=== kl [n=kail@dslb-082-083-107-197.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:04] i making a patch to add a depend to a package. [12:05] i suppose that i had to edit debian/control [12:05] but which ? control or control.in ? [12:05] what's the difference ? === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:10] <\sh> depends...cdbs has a mechanism to have a control.in template which is substituted with some values and results in control ... so in this case, control.in is the correct way...but for this you have to check the debian/rules file first and read cdbs documentation [12:15] thanks \sh [12:16] see you later === bmonty [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Harti [n=Harti@dslb-082-083-241-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["-carpe] [12:47] jordi: bug 41678 is a UVF [12:47] Malone bug 41678 in ispellcat "Please sync with Debian unstable" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41678 === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:48] jordi: include a changelog and e-mail matt and colin === Gman [n=gman@nwkea-socks-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tovella [n=ktraglin@ool-182c9fa8.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:23] not sure how to get this problem to developers, so i'm presenting it here. i don't expect any help with it, just wanted to let someone know. [01:23] [lspci -vv |grep -i adaptec] [01:23] results in the following: [01:23] 0000:02:00.0 Memory controller: Adaptec AIC-7815 RAID+Memory Controller IC (rev 02) [01:23] Subsystem: Adaptec: Unknown device 7846 [01:23] 0000:02:04.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec 78902 (rev 01) [01:23] Subsystem: Adaptec AAA-131U2 Array1000 1 Channel RAID Controller [01:23] [dmesg |grep -i 'aic'] [01:23] results in the following: [01:23] [ 129.386387] aic7xxx: Unknown symbol spi_populate_sync_msg [01:23] [ 129.388363] aic7xxx: Unknown symbol spi_populate_width_msg [01:23] [ 129.389222] aic7xxx: Unknown symbol spi_populate_ppr_msg === \sh__ [n=shermann@xdsl-81-173-252-28.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:27] tovella, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug [01:27] ...if there's something, what fails === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-54-78.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KOnsumer [n=KOnsumer@drsd-d9b843a1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:08] Gah, where's doko? [02:09] asleep, I'd think [02:09] mdke: Is he the go to for a python question? [02:09] bddebian: no idea. I'd guess #python is a good bet [02:09] I mean python wrt Ubuntu [02:10] I'm getting ready to rip 2.1 out of pychecker and I'm thinking I should rip 2.2 out as well [02:13] bddebian: well then yes, I think he is. [02:14] bddebian: do you mean as modes, or as dependencies ? [02:14] bddebian: or as 'runs under' ? [02:17] lifeless: All of the above? [02:20] well, its useful for folk writing portable python to know about 'will break on 2.2' even if they are using 2.4 themselves [02:22] lifeless: Fair enough but how long are we keeping 2.2 in the archive? [02:22] how are the two things related ? [02:22] is there a disadvantage to keeping packages in the archive? [02:23] mdke: yes [02:23] lifeless: Because if I leave python2.2 as a dep/build-dep for pychecker and it no longer exists..? [02:23] bddebian: I'm talking about it being able to check for 2.2 issues. Does that need python 2.2 ? [02:23] lifeless: what is the disadvantage? [02:23] lifeless: I don't know the answer to that unfortunately [02:24] bddebian: in which case, you can't answer 'how are the two things related' :)... thats what I'd aim to find out [02:25] Why do I even try.. :'-( === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@222.33.71.116] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=nico@p508D87D7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KOnsi [n=KOnsumer@drsd-d9b8560c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:03] whee, libpam-abl is packaged by debian [03:03] happy day [03:03] heh [03:03] that's going to be a popular dapper backport === slomo__ [n=slomo@p5486FB65.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:57] heylo [03:58] Heya zul [03:58] hey bddebian [04:07] I've been looking at samba a bit and changing the passdb backend to plaintext seems like it would behave as expected for most users... [04:07] any thoughts? === lakin_ [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:13] Hmm, I didn't get an accept or reject for pychecker === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:42] hi question: I wanted to request/work on a feature for the edgy espresso partitioning tool, a dual boot 'option' in the partitioning tool, should I put that in as feature request in malone or should I add it as a braindump on the wiki? [04:42] I asked in #launchpad they told me to ask here [04:42] also can I look at the