/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2006/05/07/#ubuntu-meeting.txt

=== raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation]
=== fogos [n=marco@201.123.44.11] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== KOnsumer [n=KOnsumer@drsd-d9b843bc.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== KOnsi [n=KOnsumer@drsd-d9b843ad.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== mjg59 [n=mjg59@217.147.92.49] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== j_ack [n=nico@p508DB622.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== cyphase [n=cyphase@adsl-75-2-128-48.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== LazySod [n=henryson@1-1-11-41a.f.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== LazySod [n=henryson@1-1-11-41a.f.sth.bostream.se] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Bananrepublik"]
=== No1Viking [n=No4Vikin@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== dsas [n=dean@host81-158-81-220.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== j_ack [n=nico@p508D9E9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== No1Viking [n=No4Vikin@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== dieffel [n=dieffel@535A972B.flatrate.dk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== FLeiXiuS [n=fleixius@c-68-50-206-161.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== No1Viking [n=No4Vikin@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== fogos [n=marco@201.123.44.11] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Toadstool [n=jcorbier@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== mvo [n=egon@i577B16FC.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-141-13.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Fracture [n=Fracture@dsl-202-173-191-84.qld.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== No1Viking [n=No4Vikin@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Toadstool [n=jcorbier@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== ubuntu_lt [n=Styx`@adsl-81-7-89-163.takas.lt] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
ubuntu_lt@schedule Vilnius08:57
UbugtuSchedule for Europe/Vilnius: 03 May 00:00: Community Council | 03 May 15:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 16:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 05:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 23:00: Technical Board | 10 May 15:00: Edubuntu08:57
=== raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Toadstool [n=jcorbier@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== dholbach [n=daniel@i577B16FC.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== dholbach [n=daniel@i577B16FC.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Toadstool [n=jcorbier@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Toadstool [n=jcorbier@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== sfllaw [i=sfllaw@206-248-152-103.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== sfllaw [i=sfllaw@206-248-152-216.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.48.158] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== rikai [n=kitty@pool-72-65-98-194.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== ozamosi- [n=nozamosi@h208n10c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== sHaDe [n=sHaDe@host207-235.pool875.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-084-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Ju_ [n=Ju@c-24-126-231-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== valis [n=mariusz@chello212186171210.24.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== j_ack [n=nico@p508D9E9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AF5A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== sHaDe [n=sHaDe@host207-235.pool875.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== sHaDe is now known as _sHaDe
=== dieffel [n=dieffel@535A972B.flatrate.dk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== LazySod [n=henryson@1-1-11-41a.f.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== LazySod [n=henryson@1-1-11-41a.f.sth.bostream.se] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Bananrepublik"]
=== sfllaw [i=sfllaw@debian/developer/coleSLAW] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== ubuntugeek [n=ubuntuge@64.141.138.3] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== ubuntugeek [n=ubuntuge@64.141.138.3] has left #ubuntu-meeting []
=== Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-meeting []
=== caleb- [n=caleb@219-84-15-89-adsl-tpe.STATIC.so-net.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== lbm [n=lbm@82.192.169.174] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== jarufe [n=jarufe@pc-155-140-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
sfllaw@schedule Canada/Eastern05:49
=== mako__ [n=mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
ograsfllaw, wait until Ubugtu is back :)05:58
ograprobably Seveas didnt notice it crashed yet 05:58
sfllawNeither did I.05:58
sfllaw:)05:58
=== cassidy [n=gdesmott@di-pc21.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== chombee [i=seanh@otaku.freeshell.ORG] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== j_ack [n=nico@p508D9E9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== vuntz [n=vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #Ubuntu-meeting
UbugtuHi ogra!06:47
UbugtuHi sfllaw!06:47
=== highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== cyphase [n=cyphase@adsl-75-2-128-48.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== dsas [n=dean@host86-129-15-192.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== cyphase [n=cyphase@adsl-75-2-128-48.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Yann3 [n=Yann2@AToulouse-157-1-66-213.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== No1Viking [n=No4Vikin@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== j_ack [n=nico@p508D9E9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
