[12:00] <sharpy> when i start my laptop..ubuntu pauses for a long time to synchronize my laptop with ntp.ubuntu for my clock?? How do I disable that because i am not connected to the internet sometimes?
[12:00] <whiter> sleepy_ what window manager are you using?
[12:00] <sleepy_> gnome
[12:00] <roryy> !ubuntuguide
[12:00] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[12:00] <whiter> sleepy, what kind of graphics chip is your laptop using
[12:00] <phantez> does anybody know why ubuntu scans my FAT partition and says me lists of numbers that i couldn t understand ? pv plz
[12:00] <imbrandon> !repositories
[12:00] <Android_D> thanks to all that just helped me, it worked
[12:00] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:00] <whiter> would you happen to know the model number and such?
[12:00] <bakert> ubotu: that's really not true.  apart from java-related stuff its still very good.
[12:00] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, bakert
[12:00] <sleepy_> I'm on a desktop, and I'm using an nvidia 6600
[12:00] <whiter> ah
[12:00] <whiter> ok
[12:01] <MrNight> done bakert  & whiter I opened that list
[12:01] <x405> sleepy, what chipset did you tell it to use?
[12:01] <MrNight> what I must do now?
[12:01] <whiter> sleepy_ try reconfiguring xorg
[12:01] <phantez> hum
[12:01] <gunpowda> hey
[12:01] <sleepy_> I don't know
[12:01] <sharpy> or how do i disable certain services in Ubuntu at startup?
[12:01] <gunpowda> I'm using the virtual machine in vmware player
[12:01] <whiter> MrNight: sudo apt-get update
[12:01] <phantez> it looks like 00/55 66/33 23/45 32/65
[12:01] <bakert> MrNight: you need to uncomment (get rid of # symbol) on the universe repository
[12:01] <imbrandon> !xcfg
[12:01] <ubotu> xcfg is, like, totally, to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:01] <x405> Try telling it to use vesa.
[12:01] <whiter> MrNight: then sudo apt-get install gftp
[12:01] <alejandro> hello great to have found a place where people help with the great ubuntu
[12:01] <gunpowda> can I run stuff as root or do I need to prefix everything with sudo?
[12:02] <whiter> also sleepy_ you can try installing the nvidia drivers too, that might help, but just follow the configuration and it should be alright
[12:02] <sleepy_> I used synaptic pakage manager to install the nvidia drivers that it told me to use in the wiki
[12:02] <imbrandon> gunpowda, sudo
[12:02] <sleepy_> yeah, that's what I did
[12:02] <whiter> gunpowda, ubuntu is designed to not use root... but instead sudo
[12:02] <whiter> sleepy_ you installed the nvidia drivers?
[12:02] <bakert> gunpowda: sudo, or do sudo su and then you will be root
[12:02] <MrNight> Reading package lists... Done << right whiter ?
[12:03] <whiter> yes
[12:03] <Brainlessbob_> I use ifconfig... but it wont show me my mac address :S
[12:03] <sleepy_> I installed the ubuntu ones, but not the ones from the nvidia website
[12:03] <MrNight> Reading package lists... Done
[12:03] <bakert> BrainlessBob: where it says HWAddr
[12:03] <MrNight> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:03] <MrNight> E: Couldn't find package gftp
[12:03] <imbrandon> Brainlessbob_, its under HWaddr
[12:03] <imbrandon> in ifconfig
[12:03] <MrNight> same whiter it didnt change :(
[12:03] <whiter> sleepy_: have you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:03] <gunpowda> thanks
[12:03] <x405> You should see something like this: eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:04:76:4D:94:FA
[12:03] <whiter> MrNight, paste your sources.list to me
[12:04] <x405> The stuff followig HWaddr is your MAC address.
[12:04] <sleepy_> I can't install those because apparently the kernel isn't right, or it needs to be the same version of gcc that configured the kernel
[12:04] <sleepy_> no
[12:04] <whiter> no what?
[12:04] <Brainlessbob_> no HWaddr is shown :S
[12:04] <x405> Are you on windows?
[12:04] <bakert> Brainless: do you have anything other than lo
[12:04] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how tar.bz2 files are treated?
[12:04] <Brainlessbob_> yep
[12:04] <bakert> Brainless: any ip address other than 127.0.0.1?
[12:04] <iNiku> ifconfig -a
[12:04] <Brainlessbob_> nope
[12:05] <arrummzen> If I boot a system in a differnt distro, say using a live CD, can I install unbuntu on the disk from that live CD?
[12:05] <sleepy_> what is the framebuffer device interface?
[12:05] <Brainlessbob_> just 127.0.0.1
[12:05] <iNiku> ifconfig by default only shows the interfaces that are up
[12:05] <imbrandon> livingdaylight, liek a zip file to extract them type "tar -jxvf filename.tar.bz2"
[12:05] <bakert> Brainless: are you posting here from that machine?
[12:05] <Howitzer> livingdaylight, to unpack them, do 'tar xjvf -packagename.tar.bz2'
[12:05] <iNiku> ifconfig -a shows everything
[12:05] <bakert> arrummzen: depends on the version, with dapper yes
[12:05] <arrummzen> bakert: is that the newest?
[12:05] <sleepy_> I mean do I want to enable the kernel framebuffer device interface?
[12:05] <livingdaylight> THANK YOU guys!!!
[12:05] <Brainlessbob_> nope uses my other computer but they are besides eachother
[12:05] <MrNight> whiter,  done check ur pvt :)
[12:06] <bakert> arrumzen: kind of newer than newest if you know what i mean, it is beta
[12:06] <whiter> you never pmd me
[12:06] <whiter> try pasting here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:06] <arrummzen> bakert: ok, is there a howto?
[12:06] <Tendou> trying to understand this, if I format with lvm, will I be able to increase size of swap without formatting?
[12:06] <arrummzen> bakert: or is as simple as typeing a command?
[12:06] <gunpowda> I'm trying to mound my ipod as ext3
[12:06] <bakert> arrumzen: desktop icon i think - dead simple
[12:07] <arrummzen> bakert: what?
[12:07] <gunpowda> it auto-mounted as fat32. how can I figure out where it is in /dev ?
[12:07] <imbrandon> ipods are not ext3 i dont think, they are fat32 i think
[12:07] <arrummzen> bakert: ummm... I am running another distro, and I want to install ubuntu to a block device that distro has access to.
[12:07] <bakert> arrummzen: when you boot into live cd there is a desktop icon that says something like "install permanently"
[12:07] <imbrandon> gunpowda, type "mount" it will tell you where it mounted
[12:07] <bakert> arrumzen: ahhhh ... i misunderstood
[12:07] <arrummzen> bakert: no, no. I can't boot the ubuntu live CD, I am booted on a special live cd.
[12:07] <Kyral> iPods CANNOT be ext3
[12:07] <NiklasH_work> gunpowda: when you insert the ipod, check dmesg to see where it ends up in /dev
[12:08] <imbrandon> gunpowda, type "mount" it will tell you where it mounted
[12:08] <gunpowda> thanks
[12:08] <x405> iPods running iPod linux show up as ext3...
[12:08] <MrElendig> arrummzen: there are a wiki about installing ubuntu from another distro
[12:08] <arrummzen> bakert: for example, can I format the block device, download an ubuntu install image, and then somehow run it?
[12:08] <Kyral> x405: I meant factory default iPods :P
[12:08] <sivik_> !ati
[12:08] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:08] <scifi> hey guys just started using gFTP, it seems nice and slick, however i have to go into the menus to change directorys remotely, is there any way of adding this/shortcuts to change directories quicker ?
[12:08] <bakert> arrumzen: i'm afraid you are beyond my knowledge.
[12:08] <arrummzen> MrElendig: where might I find this?
[12:09] <MrElendig> wiki.ubuntulinux.org
[12:09] <MrNight> whiter,  what I must do now?
[12:09] <x405> You mean there's some people that don't install linux on their iPods?
[12:09] <x405> *gasp*
[12:09] <whiter> paste the url to me
[12:09] <bakert> x405: lol
[12:09] <arrummzen> MrElendig: I know that =). Whats the wiki key?
[12:09] <MrNight> bakert, I did what he told me.. same result :S
[12:09] <MrNight> then ?
[12:09] <whiter> eh
[12:10] <whiter> did you paste the url?
[12:10] <eneried_> hello people :)
[12:10] <iNiku> x405, enlighten me. why would you want to install linux on an ipod?
[12:10] <sivik_> whatca need eneried?
[12:10] <MrElendig> arrummzen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[12:10] <gunpowda> hrm
[12:10] <x405> Because...
[12:10] <eneried_> do you know a good cd-dvd-disqkette cataloger?
[12:10] <livingdaylight> is 'cat' the command for opening README file?
[12:10] <whiter> i need to see your sources.list MrNight
[12:10] <gunpowda> I get an error when trying to unmount the ipod from the gui, wrong command switch
[12:10] <wolfgang> hi, can someone tell me whats the key-combination to switch from workspace1 to workspace2 like in debian woody (alt + 1,2,3...) ?
[12:10] <gunpowda> so I can't remount :/
[12:10] <livingdaylight> cat README?
[12:10] <x405> It has no general purpose but it seems appealing.
[12:10] <NiklasH_work> livingdaylight: use less
[12:10] <iNiku> what does it offer on an ipod?
[12:10] <eneried_> something like "whereisit?"
[12:10] <bakert> livingdaylight: cat vi emacs nano
[12:10] <arrummzen> MrElendig: ok, thanks
[12:10] <bakert> livingdaylight: whichever
[12:11] <arrummzen> thank you
[12:11] <x405> You can watch a 3d spinning cube.
[12:11] <livingdaylight> NiklasH work: cat README less?
[12:11] <SAM_theman> :P
[12:11] <livingdaylight> thx bakert
[12:11] <NiklasH_work> livingdaylight: just less README
[12:11] <iNiku> um, okay.
[12:11] <MrNight> whiter I pasted in ur pvt the source.list
[12:11] <MrElendig> arrummzen: there are 3. one from srage cd, one from knoppix and one from hd with gnu/linux
[12:11] <SAM_theman> I would like to make a toast
[12:11] <bakert> livingdaylight: more, or less, are probably better - if it is long
[12:11] <scifi> hey guys just started using gFTP, it seems nice and slick, however i have to go into the menus to change directorys remotely, is there any way of adding this/shortcuts to change directories quicker ?
[12:11] <MrNight> is ur pvt whiter closed?
[12:11] <bakert> SAM: what toast?
[12:12] <SAM_theman> umm..Ubuntu is the best :P
[12:12] <SAM_theman> thats all
[12:12] <bakert> scifi: gftp annoys me, i can't remember why so i didn't use it, probably that reason
[12:12] <livingdaylight> bakert: i'm getting 'no such file or directory' ?
[12:12] <bakert> livingdaylight: are you in the same directory as the file?
[12:12] <MrElendig> SAM_theman: i think arch is better, but i do like ubuntu too
[12:12] <MrElendig> *hides*
[12:12] <wolfgang> hi, can someone tell me whats the key-combination to switch from workspace1 to workspace2 like in debian woody (alt + 1,2,3...) ?
[12:12] <bakert> livingdaylight: are you typing "cat README"?
[12:13] <eneried_> hello do you know a good cd disk catalog for ubuntu?
[12:13] <SAM_theman> My dad should be on soon'
[12:13] <bakert> wolfgang: Ctrl-Alt-cursorkey
[12:13] <scifi> hmmm anyone else ?
[12:13] <SAM_theman> hes velvit50
[12:13] <gunpowda> x405, mine didn't
[12:13] <SAM_theman> hes new to this
[12:13] <gunpowda> I used the official installer from windows though
[12:13] <wolfgang> works, thx!
[12:13] <wolfgang> cya
[12:13] <bakert> bye!
[12:13] <livingdaylight> bakert: sorry, i wasn't. I had un-tarred it and presumed i was in it, thank you...
[12:14] <bakert> livingdaylight: np
[12:14] <MrNight> whiter,  can I download any other software for ftp.. and install it ?
[12:14] <bakert> MrNight: you already have "ftp" -- commandline app
[12:14] <gymsmoke> i'm noticing on top that i've got md0_raid through md4_raid running.  I have only 1 hard disc on the system.  Do I need this running ?  if not, how can i turn it off
[12:14] <MrNight> how to use it bakert ?
[12:15] <bakert> ftp name.of.server
[12:15] <bakert> it will prompt you for username and password, put them in
[12:15] <MrNight> ok on terminal right
[12:15] <bakert> yes
[12:15] <sleepy_> ok
[12:15] <gunpowda> damn
[12:15] <bakert> the main commands are: cd to move around on the server, lcd to move around locally, put to put a file up there and get to get one down
[12:15] <sleepy_> I reconfigured x-server x.org
[12:15] <bakert> perhaps make backups before doing this for the first time with anything precious!
[12:15] <sleepy_> or whatever " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" does
[12:16] <sleepy_> so I just restart?
[12:16] <bakert> did it help?
[12:16] <imbrandon> sleepy_, yup
[12:16] <sleepy_> ok, thanks
[12:16] <eneried_> boys, where's the kde irc?
[12:16] <gunpowda> the first time I ever used a linux live cd, I came in an irc channel to ask for help and someone gave me this cryptic command, which I used. then I saw all my files being deleted, one by one
[12:16] <scifi> neone else use gFTP?
[12:16] <gunpowda> fortunately it defaulted to mounting my windows partition as read-only
[12:16] <imbrandon> eneried_, #kubuntu
[12:17] <bakert> MrNight: or you could check out the instructions on www.ubuntuguide.org to see if you can sort out your sources.list
[12:17] <eneried_> imbrandon thanks ;)
[12:17] <bakert> MrNight: then you can get a graphical ftp client
[12:17] <bakert> like gftp
[12:17] <eneried_> #kubuntu
[12:17] <sorush20> does anyone know of a software that would tell me info about the planet like distances from location to loacation and countrly stats.. ?
[12:17] <rwolf> gunpowda: What was the cryptic command?
[12:17] <bakert> sorush20 - gotta be a website .... google maps???
[12:17] <NiklasH_work> sorush20: have you tried celestia? It's more of a simulator, but the data is correct
[12:17] <MrNight> bakert,  all I need is to upload file 334 kb.. thats it :)
[12:18] <bakert> sorush20 - CIA World Factbook is A-MA-ZING for country facts - free online
[12:18] <NiklasH_work> sorush20: ah, sorry, read your question wrong...
[12:18] <bakert> MrNight: oh use ftp from terminal then
[12:18] <bakert> ftp name.of.server
[12:18] <bakert> username
[12:18] <bakert> password
[12:18] <bakert> cd to/dir
[12:18] <bakert> put /full/path/on/home/machine/file
[12:18] <bakert> and you're done
[12:18] <Jowi> is there a jail option for ssh similar to the DefaultRoot that proftpd use?
[12:19] <gymsmoke> is raid loaded as part of the base system?
[12:19] <gunpowda> rwolf, it was cryptic to me then
[12:19] <MrNight> bakert,  where is that?
[12:19] <gunpowda> I wanted to do the equivalent of del *.*
[12:19] <bakert> MrNight: Applications, Accessories, Terminal
[12:19] <gunpowda> (within a folder)
[12:19] <bakert> then type the commands in there
[12:19] <bakert> gunpowda: rm *
[12:20] <bakert> gunpowda: but be careful!
[12:20] <Howitzer> If i search for a string with the searcher on / , will it include the other mountpoints?(/media/hda*)
[12:20] <gunpowda> bakert, see a few lines above!
[12:20] <speyer> !java
[12:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:20] <scifi> neone else use gFTP?
[12:20] <Howitzer> i just use Firefox
[12:20] <OffHand> I do
[12:20] <Jowi> yeah scifi
[12:20] <mr_hus> How can I change the resolution of the bootsplash? I'd like to get it at 1280x1024? Any guide available that explains how to do this? I'm assuming it has something to do with framebuffer...
[12:20] <bakert> gunpowda, i dont understand?!
[12:21] <bakert> gunpowda to delete contents of dir do
[12:21] <bakert> cd /path/to/dir
[12:21] <scifi> Jowi: is there a better way of navigating remote directories other than going into the menus ?
[12:21] <bakert> rm *
[12:21] <bakert> or
[12:21] <rwolf> gunpowda, what was the cryptic command that you tried before?
[12:21] <bakert> rm /path/to/dir/*
[12:21] <Howitzer> mr_hus, not possible, it only supports a max res of 1024*768(or 800*600, not sure)
[12:21] <MrNight> bakert it gave me ftp>  what I must type here?
[12:22] <mr_hus> Howitzer: ok.. weird... I didn't know... Any idea how to get it to work at 1024x768 then?
[12:22] <Howitzer> ehh
[12:22] <bakert> MrNight, did you type "ftp name.of.server"
[12:22] <Howitzer> resize it?
[12:22] <bakert> MrNight and put in your username and password?
[12:22] <OffHand> does anyone use seahorse?
[12:22] <viator> vga=
[12:22] <MrNight> bakert,  yes and I used username and password
[12:22] <mr_hus> it is just a vga=xxx that I must add to menu.lst
[12:22] <MrNight> now it said . username logged in
[12:22] <bakert> MrNight: ok so do "ls"
[12:23] <OffHand> dunno scifi
[12:23] <Jowi> scifi: not really. you will have to navigate by clicking a lot or use Ctrl-U to enter a URL. if I need a more advance way of navigating or copying files i use ssh
[12:23] <bakert> MrNight and see if you are in the right place
[12:23] <zcat[1] >   FTP> help
[12:23] <bakert> MrNight: yes help is good too!
[12:23] <scifi> ssh ?
[12:23] <MrNight> 200 PORT command successful
[12:23] <MrNight> 425 Unable to build data connection: Connection refused
[12:23] <GTroy> how will a dual amd 4200 be on ubuntu?
[12:23] <zcat[1] > pasv
[12:24] <GTroy> can breezy use that power efficiently?
[12:24] <zcat[1] > give up on ftp.. use scp.
[12:24] <bakert> MrNight - interesting -- did you get an error logging in?
[12:24] <Blissex> GTroy: as efficiently as anything else...
[12:24] <mr_hus> viator: vga= what
[12:24] <MrNight> bakert,  no.
[12:24] <NiklasH_work> GTroy: just make sure to install the right kernel: SMP, 686
[12:24] <bakert> MrNight don't know what that means i'm afraid.  have you ftp-ed to this place before?
[12:25] <zcat[1] >   FTP> pas
[12:25] <MrNight> 230 User ldparty logged in.
[12:25] <GTroy> Blissex: It wouldn't be better to buy something more effective?
[12:25] <MrNight> Remote system type is UNIX.
[12:25] <MrNight> Using binary mode to transfer files.
[12:25] <karisson> i need some help
[12:25] <bakert> sounds ok
[12:25] <karisson> i've set up an ubuntu fileserver for my LAN
[12:25] <Blissex> GTroy: depends more effective for what. If you do compiles or video encoding a dual core is pretty effective.
[12:25] <MrNight> bakert,  its my first time I use terminal of the ubuntu lol
[12:25] <MrNight> :P
[12:25] <bakert> if you do "ls" are you in the right directory?
[12:25] <bakert> do you see the right things?
[12:25] <scifi> after using clients like flashfxp in windows, i really miss the browser icons allowing u to easily navigate directories
[12:25] <GTroy> gaming Blissex
[12:25] <karisson> i set up samba and everything
[12:25] <bakert> (have you ftp-ed here from windows/mac?)
[12:25] <zcat[1] > you need passive mode, otherwise it tries to make a connection back on a different port which won't work a lot of the time..
[12:25] <MrNight> no bakert  nothing :S
[12:25] <karisson> but whenever i try to access it from my windows comps, it won't log me in
[12:26] <bakert> mrnight, zcat is talking sense - try "pasv"
[12:26] <MrNight> ftp> ls
[12:26] <MrNight> 421 No Transfer Timeout (300 seconds): closing control connection.
[12:26] <MrNight>  << bakert
[12:26] <Blissex> GTroy: for gaming is is pointless.
[12:26] <GTroy> what would be a good processor for gaming?
[12:26] <bakert> mrnight - ok you have to start again - type exit to get out of ftp then start with ftp name.of.server again
[12:26] <karisson> athlon 4000+
[12:26] <GMullen> anyone know of another way to increass the resolution other then what's listed with !fixres ????
[12:26] <GTroy> my amd 1600 keeps freezing with second life
[12:26] <HymnToLife> GTroy> AMD stuff
[12:26] <bakert> only before "put" do "pasv"
[12:26] <bakert> and see if that helps
[12:26] <Blissex> GTroy: for gaming get a decent cost effective CPU like a 3500 single core and spend the rest of the money on a big NVIDIA card.
[12:27] <zcat[1] > bakert: it's passive (or pas) .. not pasv
[12:27] <bakert> you should be able to use up cursor key to go back and get old commands
[12:27] <Blissex> GTroy: an AMD 1600 is a bit slow on today's games unfortunately.
[12:27] <linuxaddicts> i'm plannin to install 5.10
[12:27] <bakert> mrnight: pas not pasv!
[12:27] <MrElendig> opterin 146 and clock
[12:27] <MrElendig> opteron
[12:27] <GTroy> Blissex: I'm finding that out
[12:27] <bakert> mrnight: zcat tells me
[12:27] <dssjon> GTory: What's your budget?
[12:27] <dssjon> Gtroy*
[12:27] <linuxaddicts> any suggestions,do's n don'ts from the experienced guys
[12:27] <MrNight> bakert, u mean pas instead of ls ?
[12:27] <Blissex> GTroy: sell the cheap 6200, get at least an AMD 3000+ (I have one and it is sufficient so far) and then a better NVIDIA card.
[12:27] <Howitzer> ehh
[12:27] <Sodium> how can I improve my DVD image quality, specially in instense motion scenes? the speed is good, but there are kind of 'horizontal lines'
[12:28] <Howitzer> linuxaddicts, it's just stable
[12:28] <MrNight> ftp> pas
[12:28] <MrNight> Passive mode on.
[12:28] <MrNight>  <<< bakert
[12:28] <Howitzer> not 6.06 or anything
[12:28] <bakert> mrnight: sorry.  not being very clear.  "ls" is a command that lists what is in a directory
[12:28] <linuxaddicts> yeah
[12:28] <GTroy> 600 dssjon
[12:28] <zcat[1] > linuxaddicts: wait a few weeks and install 6.06
[12:28] <Howitzer> no special tips needed
[12:28] <zcat[1] > It will be worth it.
[12:28] <linuxaddicts> i was using redhat all this while
[12:28] <bakert> "pas" is a command that puts you in "passive mode" which is more likely to work behind a firewall
[12:28] <linuxaddicts> so had a few questions
[12:28] <Blissex> GTroy: if you want to spend as little as possible, do as I did: a socket 754 3000+ and motherboard, and a 6800 class video card.
[12:28] <MrElendig> Sodium: are you watching dvd on your computer?
[12:28] <Jowi> Sodium: press "i" to turn on/off "interlace". that should get rid of the scanlines hopefully.
[12:28] <linuxaddicts> before installing
[12:28] <bakert> mrnight: try "put /path/to/file"
[12:28] <HymnToLife> linuxaddicts> don't : 1) use Automatix 2) Enable root access
[12:28] <MrElendig> Sodium: if so, try deinterlancing
[12:28] <Jowi> Sodium: ...implies that you use Totem of course
[12:28] <Sodium> jowi: already tried that
[12:28] <bakert> mrnight: now you are in passive mode we should have more success
[12:28] <GTroy> Blissex: do you use dual head?
[12:28] <Gyuszk> cscs all
[12:29] <MrNight> bakert,  its showing directories now
[12:29] <Sodium> yes I use totem, but deinterlace doesn't help
[12:29] <bakert> mrnight: sounds promising!
[12:29] <MrNight> I used the pas then ls bakert  :D
[12:29] <linuxaddicts> do i create / ,/root /swap partitions still?
[12:29] <Blissex> GTroy: no, I found it a bit pointless, but it is very good for graphics development.
[12:29] <speyer> !extra
[12:29] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, speyer
[12:29] <linuxaddicts> whats the default boot loader?
[12:29] <GTroy> Blissex: it's nice if you've got the room
[12:29] <speyer> !backports
[12:29] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:29] <_jason> linuxaddicts: help.ubuntu.com wiki.ubuntu.com, then ubuntuforums.org and this channel are great resources.  Other than that... I'd recommend a seperate partition for /home but just my preference
[12:29] <bakert> mrnight: so if you are in the right place (you can tell from what came up when you did ls) then do "put /path/to/file"
[12:29] <velvit50> This is a good day
[12:29] <HymnToLife> linuxaddicts> for paartitioning, I like to have /, /home and swap
[12:29] <SAM_theman> Yes it is
[12:29] <Blissex> GTroy: it is easy to have the room with LCDs -- you can get (expensive) arms that suspend two LCDs over your desk.
[12:30] <bakert> linuxaddicts: yes separate partition for home is goooood
[12:30] <coolguy662> Can anyone please help me with mounting network shares using SMB4K...??
[12:30] <bakert> saved me just this week
[12:30] <GTroy> but that's too much $$ for me Blissex
[12:30] <dssjon> Gtroy: for $550 you can buy a AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ 2.4GHz
[12:30] <MrNight> bakert.. now I'm using cd to reach the folder where I Wanna post the file :D
[12:30] <linuxaddicts> and does it have option to mount ntfs volume?
[12:30] <bakert> mrnight: great!
[12:30] <Blissex> GTroy: so stay with single monitor and a nice CPU and a very nice graphics card.
[12:30] <GTroy> dssjon: that's exactly what I was looking at
[12:30] <minerale> What is the package name for the GNU C libraries?
[12:31] <MrElendig> GTroy: get a opteron 146 and clock it :)
[12:31] <MrElendig> cheap and fast
[12:31] <MrNight> bakert now I'm in the folder.. how I must upload files ?
[12:31] <SAM_theman> Yeah my dad's on
[12:31] <bakert> mrnight: put /path/to/file
[12:31] <SAM_theman> hes velvit50
[12:31] <GTroy> MrElending: aren't opteron's better for servers than desktops?
[12:31] <NiklasH_work> minerale: libc6
[12:31] <_jason> minerale: if you install build-essential, you should get them
[12:31] <bakert> mrnight: so if it is in your home directory you could do "put /home/mrnight/myfile.ext
[12:31] <bakert> "
[12:31] <coolguy662> Can anyone please help me with mounting network shares using SMB4K...??
[12:31] <bakert> for example
[12:32] <MrElendig> GTroy: opterons are 99.9999% the same as the normal athlons
[12:32] <GTroy> Blissex: I'm addicted to dual head!!!
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> coolguy662,  whats the problem? ya need to suid the smbmount and smbumount commands eh?
[12:32] <MrElendig> the 1xx serie that is
[12:32] <Dravas> How safe is it to use the partitioner used in Ubuntu when installing it?
[12:32] <GTroy> MrEldending: what's the difference then?
[12:32] <coolguy662> yes Dr_willis i installed everything but cannt mount
[12:32] <dssjon> Dravas: do you mean the automatic partition? are you dual booting?
[12:32] <MrElendig> GTroy: they usualy have a better stepping for oc
[12:32] <GTroy> oh ok
[12:32] <MrNight> ok /home/desktop/foldername/file << like that bakert ?
[12:32] <Dravas> I wanna dual boot
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> coolguy662,  :P so ya got that message saying the smbmnt command needs to be 'suid' ?
[12:33] <coolguy662> yes
[12:33] <imbrandon> heya gnomefreak
[12:33] <dssjon> Dravas: I usually manually partition when dual booting is involved
[12:33] <gnomefreak> imhello
[12:33] <bakert> mrnight: yes
[12:33] <Dravas> oh
[12:33] <gnomefreak> imbrandon, hello
[12:33] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:33] <xbox_sky> U_U
[12:34] <bakert> mrnight: just like that, with "put " on the front (no quotes)
[12:34] <imbrandon> tab key get stuck ;)
[12:34] <linuxaddicts> atm i have already created / = 100Mb
[12:34] <imbrandon> 100mb , ouch
[12:34] <linuxaddicts> oops
[12:34] <bakert> 100MB or 100GB???
[12:34] <MrElendig> you need about 1.5gig for /
[12:34] <MrElendig> atleast
[12:34] <coolguy662> yes i got the message Dr_Willis
[12:34] <linuxaddicts> = /boot = 100mb
[12:34] <HymnToLife> at VERY least
[12:34] <linuxaddicts> = / =15gb
[12:34] <bakert> how big is your HDD?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> coolguy662,  :P you are asking a question thats in the smb4k FAQ. Lol. and its also mentioned in the SMB4k Docs (hit F1) to read the help guide in smb4k.. older doc is here --->  http://cvs.berlios.de/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/smb4k/smb4k/FAQ?rev=HEAD&only_witd_tag=HEAD&content-type=text/plain
[12:34] <linuxaddicts> swap = 3gb
[12:34] <bakert> 15GB good for /
[12:34] <imbrandon> 3gb swap , wow
[12:35] <bakert> 3GB is a lot of swap
[12:35] <viator> 3gb swap
[12:35] <viator> what for video stuff
[12:35] <linuxaddicts> 1.5gb physical ram
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> coolguy662,  the 'suid' bit is a special bit that lets those programs run as root.. needed for th mounting.. but a potential security issue.
[12:35] <coolguy662> ok thanx... just a newbie to linux
[12:35] <imbrandon> 1.5 phisical ram == no swap ;)
[12:35] <x405> 3GB of swap seems a bit overkill.
[12:35] <bakert> but who cares it is only 3GB from big total
[12:35] <HymnToLife> linuxaddicts> then you pretty much don't need any swap at all
[12:35] <SAM_theman> Listen guys i am on a AMD 3800+ X2 Dual Core and a 1GB Dual Channel Ram and a 6600GT PCI-E card with 128 megs...any questions???
[12:35] <speyer> i need xmms-wma.deb any ideea ?
[12:35] <bakert> is there any reason to make it smaller?
[12:35] <linuxaddicts> ok
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> coolguy662,  yea. its a sort of  ubuntu-security-paranoia that is  making you stumble. :P
[12:35] <MrElendig> my "normal" setup: 100mb ext2 /boot, 5gb / reiser or ext3 (dir_index), the rest goes to home with reiser or ext3 (dir_index)
[12:36] <coolguy662> but Dr_willis i cannt use Ubuntu as root
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> coolguy662,  but ive had to set  smb4k up 5+ times now.
[12:36] <linuxaddicts>  = /home how much should i give for this?
[12:36] <imbrandon> linuxaddicts, you shouldent need a swap partition with 1.5 gig of ram
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> coolguy662,  thats what 'sudo' is for
[12:36] <bakert> linuxaddicts: home as much as possible - everything that's left1
[12:36] <bakert> !
[12:36] <ubotu> bakert: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:36] <SAM_theman> failing to believe me go here
[12:36] <coolguy662> ok let me take a look at the FAQ
[12:36] <MrElendig> oh abd 1gb swap
[12:36] <SAM_theman> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=2/4917444594.png&s=x4
[12:36] <linuxaddicts> is 3gb ok?
[12:36] <coolguy662> hopefully i'll get it
[12:36] <SAM_theman> i mean
[12:36] <SAM_theman> http://www.putfile.com/sammy2005/images
[12:36] <HymnToLife> SAM_theman> I'm on a Celeron 500 with 64 MB RAM and a GeForce II MX 400, so what ?
[12:36] <MrNight> bakert,  how I can upload many files together??
[12:36] <linuxaddicts> bcoz i'll delete swap and make it /home
[12:37] <bakert> MrNight: you can use wildcards like *
[12:37] <Hexidigital_> anyone know where the grub config file resides?
[12:37] <bakert> MrNight: do you know them?
[12:37] <imbrandon> Hexidigital_,  /boot/grub
[12:37] <bakert> MrNight: or upload whole directories (i think that works)
[12:37] <Hexidigital_> thanks, imbrandon
[12:37] <MrElendig> linuxaddicts: for a normal desktop pc, use all the space you got for /home
[12:37] <ompaul> Hexidigital_, /bootn/grub/grub.lst
[12:37] <MrNight> bakert,  now I typed the path of the folder
[12:37] <MrElendig> after / and swap
[12:37] <linuxaddicts> ok
[12:37] <Hexidigital_> thanks ompaul
[12:37] <simonpca> ++
[12:37] <MrElendig> linuxaddicts: how mutch space do you have in total?
[12:37] <bakert> MrNight: careful to be at the right level before doing your "put"
[12:38] <ompaul> linuxaddicts, how big a hard drive and is it for personal (even work desktop) or some kind of professional deployment (some server)
[12:38] <sharpy> when i start my laptop..ubuntu pauses for a long time to synchronize my laptop with ntp.ubuntu for my clock?? How do I disable that because i am not connected to the internet sometimes?
[12:38] <sharpy> or how do i disable certain services in Ubuntu at startup?
[12:38] <linuxaddicts> well atm its a pc
[12:38] <linuxaddicts> with 40gb
[12:39] <speyer> is dapper the latest version ?
[12:39] <bakert> sharpy: is it under System, Administration, Time or System, Preferences, Time???  Probably not.
[12:39] <HymnToLife> speyer> dapper is beta
[12:39] <bakert> speyer: dapper is very new, not quite the official release yet
[12:39] <bakert> speyer: but you are probably ok with it.
[12:39] <speyer> bakert ok  thanks
[12:39] <bakert> speyer: to be more conservative use breezy
[12:40] <ompaul> linuxaddicts, unless you have really good reason on a disk of that size I would restrict swap to 0.5of a gig and break the disk up on a 15G / and the rest /home
[12:40] <MrElendig> linuxaddicts: 100mb ext2/3 for /boot 5gb reiser for /, 512mb swap, and the rest as reiser for /home
[12:40] <bakert> why reiser not ext3?
[12:40] <speyer> bakert yeah ... well i try to find xmms-wma and also a guide to add java plugin
[12:40] <imbrandon> linuxaddicts, /boot = 100mb , / = 10 GB , /home = the rest ( no swap with 1.5 gig ram )
[12:40] <dssjon> is there a reason to use swap when you have more than a gig of ram?
[12:40] <Hexidigital_> whoops.. i asked for the wrong thing... i'm looking for the config file for the session manager... any ideas?
[12:40] <Hexidigital_> ( i need to delete enlightenment, fluxbox, and kde )
[12:40] <ompaul> imbrandon, try creating a machine with no swap recently?
[12:40] <bakert> mrnight: how are you doing?!
[12:41] <MrElendig> dssjon: yes, for when something gets a nasty memory leak
[12:41] <linuxaddicts>  /boot = 100mb , / = 10 GB , /home = the rest this snds good
[12:41] <imbrandon> ompaul, yup, i got 3 running with no swap in the room right now
[12:41] <MrElendig> or working with insanly large images in gimp
[12:41] <Hexidigital_> imbrandon, how much physical ram?
[12:41] <linuxaddicts> however MrElendig why not ext3?
[12:41] <imbrandon> 1.2 gig ram
[12:41] <dssjon> i use photoshop for editing :)
[12:41] <ompaul> imbrandon, I got errors a version or two back
[12:41] <dssjon> gimp sucks
[12:41] <bakert> gimp is great!
[12:41] <Hexidigital_> imbrandon, are they faster than w/ swap?
[12:41] <dssjon> naw
[12:41] <ompaul> dssjon, well that is offtopic
[12:41] <dssjon> not for a full time graphic designer
[12:41] <bakert> we have a server at work with reiser that is soooo slow
[12:41] <bakert> the two may or may not be related
[12:41] <imbrandon> Hexidigital_,  no i noticed the swap never got used so i just deleted it
[12:42] <MrElendig> linuxaddicts: both ext3 and reiser is good, but if you go for ext3, then try dir_index
[12:42] <MrElendig> helps on performance
[12:42] <bakert> dir_index good for dirs with lots of files in, right?
[12:42] <bakert> something like that
[12:42] <linuxaddicts> where's dir_index?
[12:42] <Hexidigital_> imbrandon, i've got 1.5GB physical ram, and noticed the same thing... do you get errors generated at boot?
[12:42] <imbrandon> Hexidigital_,  nope , all runs smooth
[12:42] <bakert> linuxaddicts dir_index is not essential
[12:42] <bakert> you can add it later
[12:43] <Hexidigital_> imbrandon, sweet... maybe i'll tinker later :)
[12:43] <linuxaddicts> k
[12:43] <iNiku> sharpy, comment out the NTPSERVERS line in /etc/default/ntpdate if you don't want the time sync to happen
[12:43] <MrElendig> i usualy find reiser a bit more responcive than ext3 tho
[12:44] <MrElendig> reiser3.6 that is, reiser4 is to buggy atm imo
[12:44] <scifi> ok u can navigate easily in gFTP, just double-click the "UP" facing arrow, top-left of remote connection window :)
[12:44] <bakert> they made me encrypt my /home at work yesterday
[12:44] <linuxaddicts> and whats automatix?
[12:44] <Hexidigital_> MrElindig, i had nothing but problems with my ReiserFS... :(
[12:44] <sophie^> reiserfs
[12:44] <bakert> seems fine though
[12:44] <imbrandon> is there a way to convert a ext3 to reiser partition without data loss ?
[12:44] <Hexidigital_> imbrandon, no, you need to reinstall
[12:45] <bakert> i was getting 20% cpu usage untarring the backup back onto it
[12:45] <bakert> blowfish
[12:45] <MrElendig> Hexidigital_: what kind of problems? reiser3.6 shoud be rock solid
[12:45] <speyer> can anyone please tell me where can i get " xmms-wma " package from ?
[12:45] <sharpy> iNiku, it's odd. In the system settings the service is not enabled and it's not enabled to run at root. BUT looking at /etc/defaults/ntpdate it's definitely NOT commented. Commenting now.. :-)
[12:45] <gnomefreak> speyer: for wma i think you need the w32codecs
[12:46] <Godis> Someone from Sweden here?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell speyer about w32codecs
[12:46] <Hexidigital_> MrElendig, when i booted, it took a noticeably longer time for my settings to take effect.... accessing my /media/hdb2 (storage disk) took 10-15 seconds to mount
[12:46] <bakert> how do you get a reiserfs version number???
[12:46] <iNiku> sharpy, or you could just make NTPSERVERS and empty list
[12:46] <iNiku> NTPSERVERS=""
[12:46] <cafuego> imbrandon: Yes, by backing up that data and wiping the disk.
[12:46] <bakert> from a machine with reiserfs partitions (obv)
[12:47] <sharpy> iNiku, yeah... i just commented it. Just in case i want it in the future.
[12:47] <speyer> gnomefreak well i ahve essential codecs from mplayer main site that should do the trick isnt it ?
[12:47] <cafuego> bakert: 'dmesg | grep -i reiser' will probably tell you,
[12:47] <Godis> I want some help to be able to play mp3?
[12:47] <zyth> nomp3 for you!
[12:47] <bakert> nowt
[12:47] <gnomefreak> speyer: did you get the w32codecs (windows codecs) ir just reg codecs
[12:47] <zyth> !mp3
[12:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:47] <imbrandon> ubotu tell Godis about mp3
[12:48] <bakert> what does it mean when someone writes "!mp3" ?
[12:48] <viator> i just add the penguin liberation front repos
[12:48] <bakert> or "!whatever"
[12:48] <viator> to sources.list
[12:48] <viator> to gett all the good non free stuff
[12:48] <_jason> bakert: it makes ubotu talk
[12:48] <imbrandon> bakert,  it makes ubotu spit something out
[12:48] <bakert> aha!
[12:48] <speyer> gnomefreak i got the essential-codecs package from mplayer main site
[12:48] <bakert> all this crazy irc stuff.  for some reason i never got into irc.
[12:48] <gnomefreak> speyer: you _need_ the w32codecs
[12:48] <PORDO> i have an installation problem with jackd.  someone told me to compile my own version with --prefix=/usr, but now apt-get is trying to install jackd over my install.
[12:48] <Godis> Thanks =)
[12:48] <bakert> !test
[12:48] <gnomefreak> speyer: read your pm
[12:48] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[12:49] <bakert> cooool/
[12:49] <speyer> gnomefreak as much as i know essential-codecs has even more codecs then w32codecs
[12:49] <imbrandon> !ubotu
[12:49] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[12:49] <mirak> hdparm -M 128 /dev/hdc
[12:49] <mirak> the result is 0
[12:49] <mirak> this features doesn't seem to work
[12:50] <sharpy> iNiku, one last request. My desktop is empty of the icon "Home". There is only "trash" how can I make my "Home" Icon visible in KDE?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> speyer: does the essential-codecs have the w32codecs in it?
[12:50] <speyer> gnomefreak everything ... yeah
[12:50] <bakert> ubotu tell bakert about ftp
[12:50] <tony14764>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY hollyann
[12:50] <gnomefreak> !wma
[12:50] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:50] <sharpy> gnomefreak, no.. get all-codecs
[12:50] <mythicness> how would i check the version of xorg I am running?
[12:50] <viator> !plf
[12:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[12:50] <gnomefreak> sharpy: dont tell me tell speyer like ive been trying to do
[12:51] <bakert> g'night all
[12:51] <MrNight> bakert,  what is the extension of executable file and how to run it  >>> right ?  ./file. ??
[12:51] <speyer> sharpy does essential-codecs contain the w32codecs in it or not ?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> speyer: there is more than 1 codecs package and only the w32codecs have the w32codecs in it
[12:51] <cafuego> mythicness: 'dpkg -l xserver-xorg'
[12:51] <gnomefreak> speyer: no
[12:52] <scifi> whats that URL where u can browse all the ubuntu packages ?
[12:52] <speyer> gnomefreak ok .. thanks
[12:52] <cafuego> packages.ubuntu.com
[12:52] <HymnToLife> http://pakages.ubuntu.com
[12:52] <sharpy> speyer, i got all-w32 codecs from the main site.. NOT essential-codecs.
[12:52] <HymnToLife> +c
[12:52] <sharpy> speyer, so get it from the main site. Goto other codecs and the file is like 13 megs big.
[12:53] <speyer> sharpy other binary codec packages this package here ?
[12:53] <scifi> thx guys
[12:53] <sharpy> speyer, no in the main mplayer site.
[12:53] <sharpy> speyer, hold on..let me get u a link
[12:53] <speyer> sharpy yeah got it now
[12:53] <JimJty> how can I search multiple zip files for a specific file via the command line
[12:53] <Hexidigital_> anyone know how to make /mount icons on the workspace disappear? like go away... forever?
[12:53] <speyer> sharpy http://www2.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2   isnt it ?
[12:54] <speyer> sharpy  so this package here contains all the plugins i need right ?
[12:54] <sharpy> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[12:54] <sharpy> speyer, yup :-)
[12:54] <speyer> sharpy ok
[12:54] <zool2005> if i backup my system in .tgz files (root & home) can I restore them into a running system?
[12:55] <speyer> sharpy did you cp those codecs to  /usr/lib/win32 ?
[12:56] <speyer> sharpy or should i put them in " /usr/local/lib/codecs " ?
[12:56] <cafuego> Hexidigital_: `gtweakui' has a setting to change this, otherwise you'll need to use the 'Configuration Editor'.
[12:56] <sharpy> speyer, /usr/local/lib/codecs
[12:56] <speyer> sharpy thanks
[12:56] <Caminomaster> Hello
[12:56] <Hexidigital> gtweakui available in the repos?
[12:57] <sharpy> speyer, /usr/lib/win32 is deprecated but is used somewhat in olde systems.
[12:57] <sharpy> speyer, i compiled mplayer from cvs source and it works like a charm.
[12:57] <Caminomaster> Please tell me how can I do to make my Ubuntu to recognize my "serial" mouse
[12:57] <cafuego> hexidigital: yeah. Confedit: Apps > Nautilus > Desktop > [ ]  Volumes Visible
[12:58] <Hexidigital> thanks cafuego
[12:58] <sharpy> now..if i can only figure out how i can put a "Home" icon on my KDE desktop...lol
[12:58] <speyer> sharpy yeah i compile it too and works fine ... but i didnt get all codecs package ... ;)
[12:58] <sharpy> speyer, woopsie. get lame, libmad xvid
[12:58] <sharpy> !tell speyer mplayer installation
[12:59] <sharpy> !mplayer
[12:59] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[12:59] <sharpy> there...
[01:00] <Hexidigital> thanks again, cafuego, worked splendidly
[01:00] <laine> bonsoir
[01:00] <cafuego> hexidigital: *nod*
[01:00] <cafuego> hexidigital: Too bad you can't make it only not show the network locations, but leave disks like USB keys (and ipods)
[01:00] <gorski> i hear system sounds in front and amarok in background, help?
[01:01] <Hexidigital> cafuego, my jumpdrive wont show on desktop now?
[01:01] <Hexidigital> :(
[01:01] <cafuego> hexidigital: No, but it *will* show up in the Places menu.
[01:02] <Hexidigital> well... it autoran anyway... no big deal... but, yes, that would be nice to add to features
[01:02] <Hexidigital> cafuego ^^
[01:03] <zool2005> how do i restore a backup (root & home) in .tgz files to a fresh install?
[01:04] <TeamCanada|Silen> how do I find gid info for a username?
[01:04] <gorski> i hear system sounds in front and amarok in background, help?
[01:04] <Hexidigital> TeamCanada|Silen, gnome desktop?
[01:05] <matt__> herro
[01:05] <matt__> sup
[01:05] <Hexidigital> matt__, sup
[01:05] <matt__> not much
[01:06] <Mitoo> How do I make my apache server visable outside of my network?
[01:06] <Hexidigital> TeamCanada|Silen, are you on a gnome desktop?
[01:06] <mythicness> thanks cafeugo
[01:06] <Mitoo> yes
[01:06] <speyer> sharpy i still cannot play wma with xmms :) any ideea ?
[01:06] <TeamCanada|Silen> hexi, cli
[01:06] <TeamCanada|Silen> I need a command
[01:06] <raptros-v76> Mitoo: do you own the network?
[01:06] <salah> hi. does anybody have a Ubuntu 5.10 sources.list to share with me?
[01:06] <matt__> not sure
[01:06] <Mitoo> yes
[01:06] <sharpy> speyer, hmm. Hold on.
[01:07] <TeamCanada|Silen> would getent groups do it?
[01:07] <viator> !easysource
[01:07] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:07] <raptros-v76> ok, what is the setup of it
[01:07] <Hexidigital> sorry, TeamCanada|Silen, i'm not too good at command line (yet)
[01:08] <raptros-v76> Mitoo: what kind of setup is there?
[01:08] <Hexidigital> salah, why you need the list shared?
[01:08] <Mitoo> Just an ubuntu box on a small network.
[01:09] <espete> what do i need to set in fstab to allow my user rw acces to my new hdd. the partition is ext3
[01:09] <Raedr> Hello
[01:09] <salah> Hexidigital, I don't get any results with apt when I search for something
[01:09] <viator> ubotu tell salah about easysource
[01:09] <Hexidigital> salah, did you edit the config file?
[01:09] <salah> like "apt-cache search php" does not result anything
[01:09] <mjr> espete, in that case you do nothing in the fstab, simply give the user access via directory permissions
[01:09] <sharpy> speyer, try sudo apt-get install libaudio-wma-perl
[01:10] <salah> viator, yes I used that one too, don't work
[01:10] <Hexidigital> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <TeamCanada|Silen> where is the sudo file?
[01:10] <Hexidigital> salah ^^
[01:10] <espete> mjr, to the /media/usb folder?
[01:10] <viator> you copy and paste the custom generated list
[01:10] <speyer> sharpy it still doesnt
[01:11] <salah> Hexidigital, I have edited the sources.list yes
[01:11] <mjr> espete, if that's the mount point. Give the access when the filesystem is mounted. ext3 will remember it, you see
[01:11] <Hexidigital> salah, did you get the pm that viator sent you?
[01:11] <espete> mjr,  can i give him acces so he cant delte the folder?
[01:11] <sharpy> speyer, hmm...hold on.. let me try one last thing.
[01:11] <raptros-v76> Mitoo: ok, you have a router hooked to the internet? youll need to configure it to foward port 80 to the computer with apache running
[01:11] <viator> salah do a pastebin of your sources .list
[01:11] <speyer> sharpy yeah
[01:11] <viator> so we can all look it over
[01:11] <TeamCanada|Silen> how do I "execute" fstab?
[01:11] <MrElendig> mount -a
[01:12] <TeamCanada|Silen> that's only for auto
[01:12] <Hexidigital_> whoops.. forgot i remapped that hotkey :(
[01:12] <Mitoo> Ok.
[01:12] <salah> viator: http://pastebin.com/689458
[01:12] <mjr> espete, for deletion they'd need write access to /media, so yes
[01:12] <Hexidigital_> good thing i keep IRSSI running
[01:12] <Mitoo> Forward it on the router right?
[01:12] <raptros-v76> Mitoo: yes
[01:12] <MrElendig> TeamCanada|Silen: for no-auto tagged stuff, just do mount /path/to/dev
[01:13] <Mitoo> Ok, so then the box can be seen on the external ip that the router is seen at right?
[01:13] <espete> mjr, okay, thx
[01:13] <raptros-v76> Mitoo: yes
[01:13] <raptros-v76> Mitoo: do you want me to test it?
[01:13] <salah> Hexidigital_ I fixed it :)
[01:13] <Mitoo> Alright, thanks for your help raptros-v76
[01:13] <raptros-v76> sure
[01:13] <Raedr> Hello, I have a question about Dapper's graphical installer
[01:13] <salah> hei MrElendig
[01:13] <ZanT> Question: Is it "dangerous" to install the beta? or is it quite stable? -.-
[01:14] <Hexidigital> salah, :)
[01:14] <HymnToLife> ZanT> it depnds much on your hardware
[01:14] <salah> thanks anyway
[01:14] <ZanT> hmm
[01:14] <Raedr> Question: in the beta, how do I set what the partitions are mounted as
[01:14] <Hexidigital> Zant, i'm on the beta now... havet' have much trouble yet
[01:15] <ZanT> how old should my hardware at least be?
[01:15] <viator> ahhh pizzas here .....
[01:15] <MrElendig> Raedr: the installer on the live cd?
[01:15] <Cooner750> Hello. I've got no audio in Flash. Anyone know what's up?
[01:15] <Raedr> Because there doesn't seem to be any options to set my /home partition, root etc
[01:15] <sharpy> speyer, per my configuration in xmms and forums the wma plugin should be enabled. If it is I dont know what the prob is. What exactly is the error?
[01:15] <HymnToLife> Raedr> the same way you did with older versions, in /etc/fstab
[01:16] <ZanT> ah well thx
[01:16] <speyer> sharpy there is no error i just cannot add the wma file into xmms
[01:16] <ZanT> does the beta get any problems with amd64?
[01:16] <sharpy> speyer, open up a terminal and type: mplayer file.wma
[01:16] <deefzi> i get segmentation fault when i try to run xmms/mplayer, any ideas what could be wrong?
[01:16] <Raedr> HymnToLife: I want to do it in the installer. The text-installer lets me choose and rename
[01:16] <Cooner750> anyone?
[01:16] <sharpy> speyer, perhaps that will give u an indication as to what is the problem.
[01:17] <Raedr> Cooner750: what version of Ubuntu?
[01:17] <speyer> sharpy well i know works with mplayer
[01:17] <Phobetor> I have a weird problem after upgrading breezy->dapper beta: my wireless card (WEP) only works after suspend. Anyone knows what might be the cause?
[01:17] <Cooner750> Raedr: 5.10
[01:17] <speyer> sharpy there is no problem with it ... works fine
[01:17] <_jason> !dapper
[01:17] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[01:17] <TeamCanada|Silen> thanks elendig
[01:18] <sharpy> speyer, send this .wma file. I will test it here with xmms.
[01:18] <Mitoo> Not right now, thanks though.
[01:18] <milo_> buonasera!
[01:18] <milo_> a tutti!
[01:19] <Mitoo> raptros-v76:  I dont have it fully configured yet.
[01:19] <raptros-v76> Mitoo: ok
[01:20] <raptros-v76> Mitoo: when i go home, ill probably do the same thing
[01:20] <sharpy> speyer, didn't get it. Try again.
[01:21] <Raedr> The text installer always let me choose where partitions mounted under- can I do this in the graphical installer?
[01:21] <speyer> sharpy right ... i just install it from the cource .. and works
[01:21] <sharpy> speyer, good. :-)
[01:22] <shizz> has anyone installed any usb device on their Ubuntu desktop machine yet?
[01:22] <Mitoo> raptros-v76: configure your server?
[01:22] <shizz> like a flash drive
[01:23] <Raedr> All my USB drives are automatically mounted by GNOME
[01:23] <raptros-v76> Mitoo: yeah, ive got an old computer that im going to set up a webpage on
[01:23] <shizz> i have and all of the file names have turned in to wierd characters
[01:23] <Mitoo> raptros-v76: same here.
[01:23] <speyer> sharpy hm there is another little problem .. :)
[01:23] <shizz> does anyone know why?
[01:23] <raptros-v76> Mitoo: yeah, its what apache's for
[01:24] <shizz> Raedr yeah mine two and when i open the usb drive the file names are all weird
[01:24] <Mitoo> raptros-v76: I know.    What kind of router do you have?
[01:24] <speyer> sharpy i cannot turn the volume down ... usualy i just sroll down over volume control panel right ... channel is pcm how will i make the default channel front ?
[01:24] <shizz> did you install anything special
[01:24] <raptros-v76> Mitoo: linksys
[01:25] <sharpy> speyer, not sure. I use a laptop with Ubuntu. There are keys here to lower the volume.
[01:25] <CosmoDad> has anyone figured out a way to do sound multiplexing while using Skype? I've read this wrapper page but I'm not sure if it fixes the multiple-sound-streams-at-once problem
[01:25] <speyer> sharpy i see .. ok thanks man
[01:25] <iNiku> raptros-v76: are you running linux on your router?
[01:26] <gunpowda> by the way
[01:26] <gunpowda> is there any way of getting sudo/root privileges in the gui?
[01:26] <gunpowda> I'd like to drag and drop files to devices I mount rather than having to do sudo then umount or whatever
[01:27] <shizz> gunpowda i was just trying to do the same thing
[01:27] <raptros-v76> no, its just a box with firmware, and it acts as a firewall and NAT device
[01:27] <viator> gksudo
[01:27] <shizz> i have a usb device that wont accept files
[01:27] <viator> nautilus
[01:27] <holycow> gunpowda, like what devices?
[01:27] <gunpowda> usb drives, ipod
[01:27] <holycow> usb key should mount automatically
[01:27] <holycow> yeah thats bullshit
[01:27] <shizz> lol
[01:27] <holycow> those mount automatically with your perms
[01:27] <gunpowda> what's bullshit?
[01:27] <gunpowda> nono
[01:27] <monsterb> When the final release comes up in June (Dapper Drake), can I update beta2 to final....or must I reinstall??
[01:27] <holycow> you can drag and drop as you like
[01:28] <CosmoDad> gunpowda: if you allow devices to be mounted by users and hal works, you should be able to copy files
[01:28] <gunpowda> it won't let me write to them
[01:28] <holycow> reinstall your os and stop screwing around with stuff you know nothing about
[01:28] <gunpowda> I don't have the permissions
[01:28] <speyer> !sound
[01:28] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:28] <gunpowda> but I can from terminal
[01:28] <holycow> gunpowda, yes it will, you messed up your system
[01:28] <moebius_> monsterb - you can always upgrade between distro version without a reinstall
[01:28] <iNiku> raptros-v76: are you sure? :)
[01:28] <gunpowda> I'm using the VMware image
[01:28] <raptros-v76> well, not here
[01:28] <holycow> your were horsing around with fstab and shit and thought were clever and screwed it up
[01:28] <iNiku> most of the popular linksys routers are linux-based
[01:28] <monsterb> moebius_ - thanks
[01:28] <shizz> hollycow, usb us really sensitive on linux isnt it
[01:28] <gunpowda> umm, no I wasn't
[01:28] <Hexidigital> holycow, be nice... this is a help channel... not a criticize channel
[01:29] <holycow> ipods, removable drives, usb sticks, removable cdr/w drives all mount properly with your persimissions
[01:29] <moebius_> gunpowda - how do you do it from terminal exactly? with sudo?
[01:29] <gunpowda> yeah
[01:29] <holycow> if it doesn't work on wmwaver setup your vmware properly then
[01:29] <raptros-v76> iNiku: im at school right now. theres a more psychotic and evil system in place.  theres a proxy server that logs everything we do
[01:29] <shizz> good call Hexidigital
[01:29] <shizz> ;)
[01:29] <holycow> Hexidigital, people insist on banging their heads against a wall ... it hurts to watch
[01:29] <CosmoDad> has anyone figured out a way to do sound multiplexing while using Skype? I've read this wrapper page but I'm not sure if it fixes the multiple-sound-streams-at-once problem
[01:30] <gunpowda> I think you're completely misunderstanding me
[01:30] <holycow> your running ubuntu as a vmware image
[01:30] <moebius_> gunpowda - try "sudo adduser <your username> disk" to add yourself to the disk group
[01:30] <raptros-v76> holycow: when people are banging their heads against the wall, if it hurts to watch, then leave
[01:30] <raptros-v76> otherwise stfu
[01:30] <holycow> i run it under vmware and on many desktops, it works, your messing something up
[01:30] <holycow> raphael, or what?
[01:30] <holycow> lol
[01:30] <moebius_> holycow, he knows something is messed up, that's why he's here
[01:31] <holycow> raptros-v76, even
[01:31] <moebius_> so be kind to him
[01:31] <gunpowda> I can just /ignore him
[01:31] <shizz> settle down everyone  lol
[01:32] <jonguy> i am having a problem changing etc/hosts
[01:32] <iNiku> jonguy, get your sudo problem sorted out yet? :)
[01:32] <jonguy> Nah i can boot in from recovery then use vim to edit the files.
[01:32] <jonguy> i read that somewhere how do i do that
[01:33] <iNiku> anybody know a good wifi pc card that is well supported in linux?
[01:33] <jonguy> i used dsl but still couldnt get permission to change the darn thing
[01:33] <Hexidigital> well guys... gotta get ready for work
[01:33] <Hexidigital> take care
[01:33] <jonguy> even in bash mode
[01:33] <gunpowda> thanks, the adduser worked I think
[01:33] <shizz> iNiku Belkin 54g
[01:33] <iNiku> shizz, which driver does it use?
[01:34] <holycow> jonguy, you can also boot your system with a livedisk of ubuntu, knoppix or kanotix and fix it that way too ... what problem are you running into?
[01:34] <moebius_> iNiku - the ipw2200 driver is working well for my built-in wifi
[01:34] <jonguy> when i boot it recovery how do i use vim to edit the file?
[01:34] <holycow> jonguy, if you have never used vim may i recommend nano?
[01:34] <MrElendig> jonguy: vim /path/to/file
[01:34] <cobelloy> hello there everyone
[01:34] <MrElendig> 'insert' to edit
[01:34] <holycow> vim takes a bit to learn, nano has the command instructions available visually on the bottom of the terminal when you start it up
[01:34] <shizz> well it uses a windows driver so you need to get the ndiswrapper to run the windows driver in the linux env.  basically its an adapter not a wrapper
[01:34] <MrElendig> esc, then :wq to write and exit
[01:34] <MrElendig> :q! to just exit
[01:34] <cobelloy> can anyone help me set the default audio device in xine?
[01:35] <iNiku> moebius_: my thinkpad doesn't have a built-in card
[01:35] <jonguy> hmm
[01:35] <iNiku> or even the antennas... if it did, I could just add the card
[01:35] <MrElendig> an old one then?
[01:35] <iNiku> but I want to replace my old Cisco card with a g card that does wpa
[01:36] <shizz> does anyone know why i cant drag and drop file into my usb flash drive from my gnome desktop
[01:36] <jonguy> so can i use nano to change the system files in recovery
[01:36] <holycow> i wish i had my link to wireless cards for you iNiku
[01:36] <MrElendig> anything from t30 and up shoud have a dual antenna in the lid
[01:36] <holycow> *hmm* probably on wiki
[01:36] <Pluto> ThightVNC issues.. the vncviewer stay black , by some reason ~/.vnc/xstartup is not been executed. I check the /etc/vnc.conf I can't find where to specify to execute xstartup. HELP
[01:36] <iNiku> holycow, this one? http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/
[01:36] <cobelloy> does anyone know how to set the default audio device in xine?
[01:36] <iNiku> mine is a t23
[01:36] <holycow> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:37] <holycow> i was thinking this list here
[01:37] <iNiku> and it doesn't have the antennas. some t23 models do
[01:37] <iNiku> so does ndiswrapper actually work?
[01:37] <shizz> does anyone know why i cant drag and drop file into my usb flash drive from my gnome desktop
[01:38] <MrElendig> it works but it's evil
[01:38] <holycow> appearently, personally i find it cheaperr and faster to throw out bad hardware and buy fully supported hardware
[01:38] <gunpowda> shizz, try the command moebius gave above
[01:38] <gunpowda> open a terminal and type sudo adduser yourusername disk
[01:38] <iNiku> holycow, yeah, if you can find it
[01:38] <shizz> ok let me find it
[01:38] <shizz> thanks
[01:39] <shizz> oh
[01:39] <holycow> what do you mean? its all standard off the shelf stuff
[01:39] <iNiku> what is?
[01:39] <speyer> hmm is there any way i can set xchat to auto accept xdcc receive ?
[01:39] <Koharski> hey, what would the linux command be to move files in a directory one level down. For example, everything in /var/www/blah/ to /var/www/?
[01:39] <holycow> iNiku, linux supported hardware
[01:39] <cobelloy> can anyone help me set the audio device in xine please
[01:39] <MrElendig> speyer: you shoudn't
[01:39] <speyer> MrElendig i know i shouldnt ...
[01:39] <speyer> MrElendig is there anyway or not ?
[01:39] <shizz> where disk is dev/sda1  or /media/usbdisk?
[01:39] <iNiku> holycow, well, it seems to be really difficult to find a properly supported wifi card
[01:39] <Hexidigital> Koharski: mv /var/www/blah/* /var/www/[dir] 
[01:39] <gunpowda> no
[01:40] <speyer> MrElendig i could on the previos version ...
[01:40] <holycow> Koharski, sudo cp -R /var/www/blah/ /var/www/
[01:40] <gunpowda> disk is just 'disk'
[01:40] <shizz> oh
[01:40] <shizz> lol ok thanks one sec
[01:40] <LinuxJones> Koharski: mv files ..
[01:40] <holycow> you can use mv but its safer to cp, check then delete old files
[01:40] <Koharski> thanks guys
[01:40] <eod_punk> could someone give me a hand putting a copy of my kernel in /usr/source/linux
[01:40] <eod_punk> *kernel source
[01:40] <holycow> iNiku, i can find one at every staples, large electronics store or anywhere
[01:40] <holycow> just take the list i gave you and look up their inventory
[01:41] <holycow> at least one stocked product will use a supported chipset
[01:41] <holycow> you have difficulty finding supported wifi cards if you kinda settle down ona particular brand/model combination ... sure
[01:41] <jonguy> woohooo in recover mode u are set as root!
[01:41] <shizz> gunpowda didnt work im going to reboot
[01:42] <gunpowda> ah. maybe it's different for gnome
[01:42] <iNiku> holycow, the thing is, many of the supported cards are old and no longer available... also, the card vendors keep changing chipsets and stuff so you can never be really sure until you try it
[01:42] <gunpowda> that worked for me in ubuntu, have you tried googling something like adduser gnome?
[01:42] <holycow> iNiku, well clearly you are interested in arguing this point, i'm not, if you can't find it me thinking otherwise won't change your situation
[01:42] <holycow> next question?
[01:43] <cobelloy> can someone help me with xine please
[01:43] <holycow> cobelloy, question?
[01:43] <shizz> no i can thought
[01:43] <cobelloy> right
[01:43] <cobelloy> I need to set the audio device
[01:43] <LinuxJones> cobelloy: I think you need to enable advanced options or the like ?
[01:43] <holycow> i wasn't looking for an affirmation
[01:43] <holycow> lol
[01:43] <cobelloy> dont know how to do it
[01:44] <cobelloy> xine plays through my usb phone
[01:44] <shizz> but i think that i have other problems with the usb becuase all the file names in the usb window are weird characters
[01:44] <holycow> cobelloy, set it to what? it looks like you don't get sound
[01:44] <cobelloy> everything else used the soundcard
[01:44] <LinuxJones> cobelloy: Under preferences (it's been a ;long time)
[01:44] <holycow> xine plays through  your usb phone? what is that?
[01:44] <jonguy> has anyone once had a problem with certain ethernet cards in ubuntu? it registers as eth0 but does not desire to function
[01:44] <cobelloy> it is a little handset with a keypad on it
[01:44] <iNiku> heh. well. I'm not interested in arguing anything, I'm just interested in hearing which cards people have had good experiences with, as I seem to be having trouble locating a card that is a) known to work well and b) available
[01:44] <cobelloy> it is a "skype phone"
[01:45] <holycow> jonguy, usually it's either broken, or unsupported sure.
[01:45] <cobelloy> just let me look at the prefs again...
[01:45] <jonguy> ahh
[01:45] <sublime> Hi, where can I find the conkyrc file in ubuntu ?
[01:45] <sublime> I just had installed but i cant find the config file
[01:45] <iNiku> but, thanks for the list, it should help
[01:46] <sublime> conkyrc file is fron conky monitor
[01:46] <holycow> iNiku, sounds like you just want someone to talk to via irc
[01:46] <holycow> tha tlist is basically a list of cards ACTUALLY TESTED BY PEOPLE
[01:46] <Mikitoo> hello
[01:46] <holycow> see, the exact answer you were looking for, except in an organized usefull format :)
[01:46] <holycow> no worries
[01:46] <cobelloy> I have the setup window open but I cant find anything there that selects a device
[01:46] <filip> how do you change the default browser in ubuntu?
[01:46] <holycow> iNiku, and i'm buggin ya a bit :)
[01:47] <LinuxJones> holycow: system >> prefs>> prefered applications
[01:47] <iNiku> heh.
[01:47] <cobelloy> filip - system - admin-preferred apps
[01:47] <filip> in kde?
[01:47] <LinuxJones> holycow: sorry that wasn't for you
[01:47] <holycow> *nod*
[01:47] <cobelloy> there is something in control; panel for that
[01:48] <cobelloy> back to xine?
[01:48] <AnsiC> http://rafb.net/paste/results/pW1tNG95.html
[01:48] <AnsiC> This kernel .config have all support needed for boot
[01:48] <AnsiC> hda3 Primary Linux  ext2  10997,20
[01:48] <AnsiC> ???
[01:48] <cobelloy> how do I set the audio device
[01:48] <holycow> cobelloy, no it would only be under xine preferences
[01:48] <concept10> what is the metapackage to get rid of all of XFCE
[01:48] <holycow> if all your other stuff plays fine
[01:48] <cobelloy> where is that?
[01:48] <PORDO> is it problematic to have apt-get's version of jackd and my own compiled version on my system at once?
[01:48] <holycow> cobelloy, startup xine, and click on preferences ... it should be there somewhere
[01:49] <metalhedd> i'm trying to manually build my own mplayer to support AMR Audio, I tried adding the necessary configure options in debian/rules and running thta fakeroot thing, but it seems to ignore the changes I made...
[01:49] <cobelloy> there is no "preferences"
[01:49] <metalhedd> most notable --enable-xv
[01:49] <cobelloy> there is a "setup"
[01:49] <cobelloy> and I looked there like mad
[01:50] <raptros-v76> funny how setup and preferences are about the same meaning when it comes to programs
[01:50] <cobelloy> the setup is what I would describe as preferences
[01:50] <cobelloy> under audio there seems to be no choice of audio output
[01:51] <holycow> *hmmm*
[01:51] <rukuartic> Zut! I have a problem... (And this is why "sudo su" is a bad idea kids! Learn from my mistake...) I went "sudo su" and now when I open a bash shell, the starting directory is /usr/bin. How do I get it to be ~ again?
[01:51] <jonguy> is there anyway to test my ethernet card to see if its broken?
[01:51] <LinuxJones> cobelloy:  file >> configure >> Preferences
[01:51] <raptros-v76> just type in cd
[01:51] <rukuartic> jonguy: Plug it in? Look at?
[01:51] <rukuartic> jonguy: Type in "lspci" to see if it comes up
[01:51] <raptros-v76> nothing in
[01:51] <raptros-v76> else
[01:51] <cobelloy> there are all sorts of things to set like choice of OSS/ALSA etc
[01:51] <jonguy> ok
[01:51] <belkin> hi all
[01:52] <jonguy> it shows up in network settings as eth0 which is correct
[01:52] <tkup> is anyone able to view this flash page? http://howardharris.net
[01:52] <cobelloy> and device for all types of audio, 5.1, 4 channel, stereo, mono, OSS device...
[01:52] <cobelloy> I am very confused
[01:52] <holycow> cobelloy, it seems you are right, there is nothing there
[01:53] <jonguy> but i'll try the lspci as soon as i straighten this etc/hosts problem out
[01:53] <holycow> cobelloy, everything else plays fine?
[01:53] <belkin> guys i need your help . i need to add java support for my firefox browser
[01:53] <holycow> !restrictedformats
[01:53] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:53] <cobelloy> yes, everything else uses the normal speakers
[01:53] <holycow> belkin, take a look at that belking the instructions are there
[01:53] <cobelloy> even totem
[01:53] <rukuartic> jonguy: lspci just prints out the devices on your PCI ports. you should see it there.
[01:53] <eod_punk> I downloaded my kernel source to put into /usr/source/ but i can't figure out how to put it there from my desktop
[01:53] <cobelloy> it started when I first attached the usb phone
[01:53] <LinuxJones> cobelloy: do you have alsa drivers installed ?
[01:53] <cobelloy> after 1st reboot I suppose
[01:54] <cobelloy> how would I find out?
[01:54] <jonguy> im pretty positive it will register there
[01:54] <deefzi> hahah :D
[01:54] <holycow> cobelloy, your next step will be to google up all the config settings for xine and muck about its config files as best as  you can, maybe recompile it if you need to and repackage ... you may wish to check on the bug tracker as well
[01:54] <holycow> cobelloy, you got me there with that, i don't know
[01:54] <belkin> holycow yeah very funny i can bet that was an irish joke ;)
[01:54] <rukuartic> eod_punk: You need to be super user probably, try using "sudo mv /usr/source /where/ever/you/want/it" or starting your file browser with "gksudo"
[01:54] <rukuartic> Does anyone know how I can change my home directory in bash?
[01:54] <cobelloy> maybe I will just unplug the phone
[01:54] <holycow> belkin, no seriously, 99% of all questions in here can simply be looked up in the wiki
[01:55] <eod_punk> rukuartic: thanks i'll try that
[01:55] <rukuartic> (except for mine =\ )
[01:55] <cobelloy> skype sucks with linux anyway
[01:55] <minerale> where are recent documents located? ie where is the data coming from? I'd like to know where htis one file is located
[01:55] <holycow> except for rukuartic
[01:55] <holycow> lol
[01:55] <tkup> rukuartic, usermod -d /home/newdir username
[01:55] <belkin> holycow your secound answer sounds better to me :)
[01:55] <daniel_brazil> witch messangers support webcam on linux?
[01:55] <LinuxJones> cobelloy: do lsmod | grep snd (if your using alsa they should come up)
[01:55] <rukuartic> tkup: Thanks :)
[01:55] <tkup> np
[01:55] <hauindjes> ive installed the new kubuntu beta. problem is: i dont have configure installed... where can i find it?
[01:56] <tkup> rukuartic, can you do me a favor? :) can you browse http://howardharris.net and see if the flash displays on your browser?
[01:56] <LinuxJones> cobelloy: you can do alt+F2 then type gstreamer-properties
[01:56] <cobelloy> linuxjones I did that - what to look for in output
[01:56] <daniel_brazil> witch messangers support webcam on linux?
[01:56] <holycow> minerale, its probably just an entry in an excel file in .gconf or .gnome or something like that
[01:56] <rukuartic> tkup: Emmm not quite my problem. When I type "cd ~" it goes to /home/rukuartic, but when I start a new bash prompt it goes to /usr/bin
[01:56] <rukuartic> tkup: Sure
[01:56] <LinuxJones> cobelloy: does it list anything ?
[01:56] <raptros-v76> hauindjes: configure is a script in a source distribution of a program, it is nto a program in of itself
[01:56] <tkup> rukuartic, hmm interesting
[01:56] <holycow> minerale, you should look up how to use grep, and grep your home  dir for that var/xml item
[01:57] <cobelloy> lots of things - you want to see whole thing?
[01:57] <rukuartic> tkup: Roger, page loads, but the flash file doesn't start playing.
[01:57] <cobelloy> or tell me what to look for
[01:57] <raptros-v76> pasteboard it if he says yes
[01:57] <filip> how do i get firefox working with flash in an amd64 install??
[01:57] <tkup> rukuartic, yeah that's what I seeing here as well
[01:57] <cobelloy> i know
[01:57] <LinuxJones> cobelloy: no, right click te sound icon and click preferences
[01:57] <rukuartic> tkup: Sorry, I was wrong
[01:57] <cobelloy> thats why I try to look for it
[01:57] <holycow> filip, i understand that is not working
[01:57] <pragma> Hi, I'm confused about what kernel is best for my processor - it's an AMD 64X2
[01:57] <rukuartic> tkup: It just loaded. They just need a pre loader so all the information loads at once, and then starts playing. Otherwise its like streaming a movie.
[01:58] <rukuartic> Just a minute
[01:58] <holycow> has macromedia even released 64 bit flash plugin for win?
[01:58] <cobelloy> righto - now do what
[01:58] <hauindjes> raptros-v76: ahhh - nice! thx!
[01:58] <LinuxJones> pragma: you have a dual core amd64 ?
[01:58] <pragma> yes
[01:59] <jonguy> during configuring network interfaces it takes a while during bootup should that have anything to do with the net not working
[01:59] <pragma> some pple say to use a K7-smp kernel
[01:59] <LinuxJones> pragma: best to use the k7-smp kernel (stay away from the 64 bit kernel there are too many software issues)
[01:59] <filip> holycow, so i need a 32bit environment to have it working?
[01:59] <cobelloy> linuxjones - I have a prefs window for sound devs - now what
[01:59] <belkin> i cannot install java-package to built the deb file for java .. :(
[01:59] <holycow> jonguy, it really depends what you mean not working.  usually if network interface takes a long time to come up, it just can't find a dhcp server on your network
[01:59] <holycow> that however doesn't mean it doesn't work
[01:59] <LinuxJones> cobelloy: is your alsa card selected from the dropdown list ?
[01:59] <holycow> jonguy, so what exactly makesyou think its not working?
[01:59] <belkin> does anyone know where can i find java.deb ?
[01:59] <pragma> so a K8 dual core is supposed to be a double K7?
[02:00] <cobelloy> I also have multimedia system selector came up with last command gstreamer one
[02:00] <holycow> filip, yup, as far as i can remember of that topic *nod*
[02:00] <jonguy> well it does that in pppoeconf too
[02:00] <holycow> belkin, !restrictedformats
[02:00] <cobelloy> it is now yes
[02:00] <holycow> belkin, there is no java.deb, you will need to create your own using those instructions
[02:00] <rukuartic> tkup: Hey, I'm back.
[02:00] <cobelloy> I have four devices to choose from - is that normal
[02:00] <holycow> belking it takes 2 minutes really its super simple
[02:00] <LinuxJones> cobelloy: ok good now close that down and goto the gstreamer-properties dialog
[02:01] <belkin> holycow well i cannot create my own until i install  java-package
[02:01] <rukuartic> tkup: Is that your flash file?
[02:01] <holycow> yes you can, thats in the repo
[02:01] <belkin> holycow and  fakeroot
[02:01] <LinuxJones> cobelloy: where it says output select alsa then press test, you should hear a tone
[02:01] <holycow> belkin, you may need to enable multiverse or whatever
[02:01] <holycow> belkin, so? its in the repo bro, just install it like the instructions say
[02:01] <cobelloy> but I selected it for doing something with - the thing said select a device to change stuff for it
[02:01] <rike10> we
[02:02] <belkin> holycow you dont get me bro ... it cannot be found
[02:02] <rike10> hi room
[02:02] <LinuxJones> cobelloy: you probably have an onboard sound device on your motherboard and one in the pci slot
[02:02] <holycow> belkin, enable multiverse bro
[02:02] <rike10> ce sta quarke italiano?
[02:02] <holycow> its there
[02:02] <cobelloy> failed to construct pipeline for ESD
[02:02] <holycow> your not listening
[02:02] <belkin> holycow  i have all the repos enabled
[02:02] <belkin> holycow have it bro :))
[02:02] <holycow> *cough* clearly you don't
[02:02] <PORDO> can anyone help me compile qjackctl? checking for Qt library version >= 3.1.1... no; Qt 3.1.1 or greater is required
[02:02] <cobelloy> I have O/B and a USB device
[02:02] <cobelloy> no pci card
[02:02] <LinuxJones> cobelloy: select alsa then test
[02:02] <jonguy> holycow what could be wrong with my network settings?
[02:03] <pragma> LinuxLones: thx, bye
[02:03] <cobelloy> same error for alsa
[02:03] <LinuxJones> pragma: :)
[02:03] <holycow> jonguy, lots and lots of thing, before you look for a solution we need to know what exactly is the problem.  what make syou think your nic is broken?
[02:03] <holycow> jonguy, have you tried setting up network settings via gui?  how far did you get?
[02:04] <belkin> holycow E: Couldn't find package java-package you get my bro ?
[02:04] <holycow> belkin, if fo rsome reason you cannot stat the repos, you can download those files online too, search wiki for the web based package search function for ubuntu
[02:04] <cobelloy> did I mention I am still using Hoary - is that important
[02:04] <cobelloy> waiting for breezy to arrive
[02:04] <tkup> rukuartic, well not really it's not mine. but you said something about preloading the file into the browser first. Is that something doable from the code?
[02:04] <Quan-Time> for some reason, i can install xchat, as i cant do   make
[02:04] <israel> Download Firefox   http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/FireFox7.htm
[02:05] <holycow> belkin, you hosed something, all those packages are in repos, guranateed.  if they werent why would that be in the wiki?
[02:05] <rukuartic> tkup: Yeah, you'd need that.
[02:05] <holycow> belkin, no ones messing with your mind here, really
[02:05] <Quan-Time> i CANT install xchat i ment.. anyone know what im doing wrong ?
[02:05] <MMouse> hmm busy
[02:05] <r0xoR> Quan-Time, can't? is a strong word
[02:05] <tkup> rukuartic, I don't mean to bug you on this but do you know the proper google search words so I can read about this?
[02:05] <r0xoR> Quan-Time, what have you tried?
[02:05] <holycow> belkin, you can try a different repository too .. .change from us to uk or whatever one of them must have it
[02:05] <belkin> holycow i didnt says they not in the repo ... it just not working here man
[02:05] <tkup> rukuartic, by the way did your login problem go away?
[02:05] <r0xoR> Quan-Time, do you have your repos set up right?
[02:06] <holycow> belkin, *nod* i'm giving you lots of options, i hope it helps
[02:06] <r0xoR> Quan-Time, sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:06] <Madpilot> Seveas, why on earth did you just /remove yourself?
[02:06] <Quan-Time> r0xoR: i just followed the guide on the xchat page, everything was going fine, but i cant make
[02:06] <r0xoR> Quan-Time, did you install kubuntu or xubunut?
[02:06] <Quan-Time> ill try that, cheers
[02:06] <r0xoR> Quan-Time, iirc xchat comes with ubuntu by default
[02:06] <belkin> holycow yeah thanks
[02:06] <Quan-Time> ubuntu 32bit
[02:06] <r0xoR> Quan-Time, should be in the applications->internet menu
[02:06] <Quan-Time> only on amd64 version
[02:06] <holycow> Quan-Time, on what page exactly? ubuntu wiki?
[02:06] <Seveas> Madpilot, testing the bantracker
[02:06] <r0xoR> Quan-Time, uhhh i have the x86 version
[02:07] <r0xoR> Quan-Time, and xchat was in my install out of the box
[02:07] <Madpilot> Seveas, ah :P
[02:07] <r0xoR> Quan-Time, did you look in the applications menu yet?
[02:07] <r0xoR> Quan-Time, did you try "which xchat" yet?
[02:07] <slavik> yo
[02:07] <Seveas> Madpilot, and it's now confirmed to be completely functional again
[02:07] <Madpilot> r0xoR, XChat isn't in Dapper by default - that might be the problem
[02:07] <slavik> hey, Seveas
[02:07] <Quan-Time> yes, and its not there: version i have is dapper (xchat is 2.6.2)
[02:07] <slavik> use gaim
[02:07] <holycow> gnome xchat is ... if your running dapper search for gnome xchat too
[02:07] <gdh> r0xoR: 'GNOME Chat' has replaced XChat as an easier frontend...
[02:07] <r0xoR> ohhh, ok you're in dapper
[02:08] <slavik> Seveas: you know about the beagle bug in dapper?
[02:08] <r0xoR> Quan-Time, i'm on breezy
[02:08] <PORDO> checking for Qt library version >= 3.1.1... no; Qt 3.1.1 or greater is required
[02:08] <PORDO> :
[02:08] <Quan-Time> Madpilot: bingo.. .cheers. thats my issue..
[02:08] <PORDO> :(
[02:08] <gdh> althought XChat is still there if you pick it out =)
[02:08] <PORDO> i have libqt3-dev and libqt4-dev
[02:08] <cobelloy> OK - I did it
[02:08] <PORDO> wtf
[02:08] <Quan-Time> so i apt-get gnome xchat ?
[02:08] <Seveas> slavik, which of the million? ;)
[02:08] <rukuartic> Seveas: /last israel
[02:08] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, sudo apt-get install xchat (after you activate the Universe repos)
[02:08] <slavik> Seveas: the one with lots ofram and disk use
[02:08] <cobelloy> all I had to do was select the sound driver to always use ESD in xine
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[02:08] <ubotu> apt-get is probably http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[02:08] <holycow> Quan-Time, you search for it first and fine the right name
[02:08] <Seveas> slavik, again, which of the million
[02:08] <cobelloy> is there any other implications for this that I don't know about?
[02:08] <slavik> Seveas: do you know if there are any anjuta 2.0.1 debs?
[02:08] <Seveas> 
[02:09] <Seveas> slavik, no idea
[02:09] <slavik> Seveas: one where it starts indexing like mad if system is idle and then doesn't stop
[02:09] <Quan-Time> synaptic dont have xchat listed
[02:09] <slavik> Seveas: build one :P
[02:09] <jonguy> anybody had trouble with there ethernet adapter in ubuntu
[02:09] <Seveas> hehe
[02:09] <rukuartic> jonguy: who makes your ethernet adapter?
[02:09] <cobelloy> are u still there linuxjones
[02:09] <holycow> jonguy, why don't you ever answer my question tho?
[02:09] <Quan-Time> jonguy: yup, nvidia NF4.. was weird.. dunno how i fixed it tho..
[02:09] <slavik> Seveas: I tried to build it and it wanted gnome-build 0.1.3 ...latest in cvs is 0.1.2
[02:10] <rukuartic> jonguy: Open a terminal real quick, type in lspci, and /msg me the output
[02:10] <jonguy> well is an old gateway
[02:10] <cobelloy> so now how do I set the default action for DVD to xine?
[02:10] <slavik> Seveas: any way to get gstreamer 0.10 to play DVD?
[02:10] <jonguy> it registers as a lite-on communications in lspci
[02:10] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, in Dapper, you need to enable Universe to get xchat
[02:11] <cobelloy> jonguy - all my strange ethernet cards are well detected
[02:11] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Quan-Time about universe
[02:11] <holycow> cobelloy, system / prefs / preffered apps
[02:11] <Seveas> slavik, it "plays" dvd for me, but vlc works quite a lot better
[02:11] <rukuartic> jonguy: So what happens when you plug it in? Do the lights in the back come on?
[02:11] <jonguy> it must be 7 years old
[02:11] <Seveas> but maybe todays updates fixed that
[02:11] <MMouse> i have xchat working from apt-get using universe- running amd64
[02:11] <saaida> hi is there a help channel for xubuntu ?
[02:11] <Seveas> saaida, #xubuntu
[02:11] <rukuartic> saaida: #xubuntu? I think :P
[02:11] <slavik> Seveas: if I install totem-gstreamer, it doesn't play DVD :(
[02:11] <jonguy> let me check thats always a good first step
[02:11] <cobelloy> holycow, that is for browser/mail/terminal only
[02:11] <jonguy> hold on a sec
[02:11] <Quan-Time> Madpilot: cheers man ;)
[02:11] <jonguy> do all of them have lights?
[02:12] <holycow> cobelloy, oh right .... its in a weird place, / prefs / removable media
[02:12] <cobelloy> oh - I will look
[02:12] <gdh> Seveas: I love that Japanese (?) smily-character, btw :)
[02:12] <rukuartic> jonguy: Once you plug in the cable, you should get a light on your router (if you have one) and the lights by where you plugged itin (if they have the light)
[02:12] <holycow> cobelloy, yeah just looking at that, those should be in one app i think
[02:12] <jonguy> i dont think there is even a light on it btw its 7 years old
[02:12] <belkin> holycow yeah thanks
[02:12] <slavik> Seveas: any reason why my wifi won't see any networks all of the sudden?
[02:12] <shizz> has anyone ever had any luck with cd repair kits? if so which one?
[02:12] <cobelloy> yep - found it, was in pref - removable media
[02:13] <holycow> belkin, no worries
[02:13] <rukuartic> jonguy: Yep I got that... Do you have a router?
[02:13] <belkin> holycow which will allow no damage to be done to your system files and
[02:13] <belkin> still permit the Java distribution to successfully extract.
[02:13] <belkin>   thats what i get while trying to extract the bin java file
[02:13] <jonguy> well the router is locked away (stupid apartment)
[02:13] <Seveas> slavik, chip dead? radio switched off?
[02:13] <jonguy> well it could be a hub
[02:13] <rukuartic> jonguy: Oh, so you plugged the router in. Then what?
[02:13] <rukuartic> jonguy: Sorry, not router, cable. What happened after that?
[02:13] <slavik> Seveas: it is working ... everything loaded and firmware extracted
[02:14] <slavik> this happened once before ... then it startedworking later
[02:14] <jonguy> let me check real quick
[02:14] <cobelloy> just checked with a dvd - it pops up xine and now I can hear it too
[02:14] <slavik> it's weird
[02:14] <slavik> Seveas: I am using the bcm43xx module...
[02:14] <hyphenated> slavik: check the last few things in dmesg
[02:14] <Seveas> slavik, ah, never worked with that myself
[02:14] <holycow> cobelloy, cool
[02:14] <cobelloy> where is the file to alter for dma always on at boot up, I can never remember how to find it
[02:14] <MMouse> im having openoffice problems, it cant find libz.so.1 after an apt-get upgrade about 24 hours ago. libz is there, and ive reinstalled libc and openoffice- im running amd64 dapper. any suggestions?
[02:15] <holycow> !udma
[02:15] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, holycow
[02:15] <cobelloy> it is x/x/x/hdparm or something
[02:15] <holycow> cobelloy, :) time to add that to the wiki and the bot :)
[02:15] <SA-X> does anyone know of a good partition program that's free?
[02:15] <cobelloy> add what
[02:15] <Quan-Time> BRB cheers Madpilot, you helped me heaps ;)
[02:15] <cobelloy> the xine thing?
[02:15] <slavik> hmm, looks like some nvidia module gets loaded
[02:15] <filip> how do i check which version of ubuntu i have?
[02:15] <cradek> has mplayer been removed from multiverse?
[02:15] <holycow> cobelloy, hdparm thing
[02:15] <holycow> !hdparm
[02:15] <slavik> also, where do I blacklist things for udev?
[02:15] <rukuartic> SA-X: If its open source :P Check in System/Administration
[02:15] <cobelloy> oh - good idea!!
[02:16] <holycow> oh nm
[02:16] <holycow> hdparm thing is on the bot
[02:16] <holycow> look it up
[02:16] <cobelloy> what is bot?
[02:16] <SA-X> no, i got it from a CD
[02:16] <rukuartic> !bot
[02:16] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[02:16] <cradek> I installed it from multiverse on another breezy machine a while back
[02:16] <cobelloy> I know wiki?
[02:16] <Quan-Time_> ahh.. back at home in xchat... much <3
[02:16] <holycow> ubotu is a bot ... it sits on this channel and gives answers to commands
[02:16] <ubotu> holycow: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[02:16] <holycow> such as:
[02:16] <holycow> !restricteformats
[02:16] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, holycow
[02:16] <rukuartic> Bwahahaha holycow
[02:16] <jondude> well the light comes on alright i never even new there was a light on that thing
[02:16] <cobelloy> lol
[02:16] <holycow> >_<
[02:17] <cobelloy> !hdparm
[02:17] <made> how do I listen to my mp3's?
[02:17] <_jason> !mp3
[02:17] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:17] <jondude> i mean ive noticed them on those cards but never that one
[02:17] <rukuartic> jondude: Great, now try this "ifconfig"
[02:17] <Olrik> hey, how would I mount my fox linux partition? (think it's hda2)
[02:18] <Quan-Time_> i have another "issue". i use nvidia NF4 motherboard, and went to install but it complained about not having the kernel-source to compile a tree,.. can i just install it thru apt-get / synaptic ?
[02:18] <rukuartic> jondude: (you type that in the terminal)
[02:18] <daniel_brazil> amsn sucks, my webcam works fine on gnomemeeting, but amsn cant detect it
[02:18] <holycow> Olrik, first look up your partition information with sudo fdisk -L
[02:18] <jondude> hmm anything else because i have to temporairly disconnect
[02:18] <slavik> how can find out the version of a module?
[02:18] <cobelloy> OK, bot told me how to turn on dma but still dont know where the file to have it on all the time is - I will just trawl for it.
[02:18] <SA-X> !partition
[02:18] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SA-X
[02:18] <tux911> Does anyone know if ther is any good quicktime player for linux ?
[02:18] <holycow> Olrik, then i would create a folder to mount it to, and adjust /etc/fstab to mount the drive there, you will need to google up specifics for the commands fstab line info
[02:19] <cradek> has mplayer been removed from multiverse?
[02:19] <filip> how do i check whether i'm running the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[02:19] <cradek> does anyone know how to get mplayer deb packages now?
[02:19] <Olrik> cool, thanks
[02:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell cradek about mplayer
[02:19] <cobelloy> well duh, it is /etc/hdparm.conf
[02:19] <_jason> cradek: mplayer is in multiverse
[02:19] <MMouse> filip: uname -a
[02:19] <cradek> _jason: no it's not, not anymore
[02:19] <filip> Linux digirat 2.6.15-21-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Apr 21 16:43:33 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:19] <_jason> !info mplayer-386
[02:19] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3568 kB, Installed size: 8132 kB
[02:20] <_jason> cradek: still there
[02:20] <belkin> fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin  tell me " which will allow no damage to be done to your system files and still permit the Java distribution to successfully extract. " anyi deea ?
[02:20] <rukuartic> jondude: Um, you can try "sudo ifup eth0" or looking around in "networking"
[02:20] <filip> MMouse, is that 64bit?
[02:20] <jondude> ok did the if config
[02:20] <cradek> _jason: what am I doing wrong then?
[02:20] <MMouse> doesnt look like a 64bit kernel to me
[02:20] <SA-X> i have no idea how to partition this :/
[02:20] <jondude> what should i be looking at?
[02:20] <_jason> cradek: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a link please?
[02:20] <cobelloy> all right I am going now - thanks all
[02:21] <rukuartic> jondude: Ever done networking?
[02:21] <holycow> belkin, what is the question exactly?  that looks right from what i remember off the top of my head
[02:21] <cobelloy> !thanks ubot (lol)
[02:21] <ubotu> cobelloy: no worries
[02:21] <tux911> so is there an mplayer.dev downlod ?
[02:21] <jondude> yes but not with ubunutu
[02:21] <rukuartic> jondude: Should be dynamic IP address (dhcp)
[02:21] <holycow> belkin, it may just be giving you a heads up
[02:21] <rukuartic> cobelloy: You say !botsnack
[02:21] <dmbt> hey quick question
[02:21] <_jason> tux911: what do you mean?
[02:21] <cobelloy> !botsnack
[02:21] <ubotu> thanks cobelloy :)
[02:21] <dmbt> is there a way for ubuntu to automatically reconfigure fstab
[02:21] <dmbt> ?
[02:21] <dmbt> without use editing it manuelly?
[02:21] <cobelloy> thats funny
[02:22] <dmbt> so its back to the same position in installation?
[02:22] <_jason> !enter
[02:22] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[02:22] <cradek> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13099
[02:22] <belkin> holycow i ry to install java ... so i have to create the deb package but fakeroot make-jpkg  comes out with an error " which will allow no damage to be done to your system files and still permit the Java distribution to successfully extract. Abort "
[02:22] <dmbt> sry
[02:22] <belkin> holycow hell yeah
[02:22] <sEbaKiLLeR> hi
[02:22] <tux911> jason umm is ther an down that is a dev format for Mplayer
[02:22] <holycow> belkin, *hmm*
[02:23] <holycow> !java
[02:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:23] <cradek> _jason: I'm an idiot, sorry, forget it
[02:23] <matias> hi (h)
[02:23] <jondude> eth0 already configured
[02:23] <_jason> cradek: you see you only have backports multiverse right? np :P
[02:23] <_jason> tux911: I don't understand what that means
[02:23] <cradek> _jason: I could have sworn on my other machine I only had to uncomment things, but on this one I had to add the multiverse lines
[02:23] <holycow> belkin, i am not certain how to get around that error, i have never actually seen that before
[02:23] <SA-X> how do i make a partition? the help thing didn't really help. :/
[02:23] <jondude> i did bot see an ip uder ifconfig
[02:24] <rukuartic> jondude: Open up a terminal (alt+f2, type in "gnome-terminal") and type in "ifconfig" to see what your network interfaces are
[02:24] <cradek> _jason: but obviously I must remember wrong
[02:24] <rukuartic> jondude: So whats the problem? No internet?
[02:24] <jondude> actaully 127.0.0.1
[02:24] <holycow> you did what the instructions said  so ... weird, not sure sorry mate, at least you got this far maybe someone else knows
[02:24] <_jason> cradek: since breezy it's been like that.  That's a common problem here actually, people just uncomment
[02:24] <jondude> yep
[02:24] <_jason> cradek: (it may have been like that before too but I don't recall)
[02:24] <sEbaKiLLeR> anyone has a httpd.conf to give me?
[02:24] <tux911> Jason Like can i download Mplayer in an dev file
[02:24] <rukuartic> jondude: Thats your computer's address. Its always going to be that. You probably want it to be 192.168.1.XXX or 10.8.1.XXX
[02:24] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: why would you need one?
[02:24] <tux911> or jsut the sources sode
[02:25] <jondude> that address was under lo insteads of eth0
[02:25] <_jason> tux911: what do you mean by ``dev file''?
[02:25] <rukuartic> jondude: What does ifconfig say about eth0?
[02:25] <_jason> tux911: apt-get source mplayer-386, will give you the source in the directory you issue that command from
[02:25] <cradek> _jason: it's embarassing, I'm not a newbie :-)
[02:25] <jondude> eth0 did not find a ip
[02:25] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason because i make a mistake and i cant recover it
[02:25] <rukuartic> jondude: Can you /msg me what ifconfig says?
[02:25] <tux911> jason ahh ok
[02:26] <holycow> rukuartic, lol, people have been trying to get him to answer that question for the last half hour
[02:26] <holycow> :)
[02:26] <holycow> i don't think he knows how to msg people or run commands, but doesn't want to admit it :)
[02:26] <slavik> how do I blacklist a module for udev?
[02:26] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: maybe you can delete/rename the file and reinstall the package?
[02:26] <jondude> i think but im not registered to this network and it said something about u have to registered to pm
[02:26] <holycow> jondude, if you need further help with specific commands just say so
[02:26] <rukuartic> Oh...
[02:26] <SA-X> _jason i don't know how to make a seperate partition, could you please help me?
[02:26] <jondude> thanks
[02:26] <rukuartic> jondude: Put it up on www.pastebin.com
[02:27] <_jason> SA-X: for installing?
[02:27] <SA-X> yes
[02:27] <rukuartic> jondude: Oh, you have to go? Well... good luck. Someone'll be here to help ya out...
[02:27] <_jason> SA-X: are you going to dual boot or is ubuntu going to be the only thing on the drive?
[02:27] <Olrik> okay. its mounted
[02:27] <Olrik> thanks guys :)
[02:27] <SA-X> _jason: dual boot
[02:27] <linux_galore> :-)
[02:28] <jondude> uhm not quite yet i was saying thanks to holycow
[02:28] <slavik> _jason: how do I blacklist a module for udev?