espresso roadmap to make sure this isnt planned already === poningru looks around for watson [04:48] poningru: what are you trying to do? There is planned a "delete these partitions and install ubuntu into them" features [04:49] basically a single option that will [04:50] look at the ntfs partition to see if its non-fragmented enough and then makes it smaller, and formats that extra space with a linux fs [04:50] poningru: it should already do that [04:50] 0.0 === Gman [n=gman@nwkea-socks-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:51] Gman: so, is gcj about to become obsolete overnight? [04:51] rofl === Lathiat wonders why it would [04:51] Lathiat: the whole rumor about java going open [04:51] did they OS java? :) [04:52] oh, heh, only a rumour, fpf :) === bddebian vomits [04:52] bddebian: does the word make you break into hives? [04:53] I'm just unimpressed with Java I guess [04:53] woo go .NET [04:53] err I mean... === poningru goes back to his corner [04:53] heh [04:54] Burgundavia, couldn't possibly comment :) [04:55] [mostly because i don't know] [04:58] Who's maintaining uploads these days? Kamion and infinity? [04:58] Or is lamont still also? === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-43.1.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.99] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _mike_ [n=mike@220.157.65.99] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-43.1.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Xof [n=mas01cr@gibbons.doc.gold.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:47] bddebian: What do you mean by "maintaining uploads"? [06:47] bddebian: Uploaders (ie: you) "maintain uploads". :) [06:48] infinity: I uploaded pychecker but got no accept/reject? [06:48] And no it's not unstable :-) === infinity looks. [06:48] No, lamont doesn't have access to look at the upload queue, and never has had. [06:49] Oh, hmm [06:49] So I'm clueless, what can I say === infinity puzzles over why this upload failed. [06:51] what key id and e-mail did you use to sign the upload? [06:52] bddebian@comcast.net as always [06:54] No periods in my email addresses ;-P === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:54] infinity: Should I just try it again? [06:59] You should have a reject now... [07:00] Ack, shit, how'd I miss that being in main? === bddebian turns in his MOTU badge === Rotund [n=joe@207-118-202-188.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:01] Of course, I'd still like to know why the upload queue failed to process it the first time, and you only got a reject after I re-processed it, but whatever... [07:01] One bug at a time. :/ [07:02] would this be a a place to ask about Summer of Code questions particular to Ubuntu? [07:03] Oh, that was the same bug that's blocking syncs. I wonder if that means someone's jimmied it in production to make it happy again? === infinity wanders off to try a sync. [07:04] infinity: word is that "syncs should be fixed early next week, you'll be pleased to know" [07:05] crimsun: I know what the bug report says about them too (should be rolled out tomorrow), but that doesn't change the fact that bddebian's upload failed due to the same bug that was blocking syncs... And when I just retried the upload, it didn't fail (it rejected, but that's his fault). [07:05] So, yeah. Let me entertain a fantasy here for a few seconds. [07:07] Oh, no, I guess it was two bugs with seemingly identical symptoms. Nevermind. [07:08] Two bddebian bugs? :-( [07:08] :-) [07:12] Unless you've been comitting code to launchpad lately, I think we can let you off the hook for this bug. [07:13] bddebian: Anyhow, do you want to send me the debdiff for that pychecker upload, and I can sign and upload it if it looks cool? [07:13] bddebian: I'm perfectly happy with MOTU fixing bugs in main for me. :) [07:14] (Yes, I could just grab your upload from the REJECTED queue, I guess, but that seems to be in poor taste/form..) [07:17] I can do a quick debdiff I guess. Want me to throw it up somwhere? [07:18] Actually, screw bad form. I'll just pull it from the rejected queue. :) [07:18] (Or rather, I already have) [07:19] It's pretty small. I just ripped python2.1 from it [07:20] OK, 1am, I gotta get to bed. Gnight folks [07:20] Thanks infinity [07:20] What a bizarre package.. [07:21] I wonder what the maintainer had against just depending on "python". [07:22] I think it needs all to check syntax for each version [07:22] Anyhow, there's no harm in allowing it to still install and run with python2.1, even though we no longer ship it, so I won't bother uploading this at all. [07:23] Software that works with old packages isn't inherently buggy. :) [07:23] (If it also works with new ones, which this one does) [07:23] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/python2.1/+bug/41510 [07:23] Malone bug 41510 in python2.1 "[UNMETDEPS] python2.1 has unmet