[12:02] <Hoobly> is there a system properties applet that tells you about your version of Ubuntu, etc like in Windows Control Panel | System?
[12:07] <Phleagor> uname -a
[12:08] <Hoobly> thx
[12:08] <Phleagor> but it doesn't tell you the ubuntu-version
[12:09] <Phleagor> you should know that
[12:09] <Phleagor> :)
[12:25] <Lorenzod> AARGH! Kaffeine is tearing at my sanity.
[12:30] <iNiku> yeah, too much caffeine will do that to you.
[12:40] <Lorenzod> iNiku: ha, ha..
[01:00] <TheFuzzball> hi, when I create a new app shortcut in Autostart it says: Could not save properties. You do not have sufficient access to write to /luke/.kde/Autostart/katapult.desktop., can I have some help with this please?
[01:05] <jma> Hi, I am wondering if KDE and gnome are using fd.o menu standard?
[01:06] <TheFuzzball> yea well, I'm still waiting for my question to be annswered
[01:06] <TheFuzzball> answered*
[01:06] <crimsun> jma: gnome is, not sure about kde, but I would presume so
[01:07] <crimsun> TheFuzzball: /luke or /home/luke?
[01:07] <TheFuzzball> crabstic: ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:07] <jma> crimsun, do you know where the applications.menu file is located? or how does gnome build up the menu tree?
[01:08] <crimsun> jma: /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu
[01:09] <crimsun> TheFuzzball: ~/.kde != /luke, though, assuming your user is 'luke'
[01:09] <jma> ahh, thanks a lot. It this the fd.o standard location?
[01:09] <crimsun> jma: you'll have to check the fd.o spec for that
[01:09] <jma> ok. thanks.
[01:09] <TheFuzzball> crabstic: when I say ~ I mean /home/luke yes
[01:09] <crimsun> (I don't know offhand, and only half my brain is here, sorry)
[01:10] <crimsun> TheFuzzball: what are the permissions on ~/.kde/Autostart/katapult.desktop?
[01:12] <TheFuzzball> crabstic: this is really wrong, if I run konqueror and it comes up using the web browser profile and I go to ~/.kde/Autostart and add an app the Autostart it works, but when I run kfmclient openProfile filemngr 'home:/luke' then it gives me that same error
[01:14] <TheFuzzball> crabstic: when using kfmclient openProfile filemngr 'home:/luke' when I right click and click Add app shortcut it says in permissions user: root group: root
[01:19] <_ubuntu> Now i test LiveCD Kunbutu :)
[01:32] <fyrmedic> How do I change the name of the network that Samba shares on i.e. Workgroup to Mshome?
[01:44] <bimberi> fyrmedic: /etc/samba/smb.conf - change the "workgroup =" setting
[01:48] <_ubuntu> soo kubunto live dosnt support anything higher then a 1024X768?
[01:48] <_ubuntu> well... the resolution
[01:52] <kubuntu_rocks> i can't get my users and groups module to load in the system config?
[01:55] <pedro> Hello everyone
[01:56] <pedro> I have some problem with skype
[01:56] <pedro> a sound problem
[01:57] <_ubuntu> is anyone in here that can help us?
[02:03] <HymnToLife> !tell _ubuntu about fixres
[02:03] <pedro> Well
[02:03] <pedro> I solved yet!
[02:24] <thevernat> anyone having problems installing dapper beta 2 64bit?  It tells me I don't have a root, even though I assigned a /
[02:26] <dark_light> what you mean by assign a / ? putting it on /etc/fstab ?
[02:26] <thevernat> no, when I do the partitions
[02:26] <thevernat> it has / /home swap
[02:27] <dark_light> i am using dapper flight 5 64bits and yes i am with some problems, but i am too lazy to check out what problems i am actually have (gnome isn't working. but kde from kubuntu and xfce from xubuntu are both fine :)
[02:27] <dark_light> thevernat: you are installing from a cd?
[02:27] <thevernat> yeah, it's on the live disc, there's an install option on the desktop
[02:28] <dark_light> oh well i have never used it
[02:29] <dark_light> but i think you have to tell ubuntu what partition you want to install. right? you might have to format it too
[02:29] <thevernat> I did
[02:30] <thevernat> and if I try to install basic ubuntu, it kacks my system and nothing will boot
[02:30] <thevernat> it's really weird
[02:31] <dark_light> oh man.. you really should report it on the.. the.. what is the bug tracking system of ubuntu?
[02:32] <Parkotron> Launchpad
[02:39] <BluesKaj_> kubuntu isn't ready for primetime on AMD64 pc's...too msny graphics probs
[02:55] <OPP> hi
[02:56] <OPP> what are the sys requierments for kubuntu
[02:58] <dark_light> OPP: maybe 256mb ram
[02:59] <OPP> what distro do you recommend for my laptop
[02:59] <dark_light> i don't know exactly but i heard that kubuntu runs faster than other kde-based distros
[02:59] <OPP> p3 1ghz
[02:59] <OPP> 256 ram
[02:59] <dark_light> OPP: xubuntu i think
[02:59] <dark_light> if you want performance
[02:59] <OPP> k
[02:59] <dark_light> my tip:install ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu in same distro and try them all
[03:00] <OPP> ok
[03:00] <OPP> what about debian?
[03:00] <dark_light> it's a good distro, but the sid is too broken and the stable is too old
[03:00] <dark_light> testing is both broken and old. :)
[03:00] <OPP> ahh
[03:01] <OPP> ill get this xubuntu
[03:01] <OPP> so whys it more effceint
[03:02] <dark_light> OPP: i used debian testing when sarge was testing. debian is a really good distro, but ubuntu is simply a better debian on my opinion
[03:02] <dark_light> OPP: xubuntu is faster because it uses xfce instead of kde (that kubuntu uses) and gnome (that plain ubuntu uses)
[03:02] <OPP> o
[03:02] <OPP> cool
[03:02] <OPP> but the applications are the same
[03:03] <dark_light> well, the initial set of application are different, but you can install any application with the package manager
[03:03] <OPP> ahh k
[03:03] <dark_light> xubuntu can't be installed alone i think
[03:03] <dark_light> you have to install a base system from ubuntu or kubuntu and install the xubuntu-desktop package
[03:04] <OPP> o
[03:04] <OPP> do you think kubuntu will be fine
[03:04] <OPP> without xubuntu
[03:04] <OPP> i kinda like KDE
[03:04] <dark_light> (ubuntu comes with ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu with kubuntu-desktop. but if you choose do not install these -desktop, you remain with a base system to do whatever you want. and you can install all these packages if you want)
[03:05] <dark_light> OPP: well, yes will be fine
[03:05] <OPP> o
[03:05] <OPP> then i think ill just stick with that
[03:06] <dark_light> xfce is very different from kde. it's fast, but maybe you will not like to use it. (but you could simply try it and then uninstall)
[03:06] <OPP> why
[03:06] <OPP> is it ugly
[03:06] <dark_light> well, see it yourself
[03:06] <dark_light> *searching the xubuntu page*
[03:07] <dark_light> ubotu: xubuntu?
[03:07] <ubotu> somebody said xubuntu was Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[03:07] <dark_light> :)
[03:09] <OPP> icky
[03:09] <OPP> ill stick with KDE
[03:09] <OPP> i mean do you think itll go at a reasonable rate
[03:09] <OPP> for processing apps
[03:10] <dark_light> OPP: it depends on wich kind of apps you will use
[03:11] <OPP> umm
[03:11] <OPP> mainly for video
[03:11] <OPP> and music
[03:11] <OPP> maybe firefox
[03:12] <OPP> VLC media player
[03:12] <dark_light> well on kubuntu konqueror is faster i think.. but i am not sure
[03:12] <dark_light> OPP: i think you will not have problems with performance
[03:13] <OPP> ok cool
[03:13] <OPP> i just bought this laptop on ebay :_D
[03:13] <OPP> it was 235 dollars lol
[03:13] <OPP> im going on this long road trip
[03:14] <dark_light> wow!:P
[03:14] <OPP> ya
[03:14] <OPP> im pretty pumped
[03:14] <OPP> ibm
[03:15] <dark_light> (what is pumped? english isn't my first language..)
[03:15] <OPP> excited
[03:15] <OPP> thrilled
[03:15] <OPP> ecstatic
[03:16] <dark_light> uhahuahuahua
[03:16] <dark_light> yeah
[03:16] <OPP> whats your first language
[03:16] <dark_light> portuguese
[03:16] <OPP> o
[03:16] <dark_light> i am from brazil:)
[03:16] <OPP> i speak spanish.. not portuguese
[03:16] <dark_light> you are from wich country?
[03:16] <OPP> united states
[03:16] <OPP> i just know some spanish from school
[03:17] <dark_light> hm yeah:)
[03:17] <dark_light> i learned english on school, but mainly talking over internet.. just like now :P
[03:17] <OPP> what media players come with kubuntu
[03:17] <dark_light> i think amarok
[03:18] <dark_light> yes, amarok
[03:18] <OPP> that for music
[03:18] <dark_light> well, yes
[03:18] <OPP> and then is there a video player
[03:19] <dark_light> but ubuntu and kubuntu don't comes with mp3 codecs, you have to install it yourself
[03:19] <OPP> ahh
[03:19] <dark_light> hmm
[03:20] <OPP> apt-get install win32codecs?
[03:20] <dark_light> w32
[03:20] <dark_light> :)
[03:20] <OPP> huh
[03:20] <dark_light> OPP: it comes with kaffeine too
[03:21] <dark_light> i think both amarok and kaffeine plays music and videos, i don't know the difference
[03:21] <OPP> ahh
[03:22] <OPP> whered you get the codecs?
[03:22] <dark_light> OPP: kaffeine is intended to play videos
[03:23] <dark_light> i got it with apt
[03:23] <OPP> o
[03:23] <dark_light> aptitude install name-of-the-packages
[03:23] <OPP> cool
[03:23] <dark_light> i don't remember all
[03:23] <dark_light> (aptitude and apt-get does the same work)
[03:23] <OPP> maybe ill get distro with all codec i need already in it
[03:24] <dark_light> you can install them with synaptic and other graphical package managers too
[03:24] <dark_light> OPP: Hmmmm.. ubuntu is meant to be free software. mp3 is patented
[03:24] <dark_light> that's why mp3 codecs don't come with ubuntu
[03:24] <OPP> o
[03:25] <OPP> do you know if they cope with any distro?
[03:25] <dark_light> what is cope?
[03:25] <dark_light> ubotu: codecs?
[03:25] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[03:26] <dark_light> !easysource
[03:26] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:26] <dark_light> ubotu: media?
[03:26] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dark_light
[03:26] <OPP> cool
[03:26] <OPP> i meant
[03:26] <OPP> do any distros COME with the codecs
[03:26] <OPP> already on them
[03:27] <dark_light> OPP: distros that don't bother on being totally free comes with codecs
[03:27] <OPP> o
[03:27] <dark_light> i don't know many other distros, i used only a few distros
[03:29] <dark_light> OPP: on breezy there are a easy-guide-to-install (a set of apt-get's), http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[03:29] <dark_light> on dapper i think you will have to look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Media/Codecs and look for specific codecs :(
[03:30] <OPP> cool
[03:30] <dark_light> ps: well, the last page don't points to any package names
[03:31] <OPP> thats all i have to type in
[03:31] <dark_light> .. well, installing lame you will have mp3 codecs of course (lame is a mp3 encoder)
[03:31] <OPP> and then amarok and stuff will work fine
[03:32] <OPP> i dont need to like compile it
[03:32] <dark_light> OPP: on breezy, yes
[03:32] <dark_light> on dapper, not sure
[03:32] <dark_light> no, you don't need to compile the codecs
[03:32] <OPP> what is breezy
[03:32] <dark_light> breezy is the current version of ubuntu (and kubuntu ..)
[03:33] <dark_light> dapper will be released on june
[03:33] <dark_light> (i think)
[03:33] <OPP> o
[03:33] <OPP> cool
[03:34] <dark_light> dapper currently is beta.. so i think you should not install it now, unless you want to try it and help the ubuntu team to develop it (sending bugs and that stuff)
[03:35] <OPP> ya
[03:35] <OPP> on that site you gave me
[03:35] <OPP> it says
[03:35] <OPP> MP3 is supported
[03:36] <OPP> whatever i get it\
[03:37] <dark_light> yes mp3 is supported. it's on the main repository
[03:37] <dark_light> maybe it comes now with the cd
[03:37] <dark_light> i am not sure
[03:38] <dark_light> on breezy it don't comes with regular installation, but the ubuntu team supports it
[03:38] <dark_light> on dapper i don't know if it comes with regular installation
[03:39] <dark_light> OPP: the main repository is the main site you download things with apt-get/aptitude
[03:39] <OPP> so
[03:39] <OPP> ubuntu has codecs installed
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hey, OPP. :P
[03:40] <OPP> well hell CBM
[03:40] <OPP> i was looking for you
[03:40] <dark_light> by default? on breezy, only free codecs by default (like ogg). on dapper, not sure
[03:40] <OPP> hello*
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, to get non-free codecs on Kubuntu you'll need to install win32 codecs
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> Which, IIRC is 'sudo apt-get install win32codecs', but I'm not sure since it doesn't work on my amd64 system.
[03:41] <dark_light> i think ogg is a better codec than mp3 (specially because it'1s free). that's why i converted all my mp3 to ogg with mp32ogg script :)
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> That loses you quality :P
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> I personally use MP3 because it's more universal. :)
[03:41] <dark_light> really? oh well :P
[03:41] <OPP> transcoding music files always loses you quality
[03:42] <dark_light> CheeseBurgerMan: it works on amd64 fine!
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> Really? I read that they didn't. :o
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> !restrictedformats
[03:42] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:42] <dark_light> maybe you have to force the installation of 32bits codecs
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah
[03:42] <dark_light> Hum..
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> That was for me -- I wanted the link. :P
[03:42] <thom__> that sucked
[03:43] <thom__> just went through total hell trying to get on the internet
[03:43] <dark_light> CheeseBurgerMan: i don't remember the details, but the fact is that i am on a amd64 machine and mp3 works fine here (on both dapper and breezy)
[03:43] <sistar> I can't play DVD's our audio cd's! Anyone wanna chat about it?
[03:43] <thom__> me too
[03:43] <thom__> me
[03:44] <thom__> one problem is all the cd players over ride each other
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: tell sistar about restrictedformats
[03:44] <dark_light> OPP: look the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for see how install mp3 codecs on ubuntu/kubuntu
[03:45] <thom__> i cant play any of my cds, how are they restricted. I know dvds are?
[03:45] <dark_light> here i can play regular audio cds....
[03:45] <thom__> i guess I can play mp3s though
[03:45] <dark_light> but i tried only on ubuntu.. with that default player. and it was on breezy. o.o
[03:45] <brandon_> how can i get konq to generate thumbnail previews of movies?
[03:47] <OPP> thanks cbm
[03:47] <thom__> im using dapper though, thats my prblem
[03:47] <OPP> so its easy to install those codecs
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> thom__: Have you tried #ubuntu+1
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> OPP: Yeah, just download a deb and install it.