[02:28] <_jason> SA-X: do you have free unpartitioned space to create a partition?
[02:28] <_jason> slavik: I don't know
[02:28] <SA-X> _jason: i'm not for sure
[02:28] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason but that mistake was because i dont know to configure that part
[02:28] <slavik> p00p
[02:28] <dmbt> is there a way to have /etc/fstab regenerated after install?
[02:28] <holycow> slackern, /etc/blacklist ... add it to that file
[02:29] <filip> when i try to install flashplugin-nonfree, it keeps on getting stuck on "Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.63.3ubuntu1) ...
[02:29] <filip> " and won't move on
[02:29] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: what part?
[02:29] <holycow> slackern, that was for slavik
[02:29] <holycow> sorry
[02:29] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason a lot!
[02:29] <holycow> filip, thats because the file doesn't exist on macromedias ftp
[02:29] <x405> Ugg. I just did a ubuntu install...
[02:29] <holycow> filip, its been gone for quite a while from what i can tell, you cant even go to their website and download
[02:29] <filip> so how do i install it?
[02:30] <holycow> filip, not sure if they just made a mistake or what
[02:30] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: did you try to see if deleting/renaming your current file and reinstalling the package gives you a fresh one?
[02:30] <holycow> filip, good question, i'm trying to find the binary my self :)
[02:30] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason yes
[02:30] <_jason> SA-X: what do you have now? windows?
[02:30] <jondude> rukuartic ive got to type all this stuff since im on a diff computer hold up a sec
[02:30] <SA-X> _jason: yes
[02:30] <GTroy> sorry to ask again....what's the best box for games & dual head setup?
[02:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell SA-X about dualboot
[02:30] <GTroy> under $600
[02:30] <deefzi> does anyone know what's the system default font size and where can i change it? is it the "application font size" on the font menu?
[02:30] <slavik> whoever answered to me, happens to be /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ...
[02:30] <holycow> filip, now you see firsthand why PROPRIETARY code is bad.  in cases like this there isn't anything you can do really
[02:30] <slavik> for future :)
[02:30] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason but i dont know why the deafault one doesnt work with my changes
[02:30] <filip> holycow, any other way of getting flash running in firefox?
[02:30] <x405> The display isn't working, I know  the display works on the live-cd if I tell it to use vesa, but I wasn't given a chance to choose the chipset eve though I specified expert. Anyone have a clue how I can fix it?
[02:30] <holycow> except beg adobe which doesn't give a dip about open source, or hope like hell someone has mirrored it
[02:31] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: are you using apache or apache2?
[02:31] <holycow> filip, well there are a few open source implementations, all of them are very buggy
[02:31] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason apache2
[02:31] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: apache uses /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:31] <filip> holycow, my firefox just constantly keeps on freezing
[02:31] <rukuartic> jondude: Oh ouch dude. =\
[02:31] <SA-X> _jason: thanks
[02:31] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason thats my dude!
[02:32] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason httpd.conf?
[02:32] <saaida> guys anyone in here mind help me with playing mp3 in mu xubuntu with xfmedia  ? for some reason it is not working
[02:32] <doms> paatik man mo uy mga paknuh
[02:32] <rukuartic> sEbaKiLLeR: If you want apache up quick, just install XAMPP
[02:32] <holycow> filip, generally for that sort of thing you MOVE your preferences file and restart ffox
[02:32] <sEbaKiLLeR> nukuartic preconfigured ?
[02:32] <holycow> filip, move .mozilla to somewhere else and restart ff, that usually resolves the issue, its usually a configuration or a bad extension
[02:33] <linux_galore> saaida: you need to install the mp3 package
[02:33] <rukuartic> sEbaKiLLeR: Its as easy as extracting a zip file
[02:33] <Harti> crimsun: ping
[02:33] <rukuartic> sEbaKiLLeR: Comes with Php/MySQL/FTP/Webalizer and a whole lot of other stuff
[02:33] <saaida> linux_galore: what it is called ?
[02:33] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: this is what my files look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13100 and I'll have the bot send you the LAMP guide
[02:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell sEbaKiLLeR about lamp
[02:34] <dmbt> is there a way to regenerate /etc/fstab after installation, because my partition numbers changed?
[02:34] <linux_galore> saaida: mp3 isnt a free format its actually owned by Thomson
[02:34] <sn9> hello. i seem to have thoroughly hosed gnome-volume-manager somehow. any tips?
[02:34] <jorge_> hola alguien habla espaol
[02:34] <gunpowda> meh
[02:34] <bth_> how can i get rsyncd running on ubuntu?
[02:34] <slavik> thomson makes crappy dvd drives
[02:34] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason linux apache mysql php,perl,python
[02:34] <gunpowda> how can I get permission to write to my mounted drive via the gui without having to keep using sudo and terminal?
[02:34] <crimsun> Harti: pong
[02:35] <crimsun> Harti: give me a second to finalise some alsa-lib changes. It should take about 5 minutes.
[02:35] <rukuartic> sEbaKiLLeR: Also, you could try looking into apachetoolbox if you want a little more challenging setup
[02:35] <slavik> gunpowda: gksudo
[02:35] <Harti> crimsun: ok
[02:35] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason i know about that but my dude is httpd.conf or apache2.conf or both?
[02:35] <slavik> !gksudo
[02:35] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[02:35] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: apache2.conf, httpd.conf is all comments here
[02:35] <gunpowda> gksudo sounds like a command line thing though?
[02:35] <saaida> linux_galore : so this mean i can't play mp3 over linux ?
[02:35] <jondude> im posting it as johndude i noticed that the tx had 14 errors
[02:35] <slavik> gunpowda: ALT+F2
[02:36] <linux_galore> saaida: yes if you install the package http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/virtual/mp3-decoder
[02:36] <jorge_> alcomo coloco mp3 en ubumtu
[02:36] <Howitzer> !tell saaida about restricted formats
[02:36] <anilkumar> hi
[02:36] <jorge_> alguien habla espaol
[02:36] <r0xoR> hey
[02:36] <rukuartic> jorge_: #ubuntu-es
[02:36] <rukuartic> !es
[02:36] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:36] <jorge_> gracias
[02:37] <anilkumar> how can i know my port is behind NAT-enabled router
[02:37] <slavik> de nada :P
[02:37] <strafe> hping
[02:37] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason do u use both?
[02:37] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason because i used apache and i just used httpd.conf
[02:37] <doms> _________________-
[02:37] <gunpowda> gksudo nautilius?
[02:37] <gunpowda> not working :/
[02:37] <jorge_> aqui hay alguna sala o sitio para hablar espaol en este chat
[02:37] <doms> working
[02:38] <jmg> jonguy: describe your problem
[02:38] <strafe> anilkumar: hping
[02:38] <jondude> http://pastebin.com/689576
[02:38] <doms> blah
[02:38] <jorge_> ??
[02:39] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason ?
[02:39] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: I just use apache2.conf
[02:39] <belkin> heh none of you guys told me the easy way to get java plugin installed . its just a simple as "   sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 " thats all :)
[02:39] <linux_galore> saaida: the other trick is to use the easyubuntu script and this will install the the missing codecs etc ->http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:39] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: read the comments in the files I pasted
[02:40] <sEbaKiLLeR> _jason thanks , i learnt a pdf
[02:40] <jondude> the internet is not working
[02:40] <brokengun> hey, does anyone know the command that tells you what your computer is doing at that moment?
[02:40] <saaida> linux_galore : i guess i may just give up and chose another player
[02:40] <brokengun> like what directories it's looking at, stuff like that
[02:40] <sn9> brokengun: lsof
[02:40] <bth_> Hello, how can I have an rsync daemon start on system startup?
[02:40] <brokengun> it has something like "f_usage" or something
[02:40] <linux_galore> saik0: the player makes no difference they all use the same libs
[02:41] <rukuartic> anilkumar: Ok, open a terminal and type "ifconfig"
[02:41] <brokengun> im on a mac, so maybe it's different
[02:41] <brokengun> isof?
[02:41] <brokengun> k
[02:41] <sn9> brokengun: that's an L
[02:41] <rukuartic> anilkumar: If your IP address for eth0 or wlan0 is something like 192.168.XXX.XXX or 10.8.XXX.XXX you're behind a nat
[02:41] <brokengun> sn9:didn't work
[02:41] <Wolvenhaven> hey
[02:41] <saik0> linux_galore, ???
[02:41] <linux_galore> saaida: the player makes no difference, just use xmms
[02:41] <brokengun> oh
[02:41] <rukuartic> anilkumar: If you go to http://www.ipchicken.com and the IP address is the same as your eth0/wlan0, you're directly connected to the internet
[02:41] <slavik> quoth the server, nevermore
[02:41] <brokengun> woah...
[02:41] <brokengun> thanks
[02:42] <linux_galore> saaida: xmms, or beep media media player (BMP) are the same as winamp
[02:42] <slavik> no wait
[02:42] <anilkumar> rukuartic :ok
[02:42] <slavik> quoth the server 404
[02:42] <saaida> linux_galore : which is lighter on system resources  ?
[02:42] <jonguy> ok im back once again
[02:42] <Wolvenhaven> my friend just told me that debian software wont run on some hardware, ive got an evga board, amd cpu, and corsair ram, i keep getting a "failed to load initial console" and "kernel panic" everytime i try to install ubuntu
[02:42] <linux_galore> saaida: even use winamp skins
[02:42] <rukuartic> saaida: "mocp" :P
[02:42] <jonguy> i found another ethernet cord so i could have them both connected
[02:42] <linux_galore> saaida: there both about the same, xmms is a but more mature
[02:43] <jonguy> rukuartic did the post help out?
[02:43] <rukuartic> Wolvenhaven: Wow, thats one unique problem... Where does that happen? It might help your question get answered... I don't think I can help there
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> Wolvenhaven,  i would guess a badly burnt cd.. vs some odd hardware incompatability
[02:43] <rukuartic> jonguy: Where'd you put it?
[02:43] <linux_galore> saaida: also learn to use your package manager your using Linux like Windows for software, totally wrong
[02:43] <sn9> Wolvenhaven: does the livecd do the same thing?
[02:43] <Wolvenhaven> willis ive tried multi burned iso's
[02:43] <Wolvenhaven> i havent tried the live cd, i only dl'd the install
[02:43] <jonguy> http://pastebin.com/689576
[02:43] <saaida> linux_galore: gonna try em both then remove one of them , thanx very much for the help
[02:43] <romulo> hi, theres any app that i can run and check for bad blocks on disk?
[02:43] <rukuartic> Wolvenhaven: Try unplugging almost all of your hardware, and then plugging it back in once/if you get it installed
[02:44] <x405> Can anyone tell me how I can change what graphics chipset ubuntu is using for an installation? I ran an expert install and I wasn't asked, the chipset ubuntu picks results in the display being unreadable.
[02:44] <linux_galore> saaida: xmms and BMP are both on the repositories
[02:44] <sn9> x405: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:44] <Wolvenhaven> rukuartic: how would i do that, remove what?
[02:44] <rukuartic> jonguy: Reading
[02:44] <linux_galore> saaida: but your still going to have to have the mpg123 stuff installed
[02:44] <x405> sn9: Like I said, I can't read the display.
[02:44] <saaida> linux_galore: yeah but the package manager is full of alternatives and choises and alone can't decide which one
[02:44] <rukuartic> Wolvenhaven: Shut down your box, open it up, and remove unneccessary hardware (sound card, networking, etc etc) try a liveCD first
[02:45] <linux_galore> saaida: you can always ask
[02:45] <saaida> linux_galore:i got mpg123 installed
[02:45] <x405> Ah...wait...duh...virtual console.
[02:45] <Wolvenhaven> ack
[02:45] <sn9> x405: can you log in if you ctrl-alt-F2?
[02:45] <x405> Let me checked, I just remembered.
[02:45] <Wolvenhaven> lol, removing all that stuff is a pain, do i need to remove my dvd, floppy too?
[02:46] <rukuartic> jonguy: Hmm thats weird. You seem to not be connected to a network...
[02:46] <jonman> sorry about that keep having trouble with the my laptop's wireless connection with a neighbor freind lol
[02:46] <rukuartic> jonman: You're jonguy?
[02:46] <jonman> yes
[02:46] <rukuartic> jonman: Ok
[02:46] <sn9> Wolvenhaven: i would bet the evga has something to do with your problem
[02:47] <jonman> and jondude also
[02:47] <saaida> linux_galore: BMP is working thanx again . it seems that xfmedia is kinda had the problem
[02:47] <rukuartic> haha
[02:47] <Wolvenhaven> its an sli board
[02:47] <jonman> got disconnected but my other name was still in use
[02:47] <Wolvenhaven> would that do it?
[02:47] <rukuartic> jonman: Your ethernet card might be bad. It apparently has no network connections
[02:47] <x405> Virtual console doesn't work.
[02:47] <x405> Fuzzed out as well.
[02:47] <jonman> could it just be some driver issue?
[02:48] <linux_galore> saaida: Ive never used xfmedia, but bmp and xmms always work
[02:48] <gunpowda> how can I move a folder and force overwrite?
[02:48] <gunpowda> -f doesn't work
[02:48] <Wolvenhaven> copy the file
[02:48] <doms> creative labs webcamera were i can download a driver for my usb webcamera
[02:48] <Wolvenhaven> delete the otherone
[02:48] <gunpowda> I wish I could get the gui working
[02:48] <saaida> linux_galore: have u used xfce ?
[02:48] <sn9> x405: try booting with init=/bin/bash to rule things out
[02:48] <rukuartic> jonman: http://www.pastebin.com The latest post by me is what mine looks like
[02:49] <linux_galore> saaida: yes but only as remote basic terminal
[02:49] <x405> sn9: Thanks. How would I go about doing that?
[02:49] <Wolvenhaven> sn9: everyone i know has an evga mobo and they dont have a problem with linux, would the fact its sli be a problem?
[02:49] <doms> creative labs webcamera were i can download a driver for my usb webcamera
[02:49] <jonman> i see
[02:49] <sn9> x405: using grub? hit 'e' twice, add that text, enter, 'b'
[02:50] <linux_galore> doms:  whats the model, and Linux has the drivers built in
[02:50] <doms> spcaxxx
[02:50] <doms> v4l
[02:50] <tiago> ola
[02:50] <doms> in my synaptic
[02:50] <tiago> =D
[02:50] <doms> and also pwc
[02:51] <Ademan> can i only have one partition marked as primary with ubuntu?
[02:51] <sn9> Wolvenhaven: i'd have to see it first hand to have a better idea
[02:51] <Ademan> well.. i guess in general as well
[02:51] <tiago> somebody from brazil?
[02:51] <vimusa> Hi, does anyone knows where lan drivers are configured for loading during startup?
[02:51] <doms> dchp
[02:51] <doms> creative labs webcamera were i can download a driver for my usb webcamera
[02:52] <Wolvenhaven> sn9:it checks my ethernet, something else, then there is a whole lot of what apears to be it scanning my ram, then it start yelling about the failed initial console, and then about the kernel panic
[02:52] <linux_galore> doms:  your not reading, YOU DONT NEED ANY DRIVERS
[02:52] <rukuartic> Wolvenhaven: Try running the MemTest app
[02:52] <Wolvenhaven> which is?
[02:52] <linux_galore> dom you just have to set it up
[02:52] <rukuartic> Wolvenhaven: Your ram might be shot...
[02:52] <doms> what should i do
[02:52] <Wolvenhaven> my ram is fine
[02:52] <sn9> Wolvenhaven: i mean i'd have to see the board
[02:52] <linux_galore> dom ok what model is it
[02:52] <Wolvenhaven> ah
[02:52] <rukuartic> Wolvenhaven: Its an operation when you boot from the CD I think... Just try it.
[02:52] <rukuartic> Wolvenhaven: If thats when it crashes? it could be your ram.
[02:52] <Wolvenhaven> ruk: im on the computer right now
[02:52] <shao_lo> can anyone help me with a dchroot problem?
[02:52] <sharpy> how do i install an applet that monitors my network/cpu/mem ? I dont have such applets in kubuntu?
[02:53] <doms> linuz_galore pls. help how to configure my webcamera
[02:53] <Wolvenhaven> im trying to dualboot ubuntu
[02:53] <rukuartic> sharpy: gkrellm
[02:53] <Ademan> what's a reasonable swap partition size?
[02:53] <rukuartic> sharpy: "sudo apt-get install gkrellm"
[02:53] <StraFE> Wolvenhaven, install windows first then ubuntu
[02:53] <linux_galore> dom I cant help you if you dont answer the question
[02:53] <Madpilot> Wolvenhaven, restart ubuntu - hit ESC when the grub menu comes up during boot - one of the grub menu options is MemTest96+
[02:53] <Wolvenhaven> ugh
[02:53] <rukuartic> Ademan: Depends what you're doing. I have 1 gigabyte.
[02:53] <sn9> doms: most available wecam drivers are included, but configuartion can be a real pain
[02:53] <rukuartic> Madpilot: He can't even get it installed.
[02:53] <vimusa> *
[02:53] <sharpy> rukuartic, i tried that but it's too BIG. i would like something that just sits on my main bar.
[02:53] <doms> yeah thats what i need how to confire my webcamera
[02:53] <Madpilot> Ademan, I've got 1Gb of RAM, and no swap at all - I rarely max out my RAM, even
[02:53] <Ademan> just general usage
[02:53] <Wolvenhaven> i am currently on the computer im trying to install it on, i am running windowsXP, i am trying to install ubuntu on my second drive so i can dual boot, the ram is fine
[02:54] <doms> i installed my linux headers
[02:54] <Ademan> i've got 2 gigs of ram
[02:54] <Ademan> no need for swap at all?
[02:54] <Madpilot> Ademan, then don't worry about swap ;)
[02:54] <Ademan> ;p;
[02:54] <Ademan> o
[02:54] <Ademan> i'll just do a gig
[02:54] <Ademan> to be safe
[02:54] <doms> huh pls entertain
[02:54] <doms> how do i configure my web camera
[02:54] <sn9> Wolvenhaven: is it the installed system that panics or the installer?
[02:54] <minerale> How can I play quicktime movies? (I have mplayer, but firefox does not seem to recognise it)
[02:55] <Wolvenhaven> the installer
[02:55] <sn9> minerale: mozilla-mplayer
[02:55] <Wolvenhaven> it doesnt even get to installing
[02:55] <Wolvenhaven> it is doing some prelim load
[02:55] <Madpilot> minerale, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:55] <doms> how do i configure my web camera  any additional command lines of edit or packages...
[02:55] <minerale> thanks sn9
[02:55] <doms> how do i configure my web camera  any additional command lines of edit or packages...
[02:55] <sharpy> sn9, if i try to install mozilla-mplayer then apt-get also install mplayer-386 (I dont want mplayer-386)
[02:55] <linux_galore> doms: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:56] <sn9> sharpy: then install mplayer-686 or mplayer-k7 first
[02:56] <anilkumar> hi
[02:56] <sharpy> sn9, i did.
[02:56] <sn9> sharpy: it shouldn't do that then
[02:56] <monsterb> ! /home
[02:56] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, monsterb
[02:57] <shao_lo> can anyone help me with a dchroot problem?
[02:57] <StraFE> i'm a CLI guy, installed ubuntu, what's the best font to use for firefox on a 1600x1200 display?
[02:57] <anilkumar> when i started an PPPoA dialer i got an error u do not have root user privileges
[02:57] <linux_galore> sharpy: your doing it the hard way
[02:57] <StraFE> everything is so tiny
[02:57] <anilkumar> how can i fix it
[02:57] <doms> it required some modules to work my webcamera how do load that modules
[02:57] <doms> it required some modules to work my webcamera how do load that modules
[02:57] <crimsun> Harti: ok, back
[02:57] <sn9> doms: do you know which ones?
[02:57] <Wolvenhaven> sn9: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813188002 thats the board
[02:57] <monsterb> I have a 160GB HD - I want /home and / on their own partitions - Should I split HD into 2 equal partitions ??
[02:58] <Harti> crimsun: ok
[02:58] <doms> yes exactly
[02:58] <linux_galore> sharpy: open firefox  Tools-> Extensions  click on  "get more extensions"  then search for "Media Player Connectivity"
[02:58] <sethk> monsterb, why do you want separate partitions?
[02:58] <crimsun> Harti: do you have alsa-oss from universe installed?
[02:58] <sethk> monsterb, gives up flexibility, and gains you nothing
[02:58] <Harti> criminy: yes
[02:58] <Harti> crimsun: yes
[02:58] <anilkumar> how can i login as root
[02:58] <doms> Creative Labs Webcam Plus (Model PD0040)
[02:58] <crimsun> Harti: so leave the setting at 'none', and invoke ``aoss firefox''
[02:58] <sethk> anilkumar, you can set the root password, but using sudo -i is recommended instead
[02:59] <gdh> doms: A lot of the newer 'Plus' cameras don't have a linux driver as yet.
[02:59] <doms> You have to manually load some modules to make it work.
[02:59] <[A] ndy80> how can I convert a .3gp video to avi or mpeg?
[02:59] <gdh> doms: I have a pair of 'Live Plus!' things that I gave up on. It's the nature of the beast alas :/
[02:59] <doms> my cemera is not newer
[02:59] <monsterb> sethk, if it gains nothing nothing - i won't do it :) thx
[02:59] <LinuxJones> monsterb: I usually create 4 partitions 100 meg /boot/  10 gig /  1 gig /swap remainder for /home
[02:59] <gdh> Our older Creative 4000 ones work fine..
[02:59] <doms> older on that
[02:59] <viator> intel cam works
[02:59] <rukuartic> [A] ndy80: Thats a good question. :P Tell me if you find out... I think there might be a few things on sourceforge
[03:00] <rukuartic> anilkumar: You can't. But try "sudo -i"
[03:00] <gdh> doms: no idea then - that's as far as my knowledge ont he matter extends =)
[03:00] <sharpy> how do I install a network/memory/cpu applet? that sits on my mainbar (where all all the docked applets are)
[03:00] <sharpy> no gkrellm please.
[03:00] <sethk> anilkumar, it isn't true that you can't.  you certainly can.  however, sudo -i is considered less risky
[03:00] <rukuartic> sharpy: Try gdesklets (I think thats it)
[03:00] <rukuartic> sharpy: Don't like gkrellm?
[03:00] <noiesmo> can you grep to exclude a string
[03:00] <monsterb> LinuxJones: will i gain anything from having /home in it's own partition?
[03:00] <Harti> crimsun: i should change "none" in "aoss firefox"?
[03:00] <rukuartic> noiesmo: grep -v <string>
[03:01] <sharpy> rukuartic, apt-getting it... No gkrellm is too big and bulky and it sits right on my desktop.
[03:01] <crimsun> Harti: no, use 'none'
[03:01] <rukuartic> sharpy: You can close it/skin it you know
[03:01] <viator> theres a TOn of grellm themes
[03:01] <crimsun> Harti: then, from a Terminal, invoke ``aoss firefox''
[03:01] <noiesmo> rukuartic, thanks
[03:01] <viator> i use one of the glass themes
[03:01] <LinuxJones> monsterb: yes if you need to re-install or change distros or whtever you get to keep your app settings and other data like music you have intact.
[03:01] <viator> makes it transparent
[03:01] <sharpy> rukuartic, when u say close...it sits on my dock apps?
[03:01] <rukuartic> noiesmo: In the future, you can do "man <programname>" for a complete tutorial on how to do it
[03:01] <rukuartic> sharpy: I mean, hit right click and then click close
[03:02] <rukuartic> sharpy: It doesnt sit in your dock, as far as I know. You might be able to get a mod for it though
[03:02] <noiesmo> rukuartic, yeah just being lazy I know I should rtfm thanks again
[03:02] <monsterb> LinuxJones: when I install games/apps does it all go into /home?
[03:02] <sharpy> rukuartic, hmm. Sounds like you like it.
[03:02] <rukuartic> sharpy: I do :P
[03:03] <viator> /usr/bin
[03:03] <sharpy> rukuartic, i just want the basics not a system wide stats sit-on-my-beautiful-desktop app.
[03:03] <linux_galore> dom the PD0040 is a logitech webcam
[03:03] <rukuartic> sharpy: The cool thing about it is this, if you're on someone else's computer in a different nation, you can use gkrellm to monitor your computer still
[03:03] <sethk> monsterb, state files are generally stored in $HOME, is that what you mean?
[03:03] <LinuxJones> monsterb: no but things like firefox bookmarks xchat configuration files etc.. are stored in the /home directory
[03:03] <rukuartic> sharpy: That, and you can go and add or remove things you want from the list (eg, CPU and net, but not disk or ram
[03:04] <rukuartic> sharpy: But gdesklets I think is another app you might like
[03:04] <sn9> i seem to have thoroughly hosed gnome-volume-manager somehow. any tips?
[03:04] <sharpy> rukuartic, I might use it if it's transparent or blends in with my desktop.
[03:04] <LinuxJones> monsterb: most applications you install are put in the /usr/bin/ directory
[03:04] <Harti> crimsun: firefox crash too
[03:05] <mram> my totem movie player crashes, i click on it and it loads and quickly closes itself
[03:05] <crimsun> Harti: on -all- sites with flash?
[03:05] <Harti> crimsun: no, only this
[03:05] <monsterb> LinuxJones: thx for info
[03:05] <crimsun> Harti: that can't be a firefox bug, then
[03:05] <brokengun> god damnit.
[03:06] <brokengun> why am i such a noob
[03:06] <LinuxJones> monsterb: good luck :)
[03:06] <sn9> mram: that used to happen to me too. an update from either security or backports fixed it
[03:06] <brokengun> i need the command to run a program, and i apologize for being such a noob
[03:06] <_jason> brokengun: what program?
[03:06] <crimsun> alt+F2 ?
[03:06] <Harti> crimsun: but when its "none" and i start firefox normaly, then works fine
[03:06] <LinuxJones> brokengun: don't worry we were all there at one time :)
[03:06] <brokengun> just a program
[03:06] <Harti> crimsun: is it a aoss-bug?
[03:07] <crimsun> Harti: no, it's a Flash bug.
[03:07] <brokengun> im on my mac and im trying to open an application with the terminal
[03:07] <mram> sn9: really well my system is up-to-date, so it still does it hopefully when the official 6.06 (i am using beta 2) comes out it will be fixed
[03:07] <linux_galore> brokengun: varies  either just type the apps name or if its a script cd /path/to/app  then ./app_name
[03:07] <brokengun> Linuxjones: thanks mate
[03:07] <rukuartic> sharpy: gdesklets is a pretty slick looking thing
[03:07] <sn9> mram: up-to-date with backports also?
[03:07] <brokengun> hmm see i tried the ./appmane
[03:07] <rukuartic> brokengun: You type in the name of the program :P Where is it/what is it named?
[03:07] <brokengun> i will try somehting with a bit more mixed up hold up
[03:07] <Harti> crimsun: but why only on my sys?
[03:08] <_jason> brokengun: maybe you can tell us the appname?
[03:08] <crimsun> Harti: url?
[03:08] <brokengun> Activity Monitor
[03:08] <brokengun> should i put a space in the name?
[03:08] <linux_galore> brokengun: heres a trick  type  ./abc  were abc are the first three letters of the file name  then hit the TAB key
[03:08] <sn9> brokengun: is this on OS X?
[03:08] <Harti> http://en.t45ol.com/play/1844/heavy-metal-girl.html
[03:08] <mram> sn9: as far as i know, i did sudo apt-get upgrade and nothing
[03:08] <brokengun> sn9:yup
[03:08] <rukuartic> brokengun: Thats probably the propper name. But the real program name could be "actmon" or something.
[03:08] <rukuartic> brokengun: You're on ubuntu?
[03:08] <Harti> crimsun: http://en.t45ol.com/play/1844/heavy-metal-girl.html
[03:08] <markus__> hi
[03:08] <brokengun> no
[03:08] <brokengun> OS X
[03:08] <iNiku> brokengun, for mac apps, try open Foo.app
[03:09] <LinuxJones> brokengun: type act (then press tab twice)
[03:09] <brokengun> ok
[03:09] <iNiku> like, open Safari.app
[03:09] <brokengun> ok and that is what i should use
[03:09] <sn9> brokengun: open /Applications/Utilities/Activity\ Monitor.app
[03:09] <gerardomt> Hi
[03:09] <LinuxJones> brokengun: your running OSX ?
[03:09] <gerardomt> Where Can i Faind a room in spanish
[03:09] <gerardomt> ?
[03:09] <_jason> !es
[03:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:09] <brokengun> sn9: k hold
[03:09] <rukuartic> _jason: You're fast...
[03:09] <rukuartic> gerardomt: Good luck :)
[03:10] <AnsiC> ok
[03:10] <criminy> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another proces
[03:10] <eth0> hi, is it possible to make a new partition without formatting my whole HD?
[03:10] <viator> Hardware Monitor applet
[03:10] <AnsiC> gute nacht
[03:10] <brokengun> sn9: not workin;
[03:10] <criminy> how can I unlock that file? My PC died during the last dist-upgrade?
[03:10] <viator> is what you want
[03:10] <AnsiC> good night
[03:10] <AnsiC> buona notte
[03:10] <AnsiC> buenas noces
[03:10] <crimsun> Harti: plays fine here.
[03:10] <AnsiC> night
[03:10] <crimsun> Harti: are you using dapper or breezy?
[03:11] <sn9> eth0: it is if you have free space, and map entries
[03:11] <Harti> crimsun: yes, here too. but only when i use aoss it crashes. dapper
[03:11] <eth0> sn9: i have free space, not sure about the map entries though
[03:11] <crimsun> Harti: must be your hardware, then, which doesn't support something.
[03:11] <crimsun> Harti: (or more likely, the alsa-driver doesn't support it)
[03:12] <mram> swapping out a video card in linux soon, will ubuntu see that i have a new video card and load the approiate driver for it?
[03:12] <sn9> eth0: do you have an extended partition?
[03:12] <eth0> sn9: yeah
[03:12] <linux_galore> criminy: you have a running process that blocking access
[03:12] <Harti> crimsun: i have nForce2-onboardsound
[03:12] <Quan-Time> i cant install nvidia video drivers because its asking for compiled kernel source.. any ideas ?
[03:12] <sn9> eth0: is the free space part of it?
[03:12] <crimsun> Harti: hmm, I use the same driver. Are you using current dapper?
[03:12] <eth0> sn9: no :(
[03:12] <noiesmo> ubotu, tell Quan-Time about nvidia
[03:12] <Harti> crimsun: yes. but i dont use the nforce-driver
[03:13] <slavik> huh?
[03:13] <crimsun> Harti: which do you use?
[03:13] <sn9> eth0: how many primary partitions do you have?
[03:13] <rukuartic> mram: I think what might happen is it'll detect your new card, but you'd need to install the drivers by yourself through the command line with aptget. Imma nub, so I might be totally wrong
[03:13] <crimsun> Harti: (I use snd_intel8x0)
[03:13] <linux_galore> criminy:  use top to see whats running then kill it will killall -9 appname  most common problem is that dpkg-reconfigur is running so type sudo killall -9 dpkg-reconfigur
[03:13] <slavik> crimsun: good news ... snd_hda_intel in latest dapper doesn't cause trouble ... still getsloaded though
[03:13] <linux_galore> s/will/with/
[03:13] <_jason> Hi if I wanted to override the mime type for a file, what would be the proper way?  For example I want to change text/x-python to be application/x-python.  I can edit freedesktop.org.xml and get what I want, but there is another file I can use so I can keep track of my changes?  I've tried making an Override.xml and that doesn't seem to work, did I do something wrong?  Thanks
[03:13] <crimsun> slavik: ENOCONTEXT
[03:13] <slavik> huh?
[03:14] <mram> rukuartic: i guess i shall find out then, ;-) thanks for the info
[03:14] <eth0> sn9: not sure about primary, but i have an ext3, extended and swap
[03:14] <Harti> crimsun: nothing, only alsa. when i install the nforce-driver, my multiple sounds goes not. without nforce-driver, it works fine
[03:14] <crimsun> slavik: ...what are you talking about?
[03:14] <slavik> snd_hda_intel
[03:14] <crimsun> slavik: ...right, and?
[03:14] <sn9> eth0: primary partitions are numbered 1 thru 4. logical ones are 5 and up
[03:14] <slavik> it doesn't 'cause the azx_get_response error
[03:14] <crimsun> Harti: are you referring to nvsound or to snd_intel8x0?
[03:14] <slavik> but still getsloaded by udev ... I black listed it though
[03:15] <crimsun> slavik: are you using another card?
[03:15] <Harti> crimsun: i dont understand what you mean :(
[03:15] <eth0> sn9: they're hda1, hda2 and hda5, those are the only numbers i can see
[03:15] <slavik> crimsun: atiixp is the proper thing :P
[03:15] <slavik> crimsun: this is a udev thing ...
[03:16] <slavik> crimsun: but there isn't trouble
[03:16] <crimsun> mmkay
[03:16] <sn9> eth0: sounds like you can do it
[03:16] <eth0> sn9: oh cool, how do i do so?
[03:16] <slavik> crimsun: just wanted to update you :P
[03:16] <slavik> crimsun: where do you teach?
[03:16] <crimsun> Harti: are you saying that using aoss on snd_intel8x0 crashes _only_ for that Web site?
[03:16] <crimsun> slavik: NC A&T
[03:16] <sn9> eth0: first, you must deactivate swap
[03:16] <slavik> if it's not a secret
[03:16] <slavik> k
[03:16] <rukuartic> mram: You know how to use a consoel?
[03:16] <slavik> we had some dude from hofstra and SUNY come evaluate our dept.
[03:17] <rukuartic> console that is
[03:17] <sn9> eth0: better yet, boot a livecd
[03:17] <jonman> when i do pon dsl-provider it starts throwing characters but still the net does'nt work
[03:17] <Harti> crimsun: yes, only there. on other sites aoss works fine and i can hear bepp-media-player AND sound on websites
[03:17] <mram> rukuartic: some what i am a cs student and at school that is all we pretty much use
[03:17] <eth0> sn9: imma have to download a live cd if that's the case :(
[03:17] <eth0> sn9: and no blank cds
[03:17] <rukuartic> mram: Oh, then if you can use IRSSI or a CLI IRC program you're set
[03:17] <crimsun> Harti: I can't reproduce your issue. Can you pastebin dmesg?
[03:18] <eth0> sn9: i can't unmount it or whatever in gparted
[03:18] <sn9> eth0: you can use the installer instead, but it'll be clunky
[03:18] <slavik> our comp sci dep stinks ... :(
[03:18] <eth0> sn9: what's an installer?
[03:18] <sn9> eth0: the cd you installed with
[03:18] <mram> rukuartic: if the system won't load after the video card swap out...hey i am thanks for the advice
[03:18] <x405> Oh, sn9. Thanks for the help by the way.
[03:19] <ocult> hello
[03:19] <eth0> sn9: no can do atm :(
[03:19] <eth0> sn9: is there another way without cds?
[03:19] <doms> Webcam Vista Pro, Manufacturer: Creative Labs
[03:19] <ocult> i have one problem if my sound.. when ubuntu start, and is loading modules. it loda alsa card 0  and alsa card 1
[03:19] <sn9> eth0: floppy boot
[03:19] <doms> Webcam Vista Pro, Manufacturer: Creative Labs
[03:19] <ocult> is it right ?
[03:19] <rukuartic> mram: No problem. You know you can switch terminals with ctrl+alt+fx and booting into restore mode right?
[03:19] <eth0> sn9: im on a laptop, no floppy
[03:20] <aicrono> hey, im new to ubuntu and im trying to start sshd, can anyone lend a hand?
[03:20] <Harti> crimsun: http://nopaste.biz/?5473
[03:20] <sn9> eth0: flash drive boot?
[03:20] <mram> rukuartic: yeah i do thanks.
[03:20] <doms> Webcam Vista Pro, Manufacturer: Creative Labs
[03:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell aicrono about ssh
[03:20] <eth0> sn9: how do i do that?
[03:20] <doms> Webcam Vista Pro, Manufacturer: Creative Labs how do i configure that webcam
[03:21] <intelikey> anyone know a good tts program ?
[03:21] <eth0> sn9: sounds dangerous heh
[03:21] <rukuartic> intelikey: What are you trying to do?
[03:21] <intelikey> set up a tts reader
[03:21] <sn9> i seem to have thoroughly hosed gnome-volume-manager somehow. any tips?
[03:22] <slavik> sn9: re-install
[03:22] <rukuartic> intelikey: Oh, Text to Speech? Sorry, I totally was thinking terminals. Try searching the repositories for "tts"... never used one myself.
[03:22] <intelikey> k
[03:22] <doms> Webcam Vista Pro, Manufacturer: Creative Labs how do i configure that webcam
[03:22] <slavik> doms: have you tried wiki?
[03:22] <sn9> slavik: i doubt it's that bad...
[03:22] <slavik> !webcam
[03:22] <ubotu> webcam is probably now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv.
[03:23] <eth0> sn9: this isn't going to be easy is it?
[03:23] <intelikey> well i have used festival a little  but it really leaves some to be desired...  i have heard much better.   just don't know where to find them
[03:23] <LinuxJones> aicrono: system >> help >> system documentation select ubuntu server then select networking on the left hand side
[03:23] <doms> is this correck i install mbr from univers then i  re-install my xp then reboot after installing is mbr from can recognize my ubuntu box
[03:23] <james`> hi, anybody know how i can make VLC look better?
[03:23] <crimsun> Harti: I notice you're using the proprietary 'nvidia' driver. Is the crash reproducible using the free 'nv' one?
[03:23] <sohmc> Hello all!  :-)  How do I install a .deb file?
[03:23] <doms> is this correck i install mbr from univers then i  re-install my xp then reboot after installing is mbr from xp can recognize my ubuntu box
[03:24] <crimsun> james`: dist-upgrade to dapper.
[03:24] <rukuartic> sohmc: "sudo dpkg -i <file>.deb"
[03:24] <Harti> crimsun: i dont test this
[03:24] <LinuxJones> sohmc: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:24] <sn9> eth0: no. it's a very bad idea to repartition a drive that has mounted filesystems on it. you need to boot from something else
[03:24] <sohmc> thanks!
[03:24] <james`> crimsun, is that safe?
[03:24] <cius> I'm using dapper beta 2 and whenever I go to change my gnome theme it pops up with an error box that says "Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'".  Is there a fix for this?
[03:24] <crimsun> cius: log out and back in, and try it again
[03:24] <linuxcrazy> yo
[03:24] <Harti> criminy: you mean this crash come from the nvidia-glx-legacy driver?
[03:24] <cius> k, I'll try it
[03:24] <crimsun> james`: works for me (WFM)
[03:24] <saaida> which program is used for Decompressing Bzip-compressed Files. i mean good and light one
[03:25] <Harti> criminy: sorry
[03:25] <eth0> sn9: i see
[03:25] <intelikey> james not really.  but if you backup first, most people get it to work...
[03:25] <crimsun> Harti: it's difficult to say unless you try it
[03:25] <slavik> saaida: tar
[03:25] <slavik> saaida: or file-roller
[03:25] <linuxcrazy> tar -cvf <filename>
[03:25] <slavik> for tar, it's -bor -j option, I forget which
[03:25] <linuxcrazy> gzip <filename>
[03:25] <intelikey> saaida bzip and bunzip
[03:26] <gdh> tar -xvjf file.tar.bz2
[03:26] <linuxcrazy> gunzip <filename>
[03:26] <gdh> or yes bunzip2 directly..
[03:26] <Quan-Time> gah, im having a fair bit of trouble here.. NVIDIA display drivers.. leave x, and sh NVID...run, it then says cant find kernel-source to compile, checks web, cant find one for me, then says i need to compile something, i needed to install "make" and few other things.. still cant get it to install.. anyone know a quick way to get it going ?
[03:26] <cius> that solved it crimsun, thanks
[03:26] <linuxcrazy> wow! there's alot of people on this channel!
[03:26] <saaida> intelikey : i have bzip. how to use it ?
[03:26] <jmg> linuxcrazy: yeah its insane
[03:26] <linuxcrazy> bzip <filename>
[03:26] <intelikey> saaida man bzip
[03:26] <LinuxJones> Quan-Time: there are nvidia binaries available for donload in Ubuntu already
[03:26] <linuxcrazy> right?
[03:27] <Apach> hey, is sophos antivirus any good?
[03:27] <LinuxJones> *download
[03:27] <linuxcrazy> bzip <filename> ?
[03:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell Quan-Time about nvidia
[03:27] <linuxcrazy> apt-get nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx
[03:27] <LinuxJones> linuxcrazy: That's because Ubuntu rocks !
[03:27] <linuxcrazy> ?!
[03:27] <intelikey> saaida if it is more than one file you wish to compress i sujest using tar and bzip   tar to make the archive  bzip to compress it.
[03:27] <linuxcrazy> huh?
[03:27] <brokengun> hey guys, im trying to get to this directory on my mac and it keeps saying that is isn't there... but it is like i will go to the folder before i want to go to and type "ls" and it says the name but it won't let me open it
[03:28] <brokengun> what's with that
[03:28] <linuxcrazy> LinuxJones, what did I say?
[03:28] <linuxcrazy> apt-get?
[03:28] <linuxcrazy> ohhh
[03:28] <linuxcrazy> the number of people.
[03:28] <LinuxJones> linuxcrazy:  you said there were lots of people in the irc channel
[03:28] <saaida> intelikey : sorry not sure if bzip is installed . what is thee apt-get name of it ?
[03:28] <linuxcrazy> right, yes my mistake
[03:28] <LinuxJones> :)
[03:28] <linuxcrazy> apt-get install bzip
[03:29] <intelikey> saaida but bzip is the app you asked about.    it's accompanied by bunzip.           saaida it's installed.
[03:29] <sn9> slavik: the problem i'm having is that removable volumes mount successfully, but nautilus doesn't think anything is mounted
[03:29] <sn9> brokengun: did you use the backslash?
[03:29] <_jason> saaida: bzip2 is the command
[03:29] <linuxcrazy> Quan-Time: apt-get install nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx
[03:29] <ignacio> gringos puuuutosss
[03:29] <Daskies> Is there an mp4 codex?
[03:29] <brokengun> sn9: for my other problem or for this one?
[03:29] <intelikey> bzip2 is the command i think saaida
[03:29] <linuxcrazy> mp4 yeah
[03:29] <linuxcrazy> mp4 codec?
[03:30] <ignacio> yanquis de mierdaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:30] <sn9> brokengun: to get into a folder with a space in the name
[03:30] <Harti> crimsun: it crashes too
[03:30] <brokengun> sn9: yeah it didn't work
[03:30] <linuxcrazy> ignacio: shut up
[03:30] <LinuxJones> Daskies: vlc can play mp4 out of te box
[03:30] <Daskies> linuxcrazy: Yes
[03:30] <sohmc> how do I install the latest openoffice 2.0.2?
[03:30] <crimsun> Harti: get a backtrace, please.
[03:30] <linuxcrazy> ignacio: speak english
[03:30] <Daskies> LinuxJones, I'm aware, I still want the codec
[03:30] <linuxcrazy> please
[03:30] <james`> thanks guys :)
[03:30] <blind> Any program that can mount an "mdf" image file?
[03:30] <crimsun> Harti: use the firefox-dbg package
[03:31] <linuxcrazy> sohmc: apt-get install openoffice 2.0.2
[03:31] <Harti> criminy: i have change nvidia to nv
[03:31] <crimsun> Harti: you are addressing the wrong person.
[03:31] <sn9> blind: you'll need to convert it i think
[03:31] <Akaishi> I'm having an issue with DCC sends in any IRC client starting off slow, and then dwindling to nothing.
[03:31] <linuxcrazy> or would that be openoffice.org......
[03:31] <blind> sn9: using what?
[03:31] <Harti> crimsun: jo
[03:31] <sn9> blind: i don't remember, but i know i saw something
[03:31] <intelikey> bzip2 - high-quality block-sorting file compressor - utilities
[03:31] <Harti> criminy: sorry again ^^
[03:32] <slavik> someone called me?
[03:32] <sohmc> linuxcrazy:: thanks.  I just ran it and it sayst that openoffice is not available.
[03:32] <intelikey> syre saaida
[03:32] <crimsun> Harti: install and use the firefox-dbg package to obtain a backtrace
[03:32] <Harti> crimsun: ok
[03:32] <sn9> slavik: you responded to my problem. the problem i'm having is that removable volumes mount successfully, but nautilus doesn't think anything is mounted
[03:32] <sohmc> I'm trying to run the .deb file for openoffice but its giving me weird errors
[03:32] <blind> nautilus thinks?
[03:32] <jonman> when i do pon dsl-provider it starts throwing characters but still the internet does'nt work any ideas?
[03:32] <linuxcrazy> sohmc: try apt-get install openofffice.org 2.0.2
[03:33] <slavik> hmm, nautilus is wrong ... tell him that ...
[03:33] <slavik> but I dunno what to say
[03:33] <sohmc> linuxcrazy:: didn't work
[03:33] <brokengun> just as a general rule of thumb, is it ok to leave a password cracker going overnight or will it overheat my laptop?
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[03:33] <ubotu> [apt-get]  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> brokengun,  if it does - you got a really cruddy laptop.
[03:34] <Harti> crimsun: how i use firefox-dbg?
[03:34] <saaida> intelikey: well i have a file xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin-1.9.1.tar.bz2.. when i click on it there is no application associated with it . i did install bzip2 from synaptic but nothing happen when i click on the file
[03:34] <linuxcrazy> sohmc: apt-get openoffice.org
[03:34] <LinuxJones> jonman: your connection doesn't work after a system reboot ?
[03:34] <doms> is this correck i install mbr from univers then i  re-install my xp then reboot after installing is mbr from xp can recognize my ubuntu box
[03:34] <doms> Webcam Vista Pro, Manufacturer: Creative Labs how do i configure that webcam
[03:34] <brokengun> Dr_Willis: ibook is good enough right?
[03:34] <linuxcrazy> maybe that will update it.
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> brokengun,  barely. :P lol
[03:34] <Daskies> !tell Daskies about mp4
[03:34] <brokengun> oh, that was a rug burn
[03:34] <intelikey> saaida use tar -xjvf xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin-1.9.1.tar.bz2
[03:34] <Daskies> MMm
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> brokengun,  ya dont want to get me started on apple. :)
[03:35] <Daskies> that doesn't work
[03:35] <sohmc> linuxcrazy:: hmm...that didn't work either
[03:35] <blind> Anyone know what I could use to convert an mdf image file to an iso?
[03:35] <brokengun> im goinng run, thanks to everyone for the help as always
[03:35] <sn9> doms: always install windows first
[03:35] <anilkumar> hi
[03:35] <crimsun> Harti: the same way you use firefox
[03:35] <anilkumar> i just installed ubuntu now
[03:35] <doms> ok
[03:35] <anilkumar> and i have preiviously stored packages
[03:35] <Harti> crimsun: and where i find the logs or anyway?
[03:36] <crimsun> Harti: no, the first thing you do is see if you can reproduce the crash with the debug package
[03:36] <intelikey> saaida it is a bziped tar archive  so you use tar plus the -j switch which invokes bzip2 to uncompress it and unpacks the archive.
[03:36] <linuxcrazy> sohmc: apt-get -u upgrade
[03:36] <anilkumar> so how can install them without again downloading from net
[03:36] <linuxcrazy> that should do it.
[03:36] <crimsun> Harti: if you can, restart it and attach to it using gdb, then get a backtrace and attach it to the bug report
[03:36] <crimsun> Harti: I'm away for a meeting.
[03:37] <saaida> intelikey : but isn't there a program with an interface for this  ?
[03:37] <pianoboy3333> Is `aplay' better than `play' ?
[03:37] <Harti> crimsun: ok, thanks for help
[03:37] <pianoboy3333> !aplay
[03:37] <ubotu> pianoboy3333: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:37] <intelikey> fileroller saaida
[03:37] <Akaishi> I'm having an issue with DCC sends in any IRC client starting off slow, and then dwindling to nothing.
[03:38] <sohmc> linuxcrazy:: hmm...let me paste what I've got
[03:38] <Akaishi> I don't know where to start troubleshooting this
[03:38] <sohmc> !paste
[03:38] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[03:38] <intelikey> saaida by "with an interface" i assume you mean a graphical interface ?    cli apps have an interface... the commandline...  stdin + stdout + stderr
[03:39] <sohmc> linuxcrazy:: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13102
[03:39] <Hoornet> i have a newbie question
[03:39] <pianoboy3333> Hoornet: shoot
[03:39] <slackgen> Akaishi: are you downloading LEGAL files?
[03:39] <Hoornet> The install CD is just one? Why?
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> Hoornet,  why not.
[03:40] <pianoboy3333> Hoornet: yea, why not?
[03:40] <Hoornet> usually a +linux distro is like 4, 5 CDs
[03:40] <Akaishi> I'm uploading recorded tracks to my band actually
[03:40] <pianoboy3333> not as I know them...
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> Hoornet,  Nope... :P not usually
[03:40] <sharpy> i am trying to find a way to display my CPU/mem/network on my taskbar. I apt-get installed gdesklets (but that's only the application) where can I find such gdesklets? I also downloaded adesklets but that's even more of a configuration nightmare. If I wanted to tweak all day i would have chosen gentoo.
[03:40] <linuxcrazy> sohmc: do apt- get -uf upgrade
[03:40] <blind> Anyone know what I could use to convert an mdf image file to an iso?
[03:40] <intelikey> Hoornet because the ubuntu developers expect everyone to have high speed inet....
[03:40] <Hoornet> Redhat, 4 example
[03:40] <Akaishi> recieve seems to work fine, send just kind of... gets tired and dies
[03:40] <Hoornet> =
[03:40] <Hoornet> ?
[03:41] <forkmantis> in the terminal in OS x are the commands pbcopy and pbpaste, which give you access to the GUI's clipboard from the terminal
[03:41] <forkmantis> does ubuntu have any such thing?
[03:41] <LinuxJones> Hoornet: sometimes less is more :)
[03:41] <slackgen> sharpy: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php
[03:41] <saaida> intelikey: sorry what was the app for the graphical inteface ?
[03:41] <intelikey> Hoornet debian for example  9 cd's
[03:41] <linuxcrazy> how do I coult how many people are on this channel? this is incredible!
[03:41] <Hoornet> yes
[03:41] <linuxcrazy> count*
[03:41] <sn9> Hoornet: you can install 100GB worth of stuff with apt
[03:41] <intelikey> fileroller saaida
[03:41] <Akaishi> 704 at the time you asked
[03:41] <Hoornet> aha!
[03:41] <Hoornet> so
[03:41] <intelikey> saaida there are probably others..
[03:41] <sharpy> slackern, would these gdesklets also work with KDE? I am running KDE.
[03:41] <aicrono> i can't figure out how to run sshd_config, can any one help?
[03:41] <slackgen> sharpy: yes.
[03:41] <linuxcrazy> KDE rocks!!
[03:42] <Hoornet> when i install it i have an option to download other packages?
[03:42] <sohmc> linuxcrazy:: okay...give me a sec....
[03:42] <sharpy> slackern, ok.. thank u. :-)
[03:42] <LinuxJones> Hoornet: oh man your gonna be knocked over by apt :)
[03:42] <Hoornet> Like KDevelop?
[03:42] <saaida> intelikey:thanx
[03:42] <sn9> Hoornet: after you install
[03:42] <slackgen> sharpy: you are welcome
[03:42] <Hoornet> yes thats what i ment
[03:42] <sn9> Hoornet: yes
[03:43] <intelikey> Hoornet after install your only option for installing other packages is to dl them... the package manager is made for that.
[03:43] <Hoornet> aha!Great
[03:43] <minerale> Ok, I've enabled universe... but mplayer is not listed
[03:43] <linuxcrazy> download the source and compile it
[03:43] <sn9> minerale: it's in multiverse
[03:43] <intelikey> Hoornet not so great on dialup ;/
[03:43] <slackgen> minerale: did you update?
[03:43] <Hoornet> I thought its got to be somethong like that
[03:43] <linuxcrazy> you need build-essential
[03:43] <Hoornet> :;)
[03:44] <linuxcrazy> apt-get install build-essential
[03:44] <Hoornet> I'll survive . Have ADSL
[03:44] <linuxcrazy> only way you can do ./configure in ubuntu
[03:44] <Hoornet> I'm just affraid i won't be able to connect to internet
[03:45] <blind> Hoornet: so run the live CD first.
[03:45] <Hoornet> The last time i tried was with Fedora 4
[03:45] <Hoornet> and it didn't work at all
[03:45] <akrowne> hi
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> !adsl
[03:45] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[03:45] <Hoornet> I alredy have fedora on this comp as a second OS
[03:45] <LinuxJones> Hoornet: what kind of ethernet card do you have ?
[03:46] <Hoornet> i'll just override it with UBUNTU
[03:46] <Hoornet> RTL 8139A fast ethernet
[03:47] <akrowne> i am using dapper drake and a few programs in X do not seem to be able to find fonts.  for example, xfontsel, and xfig.
[03:47] <xbox_sky> % sh ./configure what's the difference between that and standard ./configure?
[03:48] <intelikey> about a buck two ninty five.... or three key strocks xbox_sky
[03:48] <akrowne> the error from xfig begins with: Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[03:48] <akrowne> err, xfontsel
[03:48] <akrowne> anyone seen this before?
[03:49] <xbox_sky> intelikey wow, you've must be very proud of yourself
[03:49] <intelikey> xbox_sky really though.  you can do  sh file     and it will execute file even if the permissions are not executable.
[03:49] <xbox_sky> :D
[03:49] <xbox_sky> hmm
[03:49] <linuxcrazy> sohmc: what happened?
[03:50] <xbox_sky> so that's the difference eh
[03:50] <xbox_sky> thanks intelikey
[03:50] <sohmc> linuxcrazy:: sorry about the wait.  I'm still trying to print an important document before I uninstall.  :-/
[03:50] <intelikey> now where's my buck two ninty five xbox_sky
[03:50] <intelikey> ?
[03:50] <xbox_sky> will paypal suffice .D
[03:50] <xbox_sky> x:D
[03:50] <intelikey> :)
[03:50] <linuxcrazy> g2g brb
[03:51] <Quan-Time> cheers for the nvidia help.. now i got one or 2 remaining issues... laugh if you will.. but i have 2 nvidia cards.. and triple monitor setup.. X is on the 2nd card, but booting / term window (ctrl alt backspace) is on the other monitors
[03:51] <Quan-Time> i want full 3 working. if that makes sence
[03:52] <doms> what is the best version of postgres should i install
[03:52] <doms> what is the best version of postgres should i install
[03:52] <doms> what is the best version of postgres should i install
[03:52] <screamz> I would bet on the latest stable one :)
[03:53] <intelikey> hmmm i am now running kde inside of blackbox on dapper....  not bad.
[03:53] <Krhis> I might be purchasing a 20.1" widescreen for my computer. Will Ubuntu/X have any trouble displaying at 1680x1050 with DVI?
[03:53] <gdh> doms: Please don't repeat yourself; someone will think you are broken and need a kick...
[03:54] <Krhis> Did some research.... looks posible.
[03:54] <Krhis> possible*
[03:54] <Quan-Time> it has no problem
[03:54] <intelikey> silly gdh kicks are for trolls
[03:54] <x405> Try it, if the store doesn't accept returns, not a good place to buy from
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> Krhis,  i dont think there would be a problem
[03:55] <Quan-Time> just fix your .conf to suit
[03:55] <newtoubuntu> Hi I'm having problems with burning AUDIO CDs
[03:55] <Krhis> Newegg. ^^
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> google for 'modeline generator' if all else fails.
[03:55] <gdh> intelikey: Perhaps, but it's a slow night :)
[03:55] <intelikey> si
[03:55] <Krhis> Yep, I've VIM'ed xorg.conf all the time.
[03:55] <Krhis> Thanks for the help.
[03:56] <newtoubuntu> Hey!
[03:56] <sohmc> linuxcrazy:: alright...that removed ubuntu-desktop as well as openoffice.org
[03:56] <intelikey> anyone know if "kttsd-contrib-plugins" is any better than festival,  or other way around ?
[03:56] <doms> what is the best version of postgres should i install
[03:57] <Krhis> Dr_Willis, just before you said that I already had http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl in a firefox tab.
[03:57] <newtoubuntu> Does anybody want to help me?
[03:57] <Krhis> newtoubuntu, just ask in the channel.
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:57] <newtoubuntu> krhis: You mean of the specific program?
[03:57] <Despeeh> can anybody help me with my nvidia 3d video card
[03:58] <slavik> Despeeh: we can try
[03:58] <Despeeh> :)
[03:58] <slavik> !ask
[03:58] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[03:58] <Krhis> newtoubuntu, you are in a channel. This is channel #ubuntu.
[03:58] <slavik> !ubotu usage
[03:58] <ubotu> You can find out how to operate ubotu on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:58] <Despeeh> what should i try? i just downloaded those drivers from nvidia.com
[03:58] <Despeeh> if i type fglrx i shows only generic video card ..
[03:59] <sohmc> how do I install openoffice 2.0.2?
[03:59] <akrowne> this font error is killing me
[03:59] <Krhis> I always APT my drivers.
[03:59] <newtoubuntu> krhis: I know, You just said "The channel" I don't know what that means
[03:59] <minerale> What is the name of the wiki page that details installing a 32bit firefox on amd64?
[03:59] <akrowne> i can't finish the diagram i'm working on =(
[03:59] <Krhis> An IRC channel?
[03:59] <Krhis> It's a goup of people, like this right now.
[04:00] <Despeeh> i tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it does not have oppirtunity to choose that nvidia driver i downloaded
[04:00] <newtoubuntu> Why can't you just help me here, I'm using serpintine in dapper
[04:00] <slavik> sohmc: wait until dapper
[04:00] <sn9> Despeeh: did you install the nvidia-glx package?
[04:00] <sohmc> slavik:: what's dapper?
[04:00] <Despeeh> yes
[04:00] <minerale> despeeh: did you download them from nvidia's website, or did you download nvidia-glx ?
[04:01] <Despeeh> i downloaded both
[04:01] <Krhis> newtoubuntu, I never said I wouldn't help you. I asked to to "tell us what you need help with in the channel".
[04:01] <slavik> sohmc: next version of ubuntu
[04:01] <Despeeh> nvidias side those drivers and with apt-get i downloaded that nvidia package
[04:01] <slavik> newtoubuntu: just state your problem please
[04:01] <sohmc> is there a way to install Ooo 2.0.2 now?
[04:01] <ocult> or ATi package
[04:01] <Despeeh> and latest kernel too for sure
[04:01] <minerale> !tell newtoubuntu about ask
[04:01] <Efreak> I need help with ubuntu please?
[04:01] <Krhis> Delgul_at_work, this help? http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[04:01] <slavik> sohmc: there is a wiki guide I think
[04:02] <Despeeh> ill check that ty
[04:02] <newtoubuntu> Krhis: Oh sorry, I alrady asked it, Anyway I can't burn audio CDs and I get a mesage about GStreamer, even though I have the "good" codecs intalled
[04:02] <Krhis> You're welcome.
[04:02] <Hoornet> Q: Kubuntu is the same as ubuntu but it comes witk KDE insted of GNOME?
[04:02] <slackgen> A: exactly
[04:02] <Madpilot> Hoornet, yes
[04:02] <Krhis> Oh, are you burning MP3's?
[04:02] <kbrooks> Hoornet: yeah
[04:02] <kbrooks> !kubuntu
[04:02] <ubotu> I heard kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[04:02] <Hoornet> F**!
[04:02] <Krhis> With what program?
[04:02] <kbrooks> Hoornet: language
[04:02] <Hoornet> I'm downloading the wrong one then!
[04:03] <Hoornet> ups
[04:03] <Davey> Hoornet: not really
[04:03] <slavik> !ooo
[04:03] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[04:03] <Hoornet> sorry
[04:03] <slavik> !openoffice
[04:03] <ubotu> slavik: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:03] <slavik> !OO
[04:03] <ubotu> slavik: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:03] <slavik> ubotu, you suck
[04:03] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[04:03] <slavik> grr
[04:03] <kbrooks> !openoffice.org
[04:03] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks
[04:03] <slavik> HA!
[04:03] <Davey> Hoornet: you can apt-get install (kubuntu|xubuntu|ubuntu)-desktop to change between Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Xubuntu (XFCE4)
[04:03] <kbrooks> slavik: what do you want?
[04:03] <kbrooks> Davey: not "change"
[04:04] <slavik> kbrooks: someone was asking how to get OO2 onto breezy
[04:04] <Madpilot> !+msg the bot
[04:04] <Hoornet> Davey: tnx
[04:04] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:04] <Davey> well, no, to *add* it to your current install :)
[04:04] <newtoubuntu> Khris: Serpintine
[04:04] <slavik> !serpintine
[04:04] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[04:04] <jonman> when i do pon dsl-provider it starts throwing characters but still the internet does'nt work any ideas?
[04:04] <slavik> !serpentine
[04:04] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[04:04] <Krhis> newtoubuntu, sorry that I can't help you. I use K3B personally.
[04:05] <Apostle^> slavik: serpentine isn't very popular
[04:05] <newtoubuntu> Krhis: I have that too, but it's giving me a message about file type (mp3) not supported
[04:06] <Hoornet> And Xubuntu is?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> !xubuntu
[04:06] <ubotu> I guess xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[04:06] <Hoornet> aha!
[04:06] <Apostle^> xubutnu is popular yes.
[04:06] <Krhis> apt-get install k3b-mp3
[04:06] <Krhis> That will fix the error.
[04:06] <newtoubuntu> hoornet: it's dapper basicaly
[04:06] <Hoornet> !xubuntu
[04:06] <doms> what is the best version of postgres should i install
[04:06] <Apostle^> newtoubuntu: ?
[04:06] <blind> Does anyone know what I could use to convert an mdf image file to an iso?
[04:06] <Apostle^> newtoubuntu: thats false
[04:06] <Hoornet> dapper?
[04:06] <Apostle^> blind: sudo apt-get install mdf2iso
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> doms,  the latest one...
[04:06] <forkmantis> is there any way to read/write to the clipboard from a terminal window, similar to the pbcopy/pbpaste commands in OS x?
[04:06] <blind> lmfao
[04:06] <newtoubuntu> Apostle: why?
[04:07] <Flannel> alright guys, if I'm trying to run a local IMAP server, that gets my mail from all my accounts (pop3), I think I use fetchmail and procmail, to put them in my local mail dirs.  How does that work when sending mail?  My clients will connect to IMAP and send the mail that way? and then the mail gets to the external accounts how? any ideas?
[04:07] <Hoornet> sorry but i am a complete begginer
[04:07] <blind> mdf2iso: who'da thunk it.
[04:07] <blind> thanks Apostle^
[04:07] <slavik> forkmantis: ctrl+c/v
[04:07] <Apostle^> you don't really need to convert mdf to iso though.
[04:07] <Apostle^> since mdf is iso9660
[04:07] <blind> no?
[04:07] <blind> hm.
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> Apostle^,  it is?
[04:07] <slavik> forkmantis: or just select and middle click?
[04:07] <Apostle^> indeed it is
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking mdf had a lot of extra info
[04:07] <Apostle^> discovered that yesterday
[04:07] <Apostle^> no it doesn't
[04:07] <slavik> mds has info
[04:07] <Apostle^> mds is like a .cue
[04:07] <Apostle^> not needed
[04:07] <blind> now, how do you mount an image, again?
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> if you say so. :P
[04:07] <Apostle^> i do say so
[04:08] <forkmantis> slavik: I was looking for an actual command that could be run from a shell script
[04:08] <slavik> Apostle^: it is a very good idea to have for track info
[04:08] <blind> I'll test it and we'll find out if he's bullshitting or not.
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> i gave up on that stuff - when i quit messing with Windows Games.
[04:08] <Krhis> newtoubuntu, did that fix the error?
[04:08] <Apostle^> slavik: you don't need it
[04:08] <Hoornet> !dapper
[04:08] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:08] <doms> postgres 8.1
[04:08] <slavik> to put things into a clipboard?
[04:08] <Apostle^> blind: if i'm bullshitting ?
[04:08] <blind> lol kidding!
[04:08] <Apostle^> why would i tell that lie, i have no need
[04:08] <Apostle^> fucking idiot
[04:08] <forkmantis> slavik: yes, and to read things from the clipboard.
[04:08] <blind> !language
[04:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:08] <blind> :P
[04:08] <Apostle^> blind: please go to hell
[04:08] <slavik> Apostle^: you don't need a shell, either ... but it is very good to have
[04:08] <blind> Apostle^, please relax.
[04:08] <Apostle^> thats why i stopped helping people
[04:09] <Apostle^> because of people like blind
[04:09] <blind> Apostle^, jesus christ. i was kidding. you need to learn to relax.
[04:09] <Apostle^> n
[04:09] <Apostle^> o
[04:09] <Apostle^> you need to learn respect
[04:09] <slavik> Apostle^: mds lists track modes ...
[04:09] <newtoubuntu> Krhis: no, I don't think, that's the name of the package
[04:09] <Apostle^> i wish you lived near me so i could teach you a lesson
[04:09] <_jason> guys take it somewhere else please
[04:09] <LinuxJones> Apostle^: please watch the language
[04:09] <slavik> and VCD have different track modes as compared to SVCD
[04:09] <Apostle^> i'm done sorry for the disturbance.
[04:09] <Krhis> newtoubuntu, did you sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[04:09] <slavik> rofl
[04:09] <blind> :\
[04:10] <slavik> besides, mds is like not even 1k
[04:10] <slavik> he should hang out in gentoo ...
[04:10] <blind> my mds's are over 3k
[04:10] <slavik> hmm, lots of tracks then
[04:10] <blind> of course, the mdf's are huge, so.
[04:10] <newtoubuntu> Krhis: yep and "couldn't find package K3b-mp3" happened
[04:10] <slavik> it's still a good idea to have them ...
[04:10] <eth0> can anyone help me create a new partition without formatting with qtparted?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking ive seen mdfs that were larget then the iso/cdrom they were an image of..
[04:10] <slackgen> "mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.mdf /mnt/test" ?
[04:10] <Krhis> newtoubuntu, first do this: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#Repositories
[04:10] <Krhis> Then try that command again.
[04:11] <slackgen> eth0: make sure no partitions are in use them in command line run cfdisk. its pretty self explanitory
[04:12] <newtoubuntu> Krhis: yea your right I just upgraded to dapper, so that must have changed
[04:12] <blind> I tried it, it didn't mount...
[04:12] <IronMann> hmm
[04:12] <IronMann> how to mount a ntfs-partition in ubuntu?
[04:12] <blind> "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage or other error."
[04:12] <blind> IronMann, diskmounter
[04:12] <blind> !diskmounter
[04:12] <ubotu> diskmounter is probably to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[04:12] <Krhis> Enjoy then. Cya.
[04:12] <_jason> IronMann: system > administration > disks
[04:12] <IronMann> oh, thx :)
[04:13] <IronMann> yea _jason, but they wont show up
[04:13] <joh> Great, so I unstalled kubuntu-desktop, just to test, and now it has broken my gnome environment :(
[04:13] <blind> quickest and easiest possible way to mount all your discs is diskmounter.
[04:13] <blind> i love it.
[04:13] <_jason> IronMann: what do you mean by ``won't show up'' ?
[04:13] <IronMann> at the mount-point
[04:13] <slavik> joh: re-install ubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <eth0> slackgen: when i run cfdisk it says error opening disk
[04:13] <_jason> IronMann: they don't get mounted?
[04:13] <Apostle^> !k3b
[04:13] <ubotu> K3b was created to be a feature-rich and easy to handle CD burning application, for more info goto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[04:14] <IronMann> no I dont think so _jason
[04:14] <slackgen> eth0: are you root?
[04:14] <_jason> IronMann: ok, well diskmounter is good... but that disks utility should work too
[04:14] <doms> i install apache ang postgresql 8.1  they were not conflicting each other
[04:14] <joh> slavik: thanks, I'll try that.
[04:14] <eth0> slackgen: hah, sorry i wasn't, haven't used ubuntu in a while heh, forgot the sudo
[04:14] <doms> i install apache and postgresql 8.1  they were not conflicting each other?
[04:15] <IronMann> hm, ok
[04:15] <di> how do i uninstall something that was installed from source?
[04:15] <slavik> di: make uninstall in the source dir
[04:15] <eth0> slackgen: both the partitions i have are in use
[04:15] <doms> i install apache and postgresql 8.1  they were not conflicting each other?
[04:16] <di> ic
[04:16] <di> thx
[04:16] <doms> i install apache and postgresql 8.1  they were not conflicting each other?
[04:16] <slackgen> eth0: you'll have to use a livecd to partition it then
[04:16] <warty> hello
[04:16] <slavik> di: next time, after ./configure, use checkinstall (sudo checkinstall) that will create a deb package
[04:16] <baconbacon> ubotu tell doms about repeat
[04:16] <eth0> slackgen: ah i see
[04:16] <slavik> di: you might have to install it
[04:16] <warty> i need help to conect to a windows server
[04:16] <Apostle^> di: ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall
[04:16] <the_guy1> whats the best c compialer
[04:16] <di> thanks!
[04:16] <Introvert> gcc
[04:16] <di> gcc
[04:16] <Apostle^> one command to own them all.
[04:17] <warty> borland c
[04:17] <Introvert> LOL
[04:17] <di> a flame war might start now
[04:17] <slackgen> eth0: if you are planning on installing ubuntu its livecd will suffice
[04:17] <tux234> Does anyone here use linux with a ATI x1000 series video card??
[04:17] <slavik> Apostle^: ./configure && sudo checkinstall is good, too
[04:17] <Apostle^> slavik: no make? hoho!
[04:17] <baconbacon> the_guy1 is it because you want a c compiler
[04:18] <Apostle^> slavik: i know your just trying to make me angry, it's okay buddy
[04:18] <slavik> di: there want be a flame war, we'll just duct tape warty to a bench :D
[04:18] <warty> hello
[04:18] <warty> i wat
[04:18] <slavik> Apostle^: I've done that many many times
[04:18] <di> :)
[04:18] <IronMann> hmm, that discmounter worked.. But I'm not allowed to enter the partitions
[04:18] <tux234> IS there anyway to get stop xorg from starting at boot up??
[04:18] <Apostle^> IronMann: are they mounted read only?
[04:19] <slavik> tux234: why do that?
[04:19] <warty> !rules
[04:19] <ubotu> You are invited to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:19] <IronMann> yep i think so
[04:19] <warty> !rules
[04:19] <eth0> slackgen: in windows partition magic can do it, are there no programs in linux that will?
[04:19] <Luke> can someone help me build diva? i have to build gstreamer from cvs but i cant get it to work
[04:19] <Apostle^> IronMann: pastebin your mount
[04:19] <joh> slavik: Hmm, my fonts are still broken :( I.e. changing the fonts in gnome-font-properties doesn't affect anything...
[04:19] <IronMann> Apostle^: pastebin? sorry.. but i'm kinda new with linux
[04:19] <Apostle^> IronMann: pastebin.com
[04:19] <_jason> !pastebin
[04:19] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[04:20] <slackgen> eth0: what do you mean, change an existing partition while it is in use?
[04:20] <IronMann> ooh
[04:20] <eth0> slackgen: yeah
[04:20] <joh> slavik: It's the application fonts which are broken...
[04:20] <tux234> I have a x1800xt video card and xorg crashes at boot
[04:20] <slavik> joh: huh?
[04:21] <Apostle^> tux234: what driver are you using?
[04:21] <slackgen> eth0: im sure it is possible but i dont think it would be a good idea.. ive never done it
[04:21] <Introvert> eth0: No, and that's mainly because of how STUPID and UNSTABLE it is.
[04:21] <slavik> tux234: do you get a message?
[04:21] <IronMann> Apostle^:  what info do you want me to pastebin? :O
[04:21] <slackgen> eth0: why do you need to repartition?
[04:21] <Apostle^> IronMann: the command mount in terminal
[04:21] <slavik> tux234: you have to install the ati fglrx driver
[04:21] <eth0> slackgen: i want to install XP on the same laptop
[04:21] <IronMann> oh
[04:21] <slavik> tux234:
[04:21] <slavik> !ati
[04:21] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:21] <Apostle^> eth0: you have to do it from a live-cd
[04:21] <Introvert> Anyways, partition magic does the changes at the next boot before everything mounts anyway
[04:21] <tux234> I think 8.24.8
[04:21] <slavik> follow the binary driver how to
[04:21] <warty> @find knopixx
[04:21] <slavik> yes
[04:21] <tux234> its 8.24.8
[04:21] <slavik> tux234: actually
[04:22] <Apostle^> !ati
[04:22] <slavik> tux234: you have theubuntu box there?
[04:22] <warty> !rules
[04:22] <ubotu> You are invited to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:22] <TeamCanada|Silen> cmd for file properties?
[04:22] <IronMann> Apostle^:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13103
[04:22] <TeamCanada|Silen> size, etc
[04:22] <slackgen> eth0: are you going to do a fresh install of both os's, or just install windows?
[04:22] <slavik> tux234: are you on ubuntu right now?
[04:22] <joh> slavik: The application fonts (see font preferences) are unchangeable... This happened after I installed kubuntu :/
[04:22] <tux234> no
[04:22] <eth0> slackgen: just install windows
[04:22] <warty> what the hell
[04:22] <slavik> tux234: is ubuntu box by your side?
[04:22] <st00p1d> !ati
[04:22] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:22] <baconbacon> !language
[04:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:22] <tux234> I am using windows right now
[04:22] <Apostle^> IronMann: which one are you trying to use
[04:23] <slavik> tux234: I ran into the same problem you have
[04:23] <tux234> I can take notes though
[04:23] <warty> i very tired of be here
[04:23] <slavik> tux234: message me
[04:23] <tux234> and I will save and print them out
[04:23] <IronMann> Apostle^: hdb
[04:23] <slackgen> eth0: is linux installing in a single partition?
[04:23] <slavik> k
[04:23] <tux234> ok
[04:23] <IronMann> 2 and 5
[04:23] <slavik> joh: reinstall kubuntu back?
[04:23] <crunchyfish> i know i was here last night asking about this but i'm running out of ideas. i've done md5 checks and my isos are fine. i've tried burning both 32 and 64 bit ubuntu isos at full speed, 4x, and 1x. when i install normally it will freeze at 70-80% after the reboot. when i try to install with acpi disabled it says that it cannot copy all the files over and it won't finish installing.
[04:23] <eth0> Apach: is this it - ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[04:23] <eth0> Apostle^: is this it - ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[04:24] <Apostle^> no, you want the live cd
[04:24] <eth0> slackgen: sorry what do you mean?
[04:24] <joh> slavik: Installing kubuntu caused the problem :/
[04:24] <eth0> Apostle^: oh wait, sorry i pasted the wrong line heh
[04:24] <Apostle^> IronMann: do you have an instant messaging program, i can help you better in a private convo
[04:24] <slavik> joh: I thought uninstalling it did
[04:24] <slavik> tux234: did you register?
[04:24] <eth0> Apostle^: ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso
[04:24] <IronMann> yea sure Apostle^
[04:24] <crunchyfish> can i maybe boot a live cd and then install the full version through that somehow?
[04:24] <tux234> I am try to pm you now but it still says connecting
[04:24] <Apostle^> eth0: if you have an intel processor that should work
[04:24] <slavik> crunchyfish: only dapper does that though
[04:24] <eth0> Apostle^: yeah i do
[04:24] <Apostle^> IronMann: whats your name/program?
[04:25] <slavik> tux234: you have to register with nickserv first
[04:25] <Apostle^> eth0: use gparted on the live-cd to do what you want
[04:25] <tux234> do think I need to download dapper instead?
[04:25] <joh> slavik: When it was installed, gnome-panel crashed all the time because some part of kde had configured all gtk+ applications to "look as KDE" :/
[04:25] <slackgen> eth0: what is on the computer now? are you planning on using windows and linux? what are you using now?
[04:25] <slavik> tux234: no
[04:25] <IronMann> Apostle^: pm
[04:25] <Apostle^> ahh okay, missed it
[04:25] <tux234> I seen one person say that dapper worked without any mods
[04:25] <slavik> joh: that's the gtk-qt engine
[04:25] <Braz|Smal> Downloading ubuntu... 4%
[04:25] <eth0> slakg: im using just ubuntu atm
[04:25] <blind> Apostle^, mdf2iso wasn't in the repos, so i google'd it, and hit their homepage.. mdf's aren't iso9660s, according to the page (also, it wouldn't mount when i told mount it was an iso9660)
[04:26] <slavik> tux234: you can get dapper, but this will work with both ... dapper is a bit different (and extra command) ...
[04:26] <eth0> slackgen: i'm planning on using windows and linux
[04:26] <tux234> so I take it you have a ati card with 512mg of ram  also?
[04:26] <slavik> tux234: join #ubuntu+1
[04:26] <slackgen> eth0: and what does mount (just by itself) return. you should pastebin it
[04:26] <slavik> tux234: express 200m
[04:26] <joh> slavik: Ah, ok, which shouldn't be used if I change the themes back again...
[04:26] <Apostle^> blind: please don't speak to me, they are iso9660 and i really could careless what you have to say, thanks.
[04:26] <the_guy1> what is the best irc client?
[04:26] <slavik> joh: pretty much
[04:27] <eth0> slackgen: what's the pastebin URL?
[04:27] <slavik> the_guy1: gaim :P
[04:27] <slavik> !pastebin
[04:27] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[04:27] <Apostle^> blind: sorry to catch your lies but, it is in the repo's mdf2iso - A simple utility to convert mdf to iso / cue / toc images
[04:27] <sn9> the_guy1: xchat
[04:27] <blind> oh, well i tried it and it didn't work
[04:27] <slackgen> eth0: what ubotu said
[04:27] <blind> E: Couldn't find package mdf2iso
[04:28] <eth0> slackgen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13104
[04:28] <_jason> blind: you need universe
[04:28] <blind> i have universe :\
[04:28] <blind> or i thought i did.
[04:28] <_jason> !info mdf2iso
[04:28] <joh> slavik: Strange that the fonts are still wierd :(
[04:28] <_jason> Apostle^: you on dapper?
[04:28] <slavik> joh: I dunno ... try to re-install the theme
[04:29] <slackgen> eth0: do you have a second partition already? is it too small?
[04:29] <Apostle^> _jason: indeed
 info mdf2iso
 Package 'mdf2iso' does not exist.
[04:29] <_jason> Apostle^: mdf2iso is only on dapper
[04:29] <blind> oh is that it.
[04:29] <Apostle^> _jason: i have it on my breezy machine also
[04:29] <Apostle^> actually
[04:30] <eth0> slackgen: the second partition is only like 1.5 gigs
[04:30] <Apostle^> _jason: i'm done with this debate thanks.
[04:30] <_jason> Apostle^: packages.ubuntu.com has the package mdf2iso only on dapper.  Maybe it has a different name?
[04:30] <eth0> slackgen: if you mean the extended partition
[04:30] <_jason> Apostle^: debate?
[04:30] <Apostle^> _jason: yea this debate with "blind"
[04:30] <Apostle^> and now you are a part of it
[04:30] <blind> I really think you take things too personally and seriously.
[04:31] <_jason> I don't understand what's going on... but ok
[04:31] <the_guy1> you got to love a good bandwith war
[04:31] <michael__> wondering if anyone could please tell me what would be the number to me windows my default when i have it like kernl 12, then 12 safe mode, then 9 then 9 safe mode then memtest then windows. any ideas
[04:31] <Apostle^> you've got to love somone who can't mind their own business also
[04:31] <jramsey> does KERNELDIR or KINCLUDE have to exported in order to build a kernel from scratch? i'm getting the output at http://pastebin.ca/52328
[04:31] <michael__> for default on grub
[04:31] <zhao> hey guys
[04:32] <Apostle^> zhao: hello
[04:32] <zhao> i need some help with installation
[04:32] <Apostle^> whats the problem!!?
[04:32] <blind> Arguing in a public channel kinda makes it everyone's business..
[04:32] <zhao> i've tried installing ubuntu 4 times already
[04:32] <slackgen> eth0: okay you need to delete the second partition and then resize the linux one and make a new, empty one to install windows on.
[04:32] <zhao> and still can't install
[04:32] <blind> zhao: why not?
[04:32] <zhao> well
[04:32] <blind> What error[s]  do you get?
[04:32] <zhao> thanks for helping btw
[04:32] <eth0> slackgen: so i might be able to do it without a live cd?
[04:32] <zhao> i can't get ubuntu to recognize the partition i made
[04:32] <slackgen> eth0: the easiest way to do this is to use this: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:32] <zhao> you see
[04:32] <zhao> i'm a gamer
[04:33] <zhao> so, i have 2 raptors in RAID
[04:33] <Apostle^> i see
[04:33] <slackgen> eth0: i dont think so. im sorry. ive never tried it myself
[04:33] <zhao> i've tried partitioning it in PartitionMagic
[04:33] <Apostle^> zhao: try to keep it on one line please.
[04:33] <zhao> okay
[04:33] <michael__> partion magic is a new harddrive just waiting
[04:33] <zhao> i've tried partitioning it to give linux a 15 gig partition, and a 2 gigabyte swap partition
[04:33] <eth0> slackgen: so i use that instead of the 650mb one?
[04:34] <zhao> but when i pop in the ubuntu CD, its not "seeing" the empty partition and instead wants to completely reformat my raptors
[04:34] <Apostle^> zhao: no need for 2gigabyte swap, one at the max
[04:34] <Apostle^> zhao: what format did you make the 'linux partition' ?
[04:34] <Rounin> Hi... After I instaled Opera, apt-get refuses to resolve dependencies, and if I run apt-get -f installed to repair it, it suggests removing Opera. Any way I can get it to not check dependencies for Opera?
[04:34] <zhao> Ext 2
[04:34] <Apostle^> hm...
[04:34] <zhao> I've tried Ext 3 as well
[04:34] <slackgen> eth0: this is a cd that contains just partitioning software, it is smaller and does only the job of partitioning. after that pop your windows cd in and you're set
[04:34] <Apostle^> i really don't suggest using partition magic as it sucks.
[04:34] <eth0> micheal: is it not reccomended then?
[04:34] <Mark987> I'm trying 6.06 b2, is there a way to stop the installer of doing DHCP requests (on eth0) endlessly during install? (on vmware server beta)?
[04:35] <Apostle^> zhao: i would go with a ubuntu live-cd or gparted live-cd
[04:35] <zhao> oh, is there another partitioner software you recommend?
[04:35] <zhao> but what if i wanted to actually install ubuntu? does this have anything to do with my RAID array
[04:35] <Apostle^> zhao: gparted
[04:35] <zhao> gparted
[04:35] <Madpilot> zhao, the Ubuntu installer can handle partitioning quite well
[04:35] <zhao> cool
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> just be carefull with it.
[04:35] <Apostle^> but yes, the ubuntu partitioner is as good as any
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:36] <zhao> yes, however, its seeing my raptors as individual drives, and not one drive like i want it to
[04:36] <Mark987> I left the installer timeout on the DHCP requests and went out to play outside with the kids... 3h later, the installer's still stuck there
[04:36] <zhao> and the ubuntu partitioner, partitions the drives first, then creates the RAID
[04:36] <Apostle^> zhao: i have no raid/linux experience sorry .
[04:36] <eth0> slackgen: and it'll partition disks that are already in use?
[04:36] <eth0> slackgen: is this dangerous?
[04:37] <Mark987> and it'll always timeout, as I don't use/run DHCP (all static)
[04:37] <slackgen> eth0: the livecd wont mount the partitions in the first place. it is perfectly... well mostly safe
[04:37] <eth0> slackgen: ah i see
[04:37] <zhao> well, thanks for your help anyways
[04:37] <zhao> i'll try using the gparted partitioner and see what that will do
[04:37] <eth0> slackgen: because with fdisk you have to delete the partitions to make new ones
[04:38] <the_guy1> nothings ever completly safe
[04:38] <slackgen> eth0: gparted can resize partitions, and thats what you should do it will just make the linux partition smaller
[04:38] <michael__> anyone understand how to edit the grub with 7 different possible boots on there?
[04:38] <zhao> is there any other noob friendly linux distros out there you particularly like?
[04:38] <slackgen> mepis is nice
[04:38] <zhao> mepis
[04:38] <Apostle^> this is the most newbie freindly..
[04:38] <zhao> i've heard its very good
[04:38] <Apostle^> lol.
[04:38] <eth0> slackgen: ok, thanks v. much i'll give it a go once i get a blank cd
[04:38] <Mark987> zhao ubuntu is pretty good (or kubuntu for the kde folks)... lots of them
[04:39] <zhao> what about mandriva?
[04:39] <Apostle^> eww
[04:39] <slackgen> eth0: alright good luck
[04:39] <Apostle^> mandriva is bad
[04:39] <Mark987> even knoppix livecd is fun and easy
[04:39] <eth0> slackgen: thanks :)
[04:39] <zhao> bad? in what manners?
[04:39] <zhao> just not... good?
[04:39] <Apostle^> just not good
[04:39] <Apostle^> ubuntu is much better
[04:39] <sixtymhz> Anything rpm is bad.  =] 
[04:39] <Mark987> I'm just hoping to get ubuntu installing tonite hehe
[04:39] <zhao> yeah, i would love to use ubuntu, its the partitioning thats killing me
[04:39] <slackgen> sixtymhz: i concur
[04:39] <Mark987> nah, partitionning was a non issue...
[04:39] <sixtymhz> paritioning?
[04:39] <Mark987> i got network problems with it
[04:40] <sixtymhz> What network problems?
[04:40] <Mark987> installer won't go past the DHCP request timeout
[04:40] <sixtymhz> Wireless ?
[04:40] <Mark987> nope
[04:40] <juanzhewudi> there is less difference betteem diffrent linux distro,zhao, all depends on your preferance. ubuntu is a easy to use and manager one
[04:40] <Mark987> it times out as I don't run/use DHCP
[04:40] <Mark987> and it won't go past that
[04:40] <Mark987> that's v6.06 beta 2
[04:40] <zhao> yeah, juanzhewudi, its because of the apt-get right?
[04:40] <sixtymhz> hrmm, I never ran into that issue.  Have you tried the ubuntuforums.org?
[04:40] <Mark987> not yet
[04:41] <Mark987> i just killed the entire VM and I'll restart the install *crosses fingers*
[04:41] <sixtymhz> I would search there... I have found TONS of my problems and fixes there.
[04:41] <Apostle^> Mark987: i use static, and for me it just goes past it ...
[04:41] <Apostle^> Mark987: oh it's a VM ?
[04:41] <zhao> oh, i have another pressing issue
[04:41] <Mark987> k thanks
[04:41] <sixtymhz> Yeah do a static.
[04:41] <Mark987> vm as virtual machine... in vmware server beta
[04:41] <zhao> how is the hardware compatibility with linux?
[04:41] <zhao> i have pretty bleeding edge hardware
[04:41] <Mark987> ubuntu has some of the best hardware support IMHO
[04:41] <zhao> if anyone is interested
[04:41] <sixtymhz> zhao : What do you consider bleeding edge?
[04:42] <zhao> i can list out my hardware and you can tell me if it is compatibilty or not
[04:42] <Apostle^> umm probably not
[04:42] <zhao> well, first off, DFI [UT]  Lanparty SLI-DR Expert, really picky mobo
[04:42] <Mark987> knoppix was pretty good too, but most other distros give me headaches supporting something
[04:42] <Apostle^> very new video cards arent supported
[04:42] <zhao> eVGA 7800GT
[04:42] <Apostle^> yea that isn't supported im sure
[04:42] <zhao> AMD Opteron 148 OC'ed to 3.1 ghz
[04:42] <Apostle^> please don't list all your hardware lol
[04:42] <zhao> lol, bragging rights
[04:43] <Apostle^> in the linux community no one cares
[04:43] <TeamCanada|Silen> zhao, you're the reason I cut myself
[04:43] <TeamCanada|Silen> ... and what's in the hda5 partition?
[04:43] <slackgen> zhao: well guess what? i am on a pentium ii 233 mhz with 128 ram BEAT THAT
[04:44] <Apostle^> haha
[04:44] <slackgen> oh.. you already did
[04:44] <zhao> lol... thats damn right old school
[04:44] <TeamCanada|Silen> slackgen, AMD K-6 333mhz 256 RAM lol
[04:44] <Apostle^> not as old school as my p1
[04:44] <zhao> the oldest thing i have is a 486
[04:44] <slackgen> woohoo. its fluxbox for me
[04:44] <zhao> it runs windows 95
[04:44] <filip> zhao, i have ubuntu running on the non-sli version of that board without any problems
[04:44] <zhao> still works too... surprising
[04:44] <Mark987> geez, lots of old clunkers :p
[04:44] <MisterN> n8
[04:44] <Mark987> i got rid of everything under 2GHz a couple of years ago
[04:44] <zhao> well... thats actually really reassuring filip
[04:44] <zhao> ooo! i have a pentium 1 too
[04:45] <zhao> doesn't even have PCI slots
[04:45] <Apostle^> Mark987: my other workhorse is a 1ghz celeron :-=p
[04:45] <slackgen> i dont have anything ABOVE 2 ghz...
[04:45] <zhao> still uses ISA cards
[04:45] <Mark987> ouch
[04:45] <sixtymhz> Yeah... kinda funny how the linux community works.  Who cares if you can get it running on the newest stuff... its what you have that the is the most outdated thats the most impressive. haha... good stuff.
[04:45] <zhao> has a bleeding edge 14.4 modem
[04:45] <Apostle^> this is 4.27 ghz
[04:45] <Apostle^> pentium 4 extreme
[04:45] <filip> zhao, are you being sarcastic?
[04:45] <zhao> no
[04:45] <Mark987> i'm looking at updating one... but it's frustrating
[04:45] <zhao> i was actually being serious
[04:45] <Mark987> can't find what i want/need
[04:46] <sixtymhz> 14.4 modem isnt even cutting egde when you have using the old school 3200 bauds
[04:46] <zhao> because I don't think there would be that big of a difference between that mobo and the one i have right now filip
[04:46] <Mark987> I need WAY more IO, but only expensive server mobos seem to offer it
[04:46] <TeamCanada|Silen> Mark, if you need new comp advice, I'm the person to pm
[04:46] <Quan-Time> i currently have a game (q3) on my USB caddy,, i installed the q3linux in default location of /usr/local/games/quake3 and i need to copy my folder over, with all my configs / maps etc.. is it just cp [SOURCE]  [DESTINATION]  ?!?
[04:46] <zhao> hahaha... thats before my time
[04:46] <zhao> i'm only 17
[04:46] <Mark987> and nice processors are too expensive (waiting for the conroe as it stands0
[04:46] <filip> i have a 7800gt and it gives me no problems either... although you will have to install nvidia drivers from text mode before you can get into a graphical interface
[04:46] <TeamCanada|Silen> conroe will be expensive
[04:46] <zhao> wait, apostle, you have a 4.27 ghz processor
[04:46] <Apostle^> zhao: yea?
[04:46] <Mark987> well, 300 some $ for the one I saw
[04:46] <zhao> yeah... well... conroe could go either way
[04:47] <zhao> did you oc that baby?
[04:47] <Mark987> 2.4GHz IIRC
[04:47] <sharpy> is there a way to install firefox-mplayer without installing mplayer-386?
[04:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> but it does look very nice
[04:47] <zhao> from what stock?
[04:47] <Apostle^> a little
[04:47] <Apostle^> 3.8
[04:47] <zhao> a little
[04:47] <filip> i oc'd my 3000+ to 4500+
[04:47] <zhao> good response!
[04:47] <Mark987> will be faster than a FX60 too
[04:47] <fid> does anyone know if they ever ported the XiRCON irc client for linux?
[04:47] <baconbacon> sharpy, why
[04:47] <Mark987> ...which right now costs WAY more than 300$
[04:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> 64 or xp?
[04:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> filip
[04:47] <Apostle^> i don't like amd
[04:47] <filip> 64, s939
[04:47] <zhao> you don't like AMD apostle?!?
[04:47] <TeamCanada|Silen> what speed?
[04:47] <slackgen> i like via myself
[04:47] <zhao> ooo!!! thats... blasphemous
[04:48] <baconbacon> sharpy: you could apt-get install with force no dependencies i guess, but firefox-mplayer without mplayer would be pretty useless no
[04:48] <zhao> though... the conroe will be nice
[04:48] <Mark987> i don't mind either companies... as long as it's not netburst based (although I have a couple nbetburst POSes)
[04:48] <zhao> from the preliminary view, it finally looks like intel is getting its head back into its game
[04:48] <sixtymhz> zhao: If it makes you feel better, the 4gig ram, duel Xeon 2.5ghz with a nvidia quad 4 runs nicely on Ubuntu with the 686 SMP kernel.
[04:48] <Apostle^> i've always been an intel guy
[04:48] <zhao> sixtymhz.... thats... sexy... one word....
[04:48] <Apostle^> i don't reallly like nvidia either
[04:49] <zhao> lol... i've always been partial to nvidia
[04:49] <sixtymhz> I love nvidia for linux.  Dont know why.  Had a lot of success with it.
[04:49] <Madpilot> folks, random hardware chatter should probably move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[04:49] <TeamCanada|Silen> zhao, commas are easier
[04:49] <Mark987> TeamCanada|Silen yeah... been looking at some hardware. I don't really need super CPU power, and I don't care about 3D stuff
[04:49] <sharpy> baconbacon, i already have mplayer installed. But i compiled it my own way. I dont want mplayer-386 to override my installation.
[04:49] <zhao> hahaha, true that, ,,,,,,
[04:49] <TeamCanada|Silen> I'm the one to talk to
[04:49] <Mark987> sheesh, forgot the /msg lol
[04:49] <zhao> i have an obssesion with ellipses
[04:50] <Apostle^> ellipse?
[04:50] <sharpy> baconbacon, sudo apt-get intall force no dependencies firefox-mplayer ?
[04:50] <sixtymhz> Madpilot : What hardware running on Ubuntu isnt off topic.  :)  Im trying to stay on it... hard to stay on it someitmes.  We are geeks. =] 
[04:50] <baconbacon> sharpy: let me check man page
[04:50] <noisy_1> there
[04:51] <filip> i'm having problems with libflash-mozplugin - it crashes firefox when i hit a page with flash. any alternatives?
[04:51] <Madpilot> sixtymhz, "does <random hardware> work in Ubuntu?" is ontopic - "I like <random hardware>" isn't
[04:51] <sn9> filip: flashplugin-nonfree
[04:52] <filip> it stalls on install
[04:52] <noisy_1> Mark, hardware can be overclocked too, if you need to work on a budget
[04:52] <akrowne> i kind of fixed the problem
[04:52] <sn9> filip: which arch?
[04:52] <Mark987> nah, it's not really a CPU power thing
[04:52] <akrowne> i had to change my locale back to iso-88591
[04:52] <filip> the one from repo
[04:52] <sixtymhz> Madpilot : Yes Mr. Burger
[04:52] <zhao> well... mac and cheese time for me, good talking to you guys, thanks for all the help, bye!
[04:52] <sn9> filip: which architecture?
[04:52] <sixtymhz> l8r zhao
[04:52] <noisy_1> you running a server, need ram?
[04:53] <baconbacon> sharpy: if you installed mplayer your own way .... you could figure out how dpkg or apt-get install with ignore dependencies
[04:53] <noisy_1> what would you be using it for?
[04:53] <sharpy> baconbacon, umm..i suppose so. Let me find out more about apt-get then with no dependencies.
[04:53] <apikoros> i get a segmentation fault when i try to run giFToxic on ubuntu hoary... where should i report this?
[04:54] <filip> sn9, the package "will download flash_linux.tar.gz archive from macromedia" ... the site has been down for a few days though
[04:54] <roofles> hey so how do i make it so i boot to my ubuntu
[04:54] <sn9> filip: worked for me this week
[04:54] <roofles> drive
[04:54] <filip> sn9, i don't understand what you mean when you say which arch
[04:54] <roofles> when i installed windows the ubuntu got disabled
[04:54] <Apostle^> roofles: what do you mean
[04:54] <Apostle^> roofles: you need to fix grub
[04:55] <roofles> how?
[04:55] <apikoros> roofles, you need to boot with a cd and reinstall grub
[04:55] <sn9> filip: i386, amd64, powerpc
[04:55] <roofles> oh k
[04:55] <roofles> thanks
[04:55] <jramsey> !grub
[04:55] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:55] <Apostle^> their is a guide to the bug in the install cd which you can use to reinstal grub
[04:55] <Apostle^> i used it, it works fine
[04:55] <filip> sn9, i'm running i386 on amd64 because i wanted to stay away from problems with amd64
[04:55] <apikoros> roofles, keep in mind you'll have to mount and chroot into your ubuntu installation
[04:55] <Apostle^> apikoros: not true
[04:55] <roofles> chroot?
