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| dieta | Hello | 12:21 |
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| bmonty | anyone know why pbuilder would install a package (libssl-dev) and then remove it? | 01:14 |
| \sh | bmonty: how do you mean "install it and directly remove it?" | 01:17 |
| bmonty | \sh: in installing the build-deps it installs libssl-dev and then later I see the package being removed | 01:20 |
| \sh | but before the source actually is compiled? | 01:21 |
| bmonty | yes | 01:21 |
| bmonty | I'm trying to rebuild freeradius with EAP-TLS and TTLS enabled | 01:21 |
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| \sh | strange... | 01:23 |
| bmonty | could it be that one of the build-deps conflicts with libssl-dev? | 01:24 |
| bmonty | is there a way I can "force" pbuilder to ignore an error with build-dep install? | 01:25 |
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| bmonty | I figured it out....libssl-dev was listed as a build conflict | 01:28 |
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| bddebian | What's up folks? | 02:04 |
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| J_P | hi all | 02:36 |
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| Laser_away | bddebian: absolutely nothing here, apparently ;-) | 03:16 |
| bddebian | Laser_away: Ahh | 03:16 |
| crimsun | which is a good thing, since I have four finals to give this coming week. | 03:16 |
| bddebian | Doh | 03:16 |
| bddebian | I'm looking at xfce4-wavelan-plugin :-( | 03:16 |
| Laser_away | hmm, for some odd reason my nvidia card doesn't work | 03:18 |
| bddebian | Ack, where the hell is this thing picking up aclocal-1.8 | 03:22 |
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| zul | heylo | 03:58 |
| zul | all of those builddepends bugs have been taken care of? | 04:00 |
| zul | oh wait never mind..there is just more bugs | 04:01 |
| bddebian | Unmet Deps? Hell no :-( | 04:01 |
| bddebian | I'm playing with xfce4-wavelan-plugin now but failing :'-( | 04:01 |
| bddebian | Who's the xfce guru around here.. | 04:06 |
| zul | im thinking the xubuntu guys | 04:07 |
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| bddebian | zul: Yeah, but who are they? :-) | 04:11 |
| zul | #xubuntu | 04:12 |
| bddebian | Is there a #xubuntu-dev? | 04:13 |
| zul | doesnt look like it | 04:14 |
| Laser_away | bddebian: janimo is who you want | 04:15 |
| bddebian | Ah | 04:15 |
| Laser_away | bddebian: although I think crimsun works on xfce stuff as well | 04:17 |
| bddebian | I thought so too | 04:18 |
| bddebian | But crimsun hates me ;-P | 04:18 |
| zul | gah? | 04:19 |
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| Hobbsee | hi everyone | 06:29 |
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| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee | 06:41 |
| Hobbsee | hey bddebian :) | 06:43 |
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| crimsun | bddebian: you should just apply for main. That would resolve such issues. :) | 07:06 |
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| bddebian | crimsun: I'd love to but I don't think I'm on the favored list :-) | 07:06 |
| bddebian | Heya tuxmaniac | 07:07 |
| crimsun | bah, there's no favoured list :) | 07:07 |
| crimsun | besides, you have enough good will from breezy | 07:07 |
| bddebian | I do? | 07:07 |
| tuxmaniac | bddebian: Hi. Whats the favoured list all abt? Can i know? | 07:07 |
| bddebian | tuxmaniac: Inside joke. crimsun says I should shoot for main uploader, but I usually just annoy those poor folks :-( | 07:08 |
| tuxmaniac | :)) | 07:08 |
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| tuxmaniac | Guys did u see a bug report from one Richard Feynman!!!! | 07:10 |
| tuxmaniac | bug 42283 | 07:10 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 42283 in vim-latexsuite "not possible to launch evince as dvi viewer programm out of gvim latexsuite" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42283 | 07:10 |
| tuxmaniac | Hope you guys know what I am thinking!! :) | 07:13 |
| tuxmaniac | bddebian: It works for me or I mean I have not understood the bug!!! | 07:19 |
| tuxmaniac | He asks me to open a .tex file in gvim out of nautilus!!! | 07:19 |
| bddebian | Sorry man, it's 1:30am, I'm fading fast | 07:20 |
| tuxmaniac | Oh ok. Sorry bddebian | 07:20 |
| tuxmaniac | Its 10:50 AM here :) | 07:20 |
| bddebian | NP :-) | 07:20 |
