[12:09] <\sh> ok last try for now .... need to sleep a bit more then last morning :(
[12:10] <Riddell> \sh: yes
[12:10] <\sh> Riddell: but I think it has something to do with unicode to qstring conversion...
[12:11] <\sh> because it crashes when it tries to fill in the language listviewitems
[12:11] <Riddell> I can believe that
[12:12] <\sh> I did now this: take the python unicode string, then temp=choice.decode('utf-8'); tString=QString(temp)...which should work somehow lets see...
[12:12] <\sh> just building the package again :)
[12:13] <\sh> and QListViewItem needs a qstring not a python unicode string ..
[12:13] <\sh> let's see
[12:13] <\sh> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html this guy is so right :)
[06:29] <Hobbsee> hi everyone :)
[06:30] <ajmitch_> hello Hobbsee :)
[08:39] <mornfall> Riddell: ping
[08:39] <mornfall> anyone know if there are some patches in kubuntu relating to janus widget?
[08:39] <mornfall> like on-mouse-over highlight?
[08:40] <mornfall> let's see
[08:41] <mornfall> Riddell: dang
[08:41] <mornfall> Riddell: the januswidget patch that does the highlighting on mouseover crashes adept_installer
[08:42] <freeflying-ibook> mornfall: adept still can not work with scim
[08:42] <mornfall> freeflying-ibook: there was an upstream patch for scim wasn't there?
[08:43] <freeflying-ibook> mornfall: no
[08:43] <mornfall> well, i am more concerned by problems caused by adept code
[08:43] <mornfall> it's a scim problem wrt adept freezing
[08:44] <freeflying-ibook> mornfall: liucougar give a patch for scim, but it has secure problem,also it will let adept works
[08:45] <mornfall> freeflying-ibook: ah, okey then -- is there some chance the patch will be secured and used?
[08:46] <mornfall> i cannot fix adept w/ scim myself, other than have the scim module disabled for adept and someone else would have to do that
[08:46] <freeflying-ibook> mornfall: haven't yet,you know now only adept can not work with scim
[08:46] <mornfall> since i have no idea how that can be done
[08:47] <freeflying-ibook> mornfall: than use a dirty way : export QT_IM_MODULE=xim when start adept
[08:49] <mornfall> freeflying-ibook: yes, but how can i get that into a .desktop file?
[08:49] <mornfall> one could make a wrapper .sh script but that's considerably evil
[08:50] <freeflying-ibook> how about add it to adept to unset QT_IM_MODULE when start 
[08:51] <mornfall> freeflying-ibook: can you try adding setenv( "QT_IM_MODULE=xim" ); to manager/main.cpp and just before QString description = i18n("Adept Manager");
[08:52] <mornfall> freeflying-ibook: and try rebuilding if it helps?
[08:52] <freeflying-ibook> mornfall: I can do it after my vacation, heh
[08:52] <mornfall> freeflying-ibook: and #include <stdlib.h> at start of file with other includes
[08:53] <mornfall> freeflying-ibook: sure
[08:53] <mornfall> freeflying-ibook: or if you know someone else able to reproduce the bug, tell him :)
[08:53] <freeflying-ibook> mornfall: okey
[08:53] <mornfall> freeflying-ibook: i can also try to add it to next release and see what happens, but i cannot test
[08:54] <freeflying-ibook> mornfall: I will test at May,5
[08:54] <mornfall> freeflying-ibook: ah, and s/setenv/putenv/
[08:54] <mornfall> it compiles now :)
[08:55] <freeflying-ibook> mornfall: seems you'd unset it firsdtly
[08:56] <mornfall> freeflying-ibook: http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-xim.patch if you get to test before there is a deb with the fix
[08:56] <mornfall> freeflying-ibook: putenv overwrites the current value, so no need to unsett
[08:56] <mornfall> -t
[09:00] <freeflying-ibook> mornfall: can you build on a ppc? then I can test it :)
[09:01] <mornfall> can't
[09:01] <mornfall> don't have any
[09:01] <freeflying-ibook> :)
[09:02] <mornfall> when someone buys me an ibook i can build on ppc :p
[09:03] <freeflying-ibook> mornfall: heh, http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2006/essay_contest.php
[09:03] <freeflying-ibook> but it only provide intel's
[09:07] <mornfall> and i guess next one will be a core architecture cpu ;-)
[09:07] <mornfall> i hope
[09:17] <imbrandon> who needs what built on ppc? i can build some stuff on mine in a few hours ( btw mornfall if you just need ppc for dev stuff check out pearpc ppc emulator ;0 )
[09:19] <freeflying-ibook> imbrandonuild it for test?: mornfall need build adept with some patch, so would you like b
[09:20] <mornfall> imbrandon: ahem emulator...
[09:20] <mornfall> imbrandon: i have better things to spend my time on than ppc emulator :P
[09:20] <imbrandon> heh well i just ment to build ppc packages ;) but yea i know what you mean
[09:20] <mornfall> if it breaks on ppc someone on ppc can fix it :)
[09:21] <imbrandon> true true
[09:21] <mornfall> or bribe me to fix it
[09:21] <mornfall> ;-)
[09:21] <imbrandon> with a ppc lappy ;)
[09:21] <mornfall> oh, i am usually cheaper than that :)
[09:21] <mornfall> but i wouldn't mind
[09:21] <imbrandon> heh
[09:22] <imbrandon> i bought a few ( 2 ) g3's on ebay that should be here any day JUST for building ppc linux stuff ;)_
[09:22] <imbrandon> got both for less than 50$ hopefully they both work
[09:22] <imbrandon> lol
[09:22] <freeflying-ibook> imbrandon: it's quite cheap :)
[09:23] <mornfall> considering g4 is slow by contemporary measure, i am not too surprized
[09:23] <imbrandon> yea but they are slow machines, like i said just for dev stuff though so it should be ok i think the "fast" one is a 300mhz with 256mb ram
[09:24] <Tonio_> hi guys
[09:24] <imbrandon> 'ello
[09:24] <mornfall> hi Tonio_ 
[09:24] <mornfall> someone has an idea where Riddell is stuck? ;-)
[09:24] <mornfall> (i guess his bed, but still)
[09:24] <Tonio_> mornfall: just noticed there are few icons missing in adept (right clicking, request install etc..)
[09:24] <Tonio_> do you need some or is it already on the way to be added ?
