[12:03] <LeeJunFan> well that was nice. Google just crawled my laptop, found 2 movies in my ~/junfan path on apache and swamped my bandwidth for about 40 mins. What I want to know is how the hell they even knew there was a ~/junfan on my system.
[12:04] <slow-motion> hallo
[12:12] <pyrobob> um...
[12:12] <pyrobob> quick question
[12:12] <pyrobob> when I try to install superkaramba (via ./configure) I get alot of crap about the C compiler cannot create executable
[12:13] <pyrobob> how do I fix that?
[12:14] <eosyn> install gcc
[12:14] <eosyn> superkaramba came with my system or was in adept
[12:15] <eosyn> some of superkaramba's plugins like to pork my box
[12:15] <pyrobob> I tried downloading it through adept, but i don't like that version
[12:15] <pyrobob> im trying to istall an older version
[12:15] <eosyn> ahh
[12:15] <pyrobob> install*
[12:16] <pyrobob> but I would still need to fix that problem for later installs
[12:16] <pyrobob> even if I can't get superkaramba working right
[12:16] <pyrobob> any ideas?
[12:18] <pyrobob> ... so am I just wasting my time asking?
[12:30] <apricot> xubuntu is not bad.
[12:35] <MEtaLpREs> so i have a 512mb napster mp3 player and i used to work in kubuntu, just plug it in and it would pop up and i could drop file onto it, but now it pops up and only 1 folder is available and i cant even see the other folders
[12:35] <MEtaLpREs> any ideas how to make all the other folders visable?
[12:46] <sikor_sxe> since i upgrade to dapper i experience system crashes, is there a way to find out what causes them?
[12:48] <stefan__> try dmsg
[12:49] <stefan__> or
[12:49] <stefan__> k-menu
[12:49] <squilla> dmsg | less is better
[12:49] <stefan__> yes ;)
[12:49] <stefan__> system
[12:49] <stefan__> k-menu->system->ksystemlog
[12:50] <sikor_sxe> dmesg shows stuff since boot, right?
[12:50] <stefan__> uff
[12:50] <stefan__> i don't know.
[01:00] <Riddell> aseigo: pong
[01:05] <Drakeson> do we have rubygems here?
[01:10] <jeff__> hey guys
[01:10] <jeff__> any kmplayer users in the house?
[01:11] <jeff__> know how to get it out of minimal mode?
[01:11] <jeff__> gangsters?
[01:12] <Drakeson> minimal mode?
[01:13] <jeff__> yeah, i clicked minimal mode in kmplayer
[01:13] <jeff__> and i cant get it out of minimal mode because the buttons gone :-/
[01:14] <Drakeson> right click doesn't do anything?
[01:14] <beford> hey, i was using ubuntu (gnome) 5.10, i just did an apt-get dist-upgrade, and installed kubuntu-desktop, i used kdm too, but once i login in the box, it starts gnome, and not kde, any ideas?
[01:14] <jeff__> no :(
[01:14] <jeff__> you have to select kde as the session before you click login
[01:14] <jeff__> then it will ask if you want to make it default
[01:14] <beford> i didnt see that in the login screen
[01:14] <beford> let me check again
[01:15] <jeff__> k
[01:15] <beford> brb
[01:15] <Drakeson> jeff__: must be shortcut key try some keys on the keyboard ;)
[01:15] <jeff__> i am >.>
[01:16] <jeff__> oh there we go
[01:16] <jeff__> you guys should try kmplayer, its a pretty zippy little app
[01:16] <jeff__> plays everything
[01:16] <jeff__> with style
[01:18] <beford> damn, they need to make the "menu" button a litle bigger, thanks jeff__
[01:18] <beford> :D
[01:19] <jeff__> lol
[01:23] <roniez> hm.. where can i get kmplayer?
[01:23] <roniez> my apt-get cant find kmplayer.
[01:24] <Drakeson> I think you have to grab the source and compile it
[01:26] <Wikipedia-Gast49> why
[01:27] <jeff__> no no
[01:27] <jeff__> i got it with the add/remove dealy
[01:27] <jeff__> click the checkmark beside unsupported and the one beside proprietary
[01:27] <Wikipedia-Gast49> jeff sucks
[01:28] <slow-motion> n8
[01:30] <Howcomes> Whats a good FXP Client for Linux?
[01:30] <Wikipedia-Gast49> howcomes sucks
[01:30] <Howcomes> :P
[01:31] <Howcomes> There ARE legitimate uses of Site to Site transfers you know
[01:31] <Wikipedia-Gast49> howcomes sucks
[01:31] <Howcomes> ...
[01:31] <Howcomes> Wikipedia-Gast49 sucks
[01:31] <Wikipedia-Gast49> ou suck
[01:31] <crimsun> quit it.
[01:31] <Howcomes> Wikipedia-Gast49 sucks
[01:31] <Wikipedia-Gast49> crimsun sucks
[01:32] <Wikipedia-Gast49> howcomes sucks
[01:32] <crimsun> I what?
[01:32] <Howcomes> Wikipedia-Gast49 sucks
[01:32] <Howcomes> I think he said you suck crimsun, ive got the logs to prove it
[01:38] <_nyn_> i just opened kmail, findind it strange that no mail had arrived, only to find out that my inbox, all folders actually, were empty.
[01:38] <_nyn_> there used to be hundreds of messages there
[01:38] <_nyn_> despair
[01:38] <_nyn_> closed kmail, reopened again
[01:39] <_nyn_> the previous number of messages appeared, but only for one second, then it all vanished
[01:39] <_nyn_> checked the size of .kde directory, and it was tiny
[01:39] <_nyn_> anything i could do? any ideas?
[01:40] <_nyn_> my latest backup was many months old, as i'm currently having a problem with my local network, where i store backups
[01:43] <_nyn_> contacts are still there
[01:46] <_nyn_> thanks a lot!
[01:59] <andre_> How do I stop the updater from upgrading mplayer?  I built my own and it wants to reinstall it again.
[02:00] <visik7> hold it
[02:00] <andre_> visik7: How?
[02:00] <visik7> echo "pakagename hold" | dpkg --set-selections
[02:00] <mrfishhat> kan(some kde humor)  i get some help with some network related issues?
[02:01] <visik7> explain the problem don't ask for help
[02:01] <mrfishhat> well no matter what i change the settings to
[02:01] <andre_> visik7: thanks, is there a way to do that using adept or adept_updater?
[02:02] <visik7> dunno probably
[02:02] <mrfishhat> as soon as i hit apply
[02:02] <visik7> I don't use GUI frontend for apt
[02:02] <mrfishhat> revets back
[02:18] <Kadran> i need to know how to make a partition to be auto mounted?
[02:19] <Riddell> Kadran: use disk & filesystems in system settings
[02:20] <Kadran> Riddell: i have opened it but i didn't know how to mount a partition
[02:22] <Riddell> Kadran: add a new one, fill in the boxes including mount at boot and it will be mounted on next boot
[02:23] <Riddell> sudo mount -a  will do it as well
[02:23] <Kadran> Riddell: thanks
[02:27] <Cilindrador> i have this huge problem concerning burned DVDs, which i cant read no matter what.  /// Data dvds w/ video files whose filesystem is iso9660+joliet are not accessed at all. /// I've documented the best i can @ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=963336 and would appreciate any help.
[02:31] <stevekl> Openoffice is trying to tell me that Britishness isn's a word
[02:31] <stevekl> well i'll show it!
[02:32] <beford> argh, i've just installed kubuntu-desktop over and i cant play my stuff with amarok :( xmms works, any ideas?
[02:34] <visik7> beford: change backend
[02:34] <visik7> or add plugins to the backend u are using
[02:43] <at1as> anyone using postfix and multiple alias_maps?
[02:43] <at1as> Do you have "newaliases" rehashing each configured alias_map correctly?
[02:52] <fyrmedic> How do I set the framerate for the fglrx driver?
[03:58] <maximus2000> How can I program a button to pop up the kmenu? I think I need to use dcop for this correct?
[04:00] <ablyss> maximus2000:  rightclick kemnu and select menu editor
[04:15] <stevekl> I'm sorry, Katapult sucks
[04:15] <stevekl> it just does
[04:15] <stevekl> for various reasons
[04:15] <stevekl> they need to work on it more and then maybe it will be good
[04:15] <stevekl> kopete used to suck and then they got it right
[04:21] <_bon> hi i have been set the task of creating a file sever and was wondering if anyone one could save me some time tomorrow as what to do   - planing on kubuntu on the sever then there 3 hubs and about 8 computers with most xp on them and one mac and i would like the computers to update the sever when they shut down - any help would be good
[04:22] <mrfishhat> stevekl: what do you use instead of katapult?
[04:22] <stevekl> mrfishhat: alt-f2 I guess. I'm still coming up with alternatives
[04:22] <stevekl> all I know is that I don't like katapult or the way it works heh
[04:23] <d> um hi how do i identify myself on freenode?
[04:23] <mrfishhat> stevekl: i see, personally i dont mind it.
[04:23] <stevekl> Well i dont mind its presence because it stays in the background
[04:23] <stevekl> I just think it could be improved
[04:23] <stevekl> I don't disable it or anything
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> How so?
[04:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> The improvment that is, not the disabling part. :P
[04:24] <stevekl> Well I can't get its 'program catalog' to include things like kcontrol and other stuff
[04:24] <stevekl> it only seems to want to launch specific things
[04:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> It launches stuff in the K Menu
[04:25] <stevekl> So I have to add it to the kmenu
[04:25] <stevekl> ?
[04:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, that will work.
[04:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> I've done it. :)
[04:25] <stevekl> hm
[04:26] <stevekl> Can't I just get it to read all the programs in my $PATH?
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dunno
[04:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> Apparently not.
[04:27] <stevekl> yeah I tried that
[04:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> Doesn't look like there is a way.
[04:29] <stevekl> Well I didn't know I had to add to the kmenu
[04:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> kmenuedit from a console
[04:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm, the katapult in the repos is 3 versions behind. :o
[04:31] <stevekl> Am I the only KDE user who doesn't use adept? :o
[04:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Nope.
[04:31] <stevekl> ok
[04:32] <stevekl> on the forums everyone's like "use adept blah blah"
[04:32] <stevekl> I just use apt-get and stuff
[04:32] <stevekl> it's easy enough
[04:32] <Seantater> I use apt get so much I made aliases for each command that apt takes
[04:32] <stevekl> I think it's funny how there's threads that say "In order to install xyz, open adept and blahblah"
[04:32] <stevekl> Wouldn't it be easier to just say
[04:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> I usually tell people to use 'sudo apt-get blah' (and other command line tools) because it's easier than describing the GUI
[04:32] <Seantater> inst for install rmv for remove upd for update
[04:32] <stevekl> "In order to install xyz, type 'sudo apt-get install xyz'
[04:32] <stevekl> or am I missing something about adept
[04:33] <Seantater> Most places say sudo apt blah blah blah now..
[04:33] <Seantater> at least that I know of
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Seantater: Probably because it's easier, and more universal. :)
[04:33] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: that's why I use it
[04:34] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: but for me personally, I just cannot stand how slow adept filters when I know exactly what I want to install
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, I know it.
[04:34] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: ever use apt-cache search
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> All the time.
[04:35] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: same here -- I just wish it was more tabbed and easier to read
[04:35] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: but I bet that could be arranged
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Doesn't bother me, but when I'm searching I'm usually searching for a fairly specific package.
[04:36] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: yes, but when I look up xine -- I have to look through 2^32 results!
[04:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol, yeah
[04:38] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: I bet you could have colors, tabs, order of relevancy, etc..
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ever used aptitude?
[04:38] <Seantater> no -- is it different>
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah, run it and see. :)
[04:40] <Seantater> it suggest 1 removal 3 keep and an upgrade, but apt does not say the same thing?
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Strange.
[04:40] <Seantater> it says 4 are broken
[04:41] <Seantater> apt does not agree
[04:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> Trust apt. :P
[04:41] <Seantater> I do
[04:41] <_deux> is there a way to move from Breezy to Dapper without reinstalling ?
[04:41] <Seantater> Wonder what would cause that..
[04:41] <Seantater> _deux: yes
[04:41] <Seantater> !upgrading
[04:41] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[04:42] <_deux> OK thanks
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> Does upgrading to Dapper still break the system?
