=== redguy [n=mati@adj25.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4207973.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] is there any special way to deal with packages that uses SCons? === zyga_ [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@222.33.71.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] good night everybody === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PhilKC_ [i=PhilKC@unaffiliated/philkc] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] Heya gang === Duey [i=Duey@cuscon492.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] hi bddebian === Duey [i=Duey@cuscon492.tstt.net.tt] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:56] Wow, 2 tsengs :-) [01:57] i would rather bs with you here [01:57] than in #u-d [01:57] Heh [01:57] dont wake the mdz [01:57] hi bddebian and tseng [01:57] hi [01:57] I didn't thing you bs'd? :-) [01:58] tseng: what about the elmo? [01:58] Heya LaserJock [01:58] LaserJock: the elmo is more bark than bite [01:58] but one scary bark [01:58] i dont recommend throwing things at him [01:58] or taking his picture [01:59] both a good way to get a big red beat down [01:59] yeah, I've seen a couple pictures where he expressed his view on taking pictures :-) [01:59] i took mdz's picture [01:59] and he hit me in the head with mentos [01:59] hmm, physically abusive [02:00] not really [02:00] elmo only seems emotionaly abusive ;-) [02:00] I thought all you commie hippies were anti-violence? ;-P [02:00] mentos were thrown non-stop at udu [02:00] daniels and i are little kids [02:00] tseng: so it was group abuse? hmmm [02:01] well there was a room called Vibe (the fuck) Out [02:01] where most of the throwing things happened [02:01] at thom [02:04] hmm, and I was thinking of going to Paris. Maybe I'd have to bring defensive weapons and plenty of mentos [02:06] but I don't think I have money for it actually. Paris is still pretty expensive to fly to for me. If it was in Vegas I'd be set [02:06] in sydney the hotel put out the menthos [02:06] mentos [02:07] heh [02:07] and did they have to clean them up? === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] LaserJock: what's wrong with Paris? [02:35] LaserJock: yeah they did [02:35] LaserJock: and refill them [02:35] hub: It's full of French people? ;-P [02:35] bddebian: yeah, I prefer Paris in August for that sole reason [02:35] ? === Unfrgiven [n=ankur@ubuntu/member/unfrgiven] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] bddebian: August is the month of the year were most of french people leave for vacations [02:36] Oh, hehe [02:36] bddebian: so Paris is a desert populated by tourists [02:36] July is not bad either [02:36] Paris sucks. [02:36] ^_^;; [02:37] hub: I'd just like it to be closer so it wasn't so expensive. [02:37] LaserJock: closer to what? [02:38] hub: me [02:38] LaserJock: still does not tell me [02:38] Nevada, USA [02:38] ah [02:39] i cant go to Paris [02:39] well for me Paris is closer, not in distance [02:39] i am going to Spain the next week [02:39] i dont have that much vacation time [02:39] btw, what is in Paris? [02:39] hub: next ubuntu conf [02:39] oh [02:39] hub: the week before guadec [02:39] no shit [02:39] yeah [02:39] will be a no for me [02:39] even if I could have free room === hub would go to his mom === caravena [n=caravena@209-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] but Ubuntu Conf is not gonna happen [02:42] as 1/ I'm already scheduled for GUadec, 2/ I don't see my employer letting me go [02:43] hub: same here [02:43] ubuntu conf is boring anyway [02:43] such a hectic schedule [02:43] tseng: it is to get work done [02:43] i know [02:44] but you get tired of it after a few days [02:44] tseng: I was at the last one [02:44] all week [02:44] I had nothing else to do [02:44] yeah [02:44] you were in your own country [02:44] tseng: Paris is my own country [02:45] Montreal was my place of unemployment [02:45] ok [02:45] do you still live in canada? [02:45] yeah [02:45] near Ottawa [02:45] I work for a canadian Linux vendor [02:46] not hard to guess which one [02:46] i know [02:46] I guess I should have gone to UBZ, it might be my best chance for a while [02:46] maybe Mexico will be next [02:46] that I could probably do [02:47] LaserJock: distance is not the biggest problem [02:47] fortunately it is not in the US [02:47] I still think Las Vegas would be cool [02:47] LaserJock: uncool [02:47] LaserJock half of canonical hates the US [02:47] lot of people would not be able to come [02:47] LaserJock: so good luck [02:47] tseng: including me === hub is just a motu [02:48] I know, I just wish they could get past it for 1 conference :-) [02:48] LaserJock: why don;t you come? [02:49] most off the countries haven't had the balls to be strict with US tourists [02:49] unlike Bush is doing [02:49] well, it is expensive