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| sivang | morning all | 09:44 |
| kelmo | hi siretart, all | 09:44 |
| siretart | hey kelmo | 09:45 |
| kelmo | siretart: nice wiki page | 09:45 |
| sivang | hey siretart , kelmo | 09:45 |
| siretart | kelmo: thanks :) | 09:45 |
| kelmo | siretart: thanks a lot! | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | hi everyone | 09:45 |
| sivang | kelmo: which wiki page? | 09:45 |
| kelmo | hi sivang | 09:45 |
| kelmo | wiki.debian.org/WPA | 09:45 |
| siretart | I wanted to do something about the empty alioth page, and decided to create a wiki page instead | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: how long will we be able to make uvf exceptions ? | 09:46 |
| kelmo | siretart: which is perfect | 09:46 |
| siretart | Tonio_: we don't actually have a deadline, but I think that we 3 will keep on focusing more and more on bugs than on uvf exceptions | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: we have an updated version of knetworkmanager but since we're waiting informations upstream, I'like to anticipate not to be too late :) | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: ok, that's just since knetworkmanager is a big feature for kubuntu so.... may I ping you when uvfe is online ? :) | 09:47 |
| siretart | Tonio_: if you think that knetworkmanager needs an exception, just add the information we need, along with some sort of risk analysis | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: sure ;) | 09:48 |
| siretart | Tonio_: I'll get an email as soon as you assign that bug to motu-uvf | 09:48 |
| sivang | siretart: are you a DD already? | 09:48 |
| siretart | sivang: no, still waiting on AM assignment :( | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: ah, true, I forgot you got emails for this... (stupid myself !) | 09:48 |
| sivang | siretart: ah, nice to know you've already gone through all the other administrativa :-) | 09:48 |
| sivang | siretart: epsecially, the techincal inquery | 09:49 |
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| siretart | sivang: err, the AM does the P&P and T&S inquery, I've only been advocated so far | 09:49 |
| ivoks | did anyone did translations with rosetta? | 09:51 |
| sivang | siretart: ah, woops, sorry. I'm sure you'll make it thouhg :) | 09:58 |
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| vud1 | hi. I am reading all the possible rols ubuntu contributors.. and i see that there are de uploaders, de reviewers and the motus, arent they? | 10:22 |
| G0SUB | sivang | 10:24 |
| vud1 | but i havent a clear idea about the diference between the motus and the reviewers one | 10:25 |
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| sivang | G0SUB: ? | 10:35 |
| G0SUB | sivang: how are you ? | 10:35 |
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| \sh | moins | 10:45 |
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| sivang | G0SUB: fine, and you? | 11:06 |
| G0SUB | sivang: I am ok too! | 11:06 |
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| zakame | hi all | 12:23 |
| zakame | hi all | 12:28 |
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| Gloubiboulga | hi zakame | 12:38 |
| G0SUB | Gloubiboulga | 12:40 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello G0SUB :) | 12:46 |
| G0SUB | Gloubiboulga: hi! | 12:47 |
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| zul | heylo | 02:03 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 02:03 |
| Gloubiboulga | phanatic, zul, hello | 02:08 |
| jpatrick | hello * | 02:10 |
| phanatic | hey Gloubiboulga | 02:11 |
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| Hobbsee | hey all | 02:29 |
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| Kyral | RPI? | 02:41 |
| === Kyral growls low | ||
| === Hobbsee prods Kyral | ||
| Kyral | yes? | 02:47 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| Kyral | Hey | 02:47 |
| === Hobbsee didnt really have anything else to say, just hello | ||
| Kyral | I apologize for my behavior | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | Kyral: oh? which was this? | 02:48 |
| Kyral | but if the RPI in his hostmask means Rochester Polytech Instutute, then I have a minor annoyance with him | 02:48 |
| Kyral | Being that I hail from Clarkson Univerisity, and we are rivals | 02:49 |
| tseng | hm didnt clarkson have some kind of big linux project | 02:49 |
| tseng | i forget what it was about, some custom distro | 02:50 |