dependencies" [Normal,Confirmed] [07:24] It and jython were the last rdepends for 2.1, then it can be removed [07:24] We can remove packages while things still depend on them, if the dependency is an OR. [07:24] jython is the only blocker. [07:24] Hmm, good point [07:24] (Well, we can remove packages anyway, but we don't like to break the archive) [07:24] jython can get removed as well [07:25] Anyway I give up. Gnight [07:26] infinity: If you don't mind taking a look at the debdiff for bug #41367, please, I'd be grateful. (I've built and confirmed it fixes the issue; I'm currently running it now with no problems.) [07:26] Malone bug 41367 in alsa-lib "dmix consumes 100% CPU with 32-bit userspace on 64-bit kernel" [Normal,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41367 === Gman is now known as GmanAFK [07:32] crimsun: Though I'm alsa-illiterate, most of the fixes in those patches look "obviously correct" and quite simple. I'm balking at the fix for that specific bug, though. Did process_timer_event() really do nothing useful?... Oh. Nevermind. It really did nothing useful. [07:32] Then my only quibble is this: [07:32] +-snd_timer_read(dmix->timer, &rbuf, sizeof(rbuf)); [07:32] ++snd_timer_read(dmix->timer, rbuf, sizeof(rbuf)); [07:32] [...] [07:32] + snd_timer_read(dmix->timer, &rbuf, sizeof(rbuf)); [07:33] Can we be consistent about that type and how we access it? :) [07:33] (Not knowing the context, I don't know which is correct, though I suspect the change is correct, and it just needs to be made in more places) === Treenaks_ [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:37] infinity: it's pulled from upstream, but I'll ping Takashi about it. === Treenaks_ is now known as Treenaks === bluetoad [n=ubuntu@b326E.static.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Treenaks_ [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@222.33.71.116] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kagou [n=kagou@84.6.215.47] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:46] morning === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@222.50.183.45] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Oculus [n=oculus@pD9508855.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Treenaks_ is now known as Treenaks === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.75.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.75.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:44] morning all [09:49] hi sivang === crito [n=crito@mach.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-88-217-5-17.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:02] highvoltage: did you get anywhere with the netboot test of the preseed? [10:02] hey highvoltage , how's it going? [10:03] ubijtsa: yes, i made some changes to the pxelinux config so that it's the same as my isolinux config [10:04] ubijtsa: but then i realised that my preseed in there points to /cdrom/preeseed/preseed.seed [10:04] ubijtsa: which of course isn't available, and you need user to tweak things a bit too far to make this specific test applicable to that [10:05] sivang: public holiday here today, so I can't complain :) [10:06] highvoltage: I understand :) [10:06] ubijtsa: i'm going to have to make it network installable at some point though. i'll do that as soon as the cd boot works fine. netboot+++ === dborg [n=daniel@e182055118.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:07] highvoltage: netboot rocks... :) [10:08] highvoltage: what are you trying to make netinstallable+ [10:08] ? [10:10] fabbione: it's just a tuxlab setup cd, i had some trouble with the preseed, so i wanted to find a way of testing the validity of a preseed before writing the CD [10:10] d-i just said it's an invalid preeseed and didn't give more info [10:11] but i think it was lines that I wrapped by adding a "\" that caused it [10:11] highvoltage: did you check /var/log/syslog ? [10:11] merged some things into one line, and then it worked. [10:11] admittingly, not :/ [10:11] so ubijtsa suggested that i use netboot to test the preseeds [10:11] do it next time [10:11] ok, noted :) [10:12] because preseeding from cd/netboot is slightly different [10:12] in regards for choose-mirror setup [10:12] i noticed :) [10:12] can i specify that in pxelinux.cfg? [10:13] yes choose-mirror is preseedable [10:13] but there is a limit on the number of info you can pass via kernel cmdline [10:13] what i did last time was to provide the minimal amount of info to kernel cmdline to be able to download the preseed file from a web server [10:13] that will work [10:14] but you might still get one question asked at boot because the preseeding simply doesn't fit in the kernel cmdline [10:14] ah, that would work for me too. [10:14] and preseed is loaded only after that [10:14] one question is good. it means that someone won't accidentally boot to the network and accidentally loose all their data. [10:16] i'm starting to really like d-i. i should've moved away from my hacky dialog / bash scripts ages ago. === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.99] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Harti [n=Harti@dslb-082-083-240-067.