to fly [02:49] LaserJock: it is more expensive to get the right to enter your country [02:49] flying to france is not expensive [02:49] it cost me CAD$900 last time [02:49] something like $1000 USD [02:50] I'd really have to save for it [02:50] the is what lot of people have to pay to even have the right to submit a visa application [02:51] tseng: 1/2? I think like 90% of "Free Software" folks hate the US [02:51] bddebian: thats because they are a bunch of pinko commies === tseng hides [02:52] tseng: EXACTLY :-) === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] I love the US but I can see where it is difficult for people why aren't from here [02:52] bddebian: there are still some in the US [02:52] bddebian: before they get arrested for communism in a big witch hunt [02:52] hi! [02:53] LaserJock: the problem is more the regime [02:53] wow ok, a 40 year old political scandal [02:53] hub: well, I like it too, but I won't go there ;-) [02:54] LaserJock: then blame yourself [02:54] afternoon [02:54] hey ajmitch [02:55] hub: hehe, alright. I'll just have to save up the money [02:55] hi ajmitch === polpak [n=polpak@castilian.sb.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:55] Anyone awake? ;p [02:55] no [02:55] damn =p [02:55] all asleep here [02:55] Just curious, but why is the python2.4-ctypes package so old? [02:56] polpak: not asleep let [02:56] in dapper even [02:56] Heya ajmitch [02:57] polpak: is it that old? [02:57] polpak: because upstream version freeze was in january [02:57] Hmm, should I look at bugs tonight... [02:57] nah, just hang out and BS with us slackers ;-) [02:58] ajmitch, ah.. gotcha [02:58] LaserJock: :-) [02:58] ajmitch, there was just a big jump in version numbers in feb [02:58] ajmitch, sorry for the confusion =) === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MrRio [n=rio@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/MrRio] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@106.135.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinity [n=adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] Does anyone give enough of a damn about vpopmail/libvpopmail-perl/php4-vpopmail/qmailadmin to fix them up so that they're buildable, installable, and not RC buggy? [03:40] infinity: they sound scary [03:42] They also appear to be mostly unmaintained in Debian (no uploads for ages, no reponse to RC bugs), so I'm inclined to just drop them entirely. [03:42] infinity: What are you doing in here? :) [03:43] giving us more work, of course [03:43] 'night [03:43] bddebian: Trying to get MOTUs to either fix multiverse or tell me to remove stuff from the archive, that's what. :) [03:43] ajmitch: :-) [03:43] yeah, 3 RC bugs against vpopmail, 2 years since last upload [03:43] messy [03:43] Hmm, I guess I could take a look but I'd vote for removal [03:43] security bugs included [03:44] ajmitch: And in my experience trying to install it just now, those 3 RC bugsa aren't comprehensive. I could file another 2 or 3 based on a 30-second audit. [03:44] I'd remove it rather than having to spend time getting it up to par [03:44] Anyhow, I figured maybe someone here was enough of a qmail nut to want to fix them up and make them work. [03:44] If not, I'm happy to drop them. === infinity uses exim and postfix, so has no iterest in fixing qmail-related junk. [03:45] infinity: I hate qmail === ajmitch only uses exim here [03:45] infinity: because it is not free, it developer is not even open to anything and because qmail is buggy === hub only uses Postfix === bddebian uses neither [03:46] hub: I'm not looking for anti-qmail sentiments. I know all the arguments. :) [03:46] I really should fix my debian RC bugs [03:46] infinity: Drop them === bddebian makes executive decision [03:46] bddebian: sendmail? smail? nullmailer? :) === infinity finds the latter particularly effective for dealing with his bug backlog. [03:47] Outlook express :-) [03:47] ajmitch: So, am I just completely retarded? I never knew until I just looked you up RIGHT NOW that you're a DD. [03:47] infinity: I've only been a DD for a bit over a year [03:48] ajmitch: And you maintain a PHP application... You must despise me. [03:48] (Or, perhaps, I despise you...) [03:48] or I despise it [03:48] heh === infinity finds that every DD who maintains something PHPish generally has a gripe with him. [03:49] Doesn't help that I never got around to publishing the PHP policy that I keep smacking people with. === infinity <--- slacker. [03:50] ajmitch: Hrm. Were you always the pnet maintainer? [03:50] yes [03:50] Oh, then I guess we probably crossed paths long before I joined Ubuntu. [03:50] you actually know of it? [03:50] surprising [03:50] I vaguely recall making some promises to help bootstrap it on m68k, then completely forgetting about it until, uhm, today. [03:50] ah yes [03:50] I remember that now === infinity really should find a weekend to port both pnet and mono to m68k. [03:52] pnet ought to be easy === infinity really should find a weekend that's not dedicated to work. [03:52] Yeah, pnet doesn't look as scary as mono. === ajmitch should just find a machine to do the porting work on & find the motivation to do it [03:52] ajmitch: Well, as a DD, you have access to crest. If you need anything installed in the sid chroot there, let me know. [03:53] alright [03:53] the 2nd part is the hardest [03:53] Motivation is a killer for me too these days. :/ [03:56] My recent Debian upload record isn't exactly stellar. I think working on Ubuntu all day kinda kills any motivation to do EXACTLY THE SAME THING in my dwindling spare time. === bddebian whips out the catlle prod [03:56] Err cattle even [03:57] bddebian: the electric kind? [03:57] I suspect so [03:58] the electric ones work pretty well, but a good ole' 2x4 can do the job as well [03:58] heh [03:58] I find beer works better for motivation === bddebian hands infinity a 6 pack and points him at ivtools [03:59] oh, I was talking about cattle ;-) [03:59] I'm sure infinity didn't move to .au for the beer.. [04:00] never tried beer on a cow before but I suspect it wouldn't work as well as on a Linux dev [04:00] There's some adequate beer here, but I'm not a heavy drinker (I know, shock, programmer that doesn't drink much), and Canada's beer was just fine. [04:01] I think I've only had beer once, when one of my college buddies swapped out my apple juice :( === bddebian rarely drinks. But isn't a "programmer" either :-( [04:08] bddebian: beer is good though [04:08] :) [04:08] chillywilly: it sure isn't good when you are expecting apple juice ;-) [04:09] It's an acquired taste. I can't imagine that it's best acquire through subterfuge. [04:09] chillywilly: Oh, I didn't say it was bad.. But with 3 kids, et al, it's tough :-) [04:09] s/acquire /acquired/ === infinity goes back to work. [04:10] So, the concensus on the broken qmail vpopmail stuff is "drop it like a hot potato"? [04:11] bddebian: I ship you some beer ;) [04:11] seems to be [04:11] Good enough for me. Thanks guys. === bddebian gets no love [04:11] I'd hate to ship security holes in universe [04:11] No, THANK YOU infinity [04:12] chillywilly: Sweet :-) === infinity [n=adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:12] Linenkugels? :-) [04:12] None of the Old Milwaukee spit :-) [04:12] bddebian: Leinies? [04:16] bddebian: http://www.leinies.com [04:16] bah that's not the right website [04:17] bddebian: http://www.leinie.com [04:17] Heh a user admin page? :-) [04:18] their site seems broken [04:18] after stupid flash animation firefox display the html as text... [04:18] weird [04:18] displays [04:22] heh [04:26] wonderful === ajmitch waits for the NEW queue [04:27] hi ajmitch, bddebian [04:27] hey tritium [04:27] how's it going? [04:28] Not bad. Yourself? [04:28] good :) [04:28] just building packages as usual [04:28] Glad to hear it :) [04:28] I'm riding the bus to work, so I feel environmentally responsible :) [04:28] Heya tritium [04:29] Hello Barry deFreese. Haven't I seen you in my Inbox lately? [04:30] Nice work ;) [04:30] tritium! [04:30] LaserJock! [04:30] tritium: he's been spamming everyone [04:30] tritium: Yeah, I've been slacking :-) [04:30] yeah! [04:30] bddebian: heh === ajmitch builds yet more sponsored uploads [04:32] ajmitch: had a chance to test praat? [04:33] no, I'll install it now [04:33] what's it meant to do? [04:34] well, I think on AMD64 it was hanging [04:34] right [04:34] and you hope the new version doesn't [04:34] well I get the UI appearing [04:34] yep [04:34] nothing hung so far [04:35] but it's very very ugly (lesstif) [04:35] well, I'm *not* going to fix that today [04:35] good [04:36] I just wanted to make sure that it indeed did work on AMD64 [04:36] seems to [04:36] it should since the authors made a point to fix it [04:36] I just wanted some verification [04:36] thanks ajmitch [04:38] Ack, where's the binary for doomlegacy-sdl? [04:38] tritium: btw, I registered #ubuntu-science today [04:38] bddebian: probably FTBFS [04:39] either that or something is broken [04:39] LaserJock: cool :) [04:39] bddebian: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/166664 [04:39] bad CFLAGS for gcc [04:40] Hmm, well it installed :-) === PhilKC [i=PhilKC@unaffiliated/philkc] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] does Keybuk still create patches? 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[08:33] I'm fine - thanks [08:33] getting read for the crasher bugs :) [08:33] how are you? [08:33] good thanks :) [08:34] getting a bit of bugfixing done today === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.43.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:34] rock'n'roll :-) [08:35] hi dholbach and ajmitch === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-54-78.