[03:47] <thom__> forgot where i was, sory
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's fine. I just don't know. ;)
[03:48] <thom__> i started from xubuntu also
[03:49] <thom__> then installed kubuntu-desktop because I wanted some wireless gui after i changed locations
[03:49] <OPP> i think ill use kubuntu then
[03:49] <OPP> aslong as its easy to install stuff
[03:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> OPP: Good choice, although it's the same for any debian based distro. :P
[03:50] <OPP> cool
[03:50] <OPP> CBM do you setup the sudo info during install?
[03:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, sudo just lets you run things as root with your password. And since you setup your password during install, yes.
[03:51] <OPP> k
[03:51] <OPP> cool
[03:53] <sistar> okay just had a look at the page on restricted formats, that's doesn't seem the prob I already have libdvdread3 happening
[03:53] <sistar> however
[03:54] <OPP> cbm do i just do that apt-get "whatevercodeciwant" and itll download it for me? and then i just open the program and walah
[03:54] <sistar> I've never been able to play dvd's... cd's play in kcd, but with no sound... but lately it's been worse
[03:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> Look at the restricted formats page, OPP. There's a deb you have to download and manually install
[03:55] <OPP> im sorry
[03:55] <OPP> what is
[03:55] <OPP> a deb
[03:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> Debian package
[03:55] <OPP> o
[03:55] <OPP> ok
[03:55] <OPP> i dont know how to compile :-D
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'sudo apt-get build-essential' (once), then use './configure && make && sudo make install'
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P
[03:56] <OPP> cool
[03:57] <sistar> I've been getting the error The file or folder media:/scd0 does not exist.
[03:59] <sistar> which seems to suggest it's not mounting properly, but Kscd still pops up and starts playing tracks I can't hear, and kaffine says it can't load the dvd title info
[04:00] <sistar> By the way I'm using a firewire drive, since the dvd rom in my imac is stuffed!!
[04:01] <dark_light> sistar: type mount without parameters and paste it on http://pastebin.com
[04:01] <dark_light> and paste here the url
[04:02] <dark_light> sistar: i need to know if /dev/scd0 is mounted (if it's really the file device of your dvd player)
[04:03] <sistar> yep...
[04:03] <sistar> erm... mount without parameters hey??
[04:06] <OPP> whats that deb i need cbm
[04:06] <sistar> Dark_light-->i've been so spoilt by fancy guis that I've forgoten how to do that
[04:07] <OPP> before i do the sudo apt-get w32codecs
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> OPP: You dont do that, I was wrong.
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> Let me try to find it.
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[04:09] <OPP> what do i do with that
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Install it.
[04:09] <OPP> and ill have the codecs?
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb'
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes
[04:09] <OPP> sweet
[04:09] <OPP> what codecs are included in that
[04:10] <sistar> anyone able to walk me through mounting without parameters
[04:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dunno, I haven't needed them. :P
[04:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> I can play MP3 without it, and that's what I need. :)
[04:10] <OPP> what about divx
[04:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> I don't know, haven't tried it.
[04:11] <OPP> what did you use for mp3
[04:11] <OPP> so dont use this site
[04:11] <OPP> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:11] <OPP> at all?
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> It played once I installed the xine engine for amarok
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Go ahead and use it, I just don't know what codecs you get with that.
[04:12] <OPP> ahh
[04:12] <OPP> but if i do use that
[04:12] <OPP> i need that package first
[04:12] <OPP> correct?
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes.
[04:13] <sistar> dark_light--> I don't know how to mount it without parameters....Wouldn't I have to somehow avoid the drive mounting autoatically?
[04:13] <OPP> and all i do with that package is
[04:13] <OPP> type in
[04:13] <OPP> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> yes
[04:14] <OPP> do i put it on my desktop
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Doesn't matter
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> You just have to have the console in the same dir as the deb
[04:14] <OPP> ahh
[04:14] <OPP> ok
[04:14] <sistar> I have the feeling i've been given up on :(
[04:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> sistar: I don't know what to do, hence me not helping.
[04:15] <sistar> thanks CBM
[04:16] <dark_light> sistar: oh, sorry
[04:16] <dark_light> simply type mount on terminal
[04:16] <dark_light> first m, then o, then u, then n, then t.. and then hit return key
[04:17] <dark_light> :)
[04:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[04:17] <sistar> so.. mount /dev/scd0  yeah?
[04:17] <dark_light> i was just wondering if /dev/scd0 is alredy monted or not
[04:18] <dark_light> mount without params shows it to you
[04:18] <sistar> I thought you had to create folders b4 hand and stuff... shows how long since I've done things in the command line!!
[04:18] <dark_light> but you can try to mount it and, if there is no errors, it is begin to be mounted
[04:18] <dark_light> it begins
[04:19] <dark_light> all roads lead to command line
[04:19] <dark_light> :)
[04:22] <OPP> cbm
[04:23] <OPP> i dont think i need that deb
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then don't install it. :P
[04:23] <OPP> i think i can just do apt-get install w32codecs
[04:23] <OPP> and get the divx codec
[04:23] <OPP> whats that deb supposed to do?
[04:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> OPP: Run 'sudo apt-cache search win32codecs'
[04:24] <OPP> k
[04:24] <OPP> i found what i need
[04:24] <OPP> nvm
[04:25] <sistar> dark_light--> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only, but konqueror still doesn't think it exist... and I can't find it in the command line
[04:25] <dark_light> sistar: hmmmm
[04:25] <OPP> check your pm cbm
[04:25] <dark_light> sistar: i think you can access it on /media/scd0 instead of media:/scd0
[04:25] <dark_light> or /mnt/scd0
[04:25] <sistar> I've checked out /mnt   /cdrom  /media
[04:26] <dark_light> or type mount to see where it's mounted
[04:26] <dark_light> hmmmmmmmm
[04:26] <dark_light> sistar: try modify the configuration of kaffeine
[04:26] <dark_light> here it's configured to look /dev/hdc when playing dvd's
[04:27] <sistar> okay it's mounted to /media/cdrom1
[04:27] <dark_light> (well, actually i don't use kaffeine. but you got the idea:)
[04:27] <sistar> why would konqueror be looking in scd0??
[04:28] <dark_light> probably media:/scd0 points to the place /dev/scd0 is mounted, that is, /media/cdrom1
[04:29] <dark_light> but it's not about configuring konqueror i think, it's about configuring you cd player to play things from the right device
[04:29] <OPP> so
[04:30] <OPP> who has put on the w32 codecs here?
[04:30] <OPP> i still dont know the easiest way to do it
[04:34] <rUiSu> hi
[04:34] <rUiSu> umm, i have a problem with the network
[04:34] <rUiSu> in breezy
[04:34] <rUiSu> previously on my other distro i used ndiwrapper and dhcpcd to activate the network
[04:35] <rUiSu> but it seems kubuntu doesnt have the dhcpcd, righ?
[04:35] <sistar> dark_light--> ok, there doesn't seem to be an option to configure where kaffeine plays dvd's from. and telling vlc to play from /media/cdrom1 does nothing
[04:40] <rUiSu> hello?
[04:43] <bimberi> rUiSu: no, it doesn't install a dhcp server by default
[04:43] <rUiSu> ook
[04:43] <rUiSu> because i was searching in the advance package installer, and i could not fin dhcp
[04:43] <rUiSu> mm
[04:44] <rUiSu> so, what sould i do?
[04:46] <rUiSu> or is it on the universe?
[04:46] <bimberi> !info dhcp3-server
[04:46] <ubotu> dhcp3-server: (DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.2-1ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 505 kB, Installed size: 1064 kB
[04:46] <bimberi> rUiSu: there it is ^^^^^
[04:47] <rUiSu> mm
[04:47] <rUiSu> i just saw a forum coment that a guy removed the dhcp3 and dhcpclient and installed dhcpcd from the unvierse and worked....
[04:47] <rUiSu> mm
[04:48] <rUiSu> so, ill try
[04:48] <rUiSu> ok
[04:48] <rUiSu> thanks everyone
[04:48] <rUiSu> :)
[04:48] <bimberi> rUiSu: ymmv, it should work, it is in the main repository so has support from the core devs
[04:56] <Tsed> Hmm.  Wondering if anyone could give me a hand here... using the Dapper Beta, trying to get the audiocd kioslave (and thus, kaudiocreator) to work.
[04:57] <Tsed> When I access audiocd:/ with my user, I get a list of the folders (ogg, flac, etc), but they're empty.  Running konq through kdesu brings up the proper listing, so it's obviously a permissions issue...
[04:57] <Tsed> Just not sure *what* permissions. :)
[05:22] <NeoChaosX> knetworkmanager's in main. wonder if it'll be included on a default install
[05:25] <dark_light> sistar: sorry, i read it only now. well you could tell vlc to play from /dev/scd0
[05:26] <dark_light> sistar: the cd player reads the raw data from cd instead of read any wrapper that mount could make
[05:34] <ruisu> hello
[05:34] <ruisu> im currently running kubuntu on a wireless machine :D
[05:40] <OPP> hello
[05:40] <OPP> is it easy to download codecs
[05:40] <robotgeek> OPP, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:41] <OPP> ya i looked at that
[05:41] <OPP> is it true theres some deb filei  need
[05:41] <OPP> or can i get around that
[05:43] <robotgeek> OPP: check pm :)
[05:44] <OPP> cool
[05:44] <OPP> does that mean windows32 codecs do inclue divx
[05:44] <OPP> or only include like wma
[05:44] <OPP> and wmv
[05:45] <thoreauputic> w32codecs include a bunch of stuff - just install them
[05:46] <OPP> ok
[05:46] <OPP> seems easy enough
[05:50] <OPP> does kubuntu come with mplayer
[05:50] <Seantater> OPP: not to my knowledge
[05:50] <Seantater> OPP: try xine instead
[05:50] <OPP> k
[05:50] <OPP> can that play most codecs?
[05:50] <Seantater> OPP: if you have problems with formats, enable multiverse and install libxine-extracodecs
[05:50] <Seantater> OPP: not most
[05:51] <Seantater> OPP: unless you install that library
[05:51] <Seantater> OPP: because many are proprietary
[05:51] <Seantater> OPP: but with that library, it plays just about everything
[05:52] <corey> whoops
[05:52] <OPP> o
[05:52] <Seantater> corey: hello -- again
[05:52] <corey> lol
[05:52] <corey> anyone here use kbear?
[05:52] <OPP> i thought win32 was the one i should go
[05:52] <OPP> get*
[05:52] <Seantater> corey: isn;t that an ftp client?
[05:52] <corey> yea
[05:52] <Seantater> corey: ftp clients for kde are unnecessary
[05:53] <Seantater> corey: konqueror has that built-in
[05:53] <corey> i dont use kde :P
[05:53] <Seantater> corey: then go ahead and use kbear -- but all ftp clients pale in comparison to KIO-ftp
[05:54] <corey> is that gui?
[05:54] <Seantater> corey: nope -- it's a library that is built into all kde programs that access the internet
[05:54] <corey> eh
[05:54] <Seantater> corey: how it looks is the program's decision
[05:55] <Seantater> corey: it works really well
[05:55] <corey> oh well
[05:55] <Seantater> corey: but since you're not a kde user - -I won;t push ya -- so how does kbear work anyway?
[05:55] <corey> kbear works im just having an issue or two
[05:55] <corey> i actually like it i cant figure a thing or two out
[05:55] <Seantater> corey: what issues?
[05:56] <corey> well
[05:56] <corey> it has single click to open the file
[05:56] <Seantater> okay --
[05:56] <Seantater> and --
[05:56] <corey> trying to figure out how to set it as double click
[05:56] <Seantater> that's really not that big a deal -- anything big?
[05:56] <corey> hrm
[05:56] <corey> i cant figure out how to download/upload haha
[05:56] <OPP> is it easy to install codecs
[05:57] <OPP> like does it work
[05:57] <OPP> and easy to do
[05:57] <Seantater> OPP: yes, really easy
[05:57] <Seantater> corey: hum -- read the manual?
[05:57] <OPP> k
[05:57] <OPP> ill do it
[05:57] <OPP> ill install kubuntu on my laptop
[05:57] <corey> i would
[05:57] <corey> but their site is down ;/
[05:58] <Seantater> OPP: no -- I mean kbear's manual
[05:58] <Seantater> OPP: sorry -- did not mean you
[05:58] <Seantater> OPP: sry
[05:58] <Seantater> corey: no -- I mean kbear's manual
[05:58] <corey> yes
[05:58] <corey> its on their web site
[05:59] <corey> and its down
[05:59] <Seantater> corey: no -- no  -- most kde apps come with a manual in the help menu -- it's part of the documentation you downloaded you installed it
[05:59] <corey> nope
[05:59] <Seantater> corey: no manual
[06:00] <Seantater> corey: googled it? I'm not much past here -- never used it..
[06:00] <corey> their sites down!
[06:00] <corey> :P
[06:00] <Seantater> corey: c'mon -- Google's not doen -- read a copy somewhere else, read google's cache -- etc
[06:03] <Seantater> corey: sorry for being short
[06:03] <Seantater> corey: I just don;t know much on this topic
[06:04] <corey> lol
[06:04] <corey> i dont think i like this kbear
[06:04] <corey> its setup good but the execution isnt vry good
[06:04] <corey> maybe i should install kubuntu desktop?
[06:04] <macd> corey, what windowmanager are you using?
[06:05] <OPP> whats the best video playe
[06:05] <OPP> vlc
[06:05] <OPP> or
[06:05] <OPP> mplayer
[06:05] <macd> I prefer mplayer
[06:05] <corey> im using ubuntu w/ gnome
[06:05] <macd> try gftp
[06:07] <macd> its in universe repos
[06:07] <corey> i did
[06:07] <corey> i dont like it
[06:07] <macd> how much easier do you need?
[06:07] <corey> lol
[06:07] <macd> or what features are you looking for>
[06:07] <corey> when your uploading/downloading/editing a lot gftp is a pain
[06:07] <corey> i like the feautr on kbear when i can edit the file on the server..but i cant figure out how to download files for the life of me
[06:07] <macd> well, if your editing uploading/downloading often you might want to consider learning a lil shell scripting, or maybee some perl to automate the process
[06:08] <corey> nah its not that its just gftp is a pain in continulously uploading - its not very customizable
[06:15] <hybrid> rue
[06:46] <corey> where is the ftp client in konqueror?
[06:46] <robotgeek> corey: konqueror
[06:46] <corey> ?
[06:47] <robotgeek> corey: konqueror is an excellent ftp/sftp client
[06:47] <robotgeek> corey: type ftp://ftp.example.com in konq
[06:49] <corey> bleh
[06:49] <corey> id like a standalone ft client
[06:50] <robotgeek> well, kbear is one. i just use konqueror, it works well for me :)
[06:51] <corey> i liked kbear except i couldnt figure out how to download files :-/
[06:52] <robotgeek> with konq, you just drag and drop :)
[06:53] <corey> true- but thats about it
[07:02] <Lynoure> robotgeek: my konqueror starts automatically playing .avi files if I click on them, so is copy-paste then the only way to sftp those files?
[07:04] <robotgeek> Lynoure: yeah, i think copy paste is the way to go :)
[07:05] <Lynoure> robotgeek: ok, thank.
[07:06] <Lynoure> I'm new to kde so I'm sometimes a bit puzzled by it, but so far quite happy with it
[07:06] <robotgeek> Lynoure: i learn something new about KDE everyday :)
[08:12] <_patrick> Pretty new to Kubuntu. I'm finding it interesting trying to install programs.
