[12:05] <crimsun> Petaris: sure it does.
[12:05] <crimsun> you need to remove the linux-source-2.6.15 directory and re-extract the linux-source-2.6.15 tarball
[12:06] <Petaris> why?  It was a fresh extract in the first place?
[12:06] <crimsun> dpkg-deb -x /home/crimsun/linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-22.33_all.deb .; usr/src/scripts/; ls gcc-version.sh
[12:09] <Petaris> hrm
[12:09] <Petaris> ahh, I see what happened
[12:33] <Petaris> hrm
[12:33] <Petaris> I wonder if I would want to raise my user address space size
[12:34] <Petaris> there is no help for that option
[12:34] <Petaris> is 1 GB sufficiant?
[12:35] <Petaris> Hello mdz
[01:06] <Petaris> I'm off
[01:06] <Petaris> see you tomarrow
[02:02] <Petaris> While compiling a kernel for my system using the linux-source package and a slightly modified i386 config file I have run into an error: http://phpfi.com/116020
[02:07] <zul> heylo
[02:07] <Petaris> Hello zul
[02:28] <BenC> Petaris: you've slightly broken your modified config
[02:28] <BenC> CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG64 isn't set, which is how set_64bit gets set
[02:35] <Petaris> BenC: I didn't change anything other then 64 GB mem support and amp
[02:35] <BenC> amp?
[02:35] <Petaris> s/amp/smp
[02:36] <BenC> the -server kernel and -server-bigiron kernel has those options enabled
[02:36] <BenC> what config did you modify?
[02:36] <Petaris> the -server kernel brings my box to a crawl for some reason
[02:36] <Petaris> I modified the 2.6.15-21-i386 config
[02:37] <BenC> makes sure you set the CPU to something other than 486 too
[02:37] <Petaris> oh?
[02:37] <BenC> like P4 or whatever it is you are using
[02:37] <Petaris> Opteron
[02:37] <Petaris> but I need a 32bit system
[02:37] <BenC> why not use an amd64 kernel then?
[02:37] <Petaris> for ltsp compatability
[02:38] <BenC> you can use an amd64 kernel with a 32-bit userspace
[02:38] <Petaris> any downfalls to doing so?
[02:38] <infinity> The occasional syscall that gets out of sync, but we'd like bug reports on those so we can fix them anyway.
[02:38] <infinity> (In general, it should work great)
[02:38] <Petaris> hrm
[02:39] <Petaris> this is a production box
[02:39] <BenC> the only ioctl's I'm aware of that aren't translated are the usblp ones
[02:39] <infinity> Petaris: There you go.  Ben's the man.
[02:40] <infinity> In other news, scientists wonder why you need a 32-bit userspace for "LTSP compatibility".
[02:40] <Petaris> Can I switch over to the amd64 kernel without ditching my install thus far?
[02:40] <BenC> yep
[02:40] <infinity> An LTSP server can serve to multiple architectures.
[02:40] <Petaris> infinity: thats what was recomended by ogra in #edubuntu
[02:40] <infinity> Oh.
[02:40] <infinity> Could be a limitation of the way we package LTSP to make it as friendly as possible, then.
[02:41] <infinity> I'll shut up. :)
[02:41] <BenC> is this an LTSP server, or client?
[02:41] <Petaris> server
[02:41] <Petaris> the clients are x86
[02:41] <BenC> not sure why the server architecture matters then, but ok :)
[02:41] <Petaris> the server is a dual opteron with 8 GB of ram
[02:41] <infinity> Oh, dude, then you DEFINITELY want an amd64 kernel on there.
[02:41] <BenC> yeah
[02:42] <Petaris> BenC: I don't know enough about it, so I take ogra's advice
[02:42] <infinity> You're just wasting the hardware otherwise.
[02:42] <BenC> Petaris: hold a second....
[02:42] <Petaris> ok
[02:42] <BenC> Petaris: download an amd64-k8 kernel .deb
[02:42] <BenC> and follow these instructions carefully...
[02:43] <Petaris> where can I grab the kernel from?
[02:43] <Petaris> just apt-get it?
[02:43] <BenC> dpkg-deb --extract linux-image-2.6.15-22-amd64-k8_2.6.15-22.33_amd64.deb tmp
[02:43] <BenC> dpkg-deb --control linux-image-2.6.15-22-amd64-k8_2.6.15-22.33_amd64.deb tmp/DEBIAN
[02:43] <BenC> vi tmp/DEBIAN/control
[02:43] <BenC> replace Architecture: amd64 with Architecture: i386
[02:43] <BenC> save, and exist
[02:43] <BenC> exit
[02:44] <BenC> sudo  dpkg-deb --build tmp .
[02:44] <BenC> Petaris: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/
[02:45] <BenC> then you can do: sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.15-22-amd64-k8_2.6.15-22.33_i386.deb
[02:46] <infinity> BenC: Is there a valid reason we're not performing this hack and uploading it to the archive?
