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=== marseillai vous souhaite une bonne nuit!
Lathiatmarseillai: what kind of problems are you having?01:03
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pygiRiddell: around? 07:24
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NeoChaosXquestion if anyone listening: is anything that's in main included on the CDs?07:45
freeflyingNeoChaosX: what's you mean?07:46
NeoChaosXi mean, for instance, knetworkmanager is in the main component (it used to be in universe). would it (and any other main packages) be included on Kubuntu CDs?07:47
pygiNeoChaosX: huh. well, main (not entire tho) and restricted are only ones to be included on the CD07:48
NeoChaosXah, okay, i see07:49
NeoChaosXi'm certainly hoping knetworkmanager gets included on a default Kubuntu dapper install07:49
pygiwill probably not, but I think it'll ship on cd07:50
freeflyingNeoChaosX: it's in progress07:50
NeoChaosXfreeflying: ah, i see. thanks07:50
NeoChaosXpygi: well at least it'll be installable without internet07:50
pygiNo Kubuntu SoC applications yet :-/07:51
pygiAh, I guess they'll come last hour or so :)07:52
ajmitch_pygi: none at all?07:52
ajmitch_hm07:52
pygiajmitch_: none at all :-/07:52
NeoChaosXYeah, no projects listed yet07:52
pygiNeoChaosX: heh, you are a mentor?07:53
NeoChaosXno, just looking at the SoC page07:53
NeoChaosXjust a lowly college student interested in the Kubuntu project and KDE07:54
ajmitch_projects won't be listed on google's page until they're announced on the 22nd/23rd07:54
pygiajmitch_: agreed. thats how I was wondering where he was looking at =P07:54
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pefhello08:52
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Riddellpygi: hi09:22
Riddellpef: hi09:22
pefhello Jonathan09:22
pygiRiddell; none of Kubuntu SoC applications by now :(09:22
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Riddellpygi: how do you mean?09:26
pefRiddell: have you upload logs access ?09:26
Riddellnope09:26
pygiRiddell: well, nobody wants to do things for Kubuntu :-/09:27
Riddellpygi: how do you know?09:27
pygiRiddell: 'cause I am a mentor and can see current applications? :)09:28
Riddellyou can?09:28
Riddellwhat are you mentoring for?09:28
pygiwell, I'll be mentoring bzr-gui, but I am open for one more project if it's nice :)09:28
Riddellso how do we see the current applications?09:29
pygihttp://code.google.com/soc/mentor_home.html09:29
pygiyou go here :)09:29
raphink-pbookhi Riddell && pygi09:30
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pygihi raphink-pbook09:31
raphink-pbookhow are you?09:32
pygitired, otherwise good :) And you?09:32
pygiRiddell: do you see them now? :)09:32
raphink-pbooktired too09:32
pygieh :-/09:33
pygiWill be better from next week tho :)09:33
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raphink-pbooknice09:33
pygialtought I'd have to do some work there as well, but heh :)09:34
pygiat least a lill' rest =P09:34
raphink-pbookhehe09:34
Riddellpygi: I see it, there's a few KDE ones there09:36
pygiRiddell: huh???09:37
pygiwhich ones?09:37
RiddellKDE formating tool, Koffice filters, KOffice filters for MS Office documents, KUduntu : Kde/Kat, Kubuntu OEM Redistribution Tools09:37
pygiRiddell: heh, that are ideas09:38
pygiRiddell: but nobody applied to do them09:38
pygiI am not sure you see what I see :)09:38
pygigo here and tell me what you see09:38
pygihttp://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/app.html?csaid=Szilveszter.Farkas@gmail.com:f57b5588:ae8c632609:38
Riddelllooks to me like people have applied for them09:39
Riddellthat's an application from  09:39
Riddell Szilveszter Farkas09:39
pygiRiddell: no, you are wrong :)09:39
Riddellhow so?09:39
pygiRiddell: oki, and do you see the text of application?09:39
Riddellyes09:40
pygiRiddell: here are the applications list09:40
pygihttp://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/open.html09:40
pygiNone KDE or Kubuntu related :)09:40
Riddellall the ones I listed09:41
RiddellI just need to rank them up a bit09:41
pygiRiddell: I really don't see any KDE applications :-/09:42
Riddellclick "Forward >>"09:42
pygiRiddell: care to send me a screenshoot of applications screen?09:42
pygiO joy, indeed :-/09:42
pygibut notice the "Applications below this line are less likely to be accepted."09:43
Riddellwell, we need to vote them up a bit then09:43
