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| zakame | hi all | 12:29 |
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| juliux | cbx33, morning | 02:07 |
| juliux | cbx33, you send the e-mail about the edubuntu council to me not to the list | 02:08 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 02:08 |
| juliux | ogra, now you know why we need a replayto in the headers | 02:08 |
| ogra | nope | 02:09 |
| ogra | only over my dead corpse | 02:09 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 02:09 |
| juliux | then it should add a replayto | 02:09 |
| ogra | same thing | 02:09 |
| ogra | not RFC compilant | 02:09 |
| jsgotangco | even mailman doesn't recommend such | 02:10 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, can you give me the checkout url for about edubuntu again ? | 02:10 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: can you review first this | 02:10 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/about-edubuntu/C/index.html | 02:10 |
| jsgotangco | that's the html output | 02:10 |
| ogra | oki | 02:10 |
| ogra | hmm, thats great, but isnt it a bit longish ? | 02:11 |
| jsgotangco | no that's not for our firefox page | 02:11 |
| ogra | ah, k | 02:12 |
| jsgotangco | that's for our yelp | 02:12 |
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| ogra | many patches were merged from debian should be its own bulletpoint | 02:13 |
| jsgotangco | meh | 02:14 |
| ogra | hmm, and i think i should give you a paragraph about "the classroom server" | 02:15 |
| ogra | (to put below "the difference" and "the desktop") | 02:15 |
| ogra | the rest is very good :) i'm impressed !" | 02:16 |
| ogra | -" | 02:16 |
| jsgotangco | do you want to add those from the old release? | 02:16 |
| ogra | i'd like a short introduction in ltsp (what is it, what are its advantages) and a short introduction into schooltool | 02:17 |
| ogra | i'll send you something this evening | 02:17 |
| jsgotangco | ok i'll incorporate my old stuff | 02:17 |
| jsgotangco | ahh okay | 02:17 |
| ogra | (have to go to some may 1st activities here) | 02:18 |
| Bluekuja | hi ogra, hi jsgotangco | 02:18 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 02:18 |
| ogra | hey | 02:18 |
| jsgotangco | i'll upload the firefox page tonight | 02:18 |
| ogra | thanks | 02:18 |
| Bluekuja | oliver have you seen the edubuntu advocacy manifesto? | 02:18 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, does it have a link to the local schooltool install ? | 02:18 |
| ogra | http://localhost:7080 i think | 02:18 |
| jsgotangco | no can you give me the default link? | 02:18 |
| jsgotangco | but i'll have to put a disclaier it'll only work on ltsp installs | 02:19 |
| ogra | (i dont have the machine with the edubuntu install with me (i'm 400km away from my office, its not moved to rthe new house yet)) | 02:19 |
| ogra | yep | 02:19 |
| ogra | it's only in the default (classroom server) instrall | 02:20 |
| jsgotangco | ok i'll wait for your email too | 02:20 |
| jsgotangco | i | 02:20 |
| jsgotangco | i'll add some more | 02:20 |
| Bluekuja | ogra: check this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy | 02:20 |
| Bluekuja | it's a great work that me and cbx33 are developing | 02:21 |
| ogra | yep | 02:23 |
| Bluekuja | what do you think about it? and do you suggest something more? | 02:23 |
| ogra | its great, sorry, but i have to get ready to leave now, i bookmarked it and will read it later ... | 02:24 |
| Bluekuja | okie :) | 02:24 |
| Bluekuja | oliver see you later then | 02:24 |
| ogra | (would be cool if we could ship the scribus pages at the bottom as example content, sadly the CD space doesnt permit that) | 02:24 |
| Bluekuja | yep | 02:25 |
| Bluekuja | it would be really nice | 02:25 |
| ogra | we should probably have a wikipage with such content we can point to from the about doc or from the default homepage | 02:25 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 02:25 |
| Bluekuja | yep exactly | 02:25 |
| Bluekuja | ogra: will you be available tomorrow for the cc meeting? | 02:26 |
| ogra | sure | 02:26 |
| Bluekuja | okie great ;) | 02:26 |
| ogra | but we'll also hold our own EC meeting on wednesday | 02:26 |
| cbx33 | juliux, sorry just hit reply | 02:27 |
| juliux | cbx33, no problem, i also send my e-mail not to the list | 02:27 |
| cbx33 | ogra, so EC meeting is wednesday? | 02:28 |
| ogra | use the "reply to list" function of your mailprogram | 02:28 |
| cbx33 | I did it in haste | 02:28 |
| Bluekuja | hi pete | 02:28 |
