=== mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=co@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === alexandros_se [n=olivia@2-1-1-18a.spa.sth.bostream.se] has joined #edubuntu [01:23] hi alexandros_se [01:23] LaserJock: congrats BTW [01:24] mhz: thanks [01:25] alexandros_se: do you have a URL for your project? === mhz is now known as mhz_restartX === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === HedgeMage peeks in === bimberi closes the curtains [02:16] :P [02:16] lol === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-141-13.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [03:03] wb JaneW === raekism [n=raekism@c-68-38-189-125.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_Installing6 === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:03] Anyone here could help me figure out why the Installation forces me to find a CDROM and I can't specify /dev/hdaX instead ? === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_rebooting === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [06:27] ogra: someone has approached me wanting to do that childrens browser thing I suggested === sankarshan is now known as sm|afk === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:53] Laser_away: you away for real? === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ESS-p-144-138-159-134.mega.tmns.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ is now known as bimberi === pygi [n=pygi@83.131.251.238] has joined #edubuntu [07:20] joy, one more application [07:55] pygi: hmm? [07:55] Burgundavia: for SoC [07:55] pygi: ah [07:56] pygi: are you applying or mentoring? [07:56] mentoring [07:56] for edubuntu? [07:56] can the general public see the applications? [07:56] well, if the need arise for Edubuntu as well :) [07:57] Currently, for Bazaar-ng [07:57] Nop, general public cannot see nothing until May, 22 [07:57] someone is corressponding with me privately regarding a possible eduubntu soc for the childrens browser [07:57] And even then I am not sure..perhaps just students [07:58] you are a mentor? [07:58] nope [07:58] ah, I saw that on Gnome page [07:58] and, what does he/she say? [07:59] we are just talking about how to do it right now [07:59] I don't code, so that sort of precludes me doing either [07:59] ah,oki [07:59] you can learn to code =P [08:00] nope, have better things I can do for ubuntu/edubuntu [08:00] true :) [08:00] not many can write a marketing guide or sell it, so I figure my skills are more important there [08:01] agreed =P [08:04] Burgundavia: is there a marketing guide available? [08:05] bimberi: not yet ;) [08:05] there is one coming together here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy?action=edit [08:05] ah yes, i'm aware of that - even made a (minor) contribution :) [08:05] how about for ubuntu? [08:06] the marketing team currently lacks leadership [08:07] hmmk [08:08] and vision === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [08:58] ping highvoltage [09:06] cbx33: pong === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #edubuntu === popey [n=popey@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === pontifex [n=pontifex@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-54-78.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=philipp@hsz-hgkz.isz.ch] has joined #edubuntu [09:52] !seen ajmitch [09:52] ajmitch was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 15d 23h 55m 4s ago, saying: 'might be worth leaving it +R for awhile, as annoying as it is'. === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-54-78.