=== mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA2 [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-169-110.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu [02:41] hi HedgeMage [02:43] hi LaserJock [02:43] What's up? [02:44] oh, I'm working on the house a bit [02:44] putting in new flooring and a dishwasher [02:44] how about you? [02:47] HedgeMage: are you a teacher? === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-220-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [03:37] Laser_away: no, my mom is :) === B4zzA3 [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-175-214.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu === nomad [n=nomad@c-68-50-246-80.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === zeke [n=zeke@69-170-37-212.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu === zeke [n=zeke@69-170-37-212.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu === zekesmz [n=zekesmz@69-170-37-212.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:37] Hello - I just installed Edubuntu, and if anyone from the dev team is in this room - I wanted to extend a heartfelt thanks for creating this. It's amazing [05:38] Laser_Jock(Laser_Away) is on the Wiki/documentation team, but I'm not sure about the others. [05:41] well, just wanted to pass along kudos and thanks. I set up this box for my 1 and 3 year old to play with [05:41] and I think it's fantastic.... [05:41] I like it too, [05:41] I'd like to see it used more in schools [05:41] yep [05:42] my sister is a teacher [05:42] i emailed her about it [05:42] luckily her boyfriend is a sysadmin [05:42] Or any distribution of linux for that matter [05:42] I think its up to the county board though, and they always pick windows because its what everyone has at home [05:44] And because since they still have to purchase computers, and since Dell makes the most craptastic computers and also sells them the cheapest, they come with windows pre-installed [05:44] totally. well, just wanted to float my sentiments to a place where they might get heard. g'nite! === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu === P47|LL0 [n=sopmac@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [07:59] ogra: all the feature sets/improvements you sent me are admin specific :/ [08:00] morning jsgotangco [08:00] hey jonathan [08:00] morning jsgotangco highvoltage [08:01] what's your local time there? [08:01] morning juliux [08:01] its 2pm sunday [08:01] and very hot [08:01] hi highvoltage and juliux [08:01] hi LaserJock [08:01] hey LaserJock [08:01] i think i should go to the gym this morning, i can feel my body dumbing down after three solid days behind laptop [08:02] hehe [08:02] im not risking it now, its like38C here at the moment [08:03] highvoltage: looks like you've got lots of support for the Edubuntu Council, I should leav gracefully ;-) [08:04] highvoltage: i need your help on my food spec [08:05] LaserJock: leave? [08:06] LaserJock: yeah, i'm quite surprised by the support, but pleasently so :) [08:06] jsgotangco: sure, sounds like fun :) [08:06] jsgotangco: will you still be around in ~3 hours? [08:06] yeah [08:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFoodProductSpecification [08:06] heh === jsgotangco is obviously bored [08:09] *sigh* it's so hard to be popular: http://www.jonathancarter.co.za/ [08:09] :p [08:10] highvoltage: I just thought I'd try it since nobody else had emailed. :-) You have my support [08:11] LaserJock: thanks! [08:11] highvoltage: jeeze what is your bandwidth limit? [08:12] highvoltage, can i have an autograph from you? *G* [08:12] highvoltage, your site is down [08:13] i am so not moving to ZA [08:13] hehe [08:15] LaserJock: 6GB [08:15] :) [08:15] man, you are popular [08:15] luckily it's april 30, so tomorrow it should be fine again [08:15] LaserJock: i was just joking ;) [08:16] that's probably just the cake images that took up all the bandwidth. it's the ubuntu food that's so popular ;) === highvoltage is off, see you later, #edubuntu [08:16] ciao [08:18] cu [08:41] jsgotangco, do you know in which directory the lts.conf has to be? [08:41] sorry i dont remember its been a while since i tested ltsp itself === juliux wants to test sound [08:43] im trying to come up with some end-user improvements but couldn't think of any that are edubuntu-specific === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [09:17] has someone tested sound on the thinclients? === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === neostyle [n=neostyle@chello213047124050.36.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === Didius [n=Miranda@ip-81-11-161-246.