[12:03] Lure: ;) [12:03] Tonio_: thanks for being there! [12:03] I couldn't do more to support you I think :) [12:03] Lure: pleasure :) === My8os [n=My8os@ppp121-237.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [12:13] Tonio_: I'm glad to hear that it is all work smoothly now. (no, I haven't touched systemsettings windows sizes recently). [12:14] Sime: something changed with this nights update.... [12:14] Sime: I assumed it was you, but maybe that just new pykde === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@222.33.71.21] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === MidMark [n=MidMark@host-84-221-70-61.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.34.89] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:37] hello ... the systray applet is in kdelibs right ? [01:38] probably, why? [01:39] or kdelibs has the part, and kdebase as it as the app [01:39] apokryphos: well, did a user testing session today ... and he found it difficult to identify the 'system tray' in the panel [01:39] apokryphos: so, i wanted to add some color to the background to differentiate it [01:39] really? :/ [01:39] it's pretty distinct [01:40] no it isnt ... the contrast is too low [01:40] they wondered if the clock was in the tray as well [01:40] not that I'm convinced that it should be differentiated from the rest of the panel, or the desktop itself [01:40] that's kind of what's going to be plasma's aim :P [01:40] insanekane: seperators make that an obvious no [01:40] apokryphos: yes ... but try writing a manual about what the system tray is :) [01:41] easy, put a screenshot and/or a description [01:41] apokryphos: well, in my distro (derivative of kubuntu), i've removed the applet handles [01:41] in between where your minimised apps go and the clock [01:41] insanekane: that's probably a stronger reason for why they don't differentiate it :P [01:41] apokryphos: :) [01:42] apokryphos: users, dumb users ;) [01:42] don't presume users are dumb, as old Linus says :P [01:42] apokryphos: but really, they did find it difficult ... they didnt understand applet handles either, so, i had to remove them [01:42] apokryphos: it was a joke :) ... my aim is to make it easier for them [01:42] ;-) [01:43] apokryphos: after all, i'm from a community that left agriculture as the only profession only some 50 years ago :P [01:43] heh [01:43] not hard to sympathise when I consider my mother :O [01:43] hmm yes :) === apokryphos chuckles at the thought [01:43] so, thats why i asked about the systray [01:45] it'd all be under kicker, I'd imagine [01:45] apokryphos: oh, btw, the 'users' who were tested and/or testing the system ... they are very experienced linguists ... so it is not exactly a 'dumb' user here [01:45] indeed [01:45] I consider my mother very intelligent, but absolutely awful with computers :P [01:45] :) [01:46] apokryphos: so, how would you define the 'system tray' ? [01:46] my friend told me an interesting story the other day, where his dad (a *very* highly paid surgeon, intelligent) called him from upstairs to ask him where a given key was (I think it was P) :P [01:46] LOL [01:47] help:/kicker/systemtray-applet.html === je4d [n=jeff@kde/developer/je4d] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:47] apokryphos: great :P [01:47] apokryphos: our definition is about 3 lines longer :) [01:48] screenshots are always good though [01:49] yeah, will be providing screenshots, and thick red lines demarcating the systray (just as most other parts of the desktop) ... but it would be better to have a little bit more contrast [01:50] apokryphos: ok, thanks for your help ... cya later. gnite! 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[09:11] Hobbsee: I think so [09:11] oh good :) [09:11] Hobbsee: would be odd of there were no pictues [09:11] Hobbsee: I left yesterday night, since I have obligations at uni. I'll be back on friday, though [09:11] Hobbsee: but ken is there [09:11] ah ok, cool === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === danimo feels like being hit by a train, though [09:15] heh...well that's always fun, you know :P [09:15] Hobbsee: I basically spent the last day setting up three boothes [09:16] Hobbsee: and then running to catch my train [09:16] very ouch. [09:16] Hobbsee: I returned home by 1:30am, and had to get up at 6:30 [09:16] icky [09:17] fortunately, there is caffeine to at least keep me awake === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-20-213.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-20-213.singnet.com.sg] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-20-213.