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| mdke | hi Madpilot | 03:38 |
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| Madpilot | hi mdke | 03:38 |
| mdke | you ok? | 03:38 |
| Madpilot | of course - busy this weekend | 03:42 |
| mdke | good good | 03:42 |
| mdke | -> bed | 03:42 |
| Madpilot | g'night | 03:42 |
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| Madpilot | hi robitaille | 08:07 |
| robitaille | Hi Madpilot | 08:08 |
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| WaterSevenUb | hey guys... can someone explain me what is the intent of website-index? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/ubuntu-docs/+pots/website-index | 06:20 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team - general discussion - backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | Website http://doc.ubuntu.com | Get involved: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu community code of conduct @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda | | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by Madpilot at Thu Apr 20 04:11:03 2006 | ||
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| LaserJock | WaterSevenUb: I'd ask the list if you don't get an answer here. I don't have a clue | 07:09 |
| WaterSevenUb | thank you. | 07:19 |
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| mgalvin | mdke: the new web site looks good | 08:08 |
| mgalvin | i see we seem to share the same love of grey :) | 08:09 |
| LaserJock | mgalvin: URL? | 08:10 |
| mgalvin | http://mdke.org/ | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | doh | 08:13 |
| mgalvin | hehe | 08:13 |
| mgalvin | he bloged about it on planet | 08:13 |
| mdke | mgalvin: :) I copied the design from an OSWD template | 08:14 |
| jjesse | grey is so boring, use kubuntu blue instead :) | 08:16 |
| LaserJock | I like the grey | 08:16 |
| LaserJock | jjesse: he's English, he has to be boring ;-) | 08:17 |
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| mgalvin | haha :) | 08:33 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: pong | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: did I ping? | 08:38 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: sure, scripting is always fun. I'm reading more about unicode, so that I can be more useful | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | I was thinking it might be nice to make a single script that helps the doc team out | 08:39 |
| robotgeek | i am at a friends place, so network access is intermittent for me (stealing) | 08:40 |
| LaserJock | and then maybe we wouldn't have to bug mdke all the time about how to do stuff | 08:40 |
| mdke | what did you have in mind? | 08:40 |
| LaserJock | I was thinking of the validating, stripping the xml to plain text, maybe pot generation. I have to look into some of it | 08:41 |
| LaserJock | the nice thing about doing it in python is that it is very portable | 08:42 |
| mdke | well, making pots wouldn't be too hard. | 08:42 |
| mdke | why stripping to plain text? | 08:42 |
| LaserJock | cause I saw it was like 3 line in my Python Cookbook ;-) | 08:42 |
| robotgeek | validating is one command anyways, converting to pot is also one command | 08:42 |
| mdke | well, we have a validation script that works well. | 08:42 |
| mdke | and we've got those scripts for processing translations | 08:43 |
| robotgeek | i've been putting some effort into learning what unicode is all about :) | 08:43 |
| robotgeek | hopefully, today i will finish the svg generation script | 08:43 |
| LaserJock | I mean, for sure I'll have to think of some better examples, but validating (and checking for well formmedness) is very easy with python | 08:44 |
| mdke | LaserJock: you don't like our validation script? | 08:44 |
| LaserJock | mdke: it's not that. I was thinking of just putting everything together into a single script | 08:45 |
| mdke | the problem is, so far we're talking about totally different functions, so you generally wouldn't want to run them together | 08:45 |
| mdke | and the translation scripts call the validation script now | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | why not? something like "docscript validate" validates and "docscript translate" would do the translations | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | I'll have to see if I can make a mockup or something | 08:46 |
| robotgeek | very easy with bash too :) | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | I probably won't have anything before dapper is out | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: yes, but my point is portability. I guess that isn't an issue for you guys | 08:47 |
| mdke | ./validate.sh validates, and translate.sh does the translations, i am not seeing the difference yet | 08:47 |
