[12:08] <Ahmuck> i am looking for an app that i can access my camera with
[12:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i need some help with my wireless i'm using a r4000 laptop (presario) and just need help with ndiswrappe
[12:09] <HymnToLife> !ndiswrapper
[12:09] <ubotu> somebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[12:09] <wubrgamer> Ryoga85: i'm sorry ?
[12:09] <wubrgamer> i'm sorry ?
[12:09] <wubrgamer> argah
[12:09] <Ryoga85> just follow that link
[12:10] <Ryoga85> hi HymnToLife
[12:10] <HymnToLife> !tell Ryoga85 about hello
[12:11] <Ryoga85> lol
[12:11] <toni123> !tell toni123 about help
[12:16] <Lorenzod> Does anybody have amarok working on current Dapper?
[12:16] <Lorenzod> Actually, neither amarok nor juk works for me.. :-(
[12:17] <wubrgamer> Ryoga85:
[12:18] <Ryoga85> wubrgamer: ?
[12:18] <wubrgamer> oh sry
[12:18] <wubrgamer> lol
[12:19] <wubrgamer> i'm using two kb's at once
[12:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there..!
[12:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> suppose that i want to use amule daemon instead of amule GUI to manage my download
[12:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> this because the latter make kwin crash sometimes
[12:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> if i put the amuled link in the autoexec folder of KDE when it crashes, even amule crashes right?
[12:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in order to have it autostarted i just have to put it in the /etc/init.d ?
[12:23] <Lorenzod> Tallia1Kubuntu: first of all, scripts in /etc/init.d do not "autostart"
[12:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh, yeah, and then put it in rc.?
[12:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[12:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Lorenzod: italian?
[12:24] <Lorenzod> Tallia1Kubuntu: no, sorry.
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> just wondering :)
[12:25] <Lorenzod> Tallia1Kubuntu: anything in /etc is system wide.
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anyway, amuled is an executable.. so i should create a script to put in etc/init.d
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i know
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am the only user on my laptop
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so there's no problem
[12:25] <Lorenzod> amuled is normally started as your user.
[12:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> to start as my user what do i have to do?
[12:26] <Lorenzod> Tallia1Kubuntu: depends on when you want it to start.
[12:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> before kde starts
[12:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so it not crashes with kde :) in this case i lose all queue positions
[12:27] <Lorenzod> Tallia1Kubuntu: hm..
[12:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and kde components like kwin crashes pretty often
[12:28] <DaSkreech> !adept
[12:28] <ubotu> adept is, like, a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:28] <DaSkreech> IS adept broken in Dapper?
[12:28] <jeff_> mine is :/
[12:28] <DaSkreech> Hi jeff :_)
[12:28] <jeff_> does anybody have the ares plugin for gift working?
[12:28] <jeff_> whats up DaSkreech
[12:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Lorenzod: so to start as user, before kde starts what should i do?
[12:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> insert a line in .bashrc? is that ... clean?
[12:29] <Lorenzod> Tallia1Kubuntu: well, you could check if amuled is already running, an if not, start it.
[12:30] <DaSkreech> !kdesu
[12:30] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.  If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater"
[12:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the bin file already make this check
[12:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so i don't need to do it
[12:30] <DaSkreech> jeff_: Can You try something for me?
[12:30] <jeff_> sure
[12:30] <Lorenzod> Tallia1Kubuntu: in that case..
[12:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how people usually check if an application is already running?
[12:30] <DaSkreech> Do you have NOPASSWD for sudo?
[12:30] <jeff_> which?
[12:31] <DaSkreech> When you run adept does it ask for a pasword?
[12:31] <jeff_> i have a pass for root privillages if thats what ur asking
[12:31] <Lorenzod> jeff_: since when did your adept break. Mine was okayish two hours ago..
[12:31] <jeff_> its been broken sinc i got beta
[12:32] <Lorenzod> jeff_: I experience random crashes, but I get a feeling it's related to skim so I'm removing it.
[12:32] <DaSkreech> jeff_: It asks you for a password?
[12:33] <DaSkreech> jeff_: Can you run adept and put in a blatantly bad password?
[12:33] <jeff_> DaSkreech: yeah, when i type sudo anything, it will ask for my password
[12:33] <jeff_> no
[12:33] <DaSkreech> jeff_: Not sudo kdesu
[12:34] <jeff_> oh
[12:34] <DaSkreech> the floating box for password
[12:34] <jeff_> yeah it wont let me in if i dont ahve to correct pass
[12:34] <DaSkreech> Hmm Mine allows me in no matter what I type
[12:34] <jeff_> lol
[12:34] <jeff_> thats odd
[12:34] <DaSkreech> Course then it breaks instantly after wards so no one can actually do damge
[12:34] <jeff_> Lorenzod: what is skim anyway? why does it come witht he fresh install?
[12:34] <jeff_> lol
[12:35] <jeff_> anybody have the ares plugin for gift working?
[12:35] <Lorenzod> jeff_ skim is an input method framework, used for entering Japanese, Chinese etc. text.
[12:37] <jeff_> Lorenzod: lol, and like 8 people in the world would need that in a default installation of kubuntu beta 1
[12:38] <Lorenzod> jeff_: yay! I'm one out of eight! ;-)
[12:38] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[12:38] <jeff_> you actually needed this app right out of the box?
[12:38] <wubrgamer> one more ndiswrapper question
[12:38] <wubrgamer> i installed it
[12:38] <jeff_> ye
[12:38] <Lorenzod> On the other hand, I hear there is a country with 1.something billion people for who skim may be useful..
[12:39] <wubrgamer> and got it to recognize my hardware
[12:39] <wubrgamer> BUT
[12:39] <wubrgamer> it isn't working
[12:39] <jeff_> wouldnt they be the people to use the chinese language install of kubuntu and not the english one?
[12:39] <GMullen> how do i change access permissions for a folder?
[12:39] <jeff_> GMullen: i think you can with a root konqueror session
[12:40] <Lorenzod> jeff_: I think it's one kubuntu to rule them all..
[12:40] <jeff_> GMullen: then right click the file, properties
[12:40] <jeff_> Lorenzod: but it gives the option for which language you want right?
[12:40] <GMullen> right thx jeff
[12:41] <Lorenzod> jeff_: yes.
[12:41] <jeff_> lol he left before i could say i wasnt sure if it would work
[12:41] <Lorenzod> Now I'm trying to get some apps working after my G->K migration.
[12:41] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i installed ndiswrapper, but it isn't recognizing it as wlan0
[12:41] <wubrgamer> i mean
[12:41] <XP1> how do i delete skype from the startup list?
[12:41] <jeff_> wubrgamer: ?
[12:42] <Lorenzod> First of all amarok. Is amarok supposed to work on an up-to-date Dapper?
[12:42] <Lorenzod> And if so, which engine?
[12:43] <crimsun> yes, it's supposed to work. both xine and gst engines should work.
[12:43] <XP1> anyone know how to remove skype from starting up with my kubuntu?
[12:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Lorenzod: ?? you stopped writing me :)
[12:44] <Lorenzod> crimsun: thanks. I keep getting QInputContext: no input method context available errors.
[12:44] <wubrgamer> guys, any response would be nice
[12:44] <Lorenzod> Followed by *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x088febd8 ***
[12:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Lorenzod: can you tell me how to start a user application as daemon outside KDE?
[12:45] <steveire> Is GRUBv2 used in Dapper?
[12:45] <crimsun> wubrgamer: your question is pretty vague
[12:45] <iNiku> wubrgamer, a question would be nice :)
[12:45] <crimsun> steveire: 0.97
[12:45] <Lorenzod> Tallia1Kubuntu: not sure what you mean, "outside of KDE"
[12:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> not putting a link in the kde autostart folder
[12:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> such that a xorg/kde crash doesn't cause amule disconnection
[12:46] <steveire> hmmm. I'm pretty sure I've got v1.5 currently.
[12:46] <Lorenzod> crimsun, is gst engine even available for amarok any more?
[12:47] <wubrgamer> i installed ndiswrapper, and i'm in need of help with installing it properly
[12:47] <wubrgamer> i don't think that it recognizes my hardware
[12:47] <XP1> what kind?
[12:48] <jeff_> wubrgamer: do you have the drivers?
[12:48] <Lorenzod> Tallia1Kubuntu: have to log out/in. brb.
[12:48] <jeff_> wubrgamer: its not enought o install the package, you have to find your driver and then install that with ndis
[12:49] <crimsun> Lorenzod: doesn't look like it, since it's not a build dependency
[12:49] <steveire> crimsun: OK, I've got .95 currently, but I think it says on bootup that it's v1.5
[12:50] <jeff_> wubrgamer: i cant talk to you with private messages for some reason
[12:50] <Lorenzod> crimsun: yeah, I think with gst 0.8 -> 0.10 migration it may have been removed.
[12:50] <jeff_> wubrgamer: it says that i have to register my nick, which ive already done
[12:50] <jeff_> wubrgamer: but it rejects my password
[12:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Lorenzod: :)
[12:50] <Lorenzod> But regardless, I've got both arts and xine engines, and neither seems to work.
[12:51] <wubrgamer> oh
[12:51] <wubrgamer> weird
[12:51] <wubrgamer> hey how are you mssging me now ?
[12:51] <wubrgamer> (first time irc as well lol)
[12:52] <toni123> Hi
[12:52] <jeff_> wubrgamer: im not private messaging you, im just typing your name at the beginning of the message
[12:52] <wubrgamer> oh okay
[12:52] <wubrgamer> jeff_ like this ?
[12:52] <jeff_> wubrgamer: yeah
[12:52] <wubrgamer> jeff_: like this ?
[12:53] <jeff_> wubrgamer: are you using konversation?
[12:53] <wubrgamer> jeff_:
[12:53] <wubrgamer> jeff_: no
[12:53] <wubrgamer> jeff_: no chatzilla
[12:53] <toni123> I have the kubuntu boot menu...how can I remove it??
[12:53] <jeff_> ok
[12:53] <wubrgamer> jeff_:lol
[12:53] <wubrgamer> jeff_: i'm on a windows box right now
[12:53] <jeff_> wubrgamer: aw
[12:53] <jeff_> wubrgamer: boo
[12:53] <wubrgamer> jeff_: hey, calm down.........i'm trying to make the switch
[12:53] <toni123> malta
[12:54] <wubrgamer> jeff_: not cool
[12:54] <toni123> I have the kubuntu boot menu...how can I remove it??
[12:54] <wubrgamer> lol
[12:54] <jeff_> wubrgamer: ok
[12:54] <toni123> pls
[12:54] <jeff_> toni123: do you mean the boot splash?
[12:54] <toni123> no
[12:55] <XP1> jeff_, know how to remove skype from startup?
[12:55] <toni123> that thing to choose from different OSes
[12:55] <jeff_> XP1: no :(
[12:55] <toni123> i forgot what was it called
[12:55] <jeff_> XP1: are you using "reload last session"?
[12:55] <wubrgamer> jeff_: seriosly, i need help with my r4000 machine
[12:55] <wubrgamer> *tear*
[12:55] <toni123> i have to restart my pc to check
[12:55] <XP1> jeff_, everytime i start kubuntu, skype pops up
[12:55] <iNiku> grub
[12:56] <iNiku> but, what are you planning to use instead?
[12:56] <toni123> yes GRUB
[12:56] <talljon84> Is anyone aware of a deb package that will provide the libstdc++.so.2.8 lib that's required for some games?
[12:56] <toni123> How do I remove GRUB pls?
[12:56] <jeff_> wubrgamer: did you do everythin on the ndiswrapper how-to?
[12:57] <iNiku> toni123: why would you want to remove it?
[12:57] <jeff_> XP1: there is a foldersomewhere that has auto start stuff in it
[12:57] <XP1> jeff_,which one ?
[12:57] <jeff_> XP1: or you can change the settings in skype, but im not sure
[12:57] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[12:57] <jeff_> XP1: lol i dont know
[12:57] <jeff_> wubrgamer: hey
[12:57] <XP1> jeff_, i can't find it in skype
[12:58] <jeff_> XP1: hmm
[12:58] <toni123> I am removing linux temporarily
[12:58] <iNiku> damn it. I had the wireless working for a while, now it won't again. everything gets initialized correctly as far as I can tell, iwconfig shows the proper ssid and the keys are there, but it just won't work.
[12:58] <wubrgamer> how do i figure out where my wireless card is on pciid or usbid ?
[12:58] <wubrgamer> lol
[12:58] <wubrgamer> i need a number
[12:58] <jeff_> XP1: ok, in the terminal type locate autostart
[12:58] <XP1> ok
[12:58] <jeff_> XP1: maybe it'll turn up there
[12:58] <wubrgamer> FROM MY MACHINE !!!!!!!!
[12:58] <wubrgamer> argah
[12:58] <iNiku> toni123: oh, okay. usually fdisk /mbr does the trick, but it means you won't be able to boot linux anymore
[12:58] <jeff_> wubrgamer: lol yeah ur in a dilly of a pickle
[12:58] <steveire> toni123: You don't have to remove GRB
[12:58] <iNiku> and if things go wrong, you won't be able to boot windows either :)
[12:58] <steveire> GRUB*
[12:58] <jeff_> wubrgamer: is ur kubuntu comp a laptop?
[12:59] <wubrgamer> jeff_: yes
[12:59] <HymnToLife> [00:58]  iNiku and if things go wrong, you won't be able to boot windows either :) <= how is this wrong ?
[12:59] <wubrgamer> why am i in a dilly of a pickle ?
[12:59] <jeff_> iNiku: if you mess up grub, put in the windows cd and it will fix everything for windows
[12:59] <wubrgamer> dude
[12:59] <HolySavior> hey, im Running Kubuntu on my laptop, and something happened and my little start menu bar on the bottom completely dissappeared and it wont come back. is there an easy was to have it come back or do i have to restart?
[12:59] <wubrgamer> please tell me how to figure out my pciid ?
[12:59] <toni123> no it doesn't
[12:59] <steveire> I'm pretty sure you can replace it with if you use your windows cd to install the master boot record or something
[12:59] <jeff_> wubrgamer: you have to di the stuff on your kubuntu comp then read what to do next on this comp
[12:59] <toni123> i tried it
[01:00] <iNiku> HymnToLife: is it?
[01:00] <wubrgamer> that's fine
[01:00] <jeff_> HolySavior: type kicker intot he console and see if it shows again
[01:00] <wubrgamer> jeff_: better if it's in terminal
[01:00] <HymnToLife> I would consider a PC where you can't boot Windows to be OK for me
[01:00] <jeff_> wubrgamer: ?
[01:00] <wubrgamer> jeff_: yes
[01:00] <wubrgamer> hi
[01:00] <wubrgamer> i live
[01:00] <wubrgamer> if it's in terminal even better
[01:00] <steveire> I don't like the way I can't get a wmv plugin for firefox on linux
[01:01] <Lorenzod> Hm.. still not luck with amarok?
[01:01] <jeff_> wubrgamer: just a sec, ill find the ndiswrapper howto for you
[01:01] <HolySavior>  type kicker where?
[01:01] <iNiku> HymnToLife: yeah, but it probably is not okay for the guy who wanted to "remove linux temporarily".
[01:01] <HolySavior> @ jeff
[01:01] <wubrgamer> jeff_: dude, i am SOO close, all i need it to figure out my pciid
[01:01] <HymnToLife> why would anyone want to do such a thing ?
[01:01] <iNiku> don't ask me, ask him
[01:01] <Lorenzod> And kaffeine is hosed as well.
[01:02] <HymnToLife> Oh yeah, because their laptop's panel is b0rken and they have a crappy ATI ca who can't handle displaying on an external monitor at a different resolution...
[01:02] <HolySavior> thanks jeff_
[01:02] <HymnToLife> exactly like I Do :p
[01:02] <jeff_> HolySavior: did it work?
[01:03] <wubrgamer> argah, don't need a howto i need to figure out my chips location on my machine so i can tell ndis where it it
[01:03] <wubrgamer> *is
[01:03] <wubrgamer> lol
[01:03] <HymnToLife> wubrgamer> tried lspci ?
[01:03] <jeff_> lspci will work
[01:03] <jeff_> yeah thats the one, lspci
[01:03] <wubrgamer> i'm sorry ?
[01:03] <jeff_> type lspci int eh console
[01:03] <HymnToLife> lspci for President !
[01:03] <wubrgamer> what is thaT ?
[01:04] <toni123> pls
[01:04] <wubrgamer> i get this
[01:04] <toni123> I want to remove it because in 2 weeks my fedora core arrives
[01:04] <wubrgamer> 0000:03:02.0
[01:04] <HymnToLife> !pastebin
[01:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:04] <wubrgamer> what's pastebin ?
[01:04] <HymnToLife> nevermind
[01:04] <wubrgamer> oh, i wasn't pasting that much
[01:04] <wubrgamer> geez
[01:04] <jeff_> lol i know
[01:04] <wubrgamer> i know not to put an entire flippin log int
[01:04] <HymnToLife> I thought you were going to paste the whole lspci output :p
[01:05] <wubrgamer> god no
[01:05] <jeff_> lol
[01:05] <HymnToLife> some people do
[01:05] <toni123> need to remove GRUB pls...any help?
[01:05] <steveire> toni123: You can't download FC5 yourself?
[01:05] <jeff_> preemptive obotu
[01:05] <wubrgamer> i know they have
[01:05] <wubrgamer> anyway it's cool
[01:05] <steveire> toni123: You tried using your windows cd, and that didn't help?
[01:05] <jeff_> toni123: remove it so you can go right into windows
[01:05] <jeff_> ?
[01:05] <wubrgamer> but 0000:03:02 isn't the format it wanted
[01:05] <HymnToLife> toni123> boot from Win XP CD and go to the recovery console then run fixmbr
[01:05] <jeff_> wubrgamer: dude, this is all in the ndiswrapper setup howtp
[01:06] <wubrgamer> where is it ?
[01:06] <HymnToLife> !ndiswrapper
[01:06] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[01:06] <toni123> tnx m8
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> Toni123: why not do it in 2 weeks ?
[01:07] <XP1> jeff_, i can't find skype.desktop
[01:08] <jeff_> hmm
[01:08] <toni123> because I got nervous at it
[01:08] <wubrgamer> i tried it
[01:08] <jeff_> XP1: in kcontrol, do you have "remember last session" "load new session" or "load saved session" selected?
[01:09] <davecb> im having troubles playing cds and dvds under kubuntu theres no sound at all and i also get error messages
[01:09] <XP1> checking
[01:09] <HymnToLife> davecb> in which app ?
[01:09] <davecb> all of them
[01:10] <davecb> :(
[01:10] <HymnToLife> even VLC ?
[01:10] <XP1> jeff_, where is that in kcontrol>?
[01:10] <Acidic32> hi, i installed ubuntu
[01:10] <HymnToLife> that's good :)
[01:10] <Acidic32> how do i make it kubuntu?
[01:10] <Acidic32> it, get KDE ?
[01:10] <HymnToLife> sudo apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop
[01:11] <HymnToLife> install*
[01:11] <wubrgamer> guys
[01:11] <Acidic32> ok, will that also use KDM?
[01:11] <wubrgamer> so lost
[01:11] <HymnToLife> yes
[01:11] <Acidic32> ok :)
[01:11] <Acidic32> im an old debian and freebsd user lol :>
[01:11] <HymnToLife> you can choose to keep on using GDM if you want
[01:12] <Acidic32> FreeBSD i use on my server and my workstation
[01:12] <jeff_> XP1: im not sure, type kcontrol into the command line, in the search dialog type session
[01:12] <jeff_> XP1: see if it turns up
[01:12] <Acidic32> this is my Personal desktop :)
[01:12] <XP1> k
[01:12] <HymnToLife> FreeBSD I'm downloading righ now to give it a try
[01:12] <jeff_> Acidic32: is bsd any good?
[01:12] <HymnToLife> crappy dialup...
[01:12] <Lorenzod> Hm.. no, both amarok and juk are still broken for me.. :-(
[01:12] <jeff_> HymnToLife: lol
[01:12] <Acidic32> yeah, i use freebsd all the time for programming etc
[01:12] <Acidic32> that runs KDE and XFCE4
[01:12] <XP1> jeff_, it says "on login restore previous session"
[01:12] <jeff_> ok
[01:13] <jeff_> make sure there is no trace of skype before you log out
[01:13] <XP1> ok
[01:13] <Acidic32> im just giving ubuntu ago, just to see what it is like, but i hate gnome! :)
[01:13] <jeff_> close the app, make sure the little icon is gone and kill any processes it may have in ksysguard
[01:13] <XP1> ok
[01:14] <Lorenzod> Acidic32: hate is a strong word.
[01:14] <jeff_> Acidic32: is it supported widely? large app selection?
[01:15] <HymnToLife> and the most important thing in the world, I've been wanting to know for ages
[01:15] <jeff_> Acidic32: you have the option to use kdm as default when you install it
[01:15] <HymnToLife> does it have Frozen Bubble ? :p
[01:15] <jeff_> lol
[01:15] <XP1> thanks jeff_, i am still learning more about linux (kde time time). right now on day 3
[01:15] <XP1> this time*
[01:15] <jeff_> XP1: awesome man. linux is the sh!t
[01:16] <XP1> :)
[01:16] <jeff_> XP1: tell all your firends man we are the linux army
[01:16] <XP1> :P
[01:16] <toni123> linux is very difficult to use
[01:17] <Acidic32> jeff_, kde is brilliant, you can install programs using binaries (pre compiled) or can compile from source using ports in FreeBSD
[01:17] <Acidic32> kde == FreeBSD
[01:17] <Acidic32> my bad :/ got kde on the brain
[01:19] <jeff_> lol
[01:19] <jeff_> Acidic32: are you on ubuntu now?
[01:19] <Lorenzod> Hm.. Anybody have any idea why both amarok and juk crash when I try to import my music library?
[01:20] <wubrgamer> hey jeff, what were you getting at when you said the thing said it said that in the handbook ?
[01:20] <wubrgamer> i'm so confused
[01:20] <Lorenzod> In both cases with a: *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x0879b500 ***
[01:20] <steveire> toni123: What is difficult about it?
