] <eugman> Venson, so is .dar  limited to linux or is there a crossplatform program that can runit?
[07:02] <COMMAND_> Anyone...?
[07:02] <Determinist> Venson, busy, as usual :)
[07:02] <soundray> COMMAND_: is this going to be a "headless" server?
[07:02] <COMMAND_> What do you mean?
[07:03] <LinuxJones> COMMAND_: you going to be using windows machines to access the backup server ?
[07:03] <soundray> COMMAND_: no screen, no keyboard
[07:03] <Venson> Determinist: good good
[07:03] <Determinist> Venson, you a convert these days or still doing the old  "lets be redhat's test dummy" fedora thing? lol
[07:03] <COMMAND_> I'm going to be using Windows and Macs to access it.
[07:03] <Venson> eugman: i don't know about dar files
[07:03] <Venson> Determinist: i've been using slackware for over a year now =)
[07:03] <Determinist> Venson, ahh, that's good, i hear it's quite a good OS
[07:03] <LinuxJones> eugman: you can run dar in windows goto the page I posted earlier
[07:04] <COMMAND_> soundray: What?
[07:04] <Venson> Determinist: it works. that's all i care about. what're you using? ubuntu, i take it?
[07:04] <soundray> COMMAND_: headless = no screen, no keyboard -- remote administration only
[07:04] <LinuxJones> COMMAND_: you'll probably want to run samba so your client machines can connect to the server.
[07:04] <bbogart> tarvid, as Taa5i says you need the full path to the program, that you can get from "which"
[07:04] <Determinist> Venson, yes, and testing SUSE but for work related issues, trying to convince my boss to change afew systems we use into suse since most of our systems are web based so we wont notice the difference
[07:04] <marcus_> hi
[07:04] <COMMAND_> soundray: No, I have monitor and k/b
[07:04] <moparfan90> i installed apache and all its stuff.... whats the command to start it?
[07:05] <tarvid> it works
[07:05] <Venson> Determinist: good idea. save a few bucks and make your boss happy in the process :)
[07:05] <COMMAND_> LinuxJones: I'm totally new to this.
[07:05] <eugman> !lamp
[07:05] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:05] <Determinist> Venson, screw him, make myself happy not having to deal with that horror called windows XP
[07:05] <soundray> COMMAND_: do you need a GUI to configure, or do you want to keep the system installation as small as possible?
[07:05] <Venson> Determinist: LOL ....good enough a reason
[07:05] <LinuxJones> COMMAND_: samba allows microsoft, mac, linux machines to share files.
[07:06] <J_P> hi all
[07:06] <COMMAND_> soundray: GUI would be nice. I have 100 gigs in the box.
[07:06] <marcus_> spricht jemand deutsch
[07:06] <Determinist> Venson, thing is... once you've tasted debian, you can never go back to RPM. it's just so much better and cleaner. the system works like a charm, things look so simple and pretty. or it's just me.
[07:06] <nerdz> hi, my pendrive gets listed on "lsusb" but its not being mounted. Does anyone know what the problem can be?
[07:06] <AndyJ> wish I could get my management to consider linux...
[07:06] <soundray> marcus_: ja, aber #ubuntu-de ist besser dafuer
[07:06] <COMMAND_> LinuxJones: Samba, huh? Google it?
[07:07] <Venson> Determinist: i keep hearing about it. i'll have to try it one of these days
[07:07] <LinuxJones> COMMAND_: there are howto's all over the place, best to find one for Ubuntu though
[07:07] <soundray> COMMAND_: have a 3GB system partition and some swap space. You can then share the rest of the disk via samba. Up to you whether you split that space further up or not.
[07:07] <marcus_> wo finde ich #ubuntu-de
[07:07] <COMMAND_> LinuxJones: Just google it?
[07:07] <AndyJ> Somebody noticed that we had a couple hundred unlicensed copies of Adobe Acrobat installed a while back.  I slapped together samba and ghostscript to make a network pdf printer under Ubuntu, but we ended up buying the licences instead.
[07:07] <Determinist> Venson, *nod*
[07:08] <AndyJ> There's money for software, but none for the hardware for another server.  ugh.
[07:08] <LinuxJones> COMMAND_: or you can search the ubuntu website as well
[07:08] <soundray> marcus_: tipp einfach '/join #ubuntu-de' (ohne die Anfuehrungszeichen)
[07:08] <Venson> AndyJ: sad that
[07:08] <COMMAND_> LinuxJones: I've done that. I still ahve to try some of those things.
[07:08] <COMMAND_> soundray: Sounds good. Thanks.
[07:09] <J_P> people, anyone have setup cluster with Ubuntu Linux ? Do you know some tutorial for this ?
[07:09] <COMMAND_> LinuxJones: Do I need a fresh install?
[07:09] <soundray> AndyJ: we need people like you to climb up the ranks and make those decisions
[07:10] <AndyJ> too bad I'm about as far down the ladder as I can get
[07:10] <LinuxJones> COMMAND_: no if you have ubuntu installed already you can simply install the software by doing sudo apt-get install samba
[07:10] <jenos> hi
[07:10] <AndyJ> being a helpdesk tech for a local site in a multinational corp, I don't get to make many changes
[07:11] <jenos> helme
[07:11] <COMMAND_> LinuxJones: Ok, cool. Do I need any software on my other computers (Windows and Mac) to be able to access it? They're all connected via a router.
[07:11] <soundray> !helpme
[07:11] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:11] <Determinist> damnit, i want yakuake for gnome :/
[07:11] <bbogart> The evolution Daemon's seem to use over 100MB of ram, any way to optimize this a bit?
[07:11] <Determinist> and i cant be arsed to sit and write it down.
[07:12] <Venson> Determinist: i love that one. i use it all the time. in fact, this xchat windows i'm typing into auto-closes
[07:12] <LinuxJones> COMMAND_: they should be able to talk once samba is set up.
[07:12] <Venson> Determinist: thanks to kwin, actually. haven't installed kuake or anything.
[07:12] <Dark-Night> where do i put the brushes that i have downloaded for The GIMP?
[07:12] <bbogart> gnome and a terminal, and xchat mean I'm now using already 30% of my 1GB.
[07:12] <jenos> helpme
[07:12] <Determinist> Venson, hmm, how do then?
[07:12] <COMMAND_> LinuxJones: Awesome. Can I also connect to it from another computer outside the LAN?
[07:12] <minerale> Ok, how do I download the linux headers for my kernel? I have 2.6.15-20 ... and the apt-cache only shows 15-21 ... (amd64, drake)
[07:13] <Venson> Determinist: oh, it's easy under kde. i did a writeup a long time ago. don't think gnome can manage it yet
[07:13] <jenos> si
[07:13] <jenos> ye
[07:13] <Venson> Determinist: i can send you the writeup for kde, if you like
[07:13] <Determinist> Venson, of course
[07:14] <LinuxJones> COMMAND_: you don't want to open your samba server over the web, you normally would ssh or vpn into your network and access the files over an encrypted connection.
[07:14] <dartmolx> hello :)
[07:14] <AndyJ> I need to find some sort of application where a Linux server could generate enough cost avoidance to pay for a brand spanking new server to install it on.
[07:14] <Venson> Determinist: http://pastebin.com/688874
[07:14] <Determinist> Venson, thanks mate
[07:14] <COMMAND_> LinuxJones: Ok. Sounds good. What's the best tutorial in your opinion? Is it buried somewhere in the Ubuntu site?
[07:15] <Dark-Night> where do i put the brushes that i have downloaded for The GIMP?
[07:16] <soundray> Dark-Night: $HOME/.gimp-2.2/brushes/
[07:16] <Dark-Night> thanks very much :D
[07:16] <azurehuesofblue> I'm having this problem and I'm going to kick myself in the ass when I figure it out, but to encode mp3 files on audacity I need the lame encoder .so file and I can find one that says .so.0 but it wont work, help!
[07:17] <desrt> is anyone here using xgl?
[07:18] <minerale> ... anyone could help me in downloading the headers for my kernel?
[07:18] <Determinist> desrt, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:18] <soundray> azurehuesofblue: use ln -s to make a soft link from the .so.0 to the filename that audacity looks for
[07:18] <desrt> Determinist; mad wicked.  thx.
[07:18] <Determinist> :)
[07:19] <azurehuesofblue> Ok, I'll give it a try, thank you.
[07:19] <azurehuesofblue> soundray
[07:20] <minerale> how can you update your kernel to the latest ?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> fire up synaptic and see what the latest is. and install it. and the sources..
[07:20] <minerale> dr_willis: I have no x server
[07:21] <jadaz87> minerale aptitude!! :-)
[07:21] <zyth> apt-get install linux-arch
[07:21] <zyth> ex, linux-686
[07:21] <zyth> or whatever..
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> minerale,  and this is my fault?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[07:21] <ubotu> well, apt-get is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[07:22] <LinuxJones> COMMAND_: here's a good place to start >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> actually apt-get update/upgrade - has always updated my kernels
[07:22] <ubuntu_> i am having trouble installing dapper
[07:22] <ubuntu_> i have tried the live cd beta 1 and 2 and they dont work
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_,  dapper chat ---> #ubuntu+1
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> and give more details then 'dont work' :P
[07:23] <_jason> Dr_Willis: I think if you have linux-image-386 it automatically pulls in new kernels
[07:23] <ubuntu_> well the partitioner works and then the system doesnt install
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> _jason,  i tend to install the 686 anyway.
[07:23] <_jason> Dr_Willis: yeah, or 686
[07:24] <ubuntu_> so i clear my linux partiton and ubuntu doesnt install
[07:24] <Dark-Night> hello again
[07:24] <Dark-Night> whats the shell command to creat a new folder?
[07:24] <ubuntu_> supposedly beta 2 was supposed to fix that problem but it didnt for me
[07:24] <LinuxJones> ubuntu_: the livecd installer doesn't work that well atm. Best to download the actual install cd.
[07:24] <MrElendig> mkdir
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> I had issues with the live cd - not installing the bootloader correctly
[07:25] <kimrhh> hi, what's the "correct" way to install a working build-env on ubuntu ?
[07:25] <LinuxJones> ubuntu_: do you have a breezy installer cd ?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[07:25] <ubotu> No make ? You need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[07:25] <ubuntu_> no i dont
[07:25] <MrElendig> LinuxJones: isn't it posible to use the old text-mode installer from the live cd?
[07:25] <Flannel> MrElendig: no.
[07:25] <MrElendig> :/
[07:25] <kimrhh> I've done a apt-get install build-essential, but still I get configure errors about the C-compiler
[07:25] <ubuntu_> so i should go with breezy?
[07:25] <LinuxJones> MrElendig: if you have 2 cd drives or dvd drive yeah
[07:26] <minerale> dr_willis: I was not looking just to 'click and install it' I wanted to know what it takes, what files are downloaded, what is updated etc
[07:26] <jmoncayo> what does this find . -name '* *' | sort  mean??
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_,  the final release of dapper is due out.. well soon. :P may as well learn breezy till then.
[07:26] <Flannel> Dr_Willis: June 1
[07:26] <erUSUL> kimrhh: post the errors in paste-bin
[07:26] <LinuxJones> MrElendig: I believe with the new cd you can install qemu then run the installer using the emulator.
[07:26] <ubuntu_> k thanks
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> minerale,  apt-get and the other apt tools can tell you that info.   or synaptics details tab.
[07:27] <kimrhh> erUSUL: ok
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> LinuxJones,  now thats... just.. weird.
[07:27] <LinuxJones> Dr_Willis: heh
[07:27] <soundray> jmoncayo: look in the current dir and subdirs for all files that contain a space in their name and spit them out in alphabetic order.
[07:27] <Dark-Night> whats the shell command to create a new folder? I need something like 'touch newfile'
[07:27] <Dark-Night> but makes a folder
[07:27] <Venson> mkdir
[07:27] <MrElendig> I talked to the maintainer of the livecd on thursday, but i probably misinterpeded him abit
[07:27] <Venson> same as in DOS
[07:27] <Dark-Night> thanks
[07:27] <MrElendig> or visa versa
[07:27] <erUSUL> Dark-Night: mkdir
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> !bash
[07:27] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[07:27] <ubuntu_> mkdir newfoldername
[07:28] <soundray> !cli
[07:28] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[07:28] <Dark-Night> :d thanks all :D
[07:28] <kimrhh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13080 <- compiler error
[07:28] <chapium> One thing has always driven me crazy in linux
[07:28] <Venson> Dark-Night: might i suggest you grab RUTE's free tutorial and use that as a reference for such things
[07:28] <chapium> and it is the fact that the thumb button on my mouse does not act as a "back" button in firefox/nautilus
[07:28] <gill> hello all
[07:28] <chapium> how do you fix this?
[07:29] <Dark-Night> yeah, I think that will be a good idea :D
[07:29] <Venson> kimrhh: are you compiling c++ code?
[07:29] <gill> I need help with a printer... it's just not giving me any errors or anything.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> chapium,  ya know - ive NEVER used that button evenunder windows... :P
[07:29] <kimrhh> Venson: no, trying to build Gaim-2.0
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> chapium,  its the 'grenade' button for me in FPS games.
[07:29] <kimrhh> Venson: should I paste config.log as well ?
[07:29] <Venson> kimrhh: you're missing gcc in which case, perhaps
[07:30] <soundray> gill: printer errors go into /var/log/cups/ . Make sure you have ghostscript installed.
[07:30] <kimrhh> seems there's a permission problem when it tries to compile
[07:30] <chapium> Dr_Willis: haha.  Its actually very convienient in firefox
[07:30] <gerry> I got my thumb buttons working by editing xorg.conf and changing the mouse Protocol to Auto and adding the option Buttons 7
[07:30] <chapium> convenient*
[07:30] <kimrhh> Venson: no, I have installed build-essential, with gcc-4
[07:30] <chapium> gerry: ah, i'll try that
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> chapium,  opera has that mouse-gesture feature thats nifty.
[07:31] <edu> Hi there
[07:31] <gerry> I needed the Auto protocol because I have a Ps/2 and USB mouse - you may not need to do this
[07:31] <chapium> As far as I can tell, this mouse only has 6 buttons
[07:31] <edu> Is there any easy way to mount usb mass storage devices in Kubuntu 5.10?
[07:31] <chapium> I'll give it a shot
[07:31] <erUSUL> exit
[07:32] <gerry> the wheel is actually 3 buttons, up down and click
[07:32] <Dark-Night> I dont have a swap partition, should i create one, or is it too late now?
[07:32] <soundray> edu: they should mount automatically. If not, it's a configuration option -- best to ask in #kubuntu
[07:32] <Dark-Night> I have 512MB of RAM atm
[07:32] <chapium> this is the mouse i'm dealing with: http://www.dansdata.com/images/moremouses/ltdside440.jpg
[07:32] <gill> soundray: Printer fault!
[07:32] <gill> lol
[07:32] <Venson> kimrhh: yes, the contents of config.log should be useful
[07:33] <Dark-Night> lol
[07:33] <edu> thanks, soundray
[07:33] <kimrhh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13081 <- more info on error
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> chapium,  google, and the ubuntu wiki/forums - are the place to search. i see similer questions all the time.. it has to be mentioned there.
[07:33] <gill> soundray, a number of tools which do things with the printer directly like escputill don't seem to beable to even query it.
[07:34] <Remenic> Dark-Night: you will need that swap partition :P
[07:34] <soundray> gill: try with sudo
[07:34] <gill> soundray, it is a new printer so all the things are flashing on it
[07:34] <Remenic> Dark-Night: on my system (512MB) I hit swap within a few hours
[07:34] <gill> soundray, that was will sudo
[07:34] <Remenic> Dark-Night: swap usage is usually around 250 - 300MB
[07:34] <soundray> gill: is it supported? linuxprinting.org is a good source
[07:35] <gill> soundray, sure is 'mostly'
[07:35] <ubuntu_> ho
[07:35] <ubuntu_> hi
[07:35] <ubuntu_> hello
[07:35] <gill> suported by gutenprint, but the specific modle isn't listed in my add printer section, but it is online... hmm
[07:35] <kimrhh> Venson: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13081
[07:36] <kimrhh> Venson: hmm, I should read more carefully
[07:36] <kimrhh> seems I have some kind of permission problems
[07:36] <grimboy> Hello, I seem to be getting a load of XUL errors on the version of firefox included with ubuntu, what should I do?
[07:37] <Stork> !ati
[07:37] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:37] <Venson> kimrhh: yeah
[07:37] <Luke> when I go to Windows Network in nautilus, it has an error popup: ""smb:///" is not a valid location." Anyone know how to fix this?
[07:37] <buzzed> any ipod syncing info?
[07:37] <Venson> kimrhh: i suggest you try and manually compile a hello world program in C
[07:37] <Dark-Night> ok, so if i where to use partition magic in windows to creat a new partition called swap and made it 300MB.  What type would I have to set it?(FAT, NTFS etc) and would Ubuntu Reconise it or will i have to run some set ups somewhere again?
[07:37] <Venson> kimrhh: make sure that works....then retry this
[07:37] <Xenguy_> kimrhh: do you really need to compile the stuff?
[07:37] <buzzed> for syncing podcasts
[07:37] <Stork> how can i find out what graphics card i have?
[07:37] <soundray> gill: how do you mean "all the things are flashing on it"?
[07:38] <soundray> Stork: lspci sometimes helps
[07:38] <krotaz> hi there guys
[07:38] <Stork> ah, thanks soundray
[07:38] <kimrhh> Xenguy_: think so, can I get gaim-2.0 beta on ubuntu another way ?
[07:38] <kimrhh> need a compiler anyway for my study
[07:39] <chapium> I dont have an issue with my 6th mouse button not working, however its mapped to act like the 3rd button
[07:39] <krotaz> hey, has anybody install the DRI driver for a intel 830M in ubuntu???
[07:39] <chapium> if I could map it to Alt + leftarrow i'd be stt
[07:39] <chapium> set
[07:39] <gill> soundray, it didn't have ink in it. I've fix that now
[07:39] <Venson> misfit_toy: ping
[07:40] <soundray> gill: yeah, inkjet printers kind of depend on ink...
[07:40] <gill> soundray, sometimes you just have to RTFM
[07:40] <grimboy> Hey, can anybody tell me why the included version of firefox throughs up a bunch of XUL errors whenever I try to download something?
[07:41] <grimboy> Am I doing something wrong?
[07:41] <soundray> gill: if all else fails...
[07:41] <krotaz> grimboy thats stragen I've used that version but no error yet
[07:41] <soundray> grimboy: is it possible that you updated it while it was running? If so, just restart ff
[07:41] <grimboy> Oh maybe, thanks.
[07:43] <grimboy> Yes, It's fixed thanks.
[07:45] <marek_> !xgl
[07:45] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:46] <Luke> when I go to Windows Network in nautilus, it has an error popup: ""smb:///" is not a valid location." Anyone know how to fix this?
[07:46] <edu> only on dapper? :-(
[07:46] <biovore> yeah.. needs the new xorg version to work..
[07:47] <edu> hey
[07:47] <edu> i've just installed ati xorg drivers
[07:47] <Kyler> My boss just experienced a problem that I "fixed" once before...but I don't recall how.  When he boots, Gnome comes up without any desktop icons.  I think I had to remove some temp. files before but my memory is failing me.
[07:47] <edu> if i restart they'll simply work?
[07:47] <joelbryan> hello, why does my netapplet displays the wrong interfaces?
[07:47] <Luke> joelbryan: click on it and then select the right one
[07:47] <edu> or have must i change the xorg.conf file?
[07:47] <biovore> edu: probably not..  you can always try
[07:48] <joelbryan> is that a bug?
[07:48] <Luke> joelbryan: it'll remember it next time you restart
[07:48] <Rhisc> hi
[07:48] <Rhisc> how do you change the login screen?
[07:48] <joelbryan> I just filed a bug report on that, Bug #42100
[07:48] <edu> bye
[07:48] <Dutchy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompileGaim <= I was at the very last step but i fucked up and forgot to change [version]  to the appropriate version and now it doesnt work, how do i correct it? it now links to a folder that obviously doesnt exist
[07:49] <biovore> change the login screen on gdm?
[07:49] <Rhisc> yes
[07:49] <biovore> at the login screen isn't there an option to configure gdm
[07:49] <biovore> I swore there was
[07:49] <roryy> Rhisc: system -> administration -> login screen setup
[07:49] <silent> it is possible, to change ubuntu dapper beta to official without reinstalling system?