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:35] hello Hobbsee :) [08:35] goood morning, folks! [08:35] morning siretart [08:35] oh, fancy seeing you here ajmitch :P [08:35] hi siretart [08:35] good to see you around [08:35] hey Hobbsee. huhu ajmitch :) [08:35] Hobbsee: you expect me to ever leave irc? [08:35] ajmitch: sure, when you're on the plane. [08:36] haha [08:36] :P [08:36] that's when I detach screen :) [08:36] hehe! [08:37] hey Hobbsee, siretart! === jamessan [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:46] huhu dholbach [08:49] ajmitch: did you have the change to look at the updated praat package (bug #42510) [08:49] Malone bug 42510 in praat "praat UVF exception request" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42510 [08:50] siretart: yes, it worked for me [08:53] ajmitch: ok thanks [08:53] ajmitch: may I assign the bug to you (for uploading the new version) [08:54] oh, sorry, daniel didn't respond to that yet [08:54] isn't it a sync request to make? [08:54] ah no, it's not [08:55] I responded to 42510 [08:55] dholbach: I was looking at the wrong tab. sorry [08:57] no sync just because of a .desktop file - I can upload that [08:58] siretart: no problem === Mongoose is away: /_\ zzZzZZZZzz === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | We are in feature freeze now. Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DhIconCacheChanges and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by dholbach at Thu Apr 27 10:51:45 2006 === highvoltage [n=Jono@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:20] dholbach: could you perhaps post it to ubuntu-motu? [12:22] siretart: I thought about that, but then again, I thought it'd be good to not post massfiling scripts around :-) [12:22] siretart: http://daniel.holba.ch/bzr/massfile/ is the bzr branch === ajmitch fetches [12:23] might come in handy one day === tseng hugs dholbach ajmitch [12:24] hi tseng [12:24] i hope beowulf pops up today === dholbach hugs tseng back [12:24] tseng: bug 6300 [12:24] Malone bug 6300 in gfax "gfax crash" [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6300 [12:25] soon we will be right back where we started [12:25] you think gfax from sid will be ok? [12:25] with me uploading every change straight to ubuntu [12:25] ajmitch: yes, meebey maintains it [12:25] that's what I thought.. [12:25] i gave up trying to walk gfarris through doing it himself [12:25] dholbach: want me to put it through as a UVF exception for the team to decide on? [12:26] if I have a vote I vote yes already [12:26] slomo will vote yes [12:27] and siretart & dholbach are here already [12:27] ok. === womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch hasn't asked slomo, but I'm sure he will.. [12:27] ajmitch: sounds good === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] reassigned, add comments where appropriate & I'll ask for a sync when done === tseng adds Card for Mako to his tomboy notes === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-255-49.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-255-49.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [12:38] does a restriction exists right now for uploads to universe ? I've added a desktop file, and no confirmation e-mail of my upload [12:39] pef: no restrictions [12:39] check that you didn't accidentally set distro to unstable === ajmitch did, and got no REJECT mail === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-255-49.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:39] hello pygi :) [12:39] hi ajmitch [12:42] ajmitch: long time no see :P [12:42] yeah [12:43] I thought I'd better find out about this ubuntu development thing before I submitted a proposal, you see [12:43] ajmitch: heh [12:44] ajmitch: had set to dapper, but still nothing, strange === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] will check later... === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou [n=kagou@84.4.197.129] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jbailey [n=jbailey@217.19.180.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@118.Red-80-34-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=Tomasz@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:28] eeh, where do you go, if you want a version bump of a package in dapper? === herzi [n=herzi@c197092.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey_ [n=herman@83.137.151.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] good question === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] wish there was 0.20.1 of quodlibet available. [01:39] wonder why he wants it bumped.. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@222.33.71.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] TomaszD: I'll try and whip up a uvfe req for that today [01:52] crimsun, cool, thanks! === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=ryu@p5487F817.