[12:03] book form seems nice to me === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:07] ok, I'll mail the list [12:14] man I need to proof read my emails [12:15] hehe, that's why I dislike emails and bug reports but love the wiki ;-) [12:22] sleep. night all [12:22] good night mdke === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru__ [n=poningru@ip24-250-224-132.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt__ [n=mpt@203-109-236-140.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203-109-236-140.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-15-192.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:40] hi all [06:41] hey Madpilot [06:41] sorry, i lost track of the script we were working on [06:42] np [06:42] i made it slightly better,still not very useful [06:42] salut Madpilot [06:42] hi Burgundavia [06:43] robotgeek, I was going to write a note to the mailing list (and cc it to the art list) about the covers & the script we were planning [06:46] Next was getting qtruby working using Ruby extconf.rb script for the extension. That worked as long as I did it from the mingw shell, and not from the others. I found that to build Qt and QtRuby I had to use all three shells at different times. So after a bit of handing hacking the generated Makefile, I found the qtruby code compiled without much problems and only a couple of minor things needing fixing such as a call to vasprintf that mingw [06:46] There are still some issues to be sorted out with the port, such as a garbage collection bug which causes half the Qt examples to crash unless they're run with 'GC.disable', but apart from that the Windows version works great. [06:46] shit. sorry [06:46] http://rafb.net/paste/results/XUsBb578.html [06:46] wrong paste? [06:46] the url is correct one [06:46] thought so [06:46] i had no idea what was in the clipboard, freaking middle button :P [06:46] I need to send a note to the Inkscape list asking about the inkscape command line stuff - "man inkscape" is less than helpful (surprise, surprise...) ;) [06:46] oh, if we could do that, it would be nice. i did get the strings this time, works with Kubuntu too, [06:46] will not work if something changes more "drastically" [06:47] Inkscape can take an svg and output a PNG from cli - but I can't figure out the blasted syntax... [06:49] lemme see [06:49] -e, --export-png=FILENAME [06:49] Madpilot: man inkscape may have been written by the debian packager [06:49] Burgundavia, could have been - it seems complete, but it's one of those "you have to know this stuff already" man pages... [06:50] robotgeek, found that, but "inkscape --export-png=foo.svg" doesn't seem to produce foo.png - I'm missing something... [06:51] Madpilot: i think you might need inkscape -e=foo.png foo.svg? [06:51] could be -the man page isn't clear [06:52] seems to have worked for me [06:52] cool - let me see [06:53] let me try it here, rather :P === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:59] h guys [07:59] err hi [08:00] hi rob [08:00] there are a couple of documentation ideas on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2006 worth looking at [08:00] I've added mine to the list also [08:00] hi Madpilot === GrahamW [n=gjwill@bus-210-211-97-141.act.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203-109-236-140.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-109-236-140.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:00] morning [09:00] hi mdke [09:00] evening === mpt__ [n=mpt@203-109-236-140.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:00] have you seen that link? [09:00] no, I just woke uip [09:01] oh :) [09:06] mdke: hmm, bzr submit by mail would be sort of interesting for use perhaps [09:08] Laser_away: what does it do? [09:09] mdke: We'd like to submit changesets and/or merge requests by gpg-signed mail. This mainly requires calculating which revisions need to be sent, and packing them up into an appropriate form for transmission, including a gpg signature for their testament. [09:11] ok [09:13] sorry going to bed. I'll be back in the morning :-) [09:15] night === mpt [n=mpt@203-109-236-140.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Cturtle [n=Cturtle@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-109-236-140.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Ex-Chat"] === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt__ [n=mpt@203-109-236-140.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-109-236-140.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zareous [n=gjwill@bus-210-211-97-141.act.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zareous is now known as GrahamW === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team - general discussion - backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | Website http://doc.ubuntu.com | Get involved: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu community code of conduct @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda | === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by Madpilot at Thu Apr 20 04:11:03 2006 === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team - general discussion - backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | Website http://doc.ubuntu.com | Get involved: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu community code of conduct @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda | === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by Madpilot at Thu Apr 20 04:11:03 2006 === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:26] mdke: ping? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:46] dja vu [06:47] mmm?? [06:47] hi :) === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === bojicas [n=bojicas@217.164.238.29] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:04] LaserJock: pong [08:06] mdke: heh, I'm trying to remember what I pinged you for [08:06] just to say hi? [08:06] mdke: oh yes, I was going to go through my print copy and fix as much as I can [08:07] and I was still a little uncertain of what does and doesn't get translated [08:07] I'd like to avoid messing up translators as much as possible [08:07] LaserJock: yeah, try to avoid changing too many strings, unless there are really bad things there. [08:08] bear in mind that long paragraphs are time consuming to translate, whereas short strings aren't [08:08] but if they aren't translated then there shouldn't be any harm, right? like urls [08:08] if you change a url, you change the whole paragraph that it is in. [08:08] so that has to be retranslated [08:08] hmm, that stinks. ok, I'll try to keep that in mind [08:10] I just have to remember to think of things in paragraph chunks rather than sentence chunks [08:10] that's it. === dsas [n=dean@host86-128-54-11.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda-away [n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:53] LaserJock, you around? [10:54] yes [10:54] LaserJock, just looking at the EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy thing [10:54] very cool doc, but I noticed two big issues [10:54] first, organization. Tell me what it does, and then what is looks liek [10:55] second, I would organize the apps by what they do, rather than what they are [10:55] ie, put kstars under Stellarium, not kstars [10:55] working on both those issues right now [10:55] remember, teachers think in terms of lesson plans and specific topics [10:55] also, did you see the edits I made? [10:56] yeah, didn't look at them in great detail [10:56] ok [10:56] I cleaned up the first two sections [10:56] does something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy/LaserJock look better? [10:57] just a sec [10:57] yep [10:57] I would also avoid talking about duplicative things, like mplayer [10:58] concentrate on the default install [10:58] yes, I just told them to scratch mplayer [10:59] mplayer is something old linux users love, but new ones hate [10:59] what about the question headings? [10:59] question headings? [10:59] on EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy [11:00] there are several sections that have a question as the heading [11:00] "What applications are installed?" and "Is it difficult to learn?" for instance [11:00] LaserJock, I would have a small section on common questions and have all the questions there [11:00] nothing duplicative [11:01] also, cut down the lenght [11:01] I assume the target audience is a brochure for teachers/etc. to look at [11:02] so maybe put a Q&A section that answers the short little questions rather than have a section for each one? [11:02] I think that assumption is correct [11:06] LaserJock: initially, all of them were questions, so i started converting some of them away from it (i didn't like the questions), i intend to move it all away from the questions [11:07] highvoltage: good [11:09] Internal Server Error [11:09] *sigh* i think i break the wiki when i try to edit stuff [11:09] ah, there it's fine again === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:58] jsgotangco: MANILA (Reuters) - A Philippine judge who claimed he could see into the future and admitted consulting imaginary mystic dwarfs has asked for his job back after being fired by the country's Supreme Court. [11:58] awesome. [12:00] mdke, people are wierd the world over [12:00] mdke, a former PM of Canada admitted to talking to his dead mother through his dog [12:01] these things do happen. [12:03] Burgwork: I wonder if there would be translational issues ;-) [12:03] "Privately, he was highly eccentric with his preference for consulting spirits, including those of Leonardo da Vinci, Louis Pasteur, Sir Wilfrid Laurier, his dead mother and his dog, Pat." [12:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lyon_Mackenzie_King#Personal_life