| LaserJock | I work from OS X and Windows all the time | 08:47 |
| robotgeek | ah, okay. cygwin not work? | 08:47 |
| robotgeek | OS X should not be an issue | 08:47 |
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| LaserJock | robotgeek: I'm not a big cygwin fan | 08:47 |
| LaserJock | and OS X has it's issues | 08:47 |
| robotgeek | subprocess.popen | 08:48 |
| LaserJock | all I'm saying is that I'd like to see if I could improve upon what we currently have | 08:48 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: pyxml | 08:48 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: you want to implement what in pyxml? validation? | 08:49 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: yeah, it is like 2 lines | 08:49 |
| robotgeek | really. hmm | 08:49 |
| LaserJock | ok, so let me list some of the things for XML from the python cookbook. | 08:50 |
| robotgeek | is that book online? :) | 08:50 |
| LaserJock | checking XML well-formedness, counting tags, extracting text, autodetectinl XML encoding, validating, filtering elements and attributes belonging to a given namespace | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | robotgeek: I don't think so, I bought it from Barnes & Noble | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | I don't know, I was just impressed and thought that perhaps some stuff would be usefull to the doc team | 08:52 |
| LaserJock | It isn't even a brain dump at this point ;-) | 08:53 |
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| robotgeek | cool, i'll look thru it. | 08:54 |
| robotgeek | anyways, i gotta run now. work a bit on the svg thing so that i can show madpilot too | 08:54 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: is the pdf of the lulu book availaible? | 09:50 |
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| LaserJock | why hello Bluekuja ;-) | 09:57 |
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| cbx33 | good evening | 09:57 |
| Bluekuja | hey laserjock :) | 09:57 |
| cbx33 | hi Bluekuja LaserJock | 09:57 |
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| LaserJock | are you guys interested in creating documenation to ship with Edubuntu? | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | we are indeed | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | tis why we are here LaserJock :p | 09:59 |
| LaserJock | ok, so you might start by checking out the doc teams svn repo and learning some of the tools | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | will do | 10:00 |
| LaserJock | do either of you know Docbook XML? | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | yes | 10:00 |
| Bluekuja | yep, mdke told me about it | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | I used it for creating a man page for LTSP | 10:00 |
| LaserJock | ok, so https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/GettingStarted should get you started | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | thank you | 10:00 |
| LaserJock | I've got a meeting for about 30-45 min, but I'll be back if you need more info | 10:01 |
| Bluekuja | ok thank you very much jordan | 10:01 |
| Bluekuja | mdke: when you have a minute, ping me i have to show you something | 10:01 |
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| mdke | LaserJock: http://mdke.org/ubuntu/lulu | 11:18 |
| mdke | Bluekuja: yes | 11:18 |
| LaserJock | mdke: ah thanks. | 11:19 |
| cbx33 | hi mdke | 11:20 |
| mdke | hi cbx33 | 11:20 |
| LaserJock | mdke: cbx33 and Bluekuja are interested in writing docs for Edubuntu so I suggested they come over to the doc team | 11:21 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: they are currently working (I'm helping a little bit) on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy/ | 11:22 |
| cbx33 | we're hoping to have a solid draft by thursday | 11:22 |
| cbx33 | which I will then be converting into DocBook format | 11:22 |
| mdke | cool | 11:23 |
| mdke | You might want to talk to a few others about it, because there are various groups working on edubuntu documentation, I think | 11:23 |
| cbx33 | take a look and if you have any feedback it'd be greatfully received | 11:23 |
| cbx33 | yes there are | 11:23 |
| cbx33 | our final aim for this is to produce a printed pamphlet | 11:23 |
| cbx33 | that can be sent out to schools to try to raise ubuntu/edubuntu awareness | 11:23 |
| mdke | ok. I don't have the time to take a serious look at it, but send it to the mailing list and I'm sure loads of people will take a look. | 11:24 |
| mdke | looks like a cool idea | 11:24 |
| cbx33 | excellent thank you mdke | 11:24 |
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| WaterSevenUb | mdke,around? Did you see my question in the backlog about website-index? | 11:57 |
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