[08:57] <ubuntu_lt> @schedule Vilnius
[08:57] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Vilnius: 03 May 00:00: Community Council | 03 May 15:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 16:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 05:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 23:00: Technical Board | 10 May 15:00: Edubuntu
[05:49] <sfllaw> @schedule Canada/Eastern
[05:58] <ogra> sfllaw, wait until Ubugtu is back :)
[05:58] <ogra> probably Seveas didnt notice it crashed yet 
[05:58] <sfllaw> Neither did I.
[05:58] <sfllaw> :)
[06:47] <Ubugtu> Hi ogra!
[06:47] <Ubugtu> Hi sfllaw!
[09:02] <cbx33> @schedule london
[09:02] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/London: 02 May 22:00: Community Council | 03 May 13:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 14:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 03:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 21:00: Technical Board | 10 May 13:00: Edubuntu
[09:06] <Klaidas> @schedule vilnius
[09:06] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Vilnius: 03 May 00:00: Community Council | 03 May 15:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 16:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 05:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 23:00: Technical Board | 10 May 15:00: Edubuntu
[09:15] <Lure> @schedule Ljubljana
[09:15] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Ljubljana: 02 May 23:00: Community Council | 03 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 15:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 22:00: Technical Board | 10 May 14:00: Edubuntu
[09:38] <olive> @schedule paris
[09:38] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Paris: 02 May 23:00: Community Council | 03 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 15:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 22:00: Technical Board | 10 May 14:00: Edubuntu
[09:40] <Surak> ubugtu, schedule salvador
[09:40] <Ju> @schedule salvador
[09:41] <Surak> @schedule salvador
[09:41] <Ju> Surak: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=5&day=2&year=2006&hour=21&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 ;-)
[09:42] <Surak> Ju: Thanks, I noticed. I was just testing ubugtu :-)
[09:42] <Ju> ;-)
[09:43] <Surak> @schedule bahia
[09:43] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Bahia: 02 May 18:00: Community Council | 03 May 09:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 10:30: Xubuntu | 03 May 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 17:00: Technical Board | 10 May 09:00: Edubuntu
[09:44] <Surak> odd. Every place in brazil is named by city, but not salvador. The state's name is used instead.
[09:51] <simira> cc meeting in an hour?
[09:51] <sfllaw> Yes.
[10:32] <filhocf> surak: presente! ;)
[10:32] <Surak> :-)
[10:32] <Surak> Obrigado!
[10:32] <filhocf> surak: se cair,  pq a porta ssh t instvel, mas eu reconecto em seguida.
[10:32] <Surak> ok
[10:33] <filhocf> qquer coisa, me chama qdo for iniciar os "rituais". ;-)
[10:33] <Surak> tudo bem! eu grito l no icq :-)
[10:37] <Meyer> no pt_br allowed here..
[10:38] <filhocf> Meyer: sorry... i am new here... will not repeat. 
[10:43] <licio> Surak, your fun club is big
[10:44] <Surak> licio: I hope so. Quite anxious tough
[10:45] <Yann3> ahah quite unusual, a canonical employee who wants to become ubuntu member :)
[10:47] <Seveas> Yann3, noy unusual at all
[10:47] <Yann3> ah? :] 
[10:47] <Seveas> all canonical employees should be members by now
[10:47] <Seveas> well, the distro-team
[10:47] <Seveas> not all employees
[10:49] <Meyer> heya Seveas 
[10:49] <Meyer> how u doin
[10:50] <Seveas> busy 
[10:50] <Meyer> i can imagine.. 
[10:50] <Surak> Meyer, did you receive my email?
[10:50] <Toadstool> hi everybody
[10:50] <Meyer> Surak, yep
[10:50] <Meyer> Seveas, i've been busy too.. a lot of conferences around here..
[10:52] <Meyer> channell will start to fill now.. :P
[10:58] <Meyer> Seveas, time to start?
[10:58] <Meyer> ping'd everyone?
[10:58] <Kamion> (here)
[10:58] <Meyer> :)
[10:58] <Bluekuja> hi kamion
[10:58] <Bluekuja> :)
[11:00] <sfllaw> Hi everybody!