cbx33@schedule london09:02
UbugtuSchedule for Europe/London: 02 May 22:00: Community Council | 03 May 13:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 14:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 03:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 21:00: Technical Board | 10 May 13:00: Edubuntu09:02
Klaidas@schedule vilnius09:06
UbugtuSchedule for Europe/Vilnius: 03 May 00:00: Community Council | 03 May 15:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 16:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 05:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 23:00: Technical Board | 10 May 15:00: Edubuntu09:06
=== KOnsumer [n=KOnsumer@87.193.50.223] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
Lure@schedule Ljubljana09:15
UbugtuSchedule for Europe/Ljubljana: 02 May 23:00: Community Council | 03 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 15:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 22:00: Technical Board | 10 May 14:00: Edubuntu09:15
=== Surak [n=ubuntu@20150173120.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== eric_p [n=eric@lam06-2-82-234-171-65.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
olive@schedule paris09:38
UbugtuSchedule for Europe/Paris: 02 May 23:00: Community Council | 03 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 15:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 22:00: Technical Board | 10 May 14:00: Edubuntu09:38
=== kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
Surakubugtu, schedule salvador09:40
Ju@schedule salvador09:40
Surak@schedule salvador09:41
JuSurak: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=5&day=2&year=2006&hour=21&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 ;-)09:41
SurakJu: Thanks, I noticed. I was just testing ubugtu :-)09:42
Ju;-)09:42
Surak@schedule bahia09:43
UbugtuSchedule for America/Bahia: 02 May 18:00: Community Council | 03 May 09:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 10:30: Xubuntu | 03 May 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 17:00: Technical Board | 10 May 09:00: Edubuntu09:43
Surakodd. Every place in brazil is named by city, but not salvador. The state's name is used instead.09:44
=== Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
simiracc meeting in an hour?09:51
sfllawYes.09:51
=== mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== alef0 [i=alef0@M941P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@unaffiliated/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== jimbob [n=542deec3@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== j_ack [n=nico@p508D9E9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Surak [n=Surak@201009098083.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== filhocf [n=Claudio_@200.101.7.194] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
filhocfsurak: presente! ;)10:32
Surak:-)10:32
SurakObrigado!10:32
filhocfsurak: se cair,  pq a porta ssh t instvel, mas eu reconecto em seguida.10:32
Surakok10:32
filhocfqquer coisa, me chama qdo for iniciar os "rituais". ;-)10:33
Suraktudo bem! eu grito l no icq :-)10:33
Meyerno pt_br allowed here..10:37
filhocfMeyer: sorry... i am new here... will not repeat. 10:38
=== KurtKraut [n=ktk@tor/session/external/x-8fea18549379efb8] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
licioSurak, your fun club is big10:43
Suraklicio: I hope so. Quite anxious tough10:44
Yann3ahah quite unusual, a canonical employee who wants to become ubuntu member :)10:45
=== Dilago [n=dilago@201.19.253.10] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
SeveasYann3, noy unusual at all10:47
Yann3ah? :] 10:47
Seveasall canonical employees should be members by now10:47
Seveaswell, the distro-team10:47
Seveasnot all employees10:47
=== LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
Meyerheya Seveas 10:49
Meyerhow u doin10:49
Seveasbusy 10:50
Meyeri can imagine.. 10:50
SurakMeyer, did you receive my email?10:50
Toadstoolhi everybody10:50
MeyerSurak, yep10:50
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Community Council | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 03 May 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 03 May 13:30 UTC: Xubuntu | 04 May 02:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 10 May 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu
MeyerSeveas, i've been busy too.. a lot of conferences around here..10:50
=== bknec_ [n=bknec@user122.217-10-115.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
Meyerchannell will start to fill now.. :P10:52
=== nalioth [n=nalioth@ubuntu/member/pdpc.bronze.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== olemke [n=olemke@p5489533C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== mc44 [n=rddpo@80-42-147-55.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
MeyerSeveas, time to start?10:58
Meyerping'd everyone?10:58
Kamion(here)10:58
Meyer:)10:58
Bluekujahi kamion10:58
Bluekuja:)10:58
=== iegary [n=gary@cpc1-inch2-4-1-cust132.dbln.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== Meyer is Mario Meyer
sfllawHi everybody!11:00
Bluekujahi sfllaw11:00
SurakHello11:00
=== TobSiCret [n=tobias@hnvr-d9b8ebb4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
elmoI'm here too - mako said he was on his way home, but should be back RSN (if he isn't already)11:00
=== Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
Gloubiboulgahi all11:00
Tonio_hi everyone11:00
=== nalioth is Marek Spruell
mdkeevening everyone.11:01
=== Surak is Alexandre Otto Strube
Bluekujaciao matt11:01
=== Ju is Julien Rottenberg
=== azeem is Michael Banck
=== Lure is Luka Renko
=== ogra is Oliver Grawert
=== sfllaw is Simon Law.