[08:13] <_patrick> Is the debian files the easiest to install?
[08:14] <propagandhi> _patrick: matter of opinion
[08:14] <_patrick> Well, I'm thought debian files were more self installing?
[08:15] <propagandhi> still, matter of opinion, RPM's are also 'self-installing' so to speak, the APT system is probably the best package management system as a whole
[08:16] <_patrick> APT. How do I go about using that. Ark tries to take over on minge.
[08:16] <propagandhi> so you're not using kubuntu
[08:16] <toomai> good morning all
[08:17] <_patrick> Yes, I am using Kubuntu, but Ark does pop up. I use terminal when I can. But, I'd like a simpler format.
[08:19] <_patrick> Does APT come with Kubuntu, or do I need to download it?
[08:19] <scheuri> apt is included
[08:20] <_patrick> OK. So  APT being used to extract RPM's can be easier than the debian files I've been working with?
[08:23] <_patrick> OK guys I got to go. I'll have more time tomorrow. Thanks.
[09:05] <jackye> i have two network cards in my linux pc one connected to my hub and the other to my modem i want my dads windows pc to have internet but not sure the dns i need to put in
[09:05] <jackye> my friend put the numbers in his windows computer before and i dont know which to put in
[09:10] <propagandhi> jackye: put in the address of the router
[09:11] <jackye> i dont know what it is
[09:11] <propagandhi> well, whats the ip address of ur modem/router
[09:11] <jackye> my ip
[09:11] <propagandhi> it could be something like 192.168.0.1 or 10.0.0.1 or similar
[09:11] <jackye> how can i find out?
[09:12] <propagandhi> does ur network run dhcp, or does ur router at least
[09:12] <dell500> can you have multiple instances of kaffiene with xine?
[09:13] <jackye> no
[09:13] <jackye> it does not
[09:13] <propagandhi> well, are u assigning ur ip adresses statically then
[09:14] <jackye> i dont know
[09:14] <propagandhi> ok, so it must be dhcp
[09:14] <jackye> i am using rc.firewall
[09:14] <propagandhi> type ifconfig
[09:14] <jackye> ye i did though
[09:14] <propagandhi> what is ur ip address
[09:14] <jackye> zsh: command not found: ifconfig
[09:15] <propagandhi> jackye: type in route
[09:15] <jackye> ok i did ifconfig in root and it worked
[09:16] <propagandhi> what does the command 'route' show for the 'default' entry
[09:16] <jackye> could this be the dns 172.16.173.0
[09:17] <propagandhi> do that 'route' command
[09:17] <propagandhi> and tell me what it says for 'default'
[09:17] <jackye> http://pastebin.com/699546
[09:17] <cyme> anybody who can help me update the kernel
[09:18] <propagandhi> jackye: are u running linux under vmware
[09:18] <jackye> propagandhi: no
[09:18] <jackye> propagandhi: i do have vmware installed with windows though
[09:19] <propagandhi> jackye: are u near the windows box
[09:19] <jackye> yes it is in the other room
[09:19] <propagandhi> go to the command on the windows box and type ipconfig /all
[09:19] <jackye> dad is sleeping though
[09:19] <propagandhi> ok, well that wont work then will it
[09:20] <jackye> want me to do it in vmware?
[09:21] <jackye> clear
[09:21] <propagandhi> jackye: ur intention is to use ur linux box as a gateway/firewall right?
[09:22] <jackye> yes it already is
[09:22] <jackye> i lost the numbers that were in my dads windows box
[09:22] <jackye> and it has been so long
[09:22] <propagandhi> ok, so in that case, you can set ur dads machine to use ur ip address as his dns server, and it will query ur pc for DNS
[09:23] <jackye> yes yes yes
[09:23] <jackye> i just need to find the dns
[09:23] <propagandhi> but ur pc has working dns right?
[09:23] <jackye> yes
[09:23] <propagandhi> so just point ur dads primary dns to ur machine
[09:24] <jackye> you think this is the # 172.16.173.0?
[09:24] <jackye> for my dns
[09:24] <jackye> my dad is to stupid to run linux
[09:24] <propagandhi> no i dont think so
[09:24] <propagandhi> he doesnt need to run linux
[09:24] <propagandhi> all I'm saying is to point his dns at ur machine
[09:24] <jackye> yah i'm just saying
[09:24] <propagandhi> and ur machine will handle the request
[09:25] <jackye> right
[09:25] <jackye> u know in windows there is like 5 places to put numbers
[09:25] <jackye> well the last 2 i don't know what to put anymore
[09:25] <jackye> i'm thinkin it might be 172.16.173.0
[09:25] <propagandhi> jackye: i dont think so
[09:26] <propagandhi> jackye: in fact I can verify it isn't
[09:26] <jackye> propagandhi: how do you think i can get the number then?
[09:26] <jackye> alright
[09:26] <jackye> no need to verify
[09:26] <propagandhi> jackye: why dont u just try what I've suggested
[09:27] <jackye> yes, but i need to know my primary dns
[09:28] <jackye> i know i'm not the sharpest knife in the toolbox
[09:28] <jackye> sf seems to be back up
[09:28] <jackye> that going down is every man on linuxs worst nightmare
[09:28] <jackye> haha
[09:29] <propagandhi> jackye: if ur linux gateway is working fine with dns, all u need to do is set ur dads machine to look to urs for dns, that should work
[09:32] <jackye> i'm trying to set it up on vmware for test, and its not working man
[09:32] <jackye> i still don't understand what i put for dns settings
[09:36] <cyme> how can i update the kernel
[09:36] <cyme> iam newbie at this so
[09:42] <jackeye> hey buddy i'm back sorry
[09:42] <jackeye> so anyway i really don't get it, what to put in under dns settings
[09:42] <jackeye> where do i find the numbers
[09:43] <jackeye> on my kabuntu box
[09:43] <jackeye> *kubuntu*
[09:47] <cyme> how can i update the kernel
[09:52] <jackeye> its pretty hard
[09:52] <jackeye> i've been running linux for some years stilll haven't came close tto figuring it out
[09:53] <scheuri> jackeye...are you connected to a router or modem or in a lan?
[09:54] <jackeye> router
[09:54] <scheuri> cyme...updates are available with synaptic or the command line
[09:54] <scheuri> jackeye...so, your PC and the router in the network, right?
[09:54] <jackeye> yes!
[09:55] <scheuri> jackeye...your router is NOT configured to give your PC an IP adresse?
[09:55] <jackeye> no no no
[09:55] <jackeye> my linux is up and fine
[09:55] <scheuri> cyme...you usually dont get a new kernel WITHIN a realese (such as 5.10 or 6.06)
[09:55] <scheuri> ah..
[09:55] <jackeye> just need to put in my dns on my dads windows
[09:56] <jackeye> and don't know the numbers to put at the bottom, forgot them
[09:56] <scheuri> ahhhhh
[09:56] <scheuri> well, either you check the homepage of your provider (they list them somehwere) or you make a nslookup at your linux box and write down the server that reponse
[09:59] <jackeye> woah i have dns on my computer setup on here
[09:59] <jackeye> how do i do the ns look up?
[09:59] <jackeye> i don't think i need the ns? name server?
[10:01] <scheuri> jackeye...you have a DNS running on your linux box?
[10:01] <scheuri> ns=nameserver...dns is a domain name server...it is what you need
[10:02] <jackeye> yes
[10:02] <jackeye> yes, i need domain name server
[10:03] <scheuri> is the first yes the answer to the question "you have a dns running on your linux box")
[10:07] <jackeye> yes
[10:09] <scheuri> well, okay...last question...is your dads pc connected to YOUR linux box or to the router (either direct or through hub or switch)?
[10:10] <jackeye> scheuri: its going right into the hub with the network cable
[10:10] <scheuri> jackeye...and then from the hub to the router, yes?
[10:10] <roniez> then he needs the ip of the router...
[10:10] <roniez> as a dns server.
[10:11] <scheuri> not quite...the router is the GATEWAY...but the dns are from the ISP itself
[10:11] <roniez> yea, but for the "local" network to function he needs to set the dns ip to the router.
[10:11] <cyme> scheuri: but i need help with the one i have downloaded
[10:11] <cyme> the kernel
[10:11] <jackeye> its already set i just need to know how to get it!
[10:11] <roniez> jackeye: what do u mean "how to" get it?
[10:12] <scheuri> cyme...oh, I see...well, sorry...can't help you there...
[10:12] <roniez> just check inside ur router.
[10:12] <jackeye> ok with what command? my linux is the router
[10:12] <scheuri> ahhhh..
[10:12] <scheuri> essential information...:)
[10:13] <cyme> it start to bugging me that i bought transgamingaccount and every game is freezeing every 10second
[10:13] <jackeye> cyme: thats why its so cheap
[10:14] <cyme> true :D
[10:15] <cyme> what dist is recomended for cedega
[10:18] <jackeye> well i have my linux with 2 network cards 1 connected to the modem 1 conected to the hub and from the hub to my dads computer
[10:21] <scheuri> jackeye...then your linux box DNS need to be a fordwarder...and your dads gateway is the ip of your linux box and dads dns is the ip of your linux box as well...
[10:22] <roniez> the IP of ur computer is your dads DNS server he should put in.
[10:22] <jackeye> no my dad has a dell
[10:22] <roniez> and he should also put ur IP within the "default" gateway.-
[10:22] <jackeye> j/k
[10:22] <jackeye> yah, i know how to fill in the first three
[10:22] <roniez> your dad is gonna connect thru ur computer right?
[10:22] <jackeye> but its the dns settings
[10:22] <jackeye> Yes..
[10:23] <roniez> yea, put ur computers ip on ur dads computer as a dns server.
[10:23] <jackeye> k
[10:23] <jackeye> i don't recall doing that b4, when i had it filled out, but old age is coming on me
[10:23] <roniez> and if ur computer is setup correct, he should be able to connect now.
[10:23] <jackeye> lol....if i don't get this working i'll probably be thrown out
[10:24] <jackeye> only thing  keeping me here, is keeping his computer online
[10:24] <roniez> hahah
[10:26] <roniez> can anybody tell me how to forward x11?
[10:26] <roniez> to a windows computer, with out using cygwin.. i hate cygwin.
[10:27] <scheuri> roniez...for working like vnc? i recommend freeNX
[10:27] <roniez> ok.
[10:27] <roniez> can u tell me a little about it?
[10:28] <scheuri> freeNX is fast and encrypted (if configured), there is a good how-to in the ubuntu-wiki
[10:28] <scheuri> you need to install a client on windows...
[10:28] <scheuri> and the server on the...well...server...;)...the machine you like to work on
[10:28] <scheuri> (worksonly on linux though)
[10:30] <scheuri> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[10:30] <jackeye> anyone ever used open paste on there website b4?
[10:30] <belp> hi folks. have a quick question about Adept
[10:31] <belp> just installed dapper beta 2 and adept has 100+ updates available.
[10:31] <scheuri> belp...aye...it is beta...they are really working on it
[10:31] <belp> should i just be picking and choosing or download the whole lot?  i don't want to break anything.
[10:31] <scheuri> belp...then download all of it
[10:31] <scheuri> belp...it downloads and updates only stuff yo have already installet
[10:31] <scheuri> installed
[10:32] <belp> yeah, that i noticed.  just upgrades really.
[10:32] <scheuri> make sure you make a "dist-upgrade" instead of an "upgrade" alone
[10:32] <belp> aye, got that. thanks!
[10:32] <Kabal> How can I disable Bluetooth from starting?? (kubuntu 5.10)
[10:32] <scheuri> np
[10:33] <jackeye> scheuri: that didn't work....i really don't know what to put under dns info
[10:33] <jackeye> i tried 192.168.0.1
[10:33] <jackeye> no luck
[10:34] <scheuri> jackeye...well...your dads pc is connected through your linux box (second network card)...this is a seperate network....you need to configured it
[10:34] <scheuri> jackeye: ...IP fordwarding at your box, dns-request forwarding, your box and the router are one network and your box and dads box is a network
[10:35] <scheuri> aarrr....can't spell anyore
[10:35] <jackeye> scheuri: ok yes, but what command do i type to get the dns
[10:35] <scheuri> see....there is an m missing
[10:35] <scheuri> ;)
[10:35] <jackeye> the dns server addresses
[10:35] <scheuri> jackeye...command? on your linux box?
[10:35] <jackeye> yes
[10:35] <scheuri> jackeye...is your dns on your box configured and running?
[10:36] <jackeye> yes
[10:37] <jackeye> i assume so
[10:37] <jackeye> it worked b4 i directly set him up to the modem the other day, and took out the numbers
[10:37] <scheuri> well, now your box is the router...you need to configure your box like a router...that is not that simple
[10:38] <scheuri> dads pc -> your box -> modem
[10:38] <jackeye> man o man
[10:39] <jackeye> a long time ago, i got dns running, what kinda command can i type to find it?
[10:39] <jackeye> the number like 255.255.0.1
[10:39] <jackeye> or something along them lines
[10:39] <jackeye> my box is configured its done been working b4
[10:39] <Kabal> Can anybody explain to me how to disable bluetooth from starting up? (Kubuntu 5.10)
[10:41] <macd> Kabal: in Kcontrol, KDE Services
[10:42] <macd> KDE Componets, sorry
[10:43] <Kabal> macd:  I see.. but no bluetooth yet..
[10:45] <Kabal> macd: does bluetooth appear in Load-on-Demand services or startup services?
[10:47] <macd> on my system, startup.
[10:47] <macd> laptop w/bluetooth built-in for reference
[10:48] <Kabal> hmm oke well it's not there.. so can't change anything there..
[10:48] <Kabal> thanx anyway :)
[10:48] <macd> I assume youve tried the forums?
[10:48] <Kabal> yes
[10:48] <Kabal> but I've got a problem that is solved half I guess...
[10:49] <jackeye> # Generated by dhcpcd for interface eth0
[10:49] <jackeye> search gwi.net
[10:49] <jackeye> nameserver 207.5.171.1
[10:49] <jackeye> nameserver 207.5.128.9
[10:49] <jackeye> i found it on google, it was in resolv.conf
[10:49] <jackeye> god damn, why did we have to make it that complicated :(
[10:49] <macd> what about in system settings -> bluetooth, then highlight and disable the service ..
[10:50] <Kabal> can I comment bluetooth out at /etc/modprobe.d/aliases ?
[10:50] <jackeye> why do people on linux have to make things so complicated?
[10:50] <jackeye>  ;/
[10:51] <belp> :O it's getting better
[10:51] <macd> kabal, Im not sure, but you could rename the module in the lib kernel module tree then depmod -a , then on next boot it would be disabled
[10:51] <belp> i mean before only hardcore nerds needed to apply to most any linux distro
[10:52] <Kabal> macd: oke thanx I will try that :)
[11:14] <Kabal> Anyone happend to know how to disable touchpad in a easy way on a laptop?
[11:19] <mottz> anyone got time for a question? (other than this one)
[11:21] <Kabal> just ask mottz :)
[11:24] <mottz> ok, I changed root passwd by booting to single user mode. Now adept only runs in read-only .
[11:26] <roniez> crap, i am trying to install a program on windows, and i get a freaking access violation... :(
[11:26] <mottz> I have tried sudo adept aswell as running it from term su and nothing will run it as root.