[09:25] <Tonio_> mornfall: probably sleeping ;)
[09:25] <mornfall> let's see
[09:27] <mornfall> Tonio_: part of the icons missing are probably bug
[09:28] <Tonio_> mornfall: ah ? want a launchpad bug report ?
[09:28] <mornfall> there are no purge and reinstall icons at all
[09:28] <mornfall> and the rest should be there it probably just gone awry in the code
[09:29] <Tonio_> ok
[09:29] <Tonio_> mornfall: interested in a purge and reinstall icon ? I can make one
[09:29] <Tonio_> 16x16 I assume ?
[09:31] <Tonio_> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ept/+bug/42318
[09:31] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 42318 in ept "Icons missing in Adept" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  
[09:33] <Tonio_> mornfall: another thing, concerning "add/remove programs"
[09:33] <Tonio_> mornfall: I notice it only displays icons for installed programs, while the gnome tool displays all softwares icons in anycase.
[09:34] <Tonio_> mornfall: maybe that's just your decision and not a bug, but in case I'm asking ;)
[09:37] <mornfall> Tonio_: gnome tool displays all icons for kde apps?
[09:37] <mornfall> Tonio_: because last time i checked they weren't installed so that's why it doesn't work
[09:37] <Tonio_> mornfall: yes, just tested ;)
[09:38] <Tonio_> mornfall: ah no not for kde apps, but globally, you see all softwares' icons, installed or not
[09:38] <Tonio_> the adept component display's icons for installed apps
[09:38] <mornfall> Tonio_: umm?
[09:38] <mornfall> Tonio_: you are confusing me
[09:38] <Tonio_> mornfall: let me show you screenshots :)
[09:38] <mornfall> Tonio_: adept_installer uses same source for icons as gnome-app-install
[09:38] <Tonio_> mornfall: well... I don't know ;)
[09:39] <mornfall> show me and we'll see
[09:39] <Tonio_> mornfall: ahhhhhhh
[09:39] <Tonio_> mornfall: don't mind, that's due to the icoins pack, all gnome icons are there, but not the kde apps
[09:39] <Tonio_> so I assume if I compare the same software category, tha'll be the same
[09:39] <mornfall> Tonio_: exactly what i thought :] 
[09:39] <Tonio_> mornfall: no need to compare, I was wrong
[09:40] <mornfall> that's a known problem, bug Riddell to bug mvo to include the icons
[09:40] <Tonio_> mornfall: sure
[10:18] <mornfall> Tonio_: icons are bac
[10:18] <mornfall> back*
[10:19] <mornfall> Tonio_: however thhe purge/reinstall ones are still missing
[10:23] <Tonio_> mornfall: what size do you need ?
[10:23] <mornfall> menu icons
[10:23] <Tonio_> so 22
[10:23] <mornfall> they aren't anywhere else than in that context menu
[10:24] <Tonio_> okay are the other icons in the sources ?
[10:24] <Tonio_> I will take them as an example and make you 2 little icons today :)
[10:25] <mornfall> yes, other icons are in source
[10:26] <Tonio_> mornfall: nice, so you may get the missing icons today (hopefully)
[10:27] <mornfall> Tonio_: i would think that adept_update icon (the 2 arrows around) could be used for reinstall too
[10:27] <mornfall> Tonio_: maybe in blue colour?
[10:27] <Tonio_> mornfall: I was thinking about something like a loop
[10:27] <Tonio_> circle or something...
[10:27] <mornfall> yeah, adept_update is a loop :)
[10:27] <Tonio_> concerning the purgin, I may use the remove one, but with red colors
[10:28] <Tonio_> that would be quite explicit
[10:28] <mornfall> remove is already red
[10:28] <Tonio_> hu ? I have green here......
[10:28] <mornfall> oh it isn't
[10:28] <mornfall> good, good
[10:28] <Tonio_> mornfall: svn acces plz ? that would help maybe ;)
[10:28] <mornfall> Tonio_: hmm?
[10:28] <mornfall> what's with svn access? :)
[10:28] <mornfall> it's on svn.kde.org, if you have account you can commit
[10:29] <Tonio_> getting latest sources to be sure I have the good icons here, unless you confirm there hasn't been any change concerning colors recently
[10:29] <mornfall> i didn't change icons since 1.0 i think
[10:30] <mornfall> the dapper icons are the most recent you can get
[10:31] <Tonio_> mornfall: perfect
[10:31] <mornfall> otherwise svn+ssh:/svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/playground/sysadmin/ept
[10:31] <mornfall> when you need something in svn
[10:32] <jeroenvrp2> someone using non-english?
[10:33] <jeroenvrp2> is do, please check if this bug is also on your system: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kde-i18n-nl/+bug/42323
[10:33] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 42323 in kde-i18n-nl "Menu's are mixed Dutch/English" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  
[10:34] <kmon> Hi.
[10:34] <kmon> does the new installer support LVM?
[10:37] <kmon> I've added to the google soc 2006 suggestions
[10:39] <\sh> Riddell: ok..I tried some pieces of code to solve the problem...looks like, that I really need to reproduce it with an easier piece of source
[10:50] <pradeepto> guys the partition table on my laptop got hosed due to beta 1
[10:50] <Tonio_> jeroenvrp2: known problem, I confirmed your bug, since same with french here
[10:50] <pradeepto> Riddell: told me to do gpart -W /dev/hda /dev/hda to fix it.
[10:50] <kmon> pradeepto: known problem, try beta2
[10:50] <jeroenvrp2> Tonio_: ah great
[10:50] <jeroenvrp2> good to now
[10:51] <pradeepto> unfortunately I cant because I dont have net connection to do a apt-get gpart
[10:51] <pradeepto> kmon: I know but I have data and want to fix it if possible.
[10:51] <pradeepto> neither do I have a usb stick or cross cable to get the debs
[10:52] <pradeepto> any other solutions?
[10:52] <kmon> pradeepto: maybe you can boot with the live cd and installed there gpart
[10:52] <caleb-> freeflying-ibook: gcin 1.1.9 has been released. I have uploaded it to REVU. :-)
[10:52] <kmon> s/installed/install
[10:52] <pradeepto> kmon: how will install gpart
[10:52] <freeflying-ibook> caleb-: okey
[10:53] <pradeepto> I said I have no access to the net on the machine
[10:53] <pradeepto> and I dont have a usb stick or cross cable
[10:53] <kmon> pradeepto: ok, sorry
[10:53] <pradeepto> no problemi
[10:53] <freeflying-ibook> caleb-: is gcin in dapper avaliable?