| Kyral | Xen based, but Ed kinda went AWOL on us | 02:50 |
| Kyral | Xen Breezy | 02:50 |
| tseng | no before that | 02:50 |
| tseng | a few years ago | 02:50 |
| Kyral | Dunno, I'm only a Sopomore | 02:50 |
| tseng | i think it was based on gentoo | 02:50 |
| Kyral | I think someone was working on a frontend to Portage | 02:50 |
| Kyral | you can check the COSI webpage if you are really interested, we archive EVERYTHING | 02:51 |
| Kyral | cosi.clarkson.edu | 02:51 |
| jpatrick | must have a lot of free space | 02:52 |
| Kyral | but more recently, Clarkson took 1st and 2nd place in Tuxmasters | 02:52 |
| tseng | that only goes back to 2005 | 02:52 |
| Kyral | *shrug* | 02:53 |
| Kyral | I recall seeing a machine labelled for the purpose before we started cleaning out the other day | 02:53 |
| tseng | Pen2 Gentoo Installer | 02:53 |
| Kyral | yea! Labs getting renovated, HAPPY!! | 02:53 |
| tseng | that was it | 02:53 |
| Kyral | It was prolly Rouslan's way to automate the installation of the old lab build, which ran Gentoo | 02:54 |
| tseng | no, it was just your generic gui installer | 02:54 |
| === Kyral shrugs | ||
| tseng | it was okayish | 02:54 |
| === Kyral shrugs | ||
| Kyral | I mean, I'm gonna try to create a custom distro on my own, just to see if I can actually do it | 02:56 |
| Kyral | COSI: Defying Convention 25 hours a day, 8 days a week, 367 days a year | 02:58 |
| tseng | modifying ubuntu is too easy to bother with anything else | 02:59 |
| Kyral | Yanno, I had a working Lab Build based on Ubuntu | 02:59 |
| Kyral | but the day before we were set to install it | 02:59 |
| Kyral | they were like "well, we are gonna try Fedora for a day" | 03:00 |
| tseng | ... | 03:00 |
| Kyral | and next thing I knew my work was sent to /dev/null | 03:00 |
| Kyral | The general opinion of Ubuntu in the COSI is very low | 03:00 |
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| Kyral | I mean they support the whole newbie friendly thing, but as a distro for technically proficient people, the opinion is very low | 03:01 |
| Kyral | Then again a bunch of people still run it on laptops because its fire and forget and for a system like a laptop, you don't really feel like messing around with configurations | 03:03 |
| Kyral | I think right now we have 3 ArchLinux users (including me), 2 - 3 Ubuntu users, and 1 Slackware user | 03:04 |
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| Kyral | oh and 1 OpenSuSE user | 03:05 |
| Kyral | sorry..you got me talking about COSI and I'm passionate about COSI :D | 03:06 |
| tseng | putting Open next to SuSE is such a farse | 03:06 |
| Kyral | IIRC, they basically did the same thing that RedHat did with Fedora right? | 03:06 |
| Kyral | Holy cow, Slack is FINALLY gonna ship a 2.6 kernel by defualt | 03:07 |
| tseng | Kyral: with a bit less Open | 03:08 |
| Kyral | tseng: ah | 03:08 |
| tseng | i dont know of any community contributors | 03:08 |
| Kyral | I tried it over the semester, but found it too "top heavy" | 03:08 |
| Kyral | yah...this is why I like ArchLinux's AUR | 03:08 |
| tseng | i know of a small handful of community fedora members | 03:09 |
| Kyral | Its even more open than Debian and Ubuntu when it comes to community | 03:09 |
| tseng | being more open | 03:09 |
| tseng | than ubuntu is asking for trouble i think | 03:09 |
| Kyral | I mean in that you still have to have "Trusted Users" (like MOTU) | 03:10 |
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| Kyral | but like even untrusted builds are in AUR, (not available via pacman mind you), in the "unsupported" category | 03:10 |
| Kyral | people use and vote on them and the TUs mark them safe or not | 03:10 |
| Kyral | if a PKGBUILD is safe and gets 25 votes, it winds up in community | 03:12 |
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| tseng | if you take a look over at the gentoo forums, youll find proof that you can get 25 idiots to agree on anything | 03:13 |
| Kyral | lol | 03:13 |
| zul | thats why they have gentoo | 03:13 |
| tseng | I will let the MOTU and Debian look after my system :) | 03:14 |
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| Kyral | I like the system | 03:14 |
| Kyral | granted I haven't tried to push anything through it yet lol | 03:14 |
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| Kyral | lol, debootstrap is in AUR | 03:22 |
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| Kyral | Oh well, EXAM TIME | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | hehe...enjoy | 03:36 |