[11:28] <mottz> does kde or adept store root passwd in a different location?
[11:29] <Kabal> That I don't know.. but is your root account active?
[11:31] <mottz> yes, I can su sucessfully
[11:31] <roniez_> damm... this freeNX is great.
[11:31] <Kabal> and did you try it from KDE?
[11:31] <Kabal> packetmanager for example
[11:32] <mottz> yes at adept start up it requires "root" paswswd (or I think its the root passwd) give no incorrect passwd error but
[11:32] <mottz> shows error "opening in read-only mode"...
[11:33] <mottz> yeah run as root  at adept start up
[11:34] <Kabal> hmm
[11:34] <mottz> so im thinking it is not auth properly and thus going to read only.
[11:35] <Kabal> I run adept as user.. not as root
[11:35] <Kabal> I've got no pass for root.. root is disabled here..
[11:36] <mottz> maybe I enabled root by creating a passwd after the install
[11:36] <Kabal> could be :)
[11:40] <mottz> well I disabled root using "sudo passwd -l root"
[11:41] <mottz> now adept hangs on start
[11:41] <mottz> maybe a reboot
[11:45] <mottz> alright
[11:45] <Kabal> hmm and?
[11:45] <mottz> thanks for your help
[11:45] <Kabal> did the restart did the trick?
[11:45] <Kabal> :)
[11:45] <mottz> if I exicute adept from cli sudo it works
[11:46] <Kabal> great :)
[11:46] <Kabal> and also from packetmanager in kde?
[11:46] <mottz> nope
[11:46] <mottz> It is asking for run-as root passwd still
[11:46] <Kabal> yes
[11:46] <mottz> do you know how to change it
[11:46] <Kabal> that's the pass when you login to kde
[11:47] <Kabal> try the kde login pas.. does that work?
[11:47] <mottz> an admin usr pw right? not actually root?
[11:47] <Kabal> yes
[11:47] <mottz> nope
[11:47] <Kabal> hmm
[11:47] <roniez> unless he changed the config for sudo.. to use root pass.
[11:47] <Kabal> dunno.. :)
[11:48] <mottz> I changed root passwd by loging in single user and running cmd passwd. thats it
[11:48] <mottz> would that change sudo conf?
[11:48] <Chousuke> no
[11:48] <Chousuke> you know, the easiest way to enable root is to run "sudo passwd"
[11:48] <roniez> hm.. why the hell did u do that?
[11:48] <Chousuke> no need for reboots :P
[11:48] <roniez> exactly.
[11:48] <roniez> i was gonna say that Chousuke
[11:48] <Kabal> hehe
[11:49] <mottz> I did not know that untill more resently than I did the former
[11:49] <roniez> bah, being stoned makes me slow. :)
[11:49] <mottz> tos'e
[12:19] <roniez> is it possible to switch between different "desktops" like i want to use kubuntu and i also want to use the gnome desktop... some times..
[12:19] <roniez> do i need to install  a hole ubuntu?
[12:32] <BluesKaj_> Howdy
[12:33] <DapperDrake> is there a way to start a programme in a certain desktop?
[12:34] <Sputnik_NL> Thanks to all the Kubuntu developers, a big progression is make for 6.06!
[12:36] <Sputnik_NL> though I'm wondering, when does the new version of Adept come out?
[12:42] <Sputnik_NL> Please, nobody has information about the progress of Adept?
[12:44] <_szamanu> greets ppl
[12:53] <inc|freaky> hi all. how can i get rid of the arrows in kicker of for example the k-menu (pointing up, indicating its a menu or there are entries if you click on the symbol) i know, that k-menu opens a menu i dont want it to show that to me with that arrow pointing up because it looks ugly ... is that possible? (sry 4 my bad english ;));))
[12:54] <hrubi> hi, can anyone help me?: I just installed kubuntu on friends desktop and ended up with X messed up (due to missing ati-drivers i think) and without root password. What did I wrong?
[12:55] <DapperDrake> is there a way to start a programme in a certain desktop?
[12:58] <bhna> hrubi: !root
[12:58] <bhna> !root
[12:58] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:02] <inc|freaky> hrubi: try setting a root password - the root password is usually the same as the users password
[01:03] <inc|freaky> hrubi: but u only use sudo (by default) on kubuntu
[01:03] <inc|freaky> hrubi: if you really want a root login do sudo passwd
[01:03] <inc|freaky> and type in the actual users password
[01:03] <hrubi> thanks
[01:03] <inc|freaky> and then set a rootpass
[01:03] <inc|freaky> hrubi: for the ati drivers ...
[01:04] <inc|freaky> hrubi: there is a nice tutorial somewhere ... do you have a internet connection with webbrowser available?
[01:04] <hrubi> i have found it now on wiki :) thanks, it shoulg go well from now on...
[01:04] <inc|freaky> awkay, gl ;D
[01:13] <sander_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=24626 -> I'm trying to download a SuperKaramba .skz file here, but Konqueror opens it in Kate, and when I save it in Kate it is corrupted, when I close Kate the file is lost, how can I fix this behavior of Konqueror?
[01:13] <inc|freaky> try rightclick --> save as ?
[01:14] <sander_> it's an indirect download link, so I can't use "Save As...", how can I make Konqueror just download it instead of opening it in Kate
[01:14] <sander_> i.e. the download link points to download.php
[01:14] <sander_> and not to the file directly
[01:15] <Kabal> use opera :)
[01:15] <sander_> I know I could try another browser, but Konqueror is a native KDe app even though it has it's issues
[01:15] <jarle> any application that can be running on my kde-panel and automatically inform me of updates?
[01:15] <Kabal> in Opera go to tranfer manager en paste url in Quickdownload
[01:16] <sander_> I've already tried looking in the settings for file associations, but I can't find Kate associated for .skz files anywhere
[01:16] <sander_> I'd prefer to use Konqueror instead of downloading Opera for just downloading a file, isn't there some way to fix this?
[01:19] <F_for_Fragging> is there no one who can help me with my Konqueror problem?
[01:21] <F_for_Fragging> jarle: I'm running the Dapper Drake beta, which already has an application called adept-updater installed by default for update notifications
[01:23] <Motxo> Hi!
[01:24] <Motxo> there is some Spanish?
[01:25] <Motxo> go all to take by ass
[01:26] <F_for_Fragging> Motxo: http://kubuntu.org/support.php -> here you can find some links for Spanish support -> #kubuntu-es
[01:32] <roniez_> hm
[01:42] <froud> need a memory jogger. Can anyone remind me how to switch from GDM to KDM :-)
[01:43] <roniez_> hehe i was just about to do that my self..
[01:43] <roniez_> ask that that i is.
[01:45] <joedoc> froud: do you have kde installed
[01:45] <joedoc> ?
[01:45] <bimberi> froud: is kdm installed?
[01:45] <froud> I did aptget insall kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu system
[01:45] <froud> kde is there
[01:45] <froud> it loads
[01:46] <bimberi> froud: kk
[01:46] <froud> but seems to use GDM
[01:46] <joedoc> the script to ruin the windo manager is an init script
[01:46] <bimberi> froud: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[01:46] <joedoc> stand by a sec...
[01:46] <froud> yah bigo
[01:46] <froud> bimberi: dats d one
[01:46] <froud> danke
[01:46] <bimberi> froud: np :)
[01:47] <joedoc> froud: under /etc/rc2.d, I have an init script called "kdm" that runs the window manager. My guess is that there's one in yours called "gdm"
[01:48] <joedoc> you should be able to just delete the gdm script and replace it with a link to the kdm script
[01:48] <froud> joedoc: also kewl
[01:48] <froud> thanks
[01:49] <joedoc> the script inder rc2.d is a soft link to the actual file un /etc/init.d
[01:50] <joedoc> so go to /etc/rc2.d, rm S21gdm (or whatever it's called), then ln -s /etc/init.d/kdm /etc/rc2.d/S21kdm
[01:51] <joedoc> I'm assuming that you're running in runlevel 2
[02:51] <jarle> F_for_Fragging: How do you start it automatically when you login to KDE (as it needs to be run as root)
[03:04] <tl``> greetings.  i'm attempting to get mp3 support to work in kubuntu.  however, the package gstreamer0.8-mad doesn't exist :(
[03:05] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[03:05] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[03:05] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:05] <tl``> oh, wow, i missed a crucial part of that page
[03:05] <tl``> thanks :p
[03:12] <truthseek> hi
[03:12] <truthseek> 1 question
[03:12] <truthseek> I've installed quake3 in /home/myuser/quake3
[03:12] <truthseek> chowned to me all the files and chmoded them with 777
[03:12] <truthseek> when I use "sudo quake3" everything goes k
[03:13] <truthseek> but when I just launch it, the executable can't write or modify some files in the directory
[03:13] <truthseek> any hints? or maybe a way to create a script that automatically uses sudo?
[03:18] <_deviant_> your a weird one.. what does 'ls -l /home/myuser/quake3' gives?
[03:21] <phasegen> can anyone instruct this noob on how to remove the trash folder and all it's contents from an external hd in one harsh and old-testament-like command?  I'm trying to back my system up for an internal hd transplant.
[03:22] <XVampireX> n00b
[03:22] <phasegen> yes I am
[03:22] <XVampireX> me too
[03:22] <XVampireX> When everyone realises they don't know anything, only then, do they know something.
[03:23] <phasegen> the first step towards enlightenment, (not the desktop environment)
[03:23] <XVampireX> Yeah
[03:24] <phasegen> so I've taken the first step...  SOMEONE ENLIGHTEN ME!
[03:25] <XVampireX> Uhm
[03:25] <truthseek> deviant: fixed it :-)
[03:25] <XVampireX> I'll try to find in google
[03:25] <truthseek> hidden dir .q3a.. with old permission
[03:25] <truthseek> and root owner
[03:26] <truthseek> I've chowned and chmoded it right now
[03:26] <truthseek> cool :-)
[03:26] <XVampireX> But what do you mean by remove the trash folder?
[03:27] <XVampireX> Can't you just remove the trash applet?
[03:28] <phasegen> the trash folder has many subfolders in it, and won't let me delete it
[03:28] <XVampireX> sudo remove (path to trash) ?
[03:29] <XVampireX> don't know what is the command to remove
[03:29] <XVampireX> but you need to remove it using sudo
[03:29] <phasegen> it tells me the folders have stuff in them and i can't
[03:29] <XVampireX> as in, root.
[03:29] <XVampireX> Don't know why he left
[03:30] <iNiku> foo
[03:30] <iNiku> foo
[03:30] <XVampireX> bar
[04:08] <rus> hi all
[04:09] <rus> having trouble with keyboard layouts
[04:11] <rus> Option		"XkbLayout"	"us,ru(winkeys)"
[04:11] <rus> 	Option		"XkbVariant"	"nodeadkeys"
[04:11] <rus> 	Option		"XkbOptions"	"grp:alt_shift_toggle"
[04:11] <rus> heres a piece of my xorg.conf
[04:11] <rus> doesnt respond anymore
[04:12] <rus> it did
[04:12] <rus> before
[04:12] <rus> maybe something i installed
[04:12] <rus> any ideas?
[04:15] <mhterres> try to configure your X using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:24] <roniez> who ever suggested freeNX to me, thx i love it.
[04:25] <DaSkreech> :-)
[04:25] <DaSkreech> Whats the diff between ddrescue and gddrescue?
[04:25] <roniez> i have no idea...
[04:26] <HymnToLife> I would guess ddrescue is the app itself and gddrescue is a GTK+ GUI for it
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Doesn't seem so it has  no gui components
[04:30] <roniez> wy isnt my copy in aterm work?
[04:37] <granda> hi! how do i get libstdc++.so.2.8?
[04:41] <Hoobly> is there a client similar to Outlook for connecting to an Exchange server?
[04:41] <v3ctor> evolution
[04:51] <granda> are you using evolution?
[04:52] <v3ctor> i have used it in the past
[04:52] <v3ctor> one of my coworkers uses it here to connect to exchange server
[04:53] <granda> what are you using now? i am totally unhappy with sylpheed. mainly because it is so slow
[04:54] <v3ctor> i use kmail
[04:55] <Lorenzod> granda: hm.. sylpheed used to be really fast..
[04:56] <Lorenzod> But of course, that was a few years ago, haven't tried it since.
[04:56] <granda> i don't know. when i open a huge folder, i want to see the mails immediately. and i want to open them withuout lags of a second or ywo
[04:56] <Lorenzod> granda: hm.. depending on how you define *huge* that may not be possible at all..
[04:57] <granda> and when it checks mails (also slowly), i can't do almost anything.
[04:58] <Lorenzod> Have you ever given mutt a go?
[04:58] <granda> i used the bat, that was fast. there were no delays at all. and: if i start the bat under wine, it is also very much faster tahn sylpheed or thunderbird.
[04:59] <granda> i need a gui for my mails...
[04:59] <leo> hallo
[04:59] <granda> i really thought about using the bat under wine, but it's too unstable
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Good grief Kopete is annoying
[05:00] <Lorenzod> DaSkreech: true, true, but then again Gaim 1.x is even worse.
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Well... no
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[05:01] <DaSkreech> I guess I could apt-get install gaim
[05:01] <Lorenzod> I would compile Gaim 2.0 instead.
[05:01] <Lorenzod> It's far better.
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Good point
[05:02] <Lorenzod> Gaim 1.x with all it's pop up dialogs constitutes application spam IYAM.
[05:02] <DaSkreech> ?? Ok I've never had a pop up after I turned off guifications
[05:03] <DaSkreech> and I had to install that in the first place
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Plus at least that's granular
[05:03] <Lorenzod> Well, maybe you have a stable link..
[05:03] <DaSkreech> the  popups in kopete are just on or off
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Which is quite annoying
[05:04] <DaSkreech> I get popups everytime someone says something in IRC, leaves the room, joins the room or picks their nose
[05:04] <DaSkreech> When all I really wnat is a notification when someone says my name
[05:04] <DaSkreech> PLus Kopete crashes at a moments notice :-(
[05:06] <DaSkreech>  Has anyone tried the one button upgrade in Dapper? :) I just want to know how it works
[05:19] <granda> what are you using for chm files?
[05:22] <nagyv> Hello! I am preparing myself for a presentation, and I would like to ask you about the usafe of two screens. Is it enough if I set it up under System Settings or do I need a specific hardware too?
[05:26] <rus> same shoot
[05:26] <rus> dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[05:26] <rus> didnt work
[05:26] <DaSkreech> no dash tween  dpkg and reconfigure
[05:27] <rus> keyboard layout switching doesnt work
[05:27] <rus> it works with the dash
[05:27] <rus> dpkg-reconfigure
[05:27] <DaSkreech> ok :-)
[05:28] <rus> i reconfigured the xserver
[05:28] <rus> but still cant switch keyboard layouts
[05:28] <rus> help required
[05:29] <rus> could there be some package overriding the layout function
[05:29] <rus> ?
[05:32] <rus> i tried to enable the kde keyboard layout function
[05:32] <rus> but it gives an error
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Where is the kde keyboard layout?
[05:34] <rus> DaSkreech: what do you mean?
[05:34] <DaSkreech> You said you called the keyboard layout function
[05:34] <DaSkreech> Is that like a on-screen keyboard?