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === \sh [n=shermann@unaffiliated/sh/x-000000002] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nikusan [n=dan@d58-108-81-175.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@222.33.71.116] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:52] which preseed option is there to disable the HTTP proxy information question in d-i? [11:01] highvoltage: preseed it :) [11:01] it's in the documentation === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:03] <\sh> morning fabbione :) [11:03] hi \sh === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:06] <\sh> I wonder if I can reproduce this ubiquity crash with kdeui on amd64..this is really a weired one === Harti [n=Harti@dslb-082-083-240-067.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["-carpe] === Fjodor [n=sune@0x55510b65.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Risky_ [n=Risky@p1243-ipad408osakakita.osaka.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Risky_ [n=Risky@p1243-ipad408osakakita.osaka.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving..."] === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:23] <\sh> Kamion: dunno if you are awake, but can you tell me something about component/language.py and the generated language_choice_map? it looks like a python dict, where the key is the language and then a list is the value...dunno if I read it the correct way [11:31] ah, found it :) === ben-2006 [n=Ben@cpc3-hatf3-0-0-cust249.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:32] hey all, got a question regarding developing for ubuntu (and well linux in general). What is the main codebase for ubuntu? C++ or Python or a strong mixture? And how do you get a UI to work under both Grome and KDE - does GTK+ work it out? [11:32] ben-2006: Gnome use gtk, KDE use Qt and they are quite different [11:33] so you can't make a app which works in both? [11:33] ben-2006: although both will work on both if you have the libraries install [11:33] however, most people will have libraries for both installed [11:33] ben-2006: Strictly this channel is for the development /of/ Ubuntu, rather than development in Ubuntu [11:33] *installed [11:33] mjg59: oh sorry :( [11:33] ben-2006: However, applications written in either toolkit will work in either environment (providing the toolkit libraries are present) [11:33] The X protocol is the same in both cases [11:33] ahh thats cool === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:34] Outside KDE, most application development is probably still in C. Python is also common. There are a few notable C++ apps, such as Mozilla and Openoffice [11:34] KDE is almost entirely C++ [11:35] what kind of apps are developed using Python?? (i want to get into linux development - or at least have more experience in it) [11:35] ben-2006: python would be your best bet for getting started. you can contribute in many ways if you know some python. [11:36] ben-2006: but let's move this to #ubuntu, we're there too, and will answer your questions there [11:36] ok :) [11:39] morning pitti [11:40] morning mjg59 [11:40] hi sivang [11:41] <\sh> moins sivang, pitti [11:42] if a package has in the depends line: A | B , B does it chose B because it's twice? [11:42] need to make a dep explicit rather then relying on dpkg guessing it [11:42] hi \sh [11:43] and A |B is put there by shlibs [11:43] janimo: either that, or it installs A and B [11:43] ah, and A conflicts/replaces B :) [11:43] it's the gnumeric/gnumeric-gtk thing matt answered on the list [11:44] I guess I'll have to try and see. But since lintian used to complain if a dep is listed twice I did not think there could be such uses for duplicating deps [11:45] <\sh> woooha [11:45] <\sh> what do I get when I fixed kde-ui of ubiquity on amd64 ? [11:45] <\sh> what what? [11:45] <\sh> Riddell.... [11:46] <\sh> damn...that's giving me a high... [11:46] \sh: is ubi not entirely python? [11:47] why does the arch matter? [11:47] <\sh> yes but it had a regression on amd64 only because of some strange unicode stuff... [11:47] what was the buf? [11:47] bug? [11:47] <\sh> start it on amd64, click the first next step and come to language selection it will crash === herzi [n=herzi@c180238.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lucas [n=lucas@d80-170-194-29.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F768D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:56] pitti: ping? [11:56] hi fabbione [11:56] pitti: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/hal/2006-April/005078.html === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@195-23-238-213.nr.ip.