[07:49] <jadaz87> !tell Dutchy about language
[07:50] <jadaz87> slient yes
[07:50] <Rhisc> roryy: thanks
[07:50] <silent> how? just type few commands?
[07:50] <jadaz87> silent running the upate manager
[07:50] <Dutchy> oh im sorry i said i %^&** up, could you please ignore that work and have a look at my question? :)
[07:50] <Dutchy> word*
[07:51] <gill> soundray, haha, the test print is just ejecting every pice of paper one by one ;-)
[07:51] <krotaz> has anybody installed DRI driver for a Intel 830M chipset, pleas help me!!!   :(
[07:51] <Dutchy> its most likely a simple command but I happen to be clueless
[07:51] <silent> just use update manager to change from beta to official? how it works? it will change all packages in my system or what?
[07:51] <roryy> Dutchy: you left out the [version]  ?
[07:52] <_jason> Dutchy: what part are you on?
[07:52] <jadaz87> silent it will do upgrades/updates just like you get now
[07:52] <biberao> hey
[07:52] <roryy> Dutchy: i'd just to 'ln -sf /opt/gaim[version] /bin/gaim /usr/bin/gaim'
[07:52] <roryy> do, even
[07:52] <Dutchy> the very last command, i left in [version]  which i should have replaced with -2.0.0beta3
[07:52] <biberao> how do i get my dear wireless card on ubuntu get net on it with wpa-sk?
[07:53] <jadaz87> silent just make sure you keep up with the updates during the dapper beta period so there will not be a pileload of updates
[07:53] <Dutchy> roryy, because i already made one incorrect this doesnt work
[07:53] <roryy> Dutchy: -f 'forces' ln to replace the existing one
[07:53] <krotaz> biberao wich chip does your card use???
[07:53] <drbreen> is there a way to disable the automounter for usb drives ?
[07:53] <_jason> Dutchy: sudo ln -fs /opt/gaim[version] /bin/gaim /usr/bin/gaim, but replace it this time :)
[07:53] <jadaz87> silent i upgraded from breezy to dapper :-D
[07:53] <Dutchy> roryy, ah ok thanks, ill try it
[07:53] <biberao> krotaz its a intel proset 2200
[07:53] <silent> update manager will "told me" about official version?
[07:54] <krotaz> biberao have you tried with ndiswrapper????
[07:54] <soundray> gill: at least there's progress ;)
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> drbreen,  i just edit the fstab and mount them manually
[07:55] <gill> soundray, indeed now mtink works and detects the printer and the ink levels but escutill is still dead
[07:55] <biberao> krotaz i just tried with networking thing
[07:55] <biberao> but just got wep
[07:55] <Dutchy> thanks roryy and _jason for the 'f', that worked... now lets hope i remember it for the next time i need to do something like this :)
[07:55] <krotaz> beberao: ok, hold on let me check if your chip is supported by ndiswrapper
[07:56] <biberao> ok thx
[07:57] <soundray> gill: much as I dislike recommending closed software, sometimes the only way to get a (newer) printer working is Turboprint.
[07:57] <drbreen> Dr_Willis: i want to disable automount for i administer a school internet cafe
[07:57] <drbreen> so i do not want people to be able to automount their drives
[07:57] <krotaz> biberao: on the command line put lspci and look for your wireless card
[07:57] <whyami> if I don't use a GUI with my ubuntu, is there a way to know if restart is required after apt-get upgrade?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> drbreen,  now - thats an interesting idea.
[07:57] <gill> soundray, I think if I can get the correct ppd it might work better, using the generic Epson Stylus ppd might not be so good. at least I know the escutill works to an extent
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> you mean not able to MOUNT their drives at all?
[07:58] <gnomefreak> whyami: more than likely just kernel updates or hal updates since you dont have gui
[07:58] <biberao> krotaz yes its there
[07:58] <krotaz> biberao: are you on a lap top???
[07:58] <biberao> a little far away
[07:58] <biberao> from it
[07:58] <biberao> lol
[07:58] <biberao> but i wrote what you said
[07:58] <biberao> :P
[07:58] <Spofer> Can someone explain to me what's the big deal of compiling drivers & other software to 64-bit cpus?
[07:58] <roryy> whyami: usually an update is only required if you've upgraded the kernel (linux-image-* packages), and perhaps the libc6 package.  Usually the mail advisories say whether or not a system restart is required.
[07:59] <biberao> i cant connect it to wired at the moment
[07:59] <drbreen> Dr_Willis: the problem is whenever a new drive is plugged in, konqueror or whatever on each client pops up a nice little windows stating it could not be opened
[07:59] <biovore> Spofer: differnt architecture..
[07:59] <drbreen> err mounted
[07:59] <whyami> roryy: what are the mail advisories? Is there a way to automate this? Right now it sounds like I have to look at what all the updates are.
[07:59] <gnomefreak> Spofer: alot of apps dont come pre-compilied for 64 bit
[07:59] <krotaz> biberao: the wireless card is pci or comes with your laptop???
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> drbreen,  kde has some feature where you can lockdown almost anything.
[08:00] <drbreen> Dr_Willis: in the end i want to write it into the fstab so they can mount it manually with option "user"
[08:00] <gill> soundray, interestinly gutenprint isn't available via apt-get
[08:00] <roryy> whyami: hrm. i don't know about automating it, sorry. i'll get the mailing list info for you
[08:00] <biberao> krotaz i did lpci and it appeared
[08:00] <Spofer> unless the code has specific calls to memory, what's the problem?
[08:00] <drbreen> Dr_Willis: where is it located ?
[08:00] <biberao> i dont know if its integrated or not
[08:00] <Spofer> what's different in the architecture?
[08:00] <Nafallo> has anyone seen /dev/md0p1? is it supposed to be generated automagically?
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> drbreen,  its a complex topic - ive seen covered in some web sites and a few mags..   kde has a lot of config files you cn tweak.
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> drbreen,  not sure about gnome.
[08:01] <gnomefreak> Spofer: mainly the processer
[08:01] <roryy> whyami: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce  -- has an archive there
[08:01] <Spofer> can you explain?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> Spofer: most apps for ubuntu are for 32 bit processors
[08:01] <whyami> roryy: I see. Thanks.
[08:02] <soundray> gill: it's probably still called gimp-print in the repos
[08:02] <gnomefreak> Spofer: 32bit= intel processors for most part 64 bit is the amd 64bit pro. and ppc are the mac ones
[08:02] <eod_punk> how do you tell what version of the kernel you have?
[08:02] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: amd64 is up-to-date. not many packages missing, and that's the way it's always been in Ubuntu.
[08:02] <Spofer> gnomefreak: but what's so different? how come you can't just recompile?
[08:02] <biberao> krotaz
[08:02] <biberao> ?
[08:02] <gnomefreak> Nafallo: i beg to differ you still cant get a working flash among other things
[08:02] <eod_punk> soundray: thanks for the help yesterday
[08:02] <gnomefreak> Spofer: re-compile what? the kernel?
[08:02] <soundray> eod_punk: how did you get on?
[08:02] <krotaz> biberao:your chipset is pro/wireless 2200 bg???
[08:03] <immolo> gnomefreak, thats the best part of 64bit no flash
[08:03] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: well, that's the one. the other is OO.o2 :-P.
[08:03] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:03] <Spofer> gnomefreak: the kernel - ok
[08:03] <eod_punk> soundray: i'm on it right now.  just trying to get my wifi card working
[08:03] <biberao> krotaz yes
[08:03] <Nafallo> immolo: word! :-)
[08:03] <roryy> Spofer: 32-bit has been the most common architecture for a long time, and a lot of coders made assumptions about the size of variables (say C's int type) which may not be valid on 64-bit systems. making code '64-bit clean' can be a big effort
[08:04] <gill> soundray, it's insalled, does that means it's an old version? should I download it drectly and compile it?
[08:04] <eod_punk> soundray: is there a command to tell what version of the kernel you have like in DOS?
[08:04] <soundray> eod_punk: uname -a
[08:04] <Nafallo> so, no input on where /dev/md0p1 might be?
[08:04] <eod_punk> soundray: thank you
[08:04] <Spofer> getting drivers for 64bit arch can be really frustrating
[08:04] <drbreen> Dr_Willis: i do not use gnome. kde is waaaaaaaay better than this interface-nazi-thing. for me.
[08:04] <krotaz> biberao: it seems to work (thats what ndiswrapper says,) check this link
[08:05] <krotaz> biberao: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#I
[08:05] <gnomefreak> Spofer: your better off running a 32 bit kernel if you can
[08:05] <biberao> see
[08:05] <Spofer> brb
[08:05] <gill> eod_punk, I've never seen that program in DOS ;-)
[08:05] <biberao> i cant download dude
[08:05] <biberao> .P
[08:05] <biberao> i mean i cant do any apt-gets
[08:05] <biberao> .p
[08:05] <eod_punk> i'm trying to fidle with ndiswrapper as well
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> drbreen,  i agree
[08:05] <melot> hello
[08:05] <erUSUL>  /away
[08:05] <soundray> gill: if you feel up to it, sure. If you're conservative, its better to stick with what the repositories provide.
[08:05] <soundray> it's
[08:06] <melot> im having problems on my FWD  and stanaphone account
[08:06] <melot> can anyone help me?
[08:06] <x405> Uh, what kind of help do you need?
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> :0
[08:07] <melot> the software is use is SJphone, somtimes it connects and sometimes it doesnt
[08:07] <melot> when i use the other PC in windows it connects flawlessly
[08:07] <snoopy__89> hi guys, one question, I've just installed Ubuntu I am trying setup some more soft on my comp. I really dont know how can log in as a root on my ubuntu is it necessairly to instal anyth.? am a begining user ... some hints ?
[08:07] <krotaz> biberao: ok, if you go to System--->Administration ----->Network
[08:07] <soundray> !tell snoopy__89 about root
[08:08] <HymnToLife> !tell snoopy__89 about root
[08:08] <Spofer> gnomefreak: what's the deal with flash?
[08:08] <melot> im supecting my ubuntu to have some mapping problems or so
[08:08] <biberao> krotaz
[08:08] <biberao> the problem is
[08:08] <biberao> it doesnt appear
[08:08] <biberao> the WPA option
[08:08] <biberao> its only WEP
[08:08] <x405> melot: Have you checked the packet loss?
[08:08] <soundray> !enter
[08:08] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:08] <melot> well im pinging the server well
[08:09] <x405> What's the packet loss at? 0%?
[08:09] <melot> x405: how to check packetloss?
[08:09] <fiendskull9> hey, is synaptic open sourced?
[08:09] <soundray> Spofer: you need 32-bit Firefox to run the Macromedia flash plugin
[08:10] <krotaz> ok so ubuntu detects your card but you have to connect usin WPA intead of WEP???
[08:10] <Oradeanul> i`m having trouble setting up a virtual host on apache ...anyone can help ?
[08:10] <Spofer> but i can't run the 32-bit firefox on the 64-bit ubuntu.... :)
[08:10] <drbreen> finedskull9: i suppose
[08:10] <Spofer> soundray: or can i?
[08:10] <gnomefreak> you can if you run it in chroot iirc
[08:10] <fiendskull9> drbreen, alright, i dont mean all of apt, just the gui PM.
[08:10] <biberao> krotaz yes
[08:10] <soundray> Spofer: you can, but it takes a bit of fiddling.
[08:10] <x405> Open up a console, type in ping and the IP address or domain name of whatever you're having issues with. ie to ping google, you type in: ping google.com
[08:11] <soundray> Spofer: someone reported here that they were able to run the 32-bit version, downloaded direct from mozilla.org
[08:11] <melot> x405 ok saw it...it says %0
[08:11] <soundray> Spofer: the clean way is to set up a 32-bit chroot environment, though
[08:11] <soundray> !chroot
[08:11] <ubotu> well, chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[08:11] <Spofer> soundray: just run it? no emulation or anything?
[08:11] <gnomefreak> soundray: sounds like someone had a few too many to drink lol
[08:11] <melot> 5 pockets sent and recieved
[08:11] <melot> packets
[08:11] <x405> melot: Uhm, is this windows?
[08:12] <krotaz> ok let me check the forums because i've never done a connection with wpa but we can learn hold on
[08:12] <gnomefreak> x405: no
[08:12] <melot> x405 ubuntu linux
[08:12] <cT|Binary> Im new to linux, so I have a question, im dual booting windows/ubuntu and should I format the second partition in FAT32?
[08:12] <gnomefreak> cT|Binary: do you have windows installed already?
[08:12] <biberao> ok thx dude
[08:12] <x405> Ah, because I'm running debian, and the ping command keeps pinging untill I stop it.
[08:12] <cT|Binary> yes
[08:12] <drbreen> fiendskull9: http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/
[08:12] <melot> x405: so am i
[08:12] <gnomefreak> cT|Binary: do you have ubuntu installed already?
[08:12] <cT|Binary> nope
[08:13] <gnomefreak> ah
[08:13] <cT|Binary> :S
[08:13] <gnomefreak> cT|Binary: no dont use fat32 use ext3
[08:13] <gill> heh gcc isn't installed
[08:13] <gleesond> how do I stop ubuntu from overwrighing my /etc/resolv.conf... it trys to auto detect the nameservers but gets the wrong ip's I know the right ip's
[08:13] <cT|Binary> ok thank you
[08:13] <soundray> Spofer: no emulation or anything. You do need some 32-bit libraries I think.
[08:13] <melot> x405: what sip do you use?
[08:13] <gnomefreak> gill: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:13] <drbreen> cT|Binary: use reiserfs ;)
[08:13] <CanadianSnow> I think my "tar" is broken
[08:13] <soundray> Spofer: but they may be the same ones that come with Openoffice
[08:13] <gnomefreak> CanadianSnow: how do you figure?
[08:13] <CanadianSnow> !pastebin
[08:13] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:14] <Spofer> soundray: OpenOffice is 32-bit?
[08:14] <gnomefreak> Spofer: yes
[08:14] <gill> gnomefreak, thanks
[08:14] <gnomefreak> gill: yw
[08:14] <Spofer> That's interesting....
[08:14] <gnomefreak> there might be an OOo 64bit
[08:15] <eod_punk> am I correct in thinking that a copy of the kernel source does not get installed from a default inubuntu install?
[08:15] <eod_punk> *ubuntu
[08:15] <HymnToLife> eod_punk> yes you are
[08:15] <gnomefreak> eod_punk: corret
[08:15] <gnomefreak> correct even
[08:15] <gnomefreak> apt can get it though iirc
[08:16] <CanadianSnow> check pastebin just put it in
[08:16] <eod_punk> how would one go about putting one in /usr/src/ ?
[08:16] <gnomefreak> CanadianSnow: can you paste the link?
[08:16] <Oradeanul> i need something.domain.com to go in a directory, but I also want domain.com to go somewhere else ..., domain.com and http://ip are working fine (each in it's own directory) but the subdomain something.domain doesn't want to work, do you want me to paste the lines in apache somewhere?
[08:16] <x405> melot: sip? Sorry. I've spent the last two days dealing with a router from hell.
[08:16] <nono> ??
[08:17] <CanadianSnow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13083   ?????????/
[08:17] <Drac[Server] > I changed the hostname via the "hostname" command and changed /etc/hosts accordingly. Why has the hostname reverted to the old one? What can I do to permanently change it?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> CanadianSnow: are you cd'ed to wher eyou downloaded the tar?
[08:17] <CanadianSnow> Desktop
[08:17] <gleesond> how do I stop ubuntu from overwrighing my /etc/resolv.conf... it trys to auto detect the nameservers but gets the wrong ip's I know the right ip's
[08:17] <gnomefreak> CanadianSnow: and you cd Desktop before running that command?
[08:17] <krotaz> biberao: wich ubuntu are you using??? breezy, hoary or drapper???
[08:18] <HymnToLife> Dapper, not Drapper ;)
[08:18] <gnomefreak> CanadianSnow: delete the tar and clear your download history and re download the tar (saw this this morning
[08:18] <CanadianSnow> oh wow, thx nm the filename was wrong
[08:18] <gnomefreak> ah
[08:18] <bakert> hey all hi
[08:18] <gnomefreak> CanadianSnow: you can use tab complete
[08:18] <CanadianSnow> caz I have an older downloaded one i guess and it doesn't have the .0.2
[08:18] <gnomefreak> ah
[08:19] <CanadianSnow> tab complete?
[08:19] <x405> Uh, real quick. Anyone have a cheatlist for the codes for the live-cd? I'm booting it on an old desktop...doesn't seem to like the video display. Works fine untill it starts the xserver, then the display looks like a fuzzy TV.
[08:19] <Drac[Server] > CanadianSnow: type a partial filename or path, then hit the tab key.
[08:19] <gnomefreak> CanadianSnow: yes like you do in here type first few letters of it and hit tab button
[08:20] <CanadianSnow> cool thx :P
[08:20] <dj_baggio> hi :)
[08:20] <_jason> x405: it should let you press f1 for a menu I think expert is 'expert' or 'live-expert', something like that...
[08:20] <CanadianSnow> bye people
[08:20] <krotaz> biberao!!!!
[08:20] <biberao> yes pls
[08:20] <melot_> anyone here using a SIP on ubuntu?
[08:20] <PantyTickler> is there an ndis wrapper gui
[08:20] <krotaz> wich ubuntu are you using??? drapper, hoary or breezy???
[08:20] <Oradeanul> i need something.domain.com to go in a directory, but I also want domain.com to go somewhere else ..., domain.com and http://ip are working fine (each in it's own directory) but the subdomain something.domain doesn't want to work, do you want me to paste the lines in apache somewhere?
[08:20] <melot_> 5.10 breezely
[08:21] <x405> Yeah I know that, but I was just looking for a way to use minimal vga and not try to use any specific drivers, just to trouble shoot.
[08:21] <krotaz> sorry melot I was asking to biberao
[08:21] <pilgrim> I'm trying to setup a secure account in evolution . In the account  editor  in the sending tab I changed "use secure connection " to "always". Now what do I do?
[08:21] <melot_> ohh oki
[08:21] <biberao> krotaz dapper
[08:21] <krotaz> it seems you have to have internet access.
[08:22] <gnomefreak> biberao: please join #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[08:22] <biberao> krotaz
[08:22] <biberao> thats the problem
[08:22] <biberao> :P
[08:22] <krotaz> mmm sorry pal, have to go, but check the ubuntuforums there are some ways there
[08:22] <krotaz> bye
[08:22] <Drac[Server] > I changed the hostname via the "hostname" command and changed /etc/hosts accordingly. Why has the hostname reverted to the old one? What can I do to permanently change it?
[08:23] <biberao> ok thx
[08:23] <biberao> byebye
[08:23] <Seveas> Drac[Server] , check /etc/hostname
[08:23] <eod_punk> ok I believe that tar is a compression format but what is the gz?
[08:24] <gnomefreak> gz=gunzip iirc
[08:24] <Seveas> eod_punk, gz is the compression, tar is just putting several files in one file
[08:24] <x405> gz is a compression format, tar just globs the files...Ithink
[08:24] <eod_punk> ahhh ok so i had it backwards
[08:24] <eod_punk> thanks
[08:24] <eod_punk> so much stuff to learn now
[08:25] <tweety> hello
[08:26] <eod_punk> hi tweety
[08:26] <gnomefreak> hi
[08:27] <tweety> i'm looking for some program for ubuntu like MC
[08:27] <gnomefreak> tweety: ubuntu has MC if you mean midnight commander
[08:27] <eod_punk> thanks for all the help everyone i'll be back later i'm sure, i need to go do some manual labor now
[08:27] <tweety> ohh thanks
[08:27] <gnomefreak> !info mc
[08:27] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[08:28] <gnomefreak> tweety: you need to enable universe repos
[08:28] <PantyTickler> installed automatix with firefox lpugins, but windows media files crash firefox, any suggestions
[08:28] <gnomefreak> PantyTickler: dont use automatix please
[08:28] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[08:28] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> Please - just Say no to Automatix
[08:28] <DeepSpaceAnt> hey guys, i have a mysql server running and im trying to connect to it through a program running on a different machine and i get "x.x.x.x is not allowed to connect to this server" - how can i allow all IP's to connect to my mysql server
[08:29] <drbreen> !easyubuntu
[08:29] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[08:29] <PantyTickler> i only used it for java and firefox plugins
[08:29] <Pluk> !bumps
[08:29] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Pluk
[08:29] <HymnToLife> DeepSpaceAnt> this is lightly offtopic here... read the mysql manual, it's all witen in there
[08:32] <PantyTickler> cause then you have to reconfigure pluginsjava
[08:32] <gnomefreak> you do? i never had to configure plug ins for java
[08:32] <slyguy> anyone know the default root password on oem dapper drake 6.06 ???
