=== jjesse [i=user@69-87-143-215.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:38] hi Madpilot [03:38] hi mdke [03:38] you ok? [03:42] of course - busy this weekend [03:42] good good [03:42] -> bed [03:42] g'night === lakin_ [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Unfrgiven [n=ankur@ubuntu/member/unfrgiven] has joined #ubuntu-doc === KingBahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@59.92.48.100] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:07] hi robitaille [08:08] Hi Madpilot === aanjhan_ [n=aanjhan@59.92.60.231] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Success"] === mpt [n=mpt@203-173-141-46.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@AC8E1B82.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@59.92.57.251] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-118-179-168.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203-173-141-46.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@195-23-238-213.nr.ip.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203-173-141-46.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-81-220.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-81-220.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-81-220.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@59.92.35.20] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@195-23-238-156.nr.ip.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:20] hey guys... can someone explain me what is the intent of website-index? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/ubuntu-docs/+pots/website-index === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team - general discussion - backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | Website http://doc.ubuntu.com | Get involved: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu community code of conduct @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda | === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by Madpilot at Thu Apr 20 04:11:03 2006 === ulpair [i=ulpair@81.214.26.89] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ulpair [i=ulpair@81.214.26.89] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [07:09] WaterSevenUb: I'd ask the list if you don't get an answer here. I don't have a clue [07:19] thank you. === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:08] mdke: the new web site looks good [08:09] i see we seem to share the same love of grey :) [08:10] mgalvin: URL? [08:13] http://mdke.org/ [08:13] doh [08:13] hehe [08:13] he bloged about it on planet [08:14] mgalvin: :) I copied the design from an OSWD template [08:16] grey is so boring, use kubuntu blue instead :) [08:16] I like the grey [08:17] jjesse: he's English, he has to be boring ;-) === LaserJock runs === mdke nods slowly === jenda [n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:33] haha :) [08:38] LaserJock: pong [08:38] robotgeek: did I ping? [08:38] LaserJock: sure, scripting is always fun. I'm reading more about unicode, so that I can be more useful [08:39] I was thinking it might be nice to make a single script that helps the doc team out [08:40] i am at a friends place, so network access is intermittent for me (stealing) [08:40] and then maybe we wouldn't have to bug mdke all the time about how to do stuff [08:40] what did you have in mind? [08:41] I was thinking of the validating, stripping the xml to plain text, maybe pot generation. I have to look into some of it [08:42] the nice thing about doing it in python is that it is very portable [08:42] well, making pots wouldn't be too hard. [08:42] why stripping to plain text? [08:42] cause I saw it was like 3 line in my Python Cookbook ;-) [08:42] validating is one command anyways, converting to pot is also one command [08:42] well, we have a validation script that works well. [08:43] and we've got those scripts for processing translations [08:43] i've been putting some effort into learning what unicode is all about :) [08:43] hopefully, today i will finish the svg generation script [08:44] I mean, for sure I'll have to think of some better examples, but validating (and checking for well formmedness) is very easy with python [08:44] LaserJock: you don't like our validation script? [08:45] mdke: it's not that. I was thinking of just putting everything together into a single script [08:45] the problem is, so far we're talking about totally different functions, so you generally wouldn't want to run them together [08:45] and the translation scripts call the validation script now [08:46] why not? something like "docscript validate" validates and "docscript translate" would do the translations [08:46] I'll have to see if I can make a mockup or something [08:46] very easy with bash too :) [08:46] I probably won't have anything before dapper is out [08:47] robotgeek: yes, but my point is portability. I guess that isn't an issue for you guys [08:47] ./validate.sh validates, and translate.sh does the translations, i am not seeing the difference yet [08:47] I work from OS X and Windows all the time [08:47] ah, okay. cygwin not work? [08:47] OS X should not be an issue === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:47] robotgeek: I'm not a big cygwin fan [08:47] and OS X has it's issues [08:48] subprocess.popen [08:48] all I'm saying is that I'd like to see if I could improve upon what we currently have [08:48] robotgeek: pyxml [08:49] LaserJock: you want to implement what in pyxml? validation? [08:49] robotgeek: yeah, it is like 2 lines [08:49] really. hmm [08:50] ok, so let me list some of the things for XML from the python cookbook. [08:50] is that book online? :) [08:51] checking XML well-formedness, counting tags, extracting text, autodetectinl XML encoding, validating, filtering elements and attributes belonging to a given namespace [08:51] robotgeek: I don't think so, I bought it from Barnes & Noble [08:52] I don't know, I was just impressed and thought that perhaps some stuff would be usefull to the doc team [08:53] It isn't even a brain dump at this point ;-) === robotgeek sees safari bookshelf, access univ network [08:54] cool, i'll look thru it. [08:54] anyways, i gotta run now. work a bit on the svg thing so that i can show madpilot too === Burgwork [n=corey@d66-183-174-128.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kyral_ [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:50] mdke: is the pdf of the lulu book availaible? === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host199-235.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:57] why hello Bluekuja ;-) === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:57] good evening [09:57] hey laserjock :) [09:57] hi Bluekuja LaserJock === mpt [n=mpt@203-173-141-46.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:59] are you guys interested in creating documenation to ship with Edubuntu? [09:59] we are indeed [09:59] tis why we are here LaserJock :p [09:59] ok, so you might start by checking out the doc teams svn repo and learning some of the tools [10:00] will do [10:00] do either of you know Docbook XML? [10:00] yes [10:00] yep, mdke told me about it [10:00] I used it for creating a man page for LTSP [10:00] ok, so https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/GettingStarted should get you started [10:00] thank you [10:01] I've got a meeting for about 30-45 min, but I'll be back if you need more info [10:01] ok thank you very much jordan [10:01] mdke: when you have a minute, ping me i have to show you something === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-81-220.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pete_ [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:18] LaserJock: http://mdke.org/ubuntu/lulu [11:18] Bluekuja: yes [11:19] mdke: ah thanks. [11:20] hi mdke [11:20] hi cbx33 [11:21] mdke: cbx33 and Bluekuja are interested in writing docs for Edubuntu so I suggested they come over to the doc team === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:22] mdke: they are currently working (I'm helping a little bit) on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy/ [11:22] we're hoping to have a solid draft by thursday [11:22] which I will then be converting into DocBook format [11:23] cool [11:23] You might want to talk to a few others about it, because there are various groups working on edubuntu documentation, I think [11:23] take a look and if you have any feedback it'd be greatfully received [11:23] yes there are [11:23] our final aim for this is to produce a printed pamphlet [11:23] that can be sent out to schools to try to raise ubuntu/edubuntu awareness [11:24] ok. I don't have the time to take a serious look at it, but send it to the mailing list and I'm sure loads of people will take a look. [11:24] looks like a cool idea [11:24] excellent thank you mdke === Old [n=warlock@c80-216-222-145.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Old [n=warlock@c80-216-222-145.cm-upc.chello.se] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@195-23-238-251.nr.ip.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:57] mdke,around? Did you see my question in the backlog about website-index?