[10:53] <pradeepto> can fdisk solve this problem?
[10:53] <kmon> pradeepto: dunno
[10:54] <pradeepto> fdisk/cfdisk?
[10:54] <caleb-> freeflying-ibook: seems not...
[10:55] <kmon> pradeepto: I'm afraid I don't know how to help you
[10:57] <pradeepto> kmon: its alright
[11:09] <Tonio_> mornfall: new icons over
[11:09] <Tonio_> mornfall: mornfallhttp://www.planetemu.net/temp/new_icons.tar.gz
[11:10] <Tonio_> http://www.planetemu.net/temp/new_icons.tar.gz
[11:10] <Tonio_> sorry ;)
[11:10] <Tonio_> mornfall: so I added red for purging, and concerning reinstall, I based on the update one, but horizontal mirror to revert the loop, and converted to blue
[11:10] <Tonio_> mornfall: I hope it is what you want ;)
[11:11] <\sh> Riddell: which function calls set_language_choices , looks like that it's a callback somehow
[11:11] <Tonio_> \sh: yop
[11:11] <\sh> found it :)
[11:12] <\sh> components/language.py
[11:12] <pef> hello, someone familiar with ubiquity ?
[11:12] <Tonio_> pef: not myself, why ?
[11:13] <\sh> in what way? 
[11:14] <pef> I'm having a crash a the partition step, I have an extra radiobutton without label, which leads to a crash when selected
[11:14] <pef> in kde-ui.py there are a lot of print "" for debugging purposes I think, but I can't see them on my konsole, why ?
[11:14] <pef> have I to set ffo_DEBUG=yes somewhere ? :] 
[11:14] <pef> s/ffo/foo/
[11:17] <\sh> pef: x86 or amd64?
[11:17] <pef> \sh: x86
[11:17] <pef> but I think it's plateform independant, certainly a bug in partitions/disk detection
[11:21] <pef> ok, found :)
[11:47] <\sh> Riddell: fixed :)
[11:58] <\sh> Riddell: http://linux.blogweb.de/uploads/ubiquity-language-selection.png this is what you want, right?
[11:58] <uniq> good boy \sh :)
[11:58] <\sh> well..it wasn't an unicode problem :)
[11:59] <uniq> ok, anyway the article you posted a url to last night was rather good.
[11:59] <\sh> not in the first place
[11:59] <\sh> uniq: yeah, this guy is absolutley right :) 
[12:00] <uniq> no doubt.
[12:00] <uniq> and the same goest for mime-types on webservers.
[12:01] <\sh> yepp
[12:01] <uniq> "Hey, lets just use text/plain for everything guys"
[12:46] <\sh> Riddell: you have mail, I'm out for the afternoon now, let
[12:46] <\sh> 's talk about the crash later this day :)
[12:50] <\sh> and gone :)
[12:53] <Tonio_> Florob: I sent the patch to Riddell for inclusion in kdebase, should be okay this time ;)
[12:54] <Florob> great, btw somebody else just noticed it wasn't in ;) (see bug report)
[01:03] <jpatrick> Riddell: result: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2316
[01:46] <Riddell> jpatrick: excellent
[01:46] <Riddell> Tonio_: which patch?
[01:47] <seaLne> Riddell: a while ago you said you had been asked about translating your behindubuntu.org interview, was it freeflying-ibook or someone else?
[01:48] <Riddell> seaLne: freeflying-ibook did a translation
[01:48] <seaLne> yeah
[01:50] <jpatrick> seaLne: http://kubuntu-es.org/?q=node/3
[01:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: gtk-qt-engine non configuring with gnome or xfce
[01:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: it "was" in but isn't
[01:50] <Tonio_> so I resent you the patch for inclusion by email
[01:50] <seaLne> nice to see i wasn't told about the es translation
[01:50] <Riddell> oh yes, jpatrick did it too
[01:53] <Tonio_> Riddell: no idae what happened, but no need to investigate I think ;)
[02:03] <jpatrick> Tonio_: can you look at the above revu link?
[02:03] <Tonio_> mornfall: ping ?
[02:03] <Tonio_> jpatrick: revu this ?
[02:03] <Tonio_> or the kubuntu-es one ?
[02:03] <jpatrick> the revu one
[02:03] <Tonio_> revu okay, sorry ;)
[02:04] <jpatrick> I just turned kubuntu-es off ;)
[02:05] <Tonio_> jpatrick: revuing
[02:11] <Tonio_> jpatrick: advocated
[02:11] <Tonio_> fine with me
[02:11] <jpatrick> woohoo
[02:11] <mornfall> Tonio_: pong
[02:11] <Tonio_> simple package though so it went quick
[02:11] <Tonio_> mornfall: got the icons ?
[02:12] <jpatrick> now i wonder if Riddell accepted it...
[02:12] <mornfall> Tonio_: where where
[02:12] <Riddell> mornfall: hi
[02:12] <Riddell> jpatrick: what?
[02:12] <mornfall> hi Riddell 
[02:12] <jpatrick> kexi-mdb-driver
[02:12] <Tonio_> mornfall: http://www.planetemu.net/temp/new_icons.tar.gz
[02:13] <Tonio_> purge = remove in red
[02:13] <Tonio_> reinstall  = update reverted and in blue, to avoid confusion
[02:13] <Tonio_> tell me if that's okay for you ;)
[02:18] <mornfall> Tonio_: yay!
[02:18] <mornfall> Tonio_: thanks, they are good :] 
[02:18] <Tonio_> mornfall: pleasure to help
[02:18] <mornfall> Tonio_: will include in next upload
[02:20] <jpatrick> hola kmon
[02:20] <kmon> hi jpatrick
[02:21] <jpatrick> kmon: nice weather we've been having
[02:22] <kmon> sure
[02:22] <kmon> but my karamba applet says it won't last long
[02:22] <kmon> hehe
[02:23] <mornfall> commited
[02:25] <jpatrick> hi Hobbsee
[02:25] <Hobbsee> hey jpatrick :)
[02:25] <jpatrick> kmon: Liquid Weather? I'm the es i18n-tor for that
[02:25] <kmon> hehe
[02:29] <jpatrick> kmon: could you read thru: http://kubuntu-es.org/?q=node/3 ?