[04:42] <Seantater> _deux: read the second part of what ubotu just said
[04:42] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: no, to my knowledge, it never did
[04:42] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: it's really easy
[04:43] <Seantater> kubuntu_rocks: I aggree with your nick
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, I've from that several people that upgrading to Dapper flight 6 broke the system.
[04:43] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: that was an x issue
[04:43] <kubuntu_rocks> Seantater: ya i agree just this latest beta 2 sucks ass
[04:44] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: just read the dapper forums for recent problems befre upgrading
[04:44] <kubuntu_rocks> Seantater: I installed it from scratch from a cd and it didn't even prompt me to create a user
[04:44] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: is nothing/not reporting common problems, go for it!
[04:44] <Seantater> kubuntu_rocks: hum -- that does not sound good
[04:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> Seantater: Kubuntu is my main OS, I'd rather not use non-stable builds.
[04:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> Anyway, when I tried the Live CD I couldn't get my wireless card on.
[04:45] <kubuntu_rocks> Seantater: i didn't mind i created my own user and started kde and did an upgrade so the issues should be fixed.. i just have to reboot to make sure
[04:45] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: To me, it's as stable as breezy, but wait a month and it will be even better..
[04:46] <kubuntu_rocks> Seantater: i agree
[04:46] <kubuntu_rocks> few little minor issues i've found.. other than that its good
[04:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> Like I said, I couldn't get my wireless card on, that was a deal breaker. :P
[04:46] <kubuntu_rocks> CheeseBurgerMan: what card do you use?
[04:46] <_deux> I think I'm good now :) thanks
[04:46] <Seantater> kubuntu_rocks: but breezy had more problems in the clock than dapper has altogether
[04:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> kubuntu_rocks: It's a broadcom, I'm not sure which one exatly
[04:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> exactly*
[04:47] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: the model makes a difference..
[04:47] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan:  I;m 98% sure mine is broadcom wireless 4318..
[04:48] <kubuntu_rocks> totally.. broadcoms arent that good anyways i've found
[04:48] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan:  I have not tried kubuntu, but pclinux can use it, but as a beta, pclinux is quite unstable..
[04:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> Whichever one I have is natively detected by Kubuntu.
[04:49] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: the reason I have not tried kubuntu is beacuse I don;t want to somehow destroy the month's work it took..
[04:49] <Seantater> four people left recently..
[04:49] <Seantater> I think my breath is bad..
[04:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> Anyone here on amd64 and wanting the latest version of katapult?
[04:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> That would be a "No"
[04:53] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: not really
[04:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> So I saw. ;)
[04:53] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: how do I use katapult anyway?
[04:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> Alt+Space
[04:53] <Seantater> and from there?
[04:54] <Seantater> looks neat..
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> then type in the name of the program
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Or file/folder in your home dir
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then press enter (if you couldn't guess)
[04:55] <Seantater> neat
[04:55] <Seantater> files in / work too
[04:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> in /?
[04:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> I know they do in your home folder
[04:55] <Seantater> oops -- only tmp
[04:55] <Seantater> nothing else
[04:56] <Seantater> oh -- nevermind, tmp's in my ~..
[04:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> It does your Amaork library too, but seems to only do it while Amarok is running. :\
[04:56] <Seantater> you're right
[04:56] <Seantater> okay - I'll try it
[04:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> Still, that and YaKuake are a couple of my favorite apps. :)
[04:57] <Seantater> see ya later
[04:57] <Seantater> CheeseBurgerMan: mine too
[05:00] <fatejudger> what's the best way to extract an iso in Kubuntu?
[05:01] <Kadran> fatejudger: try kiso
[05:01] <Lorenzod> Hi, can somebody confirm if kaffeine actually works on current dapper?
[05:02] <Kadran> Lorenzod: i run movies in Kaffeine and it work fine
[05:02] <fatejudger> Kadran: I can't seem to extract it, only mount it
[05:02] <Lorenzod> Kadran: thanks.
[05:02] <LeeJunFan> Lorenzod: there's very little I can't play with it.
[05:03] <LeeJunFan> Lorenzod: of course you need the restricted mplayer codecs.
[05:03] <Kadran> fatejudger: i do mount iso images with kiso
[05:03] <fatejudger> Kadran: I don't want to mount it, I want to extract it
[05:03] <fatejudger> Kadran: I need to put it on my USB flash drive
[05:03] <Lorenzod> LeeJunFan: I user kmplayer currently, as kaffeine hangs on start-up.
[05:04] <fatejudger> kmplayer is completely unusable for me
[05:04] <fatejudger> neither xine, nor gstreamer work
[05:04] <fatejudger> in kmplayer that is
[05:04] <fatejudger> Kaffeine works great though
[05:05] <Lorenzod> fatejudger: it works okay for me, as long as I use mplayer "engine".
[05:05] <Kadran> Lorenzod: i guess there was a problem with kaffeine and Xorg and when you upgrade both they work fine
[05:05] <fatejudger> that only works for music for me
[05:05] <fatejudger> which isn't what I need it for
[05:05] <Lorenzod> Kadran: I see. I'm up-to-date though, and it still freezes.. :-(
[05:05] <fatejudger> so no one knows of any program for Linux to extract an iso?
[05:06] <Lorenzod> fatejudger: what do you mean? You can always mount the iso..
[05:06] <fatejudger> and then take the files off that way
[05:06] <Kadran> fatejudger: the only trick i know is to mount it first sorry :(
[05:06] <fatejudger> I guess
[05:07] <Lorenzod> Hm.. I just tried starting kaffeine again, but it still freezes. :-(
[05:08] <Lorenzod> Could somebody try launching kaffeine from a terminal and summarizing what happens?
[05:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/697350
[05:11] <Lorenzod> okay, thanks. Does kaffeine release your terminal after this?
[05:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yep
[05:12] <Lorenzod> Okay, thanks.
[05:12] <Lorenzod> Hm.. I wonder if I should purge/re-install xine..
[05:13] <Lorenzod> I don't mind kmplayer really, but I don't like the way it handles the playlist..
[05:13] <Lorenzod> codeine is nice in a way, but maybe a bit too simplistic..
[05:14] <d> crimsun!
[05:15] <d> ioi
[05:15] <d> oi
[05:20] <fatejudger> me2win: I hate you
[05:20] <me2win> fatejudger: i <3 you
[05:26] <fatejudger> lol
[05:42] <kevman> Can someone point me to a correct sources.list? Mine seems to not have what I need.
[05:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> !sources
[05:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> There. :)
[05:50] <unperson> Anyone know how to get mozilla to use the mplayer plugin to play video rather than the xine plugin?
[05:50] <unperson> er, rather than the *totem* plugin, I mean.
[06:03] <paulo> hi all!!! =)
[06:10] <GullyFoyle> is there a firefox for amd64 in a repo somewhere?
[06:10] <GullyFoyle> firefox 1.5 that is
[06:12] <me2win> GullyFoyle: not sure
[06:13] <GullyFoyle> i feel left behind still using 1.07
[06:14] <b-_-d> how big is min install
[06:14] <b-_-d> working with mem drive :(
[06:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> GullyFoyle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:19] <b-_-d> forget it i will just try
[06:32] <stupendo44> will ff1.5 ever be in the breezy repos?
[06:32] <stupendo44> why isn't it yet?
[06:37] <b-_-d> installing now
[06:37] <b-_-d> will the install fail?
[06:43] <Khaotik> Hi all, Anyone here know how to set up a MAC Media Netowork Bridge under Kubuntu?
[06:58] <olaff> how can i make an screenshot
[06:58] <olaff> ?
[06:59] <MEtaLpREs> point your digital camera at the screen :)
[06:59] <olaff> -.-
[06:59] <Khaotik> lol
[07:00] <olaff> please? :(
[07:00] <Khaotik> Go to the KDE button then go to Grapics
[07:00] <Khaotik> then go to Ksnapshot if ur on Kubuntu
[07:01] <Khaotik> Graphics*
[07:02] <Khaotik> or run ksnapshot in konsole
[07:02] <olaff> ty
[07:02] <olaff> :)
[07:02] <Khaotik> :) np
[07:10] <kwtm> Hello
[07:10] <Khaotik> hi
[07:30] <jak08> well i can see that this is an exciting channel
[07:39] <noiesmo> anyone know how to stop amarok displaying the next track everytime it changes songs
[08:16] <Chani> what needs to be installed to play avi files in kaffeine?
[08:22] <noiesmo> ubotu, tell Chani about avi
[08:27] <Chani> yeesh, that seems complicated. I know I got it working more easily on my bf's comp... I'll leave my friend with mplayer until I can actually go to her house and se what kafeine's doing wrong.
[08:33] <firephoto> Chani: i think you're looking for libxine-extracodecs
[08:34] <firephoto> you'll need the universe/multiverse/whateververse stuff..... ;)
[09:00] <t4ter> hey all if I installed dapper ubuntu can I swith to the kde interface and remove gnome easily?
[09:04] <noiesmo> t4ter, cooool
[09:04] <t4ter> whats cool?
[09:04] <noiesmo> hey all if I installed dapper ubuntu can I swith to the kde interface and remove gnome easily?
[09:05] <noiesmo> t4ter, sorry mis read
[09:05] <t4ter> lol
[09:05] <noiesmo> Dooh
[09:06] <noiesmo> t4ter, yes you can switch easliy thru session type at logon screen
[09:06] <t4ter> ok coolio thanks
[09:41] <visik7> anyone here using ifplugd ?
[10:18] <Den> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[10:19] <Hobbsee> Den: which repos are you using?
[10:19] <Den> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[10:19] <Den> HI - I'm getting an error message when I try to apt-get dist-upgrade for the purpose of installing the latest KDE sw (KDE 3.5.2 Released with Kubuntu Packages) into Kubuntu Breezy.  Following the instructions there, I did wget the key then "sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg".  BUt, I'm getting an ""
[10:19] <Den> Er, couldn't get that entered properly.
[10:20] <Den> Repository is:   deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy main
[10:20] <Den> Hobbsee: Any ideas?
[10:20] <Hobbsee> Den: you can ignore that
[10:21] <Hobbsee> but that should be accepted if you got the key in correctly
[10:21] <Den> Ok, but why is it giving that msg?
[10:23] <Den> Hobbsee: You know the web page with those instructions, right? (I last was at that page a day or two ago, & don't have the exact url here right now, but I saved the text of the page & followed the instructions for wget & apt-key. - so, I shouldn't get that msg, right?
[10:23] <Hobbsee> because it's not part of the official repos...
[10:23] <Hobbsee> that's correct...
[10:24] <Hobbsee> do the sudo apt-key add whateverthekeyis, and see if it says "OK" or "no trusted keys found"
[10:24] <Den> Hobbsee: It said "OK" when I just redid it about 4 min ago.
[10:24] <Hobbsee> hmmm okay
[10:24] <Den> Hobbsee: I think I got that "no trusted keys found" msg the first time I did the key, but I can't recall for sure
[10:25] <Den> sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[10:25] <Den> Password:
[10:25] <Den> OK
[10:25] <Hobbsee> Den: and the message is definetly for that repo?  not others?
[10:26] <Den> I think so - I followed the instructions on the KDE packages page exactly
[10:27] <Hobbsee> Den: okay, want to pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:27] <Hobbsee> seems weird that you're getting a warning
[10:27] <Den> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[10:27] <Hobbsee> which you can just ignore
[10:33] <Den> Hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13381
[10:33] <morrow> !kxdocker
[10:33] <ubotu> morrow: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:34] <Den> Hobbsee: Any ideas?
[10:34] <Hobbsee> Den: and where's the kubuntu repo in that lot?
[10:34] <Den> first line?
[10:34] <Hobbsee> ah yes
[10:34] <Hobbsee> add that line to the bottom of !repos
[10:34] <Hobbsee> !repos
[10:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:34] <Hobbsee> you're missing some of the important ones - like main.
[10:38] <visik7> anyone here using ifplugd ?
[10:40] <Den> Hobbsee: In my sources.list paste, line 6 has main, & line 26 has universe & multiverse - Isn't that all you're telling me I need??  Or, are you saying I have to put the "kde352" at the _end_ of my sources.list file???
[10:41] <Hobbsee> ah, i missed it.
[10:41] <Hobbsee> it'll work wherever you put it
[10:41] <Den> Hobbsee: Ok, np, any suggestions what the problem is?
[10:41] <Hobbsee> Den: no...but it's a warning - you can ignore it
[10:42] <Hobbsee> as long as you trust the packages that come from there - whcih you can, because it is an official one
[10:43] <visik7> i'm stupid
[10:43] <Vampis> yes
[10:43] <Vampis> ;)
[10:43] <Hobbsee> visik7: i doubt that.  why so?