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:56] according to some very clueful guys, we need that to fix endianess issues [11:56] (serious ones) === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:58] fabbione: sure, I can test and apply the patch at some time this week [11:59] pitti: ok great thanks === crito [n=crito@mach.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-50-7f-27-b6-d8.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ploum [n=ploum@ubuntu/member/ploum] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.106] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@222.33.71.116] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.2.190.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.181.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bluetoad [n=ubuntu@b326E.static.pacific.net.au] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.181.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GmanAFK is now known as Gman === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-devel === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.99] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@88-107-8-94.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:19] hi all [01:24] does anyone have a large icon for the update manager? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:29] jono: the icon is in SVG here [01:29] its png here [01:29] (if we are talking about the same icon) [01:29] the litte orange update icon that sits in the notification rea [01:29] area [01:30] oh, I tought that you were talking about the icon in the menu [01:30] sorry [01:30] no worries [01:30] is there a way I can force the update bubble to pop up? [01:30] the one that says you have updates? [01:30] jsgotangco: yes [01:31] jono: downgrade a package. [01:31] jono: comment a line in your /etc/apt/sources, apt-get update, put the line again, re-apt-get-update [01:31] (at least, I'd assume it'd pop up then) [01:31] that's how I do it [01:34] how do I downgrade a package? [01:35] jono: if it's in your package database, simply : [01:35] apt-get install package=0.0.1.2 [01:36] where 0.0.1.2 is the version number you want to install [01:36] availables versions are shown using [01:36] apt-cache policy package [01:36] bye bye warty === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:36] if you have an old deb file, you can also dpkg -i package.deb [01:37] what the name of this fruit/vegetable in english : http://www.boolsite.net/images/previews/Divers/Nourriture_Boisson/_prev/Avocat.jpg ? [01:38] that's an avocado [01:38] ploum: avocado afaik [01:38] jono: why not using this as the planetadvocacy logo :-) [01:39] (in french, advocate and avocado are the same word. And are quite similar in english) [01:39] ploum: :) [01:39] hehe [01:39] lol === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:40] http://french.epochtimes.com/news_images/2005-3-15-sans-titre-avocat.jpg (better resolution) [01:41] I cant find a package with more than one available version [01:42] jono: downoad a breezy package on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [01:42] and dpkg -i it === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:50] there were a ton of uploads today and yesterday, i'd just try to run sudo apt-get update, with luck you have something to update ;) [01:51] (before making fuss about downgrading) [01:51] ogra: na.. too easy [01:51] :) [01:51] we are looking for something that feel like a bit "hackish" [01:52] then patch apt :) === shackan [n=shackan@host6-145.pool8711.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === imc_out [n=nick@cpe-72-224-29-208.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:03] heylo [02:03] Hey anyone know if there's been move to add the EVDO MTU patch to the new dapper kernel? [02:03] no there hasnt === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:03] mjg59: Lyn has an HP8230, is alsa-utils the place to file bugs regarding headphone muting? [02:03] Ah. Okay, thanks zul. Is it on the roadmap? [02:04] imc_out: i dont think so [02:04] sladen: No, kernel [02:04] you might want to open up a bug so the kernel team can ooko at it [02:04] zul, thanks very much.I think I will do that [02:04] I wish I could do more but I can't program to save my life. [02:04] :) === j_ack [n=nico@p508DB622.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Micksa [n=mslade@203-217-18-166.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fjodor [n=sune@daimi-pat.daimi.au.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:26] is there a new beta/flight planned for this week? [02:27] hopefully not [02:27] :) [02:27] i'd like to have some time to work on bugs ... beta releases take an awful lot of time for testing === LinuxJones [n=willy@hlfxns01bbh-142177197021.