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-37-78.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kjcole [n=kjcole@ubuntu/member/kjcole] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] whats lucas nussbaums irc nick? [02:40] Lathiat: lol, lucas [02:40] just checking cause wasnt online :) [02:41] siretart: ping? === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] Whats going on LaserJock [02:48] truz24: oh, not a whole lot. Got up nice and early for and Edubuntu meeting [02:48] So what is your research in for your PHD? [02:51] detecting molecular motors === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AE622.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seantater [n=sean@cpe-069-132-052-158.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz24 [n=truz24@12.203.70.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] I think that cinelerra would be fine if found in universe/multiverse [03:01] and jashaka === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=No4Vikin@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=No4Vikin@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@89-138-99-136.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] night all [03:18] ajmitch: just a sec [03:19] ajmitch: you merged praat? [03:20] good night, ajmitch [03:21] jeeze, I ask him to test it out and he steals my upload ;-) === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] LaserJock: pong === TomaszD [n=Tomasz@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] siretart: heah, I was just wondering about the praat UVFe [03:37] could I request another uvfe ? this time for Kino 0.8.1 http://www.kinodv.org/article/view/123/1/7/ . [03:37] I'm really looking forward to this release [03:38] siretart: ajmitch said he would upload it? [03:40] LaserJock: I'd suggest asking him himself, but I remember that because of a desktopfile, a sync wasn't possible [03:40] maybe I mix up things, though [03:40] siretart: yeah, but I had a package ready to go [03:40] so was just waiting for the ok. [03:41] LaserJock: if you can upload yourself, just assign the bug to you and do it [03:42] siretart: well, ajmitch already took care of it. I just wondered if there was a reason ajmitch was supposed to do it [03:45] LaserJock: no, he was just the first in sight [03:45] LaserJock: I'm experimenting if assigninging UVF requests to specific people improves the processing of them [03:46] rather than to leave them assigned to motu-uvf, that is === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.43.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] siretart: ok === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] hi all === PhilKC_ [i=PhilKC@unaffiliated/philkc] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === ohoel [n=beshy@ti400720a081-14005.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jbailey [n=jbailey@217.19.180.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou [n=kagou@84.6.193.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:08] hi [04:08] hi kagou [04:09] is there a nice developer for Bug #36753 ? [04:09] Malone bug 36753 in gdesklets "upgrade to gDesklets 0.35.3" [Wishlist,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/36753 [04:10] like siretart asked me " then ask on #ubuntu-motu some developer to look at your bug, your package or whatever in order to get it to the archive" [04:11] so any volunteer ?! === No1Viking [n=No4Vikin@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] hmm, that would require a Upstream Version Freeze exception this late in the release cycle [04:12] LaserJock: look description UVF is accepted [04:13] Does the status of bug #6687 mean that it was rejected for dapper? That would be nice to get fixed... [04:13] Malone bug 6687 in gnome-session "Options in system > preferences > sessions, various little problems" [Minor,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6687 [04:15] kagou: nice, you did a lot of work on this [04:15] thanks LaserJock. I do my best. it's the minimum that i can do to help Ubuntu team. [04:15] tritium: I don't think so. [04:17] LaserJock: the uvf is granted, it needs someone to assemble and upload it [04:17] if nobody steps in, I'll handle it tonight [04:17] siretart: the debdiff looks pretty simple, I can sponsor the upload for kagou I think [04:17] LaserJock: you think it will get addressed, in other words? [04:18] tritium: yeah, there was a problem where a bunch of dapper tasks were created and they shouldn't have been, I think [04:18] I see... [04:19] kagou: so why did you chance the gdesklets-data dependency? [04:19] s/chance/change/ === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] LaserJock: to close a bug. It's very simple. If you use the Add/Del software and you install gdesklets, gdesklets-data is not installed so gdesklets is not working [04:21] kagou: ok, give me a bit to build it for myself [04:21] np LaserJock === jbailey [n=jbailey@217.19.180.121] has left #ubuntu-motu ["kthxbye"] [04:26] hmm bug 32252 [04:26] Malone bug 32252 in tuxpaint "Installs two desktop launchers in different sections" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/32252 === caravena [n=caravena@200.55.195.