[10:44] <Den> Hobbsee: But it seems improper to ignore the warning since I've _specifically_ put the key in _to ensure things are OK & there are no warnings_.
[10:44] <Hobbsee> i guess
[10:45] <Den> Hobbsee: If I _hadn't_ put the key in, & got a warning, no surprise - but when I _do_ put the key in, there _shouldn't_ be a warning - something must be wrong - correct??
[10:46] <Hobbsee> Den: which packages does it say are unauthenticated?
[10:46] <Den> & so, what must be wrong?
[10:46] <Den> Hobbsee: A lot - maybe all of the KDE packages
[10:46] <Den> I can paste if yo want to see exactly
[10:47] <Hobbsee> Den: paste the full thing into pastebin...
[10:48] <Den> Hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13382
[10:49] <Den> Hobbsee: Suggestions?
[10:50] <Hobbsee> Den: not a clue.  but if the key is added correclty, and said okay, it may well be a problem upstream, rather than at your computer
[10:50] <Den> Hobbsee: So, should I notify someone, or will you notify them?
[10:51] <Hobbsee> Den: i'll do it...
[10:51] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ping?
[10:51] <Den> Hobbsee: In the mean time - how much problem could it be if I do the upgrade now, when it says it dcan't verify?
[10:52] <Hobbsee> Den: shouldnt be a problem at all - like i say, it's only a warning
[10:52] <Den> OK, - note in that paste that it's gong to remove "kubuntu-desktop" - that's OK??
[10:53] <Den> Hobbsee: ^?
[10:54] <Hobbsee> Den: yes, but after it finishes the upgrade, do a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop again
[10:55] <Den> Hobbsee: I would have never thought to do that on my own - therefore I now am concerned that there might also be _other_ things I have to do to get a working system, after doing this upgrade -
[10:55] <Den> Hobbsee: Is there anything else I might need to do?
[10:55] <Hobbsee> Den: after installing kubuntu-desktop, after the upgrade, type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[10:56] <Hobbsee> that'll restart X, which will give you your new kde...
[10:56] <Den> Hobbsee: And anything else?
[10:56] <Hobbsee> not that i remember
[10:56] <Hobbsee> it'll be fine
[10:56] <Dr3as> i use ssh -X to run some programs on my server at home, but is it possible to do something like screen, that makes it possible to deattach and den later attach again?
[10:57] <Den> Hobbsee: So, If I hadn't noticed that k-destop thing - I'd have been left with an improperly setup system?
[10:57] <Hobbsee> Den: no, it would have worked - but you might have had a bit of trouble trying to upgrade to dapper, for eg
[10:57] <Den> Hobbsee: OK, & how about the other things it's removing - anything else I need to do about any of them?
[10:58] <Hobbsee> Den: no, they looked fine
[10:58] <Den> Hobbsee: Thanks! :)
[10:58] <Hobbsee> it wasnt trying to remove all of kde, which tends to be rather unpleasant :P
[10:58] <Hobbsee> done that once...i hope to never again do it!
[11:01] <nrdb> if I do a 'cat main.c > /dev/lp0' it should print something?
[11:01] <Hobbsee> nrdb: if the file main.c exists, then yes, it should...i think
[11:04] <nrdb> Hobbsee: I get a permission denied.  I am in the lp group (just done that), I don't have a printer but I set the default printer as the printer to pdf virtual printer.
[11:04] <Hobbsee> hmmm...
[11:05] <nrdb> Hobbsee: do you know where I can find an example on how to get a C program to print?
[11:05] <Hobbsee> er...google?
[11:05] <Hobbsee> and therefore useless :P
[11:06] <nrdb> Hobbsee: already tried that no luck, seems to be very little info on the subject.
[11:10] <ph8> hi all, i've just performed a broken dapper upgrade
[11:10] <ph8> alert! can't find /dev/sda5 on startup, found something on google that reckons dapper calls it /dev/sde5 first rather than sda, so i'm just altering grub's menu.lst to see if that'll work
[11:10] <ph8> question is, can i alter files using explore2fs from my windows partition?
[11:10] <ph8> or do i need something sexier?
[11:11] <Vampis> hm, how can I change the bootsplash screen in kubuntu ? I hate the blue kubuntu-thingy :P
[11:11] <Vampis> I'd like the default text-mode
[11:11] <ph8> the program's called usplash
[11:11] <Vampis> spanx
[11:11] <ph8> there might be a usplash.conf somewhere?
[11:12] <Vampis> :D
[11:12] <Vampis> /usr/share/doc/usplash/README
[11:12] <Vampis> hm, didnt help alot *keeps looking*
[11:13] <ph8> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[11:13] <ph8> first result in google
[11:13] <Vampis> I got a german result :)
[11:14] <Hobbsee> ph8: you cant modify the linux files from explore2fs
[11:14] <ph8> or from any drivers i can find :(
[11:14] <ph8> all i can get into on boot is this busybox thing
[11:14] <Hobbsee> however, you can hit "e" when in the grub menu, which will let you edit whatever you like - then hit "b" to boot
[11:14] <ph8> ah orgasmic
[11:14] <ph8> hopefully this will be all the problem is, but somehow i doubt it
[11:14] <ph8> I hope it'll be fixed before dapper goes mainstream
[11:14] <ph8> back in a minute!
[11:22] <ph8> ok, that didn't work
[11:22] <pedro> Hi everyone
[11:22] <ph8> i'm a bit stuck, does anyone have any idea what could be wrong? (problem mentioned above before i quit)
[11:23] <pedro> I have got an error message everytime I try to start "Kwrite" with sudo
[11:23] <ph8> if dapper's using the 2.6.15 kernel, as i've seen somewhere - it hasn't been installed - grub options still show 2.6.12
[11:23] <pedro> http://www.mypastebin.com/?code=1997508561
[11:23] <Hobbsee> !tell pedro about kdesu
[11:23] <Hobbsee> pedro: you should be able to ignore that
[11:24] <Hobbsee> ph8: so all the locations looked right?  with /dev/sda5 and the image booting from the correct place?
[11:25] <pedro> well
[11:25] <ph8> there's no /dev/sda5 in /dev
[11:25] <pedro> I tried to use kdesu and the message is the same
[11:25] <ph8> only /dev/hdc, some tty stuff
[11:25] <ph8> and some other bits and pieces
[11:25] <ph8> but no sda*
[11:25] <ph8> it was a bit of a shot in the dark with sda -> sde
[11:25] <Hobbsee> ph8: what should the drive be mounted as then?  should be the same as it was in breezy
[11:26] <ph8> it was sda5 in breezy
[11:26] <pedro> any help?
[11:26] <zm0> ph8: you should give this ext2/ext3 driver a try: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[11:26] <ph8> that pastebin site's very slow pedro
[11:27] <ph8> cheers, i'll remember it if i need it
[11:27] <pedro> do you want I paste the message here?
[11:27] <ph8> no
[11:27] <ph8> use pastebin.com
[11:27] <ph8> or pastebin.it
[11:27] <ph8> something that's not laggy
[11:27] <ph8> actually n/m
[11:27] <ph8> it's loaded now
[11:28] <ph8> any ideas Hobbsee? Google's got quite a few occurences
[11:28] <Hobbsee> ph8: does booting into a recovery console work?
[11:28] <pedro> http://pastebin.com/697648
[11:28] <ph8> good question, i might give that a go
[11:29] <pedro> Is it right now?
[11:30] <ph8> "Thank you for answer. I downloaded 2.6.15 kernel and now it works Grin"
[11:30] <ph8> that seems to be the way of fixing it Hobbsee
[11:30] <ph8> but, how do i install a kernel package without being on the partition? :s
[11:31] <Hobbsee> hmmm...
[11:31] <pedro> isn't there suggestions?
[11:31] <Hobbsee> with great difficulty
[11:31] <ph8> bloody "switch to dapper, it's almost stable" people
[11:32] <Hobbsee> dist-upgrades are often risky - especially while still into development
[11:32] <ph8> that means i've got to download cd images
[11:32] <Hobbsee> that is true.
[11:32] <ph8> which will make my local JANET admins antsy
[11:32] <nagyv> Hello! I would like to use my kubuntu with a Xerox Phaser 3425, but I can't find the driver when adding the printer. What could I do?
[11:32] <Hobbsee> there are probably other ways
[11:32] <ph8> oh?
[11:32] <ph8> 2.6.10 tends to get a lot further but boot from that perspective culminates in a crashed usplash screen
[11:32] <Hobbsee> ph8: if you can get into the recovery console, you can reinstall grub.
[11:32] <Hobbsee> !grub
[11:32] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:33] <Hobbsee> has the details - second link
[11:33] <ph8> ok, i'll try the recovery console, then 2.6.10 fixage, then if that doesn't work i'll restore
[11:33] <ph8> cheers
[11:33] <Hobbsee> that usually helps
[11:33] <Hobbsee> well, if you can get in there, it's easier to troubleshoot..
[11:33] <Hobbsee> and then you can use startx to get back to a GUI, if you wish
[11:34] <ph8> so when you say a clean install
[11:34] <ph8> you mean back to breezy?
[11:34] <ph8> or can i download dapper disks?
[11:37] <ph8> thx for your help
[11:37] <pedro> well
[11:37] <pedro> sorry for my clumsiness
[11:37] <pedro> I am a newbie
[11:37] <pedro> I am trying to solve my problem and I cannot
[11:38] <pedro> I would be glad to have some help
[11:38] <Hobbsee> darn, was too late.  for when he comes back, i meant dapper disks.
[11:38] <visik7> pedro: put the question
[11:38] <pedro> ok
[11:38] <pedro> I repeat
[11:39] <Hobbsee> pedro: if the program is still opening, you can usually ignore that.  it also seems to come up with adept
[11:39] <Hobbsee> hey Den - how'd it go?
[11:39] <Den> Hobbsee: will have a question for you in a sec
[11:39] <Hobbsee> hehe okay
[11:40] <Hobbsee> dunno if i can answer it
[11:40] <pedro> When I start Kwrite with sudo or kdesu I always got an error message
[11:40] <pedro> http://pastebin.com/697648
[11:41] <pedro> what do you mean with "it also seems to come up with adept"?
[11:41] <pedro> what is adept?
[11:41] <Hobbsee_away> pedro: another kde program - package manager
[11:41] <pedro> I don't have it installed
[11:41] <Den> Hobbsee: The upgrade bsically went ok, one small problem - the panel disappeared, & I couldn't find it till I put my mouse on the left bottom - so then I adjusted that to full bottom.
[11:42] <Den> Hobbsee_away: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13383  Can you look at that?
[11:42] <Hobbsee_away> Den: that's weird...wonder how it got hidden to one side...
[11:43] <Den> Hobbsee_away: That is about kubuntu-desktop depends on akode
[11:43] <Hobbsee_away> so i see...
[11:43] <pedro> well
[11:43] <Den> Hobbsee_away: Any suggestion about what I should do about kubuntu-desktop?
[11:43] <pedro> thanks very much
[11:43] <pedro> I have to go
[11:43] <pedro> see you ;)
[11:44] <Hobbsee_away> Den: probably install it anyway, and remove those other packages
[11:44] <Hobbsee_away> unless you like using juk, of course
[11:45] <Den> Hobbsee_away: can yo wait a min?
[11:45] <Hobbsee_away> i'm being called for dinner
[11:45] <Den> Hobbsee_away: er
[11:45] <Den> Hobbsee_away: i need multimedia - audio - what do I do?
[11:45] <Hobbsee_away> use amarok
[11:46] <Hobbsee_away> no point having a few million media players :P
[11:46] <Den> Hobbsee_away: regarding removing those packages??
[11:46] <Den> kdebultimedia?
[11:46] <Den> Riddell: Are you here?
[11:48] <Den> Anyone here to answer some KDE upgrade questions??
[11:50] <XVampireX> My friend is asking how to connect kubuntu to the internet through a USB modem (adsl)
[11:51] <visik7> XVampireX: depending on the modem
[11:51] <visik7> usb modem are crappy hardware
[11:52] <XVampireX> b-focus usb 160
[11:53] <visik7> what google says ?
[11:53] <XVampireX> What should I search in google?
[11:54] <visik7> linux b-focus usb 160 ?
