[12:03] <Seantater> yanis: what website? Sometimes I download things from NASA but they are too big for my memory.. like 2000 MB uncompressed sometimes!
[12:03] <Seantater> DjDarkman: okay -- so it doeas not happen in the terminal..
[12:04] <Seantater> yanis: Perhaps see if libjpeg has any upgrades?
[12:04] <yanis> Seantater: it seams to be a problem with the lib that embeds the image in the konq, because I opened the url with another app and its ok
[12:04] <Seantater> yanis: or something along the lines of libjpeg..
[12:04] <DjDarkman> sorry for bothering you Seantater ,i`ve found out that the problem was with xmms
[12:05] <Seantater> Yanis: hum -- okay -- I didn;t think they did any development on that..
[12:05] <yanis> and now konq crashed
[12:05] <Seantater> Yanis: Breezy or Dapper?
[12:06] <fatmike> hi
[12:06] <Seantater> yanis: anything new when you open it up again?
[12:06] <fatmike> i have an intel 945gnt motherboard
[12:06] <Seantater> fatmike: anything you need help with concerning it?
[12:06] <fatmike> with intel 945 g onboard graphic
[12:06] <fatmike> how can i get opengl to work?
[12:07] <yanis> Seantater: it loads the pic :....
[12:07] <Seantater> fatmike: I don't think you can..
[12:07] <iNiku> okay, that was weird... the system menu on my panel was empty but now the entries are there again, after killing and restarting kicker
[12:07] <Seantater> fatmike: It's not linux, it's just that onboard graphics are not capable of using it well..
[12:08] <fatmike> really?
[12:08] <fatmike> can that be?
[12:08] <Seantater> fatmike: yes..
[12:08] <fatmike> but
[12:08] <fatmike> are u sure?
[12:08] <Seantater> fatmike: It's why I bought a video card.
[12:08] <Seantater> fatmike: it works, just at about 1 to 2 Frames per second..
[12:08] <fatmike> but i only want to get opengl screensaver and simple star parogs to run
[12:08] <Seantater> fatmike: so did I
[12:09] <fatmike> no 3d shooters
[12:09] <Seantater> fatmike: Same here..
[12:09] <fatmike> shit
[12:09] <Seantater> fatmike: Not even slideshows work well with onboard graphics..
[12:09] <fatmike> but under win32?!
[12:09] <fatmike> and osx
[12:09] <Seantater> fatmike: Not there either..
[12:09] <Seantater> fatmike: It's just the way onboard graphics work..
[12:10] <fatmike> i have a dualboot with win & osx and there is a good 3dacceleration
[12:10] <Seantater> fatmike: HOW?
[12:10] <fatmike> out of the box
[12:10] <fatmike> and with win32 drivers
[12:10] <Seantater> fatmike: But it's not exactly possible AFAIK
[12:10] <fatmike> there are also linux drivers on the intel website but not for kubuntu/debian
[12:10] <Seantater> fatmike: win32 is irrelevant, openGL is in Linux.
[12:11] <fatmike> i think osx also uses opengl
[12:11] <Seantater> fatmike: openGL is built-in to most video cards, just not on-board ones..
[12:12] <Seantater> fatmike: But video cards are not always expensive..
[12:12] <fatmike> i don't think the new intel onboard graphic doesn't support opengl
[12:12] <Seantater> fatmike: I can even play #d shotters with my 15$ USD one
[12:12] <fatmike> caant believe it
[12:12] <fatmike> i know
[12:12] <fatmike> okok
[12:12] <Seantater> fatmike: But you have to have some luck..
[12:12] <fatmike> i though i could make it pobbible by using the linux drivers on their website
[12:12] <Seantater> fatmike: My Video card is a 64 MB pci Nvidia..
[12:13] <Seantater> fatmike: It takes propritary drivers though, fron nvidia..
[12:13] <Seantater> fatmike: I don;t see how that will work..
[12:13] <Seantater> fatmike: It all goes through your processor and Xorg..
[12:14] <Seantater> Xorg is one of the fastest of it's kind AFAIK..
[12:14] <Seantater> fatmike: But if it works, tell me..
[12:14] <Seantater> fatmike: perhaps after all this video card was not needed..
[12:15] <fatmike> i'll going on searching
[12:33] <xst>  I've installed latex (tetex) on my dapper beta2 but for some reason long words are no longer breaked. Is hyphenation broke?
[12:36] <edulix> hello !
[12:37] <edulix> can anyone open with kpdf this document? http://www.olivequimica.com/pdf/olive600.pdf
[12:37] <Blissex> xst: you may have to enable it.
[12:38] <edulix> xpdf loads it just fine
[12:39] <xst> Blissex: Do you know where I do that?
[12:39] <xst> It is normally turned on though...
[12:39] <Blissex> xst:  in the document itself usually.
[12:40] <Blissex> xst: but perhaps you haven't installed the hyphenation tables.
[12:40] <xst> Blissex: It is enabled in the document. The document used to compile just well but in my new kubuntu installation word breaking does not work anymore.
[12:41] <Blissex> xst: then perhaps those hyphenation tables, or at least those for your language, are not installed or setup properly. Check the '.log'
[12:41] <paulb_> amarok dosn't seem to play anything
[12:43] <HymnToLife> paulb_> amarok pays pretty much everything if you configure it well
[12:43] <Falados> Hey, does anyone know how to build deKorator for Breezy 5.10?
[12:43] <paulb_> it says something about a gstreamer error
[12:48] <HymnToLife> paulb_> then install gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse and you should be OK
[12:51] <xst> Blissex: You're right: No hyphenation patterns are loaded at all. Do you know how I can enable them?
[12:51] <Blissex> xst: perhaps they have been split into separate packages...
[12:52] <Blissex> xst: use 'apt-cache search hyphenation' perhaps to find out.
[12:54] <xst> Blissex: Nope, nothing found containing the substring "tex" too. :-(  Hmm, damn...
[12:55] <Blissex> xst: rather unlikely I'd say...
[12:56] <xst> Blissex: Tons of openoffice hyphenation scemes and 5 other packages were found.
[12:58] <Blissex> xst: what may be happening also is that the hypenation tables are present but not compiled, in that case try to 'dpkg-reconfigure'
[01:04] <slow-motion> n8
[01:05] <paulb_> i still get [gstreamer Error]  ** gstmad.c(1206): gst_mad_check_caps_reset: /thread/decodebin1 /mad1: failed to negotiate 44100 Hz
[01:06] <Blissex> paulb_: probably your card can only do 48000 Hz. Try to use the 'plug:' prefix or tell gstreamer to convert to 48000 Hz.
[01:07] <paulb_> nevermind i changed the engine to the xine engine and now it works. but how would i do that?
[01:12] <word> Ummm will my install die if I let apt-get remove -  language-pack-en language-pack-en-base language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-en-base locales ubuntu-minimal ?
[01:15] <word> hello?
[01:15] <mrfishhat> yes
[01:16] <mrfishhat> it will die
[01:17] <word> Right now i have 2 broken installs locales and libxrender-dev and everytime i try a newer or older version of them it either conflicts with one of those or wnats to delete one of those
[01:18] <eosyn> anyone know how adept manages to lock itself? I cant find the lockfile for it and it keeps saying another adept is running although there isnt. I had to kill it because it blew up on j2re
[01:22] <word> What should i do?
[01:27] <xst> Would people in here recommend to install the amarok1.4-beta3 with dapper instead of the preinstalled 1.39?
[01:29] <robotgeek> xst: as with beta, do at your own risk :)
[01:30] <apokryphos> xst: it's pretty stable -- worth trying out, for sure.
[01:35] <xst> ok. When 1.4 is released will it then be added to the normal kubuntu dapper repository? (I don't like adding extra repositories, just for one single app)
[01:35] <robotgeek> xst: not in dapper, no
[01:35] <apokryphos> xst: why not?
[01:36] <apokryphos> anyhow, you don't *have* to add the repository -- you can manually download them
[01:36] <crimsun> xst: (kubuntu.org repos are offical)
[01:37] <xst> My problem is that http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta3 is both application AND version specific. So when a new amarok release is made, I have to re-edit the sources.list
[01:38] <xst> I mean "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta3 dapper main"
[01:38] <word> Hey uh...i have 2 broken installs.. locales and libxrender-dev...how can i fix them?
[01:39] <apokryphos> xst: big hassle?
[01:39] <apokryphos> you can just download the debs manually if you like
[01:40] <xst> I guess: I like that applications are automatically upgrade upon an "apt-get upgrade" but if the repository itself is version specific, then I guess no such version upgrade will ever appear.
[01:40] <xst> Or do I miss something?
[01:40] <apokryphos> that's correct
[01:41] <apokryphos> more or less
[01:42] <Chris_Tucker> i have a kcontrol problem all of the suddon. when i open a tab like login manager, click administrator mode, enter my password, hit enter or ok, it just takes me back to "welcome to the kde control center"... wtf is wrong?
[01:43] <charwood> It's day 4 and I've yet to figure out why my computer says 'Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!' whenever I run an opengl program.  If you have ideas please help.  I've seen so many forum postings and none of them have solved my problem.  Thanks.
[01:43] <Chris_Tucker> its happening to ANYTHING when i click the administrator mode button
[01:44] <davix> is there an easy way to set up my nvidia to display both thru my tv and my crt?
[01:46] <Chris_Tucker> ok ive got a more detailed response now: There was an error setting u inter-process communications for KDE. The message returned by the system was: Authentication Rejected, reason: none of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. Please check that the dcopserver program is running
[01:46] <Chris_Tucker> it is..
[01:46] <robotgeek> Chris_Tucker: did you enable root?
[01:46] <Chris_Tucker> robotgeek, yes
[01:47] <charwood> davix: Do you need to be able to switch on the fly?  Those settings are in your Display Driver section in Xorg.conf.  There "nvoption" program allegedly has a gui for this but I've never used it.
[01:48] <Chris_Tucker> robotgeek, is that whats causing this? sudo works just fine
[01:48] <robotgeek> Chris_Tucker: read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo , enabling root breaks gui admin tools
[01:49] <Chris_Tucker> robotgeek, that describe how to disable root again?
[01:49] <robotgeek> yeah
[01:51] <Steven_M> Hi all
[01:52] <Chris_Tucker> thanks robotgeek, rebooting for it all to sink in
[01:53] <word> Umm...my locales and libxrender-dev installs are broken...is there a way i can fix them? i've tried installing older and newer versions
[01:53] <robotgeek> word: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales, the -dev package doesn't matter
[01:54] <Steven_M> Have any of you ever had the frightening problem of ALL your icons dissapearing from kde?
[01:55] <robotgeek> Steven_M: hmm, no. can you describe a bit more?
[01:56] <word> ok
[01:56] <Chris_Tucker> robotgeek, um.. uh oh? its still broken, and ive disabled root
[01:57] <word> robotgeek: Which locales should i generate? aa_ER utf-8?
[01:57] <robotgeek> Chris_Tucker: not sure, sorry
[01:58] <robotgeek> word: i am not sure what your locale is
[01:58] <Steven_M> almost every icon you can possibly imagine is gone. For example the items on my kpanel are there but invisable
[01:58] <robotgeek> Steven_M: and what did you do?
[02:01] <Steven_M> I booted into recovery mode and ran fsck, after fixing a number of file system errors I tried kde again. No improvement
[02:04] <Steven_M> robotgeek: is there a way to rebuld kde's icon database?
[02:04] <chowells> KDE doesn't have a such a database AFAIK
[02:05] <Steven_M> any ideas?
[02:06] <apokryphos> Steven_M: in the control center alter the icon theme you're using, and then go back to that one. That's really the only way.
[02:06] <chowells> I would concetrate on finding out what caused the corruption
[02:10] <Steven_M> I think it was caused by booting into run level 3 which kdm on startup.
[02:10] <word> robotgeek: United states english
[02:10] <chowells> Steven_M: That should not cause file system corruption
[02:10] <Steven_M> got to go
[02:15] <Chris_Tucker> can someone open their /etc/shadow file and paste their root line? someone WITHOUT ROOT ACTIVATED IT IS NOT A SECURITY RISK TO SHOW ME THIS, ive activated root and screwed mine up
[02:15] <word> robotgeek: Which one woudl it be for united states and english?
[02:15] <Chris_Tucker> i need a good one to compare to
[02:18] <chowells> I think I'd class giving someone a hashed copy of your password a security risk
[02:24] <Chris_Tucker> chowells, no, if you do NOT have root enabled, its not, because theres no hash if theres no enabled.. its supposed to be a *
[02:24] <chowells> Chris_Tucker: oh sorry, I missed the "without"
[02:25] <Chris_Tucker> :/
[02:25] <Chris_Tucker> you have root disabled?
[02:25] <Chris_Tucker> i need all the data that goes around the *
[02:25] <Chris_Tucker> my admin guis are royally  screwed up
[02:26] <chowells2> root:*:13265:0:99999:7:::
[02:27] <Chris_Tucker> thanks
[02:27] <Chris_Tucker> mine had 13270, maybe that was the prob
[02:28] <Chris_Tucker> daemon and bin and sys and .... so on are all 13265
[02:28] <Chris_Tucker> lets see if it worked
[02:28] <Chris_Tucker> still broken, rebooting to make sure everything gets refreshed
[02:32] <word> robotgeek: I figured out which locale I needed but it still says it's broken
[02:33] <Chris_Tucker> #!#$)@!$(!)@$()!@)!!
[02:33] <Chris_Tucker> still broken
[02:37] <sagan> hi, why after install kubuntu my computer turn slow?
[02:37] <sagan> sorry for my bad english
[02:39] <Kadran> hi, i  have copied my files to other hd then installed kubuntu and now every thing is fine but i can't play any mp3 file
[02:40] <Kadran> it tells me that playlist is finnished without doing any thing
[02:40] <Kadran> any help? :)
[02:40] <_frank> !mp3
[02:40] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[02:40] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:40] <Kadran> i can't play even ogg
[02:41] <_frank> Kadran: umm.. try installing amarok-xine then changing the engine to xine in the amarok settings. Use adept to install amarok-xine
[02:42] <Kadran> i was using mdk linux before switching to kubuntu and it was working fine
[02:42] <Kadran> _frank: ok i will try now i was using xine before and it was working fine
[02:43] <_frank> Kadran: in breezy (5.10) amarok uses gstreamer by default
[02:43] <Kadran> _frank: i am using dapper
[02:44] <_frank> Kadran: oh. the xine is used by default I think
[02:44] <Kadran> _frank: yes i have checked and it is using xine
[02:45] <_frank> Kadran: you can ask in #ubuntu+1 for problems with dapper
[02:45] <Kadran> _frank: ok thanks alot :)
[02:49] <word> My locales install is broken and reconfiguring it didn't work...what else can i do?
[03:03] <word> My locales install is broken and reconfiguring it didn't work...what else can i do?
[03:11] <word> my locales install broke..what should i do?
[03:25] <Steven_M> hi all
[03:31] <word> My locales install is broke...any ideas?
[03:33] <Steven_M> I have a kubuntu install dvd that doubles as live cd. Is there an iso of an install dvd  on the website that's exactly like my dvd except for having kde 3.5.1 instead of kde 3.4.3
[03:38] <MEtaLpREs> is there a way to completely remove grub and boot directly to kubuntu?  grub just will not work and im sick of it and want it gone
[03:57] <awsed> weqzzzz
[04:10] <os2mac> anyone screw around with trying to get ndiswrapper to run on beta2 yet?
[04:13] <analia> hello. i have just installed kubuntu dapper 6.06 and added universe to repository, and installed xserver-xgl, nvidia-glx , compiz-kde
[04:24] <Random_Transit> hey...If i want to install windows after ubuntu...how do I restore grub?
