[12:46] <WaterSevenUb> mdke, hi... what was the issue of including Portuguese startpage in firefox? apparently when I point to /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-pt.html everything appears great.
[12:47] <WaterSevenUb> although, when I start firefox I am pointed to index-pt_BR.html.
[12:47] <mdke> WaterSevenUb: is there a pt translation of firefox itself?
[12:48] <mdke> (no)
[12:48] <mdke> that's the problem.
[12:48] <mdke> we can't make it appear unless firefox itself has a translation
[12:49] <WaterSevenUb> ok:-) I thought it was related to the rendering of the text itself, not the URL.
[12:50] <WaterSevenUb> mdke, you've mentioned the xpi, ... I know the upstream team will be releasing this month (probably) firefox translated. How late in the cycle do you think the translation can reach ubuntu and still be used?
[12:51] <mdke> WaterSevenUb: no idea, you need to ask pitti, or diziet
[12:51] <WaterSevenUb> ok, thanks.
[12:52] <mdke> np
[12:53] <WaterSevenUb> hhmm... the startpage doesn't have the LTS thing, probably not relevant enough to annoy translators again...
[12:53] <mdke> oh bollocks
[12:54] <WaterSevenUb> well... it can be added by hand in all of them:)
[12:54] <mdke> yeah, I'll do it that way
[12:54] <mdke> thanks for pointing it out
[12:54] <mdke> hopefully the Chinese isn't too difficult
[12:54] <WaterSevenUb> eh:)
[01:14] <ompaul> mdke, have you got a few minutes?
[01:15] <mdke> ompaul: a few
[01:15] <ompaul> mind if I send you a presentation for a bit of sanity checking?
[01:15] <mdke> ompaul: when are you giving it?
[01:16] <ompaul> 11am Thursday 
[01:16] <ompaul> its just a trend
[01:16] <mdke> today thursday?
[01:16] <ompaul> yes
[01:16] <ompaul> it is 0:16
[01:16] <mdke> argh, i need to go to bed, I haven't been sleeping much recently
[01:16] <ompaul> go for it 
[01:16] <ompaul> I just need to find someone who is awake :)
[01:16] <mdke> sorry. But someone else in here will help, I bet
[01:16] <ompaul> lets find a .au er
[01:16] <ompaul> :)
[01:17] <mdke> or an american: trappist, LaserJock, mgalvin 
[01:17] <ompaul> yeap
[01:17] <mdke> Burgwork, Madpilot (when he arrives)
[01:18] <ompaul> mgalvin, I have a presentation I have to give at 11am local time (its now 0:17) 
[01:18] <mgalvin> ok, on?
[01:18] <ompaul> so my question is care to review it, and if so can you msg me an address to send it somewhere
[01:18] <ompaul> ubuntu
[01:19] <mgalvin> sure
[01:19] <mgalvin> matt.t.galvin@gmail.com
[01:19] <ompaul> thanks
[01:19] <mgalvin> np
[01:19] <ompaul> mdke, go to bed :-)
[01:19] <mdke> nighty nighty
[01:19] <ompaul> thanks 
[01:19] <mgalvin> night mdke
[01:22] <ompaul> mgalvin, I am going back to work on it
[01:22] <ompaul> its not finished but you can get a good idea of what I want to do from it, I have about 25 minutes to fill
[01:23] <mgalvin> ok, i will give it a read
[01:23] <ompaul> thanks
[08:31] <Madpilot> hi Burgundavia 
[08:31] <Burgundavia> salut Madpilot
[08:35] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, one positive effect of the rising .ca dollar - computer stuff is going to get even cheaper for us ;)
[08:35] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: yep
[09:17] <kgoetz> hi all. is there somewhere i can drop a docbook xml file that it will automatically be made part of the ubuntu help system? or is this a find and rtfm
[09:19] <jenda> I'm afraid FARTFM...
[09:19] <Madpilot> kgoetz, you want to add something to the ubuntu-docs package?
[09:20] <kgoetz> Madpilot: no, i want to leave a comunity group with help files, but i would rather something better then text.