| cbx33 | hi Bluekuja | 02:28 |
| Bluekuja | ;) | 02:28 |
| ogra | cbx33, we said the first meeting in every month should be a EC meeting | 02:28 |
| juliux | hm i have no reply to list button in evolution | 02:28 |
| cbx33 | ahhh nice | 02:28 |
| ogra | juliux, ctrl-L | 02:28 |
| Bluekuja | so the wednesday one will be an ec meeting | 02:28 |
| Bluekuja | the time | 02:28 |
| ogra | (dunno where in the menu it is, i never used it from there) | 02:29 |
| juliux | ogra, thxs | 02:29 |
| Bluekuja | ogra: the time is confirmed for 12:00 UCT ? | 02:29 |
| cbx33 | that's good for me :D | 02:29 |
| Bluekuja | i was looking in fridge ecents | 02:29 |
| Bluekuja | *events | 02:29 |
| cbx33 | right I gotta dash out | 02:29 |
| cbx33 | be back later on | 02:30 |
| Bluekuja | okie | 02:30 |
| Bluekuja | ciao pete | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | Bluekuja, we'll have a chat about the doc a little later if you'll be here | 02:30 |
| ogra | Bluekuja, we wanted to move it to the evening (20:00 UTC) but there was no confirmation from JaneW yet, so i fear we'll have to stick with 12:00 UTC for thie time | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | ogra, you gonnabe around later? | 02:30 |
| Bluekuja | ok ogra great | 02:30 |
| ogra | s/thie/this/ | 02:30 |
| Bluekuja | i'll be there | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | ogra, our guinea pig didn;t make it :( | 02:30 |
| ogra | cbx33, later in the evening, yes | 02:31 |
| ogra | OH no :( | 02:31 |
| cbx33 | yeh, infected womb | 02:31 |
| cbx33 | she just never got over the operation | 02:31 |
| cbx33 | bbl | 02:31 |
| ogra | my condolence :/ | 02:31 |
| ogra | also to your wife | 02:31 |
| Bluekuja | i have to go | 02:32 |
| Bluekuja | cya to all | 02:32 |
| Bluekuja | ill be available later | 02:32 |
| Bluekuja | for the doc | 02:32 |
| Bluekuja | ;) | 02:32 |
| cbx33 | ogra, had a great idea | 02:38 |
| cbx33 | what if I could do the scribus pages in html format | 02:38 |
| cbx33 | :p | 02:38 |
| cbx33 | that be more useful to you? | 02:39 |
| jsgotangco | how would it look if you print it? | 02:41 |
| lucasvo | cbx33: maybe pdf/ps would be better for printing | 02:41 |
| jsgotangco | (compared to a more predictive pdf output) | 02:41 |
| cbx33 | well ogra was talking about inc;usion into th cd | 02:53 |
| cbx33 | and howc scribus would be too big | 02:54 |
| cbx33 | so i offered an alternative | 02:54 |
| cbx33 | ;p | 02:54 |
| cbx33 | bbl | 02:54 |
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| jsgotangco | highvoltage: ping? | 03:18 |
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| highvoltage | jsgotangco: pong | 04:12 |
| jsgotangco | hmm i fixed it already nevermind :) | 04:12 |
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| zakame | hi all! =) | 04:21 |
| pygi | hi zakame | 04:22 |
| zakame | hi pygi! | 04:23 |
| highvoltage | hi zakame | 04:23 |
| zakame | hello highvoltage! :D | 04:23 |
| highvoltage | :) | 04:23 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: i was about to ask about the plone css for proto, but i managed to make my own | 04:24 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: plone!? | 04:25 |
| pygi | o highvoltage is alive =P | 04:25 |
| highvoltage | pygi: barely | 04:26 |
| jsgotangco | well i thought it came from plone (most of the sites used the plone css) | 04:26 |
| zakame | ogra: around? =) | 04:27 |
| pygi | highvoltage: what happened this time? =P | 04:27 |
| highvoltage | pygi: hehe. just came from gym and discovered how unfit i've become the past few weeks :) | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | bah | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | thats one thing i should do too | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | actually there's a gym just in front of my house | 04:29 |
| pygi | highvoltage: bah =P you should be writing chapters | 04:29 |
| zakame | lol | 04:29 |
| highvoltage | pygi: you have no idea! | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | its not even a fitness gym | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | but a boxing gym | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 04:29 |
| pygi | highvoltage: no worries | 04:29 |
| highvoltage | pygi: i have a chapter that has to be in for the tuxlab cookbook too, tomorrow is first review | 04:29 |
| highvoltage | pygi: i haven't even touched that today, and i'm only about half way through | 04:30 |
