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| Riddell | \sh: and now I can't recreate the crash that you fixed :( | 12:25 |
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| Riddell | \sh: what is it about your patch that fixes it? | 12:25 |
| Riddell | it gives nice stripy boxes if nothing else of course | 12:25 |
| \sh | ok...short explanation | 12:30 |
| \sh | for choice in sorted(self.language_choice_map): caused the crash somehow | 12:30 |
| \sh | because language_choice_map is a dict and the value is an array | 12:30 |
| \sh | see component/language.py where this callback is called :) | 12:31 |
| \sh | choice in this case points to an array, which first item is a string somehow...so it was luck that it displayed an utf-8 string | 12:31 |
| \sh | I made now this: for key,value in self.language_choice_map.items(): | 12:32 |
| \sh | which grabs the key, which is a unicode language indentifier...and this goes into the list...and looks now like this:http://linux.blogweb.de/uploads/ubiquity-language-selection.png | 12:32 |
| \sh | I produced with the next click another crash...but for this I have to dig deeper into the code | 12:33 |
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| \sh | another cigarette and then "good night world...\sh has to sleep" | 12:53 |
| Riddell | night \sh, thanks for the fix | 12:58 |
| \sh | Riddell: question is, couldn't you reproduce the fix before or after the latest X updates? | 12:58 |
| sebas | That sounds really really wrong :) | 12:58 |
| Riddell | \sh: I've not done any recent X updates | 12:59 |
| \sh | Riddell: strange...me neither, and I have this crash all the time :) | 12:59 |
| \sh | sebas: what sounds wrong? :) | 12:59 |
| Riddell | \sh: oh I had it before, I just don't have it today. bugs like to do that | 01:00 |
| \sh | Riddell: ok...then I'm happy that I can reproduce this strange behaviour :) | 01:00 |
| \sh | but I'm really looking into a better way to test this installer...livecd building at my place, qemu on amd64 and remote X display is really not nice | 01:01 |
| Riddell | \sh: I use my minimac and I don't have anything on it I care about | 01:03 |
| \sh | and later today I'll send you the fixed packages for sip/pyqt/pykde and you can decide if it's worth to go the UVF way :) | 01:03 |
| sebas | \sh: Riddell thanking for the "fix" :) | 01:04 |
| sebas | If you pull it out of the context, that is (which I did, of course :-)). | 01:04 |
| \sh | sebas: now I got it ;) | 01:04 |
| sebas | Ok :) | 01:05 |
| \sh | Riddell: well, when everything is setteled at my place here, moneywise, I'll think I will buy an apple intel powerbook...what I saw is really really nice, and it can run kubuntu on it... | 01:05 |
| sebas | And the core duo is really fast :) | 01:07 |
| \sh | actually, what's really funny, a kubuntu live cd in the emulator is faster then it's on this r200 laptop ;) | 01:08 |
| \sh | and you can play WoW as native mac os x app ;) | 01:09 |
| \sh | ok..going to bed..good night folks | 01:10 |
| kwwii | \sh: the cards themselves are not printed, but Julius has the plastic things and the pins, etc. as well as a color printer, so we will make them on-site | 01:10 |
| kwwii | oops | 01:11 |
| kwwii | too late | 01:11 |
| kwwii | oh well | 01:11 |
| kwwii | sleep well | 01:11 |
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| Riddell | hi Mez | 01:49 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: bug 35995 has quite a few comments | 02:56 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 35995 in kdebase kdebase-kio-plugins "kio_tar and kio_zip not used automatically" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35995 | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: reading | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: those kparts are hidden in the konqueror's associations preference | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | /usr/share/services/ark_part.desktop -> hidden=true activated | 03:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: seems it could be interesting changing this to allow people coming back to default config easier don't you think ? | 03:02 |
| Tonio_ | s/default/original | 03:02 |
| Riddell | yes | 03:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I think we removed that for a good reason, but it is to complicated for users to change this if they want... | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: need to sleep now, but I'll look carefully tomorrow to try to find the right way to manage this | 03:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: good night :) | 03:05 |
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| Riddell | pradeepto: pastebin? | 03:16 |
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| Riddell | Sime: new systemsettings looking lovely, uploaded | 03:36 |
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| abattoir | Are there any Summer of Code mentors here ? | 09:26 |
| abattoir | for Kubuntu | 09:26 |
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| allee | raphink: ping | 11:03 |
| raphink | pong | 11:03 |
| allee | hi | 11:04 |
| raphink | hi allee | 11:04 |
| raphink | you going to LT? | 11:04 |
| allee | raphink: you added a patch from svn to digikam. I will soon ask for UVF of new upstream release ... | 11:04 |
| raphink | ok | 11:04 |
| raphink | I'm afraid it'll be too late | 11:04 |