[04:29] <Random_Transit> hello? can anyone help me out?
[04:29] <awsed> hi all
[04:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> Random_Transit: It's easier to know if you tell me the problem. :)
[04:30] <awsed> what?
[04:30] <Random_Transit> i was just asking, how do i repair grub after installing windows
[04:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> awsed: It's easier to know if I can figure out a problem if I know what it is.
[04:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: tell Random_Transit about grub
[04:32] <awsed> what's your name?
[04:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Something that I don't give out online.
[04:32] <Random_Transit> lol
[04:32] <Random_Transit> well, thanks for the help
[04:32] <awsed> why?
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Because I prefer not to...if you don't like it then don't talk to me. :P
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, that was a bad way of putting it.
[04:33] <awsed> really?
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> More like....if you don't like me because of that, then don't bother talking to me. :)
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes, and I'm not going to start giving it out now.
[04:34] <awsed> don't out
[04:34] <awsed> i like speak with u
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's fine, I don't mind talking to you. I just don't want to give out my name. :)
[04:35] <DaSkreech> How about your street address?
[04:35] <awsed> are you have a friendster?
[04:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> No
[04:36] <tes> pendo
[04:37] <awsed> pemai
[04:37] <awsed> cuki
[04:44] <shawn___> hey I'm about to install netbeans with the jdk netbeans bundle, any tips?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Dont?
[05:04] <barbbecker> !easysource
[05:04] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:07] <shawn___> well I need to install it for class so no choice... I'll ask somewhere else.
[05:08] <FearMoth> how do I use khotkeys in kubuntu dapper? I can't find anywhere to set it up
[05:12] <jeff_> hey guys
[05:12] <jeff_> any mldonkies in here?
[05:12] <jeff_> im on kubuntu dapper beta 2 and mine is broken
[05:12] <jeff_> and its messing up my apt
[05:13] <jeff_> and my apt doesnt like that at all
[05:13] <DaSkreech> Huh?
[05:13] <jeff_> my mldonkey is messing everything up
[05:14] <jeff_> i cant remove it, i cant reconfigure, i cant reinstall
[05:14] <jeff_> it just doesnt work and i dont know why or what to do
[05:14] <jeff_> i think it broke with the last upgrade
[05:17] <damian_> i
[05:17] <damian_> hi
[05:18] <jeff_> hi damian_
[05:19] <jeff_> any quanta users in here then?
[05:21] <Desh> Hi, quick question, my AMD64 Athlon 3200+ on my laptop is clocked at 2 GHz, however it has this option that under Windows XP for instance would run the proccessor at 800 MHz when it wasn;t plugged into AC power. The speed would rise as needed. However, even when plugged in, my proccessor runs at 800 MHz on Linux. Any ideas?
[05:22] <jeff_> Desh: maybe you can change that in your computer's setup
[05:22] <jeff_> Desh: like as soon as you turn on your computer, it gives you an option to setup the computer by pressing f12 or something
[05:23] <Desh> Well I could simply turn off the feature in the BIOS, but it's just odd that it would opt for 800 over the 2000, and like, if it were to run at 800 and rise if needed then it would be fine.
[05:23] <jeff_> before it srarts grub or kubuntu boot splash
[05:23] <Desh> Hmm..I'll ave to research how Linux treats that AMD tech..
[05:23] <Desh> Thanks though. :)
[05:24] <jeff_> yeah that would be smexy, but i dont know if theres any (k)ubuntu app that can handle that
[05:24] <jeff_> np
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Though AMD does put a good deal of money into Linux
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Desh: If you find out come back and let us know
[05:24] <Desh> RIght, I know XP would run it at 2GHz when plugged in, maybe Linux runs it at 800 MHz no matter what, and increases as needed.
[05:25] <Desh> But as soon as I find out, I'll let you all know. :)
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Thanks
[05:30] <Mark987> Desh: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_PowerNow!
[05:30] <Mark987> might give ya some ideas (haven't read the whole thing)
[05:30] <Desh> Alright, thanks.
[05:31] <Mark987> some kernel options to set seemingly...
[05:31] <Mark987> anyways. google'ing for amd and either cool'n'quiet or powernow should find some infos
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Mark987: Does it need the K7 kernel?
[05:33] <Desh> I have the k7.
[05:33] <Desh> Yeah...my laziness...and ADD...are kicking in...I can't read that now. >_<
[05:33] <Desh> Bookmarked. :)
[05:34] <Desh> Hmm...my laptop monitor randomly displays a gray box with blue letters, it says something like: LCD OFF or LCD ON. How do I disable that?
[05:38] <Mark987> Desh no idea... the only of my PCs that has one of those things (speedstep instead) actually runs windows. never had the pleasure of trying to get that to work in linux
[05:39] <Desh> Ah ok. No problem.
[05:39] <Desh> I have been blessed with a crappy XP CD...it won;t let me reinstall it...so even if I wanted to be a quitter and go back to Windows, I can;t. :)
[05:40] <Mark987> lol
[05:40] <Mark987> if it's just media issues... it's easy to find one
[05:41] <Mark987> as long as you have a key/it's licensed, the media itself is a non-issue really
[05:41] <Desh> Yeah...but I am lazy.
[05:41] <jeff_> is anybody getting frequent crashes with quanta?
[05:41] <Desh> If I can;t get Premiere to work I will eventually have to dual boot. I can only go w/o video editing for so long.
[05:41] <Desh> What is quanta?
[05:42] <Mark987> i doubt premiere could even work under wine or whatever...
[05:42] <Mark987> full blown AV NLE editing (a lot of directshow and fancy stuff there)
[05:42] <Desh> Well..when I stop being lazy and get my 3d working..I will try it.
[05:42] <Mark987> good luck, methinks you'll need it :p
[05:43] <Desh> I hope having a 9700 will pay off. Thanks.
[05:43] <Desh> Well I'm out, g'night al.
[05:43] <Desh> *all
[05:48] <mrfishhat> hey
[05:48] <mrfishhat> how do i use a .bin?
[05:49] <poningru> k3b
[05:49] <poningru> what do you want to do with it?
[05:49] <poningru> burn it to cd right?
[05:49] <poningru> or is it a vcd and you want to watch a vid?
[05:49] <mrfishhat> i want to install it
[05:49] <mrfishhat> it said it was a binary
[05:49] <mrfishhat> and it wasnt an rpm or a deb
[05:49] <mrfishhat> so alas
[05:50] <mrfishhat> confusion
[05:50] <DaSkreech> ./somefile.bin
[05:51] <r0xz> hey guys, i had problems with playing video on upgraded flight6 (since some days), no i did a fresh install of beta2 with w32codecs. but still no video playback(all mimetypes). Is this known?
[05:51] <mrfishhat> thaks
[05:51] <mrfishhat> ill give it a go
[05:53] <r0xz> because it always worked here flawless, and since some days it's not at all
[05:54] <fatejudger> !networkmanager
[05:54] <ubotu> networkmanager is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[05:59] <mrfishhat> umm
[05:59] <mrfishhat> the ./ didnt come up with anything
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Huh?
[06:10] <mrfishhat> ./somefile.bin   somfile replaced with filename
[06:13] <poningru> mrfishhat: ah gotcha
[06:13] <poningru> mrfishhat: make sure the bin is chmoded to allow executing
[06:13] <poningru> and then do the ./ thing
[06:29] <DaSkreech> mrfishhat: Hows that going?
[06:39] <r0xz> i am looking for a way to change the location of symlinks in a folder, but i can't get it right.
[06:40] <angel> alguien que me pueda ayudar?
[06:41] <r0xz> english....
[06:41] <angel> nop
[06:41] <angel> spanish
[06:42] <angel> engli!!!
[06:42] <DaSkreech> angel: try #kubuntu-es
[06:42] <angel> ty :D
[06:42] <angel> join!!!
[06:58] <r0xz> anyone with a smart idea how to get "ln -snf new current" working with regex? (could same me a couple of hundereds comand)
[07:00] <vursitis> hallo
[07:02] <Random_Transit> hey, question...I have a digital camera that can function also as a webcam...but linux won't recognize the webcam
[07:03] <Random_Transit> the camera is a Vivitar ViviCam 3632
[07:03] <Random_Transit> and I'm wondering if i need to download extra drivers for the webcam functions
[07:03] <Random_Transit> and if so...where can i find said drivers
[07:05] <Random_Transit> hello?
[07:06] <vursitis> Eh, I haven't done anything with webcams but i had the same sort of problem with a Wifi card, you could check to see if there are any binary converters for webcam drivers i honestly wouldnt know where to look though
[07:07] <Random_Transit> so, something akin to ndiswrapper?
[07:07] <vursitis> Somthing to the same extent
[07:08] <vursitis> I have not worked with webcams though, so i honestly couldnt tell you where or even what program to look for.
[07:09] <vursitis> http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/drivers.php
[07:09] <vursitis> try that
[07:10] <kameron> what's a nice web development environment for kde?
[07:11] <abattoir> kameron: Quanta Plus
[07:11] <vursitis> Anjuta
[07:12] <abattoir> http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[07:12] <abattoir> you could probably get it by 'sudo apt-get install quanta'
[07:12] <kameron> Quanta plus hey.
[07:12] <kameron> sounds intense.
[07:18] <vursitis> Lively channel.
[07:19] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:19] <Vursitis-X> Much better.
[07:28] <tomplast> goodmorning
[07:29] <tomplast> is there any packaging crashcourse   for (k)ubuntu?
[07:29] <tomplast> there are alot of software that i wanna have packaged :P
[07:30] <crimsun> doc.ubuntu.com
[07:30] <crimsun> click packaging guide in the lower right
[07:30] <tomplast> thanks
[07:38] <XVampireX> What is the best file format for writing documents? (I'm talking about things like PDF/CHM/etc...)
[07:38] <DaSkreech> text?
[07:38] <XVampireX> Other than text
[07:41] <DaSkreech> html?
[07:43] <jlund> Latest Dapper updates appear to disable DMA. My DVD burns are going at 1.7x where previously they would fly along at 10x+. Has anyone else noticed this?
[07:46] <NoUse> jlund have you checked the output of hdparm?
[07:47] <jlund> Yes, Dma is off
[07:48] <NoUse> jlund check with #ubuntu+1
[07:48] <jlund> I burned a DVD while apt-get dist-upgrade was running. When I rebooted just now I noticed the same burn is wildly slow.
[07:48] <jlund> Ok, thanks.
[07:49] <cc-dash> jlund: my burning-speed is just the same as before i've updated drapper ...
[07:50] <DaSkreech> jlund: How wise is it to be using a program and subsystems when doing a dist-upgrade?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/rms-ati-protest.html
[07:52] <DaSkreech> haha
[07:52] <jlund> Well, there isn't ever really any alternative is there? I mean unless you run it from console mode ever time.
[07:53] <jlund> I've been running on it since Flight 4 but I plan on doing a full reinstall once the beta is over. I've been testing as much as I can.
[08:00] <fede> hi
[08:13] <crweb> new dapper cups system won't let me login anymore
[08:13] <crweb> even if i'm part of the lpadmin group
[08:13] <crweb> cupsdAuthorize: pam_authenticate() returned 7
[08:30] <XVampireX> Hey, I installed kubuntu on top of ubuntu some time ago, can I somehow remove ubuntu now without hurting kubuntu?
[08:30] <XVampireX> And not just removing ubuntu-desktop
[08:38] <mathiasbrito> someone knows how to play encrypted wmv in xine!?
[08:38] <mathiasbrito> with xine?
[08:39] <mathiasbrito> :P
[08:46] <nysosym> good morning :)
[08:46] <mathiasbrito> here is night! :D
[08:46] <nysosym> ohh okay ^^
[08:47] <nysosym> i have a little problem with amarok, the sound is very crappy when i change the position of the seekbar
[08:48] <nysosym> in use is Xine Engine
[08:54] <mlivneh> hello. is there a way to make the desktop icons in KDE smaller?
[08:55] <crweb> it's int he System Settings, under icons, or desktop
[08:55] <crweb> Appearance -> Icons
[08:55] <crweb> Advanced
[09:00] <mzinz> HOW do I change from military to standard time????
[09:02] <abattoir> mzinz: If you mean the format... Rt. Click on the clock->Adjust Date and Time format... you could specify your own format if you want to.
[09:03] <mzinz> abattoir: finally, thanks so much.  It shows that it changed in the adjustment window, but it still says 00:03.. will it change with a log off/on?
[09:04] <abattoir> try Alt+F2 : killall kicker && kicker
[09:04] <abattoir> but i think apply should work...
[09:04] <me2win> better way is dcop kicker kicker restart
[09:04] <mzinz> Whats the default Kubuntu text editor? Is there a more basic one than kate?
[09:05] <me2win> mzinz: there is nano, its CL editor
[09:06] <mzinz> me2win: is gedit for gnome
[09:06] <me2win> mzinz: yes, its just like kate
[09:06] <me2win> mzinz: same level of editing capabilities that is
[09:06] <me2win> mzinz: but you can use it in KDE also
[09:09] <mzinz> me2win: ic, thanks.
[09:11] <mzinz> abattoir: btw, the killall and restart worked.
[09:11] <abattoir>  :)
[09:12] <me2win> mzinz: you can use dcop kicker kicker restart as well to restart the kicker
[09:12] <mzinz> me2win: whats dcop
[09:29] <mzinz> Keyboard shortcut to switch from Desktop-to-Desktop?
[09:29] <me2win> mzinz: try shift + direction
[09:39] <_s3B4s_> hello :D
[09:40] <_s3B4s_> somebody knows a good software to use a scanner genius?
[09:44] <mzinz> I uninstalled Gnome and it took Eclipse with it.  I tried reinstalling Eclipse but got errors.  I did a complete removal, then a re-install, and now I get different errors.. What can I try??
[09:45] <n3storm> mzinz: what errors?
[09:45] <mzinz> n3storm: ill show u the ss
[09:45] <n3storm> at pastebin.com
[09:45] <n3storm> please
[09:46] <mzinz> n3storm: its all coded errors, a dialogue box, and its sorta long
[09:46] <n3storm> eclipse error messages?
[09:46] <n3storm> have you tried running eclipse from konsole?
[09:46] <mzinz> n3storm: its like a runtime error while eclipse is booting
[09:47] <mzinz> same thing happens
[09:48] <n3storm> but can you copy-paste messages from konsole?
[09:49] <mzinz> n3storm: they aren't konsole messages its a text box in kde
[09:49] <n3storm> mmm
[09:49] <n3storm> bad for debugging
[09:49] <n3storm> anyway
[09:49] <mzinz> n3storm: yeah.
[09:50] <mzinz> n3storm: k hang on uploading
[09:50] <mzinz> Is KOffice as good as OpenOffice.org2? Sorry, random
[09:50] <n3storm> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.1.2-200601181600/index.php
[09:51] <n3storm> mzinz: I think eclipse is pretty attached to gtk2 and gtk2 in ubuntu might be pretty attached to gnome packages
[09:51] <mzinz> n3storm: what do you recommend
[09:52] <n3storm> keep gnome packages
[09:52] <mzinz> n3storm: too late for that.
[09:52] <mzinz> n3storm: i got rid of gnome thinking it would just get rid of the gnome only apps and nothing more
[09:52] <mzinz> which is what i was told
[09:52] <mzinz> http://www.fileh.com/TylerLucas/graphics/snapshot4.png
[09:53] <n3storm> mzinz can you check you still have java on those paths in the message?
[09:54] <mzinz> n3storm: what do you mean if i still have java exactly
[09:54] <n3storm> "/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java"
[09:55] <n3storm> I guess you do, otherwise you even wouldn't see the message?
