[01:03] <Lathiat> marseillai: what kind of problems are you having?
[07:24] <pygi> Riddell: around? 
[07:45] <NeoChaosX> question if anyone listening: is anything that's in main included on the CDs?
[07:46] <freeflying> NeoChaosX: what's you mean?
[07:47] <NeoChaosX> i mean, for instance, knetworkmanager is in the main component (it used to be in universe). would it (and any other main packages) be included on Kubuntu CDs?
[07:48] <pygi> NeoChaosX: huh. well, main (not entire tho) and restricted are only ones to be included on the CD
[07:49] <NeoChaosX> ah, okay, i see
[07:49] <NeoChaosX> i'm certainly hoping knetworkmanager gets included on a default Kubuntu dapper install
[07:50] <pygi> will probably not, but I think it'll ship on cd
[07:50] <freeflying> NeoChaosX: it's in progress
[07:50] <NeoChaosX> freeflying: ah, i see. thanks
[07:50] <NeoChaosX> pygi: well at least it'll be installable without internet
[07:51] <pygi> No Kubuntu SoC applications yet :-/
[07:52] <pygi> Ah, I guess they'll come last hour or so :)
[07:52] <ajmitch_> pygi: none at all?
[07:52] <ajmitch_> hm
[07:52] <pygi> ajmitch_: none at all :-/
[07:52] <NeoChaosX> Yeah, no projects listed yet
[07:53] <pygi> NeoChaosX: heh, you are a mentor?
[07:53] <NeoChaosX> no, just looking at the SoC page
[07:54] <NeoChaosX> just a lowly college student interested in the Kubuntu project and KDE
[07:54] <ajmitch_> projects won't be listed on google's page until they're announced on the 22nd/23rd
[07:54] <pygi> ajmitch_: agreed. thats how I was wondering where he was looking at =P
[08:52] <pef> hello
[09:22] <Riddell> pygi: hi
[09:22] <Riddell> pef: hi
[09:22] <pef> hello Jonathan
[09:22] <pygi> Riddell; none of Kubuntu SoC applications by now :(
[09:26] <Riddell> pygi: how do you mean?
[09:26] <pef> Riddell: have you upload logs access ?
[09:26] <Riddell> nope
[09:27] <pygi> Riddell: well, nobody wants to do things for Kubuntu :-/
[09:27] <Riddell> pygi: how do you know?
[09:28] <pygi> Riddell: 'cause I am a mentor and can see current applications? :)
[09:28] <Riddell> you can?
[09:28] <Riddell> what are you mentoring for?
[09:28] <pygi> well, I'll be mentoring bzr-gui, but I am open for one more project if it's nice :)
[09:29] <Riddell> so how do we see the current applications?
[09:29] <pygi> http://code.google.com/soc/mentor_home.html
[09:29] <pygi> you go here :)
[09:30] <raphink-pbook> hi Riddell && pygi
[09:31] <pygi> hi raphink-pbook
[09:32] <raphink-pbook> how are you?
[09:32] <pygi> tired, otherwise good :) And you?
[09:32] <pygi> Riddell: do you see them now? :)
[09:32] <raphink-pbook> tired too
[09:33] <pygi> eh :-/
[09:33] <pygi> Will be better from next week tho :)
[09:33] <raphink-pbook> nice
[09:34] <pygi> altought I'd have to do some work there as well, but heh :)
[09:34] <pygi> at least a lill' rest =P
[09:34] <raphink-pbook> hehe
[09:36] <Riddell> pygi: I see it, there's a few KDE ones there
[09:37] <pygi> Riddell: huh???
[09:37] <pygi> which ones?