[01:20] <jeff_> wubrgamer: just a second man, ill give you the link
[01:21] <wubrgamer> i just want to learn how to get it to realize my net card EXISTS !!!!!!!!
[01:21] <Acidic32> jeff_, yes
[01:22] <Acidic32> jeff_, i like FreeBSD with XFCE4 and KDE programs
[01:22] <Acidic32> quick and easy! :)
[01:23] <wubrgamer> actually it does
[01:23] <wubrgamer> it just doesn't start wlan0
[01:23] <wubrgamer> ARGAH i'm literally about to yank my hair out
[01:24] <steveire> flight six is not the latest dapper. I should get dapper beta 2. Is that correct?
[01:24] <Acidic32> yes, steveire
[01:25] <jeff_> Acidic32: whats the difference between freebsd and linux?
[01:26] <Acidic32> FreeBSD is based on Unix, where as linux isnt :)
[01:26] <divansantana> yes it is
[01:26] <steveire> It's unix-like
[01:26] <Acidic32> well, its based on BSD4
[01:27] <jeff_> Acidic32: im not talking about the physical differences, im talking about the things you notice
[01:27] <jeff_> Acidic32: faster/slower
[01:28] <jeff_> Acidic32: more stable/less stable
[01:28] <jeff_> Acidic32: easier/harder
[01:29] <Acidic32> jeff_, my experience is, freebsd has always been alot more stabler than linux, when running KDE/XFCE4, than Linux. Its easy if your willing to read the handbook! I dont see much in the performance stakes, apart from BSD boots quicker in my opinion!
[01:29] <davecb> why cant i play cds or dvds under kubuntu
[01:29] <Acidic32> davecb, u need libdvdcss
[01:30] <Acidic32> !dvd
[01:30] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[01:30] <HymnToLife> davecb> because you haven't installed the proper stuff
[01:30] <wubrgamer> guys i have some big issue please help !!!!!!
[01:30] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[01:30] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:30] <Acidic32> im off to bed peoples
[01:30] <wubrgamer> oh fine, makes sense, how do i make ndiswrapper realize my netcard exists ?
[01:31] <Acidic32> its like 00:30am :>
[01:31] <Acidic32> nighty
[01:31] <Lorenzod> Hm.. kdm doesn't let me log in..
[01:31] <jeff_> Acidic32: ok cool
[01:31] <Lorenzod> My .xsession-errors complains about 'no profile for user xxx'
[01:31] <Acidic32> i recommend a Net install, as opposed to downloading both cd's
[01:31] <Acidic32> :)
[01:32] <XP1> "applications to be excluded from sessions"
[01:32] <XP1> how do i add more than 1
[01:33] <Ryoga85> Acidic32: 1:33am here
[01:33] <Acidic32> right, downloading 533megs
[01:33] <Acidic32> updating to beta 2 ;)
[01:33] <Acidic32> nighty :)
[01:37] <steveire> kopete anyone use it?
[01:38] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[01:38] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[01:38] <jeff_> steveire: yeah i use kopete
[01:38] <jeff_> steveire: its smexy
[01:38] <steveire> Do you use kopete to sendsms?
[01:39] <steveire> send sms*
[01:40] <steveire> no?
[01:41] <_darksoul> How much ram does kubuntu eat while idle, with a GUI running
[01:41] <jeff_> steverie: no, never had to send an sms or tried to :/
[01:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there? i here anybody uses kmldonkey?
[01:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !kmldonkey
[01:42] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[01:42] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[01:42] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[01:42] <_darksoul> !ram
[01:42] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _darksoul
[01:42] <Ryoga85> steveire: kopete can send sms?
[01:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i dunno how to add servers to mldonkey core
[01:42] <_darksoul> !kubunturam
[01:42] <ubotu> _darksoul: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:42] <HymnToLife> !fishing
[01:42] <ubotu> methinks fishing is randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)
[01:42] <_darksoul> stuiped robots..
[01:42] <_darksoul> !steak
[01:42] <ubotu> _darksoul: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:42] <_darksoul> ehh
[01:42] <steveire> seems to have the service, but I haven't figured out how.
[01:43] <_darksoul> anyway, how much ram does kubuntu eat while idle?
[01:43] <_darksoul> !USA
[01:43] <ubotu> _darksoul: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:43] <HymnToLife> _darksoul> please don't play with the bots on the channel
[01:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can tell me how to set Servers in MLDonkey, the core used by KMLDonkey?
[01:43] <Ryoga85> oops, i forgot I uninstalled kopete *lol*
[01:44] <doml> hi folks, how can i can i get a java browser plugin that will work on amd64? (preferably in both konqueror and firefox)
[01:45] <Ryoga85> !java
[01:45] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:46] <doml> ah, thx.  it's the very last section on that page :D
[01:51] <wubrgamer> john_ thnx
[01:51] <wubrgamer> alot
[01:53] <analia> hello
[01:53] <analia> i have downloaded kubuntu 6.06 beta2
[01:54] <analia> does it has fixed the erase partition bug? someone tried it?
[01:54] <analia> or i better unplug my main hard drive before trying to install it on my old drive? :)
[01:54] <crimsun> yes, it does have it fixed. It's noted in the changelog. Read the release notes.
[01:55] <crimsun> topic, of course, if you didn't read it on the way in.
[01:55] <jeff_> analia: i used the text install. didnt have any of the problems i had with the the live cd install
[01:55] <jeff_> jeez crim
[01:56] <analia> jeff_: that's a nice tip.
[01:56] <mardock> italiani ciao
[01:56] <noteventime> analia, Bug is fixed
[01:56] <jeff_> analia: np
[01:56] <analia> crimsun: yes. i read the  changelog, but i like to have the leatest and greatest commentary from a live companion :)
[01:57] <analia> sometimes the changelog has the bugs[last-1]  and the bugs[last]  is the more terrible
[01:58] <zblach> ping?
[01:58] <analia> well. burning cd. i gonna try ubuntu after 6 years of debian stable. i tink i gonna enjoy this a lot more than the time i tried gentoo :D
[02:08] <Chris_Tucker> how do you configure K3b to have mp3 support?
[02:10] <analia> Chris_Tucker: libmad0 ?
[02:10] <analia> Chris_Tucker: at least on debian sarge, it is.
[02:10] <Chris_Tucker> well thats easy enough.. checked the forums, install k3b-mp3
[02:13] <analia> i go for install. se you later!
[02:13] <MeMeMeMeMe> hi
[02:14] <Calilasseia> \quit
[02:14] <MeMeMeMeMe> does anyone know of any utilities that can tell what my system stats?
[02:14] <MeMeMeMeMe> i want to know what my processor speed is.
[02:14] <HymnToLife> MeMeMeMeMe> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:16] <MeMeMeMeMe> which is better? an amd athlon 2800+ or a pentium 4 1.7Ghz ?
[02:17] <MeMeMeMeMe> =)
[02:17] <mardock> ciao a tutti
[02:18] <steveire> |wmv
[02:18] <steveire> !wmv
[02:18] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:19] <doml> arg stupid java, i'm still not getting the browsers to load the java plugin
[02:19] <HymnToLife> doml> same here, I gave up on this, it's useless anyway
[02:21] <doml> HymnToLife, i hope there's a solution.. I need java working so I can get on the canada revenue agency's site to track my tax return
[02:21] <HymnToLife> it seems to work for a lot of people
[02:21] <HymnToLife> but Inever could get it working, I must be dumb or something
[02:21] <doml> but a lot of people running AMD64?
[02:22] <HymnToLife> have you read the wiki pages ?
[02:22] <doml> i'm on there right now
[02:22] <doml> I just got the Blackdown package and opened it up, looked good, but still neither konqueror nor firefox would load the plugin
[02:24] <doml> someone mentioned the gcjwebplugin which I installed and konqueror actually loaded it, but then it seemed to hang trying to load applets
[02:38] <someuser> hello , is there an installer on the livecd ?
[02:38] <someuser> for kubuntu
[02:38] <someuser> on the dvd*
[02:40] <Nirvana> someuser: there should be
[02:40] <Nirvana> an icon on the desktop actually
[02:41] <Nirvana> who am I even talking to? He left!
[02:42] <bimberi> Nirvana: (s)he got answers in #ubuntu anyway :)
[02:44] <Nirvana> hehe
[02:47] <Nirvana> anyone here know anything about Java or Marauroa/Stendhal ( a game written in Java )
[02:49] <Ryoga85> but I have to shut it down now... nite all
[03:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> guys, i deleted a file by mistake in the etc/rc5.d
[03:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and now i can't uninstall mldonkey-server
[03:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to force the uninstallation of a package
[03:05] <jeff_> Tallia1Kubuntu: try sudo apt-reconfigure mldonkey-server
[03:06] <jeff_> Tallia1Kubuntu: i think that will fix it
[03:06] <jeff_> Tallia1Kubuntu: then you should be able to remove it
[03:06] <jeff_> Tallia1Kubuntu: im not sure of the exact command
[03:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dpkg-reconfigure
[03:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nope
[03:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> same as before
[03:07] <jeff_> hmm
[03:07] <jeff_> can you apt-get install mldonkey-server?
[03:08] <jeff_> lol chris tucker
[03:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nope
[03:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it is already the new version
[03:30] <TheUni> what's another dvd burning prog other than k3b? it keeps crashing on me.
[03:32] <pitapita> yo
[03:32] <pitapita> I just installed kubuntu
[03:33] <pitapita> dapper beta2
[03:33] <pitapita> and I cant open adept... it says the apt database could not be opened
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Are you sure you're running it as root?
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> Open a console and type in 'kdesu adept'
[03:34] <pitapita> using sudo apt-get install blahblah works wonderfully
[03:34] <pitapita> and adept does ask for my password before opening
[03:35] <pitapita> and its right after I provide my password to kdesu that I get this error
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm not sure, to be honest.
[03:36] <pitapita> when calling it from the console, i get:
[03:36] <pitapita> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[03:37] <pitapita> major 144 minor 3 resource 0x0...
[03:38] <pitapita> oh, found something in ubuntuforums
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, good. 'Cause I don't know what to do. :)
[03:40] <pitapita> this command fixed everything: sudo debtags update
[03:41] <pitapita> kubuntu dapper still far from ready... it's getting somehow worrysome considering theres only one month left till the final release
[03:42] <noteventime> !skim
[03:42] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[03:42] <chowells> I have other problems with adept not finding mime typs, seems that is a known problem also from the ubuntu forums
[03:42] <noteventime> !scim
[03:42] <ubotu> [scim]  Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[03:43] <XP1> !kibi
[03:43] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, XP1
[03:44] <XP1> i have slide show enabled. how come my background isn't changing?
[03:44] <Nirvana> what KDE version?
[03:45] <XP1> how do i check
[03:46] <XP1> Nirvana
[03:46] <XP1> :/
[03:55] <PaloDeQueso> For some reason after a while I can no longer access my server by it's netbios name with "smb://nameOfServer". It seems that it just doesn't report it to the router or something. No other machine does this of mine. Has anyone else experienced this?
[03:56] <scream_> Nadie aki habla espaol?
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> !es
[03:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:57] <scream_> Thanks CheeseBurgerMan
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> you're welcome.
[03:57] <scream_> thanks ubotu
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu is a bot. :)
[03:57] <ubotu> CheeseBurgerMan: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:57] <scream_> Ahh xD
[04:01] <kunjan> hello
[04:02] <kunjan> does anyone know how to get klaptop's system tray monitor to start up automatically everytime? i have it set up to start automatically in the system settings but it doesnt start up automatically
[04:04] <cfraz89> kunjan: are you using kompmgr?
[04:04] <kunjan> yes
[04:04] <cfraz89> thats the problem
[04:04] <kunjan> oo
[04:04] <kunjan> how come?
[04:04] <cfraz89> it messes up kded startup
[04:04] <cfraz89> when it redirects the windows it misses kded
[04:05] <cfraz89> but there is a hack to fix it
[04:05] <kunjan> ah interesting
[04:05] <kunjan> ok whts the hack
[04:05] <cfraz89> you need to delay its startup
[04:05] <kunjan> and how do i do that?
[04:05] <cfraz89> make a script that goes
[04:05] <cfraz89> #!/bin/sh
[04:05] <cfraz89> sleep 10
[04:05] <cfraz89> kompmgr
[04:05] <cfraz89> sorry wrong
[04:05] <kunjan> and put it in autostart?
[04:05] <cfraz89> yep
[04:06] <cfraz89> and tell kde not to use transparency
[04:06] <kunjan> got it
[04:06] <cfraz89> cool
[04:06] <kunjan> thanks!
[04:06] <cfraz89> np
[04:06] <kunjan> and while ur here...
[04:06] <cfraz89> yeah
[04:06] <kunjan> any idea how to get wireless?
[04:06] <Nirvana> !wireless
[04:06] <ubotu> methinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[04:06] <cfraz89> thats a broad question lol
[04:06] <kunjan> yea
[04:06] <kunjan> i have broadcomm
[04:07] <kunjan> and it used to work fine in ndiswrapper (on amd64)
[04:07] <cfraz89> what happens now?
[04:07] <kunjan> but i cant get it to wrok with bcm43xx module
[04:07] <cfraz89> oh
[04:07] <kunjan> can i paste something here?
[04:07] <Nirvana> no
[04:07] <cfraz89> oh dont forget to make the script executable
[04:07] <Nirvana> kubuntu.pastebin.com
[04:07] <kunjan> yup sure
[04:07] <kunjan> ok let me paste on pastebin
[04:08] <cfraz89> ok
[04:09] <kunjan> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/691549
[04:09] <kunjan> basically, it does see the card.. but doesnt want to scan it
[04:09] <Nirvana> hey, anyone know how to get Vista-ish FX on 6.06?
[04:09] <cfraz89> what kind of fx?
[04:10] <kunjan> Nirvana: not sure but u could start with crystal kwin and kompmgr
[04:10] <cfraz89> do you mean gui style, or all the fancy wobbly stuff?
[04:10] <cfraz89> i use xgl its cool
[04:10] <kunjan> i cant get it to work on amd64 yet
[04:10] <cfraz89> you get the cube and the wobblies and the expose
[04:10] <cfraz89> oh
[04:10] <kunjan> yup it sure is nice and cool
[04:11] <kunjan> cfraz89: do u know if the latest builds let u have ur own kwin decos?
[04:11] <cfraz89> no
[04:11] <cfraz89> never will
[04:11] <kunjan> why?
[04:11] <Nirvana> whereis kompmgr?
[04:11] <cfraz89> it uses its own style
[04:11] <cfraz89> Nirvana: its part of kde
[04:11] <myndmelder> How do I go about finding the path of where a program was installed?
[04:12] <Nirvana> cfraz89: and to use it?
[04:12] <cfraz89> right click on window decoration
[04:12] <cfraz89> configure window behaviour
[04:12] <cfraz89> translucency
[04:13] <cfraz89> youll need composite enabled in you xorg.conf
[04:13] <cfraz89> kunjan: sorry im not sure about the network card
[04:13] <kunjan> If you have over a 1-gig of ram beware that you need to download the driver from source and can't use the default native driver
[04:13] <kunjan> thts wht i found
[04:13] <kunjan> LOL
[04:13] <kunjan> for the network card
[04:13] <cfraz89> oh
[04:13] <kunjan> weird
[04:13] <kunjan> i just upgraded :|
[04:14] <cfraz89> hmm
[04:15] <cfraz89> you cant use ndiswrapper anymore?
[04:15] <kunjan> i can .. i dont know why i want to get this to work...
[04:15] <kunjan> i really dont know
[04:15] <cfraz89> oh ok
[04:15] <kunjan> maybe coz i can use wpa on this
[04:15] <cfraz89> sick of ndiswrapper
[04:16] <cfraz89> ah
[04:16] <kunjan> and not on ndiswrapper
[04:16] <kunjan> right?
[04:16] <cfraz89> im not sure
[04:16] <kunjan> me neither
[04:16] <kunjan> but something of that sort
[04:16] <cfraz89> have you installed the firmware?
[04:16] <kunjan> yup let me check again tho
[04:16] <cfraz89> ok
[04:17] <kunjan> ls /usr/lib/firmware/bcm43xx/
[04:17] <kunjan> does list a few files
[04:17] <cfraz89> i think so
[04:17] <cfraz89> http://www3.sympatico.ca/ferluc/Fedora/
[04:17] <cfraz89> not sure if it helps
[04:17] <cfraz89> i dont know what that fwcutter package is
[04:18] <rodrigo> hello! I just connected a 300G maxtor SATA drive to my kubuntu box. But I don't see any /dev/sd* so I'm not sure how to partition-format-mount it. Help!
[04:19] <kunjan> fwcutter gets the firmware from the drivers
[04:19] <qwarrior> hello out there I have 2 questions with Kubuntu
[04:19] <cfraz89> oh ok
[04:19] <kunjan> interesting coz this guy took it out of a 32bit driver package rather then 64 bit.. but duh its firmware
[04:19] <kunjan> doesnt matter!
[04:20] <cfraz89> yeah
[04:20] <cfraz89> hmmm
[04:20] <cfraz89> so it just worked for that guy
[04:21] <kunjan> hmm would it help if it was in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:21] <cfraz89> maybe
[04:21] <kunjan> nah doesnt
[04:21] <cfraz89> oh ok
[04:22] <qwarrior> Well here goes, loaded kubuntu, think its Breezy, when trying to config wireless, dialog box says I need to be Admin...
[04:22] <kunjan> That it works perfectly when we go to pure 4K stacks I guess. <- this is why i dont use ndis
[04:22] <cfraz89> oh ok
[04:22] <qwarrior> need to click admin button, but no button.
[04:22] <kunjan> qwarrior: u can use ur user password.. to do that
[04:22] <kunjan> qwarrior: oh
[04:22] <qwarrior> did that
[04:22] <kunjan> no button?
[04:22] <cfraz89> if there no admin button
[04:23] <qwarrior> dialog button worked in one area of networking but it bounced right back to need to be admin
[04:23] <cfraz89> try running 'kdesu systemsettings'
[04:23] <kunjan> just run "sudo kcontrol"
[04:23] <qwarrior> tks
[04:23] <kunjan> or sudo systemsettings
[04:23] <cfraz89> arent you mean to use kdesu?
[04:23] <qwarrior> run from a termina?
[04:23] <cfraz89> yeah
[04:23] <qwarrior> great
[04:23] <kunjan> yeah ... my bad
[04:23] <cfraz89> lol np
[04:23] <qwarrior> will do be back l8tr
[04:23] <kunjan> i always have a terminal open
[04:24] <kunjan> so..
[04:24] <cfraz89> i nearly always do
[04:24] <cfraz89> hmm
[04:24] <kunjan> yakuake..
[04:24] <cfraz89> sorry im stumped with the card thing
[04:24] <qwarrior> don't get me started I just started to like ur gui
[04:24] <cfraz89> yeah i should get yakuake
[04:24] <kunjan> me too
[04:24] <cfraz89> apt-get install yakuake :)
[04:24] <kunjan> i got a friends wireless working the other day... but he has intel chip
[04:24] <kunjan> i hate him
[04:24] <kunjan> ;)
[04:25] <cfraz89> lol i have intel too
[04:25] <cfraz89> my other computer's rt2500 makes so many problems though
[04:25] <kunjan> :|
[04:25] <cfraz89> hmm
[04:25] <cfraz89> sorry i really dont know
[04:25] <kunjan> its ok.. i will eventually get it working...
[04:26] <kunjan> either this or recompile with config_4k stacks and ndiswrapper i guess
[04:26] <cfraz89> yeah
[04:27] <kunjan> eh i better go do some homework now... leave this for another day
[04:27] <kunjan> thanks cfraz
[04:27] <cfraz89> np
[04:27] <cfraz89> lol same
[04:28] <kunjan> lol
[04:28] <cfraz89> i have exams for next two weeks
[04:28] <kunjan> me too
[04:28] <kunjan> damn calc 2
[04:28] <cfraz89> i should be studying
[04:28] <kunjan> well good luck to u!
[04:28] <cfraz89> you too!
[04:28] <kunjan> thanks!
[04:28] <cfraz89> np
[04:28] <cfraz89> cya!
[04:28] <kunjan> yup catch u later
[04:28] <kunjan> bye
[04:30] <qwarrior> hey there, while my system is rebooting, have one more question
[04:30] <qwarrior> has anyone reported vertical lines in the borders of the windows
[04:30] <qwarrior> window frames?
[04:34] <rodrigo> hello! I just connected a 300G maxtor SATA drive to my kubuntu box. But I don't see any /dev/sd* so I'm not sure how to partition-format-mount it. Help!
[04:45] <bipolar> Has anyone ever built something like klik that uses apt to install packages? adept is not very user friendly for installing new programs.
[04:46] <DaSkreech> I can't get adept to work
[04:48] <bipolar> DaSkreech: I just use the updater part. that works fine at least in dapper.
[05:06] <DaSkreech> ahh sudo debtags update
[05:23] <changeme> hey
[05:24] <changeme> any one there?
[05:25] <crimsun> shh. I'm trying to sleep.
[05:25] <changeme> yeah, okay iwas just testing this thing
[05:25] <changeme> geez
[05:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !xine
[05:39] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[05:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !xine
[05:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !xinerama
[05:39] <ubotu> I heard xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[05:43] <regeya> ungh.  apparently flickr is too good for konqueror.
[05:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can tell me how can i have xine woking?
[05:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i used to use mplayer.. now i am trying kmplayer
[05:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i thaught that it used mplayer as engine but it uses xine
[05:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i dunno how it works.. i tried installing xine-ui and once executed it tells me that xine is not installed....
[05:51] <_tony> is it possible to extend a partition over 2 HDDs?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> LVM?
[05:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i can play in kaffeine using xine, why can't i do the same in kmplayer???
[05:53] <c0llin> hello
[05:54] <c0llin> how do i unrar a .rar file?
