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[05:49] @schedule Canada/Eastern === mako__ [n=mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:58] sfllaw, wait until Ubugtu is back :) [05:58] probably Seveas didnt notice it crashed yet [05:58] Neither did I. [05:58] :) === cassidy [n=gdesmott@di-pc21.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === chombee [i=seanh@otaku.freeshell.ORG] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=nico@p508D9E9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === vuntz [n=vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #Ubuntu-meeting [06:47] Hi ogra! 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I was just testing ubugtu :-) [09:42] ;-) [09:43] @schedule bahia [09:43] Schedule for America/Bahia: 02 May 18:00: Community Council | 03 May 09:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 10:30: Xubuntu | 03 May 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 17:00: Technical Board | 10 May 09:00: Edubuntu [09:44] odd. Every place in brazil is named by city, but not salvador. The state's name is used instead. === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:51] cc meeting in an hour? [09:51] Yes. === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === alef0 [i=alef0@M941P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@unaffiliated/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jimbob [n=542deec3@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=nico@p508D9E9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Surak [n=Surak@201009098083.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === filhocf [n=Claudio_@200.101.7.194] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:32] surak: presente! ;) [10:32] :-) [10:32] Obrigado! [10:32] surak: se cair, pq a porta ssh t instvel, mas eu reconecto em seguida. [10:32] ok [10:33] qquer coisa, me chama qdo for iniciar os "rituais". ;-) [10:33] tudo bem! eu grito l no icq :-) [10:37] no pt_br allowed here.. [10:38] Meyer: sorry... i am new here... will not repeat. === KurtKraut [n=ktk@tor/session/external/x-8fea18549379efb8] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:43] Surak, your fun club is big [10:44] licio: I hope so. Quite anxious tough [10:45] ahah quite unusual, a canonical employee who wants to become ubuntu member :) === Dilago [n=dilago@201.19.253.10] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:47] Yann3, noy unusual at all [10:47] ah? :] [10:47] all canonical employees should be members by now [10:47] well, the distro-team [10:47] not all employees === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:49] heya Seveas [10:49] how u doin [10:50] busy [10:50] i can imagine.. [10:50] Meyer, did you receive my email? [10:50] hi everybody [10:50] Surak, yep === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Community Council | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 03 May 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 03 May 13:30 UTC: Xubuntu | 04 May 02:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 10 May 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu [10:50] Seveas, i've been busy too.. a lot of conferences around here.. === bknec_ [n=bknec@user122.217-10-115.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:52] channell will start to fill now.. :P === nalioth [n=nalioth@ubuntu/member/pdpc.bronze.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === olemke [n=olemke@p5489533C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mc44 [n=rddpo@80-42-147-55.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:58] Seveas, time to start? [10:58] ping'd everyone? [10:58] (here) [10:58] :) [10:58] hi kamion [10:58] :) === iegary [n=gary@cpc1-inch2-4-1-cust132.dbln.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Meyer is Mario Meyer [11:00] Hi everybody! [11:00] hi sfllaw [11:00] Hello === TobSiCret [n=tobias@hnvr-d9b8ebb4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:00] I'm here too - mako said he was on his way home, but should be back RSN (if he isn't already) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:00] hi all [11:00] hi everyone === nalioth is Marek Spruell [11:01] evening everyone. === Surak is Alexandre Otto Strube [11:01] ciao matt === Ju is Julien Rottenberg === azeem is Michael Banck === Lure is Luka Renko === ogra is Oliver Grawert === sfllaw is Simon Law. === iegary is Gary Coady [11:01] hi everybody === cbx33 is Pete Savage [11:01] hey BlueT_ === bimberi is David Symons === Toadstool is Jrmie Corbier === dsas is Dean Sas [11:02] Bluekuja: yo :D === Seveas is Dennis "Evil Bastard" Kaarsemaker === licio is Licio Fernando === dholbach is Daniel Holbach === Gloubiboulga is Gauvain Pocentek === mvo michael vogt [11:03] lol nice alias, Seveas === simira is Karianne Grnningster === ogra fails to see the evil part in Seveas === mdke points [11:03] ogra, heh, so much you don't know === LaserJock is Jordan (Mr. Science) Mantha [11:03] mdke, oh, right [11:03] Seveas, i hope i can find out in paris ;) [11:03] me too === ompaul is Paul O'Malley === Tonio_ is anthony mercatante === gnomefreak is John Vivirito === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host199-235.