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] zakame: probably 1 .desktop with multiple Categories [04:28] yep it seems [04:29] LaserJock: patch adding depend for gdesklets-data have been created for Bug #38080 [04:29] Malone bug 38080 in gdesklets "gdesklets should probably have dependency of gdesklets-data" [Normal,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38080 === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xixaq [n=xixaq@84.236.191.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@217.19.180.111] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] slomo: ping? [05:17] LaserJock: pong [05:17] slomo: I'm fixing up gdesklets. kagou mentioned you said to remember to no install mime [05:18] LaserJock: to not install mime.cache, yes [05:18] LaserJock: look at the changelog of our current gdesklets for the reasons [05:19] yeah, do you know about "chmod 644 debian/gdesklets/usr/lib/gdesklets/NullObject.py" in rules? [05:22] LaserJock: no idea [05:22] LaserJock: NullObject.py was removed in the new version afaik anyway [05:23] that was what i was wondering [05:23] I'm trying to figure out what all needs to be merged back in [05:23] I've got the mime.cache and python-orbit dep done === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou [n=kagou@84.4.197.129] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] welcome back kagou [05:36] LaserJock: :) === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kengra [n=nobody@81-31-235-95.ncs.nc-spectrum.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:44] what programming language would you suggest i learn if i want to contribute? c++? [05:45] to ubuntu? [05:46] hub, yes [05:47] kengra: shell and eventually python [05:47] most likely [05:47] contributing to ubuntu is a lot of packaging task [05:48] knowing other programming language is always a plus as it sometime allow to fix bugs in the program themself, but since the goal is not to patch too much... [05:50] so you would say that learning python would be a good place to start? [05:50] can you recommend a good developer tool? [05:52] kengra: I don't know python [05:52] that does not prevent me from being a motu [05:55] dholbach: ping? [05:55] LaserJock: pong [05:55] dholbach: I'm preparing an upload of the new gdesklets [05:55] LaserJock: nice [05:55] dholbach: and the .deb failes on the postrm [05:56] dholbach: with "touch: missing file operand" [05:56] dholbach: and the only place touch is called is by the dh_iconcache part [05:56] LaserJock: get the new debhelper - adam fixed that [05:56] when? [05:57] I have a pretty updated system. let me dist-upgrad and try again === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@89-138-99-136.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@217.19.180.111] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:10] argg, I need a little help === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] apt doesn't work anymore [06:11] how do I force the removal of a package [06:11] dpkg --purge? [06:13] ugg, it is still failing on postrm and it insists I reinstall before removal [06:13] but I can reinstall for the same reason [06:13] s/can/can't/ [06:15] dholbach: do you know of a way to get rid of package that has that dh_iconcache problem? [06:15] LaserJock: get the new debhelper - adam fixed that [06:16] LaserJock: build with new debhelper === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] Heya gang [06:18] heya bddebian [06:18] dholbach: what I'm saying is I can't do anything with dpkg or apt-get because of it [06:18] Heya zakame [06:18] dholbach: so I can't get a new debhelper === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:19] Uh oh, what'd LaserJock break now? :-) [06:19] LaserJock: edit .postrm [06:19] dholbach: ah, should have thought of that === lbm [n=lbm@0x555298ca.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] hello [06:24] Heya Tonio_ === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:25] siretart: ping? [06:26] hey bddebian [06:26] or dholbach? [06:28] bddebian: I'm quite busy - what is it? [06:29] dholbach: siretart asked me to sync vnc4. Can we do that now? === ealden [n=ealden@ipdial-165-41.tri-isys.