[05:54] <_tony> not sure if a linux app can do it, but if you have WINE installed I would just install winRAR with WINE
[05:55] <_tony> and use that for rar files
[05:55] <_tony> thats what I did
[05:55] <_tony> lol
[05:55] <c0llin> ok
[05:55] <c0llin> thx
[05:56] <_tony> um... for some reason whenever I try to open Kate, it keeps crashing
[05:56] <_tony> how do I fix that?
[05:56] <DaSkreech> c0llin: You can apt-get unrar
[05:59] <_tony> so, if a program keeps crshing, what can you do to prevent the crash?
[05:59] <_tony> ex., my Kate won't open because it keeps crashing
[06:00] <c0llin> DaSkreech: i have unrar-free and it doesnt seem to work
[06:00] <DaSkreech> c0llin: Where did you get it from?
[06:00] <c0llin> apt-get
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:05] <ejos> KDE owns
[06:06] <MEtaLpREs> i agree
[06:23] <aman__> what is the deb command for kubuntu ?
[06:24] <noiesmo> aman__, do you mean dpkg -i blah.deb this will install the blah.deb package
[06:25] <noiesmo> aman__, you will need sudo command also or sudo apt-get install blah or sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[06:32] <aman__> noiesmo: -i blah.deb can be a url too ?
[06:35] <noiesmo> aman__, not sure what you mean sorry
[06:36] <aman__> noiesmo:i'm new, i need this :deb ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/smb4k/unsupported/Kubuntu/breezy/ ./
[06:37] <aman__> noiesmo: i need to install smb4k, their download url says to use this command to get it for kubuntu.
[06:37] <noiesmo> ok you add this to the /etc/apt/sources.list then
[06:37] <noiesmo> sudo apt-get update
[06:37] <noiesmo> then you can do sudo apt-get install appname
[06:38] <noiesmo> then you can do sudo apt-get install smb4k
[06:38] <aman__> noiesmo: thanks, trying.
[06:38] <noiesmo> dont put in :
[06:38] <noiesmo> just deb ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/smb4k/unsupported/Kubuntu/breezy/ ./
[06:39] <aman__> noiesmo: ok.
[06:43] <aman__> noiesmo: success!! Thanks again. Its really a great experience-- here and kubuntu.
[06:43] <noiesmo> np :)
[06:44] <aman__> Oh, another thing, when i insert my perndrive konqueror says error, unable to find /media/sda1, any suggestion ?
[06:45] <noiesmo> not sure  when the pens in do df -h see whats listed
[06:46] <noiesmo> df -h will list all mount partitions
[06:46] <Hobbsee> so will mount
[06:46] <aman__> it has the entry: /dev/sda1
[06:46] <noiesmo> wheres its mount then
[06:47] <aman__> /dev/sda1             122M   95M   28M  78% /media/PENDRIVE
[06:47] <noiesmo> aman__, well its /media/PENDRIVE not sda1 thats the prob
[06:48] <aman__> hmmm...i got by going /media/PENDRIVE,
[06:48] <noiesmo> default is sda1 did you change anything in fstab or do you have sata drives
[06:48] <aman__> how can i say konqueror to use /media/PENDRIVE insteas of /media/sda1 ?
[06:48] <noiesmo> not sure sorry
[06:49] <noiesmo> Hobbsee, do you know ^^
[06:49] <aman__> noiesmo: np:-)
[06:50] <Hobbsee> er...
[06:50] <Hobbsee> aman__: where'd you specify /media/PENDRIVE?  the fstab?
[06:51] <aman__> No, i installed kubuntu just few hours ago and i am new.
[06:51] <Hobbsee> ah okay
[06:51] <Hobbsee> i dont know either, sorry...
[06:52] <noiesmo> yes its odd mine just uses sda1
[06:54] <aman__> is there any menu updater tool installed in kubuntu ?
[06:56] <NeoChaosX> it's kmenuedit
[06:56] <NeoChaosX> just right click on any of the K menu entries, you should get an option to edit them
[06:56] <noiesmo> it should update automatically if not after restart things are normally sorted or add manually kmenuedit
[06:57] <aman__> got it !!
[07:24] <MEtaLpREs> where are all the system icons stored? i want to modify some of them
[07:25] <Hobbsee> locate png
[07:25] <noiesmo> /usr/share/icons
[07:25] <Hobbsee> yes, that's it...
[07:25] <Hobbsee> mental blank there...
[07:26] <noiesmo> ;)
[07:27] <MEtaLpREs> cool thanks
[08:03] <r0b> hi im on a fresh install of dapper, and everytime i run any program from console, i get a couple of errors which start with "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"
[08:03] <dell500> is it possible to connect a SATA drive (300gb) onto the mobo, partition it in ubuntu, then backup x files, then take that SATA drive out, and put it into a SATA->USB enclosure and it will still work?
[08:19] <myndmelder> I can't get Amarok to play anything from Streamtuner, nor any mp3's... I installed all the codecs that were needed...
[08:20] <matyi> hello
[08:20] <myndmelder> Hi
[08:20] <matyi> van valakMagyar?
[08:21] <word> Hi uh...I'm editting my K menu.and after saving it isn't updating...do I have to restart K or restart the computer for it to update?
[08:22] <Hobbsee> word: if you hit the little save icon, it should save..
[08:22] <Hobbsee> try restarting x, not the whole computer...
[08:25] <cc-dash> myndmelder: look t this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp3#head-a57167a3ce442dc52d9b05e46a14503330d4e970
[08:27] <cc-dash> did you installed   libxine-extracodecs?
[08:33] <mrfishhat> Has anyone had any luck with a multimedia keyboard?
[08:37] <myndmelder> I got disconected... Anyways... I cannot seem to get amarok to play mp3's. I downloaded all the necessary codecs (if I folowed the forums and wiki correctly), but still no dice. Any advice?
[08:39] <cfraz89> mynmelder: the trick is one of the xine packages
[08:40] <cfraz89> make sure you have libexine-extracodecs
[08:40] <cfraz89> and libakode2-mpeg
[08:40] <cfraz89> also maybe libmad0
[08:41] <MEtaLpREs> so how stable is dapper so far? is it worth upgrading and then upgrading again when the final is released or should i just wait till the final?
[08:41] <cfraz89> well if you upgrade to dapper now it wont be hard to update to the final release
[08:41] <cfraz89> if you have broadband
[08:41] <cfraz89> its fairly stable
[08:42] <cfraz89> but i dont like the move to cups 1.2
[08:42] <cfraz89> has been nothing but trouble for me
[08:42] <MEtaLpREs> i dont use a printer so wont really bother me
[08:42] <cfraz89> i guess you should go for it then
[08:42] <cfraz89> upgrading to final will only be an apt-get dist-upgrade away anyway
[08:44] <myndmelder> cfraz89: I must be missing a repository because it isn't showing up in adept...
[08:45] <cfraz89> oh
[08:45] <cfraz89> you have universe and multiverse?
[08:46] <myndmelder> I have one multiverse...
[08:46] <myndmelder> I think I am missing something...
[08:47] <cc-dash> MEtaLpREs: i've installed dapper because breezy didn't like my hardware :-( i've no probs with dapper, printing with cups 1.2 also works
[08:51] <mrfishhat> do you know if dapper has any multimedia keyboard support?
[08:52] <cfraz89> only as far as kmilo goes i think
[08:52] <mrfishhat> hmm
[08:53] <cfraz89> actually i dont know
[08:54] <cfraz89> my laptop has a few multimedia buttons on the side
[08:54] <cfraz89> i just checked
[08:54] <cfraz89> and they send key events in xev
[08:54] <mrfishhat> i know they send evets
[08:55] <mrfishhat> i just dont know how to bind them.
[08:55] <mrfishhat> because i am teh n00b
[08:57] <cfraz89> xbindkeys i think
[08:57] <cc-dash> i don't have multimedia keys, so i don't know if it works. i think xbindkeys should work ...
[08:58] <mrfishhat> ill give it a try
[08:58] <mrfishhat> ah
[08:58] <mrfishhat> command not found
[08:59] <cc-dash> you have to download it ;-)
[08:59] <mrfishhat> ah.
[08:59] <mrfishhat> that explains a lot.
[09:02] <cc-dash> --> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/xbindkeys
[09:03] <mrfishhat> the i386 should work?
[09:03] <cc-dash> ooops, sorry, you can directly install it with synaptic ...
[09:04] <mrfishhat> ah
[09:04] <mrfishhat> well
[09:04] <mrfishhat> ill do that then
[09:11] <myndmelder> cfraz89 I got it to work by changing the settings from gstreamer to xine... Does this mean I can delete gstramer from my computer or do I need it?
[09:12] <myndmelder> cfraz89 I got it to work by changing the settings from gstreamer to xine... Does this mean I can delete gstramer from my computer or do I need it? the other problem I still have is that it won't play anything from streamtuner... Any advice on that one?
[09:12] <myndmelder> What the... Sorry for the weird double post...
[09:29] <FearMoth> i'm using kubuntu dapper, and when I try to install lirc make stops with the error "The present kernel configuration has modules disabled. Type 'make config' and enable loadable module support. Then build a kernel with module support enabled." .. when I run "lsmod" it lists loaded modules. what could be wrong?
[09:40] <jorge_> hello
[09:41] <jorge_> somebody here?
[09:41] <DeadS0ul> I guess there are
[09:41] <jorge_> hi
[09:42] <jorge_> do you know how to make one program to autostart when you login?
[09:42] <DeadS0ul> yeap in put a  link in ~/,kde/autostart
[09:43] <jorge_> ahh, ok....
[09:43] <jorge_> but, i remember something visual in kde settings
[09:44] <DeadS0ul> for autostart
[09:44] <DeadS0ul> ?
[09:44] <jorge_> yes
[09:44] <stargater> hi
[09:44] <DeadS0ul> usually if you leave a program on when you log outta kde, it'll remember your last session .
[09:44] <jorge_> hi
[09:44] <DeadS0ul> and start those programs automatically
[09:45] <jorge_> ahh, ok...
[09:45] <jorge_> so it read
[09:45] <jorge_> that file allways?
[09:56] <stargater> where can fin the KDE apps in / ?
[09:57] <stargater> or the settings app from KDE , im login as root (sudo -s)
[10:01] <kosh> stargater: not sure what you are trying to do
[10:01] <kosh> stargater: settings for kde apps are user specific and stored in your home directory and you would usually use kcontrol to set them
[10:02] <stargater> kosh:  i will auto user login set
[10:02] <stargater> i will open as root the settings app in KDE
[10:02] <stargater> but i found the KDE folder in /
[10:03] <stargater>  /opt is empty
[10:03] <kosh> kde apps are all over in /usr/bin
[10:03] <kosh> you do not want to play with any of that stuff directly
[10:04] <kosh> that is a good way to break the system, also none of the settings are in there
[10:05] <kosh> what you need to do is login to kde and run kcontrol -> system administration -> login manager -> convenience
[10:05] <kosh> and then click on administrator mode
[10:06] <stargater> ahh   /usr/share/apps/
[10:07] <kosh> don't change those settings manually
[10:07] <kosh> you are very likely to screw your system up
[10:18] <stargater> reboot
[10:22] <stargater> re
[10:24] <vinboy> hi
[10:24] <vinboy> xine can play my divx video but kaffeine can't
[10:24] <vinboy> kaffeine only play the sound
[10:43] <kosh> vinboy: tell kaffeine to use xine
[11:04] <vinboy> how do I set kaffeine to "always on top"?
[11:17] <toni321> hi huys
[11:17] <toni321> I am using QEMU to install kubuntu
[11:18] <toni321> but it stops...any help?
[11:18] <saaida> Damn firefox Eat's up the memory
[11:18] <saaida> opera is much more memory friendly
[11:19] <menghsiu> is 6.06 steady enough now ?
[11:20] <leeghoofd> !gcc
[11:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:21] <leeghoofd> is build-essential the package to do c developping?
[11:22] <toni321> I am using QEMU...my installation stops at "scanning pnp cards"...any help pls? - tnx
[11:23] <toni321>  I am using QEMU...my installation stops at "scanning for pnp cards"..and later says "try to enable buffer something"..any help pls??? - tnx
[11:26] <toni321>  I am using QEMU...my installation stops at "scanning for pnp cards"..and later says "try to enable buffer something"..any help pls??? - tnx
[11:28] <toni321>  I am using QEMU to install LINUX...my installation stops at "scanning for pnp cards"..and later says "try to enable buffer something"..any help pls??? - tnx
[11:30] <toni321> Does anyone know how to use QEMU here?
[11:35] <Neo62> bonjour a tous
[11:35] <toni321> I have problems installing KUBUNTU...any help pls?
[11:37] <Neo62> voila j'ai t sous Mandriva et la je viens de metter Kubuntu et je voulais savoir comme on fais les mise a jours
[11:37] <Neo62> ??
[11:37] <Neo62> ??
[11:37] <danimo> Tonio_: don't ask if you can ask, just ask
[11:38] <danimo> Neo62: this is an english-speaking channel, sorry
[11:38] <Neo62> oh ok
[11:38] <Tonio_> danimo: ? ;)
[11:38] <cfraz89> vinboy: right click on its window decoration
[11:38] <cfraz89> and go to advanced
[11:38] <danimo> Tonio_: upps :)
[11:38] <cfraz89> keep above others
[11:38] <danimo> I mean toni321
[11:38] <danimo> Tonio_: damn completion :)
[11:38] <Tonio_> Neo62: #kubuntu-fr english here plz ;)
[11:38] <Neo62> ok
[11:38] <Tonio_> danimo: hehe ;)
[11:38] <Neo62> thx
[11:39] <Tonio_> Neo62: your servant
[11:39] <Neo62> +++
[11:40] <toni321> My installation in KUBUNTU stops at "scanning for pnp cards"..and later says "try to enable buffer something"..any help pls??? - tnx
[11:41] <saaida> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera: ---------------------------> anyone familiar with this error when trying to install opera ?
[11:45] <toni321> !
[11:45] <ubotu> toni321: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:46] <toni321> !pnp
[11:46] <ubotu> toni321: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:46] <toni321> What are pnp cards pls?
[11:47] <toni321> What are pnp cards pls?
[11:48] <saaida> someone please help me installing opera in ' xubuntu '
[11:49] <toni321> xubuntu? lol
[11:49] <saaida> yeah
[11:53] <gduma> Hi
[11:53] <toni321> is this a modofoed kubuntu?
[11:53] <uniq> saaida: what's the error?
[11:54] <uniq> please post it to: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[11:55] <saaida> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/691918
[11:55] <iNiku> has anybody managed to get a Cisco Aironet 350 PCMCIA wireless card to work in dapper?
[11:55] <saaida> uniq : http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/691918
[11:55] <uniq> ok.
[11:56] <iNiku> mine worked fine in breezy and everything looks fine in dapper, but it just won't communicate
[11:56] <saaida> mine is not even installing
[11:56] <saaida> :*
[11:57] <uniq> saaida: try to choose the 'Other/static DEB' while downloading opera.
[11:57] <uniq> the .deb you're tryting to install is buildt for debian etch.
[11:58] <gduma> Need some help to konfigure my WPA encryption with Kubuntu
 : i downloaded the ubuntu .deb
[11:58] <gduma> anyone feels brave enough to help a noob??? ;)
[12:00] <gduma> ?
[12:00] <morrow> did anyone succeed in running 1600x1200 via DVI with radeon drivers?
[12:01] <gduma> d
[12:03] <_truthseek> hi@ll
[12:04] <gduma> how can i tell konqueror which NIC to use as gateway?
[12:05] <gduma> Konversation works know via WLAN, the rest of my stupid system seems to think i am off-line...?
[12:08] <zmo> gduma: let's start by pinging a host: 'ping google.com' from konsole
[12:10] <gduma> i tried, won't do. it#s really strange. i disabled my WPA encrytion, the NIC were restarted by the application, i debranched the ethernet cable, i can still chat with you but console says Unknown host...????
[12:10] <uniq> saaida: go to opera.com download the Other/Static/DEB.
[12:11] <gduma> my neighbours probably are having i nice free surf while i try to fix this stuff
[12:11] <gduma> :)
[12:11] <zmo> gduma: so probably a dns problem can you ping 72.14.207.99?
[12:11] <saaida> uniq : no need it worked now
[12:11] <uniq> gduma: try to ping a IP then. I would guess you have a nameserver problem. for example 82.211.81.166
[12:12] <uniq> .. or just do as zmo says :)
[12:12] <uniq> saaida: great :)
[12:13] <gduma> no, i just realized that i tries to use the ethernet card as gateway, ie ping only uses this card. how can i change this.
[12:13] <gduma> ?
[12:14] <zmo> goto system settings->network settings->administrator mode...
[12:14] <gduma> ah, you are right
[12:14] <gduma> using the IP works
[12:15] <gduma> so where do i configure the dns?
[12:15] <gduma> network settings as well?
[12:15] <zmo> gduma: you prefer konsole or system settings?
[12:16] <gduma> konsole, there i see what i do
[12:16] <zmo> gduma: first check out your current dns config: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:17] <gduma> ok
[12:17] <gduma> says: nameserver 192.168.7.1
[12:17] <gduma> that's my router / dsl modem
[12:18] <zmo> gduma: ok and what is your default gateway: route -n ?
[12:19] <gduma> Kernel IP routing table
[12:19] <gduma> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[12:19] <gduma> 192.168.7.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[12:19] <gduma> 192.168.7.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1
[12:19] <gduma> 0.0.0.0         192.168.7.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth1
[12:19] <gduma> 0.0.0.0         192.168.7.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[12:19] <nico8481> hi
[12:19] <gduma> eth1 is the WLAN NIC
[12:19] <zmo> gduma: eth1 is your wireless nic?
[12:19] <zmo> :-)
[12:21] <_truthseek> I have a problem with kde, in some application (like synaptic terminal) I get very small text chars, I've already changed the fonts in kde preferences menu but they're still small
[12:22] <zmo> gduma: did you try do bring your wireless nic down? ifdown eth1 or ifconfig eth1 down
[12:23] <gduma> if i do so, we can't chat any longer, Konversation  seems to be the only tools that accepted the new setting.
[12:24] <zmo> gduma: isn't it strange the neigbour's wireless ap has the same ip as your router?
[12:24] <zmo> gduma: or did you configure both :-)
[12:25] <zmo> gduma: what's your eth0 and eth1 ip? ifconfig
[12:26] <gduma> yes i did. i first needed the ETH0 to access the WLan Access Point to disable WPA, then i enabled the ETH1 and when i disabled ETH0 only konversation, which was already running continued to work
[12:26] <gduma> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:40:45:21:00:4B
[12:27] <gduma>           inet addr:192.168.7.24  Bcast:192.168.7.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[12:27] <gduma>           inet6 addr: fe80::240:45ff:fe21:4b/64 Scope:Link
[12:27] <gduma>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[12:27] <gduma>           RX packets:750 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[12:27] <gduma>           TX packets:819 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[12:27] <gduma>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[12:27] <gduma>           RX bytes:427992 (417.9 KiB)  TX bytes:91712 (89.5 KiB)
[12:27] <gduma>           Interrupt:209 Base address:0x4c00
[12:27] <gduma> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0E:35:2A:65:03
[12:27] <gduma>           inet addr:192.168.7.21  Bcast:192.168.7.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[12:27] <gduma>           inet6 addr: fe80::20e:35ff:fe2a:6503/64 Scope:Link
[12:27] <gduma>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[12:27] <gduma>           RX packets:2099 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[12:27] <gduma>           TX packets:951 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1
[12:27] <gduma>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[12:28] <gduma>           RX bytes:1719897 (1.6 MiB)  TX bytes:63565 (62.0 KiB)
[12:28] <gduma>           Interrupt:185 Base address:0x2000 Memory:ff7fd000-ff7fdfff
[12:28] <gduma> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[12:28] <gduma>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[12:28] <gduma>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[12:28] <gduma>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[12:28] <gduma>           RX packets:96 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[12:28] <gduma>           TX packets:96 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[12:28] <gduma>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[12:28] <gduma>           RX bytes:8367 (8.1 KiB)  TX bytes:8367 (8.1 KiB)
[12:28] <gduma> both are configured via dhcp. I wonder if i change the ip of eth0 to another subnet, maybe that will fix the problem
[12:29] <CaNsA> my hdd is partitioned into three, c,d,e. winxp is the original o/s which is on d. im and emptying c to install kubuntu on it.
[12:29] <uniq> oh. gduma please DON'T do that again.
[12:29] <zmo> gduma: next time use pastebin
[12:29] <CaNsA> lol
[12:29] <zmo> !pastebin
[12:29] <uniq> use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com for this
[12:29] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[12:30] <CaNsA> is there anything i gtta watch for so that i dont screw my winxp install?
[12:30] <gduma> ok.
[12:30] <uniq> thanks :)
[12:30] <zmo> gduma: first try this: sudo route del default gw dev eth0
[12:30] <kosh> I thought that windows xp came pre screwed ;)
[12:30] <CaNsA> lol
[12:30] <CaNsA> i think so too
[12:31] <CaNsA> but i use it for work
[12:31] <gduma> ok did that console says:dev: Unknown host
[12:31] <CaNsA> it wont screw up the booting will it?
[12:32] <CaNsA> cos c is the winxp system drive
[12:32] <CaNsA> even though winxp is on d
[12:32] <CaNsA> if u get what i mean
[12:32] <kosh> I don't realy know what it will do exactly
[12:32] <kosh> I have not done a kubuntu install on a system that had a previous os on it that needed to remain intact
[12:32] <zmo> gduma: try sudo route del default gw 192.168.7.1 dev eth0
[12:32] <kosh> however I am going to wander off for a while
[12:33] <CaNsA> kk
[12:33] <gduma> ok worked fine
[12:33] <CaNsA> cheers
[12:33] <zmo> gduma: now can you resolve names: ping google.com?
[12:34] <gduma> no, still unknown host
[12:34] <_thumper_> I'm currently on Breezy, and thought it was about time to upgrade to Dapper
[12:34] <_thumper_> Went through sources.list and changed breezy to dapper
[12:34] <_thumper_> commented out some of the extras I had
[12:34] <_thumper_> However when I went to use adept to upgrade
[12:34] <zmo> gduma: can you still ping 72.14.207.99 ?