[02:42] <kmon> jpatrick: site off-line
[02:42] <jpatrick> kmon: one sec
[02:43] <kmon> can't read the article
[02:43] <jpatrick> ok, now
[02:43] <kmon> I'm off to eat, when I come back I'll read it
[02:43] <kmon> ;)
[02:43] <jpatrick> just load the page, so I can put it off-line
[02:56] <kmon> jpatrick: ok
[02:56] <kmon> I'm reading it
[02:57] <kmon> there are some things incorrect
[02:57] <jpatrick> I know that
[02:57] <kmon> do you want me to help you with the corrections?
[02:57] <jpatrick> yes
[02:57] <jpatrick> ...please
[02:58] <kmon> maybe we should talk about this in another channel
[02:58] <jpatrick> #kubuntu-es
[03:25] <pradeepto> Riddell: around?
[03:26] <Tm_T> rrrruaaaaaahhh
[03:26] <Tm_T> just kill me
[03:26] <pradeepto> can someboy help me with gpart thingie?
[03:28] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: what's up?
[03:32] <pradeepto> please? anyone around?
[03:34] <pradeepto> well my laptops partition table got hosed while I was using the beta1
[03:34] <pradeepto> I was told to try gpart -W /dev/hda /dev/hda
[03:35] <pradeepto> did that but I am not quite sure if its output is something that shows that I have my data intact.
[03:35] <pradeepto> can anybody please tell me what am I supposed to see or whatever
[03:36] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: just not feeling very well
[03:36] <Hobbsee> :(
[03:37] <Tm_T> atleast I did fix mostly the stuff I needed to do before Kopete 0.12 release
[03:37] <Tm_T> I hope
[03:42] <Tm_T> also, I have problems with cursor themes
[03:49] <Riddell> pradeepto: hi
[03:49] <pradeepto> Riddell: hi
[03:49] <pradeepto> Riddell: gpart results were not very encouraging
[03:50] <pradeepto> it sort of detected only swap partition or such
[03:52] <pradeepto> Riddell: there is this tool called testdisk which does detect partitions correctly,
[03:52] <pradeepto> but say that my /home is deleted but I can actually list the files in /home right now.
[03:54] <Riddell> might be a good time to take a backup
[03:55] <pradeepto> Riddell: how do I do that, I can list only from this testdisk tool
[03:55] <Riddell> not sure I'm afraid, I've never used it
[03:56] <Hobbsee> Riddell: there is ever *not* a good time to make a backup?  *crosses fingers, thinking of her last backup*
[03:57] <Riddell> I've not done a backup since I started with this live installer stuff, it uses my normal backup machine
[03:57] <Hobbsee> risky...
[03:57] <Tm_T> hey btw, anyone knows reason why so many screensavers are disappeared?
[03:58] <Tm_T> like, there's no more bsod
[03:59] <Tm_T> humm, about half of screensavers disappeared some point this spring
[03:59] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: did you know if the bsod screensaver could be downloaded for windows?
[03:59] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: no, it's part of it ;)
[03:59] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[03:59] <Tonio_> Riddell: are you using drbd ?
[03:59] <Tm_T> that means no idea
[03:59] <Hobbsee> yeah, but is there a screensaver edition of it?
[03:59] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:59] <Tonio_> very interesting to manage backups between 2 machines :)
[04:00] <uniq> I use partimage for complete backups, it is great. It's also included in the sysresccd.org if everything gets fubar :)
[04:01] <Tonio_> uniq: the advantage of drbd, when you have 2 machines is that it creates a kind of "raid1 over lan"
[04:02] <Tonio_> but that doesn't prevent from manual file deletion
[04:02] <uniq> sounds cool.
[04:03] <Tonio_> uniq: it is ;)
[04:04] <Riddell> Tonio_: no, what's that?
[04:04] <Tonio_> Riddell: a tool to make "raid1 over lan"
[04:04] <Tonio_> real time sync between two machines
[04:04] <Riddell> Tm_T: xscreensaver has been split, some if it is now in universe or maybe mulitverse
[04:04] <Riddell> Tonio_: interesting
[04:05] <Tonio_> Riddell: I use it at work for clustering file servers, coupled with heartbeat
[04:05] <Tonio_> Riddell: did you receive the gtk_qt patch for kdebase ?
[04:06] <Tm_T> Riddell: err, I have been trying to find packages but no
[04:07] <Tm_T> oh well, most of screensavers I used, are now gone, but atleast clock is still there
[04:07] <jpatrick> haha
[04:08] <jpatrick> gotta love that clock
[04:08] <Riddell> Tonio_: just uploaded it
[04:08] <Tonio_> Riddell: many thanks
[04:08] <Riddell> thank you
[04:09] <Tonio_> lure not there and no news from timo....
[04:09] <Tonio_> I'll prepare the uvfe for knetworkmanager, we cannot waste more time on this
[04:11] <Tonio_> jpatrick: gotten your kexi mbd package review twice or not ?
[04:11] <jpatrick> no
[04:11] <jpatrick> noone else around
[04:11] <Tonio_> jpatrick: if not when he is back, I'll ask raphink for this
[04:11] <jpatrick> wait there's freeflying-ibook....
[04:11] <Tonio_> jpatrick: noone on ubuntu-motu ?
[04:12] <jpatrick> let's see..
[04:12] <Tm_T> agh!
[04:12] <Tonio_> jpatrick: I must say I didn't test the driver itself, I just looked at package structure, building and installation
[04:13] <Tonio_> I don't have access databases to test
[04:13] <Tm_T> normal X11 cursor theme, "whiteglass" is just half of it in my Kubuntu :(
[04:13] <jpatrick> Tonio_: me neither, but hey
[04:13] <Tm_T> all window resize cursors are black
[04:13] <freeflying-ibook> jpatrick: what/
[04:13] <Tm_T> anyone else have similar?
[04:13] <jpatrick> freeflying-ibook: can you poke http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2316 ?
[04:14] <Tonio_> Tm_T: how to reproduce exactly ?