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KOnsumer [n=KOnsumer@drsd-d9b85d1e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:50] jordi: ping [02:51] Mithrandir: ping [02:51] zul, thanks for the suggestion. I filed the MTU/EVDO thing as Bug # 42356 [02:51] tsdgeos: pong === imc_out is now known as ifr [02:52] Mithrandir: i was told you where working on popcon.ubuntu [02:52] is that right? [02:52] tsdgeos: yes [02:52] any timeframe when it'll begin to wrok? === ifr [n=nick@cpe-72-224-29-208.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === ifr [n=nick@cpe-72-224-29-208.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:53] this week, hopefully [02:53] tsdgeos: yes [02:53] tsdgeos: have you tried the latest version? [02:53] jordi: i told Riddell about the ispell thingy and he told me you should contact Foo or Bar (don't remember names) to get some permission [02:54] jordi: was going to do it now [02:54] Mithrandir: :-) [02:55] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ispellcat/+bug/41678 [02:55] Malone bug 41678 in ispellcat "Please sync with Debian unstable" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [02:55] Kamion: is there anything else I need to do to get this synced? [02:57] jordi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources [02:57] jordi: "Syncs" [02:58] ok, so it's pending [02:58] jordi: Per is still not recognised as incorrect, but that was a bug not related to the others, you want me to open a separate bug? [02:59] the l' and . at end issues seem to have been fixed [03:00] tsdgeos: that's probably a name or something. [03:00] maybe [03:00] Per needs a separate bug, but I guess it's a surname or whatever. [03:00] it seems [03:00] Per i Toms, Job Agusti [03:01] but should surnames be in a dictionary? [03:01] Agull [03:01] I see plenty of them [03:02] ok, np then [03:02] I guess that one could be removed [03:02] as it causes some confusion === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:02] I'll tell joan to see what he thinks about it [03:02] thanks [03:02] Mallac [03:02] heh [03:02] it has this, but not with H [03:03] Astals isn't :) [03:03] does printing work for anyone of you with current dapper? === tsdgeos puts his offended face [03:03] heh [03:03] j/k === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-54-78.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KOnsi [n=KOnsumer@drsd-d9b85633.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:06] I am constantly getting: http://pastebin.com/692143, no matter what I try to print [03:06] and independent of the printer I am printing to === mxpxpod [n=BryanFor@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:09] anyone around who maintains cupsys or gs? [03:09] danimo: cupsys -> me, gs -> Diziet [03:10] pitti: any idea about the output that cups shows in the log file? === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:10] -v please [03:10] (and in kprinter) [03:10] pitti: see the pastebin url above [03:10] ah, I didn't notice that [03:11] danimo: hm, some program generates PS that gs doesn't understand; I don't know whether that's the fault of the application or of gs [03:12] danimo: can you please file a bug against gs, describe the application, attach an example document that reproduces the issue, and so on? [03:12] pitti: ok [03:12] thanks === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:20] Riddell: ping? === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-81-220.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=nico@p508DB622.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-81-220.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Harti [n=Harti@dslb-082-083-190-169.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-81-220.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [03:48] danimo: hi === CarlF1 [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F768D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rgould [n=rgould@mail.refractions.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.106] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zauberer [n=Miranda@ppp-82-135-14-113.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:21] Riddell: kdeutils is FTBFS all over, BTW. === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.106] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:22] infinity: ta [04:24] Riddell: does printing to pdf work for you? [04:24] Riddell: seems like the kprinter backend creates invalid ps [04:25] danimo: doesn't work here [04:25] cups failing with ghostscript ? [04:25] yes [04:25] somehow [04:25] weird [04:25] Tonio_: pitti needs a bugreport [04:26] danimo: yup, I'll have a look at cups logs before ;) === vuntz|afk is now known as vuntz [04:27] danimo: nothing in cups error logs...... [04:27] Tonio_: I had, let me look up the bug number I filed it up [04:27] Tonio_: it was with my kprinter backend, but that should not matter [04:27] danimo: maybe need to wait a bit, I think cups doesn't print errors real time in log files :) [04:27] err, with my printer even [04:28] it