[09:37] <Riddell> KDE formating tool, Koffice filters, KOffice filters for MS Office documents, KUduntu : Kde/Kat, Kubuntu OEM Redistribution Tools
[09:38] <pygi> Riddell: heh, that are ideas
[09:38] <pygi> Riddell: but nobody applied to do them
[09:38] <pygi> I am not sure you see what I see :)
[09:38] <pygi> go here and tell me what you see
[09:38] <pygi> http://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/app.html?csaid=Szilveszter.Farkas@gmail.com:f57b5588:ae8c6326
[09:39] <Riddell> looks to me like people have applied for them
[09:39] <Riddell> that's an application from  
[09:39] <Riddell>  Szilveszter Farkas
[09:39] <pygi> Riddell: no, you are wrong :)
[09:39] <Riddell> how so?
[09:39] <pygi> Riddell: oki, and do you see the text of application?
[09:40] <Riddell> yes
[09:40] <pygi> Riddell: here are the applications list
[09:40] <pygi> http://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/open.html
[09:40] <pygi> None KDE or Kubuntu related :)
[09:41] <Riddell> all the ones I listed
[09:41] <Riddell> I just need to rank them up a bit
[09:42] <pygi> Riddell: I really don't see any KDE applications :-/
[09:42] <Riddell> click "Forward >>"
[09:42] <pygi> Riddell: care to send me a screenshoot of applications screen?
[09:42] <pygi> O joy, indeed :-/
[09:43] <pygi> but notice the "Applications below this line are less likely to be accepted."
[09:43] <Riddell> well, we need to vote them up a bit then
[09:43] <Riddell> "Kubuntu OEM Redistribution Tools" and "KDE formating tool" would be the best
[09:44] <pygi> Riddell: agreed, but voting doesn't really matter if projects don't have a mentor :)
[09:44] <Riddell> how do we assign a mentor?
[09:44] <pygi> well, you just say you wanna mentor it
[09:45] <pygi> You have evaluation thingy
[09:45] <Riddell> say where?
[09:45] <pygi> under the application text
[09:45] <Riddell> oh, I see
[09:45] <Riddell> if I score it +4 that means I'm happy to mentor it
[09:45] <Riddell> well I'm happy for both of those certainly
[09:45] <pygi> Riddell: are applications good?
[09:46] <pygi> sec, lemme read them pls :)
[09:46] <pygi> Riddell: make sure you don't mentor too much projects tho =P
[09:46] <Riddell> the OEM one is very kubuntu specific, that's my preference
[09:46] <pygi> oki, just a sec pls
[09:46] <Riddell> the formatting tool is something that kubuntu lacks and would make a good soc project in terms of difficulty
[09:47] <Riddell> stuff like Koffice filters is less appropriate
[09:47] <pygi> Riddell: ok, go ahead with OEM thingy
[09:47] <pygi> seems nice application
[09:48] <Riddell> so if return for you +2-ing those two, I'd be happy to +2 something of your choosing :)
[09:48] <Riddell> "Graphical User Interface for Bazaar-NG", hmm can we poke him to make it pyqt? :)
[09:49] <pygi> Riddell: considering I'll be mentoring it, I guess perhaps he could be able to provide QT version as well (perhaps after SoC tho)
[09:49] <pygi> But I have to learn him QT first =P
[09:49] <pygi> Riddell: just gimme a sec to look over formatting thingy
[09:50] <pygi> Riddell: "konkeror" is what? :)
[09:51] <Riddell> a french konqueror? :)
[09:51] <pygi> ah :P
[09:51] <pygi> why is he mentioning his computers =P
[09:51] <pygi> that's almost the same as somebody mentioning wedding =P
[09:52] <pygi> Riddell: I am not sure if this application is appropriate...it doesn't use (or at least I can't see it) things you meantioned on wiki
[09:53] <Riddell> like what?
[09:54] <pygi> well, built on "Solid" thingy
[09:54] <Riddell> that won't be ready until kde 4
[09:55] <pygi> ah,oki
[09:55] <pygi> Well, apply as mentor to both of these projects then
[09:55] <pygi> if they are highest priority
[09:56] <pygi> Riddell: and you've got my +2 :)
[09:58] <Riddell> done
[09:59] <pygi> oki, now that's practicly accepted by google as well :)
[09:59] <pygi> hm, please +2 to graphical user interface for Bazaar-Ng
[10:00] <Riddell> done
[10:01] <Riddell> although didn't keybuk already do one?
