=== mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] morning === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:18] hi ajmitch [12:19] ah, we do have life === kiko [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Left] === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-75-110.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === alexandros_se [n=olivia@2-1-1-18a.spa.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] Hello, [12:46] I would like to get in contact (e-mail?) with Mark Shuttleworth === marcin_ [n=marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:48] anyone? === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spiff [n=anders@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:57] alexandros_se: hmm, not sure what his prefered address is [12:57] LaserJock, mkay :/ [12:58] alexandros_se: I'd check out his Launchpad page: https://launchpad.net/people/sabdfl [12:58] alexandros_se: but I've only talked with him on IRC [12:59] he use nickname sabdfl on irc? [01:01] yeah === TerminX [n=terminx@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0144.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik is now known as carthik_cook === carthik_cook plans to make Kerala style egg curry ;) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik_cook [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru__ [n=poningru@ip24-250-224-132.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0144.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] is there any way to get a UVF exception for gotmail ??? [03:28] right now gotmail in dapper is unusable [03:29] and it just needs a sync from debian unstable to work... [03:29] infinito: seems hard to get UVFe now,but you can have a try [03:30] freeflying: what can i do?? i'm not motu... [03:31] infinito: file a bug on it, attach the diffstat and changelog, also the build log ,then assign it to motu-uvf === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] hi all [03:32] hi zakame [03:33] zakame: hey [03:33] hi zul and freeflying [03:34] freeflying: sorry but... how do i get the diffstat? [03:35] infinito: diff -ruN oldsource newsource | diffstat > filename_you_wanna_use [03:35] freeflying: thanks! [03:41] freeflying: there's a bugreport already, im gonna attach diffstat and buildlog, but should i assign it to motu-uvf? [03:41] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gotmail/+bug/41650 [03:41] Malone bug 41650 in gotmail "gotmail 0.8.9 is out, with an important fix" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [03:41] yep [03:41] infinito: sure [03:41] freeflying: ok [03:54] gruuu. [03:54] just spent the past three hours chasing down #31699 === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === at1as [n=at1as@24-247-15-243.static.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik_cook is now known as carthik [05:57] ugh [05:57] wallpaper-tray FTBFS [05:57] hmmmm? [05:58] zul: i was going to have a look at a couple of (seemingly simple to fix) bugs in wallpaper-tray but it won't build [05:58] whats wrong with it? [05:59] welshbyte: built fine here [06:00] really? hmm [06:00] what did you build it with? [06:00] apt-get source and debuild [06:05] ah i see, it does build from source but when you change the source (i deleted 2 characters) it gives a "collect2: ld returned 1 exit status" and fails [06:07] unknown symbols cause link failure, news at 11 === welshbyte slaps himself with a header file at 5am === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mithrandir waves [06:20] hey Mithrandir :) [06:20] hello Hobbsee [06:21] how's your day been? === Hobbsee has cleared out rubbish from ~/.kde so it works much faster :D [06:21] ah yeah, interesting - came home from uni early :P === No1Viking [n=No4Vikin@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] rubbish! === Mithrandir has slept about six hours this night and is so bloody tired. [06:23] hehe === Hobbsee hands Mithrandir a replacement pillow, aka a keyboard [06:24] nah, I'm going to the gym in about half an hour, just need to start livefs builds, read a bit of email and get some food first. [06:27] ah, fun [06:34] night [06:36] afternoon === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mongoose [n=mongoose@ip68-106-216-206.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0610.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] good morning === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] hey dholbach [08:06] hey Hobbsee === carthik is now known as carthik_zzz === zakame hugs dholbach === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@42.42.64-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:49] hello [08:51] my uploads to universe are silently discarded, why ? I've set distribution to dapper, upload using dput to upload.ubuntu.com, used my gpg key to sign the source.changes file...any idea ? [08:51] ask in -devel or #launchpad [08:52] someone will have access to the upload logs [08:52] ajmitch: thank you :) [08:53] from what I can see on launchpad, you're part of the right teams, signed the CoC, etc [08:53] so if the source package is universe, it should be accepted [08:54] ajmitch : yes, I already uploaded, and since a few days I cannot :/ [08:54] I don't *think* packages are being held in a queue right now [08:54] though with flight-7 freeze it's quite possible [08:55] eg if publisher has been stopped to avoid unnecessary uploads [08:55] ajmitch: only concern main, isn't it ? [08:55] if publisher is stopped, it affects all [08:55] I don't know how fine-grained the launchpad freezing might be at the moment [08:55] mmm... the topic on -dev says it only affect main [08:56] yes [08:56] but it may affect universe for technical reasons [08:56] though I've seen a few zul uploads today === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@217.19.180.