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] [11:04] gnomefreak, do you have a sec for a quick PM? === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host199-235.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:04] yes sir === lucas is Lucas Nussbaum === Bluekuja is Andrea Veri [11:05] elmo: do you have a few moments before we start? [11:05] sabdfl sends his apologies, so once mako turns up we can get started === BlueT_ is Matthew Lien [11:05] mdke: I guess [11:05] mdke: (not in here tho, pls) === FLeiXiuS [n=fleixius@c-68-50-206-161.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:05] unless it's CC related, of course [11:05] elmo: no. query [11:06] is Claudio Filho (and present) === ogra would like to point out that the edubuntu council will hold its first meeting tomorrow, we'll also approve members as the CC will, so if you are involved in edubuntu, please apply there to take the load off the CC (membership is the same as approved by CC) === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:07] @schedule [11:07] schedule Retrieve the date/time of scheduled meetings in a specific timezone === Yann3 is Yann Hamon [11:07] @schedule amsterdam [11:07] Schedule for Europe/Amsterdam: Current meeting: Community Council | 03 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 15:30: Xubuntu | 04 May 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 22:00: Technical Board | 10 May 14:00: Edubuntu [11:07] ogra, actualy can i pvt u for a sec? [11:07] Meyer, sure [11:07] "Edubuntu" also being "edubuntu council"? [11:08] ogra: do you approve members parallel or serial to the CC? [11:08] Seveas: yes [11:08] Seveas, yes, we decided that every first meeting in a month is an EC meeting === Yann3 is now known as Yann2 [11:08] cool, maybe that should be made more clear on the fridge? [11:08] apolgies, got held up on the subway [11:08] i'm here now [11:08] azeem, edubuntu membership includes ubuntu membership and vice versa [11:08] welcome mako === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:09] ok [11:09] we can start! [11:09] hi mako [11:09] el mako [11:09] heh === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:09] hi mako [11:09] azeem, its just to take the load off here a bit [11:09] hi mako, hi seb128 [11:10] Hi simira [11:10] awesome turnout to the meeting this evening. [11:10] mdke: we're getting there ;) [11:10] mako, care to kick off the agenda? [11:10] sure [11:10] it's mostly new members proposals today? [11:10] i'm catching up now [11:10] and thawing out my fingers [11:11] we haven't started yet [11:11] give me one second [11:11] yes, i know ;P === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4207973.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:12] simira: i've been waiting fr it for a month :3 [11:12] s/fr/for/ [11:12] alright [11:12] agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda [11:12] first up is Developer/Member governance processes [11:13] mdz: are you around to discuss this too? [11:13] so you brought up a few issues here === chombee [i=seanh@ukato.freeshell.ORG] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:14] do you mind if i break it down [11:14] course not :) [11:14] one issues seems to be that launchpad information is out of date [11:14] there was a list i was maintaining by hand [11:14] which i still have [11:15] of people who had signed the CoC but they still need to go through the new process in LP [11:15] AFAIK, there has been no systematic attempt at doing this [11:15] there should be === bugman [n=bugman@host-84-221-9-20.