=== iegary is Gary Coady
BlueT_hi everybody11:01
=== cbx33 is Pete Savage
Bluekujahey BlueT_11:01
=== bimberi is David Symons
=== Toadstool is Jrmie Corbier
=== dsas is Dean Sas
BlueT_Bluekuja: yo :D11:02
=== Seveas is Dennis "Evil Bastard" Kaarsemaker
=== licio is Licio Fernando
=== dholbach is Daniel Holbach
=== Gloubiboulga is Gauvain Pocentek
=== mvo michael vogt
Meyerlol nice alias, Seveas 11:03
=== simira is Karianne Grnningster
=== ogra fails to see the evil part in Seveas
=== mdke points
Seveasogra, heh, so much you don't know11:03
=== LaserJock is Jordan (Mr. Science) Mantha
ogramdke, oh, right11:03
ograSeveas, i hope i can find out in paris ;)11:03
Seveasme too11:03
=== ompaul is Paul O'Malley
=== Tonio_ is anthony mercatante
=== gnomefreak is John Vivirito
=== Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host199-235.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"]
Seveasgnomefreak, do you have a sec for a quick PM?11:04
=== Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host199-235.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
gnomefreakyes sir11:04
=== lucas is Lucas Nussbaum
=== Bluekuja is Andrea Veri
mdkeelmo: do you have a few moments before we start?11:05
elmosabdfl sends his apologies, so once mako turns up we can get started11:05
=== BlueT_ is Matthew Lien
elmomdke: I guess11:05
elmomdke: (not in here tho, pls)11:05
=== FLeiXiuS [n=fleixius@c-68-50-206-161.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
elmounless it's CC related, of course11:05
mdkeelmo: no. query11:05
filhocfis Claudio Filho (and present)11:06
=== ogra would like to point out that the edubuntu council will hold its first meeting tomorrow, we'll also approve members as the CC will, so if you are involved in edubuntu, please apply there to take the load off the CC (membership is the same as approved by CC)
=== dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
Seveas@schedule 11:07
Ubugtuschedule Retrieve the date/time of scheduled meetings in a specific timezone11:07
=== Yann3 is Yann Hamon
Seveas@schedule amsterdam11:07
UbugtuSchedule for Europe/Amsterdam: Current meeting: Community Council | 03 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 15:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 22:00: Technical Board | 10 May 14:00: Edubuntu11:07
Meyerogra, actualy can i pvt u for a sec?11:07
ograMeyer, sure11:07
Seveas"Edubuntu" also being "edubuntu council"?11:07
azeemogra: do you approve members parallel or serial to the CC?11:08
BluekujaSeveas: yes11:08
ograSeveas, yes, we decided that every first meeting in a month is an EC meeting11:08
=== Yann3 is now known as Yann2
Seveascool, maybe that should be made more clear on the fridge? 11:08
makoapolgies, got held up on the subway11:08
makoi'm here now11:08
ograazeem, edubuntu membership includes ubuntu membership and vice versa11:08
Seveaswelcome mako11:08
=== crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
azeemok11:09
Seveaswe can start!11:09
Bluekujahi mako11:09
azeemel mako11:09
bknec_heh11:09
=== seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
cbx33hi mako 11:09
ograazeem, its just to take the load off here a bit11:09
simirahi mako, hi seb128 11:09
seb128Hi simira11:10
mdkeawesome turnout to the meeting this evening.11:10
simiramdke: we're getting there ;)11:10
Seveasmako, care to kick off the agenda? 11:10
makosure11:10
simirait's mostly new members proposals today?11:10
makoi'm catching up now11:10
makoand thawing out my fingers11:10
Seveaswe haven't started yet 11:11
makogive me one second11:11
makoyes, i know ;P11:11
=== theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4207973.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
BlueT_simira: i've been waiting fr it for a month :311:12
BlueT_s/fr/for/11:12
makoalright11:12
makoagenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda11:12
makofirst up is Developer/Member governance processes11:12
mdkemdz: are you around to discuss this too?11:13
makoso you brought up a few issues here11:13
=== chombee [i=seanh@ukato.freeshell.ORG] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