[08:32] <PantyTickler> plugins for firefox
[08:32] <gnomefreak> slyguy: your user password
[08:33] <gnomefreak> PantyTickler: no you dont
[08:33] <Spofer> how do i make the x reload the xorg.conf file?
[08:33] <richard_> hi
[08:33] <Flannel> !tell slyguy about root
[08:33] <richard_> hi can anyone tell me how to make a trashcan?
[08:33] <slyguy> and what if that isn't working?
[08:33] <PantyTickler> well doesnt matter cause automatix saved the hassle
[08:33] <HymnToLife> Spofer> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[08:34] <slyguy> Flannel: there's not anything else to try?
[08:34] <Flannel> PantyTickler: automatix is a horrible idea.
[08:34] <_jason> richard_: there should be one in your panel, if it got removed just right click on the panel > add to panel and select trash can
[08:34] <Flannel> slyguy: there is no root password.
[08:34] <schultzi> ok, im on a livecd now, and i need to mount /dev/hda3 somewhere so i can copy live cd files to it, but when i try to mount it in a directory that i specify, it wont mount, can anyone help?
[08:34] <HymnToLife> PantyTickler> if you don't want any hassle, go back to Windows...
[08:34] <PantyTickler> seems to work fine for me
[08:34] <Flannel> !automatix
[08:34] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[08:34] <gnomefreak> PantyTickler: we dont deal with automatix i would talk to arnieboy (the person who wrote it)
[08:34] <drbreen> schultzi: use sudo
[08:34] <slyguy> !automatix
[08:34] <Flannel> use EasyUbuntu next time
[08:34] <whiteshadow> quit
[08:34] <drbreen> sudo mount /dev/stuff /stuff
[08:34] <schultzi> drbreen: i am
[08:35] <salpta> is this a good place for a general question, or is there a better channel for a question concerning apt-get?
[08:35] <linuxgeekery> !tell schultzi about mount
[08:35] <HymnToLife> you can ask here salpta
[08:35] <_richard> anyone know where the trashcan folder is?
[08:35] <_richard> or make a new trashcon on panel?
[08:35] <_richard> *trashcan
[08:35] <gnomefreak> _richard: ~/.trash i think
[08:35] <gnomefreak> _richard: right click panel and add trashcan
[08:36] <salpta> ok then, How do I keep apt-get from trying to search the install cd when trying to upgrade certain packages?
[08:36] <linuxgeekery> _richard: right click, add to panel, trash
[08:36] <gnomefreak> right click panel add to panel than trashcan
[08:36] <_richard> theres only add to panel
[08:36] <gnomefreak> or trash
[08:36] <gnomefreak> _richard: after you click add to panel
[08:36] <linuxgeekery> salpta: remove it from /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:36] <_richard> theres no trashcan
[08:36] <gnomefreak> or just put a # infront of it
[08:36] <_richard> to add on
[08:36] <linuxgeekery> salpta: I think you can also do that from synaptic, but I never use synaptic
[08:36] <salpta> thats just it, it isnt in the list but its still saying to insert the disk.
[08:37] <drbreen> but there has to be a trashcan ?
[08:37] <gnomefreak> _richard: wastebasket
[08:37] <slyguy> flannel: I had to set my current pass to something else and then change the root
[08:37] <drbreen> ah!
[08:37] <_richard> nope
[08:37] <_richard> no wastebasket
[08:37] <gnomefreak> ummmmmmm i was just in there
[08:37] <_richard> nvm
[08:37] <_richard> got it
[08:37] <_richard> thanks
[08:37] <_richard> guys
[08:37] <drbreen> _richard: what have you done to mess this up ?
[08:37] <Madpilot> !enter
[08:37] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:37] <Flannel> slyguy: I don't believe you.  Unless you've changed something.  ask in #ubuntu+1 (I presume youre on dapper) if theres a bug regarding it or not.
[08:37] <_richard> i accidnetally delteted the default panel
[08:38] <_richard> its cool now thanks
[08:38] <_richard> another problem
[08:38] <_richard> does anyone know how to restart the script for svn for amarocK?
[08:38] <gnomefreak> _richard: please say a full line stop hitting enter after every word or two
[08:39] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, saw you were going for membership - cool! Good luck.
[08:39] <gnomefreak> ty Madpilot
[08:40] <marcus_> hi
[08:40] <slyguy> Flannel: I don't know but now it works...
[08:40] <esor> czym sie rozni automatix od easyubuntu?
[08:41] <Flannel> esor: easyubuntu, although I don't understand the question.
[08:41] <esor> ups sry wrong window
[08:41] <esor> !!
[08:41] <ubotu> esor: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:41] <Belkin> !mplayer
[08:41] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:41] <esor> I mean what Is difference between Automatix and EasyUbuntu
[08:42] <_richard> does anyone know how to resrt the script for amarocK?
[08:42] <jramsey> how can i display the version of binutils i have installed?
[08:43] <Flannel> esor: if you go to the easyUbuntu page, they have a comparison
[08:43] <gnomefreak> esor: easyubuntu is written and maintained by ubuntu members afaik and automatix is writtena nd maintained (if maintained) by a single user who doesnt even support it if you have an issue
[08:43] <gnomefreak> oh and the way the code is ran
[08:44] <esor> ty ;)
[08:44] <Belkin> xchat doesnt start it says " Segmentation fault " any ideea ?
[08:44] <Drac[Server] > How do you change the controls in fceu?
[08:44] <Varios> I'm looking to install a new splash screen.  I looked at the wiki, and it said that the PNG must be 640 x 480 16 colors.  Is this  rule set in stone?
[08:44] <gnomefreak> jramsey: apt-cache policy program name
[08:45] <jramsey> gnomefreak, ty
[08:45] <gnomefreak> Varios: i wouold say yes since the word must is used
[08:45] <ubuntu> r there anyone writes in turkish
[08:45] <gnomefreak> jramsey: yw
[08:45] <PantyTickler> okay lets start the kde vs gnome argument...:P
[08:45] <gnomefreak> jramsey: you might beable to do binutil --version
[08:45] <gnomefreak> or somethng like that
[08:46] <gnomefreak> PantyTickler: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[08:46] <PantyTickler> i was kidding
[08:46] <HymnToLife> both suck anyway, whoo needs GUIq ? :p
[08:46] <HymnToLife> GUIs*
[08:46] <jramsey> gnomefreak, i also saw ld -v but the apt-cache seems like the more consistent way across all installed pkgs; and i did try binutil -v but it's a collection of utilities so apt-cache is the way to go
[08:46] <x405> People who like to run more than one program at a time?
[08:47] <Belkin> xchat doesnt start it just flash the screen and then its quit ... it says " Segmentation fault " any ideea ?
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> Belkin,  which is to say.. "its crashing" :P
[08:47] <x405> Belkin: Messed up settings?
[08:47] <HymnToLife> x405> you know you can run multiple comand lines at a time, just press Crtl+Alt+F(1~9) ;)
[08:47] <Belkin> x405 i didnt touch anything
[08:48] <gnomefreak> Belkin: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xchat
[08:48] <eugman> Anyone know all the programs that can open .dar files?
[08:48] <x405> Yeah...but keeping track of which virtual console has which program...not all that fun...
[08:48] <gnomefreak> eugman: dar files?
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> eugman,  i cant say that ive ever seen a .dar file befor
[08:48] <Papageno> How do I determine what my network card's MAC is?
[08:48] <x405> papa: ifconfig
[08:48] <gnomefreak> Papageno: ifconfig
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> ifconfig shows it i think
[08:48] <haakonn_> ifconfig -a
[08:49] <gnomefreak> eugman: do you mean tar files?
[08:49] <Papageno> Thanks!
[08:49] <x405> Look for 'HWaddr'
[08:49] <eugman> nope
[08:49] <Belkin> gnomefreak thanks ... trying
[08:49] <eugman> Kdar makes .dar files
[08:49] <haakonn_> oh, -a is only necessary on windows, never mind :)
[08:49] <Belkin> gnomefreak same thing
[08:49] <gnomefreak> dont know what kdar is but if it makes them it should beable to open them
[08:50] <Belkin> yeah it should
[08:50] <eugman> It can but as far as I know the only program that can open then on windows is dar.
[08:50] <holysmoke> whats the best way to add a second storage drive to fstab?
[08:50] <gnomefreak> Belkin: sudo apt-get remove --purge xchat  than sudo apt-get install xchat
[08:50] <holysmoke> my computer sees the draive as hdb1 but I cant mount it
[08:51] <eugman> dar is command line and I perfer gui unarchivers when possible.
[08:51] <Drac[Server] > Doesn't ANYONE know how to configure fceultra?!
[08:51] <gnomefreak> eugman: im gonna go out on a limb and say ubuntu doesnt deal with dar files
[08:51] <x405> Ugg...okay, I'm having some problems booting a livecd on an older desktop, the display is...well...pretty glitchy.
[08:51] <Papageno> How do I tell Ubuntu to reset its network connections and re-setup through the DHCP?
[08:51] <x405> Looks like a combination of abstract art and a fuzzy tv.
[08:52] <nomike> hi
[08:52] <x405> The CD just booted perfectly on an alternate computer, and widows 2000 works fine on the one that's giving problems.
[08:52] <nomike> I could not get java in opera 9 working (dapper)
[08:52] <eugman> gnomefreak , in what way do you mean? That it's really out of the mainstream or do you mean something else?
[08:52] <nomike> could you please help me
[08:52] <Drac[Server] > I'm going nuts, here.
[08:53] <gnomefreak> eugman: im willing to bet there isnt a program for ubuntu to open dar files or make them
[08:53] <HymnToLife> x405> maybe it's using a resolution higher thn the minitor can support
[08:54] <x405> Hymn, I tried it at 800x600 in 16 bit...in 2000 it works fine at the 1280xwhatever setting at 24 bit.
[08:54] <Drac[Server] > Doesn't anyone use emulators on Linux anymore?! D:
[08:54] <x405> Drac, have you read the man pages?
[08:54] <Drac[Server] > x405: Yes. They're useless.
[08:54] <alejandro> Hay latinos
[08:54] <eugman> !info libdar2c2
[08:54] <ubotu> libdar2c2: (Disk ARchive: Shared library), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 2.2.1-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 423 kB, Installed size: 1124 kB
[08:54] <x405> drac: Have you checked their website?
[08:54] <eugman> !info kdar
[08:54] <ubotu> kdar: (archive data to disc), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 2.0.6-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1271 kB, Installed size: 2268 kB
[08:54] <gill> Totem could not start: The video output is in use by another application
[08:55] <freemanen> is there anyway to get linux games that requiers direct x 9 to work in linux with wine?
[08:55] <gill> no idea what is using the video output ..,.
[08:55] <oblib> I can't figure out what I set my samba password as (or if I even did). How can I reset it or remove it?
[08:55] <x405> freeman: There's a thing called cedega.
[08:55] <x405> It's basically a commercial port of wine.
[08:55] <x405> Works better, but you have to pay for it.
[08:55] <gill> x405, damn BSD licence has ruined wine
[08:56] <oblib> yeah, we would be better off without any gaming alternatives </sarcasm>
[08:56] <x405> Check it out at http://www.transgaming.com/ there's a free two week trial.
[08:57] <freemanen> oki thanks
[08:57] <jramsey> Papageno, do u have dhcp-client installed?
[08:57] <gill> oblib, we would be better if people could honour their source code by not making money out of someone elses work, do you think any of the wine companies would have a product at all without the original wine?
[08:58] <gill> oblib, at the very least give some of the code back to the original project, if not run your business on a suport modle
[08:59] <eugman> sbackup doesn't do archiving , correct?
[08:59] <PantyTickler> has the GPL actually ever been held up in court
[08:59] <gill> PantyTickler, yes check out the FSF website, they use the terms in court all the time
[09:00] <oblib> gill, yes of course that would be nice, but I doubt without transgaming we would have any good game version of Wine. I don't subscribe by the way.
[09:00] <Drac[Server] > x405: AHA! I hate manfiles. README files are so much more useful. I found what I need.
[09:01] <Mesh> is this the german or english channel?
[09:01] <oblib> I can't figure out what I set my samba password as (or if I even did). How can I reset it or remove it?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> english
[09:01] <nomike> Mesh: german one is #ubuntu.de
[09:01] <PantyTickler> kew
[09:01] <x405> Mesh: Ach lebershun der vonch!
[09:01] <Mesh> thanks!
[09:02] <x405> I have no clue what I said...
[09:02] <bosco> so has anyone messed with the timeout of sudo
[09:02] <gill> oblib, I'm not against business making money out of OSS per say, but I'd rather they would play fair, forking free software into propritory is not moraly right, even if it is legal.
[09:02] <nomike> x405: at least it's not german
[09:02] <PantyTickler> you said your wife has huge pink nipples
[09:02] <LetsSurf> hello all
[09:03] <LetsSurf> how do I upgrade Ubuntu BB to Ubuntu DD
[09:03] <gnomefreak> gill: PantyTickler please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:03] <LetsSurf> ?
[09:03] <oblib> can anyone help me?
[09:03] <bosco> oblib, on what?
[09:03] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: change the sources to point to dapper instead of breezy and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:04] <oblib> I can't figure out what I set my samba password as (or if I even did). How can I reset it or remove it?
[09:04] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: thanks ;)
[09:04] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: for more in depth look please join #ubuntu+1
[09:04] <HymnToLife> oblib> sudo smbpasswd -a username
[09:04] <sklav> hey guys whats the name of a personal finance software on linux?
[09:04] <bosco> oblib, your sudo password
[09:04] <gill> gnucsh
[09:04] <PantyTickler> oblib: uninstall reinstall
[09:04] <gill> gnucash rather
[09:04] <HymnToLife> sklav> GNUCash if I remember well
[09:04] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: before you do any of that please install ubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <sklav> thanks HymnToLife
[09:05] <sklav> that is what i was looking for
[09:05] <sklav> i was thinking gnumeric
[09:05] <sklav> but that was not it
[09:05] <sklav> ;)
[09:05] <eugman> I want to do full system archive backups on my computer. Do I have any options?
[09:05] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: ok will do that first
[09:05] <bosco> oblib, you best bet is to do a complete reinstall
[09:06] <amonkey> how can i play a folder like a dvd? all the vobs and what not are in the folder.
[09:06] <oblib> HymnToLife, it says Sorry, try again
[09:06] <sklav> amonkey, try xine or mplayer
[09:06] <gnomefreak> !dvd
[09:06] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[09:07] <oblib> bosco, isn't there an easy way to require no authentication?
[09:07] <LetsSurf> I'm so impressed with ubuntu, taken xp of my laptop and now working with ubuntu :)
[09:07] <amonkey> sklav, i know i can watch a dvd with those programs when it's on a disk, but i can't get it to use a folder with vobs in it
[09:07] <LetsSurf> just managed to get wlan working on it, wasn't easiest thing in the world with wpa etc but get it works now :)
[09:07] <sklav> that im not sure
[09:07] <sklav> but i would assume so
[09:08] <kbrooks> hmm
[09:08] <bosco> oblib, well i dont know on that one i have never had to do that i always new my sudo password but just take everything you need and put it on an external and then reinstall
[09:08] <jramsey> how often is /var/log/syslog created? if it is daily, how many days of syslogs are kept? is this configurable?
[09:09] <oblib> bosco, so you use your sudo password when you log on to share from Windows?
[09:09] <william__> is there any way I can make a bash script input my password? i have a script that needs to be run in root but I don't want to type in my password everytime
[09:10] <sklav> willian try running it thre cron if possible as user root
[09:10] <x405> chmod it to suid.
[09:10] <LetsSurf> brb reboot, fingers crossed
[09:10] <oblib> william__, have you ever worked with your sudoers file?
[09:10] <william__> i don't know what a sudoers file is so no.
[09:10] <x405> Try chown'ing the file to root, then chmod it +s.
[09:10] <bosco> oblib, you best bet is to install vmware on that one i dont know aobut that one but if you can let me know
[09:11] <x405> The file will run with root permission no matter who runs it.
[09:11] <bosco> oblib, and try and boot your windows partition inside of windows
[09:11] <william__> how do i chown something
[09:11] <bosco> oblib,  my bad inside of linux
[09:11] <oblib> bosco, ? I am sharing ubuntu files with a windows computer over the network
[09:11] <bosco> oblib, well then thta is possible
[09:11] <x405> As root: chown root file
[09:12] <edgardpacheco> Hello everybody :)
[09:12] <x405> So, if the file is named hello, you type: chown root hello
[09:12] <jramsey> william__, sudo chown rood fname
[09:12] <jramsey> root
[09:12] <edgardpacheco> what does the "chown" command do?
[09:12] <bosco> oblib once in windows no root password should be required
[09:12] <sklav> chown = change ownership
[09:13] <edgardpacheco> oh
[09:13] <oblib> william__, the sudoers file allows you to execute a file without typing your password everytime
[09:13] <edgardpacheco> thanks
[09:13] <jramsey> edgardpacheco, changes file owner
[09:13] <bosco> brb everyone
[09:13] <edgardpacheco> :)
[09:13] <x405> Then you want to chmod it.
[09:13] <oblib> bosco, that's the problem, it's asking for a password in Windows
[09:13] <x405> chmod +s file
[09:13] <x405> chmod +x file
[09:13] <sklav> sudo user filename will ask for a password even on my system
[09:14] <william__> the chown thing worked, thank you very much jramsey
[09:14] <jramsey> william__, np
[09:14] <oblib> william__, if your script is "/usr/bin/hello" than putting this line in /etc/sudoers will let you run it without a password:   [yourusername]  ALL= PASSWD:ALL, NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/hello
[09:14] <oblib> mine has this for example
[09:14] <oblib> %admin ALL= PASSWD:ALL, NOPASSWD:/sbin/halt
[09:15] <oblib> that lets everyone in the admin group run halt without a password.
[09:15] <whiter> !java
[09:15] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:15] <bosco> oblib, well then put it back in linux and put it back as non  root
[09:15] <william__> oh ok. thanks everyone.
[09:17] <biovore> 221 Error: I can break rules, too, Goodbye         Conntion closed by foreign host..       Its intressting what weird stuff you find when messing with postfix
[09:17] <jramsey> so oblib if i want to not have to enter a pw for every sudo cmd, what should my  sudoers look like for my username, jramsey?
[09:19] <gymsmoke> anyone tried the global search and replace in vi on Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[09:19] <odat> hi everyone
[09:19] <gymsmoke> it doesn't seem to work!
[09:20] <gymsmoke> :s/old/new/g - says "Pattern not found: old"
[09:20] <gaatmx> hi there: Could someone please direct me to the  dapper support chanel?
[09:20] <gymsmoke> but /old - goes right to the first occurrence
[09:20] <LetsSurf> I'm trying to install VLC, i've added universe my sources.list, but when I try to install I get some errors, vlc: Depends: libavahi-client3 (>= 0.6.0) but it is not installable
[09:20] <gnomefreak> gaatmx: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[09:20] <oblib> jramsey, like this:
[09:21] <oblib> hold on
[09:21] <oblib> jramsey ALL= NOPASSWD:ALL
[09:21] <oblib> I think
[09:21] <oblib> Definitely not recommended though.
[09:22] <jramsey> oblib, is the first ALL for all machines? i see it seems to be a machine name in the INFO pages
[09:22] <oblib> you aren't the root user for a reason, and one of those reasons is system security
[09:22] <oblib> jramsey, I'm not sure, I think I got mine off the internet.
[09:23] <jramsey> oblib, yeah it took some getting used to where ubuntu doesnt really have a root user; i am used to being root but it is safer the way ubuntu does it
[09:23] <gymsmoke> yep - this is a bug
[09:23] <nice> nalioth are you here?
[09:23] <oblib> jramsey, really once the system is set up, you shouldn't need to sudo that much anyway. I ended up adding the things that still come up often. It looks like this:
[09:24] <Nomad411> Hi.  WHat is teh equivalent of Kontact/Korganizer in gnome?
[09:24] <oblib> %admin ALL= PASSWD:ALL, NOPASSWD:/sbin/halt,/sbin/reboot,/bin/mount,/bin/umount,/etc/init.d/mythtv-backend,/usr/local/sbin/hibernate,/usr/bin/eject,/usr/bin/mythfrontend,/etc/acpi/30-lirc.sh,/etc/init.d/mythtv-backend,/etc/acpi/sleep.sh,/usr/local/bin/jack-rack,/usr/bin/mplayer
[09:24] <grey> nomad411, evolution is good
[09:24] <oblib> For my MythTV box
[09:24] <gymsmoke> is launchpad.ubuntu.net the site to file bug reports on?