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:15] folks in core-dev should be in ubuntu-members [11:15] before joining core-dev? [11:16] well, i think that the group is a subgroup of members so they are implicitly members [11:16] is that right? [11:16] there was a systematic attempt to make sure at least core uploaders had signed the CoC at the time of the switch to Soyuz, because it was a technical requirement there IIRC [11:16] mako: I think there should be [11:16] s/there/it/ [11:16] checking === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:16] Kamion: right, i guess i did it before then [11:16] i noticed that i was not a member except implicitly through the CC IIRC [11:16] hmm, it's not [11:17] if that's the case (that core-dev is a subgroup of membership), it means the TB is approving them for membership as well as upload rights. [11:17] I think ubuntu-core-dev should be a member of ubuntu-members [11:17] but that'd require the TB to not jump our gun === Willhunting [n=Will@lns-bzn-39-82-255-63-252.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:18] which in turn would slow down the process of getting upload rights, for example for employees [11:18] right [11:18] unless they were automatically members [11:18] that might make sense [11:19] the TB conducts a reasonably detailed interview with each core-dev candidate [11:19] right [11:19] personally I could probably see my way clear to considering that sufficient to pass the bar for membership [11:19] it's not exactly easy to get added to core-dev [11:19] core-dev yes [11:19] ubuntu-dev would be a slightly different matter; the bar there is lower [11:19] -dev is a little different [11:19] and both ought to be members of ubuntu-members === mako nods to elmo [11:20] yeah [11:20] ok [11:20] so there's at least three issues here [11:21] (a) how is the stated policy out of sync with LP and how do we fix it (which one do we fix)? [11:21] (b) how should the policy/LP be changed or improved to make this work the way we think it should? [11:21] (c) how do we get people already in the system who were grandfathered or skipped steps in one way or another to go back and check the right boxes [11:22] honestly, (b) sounds like a paris dev summit topic [11:23] (c) is part of (a) if the answer of (a) is that lp is out of sync === skateinmars [n=skateinm@arl13-1-82-240-6-242.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:23] for a), you'd need to discuss with the TB about the -dev must be members thing [11:23] right [11:23] that would be a change in policy, afaics [11:23] although, I don't attend TB meeting much [11:24] if we wanted to deal with the meeting-delay problem, then the easiest approach might well be to agree some guidelines with the TB to make sure that we're happy that their ubuntu-dev procedure is at least as strong as our membership procedure === _jason [n=jasonr@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mako nods to Kamion === Sanne [n=Sanne@p548D80CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:25] given we've already delegated membership privs to edubuntu, kubuntu, delegating it indirectly to the TB, doesn't sound like much of a step [11:25] that would be tricky to maintain consistent, IMO [11:25] ah, that's a good point. [11:25] provided, like kamion says, we ask them to step up their barrier to entry to match outs === mako nods to elmo [11:25] sounds sensible [11:25] and I'm still a little concerned about their Q = 2, but that's not a big deal I guess [11:25] nice idea. [11:25] s/outs/ours/ === bugman [n=bugman@host-84-221-9-20.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [11:26] are the current requirements for -member status documented on the website? [11:26] i figure they're on the wiki somewhere [11:27] mdke, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes [11:27] Seveas: "substantial contribution" is as far as it goes, or did I miss a page? [11:28] oh no, there it is, my bad [11:28] "A person who wants to become a member should be engaged in a sustained level of contribution to the Ubuntu community. This can include coding, writing or documentation, the creation of art-work, music, testing, bug triage and verification, translation, advocacy, leadership of LoCo teams, etc. Contributions should be significant and visible. Anybody who is active in the Ubuntu community is a good [11:28] candidate for Ubuntu membership." [11:28] mdke it is repeated here more or less https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewMemberHowto [11:28] mdke: substantian and sustained contribution [11:28] yeah, my bad [11:29] So: who's going to coordinate this with the TB? [11:30] well [11:31] there is still the issue of what happens with the current core-dev members [11:31] who have not been put through the more rigorous process [11:31] sorry [11:31] the current -dev members [11:31] shouldn't be hard to track em down, they're all quite active [11:31] it'd only be inactive ones that may not be on launchpad [11:31] i think we could put core-dev into members unless the tb has any reservations about any candidates [11:31] which i