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-255-49.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:34] Riddell: QT# would be a decent SoC idea [09:35] pyi: was that a katakana char. being improvised as a smiley? ;) === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:36] sorry, omitted the g... [09:36] yes, yes, whatever the katakana char is (altought few people already told me that) [09:36] pygi: i think it tsu... [09:38] heh [09:38] whatever that is === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Everyone should be on the look out for regressions w.r.t. buttons in systemsettngs. || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLinuxTag2006 || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUbiquity || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meetings in #ubuntu-meeting -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- Next meeting is 05/11/06 2100 UTC === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Tue May 2 13:16:42 2006 === Huahua [n=hua_@222.50.182.106] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:01] Riddell, ping === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === morgs [n=morganc@www2a.your-server.co.za] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ is now known as Lure === pef_aw is now known as pef === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef is now known as pef_aw === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@222.33.71.21] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:43] viviersf: hi [01:43] my ISP is broken today, I only have 6 minutes of access from the library [01:43] sigh [01:44] in south africa that happens most of the time ^_^ === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:44] Riddell: hi [01:45] eww [01:55] Riddell: when will the next kubuntu-meeting be? [01:56] Next meeting is 05/11/06 2100 UTC [01:56] hm, November? === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Everyone should be on the look out for regressions w.r.t. buttons in systemsettngs. || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLinuxTag2006 || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUbiquity || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meetings in #ubuntu-meeting -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- Next meeting is 11/05/06 2100 UTC [01:56] 11th May [01:57] Riddell: thanks [02:00] Riddell: hello :) I tried checking the Ubuntu OEM Installer, but i think it'd wipe out my harddisk(or it is only meant for clean HDs)... am I right? [02:01] abattoir: could well be the case, I'm not sure [02:02] Riddell: those US people put their dates around the wrong way :P === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-37-78.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === OdyXydO [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Drakeson [n=Hon@bas1-toronto02-1242319926.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-20-213.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:37] Riddell: are we doing a flight 7 or anything like that? [03:38] jjesse: not flight, now is beta2,heh [03:39] heh, can't keep things straight :) [03:40] jjesse: Flight 7 will be tommorow's daily if everything goes well [03:41] Lure: congrats [03:41] freeflying: thanks [03:41] oooooo [03:42] jjesse: yes, tomorrow [03:43] can anyone get to http://www.smile.co.uk/cgi-bin/sm_launch.cgi?banking in konqueror? [03:43] do i need a KubuntuFlight7 wiki page then? [03:43] Could not connect to host welcome8.smile.co.uk. [03:43] Could not connect to host welcome8.smile.co.uk. [03:44] jjesse, Drakeson: thanks [03:44] jjesse: there's probably not much to add over beta 2 [03:45] ok so i won't rush a pag [03:45] Riddell: have you relaced libscim8c2a-0ubuntu7 with 0ubuntu8? === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.34.29] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:47] hello ... could someone tell which compiler was used to build Qt ? [03:48] Riddell: ? [03:48] freeflying: 1.4.4-1ubuntu9 is the latest [03:48] insanekane: gcc [03:48] Riddell: by any chance, would you know the version number ? [03:49] Riddell: I'm getting a segfault in QShared when running a Qt app .. [03:49] Riddell: thats why I ask [03:49] 4:4.0.3-1 [03:50] so thats 4.0.3-1ubuntuX ? [03:50] no, doesn't seem to be [03:51] 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 ? [03:52] not what I see here [03:53] Riddell: thats wierd ... are you talking about package version number or something else ? [03:53] yes [03:53] uh ... on dapper ? [03:54] i'm downloading the latest g++ package ... and it seems to have a version 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 [03:55] oh, I'm looking at the meta package [03:55] yes, 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 [03:56] Riddell: whew! thanks [03:56] Riddell: have you ever heard of a segfault happening in QString/QShared ? [03:57] nope [03:57] Riddell: ok ... let me try with the new version of gcc ... maybe that might help [04:07] Riddell: I went through the install CD again... guess I need another hard disk... is there someone i can ask(who made the Ubuntu OEM installer).. or are they busy? :) [04:08] abattoir: kamion is the man, he's always busy but usually happy to help on #ubuntu-devel [04:08] thanks === MrFaber [n=MrFaber@dslb-084-056-238-178.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === MrFaber [n=MrFaber@dslb-084-056-238-178.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === MrFaber [n=MrFaber@dslb-084-056-238-178.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:37] Hi all [04:38] Anyone knows the maintainer of knetworkmanager? [04:38] Or should I join motu channel? [04:40] MrFaber: tonio has done much or the work for kubuntu [04:40] he's not here just now [04:40] thx Riddell === allee [n=ach@217.19.180.111] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@bb220-255-80-72.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:58] ubuntu's grub can't handle xfs as /boot? [05:05] is there anything similar to http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service planned for ubuntu? [05:05] Drakeson: yes, launchpad should offer personal package archives I believe [05:06] there is serious point in their approach: it is possible to build packages for other distros === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-237-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:07] yes, that will be nice, although you probably still need to learn RPM and .deb making === apokryphos [n=apokryph@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@bb220-255-80-72.singnet.com.sg] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === OdyX [i=OdyX@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === MrFaber [n=MrFaber@dslb-084-056-238-178.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@217.19.180.111] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:22] hey ;) [06:22] Lure: uploading kpowersave === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-24-217.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:34] moins [06:34] moin [06:36] hey danimo ;) [06:41] hi Tonio_ [06:42] does anyone see 8.15.2.dfsg.0ubuntu1 in the repository? [06:42] I can't find it on the uk mirror [06:42] danimo: of what? [06:42] args, sorry [06:42] gs-esp [06:42] it didn't paste [06:42] 8.15.1.dfsg.1-1ubuntu3 [06:43] Riddell: same here, but bug 41800 references that package [06:43] Malone bug 41800 in gs-esp "Cups fails to print any file with Brother HL-1430" [Normal,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41800 [06:43] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gs-esp/8.15.2.dfsg.0ubuntu1-0ubuntu1 [06:43] hmm, does seem to be built [06:43] ok [06:44] danimo: it's here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gs-esp/ [06:45] who wants a packaging challenge? [06:45] Riddell: concernint the kio-tar and kio-zip, I searched for a way yo configure it in a restorable way, but didn't find... I'm investigating [06:45] Riddell: packaging what ? [06:45] Tonio_: I suspected as much [06:45] Tonio_: libagg [06:45] Riddell: anything special I may need about it ? [06:45] Tonio_: it's rumoured to have a horrible build system [06:45] Tonio_: ok, getting this thingys svn [06:45] I seem to remember trying it once and failing [06:45] Riddell: will try, and will patch gnash after that if it is not too late to have a package in [06:46] danimo: I get it with an apt-get update [06:46] Riddell: interesting, that's a good way to test my packaging skills ;) [06:46] Riddell: it's not on the uk mirror yet [06:46] patch? [06:46] Riddell: I'd have to switch repos [06:46] Riddell: btw: kio_fonts wants a root password to install fonts as root [06:46] Riddell: can you confirm? [06:46] danimo: must be lagging [06:46] danimo: the UK mirror isn't a mirror, although there are three of them so it's possible they aren't all in sync [06:46] ok [06:47] Riddell: not a mirror == primary ftp? [06:47] Riddell: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libdevel/libagg-dev [06:47] Riddell: backporting this maybe ? [06:47] danimo: yes, it's the