| allee | raphink: is it only to just ask for a debian sync (aka you changelog entry will be lost) | 11:04 |
| raphink | for UVFer | 11:04 |
| allee | even with ~ dozend bugs fixed (+ one minor feature?) | 11:05 |
| raphink | well | 11:05 |
| raphink | you can ask | 11:05 |
| raphink | if it's accepted I'll upload | 11:05 |
| raphink | I don't mind losing a changelog, what matters is functionality | 11:05 |
| raphink | has the gallery2 fix been forwarded ? | 11:05 |
| allee | raphink: kipi-plugins will hopefully see a rc2 release too. Ton of bugs fixed. I'll use this at least for debian | 11:06 |
| allee | I'll try a UVF too, but I've to wait for Angelo to do the release | 11:07 |
| allee | digikam & kipi* release is not fit Kubuntu release dates well :( | 11:08 |
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| Riddell | abattoir: yes, me | 12:07 |
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| Sime | Riddell: about systemsettngs. Everyone should be on the look out for regressions w.r.t. buttons in systemsettngs. (e.g. modules getting wrong or different buttons than before). | 12:27 |
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| LeeJunFan | it seems arts has picked up a nasty eating disorder. | 12:44 |
| LeeJunFan | It's engorging itself with RAM. | 12:44 |
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| kmon | does kubuntu ship with a dictionary app? | 12:59 |
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| kmon | Riddell: what kind of regressions? | 01:20 |
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| Riddell | things not working :) | 01:29 |
| Riddell | kmon: konqueror is our dictionary app | 01:29 |
| kmon | Riddell: how do you use it? | 01:30 |
| Riddell | launch konqueror, go to www.dictionary.com, type in word, voila | 01:30 |
| kmon | hehe | 01:31 |
| kmon | ok | 01:31 |
| \sh | http://dict.leo.org/frde?lp=frde&search=voila is more easy | 01:31 |
| \sh | and then via leo:da ;) | 01:32 |
| \sh | leo should create an english french dictionary | 01:33 |
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| Hobbsee | anyone around? | 01:55 |
| Hobbsee | maybe Riddell? | 01:55 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: hi | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i just got http://pastebin.com/693938 - what will it mean for kubuntu? | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: particularly in AU, these are critical sites that must be accessed - no matter how strong the encryption of them may be. could well be worth thinking about and patching. | 02:03 |
| abattoir | Any Summer of Code Mentors around ;) ? | 02:03 |
| Hobbsee | although, i *am* wondering about comm bank...they *surely* should know better! they are a bank, after all! | 02:03 |
| Hobbsee | abattoir: sorry, no, i'm not one | 02:04 |
| === Hobbsee wouldnt even qualify for being a coder for that... | ||
| abattoir | Hobbsee: :) | 02:05 |
| === Hobbsee is far too darned young! | ||
| abattoir | was just wondering if i need to show my app to a mentor before applying... | 02:06 |
| abattoir | because many orgs. seem to suggest that... | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | abattoir: i dont know about needing to - but it's probably a good idea. what were you going to do? | 02:07 |
| abattoir | the OEM installer... never mind, just clicked SUBMIT | 02:07 |
| Hobbsee | ooh fun :) | 02:08 |
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| Riddell | abattoir: yes, me | 02:10 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: got an example URL? | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | of the https issue? | 02:10 |
| Riddell | yes | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | grabbing one | 02:10 |
| abattoir | Riddell: Omg, stupid me... should have waited longer... | 02:10 |
| abattoir | ok, anyways you'll have a look at it ;) | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: https://www3.netbank.commbank.com.au/netbank/bankmain | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | i'd say... | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: https://secure.centrelink.gov.au/web.forte is probably the other one that they're mentioning | 02:12 |
| Riddell | abattoir: you just submitted an application for a Kubuntu OEM installer? | 02:12 |
| abattoir | yes... | 02:12 |
| Riddell | abattoir: excellent, I'd love to see that happen | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | i dont have logins for either site (wouldnt mind having one for centrelink - that means money!) - but i'm quite sure those are the ones listed in the email | 02:12 |
| Riddell | abattoir: got any pykde experience? | 02:12 |
| abattoir | yup | 02:12 |
| abattoir | not very extensive... but i know the goods... | 02:13 |
| abattoir | eager and willing to learn too :) | 02:13 |
| Riddell | abattoir: cool. I've no idea how the selection process will work but I'd definately like to see an OEM installer happen | 02:13 |
| abattoir | have sent some mockups too | 02:13 |
| abattoir | you want links now? | 02:13 |
| Riddell | sure | 02:13 |
| sebas | Riddell: From guessing, sime and me could probably mentor soc guidance modules. | 02:13 |
| abattoir | Riddell: http://abattoir.4t.com/Images/hrika.png | 02:14 |
| abattoir | that's the config. tool | 02:14 |
| abattoir | http://abattoir.4t.com/Images/hlada.png | 02:15 |
| abattoir | this one is the welcome screen... for the user | 02:15 |
| Riddell | abattoir: have you seen the ubuntu gtk OEM installer? | 02:15 |
