[12:02] congratulations Lure! [12:02] welcome Lure :) [12:02] nice, welcome aboard! [12:03] Congrats, Lure [12:03] welcome aboard Lure :) [12:03] Ju, you're up [12:03] Hi ! [12:03] I'm Julien Rottenberg, I live in Los Angeles, and I'm currently seeking a job as a Network Administrator. I have been using Ubuntu since Warty and I'm the third ubuntu-fr administrator. [12:03] I did some advocacy at the "Linux Expo" in Paris, at the "Fete de l'Huma", some wiki pages on the ubuntu-fr doc, and posts moderation on the french forum. [12:03] My profile on Launchpad is https://launchpad.net/people/ju - Wiki : http://wiki.ubuntu.com/JulienRottenberg [12:03] Any ubuntu-fr members around to cheerlead? [12:03] Ju's doing a huge work in the Ubuntu-fr team, I think he's one of our activest members. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-127-205.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:04] thanx Yann2 ;-) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-127-205.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:04] Yann2, good to hear [12:04] Ju is a great member of the French Ubuntu team. [12:04] what to say more? his wiki page is quite long :) [12:05] I'm not involved at all in ubuntu-fr, but looking from the outside, it seems Ju is doing a great work [12:05] I agree with Yann2 and Toadstool, Ju does a really great work in ubuntu-fr [12:06] Yann2, true, but testimonials from others are at least as important as a clear wikipage [12:07] is there anyone else here from ubuntu-fr [12:07] ju does a great job on ubuntu-fr [12:07] and he helped me setting up kubuntu-fr [12:08] almost all wiki pages have been updated once by ju [12:08] I'm not too much involved in ubuntu-fr (just an irc op), but I can tell Ju is really doing a great job for the ubuntu-fr community [12:09] looks fine to me based on wiki page [12:10] same here [12:11] yes [12:11] i think it's fine [12:11] no problem here, seems to be helping to run the ubuntu-fr locoteam so seems like a no-brainer [12:12] Welcome aboard ju! [12:12] Congrats Ju [12:12] Great ! It's honor for me to be a Ubuntu member \o/ [12:12] Congrats tu! [12:12] congrats ju [12:12] nice work Ju [12:12] s/tu/Ju [12:12] welcome Ju :) [12:12] thx ! [12:12] Perfect score so far, everyone's accepted [12:12] congrats Ju :) [12:12] sfllaw, you're up next [12:12] Congrats! [12:12] next one is a no brainer too i guess :) [12:12] congrats Ju :) [12:12] ogra, well... [12:12] ogra: Hey! I resemble that comment. [12:12] heh [12:12] I'm Simon Law, from Montral, Canada. I'm a new Canonical employee who's primary function is to improve QA in Ubuntu. But I'm also a Debian developer and a free software developer. [12:12] Recently, I've been trying to build support for triaging bugs, which is something we're losing on. I've written new articles under HelpingWithBugs, organised support on IRC, drummed up enthusiasm for HugDay, and have started triaging bugs myself. [12:12] My future plans include building up community efforts in QA, especially with the BugSquad team. I have a couple tools I want to write that will help debug and reproduce problems. As well, I have some expertise in building automated test harnesses for Linux distributions, which should come in handy. [12:13] s/who's/whose/ [12:13] Bah. [12:13] p.s. quality controller is the best job title ever [12:13] haha [12:13] very thomas the tank engine [12:13] lol [12:13] Big \o/ from me based on debian work and QA efforts and plans, -0 based on the fact that he's been active for not a too long period [12:13] sfllaw, did an awesome job in the short time he's involved yet [12:13] right, not too long a period in ubuntu but i am familiar with sfllaw's work in debian [12:13] I think the fact that he has a contract takes care of ensuring the "sustained" part of the requirements [12:14] s/awesome/unbelivable, incredibel awesome/s === hybrid [n=hybrid@unaffiliated/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:14] Seveas: -0 noted, although on the flip-side we can expect employees to ... oh, what elmo aid [12:14] said [12:14] mako only says this because I bought him a drink at Debconf 2. [12:14] elmo: welll, there's also visible world elsewhere in the free software community [12:14] mako: right, that too [12:14] sfllaw: you bought me a drink at debconf? [12:14] so anyway, +1 from me [12:14] oh wow you worked for maple, I used to use that at school [12:14] and he's been active in debian for years now [12:14] sfllaw: i must have forget. you should do it again :) [12:14] elmo, but i think what he did until now also counts a lot, dholbach can tell even more i think [12:14] mkOf