[11:54] <visik7> mmm
[11:54] <visik7> seems to be supported by eciadsl
[11:54] <visik7> apt-get install eciadsl
[11:56] <visik7> http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/modems.php?lang=en&modem=1
[11:56] <visik7> http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/doc.php
[11:56] <visik7> should be enough
[11:57] <XVampireX> okey
[11:59] <XVampireX> visik7: Can he get the thing from the website or only from apt-get?
[11:59] <XVampireX> Cause how can he get that if he's not connected to the internet in the first place :P
[12:00] <visik7> yes he can get also from the site
[12:00] <visik7> but apt is cleaner :)
[12:00] <XVampireX> nevermind I asked :P
[12:00] <XVampireX> Yeah :P
[12:00] <XVampireX> but he is not connected to the internet, so...
[12:03] <XVampireX> But thanks :)
[12:05] <visik7> XVampireX: is a laptop ?
[12:05] <visik7> btw
[12:06] <visik7> he can get .deb from packages.ubuntu.com and install via dpkg -i package.deb
[12:06] <XVampireX> Yes I know
[12:07] <XVampireX> Yeah, laptop
[12:07] <XVampireX> I know dpkg :P
[12:09] <visik7> http://www.osweekly.com/
[12:10] <XVampireX> Doesn't work :P
[12:11] <visik7> got root
[12:17] <_alex> hi zusammen
[12:18] <_alex> hab nen problem mit meinem frisch installierten kubuntu - und zwar kann ich mich nicht aus superuser authen
[12:18] <_alex> aus = als
[12:18] <_alex> bei der installation wurde ich nach einem einzigen pwd gefragt, aber das frisst er nicht
[12:21] <mindspin> !de
[12:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[12:32] <Riddell> Hobbsee_away: hmm?
[12:33] <Hobbsee_away> Riddell: seems to be a problem with your repos...read the log - the stuff from Den
[12:35] <Hobbsee_away> Riddell: seems to be an WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! message even after adding your key, no unnoffical repos, and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13383 as an error message - with dependancies
[12:35] <toomai> hi all
[12:36] <Riddell> Hobbsee_away: there's no authentication error there
[12:37] <Hobbsee_away> Riddell: no, that was from above...
[12:37] <Hobbsee_away> oh...i dunno..
[12:37] <Hobbsee_away> maybe it did finally accept the key...
[12:37] <Riddell> and akode will do that, the package name has changed, not much I can do to fix that
[12:37] <Hobbsee_away> the second half of it is the bigger issue, it seems - on adding that repo, and upgrading, it wants to remove k-d
[12:39] <ph8> Hey all, anyone who was following my problems above ^^ - i've now managed to get into my build by using the 2.6.10 kernel - unfortunately it doesn't seem to recognise any usb devices so i can't backup
[12:39] <ph8> lsusb returns nothing
[12:39] <ph8> lspci seems to know things are there
[12:39] <ph8> has anyone got any ideas that could help me out?
[12:39] <ph8> if i could get it to recognise eth0 i'm thinking i could install the proper kernel and that might save me all this reinstalling trouble
[12:49] <_cansa> !update
[12:49] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _cansa
[12:49] <_cansa> !dapper
[12:49] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:49] <_cansa> !acpi
[12:49] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _cansa
[01:18] <Tonio_> yop
[01:19] <Vampis> snopp
[01:35] <theunholy1> how do i create a shortcut for firefox1.5
[01:35] <theunholy1> i have installed it
[01:35] <Vampis> Create where ?
[01:35] <Vampis> on the desktop ?
[01:35] <Vampis> or what ?
[01:35] <Vampis> Or in the start-menu ?
[01:35] <theunholy1> desktop & menu
[01:35] <Vampis> in KDE ?
[01:36] <theunholy1> yes
[01:36] <Vampis> For the startmenu: Run kmenuedit
[01:36] <Vampis> then add it
[01:36] <Vampis> then on the desktop
[01:36] <Vampis> Rightclick, and choose Add link to application
[01:36] <theunholy1> actually
[01:36] <theunholy1> my firefox
[01:37] <theunholy1> i just extract it
[01:37] <Vampis> huh ?
[01:38] <theunholy1> means
[01:38] <theunholy1> it is a .zip file
[01:38] <theunholy1> i just extract it
[01:38] <Vampis> firefox in a zip file?
[01:38] <Vampis> ;)
[01:38] <theunholy1> yup
[01:38] <Vampis> whats wrong with sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox ? =)
[01:39] <theunholy1> ???
[01:39] <theunholy1> whats that?
[01:39] <Vampis> hum, are you in the right channel?!
[01:39] <Vampis> ;)
[01:39] <theunholy1> huh?
[01:39] <theunholy1> wdv
[01:40] <Vampis> wdv ?
[01:40] <Vampis> hmms
[01:47] <Hobbsee> Vampis: it should be working.  perhaps you want firefox, not mozilla-firefox?
[01:48] <genio> hi
[01:49] <genio> one question?!
[01:49] <genio> anybody can help me?!
[01:49] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[01:49] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[01:51] <kunutizado> when i restart the computer
[01:51] <kunutizado> the gw dont be saved in my computer
[01:51] <kunutizado> then
[01:51] <kunutizado> i must write in console: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[01:52] <kunutizado> how i can to make it automaticaly
[01:52] <kunutizado> (sorry for my english)
[01:52] <Hobbsee> kunutizado: you should be able to set that in the interfaces file.  man interfaces for the exact syntax
[01:53] <kunutizado> ok
[01:53] <kunutizado> i make an vim /etc/network/interfaces
[01:53] <kunutizado> and i can see the address, netmask...
[01:54] <kunutizado> now i must add....
[01:54] <kunutizado> gateway ...
[01:55] <kunutizado> i'm going to restart
[01:55] <DevGet> how to enable java in konqueror?
[01:55] <kunutizado> i return in a few moments
[01:57] <Vampis> Hobbsee: I didnt need help, the guy that parted ddi
[01:57] <Vampis> did *
[01:57] <Vampis> :)
[01:57] <Vampis> Thanks anyway
[01:57] <Hobbsee> ah
[02:02] <cansa> !ndiswrapper
[02:02] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is probably a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:08] <pgmi> i have ubuntu and installed kubuntu-desktop , but i still have gnome running , how do i put KDE active ?
[02:09] <Seantater> pgmi: log out, and in gdm choose to run kde
[02:09] <pgmi> okay , ty m8
[02:10] <Vampis> pgmi: Its located under sessions
[02:27] <drovosek> hi
[02:32] <Kadran> hi drovosek
[02:33] <Kadran> does any one knows a program that works like stardict
[02:36] <XydO> Kadran: what is StarDict ?
[02:37] <Kadran> XydO: it is a dictionary but i like the way it translate just by pointing to the word
[02:38] <Kadran> XydO: do you use any kind of dictionary pakages?
[02:39] <OdyX> Kadran: well.. only correction, not translation.
[02:52] <pvtloas> is there any resource i can access to find out how to get java running using nothing but open source sw?
[02:59] <Riddell> pvtloas: apt-get install gcj
[02:59] <Riddell> or something like that
[02:59] <pvtloas> i've done that. i've tried kaffe and something else
[03:00] <pvtloas> but i still have problems trying to run any java app
[03:03] <Hobbsee> woohoo!  java still crashes!  sure i shouldnt be playing pool anyway :P
[03:23] <larrywells> is there software for blocking certain websites??
[03:24] <Infecto> hello
[03:24] <Infecto> can some one tell me why my kaddresbook lost my contacts ?
[03:25] <Infecto> first i cant add an addres becaus app is locked
[03:25] <Infecto> lock  std.vcf  std.vcf_1  std.vcf_2  std.vcf_3  std.vcf_4  std.vcf_5  std.vcf_6  std.vcf_7  std.vcfKaR13b.new
[03:25] <Infecto> and when i cd to this directory /home/infecto/.kde/share/apps/kabc
[03:25] <Lorenzod> infecto: I haven't experienced this myself, but I've heard others say the same..
[03:26] <Infecto> hmm
[03:26] <Infecto> so this is not only my problem
[03:26] <Lorenzod> no I heard somebody mention it as late as yesterday.
[03:26] <larrywells> Isn't there a way to block some internet usage?
[03:26] <Lorenzod> But, but, I hope you read the warning signs about Dapper.
[03:27] <Infecto> thats the dapper problem ?
[03:27] <Lorenzod> It's not quite out the door yet. Issues can still arise.
[03:27] <Infecto> or in kaddresbook
[03:27] <Infecto> ok i understand that :)
[03:28] <Vampis> only problem with dapper I have is a printer problem
[03:28] <Vampis> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/39484
[03:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39484 in samba "cups smb printing backend no longer works" [Major,In progress] 
[03:28] <Vampis> That problem :P
[03:29] <bimberi> larrywells: putting entries in /etc/hosts that send unwanted addresses to 0.0.0.0 is one way - dansguardian is another
[03:30] <Infecto> 6.06 Beta 2  is in it aixgl ?
[03:31] <Infecto> larrywells: use iptables
[03:39] <Infecto> hmm
[03:39] <Infecto> again kmail: ERROR: The resource '/home/infecto/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf' is locked by application ''.
[03:42] <larrywells> How do you use iptables?
[03:42] <iNiku> larrywells: man iptables
[03:42] <iNiku> larrywells: http://www.netfilter.org/
[03:44] <gan|y|med> hallo
[03:48] <gan|y|med> how stable is dapper drake? is it already suitable for productive usage?
[03:48] <visik7> no
[03:50] <gan|y|med> but the release is set for june, right?
[03:50] <chowells> gan|y|med: It's the only OS on my laptop
[03:51] <virnik> Infecto: just delete lock in your home dir
[03:51] <virnik> Infecto: there is lock file
[03:55] <gan|y|med> chowells: what do you mean?
[03:55] <trym_> do I need to run a smp kernel for amd dualcore processors to work properly ?
[04:01] <mhterres> morning
[04:04] <ubuntu> hi
[04:05] <ubuntu> i need music
[04:05] <ubuntu> HALLO?"?!?!
[04:06] <Infecto> virnik: i know, what with my lost contacts ?
[04:06] <Infecto> is that will instantly repeat ?
[04:10] <haakonn> running beta2. knetworkmanager says "NetworkManager is not running". i had to apt it in manually after the upgrade from breezy. how would i get it working?
[04:10] <_gonzo> hello is there a C developper please
[04:15] <gan|y|med> ciao
[04:20] <toker> hi all
[04:20] <toker> :)
[04:20] <visik7> Infecto: no
[04:23] <OculusAquilae> _gonzo: what for?
[04:24] <andre_> how do I change login managers?
[04:26] <OldToker> Hi all I just tried the instructions from the site on how to upgrade my system when I put in the line it tells me to.. I get this any thoughts?
[04:26] <OldToker> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/698039
[04:27] <andre_> OldToker: the command is gksu not gksudo
[04:28] <trym_> do I need to run a smp kernel for amd dualcore processors to work properly ?
[04:28] <OldToker> ok thanks.. then the site needs updating :)
[04:28] <OldToker> trym_: still get command not found.
[04:29] <OldToker> err sorry trym_  that was supposed to go to andre_
[04:30] <OldToker> andre_ still getting command not found
[04:30] <hiasl> OldToker: do you have the gksu package installed?
[04:30] <OldToker> dunno.. I just finished installing breezy.. and doing the first updates.
[04:31] <OldToker> I assume not since it's not working..
[04:31] <hiasl> try apt-file, this command tells you which command is in which package.
[04:31] <ctothej> Anyone install linux on an ATI-based motherboard with 2 pci-e slots (crossfire capable)?
[04:33] <OldToker> it wasn't installed but is now I think.. I am totally new to apt.. Been in the Mandriva world... tilll now..
[04:35] <OldToker> hiasl: I think I am hitting the same problems I was having in Mandriva.. it's got to do with my Nvidia Card.. and no drivers being installed for it.
[04:35] <OldToker> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/698063
[04:36] <OldToker> but then again I could be wrong.
[04:41] <roniez> has anybody sucssefully setup a vnc server or a x11forwarding anytime?
[04:41] <gringo> h3sp4wn: hi. do you remember my wpa problem?
[04:42] <andre_> is the dude that made the adept-updater in here?
[04:42] <h3sp4wn> gringo: Sort of
[04:43] <gringo> h3sp4wn: i wasn't able to connect using wpa_supplicant
[04:43] <OldToker> ok now this is wierd.. my system won't let me run anything as root. says bad passowrd.. but yet I can su on command line and become root there????