[09:24] <gnomefreak> !bug
[09:24] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[09:25] <jramsey> grey, i still havent gotten evolution set up right for comcast broadband but i havent gotten back to it; in mail is fine
[09:25] <gymsmoke> gnomefreak: thanks... vi is broke in Ubuntu
[09:25] <jramsey> oblib, ty
[09:25] <gnomefreak> gymsmoke: look for a bug on that before posting one
[09:25] <gnomefreak> gymsmoke: iirc there is one or 2 already
[09:25] <grey> jramsey, evolution will download mail from your comcast inbox or not?
[09:26] <LetsSurf> wheres the best place to get themes from ?
[09:26] <gymsmoke> gnomefreak: searching for "vi search and replace" none found... guess not too many people use vi any more
[09:26] <gnomefreak> gnome-look.org or art.gnome.com  LetsSurf
[09:26] <Spec> How can I find out what's "using" my entropy? :-/
[09:26] <biovore> (evolution should be able to download from a comcast pop box)
[09:26] <jramsey> grey, yeah inbox is fine; i cannot send but i know it is because i've the settings wrong ... i have encryption enabled and i am unsure .. comcast web site is useless
[09:26] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: thanks
[09:26] <gnomefreak> biovore: check under vim since vi isnt in ubuntu
[09:27] <LetsSurf> anyone one have any idea why VLC, is failing to install for me ?? vlc: Depends: libavahi-client3 (>= 0.6.0) but it is not installable
[09:27] <gnomefreak> sorry not biovore  i meant gymsmoke
[09:27] <x405> Lets, are you using apt/dpkg?
[09:27] <morgoth666> why
[09:27] <gymsmoke> gnomefreak: ok
[09:27] <bliss_> hi
[09:27] <biovore> jramsey: I don't think comcast runs ssl
[09:27] <andres_> hi
[09:28] <grey> jramsey, have you seen http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=EmailOutlook_Express17686 ?  You can follow most settings for evolution
[09:28] <LetsSurf> x405: apt
[09:28] <morgoth666> why
[09:28] <x405> Lets: When was the last time you did apt-get update?
[09:28] <LetsSurf> x405: 5mins ago
[09:28] <jramsey> biovore, i am unsure ... grey i called comcast "high quality tech support" and they said :) "we don't support full Outlook only Outlook express" so i will go cherry pick my full Outlook settings and see if that works but i went thru this once already
[09:28] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: maybe enable multiverse
[09:29] <x405> Hmm, odd.
[09:29] <morgoth666> why
[09:29] <Spec> do dns servers use random?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> morgoth666: ok you can stop that now
[09:29] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: that different that universe I asume
[09:29] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: yes
[09:29] <grey> jramsey, there doesn't seem to be any special security settings for comcast's outgoing smtp server.  you should be able to use smtp.comcast.net for outgoing
[09:29] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: on the lines that end in universe add a space and type multiverse
[09:30] <gymsmoke> jramsey: time for a new isp
[09:30] <bliss_> i am in a liveCD as i cannot boot into my ubuntu desktop
[09:31] <moparfan90> hello. whats the command to start apache?
[09:31] <jramsey> grey the Use Secure Connection checkbox throws me because it isn't in Outlook and i'm not sure about the Authentication Type
[09:31] <andres_> ubuntu_es
[09:31] <dereks> moparfan90: /etc/init.d/httpd start
[09:31] <HymnToLife> moparfan90> if it is installed it shoul run on bootup
[09:31] <dereks> i believe
[09:32] <HymnToLife> but sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start should do the trick if it doesn't for some reason
[09:32] <jramsey> gymsmoke, if comcast cannot get their cable access more reliable (it goes down on a daily basis) i am going
[09:32] <moparfan90> dereks, no such file or directory
[09:32] <eugman> Is there a trivial way to have a full system backup to which an installation can be rolled back to?
[09:32] <dereks> moparfan90: then do that but instead of httpd do apache2
[09:32] <moparfan90> o0k
[09:33] <grey> jramsey try "never"
[09:33] <sharpy> how do install a package again with apt-get install? i pressed control c by mistake..
[09:33] <holysmoke>  can anyone please help my getting a secondary harddrive recognized in fstab? I get the error that the mount pount /mnt/storage doesnt exist, how do I create that mount point?
[09:33] <morgoth666> why
[09:33] <nansub0111> hello all. each time I do an update. the syntaptic update manager tells me it can not update totem. has anyone had a similar problem and do u know how to fix it?
[09:33] <grey> sharpy dpkg --configure -a, I think
[09:33] <morgoth666> why
[09:33] <HymnToLife> holysmoke> sudo mkdit /path/to/mount/point
[09:33] <HymnToLife> mkdir*
[09:33] <holysmoke> thanks
[09:33] <gnomefreak> dpkg has nothing to do with apt-get
[09:33] <morgoth666> why
[09:33] <HymnToLife> damn
[09:34] <dereks> nansub0111: are you sure there is an update?
[09:34] <HymnToLife> bielstien or wharver the hell his nick was changed his nick
[09:34] <grey> if installation is interrupted dpkg will finish configuring packages
[09:34] <gnomefreak> morgoth666: please stop saying hi its spamming and annoying
[09:34] <morgoth666> why
[09:34] <biovore> jramsey: comcast don't support anything
[09:34] <gnomefreak> !ops
[09:34] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[09:34] <buckwild> umm, I'm having trouble mounting a windows share with no password automatically
[09:34] <buckwild> does anyone know how to get that happening?
[09:34] <jramsey> grey, Error while Fetching Mail.
[09:34] <jramsey> Unable to connect to POP server mail.comcast.net: No support for requested authentication mechanism.
[09:34] <morgoth666> why
[09:34] <Amaranth> morgoth666: Do you say anything else?
[09:34] <holysmoke> says mkdit command not found
[09:34] <jramsey> grey, i selected Never
[09:34] <gnomefreak> ty ama
[09:34] <gnomefreak> ty
[09:35] <HymnToLife> holysmoke> mkdir, sorry mymistake
[09:35] <Spec> ...
[09:35] <biovore> jramsey: I had thunderbird doing..  I think all it is a pop, plain text
[09:35] <grey> jramsey, ok, i thought the problem was with outgoing mail.  we need to reconfigure your incoming mail
[09:35] <x405> Maaan...
[09:35] <morgoth666> why
[09:35] <holysmoke> thanks
[09:36] <jramsey> ok so i have the authentication type as Login; is that correct?
[09:36] <LetsSurf> x405: gnomefreak: still the same error on multiserve, can I install vlc using a different method ?
[09:36] <gymsmoke> nice! i report a bug at launchpad, and get "an error occurred"
[09:36] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: multiverse?
[09:36] <plipo> #ubuntu-nl
[09:36] <jramsey> gymsmoke, hehehe bug in the bug reporter
[09:36] <gnomefreak> gymsmoke: what is the error?
[09:36] <grey> jramsey, what's the security setting for POP (incoming mail)?
[09:36] <buckwild> can anyone think of why doing a manual mount when you get into linux would work given the same parameters
[09:36] <gymsmoke> gnomefreak: "an error occurred"
[09:37] <gnomefreak> gymsmoke: they have been working thier buts off on launchpad
[09:37] <buckwild> but for some reason doesn't work automatically in /etc/fstab
[09:37] <zF> Can someone give me the syntax to run a jar file?
[09:37] <jramsey> grey, Always ... i tried whenever possible and never ... maybe i've two settings wrong and am chasing my tail
[09:37] <gnomefreak> gymsmoke: iirc there is a bug on that lol
[09:37] <gnomefreak> zF: jar file.jar
[09:37] <holysmoke> now how do I get my regular user to have permissions to mount that drive?
[09:37] <gymsmoke> gnomefreak: so you can't report bugs because the bug reporter has a bug... hehe
[09:37] <zF> veritas@angrypacket:~/.Azureus$ jar Azureus2.jar
[09:37] <zF> jar: invalid option -- A
[09:37] <zF> Try `jar --help' for more information.
[09:37] <sharpy> !mplayer
[09:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:38] <gnomefreak> gymsmoke: hold on let me see if i can find something
[09:38] <senjin> are there any good documentation on instaling nvidia forcewere for ubuntu?
[09:38] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: sorry yeah, did spell it right in my sources.list, I just double checked
[09:38] <nmoore> i have changed from using a swap partition to a swap file, does anyone know how I can get software suspend to pick up the data in this swap when i turn back on?
[09:39] <Seveas> zF, java -jar bla.jar
[09:39] <zF> Seveas, thanks, just found it in google as well.
[09:39] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[09:40] <zF> Seveas, I got this error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/log4j/Layout
[09:40] <senjin> found it
[09:40] <Seveas> zF, you may need to install the log4j package
[09:40] <Seveas> !info log4j
[09:40] <zF> Seveas, I don't see it.
[09:41] <buckwild> I dont know why I can do a mount command with the same parameters once I'm in linux, but the mounts can't mount automatically
[09:41] <buckwild> that makes zero sense
[09:41] <Seveas> zF, it's not there - hang on
[09:41] <zF> and I have universe/multiverse.
[09:41] <buckwild> anyone have any clue about this?
[09:41] <zF> Seveas, hanging :)
[09:41] <Seveas> liblog4j1.2-java - Logging library for java
[09:41] <Seveas> that one
[09:41] <random_guy> can i ask a ppc question here?
[09:41] <raptros-v76> a what>
[09:41] <raptros-v76> ?
[09:41] <random_guy> ubuntu on a mac
[09:41] <grey> jramsey, so your "recieving email" tab has "POP" selected, with server "mail.comcast.net" and whatever your username is, with "use secure connection" set to never?
[09:42] <Seveas> random_guy, sure
[09:42] <gnomefreak> maybe it was mailing list i read that on :(
[09:42] <zF> Seveas, already the newest version :(
[09:42] <raptros-v76> random_guy: whats the question?
[09:42] <random_guy> cool, so i got a g3 ibook and i want to use the vga output plug for an external monitor
[09:42] <Determinist> Seveas, may i pm please?
[09:42] <zF> I didn't change a single thing on this machine, I dunno why this suddenly wouldn't work anymore
[09:42] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/689123
[09:42] <Seveas> Determinist, sure, no need to ask 
[09:43] <Determinist> Seveas, yeah well, might as well be polite :)
[09:43] <Seveas> Determinist, you'd be the first ;)
[09:43] <gnomefreak> gymsmoke: not real sure i think i read it on mailing lists
[09:43] <random_guy> the external monitor is not picked up by hardware detection
[09:43] <ubuntu> hi
[09:43] <raptros-v76> random_guy: guess what? i use an acer (originally a windows running thing) and i have exactly the same problem
[09:43] <WK|Dutchy> tbh Seveas most tech channels have a 'the channel works fine' policy, so thats why he asked :)
[09:43] <zF> Hrmmm. Seveas, I just ran ./restartScript
[09:43] <random_guy> and i dont know how to write an xorg.conf monitor entry well
[09:44] <gymsmoke> gnomefreak: strange... i just re-installed vi (i'm on a server, so i don't have any gewey's)... and now it's working...
[09:44] <zF> and Azureus launched. lol.
[09:44] <raptros-v76> random_guy: i have no idea what drivers oen would need
[09:44] <random_guy> ok thanks anyway
[09:44] <raptros-v76> random_guy: maybe gnomefreak knows
[09:44] <sharpy> my version of firefox in ubuntu is 1.0.8 ... how can I upgrade it to 1.5.x?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: put a # infront of the deb cdrom repo and than take the # away from the other repos except the sarge ones (debian repos are bad in ubuntu)
[09:44] <gymsmoke> gnomefreak: i know that vi uses sed syntax, so who knows... maybe a lib was borked along the way the first time
[09:44] <gnomefreak> raptros-v76: what do i know?
[09:44] <polpak> !tell sharpy about ff1.5
[09:45] <random_guy> how to use external monitor on a g3 ibook
[09:45] <gnomefreak> gymsmoke: your on breezy right?
[09:45] <gymsmoke> gnomefreak: (i'm not big on giving developers stupid things to track down)
[09:45] <gymsmoke> gnomefreak: yeah
[09:45] <raptros-v76> gnomefreak: how to get a vga port to work
[09:45] <gnomefreak> gymsmoke: if it doesnt work it needs to be fixed
[09:45] <gnomefreak> raptros-v76: not a clue sorry
[09:45] <random_guy> oh ya by the way the command line does show up
[09:45] <polpak> raptros-v76: what video driver are you using?
[09:45] <random_guy> but x wont start
[09:46] <random_guy> so that would mean it just needs some xorg.conf settings right?
[09:46] <polpak> random_guy: yes
[09:46] <raptros-v76> it also needs drivers
[09:46] <raptros-v76> ?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> there is a vga driver in xorg i thought
[09:46] <jramsey> grey, got it!!  found it here => http://support.easystreet.com/software/evolution/evolution.html
[09:46] <polpak> gnomefreak: there is
[09:46] <raptros-v76> is there?
[09:46] <gymsmoke> gnomefreak: agreed.  but forcing the reinstall worked... so i can't really say that it's repeatable... either a lib got borked, or a dep that wasn't met the first time (which isn't uncommon in ubuntu)
[09:46] <raptros-v76> polpak: is there a way to set it to autodetect?
[09:46] <ubuntu> having a small problem booting into ubuntu desktop, [4294672.005000]  pnp: PnPACPI:METHOD_NAME_CRS failure for pnp0c01  taarget filesystem does not have  /sbin/int
[09:47] <gnomefreak> gymsmoke: forcing is not really something i ever do :(
[09:47] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: sorry but still getting the same error
[09:47] <grey> jramsey, great hope it works
[09:47] <Joetheodd> hey how can I take a few minutes out of a MPG file and put it into a new one?
[09:47] <jramsey> grey, i just sent/rcvd email ... ty!
[09:47] <polpak> random_guy: is X starting at all? or dos it just crash?
[09:47] <random_guy> it crashes
[09:47] <random_guy> it tries to start and cant
[09:47] <Xenguy> Joetheodd: audacity  ?
[09:47] <gymsmoke> gnomefreak: i wasn't sure where vi is to un-install it first... my fear was that it's part of the base (not something i can uninstall remotely)
[09:47] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: did you sudo apt-get update
[09:47] <x405> random: What chipset did you specify?
[09:47] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: yes :)
[09:48] <random_guy> i get a blue screen that says it cant start
[09:48] <Xenguy> Joetheodd: that might be just audio, hrm
[09:48] <gnomefreak> gymsmoke: its not a lib it should beable to be uninstalled
[09:48] <raptros-v76> polpak: is there a way to get xorg to autodetect on the vga port?
[09:48] <random_guy> hmmm i didnt specify one
[09:48] <raptros-v76> me?
[09:48] <Xenguy> Joetheodd: you need video editor (apt-cache search video |grep editor)  ?
[09:48] <polpak> raptros-v76: generally you have to configure xserver to display on the other port
[09:48] <ubuntu> DBO: Any ideas please
[09:49] <random_guy> raptros you dont even get a command line?
[09:49] <Joetheodd> xenguy ok
[09:49] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: looks like your missing a very inporant repo like the deb main repo
[09:49] <gnomefreak> important even
[09:49] <livingdaylight> hi, I have a gz archive on cd and i don't know how to extract or unzip it
[09:49] <random_guy> could i possibly copy the monitor section generated by my desktop on the same monitor and copy it to the ibook's xorg.conf?
[09:49] <livingdaylight> it is in /media/cdrom1
[09:50] <raptros-v76> random_guy: no, ive got everything working, im just asking about someting
[09:50] <polpak> livingdaylight: tar -xzvf /media/cdrom1/file
[09:50] <livingdaylight> polpak, i'll try that
[09:50] <polpak> livingdaylight: unless it's not a tarfile, in which case you can gunzip it
[09:50] <raptros-v76> random_guy: it depends
[09:50] <raptros-v76> random_guy: what is the setup you have?
[09:50] <ubuntu> having a small problem booting into ubuntu desktop, [4294672.005000]  pnp: PnPACPI:METHOD_NAME_CRS failure for pnp0c01  taarget filesystem does not have  /sbin/int
[09:51] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: add this to your list deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[09:51] <smok3_> q: a step-by-step guide on how to install kubuntu on my external usb drive (386 version that is)?
[09:51] <jramsey> grey is there an evolution setting to have it start automatically when ubuntu boots and i log in?
[09:51] <random_guy> well i got the ibook and the pc desktop, the pc uses linux and can use the monitor but the ibook cant
[09:51] <livingdaylight> polpak: MIME type: application/x-gzip
[09:51] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: feel free to add your country code but not really needed
[09:51] <raptros-v76> but the ibook works on its own moniter?
[09:51] <grey> jramsey you can set it as a session in GNOME
[09:51] <random_guy> so both systems on same monitor
[09:52] <livingdaylight> polpak: type it says is gzip archive?
[09:52] <random_guy> well yes it works on its own monitor but backlight is breaking
[09:52] <polpak> livingdaylight: did you use tar?
[09:52] <jramsey> grey, u mean when i log out check the save session with evolution running and it'll start henceforth?
[09:52] <raptros-v76> random_guy: ibooks are laptops, right? does it work on its own moniter?
[09:53] <raptros-v76> oh, just realized u answered my question
[09:53] <random_guy> ya it works with its own monitor
[09:53] <grey> jramsey you could probably do it that way
[09:53] <ubuntu> i cannot reinstall as to much info will be lost
[09:53] <raptros-v76> ok, so you need it to display on the other moniter
[09:53] <random_guy> but i would rather get rid of tht entry and only use external
[09:53] <raptros-v76> and the ibook runs ubuntu?
[09:53] <grey> jramsey or run gnome-session-properties, go to the startup programs and add the progam "evolution --component=mail" minus the quotes, of course
[09:53] <random_guy> yes it does
[09:53] <asdasdasd> jest kto z polski??
[09:54] <livingdaylight> polpak: yea, used tar but its not worked, command line is going crazy
[09:54] <random_guy> i have it in live mode, it doesnt detect monitor
[09:54] <ubuntu> raptros-v76: ibook?
[09:54] <polpak> livingdaylight: did it give an error?
[09:54] <smok3_> q: a step-by-step guide on how to install kubuntu on my external usb drive (386 version that is)?
[09:54] <asdasdasd> kto z POLSKI??
[09:54] <HymnToLife> !pl
[09:54] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:54] <gnomefreak> !pl
[09:55] <random_guy> yes it says something like x failed to start, want to see log file yes no
[09:55] <HymnToLife> u got pwn3d :p
[09:55] <gnomefreak> ;)
[09:55] <linuxgeekery> :)
[09:55] <jramsey> grey, in Sessions, add evolution to the Startup Programs list?
[09:55] <raptros-v76> random_guy: put it in pastebin
[09:55] <grey> jramsey yep
[09:55] <raptros-v76> (look at the topic)
[09:55] <livingdaylight> polpak: /bin/tar: /bin/tar: cannot execute binary file
[09:55] <random_guy> well i am on the desktop now becasue i cant use irc from the command line
[09:56] <gnomefreak> random_guy: irssi
[09:56] <gnomefreak> ;)
[09:56] <polpak> livingdaylight: eh... sounds like something is wrong.. or you didn't type the command right
[09:56] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: :( I'm having no luck with this
[09:56] <random_guy> k wait a sec.
[09:56] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: did you add the repo i gave you
[09:56] <random_guy> i have both computers
[09:56] <jramsey> grey so Evolution --component=mail is added to Startup Programs and i left the order column as the default of 50 ... correct?
[09:56] <raptros-v76> random_guy: paste the output from x onto pastebin
[09:56] <livingdaylight> polpak: i did sudo tar -xzvf /media/cdrom1/conradaa
[09:56] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: yeah, and did an update, then tried the install but I still get the same error
[09:57] <livingdaylight> or should i just write 'file'?