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] Boy, I don't even get love from dholbach anymore :'-( [06:30] bddebian: man, i'm just busy - sorry [06:30] bddebian: if he said you can sync it, then go ahead - assign the bug to ubuntu-archive and say that it's ok to override ubuntu changes [06:30] sorry, if i'm a bit blunt [06:30] Oooh, OK, sorry [06:30] NP [06:30] i'll be better later :) [06:30] promise [06:30] No worries === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-24-217.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:33] hi dholbach [06:33] hi Tonio_ [06:37] bddebian: have you built vnc4? [06:37] LaserJock: Yes and installed === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:38] Crap, varconf probably should have been a UVF exception request instead of a sync request? === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === alef-null [i=alef0@M1014P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] dholbach: Riddell is interested in libagg in dapper [06:53] dholbach: there is a debian package available, so it could eventually be sync, but we don't know the sync status [06:54] Tonio_: make a request to get it synced or ask in #ubuntu-devel how happy everybody is with it [06:54] dholbach: what is the best way to do this actually ? sunchronizing or porting and getting it revued ? [06:54] dholbach: thanks [06:54] build it, test it [06:54] the file a bug, assign to ubuntu-archive [06:54] dholbach: sure I will in the first place [06:54] describe why it's needed [06:54] etc === dholbach hugs bddebian [06:54] dholbach: great thanks [06:55] dholbach: Heh, suuure :-) === LaserJock is going to hide for a while [06:58] LaserJock: Why's that? :) [06:58] bddebian: dapper-changes [06:58] LaserJock: ? [06:58] I just uploaded a new upstream version of gdesklets [06:59] Oh, nice :-) === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:00] LaserJock: oh, naughty [07:01] well, the first time I tried uploading it it was rejected because I forgot to include the new .orig.tar.gz [07:01] tsk tsk :-) [07:01] which was good because I overlooked merging a couple things [07:02] so needless to say, I sure hope it works and slomo doesn't have my hide === vud1 [n=vud1@175.Red-80-25-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:02] LaserJock: i see everything ;) [07:03] but I've been up since 05:00 this morning [07:03] I'd like to just say that kagou did a great job with that UVF exception [07:05] anyway, I've done enough work/breakage for a bit. I got to get to work [07:06] Later Laser_away [07:07] We need an motu-mentor program, don't we? [07:07] Yes [07:07] Someone needs to mentor my sorr arse :-) [07:08] bddebian, great, so let me know when we can get started :) [07:08] oh I thought you'd be my mentor ;) [07:08] :-) [07:09] I wish I could help out with some of the more mechanical/rote tasks, is all. [07:09] Bug triaging is a big help === dewd_ [n=dewd@201009203104.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:18] dholbach: Isn't the changelog diff there for varconf? [07:20] that's for debian/changelog [07:20] ChangeLog is a bit more informative [07:24] Ahh, OK === bddebian gets no love [07:25] dholbach: Diff the upstream changelogs or just send the new changelog? === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:27] diff upstream changelogs === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.43.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.43.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.43.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] dholbach: sent [07:36] bddebian: thanks [07:37] dholbach: No, thank YOU :-) === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:38] carthik: when I first started I wanted to start a motu-mentor program [07:38] carthik: but really I think it is better to view #ubuntu-motu as your mentor [07:39] Why, we never help anyone in here? ;-P === LaserJock thwaps bddebian over the head with a print copy of the Ubuntu Packaging Guide ;-) [07:41] I'd like to start coming up with a curriculum for #ubuntu-motu-school though [07:44] LaserJock: in the beginning of next release, I'd like to help with that [07:45] dholbach: yeah, I can't do it until the release. But I was thinking of using the Packaging Guide [07:47] yeah and random stuff we come up with [07:47] which can also be encorporated back into the Packaging Guide [07:47] yeah [07:48] I sure would like it to be more of a comunity thing than me running around trying to document everything [07:48] I don't mind being the doc team contact and handling the XML [07:49] LaserJock: But you do it so well :-) [07:49] bddebian: I don't particularly think so, luckily crimsun helped proofreading [07:50] I was very worried I would have some serious Policy violation in there or something just out of shear ignorance === selinium [n=selinium@82-34-184-89.