[04:43] <rraajj> OldToker: Did you change your root password?
[04:44] <OldToker> don't think so..... i can become root on command line..
[04:44] <OldToker> using my root password.
[04:44] <OldToker> but anytime I try to run any thing in the GUI and the "Run as root" box comes up and I put in my root.. says bad passowrd.
[04:45] <rraajj> OldToker: I think it is looking for your sudoers password, which is your user's password.
[04:45] <Kadran> OldToker: why don't you try entering your user password
[04:45] <gringo> anyone has some experiences in XGL?
[04:45] <OldToker> ok please be patient with me.. this is my first attempt with kubuntu.
[04:45] <OldToker> :)
[04:46] <rraajj> OldToker: Being root and running things as root are different things in K/Ubuntu. :)
[04:46] <h3sp4wn> gringo: why have you fixed it ?
[04:47] <gringo> h3sp4wn: I just disabled the hidden SSID. I don't know why... but with a visible one it just works fine. Now I am using network-manager-kde.
[04:47] <Kadran> rraajj: that's true but i need to ask you a question, i was using mandriva and i didn't get used of not knowing my root password so i have changed it does that right?
[04:48] <OldToker> Ok.. I am getting a strange GTK error about not being able to open the display?
[04:48] <rraajj> Kadran: Sorry, I didn't think I got your question right...
[04:48] <h3sp4wn> gringo: is knetworkmanager reliable for you ? It kept on bringing my link down all the time
[04:48] <OldToker> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/698089
[04:48] <rraajj> Kadran: Are you asking me if it's alright to change your root password?
[04:48] <Kadran> rraajj: no problem, yes
[04:49] <rraajj> Kadran: It _is_ technically alright, but you can utilize sudo instead of switching to root and running things from there.
[04:49] <Kadran> rraajj: will this be a sucurity hole or something, i am new to kubuntu too
[04:49] <rraajj> Kadran: Just don't login as root, it is disabled in Kubuntu by default, btw.
[04:50] <gringo> h3sp4wn: it works fine for me. Ok there are some things that may could run better.
[04:50] <Kadran> rraajj: ok, thanks alot
[04:50] <rraajj> Kadran: You're welcome. :)
[04:50] <OldToker> If I wanted to install the Nvidia driver from nvidia.. how do I ensure that the kernel source is already installed before I attempt it?
[04:51] <OldToker> in kubuntu?
[04:58] <andre_> old-toker, install linux-restricted-modules
[04:58] <andre_> it should bring in the kernel source it requires.
[05:01] <trappist> andre_: oldtoker is gone, but I don't think linux-restricted-modules will install source - he wants to apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:02] <andre_> you don't need the source to install the nvidia modules do you?
[05:02] <andre_> I dont think I install them
[05:02] <trappist> to install the ones from nvidia.com, yeah - they need to be built, and that requires kernel headers
[05:02] <andre_> i se.
[05:02] <andre_> oh well. :) I'm out
[05:08] <gringo> I want to change the icon for my external USB Disk (it appears as a USB Stick). How do I do that?
[05:09] <roniez> right click on it?
[05:14] <Kadran> is there is a way to run my hsf modem in kubuntu?
[05:21] <DrBair> I <3 squid
[05:22] <XVampireX> You do
[05:27] <stamen81> hi
[05:27] <stamen81> I have a question ofcourse :)
[05:27] <stamen81> could anybody help me
[05:27] <OculusAquilae> stamen81: ask, then we know if we can help
[05:27] <stamen81> ok :)
[05:28] <stamen81> how can I make visible the icons of the mounted media in Storage media
[05:28] <stamen81> the had disapeared
[05:28] <stamen81> since I upgraded the distro
[05:28] <stamen81> not to dapper
[05:29] <stamen81> just normal upgrade
[05:29] <stamen81> the media is there but is only seen in konsole
[05:29] <stamen81> under konsole
[05:29] <stamen81> but from the browser not
[05:29] <stamen81> what to do
[05:29] <stamen81> to make them visible again
[05:30] <OculusAquilae> stamen81: all media or only hard drives?
[05:30] <stamen81> lets say hard drives
[05:31] <OculusAquilae> i dont know if that is possible, in dapper they are again there
[05:34] <stamen81> OculusAquilae, are you there
[05:35] <OculusAquilae> yes
[05:35] <stamen81> and the other question is how to play games
[05:35] <stamen81> I am installing the games in /usr/local
[05:35] <OculusAquilae> stamen81: what for games?
[05:35] <stamen81> and the setup wants root accses
[05:35] <stamen81> to install them there
[05:36] <stamen81> but after that I can't play it
[05:36] <OculusAquilae> which game?
[05:36] <stamen81> HEavy metal fack
[05:36] <OculusAquilae> hm
[05:36] <stamen81> 2
[05:36] <OculusAquilae> don't know
[05:37] <OculusAquilae> what is "you can't play it"?
[05:37] <stamen81> and why the setup want to have root
[05:37] <stamen81> yes
[05:37] <stamen81> I can't play it
[05:37] <stamen81> I can't start it
[05:37] <stamen81> :(
[05:37] <stamen81> only root can
[05:37] <OculusAquilae> do you know how to start it?
[05:38] <stamen81> yes
[05:38] <OculusAquilae> ah only root can
[05:38] <stamen81> ./
[05:38] <stamen81> yes because the setup runs with root permission
[05:38] <stamen81> and it is installed for root
[05:38] <stamen81> but for me not
[05:39] <stamen81> this is the 2nd game which I install all is the same sh*t
[05:40] <stamen81> and first I installed Loki
[05:41] <stamen81> after that the game is installes
[05:41] <stamen81> installed
[05:41] <stamen81> for so many users only one try to help me
[05:41] <stamen81> :(
[05:42] <flapane> hi men
[05:42] <HymnToLife> if no one answers, that's bause no one knows...
[05:42] <flapane> can someone tell me if can I delete all the -dev packages installed, if I don't need to compile something anymore?
[05:42] <GameCat> hi, can someone help me change the monitor power-saving for the login screen?
[05:43] <GameCat> flapane: the dev packages are ususally not required for anything other than compiling
[05:43] <pedro> hello everyone
[05:43] <GameCat> well, i certainly know of no other use for them
[05:44] <pedro> I would be glad to receive help about a thing
[05:44] <flapane> GameCat, so if I decide erasing those tons of pkgs...
[05:44] <flapane> i won't have problems with my compiled programs?
[05:44] <GameCat> ...it's not my fault :)
[05:44] <flapane> lol
[05:44] <pedro> my language is spanish, I am breezy's user
[05:44] <pedro> And I have 2 partition in my HD, one of them with windows XP with ntfs
[05:45] <GameCat> flapane: not once they are compiled, not to my knowledge
[05:45] <flapane> cause i have about 200mb dev libraries i used
[05:45] <flapane> into these months
[05:45] <pedro> I cannot read right special character and 
[05:45] <flapane> got it m8
[05:45] <pedro> what can i do?
[05:45] <flapane> my ideas was to leave only
[05:45] <flapane> the dev for kernel ricopile
[05:45] <flapane> ncurses etc etc
[05:45] <GameCat> flapane: burn the install debs off to a CD, just in case you want to put them back
[05:46] <flapane> pedro try utf8
[05:46] <pedro> I have tried it
[05:46] <pedro> in my /etc/fstab, the line that mention the partition ntfs
[05:46] <flapane> GameCat the problem is not about donwloading them another time, i only want to be safe when I'll erase them:D
[05:46] <pedro> includes nls=utl8
[05:46] <flapane> yep pedro
[05:46] <flapane> try DMESG
[05:46] <flapane> and see if it say something
[05:47] <flapane> about that ntfs partition
[05:47] <flapane> i couldn't read   
[05:47] <GameCat> flapane: you should be fine :)
[05:47] <flapane> but i solved
[05:47] <flapane> tnx gamecat ;)
[05:47] <pedro> I am certainly newbie
[05:47] <flapane> flapane@a64:~$ more /etc/fstab | grep 'utf'
[05:47] <flapane> /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,nls=utf8,auto,ro,users 0 0
[05:47] <flapane> see what i did
[05:47] <flapane> maybe it can help you man
[05:48] <pedro> I am going to compare
[05:48] <flapane> k
[05:48] <flapane> p.s pedro...could you tell me which zone is vizcaya province?
[05:48] <GameCat> ro is important in there - writing to ntfs is dangerous
[05:48] <flapane> sure!!!!
[05:48] <pedro> of course
[05:48] <pedro> It is in the North
[05:48] <GameCat> okay, always worth mentioning though :)
[05:48] <flapane> toward la coruna?
[05:48] <pedro> mmm
[05:49] <pedro> at the east
[05:49] <flapane> ah so the other side of north
[05:49] <pedro> nearest to France
[05:49] <flapane> got it yep
[05:49] <flapane> tnx
[05:49] <pedro> not at all
[05:49] <pedro> center
[05:50] <flapane> so let us know if you can solve with fstab
[05:51] <flapane> ah anyway those damn italian post took 80eur to ship to vizcaya a 10kg package
[05:51] <pedro> do I have to do same thing with fat32?
[05:51] <stamen81> flapane, did you solved the problem with deb's
[05:51] <flapane> pedro probably yes
[05:52] <flapane> stamen81, GameCat  told me that i can erase dev libraries if i don't need anymore to compile
[05:52] <stamen81> flapane, ?
[05:52] <flapane> so i shouldn't have any problems
[05:52] <stamen81> flapane, yes
[05:52] <flapane> great
[05:52] <stamen81> flapane, if you had installed all
[05:52] <flapane> they're almost 200mb
[05:52] <stamen81> you can move them to back up cd
[05:52] <stamen81> if you want
[05:52] <flapane> yep i used them to compile other things i couldn't find into repositories...
[05:52] <GameCat> once the kernel compile is done you can even remove the source if you want to reclaim some more space
[05:53] <flapane> such as university purpose
[05:53] <flapane> yep source have been already scratched
[05:53] <stamen81> once they have been installed you don't need them
[05:53] <pedro> I still have the problem
[05:53] <flapane> i'll only leave dev lib for kernel ricompile
[05:53] <stamen81> ok
[05:53] <stamen81> if you compile
[05:53] <flapane> pedro have you rebooted?
[05:53] <stamen81> but the way to remove them is this
[05:53] <pedro> no
[05:53] <pedro> I made >mount -a<
[05:53] <stamen81> sudo apt-get -c
[05:53] <stamen81> or
[05:54] <pedro> Do I have to reboot?
[05:54] <stamen81> sudo apt-get --cleen
[05:54] <flapane> -c ? ah didn't know it...
[05:54] <flapane> yep but clean removes deb packages in the cache
[05:54] <stamen81> and all debs are erased
[05:54] <flapane> pedro i rebooted, so i donnow...
[05:54] <stamen81> not only in the cashe
[05:54] <stamen81> cache
[05:54] <flapane> not only?
[05:54] <pedro> ok
[05:54] <pedro> I am going to reboot and come back
[05:54] <stamen81> from the hard too
[05:54] <flapane> ah
[05:54] <pedro> I wait to be luck
[05:54] <flapane> but those dev libraries are installed
[05:55] <flapane> so i think i have to remve them manually from apt manager
[05:56] <flapane> ah what about ati 3d acceleration?:(
[05:56] <flapane> i never managed to once i ricompiled the kernel ...
[05:56] <flapane> damned ati
[05:57] <flapane> won't work with xorg7....
[05:58] <GameCat> no idea
[05:58] <stamen81> why it works
[05:58] <Infecto> virnik: are you  sure  ?
[05:58] <stamen81> I have ati and I have 3d
[05:58] <flapane> i also spoke in msn to ati developer
[05:58] <flapane> he hadn't any ideas
[05:58] <flapane> they know that their drivers are foot-made
[05:58] <GameCat> flaplane: look deeply at your xorg.conf
[05:58] <stamen81> which kernel and distro you have
[05:59] <flapane> kubuntu dapper 2.6.15
[05:59] <flapane> fglrx compiled
[05:59] <stamen81> flapane, still in dapper there are only trbl.
[05:59] <flapane> flapane@a64:~$ fgl_glxgears
[05:59] <flapane> Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
[05:59] <flapane> Error: couldn't get an RGBA, Double-buffered visual
[05:59] <flapane> stamen81,  probably yes...