[09:57] <raptros-v76> random_guy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:57] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: hold on delete everything in your /etc/apt/sources.list and i will give you a new list to place there
[09:57] <grey> jramsey make that a lowercase E in "Evolution" and you should be good
[09:57] <ubuntu> in live  cd at moment having a small problem booting into ubuntu desktop, [4294672.005000]  pnp: PnPACPI:METHOD_NAME_CRS failure for pnp0c01  taarget filesystem does not have  /sbin/int
[09:57] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: ok
[09:57] <asdasdasd> polska polska
[09:57] <jramsey> grey, ok i will drop off and relog in to try this ... ty
[09:57] <Anticept> im in need of guidance with compiling my own ubuntu kernel so i can install the ATI proprietary drivers, that way the 3d acceleration will work in cedega
[09:57] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: im hoping that the debian repos are not the cause of this
[09:57] <grey> :)
[09:57] <polpak> livingdaylight: shouldn't it be tar -xzvf /media/cdrom1/conradaa.tar.gz ?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> asdasdasd: #ubuntu-pl
[09:57] <polpak> livingdaylight: and you don't need sudo to untar a file
[09:58] <ll> Hi
[09:58] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: here is your new sources.list file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[09:58] <ll> I'm having some trouble with my network
[09:58] <raptros-v76> ok
[09:58] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: please paste from the white part near bottom not the numbered lines
[09:59] <livingdaylight> polpak, that aint worked either
[09:59] <ubuntu> is somegoing to help please
[09:59] <jramsey> grey, yep worked fine thanks
[09:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !anyone
[09:59] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[09:59] <grey> jramsey np
[09:59] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: what ?
[09:59] <livingdaylight> it doesn't say that it is a tar.gz file
[09:59] <polpak> livingdaylight: pastebin the output of ls -l /media/cdrom1/
[09:59] <ll> I have 2 computers and I want to share my internet connection
[09:59] <ll> but
[09:59] <livingdaylight> please tell me about pastebin
[09:59] <ll> after configuring the server
[09:59] <raptros-v76> ll: you need a router
[10:00] <livingdaylight> ubotu tell me about pastebin
[10:00] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[10:00] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:00] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: ok, thanks am trying that now
[10:00] <ubuntu> raptros-v76: in live  cd at moment having a small problem booting into ubuntu desktop, [4294672.005000]  pnp: PnPACPI:METHOD_NAME_CRS failure for pnp0c01  taarget filesystem does not have  /sbin/int
[10:00] <jramsey> livingdaylight, www.pastebin.ca
[10:00] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: :D looks like it's working
[10:01] <ll> in the windows machine I can ping i can even connect to the web site the it starts to "download" the web page and it stop
[10:01] <livingdaylight> j ramsey, thank you
[10:01] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: when you hit that try Ctrl+C ing out of it
[10:01] <jramsey> livingdaylight, np
[10:01] <unforcer> Can I use sd0,0 in grub.conf?
[10:01] <jorge_> HI
[10:01] <x405> ll what version windows do you have?
[10:01] <unforcer> or is it hd0,0 allways?
[10:01] <ll> XP sp2
[10:01] <x405> I know xp has a feature called 'internet connection' sharing.
[10:01] <x405> Ah, good.
[10:01] <x405> What form of internet connection is it?
[10:02] <ll> the server is the Linux Ubuntu machine
[10:02] <Anticept> where do I get the breezy ubuntu kernel source?
[10:02] <gnomefreak> unforcer: its whatever your hd is labeled as
[10:02] <livingdaylight> i'm used to pastebin looking differently
[10:02] <ll> it is a DSL conection
[10:02] <ll> the modem is a usb modem
[10:02] <gnomefreak> Anticept: synaptic
[10:02] <x405> ll ah...
[10:02] <livingdaylight> i can't seem to paste anythinginto it?
[10:02] <unforcer> gnomefreak: ok.. so I have /dev/sda
[10:02] <gnomefreak> unforcer: i would leave it alone if its booting
[10:02] <tombs> hi all
[10:02] <Anticept> ah, but synaptic isnt finding it
[10:02] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: hero of the day, thanks gnomefreak that fixed it
[10:02] <unforcer> gnomefreak: haha, no beacause I am setting up gentoo  :)
[10:02] <x405> ll: Do both cards have ethernet cards?
[10:02] <Anticept> i did rape my sources a bit ago on accident, but i believe i put it all back
[10:03] <gnomefreak> !kernelsource
[10:03] <ubotu> it has been said that kernelsource is apt-get install linux-source-<your kernel version>
[10:03] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: was
[10:03] <LetsSurf> gnomefreak: what was it ?
[10:03] <grey> unforcer grub uses weird devices names, can you set your bios to boot from usb first?
[10:03] <ubuntu> reptros-v76 what happens after that is i think another shell prompt appears any way i will try that and find out the nameof the shell
[10:03] <gnomefreak> LetsSurf: you didnt have a full sources.list
[10:03] <gnomefreak> you were missing major repos
[10:03] <unforcer> grey: whaat? :D
[10:03] <ll> both computers are already conected and i can share files
[10:03] <gnomefreak> !kernel-source
[10:03] <biberao> hey
[10:03] <gnomefreak> !+kernel-source
[10:03] <biberao> wireless wpa-sk cant make it work help
[10:03] <ubotu> methinks kernel-source is if you need to install the kernel source for your running kernel, sudo apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r), more than likely though, all you need is to install the kernel headers for your running kernel. (if you need to compile a module) sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:04] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: so go back through the problem
[10:04] <grey> unforcer: you want to boot from a usb stick instead of hard disk, right?
[10:04] <majd> Hi, rhythmbox gives me a "Could not open resource for writing" error whenever i try to play a song...the song plays in all other players...and i just can't find a player as good as rhythmbox
[10:04] <grey> unforcer: or external drive, I guess
[10:04] <gnomefreak> unforcer: did you try asking in gentoo?
[10:04] <thedeadliving5> Hey Im a first time linux user and Im trying to get XMMS installed, can anybody help me out?
[10:04] <unforcer> I am setting up gentoon I am configuring grub.conf
[10:04] <x405> ll: Okay, I suggest you check out this. http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialIptablesNetworkGateway.html
[10:04] <HymnToLife> majd> amaroK
[10:04] <biberao> help pls
[10:04] <Anticept> ok got the headers
[10:04] <majd> HymnToLife, i didn't like it
[10:04] <raptros-v76> thedeadliving5: sudo apt-get install xmms
[10:04] <unforcer> gnomefreak: no I just need someone to tell me what is it using :D
[10:04] <apokryphos> HymnToLife: huh?
[10:04] <Luke> when I go to Windows Network in nautilus, it has an error popup: ""smb:///" is not a valid location." Anyone know how to fix this?
[10:05] <unforcer> dont event try it event
[10:05] <thedeadliving5> ok
[10:05] <unforcer> Luke: dapper?
[10:05] <biberao> pls!!!!!
[10:05] <Anticept> once i get a bit better at this, ill try my hand at my own module. Linux is an adventure all its own, i must say :D
[10:05] <Anticept> my own kernel*
[10:05] <HymnToLife> apokryphos> ?
[10:05] <thedeadliving5> ive tried that but I keep getting an error
[10:05] <unforcer> Luke: if you are running dapper install gnomevfs-extra
[10:05] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell biberao about wireless
[10:05] <raptros-v76> Anticept: it will be a long perilous journy
[10:06] <biberao> gnomefreak
[10:06] <HymnToLife> thedeadliving5> what error ?
[10:06] <biberao> the wireless card works
[10:06] <biberao> just cant configure on networking the WPA key
[10:06] <HymnToLife> something about the package not being found ?
[10:06] <MenZa> How do I make Metacity my default WM?
[10:06] <biberao> understand gnomefreak?
[10:06] <thedeadliving5> "couldnt stat source package list://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted packages
[10:07] <ll> x405: a friend told me to use this: iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN -m \
[10:07] <raptros-v76> thedeadliving5: sudo apt-get update
[10:07] <ll> and tcpmss --mss 1400:1536 -j TCPMSS --clamp-mss-to-pmtu
[10:07] <thedeadliving5> sudo apt-get update
[10:07] <ll> to fix packet size
[10:07] <thedeadliving5> like that
[10:07] <Kr0ntab> biberao, wpasupplicant is the package you need
[10:07] <raptros-v76> yeah
[10:07] <ll> but both commands returnet an error
[10:07] <ubuntu> raptros-v76 computer starts ethernet isfound got into boot menu soon as i hit themenu get that message i posted  BUT not the /sbin/init part the ubuntu screen comes starts booting modules then i get the black screen that tells me target file syatem does not have  /sbin/int
[10:07] <biberao> Kr0ntab i have it
[10:07] <biberao> but it says
[10:07] <biberao> remove keys
[10:08] <ll> this are the errors: ptables v1.3.1: Couldn't load match ` ':/lib/iptables/libipt_ .so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:08] <gnomefreak> biberao: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[10:08] <ll> and root@ll-01:~# tcpmss --mss 1400:1536 -j TCPMSS --clamp-mss-to-pmtu
[10:08] <ll> bash: tcpmss: command not found
[10:08] <livingdaylight> polko: don't know how to open it
[10:08] <biberao> i've started it but it says to remove the keys
[10:08] <biberao> :\
[10:08] <bth_> what tool do I use to install a RPM?
[10:08] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: you mean like /sbin/init?
[10:08] <raptros-v76> not int, right?
[10:08] <HymnToLife> !alien
[10:08] <ubotu> from memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[10:08] <gnomefreak> bth_: i wouldnt i would look for a deb
[10:09] <bth_> erg.
[10:09] <HymnToLife> but yeah, look for a DEB first
[10:09] <livingdaylight> polpak: i tried to extract it from gui but it says that it is not supported
[10:09] <livingdaylight> archive type not supported?
[10:09] <biberao> i think i know understand the problem
[10:09] <biberao> :X
[10:09] <biberao> well
[10:09] <biberao> gtg
[10:09] <biberao> play snooker
[10:09] <bth_> well, I know there is no deb.
[10:10] <bth_> my choice is RPM or tar.gz
[10:10] <MenZa> bth_: I've never had any problems with Alien. Simply do "sudo alien filename.deb" followed by "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[10:10] <x405> Go for the tar.
[10:10] <MenZa> Alien <3
[10:10] <bth_> okay tar it is
[10:10] <gnomefreak> bth_: what app is it?
[10:10] <bth_> it's Wildfire, an XMPP server
[10:11] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:11] <bth_> http://www.jivesoftware.org/downloads.jsp
[10:11] <thedeadliving5> sweet thanks its downloading now
[10:11] <sharpy> !mplayer
[10:11] <ubotu> hmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:11] <thedeadliving5> is there anything else I need to do to use it?
[10:11] <ubuntu> raptros-v76 i thought it was /sbin/int   but if this seems incorrect then yes init since there may be no such file as int?
[10:12] <majd> Hi, rhythmbox gives me a "Could not open resource for writing" error whenever i try to play a song...the song plays in all other players...and i just can't find a player as good as rhythmbox
[10:12] <raptros-v76> thedeadliving5: good. btw http://www.xmms.org/ has cool stuff for xmms.  there are also plugins for it.  xmms is pretty cool
[10:12] <thedeadliving5> thanks
[10:12] <MenZa> majd: I highly recommend "Listen" -- it's Rhytmbox-like. Otherwise, permissions?
[10:12] <Luke> unforcer: thanks
[10:13] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: yeah, i dont have a file called int in /sbin
[10:13] <MenZa> http://listengnome.free.fr, majd.
[10:13] <majd> i just want an itunes-like interface and i want it to be fast
[10:13] <majd> anything else is extra
[10:13] <MenZa> majd: it's very iTunes like.
[10:13] <imc_> Looking for info about making the suspend key (Fn+F5 on this Compaq v4020us) work - anyone have a pointer?
[10:13] <imc_> under dapper
[10:13] <MenZa> Artist and album-browser
[10:13] <unforcer> Luke: np
[10:13] <MenZa> http://www.menza.org/upload/listen.png majd
[10:13] <ubuntu> raptros-v76 then it must be /sbin/init
[10:13] <raptros-v76> majd: itunes and fast are mutually exclusive
[10:14] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: yeah. that would be bad.
[10:14] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: umm.
[10:14] <majd> MenZa, that looks perfect
[10:14] <majd> haven't even heard of it before
[10:14] <majd> thanks
[10:14] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: lets see, what architecture is your computer?
[10:14] <MenZa_> majd: http://www.menza.org/random/listen.png
[10:14] <MenZa_> There it is.
[10:14] <MenZa_> (My connection died :\)
[10:15] <mxpxpod> is there anyone using network-manager with bcm43xx?
[10:15] <majd> MenZa, i'm not kidding lol, the interface is exactly what i was looking for
[10:15] <MenZa> Goody.
[10:15] <MenZa> http://listengnome.free.fr
[10:15] <thedeadliving5> ok one last thing im having trouble with
[10:15] <MenZa> It's optimised for Dapper (which I'm using), but there is a Breezy repos available.
[10:16] <cT|Binary> Will someone please walk me through installing ATI Drivers? thanks
[10:16] <thedeadliving5> i cant get my resolution past 1024X768?
[10:16] <gnomefreak> !ati
[10:16] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:16] <MenZa> !resolutions
[10:16] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MenZa
[10:16] <ubuntu> raptros-v76: i had sarge on hda2 but ubuntu server on then booted back into hda1 and this problem occured  arch is i386
[10:16] <MenZa> !resolutionhowto
[10:16] <ubotu> MenZa: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:16] <MenZa> !fixresolutionhowto
[10:16] <ubotu> MenZa: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:16] <MenZa> !fixresolution
[10:16] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MenZa
[10:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell MenZa about fixres
[10:16] <MenZa> Sorry about that -- what's the ubotu lead?
[10:16] <MenZa> Fixres, right!
[10:16] <MenZa> !tell thedeadliving5 about fixres
[10:17] <MenZa> :P
[10:17] <Luke> unforcer: aah it worked! thank you so much! i've been looking for that for so long
[10:17] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: i have no clue.
[10:17] <thedeadliving5> fixres?
[10:17] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: had it worked before?
[10:17] <Luke> unforcer: how did you find out about that  -extra package?i searched through everything that had "samba" in it
[10:17] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: yes, check your query from ubotu.
[10:17] <gnomefreak> thedeadliving5: read your pm
[10:17] <MenZa> There's a link to a wiki guide on it.
[10:18] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: if you wish, I can guide you through it though.
[10:18] <sharpy> when i try to open an application it tells me: cannot load font Sans. How do i add it?
[10:18] <bth_> where can i get a deb for Sun's Java Runtime?
[10:18] <thedeadliving5> thanks
[10:18] <MenZa> The guide should be easy to understand though.
[10:18] <thedeadliving5> please
[10:18] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: alright.
[10:18] <thedeadliving5> i appreciate it
[10:18] <Luke> sharpy: search restricted formats on the wiki... there is a guide
[10:18] <MenZa> Open a terminal and type in "sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (you can use gedit if you wish)
[10:18] <MenZa> Type in your password.
[10:18] <sharpy> Luke, wiki? i am sorry could u point me to the website?
[10:19] <ubuntu> raptros-v76 all the time yes just delted sarge on hda2 but ubuntu 5.10 server on hda2 now have grub from hda2 installed and now this problem
[10:19] <bth_> any clues on how i can get the java 1.5
[10:19] <MenZa> Now go down and find "Section "Screen"
[10:19] <MenZa> bth_: there's a package... jre-something
[10:19] <Luke> sharpy: www.ubuntu.com
[10:19] <MenZa> sudo apt-cache search jre
[10:19] <MenZa> try that
[10:19] <thedeadliving5> ive been in this folder before
[10:19] <sharpy> Luke, i meant relative to installing a Sans font.
[10:19] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: yeah, a lot is done there.
[10:20] <bth_> hrmmm i don't have any packages with that NAME listed...
[10:20] <sharpy> Luke, its ok.. i'll peruse there. Hopefully it will be self-evident.
[10:20] <MenZa> Now scroll down to that 'Section "Screen"'
[10:20] <bth_> i have universe but not multiverse maybe that's the problem
[10:20] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: i did that once, got rid of a partition.  that is a very bad idea.  youll have to find your install disk and reinstall ubuntu. first copy out all your important files
[10:20] <majd> MenZa, i have to add a repo to get listen?
[10:20] <MenZa> !tell bth_ about multiverse
[10:20] <Luke> sharpy: you go to the wiki on www.ubuntu.com and search "restricted formats" and there will be a page called that. then on that page you search "sun java"
[10:20] <ubuntu> no way theres to much
[10:20] <MenZa> majd: I think you can do it by just downloading the latest .deb
[10:20] <MenZa> But you ought to add the repo aswell, for updates.
[10:21] <sharpy> Luke, oh..so Sans font is part of sun java?
[10:21] <Luke> sharpy: its not like i can tell you how to make a deb package for sun java on irc"
[10:21] <thedeadliving5> it says default is set at 1280X 800
[10:21] <Luke> sharpy: sans font?
[10:21] <sharpy> Luke, yes.. I am looking for Sans font.
[10:21] <Luke> sharpy: hahaha ooh sorry - i highlighted the wrong person!
[10:21] <Luke> hahahaha
[10:21] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: pastebin your xorg.conf :)
[10:21] <Luke> i'm so sorry
[10:21] <sharpy> Luke, np
[10:21] <thedeadliving5> how do i do that?
[10:21] <Luke> sharpy: i'm like... what the hell... this guy has no idea what i'm talking about
[10:21] <Luke> hahahaha
[10:21] <sharpy> Luke, :-)
[10:21] <Android_D> how can I check my version of Breezy?
[10:22] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: copy important files to the empty partition using your livecd, then reinstall your ubuntu
[10:22] <ubuntu> raptros-v76 its just not possible much to much info
[10:22] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: right, use gedit instead. Press CTRL+Z to close nano. Now do "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[10:22] <MenZa> You have it open in a more user-friendly client now.
[10:22] <Luke> sharpy: i can help with your problem too though
[10:22] <sharpy> Luke, i just want to install a Sans font that an application is requesting. That's all. :-)
[10:22] <sharpy> Luke, okies.
[10:22] <Luke> sharpy: open your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:22] <bosco> lol
[10:22] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: how much of actually important stuff could you have?
[10:22] <sharpy> Luke, ok one sec.. while i load a terminal
[10:22] <Android_D> actually
[10:22] <Luke> sharpy: look at the paths in there and it will tell you where fonts are
[10:23] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: now go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:23] <MenZa> And paste the contents there -- then give me the link.
[10:23] <ubuntu> raptros-v76 230mb
[10:23] <sharpy> Luke, i c tons of fontpaths for misc,cyrilic, 100dpi ..etc...
[10:23] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: how much space do you have on the empty partition
[10:23] <Luke> yea but they all have a common path though right?
[10:23] <Luke> sharpy: like /usr/share/X11/fonts?
[10:23] <Android_D> I type " apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` " and I get "Couldn't find package linuc-headers-'uname -r' .  Why is this happening?
[10:24] <sharpy> Luke, yup. Common path ^^
[10:24] <thedeadliving5> type that all in one line?
[10:24] <Ohzie> Hey, can anybody tell me of a linux program that can open a daa file?
[10:24] <Markus__> hi everyone!
[10:24] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: Press CTRL+Z -- that closes the client.
[10:24] <MenZa> Then do [without the quotes] : "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[10:25] <ubuntu> raptros-76 more than enough its not that its setting up postfix the certs the hours of work I think and i hate to say this but bill G is calling me back to!!!!!
[10:25] <Markus__> i have just installed kubuntu and if i try to start the monitor freezes....do anyone of you know this problem?
[10:25] <MenZa> COPY the contents from there and paste it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:25] <thedeadliving5> command not found?
[10:25] <sharpy> Luke, do I blindly search for a Sans font on the internet and install it in /usr/shar/X11/fonts ?
[10:25] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: what are you typing in?
[10:25] <grey> android_d, make sure those are back-quotes (by tilde) around uname-r and the whole lot is unquoted
[10:25] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: ok depserate measures time
[10:25] <Luke> sharpy: you could do that
[10:25] <bosco> has anyone gotten flash working in ubuntu
[10:25] <Android_D> thanks, grey
[10:25] <Luke> sharpy: i use bitstream vera
[10:25] <MenZa> !tell bosco about flash
[10:25] <Luke> sharpy: which has a sans
[10:25] <thedeadliving5> gedit/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:25] <MenZa> no, no
[10:25] <sharpy> Luke, oh.. where can I get that?
[10:26] <Markus__> can anybody help me?
[10:26] <MenZa> Do "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[10:26] <MenZa> Without the quotes
[10:26] <Luke> sharpy: there is probably a ubuntu package
[10:26] <raptros-v76> copy your /sbin/init file from the live cd to the hard drive
[10:26] <Luke> sharpy: h/o i'm looking for better solutions. you should already ahve this font - that is the problem
[10:26] <thedeadliving5> ok
[10:26] <Luke> sharpy: what program is it that cant find sans?