suspect they do not [11:31] Most of them would be no-brainers for membership and a few meetings ago it was decided that that could be done outside the meetings [11:32] (core-dev) [11:32] I've got no reservations about anyone in -core-dev at the moment === mako nods to Kamion [11:33] Can CC not just group approve all core-dev now? [11:33] apart from that dodgy "Matt Zimmerman" block [11:33] er, bloke [11:33] hehe [11:33] Lure: no, people have to opt to join the team themselves, I don't know of a way to conscript people [11:33] Kamion: right [11:33] who is Chris Halls, I don't think I've met him around? [11:33] my apologies, I have to dash [11:34] There are 3 I haven't seen a lot (Thom May, Charles Majola and Chris Halls), but I expect you know them much better than I do [11:34] mdke: haggai, used to do Kubuntu [11:34] what's his irc nick? [11:34] and OpenOffice [11:34] Chris Halls is a DD. [11:34] ah, gotcha [11:34] Thom May is retired from Ubuntu really, dunno if he cares [11:34] mdke: he was in Mataro, at lease [11:34] Charles is one of the Impi crowd in .za [11:34] least* [11:34] Kamion, you mean that opportunistic troublemaker mdz ? [11:34] :) [11:34] ogra: right [11:34] He does, I had a conversation with him already. [11:35] dholbach: who? [11:35] I'm referring to Thom. [11:35] He'd like to get involved again, esp. with apache. [11:35] it would definitely be good to chase up those who haven't signed the CoC in there, and ask them to, even if they've signed it by other means [11:35] dholbach: ah, cool [11:35] dholbach, that'd be so great ! === mako nods to mdke [11:35] mdke: if you have a list, i'm happy to spam them [11:36] mako: alright. [11:36] ok, anything else before we move on? [11:36] 22:29 < Seveas> So: who's going to coordinate this with the TB? [11:36] I guess [11:37] mdz expressed an interest, I can summarise the meeting in an email for him, if you like [11:37] i think that's good === mako nods to mdke [11:37] mdke: that would be good if you're willing, please cc community-council@lists [11:37] i'll cc it to community-council so you can check for accuracy === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:37] yeah [11:38] we can follow up if there are further questions, or I can talk with him on the phone, or something [11:38] yes [11:38] is there any other non-member business? [11:38] before we move on to that? [11:38] yes [11:38] Meyer: shoot [11:38] i'd like to bring something up [11:38] i think it was mdke who wrote about Quallity Assurance in translations.. [11:39] and it has become a big problem.. === simira agrees, we need a solution to that [11:39] i was thinking if there are any plans to improve LP on that matter [11:39] for instance, we can't know who made a bad translation [11:39] Meyer: the NL team has taken a drastic approach to it: kick everyone from the team and do all via the mailinglist [11:39] Meyer: there has been a discuss about improving rosetta on the rosetta mailing list. The CC: can't do anything about it [11:39] I'm not sure that's something any of the CC can answer; I'd suggest bringing it up on launchpad-users@lists if it hasn't been done already [11:39] so it's hard to take those people out [11:39] or rosetta-users@ [11:39] Kamion, agreed [11:40] true [11:40] Kamion: it's been discussed in depth and carlos and jordi are collecting feature requests. It's difficult to do more. [11:40] will it be a Paris issue? [11:40] part of the problem lies with translation groups, I'd suggest continuing the discussion on loco-contacts [11:40] right, this sounds like there is some missing functionality in lp [11:40] ok.. thanks.. i just wanted to know how it was going on [11:40] simira: Paris is for Ubuntu, not LP, afaik [11:41] Indeed. And there's no "default" glossary to keep translations coherent. Bug 35774 [11:41] Malone bug 35774 in rosetta "Some sort of glossary integrated to rosetta" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35774 [11:41] *sigh* Kamion: LP improvements would support Ubuntu, right? :p [11:41] simira: there are separate conferences for launchpad. [11:41] simira: sure, but the LP developers won't be there, for the most part === jarufe [n=jarufe@pc-155-140-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:41] With Dapper I started to follow Flight's and daily updates, updating my laptop t [11:41] esting page. As klaptop was unmaintained, I looked into getting kpowersave up-to [11:41] -date (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowersave), but then got distracted with wireless stuff (network-manager 0.6.x), worked on packaging knetworkmanager (and doing related bug triage on