[05:34] <DaSkreech> hi jpatrick
[05:34] <rus> nope
[05:34] <jpatrick> hi DaSkreech
[05:34] <roniez> how can i get wordwrap i aterm?
[05:34] <Sputnik_NL> Once again I've a question about Adept, somtimes it just locks up (other programs run fine). Any chance for a new version before the final?
[05:35] <roniez> its screwing up when i am typing but when otherppl do it its ok.
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Sputnik_NL: it locks up?
[05:35] <rus> its a little icon in tray looks like a country flag
[05:35] <Sputnik_NL> yes, after refreshing the database DaSkreech
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Sputnik_NL: Repeatable?
[05:36] <rus> shows the keyboard layout currently active
[05:36] <Sputnik_NL> let's say one in the 4/5 times you try it
[05:36] <Sputnik_NL> and sometimes it closes after installing new packages
[05:36] <rus> example: US , RU (russian)
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Well adept is pretty much just open for me all the time
[05:36] <DaSkreech> My closes when I search too quickly
[05:36] <Laney> That's better.
[05:36] <Sputnik_NL> that's weird tough
[05:37] <Laney> Can I be pointed in the direction of some information on getting my media keys (volume, mute, web browser etc etc) on my keyboard working in KDE please?!
[05:37] <Sputnik_NL> is the development of Adept still on track?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> rus: Which are you typing in?
[05:37] <Sputnik_NL> I thought there were two more versions to come for the final
[05:37] <Sputnik_NL> (RC, Final)
[05:37] <rus> US
[05:37] <rus> of course
[05:37] <Kadran> hii, is there is a way to run a command line in tty1-6 and make it run in kde>?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> rus: and it doesn't work?
[05:38] <rus> ))
[05:38] <rus> it does
[05:38] <rus> but i need to switch to russian sometimes
[05:38] <rus> and that doesnt
[05:39] <Sputnik_NL> what if you make two user accounts
[05:39] <Sputnik_NL> and hot switch between them
[05:39] <Sputnik_NL> one with standard US and one as standard RU
[05:39] <Sputnik_NL> just a work-around
[05:39] <rus> what for?
[05:39] <DaSkreech> Well under accessibilty you can enable keyboard switching
[05:40] <rus> im talking about symbol switching
[05:40] <Sputnik_NL> because your problem is you can't switch keyboard layout right, or am I mistaken here
[05:40] <rus> yes but not from pc104 to pc 105
[05:40] <rus> for example
[05:40] <Sputnik_NL> I understand
[05:40] <rus> from latin to cyrillic symbols
[05:40] <Sputnik_NL> but these settings are user account pacific
[05:41] <rus> nope
[05:41] <Sputnik_NL> not?
[05:41] <rus> )))
[05:41] <rus> you're getting me wrong
[05:42] (rus/#kubuntu) so when you need to type dutch you press a key combination to type dutch or not?
[05:42] (Sputnik_NL/#kubuntu) nope, we use US-International keyboards here
[05:43] <rus> what about extra symbols like the a with to dots on it?
[05:43] <Sputnik_NL> we don't have them
[05:43] <rus> crap ))
[05:44] <Sputnik_NL> and special charters we insert with ASCII code
[05:44] <Sputnik_NL> we don't have Dutch layouts for keyboards, just US-International ;)
[05:44] <rus> well in russian the letters are different
[05:44] <Sputnik_NL> I know, tell me about it
[05:44] <Sputnik_NL> I understand your problem, in theory
[05:45] <rus> and before I pressed alt+shift and i could type in russian
[05:45] <Sputnik_NL> maybe something to submit to launchpad then
[05:45] <rus> now i must have installed some crap that avoids the alt+shift to get to the xserver
[05:46] <DaSkreech> How did you set it to alt+shift?
[05:46] <Sputnik_NL> I see
[05:46] <rus> 	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us,ru(winkeys)"
[05:46] <rus> 	Option		"XkbVariant"	"nodeadkeys"
[05:46] <rus> 	Option		"XkbOptions"	"grp:alt_shift_toggle"
[05:47] <rus> putting this to xserver in the keyboard section
[05:48] <rus> could it be xkb?
[05:48] <Sputnik_NL> what about "Alt+Ctl+k"
[05:48] <Sputnik_NL> lol
[05:48] <rus> thats crap 3 instead of 2
[05:49] <rus> i know thats the default kde command for keyboard layout
[05:49] <rus> but it doesnt work for me
[05:49] <Sputnik_NL> weird stuff
[05:50] <Lorenzod> rus: have you added Russian keyboard to the KDE keyboard properties?
[05:50] <Sputnik_NL> and if you configure the switching from the "Regional & Accessibility" from the System Settings?
[05:50] <rus> yep
[05:50] <Sputnik_NL> it offers to configure your xkb options too
[05:51] <rus> Lorenzod did that to
[05:51] <Lorenzod> Exactly, that's how I switch between American and Swedish keyboard layouts.
[05:51] <rus> gives me an error
[05:51] <Sputnik_NL> shoot me, I really don't know
[05:51] <v3ctor> 1;2c1;2chmm
[05:52] <Lorenzod> rus: what error, exactly?
[05:53] (Sputnik_NL/#kubuntu) sure you are running the latest updates?
[05:53] (Lorenzod/#kubuntu) I don't know, but on my system, Alt+Shift activates Skim.
[05:53] (Sputnik_NL/#kubuntu) and do you use xnumlock or something?
[05:53] (rus/#kubuntu) nope
[05:53] (Sputnik_NL/#kubuntu) then I'm sorry
[05:53] (DaSkreech/#kubuntu) Whats skim?
[05:53] <Sputnik_NL> wish you good luck solving
[05:53] <Sputnik_NL> for Chinese
[05:54] <Lorenzod> DaSkreech: input method framework.
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Lorenzod: To build new input methods?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Like for wacoms or Tablets?
[05:54] <Sputnik_NL> I thought skim is for asian languages
[05:55] <Sputnik_NL> :)
[05:55] <DaSkreech> I just saw it in Utilites
[05:55] <Sputnik_NL> gtg, good luck all
[05:55] <Sputnik_NL> yes, well as far I know skim has to do with Asian languages
[05:55] <DaSkreech> If it's not intended to be used by users why is it there?
[05:56] <Lorenzod> No, rather it allows you to input in languages like 
[05:56] <rus> is there a russian channel for (k) ubuntu?
[05:58] <DaSkreech> k
[05:58] <WhyM> Laney: http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/
[05:58] <roniez> lol somebody is having fun in #ubuntu
[05:59] <rus> yep))
[05:59] <Lorenzod> Hm..
[05:59] <Lorenzod>  #ubuntu You need to be invited to that channel
[05:59] <Lorenzod> ??
[06:03] <roniez> somebody was flooding the channel
[06:03] <DaSkreech> ops :)
[06:20] <zahlerstreik> hey does anyone know how i can get to the Synaptic Package Manager in Kubuntu 5.04?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> zahlerstreik: use adept
[06:21] <zahlerstreik> ?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> KubuntuMenu -> System -> Adept
[06:21] <DaSkreech> or alt+space then type adept
[06:22] <zahlerstreik> ah
[06:22] <zahlerstreik> sorry
[06:22] <DaSkreech> No problem
[06:22] <zahlerstreik> kubuntu comes with "kynaptic"
[06:22] <zahlerstreik> haaha
[06:22] <zahlerstreik> lolllllllll
[06:23] <DaSkreech> zahlerstreik: Which kubuntu are you using? I havenm
[06:23] <DaSkreech> zahlerstreik: Which kubuntu are you using? I haven't seen Kynaptic since hoary
[06:23] <zahlerstreik> thats the one
[06:23] <ruisu> so i guess debian packaes are compatible with kubuntu?
[06:23] <DaSkreech> auuugh
[06:23] <zahlerstreik> how do i add a repository with this damn one?
[06:23] <zahlerstreik> yeah kubuntu is based on debiam
[06:23] <zahlerstreik> debian
[06:23] <ruisu> good
[06:23] <zahlerstreik> lol
[06:24] <DaSkreech> I'm going to install kynaptic to help you get rid of it :(
[06:24] <DaSkreech>  Wait You know about sources.list?
[06:24] <zahlerstreik> DaSkreech how do i add a repository in kynaptic?
[06:24] <zahlerstreik> nothing
[06:24] <zahlerstreik> im teh nub
[06:24] <DaSkreech> damn ok hold on
[06:24] <zahlerstreik> im hardware
[06:24] <zahlerstreik> i built 10 LGA 775 boxes yesterday in like ~2hrs
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Ugh Ok They don't have it in the repos anymore
[06:24] <zahlerstreik> :(
[06:25] <DaSkreech> ok what do you want to upgrade to?
[06:25] <zahlerstreik> i need to get wine
[06:25] <zahlerstreik> so i can play cs
[06:25] <DaSkreech> 5.10 or 6.06?
[06:25] <zahlerstreik> fucked if i know
[06:25] <zahlerstreik> h/o
[06:25] <DaSkreech> language
[06:25] <zahlerstreik> srry
[06:25] <zahlerstreik> newest distro
[06:25] <zahlerstreik> so 6.06
[06:26] <DaSkreech> ok open a konsole
[06:26] <zahlerstreik> k
[06:26] <zahlerstreik> done
[06:26] <DaSkreech> and type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <zahlerstreik> wow that was hard
[06:27] <zahlerstreik> hit return?
[06:27] <roniez> hm.. anybody here know aterm good?
[06:27] <zahlerstreik> oh god
[06:27] <zahlerstreik> kate has opened teh text box
[06:28] <zahlerstreik> what now
[06:28] <v3ctor> multi-aterm just got removed from my system
[06:28] <DaSkreech> put in your password
[06:28] <zahlerstreik> yeah
[06:28] <zahlerstreik> i did that
[06:28] <zahlerstreik> now theres a bunch of repositories
[06:28] <zahlerstreik> i know which one to use for WINE
[06:28] <DaSkreech> ok Enable it
[06:28] <zahlerstreik> i just dont know how to add it :(
[06:28] <zahlerstreik> kynaptic sucks ass
[06:29] <ruisu> ok, so i need to run some programs to get wireless internet, how can i create a bash script that loads after loading the disks and doesnt need me to type the root password?
[06:29] <zahlerstreik> can i add it in konsole?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> si
[06:29] <DaSkreech> You are in kate now?
[06:29] <zahlerstreik> yeah
[06:29] <mth`MAW> hi there
[06:29] <ruisu> hi
[06:29] <zahlerstreik> what's the command to add a repository?
[06:29] <mth`MAW> sudo vi /etc/apt/source.list
[06:30] <DaSkreech> ok now do a Ctrl+R
[06:30] <zahlerstreik> k
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Find hoary and replace with dapper
[06:30] <zahlerstreik> on the first line?
[06:31] <zahlerstreik> it says hoary twice on the first line
[06:31] <zahlerstreik> should i just add the repository i want in this list?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:33] <zahlerstreik> cool
[06:33] <zahlerstreik> downloading and installing
[06:33] <zahlerstreik> ty
[06:33] <zahlerstreik> lol
[06:35] <mitakka> Is there a GUI ftp server, because i am not a linux guru yet ???
[06:37] <DaSkreech> mitakka: Sure
[06:38] <mitakka> just name it
[06:40] <DaSkreech> kbear
[06:41] <jpatrick> kasablanca
[06:41] <jpatrick> kftpgrabber
[06:41] <reon> anyone here installed Kerry ?
[06:41] <mitakka> thanks
[06:42] <mitakka> you have a beer from me
[06:42] <reon> kasablanca is cool
[06:42] <mitakka> :)
[06:42] <jpatrick> <- kerry packager
[06:42] <jpatrick> mitakka: I'm too young for beer
[06:42] <jpatrick> but anyhoo
[06:42] <reon> kerry, the beagle frontend ?
[06:42] <nico8481> hi
[06:42] <jpatrick> yes
[06:42] <mitakka> ok so a orenge juice fine???
[06:43] <mitakka> *orange
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Anyone is an adept guru?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Can I filter out the repos?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> For example only see Universe things?
[06:43] <xwolf-> how do i edit samba's network group from WORKGROUP to GRUPO forever? because this bitch keeps changing back to workgroup ;/
[06:43] <jpatrick> reon: apt-cache show kerry
[06:45] <nico8481> how come that user that has been kicked from a channel can auto-rejoin although a keyword has been set before the kicking ?
[06:45] <nico8481> is it normal?
[06:45] <reon> jpatrick, i know but how wel does it work & i suppose i need kio-beagle as well ?
[06:45] <jpatrick> reon: works well, no you don't need kio-beagle
[06:46] <reon> jpatrick, ok so i just need kerry then
[06:46] <granda> is there a tool which can identify a font on the screen?
[06:46] <jpatrick> Kynaptic sucks
[06:46] <DaSkreech> yes it does thank mornfall for adept
[06:51] <DaSkreech> So can I fileter by repo?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Ahh Adept needs a changelog viewer
[06:51] <steve> lol
[06:51] <steve> quick
[06:51] <steve> whats the command to change file permissions
[06:51] <DaSkreech> sudo rm
[06:51] <steve> lol
[06:51] <DaSkreech> :-D
[06:51] <steve> <3
[06:51] <zahlerstreik> lol
[06:51] <zahlerstreik> hi1u
[06:51] <zahlerstreik> or
[06:51] <zahlerstreik> hi2u
[06:51] <DaSkreech> steve; don't do it!
[06:51] <zahlerstreik> y
[06:51] <zahlerstreik> SEE
[06:51] <zahlerstreik> im a nub
[06:51] <zahlerstreik> i wouldve done it
[06:52] <zahlerstreik> i mounted my NTFS drive on a folder but kubuntu is lame and gives it root only access
[06:52] <zahlerstreik> how do i give any user read access
[06:52] <zahlerstreik> to a folder
[06:52] <DaSkreech> zahlerstreik: It's not lame it's smart
[06:52] <xwolf-> how do i edit samba's network group from WORKGROUP to GRUPO forever? because this bitch keeps changing back to workgroup ;/
[06:53] <zahlerstreik> DaSkreech: how do i change the permissions for a folder so anyone can read it
[06:53] <DaSkreech> zahlerstreik: from a konsole type man chmod
[06:53] <zahlerstreik> lol
[06:53] <zahlerstreik> ty
[06:54] <DaSkreech> sure when you want to get out of that press q
[06:56] <zahlerstreik> so it would be chmod ~/Desktop/disk -a -rwx?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> no you need the -rwx before the file
[06:56] <DaSkreech>  and -removes that btw
[06:56] <DaSkreech> If you want to add them you need +rwx
[06:56] <DaSkreech> You shouldn't put on w on a ntfs drive
[06:57] <Flosoft> hey @ all
[06:57] <zahlerstreik> :(
[06:57] <zahlerstreik> oh yeah
[06:57] <DaSkreech> bad things (tm) can happen
[06:57] <zahlerstreik> chmod +a  +rx ~/Desktop/disk
[06:57] <Flosoft> how do I get Lipstik on Kubuntu Dapper
[06:57] <zahlerstreik> doesnt work
[06:57] <Flosoft> as after the upgrades the libraries with the KDE styles etc. didn't add Lipstik ?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> The theme?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> zahlerstreik: What permissions does it have now?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> zahlerstreik: try sudo before it
[07:00] <zahlerstreik> root can do whatev
[07:00] <zahlerstreik> i can do nothing
[07:00] <zahlerstreik> can i work in the GUI as root
[07:00] <zahlerstreik> all i need to do is copy some stuff
[07:00] <zahlerstreik> thats all
[07:01] <zahlerstreik> sudo chmod a +rx ~/Desktop/disk
[07:01] <zahlerstreik> gives me error:m invalid mode string 'a'
[07:01] <Flosoft> yes DaSkreech
[07:01] <DaSkreech> -a?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> You did a dist-upgrade to dapper?