[09:20] <kgoetz> Madpilot: i'm not realy up for ubuntu docteam work.... your all a bit fast for me
[09:21] <Madpilot> kgoetz, ask on the docteam mailing list - or hang out and see if Matt East can help you here (mdke) - he does a lot of our building/packaging/etc
[09:22] <kgoetz> Madpilot: thanks for the sugestion.
[09:22] <kgoetz> jenda: i worked out the html generating bit. it's actualy realy easy if all you want is black and white html
[09:22] <kgoetz> thanks for your help on it ;)
[09:22] <Madpilot> I just hack at docbook and write semi-coherent help, I leave the hard stuff to others ;)
[09:23] <jenda> hehe - can I have a look, kgoetz?
[09:24] <kgoetz> xsltproc --nonet /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/htmlhelp/htmlhelp.xsl $package (no internet, and use the default provided stylesheet, nothing fancy)
[10:33] <mdke> morning
[10:34] <rob> hi mdke 
[06:38] <jsgotangco_> ciao
[07:13] <jbaloul> hello
[07:15] <jbaloul> i wrote a howto about installtion on ubuntu...started out as just notes but more and more people have been contacting me regarding this....i think maybe it can be a good contrabution to the wiki on vmware at ubuntu
[07:15] <jbaloul> http://howtoforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=5
[07:17] <jbaloul> anyone any ideas?
[07:33] <Burgwork> jbaloul, can you move it to the ubuntu wiki?
[07:33] <jbaloul> how?
[07:37] <Burgwork> jbaloul, find the vmware page and integrate your infromation
[07:37] <highvoltage> mv http://howtoforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=5 http://wiki.ubuntu.org/VMWareServerBetaInstallation ?
[07:37] <highvoltage> :)
[07:41] <jbaloul> :)
[08:28] <LaserJock> mdke: ping?
[10:09] <mdke> LaserJock: hi
[10:09] <LaserJock> mdke: did firefox work better on those pngs
[10:09] <mdke> LaserJock: yeah :)
[10:10] <LaserJock> ok, good
[10:10] <mdke> LaserJock: I haven't had time to look at the variable list thing yet or the admon icons
[10:11] <LaserJock> np, are we going to insert links to lulu from the docs?
[10:12] <mdke> LaserJock: yes, good point. We need to draft an appropriate string
[10:28] <mdke> Burgwork: wiki move is starting to move along. We have a server, and spiv is going to take a look at doing the code
[10:29] <Burgwork> mdke, sweet!
[10:29] <mdke> :)
[11:33] <aleph0> hello.
[11:34] <aleph0>  in http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-amd64/current/doc/manual/en/apcs04.html it says "tar -xf" when it should say "ar -xf"
[11:35] <aleph0> actually there is more wrong in that file.
[11:35] <aleph0> compare: http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs03.html
[11:38] <Burgwork> aleph0, that is very very old stuff
[11:38] <Burgwork> aleph0, file a bug please
[11:41] <aleph0> are there newer versions?
[11:46] <LaserJock> mdke: have we decided what the URL of the new wiki will be?
[11:50] <mdke> LaserJock: we were thinking http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[11:54] <LaserJock> mdke: is that going to be inplace for Dapper? Should we link to it in the docs?
[11:55] <mdke> LaserJock: hopefully yes, and probably no. I think it's too late for the latter.
[11:56] <mdke> but we may sort out a nifty redirect system anyhow
[11:56] <LaserJock> k, just wondering
[11:57] <mdke> LaserJock: any ideas for what to say about lulu? How about "You can buy a printed copy of this guide at <X>"
[11:57] <mdke> maybe something about it being non-profit
[11:57] <mdke> not sure
[11:58] <LaserJock> yeah, "You can buy a printed copy of this guide <x> for a minimal charge as You will only pay for the price of printing and shipping."
[11:59] <mdke> bit long. Strip out "for a minimal charge" and replace it with a full stop, or brackets?
[12:00] <LaserJock> yeah, it was a little awkward
[12:00] <mdke> "You can buy a printed copy of the guide at <x>. You will only pay for the price of printing and shipping/postage"
[12:01] <mdke> hmm
[12:01] <mdke> "printed copy" doesn't get across the fact that it is bound
[12:02] <mdke> "You can buy this guide in book form at <x>. You will only pay for the price of printing and postage"?
[12:02] <mdke> s/in book form/as a book