[09:55] <mzinz> ohh, if the java app is there
[09:55] <mzinz> hold
[09:55] <mzinz> yeah, i do.
[09:55] <n3storm> mmm
[09:57] <n3storm> mzinz: did you downloaded eclipse or apt-get it?
[10:04] <mzinz> n3storm: apt-get
[10:04] <mzinz> n3storm: through synaptic.
[10:08] <n3storm> mzinz: and if you apt-get install it again, what happens?
[10:08] <n3storm> apt-get install eclipse platform
[10:10] <mzinz> n3storm: should i uninstall first
[10:11] <n3storm> yes
[10:12] <mzinz> n3storm: k, removed, im going to do sudo apt-get install eclipse-platform
[10:14] <n3storm> mzinz: that's right
[10:14] <mzinz> Random question: is there any way to change the default 'area' that files are saved on my kde desktop? They usually save to top-left and they're always blocked by my desktop widgets etc
[10:15] <mzinz> sameerror
[10:15] <mzinz> same error*
[10:17] <Den> Hi - Anyone know how I can add new new "ToDo Categories" in Kontact's ToDo list?
[10:20] <n3storm> Den
[10:20] <n3storm> click on add Todo note
[10:21] <n3storm> then on choose a category
[10:21] <n3storm> and then on edit category
[10:21] <n3storm> there you have
[10:24] <Den> n3storm: Thanks - with your help I just found it - the exact answer I needed could have been "Click on Settings > Edit Categories" - Thanks :)
[10:24] <n3storm> Den: ah, thanks to you too!
[10:26] <Zerak> anyone know when will the official release of dapper drake be? Remembered they moved it forward
[10:26] <Den> n3storm: Anyidea how I can get the latest Kontact into Breezy?  How can I find out if it is backported?
[10:27] <Den> Zerak: AFAID it's June 1
[10:27] <n3storm> 3.5.2?
[10:27] <Den> er, AFAIK
[10:27] <n3storm> or 4?
[10:27] <Zerak> oh so far, on the other hand they seem to need it
[10:29] <n3storm> Den: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[10:29] <Den> n3storm: If that 3.5.2?? was to me, i don't know the anser
[10:30] <n3storm> [10:26]  <Den> n3storm: Anyidea how I can get the latest Kontact into Breezy?  How can I find out if it is backported?
[10:30] <n3storm> didn't you ask me that?
[10:30] <Den> n3storm: yes
[10:31] <n3storm> with KDE 3.5.2 you will get latest Kontact and latest everything else
[10:31] <Den> n3storm: I can't figure out an answer to my question from that link - announcement
[10:31] <n3storm> Kontact goes together with KDE, is not a separate app
[10:32] <n3storm> if you can't figure out an answer then maybe you don't need latest Kontact ;)
[10:34] <Den> n3storm: So what would I do (I have 3.4.3) - would I put the new lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, then Adept update everything - all of kde?
[10:34] <n3storm> Den: that's right
[10:37] <Vampis> Morning
[10:37] <Den> n3storm: So, what's up with the concept of "backports" - WAouldn't it be reasonable to expect that when a new KDE is released, it get's put in the backports area, so it can just be automaticlly updated?
[10:38] <n3storm> Den: backports, mmm, I'm not sure, I just know that if you are not really good getting inside the system backports can be dangerous
[10:38] <n3storm> and I don't want to mess around with the system
[10:38] <n3storm> Instead,
[10:38] <n3storm> this are not backports
[10:39] <n3storm> these packages are done for breezy
[10:39] <n3storm> not done for dapper and backported to breezy later on
[10:39] <Den> n3storm: but having to manually change sources.list, & deal with how to pull in a new kde over an old kde seems less well documented, and more prone to errors that having the backports set up properly
[10:41] <Den> n3storm: By the way, if I update sources.list with the new KDE repositories, will I have to go into adept & find a kde 3.5.2 item, & select it?  Will I also have to select to uninstall the current kde?
[10:43] <n3storm> Den: you can change your sources list with Adept, and after doing it you just have to do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[10:43] <n3storm> nothing else
[10:43] <n3storm> kde 3.5.2 goes like a charm
[10:43] <n3storm> it works for me
[10:43] <Vampis> for me 2
[10:44] <n3storm> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[10:44] <n3storm> ## repository.
[10:44] <n3storm> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[10:44] <n3storm> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[10:44] <n3storm> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[10:44] <n3storm> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[10:44] <n3storm> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[10:44] <n3storm> this is at sources.list file
[10:44] <n3storm> instead, on the web page there is no warning at all
[10:49] <Den> Thanks everyone , n3storm :)
[10:57] <n3storm> Den: your welcome!
[11:14] <tomplast> can anyone tell me why i get "wine: error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to runwine?
[11:18] <sistar> hey...
[11:19] <sistar> anyone able to help me with some audio cd and dvd playing probs?
[11:21] <kubuntu1sttime> I need help!
[11:21] <kubuntu1sttime> :)
[11:21] <kubuntu1sttime> apt-get keeps resolving wrong ip address
[11:22] <kubuntu1sttime> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[11:22] <sistar> or can anyone suggest a good tech help chatroom?
[11:22] <kubuntu1sttime> why does apt-get think that the address is 1.0.0.0 ?
[11:23] <kubuntu1sttime> has anyone had this problem before ?
[11:23] <HymnToLife> kubuntu1sttime> is your DNS server working ?
[11:24] <kubuntu1sttime> Yes, I'm on irc on the same machine
[11:24] <kubuntu1sttime> ping seems to work too
[11:24] <kubuntu1sttime> firefox apt-get doesn't
[11:24] <kubuntu1sttime> keep resolving 1.0.0.0
[11:25] <HymnToLife> are you using a proxy or something ?
[11:25] <kubuntu1sttime> router
[11:25] <kubuntu1sttime> that's built in my adsl modem
[11:26] <kubuntu1sttime> my resolv.conf points to 192.168.1.1
[11:26] <kubuntu1sttime> I have a windows machine here that works fine
[11:26] <kubuntu1sttime> on the same lan
[11:27] <sistar> any leads @ all?
[11:27] <iNiku> can you ping archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:27] <kubuntu1sttime> yes I can
[11:27] <kubuntu1sttime> ping works
[11:28] <iNiku> host archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:28] <n3storm> kubuntu1sttime: don't trust the router for dns solving
[11:28] <kubuntu1sttime> archive.ubuntu.com has address 85.133.25.8
[11:28] <kubuntu1sttime> Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet
[11:29] <iNiku> uh. wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[11:29] <n3storm> kubuntu1sttime: what model is your router?
[11:29] <kubuntu1sttime> wget works too.. downloads the index.html file
[11:29] <kubuntu1sttime> I have to check .. hold on
[11:29] <iNiku> well, I don't see how apt-get could get a different result from the resolver, then
[11:30] <iNiku> what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:30] <kubuntu1sttime> It's a xavi
[11:31] <kubuntu1sttime> I havn't touched sources.list it's the default for kubuntu 6.06 beta2
[11:33] <kubuntu1sttime> wait.. after I did wget apt-get resolvs the address
[11:33] <kubuntu1sttime> how can this be ?
[11:33] <iNiku> sounds like the bad address was cached somewhere
[11:34] <iNiku> in your router, most likely
[11:34] <kubuntu1sttime> it keeps loosing it
[11:34] <kubuntu1sttime> can I paste some lines here ?
[11:34] <kubuntu1sttime> without getting kicked ? :)
[11:34] <iNiku> if not too many
[11:34] <iNiku> !paste
[11:34] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[11:34] <kubuntu1sttime> ok just 2 lines then
[11:35] <kubuntu1sttime> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg
[11:35] <kubuntu1sttime>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0). - connect (113 No route to host)
[11:35] <iNiku> what if you ping it now?
[11:36] <kubuntu1sttime> ping works ok all the time
[11:36] <iNiku> well, there's no reason why ping should have better luck resolving it than apt-get
[11:36] <kubuntu1sttime> hmm
[11:37] <iNiku> do you mean you have ping running all the time?
[11:37] <kubuntu1sttime> no
[11:37] <kubuntu1sttime> but when apt-get doesn't work ping does
[11:37] <iNiku> uh. that makes no sense.
[11:38] <kubuntu1sttime> keeps going back and forth.. what did you mean by bad address chaching ?
[11:38] <iNiku> as a workaround, you could put archive.ubuntu.com in your /etc/hosts
[11:38] <iNiku> but it really shouldn't be doing that
[11:39] <kubuntu1sttime> the problem is not only that host
[11:39] <iNiku> well, resolvers and name servers cache the query results so if the nameserver on your router gets the bad address somehow, it will probably cache it for a while
[11:39] <iNiku> what does dig archive.ubuntu.com say?
[11:40] <kubuntu1sttime> dig works
[11:40] <iNiku> does it show two addresses?
[11:40] <shanky> hi
[11:40] <iNiku> .7 and .8
[11:40] <kubuntu1sttime> two ?
[11:41] <kubuntu1sttime> only .7
[11:41] <iNiku> archive.ubuntu.com.     245     IN      A       85.133.25.7
[11:41] <iNiku> archive.ubuntu.com.     245     IN      A       85.133.25.8
[11:41] <iNiku> that's what it tells me
[11:41] <kubuntu1sttime> I get only .7
[11:41] <shanky> since kubuntu live, is there any way to install it?
[11:41] <iNiku> and what does the SERVER line say?
[11:41] <cc-dash> kubuntu1sttime: do you have this problem only with http-requests?
[11:41] <kubuntu1sttime> SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
[11:42] <iNiku> okay. do you know which nameservers your router is using?
[11:42] <kubuntu1sttime> cc-dash: I think so
[11:42] <iNiku> you can probably see them in your router config or status somewhere
[11:42] <kubuntu1sttime> iNiku: Yes.. If I manually put the two nameservers in resolv.conf it work fine until I get the new dhcp update
[11:43] <iNiku> hmm
[11:44] <kubuntu1sttime> Is it possible to get automatic ip address from dhcp but keep static name server ?
[11:44] <iNiku> sounds like the nameserver in your router is broken somehow
[11:44] <iNiku> yes
[11:44] <iNiku> in dhclient.conf, but I can't remember the exact option
[11:44] <kubuntu1sttime> iNiku: I also think it has to do with the router but why does windows xp work ok then ?
[11:44] <kubuntu1sttime> ok I'll check
[11:45] <iNiku> dunno, and it makes no sense that it only fails with some applications
[11:45] <kubuntu1sttime> wait
[11:45] <iNiku> because the requests are made by the resolver library which should be common to all apps
[11:45] <kubuntu1sttime> hmm..
[11:46] <iNiku> supersede domain-name-servers x.x.x.x, y.y.y.y;
[11:46] <iNiku> I think. not 100% on the syntax to specify multiple servers
[11:46] <iNiku> if the , doesn't work, then maybe
[11:47] <iNiku> supersede domain-name-servers x.x.x.x;
[11:47] <iNiku> append domain-name-servers y.y.y.y;
[11:47] <kubuntu1sttime> ok
[11:47] <iNiku> you could also see if there's a firmware upgrade for your router that fixes it
[11:47] <kubuntu1sttime> that's a good idea
[11:48] <kubuntu1sttime> but right now I'm on live-cd so I'm not going to change anything
[11:48] <iNiku> but I still don't see how it could be broken like that in the first place
[11:48] <kubuntu1sttime> I tried 6.06 beta to see if it was any different .. on the computer I have the previous release installed
[11:49] <n3storm> kubuntu1sttime: what maker and model is your router?
[11:49] <iNiku> so you have the same problem in both breezy and dapper?
[11:50] <kubuntu1sttime> xav x8222r
[11:50] <kubuntu1sttime> yes same problem
[11:50] <kubuntu1sttime> that's xavi x8222r
[11:51] <Mars^> Hi i am having some problem. I connected my psp to usb port. But i caqnt write anything in there. And i dont know how to make it work. I tried  chmod 777 /media/sdb1 but it doesent work.
[11:51] <kubuntu1sttime> iNiku: Could it be that I only have one line in resolv.conf and sometimes it tries to read a second line ?
[11:51] <iNiku> kubuntu1sttime: no, it's okay to have only one
[11:52] <kubuntu1sttime> because 1.0.0.0 looks like a default thing
[11:52] <kubuntu1sttime> ok
[11:52] <iNiku> and I've never heard of 1.0.0.0 being used as a default anywhere
[11:52] <kubuntu1sttime> ok
[11:53] <iNiku> I have a similar config at home (different router tho) and it works fine
[11:53] <zmo> kubuntu1sttime: another thing you can try is disabling ipv6
[11:53] <kubuntu1sttime> zmo: Where do I do that ?
[11:54] <zmo> kubuntu1sttime: in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases you locate the line alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[11:54] <kubuntu1sttime> zmo: just comment it out ?
[11:54] <zmo> kubuntu1sttime: and change that line to read: alias net-pf-10 off
[11:54] <kubuntu1sttime> aha
[11:54] <zmo> kubuntu1sttime: then reboot
[11:54] <kubuntu1sttime> ok
[11:55] <kubuntu1sttime> So should I install dapper or boot back to breezy ? Is dapper unstable ?
[11:55] <iNiku> hmm. there are no AAAA records for archive.ubuntu.com so it shouldn't be trying with ipv6...
[11:56] <iNiku> but yeah, won't hurt to try that
[11:56] <kubuntu1sttime> ok
[11:58] <kubuntu1sttime> now it's back.. 1.0.0.0
[11:58] <iNiku> find out the nameservers your router is using and do this:
[11:58] <iNiku> dig archive.ubuntu.com @nameserverip
[11:58] <iNiku> for each
[11:59] <iNiku> see if they report any differences
[11:59] <kubuntu1sttime> ok
[11:59] <kubuntu1sttime> konqueror seems to work fine while apt-get doesn't..
[12:00] <kubuntu1sttime> iNiku: they report the same.. but this time I have both .7 and .8
[12:01] <kubuntu1sttime> and still apt-get doesn't work
[12:01] <kubuntu1sttime> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[12:01] <n3storm> kubuntu1sttime: what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces file?
[12:01] <n3storm> sorry if I missed something
[12:01] <kubuntu1sttime> auto eth0
[12:01] <kubuntu1sttime> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:02] <n3storm> nothing else?
[12:02] <kubuntu1sttime> yeah I have other interfaces too
[12:02] <kubuntu1sttime> ahh.. you mean it looks at another interface ?
[12:02] <n3storm> no, but maybe
[12:02] <n3storm> XD
[12:02] <n3storm> anyway
[12:03] <iNiku> no, it uses the nameserver(s) in your resolv.conf to resolve names
[12:03] <kubuntu1sttime> ok
[12:03] <iNiku> and if they are unreachable, you'll get an error that says so
[12:03] <n3storm> kubuntu1sttime: write down this at this interface
[12:03] <iNiku> the only thing I can think of is that the nameserver on your router is seriously broken
[12:03] <n3storm> dns-nameservers 168.95.1.1
[12:03] <n3storm> well, use the DNS server of your choice
[12:04] <kubuntu1sttime> where do I put that line ? anywhere ?
[12:04] <iNiku> ah, that's right, it's better to do it like that instead of in dhclient.conf
[12:04] <kubuntu1sttime> ok
[12:04] <iNiku> put it after iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:04] <kubuntu1sttime> ok
[12:05] <kubuntu1sttime> no change.. do I need to restart something ?