[07:02] <Flosoft> me?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Flosoft: how did you get dapper?
[07:02] <Flosoft> via Updates in Synaptic
[07:02] <Flosoft> and now updates with Adept
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Where were you upgrading from?
[07:03] <Flosoft> ah archive.ubuntu.com
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Flosoft: no I mean from which version of *ubuntu?
[07:05] <Flosoft> 5.10
[07:06] <Flosoft> and I think that was based on 5.04
[07:06] <theobroma> hello riddell
[07:06] <Flosoft> but I have the latest version of KDE
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Si
[07:06] <JRGC> How do I install Java on kubuntu=
[07:07] <JRGC> ????
[07:07] <DaSkreech> and under appearances in the System settings you don't see Lipstik
[07:07] <DaSkreech> !java
[07:07] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:07] <DaSkreech> !javadebs
[07:07] <mhterres> JRCG: the better way is download the java from SUN and then run the .bin
[07:07] <DaSkreech> tell jrgc about javadebs
[07:11] <JRGC> Is there a blackdown java?
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Yeah I think so
[07:12] <JRGC> But for dapper, I need a blackdown java
[07:21] <nysosym> hello :D
[07:24] <mhterres> JRGC: install the java downloaded from Sun
[07:26] <JRGC> mhterres:  how?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Flosoft: hi
[07:27] <mhterres> download the .bin file and then chmod +x it and run
[07:28] <klarkin> afternoon
[07:28] <mhterres> hi
[07:28] <klarkin> :)
[07:28] <klarkin> just a quickie
[07:29] <klarkin> mp3 for amarok - cannot seem to get it to work at all - dapper install
[07:29] <klarkin> i have googled to no avail
[07:29] <jpatrick> !mp3
[07:29] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[07:29] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:30] <DaSkreech> tell klarkin about mp3
[07:31] <jpatrick> just did that
[07:32] <klarkin> xmms works but amarok nada ? - ogg ofcourse works
[07:32] <DaSkreech> jpatrick: just a bit more direct :)
[07:32] <DaSkreech> ogg doesn't work in Amarok?
[07:33] <klarkin> ogg ofcourse works
[07:33] <klarkin> ;)
[07:33] <jpatrick> klarkin: install libxine-extracodecs from multiverse
[07:33] <klarkin> did that
[07:34] <DapperDrake> yay, I've finaly figured out how to start an app in a specific desktop
[07:34] <klarkin> i always goole before asking stupid questions :P
[07:34] <klarkin> google even :/
[07:34] <jpatrick> ...
[07:34] <jpatrick> what engine are you using?
[07:35] <DaSkreech> DapperDrake: From CommandLine?
[07:35] <DapperDrake> yea
[07:35] <DaSkreech> DapperDrake: tell!
[07:35] <DapperDrake> wait a second, I'm not DapperDrake
[07:35] <klarkin> another starange thing is - it will only let me use arts engine
[07:35] <DapperDrake> anyway
[07:35] <DaSkreech> EdgyEft?
[07:35] <jpatrick> klarkin: woah...
[07:35] <coffeeguy> hey folks :)
[07:35] <DapperDrake> its kstart --desktop 1 amarok
[07:35] <DapperDrake> like that
[07:36] <DapperDrake> its done wonders for my startup
[07:36] <jpatrick> klarkin: try libakode2-mpeg ...
[07:36] <klarkin> complaining about xine engine = xine was unable to initialise any audio-drivers
[07:36] <klarkin>  libakode2-mpeg also done
[07:37] <Flosoft> does anyone know how to set-up a mini install of kubuntu to be an XDMCP Client?
[07:37] <DeBert> Is it possible to use 2 languages(dutch/english) for spellchecking in KDE/Konqueror?
[07:37] <ahmuck_jr> is anyone using cacti on kubuntu ?
[07:37] <jpatrick> klarkin: strange..
[07:37] <klarkin> indeed :)
[07:37] <DaSkreech> DapperDrake: Thats' pretty schweet
[07:38] <klarkin> looks like i will mp32ogg my day away :P
[07:38] <DapperDrake> DapperDrake: yup
[07:38] <DapperDrake> omg
[07:38] <DapperDrake> lol
[07:38] <DapperDrake> I was talking to you DaSkreech
[07:39] <niekie> DapperDrake: Talking to yourself is a sign of insanity.
[07:39] <niekie> Hehe. :P
[07:39] <DaSkreech> DapperDrake: Talking to your self is a sure sign of kookiness ;-)
[07:39] <DapperDrake> actually talking to yourself is very health, it builds up confidence
[07:39] <DapperDrake> so there
[07:40] <DapperDrake> :p
[07:40] <klarkin> Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate - and i do have multiverse in sources.list :/
[07:40] <jpatrick> sudo apt-get update
[07:40] <klarkin> also done
[07:41] <DapperDrake> healthy*
[07:42] <jpatrick> DapperDrake: that's something I need
[07:43] <DapperDrake> lol
[07:44] <klarkin> ok i punch myself in the head - sorted it
[07:44] <klarkin> :0
[07:44] <DapperDrake> lol
[07:45] <DapperDrake> who is *?
[07:45] <klarkin> had backports multiverse - not multiverse lines in sources.list
[07:45] <klarkin> duh
[07:45] <DapperDrake> !*
[07:45] <ubotu> DapperDrake: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:45] <DapperDrake> lol
[07:46] <morrow> i home someday they will remove the "-dd" from network-manager....
[07:46] <jpatrick> klarkin: heh
[07:47] <klarkin> sorry about that
[07:47] <klarkin> ;)
[07:48] <DapperDrake> is  network-manager a command cause' its not in /bin
[07:49] <jpatrick> not meant to be in /bin
[07:49] <jpatrick> but /usr/bin
[07:50] <DapperDrake> whatever
[07:50] <DapperDrake> anyway, what is the keyboard shortcut for Run Command?
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Meta+F2
[07:52] <DapperDrake> you mean Alt+F2?
[07:52] <DapperDrake> thanks for refreshing my memory
[07:53] <klarkin> F5 :P
[07:53] <klarkin> bad joke - :)
[07:54] <DapperDrake> it must be very bad, I fail to see the humor in it
[07:54] <klarkin> yup
[07:54] <DapperDrake> :p
[08:00] <DapperDrake> does Adept work for everyone else here?
[08:01] <M3ATW0D> Anyone here familar with SunRay's on Ubuntu and can offer help? Specifically keyboard issues.
[08:02] <DapperDrake> when I run sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install it gives me the following error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:02] <m0ns00n> Anyone knows how to stop two network cards from switching place after each reboot?
[08:02] <m0ns00n> eth1 <-> eth2
[08:03] <m0ns00n> It's trouble!
[08:03] <m0ns00n> :-)
[08:03] <m0ns00n> I need to switch the cables after each reboot
[08:03] <m0ns00n> So that the home network will work
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Checked in /etc/network?
[08:04] <M3ATW0D> should scan the pci bus from bottom to top
[08:04] <M3ATW0D> ie first card on bottom
[08:05] <M3ATW0D> after that it then looks at onboard stuff
[08:05] <nox-Hand> Hey
[08:05] <nox-Hand> I am using the dapper release... And, the install crashes X(
[08:06] <DaSkreech> nox-Hand: Which release?
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> M0ns00n: are they both the same brand of card ? there is a way of locking interfaces to MAC address but I can't remember it
[08:06] <nox-Hand> DaSkreech: Dunno, I downloaded it this week.
[08:06] <nox-Hand> DaSkreech: I got the error right here, if you could take a look.
[08:07] <DaSkreech> nox-Hand: Did you do a md5 sum on the iso?
[08:07] <nox-Hand> DaSkreech: Hm, no, but I checked the CD before installation, with that Kubuntu thing..
[08:08] <DaSkreech> ok
[08:08] <nox-Hand> http://pastebin.com/700495 There, DaSkreech
[08:08] <nox-Hand> bbl, I hope someone can help =)
[08:19] <Flosoft> why isn't Lipstik Window Decoration on my install? Where can I get it?
[08:23] <squilla> nox_Hand: you have an ATI or Nvidia graphics card
[08:23] <squilla> nox_Hand: go to wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowTo
[08:24] <squilla> nox_Hand: as in go to http://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowTo
[08:35] <Flosoft> I have Lipstik style installed, but I can't choose it as window layout
[08:35] <Flosoft> could someone help me with that?
[08:36] <jpatrick> maybe it's a style and not a win-deco
[08:37] <Flosoft> ok ... it is a style
[08:37] <zorglu1> q. can i install from the livecd ? 6.04
[08:37] <Flosoft> but what about the Win-Deco used on the new Kubuntu?
[08:38] <jpatrick> kwin-style-crystal
[08:38] <Flosoft> no
[08:38] <Flosoft> there is this new one
[08:39] <jpatrick> blended?
[08:39] <Flosoft> Smooth Blend? no
[08:41] <Flosoft> this one: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/616/7.gif
[08:42] <jpatrick> kwin-style-crystal
[08:42] <jpatrick> hu Snake__
[08:43] <Flosoft> but .. that isn't crystal :S
[08:43] <jpatrick> Flosoft: it is
[08:43] <Flosoft> ????
[08:43] <Snake__> hey jpatrick
[08:44] <zorglu1> q. can i install from the livecd 6.04 ?
[08:44] <jpatrick> I am the maintainer of that package, so I'm pretty sure what it is and what it ain't
[08:44] <jpatrick> zorglu1: sort of
[08:44] <Snake__> I think its time to do a fresh dapper install..
[08:44] <Snake__> This one is way to b0rked
[08:44] <Flosoft> well .. how come it is rounded ?
[08:44] <Flosoft> do I need to configure it?
[08:44] <Snake__> Flosoft: Crystal is rounded
[08:45] <zorglu1> Snake__: jpatrick: so to sumup, it is not advised ? :)
[08:45] <jpatrick> testing is welcome....
[08:45] <Snake__> zorglu1: No it works fine from what ive used
[08:45] <Snake__> zorglu1: but please, if theres any issues, report it
[08:45] <zorglu1> q. how is the install of the kubuntu 'normal' ?
[08:45] <Snake__> zorglu1: as in using a install disk?
[08:46] <zorglu1> Snake__: well i am a dev, and dont want to crash my whole disk :)
[08:46] <zorglu1> Snake__: yep
[08:46] <zorglu1> Snake__: is there any ? in fact i havent checked
[08:46] <Snake__> zorglu1: works fine :) altho I suggest you dont install beta software on a productive box
[08:46] <Lynoure> zorglu1: backups, those are a glorious thing :)
[08:46] <zorglu1> Snake__: kubuntu is beta ?
[08:46] <Snake__> zorglu1: Your talking about kubuntu 6.06 right?
[08:46] <zorglu1> Lynoure: yep and no more disk space is infamous :)
[08:47] <zorglu1> Snake__: yep. well i got 6.04 livecd
[08:47] <zorglu1> Snake__: which one should i install for stable ?
[08:47] <Lynoure> zorglu1: external harddisks are not that expensive anymore, and one can always burn dvds/cds
[08:48] <zorglu1> Lynoure: i know, i got more than 400gbyte
[08:48] <Blissex> Lynoure: external hard disks are a very good idea.
[08:48] <Snake__> zorglu1: Its now known as 6.06, and that sounds like a older version if you have it labeled 6.04. The live install is pretty buggy on older disks. and if you want stable you should go look for Kubuntu 5.10 Breezy
[08:49] <zorglu1> Snake__: ok, is updating the distribution working well on ubuntu ?
[08:49] <Snake__> zorglu1: Re-Word
[08:49] <zorglu1> Snake__: in fact my question is more 'if i install 5.10, do i have to reinstall a 6.x' pretty soon ?
[08:50] <simlu> hi guys
[08:50] <mhterres> zorglu1: 6.06 will be released in June 1st
[08:50] <mhterres> hi
[08:50] <Snake__> zorglu1: No, it should be able to be updatable, or you could get a new live disk to use, but just be aware it is still in beta testing and there is a chance of your hard drive blowing up.
[08:50] <simlu> i've upgraded my kubuntu breezy to kde 3.5
[08:50] <zorglu1> Snake__: ok i come from fedora world. and to upgrade your os from say fc4 to fc5 is quite an utopy. so im wondering if ubuntu is similar ?
[08:50] <simlu> and now kcontrol doesn't work anymore
[08:51] <mhterres> simlu: strange, works fine for me
[08:51] <Snake__> zorglu1: No to update to 6.06, you would simply put the dapper repos into your sources.list (for apt-get) then apt-get dist-upgrade, and it shoud hook you up.
[08:51] <simlu> and of course I used apt-get to do the thing
[08:51] <mhterres> simlu: did you run a apt-get dist-upgrade, after the apt-fer upgrade
[08:51] <simlu> mhterres - yes
[08:51] <zorglu1> Snake__: nice :) thansk for all the info
[08:51] <Snake__> zorglu1: no problem :)
[08:52] <simlu> mhterres - but I think I found something that is missing... kdegraphics-kfile-plugins has not been updated because of unmet dependencies.
[08:53] <simlu> mhterrese - kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler0c2-qt (>= 0.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[08:53] <simlu> mhterres - libpoppler0c2-qt: Depends: libpoppler0c2 (= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6) but 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.7 is to be installed
[08:53] <simlu> mhterres - any clues? :)
[08:55] <mhterres> no, I didn't have this problem...
[08:55] <simlu> mhterrese - which one did you install? 3.5, 3.5.1, 3.5.2?
[08:55] <mhterres> everybody that I know that upgrade to KDE (3.5.2) doesn't have any problems
[08:56] <simlu> of course everytime something doesn't work for me, it works for everyone
[08:57] <Flosoft> is there a way to change the login screen? something non vi?
[08:57] <mhterres> simlu: heh
[08:58] <Snake__> simlu: if your on Kubuntu 5.10 you should expect problems. Note for the future: Newer is not always better. If you live on the cutting edge, expect to bleed.
[08:58] <simlu> snake - problems with kubuntu 5.10? why?
[08:58] <DaSkreech> Flosoft: To what?
[08:59] <DaSkreech> Flosoft: Did You get your lipstik?
[08:59] <Flosoft> yes
[08:59] <simlu> snake - and no, I don't really like to live on the cutting edge. :)
[08:59] <Snake__> simlu: Because it wasnt designed to run that. in anycase, can you pastebin where you got this error?
[08:59] <Flosoft> it was crystal
[08:59] <Flosoft> ;)
[08:59] <Snake__> !pastebin
[08:59] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:59] <Flosoft> but now I got it and it works well :)
[09:01] <DaSkreech> :-)
[09:01] <simlu> snake - haha, well i thought it was safe to upgrade, they annonced it on their web site!