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:51] LaserJock: Bah, ignorance is MY sepcialty [07:52] bddebian: that's what I like about you. we can be brothers in ignorance ;-) [07:52] heh [07:52] but I've gotten fairly good reviews so far and there is even going to be a print version soon that people can get === pygi [n=pygi@83.131.246.75] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi_ [n=pygi@83.131.253.114] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:23] LaserJock, that looks awesome (the packaging guide) - but a page describing how/when packages are normally "synced" with the latest from debian, a page describing how a normal ".desktop" bug is fixed etc, with steps would be helpful, imho [08:23] carthik: sure [08:24] The reason I said a mentor program would be nice is so that a wannabe has one guaranteed answering post :) (through email+IRC) === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.43.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:26] carthik: I can surely understand that, I was there myself [08:27] carthik: but being a mentor is pretty demanding and I think the MOTU survive on an atmosphere of community effort so getting help from many source is good === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:29] carthik: I would be more in favor of a mentor-team or something like that, but in esscence the MOTU is that already [08:29] if we can get the MOTU school fired up again that would probably help === ryu [n=ryu@p5487F817.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] LaserJock, I agree with you, but maybe a mailing list could help more than IRC only [08:30] LaserJock, couldn't agree more. Besides, if a current MOTU finds a low-hanging fruit - it must be rather tempting to just pluck it than to show some wannabe how to pluck it. [08:30] Gloubiboulga: we have the ubuntu-motu list [08:31] LaserJock, I don't see it as a "mentor" list [08:31] I agree [08:31] but there isn't anything that says it can't be really. I don't know how the other MOTUs would feel about that [08:31] it doesn't seem to be very high traffic these days [08:32] true [08:32] Gloubiboulga: it would just take making people aware of it === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-54-78.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.43.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] carthik: I try to encourage Wannabes to grab that low-hanging fruit, but yeah, sometimes it is just easier to do it [08:36] it would be kinda nice to come up with a Wannabe To Do list that MOTUs can dump the low-hanging fruit === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.43.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.43.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:03] anyone thinking about packaging GShare? [09:03] ( http://yimports.com/~cpinto/projects/gnome/gshare ) looks promising === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.43.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns02-1277.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ohoel_ [n=beshy@ti400720a081-16803.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.43.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluepixel [n=chris@W35b6.w.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:29] hey guys, what's the default gcc-version i should take to compile packages "ubuntu-conform"? [09:29] and the most important, what c/cxx/ld-flags [09:30] libc is 2.3.6 i guess [09:31] many thanks to LaserJock for uploading my UVF of gdesklets :) [09:32] kagou: well, you are doing good work there. I hope you keep it up [09:32] bluepixel: gcc. none. 2.3.6 in dapper. === zul__ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:33] :) [09:34] crimsun: ah okay, what about compiler flags? [09:34] bluepixel: see the "none". === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:34] i see ;) yes ok thanks === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:58] see you later [09:59] cya kagou === dewd_ [n=dewd@201009203104.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.43.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] good night motu world [10:18] cya dholbach [10:19] night dholbach [10:20] night LaserJock, night pygi === marcin` [n=marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seantater [n=sean@cpe-069-132-052-158.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@acz145.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:28] morning all [11:31] Heya ajmitch [11:31] hi ajmitch, bddebian [11:31] Heya Mithrandir [11:40] hi ajmitch, upload stealer ;-) [11:40] LaserJock: sure, I'll hand in my key now.. [11:40] ajmitch: you gonna close the praat UVFe request? [11:41] no, then I'll be stealing it from you [11:41] well, it is assigned to you [11:42] done [11:42] Catch you in a while folks === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu-in.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:57] if I edited a postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info will it take effect when I run dpkg? [11:59] LaserJock: Yes it should.