[10:01] <pygi> nop, I think he didn't
[10:01] <pygi> thanks :)
[10:02] <pygi> Riddell: done same for your applications :)
[10:02] <pygi> but actually applications might have 1000 points, but if they don't have a mentor, they fail =P
[10:03] <pygi> heh, please take a look at Ubiquity Migration Assisant
[10:04] <pygi> Riddell: you there?
[10:09] <pygi> this Mickael  applied for 3 things as I see =P
[10:10] <pygi> Riddell: and that less likely to be accepted means by Google
[10:19] <Riddell> how do we get a mentor assigned?
[10:21] <pygi> Riddell: we poke JaneW I suppose, but I don't think we'll be doing that before May,8 (altought I think its nonsense if we have good applications)
[10:21] <pygi> Riddell: I am just poking her now
[10:21] <pygi> Riddell: Is KDE formatting tool application nice enough?
[10:22] <Riddell> nice enough for what?
[10:22] <pygi> well, for actual use, etc. L(
[10:22] <pygi> :)
[10:23] <Riddell> I'll e-ail the guy and suggest he comes in here
[10:23] <pygi> oki doki
[10:25] <pygi> Riddell: I'll be probably out soon, but I shall get back later
[10:26] <pygi> please make sure we get the best possible deliverabilities :)
[10:27] <pygi> Riddell: JaneW> you can let the student know that they are shortlisted though, and encourage them to flesh out the spec and start preparing etc, as the more prepared they are the stronger their chances
[10:50] <luka74>  /msg nickserv link Lure Fruc5IFN
[10:56] <hunger> Is there a deb of icecream?
[10:56] <hunger> That kde distcc thingy... works really nice.
[11:00] <Riddell> hunger: I uploaded it recently, I think it's still in new
[11:00] <Riddell> it's called icecc
[11:01] <hunger> Riddell: Thanks!
[11:05] <hunger> Riddell: how do I get debs from new?
[11:32] <Riddell> hunger: you can't
[11:33] <Riddell> I'll try and find them once these installs are done
[11:34] <hunger> Riddell: THanks, but keep doing whatever you are doing.
[11:34] <hunger> Riddell: I grabbed the kde code from svn and build debs from that.
[11:35] <hunger> Riddell: I don't want to keep you from doing your kubuntu-magic:-)
[11:37] <Riddell> yeah, that should be fine
[11:37] <Riddell> I modified the packaging a bit but not very much
[11:57] <OdyX> Heyall. Has someone else have a problem with libpowersave10 on updating?
[11:57] <OdyX> Wants constantly to update it...
[12:04] <Riddell> does it fail to install?
[12:13] <mornfall> wha?
[12:14] <mornfall> people are insane
[12:14] <mornfall> Riddell: is there a public url?
[12:14] <mornfall> am i supposed to mentor that?
[12:16] <Riddell> mornfall: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/soc.png
[12:16] <mornfall> what i say, insane
[12:18] <mornfall> Riddell: i don't think that project is useful
[12:20] <Riddell> nil points then
[02:50] <OdyX> Riddell: ping
[02:51] <OdyX> Riddell: what do you want me to do with kdeprint bugs? Here&now, e-mail or bug report in LP?
[03:29] <bddebian> Howdy folks
[03:30] <freeflying> bddebian: hi
[03:30] <bddebian> Heya freeflying
[03:32] <raphink> there goes the korganizer fix
[03:32] <raphink> up up up
[03:32] <raphink> :)
[03:33] <bddebian> w00t
[03:33] <raphink> :)
[03:33] <raphink> hi bddebian
[03:33] <bddebian> Hello raphink
[03:33] <raphink> yeehee
[03:33] <raphink> :)
[03:33] <freeflying> raphink: hi
[03:33] <raphink> hi freeflying
[03:33] <freeflying> raphink: how about linuxtag
[03:37] <Hobbsee> go sleep raphink 
[03:37] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:39] <bddebian> Sleep in the booth? :-)
[03:39] <Hobbsee> that's the one...