| Kyral | Ugh, if that wasn't sarcasm I'd kill you through your monitor | 03:37 |
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| ajmitch | heh :) | 03:38 |
| Mithrandir | ehlo dudes and dudette(s) | 03:39 |
| ajmitch | hi Mithrandir | 03:39 |
| phanatic | hi Mithrandir :) | 03:39 |
| Hobbsee | hey Mithrandir | 03:40 |
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| jpatrick | Can someone look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2316 ? | 04:12 |
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| zakame | hi all | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | hi and bye zakame | 04:23 |
| zakame | heya Hobbsee! | 04:23 |
| === Hobbsee beds....night all... | ||
| phanatic | hey zakame | 04:37 |
| zakame | heya phanatic! | 04:37 |
| phanatic | zakame: i saw you wanna participate in soc :) | 04:38 |
| zakame | yup, I am working on a proposal right now :D | 04:39 |
| phanatic | just like me :) | 04:39 |
| zakame | coolness! :D | 04:40 |
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| phanatic | i hope you're submitting to ubuntu as well ;) | 04:42 |
| zakame | phanatic: yes, actually I am trying to catch ogra to talk about that willow packaging | 04:43 |
| phanatic | oh, i see | 04:44 |
| zakame | I feel I should do something for edubuntu now :) | 04:44 |
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| phanatic | zakame: i plan to do some gui development | 04:46 |
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| zakame | phanatic: coolness! I haven't gotten around to do GUIs, although I'm now happily trekking down the GTK-tutorial lane | 04:47 |
| phanatic | :) | 04:48 |
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| G0SUB | phanatic | 04:59 |
| phanatic | hey G0SUB | 04:59 |
| G0SUB | phanatic: doing SoC stuff? | 05:00 |
| phanatic | right | 05:00 |
| G0SUB | phanatic: well, me too! | 05:00 |
| G0SUB | phanatic: I want to do the Samba GUI & the Offline Updater thingy | 05:01 |
| phanatic | G0SUB: yeah, i've noticed you're doing offline-update (or update-offline :)), great idea imho | 05:01 |
| G0SUB | phanatic: I hope so :) | 05:01 |
| G0SUB | phanatic: did you read the spec? | 05:01 |
| phanatic | yep | 05:02 |
| G0SUB | phanatic: is the spec ok? | 05:02 |
| G0SUB | phanatic: what are you working on? Bzr? | 05:04 |
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| phanatic | G0SUB: i think it's alright | 05:05 |
| phanatic | yeah, bzr-gui | 05:05 |
| G0SUB | phanatic: excellent | 05:05 |
| G0SUB | and zakame ? | 05:05 |
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| G0SUB | phanatic: why isn't the submission form online yet? | 05:08 |
| phanatic | he's working on pachaging willow i think | 05:08 |
| phanatic | i don't know... we have time till the 8th anyway :) | 05:09 |
| === G0SUB would like to submit now ... exams start from 9th | ||
| sivang | phanatic: bzr-gui? in SoC ? | 05:10 |
| sivang | phanatic: you have a spec for that? | 05:11 |
| phanatic | sivang: yup, http://bazaar-vcs.org/GraphicalUserInterface | 05:12 |
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| sivang | phanatic: nice, are you already accpeted to do it by google? | 05:15 |
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| zul | hey hub | 05:16 |
| sivang | hmm | 05:16 |
| sivang | http://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/about.html | 05:16 |
| sivang | empty? | 05:16 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 05:19 |
| phanatic | sivang: decisions will be made till 22nd may | 05:20 |
| phanatic | the application process begins today | 05:21 |
| phanatic | hey bddebian :) | 05:21 |
| bddebian | Hello phanatic | 05:21 |
| sivang | phanatic: can non student people apply? | 05:24 |
| phanatic | sivang: you have to be enrolled with a university | 05:24 |
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| hub | sivang: it is a student project | 05:25 |
| hub | sivang: I suspect they get tax credit for that | 05:26 |
| hub | sivang: that's why they restrict to students | 05:26 |
| hub | at least that is what I think it is, I have no insider information | 05:27 |
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| phanatic | wb Gloubiboulga | 05:34 |
| Gloubiboulga | ty phanatic :) | 05:35 |
| phanatic | Gloubiboulga: i saw you were accepted as ubuntu developer. congratulations :) | 05:35 |
| Gloubiboulga | thanks phanatic :) | 05:35 |