[10:26] <sharpy> Luke, mplayer. it's for a specific skin I like.
[10:26] <bosco> MenZa, i did that already and i didnt not work
[10:26] <thedeadliving5> ok now what
[10:27] <bosco> MenZa, didnt work i have already been there to that site
[10:27] <Luke> sharpy: aaah that changes things. you'll have to go in the settings and just pick another font. they have some path hardcoded into mplayer so if you dont have that... it wont work
[10:27] <Android_D> alright
[10:27] <ubuntu> raptros-v76: yes itspretty bleak i will not reinstall again  its about six months of hard work
[10:27] <sharpy> Luke, oh ok. let me see if i can change a font there.
[10:27] <raptros-v76> ok, do what i said
[10:27] <bosco> does anyone have flash working in ubuntu the flashplayer plugin is installed but still cant view flash
[10:28] <Android_D> now I type " apt-get install gcc-3.4 " and the package cannot be found
[10:28] <Luke> sharpy: there is a whole font section in gmapler's preferences
[10:28] <raptros-v76> copy that binary file from the cd to the hard drive
[10:28] <MenZa> Sorry about that, metacity crashed.
[10:28] <Ohzie> bosco: Works fine for me.
[10:28] <Luke> sharpy: mine doesnt actually point to a font, it just points to "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
[10:28] <bosco> Ohzie, well so what do i do then
[10:28] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: right. Copy all of that and paste it on http://www.pastebin.com
[10:29] <sharpy> Luke, mplayer is asking for a font that ends with .desc
[10:29] <MenZa> bah, I'm on CLI so I have to settle for Lynx ;\
[10:29] <dooglus> I installed xubuntu-desktop, and my gdm login screen has gone all light blue and xubuntu-y.  how can I get it back to the proper ubuntu colours?
[10:29] <Ohzie> bosco: Well, I clicked on the INSTALL MISSING PLUGINS button
[10:29] <Ohzie> And uhh installed flash
[10:29] <Ohzie> And now it works.
[10:29] <MenZa> dooglus: Umm... try doing System -> Administration -> Login Screen
[10:29] <MenZa> (That's GNOME)
[10:29] <sharpy> Luke, it's ok ... ill ask in #mplayer.. more appropiate ya know? :-)
[10:29] <Luke> sharpy: where do you see it asking that?
[10:29] <ubuntu> raptros-v76: please use my nick which  sbin/init are we talking about
[10:29] <thedeadliving5> there isnt anything to paste
[10:29] <bosco> Ohzie, well that did not work for me it says something and i have to custom install it
[10:29] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: ...you must've typed it in wrong.
[10:29] <grimboy> Alright, I have a mouse problem, I have annoying side buttons that I accidently hit and want to turn off and a middle button that always does a paste whatever the application (in firefox it should do stuff with tabs)
[10:29] <Luke> sharpy: good call. i'm pretty sure its an mplayer specific problem
[10:29] <Ohzie> bosco: Well, I'm sorry. That sucks.
[10:29] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: right, let's do this another way
[10:29] <MenZa> do
[10:29] <sharpy> Luke, it's in preferences dialog. :-)
[10:30] <Luke> sharpy: expecially if all your other fonts work. firefox and all that probably use sans too
[10:30] <MenZa> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:30] <Luke> sharpy: mine is looking for .pfd files?
[10:30] <MenZa> And follow the steps
[10:30] <Luke> sharpy: and .ttf
[10:30] <MenZa> Until you get to the resolutions part. Simply toggle the ones you want, thedeadliving5.
[10:30] <bosco> Ohzie, will i use enlightment 17 and that should have nothing to do with it should it
[10:30] <thedeadliving5> ok
[10:30] <Ohzie> bosco: I don't think so.
[10:30] <MenZa> Tell me if you experience any problems
[10:31] <sharpy> Luke, when i type gmplayer, i open preferences and the first font it wants is Sans. If i peruse for other fonts in /usr/local/share/fonts mplayer wants it in .desc way
[10:31] <Luke> sharpy: that is highly strange. since mine isnt doing that i cant really help
[10:31] <Luke> sharpy: sorry
[10:31] <bosco> Ohzie, it sends me here and tells me there is no flash installed         http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[10:31] <Android_D> I type " apt-get install gcc-3.4 " and the package cannot be found, why is it that gcc-3.4 is not found. (I am following a guide for installing a webcam driver BTW)
[10:31] <Luke> sharpy: at least you know its just a mplayer problem though
[10:31] <sharpy> Luke, true :-)
[10:32] <Luke> sharpy: good luck
[10:32] <bosco> Ohzie, and then it downloads the flash as a .tar file
[10:32] <Firebird8> how do i change the permissions of my CD writer so i do not need to be root to write?
[10:32] <thedeadliving5> how do i go about toggling what i want
[10:32] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: I think it's space.
[10:32] <sharpy> Luke, thanks.. i'll let u know if I find a solution..jsut in case a newbie like me comes across the same prob.
[10:32] <thedeadliving5> they all say 1280X800
[10:33] <bth_> !tell khaladan about multiverse
[10:33] <MenZa> All of them?
[10:33] <Kasirc> Ola
[10:33] <Luke> sharpy: haha thanks
[10:33] <Ohzie> bosco: Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I have no idea how to help you. Sorry.
[10:33] <Ohzie> Try searching in Synaptic for 'flash'
[10:34] <Howitzer> I have a problem with my new 6600GT and the NVidia drivers..
[10:34] <bosco> Ohzie,  i did searchh in synaptic and i installed all of the flash plugins
[10:34] <bosco> Ohzie, thanks for trying to help me'
[10:34] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: ?
[10:34] <bth_> !easysource
[10:34] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:35] <thedeadliving5> all the resolutions are the same
[10:35] <MenZa> Hmmm...
[10:35] <Brainlessbob> is there a terminal based synaptic like software?
[10:35] <MenZa> Brainlessbob: yes
[10:35] <MenZa> apt-get
[10:35] <MenZa> :P
[10:35] <Madpilot> Brainlessbob, aptitude
[10:35] <Howitzer> when i use the official ones or the ones from the repo's(Breezy and Dapper), all fonts OUTSIDE of Gnome are really small...(ex: GDM's fonts are small, Fluxbox's, TTYs are fine)
[10:35] <ProN00b> lol, Brainlessbob, synaptic is only an interface to apt-get
[10:35] <Brainlessbob> well... how do i search with apt-get for packages?
[10:36] <Howitzer> apt-cache search
[10:36] <MenZa> apt-cache search <keyword>Z
[10:36] <MenZa> ah, damn
[10:36] <MenZa> Howitzer: you're too quick.
[10:36] <Brainlessbob> thanks :D
[10:36] <Howitzer> meh
[10:36] <bth_> gosh! does anyone know what repository I can find sun-j2sdk1.5 in??
[10:36] <Howitzer> it's a reflex
[10:36] <bth_> It doesn't seem to be in multiverse!
[10:36] <MenZa> Howitzer: I suppose :)
[10:36] <fapeg> hi
[10:36] <Howitzer> on Arch Linux, i always did 'apt-get install' instead of 'pacman -S' -_-
[10:36] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: hmm.. my best guess is to add them yourself then.
[10:37] <thedeadliving5> thats the res i want, but i cant select it
[10:37] <thedeadliving5> thats where I am lost
[10:37] <raptros-v76> bth_: its not in a repository. you have to install it from source
[10:37] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: right. Launch your xorg.conf in gedit, using the command "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[10:37] <Hexidigital> !tell bth_ about java
[10:37] <Howitzer> edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:37] <MenZa> No worries, thedeadliving5.
[10:37] <MenZa> Now scroll down to the section called "Screens"
[10:37] <Howitzer> go to the Monitor section and add the resolution you want to the corresponding color depth
[10:37] <MenZa> You'll see a number of resolutions there.
[10:37] <Howitzer> oh
[10:37] <Howitzer> Screens section, sorry
[10:37] <MenZa> Simply add the ones you want next to the others.
[10:38] <MenZa> Howitzer: heh
[10:38] <thedeadliving5> now it opened
[10:38] <MenZa> When you're done, save the file.
[10:38] <MenZa> And use CTRL+ALT+SHIFT to restart X.
[10:38] <thedeadliving5> where should i add the ones i want?
[10:38] <Howitzer> save by doing ':save /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:39] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: scroll down to the section calls "Screen"
[10:39] <stpere> MenZa, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[10:39] <thedeadliving5> ok
[10:39] <MenZa> You'll see a number of resolutions, e.g. "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
[10:39] <MenZa> stpere: I know, my mistake :)
[10:39] <kracker> hmm so i have been runing ubuntu 5.10 for quite a while and i just got an old netgeer pcmcia network card WG511 (802.11 G, V2, MADE IN TIWAN)
[10:39] <thedeadliving5> all there is 1280 X 800
[10:40] <kracker> and i'm trying to get it working
[10:40] <iNiku> hey.
[10:40] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: Okay. You see there are several rows of them, right?
[10:40] <thedeadliving5> yes
[10:40] <wang_> does anyone know what the SU password is? i just installed ubuntu
[10:40] <raptros-v76> there isnt one
[10:40] <MenZa> !rootsudo
[10:40] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:40] <kracker> but i'm not sure how i can "install" the hardware ...
[10:40] <jonguy> i deleted the hosts tab in network settings and trying to edit etc/hosts but i can not get into root
[10:40] <kracker> i plugged in the card before i started ubuntu but ... no lights turned on ..
[10:40] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: right. So it says something like "1280x1024" on all lines.
[10:41] <thedeadliving5> yes it does
[10:41] <Howitzer> kracker, you have to modprobe the drivers i think
[10:41] <Brainlessbob> How do I scroll up in terminal?
[10:41] <MenZa> Next to it, type "1280x800" [if that's the one you want]  -- on all of them.
[10:41] <JimJty> how can I search a zip file for a specific file
[10:41] <MenZa> So it says "1280x1024" "1280x800" -- on all lines.
[10:41] <MenZa> When you're done, save the file.
[10:41] <thedeadliving5> it only says 1280 X 800
[10:41] <MenZa> Add more
[10:42] <thedeadliving5> right in front of it
[10:42] <MenZa> Just type them in.
[10:42] <MenZa> ...hmm
[10:42] <MenZa> pastebin it, could you?
[10:42] <Howitzer> wait
[10:42] <Howitzer> i'll post you mine
[10:42] <MenZa> Howitzer: don't bother, I'll modify his :)
[10:42] <MenZa> I just hope lynx will do for that...
[10:42] <thedeadliving5> pastbin it?
[10:42] <jonguy> is there any way to edit files while not in root
[10:42] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: http://www.pastebin.com <- put it into the big field and type "send", then post the address in here.
[10:43] <livingdaylight> is there any way to have different backgrounds in each desktop?
[10:43] <MenZa> ...uh oh.
[10:43] <Howitzer> don't think so livingdaylight
[10:43] <livingdaylight> or to have backgrounds rotating?
[10:43] <MenZa> "Unable to connect to X server"
[10:43] <MenZa> :D
[10:43] <Howitzer> MenZa, i'll do it then :-)
[10:43] <kracker> Howitzer, i thought i tried ... using:  sudo modprobe prism54
[10:43] <livingdaylight> Howitzer, thx, shame though. It s no problem in KDE
[10:43] <TehBigOne> MenZa, I have the same problem and edited/saved the file but I still cannot select the resolution I added :<
[10:44] <MenZa> TehBigOne: you have to restart x
[10:44] <TehBigOne> ty
[10:44] <MenZa> by doing ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:44] <thedeadliving5> ok
[10:44] <ubuntu> raptros-v76: ;)
[10:44] <Android_D> whats a good app for recording from webcam straight to file for extended periods of time?
[10:44] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: did it work?
[10:44] <thedeadliving5> http://pastebin.com/689222
[10:45] <ubuntu> just a sec go back to pm
[10:45] <kracker> Still ... even after i ran the command (oh, and no errors or output when running the command fyi) i still did not get a light on :\
[10:45] <kracker> errum a light on the pcmcia network card  rather
[10:45] <Brainlessbob> My terminal writes more lines than my screen can show. Is there a way I can scroll up or make the terminal write slower?
[10:46] <kracker> i did configure the card using the network control panel but ...
[10:46] <sharpy> Luke, no luck.. everyone is asleep in #mplayer
[10:46] <MenZa> Howitzer: care to edit it for me and send it along? I'm on Lynx and it bugs me.
[10:46] <sharpy> Does anyone know how to install a Sans font in gmplayer?
[10:46] <ubuntu> raptros-v76: are we here or in pm section?
[10:46] <Howitzer> What resolutions?
[10:46] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: what?
[10:46] <sharpy> or a Sans font in general that gmplayer can use?
[10:46] <JimJty> how can I search a zip file for a specific file via the command line
[10:46] <sharpy> I get: Sans font not found.
[10:46] <jonguy> newbie with problems is there any way to edit files without being in root?
[10:47] <MenZa> jonguy: well, unless they're system files or the like, you can, by standard :)
[10:47] <Brainlessbob> jonguy: If you edit in terminal you can use sudo
[10:47] <jonguy> etc/hosts
[10:47] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: what resolutions do you want to add?
[10:47] <raptros-v76> ubuntu, ill be back in about 20 minutes.
[10:47] <sharpy> !mplayer sans font installation
[10:47] <ubotu> sharpy: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:47] <Howitzer> /etc/hosts will require root
[10:48] <jonguy> i can't use sudo becuase i deleted host in network connections
[10:48] <sharpy> ?
[10:48] <thedeadliving5> "1280 X800" and "1280 X 1084"
[10:48] <MenZa> Howitzer: you heard him :)
[10:48] <Howitzer> 1280x1084? Oo
[10:48] <MenZa> 1280x800 is there already
[10:48] <Howitzer> why not 1280x1024?
[10:48] <MenZa> Howitzer: just add that and some other generic ones :)
[10:48] <jonguy> and now i have to replace etc/hosts/ without sudo possible?
[10:48] <thedeadliving5> thats what i meant, lol
[10:48] <Howitzer> okay
[10:49] <jonguy> or change
[10:49] <cheesechoker> where do i put new .el files so that emacs can find them?
[10:50] <Howitzer> http://pastebin.com/689236
[10:50] <Howitzer> MenZa, you want it sent via mail?
[10:50] <Brainlessbob> My terminal writes 20+x lines but my screen only show the 20 last lines. How do I see the missing x lines?
[10:51] <kracker> this is what i have it configured as and the error when I try to turn it up ... http://pastebin.com/689233
[10:51] <jramsey> any idea why a windows shared folder on D:\Documents and Settings\folderDesired give me "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "folderDesired"?
[10:51] <Howitzer> Brainlessbob, use the scroll function :D
[10:51] <MenZa> Brainlessbob: ...page up?
[10:51] <Howitzer> jramsey, do you have r-access on it?
[10:51] <thedeadliving5> and i just replace the old one with that
[10:51] <Brainlessbob> I cant... uses ubuntu server
[10:51] <x_ghost> pipe it with more
[10:52] <jonguy> how do i get into root without sudo?
[10:52] <Howitzer> thedeadliving5, yes
[10:52] <Howitzer> jonguy, do 'su'
[10:52] <jramsey> Howitzer, i just changed in on the xp machine to allow network users to change my files and same thing
[10:52] <x405> jo: su or if you want to live a lie, use fakeroot
[10:52] <stevietool> how do you unpack a tar.bz2 file?
[10:52] <jramsey> i can get to Docs and Settings folder
[10:52] <thedeadliving5> thanks guys
[10:53] <jramsey> samba says the contents are unreadable
[10:53] <MenZa> thedeadliving5: no probs
[10:53] <MenZa> hf :)
[10:53] <MenZa> stevietool: open it with archive manager..?
[10:53] <Centaur5> After installing the nvidia drivers for my card shouldn't lspci list the type of video card instead of say that it's unknown?
[10:53] <Howitzer> jramsey, can't really help you much, don't know a lot about those things
[10:54] <jramsey> Howitzer, hold on it was set Read only on XP ... lemme try again
[10:54] <kracker> any suggestions for the error saying "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory"
[10:54] <Howitzer> jramsey, are you root when accessing the samba share?
[10:54] <Android_D> is there any simple way of installing gcc-3.4 when apt-get does not work?
[10:54] <jonguy> x405: does root have a set password
[10:54] <stevietool> Menza: I did the following in a terminal: tar -xjfv file.tar.bz2
[10:54] <kracker> for command: ifconfig -a eth1 up (eth1 is my netgear wireless card, Netgear WG511T Super G 108 Mbps)
[10:54] <x405> Usually...
[10:55] <jonguy> i tried my normal pass and it didnt work
[10:55] <TehBigOne> Is It possible to copy over files from my second hd?
[10:55] <stevietool> Menza: I got tar: file.tar.gz : not found in archive? blub?
[10:55] <jramsey> Howitzer, no ... using file browser ... how do i do sudo on the browser and do i really need to be root?
[10:55] <x405> When you installed, it should've asked for a password for root.
[10:55] <jonguy> i wonder if it has anything with the hosts file screwed up
[10:56] <Howitzer> jramsey, it might work if you're root..
[10:56] <bosco> how do i extract a tar.gz file
[10:56] <Howitzer> try 'sudo nautilus--no-desktop' in a terminal
[10:56] <bth_> bosco, tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[10:56] <x405> bosco: tar -zxvf file
[10:56] <Madpilot> x405, Ubuntu doesn't use an active root acct - there is no root pw by default...
[10:56] <x405> Ah...
[10:57] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell x405 about sudo
[10:57] <TehBigOne> Is It possible to copy over files from my second hd?
[10:57] <stevietool> how do I unpack a tar.bz2 file from terminal?
[10:57] <x405> I'm aware of sudo.
[10:57] <Madpilot> x405, the bot should have sent you a pm - check that URL out
[10:57] <jramsey> Howitzer, that worked to the point where it wants me to authenticate to access the folder
[10:57] <SAM_theman> hey
[10:57] <kracker> hmm, well what does this error messg mean? for the error from command "ifconfig eth1 up" saying "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory"
[10:57] <SAM_theman> i am having a problem
[10:57] <SAM_theman> i can't hear my games sounds
[10:57] <kracker> arn't we all :)
[10:57] <x405> Yes, thank you for sending me stuff I don't need. Deeply appreciated.
[10:57] <jramsey> Howitzer, is this local authentication?  the default username is root
[10:58] <jonguy> so x405 anyother way to modify files?
[10:58] <Howitzer> no
[10:58] <TehBigOne> Is It possible to copy over files from my second harddrive? please
[10:58] <SAM_theman> only the music on my computer and the themes but can't listen to movies on the web whats going on???
[10:58] <Howitzer> jramsey, it's the user and pass you've given on the XP box
[10:58] <jonguy> hmm
[10:58] <Madpilot> x405, if you're not aware of how Ubuntu handles admin privs, then that URL worth a read...
[10:58] <Howitzer> if you didn't supply one, just try pressing enter whitouth filling in anything
[10:58] <jonguy> tried that
[10:58] <Howitzer> hey again MenZa  :p
[10:59] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering how do i create my own respositories?
[10:59] <jonguy> and i tried the only pass i use for everything
[10:59] <x405> 'root doesn't have a password, use sudo for administrative stuff", I think I get the idea.
[10:59] <Howitzer> jadaz87, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto
[11:00] <Howitzer> modify if necessary for Ubuntu
[11:00] <jadaz87> thanks Howitzer
[11:01] <Howitzer> God it feels good to help people :x
[11:01] <MenZa> Howitzer: word :D
[11:01] <MenZa> Giving back some of the stuff you took, so to speak
[11:01] <Howitzer> i can finally give something back
[11:01] <Howitzer> wth
[11:01] <MenZa> :D
[11:01] <Howitzer> you read my mind :s
[11:01] <MenZa> What can I say? It's a gift :)
[11:01] <jonguy> i deleted the hosts tab so now i can not get into sudo to get into root to modify the etc/hosts/ to something other than nothing
[11:02] <MenZa> sudo apt-get install sudo
[11:02] <MenZa> ;D
[11:02] <jonguy> quite a problem
[11:02] <MenZa> Indeed
[11:02] <MenZa> Synaptic?
[11:02] <jadaz87> MenZa he has no sudo lol
[11:02] <MenZa> jadaz87: I know, I was kidding ;)
[11:02] <x405> Boot using a live-cd and fix it?