[09:01] <simlu> snake - the error I paste is an error from apt-get
[09:02] <simlu> snake - you want me to paste it again?
[09:02] <Snake__> simlu: I would like to see it all in a whole, from what you type in to get that error, to the end
[09:03] <Snake__> simlu: and please paste it in a pastebin
[09:03] <simlu> alrite
[09:04] <simlu> snake - done
[09:04] <Snake__> simlu: link?
[09:05] <simlu> snake - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13436
[09:05] <Snake__> looking
[09:06] <zorglu1> q. i have a ubuntu 5.10 around, can i install this one and pass it to kubuntu latter  ? or download/burning the kubuntu 5.1 better (aka less risky) ?
[09:06] <Snake__> zorglu1: You could do a server install then "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:07] <DaSkreech> zorglu1: Unless you plan on doing that a few times then it's faster to get the new cd
[09:07] <Snake__> simlu: try to "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kde" , pastebin out put
[09:07] <zorglu1> wow so you guys really got a good upgrade stuff
[09:07] <zorglu1> real nice :)
[09:07] <nox-Hand> DaSkreech: You got any idea whats wrong?
[09:07] <zorglu1> ok trying :)
[09:07] <Snake__> zorglu1: we got our ducks in a row ;)
[09:08] <DaSkreech> nox-Hand: Thought you got answered above
[09:08] <macd> of course youll have to download 900 packages first :P
[09:08] <DaSkreech> Scroll up
[09:08] <nox-Hand> DaSkreech: Will do
[09:09] <nox-Hand> squilla: Hey, what does me having a Nvidia card have to do with error I get when installing Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper?
[09:11] <mhterres> nox-Hand: what Nvidia model ?
[09:11] <simlu> snake - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13437
[09:11] <nox-Hand> mhterres: Geforce FX5200
[09:11] <nox-Hand> mhterres: What has my GFX got to do with failing install...?
[09:12] <Snake__> wtf...
[09:12] <Snake__> simlu: "sudo apt-get install -f"
[09:12] <nox-Hand> :-|
[09:12] <Snake__> simlu: then try "sudo apt-get install kde" again, tell me if it still gives you that error
[09:15] <simlu> snake - still the same error
[09:15] <Snake__> simlu: "sudo apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins"
[09:15] <Snake__> this is annoying.
[09:15] <Snake__> lol
[09:16] <simlu> snake - I think the problem is libpoppler0c2
[09:16] <Snake__> simlu: what happens when you try to install that?
[09:17] <LeeJunFan> anyone else with up-to-date dapper seeing arts going mad with RAM?
[09:17] <nox-Hand> Anyone? Does anyone have any idea why  my crashing Kubuntu 6.06 install has anything to do with my Geforce FX5200...?
[09:18] <simlu> snake - it is installed already. but the problem is that kdegraphics-kfile-plugins what's the 0.4.2-0ubuntu6, and me I have0.4.2-0ubuntu6.7
[09:18] <simlu> what's = wants
[09:18] <Snake__> simlu: im sorry man, but your problem is beyond my knowledge :(
[09:19] <cc-dash> LeeJunFan: i have no trouble with arts ...
[09:19] <Lynoure> nox-Hand: oh, poor thing. (unfortunately I'm no ubuntu guru and not having any concentration either)
[09:19] <squilla> nox_Hand: was away watching final fantasy vii - sorry
[09:20] <squilla> nvidia and ati drivers are in restricted
[09:20] <Snake__> squilla: hows that movie?
[09:20] <Lynoure> nox-Hand: Does the install crash or the Xserver fail to start? Different things and I'm not sure which you mean.
[09:21] <squilla> Snake: well - I watched the prelude that's cobbled together out of the game and then it makes sense - lovely graphics :-)
[09:21] <squilla> nox_Hand: the x-server is the only problem
[09:21] <Snake__> squilla: hmm
[09:22] <squilla> nox_Hand: i rebooted in recovery mode (option at boot time) and monted the cd and then used dpkg to install the packages in pool/restricted/l/ and pool/restricted/n
[09:23] <squilla> but there are good instructions at the following url - I got it a bit wrong earlier (was written on a physica lnotepad - so retro)
[09:23] <squilla> hold
[09:24] <simlu> is there a place where I can search for kubuntu packages?
[09:24] <simlu> and I mean something more verbose than apt-get/adept/synaptic
[09:25] <Lynoure> simlu: apt-cache search foobar
[09:25] <Lynoure> simlu: then add google, if it is not verbose enough
[09:26] <macd> simlu: you can also look at packages.ubuntu.com
[09:26] <macd> its not kubuntu specific, but has all the packages.
[09:26] <Lynoure> I often do    apt-cache search foobar barfoo | grep foobar
[09:27] <squilla> simlu:apt-get.org - but not all packages work - but it's cool because synaptic will bitch about it and refuse to install :-) - gotta love that safety belt
[09:27] <ruisu> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[09:27] <ruisu> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[09:27] <ruisu> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[09:27] <macd> simlu: you trying go from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[09:27] <macd> or just install KDE?
[09:28] <simlu> no no
[09:28] <simlu> i'm on kubuntu 5.10
[09:28] <simlu> and I decided to update my kde to 3.5
[09:28] <squilla> nox-Hand: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[09:29] <squilla> simlu: have you tried searching for "kde-desktop"
[09:29] <simlu> but a package is missing
[09:29] <macd> ahh
[09:29] <simlu> a unmet dependencies
[09:29] <macd> I just added the repo and it went flawlessly
[09:30] <simlu> so kde is now flaky. :)
[09:30] <macd> just like on dapper :)
[09:30] <beligum> Hi all, I'm experiencing some problems with OpenGL in Dapper (works perfect in Breezy). Does someone know what changed in Dapper?
[09:30] <macd> beligum: its covered in kubuntu forums
[09:30] <macd> its most likely using vesa and not your graphics driver specifcly
[09:30] <beligum> thanks for that, I'll look into it
[09:31] <Riddell> hi theine
[09:31] <Riddell> hmm, sorry, wanted theobroma
[09:31] <Lynoure> squilla: if nox-Hand was just installing ubuntu and has no x, those isntructions need heavy modifying to work.
[09:31] <beligum> no, not vesa, I'm using the nvidia proprietary driver
[09:32] <squilla> Lynoure: true - but I alsao gave him easier cli ones from booting in recovery mode
[09:32] <Lynoure> commanlinefying, rather
[09:32] <macd> ohhhh, and glx still not working, interesting
[09:32] <eriksti> what has happened with the "java-package"? it's no longer available..
[09:32] <macd> I had a lil problem with my ATI, but upon reconfiguring fglrx it works
[09:32] <beligum> well, it's working, but not as in Breezy
[09:33] <macd> does X show direct rendering?
[09:33] <beligum> I wrote a program that draws OpenGL meshes (from a .obj file) and the renderings are messed op in dapper
[09:33] <squilla> did you guys see on slashdot sun is modifying the java license? java will probably come prepackaged soon :-)
[09:33] <macd> so you have hardware gl acceleration working just the gl engine is not rendering properly
[09:34] <beligum> that's it
[09:34] <beligum> strange thing is that it worked flawlessly in breezy
[09:34] <macd> squilla: yeah and its about time, java on linux locks up my FF l
[09:34] <squilla> Lynoure: if he used aptitude from the console and searched for nvidia he should get it
[09:34] <macd> yeah, of course it changed with the move to dapper
[09:35] <macd> but its most likely a mesa issue, not distro related.
[09:35] <squilla> macd: what's FF ? soz
[09:35] <macd> firefox
[09:35] <Lynoure> squilla: I hope he knows some linux, then.
[09:35] <macd> we should proly say jre instead of java too :P
[09:36] <squilla> macd: interesting .... FF was freezing for me too - at www.wulfmorgenthaler.com - just started using konqueror instead :-)
[09:36] <beligum> Btw, I get this error on startup: ScimInputContextPlugin()
[09:36] <macd> I couldnt get jre working in konq.
[09:37] <Halitherses> where can i download your live cd to try out?
[09:37] <macd> I use opera 8xx
[09:37] <marian> hi
[09:37] <marian> is there a kubuntu+1  channel ? :P
[09:37] <macd> heh
[09:37] <squilla> Lynoure: point taken - but what else can I tell him if he can't use cli yet? ANd I'm sure he's curious and belligerent to work it out once he gets to aptitude
[09:38] <macd> Halitherses: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[09:38] <marian> I'm trying to use a  kde-window-decorator in kubuntu but it doesn't work, anyone has experience with that program?
[09:38] <Lynoure> squilla: I didn't mean to critizise you, so far you have been wonderful... and he does know the word "ping" :)
[09:38] <Halitherses> thanks
[09:38] <macd> marian: I cant even get ksplash to behave :P
[09:38] <macd> change it rewrite to config, even manualy it still uses the old one.
[09:38] <ruisu> hello?
[09:39] <macd> ruisu: yes your here
[09:39] <zorglu1> q. im installing ubuntu 5.10 on a laptop with a b44 ethernet card. apparently i got some trouble. my guess is a irq issue. i tried acpi=off noapic nolapic but nothing solve it. the b44 is recognized but timeout while trying to send (deduced from dmesg). any suggestion ?
[09:39] <marian> macd: ?
[09:39] <squilla> Lynoure:it's cool and you're right - but I "almost never " tell people they "can't do it"  - I can .. an deven though I'm incredibly good looking and virile, I'm not THAT bright :p
[09:40] <macd> hehe
[09:41] <squilla> have you guys noticed that someone who has no fear of destroying their M$ system by "clicking a button" often has an immense fear of makng a mistake by typing?
[09:42] <macd> thats b/c in the old days you had to click yes alot ;)
[09:42] <macd> I see avg users get so fustrated by just the boot process into windows,
[09:42] <squilla> macd: and complain about clicking that yes so many times too :-)
[09:43] <macd> theyre like what is all this stuff that keeps popping up then going away, I jsut tell them I dont know you installed it sometime
[09:43] <Lynoure> squilla: I agree, one shouldn't tell them that. Just help them furter if they ask for further help and one can easily provide it. Geeks and hatchlings like challenges :)
[09:43] <macd> lazy geeks dont :P
[09:43] <Lynoure> laziness is a virtue, programmers often say
[09:43] <squilla> macd: true - ubuntu is way faster on my dual boot now - although dhclient had blood leaking out my eye sockets last night
[09:44] <macd> wanna hear something really wierd
[09:44] <macd> when I moved from ndiswrapper to the kernel atheros wifi driver, the connection drops every few seconds
[09:44] <squilla> Lynoure: Then I must be the religious icon of Geeks - because Dude! I'm lazy!
[09:44] <zorglu1> you got a irq10 conflit for you b44 too ?!?! :)
[09:44] <zorglu1> damn 1sec too late :)
[09:45] <Lynoure> http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[09:45] <Lynoure> squilla: lazy like a Sunday morning or like Haskell?
[09:45] <squilla> macd: check hotplug? and then remove the damn thing
[09:46] <macd> yeah I checked hotplug, then I moved to removing the kernel atheros driver and reinstall the ndis drivers, now it wnot associate
[09:46] <squilla> Lynoure:Sunday in December somewhere around the 31st with 28 degrees celsius and warm ocean
[09:46] <macd> happened in the breezy/dapper change
[09:46] <squilla> back i ten
[09:47] <macd> and I ran depmod -a to let the kernel know the driver was gone, and its still loading as ath0 not wlan0
[09:47] <macd> its real wierd
[09:49] <Lynoure> Sinful windows adventure game time for me... .bbl
[09:50] <gringo> hi
[09:51] <gringo> witch is the best driver for ATI Mobility Cards?
[09:51] <macd> whats the exact chipset?
[09:52] <squilla> gringo: what card?
[09:52] <macd> X has good support for the igp series but radeon mobility should use the ati proprietary driver I think
[09:52] <squilla> macd: I'm back by the way - want some tea :-)
[09:52] <gringo> how can I get this information?
[09:52] <DaSkreech> So Compiz has to be rejiggered for kdewin?
[09:53] <gringo> let me check the notebook sheet
[09:53] <squilla> gringo: lspci will do it --> type "lspci | less"
[09:54] <gringo> oh thanks
[09:54] <gringo> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300] 
[09:54] <squilla> gringo: a hacker already! WOOHOO!
[09:54] <gringo> squilla: ? Oo
[09:55] <squilla> gringo: teasing -- soz :-(
[09:55] <squilla> hold on - checking the wiki
[09:55] <gringo> squilla: :D
[09:56] <gringo> I think I did some shi* yesterday :/ I tried to install xgl
[09:58] <DeBert> Is it possible to use multiple spellcheckers in KDE? I would like to use both Dutch and English.
[09:59] <squilla> gringo: looks like radeon my guy
[09:59] <squilla> at least google.co.za/linux says so
[10:00] <gringo> so wich one ist the best driver for me?
[10:00] <macd> yeah built in driver according to X works.
[10:00] <DaSkreech> DeBert: No Idea :-(
[10:00] <macd> it wouldnt hurt to use the ati proprietary driver though.
[10:01] <gringo> when I try to start ATI Control then it says: Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 extensions
[10:01] <squilla> DeBert: if you have multiple languages installed I'm guesing you can switch between them as you wish (like a decent Nokia phone) - but they won't be active at the same time
[10:02] <squilla> gringo: maybe irrelevant, but does that driver/chipset have the juice for xgl?
[10:02] <macd> the M300 doesnt use fireGL,. thats a workstation class card.
[10:03] <macd> similar to nvidia quadro
[10:03] <squilla> gringo: macd is right - use the ATI drivers from their site, otherwise try on a better card
[10:03] <gringo> I don't know if I have misconfigured the whole stuff or if the card doesn't have the power...
[10:03] <gringo> squilla: it's built in in my notebook and I don't want to change it :(
[10:03] <squilla> gringo: think Star Trek -" Captain She's gonna blow!"
[10:04] <macd> you cant change it :P
[10:04] <squilla> gringo: yeah of course - jus' try on a desktop machine
[10:04] <gringo> do you guys know if it is possible with my card to get that xgl stuff running?
[10:05] <macd> give me one sec to look
[10:06] <macd> according to some documentation its not supported.
[10:06] <gringo> damned
[10:06] <gringo> I hope it's a question of time
[10:06] <macd> th lowest IGP is 345M, and it actualy sais DRI isnt supported so that would be marginal support at best
[10:06] <squilla> gringo: nothing on google either, at least that's not in Japanese
[10:06] <macd> not time, but politics
[10:07] <macd> ATI wont release the specs, it wont get done.
[10:07] <macd> vendors are responsible for lack of hardware support in linux, not the coders
[10:07] <macd> its shit.
[10:07] <squilla> macd: geez, ah think ah'm gonna cry :-)
[10:07] <macd> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL#ATI_Cards
[10:08] <macd> gentoo none the less, but it doesnt matter.
[10:08] <gringo> I read that nvidia and ATI will release a driver when the xgl guys will have done a API
[10:08] <macd> I hard that also gringo
[10:08] <macd> but its prolly e-rumor
[10:08] <h3sp4wn> Apparantly ati is supported under X-org-7 upto 9600XT (in the release notes with the radeon driver)
[10:08] <reagleBRKLN> running kubuntu breezy, how can i get kubuntu to use a symbolic name as a mount point in /media ? (do i have to manually learn the diff between pmount hal ivman usbmount etc etc)
[10:08] <fyrmedic> Where would I find the logs for the "Guarddog" firewall
[10:08] <reagleBRKLN> and how to config them?