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:57] ping Bluekuja === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [10:21] JaneW: poke poke :) [10:21] woohoo... [10:21] my cloak is setup :p [10:22] hi pygi: sorry my 30 minutes expanded drastically yesterday, I managed to crash evo and ff a few times and had to recover everything several times. [10:22] JaneW: no problem at all :) [10:22] pygi: I am off to me meeting now, but have pencilled out my time when I return for you [10:22] pygi: that ok? [10:22] JaneW: then I'll be out again :P [10:22] pygi: I expect to be back by no later than 10:30 UTC [10:23] I just have a quick question tho if you have time to answer :) [10:23] sure I have a few mins [10:23] Me and Riddell just spoke, and how are mentors assigned? [10:23] do you assign them? [10:23] pygi: also mail me and I promise to respond later, if you have more questions [10:23] assigned to projects/students you mean? [10:23] yup [10:24] last year we assigned them after the projects/students were selected [10:24] JaneW: we're at freeze on the ESA [10:24] and assigned them based on their areas of knowledge [10:24] JaneW: heh,oki [10:24] highvoltage: is checking it out later on today, appreciate any feedback you can give too [10:24] it's not all in the proper order yet [10:24] pygi: so on a best fit basis [10:24] will do that later on today with Laser_away [10:24] JaneW: well, me and Riddell already choosen our students/application, so.. :) [10:24] pygi: security related project went to pitti etc === sm|afk is now known as sankarshan [10:24] pygi: you can nix that one then, np :) [10:25] pygi: cool, are they looking good? [10:25] JaneW: well, you have to apply me =P (I can just say I wanna mentor it), but can't put myself as mentor :) [10:25] pygi: please don't reveal it yet though [10:25] JaneW: yup, very good indeed :) [10:25] Google Announces the suucesful student and what they are working on [10:26] you can let the student know that they are shortlisted though, and encourage them to flesh out the spec and start preparing etc, as the more prepared they are the stronger their chances === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #edubuntu [10:26] AND we certainly can;t commit to anything until after ALL applications are in [10:26] pygi: all ok? [10:27] JaneW: ah,oki. [10:27] thanks :) [10:27] cheers [10:28] I'll be here around 12UTC I believe === alexandros_se [n=alex@2-1-1-18a.spa.sth.bostream.se] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [10:45] morning juliux [10:46] hi cbx33 [10:46] cbx33, how are you? [10:46] yeh I'm good [10:50] you? [10:50] sorry that took a while [10:58] anyone know if the dapper release of the software updates package is set to use a proxy for downloading changes [10:58] cos it's a bug in breezy as far as I can see [10:59] it should probably use Network Proxy I should think [10:59] ping ogra what do you think? [11:01] then you need to set the proxy in the apt settings [11:02] its no bug if a user session setting doesnt affect a system setting, thats a feature, dont forget apt is a sysadmin tool, not a user tool, you run it as a different user [11:03] ok [11:03] i'll try that ogra [11:03] thanks [11:05] see /etc/apt/apt.conf [11:05] yeh [11:05] proxy is in place..... [11:05] hmmm.... [11:05] proxy is in place but changelogs are never downloaded === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [11:10] ok, ogra it is a bug, confirmed, if I run update manager from the command line, with an export of the proxy settings, it works [11:10] I'll check launchpad to see if its a bug [11:10] ask mvo in -devel if he considers it a bug please [11:10] I can't get into devel at the mo [11:10] I'm on cgi-irc [11:11] I'll do it tonight [11:11] yup it's ok [11:11] it's fixed [11:12] in dapper [11:15] hmm.....not documented the bug that I'm talking about though.... [11:15] I'll do some more investigating [11:15] it was aproxy related bug....but different === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-181-119.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [11:41] cbx33, ping [11:53] hi [11:53] what's up [11:54] I gotta dash for a while...some video recording and photos to take.....I'll ping you when i return? [11:54] bbrs === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu [12:26] !seen hlk [12:26] highvoltage: i haven't seen 'hlk' [12:52] ping JaneW === froud-away [n=froud@dsl-145-47-33.