[12:34] <_thumper_> selected full upgrade and previewed changes
[12:35] <_thumper_> and saw that it wanted to uninstall 200 odd packages including kdebase and adept
[12:35] <_thumper_> wtf?
[12:35] <uniq> _thumper_: it'll upgrade the packages. goahead. it's perfectly normal.
[12:35] <_thumper_> uniq: even though it says it's going to remove them?
[12:35] <uniq> oh.. uninstall.
[12:35] <cfraz89> it might help to install kubuntu-desktop aswell before you upgrade
[12:36] <cfraz89> i think itll give kde priority
[12:36] <_thumper_> I'll just start adept again and see the status of kubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <gduma> yes, does the tracert command exit ?
[12:36] <cfraz89> k
[12:36] <zmo> gduma: yeah it's called traceroute
[12:37] <_thumper_> I see that kubuntu-desktop is not installed
[12:37] <zmo> gduma: i think you have to apt-get it first...
[12:37] <_thumper_> I have grabbed the updates for the dapper repositories
[12:37] <_thumper_> If I try to install kubuntu-desktop now will it stuff things up?
[12:38] <_thumper_> Should I do it as part of the dist-upgrade?
[12:38] <zmo> gduma: try to refresh your ip lease for your eth1 device: sudo dhclient eth1
[12:38] <zmo> gduma: and then check your resolv.conf: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:39] <cfraz89> it should be ok to get it from dapper
[12:40] <cfraz89> try installing kubuntu-desktop from dapper and preview it
[12:40] <gduma> ok still have the same entry, my router / nameserver is in resolv.conf, the new lease command produced this line : bound to 192.168.7.21 -- renewal in 376872 seconds.
[12:40] <_thumper_> cfraz89: it says BREAK...
[12:40] <gduma> won't paste al
[12:41] <gduma> :)
[12:41] <_thumper_> If I select kubuntu-desktop as well as the full upgrade it still wants to remove 201 packages
[12:41] <zmo> gduma: maybe your neigbour's router isn't proxying dns requests
[12:41] <_thumper_> kdebase to remove, but kdebase-bin and kdebase-data still there ???
[12:41] <zmo> gduma: do you have admin access to the ap?
[12:42] <cfraz89> hmmm
[12:42] <cfraz89> try going back to breezy sources
[12:42] <cfraz89> install kubuntu-desktop
[12:42] <cfraz89> then dapper
[12:42] <gduma> yes, it's my network
[12:43] <_truthseek> having trouble with eclipse and phpeclipse: installed the version from synaptic
[12:43] <xst> I am trying to install kubuntu with the installer from beta2 but after it formatted my partitions (from the manual partition step) it does NOT continue from step 6. What to do?
[12:43] <_thumper_> cfraz89: if I do the apt-get update after changing sources back, does that overwrite what it received from dapper?
[12:43] <_truthseek> but when help->software updates->find and install I get the error: Error creating feature "file:/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.pde.source_3.1.1/". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.pde.source_3.1.1/feature.xml (No such file or directory)] 
[12:43] <cfraz89> yep
[12:44] <_thumper_> cool - I'll try that
[12:44] <cfraz89> okie
[12:44] <_truthseek> and if a create the dir and the xml file it's still doesn't work because it's an empty xml file..
[12:45] <gduma> I will try to reboot the system, maybe some configs will be written only when Dapper reboots
[12:45] <gduma> I'll be back
[12:45] <gduma> thanks for your help
[12:45] <zmo> gduma: yw
[12:45] <_thumper_> cfraz89: choosing just kubuntu-desktop from breezy repos says BREAK on install
[12:46] <_thumper_> however it is the only thing to get installed
[12:46] <_thumper_> nothing upgraded or removed?
[12:46] <_thumper_> is it just confused?
[12:46] <cfraz89> ohhh
[12:46] <cfraz89> i really dont know
[12:46] <cfraz89> try it from a terminal
[12:46] <cfraz89> see what it says
[12:47] <xst> Are there some other installer on the desktop CD than the quite buggy new one?
[12:48] <_thumper_> cfraz89: says depends on akode but it is not going to be installed
[12:48] <_truthseek> incredible.. now it seems to work..
[12:49] <cfraz89> oh
[12:49] <cfraz89> try installing akode
[12:49] <_truthseek> and I've not done anything lol
[12:51] <_thumper_> cfraz89: done that, it removed 4 and installed 1, then added kubuntu-desktop, installed ok
[12:51] <_thumper_> I'll try the dapper repos again now...
[12:53] <cfraz89> cool
[12:54] <_thumper_> Ah, bugger - still trying to remove most of KDE - however I've got to go and do some real world work now...
[12:54] <_thumper_> back to it later
[12:58] <xst> Actually, even if I do not format the partitions, the installer does not continue from step 6. Any ideas?
[12:59] <steveire> I can't connect to 127.0.0.1. How do I check the state of my apache server?
[01:00] <apokryphos> steveire: go to localhost in a browser
[01:00] <zmo> steveire: sudo netstat -wutanp
[01:01] <steveire> apokryphos: Yes, it's timing out.
[01:01] <apokryphos> steveire: view your access and error log then
[01:01] <apokryphos> steveire: does the server itself start up?
[01:01] <apokryphos> steveire: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:05] <steveire> still nothing: http://pastebin.com/692010
[01:06] <apokryphos> wait, why can't you connect to 127.0.0.1? :/
[01:06] <zmo> steveire: apache2 isn't listening on your loopback interface
[01:07] <zmo> steveire: try your ip
[01:08] <steveire> zmo: also nothing
[01:08] <steveire> there's some config file I can change isn't there?
[01:09] <zmo> zmo: yeah /etc/apache2/
[01:09] <zmo> steveire: you're not running a firewall?
[01:10] <steveire> nope
[01:11] <zmo> steveire: can you connect with netcat? nc -vv <ip> 80
[01:11] <steveire> I just checked ports.conf. It says listen 80
[01:11] <steveire> I'll try now
[01:13] <zmo> steveire: once connected type: GET /HTTP/1.1 and hit enter twice
[01:14] <steveire> 86.42.131.106: inverse host lookup failed: Unknown host
[01:15] <zmo> zmo: connection refused?
[01:16] <steveire> yes.
[01:17] <zmo> steveire: errr i just tried your ip and there's a website running
[01:17] <zmo> steveire: Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) PHP/4.4.0-3 Server at 86.42.131.106 Port 80
[01:17] <jpatrick> groovy
[01:18] <jpatrick> steveire: same here
[01:18] <steveire> I type it in firefox and get nohing
[01:19] <steveire> what about now?
[01:20] <jpatrick> steveire: same
[01:21] <jpatrick> I see an EngWiki
[01:21] <zmo> steveire: add Listen 127.0.0.1 to your apache2.conf
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> Some routers don't allow connections from the trusted interface to the trusted
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> Some routers don't allow connections from the trusted interface to the untrusted sorry
[01:23] <steveire> bizarre. What do you see when you connect to me?
[01:24] <zmo> steveire: http://pastebin.com/692028
[01:25] <n3storm> hi everyone
[01:25] <n3storm> I have installed Tango Icon Theme
[01:25] <steveire> It doesn't make any sense that I can't see that.
[01:25] <n3storm> but SVG icons doesn't look nice
[01:26] <steveire> I added that listen command to ports.conf. nothing.
[01:27] <gringo> hi there. can anybody tell me how to get my wifi connection working? the wpa_supplicant is driving me crazy :(
[01:27] <n3storm> Do I have to patch kdelibs and kdebase in order to see that?
[01:28] <zmo> steveire: you're ports.conf should contain 'Listen 127.0.0.1:80'
[01:28] <zmo> s/you're/your
[01:28] <steveire> yeah, that's what it has now.
[01:28] <zmo> steveire: did you restart apache2 service?
[01:29] <h3sp4wn> gringo: post your wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:29] <steveire> I tried
[01:29] <zmo> steveire: still no 127.0.0.1 on port 80  in netstat -wutanp ?
[01:29] <steveire> http://pastebin.com/692036
[01:30] <gringo> yes i'll but first I have to get a larger LAN Cable cause I am sitting in the floor :D brb
[01:31] <steveire> still nothing like that, no
[01:32] <n3storm> Anybody here is using Tango Icon Theme with kubuntu 5.10 and kde 3.5.2?
[01:33] <n3storm> My tango icons look rough and gradients look ugly
[01:35] <steveire> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166735&highlight=pppoe <<< I'm also having this issue. Is there any way they could be linked?
[01:36] <saaida> i have a new problem . i can't use apt-get anymore . cause when i try to do so it tell me to run apt-get -f install . but when i do run -f install. it tell me to remove opera  :) .... how i can fix this without running opera ( opera is working for me )
[01:37] <cfraz89> maybe you should copy all the opera files
[01:37] <cfraz89> remove opera
[01:37] <cfraz89> and than copy them back
[01:37] <cfraz89> a little cheap though
[01:43] <zmo> steveire: i can't reproduce your problem on my machine. you're probably right that it is somehow linked to your pppoe setup...
[01:44] <shadowfox> anybody know how to change the konsole font? the letter 'c' and 'm' kinda runs together making it hard to read
[01:45] <zmo> shadowfox: system settings -> appearance -> fonts -> fixed width font
[01:49] <shadowfox> zmo: that's it! i've been changing the non-fixed-width font
[01:49] <remon> does anyone perhaps used the beta2 live cd ?
[01:49] <remon> it didnt' setup my screen :(
[01:49] <remon> I wonder where I can put a bug report for that, it's pretty important to have something visible on your screen :-)
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> remon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[01:50] <remon> LeeJunFan: thanks
[01:51] <jugjit>  Hello
[01:51] <jugjit>  Can anyone give me some advice on the matter of external USB devices?
[01:54] <jugjit>  I ama newbie I just have some files on a USB pen and I wish to be able to see them and use them.
[01:55] <jugjit>  The files are Word docs and some jpegs, but I wish to see some of the Word docs in OpenOffice2
[01:55] <jugjit>  Don't how to do it.
[01:57] <remon> jugjit: plug the usb pen into an usb port
[01:57] <remon> kde then shows you a dialog, and places an icon on the desktop
[02:04] <gringo> back again
[02:05] <gringo> so here is my wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:05] <gringo> ssid="Gringo"
[02:05] <gringo>         #psk="ble48u3ieb0exoeprlespiudl0stla4leciufroubroa0lek0u36achleciasou"
[02:05] <gringo>         psk=3eb58bbfbe659e64f217d90195c95b5b6b3067c95ba3d993384e3a636ed94a77
[02:05] <gringo> grr
[02:05] <gringo> ---- begin here
[02:06] <gringo> i'll load it up
[02:07] <gringo> http://dergringo.ch/wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:08] <gringo> http://dergringo.ch/interfaces
[02:09] <gringo> anyone can help me? wpa isn't working :(
[02:10] <gringo> the problem is that i dont get a DHCP offer
[02:10] <gringo> it's working with windows xp
[02:11] <zmo> gringo: is wpa_supplicant enabled in /etc/default/wpasupplicant ?
[02:11] <gringo> zmo: ? i don't understand... never touched this file
[02:11] <gringo> let me see
[02:12] <gringo> zmo: there is no such file in /etc/default
[02:13] <zmo> gringo: it's a folder /etc/default
[02:13] <zmo> gringo: wpasupplicant is a file in /etc/default
[02:14] <gringo> gringo@gringo2:/etc/default$ ls
[02:14] <gringo> acpid         alsa  bluez-utils  cdrecord  dbus    hal   hplip                            lvm-common  ntpdate        pcmcia  rcS    rsync  useradd
[02:14] <gringo> acpi-support  apmd  bootlogd     cupsys    devpts  halt  linux-restricted-modules-common  mdadm       nvidia-kernel  pmi     rscsi  tmpfs
[02:15] <gringo> there is no file 'wpasupplicant'
[02:15] <zmo> gringo: you're running breezy right?
[02:15] <gringo> no dd beta2 :D
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> gringo: hash out eapol_version=1 and group=TKIP and change group to group=TKIP , what card are you using ?
[02:16] <zmo> zmo: hmmm i don't have a dapper box here right now
[02:16] <gringo> i have intel centrino
[02:16] <gringo> oh i'll do the changes 1mom
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> gringo: is the wireless card eth1 ?
[02:17] <gringo> h3sp4wn: no wlan is eth0
[02:18] <richips> why not, gringo? these are just aliases
[02:18] <richips> simple nicknames
[02:19] <h3sp4wn> gringo: you want to run "wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -d -Dipw" - from a terminal to see what is going on
[02:20] <gringo> h3sp4wn:
[02:20] <gringo> Line 7: invalid key_mgmt 'WPA_PSK'
[02:20] <gringo> Line 7: no key_mgmt values configured.
[02:20] <gringo> Line 7: failed to parse key_mgmt 'WPA_PSK'.
[02:20] <gringo> Line 9: invalid cipher 'TKIPCCMP'.
[02:20] <gringo> Line 9: failed to parse group 'TKIPCCMP'.
[02:20] <gringo> Line 12: removed CCMP from group cipher list since it was not allowed for pairwi                                                                                                   se cipher
[02:20] <gringo> Oo
[02:21] <gringo> damn
[02:21] <jpatrick> gringo: please use pastebin
[02:21] <jpatrick> !pastebin
[02:21] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[02:21] <gringo> oh ok, im sorry i'll use pastebin
[02:22] <jugjit>  I have plugged my USB pen into a USB hub, which is connected to my machine.
[02:23] <jugjit>  unfortunately I cannot see the device in /media, any ideas?
[02:23] <gringo> h3sp4wn: so here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13203
[02:23] <h3sp4wn> gringo: try using http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13204 as your wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:23] <zmo> jugjit: type dmesg in a console
[02:24] <h3sp4wn> gringo: and running the other line again
[02:24] <zmo> jugjit: do you see any usb related messages there?
[02:25] <jugjit>  I see the USb messages
[02:26] <jugjit>  zmo 'usb-storage : scan device complete'
[02:27] <zmo> jugjit: enter the command mount without any options...what do you see?
[02:28] <gringo> h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13205
[02:29] <jugjit>  zmo it is initialised USnb mass storage device and it seems regsitered it.
[02:30] <jugjit> [4294760.549000]  Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[02:30] <jugjit> [4294760.552000]  scsi8 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[02:30] <jugjit> [4294760.553000]  usb-storage: device found at 3
[02:30] <jugjit> [4294760.553000]  usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[02:30] <jugjit> [4294760.553000]  usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
[02:30] <jugjit> [4294760.553000]  USB Mass Storage support registered.
[02:30] <jugjit> [4294765.553000]    Vendor: I0MEGA    Model: UMni256MB*IOM2H4  Rev: 2.00
[02:30] <jugjit> [4294765.553000]    Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision
[02:30] <jpatrick> !pastebin
[02:30] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> gringo: add scan_ssid=1 and try adding your key in plain text psk="whateverkeyis" hash out the encrypted one
[02:31] <jugjit>  zmo anything else I need to do?
[02:32] <h3sp4wn> gringo: then run it again
[02:32] <zmo> jugjit: try to mount it manually. make a mount point in /media e.g. usbdisk
[02:32] <zmo> jugjit: sudo mkdir /media/usbdisk
[02:32] <ubuntu__> hello, i have a big problem with espresso on Beta 2
[02:33] <ubuntu__> can anybody help me please?
[02:34] <Nysosym> when i click on "next" in the partition dialog, espresso crashes
[02:34] <zmo> jugjit: first we need to know what device name the usbstick got like /dev/sda1
[02:34] <Nysosym> would anyone have the failure?
[02:34] <Hobbsee> Riddell: you around at all?  know about Nysosym's problem?
[02:35] <Riddell> Hobbsee: hmm?
[02:35] <jugjit>  zmo I have used mkdir command, now going to check for device name.
[02:35] <Hobbsee> Riddell: problem with espresso - your area, isnt it?
[02:35] <gringo> h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13206 :(:(
[02:35] <Riddell> Nysosym: which page?
[02:36] <Nysosym> Riddel i use Dapper Drake Beta 2 and Espresso crashes when i click on "next" in the partition dialog
[02:36] <Riddell> which page?
[02:36] <Nysosym> one moment please
[02:36] <jugjit>  amo how do I check the name for the  USB device?
[02:36] <Riddell> Nysosym: which language?
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> gringo: what is the line after psk ?
[02:37] <Nysosym> Riddel "Select a disk" on language german and english, the same problem
[02:37] <Riddell> Nysosym: ah yes, known problem
[02:37] <Nysosym> would you have the failure?
[02:37] <zmo> jugjit: if you plug in your usbstick and then dmesg | tail do you see something like sdaX ?
[02:38] <Riddell> Nysosym: fixed in the repository
[02:38] <Nysosym> Riddel, okay any workaround?
[02:38] <gringo> h3sp4wn: there ist just the '}'
[02:38] <Riddell> Nysosym: problem is in get_disk_choices, change autopartition to part_disk on the last line
[02:38] <Riddell> in kde-ui.py
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> gringo: its is supposed to be psk="thisiswhereiputmyunencryptedkeyfortesting"
[02:39] <Nysosym> Riddell: okay :)
[02:40] <Nysosym> Riddell: which directory? :D
[02:40] <gringo> h3sp4wn: this is how my wpa_sup.conf looks: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13209
[02:40] <jugjit>  zmo All I get is >
[02:41] <Riddell> Nysosym: /usr/lib/python-2.4/site-packages/ubiquity/frontend
[02:41] <jugjit>  using the dmesg | comand
[02:41] <gringo> h3sp4wn: oh I forgot these ""... :/ sorry
[02:41] <zmo> jugjit: it's dmesg | tail
[02:42] <zmo> jugjit: to show the last 10 lines of dmesg output
[02:42] <jugjit>  zmo sorry I'll try again.
[02:42] <zmo> jugjit: hit ctrl-c to escape the >
[02:42] <gringo> h3sp4wn: now i added the "" and executed the command again. now i get no error but again the "no suitable access point" message
[02:43] <h3sp4wn> gringo: what accesspoint are you using ?
[02:43] <jugjit> [4300283.684000]  sdb: Write Protect is off
[02:43] <jugjit> [4300283.684000]  sdb: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[02:43] <jugjit> [4300283.684000]  sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
[02:43] <jugjit> [4300283.691000]  SCSI device sdb: 512000 512-byte hdwr sectors (262 MB)
[02:43] <jugjit> [4300283.691000]  sdb: Write Protect is off
[02:43] <jugjit> [4300283.691000]  sdb: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[02:43] <jugjit> [4300283.691000]  sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
[02:43] <jugjit> [4300283.691000]   /dev/scsi/host9/bus0/target0/lun0: unknown partition table
[02:43] <jugjit> [4300283.696000]  Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi9, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[02:43] <jugjit> [4300283.697000]  usb-storage: device scan complete
[02:43] <jugjit>  zmo the above is what I get
[02:44] <zmo> jugjit: next time use pastebin
[02:44] <zmo> !pastebin
[02:44] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[02:44] <jugjit>  ok.
[02:44] <zmo> jugjit: is the stick formatted already?
[02:44] <Nysosym> Riddell: when i use Adept on Live CD, does espresso work perfectly after?
[02:45] <zmo> jugjit: fat32, ntfs, ext3 ?
[02:45] <Riddell> Nysosym: no, I don't think the fix has been updated yet
[02:45] <jugjit>  The stick just holds data such as Word docs and jpegs, so I would say its pre formatted
[02:46] <gringo> h3sp4wn: Netopia 3347W
[02:46] <Riddell> uploaded
[02:46] <Nysosym> Riddell: hmm okay, because i cant find the right line in kde-ui.py
[02:46] <zmo> jugjit: let's try to mount it then: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdisk
[02:46] <jugjit>  zmo ok and tahnks for the help.
[02:47] <Nysosym> Riddell: or can you send me the fixed version please? :)
[02:47] <jugjit>  zmo what does t and vfat mean?
[02:47] <sword-> hey does anyone know a good dvd ripping program for ubuntu?
[02:48] <Riddell> Nysosym: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/bzr/ubiquity/ubuntu/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py
[02:48] <apokryphos> sword-: k3b with the relevant plugins is meant to be quite good. See k3b.org
[02:48] <zmo> jugjit: -t means filesystem type and vfat is a linux fat implementation
[02:48] <sword-> cool thanka apokryphos
[02:49] <zmo> jugjit: you could also just try without the -t vfat and see if it works
[02:50] <h3sp4wn> gringo: try adding ap_scan=2 back to the top of the file before the {
[02:50] <Nysosym> Riddel thx
[02:50] <jugjit>  ok thanks again for the advice.
[02:51] <zmo> jugjit: yw
[02:51] <wk2x> have got anybody know-how with pinnacle TV cards (110i)?
[02:52] <kimo> guys, is it safe enough to use kpowersave now ?
[02:52] <jugjit>  zmo taking out -t and vfat, I get mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[02:52] <jpatrick> kimo: I use it, and it's ok
[02:52] <kimo> perfect ..
[02:53] <zmo> kimo: me too, no probs
[02:53] <kimo> removing klaptop ...
[02:53] <jpatrick> just don't suspend to ram
[02:53] <zmo> jugjit: but does it work with the vfat option?
[02:53] <kimo> is there a reson why many KDE apps don't have their "help" installed?
[02:54] <kimo> jpatrick: why!
[02:54] <jpatrick> I did and the laptop stopped
[02:54] <gringo> h3sp4wn: Line 7: too large scan_ssid (value=2 max_value=1)
[02:54] <jpatrick> but maybe it was just me...
[02:54] <kimo> jpatrick: it works here, but it starts suspending *after* I log out !!!
[02:54] <jpatrick> kimo: installed the *-doc packages?
[02:54] <kimo> jpatrick: guess not, but an application should depend on its docs I guess!
[02:55] <jpatrick> they don't
[02:55] <gringo> wk2x: :D
[02:55] <jpatrick> just suggest
[02:55] <h3sp4wn> gringo: Why is it in line 7 I specifically said that it needs to before the network { section i.e on the line above
[02:55] <kimo> where can I suggest
[02:55] <wk2x> gringo: smile
[02:55] <jugjit>  just using vfat just mount switches that cna be used.