[11:00] <Bluekuja> hi sfllaw
[11:00] <Surak> Hello
[11:00] <elmo> I'm here too - mako said he was on his way home, but should be back RSN (if he isn't already)
[11:00] <Gloubiboulga> hi all
[11:00] <Tonio_> hi everyone
[11:01] <mdke> evening everyone.
[11:01] <Bluekuja> ciao matt
[11:01] <BlueT_> hi everybody
[11:01] <Bluekuja> hey BlueT_
[11:02] <BlueT_> Bluekuja: yo :D
[11:03] <Meyer> lol nice alias, Seveas 
[11:03] <Seveas> ogra, heh, so much you don't know
[11:03] <ogra> mdke, oh, right
[11:03] <ogra> Seveas, i hope i can find out in paris ;)
[11:03] <Seveas> me too
[11:04] <Seveas> gnomefreak, do you have a sec for a quick PM?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> yes sir
[11:05] <mdke> elmo: do you have a few moments before we start?
[11:05] <elmo> sabdfl sends his apologies, so once mako turns up we can get started
[11:05] <elmo> mdke: I guess
[11:05] <elmo> mdke: (not in here tho, pls)
[11:05] <elmo> unless it's CC related, of course
[11:05] <mdke> elmo: no. query
[11:06] <filhocf> is Claudio Filho (and present)
[11:07] <Seveas> @schedule 
[11:07] <Ubugtu> schedule Retrieve the date/time of scheduled meetings in a specific timezone
[11:07] <Seveas> @schedule amsterdam
[11:07] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Amsterdam: Current meeting: Community Council | 03 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 15:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 22:00: Technical Board | 10 May 14:00: Edubuntu
[11:07] <Meyer> ogra, actualy can i pvt u for a sec?
[11:07] <ogra> Meyer, sure
[11:07] <Seveas> "Edubuntu" also being "edubuntu council"?
[11:08] <azeem> ogra: do you approve members parallel or serial to the CC?
[11:08] <Bluekuja> Seveas: yes
[11:08] <ogra> Seveas, yes, we decided that every first meeting in a month is an EC meeting
[11:08] <Seveas> cool, maybe that should be made more clear on the fridge? 
[11:08] <mako> apolgies, got held up on the subway
[11:08] <mako> i'm here now
[11:08] <ogra> azeem, edubuntu membership includes ubuntu membership and vice versa
[11:08] <Seveas> welcome mako
[11:09] <azeem> ok
[11:09] <Seveas> we can start!
[11:09] <Bluekuja> hi mako
[11:09] <azeem> el mako
[11:09] <bknec_> heh
[11:09] <cbx33> hi mako 
[11:09] <ogra> azeem, its just to take the load off here a bit
[11:09] <simira> hi mako, hi seb128 
[11:10] <seb128> Hi simira
[11:10] <mdke> awesome turnout to the meeting this evening.
[11:10] <simira> mdke: we're getting there ;)
[11:10] <Seveas> mako, care to kick off the agenda? 
[11:10] <mako> sure
[11:10] <simira> it's mostly new members proposals today?
[11:10] <mako> i'm catching up now
[11:10] <mako> and thawing out my fingers
[11:11] <Seveas> we haven't started yet 
[11:11] <mako> give me one second
[11:11] <mako> yes, i know ;P
[11:12] <BlueT_> simira: i've been waiting fr it for a month :3
[11:12] <BlueT_> s/fr/for/
[11:12] <mako> alright
[11:12] <mako> agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[11:12] <mako> first up is Developer/Member governance processes
[11:13] <mdke> mdz: are you around to discuss this too?
[11:13] <mako> so you brought up a few issues here
[11:14] <mako> do you mind if i break it down
[11:14] <mdke> course not :)
[11:14] <mako> one issues seems to be that launchpad information is out of date
[11:14] <mako> there was a list i was maintaining by hand
[11:14] <mako> which i still have
[11:15] <mako> of people who had signed the CoC but they still need to go through the new process in LP
[11:15] <mako> AFAIK, there has been no systematic attempt at doing this
[11:15] <mako> there should be
[11:15] <mako> folks in core-dev should be in ubuntu-members
[11:15] <mdke> before joining core-dev?
[11:16] <mako> well, i think that the group is a subgroup of members so they are implicitly members
[11:16] <mako> is that right?