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #edubuntu [10:52] Hi [10:55] anyone online? [10:55] yeah, millions of people. [10:55] cool :D [10:55] :p [10:55] can i ask you a question? [10:55] you just did! [10:56] another one then? :D [10:56] so i assume it's completely possible [10:56] sure, go for it [10:56] here comes [10:56] Does anyone knows if any software like this http://www.netsupportschool.com/ exists for linux? === highvoltage looks [10:57] it gives the teacher the option to control the pc's of the students [10:57] ogra is working on something similar, called the student control panel [10:58] it will be included in the 6.10 version of edubuntu [10:58] cool, edubuntu rocks [10:58] thnx a lot [10:58] you're welcome [10:58] is there any sourceforge page about it? [10:58] not that i know of, there's probably a launchpad page though. [10:59] thnx, i 'll see if I can found something [11:13] Bluekuja: "There is also a special support group for using Edubuntu in schools." <-- what is this group? === cbx33 [n=prochat1@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:23] hey people [11:23] highvoltage, nice editing [11:25] "With a school cohort taking an average of 5 years" <--- what's a cohort? [11:25] hi cbx33. thanks. [11:32] morning cbx33 [11:33] cbx33, can you test a bug into ubiquity? [11:33] highvoltage, do you know how to enable sound on the thinclient? === alexandros_se [i=ctrl@2-1-1-18a.spa.sth.bostream.se] has joined #edubuntu [11:35] juliux, can late [11:35] r [11:35] where can I get on contact with someone behind edubuntu / ubuntu? [11:35] highvoltage, its a year group [11:35] cbx33, ok [11:35] sorry jUst had news our guinea pig has passed away [11:35] bbl [11:37] alexandros_se: with regards to? [11:38] alexandros_se: your best bet might be to post your request to edubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com [11:38] alexandros_se: but that would depend on the basis you'd like to get in contact with [11:38] highvoltage: I'm a projectleader for a global internet school project [11:39] nominated by U.N. for best initiative [11:39] ICT for poverty reduction.... [11:39] alexandros_se: excellent [11:39] alexandros_se: i suggest you send an e-mail to myself, Olliver and Jane. [11:39] that would be jonathan@ubuntu.com, ogra@ubuntu.com, and janew@ubuntu.com [11:40] I was thinking of making something together with ubuntu [11:40] do you have a URL to your project home page? [11:40] I have great 'web 2.0' programmers... [11:41] highvoltage: hang on... [11:41] Bluekuja: "Edubuntu is shipped with LTSP, the Linux Terminal Server Project, whilst not a true thin client system" <-- how is it not a true thin client system? [11:41] alexandros_se: ok [11:41] highvoltage that was me [11:42] sorry [11:42] ogra and i had a discussion about if it was or not [11:43] in a tc system, doesn't the local machine run the apps, and the app server is all read only [11:44] cbx33: nope, a tc system runs all the apps from the server [11:44] cbx33: like ubuntu [11:44] cbx33: when you start running applications locally, then it's not a true tc system anymore [11:45] oh......my apologies ' [11:45] cbx33: we'll only have support for that in the next release [11:45] cbx33: no problem :) [11:45] chabnge it [11:52] how does it look generally [11:55] has someone test sound on thinclients? === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.226.44.200] has joined #edubuntu [11:56] juliux there are docs on that [11:56] but i haven't tested [11:56] yet [11:57] cbx33, has you a link? [11:57] i have set SOUND = Y in my lts.conf [11:57] but this dont work [11:57] search for local devices on the wiki [11:57] and ltsp [11:57] thxs === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === sankar [n=sankarsh@220.226.13.229] has joined #edubuntu [12:26] I'm on a Pocket PC chatting, so forgive me if the quality of my prose is perhaps a little overly populated with spelling, syntax and grammatical inconsistencies. [12:26] whooops [12:26] I have a pocketpc as well [12:26] with linux :) [12:26] cbx33: it's quite cool [12:26] pah pocketpc [12:26] zaurus ;) [12:28] juliux: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqHx4700 [12:29] juliux: *roxxx* [12:30] pah === juliux loves gpe [12:30] yes [12:30] it's like gnome [12:30] jup [12:30] and the screen resolution of the hx4700 *wow* [12:31] i have bought my zaurus for 100 incl wlan cf vard [12:31] http://wservices.ch/~lucas/hx4700/ [12:31] juliux: wow [12:31] that's cheap [12:31] I paid 600 EUR [12:31] it wasnt a new one [12:31] it is the one of a friend [12:31] and he never use it [12:31] well I don't care if it's new [12:33] hehe [12:33] mine has crappy wm2003 [12:33] i want linux [12:34] cbx33: which model do you have? [12:35] cbx33, flash it;) [12:35] dell x3i [12:38] http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX3 === loogaroo [n=manuel@u-124-094.adsl.univie.ac.at] has joined #edubuntu === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084F4B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:46] lucasvo, could