| jsgotangco | the one in proto is pretty good too for starters | 04:30 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: boxing sounds like more fun than other excercise | 04:30 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: yeah, and i promised ogra too that that would be finished by the end of this weekend :) | 04:30 |
| highvoltage | (sorry if that sentence didn't make sense) | 04:31 |
| pygi | highvoltage: well, will you be able to provide all the chapters by May,10th? | 04:39 |
| highvoltage | pygi: i feel confident that i can. | 04:40 |
| pygi | highvoltage: nice | 04:40 |
| highvoltage | 04:41 | |
| jsgotangco | what characters are those? | 04:42 |
| jsgotangco | alt gr + ? | 04:42 |
| pygi | code table 4k and something | 04:42 |
| pygi | there are like 10 of them | 04:43 |
| pygi | there is* | 04:43 |
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| linuxboy | hi | 05:03 |
| linuxboy | I'm trying out LTSP in dapper | 05:03 |
| Yagisan | that character looks like the japanese katakana for "shi" | 05:03 |
| linuxboy | apparently audio should work on the clients PC | 05:03 |
| linuxboy | but it doesn't | 05:03 |
| linuxboy | any idea why? | 05:03 |
| Petaris | linuxboy: nasd or esd running? | 05:03 |
| pygi | Yagisan: hehe | 05:04 |
| Petaris | client audio turned on and configured in lts.conf | 05:04 |
| linuxboy | Petaris: nope. Must i? and howto? | 05:04 |
| linuxboy | Petaris: where is lts.conf? | 05:04 |
| Petaris | linuxboy: yoiu only need to have one of those running if you want audio | 05:05 |
| Petaris | slocate lts.conf | 05:05 |
| linuxboy | Petaris: in the chroot? | 05:05 |
| Petaris | the lts.conf is | 05:05 |
| linuxboy | adrian@turtle:/opt/ltsp/i386$ slocate lts.conf | 05:05 |
| linuxboy | /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts.conf | 05:05 |
| linuxboy | adrian@turtle:/opt/ltsp/i386$ | 05:05 |
| Petaris | hrm | 05:05 |
| Petaris | not sure why its in examples | 05:06 |
| Petaris | but thats the file | 05:06 |
| pygi | well, example configuration? | 05:06 |
| linuxboy | because there is obviously an example file :P where must I put it? | 05:06 |
| Petaris | I don't recall | 05:06 |
| Petaris | and my server isn't back running yet | 05:07 |
| linuxboy | is there a howto? | 05:07 |
| pygi | linuxboy: not yet I am afraid :-/ | 05:07 |
| linuxboy | pygi: can you help me? | 05:08 |
| linuxboy | this ltsp seems very hacked into ubuntu | 05:09 |
| pygi | nah, it's just new | 05:10 |
| pygi | and it doesn't have docs | 05:10 |
| pygi | it will have soon tho | 05:10 |
| linuxboy | new? | 05:10 |
| linuxboy | its been in there for 2 releases | 05:10 |
| pygi | this particular one wasn't :-P | 05:10 |
| linuxboy | its upgraded | 05:11 |
| linuxboy | its the same thing but newer | 05:11 |
| pygi | ok, those two things just can't go together =P | 05:11 |
| linuxboy | what two thing? | 05:11 |
| pygi | same thing = newer thing | 05:11 |
| pygi | nah :-/ | 05:11 |
| linuxboy | how do I turn client audio on? | 05:12 |
| linuxboy | what parameters? | 05:12 |
| highvoltage | linuxboy: in lts.conf, you need to add a [default] section, and under that you need to add SOUND=True | 05:17 |
| highvoltage | linuxboy: btw, this is only the second ubuntu ltsp release, and is already less hacky than any other LTSP implementation under linux. | 05:18 |
| linuxboy | highvoltage: you didn't say that lts.conf must be in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc | 05:18 |
| linuxboy | but thanks, I figured it out | 05:18 |
| linuxboy | oh man | 05:19 |
| linuxboy | you can't control sound levels | 05:19 |
| linuxboy | but it works | 05:19 |
| highvoltage | strange, i can control sound levels on mine. | 05:20 |
| linuxboy | I can't | 05:20 |
| highvoltage | linuxboy: file a bug :) | 05:20 |
| linuxboy | nah | 05:20 |
| linuxboy | I found too many ;) | 05:20 |
| linuxboy | I'll give it time | 05:20 |
| linuxboy | you got local devices to work? | 05:21 |
| highvoltage | nope, that's for edgy. | 05:21 |
| linuxboy | oh, it got Deferred, didn't see that | 05:22 |
| linuxboy | gah. then I can't use it at work | 05:22 |
| Yagisan | pygi: I know looks like a nice smiling face, but "shi" is the japanese word for death | 05:23 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: you need local devices that bad ? | 05:23 |
| linuxboy | Yagisan: its for an office | 05:23 |
| pygi | Yagisan: bah | 05:23 |
| linuxboy | Yagisan: I can't have tht users running to me because they can't copy music from their flash disks | 05:24 |