[12:05] <iNiku> ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0
[12:06] <iNiku> but
[12:06] <n3storm> I know
[12:06] <n3storm> it want work, but just for a try
[12:06] <kubuntu1sttime> no.. doesn't work
[12:06] <n3storm> mmm
[12:06] <kubuntu1sttime> I mean the interface thing
[12:06] <iNiku> that will only affect the nameserver lines in your resolv.conf
[12:06] <iNiku> how does it not work?
[12:06] <iNiku> do you get an error message?
[12:07] <kubuntu1sttime> No.. apt-get update still looks for 1.0.0.0
[12:07] <iNiku> okay
[12:07] <n3storm> iNiku: is apt the only application is not working for him?
[12:07] <iNiku> n3storm: apparently, yeah
[12:07] <iNiku> makes no sense to me
[12:07] <kubuntu1sttime> no..firefox doesn't either.. but I don't have firefox on this live cd
[12:07] <kubuntu1sttime> but kunqueror works
[12:08] <iNiku> umm
[12:08] <n3storm> this stuff has happened to me before
[12:08] <n3storm> mmm
[12:08] <n3storm> with sarge
[12:08] <iNiku> oh, I just thought of something
[12:08] <kubuntu1sttime> yeah ?
[12:08] <kubuntu1sttime> hmm..
[12:08] <iNiku> I'm pretty sure firefox will try to resolve an ipv6 address first
[12:08] <kubuntu1sttime> ok
[12:08] <iNiku> and if that fails, then the ipv4 address
[12:09] <iNiku> apt-get might be doing the same
[12:09] <n3storm> mmm
[12:09] <n3storm> don't think so
[12:09] <iNiku> and maybe those ipv6 queries are breaking the nameserver on y our router
[12:09] <kubuntu1sttime> can I disample ipv6 now without rebooting ?
[12:09] <kubuntu1sttime> disable I mean
[12:09] <n3storm> why don't you try forcing your gateway for dhcp?
[12:09] <iNiku> n3storm: it's not a gateway issue, it's a dns issue
[12:10] <n3storm> is not a dns issue either, is an apt issue
[12:10] <iNiku> well, no, if firefox doesn't work either
[12:10] <kubuntu1sttime> no it's not only apt
[12:10] <n3storm> aaah
[12:10] <n3storm> sorry then
[12:10] <n3storm> wait
[12:10] <iNiku> it's a dns issue if archive.ubuntu.com resolves to 1.0.0.0 for some apps
[12:10] <kubuntu1sttime> yepp
[12:10] <iNiku> I actually think ipv6 combined with a bug in your router's nameserver is the reason
[12:11] <kubuntu1sttime> is there a way to trace how apt gets its IP ? :)
[12:11] <n3storm> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html
[12:11] <iNiku> you could ry disabling ipv6 in firefox
[12:11] <iNiku> to see if that solves it for you
[12:11] <n3storm> you mean doing this?
[12:11] <iNiku> for firefox
[12:12] <iNiku> apt-get uses wget, doesn't it?
[12:12] <iNiku> or maybe not
[12:13] <n3storm> no, iNiku
[12:13] <n3storm> curl maybe used too I think
[12:14] <iNiku> okay
[12:14] <iNiku> kubuntu1sttime: what does dig AAAA archive.ubuntu.com say?
[12:14] <iNiku> and dig A6 archive.ubuntu.com
[12:14] <kubuntu1sttime> ok.. what am I looking for ?
[12:15] <iNiku> is there an ANSWER section in the dig output?
[12:15] <kubuntu1sttime> no answer
[12:15] <iNiku> as in, no answer at all? or an answer with no ANSWER section?
[12:16] <kubuntu1sttime> No answer section
[12:16] <iNiku> okay
[12:16] <kubuntu1sttime> on both AAAA and A6
[12:16] <iNiku> hmm.
[12:16] <iNiku> well anyway, I'd suggest disabling ipv6 as n3storm said
[12:17] <n3storm> kubuntu1sttime: can you check in synaptic you haven't a proxy configured?
[12:17] <n3storm> or auto proxy or something like that?
[12:17] <kubuntu1sttime> synaptic ?
[12:17] <kubuntu1sttime> you mean Adept =?
[12:18] <nysosym> Hello all :D
[12:19] <kubuntu1sttime> can't find such a setting in Adept
[12:19] <kubuntu1sttime> is there a parameter to make apt-get not use ipv6 ?
[12:20] <iNiku> don't think so
[12:20] <iNiku> hmm, wonder if you could just rmmod ipv6
[12:20] <iNiku> probably not
[12:20] <kubuntu1sttime> :)
[12:20] <n3storm> XD
[12:20] <iNiku> or maybe if you take down all of your network interfaces first
[12:21] <iNiku> but it's probably still used by something
[12:21] <kubuntu1sttime> force it hehe
[12:22] <iNiku> porbably not a good idea :)
[12:22] <kubuntu1sttime> ok.. I'll try next time I boot into breezy
[12:22] <iNiku> did you say you don't have firefox now?
[12:22] <iNiku> can you get it?
[12:22] <kubuntu1sttime> yes
[12:22] <kubuntu1sttime> download it ?
[12:23] <iNiku> yeah, and try it
[12:23] <iNiku> see if disabling ipv6 helps
[12:26] <kubuntu1sttime> why can't I start it ?
[12:26] <kubuntu1sttime> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:26] <iNiku> oh, you're missing some libraries
[12:26] <kubuntu1sttime> and I need apt-get to get them hehehe
[12:27] <n3storm> kubuntu1sttime: have you installed nmap?
[12:27] <kubuntu1sttime> no
[12:27] <n3storm> mmm
[12:27] <iNiku> ugh, nevermind. just do the global ipv6 disable thing, I have a feeling that will sort you out
[12:27] <iNiku> but the root cause is most likely a bug in your router's software
[12:27] <kubuntu1sttime> Yeah.. I'll try that and report back to you later :)
[12:28] <n3storm> good luck!
[12:28] <kubuntu1sttime> thanks for all the help guys!
[12:28] <iNiku> np :)
[12:28] <kubuntu1sttime> bye
[01:01] <fatmike> hi
[01:01] <fatmike> does anyone know how to get the kdocker app for dapper?
[01:02] <chavo> fatmike, kxdocker?
[01:02] <apokryphos> fatmike: enable universe and install it
[01:02] <urthaur> why
[01:02] <apokryphos> !info kxdocker dapper
[01:02] <ubotu> kxdocker: (innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.39-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 253 kB, Installed size: 824 kB
[01:02] <genio> hola
[01:02] <urthaur> why
[01:02] <genio> algun espaol quie pueda ayudarme?!
[01:03] <urthaur> no se
[01:03] <zmo> !es
[01:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:03] <genio> gracias!
[01:03] <genio> thx!
[01:04] <ompaul> heh
[01:04] <ompaul> thats the one
[01:04] <fatmike> not the kxdocker but the KDOCKER app
[01:04] <fatmike> to minimize all apps into the systray
[01:05] <fatmike> under kde
[01:05] <apokryphos> fatmike: it comes with kde -- read the kde userguide
[01:05] <fatmike> really?
[01:06] <apokryphos> well, not sure if that's its name, but kde comes with a tool to have your apps in the systray, yes
[01:07] <apokryphos> ksystray, that's it
[01:07] <fatmike> http://freshmeat.net/projects/kdocker/
[01:08] <apokryphos> fatmike: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/windows-how-to-work.html#system-tray
[01:28] <saaida> any one here can help me please with installing Rufus ?
[01:40] <giu85> hi at al l my beautiful flowers
[01:57] <monad> hi.... how can i start X apps remotely via ssh? i thought typing ssh -X user@... did the trick
[01:58] <Dr3as> monad: that works for me
[01:58] <monad> but when i type "kmail" it get: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.
[02:02] <visik7> monad: u need to export the display
[02:02] <visik7> and also need to allow remote apps to attach to it
[02:03] <visik7> moreover u need to disable --nolisten tcp
[02:14] <kosh> that does not sound right
[02:14] <kosh> if ssh -X user@server  is not working to allow you to just run apps then something is broken somewhere
[02:15] <kosh> ssh -X will forward the x connection, set the display, authority etc
[02:22] <Kubutuzado> somebody can help me?!
[02:22] <Hobbsee> !+someone
[02:22] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[02:22] <Kubutuzado> xDDDDDDDDDDD
[02:22] <Kubutuzado> ok
[02:23] <Kubutuzado> the next question is.....
[02:23] <Kubutuzado> i want configure a samba server to user segurity
[02:23] <Kubutuzado> when i try to enter apears this mistake
[02:24] <Kubutuzado> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_PASSWORD_MUST_CHANGE
[02:24] <Kubutuzado> and it is my configration http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13273
[02:24] <Kubutuzado> can you help me?!
[02:25] <Hobbsee> Kubutuzado: i've got no idea about samba at all, sorry...
[02:26] <zmo> Kubutuzado: did u create a samba user yet? smbpasswd -a <username>
[02:28] <Kubutuzado> yeah!
[02:28] <Kubutuzado> and this user have the same name as a system user
[02:30] <zmo> Kubutuzado: and from what platform are you trying to access the samba server?
[02:31] <xst> Strange problem: When I go to System Settings and press the button "Administrator Mode" (as regular user), I get the following error message: "Su returned with an error". I'm using dapper beta 2. If I the same thing as the user created upon installation I get no error messages. What to do?
[02:33] <zmo> xst: is this user member of the admin group?
[02:33] <zmo> xst: check system setting -> users & groups
[02:34] <xst> zmo: No it is not. Guess that explains it. But the error message is still somewhat bad.
[02:35] <mhterres> hey guys
[02:36] <zmo> xst: file a bug :)
[02:44] <seppi> hello
[02:44] <seppi> ya quelqun ???
[02:44] <seppi> nan ya personne ???
[02:44] <seppi> arff
[02:45] <seppi> je voulais juste savoir comment changer le theme pour KDE sous KUBUNTU
[02:45] <iNiku> unsupported language error
[02:45] <zmo> !fr
[02:45] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:49] <xst> I'm having a problem with audio and new users (using dapper/beta2): The loudspeaker in the panel is marked with a red cross indicating that audio is turned off and holding the mouse over the blue loudspeaker icon pops up with the message "mixer cannot be found". The user IS joined to the audio group...
[02:50] <cfraz89> does it work for the first user?
[02:50] <xst> Yes
[02:51] <cfraz89> ok
[02:51] <cfraz89> what groups are your new users in?
[02:51] <cfraz89> besides audio
[02:51] <seppi> okay, i'm on the chat for kubuntu EN ??
[02:52] <xst> Do you know a commandline to show these groups?
[02:52] <cfraz89> 'groups'
[02:52] <seppi> my question is about the KDE theme !!!
[02:53] <seppi> how install theme in KDE ??
[02:53] <xst> cfraz89: The user is in "adm cdrom audio dip backup video plugdev games scanner admin"
[02:53] <HymnToLife> seppi> go to kde-looks.org (or something of that sort)
[02:53] <cfraz89> shouldnt they be in their own group aswell?
[02:54] <zmo> seppi: start kcontrol -> Theme Manager -> Install New Theme
[02:54] <xst> cfraz89: Hmm, they actually are. Forgot to copy that group over. Sorry.
[02:54] <cfraz89> oh ok
[02:55] <seppi> HymnToLife: lol okay thanks
[02:55] <cfraz89> hmmm
[02:56] <xst> cfraz89: Eh, thigs are really crazy here. Now I logged out and in for the 2736482734 time and suddenly audio works now. Guess some processes didn't finish off corectly the last times I logged out?
[02:56] <xst> Really strange
[02:58] <cfraz89> yeah strange
[02:58] <xst> thanks anyway
[02:58] <cfraz89> np
[03:00] <Lorenzod> Hm.. I *still* can't get amarok or juk to work..
[03:01] <FauxFaux> Anyone had any success with B2 on an Abit Fatal1ty AN8-SLI (amd64/venice 3000, nvidia chipset/graphics/..)? I get no usb keyboard support, and then it hangs at "Booting the kernel".
[03:02] <Lorenzod> Both amarok and juk die while I try to import music.
[03:03] <Lorenzod> I'm sure taglib may be the culprit, but I've purged and reinstalled, all to no avail.. :-(
[03:04] <apricot> how to remove krusader?
[03:04] <apricot> i have problems starting it
[03:04] <Lorenzod> apricot: apt-get remove krusader
[03:05] <Lorenzod> Of course, that would be: sudo apt-get remove krusader
[03:07] <apricot> i have problems when starting sudo krusader, help?
[03:08] <zmo> apricot: best practice is not to use sudo but kdesu for kde apps
[03:08] <apricot> will it run root permision?
[03:08] <zmo> apricot: yup
[03:10] <apricot> thanks, now i learned something
[03:10] <zmo> yw
[03:21] <xoso> how can i set a static IP ?
[03:22] <mhterres> xoso: where ?
[03:22] <mhterres> xoso: do you want to set a static IP in your computer ?
[03:22] <HymnToLife> xoso> gksudo network-admin
[03:22] <xoso> yes i want a static ip in my computer
[03:23] <HymnToLife> oh, no it's #kubuntu here sorry
[03:23] <HymnToLife> you have something about it in the Settings panel
[03:25] <xoso> ok i think i got it
[03:25] <xoso> how can i find out which ip i've got actually?
[03:25] <mhterres> ifconfig
[03:26] <xoso> ok it works thanx
[03:30] <d>  please ask for me to be unbanned in #ubuntu i swore there 2 days ago...
[03:31] <apricot> how to CHMOD the file to 777?
[03:31] <d> hi can  please ask for me to be unbanned in #ubuntu i swore there 2 days ago...
[03:32] <d> damnit
[03:32] <d> hi can someone  please ask for me to be unbanned in #ubuntu i swore there 2 days ago...
[03:33] <d> hi can someone  please ask for me to be unbanned in #ubuntu i swore there 2 days ago...
[03:33] <d> hi can someone  please ask for me to be unbanned in #ubuntu i swore there 2 days ago...
[03:33] <d> oi
[03:35] <d> wheres the "gnome" menu located?
[03:35] <HymnToLife> who banned you ?
[03:35] <d> is it a txt file somewhere?
[03:36] <d> no idea
[03:36] <d> it just says cannot send to cahnnel; now
[03:36] <HymnToLife> Just PM an op, apologize and you should be OK
[03:36] <d> i was unbanned but not properly..
[03:36] <d> how do i register on freenode?
[03:36] <HymnToLife> !register
[03:36] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:36] <d> i cant pm until i do thats why i came here
[03:36] <d> thanks
[03:37] <d> corrupted my gno9me menu so i came to ask a question...dosent matter because i was going to install kde tonight anyway
[03:39] <HymnToLife> you can still ask it on the forums
[03:41] <_damian-> Um..Whos an op in there?
[03:41] <apricot> how to create a database in mysql, please the command.
[03:41] <xoso> !kde 3.5
[03:41] <ubotu> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php   See also !kde3.5 for how to upgrade
[03:41] <crimsun> _damian-: what's the problem?
[03:42] <xoso> !kde3.5
[03:42] <ubotu> To upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[03:42] <_damian-> can i get the name of an op in #ubuntu need to get myself unbanned
[03:42] <_damian-> apricot: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=mysql+linux+creating+a+database&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[03:42] <crimsun> _damian-: what's the problem?
[03:43] <_damian-> This: * #ubuntu :Cannot send to channel
[03:43] <crimsun> _damian-: you're muzzled.
[03:45] <_damian-> All i done was swear I was unbanned but not properly. I can join I just cant talk. I dont know the name of an op so I cant ask one. None are acually opped..(@)  so I cant find one. I need someone to tell me the name of one so I can ask for myself to be unbanned.
[03:45] <_damian-> got it?