[04:14] <freeflying-ibook> jpatrick: just a moment
[04:14] <Tonio_> I don't see anything like that
[04:14] <Tm_T> Tonio_: just select "whiteclass" cursor theme, relogin to KDE and move cursor to window edge, whoo default X cursor, not whiteclass one
[04:15] <Tonio_> let me check ;)
[04:16] <Tonio_> Tm_T: confirmed
[04:16] <Tm_T> thanks
[04:16] <Tonio_> but anyway, I really dislike this theme, so I don't mind ;)
[04:16] <Tm_T> =)
[04:16] <Tm_T> haha
[04:16] <Tm_T> well, I somewhat too, but there's no better
[04:17] <Tm_T> that black cursor is too... black
[04:17] <Tonio_> Tm_T: put it on K button in kicker
[04:17] <Tonio_> it is the default hand
[04:17] <Tonio_> not whiteglass
[04:17] <Tonio_> second bug ;)
[04:17] <Tm_T> well, I don't have kmenu in kicker
[04:17] <Tonio_> confirmed too ?
[04:17] <Tm_T> ;)
[04:17] <jpatrick> Tonio_: if there's any problems we'll get bug reports
[04:17] <Tonio_> or another icon
[04:17] <Tonio_> any in fact, just on kicker
[04:17] <Tm_T> but yeah, it's just half of the whiteclass theme
[04:18] <Tonio_> jpatrick: true
[04:18] <Tonio_> coming back, this theme is really..........
[04:18] <jpatrick> really what.....
[04:18] <Riddell> hello William_Shand 
[04:19] <jpatrick> Tonio_: wb
[04:19] <William_Shand> Hello
[04:20] <jpatrick> Tonio_: you were saying..
[04:20] <freeflying-ibook> jpatrick: what shall I do for you?
[04:20] <Tonio_> jpatrick: I was saying the whiteglass theme is.......... special
[04:20] <jpatrick> freeflying-ibook: revu it
[04:20] <Tonio_> but control file should contain : Conflicts: Tonio
[04:21] <freeflying-ibook> jpatrick: fine to me, bdesides that I can not pbuilder it
[04:21] <jpatrick> already pbuilt ;)
[04:21] <jpatrick> ok, uploading to ubunut
[04:21] <Tonio_> jpatrick: new derivative ? :)
[04:21] <freeflying-ibook> jpatrick: it will be in NEW for a long time :)
[04:22] <jpatrick> Tonio_: sorry
[04:22] <Tonio_> freeflying-ibook: is NEW frozen ?
[04:23] <freeflying-ibook> Tonio_: seems to be, I've uploaded one one week ago, it wtill go into buildd
[04:23] <jpatrick> let's poke Kamion
[04:23] <Tonio_> freeflying-ibook: arf...
[04:23] <freeflying-ibook> it's hard now
[04:24] <Tonio_> freeflying-ibook: sounds logic, release in a month....
[04:24] <freeflying-ibook> I have uploaded a doc package, still in NEW heh
[04:25] <jpatrick> ...
[04:25] <pradeepto> Riddell: any idea who this is? Michael Vogt?
[04:29] <Riddell> pradeepto: mvo, he's our top apt dude
[04:29] <Riddell> well, canonical's top apt dude
[04:29] <Riddell> obviously kubuntu's top apt dude is mornfall 
[04:30] <pradeepto> Riddell: apparently even he faced this problem and used testdisk tool get the partition table fixed.
[04:30] <pradeepto> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta/PartitionTableCorruption
[04:30] <pradeepto> Read his comment at the bottom of the page.
[04:39] <smoosh> hi, i think tha i've found a bug in kubuntu...
[04:40] <smoosh> the owner of file "~/.kde/share/config/kcontrolrc" is root and not the current user...
[04:42] <jpatrick> smoosh: did you sudo $KApp ?
[04:42] <smoosh> no
[04:42] <jpatrick> ....
[04:43] <jpatrick> as in "sudo kcontrol" ?
[04:43] <smoosh> but this file is for local config, so i think that sudo is not needded, i wrong?
[04:46] <jpatrick> It isn't
[05:11] <sebas> Do we really have no open bugs for guidance?
[05:11] <sebas> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/kde-guidance
[05:14] <jpatrick> we're that good
[05:16] <sebas> Good thing then :>
[05:16] <jpatrick> :)
[06:10] <Riddell> sebas: any comment on the patch at the end of this? https://launchpad.net/bugs/41926
[06:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 41926 in kdeutils klaptopdaemon "Software suspend is no longer located in /proc/software_suspend" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  
[08:15] <sebas> Riddell: I'd leave it at checking if /usr/sbin/hibernate exists.
[08:15] <sebas> /proc/suspend2 and /proc/software_suspend might go away in the long run since it might be done from userspace in the future.
[08:16] <sebas> Additionally, why should klaptopdaemon care about the implementation (suspend2 vs. vanilla's swsusp vs. userspace suspend)
[08:16] <sebas> That's the job of /usr/sbin/hibernate
[08:17] <sebas> The hang the user reports is probably a driver problem, so unrelated.
[08:37] <\sh> moins
[08:38] <pygi> hi \sh
[09:24] <Lure> Sime: I have related question - how is KCModule reporting back changed status (module->changed()) to SysSettings?
[09:25] <Lure> I have a problem that if I click Apply in networkconf that Show All still ask for Unsaved changes...
[09:25] <Lure> Not sure yet if this is bug in networkconf (not notifying SysSettings about status) or SysSettings (not properly handling feedback from module)
[09:26] <Sime> The KCModule should be sending "changed(bool)" signals when its state changes. (i.e. when it has something to apply or reset).
[09:27] <Sime> this signal is picked up and used for enabling/disabled the apply and reset buttons for example.
[09:27] <Riddell> ther guidance modules used to all work
[09:28] <Sime> Riddell: come again?
[09:28] <Lure> Sime: strange - Apply button is shaded (I think), but Show all still asks for Unsaved changes...
[09:29] <Sime> Lure: It sounds like knetworkconf is not send the changed() signal all the time.
[09:29] <Lure> Sime: you are right, Apply is also not shaded after Apply, therefore it is not sending changed(false)
[09:30] <Lure> will look into this and try to fix it properly...
[09:30] <Riddell> Sime: I'm sure this apply problem is a recent problem
[09:31] <Lure> Riddell: I would suspect this is there forever... Do you see it also in other modules?
[09:32] <Lure> Riddell: what may also confuse users is that module is not stopped on Show All - this confused me and Discard for knetworkconf does not do anything (as you would expect) as knetworkconf expect it wil go down
[09:32] <Lure> but this is not true anymore with System Settings...