[05:59] <flapane> maybe that's the point
[05:59] <n3storm> wenas
[05:59] <flapane> but i'm not sure
[06:00] <stamen81> it is not oficial release
[06:00] <stamen81> still
[06:00] <flapane> in dmesg: [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 3053 using kernel context 0
[06:00] <flapane> yep, we have to wait til june
[06:00] <GameCat> flapane: have you tried plain glxgears? that seems to be a fail on the framebuffer, not the 3d (it's not getting that far)
[06:00] <stamen81> I made the upgrade too, and after that I reinstalled all my linux
[06:00] <flapane> plain glxgears?
[06:00] <flapane> what do you mean?
[06:00] <stamen81> to breezy again
[06:00] <flapane> wow stamen81
[06:00] <GameCat> jusrt type glxgears
[06:00] <stamen81> because you can't downgrade
[06:00] <flapane> game same effect
[06:00] <GameCat> ah well
[06:01] <flapane> yep, well........
[06:01] <pedro> I am here againe
[06:01] <flapane> damn ati:(
[06:01] <stamen81> so, you must wait
[06:01] <flapane> yes let's hope well
[06:01] <flapane> i'd like to try cedega
[06:01] <stamen81> they are good, but in the support are verry verry bad
[06:01] <flapane> the only 3d purpose, for me
[06:01] <flapane> sure, i chose x800gt because
[06:01] <stamen81> nvidia is the best for lin now
[06:01] <flapane> it was fasterrr than 6600gt
[06:01] <flapane> but..man...
[06:02] <flapane> how many troubles
[06:02] <pedro> well
[06:02] <GameCat> it's only faster if it works :)
[06:02] <stamen81> I love ati but with this support they loose me as a custumer
[06:02] <flapane> so pedro?
[06:02] <flapane> sure stamen81
[06:02] <pedro> in fat32 I cannot use nls=utf8
[06:02] <flapane> gamecat in fact i play in windows:)
[06:02] <flapane> only thing i can do
[06:02] <pedro> I gave me an error and didn't mount the partition
[06:02] <flapane> :)
[06:02] <stamen81> yes for win they are good
[06:02] <flapane> pedro and for ntfs?
[06:02] <flapane> sure especially for anti aliasing
[06:03] <stamen81> but I wan't to use it in linux too
[06:03] <pedro> and in Windows I still cannot see the accents and other characters
[06:03] <flapane> splinter cell and tomb raider legend are amazing
[06:03] <flapane> strange, pedro
[06:03] <stamen81> not one thing for lin aother for win
[06:03] <flapane> i solved with that option
[06:03] <GameCat> I play on my xbox360 - no driver hassles
[06:03] <pedro> same I say
[06:03] <stamen81> GameCat, :))
[06:03] <flapane> GameCat,  but i don't have a big big tv
[06:03] <flapane> for xbox
[06:03] <pedro> any idea?
[06:03] <flapane> like 35''lcd
[06:03] <stamen81> pedro, what you want to do
[06:03] <flapane> he can't see    etc etc
[06:03] <GameCat> flapane: ah, i have a hi-def projector - Tomb Raider 7 feet wide :D
[06:03] <stamen81> pedro, to whrite in fat32 system
[06:04] <flapane> GameCat, great:D:D
[06:04] <GameCat> oh it is :)
[06:04] <stamen81> pedro, ?
[06:04] <flapane> i wonder
[06:04] <pedro> I would like to write in fat32 with accents,  and other characters
[06:04] <pedro> and can see those characters in ntfs
[06:05] <stamen81> pedro
[06:05] <stamen81> try this
[06:05] <pedro> yes
[06:05] <nico8481> lo
[06:05] <stamen81> vfat    users,gid=users,umask=0000,utf8=true        0       0
[06:05] <GameCat> right, I'm off - have fun
[06:05] <stamen81> and reboot
[06:05] <stamen81> make a backup
[06:05] <stamen81> first
[06:05] <stamen81> for fstab
[06:07] <pedro> ok
[06:07] <pedro> I am goint to try
[06:07] <flapane> stamen81, any news about .wma on xmms?
[06:07] <flapane> i compiled a russina plugin but
[06:07] <flapane> it screwed up xmms
[06:07] <flapane> *russian
[06:09] <stamen81> I am not listening wma with xmms
[06:09] <pedro> before to reboot
[06:09] <stamen81> so I can't help you
[06:09] <flapane> k
[06:09] <stamen81> pedro, yes, what
[06:09] <pedro> I have readed that a good option is to include "iocharset=utf8"
[06:09] <_laurent> hi all
[06:10] <pedro> when I did it I had an advertence at boot telling me that is a bad option to vfat
[06:10] <stamen81> try with my example
[06:10] <pedro> ok
[06:10] <pedro> I'll come back
[06:10] <stamen81> ok
[06:10] <_laurent> hi
[06:10] <stamen81> hi
[06:10] <flapane> vfat was good also for usb pen if i remember well
[06:12] <apokryphos> vfat isn't too bad as long as you're not running an OS with it or you don't plan on having files bigger than 4 gigs or whatever it is
[06:12] <flapane> like fat32
[06:14] <pedro> well
[06:14] <pedro> There are some problems
[06:14] <stamen81> waht problems
[06:14] <pedro> but I think it is not the option utf=true
[06:15] <pedro> I could see at boot that didn't recognize the option of "guid=users"
[06:15] <pedro> How can I see all the message from boot?
[06:15] <stamen81> it must be "utf8=true"
[06:15] <pedro> because there were several error message
[06:15] <stamen81> maybe without ""
[06:15] <stamen81> adn try to remove guid
[06:17] <pedro> Another thing is that when I call Kwrite with sudo or kdesu I have got the message like...
[06:17] <apokryphos> never call kwrite with sudo
[06:17] <apokryphos> !kdesu
[06:17] <pedro> http://pastebin.com/698245
[06:17] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.  If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater"
[06:17] <pedro> why?
[06:18] <apokryphos> what does that mean?
[06:18] <apokryphos> is the terminal output from kdesu kwrite?
[06:18] <pedro> when I do "sudo adept-updater" it say it don't recognize the command
[06:19] <apokryphos> ubotu: no kdesu is <reply> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.
[06:19] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[06:19] <pedro> But I have the same error message with kdesu
[06:19] <apokryphos> is that the output you get from running it in the terminal?
[06:20] <pedro> and from running with graphical way
[06:20] <apokryphos> what's the first line mean?
[06:20] <apokryphos> and, are you on breezy?
[06:20] <pedro> Yes, I am on breezy
[06:21] <apokryphos> I think kdesu was altered slightly in breezy updates, but I'm not sure if it related to that as well. Do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:21] <pedro> I use aptitude
[06:21] <pedro> is it right?
[06:22] <apokryphos> either way
[06:22] <apokryphos> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:22] <pedro> ok
[06:22] <pedro> I will try when I solve the problem with characters
[06:22] <stamen81> bye
[06:22] <stamen81> I have to go
[06:25] <flapane> pedro so didn't u solve?
[06:33] <trip> Anyone had an issue where when they attempt to log onto a wifi network from within KDE their system locks up?
[06:33] <trip> I think this same issue is also responsible for my system randomly locking up as well
[06:34] <DrBair> haven't had any problems with that, but have you checked dmesg and kern.log for clues on the crashes?
[06:35] <trip> yeah
[06:35] <trip> that's the problem
[06:35] <trip> it's a hard lockup
[06:35] <trip> so the system couldn't even write errors to logfiles i doubt
[06:35] <DrBair> i had that problem last week, turned out to be a dieing dvd drive
[06:35] <DrBair> theres always the serial terminal approach
[06:36] <trip> Yeah I originally was leaning towards failing hardware
[06:36] <trip> but then I tried to setup the wifi connection from console
[06:36] <trip> and it worked fine
[06:36] <trip> it's a very curious issue
[06:36] <DrBair> i knew mine was hardware when it started locking in BIOS
[06:36] <trip> yeah
[06:36] <trip> i almost wish this problem would show up elsewhere
[06:36] <Lynoure> Hello
[06:37] <trip> hi
[06:37] <Lynoure> I'm trying to configure a system bell, but get no sound when I press Test  and despite checking Use system bell, still get the fancy alarm noises from KDE
[06:38] <Lynoure> Any idea what might be wrong? (Dapper)
[06:48] <pedro> well
[06:48] <pedro> I am here again
[06:48] <pedro> I still have problems with accents and 
[06:48] <pedro> I made some changes but and the error is different but still an error
[06:50] <Lynoure> hmm
[06:52] <Lynoure> your  seems fine here. I'm not saying I can help you but what kind of problem you have?
[06:52] <pedro> In partition fat32 I cannot read and write accents and 
[06:52] <pedro> And in partition ntfs I cannot read the same characters
[06:53] <pedro> In this partition there is no problem
[06:56] <Lynoure> That can be complicated. I assume you are talking about reading and writing them from linux, not writing from linux and reading from some MS Windows
[06:56] <pedro> yes
[06:57] <pedro> I am in Linux and would like to read and write in fat32 and read en windows
[06:57] <pedro> I think it is not a big thing
[06:58] <DrBair> would you need nlt_utf8 kernel module loaded to do utf8 in vfat?
[06:58] <DrBair> *nls_utf8
[06:58] <pedro> well
[06:58] <pedro> I am a newbie
[06:58] <pedro> I don't understand very well the answer
[06:59] <DrBair> might want to try 'sudo modprobe nls_utf8' and remounting the vfat partition with the utf8 option
[07:01] <pedro> Still is there the error
[07:01] <Lynoure> What error?
[07:02] <pedro> I cannot write accents in fat32
[07:02] <pedro> and do not read right in ntfs
[07:02] <Lynoure> I mean, does it complain somehow? what happens when you try?
[07:02] <pedro> when I try to write in vfat
[07:03] <pedro> kde show me an error window advirtising that it cannot be
[07:03] <DrBair> pedro: have you tried it in the command line at all?
[07:04] <pedro> yes
[07:04] <pedro> and i have the same thing
[07:05] <DrBair> have you checked dmesg output when mounting the drive?
[07:05] <pedro> no
[07:05] <pedro> I don't know how to do it
[07:05] <Broxtor> How can I configure my soundcard in Dapper?
[07:08] <Infecto> some one pass thru skype and sound device problems
[07:09] <Infecto> ?
[07:10] <ss2cire|linux> hello
[07:11] <ss2cire|linux> i was wondering, where does konqueror save downloaded files?
[07:11] <DrBair> ss2cire|linux: konqueror should ask you by default
[07:12] <ss2cire|linux> i didn't
[07:12] <ss2cire|linux> just downloads
[07:12] <ss2cire|linux> no asking where to save...
[07:12] <ss2cire|linux> this is a fresh install of kubuntu.
[07:13] <ss2cire|linux> 5.1
[07:19] <red_> salut j'ai un problme avec la lecture des avi
[07:20] <red_> quelqu'un pourrait m'aider
[07:21] <red_> is someone here able to give me a hand
[07:22] <stefan___> what's your problem exactly?
[07:22] <red_> i'm not able to read avi files.
[07:23] <stefan___> please try:
[07:23] <stefan___> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[07:23] <stefan___> run that script
[07:23] <stefan___> it may help you
[07:24] <ss2cire|linux> how do you configure konqeror to allow you to choose a download location?
[07:24] <ss2cire|linux> i dont see anything all related to it...
[07:25] <Lynoure> I think there was a button at the bottom of the download window
[07:25] <Lynoure> But I might remember wrong
[07:25] <ss2cire|linux> nope, nothing.
[07:25] <ss2cire|linux> just the url you're downloading from
[07:26] <ss2cire|linux> and a progressbar
[07:26] <red_> thank you stefan i'm gotta try it
[07:26] <jarle> IS it possible to have konqueror display thumbnail of movies?
[07:26] <stefan___> yes
[07:27] <jarle> stefan___: any default settings I need to change?
[07:27] <stefan___> just enable the previews for the movie extension you want
[07:27] <stefan___> go to view->preview
[07:28] <stefan___> there should be something with movies
[07:28] <stefan___> if it is not enabled, click on it
[07:28] <stefan___> if it is enabled and you don't see thumbnails it may be another problem
[07:28] <jarle> stefan___: where do I enable preview?
[07:28] <stefan___> in the menu view
[07:29] <stefan___> then "preview" (is a submenu)
[07:30] <jarle> stefan___: I have everything ckecked there, but no movie filetypes is listed there?