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [12:56] hi bimberi [12:56] hi cbx33 [12:56] nice cloak:) [12:56] :D:D [12:56] I know [12:56] just waiting for me mail address now [12:57] apparently they got broken when elmo tried to add support for edubuntu and kubuntu members [12:57] ah :| [12:57] so Bluekuja and I are without them :( [12:57] Bluekuja? but he's an ubuntu member (only) [12:58] yeh but all new members are broken [12:58] hmmk [12:58] cbx33: pong [12:58] :( [12:58] hi JaneW got time now? [12:58] yes [12:58] :) [12:58] nice [12:58] well, I was thinking, I spoke to highvoltage earlier [12:59] and I was expressing my interest in taking ubuntu/edubuntu to the BETT show in London [12:59] it'sthe biggest technology in education show in the UK [12:59] once a year [01:00] but although there is some Opensource presense [01:00] there is no real linux presense [01:00] it would be fantastic to take ubuntu there and show off what we can really do [01:00] i know funding would be an issue, but I feel it would be so beneficial for us to get there [01:01] have a few LTSP cilents running for people to try out [01:01] etc etc [01:01] sounds good [01:01] when/where is it [01:01] London [01:01] in January/Febuary [01:01] not quite sure when [01:01] John Ridge (school forge) recommended we attend last year [01:01] Yes definitely [01:01] or was it this year? [01:01] yes [01:01] this year [01:01] we weren't ready though [01:01] back at the beginning of the year [01:01] no [01:02] will possibly be good timing for the next [01:02] definitely [01:02] we'll have 6.10 out then [01:02] esp with all the ESA work we're doing [01:02] and should be pretty entrenched by then [01:02] cbx33: can you prepare a proposal? [01:02] of course [01:02] wiki it? [01:02] we'll need to motivate to get corp sponsorship [01:02] yes good idea [01:02] of course we will [01:03] I'll setup a page now unless you want to [01:03] moodle managed to get there this year...ok it was a small stand, but they got there by donations [01:03] if we get management support we *may* be able to get the ubuntu exhibition stand [01:03] THAT would be AWESOME [01:03] and we will have CDs now [01:03] I'd definitely be interested in representing if people wanted [01:03] and hopefully we can get some of the advocacy stuff printed [01:03] JaneW: that's my plan :p [01:04] I expect we may get an Ubuntu stand and can show case ed/K/X/Ububtu etc all at once [01:04] unless it;s only appropriate for Edubuntu...? [01:04] yeh that would be awesome [01:04] well it's for education [01:04] but [01:04] let's see what we can pull off [01:04] ther eare so many offshoots [01:04] indeed [01:04] it would be great to demo an LTSP lab set-up etc [01:04] do kids attend? [01:04] and I think one of the strongest arguments was one that I wrote a section on in the latest wiki [01:05] JaneW: yes they sometimes do [01:05] I could take youthlug along with me :p [01:05] cos it would be nice to get them to give edubuntu a try and see how they take to it [01:05] cbx33: we'll have a stronger argument to get this to happen if you are there and able to co-ordinate etc [01:06] i would be willing to [01:06] and I'm sure my boss would let me go [01:06] if not I'll take holioday [01:06] also even if we don't get any/enough corp sponsorship we have enough time to look for alternate sponsors if we have to [01:06] :) [01:06] yes [01:06] JaneW: it would be so awesome [01:07] we could be the ones to take linux to the show :p [01:07] edubuntu would get massive exposure [01:07] I can;t promise Mark or anyone, but I do think if we get organised enough and have enough interest in edubuntu and he is available he'll start wanting to see how we are doing... [01:07] yes [01:07] cbx33: as kiko would say 'DOIT!' [01:07] it'd be great [01:08] :p [01:08] hehehe === cbx33 is getting excited now [01:08] who do you think we could get? [01:08] ok can you start investigating and we'll discuss as required. bring it up in the weekly meetings too, and we can always schedule sep meetings too [01:08] we should try to get a UK Edubuntu LoCo going [01:08] is there one :p [01:08] what show are you talking about? [01:08] oh i see what you mean [01:08] yes [01:09] lucasvo: [01:09] BETT [01:09] cbx33: let's start with a proposal for management ad see how keen and taken they are with it [01:09] ok [01:09] I'll get cracking on that later on [01:09] we need to seel what's good about BETT and why we should be there [01:09] ok [01:09] seel=sell [01:09] and how we would/could benefit from the exposure [01:09] yes [01:10] thanks for suggesting it :) [01:10] np, I'll get