[04:56] <Apostle^> roofles: hold on i'll find it for you, do you have your ubuntu install cd?
[04:56] <Mark987> geez, one has to register to PM? didn't know... (first time on freenode)
[04:56] <apikoros> Apostle^, you don't? hm.
[04:56] <Apostle^> apikoros: no
[04:56] <apikoros> Mark987, does wonders to curb spam
[04:56] <filip> sn9, i686 is i386, right?
[04:56] <Mark987> i suppose
[04:56] <sn9> right
[04:56] <Apostle^> apikoros: you can do it all from the ubuntu install cd
[04:56] <Mark987> so now i gotta pick a real nick and all *sigh*
[04:56] <Apostle^> filip: i686 is for dualcore processors
[04:56] <Apostle^> or p4's with ht
[04:56] <apikoros> i guess grub reads menu.lst from the root partition every time it loads anyways
[04:56] <Apostle^> such as mine ;-p
[04:57] <sn9> filip: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree
[04:57] <noisy_1> yeah... I had to change nick and identify
[04:57] <sn9> filip: you're on 5.10, right?
[04:57] <Mark987> sad part is I only noticed the notices after trying to PM noisy_1 / TeamCanada like 25 times lol
[04:57] <noisy_1> hehe
[04:57] <filip> sn9, Linux digirat 2.6.15-21-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Apr 21 16:43:33 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:57] <noisy_1> register, its easy
[04:57] <Mark987> i know, i'm just lazy
[04:58] <noisy_1> aren't we all?
[04:58] <sn9> filip: so Dapper Drake, then?
[04:58] <filip> yes
[04:58] <Mark987> and picking a half decent nick (instead of this totally random one) takes me like 3 days ;)
[04:58] <noisy_1> this one took 5 seconds, can you tell?
[04:58] <Mark987> hehe
[04:59] <filip> when i apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree i get:
[04:59] <filip> Unpacking flashplugin-nonfree (from .../flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.63.3ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
[04:59] <filip> Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.63.3ubuntu1) ...
[04:59] <filip> and it stalls right there
[04:59] <JohnSmith> not taken, wow! :p
[04:59] <sn9> filip: you may have to wait until macromedia fixes their site, but i don't think it's down, because it worked for me this week
[04:59] <JohnSmith> oops, too good to be true eh
[04:59] <noisy_1> try JohnDoe
[05:00] <apikoros> anyone? gifTOxic gives a seg fault when i install it.. where can i report this?
[05:00] <filip> until then i have to go without flash?
[05:00] <apikoros> rather, when i try to run it after install.
[05:00] <sn9> filip: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree
[05:00] <baconbacon> apikoros: check launchpad,
[05:00] <filip> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: flashplugin-nonfree is broken or not fully installed
[05:01] <try_it_over> hi all
[05:01] <sn9> filip: in that case, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:01] <FCB> geez, even that's taken :(
[05:01] <filip> Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.63.3ubuntu1) ...
[05:01] <filip> 
[05:01] <filip> stalls
[05:01] <try_it_over> i installed nvidia drivers : nvidia-glx , and them my pc just stop working!!!
[05:01] <try_it_over> so i uninstalled it
[05:01] <Mark987> beh
[05:02] <Mark987> too bad, registering will be for another day
[05:02] <sn9> filip: try removing the package and installing the one from breezy
[05:02] <noisy_1> "/nick Teh_Win"
[05:02] <try_it_over> and tryed the official drivers from: www.nvidia.com, and i got crash again
[05:02] <filip> sn9, how?
[05:03] <sn9> sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-nonfree
[05:03] <try_it_over> the driver nv works fine, but i got the following error --->Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:03] <sn9> use your web browser to download the breezy package
[05:03] <sn9> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:03] <noisy_1> how do I check what files are on a particular partition? Do I have to mount it?
[05:03] <try_it_over> can anyone help me? i think the nvidia install broked some files, so i d like to know witch packages i should reinstall
[05:04] <filip> where do i find the breezy package though?
[05:04] <noisy_1> wow... nevermind
[05:04] <try_it_over> my error is --->Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:04] <sn9> filip: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:04] <Quan-Time> im copying over my q3 install from my USB caddy, and cp -t [source]  [destination]  is omitting the directories.. its only copying files.. whats the exact way i should be doing it ? cheers
[05:04] <try_it_over> what can i do guys?
[05:04] <noisy_1> -R?
[05:04] <noisy_1> quan
[05:05] <ice_1963> i installed flashplayer in dapper last night but it was a deb file :)
[05:05] <noisy_1> man cp
[05:05] <try_it_over> please i need help here
[05:06] <noisy_1> Quan-Time: cp -R[whatever else you want]  [source]  [destination] 
[05:06] <sethk> try_it_over, reinstall the nvidia driver
[05:06] <Quan-Time> noisy_1, cheers ;)
[05:06] <sn9> quick question: is there a channel for requesting a backport?
[05:06] <sethk> try_it_over, then try dpkg-reconfigure of X
[05:07] <sethk> try_it_over, xorg-xserver I think is the name for dpkg-reconfigure
[05:07] <jramsey> try_it_over, do u have /etc/X11/XF86Config ??
[05:08] <filip> sn9, i found it on there, but they only have a .tar.gz
[05:08] <sn9> filip: just a sec
[05:08] <Quan-Time> noisy_1, permission denied.. its copying to /usr/local/games/quake3 and i tried sudo and it just sits there doing nothing
[05:09] <try_it_over> no i have xorg
[05:10] <apikoros> do bug reports filed in launchpad actually show up in some mailing list or recently submitted bugs, or do they wait for half an eternity for someone to stumble across them?
[05:10] <try_it_over> the problem is, i installed nvidia drivers and my pc crashs, now i wanna the old NV driver back, and i got the error --> lib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:10] <sn9> filip: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.25-5ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[05:10] <jramsey> try_it_over, fgrep glx /etc/X11/* and make sure the linx Load "glx" isn't commented out
[05:10] <jramsey> line
[05:10] <try_it_over> jramsey, it isnt commented out
[05:11] <jramsey> hmmm
[05:11] <try_it_over> jramsey, i think glx is broken
[05:11] <try_it_over> jramsey, i wanna know what packages i should reinstall
[05:12] <jramsey> try_it_over, this may help http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/2004-01/thread00059-0.html
[05:12] <cornernote_> hello, i have an xorg.conf question... i have got my ATI card working with dual spanning screens, and now i want to get firefox to span across both in fullscreen mode... it just locks onto 1 screen and wont go any bigger... can anyone help me with some suggestions to change in xorg.conf so that X Windows thinks that its 1 big monitor and not 2 joined monitors ?
[05:13] <cornernote_> basically i want to make all the windows maximize across both screens... although most people dont want this and have had it as a bug, i cant get it to happen
[05:13] <AskHL> cornernote_, sorry I can't tell you how, but why would you want to do that? Just curious...
[05:14] <AskHL> I mean, it has to be kind of irritating with a seperation in the middle of the display
[05:14] <cornernote_> AskHL: its for a 2 screen kiosk application
[05:14] <AskHL> Ok
[05:14] <AskHL> Makes sense :)
[05:14] <zyphrexi> howdy
[05:14] <cornernote_> its not something anyone would want for a desktop...  but its perfect for my application
[05:15] <filip> sn9, dpkg -i tells me that it depends on libruby, but i have libruby installed
[05:15] <zyphrexi> what's up?
[05:15] <sethk> cornernote_, you have one big logical screen, and you can have windows spanning both monitors?
[05:15] <sn9> filip: what version?
[05:16] <filip> sn9, i don't know the command to check
[05:16] <sn9> filip: dpkg -l libruby
[05:16] <cornernote_> sethk: at this point i have a spanned screen with 2 monitors.. i can move mouse, windows, etc from one to the other, but when i click maximize then it only fills 1 screen
[05:16] <sharpy> baconbacon, there was an easy way to install the mplayer plugin. :-)
[05:17] <filip> well, i just installed it through adept
[05:17] <s|k> hi
[05:17] <cornernote_> i used this xorg.conf file to get to where i am now: http://mg.pov.lt/xorg.conf
[05:17] <zyphrexi> hello s|k
[05:17] <try_it_over> jramsey, i am reinstalling xorg-core, so i ll get GLcore back and glx
[05:17] <sharpy> is there a site where i can test my mplayer plugin??
[05:17] <filip> sn9, nvm. i'm an idiot
[05:18] <jmg> cornernote_: can you drag windows from one to another? sounds like twinview
[05:18] <filip> sn9, Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.25-5ubuntu0.1) ...
[05:18] <filip> Checking new upstream release...
[05:18] <filip> I: checking http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/...
[05:18] <filip> E: Unknown HTTP error: fpdownload.macromedia.com
[05:18] <filip> E: All failed.
[05:18] <try_it_over> jramsey, i think that xorg core was broken by www.nvidia.com drivers
[05:18] <zyphrexi> tango is purty
[05:18] <luciano> I installed ubuntu just now .And my firefox version 1.0.8.I install the extension Tab Mix Plus.But middlemouse doesn't work.
[05:19] <cornernote_> jmg: yes.. i can drag windows across the 2 screens
[05:19] <Android_D> what is a good application for ubuntu for recording video files from a webcam stream?
[05:19] <luciano> can anybody help me?
[05:19] <jmg> cornernote_: thats the best it gets
[05:20] <tingping> hi, how do i shutdown the system at 1pm exactly with shutdown command in console ?
[05:20] <cornernote_> jmg: i dont want to make it better... i just want a tweak so that it doesnt maximize to a single screen... i have seen people have this "problem" and try to resolve it... but for me its not a problem - its the solution :)   i just cant get it
[05:20] <tingping> i tried typing sudo shutdown -h 13:00 shutting down at 1pm , followed by return button but it doesn't seem to be working.
[05:20] <Glutinous> tingping, 'at 1pm shutdown -h now'
[05:21] <Andrew-buntu> tingping, "shutdown 01:00" should do it.
[05:21] <Glutinous> actually... that way is better
[05:21] <Glutinous> hehe
[05:21] <tingping> ...
[05:21] <Andrew-buntu> ah, the time is wrong, it's "shutdown 13:00"
[05:21] <tingping> dont try to be funny glutinous
[05:21] <sn9> filip: looks like the site is down after all
[05:21] <tingping> that will cause my system to shutdown immediately
[05:21] <Cooner750> Is there any TV tuner software for ubuntu?
[05:21] <tingping> andrew, so i typed shutdown 13:00 ?
[05:22] <Andrew-buntu> yep
[05:22] <Glutinous> tingping, im not? that is a real command
[05:22] <Andrew-buntu> and Glut was right, too.  The "at" means you wouldn't do it right now.
[05:22] <tingping> ok
[05:22] <zcat[1] > umm; echo "shutdown +5" | at 13:00
[05:23] <Andrew-buntu> yeah, now that's just getting complicated :)
[05:23] <zcat[1] > unless at's behaviour has shanged..
[05:23] <zyphrexi> i usually use halt...
[05:23] <zyphrexi> supposedly that's bad though
[05:23] <zcat[1] > ok; echo "halt" | at 13:00
[05:24] <jmg> cornernote_: sorry i am not lucky enough to have used twinview only had xinerama
[05:24] <Andrew-buntu> Is it 1:00 already?
[05:24] <zcat[1] > at takes the commands to run on stdin, not the command line
[05:24] <Andrew-buntu> Right on, I was just saying "shutdown 13:00" would've done it.
[05:24] <Glutinous> yea ok... i hardly use it :)
[05:25] <Quan-Time> ok. got q3 on and working,, .pitty about the 16fps lag.. i suspect my nvidia drivers aint working properly, how can i check ?
[05:25] <Andrew-buntu> glxinfo |grep direct
[05:25] <Andrew-buntu> If it says "yes", nvidia is working properly
[05:25] <zcat[1] > shutdown -h 13:00 is better, anyone logged in will get plenty of warning.
[05:26] <cornernote_> jmg: its not actually twinview.. its the same but different.  :)   the only difference is that it uses the ATI driver... i think nVidia are the only ones who call it twinview
[05:26] <sn9> filip: wait, the site just started working! do the 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree' again
[05:26] <cornernote_> but with xinerima, can you make windows maximize to fill both windows ?
[05:27] <Quan-Time> ok so its working
[05:27] <Quan-Time> yay me
[05:27] <Quan-Time> but that dont explain why its running like a bag of poo
[05:27] <filip> sn9, failed again
[05:27] <filip> haha
[05:28] <sn9> keep trying, it'll work eventually
[05:28] <filip> i don't really have much of a choice
[05:28] <cornernote_> is there any xorg.conf experts in the room ?
[05:28] <sharpy> how do I get mozilla-dev pkg? >= 1.6 version?
[05:28] <odin_> is there some kind of codec restriction or something for Kino?  I can't seem to open at least .avi files, though I haven't been able to test anything else out
[05:28] <farous> anyone know how can i add a quota or limit for users upload and download from the net?
[05:28] <sharpy> i can get 1.0.8 but that wont do.
[05:28] <farous> is there a how to for that
[05:30] <sn9> sharpy: how do you know? have you tried it?
[05:30] <sharpy> sn9, instructions tell me that mplayer-plugin WILL NOT work with 1.0.8
[05:30] <sharpy> http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/install.php
[05:30] <Luke> anyone know any good apts to add audio to a video file?
[05:31] <MuchoMacho> hello
[05:31] <ocult> hello
[05:31] <MuchoMacho> i need help
[05:31] <ocult> i too
[05:31] <Luke> odin_: have you found an answer yet? i've been trying to get kino working for hours
[05:31] <sn9> sharpy: ignore them
[05:31] <MuchoMacho> i have a sound card realtek alc880 and dont work
[05:32] <ocult> MuchoMacho, i have one realtek ac`97  and have problem too
[05:32] <sharpy> sn9, u sure? have u tried this?
[05:32] <sharpy> sn9, http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/install.php#plugin
[05:33] <jason> can anyone help me with the server version?
[05:33] <sn9> the mplayerplug-in in the repository works, and i know for a fact that ubuntu mozilla version numbers are meaningless
[05:34] <jason> i just installed the server release, and it starts with the command line vide the graphical interface... is this normal?  I can't find a manual or help on the server release...
[05:34] <sharpy> sn9, so I can actually apt-get the mplayerplugin then.. The thing is ..if I do...then it will ALSO get mplayer-386. And i dont want mplayer-386. Is there a way to NOT get mplayer-386?
[05:34] <jramsey> anyone know the pkg name for QT ??
[05:34] <sharpy> sn9, just the mplayer plugin.
[05:35] <FearMoth> is there a package that I can install that provides all the tools to compile and install modules, software etc?
[05:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jason: The server install is CLI-only, yes.
[05:35] <Mark987> command line vide?
[05:35] <sn9> sharpy: for me, if you get mplayer-686 or mplayer-k7, the 386 version isn't pulled in
[05:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> FearMoth: 'build-essential'
[05:35] <FearMoth> thanks
[05:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> np
[05:35] <jason> is there a way to start the graphical interface? or does that require a package install?
[05:36] <Mark987> dunno if x is even installed...
[05:36] <Mark987> startx might work
[05:36] <Flannel> jason: no, it's not installed.  You'll need to install it.
[05:36] <jason> i tried, doesn't, thanks
[05:36] <farous> jason you need to have xdm kdm or gdm installed
[05:36] <sharpy> sn9, hmm.. for me it's a different story. I typed: apt-get install mplayer-mozilla and BAM! it tells me it will install mplayer-386.
[05:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jason: You can install however much you want, but X and a desktop environment aren't included in the server install.
[05:36] <Flannel> jason: install ubuntu-desktop to install the normal ubuntu shindig.
[05:36] <Mark987> figures. barebones, less overhead on the servcer
[05:36] <jason> i'm used to red hat, still getting the hang of debian
[05:37] <sn9> sharpy: you're on breezy, right?
[05:37] <Flannel> jason: or you can pick through x packages piecewise.  If you just want barebones X, or if you want some other WM
[05:37] <sharpy> sn9, breezy 5.10 i believe.
[05:37] <filip> sn9, site just went up, i got my file, and my flash now works. thankyou
[05:37] <jason> i guess i could install desktop and then install all the servers from there...
[05:37] <Flannel> jason: you can just use apt-get or aptitude
[05:37] <jason> is there any guidance on what the server release contains?
[05:37] <Flannel> aptitude is an ncurses based frontend
[05:38] <MuchoMacho> i have a sound card realtek alc880 and dont work... helpppp
[05:38] <sn9> sharpy: are you using the apt-get or synaptic?
[05:38] <Mark987> ubuntu's mirrors are amazingly fast... i was blown away this morning when i downloaded that 6.06 beta
[05:38] <Flannel> jason: I don't believe it contains much by default, just an SSH server, so one could load in everything else remotely.
[05:38] <jason> thanks everyone!
[05:38] <farous> jason: there is a howto for server install on the forums. yet if you intend to use it mainly as desktop i would advise to make regular install will make your life much easier
[05:38] <sharpy> sn9, apt-get BUT if Synaptic can select ONLY mplayer mozilla plugin then by all means.
[05:38] <Mark987> top I saw was 999.1KB/sec - faster than I had ever expected
[05:39] <minerale> what's that social networking site run by google?
[05:39] <sn9> sharpy: i was thinking the opposite
[05:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> minerale: Orkut?
[05:39] <wizzlefish> I'm new to Ubuntu, and I was wondering: I'm going for a dual boot between XP and Ubuntu...should I partition before I insert the Ubuntu Install CD, or will the installation take care of the partitioning for me?
[05:39] <minerale> pumpernickle: thanks, I know that vim's author Braam uses it
[05:40] <sharpy> sn9, hmm right now... it wants to install mplayer-386 no matter what. I compiled mplayer a while ago my own way...and it works perfectly. I dont want ubuntu's compiled mplayer.
[05:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wizzlefish: You can do both.
[05:41] <sharpy> sn9, btw do u know how to clear apt-get memory of what packages it wants to install ?
[05:41] <wizzlefish> which would be easier?
[05:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wizzlefish: And by 'both' I mean 'either'. :)
[05:41] <sn9> sharpy: oh. i thought you installed one of ubuntu's other compiled mplayer pkgs. you're SOL, then
[05:41] <Luke> anyone know any good apts to add audio to a video file?
[05:41] <sharpy> sn9, it seems whenever i type apt-get install anyprogram it wants to isntall other programs like mplayer-386, firefox-dev etc... no relevance to xmms.
[05:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wizzlefish: Depends on what you're familiar with.  Either way is good.
[05:42] <Braz|pizza> woohooo!!! download finished
[05:42] <filip> sharpy , dpkg -r <program name>
[05:42] <Braz|pizza> woohoo! here's a CD!
[05:42] <MuchoMacho> i have a sound card realtek alc880 and dont work... helpppp !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
[05:42] <filip> sharpy, its because the other ones didn't finish installing
[05:42] <sn9> sharpy: sudo apt-get -f remove
[05:43] <sharpy> filip, i dont want them to install.
[05:43] <filip> yes, -r removes them :P
[05:43] <vimusa> hi, how can I disable loading of the wireless driver during startup?
[05:45] <wizzlefish> I'm installing Ubuntu tomorrow
[05:45] <wizzlefish> good night everyone
[05:45] <_darksoul> hi, how can I disable loading of the wireless driver during startup?, well i dont have wireless.. but i would assume taking out the driver would work..
[05:45] <_darksoul> err not driver, but wireless card
[05:46] <average_User> is there an uninstaller in ubuntu?
[05:46] <vimusa> _darksoul: Right. I did that. But when I make an system update it appears again!
[05:46] <Quan-Time> average_User, synapsis ? like that ?
[05:46] <chapium> I get the following error everytime I reboot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13106
[05:46] <sn9> _darksoul: use 'sudo cardctl eject' before taking out a card
[05:46] <Luke> anyone know any good apts to add audio to a video file?
[05:46] <average_User> like how to uninstall a .deb or rpm file
[05:46] <chapium> Anyone know about this?
[05:47] <sn9> average_User: use synaptic
[05:47] <Mark987> what's the big difference between normal and oem install off the first menu anyways?
[05:47] <_darksoul> sn9: its vimusa you sould be talking to
[05:47] <average_User> ok ill try if it removes it..
[05:47] <Mark987> chapium your files are corrupt
[05:47] <chapium> Mark987: why only when i reboot?
[05:48] <chapium> Mark987: booting cold works normally
[05:48] <Mark987> no idea
[05:48] <odin_> how can I tell what the location of cd drive device is?
[05:48] <jramsey> chapium, when booting the linux kernel is compressed and there is an error check (crc) done; it is failing
[05:48] <Mark987> some bug... crc error just means that the CRC doesn't match (just a valid data check)
[05:48] <odin_> Luke:  nope, sorry
[05:48] <sn9> odin_: look inside the computer
[05:49] <_darksoul> odin: go to term, type cd /media/   its all in there
[05:49] <odin_> sn9: isn't there an easier command?
[05:49] <odin_> _darksoul: thanks
[05:49] <_darksoul> odin_: no prob
[05:49] <Mark987> your BIOS should be able to tell you...
[05:49] <ocult> hello ?
[05:49] <sn9> odin_: dmesg|grep -i rom
[05:49] <chapium> Ok, so now I understand the error.  How do I go about fixing it?
[05:49] <Mark987> sec master or sec slave
[05:49] <ocult> How i use superkaramba in gnome ?
[05:50] <chapium> there have been multiple kernel updates, but it doesnt seem to resolve the issue
[05:50] <sn9> ocult: use gdesklets instead
[05:50] <ocult> i want superkaramba
[05:50] <ocult> other persons said it is possible
[05:50] <sn9> ocult: then you'll have to install some K stuff
[05:51] <ocult> i agree =/
[05:51] <try_it_over> ok ok, i got nv working now, i installed xserver-xorg-core again and glx works fine again
[05:52] <try_it_over> but, why in the earth ubuntu freeze when i install nvidia driver? my pc just stop!!!
[05:52] <average_User> how come limewire pro doest work in ubuntu... its an .rpm file then i convert it to .deb and install it and still doesnt work
[05:53] <try_it_over> average_User, sometimes this conversions are not perfect
[05:53] <farous> average_User: download the bin package
[05:54] <farous> average_User: might also there are some dependency prob
[05:54] <farous> though if you have sunjava you should be fine
[05:54] <Luke> anyone know any good apts to add audio to a video file?
[05:54] <average_User> ohh ic but i already loaded it.. maybe it doesnt really work
[05:54] <slackgen> if i installed xubuntu dapper beta now can i upgrade easily when it is released as.. not beta?
[05:55] <Android_D> does anyone here have experience with SCRAP?
[05:55] <crimsun> slackgen: you can track development, yes
[05:55] <sn9> average_User: for limewire, you need the Other package, not the RPM one
[05:55] <ocult> hi
[05:55] <ocult> where find things for gdesklet
[05:57] <slackgen> crimsun: well.. will i have to download the newest cd.. or could i just use apt-get to make it release?
[05:57] <average_User> sn9: the only package for linux is ,rpm file
[05:57] <farous> average_User: there is a source package
[05:57] <crimsun> slackgen: update && dist-upgrade
[05:57] <farous> that is the one you need
[05:57] <slackgen> crimsun: okay thanks
[05:57] <Junglizt1210> ello
[05:58] <sn9> average_User: no, there's another one
[05:58] <Seantater> Is there a way to easily get rid of [at least most of]  xubuntu?
[05:59] <average_User> sn9: ok ill try downloading it... but its ofr solaris or somthin, thanx for d help farous,sn9 and try_it_orver
[05:59] <sn9> that's the one
[05:59] <try_it_over> i remember when i used slackware, everything worked perfectly.... now in ubuntu, i download the stupid nvidia-glx package, and my pc hangs after restart X with nvidia enabled... omg.. why on earth i removed slackaware... so simple, 1 GUY... 1 IDEA... and all Stability u can think of ;-)
[06:00] <slackgen> opera is qt- right?
[06:00] <crimsun> Seantater: remove libxfce4util2
[06:00] <sn9> slackgen: yes
[06:00] <slackgen> darn.
[06:01] <farous> slackgen: works perfectly here under ubuntu :) even the preview ver opera9
[06:01] <doms> php error : Warning: printf() [function.printf] : Too few arguments in /var/www/t.php on line 41
[06:01] <ocult> un
[06:01] <slackgen> farous: oh im sure it does. its just im trying to put Xubuntu on my laptop (233 mhz, 128 ram) and using qt and gtk seems like it would be a little slow
[06:01] <try_it_over> i hope that one day nvidia will employ good linux developers like the windows ones
[06:01] <ocult> my gdeskets is ugly :(
[06:02] <ocult> i want one good
[06:02] <sharpy> !mplayer
[06:02] <ubotu> mplayer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:02] <ocult> have something like full package ?
[06:02] <farous> slackgen: frankly am using fluxbox here found both gnome and kde too slow and bloated
[06:02] <Mark987> wow, how old a box?
[06:03] <Seantater> crimsun: thanks!
[06:03] <slackgen> farous: i was thinking of using xfce with enlightenment. its like a... 1999 dell laptop
[06:03] <Mark987> i don't recall if it was xfce or fluxbox i tried with freebsd... but man whatever that was, it sucked lol
[06:04] <farous> i have a 1ghz old athalon desktop. running opera is a breezy on it under fluxbox. wife running it under gnome no complaints either
[06:04] <slackgen> 1 ghz is far from 233
[06:04] <Mark987> 1ghz isn't so old... perhaps if it's low on RAM or something...
[06:04] <munzir> Hi, If someone use sftp or filezilla or putty to access my server, where can I trace the commands he did? his .bash_history doesn't show them!
[06:05] <Mark987> because gnome/kde run perfectly on a 2GHz PC - even as a livecd, really
[06:05] <Mark987> filezilla might keep logs...
[06:06] <theBishop> is there a good utility for copying the ipod library to my hdd?
[06:06] <farous> slackgen: i remember damn small linux used a really light weight fast browser can not remember the name though if this might help
[06:06] <slackgen> dillo?
[06:06] <farous> ya
[06:06] <slackgen> its fast, but no ssl by default and i like operas mail client. oh well
[06:07] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13107
[06:07] <doms> Warning: printf() [function.printf] : Too few arguments in /var/www/t.php on line 41
[06:07] <farous> good luck then my friend
[06:07] <slackgen> thanks
[06:08] <try_it_over> anyone here got Geforce 4 4000 MX working on ubuntu?
[06:08] <prognosis> I'm trying to do dvdauthoring, but everything seems to rely on newer packages than what is available. How can I get around this?
[06:13] <Android_D> can anyone recommend a webcam app? I am looking at a list of them and trying to determine which I should use.
[06:13] <Android_D> preferably one with a GUI
[06:14] <havien> amsn supports webcams if i remember right
[06:14] <Android_D> but thats just for chat, right?
[06:14] <CokeNCode> hmmm
[06:14] <try_it_over> havien, amsn cant support my webcam, it says it cant support its resolution yet
[06:14] <CokeNCode> why am i having search a hard time viewing youtube vides
[06:14] <CokeNCode> *videos
[06:15] <try_it_over> can u believe in it?
[06:15] <Android_D> I want one for motion capturing, I am going to be documention the behaviour of a rat, and I want to record his movement
[06:15] <CokeNCode> and a bunch of other videos online
[06:15] <CokeNCode> using ubuntu and firefox
[06:15] <FearMoth> in adept, I go to install libxine1c2 and click "request install" but nothing happens. the "requested" action doesn't change from "no change" to "install", and apt-get install libxine1c2 says there's no installation candidate.. any idea why?
[06:15] <mikomiko_> i am experiencing some issue with my firefox, it closes sometimes when i am trying to  open some links
[06:15] <CokeNCode> can anyone point me in the right direction, tell me what plug-ins for firefox i need to be installing ... etc
[06:15] <sethk> Android_D, something special about this rat?
[06:15] <Android_D> no
[06:15] <mikomiko_> I am using ubuntu
[06:15] <Android_D> I am just a cognitive scientist in training and am interested in the general behaviour of a rat in his environment
[06:16] <eugman> Anyone know how i can get the window teminal font?
[06:16] <try_it_over> anyone here knows of any msn client (no amsn please-dont work for me) that i can use with a webcam?
[06:16] <sethk> Android_D, tracking movements is not easy to do
[06:16] <eugman> er the windows terminal font.
[06:16] <Luke> anyone know any good apts to add audio to a video file?
[06:16] <Mark987> on a windows disc or install? ;)
[06:16] <Android_D> sethk: there are several programs for it
[06:16] <sethk> eugman, edit current profile
[06:17] <mikomiko_> Hello, my FireFox windows always close, how do i know if it is experiencing some problems
[06:17] <sethk> Android_D, yes, I know, but I'm not that impressed with them.  are you?
[06:17] <try_it_over> i neEd  mSn WiTh WeBCam!
[06:17] <dj-fu> ol
[06:17] <Android_D> sethk: I am not sure yet. hence why I am asking which I should try out
[06:17] <dj-fu> MsN WiTh WeBCAMm???
[06:17] <dj-fu> ASL??
[06:17] <Android_D> sethk: thinking about CamStream
[06:17] <try_it_over> i ReALlY neEd  mSn WiTh WeBCam!
[06:17] <dj-fu> Please stop typing like that.
[06:17] <dj-fu> It's disturbing
[06:17] <try_it_over> why?
[06:18] <sethk> Android_D, I haven't looked at them for some time.  A scientist I know asked me to look into it but that sort of information gets stale very quickly
[06:18] <try_it_over> its funny, dont u think so?
[06:18] <guest_> could some one help me with this i ahve been working on it fora while.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13108
[06:18] <Krhis> A M$ protocal? Wonder why they don't have a Linux fork....
[06:18] <dj-fu> No. I think Gaim has v4l support for webcams
[06:18] <try_it_over> dj-fu, plugin?
[06:19] <guest_> its my usb-wireless driver
[06:19] <dj-fu> possibly, I don't recall. check the gaim site
[06:19] <try_it_over> i ll ....but if u are wrong.. I wIlL ReTurN!
[06:20] <try_it_over> lol
[06:20] <Krhis> ?
[06:20] <Android_D> sethk: have you heard of ZoneMinder?
[06:20] <sethk> Android_D, no.  have a URL?
[06:20] <havien> Android_D, i just read something about that in the ubuntu forums
[06:21] <Android_D> http://www.zoneminder.com/
[06:21] <Android_D> havien: really? I will search the forums for it then
[06:21] <Quan-Time> im having a bit of trouble with twinview.. as its detecting the wrong video card.. i have 2 PCIe cards. a 7800gtx and 6200. when i leave X its on the 7800gtx, which is 5:0:0 and in X its on the 6200 which is 2:0:0  so can i just change that in the xorg.conf file safely ? coz it has indentifier as 6200.
[06:21] <dj-fu> Nothing is safe.
[06:22] <Quan-Time> im actually wanting 3 monitors all working.. ive seen it done before.
[06:22] <dj-fu> Forget safe, this is linux. Break things 
[06:22] <sethk> Android_D, that's going to give you series of images, but it isn't going to do any analysis for you.
[06:22] <Quan-Time> thats why im asking :)
[06:22] <dj-fu> afaik, xinerama > twinview
[06:22] <Android_D> sethk: what do you mean by analysis?
[06:22] <poningru> !twinview
[06:22] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, poningru
[06:22] <poningru> !xinerama
[06:22] <ubotu> I guess xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[06:22] <sethk> Android_D, figuring out the movements, not just capturing the images
[06:22] <Quan-Time> heh.. i dont want xinerama tho..
[06:23] <sethk> Quan-Time, it's safe to move things around by reasigning the PCI IDs, if that's what you are asking.
[06:23] <Junglizt1210> lol
 Forget safe, this is linux. Break things    <--- hehhe  sounds like an admin.
[06:23] <odin_> does anybody know how to rip an image cd into a .bin using cdrdao without xduplicator?
[06:23] <dj-fu> I'm no admin, I like breaking stuff tough
[06:23] <Quan-Time> sethk, cheers.. thanx ill see how i go
[06:23] <Android_D> sethk: well, I don't mind if it is not motion detective. just as long as I can record the rat while I am away, and then review the video at a later time
[06:23] <dj-fu> without breakage there is no fixage, without fixing there is no learning
[06:23] <sethk> Android_D, for that it looks very good, from reading a bit here.
[06:24] <dli> odin_, image cd?
[06:24] <Android_D> sethk: such files should be too large would they?
[06:24] <intelikey> dj-fu learning if highly over rated.
[06:24] <dj-fu> That's true.
[06:24] <sethk> Android_D, depends of course on the resolution.  there is a huge range
[06:24] <dj-fu> breaking things is much better
[06:24] <odin_> dli: yeah
[06:24] <guest_> i was wondering... not to be rude...when one posts a question on here what is an a_properate amount of time to wait befor restating ur self when no one responds... i always get ignored but i dont want to push people to help me i mean.thats not fair??
[06:24] <sethk> Android_D, for low res the space should be manageable.
[06:25] <dli> odin_, no, I don't don't understand, what do you mean with "image cd"?
[06:25] <dj-fu> if no one answers you, no one likes you
[06:25] <crimsun> guest_: 30 minutes.
[06:25] <dj-fu> ;] 
[06:25] <crimsun> with nearly 700 people, things can get hectic
[06:25] <odin_> dli: a cd that has an image .img file burnt onto it
[06:25] <sethk> Android_D, it depends on how sophisticated the system is, whether it uses some intelligent compression and manages to save the differences, rather than always saving entire images.
[06:25] <odin_> dli:  or .iso, as is more common
[06:25] <Android_D> sethk: well, only one way to find out
[06:25] <MYP> guest_: if you have a question it is ok to repeat it after about 10 mins
[06:25] <sethk> Android_D, yes, go for it
[06:25] <eugman> sethk, what do you mean? I want to know how I can get the teminal font for windows. It's not in msttfcore fonts
[06:25] <MYP> maby even 5
[06:26] <sethk> eugman, oh, I thought you wanted to change the fonts in the terminal window
[06:26] <Olde_Harold> what's up with macromedia........flash player not downloading
[06:26] <Quan-Time> ok i changed monitor.. woot.. now ill follow the guide for making twinview.. then ill try to enable the 2nd video card and 3rd monitor.. can only try really
[06:26] <eneried> !pastebin
[06:26] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:26] <Quan-Time> !info twinview
[06:26] <Quan-Time> !twinview
[06:26] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Quan-Time
[06:26] <filip> flsash player is being gay. give it a lot of tries
[06:26] <sethk> eugman, with one of the font servers you can use the windows fonts directly
[06:26] <dli> odin_, try, kiso
[06:26] <intelikey> guest_ about this long   :)
[06:26] <Quan-Time> gah.. help :)
[06:26] <iceman> Any one know what Macs will run Ubuntu
[06:26] <Olde_Harold> ty filip
[06:27] <sethk> Quan-Time, twinview is nvidia specific, isn't it?
[06:27] <Quan-Time> dun worry
[06:27] <filip> Olde_Harold, it will work, just keep on trying over and over
[06:27] <poningru> iceman: all of them should atleast
[06:27] <Olde_Harold> okay
[06:27] <eugman> sethk, Use directly? Don't you mean get?
[06:27] <Quan-Time> sethk, yup. on it now
[06:27] <sethk> eugman, no, I mean you can put the windows font files onto your box and the font server will render them properly in X
[06:28] <iceman> poningru I know all will not ... but wonder if a old Mac LC might run Ubuntu
[06:28] <sethk> eugman, for truetype fonts, specifically
[06:28] <Olde_Harold> bbl
[06:28] <eugman> right, but how do I get the terminal font in the first place?
[06:29] <sethk> eugman, do you mean, how do you know what font windows is using?
[06:29] <intelikey> sethk just copying tt fonts to ? linux folder makes them usable ?
[06:29] <sethk> intelikey, with a font server, yes.
[06:29] <Madpilot> intelikey, ~/.fonts
[06:29] <intelikey> xfs
[06:30] <intelikey> Madpilot system wide ?
[06:30] <sethk> yes, xfs sounds correct
[06:30] <sethk> it's been a while since I did it.
[06:30] <eugman> all I know is I need to acquire whatever font is used when you set the font in a windows program to terminal.
[06:30] <Madpilot> intelikey, that's for one user - system wide can be put in some other folder, in / - can't remember where offhand
[06:30] <sethk> intelikey, becomes an X font just like all the other x fonts
[06:31] <sethk> eugman, you should be able to set the font for an app, then read the font spec out of the registry
[06:31] <dj-fu> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/Impact.ttf
[06:31] <dj-fu> you have to regenerate the font cache afterwards, iic
[06:31] <Braz|pizza> argh!
[06:31] <Braz|pizza> i can't install ubuntu...
[06:31] <dj-fu> roooar!
[06:31] <dj-fu> smash head into wall, then try
[06:32] <dli> Braz|pizza, be more specific
[06:32] <Braz|pizza> k, so I dled PC (Intel x86) install CD
[06:32] <intelikey> yeah but i kinda like reading  TNR 13    it's a clean text.
[06:32] <Braz|pizza> and burned it to a CD
[06:32] <Braz|pizza> I restart my compie and try to boot from it
[06:32] <Braz|pizza> and nothing...
[06:32] <Quan-Time> q3 works.. like crap.. its chuggy as hell, and slow and stuff.. it SAYS its 125fps, but soon as you move it chunks out
[06:32] <Quan-Time> ideas to try and diagnose it ?
[06:33] <sethk> Braz|pizza, was it an iso image file?
[06:33] <Braz|pizza> yeah
[06:33] <sethk> Braz|pizza, what did you burn it with?
[06:33] <Braz|pizza> http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/5.10/
[06:33] <TehBigOne> whats a .rpm file and how do I execute it :<
[06:33] <Braz|pizza> i extracted it and burned it with the windows burner
[06:33] <Braz|pizza> is that bad?
[06:34] <poningru> Braz|pizza: hehe yeah
[06:34] <sn9> TehBigOne: rpm files are to be avoided
[06:34] <Madpilot> Braz|pizza, you don't extract iso files
[06:34] <Braz|pizza> oh man
[06:34] <poningru> Braz|pizza: that just burns the file to the cd
[06:34] <TehBigOne> oh
[06:34] <sethk> Braz|pizza, not necessarily, but you have to tell the windows burner that you are dealing with an image
[06:34] <poningru> not an image
[06:34] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Braz|pizza about burniso
[06:34] <s1gnal> I have a very nerve racking problem I hope someone can help me with. I did a new install today and while applying updates it got hung on what appears to be trying to install a new kernel. I got tired of waiting and rebooted. I started up synaptic and was greeted with an error message that dpkg did not finish correctly and to run dpkg --configure -a from a terminal window
[06:34] <TehBigOne> How do I install frostwire then :<
[06:34] <sethk> Braz|pizza, otherwise it thinks it's a file, and it's too dumb to look and say "hey, this is an iso"
[06:34] <uberstaten> how do i get the original kernel orinoco wireless drivers?
[06:34] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell TehBigOne about frostwire
[06:34] <poningru> s1gnal: just run that command
[06:35] <TehBigOne> yes, tell me
[06:35] <s1gnal> so it starts again and I am still hung while I am trying to install a new kernel, it has been this way for several hours
[06:35] <Braz|pizza> sethk, what should i use?
[06:35] <poningru> s1gnal: you ran that command?
[06:35] <sethk> s1gnal, did you run the dpkg --configure -a command?
[06:35] <poningru> oh ok
[06:35] <s1gnal> yes
[06:35] <sethk> Braz|pizza, nero can do it, I'm sure there are others also
[06:35] <dli> Braz|pizza, when you burn your CD, try to burn with verification
[06:35] <s1gnal> and I am still hung, I got as far as "Setting up linux-image" blah blah and that is where it has been for about the past 5-6 hours
[06:36] <sethk> s1gnal, no errors when you run it?
[06:36] <s1gnal> no, none
[06:36] <Madpilot> Braz|pizza, see the pm that the bot sent you for more info
[06:36] <Braz|pizza> http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9443/omgf7nb.png
[06:36] <sethk> s1gnal, I would just start the install again.  the alternative is to figure out what's going on, and that can be very difficult if the system was never correct.
[06:36] <s1gnal> are there logs I can look at? I'll admit I am a little lost and frustrated
[06:36] <Braz|pizza> the files are on the CD...
[06:37] <intelikey> this seems anti-secure to me.   a system mounted nosuid one logged in as a user can not su or sudo thus making teaching root from the users console/terminal impossable.  but if you  ssh root@localhost   and know the password you can have a root shell inside your user shell....   seems like a security hole....
[06:37] <dli> Braz|pizza, did you verify data burnt? (the cd creator can do that)
[06:37] <poningru> hmm that should have started the thing
[06:37] <dli> Braz|pizza, it happened to me, quite often, I can only burn at a speed of 4x
[06:38] <Madpilot> intelikey, there's no SSH server installed by default, remember?
[06:38] <poningru> Braz|pizza: so you cant get the cd to boot?
[06:38] <Braz|pizza> no
[06:38] <sethk> intelikey, it's a dumb default, certainly
[06:38] <intelikey> Madpilot yes and root passwd is locked by default and not mounted nosuid   madpilot  :)
[06:39] <Acidic> Do the torrent programs work in text mode? Or are they purely gui?
[06:39] <dj-fu> there is a console only python torrent app
[06:39] <poningru> Acidic: both
[06:39] <dli> intelikey, can you ssh root@localhost ?
[06:39] <intelikey> i can.
[06:39] <luisito> hello
[06:39] <Acidic> poningru: So, basically getting one that doesn't say GUI would work.
[06:39] <Madpilot> intelikey, so, there's a fair number of steps you have to go thru to create your security hole... is that really a bug, or just a user being too clever? ;)
[06:39] <intelikey> dli i can login console as root.   but the passwd is 65 chars.
[06:40] <poningru> Acidic: do you need a list of non gui torrent apps?
[06:40] <dli> Acidic, there are text only bt clients
[06:40] <luisito> I'm thinking of trying Dapper. It is very stable right now?
[06:40] <dj-fu> is sshd installed by default on breezy?
[06:40] <dj-fu> luisito, yes, it is.
[06:40] <dj-fu> probably as stable as an unstable release would get
[06:40] <sethk> luisito, it is beta.  that means don't use it if you want stable
[06:40] <dli> intelikey, if you have to type a passwd, it's not a hole
[06:40] <Acidic> poningru,dli: Well, i see with a cache search that there is a bittornado program there. "Bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface"
[06:40] <intelikey> Madpilot hehhe   my security hole  lol    the defauld security hole is   run sudo -i   and you have the same thing.
[06:40] <Acidic> might that work in a text only environment?
[06:41] <poningru> luisito: its stable enough for home usage
[06:41] <dli> Acidic, curses means text, I think
[06:41] <poningru> yeah
[06:41] <Acidic> ok
[06:41] <Acidic> ill give that a try
[06:41] <Acidic> thankee
[06:41] <dli> Acidic, tell me whether it works
[06:41] <sethk> Acidic, why do you want to run a prerelease?
[06:41] <Acidic> sethk: eh?
[06:41] <luisito> well, i'm not running any servers or working on linux. I really use linux to learn linux. If all my programs work well I don't have any problems to switch then.
[06:42] <sethk> Acidic, sorry, wrong nick
[06:42] <Acidic> sethk, no worries.. sorry :P
[06:42] <sethk> luisito, then why do you want to run the unreleased version instead of the nice stable released version?
[06:42] <intelikey> !autologin-ssh
[06:42] <ubotu> it has been said that autologin-ssh is a script for that is posted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d13057
[06:43] <poningru> luisito: yes its stable enough for that
[06:43] <poningru> its been stable enough for that since february
[06:43] <s1gnal> omfg, I just restarted it and now it's updated. *SIGH* I've been working on this all night.... Now I know :P
[06:43] <luisito> sethk, really you want to know? jeje. I want to see Xgl working. I am verydesperate to see it and try it.
[06:43] <Acidic> dli: I apt-get install'd it but i can't seem to run it :/
[06:43] <sethk> luisito, ok, I guess ...
[06:43] <Android_D> does ubuntu come with MySQL, and ffmpeg or Berkeley MPEG encoder (mpeg_encode)?
[06:44] <odin_> in what dir is X Window?
[06:44] <dli> Acidic, btdownload or something?
[06:44] <sethk> odin_, mostly /usr/X11
[06:44] <odin_> sethk: ah, okay, thx
[06:44] <poningru> Android_D: its a simple command away
[06:44] <Acidic> dli, ? I did apt-get install bittornado
[06:44] <s1gnal> android_d: Im not sure if they are included in the default install, but if they aren't synaptic should be able to get them for you very easily
[06:45] <luisito> so, as always I have to change breezy for dapper in repositories and update/upgrade. Right?
[06:45] <poningru> !tell Android_D about ffmpeg
[06:45] <poningru> hmm
[06:45] <odin_> sethk: is that where the includes and libraries are?
[06:45] <Davey> luisito: dist-upgrade, and #ubuntu+1
[06:45] <s1gnal> next question, anyone here have any experience with freenx? Is there a pre-compiled .deb package?
[06:45] <Android_D> s1gnal: excuse my ignorance, by what is synaptic?
[06:45] <poningru> Android_D: an apt-get frontend
[06:45] <Acidic> is that not a way of using apt-get?
[06:45] <Android_D> my linux box is not connected to the net either, will that cause a problem?
[06:46] <poningru> Android_D: hehe yeah
[06:46] <luisito> Davey, oh ok. thx!
[06:46] <s1gnal> ^^^what poningru said
[06:46] <Android_D> uargh. alright
[06:46] <Android_D> packages.ubuntu.com should have what I need though?
[06:47] <dj-fu> apt-get is smarter
[06:47] <sn9> Android_D: manually istalling
[06:47] <dli> Acidic, try, /usr/bin/bittorrent-curses
[06:47] <Android_D> yeah
[06:47] <Android_D> manual install, since i don't have ubuntu connected to the net
[06:47] <sn9> Android_D: manually installing packages is not for the faint of heart
[06:47] <Acidic> dli: nope
[06:47] <Android_D> well, I have manually installed my webcam package and gcc-3.4 ...
[06:48] <farous> Android_D: they just want to say that dependencies might be hell. apt-get take care of that for you
[06:48] <sn9> Android_D: you're obviously on the 'net now, so why don't you connect your ubuntu box?
[06:48] <farous> Android_D: so it would be easier just to hook ubuntu box to the net
[06:49] <dli> Acidic, you can use "dpkg -c " to view the contents of a .deb, "cd /var/cache/apt/archives/", and check the .deb
[06:49] <Android_D> sn9: I had troubles getting my onboard network card to connect with ubuntu
[06:49] <Android_D> sn9: and I don't have a router, so switching the line back and forth is a pain
[06:50] <sn9> Android_D: what mobo?
[06:50] <Acidic> dli: i have the contents on my screen, what should i do with them
[06:50] <Android_D> sn9: can't remember off the top of my head, but it is the one that comes with a ShuttleX system
[06:50] <dli> Acidic, try to pipe it to "|grep bin" , or to "|less"
[06:51] <dli> Acidic, like, "dpkg -c foo.deb|grep bin"
[06:51] <Acidic> to find the placement?
[06:51] <luisito> ahem!! all my personal files in my home folder will remain untouched after my dapper upgrade, right?
[06:51] <Acidic> hmm
[06:51] <Acidic> i see a few things in /usr/bin/
[06:52] <Madpilot> luisito, they should, yes
[06:52] <Madpilot> luisito, backups might be a good idea, though - stuff happens.
[06:52] <dli> Acidic, then, you got them :)
[06:52] <atomx> anyone got a sec to help me troubleshoot my e1000 net card?  (obviously it works since I'm chatting here but it's really flaky)
[06:52] <luisito> Madpilot, ok.
[06:52] <Acidic> dli :they are obscure names unfortunately
[06:52] <odin_> how can I scan my system for a certain file?
[06:53] <intelikey> find
[06:53] <odin_> that simple, huh?
[06:53] <_jason2> odin_: find, locate, place > search in the menu
[06:53] <dli> Acidic, if they are in /usr/bin/, you can try to run them
[06:53] <Luke> anyone know any good apts to add audio to a video file?
[06:53] <banane> man find first,then you will get it
[06:53] <intelikey> odin_  find </base/dir> -name <filename>
[06:53] <Android_D> sn9: I think it is an issue with my realtek network adapter actually
[06:53] <blind> heh.. can someone help me run GTA on an ubuntu install? i got it installed, but it doesn't wanna run (running with wine)
[06:54] <dli> odin_, to find filename "odin" in /usr, try "find /usr -type f -name odin"
[06:54] <sn9> Android_D: oh, it's realtek? that shouldn't be any trouble
[06:54] <Acidic> dli: heh, there are many "runnables" but none of them seem to just run and download a .torrent file :/
[06:55] <sn9> Android_D: just look for '8139too' in lsmod
[06:55] <atomx> i think that my e1000 is somehow booting up trying to find an IPv6 router and that no worky :)  I can modprobe -r it (and modprobe to reload it) and it works fine, but by that point a buncha dependant processes have failed
[06:55] <Android_D> sn9: yeah, I have done all that
[06:55] <sn9> was it there?
[06:55] <Android_D> sn9: I am sure it is something simple, I just haven't had the chance to look at it because of school. but I am done now so...
[06:55] <Android_D> yeah, it is there
[06:56] <dli> Acidic, can you /msg me? I will check the list for you. sorry, I'm not running ubuntu myself
[06:56] <sn9> Android_D: recently had trouble with a realtek onboard nic. flashing the bios fixed it
[06:56] <intelikey> odin_ it's a good idea to   man find    first.   there are a lot of options   and you can use wild cards  like    find . -name .*rc -exec . {} \;     that would resourse all your rc files..   it's a very powerful tool.
[06:57] <Android_D> sn9: hmm. good call. I might just do that
[06:57] <Acidic> dli: um.. how do i become "registered"
[06:57] <dli> Acidic, verify again
[06:57] <odin_> intelikey: using the Search for Files tool worked, but apparently non of the libXext files that have come up are what I want for some reason...
[06:57] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[06:57] <Acidic> dli: with nickserv?
[06:58] <dli> Acidic, yes
[06:59] <intelikey> odin_ may i ask 'why you are searching for a file'   ?
[07:00] <`Acidic> dli: got it
[07:00] <floppyears> hi rsync is giving the following error: any ideas on why?
[07:00] <floppyears> rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/Users/jose/Music/myMusic/bebe/Pafuera Telara?as" failed: Invalid argument (22)
[07:00] <banane> list
[07:00] <odin_> intelikey:  trying to install kiso, need to direct it to X, but when I do it says it can't find a valid libXext file
[07:00] <floppyears> anybody ?
[07:00] <odin_> intelikey:  I've tried both /etc/X11 and /usr/lib
[07:00] <vladuz976> is there any benefit using getmail over fetchmail?
[07:01] <intelikey> libxext-dev - X11 miscellaneous extensions library (development headers)
[07:01] <intelikey> maybe install that odin_
[07:01] <atomx> ok how about can anyone tell me where to look up what "error -5" is in the dmesg log when its probing?
[07:02] <odin_> intelikey: what, install libXext?  I think it's suppose to be a file I already have
[07:02] <sn9> floppyears: you can't specify a wildcard during creation
[07:02] <odin_> or should already have
[07:02] <floppyears> sn9: that's the name of the directory
[07:02] <intelikey> dmesg doesn't "porbe" atomx, so while what is probing ?
[07:03] <sn9> floppyears: then use a backslash
[07:03] <intelikey> odin_ read my two posts between yours above
[07:03] <Android_D> if i need to have the mysql development installation, would the mysql-admin package do the trick?
[07:03] <floppyears> sn9: oh, I am doing rysnc over a whole directory and one of the subdirectories
[07:03] <floppyears> happens to have a ? in its name
[07:04] <odin_> intelikey:  oh, sorry, missed that
[07:04] <intelikey> :)
[07:04] <fid|away> so why is firefox slower than molasis in ubuntu?
[07:04] <sn9> floppyears: rename it at the other end
[07:05] <intelikey> cause ff is worthless ?
[07:05] <fid> hrmmmm
[07:05] <sn9> ff is faster than opera
[07:05] <Flannel> fid: ipv6
[07:05] <Flannel> !ipv6
[07:05] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:05] <intelikey> dillo man dillo.    or links2 -g
[07:05] <floppyears> sn9: is there any way to do it other than rename it ? I have a lot of files that have ? in their names :(
[07:06] <sn9> not to put ?'s in names in the first place
[07:07] <intelikey> name\?blah\?
[07:07] <sn9> it usually comes from improper filesystem encoding
[07:07] <Cooner750> Is there any form of TV tuner software for Ubuntu?
[07:07] <sharpy> Cooner750, freevo
[07:07] <sharpy> Cooner750, mythtv
[07:08] <DBO> Cooner750, you will need IVTV for those
[07:08] <intelikey> shuting down Windows sounds like a good idea to me  :)
[07:09] <ocult> somebody here use gdesklets ?
[07:09] <DBO> I prefer to let it BSOD
[07:09] <DBO> its faster
[07:09] <TeamCanada|Silen> what's the cmd to output a user's uid and gid?
[07:10] <DBO> erm... well you could "cat /etc/passwd | grep <username>" hehehe
[07:10] <dli> TeamCanada|Silen, id TeamCanada|Silen
[07:10] <DBO> oh right
[07:11] <TeamCanada|Silen> thank you soo much
[07:11] <dli> TeamCanada|Silen, "id" also shows your groups
[07:11] <DBO> id
[07:11] <DBO> oops
[07:12] <axisys> where can i ask ubuntu offtopic questions?
[07:12] <DBO> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:12] <axisys> DBO: thnx
[07:12] <Mark987> dapper is brown, oh so brown. WAY too much brown in there... did i mention all the brown?
[07:13] <Quan-Time> i cant see you over the brown sorry. heh ;)
[07:13] <Mark987> lol
[07:13] <sn9> Mark987: more brown than breezy?
[07:13] <DBO> Mark987, yes, quite so, I prefer blue, oh so much blue, I cant hear myself over the blue
[07:13] <Mark987> don't recall how breezy was, sry
[07:13] <TeamCanada|Silen> to make something run in the background I type & at the end?
[07:13] <DBO> after a space
[07:13] <TeamCanada|Silen> k
[07:13] <hindley> surely this is why there are themes; if you don't like the brown, change it?
[07:13] <sn9> TeamCanada|Silen: unless you're using sudo
[07:14] <Mark987> you can be sure i already have :)
[07:14] <intelikey> TeamCanada|Silen echo $UID   but i don't know about the group
[07:14] <DBO> sn9, yeah, asking for passwords in the background doesnt work well =P
[07:14] <fid> has anyone used switchfox here?
[07:15] <DBO> sn9, but you can do it after a sudo -s, then do the command
[07:15] <dli> TeamCanada|Silen, if you want it to run at background, without being killed even after logout, try nohup
[07:15] <sn9> DBO: use sudo -b
[07:16] <fid> swiftfox i mean not switchfox
[07:16] <DBO> sn9, me too lazy to man sudo when my method works =P
[07:16] <sn9> DBO: too lazy to spawn a shell when -b works
[07:16] <dli> DBO, I always enable root passwd as soon as possible
[07:17] <DBO> sn9, touche
[07:17] <TeamCanada|Silen> how do I rm more than one filename?
[07:17] <intelikey> TeamCanada|Silen there is probably a shorter way but   this works for gid info
[07:17] <intelikey> grep "`groups | cut -d' ' -f1`" /etc/group
[07:17] <sn9> DBO: -b is like &
[07:17] <_jason2> TeamCanada|Silen: rm file1 file2...
[07:17] <TeamCanada|Silen> thanks
[07:17] <DBO> sn9, yes, thank you=)
[07:17] <dli> TeamCanada|Silen, I suggest you to rm files in nautilus :) rm is just to risky
[07:18] <dli> TeamCanada|Silen, s/to/too/g
[07:18] <TeamCanada|Silen> I'm CLI
[07:18] <intelikey> you can | cut -d':' -f3  the end of that to get just the number if you need to TeamCanada|Silen
[07:18] <intelikey> grep "`groups | cut -d' ' -f1`" /etc/group | cut -d':' -f3
[07:18] <Quan-Time> now to test my new monitor setup. if im not back in 5 mins ive broken somethin
[07:19] <woodwizzle> Is it possible to convert a HDD from one filesystem to another without destroying the data?
[07:19] <Quan-Time> HOLY CRAP STICKS !!! IVE GOT 3 MONITORS WORKING !!!!!
[07:19] <TeamCanada|Silen> dont think so wood
[07:19] <intelikey> if quan=time is not back in five minutes what are we supposed to do?    send out a  redirect  for him ?
[07:19] <TeamCanada|Silen> he's already back
[07:19] <TeamCanada|Silen> you're too slow
[07:20] <Flannel> woodwizzle: you'd have to copy the data, and copy it back.
[07:20] <DBO> Quan-Time, with different images?
[07:20] <alcor_user> 
[07:20] <Quan-Time> DBO, mouse slides across all 3
[07:20] <Android_D> I need to install the mysql header files. how is this accomplished?
[07:20] <DBO> Quan-Time, niiiiice =)
[07:20] <woodwizzle> Flannel: darn, thats what I thought
[07:20] <Quan-Time> and i can load up things independantly
[07:20] <Flannel> woodwizzle: well, I suppose you wouldn't need to copy it back, per sey.  So, if you had twice the space as the data, you'd be fine.  Well, you could get by with smaller amounts, if you did it piece wise.
[07:20] <woodwizzle> is it possible to write to NTFS in ubuntu?
[07:20] <Quan-Time> DBO, yer.. ive had linux for about 2hrs now... so ive done well ;)
[07:20] <fredcox> hi
[07:20] <hindley> three different display adapters, quan time?
[07:20] <dli> alcor_user, english only, please
[07:20] <Flannel> woodwizzle: no.
[07:20] <TeamCanada|Silen> next question, why do you have/need 3 monitors?
[07:20] <_jason2> woodwizzle: not safe
[07:20] <Flannel> TeamCanada|Silen: screen real estate is precious.
[07:21] <intelikey> woodwizzle it is possable, it is not safe.
[07:21] <Quan-Time> hindley, 7800GTX and 6200
[07:21] <alcor_user> hi
[07:21] <woodwizzle> Crud, I'm in a predicament
[07:21] <hindley> cool
[07:21] <alcor_user> dli hi
[07:21] <Quan-Time> 7800gtx has a samsung LCD (centre) and a sharp TV (to the right) and the 6200 has a sony 19" crt on the far left
[07:21] <fredcox> am very crazy
[07:21] <fredcox> from brazil
[07:21] <woodwizzle> I have only one pc that supports SATA. and I have a windows drive in there, and another drive with data on a reiserfs filesystem
[07:21] <TeamCanada|Silen> different monitors would piss me off
[07:21] <dli> alcor_user, no hi, just ask your questions about ubuntu, people will try to help
[07:21] <TeamCanada|Silen> ;P
[07:22] <Flannel> TeamCanada|Silen: if you have two monitors, it cuts down on eye strain.
[07:22] <Quan-Time> uh huh.. i just realised i cant drag things from screen to screen.. i think i nede to impliment twinview to do that
[07:22] <woodwizzle> I need to either move the data to the windows drive, or convert it to vfat so windows and linux can see it =(
[07:22] <intelikey> woodwizzle write support for vfat (fat32)   you can have a partition that M$ and linux both have full access to.
[07:22] <TeamCanada|Silen> just use multiple desktops
[07:22] <Flannel> woodwizzle: or burn it to a CD and sneakernet it.
[07:22] <woodwizzle> But increases neck strain =)
[07:22] <fredcox> i am ubuntu user
[07:22] <DBO> woodwizzle, you can read NTFS files in linux, you cannot convert NTFS to FAT32 without serious risk of data corruption
[07:22] <fredcox> ubuntu user crazy
[07:22] <woodwizzle> Flannel: I'm talking gigs and gigs though
[07:22] <Quan-Time> hmm,, i can load things up, but yer, not drag them from window to window.. not THAT big of an issue.. but ill sort it
[07:22] <Flannel> woodwizzle: so, burn to a DVD ;)
[07:23] <alcor_user> dli can i ask about xhat ?
[07:23] <woodwizzle> I don't have that many dvds
[07:23] <Flannel> woodwizzle: another thing would be ftp it
[07:23] <dli> alcor_user, what is xhat?
[07:23] <Flannel> setup an ftp server on teh linux one (since it's easier to have an ftp server on linux) and then download it all to the windows one.
[07:23] <woodwizzle> Flannel: I can't ftp it because there is no linux on the drive. just data
[07:23] <Flannel> woodwizzle: erm, you could use a liveCD
[07:23] <alcor_user> dli sorry xchat
[07:23] <DBO> woodwizzle, do you have spare HDD space in linux?
[07:23] <poochie> hello
[07:24] <dli> alcor_user, just ask :(
[07:24] <fredcox> i am nothing about linux
[07:24] <slavik> no more beagle for me
[07:24] <fredcox> but
[07:24] <Quan-Time> http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/nonichan/DSCF0408.jpg <-- the setup (thats a winxp setup tho. but you get the idea)
[07:24] <woodwizzle> Flannel... hmm ok I could use the liveCD to ftp it to another box.... i'm gonna need to add another HDD to the other box to make room, but that might work! thanks
[07:25] <Flannel> Quan-Time: you've even got a cupholder!
[07:25] <TeamCanada|Silen> you need a new keyboard
[07:25] <TeamCanada|Silen> badly
[07:25] <hindley> coopers green.. that'll do it to you every time ;)
[07:25] <poochie> im thinking about setting up linux again... ive tried a few times and was only able to get my 9800 pro working once. i was wondering if anyone knows of any completely step-by-step guides to doing it?
[07:25] <Quan-Time> hey, nothing wrong with the old IBM model M
[07:25] <Quan-Time> its possibly older than you ;)
[07:25] <Quan-Time> 1988
[07:25] <slavik> poochie: tons
[07:25] <Quan-Time> poochie, still on ati ?
[07:25] <slavik> Quan-Time: 1988 called, they want their kb back
[07:25] <Quan-Time> ati = pain
[07:26] <TeamCanada|Silen> is that a steelpad?
[07:26] <poochie> no kidding
[07:26] <poochie> :(
[07:26] <dli> poochie, what is 9800 pro?
[07:26] <intelikey> Quan-Time showing your age there ?
[07:26] <fredcox> i am crazy for ubuntu
[07:26] <poochie> ati card dli
[07:26] <Quan-Time> heh.. im fairly old.. well not really
[07:26] <TeamCanada|Silen> 9800 is ati
[07:26] <fredcox> ubuntu is my live
[07:26] <fredcox> :0
[07:26] <fredcox> yessssssssssssssss
[07:26] <alcor_user> dli i want to set xchat scripts .what can i do ?
[07:26] <poochie> anyways the only thing keeping me from going back to linux is worrying about having a guide to installing the drivers that actually works
[07:26] <dli> poochie, oh :( can you use the "ati" driver from xorg?
[07:26] <s1gnal> ubuntu is the best distro I have ever used, hands down. I dumped Gentoo for this
[07:27] <TeamCanada|Silen> I dumped my wife for this
[07:27] <xXxGhostyToastyx> why
[07:27] <fredcox> eu usava slack
[07:27] <Madpilot> poochie, ATI 9800 should be easy to install drivers for
[07:27] <Madpilot> !ati
[07:27] <slavik> s1gnal: maybe because we aren't pokemon named "RTFM"?
[07:27] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:27] <fredcox> depois mudei para ubuntu
[07:27] <Quan-Time> quake3 is WAY WAY chuggy.. it displays, but its just crap.. like 5 frames a sec.. anyone know a way for me to diagnose the issue ?
[07:27] <Madpilot> fredcox, English here, please
[07:27] <sharpy> s1gnal, i dumped slackware for debian and ubuntu. I was sick of compiling from source and dependency nightmare.
[07:27] <fredcox> ok
[07:27] <s1gnal> slavik: lol maybe so
[07:27] <DBO> slavik, speak for yourself, DBO is only 4 letters away from RTFM
[07:28] <TeamCanada|Silen> Quan, put in the windows XP disc and reboot
[07:28] <slavik> DBO: how so?
[07:28] <s1gnal> sharpy: I agree, it seems like something was always broke, I constantly had my hands in it
[07:28] <fredcox> DB2
[07:28] <dli> alcor_user, I don't know :( I don't user scripts in xchat
[07:28] <DBO> slavik, well you replace the D with an R, the B with a T, the O with a F, and add an M
[07:28] <hindley> ati haven't released drivers for x.org 7.0 yet afaik
[07:28] <fredcox> anyone have how to?
[07:28] <fredcox> db2?
[07:28] <slavik> I can say that aout my name ...
[07:29] <poningru> hindley: they did
[07:29] <poningru> recently
[07:29] <alcor_user> dli thinks
[07:29] <cobelloy> hi there anyone use wine + DVD decrypter, DVD shrink ?
[07:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> english is the natural language of the human
[07:29] <intelikey>  Mem usage: 60.2/185.9 MB (32%)
[07:29] <poningru> ~few weeks ago
[07:29] <DBO> slavik, stop poking holes in the logic of my jokes
[07:29] <poningru> TeamCanada|Silen: go troll somewhere else
[07:29] <sharpy> s1gnal, ubuntu works wonders on this olde laptop. 850 mhz P3 128 meg ram and a tiny ATI Mach364 8 meg video card.
[07:29] <DBO> =P
[07:29] <poningru> !ops
[07:29] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[07:29] <dli> TeamCanada|Silen, you shut up :(
[07:29] <Quan-Time> TeamCanada|Silen, i COULD do that. but you see, im not a retard.. i wanted to move away from winxp
[07:29] <poningru> ops: troll needs cleaning up TeamCanada|Silen
[07:29] <TeamCanada|Silen> I got flamed 3 times within 7 seconds
[07:30] <s1gnal> sharpy: not bad, I have a similar laptop, I may try it on there as well
[07:30] <dli> Quan-Time, no point in running windows for me :) and I have none here
[07:30] <poningru> thanks
[07:30] <nalioth> poningru:
[07:30] <Quan-Time> hmm... i still cant get it working smooth.. ideas ?
[07:30] <dli> Quan-Time, ubuntu is now quite easy to start with
[07:30] <Quan-Time> dli, yup.. tis nice
[07:30] <dli> Quan-Time, which part?
[07:30] <sharpy> s1gnal, it runs KDE 3.5 just fine... it's not bloated like most users think. KDE has come a long way.
[07:30] <cobelloy> hi there anyone use wine + DVD decrypter, DVD shrink ?
[07:31] <Quan-Time> used mdk10 about 2 years ago.. was ok.. but had ati back then.. took AGES...
[07:31] <intelikey> sure, killing your self, that will teach them.......
[07:31] <slavik> Quan-Time: don't install beagle ...
[07:31] <blind> Any FREE alternative to Cedega?
[07:31] <Quan-Time> dli, q3 wont run smooth. its like 5fps.. all jerky and stuff
[07:31] <sharpy> blind, wine
[07:31] <slavik> blind: the original? WINE
[07:31] <blind> it's not working for gta3 :\
[07:31] <cobelloy> I have a Q about wine...
[07:31] <slavik> Quan-Time: get native q3
[07:31] <sharpy> this is not the wine channel.
[07:31] <s1gnal> sharpy: I have not tried KDE under ubuntu yet, that is what I have always used in the past, but I am quite happy with gnome atm :)
[07:31] <cobelloy> wine on ubuntu...
[07:31] <slavik> cobelloy: what's your question?
[07:32] <blind> there's actually a wine channel? hm. -joins-
[07:32] <Quan-Time> slavik, i got the q3 linux point release
[07:32] <dli> Quan-Time, "glxinfo|head"
[07:32] <Quan-Time> and i have the original
[07:32] <blind> there's no one in #wine :\
[07:32] <blind> and no topic.
[07:32] <dli> Quan-Time, do you have glx and direct rendering?
[07:32] <cobelloy> installed wine + dvd shrink, dvd decrypter, worked fine - now not working...
[07:32] <dli> Quan-Time, how man fps do you get with "glxgears"
[07:32] <blind> cobelloy, this is not the wine channel.
[07:32] <blind> gosh.
[07:33] <sharpy> s1gnal, nice. :-) I used to use GNOME. Then tried KDE and that was it 4 me.
[07:33] <cobelloy> yes - so Ive been told...
[07:33] <Madpilot> blind, #wine-hq, I think
[07:33] <slavik> cobelloy: that is as uninformative as you can get ...
[07:33] <Quan-Time> dli, where will it output fps with glxgears ? back in the term ?
[07:33] <sn9> blind: there is CedegaCVS
[07:33] <blind> no one there, either, Madpilot
[07:33] <slavik> sharpy: I'm opposite of you
[07:33] <Quan-Time> woh.... glxgears = running SLOW
[07:33] <cobelloy> its all I got - I havent changed anything...
[07:33] <slavik> #WINEHQ
[07:33] <dli> Quan-Time, sorry, I hate ubuntu hacking :( try "glxgears -printfps"
[07:33] <slavik> oops, sorry
[07:33] <slavik> glxinfo|grep direct
[07:33] <Madpilot> blind, #winehq (no dash in it)
[07:33] <s1gnal> sharpy: I may do that in the near future, I'm just trying to get this new box running and then I'll probably use both
[07:33] <dli> Quan-Time, or, "glxgears --printfps"
[07:33] <Quan-Time> 11fps
[07:33] <Quan-Time> not health (:
[07:34] <slavik> woah
[07:34] <fid> man anyone running firefox as their default browser should check out SwiftFox, it runs so much faster than standard build of firefox
[07:34] <dli> Quan-Time, I suppose you are not running an ancient machine
[07:34] <Android_D> would anybody be able to hook me up with a copy of mysql.h
[07:34] <slavik> fid: are you selling swiftfox?
[07:34] <slavik> Android_D: ask synaptic ;)
[07:34] <Quan-Time> dli, amd64 X2 4400+ 7800GTX (and its water cooled and clocked hard)
[07:34] <Android_D> yeah, how?
[07:34] <slavik> !info mysql.h
[07:34] <Quan-Time> this system is no slouch ;)
[07:34] <slavik> Madpilot: what's the command for files?
[07:35] <fid> no i just found it and i'm totally impressed
[07:35] <slavik> fid: then meh
[07:35] <dli> Quan-Time, I see, nvidia, right?
[07:35] <Madpilot> slavik, command for files where?
[07:35] <fid> was kinda bummed out when I switched to ubuntu and wanted firefox but it was slow as crap
[07:35] <fid> hah
[07:35] <Quan-Time> dli, true :)
[07:35] <poningru> fid: or just get the trunk...
[07:35] <poningru> firefox 3.0
[07:35] <slavik> Madpilot: like !info but to show the package that provides a file
[07:35] <dli> Quan-Time, you need to set up the nvidia binary driver
[07:35] <Quan-Time> someone gave me a command before, glxinfo |grep somethin somethin
[07:35] <Madpilot> slavik, hmm... !file?
[07:35] <slavik> !nvidia
[07:35] <ubotu> Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:35] <slavik> heh
[07:35] <slavik> !file mysql.h
[07:35] <cobelloy> so where do I find a wine channel then?
[07:35] <Quan-Time> binary driver you say...
[07:35] <dli> Quan-Time, yes
[07:35] <slavik> says package :(
[07:36] <Madpilot> cobelloy, #winehq
[07:36] <blind> Thanks, Madpilot.
[07:36] <slavik> !bit
[07:36] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[07:36] <dli> Quan-Time, to get full glx support and 3D
[07:36] <slavik> !bot
[07:36] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[07:36] <Android_D> !file mysql.h
[07:36] <Android_D> !info mysql.h
[07:36] <Quan-Time> uh ok.. i did taht before.. but yer, i have an idea.. ill try somethin...
[07:36] <Fujitsu> !find mysql.h
[07:36] <Quan-Time> might even get twinview working :)
[07:36] <intelikey> i have a panel tht i want to remove... but i don't see any way to move or remove it...  ?
[07:36] <slavik> !find mysql.h
[07:36] <Android_D> !find mysql.h
[07:36] <Fujitsu> Wait a moment!
[07:37] <Fujitsu> ubotu's updating, and will take a while to search.
[07:37] <Android_D> :( sorry
[07:37] <cobelloy> o-one is answering there
[07:37] <poningru> stop
[07:37] <poningru> jeez
[07:37] <luciano> the middlemouse doesn't work in my firefox 1.5.can anbody help me ?
[07:37] <Madpilot> folks - the bot can talk to you in PM if you want to hunt for things!
[07:37] <cobelloy> i mean no-one
[07:37] <poningru> cobelloy: follow what Madpilot said
[07:37] <poningru> #winehq
[07:37] <poningru> oh sorry
[07:37] <poningru> nm
[07:37] <dli> Quan-Time, if you couldn't get it work, you may try the driver from nvidia.com
[07:37] <cobelloy> yes - no-one is answering there
[07:38] <Quan-Time> i have (had) nvidia-glx and im swapping to nvidia-settings
[07:38] <Quan-Time> its one or the other it seems...
[07:38] <dli> Quan-Time, you need the nvidia kernel module
[07:38] <cobelloy> there are 105 ppl listed but none are talking
[07:38] <cobelloy> at winehq
[07:38] <Quan-Time> dli, explain please
[07:38] <odin_> does anybody know how to use cdrdao?
[07:39] <poningru> yeah I see that
[07:39] <dli> Quan-Time, find linux-restricted-modules-386 (or linux-restricted-modules-686 linux-restricted-modules-k7 if you are running the 686 or k7 kernel) in the list and mark it for installation the same way as before.
[07:39] <cius> how would I go about setting the monitor refresh rate when in gdm?
[07:39] <dli> Quan-Time, that's from the nvidia wiki
[07:39] <poningru> odin_: just use a front end for cdrdao
[07:39] <TeamCanada|Silen> how do I change a user's group?
[07:40] <slavik> rofl, gigabyte kt400
[07:40] <poningru> ...
[07:40] <dli> cius, I think you can set them in gnome after login, or in "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:40] <odin_> pongingru: like what?
[07:40] <poningru> like gnome-baker, k3b etc.
[07:40] <Android_D> I think I need to get  mysql-devel, which synaptic doesn't have
[07:41] <cius> dli, I changed it in my screen resolution dialogue and made sure to check the "make these the default settings" box, my desktop is now fine, but gdm is still messed up
[07:41] <Quan-Time> dli, yer i have that
[07:41] <Quan-Time> 2 secs restarting X
[07:41] <slavik> libmysql++-dev
[07:42] <odin_> pongingru:  but I don't want to use cdrdao to burn a cd, but to rip an image cd; does k3b have that capability as well?
[07:42] <dli> cius, gdm, okay, do that in "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:42] <TeamCanada|Silen> !tell TeamCanada|Silen about grounding
[07:42] <poningru> what do you mean rip an image cd?
[07:42] <poningru> odin_: as in take the images from a cd?
[07:42] <odin_> poningru:  yeah
[07:43] <GTroy> !xgl
[07:43] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:43] <poningru> what format is the cd in? or does it just have images in the cd?
[07:43] <odin_> poningru:  no, not images; the cd is an image cd, like one made by a .iso or .img image file
[07:43] <poningru> oh gotcha
[07:43] <poningru> hehe gotcha
[07:43] <sn9> odin_: all CDs are image CDs
[07:44] <odin_> poningru:  anyways, I want to rip the files off into .bin format
[07:44] <fredcox> ok
[07:44] <poningru> odin_: hold on I remember a prog
[07:44] <fredcox> i am crazy
[07:44] <fredcox> but
[07:44] <fid> Can anyone recommend a better irc client than xchat?
[07:44] <poningru> let me try and find it
[07:44] <fredcox> i am like linux
[07:44] <poningru> fid: chatzilla?
[07:44] <slavik> fid: gaim
[07:44] <ic56> TeamCanada|Silen: "sudo vipw" and change the 4th colon-separated field to the desired value.
[07:44] <sn9> odin_: cdrdao will do that
[07:44] <odin_> poningru:  just so long as it isn't kiso, I've spent the last hour trying to install that sucker
[07:44] <luisito> fid, try konversation
[07:45] <fid> hrmmm
[07:45] <_jason> fid: irssi if you want terminal
[07:45] <fid> ya if i wanted terminal i would rock bitchX
[07:45] <fid> hah
[07:45] <odin_> sn9:  yeah, I know, but how?  I can't figure out how to use it
[07:45] <sn9> poningru: no way chatzilla can ever beat xchat
[07:45] <luisito> fid, but I think Xchat do the work very well
[07:45] <fid> ya xchat is ok
[07:45] <fredcox> Xchat is broken
[07:45] <fredcox> BitchX is always
[07:45] <fid> I wish they would have made a version of XircOn for linux
[07:45] <fredcox> full
[07:46] <fredcox> the best = bitchx
[07:46] <fid> hah
[07:46] <odin_> sn9:  I tried using cdrdao read-cd, but then it asked for a missing toc-file
[07:46] <poningru> odin_: I think it is gnome-baker
[07:46] <sn9> odin_: you have to name the file
[07:46] <poningru> hold on
[07:47] <odin_> sn9:  read-cd is suppose to default to data.bin
[07:47] <romulo> yo
[07:47] <romulo> =)
[07:47] <sn9> odin_: no, that's for the .bin file
[07:47] <fredcox> putz
[07:47] <sn9> odin_: .bin is useless without .cue or .toc
[07:47] <fredcox> crazys
[07:48] <Cooner750> How do I change the resolution of the login manager screen? It seems to be stuck at a 60Hz refresh
[07:48] <crunchyfish> i've been trying to install ubuntu for three days now :(
[07:48] <poningru> whats the default cd burning software supposed to be for breezy?
[07:48] <fredcox> i am very crazy for lainux
[07:48] <romulo> poningru, nautilus cdburner, k3b or gnomebaker i believe =P
[07:48] <fredcox> muito louco
[07:49] <dli> crunchyfish, oh, you can get help here
[07:49] <odin_> sn9:  okay, does it matter what filename do I use, or just anything.toc?
[07:49] <poningru> fredcox: we get it, you can go yell about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:49] <poningru> hmm
[07:49] <fredcox> oks
[07:49] <fredcox> ok
[07:49] <sn9> odin_: whatever. it's the .bin filename that matters
[07:49] <odin_> sn9: k, thanks
[07:49] <crunchyfish> i've downloaded both the 32 and 64 bit versions, ran md5 checks to make sure they were intact. i burned the 64 bit version once and the 32 bit version three times at speeds ranging from 1x to 40x.
[07:50] <fredcox> thanks
[07:50] <fredcox> sorry
[07:50] <crunchyfish> when i try to install from any of those it will copy the files, reboot, and then freeze between 70-80%
[07:50] <sn9> odin_: .bin files cannot be renamed
[07:50] <dr_claw> what is a good fire wall for breezy
[07:50] <poningru> np
[07:50] <poningru> its cool
[07:50] <crunchyfish> when i try to install with acpi turned off it says it cannot copy all the files
[07:50] <fredcox> i am like k3b
[07:50] <fredcox> the best
[07:50] <crunchyfish> i downloaded the dapper drake beta and tried booting the live cd to install from there, but as soon as the desktop comes up the pc freezes for a few moments and then reboots
[07:50] <Auska> ok Quan-Time here on wifes computer.. that didnt work
[07:50] <romulo> fredcox, i like k3b, but prefer gnomebaker
[07:50] <crunchyfish> i tried that in graphical safe mode and regular
[07:50] <dli> crunchyfish, after it freezes, can you reboot the new installation from hard drive?
[07:51] <Auska> [EE]  nvidia unknown device..
[07:51] <poningru> crunchyfish: do you already have breazy installed?
[07:51] <poningru> if so why not just do an update?
[07:51] <cius> dli, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg fixed my problem, thanks
[07:51] <poningru> nalioth arr?
[07:51] <romulo> Auska, the problem i think is just your drivers for nvidia
[07:51] <fredcox> yes
[07:51] <crunchyfish> when i try to do that, dli, it says that the installation didn't finish and suggests i try it again. i found my way to a command prompt once by accident but i had no idea what to do from there
[07:51] <crunchyfish> no poningru
[07:51] <crunchyfish> that's what i wanted to do :(
[07:51] <poningru> oh nm
[07:51] <fredcox> nvidia funfs coool
[07:51] <romulo> Auska, you should install from console and install manually the nvidia drivers, the updated ones on repositories
[07:51] <Auska> so i need to find my active device name and update my xorg.conf file ??
[07:51] <dli> cius, it's a magic command you should remember for good
[07:52] <fid_> yay for bitchx
[07:52] <romulo> Auska, im supposing u have only one vga card
[07:52] <sn9> crunchyfish: apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[07:52] <dr_claw> How do i unpack a tar?
[07:52] <romulo> Auska,how many do you own?
[07:52] <poningru> crunchyfish: you can install without booting into the live cd
[07:52] <poningru> crunchyfish: in the menu there is an option to just install
[07:52] <Cooner750> anyone?
[07:52] <romulo> Auska, sorry
[07:52] <crunchyfish> oh, i guess i should try that then. i anticipated i'd have the same problem i had with breezy during text-only installation
[07:52] <romulo> Auska,it was not for you, it was for crunchyfish
[07:52] <fredcox> you are experts in ubuntu
[07:52] <Auska> romulo: well, i got 2 cards in that machine, 3 monitors
[07:52] <poningru> Cooner750: sorry missed you but can you repeat?
[07:53] <romulo> Auska, wow
[07:53] <dli> crunchyfish, could be some filesystem problem, did you try another file system?
[07:53] <Auska> i HAD it working, but glxgears was saying 11fps.. and games were super slow
[07:53] <sn9> Cooner750: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:53] <romulo> Auska, well i dunnno waht your really rpoblem is, care to repeat?
[07:53] <crunchyfish> dli, do you mean other than ext3? i've just been letting the installer autopartition and format a blank space on my drive
[07:54] <romulo> Auska,nvidia not working?
[07:54] <Cooner750> again? I already did that once
[07:54] <dli> crunchyfish, it happens sometimes, I suggest you to manually (or semi-manually) part the disk, and choose jfs/reiserfs instead of ext3
[07:55] <Auska> i changed from (in synapsis) nvidia-glx to nvidia-setting (changing uninstalled the glx one) and when i went to startx it cant find the device, says nvidia is not valid (i assume its reading the name in xorg,conf)
[07:55] <crunchyfish> thanks dli, i'll give that a try right now
[07:55] <dli> crunchyfish, not sure whether it would work, but it worth a try
[07:55] <dr_claw> How do i transfer mp3s from one computer to the next?
[07:55] <romulo> anyone here knows if the solution for "no inittab file found" message does have a good solution and if just replace the /etc/inittab works?
[07:55] <Auska> so need to find the exact device name, and i can fix it.. just dont know how to list / find it
[07:55] <romulo> Auska,install xorg-driver-nvidia i believe
[07:55] <romulo> and it should be all fine
[07:56] <Auska> umm, i dont get what you mean by that
[07:56] <Auska> install ?? apt-get ?
[07:56] <romulo> Auska, try sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-nvidia
[07:56] <poningru> Auska: yeah
[07:56] <romulo> Auska, using what? breezy, dapper?
[07:56] <Auska> gotcha.. ill try.
[07:56] <Auska> dapper
[07:56] <romulo> so it just seems that
[07:56] <dli> romulo, that's very bad :( check whether /etc/inittab is really missing
[07:56] <fid_> is dapper the beta version?
[07:56] <fid_> like the newest beta?
[07:57] <romulo> i believe you will also need the kernel module for nvidia
[07:57] <romulo> dli, i think fsck removed it
[07:57] <romulo> after i fsck'ed the disk, it didnt boot anymore
[07:57] <romulo> im on the winblows install now
[07:57] <Auska> "failed to load module nvidia. module does not exist"
[07:57] <romulo> cause i need to solve some personal problems first, wich requires the pc working
[07:57] <dli> romulo, you can boot livecd, run apt-get with chroot :)
[07:57] <romulo> Auska, the module nvidia should be in kernel package
[07:58] <romulo> dli, yep
[07:58] <romulo> dli will do
[07:58] <romulo> but cant now
[07:58] <xxmel0nxx> hi
[07:58] <romulo> Auska, try apt-cache search nvidia
[07:58] <Cooner750> Why wont my 'default sound device' setting stay set?
[07:58] <Auska> kk, how i install / get it ?
[07:58] <Auska> romulo
[07:58] <romulo> Auska, see if it shows something about linux-image- your -kernel-version and modules
[07:58] <tritium> Auska: do you have linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) installed?
[07:58] <dli> romulo, I think the package is init-scripts
[07:58] <romulo> to check your kernel version, perform uname -r
[07:58] <sn9> dli: /etc/inittab isn't part of any pkg
[07:58] <romulo> yeah thats one
[07:58] <cobelloy> hey - I cant open a root terminal anymore - it starts then dissapears
[07:59] <Auska> tritium yer i do (from memory)
[07:59] <xxmel0nxx> any one can help me? I can't reboot my ubuntu box, it ask for  root password each time I try to reboot
[07:59] <romulo> sn9, anyway if i boot a live cd i can copy inittab from there
[07:59] <cobelloy> I had a nautilu script to open root terminal in a folder too that doesnt work now
[07:59] <dli> sn9, really? ask for a copy here :) you can send him yours
[07:59] <slavik> xxmel0nxx: do you sudo reboot?
[07:59] <tritium> Auska: which architecture?  What's the output of "uname -r"?
[07:59] <sn9> i can't dcc from this machine
[07:59] <Auska> 2.6.15-21.386
[08:00] <slavik> dapper
[08:00] <cobelloy> hey - I cant open a root terminal anymore - it starts then dissapears
[08:00] <romulo> Auska, is restricted for 15-21.386 installed?
[08:00] <xxmel0nxx> slavik: sudo reboot, or in gnome
[08:00] <romulo> Auska, try sudo modprobe nvidia and watch what ahppens
[08:00] <dli> sn9, it's a text file, you can use pastebin
[08:00] <Auska> romulo: i think, how i check ?
[08:00] <tritium> Auska: sudo apt-get install linux-386 to be sure
[08:00] <romulo> Auska, if nothing happens, check the tail of your dmesg
[08:00] <romulo> Auska, check the package name in apt and try to install it
[08:00] <slavik> xxmel0nxx: what happens when you do that in terminal?
[08:00] <xxmel0nxx> slavik: it always ask for root pasword after switching to runlevel 6 and sending the  TERM signa
[08:01] <xxmel0nxx> slavik: same
[08:01] <slavik> hmm, interesting
[08:01] <Auska> tritium: already latest ver
[08:01] <xxmel0nxx> slavik: I can halt without a problem, but I can't reboot if I don't type the password, it is the same as If I swhitch to single user
[08:01] <slavik> just press enter
[08:02] <Auska> tail of dmesg ? i dont get it
[08:02] <slavik> well, sudo always asks for your password
[08:02] <tritium> Auska: then you should have the nvidia module, as linux-386 depends on (and hence installs) linux-restricted-modules-386
[08:02] <cobelloy> I cant open a root terminal anymore - it starts then dissapears, can anyone help me?
[08:02] <slavik> Auska: where do you find a tail on an animal?
[08:02] <slavik> cobelloy: you don't need a root terminal, use sudo
[08:02] <romulo> tritium, it can be blacklisted
[08:02] <romulo> =P
[08:02] <Auska> is said animal a worm or a snake ?
[08:02] <sn9> dli, romulo: http://pastebin.com/689854
[08:02] <dj-fu> sudo doesn't always ask for a password, it caches for a few minutes, it can also be configured to not ask for a password (i.e; giving your user seamless admin privs)
[08:03] <slavik> Auska: a four legged animal
[08:03] <cobelloy> thats not the pont
[08:03] <romulo> Auska, to find a tail on animal, cat animal | tail :D
[08:03] <dli> romulo, does ubuntu have the package, sys-apps/sysvinit ?
[08:03] <tritium> romulo: what's your point?
[08:03] <cobelloy> point
[08:03] <slavik> romulo: rofl
[08:03] <slavik> Auska: tail is always in the back ...
[08:03] <romulo> tritium, my point is, it could be not modprob'ing the nvidia module because it could be blacklisted
[08:03] <cobelloy> slavik - it worked yesterday, now it wont come up
[08:03] <slavik> cobelloy: use sudo ...
[08:03] <Auska> i know that.. was a joke.
[08:03] <tritium> romulo: he said he couldn't modprobe it manually
[08:03] <slavik> cobelloy: you shouldn't need a root terminal
[08:03] <cobelloy> I don't think it is the only problem
[08:04] <dj-fu> slavik, don't try and bully him, some people prefer root terminals
[08:04] <romulo> thanks dli
[08:04] <slavik> Auska: what do you think a tail of a text would be?
[08:04] <cobelloy> no I don't but my system is broken...
[08:04] <dli> romulo, you found the package?
[08:04] <cobelloy> wether I want to use it or not it should work
[08:04] <slavik> dj-fu: in ubuntu, there is no root ... much like the spoon ;)
[08:04] <intelikey> dj-fu> sudo doesn't always ask for a password, it caches for a few minutes, it can also be configured to not ask for a password (i.e; giving your user seamless admin privs) <--- that would be the PERFECT argument against sudo   imo.
[08:04] <romulo> dli wich one?
[08:04] <_jason> cobelloy: pastebin the script so we can see what it does please
[08:04] <dli> romulo, sysvinit
[08:04] <cobelloy> nothing takes place
[08:04] <slavik> intelikey: 5min I think the docs said :D
[08:04] <Auska> umm, i just cant startx it throws [EE]  failed to load module "nvidia" (module dosent exist, 0)
[08:04] <dj-fu> slavik, there IS root. I have enabled it. I also have my user configured so it doesn't ask for a sudo password.
[08:04] <slavik> Auska: you need to install the module
[08:04] <_jason> cobelloy: I mean the source, so we can read it
[08:04] <cobelloy> I click root terminal, it thinks for a moment, then nothing
[08:04] <tritium> Auska: what does "modinfo nvidia" say?
[08:05] <romulo> Auska, dmesg | tail and pastebin that please
[08:05] <dj-fu> intelikey, seamless admin privs are not always good - i break things because I can fix them
[08:05] <slavik> dj-fu: as far as ubuntu is concerned, there is no root ...
[08:05] <romulo> after a modprobe nvidia
[08:05] <cobelloy> i dont understand - how do I get it?
[08:05] <dj-fu> slavik, excuse me? I run ubuntu. I have root. it's about choice
[08:05] <dr_claw> How do i transfer mp3s from one computer to the next?
[08:05] <romulo> i use root too
[08:05] <tritium> Auska: don't paste it here.  If you get info back, then just append "nvidia" to the end of /etc/modules
[08:05] <romulo> hate sudo
[08:05] <slavik> dj-fu: nevermind then ... you don't get the point
[08:05] <intelikey> dj-fu ever uninstall passwd on a system ?
[08:05] <_jason> cobelloy: should be in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[08:05] <gpm> hey everyone, i'm trying to install clearlooks-quicksilver (from http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1213), but when i select the theme, it just turns to the default theme. is there a newer version of clearlooks i need to get? i'm on dapper
[08:06] <Auska> tritium: it throws a whole lot of parm; NVreg_stuffstuff
[08:06] <dj-fu> intelikey, haven't tried that one, lol.
[08:06] <tritium> Auska: good!  Just do as I mentioned above
[08:06] <dj-fu> slavik, please, explain your point to me
[08:06] <romulo> Auska, looks like the module is ok.
[08:06] <romulo> must be missing the xorg module.
[08:06] <romulo> nto the kernel one
[08:06] <cobelloy> oh you mean my open as root script?
[08:06] <romulo> Auska, installed xorg-driver-nvidia?
[08:06] <tritium> it's probably just not loaded, Auska
[08:06] <slavik> dj-fu: ubuntu is not gentoo ... ubuntu is for users, not hackers. users shouldn't need root
[08:06] <dj-fu> cobelloy, alt+f2, gksudo gnome-terminal
[08:07] <MistaED> gpm: get a clearlooks-cairo deb package
[08:07] <tritium> Auska: lsmod | grep nvidia please
[08:07] <cobelloy> root terminal doesnt open from the menu either though
[08:07] <_jason> cobelloy: yes
[08:07] <linlin> what kind of software raid does ubuntu have?
[08:07] <linlin> good?
[08:07] <dj-fu> slavik, users have the choice. that's the point of running linux 
[08:07] <_jason> cobelloy: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:07] <romulo> tritium,maybe the module has been compiled with a diff gcc version than kernel too, if is that, it wont load, but will modinfo
[08:07] <cobelloy> it is not just the script
[08:07] <cobelloy> hoary
[08:07] <cobelloy> still waiting for breezy
[08:07] <jbzz> I am having a problem with the mouse while using the pgAdmin3 query tool , PostgreSQL 8.0.3 and Ubuntu 5.10   Keyboard sometimes unresponsive, mouse changes to plus sign and 90 degree bracket in upper left but it will not 'click' anything.
[08:07] <tritium> romulo: we'll see
[08:07] <romulo> tritium,yeh
[08:07] <slavik> dj-fu: windowsxp gives the same choice and it isn't as difficult about it as ubuntu ... and you know what happens
[08:07] <_jason> cobelloy: does synaptic work?
[08:07] <Auska> tritium: theres three entries
[08:08] <cobelloy> the script worked yesterday and so did root terminal from the menu
[08:08] <cobelloy> yes it does
[08:08] <romulo> Auska, theres one that is just nvidia?
[08:08] <Auska> yes the first one
[08:08] <tritium> Auska: modinfo nvidia | grep vermagic, please
[08:08] <romulo> Auska, so the module is loaded
[08:08] <slavik> my cousin's system got infected with a spam bot because windows doesn't care for users having root access
[08:08] <romulo> tritium, maybe nv is loaded too, the fb
[08:08] <dj-fu> slavik, I understand completely, but bullying people and telling them that there is no root is just uncool
[08:08] <intelikey> cobelloy still waiting for breezy ?    huh ?
[08:08] <_jason> cobelloy: well you need to either paste the command that the root terminal shortcut uses or pastebin the source of the nautilus script.  otheriwse, it is pretty hard to help
[08:09] <cobelloy> yeah, only ordered it recently...
[08:09] <tritium> please take the root vs. sudo debate to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:09] <Auska> vermagic is the current kernel version
[08:09] <tritium> Auska: what about gcc version?
[08:09] <slavik> dj-fu: but otherwise, how do you get people not to use it?
[08:09] <dj-fu> lol, nod. I'll drop it
[08:09] <slavik> bah, fine
[08:09] <dj-fu> slavik, go talk to yourself about it in #ubuntu-offtopic. toodles
[08:09] <cobelloy> how do I get the command that the menu entry uses?
[08:09] <_jason> cobelloy: do you have the menu editor?
[08:09] <ramless> HI, i try to remove evolution... it requires to remove ubuntu desktop... it is normal??
[08:10] <Auska> gcc version? what do you mean?
[08:10] <slavik> tritium: why do you stop my arguments especially when I am winning?
[08:10] <gpm> MistaED: any clue where i could get a clearlooks-cairo deb? or build one?
[08:10] <slavik> ramless: yes, but it is not a good idea to remove ubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <tritium> slavik: I didn't.  I just asked that it move to another channel
[08:10] <cobelloy> probably not...
[08:10] <dli> cobelloy, you can try a menu editor
[08:10] <slavik> tritium: but you know it won't :P
[08:10] <tritium> ramless: if you do that, just remember to reinstall ubuntu-desktop before you dist-upgrade to dapper
[08:10] <intelikey> gnome menu editor   and look see   or you could drag and drop the menu itom to desktop and then right click permissions and look see what it is ...
[08:10] <dj-fu> ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage which depends on all of the packages in the ubuntu-desktop environment, it's safe to remove if youw ant to remove evolution
[08:11] <Auska> tritium: gcc version? what do you mean?
[08:11] <dj-fu> see `apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop`
[08:11] <ramless> slavik: yes, i know... i use thunderbird...
[08:11] <romulo> Auska, perform gcc --version
[08:11] <slavik> ramless: no need to remove evolution :)
[08:11] <tritium> Auska: from the "modinfo nvidia | grep vermagic"
[08:11] <tritium> that tells you which compiler it was compiled with
[08:11] <tritium> e.g., gcc-4.0
[08:11] <romulo> tritium,thanks for the info, didnt know that
[08:11] <jtibau> setting up an installation party and need a local repository... need some help please
[08:11] <ramless> i don't need 2 email client...
[08:11] <Auska> tritium: 4.0.3
[08:12] <tritium> romulo: :)
[08:12] <slavik> ramless: evolution has more stuff though I think
[08:12] <tritium> Auska: did you compile that yourself?
[08:12] <meshe> anyone know why my network cards (3 of them e100, via-rhine and tulip) won't work in breezy, but will in knoppix and windows?
[08:12] <Auska> tritium: no?