[03:39] <Hobbsee> works wonderfully that way...
[03:41] <raphink> Hobbsee: haha
[03:41] <raphink> I get questions all the time
[03:41] <raphink> and trying to develop and chat at the same time
[03:42] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:42] <raphink> s/develop/hack/
[04:02] <freeflying> Hobbsee: hi
[04:02] <Hobbsee> hi freeflying 
[04:02] <freeflying> Hobbsee: do you know Tm_T's repo?
[04:03] <Hobbsee> freeflying: tm_t's?  i dont, sorry
[04:03] <freeflying> Hobbsee: okey,thx
[04:27] <Pygi> Riddell: around?
[05:01] <allee> raphink: ping?
[05:02] <allee> raphink: ping?
[05:02] <allee> raphink: ping?
[05:02] <allee> raphink: ping?
[05:02] <freeflying> allee: raphink is in dream now :)
[05:03] <raphink> allee: :p
[05:03] <raphink> allee is just to my immediate left
[05:03] <raphink> he can ask me if he wants to talk to me :p
[05:06] <bddebian> hehe
[05:07] <raphink> upgrade your boxes guys, korganizer works again :)
[05:09] <allee> raphink: ignores when I talk to him.  On IRC it's better :) :)
[06:18] <abattoir> Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[06:19] <abattoir> I havent looked at the code yet... so i havent covered the technical bits...
[06:19] <abattoir> I'll add them as soon as my exams get over :) 
[06:29] <jpatrick> Tonio_: hi
[06:30] <Tonio_> hey
[06:30] <jpatrick> Gnash works here
[06:30] <Tonio_> I have to prepare, I have my train in 2 hours....
[06:30] <Tonio_> jpatrick: the standard player or the mozilla component ?
[06:30] <jpatrick> Konqueror plugin
[06:30] <Tonio_> the standard player works nicelly for me
[06:30] <bddebian> Hello Tonio_
[06:30] <Tonio_> jpatrick: what revision did you take ?
[06:30] <Tonio_> bddebian: ;)
[06:31] <jpatrick> Tonio_: same as two days ago
[06:31] <Tonio_> jpatrick: hum, dunno what you could have hanged, but that's nice ;)
[06:31] <Tonio_> jpatrick: used cdbs ?
[06:31] <jpatrick> Tonio_: although I do have Riddell's problem
[06:31] <Tonio_> jpatrick: which is ?
[06:32] <jpatrick> uses 100% of CPU, brings system to near halt
[06:32] <Tonio_> jpatrick: ah...
[06:32] <Tonio_> jpatrick: could you send me your package ?
[06:32] <Tonio_> I'd like to compare
[06:32] <jpatrick> I haven't packaged
[06:32] <jpatrick> ...yet
[06:32] <Tonio_> maybe we have the same and it doesn't work here due to my config
[06:32] <Tonio_> jpatrick: ah ok you compiled...
[06:32] <Tonio_> that might explain the difference
[06:33] <jpatrick> I will do in a while
[06:33] <Tonio_> jpatrick: cause I did a very very basic package, since debian folder is given, I just used it
[06:33] <Tonio_> I should maybe try to make my own....
[06:34] <Tonio_> jpatrick: anyway, it isn't mature at the moment, but we need to look carefully for edgy I assume :)
[06:34] <jpatrick> yeah
[06:34] <Tonio_> let's wait 3 month and retry ;)
[06:35] <Lure> Riddell: aware of any hangs with today's ubiquity?
[06:36] <Tonio_> Lure: hey ;)
[06:36] <Lure> Tonio_: hi
[06:36] <Tonio_> Lure: I am supposed to meet timo tomorrow ;)
[06:37] <Lure> Tonio_: great
[06:38] <kmon> hi
[06:38] <kmon> Riddell: you forgot to remove kwifimanager now that dapper uses wlassist
[06:38] <kmon> :)
[06:39] <jpatrick> I think he's getting round to doing that
[06:39] <kmon> ah
[06:39] <kmon> ok
[06:39] <kmon> I was pointing it out just in case :)
[06:40] <kmon> hi jpatrick
[06:40] <jpatrick> hi kmon
[06:40] <Tonio_> I am just sad wlassistant doesn't manage wpa at all....
[06:41] <kmon> Tonio_: only knetworkmanager
[06:41] <Tonio_> let's hope we can use knetworkmanager by default with network-manager 0.7
[06:41] <Tonio_> kmon: the issue is if we use it as default, we need to ensure we have tcp/ip control
[06:41] <Tonio_> that will only be added with next major version
[06:41] <kmon> yes
[06:42] <kmon> is 0.7 that mayor version?
[06:42] <Tonio_> kmon: yup
[06:43] <kmon> any idea when it's planned to be released?
[06:43] <Tonio_> kmon: just we don't know if it'll be release before edgy or not, since the delay between dapper and edgy is short....
[06:43] <bddebian> You folks bugs are just too hard :-)
[06:43] <Tonio_> kmon: you know, it is free software, so "when ready" is the rule :)
[06:43] <kmon> Tonio_: yes. Except for gnome ;)
[06:43] <Tonio_> kmon: yes, gnome is an exception on that point
[06:44] <Tonio_> bddebian: yes, kde structure is a bit complex ;)
[06:44] <Tonio_> that is maybe the reason it is more buggy than gnome
[06:45] <Tonio_> that's the only thing I'm jalous with gnome
[06:45] <Tonio_> it is really stable
[06:46] <Tonio_> oh and compiz works on it too :)
[06:46] <Tonio_> bddebian: did you try aiglx + compiz ?
[06:46] <bddebian> no
[06:46] <Tonio_> some say it works very nicelly, and is much easier to install and implement than xgl
[06:46] <insanekane> hi ... has anyone ever faced an issue with a segfault in QShared::deref() ?
[06:46] <Tonio_> since it is just a little xorg module
[06:48] <kmon> tomorrow is kubuntu booth at linux tag
[06:48] <kmon> isn't it?
[06:48] <Tonio_> kmon: yes, the ubuntu day ;)
[06:49] <Tonio_> ok I have to prepare
[06:49] <Tonio_> have a nice week end all :)
[06:49] <kmon> are you doing a talk?
[06:49] <jpatrick> Tonio_: cya
[06:50] <Tonio_> kmon: yes, I will talk about the community
[06:50] <Tonio_> with raphink
[06:50] <kmon> Tonio_: good luck then :)
[06:50] <Tonio_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuLinuxTagMeetings?highlight=%28linuxtag%29
[06:51] <Tonio_> kmon: well I didn't have time to prepare it, so it'll be a bit short with raphink tomorrow ;)
[06:51] <kmon> hehe
[06:52] <Tonio_> talking after Mark and Riddell.... not an easy trick ;)
[06:52] <kmon> yes
[06:52] <kmon> hehe
[06:53] <Tonio_> kmon: pray for me plz ;)
[06:53] <Tonio_> kmon: will need that at least ;)
[06:54] <Tonio_> btw, have a nice WE everybody ^^
[06:54] <jpatrick> WE?
[06:54] <bddebian> Week End?
[06:54] <jpatrick> Oui
[06:55] <Tonio_> jpatrick: that's a good begining :)
[07:01] <kmon> bye
[07:03] <bddebian> Bye
[08:33] <poimen> sup!?
[08:33] <poimen> it is save to run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade from rc1? I will leave me at the current dev system?
[08:35] <jpatrick> yes
[08:36] <poimen> ok 30 min to go then in the 250mb download
[08:59] <mornfall> ha
[09:01] <bddebian> ack
[09:03] <insanekane> hi ... has anyone ever faced an issue with a segfault in QShared::deref() ?