| abattoir | no | 02:15 |
| Riddell | me neither :) | 02:15 |
| abattoir | i probably should have come in earlier and discussed... before sending in my app :( | 02:16 |
| abattoir | Probably would have got more ideas.. | 02:16 |
| Riddell | you should probably take a look at that when you have a spare hour and hard disk, that would be the starting point | 02:16 |
| abattoir | ok... i am searching for it... | 02:17 |
| Riddell | use the text install CD and choose OEM Install when it first boots | 02:17 |
| abattoir | oh... it works that way... | 02:18 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/OEMInstaller | 02:18 |
| Riddell | if you want to write a better description of it than that wiki page I'm sure that would be most welcome | 02:18 |
| abattoir | I have thought of a method where the OEM has a GUI tool in KDE which configures and makes images | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | hehe..i offered dad a kubuntu cd when his windows went kaput...he didnt accept it though :P :( | 02:19 |
| abattoir | Riddell: so is my approach wrong? | 02:20 |
| Riddell | abattoir: only in that you havn't already looked at the gtk OEM installer. I havn't either, so for all I know you're exactly right :) | 02:21 |
| abattoir | ok... I am downloading the ISO... | 02:22 |
| abattoir | Riddell:only the Ubuntu ISO has it right? | 02:23 |
| Riddell | yes | 02:23 |
| Riddell | text install one | 02:23 |
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| abattoir | Riddell: and the "Welcome Screen" that's fine right?..... or should i wait till you see my application properly ;) ? | 02:26 |
| Riddell | abattoir: which one? | 02:28 |
| abattoir | the second link... :) | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: please excuse the ignorance, but what does w.r.t. stand for? | 02:32 |
| abattoir | Hobbsee: with respect to | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | oh, gotcha - so, as in, whether the admin buttons work or not? | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | hmm...like the one being mentioned in #kubuntu at the moment. | 02:35 |
| Riddell | abattoir: I don't know if your welcome screen is any good since I've not seen the gtk one so I don't really know the required functionality | 02:35 |
| abattoir | Riddell: should we do exactly what they do ;) ? :) | 02:36 |
| Riddell | abattoir: to start with yes, but once it's working to the same level it can do whatever we want | 02:40 |
| abattoir | ok, thanks | 02:41 |
| Riddell | abattoir: do you know when the summer of code coding starts? | 02:42 |
| abattoir | Applications started yesterday... till 8th.. | 02:42 |
| abattoir | last date for results to be announced is 22 May... | 02:42 |
| abattoir | so i guess anytime after that... | 02:42 |
| Riddell | groovy, well hang around the channel and I'll do what I can to get your application at the top of our list :) | 02:43 |
| abattoir | http://code.google.com/soc/studentfaq.html#42 | 02:44 |
| abattoir | Riddell: wow, that'd be sweet :) | 02:44 |
| abattoir | thanks | 02:44 |
| mornfall | oh, SoC | 02:44 |
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| Riddell | hello morgs | 03:30 |
| freeflying-ibook | Riddell: hey | 03:31 |
| Riddell | hi freeflying-ibook | 03:31 |
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| pradeepto | was kerry available for breezy? | 05:13 |
| pradeepto | Riddell: was kerry available for breezy? | 05:14 |
| Riddell | pradeepto: no | 05:14 |
| pradeepto | thanks | 05:15 |
| Riddell | it was only relesaed around february | 05:15 |
| Riddell | sebas: nice chinchiila cage, our one is much smaller | 05:15 |
| pradeepto | it will be really difficult to break it to that poory guy, | 05:15 |
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| Riddell | freeflying-ibook: I need to get skim working on this amd64 now | 05:46 |
| Riddell | LANG is set to en_GB.UTF-8 | 05:46 |
| Riddell | what do I need to do? | 05:46 |
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| \sh | re | 05:59 |
| Riddell | scim (gtk frontend) seems to break things lots | 06:22 |
| Riddell | hmm | 06:24 |
| \sh | whatever ;) | 06:24 |
| Riddell | but skim seems to be working | 06:24 |
| Riddell | except on openoffice, hmm | 06:24 |
| \sh | back to ascii... | 06:25 |
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| Riddell | oh no, amarok 1.4 is in two weeks. we need to find a good excuse for it not to go into dapper | 06:58 |
| \sh | Riddell: sounds like fun like the last time with breezy and my decision :) | 07:00 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: what about making the kcontrol modules of kwin-style-crystal and gtk2-engines-gtk-qt translatable via rosetta? | 07:01 |
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| jjesse | hmm adept-updater didn't show there were updates avialable to day but apt-update and apt-get dist-upgrade did | 07:25 |
| mornfall | jjesse: if you mean notifier (not updater), then it's probably because it only checks once a day | 07:27 |
| mornfall | using cron | 07:27 |
| jjesse | notifier i meant, if your computer is off when it is scheduled it will check first startup correct? | 07:27 |
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| mornfall | jjesse: no idea, that's what ubuntu takes care of not me | 07:36 |
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| Tonio_ | hey | 07:47 |
