[01:55] <Flannel> hey guys, I'm having problems moving courier(imap)'s mail folder from ~/Maildir to ~/.maildir, Ive switched the paths in /etc/imapd and -ssl, and reloaded them both with the initd script, anywhere else I need to be looking?  my imap clients still look at the old directory.
[02:57] <neuralis> Flannel: please see the topic. this is a development channel; for support, see #ubuntu.
[02:59] <Flannel> hmm, when did that change?
[02:59] <neuralis> that's how it was meant to be since the beginning
[03:00] <Flannel> right, well, a year ago it was support, or at least claimed to be in the topic. anyway.
[03:00] <Flannel> I'll then ask why ubuntu's mail utilities use ~/Maildir/ as their default mail paths.
[03:00] <Flannel> since, it seems like a bug-type thing.
[03:01] <neuralis> it's probably inherited from debian.
[03:02] <Flannel> right, except the choice was made to change a few years ago : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MailStorageStandardisation
[03:02] <Flannel> so, I don't know if it's just that they've been overlooked, or...
[03:03] <neuralis> that seems to be an unofficial, non-spec writeup.
[03:05] <Flannel> fair enough.  I hate that fact about the wiki.
[03:06] <neuralis> well, Blueprint is pretty good these days; if you're looking for official specs, look there.
[03:07] <Flannel> is that at launchpad? or..
[03:07] <neuralis> yeah.
[03:09] <Flannel> thanks, Ill check it out
[03:12] <Flannel> and, both chanserv, and the wiki, list this channel as support.  so, you'll want to fix that sooner or later.
[03:12] <Flannel> anyway, thanks for your time.
[03:12] <neuralis> sure.
[03:16] <Plug> With respect to the topic, asking for any kind of server support in #ubuntu will get lost in "how do I get wobbly windows and make wireless go"
[03:18] <neuralis> that's probably true.
[03:19] <neuralis> but we don't have the manpower to make this into any kind of a proper support channel.
[12:50] <xerophyte> if i wanna configrue network card using ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.0  on boot how can i edit /etc/network/interface file
[12:51] <spike> xerophyte: man interfaces
[05:30] <xerophyte>  when you setup internet connection share why do you need to install dnsmasq ipmasq  these to packages.. does the forward and masq rule on the iptable good enough to do the work just wondering why  do i need them ??
[07:36] <neuralis> xerophyte: please take general support questions to #ubuntu.
[09:10] <J_P> Anyone here use or did use OpenMosix on Ubuntu for setup cluster ?
[09:11] <J_P> I need setup one cluster with 15 machines, I am using actually debian, but I am like use software more newly, so I think in use ubuntu for this, anyone haz experience with this ?
[09:16] <neuralis> openmosix requires a 2.4 kernel. ubuntu+2.4 can be tricky -- i wouldn't recommend trying it unless you really know what you're doing.
[11:37] <J_P> neuralis: you don't recommend use ubuntu as cluster or what ?
[11:44] <neuralis> J_P: no, i'm just telling you that it's not a task for someone who's not experienced.
[11:45] <infinity> J_P: Note that as of edgy, we don't intend to support kernel 2.4 on any arch in glibs.
[11:45] <infinity> glic, even.
[11:45] <infinity> We already only support it on i386 at this point.  The rest are 2.6-only.
[11:45] <infinity> Argh.  G-L-I-B-C.  Stupid fingers.
[11:46] <neuralis> infinity: seriously. it's 2006, you'd think we'd be able to jack a firewire cable into the back of our necks already.
[11:47] <ivoks> openmoxis has 2.6 version
[11:47] <ivoks> and very very slow development
[11:47] <neuralis> ivoks: it's (pre)alpha.
[11:47] <ivoks> it's good tool, but they need to catch up
[11:48] <ivoks> neuralis: i know, i tried to use it
[11:48] <ivoks> i have 60 node openmosix cluster
[11:48] <ivoks> and i'm planing a switch to something else
[11:48] <neuralis> ivoks: yeah, we had that conversation
[11:48] <ivoks> ivan :)
[11:49] <nictuku> so, when will we have an annoucement about "Oracle certifies Ubuntu Server" ? :-)
[11:49] <neuralis> ivoks: there you go ;)
[11:49] <ivoks> hehe
[11:50] <neuralis> J_P: look at openssi (http://openssi.org); there are packages for sarge, and dapper packages are in the works.
[11:50] <ivoks> they are? :)
[11:51] <neuralis> yeah. most of the userspace is ported to dapper already.
[11:52] <ivoks> glad to see you are stil among us, neuralis :)
[11:52] <neuralis> eh, vaguely
[11:52] <ivoks> time for bed...
[11:53] <ivoks> see you
[11:53] <neuralis> ivoks: i'll be in zagreb after may 27, let's get a drink
[11:53] <ivoks> or two :)
[11:53] <neuralis> good deal.. g'night
[11:53] <ivoks> bye
[11:54] <pygi> neuralis: we've got someone that wants to implement n-a as part of SoC *but you probably already know it*
[11:55] <nictuku> what's SoC?
[11:56] <neuralis> summer of code.
[11:56] <neuralis> pygi: i saw the post on u-d, haven't heard anything else about it
[11:56] <pygi> neuralis: yup, mithrandir will write a response tommorow
[11:58] <neuralis> cool.
[12:00] <pygi> hopefully he is skilled enough