primary place [06:47] Tonio_: can we push a package to kubuntu.no-ip.org? [06:47] jpatrick: sure, do you have ftp access ? [06:47] I think [06:47] Tonio_: oh, that's interesting, don't package it then :) [06:47] so let's go [06:48] Riddell: hehe ;) [06:48] Lure gave my the details a while ago [06:48] Riddell: tell me what you want me to do, I'm starting to work on gnash [06:49] Tonio_: do about what/ [06:49] ? [06:49] Riddell: no need to backport for you ? [06:49] Tonio_: seen packaging/debian in the gnash src ? [06:49] Tonio_: it's a sync not a backport, I'm not sure the current status of syncs [06:50] Riddell: yes, sorry for the confusion, I wanted to talk about sync [06:50] Riddell: if syncking isn't possible, we can "port" it and get it revued like a normal package, then we'll got it sync with edgy [06:51] Tonio_: yeah === hiasll [n=hiasll@213-229-63-86.static.adsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:52] Riddell: so just let me know ;) [06:52] jpatrick: noting concerning gnash on debian [06:52] hello hiasll [06:52] sounds strange since it is supposed to work, although it is still in developpment [06:52] Tonio_: could you ask dholbach what the current best practice is? [06:52] Tonio_: in gnash's cvs there's a packaging/debian dir [06:52] Riddell: sure [07:07] Riddell: did you check the kio_fonts issue? [07:07] danimo: I don't have time just now [07:07] ok [07:07] Tonio_: ok, I'll just wait for you [07:07] jpatrick: I already grabbed the sources [07:07] I'm quick packaging to check if that works, and then maybe try a better one :) [07:08] no need to grab it if that doesn't work at all [07:08] there's an existant debian/ dir [07:14] hi [07:14] hi Lure [07:15] hi jpatrick [07:19] Tonio_: timo asked if I would be on LT - I have directed him to you. You plan to be there on Sat? [07:21] Lure: yes I emailed me ;) [07:21] Lure: I will yes [07:21] Lure: what to upload ? kpowersave only or both kpower and power ? [07:21] you mail yourself? ;-) Not enough spam? [07:21] I didn't look at the moment [07:22] Tonio_: it is just powersave, kpowersave 0.6.1 is not yet released as source (but src.rpm exists in SuSe) [07:22] Lure: okay, so you are waiting for sources to be released ? [07:22] Tonio_: I plan to request UFVe for kpowersave if it will fix something useful [07:23] k [07:23] powersave packages are on your repo, ready to upload - so when you have time just do it! [07:27] Lure: uploaded [07:28] Tonio_: thanks - will you close the bugs or should I do it?> [07:29] Lure: I can do if you want [07:32] Interesting - binary package disapeared from LP... [07:35] hello Riddell === pradeepto [n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-12-165.maa.sify.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:02] am I blind or can I really not close bugs on malone? [08:03] danimo: click on package name and then you can edit status [08:04] (it is quite hidden - but I did not notice this until now ;-)) [08:04] yes it is [08:05] Lure: what is the correct status for fixed bugs? [08:05] Fix Commited is typically used if it was commited upstream, but Ubuntu package is not uploaded yet, while Fix Released is used if source package is uploaded to Ubuntu [08:06] ok [08:06] then I'll just wait for ian to close it === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-84.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:08] if someone wants a server for low price, call me ;) [08:09] http://www.dedibox.fr/ [08:09] I know it is in french, but look at the price......... [08:09] and it is a serious company, that's incredible [08:09] does anyone know a way to screenshot xv video? I need to document a bug in xv [08:09] 29,99 euros, I ain't got anything [08:10] danimo: make a picture with a camera ;-) [08:10] hmmmm :) === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=mars_@AMarseille-153-1-40-205.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:48] Riddell: are there any known issues with kdeprint actually ? [08:48] cause I'm having issues here, while gnome-cups-manager works [08:48] doesn't surprise me too much [08:49] Tonio_: what kind of problem - I am printing without problems (and have added one new printer today) [08:50] "error: unable to create driver" something like that [08:50] I will try to extract logs Riddell [08:50] I hope we will get it working for the release....... [08:51] gnome-cups-manager is very nice, so easy to use, autodetects the driver etc.... [08:51] Tonio_: so does kde [08:51] danimo: in theory, but doesn't work here [08:51] it does for me [08:51] I'm getting the