you send that link again [12:46] cbx33: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX3 [12:47] highvoltage, did you not like the section titlesbeing questions? [12:47] cbx33: not much, to be honest. for an FAQ they would be better suited. [12:48] cbx33: for a pamphlet they don't look so nice [12:48] my apologies [12:48] cbx33: but if you feel strongly about it, i suppose we can change it back to questions [12:48] cbx33: no reason to apologise! [12:48] "i suppose" :p [12:48] i should really have asked you before just changing it. sorry from my side. [12:48] your reluctance is duly noted :p [12:49] we'll go with the new titles [12:49] highvoltage, you have experience with setting edubuntu labs in schools right? [12:50] littlepaul: you could say so [12:50] http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX3 [12:51] cbx33: will you flash it? [12:52] probably not [12:52] because it's not complete [12:52] there's no wifi [12:52] and I must have wifi [12:52] flash! flash! flash! [12:52] :p [12:52] I would but I use it too much [12:52] juliux made a draft concept for http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Edubuntu/Konzept in german. Could you fly over the text. It's in german but the contents should be readable. [12:54] !seen JaneW [12:54] janew was last seen on IRC in channel #edubuntu, 2d 21m 27s ago, saying: 'will look when I am done'. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [12:56] hey jsgotangco [12:56] hey [12:56] highvoltage, has been busy updating the docs [12:57] ive just uploaded a finished doc for About Edubuntu to be used in Yelp [12:58] nice [12:58] once i sort out with ogra on how we add it for -artwork, we'll have better stuff by next week [01:10] !seen ogra [01:10] ogra is currently on #edubuntu (21h 57m 51s) #ubuntu (21h 57m 51s) [01:11] !idle ogra [01:11] parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lucasvo === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [01:46] /w 18 [02:52] juliux, still need a bug confirming? [02:56] be back later === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084F4B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [03:42] ogra, i need your help [03:43] ogra, i want to enable sound on the thin client and set SOUND = Y in the lts.conf but it doesnt work [03:43] isnt that enough? [04:04] juliux: i'm not ogra, but that should be enough [04:05] highvoltage, but if i play a mp3 file with totem the sound output is on the server [04:05] hmmm... that sounds like a bug [04:06] i have put the lts.conf in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ [04:06] is this right? [04:06] yes [04:06] [Default] [04:06] #XSERVER = auto [04:06] #SERVER = 192.168.23.2 [04:06] XKBLAYOUT = "de" [04:06] X_COLOR_DEPTH ="16" [04:06] you should have a [default] section [04:06] SOUND =Y [04:07] this is my lts.conf [04:07] and underneat that somewhere a SOUND=Y [04:07] that looks fine [04:07] XKBLAYOUT and X_COLOR_DEPTH works but Sound not [04:07] have you tried playing sound in another app? [04:07] such as xmms, just to see what happens? [04:08] i have tried mplayer [04:08] also sound output on the server === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu [04:43] juliux, its a boolean variable ;) try SOUND=True [04:43] ogra, thanks === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-10-238-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #edubuntu [] [04:44] and make sure the apps use esd (i.e. mplayer -ao esd) [04:44] ok i will test it === ogra goes back to painting and renovation bbl [04:45] have fun [04:54] ogra: ping [04:56] i think we just missed him, zakame :) [04:56] awww [04:56] hm SOUND=true also dont works [04:57] I was just about to talk to him about the willow SoC project [04:59] highvoltage, have you tried sound on the tc? [05:16] juliux: yep, it worked fine for me [05:16] although that was still with flight 4 [05:20] hm === nomad [n=nomad@c-68-50-246-80.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=prochat1@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:11] hey everyone [06:11] hello === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:02] gooooooooooooooooooooood evening all [07:03] ping ogra highvoltage Bluekuja [07:07] ponG [07:09] hey highvoltage [07:09] do we have a vmware image yet for edubuntu? [07:09] was wondering if that might be useful too? [07:10] just finished a spelling check of the page [07:10] only about 6 errors [07:11] cbx33, hi [07:11] hi juliux did you find what you were looking for in the end? [07:11] for local devices? [07:11] hey pete :) [07:12] hi Andrea [07:12] cbx33, find it but it doesnt work [07:12] i have added more [07:12] oh [07:12] did you still want me to check out that bug juliux ? [07:13] cbx33, yes, start ubiquity step3 [07:14] i haven't thought about that. is there really a strong need for it? i suppose the live cd