[02:56] <jpatrick> kimo: the program packages suggest the -doc packages
[02:56] <h3sp4wn> gringo: should be in line 2 or 3
[02:56] <gringo> h3sp4wn: Line 4: Invalid configuration line 'scan_ssid=2'
[02:56] <wk2x> have nobody know-how with tv-cards
[02:57] <wk2x> v4l2
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> gringo: let me see the config as it stands now to pastebin
[02:57] <gringo> k
[02:57] <kimo> !! it says kubuntu-desktop depends on powernowd, but it removed it!
[02:57] <ubotu> kimo: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[02:58] <gringo> h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13212
[02:58] <jugjit>  what I mean typing sudo mount vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdisk
[02:58] <jugjit>  zmo just dispalys mount switches that can be used
[02:58] <zmo> jugjit: you forgot -t
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> gringo: I didn't say change scan_ssid to 2 (it still should be scan_ssid=1) what I did say was add the line ap_scan=2 - is english your first language ?
[02:59] <jugjit>  zmo sorry I confused you I have tried it -t and vfat and Iget the following:
[03:00] <gringo> no it isn't my first language, im sorry bout that... I'll change the file
[03:00] <gringo> h3sp4wn:
[03:00] <jugjit>  mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[03:01] <h3sp4wn> gringo: That is not a problem I will try to make my responses clearer
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> gringo: the line ap_scan=2 should be above the section which starts with network {
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> gringo: the line scan_ssid=1 should be inside the { }
[03:02] <gringo> yes i understood and changed it. I retyped the command and i am pasting the whole stuff
[03:02] <zmo> jugjit: type ls -al /dev/sdb* in your console
[03:03] <milian> hey guys, I just accidently hit a key combo in quanta and now I don't see the menu anymore. With menu I mean the Data | ... | Extras | Help thing
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> gringo: Have you re run the command ?
[03:03] <milian> how can I get that back?
[03:04] <jugjit>  I just tried sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb  /media/usbdisk
[03:04] <jugjit>  nothing appeared.
[03:04] <zmo> jugjit: nothing is good :-)
[03:04] <zmo> jugjit: now you can (probably) browse to /media/usbdisk
[03:05] <wk2x> k
[03:05] <jugjit>  zmo thanks for the help.  I will have a look now.
[03:05] <gringo> h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13213
[03:06] <zmo> jugjit: yw
[03:07] <gringo> h3sp4wn: now it seems to be stucked. it doesn't go back to command line itself I have to abort
[03:07] <jugjit>  zmo its worked I can see the files, in future do I need to make a mount point for USB
[03:08] <wk2x> nobody can help me with my tv-card problem..It's a pity.have a nice day
[03:08] <zmo> jugjit: check out man fstab and add /dev/sdb /media/usbdisk to /etc/fstab
[03:08] <jugjit>  thanks for all the help, you have made this newbie proud to be part of the kubuntu crew
[03:09] <gringo> wk2x: beschreibe dein problem ;)
[03:09] <Nysosym> ohh ein deutscher ^^
[03:09] <gringo> wk2x: mit logs und allem drum und dran
[03:09] <wk2x> hehe
[03:09] <zmo> jugjit: :-)
[03:09] <ctothej> Has anyone been successful getting kubuntu AMD64 version installed and working on an ATI graphics card ?
[03:09] <gringo> Nysosym: fast :D
[03:09] <Nysosym> ein stereicher? :D
[03:09] <wk2x> Nysosym: Schweizer
[03:09] <wk2x> ;)
[03:09] <gringo> :D
[03:10] <zmo> !de
[03:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[03:10] <Nysosym> verflucht, wollte ich zuerst sagen :D
[03:10] <Nysosym> zmo sry i will speak englich :D
[03:10] <wk2x> i'am too
[03:10] <gringo> me 2 -.-
[03:11] <h3sp4wn> gringo: run iwlist eth0 scan
[03:11] <Nysosym> riddel all works very fine now, thx again my friend :D
[03:12] <jugjit>  zmo by adding /dev/sdb /media/usbdisk to /etc/fstab, what does it do?
[03:12] <gringo> h3sp4wn: done: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13214
[03:13] <jugjit>  zmo so you can see the USB device
[03:13] <h3sp4wn> gringo: and the router is using wpa-psk ?
[03:14] <zmo> jugjit: do other usbdisks mount automatically?
[03:15] <gringo> h3sp4wn: yes WPA - PSK
[03:15] <jugjit>  zmo I have not tried any others, but I will do soon.
[03:16] <zmo> jugjit: you shouldn't have to edit your fstab to mount usbstick on ubuntu
[03:16] <zmo> jugjit: are you running breezy or a dapper flight/beta ?
[03:16] <jugjit>  zmo I'm runing brezzt
[03:17] <jugjit>  breezy
[03:17] <gringo> h3sp4wn: it works without any problems under windows xp
[03:17] <gringo> h3sp4wn: but i want to get rid of it :)
[03:17] <wk2x> i have got the problem with a pinnacle tv-card (110i).i use kubuntu 5.10. i see that the driver is loaded but it doesn't run with kdetv, xawtv...the log file can you see here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13215 ...thx for any help!
[03:18] <jugjit>  zmo - from what you said before about add /dev/sdb /media/usbdisk to /etc/fstab, how do I do that?
[03:19] <h3sp4wn> gringo: try setting the key on the access point to something more simple. (so we can test it)
[03:20] <gringo> h3sp4wn: ok i changed to "kubuntutest"
[03:21] <Ryoga85> hi, which programme sets the volume when I press my volume keys?
[03:21] <Hobbsee> Ryoga85: alsamixer (via console), and kmix
[03:21] <zmo> jugjit: you really shouldn't have to add your usbdisk to /etc/fstab only as a workaround...
[03:22] <Ryoga85> oh, i right mentioned... when I close kmix and press the key, it gets started again...
[03:23] <jugjit>  thanks for the info, could you tell me where I can get detailed info on all Linux to mounting and etc.
[03:23] <Ryoga85> so sth has to start kmix, or not, Hobbsee?
[03:24] <jugjit>  I would like to know more so I can help other people out with the problems, thanks again zmo
[03:24] <Hobbsee> you dont have to start kmix.  there's a setting in kmix to keep the last saved settings, or discard them on reboot...you might want to choose which option you want for that...
[03:24] <gringo> jugjit: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=linux+basics&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=
[03:24] <jugjit>  thanks gringo much appeciated
[03:24] <zmo> jugjit: don't forget to man stuff: man fstab
[03:24] <jugjit>  :-)
[03:25] <Ryoga85> no Hobbsee, I just wanted to know which program reacts when I press my volume keys
[03:25] <Hobbsee> ah okay
[03:26] <zmo> jugjit: check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77141&highlight=automount+usb+disk
[03:26] <jugjit>  zmo I have had a look at man fstab intersitng about filesystems. :-)
[03:26] <gringo> h3sp4wn: now i added the new PSK to my wpa_sup.conf. Also did: wpa_passphrase "Gringo" kubuntutest
[03:27] <saaida> Does anyone knwo of a way to pass the "Digital Rights Management" in a using vlc ?
[03:27] <Ryoga85> Hobbsee: and do you know if there is a way to get some special keys working?
[03:28] <Ryoga85> they worked with gnome, but kde doesn't seem to recognize them
[03:28] <Hobbsee> er....i'm no expert, not having those kind of keys.  you have to bind them in somehow to the keyboard shortcuts in kcontrol.  google for more info...
[03:29] <Ryoga85> Hobbsee: but it doesn't recognize all my keys, only some. I got my browser- and Mail keys working and the volume keys work too but they are not set in the shortcuts
[03:30] <jugjit>  hey all thanks, now I have to go its a been a blast and I hope you to meet you in here again.
[03:30] <jugjit>  :-)
[03:30] <Ryoga85> Hobbsee: but there are 4 keys which just don't get recognized
[03:30] <jugjit>  bye for now.
[03:30] <gringo> bye jugjit
[03:30] <zmo> jugjit: bye !
[03:31] <Hobbsee> Ryoga85: i'm afraid you'll have to google it - i really have no idea...
[03:31] <zmo> saaida: you mean for dvd-playback?
[03:32] <saaida> zmo: no . i downloaded wmv file which play perfect under winxp . but with vlc or any other media it does not.
[03:33] <HymnToLife> saaida> w32codecs installed ?
[03:33] <Ryoga85> saaida: well, it's called "WINDOWS media video" for a reason...
[03:34] <Ryoga85> btw. wmv works for me till now, but avi doesn't*lol*
[03:34] <saaida> HymnToLife : yeah
[03:34] <zmo> saaida: you probably know about this one: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[03:35] <zmo> saaida: there it says "Note: WMV files encoded with DRM (Digital Rights Management) are not playable by the codecs."
[03:35] <HymnToLife> saaida> try playing it with xine; it' said to be the best for such stuff
[03:35] <ubuntu> salut
[03:35] <ubuntu> des francais ici ?
[03:35] <zmo> saaida: w32codecs that is
[03:36] <HymnToLife> oui, mais...
[03:36] <saaida> zmo : so there is no way to do it ? ??
[03:36] <HymnToLife> !fr
[03:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:36] <gringo> :D
[03:36] <wk2x> pillul
[03:36] <gringo> muahaha
[03:36] <HymnToLife> lmao
[03:36] <saaida> HymnToLife : xine can play DRM files ?
[03:37] <HymnToLife> DRM files are a no-go
[03:37] <wk2x> nice day
[03:37] <Ryoga85> ahh... "Acer Hotkey driver for Linux" that sounds nice...
[03:37] <zmo> saaida: i never came across a drm'ed wmv file before
[03:37] <gringo> cya wk2x
[03:39] <gringo> h3sp4wn: I have to go now. Thank you very much for your help. I'll try to play around with that wpa_supplicant stuff. Thanks!!
[03:39] <gringo> oh any of you guys now wich packet I need to play mp3's ?
[03:40] <gringo> _know_
[03:40] <HymnToLife> !mp3
[03:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:40] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[03:41] <Ryoga85> HymnToLife: do you know a PCI WLAN Card that works with kubuntu?
[03:42] <HymnToLife> nope sorry
[03:42] <gringo> thanks! and bye
[03:42] <h3sp4wn> Best supported is atheros
[03:42] <HymnToLife> never messed with it, wired all the way for me
[03:43] <Ryoga85> Hobbsee: do you know a PCI WLAN Card that works with kubuntu?
[03:43] <Hobbsee> !tell Ryoga85 about wireless
[03:43] <Ryoga85> lol
[03:43] <Ryoga85> ty
[03:43] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:43] <Hobbsee> try to grab something that works out of the box, if you can...
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> rl2500 used to work really well but they have broken it in dapper
[03:44] <Hobbsee> Ryoga85: i'm using a netgear wg511v2 made in china card...it works reasonably well - i just found a nice new driver for it that makes it faster :D
[03:47] <Ryoga85> it's not for me, just for my cousin. i'll tell him about.
[03:48] <Ryoga85> the card in my laptop works well :)
[03:51] <xoso> how can i configurate grub so that windows is the default system to start?
[03:51] <HymnToLife> !grub
[03:51] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:52] <HymnToLife> the first link should have the answer
[03:55] <xoso> yes thanks
[03:56] <Ryoga85> awk: cannot open /lib/modules/2.6.15-21-386/build/include/linux/version.h (No such file or directory)
[03:56] <Ryoga85> HymnToLife: what's that
[03:56] <Ryoga85> or what can I do to compile that?
[03:58] <zmo> Ryoga85: get your kernel headers sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[03:59] <Ryoga85> ty
[04:00] <zmo> yw
[04:00] <v_> hi all!  does anyone know how to upgrade to dapper from breezy? ...i dled the live cd but cant seem to find a way to upgrade
[04:01] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[04:01] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[04:01] <v_> thanks
[04:01] <Tm_T> v_: but beware, dapper isn't released yet so some things may work bit unpleasantly
[04:02] <v_> hmm i dont have gksudo isntalled
[04:02] <v_> Tm_T: i hear ya
[04:02] <xoso> is there a german channel for kubuntu?
[04:02] <Tm_T> !de
[04:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:02] <zmo> v_: kdesu for kubuntu
[04:03] <xoso> thx :D ok now i understood the ! function
[04:04] <_75k> is it ok to ask for help here? :)
[04:04] <v_> _75k: nope ;)  you will be booed and kicked out..just kidding..whats the quesiton
[04:04] <_75k> heh
[04:05] <_75k> well ive just installed kubuntu today and i dont yet understand how compiling works etc... i've been trying to get linux DC++ to work but its only available in certain distros, so i got it in source format
[04:05] <_75k> but i need some sort of guide to explain to me how to install it
[04:05] <_75k> do you know of any?
[04:06] <v_> what does compiling have to with dc++
[04:06] <zmo> _75k: did you check http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76643 yet?
[04:06] <v_> you need to compile it?
[04:06] <_75k> yeah its in source
[04:06] <_75k> thanks zmo i'm having a look
[04:07] <v_> oh...i guess you will ened to dl the compilers etc
[04:14] <_75k> thanks zmo! that worked great :)
[04:27] <ziza> !flash
[04:27] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:40] <DaSkreech> Is there a shortcut key to move around the tabs in Konsole?
[04:41] <smoosh> hi, i think that i've found a bug in kubuntu...
[04:42] <smoosh> the owner of file "~/.kde/share/config/kcontrolrc" is root and not the current user...
[04:43] <zmo> smoosh: my kcontrolrc is owned by me, not root
[04:44] <smoosh> zmo: mine was owned by root...
[04:44] <smoosh> zmo: ...in breezy
[04:45] <joe_attaboy> mine is owned by me
[04:45] <joe_attaboy> breezy Kubuntu
[04:45] <zmo> smoosh: in breezy too, chown it back to yourself and see when it changes again...
[04:46] <smoosh> zmo: now i've changed the owner to me... i'll see if will change...
[04:46] <zmo> smoosh: do you use kdesu or sudo for gui apps?
[04:46] <joe_attaboy> you *are* looking in your /home, right?
[04:46] <smoosh> zmo: usually i use sudo
[04:47] <Ryoga85> I havea question
[04:47] <jpatrick> smoosh / _smoosh: there's you're problem, use kdesu
[04:47] <smoosh> joe_attaboy: yes
[04:47] <zmo> smoosh: you should run kde gui apps with kdesu and sudo for console apps
[04:47] <Ryoga85> how to install ndiswrapper without being connected to the internet?
[04:47] <joe_attaboy> ok, just checking ;-)
[04:48] <smoosh> zmo: ok
[04:48] <smoosh> jpatrick: ok
[04:48] <ctothej> when is dapper scheduled for stable release?
[04:49] <joe_attaboy> june, I heard
[04:49] <smoosh> so is right that this file is owned by root at default?
[04:49] <ctothej> oh nice. is it difficult to upgrade?
[04:49] <joe_attaboy> I also heard there's lots of bugs to kill
[04:49] <joe_attaboy> still
[04:49] <joe_attaboy> no, shouldn't be.
[04:50] <joe_attaboy> I did an upgrade from KDE 3.5 to 3.5.2 using Adept. worked perfectly
[04:50] <ctothej> oh nice. what major new features will there be?
[04:50] <joe_attaboy> killed a nasty bug in kicker, too
[04:50] <ctothej> sweet
[04:50] <Ryoga85> how to install ndiswrapper without being connected to the internet?
[04:51] <joe_attaboy> there should be some upgrade info on the kubuntu site.
[04:51] <Ryoga85> !ndiswrapper
[04:51] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[04:52] <joe_attaboy> ctothej: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000072.html
[04:52] <joe_attaboy> some links there, too
[04:53] <joe_attaboy> Ryoga85: what kind of wireless are you looking to support?
[04:55] <DaSkreech> jpatrick: I havea problem with kdesu
[04:56] <jpatrick> DaSkreech: which is?
[04:58] <remnon> heya, any idea why videos in firefox play for a few milliseconds and then stop ? i've taken the new codecs from EasyUbuntu, but nothing seems to really work O_
[05:03] <emma> hi
[05:03] <emma> is this pssible
[05:03] <emma> ?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> jpatrick: No matter what password I put in it allows me into whatever app I asked ti to run
[05:04] <DaSkreech> it
[05:04] <emma> what i want to do is connect a firewire drive to by kubuntu box and have itunes on my mac get it's library over the ntwork
[05:04] <jpatrick> hmm
[05:04] <jpatrick> maybe it's lagging...
[05:07] <munzir> Hi, I am getting errors like "mime types not supported" and "protocol not supported http" when I installed kde in a chroot in my dapper, what could be the reason, please?
[05:09] <jpatrick> munzir: not sure, sorry
[05:10] <Ryoga85> is there a way to get my USB Card Reader working with Kubuntu?
[05:10] <Ryoga85> !cardreader
[05:10] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Ryoga85
[05:11] <munzir> !chroot
[05:11] <ubotu> [chroot]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[05:14] <Ryoga85> no one?
[05:14] <Sputnik_NL> hello everybody
[05:14] <Ryoga85> hi
[05:14] <kBanshee> Yello :)
[05:15] <Sputnik_NL> I'm not sure if any Kubuntu developers are in here, but I like to thank them for their awesome job!
[05:15] <Sputnik_NL> hey guys/gals :)
[05:15] <rostok> hi
[05:15] <jpatrick> Sputnik_NL: hello
[05:15] <kBanshee> I'm having troubels changing my Iconset in kde.. can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[05:15] <Sputnik_NL> what iconset you want to use?
[05:15] <kBanshee> This one: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=38098
[05:16] <kBanshee> I'm running KDE 3.5.2
[05:16] <jpatrick> kBanshee: you doing it via KControl?
[05:16] <Sputnik_NL> yeah just what I wanted to ask
[05:16] <kBanshee> Systemsettings -> Appearance
[05:16] <Sputnik_NL> just open the Icons panel, and install the tar.gz
[05:17] <kBanshee> Ok.. I was trying to install the index :)
[05:17] <kBanshee> That was too simple :)
[05:17] <MEtaLpREs> ok so i just upgraded to dapper from breezy, and now I can get my comp to boot all the way to kde, it gets about halfway done booting then stops, is there a way I can chroot into that install and find a log file showing exactly where its atopping?
[05:18] <MEtaLpREs> *can't get my comp to boot to kde
[05:18] <Sputnik_NL> I've a question as well. Can anybody tell me how the behaviour from the Ubuntu devs towards the Kubuntu devs is right now? I heard some rumors...
[05:18] <Sputnik_NL> what message do you see MEtaLpREs?
[05:19] <MEtaLpREs> i dont remember what it stops on, but If theres a log file i can get to from this livecd then I can tell you
[05:20] <Sputnik_NL> I'm not sure what log you'll need right now...
[05:20] <MEtaLpREs> does kubuntu have a boot log?
[05:20] <xoso> !mp3
[05:20] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[05:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:20] <nico8481> is it normal that I can't play ogg files with amaroK while I'm ripping a CD through the audiocd:/ KIOSlaves ?
[05:20] <nico8481> i think it worked before
[05:21] <nico8481> but now it says 'media could not be loaded'
[05:21] <zmo> MEtaLpREs: when it stops you can try to switch to another vty using ctrl+alt+f1
[05:22] <zmo> MEtaLpREs: you should try to fetch /var/log/Xorg0.log and /var/log/messages
[05:22] <zmo> MEtaLpREs: that's Xorg.0.log
[05:23] <nico8481> and when i tried to start kde's sound system (it was disabled since it doesn't seem to be necessary for anything and prevents the sound to work in UT) it said that the default audio was used and the sound system would use the null device instead
[05:23] <MEtaLpREs> ok thanks, i'll try to get those files
[05:23] <nysosym> re :)
[05:23] <kBanshee> BCCBCC9305
[05:23] <nysosym> is there any programm like ekiga for KDE?
[05:23] <kBanshee> Damn :)
[05:23] <kBanshee> Wrong window :)
[05:23] <zmo> kBanshee: your password?
[05:24] <kBanshee> Ssst :)
[05:24] <zmo> kBanshee: :-)
[05:24] <kBanshee> That is now my old password :)
[05:25] <Sputnik_NL> sorry guys, I was disturbed
[05:25] <Sputnik_NL> you're already helped MEtaLpREs?
[05:25] <stargater> re
[05:26] <MEtaLpREs> i dont know yet, when i get those log files and find out whats causing it to stop i may need help resolving it
[05:27] <Sputnik_NL> ok, hope you get it sorted
[05:28] <Sputnik_NL> where can I see if the Kubuntu project is looking (and for what kind) of developpers?
[05:28] <xst> How do I select which login manager to use? I just installed the kubuntu-desktop but that turned off the option to hibernate the laptop. So I want to switch back to gdm, but how?
[05:29] <zmo> xst: you probably need to sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:29] <zsz> how do I remove kde from being automatically launched at startup?
[05:29] <Sputnik_NL> yes most probably
[05:29] <xst> zmo, ok
[05:30] <Sputnik_NL> do you want to load X though xst?
[05:31] <zmo> zsz: you mean no desktop environment at all?
[05:31] <Sputnik_NL> indeed
[05:32] <xst> X is already loaded...
[05:32] <Sputnik_NL> I understand that, but what you ask is not clear to me
[05:32] <Sputnik_NL> do you want to have just commandline at startup, or an other DE then KDE?
[05:33] <zsz> zmo, exactly
[05:33] <Sputnik_NL> exactly to?
[05:34] <xst> Aaah - I just wanted a another loginmanager, gdm. I hope I can get the hibernate-feature back then. Thanks. :-)
[05:34] <Sputnik_NL> ok then just use the dpkg --reconfigure gdm
[05:34] <Sputnik_NL> try if that works
[05:34] <zsz> zmo, I don't wan't to load any desktop environments
[05:35] <Sputnik_NL> as far I remember you should just change your runlevel from 6 to 5 then, or am I mistaken?