[08:12] <ramless> but it has not newsgroup client
[08:12] <intelikey> ramless you have at least two email clients already
[08:12] <romulo> Auska, installed the nvidia's one from site or the ubuntu one from apt?
[08:12] <dli> meshe, modprobe already?
[08:12] <dj-fu> ramless, it's safe to remove.
[08:13] <tritium> Auska: I'm running dapper, and my nvidia kernel module was compiled with gcc-4.0
[08:13] <meshe> dli: i did modprobe the modules
[08:13] <Auska> romulo: from synapsis
[08:13] <jtibau> anybody know how to setup a local ubuntu repository???
[08:13] <dli> meshe, work now?
[08:13] <meshe> dli: no
[08:13] <cobelloy> what menu editor can I get?
[08:13] <slavik> jtibau: try searching google ... setting up repo is more advanced than the purpose of this channel, I think
[08:13] <crunchyfish> i'm seconds away from knowing if reiserfs is going to work dli :)
[08:14] <meshe> the cards are listed in ifconfig as running and i statically assigned addresses
[08:14] <intelikey> kmenu  :)
[08:14] <dli> jtibau, I run apt-proxy, not a repository, but enough to provide proxy
[08:14] <slavik> cobelloy: there is alacarte ...
[08:14] <dli> crunchyfish, good :)
[08:14] <meshe> but they are all dropping packets massively
[08:14] <cobelloy> is it in repos
[08:14] <dli> crunchyfish, did you change the partitioning also?
[08:14] <jtibau> dli: I need to make it work withouth an internet connection
[08:14] <meshe> i actually only once got about half a dozen ping responses
[08:14] <dli> meshe, check what's in dmesg, dmesg|less
[08:14] <Madpilot> cobelloy, try right-clicking on your Applications menu - you should get a "Edit Menus" entry...
[08:14] <cius> why is it that in order to remove ekiga using synaptic it tells me I have to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[08:15] <cobelloy> it is not listed on synaptic...
[08:15] <dli> meshe, double check, "lspci", "ifconfig -a"
[08:15] <dj-fu> cius, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[08:15] <jtibau> dli: I read that apt-proxy needs an internet connection anyway
[08:15] <cobelloy> only get option to add launcher to panel
[08:15] <crunchyfish> in what way, dli? i'm installing to a 40gb hard drive. half of it is partitioned fat32, 19.1-ish gigs are reiserfs, and 852mb is swap
[08:15] <dli> jtibau, I see
[08:15] <dj-fu> it's safe to remove, if you don't want all the packages provided by it
[08:15] <crunchyfish> but those are the ratios i've been using this whole time
[08:15] <crunchyfish> would that matter?
[08:15] <meshe> jas, popping back to breezy
[08:15] <jtibau> dli: I've been trying to do something like in the debian repository howto
[08:16] <dli> jtibau, debian provides a way to generate a debmirror
[08:16] <jason12> I can't get the Synaptic Package Manager or apt-get to work on a (20 min. old) new install
[08:16] <cius> what if I don't want to remove the entire ubuntu-desktop, but just ekiga?
[08:16] <jtibau> dli: but for some reason I don't have a dpkg-scanpackages
[08:16] <dli> jtibau, if you want to follow the debian way, read docs from the debian FAI project
[08:16] <slavik> cius: ubuntu-desktop doesn't actually provide anything ... it only has lots of dependancies
[08:17] <jtibau> dli: is there an ubuntu way?
[08:17] <cius> slavik, so removing it doesn't actually remove anything from the system?
[08:17] <dli> jtibau, "apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search dpkg-scanpackages"
[08:17] <jtibau> dli: or an easy way? hehe
[08:17] <_jason> jason12: paste the output of the command 'groups' using applications > accessories > terminal please
[08:17] <hyperstream> how do i play bin/cue movies?
[08:17] <dli> jtibau, the debian way should simply work for ubuntu
[08:17] <romulo> hyperstream, use gmplayer
[08:17] <dli> hyperstream, mplayer is the most robust one
[08:17] <romulo> to do that
[08:17] <romulo> dli =)
[08:18] <hyperstream> xine wont play it ?
[08:18] <intelikey> !vlc
[08:18] <ubotu> I heard vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[08:18] <_jason> cobelloy: smeg should be in hoary-backports.  But the easiest method is dragging the shortcut to your desktop and right clicking > properties
[08:18] <romulo> hyperstream, afaik, it wont
[08:18] <_jason> as someone said
[08:18] <Auska> so after all that, any way to fix my prob ? it happened when i changed from nvidia-glx to nvidia-setting in synapsis.. it had to remove one. thats the reason i cant get into X again
[08:18] <cowboyfeng> hello
[08:18] <hyperstream> thanks
[08:18] <cobelloy> I just started a root terminal from a user terminal, sudo gnome-terminal, why wont it work from the menu??
[08:18] <LinuxMan> :)
[08:18] <crunchyfish> dli: it's still installing but it's gone further than it ever has before
[08:18] <romulo> Auska, reinstarll nvidia-glx then
[08:18] <sn9> hyperstream: .bin/.cue are not movies
[08:18] <_jason> jason12: did you do an expert install?
[08:19] <jason12> jason@Phoenix:~$ groups
[08:19] <jason12> jason adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[08:19] <jason12> yes
[08:19] <cobelloy> smeg isnt there, and I cant drag any launchers from the menu to the desktop.
[08:19] <_jason> jason12: so you have access to root then?
[08:19] <dli> crunchyfish, it's possible, it's a software bug, but also possible you need to check badblocks with your hdd
[08:19] <jtibau> dli: I also read about an apt-Move... but it said that I neede a PGP signature or something... plus the howto said it was for a CD repository... I would like to use a web server instead....
[08:19] <meshe> dli: in dmesg i'm getting "NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out"
[08:19] <crunchyfish> nevermind, i think it's locked up at 77%
[08:19] <Auska> cheers for help
[08:20] <crunchyfish> dli, it was actually doing this on a different drive i had in this same pc
[08:20] <jason12> I "think" so ...
[08:20] <crunchyfish> but i can check for that
[08:20] <intelikey> jason12 you're such a groupie...
[08:20] <hyperstream> sn9,  i believe its a image. now depending of what type of image.(dvd cdr in this case) its not to say that it isnt a movie.
[08:20] <dli> jtibau, it should work with a web server, at least from the FAI project
[08:20] <hyperstream> i mean cdr *
[08:20] <TiGZ> Can someone here help me?
[08:20] <cobelloy> hang on, yes I can
[08:20] <hyperstream> dvd rip. perhaps cam.
[08:20] <_jason> jason12: in a terminal, type: su -               and enter your root password, then follow ubout's instructions
[08:20] <dli> crunchyfish, and ext3 doesn't on either drive?
[08:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell jason12 about expert
[08:20] <Quan-Time> ok im back (i was auska)
[08:20] <crunchyfish> yeah, i used ext3 on both drives and every time it froze up between 70-80% of the install
[08:21] <sn9> hyperstream: you have to burn the image to disc with cdrdao before you can play it
[08:21] <jtibau> dli: just to get it out of my mind, is there a dpkg-scanpackages command in ubuntu??
[08:21] <Quan-Time> im back on the triple monitor setup, but i glxgears = SLOW
[08:21] <hyperstream> wrong
[08:21] <TiGZ> Is anyone familiar with wine here?
[08:21] <jason12> I have root access
[08:21] <dli> crunchyfish, must be a software bug then
[08:21] <hyperstream> i can use VLC
[08:21] <hyperstream> :)
[08:21] <crunchyfish> and unless it just takes forever for "fontconfig" to configure, i think it's locked up again
[08:21] <cobelloy> _jason, the launcher says this: gksudo /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator
[08:21] <Quan-Time> so games are useless to me on my 7800gtx (nvidia).. thats what i want to try and get working
[08:21] <intelikey> jtibau apt-cache search/show
[08:21] <_jason> cobelloy: now type that in a terminal and see what output you get
[08:21] <sn9> hyperstream: not with .bin/.cue
[08:21] <dli> crunchyfish, I hate ext3, as much as I hate reiserfs :) I recommend jfs and reiser4
[08:21] <TiGZ> Is anyone familiar with wine here?
[08:22] <_jason> jason12: good, ubotu's instructions should take care of your problem then.  Did you receive a private message from him ?
[08:22] <dli> Quan-Time, nvidia driver works now?
[08:22] <cobelloy> and now of course for some reason it is working again.....
[08:22] <sn9> hyperstream: you could with .iso, though
[08:22] <cobelloy> AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[08:22] <TiGZ> Is anyone familiar with wine here?
[08:22] <Quan-Time> dli, well i have triple monitor setup, but glxgears = slow as anything
[08:22] <crunchyfish> maybe i should just stick to windows, or try installing a different distro. i'm kind of disappointed though because ubuntu looks really appealing
[08:22] <Quan-Time> so i cant play quake3 / wolfET
[08:22] <_jason> cobelloy: you should be happy, not argh'ing
[08:22] <Quan-Time> thats what i want to get working, else everything is ok
[08:22] <dli> is that the reason?
[08:22] <cobelloy> even the script works again !!!!!
[08:22] <Quan-Time> not sure...
[08:22] <intelikey> tigz wine is wine is not an emulator
[08:22] <TiGZ> Does anyone have a link for Nvivia Drivers?
[08:22] <cobelloy> but why?????
[08:23] <tritium> !nvidia
[08:23] <ubotu> Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:23] <dj-fu> www.nvidia.com
[08:23] <Quan-Time> www.nvidia.com ?
[08:23] <dj-fu> lol
[08:23] <cobelloy> why did it stop working then start working again ??
[08:23] <TiGZ> intelikey: i know
[08:23] <hyperstream> sn9: VLC plays KVCD's bin/cue in windows and ive just found that it was created for linux and ported for windows.
[08:23] <hyperstream> its a known thing.
[08:23] <hyperstream> perhaps google ?
[08:23] <dli> Quan-Time, I suppose it must be faster than 11 fps
[08:23] <_jason> cobelloy: are you positive you were typing the password ok?
[08:23] <TiGZ> Because wine needs better drivers
[08:23] <cobelloy> I wonder if dvdshrink is working again...
[08:23] <Quan-Time> dli, how can i get it to output fps ? glxgears -infofps ?
[08:23] <Quan-Time> somethin like that
[08:23] <fid> How can I check my system to make sure its totally secure?
[08:23] <dli> Quan-Time, glxgears -printfps
[08:23] <cowboyfeng> I just installed kubuntu on a hp 503w and I am getting a stall at grub.
[08:24] <Quan-Time> fid, ask a 13yo to break it
[08:24] <cobelloy> it wasnt even asking me, i clicked the menu entry, it thought for a moment then nothing...
[08:24] <fid> so like if i were to say go on irc.2600.net no one could pwn my noob arse
[08:24] <sn9> hyperstream: you can install vlc
[08:24] <hyperstream> sure i can ?
[08:24] <dli> Quan-Time, ask ubuntu developers to stop hacking glxgears :)
[08:24] <hyperstream> apt-get install vlc ?
[08:24] <sn9> hyperstream: right
[08:24] <intelikey> fid is the power cord connected ?    it's not totally secure then.
[08:24] <_jason> cobelloy: strange, don't know what would cause that.  If it happens again, remember to do that command in a regular terminal and look at the output
[08:24] <fid> sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:24] <meshe> i am really quite stumped on this one, the networks cards should just work... i wonder if there's a missing driver for the pci bus or something
[08:24] <hyperstream> sn9, exactly therefore i do not require to burn it ?
[08:24] <intelikey> fid nessus
[08:24] <hyperstream> fid,  su :D
[08:25] <cowboyfeng> stalls at grub 1.5
[08:25] <cowboyfeng> nothing else
[08:25] <sn9> if it is in fact a KVCD
[08:25] <cobelloy> this time there was no output - it just worked
[08:25] <cobelloy> typed the command and a root term opened
[08:25] <jason12> worked like a charm, all jasons rock
[08:25] <_jason> jason12: ;)
[08:25] <cobelloy> dvdshrink not working again tho
[08:26] <hyperstream> sn9, i downloaded it off bittorrent. its labeld. KVCD.
[08:26] <hyperstream> off a torrent site*
[08:26] <sn9> go ahead then
[08:26] <hyperstream> ahh i will. ?
[08:26] <cowboyfeng> god damit all i want to do is use gimp and I can't even get the os to boot
[08:26] <dli> meshe, still one way
[08:26] <dli> meshe, want to try?
[08:26] <hyperstream> rotf
[08:27] <intelikey> fid checkrootkit  nessus  tripwire.....  search the package manager
[08:27] <meshe> if it lets me stick to ubuntu, i'll try
[08:27] <Quan-Time> how do i get glxgears to display FPS ?
[08:27] <dli> meshe, download kernel source, build your own kernel
[08:27] <meshe> you think that's it?
[08:27] <dli> meshe, try the newest kernel
[08:27] <intelikey> run it ?
[08:27] <fid> when running scans w/ nessus what do i want as the target?
[08:27] <dli> Quan-Time, glxgears -printfps
[08:28] <dj-fu> !glxgears
[08:28] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[08:28] <dj-fu> ^^
[08:28] <dj-fu> Surprisingly, that actually works.
[08:28] <cowboyfeng> I replaced the batery then it recognized the hd but it still won't boot
[08:28] <Quan-Time> i know its not a benchmark.. but i get 17fps
[08:28] <Quan-Time> so i know something is wrong
[08:28] <hyperstream> dj-fu,  have you played with lmms ?
[08:28] <Fuelbottle> The nvidia driver in ubuntu dapper crashes X every 2-3 hours or so for me...
[08:28] <hyperstream> its not bad.
[08:28] <tritium> Fuelbottle: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[08:28] <meshe> i downloaded 1.6.12-10-686-smp on my laptop, burned it to a cd and installed it (it's a dual cpu machine)
[08:28] <hyperstream> except the FX gui doesnt pop up which really limits what you can do . :/
[08:29] <jtibau> dli: what's the gpg key for? do I really need the Release.gpg and public.key files for my repository to work???
[08:29] <cowboyfeng> s o i should just use windows then
[08:29] <slavik> Quan-Time: glxinfo|grep direct
[08:29] <dli> jtibau, sorry, do you get the FAI docs?
[08:29] <Quan-Time> slavik, yes yes yes
[08:29] <dj-fu> hyperstream, don't know what lmms is/
[08:29] <Quan-Time> somethin is really wrong here.
[08:29] <slavik> that returns yes?
[08:29] <hyperstream> its a fruity loops CLONE
[08:29] <dli> meshe, download kernel source, and build :(
[08:29] <hyperstream> apt-get install lmms
[08:29] <|lostbyte|> Quan-Time: direct rendering : yes ?
[08:29] <hyperstream> its pretty leet :D
[08:29] <Quan-Time> slavik, uh huh (yup )
[08:29] <dj-fu> seriously?
[08:30] <dj-fu> w00t
[08:30] <hyperstream> linux multimedia system :D (i think)
[08:30] <hyperstream> yes man
[08:30] <Quan-Time> direct rendering = yes (say it 3 times, as i have 3 monitors)
[08:30] <meshe> dli: think it's worth trying dapper?
[08:30] <hyperstream> awesome hay ? i got all my old FL studio stuff and your's
[08:30] <slavik> Quan-Time: something is seriously wrong
[08:30] <jtibau> dli: I'm looking for them
[08:30] <dj-fu> does it open .flp?
[08:30] <hyperstream> listening to them today they are leet as man. we should kick that stuff again
[08:30] <slavik> try to install nvidia-glx back
[08:30] <dli> meshe no :(
[08:30] <slavik> remove the other thing
[08:30] <Quan-Time> exactually, thus my problem.. xorg.conf problems ya think ?
[08:30] <varsendagger> waht is a fruity loops clone?
[08:30] <hyperstream> no .xml and .mmp
[08:30] <cowboyfeng> fuck ubuntu fuck linux back to widows at least it works
[08:30] <|lostbyte|> meshe: its still in flight 3 right ?
[08:30] <hyperstream> its exactly the same tho
[08:30] <Quan-Time> should i paste it on the pastebin thing for someone to check ?
[08:30] <Android_D> I am trying to install zoneminder and I need to type the following: " mysql mysql < db/zm_create.sql ".  I am being told that the mysql command is not found. why is this happening?
[08:30] <meshe> beta 2
[08:30] <dli> jtibau, FAI docs should point you to the right point
[08:30] <hyperstream> almost.
[08:30] <|lostbyte|> cowboyfeng: i feel sorry for you..
[08:31] <jtibau> dli: my internet connection is pretty slow so...
[08:31] <slavik> !ops
[08:31] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[08:31] <cowboyfeng> me too
[08:31] <hyperstream> gui is a lil messyer. but the plugins look good
[08:31] <tritium> what, slavik ?
[08:31] <slavik> cowboyfeng is trolling ...
[08:31] <dj-fu> have a look in a few, installing kde right now
[08:31] <dli> jtibau, I didn't touch FAI for long :(
[08:31] <hyperstream> still needs a crap load of work
[08:31] <hyperstream> writting by a german person
[08:31] <slavik> ty
[08:31] <rob> ?
[08:31] <dj-fu> Android_D, do you have mysql client installed/mysql server installed
[08:31] <hyperstream> if i could get FX gui to pop up id be pumping
[08:31] <hyperstream> but i cannot (F9) :/
[08:31] <hyperstream> why kde?
[08:31] <fid> so when it says nessus returned an empty report thats a good thing right?
[08:31] <jtibau> dli: ok thanks
[08:31] <dj-fu> testing
[08:32] <B_166-ER-X> help, i have a video-digicam, wich uses a usb port to connect to my pc, when i tried it first a few days ago, ubuntu was detecting it with no problem, but now, i cannot see my cam anywhere, the disk mounter doesnt see the usb port being activated, although my digicam knows she is plugged in... what could it be ?
[08:32] <hyperstream> ahh
[08:32] <hyperstream> with xgl?
[08:32] <tritium> man, take your eye off the screen, and stuff like that happens...
[08:32] <meshe> dli: can i build it off of the source that comes with breezy?  or should i do the kernel.org version?
[08:32] <slavik> tritium: what stuff?
[08:32] <dj-fu> hyperstream, no, just 2d
[08:32] <intelikey> fid read the nessus docs
[08:32] <tritium> slavik: such as cowboyfeng
[08:32] <dli> meshe, I think either should work
[08:32] <slavik> oh
[08:32] <fid> you could have unplugged it before unmounting the cam
[08:32] <meshe> ok, kewl
[08:32] <slavik> tritium: make me an op ;)
[08:33] <tritium> slavik: we've got enough, thanks ;)
[08:33] <fid> sometimes that makes it freak out it did with mine anyways
[08:33] <B_166-ER-X> fid ?
[08:33] <slavik> darn, was worth a try
[08:33] <hyperstream> sweet
[08:33] <fid> ?
[08:33] <tritium> !tell slavik about ircrules
[08:33] <B_166-ER-X> hm, i usually think to unmount it before..but 'IF' its that  , is there something i can do ?
[08:33] <meshe> dli: thanks for the help :)
[08:33] <hyperstream> rotf finaly lernt how to mount vfats so my user uid and guid could have write permissions. how lame huh ?
[08:34] <Quan-Time> should i be trying different nvidia drivers ? is there anything else i can try ?
[08:34] <sn9> hyperstream: uid=1000
[08:34] <hyperstream> rw,uid=xxxx,guid=xxxx :D
[08:34] <slavik> tritium: I didn't ask :P I suggested
[08:34] <dli> meshe, no problem, tell me it works or not
[08:34] <fid> i thought all the nvidia were the same drivers
[08:34] <hyperstream> sn9,  i already know
[08:34] <tritium> heh
[08:34] <fid> like they just have one bundle or something
[08:34] <dli> Quan-Time, try the driver from nvidia.com
[08:34] <sn9> now you know again
[08:35] <hyperstream> sn9,  do you not know how to read? i said i finaly lernt....
[08:35] <tritium> Quan-Time: you're using the ubuntu packaged ones?
[08:35] <dj-fu> hyperstream, moment of truth, do they have Exec permissions? 
[08:35] <Quan-Time> yer ubuntu packaged ones
[08:35] <Quan-Time> kk ill try em
[08:35] <hyperstream> yes
[08:35] <tritium> we don't advise the nvidia.com download
[08:35] <hyperstream> :D
[08:35] <fid> I was having problems with my nvidia drivers and I did the nvidia download and it worked fine
[08:35] <fid> or wait now
[08:36] <fid> no nevermind
[08:36] <intelikey> nah.   nv is working fine.
[08:36] <fid> that was my soundblaster my bad
[08:36] <fid> haha
[08:36] <tritium> !enter
[08:36] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:36] <Fuelbottle> has anyone tried the nvidia drivers from the nvidia webpage?
[08:36] <fid> I think I did
[08:37] <Charles> !What do i type in terminal to move files from one computer to the next?
[08:37] <ubotu> Charles: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[08:37] <tritium> Fuelbottle: yes, but they're not installed as a package, so you don't have the advantages of a managed .deb
[08:37] <Quan-Time> tritium, i know you dont advise it, but is there anything else i can try ? in synapsis it has 2 usable versions.. nvidia-glx (which i use) or nvidia-settings (which auto uninstalls nvidia-glx)
[08:37] <slavik> Charles: you want ftp of sorts
[08:37] <Quan-Time> thats how i screwed up last time..
[08:37] <Charles> i got a crossover cable
[08:37] <tritium> Quan-Time: what is unusable about it?
[08:37] <cius> anyone have trouble getting eterm installed through synaptic on dapper beta 2 after adding universe repos?
[08:37] <Charles> i just want to transfer some mp3s
[08:37] <tritium> cius: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[08:38] <slavik> Charles: ooh, that's beyond me ... but you can network the two systems ...
[08:38] <Fuelbottle> tritium: but since nvidia-glx randomly crashes my computer, installing the ones from the nvidia would be my best bet, right?
[08:38] <sn9> Charles: are the two machines connected somehow?
[08:38] <Quan-Time> tritium, when i changed to the nvidia-settings i cant get back into X
[08:38] <Charles> crossover cable
[08:38] <tritium> Fuelbottle: I never advise that, no
[08:38] <Quan-Time> i was auska before, and you were helping me get back into X
[08:38] <tritium> Quan-Time: what was wrong with nvidia-glx?
[08:38] <slavik> ahh
[08:39] <sn9> Charles: you need to configure the ethernet on both ends to use static addresses
[08:39] <fid> man for a bunch l33t hax0rs 2600 is always down
[08:39] <fid> hah
[08:39] <tritium> Quan-Time: you didn't mention that you installed nvidia-settings
[08:39] <Quan-Time> tritium, q3 wont run smooth..
[08:39] <intelikey> cius  i'v had to  apt-get update  twice   every time....  don't know why.      apt-get update ;apt-get update   then install
[08:39] <Charles> ok
[08:39] <Quan-Time> and why exactually is my CPU 100% ?
[08:39] <jtibau> dli: sorry for the bother, I'm a newbie... I read the man file for apt-move and think I can figure out how to work it out from now on. I really appreciate the atention, ubuntu does have a great comunity. Thanks sincerily
[08:39] <slavik> jtibau: ty
[08:39] <Charles> where do i do that
[08:39] <Charles> one is ubuntu and ones debian
[08:40] <tritium> Charles: "man interfaces" to read up a bit on it
[08:40] <dli> jtibau, just ask again, if you get questions again
[08:40] <sn9> Charles: use ifconfig
[08:40] <hyperstream> system -> admin -> networking / networking tools
[08:40] <Charles> ok
[08:40] <intelikey> also notice a few installs that errored out and  apt-get install -f    to complete them
[08:40] <q00p> does this work for anyone? echo "<?php print 'test'; exit; ?>" > test.php; php4-cgi ./test.php
[08:40] <hyperstream> would be the easyest method
[08:40] <jtibau> slavik: :) I'm not used to irc jargon either hehe... what does ty mean?
[08:40] <slavik> thank you
[08:40] <slavik> :)
[08:40] <jtibau> sweet
[08:40] <jtibau> see ya later
[08:40] <tritium> jtibau: good for you!  IRC destroys grammar.
[08:40] <Quan-Time> umm ok
[08:40] <Quan-Time> that was freaky as hell
[08:40] <jtibau> haha
[08:40] <slavik> there is also omfg, rtfm (can be heard in #gentoo a lot)
[08:41] <dj-fu> gentoo > you
[08:41] <tritium> Quan-Time: what was freaky?
[08:41] <slavik> ggbbqkthxbye is my favorite
[08:41] <intelikey> q00p what error you getting ?
[08:41] <sn9> in gentoo-land, linux installs you!
[08:41] <jtibau> haha!! I can barely guess what all that means
[08:41] <q00p> intelikey: no input file specified
[08:41] <dli> Quan-Time, "top"
[08:41] <Charles> wow its gonna take some time to read that man page
[08:42] <Android_D> how do I get the "mysql" command to work?
[08:42] <Mark987> i'm impressed by most distros' download speeds... amazing
[08:42] <cius> thanks intelikey, I'll try that
[08:42] <jtibau> rtfm: read the f.. man??? posibly???
[08:42] <mc|amb> hi, could someone recommend a download manager please
[08:42] <sn9> jtibau: yes
[08:42] <roryy> Fine Manual
[08:42] <q00p> intelikey: actually, this is f*'ed. php4-cgi -h does that too
[08:42] <Charles> im so lost
[08:42] <intelikey> q00p drop it in a script and see if it works,  it may be bash trying to intrupret to much
[08:42] <jtibau> haha I might get used to this
[08:43] <q00p> intelikey: can't -- it won't read any script
[08:43] <jtibau> gotta go... I need to get that repository to work
[08:43] <q00p> that's what i'm saying ;-) php4-cgi is ignoring all command line stuffs
[08:43] <Quan-Time> heh.. fancy that, it worked.. q3ded had 2 copies loaded, and was taking 100% cpu
[08:43] <Quan-Time> killed both of those.. BAM everything worked fine ;)
[08:43] <q00p> intelikey: hm. lemme try csh, maybe you're right about bash...
[08:43] <tritium> Quan-Time: heh :)
[08:43] <jtibau> I'll be back though, nice talking to you all
[08:43] <Quan-Time> now to install wolfet :)
[08:44] <q00p> intelikey: nope. csh does same thing. php4-cgi -h also gives no input file specified
[08:44] <Charles> most static ips are the same right
[08:44] <tritium> Charles: your two machines will have to have different IPs
[08:44] <Charles> hows do i retrive the ips
[08:44] <q00p> intelikey: ok that's weird. it seems to be that cgi vars will do that
[08:44] <intelikey> q00p i know some bash but i don't know squat about php
[08:44] <tritium> Charles: it's your network, right?  You assign them yourself ;)
[08:45] <Charles> ok
[08:45] <Charles> well hmm
[08:45] <Quan-Time> trying to install wolfET linux, returns the error "The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1"
[08:45] <Quan-Time> but its installed.. ideas / work arounds ?
[08:45] <sn9> Charles: on one machine, do "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 up" on the other do "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 up"
[08:46] <intelikey> Quan-Time b-e installed ?
[08:46] <q00p> intelikey: ;-) seems to be that setting just some of the env vars for cgi will cause them all to be searched ;-)
[08:47] <Quan-Time> intelikey, *blink* ?
[08:47] <dli> Quan-Time, the driver works now?
[08:47] <q00p> Intelikey -- got it thanks!!
[08:47] <q00p> ;-)
[08:47] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, you running 32bit Ubuntu?
[08:47] <Quan-Time> dli, yup
[08:47] <Quan-Time> Madpilot, yup.
[08:47] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, ET should just install, then - have you see the wiki page for it?
[08:47] <dli> Quan-Time, how much do you get in glxgears?
[08:47] <hyphenated> I don't recall any trouble installing et on breezy
[08:47] <Quan-Time> already knew about the amd64 "issues" with some q3 engine games. thus i went the 32bit way.
[08:48] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[08:48] <Quan-Time> dli, not that its a benchtest, but just shy of 21,000fps
[08:48] <tritium> good night
[08:48] <Quan-Time> nighty night ;)
[08:48] <dli> Quan-Time, now, you are happy, did you use the nvidia.com file?
[08:49] <black_hk> hello is there any programs like <b> Dreamweaver</b> for linux ? I am using Ubuntu - Breezy.
[08:49] <intelikey> hehhe i get about 34 fps   so there  ;P
[08:49] <Quan-Time> synapsis nvidia-glx
[08:49] <slavik> Quan-Time: synaptic :)
[08:49] <sn9> black_hk: there is nVu
[08:49] <Mark987> wow... the centos torrent has got to be the fastest torrent i've ever seen... can't believe it... 1125 KB/sec, like 9mbit!
[08:50] <amorphous_> hello peeps...
[08:50] <slavik> Mark 10mbit actually
[08:50] <Mark987> that has got to be the closest i've ever been to maxing out my internet connection
[08:50] <black_hk> sn9, ok i will check it out. so I can edit php files in graphical mode - i mean the html portion in the php file.
[08:50] <black_hk> sn9, thank you :)
[08:50] <amorphous_> i'm having problems with apt-get - when i try to update it gives me a 'GPG error' saying 'unknown error executing gpgv'... searching google it's not massively common, but they all put it down to mirror errors... chin
[08:50] <amorphous_> any offers? (it's mighty quiet in here...??
[08:50] <roryy> quiet ?
[08:51] <Mark987> slackern well... 1125*8 is 9 or so
[08:51] <Mark987> my connection's 10, i doubt i'd ever fully reach it
[08:51] <slavik> hmm, it is
[08:51] <roryy> amorphous_: you could try cleaning out the downloaded lists
[08:51] <slavik> optimum?
[08:51] <blind> When using unace to ... well, to un-ace a file, i get "File compressed with unknown method. Decompression not possible."
[08:51] <slavik> oh, 1250 is 10
[08:51] <slavik> heh
[08:51] <Mark987> close enough anyways :)
[08:51] <roryy> amorphous_: they're in /var/lib/apt/lists
[08:52] <slavik> blind: a new version of ace?
[08:52] <Charles> I typed the ifconfig and the ip on my other computer and it errored
[08:52] <slavik> Mark987: optimum?
[08:52] <roryy> amorphous_: sometimes i get an apparently complete file stuck in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial -- no idea why apt does that
[08:52] <Mark987> optimum?
[08:52] <blind> i don't know. i think winrar does ace, and my windows comp is upstairs, soooooo.
[08:52] <blind> brb
[08:52] <slavik> blind: wine :D
[08:52] <Mark987> oh
[08:53] <slavik> blind: winrar does do ace
[08:53] <Toba> I should be able to change the command button clicked sound in system > preferences > sound right?
[08:53] <Toba> I just changed it.
[08:53] <Toba> and it's still using the same sound
[08:53] <slavik> Toba: you might need to restart ...
[08:54] <Toba> ugh, why
[08:54] <Toba> that's retarded
[08:54] <slavik> dunno, notice I said might
[08:54] <Charles> !how do i get my network up on the debian side?
[08:54] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Charles
[08:54] <Toba> ><
[08:54] <slavik> meaning I am not entirely sure
[08:54] <Toba> I thought linux was supposed to be unlike windows in that way
[08:54] <Toba> damnit
[08:54] <roryy> Toba: what did you change it to?
[08:54] <roryy> Toba: it seems to work here
[08:54] <Charles> how do i get my network up on the debian side?
[08:54] <Toba> something else, why should it matter?
[08:54] <sn9> Charles: same way
[08:55] <sn9> Charles: on one machine, do "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 up" on the other do "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 up"
[08:55] <Toba> it's just a different not as harsh sounding gtk-events sound
[08:55] <Toba> :/
[08:55] <roryy> Toba: well, the 'activate' sound seems to be the same
[08:55] <slavik> Charles: I would say same way as ubuntu, if not try to ask debian people ...
[08:55] <Toba> yeah activate is
[08:55] <Toba> I noticed that
[08:55] <intelikey> ] this is not M$ reboot   with BSOD   this is linux with  kernel panic  if something is really hosed.
[08:55] <Toba> switched it to toggled actually
[08:55] <Quan-Time> hmm... i need to copy a directory into /usr/local/games/wolfet/
[08:55] <black_hk> Hi guys some money matters : i have been using a lot of free/open source programs for my job and for business purpose. I didn't pay anything so far. But these programs are fantastic. For example : Ubuntu OS, Openoffice, XMMS, Bluefish... etc etc. Anyone knows who is paying for the development and other expenses? I was wondering !!!
[08:55] <amorphous_> i'm having problems with apt-get - when i try to update it gives me a 'GPG error' saying 'unknown error executing gpgv'... searching google it's not massively common, but they all put it down to mirror errors... i've changed the mirror... no joy. anyone have any ideas?
[08:55] <amorphous_> does apt break itself if i try to to a dpkg install and dependencies fail?
[08:55] <Quan-Time> but i cant... sudo ?
[08:55] <roryy> Toba: i changed it to 'card shuffle' .. oh. hm
[08:55] <Toba> the play button plays the right thing
[08:55] <Toba> but actually clicking stuff still uses the old one
[08:55] <Toba> btw I really hate that default
[08:56] <roryy> Toba: yeah. maybe 'command button' means something else
[08:56] <Toba> not smooth at all
[08:56] <slavik> black_hk: Mark Shuttleworth is paying for Ubuntu devs, google pays some OOo devs I think
[08:56] <Toba> roryy: :/ maybe
[08:56] <intelikey> Quan-Time is your sudoer broken ?
[08:56] <slavik> black_hk: we get paid nothing :(
[08:56] <Madpilot> black_hk, Sun pays for OOo - a lot of projects these days take donations via PayPal, too
[08:56] <Toba> there are only three user interface events
[08:56] <slavik> oh and google pays one gaim dev
[08:56] <Toba> and they are all set to not what is playing
[08:56] <Toba> :(
[08:57] <black_hk> I see. Thank you guys. So how can I do some help with these projects? I am not a full time developer. My job is sales.
[08:58] <black_hk> Its so amazing that some programs are much better than those paid ones !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:58] <roryy> !contribute
[08:58] <ubotu> [contribute]  at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[08:58] <Toba> yeah I know black_hk
[08:58] <Toba> it's pretty cool
[08:58] <intelikey> sell linux ?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> slavik: only some ubuntu devs get paid - most dont
[08:58] <Toba> yeah
[08:58] <roryy> black_hk: there are non-coding tasks too -- see that web page
[08:58] <Toba> linux development is mostly volunteer
[08:58] <Charles> sn9, it said i have no such device
[08:58] <Quan-Time> intelikey, ok now. i had a moment of retardedness
[08:58] <cornernote_> hello, i want to remove gdm and just replace it with something like "su myuser startx" .. i added my script to rc2.d and removed gdm from there, now when i boot it tells me the user doesnt have perms to startx
[08:59] <slavik> Hobbsee: yes
[08:59] <slavik> Hobbsee: although that is sad
[08:59] <sn9> Charles: ouch. debian or ubuntu?
[08:59] <Hobbsee> slavik: true, you cant pay everyone though
[08:59] <intelikey> Quan-Time we don't all run at the same speed....  :)
[08:59] <Toba> cornernote_: that's because... the user does not have perms to startx.
[08:59] <slavik> Hobbsee: which is sad
[08:59] <black_hk> ok I will check. Thank you. He he he I feel bad if I use those for no fee and some other people are putting so much effort to make these programs. And the support I get in the net, its first class most of the times :)
[08:59] <Toba> that's supposed to get started by root
[08:59] <Charles> sn9, debian
[08:59] <cornernote_> Toba: if i login then i can startx
[08:59] <black_hk> I will start with Ubuntu.
[08:59] <slavik> Hobbsee: if I was ruler of world, I would give cheese to everyone :D
[08:59] <Toba> cornernote_: huh...
[08:59] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[08:59] <Quan-Time> intelikey, you being intel, wow.. your like what. 2 years behind ?
[08:59] <Charles> sn9, ubuntu worked both times
[09:00] <cornernote_> if i login with myuser i can startx... just not in my rc2.d
[09:00] <sn9> Charles: do you know which network card is in the debian box?
[09:00] <slavik> black_hk: read Stallman's story of how free software was there first
[09:00] <cornernote_> whats the difference ?
[09:00] <intelikey> startx  is suid  so users can use startx  to start X  :)
[09:00] <roryy> Toba: it looks like the sound preferences are disconnected from reality ;).  It's possibly worth reporting as a bug if you're using dapper
[09:00] <Toba> eh?
[09:00] <Toba> I'm using 5.10
[09:00] <Toba> not 6.04 (that's dapper right)
[09:00] <Charles> sn9, intel pro 100
[09:00] <slavik> dapper is 6.06
[09:00] <Mark987> slavik free is nice, but too much open source coders can't manage to make money either, and that does suck
[09:00] <Toba> yeah, I'm on breezy
[09:01] <black_hk> Thanks to all you guys. We - the non-computer-pros really appreciate it. I will help with those non-programming tasks, especially giving publicity - something I can do very well :)
[09:01] <slavik> Mark987: yes
[09:01] <roryy> Toba: yeah.   dapper (6.06) uses a new version of gnome
[09:01] <black_hk> slackern, Ok I will google for that.
[09:01] <Mark987> freebsd (and hence openssh) is having those kinds of issues
[09:01] <roryy> Toba: unfortunately only critical bug-fixes are applied to already released versions of ubuntu
[09:01] <Toba> ehhh, I'm probably going to rebuild my system entirely in a few months anyway
[09:01] <black_hk> slavik, Yes I will google for Stallman
[09:01] <slavik> Mark987: didn't freebsd get something from apple?
[09:01] <hyperstream> Charles, have you tried #debian ?
[09:01] <Toba> speaking of stallman, I met him once
[09:01] <Toba> he sold me an FSF pin
[09:02] <Mark987> didn't hear about that, think they got some from mozilla though
[09:02] <Toba> no
[09:02] <Toba> apple got something from bsd
[09:02] <intelikey> slavik or was that the other way around ?
[09:02] <cornernote_> so can anynone tell me how to allow startx to be run by a user at startup ?
[09:02] <Toba> i.e. their kernel
[09:02] <black_hk> FSF pin? For what?
[09:02] <hyperstream> Charles, did you compile the kernel to have support for your network card or you using a default kernel image?
[09:02] <Toba> black_hk: merch.
[09:02] <slavik> intelikey: money wise
[09:02] <Madpilot> folks, can the non-tech chat move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[09:02] <dli> cornernote_, better to run gdm :(
[09:02] <brum76> hi, I am trying to install sun-j2re on breezy , but for some reason the pkg remains listed as virtual. I have enabled universe,multiverse, backports, and all that I could find in the /etc/apt.sources.list and ran the update . What else should I do ?
[09:02] <Toba> Madpilot: oops, sorry
[09:02] <Charles> defualt
[09:02] <slavik> black_hk: fsf =free software foundation
[09:02] <black_hk> Toba, you mean you mechandise those pins?
[09:03] <jmibanez> hullo... i have a "bug" (more like a quirk) which i found a fix for online-- should i post it to malone? or should i just post it to the wiki?
[09:03] <Charles> sn9, default
[09:03] <Toba> yes bl
[09:03] <hyperstream> Charles, try #debian
[09:03] <intelikey> slavik oh i don't know anything about that.   i don't do money.
[09:03] <slavik> k
[09:03] <Toba> btw #ubuntu-offtopic for further discussion
[09:03] <sn9> Charles: modprobe eepro100 on debian
[09:03] <Madpilot> jmibanez, might as well put it in Malone, w/ your fix
[09:03] <black_hk> oh Free Software Foundation.... Sorry I thought its some pins.
[09:03] <slavik> brum76: go to java site and click on manual install, their guide is very good
[09:03] <Charles> sn9, did that just did nothing
[09:03] <jmibanez> Madpilot: fwiw, it's a quirk of a snd-intel8x0 sound card--
[09:03] <hyperstream> dmesg
[09:03] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell brum76 about restrictedformats
[09:04] <brum76> slavik: yes, that's one way, but it shows up as a pkg. Secondly, it is not the only pkg that has that issue.
[09:04] <sn9> Charles: good. now try the ifconfig again
[09:04] <slavik> brum76: "virtual" packages are packages that some other package lists as a dependency but the package doesn't actually exist
[09:05] <intelikey> charles in linux  no error means "no error"      most of the time.
[09:05] <Quan-Time> ok one last problem.. obviosuly i have to set up my config with quake3 / wolfet, and it resides in /usr/local/games/quake3
[09:05] <cci> hi there. may i know where can i find out the packages included in ubunto 6.06?
[09:05] <Quan-Time> in the quake3 console, i need to save my config, with /writeconfig [configname] 
[09:05] <Quan-Time> but it throws an error saying it cant..
[09:05] <Quan-Time> do i load the game with sudo or somethin ? so it can get write permissions ?
[09:05] <sn9> cci: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:05] <tritium_away> cci: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/ (in the future, #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions)
[09:06] <intelikey> Quan-Time something wrong with your sudoer ?
[09:06] <intelikey> :)
[09:06] <slavik> Quan-Time: install the game into your user dir
[09:06] <cci> tks
[09:06] <slavik> or start it with sudo, yes.
[09:06] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, you might need to change permissions on whatever folder Q3 keeps it's user files in (~/.quake3, or something?)
[09:06] <slavik> night all
[09:06] <Quan-Time> gotcha
[09:06] <Quan-Time> Madpilot, not really sure
[09:06] <slavik> intelikey: change your nick to amdikey :P
[09:07] <slavik> Madpilot: don't ya crash overnight :P
[09:07] <Madpilot> slavik, haven't yet ;)
[09:07] <Quan-Time> Madpilot, i know where the game is. but when im in game, i dont have write permissions..
[09:07] <intelikey> slavik my nick is a froidian spelling of a real word....
[09:07] <cci> does Ubuntu use XFree86 or X.org 6.8?
[09:07] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, where is the game trying to write to?
[09:07] <intelikey> sound it out.
[09:07] <Madpilot> ccc_, Xorg
[09:07] <Quan-Time> can i launch the game with sudo to make it have write permissions ? once i edited the config the way i want, i should be set really and not need to do it again
[09:08] <cci> cool
[09:08] <Luke> x.org
[09:08] <Quan-Time> Madpilot, /usr/local/games/quake3/
[09:08] <Quan-Time> its trying to update config.cfg
[09:08] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, running a game w/ sudo sounds like a bad idea...
[09:08] <tritium_away> cci: dapper will have X.org 7.0
[09:08] <Quan-Time> Madpilot, i suspected it owuld be bad idea, thus ive not done it
[09:08] <Charles> it says  error getting interfaces
[09:08] <cci> i got a dumb question: why is Ubuntu installation ISO just a CD, while Fedora requires 4 CDs?
[09:08] <roryy> Madpilot: i think it (fairly) often happens to enable writing of system-wide score files
[09:09] <Quan-Time> cci, bloatware
[09:09] <roryy> Madpilot: e.g., i *think* nethack runs suid
[09:09] <cci> hahahah
[09:09] <zyphrexi> anyone know when dapper will be stable?
[09:09] <Madpilot> roryy, not sure, really
[09:09] <bth_> how do i add a service that will run at startup?
[09:09] <Madpilot> !+dapper
[09:09] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[09:09] <Quan-Time> zyphrexi, when more ppl test it ?
[09:09] <sn9> bth_: which service?
[09:10] <zyphrexi> june 1.. blah
[09:10] <cci> do u think Ubuntu 6.06 can fit in a 3.5GB partition?
[09:10] <Charles> sn9, i dont know whats going on so
[09:10] <cci> im thinking of installing it to an old machine
[09:10] <Luke> cci: of course
[09:10] <cci> great :)
[09:10] <bth_> umm well i want to have svnserve start on boot.  i also want to have a Zope instance I have start on boot.
[09:10] <sn9> Charles: did ifconfig work the second time?
[09:10] <zyphrexi> breezy killed my dapper drive
[09:10] <zyphrexi> there was a post about it in the forums where i whined for a while
[09:10] <s1> video killed the radiostar too
[09:10] <zyphrexi> yeah
[09:11] <Quan-Time> anyone know of a program like HLSW (game search engine, with ping / player names, and you can double click a server and it auto launches your game and connects to that server)
[09:11] <zyphrexi> foremost is an awesome tool, but sadly not everything was saved
[09:11] <sn9> bth_: man update-rc.d
[09:11] <Charles> sn9, i can get the ifconfig up but i cant do the ip and up
[09:11] <zyphrexi> happypenguin is a good place for gametype stuff
[09:11] <zyphrexi> Charles, you mean ifup?
[09:11] <s1> Quan-Time: xqf I think
[09:11] <cci> oh, say i installed 6.06 beta2. In june the official 6.06 would be out. so how would i upgrade to that version? thru the installation CD? or apt-get?
[09:11] <sn9> Charles: still?
[09:11] <Charles> what
[09:11] <zyphrexi> sudo ifup eth0
[09:11] <zyphrexi> or whatever your network device is
[09:12] <zyphrexi> cci sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:12] <zyphrexi> do that after you gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <zyphrexi> and change all instances of breezy to dapper
[09:13] <cci> thanks
[09:13] <marsh> roryy, sorry, xchat probs... I deleted all but 'partial' in /var/lib/apt/lists... but same error... is this because i have lost the gpg keys?
[09:13] <zyphrexi> np
[09:13] <Charles> lol
[09:13] <cci> im new to Ubuntu. I'm a Gentoo person. :)
[09:13] <marsh> roryy, can i get them back?
[09:13] <roryy> marsh: you lost the keys ? ;)
[09:13] <zyphrexi> ah gentoo frightens and confuses me
[09:13] <intelikey> zyphrexi that doesn't explain how to update the dapper pre release to the dapper release
[09:13] <roryy> marsh: yeah, you can use gpg to reload them
[09:13] <cci> heh
[09:13] <cci> oh!
[09:13] <roryy> marsh: just a sec, let me find the wiki page
[09:14] <zyphrexi> intelikey, what other way could there be?
[09:14] <cci> intelikey, so how would you upgrade?
[09:14] <marsh> sorry roryy this is amorphous - xchat logged me out & wont let me in again using amorphous
[09:14] <cci> or the apt-get way would be sufficient?
[09:14] <imbrandon> apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:14] <zyphrexi> cci, apt-get is ubuntus package management system
[09:14] <cci> Oh, cool
[09:14] <intelikey> you would just install the patches and package updates as they come out cci
[09:15] <zyphrexi> ahem
[09:15] <zyphrexi> as I said
[09:15] <zyphrexi> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:15] <roryy> marsh: ok, this is the page i was thinking of: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary   -- but
[09:15] <cci> ph
[09:15] <roryy> marsh: but, don't use those key-ids
[09:15] <zyphrexi> one line is enough
[09:15] <marsh> ok - let me check it out....
[09:16] <cci> alright, thanks guys! i'm off! :)
[09:16] <zyphrexi> note though, wine doesn't work in dapper currently for some system archetecture kernels
[09:16] <Daskies> Anyone know where to find .mp4 codeces?
[09:16] <Charles> sn9, so what do you think
[09:16] <intelikey> zyphrexi it the next statement that i was having trubble with "after you edit your sources.list"   that is not part of this equation.....  unless i'm missing something.
[09:16] <sn9> Charles: are you root on debian?
[09:16] <Charles> yep
[09:16] <zyphrexi> it's late here, give me a break
[09:16] <Charles> is that the problem
[09:16] <roryy> marsh: they should be on the CD, too
[09:16] <zyphrexi> it'll all work out anyway
[09:17] <intelikey> hehhe yeah
[09:17] <sn9> Charles: and it still won't take the ip after modprobe?
[09:17] <Charles> nope
[09:17] <zyphrexi> besides, typing sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is fun
[09:17] <zyphrexi> I do it all the time for absolutely no reason at all... great fun
[09:18] <zyphrexi> no sudo?
[09:18] <zyphrexi> ubuntu uses sudo
[09:18] <sn9> Charles: pastebin the output of "ifconfig -a" on debian
[09:18] <holycow> hydrogen rox
[09:18] <holycow> woot!
[09:18] <intelikey> mounted nosuid  sudo can't work anyway.
[09:18] <zyphrexi> i've never gotten hydrogen to work right, jackd is wierd
[09:18] <holycow> i just apt-get installed it ... weird
[09:18] <zyphrexi> lmms is really nice
[09:19] <Charles> sn9, up broadcast running multicase
[09:19] <holycow> what is that?
[09:19] <holycow> well i guess its time to install it :)
[09:19] <zyphrexi> well i also have two soundcards, which can be frustrating
[09:19] <zyphrexi> lmms? it's like fruity loops
[09:19] <zyphrexi> it's awesome
[09:19] <sn9> Charles: everything
[09:19] <holycow> yeah i haven't mastered the whole sound subsystem theing either
[09:19] <zyphrexi> heh heh
[09:19] <holycow> zyphrexi, oh so like hydrogen
[09:19] <holycow> *cough*
[09:19] <holycow> :)
[09:20] <zyphrexi> eh, I thought hydrogen was just a drum roll thingamajigger
[09:20] <zyphrexi> wait i think i got it on here someplace
[09:20] <Charles> dude i cant its on my non internet computer
[09:20] <holycow> zyphrexi, i have this thing in the back of my mind to hire someone to write a visual sounds subsystem modifier thingy
[09:21] <roryy> marsh: if you can follow that, the key IDs you want are 437D05B5 79164387 FBB75451
[09:21] <intelikey> zyphrexi can what i run really be called ubuntu ?   i dont have ubuntu-base or ubuntu-desktop  no sudo  no gnome   it's  blackbox with (kde)kicker    and a very highly customized mase system   every thing from sysvinit up is modified
[09:21] <holycow> where you visually connect and disconnect various systems, daemons, drivers, etc
[09:21] <zyphrexi> thingys are good
[09:21] <holycow> intelikey, not rally :)
[09:21] <zyphrexi> intelikey, if you installed from an ubuntu install cd, it's ubuntu
[09:22] <jmibanez> filed bug #42194 ... anyone have the same issue?
[09:22] <zyphrexi> if it uses the ubuntu repos, it's ubuntu
[09:22] <tritium> what's the issue, jmibanez ?
[09:22] <holycow> intelikey, its like asking if you replaced every single component on  your car with one exactly the same, would it be the same car in the end :)
[09:22] <intelikey> zyphrexi  i did install the server-install  of hoary but i up'd to dapper from there.
[09:22] <zyphrexi> holycow, no but it'd still be a cow
[09:22] <zyphrexi> er, car
[09:22] <jmibanez> tritium: alsa: 'master' mixer control does nothing, but 'headphones' mixer control acts as a master
[09:22] <holycow> lol
[09:22] <zyphrexi> told you i was tired
[09:22] <intelikey> holycow or one a little different even
[09:23] <zyphrexi> lol
[09:23] <holycow> enough for you for one day
[09:23] <Madpilot> !info cowsay
[09:23] <ubotu> cowsay: (A configurable talking cow), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 3.03-6 (breezy), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 268 kB
[09:23] <zyphrexi> no it's linux
[09:23] <zyphrexi> i'm on linux too much
[09:23] <jmibanez> tritium: affects at least intel8x0; fix is to add 'options snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only' to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[09:23] <zyphrexi> i have no life
[09:23] <Madpilot> zyphrexi, "This is your brain on Linux!"
[09:23] <tritium> jmibanez: I've not seen that problem before
[09:23] <holycow> i think the only thing that distinguishes distros in the end is packaging ..
[09:23] <holycow> thus if you use ubuntu repos, then its probably still ubuntu
[09:23] <jmibanez> tritium: affected my laptop
[09:23] <zyphrexi> ooh let's not forget configuring
[09:24] <tritium> holycow: what about the community?  ;)
[09:24] <zyphrexi> slackware's configuration is awesome
[09:24] <holycow> what you guys arent a figment of zyphrexi imagination?
[09:24] <zyphrexi> ubuntu does have a good community
[09:24] <holycow> hotdamn
[09:24] <holycow> tritium, you may be onto something
[09:24] <holycow> >_<
[09:24] <tritium> :)
[09:24] <intelikey> so holycar what drives you anyway  ???   :)
[09:24] <holycow> actually ubuntu now has the best wiki too
[09:25] <holycow> gentoo used to have the best wiki for info, ubuntu's is far more comprehensive now imho
[09:25] <zyphrexi> holycar?
[09:25] <zyphrexi> popemobile?
[09:25] <holycow> lol
[09:25] <holycow> i ain't no poopmobile!Q
[09:25] <holycow> i mean
[09:25] <holycow> ...
[09:25] <holycow> oh nm
[09:25] <zyphrexi> yo
[09:25] <intelikey> lol
[09:25] <zyphrexi> ubuntu was at the top for a while, is what i heard
[09:26] <intelikey> i just thought if the car would still be a cow that...... yell you know.
[09:26] <zyphrexi> for community growth
[09:26] <intelikey> well
[09:26] <zyphrexi> no
[09:26] <Madpilot> !offtopic
[09:26] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[09:26] <zyphrexi> i don't
[09:26] <beta_m> now that microsoft starting to clamp down on pirating of windows, i think ubuntu can catch more users
[09:26] <zyphrexi> werd
[09:26] <zyphrexi> windows bites anywho
[09:26] <beta_m> ok, let's go to offtopic chan
[09:28] <holycow> btw, compiz-aiglx on dapper is fun
[09:28] <Quan-Time> onboard sound (nf4) and i dont have audio in games
[09:28] <zyphrexi> aiglx
[09:29] <zyphrexi> that's ati right?
[09:29] <ayabara> any users of gparted livecd here? I was told by someone to use that instead of partition tragic.
[09:29] <holycow> no thats the fedor project
[09:29] <zyphrexi> i used it
[09:29] <holycow> glx is the novell project, originally coded for compiz
[09:29] <zyphrexi> i advocate it, ayabara
[09:29] <holycow> aiglx isn't supposed to work with compiz but someone wrote a patch :)
[09:29] <intelikey> i abdocate
[09:30] <holycow> gparted livecd? what does that mean? ubuntu livecd with it installed?
[09:30] <marsh> roryy - sorry to be a pita, but do you know what the hostname is for the gpgkeys?
[09:30] <ayabara> zyphrexi: ok. the first task I need to do is to shrink an ntfs partition (with data) on an external hd
[09:30] <roryy> marsh: you mean for the keyserver ?
[09:30] <ayabara> holycow: think it's just gparted in livecd format
[09:30] <roryy> marsh: try hkp://subkeys.pgp.net  (that's from the gpg manual)
[09:31] <holycow> *hmm*
[09:31] <intelikey> ayabara ooh yuch.....
[09:31] <roryy> marsh: something like 'gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437d05b5'
[09:31] <zyphrexi> i don't think it works with ntfs very well
[09:31] <holycow> zyphrexi, what did you say that app is called? lms?
[09:31] <dai> does anyone knows how to play mp3 on this system??
[09:31] <zyphrexi> holycow, sudo apt-get lmms
[09:31] <roryy> !tell dai about mp3
[09:31] <holycow> thx
[09:31] <dai> thank you
[09:31] <ayabara> intelikey: you are scaring me ;-)
[09:32] <Quan-Time> mp3 / audio is working.. but just not in games
[09:32] <sol_> sup room
[09:32] <roryy> marsh: do that for each of the key ids i gave you earlier, and then do that export command from the wiki with each id
[09:32] <Quan-Time> anyone know how i can diagnose why / fix it ?
[09:32] <sol_> ubuntu noob needs help
[09:32] <intelikey> ayabara you need to scandisk defrag and then resize
[09:32] <marsh> roryy - i'm getting errors on that... :(
[09:32] <dai> what's gam??
[09:32] <mo0se> wee.
[09:32] <mo0se> o.o
[09:32] <sol_> cant get mp3 working in ubuntu
[09:33] <zyphrexi> dai, gam?
[09:33] <marsh> says 'no valid user id's - this may be caused by a missing self signature...
[09:33] <dai> same problem
[09:33] <sol_> use synaptic or root terminal
[09:33] <Madpilot> !mp3
[09:33] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:33] <marsh> roryy, says 'no valid user id's - this may be caused by a missing self signature...
[09:33] <roryy> marsh: for which key ?
[09:33] <Madpilot> sol_, see ubotu's post above for mp3 ^^^
[09:33] <Quan-Time> sol_, install XMMS
[09:33] <Quan-Time> worked fine for me
[09:33] <Quan-Time> use that as a player
[09:33] <ayabara> intelikey: ok. that is something partition magic does for me, isn't it? haven't lost data with it (yet). What I need to do is the operation I said, and then I want to format half of the drive as ext3 so that my life in linux can begin
[09:34] <intelikey> well that's my bell.   later folks.  have a linux time out there....
[09:34] <dj-fu> Anyone know how I can remove everything that a particular package depends on (kubuntu-desktop, for example)
[09:34] <marsh> roryy, all of them...
[09:34] <ayabara> maybe I should just use pt a last time for resizing the ntfs
[09:34] <zyphrexi> there's a fun little program called automatix
[09:34] <intelikey> ayabara yeah make free space and then run the ub installer
[09:34] <zyphrexi> try reading about it
[09:34] <Madpilot> !automatix
[09:34] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[09:34] <roryy> marsh: at which stage? running the 'gpg --keyserver' command or the apt-keys command ?
[09:34] <zyphrexi> lol
[09:35] <holycow> how can we get rid of automatix
[09:35] <ayabara> intelikey: thx. now follow your bell :-)
[09:35] <marsh> roryy, gpg --keyserver....
[09:35] <holycow> that thing has to be blasted right off the net imho
[09:35] <zyphrexi> sudo apt-get remove automatix
[09:35] <jmibanez> !easyubuntu
[09:35] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[09:35] <roryy> marsh: hmm, odd. just a second...
[09:35] <zyphrexi> i only use it for a few different things
[09:35] <Madpilot> zyphrexi, nope, it's not in repos - and never will be, because it's not quite legal...
[09:36] <zyphrexi> eh... crap
[09:36] <zyphrexi> tired
[09:36] <zyphrexi> use synaptic :P
[09:36] <ayabara> hey. easyubuntu sounds like my thing :-)
[09:36] <mo0se> !kubuntu
[09:36] <ubotu> somebody said kubuntu was Ubuntu+KDE (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[09:36] <marsh> roryy, i only seemed to find one useful info using google... it was asking if trying a dpkg and it failing on dependencies fouled apt. I tried dpkg -i opera and it failed on deps... you think this could be why?
[09:36] <Quan-Time> so yer, someone wanna help me get my audio working in games ? i have MP3s / xvids working fine..
[09:37] <roryy> marsh: i don't think so.
[09:37] <Quan-Time> just nothing in games. i use onboard NF4 (AC97 or some crap)
[09:37] <roryy> marsh: can you put the output of 'sudo apt-keys list' on the pastebin ?
[09:37] <marsh> roryy, but the user was noob and re-instllled
[09:37] <ayabara> are you people running breezy or dapper?
[09:37] <goonie> Here is a problem I need to solve... My netcards are always inactive on boot. I have to manually acitvate them which is tiresome and shouldn't be necessary. I have also noticed an error when shutting down the machine "Deconfiguring network interfaces ... Fail" Any ideas?
[09:37] <roryy> marsh: sorry, 'sudo apt-key list'
[09:37] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, for ET, try in a terminal: "killall esd" then start the game, when it's done type "esd" to get regular sound back
[09:37] <roryy> marsh: the pastebin is here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:38] <jenda> ayabara: most run breezy
[09:38] <dli> goonie, easier way is to build your kernel :)
[09:38] <jenda> ayabara: it is not advised to use the development version as main desktop
[09:38] <ayabara> jenda: ok. then I guess a newbie should too
[09:39] <Quan-Time> nope didnt work Madpilot
[09:39] <jenda> Probably. I'm very happy with breezy - and I know I'll be VERY happy if I strain my patience and wait till the final release of Dapper... ah... I can't wait 
[09:39] <Quan-Time> q3 doesnt work eitehr
[09:39] <goonie> dli~ hmm.... not sure I see your point. How will that help me with this problem?
[09:39] <ayabara> has anyone here used the ext2 driver for windows (www.fs-driver.org)? I need this during my transition fase to linux, and I'm not very eager to lose data
[09:39] <marsh> roryy, posted
[09:39] <marsh> !
[09:39] <ubotu> marsh: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:39] <dai> why when i type the command to install mp3 support it gets a message of Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:40] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, hmm - sound in ET is odd sometimes... whether it starts or not is a bit of a gamble :P
[09:40] <mo0se> !ntfs
[09:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:40] <roryy> marsh: it's traditional to paste the url here ;)
[09:40] <Quan-Time> im not a gambling man tho Madpilot. thats the problem
[09:40] <dli> goonie, you can build the nic driver in kernel, so, it's always enabled
[09:40] <MenZa> ayabara: I've had FS-Driver recommended quite a few times
[09:41] <roryy> marsh: you have the required keys
[09:41] <holycow> both lmms and hydrogend are very cool
[09:41] <holycow> neato
[09:41] <ayabara> MenZa: it should handle both read and write ok?
[09:41] <roryy> marsh: why did you think you had lost them ?
[09:41] <jenda> ayabara: it's easier to use FAT32 on a small part of your disk as a transition media between your windows and your linux.
[09:41] <goonie> dli~ I see.
[09:41] <MenZa> ayabara: Yes, so I hear
[09:41] <Quan-Time> can anyone suggest a good (GUI) torrent client ?
[09:41] <marsh> roryy, sorry... bit ignorant to these things yet... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13116
[09:42] <dli> goonie, also, you can get a newer kernel, in which the driver problem is already fixed
[09:42] <roryy> marsh: yeah, i found it ;).  See my previous comments.
[09:42] <holycow> what jenda said, usually you don't need a lot either
[09:42] <MenZa> Someone should put up a rule about not apologising; I mean, we've all had problems. Problems we consider stupid when we look back at them ;D
[09:42] <marsh> roryy, apt-get update told me... GPG error... ...error executing gpgv
[09:42] <roryy> marsh: well, the problem is evidently not lost keys
[09:43] <roryy> marsh: can you paste the entire error up on the pastebin ?
[09:43] <ayabara> jenda: I know. problem is that I have a lot of data on an external hd that I need acess to from both worlds until I'm ready to ditch windows
[09:43] <jenda> MenZa: hmm... recently I tried skyping with my microphone unplugged... I don't think I'll ever get angry at a noob again...
[09:43] <dli> marsh, ubuntu got to find an way for auto key
[09:43] <kIOski> anyome here runs flashfxp using wine ???
[09:43] <MenZa> jenda: hahahaha
[09:43] <jenda> ayabara: FAT32 is you ranswer
[09:43] <roryy> marsh: also, can you put the output of 'sudo apt-get check' up there too ?
[09:43] <MenZa> Where's the grub config located? I keep forgetting
[09:43] <holycow> jenda, rofl
[09:43] <roryy> MenZa: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:44] <MenZa> ta
[09:44] <dli> ayabara, there's an ext2fsd project on sourceforge, which is stable to use in windows
[09:44] <ayabara> jenda: but I can't convert ntfs to fat32 without losing my data? I've heard that "tragic" has an error percentage of about 20 in this operation...
[09:44] <dli> MenZa, debian has a command, 'update-grub"
[09:45] <holycow> ayabara, i wouldn't either
[09:45] <MenZa> dli: oh?
[09:45] <MenZa> Well I fixed it now
[09:45] <dli> ayabara, I don't trust live conversion
[09:45] <jenda> no, ayabara, I wouldn't ecommend that. But you still need to convert that drive to a usable FS, and NTFS is not the one.
[09:45] <exn> does anyone has intel pro wireless 2100  working  ?
[09:45] <MenZa> Having 8 entries is pretty annoying ;\
[09:45] <sethk> ayabara, it's a very very dangerous thing to do.  you heard correctly
[09:45] <MenZa> Any cool stuff with today's dist-upgrade?
[09:45] <MenZa> err
[09:45] <MenZa> That's for dapper
[09:45] <jenda> ayabara: so I would recommend moving all the data somewhere, formatting, and moving back
[09:45] <MenZa> ;p
[09:45] <tritium> exn: it is known to work, yes
[09:45] <ayabara> dli: ok. thx
[09:46] <dli> exn,  you need to package for firmware, and then, just modprobe ipw2100
[09:46] <Quan-Time> anyone ? good torrent client for dapper ? (supporting mulitple torrents in the one GUI)
[09:46] <holycow> MenZa, not relaly, regular updates
[09:46] <dli> Quan-Time, a bloated one, azureus
[09:46] <meshe> Quan-Time: azureus should work fine
[09:46] <fid> does ubuntu breezy support flash player 8?
[09:46] <MenZa> holycow: oh, that's alright.
[09:46] <MenZa> :)
[09:46] <Quan-Time> dli, i said GOOD.. i dont like az...
[09:46] <jenda> Quan-Time: Azureus is great, but it uses Java, unfoncho.
[09:46] <Quan-Time> i liked bitcomet on win32
[09:46] <dli> meshe, solved your nic problem?
[09:47] <jenda> Quan-Time: ah...
[09:47] <Quan-Time> does utorrent have a nix port ?
[09:47] <ayabara> jenda: It's starting to look like the puzzle where you have to row a mouse, a cat and a dog across a river but only have room in the boat for one at a time
[09:47] <Quan-Time> as utorrent is az.. without the java dependancy
[09:47] <fid> bitcomet is the best
[09:47] <holycow> nuffin wrong with java ... let many flowers bloom :0
[09:47] <jenda> Quan-Time: I heard about Rufus - a FOSS mulitclient, but never tried.
[09:47] <holycow> :)
[09:47] <dli> Quan-Time, azureus is good, if you have dual-core + 4GB ram
[09:47] <fid> anyone flash8 ?
[09:47] <Quan-Time> dli, 2gb ram.. not 4 sorry.
[09:47] <jenda> ayabara: exactly. I had that time of problem zilions of times.
[09:47] <roryy> marsh: i see you pasted something up there, but there are no errors -- is everything working now ?
[09:47] <holycow> lol, dudes don't be just elitists :) man
[09:47] <holycow> hehe
[09:47] <Madpilot> fid, no Flash 8 for Linux
[09:47] <meshe> dli: compiling now
[09:47] <fid> lame
[09:48] <fid> hah
[09:48] <meshe> make-dpkg
[09:48] <meshe> er, make-kpkg
[09:48] <dli> meshe, good, you didn't do "make"
[09:48] <poningru> I can vouch for rufus
[09:48] <marsh> roryy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13118
[09:48] <holycow> fid, its what happens when one depends on commercial companies for support ...
[09:48] <poningru> the stability is ok
[09:48] <meshe> nah, i was smart enough to read the wiki first
[09:48] <holycow> fid, its an excellent example of where open source excells
[09:48] <poningru> but its on par with utorrent when it comes to resource usage
[09:48] <marsh> roryy, the 2> errror output is the one i just pasted here...
[09:49] <roryy> marsh: ok, fair enough
[09:49] <marsh> it comes up after the no errors output
[09:49] <roryy> marsh: let me do what i should have done earlier, and run that myself
[09:49] <dli> meshe, sorry for asking, I really didn't expect many "smart" users in ubuntu
[09:49] <meshe> the only way to get debs on this machine tho is to burn them to a cd first on my laptop and move it over
[09:49] <marsh> roryy, sorry - am a bit slow... it's the frustration/confusion bubbling up !
[09:50] <dli> meshe, you have no usb-memory or usb-hdd?
[09:50] <meshe> dli: not sure how to take that ;)
[09:50] <roryy> marsh: no problem
[09:50] <ayabara> jenda: I got wat I wanted from you ;-)
[09:50] <ayabara> jenda: thanks
[09:50] <fid> meh
[09:50] <fid> time for bed
[09:50] <dli> meshe, usb-flash memory is cheap nowadays
[09:50] <holycow> and indespensable
[09:50] <luisito> /join #prueba
[09:51] <marsh> roryy, it's just me! :(
[09:51] <holycow> you can now get 2 gig sticks for affordable $
[09:51] <meshe> dli: yeah, i did have a thumb drive, but it died on me
[09:51] <luisito> ...
[09:51] <meshe> dli: i've just been using a multisession cd and k3b
[09:51] <dli> holycow, ubuntu should provide liveusb images too
[09:52] <ayabara> If I want to live in a dual boot world, my whole external hd should be formatted as FAT32?
[09:52] <meshe> that would be kewl
[09:52] <holycow> dli, *nod* i wouldn't be surprised to see that show up eventually
[09:52] <dli> meshe, btw, what's the current kernel? "uname -a"
[09:52] <holycow> altho ... i'm not sure how good of an idea that is ...
[09:52] <holycow> theoretically one can burn flash sticks in seconds if something goes wrong
[09:52] <dli> holycow, what format would be convenient for both linux/windows users
[09:52] <roryy> marsh: hmm, no, it's working here
[09:53] <Quan-Time> so yer.. sound in games.. any suggestions ?
[09:53] <holycow> fat32 is the only one that really is that transient
[09:53] <meshe> dli: 2.6.12-10-686-smp
[09:53] <Quan-Time> do i need the nforce drivers ?
[09:53] <dli> meshe, quite old
[09:53] <dli> meshe, however, should be more than enough to support your nics
[09:53] <meshe> my nics are supported
[09:54] <hajuu_> what do I need to do to setup an ident for irc?
[09:54] <meshe> there's just something really screwy with them and the breezy install
[09:54] <dli> meshe, you are compiling an ubuntu kernel or vanilla?
[09:54] <roryy> marsh: you did try clearing out /var/lib/apt/lists/ ?
[09:54] <ayabara> I thought about having half the hd as ext3 and use one of the ext-fs drivers for windows. when all I have on the drive is video/audio/images/docs, are there really any huuge disadvantages to using FAT32?
[09:54] <marsh> roryy, yes... same problem...
[09:55] <meshe> dli: ubuntu, i dld'd the src kernel deb and worked from there
[09:55] <holycow> ayabara, from last look, all of those are read only
[09:55] <marsh> roryy, had to put the 'partial' dir bak though! just as well i moved it..!
[09:55] <roryy> marsh: ah. but did you clear it out ?
[09:55] <ayabara> holycow: www.fs-driver.org claims write support, doesn't it?
[09:55] <marsh> roryy, the partial dir?
[09:56] <roryy> marsh: yip. i mean, its contents
[09:56] <exn> where do i put the ipw2100 firmware ?
[09:56] <marsh> ok... sorry - my ignorance again... back in a min.
[09:56] <meshe> dli: if this works, i'm going to have to do this everytime i want to upgrade the kernel aren't i?
[09:56] <dli> meshe, oh, one point I wanted to make, since ubuntu is giving trouble, it worths to try vanilla
[09:56] <tritium> exn: you don't need to worry about that.  it "just works"
[09:57] <dli> meshe, you can try where the ubuntu pre-built kernel works, if it doesn't you can always retreat
[09:57] <chewy> i need to configure samba how would a guy do tha
[09:57] <exn> tritium, i can't make it work
[09:57] <Stork> hi, i'm having some problems with ATI drivers. When I start GDM it just says '(EE) No devices detected' :|
[09:57] <ayabara> holycow: anyway. if there isn't any huge drawbacks to having a 300GiG disk in FAT32 format, that is the way to go I think
[09:57] <Stork> chewy: #samba
[09:57] <holycow> ayabara, well i guess i'm horribly wrong :) that looks cool, i've always ended up using fat32, but ext3 would be much nicer
[09:58] <meshe> dli: ubuntu keeps the older kernel versions in the grub menu doesn't it?
[09:58] <chewy> how do i get swat to work?
[09:58] <ayabara> holycow: :-) , is there a 20 word explanation for why ext3 would be cooler for a "storage disk"?
[09:58] <dj-fu> Stork, which ATI drivers, fglrx?
[09:58] <holycow> ayabara, windows wont like such a large fat32 disk ... ext3 would be much better as it has journaling
[09:58] <Stork> yes dj-fu
[09:59] <dj-fu> Stork, are they loaded in your kernel
[09:59] <holycow> ayabara, thx for the heads up on that win ext project, thats cool
[09:59] <dli> meshe, it keeps all installed kernels, grub is simply "update-grub"
[09:59] <roryy> marsh: ok, i have a (long!) command so we can see what the gpg error actually is
[09:59] <Stork> dj-fu: they're in /etc/modules
[09:59] <dj-fu> Stork, lsmod|grep fglrx
[09:59] <Stork> dj-fu: my card is a Radeon Mobility 7500 - is that supported?
[09:59] <chewy> How do i get swat to load in the web browser
[09:59] <dj-fu> not a clue sorry 
[10:00] <ayabara> holycow: np. some bloke in another forum claimed to have used it error-free for a long time
[10:00] <dj-fu> best to check the glrx changelog
[10:00] <Stork> dj-fu: the command you said didn't show any results
[10:00] <meshe> well, make-kpkg just failed
[10:00] <dj-fu> then you'll need to modprobe fglrx
[10:00] <dj-fu> and/or modprobe -r the existing modules for your card
[10:00] <meshe> i think i'm going to have to tackle this tommorow
[10:00] <dj-fu> (ati, dri, drm, whatever.)
[10:00] <roryy> marsh: the command is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13119
[10:01] <immolo> Stork, I've got a feelig your card is supported by an open source drive
[10:01] <Stork> immolo: hmm? which one(s)
[10:01] <chewy> How do i configure swat
[10:01] <immolo> google for "ati 7500 llinux
[10:01] <immolo> "
[10:01] <leggy> hello...i have a problem with the hotplug subsystem: after installing the hda sound drivers, ubuntu don't boot correctly! the boot process stops at hotplug subsystem. i solved the problem by editing the /etc/hotplug/blacklist, where i inserted hda-snd-intel and hda_snd_codec! but i have no sound because of this! :\ does anyone know this problem?
[10:01] <dli> meshe, how it failed :(
[10:01] <roryy> marsh: the other thing is to check your /etc/apt/sources.list -- can you put that on the pastebin too ?
[10:03] <meshe> dli: drivers/i2c/i2c-core.c is where it failed
[10:03] <meshe> i'm going to dl the latest vanilla and start the compile and go to bed
[10:04] <dli> meshe, right, vanilla is more stable
[10:04] <hajuu_> How the hell do I get an ident server working with irc??
[10:04] <hajuu_> I cant figure it out
[10:04] <dli> meshe, can you disable i2c for the moment
[10:04] <marsh> roryy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13120
[10:04] <meshe> are there any patches i'm going need from the ubuntu version?
[10:04] <hajuu_> !ident
[10:04] <ubotu> hajuu_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:04] <dli> hajuu_, what do you mean?
[10:04] <Seveas> hajuu_, sudo apt-get install pidentd. Done.
[10:05] <marsh> i emptied partial - same problem though...
[10:05] <immolo> hajuu_, oident also allows computers in your network to ident
[10:05] <dli> meshe, without patch, vanilla kernel just works
[10:05] <chewy> how do i work swat for samba ?
[10:05] <meshe> dli: kewl
[10:05] <roryy> marsh: hmm, looks ok
[10:05] <Seveas> !swat
[10:05] <ubotu> swat is probably Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html
[10:06] <hajuu_> ok pident installed.. but how do I use it?
[10:06] <hajuu_> and set my details?
[10:06] <roryy> marsh: can you run the gpg command i put on the pastebin? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13119
[10:06] <chewy> ok thanks
[10:06] <roryy> marsh: maybe we can see what gpg's problem is
[10:06] <Seveas> hajuu_, read through /usr/share/doc/pidentd/
[10:06] <immolo> hajuu_, man pidentd
[10:06] <chewy> file not found the swat addy is wrong
[10:07] <Quan-Time> supposidly   artsdsp -m quake3.x86 fixes the q3 sound issues.. but i dont have it.. worth installing to try ?
[10:07] <hajuu_> root@dcportal:/home/hajuu # man pidentd
[10:07] <hajuu_> No manual entry for pidentd
[10:07] <lianghu> did anyone use ELDK for arm compiling on Ubuntu???
[10:09] <marsh> roryy, does that take a while? or has it hung (the first line - i'm assuming the others are output)
[10:09] <Madpilot> later all
[10:09] <mo0se> !vlc
[10:09] <ubotu> hmm... vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[10:09] <roryy> marsh: no, should be instantaneous
[10:10] <roryy> marsh: on, no, it's all one command
[10:10] <roryy> marsh: the '# run this ...' is a comment
[10:10] <marsh> roryy, sorry - i'm typing it!
[10:10] <mo0se> ubuntu is debian, right?
[10:10] <chewy> nope
[10:10] <roryy> marsh: hmm. cut-and-paste, if possible...
[10:10] <marsh> <-- feeling a bit daft, roryy
[10:10] <mo0se> what is it?
[10:10] <goodwill> errr
[10:11] <goodwill> any advice why ubuntu installer is not detected my sata drive?
[10:11] <goodwill> is that support not comiled into the installer kernel?
[10:11] <roryy> !debian
[10:11] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[10:12] <dj-fu> goodwill, usually works, what chipset sata controller?
[10:13] <kIOski> which command for see which kernel i have ??
[10:13] <goodwill> kIOski: uname -a
[10:13] <roryy> kIOski: uname -r
[10:13] <kIOski> thx
[10:13] <Quan-Time> best way to extract a tar file.. tar -vzf [filename]  ?!
[10:13] <Quan-Time> was that it ?
[10:13] <roryy> Quan-Time: you need x for extract
[10:13] <roryy> Quan-Time: the z is for tar.gz files
[10:13] <Quan-Time> UH HUH !!!
[10:13] <Quan-Time> cheers
[10:13] <luisito> where can I find information to make the progress bar animated?
[10:14] <Seveas> luisito, drink enough alcohol =)
[10:14] <Seveas> luisito, or install a custom theme, the progress bars in the Ubuntu theme can't be animated
[10:14] <goodwill> dj-fu: SiS I think
[10:14] <luisito> Seveas: jejeje :D
[10:15] <roryy> Seveas: marsh is seeing this on 'apt-get update' -- any ideas ? he's cleard out /var/lib/apt/lists and /var/lib/apt/lists/partial, but it's still happening.
[10:15] <luisito> Seveas: but I think in hoary where animated sometime, or I am wrong?
[10:15] <Seveas> roryy, 'this' being?
[10:15] <Seveas> luisito, yes they were. They disabled it
[10:16] <Quan-Time> its a .tar.gz2
[10:16] <Quan-Time> tar.bz2 even
[10:16] <roryy> Seveas: *cough* oops: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13118
[10:16] <luisito> Seveas: and I can't make it that way again?
[10:16] <Seveas> luisito, recompile
[10:16] <marsh> roryy, Seveas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13121 is from the gpg command
[10:16] <roryy> Quan-Time: tar xjvf
[10:16] <Seveas> with --enable-animation oslt
[10:17] <luisito> Seveas: forget it.  :D
[10:17] <hajuu_> ok still cant get my ident working with irc... I need my address to be lolatyou2@hostmask for the bots in a chan on another network will recognize me...
[10:17] <roryy> marsh: hmm
[10:17] <marsh> this feels like it's going somewhere... ;)))
[10:17] <marsh> Oh.... :(
[10:17] <Seveas> marsh, may simple be a server error
[10:17] <roryy> marsh: well, the file is missing
[10:17] <mo0se> !m4a
[10:17] <ubotu> mo0se: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:17] <roryy> marsh: what does 'ls security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_Release.gpg' say ?
[10:18] <mo0se> is there no way to play .m4a's in ubuntu?
[10:18] <Seveas> marsh, ls -alr /var/lib/apt/lists, output on pastebin
[10:18] <Seveas> luisito, disable that away messaging crap!
[10:18] <dj-fu> goodwill,
[10:18] <dj-fu> modprobe sata_sis
[10:19] <marsh> roryy, no such file
[10:19] <roryy> Seveas: gb.archive.ubuntu.com, which he's using, is the same as archive.ubuntu.com -- i think a server error is unlikely there.
[10:19] <hajuu_> ok still cant get my ident working with irc... I need my address to be lolatyou2@hostmask for the bots in a chan on another network will recognize me...
[10:19] <roryy> marsh: ok. odd. can you do what seveas requested?
[10:19] <lolownik> Hello, can You give me any pointers for Ubuntu install over nfs (machine with no cd)
[10:19] <goodwill> dj-fu: done, what do sata devices look like under /dev ? sd* ? and such?
[10:19] <dj-fu> yes
[10:19] <dj-fu> sd*
[10:20] <Seveas> lolownik, wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[10:20] <goodwill> dj-fu: modprobed it see none of those
[10:20] <lolownik> thx
[10:20] <roryy> marsh (and Seveas): I remember once actually copying a .gpg file from /var/lib/lists/partial/  to /var/lib/lists/  -- everything was ok, but for some reason the file got stuck in partial/
[10:20] <goodwill> dj-fu: mayeb if I specify it at boot
[10:20] <dj-fu> goodwill, you shouldn't need to. lsmod|grep scsi?
[10:21] <goodwill> scsi_mod 2 libata, usb_storage
[10:21] <marsh> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13123
[10:21] <dj-fu> hurm
[10:21] <dj-fu> I'm sorry, I don't know.
[10:22] <goodwill> I think I foudn a debian bug on this
[10:22] <Seveas> marsh, odd, all gpg files are missing
[10:22] <roryy> indeed
[10:23] <marsh> Seveas, could this bedue to a dpkg -i fialing on deps?
[10:23] <Seveas> no
[10:23] <roryy> Seveas: did you mean -R ?
[10:23] <kimrhh> hi, a couple of questions... a USB keyboard not working in grub? and when I try to attach a usb-disk, nothing happens
[10:24] <roryy> marsh: could you try that again, but 'ls -laR' this time ?
[10:24] <Fujitsu> Seveas ran away!
[10:24] <roryy> marsh: that is, 'ls -laR /var/lib/apt/lists'
[10:25] <marsh> roryy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13125
[10:25] <roryy> marsh: the Release.gpg file *is* on the server (you can see it here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/) so, I don't think it's a server problem
[10:26] <cyphase> is there a panel applet who's purpose it is to keep other applets next to each other in the panel
[10:26] <cyphase> so, you put applets into this applet, then you move the container applet arround, and everything inside it stays together
[10:26] <roryy> marsh: ah-ha! do you see the .gpg files in partial/ there ?
[10:26] <marsh> roryy, neither do i, 's why i cameto you guys... google only offers server probs solutions
[10:26] <Method7> guys quick question, am using a centrino laptop with an integrated graphics card, will xgl work
[10:27] <dj-fu> what graphics
[10:27] <goodwill> dj-fu: apparantly asus has some drivers for that, I might figuresomething out
[10:27] <goodwill> dj-fu: thanks
[10:27] <roryy> marsh: ok, i'm going to update that gpg command from earlier
[10:27] <dj-fu> goodwill, good luck ;] 
[10:27] <mo0se> what's the best music player for ubuntu?
[10:27] <MenZa> I prefer Listen personally
[10:27] <takedown> amarok
[10:27] <holycow> mo0se, open up synaptic and look in the multimedia category
[10:27] <Flannel> m0zone: there is no "best", its personal preference
[10:27] <takedown> ah, ubuntu :)
[10:28] <blAckEn3d> does anyone know what pakage contains the file system structure (/bin, /lib, etc)?
[10:28] <roryy> marsh: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13127
[10:28] <Flannel> blAckEn3d: huh?
[10:28] <holycow> mo0se, there are tons of them
[10:28] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13126
[10:28] <roryy> marsh: almost the same as before, i've just added 'partial/' to the beginning of the first filename
[10:28] <doms> i want to delete rows
[10:28] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13126
[10:28] <marsh> roryy, yes, i see them.... hang on - i'll be right back
[10:28] <blAckEn3d> Flannel, when you install your system, isn't there a package that just contains the file system structure?
[10:29] <Flannel> no.  That's part of the installer.
[10:29] <blAckEn3d> Flannel, okay, thanks :)
[10:29] <mo0se> holycow, yeah i see...
[10:29] <Yon> hey all
[10:29] <blAckEn3d> bye
[10:29] <mo0se> but i'm just wondering what are some of the good ones...
[10:29] <mo0se> well... better ones...
[10:29] <Yon> im trying to copy from one mounted hdd to a ext mounted hdd, and i get an error saying oculd not creat folder
[10:30] <Yon> **counld not create**
[10:30] <kimrhh> could anyone help me getting usb-mass-storage to work in ubuntu?
[10:31] <Get_A_Fix> hello
[10:31] <goodwill> dj-fu: yeah there is a patch from SiS available from this chipset that has not made it into the current kernel tree yet
[10:31] <dj-fu> ah
[10:31] <dj-fu> you may have to do a custom kernel build to get it running then
[10:31] <goodwill> dj-fu: so I'll apply it and recompile a kernel, but one cd is now a coaster here
[10:31] <goodwill> dj-fu: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/03/msg01020.html
[10:32] <Get_A_Fix> could anyone help with installing Ekiga please?
[10:33] <dj-fu> afk, good luck
[10:34] <marsh> roryy, http://ubuntu-nl.org/13128 - sorry - i've lost my mouse... gonna shut down... be back in 2 mins...
[10:35] <Yon> im trying to copy from one mounted hdd to a ext mounted hdd, and i get an error saying 'could not create folder', both HDD's r NTFS
[10:36] <Fujitsu> Ubuntu doesn't do NTFS writing.
[10:36] <Fujitsu> Neither do other Linuces.
[10:37] <Yon> :/ so there is nothing i can do about that?
[10:38] <eirich> anyone still awake?
[10:38] <goodwill> dj-fu: hmmm.. the patch made is way in 2.6.14-rc2
[10:38] <Get_A_Fix> Yon: not really, NTFS drives are readable only
[10:38] <goodwill> that should be helpful
[10:38] <Flannel> Yon: not yet.
[10:38] <goodwill> eirich: no...noone is awake
[10:38] <goodwill> :-P
[10:39] <eirich> wouldn't you know as soon as i hit enter, i started seeing messages from others
[10:40] <eirich> i was just wondering if anyone here has had any issues keeping ubuntu connected to internet wirelessly
[10:40] <dli> eirich, ask your question :(
[10:41] <lsuactiafner> eirich : my access point goes kinda off when nothing is on it, so i keep irc or something open
[10:41] <amorphous_> roryy, back... sorry about that, it's on my list...
[10:41] <lsuactiafner> or gmail which refreshes all the time
[10:41] <eirich> hmm.
[10:41] <eirich> i may have to try that
[10:41] <amorphous_> roryy, i miss anything?
[10:41] <roryy> amorphous_: nope.  did you run that command in the /var/lib/apt/lists directory ?
[10:42] <eirich> even when i'm ssh'd into my ubuntu box from my laptop downstairs i still get disconnected
[10:42] <roryy> amorphous_: the shouldn't have been a file not found error
[10:42] <amorphous_> yes - same error.... was there no pastebin link before I shutdown? hang on, i'll get it
[10:42] <thomas__> Could anyone help me connect to the net? I'm a newbie with Ubuntu
[10:42] <eirich> i haven't been able to time it to see if it's a regular occurance.
[10:43] <dli> thomas__, don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:43] <eirich> right now it seems to be random but happens often
[10:43] <roryy> amorphous_: i got the link
[10:43] <Get_A_Fix> could anyone help with installing Ekiga please, we've downloaded the deb files but can't seem to find install instructions anywhere ?
[10:43] <amorphous_> oh... that's not good, is it :(
[10:43] <roryy> amorphous_: but that file definitely exists -- i can see it in the ls -laR output
[10:43] <dli> Get_A_Fix, for .deb files, try, "dpkg -i foo.deb"
[10:43] <eirich> it's running on a desktop with a wireless card installed.
[10:44] <eirich> i used linuxant to make use of the card's drivers
[10:44] <thomas__> Allright. Ubuntu seems to find both my wlan card, and my ethernet card just fine. However, it won't recieve DHCP or get contact with my router when I set the ip manually
[10:44] <roryy> amorphous_: i think you typed the name wrong
[10:44] <soulfreshner> is there some way to know what the name is of a program in the menu (the name of the executable)
[10:44] <amorphous_> ok... hang on...
[10:44] <roryy> amorphous_: it's security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_Release , not security.ubuntu.com_dists_breezy-security_Release\
[10:44] <rafflesdude> hey im new to unbuntu, i cant change my screen resolution from 640
[10:44] <roryy> amorphous_: i strongly recommend cut-and-pasting stuff from the pastebin -- can you do that ?
[10:44] <rafflesdude> *480
[10:45] <dli> thomas__, you want dhcp or static?
[10:45] <soulfreshner> it would be even better if there were some way to know from the running program by using ps or something
[10:45] <roryy> amorphous_: to paste in the terminal, right-click -> Paste
[10:45] <polpak> !tell rafflesdude about resolution
[10:45] <eirich> if i go to the network preferences i can restart the wlan0 and it begins to work again for maybe 5 minutes then down again.
[10:45] <fable> hello
[10:45] <mikomiko> Is there any software similar to Gmail notifier in windows
[10:45] <fable> some italian?
[10:45] <thomas__> dli: I want either, just as long as it works
[10:45] <roryy> !it
[10:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:46] <fable> thanks
[10:46] <dli> thomas__, sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[10:46] <Iskandar> i need some help
[10:46] <fable> i've a problem with my ATI radeon 9200
[10:46] <fable> i need some help
[10:46] <Iskandar> i would like to install ubuntu on a laptop asus
[10:46] <dli> thomas__, or you can try the GUI tool in the System menu
[10:47] <dli> Iskandar, asus supports linux quite well
[10:48] <fable> when i lunch fgl_glxgears i've low FPS
[10:48] <fable> help
[10:48] <Iskandar> i would like to install ubuntu on a laptot asus
[10:48] <thomas__> dli: If you mean the network tool, I've tried everything in order to set it up, and I don't see any reason why it shouldn't
[10:48] <Iskandar> some suggestion about that
[10:48] <Iskandar> ?
[10:49] <dli> thomas__, okay, sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[10:49] <pangbh> hello all
[10:49] <fable> there is 677 people, where are all???
[10:49] <thomas__> dli: done
[10:49] <pangbh> my ubuntu is breezy
[10:49] <pangbh> how to use virtual desktop
[10:49] <Get_A_Fix> dli: thanks, run with sudo right ? would you know in what order to process the files ?
[10:49] <Iskandar> cause someone told me that not all the peripheric are recognized
[10:50] <amorphous_> roryy, didn't know about the pasting thing - thanks for that. I been 2> to a file and gediting it to get it to the clipboard! --- here's the paste... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13129
[10:50] <paris> ?
[10:50] <Iskandar> someone installed ubuntu on his laptop?
[10:50] <jerusalem> running breezy. which one of these do i want? Linux RPM (self-extracting file)
[10:50] <jerusalem> (filesize: 15.47 MB), Linux (self-extracting file), Linux AMD64** Linux AMD64 RPM** ?
[10:50] <roryy> amorphous_: ok, first 'cd /var/lib/apt/lists' and try again
[10:51] <dli> thomas__,  put the device you want auto after lo to make it "auto lo eth0"
[10:51] <dli> thomas__, or whatever, if it's not eth0
[10:51] <doms> $result=mysql_query("select * from profile where name=$_view['name'] ");
[10:51] <jerusalem> anyone?
[10:52] <jerusalem> simple question really
[10:52] <doms> $result=mysql_query("select * from profile where name=$_view['name'] ");
[10:52] <roryy> doms: try #mysql
[10:52] <roryy> doms: and *please* stop repeating yourself
[10:52] <Iskandar> someone installed ubuntu on his laptop?
[10:52] <Fry3001> jerusalem, talking about vmware?
[10:52] <Iskandar> ok noone installed ubuntu on his laptop!
[10:52] <soulfreshner> doms - it's a problem in your mysql query - you are missing single quotes
[10:52] <roryy> Iskandar: please be patient.  Have you search for 'laptop' on wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[10:52] <Iskandar> bye bye
[10:53] <Iskandar> yes of course
[10:53] <jerusalem> java
[10:53] <Iskandar> i love java
[10:53] <Fry3001> ah
[10:53] <roryy> !java
[10:53] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:53] <Fry3001> i took the .bin and made a .deb with java-package
[10:53] <ubuntu> elo
[10:53] <jerusalem> thanks for the link
[10:53] <ubuntu> huje
[10:53] <dli> thomas__, and, iface eth1 inet dhcp
[10:54] <ubuntu> how to lunch a  comunicator?
[10:54] <amorphous_> this could be good news! -- though a tad gutting if it's the reason why... I have a battery problem & keep losing the system time...  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13131
[10:54] <amorphous_> want me to reset the system time?
[10:55] <amorphous_> roryy, see above - sorry forgot yr name
[10:55] <roryy> amorphous_: yeah, looks like you'll need to
[10:55] <Iskandar> come back in a while
[10:55] <Iskandar> bye
[10:55] <roryy> amorphous_: bizarre error
[10:55] <amorphous_> back in a minute
[10:55] <roryy> amorphous_: the screensaver may kick in (!)
[10:55] <amorphous_> roryy, could og
[10:56] <thomas__> dli: done. I'll see if it works
[10:56] <amorphous_> roryy, could, of course, be my time machine experiment i have going on in the kitchen... maybe I have warped!
[10:56] <kimrhh> how do I upgrade my Ubuntu to the latest packages?
[10:56] <soundray> How can I interrupt a mysql query from the commandline, without Ctrl-C'ing the whole client process?
[10:56] <dli> thomas__, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:56] <roryy> heh
[10:56] <dli> thomas__, sudo ifconfig -a
[10:57] <Yon> amorphous, is it possible to compy from one NTFS hdd to another NTFS hdd?
[10:58] <Yon> oh , lol he left...
[10:58] <VK2NA> bye
[10:58] <soundray> Yon: only if you have write access to the second NTFS partition.
[10:58] <roryy> Yon: you can't write to ntfs from linux
[10:59] <Yon> soundray... how do i get write access...?
[11:00] <jerusalem> thanks for the help all. peace
[11:01] <soundray> Yon: like roryy said, you can't write to NTFS -- at least not safely. If you're prepared to take a risk, search for Captive NTFS
[11:01] <maz> has anyone else had trouble with loading pictures onto ebay??
[11:02] <maz> ?
[11:02] <Yon> ok... im just gona have to acept the fact ... thx
[11:02] <dli> soundray, any chance for the new winfs ?
[11:02] <curley_sue> HELP! I made a huge error - "sudo rm /mountpoint" how can I restore lost data (no reboot has been done yet)
[11:03] <Yon> why is NTFS  not used in linux and only windows?
[11:03] <dli> curley_sue, rm /mountpoint won't do any demage
[11:03] <dli> curley_sue, unless you did "rm -rf"
[11:03] <jareth_> Yon: lisence issues?
[11:03] <Yon> oh right.. ok
[11:03] <soundray> Yon: because it is closed software.
[11:03] <curley_sue> dli, did "sudo rm -R /..."
[11:04] <Yon> so there is nothing wrong with it
[11:04] <Yon> k, thanks for the help guys
[11:04] <thomas__> dli: When I do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it says fail
[11:04] <maz> can it actually be that I'm the ONLY person who can't load photos onto ebay??
[11:05] <dli> curley_sue, too late :(
[11:05] <dli> curley_sue, if the data is critical, turn off the computer right now
[11:06] <curley_sue> dli is there no way to restore (since I haven't restarted yet);  I <ctrl>-c in the middle
[11:06] <dli> thomas__, go over your /etc/network/interfaces , correct possible errors
[11:06] <dli> curley_sue, too late, turn off computer is the only way
[11:06] <curley_sue> dli why should I turn off?!
[11:06] <dli> curley_sue, then, you make disk image of the disk, and recover from it
[11:07] <maz> can it actually be that I'm the ONLY person who can't load photos onto ebay??
[11:07] <dli> curley_sue, your computer may do more demage to your data when it's running
[11:07] <Fujitsu> Is it another partition to your root, curley_sue?
[11:07] <roryy> maz: this is an ubuntu support channel; perhaps you should contact ebay tech support.
[11:07] <Fujitsu> If so, you need to unmount it immediately.
[11:08] <dli> Fujitsu, you can't unmount /
[11:08] <Fujitsu> It is /, is it?
[11:08] <maz> roryy sorry if that's irritating people, but i've never had this problem on Windows so I can only conclude that Ubuntu is at fault
[11:08] <amorphous_> now there's a thing.... perfect! roryy, yr a gent. thank you.
[11:08] <curley_sue> dli Fujitsu it's an archive partition (FAT32 format done by Win32). only archive files...
[11:08] <soundray> dli: winfs will have to be reverse engineered to access it from Linux. Probably a major task, and dangerous, from a legal point of view.
[11:08] <curley_sue> dli, Fujitsu, it's an archive partition (FAT32 format done by Win32). only archive files...
[11:08] <Fujitsu> OK.
[11:08] <Fujitsu> You need to unmount it immediately.
[11:08] <Fujitsu> sudo umount /mountpoint
[11:09] <Fujitsu> If it's FAT32, you're probably in luck.