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| Yagisan | linuxboy: yeah, I also use mine in an office. I mandated no bloody local devices. | 05:24 |
| linuxboy | so, I've installed firefox in my chroot | 05:25 |
| linuxboy | how do I "expose" it as a local app ? | 05:26 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: I consider it a security risk at work, hence my hard attitude. | 05:26 |
| linuxboy | I don't | 05:26 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: I deal with other peoples sensitive data. Different priorities for us then. | 05:27 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: what do you mean as a local app ? | 05:27 |
| linuxboy | we do the same | 05:27 |
| linuxboy | but we keep our bussiness and office seperate | 05:27 |
| linuxboy | Yagisan: to run on the thin client | 05:28 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: why ? do you gain a benefit that outweighs running it on the ltsp server ? | 05:28 |
| linuxboy | Yagisan: lets say all my thin clients are P4 2.4 with 512MB ram. | 05:29 |
| linuxboy | I want to run firefox and OOo on the thin client | 05:29 |
| linuxboy | so they don't choke up the server | 05:29 |
| Petaris | Is there any easy way to get xfce and its goodies installed? | 05:30 |
| Yagisan | I see. I don't have issues with either on my server myself. brb - need to check my kids | 05:30 |
| linuxboy | Petaris: apt-get install xubuntu? | 05:30 |
| linuxboy | Yagisan: we haven't got a thin client setup. But we want to do this type of thing. Its for a bigger project | 05:31 |
| Petaris | linuxboy: is xubuntu a virtual package or something? | 05:31 |
| linuxboy | Petaris: i think so. I've never done it | 05:32 |
| linuxboy | Petaris: what does it depend on? | 05:32 |
| highvoltage | linuxboy: you can't press a button to 'expose' it yet, as i told you this morning, that's a feature for edgy | 05:32 |
| highvoltage | Petaris: the xfce virtual package is xubuntu-desktop | 05:32 |
| linuxboy | highvoltage: what? | 05:32 |
| highvoltage | 17:25 < linuxboy> how do I "expose" it as a local app ? | 05:33 |
| linuxboy | highvoltage: i know. I'm not looking for a button | 05:33 |
| linuxboy | highvoltage: I'm trying to see if there is a quick 'n' easy way to hack it | 05:33 |
| linuxboy | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LocalAppFirefox | 05:33 |
| linuxboy | ^^^ | 05:33 |
| linuxboy | there is some hack job | 05:33 |
| Petaris | highvoltage: cool | 05:33 |
| highvoltage | linuxboy: that's for the old-style ltsp though | 05:35 |
| linuxboy | aaah | 05:35 |
| highvoltage | linuxboy: there's currently two kinds of ltsp's | 05:37 |
| highvoltage | linuxboy: the traditional, and meukow | 05:37 |
| linuxboy | ok | 05:37 |
| highvoltage | initially, the ltsp chroot was a complete red had system. | 05:37 |
| highvoltage | *red hat | 05:37 |
| linuxboy | which is ubuntu using? | 05:37 |
| highvoltage | then later they wrote the entire chroot from scratch | 05:37 |
| highvoltage | and used what's called the ltsp build environment, which adds lots of development overhead. | 05:38 |
| highvoltage | ubuntu is using meukow | 05:38 |
| highvoltage | meukow is a move to get away from the old-style LTSP | 05:38 |
| highvoltage | all the distro's are slowly moving to it | 05:38 |
| Yagisan | meukow is a much better system | 05:38 |
| Petaris | What is meukow? | 05:38 |
| highvoltage | so meukow LTSP uses the distro's own packages, not some weird tarball or hacked together system. | 05:38 |
| linuxboy | makes sense | 05:39 |
| Petaris | hrm | 05:39 |
| highvoltage | meukow also uses more standard stuff, and moves away from things like ltspfs to things like dbus and friends. | 05:39 |
| highvoltage | Petaris: new generation ltsp | 05:39 |
| Petaris | ahh | 05:39 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: I've been commercially running it for about 9 months. no issues unlike old-style | 05:39 |
| highvoltage | meukow's design also makes *installing* local apps easier. although running them in an easy and secure way isn't implemented yet. | 05:39 |
| linuxboy | Yagisan: ok. We are going to build a system where the chroot gets pulled out a svn repo. | 05:40 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: why ? it is very easy to recreate the chroot as needed. | 05:42 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: use an apt-cacher or similar system, and you don't even need to waste bandwidth re-downloading the .debs | 05:42 |