[03:45] <xoso> can i download KDE 3.5 manually and then update it ?
[03:46] <crimsun> _damian-: we don't normally op ourselves unless there's a reason.
[03:46] <_damian-> manually in what format?
[03:47] <_damian-> Crimson can you please unban me
[03:47] <xoso> damian: like tar.gz
[03:47] <crimsun> _damian-: have you reread the code of conduct?
[03:47] <_damian-> yes
[03:49] <zaikxtox> hello. i have installed kubuntu 6.06 beta2 on a spare drive. graphic installer aborts, so i downloaded the debian like text install, which worked fine.
[03:49] <crimsun> _damian-: you had your chance.
[03:50] <zaikxtox> and the graphic package management worked badly , so i have kept back to apt.
[03:50] <_damian-> um sorry..i didnt know i was unbanned and was checking u unbanned me at the exact same time
[03:50] <zaikxtox> but, that apart, all works fine, and my nvidia card was working in almost a minute, and i see a nice progress in the multiarch system
[03:51] <zaikxtox> at least compared with my debian sarge amd64 :)
[03:52] <zaikxtox> now, i have read a lot of howtos on xserver-xgl + compiz-kde, but they are too hacky
[03:52] <zaikxtox> someone knows a good way to make compiz-kde work fine, and system wide?
[03:57] <xoso> how can i restart now KDE ?
[03:58] <xoso> does ist fit when i just logoff an then logon again. is it updated then?
[04:02] <savas> Is there any plan to give static ip support to NetworkManager?
[04:04] <SeanTater> I don't know..
[04:04] <SeanTater> Have you tried #ubuntu?
[04:04] <SeanTater> sorry, that's #ubuntu   it does not have a ? at the end
[04:09] <apricot> where does konqueror download files?
[04:09] <iNiku> on the internet
[04:09] <iNiku> :)
[04:10] <apricot> where does it store downloaded files?
[04:11] <apricot> hello
[04:13] <pradeepto> apricot: hi there
[04:14] <apricot> where does it store downloaded files?
[04:15] <apricot> where does konqueror store downloaded files? I am a stupid blende, please.
[04:16] <pradeepto> apricot: heh , nah its alright , I ask questions worse than that all the time.
[04:16] <pradeepto> apricot: btw konqueror prompts user for download location.
[04:16] <apricot> so, help?
[04:16] <apricot> not me.
[04:17] <pradeepto> apricot: so basically its up to you where you want the file be downloaded.
[04:17] <apricot> it didnt ask me, and i cannot find now my files.
[04:18] <apricot> what is the default downloading directory?
[04:18] <pradeepto> apricot: what did you download?
[04:19] <apricot> files...
[04:20] <apricot> i am pissed of
[04:20] <apricot> the file is 35 MB big.
[04:25] <SeanTater> How many files did you download?
[04:25] <CaNsA> where the adminstator button?
[04:25] <SeanTater> CaNsA: Explain, what dialog?
[04:25] <CaNsA> im trying to setup networking on my fresh install of kubuntu
[04:25] <SeanTater> CaNsA: most times it's in the bottom-left corner..
[04:26] <SeanTater> CaNsA: However, some breezy dialogs are missing that -- it's been fixed in dapper
[04:26] <SeanTater> CaNsA: you can get around that by running kcontrol as root
[04:27] <CaNsA> i get a " click adminstrator mode button to edit these settings
[04:27] <SeanTater> CaNsA: that's what they are supposed to say..
[04:27] <CaNsA> ok
[04:27] <CaNsA> but i cant see it anywhere
[04:27] <SeanTater> CaNsA: press F2 and then type in kcrontrol, and in the advanced settings run it as root with your password.
[04:28] <CaNsA> kk
[04:28] <SeanTater> sorry, not kcrontrol, kcontrol
[04:29] <SeanTater> CaNsA: Oops, let me fix that whole statement, it;s filled with errors
[04:30] <CaNsA> k
[04:30] <pradeepto> heh
[04:30] <pradeepto> Alt+F2 -> type in the text box -> kdesu kcontrol
[04:30] <SeanTater> CaNsA: press ALT-F2 and then type in "kcontrol" (with no quotes), and in the advanced settings in the dialog that comes up for ALT-F2, choose to run it as a different user, root, with your password.
[04:30] <pradeepto> SeanTater: perhaps that ^^^ is what you wanted to say.
[04:31] <SeanTater> pradeepto: yes, I'm just not good at condensing statements..
[04:31] <pradeepto> SeanTater: lol
[04:32] <pradeepto> SeanTater: but your was much better explaination I guess :)
[04:32] <apricot> SO, WHAT IS THE DEFAULT DOWNLOADING DIRECTORY IN KONQUEROR?
[04:32] <SeanTater> apricot: DO NOT SHOUT!!
[04:33] <CaNsA> cheers SeanTater
[04:33] <SeanTater> apricot: there is no default downloading directory for konqueror.
[04:33] <CaNsA> i got a usb optical mouse that is really sluggish
[04:33] <apricot> no, and where are my files then?
[04:33] <zmo> apricot: try to find your file using Find Files in your KDE menu
[04:33] <SeanTater> apricot: But I see your situation, so look in ~/.kde and in /tmp.
[04:33] <pradeepto> CaNsA: btw you could use Alt+M
[04:33] <zmo> apricot: or open a konsole and type find / -name *filename*
[04:34] <SeanTater> apricot: the names may be odd though
[04:34] <pradeepto> CaNsA: to enter into Administator mode incase yuo forgot to do so while running the application.
[04:34] <SeanTater> apricot: BTW: Kio always displays the destination area.. just look at the dialog..
[04:34] <pradeepto> apricot: if you have kerry, it might be easier to find the file.
[04:40] <CaNsA> when setting up network, under the advance options does "broadcast" be the ip of my router?
[04:40] <apricot> why konqueror downloads automaticaly and don't ask me for destination.
[04:41] <pradeepto> apricot: hmmm it does actually, I tested it again just now.
[04:41] <genio> join #kubuntu-es
[04:41] <Kubunatico> #join
[04:41] <Kubunatico> #ubuntu-es
[04:42] <apricot> my not
[04:42] <apricot> how to reinstall fot good konqueror?
[04:42] <famille> #join
[04:42] <anir> whats new in kubuntu june release??
[04:42] <apricot> how to install kerry
[04:43] <pradeepto> apricot: I presume you are using Dapper/Breezy?
[04:44] <shanky> to upgrade form brezzy to dapper I just need to change brezzy
[04:44] <apricot> breezy
[04:44] <shanky> to upgrade form brezzy to dapper I just need to change "brezzy" to "dapper" in my /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:44] <pradeepto> shanky: there is document just for that on the k/ubuntu site.
[04:45] <pradeepto> apricot: so use adept to install kerry.
[04:45] <HymnToLife> !upgrade
[04:45] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[04:46] <pradeepto> thanks HymnToLife :)
[04:46] <apricot> i cannot find kerry
[04:46] <apricot> in adept
[04:46] <pradeepto> apricot: btw did you try what zmo told you to do?
[04:46] <apricot> yes
[04:47] <pradeepto> and ...
[04:47] <apricot> nothing
[04:47] <apricot> at all
[04:47] <humbolt> I am getting this: Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/Packages.gz  Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection
[04:47] <apricot> maybe kerry would help, but no kerry in adept
[04:48] <humbolt> but when I wget the file I have no problem whatsoever
[04:48] <humbolt> kerry sucks!
[04:48] <humbolt> kerry is slow like my gandmother
[04:48] <humbolt> slower even
[04:48] <bert> kerry works OK
[04:48] <humbolt> much worse than its gnome counterpart!
[04:48] <apricot> any better
[04:48] <humbolt> it is slow!
[04:49] <humbolt> and I would love to know why!
[04:50] <humbolt> anyhow, back to my question: I have "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" in my sources list, but get the error message above. why?
[04:50] <bert> get your computer working properly, my kerry find what I am looking for in a flash
[04:50] <apricot> WHY CANNOT I FIND KERRY IN ADEPT?
[04:50] <zmo> apricot: no shouting please
[04:51] <humbolt> I can't believe it is not working properly! I just installed kubuntu dapper from scratch!
[04:51] <HymnToLife> !caps
[04:51] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[04:51] <pradeepto> humbolt: kerry works like a charm on my box.
[04:51] <pradeepto> I have dapper f5 from *scratch*
[04:51] <zmo> apricot: all your files are belong to us :)
[04:51] <humbolt> not on mine!
[04:51] <pradeepto> apricot: I found kerry in adept.
[04:52] <humbolt> what could be the reason?
[04:52] <pradeepto> for what?
[04:52] <bert> I can see kerry in adept, have you got the universe repository enabled?
[04:52] <humbolt> pradeepto: for either my kerry problem or my wine apt problem
[04:53] <pradeepto> hmmm
[04:53] <pradeepto> apricot: you have enabled universe haven't you?
[04:53] <pradeepto> bert: beaten :P
[04:54] <humbolt> I have some wierd things going on. for once my kmail freezes every one in a while, when I am typing an email but does record all my keystrokes "in the dark"
[04:54] <savas_> well,updated kde packages  and Turkish translations have gone away?it looks semi translated now
[04:54] <savas_> what can i do?
[04:55] <apricot> i think i am, in case i didn't, how to do that?
[04:55] <jonny> Hi Leute
[04:55] <CaNsA> SeanTater, dude u still there ? if yeah can u pm me plz
[04:56] <jonny> oh sry, eng chan
[04:56] <SeanTater> CaNsA: I'm here, just busy..
[04:56] <CaNsA> k
[04:56] <humbolt> savas_: find all kde i18n turkish packages and install them
[04:56] <hetauma> hi
[04:58] <hetauma> can some1 tell me if there are many more packages included in dvd or it would be preety fine to download to install cd and then download everything needed with synaptic ?
[04:58] <CaNsA> my network wont do what its supposed to do, im in kcontrol, i select "network sttings" then click "administration mode" and it reverts back to what looks like, the default info screen
[04:58] <savas_> humbolt:it looks that everything about Turkish are installed.Have to wait for that?
[04:59] <pradeepto> hetauma: there are mor packages in dvd but installation from cd and then updating/installing should do fine too.
[05:00] <pradeepto> apricot: Start Adept -> Click on Adept ( top Menu) -> Manage Repositories
[05:00] <cc-dash> humbolt: do you have antispam or antivirus rules defined in kmail?
[05:00] <pradeepto> apricot: what do you see in this window? Is universe enabled?
[05:01] <hetauma> pradeepto but CD has all the major packages like KDE OpenOffice right ?
[05:02] <pradeepto> hetauma: CD has OO.o but not KOffice (which is a shame btw).
[05:02] <pradeepto> hetauma: you can always get the latest KOffice using adept or apt-get which ever you prefer.
[05:02] <pradeepto> apricot: are you still on?
[05:05] <hetauma> adept is synaptic for kde ?
[05:05] <apricot> here i am
[05:06] <apricot> pradeepto what universe, where is that?
[05:06] <pradeepto> apricot: did you even do what told you to do?
[05:06] <bert> synaptic uses apt
[05:07] <apricot> off course
[05:07] <apricot> universe main restricted multiverse
[05:07] <pradeepto> apricot: do you NOT see "universe" some where written among all those lines
[05:07] <pradeepto> yes that
[05:08] <pradeepto> apricot: is that commented?
[05:08] <apricot> i see it 3 times
[05:08] <apricot> black
[05:10] <pradeepto> apricot: what happens when you Right Click on those lines? What do you see in the context menu?
[05:11] <apricot> i see, i see ... disable!
[05:11] <pradeepto> dont disable it
[05:11] <apricot> ok, got that
[05:11] <apricot> then
[05:11] <apricot> what
[05:11] <pradeepto> enable it if it is not.
[05:12] <Ohnoes>  [Slashdot]  BlueSecurity Database Compromised? (it) - http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/02/1326228
[05:12] <apricot> they are enabled
[05:12] <pradeepto> apricot: then do a "fetch update"
[05:12] <pradeepto> apricot: Click on the big button on the top left below the top menubar
[05:12] <pradeepto> "Fetch Updates"
[05:13] <humbolt> cc-dash: bogofilter, I thought about that. Sucks! Why does that have to block me writing emails! Kmail needs improvement. Have to file some bugs.
[05:13] <ep> I downloaded a couple of midi files, kmid etal appears to play them but I don't get sound.  Why would this happen?
[05:13] <apricot> i have done that 3 times today
[05:15] <pradeepto> apricot: sorry kerry is not available for Breezy :(
[05:23] <n3storm> ep: can you hear any music at all?
[05:23] <n3storm> any sounds?
[05:23] <ep> yes sounds everywhere else :)
[05:24] <n3storm> go to kde control panel
[05:24] <n3storm> system settings
[05:24] <ep> right
[05:24] <n3storm> then go to sounds
[05:24] <n3storm> you have a button there: TEST MIDI
[05:24] <ep> yes
[05:25] <ep> it appears to do nothing when i click it
[05:25] <n3storm> then you can't hear midi
[05:25] <n3storm> with other kde apps
[05:26] <ep> why's this?
[05:26] <n3storm> I'm not expert, but I think midi needs a special sound card
[05:26] <n3storm> not every soundcard can pay midi
[05:27] <n3storm> at sound system, go to the hardware tab, ep
[05:27] <ep> i've got a soundblaster live -- it should play it.  However I just installed it to replace my onboard sound last week
[05:27] <ctothej> i read on a forum that there are problems with plugins for web browers (like flash) in the 64 bit versions. Has this been fixed?
[05:28] <ep> The onboad AC97 sound would not do mixing, the soundblaster works great
[05:28] <n3storm> ctothej: as long as macromedia releases 64bit versions for linux of their plugins, it will be fixed
[05:28] <n3storm> ep, can you see at the hardware tab, the "select midi device"
[05:29] <ctothej> n3storm: can firefox run in 386 mode?
[05:29] <n3storm> I don't know
[05:29] <n3storm> what does it mean?
[05:29] <ep> n3storm: yes, i think i need to change it to the sound blaster theres alot of choices listed
[05:29] <ep> i'm not sure which to pick
[05:29] <n3storm> the plugin doesn't have nothing to see with the browser, in this case
[05:29] <n3storm> ep: try them all!
[05:29] <n3storm> XDD
[05:30] <ep> :_0
[05:30] <n3storm> then go back to test
[05:30] <ep> roger
[05:30] <n3storm> if you hear something
[05:30] <n3storm> ...
[05:30] <n3storm> midi output?
[05:30] <ctothej> n3storm: my question then: can I use the 32bit plugins to view flash and whatnot on the internet with kubuntu 64 bit?
[05:30] <n3storm> something like "out"
[05:31] <gringo> hi there
[05:32] <n3storm> ctothej: I don't know
[05:32] <gringo> anyone knows how to turn off KDE Wallet?
[05:32] <n3storm> sorry
[05:32] <ctothej> its ok, thx
[05:32] <n3storm> gringo: yes
[05:33] <n3storm> can you see the small icon in the systray?
[05:33] <n3storm> right-click and choos configure "kwalletmanager"
[05:33] <n3storm> then uncheck "Activate Kde wallet subsystem" and Accept
[05:33] <n3storm> XD
[05:34] <gringo> n3storm: ^^ thank you. didn't think that it is as easy. I've looked thru all those config files as i am new to linux
[05:35] <n3storm> gringo: linux is easy, take it easy and you will see how easy!