[11:09] <dli> curley_sue, easy, fat32 can be easily recovered
[11:09] <Fujitsu> It's ext3 that's a problem.
[11:09] <danny-khi> I want to Grub Menu and Place Windows as the first and default choice in the boot loader menu. How I can do this? Please do not refer me to a webpage as I am currently unable to browser any webpage
[11:09] <Fujitsu> FAT32 recovery is trivial.
[11:09] <dli> soundray, I won't touch it anyway
[11:10] <Edgy_Eft> hi
[11:10] <Fujitsu> WinFS is just silly.
[11:10] <Fujitsu> Hi, Edgy_Eft.
[11:10] <Edgy_Eft> my sound device crashed
[11:10] <roryy> amorphous_: cool beans
[11:10] <amorphous_> hope I havent completely wasted your time and really sorry if i've been a pita. hopefully it'l all come in handy - it will if i see it again. I'm now off to post this on some forum's i seen earlier
[11:10] <Edgy_Eft> in ephipanty i got a beeb on an 404 site
[11:10] <amorphous_> roryy, above... and thanks again for your time...
[11:10] <Edgy_Eft> but last time i got a scratch noise and my sound is dead
[11:11] <amorphous_> yr a bloody genius!!! ;)
[11:11] <Edgy_Eft> i just booted
[11:11] <roryy> amorphous_: i think explaning how to use gpg to test what the error actually is may be most useful for others.
[11:11] <Edgy_Eft> and i can hear noise on my speakers while turnig sound to maximum
[11:11] <roryy> amorphous_: nah, had more experience breaking computers ;)
[11:11] <amorphous_> ok - i'll include it.
[11:11] <Edgy_Eft> but i get no boot melody
[11:11] <Edgy_Eft> any ideas?
[11:11] <kremsner> hy@all
[11:12] <amorphous_> roryy, well... I'm geting closer!!! lol
[11:12] <kremsner> a question... where is the directory of GAIM? Where are the Buddy Alerts....?
[11:12] <kremsner> Can I manage them with Gaim?
[11:12] <amorphous_> <-- giggling a lot like a kid as the tension eases...
[11:12] <kremsner> I just can add new alarms... but not delete old ones
[11:13] <curley_sue> Fujitsu, dli, umount done. what's nxt?
[11:14] <Fujitsu> I've never had to recover FAT32 under Linux... Do you have a Windows installation around?
[11:14] <curley_sue> Fujitsu, I have, it's a dual-boot laptop...
[11:14] <Fujitsu> OK...
[11:14] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[11:15] <OffHand> hi. what's the way to go to let fsck actually repair a hd?
[11:15] <Fujitsu> I've forgotten what tool I used to use....
[11:15] <dli> curley_sue, don't write to the disk, to fsck, don't do any, read first, http://www.scheler.com/fatrecovery/
[11:15] <curley_sue> Fujitsu, dli , didn't u say FAT32 recovery is trivial?
[11:15] <Fujitsu> If you have the right software, it's a matter of a couple of clicks.
[11:16] <Fujitsu> The software is pretty simple, it's just got to interpret large amounts of data.
[11:16] <kremsner> Anyone uses GAIM?
[11:16] <dli> curley_sue, trivial doesn't mean you can make mistake here :) don't do anything, first, read, understand, and set up your plan
[11:16] <Fujitsu> Yes, kremsner.
[11:16] <rafflesdude> hey how do i login as the administrator to remove the settings of a system file from it's read only status
[11:16] <kremsner> Fujitsu Can I manage my Buddy Alarms somehow?
[11:16] <dli> kremsner, I think "apt-cache search gaim" can find the package you need for gaim features
[11:16] <soulfreshner> if I run the application 'Network Servers' - how do I find out what the executable is called?
[11:16] <sol_> i need to know how to use a .run file in ubuntu
[11:16] <Fujitsu> Alarms?
[11:17] <kremsner> alerts
[11:17] <kremsner> sorry
[11:17] <kremsner> *g*
[11:17] <alxwind> hey gurus! what program lists all my hardware in console?
[11:17] <Fujitsu> To do what, kremsner?
[11:17] <Fujitsu> lshw, alxwind.
[11:17] <sol_> will synaptic open a .run file or use terminal
[11:17] <alxwind> 10x Fujitsu
[11:18] <Fujitsu> sol_, just run it.
[11:18] <kremsner> Fujitsu I Want to Manage my Buddy Alerts.... I just can add them but don't know how to delete them
[11:18] <Fujitsu> Buddy Pounce?
[11:18] <cskeide> i've been having trouble with bittorrent clients segfault'ing. i just uninstalled samba, and they all work as they should. is this a known issue/bug?
[11:18] <Ocult> hello
[11:18] <dli> curley_sue, linux101, nothing but backup can save you :) if you can, set up backup
[11:18] <rafflesdude> hey guys someone can help me out here
[11:19] <Ocult> how can i do the gdesklets begin together Gnome ???
[11:19] <rafflesdude> kinda new to unbuntu
[11:19] <Ocult> please ?
[11:19] <sol_> me too new to ubuntu
[11:19] <rafflesdude> was wonderin how to change the settings of a document (removin read only) status
[11:19] <sol_> clueless
[11:19] <curley_sue> dli can u explain more? (did u mean I should have had a backup of my data?)
[11:19] <sol_> been apt-getting all nite
[11:19] <soulfreshner> rafflesdude: you need to use chmod
[11:19] <cskeide> Ocult, open "system -> preferences -> sessions" and add gdesklets
[11:20] <dli> rafflesdude, try the file browser ( nautilus)
[11:20] <OffHand> ocult, system > preferences > sessions
[11:20] <rafflesdude> i tried file browser
[11:20] <rafflesdude> but it says i dont have root permission
[11:20] <rafflesdude> how to use chmod
[11:20] <dli> rafflesdude, if you still want more, "man chmod", like "chmod +w foo"
[11:20] <soulfreshner> rafflesdude: to execute anything as the superuser you need to prepend the command with sudo
[11:20] <Ocult> OffHand, in sessions add something ?
[11:21] <Ocult> thank u
[11:21] <dli> rafflesdude, okay, you can "sudo chmod a+w foo"
[11:21] <OffHand> startup programs tab
[11:21] <israel> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/FireFox7.htm
[11:21] <rafflesdude> oh ok
[11:21] <OffHand> type gdesklets
[11:21] <rafflesdude> i'll try that
[11:21] <rafflesdude> thanks a lot!
[11:21] <monsterb> !firewall
[11:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[11:21] <soulfreshner> rafflesdude: It's bad news to log in as the superuser espescially if you are still new to ubuntu - it is possible, but by the time you find out how to do it, you won't want to anyway :)
[11:21] <Ocult> OffHand, thanks
[11:21] <israel> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/FireFox7.htm
[11:22] <rafflesdude> i see ok thanks
[11:22] <rafflesdude> ill save that for later
[11:22] <dli> rafflesdude, don't change any system files, only change your own
[11:22] <rafflesdude> well aparently
[11:22] <rafflesdude> it's one of the solutions
[11:23] <rafflesdude> to correct my resolution problem
[11:23] <kremsner> Fujitsu any Suggestions?
[11:23] <dli> soulfreshner, I don't worry, new users can learn a lesson by making mistakes
[11:23] <rafflesdude> because i have the lowest 600*400 settings
[11:23] <soulfreshner> dli: :)
[11:23] <rafflesdude> so i have to edit this particular system gile
[11:23] <rafflesdude> file
[11:23] <dli> rafflesdude, don't do chmod to change resolution, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:23] <mosi> can anyone tell me if ubuntu comes with an archive tool that can handle .rar files, and if so what it's called?
[11:24] <Fujitsu> mosi, install package unrar-nonfree
[11:24] <mosi> fujitsu: thanks
[11:24] <cskeide> i'm running dapper and been having trouble with bittorrent clients segfault'ing. i just uninstalled samba, and they all work as they should. is this a known issue/bug? any idea how to get bittorrent working with samba installed?
[11:24] <BlueEagle> cskeide: #ubuntu+1 please
[11:24] <BlueEagle> !dapper
[11:24] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[11:25] <rafflesdude> ok dli
[11:25] <mosi> Fujitsu: does that install libs for KDE Archive manager, or is it it's own thing?
[11:25] <rafflesdude> btw how do i even copy text frm this box? lol
[11:25] <dli> rafflesdude, ask here before you do something to the system, or read a howto
[11:25] <rafflesdude> oh ok..i did..and i was directed to this page
[11:25] <darx> greetings
[11:25] <rafflesdude> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:25] <dli> rafflesdude, Ctl-C here, and Ctl-Shift-V in gnome-terminal
[11:25] <chunky_munkey> is there any file share programs for linux?
[11:26] <Fujitsu> It should work with both Ark and it's own thing, I think, mosi.
[11:26] <HunterZ>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 2006debian
[11:26] <mosi> Fujitsu: got it, thanks a lot :)
[11:26] <rafflesdude> i tried the first methog there
[11:26] <Fujitsu> No problem, mosi.
[11:26] <rafflesdude> didnt work...im tryin the second one
[11:26] <rafflesdude> shld i go ahead with it dli?
[11:26] <darx> i'd like to run a shutdown script.. Where do i have to save the script??
[11:27] <Steed> !exit
[11:27] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Steed
[11:27] <chunky_munkey> whats a good fileshare for linux
[11:27] <gmi01> Hello, I have the following problem: I have to run apt-get update every other days otherwise i get an error message that says "W: Couldn't stat source package list" for every package
[11:27] <dli> rafflesdude, followinig the wiki is a good way
[11:27] <gmi01> Anyone knows how to fix it?
[11:27] <dli> rafflesdude, you got 855, I see
[11:27] <soulfreshner> is there some program that could install ubuntu on a remote server? that would be a nice treat...reinstalling a server remotely
[11:27] <darx> chunky_munkey, frostwire,amule
[11:27] <soulfreshner> ...it should be possible
[11:28] <exn> my wireless card (ipw2100) can't detect any network, can anyone help me ?
[11:28] <rafflesdude> 855?
[11:28] <rafflesdude> what do u mean?
[11:28] <darx> i'd like to run a shutdown script.. Where do i have to save the script?? any ideas??
[11:28] <dli> gmi01, you may need to check your network :( figure out why it couldn't fetch
[11:28] <Fujitsu> i855, the chipset, rafflesdude.
[11:29] <rafflesdude> how did u find out?
[11:29] <dli> exn: ipw2100 is for b protocol only, enable B mode at your ap (router)
[11:29] <gmi01> dli, No apt-get update works fine when I run it but the thing is I have to run it every other day
[11:29] <rafflesdude> ok so what's my next step
[11:29] <exn> dli, it's already in B mode only
[11:29] <ic56> darx: what kind of shutdown script?  is the standard shutdown program insufficient for your needs?
[11:29] <dli> gmi01, i think apt is in /etc/cron.daily
[11:29] <rafflesdude> i tried the reconfig thing it didnt work
[11:30] <dli> exn, "sudo iwlist eth1 scan", if it's eth1
[11:30] <darx> ic56, i'd like to release the lease and reset the saved leases
[11:30] <jink_> ????
[11:30] <darx> ic56, the DHCP leases
[11:30] <dli> rafflesdude, and 855resolution?
[11:30] <exn> eth0      No scan results
[11:30] <exn> dli, eth0      No scan results
[11:31] <rafflesdude> yes dli?
[11:31] <dli> exn, sudo iwconfig eth0
[11:31] <dli> rafflesdude, are you sure you set enable video for video in bios? like more than 8MB
[11:31] <gmi01> dli, thanks, I will have a look at that cron job
[11:31] <rafflesdude> ok i'll try that again
[11:32] <rafflesdude> 8MB?
[11:32] <rafflesdude> or more?
[11:32] <chunky_munkey> how do you unpack a tar?
[11:32] <dli> rafflesdude, sudo 855resolution -l
[11:32] <darx> ic56: i'd like to release the DHCP lease and reset the saved leases
[11:32] <rafflesdude> i type that into command?
[11:32] <dli> rafflesdude, anything more than 640x480?
[11:33] <alexandros_se> Where can I get in contact with someone working on the Ubuntu?
[11:33] <BlueEagle> grats corey.
[11:33] <rafflesdude> no...only show 640 *480
[11:33] <corey> :-D
[11:33] <rafflesdude> no other options dli
[11:33] <corey> i like
[11:33] <ic56> darx: to cause a script to be executed during shutdown, put it in /etc/init.d and then link it to the /etc/rc?.d directories
[11:33] <corey> now i just need help getting my wifi to work :(
[11:33] <BlueEagle> !wifi
[11:33] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:33] <dli> rafflesdude, check bios, reboot, enter bios, find out howmuch video ram is reserved, make it larger than 8MB
[11:33] <BlueEagle> corey: You probably also want support for mp3 and nvidia
[11:34] <corey> lol thanks
[11:34] <corey> nope
[11:34] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell corey about mp3
[11:34] <corey> just wifi
[11:34] <corey> ;)
[11:34] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell corey about nvidia
[11:34] <ic56> darx: the scripts in /etc/init.d have a specific format.  Make sure to immitate it -- you need to provide start, stop, and restart methods at minimum.
[11:34] <darx> ic56: thanks buddy.
[11:34] <BlueEagle> what? No mp3? I'm proud of you. :)
[11:34] <chunky_munkey> darx, where do i get frost wire
[11:35] <Edgy_Eft> my systemsounds are not played anymore....i restartet alsa-utils restart and heared two knacks
[11:35] <Edgy_Eft> but with no effect
[11:35] <rafflesdude> ok will do that and be nback here again
[11:35] <darx> chunky_munkey: ther's a .deb at the frostwire website
[11:35] <rafflesdude> thanks dli
[11:35] <chunky_munkey> ok
[11:35] <chunky_munkey> how do i install debs and tars?
[11:35] <darx> ic56: wouldn't a normal shell script suffice??
[11:35] <curley_sue> dli, Fujitsu, I'm working on the fatback installation. in the meanwhile I wanted to b sure: % fatback -a -o ~/recoverydir /dev/hda5 (where hda5 was the partition mounted to mountpoint)
[11:35] <ic56> darx: note the presence of /etc/init.d/networking .  To release your DHCP leases, it may be more appropriate to add your code in there.
[11:36] <alxwind> OFFTOP: any canadians chat here?  :)
[11:36] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13135
[11:36] <dli> curley_sue, still read docs of fatback, make sure it won't write anything to /dev/hda5
[11:37] <darx> ic56: as i said before i'd also like to reset the saved leases. ubuntu for somereason defaults to the expired leases
[11:37] <alxwind> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:37] <chunky_munkey> darx, whats a good server on amule for music/.
[11:37] <chunky_munkey> or where can i get more servers cause its all porn
[11:38] <darx> chunky_munkey: any server would suffice do a global search for more hits.
[11:38] <curley_sue> dli, i could not find anything rearding this matter neither in info nor in man
[11:38] <darx> chunky_munkey: filter you searches for whatever formats you are interested in
[11:39] <chunky_munkey> where do i do a globel search
[11:40] <darx> chunky_munkey: its in the search window, enable the extended parameters
[11:40] <chunky_munkey> seekin music
[11:40] <chunky_munkey> ok
[11:40] <chunky_munkey> think its workin
[11:41] <chunky_munkey> what do you think about apollon?
[11:42] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13136
[11:42] <tombs> hi all
[11:42] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13136
[11:43] <darx> chunky_munkey: haven't tried it yet
[11:43] <chunky_munkey> well amule is amazing
[11:43] <chunky_munkey> lots of hits so far
[11:43] <chunky_munkey> i havent even made it to frost wire yet
[11:44] <chunky_munkey> thanks for the tip
[11:44] <darx> chunky_munkey: the edonkey network has the most files
[11:44] <darx> chunky_munkey: just download the .deb from frostwire's website and double click to install
[11:44] <curley_sue> dli, Fujitsu pls check the following http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13137
[11:44] <darx> its easy as that
[11:45] <darx> chunky_munkey: but you need java as well for frostwire
[11:45] <chunky_munkey> oh well thats another process then
[11:45] <muhammed> can anyone help me with mount
[11:45] <darx> chunky_munkey: but you need java as well for frostwire
[11:46] <chunky_munkey> i dont know much about linux
[11:46] <Fujitsu> Ask away, muhammed.
[11:46] <darx> chunky_munkey: there's a guide in the ubuntu wiki for java
[11:46] <dli> curley_sue, maybe, fatback's fault :( google for another tool
[11:46] <chunky_munkey> ok
[11:46] <darx> chunky_munkey: it's quite easy just look around
[11:46] <chunky_munkey> edonkey is on frostwire?
[11:46] <darx> chunky_munkey: nope gnutella
[11:47] <muhammed> well I  can se the hardrive in my desktop hda1 but when i press its says no permission
[11:47] <darx> chunky_munkey: its faster than edonkey most of the time but less hits
[11:47] <doms> you need to mount your hda1
[11:47] <Fujitsu> No.
[11:47] <chunky_munkey> ok
[11:47] <Fujitsu> doms, the issue is the NTFS umask.
[11:48] <chunky_munkey> ok im downloading forstwire now
[11:48] <Ocult> ompaul, HELLO !!
[11:48] <ic56> forget justask
[11:48] <ic56> justask is <reply> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[11:48] <doms> umask=0222
[11:48] <darx> chunky_munkey: remember to install java
[11:49] <darx> chunky_munkey: before frostwire
[11:49] <chunky_munkey> ok
[11:49] <doms> /dev/hda1 media/windows ntfs umask=0222 0 0
[11:49] <johndoe> anybody successfully using a bluetooth keyboard?
[11:49] <chunky_munkey> ok 1 sec got to find the wiki
[11:49] <curley_sue> dli, Fujitsu how can I create an image of my partition?
[11:50] <Fujitsu> dd if=/dev/partition of=somefile
[11:50] <dli> it's not needed now :)
[11:51] <doms> yes even me i use a wireless monitor of my dapper drake
[11:51] <doms> so far so good
[11:51] <darx> ic56: thanks a ton mate
[11:52] <johndoe> doms: and you also use a bt keyboard?
[11:52] <johndoe> may i ask which one
[11:53] <FearMoth> I have a problem.. in ubuntu breezy/dapper the sound worked fine. now I installed kubuntu and I have no sound .. anyone have any ideas what's going wrong?
[11:54] <rafflesdude> how do i save a document in nano text editor?
[11:54] <overrider_> is geom stable enough to build a raid1 and use it on a production fileserver?
[11:54] <overrider_> rafflesdude, ctrl+w
[11:54] <ic56> !justask
[11:54] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[11:54] <overrider_> ctrl+x
[11:55] <rafflesdude> thanks!
[11:56] <corey> how can i open an exe file?
[11:56] <delta> Hi. Anyone "working" with/for the ubuntu-shop?
[11:58] <spiritz> corey: you  don't want to open .exe file; .exe run on windows, linux bascially doesn't use .exe files
[11:58] <corey> ;(
[11:58] <corey> well the ubuntu site gives an exe
[11:58] <corey> blah
[11:59] <corey> will win64 drivers work?
[11:59] <spiritz> no, not any windows driver/program works basically; it's not made for... there's workaround but you don't want to to this
[11:59] <spiritz> which .exe are you trying to launch?
[11:59] <corey> well i know that
[12:00] <corey> im trying to get my wifi working
[12:00] <spiritz> what's your wifi card?
[12:00] <corey> and the guide on ubuntus site says i need the .sys and .inf
[12:00] <corey> from the windows driver
[12:00] <corey> broadcom
[12:00] <corey> pciid 14e4:4318
[12:00] <spiritz> ok, the it might be an exception
[12:00] <corey> there are 3 ones listed
[12:00] <corey> and im not sure which will work
[12:00] <corey> the one i thought would work is .exe :(
[12:01] <spiritz> try doing unzip .exe
[12:01] <corey> nope
[12:01] <corey> ;9
[12:01] <corey> idk why they link to an exe
[12:02] <spiritz> there must be a way
[12:02] <corey> yea if i could get the link on my windows machine
[12:02] <corey> and somehow send a zip to this machine
[12:02] <spiritz> can you show me the webpage u're reading?
[12:02] <corey> hold on let me just dl it on my windows machine and zizp it
[12:03] <corey> its the wifidocs ndlswrapper ubuntu
[12:03] <spiritz> ok ic
[12:03] <corey> lemme try and email this to myself then go and do it on the windows machine
[12:08] <corey> agh! why wont it unzip it
[12:09] <darden> salut
[12:09] <darden> je n'arrive pas  installer democracy
[12:09] <ic56> !fr
[12:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:10] <darden> en fait je ne sais pas installer tout court je crois ;)
[12:13] <Storkme> how can i find out the model of my ATI graphics card?
[12:13] <bimberi> Storkme: 'lspci' (in a terminal) may tell you
[12:13] <Storkme> bimberi, okay, thanks
[12:14] <Storkme> '0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] '
[12:14] <Storkme> so that means my card is a 'Radeon Mobility 7500' ?
[12:15] <bimberi> Stork: i think so - i'm not familar with models of ati cards though
[12:15] <Storkme> okay, nor am i
[12:15] <kimrhh> could someone tell me how to get tetex-extra into my package lists ?
[12:16] <Storkme> bimberi, do you know if my card supports 3d accelleration?
[12:16] <dli> Storkme, I think yes
[12:18] <bimberi> Storkme: i think dli probably knows better than me :)
[12:18] <bimberi> !info tetex-extra
[12:18] <ubotu> tetex-extra: (Additional library files of teTeX), section tex, is optional. Version: 2.0.2c-8 (breezy), Packaged size: 10222 kB, Installed size: 39160 kB
[12:18] <Storkme> okay thanks dli. Do you know which driver i should be using for 3d gaming?
[12:18] <kimrhh> ubotu: yes, but I can't install it
[12:18] <ubotu> kimrhh: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:19] <kimrhh> it doesn't exist in my packagelists
[12:19] <bimberi> kimrhh: put your sources.list on the pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ )
[12:20] <bimberi> !ati
[12:20] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:20] <corey> W00T
[12:20] <corey> i think i got wifi installed
[12:21] <mc44> Hey I cant remeber the name of the program which shows yoer disk space usage like a pie chart divided by folders, anyone know what its called?
[12:21] <kimrhh> bimberi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13140
[12:23] <bimberi> !repos
[12:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:23] <corey> brb unplugging wired connection!
[12:23] <bimberi> kimrhh: i would completely replace that with the contents of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (from above)
[12:23] <loothinker> what's the default user and password of PostgreSql-8.1?
[12:24] <rysiek|pl> hi there, everyone
[12:24] <bimberi> loothinker: 'sudo su - postgres' and you should get administrative access (iirc)
[12:25] <loothinker> bimberi:thanks
[12:25] <Doat> mc44, baobab?
[12:25] <rysiek|pl> does anybody know(man, I love this phrase!) in which group(s) a user has to be to be able to run a daemon, listening on localhost:<some_port>?
[12:25] <bimberi> loothinker: not yet, make sure it works first :)
[12:25] <loothinker> i sure
[12:26] <Storkme> bimberi, sorry to bother you again but xserver says my graphics card is a 'Radeon Mobility 9000 (M7 LW)', not a 'Radeon Mobility 7500'
[12:26] <kimrhh> bimberi: thx, that worked
[12:26] <bimberi> Storkme: ooh then https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI might work for you then
[12:27] <bimberi> kimrhh: np :)
[12:27] <Storkme> bimberi, so i shouldn't believe lspci?
[12:28] <Storkme> bimberi, okay, i'll try that. brb
[12:28] <bimberi> Storkme: actually i'd probably believe lspci first - but you never know
[12:28] <Stork> bimberi: didn't work
[12:29] <ic56> rysiek|pl: each daemon is different.
[12:29] <Stork> bimberi: my error was '(EE) No devices found' :(
[12:29] <bimberi> Stork: :(
[12:29] <rysiek|pl> ic56: yeah, I know. I am starting *my own* daemon and I am sure there must be a group that has access to TCP/IP
[12:30] <rysiek|pl> ic56: just like the audio and video groups have access to the audio and video hardware, respectively
[12:30] <ic56> rysiek|pl: not a group.  You are probably thinking of the need to access privileged ports (TCP ports below 1024).  And for that, you need to be uid root.
[12:31] <rysiek|pl> ic56: nope - the port I need access to is 1314 (actually, I can set that up for any port)
[12:31] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13141
[12:31] <doms> i cant search a record
[12:31] <ic56> rysiek|pl: if the port is above 1024, you don't need any special privige.  You could run the daemon as yourself.  However, for better security, you should...
[12:32] <ic56> rysiek|pl: create a uid and group specific to the service offered by that daemon and run the daemon under that uid/gid.  A final alternative is
[12:32] <rysiek|pl> that's just what I am trying to do
[12:34] <ic56> rysiek|pl: to run the daemon as nobody:nogroup which is meant for deamons that have *no* private data.  That id and gid should not own any files at all on your system.  Thus, if the daemon becomes compromised, the cracker won't gain access to any resources.
[12:34] <rysiek|pl> great, thx for the hint
[12:34] <Doat> when i try to mark pcsx for installation it tells me that dependencies psemu-video-x11 OR psemu-video can't be installed. what can i do?
[12:35] <Rafael> high room. does anyone use a video camera with ubunt ? i am looking for basic video capturing and editing software ... help, anyone ?
[12:36] <bimberi> !info kino
[12:36] <ubotu> kino: (Non-linear editor for Digital Video data), section graphics, is extra. Version: 0.75-7ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 725 kB, Installed size: 2676 kB
[12:36] <priyank> hey
[12:36] <Rafael> bimberi: ty!
[12:36] <priyank> whats the pacakge name for tightvnc?
[12:36] <bimberi> Rafael: np :)
[12:37] <fred__> join #ubuntu-fr
[12:37] <bimberi> priyank: tightvncserver (tip: search in synaptic or 'apt-cache search tightvnc')
[12:37] <priyank> bimberi: apt-get install tightvncserver doesnt work
[12:38] <bimberi> !info tightvncserver
[12:38] <ubotu> tightvncserver: (virtual network computing server software), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.9-6build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 610 kB, Installed size: 1364 kB
[12:38] <bimberi> priyank: it's in the universe repository ...
[12:38] <cornernote_> hello
[12:38] <bimberi> ubotu tell priyank about universe
[12:38] <blixtra> Is anybody able to view the videos at http://www.firefoxflicks.com/ with mplayer-plugin?
[12:39] <Doat> !pcsx
[12:39] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Doat
[12:39] <cornernote_> i want to run a barebones ubuntu.. i need X but i dont need a window manager...   what debs do i need to get ?
[12:39] <blixtra> for me it hangs at 99% and does nothing
[12:39] <doms> theirs something like a amarok for gnome
[12:39] <blixtra> doms: try banshee
[12:40] <doms> banshee
[12:40] <blixtra> yep
[12:40] <doms> that has a online radio
[12:40] <priyank> thanks bimberi
[12:40] <bimberi> priyank: np :)
[12:40] <blixtra> doms: I'm not sure I never use it for that
[12:41] <bimberi> cornernote_: a 'server' install plus x-window-system-core would be my guess
[12:41] <Rafael> how can i find out which device name is used by a connected ffirewire video camera
[12:42] <Rafael>  is there something like lsusb or lspci for firewire ?
[12:45] <doms> someone knows a online radio for gnome
[12:45] <Rafael> you may use rythmbox
[12:45] <Rafael> if u like it
[12:45] <Rafael> or xmms
[12:46] <chandscomb> hey where can i go to find people with music?
[12:46] <Rafael> live365.com
[12:46] <chandscomb> presumably this works like the windows 'Mirc'?
[12:46] <chandscomb> thankkooo
[12:47] <doms> novell for music online radio
[12:47] <Rafael> bestter shoutcast.com
[12:47] <Rafael> s/bester/better/
[12:47] <Rafael> anyone here with firewire knowledge ?
[12:48] <chandscomb> firewire being the ipod cable firewire?
[12:48] <Rafael> well, it's a video camera .... blockdevice also (the block device is working)
[12:48] <chandscomb> hmm
[12:48] <chandscomb> your using it on linux?
[12:49] <Rafael> well, not i use windows .. .that's why i ask here ... j/k
[12:49] <Storkme> where are the xserver detailed output files?
[12:49] <cornernote_> hi, on windows if i give a computer a name, other computers can see it using that name... can i setup linux the same ?
[12:49] <doms> where i can download novell client and novell server for linux server and windows client
[12:49] <Rafael>  ... /var/X.NN.log
[12:49] <cornernote_> so that i can have a computer using DHCP with a static name on the local network
[12:50] <Rafael> err .... / var/logs/X.NN.log
[12:50] <nikusan> cornernote_, system > admin > networking > general > hostname
[12:50] <Rafael> Storkme: /var/logs/Xorg.0.log
[12:51] <cornernote_> nikusan: other computers on the network dont seem to be picking up the hostname of my linux box
[12:51] <doms> where i can a download a free novell server  for my ubuntu box running on server  and i hav a 7 client running on windows download a windows client too
[12:51] <cornernote_> unless i have an internal DNS server or use hosts files or something
[12:51] <nikusan> cornernote_, windows computers?
[12:51] <Ocult> hello
[12:51] <cornernote_> yes
[12:51] <Ocult> somebody here use vnc ?
[12:51] <nikusan> cornernote_, you need to install samba
[12:52] <cornernote_> i dont want to share files across the network... i just want to see apache on my linux box
[12:52] <cornernote_> i still need samba ?
[12:52] <nikusan> cornernote_, oh sorry, I'm not sure
[12:52] <cornernote_> * and i dont want to type the IP cos its DHCP
[12:53] <ic56> cornernote_ when you say you want other computers to see the ubuntu computer's name, what do you mean?  In which applications do you want the computer's name to be visible?
[12:53] <Ali> hi all
[12:53] <Ali> how can i limit the /var/log size ?
[12:54] <Rafael> ali: you may use logrotation ... on a nightly basis (via cron)
[12:54] <Ali> logrotate ?
[12:55] <WarOfAttrition> could someone tell me where 'glib-config' 'xmms-config' and 'gtk-config' are found on ubuntu?
[12:55] <cornernote_> ic56: i want to be able to ping my ubuntu
[12:55] <cornernote_> from windows... using a name not an IP
[12:55] <WarOfAttrition> or what their equivalents are?
[12:56] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: i thing you need the glib-devel package
[12:56] <Hoodster> Hi All, does anyone know what this message means? "Warning: /proc/ide/hd?/settings interface is obsolete, and will be removed soon!"
[12:56] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: not sure as i have a gentoo background
[12:56] <corey> woot!
[12:57] <corey> got wifi to work
[12:57] <corey> quite easily i might add
[12:58] <WarOfAttrition> Ali: I already have libglib2.0-dev is that it?
[12:58] <WarOfAttrition> same with the devel of gtk
[12:58] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: i think yes
[12:58] <ic56> Ali: logrotate config files are in /etc/logrotate.d/.  You can set the frequency of rotation and size of logfiles there.
[12:59] <WarOfAttrition> then it's a mystery where their 'config' files are
[12:59] <WarOfAttrition> so I can't compile jack
[12:59] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: it's weird, i have it here
[12:59] <WarOfAttrition> in what location?
[01:00] <Ali> /usr/bin
[01:00] <Ali> $ which glib-config
[01:00] <Ali> /usr/bin/glib-config
[01:00] <Ali> thank you ic56
[01:00] <ramless> hi.. starting achilles i received the message Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". i use nv driver, i have load "glx" in config file.. any suggestions??
[01:01] <WarOfAttrition> all I have there about glib is glib-genmarshal  glib-gettextize  glib-mkenums
[01:01] <WarOfAttrition> but I'm guessing that's not what I'm looking for
[01:01] <si|vercat> cornernote_, make a static dhcp lease and assign it a name, depending on the server it should add an entry to the dns-server
[01:02] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: if you know an equivalent for equery in ubuntu, i can tell you to which package it belongs
[01:02] <Steff_breezy> Hi, I have a massive problem: when I open my home folder with nautilus, the window opens, but the files/folders in it are not to be seen, just an empty space in the window. You have to kill this window to close it. After a few minutes, I have an intense disk activity and have to restart X, cause it hangs then. Reboot didnt help. Other nautilus windows react normally. Please help
[01:02] <bakert> Steff_breezy: what the hell you got in there?
[01:02] <WarOfAttrition> I do not
[01:02] <bakert> Steff_breezy: can you do an ls in a terminal?
[01:02] <Steff_breezy> bakert, nothing special..
[01:02] <Steff_breezy> bakert, yes
[01:02] <bakert> Steff_breezy: how many files?
[01:03] <bakert> Steff_breezy: ls -la | wc -l
[01:03] <Ali> Steff_breezy: killall -9 gnome-thumbnailer
[01:03] <Ali> or something like that
[01:03] <delta> Excuse me, someone "working" with/for the ubuntu-shop?
[01:03] <Steff_breezy> bakert, 99 files
[01:04] <Steff_breezy> Ali, I have rebooted, so this will probably without effort?
[01:04] <bakert> Steff_breezy: hmm ... are any of them images?  that is not a terrible thought from Ali .. could be something to do with trying to generate a thumbnail?
[01:04] <ic56> cornernote_: it seems I had a bug which made it appear like people were sending me private messages.
[01:04] <bakert> Steff_breezy: mind you it does thumbnails for lots of things
[01:04] <Ali> Steff_breezy: it's run when you open a folder with thumbnailable thingies
[01:04] <bakert> Steff_breezy: like pdfs, etc.  Perhaps you can get into list view first then go there and see if it is better behaved?
[01:05] <bakert> Steff_breezy: oh no that doesnt work, views are per folder ... it might be a setting?
[01:05] <soundray> Steff_breezy: if I were you, I would just leave the window for 10 or 15 minutes. Once the thumbnails are in the cache, it shouldn't take this long to open it again.
[01:05] <bakert> Steff_breezy: yes - Edit, Preferences and its there
[01:05] <WarOfAttrition> Ali: btw are you on dapper?
[01:05] <Steff_breezy> bakert, theres no image or media file in it
[01:06] <bakert> Steff_breezy: i would try changing pref to list view and see if it helps ... just to eliminate the possibility
[01:06] <bakert> Steff_breezy: and because i dont have any better ideas!
[01:06] <bakert> sorry!
[01:06] <soundray> I've installed r-cran-rmysql. What else do I need to do to use it? Right now, "m <- dbDriver("MySQL")" gives me "couldn't find function "dbDriver""
[01:06] <Steff_breezy> bakert, ok, Ill try
[01:06] <Steff_breezy> thx for your help, 1 sec
[01:06] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: yes
[01:07] <WarOfAttrition> I see, that might be it then
[01:07] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: oO
[01:07] <WarOfAttrition> I'm still on 5.10
[01:07] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: that's weird, glib-config had been there for ages
[01:08] <Steff_breezy> you were right, in list view it opens!!
[01:08] <WarOfAttrition> then I guess it's a conspiracy, doesn't want me to compile
[01:08] <bakert> Steff_breezy: hmm ... ok so now it is a question of what is the culprit.
[01:08] <Steff_breezy> I also turned thumbnails off
[01:08] <bakert> Steff_breezy: you could try moving half the files somewhere else and keep doing half again and find the culprit(s) by process of elimination?
[01:09] <bakert> Steff_breezy: or it could be that there is something wrong with thumbnail generation on your machine, period
[01:09] <bakert> Steff_breezy: or perhaps this is enough of a fix?
[01:09] <Ali> ic56 ???
[01:09] <Steff_breezy> i changed to symbol view again and it frooze again. what do i have to type to restart nautilus
[01:10] <Steff_breezy> ?
[01:10] <soundray> Steff_breezy: just give it a bit of time.
[01:10] <Steff_breezy> soundray, it did many times, it wont help
[01:10] <soundray> Steff_breezy: 10 minutes?
[01:10] <bakert> soundray: you think that's normal behaviour?  it shouldnt freeze, just not show the icons for a while if it is working ok?
[01:10] <orbin> Steff_breezy: what are your system specs?
[01:10] <bakert> orbin: good question
[01:10] <Steff_breezy> soundray, really, so long?
[01:10] <Ali> Steff_breezy: open the gconf-editor
[01:11] <Steff_breezy> orbin, amd 2100+ 256 ram
[01:11] <soundray> bakert: like orbin says, it depends on the specs of course.
[01:11] <WarOfAttrition> btw does anyone know if xmms plugins are compatible with bmp?
[01:11] <Steff_breezy> Ali, yes?
[01:11] <Ali> Steff_breezy: and disable all thumbnailers
[01:11] <ramless> hi.. starting achilles i received the message Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". i use nv driver, i have load "glx" in config file.. any suggestions??
[01:11] <Ali> Steff_breezy: they are somewhere on /desktop
[01:11] <Acidic> anyone had experience with webmin
[01:11] <orbin> WarOfAttrition: yes, they are
[01:12] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: not all of them
[01:12] <Steff_breezy> soundray, do you really think I should wait ten minutes for nautilus
[01:12] <Steff_breezy> ?
[01:12] <Ali> anyone willing to help me reducing my /var/log size ?
[01:12] <black_hwk> hi is there any softwares like SQLYog that I can download via apt-get?
[01:13] <soundray> Steff_breezy: I think it's a matter of doing it just once. Then the thumbnails will be cached (I assume)
[01:13] <Ali> Steff_breezy: i am running dapper on an old 600 Mhz with 196Mb
[01:13] <bakert> black_hwk: what is SQLYog?
[01:13] <WarOfAttrition> probably running fluxbox?
[01:13] <Acidic> Can anyone help me with a poblem im having with webmin...
[01:14] <Steff_breezy> soundray, I have turned thumbnail previews completely off, but I have switched from list to symbol view and it froze again
[01:14] <soundray> Ali, edit /etc/logrotate.conf
[01:14] <bakert> Steff_breezy: so it is something other than thumbnails about icon view??  Odd.
[01:14] <Ali> soundray: and ?
[01:15] <soundray> Steff_breezy: okay, I guess you've proved me wrong.
[01:15] <bakert> anyone know the xchat keyboard shortcut for "next window"?
[01:15] <xerophyte>  If i understood correctly if i wanna setup small business envoriment with file server + printer server i need samba on the linux server .. is there any other way to setup ??
[01:15] <soundray> Ali: ...use your head.
[01:15] <Ali> lol
[01:15] <bakert> xerophyte: samba is best if you want to talk to windows machines
[01:15] <soundray> Ali: sorry, that was rude
[01:16] <Ali> not at all
[01:16] <soundray> Ali: but you have to decide for yourself what the best balance is between having a log history and disk usage.
[01:16] <Ali> :)
[01:16] <black_hwk> bakert, its an SQL client, with GUI. I can export and import SQL tables and structures as .csv files.
[01:16] <bakert> xerophyte: of course ideally you dont have any windows machines and therefore dont need samba
[01:16] <orbin> bakert: ctrl + pgdn/pgup
[01:16] <bakert> black_hwk: there's mysql control center but that is no longer supported
[01:16] <WarOfAttrition> ok, im mad enough, gonna ask in the forum, probably to no avail
[01:16] <Ali> soundray: i'd go for a 1 day log file
[01:16] <soulfreshner>  I can hear my mic if I unmute it, so it is working, but for some reason I can't record from it using the sound recorder
[01:16] <bakert> black_hwk: and there's the program that replaced it Query Something I think
[01:16] <bakert> black_hwk: i dont like that so much
[01:17] <soulfreshner> what should I check?
[01:17] <Ali> soundray: 4.2G used for log on a 8.7 disk is not fun at all
[01:17] <black_hwk> bakert, i see. any other programs with gui and import/export facility?
[01:17] <bakert> !mysql
[01:17] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:17] <bakert> hmmm
[01:17] <bakert> not that useful
[01:17] <soundray> Ali: oh, you've got a problem. Something is logging excessive errors.
[01:18] <Ali> soundray: i know
[01:18] <orbin> Steff_breezy: just for the hell of it, maybe try deleting ~/.thumbnails ?
[01:18] <bakert> black_hwk: i havent used anything else.  there's the godawful phpmyadmin that people somehow use - web based
[01:18] <soundray> Ali: do a 'ls -srS /var/log | tail -n 1' to see what the biggest file is.
[01:18] <Ali> soundray: it's the kernel logging about my cdrom
[01:18] <Acidic> Can anyone help me with a problem I'm having getting webmin to start
[01:18] <Fujitsu> mysql-admin?
[01:18] <bakert> black_hwk: i dont like that though
[01:18] <soundray> Ali: why don't you solve that then?
[01:18] <xerophyte> bakert, what if you have apple ox boxes ??
[01:18] <Fujitsu> What's the issue, Acidic?
[01:18] <Ali> soundray: cannot, it's a false error
[01:18] <soundray> Ali: what does it say/
[01:18] <bakert> xerophyte: good question!  i guess they can samba too, being unix, but i've not done it
[01:18] <soundray> ?
[01:18] <Acidic> Fujitsu: Well, i apt-get install'd it and it said it was started.. So i tried to connect http://ip:10000 and nothing
[01:19] <blazemonger> anyone here on the ubuntu development team
[01:19] <noiesmo> Acidic, isnt it localhost by default and https
[01:19] <Ali> soundray: drive hdc ... appears confused
[01:19] <Acidic> Fujitsu: So i go and look if it's running, and it's not.. So i did a /etc/init.d/webmin start
[01:19] <Acidic> Fujitsu, im trying to access from another pc
[01:19] <billytwowilly> hi, in dapper my sound is WAY too loud and adjusting the sound with the audio control in the top right corner doesn't change the volume at all.. how do I fix this?
[01:19] <Fujitsu> Acidic, it runs on localhost only by default, and uses HTTPS on port 10000.
[01:19] <Fujitsu> You need to modify the config from within webmin...
[01:20] <soundray> Ali, have you stfw for that error?
[01:20] <bakert> billytwowilly: PLAY SOME MOTORHEAD!
[01:20] <Acidic> Fujitsu: But the problem is, it's not in the process lists... and when i try to "start" it... it never comes on the processes :/
[01:20] <Ali> stfw ?
[01:20] <soundray> Ali, "searched the fine web"
[01:20] <Ali> no
[01:20] <Ali> soundray: i always had it with that drive
[01:20] <Acidic> noiesmo: Should i not see it in a ps aux | grep webmin
[01:20] <Ali> so i don't care much
[01:20] <immolo> Acidic, webmin is not a process it just like a web server
[01:21] <billytwowilly> ok.. adjusting the pcm sound setting changes the sound level, but adjusting the headphones or pc speakers sound setting does nothing..
[01:21] <Fujitsu> PC Speaker and headphones shouldn't change the speaker level!
[01:21] <noiesmo> Acidic, miniserv is its own server or it'll run on apache
[01:21] <billytwowilly> in the volume control app
[01:21] <Acidic> noiesmo, do i need apache for webmin to run?
[01:21] <billytwowilly> there's "headphones", "pcm" and "pc speaker" sound sliders
[01:21] <noiesmo> Acidic, no
[01:22] <soundray> Ali: well, I suggest you solve this problem instead of messing with your log settings.
[01:22] <Acidic> noiesmo, nevermind.. i just reread what you said.
[01:22] <Fujitsu> billytwowilly, PCM is the one you want.
[01:22] <noiesmo> Acidic, it should use miniserv part of webmin but localhost or https
[01:22] <Acidic> noiesmo, what is the name of the config file i need to change then.. because from my pc here (not the one with webmin) https://ip:10000 does not work either
[01:22] <soundray> I've installed r-cran-rmysql. What else do I need to do to use it? Right now, "m <- dbDriver("MySQL")" gives me "couldn't find function "dbDriver""
[01:22] <billytwowilly> Fujitsu, but changing the volume slider that pops down from the applet in the top right doesn't do anything to the sound level...
[01:23] <noiesmo> Acidic, should be in /etc/webmin/ not sure what fill porb config
[01:23] <Acidic> noiesmo: the only conf file in /etc/webmin is update.conf and is empty
[01:23] <noiesmo> Acidic, havnt used it in awhile
[01:23] <blazemonger> anyone here use ubuntu for music production
[01:24] <Acidic> Fujitsu: This config from within webmin... how do i access that
[01:24] <bakert> blazemonger: i made a mash up mp3 with audacity once.  it was shit!
[01:24] <noiesmo> Acidic, miniserv.conf
[01:24] <Fujitsu> You need to access it from the local machine.
[01:24] <Fujitsu> Or try that.
[01:24] <Fujitsu> miniserv.conf.
[01:25] <bakert> blazemonger: but that was my talentlessness not audacity's fault!
[01:25] <Acidic> no file :/
[01:25] <Acidic> 3f7c2efe.0 acl miniserv.pem miniserv.users servers update.conf webmin webmin.acl webmin.acl.bak webminlog
[01:25] <Acidic> the next webmin folder is empty
[01:25] <Ali> soundray: it's related to irq, i have a very old mother board with weird irqs
[01:25] <blazemonger> bakert, :you should try Rosegarden
[01:25] <blazemonger> or soundtracker or cheesetracker
[01:25] <noiesmo> Acidic, is there anything in /usr/share/webmin
[01:26] <orbin> blazemonger: http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Welcome,_Musicians!
[01:26] <Acidic> noiesmo: yes
[01:26] <noiesmo> Acidic, if miniserv.conf check it then restart webmin
[01:26] <Acidic> noiesmo: no
[01:26] <Acidic> noiesmo: there is no miniserv.conf in /usr/share/webmin
[01:27] <noiesmo> Acidic, how did you install webmin
[01:27] <Acidic> noiesmo: apt-get install webmin
[01:27] <soundray> Ali: are you on kernel 2.6.12?
[01:28] <soundray> Do you guys know where the R statistics experts hang out?
[01:28] <soundray> IRC-wise?
[01:28] <noiesmo> Acidic, did it install webmin-core
[01:28] <Acidic> noiesmo, where would that be
[01:29] <noiesmo> Acidic, try sudo apt-get install webmin-core
[01:29] <blazemonger> bakert, :want to send me what you did with audicaty?
[01:30] <nikosgr> hello
[01:30] <Acidic> noiesmo, done
[01:30] <bakert> blazemonger: sooooo nooooo - it was Song2 by Blur and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band run together very amateurishly!
[01:30] <EnUm> hello
[01:30] <nikosgr> guys why apahces /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is empty?
[01:31] <Steff_breezy> Its me again, nautilus works as usual now, man- I had very bad 30 minutes .. :), this is what I did, dont now what solved the problem: deleted all ~./thumbnails, moved some files in "home" to another folder  in list view, now everything is ok again, thx for your help again
[01:31] <noiesmo> Acidic, did it install something if so check /etc/webmin folder again for files
[01:31] <blazemonger> bakert, :i might like it bakert
[01:31] <bakert> nikosgr: look under /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[01:31] <Acidic> noiesmo, there are new files in /etc/webmin
[01:31] <soundray> Steff_breezy: good troubleshooting, well done.
[01:31] <bakert> nikosgr: ubuntu does this funny thing using symlinks and multiple config files
[01:31] <Acidic> noiesmo, still not a miniserv.conf
[01:31] <noiesmo> Acidic, wooho the ones we need hopefully
[01:31] <soundray> Ali: are you on kernel 2.6.12?
[01:31] <bakert> nikosgr: its actually quite smart when you get to grips with it
[01:31] <EnUm> i need help concerning avi to dvd burning.i have a avi file and want to watch it on my tv dvd player.how can i convert the avi into a dvd file to burn it on dvd and watch it on the player?
[01:31] <noiesmo> Acidic, dam
[01:32] <noiesmo> Acidic, check this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7507&highlight=webmin
[01:32] <nikosgr> you eman th conf i foudn is a symlink
[01:32] <nikosgr> and not the actuial file?
[01:32] <noiesmo> noiesmo, it doesnt recommend using the apt version
[01:32] <noiesmo> Acidic, maybe it might be the go
[01:32] <bakert> nikogr: no i mean they moved where apache2 config goes
[01:32] <bakert> nikosgr: you put all config files in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[01:33] <Steff_breezy> cu, have a nice day
[01:33] <nikosgr> yes you were right
[01:33] <EnUm> i try to use avidemux 2,and convert the avi into "dvd" or mpeg 2.and how can i then burn it to watch it on the player?
[01:33] <noiesmo> Acidic, i'm running dapper so i cant install it via apt so i cant help anymore it's been to long since i used it :)
[01:33] <nikosgr> its there names as default
[01:33] <MisterN> hi
[01:33] <nikosgr> but man ima used to httpd.conf
[01:33] <bakert> nikosgr: and if you want them live you symlink to them in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[01:33] <bakert> nikosgr: for just one site/config file you just edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default (or whatever it is called)
[01:33] <Acidic> noieso, ok, thanks for the link.. I tried using a wget to get those files but i didntseem to get the whole thing.. ill be trying again
[01:33] <soundray> EnUm: have you seen this article: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/2058219
[01:34] <nikosgr> may i anme it httpd.conf?
[01:34] <soundray> nikosgr: why don't you make a soft link?
[01:34] <EnUm> soundray:no i haven't
[01:34] <darx> greeting guys
[01:34] <EnUm> oh,thx
[01:34] <darx> what is the command to delete the contents of a file
[01:35] <nikosgr> ln -s httpd.conf /etc/apache2/sites-availabe/default
[01:35] <edu> hey
[01:35] <ic56> darx: you mean you want the file to continue existing but be empty?
[01:35] <roryy> > thefile
[01:35] <Acidic> darx, do you want to keep the file there, just clean it out?
[01:35] <darx> yup
[01:35] <edu> when you instal vlc it comes with mp3 codecs etc.?
[01:35] <noiesmo> Acidic, the only other think is there might be some more webmin packages need so do apt-cache search webmin see whats avail
[01:35] <darx> yup
[01:36] <soundray> nikosgr: that's the wrong way round
[01:36] <ic56> darx: in bash, type:  >file
[01:36] <nikosgr> why?
[01:36] <Ali> soundray: 2.6.15
[01:36] <nikosgr> i just want the conf file to be named as iam sude too
[01:36] <nikosgr> httpd.conf not like this
[01:36] <soundray> nikosgr: ln -sf linkedfile softlink
[01:36] <darx> ic56: thanks
[01:37] <EnUm> soundtray:can i also use avidemux to convert avi to mpeg2?i selected there the option auto-dvd
[01:37] <nikosgr> a yes
[01:37] <EnUm> now it is converting
[01:37] <darx> ic56: i didn't follow your private message to me
[01:37] <nikosgr> the other way around my mistake
[01:37] <nikosgr> i wlasy do this msitake when ti comes to ln
[01:37] <soundray> EnUm: I don't know the specific answer to the problem, just noticed that this article might be relevant to you.
[01:37] <ic56> darx: you're welcome
[01:37] <darx> okies
[01:38] <darx> i'm a noob
[01:40] <edu> i have a question, maybe a stupid question
[01:40] <EnUm> soundtray:ok,thank you
[01:40] <soundray> !ask
[01:40] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[01:40] <Acidic> edu, you may get a stupid answer :) :P
[01:41] <nikosgr> wait am inute
[01:41] <nikosgr> are you sure tha default is the same as httpdc.conf used to be ?
[01:41] <edu> why kubuntu hasn't got free ship, like ubuntu? i think kde rocks ^^
[01:41] <ProN00b> how can i get the current development release ?
[01:41] <nikosgr> its very small
[01:41] <Riddell> edu: it will do
[01:41] <Acidic> noiesmo, you still there?
[01:41] <noiesmo> Acidic, yes
[01:42] <edu> really?
[01:42] <Acidic> noiesmo, that worked... apparently the apt-get stuff is screwerd
[01:42] <edu> i would love to try kubuntu dapper
[01:42] <noiesmo> Acidic, cool
[01:42] <nikosgr> are you sure the default is the same as httpd.conf used to be ?
[01:42] <edu> but i have a 56k connection, you know :-P
[01:42] <noiesmo> Acidic, have installed via apt on debian must ubuntu packages
[01:42] <noiesmo> Acidic, well at least its working
[01:42] <Acidic> yea
[01:43] <Acidic> "First of all, and most important... DON'T use the webmin from apt-get or Synaptic. These are older files, and they will require 'root' as the login."
[01:43] <kremsner> Hy @ all
[01:43] <kremsner> question
[01:43] <kremsner> I got a *.deb package....
[01:43] <xerophyte> with apt-cache search how can i only search apple not applet ??
[01:43] <kremsner> how can I install it?
[01:43] <soundray> !enter
[01:43] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[01:43] <Acidic> lawl
[01:43] <noiesmo> ;)
[01:44] <soundray> xerophyte, try "apple "
[01:44] <edu> have you ever tried xgl? it must be cool, I guess
[01:44] <orbin> kremsner: what is it?
[01:44] <kremsner> alacarte 0.8
[01:44] <orbin> !dpkg
[01:44] <noiesmo> Acidic, the root things not that big a deal you can make a user after first logon aanyway
[01:44] <kremsner> thx
[01:44] <Acidic> noiesmo, yea.. but there may be more problems with more recent stuff :/
[01:44] <orbin> !deb
[01:44] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[01:45] <noiesmo> Acidic, true true
[01:45] <edu> oh yeah
[01:45] <xerophyte> soundray, thx
[01:45] <nikosgr> dpkg -i also wont inclde dependencies
[01:45] <Acidic> noiesmo, i was trying to get a snort module running on it, (that was kinda the whole point of getting webmin) and that seems to have a problem installing from apt-get also (prolly now since i didn't get webmin from apt)
[01:46] <sparklink> hi guys
[01:46] <kremsner> k thnx.... but it didn't helped *g*... how can I edit the Places?
[01:46] <noiesmo> Acidic, yeah prob you'll have to download module from webmin then install
[01:47] <Acidic> noiesmo, they don't have snort on their site.. and the only place i can find it has a broken link
[01:47] <Acidic> noiesmo, Q Q
[01:48] <kremsner> anyone? in the TopBar there are Application Places and System.... how to edit the Places?
[01:48] <knanand> Hello everybody!!
[01:48] <nikosgr> how do i copy paste fiels in  ubuntu?
[01:49] <nikosgr> why ctrl-c and ctrl-v wont work?
[01:49] <dli> nikosgr, right click :)
[01:49] <knanand> Can ny 1 sugest a Download Manager?
[01:49] <nikosgr> i cant drag and drop with rightclick
[01:50] <nikosgr> it open properties panel
[01:50] <edu> maybe beacuse it has different key codes
[01:50] <ben_underscore> nikosgr, just select them in nautilus and copy them then paste into the directory of your choice
[01:50] <ben_underscore> nikosgr, or in terminal use the "cp" command
[01:50] <kremsner> anyone? in the TopBar there are Application Places and System.... how to edit the Places?
[01:50] <nikosgr> yes
[01:50] <`Acidic> noiesmo, pm?
[01:50] <nikosgr> iam tryuign to do wit with file browser
[01:51] <nikosgr> but ic ant
[01:51] <noiesmo> np
[01:51] <MenZa> kremsner: open nautilus and drag a folder into the sidebar
[01:51] <nikosgr> and it alsl tells em i dont have properties for that
[01:51] <sparklink> i've a problem: in this pc the optical drive is not connected in the seconday master of tha main boad but is connected to a controller ide pci (silicon image chipset is natively supported by kernel), i set as first boot device in bios SCSI then i reboot...but after reboot i obtain an error like ISOLINUX FAILED ETC...do you know how i can install ubuntu with my optical drive also if is not connected directly to the mainboard?
[01:51] <nikosgr> on cmd i can switch to root
[01:51] <kremsner> MenZa it didn't work this way
[01:51] <MenZa> kremsner: It does for me.
[01:51] <kremsner> hmmmm....
[01:51] <nikosgr> but on gui how will i notify the sytem that i want to copy file as root
[01:51] <nikosgr> sixcne ima loggen in as nikos?
[01:51] <MenZa> nikosgr: sudo nautilus ;)
[01:52] <MenZa> nikosgr: but using the terminal is preferably
[01:52] <MenZa> prefferable*
[01:52] <nikosgr> ok but why file broswer isnt any good?
[01:52] <MenZa> Argh
[01:52] <MenZa> Preferrable*
[01:52] <MenZa> nikosgr: you risk breaking things
[01:52] <knanand> Is der a Download Manager for that i can use? I need to download a large file Plz :(
[01:52] <kremsner> MenZa does I have to be root?
[01:52] <soundray> MenZa: preferable ;)
[01:52] <edu> bye
[01:52] <MenZa> kremsner: use wget
[01:52] <nikosgr> root@dell:~# sudo nautilus
[01:52] <nikosgr> (nautilus:6524): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open displa
[01:52] <MenZa> kremsner: nope.
[01:52] <MenZa> nikosgr: it should open anyway
[01:52] <MenZa> soundray: thank you, my English is rubbish on a Sunday afternoon :P
[01:53] <Dark-Night> Should i install the latest drivers for my GPU and chipset?
[01:53] <MenZa> Dark-Night: whenever possible, keep everything updated :)
[01:53] <Dark-Night> ok thanks :D
[01:53] <kronoz> !glxgears
[01:53] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[01:53] <nikosgr> weill it aint open
[01:53] <delta> uh
[01:53] <nikosgr> damn how cna i make a copy from gui?
[01:53] <MenZa> nikosgr: the easiest thing would to just use the cp command :p
[01:53] <orbin> knanand: d4x if you want a gui
[01:53] <patrizia> Hello everybody
[01:53] <nikosgr> MenZa,  ok
[01:54] <bsch> hello, everybody
[01:54] <patrizia> I'm trying to burn an audio cd from mp3s on breezy
[01:54] <nikosgr> cp -R for also copying subdirzs?
[01:54] <knanand> orbin :wer can i get dat
[01:54] <MenZa> lo bsch
[01:54] <MenZa> nikosgr: umm, try cp --help
[01:54] <patrizia> What packages do I need to get that working?
[01:54] <bsch> Is chinese here?
[01:54] <orbin> knanand: it's in the universe repository
[01:54] <immolo> patrizia, k3b with the k3bmp3 plugin
[01:54] <MenZa> patrizia: I think k3b does that
[01:54] <MenZa> !ch
[01:54] <ubotu> MenZa: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:54] <MenZa> ;\
[01:54] <orbin> !zn
[01:54] <ubotu> orbin: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:54] <nikosgr> root@dell:~# cp -R /home/nikos/Desktop/www/* /var/www/
[01:54] <MenZa> !chinese
[01:54] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MenZa
[01:54] <nikosgr> thsi workd fine :)
[01:54] <orbin> !zh
[01:54] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.
[01:55] <patrizia> immolo: Ok. I'll try that. Alltough I don't want to install all the kde libs... :)
[01:55] <bsch> MenZa, are you chinese?
[01:55] <MenZa> bsch: nope ;p
[01:55] <patrizia> immolo: Is there any possibility to burn mp3s with gnomebaker?
[01:55] <bsch> my Emacs cound'n not display Chinese font
[01:55] <immolo> patrizia, k3b is the best burner for linux it's worth the 100mb for kdelibs
[01:55] <bsch> maybe the X trouble
[01:55] <patrizia> immolo: ok ;)
[01:55] <immolo> patrizia, maybe but gnomebaker sucks
[01:56] <immolo> you can do more with the windows buner :P
[01:56] <dli> immolo, I use k3b, ksnapshot, kstars, but I install the whole kde for 3 programs
[01:56] <patrizia> dli: Hm. So I guess i'll have to install the kde libs ;)
[01:56] <bsch> ft
[01:56] <immolo> dli, why? kdelibs isn't the whole of kde
[01:57] <ProN00b> patrizia, you might try serpentine
[01:57] <knanand> orbin : thankx :)
[01:57] <patrizia> ProN00b: Ok
[01:57] <nikosgr> guys why is the htttpd.conf file spo different that in 2.0.54 ?
[01:58] <bsch> what the engine of display  for Emacs?
[01:58] <Quan-Time> whats a linux RAR handler ? as i cant seem to open .rar - .r09
[01:58] <bimberi> nikosgr: #apache
[01:58] <patrizia> immolo: Still get the error: Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
[01:58] <nikosgr> iam there
[01:58] <nikosgr> thay dotn care to answer
[01:58] <bimberi> !rar
[01:58] <ubotu> rar is probably a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:58] <Alex_BO2> HELLO!I've a problem with cups... how can i allow an IP address of my private LAN to connect to Cups' website (port 631)? I can reach it only from localhost:631
[01:58] <bimberi> !find rar
[01:58] <Quan-Time> bimberi, cheers :)
[01:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'rar' (11 shown): guile-library ;; libdata-hierarchy-perl ;; lush-library ;; musiclibrarian ;; partlibrary ;; rar ;; rarpd ;; sdcc-libraries ;; unrar-free ;; unrar-nonfree ;; xml-resume-library.
[01:58] <orbin> bsch: have you asked in #emacs?
[01:58] <immolo> patrizia, you apt-get the mp3 plugin
[01:58] <bsch> Quan-Time, you could down rar for linux
[01:59] <immolo> should be callled k3bmp3
[01:59] <bsch> Ok
[01:59] <knanand> orbin: do you know the how to see my ipaddress in (like ipconfig)
[01:59] <bsch> thanks
[01:59] <patrizia> immolo: Did so "Richte k3b-mp3 ein (0.12.2-0ubuntu2)"
[01:59] <bimberi> Quan-Time: np :)
[01:59] <immolo> and you restarted k3b?
[01:59] <orbin> knanand: ifconfig
[01:59] <patrizia> immolo: Yes, I did
[01:59] <immolo> check the settings to see if it's active
[01:59] <patrizia> immolo: Tryin it again...
[02:00] <Quan-Time> unrar ;) simple
[02:01] <patrizia> immolo: Should be under plugins, shouldn't it?
[02:01] <knanand> orbin: ok! thankx
[02:01] <knanand> bye
[02:01] <patrizia> immolo: There are several. But no mp3 :/
[02:01] <immolo> patrizia, just checking my k3b
[02:02] <knoppix> i've got a /dev/hdb1 free and a /dev/hdb2 with my root linux partition, why can't i expand my /dev/hdb2 with qparted ?
[02:02] <creatureofSpace> q
[02:02] <bsch> how did i know the X using the chinese font or not for Emacs?
[02:02] <nikosgr> someone please that want to help em with apache?
[02:03] <immolo> patrizia, mine isn't under plugins but it does just work
[02:03] <orbin> bsch: have you asked in #emacs?
[02:03] <knanand> hi again
[02:03] <_jason> nikosgr: it's best to just state your problem or question, then someone will help if they know how
[02:03] <nikosgr> ok
[02:03] <nikosgr> and iam just tryign to find the httpd.conf file i was used to
[02:03] <patrizia> immolo: hm. i'll try it by restarting gnome
[02:03] <_jason> nikosgr: are you using apache2 from the repositories?
[02:03] <nikosgr> neither httpd.conf neither fefault file in sites directorie looks like a normal file
[02:03] <nikosgr> jason no
[02:04] <creatureofSpace>       ?
[02:04] <_jason> nikosgr: what are you using then?
[02:04] <Quan-Time> hmm... unrar not as easy as i 1st thought
[02:04] <nikosgr> i installed it from the officila apacxhe site half an hour ago
[02:04] <knanand> orbin: i wud b happy if you cud help me in 1 more probs..
[02:04] <soundray> nikosgr: how about /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[02:04] <fishscience> gcc is not the default install options?
[02:04] <nikosgr> that what i also though
[02:04] <nikosgr> but this doese look a normal apache file
[02:04] <orbin> knanand: shoot
[02:04] <_jason> fishscience: build-essential package will give you gcc
[02:05] <fishscience> 3x
[02:05] <nikosgr> wait
[02:05] <nikosgr> yes this is it!
[02:05] <nikosgr> youa re right
[02:05] <nikosgr> so httpd.conf is now called apache2.conf ?
[02:05] <_jason> nikosgr: yes, the comments in httpd.conf /should/ explain
[02:05] <nikosgr> ok
[02:05] <Quan-Time> bimberi, i cant seem to find / install unrar-nonfree via synaptic,, is it installed via apt-get ? (i have all the respositories, i think) im on dapper
[02:05] <nikosgr> iam also put my website in /var/www/
[02:06] <_jason> Quan-Time: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions please
[02:06] <soundray> Quan-Time: it's just called unrar now
[02:06] <knanand> orbin: Recently i changed my NTFS partitions to FAT32 i had problems mounting it, somehow i cud do that but now i cannot change permisions for the files is it not possible to do that all files have attr "777" can i change it
[02:07] <patrizia> immolo: After restarting gnome, it worked
[02:07] <patrizia> immolo: Thanks for your help
[02:07] <immolo> patrizia, no problem, enjoy
[02:07] <bimberi> Quan-Time: soundray has it :)
[02:08] <Quan-Time> soundray, i only see unrar-free in synaptic
[02:08] <soundray> knanand: use umask=0000 under options in fstab
[02:08] <Quan-Time> which is installed
[02:08] <orbin> knanand: ntfs is readonly, whereas fat32 is rw.  did you change the mount permissions?  check out this oage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:08] <soundray> Quan-Time: you need multiverse enabled. Done that?
[02:08] <anm81> hola
[02:08] <nikosgr> is it ok to place my website in /var/www ?
[02:09] <_jason> nikosgr: yes
[02:09] <creatureofSpace> hello! here be present russian?
[02:09] <Quan-Time> i thought i had.. obviously not.. ill look into that now. cheers
[02:09] <nikosgr> ot should i place it in another place?
[02:09] <_jason> !ru
[02:09] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[02:09] <nikosgr> ok
[02:09] <nikosgr> i also have some cgi-bin/*.pl files
[02:09] <anm81> algn espaol?
[02:09] <_jason> !es
[02:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:09] <nikosgr> and my index.html points to index.pl
[02:09] <knanand> orbin: this is what my fstab entry looks like: "/dev/hda6 /media/hda6 vfat rw,users,defaults,fmask=0000,dmask=0000,uid=0000,gid=0000 0 0"
[02:09] <nikosgr> is it ok to have cgi0bin dir also there?
[02:09] <simplydazed> is squidGuard needed to get user based reports via sarg?
[02:10] <nikosgr> i must change ServerRoot "/etc/apache2" to ServerRoot "var/www/" ??
[02:10] <_jason> nikosgr: since you installed from apache's site and not from the repos I'm not really sure about that
[02:10] <soundray> knanand, looks all right.
[02:11] <nikosgr> it must be the smae
[02:11] <nikosgr> why would it be any different?
[02:11] <tolan> can anyone tell me where i could find a copy of the last revision of nvidia-glx?
[02:11] <creatureofSpace> where is find speak russian?
[02:11] <roryy> !ru
[02:11] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[02:11] <knanand> soundray: but my permissions is "777" can i change it
[02:12] <dli> tolan, the one in breezy failed?
[02:12] <soundray> knanand: what do you want them to be?
[02:12] <ygetartson> hi all
[02:12] <tolan> it's dapper actually
[02:12] <tolan> should i goto +1?
[02:12] <delta> Excuse me, someone "working" with/for the ubuntu-shop?
[02:12] <ygetartson> I have a "Where was that again?" question.
[02:12] <tolan> i need 8178 drivers as the latest have problems with cgl
[02:12] <tolan> xgl
[02:13] <creatureofSpace> roryy: thank you very much :)
[02:13] <soundray> ygetartson: those are banned here!
[02:13] <Quan-Time> how can i change file associations.. .avi to play in VLC instead of TOTEM by default ?
[02:13] <soundray> ygetartson: just kiddin'
[02:13] <roryy> creatureofSpace: no problem
[02:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell Quan-Time about defaultapp
[02:13] <knanand> soundray: 744
[02:13] <roryy> delta: maybe you want http://www.ubuntu.com ? what are you looking for ?
[02:13] <ygetartson> where was the file where to define keycode-to-keysym mappings?
[02:13] <ic56> knanand: FAT32 filesystems don't have permissions per-file.  So it makes sense that ls displays 777.
[02:14] <delta> roryy, I've a stupid question about an article on the shop.
[02:14] <Howitzer> It's funny, i've given up on linux with every distro, then i crawl back to Ubuntu again and all is fine
[02:14] <dli> ic56, fat doesn't have any permission, right?
[02:14] <roryy> delta: what shop is that?
[02:14] <Quan-Time> _jason, mucho thanx
[02:14] <soundray> knanand: try umask=0033
[02:14] <Howitzer> Arch Linux, Slackware, Red Hat, Fedora, Debian, Zenwalk
[02:14] <Quan-Time> on that note, bed time.. cheers for the help everyone. you rock !
[02:15] <Howitzer> All of 'm suck imho
[02:15] <delta> roryy, http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop/
[02:15] <soundray> ic56: but you can still change them globally, can't you?
[02:15] <lastnode> Howitzer, general chatter goes in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[02:15] <Howitzer> meh
[02:15] <Howitzer> this is Ubuntu prime news!
[02:15] <knanand> soundray what does that mean?
[02:15] <Howitzer> I will not be pushed to offtopic!
[02:16] <leggy> how can i install the package with full kernel sources for my distribution?
[02:16] <ic56> soundray: I suppose you can but what would be the point?
[02:16] <ProN00b> oh noes mozilla somehow got my default browser, how do i change it back to firefox ?
[02:16] <soundray> ic56: I don't know, I'm just trying to tell knanand how to do it, because he wants it.
[02:16] <roryy> delta: sorry, i don't know who is responsible for that, or anything about it. looks pretty cool, though.
[02:16] <_jason> ProN00b: system > preferences > preferred applications
[02:16] <dli> leggy,  I think it's called linux-source
[02:16] <lastnode> leggy, apt-cache search kernel sources
[02:17] <soundray> ic56: I suppose it can make sense to restrict access to a file system.
[02:17] <delta> roryy, I agree :)
[02:17] <nikosgr> how do i restart apache?
[02:17] <Dark-Night> Im getting a Hat!
[02:17] <nikosgr> apache2 -k restart?
[02:18] <knanand> ok, ill try..
[02:18] <leggy> i want to install alsa 1.0.11rc5! but when i use ./configure he stopps with the message: The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist.
[02:18] <leggy> Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[02:18] <leggy> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[02:18] <leggy> sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[02:18] <dli> nikosgr, /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[02:18] <ic56> soundary: I think is confused.  Previously he had an NTFS filesystem, and those do have permissions similar to unix filesystems and so ls displays interesting information.  Now he's switched to FAT32 and thinks something is wrong because the ls output doesn't vary from one file to the next.
[02:18] <stevietool> someone familiar with wireless failures?
[02:18] <ic56> soundray: I meant knanand is confused
[02:18] <nikosgr> dli,  thnk but what i told also worked fine
[02:19] <dli> stevietool, just ask :(
[02:19] <doms> monitor wireless
[02:19] <lastnode> leggy, you need linux-source, iirc
[02:19] <nikosgr> it seems is alreasy in path
[02:19] <lastnode> stevietool, relatively, but er, just ask?
[02:19] <lastnode> :)
[02:19] <lastnode> !ask
[02:19] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[02:19] <leggy> apt-get linux-source?
[02:19] <creatureofSpace> roryy: in #ubuntu-ru nobody speak
[02:19] <soundray> ic56: I see
[02:19] <ProN00b> _jason, uhm, can you tell me the binary name of that preferred applications chooser ?
[02:19] <nikosgr> iam gettting this
[02:19] <nikosgr> The requested URL /cgi-bin/index.pl was not found on this server.
[02:19] <lastnode> leggy, like i said earlier apt-cache search kernel sources
[02:19] <stevietool> ipw2200:failed to send wep_key command ??
[02:19] <benoitc> hi
[02:20] <nikosgr> but why the folder cgi-bn is on place allright
[02:20] <lastnode> stevietool, ooh, my chipset! :) when does this happen?
[02:20] <benoitc> anyone here ave an apple pro keyboard ?
[02:20] <roryy> leggy: please don't paste again, and you probably want linux-headers-386 (or possibly -686 or something else)
[02:20] <leggy> lastnode:  i did it already
[02:20] <benoitc> would like to configure it on my pc
[02:20] <_jason> ProN00b: gnome-default-applications-properties (but I am in dapper so if it doesn't work please ask again)
[02:20] <lastnode> leggy, so what did you get?
[02:20] <benoitc> afrench apple pro keyboard
[02:20] <lastnode> what packages, leggy ?
[02:20] <Eftarjin> hi
[02:20] <lastnode> hello Eftarjin
[02:21] <stevietool> lastnode: maybe with some apt-get upgrade I think, I has worked,
[02:21] <roryy> creatureofSpace: hmm. Well, you can try english here; do you speak any other languages?
[02:21] <leggy> lastnode: a lot things
[02:21] <ProN00b> was it, thanks, _jason
[02:21] <lastnode> stevietool, breezy or dapper?
[02:22] <lastnode> leggy, well like roryy said, it's probably linux-headers-386 (or 686)
[02:22] <stevietool> lastnode: breezy serverinstall with xfce4
[02:22] <orbin>  any way to get apt-get to list upgradeable packages?
[02:22] <lastnode> stevietool, so after the last apt-get upgrade it b0rked?
[02:22] <leggy> linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[02:22] <lastnode> orbin, your update widget should tell you that
[02:22] <lastnode> gui widget, in system tray
[02:23] <roryy> orbin: and an easy cli answer is to run 'sudo aptitude' with no arguments.  Should give a list of upgradeable packages at the top
[02:23] <soundray> orbin: apt-get -us upgrade
[02:23] <leggy> sry...i'm a linux newbie :\
[02:23] <nikosgr> how i tell ubuntu to start gami at boot time?
[02:23] <lastnode> leggy, try apt-get linux-sources
[02:23] <nikosgr> gaim i mean
[02:24] <orbin> lastnode: widget as in update-mgr? thanks but no thanks
[02:24] <dli> leggy, sudo apt-get install linux-sources
[02:24] <roryy> nikosgr: system -> preferences -> sessions, startup programs
[02:24] <lastnode> nikosgr, when you boot in to your wm? both gnome and kde have that option, o think
[02:24] <ompaul> nikosgr, system preferences sessions has a tab for starup
[02:24] <stevietool> lastnode: I'm not really sure...after a fresh install where my wired-eth was the primary...I added my config of my wireless ...that worked for weeks
[02:24] <lastnode> *i
[02:24] <nikosgr> from console?
[02:24] <lastnode> steveb, what does iwconfig -a give you?
[02:24] <ompaul> nikosgr, no gaim is graphic and so is that method
[02:24] <steveb> lastnode: huh?
[02:24] <Eftarjin> i'm trying to build a kernel with the "Realtime-Preemtion" patch (as explained here : http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Dapper:Vanilla_Kernel_With_Realtime_Preemption ) but i've an error while compiling (about a missing reference to "debug_check_no_locks_freed")
[02:24] <Eftarjin> can I solve this ?
[02:24] <nikosgr> i see
[02:25] <lastnode> steveb, sorry, bad nick completion
[02:25] <lastnode> :)
[02:25] <nikosgr> the executable of gaim is in /usr/bin ?
[02:25] <leggy> he couldnt find linux-sources
[02:25] <orbin> roryy: thanksthanks soundray
[02:25] <steveb> ah
[02:25] <dli> leggy, sudo apt-get install linux-source , sorry for the wrong line :(
[02:25] <lastnode> stevietool, what does iwconfig - agive you?
[02:25] <steveb> stab the tab
[02:25] <zool2005> do many people use voip on linux?
[02:25] <lastnode> leggy, sorry for the s at the end
[02:25] <soundray> zool2005: how much is many?
[02:25] <lastnode> zool2005, ive used skype
[02:25] <dli> leggy, anyway, learn to use "apt-cache search linux-source"
[02:25] <Giorno> This channel seems to be moving at a million miles per hour and I have a very noobish question, how do I install Flash Player on ubuntu?
[02:25] <lastnode> ubotu, tell Giorno about flash
[02:26] <ompaul> nikosgr, gaim is /usr/bin/gaim
[02:26] <zool2005> i use skype but its a bit buggy somtimes, does anyone use anything else?
[02:26] <lastnode> Giorno, check your pm :)
[02:26] <simonpca> plop
[02:26] <dli> zool2005, ekiga
[02:26] <ubuntu> ,llklkk
[02:26] <soundray> ubuntu: test worked
[02:26] <ubuntu> zes
[02:27] <Eftarjin> Giorno: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28formats%29%7C%28restricted%29#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[02:27] <ubuntu> yes
[02:27] <zool2005> dli, what's it like?
[02:27] <stevietool> lastnode:he gives my essid, key...radio off; link quality 0, channel 0...
[02:27] <soundray> Eftarjin: posting the URL up to the question mark is sufficient.
[02:27] <steveb> stevietool: do you have a button for turning wifi on and off?
[02:27] <leggy> now i have to install linux-source-2.6.12?!
[02:27] <lastnode> stevietool, no gui i assume? so where exactly does it fail?
[02:28] <doms> what is blimp
[02:28] <creatureofSpace> bay
[02:28] <Giorno> thanks lastnode
[02:28] <steveb> an RF kill switch i think its called
[02:28] <lastnode> leggy, the appended number is your kernel number
[02:28] <leggy> yes i think so
[02:28] <lastnode> er not think so leggy , it is :)
[02:29] <lastnode> do a uname -r, and you should see that
[02:30] <stevietool> lastnode: my wireless works, config is ok, I just give ifup eth1 in and he says that he cant send my web_key
[02:30] <leggy> yes...but for what do i need it? i want to install alsa 1.0.11
[02:30] <leggy> and maybe i need the linux source...
[02:30] <doms> what is blimp
[02:30] <tech> humm... im totely new to this but aint it more easy to just dobble click on a install file than going in to terminal and write a hole much things :P ?
[02:30] <leggy> because he doesnt find it while installing alsa
[02:31] <stevietool> lastnode: message: ipw2200 failed to send web_key command...have no idea
[02:31] <orbin> tech: heard of synaptic?
[02:32] <tech> im not good in english but what is synaptic+
[02:32] <tech> ?
[02:32] <beta_m> tech:  synaptic package manager
[02:32] <tech> where do i get that?
[02:32] <orbin> tech: sys > admin > synaptic
[02:32] <tech> thanks
[02:33] <orbin> tech: installing stuff manually is usually for specialised cases.  usually you can find what you need in there
[02:33] <orbin> ubotu: tell tech about synaptic
[02:33] <orbin> ubotu: tell tech about repos
[02:33] <tech> orbin: okey thanks =) but i have firefox in english here and I want it in norwegian. how do I upgrade it to norwegian?
[02:34] <orbin> tech: dunno. i only speak english so have never had to convert apps...i think it's something to do w/ localisation (or something)
[02:34] <soundray> tech: install the package mozilla-firefox-locale-nb-no through synaptic
[02:35] <orbin> tech: there you go :)
[02:35] <tech> soundray: thanks gonna try =)
[02:35] <nono> join #ubuntu-fr
[02:36] <orbin> bruinm: ooi, what was the point of that?
[02:37] <xeiter> hi how do add a second language in Ubuntu and make it change between languages with Ctrl + Shift?
[02:37] <expat> Anyone have any experience with Kubuntu as a virtual machine on VMWare?
[02:37] <bsch> yes~~
[02:37] <tech> orbin: okey i found it but how tha h*** do i install it? :P hehe
[02:37] <bsch> i use VMWare in XP
[02:37] <dli> xeiter, sudo apt-get install scim
[02:38] <yereth> hi girls
[02:38] <xeiter> dli: thanks
[02:38] <yereth> anyone know what happened to my repository?:
[02:38] <yereth> Err http://no.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Sources
[02:38] <yereth>   404 Not Found [IP: 129.241.93.37 80] 
[02:38] <yereth> for example
[02:38] <dli> xeiter, sudo apt-cache search scim|less , find your language, and install the package also
[02:38] <Howitzer> Does anybody know of any Ubuntu news sites?
[02:38] <orbin> tech: did you see the synaptic howo page ubotu sent you?
[02:38] <expat> bsch: I'm having trouble installing vmware tools.
[02:38] <orbin> tech: right-click > mark for install ... then click on apply at the top
[02:38] <bsch> what's trouble?
[02:38] <dli> xeiter, you may have to choose your language before login in gdm
[02:39] <bsch> yes
[02:39] <bsch> the guess OS, which OS?
[02:39] <tech> orbin: thanks I made ity work GOD bless linux :D
[02:39] <expat> bsch: XP
[02:39] <orbin> tech: firefox is in norwegian now?
[02:39] <yereth> people, why can't I access the no.archive.ubuntu.com repository?
[02:39] <bsch> what's trouble?
[02:39] <tech> orbin: yes ;)
[02:40] <orbin> Howitzer: ubuntu.com/news
[02:40] <xeiter> dli: thanks man    working on it now
[02:40] <bsch> i'm install XP in VMWare have not any trouble?
[02:40] <creatureofSpace> !ru
[02:40] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[02:40] <maswan> yereth: do you have a non-working ipv6 setup?
[02:40] <Howitzer> ty
[02:40] <Howitzer> oh
[02:40] <yereth> maswan: no idea.. why?
[02:40] <bsch> the guest OS is XP, and the HOST OS is XP
[02:40] <Howitzer> but i mean like a community-driven newssite
[02:40] <expat> bsch: it says it can't find the correct vrrhgfs module to run the kernel.
[02:41] <stevietool> lastnode-afk: any ideas?
[02:41] <maswan> yereth: Well, I can access it fine. But it also resolves with a v6 adress. Which is no problem if you either don't run ipv6 at all, or if you have a working ipv6 setup. If you have a non-working setup it might cause breakage, I think.
[02:41] <expat> Oops: The host is XP, the guest is Kubuntu.
[02:41] <ocult> hello
[02:41] <yereth> maswan: so any suggestions?
[02:41] <ocult> after install vnc server .. need configure something ?
[02:41] <yereth> last week I could still do my updates
[02:42] <ccc_> Howitzer: http://fridge.ubuntu.com (community news) http://planet.ubuntu.com (dev blogs)
[02:42] <maswan> yereth: what is the error message?
[02:42] <Azertyuuu> hey all, i want to create a new partition beside ubuntu, do i have to defragmentate just like in windows
[02:42] <bsch> expat: i don't know what's trouble with you
[02:42] <orbin> Howitzer: the forum maybe?  dunno.
[02:42] <Fujitsu> No, Azertyuuu.
[02:42] <yereth> maswan: hold on.. will put it in pastebin
[02:42] <Howitzer> ty ccc_  :-)
[02:42] <expat> bsch: thanks anyway
[02:43] <orbin> ccc_: ah, sweet links
[02:43] <orbin> Azertyuuu: depends on what FS you make the partition
[02:43] <bsch> expat, are you chinese?
[02:43] <Azertyuuu> and i think to format it as FAT32, than it is possible to write on it in MS and Linux right ?
[02:43] <expat> bsch: no, I'm American, but living in Thailand.
[02:43] <fishscience> bsch, you are chinese ?
[02:44] <orbin> Azertyuuu: yes, fat32 has rw support
[02:44] <bsch> fishscience, yes i'm chinese
[02:44] <ocult> hello
[02:44] <ocult> somebody here have vnc server ?
[02:44] <yereth> maswan: http://pastebin.com/690208
[02:44] <bsch> expat, what's HOST OS?
[02:44] <yereth> sources.list + output of apt-get update
[02:44] <fishscience> bschso am i
[02:44] <expat> bsch: XP
[02:44] <bsch> ^:^
[02:45] <sHaDe> Melandri c'
[02:45] <maswan> yereth: ok, so no clue from me there.
[02:45] <fishscience> I am first time here  :)
[02:45] <maswan> yereth: sorry, I don't know
[02:45] <bsch> HOST OS is XP, and GUESS OS is XP also?
[02:45] <soundray> ocult, do you have a support query or is this a survey?
[02:45] <yereth> ... :(
[02:45] <Azertyuuu> orbin: do you know a good prog to partionionate in KDE
[02:45] <expat> bsch: No, I misspoke. The guest is Kubuntu.
[02:45] <yereth> anyone else who knows what's up with ubuntu repository?
[02:45] <soundray> Azertyuuu: qtparted
[02:45] <lastnode-afk> yereth, try another repo
[02:46] <yereth> maswan: thanx for your time :)
[02:46] <merio> hello
[02:46] <yereth> lastnode-afk: do you have one? Or a website to find a local up-to-date repository?
[02:46] <bsch> your mean your are use XP, and install VMWare in XP, and want to install Kubuntu into VMware?
[02:46] <bsch> ??
[02:46] <lastnode-afk> yereth, try lk.
[02:46] <Dark-Night> http://skype.com/download/skype/linux/ which one of them should i download?
[02:46] <yereth> lk?
[02:47] <soundray> Dark-Night: better get skype through easyubuntu
[02:47] <expat> bsch: Yes, exactly.
[02:47] <soundray> !easyubuntu
[02:47] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[02:47] <ocult> soundray, i wanna use vnc here..
[02:47] <luisito> in the upgrade to dapper the login.defs file should be replaced with the new version?
[02:47] <ocult> soundray, after install vnc server. need configure something ?
[02:47] <fishscience> bsch: where are you from?
[02:47] <BSCH> in fact, you maybe not install VMWare tools
[02:48] <benoitc> mmm how toonfigure a french apple pro keyboard for X & console?
[02:48] <Dark-Night> what is easyubuntu?
[02:48] <BSCH> Henan ~~
[02:48] <soundray> ocult: are you on Ubuntu?
[02:48] <benoitc> s/tonfigure/to configure/
[02:48] <_jason> luisito: backup your old one and use the newer version is what I would recommend.  After the upgrade is over take a look at the differences using the 'diff' command
[02:48] <Azertyuuu> if i select the linux partitiion, i can choose from "property, format, delete and set active" . Which one do i have to choose to make a new part.
[02:48] <raptros-v76> !tell Dark-Night about easyubuntu
[02:48] <ocult> soundray, yes
[02:48] <BSCH> if the guess OS is linux, i always not to intall VMware~
[02:48] <creatureofSpace> !help
[02:48] <expat> bsch: You're saying it's not possible?
[02:48] <orbin> ubotu: tell yereth about sources
[02:48] <BSCH> YES, if GUESS OS is linux
[02:49] <orbin> yereth: there's also #ubuntu+1 for dapper issues
[02:49] <xeiter> is there any way to check if a program is already installed in Ubuntu ? for example i want to get apache and mysql...... how can I check whather i have apache and mysql already sintalled but they are just not turned on
[02:49] <BSCH> but if the guess os is MS OS, it's possible
[02:49] <dli> isn't ubuntu easy enough?
[02:49] <merio> i have a geforce256 and i want to install the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com for it. the driver version is 7174; it complains that i'm using gcc4.0 and not 3.4 as im supposed to. how can i make the installer use gcc-3.4 (which i got from apt-get install gcc-3.4)....?
[02:49] <yereth> bless you orbin
[02:49] <soundray> xeiter, dpkg -l
[02:49] <dli> merio, read the ubuntu nvidia howto
[02:49] <gfxstyler> hi
[02:49] <bakert> hi
[02:49] <BSCH> if you not install VMWare tools, it not have display driver and not have other driver
[02:50] <dj-fu> GCC_VERSION or something like that. I forget.
[02:50] <gfxstyler> how can i mount a specific partition so that it has certain user rights ?
[02:50] <Azertyuuu> orbin:  i can't resize the ext3 part
[02:50] <xeiter> soundray: thanks man
[02:50] <bakert> gfxstyle: to do with umask,dmask settings???  (i dont really know)
[02:50] <gfxstyler> i mounted an ext3 partition to /data and i can even write/read from it as user, but i cant run any apps from that one
[02:50] <BSCH> if the guess OS is Linux, the Linux support VMware simulate hardware~
[02:50] <soundray> gfxstyler: you don't. You set access rights per file/directory
[02:50] <orbin> Azertyuuu: i'm deferring to soundray. i've never use qtparted
[02:51] <gfxstyler> soundray: the problem is: i cant compile anything on that partition, and i cant run any app too
[02:51] <FabParmaITA> sorry, i downloaded Ubuntu and installed, but unfortunetelly was a "live version". where can i find the installing Ubuntu version, thank you
[02:51] <gfxstyler> but if i copy it to the root partition, its working
[02:51] <Chri[s] > hrm
[02:51] <soundray> gfxstyler: have you mounted it with the noexec option?
[02:51] <gfxstyler> soundray: no, i think i mounted it with noatime,users
[02:52] <orbin> FabParmaITA: get the install cd off the website
[02:52] <gnomefreak> FabParmaITA: what version of ubuntu did you get?
[02:52] <crisen__> can i install the basesystem via http/ftp apt-get with the normal install cd?
[02:53] <gfxstyler> soundray: example: make: execvp: ./bin/app: Permission denied
[02:53] <FabParmaITA> gnomefreak: 5.10
[02:53] <crisen__> ive burnt an install cd, though the cd is scratched and is having problems completing the baseinstall
[02:53] <soundray> gfxstyler: try chmod -R u+rwx /data/dir-with-sources ; then try again
[02:54] <FabParmaITA> Ubunto is only live cd or there is an installing version?  thank you
[02:54] <bakert> FabParmaITA: there is an installing version too
[02:54] <Curtman> Why is creating a deb such a royal pain in the butt?  Isn't there an easy way if I want to just make a deb for a newer version of some already existing deb?  (the graphviz deb in dapper is disgustingly old BTW)
[02:54] <gnomefreak> FabParmaITA: dapper (not yet released) has a live cd installer
[02:55] <bakert> FabParmaITA: or with "dapper drake" you can install FROM the livecd
[02:55] <gfxstyler> soundray: still the same :/ thats bugging me for weeks already
[02:55] <gnomefreak> FabParmaITA: if you want breezy download the install cd
[02:55] <orbin> ubotu: tell Curtman about motu
[02:55] <Curtman> orbin: Thanks
[02:55] <soundray> crisen__: try entering "server" at the boot: prompt. If you're lucky, it'll install a minimal ubuntu, which you can then update via the network.
[02:56] <orbin> Curtman: that wasn't how to create a deb btw, it was how to bug the universe maintainers to update a package :)
[02:56] <luisito> _jason: thank you
[02:56] <FabParmaITA> gnomefreak: so, all people usin Ubuntu in live mode?
[02:56] <gnomefreak> FabParmaITA: no we install ubuntu ;)
[02:56] <gfxstyler> soundray: i maybe know why, the directory is just a symbolic link
[02:56] <soundray> gfxstyler: when you enter 'mount' by itself, does it report anything significantly different between / and /data ?
[02:57] <gfxstyler> soundray: like this: /home/gfxstyler/dir  -> points to /data/bla/dir
[02:57] <Curtman> orbin: Ahhhh..  Gentoo packages are soooo simple to update, but the system is a PITA otherwise..  If only debs were that easy, Ubuntu would rule the universe.  ;)
[02:57] <soundray> gfxstyler: that shouldn't really matter
[02:57] <gfxstyler> soundray: what?! it says noexec
[02:58] <gfxstyler> /dev/hda5 on /data type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime)
[02:58] <soundray> gfxstyler: there you go ;)
[02:58] <gfxstyler> soundray: but why? i didnt put noexec in fstab
[02:58] <FabParmaITA> please, i sak again. All Ubuntu users has to start form a bootable cd every time?
[02:58] <orbin> Curtman: re: making deb files from source...heard of checkinstall?
[02:58] <FabParmaITA> ask
[02:58] <soundray> gfxstyler: try mounting with defaults
[02:58] <gfxstyler> soundray: okay
[02:59] <Curtman> orbin: Nope.. I've been wading through various forms of 'Debian maintainers guide', and my head is spinning.  I'll google it, thanks.
[02:59] <KenSentMe> FabParmaITA: what do you mean? When u first install ubuntu u have to do that from a bootable device
[02:59] <orbin> ubotu: tell Curtman about checkinstall
[02:59] <soundray> FabParmaITA: perhaps people aren't quite clear what you mean. Have you asked in #ubuntu-it ?
[03:00] <gfxstyler> soundray: its working !!
[03:00] <gfxstyler> soundray: thank you so much!
[03:00] <FabParmaITA> soundray:  no, i don knew that channel
[03:00] <Curtman> orbin: Thanks again.
[03:00] <soundray> gfxstyler: it's possible (just guessing) that users implies noexec
[03:00] <orbin> Curtman: no worries
[03:00] <_jason> soundray: it does
[03:01] <_jason> heh I just read that a few hours ago
[03:01] <ic56> FabParmaITA: there are both live and an installed versions of ubuntu.
[03:01] <soundray> Thanks _jason. There you go, gfxstyler
[03:01] <gfxstyler> soundray: i used to use the "users" option as the partition was vfat, but now i formatted it as ext3, maybe thats different
[03:01] <Pluk> defaults are nosuid nodev and noexec
[03:01] <soundray> gfxstyler: yes, vfat always makes everything executable by default
[03:01] <FabParmaITA> soundray: i just wuold like to know if Ubuntu is live cd only, or it is possible to install it on an hard disk
[03:01] <ic56> FabParmaITA: you need to download the right one.
[03:01] <gfxstyler> soundray: so that was the reason :)
[03:01] <ic56> FabParmaITA: there are both live and an installed versions of ubuntu.
[03:02] <soundray> FabParmaITA: you can install it on a hard disk drive, but you have to get the installer CD (same place where you got the live one)
[03:02] <FabParmaITA> ic56: i didnt find in the site,
[03:02] <orbin> FabParmaITA: there's a livecd, an installcd and a dvd which you can run live and install from.  all can be found at ubuntu.com/download
[03:03] <FabParmaITA> soundray: please, can you give me the relese name or code, thankx
[03:03] <dli> orbin, what's the liveDVD link?
[03:03] <bakert> FabParmaITA: 5.10 Breezy Badger
[03:03] <strav> he.
[03:04] <orbin> dli: i'm pretty sure you get it via: www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:04] <FabParmaITA> bakert: is it a stable release?
[03:04] <orbin> FabParmaITA: it's the latest stable release, yes
[03:04] <ic56> FabParmITA: it's on the site.  Goto: http://www.ubuntu.com/Welcome  There are links for "Install CDs" and "Live CDs"
[03:04] <FabParmaITA> orbin: thankx a lot
[03:04] <FabParmaITA> bye
[03:04] <dli> orbin, good, dvd by bittorrent
[03:05] <orbin> dli: yep
[03:08] <steel_> everytime one of my friends trys connecting to my computer (through windows) it asks for a password, i try putting in the pass for my username and it doesnt work. Any ideas? I'm using samba
[03:08] <soundray> Friends, have you any idea where I can get support for R (statistical computing) related stuff?
[03:08] <soundray> steel_: samba usernames and passwords are independent of the standard ones.
[03:08] <lolownik> Can I install ubuntu on a dos extended partition ?
[03:09] <soundray> lolownik: no
[03:09] <steel_> how do i set and preferably remove the need
[03:09] <soundray> lolownik: you have to create a logical partition inside the extended one.
[03:09] <soundray> steel_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba ; look for smbpasswd
[03:09] <lsuactiafner> steel_ : use user nobody
[03:10] <lsuactiafner> when prompted
[03:10] <Hexidigital> has anyone here that tried to use XGL experienced a compiz.real - could not find display error?
[03:10] <steel_> thank you
[03:10] <lolownik> soundray,  logical in extended??
[03:10] <soundray> lolownik: yes, that's how it works.
[03:11] <orbin> what's the easiest way of deleting my windows partition on this dualboot machine and making a new partition for backup purposes w/ the freed space?  and will it impact grub?
[03:11] <lolownik> this can be done with linux's fdisk, yes?
[03:11] <lolownik> ah. ok right
[03:11] <soundray> orbin: keep the partition, just format it with mke2fs -j, won't bother grub
[03:11] <lolownik> thanks.
[03:12] <dli> Hexidigital, #ubuntu-xgl
[03:12] <dli> Hexidigital, or #xgl
[03:12] <orbin> soundray: sweet. so as easy as mke2fs -j <windows partition>?
[03:12] <Hexidigital> dli, they were no help
[03:13] <Hexidigital> i didn't try ubuntu-xgl
[03:13] <soundray> orbin: to be safe, remove the 'title' section from /boot/grub/menu.lst that refers to the windows partition.
[03:13] <Hexidigital> thanks, dli
[03:13] <soundray> orbin: exactly
[03:14] <soundray> orbin: after you've backed up everything you loved about your windows partition of course ;)
[03:14] <orbin> soundray: nothing on there really. :)
[03:14] <orbin> soundray: can i run that command now safely? or should i boot into recovery mode or something?
[03:15] <sword-> what's a good program to determine your case temperature, etc?
[03:15] <orbin> sword-: gkrellm works for me
[03:15] <soundray> orbin: it'll be fine. Recovery mode is recommended if you want to change the partition table, which you don't.
[03:15] <ic56> orbin: but you should umount the filesystem first
[03:16] <stevietool> someone who can help me out with the following wirelles failure message: ipw2200 cna't send wep_key command ?
[03:16] <soundray> orbin: well, maybe you do. You should change the partition type to 83, but you can do that before the next reboot.