[11:02] <jadaz87> synaptic requires gksudo
[11:02] <Howitzer> use fakeroot
[11:03] <MenZa> yeah, use fakeroot
[11:03] <Madpilot> jonguy, reboot to the recover console, and reinstall sudo from there
[11:03] <jonguy> how do i use fake root
[11:03] <x405> Type fakeroot at a console.
[11:03] <jonguy> fakeroot: command not found
[11:03] <Howitzer> okay
[11:03] <Howitzer> First:
[11:03] <MenZa> su ?
[11:03] <Howitzer> do passwd root
[11:04] <Howitzer> enter a password
[11:04] <jonguy> su
[11:04] <MenZa> repeat it.
[11:04] <sharpy> anyone use gmplayer here?
[11:04] <jonguy> crap wrong pc
[11:04] <MenZa> jonguy: :D
[11:04] <Howitzer> then go su and do apt-get install sudo
[11:04] <Howitzer> *then go su and do apt-get -reinstall install sudo
[11:04] <MenZa> --reinstall !
[11:04] <Howitzer> i think
[11:04] <Howitzer> oh
[11:04] <Howitzer> yeah
[11:04] <MenZa> :D
[11:05] <MenZa> I actually made a request on adding "reinstall" as an apt option -- "sudo apt-get reinstall package"
[11:05] <MenZa> Shuttleworth thought it was a good idea
[11:05] <jonguy> i cannot gain acess by using su
[11:05] <jonguy> the passowrd is not working
[11:05] <Howitzer> or you could do it the noob way and whine about how you think Ubuntu sucks and shoot people in your school
[11:05] <Brainlessbob> Is there a way to check in terminal if i have internet access?
[11:05] <x405> Ping a server?
[11:05] <Brainlessbob> what server?
[11:06] <jonguy> i will check into alternatives
[11:06] <x405> Any?
[11:06] <MenZa> Brainlessbob: get lynx =D
[11:06] <x405> Or be 1337 and telnet to google.com port 80, type in GET / and hit enter.
[11:06] <Brainlessbob> well I need to know if i got internet access since im gonna get lynx :P
[11:06] <sleepy_> hello
[11:06] <jonguy> su
[11:06] <tplk> all: Hi! I'm not an Ubuntu user. Do you think, that I could install (and use!)
[11:06] <x405> Try pinging google or something.
[11:06] <jonguy> sorry
[11:07] <sleepy_> yes
[11:07] <tplk> all: Hi! I'm not an Ubuntu user. Do you think, that I could install (and use!) Ubuntu on an old machine: PII 350MHz, 192MB RAM, 4GB HDD? Has sb. of you tried sth. like that?
[11:07] <iNiku> jonguy, what happened to your sudo?
[11:07] <sleepy_> it's incredibly easy to install and use Ubuntu
[11:07] <Howitzer> damn
[11:07] <Howitzer> jonguy, you're screwed
[11:07] <chcuky_> Hello. I am using pirate wifi. i recieve the signal on a laptop. i would like to send the singal to a router so i can get some more computers online.  i got all the parts here but i need to config
[11:07] <sharpy> !mplayer
[11:07] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:07] <Howitzer> only way to enable su is by 'sudo passwd root'
[11:07] <jonguy> i deleted the hosts tab from network settings trying to get the internet to work and wala its a bug
[11:07] <Brainlessbob> tplk: Im on ubuntu with my 233mhz 81mb ram scsi drive compaq ^^
[11:08] <patrick_king> !nvidia
[11:08] <ubotu> Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:08] <iNiku> jonguy, that should have nothing to do with sudo
[11:08] <immolo> chcuky_, best way is to buy a wireless router that supports getting info from a wireless signal
[11:08] <jonguy> but it does
[11:08] <varsendagger> hey what's a dikfore?
[11:08] <tplk> Brainlessbob: wow! And do you use desktop environment?
[11:08] <varsendagger> it is in my /usr/bin
[11:08] <x405> varsen: We've heard that.
[11:08] <immolo> or buying a cheap box with a wireless card and make it a router
[11:08] <Brainlessbob> tplk: nah... server  ^^
[11:09] <chcuky_> ok i got 2 routers both netgear
[11:09] <jonguy> the error is unable to lookup  via gethostname()
[11:09] <Madpilot> varsendagger, delete it and see what doesn't work anymore ;)
[11:09] <chcuky_> i got card i got routers
[11:09] <tplk> Brainlessbob: ah
[11:09] <chcuky_> i need to config my lapto to send the singal to a router
[11:09] <Howitzer> Brainlessbob, use fluxbox :p
[11:09] <iNiku> jonguy, oh, sudo does that?
[11:09] <varsendagger> ok
[11:09] <x405> chcuky_, you might want to consider getting something like this: http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4735779?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
[11:09] <x405> Then plugging the router into that.
[11:10] <immolo> chcuky_, send it back via ethernet
[11:10] <MenZa> What's the lightest de out there -- I might get a low-end laptop soon :)
[11:10] <jonguy> alls i have to do is add something to the etc/hosts file to fix but i cannot edit the file
[11:10] <jonguy> becuase i cannot get into root
[11:10] <bth_> is there a special ubuntu way of adding an init.d script?
[11:10] <Brainlessbob> Howitzer: is fluxbox good?
[11:10] <x405> jon: Boot using a live-cd and edit the file that way.
[11:10] <chcuky_> thats almost what i got
[11:10] <sleepy_> yes
[11:10] <sleepy_> fluxbox is great
[11:10] <MenZa> bth_: umm... System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Apps :)?
[11:10] <jonguy> wish i had one
[11:10] <chcuky_> fluxbox rules
[11:11] <x405> jon: Well, download one.
[11:11] <Howitzer> it might be a bit hard to adapt at first
[11:11] <sleepy_> sorry, I'm butting in, but it's one of my favorite programs
[11:11] <Howitzer> OR
[11:11] <sleepy_> *shells
[11:11] <Android_D> is there any simple way of installing gcc-3.4 when apt-get does not work?
[11:11] <jonguy> guess so how big?
[11:11] <Brainlessbob> Well... after i get lynx i might get it :P
[11:11] <Howitzer> you could think about switching to DamnSmallLinux
[11:11] <x405> There's damnsmalllinux, 50 mb.
[11:11] <bth_> MenZa when does that run...? at system startup, right
[11:11] <Howitzer> rofl
[11:11] <sleepy_> does anyone know how to change your PATH?
[11:11] <varsendagger> Madpilot, yeah i just can't figure out what this dikfore
[11:11] <MenZa> bth_: when you login to X :)
[11:11] <pax> Brainlessbob: yes, fluxbox is light, simple, elegant yet practicle
[11:11] <Howitzer> bth_, at gnome startup
[11:11] <sleepy_> I need to install something, but gcc isn't working very well
[11:11] <x405> http://damnsmalllinux.org
[11:11] <iNiku> jonguy, you need to find a local root exploit and hack your own box :)
[11:11] <MenZa> oh?
[11:11] <bth_> no that is not what I want. I want to add something to system startup
[11:11] <immolo> Brainlessbob, use links2 :P
[11:11] <Howitzer> iNiku, that's the dumbest thing i've heard :D
[11:12] <Brainlessbob> pax: not as lightweight as terminal only :P
[11:12] <jonguy> thats what i was thinking
[11:12] <MenZa> Howitzer: However, it's true :)
[11:12] <Madpilot> varsendagger, in that case, I wouldn't recommend my method of testing!
[11:12] <x405> Download the iso, burn it, boot the cd, mount your hd, restore the hosts file, viola.
[11:12] <bth_> How can I add something to system startup?
[11:12] <Howitzer> c'mon
[11:12] <stevietool> someone familiar with amarok ?
[11:12] <sleepy_> does anyone know how to change your PATH?, I'm having trouble because none of my programs can compile because they can't find gcc.
[11:12] <x405> bth_: in the rc folders.
[11:12] <jonguy> sounds easier said then done
[11:12] <chcuky_> this what i got for a router      http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WGR614.php
[11:12] <Howitzer> you think a fully updated linux box can be hacked by a person that deleted his /etc/hosts ? (No offence :p )
[11:12] <jonguy> allthough ive yet to do it
[11:13] <iNiku> howitzer, no :D
[11:13] <grimboy> Which config file is for advanced mouse configuration? I have a really annoying mouse with extra buttons that I don't want but hit a lot because I have big chubby fingers.
[11:13] <MrElendig> grimboy: xorg.conf
[11:13] <iNiku> I'm a bit surprised that it kills sudo, though
[11:13] <Howitzer> meh
[11:13] <grimboy> Thanks
[11:13] <jonguy> some offense taken lol
[11:13] <Howitzer> me too
[11:13] <sleepy_> does anyone know how to change your PATH?, I'm having trouble because none of my programs can compile because they can't find gcc.
[11:13] <moparfan90> hello. i just installed apache and fowarded port80... and no one from the out side can see my site...
[11:13] <Howitzer> jonguy, try rebooting
[11:13] <moparfan90> anyone know why?
[11:13] <Howitzer> maybe the Windows way works :x
[11:14] <bth_> what's the proper way to add something to the rc foldres for startup
[11:14] <immolo> chcuky_, you would have to use your laptop to pick the signal up then use ethernet to forward the connection on and then the router will do the rest
[11:14] <HymnToLife> grimboy> there's a wiki page to handle mice with extra buttons
[11:14] <HymnToLife> !ouse
[11:14] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[11:14] <x405> mopar, could be your router. Them buggers are a pai.
[11:14] <HymnToLife> !mouse
[11:14] <ubotu> [mouse]  Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev Installing extra cursor themes can be done easily with gcursor
[11:14] <simonpca> plop
[11:14] <movpclr> moparfan90: could be because some ISPs block port 80 on your Cable/DSL modem
[11:14] <jonguy> tried rebooting i'll just give the 50meg i trial
[11:14] <Brainlessbob> can i use fluxbox with only a keyboard?
[11:14] <movpclr> moparfan90: I know Adelphia does
[11:14] <moparfan90> oo
[11:14] <moparfan90> how do i check if they did?
[11:14] <immolo> Brainlessbob, yeah
[11:15] <Howitzer> Brainlessbob, don't think so
[11:15] <imc_> hi having an interesting issue with nm-applet; I can't get it to appear. I see a process of nm-applet -sm disable - how can i get this to run enabled so I get the front end to appear on the top panel
[11:15] <immolo> Howitzer, of couse you can
[11:15] <Howitzer> eh
[11:15] <immolo> use fluxbox without a mouse
[11:15] <iNiku> well, renaming /etc/hosts to something else doesn't break sudo on my box
[11:15] <Howitzer> Oo
[11:15] <sleepy_> yeah, there are all kinds of great keyboard shortcuts you can use
[11:15] <x405> ...
[11:16] <movpclr> moparfan90: call them up, but I would check to make sure that if you are using a router, you have pot 80 forwarded properly to your machine.  Alternatively, you could change Apache to run on say, port 800 and then test and see if people can access it before calling.
[11:16] <x405> You tried something that someone said broke their computer?
[11:16] <iNiku> of course
[11:16] <x405> You are truely brave.
[11:16] <iNiku> because I know I can recover from it even if it does break sudo
[11:16] <moparfan90> movpclr, ill change the port.. how would i do this?
[11:16] <immolo> Brainlessbob, after starting up flux for the first time edit $home/.fluxbox/keys
[11:16] <iNiku> and I was pretty sure it wouldn't break anyway
[11:16] <immolo> keyboard shortcuts
[11:16] <sleepy_> can anyone help me with the user PATH?
[11:16] <Brainlessbob> immolo: i see... i keep that in mind
[11:17] <sleepy_> please?
[11:17] <x405> Uh...don't you just type like $PATH =blah to set a new path in a console?
[11:17] <immolo> Brainlessbob, check out the gentoo doc as it has some handy stuff on configuing fluxbox which also will work on ubuntu
[11:17] <movpclr> moparfan90: goto /etc/apache2/ports.conf and add "Listen 800" then restart apache
[11:17] <moparfan90> ok
[11:17] <chcuky_> immolo, how do i forward the siganl. i got regular cables and crossovers
[11:18] <sleepy_> well, I need to set my PATH to recognise gcc, so that I can compile binary
[11:18] <x405> sleepy: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+set+path
[11:18] <sleepy_> but I don't know how to alter it, or where gcc is
[11:18] <immolo> chcuky_, I guess by using bind
[11:18] <sleepy_> I tried using 'locate gcc', but it returned too many things
[11:18] <Android_D> can I add things to the apt-cache?
[11:18] <x405> type "whereis gcc" in a terminal.
[11:18] <sleepy_> there were probably about twenty folders
[11:19] <iNiku> jonguy, what happens if you type 'sudo id' in a console?
[11:19] <jonguy> btw i was tring to setup a broadband connection and it pppeoconf had a error and said there is no connection (but there is)
[11:19] <sleepy_> ok
[11:19] <sleepy_> I got four that time
[11:19] <moparfan90> how do i restart apache... i forgot the command
[11:19] <immolo> chcuky_, your setup is alittle complated and is pron to error
[11:19] <sleepy_> so how do I add those to the PATH?
[11:19] <tritium> moparfan90: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[11:19] <jonguy> sudo: unable to lookup via getnamehost()
[11:19] <moparfan90> ok thanks
[11:19] <movpclr> moparfan90: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[11:20] <eck> jonguy: you don't have your hostname set up properly
[11:20] <x405> Yeah...
[11:20] <x405> He deleted his hosts file.
[11:20] <Brainlessbob> My server is odd... it wont shutdown nor restart. it hooksup in restarting/shutdown system
[11:20] <jonguy> no i deleted the tab in network settings
[11:20] <eck> x405: oh...  well i guess that would be it :)
[11:20] <chcuky_> immolo,  well i dont have a steady internet connect i can only use wifi, where do i get bind
[11:21] <jonguy> close to the same
[11:21] <immolo> chcuky_, apt :P
[11:21] <immolo> or if you are a source man isc.org
[11:21] <antiwyrd> hi guys could you give me some help with installing ubuntu please
[11:21] <chcuky_> ok ill check it out
[11:21] <chcuky_> nothing else i can do then
[11:22] <speyer> !mplayer
[11:22] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:22] <antiwyrd> i'm booting up in the default mode and its halting  before it gets to the install config
[11:22] <immolo> chcuky_, drop me aline if you get stuck I'm quite interested to see if this willl work
[11:22] <chcuky_> dude i got too many files is there a more specific nane
[11:22] <chcuky_> name
[11:22] <immolo> named
[11:22] <immolo> :P
[11:22] <speyer> what package do i need to be able to compile ?
[11:23] <tritium> speyer: build-essential
[11:23] <speyer> thanks
[11:23] <dooglus> MenZa: thanks, that's what I wanted (the login screen config window)
[11:23] <chcuky_> bind , downloading it now
[11:23] <dooglus> which is the default theme for gdm?  'human'?  or 'human circle of friends'?
[11:24] <iNiku> ah. of course deleting hosts didn't break my sudo because I had a working name server in resolv.conf
[11:24] <bakert> human
[11:24] <sleepy_> does anyone know how to change the PATH?
[11:24] <chcuky_> i down loaded it now how do i open it
[11:25] <bakert> sleepy - which version?
[11:25] <Android_D> can I add things to the apt-cache?
[11:25] <immolo> chcuky_, you need some coffee and alot of reading
[11:25] <sleepy_> I don't know, I need to add gcc to my PATH so that I can compile source
[11:25] <chcuky_> o darn
[11:25] <chcuky_> well i better do something
[11:25] <bakert> sleepy - on breezy?  make an entry in .bashrc in your home dir
[11:25] <sleepy_> because I can't './configure' anything due to it not being able to fine it
[11:26] <sleepy_> breezy is the latest version right?
[11:26] <iNiku> chcuky_, you're going to need LOTS of coffee before you get named to do what you're asking :)
[11:26] <xbox_sky> -f command not found... huh ??? slrn tells me to use -f bla bla in order to install a config file, any suggestions?
[11:26] <MenZa> sleepy_: stable, yes.
[11:26] <sybariten> do you know how hard it is finding web info on the mount with umask syntax, without ending up on pages discussing fstab syntax?
[11:26] <bakert> are you sure gcc is installed?
[11:26] <sleepy_> ok, thanks
[11:26] <MenZa> The latest is Dapper. 6.06
[11:26] <sleepy_> yes
[11:26] <chcuky_> is it that hard
[11:26] <bakert> export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/thing
[11:26] <chcuky_> i dont even have a clue so i should give up
[11:26] <sleepy_> I installed it with apt-get, and it confirms it installation whenever I've tried again
[11:27] <sleepy_> ok
[11:27] <sleepy_> thank you very much
[11:27] <iNiku> no, just do the "a lot of reading" part
[11:27] <chcuky_> well what do i reead
[11:27] <xbox_sky> -f command not found... huh ??? slrn tells me to use -f bla bla in order to install a config file, any suggestions?
[11:27] <iNiku> I'd start with tcp/ip networking basics
[11:28] <EKm> After installation of ubuntu linux it asked me to restart the computer and after doing so it failed to startup at the point where it said: hotplug something or other... It just stopped at that point and didn't say ok next to it after about 10 minutes
[11:28] <tritium> xbox_sky: -f is a switch.  You would use that with a command
[11:28] <xbox_sky> tritrium yup that's what i'm trying to do
[11:28] <bakert> EKm - try Ctrl-C at that point and see if it gets further?
[11:28] <xbox_sky> -f /home/oscar/.jnewsrc --create
[11:28] <EKm> okey dokey
[11:28] <chcuky_> well i am stuck then
[11:28] <xbox_sky> -f command not found
[11:28] <chcuky_> i just wanted someone to help me walk threw it
[11:29] <chcuky_> it didnt know it was going to take a month to read up on the matter
[11:29] <bakert> chcuky_: what format is the thing you have downloaded in?
[11:29] <sleepy_> it says "export: '/usr/bin/gcc' : is not a valid identifier"
[11:29] <xbox_sky> -f
[11:29] <Brainlessbob> Isnt it funny when my 3com router cant find a 3com network card?
[11:29] <iNiku> chcuky_, what exactly are you trying to do with named?
[11:29] <chcuky_> what is named
[11:30] <iNiku> BIND
[11:30] <patrick_king> wats the command to install a .deb file
[11:30] <iNiku> I believe that's the package you just downloaded?
[11:30] <_jason> !deb
[11:30] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[11:30] <bakert> patrick_king: dpkg -i <name of>
[11:30] <chcuky_> dude im trying to take a wifi signal from my laptop and send it to a router
[11:30] <patrick_king> cheers
[11:30] <tritium> xbox_sky: I told you, that's not a command
[11:30] <iNiku> chcuky_, strictly speaking, that's impossible
[11:30] <xbox_sky> tritium sorry?
[11:30] <chcuky_> what no way
[11:30] <bakert> sleepy_: you added a line at the bottom of a file called .bashrc in your home dir?
[11:30] <iNiku> can't be done
[11:31] <chcuky_> for real
[11:31] <tritium> xbox_sky: -f is a command _switch_, but not a command itself
[11:31] <chcuky_> dont seem that hard
[11:31] <sleepy_> there is no .bashrc in my home folder
[11:31] <tritium> iNiku: sure it can
[11:31] <xbox_sky> the program tells me to -f /home/oscar/.jnewsrc --create
[11:31] <iNiku> you mean, you're connectingto a neighbor's wifi on your laptop?
[11:31] <chcuky_> i think it can be done and im  newb
[11:31] <xbox_sky> is that wrong tritium?
[11:31] <bakert> sleepy_: it wont show up with an ls
[11:31] <chcuky_> yes i got his signal steady and strong
[11:31] <tritium> xbox_sky: yes.  What are you trying to do?
[11:32] <sleepy_> I'm not using an ls
[11:32] <tritium> chcuky_: you really shouldn't steal bandwidth
[11:32] <kracker> any suggestions on trying to install a Netgear PCMCIA Wireless network card (WG511T)
[11:32] <chcuky_> i want to take it from my recieveing laptop to a router so i can plug more into
[11:32] <sleepy_> I'm in gnome
[11:32] <bakert> sleepy_: because it starts with a dot but you can see it if you do ls -a or if you try and edit it (vi ~/.bashrc)
[11:32] <iNiku> well, there's no way you can "send the signal to a router"
[11:32] <chcuky_> i dont steal bandwith
[11:32] <chcuky_> i asked for permisssion
[11:32] <sleepy_> so how to I edit it then?