[02:46] <Petaris> hrm
[02:46] <infinity> (It wouldn't be the only package with .debs in the source... Think ia32-libs, etc)
[02:46] <BenC> infinity: we thought about it, but I haven't tested it enough to know that it is "up to snuff"
[02:46] <Petaris> BenC: I can't find that linux-image version
[02:46] <Petaris> linux-image-2.6.15-21-amd64-generic_2.6.15-21.32_amd64.deb                  23-Apr-2006 13:08   20M  
[02:46] <Petaris> [   ]  linux-image-2.6.15-21-amd64-k8_2.6.15-21.32_amd64.deb                       23-Apr-2006 13:08   20M  
[02:46] <Petaris> [   ]  linux-image-2.6.15-21-amd64-server_2.6.15-21.32_amd64.deb                   23-Apr-2006 13:08   20M  
[02:46] <Petaris> [   ]  linux-image-2.6.15-21-amd64-xeon_2.6.15-21.32_amd64.deb                     23-Apr-2006 13:09   19M  
[02:47] <Petaris> no 22.33
[02:47] <BenC> 21.32 is fine
[02:47] <Petaris> ok
[02:47] <Petaris> grabbing it now
[02:47] <BenC> infinity: oh, I didn't get a chance to do lrm, so if you have an upload, I'll just wait
[02:48] <infinity> BenC: But you also didn't get a chance to do the fixed kernel, did you?
[02:48] <infinity> BenC: At any rate, I'm not going to upload LRM while Flight-7 is in prep, since that will cause stuff to go out of sync (lrm-common, etc)
[02:51] <Petaris> ok, doing the build
[02:53] <Petaris> ok, done
[02:53] <Petaris> now installing
[02:54] <Mithrandir> BenC: uh, since you didn't upload last night, please hold off any kernel uploads until flight-7 is out.
[02:55] <BenC> Mithrandir: no problem
[02:55] <Petaris> BenC: ok, its installed
[02:55] <Petaris> let me reboot into it
[02:56] <BenC> good luck :)
[02:56] <Petaris> I sure hope so
[02:56] <Petaris> I have to have this box running and configured by the end of the day
[02:56] <Petaris> :/
[02:58] <Petaris> booting
[03:13] <Petaris> BenC: That seems to have done the trick
[03:13] <Petaris> Thanks for all the help
[03:13] <BenC> cool
[03:13] <BenC> glad it worked like I hoped it would :)
[03:14] <Petaris> me too
[03:14] <Petaris> I will just have to keep that in mind when I do updates
[03:19] <BenC> you'll have to manually update your kernel on that system
[03:19] <Petaris> right
[03:21] <Petaris> just wrote those instructions to a file on that system
[03:21] <Petaris> I know that I will forget how to do that before the next time round
[03:21] <Petaris> hehe
[03:24] <Petaris> now to get sound working
[03:24] <Petaris> see ya later guys
[03:24] <Petaris> and thanks again
[04:09] <Mithrandir> BenC: 40436; should it be rejected?
[04:15] <tritium> BenC: are you around?
[04:16] <tritium> :)  May I ask a small favor for your next kernel build?
[04:17] <tritium> Can you please check https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/40009, and make sure the ipw2200 quiesce on shutdown patch gets applied?
[04:17] <mjg59> tritium: It has been
[04:17] <tritium> oh, super :)
[04:17] <mjg59> should be in -22
[04:17] <tritium> I didn't realize that.
[04:18] <tritium> thanks, mjg59 
[04:18] <tritium> BenC: I hear you may be pulling in patches from .16 -- any chance you'll include the patches for iMac G5 fan control?
[04:18] <BenC> you heard wrong :)
[04:19] <tritium> doh!
[04:19] <tritium> Well, shoot, I'm out of questions ;)
[04:21] <BenC> Mithrandir: at the very least, it shoudl be moved to udev
[04:22] <Mithrandir> BenC: true, but it's still a policy decision.
[04:54] <BenC> Mithrandir: after studying, I would say it's a reject
[04:54] <BenC> we don't want to support a lot of legacy junk
[05:09] <Mithrandir> BenC: please reject it, then
[05:10] <zul> alright im out of here
[08:42] <Petaris> BenC: Where could I find the kernel headers for that amd64-k8 kernel?
[08:44] <shutdownrunner> Hi. I'm trying to install ubuntu under compaq deskpro 350. all the time I'm getting errors. Under dapper I don't know what the problem is "Attempted to kill init ...", but under breezy I get "Acpi : Unable to load system description database" and something about [_SB_]  not to be found. Have you got any ideas what this is? If you could suggest where I could look for a solution, I'd also be grateful.
[11:57] <BenC> Mithrandir: ping