[07:30] <stefan___> hm
[07:31] <stefan___> what kind of movies do you have?
[07:31] <jarle> stefan___: What do you have in that list reflecting movies?
[07:31] <stefan___> avi, wmv, mpg, mov, ...
[07:31] <stefan___> on my desk "movie-files" is checked
[07:32] <jarle> stefan___: I have "Scalable Vector Graphics, Clipart etc." but no movie formats...
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Can adept show you a changelog?
[07:34] <jarle> stefan___: I have to check some boxes in konqueror->settings->configure konqueror->previews & meta data I think.... will give it a try...
[07:34] <ss2cire|linux> hmm
[07:34] <ss2cire|linux> im getting a window now
[07:34] <ss2cire|linux> that says the file im trying to download is an executable
[07:34] <ss2cire|linux> and trying to save it will result in a corrupt file
[07:34] <ss2cire|linux> it's a tgz file.
[07:34] <pgmi> hi , i have gcc version 4.0 and my kernel compiler was gcc 3.4 , this brings me some issues , should i compile kernel with gcc 4.0 to solve them ?=
[07:35] <DaSkreech> stefan___: What does the preview for audio do?
[07:35] <stefan___> ??
[07:35] <stefan___> don't know
[07:36] <jarle> stefan___: What do you have checked in konqueror->settings->configure konqueror->previews & meta data? And what is your maximum file size specified there?
[07:38] <stefan___> max is 5MB
[07:38] <stefan___> local protocols -> files
[07:38] <stefan___> no file - not files
[07:38] <stefan___> i mean:
[07:38] <stefan___>  local protocols -> file
[07:38] <stefan___> sorry - i was confused ;)
[07:39] <stefan___> nothing more is checked
[07:40] <pgmi> hi , i have gcc version 4.0 and my kernel compiler was gcc 3.4 , this brings me some issues , should i compile kernel with gcc 4.0 to solve them ?
[07:40] <jarle> stefan___: Seems someone else has the same problem as me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=973568
[07:41] <stefan___> again
[07:41] <stefan___> what type of video are you talking about?
[07:42] <stefan___> please also try:
[07:42] <stefan___> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[07:42] <stefan___> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[07:42] <stefan___> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[07:42] <stefan___> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[07:42] <stefan___> this script helps you with all that codec-stuff
[07:42] <ss2cire|linux> ugh
[07:42] <ss2cire|linux> so annoying
[07:42] <jarle> stefan___: any type of video, mpg, avi, vmv etc...
[07:43] <ss2cire|linux> seems the archive is automatically being opened in a text editor
[07:43] <stefan___> can you play them with kaffeine?
[07:43] <jarle> stefan___: installing kdemultimedia now to see if that helps...
[07:43] <Lynoure> easylinux is a bit of an overkill...
[07:43] <ss2cire|linux> but i see no file association stuff
[07:43] <Lynoure> s/easylinux/easyubuntu
[07:43] <Infecto> uff
[07:44] <Infecto> skype works ok :)
[07:44] <Lynoure> or at least I assume it's what made my konqueror show .avi by default, leaving copy-paste the only download options
[07:45] <stefan___> no
[07:45] <stefan___> i don't think so
[07:45] <stefan___> at least not in my case
[07:47] <stefan___> bye
[07:47] <jarle> stefan___: installing the kdemultimedia package solved the problem, now everything works fine..
[07:47] <stefan___> congratulations ;)
[07:47] <_ubuntu_> o
[07:52] <ss2cire|linux> hahahha
[07:52] <ss2cire|linux> i am a genious
[07:52] <ss2cire|linux> i'll download the file on the windows box
[07:52] <ss2cire|linux> then copy it over :D
[08:01] <pedro> well
[08:01] <pedro> Finally I got it!
[08:02] <pedro> Now I can read and write special characters
[08:02] <pedro> but have a message at boot that I don't know why
[08:03] <pedro> *Setting sensors limits....          [fail] 
[08:03] <pedro> Why?
[08:08] <Lynoure> Does SpeedCrunch on Dapper for most people show the calculator GUI?
[08:08] <Lynoure> I just get white area and radio buttons for degrees/radians + evaluate button
[08:12] <red_> sephan i'm back but i'm problem is not fixed.
[08:13] <red_> i ran the python script....all the W32 codecs are set up but still not able to read avi files
[08:14] <red_> somebody here can help me
[08:14] <red_> i set up easyubuntu but i'm still not able to read avi files
[08:18] <red_> fabien peux tu m'aider
[08:18] <HymnToLife> !fr
[08:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:22] <DaSkreech> red_:  where did you get the avi files?
[08:23] <red_> from my home folder, downloaded from web
[08:24] <DaSkreech> Where on the web?
[08:24] <DaSkreech> Do you know what codecs it is using?
[08:25] <red_> i'm able to read this files with my xbox
[08:25] <red_> how can i know what codecs it is using for
[08:35] <somerville32> Does kubuntu get the same support ubuntu does?
[08:37] <PrimoTurbo> Hey guys how do I remove kubuntu and all the apps it installed? I'm going back to gnome, all I did was install kubuntu-desktop
[08:37] <h3sp4wn> somerville32: Probably not but during the dapper flights kde has been pretty much rock solid whilst gnome was breaking all the time.
[08:37] <somerville32> You don't sorry
[08:37] <Lynoure> Rock solid?
[08:38] <somerville32> h3sp4wn: *nods*
[08:38] <PrimoTurbo> so guys any idea?
[08:38] <PrimoTurbo> I would like to remove kubuntu including all the apps, I read the removing kubuntu-desktop won't do that
[08:38] <jorik> PrimoTurbo, heh, i was going to ask the excact oposite of that
[08:39] <h3sp4wn> PrimoTurbo: if you use aptitude just do sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop but if you don't then well it won't work
[08:39] <DaSkreech> red_: Hmm I'm not sure actually
[08:39] <PrimoTurbo> I didn't use aptitude :(
[08:39] <Lynoure> primoturbo: I'd use debfoster for that, but I'm weird
[08:39] <jorik> all these gnome icons are cluttering my menus
[08:39] <PrimoTurbo> how do u use debfoster?
[08:39] <PrimoTurbo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96048
[08:40] <PrimoTurbo> I found that but is that the right instructions?
[08:40] <mlivneh> can someone help me out? my wireless card is conf'd correctly; on boot it sets the correct essid, but it doesn't pull a dhcp lease. i have to "sudo dhclient wlan0" manually. my /etc/network/interfaces file is here: http://pastebin.com/698526
[08:40] <Lynoure> PrimoTurbo: type debfoster and follow instructions. It'll ask you what you want to keep.
[08:40] <DaSkreech> red_: Do you have mplayer?
[08:40] <red_> i use xine player
[08:41] <PrimoTurbo> do u have to know all the names of the stuff kubuntu installed
[08:41] <PrimoTurbo> cause I'm scared I will mess up and then I probally won't take the time to get it running again
[08:42] <mindspin> PrimoTurbo: no adept shows the names and wether you have it installed or not
[08:42] <Lynoure> PrimoTurbo: I don't think there is any way of purging stuff that is compeltely mistake-safe
[08:44] <bug2000> My buddy gets an error: 'an error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system' what to do?
[08:44] <Guest630> ^ I'm the one with that error
[08:44] <HymnToLife> is your cd OK ?
[08:44] <Canabary> Checking it now
[08:45] <Canabary> 99% no errors yet
[08:45] <Canabary> no errors
[08:46] <Canabary> I think I need to reformat the Partition though... seems I could get a fucked up system if I dont..
[08:46] <Canabary> Now if only I knew how to do that
[08:47] <Lynoure> Depends a bit on which partition...
[08:47] <HymnToLife> but yeah, the root partition has to be formatted during install
[08:48] <Canabary> Jeez now it cant find the cd...
[08:48] <PrimoTurbo> Before I do anything stupid, I'm trying to remove kubuntu using debfroster. Will this only remove kubuntu-desktop and all the stuff it installed? I want to keep gnome and all my apps, http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/1626/screenshot6xs.png
[08:48] <Canabary> even though it is running from it =/
[08:49] <Lynoure> PrimoTurbo: It won't remove gnome unless you mark it removed, but perhaps the aptitude way is better/easier.
[08:49] <PrimoTurbo> I didn't use aptitude to install kubuntu-desktop
[08:49] <PrimoTurbo> will it still work to unisntall kubuntu-desktop?
[08:50] <Lynoure> you can use it know even if you have never used it before.
[08:50] <Lynoure> It's just an apt frontend...
[08:51] <LeeJunFan> PrimoTurbo: kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package which installs a bunch of other packages, uninstalling kubuntu-desktop will not uninstall everything that came with it.
[08:51] <LeeJunFan> PrimoTurbo: you should probably uninstall kdelibs to remove all the kde stuff.
[08:52] <Canabary> wee works now ^_^
[08:53] <PrimoTurbo> kdelibs won't remove all the kde crap
[08:53] <PrimoTurbo> i want it all gone and have a clean system
[08:53] <PrimoTurbo> is python2.4-dev needed for gnome?
[08:54] <PrimoTurbo> kde-guidance is keeping the following 6 packages installed:
[08:54] <PrimoTurbo>   libpythonize0 python-kde3 python2.4-dev python2.4-kde3 python2.4-qt3 python2.4-sip4-qt3
[08:54] <BluesKaj_> where 's the best site for live cd for AMD64 mchines ?
[08:54] <PrimoTurbo> Anyoen of this needed?
[08:54] <Lynoure> python2.4-dev is not kde specific in any way
[08:54] <PrimoTurbo> damn I have a feeling I will mess up..
[08:55] <Lynoure> but if something else needs that package, saying yes there won't remove it
[08:55] <PrimoTurbo> in debfroster u mean?
[08:55] <Lorenzod> Hm.. I can't use KDM as my display manager. Any session I start dies within seconds.
[08:56] <Lorenzod> Is anybody else experiencing this?
[08:56] <Lorenzod> btw, that is on an up-to-date Dapper.
[08:56] <bug2000> Canabary, how's the install going on?
[09:00] <Lynoure> PrimoTurbo: why do you think removing kdelibs wouldn't work?
[09:00] <PrimoTurbo> dunno will it?
[09:00] <PrimoTurbo> will it remove everything?
[09:00] <DaSkreech> red_: Mplayer should be able to play the file as well as tell You the codecs it uses
[09:00] <Lynoure> Depends on what you define with everything
[09:00] <lwells> can anyone help me with Dansguardian??
[09:00] <trym> I was starting Xgl fine for a while, but I had forgotten to disable xinerama, so I was unable to start compiz. Not knowing this at the time, I found a howto I decided to follow. I added the repositories it asked me to and upgraded many of my packages. After doing so, Im not able to start xgl. When I try I get: XIO: fatal io error 104 (Connection reset by peer). There are no other errors in the x log. Any ideas what to do to make things work again? Im running 
[09:01] <PrimoTurbo> I want everything that kubuntu-desktop installed to be removed
[09:01] <DaSkreech> red_: There is a package in universe called xineextra (I think) that should give you more file compatibilty
[09:01] <lwells> I am not able to install it
[09:01] <PrimoTurbo> I want my system how it was before I installed kubuntu-desktop no logs, no apps or whatever nothing else
[09:01] <Lynoure> I think all kde specific stuff depend on that
[09:01] <_andreas> Hey, Can someone tell me which "apt-get" command that installs the kernel headers for my running kernel?
[09:01] <red_> DaSkreech: thanks
[09:01] <dbakker> has anyone gotten xgl to work on a FireGL M24 GL card? I locks up pretty fast with the latest fglrx driver, stays up for a bit with the open source radeon driver but most applications crash it
[09:02] <dbakker> _andreas: i usually install module-assistant and then run module-assitant and do a prepare
[09:02] <DaSkreech> red_: Let me find out what the package is called
[09:03] <lwells> Doess anyone know aobut Danguardian??
[09:03] <DaSkreech> red_: libxine-extracodecs
[09:04] <_andreas> dbbakker: Thanx alot, Ill give it a try :)
[09:06] <red_> DaSkreech: works with VLC media player but not with xine or kaffeine
[09:06] <bug2000> Good night.
[09:06] <apricot> how to backup partitions?
[09:07] <dbakker> apricot: just the layout?