makodo you mind if i break it down11:14
mdkecourse not :)11:14
makoone issues seems to be that launchpad information is out of date11:14
makothere was a list i was maintaining by hand11:14
makowhich i still have11:14
makoof people who had signed the CoC but they still need to go through the new process in LP11:15
makoAFAIK, there has been no systematic attempt at doing this11:15
makothere should be11:15
=== bugman [n=bugman@host-84-221-9-20.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
makofolks in core-dev should be in ubuntu-members11:15
mdkebefore joining core-dev?11:15
makowell, i think that the group is a subgroup of members so they are implicitly members11:16
makois that right?11:16
Kamionthere was a systematic attempt to make sure at least core uploaders had signed the CoC at the time of the switch to Soyuz, because it was a technical requirement there IIRC11:16
elmomako: I think there should be11:16
elmos/there/it/11:16
elmochecking11:16
=== phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
makoKamion: right, i guess i did it before then11:16
makoi noticed that i was not a member except implicitly through the CC IIRC11:16
elmohmm, it's not11:16
mdkeif that's the case (that core-dev is a subgroup of membership), it means the TB is approving them for membership as well as upload rights.11:17
elmoI think ubuntu-core-dev should be a member of ubuntu-members11:17
elmobut that'd require the TB to not jump our gun11:17
=== Willhunting [n=Will@lns-bzn-39-82-255-63-252.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
mdkewhich in turn would slow down the process of getting upload rights, for example for employees11:18
makoright11:18
mdkeunless they were automatically members11:18
mdkethat might make sense11:18
Kamionthe TB conducts a reasonably detailed interview with each core-dev candidate11:19
makoright11:19
Kamionpersonally I could probably see my way clear to considering that sufficient to pass the bar for membership11:19
makoit's not exactly easy to get added to core-dev11:19
elmocore-dev yes11:19
Kamionubuntu-dev would be a slightly different matter; the bar there is lower11:19
elmo-dev is a little different11:19
elmoand both ought to be members of ubuntu-members11:19
=== mako nods to elmo
Kamionyeah11:20
makook11:20
makoso there's at least three issues here11:20
mako(a) how is the stated policy out of sync with LP and how do we fix it (which one do we fix)?11:21
mako(b) how should the policy/LP be changed or improved to make this work the way we think it should?11:21
mako(c) how do we get people already in the system who were grandfathered or skipped steps in one way or another to go back and check the right boxes11:21
makohonestly, (b) sounds like a paris dev summit topic11:22
Seveas(c) is part of (a) if the answer of (a) is that lp is out of sync11:23
=== skateinmars [n=skateinm@arl13-1-82-240-6-242.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
mdkefor a), you'd need to discuss with the TB about the -dev must be members thing11:23
makoright11:23
mdkethat would be a change in policy, afaics11:23
mdkealthough, I don't attend TB meeting much11:23
Kamionif we wanted to deal with the meeting-delay problem, then the easiest approach might well be to agree some guidelines with the TB to make sure that we're happy that their ubuntu-dev procedure is at least as strong as our membership procedure11:24
=== _jason [n=jasonr@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
=== mako nods to Kamion
=== Sanne [n=Sanne@p548D80CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
elmogiven we've already delegated membership privs to edubuntu, kubuntu, delegating it indirectly to the TB, doesn't sound like much of a step11:25
mdkethat would be tricky to maintain consistent, IMO11:25
mdkeah, that's a good point.11:25
elmoprovided, like kamion says, we ask them to step up their barrier to entry to match outs11:25
=== mako nods to elmo
simirasounds sensible11:25
elmoand I'm still a little concerned about their Q = 2, but that's not a big deal I guess11:25