to work as soon as I can [01:11] I'll submit it as a spec in LP [01:12] i mean on the wiki [01:12] JaneW: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/BETTShow2007 [01:12] It'll be fleshed out as soon as I get a spare second === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [01:14] btw, does edubuntu need more software? [01:14] Dr. Geo is a pretty nice Geometry software [01:14] lucasvo: of course [01:14] hmm [01:14] lucasvo, drgeo is a longstanding request [01:14] btw i wonder if the gtk conversion of kdeedu would be a good idea [01:15] yes! [01:15] I want to remove all the QT crap [01:15] anyone got an idea of the size difference [01:15] but as long as we ship kig we wont include it (to avoid duplication) [01:15] ogra: ok [01:15] cbx33: great [01:16] how does kig compare to drGeo [01:17] and i wanted to ask is ther ean ongoing review of kdeedu and the parts we are chopping so we always have the best from it? === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === rjohn [n=Ekushey@203.112.197.101] has joined #edubuntu [01:20] cbx33: I'll install dr. geo and write a review === rjohn [n=Ekushey@203.112.197.101] has left #edubuntu [] [01:23] ogra: there was an article about dr. geo in either LInuxUser or Magazin [01:23] i know [01:23] oooh [01:23] thanks lucasvo [01:23] i'd have included it already but we decided not to change much for dapper [01:24] bbl [01:24] ogra: so edgy? [01:24] and it was broken and immature in breezy [01:24] yep [01:24] hehe [01:24] is it written down somewhere, so it doesn't gets forgotten? [01:24] btw, is there a general wishlist for edubuntu edgy? [01:25] not yet ... only the one in my head [01:25] but i dont have the time now to think about edgy [01:25] ok [01:26] lets get dapper out, then we'll have two weeks before the conference to make every list you want [01:26] :) === froud-away is now known as froud [01:29] that success story idea is pretty good [01:29] btw, how can one get into the webteam(if there is one) [01:36] lucasvo: theres a launchpad team you can join [01:37] lucasvo: we haven't got the webteam entirely sorted out yet, but were getting closer to getting there === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu [01:39] hey when did the new site go live??? [01:39] highvoltage: ^^ [01:39] :))) [01:40] JaneW: monday, i think. at least, that's when i first saw it :) === JaneW may have been looking at a cached version :( [01:40] now that I refeshed it's all sparkly and new :)) [01:40] wow. what caches that heavy? [01:40] ah yes, firefox :) [01:40] YAY [01:41] yes fiefox [01:41] +r [01:41] looks nice [01:41] should we announce it somewhere? [01:42] i don't really feel like making a noise about it. probably because i've had frustrations with it and it's not as good as it should be yet. [01:42] ok [01:42] i want to put much more content in there, problem is, it's content that i still need to write :) [01:42] (or someone, at least) [01:42] also I think we need an updated wiki template to match [01:42] how possible is that? [01:43] still it does look good so far, so THANKS! :) [01:46] ogra: we have another Malcolm now! [01:47] def a selective naming recruitment policy :) [01:47] JaneW: very possible [01:48] JaneW: i've got the templates from heno because i wanted to make one for wiki.xubuntu.org [01:48] 2x Jane, 2x Claire, 2x Malcolm, 2x Jeff, 2x Martin, 2x Daniel etc [01:48] JaneW: by the end of tomorrow i should have an lts.conf mini-howto too :) [01:48] JaneW: a few jonathans too [01:48] highvoltage: \o/ [01:48] yes [01:49] ubuntu has a lot of redundency that way [01:49] :) [01:49] its only me thats still unique [01:49] :) [01:49] there's still just one ogra thoug h:) [01:49] ogra: yes the one and only [01:49] you have no redundancy === ogra waits for the other oliver then :) [01:52] https://launchpad.net/people/?name=oliver&searchfor=all [01:56] pfft, it doesnt list a total number anywhere ... === ogra kicks LP [01:57] pity. we could've compared who there is more of :) [01:57] we should make a feature request [02:00] yep [02:17] highvoltage: webteam [02:17] ? [02:17] what is this webteam you speak of? [02:17] :p [02:19] cbx33: https://launchpad.net/people/?name=edubuntu&searchfor=teamsonly [02:19] see edubuntu-website [02:20] does anybody have some pics of a edubuntu lab ? i have spacey's the one sent to the ML yesterday from mexico, some from jsgotango and the ones from kjcole [02:20] (i'd like to use them in my slides tomorrow) [02:20] oooh [02:20] i suppose a tuxlab won't work? [02:20] oh yeh i forgot about that ogra [02:20] good luck for tomorrow [02:21] highvoltage, at least one tuxlab pic would be good [02:21] since i want to refer to tuxlabs indeed :) === cbx33 will get pics soon [02:21] once it's all rolled out and working [02:21] wont help me today though :) [02:22] I'm sorry ogra [02:22] dont worry. i'll get enough together [02:24] highvoltage: mind if I join the web team? [02:24] :p [02:24] cbx33: not at all [02:24] ogra: this is the first time these kids were using ubuntu: http://photos.jonathancarter.co.za/tuxlabkzn1/PICT0110 [02:25] ogra: they figure it out extremely quickly [02:25] highvoltage, perfect ! [02:25] that is so cool ogra [02:28] ogra??? i meant highvoltage === popey [n=popey@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === pontifex [n=pontifex@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === Pygi [n=mario@195.29.212.226] has joined #edubuntu [02:52] JaneW: I am kinda back :) === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AF871.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [03:05] highvoltage: ping [03:07] hi [03:08] i'm trying edubuntu-beta2-live cd [03:08] BugMaN: any bugs? [03:08] i see that a menu string is not translated in italian [03:08] yeah the nick is scary [03:08] the "workstation" install ? [03:08] graphical mode [03:08] second one [03:09] there is a package in rosetta? [03:09] yeah, known bug, its not translated to german as well yet [03:09] ok [03:10] i dont think so, d-i has a separate translation iirc, but ask Kamion in #ubuntu-devel, he can point you to the translations for d-i [03:14] Pygi: hi, I am here for 15 mins, wanna chat? [03:14] JaneW: nice :) [03:14] Pygi: I have finally caught up with the SoC mailing list now :) [03:14] JaneW: joy, congrats :) [03:14] :) [03:15] and I have checked out SOME of the applications [03:15] oki, want my opinion on all of them? :) [03:15] want to PM? [03:15] hm, sure === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu [03:29] froud: pong [03:29] highvoltage: jabber === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-54-78.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has left #edubuntu [] === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:54] ogra: hi there. Have you seen highvoltage around? [03:54] he was around earlier mhz [03:54] !seen highvoltage [03:54] highvoltage is currently on #edubuntu (2h 36m 10s) #ubuntu (2h 36m 10s) [03:54] cbx33: oh thx [03:54] ogra: duh! I forgot we have bots [03:55] I wrote a HowTo Installing From file.Iso at a hd partition [03:56] that works very well for LiveCd's (knoppix, elive, dsl, etc) BUT edubuntu-live :( [03:56] why would you do it with edubuntu-live ? we have a live installer [03:56] In edbuntu-live, I just get to a #busybox [03:57] ogra: of, course, my firts try was edubuntu-install... BUT [03:57] it keeps asking me to load a CD drive [03:57] and neither of the other distros you listed uses such a new technology for the liveCD as we do (initramfs, squashfs etc) [03:57] so did you try out ubiquity on edubuntu-live ? === cbx33 has [03:58] I like it [03:58] I specify the /dev/hda8 (where I have the edubuntu-install) [03:58] i shuld really try the desktop install [03:58] ogra: 'ubiquity'? [03:58] cbx33, for next flight [03:58] mhz, yes, the live installer [03:58] I havn;t tried it at all yet [03:59] please, dont forget I am trying this "unusual" ways of installing becasue I can't boot directly from PCMCIA Drive [03:59] ogra: Figure out what to do to make the CD small enough? [03:59] ogra: are we having our own startup and shutdown sounds? [03:59] Amaranth, just patching gcompris with upstreams patch, lets see what that gains us [03:59] cbx33, nope [04:00] awww [04:00] :p [04:00] i thought that would only cut off ~2MB [04:00] ogra: got any cd's you want me to try out? [04:00] Amaranth, he found another ~4MB file ;) [04:00] cbx33, nope [04:00]