[11:16] <Kamion> there was a systematic attempt to make sure at least core uploaders had signed the CoC at the time of the switch to Soyuz, because it was a technical requirement there IIRC
[11:16] <elmo> mako: I think there should be
[11:16] <elmo> s/there/it/
[11:16] <elmo> checking
[11:16] <mako> Kamion: right, i guess i did it before then
[11:16] <mako> i noticed that i was not a member except implicitly through the CC IIRC
[11:16] <elmo> hmm, it's not
[11:17] <mdke> if that's the case (that core-dev is a subgroup of membership), it means the TB is approving them for membership as well as upload rights.
[11:17] <elmo> I think ubuntu-core-dev should be a member of ubuntu-members
[11:17] <elmo> but that'd require the TB to not jump our gun
[11:18] <mdke> which in turn would slow down the process of getting upload rights, for example for employees
[11:18] <mako> right
[11:18] <mdke> unless they were automatically members
[11:18] <mdke> that might make sense
[11:19] <Kamion> the TB conducts a reasonably detailed interview with each core-dev candidate
[11:19] <mako> right
[11:19] <Kamion> personally I could probably see my way clear to considering that sufficient to pass the bar for membership
[11:19] <mako> it's not exactly easy to get added to core-dev
[11:19] <elmo> core-dev yes
[11:19] <Kamion> ubuntu-dev would be a slightly different matter; the bar there is lower
[11:19] <elmo> -dev is a little different
[11:19] <elmo> and both ought to be members of ubuntu-members
[11:20] <Kamion> yeah
[11:20] <mako> ok
[11:20] <mako> so there's at least three issues here
[11:21] <mako> (a) how is the stated policy out of sync with LP and how do we fix it (which one do we fix)?
[11:21] <mako> (b) how should the policy/LP be changed or improved to make this work the way we think it should?
[11:21] <mako> (c) how do we get people already in the system who were grandfathered or skipped steps in one way or another to go back and check the right boxes
[11:22] <mako> honestly, (b) sounds like a paris dev summit topic
[11:23] <Seveas> (c) is part of (a) if the answer of (a) is that lp is out of sync
[11:23] <mdke> for a), you'd need to discuss with the TB about the -dev must be members thing
[11:23] <mako> right
[11:23] <mdke> that would be a change in policy, afaics
[11:23] <mdke> although, I don't attend TB meeting much
[11:24] <Kamion> if we wanted to deal with the meeting-delay problem, then the easiest approach might well be to agree some guidelines with the TB to make sure that we're happy that their ubuntu-dev procedure is at least as strong as our membership procedure
[11:25] <elmo> given we've already delegated membership privs to edubuntu, kubuntu, delegating it indirectly to the TB, doesn't sound like much of a step
[11:25] <mdke> that would be tricky to maintain consistent, IMO
[11:25] <mdke> ah, that's a good point.
[11:25] <elmo> provided, like kamion says, we ask them to step up their barrier to entry to match outs
[11:25] <simira> sounds sensible
[11:25] <elmo> and I'm still a little concerned about their Q = 2, but that's not a big deal I guess
[11:25] <mdke> nice idea.
[11:25] <elmo> s/outs/ours/
[11:26] <mdke> are the current requirements for -member status documented on the website?
[11:26] <mdke> i figure they're on the wiki somewhere
[11:27] <Seveas> mdke, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes
[11:27] <mdke> Seveas: "substantial contribution" is as far as it goes, or did I miss a page?
[11:28] <mdke> oh no, there it is, my bad
[11:28] <Seveas> "A person who wants to become a member should be engaged in a sustained level of contribution to the Ubuntu community. This can include coding, writing or documentation, the creation of art-work, music, testing, bug triage and verification, translation, advocacy, leadership of LoCo teams, etc. Contributions should be significant and visible. Anybody who is active in the Ubuntu community is a good 
[11:28] <Seveas> candidate for Ubuntu membership."
[11:28] <ompaul> mdke it is repeated here more or less  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewMemberHowto
[11:28] <mako> mdke: substantian and sustained contribution
[11:28] <mdke> yeah, my bad
[11:29] <Seveas> So: who's going to coordinate this with the TB?