[05:35] <n3storm> XD
[05:36] <gringo> finally my WPA-Wifi (nearly) works, so I can enjoy my redmond-less notebook :D
[05:37] <gringo> what is better? koepete or gaim? i have been using Miranda IM
[05:38] <n3storm> I like psi, gringo
[05:38] <gringo> psi, never heard... will check it
[05:38] <n3storm> ;)
[05:38] <cc-dash> humbolt: this problem appears when kmail is looking for new mails and you are writing a new one?
[05:39] <humbolt> cc-dash: yes
[05:39] <whyM> Hi there, I have a severe issue since saturday... whenever I install kubuntu (6.06 beta2) and do an apt-get update / apt-get upgrade, I am not able to reboot anymore -> The booting process hangs on "Saving VESA state". Anyone could tell me what's going on and what I can do to fix it?
[05:39] <gringo> n3storm: oh psi seems to be jabber only... I need: ICQ,MSN,JABBER,IRC
[05:40] <n3storm> gringo: ok
[05:42] <gringo> btw i don't get my mp3's running :( I already tried to install this ...-ugly pakets
[05:43] <apokryphos> gringo: kubuntu.org -> faq
[05:46] <whyM>  :'(
[05:48] <n3storm> whyM: are you doing apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:49] <Cin> If I added amaroK1.4-beta to my repos. and tried it out, but then it started messing up and I want to _remove_ it from synaptic and just revert to 1.3.8, is there a way to do that?
[05:49] <whyM> I tried with or without dist-upgrade and the result is the same...
[05:50] <n3storm> do apt-get remove xserver-xorg-driver-vesa
[05:50] <n3storm> whyM: it will uninstall loads of stuff
[05:50] <n3storm> after everything is upgraded do not install Xorg
[05:51] <psyke83> whyM: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-vesa=version (and put the version you want there), does that work?
[05:51] <whyM> psyke83: didn't try... how do I know which version?
[05:52] <whyM> In fact I use nv, not vesa in my xorg.conf...
[05:52] <psyke83> that's not the problem then...
[05:52] <psyke83> try passing vga=0x311 to your kernel at boot, or use sysv-rc-conf, and disable vbesave as a startup item
[05:52] <Cin> O.0
[05:53] <psyke83> the latter is more likely to work
[05:53] <whyM> What should it do?
[05:54] <psyke83> just a sec
[05:57] <psyke83> whyM: enable the universe repo, then: sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[05:58] <whyM> psyke83: I'm gonna try this... thanks - It's very strange since I used the very same install CD on the same computer last week and it worked well... it must be related to some of saturday's updates...
[05:58] <psyke83> then start it up with: sudo sysv-rc-conf, navigate to the vbesave entry, and disable it on all runlevels (uncheck the X's on that line)
[05:59] <psyke83> whyM: you should read this thread - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168639&highlight=saving+vesa
[05:59] <psyke83> that's probably a better solution that what I advised just there
[05:59] <psyke83> *than
[06:00] <whyM> Thanks, I didn't find it last time I checked ;)
[06:00] <psyke83> this is it: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-April/017581.html
[06:00] <psyke83> no prob :)
[06:02] <whyM> It seems to be exactly it. gonna try and mail my /tmp/system_info to Matthew Garrett.
[06:07] <apricot> gnome is good for your theets
[06:08] <Dasnipa`> teets?
[06:09] <apricot> tooths
[06:09] <Dasnipa`> apricot, you make no sense
[06:09] <Dasnipa`> gnome smells...
[06:09] <apricot> teeths
[06:09] <Dasnipa`> apricot, still doesnt make sense...
[06:10] <apricot> i cannot save bookmarks in konqueror
[06:12] <apricot> i cannot save bookmarks in konqueror
[06:12] <apricot> i cannot save bookmarks in konqueror
[06:14] <HymnToLife> !repeat
[06:14] <ubotu> repeat is probably Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[06:15] <apricot> how to completely remove konqueror
[06:26] <milian> is there a tutorial / application for adding programs to the context menu (right click) ?
[06:26] <milian> I'm missing some
[06:27] <n3storm> milian: you have to look in google for "kde service menu"
[06:27] <milian> thanks for the hint, I'll try that
[06:28] <v3ctor> i have recently seen that howto
[06:30] <dbakker> i cant add a printer with kaddprinterwizard with an error.
[06:31] <dbakker> it get a glibc double free error and a parser error complaining about line 2058 has extra content at the end
[06:40] <apricot> how to see processes which are running?
[06:40] <fatmike> ps aux
[06:41] <kozz> ctrl + esc :)
[06:41] <apricot> thank you
[06:41] <DuDReNoV> is there a program similar to adept but for a shell with kubuntu?
[06:43] <kozz> apt-get, sort of
[06:43] <kozz> and other apt-* applications
[06:43] <DuDReNoV> no there was something like adept for shell where u cna browse troug hthe packages
[06:44] <kozz> aptitude?
[06:44] <DuDReNoV> that's it
[06:46] <milian> n3storm: I was missing the konq-plugins package, that fixed my problems. thanks again for the hint
[06:48] <dbakker> are there any env settings to debug kde apps?
[06:55] <dbakker> it get a glibc double free error and a parser error complaining about line 2058 has extra content at the end
[06:55] <dbakker> is there anyway to debug kdeaddprinterwizard?
[06:56] <MEtaLpREs> why isnt mplayer available in apt?  i thought it was on there not long ago
[06:58] <djk_> MEtaLpREs: what a childish name. mplayer is in multiverse.. enable it.
[07:01] <CaNsA> how do i edit my /etc/network/interfaces file?
[07:02] <TheFuzzball> how do I set up a nested Xorg session on top of my usual one?
[07:03] <gringo> CaNsA: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[07:04] <CaNsA> cheers
[07:04] <MEtaLpREs> i have all the repositories enabled and its still no coming up
[07:04] <MEtaLpREs> childish name?
[07:05] <gringo> MEtaLpREs: it _is_ there ;)
[07:08] <MEtaLpREs> well my install is all messed up then
[07:08] <TheFuzzball> #!/bin/sh
[07:08] <TheFuzzball> unset SESSION_MANAGER
[07:08] <TheFuzzball> gnome-window-decorator &
[07:08] <TheFuzzball> gnome-settings-daemon &
[07:08] <TheFuzzball> gnome-session
[07:08] <TheFuzzball> does that look alrite?
[07:09] <djk_> MEtaLpREs: mplayer-386 or -586.. or -686 or -k6 or -k7 or just use adept.. or apt-cache search ..
[07:14] <gringo> MEtaLpREs: did you activate *multiverse* not universe...
[07:17] <MEtaLpREs> i had every repository enabled, there is 17340 available packages....
[07:19] <djk_> MEtaLpREs: pastebin your sources.list
[07:20] <MEtaLpREs> i just generated a new one from that ubuntu sources.list generator thing i think its all set now
[07:27] <_pedro> Hi!
[07:27] <_pedro> What language does it talks here?
[07:27] <_pedro> english?
[07:28] <djk_> yes
[07:28] <_pedro> ok
[07:28] <_pedro> i was not sure
[07:28] <_pedro> Well
[07:29] <_pedro> Firstly I would like to congratulate people that works on Kubuntu
[07:29] <_pedro> I installed recently and it is great
[07:30] <_pedro> I would like to solve a litle problem
[07:30] <djk_> but you have a problem...
[07:30] <djk_> of course..
[07:30] <_pedro> It is not a big thing
[07:30] <_pedro> I have 3 partitions on my hard drive
[07:30] <drbreen> hello
[07:31] <_pedro> one of them=ntfs=Windows xp
[07:31] <_pedro> I mount it without problem, and I added the line to /etc/fstab
[07:31] <drbreen> i have an important question: how can i disable automounting of (say... usb) devices ?
[07:31] <_pedro> but there is a directory I cannot see
[07:32] <mlivneh> drbreen: man fstab
[07:32] <_pedro> the reason I think it is because the name of the directory include the caracter ""
[07:32] <drbreen> !thx
[07:32] <ubotu> drbreen: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:32] <_pedro> what can I do?
[07:32] <mlivneh> hi. i set up my wlan card ok, but i have to dhclient manually through the shell to get an ip. i figure i go to "Network Settings" to fix that, but there are 2 probs: (1) the "administrator" button is below the visible window, and i can't get to it since the window is too big. the only way i can get to it is if i make the window full-screen. (2) granting admin rights does nothing -- it simply reverts back to the gr
[07:32] <mlivneh> right password).
[07:33] <Broxtor> I'm having some issues with sound of my tv card in Kubuntu Dapper, using kdetv. I only get noise. No normal sound.
[07:33] <drbreen> i have an important question: how can i disable automounting of (say... usb) devices ? not at boot, but when they are plugged in...
[07:33] <TheFuzzball> I've messed up my /tmp dir, how do I chown it to all users?
[07:34] <drbreen> man fstab does not say
[07:34] <drbreen> i think
[07:34] <mlivneh> drbreen: i think you need to add "noauto" to the mount options
[07:35] <gemidjy> I followed Guide for installing XGl under Kubuntu, after I execute: Xgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel xv -accel glx:pbuffer & DISPLAY=:0 xterm
[07:35] <Broxtor> the sound output of the tv card is connected to the line in of the sound card.
[07:35] <gemidjy> I get this:
[07:35] <gemidjy> Fatal server error:
[07:35] <gemidjy> could not open default cursor font 'cursor'
[07:35] <_pedro> mmm
[07:35] <drbreen> noauto: do not mount when "mount -a" is given, e.g., at boot time
[07:35] <Broxtor> Changing the slider of Kmix does put the volume up and down, but it's only noise.
[07:35] <_pedro> any sugestion for my dude?
[07:35] <Broxtor> I had this working in previous versions.
[07:35] <drbreen> mlivneh: noauto does not prevent the pmount wrapper ?!
[07:36] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[07:36] <DarkWizzard> need some help
[07:36] <DarkWizzard> I have a big problem with opengl
[07:36] <DarkWizzard> I made a full system upgrade
[07:36] <DarkWizzard> and since then the games don't work
[07:37] <DarkWizzard> everithings very slow
[07:37] <DarkWizzard> I had fglrx from ati installed
[07:37] <DarkWizzard> and when I go to the control pad
[07:37] <Broxtor> DarkWizzard: Is your xorg.conf still ok?
[07:37] <DarkWizzard> I see that my video accelerator card is not detected
[07:37] <DarkWizzard> vell I done some reconfiguring
[07:37] <DarkWizzard> should I pastebin it ?
[07:38] <Broxtor> DarkWizzard: is the correct driver loaded?
[07:38] <DarkWizzard> have no idea
[07:38] <DarkWizzard> kde works
[07:38] <DarkWizzard> and x
[07:38] <DarkWizzard> but the games
[07:38] <DarkWizzard> no 3d accelerating
[07:38] <Broxtor> DarkWizzard: I mean, does your xorg.conf mention the correct driver?
[07:39] <DarkWizzard> I think
[07:39] <DarkWizzard> see for yourself
[07:39] <DarkWizzard> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/694532
[07:39] <TheFuzzball> how do I change the language of just one user?
[07:39] <Blissex> TheFuzzball: send them to language school :-)
[07:39] <DarkWizzard> :)
[07:40] <drbreen> mlivneh: but when i plug in an usb stick it can have nearly any number and combination of partitions. so do i have do create and /etc/fstab entry for each and everyone of them
[07:40] <drbreen> ???
[07:42] <drbreen> !automounter
[07:42] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, drbreen
[07:42] <drbreen> !automount
[07:42] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, drbreen
[07:42] <_cansa> i have a 5 button mouse, how can i configure this?
[07:42] <SuperNova> hi! im about to install kubuntu for the first time... which choise shlould i choose when i install: standard (press enter) or advance? Its abolute critical that i can control which partition on which harddrive im going to use
[07:44] <Broxtor> DarkWizzard: I think the driver mentioned is the wrong one. I think it should say fgrlx. But I'm not sure, because I use a Nvidia card.
[07:44] <DarkWizzard> I have an old copy of xorg.conf
[07:44] <SuperNova> doesnt anyone know?
[07:44] <DarkWizzard> from the time when it worked
[07:44] <_cansa> any ideas?
[07:44] <DarkWizzard> I'll try to over write it
[07:44] <rraajj> SuperNova: Standard install can do that. :)
[07:44] <DarkWizzard> and if it doesn't work i'll be back
[07:44] <DarkWizzard> thx
[07:45] <Broxtor> DarkWizzard: First check what driver it mentiones
[07:45] <SuperNova> rraajj, how doest it work to repart one NTFS partition to swap + main (ext3) ?
[07:45] <rraajj> SuperNova: Hmm. You're going to erase the NTFS partition and rewrite it as ext3 + swap?
[07:46] <SuperNova> i mean do i just choose the partition i want to use and then the kubuntu install partitionises it to swap + main?
[07:46] <rraajj> SuperNova: Seems fine. I don't see any problem with that.
[07:46] <SuperNova> rraajj, yes
[07:46] <rraajj> SuperNova: Err, you _can_ do that.
[07:46] <rraajj> SuperNova: Standard install also has control over the partitioning.
[07:47] <SuperNova> rraajj, the part im going to delete is a primary... will any data om my extended (logical) partitions be affected/damaged?
[07:47] <rraajj> SuperNova: You can either auto-partition OR manually erase, resize and rewrite the partition table.
[07:47] <rraajj> SuperNova: Nope. I don't think so.
[07:47] <SuperNova> rraajj, all in the standard install?
[07:47] <rraajj> SuperNova: Yes. :)
[07:48] <SuperNova> sorry if my questions seem dumd/i ask them multipl times but i cant loose the data on the otherpartitions....
[07:48] <DarkWizzard> well nope
[07:48] <SuperNova> whats the main difference between advance and standard?
[07:48] <DarkWizzard> the problem isn't in xorg.conf
[07:48] <rraajj> SuperNova: Hehe. No problem with that. Everyone needs to be 100% sure at times. :)
[07:49] <DarkWizzard> when i run fireglcontrol
[07:49] <DarkWizzard> I get a message
[07:49] <rraajj> SuperNova: The advanced, or expert, install is for computers that need a little more tweaking.
[07:49] <DarkWizzard> "Driver does not provide the Fire GL X11 extensions!"
[07:49] <DarkWizzard> but like i said everithing worked before the update
[07:50] <rraajj> SuperNova: You have control over which packages will be installed in expert.
[07:50] <Tonio_> yo
[07:50] <SuperNova> rraajj, okey, standard will be fine then :p
[07:50] <rraajj> SuperNova: Yes. Actually, expert install is not really recommended unless it is really needed.
[07:50] <SuperNova> btw im goint to dualboot but what will hapend when i reformat my winpart for example? will i have to reinstall grub on that drive then?
[07:51] <rraajj> SuperNova: The system might not work as expected unlike if the installation was uninterrupted.
[07:51] <DarkWizzard> yes
[07:51] <DarkWizzard> windows will overwrite it
[07:51] <rraajj> SuperNova: Yes. K/Ubuntu install will take care of that for you, don't worry. :D
[07:51] <rraajj> Oh, wait.
[07:51] <DarkWizzard> and you will have to restori ti
[07:51] <SuperNova> how do i reinstall grub?.....
[07:51] <DarkWizzard> it
[07:51] <rraajj> I think I misunderstood the question.
[07:51] <DarkWizzard> there is a command
[07:52] <DarkWizzard> in repair mode
[07:52] <DarkWizzard> from the install cd
[07:52] <rraajj> Are you saying you are going to install Windows after installing Ubuntu?
[07:52] <SuperNova> rraajj, win will still be my primary OS but what will hapend when i reinstall win?..... i have heard that grub is installed on the main os drive, as such it will be removed when i reformat and reinstalles win
[07:53] <Broxtor> SuperNova: You can boot with install cd into rescue mode. Then when you're logged in you can use grub-install /dev/hdx to reinstall grub.