| linuxboy | Yagisan: don't worry. The project is bigger then just that. | 05:44 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: in my personal experience, the only apps I may find a benefit in moving to local apps are long lived cpu-intensive apps, eg encoding, mass encryption/decryption | 05:47 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: in anycase, if you install now, it will be a smooth upgrade to the next relase | 05:48 |
| linuxboy | lived cpu-intensive apps | 05:48 |
| linuxboy | firefox | 05:48 |
| linuxboy | openoffice | 05:48 |
| linuxboy | they both fit that | 05:48 |
| linuxboy | the bloated pigs | 05:48 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: firefox is not a cpu-intensive app | 05:48 |
| linuxboy | Yagisan: you seen it lately | 05:48 |
| linuxboy | Yagisan: its not lightweight anymore | 05:48 |
| Yagisan | neither is OOo. memory intensive yes, but not cpu intensive | 05:48 |
| linuxboy | ok sure | 05:49 |
| linuxboy | but firefox is really that bad | 05:49 |
| linuxboy | lately is been loving my CPU | 05:49 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: I think you'l find it is that flash plugin, not firefox | 05:49 |
| linuxboy | it is. but still... firefox doesn't seem to handle it nicely | 05:50 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: my firefox (without flash), and 2 users atm is using 1.3% cpu. flash, and sun java plugins are the cpu hogs. we can't do much about flash and java - that is macromedia and sun's problem. | 05:52 |
| linuxboy | isn't that where gplflash (or what ever the new projects name is) will come in? | 05:58 |
| highvoltage | gnu gnash isn't packaged yet. | 05:58 |
| Yagisan | linuxboy: perhaps, I expect it will be in edgy | 05:59 |
| highvoltage | probably in the future, yes. (we hope :) ) | 05:59 |
| linuxboy | highvoltage: is thats whats its called? | 05:59 |
| highvoltage | linuxboy: yep | 05:59 |
| linuxboy | I thought it was still aplha | 05:59 |
| highvoltage | http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ | 05:59 |
| linuxboy | heck, if its usable, I'll use it and package it | 05:59 |
| highvoltage | it's pre-alpha | 06:00 |
| highvoltage | it's usable, and better than the free-flash player | 06:00 |
| linuxboy | how does it compare to the official flash player? | 06:00 |
| highvoltage | it's not 100% implemented yet. | 06:01 |
| linuxboy | *sigh* i think I'll leave it for now | 06:01 |
| highvoltage | non-interactive stuff is mostly Ok, but when it gets interactive, it's not fuly implemented yet. | 06:01 |
| === Yagisan still doesn't want to install something just to see adverts on the internet. | ||
| highvoltage | Yagisan: hehe. PRIVOXY! | 06:01 |
| highvoltage | and firefox flash-add blocker :) | 06:02 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: privoxy is nice, but putting the server on amd64 worked quicker ;) | 06:02 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: there was a reason I wrote that 64bit server with 32bit clients patch for ltsp (which in now in dapper) | 06:03 |
| highvoltage | Yagisan: dapper now support full multiarch. you can even have ppc hosted on amd64 or i386. or is that your work too? | 06:04 |
| === highvoltage thought that was ogra | ||
| Yagisan | highvoltage: initial work by me, but I never got the ppc stuff done because I don't have ppc, so I believe ogra finished it off | 06:05 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: I don't actually see full multiarch in the source | 06:07 |
| highvoltage | Yagisan: how did your multiarch work? i think ogra's one works the same no matter which arch you use. there's a wiki page too for it somewhere... | 06:09 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: see the --arch i386 or --arch powerpc commands on the ltsp-build-client script. Thats my work. IIRC either ogra or mdz changed the commands to --arch xxx, while my original patch was --i386 or --powerpc | 06:15 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: when qemu is in a workable state, I'll try again to add powerpc clients to amd64 or i386 servers | 06:16 |
| Bluekuja | hi yagisan | 06:17 |
| Bluekuja | hi highvoltage | 06:17 |
| Yagisan | G'day Bluekuja | 06:17 |
| Bluekuja | guys someone knows what Gnome-Partitionierungsmanager is? | 06:17 |
| Bluekuja | i'm checking lp bugs | 06:18 |
| Bluekuja | i think that he means gparted | 06:18 |
| Bluekuja | jon, yagisan suggestions? | 06:19 |
| highvoltage | hi Bluekuja | 06:19 |
| Bluekuja | hi jon :) | 06:19 |
| highvoltage | Bluekuja: i have no idea | 06:19 |
| Bluekuja | do you know what Gnome-Partitionierungsmanager is? | 06:19 |
| Bluekuja | oh okie | 06:19 |