does [04:28] danimo: hum....... well the point is that my error logs are still empty ;) [04:29] you need to increase the verbosity in cupsd.conf do "debug" [04:29] Tonio_: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/41800 [04:29] Malone bug 41800 in cupsys "Cups fails to print any file with Brother HL-1430" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [04:29] danimo: that's why okay ;) [04:31] :) [04:32] Tonio_: it's probably not a pure kde bug, since a2ps fails on the same document [04:32] danimo: confirmed [04:32] Tonio_: can you try to print a small pdf via a2ps? [04:32] or convert it to ps with pdf2ps ? [04:33] danimo: it works correctly on my second computer [04:33] at least for pdf [04:34] what the hell is this...... === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.2.190.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:34] no idea [04:34] but I don't really have time to debug it [04:34] as much as I'd like to [04:35] danimo: both dapper up to date, near by default config [04:35] danimo: I am not able too [04:35] Riddell: can you help out? [04:35] Riddell: this looks pretty urgent [04:36] not if it's a cups problem I can't [04:37] Riddell: well, if a2ps works it's probably not a pure cups problem [04:37] cups/ghostscript, that is [04:38] we need to poke Diziet [04:38] Riddell: the strange issue is it works on one of my two machines, both dapper up to date.......; [04:38] and both with a nearby default config === kagou [n=kagou@84.6.215.47] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:38] Tonio_: print to pdf, too? [04:39] danimo: both [04:40] interesting... === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.127.101.4] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Alinux_ [n=Ubuntu@d83-176-122-159.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Alinux_ [n=Ubuntu@d83-176-122-159.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Alinux_ [n=Ubuntu@d83-176-122-159.cust.tele2.it] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === Alinux__ [n=Ubuntu@d83-176-122-159.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Alinux [n=Ubuntu@d83-176-122-159.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Alinux [n=Ubuntu@d83-176-122-159.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Alinux__ [n=AlinuxOS@d83-176-122-159.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Alinux__ [n=AlinuxOS@d83-176-122-159.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Alinux [n=Ubuntu@d83-176-122-159.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1514.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1514.versanet.de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === Alinux [n=Ubuntu@d83-176-122-159.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Alinux__ [n=AlinuxOS@d83-176-122-159.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Harti [n=Harti@dslb-082-083-190-169.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["-carpe] === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Surak [n=Surak@201009098083.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:14] hello [05:14] can anyone confirm bug #19625 ? I don't have any wardware which would need this. [05:14] Malone bug 19625 in Ubuntu "minor numbers > 255 not supported" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/19625 === Treenaks [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === erez [n=erez@CBL217-132-74-184.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:17] Surak: it's the policy just to grab a new major when you hit 256 minors === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:19] Hello [05:19] bddebian: Hello. [05:19] hey bddebian [05:20] Hello sfllaw, zul === Zauberer [n=Miranda@ppp-82-135-14-113.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:25] Kamion: You around by any chance? === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host199-235.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:37] Gloubiboulga: hi [05:38] hi janimo === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.240.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ohoel [n=beshy@proxy-gw.uib.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dieman is trying a hoary -> dapper upgrade for the hell of it [05:45] this should be entertaining === Surak is now known as Surak_away [05:48] dieman: I've done it successfully, the only caveat is you will need to put breezy in sources.list in order to break sysvinit/initscripts/etc pre-depends, and upgrade them first to the breezy version [05:48] ahh [05:49] didn't do that at first [05:49] if i get way stuck up im using vmware, so i can just revert to the checkpoint [05:49] thanks [05:50] wacky [05:50] i first upgraded autofs, and then sysvinit and initscripts and didn't get stuck [05:51] Heya Gloubiboulga [05:51] janimo: You're an xfce person right? [05:51] bddebian: well not xfce upstream [05:51] but I use it [05:51] hi bddebian [05:51]