[10:09] <macd> ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300]  (Kororaa XGL Live CD 0.1, Freezed Machin
[10:09] <macd> looks like it doesnt work.
[10:10] <gringo> doesen't matter just wantet to try this cube effect ;)
[10:11] <gringo> I thank you for the help. I really love this community... I'll _never_ go back to Redmond
[10:12] <reagleBRKLN> hrmmm lshal -> "volume.policy.desired_mount_point = 'usbdisk'  (string)" so why not mounted there...?
[10:12] <macd> well there is a place for everything :P
[10:14] <gringo> If I get two apps to sound at the same time, is it a hardware problem?
[10:14] <gringo> Sorry, if i DON'T get...
[10:14] <nox-Hand> Hey, can anyone help me with the GUI install in the 6.06 Dapper Kubuntu Linux install? I get a crash..
[10:15] <macd> I had that with OSS moved to also all goes well
[10:15] <macd> ALSA*
[10:15] <macd> nox-Hand: there is some info on the GUI installer on the kubuntu-dapper wiki
[10:15] <gringo> macd: is it difficult to swich the sound server(?) ?
[10:15] <squilla> macd: re gringo - our work here is done :-)
[10:16] <nox-Hand> macd: Wheres that then?
[10:16] <macd> nox-Hand, try kubuntu.org follow the navigation.
[10:16] <macd> gringo, in kcontrol/sounds
[10:16] <nox-Hand> macd: Okies.
[10:17] <gringo> macd: just changing the audio device to ALSA?
[10:19] <macd> yes that solved my issues.
[10:19] <squilla> macd: second that (have nforce4 for ethernet and sound)
[10:20] <squilla> on breezy was nvidia drivers and now it's all alsa and madwifi - and the sound quality is way better
[10:20] <nox-Hand> How do i start a command line install in the dapper 6.06? I have the GUI install, but it's buggy..
[10:22] <squilla> macd: I know nought of this gui installer - you?
[10:22] <macd> I hate the madwifi!
[10:23] <macd> I just thought of that, it wasnt loading the kernel atheros drier its using the madwifi one
[10:23] <macd> hah thanks squilla
[10:23] <squilla> macd: ath_pci?
[10:23] <macd> sudo mv brain /dev/null
[10:23] <fyrmedic> Anyone know where to find the firewall log files so I can monitor them?
[10:24] <macd> no its pcmcia atheros, proxim gold to be exact.
[10:24] <macd> fyrmedic: typicaly all logs are in /var/log/
[10:24] <macd> iptables may or may not be set to log, I guess it depends on your frontend.
[10:24] <squilla> there's a gui for it now -ksystemlog?
[10:25] <nox-Hand> Automatix =)
[10:25] <fyrmedic> any idea what it is called. I am using guarddog but I think it just runs with the native system fw
[10:25] <macd> ksystemlog would be the thing you want
[10:25] <fyrmedic> ok I'll try it thanks
[10:26] <gringo> wohoooo my warzone now runs with sound *jumping around*
[10:26] <macd> look in kmenu, system, ksystemlog
[10:26] <nox-Hand> how do I start a REGULAR install for Kubuntu Linux from cli?
[10:26] <macd> gringo, nice.
[10:26] <gringo> but since I played around with xgl/ati graphics driver, opengl is very slow :(
[10:27] <macd> squilla: you on dapper?
[10:27] <Blissex> gringo: check all the elements of DRI/fglrx are the right ones for accelerated GL
[10:28] <gringo> Blissex: sorry bout my newbish beeing but how should I do that? :/
[10:28] <zorgluuu> q. i got a ubuntu 5.10 installed. what is the cmdline to get it converted to a kubuntu
[10:28] <macd> dri worked in breezy for me but I had to toy with dapper, honestly unless you need 3d, its not really needed.
[10:28] <zorgluuu> i have been told 1h ago, but i forgot
[10:28] <Blissex> gringo: the bad news is that is pretty difficult to do. To get accelerated GLX there are many bits and pieces that need to be just the right ones. There are several HOWTOs on the subject.
[10:29] <macd> zorgluuu: I do sudo pat-get remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <macd> s/pat/apt
[10:29] <gringo> Blissex: that sounds bad... I will have a look. Thank you
[10:29] <macd> of course If I could type/spell I'd be much better off.
[10:29] <zorgluuu> macd, in this order ? what if the install fails ?
[10:30] <zorgluuu> i have no more desktop ?
[10:30] <macd> what ifs are always the question
[10:30] <macd> Ive never had it fail on me
[10:30] <Seantater> you would still have a desktop
[10:30] <macd> you can just install kde and have the same thing on ubuntu
[10:30] <Seantater> uninstalling ubuntu-desktop does not remove gnome
[10:30] <nox-Hand> -_-*
[10:30] <poimen> sup!?
[10:30] <zorgluuu> cool
[10:31] <macd> Seantater: yes your correct, my mistake, it just uninstalls the meta package
[10:31] <Seantater> installing *-desktop adds the desktop and everything it needs, uninstalling it does not do anything
[10:31] <jpatrick> you need to remove the gnome libs
[10:31] <Seantater> macd: exactly
[10:31] <Blissex> gringo: there is one such HOWTO in the Ubuntu wiki, but there are several others.
[10:31] <macd> theres a good script on the ubuntu forums
[10:31] <macd> that removes all traces of gnome, and installs kde
[10:31] <Seantater> macd: however, if you can remove a specific gnome library, you can get rid of gnome altogther
[10:32] <macd> yes dependancies
[10:32] <zorgluuu> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[10:32] <zorgluuu>  <- do i have to do something to get it ?
[10:32] <Seantater> zorglu1: add universe repository
[10:32] <macd> zorgluuu: wait one sec, let me find you the script that does it
[10:32] <squilla> kubuntu-desktop or kde-desktop
[10:32] <macd> unless you want gnome and kde
[10:32] <macd> I shudder at that idea though
[10:33] <zorgluuu> Reading package lists... Done
[10:33] <zorgluuu> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:33] <zorgluuu> E: Couldn't find package kde-desktop
[10:33] <Seantater> macd: what scares you about having both?
[10:33] <Seantater> zorglu1: there is no kde-desktop package
[10:33] <Seantater> zorglu1: only kubuntu-desktop
[10:33] <macd> Seantater: its more personal I suppose, my dislike of gnome
[10:33] <squilla> I got both - but then I got two hands and feet too .. and eleven toes
[10:33] <Seantater> zorglu1: read what comes up when you say !repos
[10:34] <macd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingKDE
[10:34] <macd> thats pretty good.
[10:34] <zorgluuu> !repos
[10:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:34] <deki> hi. where can i configure my network card?
[10:34] <nagi> hi! to all
[10:35] <gringo> deki: SystemSettings->Network
[10:35] <flosch> hi deki
[10:35] <Seantater> deki: press ALT-F2 and type in kcontrol -- go for network settings
[10:35] <deki> ok thx
[10:36] <gringo> deki: i suggest to install network-manager-kde
[10:36] <nox-Hand> Anyone? I need to know ;)
[10:36] <macd> is it just me or system settings in kde is not quite kcontrol
[10:37] <squilla> yup-ish
[10:37] <macd> and why on earth would they have both...
[10:38] <squilla> macd: after all these years you shold be amazed there's only two ....
[10:38] <macd> your rite, typicly theres 10 of everything
[10:39] <zorgluuu> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[10:39] <zorgluuu>  <- from apt-get update
[10:39] <zorgluuu> but still E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[10:39] <zorgluuu> any suggestion ?
[10:39] <squilla> things are much better now - ubuntu is one of the simplest/effective systems I've used
[10:40] <uniq> zorgluuu: kubuntu-desktop in is main, not universe.
[10:40] <squilla> kanotix(sp?) may iprove on the package manager though
[10:40] <zorgluuu> uniq, main is another repository ?
[10:40] <macd> I guess you could also jsut add the kde3.5 repo and install it
[10:40] <uniq> zorgluuu: add the line 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main'
[10:41] <uniq> zorgluuu: main is the main repository.
[10:41] <macd> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main
[10:41] <macd> if you want kde3.5
[10:41] <macd> uniq: I think hes on breezy not dapper
[10:42] <uniq> macd: oh.. very bad mistake.
[10:42] <zorgluuu> i am on ubuntu 5.10 trying to pass it kubuntu 5,19
[10:42] <uniq> good observation.
[10:42] <zorgluuu> 10
[10:42] <squilla> type "cat /etc/issue" and we will know
[10:42] <zorgluuu> and new keyboard doesnt help ;9
[10:42] <uniq> zorgluuu: please use 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main' not dapper.
[10:43] <zorgluuu> root@jmehost2:/proc# cat /etc/issue
[10:43] <zorgluuu> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[10:43] <zorgluuu> uniq, ok im new to ubuntu, where should i put that
[10:43] <zorgluuu> /etc/apt/something ?
[10:43] <uniq> zorgluuu: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:44] <macd> do you think kde3.5 would be better :P
[10:44] <macd> I do
[10:45] <zorgluuu> ok it worked :)
[10:45] <zorgluuu> downloading 430mbyte now
[10:45] <macd> heh
[10:45] <zorgluuu> thanks guys
[10:45] <zorgluuu> damn i hate new keyboard
[10:45] <macd> I think Im going to setup a local repo I feel bad having 6 or 7 machines hit the mains all the time
[10:46] <zorgluuu> well they have a real fat pipe
[10:46] <zorgluuu> i download a 1mbyte/s
[10:46] <macd> I did some contract work for a company that had about 110 dekstops running ubuntu, think of how much traffic they could save wan side from alocal repo
[10:47] <macd> yeah@1meg/s, thats about typical for the repos
[10:47] <macd> most people dont have over 1mbit :P
[10:47] <zorgluuu> Fetched 142MB in 2m22s (996kB/s)
[10:47] <zorgluuu> real fat pipe :)
[10:48] <zorgluuu> in fact they likely got a cache, because im in europe and the site is supposed to be in the us
[10:49] <macd> they have local mirrors ya know
[10:49] <macd> replce the us.bleh with your local mirror.blah
[10:50] <zorgluuu> macd, why dont they do the usual 'you are in europe as from the install, so i put eu.ubuntu.balbal'
[10:50] <zorgluuu> i will change it
[10:50] <zorgluuu> ok changing desktop
[10:50] <macd> I hope he doesnt change it to eu, I dont know if thats the europe mirrors
[10:50] <gringo> can somebody take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13445   what sould I do now? :/
[10:52] <crimsun> gringo: try kubuntu dapper beta *2*
[10:52] <_jerome> you guys did a impressive job on the installation stuff
[10:52] <crimsun> (which already has 8.24.2)
[10:52] <gringo> crimsun: got it already
[10:52] <crimsun> 8.24.8, rather
[10:53] <crimsun> gringo: so why are you attempting to install the drivers?
[10:53] <gringo> crimsun: but I played around with xgl and now open gl is very slow
[10:53] <_jerome> but 5.10 kubuntu is a lot less beatifull than 6,0
[10:53] <_jerome> stability takes its toll
[10:54] <nox-Hand> squilla, Hey, I did not find anything, I have a mate over, and am going to watch some TV now, so gotta go. Maybe tomorrow :) Laters!
[10:54] <crimsun> gringo: there's no need to reinstall the drivers. Did you revert your symlink change?
[10:54] <squilla> nox-Hand: Cheers :-)
[10:55] <gringo> crimsun: ahm uh *sigh* sorry I don't understand as I am a newbie :(
[10:55] <nox-Hand> squilla, Downloading regular Kubuntu. Laters!
[10:55] <crimsun> gringo: how did you enable Xgl?
[10:56] <gringo> crimsun: installed a lot of packets including the restricted kernel modules
[10:57] <crimsun> gringo: right, but what did you do with the X Window System?
[10:57] <gringo> crimsun: I changed no configuration file if you mean that
[10:58] <crimsun> gringo: did you follow a howto? If so, what's its url?
[10:59] <gringo> crimsun: i took some information from here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090 and some all over the web
[10:59] <crimsun> ok, I'll look in a bit
[10:59] <crimsun> (phone call)
[11:02] <squilla> gringo: pastebin this file : /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:03] <hiasll> anybody know where i can get the samr audio codec?
[11:03] <gringo> squilla: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13449
[11:03] <hiasll> i have copied a 3gp file from my mobilephone. video works audio doesnt
[11:18] <DaSkreech> Is there a kparted?
[11:19] <jpatrick> DaSkreech: I'm sorry to tell you: never heard of one
[11:19] <DaSkreech> Is there a blessed KDE partition manager?
[11:21] <gringo> re
[11:21] <gringo> my opengl seems to work again :D
[11:22] <gringo> but it amaroK is running i still have no sound in warzone2100 (i already switched to alsa)
[11:24] <Zerak> where can i get libc libraries so i can compile a interface for nvidia drivers under dapper drake
[11:25] <uniq> install the 'build-essential' package.
[11:26] <uniq> there is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:26] <zorgluuu> q. how can i configure keyboard shortcut under kde ? like alt-f5 is goto desktop5
[11:27] <DaSkreech> Ctrl-F5 gores to Desktop 5
[11:27] <DaSkreech> goes
[11:27] <DaSkreech> !format
[11:27] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DaSkreech
[11:28] <zorgluuu> ds
[11:28] <zorgluuu> DaSkreech: yep but i want alt :)
[11:29] <DaSkreech> zorgluuu: try under accessibilty in the the System Settings
[11:29] <Zerak> will try the first or do they keep the drivers uptodate when downloading with manager
[11:29] <uniq> zorgluuu: system settings -> regional & accessibility -> hotkeys -> shortcut schemes (tab)
[11:29] <zorgluuu> thanks
[11:29] <Zerak> going to restart and see, thank you guys, i got a lot of problems but i run a beta on the other hand =)
[11:30] <DaSkreech> Blast how do I parition and format in KDE/ :-(
[11:31] <uniq> daskreech: use qtparted. it's in the universe repository.
[11:31] <DaSkreech> qtparted
[11:32] <slow-motion> hallo
[11:35] <squilla> hi
[11:36] <beast> hi Riddell
[11:56] <rUiSu> so
[11:57] <klarkin> indeed
[11:57] <rUiSu> how do i make a script that doesnt need the root password>?
[11:57] <rUiSu> hello?
[11:58] <klarkin> i prefer a blend of lazy linux(ubuntu) and ./compile from src
[11:59] <klarkin> i wish i could offer more
[11:59] <h3sp4wn> rUiSu: run the script with sudo and then it will run as root
[11:59] <rUiSu> but, the sudo asks me the root assword
[11:59] <rUiSu> and i need the crispt every time the machine is booted
[11:59] <h3sp4wn> rUiSu: it asks you for your password
[12:00] <rUiSu> no, because in that script i run 2 programs that need to be used as root
[12:00] <h3sp4wn> rUiSu: put the script in rcS.d with a relevant number - (If there is a better way someone tell me)
[12:00] <rUiSu> hm
[12:01] <rUiSu> thanks
[12:01] <rUiSu> in rcS.d?
[12:01] <rUiSu> ok, ill try that
[12:01] <rUiSu> thx