| Bluekuja | ok then | 06:20 |
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| === Topic for #edubuntu: Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu, download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Mailing List http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org | Website http://www.edubuntu.org | MEETING: every wednesday at 12:00 UTC | Read before installing: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes | Dapper beta is out http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dapper/ | ||
| === Topic (#edubuntu): set by juliux at Sat Apr 22 16:31:52 2006 | ||
| (Bluekuja/#edubuntu) yep | 06:22 | |
| (Bluekuja/#edubuntu) its german | 06:22 | |
| (Bluekuja/#edubuntu) so its for sure gparted | 06:22 | |
| (Yagisan/#edubuntu) Bluekuja: probably, I only speak English, and a bit of . | 06:23 | |
| (Bluekuja/#edubuntu) heehhe | 06:23 | |
| Bluekuja | when i will find some strange japanase words i'll ask to you | 06:24 |
| Bluekuja | ^^ | 06:24 |
| Yagisan | Bluekuja: my total german is "gutten tag" which I think is hello | 06:24 |
| Bluekuja | lol | 06:25 |
| Yagisan | Bluekuja: I hope I'll understand them then. My Japanese is awful | 06:25 |
| Bluekuja | ok, i'll teach you some italian | 06:25 |
| Bluekuja | so you will speak 3 languages | 06:25 |
| Bluekuja | ^^ | 06:25 |
| Yagisan | Bluekuja: cool. I picked up a bit of italian watching "Inspector Montelbano" on SBS. Actually, that was rather good. IIRC you answer the phone with "pronto" | 06:28 |
| Bluekuja | ahha | 06:28 |
| Bluekuja | really nice man | 06:28 |
| highvoltage | pronto here means "i want it done yesterday!" | 06:28 |
| Bluekuja | lol | 06:29 |
| Bluekuja | nice | 06:29 |
| === lucasvo speaks english, german, french, italian and latin | ||
| Yagisan | highvoltage: don't you mean last week ;) | 06:29 |
| lucasvo | :) | 06:29 |
| highvoltage | Yagisan: something like that :p | 06:29 |
| Bluekuja | nice lucasvo | 06:29 |
| Bluekuja | i know latin too | 06:29 |
| Bluekuja | ^^ | 06:29 |
| Yagisan | lucasvo: latin ? isn't that a dead language | 06:29 |
| Bluekuja | yep it is | 06:29 |
| Bluekuja | what do you know of italian lucasvo? | 06:30 |
| lucasvo | Yagisan: yes, I had to learn it in school | 06:30 |
| Yagisan | so, how do you know if you pronounce it correctly | 06:30 |
| === Yagisan managed to get out of doing latin at school | ||
| === juliux als lerned latin at school | ||
| lucasvo | Bluekuja: ohhh, I hate it, Non mi piace, il Italiano. Preferisco l'Inghlese | 06:30 |
| Bluekuja | haha | 06:30 |
| Bluekuja | nice | 06:30 |
| lucasvo | oh, it should say l'Italiano | 06:31 |
| Bluekuja | yep | 06:31 |
| Bluekuja | and if i ask you di dove sei? | 06:31 |
| Bluekuja | cosa risponderesti? | 06:31 |
| lucasvo | Sono di Zurigo, e tu? | 06:31 |
| lucasvo | or e Lei? | 06:31 |
| Bluekuja | Udine, conosci? | 06:32 |
| lucasvo | No, non conosco, e in Italia? Nord o Sud? | 06:32 |
| Bluekuja | Nord-est vicino a venezia^^ | 06:33 |
| lucasvo | Nel Lombardia? | 06:34 |
| Bluekuja | no^^ ,friul-venezia-giulia | 06:35 |
| Bluekuja | *friuli | 06:35 |
| Bluekuja | venezia in veneto | 06:35 |
| lucasvo | non lo conosco | 06:35 |
| Bluekuja | spero tu conosca venezia no? | 06:35 |
| lucasvo | si lo conosco | 06:35 |
| Bluekuja | okie bene direi | 06:35 |
| Bluekuja | remember to put si la conosco | 06:36 |
| Bluekuja | not si lo conosco | 06:36 |
| Bluekuja | ;) | 06:36 |
| Yagisan | finally, the kids are asleep. Time to go spend some time with the woman that vaguely looks like my wife | 06:36 |
| Bluekuja | lol | 06:37 |
| lucasvo | VeneziA, not VeneziO | 06:37 |
| Bluekuja | good evening then | 06:37 |
| highvoltage | Yagisan: won't your wife be angry if you spend time with the one that almost looks like her? | 06:37 |
| Yagisan | Bluekuja: evening ? it's almost 3am | 06:37 |
| Bluekuja | yep lucasvo | 06:37 |
| Bluekuja | lol | 06:37 |
| Bluekuja | i was talking in italian time | 06:37 |
| Bluekuja | hehehe | 06:37 |
| lucasvo | italian time? | 06:38 |
| Bluekuja | yep | 06:38 |
| lucasvo | aha, yeah, GMT+2 | 06:38 |
| Bluekuja | GMT+1 | 06:38 |
| Bluekuja | its gmt+1 | 06:38 |
| lucasvo | well we have daylight savings | 06:38 |
| Yagisan | highvoltage: only if she remembers what I look like | 06:38 |
| lucasvo | gmt also has daylight savings? | 06:38 |
| lucasvo | or is it UTC without daylightsavings? | 06:39 |
| Bluekuja | mmm | 06:39 |
| Bluekuja | yes also in gmt there are | 06:40 |
| lucasvo | ok | 06:40 |
| lucasvo | so it's gmt+1 | 06:40 |