mdkenice idea.11:25
elmos/outs/ours/11:25
=== bugman [n=bugman@host-84-221-9-20.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"]
mdkeare the current requirements for -member status documented on the website?11:26
mdkei figure they're on the wiki somewhere11:26
Seveasmdke, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes11:27
mdkeSeveas: "substantial contribution" is as far as it goes, or did I miss a page?11:27
mdkeoh no, there it is, my bad11:28
Seveas"A person who wants to become a member should be engaged in a sustained level of contribution to the Ubuntu community. This can include coding, writing or documentation, the creation of art-work, music, testing, bug triage and verification, translation, advocacy, leadership of LoCo teams, etc. Contributions should be significant and visible. Anybody who is active in the Ubuntu community is a good 11:28
Seveascandidate for Ubuntu membership."11:28
ompaulmdke it is repeated here more or less  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewMemberHowto11:28
makomdke: substantian and sustained contribution11:28
mdkeyeah, my bad11:28
SeveasSo: who's going to coordinate this with the TB?11:29
makowell11:30
makothere is still the issue of what happens with the current core-dev members11:31
makowho have not been put through the more rigorous process11:31
makosorry11:31
makothe current -dev members11:31
mdkeshouldn't be hard to track em down, they're all quite active11:31
ajmitchit'd only be inactive ones that may not be on launchpad11:31
makoi think we could put core-dev into members unless the tb has any reservations about any candidates11:31
makowhich i suspect they do not11:31
SeveasMost of them would be no-brainers for membership and a few meetings ago it was decided that that could be done outside the meetings11:31
Seveas(core-dev)11:32
KamionI've got no reservations about anyone in -core-dev at the moment11:32
=== mako nods to Kamion
LureCan CC not just group approve all core-dev now?11:33
Kamionapart from that dodgy "Matt Zimmerman" block11:33
Kamioner, bloke11:33
LaserJockhehe11:33
KamionLure: no, people have to opt to join the team themselves, I don't know of a way to conscript people11:33
LureKamion: right11:33
mdkewho is Chris Halls, I don't think I've met him around?11:33
cbx33my apologies, I have to dash11:33
SeveasThere are 3 I haven't seen a lot (Thom May, Charles Majola and Chris Halls), but I expect you know them much better than I do11:34
Kamionmdke: haggai, used to do Kubuntu11:34
mdkewhat's his irc nick?11:34
Kamionand OpenOffice11:34
filhocfChris Halls is a DD.11:34
mdkeah, gotcha11:34
KamionThom May is retired from Ubuntu really, dunno if he cares11:34
simiramdke: he was in Mataro, at lease11:34
KamionCharles is one of the Impi crowd in .za11:34
simiraleast*11:34
ograKamion, you mean that opportunistic troublemaker mdz ?11:34
ogra:)11:34
Kamionogra: right11:34
dholbachHe does, I had a conversation with him already.11:34
Kamiondholbach: who?11:35
dholbachI'm referring to Thom.11:35
dholbachHe'd like to get involved again, esp. with apache.11:35
mdkeit would definitely be good to chase up those who haven't signed the CoC in there, and ask them to, even if they've signed it by other means11:35
Kamiondholbach: ah, cool11:35
ogradholbach, that'd be so great !11:35
=== mako nods to mdke
makomdke: if you have a list, i'm happy to spam them11:35
mdkemako: alright.11:36
Kamionok, anything else before we move on?11:36
Kamion22:29 < Seveas> So: who's going to coordinate this with the TB?11:36
KamionI guess11:36
mdkemdz expressed an interest, I can summarise the meeting in an email for him, if you like11:37
makoi think that's good11:37
=== mako nods to mdke
Kamionmdke: that would be good if you're willing, please cc community-council@lists11:37
mdkei'll cc it to community-council so you can check for accuracy11:37
=== Toadstool [n=jcorbier@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
mdkeyeah11:37
Kamionwe can follow up if there are further questions, or I can talk with him on the phone, or something11:38
makoyes11:38