[09:37] <Sime> Riddell: when the user click on Discard, then the module's load() method is called. load() should throw away any changes and restore the settings.
[09:41] <Riddell> hello Sime 
[09:41] <sfllaw> Riddell: Hello.
[09:41] <Riddell> hello sfllaw 
[09:41] <Riddell> everyone: this is sfllaw, canonical's new beastie sorter
[09:41] <sfllaw> I don't do it all myself!
[09:42] <Riddell> he'll be fixing all our bugs from now on :)
[09:42] <sfllaw> Anyway, I understand that KDE is a hotspot for bug triaging, yes?
[09:42] <jpatrick> sfllaw: nice to meet you
[09:42] <Riddell> sfllaw: yep, I've been quite busy with fixing things that i know about and havn't had much time for triaging
[09:42] <sfllaw> jpatrick: Same here.
[09:43] <Riddell> sfllaw: used KDE much?
[09:43] <sfllaw> Not recently.  :)
[09:43] <sfllaw> What class of issues do you normally see?
[09:43] <\sh> Riddell: checked the patch?
[09:43] <sfllaw> And how do you want bugs handled?
[09:44] <Riddell> \sh: nope, it's top of my todo list now
[09:44] <sfllaw> I typically Needs Info until I get decent reproduction steps, and try to correlate bugs with upstream and other distros.
[09:44] <Riddell> sfllaw: all sorts of issues, many upstream bugs but quite a few we've managed ourselves or which come in from debian
[09:44] <Riddell> the main place we subscribe to them is kubuntu-team  https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+subscribedbugs
[09:45] <Riddell> I'm also subscribed to quite a few https://launchpad.net/people/jr/+assignedbugs
[09:45] <Lure> sfllaw: nice to have you around
[09:46] <sfllaw> Lure: Thanks.
[09:46] <sfllaw> Riddell: OK.  I'll see if I can find some #ubuntu-bugs people who are more familiar with KDE.  And keep that in mind during the next HUG day.
[09:47] <sfllaw> We'll be looking for crashers, as those tend to take some time to fix.
[09:47] <sfllaw> Are there any classes of bugs where early triaging can help more?
[09:47] <sfllaw> Or special traiging?
[09:47] <sfllaw> s/ai/ia/
[09:48] <sfllaw> Any -dbg libraries that are helpful?
[09:49] <jpatrick> kdelibs4c2-dbg
[09:49] <Riddell> all of KDE itself should have dbg libraries 
[09:50] <Riddell> we've had a good number of problems with knetworkconf which Lure has done a great job fixing up
[09:50] <sfllaw> All right.  I'll keep an eye out for that.
[09:51] <Lure> sfllaw: I think we miss an overview as lots of bugs are in generic packages (kdemeta...) and not triaged for long time
[09:52] <sfllaw> OK.
[09:52] <sfllaw> I'll try to narrow some of them down.
[09:52] <Riddell> yes, one issue with kde is that a lot of programmes come from source packages which make a lot of binary packages
[09:52] <Riddell> and people dont' know what source package to give it to
[09:52] <sfllaw> Understandably.
[09:52] <sfllaw> Does the sorting actually help you guys?
[09:52] <Lure> sfllaw: since I cannot go though all, I just choose one area that is pain and try to clean it up (a did kdeadmin in last week or two)
[09:52] <sfllaw> If so, I'll put some effort into doing that for Unconfirmed bugs.
[09:54] <Lure> sfllaw: that would be great 
[09:58] <Tonio_> Lure: hey ;)
[09:58] <Lure> Tonio_: hi
[09:58] <Tonio_> Lure: any response from timo ?
[09:58] <Lure> Just downloaded mail - will check
[09:59] <Tonio_> Lure: okay, if no response we will post uvfe with our acutal version, ok ?
[09:59] <\sh> Riddell: problem was, that the dict items had an array as value...and with this for loop you got the array :) I used now the "real dict keys"
[09:59] <Lure> Tonio_: no response
[09:59] <Tonio_> we can always say that the current svn revision FTBFS
[09:59] <Tonio_> that's a good reason for using a previous one
[09:59] <Lure> Tonio_: yes, I think this is probably best, but we will have issue with package change with next UVFe
[10:00] <Lure> subdirectory and stuff
[10:00] <Tonio_> why ?
[10:00] <Tonio_> Lure: I don't think so, since there will be a 0.1 final tarball from suse
[10:00] <Lure> Tonio_: because we will need to switch to sv2dist format sooner or later
[10:00] <Tonio_> so no problem I assume
[10:01] <Tonio_> Lure: not sure, we will be able to use tarballs ;)
[10:01] <Lure> I think they will create it with svn2dist....
[10:01] <Tonio_> Lure: we'll see
[10:01] <sfllaw> OK.  Thanks guys.
[10:01] <Tonio_> Lure: once dapper is released, no uvfe required, simply revu and that's it
[10:01] <Tonio_> that will not be an issue
[10:01] <sfllaw> I hang out in #ubuntu-bugs, so if you need anything, just pop in and let me know.
[10:01] <Lure> sfllaw: ok, will do - thanks!
[10:01] <Tonio_> this knm will probably be the latest in the dapper session
[10:02] <Lure> Tonio_: you should just request UVFe with your package and then we will see...
[10:02] <Tonio_> Lure: the missing stuff is the changelog
[10:03] <Tonio_> I didn't found a convenient way to extract the revision to revision from kde svn
[10:03] <Tonio_> Lure: any info on that point ?
[10:03] <Tonio_> kwwii: nite
[10:03] <\sh> kwwii: when you meet juliux, please ask him for the badges, or we have to try to get some
[10:03] <\sh> kwwii: cu at linuxtag :)
[10:04] <kwwii> \sh: hrm, perhaps I should print something now, just in case
[10:04] <kwwii> \sh: now you made me worry :-)
[10:05] <Lure> Tonio_: just do svn log on complete and then strip what is not there ;-)
[10:05] <\sh> kwwii: when you can print something with a kubuntu logo on it with the names on the kubuntu wiki, we can try to get some pins for it :)
[10:05] <Tonio_> Lure: how ?
[10:05] <Lure> Tonio_: is there no ChnageLog in the tarball from src.rpm?
[10:05] <Tonio_> I don't see how to get it
[10:05] <Tonio_> shell command or something ?