[11:30] <mako> well
[11:31] <mako> there is still the issue of what happens with the current core-dev members
[11:31] <mako> who have not been put through the more rigorous process
[11:31] <mako> sorry
[11:31] <mako> the current -dev members
[11:31] <mdke> shouldn't be hard to track em down, they're all quite active
[11:31] <ajmitch> it'd only be inactive ones that may not be on launchpad
[11:31] <mako> i think we could put core-dev into members unless the tb has any reservations about any candidates
[11:31] <mako> which i suspect they do not
[11:31] <Seveas> Most of them would be no-brainers for membership and a few meetings ago it was decided that that could be done outside the meetings
[11:32] <Seveas> (core-dev)
[11:32] <Kamion> I've got no reservations about anyone in -core-dev at the moment
[11:33] <Lure> Can CC not just group approve all core-dev now?
[11:33] <Kamion> apart from that dodgy "Matt Zimmerman" block
[11:33] <Kamion> er, bloke
[11:33] <LaserJock> hehe
[11:33] <Kamion> Lure: no, people have to opt to join the team themselves, I don't know of a way to conscript people
[11:33] <Lure> Kamion: right
[11:33] <mdke> who is Chris Halls, I don't think I've met him around?
[11:33] <cbx33> my apologies, I have to dash
[11:34] <Seveas> There are 3 I haven't seen a lot (Thom May, Charles Majola and Chris Halls), but I expect you know them much better than I do
[11:34] <Kamion> mdke: haggai, used to do Kubuntu
[11:34] <mdke> what's his irc nick?
[11:34] <Kamion> and OpenOffice
[11:34] <filhocf> Chris Halls is a DD.
[11:34] <mdke> ah, gotcha
[11:34] <Kamion> Thom May is retired from Ubuntu really, dunno if he cares
[11:34] <simira> mdke: he was in Mataro, at lease
[11:34] <Kamion> Charles is one of the Impi crowd in .za
[11:34] <simira> least*
[11:34] <ogra> Kamion, you mean that opportunistic troublemaker mdz ?
[11:34] <ogra> :)
[11:34] <Kamion> ogra: right
[11:34] <dholbach> He does, I had a conversation with him already.
[11:35] <Kamion> dholbach: who?
[11:35] <dholbach> I'm referring to Thom.
[11:35] <dholbach> He'd like to get involved again, esp. with apache.
[11:35] <mdke> it would definitely be good to chase up those who haven't signed the CoC in there, and ask them to, even if they've signed it by other means
[11:35] <Kamion> dholbach: ah, cool
[11:35] <ogra> dholbach, that'd be so great !
[11:35] <mako> mdke: if you have a list, i'm happy to spam them
[11:36] <mdke> mako: alright.
[11:36] <Kamion> ok, anything else before we move on?
[11:36] <Kamion> 22:29 < Seveas> So: who's going to coordinate this with the TB?
[11:36] <Kamion> I guess
[11:37] <mdke> mdz expressed an interest, I can summarise the meeting in an email for him, if you like
[11:37] <mako> i think that's good
[11:37] <Kamion> mdke: that would be good if you're willing, please cc community-council@lists
[11:37] <mdke> i'll cc it to community-council so you can check for accuracy
[11:37] <mdke> yeah
[11:38] <Kamion> we can follow up if there are further questions, or I can talk with him on the phone, or something
[11:38] <mako> yes
[11:38] <mako> is there any other non-member business?
[11:38] <mako> before we move on to that?
[11:38] <Meyer> yes
[11:38] <mako> Meyer: shoot
[11:38] <Meyer> i'd like to bring something up
[11:38] <Meyer> i think it was mdke who wrote about Quallity Assurance in translations..
[11:39] <Meyer> and it has become a big problem..
[11:39] <Meyer> i was thinking if there are any plans to improve LP on that matter
[11:39] <Meyer> for instance, we can't know who made a bad translation
[11:39] <Seveas> Meyer: the NL team has taken a drastic approach to it: kick everyone from the team and do all via the mailinglist
[11:39] <mdke> Meyer: there has been a discuss about improving rosetta on the rosetta mailing list. The CC: can't do anything about it
[11:39] <Kamion> I'm not sure that's something any of the CC can answer; I'd suggest bringing it up on launchpad-users@lists if it hasn't been done already
[11:39] <Meyer> so it's hard to take those people out
[11:39] <Kamion> or rosetta-users@
[11:39] <Seveas> Kamion, agreed
[11:40] <simira> true
[11:40] <mdke> Kamion: it's been discussed in depth and carlos and jordi are collecting feature requests. It's difficult to do more. 