makois there any other non-member business?11:38
makobefore we move on to that?11:38
Meyeryes11:38
makoMeyer: shoot11:38
Meyeri'd like to bring something up11:38
Meyeri think it was mdke who wrote about Quallity Assurance in translations..11:38
Meyerand it has become a big problem..11:39
=== simira agrees, we need a solution to that
Meyeri was thinking if there are any plans to improve LP on that matter11:39
Meyerfor instance, we can't know who made a bad translation11:39
SeveasMeyer: the NL team has taken a drastic approach to it: kick everyone from the team and do all via the mailinglist11:39
mdkeMeyer: there has been a discuss about improving rosetta on the rosetta mailing list. The CC: can't do anything about it11:39
KamionI'm not sure that's something any of the CC can answer; I'd suggest bringing it up on launchpad-users@lists if it hasn't been done already11:39
Meyerso it's hard to take those people out11:39
Kamionor rosetta-users@11:39
SeveasKamion, agreed11:39
simiratrue11:40
mdkeKamion: it's been discussed in depth and carlos and jordi are collecting feature requests. It's difficult to do more. 11:40
simirawill it be a Paris issue?11:40
mdkepart of the problem lies with translation groups, I'd suggest continuing the discussion on loco-contacts11:40
makoright, this sounds like there is some missing functionality in lp11:40
Meyerok.. thanks.. i just wanted to know how it was going on11:40
Kamionsimira: Paris is for Ubuntu, not LP, afaik11:40
SurakIndeed. And there's no "default" glossary to keep translations coherent. Bug 3577411:41
UbugtuMalone bug 35774 in rosetta "Some sort of glossary integrated to rosetta" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3577411:41
simira*sigh* Kamion: LP improvements would support Ubuntu, right? :p11:41
mdkesimira: there are separate conferences for launchpad.11:41
Kamionsimira: sure, but the LP developers won't be there, for the most part11:41
=== jarufe [n=jarufe@pc-155-140-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
LureWith Dapper I started to follow Flight's and daily updates, updating my laptop t11:41
Lureesting page. As klaptop was unmaintained, I looked into getting kpowersave up-to11:41
Lure-date (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowersave), but then got distracted with wireless stuff (network-manager 0.6.x), worked on packaging knetworkmanager (and doing related bug triage on forums).11:41
Luresorry11:41
=== Kamion spots an itchy mouse finger
SeveasLure, please wait your turn ;)11:41
simiramdke, Kamion: yesyes, I know...11:41
SeveasShall we move on to members?11:42
Kamionyes, let's11:42
makoheh11:42
makoi think Lure has already done so11:42
ogra:)11:42
Tonio_hehe11:42
SeveasToadstool, you're up.11:42
Toadstoolthanks Seveas, hi everybody11:42
ToadstoolI am Jrmie Corbier, a 21 years old french telecommunications engineering11:42
Toadstoolstudent. I am an Ubuntu user since Warty. I spend a lot of time on irc helping11:42
Toadstoolusers. I am also quite used to packaging since I am the maintainer of11:42
Toadstoolwide-dhcpv6 package for Debian (version 20060322-2 uploaded today) and11:42
ToadstoolUbuntu. I am a member of the Bug Squad and try to file/triage/fix as many bugs11:42
Toadstoolas possible.11:42
ToadstoolFor the future, I want to keep on helping Ubuntu users on irc and11:42
Toadstoolin real life as the community is one of the main Ubuntu strengths. I also plan11:42
Toadstoolto continue helping with bugs, maybe package more applications and above all11:42
ToadstoolI would like to become a MOTU and help making the future releases rock.11:42
ograToadstool, is very present in #ubuntu-bugs11:43
SeveasAnd on malone11:43
Gloubiboulgaand in #ubuntu-fr{,-testing}11:43
dholbachYeah, he's one of the assets in the BugSquad and we're all pleased to have him there.11:44
Seveas\o/ for bug triaging, he's doing a good amount of work11:44
ograyeah11:44
Toadstoolthanks guys :)11:44
=== dholbach hugs Toadstool
=== TobSiCret [n=tobias@hnvr-d9b8ebb4.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation]