[07:53] <Dasnipa`> dual boots will usually want to install windows first... it doesnt like to play well with others
[07:53] <Broxtor> SuperNova: hdx is the drive grub should be installed on.
[07:53] <SuperNova> Broxtor, okey.. i head that i had to use a floppy 8i dont have a floppy drive in this rig)..
[07:53] <rraajj> SuperNova: OR, you can install Windows first BEFORE Kubuntu, that way you won't have to deal with the rescue mode.
[07:53] <drbreen> windows is evil and kills master boot record grr
[07:54] <SuperNova> i have to reinstall win quiet often since im working with system drivers....
[07:54] <Broxtor> SuperNova: indeed, when you install windblows first, there's no problem at all
[07:54] <DarkWizzard> SuperNova: it won't be a big deal restoring grub
[07:54] <SuperNova> okey great to hear
[07:54] <SuperNova> off to install!
[07:54] <SuperNova> thank you all!
[07:54] <DarkWizzard> good luck
[07:54] <DarkWizzard> :)
[07:55] <TheFuzzball> how do I chown /tmp for all users?
[07:55] <DarkWizzard> does anyone have some ideea what should i do to make my video card detected ?
[07:56] <SeanTater>  I used the beta easyubuntu on Kubuntu dapper beta 2, I tried "sudo aptitude install python-gtk2 python-glade2 synaptic", but nothing changed. I get http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/694525 every time I run "sudo python easyubuntu.py". can anyone help?
[07:56] <rraajj> TheFuzzball: /tmp only, or everything else inside it?
[07:56] <DarkWizzard> or where can i get the FireGL X11 extensions ?
[07:57] <rraajj> SeanTater: Tried "sudo apt-get install blahblah" yet?
[07:58] <SeanTater> rraajj: yes, to no avail
[07:58] <TheFuzzball> ok, let me rephrase, how do I chown /tmp all users and everything else inside it :)
[07:59] <SeanTater> TheFuzzball: Warning: chowning /tmp is NOT a good idea!
[07:59] <SeanTater> TheFuzzball: You could A: cook your machine B: be locked out of your machine C: leave yourself open to hackers
[08:00] <rraajj> TheFuzzball: In any case, sudo chown -r :users /tmp/
[08:00] <TheFuzzball> thanks
[08:00] <rraajj> TheFuzzball: Where :users is the group where all the users are.
[08:01] <chavo> /tmp should be owned by root
[08:02] <chavo> then chmod 1777
[08:02] <SeanTater> chavo: that would be option C.
[08:03] <rraajj> chavo: He was given a warning, anyway. Maybe he really needs to do something. :)
[08:03] <TheFuzzball> okay, what would you do if you accidentally deleted /tmp when you should have deleted ./tmp in my home dir, so I had to run sudo mkdir /tmp, but I had to run sudo chown luke /tmp to make it work
[08:04] <gringo> hmmm
[08:04] <chavo> TheFuzzball, leave the owner as root and then chmod 1777 /tmp. this will allow you to create files in there and only the creator of the files or root can modify them
[08:04] <TheFuzzball> ok
[08:04] <rraajj> chavo: Good idea. :)
[08:05] <TheFuzzball> ok, all fixed now
[08:06] <TheFuzzball> ok, all fixed now
[08:06] <gringo> anybody has an idea why my kubuntu uses 1.2 Gb Physical Memory... that's awful
[08:07] <gringo> and swap is empty xD
[08:09] <_ismael> How can I do  that windows key open k menu?
[08:11] <rraajj> _ismael: Have you tried tinkering with the Regional & Accessibility menu in System Settings?
[08:12] <rraajj> I think there's a Windows keyboard shortcut scheme in the Keyboard Shortcuts menu.
[08:19] <TheFuzzball> how do I delete a user?
[08:20] <rockin_stan> TheFuzzball: userdel
[08:20] <_thumper_> I'm in dire need of help
[08:20] <TheFuzzball> luke@ringo:~$ sudo deluser guest
[08:20] <TheFuzzball> /usr/sbin/deluser: The user `guest' does not exist.
[08:20] <TheFuzzball> luke@ringo:~$ sudo adduser guest
[08:20] <TheFuzzball> adduser: The group `guest' already exists.
[08:20] <TheFuzzball> luke@ringo:~$
[08:21] <_thumper_> I was doing a dist-upgrade this morning
[08:21] <_thumper_> when we had a fuse blow and the machine got turned off
[08:21] <_thumper_> now it isn't in much of a fit state
[08:21] <_thumper_> It sort of started initially, but then dropped to a text login
[08:21] <TheFuzzball> re-install
[08:21] <_thumper_> I then did a "dpkg --configure -a" like it suggested
[08:22] <_thumper_> but now - no internet connection
[08:22] <_thumper_> now trying safe mode start as the other didn't
[08:22] <TheFuzzball> how are you on IRC then?
[08:22] <_thumper_> other computer :)
[08:22] <TheFuzzball> lol
[08:23] <_thumper_> windows though so had to hunt for an irc client
[08:23] <TheFuzzball> I think you should re-install kubuntu
[08:23] <TheFuzzball> but I'm no dev
[08:23] <_thumper_> One of the reasons I was doing a dist-upgrade is that I didn't want to re-install
[08:23] <_thumper_> hang 10 - got to go and get daughter out of the bath :-|
[08:24] <TheFuzzball> lol, don't have very much choice now do you?
[08:24] <TheFuzzball> emm
[08:27] <_thumper_> sure I do - just need to get the network card up
[08:27] <_thumper_> then another upgrade sequence
[08:28] <_thumper_> damn, off to get the kids into bed...
[08:32] <wasp_ems> hi does anyone know how i can make all my windows transparent?
[08:32] <TheFuzzball> run kcontrol
[08:32] <TheFuzzball> its in behaviour I think
[08:33] <wasp_ems> ok thanx
[08:33] <TheFuzzball> ok, its in Desktop> Window Behavious> Translucency
[08:34] <TheFuzzball> Behaviour*
[08:34] <wasp_ems> ok thanx
[08:36] <wasp_ems> it does not work
[08:36] <wasp_ems> do i have to go out of the session and back in for it to take effect?
[08:40] <supernova> rraajj: im in kubuntu now :p
[08:41] <supernova> second problem how do i install the raphic driver? 1024 @ 60Hz ... :/
[08:41] <rraajj> supernova: Lol! Good for you.
[08:41] <supernova> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300
[08:41] <supernova> found that page (ati) but i dont understand the difference between xfree and xorg?
[08:42] <rraajj> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[08:42] <rraajj> Oh, that was for you, supernova. :)
[08:43] <supernova> rraajj: in my link which should i choose
[08:43] <rraajj> supernova: Follow the steps for Ubuntu to get it up and running.
[08:44] <supernova> rraajj: dont se that either :p
[08:45] <rraajj> Hmm?
[08:45] <rraajj> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
[08:45] <rraajj> Or Dapper, if you have Dapper.
[08:47] <supernova> rraajj: strange that i cant have any resolution higher than 1024
[08:47] <rraajj> supernova: Yeah, me neither.
[08:47] <rraajj> Even after I reconfigure my xserver-xorg.
[08:47] <rraajj> Tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" yet?
[08:47] <supernova> rraajj: on the ati page i can donwload xorg and xfree drivers which sould i get?
[08:48] <supernova> download
[08:49] <rraajj> supernova:  xorg drivers, I suppose.
[08:49] <supernova> whats the diffrence?
[08:49] <ctothej> NOTICE: All of those with Dual PCI-E Motherboards and ATI Graphics Cards, read: http://www.phoronix.com/?page=news_item&px=MzM5
[08:50] <ctothej> Took me hours to figure this out
[08:51] <rraajj> supernova: I don't think I have a clue. :(
[08:53] <supernova> rraajj: how do i install the .rpm file?
[08:54] <rraajj> supernova: That's not really that recommended. I'd suggest you read on the link I gave you. :)
[08:54] <rraajj> ... which is in here. http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
[08:59] <n3storm> bye bye
[09:02] <gringo> anybody has an idea why my kubuntu uses 1.2 Gb Physical Memory... that's awful
[09:02] <gringo> ?
[09:04] <chowells> caching most likely
[09:05] <Huahua_> grimse: don't worry, most is caching
[09:05] <NoUse> gringo yeah its probably cached which doesn't mean its actually used , run 'free -m' to see the break down
[09:06] <ctothej> suprnova: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[09:08] <gringo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13296 <-- is this allright? :/ i don't know
[09:09] <Huahua_> grimse:  used - cached = your actually used
[09:10] <Huahua_> gringo: 1180 - 872 = 308
[09:10] <gringo> Huahua_: :D k now I can sleep well
[09:10] <Huahua_> :-)
[09:14] <mlivneh> hey, the "administrator mode" button in system setting applets is non-functional (that is, it brings up a passwod propmpt, but typing in the password doesn't change anything). i've read around and it seems to be a recognized problem. any known workarounds?
[09:16] <gringo> is there a winamp like audio player including ipod support?
[09:16] <vanhammersly> i'm using amarok
[09:16] <Huahua_> mlehrer: type your passwd , if passwd right , the gray part will be come available
[09:17] <Huahua_> grimse: amarok is well
[09:17] <gringo> gringo not grimse ^^ but thx, i took a look at amarok
[09:18] <vanhammersly> 1.4 beta 3 works for me w/ ipod
[09:18] <vanhammersly> music, etc.
[09:18] <Huahua_> I'm sorry, gringo :)
[09:19] <grimse> gringo, thx ;)
[09:20] <gringo> Huahua_ and vanhammersly; could you tell me how i can change the skin of amarok. i mean the skin of the player, not of the playlist
[09:21] <Huahua_> I'm not sure , I'm use the  default.
[09:21] <vanhammersly> same
[09:22] <vanhammersly> sorry
[09:22] <gringo> its some kind of ugly xD
[09:23] <vanhammersly> yeah.
[09:23] <vanhammersly> i agree
[09:23] <vanhammersly> never thought of it until now
[09:28] <tonia> lk
[09:29] <tonia> does anyone knows how to run xmule
[09:29] <tonia> ?
[09:29] <supernova> hi why cant i use resolutions over 1024 in kubuntu?
[09:29] <tonia> supernova
[09:29] <tonia> ?
[09:30] <Huahua_> tonia: I use amule
[09:30] <mhterres> supernova: I think it's something with your vidro driver
[09:30] <mhterres> oops
[09:30] <mhterres> video driver
[09:30] <Huahua_> amule work finely
[09:30] <tonia> it says my vrsion is to old
[09:30] <supernova> i installed the Ati driver and now i got Ati control in my menu but i cant get it to open
[09:30] <tonia> version
[09:31] <mhterres> tonia: download aMule 2.1.1
[09:31] <supernova> i choose 1280 under the install..... but isnt available now
[09:31] <tonia> i used the synaptic package manager
[09:31] <tonia> to install it
[09:31] <_thumper_> fresh install of dapper, reusing home from breezy, the kicker won't let me move stuff around anymore!
[09:32] <tonia> i am new in linux
[09:32] <tonia> and i am confused
[09:33] <tonia> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[09:33] <mhterres> tonia: did you try sudo apt-get install amule ???
[09:33] <tonia> no
[09:34] <mhterres> try it :-)
[09:34] <tonia> i getting confused as i said with the console
[09:34] <tonia> so i use package manager
[09:34] <mhterres> tonia: what's your doubt ?
[09:35] <tonia> well I can use computers very well but I am not a programmer
[09:35] <tonia> so I do everything I see from the forums
[09:36] <Huahua_> tonia: use synaptic package manager to install a amule
[09:36] <tonia> I will
[09:36] <_thumper_> hello kicker specialists...
[09:36] <_thumper_> anyone there?
[09:36] <Tonio_> Huahua_: why not adept ? :)
[09:37] <tonia> I am confused with the console
[09:37] <Huahua_> tonia: or use adept
[09:37] <supernova> please what can i do to fix my problem.. used sudo alien to install the Ati driver but still no success
[09:38] <tonia> is there any difference if I use the package manager?
[09:38] <Tonio_> supernova: why using alien ?
[09:38] <Tonio_> tonia: no difference
[09:38] <tonia> ok
[09:38] <tonia> Tonio_: thanks i will try
[09:38] <Tonio_> supernova: ati drivers are provided as packages, no need to install within a rpm package....
[09:39] <tonia> another problem is that i use wireless connection
[09:39] <gringo> is karamba still in dev?
[09:39] <tonia> is there something that i should change from the preferences?
[09:39] <Tonio_> supernova: sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver fglrx-control should do the job
[09:39] <gringo> tonia: what kind of encryption?
[09:40] <tonia> H FETA TA SPAEI
[09:40] <gringo> ? Oo
[09:40] <mhterres> tonia: what :????
[09:41] <mhterres> tonia: no need to change nothing
[09:41] <Tonio_> mhterres: to install ati drivers
[09:41] <tonia> H FETA TA SPAEI (FETA RULES)
[09:41] <tonia> do you know feta?
[09:41] <mhterres> tonia: and what is FETA ??? :-)
[09:41] <tonia> feta is the greek chese
[09:42] <mhterres> Tonio_: yes, Tonio. How can I help you ?
[09:42] <tonia> i tried today
[09:42] <mhterres> tonia: Ohh, I see :-). Are you from Greece ?
[09:42] <Tonio_> mhterres: don't need help, but supernova needs ;)
[09:42] <tonia> yes
[09:42] <mhterres> hehehehe
[09:42] <tonia> mhterres: why
[09:42] <tonia> ?
[09:42] <mhterres> tonia: are H FETA TA SPAEI, greek ?
[09:43] <tonia> yes of course
[09:43] <gringo> !gr
[09:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, gr is #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia ellhnes xrhstes
[09:43] <mhterres> just curious :-) I think greece is a nice place, and I love greece ancient history
[09:44] <tonia> ubotu: are you all from the same country?
[09:44] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tonia
[09:44] <tonia> ubotu: why?
[09:44] <ubotu> Why not?
[09:44] <gemidjy> anyone managed to get XGL working under Kubuntu ?
[09:45] <tonia> ubotu: name me a reason and i will
[09:45] <ubotu> tonia: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:45] <tonia> ubotu: what is this?
[09:45] <ubotu> tonia: what are you talking about?
[09:46] <tonia> ubotu: you told me to try this site,why?
[09:46] <ubotu> tonia: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:47] <brandon_> what package has qt headers and libraries?
[09:47] <steveire> So, let's say I download and install v6.06b2 cleanly. When it gets frozen, I won't even notice, will I. And my operating system will be up to date?
[09:47] <tonia> mhterres: do you think this will fix my problem?
[09:48] <tonia> ubotu: do speak greek?
[09:48] <ubotu> tonia: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:48] <steveire> When I say clean install, I mean I'm going to fully remove the version on Kubuntu that is on it at the moment.
[09:48] <tonia> ubotu: ..
[09:48] <ubotu> tonia: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:51] <uniq> brandon_: libqt3-mt-dev, for all kde devel packages: 'kde-devel'
[09:52] <jeff_> hi guys\
[09:52] <jeff_> any web designers?
[09:53] <brandon_> yeah
[09:53] <jeff_> what do you guys use to design web pages?
[09:53] <brandon_> variety of things
[09:53] <brandon_> kate is spectacular, but you have to know code pretty well
[09:53] <brandon_> i suppose quanta is what you're looking for
[09:53] <jeff_> i mean, web pages with images and graphics that you make yourself
[09:54] <jeff_> lol i use quanta and kate
[09:54] <Hoobly> is there a quick user guide available in PDF anywhere?