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| sivang | hub: k, thanks | 05:45 |
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| G0SUB | sivang: can you review the spec I wrote for my SoC project? | 05:53 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch_: You around? | 05:55 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: it's about 3am in NZ atm, so I expect he is in bed | 05:56 |
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| bddebian | Well wake his ass up :-) | 05:56 |
| bddebian | BTW, Hi Yagisan | 05:56 |
| bddebian | Anyone else deal with zope? | 05:56 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: it's like a 2-3 hour flight to NZ, then I need to get a connecting flight to south island to do that | 05:57 |
| bddebian | Heh | 05:57 |
| Yagisan | bddebian: oh, G'day, and no - I'm only a user. | 05:58 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | We are in feature freeze now. Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DhIconCacheChanges and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by dholbach at Thu Apr 27 10:51:45 2006 | ||
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| sivang | G0SUB: sure, send me the link by email | 06:39 |
| sivang | G0SUB: sivan@ubuntu.com | 06:39 |
| G0SUB | sivang: okay. thanks | 06:40 |
| G0SUB | sivang: sent | 06:50 |
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| phanatic | sivang: will you be a mentor? | 06:56 |
| phanatic | (btw is there a list of mentors for ubuntu?) | 06:57 |
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| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 07:08 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 07:09 |
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| \sh | remoins | 08:37 |
| LaserJock | hi \sh | 08:38 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: Awake yet? :-) | 09:19 |
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| bddebian | Where's Daniel been hiding? | 10:01 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: How about we just upload xircuit? ;-P | 10:01 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: which one? | 10:02 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: tuxmaniacs :-) | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | umm, no | 10:02 |
| bddebian | No? | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | I need to look at that. Lintian and linda has some complaints that didn't look trivial | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: did you look at it? | 10:02 |
| bddebian | They are trivial but they should be looked at/fixed since we are jumping Debian | 10:03 |
| LaserJock | tuxmaniac said that he though the errors were there before | 10:03 |
| bddebian | Because the Debian maintainer is lazy? :-) | 10:03 |
| bddebian | It's things like standards version, "Should mention NMU", that type of crap | 10:04 |
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| hub | hey \sh | 10:20 |
| \sh | hey hub :) | 10:22 |
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| bddebian | Do we have something that can unpack a .jar file? | 10:22 |
| hub | bddebian: unzip | 10:23 |
| hub | bddebian: .jar is .zip basically | 10:23 |
| bddebian | Hmm | 10:24 |
| Gloubiboulga | Gnight MOTUs | 10:25 |
| bddebian | OK, I'm not touching jython from upstream.. Ugh | 10:27 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: do you think the xcircuit on revu is ready to go? | 11:17 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: "xcircuit source: build-depends-on-obsolete-package build-depends: xlibs-dev" needs to get fixed | 11:18 |
| crimsun | libx11-dev at the very least. In Debian that's a serious bug. | 11:19 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock: We should probably fix the lintian errors but I don't want to step on tuxmaniacs toes since he did all the work | 11:22 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: sure | 11:23 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: ack, do we have a UVF exception for xcircuit? | 11:26 |
| bddebian | Of course not :-) | 11:27 |
| LaserJock | uggh, well at least having a working package should help the process :-) | 11:28 |
| bddebian | Yep | 11:28 |
| bddebian | If anyone actually looks at the UVF bugs :) | 11:28 |
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| bddebian | Later folks | 12:01 |
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