[05:35] <zmo> zsz: then just disable kdm, remove symlinks to /etc/init.d/kdm in /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d
[05:36] <LeeJunFan> rc2.d
[05:38] <Kadran> hi i want to change the keybord layout
[05:38] <Sputnik_NL> check system settings
[05:38] <Sputnik_NL> and then regional & accessability
[05:38] <Kadran> Sputnik_NL: yes i have checked it but don't know how
[05:39] <ahmuck_jr> adept died
[05:39] <Kadran> Sputnik_NL: thanks alot
[05:39] <Sputnik_NL> did you see keybaord layout?
[05:40] <Sputnik_NL> just turn that on and add your keyboard layout of choise
[05:40] <Kadran> Sputnik_NL: yes i have changed it thank you
[05:40] <Sputnik_NL> good
[05:40] <Sputnik_NL> :)
[05:40] <Sputnik_NL> you're welcome
[05:40] <ahmuck_jr> nm
[05:40] <xoso> i've got a sounblaster ls soundcard. i've installed kubuntu today. the problem is that i cant see the soundcard in audio properties. but in the device manager the souncard is installed yet
[05:41] <Sputnik_NL> what kubuntu did you install?
[05:41] <HymnToLife> xoso> do you have an audio chipset on your MOBO ? If o, try disabling it in your BIOS
[05:41] <Sputnik_NL> version I mean
[05:42] <Sputnik_NL> good suggestion HymnToLife
[05:42] <xoso> yes ive got a audio chipset. is ist possible to change the audio device directly?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> jpatrick: sorry. The net died
[05:43] <MEtaLpREs> ok heres the last few lines from my Xorg.0.log  i do see a couple errors in there, but i dont know if thats what causing it to not boot    http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/692428
[05:43] <jpatrick> DaSkreech: no problem, (same happens here sometimes)
[05:44] <Sputnik_NL> I'll take a look MEtaLpREs
[05:44] <zmo> MEtaLpREs: Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) explains it
[05:44] <Sputnik_NL> it should be a easy solution
[05:45] <zmo> MEtaLpREs: did you install xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[05:45] <Sputnik_NL> dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:45] <MEtaLpREs> my vid card was fine before the dapper upgrade...
[05:45] <Sputnik_NL> be aware dapper is still in development, and that there is a whole new X.Org included
[05:45] <zmo> MEtaLpREs: i think you need to get the new fglrx driver too
[05:46] <Sputnik_NL> yes, but just let him reconfigure his xorg first
[05:46] <Sputnik_NL> and use the default vga driver
[05:46] <Sputnik_NL> then he can update his fglrx in an GUI
[05:46] <Sputnik_NL> easier
[05:48] <Sputnik_NL> will you manage MEtaLpREs?
[05:48] <MEtaLpREs> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/692437
[05:48] <MEtaLpREs> at the bottom, thats what i get trying to reconfigure
[05:49] <neoncode> Is it possible to put linux on a moblie phone, and still use the mobile phone as a phone with all it's features (cameras, vid call, etc. )?
[05:50] <Sputnik_NL> let me look something up for  you MEtaLpREs
[05:50] <zmo> MEtaLpREs: that's strange, are you in recovery mode ?
[05:50] <MEtaLpREs> no im using a breezy live cd
[05:51] <Sputnik_NL> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:51] <Sputnik_NL> try this command
[05:52] <MEtaLpREs> ok that got me into the xorg setup
[05:52] <Sputnik_NL> great
[05:52] <MEtaLpREs> hopefully i can get back to a working version and ill deal with video drivers later
[05:52] <Sputnik_NL> just choose default settings for everything
[05:52] <Sputnik_NL> that'll make a safe fresh config for you
[05:53] <nico8481> what's the default audio device? dsp?
[05:53] <Sputnik_NL> dsp01 I guess?
[05:53] <MEtaLpREs> ok all set, ill give it a try and let you know how it went, thanks for your help
[05:53] <Sputnik_NL> no problem, i'll fix some dinner now :p
[05:54] <hussam> Riddell: Beta 2 installer from live cd isn't working either. it crashed when I clicked custom partition
[05:56] <DarkMaul> hai all
[05:56] <nico8481> nope
[05:57] <nico8481> argh! dunno why but the system seems to consider that the audio is already used while it isn't !
[05:57] <nico8481> bugs me!
[05:57] <kimo> nico8481: coz arts has it open?
[05:57] <nico8481> kimo: nope it's not running
[05:58] <DarkMaul> i have a question, when i installed kubuntu 5.10 my system hanged completly after installing a SMP kernel. Is this issue fixxed with 6.06
[05:58] <xoso> ok i was wrong. i aint got no audio chipset on the motherboard. so how can i change the audio device in kubuntu
[05:59] <Riddell> hussam: got a backtrace?
[05:59] <Riddell> hussam: end of /var/log/installer/syslog
[06:00] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:00] <nico8481> kimo: more strange, kscd manages to play audio CDs but neither amarok nor xmms not mpg123 (with KDE killed) manage to play audio files...
[06:01] <MEtaLpREs> well it definetly was an fglrx issue, booted right into dapper no problems now
[06:01] <MEtaLpREs> im impressed to, boot time was quite a bit faster then breezy, not bad for only being beta
[06:02] <kronoz> pretty advanced beta
[06:02] <hussam> Riddell: Yes I did save it but I'm not near my machine now. I'll have it when I'm home in an hour. I'll poke at you when I'm home in half an hour or so.
[06:02] <DarkMaul> could someone try my question
[06:02] <DarkMaul> with the smp support
[06:03] <jpatrick> DarkMaul: didn't you get killed?
[06:04] <DarkMaul> ?
[06:04] <DarkMaul> did i
[06:04] <DarkMaul> i sure dont hope so
[06:04] <jpatrick> in the movie ;)
[06:04] <DarkMaul> oww yeah
[06:04] <DarkMaul> bout 10 times allready
[06:04] <DarkMaul> atleast
[06:04] <DarkMaul> is seen the movie 10 times
[06:04] <DarkMaul> :p
[06:06] <DaSkreech> And I curse everytime it happens
[06:06] <DarkMaul> lol
[06:06] <jpatrick> DarkMaul: i don't know anything about SMP kernels...
[06:06] <DarkMaul> ffs
[06:06] <DarkMaul> hehe
[06:07] <DarkMaul> i really like kubuntu , but when running a smp kernel
[06:07] <DarkMaul> my system crashes
[06:07] <DarkMaul> really anoying
[06:08] <DarkMaul> well just give it a try i guess
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Who is in charge of the SMP kernel?
[06:10] <DarkMaul> dunno
[06:10] <jpatrick> kernel-term?
[06:11] <morzel> hi
[06:12] <DaSkreech> hello
[06:12] <morzel> i have a command what i want to run at every startup
[06:12] <morzel> how can i do it?
[06:12] <DaSkreech> read up on SystemV
[06:12] <apokryphos> !autostart
[06:12] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, apokryphos
[06:13] <apokryphos> morzel: create an executable and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart and it'll run on kde startup
[06:13] <morzel> hmmm...
[06:14] <morzel> and if don't enough for only kde?
[06:14] <sword-> do any of you use logitech mouses with a thumb button?
[06:14] <sword-> i want the button to be able to browse back when using web browsers
[06:14] <sword-> it works, but it does something weird like going to the home page
[06:14] <sword-> and i didnt install imwheel or anything
[06:15] <remnon> how can you switch output to TV in KDE ? my card is Ati Radeon 9250
[06:15] <jeff_> whats up guys
[06:16] <jeff_> does anybody know the command and usage to delete a file?
[06:16] <ubuntu> algum brasileiro??
[06:16] <jeff_> lol no
[06:16] <morzel> jeff_: rm
[06:16] <jeff_> sorryt man
[06:16] <morzel> ?
[06:16] <jeff_> ok
[06:18] <xoso> i get no mic input. what can be the problem?
[06:18] <jeff_> how do you copy something?
[06:18] <jeff_> morzel: ?
[06:19] <jeff_> xoso: i have the same problem
[06:19] <jeff_> xoso: i dont have any idea what to so
[06:19] <jeff_> *do
[06:19] <analia> hello. i have a recently installed kubuntu dapper 6.06b2. first time kubuntu , but old debian user.
[06:19] <jeff_> yeah
[06:20] <analia> i try to open adept (as quickstart says) but if says that cant open repository
[06:20] <analia> but, apt-cache search, apt-get update, etc, works fine
[06:20] <morzel> jeff_: cp
[06:20] <jeff_> analia: yeah, adept in beta is a pain in the ass
[06:20] <analia> and /etc/apt/sources.list looks fine.
[06:20] <jeff_> morzel: ok
[06:21] (Ryoga85/#kubuntu) that's strange, i didn't got disconnected while i've had nointernet connection??
[06:21] (jeff_/#kubuntu) analia: i am not sure anal, apt is pretty nice
[06:21] (jeff_/#kubuntu) analia: i think you could try kynaptic
[06:22] (jeff_/#kubuntu) analia: but if something is blocking adept, it will probably block any other app you use
[06:23] <jeff_> analia: err, ana would probably be better :S
[06:23] <jeff_> Ryoga85: lol
[06:24] <DaSkreech> analia: try sudo debtags update
[06:29] <jeff_> how do you save a session?
[06:30] <jeff_> in the kcontrol panel, it gives the option to load a saved one
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:31] <jeff_> if i choose to start a new session every time, will it just load my autostart apps and thats it?
[06:31] <jeff_> and the basic necessities
[06:33] <DaSkreech> jeff_: Where are you talking about?
[06:33] <jeff_> DaSkreech: i dont want to load my previous session when i login
[06:33] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:33] <jeff_> DaSkreech: i want to load only the programs i set to load
[06:34] <jeff_> on a clean session
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Ah
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Autostart?
[06:34] <jeff_>  /usr/share/autostart
[06:37] <ctothej> lil help...im currently setting up the new ati drivers. I am choosing the X.org server modules. Should I disable vbe and int10 ?
[06:39] <jeff_> DaSkreech: you there man/
[06:39] <jeff_> ?
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> ctothej: What is the defaults ? I have them all enabled but I know there is some I dont need
[06:39] <jeff_> so if i choose load new session, it will load only the programs in the autostart folder with kde?
[06:40] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: GLcore, bitmap, ddc, dri, etcmod, freetype, glx, int10, type1, vbe
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> is that on a fresh install ?
[06:41] <jeff_> DaSkreech: ?
[06:41] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: yes
[06:42] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: just installed and am now updating ati drivers. x server failed on the default install.
[06:42] <DaSkreech> jeff_: Where are you seeing load new session in the kcontrol panel?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> jeff_: btw I really don't know I just figured if you are going to learn about it I might as well :)
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> ctothej: I tried disabling vbe but for some reason it gets loaded by extmod anyway
[06:44] <jeff_> DaSkreech: lol ok
[06:44] <jeff_> DaSkreech: ill check it in a sec
[06:44] <DaSkreech> jeff_: Where is the option to load in the kcontrol?
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Ok
[06:44] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: hmm. ok. i read that you may have to disable int10 with these drivers..
[06:44] <ctothej> well see
[06:44] <jeff_> DaSkreech: just a sec
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> ctothej: fglrx ? or ati ?
[06:45] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: ahh, maybe that was fglrx
[06:45] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: the ati instructions dont specifically mention it
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> ctothej: I am using fglrx and I don't have that disabled as far as I know
[06:46] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: ill stick with the default for now and report back.
[06:47] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: btw, did you enable frame buffer?
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> ctothej: what card are you using ?
[06:47] <ninHer> hi all
[06:47] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: x1900
[06:48] <h3sp4wn> ctothej: you won't get accelerated 3d without fglrx
[06:48] <ctothej> doesnt the ati driver replace that though?
[06:48] <h3sp4wn> ctothej: The ati driver only works for 2d on new cards
[06:49] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: well isnt that a bitch
[06:49] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: i tried to configure fglrx on a previous install, couldnt get it to work
[06:49] <h3sp4wn> ctothej: Are you on breezy or dapper ?
[06:49] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: breezy
[06:50] <slow-motion> bye
[06:50] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: amd64 version
[06:50] <rvfh> Anyone else got problems with libxine playing videos? My screen goes blank for a fraction of second every so often since upgrade from Breezy...
[06:51] <DaSkreech> jeff_!
[06:52] <ctothej> h2sp4wn: im reading the ati site and they mention 3d acceleration and avivo with the new drivers
[06:53] <h3sp4wn> ctothej: It appears that ati has now released 64 bit drivers but I don't think breezy has them
[06:53] <Ryoga85> "gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus'" <- what can I do to fix that?
[06:54] <HymnToLife> !tell Ryoga85 about b-e
[06:54] <DaSkreech> !b-e
[06:54] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[06:55] <DaSkreech> ah
[06:56] <Ryoga85> hmm
[06:57] <ctothej> system loading just stopped after "Checking battery state... [ok] ". Any suggestions?
[06:57] <Ryoga85> but now I have a really strange question: why does gcc claim "main has to return int"?
[06:57] <ctothej> Ryoga85, have you taken an intro to c++ course?
[06:58] <Ryoga85> Cturtle: i'm learning it at the university and the source I tried to compile works well with visual C++. well, i know there are differences but at leat the language itself should be the same, shouldn't it?
[06:58] <Ryoga85> *least
[06:59] <ctothej> yeah sure. what is your main function definition line?
[07:00] <Ryoga85> void main() {
[07:00] <jpatrick> shouldn't it be int main()
[07:00] <Mark987> int only if it return an int...
[07:00] <Mark987> usually it's void
[07:00] <Ryoga85> jpatrick: not according to what i've learned
[07:01] <jpatrick> Ryoga85: I've always used int for main
[07:01] <ctothej> you should use int main()
[07:01] <ctothej> and return 0
[07:01] <Ryoga85> yeah
[07:02] <Ryoga85> ugh
[07:02] <Ryoga85> i get thousands of lines like that one now:
[07:02] <Ryoga85> :oo3.cpp:(.text+0x7d): undefined reference to `std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& std::endl<char, std::char_traits<char> >(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&)'
[07:03] <Mark987> that reminds me of why i avoid c++ ;)
[07:03] <ctothej> heh
[07:03] <ctothej> what did you include?
[07:03] <Ryoga85> #include <iostream.h>
[07:03] <Ryoga85> "Warnung: #warning This file includes at least one deprecated or antiquated header. Please consider using one of the 32 headers found in section 17.4.1.2 of the C++ standard. Examples include substituting the <X> header for the <X.h> header for C++ includes, or <iostream> instead of the deprecated header <iostream.h>."
[07:03] <Ryoga85> i guess that's why
[07:04] <Ryoga85> but umm
[07:04] <ctothej> use #include <iostream>
[07:04] <ctothej> otherwise you have to specify using std
[07:05] <Ryoga85> oo3.cpp:11: Fehler: cout wurde in diesem Gltigkeitsbereich nicht definiert
[07:05] <ctothej> right...
[07:06] <Ryoga85> oo3.cpp:11: error: 'cout' was not declared in this scope
[07:07] <ctothej> did you use std::cout << or just cout <<
[07:07] <Ryoga85> cout <<
[07:07] <ctothej> if you want to do that you must specify "using std" in main
[07:07] <ctothej> or use std::cout <<
[07:08] <Ryoga85> how?
[07:09] <ctothej> just type "using std;" the first instruction in main
[07:09] <_thumper_away_> using namespace std;
[07:09] <_thumper_away_> or using std::cout;
[07:13] <Ryoga85> ctothej & _thumper_: i tried both and get an endless list of errors again
[07:14] <Ryoga85> it says undefined reference to just any line
[07:14] <Ryoga85> :oo3.cpp:(.text+0x4d8): undefined reference to `std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >::operator<<(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& (*)(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&))'
[07:15] <ctothej> do you have any other function besides main?
[07:19] <JRGC> I'm trying to upgrade to dapper, I changed all from breesy to dapper in the /etc/apt/sources.list. I get  lot of messages saying, NOT FOUND. Why is this?
[07:20] <HymnToLife> JRGC> did you sudo apt-get update ?
[07:20] <ahmuck_jr> hi.  adept will not remove cacti.  it gets hung up on one of the screens
[07:21] <stargater> re
[07:22] <JRGC> HymnToLife:  Yes
[07:22] <JRGC> It's working, but it doesn't find a lot of them
[07:23] <JRGC> Well, I just made the upgrade and apparently my Xserver is not strating
[07:24] <JRGC> What should I do? Do I have to configure it manually?
[07:24] <JRGC> I though in Kubuntu I could just upgrade without having to configure everything again
[07:25] <DaSkreech> You can
[07:25] <krenx> How do I update to latest Nvidia drivers? I have 76.67 now
[07:26] <JRGC> DaSkreech:  How?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> generally I just copy the current lines and then change out the name to the one above
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Then I do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:27] <JRGC> DaSkreech: I though I just needed to change the /etc/apt/sources.list from breezy to dapper, and now I have a system which is not starting the Xserver
[07:27] <ahmuck_jr> does the beta1 upgrade to beta2 through the standard "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> However you are getting an error somewhere before that
[07:27] <DaSkreech> You got an error on sudo apt-get update?
[07:28] <JRGC> DaSkreech:  I'm not getting an error, I had a lot of extra repositories, so it was not finding all with dapper, but the basic ones were found
[07:28] <JRGC> And it went through with the upgrade
[07:30] <DaSkreech> and it didn't ask you if you wanted a new config or wanted to use your old ones?
[07:31] <xoso> how can i see in the shell which kde version i've got?
[07:31] <jpatrick> kdeversion
[07:31] <JRGC> DaSkreech:  Yes, but only for hdparm, cups and qt.conf or something from qt, I'm not sure, but it was irrelevant
[07:31] <krenx> Anyone? how to i upgrade to latest nvidia drivers?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Hmm It asked me for x and for postfix and that stuff as well
[07:32] <xoso> jpatrick: kdeversion doesnt work
[07:32] <JRGC> I had breezy, Was it possible to upgrade directly? Or I had to do something else?
[07:32] <DaSkreech> JRGC: I guess you could download the beta2 iso and add the lie to read from the CDrom
[07:32] <DaSkreech> That should get you working X
[07:33] <DaSkreech> You could dpkg reconfigure xorg-server as well
[07:33] <JRGC> DaSkreech:  Could you please explain me how to do this?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> which one? :)
[07:33] <xoso> how can i see which KDE version i've got
[07:34] <xoso> in the terminal
[07:34] <jpatrick> woso: Help -> About KDE
[07:35] <jpatrick> woso: kde-config --version
[07:36] <Ryoga85> jpatrick: what can I do to fix that: :oo3.cpp:(.text+0x32): undefined reference to `CKreis::CKreis()'
[07:37] <JRGC> DaSkreech:  Apparently the package xorg-server ist not avaliable in the dapper repositories, it's crazy
[07:37] <DaSkreech> x-server?
[07:37] <jpatrick> Ryoga85: No idea...
[07:38] <Ryoga85> hm
[07:38] <JRGC> DaSkreech:  When I try to install any of them, I get that it was not found
[07:38] <mokyo> is it possible to install the KDE version after i installed gnome?
[07:39] <DaSkreech> hold on
[07:39] <mokyo> now i've got normal ubuntu with gnome, now i wanna install KDE. how is it possible?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> JRGC: xserver-xorg
[07:40] <DaSkreech> mokyo: install kubuntu-desktop
[07:40] <joe_attaboy> mokyo: you can install KDE by installing kubuntu-desktop
[07:41] <mokyo> and how can i install kubuntu desktop?
[07:41] <joe_attaboy> sudo apt -i kubuntu-desktop
[07:42] <joe_attaboy> or use synaptec
[07:43] <ctothej> hows the tablet pc support in kubuntu?
[07:43] <_bbeck> I am trying to compile a program, and I keep getting the following error during the configure... "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths"!  Does anyone know what package I need to install to get the X includes.  Thanks.
[07:43] <mokyo> ok i'll use synaptic
[07:44] <Ryoga85> what is Xubuntu?
[07:44] <mokyo> should i just install  Kde-Desktop   or  KDE-Desktop(universe)
[07:44] <JRGC> DaSkreech:  The problem is much bigger than I though, apparently I have nothing, not even network
[07:44] <JRGC> DaSkreech:  Eveything is gone!!!!!
[07:44] <CaNsA> what kernel? 386, image-386, image 2.6.12-9-386 ?
[07:44] <JRGC> THis is completely stupid!!!
[07:44] <jpatrick> !xubuntu
[07:44] <ubotu> xubuntu is probably Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[07:44] <Ryoga85> ah, ty
[07:45] <JRGC> DaSkreech:  I'm going to have to reinstall the whole system
[07:45] <Ryoga85> !edubuntu
[07:45] <ubotu> Edubuntu is the education version of ubuntu (essentially ubuntu + educational apps + ltsp).  Website - http://www.edubuntu.org. Tour - http://edubuntu.org/tour.html
[07:45] <DaSkreech> JRGC: Well if you have command line you can get tings working :)
[07:45] <DaSkreech> JRGC: did you have a /home partition?
[07:46] <Jhair> how do I refresh the collection in amarok?
[07:46] <JRGC> DaSkreech:  Yes, I hope that was not modified
[07:46] <DaSkreech> JRGC: shouldn't be
[07:46] <HymnToLife> Jhair> you have a "Rescan collecion" option somewhere
[07:46] <HymnToLife> don't remeber exactly
[07:47] <bsm> hi, after newest apt-get upgrade I get "The error was 'RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter)'." with every gtk program
[07:47] <JRGC> DaSkreech:  And well, I'm really not planning to configure all by myself, I mean I think it would be better to reinstall with a CD, don't you think so?
[07:47] <DaSkreech> How many custom apps did you have>
[07:47] <mokyo> should i install KDE-Desktop (universe)   or just KDE-Desktop   with Synaptic?