[11:40] <simira> will it be a Paris issue?
[11:40] <mdke> part of the problem lies with translation groups, I'd suggest continuing the discussion on loco-contacts
[11:40] <mako> right, this sounds like there is some missing functionality in lp
[11:40] <Meyer> ok.. thanks.. i just wanted to know how it was going on
[11:40] <Kamion> simira: Paris is for Ubuntu, not LP, afaik
[11:41] <Surak> Indeed. And there's no "default" glossary to keep translations coherent. Bug 35774
[11:41] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 35774 in rosetta "Some sort of glossary integrated to rosetta" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/35774
[11:41] <simira> *sigh* Kamion: LP improvements would support Ubuntu, right? :p
[11:41] <mdke> simira: there are separate conferences for launchpad.
[11:41] <Kamion> simira: sure, but the LP developers won't be there, for the most part
[11:41] <Lure> With Dapper I started to follow Flight's and daily updates, updating my laptop t
[11:41] <Lure> esting page. As klaptop was unmaintained, I looked into getting kpowersave up-to
[11:41] <Lure> -date (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowersave), but then got distracted with wireless stuff (network-manager 0.6.x), worked on packaging knetworkmanager (and doing related bug triage on forums).
[11:41] <Lure> sorry
[11:41] <Seveas> Lure, please wait your turn ;)
[11:41] <simira> mdke, Kamion: yesyes, I know...
[11:42] <Seveas> Shall we move on to members?
[11:42] <Kamion> yes, let's
[11:42] <mako> heh
[11:42] <mako> i think Lure has already done so
[11:42] <ogra> :)
[11:42] <Tonio_> hehe
[11:42] <Seveas> Toadstool, you're up.
[11:42] <Toadstool> thanks Seveas, hi everybody
[11:42] <Toadstool> I am Jrmie Corbier, a 21 years old french telecommunications engineering
[11:42] <Toadstool> student. I am an Ubuntu user since Warty. I spend a lot of time on irc helping
[11:42] <Toadstool> users. I am also quite used to packaging since I am the maintainer of
[11:42] <Toadstool> wide-dhcpv6 package for Debian (version 20060322-2 uploaded today) and
[11:42] <Toadstool> Ubuntu. I am a member of the Bug Squad and try to file/triage/fix as many bugs
[11:42] <Toadstool> as possible.
[11:42] <Toadstool> For the future, I want to keep on helping Ubuntu users on irc and
[11:42] <Toadstool> in real life as the community is one of the main Ubuntu strengths. I also plan
[11:42] <Toadstool> to continue helping with bugs, maybe package more applications and above all
[11:42] <Toadstool> I would like to become a MOTU and help making the future releases rock.
[11:43] <ogra> Toadstool, is very present in #ubuntu-bugs
[11:43] <Seveas> And on malone
[11:43] <Gloubiboulga> and in #ubuntu-fr{,-testing}
[11:44] <dholbach> Yeah, he's one of the assets in the BugSquad and we're all pleased to have him there.
[11:44] <Seveas> \o/ for bug triaging, he's doing a good amount of work
[11:44] <ogra> yeah
[11:44] <Toadstool> thanks guys :)
[11:45] <lucas> I've seen Jeremie working very efficiently on some bugs I didn't have time to work on
[11:46] <LaserJock> Toadstool has been contributing to #ubuntu-motu for a while now
[11:46] <Seveas> Toadstool, the CC is now scrutinizing (sp?) your wikipage - beware 
[11:46] <Toadstool> :)
[11:47] <Seveas> Toadstool, it takes them quite long. Could be bad news ;)
[11:47] <Kamion> no problems here, fwiw; I've dealt with Jeremie once or twice and he's seemed competent; testimonials are good
[11:47] <Toadstool> I'll be back :p
[11:48] <mako> yes, looks good by me
[11:48] <elmo> yeah, ack
[11:48] <Seveas> Kamion: afaik he hasn't yet closed one of your bugs by accident ;)
[11:48] <Kamion> Seveas: is that what you call it? ;)
[11:48] <Seveas> ok, that's 3
[11:48] <ogra> welcome Toadstool then :)
[11:48] <mako> Toadstool: welcome
[11:48] <Seveas> Congratulations Toadstool!