[10:05] <kwwii> \sh: if I've time left after packing I wll do that, just in case
[10:06] <Lure> Tonio_: cd kdereview/knetworkmanager
[10:06] <Lure> Tonio_: svn log
[10:06] <\sh> kwwii: cool...btw...gpg key id and passport :) we need to sign keys :)
[10:06] <Tonio_> Lure: hu ? I should have miss this
[10:08] <\sh> hi Zerlinna
[10:08] <kwwii> \sh: good idea
[10:08] <Zerlinna> hi \sh :-)
[10:09] <Lure> Tonio_, Riddell: are there any problems with UVFe on package where icons change (due to freezes for docs and stuff)?
[10:10] <Tonio_> Lure: well.... in theory I would say yes, but if we reject for this reason, I think nothing will be accepted...
[10:11] <Tonio_> that's hard to manage ;)
[10:11] <Lure> Tonio_: we could always backport individual fixes to our version (like fix for resume)
[10:12] <Tonio_> Lure: sure
[10:12] <Lure> I would personally love to have new icons in...
[10:12] <Lure> I hate those dull GNOME ones...
[10:12] <Tonio_> Lure: I don't see the svn log
[10:13] <Tonio_> Lure: am I crazy ?
[10:13] <Tonio_> changelog maybe ?
[10:13] <Tonio_> but that doesn't give a lot of infos......
[10:13] <kwwii> did someone say "icons"?
[10:14] <Lure> Tonio_: do you have "svn co" (checouted version) of knm? Then go to appropriate dir and run "svn log"
[10:14] <Sime> ok, I think I've got the buttons sorted out in systemsettings. Riddel, you want to me to commit it?
[10:14] <kwwii> ahhh, yes...Lure, which icons do you mean?
[10:14] <Lure> Sime: what is the fix?
[10:14] <Lure> kwwii: knetworkmanager - we got latest from KDE SVN
[10:14] <Tonio_> Lure: stupid of me, I was typing "svn logs"
[10:14] <kwwii> haha
[10:14] <Tonio_> hehe
[10:14] <Lure> kwwii: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdereview/knetworkmanager/pics/
[10:14] <Sime> Lure: ummm eerrrr It is not a one-liner if that is what you are asking.
[10:15] <kwwii> I knew that I would end up doing those icons, one way or the other
[10:15] <kwwii> my ex-suse colleagues would love it! ;-)
[10:15] <Tonio_> kwwii: they are much better than previous ones
[10:15] <Lure> Sime: is there a bug (I will see the fix when you upload anyhow)?
[10:15] <Tonio_> Sime: hey ;)
[10:16] <Sime> Lure: The "Close" button never showed up when requested by the module. And the "reset" button is alway enabled.
[10:17] <Tonio_> Sime: just fyi, nvidia proprietary driver is still unselectable in the display module... even if installed
[10:17] <Tonio_> Sime: what could I send you to help on that point ?
[10:18] <Sime> Tonio_: tell you what. I'll put an nvidia in my test machine and try it out myself. :-)
[10:18] <\sh> kwwii: so LT is something like a ex-suse/novell-suse family meeting :)
[10:18] <Tonio_> Sime: hehe
[10:20] <Tonio_> Lure: good point ;) "update artwork with icons from" is revision 533311, and we use 533312
[10:21] <Tonio_> Lure: novell doesn't use the good ones, so in fact we are synced correctly with the svn revision
[10:21] <Tonio_> good point ;)
[10:21] <Lure> Tonio_: I think SuSE just wants the ugly ones for some reason... ;-)
[10:22] <Tonio_> Lure: certainly ;)
[10:22] <Sime> Tonio_: I can easily test the legacy nvidia stuff. But I ordered a 6600GT this morning and should have it by the end of the week. :-D
[10:23] <kwwii> \sh: yeah, I already talked to the guys who are coming - looking forward to it :-)
[10:23] <Tonio_> Sime: don't tell me you bought it just to test ? :)
[10:23] <\sh> kwwii: looks like that I have to meet timo :)
[10:24] <kwwii> hehe
[10:24] <kwwii> timo is great
[10:24] <Sime> Tonio_: I bought it to shut you up!
[10:24] <Lure> Tonio_: you should meet timo too!
[10:24] <kwwii> Lure: I do not think that suse decides which icons to use anymore :-)
[10:24] <Riddell> Lure: it breaks artwork freeze, but should be fine if it's knetworkmanager as that isn't installed by default
[10:24] <Tonio_> Sime: haha
[10:25] <\sh> kwwii: I just wondered yesterday, why your name on the wikipage was familiar to me ... then I checked again the oxygene webpage, and finally, there was the connection :) I'm really looking forward to meet you :)
[10:25] <Tonio_> Sime: well sorry for bugging you everytime, but nvidia support is important, since most linux users are using nvidia and not ati
[10:25] <Sime> Tonio_: no. That is fine. bug if you have to.
[10:26] <Tonio_> Sime: I promisse to leave you alone once I can click this "proprietary" button :)
[10:26] <kwwii> \sh: omg, I am famous! (hehe)...can't wait to meet everyone, I am still new to kubuntu in that respect
[10:26] <Sime> Riddell: you want me to commit these fixes for systemsettings?
[10:26] <\sh> kwwii: well...new to kubuntu but for kde a vip :)
[10:27] <kwwii> haha, I should tell them that and ask 'em at the same time to pay for my hotel room ;-)
[10:28] <\sh> kwwii: use the gym like the others :) or at least amu and I ...will be fun :)
[10:29] <Tonio_> Lure: let's go for uvfe
[10:29] <Riddell> Sime: so it's a problem in system settings?
[10:29] <Riddell> Sime: how come it only affects guidance?
[10:31] <\sh> Riddell: are you going to the desktop architect meeting in mainz?
[10:33] <Riddell> \sh: no time.  I need to concentrate on dapper, linuxtag is quite enough time away from that
[10:34] <\sh> Riddell: just recognized you on the meeting 1 group picture :)
[10:36] <Lure> Tonio_: seen bug 42335 - it looks like users expect it in Internet... ;-)
[10:36] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 42335 in knetworkmanager "knetworkmanager's icon should be placed under the internet menu folder" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/42335
[10:37] <Tonio_> Lure: as it is an equivalent to kwifimanager, that's logic....
[10:37] <Tonio_> even if the system seems more appropriate
[10:37] <Tonio_> Riddell: where would you place knetworkmanager in the kmenu ?