| Bluekuja | yep | 06:40 |
| Bluekuja | its 18:40 here | 06:41 |
| Bluekuja | same for highvoltage | 06:41 |
| Bluekuja | gmt+2 is for places like Athens,Bucarest, Cairo etc | 06:42 |
| linuxboy | and south africa | 06:43 |
| linuxboy | well, thats where highvoltage is | 06:44 |
| Bluekuja | yep | 06:44 |
| Bluekuja | linuxboy: is the second time that i see you here, are you involved in some projects? | 06:45 |
| linuxboy | Bluekuja: I'm your average linux guy | 06:46 |
| linuxboy | Bluekuja: I use ubuntu and I work at an ISP | 06:46 |
| Bluekuja | really nice | 06:46 |
| linuxboy | Bluekuja: you? | 06:46 |
| Bluekuja | https://launchpad.net/people/bluekuja | 06:47 |
| linuxboy | Bluekuja: I assume you're an ltsp guy? | 06:47 |
| Bluekuja | linuxboy: just check that page :) | 06:48 |
| linuxboy | Bluekuja: just did. | 06:49 |
| Bluekuja | ;) | 06:49 |
| Bluekuja | linuxboy, you're involved in some ubuntu projects? | 06:52 |
| linuxboy | nope | 06:53 |
| Bluekuja | oh okie | 06:53 |
| linuxboy | i should be | 06:55 |
| linuxboy | but I do a little of this and a little of that | 06:55 |
| Bluekuja | every help is appreciated | 06:55 |
| Bluekuja | :) | 06:55 |
| Bluekuja | so if you have in a day only 10 minutes free and you work for ubuntu in that time,it's a great thing | 06:57 |
| Bluekuja | everyone do how much he can | 06:58 |
| linuxboy | yeah | 06:59 |
| linuxboy | my current intrest is www.s1mp3.org | 06:59 |
| Bluekuja | nice | 06:59 |
| Bluekuja | :) | 06:59 |
| Bluekuja | brb 10 min | 07:00 |
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| LaserJock | cbx33: you around? | 07:10 |
| cbx33 | yup | 07:13 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, ping :p | 07:14 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: I've got a suggestion for EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy | 07:15 |
| cbx33 | ok want to move to | 07:15 |
| cbx33 | #edubuntu-doc | 07:15 |
| LaserJock | oh, sure | 07:15 |
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| Petaris | hrm | 07:37 |
| Petaris | there is no gtypist package | 07:37 |
| LaserJock | Petaris: it is in the Universe repo | 07:38 |
| Petaris | ahh | 07:39 |
| Petaris | cool | 07:39 |
| Petaris | It works great for teaching typing | 07:39 |
| Petaris | LaserJock: What is the Univers repositories source address? | 07:41 |
| LaserJock | Petaris: what do you mean exactly? | 07:41 |
| Petaris | oh never mind | 07:41 |
| Petaris | there in there just commented out | 07:42 |
| Petaris | is it dapper-security universe or just dapper universe? | 07:42 |
| Petaris | ok, dapper universe I think | 07:44 |
| LaserJock | I think there is a dapper-security for universe but that won't be usefull until dapper has been released | 07:46 |
| Petaris | ok | 07:55 |
| Petaris | I found it | 07:55 |
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| cbx33 | ogra, ping | 08:38 |
| cbx33 | filed new bug | 08:38 |
| cbx33 | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/42434 | 08:38 |
| cbx33 | do specifications have to be for software, could they be for another resource that is needed for ubutnu? | 08:54 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: they can be for non-software suff | 08:56 |
| LaserJock | s/suff/stuff/ | 08:56 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, thankls | 08:57 |
| Petaris | what do I need to do to get ltsp working after install? | 09:04 |
| Petaris | ie net setup, services to start | 09:05 |
| cbx33 | Petaris, do you have an existing DHCP server on your network? | 09:06 |
| Petaris | cbx: yes but the terminals won't be able to see it | 09:07 |
| Petaris | I'm using a two nic setup | 09:07 |
| Petaris | eth1 goes to the main network, eth0 goes to the gbit switches the clients will be on | 09:08 |
| Petaris | er, cbx33: that was meant for you | 09:09 |
| Petaris | cbx33: Is there a doc that tells what all needs to be done to get ltsp working after installation? | 09:14 |
| cbx33 | um... | 09:14 |
| cbx33 | as far as I know, there isn;t much to do... | 09:15 |
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| cbx33 | but I run a 1 nic setup | 09:15 |
| Petaris | ahh | 09:15 |
| cbx33 | Petaris, you have just highlighted there needs to be more docs for this | 09:15 |
| Petaris | cbx33: Somehow I have a hard time beliving I'm the first | 09:15 |
| cbx33 | indeed | 09:15 |
| Petaris | What did you do in your dhcpd.conf file? | 09:16 |
| cbx33 | I didn't | 09:18 |
| cbx33 | :p | 09:18 |
| cbx33 | I have a windows DHCP server | 09:18 |