course. [12:14] mako: Of course. === Kamion is curious what PropterHoc might be [12:15] I'm very happy to work together with sfllaw on the Bug Front and knew him beforehand already. He's quick to understand, to plan and to envision and I think he'll help us to gain back ground :-) [12:15] If he doesn't, he'll have to buy eberyone drinks at Ubuntu French Kiss :) [12:16] Seveas: he'll do that anyway, won't he? :) [12:16] true [12:16] oh, is that the official name ? [12:16] He triaged quite a bunch of bugs already and quickly got an overview over people and teams - apart from that he's very helpful in #ubuntu-bugs to new people. [12:16] Seveas: And this will help us how? [12:16] ajmitch, no hes just buying for mako [12:16] sfllaw, hey, this is the *community* council [12:16] Getting you all drunk? [12:16] I suppose. [12:16] its a major social thing to buy everyone in the distro team a drink at confs ;) [12:17] anyway, +1, know him from Debian and he's got off to a flying start [12:17] yes, sounds great [12:17] welcome aboard sfllaw [12:17] Awesome! Welcome aboard bughunter! [12:17] congrats sfllaw [12:17] ROCK ON! [12:17] Thanks. [12:17] YAY === dholbach hugs sfllaw === ogra hugs sfllaw [12:17] GROUPHUG! === sfllaw hugs dholbach. [12:17] yay === sfllaw hugs ogra. [12:17] Surak, you're next [12:17] he's picked up on the hugging quickly as well.. === mvo congrats sfllaw [12:17] I am Alexandre Otto Strube, from Brazil. the wikipage is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlexandreOttoStrube and launchpad is https://launchpad.net/people/surak [12:17] right now, the plan is bug triage and hardware support. I'm intended to leave developers do their job, and help users with their bugs (several people just want to help, but don't know exactly how). [12:17] I'm doing a lot of work by helping out users in irc, specially on #ubuntu-br . [12:17] Actually working on a Ubuntu-based distribution for a brazilian computer manufacturer. We try to keep as close as ubuntu as possible, and give the most that we can back to ubuntu, in form of testing, bug reporting and translation to pt_BR. [12:18] I've written a tutorial on how developers can change source code in Ubuntu/Debian, which lead to a video driver for breezy amd64 - a functional Via Unichrome (breezy-amd64 used vesa): http://www.surak.eti.br/linux/ubuntu/deb/xserver-xorg-driver-via-preview-amd64-6.8.2.deb === ogra tries to hug 96 ppl, but notices his arms arent long enough [12:18] for the future, as ubuntu gets more and more simple (to me, through learning), the plan is to help by adopting universe packages, and providing quality work on them. [12:18] I would like to introduce someone which can talk a little bit more of me: Claudio Filho (filhocf), the Openoffice Brazil team leader, our upstream in openoffice translation :-) He started the MozBr and PgSQLBr projects also, and is an active collaborator on Debian/Debian-Br-CDD. Altough not a ubuntu member, someone I respect when the matter is open source. I did a lot of work with him before ubuntu, specially. [12:18] Meyer and Licio can talk a little about my work also. KurtKraut is the #ubuntu-br ircop, and can talk also. [12:18] Hi.. [12:18] Surak triaged some hundred desktop-bugs already, and I'm very grateful for what he did. [12:19] Surak is a hard colaborator of the bugTriage, translates and help in irc channel #ubuntu-br [12:19] Surak, you've forgot to mention that you're a colunist at http://planeta.ubuntubrasil.org [12:19] He has a good overview over what goes on upstream, knows which questions to ask, etc - he's very motivated. [12:19] indeed! [12:19] about Surak, i know him some years, and your efforts to help in localization of OOo and Moz here is incredible [12:20] Surak and co. had a go at UbuntuExpress back in the breezy timeframe; we didn't end up using that code, but they made a decent effort [12:20] Surak helps in a help system called Rau-tu(how-to in brazilian speak) and is a big collaborator there [12:20] and he's around pretty long already [12:20] he's been helping out a bit with ubiquity triage work more recently === urss [n=urss@51.199.