Riddell"Kubuntu OEM Redistribution Tools" and "KDE formating tool" would be the best09:43
pygiRiddell: agreed, but voting doesn't really matter if projects don't have a mentor :)09:44
Riddellhow do we assign a mentor?09:44
pygiwell, you just say you wanna mentor it09:44
pygiYou have evaluation thingy09:45
Riddellsay where?09:45
pygiunder the application text09:45
Riddelloh, I see09:45
Riddellif I score it +4 that means I'm happy to mentor it09:45
Riddellwell I'm happy for both of those certainly09:45
pygiRiddell: are applications good?09:45
pygisec, lemme read them pls :)09:46
pygiRiddell: make sure you don't mentor too much projects tho =P09:46
Riddellthe OEM one is very kubuntu specific, that's my preference09:46
pygioki, just a sec pls09:46
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Riddellthe formatting tool is something that kubuntu lacks and would make a good soc project in terms of difficulty09:46
Riddellstuff like Koffice filters is less appropriate09:47
pygiRiddell: ok, go ahead with OEM thingy09:47
pygiseems nice application09:47
Riddellso if return for you +2-ing those two, I'd be happy to +2 something of your choosing :)09:48
Riddell"Graphical User Interface for Bazaar-NG", hmm can we poke him to make it pyqt? :)09:48
pygiRiddell: considering I'll be mentoring it, I guess perhaps he could be able to provide QT version as well (perhaps after SoC tho)09:49
pygiBut I have to learn him QT first =P09:49
pygiRiddell: just gimme a sec to look over formatting thingy09:49
pygiRiddell: "konkeror" is what? :)09:50
Riddella french konqueror? :)09:51
pygiah :P09:51
pygiwhy is he mentioning his computers =P09:51
pygithat's almost the same as somebody mentioning wedding =P09:51
pygiRiddell: I am not sure if this application is appropriate...it doesn't use (or at least I can't see it) things you meantioned on wiki09:52
Riddelllike what?09:53
pygiwell, built on "Solid" thingy09:54
Riddellthat won't be ready until kde 409:54
pygiah,oki09:55
pygiWell, apply as mentor to both of these projects then09:55
pygiif they are highest priority09:55
pygiRiddell: and you've got my +2 :)09:56
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Riddelldone09:58
pygioki, now that's practicly accepted by google as well :)09:59
pygihm, please +2 to graphical user interface for Bazaar-Ng09:59
Riddelldone10:00
Riddellalthough didn't keybuk already do one?10:01
pyginop, I think he didn't10:01
pygithanks :)10:01
pygiRiddell: done same for your applications :)10:02
pygibut actually applications might have 1000 points, but if they don't have a mentor, they fail =P10:02
pygiheh, please take a look at Ubiquity Migration Assisant10:03
pygiRiddell: you there?10:04
pygithis Mickael  applied for 3 things as I see =P10:09
pygiRiddell: and that less likely to be accepted means by Google10:10
Riddellhow do we get a mentor assigned?10:19
pygiRiddell: we poke JaneW I suppose, but I don't think we'll be doing that before May,8 (altought I think its nonsense if we have good applications)10:21
pygiRiddell: I am just poking her now10:21
pygiRiddell: Is KDE formatting tool application nice enough?10:21
Riddellnice enough for what?10:22
pygiwell, for actual use, etc. L(10:22
pygi:)10:22
RiddellI'll e-ail the guy and suggest he comes in here10:23
pygioki doki10:23
pygiRiddell: I'll be probably out soon, but I shall get back later10:25
pygiplease make sure we get the best possible deliverabilities :)10:26
pygiRiddell: JaneW> you can let the student know that they are shortlisted though, and encourage them to flesh out the spec and start preparing etc, as the more prepared they are the stronger their chances10:27
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hungerIs there a deb of icecream?10:56
hungerThat kde distcc thingy... works really nice.10:56
Riddellhunger: I uploaded it recently, I think it's still in new11:00
Riddellit's called icecc11:00
hungerRiddell: Thanks!11:01
hungerRiddell: how do I get debs from new?11:05
Riddellhunger: you can't11:32
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RiddellI'll try and find them once these installs are done11:33
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hungerRiddell: THanks, but keep doing whatever you are doing.11:34
hungerRiddell: I grabbed the kde code from svn and build debs from that.11:34
hungerRiddell: I don't want to keep you from doing your kubuntu-magic:-)11:35
Riddellyeah, that should be fine11:37
RiddellI modified the packaging a bit but not very much11:37