[07:48] <jpatrick> mokyo: whatever you want
[07:48] <HymnToLife> mokyo> it's kubuntu-desktop
[07:49] <mokyo> whats the diffrence between KDE-Desktop and KDE-Desktop(universe)
[07:49] <Jhair> HymnToLife: thanks I will look for that option, haven't found something similar yet :)
[07:49] <DaSkreech> mokyo: Its kubuntu-desktop
[07:50] <mokyo> ok its installing now. and how can i use KDE?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> When you login there is an option for your sesion
[07:50] <DaSkreech> normally at the bottom of the screen
[07:50] <DaSkreech> on it select KDE instead of Gome
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Gnome
[07:51] <mokyo> ok .. BIG THX
[07:55] <regenkind> hi is there a functionality to import some network list in konversation?
[07:55] <regenkind> and where can i get such a list?
[07:56] <stargater> Question : where can take a windowdecoration ?
[07:56] <Yon> hey people
[07:57] <Tm_T> stargater: www.kde-look.org and google
[07:57] <ctothej> my kubuntu boots to a blank screen after install of new ati drivers. there seem to be no errors in Xorg.0.log.
[07:58] <stargater> Tm_T:  :-) true, but i have a decor, but install ?
[07:59] <jpatrick> stargater: compile and install it
[07:59] <Tm_T> there's usually README file
[07:59] <stargater> jpatrick:  ?a windowdecaration compiling ?
[07:59] <Tm_T> yes
[07:59] <Tm_T> stargater: they are miniature applications
[08:00] <stargater> hmm
[08:00] <DarkMaul> hi
[08:00] <DaSkreech> DarkMaul: I am your father!
[08:00] <stargater> i have in the tgz only png`s
[08:00] <Tm_T> what?
[08:00] <stargater> ok thx for helping :-)
[08:02] <DarkMaul> no you are not
[08:02] <Tm_T> stargater: let's put it this way: if they were only png's and stuff, I have been finished my windeco a year ago =)
[08:02] <DarkMaul> hmm
[08:02] <Tm_T> DarkMaul: indeed
[08:02] <DarkMaul> how ever
[08:03] <DarkMaul> omg
[08:03] <DarkMaul> with dapper 6.06 smp kernel dos not hang
[08:03] <Tm_T> shame
[08:03] <DarkMaul> W00000TTT
[08:04] <DarkMaul> Tm_T, did we ever talk ?
[08:04] <DarkMaul> i seem to know you from somewhere
[08:05] <Tm_T> well, I'm 100% sure we have been discussing over ten times here, also elsewhere
[08:05] <DarkMaul> ok
[08:05] <DarkMaul> good
[08:05] <DarkMaul> :-)
[08:05] <DarkMaul> i need to restart x
[08:05] <stevekl> How do I use knetworkmanager?
[08:05] <DarkMaul> brb
[08:05] <stevekl> I click on the icon in the taskbar and all it says is "knetworkmanager is not running"
[08:05] <jeff_> secks
[08:06] <twstokes> Can someone answer a quick wifi question?
[08:06] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[08:06] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[08:07] <twstokes> Good point
[08:07] <twstokes> You have just verified that you will answer
[08:07] <twstokes> When I was installing BB 5.10 I skipped over the wifi setup
[08:07] <twstokes> What's the best route to take to set it up again?
[08:07] <twstokes> The regular wifi settings were allowing me to change them
[08:08] <twstokes> *weren't
[08:08] <twstokes> I would have set it up at installation, but didn't have the WEP with me at the time
[08:08] <stargater> Tm_T:  i have a windowdeco not windowsdecor
[08:09] <stargater> i have a deco downloaden from kde look , but i dont now where this unzip
[08:09] <stargater> i need a folder place
[08:09] <Tm_T> stargater: windeco, window deco, window decoration, whatever ;)
[08:10] <stargater> Tm_T:  sure
[08:10] <Tm_T> stargater: give me url of kde-look entry of that?
[08:10] <stargater> also we can install a decoration
[08:10] <dicky> how can i update kde?
[08:10] <stargater> hmm ok i must searce
[08:10] <Tm_T> !kde3.5.2
[08:10] <ubotu> from memory, kde3.5.2 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[08:11] <stargater> Tm_T: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=37010
[08:11] <Tm_T> stargater: ok, I'll check it
[08:11] <twstokes> Don't you have to allow universal also when upgrading to 3.5.2?
[08:11] <stargater> Tm_T:  thx
[08:12] <jpatrick> twstokes: no
[08:12] <Tm_T> stargater: aah, that's not windeco itself, just "addition" to windeco
[08:12] <jacques> hi, does anyone know  where (on dapper) mplayer looks for codecs? I can't play wmv files
[08:12] <twstokes> Hmm ok
[08:12] <Tm_T> stargater: you need deKorator
[08:13] <Tm_T> stargater: though, no idea how that stuff works
[08:14] <stargater> Tm_T:  ok thx
[08:14] <stargater> i have think, i can drop this in a folder and start kcontrol and set this deco
[08:16] <Tm_T> stargater: well, you need deKorator and set it to use that bitmap set
[08:16] <v3ctor> jacques: http://www.elijahlofgren.com/ubuntu/#multimedia
[08:18] <jacques> thanks v3ctor. i'm not a great fan of installing non-ubuntu repos. But i guess i could give it a try. but as xine can play wmv shouldn't the codecs be somewhere on my computer already?
[08:19] <v3ctor> jacques: you can just get the .deb and install it manually if you don't want the repo
[08:20] <v3ctor> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba
[08:20] <jacques> v3ctor. cheers. that was good quick help!
[08:20] <v3ctor> np
[08:23] <ctothej> my kubuntu boots to a blank screen after install of new ati drivers. there seem to be no errors in Xorg.0.log. suggestions?
[08:24] <twstokes> What ati card are you running?
[08:25] <twstokes> I had some trouble with my ATI yesterday a locking up, then I followed this website: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
[08:25] <beingmrkenny> I'm currently running 6.06 beta liveCD, and I'm trying to install kubuntu permanently to my hard drive, but when i try to open the manual partition table editor, it fails
[08:25] <beingmrkenny> is there any workaround?
[08:25] <twstokes> Now I've got dual screen 3d accelerated bliss
[08:26] <Yon> if i had to formatt and install windows on a diffrent partition will it mess up my grub?
[08:26] <twstokes> you'll probably have to reinstall grub
[08:26] <twstokes> I think you can boot from the install cd's and skip to the bootloader installation part
[08:27] <Yon> eish :/
[08:27] <v3ctor> windows will always revert the boot sector to windows only boot
[08:27] <Yon> u think or u know
[08:27] <twstokes> Yeh Windows will overwrite the MBR
[08:27] <twstokes> Well on my setup it always has
[08:27] <twstokes> every single time
[08:27] <twstokes> I have the MBR on Disk 0
[08:27] <Yon> kk thanks
[08:27] <twstokes> Windows on Disk 0, Linux on disk 1
[08:27] <twstokes> No problem
[08:28] <Yon> but i can just skip to instal the grub off the linux install cd
[08:28] <Yon> ?
[08:28] <twstokes> I think you start up the installation,
[08:28] <twstokes> when it gets to the partitioning section hit "back" or something like that
[08:28] <twstokes> it will take you to a menu
[08:29] <twstokes> in that menu you can skip to "install boot loader"
[08:29] <twstokes> You might want to Google it though - I know I've seen instructions all over
[08:29] <twstokes> about that exact thing
[08:29] <ctothej> twsokes: x1900
[08:29] <twstokes> I followed this website for my ATI: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
[08:29] <twstokes> It worked great
[08:30] <ctothej> twstokes: i did that, i feel like it should be working, but it just shows a black screen
[08:30] <twstokes> Can you get into X windows at all?
[08:30] <ctothej> twstokes: i am reconfiguring xorg.conf to see if i can get it to work. i havent got into x yet
[08:30] <twstokes> On that website,
[08:30] <ctothej> seems like it loads, as there are no errors in the logs.
[08:30] <twstokes> I didn't exactly follow the steps in order
[08:31] <ctothej> i think it is outputting to the screen incorrectly.
[08:31] <twstokes> my particular problem was rebooting
[08:31] <ctothej> what do you mean?
[08:31] <twstokes> mine would start up fine, but never shut down
[08:31] <rraajj> twstokes: I think you're on the right track. Pressing the escape key while on one of the installation steps will take you to a menu where all the installation steps are listed.
[08:31] <twstokes> I tried following the website I just mentioned, but I had to skip around it to make it work correctly
[08:31] <twstokes> Thanks rraakk
[08:31] <twstokes> Thanks rraajj
[08:32] <rraajj> No need for thanks. :)
[08:32] <twstokes> I'm a really newbie to IRC
[08:32] <ctothej> i think x is loading, but its output is blank so I am not sure the reason
[08:32] <rraajj> I just confirmed your suggestion, anyway. Haha.
[08:32] <twstokes> when text is read, does that mean it's private? Or that it's just getting your attention because it's addressed to you?
[08:33] <twstokes> *red
[08:33] <twstokes> in irc
[08:33] <beingmrkenny> hello, sorry to repeat the question, has anyone successfully installed Dapper permanently? When I try, I get an error when I get to the manual partitioner.
[08:33] <rraajj> twstokes: You using X-Chat?
[08:33] <HymnToLife> beingmrkenny> why not install Breezy and upgrade to DApper ?
[08:33] <rraajj> Well, most probably, yes.
[08:33] <twstokes> Konversation
[08:33] <stevekl> beingmrkenny: I just installed from the breezy CD and apt-get dist-upgradeed from there
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> beingmrkenny: install from the install cd instead of the live one
[08:33] <rraajj> Red == default X-Chat highlighting, methinks.
[08:34] <beingmrkenny> because breezy doesn't have an internet connection :( it won't recognise my usb wireless adapter
[08:34] <twstokes> If I want to send a message to you like you have to me, what's the IRC command?
[08:34] <twstokes> I used to know this, but it's been a while
[08:34] <beingmrkenny> is there an install CD for dapper? I couldn't find one.
[08:34] <rraajj> twstokes: Private message?
[08:34] <twstokes> Yep just like that
[08:34] <rraajj> /msg nick message_here
[08:34] <stevekl> twstokes: /msg
[08:34] <stevekl> beaten!
[08:35] <twstokes> Ahh I'm not a registered user evidently
[08:35] <twstokes> Didn't let me do a private message
[08:35] <twstokes> But I know it's syntactically correct
[08:35] <twstokes> thanks guys for showing me
[08:35] <ctothej> twstokes, can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[08:35] <ctothej> i want to use dual head as well
[08:35] <rraajj> Lol. You can always address your message in main. :)
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> beinmrkenny : http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/dapper/flight-6/dapper-install-i386.iso - install flight 6 and then do a dist-upgrade
[08:35] <twstokes> Sure
[08:36] <ctothej> thanks.
[08:36] <rraajj> ctothej: Are you installing the ATI driver from a binary?
[08:36] <twstokes> Do you want me to paste it in this window? It's going to be gigantic
[08:37] <beingmrkenny> h3sp4wn: thanks! I'm new to Linux, I presume I will be able to burn the image without having to install an ISO recorder first?
[08:37] <ctothej> twstokesL use pastebin and tell me the url
[08:37] <stevekl> beingmrkenny: what do you mean by ISO recorder
[08:37] <DizzyDiz> Hello all!
[08:37] <ctothej> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:37] <twstokes> You're going to have to tell me how to do that - I'm incredibly new at IRC
[08:37] <ctothej> or rather http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:37] <twstokes> Ah
[08:37] <twstokes> Ok
[08:38] <beingmrkenny> oh, well to put an ISO onto CD with windows, I needed to install a program that took the ISO and made it into lots of files :)
[08:38] <beingmrkenny> sorry, don't know the technical terms...
[08:38] <stevekl> Yeah you need to do that
[08:38] <stevekl> you can do what with k3b
[08:38] <beingmrkenny> excellent! what a civilised OS!
[08:38] <DizzyDiz> Can somebody answer a question for me?
[08:38] <DizzyDiz> How do I upgrade from Kubuntu Breezy to the latest Kubuntu Dapper Beta?
[08:38] <Yon> does anyone here program with java?
[08:38] <twstokes> OK It's loading
[08:38] <twstokes> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/692754
[08:38] <DizzyDiz> I do
[08:39] <ctothej> rraajj: i installed the ati driver using the directions from http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
[08:39] <DizzyDiz> Yon I program Java
[08:39] <rraajj> ctothej: What seems to be the problem, then?
[08:39] <ctothej> thanks twstokes
[08:39] <ctothej> booting to a blank screen
[08:39] <CaNsA> whats the key combo to drop into a console?
[08:39] <Yon> DizzyDiz, in wat do u type all ur codes... i used notepad in windows
[08:39] <DarkMaul> back
[08:39] <ctothej> rraajj: x server loads, but no screen output
[08:39] <DizzyDiz> I use Idea mostly
[08:40] <DizzyDiz> But trying to get back into Eclipse
[08:40] <twstokes> No problem
[08:40] <twstokes> I had no clue pastebin even existed
[08:40] <Yon> Idea?
[08:40] <HnZeKtO> hi
[08:40] <DizzyDiz> Yon, Yeah intelliJ idea
[08:40] <ctothej> me neither till yesterday
[08:40] <rraajj> ctothej: Hmm. Weird. I also installed the ATI drivers from the repository, and it seems to be working fine for me.
[08:40] <HnZeKtO> what happened to kuickshow in dapper?
[08:40] <DizzyDiz> It's one of the best Java editors around
[08:41] <robotgeek> vim for everyone :)
[08:41] <rraajj> I can even play Diablo II. Lol!
[08:41] <Yon> get it off synaptic?
[08:41] <DizzyDiz> Unless you don't have the $$ then you use Eclipse, which I personally think is just as good if not better.
[08:41] <ctothej> rraajj: i must have  curse
[08:41] <HnZeKtO> Yon: i know, but why?
[08:41] <Yon> DizzyDiz, thanks :)
[08:41] <DizzyDiz> Vim?
[08:42] <DizzyDiz> Funny, robotgeek!
[08:42] <DizzyDiz> Yon, NP
[08:42] <twstokes> Keep in mind two that xorg.conf supports dual monitors - you might want to remove those lines if you run a single monitor only
[08:42] <robotgeek> DizzyDiz: heh
[08:42] <DizzyDiz> I like VIM too
[08:42] <DizzyDiz> For ad-hoc cmd-line stuff
[08:42] <DizzyDiz> I can't get used to it though
[08:42] <DizzyDiz> Too much stuff to remember.
[08:43] <DizzyDiz> It fascinates me how somepepople love those "use your memory for my commands" editors.
[08:43] <rraajj> DizzyDiz: I use VI (not even VIM) during programming classes. :(
[08:44] <DizzyDiz> Yeah, that's what I meant, VI
[08:44] <DizzyDiz> I've not used VIM myself either
[08:44] <DizzyDiz> Maybe in time I'll turn into a VI freak
[08:44] <Yon> DizzyDiz, is it called intelliJ idea ?
[08:45] <DizzyDiz> Yon, yes
[08:45] <Yon> i cant find it in synaptic :/
[08:45] <DizzyDiz> IntelliJ Idea
[08:45] <DizzyDiz> Oh wait
[08:45] <DizzyDiz> It's not in synaptic
[08:45] <DizzyDiz> You have to buy it from Jetbrains
[08:45] <DizzyDiz> My employer sprung for copies for everyone
[08:46] <DizzyDiz> But we haven't seen the latest update so I'm turning back over into Eclipse
[08:46] <DizzyDiz> If you want a good free editor, then get Eclipse
[08:46] <DizzyDiz> I actually suggest Eclipse over IntelliJ mainly because of the $$$
[08:47] <DizzyDiz> Now where was I....?
[08:47] <DizzyDiz> Oh yeah, my question about updating from Kubuntu Breezy...
[08:47] <Kadran> hi, is there a pakage for mldonkey?
[08:47] <Yon> hehe kk thx
[08:47] <DizzyDiz> Can anybody tell me how to update from Kubuntu Breezy to the latest Dapper beta
[08:47] <DizzyDiz> ?
[08:48] <Yon> im actually teaching my self java
[08:48] <rraajj> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:48] <DizzyDiz> Yon, good deal...
[08:48] <DizzyDiz> I'm working my way into Groovy myself...
[08:48] <Kadran> rraajj: what is the command to install mldonkey?
[08:49] <DizzyDiz> Hey rraajj, I saw on the Ubuntu site instructions on how to upgrade Ubuntu using update-manager
[08:49] <DizzyDiz> Will that work for Kubuntu too?
[08:50] <rraajj> DizzyDiz: AFAIK, yes.
[08:50] <Yon> DizzyDiz, i should get the Eclipse-SDK right?
[08:50] <DizzyDiz> Yon, Umm.. yeah
[08:50] <rraajj> Kadran: sudo apt-get install mldonkey-gui
[08:50] <rraajj> Or...
[08:50] <rraajj> sudo apt-get install mldonkey-server
[08:51] <rraajj> Just to make sure, sudo apt-get install mldonkey*
[08:51] <DizzyDiz> Yon, I hesitated because I downloaded the eclipse web development tool kit which has more stuff in it... but you'll be fine with the SDK
[08:51] <DizzyDiz> Thanx rraajj
[08:51] <Kadran> rraajj: i am using kmldonkey, so which one to use?
[08:51] <Yon> yeah, im still in the beggining stages :)
[08:51] <Yon> thanks for the help hey
[08:51] <DizzyDiz> Eclipse is the perfect editor for you
[08:52] <rraajj> sudo apt-get install kmldonkey
[08:52] <DizzyDiz> Yon, no problem
[08:52] <Kadran> rraajj: thank you man
[08:52] <Yon> DizzyDiz, u got lots of exp with Eclipse?
[08:52] <DizzyDiz> I got some
[08:52] <DizzyDiz> I'm no pro... but I can get around
[08:53] <DarkMaul> is there a easy way to get a external hdd on sata running
[08:53] <DizzyDiz> I used to use it at my prior employer but we use Idea here
[08:53] <rraajj> Kadran: No problemo.
[08:53] <DizzyDiz> So I forgot a lot of the things I used in eclipse
[08:53] <DizzyDiz> I'm learning it all over again now since we haven't bought the latest update of Idea.
[08:54] <DizzyDiz> I lost the battle here a long time ago trying to sell everyone on Eclipse.
[08:54] <DizzyDiz> Idea was popular because it was commercial
[08:54] <DizzyDiz> Plus we have a rather strange Java app that we deal with and Idea seemed to handle it better than Eclipse
[08:54] <Yon> wats the huge diffrence if its just a editor?
[08:55] <DizzyDiz> Well, it's more than an editor
[08:55] <DizzyDiz> It's an I.D.E.
[08:55] <DizzyDiz> It brings a lot to the table
[08:55] <DizzyDiz> Source Code management system integration support...
[08:55] <DizzyDiz> Deployment tools
[08:55] <DizzyDiz> Debuggers
[08:56] <rraajj> How 'bout trying Quanta+ for a change? Hehe.
[08:56] <DizzyDiz> All of the essential tools for the life line of application development.
[08:56] <DizzyDiz> To rraajj: Quanta+?
[08:56] <DizzyDiz> What's that?
[08:57] <_sEBAs_> hello
[08:57] <rraajj> It's also an IDE.
[08:57] <Yon> jeez ok, i hope i get to that stuff eventually
[08:57] <DizzyDiz> Hello sEBAs_
[08:57] <rraajj> Well, mainly for web development.
[08:57] <_sEBAs_> hi...
[08:57] <rraajj> But AFAIK, it also has Java integration.
[08:57] <rraajj> But I guess Eclipse is still better.
[08:57] <DizzyDiz> Yon, don't get intimidated... it's not as much as it seems
[08:58] <DizzyDiz> Hmm... I'll have to google that Quanta+
[08:58] <_sEBAs_> somebody can tellme how to install java runtime for firefox(i'm in kubuntu dapper beta 2)
[08:58] <rraajj> DizzyDiz: It's mainly for web dev. :)
[08:58] <DizzyDiz> To _sEBAs_: one sec
[08:58] <_sEBAs_> =D
[08:59] <DizzyDiz> To _sEBAs_: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[08:59] <rraajj> DizzyDiz: I think he said JRE.
[08:59] <DizzyDiz> To _sEBAs_: then you have to create a symbolic link to the .so...
[08:59] <rraajj> he/she, sorry.
[08:59] <DizzyDiz> Whoops
[08:59] <_sEBAs_> yes java :P
[09:00] <DizzyDiz> I'm sorry
[09:00] <_sEBAs_> i have already install the flash player
[09:00] <joe_attaboy> _sEBAs, the easiest way is to downloadn and install like this:
[09:00] <DizzyDiz> To _sEBAs_: do you have the JRE installed?
[09:00] <_sEBAs_> i cant find how to install the java runtime
[09:00] <joe_attaboy> download the linus JRE package from java.com
[09:00] <rraajj> Hmm. I think I have that in my bookmarks...
[09:00] <_sEBAs_> yes
[09:00] <rraajj> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76735&highlight=installing+java+jre
[09:01] <DizzyDiz> To _sEBAs_: I mean JDK installed?
[09:01] <joe_attaboy> it somes in a .bin file.
[09:01] <joe_attaboy> comes
[09:01] <rraajj> There we go.
[09:01] <joe_attaboy> as root, make the file executable, then run it.
[09:01] <DizzyDiz> You just have to create a symbolic link to the .so plugin...
[09:01] <DizzyDiz> One sec
[09:01] <joe_attaboy> follow the prompts to install it
[09:01] <_sEBAs_> ahh
[09:01] <_sEBAs_> ok...
[09:01] <joe_attaboy> when you're done, you need to make s symbolic link to the plug in. stand by, let me check it
[09:02] <_sEBAs_> i'm going to try it
[09:02] <rraajj> _sEBAs_: Or, if you can't install it that way, you can try out the how-to from the link I pasted.
[09:02] <Yon> oh DizzyDiz eclips also complies right?
[09:02] <rraajj> Then create a symlink.
[09:02] <DizzyDiz> Yeah
[09:03] <joe_attaboy> after you install it, look in the directiry where it's installed for plugins/i386/ns7
[09:03] <DizzyDiz> Eclipse has everything you need to be a world class Java developer.