[11:48] <sfllaw> Toadstool: Congrats!
[11:48] <Gloubiboulga> Toadstool, congrats :)
[11:48] <Toadstool> thanks everybody :)
[11:48] <mdke> well done Toadstool 
[11:48] <ogra> that was really fast :)
[11:48] <Seveas> Bluekuja, you're uo
[11:48] <dholbach> CONGRATS!
[11:48] <Seveas> up even...
[11:48] <Bluekuja> ok thanks seveas
[11:49] <Bluekuja> My name is Andrea Veri and I live in Italy,im finishing high school and I'm a great Ubuntu and Free software fan. My wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndreaVeri, Launchpad one https://launchpad.net/people/bluekuja.I'm an active member of edubuntu team,contributing with advocacy(right now I'm working on a great specification, the Edubuntu Schools Advocacy Manifesto,that can be found here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuS
[11:49] <Bluekuja> choolAdvocacy) in italian schools, testing new releases and providing bugs reports for the testing team.I have made several wiki pages and a lot of translations too,also I'm contributing to malone reporting,fixing and adding comments to a lot of differents bugs.I'm working on a project related to my country,the edubuntu italian team,that will be related to the Ubuntu one. My future with Ubuntu is available at the bottom 
[11:49] <Bluekuja> of my wiki.
[11:49] <Toadstool> i'm so glad to be part of the ubuntu members ;)
[11:49] <Surak> Toadstool: Congratulations
[11:49] <ogra> Bluekuja, too bad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy was wrapped
[11:49] <Kamion> what do the Edubuntu folk think?
[11:49] <ogra> its an awesome page 
[11:49] <mdke> Bluekuja has been active for a several weeks in the italian translation team. He is also looking to set out a sub-group for edubuntu within the italian team. He is very enthusiastic
[11:50] <Bluekuja> tnx mdke :)
[11:50] <Kamion> Bluekuja is clearly trying to collect the set of team memberships
[11:50] <Seveas> Bluekuja, hasn't been active for a really long time yet, but imho makes up for that with almost endless enthousiasm
[11:50] <Bluekuja> haha no
[11:50] <mdke> Kamion: yes, that is true.
[11:50] <ogra> Bluekuja, is a  very helpful contributor and even i'd have preferred he'd have applied in tomorrows EC meeting he has my full support
[11:51] <LaserJock> I've worked with Bluekuja a bit on the EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy wiki page and he is a real enthusiastic team player
[11:51] <Kamion> ogra: would the Edubuntu council have approved him, and on what grounds?
[11:51] <ogra> sine he wanted to apply lats CC already and i talked to JaneW, i think i can say that she'd support him too (in fact she stayed up long for lats CC)
[11:51] <ogra> *last
[11:52] <ogra> he does a lot of dood documentation work, helps people with support in #edubuntu
[11:52] <mako> i recieved this before the meeting
[11:52] <mako> 15:23 <cbx33> Bluekuja has been a great inspiration to my beginnings in ubuntu/edubuntu work, his enthusiasm has been fantastic, and his help on the schools advocacy project has been untiring.  Definitly a dedicated ubuntu/edubuntu contributor.  Great work Bluekuja, keep it up.
[11:52] <ogra> the EC would have approved him 
[11:52] <mako> 15:24 <cbx33> thank you mako, hope to speak to you again soon
[11:52] <cbx33> :)
[11:53] <Bluekuja> tnx cbx33 :)
[11:53] <ogra> s/dood/good/
[11:53] <cbx33> i made it just :)
[11:53] <mako> cbx33: what are you still doing here?
[11:54] <cbx33> i just managed to pop in on my pocket pc
[11:54] <Kamion> right, well I'm happy; constructive advocacy work, translation work, and the Edubuntu lot clearly like him
[11:54] <ogra> absolutely
[11:54] <Seveas> yay, one down 
[11:55] <mako> sounds fine
[11:55] <Seveas> 2 down!