[03:16] <orbin> sword-: http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4tz.png gkrellm's on the right
[03:17] <orbin> soundray: change partition type?  how would i do that?
[03:18] <Godis> HI
[03:18] <sword-> cool orbin , yeah for some reason certain sensr software hasn't worked in the past
[03:19] <soundray> orbin: first, heed ic56's advice of course. Call sudo fdisk and hit p <return> to see the partition table, t for type (answer the questions), w to actually write the changes, then reboot immediately.
[03:20] <orbin> soundray: doesn't fdisk just print the table?  do you mean cfdisk?
[03:20] <ic56> soundray,orbin: no need to reboot after the fdisk.
[03:20] <soundray> orbin: no
[03:20] <mirak> can grub boot on a /boot partition which is in fat32 ?
[03:20] <doms> php so rid
[03:20] <orbin> soundray: oh, sorry....too used to fsidk -l :)
[03:20] <soundray> ic56: the whole change is cosmetic anyway -- isn't it?
[03:20] <orbin> s/fsidk/fdisk
[03:21] <orbin> ok, i'm gonna run the mke2fs command now
[03:21] <soundray> orbin: have you unmounted?
[03:22] <ic56> sounday: changing the partitition type to 83? yes, it isn't necessary -- just good maintenance.
[03:22] <orbin> soundray: it wasn't mounted in the first place.  basically i only installed windows b/c i though i might need it for work (this isn't a gaming computer)...turns out i don't.
[03:22] <Godis> HOW DO I GET MA FLOPPY TO WORK
[03:22] <Godis> MA COMP THINKS ITS A HARDDRIVE
[03:22] <stevietool> any wireless specialist here?
[03:22] <ic56> orbin: umount the filesystem first.
[03:23] <Steff_breezy> hello, from time to time, my nautilus desktop behaves strange, new icons are not shown anymore, can this somehow be "resettet"?
[03:23] <soundray> Godis: turn of your caps lock first
[03:23] <soundray> *off
[03:23] <orbin> ic56: as in / ?
[03:23] <Godis> so
[03:23] <soundray> orbin: no
[03:23] <Godis> thanx
[03:23] <orbin> what filesystem then?
[03:24] <ic56> orbin: no. as in the windows partition you want to destroy.  If it's mounted, unmount it first.
[03:24] <Godis> sondray
[03:24] <soundray> Godis: have a look at the mtools package.
[03:24] <orbin> ic56: yeah, like i said, already unmounted
[03:24] <ic56> orbin: good.
[03:24] <Godis> Soundray , did u get my question
[03:24] <Godis> oki
[03:24] <orbin> ok, mk32fs finished, (that was quick), but fdisk -l still shows ntfs
[03:24] <orbin> soundray, ic56 :  is that what you meant by changing the part. type?
[03:25] <soundray> orbin: exactly.
[03:25] <orbin> soundray: ah
[03:25] <orbin> ok, running fdisk now
[03:25] <Godis> Soundray, where do i find MTOOLS
[03:25] <orbin> soundray: ok, sudo fdisk just prints out the command usage
[03:26] <Exxcaliber> Hey Guys.. I just deleted a file called /etc/mediaarpm or something like that
[03:26] <soundray> Godis: sudo apt-get install mtools
[03:26] <ic56> orbin, soundray: mk32fs? is that the one for windows filesystems?
[03:26] <Exxcaliber> Would anyone please paste it to me in priv?
[03:26] <soundray> orbin: sudo fdisk /dev/hda or whatever
[03:26] <Steff_breezy> when I put a new file on the desktop, the file is not shown on the nautilus desktop,  is there any solution to this?
[03:26] <orbin> soundray: yeah, forgot the device :)
[03:26] <Steff_breezy> this happens every once in a while
[03:27] <_jason> Steff_breezy: are you sure it is not behind another icon? (that happens to me sometimes)
[03:27] <_jason> Steff_breezy: try right clicking on desktop and doing ``clean up by name''
[03:28] <Exxcaliber> I Just deleted a file called /etc/mediaarpm, would anyone please care to paste the file in a private message to me, so that i can restore it?
[03:28] <Steff_breezy> _jason, ok, that solved it, thanks
[03:28] <orbin> soundray, ic56 : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13144
[03:28] <orbin> what do i enter?
[03:28] <soundray> orbin: 83
[03:28] <orbin> ah
[03:29] <orbin> soundray: sweet.  part. table reflected the change
[03:29] <soundray> Exxcaliber: why don't you just apt-get --reinstall install fdutils
[03:30] <Exxcaliber> soundray i didn't know I could do that, what will then happen?
[03:30] <rambo3> esplode
[03:31] <soundray> Exxcaliber: it will overwrite all the files in the fdutils package (dpkg -L fdutils to list them all), regenerating your /etc/ file in the process.
[03:31] <Exxcaliber> soundray, anyways something with my internet connection is messed up so no connection to the repositories
[03:31] <soundray> Exxcaliber: it will work without if the deb is still in the cache.
[03:32] <Exxcaliber> cool
[03:32] <Exxcaliber> I'll check it out.. Thx for ya help
[03:32] <orbin> soundray: ok, i made an fstab line by copying the one for /home but i can't get write access to the new partition it seems.  here's the line i used: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ext3    defaults        0       2  ... does that look okay?
[03:33] <Exxcaliber> soundray are you like the author of fdutils, since you knew that mediarpm was part of that package!? :D
[03:33] <soundray> orbin: looks good. Did you do mount /media/hda1 after that?
[03:33] <soundray> Exxcaliber: no, I looked it up.
[03:33] <orbin> soundray: i did a mount -a after i edited fstab
[03:34] <soundray> orbin: with sudo, you should get write access.
[03:34] <tkhobbes> Hi all, I testwise started an ubuntu 6.06 beta 2 from cd. My Intellimouse works all of a sudden. :) where can I find the mouse settings in order to investigate its entries?
[03:35] <_jason> tkhobbes: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:35] <soundray> tkhobbes: they'll be part of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:35] <orbin> soundray: yep, sudo worked.  how come i need root privileges w/ this partition, but not with /home if i just copied the line?
[03:35] <tkhobbes> jason: that's right - I found them already. however, it's more about the scrollwheel and thumb-buttons
[03:35] <jablotronik> hi, please do you know any software for control cpu fan speed ?
[03:35] <soundray> orbin: because fstab doesn't determine permissions for directories.
[03:35] <_jason> tkhobbes: not sure what you are asking
[03:36] <soundray> orbin: they are determined per file and per directory. Change them with chmod.
[03:36] <orbin> soundray: ah, so chmod /media/hda1?
[03:36] <rambo3> it can be some gnome thing with mouse buttons
[03:36] <tkhobbes> _jason: Mousewheel and thumb buttons do not work in my other distro and I never got them working. However, the settings in Ubuntu seem right from scratch - where do I find them?
[03:36] <soundray> orbin: if you want to change the base dir of the new file system, which is probably not recommended, unless you trust all of your users.
[03:36] <ic56> orbin: /media is meant for removable media not internal disks.  Think up a good name, like /backup and mount your new filesystem there.
[03:37] <soundray> orbin: and you need to give chmod the permissions you want. Read info chmod
[03:37] <orbin> ic56: i see, thanks
[03:37] <orbin> soundray: yep, i'll read the man page.  thanks for all your help
[03:38] <orbin> ic56: you too
[03:38] <soundray> orbin: it's in the info page, not that man afaik
[03:38] <nikosgr> hello
[03:38] <nikosgr> iam still ahving prolem configuring apache2.conf
[03:39] <ic56> orbin: the root of your new filesystem is owned by user root.  How do you intend to use it?  Will you be manually copying stuff in there as user orbin or will you be running some kind of automated backup tool tht will back files not just owned by but by everyone in the system?
[03:39] <_jason> tkhobbes: afaik the xorg.conf file is what will get X to properly recognize the buttons.  Are you asking which part in specific would affect those buttons?  In that case, probably Buttons and Zaxis
[03:39] <mikomiko> Hello, how do i run my gmail notifier
[03:39] <mikomiko> I have downloaded it but dont know how to start it
[03:39] <_jason> mikomiko: did you install gmail-notify from the repositories?
[03:39] <mikomiko> No
[03:40] <orbin> ic56: well, i just wanted to get rid of windows first off :)  i dunno, i'll probably just end up chucking stuff there when i feel like it
[03:40] <mikomiko> I downloaded it dont know how to install it to repositories
[03:40] <tkhobbes> _jason: got that. don't I need imwheel or something additionally?
[03:40] <orbin> ic56: i don't plan to do an automated backup or anything if that's what you mean
[03:40] <mikomiko> i downloaded it to /home/mikomiko/gmail-notify/
[03:40] <_jason> mikomiko: do you know how to use synaptic?
[03:40] <_jason> !info gmail-notify
[03:41] <ubotu> gmail-notify: (gmail new mail notifier), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 1.6.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[03:41] <ic56> orbin: in that case, the best strategy is to leave the permissions as they are, then sudo mkdir /backup/orbin then chown orbin:orbin /backup/orbin then chmod 700 /backup/orbin   Thereafter, you can just dump files into /backup/orbin -- you own that directory and noone else can see what's inside it.
[03:41] <_jason> tkhobbes: I doubt that dapper would set that up for you, have you tried using 'xev' to see if your buttons are being properly recognized?  If they are then all you would need is imwheel or xbindkeys to make them do what you want
[03:42] <mikomiko> got it
[03:42] <mikomiko> TY
[03:42] <ic56> orbin: this allows for a future use of creating /backup/orbin's-wife :-)
[03:42] <_jason> mikomiko: it should show up in the internet menu under applications once you install it
[03:42] <orbin> ic56: lol, thanks very much for the step-by-step rundown.
[03:43] <steel_> how do i view windows computers' shared files with samba?
[03:43] <_jason> tkhobbes: but I can't say with certainty that dapper isn't doing something behind the scenes.  Might want to try #ubuntu+1 where more dapper users tend to be
[03:43] <tkhobbes> _jason: that's what I was asking: buttons and wheel are recognized correctly - at least, they are working "out-of-the-box" (life-cd). How's that? my other distro's xorg.conf settings are exactly the same and wheel / tumb-buttons don't work
[03:44] <beta_m> i have a FAT32 partition mounted with read and write priviledges for all, but i can only write to that partition via sudo, what is wrong?
[03:44] <|lostbyte|> balrog-kun: i get "vfs: cannot open root device "hda5" pr unknown-block(0,0)" and "Please append a correct root= boot option" "Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" any idea ?
[03:44] <|lostbyte|> pr/or*
[03:44] <mjr> beta_m, clearly you don't have it mounted with read and write priviledges for all
[03:44] <immolo> you didn't mount with the users opion beta_m
[03:44] <_jason> tkhobbes: does your other distro catch the back and forward buttons when you run xev?
[03:44] <|lostbyte|> i just compiled my new kernel.. and i get the abbove ?
[03:44] <tkhobbes> _jason: no (it's gentoo, btw)
[03:45] <mjr> beta_m, how do you figure you have it rw for all?
[03:45] <soundray> steel_: you don't. Samba is for sharing local filesystems.
[03:45] <_jason> tkhobbes: same Xorg version?
[03:45] <steel_> how do i view windows shared files then?
[03:45] <beta_m> error, it's only read/write for my user not for all... simple ls -l tells me this, and i see that in fstab file
[03:45] <tkhobbes> _jason: is dapper already on 7.0?
[03:45] <soundray> steel_: try Places-Network Servers
[03:46] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| maybe you forgot to include the drivers for your filesystem!? or maybe you wrote the wrong parameters for your bootloader!?
[03:46] <steel_> heh ok *blush*
[03:46] <orbin> ic56: ok, hope i'm not being ignorant here, but why can't i create the dir?  i get: mkdir: cannot create directory `/backup/orbin': No such file or directory ... and yes, i used sudo
[03:46] <beta_m> immolo:  what are "users option?
[03:46] <_jason> tkhobbes: yes 7.0, mind moving to #ubuntu+1 ?
[03:46] <immolo> beta_m, where you put rw also put users
[03:46] <ic56> orbin: it should work.  Did you umount /media/hda1 and mount it on /backup/orbin ?
[03:47] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: cant be the first, because i did make oldconfig.
[03:47] <_jason> tkhobbes: (just to keep the channels organized)
[03:47] <tkhobbes> _jason: yep
[03:47] <orbin> ic56: it's still mounted.  but that wouldn't matter would it?  this is just a dir creation
[03:47] <beta_m> immolo:  it's a usb drive, how where do i have it then?
[03:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell simonpca about away
[03:47] <soundray> orbin: try mkdir -p
[03:47] <ic56> orbin: does /backup exist?
[03:48] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| strange.. I have had that error a couple of times.. did you backup your old kernel!?, and almost everytime it had something to do with the disks, like arpm / acpi or the filesystem modules
[03:48] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: which part in grub you feel is wrong ?
[03:48] <orbin> ic56: no
[03:48] <ic56> orbin: i.e. did you mkdir /backup ?
[03:48] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| the one defining your root partition
[03:48] <Exxcaliber> and you boot directory
[03:48] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: i'll type it here..
[03:49] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| dont paste too much
[03:49] <ic56> soundray's advice (mkdir -p) will work but it won't do what you need done.  Since your intent is to mount the filesystem at /backup, you don't want to create /backup/orbin until you've mounted the filesystem.
[03:49] <orbin> soundray: thanks
[03:49] <orbin> ic56: oh?
[03:49] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: ok
[03:49] <orbin> so what should i er, do...
[03:49] <ic56> orbin: you want the orbin directory to be created *insdie* the filesystem.
[03:49] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: title kernel_name
[03:50] <beta_m> ok, i really don't understand now... it is definitely rw. when i type mount it gives me "/dev/sdb1 on /media/REMOVE type vfat (rw,[...] )"
[03:50] <ic56> orbin: when you mount a filesystem, it hides whatever was at the mount point.
[03:50] <soundray> ic56: you are much better than I at sussing out what people actually want... I'll try and pick that up from you.
[03:50] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: root        (hd0,4)
[03:50] <Exxcaliber> and your  root partition is on /hda4?
[03:50] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: nope ! hda5
[03:51] <Exxcaliber> okay...
[03:51] <ic56> soundray: just paying attention to what orbin's been saying.  You're fielding questions from many more people, so your attention is more devided.
[03:51] <Exxcaliber> try (hd0,5) <- im not certain.. but it makes sense to me :)
[03:51] <ic56> (divided)
[03:51] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-rc3 root=/dev/hda5
[03:51] <|lostbyte|> Exposure: ok !
[03:52] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: and last is "boot"
[03:52] <Das-Herrkurm> btw, how do i uninstall applications/programs whicjh i have installed from .run packages
[03:52] <soundray> ic56: that's a very benevolent way of framing it ;)
[03:52] <odin_> okay, this might not be a linux question, but is there any way to force-delete something that says it's on a read-only disk when it's not
[03:52] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| i must admit im not much into the grub config, but if changing it to (hd0,5) doesnt help, then check out the documentation for the grub config
[03:52] <ic56> soundray: you're doing a great job of answering questions here. Thank you!
[03:52] <orbin> ic56: so i don't need to make /backup/orbin ?
[03:52] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: ok ! i changed it. rebooting now..
[03:53] <Exxcaliber> kk
[03:53] <verdee> i'm a ppc user and i'm reading the wiki about the codecs... i discover i can't see mpeg, mov etc, that's right?
[03:53] <Das-Herrkurm> btw, how do i uninstall applications/programs which i have installed from .run packages such as enemy territory. The add/remove doesnt show it
[03:53] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: Now i get Error 15:File not found
[03:54] <Exxcaliber> else just grab a standard kernel from the ubuntu livecd ;) and then change your kernel, step by step, so that you'll eventually figure out what module you are missing / what module is wrong
[03:54] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte|.. sux..
[03:54] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| try using a standard kernel, just to get the grub config right..
[03:54] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: before that error it tells me the grub config..
[03:54] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| well, to make sure its right
[03:54] <soundray> ic56: thanks for your encouragement.
[03:54] <ic56> orbin: let's put it this way: you want to create directory `orbin' inside the new filesystem.  If the filesystem is still mounte at /media/hda1 then you can create with: mkdir /media/hda1/orbin  When you unmount it and then mount it at /backup , you will discover that orbin is now under /backup . Which makes sense.  You created the directory inside that filesystem.
[03:54] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: standard kernel ?
[03:54] <|lostbyte|> meaning..
[03:55] <Exxcaliber> Sry |lostbyte| but this is as far as i can help you..
[03:55] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: np :)
[03:55] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| standard kernel!? I mean, if you grab a ubuntu livecd, it'll contain a kernel, like any livecd.. This kernel is stable and designed to run on almost any configuration.. Which means.. IT'll work !
[03:56] <Das-Herrkurm> btw, how do i uninstall applications/programs which i have installed from .run packages. The add/remove doesnt show it nor can i find it in synaptic
[03:56] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: i have my preveous kernel..
[03:56] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| so you could use that kernel, if you can't access your system in any other way
[03:56] <|lostbyte|> which i am boot with to change the grub.
[03:56] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| oh.. greate :)
[03:56] <flankk> Hello
[03:56] <ic56> !justask
[03:56] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[03:56] <Rorviker> How can I disable apt-get to install from the install cd? I want it to only download from internet since I have removed my cd drive.
[03:56] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| have you got a backup of the config file for your last working kernel?
[03:56] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: actually.. the resone to getting this latest kernel is because it contains my wifi drivers..
[03:56] <Exxcaliber> ;)
[03:57] <soundray> Das-Herrkurm: by installing from a .run file, you bypassed the apt system.
[03:57] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: yes..
[03:57] <soundray> Das-Herrkurm: if you're lucky, you can call that .run file again, and it'll give you an option to uninstall.
[03:57] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: the whole builing stuff went smooth..
[03:57] <Das-Herrkurm> soundray , im willing to uninstall it through teh konsole, i just dont know how ;)
[03:57] <Das-Herrkurm> thx soundray
[03:57] <beta_m> sorry for repeating. here is my problem. I have a vfat (fat32) usb drive, which is mounted in rw mode (i can see that in mtab) but only sudo can make me write to that drive. The owner of the directory that it's mounted on shows up as my user, and i have read and write priviledges for it. What is wrong?
[03:57] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| strange..
[03:58] <Exxcaliber> It's out of my leauge.. but hey, don't compile that wifi stuff as a part of your kernel, compile it as a module :)
[03:58] <Exxcaliber> GLHF :)
[03:58] <nikosgr> hi
[03:59] <nikosgr> i ahve 3 temsinal session open in tabs
[03:59] <nikosgr> and when i tri with ctrl+2 to chnage irssi window
[03:59] <nikosgr> it changes terminal sessions isntead
[03:59] <nikosgr> what can i do?
[03:59] <soundray> beta_m: did you mount it manually?
[03:59] <beta_m> no
[04:00] <verdee> highvoltage, sorry for repeating, i'm a ppc user and i'm reading the wiki about the codecs... i discover i can't see mpeg, mov etc, that's right?
[04:00] <verdee> gh
[04:00] <verdee> no highvoltage, sorry
[04:00] <nikosgr> anyone knows?
[04:00] <|lostbyte|> Exposure: yes ! its as a module..
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[04:00] <nikosgr> also when i minimizw windows it wont go to panel down bu the just dissapear
[04:01] <orbin> ic56: ah, now i get you..
[04:01] <nikosgr> anyone knows?
[04:01] <Das-Herrkurm> soundray, if it doesnt give me the option to uninstall how can i uninstall it through konsole?
[04:01] <ic56> orbin: good!
[04:01] <truz24> How do I get some of my old kernel entries off my menu.lst, I tried deleting but it seems that automagic is putting them back.  Do i have to remove the kernels?
[04:01] <nikosgr> please help
[04:01] <XxDeMoNxX> Hi all! I have a problem with my sound, i keep hearing some sort of Cracking.....
[04:01] <nikosgr> windows dissapear
[04:02] <XxDeMoNxX> Any Idea how I can fix this?
[04:02] <soundray> Das-Herrkurm: you have to find out which files are part of that program and remove them all with 'sudo rm file'
[04:02] <nikosgr> soundray: ?
[04:03] <in10city> is there anyone here who could help me mount a VFAT drive??
[04:03] <soundray> nikosgr: hold on
[04:03] <Das-Herrkurm> does ubuntu have like registry with all the entries from programs in it? i know where i installed my program. may i just delete those files?
[04:03] <XxDeMoNxX> Hi all! I have a problem with my sound, i keep hearing some sort of Cracking..... help, please? :s
[04:03] <Das-Herrkurm> with the rm
[04:03] <nikosgr> mount -t vfat /dev/device /media/mountpointdir
[04:03] <orbin> ic56: er, would a mount point of / be bad?   e.g. say i create a dir called "backup" on the filesystem.  would that be mounted as /backup?
[04:03] <Rorviker> How can I disable apt-get to install from the install cd? I want it to only download from internet since I have removed my cd drive.
[04:03] <Plouj___> hi
[04:03] <_jason> !apt_cd
[04:03] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _jason
[04:03] <beta_m> in10city:  you can do "man fstab" in console window, it will tell you how to mount it automagically
[04:04] <_jason> !aptcd
[04:04] <ubotu> to turn off apt-get from trying to install from the cd, comment out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list (put a # in front of it) that says "deb cdrom:", or in synaptic, go to settings > repositories and disable the cdrom repository
[04:04] <Rorviker> thx
[04:04] <Plouj___> can someone help me figure out to configure wlan0 and wifi0? I have only one wireless card in the laptop, but both exist, and I'm getting a similar problem to this: http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/2004-August/007556.html but I don't know how to not assign an ip to wifi0 while keeping it enabled.
[04:04] <soundray> beta_m: what options are shown for the drive when you type 'mount'?
[04:05] <beta_m> "/dev/sdb1 on /media/REMOVE type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[04:05] <beta_m> "
[04:05] <ic56> orbin: / is already taken.  / is where the root filesystem is mounted -- the one that contains excutables like ls and mount in /bin and config files like /etc/fstab
[04:05] <soundray> Das-Herrkurm: that should work.
[04:05] <Das-Herrkurm> ill try it, thanks soundray
[04:05] <highvoltage> verdee: np, i get that a lot ;)
[04:05] <ic56> orbin: so you should mkdir /backup
[04:05] <ic56>  mount /dev/hda1 /backup
[04:06] <ic56> orbin: so you should mkdir /backup ; mount /dev/hda1 backup
[04:06] <orbin> ic56: yes, that's why i asked if it was bad or not.  thanks. :)
[04:06] <ic56> orbin: (sudo both commands, of course)
[04:06] <orbin> yep
[04:07] <soundray> beta_m: what's your uid? (Find out from /etc/passwd)
[04:07] <beta_m> soundray:  1000
[04:08] <verdee> ok highvoltage :P
[04:08] <soundray> beta_m: what does 'touch /media/REMOVE/touchtest say?
[04:09] <soundray> beta_m: what does 'touch /media/REMOVE/touchtest' say?
[04:09] <Howitzer> Is it bad to only have 1.8GB left on your / partition?(/home is on a seperate partition)
[04:09] <beta_m> nothing at all
[04:09] <Howitzer> NOTE: i can't resize the / partition
[04:09] <beta_m> i don't need to sudo it do i?
[04:10] <soundray> beta_m: does /media/REMOVE/touchtest exist now?
[04:10] <soundray> beta_m: no
[04:10] <ic56> Howitzer: 1.8GB sounds like plenty of space to me.  Are you worried it's too big or too small?
[04:10] <beta_m> yes it does
[04:10] <bluelotus> Hey, I'm looking for a dock-app to manage wifi-connections...  kinda like wifi-radar and network manager combined...
[04:10] <Howitzer> too small :/
[04:10] <beta_m> it's empty file
[04:10] <in10city> there is nothing in media to connect to when i run that command to mount the drive
[04:10] <in10city> and I cant create folders in there
[04:10] <Plouj___> why does ubuntu setup wifi0 as a bridge interface of some sort?
[04:11] <beta_m> wtf, it's working now... i don't understand
[04:11] <beta_m> i couldn't move files to that drive a second ago, and it's moving them now
[04:11] <ic56> Howitzer: you want to install lots more stuff, then?
[04:11] <Howitzer> not exactly
[04:11] <Howitzer> but i might :/
[04:11] <soundray> beta_m: perhaps it took a while to mount?
[04:11] <beta_m> but this was a problem for days already
[04:12] <soundray> beta_m: did you plug the drive while you were logged in?
[04:12] <beta_m> it was plugged in during the boot up
[04:12] <ic56> Howitzer: try reading the man page for resize2fs.
[04:12] <soundray> beta_m: that explains it (I think)
[04:12] <Howitzer> okay
[04:13] <Howitzer> i'll keep that in mind when i run out of space..
[04:13] <Nadimar> yay! got my Broadcom wireless card working =)
[04:13] <beta_m> well, isn't there a way to make it work propperly even though i have it connected during the boot up?
[04:13] <orbin> ic56, soundray : thanks again.  all setup now :)
[04:13] <Howitzer> but it's just, i once installed Dapper and set everything up really nice how i like it, turns out 2GB was too small for a root partition so i had to start all over again since i used reiserfs -_-
[04:13] <soundray> beta_m: yes
[04:13] <Howitzer> now i'm a bit scared for it -_-
[04:14] <soundray> beta_m: you'd have to make an entry for that drive in /etc/fstab
[04:14] <LordFalcon> How can I upgrade to the latest dapper release with apt ?
[04:14] <beta_m> soundray:  hmm, but then sometimes it's not plugged in during the start up. won't that make an error?
[04:14] <baconbacon> !upgrade
[04:14] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[04:15] <soundray> beta_m: under "options" use the options that you saw on the "mount" command, plus the option 'noauto'
[04:15] <soundray> beta_m: with noauto, it won't try to mount it immediately on boot.
[04:15] <ic56> Howitzer resize2fs is for ext2 and ext3 filesystems.  It won't work on reiser.   I don't know if there's a resizing tool for reiser.  Keep in mind that resizing filesystems isn't a traditional unix operation so resizing tools tend to be hacks written later.
[04:16] <beta_m> but will it mount it when i'll log in, or will i have to do sudo mount?
[04:16] <macho> hi
[04:16] <LordFalcon> thnx
[04:17] <Das-Herrkurm> is it possible to delete whole folders with the sudo rm command?
[04:17] <Tomcat_> Das-Herrkurm: Yes. with -f
[04:17] <Das-Herrkurm> how should the cmd look like?
[04:18] <HymnToLife> isn't it -r ?
[04:18] <Das-Herrkurm> where should the flag be?
[04:18] <soundray> beta_m: you will be able to do mount /mountpoint as user (you can add that in System-Prefs-Session)
[04:18] <macho> bbbb
[04:18] <[D] ARKFENIX> does anybody knows about a video editor like windows movie maker but for linux
[04:18] <baconbacon> rm -r ./folder
[04:18] <ic56> Howitzer: aha.  There *is* a resize tool for reisser: read manpage resize_reiserfs.
[04:18] <Tomcat_> Das-Herrkurm: HymnToLife is right... it's -r
[04:18] <Das-Herrkurm> ill try it :>
[04:19] <HymnToLife> [D] ARKFENIX> kino or cinelerra (<= or whatever the hell it is spelled)
[04:19] <soundray> Tomcat_, Das-Herrkurm, HymnToLife, you will need rm -rf, unless the dir is empty, in which case rm -r is enough.
[04:19] <beta_m> soundray:  thanks a lot... q;-)
[04:20] <[D] ARKFENIX> where i can download cinelarra?
[04:20] <lucas> cinelarra is quite advanced
[04:20] <HymnToLife> [D] ARKFENIX> it is in the repos
[04:21] <Das-Herrkurm> thx a lot for your help soundray , HymnToLife and Tomcat_
[04:21] <Chris_Tucker> is there a way to mount an ftp share in a folder just like sshfs would?
[04:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> root@sherneyko:/home/shpr# apt-get install cinelerra
[04:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[04:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> Creando rbol de dependencias... Hecho
[04:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete cinelerra
[04:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> root@sherneyko:/home/shpr#
[04:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> isn't in the repositories
[04:22] <Chris_Tucker> !paste
[04:22] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:22] <soundray> Chris_Tucker: I think there is... Look at package lufs-utils
[04:22] <sword-> question
[04:22] <sword-> http://www.zimmertech.com/images/kubuntu_full.jpg
[04:23] <[D] ARKFENIX> ahh ok sorry
[04:23] <hob> Hi, is it possible to make my desktop = my home directory?
[04:23] <sword-> does anyone know what program that is that is showing the cpu stats?
[04:23] <[D] ARKFENIX> gkrellm
[04:23] <[D] ARKFENIX> gdesklets
[04:23] <[D] ARKFENIX> superkaramba
[04:23] <soundray> sword-: top
[04:23] <sword-> but that is a different version of top
[04:23] <|lostbyte|> how to make an initrd ?
[04:23] <sword-> you see what im talking about? to the right?
[04:23] <ic56> hob: it is but you won't like the effect.
[04:24] <hob> ic56, why not? Does it show the hidden dirs?
[04:24] <bence_> hi
[04:25] <soundray> sword-: sorry, missed the first part of your question... look at [D] ARKFENIX's suggestions.
[04:25] <doms> Depends: zope-cmfplone how to install that dependencies
[04:25] <ic56> hob: I think so.  Try creating a file that begins with a dot in your desktop and see if it's visible or hidden.
[04:26] <sword-> soundray, no posted a link
[04:26] <sword-> and there is a program here
[04:26] <sword-> http://www.zimmertech.com/images/kubuntu_full.jpg
[04:27] <sword-> that is giving system stats including temperature
[04:27] <sword-> i was wondering what it was
[04:27] <Rorviker> When I do apt-get install , where will it put programs ?
[04:27] <soundray> sword-: yes, I saw that meanwhile.
[04:27] <ic56> hob: apparently hidden files are *not* displayed on the desktop.  Interesting.
[04:27] <soundray> sword-: it could be any one of those that [D] ARKFENIX has listed.
[04:27] <elkbuntu> hob, however, you will be dramatically limited by what can be in your home root
[04:27] <sword-> ah
[04:28] <macho> i am using ubuntu 64 bit . i am the begineer . i need some guide to configure from basic to active my adsl modem over ethernet.
[04:28] <soundray> sword-: probably superkaramba since it's KDE
[04:29] <lucas> !pppoe
[04:29] <ubotu> somebody said pppoe was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[04:29] <Tomcat_> macho: If it's connected to one of the ethernet interfaces, it should be as easy as "sudo pppoeconfig"
[04:29] <hob> elkbuntu, in what way?
[04:29] <[D] ARKFENIX> sword : if you want a lightweight desklet -> gkrellm
[04:29] <lucas> macho, look at that link
[04:29] <elkbuntu> hob, does your desktop have a scrollbar?
[04:29] <[D] ARKFENIX> sword : if you want a beauty desklet -> superkaramba or gdesklets
[04:29] <[D] ARKFENIX> sword : if you want a normal desklet -> adeslets
[04:29] <sword-> i need something specifically that tells me the temperature of my cpu
[04:29] <sword-> etc
[04:29] <[D] ARKFENIX> gdesklets
[04:30] <hob> elkbuntu, no...is this a bunch of rhetorics to try and put me off? :)
[04:30] <macho> it says cant find the directory
[04:30] <[D] ARKFENIX> shows you all
[04:30] <soundray> sword-: mbmon, or look at the files under /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/
[04:30] <void^> acpi -V, or lm_sensors for annoying mainboards
[04:30] <elkbuntu> well... you asked how you would be limited, i responded in a way to make you figure it for youself ;)
[04:30] <ic56> hob: alright, you can be our guinea pig.  To change your homedir, sudo vipw and edit the 2nd-last field in the line for your username.  Change it from /home/hob to /home/hob/Desktop
[04:31] <sword-> sword@ubuntu:/proc/acpi/thermal_zone$ acpi -V
[04:31] <sword-> No support for device type: thermal
[04:31] <ic56> hob: then, move all the hidden files from /home/hob to /home/hob/Desktop
[04:31] <bence_> hello
[04:31] <lucas> macho, are you running "sudo pppoeconf"?
[04:31] <ic56> hob: finally, log in on a console window to make sure you still *can* login.  If all is ok, try logging out of the GUI and back in again.  Good luck!
[04:32] <bence_> two
[04:32] <soundray> lucas, are you sure that macho needs pppoe and not pppoa?
[04:32] <macho> i need a flash plugin for my 64 bit firfox browser. i downloaded it from macromedia. but it dont support. can u hlp me get the compactible plugin and guide to install that. i am currently using k package to manage downloaded application. also guide me to get custom application for 64 linux.
[04:33] <ic56> hob: BTW, vipw defaults to invoking vi.  if your favourite editor is something else, use VISUAL=youreditor sudo vipw
[04:33] <lucas> soundray, well, he said "adsl modem over ethernet."
[04:33] <mumbles> any people here who have gotten a dlink airepluss DWL-G650+ working ?
[04:33] <soundray> macho: you can't use Macromedia Flash with amd64.
[04:33] <macho> it displays command not found
[04:34] <soundray> macho: you can reinstall ubuntu i386, then it'll work
[04:34] <hob> ic56, is that moving my home dir to my desktop dir? I want to do it the other way round, and have my desktop viewing my home dir...i thought there was an option to do that somewhere, i just can't find it
[04:34] <elkbuntu> soundray, what about openGL?
[04:34] <soundray> elkbuntu: what about it?
[04:34] <macho> then is there any third party . or any browser that support
[04:34] <AnAnt> can I upgrade from Breezy to Drapper using the Install icon in Drapper's LiveCD ?
[04:34] <Tomcat_> hob: Just link ~/Desktop to ~?
[04:34] <ic56> hob: ah. Yes the instructions I gave you take you in the opposite direction.
[04:34] <macho> what i386 means
[04:34] <soundray> macho: swf-player, but it's experimental
[04:35] <macho> i586 means
[04:35] <macho> waher to get swf player
[04:35] <hob> Tomcat, then I've got a useless folder in my home dir...
[04:35] <Tomcat_> macho: i386 is the CPU standard based on the intel 386... most CPUs can use that.
[04:35] <soundray> macho: i386 is the 32-bit architecture with which Athlon 64 CPUs are compatible.
[04:35] <macho> does it support 64 bit
[04:35] <Tomcat_> hob: Well, it's only a workaround. No other ideas, sorry. :)
[04:35] <soundray> macho: you are asking too many questions at once.
[04:36] <Tomcat_> macho: amd64 CPUs can do i386, yes.
[04:36] <hob> Tomcat, no probs. That was my first thought too
[04:36] <elkbuntu> err.. what did i say before... opengl.. my mistake... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f4b5a0e592cf89fac0bb7f5388c8e1733413af21
[04:36] <soundray> macho: it is not clear who you are asking.
[04:36] <macho> sorry i am trying to reply
[04:36] <elkbuntu> macho, what is your native language?
[04:36] <soundray> macho: use the nicknames.
[04:36] <AnAnt> can I upgrade from Breezy to Dapper using the Install icon in Dapper's LiveCD ?
[04:36] <macho> tamil
[04:37] <Tomcat_> AnAnt: I doubt it. But I don't know for sure.
[04:37] <macho> any one knows kindly guide me
[04:37] <hob> ic56, hmm, can't figure this one out. Not worries, it was only a whim. Thanks anyway
[04:37] <ic56> What's the name of the program that displays the GNOME desktop?
[04:37] <AnAnt> ic56: gnome-session ?
[04:38] <macho> is that 64 bit architecture is stable or unstable
[04:38] <curley_sue> HELP NEEDED. I made the stupedest mistake: "sudo rm -R /media/mountpoint". any ideas how to recover the deleted files?
[04:38] <soundray> macho: it is exceedingly stable
[04:39] <Dark-Night> lol My CD drive wont eject even when i righ tclick eject, it says its got an invalid argument
[04:39] <white_lightning> I'm running 64-bit right now
[04:39] <elkbuntu> Dark-Night, did you try from command line?
[04:39] <soundray> curley_sue: first, unplug the drive if it is pluggable.
[04:39] <Dark-Night> what should it type in?
[04:39] <macho> soundtray i had downloaded upto 1gb of sofware . if i migrate all will be waste
[04:40] <elkbuntu> try umount /media/cdrom0
[04:40] <sbassett516> curley_sue: what was the filesystem on the media?
[04:40] <Dark-Night> ok thanks :D
[04:40] <macho> sdtray do can u guide me
[04:40] <elkbuntu> it worked?
[04:40] <Godis> blue lotus , how do i open rar files??
[04:40] <curley_sue> sbassett516,  soundray, it is a FAT32 partition on my HD(forgot to mention) already unmounted
[04:40] <[D] ARKFENIX> must I put an extra line in the repositories for installing cinelerra?
[04:41] <sbassett516> Dark-Kight: also sudo eject /media/cdrom0
[04:41] <macho> sdtray i need lot of guidelines
[04:41] <Dark-Night> umount: /media/cdrom1 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[04:41] <Dark-Night>  <-- thast what it says
[04:41] <elkbuntu> try what sbassett516 said then
[04:41] <ic56> AnAnt: thanks!  Looks like gnome-session starts nautilus to display the desktop.
[04:41] <soundray> curley_sue: you may be able to undelete files from DOS/Windows.
[04:41] <macho> are u ther
[04:41] <sbassett516> Dark-Night: Is this cdrom0 or cdrom1
[04:41] <sbassett516> ?
[04:42] <ic56> hob: try man nautilus and, if you can figure out the right options, modify /usr/share/gnome/default.session
[04:42] <[D] ARKFENIX> must I put an extra line in the repositories for installing cinelerra?
[04:42] <orbin> [D] ARKFENIX: there's deb files: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html
[04:42] <ocult> hello
[04:42] <ocult> my sound card isnt installed in system
[04:42] <Dark-Night> cdrom0, it says that its not mounted
[04:42] <ocult> in system preferences  Audio
[04:42] <macho> sda
[04:42] <elkbuntu> [D] ARKFENIX, please dont spam us with the same question over and over
[04:42] <[D] ARKFENIX> thanks
[04:42] <ocult> is in blank
[04:42] <ocult> how i solve this problem ?
[04:42] <macho> a
[04:42] <ocult> please somebody ????????
[04:42] <ocult> is one realtek ac` 97
[04:42] <macho> are u there
[04:42] <curley_sue> soundray, how is that done (I am using a dual-boot with XP) haven't rebooted since the deletion (of about 15G)
[04:42] <ocult> ompaul, help me please.
[04:43] <sbassett516> Drak-Knight: your other post says cdrom1?
[04:43] <soundray> curley_sue: was XP on the partition you deleted?
[04:43] <sbassett516> typo?
[04:43] <doms> zope2.8:
[04:43] <doms>  Depends: python2.3-xml  but it is not installable
[04:43] <macho> as my root account is refusing to login . it strucks in loading
[04:43] <soundray> !tell ocult about sound
[04:43] <macho> how to repair it
[04:43] <Dark-Night> oh sorry i was seeing if it was cdrom1 or cdrom0
[04:43] <ocult> soundray, it dont solv
[04:43] <ocult> i was reading
[04:43] <ocult> =/
[04:43] <elkbuntu> ocult, you cant depend on people to be around, try being patient and waiting for others to get to your question
[04:43] <Dark-Night> must have copyed the wrong one
[04:44] <macho> without loosing downloaded
[04:44] <Tomcat_> doms: Does sudo apt-get upgrade report any not upgradable packages?
[04:44] <ocult> elkbuntu, thanks, when u have time please help me
[04:44] <ocult> ^^
[04:44] <ocult> arigatou
[04:44] <elkbuntu> s/people/certain people/
[04:44] <Godis> Someone who knows how to open RAR-files?
[04:44] <elkbuntu> ocult, i have no idea about soundcards
[04:44] <Tomcat_> Godis: Install some type on unrar or rar. :)
[04:44] <sbassett516> Dark-Knight: no problem. what does "mount" show from the terminal
[04:44] <elkbuntu> ocult, but others here will, and when they finish with people who asked before you, they will move on to you
[04:44] <curley_sue> soundray, no, XP is on a third partition (NTFS), the one deleted using rm is a FAT32 (used for archives) and I have a linux partition which is ext3 I belive (Dapper)
[04:44] <mythica> could someone tell me how to unpack a .tz file ?
[04:44] <Tomcat_> Godis: Like unrar-nonfree
[04:44] <doms> how to use report
[04:45] <orbin> mythica: use nautilus, or tar zxf <file>
[04:45] <elkbuntu> mythica, tar xvvzf filename.tz
[04:45] <Dark-Night> sbassett516 : alot of things
[04:45] <Tomcat_> doms: "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:45] <Godis> Where do I find it?
[04:45] <mythica> thanks guys
[04:45] <Tomcat_> Godis: unrar-nonfree is in multiverse
[04:46] <Tomcat_> !multiverse
[04:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:46] <maerk> hello, is this the place to ask for help with installing ubuntu?
[04:46] <Tomcat_> maerk: Absolutely.
[04:46] <soundray> curley_sue: deleting in fat filesystems works by removing the first two bytes from the filename in the fat (file allocation table) entry. So there is a chance to recover. I don't know about any linux utilities that do this though.
[04:46] <maerk> excellent!
[04:46] <orbin> ic56: i have a lost+found folder in the new partition.  is this necessary to keep?
[04:47] <ic56> orbin: Yes, it's *very* important.
[04:47] <doms> Package python2.3-xml is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:47] <curley_sue> soundray, is there a way ,after deleting using linux, to recover using XP?
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> it is? i always found it getting remade if needed.
[04:47] <Godis> I dont understand, I am not to smart about ubuntu...
[04:47] <orbin> ic56: lucky i asked then :)
[04:47] <|lostbyte|> how to make an initrd under ubuntu ?
[04:48] <ic56> orbin: lost+found is where fsck (the filesystem checker, which is run when you boot, if you didn't shutdown cleanly) will place any files it discovers which had become unlinked from their parent directories.
[04:48] <Chris_Tucker> whats the equivilant of mkpasswd?
[04:48] <maerk> i have two hard drives, and I'd like to install ubuntu on one of them without erasing any of the original data...
[04:48] <Dark-Night> sbassett516:ithink i need to reg my username before i can PM thast what the Ubuntu Servers are saying
[04:48] <soundray> curley_sue: earlier versions of Windows had an undelete utility. I don't know about XP. You can probably mount your XP partition and search for a file with undel in the name.
[04:48] <Yokalosh> how can i uninstall kde and all the dependencies it installed with it?
[04:48] <sbassett516> curley_sue: there is a prog called autopsy. This seems to work with vfat
[04:49] <ic56> orbin: if there's no lost+found directory, fsck can't re-attach the files it is able to glean from a corrupt filesystem.
[04:49] <_jason> Yokalosh: how did you install it?
[04:49] <Yokalosh> apt-get install kde
[04:49] <rinke> Yokalosh: sudo apt-get remove kde
[04:49] <Yokalosh> but that just removes kde and not all the programs it also downloaded
[04:49] <sbassett516> Dark-Knight: understood. Any rogue processes showing up under ps -A that might be locking the tray? Are you using gnome or kde?
[04:50] <_jason> Yokalosh: in the future you should try to use aptitude, it will remember dependencies that get installed with a package and act appropriately when you remove a package.  In your case you will have to eitehr use deborphan or remove a lib that kde things depend on, for example: libqt3-mt
[04:50] <Dark-Night> i'm useing Gnome I was listning to music but it stoped so i loaded up another music player and then it played again ... hmm 2 sec
[04:50] <mkoby> Hi all, I'm running Breezy through a KVM switch, and the only thing that the resolution applet shows is 640x800, how do I change this?  It used to let me use 1024x768 before I got a KVM.
[04:51] <curley_sue> soundray, sbassett516, is it for linux or XP, is it free, how is it used, is it safe to reboot without risking loosing the deleted file? (sorry for the loads of Qs)
[04:51] <Yokalosh> thnx _jason
[04:51] <maerk> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a partition of my hard drive, how can i do this without erasing any of the data it alread contains?
[04:51] <sbassett516> curley_sue: autopsy is for linux, free of course.
[04:51] <mkoby> maerk: In the installer, if you go to the size on any partition, it will usually let you change it non-destructively.
[04:51] <tacticalcron> Howdy all..
[04:52] <yereth> guys.. I just removed my /boot partition and added /boot on my main partition with all the original contents, so nothing changed in that way. Should I do anything but "update-grub"?
[04:52] <ic56> orbin: every filesystem has *one* lost+found directory.  If /home doesn't have such a directory, it's either not a separate filesystem, or someone deleted it and will later regret it :-)
[04:52] <soundray> curley_sue: you can probably find the kind of tool you need on the ultimate boot cd (http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/)
[04:52] <sbassett516> Dark-Knight: what prog where you using for music the first time? Was it accessing the rom drive, what prog second?
[04:52] <yereth> so will grub now know what partition my kernels etc are on?
[04:52] <orbin> ic56: yep, found it in /home ... was looking in /home/username :-S
[04:52] <maerk> mkoby: i got that far and got scared :) is there any sort of walkthrough available somewhere?
[04:53] <mkoby> maerk: If there is, I don't know about it (sorry).
[04:53] <|lostbyte|> how to make an initrd under ubuntu ?
[04:53] <mumbles_laptop> ok all - i am having trouble using make install
[04:54] <yereth> well, thanx anyway
[04:54] <mumbles_laptop> i get a make: command not found
[04:54] <mumbles_laptop> eroer
[04:54] <nemoo> hi all
[04:54] <mkoby> mumbles_laptop: sudo apt-get install make
[04:54] <mkoby> mumbles_laptop: though I could be wrong.
[04:54] <nemoo> after LVM I get the error: *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list 0x00000.....
[04:54] <orbin> ic56: can i safely chmod the properties of the folder?
[04:54] <tacticalcron> mumbles - apt-get install build-essential
[04:54] <nemoo> someone had something similar?
[04:55] <ic56> orbin: you mean the lost+found directory?
[04:55] <Dark-Night> I was useing 'CD Player' First and then 'Music player' which i tryed to copy some tracks but it was taking to long so i decied to end the copying 1/2 throu a track
[04:55] <maerk> would it be possible to get windows to create the partition, then have the ubuntu linux install onto that partition?
[04:55] <orbin> ic56: yes
[04:55] <Dark-Night> maerk : yes
[04:56] <sbassett516> Dark-Night: looks like it got exclusive access to /dev/hdc. Try "sudo eject /dev/hdc"
[04:56] <maerk> Dark-Night: hooray! should i create more than one partition? I.e. for the swap?
[04:56] <ic56> orbin: yes, you can. fsck bypasses filesystem permissions.  However, the default permissions are well chosen and for good reasons.  What did you want to change them to and why?
[04:56] <tacticalcron> You should have a /swap that is twice the installed RAM.
[04:56] <tacticalcron> Some people like creating /home on a separate partition.
[04:56] <stevietool> my mplayer plugin plays in schocks with wmv files? Is that normal?
[04:57] <orbin> ic56: i noticed the l+f folders on / and /home did not have big red crosses on them.  the one on /backup does
[04:57] <ayabara> I'm formatting an 143086 byte partition to ext3. before I start it says 14287 is used. Is it supposed to be so much overhead?
[04:57] <|lostbyte|> how to make an initrd under ubuntu ?
[04:57] <ic56> orbin: red crosses?  Hang on, let me see
[04:57] <orbin> ic56: in nautilus i meant
[04:58] <orbin> ic56: it signifies root ownership and a chmod flag of 700
[04:58] <Dark-Night> sbassett516: i did  "sudo eject /dev/hdc" and it said "unable to find or open device for: `/dev/hdc'
[04:58] <Dark-Night> "
[04:58] <tacticalcron> mumbles - that is correct.  :-)
[04:58] <sbassett516> Dark-Night: regular ide cdrom drive?
[04:58] <Dark-Night> maerk: yeah you should creat two partitions one for Ubuntu and one for the swap around 250Mb - 300Mb
[04:59] <Dark-Night> sbassett516: yeah IDE Primery, i think. DVD-RW
[04:59] <Godis> Where can I find a program that can lock up my RAR files free?
[04:59] <doms> python2.3-xml
[04:59] <doms> missing
[05:00] <maerk> mkoby and Dark-Night: thanks for your help, i hope I can get this working :D
[05:00] <Dark-Night> good luck
[05:00] <orbin> Godis: just install the rar packages and i think you can set a pswd w/ file-roller.
[05:00] <maerk> thanks, probably be back here before long ;)
[05:00] <sbassett516> Dark-Night: Primary??? What type of hdd do you have?
[05:01] <orbin> ic56: nvm.  it's just an aesthetic thing i was wondering about
[05:01] <ic56> orbin: ah, I get it.  a folder in red with an "x" in it is Nautilus's way of sayin you lack access to that folder.
[05:01] <Dark-Night> sbassett516: oh sorry primary on IDE2 HDD is one IDE1 as Primery
[05:01] <tacticalcron> Any Xubuntu/Dapper users out there?
[05:01] <Dark-Night> sbassett516: oh sorry primary on IDE2 HDD is on IDE1 as Primery*
[05:01] <mumbles_laptop> how do i find out what kernel virsion i have ?
[05:01] <bigbill50> i am having a problem with my directory in terminal mode i can see it with ls command but cannot change to it because i get an error no such file or dir
[05:01] <tacticalcron> mumbles - uname -a
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> tacticalcron,  twiddling with it now. :P
[05:01] <ic56> orbin: that is the correct permission: 700.
[05:01] <orbin> ic56: yes, i also couldn't see how many items were in the folder in list view.  but like i said, purely aesthetic
[05:02] <sbassett516> Dark-Night: So this would be the Master drive on the Secondary controller, correct?
[05:02] <scifi> hey guys i have downloaded a .run file, how do i run it ? :P
[05:02] <orbin> ic56: i actually changed it to 755 to match the other 2.  i'll change it back
[05:02] <ic56> orbin: exactly: an ordinary user *shouldn't* be able to view the contents of the lost+found folder.  That's because *any* file could end up in there -- including sensitive files.
[05:03] <Dark-Night> sbassett516: Correct
[05:03] <orbin> ic56: i see
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> scifi,  egads.. :P thats such a FAQ. :P   what is the file ya grabbed anyway?     'chmod +x whtever.run' ' ./whatever.run'
[05:03] <yereth> guys, I have trouble with booting the new kernel
[05:03] <yereth> when I boot it, I get this:
[05:03] <made> I can play wmv videos but all I get is sound.. no video?
[05:03] <scifi> Dr_Willis: its armyops250-linux.run
[05:03] <yereth> VFS: cannot open root device "HDA7" or unknown-block(0,0)
[05:03] <yereth> please append a correct "root=" boot option
[05:04] <orbin> made: what player?
[05:04] <yereth> kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[05:04] <made> I have installed the w32 codecs and I'm using totem 1.2.1
[05:04] <yereth> but my old kernel, 2.6.12-10-k7, boots fine
[05:04] <orbin> made: oh, is this dapper?
[05:04] <_jason> made: are you using totem-xine?
[05:04] <ic56> orbin: I see on my own recently created filesystems that several lost+found directories were created with perms 755.  That's a security risk, but apparently the mkfs developers don't think so..
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> scifi then   'chmod +x whtever.run' ' ./whatever.run'  should do it for ya
[05:04] <made> breezy
[05:04] <yereth> I installed the new kernel with apt-get and ran update-grub
[05:05] <stevietool> I wanna stream wmv and it plays in shocks with mozilla-plugin in firefox ??
[05:05] <yereth> can anyone help me?
[05:05] <Dark-Night> sbassett516: Would it be ok if i where to just use a paper clip?
[05:05] <made> no just totem
[05:05] <_jason> made: try totem-xine
[05:05] <sbassett516> Dark-Night: as long as it is not being accessed, yes.
[05:05] <made> should I use totem-xine?
[05:05] <made> ok
[05:05] <yereth> ANYONE, please?
[05:05] <Dark-Night> sbassett516: The light is off and i cant hear anything moveing in there, so i hope so
[05:05] <sbassett516> Dark-Night: I would reboot after that though.
[05:05] <scifi> ok its "verifying archive integrity...."
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> yereth,  so its just the new kernel that dont work?
[05:06] <yereth> Dr_Willis: every new kernel I installed the last months
[05:06] <sbassett516> Dark-Night: It should be showing up as an entry within /dev/
[05:06] <mumbles_laptop> ok all - i am trying to install ndiswraper using instructions from http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation and ai am getting make[1] : Entering directory `/home/mumbles/Desktop/ndiswrapper-1.15/driver'
[05:06] <mumbles_laptop> Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build;
[05:06] <mumbles_laptop>   give the path to kernel build directory with
[05:06] <mumbles_laptop>   KBUILD=<path> argument to make
[05:06] <mumbles_laptop> make[1] : *** [prereq_check]  Error 1
[05:06] <_jason> !paste
[05:06] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[05:06] <scifi> All good, now uncompressing :)
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> yereth,  now thats just odd. what do they 'fail' to do?
[05:06] <scifi> ty
[05:06] <yereth> Dr_Willis: in menu.lst the line is exactly the same for the old and new kernel
[05:06] <Dark-Night> sbassett516: yeah i will reboot, but im downlaodeing ubuntu 6.06 Liev :D lol
[05:06] <yereth> well, what I pasted above
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> yereth,  the except for the change in the kernel file name. :P right?
[05:07] <christophe> slt qui peut m aider
[05:07] <qiv> hello, anyone an idea about how to make ntfs-partition writable? :)
[05:07] <yereth> Dr_Willis: yes :P
[05:07] <yereth> Dr_Willis: 16:45 < yereth> VFS: cannot open root device "HDA7" or unknown-block(0,0)
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> yereth,  and your root is on hda7 ?
[05:07] <yereth> 16:45 < yereth> please append a correct "root=" boot option
[05:07] <yereth> yes
[05:07] <yereth> 16:45 < yereth> kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[05:07] <kman> hi
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> yereth,  what file system is your root partition ?
[05:08] <yereth> ext3
[05:08] <kman> I'm a newbie nad need some help
[05:08] <sbassett516> yereth: I have been reading issues like this in the forums. Have not experienced this myself.
[05:08] <Dark-Night> sbassett516: Its got no power going to it :/
[05:08] <yereth> sbassett516: any clue about a solution?
[05:08] <scifi> Dr_Willis: i get "no write permission" to the install directory when installing armyops ^^
[05:08] <orbin> kman: welcome. ask away
[05:08] <sbassett516> Dark-Night: Even after reboot?
[05:08] <Dark-Night> sbassett516: thank you very much for your help and time :D
[05:09] <Dark-Night> sbassett516: no im on 80% on my torrent
[05:09] <yereth> Dr_Willis: ext3, in case you didn't see
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> yereth,  hmm odd.. could try one of the 686 kenels and see if it works there.. almost sounds like the thing is lacking the ext3 modules. but that would be real odd.
[05:09] <Dark-Night> sbassett516; it should work tho after a good reboot
[05:09] <stevietool> is it normal that wmv plays in shocks with mozilla plugin? Does anyone how to deal with it?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> scifi,  tell it to install to your home dir then.
[05:09] <yereth> Dr_Willis: it would be odd.. should I install from source using apt, perhaps?
[05:09] <sbassett516> yereth: the only solution that was offered up was to modify the menu.lst file on each upgrade
[05:09] <_jason> stevietool: what plugin are you using?
[05:09] <yereth> sbassett516: modify how?
[05:09] <sbassett516> Dark-Night: No prob at all.
[05:10] <Dark-Night> sbassett516; :D
[05:10] <stevietool> _jason: mplayer plugin
[05:10] <yereth> sbassett516: I mean, the root drive is indicated correctly in menu.lst
[05:10] <kman> I installed ubuntu 5.10, and when i boot there is no interface detected (no even loopback)
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> yereth,  these are all issues with the *-k7 kernele?
[05:10] <curley_sue> sbassett516 I guess I need some more help... is there a way to create an image of the patition with the lost files?
[05:10] <ayabara> any filesystem gurus here?
[05:10] <_jason> stevietool: does it do it with all .wmv?
[05:10] <yereth> Dr_Willis: my 2 kernels:
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> yereth,  may be worth wile to post your menu.lst to pastebin. so others can look at it.
[05:10] <delcoyote> hi if trying to install easycam2 and i get an eror no module: gnome.ui is that i havent got gnome desktop installed? im on ubuntulite and icewm
[05:10] <yereth> ah yes
[05:10] <yereth> hold on
[05:11] <feistel> hi
[05:11] <feistel> I have a problem with my USB Mouse and Keyb
[05:11] <feistel> lsusb show them
[05:11] <sbassett516> curley_sue: if it is mounted it would be dd if=/mount/point of=/home/yourname/imagename.img or some such. what kind of image is it looking for? Also, this could take up a lot of room
[05:11] <kman> RESENDING: I installed ubuntu 5.10, and when i boot there is no interface detected (no even loopback)
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. xfce4 just crashed. :) brb
[05:11] <feistel> but when I cat /proc/bus/input/devices, nothing
[05:12] <feistel> any suggest ?
[05:12] <scifi> Dr_Willis: iits asking about symbolic links now, those r like shortcus arent they? shall i ask it to make one on the desktop ?
[05:12] <yereth> sbassett516: http://pastebin.com/690435
[05:13] <mythica> how do you rename a directory from shell ?
[05:13] <kman> any idea??
[05:13] <orbin> mythica: mv <dir> <newdirname>
[05:13] <kman> how can I get the 127.0.0.1 up?
[05:13] <sbassett516> yereth brb
[05:13] <yereth> alright
[05:13] <curley_sue> sbassett516, I haven't been asked for an image, just thought it would be a good idea b4 playing around with that partition. I haven't made muxh progress, installed autopsy and could not figure out what to do
[05:14] <stevietool> _jason: I think so; on this time I get even a blue screen while testing a stream
[05:14] <kman> orbin? can you help?
[05:14] <_jason> stevietool: do you get the blue screen with other file types?
[05:14] <orbin> kman: er, not w/ network issues, no.  sorry
[05:15] <mumbles_laptop> ok i am having wireless card problmes
[05:15] <mumbles_laptop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13149  - i am trying to install ndiswrapper and am getting that
[05:15] <kman> anyone else can help?
[05:15] <mumbles_laptop> so ican then use ndiswrapper to get my wireless card working
[05:15] <TheUni> i'm doing a fresh install of ubuntu on an a64 system. should i use the a64 version? or is x86 easier to use/maintain ?
[05:16] <mythica> i am trying to cp a directory over but it keeps saying the directory has been ommited?
[05:16] <mythica> any ideas?
[05:16] <orbin> TheUni: iirc, no flash on x64
[05:16] <TheUni> no flash?
[05:16] <mythica> btw- thanks orbin
[05:17] <orbin> mythica: pastebin the full command you're using and the error output
[05:17] <kuchiki> need help please im looking for a command to know whois connected on my wifi connexion
[05:17] <mythica> ok
[05:17] <scifi> This americas army taking a while to install ^^
[05:17] <kuchiki> a command or a tool maybe
[05:17] <mumbles_laptop> etherreal
[05:18] <mythica> http://pastebin.com/690446
[05:18] <mythica> is cp only for files? Not folders?
[05:18] <sbassett516> yereth: your menu.lst matches up with your /etc/fstab, correct?
[05:19] <nwonknu> mythica, its for both
[05:19] <mythica> hmm, why would it be generating that error then ?
[05:19] <kman> why cant linux work out of the box???
[05:19] <nwonknu> i dont know what error i have only just joined
[05:19] <macho_> any body using 64 bit
[05:20] <elkbuntu> is anyone aware of a non web-based invoicing program for linux?
[05:20] <orbin> kman: is this wirelss or  adsl ... or something else?
[05:21] <kman> I have no interfaces up! not even the loopback (127.0.0.1)
[05:21] <IceTox> What's the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu? :-)
[05:21] <kman> i cant run sudo because of it
[05:21] <baconbacon> xubuntu: ubuntu w/ XFCE
[05:21] <mikomiko> what is the mp3 player for ubuntu
[05:21] <baconbacon> instead of GNOME
[05:21] <Dark-Night> isent  xubuntu something to do with education?
[05:22] <baconbacon> thats edubuntu
[05:22] <Dark-Night> ah
[05:22] <orbin> mythica: you need to use -r apparently
[05:22] <nwonknu> xubuntu is just a different desktop manager?
[05:22] <orbin> mythica: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/dirman.html
[05:22] <|lostbyte|> how to make an initrd under ubuntu ?
[05:22] <onduletoncerveau> oups dsl
[05:22] <mythica> what does -r do ?
[05:22] <IceTox> Ok, and I can try this by simply apt-get install xubuntu ?
[05:22] <nwonknu> -r = recursive
[05:22] <baconbacon> yes, you can install xubuntu-desktop
[05:22] <mythica> cool ill do that
[05:22] <mythica> thanks guys
[05:22] <IceTox> and if I wanna go back I can just apt-get install ubuntu-dektop ?
[05:22] <orbin> mythica: wait a sec
[05:22] <Dark-Night> me too
[05:22] <baconbacon> doesnt work that way...
[05:22] <scifi> is XFCE meant to be a slicker/faster desktop environment ?
[05:23] <elkbuntu> IceTox, you'll have a choice when you boot up
[05:23] <mythica> another question: How do you list all harddrives & devices etc... (both mounted and unmounted)
[05:23] <IceTox> ok
[05:23] <leagris> scifi, it does
[05:23] <TheUni> mythica: sudo fdisk -l
[05:23] <IceTox> thanks elkbuntu and baconbacon
[05:23] <hollywoodb> scifi: basically... xfce is nice.  not as fully-featured as kde or gnome, but both kde and gnome apps will run fine under xfce
[05:23] <mythica> awesome thanks TheUni
[05:23] <scifi> i see, may try it sometime then
[05:24] <nwonknu> anyone know the best latest repositories aint modified any ina  while
[05:24] <scifi> so if i did try it, id just get ubuntu and then ubuntu (XCFE) in grub ?
[05:24] <sbassett516> curley_sue: don't know if this will help you out any, http://www.sleuthkit.org/autopsy/
[05:24] <mikomiko> what is the mp3 player for ubuntu
[05:25] <IceTox> mikomiko, that is xmms in usual I think
[05:25] <hollywoodb> scifi: you can install xfce alongside gnome under ubuntu... 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' then select it at login instead of gnome
[05:25] <Dark-Night> apt-get install xubuntu dosent work with me :/ lol 'Couldn't stat source package'
[05:25] <mythica> i always chuckle when i have to run "man mount"
[05:25] <Dark-Night> it dose that with loads of things
[05:25] <mythica> one of my favorites
[05:25] <qualus> lol
[05:25] <Dark-Night> ha
[05:25] <stevietool> _jason: well I got a hole bench of blue screens...it worked 10 minutes ago but ik played in shocks
[05:25] <IceTox> mikomiko, if the player isn't in the menu, you can simply download it using 'apt-get install xmms'
[05:25] <scifi> hollywoodb: ah so it wud give me the choice at login screen? ok nice
[05:25] <hollywoodb> scifi: you may end up having xfce apps in your gnome menu and vice versa, so a little menu editing may be in order
[05:26] <hollywoodb> scifi: same goes for kde (kubuntu-desktop)
[05:26] <scifi> kewl
[05:26] <qualus> what's so great about Xubuntu, compared to say Ubuntu and Kubuntu ?
[05:26] <scifi> well i was playing around with kpovmodeler (KDE) app and that runs fine under gnome :)
[05:26] <baconbacon> mainly lightweight and faster
[05:27] <hollywoodb> qualus: just a different desktop environment, xfce
[05:27] <mikomiko> have done now
[05:27] <mikomiko> how can i runt he program
[05:27] <kimrhh> hi, can one change the brown and boring bootsplash to something else ?
[05:27] <qualus> aye, knew that... hmm
[05:27] <Dark-Night-awy> ttfn
[05:28] <qualus> wonder if i can get all three environments running nicely with eachother ?
[05:28] <stevietool> _jason: it stops and plays but only with sound at the moment...I followed the steps on the wiki of restricted formats
[05:28] <qualus> already got KDE and GNOME
[05:28] <hollywoodb> qualus: xubuntu-desktop package.  should work fine
[05:28] <qualus> apt-get , right ?
[05:28] <mikael> Hi, I have problems with my keyboard; the other variant of [{ do not work <AltGr>-9 and <AltGr>-0 print 9 and 0 in all my programs instead of the parantheses? anybody got some ideas?
[05:28] <mikomiko> IceTox, I have done the installation, how do i run the program?
[05:28] <Godis> Now I have installed something "rar" in tje synaptic.. What to do now?
[05:28] <hollywoodb> qualus: yep
[05:29] <kman> RESENDING: I installed ubuntu 5.10, and when i boot there is no interface detected (not even loopback), any ideas?
[05:29] <IceTox> mikomiko, if you ran it by apt-get install, the xmms should be located in your menu under 'sound and video'
[05:30] <Godis> Swedish Chef. Do you speak Swedish?
[05:30] <qualus> hmm.. doesn't work O_o
[05:31] <ketchup> hi
[05:31] <qualus> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop <- no luck with that one
[05:31] <mikomiko> does not seems to be running, i clicked it twice
[05:31] <DBO> qualus, have you enabled universe repos?
[05:31] <qualus> yup
[05:31] <ketchup> what's the shell command to load new keyboard map??? kbxmap or something
[05:32] <qualus> E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <DBO> qualus using 5.10?
[05:32] <gnomefreak> !info xubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <ketchup> xkbmap
[05:32] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[05:32] <Godis> Please help me
[05:32] <gnomefreak> qualus: make sure you have the universe repos enabled
[05:33] <DBO> what wrong Godis
[05:33] <mythica> i have installed captive-ntfs and mounted my drive using it so i can write to ntfs
[05:33] <qualus> booting synaptic now
[05:33] <mythica> but how would i make it auto mount with captive-ntfs on boot?
[05:33] <ketchup> no-one know how to map new keyboard??
[05:33] <froh> why does totem refuse to play mp3's even after i installed gstreamer0.8-mad and ran gst-register-0.8 both as root and user?
[05:33] <Godis> Im trying to play a RAR file but I dont know how to do..
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> ketchup,  clarify that question.
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[05:34] <ubotu> [rar]  a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:34] <gnomefreak> froh: try using totem-xine
[05:34] <ketchup> i changed keyb to FR but doesn't want to reboot
[05:34] <Godis> I installed somthing from Synaptic but it does not work anyway..
[05:34] <DBO> Godis, you mean extract a RAR?
[05:34] <ketchup> there's a console command that updates the keyboard
[05:34] <mikomiko> I see it now in the menu but dont know how to run it, is it just by clicking it twice
[05:34] <mikomiko> or is there a command for that
[05:34] <Godis> Yes that is what I meen =D
[05:35] <ketchup> and it's something like xkbmap but i don't remember
[05:35] <DBO> mythica, are you sure its using the captive NTFS driver?
[05:35] <mythica> yup
[05:35] <froh> gnomefreak: stupid, but it does work
[05:35] <feistel> hi
[05:35] <mythica> Yeah 100% sure - how else would i be able to write to the system?
[05:35] <froh> gnomefreak: thanks
[05:35] <DBO> odd, as far as I knew captive was broke in ubuntu
[05:35] <mythica> its ntfs :p
[05:35] <feistel> I need help with udevd and USB devices
[05:36] <gnomefreak> froh: yw
[05:36] <qualus> damnit..
[05:36] <feistel> I have 2 keyboards and 2 mouse (2 PS/2 and 2 USB)
[05:36] <Godis> DBO, yes I mean extract a RAR
[05:36] <qualus> how do i enable the universe repositories ?
[05:36] <feistel> the problem is
[05:36] <ketchup> Dr_Willis ??
[05:36] <feistel> both mouse and keyboards is associate to same /dev/ file
[05:37] <gnomefreak> !universe
[05:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:37] <feistel> any suggest?
[05:37] <DBO> Godis, I believe the command is "unrar /path/to/file.rar" but you must have installed unrar first
[05:37] <kman> RESENDING: I installed ubuntu 5.10, and when i boot there is no interface detected (not even loopback), any ideas?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> ketchup,  somthing ive never delt with..  id advise checking the forums and wiki.
[05:37] <Godis> DBO; Where can I find unrar?
[05:38] <DBO> Godis, "sudo apt-get install unrar"
[05:38] <ketchup> k
[05:38] <kuchiki> 
[05:38] <kuchiki> nope
[05:38] <kuchiki> sudo apt-get install rar
[05:39] <ailean> I was looking for help with an error in evolution - Cannot get message <hex>: Input/output error - it's stopping me from getting my mail. Can anyone help?
[05:39] <Godis> DBO, What is Sudo? I am not very good at this, but I want to learn it..
[05:39] <mirak> I want to install a system with LVM so I just need /boot partition plus LVM partition, so I am wondering if there is any interest I create an extended partition
[05:39] <DBO> nope "sudo apt-get install unrar-free"
[05:40] <DBO> Godis, sudo gives you administrator rights to your machine for the one command you execute so you can do things like install software
[05:40] <DBO> it will ask for your password to verify you are who you think you are
[05:40] <morphix> unrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files
[05:40] <morphix> if anyone EVER bothers to use apt-cache search
[05:40] <DBO> morphix, yes, thats what I used to get it...
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[05:40] <ubotu> somebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:41] <Steff_breezy> hello, this time I have a question concerning the pager (or workspace switcher) of gnome: is there a possibility to give it transparency or at least change the grey background colour?
[05:41] <kevin1> What plugin do I need for Juk to play mp3s?  I have mp3 support in other programs, just cannot get Juk to play them.
[05:42] <HymnToLife> hey people, do you need swap on a server ?
[05:42] <DBO> Steff_breezy, if you have compiz you can, otherwise wait for dapper
[05:42] <DBO> HymnToLife, YES
[05:42] <nwonknu> ive just tried installing gstreamer0.8 and it seems to have crashed, when i try install another package nor it tells me to run dpkg --configure -a
[05:42] <Steff_breezy> DBO, compiz, whats that?
[05:42] <nwonknu> which doesnt do too much
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> HymnToLife,  512mb of swap never hurts :P
[05:43] <HymnToLife> hmmm ok, thanks
[05:43] <DBO> Steff_breezy, it always things to become transparent (like for real, none of this fake trasparency we currently have)
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> transparency - the next generation of useless eye candy. :P
[05:43] <Steff_breezy> DBO, it would be ok for me if I could just change the colour
[05:44] <Chris_Tucker> how do you change the group of a file?
[05:44] <_jason> Chris_Tucker: chgrp
[05:44] <DBO> Steff_breezy, im not much of an eye-candy type, but I dont think you can
[05:44] <Chris_Tucker> _jason, ty
[05:45] <stevietool> _jason: I got video now but the audio runs faster
[05:45] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone here tell me why my wireless card is no longer working using the same technique I succesfully used on two seperate occassions?
[05:45] <Steff_breezy> does maybe someone else know how to change the background colour of the workspace-switcher?
[05:45] <_jason> stevietool: does it happen on local media with mplayer?
[05:45] <DBO> monomaniacpat, weren't we using NDISwrapper with you?
[05:46] <stevietool> _jason: no with streaming
[05:46] <ailean> Steff_breezy, can it wait until dapper? or would you consider upgrading?
[05:46] <monomaniacpat> DBO: no.
[05:46] <simplydazed> Steff_breezy: stuff, just remove it from the panel and use ALT + arrow key to change workspaces
[05:46] <stevietool> _jason: within firefox
[05:46] <DBO> monomaniacpat, ok, my mistake, can you describe the problem better?
[05:46] <_jason> stevietool: but does it also happen on local media or _only_ with streaming?
[05:46] <monomaniacpat> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=971223#post971223 - this might do it.
[05:47] <Steff_breezy> ailean, I have just upgraded to breezy :)
[05:48] <ailean> Steff_breezy, why not upgrade to dapper (in June, if you like)?
[05:48] <ailean> Steff_breezy, it's still in testing atm
[05:49] <Steff_breezy> simplydazed, hmm, this idea is also worth thinking about, I could use the shortcuts ALT x, ALT y, ALT c to switch. Are these shortcuts maybe occupied by another function?
[05:49] <devnu112> what is the general status of pci-x graphics adapters in linux?
[05:50] <DBO> devnu112, work fine
[05:50] <devnu112> hmm
[05:50] <devnu112> must be something with mysetup then
[05:50] <devnu112> 6.06 will not load X
[05:50] <qualus> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or something similar. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[05:50] <simplydazed> Steff_breezy: no idea, check the Keyboard shortcuts
[05:50] <qualus> i'm getting that now O_o
[05:51] <Steff_breezy> ok, Ill try this and that, thanks for your help
[05:51] <Steff_breezy> cu
[05:51] <qualus> damnit, what am i doing wrong !?
[05:51] <TheUni> what would the speed difference btw a64 and x86 builds be? i'm running the x86 for compat reasons
[05:51] <DBO> qualus, what did you do?
[05:51] <devnu112> it seems to have tried to load the Mach 64 module for my X800 GTO card heh
[05:51] <apokryphos> TheUni: significant
[05:51] <apokryphos> TheUni: what compatible reasons?
[05:51] <qualus> i tried enabling the universe and multiverse repositories according to the wiki
[05:51] <macho> is anyone use linux 64 bit
[05:51] <apokryphos> macho: yes
[05:51] <devnu112> macho: im trhing :\
[05:51] <TheUni> i understand not all packages are avail for a64
[05:52] <qualus> in adept
[05:52] <DBO> TheUni, if you have a relatively fast computer, the speed difference for a desktop environment is minimal
[05:52] <qualus> and now it won't start
[05:52] <qualus> the bugger
[05:52] <macho> apo: can u hlp me
[05:52] <apokryphos> theSamo: only flash, wmv9, really.
[05:52] <apokryphos> * TheUni
[05:52] <srs> Howdy. Probably a faq - but I just upgraded to dapper
[05:52] <TheUni> apokryphos: that was me i guess?
[05:52] <TheUni> ok
[05:52] <TheUni> mm.. i can live without those i guess
[05:52] <mumbles_laptop> ok all - how do i download th source for ubuntu ?
[05:52] <macho> i need some help in the 64 bit
[05:52] <apokryphos> TheUni: and note these *would* work on amd64 just fine, but the problem is down to debian and ubuntu's own way of handling amd64
[05:52] <srs> and murasaki replaces both hotplug and udev
[05:53] <macho> software installation
[05:53] <DBO> mumbles, "sudo apt-get install linux-tree"
[05:53] <macho> where to find
[05:53] <apokryphos> amd64s are perfectly capable of executing 32-bit libraries/apps on 64-bit installation
[05:53] <kman> RESENDING: I installed ubuntu 5.10, and when i boot there is no interface detected (not even loopback), any ideas?
[05:53] <srs> devfs is out of 2.6.15 as well
[05:53] <mumbles_laptop> i am following http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo and i keep on getting a errer
[05:53] <macho> apo: are u ther
[05:53] <mumbles_laptop> sudo apt-get install linux-tree
[05:53] <mumbles_laptop> whops
[05:53] <nwonknu> hi ive used apt-get to install a package which appeared to crash, whenever i run it again it tells me to run dpkg --configure -a which causes it to try install again and crashes again
[05:53] <nwonknu> anyone any suggestions of how i can tell it not to install it anymore so i can install other packages
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> km0ti0n,  check the wiki/forums yet?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> oops
[05:53] <TheUni> guess i'll try a64 then
[05:53] <srs> so agpgart etc dont get loaded - there goes X
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> kman,   check the wiki/forums yet?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> kman,   sounds almost like a bad cd burn.. or some other odd hardware issue.
[05:54] <srs> and then /var/lock/subsys/murasaki doesnt get created either
[05:54] <srs> so i manually create it at each boot, restart murasaki
[05:54] <srs> and then it picks up my ipw2200
[05:54] <mumbles_laptop> DBO,  Makefile.inc:95: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[05:54] <mumbles_laptop> 
[05:54] <kman> it is a genuine ubuntu cd
[05:54] <kman> setup was successful
[05:54] <TheUni> apokryphos: so if i'm installing fresh, i should use a64 over x86 ?
[05:55] <macho> the uni
[05:55] <DBO> mumbles, is that what you get when you install linux-tree?
[05:55] <macho> can u help ,e
[05:55] <mumbles_laptop> no that installs fine
[05:55] <srs> any ideas? this was an apt-get dist-upgrade (after a update-manager -d) from breezy + kde 3.5.2
[05:55] <mumbles_laptop> thats what happens when i try and install the madwifi drivers
[05:55] <TheUni> macho: why dont you just ask your question?
[05:55] <DBO> TheUni, if you are comfortable with linux, go for it, but if you might still call yourself a n00b, might be worth saving yourself the trouble
[05:55] <TheUni> heh
[05:56] <apokryphos> TheUni: for ubuntu: yes of course, unless you desperately want flash.
[05:56] <mumbles_laptop> http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[05:56] <kman> Dr_Willis: this is an original ubuntu CD, setup completed successfully
[05:56] <macho> i need direct interaction.
[05:56] <apokryphos> TheUni: for some other distros: absolutely no reason why you wouldn't.
[05:56] <macho> some failed to continue
[05:56] <TheUni> DBO: i'm trying to grow out of newbness. i figure trying something harder will help me learn
[05:56] <TheUni> i'm comfortable where i am now. been running ubuntu for a couple months now
[05:56] <DBO> TheUni, personally I would suggest you try installing a k7 core
[05:56] <DBO> kernel*
[05:57] <srs> i'm a jackass - should have done this on my desktop PC (which is basically throwaway and has windows as a backstop, just in case)
[05:57] <macho> i installed psi now using kpackage. the result is o . i dont know how to start it
[05:57] <srs> help, guys
[05:57] <TheUni> DBO: ok
[05:57] <timmy_> Can I ask if anyone here has any experience with dual monitors?
[05:57] <TheUni> timmy_: i'm running 2 right now.
[05:57] <monomaniacpat> DBO: here's a full transcript of what I have done: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=971266#post971266
[05:57] <timmy_> I am running an IBM R40 laptop with an ATI 7500
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> kman,  you mean by setup - that it 'installed' ?
[05:57] <timmy_> I use the generic drivers because ati doesnt' support the 7500
[05:58] <DBO> TheUni, try installing some stuff you compile from source into the /opt/ folder (so as not to overright stuff from apt)
[05:58] <Jemt> timmy_: Yes, it sucks in Ubuntu
[05:58] <mumbles_laptop> DBO,  - any ideas on what i have to do ?
[05:58] <DBO> timmy_, if you have ATI, its hard, if you have nVidia, its pie
[05:58] <timmy_> I don't have to run dual monitors, I have a 15" lcd that would be fun to have
[05:58] <TheUni> DBO: what's OPT for ?
[05:58] <srs> optional packages
[05:58] <timmy_> that's what I thought from reading the forums
[05:58] <devnu112> kinda curious about dual monitors myself, once i get X to even work. does it support seperate resolution on each monitor, and still run 3d games on one of em? (ATI card)
[05:58] <srs> stuff you can just throw in
[05:58] <qualus> !repositories
[05:58] <Jemt> timmy_: Yea, as DBO says - I got ATI and it's close to impossible :)
[05:58] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:59] <TheUni> ah, ok
[05:59] <srs> or you could stick it into /usr/local/ as well
[05:59] <timmy_> i am a linux newbi to boot
[05:59] <srs> the ubuntu debs will put stuff in /usr/bin
[05:59] <DBO> TheUni, think of it as a place to put all your extra, optional programs
[05:59] <qualus> !easysource
[05:59] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:59] <timmy_> haha, so I have that going against me too!
[05:59] <TheUni> ok
[05:59] <mythica> were do you sewlect what starts on boot?
[05:59] <DBO> timmy_, its got better recently, but its still a little bit of a pain
[05:59] <TheUni> DBO: gotcha
[05:59] <kman> Dr_Willis: yep, install/setup you naem it. I can say that after logining in i get the followong message: "Could not look up internet address for machine. This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly. ..."
[06:00] <timmy_> I will keep the nvidia and ati thing in mind when I get a new laptop
[06:00] <Dark-Night-awy> bye all
[06:00] <timmy_> how are the onboard chips supported?  the Intel ones?
[06:00] <srs> onboard intel works just fine
[06:00] <Amaranth> more or less they just work
[06:00] <devnu112> oh i think i need a kernel patch for the sata 2 on my mobo too :\
[06:00] <Amaranth> might have to do a couple tweaks to get the right resolution
[06:01] <eddie_stone> how to install tcl?
[06:01] <monomaniacpat> Any ideas about my wireless anyone?
[06:01] <srs> apt-get install tcl i guess
[06:01] <srs> try that
[06:01] <eddie_stone> srs, Im not dumb
[06:01] <DBO> monomaniacpat, no idea, sry...
[06:01] <kevin1> What plugin do I need for Juk to play mp3s?  I have mp3 support in other programs, just cannot get Juk to play them.
[06:01] <devnu112> is there a list somewhere of the patches that have been applied to the default kernel on the cd?
[06:01] <timmy_> thanks for the advice, glad I came here second!  I could have wasted a lot of time with this!
[06:01] <number_six> hi all
[06:02] <DBO> hello number_six
[06:02] <monomaniacpat> can someone tell me how to uninsert modules and unmake a made module?
[06:02] <DBO> monomaniacpat, modprode -r <module name>
[06:02] <DBO> modprobe*
[06:02] <shammy> i'm trying to install ndiswrapper, but when i run make install, it returns an error saying  gcc-3.4 command not found, but i have gcc in there(it's gcc-4.0)
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> kman,  if you had POSTED that earlier :P  lol.. ive seen that when your /etc/hosts file does not have the  ip/name for your local machine.  Ive not seen it affect anythingunder gnome to be honest
[06:02] <monomaniacpat> is there a way of removing multiple modules with a similar name?
[06:03] <DBO> monomaniacpat, you could try using *... but I doubt it will work
[06:03] <monomaniacpat> OK.
[06:03] <whiter> what is the program name to "Configuration Editor"
[06:03] <whiter> the actual programs name...
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> kman,  for example in my hosts file -->  127.0.1.1       amd64     amd64
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> kman,  and amd64 is my machines name. set in some other file.. i forget.
[06:04] <eddie_stone> how do I change the local that I am (for example, Brazil)?
[06:04] <mythica> can someone help me with this error
[06:04] <mythica> http://pastebin.com/690514
[06:04] <kman> DR_Willis: I have 127.0.0.0.1 localhost (There is no use trying to modify the hosts file since i dont have permissions and sudo doesnt work because gethostbyname() fails)
[06:04] <ic56> how do I change the icons displayed in the GNOME panel?
[06:05] <DBO> ic56, you mean notification area or just ones you pin to the panel?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> kman,  ya could rerun the network config tools.   - ive never noticed sudo failing befor for that.  - you basicially need to just set a hostname.     i have 2 entrys for 127.0.0.1 ons for localhost and anotehr for the hostname.
[06:06] <ic56> DBO: I mean the mozilla and help icons (round earth and life-saver)
[06:06] <DBO> right click -> properties -> click on their icon
[06:06] <srs> anybody else got bit by the udev/hotplug to murasaki change?
[06:07] <DBO> [offtopic]  doesnt murasaki mean purple in japanese?
[06:07] <whiter> can someone open Configuration Editor and tell me the program's executable's name?
[06:07] <number_six> gconf-editor
[06:07] <AnAnt> I am upgrading from Breezy to Dapper using "update-manager -d", but it will take several hours to download, what will happen if I cancelled ?
[06:07] <Howitzer> How do i use apt-get to remove a package and ALL of it's unneeded dependencies?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[06:07] <ubotu> [apt-get]  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[06:08] <bigbill50> please help I am having trouble changing directory in the terminal mode. i can ls and see the directory but cannot get into it.
[06:08] <srs> murasaki?  well - google for "tale of genji"
[06:08] <AnAnt> Dr_Willis: you're in Ubuntu now !
[06:08] <devnu112> any pointers on getting a ATI X800 GTO pci-x card to work in dapper?
[06:08] <srs> i think thats what the guy got it from - and yes murasaki
[06:08] <kman> Dr_Willis: [warning: newbie question]  How do i rerun the network config tools?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> AnAnt,  im all over
[06:08] <DBO> devnu112, whats not working?
[06:08] <AnAnt> Dr_Willis: I remember seeing u in linuxhelp or linux
[06:08] <[koji] > help could not view youtube video on dapper?
[06:09] <number_six> First. Sorry 4 my terrible english.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> kman,  the menu items have them there. -   if it will let ya get to gnome that is...
[06:09] <ic56> DBO: thanks!  I notice the firefox icon in the "browse icons" pop up window is larger than the one displayed in the panel.  The reason I want to change icons is so I can get a smaller one in the panel.  Any ideas how come they're diff sizes and how to get one that's smaller still?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> !hostname
[06:09] <number_six> The problem: I have an Atto raid card and a couple of scsi hdd
[06:09] <eddie_stone> how do I change the local that I am (for example, Brazil)?
[06:09] <devnu112> DBO: it pukes, horribly. I look at the log and it seems as if it is trying to load the Mach64 module and of course complains that the device was not found (seems to be using the correct pci device ids)
[06:09] <blazemonger> anyone know why my mouse cursor sometimes fades out to all black
[06:09] <blazemonger> to where i can't see it
[06:09] <DBO> ic56, it just scales then, no idea how to scale one smaller short of making one with whitespace around the borders
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> kman,  type !hostname and read the bot msg. it mentions your exact problem. but not the fix. Lol
[06:10] <kman> !hostname
[06:10] <devnu112> I would save the log, but I havent gotten it to find the hard drive yet either
[06:10] <ic56> DBO: thanks.  I'll investigate further.
[06:10] <ruman> http://pastebin.com/690514
[06:11] <number_six> if any of the scsi drives attached to the system I can't boot because the kernel not find the root filesystem
[06:11] <edgardpacheco> hi people!
[06:11] <ruman> is it the module or my headers?
[06:11] <DBO> number_six, sounds like your hdd number is changing
[06:11] <whiter> okay, now anyone know what the nautilus program is called that handles/creates launchers?
[06:11] <edgardpacheco> how do i install the latest version of firefox?
[06:12] <MrPockets> so if i save siht on the desktop, but it doesnt show up unless i reboot
[06:12] <srs> guys - sorry if i missed it but any fix for that?  (udev/hotplug --> murasaki so X breaks, and murasaki doesnt startup either, no /var/lock/subsys)
[06:12] <edgardpacheco> i already installed it, and extract it, but now what do i have to do?
[06:12] <MrPockets> can i just restert X or something of the like ?
[06:12] <kman> Dr_Willis: running "hostname" or the corresponding GUI util needs root privileges.... and I cant run sudo!!
[06:12] <DBO> !tell edgardpacheco about FF1.5
[06:12] <DBO> be back in 10
[06:12] <grogoreo> hi
[06:12] <MrPockets> HEY!
[06:13] <grogoreo> I'm using PIDA but when I try to open a file, right-clicking and then 'Open with... > Pida' it just opens up PIDA as normal. Is there a way to open a file externally and the same goes for (in the CLI):   $ pida <file>   . Is there anyway to do what I want?
[06:13] <soulfreshner> where do the packages get downloaded to when I run apt-get install?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> kman,  not sure what to tell ya there. i alwaus set root password. (shame on me)
[06:13] <srs>  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:13] <soulfreshner> ta srs
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> kman,  perhaps the other experts in here can tell ya how to work around that issue.
[06:14] <AnAnt> ok, another question, can the Ubuntu install/live CD be used to upgrade Breezy ?
[06:14] <eddie_stone> how do I change the local that I am (for example, Brazil)?
[06:14] <Kezlar> hello everyone
[06:14] <kman> Dr_Willis: how can i login as root? how can i set the pass?
[06:14] <number_six> hi Kezlar
[06:14] <Kezlar> hey
[06:14] <Dingledorph> A newbie Q: I have installed Bittornado via Synaptic. How do i run it?
[06:15] <ic56> kman: I'm not sure I see why sudo would have a problem.  On my system, the name for 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts is different from /etc/hostname and sudo works.
[06:15] <erUSUL> !tall kman about sudo
[06:15] <ubotu> erUSUL: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:15] <erUSUL> !tell kman about sudo
[06:15] <Kezlar> Ubuntu, just newly got and allready a favorite ;)
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> kman,  not sure. :P thats why i suggest the others may know how to get around that. I dont know a 'trivial' way of doing it.  You could reboot to the  rescue/failsafe mode in the grub menus
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL,  but his sudo is broke. :P
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[06:16] <ic56> kman: did you modify your /etc/sudoers file?
[06:16] <ubotu> I guess sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:16] <soulfreshner> so all packages that are installed on my machine should be in the apt cache?
[06:16] <blazemonger> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6345.html this is the minor issue i'm having with ubuntu
[06:16] <shammy> when i run make install in the ndiswrapper directory, it gives me hundreds of errors like file not found, undeclared variable, ect. why would it do that?
[06:16] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: in which way it is broken?
[06:16] <kman> ic56: nope. the reason sudo doesnt work is that gethostbyname() fails
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL,  his  hostname and hosts file dont match up.
[06:17] <kman> ifconfig returns nothing!
[06:17] <ic56> kman: what's in /etc/hostname and what's in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[06:17] <Dingledorph> Can enyone help me with a newbie Q? I have installed Bittornado via Synaptic. How do i run it?
[06:17] <stevietool> _jason: no delay with local playing
[06:18] <soulfreshner> Dingledorph: you don't need to run it - AFAIK you just need to click on a torrent link
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> bbl -
[06:18] <whiter> you know when you right click your desktop and click Create Launcher, what program does that launch?
[06:18] <whiter> cause apparently im missing it...
[06:18] <erUSUL> he should edit /etc/hosts then...
[06:18] <kman> ic56, /etc/hostname="TVix", /etc/resolv.conf does not exist
[06:18] <number_six> Dingledorph,  open a terminal and type bt> TAB
[06:19] <kman> I cant modify hosts since sudo doesnt work
[06:19] <LordFalcon> Dapper is nice :D
[06:19] <LordFalcon> Feels a bit faster
[06:19] <ic56> kman: what about /etc/host.conf and /etc/nsswitch.conf ?  Do these exist?
[06:19] <kman> Please note that after logining in i get the followong message: "Could not look up internet address for machine. This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly. ..."
[06:20] <erUSUL> kman: you can boo in single mode and edit the files
[06:20] <erUSUL> boot*
[06:20] <kman> erUSUL: [newbie question]  how can i do that? boot in single mode ..
[06:20] <erUSUL> (recovery mode in grub)
[06:21] <kman> ic56, /etc/host.conf="order hosts,bind \n multi on"
[06:21] <Dingledorph> Number_six: Sorry for my lack of Linux skills.. I just says "bt command not found"
[06:21] <ic56> kman: your /etc/host.conf looks good
[06:21] <kman> ic56, nsswitch.conf is a bit long
[06:21] <Wolvenhaven> hey, i got ubuntu finnally installed, thanks to whomever told me to use memcheck, im trying to get my wireless card recognized on the internet connections setup, i can see the card in device manager and its correct, but i cant seem to get it to be recognized as a network card
[06:22] <ic56> kman: look for the hosts line in nsswitch.conf
[06:22] <kman> ic56, "files dns"
[06:23] <number_six> Dingledorph,  type "bt" then press the TAB key. You will see the avaible bittornado commands OR open the bittornado documentation on /usr/share/doc/bittornado
[06:23] <kman> uc56, and etc/hosts="127.0.0.0.1 localhost"
[06:23] <kman> ic56, Please note that after logining in i get the followong message: "Could not look up internet address for machine. This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly. ..."
[06:23] <ic56> kman: ok, the two config files agree and both say that the system should look in /etc/hosts to get IP numbers from names and then fall back on DNS.
[06:23] <ic56> kman: roger on the error message, though your problem is GNOME related.
[06:23] <mythica> how do i update my "locate" command ?
[06:24] <erUSUL> mythica: updatedb
[06:24] <kman> ic56, and etc/hosts="127.0.0.0.1 localhost"
[06:24] <Caminomaster> HEllo
[06:24] <kman> ic56, shouldnt it contain the machine's name as well?
[06:24] <mythica> coo - thanks erUSUL
[06:24] <edgardpacheco> hi again
[06:25] <edgardpacheco> please, i followed the steps for installing firefox 1.5
[06:25] <erUSUL> mythica: no problem
[06:25] <edgardpacheco> but i didn't worked
[06:25] <Caminomaster> How can I rip DVD? K3b?
[06:25] <ic56> kman: mmm I noticed that earlier and thought you had made a typo.  there should be only two zeros in localhost IP number.
[06:25] <Xana> !nvidia
[06:25] <edgardpacheco> and now i can't start the normal firefox
[06:25] <ubotu> Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:25] <edgardpacheco> i can't enter to the internet
[06:25] <edgardpacheco> please can anyone help me?
[06:25] <Wolvenhaven> how do i get ubuntu to recognise my wireless network card as a connection?
[06:25] <edgardpacheco> i extracted the firefox.1.5.x.tar.gz
[06:25] <kman> ic56, oops i meant 127.0.0.1 (got to excited  :) )
[06:25] <edgardpacheco> and now what do i have to do?
[06:25] <Caminomaster> tell me, edgardpacheco
[06:25] <active85k> salve gente
[06:25] <lolownik> Sorry, what was the kernel option to disable ACPI ?
[06:25] <edgardpacheco> caminomaster thanks
[06:25] <erUSUL> edgardpacheco: what is the exact problem?
[06:26] <active85k> chi mi sa dire il nome del pacchetto che mi d la documentazione per i phtread ?
[06:26] <erUSUL> lolownik: acpi=off
[06:26] <edgardpacheco> I downloaded the firefox.1.5.x.tar.gz package from mozilla.com
[06:26] <ic56> kman: clarify: is the IP number in /etc/hosts valid or broken?
[06:26] <erUSUL> iirci
[06:26] <edgardpacheco> i extracted it,
[06:26] <lolownik> erUSUL, thanks
[06:26] <whiter> anyone want to do me a favor?
[06:26] <MrPockets> sure
[06:26] <erUSUL> !ask
[06:26] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[06:26] <edgardpacheco> i followed a guide that it says the instructions to install it
[06:26] <Caminomaster> tell me whiter
[06:26] <edgardpacheco> but it didn't worked
[06:26] <whiter> MrPockets you are running nautilus and gnome right?
[06:26] <whiter> well anyone that is...
[06:26] <edgardpacheco> and now any firefox is running
[06:26] <kman> ic56, ipnumber in hosts is 127.0.0.1 (the entire and only entry is '127.0.0.1 localhost')
[06:27] <edgardpacheco> what do i have to do?
[06:27] <ic56> kman: putting additional names next to 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts is completely up to you.  The system has no requirement for it and gains no benefit from it.
[06:27] <whiter> when you right click the desktop and go to Create Launcher... can you please tell me what program that executes?
[06:27] <edgardpacheco> what do i have to do after extracting the tar package?
[06:27] <Wolvenhaven> whiter it creates shortcuts
[06:27] <whiter> Wolvenhaven i know
[06:27] <whiter> but i want to know what program it uses to do it
[06:27] <Wolvenhaven> ok
[06:27] <Wolvenhaven> oh
[06:27] <Wolvenhaven> no clue
[06:27] <ic56> kman: ok, in that case there is no reason for gethostbyname() to fail.  What's the exact sudo error message?
[06:27] <mythica> whats the best method tp uncompress a .bz2?
[06:27] <erUSUL> edgardpacheco: they worked for me (i'm now in dapper) if you follow the instruccions in the wiki it should work
[06:27] <number_six> DBO, are you there?
[06:27] <Caminomaster> Who can help me: What is better to rip DVD?
[06:28] <erUSUL> mythica: there's only one way to do it bunzip file.bz2
[06:28] <xoan> whiter: you can drag&drop any shortcut from menu to panel too
[06:28] <mythica> cool thanks
[06:28] <edgardpacheco> but what do i have to do after extracting the tar.gz package?
[06:28] <devnu112> mythica: tar jxvf <file>
[06:28] <Storkme> reiserFS versus ext3 - who would you vote for?
[06:28] <whiter> im not using gnome
[06:28] <whiter> so no
[06:28] <kman> ic56, running 'sudo' (note that even without params) i get 'sudo: unable to lookup TVix via gethostbyname()'
[06:28] <whiter> im just using nautilus...
[06:28] <devnu112> for hte bz2
[06:29] <whiter> and i need to know what program it uses to create those launchers so i can install it
[06:29] <mumbles_laptop> /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory how do i put the kernal in there ?
[06:29] <edgardpacheco> please can anyone help me? i can't enter internet
[06:29] <Wolvenhaven> how do i get my wirelesscard recognized as a connection?