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OdyXHeyall. Has someone else have a problem with libpowersave10 on updating?11:57
OdyXWants constantly to update it...11:57
Riddelldoes it fail to install?12:04
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mornfallwha?12:13
mornfallpeople are insane12:14
mornfallRiddell: is there a public url?12:14
mornfallam i supposed to mentor that?12:14
Riddellmornfall: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/soc.png12:16
mornfallwhat i say, insane12:16
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mornfallRiddell: i don't think that project is useful12:18
Riddellnil points then12:20
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OdyXRiddell: ping02:50
OdyXRiddell: what do you want me to do with kdeprint bugs? Here&now, e-mail or bug report in LP?02:51
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bddebianHowdy folks03:29
freeflyingbddebian: hi03:30
bddebianHeya freeflying03:30
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raphinkthere goes the korganizer fix03:32
raphinkup up up03:32
raphink:)03:32
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bddebianw00t03:33
raphink:)03:33
raphinkhi bddebian03:33
bddebianHello raphink03:33
raphinkyeehee03:33
raphink:)03:33
freeflyingraphink: hi03:33
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raphinkhi freeflying03:33
freeflyingraphink: how about linuxtag03:33
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Hobbseego sleep raphink 03:37
Hobbsee:P03:37
bddebianSleep in the booth? :-)03:39
Hobbseethat's the one...03:39
Hobbseeworks wonderfully that way...03:39
raphinkHobbsee: haha03:41
raphinkI get questions all the time03:41
raphinkand trying to develop and chat at the same time03:41
Hobbseehehe03:42
raphinks/develop/hack/03:42
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freeflyingHobbsee: hi04:02
Hobbseehi freeflying 04:02
freeflyingHobbsee: do you know Tm_T's repo?04:02
Hobbseefreeflying: tm_t's?  i dont, sorry04:03
freeflyingHobbsee: okey,thx04:03
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PygiRiddell: around?04:27
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alleeraphink: ping?05:01
alleeraphink: ping?05:02
alleeraphink: ping?05:02
alleeraphink: ping?05:02
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freeflyingallee: raphink is in dream now :)05:02
raphinkallee: :p05:03
raphinkallee is just to my immediate left05:03
raphinkhe can ask me if he wants to talk to me :p05:03
bddebianhehe05:06
raphinkupgrade your boxes guys, korganizer works again :)05:07
alleeraphink: ignores when I talk to him.  On IRC it's better :) :)05:09
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Everyone should be on the look out for regressions w.r.t. buttons in systemsettngs. || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLinuxTag2006 || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUbiquity || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meetings in #ubuntu-meeting -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- Next meeting is 11/05/06 2100 UTC
=== Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Wed May 3 13:56:43 2006
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Everyone should be on the look out for regressions w.r.t. buttons in systemsettngs. || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLinuxTag2006 || https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUbiquity || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ || Kubuntu meetings in #ubuntu-meeting -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings -- Next meeting is 11/05/06 2100 UTC
=== Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Wed May 3 13:56:43 2006
abattoirRiddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview06:18
abattoirI havent looked at the code yet... so i havent covered the technical bits...06:19
abattoirI'll add them as soon as my exams get over :) 06:19
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jpatrickTonio_: hi06:29
Tonio_hey06:30
jpatrickGnash works here06:30
Tonio_I have to prepare, I have my train in 2 hours....06:30
Tonio_jpatrick: the standard player or the mozilla component ?06:30
jpatrickKonqueror plugin06:30
Tonio_the standard player works nicelly for me06:30
bddebianHello Tonio_06:30
Tonio_jpatrick: what revision did you take ?06:30
Tonio_bddebian: ;)06:30
jpatrickTonio_: same as two days ago06:31
Tonio_jpatrick: hum, dunno what you could have hanged, but that's nice ;)06:31
Tonio_jpatrick: used cdbs ?06:31
jpatrickTonio_: although I do have Riddell's problem06:31
Tonio_jpatrick: which is ?06:31
jpatrickuses 100% of CPU, brings system to near halt06:32
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Tonio_jpatrick: ah...06:32
Tonio_jpatrick: could you send me your package ?06:32
Tonio_I'd like to compare06:32
jpatrickI haven't packaged06:32
jpatrick...yet06:32
Tonio_maybe we have the same and it doesn't work here due to my config06:32
Tonio_jpatrick: ah ok you compiled...06:32
Tonio_that might explain the difference06:32
jpatrickI will do in a while06:33
Tonio_jpatrick: cause I did a very very basic package, since debian folder is given, I just used it06:33
Tonio_I should maybe try to make my own....06:33
Tonio_jpatrick: anyway, it isn't mature at the moment, but we need to look carefully for edgy I assume :)06:34
jpatrickyeah06:34
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Tonio_let's wait 3 month and retry ;)06:34
LureRiddell: aware of any hangs with today's ubiquity?06:35
Tonio_Lure: hey ;)06:36
LureTonio_: hi06:36
Tonio_Lure: I am supposed to meet timo tomorrow ;)06:36
LureTonio_: great06:37
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kmonhi06:38
kmonRiddell: you forgot to remove kwifimanager now that dapper uses wlassist06:38
kmon:)06:38
jpatrickI think he's getting round to doing that06:39
kmonah06:39
kmonok06:39
kmonI was pointing it out just in case :)06:39
kmonhi jpatrick06:40
jpatrickhi kmon06:40
Tonio_I am just sad wlassistant doesn't manage wpa at all....06:40
kmonTonio_: only knetworkmanager06:41
Tonio_let's hope we can use knetworkmanager by default with network-manager 0.706:41
Tonio_kmon: the issue is if we use it as default, we need to ensure we have tcp/ip control06:41
Tonio_that will only be added with next major version06:41
kmonyes06:41
kmonis 0.7 that mayor version?06:42
Tonio_kmon: yup06:42
kmonany idea when it's planned to be released?06:43
Tonio_kmon: just we don't know if it'll be release before edgy or not, since the delay between dapper and edgy is short....06:43
bddebianYou folks bugs are just too hard :-)06:43
Tonio_kmon: you know, it is free software, so "when ready" is the rule :)06:43
kmonTonio_: yes. Except for gnome ;)06:43
Tonio_kmon: yes, gnome is an exception on that point06:43
Tonio_bddebian: yes, kde structure is a bit complex ;)06:44
Tonio_that is maybe the reason it is more buggy than gnome06:44
Tonio_that's the only thing I'm jalous with gnome06:45
Tonio_it is really stable06:45
Tonio_oh and compiz works on it too :)06:46
Tonio_bddebian: did you try aiglx + compiz ?06:46
bddebianno06:46
Tonio_some say it works very nicelly, and is much easier to install and implement than xgl06:46
insanekanehi ... has anyone ever faced an issue with a segfault in QShared::deref() ?06:46
Tonio_since it is just a little xorg module06:46
kmontomorrow is kubuntu booth at linux tag06:48
kmonisn't it?06:48
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Tonio_kmon: yes, the ubuntu day ;)06:48
Tonio_ok I have to prepare06:49
Tonio_have a nice week end all :)06:49
kmonare you doing a talk?06:49
jpatrickTonio_: cya06:49
Tonio_kmon: yes, I will talk about the community06:50
Tonio_with raphink06:50
kmonTonio_: good luck then :)06:50
Tonio_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuLinuxTagMeetings?highlight=%28linuxtag%2906:50
Tonio_kmon: well I didn't have time to prepare it, so it'll be a bit short with raphink tomorrow ;)06:51
kmonhehe06:51
Tonio_talking after Mark and Riddell.... not an easy trick ;)06:52
kmonyes06:52
kmonhehe06:52
Tonio_kmon: pray for me plz ;)06:53
Tonio_kmon: will need that at least ;)06:53
Tonio_btw, have a nice WE everybody ^^06:54
jpatrickWE?06:54
bddebianWeek End?06:54
jpatrickOui06:54
Tonio_jpatrick: that's a good begining :)06:55
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bddebianBye07:03
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poimensup!?08:33
poimenit is save to run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade from rc1? I will leave me at the current dev system?08:33
jpatrickyes08:35
poimenok 30 min to go then in the 250mb download08:36
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mornfallha08:59
bddebianack09:01
insanekanehi ... has anyone ever faced an issue with a segfault in QShared::deref() ?09:03
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