| cbx33 | I wrtoe the docs for getting it to work with that :p | 09:18 |
| cbx33 | but there are some docs on the wiki | 09:18 |
| cbx33 | search for LTSP | 09:18 |
| Petaris | ok, I'l take a look | 09:18 |
| Petaris | Are you authenticating to AD by any chance? | 09:19 |
| cbx33 | not yet | 09:19 |
| cbx33 | but I'm also working on those docs | 09:19 |
| cbx33 | Petaris, are you running on a windows network | 09:20 |
| cbx33 | I have also put in the docs about runnign a multiboot system | 09:20 |
| cbx33 | so you can choose to use the LTSP or run the windows one off the HDD | 09:20 |
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| Petaris | cbx33: I am currently running a win2k network, I would be interested in having AD do the auth so I don't have to recreate users | 09:21 |
| Petaris | I am planning to switch to Novell OES in the near future | 09:22 |
| cbx33 | ah | 09:23 |
| cbx33 | Petaris, I'm looking to do the same thing very soon | 09:23 |
| cbx33 | I think it's essential if edubuntu is oing to take off | 09:24 |
| lucasvo | I think it is planned for edgy or edgy+1 | 09:24 |
| Petaris | hrm | 09:24 |
| Petaris | my smb share wont mount | 09:24 |
| cbx33 | lucasvo, really? | 09:26 |
| cbx33 | excelent | 09:26 |
| cbx33 | I created a spec for it | 09:27 |
| lucasvo | cbx33: well in general for ubuntu | 09:27 |
| lucasvo | yes | 09:27 |
| lucasvo | cbx33: I think there already is one | 09:27 |
| lucasvo | but don't quote me on that | 09:27 |
| Petaris | /AVALON/E-lab_share /serv/elem smbfs nosuid,nodev,noexec,credentials=/etc/samba/auth.smb,uid=username,gid=username,fmask=666,dmask=777 0 0 | 09:27 |
| Petaris | it cut off the first / but does anyone see a problem with that? | 09:28 |
| Petaris | the /etc/samba/auth.smb files exists and contains the correct info | 09:29 |
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| Petaris | later all | 10:06 |
| Yagisan | !seen hedgemage | 10:07 |
| ubotu | hedgemage <i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 11h 58m 54s ago, saying: 'it'll be up soon, just be patient :)'. | 10:07 |
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| pygi | ogra: ping | 10:29 |
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| cbx33 | ogra, found another few bugs in the live cd | 11:27 |
| pygi | cbx33: I'll call you the bug tracker if you don't oppose | 11:28 |
| cbx33 | no | 11:30 |
| cbx33 | not at all | 11:30 |
| cbx33 | :p | 11:31 |
| pygi | cbx33: ok | 11:31 |
| pygi | on the other hand, I don't think ogra is here right now | 11:31 |
| cbx33 | no doesn't seem that way | 11:31 |
| pygi | whats the bug this time? | 11:31 |
| cbx33 | um two | 11:32 |
| cbx33 | one with ubiquity | 11:32 |
| cbx33 | and the other with khangman | 11:32 |
| pygi | gah :-/ | 11:32 |
| pygi | serious ones? | 11:32 |
| cbx33 | um... | 11:32 |
| cbx33 | khangman won;t run at all | 11:32 |
| cbx33 | on this laptop | 11:33 |
| cbx33 | not sure y | 11:33 |
| pygi | hm, and whats wrong with ubiquity? | 11:33 |
| cbx33 | when you go to set time and then click next it crashes | 11:33 |
| pygi | yes, I know about that one :-/ | 11:34 |
| pygi | also, sometimes it happens with partitioning as well (next --> crash) | 11:34 |
| cbx33 | yes | 11:34 |
| cbx33 | i couldnt find a bug report so i refiled one | 11:34 |
| pygi | cbx33: nice, number? | 11:41 |
| cbx33 | hang onI'll get them | 11:42 |
| cbx33 | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/42434 | 11:43 |
| cbx33 | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/42447 | 11:43 |
| pygi | cbx33: I'll take a look now | 11:44 |
| cbx33 | pygi, ok | 11:45 |
| pygi | I just confirmed bug No.2 | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | thanks | 11:46 |
| pygi | the No.1 seems odd :-/ | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | yes very | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | havn't had time to investigate yet | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | but it definitely doesn't work | 11:47 |
| pygi | cbx33: heh :-/ | 11:48 |
| pygi | I'll try to look into it more tommorow | 11:48 |
| pygi | which is in like 12 minutes =P | 11:48 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 11:48 |
| cbx33 | 1hr 12 mins here | 11:48 |
| pygi | 11:49 | |
| pygi | we should really get rid of all that flies =P | 11:50 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 11:50 |
| pygi | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/42418 | 11:51 |
| pygi | so much bugs :-/ | 11:51 |
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