[06:30] <scifi> just been doing them training missions in american  army, rather annoying :P
[06:30] <ic56> kman: ah, I see now.  There should be an entry for TVix in /etc/hosts but there isn't.  Putting it next to localhost would work, as would creating a new line with a bogus IP.  However, since you cannot run sudo, you cannot modify /etc/hosts :-).  Give me a minute.
[06:30] <erUSUL> edgardpacheco: the wiki says it clearly 'sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.2.tar.gz'
[06:30] <edgardpacheco> yes, but then what do i do?
[06:31] <fid> you open firefox
[06:31] <edgardpacheco> that means that when i extract i file is like i have installed it?
[06:31] <edgardpacheco> i don't have to do anything more to install the program?
[06:32] <fid> what not just sudo apt-get install mozilla
[06:32] <fid> or firefox or something
[06:32] <erUSUL> edgardpacheco: you can read english as well as i. follow the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion the next step is 'cd /opt/firefox/plugins/' and then 'sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* .' do i need to copy the entire wiki page in the irc channel? >:(
[06:33] <edgardpacheco> sorry erusul, but see, i screwed up my firefox, i can't enter the internet!
[06:33] <edgardpacheco> :(
[06:33] <devnu112> you have other browsers
[06:33] <Storkme> or you could use opera
[06:33] <edgardpacheco> no
[06:33] <devnu112> nautilus can browse internet, no?
[06:33] <ic56> kman: I see no way around it.  You'll have to boot in recovery mode.  Here's what will happen:
[06:33] <VincentMX> is there any alternative to VMWare?
[06:34] <fid> edgard: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[06:34] <erUSUL> edgardpacheco: _*read*_ and follow the intruccions in the wiki. there is no way you could screw up firefox if you followed the intructions in the wiki
[06:34] <devnu112> VincentMX: theres a few
[06:34] <maerk> I've just tried to install kubuntu but part way through the installation of the base system, it failed, citing initrd-tools as the source of the error. Has anyone else encountered this error, and if so, is there a way to fix it?
[06:34] <VincentMX> devnu112, wich ones?
[06:34] <ic56> kman: wait a minute, have you been able to do a shutdown (System> Logout > Shutdown) ?
[06:35] <Godis> How to get and use Wine?
[06:35] <kman> ic56, yes
[06:35] <kman> ic56, i was able to run "ifconfig -a" where i see the loopback there
[06:35] <Howitzer> is it necessary to keep all the xserver-xorg-driver-* packages when you have the nvidia-glx package installed?
[06:36] <blazemonger> i found a package that gives a error
[06:36] <blazemonger> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gtk-engines-mist_0.9-4ubuntu1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/libmist.so', which is also in package gtk2-engines-mist
[06:36] <blazemonger> is there a way to forcefully overwrite it
[06:37] <mythica> how do you mount a drive on boot?
[06:37] <maerk> does anyone know what to do with an initrd-tools error during installation
[06:37] <mythica> or now that i have mounted it will it be there when i reboot ?
[06:37] <VincentMX> 
[06:37] <ic56> kman: interesting that shutdown bypasses sudo.  Hmmm.  Well, we can't use it and I can't think of any other way to readily by-pass security.  Heck, if I could, then the system wouldn't be very secure, now would it? :-)
[06:37] <DBO> mythica, you have to add an entry to /etc/fstab
[06:37] <mythica> i dont want to mount the drive each time kernel loads
[06:37] <ubuntulnx> who's good for a bash question?
[06:37] <devnu112> VincentMX:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine#List_of_virtual_machine_software specifically the hardware section
[06:37] <mythica> ok cool thanks
[06:37] <VincentMX> z
[06:38] <DBO> ubuntulnx, ok, what is it?
[06:38] <mythica> there is a line there atm already: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/captive-mydrive captive-ntfs defaults,noauto 0 0
[06:38] <mythica> does that mean it should be there everytime now ?
[06:38] <ubuntulnx> thx DBO!
[06:38] <kman> ic56, I rebooted to rescue mode and edited hosts....rebooted normally... and it works (sudo that is)
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> 'noauto' means dont auto-mount it
[06:38] <number_six> DBO,  where can i change the driver numberin. /etc/fstab/ and the /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[06:38] <ic56> kman: so you will system > logout> restart the computer.  Then when you see the grub prompt, hit escape.  You will be shown a menu of boot options.
[06:39] <moitio> I've got a microsoft keyboard with lots of different mulitmedia keys, some of which need seperate drivers before they even get recognised. Is there any linux software to detect it?
[06:39] <DBO> mythica, should, but you should change that last 0 to a 1
[06:39] <patrick_king> !restricted
[06:39] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:39] <ic56> kman: good for you.
[06:39] <mythica> oh ok
[06:39] <mythica> thanks
[06:39] <ubuntulnx> DBO: have a file with url's + script that loops through the urls in a while loop
[06:39] <pierre-> !FreeFormats
[06:39] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[06:39] <DBO> number_six, when do you get the error?
[06:39] <mythica> what does the "pass" value actually do?
[06:39] <DBO> ubuntulnx, ok
[06:39] <kman> ic56, how do you explain the easy hack? anyone can reboot to root???? no password needed?? how is that even a-bit secure?
[06:39] <|lostbyte|> where do the installed kernel modules go ?
[06:40] <DBO> mythica, describes in what order the drives get checked for errors
[06:40] <ubuntulnx> DBO: the script reads the url and feeds them to mplayer to cap the url
[06:40] <patrick_king> why do i get this error   patrick@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:40] <patrick_king> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:40] <patrick_king> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:40] <mythica> k, ta
[06:40] <patrick_king> synaptic is closed
[06:40] <number_six> at boot the kernel extracted and loaded but not find the root partition
[06:40] <ic56> kman: now that you can gain root, satisfy my curiosity: look in /etc/sudoers.  Are there any lines there that mention your hostname?
[06:40] <number_six> DBO, at boot the kernel extracted and loaded but not find the root partition
[06:40] <ubuntulnx> DBO: something like:mplayer "$url" -ao pcm -aofile $tmpcapfile -vc dummy -vo null
[06:40] <DBO> number_six, oh, not what I thought it was... my bad
[06:40] <erUSUL> kman: anyone with physical acces to your computer can do whatever she wants. with or without recovery mode
[06:41] <DBO> ubuntulnx, ok
[06:41] <ubuntulnx> DBO: but mplayer is always complaining about No bind found for key :No bind found for key c No bind found for key _
[06:41] <mythica> http://pastebin.com/690594
[06:41] <erUSUL> patrick_king: other program is accesing apt db (update-manager, synaptic, aptitude etc)
[06:41] <try_it_over> hi... how ccan i install latest kde on ubuntu? i d like to have the latest kopete on my desktop ;-)
[06:41] <mythica> trying to install this thing, but when i run make i get this error
[06:42] <mythica> make: *** [default]  Error 2
[06:42] <ubuntulnx> DBO: if i copy the expanded :mplayer "$url" -ao pcm -aofile $tmpcapfile -vc dummy -vo null on the commandline it does work
[06:42] <ic56> kman: there's no point to making the sysadmin's life hard when a screwdrive would suffice to remove a harddisk and access it directly from another system.
[06:42] <mythica> is the module the problem or my installation?
[06:42] <patrick_king> ersul: synaptic is closed
[06:42] <kman> ic56, "Defaults \t !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn   \n   root ALL=(ALL) ALL   \n %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[06:42] <maerk> hi, does anyone know anything about installation errors in kubuntu 5.10? if not it's back to google... :(
[06:42] <ubuntulnx> DBO: i dont have a clue. lost today figuring out what happens..
[06:43] <stevietool> I've installed mozilla-plugin-vlc but I get in firefox only a black screen with 'no picture', sound is ok
[06:43] <DBO> ubuntulnx, print your $url output to screen and make sure it is what you think it is
[06:43] <Wolvenhaven> is there a way ubuntu can read ntfs so i dont have to make a copy of all my documents?
[06:43] <scifi> wow just looked at the flash demo of xfce and someone adding new things to the panel at the bottem of the desktop, looked impressive
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[06:43] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:44] <edgardpacheco> hi people
[06:44] <ompaul> mythica, have you got gcc-3.4 installed?
[06:44] <try_it_over> hey, I need helpe here... how can i install the latest kde on ubuntu?
[06:44] <ic56> kman: interesting. thanks.
[06:44] <edgardpacheco> sorry that i botter you again...
[06:44] <ubuntulnx> DBO: its an ok url.. if i run mplayer directly from the commandline it works
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Wolvenhaven,  you just mount the drives correctly
[06:44] <Wolvenhaven> thats not my question
[06:44] <edgardpacheco> what was the page for the instructions of how to install firefox1.5?
[06:44] <Wolvenhaven> im dualbooting xp and ubuntu
[06:44] <rem__> hey...i Tried to install xubuntu (XFCE4 Desktop), I have Universe, then: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop but I get a bunch of unmet dependencies ... anyone knows what the problem could be .. ?
[06:44] <DBO> ubuntulnx, yes, I am wondering if your script is botching the URL's somewhere
[06:44] <kman> ic56, so how is that so easy to jhack a linux box? why doesnt root have a pass?
[06:44] <Wolvenhaven> instead of having to manually transfer all my stuff, i want ubuntu to be able to see my windows drive, so i can access my docs and such, along with movies
[06:45] <stevietool> does someone use vlc as plugin for firefox ?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Wolvenhaven,  yea.. thats doable.. read the '!ntfs' message.
[06:45] <edgardpacheco> what was that page on the wikipedia that says how to install firefox 1.5?
[06:45] <xknight> hello
[06:45] <Wolvenhaven> ok
[06:45] <ubuntulnx> DBO: the url is good..
[06:45] <devnu112> arghh, no wonder my sata 2 drive doesnt work, i thought dapper was supposed to have kernel 2.6.16 :(
[06:45] <Wolvenhaven> thanks
[06:45] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[06:45] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:45] <xknight> dose ubuntu support 4138 wirelissbroadcom ?
[06:45] <DBO> ubuntulnx, ok, can I see your full script please?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[06:45] <try_it_over> I NeEd HeLP InStAlLinG KdE 3.5 On kUbuNtU!!!
[06:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[06:45] <edgardpacheco> thanks!
[06:45] <xknight> !broadcom
[06:45] <DBO> try_it_over, please dont type like that
[06:45] <kman> !bradcom
[06:45] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kman
[06:46] <kman> !broadcom
[06:46] <kman> ic56, Thanx for your help
[06:46] <ic56> kman: you are confusing two issues.
[06:46] <try_it_over> WhY?
[06:46] <DBO> try_it_over, because its annoying
[06:46] <devnu112> try_it_over: because its annoying
[06:46] <try_it_over> PlEasE hElp!
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> try_it_over,  you are going to get ignored i imagine.
[06:47] <agis> #greece
[06:47] <try_it_over> i am annoying... what can i Do?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> try_it_over,  could read the topics/ask in #kubuntu for one.. and the kubuntu wiki/forums for another.
[06:47] <stjepan> can I limit download rate for apt-get somehow?
[06:48] <Wolvenhaven> what software do i need to get a linksys wireless-g pci card to run on ubuntu?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Wolvenhaven,  depends on the chipset of the card.
[06:48] <ubuntulnx> appreciate your help DBO!
[06:48] <plutonas> I just installed ubuntu, and have the following problem: everytime I type sudo .... I get a message that there is a problem with gethostbyname() and nothing happens. What should I do?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> !wireless
[06:48] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[06:48] <try_it_over> thx doctor! ;-)
[06:48] <mythica> is using make; make install bad?
[06:48] <Wolvenhaven> thanks
[06:48] <ic56> kman: when we say root has no password on ubuntu, we don't mean that you try to login as root and you are allowed in.  We mean that there is absolutely no method to gain lawful entry -- no sequence of chracters can ever form a valid password.
[06:48] <mythica> i remember someone once telling me its better to use dpkg ?
[06:48] <ic56> kman you still there?
[06:49] <mumbles_laptop> has anyone got a dlink dwl-g650+ rev a working ?
[06:49] <devnu112> mythica: from a package management standpoint it is better to use packages if they are available
[06:49] <xknight> dose ubunutu always take forever to install DVD ?
[06:49] <devnu112> but sometimes they just arent
[06:49] <kman> ic56, sure i am
[06:50] <ic56> kman: ok, I'll continue
[06:50] <number_six> bye all
[06:50] <mythica> yeah i know that devnu112
[06:50] <monomaniacpat> Hi guys, 'm trying to remove some modules...
[06:50] <DBO> ubuntulnx, you are right, your script looks just fine...  I dont get it either... I am thinking it should work...
[06:50] <mythica> but say u have a module thats unknown cant u pack it into a dpkg file ?
[06:50] <monomaniacpat> I've sudo modprobe -r
[06:51] <ic56> kman: however, having physical access to a machine opens other options to the would be attacker.  A screwdriver will open the case and allow one to take your harddisk and all its data.  That harddisk can then be read as ordinary, unprivileged media on the attacker's own computer.
[06:51] <devnu112> mythica: i would imagine so, but ive never done it
[06:51] <monomaniacpat> but if the card it's connected to is inserted it says "FATAL: Module ieee80211_crypt_r8180 is in use."
[06:51] <kman> ic56, i see
[06:51] <monomaniacpat> And if it's not, the module isn't inserted and I can't uninstall it
[06:51] <ubuntulnx> DBO: also, it does not read all of the lines in the input file.. it does not read the last line
[06:51] <holy_cow> one should note that you can encrypt your hard drive such that they can take the hd but don't have a hope in hell of reading the data
[06:51] <ic56> kman: thus, there is no point to trying to prevent gaining access to the system in software when physical access is already present.
[06:52] <holy_cow> encryption unfortunately carries the price of responsibility ... one can lock them selves out
[06:52] <kman> ic56, i see
[06:52] <DBO> ubuntulnx, I dont have the time to start playing with your script right now, but I will tonight.  So if you make a post in the forums, I will try to find it and help you once I have had the time to play with it
[06:52] <devnu112> heh
[06:53] <ubuntulnx> DBO, better to catch me on irc if you dont mind
[06:53] <monomaniacpat> How do I unmake and uninstall?
[06:53] <deb_extreme> .cl
[06:53] <DBO> ubuntu, fair is fair, can do boss
[06:53] <devnu112> mono, you really dont...
[06:54] <devnu112> find and delete every file that the 'make install' installed
[06:54] <ic56> So what's the consensus on sudo passwd root?  Should we be advising people to set a root password for backdoor repairs when sudo is broken or is it sufficient to advise people to reboot in single user mode (aka recovery mode) to gain access?
[06:54] <mgh0> Hi, can anyone reccomend a decent bittorent client? the default app is no where near as good as uTorrent for example
[06:54] <roryy> ic56: i reckon recovery mode is fine
[06:54] <monomaniacpat> devnu112: is that really a good idea - won't it leave some files?
[06:54] <ompaul> ic56, the answer is no
[06:54] <fid> whats wrong with normal bittorrent?
[06:55] <devnu112> mono, if your memory is as bad as mine, then yeah heh
[06:55] <Mh2|Ubuntu> can anyone tell me a server for aMule? tnx
[06:55] <mgh0> fid: some subscription sites do not allow its use
[06:55] <monomaniacpat> devnu112: what do you mean>
[06:55] <monomaniacpat> ?
[06:55] <devnu112> monomaniacpat: ,thats why its good to use package files when possible
[06:55] <mumbles_laptop> how do i upgrade ubuntu virsions ?
[06:55] <devnu112> so that the package manager can keep track of it
[06:55] <roryy> !upgrade
[06:55] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[06:56] <roryy> if you're upgrading something earlier, ask ;)
[06:56] <roryy> ic56: maybe we can continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[06:56] <devnu112> what is going to be the final kernel version in dapper?
[06:56] <monomaniacpat> ...I see... But isn't there some way of unmaking files? something like 'clear' - I did it the other week
[06:56] <ompaul> ic56, what you do in the privacy of your own command line is your business, but we should understand the "normal state" of a machine when a user comes in here then they can get help, when something extraordinary happens then issues occur and theboth the user and helper are frustrated
[06:57] <devnu112> monomaniacpat: you mean clearing out all compiled objects in a source tree?
[06:57] <ompaul> ic56, so you propose what I view as loose loose
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> I do think the 'rescue' options of the live/install cd's  should allow fixing of more problems. :P
[06:58] <ompaul> s/loose/lose/g even
[06:58] <mumbles_laptop> ok reading the !wireless stuff it says my card should be support out of the box
[06:58] <mumbles_laptop> but i cant work out how to use it
[06:58] <devnu112> ugh, this is deperessing, apparently i hafta wait for the next version after dapper if i want to be able to use my hard drive
[06:58] <monomaniacpat> devnu112: not sure. It just returned the files to their original state prior to 'make'
[06:59] <mumbles_laptop> !update
[06:59] <ubotu> mumbles_laptop: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:59] <devnu112> monomaniacpat: there is no automated process to reverse a 'make install' if that is what you are asking
[06:59] <monomaniacpat> What about one to reverse make though?
[06:59] <ic56> Looks like 2 votes against root password, 1 in favour.  I must agree that, since the default is no password, we, when giving support, must assume the user doesn't have a root password and would have to provide a reboot-based solution anyway.  Hmmm, maybe I'll change my vote.  I'll think about it.
[07:00] <erUSUL> monomaniacpat: make clean
[07:00] <devnu112> monomaniacpat: you are probably looking for make clean
[07:00] <mumbles_laptop> ok how do i update to lastest virsion ?
[07:01] <roryy> monomaniacpat: in future you could use 'checkinstall', which i believe does provide an uninstallation capability
[07:01] <ompaul> mumbles, for release it is 5.10 (breezy) for development it is dapper in which case go into #ubuntu+1 the dapper channel
[07:01] <erUSUL> ic56: the votes that really count are the ones of the ubuntu devs and designers. they choose sudo if you like to use a root account maybe ubuntu is not for you and you should use [insert distro here]  instead
[07:01] <monomaniacpat> roryy: how do I use checkinstall?
[07:01] <monomaniacpat> devnu112: and erUSUL, thanks
[07:02] <devnu112> why is an ATI X800 GTO detected as an unknown device? it seems like it should be pretty common...
[07:02] <lastnode> !madwifi
[07:02] <ubotu> lastnode: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:02] <roryy> monomaniacpat: ubotu has just told you
[07:02] <monomaniacpat> that's creepy - how did you know
[07:02] <roryy> monomaniacpat: i told him to ;)
[07:02] <mumbles_laptop> ompaul,  - ok i have a dlink dwl-g650+ wireless card and have spent most th afternoon trying to get it working - then i read that it should be supported "out the box" how do i get ubuntu to reconise it ?
[07:03] <moparfan90> how do i copy a whole folder into another.. in a command
[07:04] <devnu112> cp -a <source> <destination>
[07:04] <PreZ> question - does ubuntu support resizing NTFS partitions during install?
[07:04] <DBO> PreZ, no
[07:05] <mumbles_laptop> unless someone has a better idea
[07:05] <PreZ> hum, ok.
[07:05] <mumbles_laptop> DBO,  seams knolagable
[07:05] <stjepan> the problem with slackware is that it's repository is VERY small so I switched to Ubuntu and here is the problem with ubuntu: dependency checking and apt/dpkg bloat... what do u think?
[07:05] <mumbles_laptop> any ideas ?
[07:05] <Howitzer> How can i give Root the same theme as the normal user?
[07:05] <schasi> where is the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu-server?
[07:05] <roryy> stjepan: i think this is best discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:05] <DBO> mumbles_laptop, thats a laptop card or desktop?
[07:06] <mumbles_laptop> laptop
[07:06] <devnu112> Howitzer: why are you logging in as root?
[07:06] <roryy> schasi: different default packages
[07:06] <slackgen> schasi: ubtuntu server has no x, gnome, etc. it contains nothing extra
[07:06] <Howitzer> i mean when starting up Synaptic or something
[07:06] <mumbles_laptop> pcimcia card
[07:06] <GliderMike> oh here we go, someone is going to get chastized for working in root :-)
[07:06] <Howitzer> that needs gksudo
[07:06] <GliderMike> p.s., I do all the time
[07:06] <erUSUL> !tell Howitzer about root
[07:06] <ic56> :-)
[07:06] <Howitzer> that isn't the problem -_-
[07:06] <schasi> slackgen: How comes they have nearly same size then?
[07:07] <schasi> And what does server have that normal hasnt?
[07:07] <Howitzer> i install sudo on every linux box i use -_-
[07:07] <roryy> schasi: the cd comes with things like apache that the normal install CD doesn't have
[07:07] <uein> how can I read the contents of a DVD? I mean, how can I mount that device ??
[07:07] <schasi> does it install apache by default?
[07:07] <schasi> if i use the ubu-server?
[07:07] <Bilange> is it safe to remove the package libgl1-mesa? this package seems to be broken on my installation, and I dont use openGL on this machine.
[07:07] <roryy> schasi: no. it installs the bare minimum by default
[07:07] <DBO> mumbles_laptop, do you have the pcmcia daemon running
[07:07] <mumbles_laptop> < is a newbie
[07:08] <mumbles_laptop> and dosent actally know
[07:08] <slackgen> schasi: a ubuntu server instal is just typing "server" at the install prompt. it installs a basic ubuntu system with no extra packages. you use a normal ubuntu install cd
[07:08] <erUSUL> uein: if it is not encrypted you can use afaik mount -t udf /dev/dvd /mnt/mountpointofchoice
[07:08] <DBO> mumbles_laptop, "ps -ef | grep pcmcia"
[07:08] <schasi> There is a special iso though
[07:08] <roryy> slackgen: there's also the ubuntu 'server edition', which is a little different
[07:08] <kinga> hi, i am newbie with toshiba tecra 8200 laptop, my screen is shifted few pixels right how to correct it , is there a tool or something for this ?
[07:08] <rem__> I uncommented Univers rep but its not using it...how can I make it use it .. ?
[07:09] <rem__> I did update ..
[07:09] <schasi> where does the ubuntu-server iso differ from typing "server" with a normal installcd? number of packages on the cd?
[07:09] <mumbles_laptop> DBO,  nothings happerning
[07:09] <slackgen> roryy: oh. i did not know this
[07:09] <slackgen> schasi: sorry i wasnt all that helpful
[07:09] <schasi> slackgen: np, thank you for trying ot help me
[07:09] <DBO> mumbles_laptop, "sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia start"
[07:10] <uein> erUSUL: "wrong fs type"
[07:10] <mumbles_laptop> DBO,   i get this mumbles  19541  7743  0 18:10 pts/0    00:00:00 grep pcmcia
[07:11] <rem__> I uncommented Univers rep but its not using it...how can I make it use it .. ?
[07:11] <rem__> I did update ..
[07:11] <delta> Excuse me, someone "working" with/for the ubuntu-shop?
[07:11] <rem__> anyone .. ?
[07:11] <monomaniacpat> anyone know what the -p means in 'mkdir -p'?
[07:12] <erUSUL> uein: it is a DVD-video, it is not? if not try iso9660
[07:12] <DBO> monomaniacpat, parent, it means make all parent directories required
[07:12] <rem__> man mkdir .. ?
[07:12] <bbrazil> monomaniacpat: parent, if I do mkdir -p /foo/bar and /foo doesn't exist it'll create it
[07:12] <rem__> mkdir --help
[07:12] <monomaniacpat> I see, thanks. I did try looking at help but I didn't really understand it
[07:12] <rem__> k
[07:12] <SAM_theman> I am on Kubuntu how i change my font size for xchat kuss they are really small and whats wrong with my sound
[07:12] <mumbles_laptop> DBO,  now what ?
[07:12] <uein> erUSUL: thanks ;P
[07:13] <rem__> How can you make Universe active if apt update didnt do it ... (no error message in update,,)
[07:13] <schasi> roryy:  where does the ubuntu-server cd differ from typing "server" with a normal installcd? number of packages on the cd?
[07:13] <DBO> mumbles_laptop, see if your laptop card shows up in System -> Administration -> Networking
[07:13] <nikosgr> hi
[07:13] <nikosgr> yes it is
[07:13] <nikosgr> its the very first line
[07:14] <roryy> schasi: yeah. also, i *think* the server cd installs a better kernel
[07:14] <rem__> hmm ... I guess its the usuall "help ureself" support here ..
[07:14] <rem__> :(
[07:14] <mumbles_laptop> DBO,  nope
[07:14] <steffi> hey guys, I download ubuntu 6.06 beta 2 ..LTS ..  However I need to install it permanetly
[07:14] <schasi> "better_ meaning?
[07:14] <DBO> roryy, nope, same kernel
[07:14] <steffi> do I need another version?
[07:14] <ubuntulnx> DBO: cracked it
[07:14] <roryy> schasi: i.e., linux-image-686 (say) vs -386
[07:14] <DBO> ubuntulnx, what was it?
[07:14] <roryy> DBO: hrm, you sure? I installed server-edition last year, and i remember being surprised at having a non -386 kernel image
[07:15] <roryy> DBO: note this is the server edition cd, not normal cd with 'server' install
[07:15] <ubuntulnx> DBO: dont not why the while loop did not get the urls
[07:15] <steffi> plz someone answer me about 6.06 LTS
[07:15] <stjepan> can I install firefox1.5 in ubuntu breezy?
[07:15] <DBO> ubuntulnx, yeah, that was why I was telling you to have it print the url's on screen, to make sure they were grabbed ok =P
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> !ff1.5
[07:15] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:16] <erUSUL> steffi: if it is the livecd version you will need the install version afaik
[07:16] <rem__> good luck steff... never got any help in here for the past 2 years ---
[07:16] <endy> somene to know root password in kubuntu5.10 if exist such
[07:16] <rem__> hmmm guess he got luckier ..
[07:16] <anias> hi :)
[07:16] <chrisjw> hi there, I'm still quite new
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> !root
[07:16] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:16] <steffi> erUSUL, help me a bit plz.. explain me
[07:16] <monomaniacpat> It doesn't look as if the output from sudo make install is going to tell me what files were actually installed, where... is there any way I can undo the installation?
[07:16] <DBO> mumbles_laptop, "sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf"
[07:16] <endy> yes yes
[07:16] <endy> :)
[07:16] <DBO> mumbles, then "sudo sysv-rc-conf"
[07:16] <schasi> Is there an ubuntu netinstall?
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> monomaniacpat,  what did you install?
[07:16] <chrisjw> what is the file attribute for allowing permission to modify a file?
[07:16] <ubuntulnx> DBO: it was grabbing the urls ok, at least on the screen maybe should have checked with hexdump
[07:17] <kinga> anybody knows how to adjust display on the laptop? (its horizontal position)
[07:17] <anias> [30/Apr/2006:19:06:43 +0200]  PID 18888 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/smb) crashed on signal 11!
[07:17] <monomaniacpat> some drivers for a wireless card
[07:17] <chrisjw> "/usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/bin/python2.4': Permission denied
[07:17] <chrisjw> "
[07:17] <anias> help :)?
[07:17] <chrisjw> is my problem
[07:17] <ubuntulnx> DBO: a for loop does the job, did not change anything in the loop
[07:17] <chrisjw> I need to change the attributes
[07:17] <slackgen> monomaniacpat: use checkinstall to make a .deb and install with  dpkg -i "package"
[07:17] <chrisjw> any ideas or suggestions?
[07:17] <B0FH> can ubuntu use a tv tuner card?
[07:17] <mumbles_laptop> mega lag lag
[07:17] <XiXaQ> Any advice? I have no operating system installed on my harddrive, so I'm running from live-cd. I need to burn the installation cd, and I only have one cd-rom drive.
[07:17] <slackgen> monomaniacpat: you simply use sudo checkinstall instead of sudo make install
[07:17] <XiXaQ> what do I do?
[07:17] <steffi> guys someine that has install 6.06 beta 2.. plz
[07:17] <XiXaQ> Is it possible to install ubuntu directly from the internet+
[07:17] <XiXaQ> ?
[07:18] <aljoshanl> how can i encode an entire dir with lame?
[07:18] <chrisjw> ffs
[07:18] <erUSUL> steffi: if the version you dl is the one you can boot from your cd rom and use without touching the hd you will need another cd.
[07:18] <monomaniacpat> slackgen: I've tried checkinstalling the drivers and it came back with an error
[07:18] <schasi> XiXaQ: How much Ram do you have?
[07:18] <chrisjw> can anyone just tell me the number
[07:18] <chrisjw> for changing the attributes to a folder
[07:18] <Tomze> B0FH: yes... but depends on what chip the card use.. try lspci
[07:18] <XiXaQ> schasi, 512MB.
[07:18] <schasi> XiXaQ: You mave be able to cope the whole cd to ram
[07:18] <schasi> Well unfortunate
[07:18] <monomaniacpat> I figured it was because I had already make installed them - ?
[07:18] <DBO> ubuntulnx, Im going to fondle your script tonight, its got me interested anyhow =P
[07:18] <steffi> erUSUL, the ubuntu page just give the LTS ..there is no another version
[07:18] <kinga> xiaxaq , i have instaled mine with some windows tool from sf.net
[07:18] <DBO> mumbles_laptop, is everything really slow?
[07:18] <steffi> erUSUL, p://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[07:18] <aljoshanl> I want to downsample a dir of mp3s, but it doesnt work, im trying this commadn: lame -b 64 --mp3input *.mp3 out/
[07:19] <XiXaQ> schasi, that's not helpful. I cannot remove the cd from the drive?
[07:19] <rem__> How can you make Universe active if apt update didnt do it ... (no error message in update,,)
[07:19] <schasi> I dont think so
[07:19] <ubuntulnx> DBO: ok.. maybe you can tell me how i can start the encode of capped streams when it is still capping new ones
[07:19] <mumbles> DBO then what ?
[07:19] <mythica> is it not recommended to get rid of gcc4 altogether and just stick with gcc3.4?
[07:19] <mumbles> im in runlevl config
[07:20] <DBO> ubuntulnx, yeah, modularize your scripts =)
[07:20] <immolo> XiXaQ, network install?
[07:20] <DBO> mythica, no, just set the CC env variable
[07:20] <Guma> !bluetooth
[07:20] <ubotu> [bluetooth]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[07:20] <DBO> mumbles, is PMCIA checked for runlevel 2?
[07:20] <erUSUL> steffi: is there an icon showing "Install System Permanently"? in your desktop?
[07:20] <XiXaQ> immolo, I asked. How do I tp
[07:20] <immolo> XiXaQ, maybe this will help http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/
[07:20] <mumbles> DBO yes
[07:20] <XiXaQ> immolo, thanks.
[07:20] <erUSUL> steffi: check this site http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta#head-97a9446ae1f6c921523664efa33374c1b88e9bb1
[07:21] <DBO> mumbles, please press q
[07:21] <steffi> erUSUL, I havent install it yet
[07:21] <dan_> hi
[07:21] <steffi> ok
[07:21] <monomaniacpat> slackgen: you still there?
[07:21] <DBO> mumbles, you keep mentioning lag, is your system running really slow?
[07:21] <dan_> hi
[07:21] <chrisjw> can someone help me install python?
[07:21] <mumbles> just my networc connection
[07:21] <dan_> ok
[07:22] <dan_> ok
[07:22] <dan_> ok
[07:22] <dan_> kok
[07:22] <dan_> ok
[07:22] <dan_> ok
[07:22] <mumbles_laptop> bummer  - dinner time ill be back
[07:22] <dan_> ok
[07:22] <DBO> mumbles, it should work =( I donno whats wrong
[07:22] <chrisjw> can someone help me install python?
[07:22] <aljoshanl> chrisjw: sudo apt-get install python2.4
[07:22] <immolo> XiXaQ, no problem
[07:22] <chrisjw> THX
[07:22] <mumbles_laptop> DBO,  ok ill try after food
[07:22] <aljoshanl> np
[07:22] <chrisjw> isn't 2.4.3 the latest?
[07:22] <Robson_carente_j> oi
[07:22] <Robson_carente_j> alguem do brazil?
[07:22] <aljoshanl> could someone help me with encoding an entire dir with LAME ? im tring this but doesnt work lame -b 64 --mp3input *.mp3 out/
[07:22] <erUSUL> steffi: you downloaded "Desktop CD" or "Text-mode install CD"?
[07:23] <steffi> erUSUL, desktop
[07:23] <slackgen> monomaniacpat:
[07:23] <slackgen> monomaniacpat: oops yes just thinking
[07:23] <slackgen> monomaniacpat: the failed checkinstall should still show where it was installing a few files to before it failed
[07:24] <arrick> anyone, with regular html, how do I position a form a certain distance from the top of the page? without a style sheet? noboy is answering in html
[07:24] <slackgen> monomaniacpat: if not i dont know how to do what you want to do
[07:24] <erUSUL> steffi: this is a live cd you can boot from it in any computer and ubuntu will work from the cdrom. if you want to install ubuntu in your hard disk there is an icon in the desktop to do it
[07:24] <shoshe> need some help ppl .. just installed fresh copy of ubuntu but its not givving me the option to increase screen Resl more then 640*480
[07:24] <monomaniacpat> slackgen: I'll get you the output
[07:24] <DBO> shoshe, /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> pastebin
[07:25] <erUSUL> steffi: try it boot your computer with the cd in the cdrom drive if the bios is configured to boot first from cdrom, ubuntu should run
[07:25] <steffi> erUSUL, thanks ..I hope it will work, coz I have plenty of work to do, and no time to lose :(
[07:25] <steffi> erUSUL, i ll try it now.. thanx ..cu around
[07:25] <aljoshanl> could someone help me with encoding an entire dir with LAME ? im tring this but doesnt work lame -b 64 --mp3input *.mp3 out/
[07:25] <erUSUL> steffi: no problem. check your bios to set the apropiate boot device order (first cdrom second hd)
[07:25] <XiXaQ> immolo, that only describes how do setup the server. I still don't know how to start the setup over the internet.
[07:26] <shoshe> DBO, is that a line i should look for --> pastebin ?
[07:26] <DBO> !pastebin
[07:26] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:26] <steffi> erUSUL, yea.. I know that.. maybe I am a girl, but not that stupid :) ..cyaa
[07:26] <XiXaQ> I'm not sure I'm willing to spend another twenty hours installing ubuntu. Been at this five days now. :(
[07:26] <rem__> How can you make Universe active if apt update didnt do it ... (no error message in update,,)
[07:26] <rem__> ok say i have 2 pc's they both have Unstable rep, the update foes ok for both, but then when i look for a package it sees it on one pc and not the other ..
[07:26] <rem__> i meant Universe rep
[07:27] <immolo> XiXaQ, hmm let me see
[07:27] <edgardpacheco> hello people
[07:27] <DBO> !tell rem__ about repos
[07:27] <rem__> they both have univers uncommented, and I apt updated both ..
[07:28] <rem__> anyone ?
[07:28] <shoshe> DBO, how do i go by it .. mean what do i need to do ?
[07:28] <CarlFK> is there a command/script I can run from cron to keep a box uptodate? (like for u-server that doesn't run X)
[07:28] <grogoreo> where could I find out how to create debian/ubuntu files for distribution?
[07:28] <rem__> I kinow how to enable a rep, I want to know what to do when it doesnt work ..
[07:28] <cfh_dev> What login should I use when updating CUPS via web interface?
[07:28] <monomaniacpat> slackgen: I think we might be in luck, I rely on you for guidance! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13154
[07:28] <CarlFK> grogoreo: there is a deb-howto for that... leme find it
[07:29] <DBO> shoshe, "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" copy that entire file, go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste the whole thing there.  Click send, then give me the resulting link
[07:29] <grogoreo> CarlFK, thanks
[07:29] <rem__> I had the same prob in a edubuntu b4 didnt find the solution, but it wasnt a big problem ...
[07:29] <rem__> now i need XFCE4 for this laptop ..
[07:29] <ZooKeeper_> How do I create standard setup (e.g. gnome settings) for all new users?
[07:29] <rem__> no way to have Universe enabled ...
[07:29] <rem__> it shows Univers updating in apt update,. ..
[07:29] <rem__> but then in apt cache or install
[07:29] <] KJ[> hi all
[07:30] <shoshe> got it
[07:30] <rem__> it doesnt use it ,.
[07:30] <kelbi> hola que tal??
[07:30] <edgardpacheco> i have a question :) . How do i reset firefox entirely? i mean, i want to delete all traces of firefox in my Ubuntu
[07:30] <DBO> rem__, put our sources.list in pastebin please
[07:30] <] KJ[> I'm a new user of ubuntu and i'm thrilled of it so far ! it's wonderful !!
[07:30] <DBO> edgardpacheco, "sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox"
[07:30] <immolo> XiXaQ, http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso internet installer
[07:30] <erUSUL> !tell kelbi about es
[07:30] <Tomze> edgardpacheco: sudo find / -name firefox
[07:31] <] KJ[> I have a few questions about programing on ubuntu - is kylix working ?
[07:31] <XiXaQ> immolo, can I boot that with the live-cd? I don't understand.
[07:31] <immolo> yes
[07:31] <CarlFK> grogoreo:  /join #ubuntu-motu and check out the URL's in the topic - like http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU  (something is dogging my box - browser is slow as heck)
[07:31] <Tomze> edgardpacheco: but use purge before you search what is left
[07:31] <capiCrimm> what folder are user installed icons kept in?
[07:31] <XiXaQ> immolo, what do I do?
[07:31] <Darkvador> hi, anoybody knows of a good data recovery utility please? my win HD keeps gettint me crc errors :(
[07:31] <mumbles_laptop> back
[07:31] <Darkvador> giving me
[07:31] <Darkvador> sorry
[07:31] <iceman> Anyone know how I can mount a  UNIX "Openstep harddrive on Ubuntu
[07:31] <immolo> XiXaQ, oh wait you will still have the same probem
[07:31] <grogoreo> CarlFK, great thanks man
[07:31] <mumbles_laptop> DBO, any other ideas ?
[07:31] <Tomze> capiCrimm: /usr/share/pixmaps
[07:32] <] KJ[> can I mount a fat32 partition for writing ?
[07:32] <capiCrimm> nvm, found it .icons
[07:32] <erUSUL> ] KJ[: kylis is quite old, it does not work with newer lidstd++ afaik.
[07:32] <jakl> anyone got a link where i can get the latest repositories^
[07:32] <] KJ[> if yes - dow
[07:32] <DBO> mumbles_laptop, no =(  I dont get it, if I had your PC infront of me I think I could be more help, but remote tech support is hard
[07:32] <capiCrimm> ~/.icons
[07:32] <erUSUL> ] KJ[: yes
[07:32] <GliderMike> jk, yes on teh fat32
[07:32] <] KJ[> how
[07:32] <mumbles_laptop> yeh
[07:32] <cius> Is there an option for a Resize Key in gnome?  I mean where you hit a hotkey and drag the mouse in a window to resize it.
[07:32] <mumbles_laptop> its an acer aspire 3610
[07:32] <GliderMike> mount -t vfat /dev/xxx /mountpoint
[07:32] <Tomze> ] KJ[: mount -o rw /dev/....
[07:32] <erUSUL> !tell ] KJ[ about windowsdrives
[07:32] <saaida> hi there. i have xubuntu, and have a partiton of 20 Gb of fat32 . it is /dev/hda4 . i created in my home a mounting point ( folder with name driveE ) what is the command for mounting it so i can use it in linux ?
[07:33] <] KJ[> erUSUL: what do you recommend for programing under ubuntu ?
[07:33] <Tomze> ] KJ[: mount -o rw -t vfat /dev/....  maybe thats better :-)
[07:33] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/690683
[07:33] <XiXaQ> immolo, I'm beginning to think that I should probably give Windows another year before I try this again. Perhaps fedora core 4. I can't afford to take week off from work just to have a working computer you know. :)
[07:33] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/690683
[07:33] <SAM_theman> help me
[07:33] <Tomze> XiXaQ: PCLinuxOS
[07:33] <monomaniacpat> slackgen:  please PM me with any ideas, back in 10 mins
[07:33] <CarlFK> apt-get update... "The following packages have been kept back:  linux-image-686" - how do I get that installed?
[07:33] <erUSUL> ] KJ[: IDE? RAD? editor + compiler?
[07:33] <immolo> XiXaQ, no way get ubuntu up and running and use the year to be ahead of everyone else
[07:33] <Darkvador> so, i'll rephrase: anybody knows of a good data recovery tool on linux please? My windows HD keeps giving me crc errors when I try to copy something from it
[07:34] <] KJ[> erUSUL: i would preffer a RAD
[07:34] <erUSUL> ] KJ[: which lenguage?
[07:34] <] KJ[> c would be ok
[07:34] <rem__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13158
[07:34] <edgardpacheco> Ok thanks!
[07:34] <mwh_> hello to everybody, anyone know how to configure ubuntu 5.10 to use fixed dns with dhcp? .. in the graphical interface I cant choose to use fixed dns :(
[07:34] <Tomze> Darkvador: i know about two distros - take a look at them and what tools they use : RIP + System rescue CD
[07:34] <mumbles_laptop> im goign to serch again
[07:34] <immolo> XiXaQ, can you boot from floppy or usb drive?
[07:34] <XiXaQ> immolo, well, 5.10 does not work. 5.04 worked just fine, but that wasn't as nice. And I don't have the time to install the livecd onto my disk. There's way to much I need to learn first.
[07:34] <alpa> hey i m getting a fatal error as default font fixed when i try opening vncserver.. can anyone help me?
[07:35] <CarlFK> ] KJ[: check out dabodev.com - may be what you are looking for
[07:35] <XiXaQ> immolo, I don't have floppy. I have USB drive, but not with os on it.
[07:35] <erUSUL> ] KJ[: anjuta, kdevelop, eclipse, emacs ;), vdk builder... etc
[07:35] <Tomze> LOL - #ubuntu is crasy :-) Lots of beginners here... nice
[07:35] <Darkvador> thanks Tomze
[07:35] <iceman> How to Mount a UNIX "OPENSTEP harddrive ? anyone
[07:35] <Tomze> Darkvador: good luck :-)
[07:35] <jadid> Hi all
[07:35] <Das-Herrkurm> how do i cange permissions on folders? in wiki there is some text only about files
[07:35] <Darkvador> thx
[07:35] <jadid> this is the first ubuntu connection to the internet
[07:35] <XiXaQ> Tomze, does that have K3B or something?
[07:35] <Darkvador> i'll be needing it
[07:36] <DBO> rem__, does "apt-cache search xubuntu-desktop" turn anything up?
[07:36] <] KJ[> thx - i'll try to document them :)
[07:36] <jadid> in fact i am using vmwareplayer on windows xp
[07:36] <slavik> yes
[07:36] <jadid> my modem is usb
[07:36] <] KJ[> I have on more problem
[07:36] <Tomze> XiXaQ: yep
[07:36] <] KJ[> my vlc player sound don't get started all the time
[07:36] <] KJ[> sometime I have no sound
[07:36] <] KJ[> I have to mess around with audio channels
[07:36] <Tomze> sudo alsaconf ?
[07:37] <XiXaQ> Tomze, then thanks. I have that somewhere. I'll try and boot that.
[07:37] <jadid> so i set up the ubuntu and xp connection and now i am using ubuntu on windows xp and connected to internet!
[07:37] <immolo> XiXaQ, can you boot from usb drives?
[07:37] <iceman> I amy goint to try to access a unix drive from the live cd ... and modify the config files for networking
[07:37] <] KJ[> or if I close the movie and restart vlc i'm getting the sound
[07:37] <mumbles_laptop> DBO,  this is the output from lspci -n 0000:06:09.0 0607: 1524:1410 (rev 01)
[07:38] <] KJ[> other programs have no problem with sound
[07:38] <] KJ[> only vlc seems to do this
[07:38] <Das-Herrkurm> how could i change the permissions on whole folders? in ubuntu wiki was only some cmds about single files
[07:38] <DBO> mumbles_laptop, try that without the -n
[07:38] <edgardpacheco> i have just installed firefox from apt-get, and i click on the firefox icon and it gives me an error
[07:38] <edgardpacheco> what should i do?
[07:38] <erUSUL> Das-Herrkurm: add -R (for recursibily) to the chmod command
[07:38] <DBO> edgardpacheco, what error?
[07:39] <Tomze> Das-Herrkurm: chown -R Das-Herrkurm:users /some/dir
[07:39] <ic56> Das-Herrkurm: the same commands change file permissions apply to folders too.
[07:39] <jadid> ok bye i see that my enthusiasm is not contagious
[07:39] <edgardpacheco> the file or folder doens't exists!
[07:39] <kinga> pls help how to adjust display position on the laptop
[07:39] <kinga> this drives me crazy
[07:39] <DBO> beautiful
[07:39] <Das-Herrkurm> the cmd looks like "chmod ugo+rwx file"
[07:39] <slackgen> monomaniacpat: i sent you what i got
[07:39] <Das-Herrkurm> where should i add the -R?
[07:39] <aljoshanl>  I want to downsample a dir of mp3s, but it doesnt work, im trying this commadn: lame -b 64 --mp3input *.mp3 out/
[07:39] <paniq> hey, where can i get libneon 0.25.5 from?
[07:39] <DBO> edgardpacheco, open a terminal and type firefox
[07:39] <erUSUL> Das-Herrkurm: "chmod ugo+rwx file"
[07:39] <erUSUL> 19:39 < slackgen> monomaniacpat: i sent you what i got
[07:40] <arrick> morn DBO
[07:40] <edgardpacheco> i did and it says this : "sudo find / -name firefox"
[07:40] <edgardpacheco> sorry
[07:40] <edgardpacheco> it says
[07:40] <Tomze> aljoshanl: tey #lame maybe ?
[07:40] <edgardpacheco> bash: firefox: command not found
[07:40] <DBO> morn arrick, Im sucking up a tech support storm... goes to show how little I know about wireless
[07:40] <arrick> haha
[07:40] <mumbles_laptop> dbo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13160
[07:40] <edgardpacheco> i tiped on the terminal firefox and it said "bash: firefox: command not found
[07:40] <edgardpacheco> "
[07:40] <DBO> edgardpacheco, "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[07:41] <arrick> edgardpacheco, you gotta be in the firefo dir to run that
[07:41] <Tomze> edgardpacheco: sudo locate firefox maybe
[07:41] <edgardpacheco> ok
[07:41] <nemoo> if I do a apt-get remove mdadm I get
[07:41] <nemoo> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[07:41] <nemoo> initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 mdadm ubuntu-minimal
[07:41] <edgardpacheco> i will try
[07:41] <nemoo> wouldnt that be really shit if it removes all that? :D
[07:41] <Tomze> edgardpacheco: wheris maybe
[07:41] <DBO> !tell nemoo about enter
[07:42] <arrick> edgardpacheco, how about which firefox
[07:42] <maccam94> is there a way to change which drivers modprobe loads at bootup?
[07:43] <rem__> anyone?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13159
[07:43] <nemoo> oke, sorry
[07:43] <DBO> rem__, did you see if apt-cache search xubuntu-desktop turned it up?
[07:43] <alpa>  hey i m getting a fatal error as default font fixed when i try opening vncserver.. can anyone help me?
[07:43] <nemoo> but can someone tell me what I should do?
[07:43] <nemoo> :D
[07:44] <DBO> nemoo, why are you removing it?
[07:44] <hexaflouride> lol how do u get to a external USB HD in ubuntu
[07:44] <nemoo> because I dont run a raid, and its trying to run one on startup
[07:44] <mumbles_laptop> right
[07:44] <mumbles_laptop> im out
[07:44] <DBO> nemoo, just disable it from starting up
[07:44] <DBO> mumbles_laptop, Im terribly sorry...
[07:44] <mumbles-lap-out> DBO,  - got to go and help out at scouts
[07:44] <nemoo> how would I go around doing that?
[07:45] <mumbles-lap-out> I WILL get this thing to work though
[07:45] <dj_baggio> Sb saw GOSUB? :)
[07:45] <Wolvenhaven> !wireless
[07:45] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[07:45] <DBO> nemoo, "sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf" then "sudo sysv-rc-conf" then uncheck it in there
[07:45] <kylewardell> where can i get good games?
[07:45] <edgardpacheco> it worked, thanks!
[07:45] <minerale> I'm getting segmentation faults left and right when surfing the web... Ubuntuamd64
[07:45] <nemoo> cheers man!
[07:45] <Guma> !gtkdc
[07:45] <ubotu> Guma: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:46] <edgardpacheco> what is the webpage where it says how to install firefox 1.5?
[07:46] <kinga> still no luck with display position on laptop :(
[07:46] <DBO> !tell edgardpacheco about FF1.5
[07:46] <kinga> found sth named xvidtune but it didnt work
[07:46] <edgardpacheco> thanks
[07:46] <nemoo> no such package hehe
[07:46] <DBO> nemoo, have you enabled universe repos?
[07:47] <DBO> !tell nemoo about repos
[07:47] <mwh_> hello to everybody, anyone know how to configure ubuntu 5.10 to use fixed dns with dhcp? .. in the graphical interface I cant choose to use fixed dns :(
[07:47] <jablotronik> how to use ? No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[07:47] <hexaflouride> lol how do u get to a external USB HD in ubuntu gotten everything else to work ;/
[07:47] <DBO> mwh_, just modify /etc/resolv.conf to your likings
[07:47] <nemoo> ah yeah, I didnt I think
[07:48] <Das-Herrkurm> thx a lot for the help with folder permissions :D
[07:48] <xixaq> ok. Now I need to know how I can remove the PCLinuxOS cd from the drive so that I can burn the ubuntu installation cd.
[07:48] <erUSUL> DBO: nwh_ from resolv.conf *#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN *
[07:48] <mwh_> DBO, but that does only work temporarily
[07:48] <DBO> not if you make it read only =P
[07:48] <mwh_> DBO, you see dhcp pools for the information one in a while and updates /etc/resolv.conf
[07:49] <mwh_> DBO, yes your right that might be a solution
[07:49] <mwh_> DBO, but for me it looks like a bit of a hack ;) .. anyways your right
[07:50] <DBO> mwh_, meh, when I was your age, we had to walk to Unix on two hacks and a stick, and we had ot share the hacks!
[07:50] <XiXaQ> it seems as though the PC Linux OS CD needs to be in the driver as well.
[07:50] <whaley> hexaflouride, my memory is foggy on this, but in my case i had to create an entry in fstab
[07:50] <DBO> what is your case?
[07:51] <whaley> although, this is cause my usb disk came as ntfs
[07:51] <whaley> and i formatted it for ext3
[07:51] <DBO> oh nevermind, I misread, forget i said anything
[07:51] <scifi> can anyone recommend a theme for me to use for gnome ?
[07:52] <DBO> I like blended + d3a + glass icons
[07:52] <NRG88> highvoltage, i have a multimedia keyboard, and on the volume change it only modifies the master mono. how can i set it to modify the PCM?
[07:52] <_jason> scifi: check gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org
[07:52] <mwh_> DBO, how old are you ? ;)
[07:52] <scifi> i quite like candido
[07:52] <NRG88> or where do i set it?
[07:52] <DBO> mwh_, younger than you
[07:52] <scifi> _jason: yeh looking thru them...hard to decide tho :P
[07:52] <mwh_> DBO, realy .. ...
[07:52] <DBO> mwh_, 22 =P
[07:52] <_jason> scifi: I always liked clearlooks with tango icons myself
[07:53] <mwh_> :) ... que edad buena :) .. i'm 25
[07:53] <scifi> DBO: yeh i saw blended, but i can use diff icons ?
[07:53] <XiXaQ> hehe, I dont think my company will ever make the transition from windows to ubuntu after this. Its alot more likely that Ill get fired. :)
[07:53] <DBO> scifi, oh yes, you can mix and match
[07:53] <mwh_> hasta luego folks
[07:53] <scifi> not 100% sure exactly how themes work in ubuntu
[07:53] <scifi> k kewl
[07:53] <ompaul> XiXaQ, what have you done?
[07:54] <_jason> XiXaQ: can't you burn the cd on windows? or wahtever the OS on the ahrd drive is?
[07:54] <XiXaQ> ompaul: spent a week trying to install 5.10 instead of doing actual work.
[07:54] <norhted> hi i want to compile some codes that i wrote on my x64 machines
[07:54] <ompaul> XiXaQ, it does not take a week to install an O/S
[07:54] <XiXaQ> jason: there is no operating system on my drives after the ubuntu installation chrashed.
[07:54] <norhted> but i want them to be compiled in x86 mode
[07:54] <_jason> XiXaQ: oh I see
[07:54] <XiXaQ> ompaul: then please tell me how to fix the installation cd.
[07:55] <rem__> trying clean and update again ..
[07:55] <norhted> i used -m32 options of gcc however i need help
[07:55] <jimjim> anyone know of a way to set AGP speed when using fglrx? (BIOS does not have AGP speed option)
[07:55] <XiXaQ> rem__: Ive run the installation from eight different cds burned with different cd recorders, and the images downloaded from different sites.
[07:55] <rem__> no luck
[07:55] <_jason> XiXaQ: what speed did you burn at?
[07:55] <rem__> ..and ?
[07:56] <XiXaQ> jason_
[07:56] <XiXaQ> ?
[07:56] <norhted> help
[07:56] <_jason> XiXaQ: like 2x 4x 32x 52x ... ?
[07:56] <rem__> lol...I wasnt refering to u  ..
[07:56] <rem__> I'm having problems with apt ..
[07:56] <capiCrimm> how do I use 7zip(p7zip) to unzip files. I can't seem to find a man page... :\
[07:56] <XiXaQ> jason: I dont know, but according to Nero and other burning software, there is nothing wrong with the cd.
[07:57] <Plouj> how do I search for a ubuntu group on google groups?
[07:57] <Plouj> o_O
[07:57] <DBO> rem__, did you ever try apt-cache (if you answered without saying my name I missed it)
[07:57] <XiXaQ> jason, and according to the md5 sums, there is nothing wrong with the iso.
[07:57] <scifi> yeh clear-looks seems nice, so i can download tango icons and try them? (not their in default list)
[07:57] <Spliffster> is anyone here running an x console in a gnome panel ? if so ... .how?
[07:57] <DBO> scifi, yes you can, also try clearlooks 2, its nice =)
[07:57] <_jason> XiXaQ: they should be burned at no higher than 4x
[07:58] <XiXaQ> hm
[07:58] <slaterock> what's the preferred way of getting 3d acceleration on a 9000 igp in dapper?
[07:58] <_jason> capiCrimm: man 7z
[07:58] <DBO> !dapper
[07:58] <ompaul> XiXaQ, so my question is at what stage of the install does it fall over
[07:58] <Tomze> XiXaQ: try to search google for md5sum - there is a program for windows to check if your iso is okay
[07:58] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[07:59] <XiXaQ> Tomze: the iso is ij,
[07:59] <XiXaQ> \ok.
[07:59] <_jason> capiCrimm: if you install p7zip the archive manager should be able to open 7zip files after that too, may be easier
[07:59] <slaterock> anyone here an ati driver expert?
[07:59] <slaterock> or radeon?
[07:59] <Tomze> XiXaQ: did you check md5sum ?
[08:00] <XiXaQ> Tomze: third time: yes.. All of the isos have been tested.
[08:00] <Tomze> XiXaQ: sorry my friend :)
[08:00] <Wolvenhaven> ok, ive been reading all the wiki's on getting my wireless card setup and that stuff, ive also been reading the forum, im getting conflicting instructions and none of them seem to work
[08:01] <kbrooks> Wolvenhaven: beware of the forum
[08:01] <DBO> trust the wiki, the forum... is dangerous
[08:01] <slackgen> Wolvenhaven: what is wrong with your wireless card?
[08:01] <kbrooks> dbo: how come
[08:02] <Wolvenhaven> pretty much everything wants me to get an ndiswrapper, but i dont have a hardline to the computer, so i cant dl it, and i cant get it to work in xp
[08:02] <Wolvenhaven> im trying to get the drivers for ubuntu for it
[08:02] <XiXaQ> ompaul: I dont remember the exact words, but something like this: Locale is up to date. 0 installed, 0 updated, 0 removed and 0 something else. Iso-something is up to date. 0 installed, 0 updated, 0 removed and 0 something else. This repeats it self for ever.
[08:02] <DBO> kbrooks, amoung other things they pimp tix likes its from god himself =P
[08:02] <Spliffster> anyone knows how to rund an xconsole in a gnome panel ?
[08:02] <_jason> DBO: tix?
[08:02] <DBO> automatix
[08:02] <kbrooks> MenZa: prodded! wassup
[08:02] <Spliffster> s/rund/run/
[08:03] <_jason> oh...
[08:03] <kbrooks> dbo: AX SUX. EU rules
[08:03] <munzir> Hi, is there a document on who to install edgy on chroot? or there is not edgy yet?
[08:03] <scifi> ok i downloaded 32659-clearlooks-metacity-2.1.tar.gz, now how do i install  it ? :P
[08:03] <kbrooks> !easyubuntu
[08:03] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[08:03] <MenZa> kbrooks: just asking for help in the dapper chan.
[08:03] <DBO> kbrooks, yes, Im quite aware of the dangers of tix... that was the point I was making...
[08:03] <Da_Putzler> Hi folk, has anyone succesfully shared an Internet Connection using Firestarter ???
[08:03] <Apostle^> munzir: lol i don't think you want to try after dapper, i'm sure it's as broken as possible
[08:03] <XiXaQ> ompaul: in the installer, it sais Configuring apt (I think) 25%
[08:04] <kbrooks> !edgy
[08:04] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html
[08:04] <rem__> getting nuts here....one pc with same rep as the other one sees packages that the other one doesnt see ...!!!
[08:04] <rem__> same sources ..
[08:05] <kbrooks> i want kde. how do i get it?
[08:05] <XiXaQ> kbrooks: install kubuntu if youre able to.
[08:05] <Da_Putzler> Can someone help me with a Firestarter problem please ?
[08:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kbrooks: or install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package
[08:05] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: how in ubuntu?
[08:05] <munzir> kbrooks: yes I saw the announcement but can I install it on chroot now?
[08:05] <slackgen> rem__: so download it and install then take the files it downloads, burn em to a cd and install with dpkg
[08:05] <kbrooks> Da_Putzler: Ask
[08:06] <kbrooks> munzir: No. repo not open yet
[08:06] <munzir> kbrooks: aha! how can I know this?
[08:06] <XiXaQ> kbrooks: oh sorry. Dont know. I thought that was the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu.
[08:06] <Tarantulafudge> when will ubuntu officially move to initNG ?
[08:06] <rem__> I guess ill have to...the thing is that there are many packages ... It might get tricky ..
[08:06] <phrowzen> hey
[08:06] <XiXaQ> and I still dont have a fucking OS!!@!
[08:07] <kbrooks> XiXaQ:
[08:07] <rem__> what puzzles me is that there are packages from the main rep that it doesnt see. .. but others it does.. so it works but only half ..
[08:07] <Da_Putzler> I have my wireless card setup as 192.168.0.1 and my eth0 as dchp
[08:07] <kbrooks> !language
[08:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[08:07] <Da_Putzler> but Firestarter wont share internet connectin properly... help
[08:07] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: and thanks for heeding the above
[08:07] <rem__> there is no logic in this ...
[08:07] <phrowzen> does anyone know why 'xbindkeys' seems to break my side mouse buttons on my mx510 mouse? if i use xev to see the response of hitting the 2 side mouise buttons, i get buttons 6 and 7... as soon as i launch xbindkeys which map my mouse 6 and 7 buttons, xev just shows a 'leavenotify' event...
[08:08] <XiXaQ> kbrooks: ?
[08:08] <devscott-laptop> Does anyone know of a good howto on getting linux setup so that my server account/profile will be used on my laptop when I connect to the network?
[08:09] <scifi> ok i downloaded 32659-clearlooks-metacity-2.1.tar.gz, now how do i install  it ? :P
[08:09] <XiXaQ> kbrooks: ah, thank you. I just think its odd that Ubuntu helpchannel advices me to install pc linux os instead.
[08:09] <Da_Putzler> What's the easiest way to share an internet connection ??? I tried Firestarter and it wont work, please help
[08:09] <ompaul> XiXaQ, no matter what we don't do bad language that is all, we can communicate without it
[08:10] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: ubuntu is a linux operating system
[08:10] <Tomze> XiXaQ: im not the ubuntu panel !
[08:10] <ompaul> XiXaQ, question have you tried to install it as a server and then move it to a desktop?
[08:10] <alpa> i m getting errors as: Fatal server error:could not open default font 'fixed'.. how do i use vncserver?
[08:11] <SAM_theman> how do i remove kubnunu peroid
[08:11] <XiXaQ> ompaul: I dont understand what you mean. I have one pc here.
[08:11] <edgardpacheco> how do i make a folder in /usr/local?
[08:11] <ompaul> XiXaQ, okay with the install, there is a point right at the start of the session where the install pauses
[08:11] <nalioth> edgardpacheco: you should not do anything outside of your home directory
[08:11] <acerz> hi! is it possible to install ubuntu from within windows? (like for ex a downloaded image) because i have no working boot media? any ideas?
[08:11] <devscott-laptop> edgardpacheco: sudo mkdir /usr/local/my_folder_name
[08:11] <XiXaQ> ompaul: ok?
[08:11] <edgardpacheco> i have to make that folder so i can install adobe reader
[08:11] <edgardpacheco> thanks
[08:11] <slackgen> acerz: no. some linux distros are windows-installable though
[08:12] <ompaul> XiXaQ, you can type server there, later install the gui
[08:12] <nalioth> edgardpacheco: are you installing adobe reader for all 17 dozen folks on your box?
[08:12] <acerz> slackern, ok do you know any example?
[08:12] <edgardpacheco> i don't understand what you mean :S
[08:12] <SAM_theman> how do i remove kubnunu peroid
[08:12] <nalioth> edgardpacheco: how many users use your computer?
[08:12] <aljoshanl> how can i convert all spaces into underscores with a script?
[08:12] <edgardpacheco> me only
[08:13] <SAM_theman> i did kubuntu-desktop remove
[08:13] <SAM_theman> but it just did 1 file
[08:13] <scifi> pls anyone ?
[08:13] <ompaul> XiXaQ, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge
[08:13] <acerz> slacken , ok do you know any example (distro)?
[08:13] <aljoshanl> SAM_theman: that only removes the references
[08:13] <nalioth> edgardpacheco: then installing adobe reader in your home dir will work fine
[08:13] <devscott-laptop> aljoshanl: in what language?
[08:13] <SAM_theman> how i remove everything with kde in it
[08:13] <gunpowda> hey
[08:14] <_jason> aljoshanl: in file names or in the file contents?
[08:14] <edgardpacheco> oh ok thanks!
[08:14] <gunpowda> I can write files to my ipod using the terminal after sudo su
[08:14] <edgardpacheco> i already installed it anyways
[08:14] <aljoshanl> I have a directory with files which contain spaces. I want them to be converted in underscores. Im hoping for some kind of bash command...
[08:14] <nalioth> edgardpacheco: your home directory belongs to you to do with what you like.  changing and adding things anywhere else can lead to system failures
[08:14] <gunpowda> how can I give myself the same permissions in the gui?
[08:14] <scifi> ok i downloaded 32659-clearlooks-metacity-2.1.tar.gz, now how do i install  it ? :P
[08:14] <edgardpacheco> i had to give chmod 777 permissions to the folder
[08:14] <Da_Putzler> Can someone help me to share an internet connection using Firestarter ???
[08:14] <hexaflouride> where in the filesystem do USB drives show up
[08:14] <ompaul> !tell acerz about networkinstall
[08:14] <_jason> aljoshanl: rename command would do that easily
[08:14] <devscott-laptop> edgardpacheco: you had to do that on /user/local/your_dir?
[08:14] <XiXaQ> ompaul: Ill never be able to convince my boss that ubuntu is a good alternative to windows if I have to go through all that just to install the system. Guess Ill wait a year or two and try again. Or maybe install some other linux environment. Actually, ubuntu 5.10 is the first distro I havent been able to install here. Very strange.
[08:14] <edgardpacheco> yes
[08:15] <acerz> ompaul, thank you!
[08:15] <edgardpacheco> because in the installation terminal it said "permission denied"
[08:15] <slackgen> Da_Putzler: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[08:15] <aljoshanl> _jason: could you post me an example? Im a bash noob
[08:15] <svendelux> anyone know how to install KDX Server? *n00b*
[08:15] <munzir> SAM_theman: good question, I don't know please tell me if someone told you
[08:15] <edgardpacheco> i gave the chmod permissions and everything worked fine...
[08:15] <devscott-laptop> edgardpacheco: that is very bad. no _anyone_ has full control over that folder
[08:15] <gunpowda> I'm using a vmware player image
[08:15] <hexaflouride> its in device manager but i cant find it anywhere else
[08:15] <edgardpacheco> but i can't find from where i start the acrobat reader
[08:15] <nalioth> edgardpacheco: changing anything outside your home folder can cause your system to fail
[08:16] <gunpowda> or is that just not possible?
[08:16] <Da_Putzler> slackgen: been there and tried it, it doesnt work for some reason... dunno why ?
[08:16] <_jason> aljoshanl: for example, rename -n 'y/ /_/' *         That will only show you what it would do.  If it looks right, then run it again without the -n
[08:16] <ompaul> XiXaQ, well I then suggest you seriously check out the hardware I have 5 different boxes here and they all work and I know others using it on other hardware
[08:16] <edgardpacheco> oh
[08:16] <edgardpacheco> where do i find the adobe reader??
[08:16] <slackgen> Da_Putzler: oh sorry. no experiance with firestarter myself
[08:16] <MenZa> !acrobat
[08:16] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MenZa
[08:16] <aljoshanl> _jason:thanks
[08:16] <ompaul> edgardpacheco, evince
[08:16] <MenZa> !adobbereader
[08:16] <ubotu> MenZa: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:16] <MenZa> bah.
[08:16] <teclo> Hello. When printing to kprinter and creating a .pdf file, I only see the pictures in the .pdf file, not the text. How can I print the text too in the .pdf file ? Any ide ?
[08:16] <Steff_breezy> hi, is anyone interested in a screenshot of my desktop? (imageshack-link)
[08:16] <nalioth> edgardpacheco: i suspect you should not have done it the way you did.
[08:16] <kbrooks> !acrobatreader
[08:16] <ubotu> kbrooks: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:16] <edgardpacheco> what is evince?
[08:16] <MenZa> edgardpacheco: I think it's gPDF
[08:16] <kbrooks> Steff_breezy: i am
[08:16] <Da_Putzler> thx anyhows...
[08:16] <slackgen> edgardpacheco: evince is a pdf reader
[08:16] <ompaul> edgardpacheco, a reader for PDF
[08:16] <mythica> hi guys
[08:16] <devscott-laptop> edgardpacheco: evince is acroreader ++ :)
[08:16] <Steff_breezy> kbrooks, http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfoto2ni.jpg
[08:17] <mythica> I have mounted a drive
[08:17] <nalioth> edgardpacheco: evince or gpdf are fine PDF readers, and are included in the distro
[08:17] <gunpowda> I've also added myself to the disk group
[08:17] <kbrooks> how do I create a deskrtop background?
[08:17] <mythica> but I can't view it in the browser cos of permissions
[08:17] <daxxar> ubotu, private message?
[08:17] <ubotu> ok ;)
[08:17] <gunpowda> mythica, same kind of thing here...you should be able to view it
[08:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell daxxar about yourself
[08:17] <MenZa> Different, Steff_breezy -- nice though
[08:17] <gunpowda> but try the terminal
[08:17] <MenZa> I like your icon shades
[08:17] <edgardpacheco> oh
[08:17] <edgardpacheco> thanks
[08:17] <devscott-laptop> edgardpacheco: I believe you can do a sudo apt-get install evince if it's not install
[08:17] <MenZa> ...but your icons are massive.
[08:17] <edgardpacheco> ok
[08:18] <daxxar> Aww, sorry _jason. Why is that factoid there if you discourage its use?
[08:18] <edgardpacheco> i am now restoring the permissions that acrobat5 folder had
[08:18] <MenZa> Here's mine: http://www.menza.org/random/desk_april29_2006.png (nsfw)
[08:18] <edgardpacheco> i am giving 744 to that folder,
[08:18] <_jason> daxxar: which factoid?
[08:18] <edgardpacheco> is that ok?
[08:18] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, thanks, I just "re-desinged" it  :)
[08:18] <gimmulf__> Hi when i come back from XLOCK my mouse is gone and i only can use this terminal since i dont know how to switch windows wothout mouse and i really not want to reboot just to get my mouse working so is there sny command to get it going?
[08:18] <gimmulf__> im in gnome
[08:18] <daxxar> _jason, 'private message'. (or a bunch of others)
[08:18] <_jason> !forget private message
[08:18] <ubotu> _jason: i forgot private message
[08:18] <_jason> daxxar: ubotu has some useless stuff in him, we try to clean up when we find it
[08:19] <Flannel> to run fetchmail, do I have to move all my stuff to /etc/fetchmail? can I not have the init.d look in users home directories?
[08:19] <xknight> MenZa she's sexy
[08:19] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, the shades are within the wallpaper, the icons are not so large
[08:19] <MenZa> ah
[08:19] <daxxar> _jason, okay =)
[08:19] <MenZa> seems somewhat primitive.
[08:19] <MenZa> xknight: indeed.
[08:19] <kbrooks> Steff_breezy: how do i do that icon effect?
[08:19] <edgardpacheco> thanks !
[08:19] <edgardpacheco> i have another question.
[08:19] <MenZa> kbrooks: by drawing it on the wallpaper =)
[08:19] <edgardpacheco> i want to create a LUG here in cusco - peru
[08:20] <MenZa> Oh, I hate GIMP so hard ;\
[08:20] <edgardpacheco> in the guide it said that i had to post it on comp.os.linux.announce
[08:20] <Steff_breezy> kbrooks, its on the wallpaper done with gimp
[08:20] <edgardpacheco> i posted it,
[08:20] <daxxar> You should have some way of suggesting deletion of factoids or corrections, _jason. (On the webpage)
[08:20] <edgardpacheco> now what do i have to do?
[08:20] <kbrooks> Steff_breezy: heh
[08:20] <HymnToLife> to delete factoisds from ubotu, just type !forget fctoid
[08:20] <daxxar> _jason, like 'foo created by xyz on date (SuggestDelete, SuggestCorrection)'
[08:20] <kbrooks> daxxar: _jason doesnt own the bot
[08:20] <daxxar> Is it free-for-all? :-)
[08:21] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, yours is also nice
[08:21] <daxxar> kbrooks, s/_jason/whoever-runs-or-develops-the-bot/
[08:21] <devscott-laptop> edgardpacheco: whatever you want to do
[08:21] <Steff_breezy> kbrooks, hm?
[08:21] <gunpowda> would sudo nautilus work?
[08:21] <ompaul> _jason, a word in your shell like
[08:21] <nalioth> gunpowda: no it won't
[08:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gunpowda about gksudo
[08:21] <|stefan|> hi =) i've downloaded ndiswrapper-utils from packages.ubuntulinux.org and when i try to dpkg -i the package it says it's not a debian ardhive. what's wrong ? =)
[08:21] <gunpowda> thanks, I'll try that
[08:21] <edgardpacheco> ok
[08:21] <edgardpacheco> thanks!
[08:21] <edgardpacheco> bye
[08:22] <edgardpacheco> take care my good comrades
[08:22] <ompaul> edgardpacheco, hang on a sec
[08:22] <edgardpacheco> ompaul yes, don't worry
[08:22] <edgardpacheco> i am still here :)
[08:22] <iNiku> hey, anyone else have trouble with ifrename?
[08:23] <edgardpacheco> yes ompaul what is it?
[08:23] <ompaul> edgardpacheco, I am getting you a web page about lugs in peru
[08:23] <gunpowda> does ubuntu take as long to start up normally as it does in my VM?
[08:23] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, If you like desktop-girls such as on your desktop, I can give you the code of a wget-bash script, that sucks 1,5 Gig of them out of the web...  :)  (also nsfw)
[08:23] <gunpowda> if my VM didn't have saved states I'd get so impatient
[08:23] <MenZa> Steff_breezy: Oooooo
[08:23] <iNiku> it was screwing up my Cisco Aironet PCM-350
[08:23] <MenZa> Steff_breezy: send, send =D
[08:24] <ompaul> edgardpacheco, you might find this useful http://www.linux.org/groups/peru.html
[08:24] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, wait 1 sec
[08:24] <iNiku> gunpowda, breezy seems pretty slow in booting up, Moopere claims Dapper is faster.
[08:24] <iNiku> we'll see once my apt-get dist-upgrade finishes :D
[08:24] <edgardpacheco> thanks! :D ompaul
[08:25] <edgardpacheco> bye everyone
[08:25] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, I ve uploaded it, get it here: http://rapidshare.de/files/18190680/Steffis_Siterip.sh.html  , this is absolutely legal
[08:26] <kbrooks> Steff_breezy: lol
[08:26] <Steff_breezy> kbrooks, wget is very cool for sucking whole web sites... ;)
[08:26] <kbrooks> Steff_breezy: and
[08:26] <kbrooks> ?
[08:26] <teclo> Maybe is there a font missing ?
[08:27] <teclo> Do you know what fond I need to install ?
[08:27] <Steff_breezy> kbrooks, ?
[08:27] <teclo> Hello. When printing to kprinter and creating a .pdf file, I only see the pictures in the .pdf file, not the text. How can I print the text too in the .pdf file ? Perhaps am I missing some font ? Any idea ?
[08:28] <MenZa> Where does it place them, Steff_breezy?
[08:28] <MenZa> In the folder the .sh is in?
[08:28] <iNiku> teclo: sound like it, yeah
[08:29] <Steff_breezy> in the ubuntu forum there is a howto, to get a pdf-printer, should i look for the link?
[08:29] <teclo> iNiku: do you know what fond I need to install ?
[08:29] <iNiku> teclo: sorry, no idea
[08:30] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, look at the code, its easy, it makes a directory ~/siterip and place 1,5 Gig of pics there
[08:30] <usr13>  teclo: try lpr filename.pdf
[08:30] <Steff_breezy> teclo, in the ubuntu forum there is a howto, to get a pdf-printer, should i look for the link?
[08:30] <MenZa> Just executed it, Steff_breezy :)
[08:30] <MenZa> thanks
[08:30] <MenZa> I'll have fun browsing these.
[08:30] <teclo> Steff_breezy: ah taht's an idea...
[08:31] <SAM_theman> umount: only root can unmount /dev/hda from /media/cdrom0
[08:31] <SAM_theman> ?
[08:31] <gunpowda> do sudo umount...
[08:31] <SAM_theman> I am trying to mount my BF1 CD 1
[08:31] <iNiku> usr13, don't think tecol is trying to print a pdf, I think he's trying to create a pdf by printing
[08:31] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, yes, these pics are nice, the newer ones (higher numbers) get better quality
[08:31] <SAM_theman> *BF2 CD 1
[08:31] <iNiku> teclo
[08:31] <Luke> how do i rename devices made by hal?
[08:31] <Luke> mounted by hal*
[08:31] <MenZa> Steff_breezy: what res'es?
[08:31] <Steff_breezy> teclo, wait plx
[08:31] <MenZa> If it's <1600x1200...
[08:31] <Steff_breezy> teclo, wait pls
[08:31] <MenZa> grr.
[08:31] <MenZa> :)
[08:32] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, no not so big, just normal sizes
[08:32] <MenZa> aww
[08:32] <gunpowda> SAM_theman, umount unmounts
[08:33] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, works fine, doesnt it? leeches gallery after gallery, hm?
[08:33] <aze45> hi all, i'm looking for a ubuntu wiki admin, is there anyone ?
[08:33] <MenZa> Steff_breezy: yup.
[08:33] <MenZa> Sure does.
[08:33] <MenZa> I wonder how long it's gonna take.
[08:33] <aze45> i got a problem : i can't log in with my launchpad account
[08:33] <ompaul> aze45, whats on your mind  - I edit it now and again
[08:34] <aze45> ompaul: i got an account on launchpad, logged and edited on the wiki, changed my password on launchpad, and now can't login
[08:34] <ompaul> aze45, go to launchpad and request your password again
[08:34] <Kr0ntab> sup folks
[08:35] <gunpowda> hrm :/
[08:35] <aze45> i'll try it again, back in few minutes
[08:35] <gunpowda> ubuntu won't auto-mount my ipod
[08:35] <gunpowda> it mounts my nano though
[08:35] <TAW_Bug> My OS is booting into text mode after install... how do i switch it to the gui.. im using gnome
[08:35] <the_guy1> type gui
[08:35] <pierre-> TAW_Bug: startx?
[08:35] <Steff_breezy> if you have to interrupt, because it will take a while, just set the number for $count to where you stopped the next time you start it
[08:35] <Tedd> gunpowda: it does that sometimes, have you tried programs?
[08:35] <SAM_theman> How do i unistall kubuntu?
[08:36] <gunpowda> what's that command to view debug?
[08:36] <TAW_Bug> pierre: That worked ty
[08:36] <SAM_theman> the whole thing??
[08:36] <Tedd> SAM_theman: what do you mean?
[08:36] <gunpowda> Tedd, which programs?
[08:36] <Tedd> Such as, get rid of the entire OS?
[08:36] <Tedd> gunpowda: do a search in Synaptic for "IPod" and you'll find some good ones I think
[08:36] <SAM_theman> i did sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop and it did but kde apps are still there??
[08:36] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, read that? forgot to adress you
[08:36] <nalioth> SAM_theman: perhaps you'd be better off asking in #kubuntu
[08:37] <MenZa> Steff_breezy:  Err, missed it
[08:37] <SAM_theman> i tried remove kde,kde-base,kde-core
[08:37] <MenZa> Ah, right
[08:37] <Tedd> SAM_theman: what are you trying to do, install Gnome?
[08:37] <SAM_theman> no
[08:37] <SAM_theman> i am on it know
[08:37] <Tedd> get rid of the entire OS?
[08:37] <ProN00b> how do i play xm music files on ubuntu ?
[08:37] <SAM_theman> i tried kubuntu i didn't like it
[08:37] <SAM_theman> so i removeing it
[08:37] <gunpowda> what's that command to view debug?
[08:37] <pax> Steff_breezy:  yes, kubuntu-desktop is just meta package, will not remove everything that's KDE related
[08:37] <edgardpacheco> hi again
[08:37] <edgardpacheco> i have other question
[08:38] <edgardpacheco> i have a .mpg movie, what program do i need to have installed for seeing it?
[08:38] <aze45> ompaul: ok, can't login again.
[08:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell edgardpacheco about multimedia
[08:38] <Tedd> SAM_theman: use the Breezy OS disk, go into the partitioner, and delete all the partitions. Everything will be gone, and I do mean EVERYTHING: the os, and all files on the hard drive
[08:38] <Steff_breezy> teclo, HOW TO: Set up pdf printer, link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140815    works fine for me
[08:38] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, if you have to interrupt, because it will take a while, just set the number for $count to where you stopped the next time you start it
[08:39] <ompaul> aze45, did you get your new password?
[08:39] <MenZa> Yep, saw it :)
[08:39] <SAM_theman> very funnie
[08:39] <MenZa> Steff_breezy: Exactly where is it sent again?
[08:39] <aze45> ompaul: yes, i connect to launchpad, reset my password, and log to my account,
[08:39] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, ~/siterip, havent  looked there yet?
[08:39] <MenZa> Nope
[08:40] <aze45> ompaul: but when i go to wiki.ubuntu.com i can't login
[08:40] <ompaul> aze45, firefox?
[08:40] <aze45> ompaul: mozilla suite why ?
[08:40] <MenZa> Steff_breezy: ...er, ~ denotes previous dir, right?
[08:40] <Howitzer> What's the problem?
[08:40] <pax> SAM_theman: paste this command in terminal http://pastebin.com/690790
[08:40] <kbrooks> MenZa: no
[08:40] <Howitzer> i'm feeling helpfull
[08:40] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, your home directory/siterip
[08:40] <kbrooks> MenZa: .. denotes that
[08:41] <MenZa> right, right.
[08:41] <pax> oops I mean Steff_breezy
[08:41] <SAM_theman> thanks man
[08:41] <SAM_theman> these programs where the one still o
[08:41] <SAM_theman> After unpacking 317MB disk space will be freed.
[08:41] <SAM_theman> YES
[08:41] <SAM_theman> bye bye shit
[08:42] <aze45> ompaul: can try with galeon
[08:42] <pax> hehe
[08:43] <aze45> ompaul: same with galeon... what about links/elinks
[08:43] <Steff_breezy> pax, that was not so funny, maybe theres newbies here who do so. Admins, this guy is a bad bad boy
[08:43] <pax> Steff_breezy: what are you taking about?
[08:44] <pax> Steff_breezy: I think you are confused and need an asprin.
[08:44] <ompaul> aze45, well you might be able to do something like this: edit  preferences to see what you have in for launchpad and wiki - and check privacy and saved passwords - sorry not using mozilla, but firefox-mozilla so it might be similar
[08:44] <pierre-> i'm using centericq, it supports console command execution when some instant message arrives... how can i do it to show some nice box like gmail-notify does?
[08:44] <TAW_Bug> How do I view my network from console?
[08:44] <ompaul> aze45, you can view saved passwords and that can be useful
[08:45] <ProN00b> hey, can anyone help me, how do i play modtunes (chiptunes) with a .xm extension on ubuntu ??
[08:45] <Steff_breezy> pax, oh, Im very sorry, I thought you wanted me to sudo everything in a terminal, didnt notice that this was a useful removal
[08:45] <Steff_breezy> pax, sorry pal
[08:45] <pax> Steff_breezy: that was another person, and I don't think you have kubuntu installed. np :)
[08:46] <SAM_theman> brb rebooting
[08:46] <aze45> ompaul: the problem is i have already checked this type of thing, i just tried with galeon, and firefox (nor moz-suite) and i got the same "wrong password" error. moreover, i use a password manager (revelation) so i _know_ my launchpad password
[08:47] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, found everything?
[08:48] <Iskandar> hi to all
[08:48] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, busy watching gallerys?  ;P
[08:48] <Iskandar> i would like to install ubuntu on a laptop asus
[08:48] <Iskandar> some suggestion
[08:48] <ctothej> anyone want to help me troubleshoot a problem with x?
[08:48] <Tedd> Iskandar: Go right ahead, you don't need permission :P
[08:48] <Iskandar> i know
[08:49] <Tedd> That's a joke, dude. So, what do you need? Maybe I can help you.
[08:49] <Iskandar> i have already installed many version of ubuntu on desktop but
[08:49] <polpak> !tell ctothej about anyone
[08:49] <ompaul> aze45, your missing my point, your browser needs all its passwords for wiki deleted it may have something there then you can start again
[08:49] <Iskandar> someone told me that on laptop is quite different
[08:49] <Tedd> Iskandar, it's a gamble
[08:49] <_jason> Iskandar: not really
[08:49] <Tedd> You can't really tell
[08:49] <Tedd> Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't; I've heard horror stories and stories of "Damn this was easy"
[08:50] <aze45> ompaul: what? maybe, my password is in my browser password manager? i check now
[08:50] <ctothej> heh. yep channel newb lol
[08:50] <Iskandar> i wonder if i will have problem with drivers
[08:50] <Tedd> Only problem I've ever gotten from the Ubuntu installer on myd esktop is the Debootstrap error.
[08:50] <Tedd> And that was fixed by not having a swap space
[08:50] <Shigutso> neither my XMMS or my Rythmnbox are playing .WAV files. MPlayer played, but very bad. I already downloaded the codecs for Restricted Formats at wiki.ubuntu.com. What should I do?
[08:50] <teclo> Steff_breezy: hello
[08:50] <aze45> ompaul: i'll erase all my launchpad+wiki passwords
[08:51] <Tedd> Shigutso: do you have w32codecs installed?
[08:51] <teclo> Steff_breezy: still doens't work... :/
[08:51] <Shigutso> Tedd: yes...!
[08:51] <SAM_theman> Yup its gone
[08:51] <ctothej> x server fails on boot with this error: "fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found". I have an ATI X1000 Series card and updated the driver using apt-get and gflrx.
[08:51] <Iskandar> if i use the live cd can i test all the drivers?
[08:51] <Steff_breezy> teclo, have you tried the Howto?
[08:51] <Tedd> Shigutso: sorry, I don't use .wav files, just trying to help
[08:51] <gunpowda> I don't understand why my ipod can't mount
[08:51] <Shigutso> Tedd: oh ok... thx anyway :)
[08:51] <teclo> Steff_breezy: if I go into System Settings > Printers, I can see six printers, including "Print to File" PDF, but I only see the first printer in the Mozilla print menu
[08:52] <gunpowda> I installed gtkipod, which hasn't been able to find it either
[08:52] <Steff_breezy> teclo, you can use pdf for a printer then
[08:52] <ompaul> aze45, just wiki your launchpad works - unless it suits you to start from scratch
[08:52] <mythica> where do i find the modules configuration file?
[08:52] <scifi> i have found a really nice 1600X1200 wallpaper, but i can be resized to 1024X768 ?
[08:52] <Steff_breezy> teclo, tried to restart mozilla?
[08:52] <scifi> it*
[08:52] <Tedd> scifi: yes
[08:52] <mythica> on fedora i know its /etc/modprobe.conf
[08:52] <teclo> Steff_breezy: ah, let's restart mozilla then
[08:52] <polpak> ctothej: can you pastebin the output of lspci ?
[08:52] <Tedd> scifi: Just right-click your desktop, navigate to it, and just put it on "stretch"
[08:52] <bbrazil> scifi: convert -resize 1024x768 old.png new.png
[08:52] <ctothej> if anyone has configured a recent ATI card on ubuntu, i would really appreciate a little help or a PM
[08:52] <SAM_theman> scifi send it to me
[08:52] <polpak> !tell ctothej about pastebin
[08:53] <Flannel> to run fetchmail (as a daemon), do I have to move all my config stuff to /etc/fetchmailrc? can I not have the init.d look in users home directories?
[08:53] <SAM_theman> let me check it out
[08:53] <SAM_theman> please
[08:53] <Tedd> bbrazil: that's not even necesary, is it?
[08:53] <aze45> ompaul: "just wiki your launchpad works" - i don't understand ?
[08:53] <bbrazil> Tedd: I don't know, but it is hte most general solution
[08:53] <Iskandar> i don't remember ctothej where was the site but i read something about the high resolution
[08:54] <Iskandar> you have to install new device to enable high resolution
[08:54] <Tedd> scifi: right click your desktop, click 'new background' or something like that, and just use the window to navigate to it, and set it as stretch, that should work
[08:54] <ctothej> polpak: ...
[08:54] <ctothej> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 79
[08:54] <ctothej> 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 7269
[08:54] <ctothej> ...
[08:54] <teclo> Steff_breezy: still the same problem
[08:54] <polpak> ctothej: use pastebin next time pls
[08:54] <scifi> Tedd: yeh gonna try that 1st :)
[08:54] <ctothej> dont know how...
[08:54] <Tedd> :P
[08:54] <teclo> Steff_breezy: ....if I go into System Settings > Printers, I can see six printers, including "Print to File" PDF, but I only see the first printer in the Mozilla print menu
[08:54] <Tedd> ctothej: paste.ubuntu.nl
[08:54] <polpak> ctothej: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[08:54] <Tedd> errr
[08:54] <Shigutso> is it safe to install aMSN 0.95, even if there is only the 0.94 version to "safelly download"??
[08:55] <Tedd> ctothej: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:55] <Steff_breezy> teclo, try to print a test page with the new pdf printer, try to use it from another app
[08:55] <aze45> ompaul: now, i got a problem, i can't login on launchpad, i'll try the recover password one more time
[08:55] <ctothej> ohh nice. yes i can...
[08:55] <ompaul> aze45, then wipe both
[08:55] <ompaul> aze45, from your browser and wait 10 minutes before you start again
[08:56] <Iskandar> have ou installed the propetary ati driver for linux?
[08:56] <teclo> Steff_breezy: in OpenOffice also, I see only one printer
[08:56] <gunpowda> is there a location bar where I can type in paths on nautilus?
[08:56] <landwalker> ijwdi
[08:57] <Iskandar> ok i try the installation on the asus M6000
[08:57] <ctothej> polpak, pasted xorg.conf under name ctothej
[08:57] <Steff_breezy> teclo, hmm, test page from the printer works?
[08:57] <Iskandar> laptop
[08:57] <teclo> Steff_breezy: question... all that stuff in the howto... to add a printer... is it in kde's "Printers" ... or in cups ?
[08:57] <polpak> ctothej: it should have given you a url?
[08:57] <Iskandar> wish me good luck
[08:57] <Shigutso> is it safe to install aMSN 0.95, even if there is only the 0.94 version to "safelly download" in Ubuntu repositories??
[08:57] <Tedd> Iskandar: good luck, dude :P
[08:57] <polpak> ctothej: have you installed the fglrx driver from the wiki instructions already?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> gunpowda: you should beable to use the search button for that
[08:57] <ctothej> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13170
[08:57] <Iskandar> i'll tell you how many device i'll succeed to bring up
[08:57] <ctothej> polpak, yes i have
[08:58] <arrick> gnomefreak, how are you this fine day?
[08:58] <SAM_theman> guys i am having a mager problem
[08:58] <Iskandar> bye
[08:58] <gnomefreak> arrick: tired but good and you?
[08:58] <SAM_theman> I am not able to hear my game sounds
[08:58] <scifi> Tedd: the options are "centrd", "fill-screen", "tiled" or "scaled", so which is best ?
[08:58] <Tedd> Fill-screen.
[08:58] <Tedd> Brb, switching to KVIrc
[08:58] <arrick> wide awake gnomefreak, working on my website
[08:58] <arrick> gotta update
[08:58] <SAM_theman> like exmaple et(enemy Territory) there is no sound comming for it and it plays well
[08:58] <ctothej> polpak, note: i have xorg.conf set up for 2 screens, both outputs from the same card
[08:59] <gnomefreak> i have been working on mine for last 2 days lol
[08:59] <polpak> ctothej: I see that, though I don't think it's set up quite right there
[08:59] <H_Bug> I need to configure my network to change my workgroup.. i have a windowz box next to me and both comps are comected by my *nix box shows up in a mdkgroup and my windows box shows up in other workgroup.. where do i edit my workground in *nix?
[08:59] <mythica> where do i find the modules configuration file?
[09:00] <polpak> ctothej: but firstly.. pastebin the output of lsmod
[09:00] <aze45> ompaul: its drive me nuts! i will wait a little (10min - why?) to see if my new password at launchpad got effective on wiki
[09:00] <mythica> i am following an install guide and need to figure out where to write all this stuff to
[09:00] <linme> hi
[09:00] <scifi> Tedd: actually scaled looks no different to fill-screen. really happy with it though :D
[09:00] <gnomefreak> hi
[09:00] <Steff_breezy> well, I think adding a printer this way will add it for kds also, but Im no kde expert
[09:00] <ctothej> poppak, is there a way to do that straight from the linux command line? thats a long list and I am using my laptop for talking here..
[09:01] <Shigutso> is it safe to install aMSN 0.95, even if there is only the 0.94 version to "safelly download" in Ubuntu repositories??
[09:01] <polpak> ctothej: is your laptop using ubuntu also?
[09:01] <ctothej> no.
[09:01] <bbrazil> H_Bug: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:01] <linme> i downloaded NetBeans for linux but i'm not able to install... its a sh file but it opens in xpad...
[09:02] <ctothej> polpak, but, i have the network configured on ubuntu and used ftp to send xorg.conf to the net so i could paste it.
[09:02] <polpak> ctothej: that's unfortunate.. Still... Install openssh-server on the desktop computer, then ssh to it (using a free windows app like putty, or just the terminal on a mac)
[09:02] <polpak> ctothej: then you can copy paste from the ssh terminal window
[09:02] <linme> how to install sh file
[09:02] <munzir> pax: why should apt-get remove kubunt-desktop remove all kde packages? isn't this why metapackages are useful?
[09:03] <Killaz> guys I followed the help on the ubuntu forum for etting up a SSL enabled apache but I keep getting a 404 Error can one of you help me?
[09:03] <scifi> hey guys what does a mounted drive look like using the tango icon them ?
[09:03] <ctothej> polpak, ah nice. going to need some quick help with the linux part of that...
[09:03] <Flannel> munzir: correct.  kubuntu-desktop won't remove anything except the meta package.
[09:03] <Steff_breezy> menza is gone now, guess my download script keeps him busy...
[09:03] <psyke83> has anyone here got a Dell Inspiron 8000 laptop?
[09:03] <gnomefreak> munzir: to remove kubuntu-desktop (almost if not fully) sudo apt-get remove --purge libqt3-mt
[09:03] <polpak> ctothej: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:03] <SAM_theman> has anyone have the same problem i am having with there sound
[09:03] <gnomefreak> !info libqt3-mt
[09:03] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: (Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3), section libs, is optional. Version: 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 3213 kB, Installed size: 9036 kB
[09:04] <gnomefreak> yep that is the one
[09:04] <SAM_theman> Like my sound for music plays well and the radio but not on amarok but on ryth....
[09:04] <H_Bug> bbrazil:I tried doing that in my users and su accounts but I keep getting a Permission denied errror
[09:04] <ctothej> polpak, its installing...
[09:04] <ctothej> polpak, done
[09:04] <SAM_theman> not on the games or on the site that you watch clips
[09:04] <polpak> ctothej: then just ssh to the desktop's IP using your username/password
[09:04] <Kr0ntab> edgardpacheco, psyke83 whats up with yer laptop
[09:04] <Killaz> [warn]  RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `server' does NOT match server name!?
[09:04] <munzir> Flannel, gnomefreak: but this would make it very difficult for normal people to tell how to remove it. What's wrong if they made the metapackage remove all its dependencies?
[09:05] <Killaz> this is teh error I'm getting
[09:05] <pax> munzir: nobody said sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop will remove all kde packages.
[09:05] <Kr0ntab> oops  sorry ed
[09:05] <Flannel> munzir: because it defeats the purposes of meta packages?
[09:05] <Killaz> not an error but a warn
[09:05] <munzir> !info xvidcap
[09:05] <psyke83> Kr0ntab: I'm not looking for support, it's fine, I need people with the laptop to test a patch I've written
[09:05] <polpak> Killaz: that's fine.. that's not the error
[09:05] <H_Bug> bbrazil:I'm in idiot nevermind i have the solution
[09:05] <polpak> Killaz: just a warning because you didn't make your own cert
[09:06] <Flannel> munzir: what if I wanted to remove component X of ubuntu-desktop? the meta package would be removed because it has unmet dependancies
[09:06] <Kr0ntab> oic
[09:06] <munzir> pax: yes I am saying why not
[09:06] <mikdeazy> anyone know if ubuntu supports avance ALS 300 soundcard
[09:06] <Flannel> munzir: there ARE applications that can remove things left orphaned
[09:06] <polpak> Killaz: the problem is the 404.. Check your apache conf and make sure the document root is where you think it should be
[09:06] <ctothej> polpak, quick way to check my ip on the linux machine?
[09:07] <polpak> ctothej: ifconfig -a will list your network devices and their assigned addresses
[09:07] <Killaz> polpak: without the https I dont get a 404
[09:07] <polpak> Killaz: then the secure server is using a different document root than the insecure one?
[09:07] <pax> munzir: that's what tools like aptitude are for
[09:07] <Killaz> polpak: the DocumentRoot is pointing to the same one as the insecure
[09:08] <polpak> Killaz: then you'd get the 404( or not ) on both.
[09:08] <polpak> Killaz: can you pastebin your httpd.conf file?
[09:08] <munzir> Flannel: can't it be made in a way that removing ubuntu-desktop would remove all the packages but removing one of the components would only remove that component? ;)
[09:08] <Killaz> polpak: nope.. I only get 404 on the https enabled one
[09:09] <Steff_breezy> MenZa, hey you are still here? thought you were gone
[09:09] <] KJ[> hi again - how can I install the terminus font for ubuntu ?
[09:09] <munzir> pax: how from aptitude am I suppose to find how to remove all kde?
[09:09] <pax> munzir:  with aptitude you can install and later remove kubuntu-desktop and there are no leftover packages.
[09:09] <Flannel> munzir: no.  Because if you remove a component, it HAS to remove the whle thing.  Since otherwise that 'whole thing" isn't all there.
[09:10] <ctothej> polpak, lsmod output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13171
[09:10] <Steff_breezy> munzir, I dont use kde, just for interest: why do you want to remove all of it again?
[09:10] <munzir> pax: you mean removing from aptitude is not like removing by apt-get remove?
[09:10] <pax> munzir: aptitude remembers deps attached to a package and can remove them for you
[09:10] <polpak> ctothej: ok, well the first problem is that the fglrx module isn't loaded
[09:11] <] KJ[> newbie q : is gnome taking less memory and/or resources then kde ?
[09:11] <ctothej> polpak, shit... lol
[09:11] <munzir> pax: is adept and synaptic do the same?
[09:11] <Killaz> polpak: http://pastebin.com/690858
[09:11] <polpak> ctothej: follow the instructions on the wiki to install it
[09:12] <ctothej> polpak, would the failure/error stop it from loading?