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| Tonio_ | \sh: hey | 07:49 |
| \sh | re | 07:51 |
| Tonio_ | \sh: uploading latest knetworkmanager :) | 07:51 |
| Tonio_ | uvfe got approved today | 07:51 |
| \sh | Tonio_: cool :) | 07:51 |
| Tonio_ | \sh: bad news for you, concerning the section, that'll be internet for the moment | 07:52 |
| \sh | Tonio_: well, if it's considered for edgy then it's ok | 07:52 |
| Tonio_ | \sh: I think we can redicuss the menus for edgy, yes | 07:53 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: UVFe was fast... I hope mine for powersave will be too ... ;-) | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: hehe ;) | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: can you give me feedback about bug 42027 | 09:51 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 42027 in knetworkmanager "Frequency/Bandwidth is ZERO/Unknown" [Minor,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42027 | 09:51 |
| Lure | Tonio_: frequency iz reported as 0 GHz, while Bandwidth is Unknown (i386, ipw2200) | 09:52 |
| Lure | I think that Bandwidth fix is working, while frequency does not - we need to check what is supposed to do | 09:53 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ok | 09:53 |
| Lure | Seen Timo's plans with 0.1? | 09:53 |
| marseillai | will try now but it seems i don't have this problem with the same config | 09:53 |
| \sh | ok...cu later at linuxtag | 09:54 |
| \sh | good night :) | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: that ressembles to a networkmanager bug | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | not a knetworkmanager one :) | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | it is just a frontend | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: yes I saw, hope we could uvfe this one too ;) | 09:57 |
| Lure | Tonio_: true, but knm should display Unknown (or hide) if value is not probvided by n-m (and I think that what recent fixes were supposed to do) | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: what does nm-applet ? | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | same issue or not ? | 09:58 |
| Lure | Not sure - do not have nm-applet installed for almost a month ;-) | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: hehe | 09:58 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I am more concerned about this empty ESSID on startup issue - I hope Timo can nail this down for 0.1 (this will aslo be good excuse for UVFe) | 09:59 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: yes | 10:00 |
| Lure | I have neglected this bug a bit as n-m had opened ESSID related issues, but now that those were closed, I know it is knm specific | 10:01 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: certainly linked to kwallet in somme way | 10:05 |
| Lure | Tonio_: is ftp account on your repo supposed to work still? | 10:06 |
| Lure | I would like to upload powersave there first | 10:06 |
| marseillai | Lure: could you just tell me quickly what sort of improvment bring new powersave ? | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: assume yes but I had big issues with my ftp this we, since I updated my debian server and proftpd-mysql was broken | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | doesn't it work ? | 10:07 |
| Lure | marseillai: just bugfixes... | 10:07 |
| marseillai | oki | 10:07 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I get in, but no folders displayed (cannot browse with konqueror) | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: let me correct this :) | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | this is due to security restrictions ;) | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: refresh, that should be okay | 10:08 |
| Lure | Tonio_: ok now - thanks | 10:09 |
| Tonio_ | I had to rewrite the full config, and since I have a quite complicated configuration for proftpd, I missed some accounts | 10:09 |
| Lure | Sime: latest guidence properly displays driver (was vesa before) on ATI FireGL V5000 | 10:38 |
| Sime | Lure: cool | 10:39 |
| Sime | Tonio_: is guidance working better for you now? (0.6.6 just hit the repos. ) | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: testing :) | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | I can click this f**ing proprietary button :) | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: as promissed, I'll leave you in peace now :) | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: did you touch systemsettings too ? the window size is much better managed | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | looks like very mature now | 10:43 |
| marseillai | 8 | 10:46 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: everything looks just like perfect for me concerning both systemsettings and the display module :) | 10:52 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I am no CC meeting (starts in couple of minutes) if you want to support me | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: sure !! | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: membership ? | 11:00 |
| Lure | yes | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: sure I'll be there | 11:01 |
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| superstoned | http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/ :D | 11:45 |
| superstoned | funny | 11:45 |
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