forums). [11:41] sorry === Kamion spots an itchy mouse finger [11:41] Lure, please wait your turn ;) [11:41] mdke, Kamion: yesyes, I know... [11:42] Shall we move on to members? [11:42] yes, let's [11:42] heh [11:42] i think Lure has already done so [11:42] :) [11:42] hehe [11:42] Toadstool, you're up. [11:42] thanks Seveas, hi everybody [11:42] I am Jrmie Corbier, a 21 years old french telecommunications engineering [11:42] student. I am an Ubuntu user since Warty. I spend a lot of time on irc helping [11:42] users. I am also quite used to packaging since I am the maintainer of [11:42] wide-dhcpv6 package for Debian (version 20060322-2 uploaded today) and [11:42] Ubuntu. I am a member of the Bug Squad and try to file/triage/fix as many bugs [11:42] as possible. [11:42] For the future, I want to keep on helping Ubuntu users on irc and [11:42] in real life as the community is one of the main Ubuntu strengths. I also plan [11:42] to continue helping with bugs, maybe package more applications and above all [11:42] I would like to become a MOTU and help making the future releases rock. [11:43] Toadstool, is very present in #ubuntu-bugs [11:43] And on malone [11:43] and in #ubuntu-fr{,-testing} [11:44] Yeah, he's one of the assets in the BugSquad and we're all pleased to have him there. [11:44] \o/ for bug triaging, he's doing a good amount of work [11:44] yeah [11:44] thanks guys :) === dholbach hugs Toadstool === TobSiCret [n=tobias@hnvr-d9b8ebb4.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] [11:45] I've seen Jeremie working very efficiently on some bugs I didn't have time to work on [11:46] Toadstool has been contributing to #ubuntu-motu for a while now [11:46] Toadstool, the CC is now scrutinizing (sp?) your wikipage - beware [11:46] :) [11:47] Toadstool, it takes them quite long. Could be bad news ;) [11:47] no problems here, fwiw; I've dealt with Jeremie once or twice and he's seemed competent; testimonials are good [11:47] I'll be back :p [11:48] yes, looks good by me [11:48] yeah, ack [11:48] Kamion: afaik he hasn't yet closed one of your bugs by accident ;) [11:48] Seveas: is that what you call it? ;) [11:48] ok, that's 3 [11:48] welcome Toadstool then :) [11:48] Toadstool: welcome [11:48] Congratulations Toadstool! [11:48] Toadstool: Congrats! [11:48] Toadstool, congrats :) [11:48] thanks everybody :) [11:48] well done Toadstool [11:48] that was really fast :) [11:48] Bluekuja, you're uo [11:48] CONGRATS! [11:48] up even... [11:48] ok thanks seveas [11:49] My name is Andrea Veri and I live in Italy,im finishing high school and I'm a great Ubuntu and Free software fan. My wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndreaVeri, Launchpad one https://launchpad.net/people/bluekuja.I'm an active member of edubuntu team,contributing with advocacy(right now I'm working on a great specification, the Edubuntu Schools Advocacy Manifesto,that can be found here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuS [11:49] choolAdvocacy) in italian schools, testing new releases and providing bugs reports for the testing team.I have made several wiki pages and a lot of translations too,also I'm contributing to malone reporting,fixing and adding comments to a lot of differents bugs.I'm working on a project related to my country,the edubuntu italian team,that will be related to the Ubuntu one. My future with Ubuntu is available at the bottom [11:49] of my wiki. [11:49] i'm so glad to be part of the ubuntu members ;) [11:49] Toadstool: Congratulations [11:49] Bluekuja, too bad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy was wrapped [11:49] what do the Edubuntu folk think? [11:49] its an awesome page === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp42-46.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:49] Bluekuja has been active for a several weeks in the italian translation team. He is also looking to set out a sub-group for edubuntu within the italian team. He is very enthusiastic [11:50] tnx mdke :) [11:50] Bluekuja is clearly trying to collect the set of team memberships [11:50] Bluekuja, hasn't been active for a really long time yet, but imho makes up for that with almost endless enthousiasm [11:50] haha no [11:50] Kamion: yes, that is true. [11:50] Bluekuja, is a very helpful contributor and even i'd have preferred he'd have applied in tomorrows EC meeting he has my full support [11:51] I've worked with Bluekuja a bit on the EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy wiki page and he is a real enthusiastic team player [11:51] ogra: would the Edubuntu council have approved him, and on what grounds? [11:51] sine he wanted