[09:12] <polpak> !tell ctothej about fglrx
[09:12] <pax> munzir: I'm not familiar with adept
[09:12] <Killaz> polpak: I pastebin the ssl virtual host
[09:12] <polpak> ctothej: can you pastebin /etc/modules ?
[09:12] <ctothej> polpak, ok, ill try installing it again...
[09:12] <ctothej> sure..
[09:12] <Killaz> polpak: in the listen.conf I have Listen 443
[09:12] <Killaz> polpak: I mean ports.conf
[09:12] <] KJ[> can anyone here help me with terminus font ? i really like that font and would like it for ubuntu
[09:13] <gnomefreak> !font
[09:13] <ubotu> font is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:13] <ctothej> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13172
[09:13] <Flannel> hmm.
[09:13] <] KJ[> !font
[09:13] <ubotu> font is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:14] <SAM_theman> !sound
[09:14] <ubotu> I heard sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:14] <Lhademmor> !azureus
[09:14] <ubotu> well, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:14] <arrick> Has anyone here successfully installed Frontpage 2002 Extensions on there Ubuntu/Apache2 server?
[09:14] <] KJ[> !vlc
[09:14] <ubotu> well, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[09:14] <polpak> ctothej:sudo depmod && sudo modprobe -a
[09:14] <ompaul> aze45, after you request it, it should all work straight away, however if you wait 10 then give it a moment to sync and there are no previous wiki entries or launchpad entries it should work - at least that is my experience
[09:15] <polpak> Killaz: that doesn't look right, but I'm not that familiar with apache2 config layout so I could be wrong
[09:16] <Killaz> polpak: hmm what doesnt look right?
[09:16] <ctothej> polpak, that gives me usage for modprobe..
[09:16] <xbox_sky> i want to know what version mysql is , is there a text command?
[09:16] <Killaz> polpak: this is the default ssl config
[09:16] <andrew_> hey i'm trying to stream a video from you tube, I can get the video but no audio. anyone help?
[09:16] <polpak> Killaz: ok, well what is the url you're trying to access?
[09:16] <bbrazil> Killaz: why is it <VirtualHost *:443> ? you should specify an IP address
[09:17] <] KJ[> xbox_sky: sudo mysqld -V
[09:17] <mythica> how do you get to task manager in ubuntu ?
[09:17] <polpak> bbrazil: well it's ok if he only has 1 site being hosted
[09:17] <mikdeazy> anyone know if ubuntu still supports older ISA cards ?
[09:17] <Killaz> polpak: aha you're right....
[09:17] <Killaz> polpak: has to do with the IP...
[09:17] <xbox_sky> thanks K
[09:17] <bbrazil> mythica: type 'ps aux' in a terminal for a list of processes
[09:17] <andrew_> mythica: ps ax
[09:17] <devscott-laptop> xbox_sky: mysql -V
[09:18] <Killaz> polpak: when I access the site from within my network .. everything is ok..
[09:18] <mythica> ta
[09:18] <devscott-laptop> xbox_sky: or mysql --version
[09:18] <Flannel> !font
[09:18] <ubotu> I heard font is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[09:18] <Flannel> good.
[09:18] <Jimmey__> Three lions on a shirt..
[09:18] <xbox_sky> tx guys
[09:18] <devscott-laptop> !gksudo
[09:18] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[09:18] <arrick> Flannel, is this the old flannelking?
[09:19] <Killaz> polpak: when I use the external IP, NAT to the server thing goes wrong
[09:19] <Flannel> arrick: it is!
[09:19] <dxdemetriou> hi
[09:19] <mythica> whats gnome-system-monitor ?
[09:19] <ctothej> polpak, see my last response about the command?
[09:19] <polpak> ctothej: yeah, I just saw it
[09:19] <ctothej> k
[09:19] <bpont> hi..I bought a Seagate 250 gig HD and a Promise Ultra ATA/133 PCI IDE Controller to add to my system...does anyone know if Ubuntu will recognize the controller card and the full capacity of the new hard drive?
[09:19] <freakynl> hola, does ubuntu support isa soundcards?
[09:19] <polpak> ctothej: what is the command you typed?
[09:20] <ctothej> polpak, sudo depmod && sudo modprobe -a
[09:20] <mirak> are we supposed to have Xv overlay driver with ATI proprietary drivers ?
[09:20] <XiXaQ> Hello everyone. I've just installed windows, so I can download and maybe try and install Ubuntu 6.06. I need to make CERTAIN that this iso is correct before I try though. The workstation disk is Live&Installation disk? Does it check itself before it starts to install the system?
[09:20] <Killaz> polpak: where can I change the conf so I can access the secure server from an external IP
[09:20] <ctothej> polpak, -a requires a module name to be specified
[09:20] <mirak> XiXaQ: you installed windows ?
[09:20] <edgardpacheco> hi again
[09:20] <devscott-laptop> mythica: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gnome-system-monitor/
[09:20] <mirak> XiXaQ: what os do you use beside windows and linux ?
[09:21] <dxdemetriou> While boot the Breezy it loads the Alsa for sound card. In Multimedia System Selector the ESD is for output and OSS for input. I am confused with this, because i don't know what will work with tv-card. Anybody knows where can I find information about that?
[09:21] <edgardpacheco> where can i find an html editor as good as front page?
[09:21] <XiXaQ> mirak, yes, I had to, cause 5.10 installation doesn't work, and there was no way to check if the cd had been burned correctly.
[09:21] <mythica> thanks devscott-laptop
[09:21] <jmoncayo> does eomebody know what is the meaning of $|++ in perl?
[09:21] <gunpowda> frontpage is terrible
[09:21] <XiXaQ> mirak, I've installed operating systems more than thirty times the last week.
[09:21] <mirak> XiXaQ: you could burnt another CD
[09:21] <dxdemetriou> sorry.. it is wrong.
[09:21] <devscott-laptop> edgardpacheco: try scream or bluefish
[09:21] <edgardpacheco> i know, but is there a good html editor for linux?
[09:21] <dxdemetriou> While boot the Breezy it loads the Alsa for sound card. In Multimedia System Selector the ESD is for output and OSS for input. I am confused with this.
[09:21] <gunpowda> try the mozilla foundation's free one, nvu
[09:21] <bpont> does anyone know if Ubuntu has size limits with recognizing hard drives?
[09:22] <polpak> ctothej: odd, try sudo modprobe fglrx
[09:22] <edgardpacheco> which one is the best for you? scream or bluefish?
[09:22] <scifi> can anyone recommend and icon theme ?
[09:22] <bpont> the so-called 137 gig barrier?
[09:22] <freakynl> XiXaQ: ? every descent burning program has a verify option
[09:22] <devscott-laptop> gunpowda: is that mozilla's or linspire's?
[09:22] <Jimmey__> d3a
[09:22] <mirak> bpont: the limit doesn't come from ubuntu
[09:22] <Jimmey__> scifi, d3a
[09:22] <jmoncayo> !perl
[09:22] <ubotu> jmoncayo: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:22] <mirak> bpont: but the bios. well, some bioses
[09:22] <XiXaQ> mirak, no I could not. I tried to install ubuntu, and it used all of my disk. But it didn't work, so I had to use the live-cd. But it isn't possible to burn a cd from that, cause it depends on the cd.
[09:22] <freakynl> XiXaQ: every large distro provides md5 or other sums for their iso's to check if the d/l is ok
[09:22] <ctothej> polpak, fatal error
[09:22] <Lhademmor> Weeeee, I just got Azureus up 'n' running thanks to the Ubuntu wiki. Long live ubotu!
[09:22] <ctothej> polpak, "No Such Device"
[09:22] <mirak> XiXaQ: depends how much ram you have. You can load it in ram
[09:22] <XiXaQ> mirak, I have burned nine different copies of ubuntu 5.10, on three different cdroms and from several different sources.
[09:23] <polpak> ctothej: ok, then you must have missed something in the wiki
[09:23] <mirak> XiXaQ: lol
[09:23] <mirak> XiXaQ: ok I guess it's enough
[09:23] <scifi> Jimmey_: they look nice, but rather large, can they be resized ?
[09:23] <polpak> ctothej: follow the instructions ubotu sent you
[09:23] <XiXaQ> mirak, it isn't funny. I'm VERY tired. I havent slept for days now.
[09:23] <ctothej> polpak, ill do it again and report back, thank you so much.
[09:23] <bpont> mirak, what if i have a controller card to solve that problem...will Ubuntu recognize it?  i'm getting a Promise Ultra ATA/133 PCI IDE controller...there's Windoze drivers on the site, but no Linux ones...so now I'm nervous and am considering cancelling the order
[09:23] <LordFalcon> Dapper is very nice
[09:23] <Jimmey__> scifi, I don't know XoD They worked normal for me
[09:23] <JarG0n> !Ubugtu help vnc
[09:23] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JarG0n
[09:24] <freakynl> anyone on my question? i need to know if _ubuntu_ supports isa soundcards. i'm not familiar with ubuntu (run gentoo myself) and want to sell this machine, therefore i need the distro to support it (nice and easy), fedora doesn't support isa anymore
[09:24] <XiXaQ> LordFalcon, have you installed it?
[09:24] <polpak> Killaz: How is your NAT set up?
[09:24] <mirak> bpont: bail out if there is no linux drivers
[09:24] <Jimmey__> ubotu just swore :O
[09:24] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jimmey__
[09:24] <polpak> Killaz: it should work fine so long as nat is forwarding 443
[09:24] <qkslvr> Ok...so I just did the gksudo something -d upgrade on my box...
[09:24] <LordFalcon> XiXaQ, jepp, did it with the upgrade tool in breezy
[09:24] <qkslvr> and xorg.conf is hosed up
[09:24] <XiXaQ> freakynl, heh, you're gonna sell a computer that only has isa support?
[09:25] <JarG0n> !Ubugtu help installing vnc
[09:25] <ubotu> JarG0n: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:25] <qkslvr> how might I go about fixing that?
[09:25] <XiXaQ> LordFalcon, oh, ok.
[09:25] <Killaz> polpak: *blush*
[09:25] <Sven_vB> hi
[09:25] <JarG0n> :(
[09:25] <Flannel> qkslvr: #ubuntu+1 will be of more help
[09:25] <freakynl> XiXaQ: P-III 866 won't be worth around 50-75 euro
[09:25] <qkslvr> ok
[09:25] <qkslvr> thanks
[09:25] <Killaz> polpak: omg... what am I a noob...
[09:25] <freakynl> XiXaQ: it has pci networkcard n such, only the soundcard is isa
[09:25] <bpont> mirak, yeah...i think so...it's amazing hardware manufacturers still haven't caught on to supporting Linux yet...I guess their execs (bought and paid for by MS) are hoping Linux just fades away...
[09:25] <polpak> Killaz: =p
[09:25] <freakynl> err s/won't/would
[09:25] <Killaz> polpak: I should stop working with pc..... :D
[09:25] <mirak> bpont: that's not only linux, there is also BSD
[09:25] <JarG0n> After I install VNC from Synaptic, how do I get it to run?
[09:25] <mirak> bpont: and even OS X by the way
[09:25] <mikdeazy> hey freakyn1
[09:25] <XiXaQ> freakynl, buy some cheap usb speakers or something. :)
[09:26] <dxdemetriou> Is there some way to configure one driver for sound card? I can't remove the alsa, and I can't find the oss
[09:26] <freakynl> XiXaQ: nah don't wanna invest money in it
[09:26] <XiXaQ> freakynl, oh, hehe, you're asking if ubuntu could support it. I was of no use. Sorry. :)
[09:26] <freakynl> dxdemetriou: oss is deprecated, alsa is the way to go
[09:26] <bpont> mirak, that's true...but Apple doesn't really support hardware upgrades anyway, do they?
[09:26] <freakynl> XiXaQ: :)
[09:26] <devscott-laptop> JarG0n: http://ubuntuguide.org/ and look under remote desktop
[09:26] <JarG0n> Thx!
[09:27] <mikdeazy> freakyn1 checkout http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=1429185
[09:27] <mirak> bpont: no but there is PCI ports on the powermacs
[09:27] <freakynl> mirak: hola
[09:27] <freakynl> mirak: thx
[09:27] <mirak> so you could acces all pci world from pc.
[09:27] <mirak> well at least plug them into the mac ...
[09:27] <XiXaQ> LordFalcon, do you know if the desktop cd is both live and installation cd?
[09:27] <bpont> mirak, well in any case, i'm bummed...i got a great deal on a Seagate 250 gig hard drive which i wanted to use with Ubuntu...oh well
[09:27] <freakynl> mikdeazy: yea found that earlier too, but it's core 2 they talk about
[09:27] <dxdemetriou> freakynl: I prefer the oss. Can I use it with the alsa volume control?
[09:28] <devscott-laptop> XiXaQ: no, but the live cd is
[09:28] <mikdeazy> freakyn1 doh - not worth looking at then no ?
[09:28] <LordFalcon> XiXaQ, I dont know.. but the live dapper cd can install dapper
[09:28] <freakynl> dxdemetriou: doubt that
[09:28] <mirak> bpont: the problem is your motherboard. you need to upgrade the bios
[09:28] <freakynl> dxdemetriou: haven't used oss in years
[09:28] <mirak> bpont: flash it flash it
[09:29] <TheUni> after setting up apache and php4, when i try to visit a .php file on my site, it just asks me to save rather then interperiting it. anyone know why?
[09:29] <bpont> mirak, yeah...the mobo is old...they don't support it anymore...most current bios version is from 2000...already flashed it
[09:29] <_jason> TheUni: did you try the trouble shooting tips for php on the LAMP wiki?
[09:29] <freakynl> TheUni: apache hasn't have php loaded or doesn't execute it on php files
[09:29] <ompaul> XiXaQ, did you try wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge?
[09:29] <ctothej> polpak, do i need to run dpgk-reconfigure oserver-xorg? i dont want to overwrite my xorg.conf because of the changes I mad to it for the 2 monitors
[09:29] <mirak> bpont: what is it ?
[09:29] <polpak> ctothej: no
[09:29] <dxdemetriou> freakynl: I am confused because there are multiple drivers for sound card, and I don't know what uses what :(
[09:30] <mirak> bpont: you need to find a supported IDE card then
[09:30] <polpak> ctothej: the key thing is you have to have the fglrx module loaded
[09:30] <polpak> ctothej: and installed
[09:30] <TheUni> freakynl: how do i fix that?
[09:30] <JarG0n> So, "Remote Desktop" in Ubuntu is actually VNC?
[09:30] <SAM_theman> Device "/dev/dsp" does not exist
[09:30] <ctothej> polpak, restarting now.. everything installed fine.
[09:30] <SAM_theman> ?
[09:30] <SAM_theman> wtf wheres my sound???
[09:31] <bpont> mirak, Motherboard Name  	Iwill BD100plus (2 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DIMM)
[09:31] <freakynl> dxdemetriou: check this out (it's alsa tho' why do you want oss?) http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[09:31] <bpont> mirak, Motherboard Chipset  	Intel 82440BX
[09:31] <freakynl> dxdemetriou: find your card in the card list (or the chip)
[09:31] <devscott-laptop>  JarG0n: I believe so, but could be wrong
[09:31] <bpont> mirak, BIOS Type  	Award Modular (12/12/00)
[09:31] <devscott-laptop> !vnc
[09:31] <ubotu> somebody said vnc was http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[09:32] <freakynl> TheUni: you need to load the php module in the apache.conf/httpd.conf and setup the .php extention to be parsed by the php module
[09:32] <TheUni> freakynl: any good guides to help me do that?
[09:32] <scifi> Jimmey_: thx they look great :)
[09:32] <ctothej> polpak, same error as before... how should i check for the driver?
[09:32] <dxdemetriou> freakynl: ok, but why I can't select the alsa from Multimedia System Selector? It doesn't work
[09:32] <bpont> mirak, where can i find a supported (by Ubuntu) IDE card...the Promise card is supported by my system...just windows, not linux
[09:32] <mirak> don't know ...
[09:33] <arrick> hey I sarge really different than breezy?
[09:33] <JarG0n> Devscott> looks that way now that I look through the config screen. :)
[09:33] <devscott-laptop> TheUni: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/ref-guide/s1-apache-addmods.html
[09:33] <mythica> how do ubuntus modules work ?
[09:33] <unen> anyone in here use cedega?
[09:33] <freakynl> TheUni: www.php.net
[09:33] <mythica> where do i find the modules configuration file?
[09:33] <arrick> I need to configure my ubuntu/apache2 server with M$ Frontpage 2002 Extension support, and any help would be appreciated.
[09:33] <Sven_vB> is there a daemon that accepts TCP connections, ignores any data received and basically just waits for the client to terminate the connection?
[09:33] <TheUni> cool thanks
[09:34] <mythica> can i just put the stuff in any file in the /etc/modprobe.d/ directory ?
[09:34] <bbrazil> Sven_vB: what are you trying to do?
[09:34] <polpak> ctothej: lsmod should show it
[09:34] <biovore> Sven_vB: Windows servers  :-P
[09:34] <Sven_vB> bbrazil: i want to be detected by port scanners
[09:34] <JarG0n> Also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VNC
[09:34] <ctothej> polpak, "sudo modprobe -a fglrx" returned Device not found
[09:34] <freakynl> dxdemetriou: sorry dunno not familiar with fedora :) i just include the drivers in my kernels
[09:34] <bbrazil> Sven_vB: inetd has a null service
[09:34] <unen> anyone in here use cedega or any transgaming software?
[09:34] <devscott-laptop> mythica: sudo vi /etc/modules
[09:34] <Sven_vB> bbrazil: how do i activate it?
[09:34] <polpak> unen: yeah
[09:34] <mythica> cool thanks
[09:34] <biovore> Sven_vB: you can create a simple perl script that dose that..
[09:35] <bbrazil> Sven_vB: check /etc/inetd.conf, I forget the syntax
[09:35] <unen> polpak: do u know if the timedemo still works?
[09:35] <Sven_vB> biovore: i have written TCP servers in Perl. i know what "simple" means :>
[09:35] <polpak> unen: no idea
[09:35] <devscott-laptop> !beer
[09:35] <ubotu> devscott-laptop: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:35] <green_earz> arrick: sarge is built on the stable section of debian where as breezy gets its packages from the unstable section of debian
[09:35] <XiXaQ> ompaul, no. I was told that if the installation doesn't succeed, then there has to be something wrong with the cd. Therefore I wanted to get another copy, make __SURE__ it is written correctly to the medium and try that instead. I'm downloading 6.06 now.
[09:35] <mythica> devscott-laptop, Hmm, that seems different though, that just has a few modules in it
[09:35] <Sven_vB> bbrazil: thx
[09:35] <unen> polpak: what games do u play on it? any that use punkbuster, ive been told its screwed up
[09:35] <mythica> devscott-laptop, i am following an install guide, and they want me to add a whole lot of stuff
[09:36] <devscott-laptop> mythica: what are you looking for?
[09:36] <mythica> devscott-laptop, ill throw it in pastebin
[09:36] <arrick> green_earz, then would the instructions for Sarge with apache2 work in breezy?
[09:36] <Sven_vB> can i decide on which port(s) the null service shall listen?
[09:36] <polpak> unen: just starcraft & warcraft
[09:36] <devscott-laptop> !ubotu
[09:36] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:36] <green_earz> arrick: yes
[09:36] <polpak> unen: Most of the games I play are native
[09:36] <mythica> http://pastebin.com/690897
[09:36] <unen> polpak: any WoW?
[09:36] <freakynl> TheUni: http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.unix.apache2.php point 14-16
[09:36] <mythica> take a look there, thats the instructions
[09:36] <polpak> unen: no, but I've heard it works fine
[09:36] <arrick> thanks green_earz
[09:36] <green_earz> np
[09:36] <devscott-laptop> mythica: what are you trying to do?
[09:37] <kbrooks> join #ubuntu-doc
[09:37] <unen> polpak: k, thx... at least i know that cedega DOES in fact work on ubuntu distro now
[09:37] <mythica> install drivers
[09:37] <kbrooks> er sry :-)
[09:37] <XiXaQ> ompaul, it would be of -great- help if I could get a list of md5 sums for the cd, not only the iso. I can never be 100% certain that it has written the iso without any error, unless I have md5 for all the files. that feature should be the first thing the installer does, imho.
[09:37] <mythica> devscott-laptop, should i paste the whole install guide?
[09:37] <devscott-laptop> no
[09:37] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: first thing?
[09:37] <mythica> k
[09:37] <devscott-laptop> mythica: are they compiled against the kernel?
[09:38] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: what do you mean?
[09:38] <mythica> yup
[09:38] <steffi> xqzme, I get this : sudo: unable to lookup Highfield via gethostbyname() ..I delete the hostnames in networking.. How can I fix it?
[09:38] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, at least the installation should make sure it is able to read the disk before it removes your current operating system.
[09:38] <devscott-laptop> and you can insert them manually and they work ?
[09:38] <steffi> I can not run any sudo commands
[09:38] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: easy question: why?
[09:38] <polpak> ctothej: what is the output of uname -r ?
[09:38] <devscott-laptop> !insmod
[09:38] <ubotu> devscott-laptop: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:39] <ctothej> polpak, 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[09:39] <polpak> steffi: you need to reboot with a rescue terminal
[09:39] <polpak> ctothej: oh
[09:39] <polpak> ctothej: that explains it
[09:39] <steffi> polpak, explain me plz
[09:39] <ubuntu> nick ben
[09:39] <polpak> steffi: when you reboot, at the grub menu select rescue terminal
[09:39] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, why? I installed windows, downloaded ubuntu. Wrote ubuntu installation to cd, rebooted and installed ubuntu. The installation chrashed. I now have no operating system. I had to reinstall windows just to download and write another copy of ubuntu to cd... That's stupid. Every OS installation should check it's main media first.
[09:40] <steffi> polpak, and then, what I do?
[09:40] <mythica> devscott-laptop, any ideas? I just need to know where the modules configuration file resides in ubuntu
[09:40] <polpak> steffi: you need to put back the hostname
[09:40] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: ah
[09:40] <steffi> polpak, how?
[09:40] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: um, windows doesnt
[09:40] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, ubuntu is the only linux distro I know that doesn't do it.
[09:40] <silje_> HEllo!:)
[09:40] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, I know.
[09:40] <H_Bug> I'm trying to view the files on my *nix box via my network, the computer im viewing from is a widowz box. A error comes up saying that i dont have permission to use the network resource..
[09:41] <polpak> steffi: what did you delete?
[09:41] <devscott-laptop> mythica: I believe modules.conf if dead, long live /etc/modules.
[09:41] <silje_> Hello People!:D
[09:41] <McKinney> i have a little question and i hope someone can help me
[09:41] <steffi> polpak, btw I have no rescue menu in Grab .. I have to boot the safe mode (i think) and then it ask me to log in for maintance
[09:41] <corey> !justask
[09:41] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[09:41] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: i think i can write a md5 catalog program :P
[09:41] <polpak> steffi: did you make a root password?
[09:41] <steffi> polpak, I open the networking menu from Gnome.. and I delete all the hosts names
[09:42] <steffi> polpak, yea I have pass for root
[09:42] <delcoyote> hi all
[09:42] <silje_> Hi! Wazzup?!:P
[09:42] <mythica> but /etc/modules just looks like where the actual modules are loaded - not their configs ?
[09:42] <polpak> steffi: then type in that password
[09:42] <malling> Hi
[09:42] <green_earz> arrick: here a good video of mark shuttleworth talking about ubuntu and debian relationship > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2005/debconf5/mpeg/2005-07-14/02-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth.mpeg
[09:42] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, to check the sums of all files actually written to the cd? That would be great.
[09:42] <jetscreamer> you add the params after
[09:42] <H_Bug> I'm reading the /etc/samba/smb.conf file and i don't see anything that could solve this//
[09:42] <munzir> Hi how can I tell whether my OS is 32-bit or 64-bit?
[09:42] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: no. md5sum can do that though
[09:42] <silje_> Is it any norwiegian people hier??:P
[09:43] <arrick> green_earz, I just need to get the frontpage extension support going on here
[09:43] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: after a ... mount of the iso
[09:43] <silje_> Im not good in english!:P
[09:43] <devscott-laptop> mythica: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1994.html
[09:43] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, oh, you meant a program to check the cd before the installation begins? Yes, do that. It's a MUST.
[09:43] <polpak> !no
[09:43] <ubotu> polpak: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:43] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: md5sum fulfills that
[09:43] <polpak> hrm
[09:43] <steffi> polpak, type the passwd where?
[09:44] <polpak> steffi: when it asks you to log in for maintenance
[09:44] <silje_> GoodBye People...:P HEhe..See yah!:)
[09:44] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: but  the md5 check might as well be done manually
[09:44] <steffi> ok polpak ..but then what I have to do?
[09:44] <devscott-laptop> !penguins
[09:44] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, devscott-laptop
[09:44] <XiXaQ> kbrooks, but what if the cd has been damaged? Perhaps almost all of the cd is ok, except one small critical file which makes the installation chrash? It would be nice if you COULD check the cd from the installation program.
[09:45] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: i'll talk in -dev about this (please join)
[09:45] <steffi> polpak, I just need to run a configuration about my network.. is any command to do that?
[09:45] <XiXaQ> kbrooks?
[09:45] <kbrooks> XiXaQ: oops, -devel
[09:45] <McKinney> is there someone who can help me with xfce?
[09:45] <polpak> ctothej: When you did the installation, did you install linux-686, or did you install linux-amd64-generic ?
[09:45] <mythica> devscott-laptop, heh i was busy reading that now
[09:45] <mythica> devscott-laptop, (before u posted it) :p
[09:46] <ctothej> polpak, amd64-generic
[09:46] <devscott-laptop> mythica: great minds google alike :)
[09:46] <mythica> hehe
[09:46] <ctothej> i have an amd64 x2 processor
[09:46] <mythica> "all the files inside /etc/modprobe.d comprise modprobe.conf. Stick it in any one you want, then run update-modules."
[09:46] <kman> I have a WPA question, any takers?
[09:46] <polpak> ctothej: ok, well I'm really not sure how to get it working with 64 bit arch
[09:46] <mythica> so can I just make a file called "local" and throw that in /etc/modprobe.d
[09:47] <devscott-laptop> mythica: sounds like it. *crosses his fingers*
[09:47] <polpak> ctothej: I generally recommend ppl with 64 bit processors just use 32 bit arch for now. as 64 bit arch support just isn't quite there yet.
[09:47] <mythica> ok then i just gotta run update-modules
[09:47] <polpak> steffi: you need to edit /etc/hosts
[09:47] <mythica> devscott-laptop, hmm, dont think it worked
[09:47] <polpak> steffi: you can do that with  nano /etc/hosts
[09:47] <steffi> polpak, edit and write what?
[09:48] <ctothej> polpak, ill have to download the x86 iso right? can i just change it from here?
[09:48] <polpak> steffi: what is your hostname
[09:48] <steffi> polpak, my hosts is empty
[09:48] <polpak> ctothej: I'm really not sure
[09:48] <kman> [RESENDING]  I have a WPA question, any takers?
[09:48] <polpak> ctothej: the safest way would be to get the iso and reinstall
[09:48] <ctothej> polpak, ill give it a shot, thanks
[09:48] <polpak> steffi: I know  that.. what's your hostname
[09:48] <devscott-laptop> mythica: wife needs me, brb
[09:48] <polpak> steffi: it's empty cause you deleted all the entries
[09:49] <steffi> polpak, I get this: sudo: unable to lookup Highfield via gethostbyname()
[09:49] <steffi> polpak, I guess my host name is Highfield
[09:50] <polpak> steffi: then you need a line that says :     127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       Highfield
[09:50] <polpak> steffi: no spaces at the beginning of the line though
[09:50] <steffi> ok I try ..I tried to do that, but I put them in wrong order
[09:50] <steffi> thanx polpak
[09:50] <crunchyfish> has anyone had a problem with the dapper livecd during setup that says "hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit?", and it'll post that error a few times and then finally boot, and as soon as the desktop shows up the pc will either freeze or reboot?
[09:51] <edgardpacheco> hello poeple
[09:51] <H_Bug> I'm trying to view the files on my *nix box via my network, the computer im viewing from is a widowz box. A error comes up saying that i dont have permission to use the network resource..
[09:51] <H_Bug> I'm trying to view the files on my *nix box via my network, the computer im viewing from is a widowz box. A error comes up saying that i dont have permission to use the network resource..
[09:51] <edgardpacheco> people
[09:51] <polpak> steffi: once you have that line there you can restart and sudo should work
[09:51] <edgardpacheco> where i can find the  libstdc++.so.5 package?
[09:52] <steffi> polpak, it worked thanx.. but before I had a lot of hosts ..that probabbly ubuntu create it by default.. How I can I create them again?
[09:52] <TheUni> is there a free/opensource alternative to a program like DirectAdmin?
[09:53] <mythica> how would i check the results of update-modules
[09:53] <mythica> i added some stuff and want to see what its doing
[09:53] <edgardpacheco> anyone knows where i can find the  libstdc++.so.5 package??
[09:53] <corey> edgardpacheco, Synaptic?
[09:53] <polpak> steffi: the other entries are just for ipv6, you don't need to worry about them
[09:53] <steffi> polpak, a million thanx.. c yaa
[09:54] <polpak> steffi: =)
[09:55] <kman> I use ndiswrapper to load an ms driver for my wifi card. problem: when booting with the card nothing happens after i login (i see the background and nothing happens) if on the other hand i boot without the card ubuntu loads ok (then i plug the wifi nic in and restart netwroking services and all is OK)
[09:56] <Kujass> hello :)
[09:56] <Tedd> 'lo Kujass. What can we help you with?
[09:56] <anthony> How do I install my NVIDIA Drivers pls?
[09:56] <kbrooks> Seveas?
[09:56] <ccc_> !nvidia
[09:56] <ubotu> Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:57] <kman> how about me???
[09:57] <kbrooks> Seveas: someone named "kujass" is here.
[09:57] <Seveas> kbrooks, so?
[09:57] <kbrooks> Seveas: isnt "ass" offensive?
[09:57] <Seveas> sure
[09:57] <scifi> how do i update my gnome build ?
[09:57] <edgardpacheco> !tell anthony nvidia
[09:57] <kbrooks> Seveas: "sure"?
[09:57] <highvoltage> depends whos it is
[09:57] <Seveas> but why would kujass be offensive?
[09:58] <kbrooks> Seveas: his nickname is offensive
[09:58] <Seveas> I disagree
[09:58] <kbrooks> how come?
[09:58] <Seveas> then DickTracy would be offensive too
[09:58] <Seveas> whilst Dick Tracy is a really cool guy 
[09:58] <jakobjs> !automatix
[09:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[09:59] <jakobjs> !easyubuntu
[09:59] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[10:00] <corey> anyone know if its possible to change your darn buddy icon in gaim? i cant find it for the life of me
[10:00] <Seveas> corey, tools  accounts, select account, hit modif
[10:00] <Seveas> y
[10:00] <scifi> how do i update my gnome build ?
[10:01] <corey> haha im an idiot, thanks Seveas
[10:01] <kbrooks> corey: :)
[10:01] <Pf123> Q:  I'm trying to install ubuntu, and it finds one harddrive, but the the harddirve I want to install ubuntu on
[10:01] <ChangerOfSea> hi, I dunno if this is an ubuntu problem or gnome, but when i log in, it takes at least 2 min where it used to take < 30 seconds
[10:01] <Seveas> corey, 90% of the people can't find it - gaim is hopelessly unintuitive at times
[10:02] <corey> :P
[10:02] <ChangerOfSea> anyone know of a reason for this?
[10:02] <Pf123> I unplugged my other harddirve.
[10:02] <corey> its tricky
[10:02] <ChangerOfSea> and everything else goes as fast as i remember it..
[10:02] <Seveas> ChangerOfSea, added a lot to your panel?
[10:03] <Pf123> can anyone help me?
[10:03] <aze45> ompaul: same problem as before
[10:03] <Pf123> Q:  I'm trying to install ubuntu, and it finds one harddrive, but the the harddirve I want to install ubuntu on
[10:03] <ChangerOfSea> Seveas: no it seems to happen when i tried to "save current setup"
[10:03] <Pf123> can anyone help me?
[10:03] <aze45> can't login to wiki, don't understand why
[10:04] <Pf123> I unplugged my other harddirve.
[10:04] <aze45> ompaul: have recover my password, have reset my passwords on moz, my cookies, have checked my new password, and still an error "wrong password", it drives me nuts and i can't understand why
[10:04] <Das-Herrkurm> when i try to delete a folder with rm comman it tells me taht i cant delete it, its a directory. :x how do i delete a whole directorys??
[10:05] <ic56> Pf123: repeat the question please
[10:05] <Pf123> Q:  I'm trying to install ubuntu, and it finds one harddrive, but the the harddirve I want to install ubuntu on
[10:05] <Pf123> I unplugged my other harddirve.
[10:05] <corey> rm -d
[10:05] <Das-Herrkurm> ill try ity
[10:05] <Das-Herrkurm> thx
[10:05] <_jason> Das-Herrkurm: rm -r
[10:05] <aze45> any idea where i can found a wiki admin? or an email where i can write?
[10:05] <Pf123> I unplug my harddrive i dont want it to install on, and it doesnt see it....so I cant partition it
[10:06] <Das-Herrkurm> gosh, i had forgotten the flag -r, thansk a lot :D
[10:06] <Pf123> or format it for ubuntu
[10:06] <CaBlGuY> greetings peeps...
[10:06] <ChangerOfSea> Seveas: suggestions?
[10:06] <[itrebal] > i'm trying to get ssl libraries for compiling Gaim, and i've gotten most things i could think about, but its still not wrokgin out
[10:06] <ic56> Pf123: you want to install ubuntu on one harddrive.  You have disconnected the other harddrive from your system.  Do I have this right?
[10:06] <[itrebal] > anyone know which ones tog et?
[10:06] <Seveas> ChangerOfSea, system  preferences  sessions, disable some things
[10:06] <Pf123> Yes, i have a 250gb harddirve (with windows) and a 80gb harddrive, i wish to format and install ubuntu on the 80
[10:07] <immolo> Pf123, then just install on the 80gb and don't change any settings on the 250 one
[10:07] <[itrebal] > Pf123: make sure that windows is first on the drive, and if its not, it can read (has native support for) anything before it in the partition table
[10:07] <Pf123> I cant install on the 80
[10:08] <Pf123> i completely unplugged my 250gb, so it doesnt see it anymore
[10:08] <scifi> how do i update my gnome build ?
[10:08] <Pf123> but i mean, it doesnt find my 80gb hardrive, and i just tell it to install
[10:08] <axisys> hello all
[10:08] <Pf123> I get "No root file system is defined.  Please corret this from the partitioning menu"
[10:08] <ic56> Pf123: does your computer's BIOS find your 80G harddrive?
[10:08] <axisys> anyone know how to use neatreceipts scanalizer?
[10:08] <Pf123> It should, let me check
[10:09] <bernard__> hello
[10:09] <axisys> it is connected to my laptop thru usb
[10:09] <Pf123> yes, it says that its primary slave
[10:09] <bernard__> hello how to install java in linux plz
[10:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell bernard__ about java
[10:10] <Das-Herrkurm> sudo apt-get install j2re
[10:10] <Mysta> hello, does nano have syntax highlighting?
[10:10] <ic56> Pf123: during the Ubuntu install process, when it comes time to partition the harddrives, did you use manual or automatic partitioning?
[10:10] <bernard__> jason do you know?
[10:10] <Das-Herrkurm> bernard__:  open your console and type sudo apt-get install j2re
[10:10] <hollywoodb> Mysta: no
[10:10] <Pf123> it doesnt let me select automatic, only manual
[10:11] <kman> I use ndiswrapper to load an ms driver for my wifi card. problem: when booting with the card nothing happens after i login (i see the background and nothing happens) if on the other hand i boot without the card ubuntu loads ok (then i plug the wifi nic in and restart netwroking services and all is OK)
[10:11] <_jason> bernard__: ubotu should have sent you a private message with the information, be sure to type back to ubotu and say 'javadebs' for more information
[10:11] <CaBlGuY> !tell me about updates
[10:11] <Mysta> hollywoodb: thanks, what about vi?
[10:11] <bernard__> tanks
 hi
 i copied greek filenames from ntfs partitioons to extt3
 but they look like this
 ???????.txt
 why?
[10:11] <Das-Herrkurm> ubotu is a bot, am i right? :D
[10:11] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Das-Herrkurm
[10:11] <Pf123> look, what i do is select language, where im from, heybaord...they it starts detecting everything
[10:11] <ic56> Pf123: good, manual gives flexibility. Now, what drive name does the partitioning screen display?  hda? hdb?
[10:12] <_jason> nikosgr: do not paste please and refrain from using enter as punctuation.  Thanks
[10:12] <[itrebal] > i'm trying to install SSL libraries for compiling gaim-2.0.0-dev beta2 (3 maybe?) and during the configure process it cannot find them, i've tried installing several things related to it but i've not found what exactly i need, any ideas?
[10:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell Das-Herrkurm about yourself
[10:12] <Pf123> well, after i select manual
[10:12] <Olde_Harold> brb...........need a coffee
[10:12] <scifi> pls someone ?
[10:13] <_jason> [itrebal] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompileGaim?highlight=%28gaim%29
[10:13] <carsten> Sorry, I am really not sure. Is this a "valid" Upstream Version Freeze exception  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gramps/+bug/42270     I just filed it but am not sure...
[10:13] <Pf123> it says "Configure software RAID""Configure the logical volume manager""guided partitioning""help on partitioning"
[10:13] <nikosgr> ?
[10:13] <axisys> xsane scan does not recognize my scanner
[10:13] <_jason> scifi: what do you mean?
[10:13] <Pf123> and undo changes to partitions, also finish partitining and write changes to disk
[10:13] <scifi> how do i update to gnome 2.14?
[10:13] <_jason> scifi: gnome2.14 is available only in dapper
[10:13] <scifi> hmmm :*(
[10:14] <ic56> Pf123: it's skipping a step because it thinks it's already been done.
[10:14] <Pf123> when i had my 250gb harddrive plugged it, i believe it was on that list to select it...my 80gb does not show up
[10:14] <nikosgr> why cant i se greek in kosole?
[10:14] <Pf123> so should I click go back?
[10:14] <arrick> [itrebal] , you need to change your name to something easier to type
[10:14] <Pf123> I click go back, and the step before that says detect hardware
[10:14] <[itrebal] > arrick: sorry, i'm a tor user and its... banned for this channel so i'm using an alternate nick
[10:14] <ic56> Pf123: clicking back won't solve it, rebooting would but, presumably you've tried that already
[10:14] <Olde_Harold> i'm just about ready to scream at macromedia flash player downloads
[10:14] <Pf123> yes, tried it multiple times :\
[10:15] <_jason> Olde_Harold: hmm? what's happening?
[10:15] <Olde_Harold> won't download
[10:15] <|lostbyte|> That sexy boot screen, which file decides it, GRUB ?
[10:15] <arrick> I need to configure my ubuntu/apache2 server with M$ Frontpage 2002 Extension support, and any help would be appreciated. The Sarge directions dont work
[10:15] <ChangerOfSea> Seveas: hey.. its taking even longer now
[10:16] <Olde_Harold> says download not available
[10:16] <ChangerOfSea> Seveas: is there a way i can totally reset that configuration
[10:16] <Pf123> so, does ubuntu just hate my harddrive? and i should stick to windows, or what?
[10:16] <KenSentMe> Olde_Harold, where is it trying to download from, what url?
[10:16] <Seveas> ChangerOfSea, rm ~/.gnome2/session
[10:16] <Olde_Harold> yes
[10:16] <kronoz> !mp3
[10:16] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:16] <ic56> Pf123: It's been a while since I've seen that menu so before we spend time hacking around, are you sure there's no drive mentioned on that screen (like hda, or hdb) and no mention of edit partitions, manual editing, anything like that?
[10:17] <Pf123> none
[10:17] <scifi> Jimmey_: the only icons in d3a i dont like are the up, reload and home icons in nautilus toolbar
[10:17] <KenSentMe> Olde_Harold, yes what?
[10:17] <Pf123> there is if i plug in my 250gb harddrive, but i wish to not format that one
[10:17] <Olde_Harold> ftdownload.macromedia.com
[10:17] <KenSentMe> try download.macromedia.com
[10:18] <KenSentMe> Olde_Harold, had that problem too and this url worked
[10:18] <KenSentMe> think it worked :)
[10:18] <ic56> Pf123: hmmm.  Connect your 250G harddrive and let's start from there.  It will be easier and it's where we want to end up anyway -- you don't want to have to unplug it every time you boot :-)
[10:18] <kbrooks> [itrebal] : !!!
[10:19] <Pf123> ok
[10:19] <gui> ae galera blz?
[10:19] <[itrebal] > hey kbrooks!
[10:19] <corey> Pf123, your problem is probably cause your 250gb is primary and it cant find it if its not plugged in
[10:19] <gui> to tentando desmontar um ipod mas ta dando o seguinte erro
[10:19] <tritium> !es
[10:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:19] <kbrooks> [itrebal] : you on gaim? thats odd. :-P
[10:19] <gui> eject: unable to eject, las erro Arguemnto invlido
[10:19] <ChangerOfSea> Seveas: thank you
[10:19] <Pf123> i switched the jumpers, the 80 should be primary
[10:19] <itrebal|tor> kbrooks: whys that :)
[10:20] <ic56> Pf123: wow. how will windows boot if it's disk isn't primary?
[10:20] <kbrooks> itrebal|tor: because i heard gaim had a sucky irc client :P j/k
[10:20] <Pf123> i jsut planned to switch jumpers all the time :|
[10:20] <corey> or you can use a thing called grub Pf123  :)
[10:20] <itrebal|tor> kbrooks: it *is* a sucky IRC client, but i use a ton of other protocols
[10:20] <Pf123> yea, but if i cant install ubuntu, theres no point in grub :\
[10:20] <ic56> Pf123: bad idea.  Both your drives are IDE right?
[10:21] <Pf123> 250gb is sata, 80gb is ide
[10:21] <ic56> Pf123: let me ask around a minute.
[10:22] <Pf123> im starting it up now, 250 in primary, and 80 in the other one
[10:22] <xerophyte> is there any replacement for the atalk on linux to share the file with mac os boxes ??
[10:23] <anthony> I have problems installing my NVIDIA driver. When I enable it my screen goes blank and stays there
[10:23] <Pf123> Yea, Erase entire disk: SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) - 250.1 GB ATA WDC WD2500J
[10:23] <ic56> Are there any gotchas with SATA drives in Ubuntu and do they cooperate with IDE drives on the same bus?
[10:23] <Pf123> Erase entire disk and use LVM.....
[10:23] <Pf123> it sees my 250, not my 80
[10:23] <scifi> anyway of renaming mounted ntfs drives on the desktop? ive tried ntfsprogs, but didnt work, gparted has a disklabler but it involves erasing all data on the disk. any other options ?
[10:24] <carthik> ic56, same bus?
[10:24] <anthony> can anyone help me pls? I have problems installing my driver nvidia
[10:24] <ic56> Pf123: is there a manually edit partitions option?
[10:24] <Pf123> yes
[10:24] <ic56> carthik: yes, same bus
[10:24] <_jason> anthony: are you following the wiki?
[10:24] <carthik> ic56, i have a sata drive and an ide drive - but dunno if they are on the same bus... dont remember.
[10:24] <anthony> yes I am
[10:24] <ic56> Pf123: take the manual option
[10:24] <Pf123> my 250gb is partitioned...i click the manual option
[10:24] <Pf123> it shows my 3 partitions from teh 250, does not show my 80
[10:24] <ic56> Pf123: what are their drive names? hda? hdc?
[10:24] <_jason> anthony: what card are you on and what step are you on?
[10:24] <anthony> _jason: yes I followed it exactly
[10:24] <ic56> carthik: what are their drive names? hda? hdc?
[10:25] <_jason> anthony: I mean: what card do you have?
[10:25] <anthony> Close all your applications, then press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to restart the X server. If you see an nVidia
[10:25] <ic56> Pf123: what exactly was the name of the manual option?
[10:25] <carthik> ic56, there's hda db and dc
[10:25] <anthony> Geforce 6200
[10:25] <_jason> anthony: k, what part of the wiki do you get up to?
[10:25] <Pf123> drives are called /media/sda1, sda2, sda3
[10:26] <anthony> step 16
[10:26] <ic56> carthik: do you know which is the SATA and which the IDE?  Presumably the 3rd is your CDROM?
[10:26] <Pf123> i think it was manually partition tables or something similar
[10:26] <axisys> !xsane
[10:26] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys
[10:26] <scifi> anyway of renaming mounted ntfs drives on the desktop? ive tried ntfsprogs, but didnt work, gparted has a disklabler but it involves erasing all data on the disk. any other options ?
[10:26] <ic56> Pf123: please go back and tell me exactly what the name was.  It's been a while so I need you to refresh my memory and we don't want to make a mistake here.
[10:27] <Pf123> ill restart again :p
[10:27] <Pf123> give me a minute
[10:27] <anthony> _jason: Step 16...
[10:28] <ic56> scifi: by renaming you mean having them be mounted elsewhere?
[10:28] <_jason> anthony: ok, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , choose 'nv' as the video and lets see if we can figure out what went wrong once we get you back to X
[10:28] <capiCrimm> is there any way to change where Desktop points too. That is I'd prefer to use $HOME instead.
[10:28] <carthik> ic56, that's my desktop - sorry can't help right now
[10:28] <Pf123> it says "Manually edit partition table"
[10:29] <scifi> ic56: no i mean i want to change the name from hdb1 to NTFSMediaDrive or something like that
[10:29] <carthik> capiCrimm, use the gconf editor to enable desktop_is_home in nautilus
[10:29] <anthony> it tells me must login as root
[10:29] <_jason> anthony: yes, sorry it's: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:30] <ic56> scifi: where do you see "hdb1"?  It appears in many places.  It can be changed in some places but not in all places.
[10:30] <munzir> Hi, I installed dapper 32 in amd64 as chroot. uname -a shows 2.6.15-21-amd64-k8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Apr 21 16:47:57 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux, isn't this 64-bit?
[10:30] <capiCrimm> carthik, got it thanks
[10:30] <carthik> capiCrimm, i love that setting :)
[10:30] <scifi> ic56: its in nautilus, in places and on the desktop
[10:31] <carthik> capiCrimm, also, if you create a dir called "Documents" then a bookmark for that is automatically created. Which is another crowd favorite around my house
[10:31] <ic56> carthik: from a command line, type: dmesg  |grep hd.:   The output should refresh your memory
[10:31] <carthik> ic56, like I said that is on  my desktop which is geographically distant now :)
[10:31] <Pf123> ic56, be right back
[10:32] <ic56> scifi: yes, the drive "name" can be changed in those places.  You have 2 options: either mounted at a different mountpoint or else create a symbolic link by a different name to that mount point.
[10:33] <tjcracker> is the installer fix all that is new in beta 2
[10:33] <Orunitia> Is there a partitioner that will create an ntfs partition?
[10:33] <ic56> carthik: oh, I see. oh well.  BTW, the SATA drive is treated as SCSI eh?
[10:33] <scifi> ic56: ive tried symbolic links, but the default desktop links stay there as well, they cant be deleted
[10:34] <Wolvenhaven> !mounting
[10:34] <ubotu> Wolvenhaven: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:34] <carthik> I am not sure it it was hdc or sdc ic56
[10:34] <Pf|BRB> back
[10:34] <ic56> carthik: ok, thanks.
[10:34] <anthony> _jason: k did that
[10:34] <_jason> anthony: ok, so now you are in X?
[10:35] <sciyoshi> you can use fdisk to make a partition and mkfs.ntfs to make the filesystem on it
[10:35] <anthony> jason_: it quit automatic and returned to terminal
[10:35] <Wolvenhaven> how do i make my ntfs(windows) drive show up on ubuntu
[10:35] <unen> anyone in here use cedega or other transgaming software?
[10:35] <ic56> scifi: ok then, you prefer to mount at a different mount point.  Call on me when I'm done w/ carthik, if someone else hasn't helped you by then.
[10:35] <_jason> anthony: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[10:35] <sciyoshi> yea cedega
[10:36] <Pf123> i got a feeling i might just stick to windows :\
[10:36] <Wolvenhaven> lol
[10:36] <unen> sciyoshi: whatcha play on it, jc?
[10:36] <Wolvenhaven> im feeling that way too
[10:36] <sciyoshi> c+c generals mostly :-)
[10:36] <anthony> _jason: k did that
[10:36] <sciyoshi> except network doesnt work, so i just switch to win for that
[10:36] <Wolvenhaven> !wireless
[10:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[10:36] <_jason> anthony: ok, and X started fine?
[10:36] <unen> sciyoshi: hmm... has it worked well from ur experiences?
[10:36] <ic56> Pf123: ok, so you click on manual editing and only one drive is listed.  What is it's name again?
[10:36] <anthony> _jason: think so
[10:37] <Pf123> media/sda1, sda1, sda3
[10:37] <scifi> ic56: a different mount pnt i dont understand, i mounted them in /media, but the desktop icons were created automatically.
[10:37] <_jason> anthony: umm are you at the login screen?
[10:37] <Pf123> its my 250gb partitioned into 3
[10:37] <sciyoshi> better than vanilla wine
[10:37] <sciyoshi> :-)
[10:37] <sciyoshi> more support for directx i think
[10:37] <anthony> _jason: no in GNOME
[10:37] <unen> sciyoshi: so would u recommend it over a dual boot?
[10:37] <anthony> normal use
[10:37] <carthik> scifi, is that a fat32 drive that you want to change the label for? In any case, you can write a custom udev rule to have it mount at the same mount points. If it is a fat32 drive, you can change the volume label using mtools. http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/index.php?s=mtools
[10:37] <ic56> busy now, scifi, ask me later or ask others.
[10:37] <_jason> anthony: k, what does 'uname -r' say?
[10:37] <sciyoshi> meh, it depends what games you want to play
[10:38] <sciyoshi> what are you thinking about?
[10:38] <scifi> carthik: its an ntfs
[10:38] <mike10> hello guys can anybody help read my sd cards?
[10:38] <anthony> _jason: im new to linux, how do I check?
[10:38] <mike10> i have a laptop ibm x40
[10:38] <unen> sciyoshi: mostly bf42, bf2, wow, and oblivion, civ4, among others
[10:38] <ic56> Pf123: I'm thinking having both of them on the same bus may be a problem.
[10:38] <_jason> anthony: applications > accessories > terminal
[10:38] <_jason> uname -r is just a command
[10:38] <Pf123> yes, but unplugging my sata still doesnt make it show up
[10:38] <anthony> k
[10:38] <anthony> 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[10:39] <ic56> Pf123: did you get around to checking your BIOS?  Did it recognize both as primary & slave on the same bus?
[10:39] <anthony> _jason: it says
[10:39] <anthony> 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[10:39] <sciyoshi> hmm, i know wow and civ4 are supported, but it might take tweaking
[10:39] <carthik> scifi, easiest way: change the volume label for that drive in Windows (using windows). The next time you mount it, it will show up with that label (/medi/LABEL)
[10:39] <Pf123> yes
[10:39] <Pf123> right now, i switched the jumpers back..250 is primary, 80 is slav
[10:39] <Pf123> it works perfect with windows :\
[10:39] <scifi> hmmm
[10:39] <_jason> is linux-restricted-modules-386 the proper package for a 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic kernel?
[10:39] <unen> sciyoshi: damn... well, thats part of why i got into linux, to be on the frontier... so if it takes tweaking, then tweaking ill do!
[10:39] <sciyoshi> haha
[10:40] <ic56> Pf123: hmmm, you unplugged the SATA, and changed the jumpers on the IDE, remembered to connect both the power cord and the IDE ribbon cable to the IDE drive, and Ubuntu install still didn't see it?
[10:40] <Pf123> yes
[10:40] <unen> WHO WANTS TO SEE MORE GAMES NATIVE TO LINUX!
[10:40] <_jason> !caps
[10:40] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[10:40] <ic56> Pf123: and your BIOS *did* recognize it?
[10:40] <scifi> ME unen
[10:40] <Pf123> yes
[10:40] <anthony> 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[10:40] <GigaClon> me too unen
[10:40] <_jason> anthony: ok, let's assume it is... did you install linux-restricted-modules-386?
[10:41] <Pf123> if it to boot from harddrive, winxp will boot off the 80gb...but i want to reformat it, and get ubuntu on the 80
[10:41] <Nick_Hill> DAPPA bug: install not booting with i810 chipset. Is this a known bug/ where should I report it?
[10:41] <ic56> Pf123: like, you went in the auto-detect disks BIOS config option and you walked through it trying to detect each of the 4 drives?
[10:41] <unen> soon, soon the world will free itself from the chains of windows tyranny
[10:41] <anthony> I could;t find it
[10:41] <Pf123> that? no
[10:41] <anthony> there wasnt any
[10:41] <Pf123> bios just shows that my 80 would be in primary, i have no idea what you talked about there :S
[10:41] <_jason> anthony: ah that explains it, you need to enable the restricted repo, I'll send you a link in a second on how to do that
[10:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell anthony about repos
[10:42] <mike10> hay anybody help read my sd cards on my laptop card reader?
[10:42] <bcof> anybody have experience dual booting off an external hd?
[10:42] <anthony> tnx
[10:42] <anthony> ill try it
[10:42] <_jason> anthony: continue from step 11 in the guide once you install it
[10:42] <ic56> Pf123: bios showing it as primary doesn't prove the BIOS detected it.  It just means you manually told the BIOS it's there and the BIOS believed you.
[10:43] <Zarephath> I need to copy a small file to my ntfs partition...(yes I know this is risky)...I added umask=0222 and I can access the drive..but I still see the little lock icon on the hard drive folder?
[10:43] <Selophane> rob, u around?
[10:43] <anthony> if I have problems I tell you later...tnx
[10:43] <Nick_Hill> Given that I can;t file a bug with malone for a pre-install bug, where should I send it?
[10:43] <_jason> anthony: k
[10:43] <Nick_Hill> ..With Dappa
[10:43] <spectei> hey all, this is probably a really easy question but how do you get the libdvdcss pacakage ?
[10:43] <spectei> *package
[10:43] <_jason> !dvd
[10:43] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[10:43] <ic56> Pf123: reboot, go into the BIOS config menu, and, what brand of BIOS do you have?
[10:43] <Pf123> the harddrive is there, i can see it :p
[10:43] <spectei> thanks
[10:43] <jakl> where can i find a list of latest repositories for ubuntu^
[10:43] <jakl> ?
[10:43] <Pf123> via technologies
[10:44] <ic56> Pf123: very cute :-)
[10:44] <HunterZ> hi, in the amd64 ubuntu dapper have wmv codec?
[10:44] <ic56> Pf123: ok, does the menu have one or two columns?
[10:44] <Zarephath> jackl: easyubuntu
[10:44] <Pf123> 2 columns
[10:44] <bcof> where should I look for help with a broken GRUB?
[10:44] <_jason> !grub
[10:44] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:44] <Zarephath> !tell HunterZ about restricted
[10:44] <Nick_Hill> bcof, have you tried grub-install ?
[10:44] <ic56> Pf123: look in the right column.  Is there something about "detect drives"?
[10:45] <Pf123> nope
[10:45] <bcof> i installed it as part of the usual ubuntu instalation
[10:45] <Zarephath> HunterZ: Read through that page and you'll have your answer :-)
[10:45] <Pf123> should i go into advanced bios features?
[10:45] <mike10> anybody help read my sd cards on my laptop card reader?
[10:45] <grimboy> Hmm... aparantly I ought to have the file /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile from python, but I don't
[10:45] <ic56> Pf123: not advanced features
[10:45] <HunterZ> ok thx
[10:45] <slavik> what calender program can I use?
[10:45] <bcof> and then when i rebooted to continue the install, i get grub errors and i cant run windows or ubuntu
[10:45] <ic56> Pf123: let's walk through them.  this will get long winded so let's switch to a private channel.  How's #ic56?
[10:45] <_jason> slavik: evolution?
[10:45] <Nick_Hill> Where should I file pre-install bugs for Dappa?
[10:45] <Pf123> sure
[10:46] <slavik> _jason: without setting up email and such
[10:46] <Zarephath> Nick_Hill: Ask in #ubuntu+1 that is for Dapper questions
[10:46] <roryy> !bug
[10:46] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[10:46] <_jason> slavik: you can just use the calendar feature, that's all I use it for
[10:46] <Nick_Hill> Zarephath, Thanks
[10:46] <_jason> slavik: actually I use calendar.google.com and tell evolution to sync up with it
[10:46] <Zarephath> Nick_Hill: np
[10:47] <slavik> k
[10:47] <bcof> Nick_Hill: did you say you knew something about grubs?
[10:47] <mba> hey im new at ubuntu... how do i download codecs so i can do my music?
[10:47] <Nick_Hill> bcof, yes
[10:48] <Zarephath> mba: Check this out
[10:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell mba about multimedia
[10:48] <Zarephath> !tell mba about restricted
[10:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell mba about mp3
[10:48] <unen> wait, is there an mp3 codec for linux?
[10:48] <bcof> where would you advise I look to learn how to fix it?
[10:48] <polpak> unen: yes
[10:48] <Selophane> anyone here install ubuntu/kubuntu on a Compaq Presario M2000 series (M2010CA to be exact) with any success?
[10:49] <polpak> !tell unen about restricted
[10:49] <Selophane> i can't get the dang thing to stop freezing upon loading x-interface
[10:49] <grimboy> Hmm... aparantly I ought to have the file /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile from python, but I don't. Can anyone help? What package would I need to get to get this file?
[10:49] <unen> polpak: haha, ur quite a help... is it the one in automatix?
[10:49] <polpak> unen: no idea, I don't use automatix
[10:49] <Manifold> Jeez, so many people.
[10:49] <unen> polpak: hokie dokie
[10:49] <Plouj> this seems out of date: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Flash#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba
[10:50] <Selophane> i got the system to successfully boot a total of 1 times
[10:50] <gnomefreak> Plouj: why do you say that?
[10:50] <Plouj> where else can I download the w32codecs?
[10:50] <Plouj> gnomefreak: cuz when I try the wget command it says no such file
[10:50] <gnomefreak> Plouj: are you on 64bit kernel?
[10:50] <bcof> whats the difference between a GRUB and a LILO?
[10:50] <Plouj> no
[10:50] <slavik> bcof: grub is more recent I think
[10:50] <Plouj> plain 'ol 32bit system
[10:51] <capiCrimm> bconf, grub is a little pretties(GUI)
[10:51] <_jason> Plouj: works for me
[10:51] <gnomefreak> Plouj: the repo maybe being worked on
[10:51] <bcof> so you don't need both grub and lilo to install ubuntu?
[10:51] <ProN00b> ok, according to kernel logs, my webcam seems to have been detected, how can i get a test picture ?
[10:51] <Manifold> Nope.
[10:51] <gnomefreak> i did it 2 days ago and worked here too
[10:51] <gnomefreak> bcof: no
[10:52] <_jason> Plouj: I'll dcc it to you if you want but I just downloaded it
[10:52] <Shigutso> where can I find a DLL pack for Wine? Does this exist?
[10:52] <DaSkreech> Did someone ban wubrgamer?
[10:52] <grimboy> \q
[10:53] <bcof> is there anything I can do if the grub keeps havng errors when i start the computer, and won't load an operating system?
[10:53] <DaSkreech> He's sorry for his sins and would like to be admitted in the clan of #ubuntu again
[10:53] <arrick> rewrite the grub
[10:53] <bcof> by reinstalling?
[10:53] <arrick> just rewrite it
[10:53] <Plouj> _jason: don't bother, thanks. It appears that I typed it wrong.
[10:53] <bcof> i'm not sure what that entails
[10:53] <arrick> !grub
[10:53] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:54] <Shigutso> where can I find a DLL pack for Wine? Does this exist?
[10:54] <devscott-laptop> !lsmod
[10:54] <ubotu> devscott-laptop: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:54] <arrick> !wine
[10:54] <produkt> where can I find linux-headers-2.6.15-20-386???
[10:54] <bcof> thank you, i'll try that
[10:54] <arrick> !wine
[10:54] <Manifold> !dapper
[10:54] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[10:54] <steffi> anyone has gxine 0.5.6 installed?
[10:54] <anthony> _jason
[10:54] <parlament> can i try xfce and if i don't like it just deinstall it again?
[10:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell steffi about anyone
[10:55] <_jason> anthony: hi
[10:55] <anthony> i did that step and they didnt show up yet
[10:55] <Shigutso> where can I find a DLL Pack for Wine?
[10:55] <Apostle^> can anyone here help me with bluetooth
[10:55] <polpak> Shigutso: dll's for what?
[10:55] <_jason> anthony: please do this 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list', then copy and paste the contents of that file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a link after you post it
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Shigutso: the exe should have the dll's needed for the app in it already
[10:56] <gnomefreak> if not windows needs to look over their freindliness
[10:56] <Shigutso> polpak, for programs... like my Photoshop 7 is asking for AGM.dll... but it already exists in its folder...
[10:56] <Shigutso> gnomefreak, i don't think so :/
[10:57] <polpak> Shigutso: perhaps you need to change the working directory when you run the program then?
[10:57] <_jason> can someone tell me what the proper linux-restricted-* package is needed to enable the nvidia drivers on a 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic kernel?
[10:58] <Apostle^> can somone help me with bluetooth please, my headset refuses to work, it says pairing not allowed on ubuntu
[10:58] <iceman> ok, anyone know how to mount a UNIX harddrive for read/Write from the live cd ?
[10:59] <mfatih> hi everybody
[10:59] <slavik> hmm, I connected my pda to my laptop, how do I pair it and such?
[10:59] <scenestar> hey hey
[10:59] <zith> is there a good way to have one of my computers' sound output to act as a sound card to other computers so i can play music over the network?
[10:59] <iceman> How to Mount this harddrive in READ?WRITE for modify ability
[10:59] <gnomefreak> _jason: sorry i have never used 64 bit but should be in synaptic
[10:59] <scenestar> i wrote a script that automatically installs all windows fonts for users
[11:00] <Apostle^> can somone help me with bluetooth please, my headset refuses to work, it says pairing not allowed on ubuntu
[11:00] <r0xoR> why would my screen resolution switch to 640x480 when i go to Applications->System Tools->New Login
[11:00] <scenestar> can someone help me find some space to host the fonts and the script?
[11:00] <deefzi> how can i get wmv-videos working :-/
[11:00] <Plouj> Apostle^: repeating your question isn't going to help you
[11:00] <scenestar> deefzi w32codecs
[11:00] <r0xoR> i've got my resolution set at 1600x1200 but when i go to New Login, the resolution for both GDM and the new login itself are set to 640x480
[11:00] <Tedd> deefzi, have you tried w32codecs
[11:00] <_jason> gnomefreak: hmm, trying to help anthony figure it out
[11:00] <mfatih> i have a problem with expresso
[11:00] <r0xoR> i went to the screen resolution panel on the new login but the only choice it has is 640x480
[11:00] <deefzi> scenestar & Tedd, yes.
[11:00] <r0xoR> anyone have any ideas?
[11:00] <Tedd> hm
[11:01] <dli> r0xoR, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:01] <gnomefreak> ok _jason one min i think i have something on that
[11:01] <r0xoR> dli, ok and what will that do?
[11:01] <r0xoR> dli, i did recompile my kernel from scratch, but i don't think that should have anything to do with it...
[11:01] <rem__> how do you detect a wifi pcmcia card when its not detected automatically ... ?
[11:01] <rem__> yes its compatible ..
[11:02] <dli> rem__, what's the card?
[11:02] <mba> i really suck at this...  can i download codecs for the torren movieplayer?
[11:02] <slavik> how do I access my PDA?
[11:02] <rem__> surecom
[11:02] <slavik> it's connected and configured according to dmesg
[11:02] <gnomefreak> _jason: maybe linux-restricted-modules-k8???
[11:03] <mirak> hi
[11:03] <mfatih> i have a problem with expresso. the problem is grub..
[11:03] <mfatih> i can try to mount my disk & chroot to my base partition. my disk is hda but grub-install return this error `/dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.`
[11:03] <mfatih> how can i fix this grub problem :(
[11:03] <gnomefreak> _jason: assuming k8 is the only 64 bit kernel
[11:03] <scenestar> ok
[11:03] <_jason> gnomefreak: I'm going to go with linux-restricted-modules-amd64-generic .  I was using apt-cache but amd64 packages don't show up there, so I went to packages.ubuntu.com :P
[11:03] <scenestar> so i see noone is any good to me here
[11:03] <scenestar> have fun noobies
[11:04] <rem__> rt 2500 chipset, surecom ep-9428-g pcmcia wifi card
[11:04] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[11:04] <dli> rem__, you have pcmcia detected? "lsmod"
[11:04] <iceman> Help please, how to mount a UNIX "OPENSTEP" harddrive from the live cd ... i need read write access ... PLease
[11:05] <bruceleen> buonasera a tutti
[11:06] <r0xoR> dli, so you're saying the problem is somewhere in my xorg.conf?
[11:06] <dli> r0xoR, yes
[11:06] <r0xoR> dli, i don't see why i should need to re-set up the mouse and keyboard and stuff and all that...
[11:06] <mythica> hi guys
[11:06] <mythica> how would i go about installing my Sunix Pci to PC Card adapter?
[11:06] <mythica> I assume I need drivers for it?
[11:06] <r0xoR> dli, got any idea what part of my xorg.conf isn't configured correctly?
[11:06] <hrach> q
[11:07] <Rhisc> hey
[11:07] <Blissex> mythica: either they are already in the kernel or ad luck.
[11:07] <jakobjs> anyone else having this problem with Dapper Beta2 + Xgl CVS (using beerorkid.com rep) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=972093#post972093
[11:07] <Blissex> mythica: hope that it uses the same PCMCIA chipset that most laptops use.
[11:07] <Blissex> mythica: in that case the drivers are already in the kernel.
[11:07] <jakobjs> I can't install xserver-xgl cos it conflicts with the base package :(
[11:08] <Blissex> jakobjs: you are lucky :-).
[11:08] <mythica> ok
[11:08] <jakobjs> blissex: lucky?
[11:08] <mythica> *ulp*
[11:08] <mythica> otherwise im screwed?
[11:08] <Blissex> mythica: most likely...
[11:08] <iceman> Command line from live cd to mount a UNIX harddrive ? PLease ?
[11:08] <Blissex> mythica: but try :-). Make sure you use 'lspci' to check the type of chipset.
[11:08] <jakobjs> blissex: what do u mean?
[11:09] <r0xoR> dli, http://pastebin.com/691080
[11:09] <MisterN> re
[11:09] <r0xoR> dli, that's my current xorg.conf
[11:09] <r0xoR> everything looks just fine to me
[11:09] <Blissex> jakobjs: the package system is preventing you from installing unreliable bleeding edge pointless glitzy stuff :-)
[11:09] <mythica> hmm
[11:09] <mythica> dont see anything under lspci that could be it...
[11:09] <Blissex> iceman: 'man 8 mount' or something like 'mount -t auto /dev/hdaN /mnt/hdaN'
[11:10] <r0xoR> i honestly don't see how reconfiguring xorg.conf is going to solve my problem... i don't need a gui tool to understand my xorg.conf ...
[11:10] <immolo> Blissex, but eyes need candy too
[11:10] <r0xoR> i'd rather understand the actual problem
[11:10] <Blissex> immolo: for eye candy I prefer HorOrNot.com :-)
[11:10] <hrach> Hallo, can I install  original driver from NVIDIA to Dapper?
[11:11] <dli> hrach, "original"?
[11:11] <r0xoR> ie, if running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg *will* solve my problem then *why* does it solve the problem? and why can't i just add or change what i need to by hand
[11:11] <Blissex> hrach: probably, not necessarily a good idea.
[11:11] <sword-> mplayer tends to slow down when i move a window in the background
[11:11] <sword-> how do i resolve that
[11:11] <r0xoR> hrach, easyubunty
[11:11] <r0xoR> hrach, easyubuntu, sry
[11:11] <Blissex> r0xoR: wait a moment, whats your problem?
[11:11] <sword-> for example if a firefox page is loading, mplayer will slow down
[11:11] <hrach> Blissex, why not good idea?
[11:11] <dli> sword-, mplayer video window to background?
[11:11] <bbrazil> sword-: turn on frame skipping
[11:12] <r0xoR> Blissex, upon Applications->System Tools->New Login the resolution of my screen gets switched to 640x480 when GDM comes on
[11:12] <hrach> it works on debian well
[11:12] <Bilange> anyone has some experience with TV Tuners under ubuntu?
[11:12] <bbrazil> sword-: I think it's "s"
[11:12] <sword-> dli, it just skips etc
[11:12] <sword-> bbrazil, ?
[11:12] <_jason> sword-: you could try give it a lower nice value?
[11:12] <sword-> let me check
[11:12] <r0xoR> Blissex, my current resolution is set at 1600x1200 and it's running there quite nicely
[11:12] <sword-> i'm using kubuntu
[11:12] <iceman> wow colse to mountiging ... "you must specify the file system type ?
[11:12] <r0xoR> Blissex, this didn't happen last time i installed ubuntu
[11:13] <bbrazil> sword-: frameskipping means it won't try to render every frame, it'll skip them to keep up time wise
[11:13] <Blissex> r0xoR: it would be more interesting to see the log -- also more details as to the system, like card and number of screens etc.
[11:13] <r0xoR> Blissex, but i have recompiled my kernel from scratch... so that *might* have something to do with it, though my my machine runs my personal login at 1600x1200 it doesn't make sense why it would switch to 640x480
[11:13] <iceman> Blissex tried to mount, but it says i must specify the file system type
[11:13] <r0xoR> Blissex, http://pastebin.com/691080
[11:13] <r0xoR> my current xorg.conf
[11:13] <Blissex> iceman: so specify it...
[11:13] <r0xoR> Blissex, where are the logs i should be looking at?
[11:13] <sword-> bbrazil, i don't see that option
[11:13] <sword-> all i see is
[11:14] <Blissex> r0xoR: I had a look at it, the log would be more interesting... '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[11:14] <iceman> Blissix ? im still a newb at command line
[11:14] <sword-> enable double buffering, enable direct rendering, enable frame droppng
[11:14] <arrick> hey Blissex whats up
[11:14] <bbrazil> sword-: I've never actually using the gui, only the cli for mplayer
[11:14] <Talisker> hello, I have a .deb file which should be installed. dpkg install foo.deb should work, but it doesn't
[11:14] <arrick> hey nickrud you there?
[11:14] <Talisker> The damn thing asks me for options and shit
[11:14] <Blissex> iceman: well, I don't know what type of filesystem you are trying to mount.
[11:14] <arrick> anyone here ever see this computer before at this site?
[11:14] <arrick> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/7/new_macs.html
[11:15] <dli> sword-, using -vo xv ?
[11:15] <ubijtsa> Talisker: try dpkg -i package.deb
[11:15] <iceman> Blissex its "bsd" unix based .... Openstep... filesysystem ...
[11:15] <r0xoR> Blissex, xorg log file: http://pastebin.com/691091
[11:15] <Talisker> thanks
[11:15] <HaxoR91> hello there
[11:15] <Blissex> iceman: BSD, Linux, OpenStep are all UNIX clones...
[11:15] <dli> sword-, good idea, try "mplayer" instead "gmplayer"
[11:15] <HaxoR91> how much is wine cedega?
[11:16] <ubijtsa> Blissex: for some value of..
[11:16] <iceman> It's open step filesystem .. openstep installed on the drive ..
[11:16] <biovore> HaxoR91: subscription based
[11:16] <HaxoR91> for gaming
[11:16] <biovore> HaxoR91: I think its lke $30 a month..
[11:16] <HaxoR91> wow why?
[11:16] <Blissex> ubijtsa: pretty close to 1 actually -- they are all just about POSIX compliant :-)
[11:16] <HaxoR91> i want to get steampowered running on ubuntu
[11:16] <HaxoR91> but cant
[11:16] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, i thought it was a lot cheaper
[11:16] <unen> wait
[11:16] <btaylor5619> Can anyone here help me with the answer to a question?
[11:16] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, i thought it was like $6
[11:16] <unen> cedega is $5 a month
[11:16] <dreamthief> lol
[11:16] <r0xoR> yeah i thought so
[11:16] <HaxoR91> really?
[11:16] <unen> yeah
[11:16] <biovore> HaxoR91: its subscription.. for 3 months or something like, where you get all the updates and all
[11:16] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, i'm pretty sure yeah
[11:17] <dreamthief> yes, it's only 5$
[11:17] <unen> but its debatable whether its better than just a dual boot with windows
[11:17] <HaxoR91> can you send me a link pleasE?
[11:17] <r0xoR> cedega.com
[11:17] <biovore> www.transgamming.com
[11:17] <unen> www.transgaming.com
[11:17] <dreamthief> ^^
[11:17] <iceman> Blissex how to mount "openstep" harddrive for read / write ?
[11:17] <arrick> !justask
[11:17] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[11:17] <Blissex> iceman: probably not possible in read-write, probably possible only read-only.
[11:18] <iceman> Blissex ... well worthe trying ...
[11:18] <Blissex> iceman: also, usually BSD based systems use a different partitioning scheme from PC based ones, so perhaps you need to take that into account too.
[11:18] <btaylor5619> Is it possible to add a software source, outside those known to Ubuntu, to the Synaptic Package Manager?
[11:18] <Blissex> iceman: but try with '-t ufs'
[11:18] <dli> icewan openstep uses ufs
[11:18] <iceman> Blissex it's OpenStep installed to a PC .. INTEL
[11:18] <r0xoR> Blissex, so how interesting is that xorg log? cuz i can't really make heads nor tails of it
[11:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> btaylor5619: yes, just add the line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:18] <Blissex> iceman: same...
[11:19] <btaylor5619> Right.  I'll see what I can find.
[11:19] <mythica> how would i find the chipset type of my pci > pcmcia card?
[11:19] <biovore> UFS is real only on linux :-/
[11:19] <Blissex> r0xoR: it is OK, it would be better if there was the GDM event in it.
[11:19] <r0xoR> the gdm event... ok how do i find that?
[11:19] <biovore> iceman: there is now write support for UFS on linux
[11:19] <biovore> (no)
[11:20] <Blissex> r0xoR: are you sure it is not GDM that resets the screen size?
[11:20] <Rhisc> mythica: i think it lpci
[11:20] <Rhisc> mythica: not sur though
[11:20] <r0xoR> Blissex, i'm not sure of anything at the moment that's why i'm asking you guys
[11:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lspci
[11:20] <Rhisc> how do you run executables from a condole wondow?
[11:20] <r0xoR> Rhisc, ./exename
[11:20] <Blissex> r0xoR: well, the idea as to the event would be to get the log of an X session in which the resizing happened.
[11:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Rhisc: type in their path
[11:20] <dreamthief> oh my god - this irc client is really ugly *uargh*
[11:21] <RossH> xchat gnome
[11:21] <RossH> yes it is
[11:21] <HaxoR91> do you need credit card?
[11:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s/path/paths/
[11:21] <iceman> Blissex /mnt/hdaN does not exist ...
[11:21] <dreamthief> yes it's ugly like hell
[11:21] <Rhisc> thanks
[11:21] <Blissex> iceman: you have to use the right name, that was an example./
[11:21] <Rhisc> dreamthief,: what are you using?
[11:21] <r0xoR> Blissex, ok so as i asked before... where do i find said logs
[11:21] <dreamthief> xchat gnome *lol*
[11:21] <Blissex> r0xoR: same name.
[11:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> irssi, fullscreen ^_^
[11:22] <Rhisc> xchat isnt bad
[11:22] <r0xoR> Blissex, ? lol same name as...
[11:22] <Rhisc> you just gotta configure it
[11:22] <HaxoR91> do i have to pay for cedega with credit card?
[11:22] <RossH> xchat rocks....xchat gnome sucks
[11:22] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, iirc... yes
[11:22] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, unless you want to wait a week for a check in the snail mail
[11:22] <HaxoR91> i dont have credit card though
[11:22] <HaxoR91> no
[11:22] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, paypal account?
[11:23] <HaxoR91> can't i run steam and half life on the latest wine?
[11:23] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, doubt it
[11:23] <HaxoR91> why?
[11:23] <iceman> Blissex should be hda0 ... :(   "  /mnt/hda0 " does not exist
[11:23] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, that's what cedega is for
[11:23] <HaxoR91> aww crap
[11:23] <Blissex> iceman: thats why I was mentioning the difference between the PC and the BSD way of doing partitions...
[11:24] <r0xoR> HaxoR91, dude, it's $5, have a friend or family member use their credit card and hand them $5
[11:24] <Blissex> iceman: try 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' or whatever the disk is.
[11:24] <dreamthief> I completely switched to ubuntu with aiglx enabled when I accidentally crashed my 55 gig partition one week ago ^^ but sometimes is miss the comfort om some windows-based tools...
[11:24] <dli> Blissex, since openstep must be open, why no write support for ufs in kernel?
[11:24] <dreamthief> is --> I
[11:24] <HaxoR91> i have a sister
[11:24] <HaxoR91> = \
[11:24] <HaxoR91> lol
[11:24] <highvoltage> HaxoR91: is she hot?
[11:24] <HaxoR91> lol
[11:24] <HaxoR91> yes
[11:24] <HaxoR91> i guess
[11:24] <HaxoR91> = \
[11:24] <dreamthief> rofl
[11:24] <highvoltage> is she into ubuntu?
[11:25] <HaxoR91> NOOO
[11:25] <r0xoR> !punctuation
[11:25] <ubotu> Please don't use the enter key as punctuation. It floods the channel, makes your stuff harder to read, and is just downright annoying.
[11:25] <HaxoR91> she hates linux
[11:25] <highvoltage> :/
[11:25] <HaxoR91> =\
[11:25] <r0xoR> !tell HaxoR91 about punctuation
[11:25] <highvoltage> why is she batting for the wrong side?
[11:25] <Blissex> dli: because porting filesystem drivers is hard work actually.
[11:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !offtopic
[11:26] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:26] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, hey mang
[11:26] <dli> Blissex, too bad, I was hoping people to port reiser4 to hurd and bsd
[11:26] <iceman> Shoot has to be a way to mount this drive ?
[11:26] <Blissex> dli: it is indeed hard work...
[11:27] <dli> Blissex, does ubuntu support reiser4 natively? or will?
[11:27] <Blissex> dli: read-write is the hardest bit, because it involves locking and race conditions.
[11:27] <Blissex> dli: I have no idea. I personally prefer JFS actually.
[11:27] <r0xoR> Blissex, so you still haven't told me where my xsession log is...
[11:27] <dli> Blissex, jfs is good, fast journal replay
[11:28] <Blissex> r0xoR: not the xsession log, but the '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' in an X session in which you have used GDM.
[11:29] <dreamthief> what about xfs? *g* I'm using xfs with LVM and it's great *g* adding diskspace on the fly to any partition is not so bad ...
[11:29] <dli> iceman, install openstep or *BSD
[11:29] <r0xoR> Blissex, uhhh they're all sessions in which i've used GDM
[11:29] <r0xoR> that's my display manager
[11:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ZFS all the way =)
[11:29] <Blissex> dli: I have done fairly extensive filesystem tests and more recently here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno06-2nd.html#060424
[11:29] <r0xoR> Blissex, i just used GDM like a few minutes ago before i came in here and asked about the problem i'm having
[11:30] <Blissex> r0xoR: and it started in 640x480 and you are still using it in 640x480?
[11:30] <ic56> I right-clicked on the lifesaver icon in the GNOME panel, selected properties, and got the "Launcher properties" window.  I then clicked on the image of the icon and changed the choice of icon from /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/gnome-help.png to the same under 24x24.  I rebooted.  The size of the icon in the panel is the same.  Why?
[11:30] <iceman> Opensteps installed ... but i want acces to the drive from linux to make some edit's .... do not know vi ... and cant gain a root gui in openstep ...
[11:30] <r0xoR> Blissex, no i'm back to my login, which is running at 1600x1200
[11:30] <Blissex> r0xoR: then it is a different X session...
[11:30] <Nigel-> http://fbi.gov.swellserver.com/drag_net.php
[11:30] <dli> Blissex, nice benchmark, but no reiser4
[11:30] <karim> help
[11:30] <r0xoR> Blissex, ahhh, so where do i find the log for that xsession then
[11:31] <r0xoR> Blissex, btw, i'm still logged in to the other one
[11:31] <Blissex> r0xoR: either it is '/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old' or you gotta do it again. If you have two X sessions open at the same time, look at '/var/log/Xorg.1.log'
[11:31] <r0xoR> Blissex, CTRL-ALT-F7 gives me my login with 1600x1200, and CTRL-ALT-F8 gives me the new login with 640x480
[11:32] <dli> Blissex, indeed, I use only jfs and reiser4 nowadays, jfs is the second best
[11:32] <Blissex> r0xoR: then for CTRL-ALT-F8 it is indeed  '/var/log/Xorg.1.log'
[11:32] <ic56> iceman: what's the problem again?
[11:32] <r0xoR> Blissex, mmm except i don't have that, i have Xorg.20.log
[11:32] <r0xoR> and Xorg.0.log
[11:32] <iceman> how to MOunt a openstep harddrive in linux
[11:32] <r0xoR> and Xorg.20.log.old and Xorg.0.log.old
[11:33] <iceman> Mount point /mnt/hda0 does not exist ...
[11:33] <toni123> Hello
[11:33] <r0xoR> iceman, mnt /dev/hdx? /some/folder
[11:33] <Blissex> r0xoR: if you have 'Xorg.20.log' I suspect that you are running some evil experimental server.
[11:33] <r0xoR> er
[11:33] <r0xoR> iceman, mount /dev/hdx? /some/folder
[11:33] <r0xoR> sorry, gotta use the full word
[11:34] <r0xoR> Blissex? experimental... grrr... the only thing i've done to this box "out of the ordinary" is compile a custom kernel
[11:34] <toni123> iceman maltese?
[11:34] <madflying__> hello there
[11:34] <mathrick> hi, what is devhelp-book-glibc called now?
[11:35] <madflying__> i installed a cpl of days ago ubuntu...
[11:35] <madflying__> it is great....but i am trying to change the resolution of my laptop
[11:35] <crunchyfish> has anyone had a problem with the dapper livecd during setup that says "hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit?", and it'll post that error a few times and then finally boot, and as soon as the desktop shows up the pc will either freeze or reboot?
[11:35] <madflying__> and i couldn t get to work
[11:36] <madflying__> i have tried to edit the xorg file...but no success
[11:36] <toni123> i have a problem with kubuntu
[11:36] <iceman> damit cant find the correct filesystem
[11:36] <mathrick> madflying__: tried screen resolution applet?
[11:36] <toni123> *ubuntu
[11:36] <mathrick> madflying__: system->prefs->screen resolution
[11:36] <toni123> my graphics go nuts after a few minutes
[11:37] <madflying__> done that, max resolution is 1024
[11:37] <ic56> iceman: is this an IBM-compatible class machine?  Is that an IDE harddisk?
[11:38] <mathrick> madflying__: ah, then you want to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I believe
[11:38] <iceman> ic56 IDe chanel hda0 .. in a AMD motherboard ...
[11:38] <mathrick> madflying__: don't be scared by the UI
[11:38] <madflying__> hmmm let me try that....
[11:38] <toni123> iceman: u maltese?
[11:38] <mathrick> madflying__: and ignore all choices except the desired resolutions set
[11:39] <iceman> ?
[11:39] <ic56> iceman: so, the disk you are trying to mount is /dev/hda ? How do you know?
[11:39] <madflying__> need to run the cmd as root
[11:39] <toni123> I meant are you Maltese?
[11:39] <madflying__> soory
[11:39] <mathrick> madflying__: that's why I said sudo
[11:39] <madflying__> missed sudo bit
[11:40] <iceman> Should be on that channel ... its the primary harddrive in the box ...
[11:40] <ic56> iceman: ok, if that's the case, what does "fdisk /dev/hda" say?
[11:41] <ic56> iceman: don't paste fdisk's output here.  Just confirm that the output matches your expectation of what should be on that drive
[11:41] <iceman> Unable to open /dev/hda
[11:41] <iceman> not mounted .. ;(
[11:42] <mythica> does this sound like my pci > pcmcia card:
[11:42] <mythica> 0000:02:03.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 81)
[11:42] <soundray> mythica: it certainly does
[11:42] <ic56> iceman: fdisk doesn't care about mounting.  It works at the layer below the filesystem.  Unable to open suggests... Wait, you are using Ubuntu right? did you use sudo?
[11:43] <mythica> cool thanks
[11:43] <mythica> and that RL5... is the chipset?
[11:43] <marcelo> hello
[11:44] <ic56> !justask
[11:44] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[11:44] <mythica> does that look like it is installed/detected to you soundray?
[11:44] <Caminomaster> hello
[11:44] <iceman> shoot "had the cd accessable other day ... not installed the system, and no access to the harddrive .. :(
[11:44] <soundray> mythica: the slot is. There is no way to tell whether there is a recognized card in there.
[11:44] <mathrick> lemme ask again: what is devhelp-book-glibc called now?
[11:44] <Caminomaster> How can I use a ps2 mouse? Ubuntu don't recognize it
[11:45] <soundray> mythica: best to open a terminal and run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then insert the card.
[11:45] <toni123> I am very new to linux...never used it..what linux do you suggest easiest to use?
[11:45] <mythica> cool
[11:45] <soundray> toni123: Ubuntu. But that's a biased statement ;)
[11:45] <mathrick> toni123: ubuntu :)
[11:45] <ayabara> should I use ext2 or ext3 then I format my external hd?
[11:45] <dekela> Anyone has a good toturial on gfxboot?
[11:45] <pet_> ext3
[11:46] <Oceansblue> ?? paths added in .bash_profile not add to $PATH ?? WHY??
[11:46] <ayabara> pet_: I almost did, but saw that out of a 140GB drive, ext3 took away 10% in overhead
[11:46] <dekela> Oceansblue: Are you sure they are added to your user profile?
[11:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ayabara: Try xfs, then.
[11:47] <soundray> Oceansblue: it probably adds the paths, but they are overwritten later.
[11:47] <denix> hi all
[11:47] <Oceansblue> yes
[11:47] <Oceansblue> yes but where - it works in.bashrc
[11:47] <dekela> Hey all
[11:47] <iceman> ok wrong fs type ... not ufs ?
[11:48] <denix> somebody already had problems with orinoco / prism2 cards?
[11:48] <ompaul> ayabara, 14G what does the drive show in >>sudo fdisk -l<< ?
[11:48] <toni123> Is there any kind of emulator to run Linux on Windows???????
[11:48] <dekela> I am trying to have my ac97 onboard audio to play 5.1 but when I try it it stops playing my system sounds
[11:48] <ic56> iceman: has nothing to do with fs type. We're still trying to find the drive.
[11:48] <mfatih> hi, i have a problem with expresso. expresso says `can2t install grub` but the filesystem is installed to partition. how can i install only grub? i can2t fix this :(
[11:48] <vook> toni123, cygwin
[11:48] <Tarantulafudge> gfxboot?
[11:48] <mathrick> vook: NO
[11:48] <toni123> ?
[11:48] <vook> toni123, or vmware
[11:48] <iceman> it look close at hda ... but cannot read a filesystem type .. thats the error
[11:49] <ic56> iceman: Can you confirm for me what OS you are running?
[11:49] <dekela> toni123: vmware, qemu
[11:49] <denix> toni123: livecd
[11:49] <mathrick> toni123: disregard that, cygwin's not a serious proposal
[11:49] <soundray> Oceansblue: it's hard to debug this via IRC. Try inserting statements such as '(date ; echo $PATH) >>/tmp/pathlog' into .bashrc and .bash_profile to determine what happens to the paths.
[11:49] <dj_baggio> !stat
[11:49] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dj_baggio
[11:49] <toni123> whick is the best?
[11:49] <iceman> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda
[11:49] <madflying> hello again....tried the sudo dkpg, selected all the higher modes but no luck
[11:49] <ompaul> toni123, you could use vmware but to be honest the best way to do that would be to run linux and run vmware running windows as the guest
[11:49] <ayabara> ompaul: I am still in xp. formatting the drive is one of the steps towards my ubuntu life. I thought I'd use partition magic for the formatting.
[11:49] <Tarantulafudge> whats gfxboot
[11:49] <Oceansblue> thanks
[11:49] <vook> mathrick, is running linux on windows a serious proposal?
[11:49] <Oceansblue> I'll try it.
[11:49] <mathrick> wait, I misread, sorry
[11:49] <iceman> I know it's Openstep OS ... I installed it there
[11:50] <mathrick> vook: the buffer is moving tad too fast
[11:50] <dekela> vook: ;-)
[11:50] <vook> kinda defeats the purpose
[11:50] <ic56> iceman: what OS is running on the system you are using to access the drive?
[11:50] <denix> so, nobody play with wifi pcmcia?
[11:50] <toni123> where do I get vmware qemu, cygwin??
[11:50] <ompaul> ayabara, let the install disk do the formatting
[11:50] <dekela> ayabara: google is your friend
[11:51] <marcelo> I have a problem, the screensaver which when it begun to work the pc not work , its is not response to any acction, only turn off the pc
[11:51] <denix> toni123: www.vmware.com
[11:51] <denix> etc etc
[11:51] <ompaul> toni123, vmware.com qemu no idea cygwin is available from redhat
[11:51] <dekela> ayabara: sorry
[11:51] <marcelo> how diseable the screensaver, pls
[11:51] <denix> ;)
[11:51] <dekela> toni123: google is your friend
[11:51] <denix> toni123: and what do you think about ask google?
[11:51] <ompaul> dekela, we dont do google is your friend - don't say anything if you can't be specific in your answer thanks
[11:51] <toni123> tnx
[11:51] <dreamthief> marcelo: how do I use my brain? ^^
[11:51] <iceman> ic56 i know it's openstep ...
[11:51] <madflying> could it be a prob with the HorizSync	28-51
[11:51] <madflying> 	VertRefresh	43-60
[11:51] <vook> toni123, I withdraw my cygwin comment, that is unless you want to use mostly console tools, such as nmap, scripting, etc... always worked fine for me for that purpose
[11:52] <soundray> marcelo: if the screensaver running right now?
[11:52] <soundray> marcelo: is the screensaver running right now?
[11:52] <toni123> tnx a lot guys ;)
[11:52] <dekela> ompaul: It was an answer to web site searching.. I think people should know to use a search engine
[11:52] <mfatih> how can i fix my grub?
[11:52] <ic56> Oceansblue: I'll bet the PATH gets added if you login on a console terminal but not under X.  Am I right?
[11:53] <dekela> mfatih: whats the problem?
[11:53] <ompaul> dekela, no do it for them or don't do it at all - give answers you can support they may find dross on there the internet is not always right :-)
[11:53] <marcelo> not now, but when i will change to other screensaver, only with little display the pc not work
[11:53] <HymnToLife> !tell mfatih about grub
[11:53] <toni123> www.microsoft.com/mac/products/ virtualpc/virtualpc.aspx?pid=virtualpc
[11:53] <toni123> i meant like that
[11:53] <ayabara> dekela: np :-)
[11:53] <toni123> vistual pc
[11:53] <tortoise> is anyone working on better tablet pc support on gnome?
[11:53] <ompaul> dekela, they could get something that was for an RPM and then where would you be trying to explain this is a apt based distro :)
[11:53] <ic56> iceman: ok, so you are using openstep, not ubuntu.  I'm not familiar with that OS but I know it's unix like so maybe I can help you.  Do you know how to login as root?
[11:53] <steffi> I connected a usbdisk, I chown to my username and then I tried to chmod +w coz it's read only.. but it says "read-only" ..how I doit so I have write permition?
[11:54] <soundray> marcelo: go to System-Preferences-Screensaver and disable it there, or try Blank Screen
[11:54] <toni123> to run both windows and linux at the same time
[11:54] <ayabara> ompaul: let the install disk do the formatting even if I'm not installing on that drive?
[11:54] <dekela> ompaul: np.. I took it to my attention
[11:55] <Howitzer> Can i actually compile programs from source with the source repo's?
[11:55] <iceman> ic56 cant get root access in openstep ... not with a gui ... so I want to mount the drive in linux make a few changes in the networking files .. move some files to the drive .. and i'm done in it .. but from the live cd how to mount and read the drive
[11:55] <dekela> Anyone.. 5.1 in linux.. Is it that hard to achieve?
[11:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> iceman: mount -t ufs ufstype=openstep /devpath /mountpath doesn't work?
[11:55] <DBO> Howitzer, yeah, if you wanted, but I dont see why...
[11:55] <ic56> iceman: livecd of which OS?
[11:55] <ProN00b> i am using twinview and if i launch a fullscreen application (like a opengl game or something like that) it goes so the desktop resolution stays the same and the game goes in between the two screens and it has alot of black around it, how do i get it to display on one screen only ?
[11:55] <soundray> steffi: go to System-Preferences-Removable Drives and enable mount on hotplug. Then plug the drive in while you are logged in. After that, you should have write access.
[11:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> iceman: Sorry if I just jump in like that. :)
[11:55] <Howitzer> DBO, i'm a performancewhore
[11:55] <mfatih> i`m installing flight6 to my laptop. but grub couldn`t install. expresso returns error. filesystem is installed but i must install grub.. i can`t do it.. how can i fix/install my grub..
[11:55] <mfatih> my disk name is hda but grub-install or sfsdisk --list /dev/hda is returns errors.
[11:55] <mfatih> i have mount my root partition & chrooted. i try to run grub-install but it not worked :(
[11:55] <DBO> dekela, that depends on how you are trying to achieve it
[11:56] <Howitzer> But Arch is a tad too hard for me
[11:56] <pet_> what program can I use to monitor my wireless net??
[11:56] <dekela> DBO: Well.. I have Dapper , With Alsa configured great
[11:56] <ic56> PuMpErNiCkLe: iceman doesn't know the devpath and mountpath.
[11:56] <steffi> ok soundray thanx
[11:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ic56: ah
[11:56] <DBO> Howitzer, the precompiled debs perform plenty well =)
[11:56] <Howitzer> but aren't they modified?
[11:56] <dekela> DBO: all I want is that xine, Totem anything will be able to play my xvid 5.1 enabled movies
[11:56] <Howitzer> like, the Firefox packages are hella slow
[11:56] <DBO> dekela, should play fine with xine
[11:57] <herbchef> Are there any known issues of Totem crashing when playing Ogg files?
[11:57] <dekela> DBO: Yes but not 5.1
[11:57] <iceman> ic56 should be hda0 if i installed ubutu to the drive ir would be the primary drive on ide0
[11:57] <steffi> soundray, it is already checked
[11:57] <dekela> DBO: it gives me stereo
[11:57] <soundray> mfatih: ask dapper-related questions in #ubuntu+1
[11:57] <DBO> dekela, there is a setting in xine to change it from stereo to 5.1
[11:57] <soundray> steffi: unplug and plug the drive then.
[11:57] <dekela> DBO: Tried it got an error
[11:57] <madflying> i have tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get the resolution, even if the xorg file changed i cannot get the setting to change, any suggestion
[11:57] <ic56> iceman: what OS are your running?  Linux? Debian? Ubuntu?
[11:57] <steffi> soundray, I mean it was already checked when I connected
[11:58] <DBO> dekela, what error?
[11:58] <iceman> I have the Ubuntu live c running ... OPEN step is on the drive installed ...
[11:58] <iceman> Ubuntu live cd running
[11:58] <soundray> steffi: when you type 'mount' in a terminal by itself, do you get a line that corresponds to your drive?
[11:59] <mfatih> hmm
[11:59] <vook> madflying, have you tried just creating a new xorg.conf file with the "X -configure" command, then adjusting it with the gui tools?
[11:59] <marcelo> soundray : no its possible doing to disable to the sistem-preference-screensaver, i think that doing it in terminal session ?
[11:59] <ic56> iceman: boy, it sure took a while to get a straight answer from you.  Ok, Now that we know that you are running the Ubuntu liveCD, we can give you apropriate instructions.
[11:59] <steffi> soundray, this: usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[11:59] <ic56> iceman: get a command prompt and type this: dmesg |grep hd.:
[11:59] <dekela> DBO: "The audio device is not available Please verify if another application is using it"
[11:59] <herbchef> When Totem crashes, Bug Buddy states that I'm running Snome2.12.1 and that it is older than six months. Is there a more up to date Gnome that's been backported?
[11:59] <iceman> ic56 i said it ... sorry ... was unclear ...
[11:59] <herbchef> *Gnome
[12:00] <soundray> steffi: that's not it. There should be one with /dev/sda1 or similar in it.
[12:00] <ic56> iceman: how many distinct disks are listed?