[11:55] <Seveas> elmo, ?
[11:56] <elmo> yeah, ack I guess
[11:56] <ogra> yay
[11:56] <ogra> welcome Bluekuja 
[11:56] <Surak> Bluekuja: congrats
[11:56] <Bluekuja> Thanks Very much
[11:56] <Seveas> good guess ;) Welcome Bluekuja !
[11:56] <mdke> well done Bluekuja, keep it up
[11:56] <sfllaw> Bluekuja: Congrats!
[11:56] <Bluekuja> to all
[11:56] <ogra> happy to finally have you aboard !
[11:56] <Toadstool> congrats Bluekuja :)
[11:56] <cbx33> congrats
[11:56] <BlueT_> Bluekuja: congradulations :)
[11:56] <Tonio_> congrats Bluekuja
[11:56] <ogra> JaneW will be pleased
[11:56] <Bluekuja> ogra: thank you a lot
[11:56] <Seveas> Lure, please paste the complete intro now ;)
[11:56] <Lure> Luka Renko, 32, from Slovenia. SW R&D manager in my day life, hacking Kubuntu for hobby (to stay in touch with engineering work ;-)). Started to contribute when I found out it is easy to so.
[11:56] <Lure> With Dapper I started to follow Flight's and daily updates, updating my laptop t
[11:56] <Lure> esting page. As klaptop was unmaintained, I looked into getting kpowersave up-to
[11:56] <Lure> -date (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowersave), but then got distracted with wireless stuff (network-manager 0.6.x), worked on packaging knetworkmanager (and doing related bug triage on forums).
[11:56] <Lure> Currently working on bug triage and fixing on KDE code that needs love. For Edgy I would like to help getting laptop infrastructure even further for Kubuntu (hopefully drop klaptop, improve hotkeys, better integration with Ubuntu laptop base).
[11:57] <Lure> ;-)
[11:57] <Kamion> Bluekuja: (I'd suggest concentrating on fewer teams and doing them well rather than trying to set the record for most teams joined, BTW :-))
[11:57] <Tonio_> Lure is very active in the kubuntu debugging session
[11:57] <Bluekuja> kamion: thanks for the suggestion, its really appreciated
[11:57] <Bluekuja> :)
[11:57] <Tonio_> he did major stuff concerning the laptop, packaging kpowersave, and has been of a great help for the implementation of knetworkmanager
[11:57] <ogra> Lure is also noticeable active in #ubuntu-devel recently
[11:57] <Kamion> FWIW Lure has been very helpful to me in Ubiquity bug triage work, helping me keep my head above water under the flood of mail
[11:58] <Tonio_> I definitly support his membership
[11:59] <Seveas> Yes, lure and ubuquity dupolicate bugs are an often-seen duo
[11:59] <Seveas> (and my spelling is going downhill fast, must be the new microsoft keyboard)
[11:59] <ogra> Seveas, eek, now i know what you ment with evil :)
[11:59] <elmo> Riddell: any comments?
[11:59] <Seveas> hehe
[12:00] <Kamion> (well, ubiquity has been setting records for duplicate bugs thanks to the crash handler - not that I'm complaining, it was sort of intentional)
[12:00] <Tonio_> he also released a great amount of patches to stabilise one of the most bugging admin tool : knetworkcong
[12:00] <Tonio_> s/cong/conf
[12:01] <Seveas> I'd love to hear some comments from core Kubuntu developers.. 
[12:01] <elmo> I don't think Riddell's around
[12:01] <Tonio_> Seveas: raphink is in germany for linuxtag, so only Riddell may talk...
[12:01] <elmo> in any event, I'm happy enough on the basis of the evidence on the wiki page
[12:01] <elmo> (i.e. ack
[12:01] <Seveas> nice, one down 
[12:02] <mako> yes, lure is fine by me
[12:02] <mako> lots of good stuff
[12:02] <Kamion> sorry, I pretty much meant ack above, I've been working with Lure a reasonable amount and my experiences have all been positive, plus the wiki page suggests more goodness
[12:02] <mdke> well done Lure 
[12:02] <mdke> nice work
[12:02] <Lure> Thanks for support - proud to be member!