[11:32] <bakert> sleepy_: also, don't put gcc in there, just the folder.  it will look in the folders on your path to find the file.
[11:32] <iNiku> what you could do, if you have a wireless router that can do it, is you could configure the router to connect to their wifi
[11:32] <sleepy_> oh
[11:32] <sleepy_> ok
[11:32] <bakert> sleepy_: but i don't think that is your problem
[11:32] <iNiku> as a client bridge
[11:32] <xbox_sky> i'm trying to run slrn a newsreader and it tells me to create a config file by typing -f /home/oscar/.jnewsrc --create and then it complaisn -f is not a command
[11:32] <sleepy_> in where?
[11:32] <chcuky_> ok
[11:32] <sleepy_> I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers
[11:33] <bakert> sleepy_: if you have gcc installed properly it would surely be on your path
[11:33] <iNiku> or, if you can't do that, you would have to configure your laptop as a NAT router
[11:33] <tritium> xbox_sky: you're missing a command before the "-f"
[11:33] <chcuky_> how do i get into my router settings
[11:33] <sleepy_> and it keeps saying that gcc isn't there, or isn't enabled
[11:33] <tritium> sleepy_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:33] <sleepy_> I used apt-get to install it
[11:33] <Madpilot> sleepy_, have you installed build-essential?
[11:33] <xbox_sky> tritium ok.. but I have no idea what I should type
[11:33] <kracker> grrr, any idea, link to guide, etc would be most helpful
[11:33] <HymnToLife> you don't need GCC to install Nvidia drivrs I think
[11:33] <HymnToLife> !nvidia
[11:33] <ubotu> Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:33] <bakert> sleepy_: what happens if you do "which gcc" at the command line
[11:33] <Android_D> what does "E: Unimplemented" mean when I use apt-cache add ?
[11:33] <tritium> xbox_sky: read the documentation then
[11:33] <bakert> sleepy_: oh yes, build essentials that will be it
[11:34] <speyer> ls /usr/lib/win32/ the correct directory of win32codecs for mplayer ?
[11:34] <xbox_sky> I have
[11:34] <vinboy> hi
[11:34] <sleepy_> "/usr/bin/gcc"
[11:34] <sleepy_> ok
[11:34] <xbox_sky> same thing it tells me to use the command I've shown above
[11:34] <vinboy> how do I see my log file for D4X?
[11:34] <vinboy> it keep crashing
[11:34] <tritium> xbox_sky: that makes no sense
[11:34] <speyer> !java
[11:34] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:34] <xbox_sky> tritium tell me about it
[11:34] <bakert> sleepy_: try sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[11:34] <iNiku> chcuky_, what kind of a router do you have? can it be configured as a wireless client?
[11:34] <tritium> build-essential (no "s")
[11:34] <sleepy_> yeah
[11:34] <sharpy> how do i install the audio codec family: mad? mplayer is asking for it.
[11:34] <sleepy_> that's what I'm doing
[11:34] <bakert> sorry listen to tritium
[11:34] <sleepy_> ok, thank you very much
[11:35] <iNiku> or rather, client bridge
[11:35] <xbox_sky> tx for trying though, i'm gonna use google for solutions
[11:35] <xbox_sky> or use another client
[11:35] <tritium> sleepy_: but you do know that you don't need gcc to install the nvidia drivers, right?
[11:35] <sharpy> i did a apt-cache search mad but nothing like the mad codec?
[11:35] <__filip_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=38467 somebody have that theme that can send it to me?
[11:35] <EKm> I tried pressing CTRL+c WHEN IT STOPPED STARTING UP BUT IT DID NOTHING
[11:35] <EKm> oops, caps
[11:35] <HymnToLife> !caps
[11:35] <chcuky_> iNiku, http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WGR614.php
[11:35] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[11:35] <sleepy_> it keeps telling me that I do
[11:35] <bakert> EKm: and there's no error message?
[11:36] <EKm> no
[11:36] <bakert> EKm: it just hangs?
[11:36] <EKm> yes
[11:36] <bakert> EKm: does a live cd work for you?
[11:36] <bakert> Ekm: or is that what you are trying?
[11:36] <EKm> haven't tried
[11:36] <EKm> can do if you want?
[11:36] <bakert> EKm: has it ever booted?
[11:36] <iNiku> chcuky_, okay. without bothering to read through all of the page, I'm pretty sure it won't.
[11:36] <EKm> I have just installed
[11:36] <chcuky_> ok
[11:37] <sleepy_> ok, I need to exit x if I'm going to install the drivers, I installed build-essential, and thanl you very much for the help
[11:37] <tritium> sleepy_: _what_ keeps telling you that?
[11:37] <chcuky_> well then i give up then sorry to bother ya
[11:37] <iNiku> so, your only option is to configure your linux laptop as a NAT router
[11:37] <sleepy_> the nVidia driver installer
[11:37] <tritium> sleepy_: ubuntu has nvidia driver packages
[11:37] <tritium> !nvidia
[11:37] <ubotu> Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:37] <x405> chcuky_: If you have $50 to spend, you might want to get this http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4735779?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
[11:37] <iNiku> assuming your laptop runs linux
[11:37] <sleepy_> yeah, but I can't get the resolution above 680x480
[11:37] <tritium> yes you can
[11:37] <sleepy_> ok, thanks
[11:37] <chcuky_> i have a acess point to
[11:37] <sleepy_> it won't go above that
[11:38] <tritium> sleepy_: I've used them at 1600x1200
[11:38] <tritium> (the ubuntu packages)
[11:38] <EKm> I have only recently installed and this is the first time to try and boot up after installing
[11:38] <x405> That's not just an access point...it works as an access client as well.
[11:38] <sleepy_> when I go to the resolution settings it doesn't let me
[11:38] <chcuky_> well i guess ill go buy that
[11:38] <sleepy_> if I open the drop down box there are no other options
[11:38] <x405> I have one, with a 8+ dbi antenna to pick up the cities wifi...
[11:38] <tritium> sleepy_: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:38] <manusmad> plz anyone need help with ubuntu installation on SATA HDD... the installer is not showing the partitions
[11:38] <chcuky_> if i cant do it anyother way
[11:38] <sleepy_> no
[11:38] <tritium> sleepy_: try it
[11:38] <tritium> !resolution
[11:38] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:38] <x405> 72% connection strength over a distance of about 100 feet.
[11:39] <iNiku> do you run linux on your laptop?
[11:39] <bakert> iNiku: yes
[11:39] <Brainlessbob_> mandusmad: It works perfect for me. What SATA controller do you got?
[11:39] <iNiku> chcuky_?
[11:39] <sleepy_> 'nv' means nvidia right?
[11:39] <EKm> I have only recently installed and this is the first time to try and boot up after installing
[11:39] <bakert> EKm: sorry not really sure what to suggest.  if you have a livecd definitely give that a go and see what happens
[11:39] <chcuky_> iniku, yep
[11:39] <manusmad> Brainlessbob: I have a Seagate 160GB HDD
[11:39] <tritium> sleepy_: no, nv is the open-source driver, _not_ the proprietary one.  Please read the wiki page I sent you.
[11:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sleepy_: nv is the open-source, kinda limited in capability driver.  To get the official one, you'll have to install the 'nvidia-glx' package.
[11:40] <EKm> k
[11:40] <EKm> cheers
[11:40] <bakert> EKm: try choosing the limited/safe/failsafe mode if you get the option
[11:40] <bakert> oh
[11:40] <sleepy_> ok, where do I find out what the bus identifier is?
[11:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sleepy_: It should be auto-detected.
[11:40] <tritium> sleepy_: leave it blank
[11:40] <iNiku> and the other computers you want to connect, do they have wifi or are they connected to a switch?
[11:41] <sleepy_> ok
[11:41] <chcuky_> some have wifi and i got a switch to
[11:41] <tritium> sleepy_: you selected "nvidia", rather than "nv" I hope...
[11:41] <Brainlessbob_> manusmad: what motherboard then?
[11:41] <sleepy_> it's already been filled in
[11:41] <tritium> sleepy_: fine
[11:41] <manusmad> Brainlessbob: Sis182 RAID controller, according to my Device manager... Asus K8S-MX motherboard
[11:41] <sleepy_> there's no nvidia option
[11:41] <iNiku> what I'm getting at is, you could configure the laptop as a NAT router between your neighbor's wifi and your own switch, then connect the other computers to the switch
[11:42] <chcuky_> iNiku how would i do that
[11:42] <lekvar> Does anyone know whether it's typically a problem to get wide format external monitors working properly with older laptops?
[11:42] <iNiku> it's not terribly difficult but it's not trivial, either
[11:42] <tritium> sleepy_: then you've not followed the wiki page instructions to install the nvidia packages
[11:42] <lekvar> (or even newer ones for that matter)
[11:42] <iNiku> you'd have to read up on networking, iptables and stuff
[11:42] <sleepy_> I am enabling the restricted packages right now
[11:42] <sleepy_> I'm sorry
[11:42] <bakert> tritium: i have my dell flat panel 24" working with my thinkpad.  it was touch and go for a few hours though
[11:43] <sleepy_> I'll just follow the wiki, thank you for the reference
[11:43] <bakert> tritium: it is a new laptop though so doesn't really answer your question
[11:43] <iNiku> I'm not going to talk you through it
[11:43] <Ohzie> What does ubuntu call it's network interfaces?
[11:43] <lekvar> x405: The kind with a mains connector on one end and an rj plug on the other? ;)
[11:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lekvar: It can be... mostly it's just a matter of reconfigure xorg.conf, but if you have a weird video card, it can become extremely difficult.
[11:43] <Brainlessbob_> manusmad: dunno but i guess... either ubuntu lacks the drivers for the controller, the harddrive is corrupt or its supposed to be so.
[11:43] <tritium> bakert: which question did I ask you?
[11:43] <bakert> tritium: about wide monitor
[11:43] <Ohzie> Oh nevermind
[11:43] <bakert> tritium: or have i got confused
[11:43] <chcuky_> iNiku, is there a wiki
[11:43] <tritium> bakert: hmm, I don't recall...
[11:43] <iNiku> dunno, possibly.
[11:44] <tritium> bakert: I have a Thinkpad also, by the way.  I also use an external monitor to get an extended desktop
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> widescreen lcd?  - mine worked fine - on ubuntu.. amazing enough. :P other disrtos ive had to use that 'x modeline generator' web site
[11:44] <Brainlessbob_> "Temporary failure in name resolution" what does it mean? Cant access URL?
[11:44] <iNiku> but it really helps if you understand the concepts you're dealing with
[11:44] <lekvar> They have an x modeline generator site now? Ooo!
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> lekvar,  been one out for ages
[11:45] <bakert> lekvar: sorry, it was you i meant to tell about my monitor.  wide monitor working with new thinkpad
[11:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Brainlessbob_: That sounds like a dns problem.
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> several even i think. google for 'modeline generator'
[11:45] <Brainlessbob_> damn 3com router!
[11:45] <tritium> bakert: :)
[11:45] <mdke> how do I force a package to get removed when it doesn't want to because of a failure?
[11:45] <chcuky_> well where do i do the nat thing at
[11:45] <tritium> mdke: what kind of failure?
[11:46] <chcuky_> ill take it from there if you can get me to there
[11:46] <lekvar> Incidentally what's up with the _increasing_ dot pitch on lcd's lately?  More dots per inch is better not less...
[11:46] <mdke> tritium:  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[11:46] <lekvar> bakert: thakns
[11:46] <x405> http://www.google.com/search?q=configure+linux+nat Do what anyone else would have to do...google.
[11:46] <lekvar> bakert: I'm guessing yours isnt using neomagic video chips
[11:46] <x405> You know, google needs it's own theme song.
[11:46] <tritium> mdke: on occasion, I've edited the script
[11:47] <mdke> tritium: good idea. lemme try that
[11:47] <tritium> mdke: it sounds like a bug should be filed, but it'll help you remove it in the short term
[11:47] <simonpca> plop
[11:47] <bakert> lekvar: nope sorry
[11:47] <x405> Hmm, is 128 MB of ram good enough to run the default interface?
[11:47] <lekvar> anyway sonuds like it's unlikely to be much of an issue. i'm perfectly willing to fiddle with modelines if i have to
[11:47] <mdke> tritium: it's ok, it was my package. that's done the job, thanks
[11:48] <Blissex> x405: no.
[11:48] <bakert> x405: not sure, what about xubuntu?
[11:48] <tritium> mdke: :)
[11:48] <iNiku> hmm. is anybody else getting this in their logs?
[11:48] <iNiku> Apr 30 00:45:45 localhost kernel: [4304983.221000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[11:48] <iNiku> Apr 30 00:45:45 localhost kernel: [4304983.221000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[11:48] <Android_D> can I upgrade apt-get without having an internet connection?
[11:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> iNiku: Are you getting a lot of those?
[11:48] <owh> As a debian user of many years, I have a silly question. I'm contemplating installing Ubuntu on a client machine. If I do that, and a future version of Ubuntu is released, can they boot from the new CD and upgrade their workstation without supervision?
[11:48] <iceman> anyone here able to give greatly needed assistance on "networking" a Old Operating system 'NeXTSTEP"
[11:48] <x405> I get that when I press a weird little 'i' key on my laptop.
[11:48] <viator> umm no
[11:48] <iNiku> kubuntu 5.10 and that happens every time I press shift-cursor keys
[11:48] <whiter> is there a program that works similar to mac osx's bottom panel for linux?
[11:48] <whiter> the transparent panel thats in macosx
[11:48] <HymnToLife> Android_D> yes, if you have the packages on a CD or anyhere else
[11:48] <iNiku> like shift-pgup/down for scrolling in a terminal
[11:49] <bakert> owh: unlikely, but it won't hurt them too much if they don't
[11:49] <imbrandon> ohw yes
[11:49] <imbrandon> owh yes lol
[11:49] <Android_D> HymnToLife: do you know where I can get the packages?
[11:49] <HymnToLife> Android_D> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:49] <iceman> dang dang how to get "samba" configures ...
[11:49] <lekvar> thanks guys
[11:50] <owh> So that's 50% that says yes, and 50% that says no - imbrandon, bakert :-)
[11:50] <iNiku> or shift-left/right to change tabs in konsole
[11:50] <viator> move your panel to the bottom
[11:50] <viator> enable transparency
[11:50] <whiter> im using xfce.
[11:50] <imbrandon> owh, it works the same as debain soo in that respect if you would let them unsupervised with a debain apt-get upgrade then yes
[11:50] <whiter> and it doesnt have transparency
[11:50] <chcuky_> iNiku, where do do the NAT
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[11:51] <ubotu> well, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[11:51] <owh> imbrandon: Does the CD do this itself, or do they need to get their hands dirty?
[11:51] <iNiku> chcuky_, iptables
[11:51] <imbrandon> owh,  a little dirty but not anything you cant show them in 5 seconds
[11:51] <iceman> Dr_Willis wish it were ubuntu ... cant find Nextstep operating system irc ... : (
[11:51] <owh> imbrandon: Except that "show" involves a trip of 3000km :-)
[11:52] <owh> imbrandon: Actually, that's one-way :-)
[11:52] <imbrandon> basicly add the cd to sources.list and do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:52] <Android_D> HymnToLife: say I have a *.deb for gcc 3.4 and I want to add it to my apt-cache or install it with apt-get. is there anyway to do it besides using "apt-cache add" ?
[11:52] <imbrandon> owh so if they can add the cd to sources.list on their own then it should be all gravy
[11:52] <owh> imbrandon: Does the CD allow you to boot from it and detect a previous install and offer to upgrade?
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> iceman,  i dont even know where you would get NextStep any more. :P  other then torrents.. and even then. i never used it. Lol
[11:52] <MrNight> hello
[11:52] <imbrandon> owh not sure
[11:53] <owh> imbrandon: Hmm, might need to play a little with VMWare before I let them loose :)
[11:53] <HymnToLife> Android_D> copy it to /var/apt/cache/archiv (or something like that)
[11:53] <james__> he llo
[11:53] <owh> imbrandon: Thanks for your time.
[11:53] <imbrandon> owh , will they have internet ? they can upgrade via the apt-get dist-upgrade option too
[11:53] <james__> having trouble configing fluxbox
[11:53] <Android_D> HymnToLife: thanks, i will try that
[11:53] <owh> imbrandon: They do have Internet.
[11:53] <owh> imbrandon: Hmm.
[11:54] <imbrandon> owh,  that might be the best option for them then
[11:54] <MrNight> is there ws_ftp on ubuntu?
[11:54] <imbrandon> MrNight, no but there is gftp
[11:54] <owh> imbrandon: I was attracted to Ubuntu because of the regular CD release. I'll have another think about this.
[11:54] <MrNight> how I can use imbrandon.. I cant find it :(
[11:54] <iceman> Dr_Willis Ebay ... got the stupid thing installed ... not networking :(
[11:54] <bakert> MrNight: try gftp?
[11:54] <imbrandon> MrNight,  "sudo apt-get install gftp" then it will be on your menu
[11:55] <owh> Thanks imbrandon, bakert.
[11:55] <imbrandon> owh np
[11:55] <bakert> MrNight: sudo apt-get install gftp
[11:55] <iceman> Unable to bind parent eror
[11:55] <bakert> MrNight: should put itself under Applications, Internet, or run from commandline
[11:55] <Android_D> HymnToLife: /var/apt/ does not seem to exist
[11:55] <MrNight> :(
[11:55] <Brainlessbob_> how do I view MAC adress in terminal?
[11:55] <iceman> cannot get my host address :(
[11:55] <x405> ifconfig
[11:56] <x405> Or...you can use nmap and scan yourself.
[11:56] <bakert> HWaddr under ifconfig
[11:56] <imbrandon> Brainlessbob_, ifconfig
[11:56] <roryy> Android_D: /var/cache/apt/archives might be what you want
[11:56] <Herbchef> Any other recommended FTP clients besides gFTP?
[11:56] <phantez> FTP classical :p
[11:56] <bakert> Herbchef: ftp?!!!
[11:56] <roryy> Android_D: why don't you just use 'dpkg -i' though ?
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> for ftp - i use 'mc'
[11:56] <MrNight> bakert I didnt get u :(
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> :P
[11:56] <x405> konqueror has ftp support.
[11:56] <Brainlessbob_> Thanks ^^
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> then again - you are better off using ssh instead of ftp.
[11:56] <imbrandon> MrNight,  "sudo apt-get install gftp" then it will be on your menu
[11:56] <MrNight> what is sudo bakert  ?
[11:57] <deefzi> how come i can't see my windows-hd (fdisk -l /dev/hda and it shows ntfs-partitions) but it doesn't automount them
[11:57] <bakert> MrNight: Open a terminal (Applications, Accessories, Terminal)
[11:57] <MrNight> ah
[11:57] <MrNight> ok
[11:57] <deefzi> althought it says "device-mapper: dm-linear: device lookup failed" on kernel startup
[11:57] <bakert> MrNight: Then type "sudo apt-get install gftp", Enter (no quotes)
[11:57] <MrPrimate> has anyone here had any luck using a radeon x1300 ?
[11:57] <bakert> MrNight: that will install gftp
[11:57] <phantez> Why every time I launch my computer it scan the other partition and said list of numbers
[11:57] <phantez> ?
[11:58] <phantez> sorry for forgetting the s i m not used to speak in english
[11:58] <Android_D> SO after I add the *.deb file to that dir, how to I install the package?
[11:58] <iceman> how to SUDO in Nextstep
[11:58] <MrNight> Reading package lists... Done
[11:58] <MrNight> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:58] <MrNight> E: Couldn't find package gftp
[11:58] <whiter> Android_D - sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[11:59] <whiter> MrNight did you enable the universe/multiverse repositories?
[11:59] <imbrandon> MrNight, is your universe repos enabled
[11:59] <marten> tak uz to funguje :)) newim v cem byla chyba
[11:59] <bakert> MrNight: you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:59] <MrNight> I didnt do that its my second time I use ubuntu
[11:59] <imbrandon> !repositories
[11:59] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:59] <whiter> MrNight: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:59] <roryy> Android_D: you can probably use apt-get then.  I recommend not bothering put it in /var/cache/<blah> and just using   'dpkg -i'   to install it.
[11:59] <bakert> MrNight: best to look at www.ubuntuguide.org that will show you how to do that
[11:59] <sleepy_> ok, I'm sorry to bother you, but I followed the wiki guide, and everything worked, but I still can't get my resolution above 640x480
[12:00] <Tendou> in ubuntu install with lvm, it says max swap size is 256mb, why is that?