lucasI've seen Jeremie working very efficiently on some bugs I didn't have time to work on11:45
LaserJockToadstool has been contributing to #ubuntu-motu for a while now11:46
SeveasToadstool, the CC is now scrutinizing (sp?) your wikipage - beware 11:46
Toadstool:)11:46
SeveasToadstool, it takes them quite long. Could be bad news ;)11:47
Kamionno problems here, fwiw; I've dealt with Jeremie once or twice and he's seemed competent; testimonials are good11:47
ToadstoolI'll be back :p11:47
makoyes, looks good by me11:48
elmoyeah, ack11:48
SeveasKamion: afaik he hasn't yet closed one of your bugs by accident ;)11:48
KamionSeveas: is that what you call it? ;)11:48
Seveasok, that's 311:48
ograwelcome Toadstool then :)11:48
makoToadstool: welcome11:48
SeveasCongratulations Toadstool!11:48
sfllawToadstool: Congrats!11:48
GloubiboulgaToadstool, congrats :)11:48
Toadstoolthanks everybody :)11:48
mdkewell done Toadstool 11:48
ograthat was really fast :)11:48
SeveasBluekuja, you're uo11:48
dholbachCONGRATS!11:48
Seveasup even...11:48
Bluekujaok thanks seveas11:48
BluekujaMy name is Andrea Veri and I live in Italy,im finishing high school and I'm a great Ubuntu and Free software fan. My wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndreaVeri, Launchpad one https://launchpad.net/people/bluekuja.I'm an active member of edubuntu team,contributing with advocacy(right now I'm working on a great specification, the Edubuntu Schools Advocacy Manifesto,that can be found here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuS11:49
BluekujachoolAdvocacy) in italian schools, testing new releases and providing bugs reports for the testing team.I have made several wiki pages and a lot of translations too,also I'm contributing to malone reporting,fixing and adding comments to a lot of differents bugs.I'm working on a project related to my country,the edubuntu italian team,that will be related to the Ubuntu one. My future with Ubuntu is available at the bottom 11:49
Bluekujaof my wiki.11:49
Toadstooli'm so glad to be part of the ubuntu members ;)11:49
SurakToadstool: Congratulations11:49
ograBluekuja, too bad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy was wrapped11:49
Kamionwhat do the Edubuntu folk think?11:49
ograits an awesome page 11:49
=== neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp42-46.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
mdkeBluekuja has been active for a several weeks in the italian translation team. He is also looking to set out a sub-group for edubuntu within the italian team. He is very enthusiastic11:49
Bluekujatnx mdke :)11:50
KamionBluekuja is clearly trying to collect the set of team memberships11:50
SeveasBluekuja, hasn't been active for a really long time yet, but imho makes up for that with almost endless enthousiasm11:50
Bluekujahaha no11:50
mdkeKamion: yes, that is true.11:50
ograBluekuja, is a  very helpful contributor and even i'd have preferred he'd have applied in tomorrows EC meeting he has my full support11:50
LaserJockI've worked with Bluekuja a bit on the EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy wiki page and he is a real enthusiastic team player11:51
Kamionogra: would the Edubuntu council have approved him, and on what grounds?11:51
ograsine he wanted to apply lats CC already and i talked to JaneW, i think i can say that she'd support him too (in fact she stayed up long for lats CC)11:51
ogra*last11:51
=== cbx33 [n=prochat1@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
ograhe does a lot of dood documentation work, helps people with support in #edubuntu11:52
makoi recieved this before the meeting11:52
mako15:23 <cbx33> Bluekuja has been a great inspiration to my beginnings in ubuntu/edubuntu work, his enthusiasm has been fantastic, and his help on the schools advocacy project has been untiring.  Definitly a dedicated ubuntu/edubuntu contributor.  Great work Bluekuja, keep it up.11:52
ograthe EC would have approved him 11:52
mako15:24 <cbx33> thank you mako, hope to speak to you again soon11:52
=== rikai [n=kitty@pool-72-65-101-77.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting
cbx33:)11:52
Bluekujatnx cbx33 :)11:53
ogras/dood/good/11:53
cbx33i made it just :)11:53
makocbx33: what are you still doing here?11:53
cbx33i just managed to pop in on my pocket pc11:54
Kamionright, well I'm happy; constructive advocacy work, translation work, and the Edubuntu lot clearly like him11:54
ograabsolutely11:54
Seveasyay, one down 11:54
=== mako nods
makosounds fine11:55
Seveas2 down!11:55
Seveaselmo, ?11:55
elmoyeah, ack I guess11:56
ograyay11:56
ograwelcome Bluekuja 11:56
SurakBluekuja: congrats11:56
BluekujaThanks Very much11:56
Seveasgood guess ;) Welcome Bluekuja !11:56
mdkewell done Bluekuja, keep it up11:56
sfllawBluekuja: Congrats!11:56
Bluekujato all11:56
ograhappy to finally have you aboard !11:56
Toadstoolcongrats Bluekuja :)11:56
cbx33congrats11:56
BlueT_Bluekuja: congradulations :)11:56
Tonio_congrats Bluekuja11:56
ograJaneW will be pleased11:56
Bluekujaogra: thank you a lot11:56
SeveasLure, please paste the complete intro now ;)11:56
LureLuka Renko, 32, from Slovenia. SW R&D manager in my day life, hacking Kubuntu for hobby (to stay in touch with engineering work ;-)). Started to contribute when I found out it is easy to so.11:56
LureWith Dapper I started to follow Flight's and daily updates, updating my laptop t11:56
Lureesting page. As klaptop was unmaintained, I looked into getting kpowersave up-to11:56
Lure-date (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowersave), but then got distracted with wireless stuff (network-manager 0.6.x), worked on packaging knetworkmanager (and doing related bug triage on forums).11:56
LureCurrently working on bug triage and fixing on KDE code that needs love. For Edgy I would like to help getting laptop infrastructure even further for Kubuntu (hopefully drop klaptop, improve hotkeys, better integration with Ubuntu laptop base).11:56
Lure;-)11:57
KamionBluekuja: (I'd suggest concentrating on fewer teams and doing them well rather than trying to set the record for most teams joined, BTW :-))11:57
Tonio_Lure is very active in the kubuntu debugging session11:57
Bluekujakamion: thanks for the suggestion, its really appreciated11:57
Bluekuja:)11:57
Tonio_he did major stuff concerning the laptop, packaging kpowersave, and has been of a great help for the implementation of knetworkmanager11:57
ograLure is also noticeable active in #ubuntu-devel recently11:57
KamionFWIW Lure has been very helpful to me in Ubiquity bug triage work, helping me keep my head above water under the flood of mail11:57
Tonio_I definitly support his membership11:58
=== cbx33 [n=prochat1@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting []
SeveasYes, lure and ubuquity dupolicate bugs are an often-seen duo11:59
=== neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp42-46.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #ubuntu-meeting []
Seveas(and my spelling is going downhill fast, must be the new microsoft keyboard)11:59
ograSeveas, eek, now i know what you ment with evil :)11:59
elmoRiddell: any comments?11:59
Seveashehe11:59
Kamion(well, ubiquity has been setting records for duplicate bugs thanks to the crash handler - not that I'm complaining, it was sort of intentional)12:00
Tonio_he also released a great amount of patches to stabilise one of the most bugging admin tool : knetworkcong12:00
Tonio_s/cong/conf12:00
SeveasI'd love to hear some comments from core Kubuntu developers.. 12:01
elmoI don't think Riddell's around12:01
Tonio_Seveas: raphink is in germany for linuxtag, so only Riddell may talk...12:01
elmoin any event, I'm happy enough on the basis of the evidence on the wiki page12:01
elmo(i.e. ack12:01
Seveasnice, one down 12:01
=== mako nods
makoyes, lure is fine by me12:02
makolots of good stuff12:02
Kamionsorry, I pretty much meant ack above, I've been working with Lure a reasonable amount and my experiences have all been positive, plus the wiki page suggests more goodness12:02
mdkewell done Lure 12:02
mdkenice work12:02
LureThanks for support - proud to be member!12:02

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!