[09:07] <apricot> whole partition
[09:07] <dbakker> dd if=/dev/<diskdevice> of=backup.dd
[09:07] <lwells> I want to block certain websites on this computer
[09:08] <dbakker> apricot: block for block. or just use tar
[09:12] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:14] <BluesKaj_> never seen my DL speed this high ..steady at 523kb/sec
[09:14] <BluesKaj_> another canuck in the crowd
[09:14] <uniq> apricot: i suggest using partimage. it can compress backup images, and the unused space is not copied, as dd does.
[09:15] <Lorenzod> Hm.. I have an error in my kdm log files about not being able to read /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[09:15] <Lorenzod> But locate tells me that file is in /usr/lib instead.
[09:15] <uniq> apricot: apt-cache show partimage, or use sysresccd.org
[09:15] <apikoros> how do disable that $#!@#!@ bouncing icon when i run apps?
[09:15] <Lorenzod> Does anybody know what is trying to read SecurityPolicy?
[09:17] <uniq> apikoros: system settings -> panel -> startup notification
[09:17] <apikoros> thanks
[09:18] <apikoros> there is a circle in hell for whomever programmed this bouncing thing
[09:25] <Lorenzod> Okay, does anybody know which file is trying to access <some path>/xserver/SecurityPolicy?
[09:25] <Lorenzod> During session initialization, that is (and only when running KDM).
[09:27] <Lynoure> files don't access files, processes do. Try lsof?
[09:28] <Lorenzod> Lynoure: yeah, well you know what I mean. But lsof might be a good idea.
[09:29] <uniq> lorenzod: /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy is in the xserver-common package.
[09:30] <uniq> lorenzod: try to reinstall the package: konsole -> 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-common'
[09:30] <Lorenzod> uniq: thanks. But I have the SecurityPolicy file.
[09:30] <Lorenzod> I rather need to know what is searching for it in /etc/X11/xserver.
[09:31] <lwells> how do you block a website with iptables?, what is the sytax
[09:31] <ctothej> how can i format an external hard drive in vfat so that both windows and linux can read from it? i want only to store media files on it...
[09:32] <ctothej> and isos too
[09:32] <Lorenzod> uniq: hold on, you said the file *should* be in /etc/X11/xserver.. Sorry I'm illiterate today.
[09:44] <etam> hi
[09:44] <etam> how can i change the console resolution?
[09:45] <etam> i mean alt + f1, f2... consoles
[09:45] <dbakker> there is an option for grub
[09:46] <etam> dbakker: where?
[09:46] <dbakker> google for
[09:46] <etam> dbakker: ok
[09:46] <etam> :|
[09:47] <dbakker> etam: im sorry but im at work anyway
[09:47] <dbakker> etam: cant google for ya
[09:50] <eriksti> what's the trick to get amarok playing radio? I've tried installing restricted formats..
[09:51] <TheUni> is it possible to have 3 monitors working at once in kubuntu? i have 2 atm, but am getting a 3rd. can i just get another video card and let x pick it up like with the other 2?
[09:51] <dbakker> i use kaffine
[09:52] <eriksti> don't like amaroK, or you just use it for radio?
[09:52] <protocol1> eriksti, have you tried installing easyubuntu?
[09:52] <eriksti> protocol1: nope.. where can I read about it?
[09:53] <eriksti> sounds like it's made for me :)
[09:53] <TheUni> easybuntu?
[09:53] <protocol1> it will allow you to use restrictied formats and get your java and other stuff set for you
[09:53] <Cilindrador> i have this huge problem concerning burned DVDs, which i cant read no matter what.  /// Data dvds w/ video files whose filesystem is iso9660+joliet are not accessed at all. /// I've documented the best i can @ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=963336 and would appreciate any help.
[09:54] <protocol1> tell eriksti about !easyubuntu
[09:54] <protocol1> !easyubuntu
[09:54] <eriksti> found this: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[09:54] <protocol1> yeah
[09:55] <protocol1> go through the instructions for that and it will server your needs.....
[09:55] <protocol1> serve*
[09:55] <eriksti> looks awesome.. thanks!
[09:55] <protocol1> i used it to get most of stuff working
[09:55] <protocol1> np
[10:04] <trym> 
[10:04] <trym> 
[10:07] <reagleBRKLN> when i plug in an external drive (ext3 formatted) kubuntu tries two automounts a /dev/sda which fails, and /dev/sda1 (which is the real file system.) how should external drives be partitioned?
[10:09] <TheUni> reagleBRKLN: mine are fat.
[10:09] <TheUni> saves me the trouble
[10:09] <reagleBRKLN> FAT can be slow and cause tons of problems
[10:10] <reagleBRKLN> (with filenames and such)
[10:13] <sistar> hey guys, I came in here to ask about some dvd video and cd audio probs I'm having and saw mention of this easybuntu thang. So I checked it out downloaded and ran it...
[10:13] <sistar> Now I need help with it!!
[10:16] <sistar> When I press ok the gui does nothing and in the command line I get the error: TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'QString' and 'QString'
[10:21] <Sergi0> sistar: looks like nobody can help you here at this moment, maybe try #ubuntu
[10:23] <sistar> Thanks Sergi0
[10:28] <steveire> anyone use dapper kubuntu?
[10:28] <steveire> !anyone
[10:28] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[10:28] <steveire> Yes I know
[10:29] <steveire> I'm trying to get mp3s working (!MP3, yes, I know) but the package akode-mpeg is not in the repos. If someone has got it working, please tell me how.
[10:30] <gnomefreak> oh mpeg
[10:30] <gnomefreak> yes it is
[10:30] <gnomefreak> libakode2-mpeg - mpeg plugins for akode
[10:30] <steveire> libakode2-mpeg
[10:30] <steveire> Still, I cannot play mp3s
[10:30] <gnomefreak> mpeg is video
[10:30] <steveire> I think I said vaguely that in the other chan
[10:31] <steveire> Any more ideas?
[10:31] <Dasnipa`> steveire, did you add the universe repos?
[10:31] <Dasnipa`> and possibly multiverse?
[10:32] <steveire> yes i did
[10:32] <steveire> Do you use dapper?
[10:33] <crimsun> gnomefreak: mp3 is mpeg 1 layer 3 audio, so yeah, you need mpeg support.
[10:34] <steveire> crimsun: do you use dapper?
[10:34] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[10:34] <crimsun> steveire: yes
[10:34] <crimsun> (not kubuntu per se, however)
[10:35] <steveire> ubuntu + KDE?
[10:35] <steveire> It's looking like that's the best way to go tbh.
[10:37] <crimsun> steveire: I normally use whatever allows me to be productive, which at the moment is a simple xterm + opera session under twm
[10:37] <crimsun> steveire: but yes, kubuntu (ubuntu+kde) is a quite a good place to begin
[10:37] <steveire> So, you can't help me then...
[10:37] <crimsun> are you using dapper or breezy?
[10:37] <steveire> dapper
[10:38] <steveire> kubuntu dapper, and i can't play mp3s
[10:38] <crimsun> you either need gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and/or libxine-extracodecs
[10:38] <crimsun> depending on which player you're using
[10:38] <crimsun> sorry, that should be ugly, not bad
[10:39] <steveire> I have them, Could you read up a couple of lines to save me repeating myslef
[10:39] <crimsun> I don't see any mention of what player you're using
[10:40] <steveire> amorok, kaffeine, niether work
[10:40] <steveire> is there another I can try?
[10:40] <crimsun> amarok and kaffeine should both use xine
[10:41] <crimsun> dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii
[10:42] <steveire> steveire@ubuntu:~/Downloads$  dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii
[10:42] <steveire> ii  libxine-extracodecs 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 the xine video/media player library, binary files
[10:42] <steveire> mplayer plays mp3s
[10:42] <steveire> does that tell you anything?
[10:45] <crimsun> steveire: sec, I'm at work
[10:46] <crimsun> steveire: looks fine
[10:46] <crimsun> steveire: you mentioned you have the gst package installed; can you try this?  gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri=file:///some.mp3 ?
[10:49] <steveire> bash: gst-launch-0.10: command not found
[10:50] <crimsun> steveire: hmm, you don't have gstreamer0.10-tools installed, then
[10:50] <crimsun> steveire: in any case, if mplayer plays them, then the issue is elsewhere. What's the stderr output from xine?
[10:52] <steveire> how do I get it?
[10:52] <crimsun> steveire: invoke amarok and/or kaffeine from the command line
[10:54] <steveire> no output
[10:54] <crimsun> ok, just to sanity-check, please install mpg321
[10:58] <Lorenzod> steveire: does kaffeine actually start at all for you?
[10:58] <crimsun> steveire: then try: mpg321 some.mp3
[10:58] <steveire> odd: kdesu amarok some.mp3 gives lots of output, and plays the file... Kaffeine starts.
[10:59] <crimsun> ahh, permissions problem then
[10:59] <crimsun> try: groups|grep audio
[10:59] <steveire> steveire adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[11:00] <steveire> It works now!
[11:00] <crimsun> mmkay
[11:00] <steveire> I reckon it could have been the tools gstreamer thing
[11:00] <steveire> thanks very much
[11:00] <steveire> These problems are always very frustrating
[11:01] <crimsun> odd, I thought amarok/kaffeine were configured to use xine by default
[11:01] <Lorenzod> crimsun, amarok is (at least for me), kaffeine, I don't know because it hangs.
[11:02] <Lorenzod> Funny, codeine works, but also hangs if I try to access xine properties.
[11:03] <kbrooks> Does anyone here run kubuntu dapper?
[11:05] <jarle> Unable to login again after doing "Lock Session" from KDE. Do I have to change kcheckpass to be owned by root (chmod root.root ) and then SUID the file (chmod 4755 ). Or is there some other solution?
[11:05] <Lorenzod> kbrooks, yes
[11:05] <kbrooks> Lorenzod: copy nd paste the output of dpkg -l libqt3-mt to me in a PM
[11:06] <steveire> I'm using dapper too.
[11:23] <BluesKaj_> OldToker, interesting nick :)
[11:24] <OldToker> Thanks :)
[11:24] <OldToker> I am having major problems with my kubuntu
[11:24] <OldToker> :(
[11:25] <OldToker> what's the root password?? when I installed the system it only prompted me to put in a user name and pass..
[11:25] <BluesKaj_> yeah , same here , just tried the live cd again
[11:26] <OldToker> and it seems that when I put in my user password. when it asks for "Run as root" my User pass seems to work?
[11:26] <OldToker> ????
[11:26] <OldToker> but now after installing gksu  It seems that I can't become root anymore?
[11:27] <BluesKaj_> wouldn't let me back in after resetting the scrn rez , without username or pww, it didn't ask me for one in th first place ...DOH!
[11:28] <OldToker> Hey Bluekuj_ May I pm ya?
[11:28] <BluesKaj_> yeah sure
[11:36] <kbrooks> anyone who uses kubuntu dapper: /query me and do /exec -o dpkg -l libqt3-mt
[11:36] <kbrooks> thank you
[11:37] <trip> heh
[11:38] <Infecto> hmmm
[11:38] <Infecto> right now i try to paste my output :)
[11:38] <Infecto> lol
[11:42] <Lorenzod> infecto: he did that to me as well..
[11:42] <iNiku> hey, does anyone use opera on kde? when restoring the kde session after login, opera always opens on the current desktop instead of the one it was on
[11:42] <iNiku> is there a way to fix that?
[11:44] <Lorenzod> iNiku: try right-clicking on the title-bar, and selecting advanced->special app settings
[11:44] <Lorenzod> or something like that..
[11:45] <iNiku> and setting what?
[11:45] <iNiku> ahh, nevermind, thanks
[11:45] <iNiku> found it :)
[11:45] <jtmoney> wow
[11:46] <jtmoney> ubuntu/kubuntu is really fucking slick
[11:46] <jtmoney> thanks guys
[11:46] <jtmoney> ;)
[11:48] <etam> hi, can you help me? my grub is working with vga=0x31b but is not with 0x31c, and sais that it is undefined number... do you know why?!
[11:51] <Blissex> etam that is defined in the card BIOS, not in GRUB. That mans your card does not support mode 0x31c, whatever that is.
[11:51] <xst> On my laptop I can "doubletap" the mouse pad in order to simulate a left-mouse-press (not -click). But the maximum allowed doubletap interval is currently far to short. How can I enlarge it?
[11:52] <Lorenzod> Can somebody check if kaffeine --verbose actually produces any output?
[11:54] <Blissex> xst: thats probably built into the mousepad, so probably it is an option to the mousepad driver...
[12:01] <slow-motion> n8