gives people a good chance to play with edubuntu? [07:14] cbx33, try to set the time via set time [07:14] ok [07:14] is this in ubiquity [07:14] cbx33, and then click forward what happens? [07:14] cbx33, yes [07:14] ok [07:14] highvoltage, ok [07:14] just thought that ubuntu has one [07:14] cbx33, and sound isnt working here [07:14] ok [07:14] cbx33, on the thinclients [07:14] rihgt [07:15] I can't check that one till tuesday [07:15] ok [07:15] just downloading a live cd [07:15] highvoltage, when is the next edubuntu meeting? [07:15] and do you know if the first EC meeting is planned yet? [07:15] 3 may [07:16] cbx33: i think it's wednesday, 14:00 SAST / 12:00 UTC [07:16] yep 3 may [07:16] oh, ex [07:16] erm... ec [07:16] pete [07:16] yes [07:17] yeah, sorry, bit tired here :) [07:17] i think that i can finish all apps this evening/night [07:17] ok [07:17] I'll work on rejigging the grammer [07:17] getting some more screenshots [07:17] yep perfect [07:17] okie [07:17] and tying in anything I think we've missed [07:17] ok perfect [07:18] highvoltage, get some rest :p [07:18] I was thinking, are there many edubuntu people in the UK? [07:18] i can't, i have to debianise some tuxlab stuff [07:18] it would be great if we could get edubuntu to the BETT show next year [07:18] :( [07:19] !seen ogra [07:19] ogra is currently on #edubuntu (4h 5m 37s) #ubuntu (4h 5m 37s) [07:20] it's a shame kverbos is only in spanish [07:24] juliux, just about to test the bug now [07:26] highvoltage, from your dapper doko there is now also an german versio n;) === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu [08:20] juliux: wow, nice :) [08:20] juliux: you should give me the url, then i can link to it [08:21] highvoltage, at the moment it is a draft [08:21] http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Edubuntu#head-f20b56b47278e8fae31b6e9160000e519254632c [08:22] does it have the screenshots too? [08:24] yes [08:24] this are your screenshot [08:24] s [08:26] ok, just checking before i open, otherwise it takes up all my bandwidth [08:30] ah [09:05] anyone know of a program to help in designing software, like classes etc [09:05] i found one ages ago but I can't think of what it was called === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === cbx33 [n=542deec3@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [09:53] i don't suppose there's any chance of getting scribus 1. [09:53] 1.3.3.1 in edubuntu [09:54] instead of 1.2 [09:59] dapper has 1.2.4.1 [10:00] that won't change [10:00] 1.2 isn't that great [10:25] cbx33: i'm back [10:26] are you around now? [10:29] cbx33: I only knod dbdesigner [10:29] for programming [10:29] you can design complex datastructure. === pete_ [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:30] hi B4zzA3 [10:31] hi Bluekuja === pete_ is now known as cbx33 [10:31] oi pete [10:31] oi [10:31] i had some problems with the live cd [10:32] oh [10:32] problems about? [10:32] khangman woudnt load [10:32] aww [10:32] and gcompris crashed out once [10:32] not good [10:32] i'm not having that problem [10:32] all seems to work ok [10:34] cbx33: is this on the beta cd? [10:35] yep jon [10:35] we are testing new beta [10:40] highvoltage, yes testing the very latest cd [10:40] is ogra about [10:41] i have the terminal output from khangman [10:41] gcompris only crashed once [10:41] and i couldn;t get a log of what happend [10:41] but i never manged to get khangman to load === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [10:47] hi bimberi [10:49] hi Bluekuja [10:49] hi bimberi [10:49] have you looked at changes? [10:50] hi highvoltage [10:50] i'm just looking know (hence so laggy :P) [10:51] eheh [10:52] wow - the apps list/description/scrrenshots has grown :) [10:52] yep :) [10:52] i worked on it before [10:52] s/rr/re/ [10:52] Bluekuja, has done some sterling work today [10:52] :p [10:52] also highvoltage and cbx33 have added more [10:52] pete [10:53] when i open [10:53] add/remove applications [10:53] in applications menu [10:53] yes? [10:53] it opens synaptic [10:53] in breezy was different [10:53] and also more usefull [10:53] oh [10:54] do you get the same? [10:54] not sure [10:54] i'm back on breezy now [10:55] highvoltage, bimberi [10:55] which release are you using? [10:55] Bluekuja: hm? [10:55] both [10:55] when you open / [10:55] add/remove [10:55] apps [10:55] in application menu [10:55] Bluekuja: i'm on dapper [10:56] Bluekuja: dist-upgraded, not from beta cd [10:56] ok, if you open appsmenu--> add/remove apps [10:56] what does it open? [10:58] for me it's just called "Add/Remove..." and it opens "gnome-app-install" [10:58] (i'm on a non-updated edubuntu beta) [10:58] if i click on it i get synaptic === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [10:59] hi burgundavia [11:00] hi Burgundavia [11:00] salut Bluekuja, highvoltage [11:00]