full list of drivers and have to select [08:51] danimo: maybe because of that "driver creation" error [08:51] that can explain [08:51] well, but it chooses the right one by default afair === Tonio_ is testing gnash [08:52] ok [08:52] Tonio_: teagames.com [08:52] jpatrick: 2advanced.com [08:53] the most beautifull flash based website ever ;) [08:53] you got a gnash package? [08:55] Tonio_: does it work? [08:55] it just took up all CPU and didn't draw anything when I last tried it [08:56] i noticed some, if not most, of the SoC ideas listed on the wiki for kubuntu are also listed as ideas on the kde wiki [08:56] yuriy: some random person added lots of them to the kubuntu wifi page [08:56] wiki [08:56] if one were to do one of those, which project would it be better to apply for? I'm thinking kde would make more sense [08:56] Riddell: doesn't work on 2advanced [08:56] upstream type stuff probably shouldn't be on the ubuntu wiki page IMO [08:57] but a friend of mine (flash killer) told me that was a kind of exception, it uses about everything existing in flash ;) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:05] Riddell: complete failure :) [09:05] ouch [09:05] but I will keep the package structure since it builds, to try in a few weeks [09:05] jpatrick: it is cvs stuff [09:05] maybe it worked yesterday :) [09:05] yeah... [09:06] anyway, it is annouced for "in a few month", could be cool to have a gpl flash player for edgy === hunger [n=tobias@p54A640E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:06] Riddell: did you read dholbach's response concerning libagg ? [09:06] we can ask for sync, but we need to say why [09:06] so................ why ? :) [09:09] wtf? swat ends in sigabrt [09:15] jpatrick: the standalone player works [09:15] gnash foo.swf is really impressive [09:15] so the only issue is the firefox plugin [09:15] that will work soon [09:17] I don't get any sound but the animation plays very nicelly :) === abattoir [n=abattoir@bb220-255-85-20.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:26] Riddell: the kdeprint bug is a db-foomatic one [09:26] rolling back the package works [09:27] Riddell: the bug is known in debian :http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=360785 [09:27] Debian bug 360785 in foomatic-db "Subject: foomatic-db: generation of ppd files is broken" [Grave,Closed] [09:29] Riddell: new version of foomatic-db correct the issue, so maybe we could ask for sync no ? === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:32] Riddell: I've just had a look at the Ubuntu OEM Installer... The User is asked questions w/ the help of dialogs(something like KDialog, but GTK-ish ;) ). I think what I have proposed goes beyond that. So I'd be more than glad to do what has been done in Ubuntu, and if your satisfied, then I can make it look like what I have propsed in my application... [09:33] *proposed [09:37] Riddell: I'm building and testing latest debian version, and if that works, I will ask for sync [09:37] dholbach gave me the process [09:40] groovy [09:40] build is done, now testing ;) === Tonio_ reloading kde === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === My8os [n=My8os@ppp120-234.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [10:05] jpatrick: fix fails...... [10:05] I will subscribe to the debian bug and wait a wit... [10:05] bit [10:07] ok [10:08] sorry, bit over-excited here [10:12] jpatrick: fix works ;) [10:12] but I had to perform a foomatic-cleanupdrivers first [10:12] I just wonder how can we automate the fix [10:12] postinst maybe [10:13] what I was thinking [10:13] jpatrick: I will ask for sync [10:13] biggest kdeprint issue on the way, YEAH :) [10:22] jpatrick: the package seems to just got in ^^ [10:22] I will not have to ask for sync then [10:22] so your work is done [10:22] nope, doesn't work again........ === Tonio_ is lost....... [10:31] jpatrick: yes, dist-upgrade + foomatic-cleanupdrivers works [10:31] nice ;) [10:45] i think it can be take as a compliment : http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2006/05/laptops-and-laundry.html [10:46] true, nice read [10:50] i thought big developper as him was using gentoo or lfs because they often have tom compile ... i'm surprise === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ is now known as Lure === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-170-173.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-253-114.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:52] night all === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel