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Hooblyis there a system properties applet that tells you about your version of Ubuntu, etc like in Windows Control Panel | System?12:02
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Phleagoruname -a12:07
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Hooblythx12:08
Phleagorbut it doesn't tell you the ubuntu-version12:08
Phleagoryou should know that12:09
Phleagor:)12:09
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LorenzodAARGH! Kaffeine is tearing at my sanity.12:25
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iNikuyeah, too much caffeine will do that to you.12:30
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LorenzodiNiku: ha, ha..12:40
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TheFuzzballhi, when I create a new app shortcut in Autostart it says: Could not save properties. You do not have sufficient access to write to /luke/.kde/Autostart/katapult.desktop., can I have some help with this please?01:00
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jmaHi, I am wondering if KDE and gnome are using fd.o menu standard?01:05
TheFuzzballyea well, I'm still waiting for my question to be annswered01:06
TheFuzzballanswered*01:06
crimsunjma: gnome is, not sure about kde, but I would presume so01:06
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crimsunTheFuzzball: /luke or /home/luke?01:07
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TheFuzzballcrabstic: ~/.kde/Autostart01:07
jmacrimsun, do you know where the applications.menu file is located? or how does gnome build up the menu tree?01:07
crimsunjma: /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu01:08
crimsunTheFuzzball: ~/.kde != /luke, though, assuming your user is 'luke'01:09
jmaahh, thanks a lot. It this the fd.o standard location?01:09
crimsunjma: you'll have to check the fd.o spec for that01:09
jmaok. thanks.01:09
TheFuzzballcrabstic: when I say ~ I mean /home/luke yes01:09
crimsun(I don't know offhand, and only half my brain is here, sorry)01:09
crimsunTheFuzzball: what are the permissions on ~/.kde/Autostart/katapult.desktop?01:10
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TheFuzzballcrabstic: this is really wrong, if I run konqueror and it comes up using the web browser profile and I go to ~/.kde/Autostart and add an app the Autostart it works, but when I run kfmclient openProfile filemngr 'home:/luke' then it gives me that same error01:12
TheFuzzballcrabstic: when using kfmclient openProfile filemngr 'home:/luke' when I right click and click Add app shortcut it says in permissions user: root group: root01:14
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_ubuntuNow i test LiveCD Kunbutu :)01:19
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fyrmedicHow do I change the name of the network that Samba shares on i.e. Workgroup to Mshome?01:32
bimberifyrmedic: /etc/samba/smb.conf - change the "workgroup =" setting01:44
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_ubuntusoo kubunto live dosnt support anything higher then a 1024X768?01:48
_ubuntuwell... the resolution01:48
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kubuntu_rocksi can't get my users and groups module to load in the system config?01:52
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pedroHello everyone01:55
pedroI have some problem with skype01:56
pedroa sound problem01:56
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_ubuntuis anyone in here that can help us?01:57
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HymnToLife!tell _ubuntu about fixres02:03
pedroWell02:03
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pedroI solved yet!02:03
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thevernatanyone having problems installing dapper beta 2 64bit?  It tells me I don't have a root, even though I assigned a /02:24
dark_lightwhat you mean by assign a / ? putting it on /etc/fstab ?02:26
thevernatno, when I do the partitions02:26
thevernatit has / /home swap02:26
dark_lighti am using dapper flight 5 64bits and yes i am with some problems, but i am too lazy to check out what problems i am actually have (gnome isn't working. but kde from kubuntu and xfce from xubuntu are both fine :)02:27
dark_lightthevernat: you are installing from a cd?02:27
thevernatyeah, it's on the live disc, there's an install option on the desktop02:27
dark_lightoh well i have never used it02:28
dark_lightbut i think you have to tell ubuntu what partition you want to install. right? you might have to format it too02:29
thevernatI did02:29
thevernatand if I try to install basic ubuntu, it kacks my system and nothing will boot02:30
thevernatit's really weird02:30
dark_lightoh man.. you really should report it on the.. the.. what is the bug tracking system of ubuntu?02:31
ParkotronLaunchpad02:32
BluesKaj_kubuntu isn't ready for primetime on AMD64 pc's...too msny graphics probs02:39
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OPPhi02:55
OPPwhat are the sys requierments for kubuntu02:56
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dark_lightOPP: maybe 256mb ram02:58
OPPwhat distro do you recommend for my laptop02:59
dark_lighti don't know exactly but i heard that kubuntu runs faster than other kde-based distros02:59
OPPp3 1ghz02:59
OPP256 ram02:59
dark_lightOPP: xubuntu i think02:59
dark_lightif you want performance02:59
OPPk02:59
dark_lightmy tip:install ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu in same distro and try them all02:59
OPPok03:00
OPPwhat about debian?03:00
dark_lightit's a good distro, but the sid is too broken and the stable is too old03:00
dark_lighttesting is both broken and old. :)03:00
OPPahh03:00
OPPill get this xubuntu03:01
OPPso whys it more effceint03:01
dark_lightOPP: i used debian testing when sarge was testing. debian is a really good distro, but ubuntu is simply a better debian on my opinion03:02
dark_lightOPP: xubuntu is faster because it uses xfce instead of kde (that kubuntu uses) and gnome (that plain ubuntu uses)03:02
OPPo03:02
OPPcool03:02
OPPbut the applications are the same03:02
dark_lightwell, the initial set of application are different, but you can install any application with the package manager03:03
OPPahh k03:03
dark_lightxubuntu can't be installed alone i think03:03
dark_lightyou have to install a base system from ubuntu or kubuntu and install the xubuntu-desktop package03:03
OPPo03:04
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OPPdo you think kubuntu will be fine03:04
OPPwithout xubuntu03:04
OPPi kinda like KDE03:04
dark_light(ubuntu comes with ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu with kubuntu-desktop. but if you choose do not install these -desktop, you remain with a base system to do whatever you want. and you can install all these packages if you want)03:04
dark_lightOPP: well, yes will be fine03:05
OPPo03:05
OPPthen i think ill just stick with that03:05
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dark_lightxfce is very different from kde. it's fast, but maybe you will not like to use it. (but you could simply try it and then uninstall)03:06
OPPwhy03:06
OPPis it ugly03:06
dark_lightwell, see it yourself03:06
dark_light*searching the xubuntu page*03:06
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dark_lightubotu: xubuntu?03:07
ubotusomebody said xubuntu was Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu03:07
dark_light:)03:07
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OPPicky03:09
OPPill stick with KDE03:09
OPPi mean do you think itll go at a reasonable rate03:09
OPPfor processing apps03:09
dark_lightOPP: it depends on wich kind of apps you will use03:10
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OPPumm03:11
OPPmainly for video03:11
OPPand music03:11
OPPmaybe firefox03:11
OPPVLC media player03:12
dark_lightwell on kubuntu konqueror is faster i think.. but i am not sure03:12
dark_lightOPP: i think you will not have problems with performance03:12
OPPok cool03:13
OPPi just bought this laptop on ebay :_D03:13
OPPit was 235 dollars lol03:13
OPPim going on this long road trip03:13
dark_lightwow!:P03:14
OPPya03:14
OPPim pretty pumped03:14
OPPibm03:14
dark_light(what is pumped? english isn't my first language..)03:15
OPPexcited03:15
OPPthrilled03:15
OPPecstatic03:15
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dark_lightuhahuahuahua03:16
dark_lightyeah03:16
OPPwhats your first language03:16
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dark_lightportuguese03:16
OPPo03:16
dark_lighti am from brazil:)03:16
OPPi speak spanish.. not portuguese03:16
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dark_lightyou are from wich country?03:16
OPPunited states03:16
OPPi just know some spanish from school03:16
dark_lighthm yeah:)03:17
dark_lighti learned english on school, but mainly talking over internet.. just like now :P03:17
OPPwhat media players come with kubuntu03:17
dark_lighti think amarok03:17
dark_lightyes, amarok03:18
OPPthat for music03:18
dark_lightwell, yes03:18
OPPand then is there a video player03:18
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dark_lightbut ubuntu and kubuntu don't comes with mp3 codecs, you have to install it yourself03:19
OPPahh03:19
dark_lighthmm03:19
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OPPapt-get install win32codecs?03:20
dark_lightw3203:20
dark_light:)03:20
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OPPhuh03:20
dark_lightOPP: it comes with kaffeine too03:20
dark_lighti think both amarok and kaffeine plays music and videos, i don't know the difference03:21
OPPahh03:21
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OPPwhered you get the codecs?03:22
dark_lightOPP: kaffeine is intended to play videos03:22
dark_lighti got it with apt03:23
OPPo03:23
dark_lightaptitude install name-of-the-packages03:23
OPPcool03:23
dark_lighti don't remember all03:23
dark_light(aptitude and apt-get does the same work)03:23
OPPmaybe ill get distro with all codec i need already in it03:23
dark_lightyou can install them with synaptic and other graphical package managers too03:24
dark_lightOPP: Hmmmm.. ubuntu is meant to be free software. mp3 is patented03:24
dark_lightthat's why mp3 codecs don't come with ubuntu03:24
OPPo03:24
OPPdo you know if they cope with any distro?03:25
dark_lightwhat is cope?03:25
dark_lightubotu: codecs?03:25
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories03:25
dark_light!easysource03:26
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:26
dark_lightubotu: media?03:26
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dark_light03:26
OPPcool03:26
OPPi meant03:26
OPPdo any distros COME with the codecs03:26
OPPalready on them03:26
dark_lightOPP: distros that don't bother on being totally free comes with codecs03:27
OPPo03:27
dark_lighti don't know many other distros, i used only a few distros03:27
dark_lightOPP: on breezy there are a easy-guide-to-install (a set of apt-get's), http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs03:29
dark_lighton dapper i think you will have to look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Media/Codecs and look for specific codecs :(03:29
OPPcool03:30
dark_lightps: well, the last page don't points to any package names03:30
OPPthats all i have to type in03:31
dark_light.. well, installing lame you will have mp3 codecs of course (lame is a mp3 encoder)03:31
OPPand then amarok and stuff will work fine03:31
OPPi dont need to like compile it03:32
dark_lightOPP: on breezy, yes03:32
dark_lighton dapper, not sure03:32
dark_lightno, you don't need to compile the codecs03:32
OPPwhat is breezy03:32
dark_lightbreezy is the current version of ubuntu (and kubuntu ..)03:32
dark_lightdapper will be released on june03:33
dark_light(i think)03:33
OPPo03:33
OPPcool03:33
dark_lightdapper currently is beta.. so i think you should not install it now, unless you want to try it and help the ubuntu team to develop it (sending bugs and that stuff)03:34
OPPya03:35
OPPon that site you gave me03:35
OPPit says03:35
OPPMP3 is supported03:35
OPPwhatever i get it\03:36
dark_lightyes mp3 is supported. it's on the main repository03:37
dark_lightmaybe it comes now with the cd03:37
dark_lighti am not sure03:37
dark_lighton breezy it don't comes with regular installation, but the ubuntu team supports it03:38
dark_lighton dapper i don't know if it comes with regular installation03:38
dark_lightOPP: the main repository is the main site you download things with apt-get/aptitude03:39
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OPPso03:39
OPPubuntu has codecs installed03:39
CheeseBurgerManHey, OPP. :P03:40
OPPwell hell CBM03:40
OPPi was looking for you03:40
dark_lightby default? on breezy, only free codecs by default (like ogg). on dapper, not sure03:40
OPPhello*03:40
CheeseBurgerManYeah, to get non-free codecs on Kubuntu you'll need to install win32 codecs03:40
CheeseBurgerManWhich, IIRC is 'sudo apt-get install win32codecs', but I'm not sure since it doesn't work on my amd64 system.03:41
dark_lighti think ogg is a better codec than mp3 (specially because it'1s free). that's why i converted all my mp3 to ogg with mp32ogg script :)03:41
CheeseBurgerManThat loses you quality :P03:41
CheeseBurgerManI personally use MP3 because it's more universal. :)03:41
dark_lightreally? oh well :P03:41
OPPtranscoding music files always loses you quality03:41
dark_lightCheeseBurgerMan: it works on amd64 fine!03:42
CheeseBurgerManReally? I read that they didn't. :o03:42
CheeseBurgerMan!restrictedformats03:42
ubotumethinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats03:42
dark_lightmaybe you have to force the installation of 32bits codecs03:42
CheeseBurgerManAh03:42
dark_lightHum..03:42
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CheeseBurgerManThat was for me -- I wanted the link. :P03:42
thom__that sucked03:42
thom__just went through total hell trying to get on the internet03:43
dark_lightCheeseBurgerMan: i don't remember the details, but the fact is that i am on a amd64 machine and mp3 works fine here (on both dapper and breezy)03:43
sistarI can't play DVD's our audio cd's! Anyone wanna chat about it?03:43
thom__me too03:43
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thom__me03:43
thom__one problem is all the cd players over ride each other03:44
CheeseBurgerManubotu: tell sistar about restrictedformats03:44
dark_lightOPP: look the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for see how install mp3 codecs on ubuntu/kubuntu03:44
thom__i cant play any of my cds, how are they restricted. I know dvds are?03:45
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dark_lighthere i can play regular audio cds....03:45
thom__i guess I can play mp3s though03:45
dark_lightbut i tried only on ubuntu.. with that default player. and it was on breezy. o.o03:45
brandon_how can i get konq to generate thumbnail previews of movies?03:45
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OPPthanks cbm03:47
thom__im using dapper though, thats my prblem03:47
OPPso its easy to install those codecs03:47
CheeseBurgerManthom__: Have you tried #ubuntu+103:47
CheeseBurgerManOPP: Yeah, just download a deb and install it.03:47
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thom__forgot where i was, sory03:47
CheeseBurgerManThat's fine. I just don't know. ;)03:48
thom__i started from xubuntu also03:48
thom__then installed kubuntu-desktop because I wanted some wireless gui after i changed locations03:49
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OPPi think ill use kubuntu then03:49
OPPaslong as its easy to install stuff03:49
CheeseBurgerManOPP: Good choice, although it's the same for any debian based distro. :P03:49
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OPPcool03:50
OPPCBM do you setup the sudo info during install?03:50
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CheeseBurgerManWell, sudo just lets you run things as root with your password. And since you setup your password during install, yes.03:50
OPPk03:51
OPPcool03:51
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sistarokay just had a look at the page on restricted formats, that's doesn't seem the prob I already have libdvdread3 happening03:53
sistarhowever03:53
OPPcbm do i just do that apt-get "whatevercodeciwant" and itll download it for me? and then i just open the program and walah03:54
sistarI've never been able to play dvd's... cd's play in kcd, but with no sound... but lately it's been worse03:54
CheeseBurgerManLook at the restricted formats page, OPP. There's a deb you have to download and manually install03:55
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OPPim sorry03:55
OPPwhat is03:55
OPPa deb03:55
CheeseBurgerManDebian package03:55
OPPo03:55
OPPok03:55
OPPi dont know how to compile :-D03:55
CheeseBurgerMan'sudo apt-get build-essential' (once), then use './configure && make && sudo make install'03:56
CheeseBurgerMan:P03:56
OPPcool03:56
sistarI've been getting the error The file or folder media:/scd0 does not exist.03:57
sistarwhich seems to suggest it's not mounting properly, but Kscd still pops up and starts playing tracks I can't hear, and kaffine says it can't load the dvd title info03:59
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sistarBy the way I'm using a firewire drive, since the dvd rom in my imac is stuffed!!04:00
dark_lightsistar: type mount without parameters and paste it on http://pastebin.com04:01
dark_lightand paste here the url04:01
dark_lightsistar: i need to know if /dev/scd0 is mounted (if it's really the file device of your dvd player)04:02
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sistaryep...04:03
sistarerm... mount without parameters hey??04:03
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OPPwhats that deb i need cbm04:06
sistarDark_light-->i've been so spoilt by fancy guis that I've forgoten how to do that04:06
OPPbefore i do the sudo apt-get w32codecs04:07
CheeseBurgerManOPP: You dont do that, I was wrong.04:08
CheeseBurgerManLet me try to find it.04:08
CheeseBurgerManftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb04:09
OPPwhat do i do with that04:09
CheeseBurgerManInstall it.04:09
OPPand ill have the codecs?04:09
CheeseBurgerMan'sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb'04:09
CheeseBurgerManYes04:09
OPPsweet04:09
OPPwhat codecs are included in that04:09
sistaranyone able to walk me through mounting without parameters04:10
CheeseBurgerManDunno, I haven't needed them. :P04:10
CheeseBurgerManI can play MP3 without it, and that's what I need. :)04:10
OPPwhat about divx04:10
CheeseBurgerManI don't know, haven't tried it.04:10
OPPwhat did you use for mp304:11
OPPso dont use this site04:11
OPPhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:11
OPPat all?04:11
CheeseBurgerManIt played once I installed the xine engine for amarok04:11
CheeseBurgerManGo ahead and use it, I just don't know what codecs you get with that.04:12
OPPahh04:12
OPPbut if i do use that04:12
OPPi need that package first04:12
OPPcorrect?04:12
CheeseBurgerManYes.04:12
sistardark_light--> I don't know how to mount it without parameters....Wouldn't I have to somehow avoid the drive mounting autoatically?04:13
OPPand all i do with that package is04:13
OPPtype in04:13
OPPsudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb04:13
CheeseBurgerManyes04:14
OPPdo i put it on my desktop04:14
CheeseBurgerManDoesn't matter04:14
CheeseBurgerManYou just have to have the console in the same dir as the deb04:14
OPPahh04:14
OPPok04:14
sistarI have the feeling i've been given up on :(04:14
CheeseBurgerMansistar: I don't know what to do, hence me not helping.04:15
sistarthanks CBM04:15
dark_lightsistar: oh, sorry04:16
dark_lightsimply type mount on terminal04:16
dark_lightfirst m, then o, then u, then n, then t.. and then hit return key04:16
dark_light:)04:17
CheeseBurgerManlol04:17
sistarso.. mount /dev/scd0  yeah?04:17
dark_lighti was just wondering if /dev/scd0 is alredy monted or not04:17
dark_lightmount without params shows it to you04:18
sistarI thought you had to create folders b4 hand and stuff... shows how long since I've done things in the command line!!04:18
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dark_lightbut you can try to mount it and, if there is no errors, it is begin to be mounted04:18
dark_lightit begins04:18
dark_lightall roads lead to command line04:19
dark_light:)04:19
OPPcbm04:22
OPPi dont think i need that deb04:23
CheeseBurgerManThen don't install it. :P04:23
OPPi think i can just do apt-get install w32codecs04:23
OPPand get the divx codec04:23
OPPwhats that deb supposed to do?04:23
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CheeseBurgerManOPP: Run 'sudo apt-cache search win32codecs'04:24
OPPk04:24
OPPi found what i need04:24
OPPnvm04:24
sistardark_light--> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only, but konqueror still doesn't think it exist... and I can't find it in the command line04:25
dark_lightsistar: hmmmm04:25
OPPcheck your pm cbm04:25
dark_lightsistar: i think you can access it on /media/scd0 instead of media:/scd004:25
dark_lightor /mnt/scd004:25
sistarI've checked out /mnt   /cdrom  /media04:25
dark_lightor type mount to see where it's mounted04:26
dark_lighthmmmmmmmm04:26
dark_lightsistar: try modify the configuration of kaffeine04:26
dark_lighthere it's configured to look /dev/hdc when playing dvd's04:26
sistarokay it's mounted to /media/cdrom104:27
dark_light(well, actually i don't use kaffeine. but you got the idea:)04:27
sistarwhy would konqueror be looking in scd0??04:27
dark_lightprobably media:/scd0 points to the place /dev/scd0 is mounted, that is, /media/cdrom104:28
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dark_lightbut it's not about configuring konqueror i think, it's about configuring you cd player to play things from the right device04:29
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OPPso04:29
OPPwho has put on the w32 codecs here?04:30
OPPi still dont know the easiest way to do it04:30
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rUiSuhi04:34
rUiSuumm, i have a problem with the network04:34
rUiSuin breezy04:34
rUiSupreviously on my other distro i used ndiwrapper and dhcpcd to activate the network04:34
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rUiSubut it seems kubuntu doesnt have the dhcpcd, righ?04:35
sistardark_light--> ok, there doesn't seem to be an option to configure where kaffeine plays dvd's from. and telling vlc to play from /media/cdrom1 does nothing04:35
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rUiSuhello?04:40
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bimberirUiSu: no, it doesn't install a dhcp server by default04:43
rUiSuook04:43
rUiSubecause i was searching in the advance package installer, and i could not fin dhcp04:43
rUiSumm04:43
rUiSuso, what sould i do?04:44
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rUiSuor is it on the universe?04:46
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bimberi!info dhcp3-server04:46
ubotudhcp3-server: (DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.2-1ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 505 kB, Installed size: 1064 kB04:46
bimberirUiSu: there it is ^^^^^04:46
rUiSumm04:47
rUiSui just saw a forum coment that a guy removed the dhcp3 and dhcpclient and installed dhcpcd from the unvierse and worked....04:47
rUiSumm04:47
rUiSuso, ill try04:48
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rUiSuok04:48
rUiSuthanks everyone04:48
rUiSu:)04:48
bimberirUiSu: ymmv, it should work, it is in the main repository so has support from the core devs04:48
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TsedHmm.  Wondering if anyone could give me a hand here... using the Dapper Beta, trying to get the audiocd kioslave (and thus, kaudiocreator) to work.04:56
TsedWhen I access audiocd:/ with my user, I get a list of the folders (ogg, flac, etc), but they're empty.  Running konq through kdesu brings up the proper listing, so it's obviously a permissions issue...04:57
TsedJust not sure *what* permissions. :)04:57
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NeoChaosXknetworkmanager's in main. wonder if it'll be included on a default install05:22
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dark_lightsistar: sorry, i read it only now. well you could tell vlc to play from /dev/scd005:25
dark_lightsistar: the cd player reads the raw data from cd instead of read any wrapper that mount could make05:26
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ruisuhello05:34
ruisuim currently running kubuntu on a wireless machine :D05:34
OPPhello05:40
OPPis it easy to download codecs05:40
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robotgeekOPP, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:40
OPPya i looked at that05:41
OPPis it true theres some deb filei  need05:41
OPPor can i get around that05:41
robotgeekOPP: check pm :)05:43
OPPcool05:44
OPPdoes that mean windows32 codecs do inclue divx05:44
OPPor only include like wma05:44
OPPand wmv05:44
thoreauputicw32codecs include a bunch of stuff - just install them05:45
OPPok05:46
OPPseems easy enough05:46
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OPPdoes kubuntu come with mplayer05:50
SeantaterOPP: not to my knowledge05:50
SeantaterOPP: try xine instead05:50
OPPk05:50
OPPcan that play most codecs?05:50
SeantaterOPP: if you have problems with formats, enable multiverse and install libxine-extracodecs05:50
SeantaterOPP: not most05:50
SeantaterOPP: unless you install that library05:51
SeantaterOPP: because many are proprietary05:51
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SeantaterOPP: but with that library, it plays just about everything05:51
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coreywhoops05:52
OPPo05:52
Seantatercorey: hello -- again05:52
coreylol05:52
coreyanyone here use kbear?05:52
OPPi thought win32 was the one i should go05:52
OPPget*05:52
Seantatercorey: isn;t that an ftp client?05:52
coreyyea05:52
Seantatercorey: ftp clients for kde are unnecessary05:52
Seantatercorey: konqueror has that built-in05:53
coreyi dont use kde :P05:53
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Seantatercorey: then go ahead and use kbear -- but all ftp clients pale in comparison to KIO-ftp05:53
coreyis that gui?05:54
Seantatercorey: nope -- it's a library that is built into all kde programs that access the internet05:54
coreyeh05:54
Seantatercorey: how it looks is the program's decision05:54
Seantatercorey: it works really well05:55
coreyoh well05:55
Seantatercorey: but since you're not a kde user - -I won;t push ya -- so how does kbear work anyway?05:55
coreykbear works im just having an issue or two05:55
coreyi actually like it i cant figure a thing or two out05:55
Seantatercorey: what issues?05:55
coreywell05:56
coreyit has single click to open the file05:56
Seantaterokay --05:56
Seantaterand --05:56
coreytrying to figure out how to set it as double click05:56
Seantaterthat's really not that big a deal -- anything big?05:56
coreyhrm05:56
coreyi cant figure out how to download/upload haha05:56
OPPis it easy to install codecs05:56
OPPlike does it work05:57
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OPPand easy to do05:57
SeantaterOPP: yes, really easy05:57
Seantatercorey: hum -- read the manual?05:57
OPPk05:57
OPPill do it05:57
OPPill install kubuntu on my laptop05:57
coreyi would05:57
coreybut their site is down ;/05:57
SeantaterOPP: no -- I mean kbear's manual05:58
SeantaterOPP: sorry -- did not mean you05:58
SeantaterOPP: sry05:58
Seantatercorey: no -- I mean kbear's manual05:58
coreyyes05:58
coreyits on their web site05:58
coreyand its down05:59
Seantatercorey: no -- no  -- most kde apps come with a manual in the help menu -- it's part of the documentation you downloaded you installed it05:59
coreynope05:59
Seantatercorey: no manual05:59
Seantatercorey: googled it? I'm not much past here -- never used it..06:00
coreytheir sites down!06:00
corey:P06:00
Seantatercorey: c'mon -- Google's not doen -- read a copy somewhere else, read google's cache -- etc06:00
Seantatercorey: sorry for being short06:03
Seantatercorey: I just don;t know much on this topic06:03
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coreylol06:04
coreyi dont think i like this kbear06:04
coreyits setup good but the execution isnt vry good06:04
coreymaybe i should install kubuntu desktop?06:04
macdcorey, what windowmanager are you using?06:04
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OPPwhats the best video playe06:05
OPPvlc06:05
OPPor06:05
OPPmplayer06:05
macdI prefer mplayer06:05
coreyim using ubuntu w/ gnome06:05
macdtry gftp06:05
macdits in universe repos06:07
coreyi did06:07
coreyi dont like it06:07
macdhow much easier do you need?06:07
coreylol06:07
macdor what features are you looking for>06:07
coreywhen your uploading/downloading/editing a lot gftp is a pain06:07
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coreyi like the feautr on kbear when i can edit the file on the server..but i cant figure out how to download files for the life of me06:07
macdwell, if your editing uploading/downloading often you might want to consider learning a lil shell scripting, or maybee some perl to automate the process06:07
coreynah its not that its just gftp is a pain in continulously uploading - its not very customizable06:08
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hybridrue06:15
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coreywhere is the ftp client in konqueror?06:46
robotgeekcorey: konqueror06:46
corey?06:46
robotgeekcorey: konqueror is an excellent ftp/sftp client06:47
robotgeekcorey: type ftp://ftp.example.com in konq06:47
coreybleh06:49
coreyid like a standalone ft client06:49
robotgeekwell, kbear is one. i just use konqueror, it works well for me :)06:50
coreyi liked kbear except i couldnt figure out how to download files :-/06:51
robotgeekwith konq, you just drag and drop :)06:52
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coreytrue- but thats about it06:53
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Lynourerobotgeek: my konqueror starts automatically playing .avi files if I click on them, so is copy-paste then the only way to sftp those files?07:02
robotgeekLynoure: yeah, i think copy paste is the way to go :)07:04
Lynourerobotgeek: ok, thank.07:05
LynoureI'm new to kde so I'm sometimes a bit puzzled by it, but so far quite happy with it07:06
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robotgeekLynoure: i learn something new about KDE everyday :)07:06
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_patrickPretty new to Kubuntu. I'm finding it interesting trying to install programs.08:12
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_patrickIs the debian files the easiest to install?08:13
propagandhi_patrick: matter of opinion08:14
_patrickWell, I'm thought debian files were more self installing?08:14
propagandhistill, matter of opinion, RPM's are also 'self-installing' so to speak, the APT system is probably the best package management system as a whole08:15
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_patrickAPT. How do I go about using that. Ark tries to take over on minge.08:16
propagandhiso you're not using kubuntu08:16
toomaigood morning all08:16
_patrickYes, I am using Kubuntu, but Ark does pop up. I use terminal when I can. But, I'd like a simpler format.08:17
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_patrickDoes APT come with Kubuntu, or do I need to download it?08:19
scheuriapt is included08:19
_patrickOK. So  APT being used to extract RPM's can be easier than the debian files I've been working with?08:20
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_patrickOK guys I got to go. I'll have more time tomorrow. Thanks.08:23
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jackyei have two network cards in my linux pc one connected to my hub and the other to my modem i want my dads windows pc to have internet but not sure the dns i need to put in09:05
jackyemy friend put the numbers in his windows computer before and i dont know which to put in09:05
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propagandhijackye: put in the address of the router09:10
jackyei dont know what it is09:11
propagandhiwell, whats the ip address of ur modem/router09:11
jackyemy ip09:11
propagandhiit could be something like 192.168.0.1 or 10.0.0.1 or similar09:11
jackyehow can i find out?09:11
propagandhidoes ur network run dhcp, or does ur router at least09:12
dell500can you have multiple instances of kaffiene with xine?09:12
jackyeno09:13
jackyeit does not09:13
propagandhiwell, are u assigning ur ip adresses statically then09:13
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jackyei dont know09:14
propagandhiok, so it must be dhcp09:14
jackyei am using rc.firewall09:14
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propagandhitype ifconfig09:14
jackyeye i did though09:14
propagandhiwhat is ur ip address09:14
jackyezsh: command not found: ifconfig09:14
propagandhijackye: type in route09:15
jackyeok i did ifconfig in root and it worked09:15
propagandhiwhat does the command 'route' show for the 'default' entry09:16
jackyecould this be the dns 172.16.173.009:16
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propagandhido that 'route' command09:17
propagandhiand tell me what it says for 'default'09:17
jackyehttp://pastebin.com/69954609:17
cymeanybody who can help me update the kernel09:17
propagandhijackye: are u running linux under vmware09:18
jackyepropagandhi: no09:18
jackyepropagandhi: i do have vmware installed with windows though09:18
propagandhijackye: are u near the windows box09:19
jackyeyes it is in the other room09:19
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propagandhigo to the command on the windows box and type ipconfig /all09:19
jackyedad is sleeping though09:19
propagandhiok, well that wont work then will it09:19
jackyewant me to do it in vmware?09:20
jackyeclear09:21
propagandhijackye: ur intention is to use ur linux box as a gateway/firewall right?09:21
jackyeyes it already is09:22
jackyei lost the numbers that were in my dads windows box09:22
jackyeand it has been so long09:22
propagandhiok, so in that case, you can set ur dads machine to use ur ip address as his dns server, and it will query ur pc for DNS09:22
jackyeyes yes yes09:23
jackyei just need to find the dns09:23
propagandhibut ur pc has working dns right?09:23
jackyeyes09:23
propagandhiso just point ur dads primary dns to ur machine09:23
jackyeyou think this is the # 172.16.173.0?09:24
jackyefor my dns09:24
jackyemy dad is to stupid to run linux09:24
propagandhino i dont think so09:24
propagandhihe doesnt need to run linux09:24
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propagandhiall I'm saying is to point his dns at ur machine09:24
jackyeyah i'm just saying09:24
propagandhiand ur machine will handle the request09:24
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jackyeright09:25
jackyeu know in windows there is like 5 places to put numbers09:25
jackyewell the last 2 i don't know what to put anymore09:25
jackyei'm thinkin it might be 172.16.173.009:25
propagandhijackye: i dont think so09:25
propagandhijackye: in fact I can verify it isn't09:26
jackyepropagandhi: how do you think i can get the number then?09:26
jackyealright09:26
jackyeno need to verify09:26
propagandhijackye: why dont u just try what I've suggested09:26
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jackyeyes, but i need to know my primary dns09:27
jackyei know i'm not the sharpest knife in the toolbox09:28
jackyesf seems to be back up09:28
jackyethat going down is every man on linuxs worst nightmare09:28
jackyehaha09:28
propagandhijackye: if ur linux gateway is working fine with dns, all u need to do is set ur dads machine to look to urs for dns, that should work09:29
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jackyei'm trying to set it up on vmware for test, and its not working man09:32
jackyei still don't understand what i put for dns settings09:32
cymehow can i update the kernel09:36
cymeiam newbie at this so09:36
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jackeyehey buddy i'm back sorry09:42
jackeyeso anyway i really don't get it, what to put in under dns settings09:42
jackeyewhere do i find the numbers09:42
jackeyeon my kabuntu box09:43
jackeye*kubuntu*09:43
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cymehow can i update the kernel09:47
jackeyeits pretty hard09:52
jackeyei've been running linux for some years stilll haven't came close tto figuring it out09:52
scheurijackeye...are you connected to a router or modem or in a lan?09:53
jackeyerouter09:54
scheuricyme...updates are available with synaptic or the command line09:54
scheurijackeye...so, your PC and the router in the network, right?09:54
jackeyeyes!09:54
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scheurijackeye...your router is NOT configured to give your PC an IP adresse?09:55
jackeyeno no no09:55
jackeyemy linux is up and fine09:55
scheuricyme...you usually dont get a new kernel WITHIN a realese (such as 5.10 or 6.06)09:55
scheuriah..09:55
jackeyejust need to put in my dns on my dads windows09:55
jackeyeand don't know the numbers to put at the bottom, forgot them09:56
scheuriahhhhh09:56
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scheuriwell, either you check the homepage of your provider (they list them somehwere) or you make a nslookup at your linux box and write down the server that reponse09:56
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jackeyewoah i have dns on my computer setup on here09:59
jackeyehow do i do the ns look up?09:59
jackeyei don't think i need the ns? name server?09:59
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scheurijackeye...you have a DNS running on your linux box?10:01
scheurins=nameserver...dns is a domain name server...it is what you need10:01
jackeyeyes10:02
jackeyeyes, i need domain name server10:02
scheuriis the first yes the answer to the question "you have a dns running on your linux box")10:03
jackeyeyes10:07
scheuriwell, okay...last question...is your dads pc connected to YOUR linux box or to the router (either direct or through hub or switch)?10:09
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jackeyescheuri: its going right into the hub with the network cable10:10
scheurijackeye...and then from the hub to the router, yes?10:10
roniezthen he needs the ip of the router...10:10
roniezas a dns server.10:10
scheurinot quite...the router is the GATEWAY...but the dns are from the ISP itself10:11
roniezyea, but for the "local" network to function he needs to set the dns ip to the router.10:11
cymescheuri: but i need help with the one i have downloaded10:11
cymethe kernel10:11
jackeyeits already set i just need to know how to get it!10:11
roniezjackeye: what do u mean "how to" get it?10:11
scheuricyme...oh, I see...well, sorry...can't help you there...10:12
roniezjust check inside ur router.10:12
jackeyeok with what command? my linux is the router10:12
scheuriahhhh..10:12
scheuriessential information...:)10:12
cymeit start to bugging me that i bought transgamingaccount and every game is freezeing every 10second10:13
jackeyecyme: thats why its so cheap10:13
cymetrue :D10:14
cymewhat dist is recomended for cedega10:15
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jackeyewell i have my linux with 2 network cards 1 connected to the modem 1 conected to the hub and from the hub to my dads computer10:18
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scheurijackeye...then your linux box DNS need to be a fordwarder...and your dads gateway is the ip of your linux box and dads dns is the ip of your linux box as well...10:21
roniezthe IP of ur computer is your dads DNS server he should put in.10:22
jackeyeno my dad has a dell10:22
roniezand he should also put ur IP within the "default" gateway.-10:22
jackeyej/k10:22
jackeyeyah, i know how to fill in the first three10:22
roniezyour dad is gonna connect thru ur computer right?10:22
jackeyebut its the dns settings10:22
jackeyeYes..10:22
roniezyea, put ur computers ip on ur dads computer as a dns server.10:23
jackeyek10:23
jackeyei don't recall doing that b4, when i had it filled out, but old age is coming on me10:23
roniezand if ur computer is setup correct, he should be able to connect now.10:23
jackeyelol....if i don't get this working i'll probably be thrown out10:23
jackeyeonly thing  keeping me here, is keeping his computer online10:24
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roniezhahah10:24
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roniezcan anybody tell me how to forward x11?10:26
roniezto a windows computer, with out using cygwin.. i hate cygwin.10:26
scheurironiez...for working like vnc? i recommend freeNX10:27
roniezok.10:27
roniezcan u tell me a little about it?10:27
scheurifreeNX is fast and encrypted (if configured), there is a good how-to in the ubuntu-wiki10:28
scheuriyou need to install a client on windows...10:28
scheuriand the server on the...well...server...;)...the machine you like to work on10:28
scheuri(worksonly on linux though)10:28
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scheurihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX10:30
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jackeyeanyone ever used open paste on there website b4?10:30
belphi folks. have a quick question about Adept10:30
belpjust installed dapper beta 2 and adept has 100+ updates available.10:31
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scheuribelp...aye...it is beta...they are really working on it10:31
belpshould i just be picking and choosing or download the whole lot?  i don't want to break anything.10:31
scheuribelp...then download all of it10:31
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scheuribelp...it downloads and updates only stuff yo have already installet10:31
scheuriinstalled10:31
belpyeah, that i noticed.  just upgrades really.10:32
scheurimake sure you make a "dist-upgrade" instead of an "upgrade" alone10:32
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belpaye, got that. thanks!10:32
KabalHow can I disable Bluetooth from starting?? (kubuntu 5.10)10:32
scheurinp10:32
jackeyescheuri: that didn't work....i really don't know what to put under dns info10:33
jackeyei tried 192.168.0.110:33
jackeyeno luck10:33
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scheurijackeye...well...your dads pc is connected through your linux box (second network card)...this is a seperate network....you need to configured it10:34
scheurijackeye: ...IP fordwarding at your box, dns-request forwarding, your box and the router are one network and your box and dads box is a network10:34
scheuriaarrr....can't spell anyore10:35
jackeyescheuri: ok yes, but what command do i type to get the dns10:35
scheurisee....there is an m missing10:35
scheuri;)10:35
jackeyethe dns server addresses10:35
scheurijackeye...command? on your linux box?10:35
jackeyeyes10:35
scheurijackeye...is your dns on your box configured and running?10:35
jackeyeyes10:36
jackeyei assume so10:37
jackeyeit worked b4 i directly set him up to the modem the other day, and took out the numbers10:37
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scheuriwell, now your box is the router...you need to configure your box like a router...that is not that simple10:37
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scheuridads pc -> your box -> modem10:38
jackeyeman o man10:38
jackeyea long time ago, i got dns running, what kinda command can i type to find it?10:39
jackeyethe number like 255.255.0.110:39
jackeyeor something along them lines10:39
jackeyemy box is configured its done been working b410:39
KabalCan anybody explain to me how to disable bluetooth from starting up? (Kubuntu 5.10)10:39
macdKabal: in Kcontrol, KDE Services10:41
macdKDE Componets, sorry10:42
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Kabalmacd:  I see.. but no bluetooth yet..10:43
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Kabalmacd: does bluetooth appear in Load-on-Demand services or startup services?10:45
macdon my system, startup.10:47
macdlaptop w/bluetooth built-in for reference10:47
Kabalhmm oke well it's not there.. so can't change anything there..10:48
Kabalthanx anyway :)10:48
macdI assume youve tried the forums?10:48
Kabalyes10:48
Kabalbut I've got a problem that is solved half I guess...10:48
jackeye# Generated by dhcpcd for interface eth010:49
jackeyesearch gwi.net10:49
jackeyenameserver 207.5.171.110:49
jackeyenameserver 207.5.128.910:49
jackeyei found it on google, it was in resolv.conf10:49
jackeyegod damn, why did we have to make it that complicated :(10:49
macdwhat about in system settings -> bluetooth, then highlight and disable the service ..10:49
Kabalcan I comment bluetooth out at /etc/modprobe.d/aliases ?10:50
jackeyewhy do people on linux have to make things so complicated?10:50
jackeye ;/10:50
belp:O it's getting better10:51
macdkabal, Im not sure, but you could rename the module in the lib kernel module tree then depmod -a , then on next boot it would be disabled10:51
belpi mean before only hardcore nerds needed to apply to most any linux distro10:51
Kabalmacd: oke thanx I will try that :)10:52
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KabalAnyone happend to know how to disable touchpad in a easy way on a laptop?11:14
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mottzanyone got time for a question? (other than this one)11:19
Kabaljust ask mottz :)11:21
mottzok, I changed root passwd by booting to single user mode. Now adept only runs in read-only .11:24
roniezcrap, i am trying to install a program on windows, and i get a freaking access violation... :(11:26
mottzI have tried sudo adept aswell as running it from term su and nothing will run it as root.11:26
mottzdoes kde or adept store root passwd in a different location?11:28
KabalThat I don't know.. but is your root account active?11:29
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mottzyes, I can su sucessfully11:31
roniez_damm... this freeNX is great.11:31
Kabaland did you try it from KDE?11:31
Kabalpacketmanager for example11:31
mottzyes at adept start up it requires "root" paswswd (or I think its the root passwd) give no incorrect passwd error but11:32
mottzshows error "opening in read-only mode"...11:32
mottzyeah run as root  at adept start up11:33
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Kabalhmm11:34
mottzso im thinking it is not auth properly and thus going to read only.11:34
KabalI run adept as user.. not as root11:35
KabalI've got no pass for root.. root is disabled here..11:35
mottzmaybe I enabled root by creating a passwd after the install11:36
Kabalcould be :)11:36
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mottzwell I disabled root using "sudo passwd -l root"11:40
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mottznow adept hangs on start11:41
mottzmaybe a reboot11:41
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mottzalright11:45
Kabalhmm and?11:45
mottzthanks for your help11:45
Kabaldid the restart did the trick?11:45
Kabal:)11:45
mottzif I exicute adept from cli sudo it works11:45
Kabalgreat :)11:46
Kabaland also from packetmanager in kde?11:46
mottznope11:46
mottzIt is asking for run-as root passwd still11:46
Kabalyes11:46
mottzdo you know how to change it11:46
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Kabalthat's the pass when you login to kde11:46
Kabaltry the kde login pas.. does that work?11:47
mottzan admin usr pw right? not actually root?11:47
Kabalyes11:47
mottznope11:47
Kabalhmm11:47
roniezunless he changed the config for sudo.. to use root pass.11:47
Kabaldunno.. :)11:47
mottzI changed root passwd by loging in single user and running cmd passwd. thats it11:48
mottzwould that change sudo conf?11:48
Chousukeno11:48
Chousukeyou know, the easiest way to enable root is to run "sudo passwd"11:48
roniezhm.. why the hell did u do that?11:48
Chousukeno need for reboots :P11:48
roniezexactly.11:48
roniezi was gonna say that Chousuke11:48
Kabalhehe11:48
mottzI did not know that untill more resently than I did the former11:49
roniezbah, being stoned makes me slow. :)11:49
mottztos'e11:49
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roniezis it possible to switch between different "desktops" like i want to use kubuntu and i also want to use the gnome desktop... some times..12:19
roniezdo i need to install  a hole ubuntu?12:19
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BluesKaj_Howdy12:32
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DapperDrakeis there a way to start a programme in a certain desktop?12:33
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Sputnik_NLThanks to all the Kubuntu developers, a big progression is make for 6.06!12:34
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Sputnik_NLthough I'm wondering, when does the new version of Adept come out?12:36
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Sputnik_NLPlease, nobody has information about the progress of Adept?12:42
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_szamanugreets ppl12:44
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inc|freakyhi all. how can i get rid of the arrows in kicker of for example the k-menu (pointing up, indicating its a menu or there are entries if you click on the symbol) i know, that k-menu opens a menu i dont want it to show that to me with that arrow pointing up because it looks ugly ... is that possible? (sry 4 my bad english ;));))12:53
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hrubihi, can anyone help me?: I just installed kubuntu on friends desktop and ended up with X messed up (due to missing ati-drivers i think) and without root password. What did I wrong?12:54
DapperDrakeis there a way to start a programme in a certain desktop?12:55
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bhnahrubi: !root12:58
bhna!root12:58
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.12:58
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inc|freakyhrubi: try setting a root password - the root password is usually the same as the users password01:02
inc|freakyhrubi: but u only use sudo (by default) on kubuntu01:03
inc|freakyhrubi: if you really want a root login do sudo passwd01:03
inc|freakyand type in the actual users password01:03
hrubithanks01:03
inc|freakyand then set a rootpass01:03
inc|freakyhrubi: for the ati drivers ...01:03
inc|freakyhrubi: there is a nice tutorial somewhere ... do you have a internet connection with webbrowser available?01:04
hrubii have found it now on wiki :) thanks, it shoulg go well from now on...01:04
inc|freakyawkay, gl ;D01:04
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sander_http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=24626 -> I'm trying to download a SuperKaramba .skz file here, but Konqueror opens it in Kate, and when I save it in Kate it is corrupted, when I close Kate the file is lost, how can I fix this behavior of Konqueror?01:13
inc|freakytry rightclick --> save as ?01:13
sander_it's an indirect download link, so I can't use "Save As...", how can I make Konqueror just download it instead of opening it in Kate01:14
sander_i.e. the download link points to download.php01:14
sander_and not to the file directly01:14
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Kabaluse opera :)01:15
sander_I know I could try another browser, but Konqueror is a native KDe app even though it has it's issues01:15
jarleany application that can be running on my kde-panel and automatically inform me of updates?01:15
Kabalin Opera go to tranfer manager en paste url in Quickdownload01:15
sander_I've already tried looking in the settings for file associations, but I can't find Kate associated for .skz files anywhere01:16
sander_I'd prefer to use Konqueror instead of downloading Opera for just downloading a file, isn't there some way to fix this?01:16
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F_for_Fraggingis there no one who can help me with my Konqueror problem?01:19
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F_for_Fraggingjarle: I'm running the Dapper Drake beta, which already has an application called adept-updater installed by default for update notifications01:21
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MotxoHi!01:23
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Motxothere is some Spanish?01:24
Motxogo all to take by ass01:25
F_for_FraggingMotxo: http://kubuntu.org/support.php -> here you can find some links for Spanish support -> #kubuntu-es01:26
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roniez_hm01:32
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froudneed a memory jogger. Can anyone remind me how to switch from GDM to KDM :-)01:42
roniez_hehe i was just about to do that my self..01:43
roniez_ask that that i is.01:43
joedocfroud: do you have kde installed01:45
joedoc?01:45
bimberifroud: is kdm installed?01:45
froudI did aptget insall kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu system01:45
froudkde is there01:45
froudit loads01:45
bimberifroud: kk01:46
froudbut seems to use GDM01:46
joedocthe script to ruin the windo manager is an init script01:46
bimberifroud: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm01:46
joedocstand by a sec...01:46
froudyah bigo01:46
froudbimberi: dats d one01:46
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bimberifroud: np :)01:46
joedocfroud: under /etc/rc2.d, I have an init script called "kdm" that runs the window manager. My guess is that there's one in yours called "gdm"01:47
joedocyou should be able to just delete the gdm script and replace it with a link to the kdm script01:48
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froudjoedoc: also kewl01:48
froudthanks01:48
joedocthe script inder rc2.d is a soft link to the actual file un /etc/init.d01:49
joedocso go to /etc/rc2.d, rm S21gdm (or whatever it's called), then ln -s /etc/init.d/kdm /etc/rc2.d/S21kdm01:50
joedocI'm assuming that you're running in runlevel 201:51
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jarleF_for_Fragging: How do you start it automatically when you login to KDE (as it needs to be run as root)02:51
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tl``greetings.  i'm attempting to get mp3 support to work in kubuntu.  however, the package gstreamer0.8-mad doesn't exist :(03:04
Hobbsee!mp303:05
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped03:05
ubotuwell, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:05
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tl``oh, wow, i missed a crucial part of that page03:05
tl``thanks :p03:05
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truthseekhi03:12
truthseek1 question03:12
truthseekI've installed quake3 in /home/myuser/quake303:12
truthseekchowned to me all the files and chmoded them with 77703:12
truthseekwhen I use "sudo quake3" everything goes k03:12
truthseekbut when I just launch it, the executable can't write or modify some files in the directory03:13
truthseekany hints? or maybe a way to create a script that automatically uses sudo?03:13
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_deviant_your a weird one.. what does 'ls -l /home/myuser/quake3' gives?03:18
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phasegencan anyone instruct this noob on how to remove the trash folder and all it's contents from an external hd in one harsh and old-testament-like command?  I'm trying to back my system up for an internal hd transplant.03:21
XVampireXn00b03:22
phasegenyes I am03:22
XVampireXme too03:22
XVampireXWhen everyone realises they don't know anything, only then, do they know something.03:22
phasegenthe first step towards enlightenment, (not the desktop environment)03:23
XVampireXYeah03:23
phasegenso I've taken the first step...  SOMEONE ENLIGHTEN ME!03:24
XVampireXUhm03:25
truthseekdeviant: fixed it :-)03:25
XVampireXI'll try to find in google03:25
truthseekhidden dir .q3a.. with old permission03:25
truthseekand root owner03:25
truthseekI've chowned and chmoded it right now03:26
truthseekcool :-)03:26
XVampireXBut what do you mean by remove the trash folder?03:26
XVampireXCan't you just remove the trash applet?03:27
phasegenthe trash folder has many subfolders in it, and won't let me delete it03:28
XVampireXsudo remove (path to trash) ?03:28
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XVampireXdon't know what is the command to remove03:29
XVampireXbut you need to remove it using sudo03:29
phasegenit tells me the folders have stuff in them and i can't03:29
XVampireXas in, root.03:29
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XVampireXDon't know why he left03:29
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iNikufoo03:30
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rushi all04:08
rushaving trouble with keyboard layouts04:09
rusOption"XkbLayout""us,ru(winkeys)"04:11
rusOption"XkbVariant""nodeadkeys"04:11
rusOption"XkbOptions""grp:alt_shift_toggle"04:11
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rusheres a piece of my xorg.conf04:11
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rusdoesnt respond anymore04:11
rusit did04:12
rusbefore04:12
rusmaybe something i installed04:12
rusany ideas?04:12
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mhterrestry to configure your X using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:15
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roniezwho ever suggested freeNX to me, thx i love it.04:24
DaSkreech:-)04:25
DaSkreechWhats the diff between ddrescue and gddrescue?04:25
roniezi have no idea...04:25
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HymnToLifeI would guess ddrescue is the app itself and gddrescue is a GTK+ GUI for it04:26
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DaSkreechDoesn't seem so it has  no gui components04:29
roniezwy isnt my copy in aterm work?04:30
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grandahi! how do i get libstdc++.so.2.8?04:37
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Hooblyis there a client similar to Outlook for connecting to an Exchange server?04:41
v3ctorevolution04:41
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grandaare you using evolution?04:51
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v3ctori have used it in the past04:52
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v3ctorone of my coworkers uses it here to connect to exchange server04:52
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grandawhat are you using now? i am totally unhappy with sylpheed. mainly because it is so slow04:53
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v3ctori use kmail04:54
Lorenzodgranda: hm.. sylpheed used to be really fast..04:55
LorenzodBut of course, that was a few years ago, haven't tried it since.04:56
grandai don't know. when i open a huge folder, i want to see the mails immediately. and i want to open them withuout lags of a second or ywo04:56
Lorenzodgranda: hm.. depending on how you define *huge* that may not be possible at all..04:56
grandaand when it checks mails (also slowly), i can't do almost anything.04:57
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LorenzodHave you ever given mutt a go?04:58
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grandai used the bat, that was fast. there were no delays at all. and: if i start the bat under wine, it is also very much faster tahn sylpheed or thunderbird.04:58
grandai need a gui for my mails...04:59
leohallo04:59
grandai really thought about using the bat under wine, but it's too unstable04:59
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DaSkreechGood grief Kopete is annoying05:00
LorenzodDaSkreech: true, true, but then again Gaim 1.x is even worse.05:00
DaSkreechWell... no05:01
DaSkreechHmm05:01
DaSkreechI guess I could apt-get install gaim05:01
LorenzodI would compile Gaim 2.0 instead.05:01
LorenzodIt's far better.05:01
DaSkreechGood point05:01
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LorenzodGaim 1.x with all it's pop up dialogs constitutes application spam IYAM.05:02
DaSkreech?? Ok I've never had a pop up after I turned off guifications05:02
DaSkreechand I had to install that in the first place05:03
DaSkreechPlus at least that's granular05:03
LorenzodWell, maybe you have a stable link..05:03
DaSkreechthe  popups in kopete are just on or off05:03
DaSkreechWhich is quite annoying05:03
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DaSkreechI get popups everytime someone says something in IRC, leaves the room, joins the room or picks their nose05:04
DaSkreechWhen all I really wnat is a notification when someone says my name05:04
DaSkreechPLus Kopete crashes at a moments notice :-(05:04
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DaSkreech Has anyone tried the one button upgrade in Dapper? :) I just want to know how it works05:06
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grandawhat are you using for chm files?05:19
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nagyvHello! I am preparing myself for a presentation, and I would like to ask you about the usafe of two screens. Is it enough if I set it up under System Settings or do I need a specific hardware too?05:22
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russame shoot05:26
rusdpkg-reconfigure xorg05:26
rusdidnt work05:26
DaSkreechno dash tween  dpkg and reconfigure05:26
ruskeyboard layout switching doesnt work05:27
rusit works with the dash05:27
rusdpkg-reconfigure05:27
DaSkreechok :-)05:27
rusi reconfigured the xserver05:28
rusbut still cant switch keyboard layouts05:28
rushelp required05:28
ruscould there be some package overriding the layout function05:29
rus?05:29
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rusi tried to enable the kde keyboard layout function05:32
rusbut it gives an error05:32
DaSkreechWhere is the kde keyboard layout?05:33
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rusDaSkreech: what do you mean?05:34
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DaSkreechYou said you called the keyboard layout function05:34
DaSkreechIs that like a on-screen keyboard?05:34
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DaSkreechhi jpatrick05:34
rusnope05:34
jpatrickhi DaSkreech05:34
roniezhow can i get wordwrap i aterm?05:34
Sputnik_NLOnce again I've a question about Adept, somtimes it just locks up (other programs run fine). Any chance for a new version before the final?05:34
roniezits screwing up when i am typing but when otherppl do it its ok.05:35
DaSkreechSputnik_NL: it locks up?05:35
rusits a little icon in tray looks like a country flag05:35
Sputnik_NLyes, after refreshing the database DaSkreech05:35
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DaSkreechSputnik_NL: Repeatable?05:36
russhows the keyboard layout currently active05:36
Sputnik_NLlet's say one in the 4/5 times you try it05:36
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Sputnik_NLand sometimes it closes after installing new packages05:36
rusexample: US , RU (russian)05:36
DaSkreechWell adept is pretty much just open for me all the time05:36
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DaSkreechMy closes when I search too quickly05:36
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LaneyThat's better.05:36
Sputnik_NLthat's weird tough05:36
LaneyCan I be pointed in the direction of some information on getting my media keys (volume, mute, web browser etc etc) on my keyboard working in KDE please?!05:37
Sputnik_NLis the development of Adept still on track?05:37
DaSkreechrus: Which are you typing in?05:37
Sputnik_NLI thought there were two more versions to come for the final05:37
Sputnik_NL(RC, Final)05:37
rusUS05:37
rusof course05:37
Kadranhii, is there is a way to run a command line in tty1-6 and make it run in kde>?05:37
DaSkreechrus: and it doesn't work?05:37
rus))05:38
rusit does05:38
rusbut i need to switch to russian sometimes05:38
rusand that doesnt05:38
Sputnik_NLwhat if you make two user accounts05:39
Sputnik_NLand hot switch between them05:39
Sputnik_NLone with standard US and one as standard RU05:39
Sputnik_NLjust a work-around05:39
ruswhat for?05:39
DaSkreechWell under accessibilty you can enable keyboard switching05:39
rusim talking about symbol switching05:40
Sputnik_NLbecause your problem is you can't switch keyboard layout right, or am I mistaken here05:40
rusyes but not from pc104 to pc 10505:40
rusfor example05:40
Sputnik_NLI understand05:40
rusfrom latin to cyrillic symbols05:40
Sputnik_NLbut these settings are user account pacific05:40
rusnope05:41
Sputnik_NLnot?05:41
rus)))05:41
rusyou're getting me wrong05:41
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=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by Hobbsee at Thu May 4 10:58:08 2006
(rus/#kubuntu) so when you need to type dutch you press a key combination to type dutch or not?05:42
(Sputnik_NL/#kubuntu) nope, we use US-International keyboards here05:42
ruswhat about extra symbols like the a with to dots on it?05:43
Sputnik_NLwe don't have them05:43
ruscrap ))05:43
Sputnik_NLand special charters we insert with ASCII code05:44
Sputnik_NLwe don't have Dutch layouts for keyboards, just US-International ;)05:44
ruswell in russian the letters are different05:44
Sputnik_NLI know, tell me about it05:44
Sputnik_NLI understand your problem, in theory05:44
rusand before I pressed alt+shift and i could type in russian05:45
Sputnik_NLmaybe something to submit to launchpad then05:45
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rusnow i must have installed some crap that avoids the alt+shift to get to the xserver05:45
DaSkreechHow did you set it to alt+shift?05:46
Sputnik_NLI see05:46
rusOption"XkbLayout""us,ru(winkeys)"05:46
rusOption"XkbVariant""nodeadkeys"05:46
rusOption"XkbOptions""grp:alt_shift_toggle"05:46
rusputting this to xserver in the keyboard section05:47
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ruscould it be xkb?05:48
Sputnik_NLwhat about "Alt+Ctl+k"05:48
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Sputnik_NLlol05:48
rusthats crap 3 instead of 205:48
rusi know thats the default kde command for keyboard layout05:49
rusbut it doesnt work for me05:49
Sputnik_NLweird stuff05:49
Lorenzodrus: have you added Russian keyboard to the KDE keyboard properties?05:50
Sputnik_NLand if you configure the switching from the "Regional & Accessibility" from the System Settings?05:50
rusyep05:50
Sputnik_NLit offers to configure your xkb options too05:50
rusLorenzod did that to05:51
LorenzodExactly, that's how I switch between American and Swedish keyboard layouts.05:51
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rusgives me an error05:51
Sputnik_NLshoot me, I really don't know05:51
v3ctor1;2c1;2chmm05:51
Lorenzodrus: what error, exactly?05:52
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=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by Hobbsee at Thu May 4 10:58:08 2006
(Sputnik_NL/#kubuntu) sure you are running the latest updates?05:53
(Lorenzod/#kubuntu) I don't know, but on my system, Alt+Shift activates Skim.05:53
(Sputnik_NL/#kubuntu) and do you use xnumlock or something?05:53
(rus/#kubuntu) nope05:53
(Sputnik_NL/#kubuntu) then I'm sorry05:53
(DaSkreech/#kubuntu) Whats skim?05:53
Sputnik_NLwish you good luck solving05:53
Sputnik_NLfor Chinese05:53
LorenzodDaSkreech: input method framework.05:54
DaSkreechLorenzod: To build new input methods?05:54
DaSkreechLike for wacoms or Tablets?05:54
Sputnik_NLI thought skim is for asian languages05:54
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Sputnik_NL:)05:55
DaSkreechI just saw it in Utilites05:55
Sputnik_NLgtg, good luck all05:55
Sputnik_NLyes, well as far I know skim has to do with Asian languages05:55
DaSkreechIf it's not intended to be used by users why is it there?05:55
LorenzodNo, rather it allows you to input in languages like 05:56
rusis there a russian channel for (k) ubuntu?05:56
DaSkreechk05:58
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WhyMLaney: http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/05:58
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roniezlol somebody is having fun in #ubuntu05:58
rusyep))05:59
LorenzodHm..05:59
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Lorenzod #ubuntu You need to be invited to that channel05:59
Lorenzod??05:59
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roniezsomebody was flooding the channel06:03
DaSkreechops :)06:03
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zahlerstreikhey does anyone know how i can get to the Synaptic Package Manager in Kubuntu 5.04?06:20
DaSkreechzahlerstreik: use adept06:21
zahlerstreik?06:21
DaSkreechKubuntuMenu -> System -> Adept06:21
DaSkreechor alt+space then type adept06:21
zahlerstreikah06:22
zahlerstreiksorry06:22
DaSkreechNo problem06:22
zahlerstreikkubuntu comes with "kynaptic"06:22
zahlerstreikhaaha06:22
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=== DaSkreech shudders at kynaptic
zahlerstreiklolllllllll06:22
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DaSkreechzahlerstreik: Which kubuntu are you using? I havenm06:23
DaSkreechzahlerstreik: Which kubuntu are you using? I haven't seen Kynaptic since hoary06:23
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zahlerstreikthats the one06:23
ruisuso i guess debian packaes are compatible with kubuntu?06:23
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DaSkreechauuugh06:23
zahlerstreikhow do i add a repository with this damn one?06:23
zahlerstreikyeah kubuntu is based on debiam06:23
zahlerstreikdebian06:23
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ruisugood06:23
zahlerstreiklol06:23
DaSkreechI'm going to install kynaptic to help you get rid of it :(06:24
DaSkreech Wait You know about sources.list?06:24
zahlerstreikDaSkreech how do i add a repository in kynaptic?06:24
zahlerstreiknothing06:24
zahlerstreikim teh nub06:24
DaSkreechdamn ok hold on06:24
zahlerstreikim hardware06:24
zahlerstreiki built 10 LGA 775 boxes yesterday in like ~2hrs06:24
DaSkreechUgh Ok They don't have it in the repos anymore06:24
zahlerstreik:(06:24
DaSkreechok what do you want to upgrade to?06:25
zahlerstreiki need to get wine06:25
zahlerstreikso i can play cs06:25
DaSkreech5.10 or 6.06?06:25
zahlerstreikfucked if i know06:25
zahlerstreikh/o06:25
DaSkreechlanguage06:25
zahlerstreiksrry06:25
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zahlerstreiknewest distro06:25
zahlerstreikso 6.0606:25
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DaSkreechok open a konsole06:26
zahlerstreikk06:26
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zahlerstreikdone06:26
DaSkreechand type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:26
zahlerstreikwow that was hard06:26
zahlerstreikhit return?06:27
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roniezhm.. anybody here know aterm good?06:27
zahlerstreikoh god06:27
zahlerstreikkate has opened teh text box06:27
zahlerstreikwhat now06:28
v3ctormulti-aterm just got removed from my system06:28
DaSkreechput in your password06:28
zahlerstreikyeah06:28
zahlerstreiki did that06:28
zahlerstreiknow theres a bunch of repositories06:28
zahlerstreiki know which one to use for WINE06:28
DaSkreechok Enable it06:28
zahlerstreiki just dont know how to add it :(06:28
zahlerstreikkynaptic sucks ass06:28
ruisuok, so i need to run some programs to get wireless internet, how can i create a bash script that loads after loading the disks and doesnt need me to type the root password?06:29
zahlerstreikcan i add it in konsole?06:29
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DaSkreechsi06:29
DaSkreechYou are in kate now?06:29
zahlerstreikyeah06:29
mth`MAWhi there06:29
ruisuhi06:29
zahlerstreikwhat's the command to add a repository?06:29
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mth`MAWsudo vi /etc/apt/source.list06:29
DaSkreechok now do a Ctrl+R06:30
zahlerstreikk06:30
DaSkreechFind hoary and replace with dapper06:30
zahlerstreikon the first line?06:30
zahlerstreikit says hoary twice on the first line06:31
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zahlerstreikshould i just add the repository i want in this list?06:31
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DaSkreechYes06:33
zahlerstreikcool06:33
zahlerstreikdownloading and installing06:33
zahlerstreikty06:33
zahlerstreiklol06:33
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mitakkaIs there a GUI ftp server, because i am not a linux guru yet ???06:35
DaSkreechmitakka: Sure06:37
mitakkajust name it06:38
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DaSkreechkbear06:40
jpatrickkasablanca06:41
jpatrickkftpgrabber06:41
reonanyone here installed Kerry ?06:41
mitakkathanks06:41
mitakkayou have a beer from me06:42
reonkasablanca is cool06:42
mitakka:)06:42
jpatrick<- kerry packager06:42
jpatrickmitakka: I'm too young for beer06:42
jpatrickbut anyhoo06:42
reonkerry, the beagle frontend ?06:42
nico8481hi06:42
jpatrickyes06:42
mitakkaok so a orenge juice fine???06:42
mitakka*orange06:43
DaSkreechAnyone is an adept guru?06:43
DaSkreechCan I filter out the repos?06:43
DaSkreechFor example only see Universe things?06:43
xwolf-how do i edit samba's network group from WORKGROUP to GRUPO forever? because this bitch keeps changing back to workgroup ;/06:43
jpatrickreon: apt-cache show kerry06:43
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nico8481how come that user that has been kicked from a channel can auto-rejoin although a keyword has been set before the kicking ?06:45
nico8481is it normal?06:45
reonjpatrick, i know but how wel does it work & i suppose i need kio-beagle as well ?06:45
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jpatrickreon: works well, no you don't need kio-beagle06:45
reonjpatrick, ok so i just need kerry then06:46
grandais there a tool which can identify a font on the screen?06:46
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jpatrickKynaptic sucks06:46
DaSkreechyes it does thank mornfall for adept06:46
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DaSkreechSo can I fileter by repo?06:51
DaSkreechAhh Adept needs a changelog viewer06:51
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stevelol06:51
stevequick06:51
stevewhats the command to change file permissions06:51
DaSkreechsudo rm06:51
stevelol06:51
DaSkreech:-D06:51
steve<306:51
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zahlerstreiklol06:51
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zahlerstreikhi1u06:51
zahlerstreikor06:51
zahlerstreikhi2u06:51
DaSkreechsteve; don't do it!06:51
zahlerstreiky06:51
zahlerstreikSEE06:51
zahlerstreikim a nub06:51
zahlerstreiki wouldve done it06:51
zahlerstreiki mounted my NTFS drive on a folder but kubuntu is lame and gives it root only access06:52
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zahlerstreikhow do i give any user read access06:52
zahlerstreikto a folder06:52
DaSkreechzahlerstreik: It's not lame it's smart06:52
xwolf-how do i edit samba's network group from WORKGROUP to GRUPO forever? because this bitch keeps changing back to workgroup ;/06:52
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zahlerstreikDaSkreech: how do i change the permissions for a folder so anyone can read it06:53
DaSkreechzahlerstreik: from a konsole type man chmod06:53
zahlerstreiklol06:53
zahlerstreikty06:53
DaSkreechsure when you want to get out of that press q06:54
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zahlerstreikso it would be chmod ~/Desktop/disk -a -rwx?06:56
DaSkreechno you need the -rwx before the file06:56
DaSkreech and -removes that btw06:56
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DaSkreechIf you want to add them you need +rwx06:56
DaSkreechYou shouldn't put on w on a ntfs drive06:56
Flosofthey @ all06:57
zahlerstreik:(06:57
zahlerstreikoh yeah06:57
DaSkreechbad things (tm) can happen06:57
zahlerstreikchmod +a  +rx ~/Desktop/disk06:57
Flosofthow do I get Lipstik on Kubuntu Dapper06:57
zahlerstreikdoesnt work06:57
Flosoftas after the upgrades the libraries with the KDE styles etc. didn't add Lipstik ?06:57
DaSkreechThe theme?06:59
DaSkreechzahlerstreik: What permissions does it have now?07:00
DaSkreechzahlerstreik: try sudo before it07:00
zahlerstreikroot can do whatev07:00
zahlerstreiki can do nothing07:00
zahlerstreikcan i work in the GUI as root07:00
zahlerstreikall i need to do is copy some stuff07:00
zahlerstreikthats all07:00
zahlerstreiksudo chmod a +rx ~/Desktop/disk07:01
zahlerstreikgives me error:m invalid mode string 'a'07:01
Flosoftyes DaSkreech07:01
DaSkreech-a?07:01
DaSkreechYou did a dist-upgrade to dapper?07:02
Flosoftme?07:02
DaSkreechFlosoft: how did you get dapper?07:02
Flosoftvia Updates in Synaptic07:02
Flosoftand now updates with Adept07:02
DaSkreechWhere were you upgrading from?07:02
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Flosoftah archive.ubuntu.com07:03
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DaSkreechFlosoft: no I mean from which version of *ubuntu?07:05
Flosoft5.1007:05
Flosoftand I think that was based on 5.0407:06
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theobromahello riddell07:06
Flosoftbut I have the latest version of KDE07:06
DaSkreechSi07:06
JRGCHow do I install Java on kubuntu=07:06
JRGC????07:07
DaSkreechand under appearances in the System settings you don't see Lipstik07:07
DaSkreech!java07:07
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:07
DaSkreech!javadebs07:07
mhterresJRCG: the better way is download the java from SUN and then run the .bin07:07
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DaSkreechtell jrgc about javadebs07:07
JRGCIs there a blackdown java?07:11
DaSkreechYeah I think so07:12
JRGCBut for dapper, I need a blackdown java07:12
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nysosymhello :D07:21
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mhterresJRGC: install the java downloaded from Sun07:24
JRGCmhterres:  how?07:26
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DaSkreechFlosoft: hi07:27
mhterresdownload the .bin file and then chmod +x it and run07:27
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klarkinafternoon07:28
mhterreshi07:28
klarkin:)07:28
klarkinjust a quickie07:28
klarkinmp3 for amarok - cannot seem to get it to work at all - dapper install07:29
klarkini have googled to no avail07:29
jpatrick!mp307:29
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped07:29
ubotufrom memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:29
DaSkreechtell klarkin about mp307:30
jpatrickjust did that07:31
klarkinxmms works but amarok nada ? - ogg ofcourse works07:32
DaSkreechjpatrick: just a bit more direct :)07:32
DaSkreechogg doesn't work in Amarok?07:32
klarkinogg ofcourse works07:33
klarkin;)07:33
jpatrickklarkin: install libxine-extracodecs from multiverse07:33
klarkindid that07:33
DapperDrakeyay, I've finaly figured out how to start an app in a specific desktop07:34
klarkini always goole before asking stupid questions :P07:34
klarkingoogle even :/07:34
jpatrick...07:34
jpatrickwhat engine are you using?07:34
DaSkreechDapperDrake: From CommandLine?07:35
DapperDrakeyea07:35
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DaSkreechDapperDrake: tell!07:35
DapperDrakewait a second, I'm not DapperDrake07:35
klarkinanother starange thing is - it will only let me use arts engine07:35
DapperDrakeanyway07:35
DaSkreechEdgyEft?07:35
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jpatrickklarkin: woah...07:35
coffeeguyhey folks :)07:35
DapperDrakeits kstart --desktop 1 amarok07:35
DapperDrakelike that07:35
DapperDrakeits done wonders for my startup07:36
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jpatrickklarkin: try libakode2-mpeg ...07:36
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klarkincomplaining about xine engine = xine was unable to initialise any audio-drivers07:36
klarkin libakode2-mpeg also done07:36
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Flosoftdoes anyone know how to set-up a mini install of kubuntu to be an XDMCP Client?07:37
DeBertIs it possible to use 2 languages(dutch/english) for spellchecking in KDE/Konqueror?07:37
ahmuck_jris anyone using cacti on kubuntu ?07:37
jpatrickklarkin: strange..07:37
klarkinindeed :)07:37
DaSkreechDapperDrake: Thats' pretty schweet07:37
klarkinlooks like i will mp32ogg my day away :P07:38
DapperDrakeDapperDrake: yup07:38
DapperDrakeomg07:38
DapperDrakelol07:38
DapperDrakeI was talking to you DaSkreech07:38
niekieDapperDrake: Talking to yourself is a sign of insanity.07:39
niekieHehe. :P07:39
DaSkreechDapperDrake: Talking to your self is a sure sign of kookiness ;-)07:39
DapperDrakeactually talking to yourself is very health, it builds up confidence07:39
DapperDrakeso there07:39
DapperDrake:p07:40
klarkinPackage libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate - and i do have multiverse in sources.list :/07:40
jpatricksudo apt-get update07:40
klarkinalso done07:40
DapperDrakehealthy*07:41
jpatrickDapperDrake: that's something I need07:42
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DapperDrakelol07:43
klarkinok i punch myself in the head - sorted it07:44
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klarkin:007:44
DapperDrakelol07:44
DapperDrakewho is *?07:45
klarkinhad backports multiverse - not multiverse lines in sources.list07:45
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klarkinduh07:45
DapperDrake!*07:45
ubotuDapperDrake: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:45
DapperDrakelol07:45
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morrowi home someday they will remove the "-dd" from network-manager....07:46
jpatrickklarkin: heh07:46
klarkinsorry about that07:47
klarkin;)07:47
DapperDrakeis  network-manager a command cause' its not in /bin07:48
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jpatricknot meant to be in /bin07:49
jpatrickbut /usr/bin07:49
DapperDrakewhatever07:50
DapperDrakeanyway, what is the keyboard shortcut for Run Command?07:50
DaSkreechMeta+F207:51
DapperDrakeyou mean Alt+F2?07:52
DapperDrakethanks for refreshing my memory07:52
klarkinF5 :P07:53
klarkinbad joke - :)07:53
DapperDrakeit must be very bad, I fail to see the humor in it07:54
klarkinyup07:54
DapperDrake:p07:54
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DapperDrakedoes Adept work for everyone else here?08:00
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M3ATW0DAnyone here familar with SunRay's on Ubuntu and can offer help? Specifically keyboard issues.08:01
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DapperDrakewhen I run sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install it gives me the following error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:02
m0ns00nAnyone knows how to stop two network cards from switching place after each reboot?08:02
m0ns00neth1 <-> eth208:02
m0ns00nIt's trouble!08:03
m0ns00n:-)08:03
m0ns00nI need to switch the cables after each reboot08:03
m0ns00nSo that the home network will work08:03
DaSkreechChecked in /etc/network?08:04
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M3ATW0Dshould scan the pci bus from bottom to top08:04
M3ATW0Die first card on bottom08:04
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M3ATW0Dafter that it then looks at onboard stuff08:05
nox-HandHey08:05
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nox-HandI am using the dapper release... And, the install crashes X(08:05
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DaSkreechnox-Hand: Which release?08:06
h3sp4wnM0ns00n: are they both the same brand of card ? there is a way of locking interfaces to MAC address but I can't remember it08:06
nox-HandDaSkreech: Dunno, I downloaded it this week.08:06
nox-HandDaSkreech: I got the error right here, if you could take a look.08:06
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DaSkreechnox-Hand: Did you do a md5 sum on the iso?08:07
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nox-HandDaSkreech: Hm, no, but I checked the CD before installation, with that Kubuntu thing..08:07
DaSkreechok08:08
nox-Handhttp://pastebin.com/700495 There, DaSkreech08:08
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nox-Handbbl, I hope someone can help =)08:08
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Flosoftwhy isn't Lipstik Window Decoration on my install? Where can I get it?08:19
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squillanox_Hand: you have an ATI or Nvidia graphics card08:23
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squillanox_Hand: go to wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowTo08:23
squillanox_Hand: as in go to http://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowTo08:24
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FlosoftI have Lipstik style installed, but I can't choose it as window layout08:35
Flosoftcould someone help me with that?08:35
jpatrickmaybe it's a style and not a win-deco08:36
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Flosoftok ... it is a style08:37
zorglu1q. can i install from the livecd ? 6.0408:37
Flosoftbut what about the Win-Deco used on the new Kubuntu?08:37
jpatrickkwin-style-crystal08:38
Flosoftno08:38
Flosoftthere is this new one08:38
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jpatrickblended?08:39
FlosoftSmooth Blend? no08:39
Flosoftthis one: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/616/7.gif08:41
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jpatrickkwin-style-crystal08:42
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jpatrickhu Snake__08:42
Flosoftbut .. that isn't crystal :S08:43
jpatrickFlosoft: it is08:43
Flosoft????08:43
Snake__hey jpatrick08:43
zorglu1q. can i install from the livecd 6.04 ?08:44
jpatrickI am the maintainer of that package, so I'm pretty sure what it is and what it ain't08:44
jpatrickzorglu1: sort of08:44
Snake__I think its time to do a fresh dapper install..08:44
Snake__This one is way to b0rked08:44
Flosoftwell .. how come it is rounded ?08:44
Flosoftdo I need to configure it?08:44
Snake__Flosoft: Crystal is rounded08:44
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zorglu1Snake__: jpatrick: so to sumup, it is not advised ? :)08:45
jpatricktesting is welcome....08:45
Snake__zorglu1: No it works fine from what ive used08:45
Snake__zorglu1: but please, if theres any issues, report it08:45
zorglu1q. how is the install of the kubuntu 'normal' ?08:45
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Snake__zorglu1: as in using a install disk?08:45
zorglu1Snake__: well i am a dev, and dont want to crash my whole disk :)08:46
zorglu1Snake__: yep08:46
zorglu1Snake__: is there any ? in fact i havent checked08:46
Snake__zorglu1: works fine :) altho I suggest you dont install beta software on a productive box08:46
Lynourezorglu1: backups, those are a glorious thing :)08:46
zorglu1Snake__: kubuntu is beta ?08:46
Snake__zorglu1: Your talking about kubuntu 6.06 right?08:46
zorglu1Lynoure: yep and no more disk space is infamous :)08:46
zorglu1Snake__: yep. well i got 6.04 livecd08:47
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zorglu1Snake__: which one should i install for stable ?08:47
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Lynourezorglu1: external harddisks are not that expensive anymore, and one can always burn dvds/cds08:47
zorglu1Lynoure: i know, i got more than 400gbyte08:48
BlissexLynoure: external hard disks are a very good idea.08:48
Snake__zorglu1: Its now known as 6.06, and that sounds like a older version if you have it labeled 6.04. The live install is pretty buggy on older disks. and if you want stable you should go look for Kubuntu 5.10 Breezy08:48
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zorglu1Snake__: ok, is updating the distribution working well on ubuntu ?08:49
Snake__zorglu1: Re-Word08:49
zorglu1Snake__: in fact my question is more 'if i install 5.10, do i have to reinstall a 6.x' pretty soon ?08:49
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simluhi guys08:50
mhterreszorglu1: 6.06 will be released in June 1st08:50
mhterreshi08:50
Snake__zorglu1: No, it should be able to be updatable, or you could get a new live disk to use, but just be aware it is still in beta testing and there is a chance of your hard drive blowing up.08:50
simlui've upgraded my kubuntu breezy to kde 3.508:50
zorglu1Snake__: ok i come from fedora world. and to upgrade your os from say fc4 to fc5 is quite an utopy. so im wondering if ubuntu is similar ?08:50
simluand now kcontrol doesn't work anymore08:50
mhterressimlu: strange, works fine for me08:51
Snake__zorglu1: No to update to 6.06, you would simply put the dapper repos into your sources.list (for apt-get) then apt-get dist-upgrade, and it shoud hook you up.08:51
simluand of course I used apt-get to do the thing08:51
mhterressimlu: did you run a apt-get dist-upgrade, after the apt-fer upgrade08:51
simlumhterres - yes08:51
zorglu1Snake__: nice :) thansk for all the info08:51
Snake__zorglu1: no problem :)08:51
simlumhterres - but I think I found something that is missing... kdegraphics-kfile-plugins has not been updated because of unmet dependencies.08:52
simlumhterrese - kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler0c2-qt (>= 0.4.0) but it is not going to be installed08:53
simlumhterres - libpoppler0c2-qt: Depends: libpoppler0c2 (= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6) but 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.7 is to be installed08:53
simlumhterres - any clues? :)08:53
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mhterresno, I didn't have this problem...08:55
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simlumhterrese - which one did you install? 3.5, 3.5.1, 3.5.2?08:55
mhterreseverybody that I know that upgrade to KDE (3.5.2) doesn't have any problems08:55
simluof course everytime something doesn't work for me, it works for everyone08:56
Flosoftis there a way to change the login screen? something non vi?08:57
mhterressimlu: heh08:57
Snake__simlu: if your on Kubuntu 5.10 you should expect problems. Note for the future: Newer is not always better. If you live on the cutting edge, expect to bleed.08:58
simlusnake - problems with kubuntu 5.10? why?08:58
DaSkreechFlosoft: To what?08:58
DaSkreechFlosoft: Did You get your lipstik?08:59
Flosoftyes08:59
simlusnake - and no, I don't really like to live on the cutting edge. :)08:59
Snake__simlu: Because it wasnt designed to run that. in anycase, can you pastebin where you got this error?08:59
Flosoftit was crystal08:59
Flosoft;)08:59
Snake__!pastebin08:59
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126908:59
Flosoftbut now I got it and it works well :)08:59
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DaSkreech:-)09:01
simlusnake - haha, well i thought it was safe to upgrade, they annonced it on their web site!09:01
simlusnake - the error I paste is an error from apt-get09:01
simlusnake - you want me to paste it again?09:02
Snake__simlu: I would like to see it all in a whole, from what you type in to get that error, to the end09:02
Snake__simlu: and please paste it in a pastebin09:03
simlualrite09:03
simlusnake - done09:04
Snake__simlu: link?09:04
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simlusnake - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1343609:05
Snake__looking09:05
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zorglu1q. i have a ubuntu 5.10 around, can i install this one and pass it to kubuntu latter  ? or download/burning the kubuntu 5.1 better (aka less risky) ?09:06
Snake__zorglu1: You could do a server install then "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:06
DaSkreechzorglu1: Unless you plan on doing that a few times then it's faster to get the new cd09:07
Snake__simlu: try to "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kde" , pastebin out put09:07
zorglu1wow so you guys really got a good upgrade stuff09:07
zorglu1real nice :)09:07
nox-HandDaSkreech: You got any idea whats wrong?09:07
zorglu1ok trying :)09:07
Snake__zorglu1: we got our ducks in a row ;)09:07
DaSkreechnox-Hand: Thought you got answered above09:08
macdof course youll have to download 900 packages first :P09:08
DaSkreechScroll up09:08
nox-HandDaSkreech: Will do09:08
nox-Handsquilla: Hey, what does me having a Nvidia card have to do with error I get when installing Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper?09:09
mhterresnox-Hand: what Nvidia model ?09:11
simlusnake - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1343709:11
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nox-Handmhterres: Geforce FX520009:11
nox-Handmhterres: What has my GFX got to do with failing install...?09:11
Snake__wtf...09:12
Snake__simlu: "sudo apt-get install -f"09:12
nox-Hand:-|09:12
Snake__simlu: then try "sudo apt-get install kde" again, tell me if it still gives you that error09:12
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simlusnake - still the same error09:15
Snake__simlu: "sudo apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins"09:15
Snake__this is annoying.09:15
Snake__lol09:15
simlusnake - I think the problem is libpoppler0c209:16
Snake__simlu: what happens when you try to install that?09:16
LeeJunFananyone else with up-to-date dapper seeing arts going mad with RAM?09:17
nox-HandAnyone? Does anyone have any idea why  my crashing Kubuntu 6.06 install has anything to do with my Geforce FX5200...?09:17
simlusnake - it is installed already. but the problem is that kdegraphics-kfile-plugins what's the 0.4.2-0ubuntu6, and me I have0.4.2-0ubuntu6.709:18
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simluwhat's = wants09:18
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Snake__simlu: im sorry man, but your problem is beyond my knowledge :(09:18
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cc-dashLeeJunFan: i have no trouble with arts ...09:19
Lynourenox-Hand: oh, poor thing. (unfortunately I'm no ubuntu guru and not having any concentration either)09:19
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squillanox_Hand: was away watching final fantasy vii - sorry09:19
squillanvidia and ati drivers are in restricted09:20
Snake__squilla: hows that movie?09:20
Lynourenox-Hand: Does the install crash or the Xserver fail to start? Different things and I'm not sure which you mean.09:20
squillaSnake: well - I watched the prelude that's cobbled together out of the game and then it makes sense - lovely graphics :-)09:21
squillanox_Hand: the x-server is the only problem09:21
Snake__squilla: hmm09:21
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squillanox_Hand: i rebooted in recovery mode (option at boot time) and monted the cd and then used dpkg to install the packages in pool/restricted/l/ and pool/restricted/n09:22
squillabut there are good instructions at the following url - I got it a bit wrong earlier (was written on a physica lnotepad - so retro)09:23
squillahold09:23
simluis there a place where I can search for kubuntu packages?09:24
simluand I mean something more verbose than apt-get/adept/synaptic09:24
Lynouresimlu: apt-cache search foobar09:25
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Lynouresimlu: then add google, if it is not verbose enough09:25
macdsimlu: you can also look at packages.ubuntu.com09:26
macdits not kubuntu specific, but has all the packages.09:26
LynoureI often do    apt-cache search foobar barfoo | grep foobar09:26
squillasimlu:apt-get.org - but not all packages work - but it's cool because synaptic will bitch about it and refuse to install :-) - gotta love that safety belt09:27
ruisuchecking for KDE... configure: error:09:27
ruisuin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.09:27
ruisuSo, check this please and use another prefix!09:27
macdsimlu: you trying go from ubuntu to kubuntu?09:27
macdor just install KDE?09:27
simluno no09:28
simlui'm on kubuntu 5.1009:28
simluand I decided to update my kde to 3.509:28
squillanox-Hand: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2909:28
squillasimlu: have you tried searching for "kde-desktop"09:29
simlubut a package is missing09:29
macdahh09:29
simlua unmet dependencies09:29
macdI just added the repo and it went flawlessly09:29
simluso kde is now flaky. :)09:30
macdjust like on dapper :)09:30
beligumHi all, I'm experiencing some problems with OpenGL in Dapper (works perfect in Breezy). Does someone know what changed in Dapper?09:30
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macdbeligum: its covered in kubuntu forums09:30
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macdits most likely using vesa and not your graphics driver specifcly09:30
beligumthanks for that, I'll look into it09:30
Riddellhi theine09:31
Riddellhmm, sorry, wanted theobroma09:31
Lynouresquilla: if nox-Hand was just installing ubuntu and has no x, those isntructions need heavy modifying to work.09:31
beligumno, not vesa, I'm using the nvidia proprietary driver09:31
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squillaLynoure: true - but I alsao gave him easier cli ones from booting in recovery mode09:32
Lynourecommanlinefying, rather09:32
macdohhhh, and glx still not working, interesting09:32
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erikstiwhat has happened with the "java-package"? it's no longer available..09:32
macdI had a lil problem with my ATI, but upon reconfiguring fglrx it works09:32
beligumwell, it's working, but not as in Breezy09:32
macddoes X show direct rendering?09:33
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beligumI wrote a program that draws OpenGL meshes (from a .obj file) and the renderings are messed op in dapper09:33
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squilladid you guys see on slashdot sun is modifying the java license? java will probably come prepackaged soon :-)09:33
macdso you have hardware gl acceleration working just the gl engine is not rendering properly09:33
beligumthat's it09:34
beligumstrange thing is that it worked flawlessly in breezy09:34
macdsquilla: yeah and its about time, java on linux locks up my FF l09:34
squillaLynoure: if he used aptitude from the console and searched for nvidia he should get it09:34
macdyeah, of course it changed with the move to dapper09:34
macdbut its most likely a mesa issue, not distro related.09:35
squillamacd: what's FF ? soz09:35
macdfirefox09:35
Lynouresquilla: I hope he knows some linux, then.09:35
macdwe should proly say jre instead of java too :P09:35
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squillamacd: interesting .... FF was freezing for me too - at www.wulfmorgenthaler.com - just started using konqueror instead :-)09:36
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beligumBtw, I get this error on startup: ScimInputContextPlugin()09:36
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macdI couldnt get jre working in konq.09:36
Halitherseswhere can i download your live cd to try out?09:37
macdI use opera 8xx09:37
marianhi09:37
marianis there a kubuntu+1  channel ? :P09:37
macdheh09:37
squillaLynoure: point taken - but what else can I tell him if he can't use cli yet? ANd I'm sure he's curious and belligerent to work it out once he gets to aptitude09:37
macdHalitherses: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php09:38
marianI'm trying to use a  kde-window-decorator in kubuntu but it doesn't work, anyone has experience with that program?09:38
Lynouresquilla: I didn't mean to critizise you, so far you have been wonderful... and he does know the word "ping" :)09:38
Halithersesthanks09:38
macdmarian: I cant even get ksplash to behave :P09:38
macdchange it rewrite to config, even manualy it still uses the old one.09:38
ruisuhello?09:38
macdruisu: yes your here09:39
zorglu1q. im installing ubuntu 5.10 on a laptop with a b44 ethernet card. apparently i got some trouble. my guess is a irq issue. i tried acpi=off noapic nolapic but nothing solve it. the b44 is recognized but timeout while trying to send (deduced from dmesg). any suggestion ?09:39
marianmacd: ?09:39
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squillaLynoure:it's cool and you're right - but I "almost never " tell people they "can't do it"  - I can .. an deven though I'm incredibly good looking and virile, I'm not THAT bright :p09:39
macdhehe09:40
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squillahave you guys noticed that someone who has no fear of destroying their M$ system by "clicking a button" often has an immense fear of makng a mistake by typing?09:41
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macdthats b/c in the old days you had to click yes alot ;)09:42
macdI see avg users get so fustrated by just the boot process into windows,09:42
squillamacd: and complain about clicking that yes so many times too :-)09:42
macdtheyre like what is all this stuff that keeps popping up then going away, I jsut tell them I dont know you installed it sometime09:43
Lynouresquilla: I agree, one shouldn't tell them that. Just help them furter if they ask for further help and one can easily provide it. Geeks and hatchlings like challenges :)09:43
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macdlazy geeks dont :P09:43
Lynourelaziness is a virtue, programmers often say09:43
squillamacd: true - ubuntu is way faster on my dual boot now - although dhclient had blood leaking out my eye sockets last night09:43
macdwanna hear something really wierd09:44
macdwhen I moved from ndiswrapper to the kernel atheros wifi driver, the connection drops every few seconds09:44
squillaLynoure: Then I must be the religious icon of Geeks - because Dude! I'm lazy!09:44
zorglu1you got a irq10 conflit for you b44 too ?!?! :)09:44
zorglu1damn 1sec too late :)09:44
Lynourehttp://www.debian.org/distrib/packages09:45
Lynouresquilla: lazy like a Sunday morning or like Haskell?09:45
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squillamacd: check hotplug? and then remove the damn thing09:45
macdyeah I checked hotplug, then I moved to removing the kernel atheros driver and reinstall the ndis drivers, now it wnot associate09:46
squillaLynoure:Sunday in December somewhere around the 31st with 28 degrees celsius and warm ocean09:46
macdhappened in the breezy/dapper change09:46
squillaback i ten09:46
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macdand I ran depmod -a to let the kernel know the driver was gone, and its still loading as ath0 not wlan009:47
macdits real wierd09:47
LynoureSinful windows adventure game time for me... .bbl09:49
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gringohi09:50
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gringowitch is the best driver for ATI Mobility Cards?09:51
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macdwhats the exact chipset?09:51
squillagringo: what card?09:52
macdX has good support for the igp series but radeon mobility should use the ati proprietary driver I think09:52
squillamacd: I'm back by the way - want some tea :-)09:52
gringohow can I get this information?09:52
DaSkreechSo Compiz has to be rejiggered for kdewin?09:52
gringolet me check the notebook sheet09:53
squillagringo: lspci will do it --> type "lspci | less"09:53
gringooh thanks09:54
gringo0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300] 09:54
squillagringo: a hacker already! WOOHOO!09:54
gringosquilla: ? Oo09:54
squillagringo: teasing -- soz :-(09:55
squillahold on - checking the wiki09:55
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gringosquilla: :D09:55
gringoI think I did some shi* yesterday :/ I tried to install xgl09:56
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DeBertIs it possible to use multiple spellcheckers in KDE? I would like to use both Dutch and English.09:58
squillagringo: looks like radeon my guy09:59
squillaat least google.co.za/linux says so09:59
gringoso wich one ist the best driver for me?10:00
macdyeah built in driver according to X works.10:00
DaSkreechDeBert: No Idea :-(10:00
macdit wouldnt hurt to use the ati proprietary driver though.10:00
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gringowhen I try to start ATI Control then it says: Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 extensions10:01
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squillaDeBert: if you have multiple languages installed I'm guesing you can switch between them as you wish (like a decent Nokia phone) - but they won't be active at the same time10:01
squillagringo: maybe irrelevant, but does that driver/chipset have the juice for xgl?10:02
macdthe M300 doesnt use fireGL,. thats a workstation class card.10:02
macdsimilar to nvidia quadro10:03
squillagringo: macd is right - use the ATI drivers from their site, otherwise try on a better card10:03
gringoI don't know if I have misconfigured the whole stuff or if the card doesn't have the power...10:03
gringosquilla: it's built in in my notebook and I don't want to change it :(10:03
squillagringo: think Star Trek -" Captain She's gonna blow!"10:03
macdyou cant change it :P10:04
squillagringo: yeah of course - jus' try on a desktop machine10:04
gringodo you guys know if it is possible with my card to get that xgl stuff running?10:04
macdgive me one sec to look10:05
macdaccording to some documentation its not supported.10:06
gringodamned10:06
gringoI hope it's a question of time10:06
macdth lowest IGP is 345M, and it actualy sais DRI isnt supported so that would be marginal support at best10:06
squillagringo: nothing on google either, at least that's not in Japanese10:06
macdnot time, but politics10:06
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macdATI wont release the specs, it wont get done.10:07
macdvendors are responsible for lack of hardware support in linux, not the coders10:07
macdits shit.10:07
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squillamacd: geez, ah think ah'm gonna cry :-)10:07
macdhttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL#ATI_Cards10:07
macdgentoo none the less, but it doesnt matter.10:08
gringoI read that nvidia and ATI will release a driver when the xgl guys will have done a API10:08
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macdI hard that also gringo10:08
macdbut its prolly e-rumor10:08
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h3sp4wnApparantly ati is supported under X-org-7 upto 9600XT (in the release notes with the radeon driver)10:08
reagleBRKLNrunning kubuntu breezy, how can i get kubuntu to use a symbolic name as a mount point in /media ? (do i have to manually learn the diff between pmount hal ivman usbmount etc etc)10:08
fyrmedicWhere would I find the logs for the "Guarddog" firewall10:08
reagleBRKLNand how to config them?10:08
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macdATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300]  (Kororaa XGL Live CD 0.1, Freezed Machin10:09
macdlooks like it doesnt work.10:09
gringodoesen't matter just wantet to try this cube effect ;)10:10
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gringoI thank you for the help. I really love this community... I'll _never_ go back to Redmond10:11
reagleBRKLNhrmmm lshal -> "volume.policy.desired_mount_point = 'usbdisk'  (string)" so why not mounted there...?10:12
macdwell there is a place for everything :P10:12
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gringoIf I get two apps to sound at the same time, is it a hardware problem?10:14
gringoSorry, if i DON'T get...10:14
nox-HandHey, can anyone help me with the GUI install in the 6.06 Dapper Kubuntu Linux install? I get a crash..10:14
macdI had that with OSS moved to also all goes well10:15
macdALSA*10:15
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macdnox-Hand: there is some info on the GUI installer on the kubuntu-dapper wiki10:15
gringomacd: is it difficult to swich the sound server(?) ?10:15
squillamacd: re gringo - our work here is done :-)10:15
nox-Handmacd: Wheres that then?10:16
macdnox-Hand, try kubuntu.org follow the navigation.10:16
macdgringo, in kcontrol/sounds10:16
nox-Handmacd: Okies.10:16
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gringomacd: just changing the audio device to ALSA?10:17
macdyes that solved my issues.10:19
squillamacd: second that (have nforce4 for ethernet and sound)10:19
squillaon breezy was nvidia drivers and now it's all alsa and madwifi - and the sound quality is way better10:20
nox-HandHow do i start a command line install in the dapper 6.06? I have the GUI install, but it's buggy..10:20
squillamacd: I know nought of this gui installer - you?10:22
macdI hate the madwifi!10:22
macdI just thought of that, it wasnt loading the kernel atheros drier its using the madwifi one10:23
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macdhah thanks squilla10:23
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squillamacd: ath_pci?10:23
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macdsudo mv brain /dev/null10:23
fyrmedicAnyone know where to find the firewall log files so I can monitor them?10:23
macdno its pcmcia atheros, proxim gold to be exact.10:24
macdfyrmedic: typicaly all logs are in /var/log/10:24
macdiptables may or may not be set to log, I guess it depends on your frontend.10:24
squillathere's a gui for it now -ksystemlog?10:24
nox-HandAutomatix =)10:25
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fyrmedicany idea what it is called. I am using guarddog but I think it just runs with the native system fw10:25
macdksystemlog would be the thing you want10:25
fyrmedicok I'll try it thanks10:25
gringowohoooo my warzone now runs with sound *jumping around*10:26
macdlook in kmenu, system, ksystemlog10:26
nox-Handhow do I start a REGULAR install for Kubuntu Linux from cli?10:26
macdgringo, nice.10:26
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gringobut since I played around with xgl/ati graphics driver, opengl is very slow :(10:26
macdsquilla: you on dapper?10:27
Blissexgringo: check all the elements of DRI/fglrx are the right ones for accelerated GL10:27
gringoBlissex: sorry bout my newbish beeing but how should I do that? :/10:28
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zorgluuuq. i got a ubuntu 5.10 installed. what is the cmdline to get it converted to a kubuntu10:28
macddri worked in breezy for me but I had to toy with dapper, honestly unless you need 3d, its not really needed.10:28
zorgluuui have been told 1h ago, but i forgot10:28
Blissexgringo: the bad news is that is pretty difficult to do. To get accelerated GLX there are many bits and pieces that need to be just the right ones. There are several HOWTOs on the subject.10:28
macdzorgluuu: I do sudo pat-get remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop10:29
macds/pat/apt10:29
gringoBlissex: that sounds bad... I will have a look. Thank you10:29
macdof course If I could type/spell I'd be much better off.10:29
zorgluuumacd, in this order ? what if the install fails ?10:29
zorgluuui have no more desktop ?10:30
macdwhat ifs are always the question10:30
macdIve never had it fail on me10:30
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Seantateryou would still have a desktop10:30
macdyou can just install kde and have the same thing on ubuntu10:30
Seantateruninstalling ubuntu-desktop does not remove gnome10:30
nox-Hand-_-*10:30
poimensup!?10:30
zorgluuucool10:30
macdSeantater: yes your correct, my mistake, it just uninstalls the meta package10:31
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Seantaterinstalling *-desktop adds the desktop and everything it needs, uninstalling it does not do anything10:31
jpatrickyou need to remove the gnome libs10:31
Seantatermacd: exactly10:31
Blissexgringo: there is one such HOWTO in the Ubuntu wiki, but there are several others.10:31
macdtheres a good script on the ubuntu forums10:31
macdthat removes all traces of gnome, and installs kde10:31
Seantatermacd: however, if you can remove a specific gnome library, you can get rid of gnome altogther10:31
macdyes dependancies10:32
zorgluuuE: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop10:32
zorgluuu <- do i have to do something to get it ?10:32
Seantaterzorglu1: add universe repository10:32
macdzorgluuu: wait one sec, let me find you the script that does it10:32
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squillakubuntu-desktop or kde-desktop10:32
macdunless you want gnome and kde10:32
macdI shudder at that idea though10:32
zorgluuuReading package lists... Done10:33
zorgluuuBuilding dependency tree... Done10:33
zorgluuuE: Couldn't find package kde-desktop10:33
Seantatermacd: what scares you about having both?10:33
Seantaterzorglu1: there is no kde-desktop package10:33
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Seantaterzorglu1: only kubuntu-desktop10:33
macdSeantater: its more personal I suppose, my dislike of gnome10:33
squillaI got both - but then I got two hands and feet too .. and eleven toes10:33
Seantaterzorglu1: read what comes up when you say !repos10:33
macdhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingKDE10:34
macdthats pretty good.10:34
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zorgluuu!repos10:34
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource10:34
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dekihi. where can i configure my network card?10:34
nagihi! to all10:34
gringodeki: SystemSettings->Network10:35
floschhi deki10:35
Seantaterdeki: press ALT-F2 and type in kcontrol -- go for network settings10:35
dekiok thx10:35
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gringodeki: i suggest to install network-manager-kde10:36
nox-HandAnyone? I need to know ;)10:36
macdis it just me or system settings in kde is not quite kcontrol10:36
squillayup-ish10:37
macdand why on earth would they have both...10:37
squillamacd: after all these years you shold be amazed there's only two ....10:38
macdyour rite, typicly theres 10 of everything10:38
zorgluuuHit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages10:39
zorgluuu <- from apt-get update10:39
zorgluuubut still E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop10:39
zorgluuuany suggestion ?10:39
squillathings are much better now - ubuntu is one of the simplest/effective systems I've used10:39
uniqzorgluuu: kubuntu-desktop in is main, not universe.10:40
squillakanotix(sp?) may iprove on the package manager though10:40
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zorgluuuuniq, main is another repository ?10:40
macdI guess you could also jsut add the kde3.5 repo and install it10:40
uniqzorgluuu: add the line 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main'10:40
uniqzorgluuu: main is the main repository.10:41
macddeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main10:41
macdif you want kde3.510:41
macduniq: I think hes on breezy not dapper10:41
uniqmacd: oh.. very bad mistake.10:42
zorgluuui am on ubuntu 5.10 trying to pass it kubuntu 5,1910:42
uniqgood observation.10:42
zorgluuu1010:42
squillatype "cat /etc/issue" and we will know10:42
zorgluuuand new keyboard doesnt help ;910:42
uniqzorgluuu: please use 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main' not dapper.10:42
zorgluuuroot@jmehost2:/proc# cat /etc/issue10:43
zorgluuuUbuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l10:43
zorgluuuuniq, ok im new to ubuntu, where should i put that10:43
zorgluuu/etc/apt/something ?10:43
uniqzorgluuu: /etc/apt/sources.list10:43
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macddo you think kde3.5 would be better :P10:44
macdI do10:44
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zorgluuuok it worked :)10:45
zorgluuudownloading 430mbyte now10:45
macdheh10:45
zorgluuuthanks guys10:45
zorgluuudamn i hate new keyboard10:45
macdI think Im going to setup a local repo I feel bad having 6 or 7 machines hit the mains all the time10:45
zorgluuuwell they have a real fat pipe10:46
zorgluuui download a 1mbyte/s10:46
macdI did some contract work for a company that had about 110 dekstops running ubuntu, think of how much traffic they could save wan side from alocal repo10:46
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macdyeah@1meg/s, thats about typical for the repos10:47
macdmost people dont have over 1mbit :P10:47
zorgluuuFetched 142MB in 2m22s (996kB/s)10:47
zorgluuureal fat pipe :)10:47
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zorgluuuin fact they likely got a cache, because im in europe and the site is supposed to be in the us10:48
macdthey have local mirrors ya know10:49
macdreplce the us.bleh with your local mirror.blah10:49
zorgluuumacd, why dont they do the usual 'you are in europe as from the install, so i put eu.ubuntu.balbal'10:50
zorgluuui will change it10:50
zorgluuuok changing desktop10:50
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macdI hope he doesnt change it to eu, I dont know if thats the europe mirrors10:50
gringocan somebody take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13445   what sould I do now? :/10:50
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crimsungringo: try kubuntu dapper beta *2*10:52
_jeromeyou guys did a impressive job on the installation stuff10:52
crimsun(which already has 8.24.2)10:52
gringocrimsun: got it already10:52
crimsun8.24.8, rather10:52
crimsungringo: so why are you attempting to install the drivers?10:53
gringocrimsun: but I played around with xgl and now open gl is very slow10:53
_jeromebut 5.10 kubuntu is a lot less beatifull than 6,010:53
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_jeromestability takes its toll10:53
nox-Handsquilla, Hey, I did not find anything, I have a mate over, and am going to watch some TV now, so gotta go. Maybe tomorrow :) Laters!10:54
crimsungringo: there's no need to reinstall the drivers. Did you revert your symlink change?10:54
squillanox-Hand: Cheers :-)10:54
gringocrimsun: ahm uh *sigh* sorry I don't understand as I am a newbie :(10:55
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nox-Handsquilla, Downloading regular Kubuntu. Laters!10:55
crimsungringo: how did you enable Xgl?10:55
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gringocrimsun: installed a lot of packets including the restricted kernel modules10:56
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crimsungringo: right, but what did you do with the X Window System?10:57
gringocrimsun: I changed no configuration file if you mean that10:57
crimsungringo: did you follow a howto? If so, what's its url?10:58
gringocrimsun: i took some information from here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090 and some all over the web10:59
crimsunok, I'll look in a bit10:59
crimsun(phone call)10:59
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squillagringo: pastebin this file : /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:02
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hiasllanybody know where i can get the samr audio codec?11:03
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gringosquilla: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1344911:03
hiaslli have copied a 3gp file from my mobilephone. video works audio doesnt11:03
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DaSkreechIs there a kparted?11:18
jpatrickDaSkreech: I'm sorry to tell you: never heard of one11:19
DaSkreechIs there a blessed KDE partition manager?11:19
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gringore11:21
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gringomy opengl seems to work again :D11:21
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gringobut it amaroK is running i still have no sound in warzone2100 (i already switched to alsa)11:22
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Zerakwhere can i get libc libraries so i can compile a interface for nvidia drivers under dapper drake11:24
uniqinstall the 'build-essential' package.11:25
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uniqthere is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia11:26
zorgluuuq. how can i configure keyboard shortcut under kde ? like alt-f5 is goto desktop511:26
DaSkreechCtrl-F5 gores to Desktop 511:27
DaSkreechgoes11:27
DaSkreech!format11:27
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DaSkreech11:27
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zorgluuuds11:28
zorgluuuDaSkreech: yep but i want alt :)11:28
DaSkreechzorgluuu: try under accessibilty in the the System Settings11:29
Zerakwill try the first or do they keep the drivers uptodate when downloading with manager11:29
uniqzorgluuu: system settings -> regional & accessibility -> hotkeys -> shortcut schemes (tab)11:29
zorgluuuthanks11:29
Zerakgoing to restart and see, thank you guys, i got a lot of problems but i run a beta on the other hand =)11:29
DaSkreechBlast how do I parition and format in KDE/ :-(11:30
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uniqdaskreech: use qtparted. it's in the universe repository.11:31
DaSkreechqtparted11:31
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slow-motionhallo11:32
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squillahi11:35
beasthi Riddell11:36
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rUiSuso11:56
klarkinindeed11:57
rUiSuhow do i make a script that doesnt need the root password>?11:57
rUiSuhello?11:57
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klarkini prefer a blend of lazy linux(ubuntu) and ./compile from src11:58
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klarkini wish i could offer more11:59
h3sp4wnrUiSu: run the script with sudo and then it will run as root11:59
rUiSubut, the sudo asks me the root assword11:59
rUiSuand i need the crispt every time the machine is booted11:59
h3sp4wnrUiSu: it asks you for your password11:59
rUiSuno, because in that script i run 2 programs that need to be used as root12:00
h3sp4wnrUiSu: put the script in rcS.d with a relevant number - (If there is a better way someone tell me)12:00
rUiSuhm12:00
rUiSuthanks12:01
rUiSuin rcS.d?12:01
rUiSuok, ill try that12:01
rUiSuthx12:01
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