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:21] in localization part, i think that is a big help to Ubuntu. [12:23] looks fine to be based on wiki page + kamion's comments [12:24] wellwell, i appreciate that you're trying to work closely with ubuntu while working on your own derivative [12:24] i'd love if you document the things that have and haven't worked well as part of that process [12:24] but i'm happy with membership [12:24] today, more work of mine is done in bug triage than in my own job, for desperation of my boss :-) [12:24] Surak, hehe [12:25] 2 down, Kamion what's the verdict? [12:25] but as we are porting our own derivative to dapper, its equally important that dapper is in shape === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:25] @schedule Ottawa [12:26] @schedule Montreal [12:26] Schedule for America/Montreal: Current meeting: Community Council | 03 May 08:00: Edubuntu | 03 May 09:30: Xubuntu | 03 May 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 May 16:00: Technical Board | 10 May 08:00: Edubuntu [12:26] I'm fine with Surak for membership, per the above [12:26] zul, please, we're in a meeting :) [12:26] Ok, 3 down! Congratz Surak ! [12:26] congrats surak [12:26] sorry.. [12:26] btw: Who has launchpad duty today? [12:26] conagrats Surak === camilotelles [n=Camilo@20132194038.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:26] thanks === dholbach hugs Surak [12:27] congrats Surak , welcome [12:27] congrats Surak! [12:27] i'm shaking :-) [12:27] congrats, Surak [12:27] Surak, well done boy ;D [12:27] well done Surak [12:27] congrats Surak, and congrats to Team too. [12:27] gary coady? [12:27] iegary, you're up [12:27] I'd forgotten about launchpad duty - I'll do it [12:27] Hi, I'm Gary Coady, I've been administering Debian systems since '97, so have a good bit of experience with Debian-ish systems. Updated a third party package (aiccu) with debconf support and general Ubuntu integration. Have been working doing C programming for the last few years. A year of tech support (receiving, fixing core dumps etc.) as well. [12:27] I've been helping out with bug triage and fixing in Launchpad since March (you can find me in #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu-desktop), and have provided a good number of patches. I think I've helped somewhat in improving the quality of Dapper when it releases, and look forward to helping further with Ubuntu in the future. My wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaryCoady provides a few more details. [12:27] Kamion, cool [12:27] Kamion: you on it? === filhocf [n=Claudio_@200.101.7.194] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [12:28] mako: yes [12:28] I'm *VERY* pleased that iegary stepped up to write patches that upstream looked for for quite some time. He says that he just picks up the "easy things" - but don't believe him. [12:28] iegary is sending a lot of amazing GNOME patches to fix all sort of bugs to the desktop [12:29] He fixed quite a bunch of annoying things in the desktop world - he's a real asset and we're happy he's with us. [12:29] very good work [12:29] thank you! [12:29] thank *you* [12:29] :) === dholbach high fives iegary [12:29] \o/ for the patching effort [12:29] please pick up more of those "easy" tasks [12:29] yeah :) [12:30] Oh I wouldn't touch any of the difficult ones... === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === seb128 does't find those patches "easy" BTW [12:30] ok, launchpad brought up to current === ogra points to gnome-screensaver ... all these 'easy' bugs are waiting :P [12:31] (like that refcounting on poppler was not trivial code) [12:31] iegary, if you have a moment to spare: Implement a "settings" button in gss please ;) [12:31] woah, poppler ? [12:31] iegary: sounds like a great member to meto me :) [12:31] pffffft [12:31] that indeed deserves membership right away ! [12:31] iegary: could you visit https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers/+join, please? [12:31] I hear you, Seveas [12:31] btw, I hear a rumour I broke pdftex, for the record ;) [12:31] ogra: dude, don't make me rethink the edubuntu/kubuntu delegation thing :-P [12:32] elmo, :P [12:32] ack from me anyway [12:32] (I'm cheating and pre-reading wiki pages, I'm not really this fast) [12:32] heh [12:32] YAY for elmo! [12:32] sadly, I'm not, give me a minute or two [12:32] elmo, FTW [12:33] elmo: i preread them too :) [12:34] Seveas: eh? [12:34] elmo, nvm, I was just cheerleading [12:35] The microsoft keyboard has some bad effects on my mental state [12:35] oh yes, it was the brltty thing I noticed iegary for [12:35] Seveas, we need someone to give you a type m in its place [12:35] is the microsoft keyboard responsible for the appearance of the dreaded ? [12:36] hum. i've been approved as member approximatively one year ago, but never subscribed to the ubuntumembers team -_- [12:36] should I forget it? :D [12:36] Yann2: no, do it now [12:36] Yann2: i remember approving you [12:37] thanks, done [12:37] iegary++, clearly doing a fine job beyond the normal call of duty on bug QA work [12:37] nice work iegary [12:37] nice one, welcome aboard! [12:37] congratz iegary [12:38] congratulations iegary! [12:38] thank you! I'm glad to be here. [12:38] congrats iegari! [12:38] keep up the bug work [12:38] gnomefreak, you're up [12:38] thank you, Seveas [12:38] still need iegari to apply to join the team before I can add him [12:38] gnomefreak: where's your wiki page? [12:38] is there no wikipage? [12:38] Hi I'm John Vivirito aka gnomefreak, I have been helping on irc for many months now, helping new and experienced users on IRC, mailing lists, and more to the best of my ability. I have also done some material in the wikis. I can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Johnvivirito https://launchpad.net/people/gnomefreak http://www.freewebs.com/ubuntufreak/ubuntulinux.htm right now I am learning more about Ubuntu and hope [12:38] to get some more Python and C experience. Done [12:38] elmo: mako: small "v" [12:38] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Johnvivirito === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp42-46.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Dilago [n=dilago@201.19.253.10] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:38] elmo, i thought it was oon the agenda wiki [12:39] s/oon/on [12:39] gnomefreak gets a \o/ from me for IRC support - he's active quite a lot [12:39] I support gnomefreak in his application, he makes an excellent meeter and greeter, and has buckets patience with new users, he gets people from starting block to up and running, he is attentive to the user and gets to the root (should that be sudo ;-)) of the problem even with very new users, be it terminal material or not and walk them through to getting it usable, he has learnt a lot since he started in #ubuntu and his help is polished to [12:39] a high level. He does not get excited with abuse or trolls. === skateinmars [n=skateinm@arl13-1-82-240-6-242.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Bye!] [12:39] or Seveas +1 [12:39] +1 for gnomefreak for the above reasons [12:39] And I want to hijack this a bit: he'd be a great #ubuntu op too [12:40] we need him [12:40] (So a vote on that would be nice) [12:40] I'm obviously too tired to make sense of the IRC logs in that wiki page [12:40] thanks guys :) [12:40] <_jason> gnomefreak is very active on irc. He helps out the new guy as well as someone with a more difficult propblem. He never seems to get frustrated and is always willing to help. === kiko-fud [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === sHaDe [n=sHaDe@host207-235.pool875.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:42] ompaul: thanks [12:42] mako, when we can we do :-) === sHaDe is now known as _sHaDe [12:43] i read the first one [12:43] it backs up everything that om has said [12:43] gnomefreak reminds me a bit of myself a year ago, when I started doing IRC support. Full of enthousiasm and always willing to help/learn [12:43] very patient, very helpful === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@222.33.71.21] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === urss is now known as vampurss [12:45] the main thing that's missing from the first log seems to be a link to the bug filed about the problem. :-) [12:45] heh [12:45] but yeah, what mako said [12:46] gnomefreak: how long have you been helping out on irc? === vampurss [n=urss@51.199.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] [12:46] mako, strongly helping out since december === mako nods [12:47] alright, the most we can do is rely on testimonials and examples.. i'm happy with membership on those grounds === kiko [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Left] [12:47] thank you [12:47] mako, how about IRC op? [12:47] oh yes, that sounds fine [12:47] mako, I really want to see him as an op [12:48] if the other irc ops would like to see it [12:48] +1 on gnomefreak as op [12:48] mako, they want to [12:48] happy with gnomefreak for membership [12:48] thank you [12:49] congratulations gnomefreak! [12:49] gnomefreak: how's the new user network progressing? it's been a while since I heard anything much about it [12:49] congrats gnomefreak [12:49] Surak, ogra: not yet [12:49] er, elmo's not said anything yet [12:49] thank you everyone im glad to be aboard [12:49] ack [12:49] gnomefreak, you're not there yet [12:49] ah, you are ;) [12:49] oops [12:49] congratulations! [12:49] thank you [12:49] nice work dude [12:49] Kamion: new user network its not so much active now === ogra knew he can speed that up with premature comments ;) [12:49] welcome abored [12:50] congrats gnomefreak [12:50] :) [12:50] congratulations now :-) [12:50] Kamion, its going ok [12:50] congratz gnomefreak [12:50] thank you everyone === Kamion attempts to reconcile Bluekuja's and gnomefreak's comments. :) [12:50] <_jason> gnomefreak: congrats [12:50] ty _jason [12:50] gnomefreak, ah, the new user network is moving forward? [12:50] lp munging all done [12:50] maybe its time to move it on [12:51] Seveas: incrementally moving [12:51] ompaul, move on to where? [12:51] nalioth, good to hear [12:51] alright [12:51] Seveas, the bar for the party :) [12:51] Seveas, its getting there [12:51] well, kamion talking with one of new user network admins, he said that the project is not more active because we dont need anymore [12:51] it [12:52] it was really usefull when ubuntu started [12:52] alright, is there any other bueinss [12:52] you mean we have fewer new users now than before? that sounds implausible [12:52] no other business from me [12:52] datetime of next meeting [12:52] am i the next to be voted? [12:52] umm.. probably should be a bit earlier [12:53] for example, 12UTC [12:53] BlueT_, you're not on the agenda [12:53] well, of course now there a lot of new users, but seems that the team is something like freezed [12:53] it would be really nice to have it back [12:53] actually, BlueT_ is on the agenda [12:53] under "Member candidates covered in recent meetings" [12:53] AH [12:53] BlueT_: go ahead [12:53] My name's Matthew Lien, 22y. I'm the Ubuntu@Taiwan leader and Organizer. wiki page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BlueT [12:53] Managing the [ LoCoTeam - Ubuntu@TW] [12:53] -- [12:54] Maintaining these servers and site contents [12:54] Website/Forum : http://www.ubuntu.org.tw [12:54] Doc Team : http://wiki.ubuntu.org.tw - Our own Docs for Traditional Chinese User and Translate Docs from English to Chinese. [12:54] APT server : http://apt.ubuntu.org.tw - archive mirror, 2Gbps bandwidth. [12:54] Deb Team : http://apt.ubuntu.org.tw/ubtw and http://apt.ubuntu.org.tw/ubtw-testing - our own patched and up-to-date package for chinese users. [12:54] LiveCD Team : http://apt.ubuntu.org.tw/UbuntuTW-LiveCD/ - Our own Custom version LiveCD for Traditional Chinese Users. [12:54] "gray hat hacker"? /me raises eyebrow [12:54] ISO mirror : http://apt.ubuntu.org.tw/release [12:54] Dapper mirror : http://apt.ubuntu.org.tw/cdimage/releases/dapper/ [12:54] -- [12:54] Helping Ubuntu-(CN|HK) to be a organized LoCoTeam with our framework. [12:54] Organizing a Ubuntu-ZH, which is a United Team of Ubuntu-(TW|CN|HK), for doing things about TW <-> CN <-> HK. [12:54] Help users on #ubuntu-tw #ubuntu-cn #ubuntu-hk #ubuntu-zh. [12:54] Prepearing a doc server for ubuntu-tw , ubuntu-cn and ubuntu-hk local teams (have been setted up). [12:54] Prepearing a buildd server for ubuntu-tw , ubuntu-cn and ubuntu-hk local teams. [12:54] BetterCJKSupport which aims to make CJK user can use ubuntu more smoothly. [12:54] Translate doc from english to chinese. [12:54] Kamion: white hat for now and future, actually :) [12:54] Write HOWTOs and Docs. [12:55] BlueT_: what are the modifications in the UbuntuTW live CD? [12:55] are they things that we could integrate properly - are bugs filed? [12:55] (bbiab) [12:55] http://apt.ubuntu.org.tw/release 404 [12:56] ah, releases [12:56] Kamion: it was for chinese bug fixs in breezy [12:56] http://apt.ubuntu.org.tw/cdimage/releases/dapper/ is a bit out of date FWIW [12:56] BlueT_: are they still needed in dapper? [12:56] Kamion: the connection speed of cdimage is REALLY slow. we tried our best to mirror :( [12:57] Kamion: i'll focus on locolization in our dapper livecd :) [12:57] there was a period when it was slow due to various issues - you may find it's faster now though, that was a while ago [12:57] although I appreciate that shoving bits half-way round the world takes a while [12:58] it definitely shoudl be better now [12:58] BlueT_: i can rsync the daily images in matter of minutes today from cdimage [12:58] if it's still slow, I suspect network problems, or just general poor level3 .eu -> asia links [12:58] BlueT_: I feel quite strongly that we should be making sure these bits get merged; if you want to mail me (or maybe better ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com) a list of things that need to be integrated, that'd be good [12:59] Kamion: okay :) [12:59] can somebody who knows about it talk with BlueT about the official Ubuntu book? [12:59] (looking down at the bottom of the wiki page) [12:59] I've asked the publisher about translations - no response yet [01:00] Surak: the speed's still slow here :S [01:00] Seveas: talk to me afterwards, i can probably answer your question(s). [01:00] (I'm one of the reviewers for the book) [01:00] neuralis, after the meeting is bedtime, sorry [01:00] BlueT_: on CDs, if you burn our released CD images, you can call those official; for altered/localised CDs we'd have to talk about the details [01:00] Seveas: that's fine, catch me whenever [01:01] any other ubuntu-tw folks around? [01:01] BlueT_: i can talk to you about hte book too [01:01] Seveas: I spoke with mako about pt_BR: I have someone with money who wishes to do it. Mako, did you receive my email? [01:01] Seveas: i've been talking to the publisher about translations.. she said she can make it happen but isn't entirely sure how [01:01] Kamion: Mark asked me to email him these, but no response from him. :S [01:02] Seveas: it's under a free license though so, well, it can happen :) [01:02] mako: ok :D [01:02] BlueT_: try ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com then [01:02] BlueT_: were any of your group at the localisation sprint in London? [01:02] Kamion: abelcheng and freeflying-ibook knows me :) [01:02] i'm still trying to get a sense of the answer to Kamion's first questions === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@ubuntu/member/gnukemist] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:03] now large of a diff are you carrying and how much of it can you get back into ubuntu [01:03] s/now/how/ [01:03] Kamion: nope. we're not invited. but abelcheng was there :) [01:04] guys i have to go, kamion I'll contact you tomorrow to talk about the new user network [01:04] suggestions etc [01:04] mako: almost everything. # how much of it can you get back into ubuntu === Meyer [i=mariomey@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Meyer back [01:05] BlueT_: bugs filed? [01:06] mako: i can't say a correctly number for that question, coz we have a DebTeam for now. # now large of a diff are you carrying [01:06] heya mako... long time don't see [01:07] mako: not enough time for it. [01:08] BlueT_: what do you mean by a DebTeam? [01:08] mako: somebody should focus on bugs filing, and somebody should focus on else. [01:09] a mix of both activities works well for most of the Ubuntu development team, FWIW; it's better for the people who are familiar with the problems to file the bugs [01:09] anyway, we're drifting off-topic; how do folks feel? [01:09] mako: now we have a team for doing patches and packaging softwares. [01:10] I'd really like a commitment to push for reintegration of the ubuntu-tw development work, so that it's a contribution to Ubuntu proper === Dilago [n=dilago@201.19.253.10] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === Willhunting [n=Will@lns-bzn-39-82-255-63-252.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [01:10] BlueT_: (if you're interested in translating the Desktop Guide, Server Guide, Packaging Guide etc, have a look at the ubuntu-translators mailing list archives, there are details there of how to do that.) [01:11] mdke: i see. i had subscribed that mailing list already :) [01:11] but if that's done, I'm happy with the rest of the work [01:11] kamion++ [01:11] (local advocacy, testing, local documentation etc.) [01:11] BlueT_: good, I was just checking because I saw the thing about translating the book so I thought I'd just clarify in case you didn't know about it. [01:12] mdke: thanx :) === mako nods to Kamion [01:12] and apologize if there's any questions i didn't answer [01:12] that sounds like a fair deal [01:13] So, +3 once the ubuntu-tw works are merged? [01:13] not conditional on it being merged, but a commitment to working towards that [01:13] coz english is not my native language, so maybe i'm a little slower than you @@" [01:14] elmo: right [01:15] alright then [01:15] BlueT_: welcome [01:15] if there are no problems then, lets reconvene in two weeks at UTC12 [01:16] can I approve BlueT in LP? [01:16] without that commitment ? [01:16] mako: thanx :) [01:18] BlueT_: can you say that you will get somebody to send a summary of your changes to ubuntu-devel@, and we can move on? :-) [01:19] changes on...? [01:19] BlueT_: the ubuntu-tw live CD, with respect to dapper [01:20] bugs that havent been filed etc [01:20] Kamion: yeh of course :) [01:21] s/filed/filed yet/ :) [01:21] ok, great, thank you [01:21] I've approved BlueT in launchpad now [01:21] ANY OTHER BUSINESS? [01:21] right [01:21] 00:15 < mako> if there are no problems then, lets reconvene in two weeks at UTC12 [01:21] works for me [01:21] ack [01:21] hi all, I know something about BlueT_ , shall I tell something [01:21] going [01:21]