to apply lats CC already and i talked to JaneW, i think i can say that she'd support him too (in fact she stayed up long for lats CC) [11:51] *last === cbx33 [n=prochat1@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:52] he does a lot of dood documentation work, helps people with support in #edubuntu [11:52] i recieved this before the meeting [11:52] 15:23 Bluekuja has been a great inspiration to my beginnings in ubuntu/edubuntu work, his enthusiasm has been fantastic, and his help on the schools advocacy project has been untiring. Definitly a dedicated ubuntu/edubuntu contributor. Great work Bluekuja, keep it up. [11:52] the EC would have approved him [11:52] 15:24 thank you mako, hope to speak to you again soon === rikai [n=kitty@pool-72-65-101-77.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:52] :) [11:53] tnx cbx33 :) [11:53] s/dood/good/ [11:53] i made it just :) [11:53] cbx33: what are you still doing here? [11:54] i just managed to pop in on my pocket pc [11:54] right, well I'm happy; constructive advocacy work, translation work, and the Edubuntu lot clearly like him [11:54] absolutely [11:54] yay, one down === mako nods [11:55] sounds fine [11:55] 2 down! [11:55] elmo, ? [11:56] yeah, ack I guess [11:56] yay [11:56] welcome Bluekuja [11:56] Bluekuja: congrats [11:56] Thanks Very much [11:56] good guess ;) Welcome Bluekuja ! [11:56] well done Bluekuja, keep it up [11:56] Bluekuja: Congrats! [11:56] to all [11:56] happy to finally have you aboard ! [11:56] congrats Bluekuja :) [11:56] congrats [11:56] Bluekuja: congradulations :) [11:56] congrats Bluekuja [11:56] JaneW will be pleased [11:56] ogra: thank you a lot [11:56] Lure, please paste the complete intro now ;) [11:56] Luka Renko, 32, from Slovenia. SW R&D manager in my day life, hacking Kubuntu for hobby (to stay in touch with engineering work ;-)). Started to contribute when I found out it is easy to so. [11:56] With Dapper I started to follow Flight's and daily updates, updating my laptop t [11:56] esting page. As klaptop was unmaintained, I looked into getting kpowersave up-to [11:56] -date (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowersave), but then got distracted with wireless stuff (network-manager 0.6.x), worked on packaging knetworkmanager (and doing related bug triage on forums). [11:56] Currently working on bug triage and fixing on KDE code that needs love. For Edgy I would like to help getting laptop infrastructure even further for Kubuntu (hopefully drop klaptop, improve hotkeys, better integration with Ubuntu laptop base). [11:57] ;-) [11:57] Bluekuja: (I'd suggest concentrating on fewer teams and doing them well rather than trying to set the record for most teams joined, BTW :-)) [11:57] Lure is very active in the kubuntu debugging session [11:57] kamion: thanks for the suggestion, its really appreciated [11:57] :) [11:57] he did major stuff concerning the laptop, packaging kpowersave, and has been of a great help for the implementation of knetworkmanager [11:57] Lure is also noticeable active in #ubuntu-devel recently [11:57] FWIW Lure has been very helpful to me in Ubiquity bug triage work, helping me keep my head above water under the flood of mail [11:58] I definitly support his membership === cbx33 [n=prochat1@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [11:59] Yes, lure and ubuquity dupolicate bugs are an often-seen duo === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp42-46.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [11:59] (and my spelling is going downhill fast, must be the new microsoft keyboard) [11:59] Seveas, eek, now i know what you ment with evil :) [11:59] Riddell: any comments? [11:59] hehe [12:00] (well, ubiquity has been setting records for duplicate bugs thanks to the crash handler - not that I'm complaining, it was sort of intentional) [12:00] he also released a great amount of patches to stabilise one of the most bugging admin tool : knetworkcong [12:00] s/cong/conf [12:01] I'd love to hear some comments from core Kubuntu developers.. [12:01] I don't think Riddell's around [12:01] Seveas: raphink is in germany for linuxtag, so only Riddell may talk... [12:01] in any event, I'm happy enough on the basis of the evidence on the wiki page [12:01] (i.e. ack [12:01] nice, one down === mako nods [12:02] yes, lure is fine by me [12:02] lots of good stuff [12:02] sorry, I pretty much meant ack above, I've been working with Lure a reasonable amount and my experiences have all been positive, plus the wiki page suggests more goodness [12:02] well done Lure [12:02] nice work [12:02] Thanks for support - proud to be member!