[10:37] <Lure> Tonio_: you can add this bug id to the list of bug fixed in UVFe ;-)
[10:38] <Tonio_> Lure: hehe, nope since I changed it to go back to system
[10:38] <Tonio_> or should I remove the patch maybe ?
[10:38] <Tonio_> Lure: \sh will make an heart attack then......
[10:39] <Lure> Tonio_: I am fine with whatever, as Internet is mess anyhow
[10:39] <Lure> :-(
[10:39] <verwilst> kmail always mis-sorts my mail
[10:40] <verwilst> i have it sorted according to date
[10:40] <Tonio_> Lure: I would prefer to see both wlassistant and knetworkmanager in system
[10:40] <verwilst> with the newest above
[10:40] <Tonio_> Lure: as kwifimanager will be removed anyway
[10:40] <\sh> well...I can re-explain the problems with being a common network utility and being in the "Internet" Menu...who ever invented this myth...tar and feathers
[10:40] <verwilst> but when i open kmail, it's not correct
[10:40] <Tonio_> \sh: I share your vision on that point...
[10:41] <verwilst> i have to click the "date" column in order to make it sort correctly again
[10:41] <Tonio_> I think the correction is more on kwifimanager that shouldn't be in internet
[10:41] <Tonio_> a network configuration is a system tool, not an internet utility
[10:41] <\sh> kppp shouldn't be named "internet access dialer" or something like this, because PPP has so much todo with internet like a banana with an apple tree
[10:42] <Tonio_> \sh: ^^ ;)
[10:43] <Tonio_> Riddell: what about a reorganization of the kmenu regarding the internet section ?
[10:43] <Tonio_> Riddell: moving kppp, wlassistant and knetworkmanager to system to just keep internet dedicated tools in the internet section ?
[10:44] <mornfall> Riddell: haha, as for your mail from Apr 29: X-CRM114-Status: SPAM  ( pR: -9.9848 )
[10:44] <jjesse> no reorg for dapper pleaze
[10:45] <mornfall> Riddell: i'll reply when i finish filtering spam.maybe
[10:47] <\sh> jjesse: critical for the doc team?
[10:47] <Sime> Riddell: because only serviceconfig requests a a "Close" button instead of "Apply/Reset".
[10:49] <Lure> Tonio_: I would agree with jjesse and leave knm in Internet and then rething the whole K-menu for Edgy...
[10:49] <\sh> loll....aseigo shout it out loud: if python were to be christened the quick-n-dirty app devel language of choice for the open source desktop, several things would likely have to happen. like the string handling in python would need to get unfuckified.
[10:51] <Tonio_> Lure: let's go with this ;)
[10:51] <Tonio_> Lure: http://pastebin.com/693031
[10:51] <Tonio_> Lure: would you like too add something ?
[10:53] <Lure> Tonio_: s/hybernate/hibernate/
[10:53] <Tonio_> Lure: oups
[10:53] <Lure> Tonio_: with icons I would mention Riddell's point that it should be allowed as it is not installed by default and in documentation
[10:55] <Tonio_> Lure: okay, pointing this
[10:57] <Tonio_> Lure: http://pastebin.com/693042
[10:57] <Tonio_> I think that can be posted
[10:57] <Tonio_> unless you have other arguments to provide
[10:57] <Lure> Tonio_: ok with me
[10:58] <Tonio_> Lure: great
[11:01] <Tonio_> Lure: commited, now let's wait and hope :)
[11:01] <Lure> bug id?
[11:02] <Tonio_> Lure: I didn't rebuild all files with patch for internet-> removed
[11:02] <Tonio_> Lure: I will change that before upload
[11:02] <Tonio_> bug 42465
[11:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 42465 in knetworkmanager "UVF Exception : 0.1 svn r5961 -> 0.1 svn r533312" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/42465
[11:06] <Riddell> mornfall: erk, how did it manage that?
[11:06] <Riddell> Tonio_: seems less intuitive than Internet to me
[11:07] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay ;)
[11:07] <mornfall> Riddell: dunnow, i probably only get spam about interviews most of the time ;-)
[11:07] <mornfall> Riddell: could have been worse, like spam.confident -- i don't read that one
[11:08] <mornfall> it has 2000 unread mails atm
[11:19] <\sh> Riddell: btw...how can we solve the "acpi_fakekey" problem?
[11:20] <Riddell> \sh: what's the problem?
[11:20] <\sh> Riddell: it doesn't work :)
[11:21] <\sh> Riddell: fn+hibernate e.g. sends out the acpi event correctly, acpi is triggering /etc/acpi/hibernatebtn.sh and this triggers acpi_fakekey $LINUX_KEYCODE_FOR_HIBERNATE_KEY
[11:22] <\sh> but for the r200 here, it never works...whereas /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh works fine :)
[11:22] <Sime> [22:49]  <Sime> Riddell: because only serviceconfig requests a a "Close" button instead of "Apply/Reset".
[11:22] <Riddell> \sh: we could set a khotkeys binding for it?
[11:22] <Riddell> Sime: ah, interesting
[11:23] <\sh> Riddell: if khotkeys is catching linux keycodes?
[11:23] <Riddell> yes
[11:25] <\sh> Riddell: I'll give it a try and propose a solution...it's not much to catch
[11:25] <Tonio_> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/bugs/42323 seems that it doesn't concern only french
[11:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 42323 in kde-i18n-nl "Menu's are mixed Dutch/English" [Major,Unconfirmed]  
[11:26] <Tonio_> but the strange point is that it concerns only menus, not the rest of kde
[11:27] <Tonio_> \sh: using german desktop ?
[11:28] <\sh> Tonio_: no...en_GB :)
[11:28] <Tonio_> \sh arf...
[11:28] <\sh> Tonio_: it's an uk laptop what do you expect? ;)
[11:29] <Tonio_> \sh: hehe :)
[11:29] <Tonio_> localisation errors are hard to figure out for most developpers since they aparently all use english as primary language for their desktop
[11:30] <\sh> good reason for "wontfix" ;)
[11:30] <Tonio_> lol
[11:31] <Tonio_> hehe, first time I can see a french store selling ubuntu based pcs :)
[11:31] <Sime> Riddell: ok, I've commited the code to svn. Try it out if you like.
[11:34] <Riddell> Sime: cool, will do
[11:52] <Riddell> do we know a Vladcodrea?
[11:53] <Riddell> he's added a load of ideas to the summer of code page