[09:54] <jeff_> what app do you use to make the graphics that go on the webpage
[09:55] <brandon_> well i suppose the gimp would work
[09:55] <jeff_> auph
[09:55] <jeff_> lol i mean augh
[09:55] <jeff_> ok
[09:56] <sheldonc> which webpage are you talking about?
[09:56] <jeff_> im making a website
[09:56] <gringo> grrrrrrrrrrr
[09:56] <jeff_> yes i agree
[09:56] <brandon_> just make sure it validates. there's enough bad code out there
[09:57] <sheldonc> yeah
[09:57] <sheldonc> avoid images like the plague
[09:57] <jeff_> uhh
[09:57] <jeff_> but why?
[09:57] <jeff_> i want my site to be smexy
[09:57] <gringo> how can i disable dns over dhcp. i just want to get the ip adress and not the dns servers?
[09:57] <sheldonc> but if you really need to make them, i'd use macromedia fireworks. not a linux app, but its a tool for a job type of deal.
[09:57] <jeff_> ok
[09:58] <sheldonc> jeff_: sexy is one thing, but too many sites use images just to antialias text - this is extremely annoying
[09:58] <_tonia> out of topic!!!!!!!!! does anyone listen to tool??????????
[09:58] <brandon_> your dns info is stored in a file called /etc/resolv.conf. you can erase the information in this file
[09:58] <jeff_> ok
[09:58] <jeff_> so dont make a crappy site, gotcha
[09:59] <sheldonc> :)
[09:59] <uniq> gringo: edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf  - look at a line called 'request' remove 'domain-name-servers', save and exit.
[09:59] <brandon_> i don't care if it looks like homer simpson's site, just make sure the thing passes a validation test
[09:59] <steveire> fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:00] <steveire> I'm trying to print my partition table. Can someone see what noob mistake is making this not work?
[10:00] <brandon_> sudo fdisk -l
[10:00] <brandon_> you have to be root, first of all
[10:01] <steveire> thanks.
[10:01] <gringo> uniq: ok I did... now i can manually add the dns servers in network settings on KDE and they won't be erased on next reboot?
[10:02] <uniq> gringo: I think so, you can also specify the dns servers in the dhclient.conf file, with 'prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1'.
[10:03] <gringo> uniq: ok thanks. I'll try it with the KDE Settings so i can use the network profiles. If it won't work I'll edit the config file
[10:05] <uniq> gringo: good solution :)
[10:06] <steveire> Linux is unix-like right? What makes it unix like? The commands used? The code used?
[10:07] <gringo> steveire: are you a spy from SCO? :D ;)
[10:07] <vanhammersly> hey steve
[10:07] <vanhammersly> check this out:
[10:07] <vanhammersly> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[10:07] <vanhammersly> might be helpful
[10:09] <steveire> Yes, I think I read that at some stage before. I'll have another scan through. Is there no short answer to this? What about free/open/net BSD
[10:09] <steveire> ?
[10:09] <servomac_> in my KUbuntu installation, the default IRC client is KSirc .. can it be posible?
[10:10] <gringo> can somebody please take a look at this picture and tell me how I have to configure my taskbar that it will show the open windows in 2 lines? http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre2/29702-2.png
[10:12] <NoUse>  http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre2/29702-2.png
[10:12] <NoUse> oops
[10:12] <NoUse> gringo right click on the taskbar and edit the prefs
[10:13] <_tonia> help
[10:13] <nysosym> hi all
[10:13] <NoUse> gringo increase the size and it will make it two lines
[10:13] <NoUse> !helpme
[10:13] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[10:14] <vanhammersly> i have a dapper question
[10:14] <vanhammersly> i am running kde
[10:14] <vanhammersly> and installed gnome
[10:14] <vanhammersly> somehow gnome broke.  after logging in i get two flashing white bars, at top and bottom, then nothing
[10:14] <gringo> NoUse: hmm but then all those buttons are getting bigger
[10:15] <NoUse> gringo yeah
[10:15] <vanhammersly> any ideas what might be broken?  x-server?
[10:15] <NoUse> vanhammersly how did you install gnome?
[10:15] <_tonia> I istalled amule and i tried to download a mp3 but its status remains <waiting>
[10:15] <gringo> NoUse: :/ but i want small buttons and 2 lines of open windows
[10:15] <vanhammersly> through adept
[10:15] <NoUse> gringo I dont think it works that way
[10:16] <gringo> NoUse: hm ok thanks
[10:16] <vanhammersly> i installed all necessary packages through adept for gnome
[10:16] <NoUse> vanhammersly you didn't just install ubuntu-desktop?
[10:16] <vanhammersly> apt-get downloads kde and gnome updates
[10:16] <vanhammersly> no, i also have nautilus, gdm, etc.
[10:17] <NoUse> vanhammersly they how do you know you have all the packages you need :-)
[10:17] <vanhammersly> ha!
[10:17] <vanhammersly> good point
[10:17] <_tonia> does anyone listens me?????????
[10:17] <NoUse> _tonia I don't know anything about amule
[10:17] <mhterres> yes
[10:17] <vanhammersly> maybe i am missing something
[10:17] <mhterres> tonia: It takes a long time to start
[10:17] <jeff_> _tonia: lol neither do i
[10:17] <NoUse> vanhammersly sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:17] <mhterres> tonia: if you share some of your files It'll start faster
[10:18] <_tonia> I am waiting for 14 minutes
[10:18] <vanhammersly> already newest version
[10:18] <vanhammersly> just tried
[10:18] <mhterres> share some files
[10:18] <jeff_> mhterres: how does that work?
[10:18] <NoUse> vanhammersly might check your ~/.xsession-errors file
[10:18] <mhterres> jeff_: You should share some files
[10:19] <mhterres> jeff_: and be patience in the beggining
[10:19] <mhterres> more you use, more faster it'll be :-)
[10:19] <jeff_> mhterres: yeah i know sharing is good, but how does it make her connact faster?
[10:19] <mhterres> patience is the key
[10:19] <_tonia> i created a folder in my desktop ro put the downloads should i put something in this that folder?
[10:20] <mhterres> You need to create a directory, put some files there and share this folder
[10:21] <mhterres> are you with a lowid ?
[10:21] <_tonia> mhterres: i get this messages when i run xmule
[10:21] <mhterres> what message ?
[10:22] <_tonia> the lowid thing
[10:22] <mhterres> hmmm, so I'll be much more slower
[10:22] <mhterres> You need to not block the amule ports in your firewall and router
[10:23] <vanhammersly> NoUse: i am showing a lot of gdk errors
[10:24] <NoUse> vanhammersly pastebin that
[10:24] <mhterres> _tonia and jeff_: can you do that ?
[10:25] <vanhammersly> okay.  just sent.
[10:25] <jeff_> can i do what
[10:25] <mhterres> unblock the amule ports
[10:25] <jeff_> not block amile ports?
[10:25] <jeff_> on the router i guess
[10:25] <mhterres> yep
[10:25] <NoUse> vanhammersly URL?
[10:26] <vanhammersly> right
[10:26] <vanhammersly> sorry
[10:26] <vanhammersly> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/694940
[10:27] <NoUse> vanhammersly this isn't starting gnome, its still starting KDE
[10:27] <NoUse> vanhammersly  you have to select the proper session in gdm/kdm
[10:27] <vanhammersly> i did
[10:27] <vanhammersly> well
[10:27] <vanhammersly> i alt f1-d out of gdm
[10:27] <vanhammersly> did a gdm stop
[10:27] <vanhammersly> because it locked
[10:28] <vanhammersly> with the flashing above and below
[10:28] <vanhammersly> then logged into kde
[10:28] <vanhammersly> which started fine
[10:28] <NoUse> vanhammersly ah if you start KDE it overwrite thats file
[10:29] <vanhammersly> NoUse: hmmm...gotcha
[10:29] <NoUse> vanhammersly log into gnome, then go to a terminal C+A+F1 or whatever and look at the file from there
[10:31] <gringo> KBFX is just not changeing my button :(
[10:31] <gringo> -e
[10:31] <iNiku> amsn working for anyone in dapper?
[10:31] <iNiku> it segfaults on me when starting up
[10:32] <NoUse> iNiku check with #ubuntu+1
[10:33] <iNiku> NoUse: I did... however:
[10:33] <iNiku> 23:33 -!- Topic for #kubuntu: Kubuntu 6.06 Beta 2 released!  http://tinyurl.com/g9owy | Dapper discussion/support in here! |
[10:34] <NoUse> iNiku I was just suggesting there might be more people that are using dapper
[10:34] <graft> hey... anyone using knetworkmanager? It insists that 'networkmanager' isn't running, although it appears to be...
[10:34] <gringo> graft: yes I use it
[10:34] <gringo> graft: i had to reboot :/
[10:34] <graft> gringo: tried that...
[10:35] <capesidereal> hi, some1 help me with a partitionquestion
[10:35] <gringo> graft: try to reinstall and then reboot again, i had the same problem
[10:37] <gringo> nobody familar with kbfx? :(
[10:37] <capesidereal> do i have to partition my HD before install or will kubuntu allow me  to partition during install ?
[10:38] <gringo> capesidereal: you can do this during the installation
[10:38] <capesidereal> without losing my current win xp installation ?
[10:39] <rysiek|pl> capesidereal: you would have to readm GNU parted docs, but I *think* yeah
[10:39] <vanhammersly> NoUse: i get a message that says gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1
[10:40] <rysiek|pl> capesidreal: although I would recommend using Partition Magic first
[10:41] <rysiek|pl> capesidereal: under Windows shrink your windows' partition with Partition Magic so that you have enough space for Kubuntu, and then run the installation - and from within partition the free space for your linux :)
[10:41] <capesidereal> i used partition magic, it gave error during partioning and it screwed up my boot
[10:41] <rysiek|pl> awww
[10:42] <rysiek|pl> I used PM something about a million times now and A was OK, so I suppose you might have had some hardware problem
[10:42] <vanhammersly> capesidereal: you might wanna view this
[10:42] <vanhammersly> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=
[10:42] <vanhammersly> it helped me dual boot
[10:42] <capesidereal> ok i'll take a look
[10:43] <capesidereal> thx for now, back to install
[10:43] <vanhammersly> it's very good for step by step, but it does it for breezy
[10:43] <vanhammersly> not dapper
[10:43] <vanhammersly> don't know if you're tryign dapper
[10:44] <capesidereal> kubuntu 5.10
[10:44] <vanhammersly> right
[10:44] <capesidereal> dapper it is
[10:44] <vanhammersly> that's what you're trying to install?
[10:44] <capesidereal> latest distro
[10:44] <vanhammersly> breezy's much better right now.  dapper's still beta, bugs not ironed out
[10:45] <vanhammersly> honestly, i'm a noob, but you'll get much more bang for your buck w/ 5.10
[10:45] <vanhammersly> automatix helps set everything up
[10:45] <trappist> dapper's looking pretty darn good right now
[10:45] <vanhammersly> much easier and more enjoyable experience.
[10:45] <vanhammersly> agreed.  i am on dapper right now
[10:45] <trappist> but technically not stable
[10:46] <vanhammersly> but, in all honesty, breezy is better at this point
[10:46] <vanhammersly> just because it's easier
[10:46] <vanhammersly> i can't tell you one thing i have w/ dapper that exceeds anything on breezy
[10:46] <vanhammersly> it's basically the same, really
[10:47] <capesidereal> its breezy i checked, i'm gonna watch the video now
[10:48] <Seantater> How about xgl -- when it becomes stable?
[10:48] <vanhammersly> when it becomes stable, it's gonna be sweet
[10:48] <vanhammersly> i'd rather wait, though, until i'm not spending three hours for a waving window bar
[10:49] <kronoz> hi, i installed kubuntu-desktop from gnome and then in alacarte removed the kde apps from the gnome menu and it did the same to my kde menu, is there a way to put the k menu back to normal
[10:49] <kronoz> ie, with all the kde apps
[10:50] <kronoz> other than adding them all manually...
[10:57] <mhterres> bye guys
[11:24] <Oli> hiho
[11:25] <Oli> how could I check that my glibc really uses NPTL?
[11:25] <Oli> I have glibc6 and glibc6-i686 installed...there is something noticed that in the *-i686 nptl support is included
[11:26] <deang-2> FYI.. https://kubuntu.org directed me to edubuntu's site.
[11:37] <DaSkreech2> !Mp3
[11:37] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:37] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[11:37] <beingmrkenny> hi, I'm currently running Ubuntu, but want to use the KDE desktop. I've installed the kubutnu-desktop package, but how do I get it to start up using the KDE desktop by default?
[11:38] <tonia> hello
[11:39] <iNiku> beingmrkenny: my guess would be sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[11:40] <beingmrkenny> cool, i'll give it a whirl
[11:40] <iNiku> or sudo vi /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:40] <iNiku> well, that will change the display manager (the login thingy), actually it might not affect the default desktop environment
[11:40] <iNiku> I'm not sure.
[11:40] <beingmrkenny> iNiku: is that X eleven, or two lower case L's?
[11:41] <iNiku> eleven
[11:41] <beingmrkenny> cheers!
[11:41] <iNiku> and if you don't know how to use vi, don't do that :)
[11:41] <bixter> any1 one that can help with the latest beta2 gui installer?
[11:41] <beingmrkenny> oooh you stopped me just in time. I'm a Linux newbie, and I'm taking a confident approach to things
[11:42] <iNiku> do the dpkg-reconfigure, I think it should ask you which one yo uwant to use
[11:43] <beingmrkenny> right, well I set to  KDM
[11:43] <beingmrkenny> do I have to restart??
[11:43] <tonia> in amule i get a lowid what can i do?
[11:46] <tonia> hellllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:46] <tonia> in amule i get a lowid what can i do?
[11:48] <iNiku> beingmrkenny: no, just log out and restart X
[11:49] <beingmrkenny> sorry, what's X? :S
[11:49] <iNiku> I think there's a session menu or something where you have the option to do that
[11:49] <iNiku> X Window System, the windowing system
[11:50] <beingmrkenny> how do I restart that? (sorry, complete noob)
[11:50] <iNiku> when you log out, in the login screen there should be some kind of a menu where you have the option to do that
[11:50] <beingmrkenny> ha, sorry, i'm still expecting things to be really complicated :)
[11:51] <iNiku> well, they can be :)
[11:51] <iNiku> if you can't find the restart function
[11:51] <beingmrkenny> this is what i'm beginning to like about linux
[11:51] <iNiku> press ctrl-alt-backspace in the login screen, that will kill X and it will automatically restart
[11:51] <iNiku> or hmm. actually, maybe not
[11:51] <beingmrkenny> haha!
[11:51] <iNiku> since you just changed your display manager which is responsible for starting X
[11:52] <iNiku> you know, the simple thing is to just reboot. it's very rarely needed but sometimes it's the easy way out
[11:52] <beingmrkenny> well, i'm gonna give it a go, see what happens, probably be back here in a couple of minutes
[11:52] <beingmrkenny> thanks iNiku!
[11:55] <beingmrkenny> yup it worked! lovely shiny KDE :D
[11:56] <dave40> if you kill X with ctrl+alt+bkspce and X does not restart try "killall -9 kdm" and then "kdm"
[11:56] <dave40> once now I had to do that after upgrading X
[11:57] <beingmrkenny> hehe, gotta restart now anyway to resize my screen, it's flickering so much I don't think it's good for my brain
[11:57] <dave40> ctrl+alt++ until it stops flickering
[11:58] <dave40> that's just a res issue
[12:01] <steveire> Is there some way I can force close an app that wont close?
[12:02] <dave40> ps ax to see teh apps pid