[09:03] <_sEBAs_> ok, thanxs, i'm going to try that way then
[09:03] <DizzyDiz> Sorry about that rraajj, I missed your answer to that question
[09:03] <joe_attaboy> make a symlink of libjavapligin_oji.so to the firefox plugins folder
[09:03] <rraajj> DizzyDiz: Lol! How 'bout Netbeans? Ehehehehe.
[09:03] <DizzyDiz> I used to use Forte
[09:04] <joe_attaboy> you might want to symlink bin/java somewhere in your path, too
[09:04] <DizzyDiz> Which was Netbeans at one point or another
[09:04] <_sEBAs_> i think one tepositry is missing
[09:04] <DizzyDiz> I here Netbeans is looking pretty good nowadays!
[09:04] <rraajj> Yeah. It's getting a bit faster, somehow.
[09:04] <_sEBAs_> becouse i dont't find the java-package
[09:06] <DizzyDiz> To _sEBAs_: ln -s $JAVA_HOME/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so ~/.mozilla/plugins
[09:06] <DizzyDiz> That'll do it
[09:06] <_sEBAs_> ahhh
[09:06] <_sEBAs_> ok....
[09:07] <rraajj> DizzyDiz: I think $JAVA_HOME isn't readily defined... I remember having to define it sometime ago while I was working with Tomcat/JSP.
[09:07] <rraajj> Hmm...
[09:07] <DizzyDiz> I knowI'm trying to use shorthand
[09:07] <DizzyDiz> I should've mentioned that
[09:08] <DizzyDiz> To _sEBAs_: Manually replace $JAVA_HOME with the home location of your JDK
[09:08] <joe_attaboy> but...can you install the JRE from the repositories? I didn't think it was available.
[09:08] <joe_attaboy> or the JDK, for that matter?
[09:10] <rraajj> joe_attaboy: There's a repackaged JRE from the Breezy repositories sometime ago, but it's not the latest.
[09:10] <rraajj> I think it was only JRE 1.4.something.
[09:11] <joe_attaboy> that's what I thought. I did the jre install by hand. d/l from java.com. installed, linked to plugin
[09:12] <rraajj> joe_attaboy: Hehe. That's what I did, too. But I converted it to a Debian package first before installing. I just followed the steps from the how-to.
[09:12] <_sEBAs_> i think it's not working
[09:12] <_sEBAs_> i have try it in the sun web site verify installation :P
[09:13] <DizzyDiz> Yeah, the Sun JRE 1.5 is showing in my Synaptic
[09:13] <DizzyDiz> I don't know about the JDK
[09:13] <DizzyDiz> There's a free jdk available, though I don't know how good it is
[09:13] <joe_attaboy> rraajj: ah, yes, the how-to. I guess I'm old-fashioned. too many years using slackware. ;-)
[09:13] <DizzyDiz> To be honest, Eclipse is a JDK in it's own right
[09:14] <DizzyDiz> And that's available in Synaptic
[09:21] <Zerak> I am a newbie when it comes to linux but i got a problem that you people might be able to solve, i am running Kubunt - Dapper drake (yes i know its just a beta =) )
[09:21] <joe_attaboy> Zerak: yep, it is ;-)
[09:21] <Zerak> my sound is kind of screwed, its sounds terrible
[09:22] <Zerak> like the subwofer would be connected to the speakers, just a BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU =)
[09:22] <_sEBAs_> where i can find good repositories?
[09:22] <jpatrick> the default ones
[09:23] <joe_attaboy> Zerak: have you tried playing with kmix to adjust the levels?
[09:23] <joe_attaboy> I'm assuming you have sound on the system, right?
[09:23] <Zerak> yep, worked before and works in windows (ashamed) =)
[09:24] <joe_attaboy> don't be ashamed. we'vel been there. ;-)
[09:24] <joe_attaboy> all been there...
[09:24] <joe_attaboy> grrrr, fingers
[09:24] <Zerak> aha i might found the error
[09:29] <ctothej> is it possible that my x server is starting, but not running KDE?
[09:30] <Zerak> Ubuntu, gnome =)
[09:31] <joe_attaboy> what are the symptoms ctothej?
[09:31] <ctothej> output to the monitor after bootup (i can check from monitor info), but it is just a black screen.
[09:32] <joe_attaboy> no prompt?
[09:32] <ctothej> the resolution changes when i make changes to xorg.conf ...
[09:32] <ctothej> no prompt
[09:32] <ctothej> just black output
[09:32] <ctothej> no errors at bottom of Xorg.0.log
[09:33] <joe_attaboy> if no prompt, sounds like the OS is stuck on something. can you change the runlevel and boot to a prompt to see if you can load the system?
[09:34] <ctothej> whats the best way to do that?
[09:34] <ctothej> from grub or a config file?
[09:35] <joe_attaboy> edit /etc/inittab as root, change the default runlevel (id: line at  the top) to "1". This boots single user mode with no X. then reboot
[09:35] <joe_attaboy> standby
[09:36] <joe_attaboy> wait
[09:36] <joe_attaboy> let me check something
[09:36] <ctothej> ok
[09:37] <joe_attaboy> yes, use runlevel 1. the default is 2 for X, but the others (3,4,5) also load kdm on my Kubuntu system, so they won't help.
[09:37] <ctothej> done, restart?
[09:37] <joe_attaboy> If the system jams on the new runlevel, then the problem isn't X or KDE
[09:37] <joe_attaboy> yes, reboot
[09:39] <ctothej> almost there..
[09:39] <DizzyDiz> I'm a little concerned. Is Dapper Drake stable enough for daily use?
[09:40] <DizzyDiz> How many of you use Dapper comfortably?
[09:40] <ctothej> seems to be stuck on "Sending all processes the TERM signal...". theres no OK after
[09:40] <joe_attaboy> ?
[09:40] <DizzyDiz> Cause I wanna update tonight but I don't want any show stopper issues when I come in tomorrow
[09:40] <joe_attaboy> ctothej: that's usually something you see on shutdown.
[09:41] <DizzyDiz> I'm thinking anything has got to be better than what I face today
[09:41] <ctothej> well, ive been playing with the wrong file (xorg.conf)
[09:41] <ctothej> yeah this is weird.
[09:41] <ctothej> it comes right after "Setting up ICE socket directory... [ok] "
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> I've been having these crazy anomolies in KDE only when running Java apps
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> A window will open and immediately go into shade mode
[09:42] <joe_attaboy> well. maybe not. This doesn't sound like an X problem, it sounds like an init issue, something in a script is telling the system to TERM
[09:42] <DizzyDiz> Or open in such a large way that the titlebar and other parts fall off screen
[09:43] <DizzyDiz> I've also been having problems in kontact...
[09:43] <ctothej> i pressed ctrl alt f1 and got...
[09:44] <ctothej> PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 3 of device 0000:00:00.0
[09:44] <DizzyDiz> When I schedule something in the calendar I get two alrams
[09:44] <joe_attaboy> have you made any hardware changes, ctothej?
[09:44] <ctothej> Loading, please wait... /n 2 logical volume(s) in volume group "Ubuntu" now active
[09:44] <ctothej> and then it stops
[09:44] <ctothej> no. i just installed it...
[09:45] <joe_attaboy> stand by
[09:45] <ctothej> i finally got my drivers for my graphics card installed
[09:45] <ctothej> and then this
[09:46] <MEtaLpREs> i think dapper just killed on of my hard disks, ive been trying to get fglrx working and after about 4 tries now my main drive seems to be dead, takes about 5mins just to get past post and then hangs trying to load grub and wont go any further
[09:47] <joe_attaboy> ctothej: that may be the problem. are they nVidia drivers?
[09:47] <ctothej> ati
[09:47] <joe_attaboy> ok.
[09:47] <ctothej> latest from their site. used: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
[09:48] <joe_attaboy> I know there have been nVidia issues. Sounds like the drivers are trying to load something at a speficic address and the system doesn't want to.
[09:48] <SimAtWork> hey guys
[09:48] <ctothej> difficult to troubleshoot?
[09:48] <joe_attaboy> Have you just tried a straight install, without the drivers? Let the install detect the hardware on its own?
[09:48] <SimAtWork> is there a meta package for all the diff apps you need to use ./configure ?
[09:49] <ctothej> yeah. i needed to install drivers because of the hardware
[09:49] <joe_attaboy> ctothej: "difficult" is a relative term. ;-)
[09:49] <ctothej> x server failed after initial install
[09:49] <joe_attaboy> what kind of card for the video?
[09:49] <ctothej> hehe :)
[09:49] <ctothej> x1900
[09:50] <joe_attaboy> agp or pci?
[09:50] <ctothej> pci-e
[09:50] <joe_attaboy> is there a dedicated slot for it on the mobo?
[09:50] <ctothej> yes
[09:50] <ctothej> PCI:1:0:0
[09:50] <ctothej> as lspci has told me
[09:51] <joe_attaboy> damn. with pci cards, I've seen times where switching slots makes broken stuff work.
[09:51] <joe_attaboy> hang on...
[09:51] <ctothej> unfortunately i cant. only 1 primary pci-e slot available
[09:52] <joe_attaboy> ok, here's one more thing. You'll have to edit the grub menu.lst file to send an option to the kernel
[09:52] <joe_attaboy> so
[09:53] <joe_attaboy> try this option: "pci=routeirq"
[09:53] <joe_attaboy> change your runlevel back to 2 first.
[09:53] <joe_attaboy> then restart and see if that works.
[09:56] <Ryoga85> is there a firewall in kubuntu?
[09:56] <ctothej> back to the black screen
[09:56] <joe_attaboy> hmmm
[09:56] <_sEBAs_> yes
[09:56] <ctothej> want me to pastebin the kern.log ?
[09:57] <joe_attaboy> well, I'm kind of stumped. Do you nave another video card you can try, agp or straight pci?
[09:58] <ctothej> no onboard video...
[09:58] <joe_attaboy> no, don't pastebin for me, as I have to get back to work. But hang in there. Someone here might have an idea. Maybe the kernel doesn't support the pci-e video yet?
[09:58] <ctothej> maybe not, but i think others have had it work.
[09:59] <joe_attaboy> have you posted in the #ubuntu channel at all?
[09:59] <ctothej> ive been back and forth, not with this specific problem though
[10:00] <joe_attaboy> I have to run, but I'll be back in later. if you're here, I'll ping you to see if you've made any progress
[10:00] <joe_attaboy> have you visited the Kubuntu forums web site?
[10:00] <ctothej> not yet
[10:00] <ctothej> i searched ubuntu's
[10:01] <joe_attaboy> http://kubuntuforums.net/
[10:01] <ctothej> thanks for the help
[10:01] <joe_attaboy> good site, lots of helpful people.
[10:01] <ctothej> nice
[10:01] <joe_attaboy> sorry I couldn't do more.
[10:01] <joe_attaboy> later
[10:01] <ctothej> later
[10:07] <DaSkreech> Hey they resolved the uprising :)
[10:08] <DaSkreech> Well are resolving :)
[10:13] <zblach> hey. quick bit of strangeness
[10:13] <zblach> all the sudden, my soundserver died
[10:17] <ctothej> hey, how can i format lspci output so that i can read it all?
[10:18] <chowells2> "read it all" ?
[10:18] <ctothej> it scrolls more than my screen
[10:18] <chowells2> lspci | less
[10:18] <chowells2> works with any command
[10:18] <ctothej> great thank you
[10:19] <method|> anyone know how can I make konqueror use my mouse theme? When i click on a link it has some ugly cursor with a watch. It doesn't use my clearlook cursor with the spinning blue dots
[10:19] <ctothej> what do you think of this output when loading: PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 3 of device 0000:00:00.0 where 0000:00:00.0 is Host bridge: ATI Technologie Inc: Unknown Device 5952
[10:20] <ctothej> also, how do i exit from less
[10:22] <Blissex> ctothej: "q"
[10:22] <ctothej> Blissex: thanks
[10:23] <Blissex> ctothej: as to your question about PCI, that does not look too awesome. Thats the host bridge, and the resource region 3 might useful or not.
[10:24] <Blissex> ctothej: guessing very wildly, maybe your ATI chipset has a builtin video card and you have a non builtin one and they conflict. But it may be very wide of the mark.
[10:24] <ctothej> there is no onboard video out though..
[10:25] <ctothej> the mobo needs a graphics card
[10:27] <Hoobly> where can I find a tutorial for installing KDE that is step by step for a dummy?
[10:29] <Blissex> Hoobly: thats a very very bad idea :-)
[10:29] <_sEBAs_> first you have to install something else before
[10:29] <Blissex> Hoobly: however the KDE site has a guide for compiling from CVS.
[10:29] <Zerak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE
[10:30] <Zerak> if you got ubuntu which i suppose
[10:30] <Hoobly> id
[10:30] <Hoobly> i do
[10:31] <Hoobly> ubunto installed running gnome
[10:31] <Zerak> i think i have enabled the repos.. but cant find:  akode-mpeg
[10:31] <Blissex> Hoobly: why not just install the precompiled KDE from Kubuntu? It is very recent too.
[10:32] <_sEBAs_> it's a tuto in the guia-ubuntu.org, but its in spanish :P
[10:32] <_sEBAs_> yes, i have it install the dapper beta 2 and it really works fine :D
[10:32] <Hoobly> Blissex: I think that is my best bet.  I was trying to use the package install method as a learning experience
[10:33] <_sEBAs_> and it's have the KDE 3.5
[10:33] <Blissex> Hoobly: naaaa, it takes a _long_ time and it is pretty hard work to get KDE instlled from source.
[10:33] <Hoobly> OK
[10:33] <DaSkreech> Hoobly: repeat after me
[10:33] <Hoobly> so format and install kubuntu from image?
[10:33] <Blissex> Hoobly: also, with that you lose the ability to use 'dpkg' and 'apt-get' to install and uninstall.
[10:33] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:33] <_sEBAs_> uuuhh
[10:34] <Blissex> Hoobly: no need to reinstall, do as <DaSkreech> says.
[10:34] <Hoobly> DaSkreech: tried that.  I must have done something wrong
[10:34] <DaSkreech> what happened?
[10:34] <_sEBAs_> i did that and it don't really work good
[10:34] <DaSkreech> You have not reached enlightenment?
[10:34] <DaSkreech> Umm ... wait :-|
[10:34] <Blissex> Hoobly: you can also use Aptitude and Synaptic to list the KDE packages and pick-and-choose, they have their own category.
[10:35] <Hoobly> DaSkreech: E: couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[10:35] <DaSkreech> Never mind about enlightenment :)
[10:35] <Zerak> check rep.
[10:35] <DaSkreech> Hoobly: can you apt-get install anything else?
[10:35] <Hoobly> I haven't tried anything else
[10:35] <Blissex> Hoobly: as <Zerak> says make sure you have recent repositories in '/etc/apt/sources.list'.
[10:36] <Zerak> done this ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:36] <Hoobly> Zerak: I tried this --> http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5668
[10:37] <MEtaLpREs> anyone know about fixing grub errors? i got an error 17, which i guess is an unrecognized fs, how can I fix that?
[10:38] <Zerak> and where did it fail? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:38] <Zerak> which step
[10:39] <DaSkreech> !source-o-matic
[10:39] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:39] <Zerak> Hoobly: which step of the guide
[10:44] <Zerak> cant find: akode-mpeg and i am almost sure i got all rep. enabled
[10:45] <Hoobly> Zerak: after running sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, I get E: Broken Packages
[10:45] <slow-motion> re
[10:46] <Zerak> Hoobly: never said you should do that on the guide you showed me and that you had done
[10:47] <Zerak> but you could try to fix the package by -f or maybe removing and reinstalling it
[10:48] <Hoobly> Zerak: how do I go about removing and then reinstalling?
[10:48] <Zerak> remove and install
[10:49] <Zerak> apt-get remove <package>
[10:49] <Zerak> a pure guess that might work, dont know apt-get to well, dont know linux so well
[10:50] <inteliwasp> is there a reason why my ipod does not say that i can "safely remove" after i umount it from the desktop?
[10:50] <Hoobly> how do I get a list of packages installed so I know which to remove?
[10:51] <SimAtWork> when i run ./Configure i get an error about gcc not able to make executables?
[10:51] <SimAtWork> this is a new kubuntu install
[10:51] <Zerak> same as you did when installing
[10:51] <SimAtWork> the latest beta
[10:51] <SimAtWork> any ideas what i'm missing?
[10:51] <NoUse> SimAtWork install build-essential
[10:52] <inteliwasp> also, how do i set that a DVD movie is only mounted and kafine does not auto play it?
[10:52] <SimAtWork> NoUse: aha! thank you.
[10:52] <SimAtWork> i figured it'd be something easy like that.,
[10:53] <Zerak> can anyone find: akode-mpeg by apt-get?
[10:55] <buddho> inteliwasp : after unmounting, type 'df -h' to check what is mounted
[10:55] <NoUse> !info akode-mpeg
[10:55] <ubotu> akode-mpeg: (akode mpeg plugin), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 92 kB
[10:55] <NoUse> Zerak its in universe
[10:56] <inteliwasp> buddho: just my normal system
[10:56] <buddho> if it is not mounted you should be able to remove it safely
[10:57] <Zerak> got them all enabled except cdrom: Alpha but really cant find them, dapper drake
[10:57] <inteliwasp> ya that's what i'm doing
[10:58] <Zerak> or is it the same as libakode2-mpeg but this is for dapper drake (info seems correct)
[11:01] <sladen> chowells2: Regarding the volume keys on the X60s ... are you testing with Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu?
[11:02] <sladen> chowells2: in which case I think they're broken, but I'd like you to test some xmodmap'ing for me
[11:13] <SimAtWork> i have a weird problem
[11:13] <SimAtWork> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=synergy&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[11:14] <SimAtWork> shows synergy
[11:14] <SimAtWork> but apt-cache serach synergy does not
[11:14] <SimAtWork> i have enabled the "universe" in sources.list
[11:19] <xst> How do I get superkaramba for kubuntu?
[11:20] <xst> (or some similar desktop widget tool)
[11:21] <SimAtWork> xst, you should be able to just apt-get install it.
[11:21] <xst> But doesn't it come as part of some kde-package?
[11:22] <SimAtWork> you'll need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file to allow for "universe" packages
[11:22] <SimAtWork> then just apt-get install superkaramba
[11:22] <SimAtWork> you might want to isntall synaptic
[11:22] <xst> ok thanks
[11:22] <fatmike> hallo
[11:23] <SimAtWork> even better would be "ksynaptics" actually
[11:23] <fatmike> question: how can i get a 'show desktop'-button on my kde taskbar?
[11:24] <SimAtWork> NOT ksynaptics xst
[11:24] <SimAtWork> sorry about that
[11:24] <SimAtWork> that's not at all what i thought it was
[11:25] <xst> SimAtWork: Hehe, I just asked over at #kde and found that kdeutils had it. thanks anyways ;-)
[11:27] <DaSkreec1> adept rocks :-)
[11:27] <SimAtWork> does it?
[11:27] <SimAtWork> i haven't tried adept
[11:27] <SimAtWork> i hvaen't used debian/ubuntu much since i found gentoo
[11:27] <SimAtWork> just tryingit out again cause of the new version
[11:28] <SimAtWork> ita ctually looks great
[11:28] <DaSkreec1> It's pretty sweet
[11:28] <DaSkreec1> First time I was wable to remove kde with one action
[11:28] <Daskreech> It's a pain with anything else :)
[11:31] <Daskreech> apparently it is broken with the kubuntu CD though You have to run sudo debtags update to get it working
[11:41] <iNiku> hmm, why is the system menu in the panel empty?
[11:43] <LeeJunFan> Ack! arts is eatin 390M of my ram! heh
[11:46] <jind> You've got a fat arts
[11:47] <DjDarkman> hy ,if i download something from a windows user with special charecters in the filename ,i get garbage ,how can i fix it?.
[11:49] <Seantater> DjDarkman: what broke?
[11:50] <Seantater> DjDarkman: what "garbage" are you getting?
[11:50] <abimanyu> hai friends
[11:51] <DjDarkman> Seantater: for example if i have an  or  or something in the filename i get something else
[11:51] <abimanyu> which language r u useing seantater
[11:52] <Seantater> abimanyu: english
[11:52] <Seantater> abimanyu: But I'm not having problems, DjDarkman is..
[11:52] <abimanyu> go to language setting n see is it set to english
[11:53] <abimanyu> n check keyboard layout type also
[11:53] <Seantater> DjDarkman: If you get  's juct change the font, and one of them;s gotta have that character..
[11:53] <DjDarkman> nope Seantater this is something else
[11:53] <Seantater> Like ;%^*&%&^% stuff?
[11:54] <Seantater> I don't 100% understand your problem..
[11:55] <DjDarkman> wait please i`ll try to find an example
[11:57] <Seantater> Sorry -- I clicked the wrond button and kde crashed..
[11:57] <Seantater> DjDarkman: still there?
[11:57] <DjDarkman> yes
[11:58] <Seantater> DjDarkman: Have you found an example [did I miss it}?
[11:58] <DjDarkman> well i found one with xmms
[11:58] <DjDarkman> darkman.tx.hu/s/char.png
[11:58] <yanis> there is a very serious bug in Konqueror;_a lot of_ times when I download a picture from the web it doesn't load it.
[11:58] <Seantater> ubuntu-offtopic asked me to leave because they wanted to have 66 people instead of 67..
[11:58] <yanis> does anybody have any experience with iths problem?
[11:59] <Seantater> yanis: what version of kde/konq?
[11:59] <yanis> Seantater: 3.5.1 both
[12:00] <Seantater> DjDarkman:  try typing "dir" (no quotes) into a konsole. see if it happens there.
[12:00] <Seantater> yanis: I use KDE 3.5.2, no problems..
[12:01] <yanis> Seantater: that happens when I open a pic in a new window. It seems like it loads for ever
[12:01] <Seantater> yanis: are you using the digikam plugin or anything?
[12:01] <DjDarkman> the console shows it as it is
[12:01] <yanis> no Seantater
[12:01] <Seantater> DjDarkman: Just to make sure -- did you type enter so "dir" could execute?
[12:02] <DjDarkman> where i have my music
[12:02] <DjDarkman> ?