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:56] I've asked on -dev, just have to wait a little :) === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.78.45] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mongoose is away: /_\ zzZzZZZZzz === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.78.45] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] can somebody please slap mongoose and tell him to turn off public away next time he joins? He's been doing that for ages. [09:09] gladly === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] (and he always quits after he does /away so I never remember to do it myself) [09:11] Mithrandir: you should send him a memo :) === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink_ [n=raphink@217.19.180.91] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@217.19.180.111] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=ryu@p5487DCDB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === popey [n=popey@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pontifex [n=pontifex@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-54-78.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-54-78.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === alexandros_se [n=alex@2-1-1-18a.spa.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-081-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jbailey [n=jbailey@217.19.180.89] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:43] hi MOTUs [10:43] hi [10:43] hi ajmitch === jbailey [n=jbailey@217.19.180.89] has left #ubuntu-motu ["kthxbye"] === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blixtra [n=chris@i577B02BB.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU === allee [n=ach@217.19.180.111] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@217.19.180.91] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aa_ [n=ali@host81-153-24-248.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:40] Hi, I made a UVF request yesterday, and promptly told there is not enough information. The request is https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pida/+bug/42882/+index [11:40] Malone bug 42882 in pida "PIDA version in dapper is very old" [Normal,Needs info] [11:45] well, anyway, I did my best, and I was just trying to help you guys. So well, when you spend your lunch doing something, and someone just says "Not enough info, NEXT" think about it, the poor guy already wrote the software. The software already got updated in Sid (not to mention all other major linuxes and even minor linuxes). And then you will wonder why I start publicly recommending to my users to use a different distro of [11:46] this is not a flame, but really, sometimes you need to just think. Thank-you. :) [11:47] aa_: your position here presumes that there is no risk in the upgrade [11:48] lifeless: I have no firm position, I just wrote the software, and get asked approximately 5 times a day why the version in ubuntu is so old [11:48] the answer "it will be updated soon" is not washing since "people keep telling me it is also in Sid" [11:49] aa_: well, your uvf exception request clearly lacks information, there's no diffstat, no changelog diff and no buildlog [11:50] of course, I am not doing this for your benefits, in particular, it is a really old and crappy version [11:50] Toadstool: I chatted to the main dude of universe [11:51] Toadstool: I was to be represented in these matters by the debian package [11:51] (since I am not a package maintainer, I don't even know how to make a deb) === ukh [n=ukh@130.226.34.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:52] now, if you really want the author of a piece of software to download a debian package, download a ubuntu package and diff them... [11:52] I think you might be on planet la-la [11:52] (but of course, maybe I am entirely missing the point) [11:53] there are 16000 software packages in ubuntu [11:53] and fedora and suse and all the others [11:53] no [11:53] I am not complaining! [11:53] debian has ~13000 software packages [11:53] fedora is < 8000 last I heard [11:53] ok, ok [11:53] don't know the exact figure on suse [11:53] furthermore there are only three dev' processing this kind of bugs and they have a lot of work aside too as we're about only 3 weeks far from release... they don't have time to download each package and check the diffs [11:53] but please, there is no reason to make excuses [11:54] Toadstool: maintainers are not devs. Devs wrote the stuff. [11:54] I meant Ubuntu devs [11:55] anyway, yes I agree it is hard and everything [11:55] but, do we want the best linux or not? [11:55] Toadstool: after chatting with the universe chap we decided that an upstream debian version bump was enough evidence. Maybe I misunderstood *him* [11:56] sorry for the noise, but I'm an old debian die-hard and an ubuntu newbie. is there anything equivalent to buildd.debian.org? that is official build logs? or is there a "Ubuntu-for-Debian-People-FAQ"? [11:57] ukh: everything's on launchpad :) === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [11:57] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/beagle/ [11:57] from the source overview === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:57] you can drill down to a single version [11:57] and see its logs [11:58] aa_: you'd better ask dholbach again then, I can't speak for him and according to your bug report it's the MOTU you spoke with [11:59] hmm, ok I shall, although I have wasted enough time on this. [11:59] tseng: ah, thanks! :-) [11:59] ukh: np. [11:59] aa_: he's in charge for universe uvf exceptions with slomo_ and siretart [12:00] Toadstool: might just be easier to write ubuntu into a specific exclusion license. It would make me giggle too, and give me massive infamy and advertisement...hmmm [12:00] no I have it [12:01] "security" [12:01] that doesnt fit into anyones definition of free software, if you are suggesting what i think [12:01] muahah, is there a "security" path? [12:01] aa_: "release schedule" in fact [12:01] mmm. too bad, "Build log: not available" for the one I'm looking for. oh well. [12:02] tseng: doesn't really matter, only ubuntu users will be affected (sad since I am one of them) [I am just kidding] [12:02] Toadstool: well, the version in current ubuntu has huge huge security holes, where can I advertise this, is there a separate tracker? [12:03] nope, but you can add that kind of information to the already opened bug report along with the diffstat and so on [12:04] hmm, I am trying not to get angry :) [12:04] hysterics here isnt going to help you very much [12:04] right [12:05] is there a developer here that might understand the point of view of another developer? [12:06] you have spoke to several today [12:06] +n [12:06] do you package your own software? [12:06] (if I may ask) [12:07] not exactly, no [12:07] "my own" software cant be distributed outside my company [12:08] i package software from projects that i am involved in, but i dont "own" then by any strech [12:08] but you might understand how I am frustrated that the version in dapper was released before hoary? [12:08] has it changed in Debian since hoary? [12:08] yes! [12:08] to be very honest [12:09] you can blame you/your users for that [12:09] we have something like 30 packagers at present [12:09] ok, then tell me what me/my users shuld do to fix it please [12:09] if no one steps up for their favorite out of 15,000 [12:09] it wont be worked on [12:10] should we release an unofficial deb for ubuntu? [12:10] what is this business about "I have updated the report" [12:10] I updated the initial report [12:10] what is the initial report [12:10] I wasn't aware launchpad had such amazing diffing features at the time :) [12:11] the initial bug report [12:11] ... [12:11] i am looking at it [12:11] what did you change [12:11] oh, the description? [12:11] here's your problem [12:11] he asked you to go read the proceedure for filing for a UVF exception [12:11] and as far as I can tell, you have made two edits [12:12] I discussed the procedure with a motu [12:12] and gotten no closer to complying [12:12] ok, so where is the ChangeLog diff [12:12] and diffstat? [12:12] he told me what is needed [12:12] he also told me, that I would not need a new package [12:12] ok so what is all the trouble [12:13] and that the newer debian package would support me for the diff stuff [12:13] who is "he" [12:13] you want me to download the debian package? [12:13] no [12:13] I want you to attach a changelog diff and full diffstat, if i am not missing something [12:13] you know what, I am going to upload a 15M diffstat just to make you happy [12:13] aa_: a diffstat not a diff [12:14] you already uploaded the entire diff [12:14] do you know what diffstat is? [12:14] yes [12:14] I'll do it really [12:14] so how could it possibly be bigger than the full diff [12:14] the fact that it is a complete rewrite, probably passed you guys by on the bug report [12:15] yes, not 15M really :) === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] anyway, I'll do it, why not [12:15] we have pretty simple policy for requesting UVF, you didnt follow it. it was pointed out to you nicely [12:15] after all, who keeps tarballs of software they haven't used for a year [12:16] now you are here making a fuss over it, and it still isnt done properly [12:16] lucky I am the developer really :) [12:16] no no, give me a few minutes to comply [12:16] the tarball is in the ubuntu archive [12:16] hi all [12:16] hey zakame [12:16] bye zakame [12:17] hey Toadstool ,bye tseng [12:20] ok, now on the UVF procedure it says a "diffstat of the upstream tarballs" [12:20] is that what you really really want? [12:20] I want [12:20] untar oldversion [12:20] untar newversion [12:20] diff -ruN old new | diffstat > your-diffstat [12:21] right [12:21] diff -ruN old/changelog new/changelog [12:21] or a diffstat between debdiffs [12:21] but I am just following the procedure [12:21] ali@book:~/tmp$ diffstat pida-0.3.1.tar pida_0.2.2.tar 0 files changed [12:21] zakame: lets not complicate this any more [12:21] oh jeez [12:21] s#debdiff#dsc# [12:21] you know what it meant [12:21] ok [12:21] yes I did [12:21] tseng: oops sorry [12:21] just pointing to the fact that if you are going to be exact, please be exact :) === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] what am I doing wrong with kdevelop3? [12:32] grrr, s#binar-#binary-# [12:32] i didnt know # worked as an fs [12:32] cool [12:32] i use / or : [12:33] in perl it is usable :) [12:33] oh [12:33] in sed also [12:33] probably not in other re's [12:33] $ echo foo | sed -e "s#foo#bar#g" [12:33] bar [12:33] now that i didn't know, cool! =) [12:34] eh [12:34] $ echo foo | sed -e "s}foo}bar}g" [12:34] bar [12:34] i think you can use about anything [12:35] hehe === irvin [n=vx@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] tseng: I have attached the specific changelog between the svn release tags, is that satisfactory? [12:37] it asks for a changelog diff, which I think amounts to the same thing anyway [12:38] ok that sounds fine === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] right, while this is becoming fun, I may as welll attach the NEWS file too [12:44] I guess so [12:45] hey tseng [12:45] hi [12:51] well, I set the status from needs info, back to uncomfirmied, is this the best way to get it reviewed? [12:52] yes [12:52] excellent, many thanks for your help, have a nice day [12:52] yup [12:52] thank you [12:52] and yours too aa_, thanks for helping us! =) === jbailey [n=jbailey@217.19.180.89] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] hi jbailey === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] hey jeff! [12:54] Heya. Sorry for popping in and out. [12:54] I'm at a trade show, and people keep asking me about MOTU stuff. [12:55] ooh! [12:55] ah heh.. [12:55] So I log into the channel to point them to the URLs in the title. [12:55] just hang aroud, then? === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] hi people [01:00] hi phanatic [01:00] hey zakame === at1as [n=at1as@24-247-15-243.static.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd_ [n=dewd@201009199066.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] Mithrandir: My machine's been hanging. === ealden [n=ealden@203.177.220.155] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@85-250-96-3.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] Sun plans to alter its licensing to make it easier to bundle Java Runtime Environment with Linux. [02:31] apt-get install jdk1.5 anyone :-) [02:31] JRE != JDK, though === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] Right, thats why I said jdk [02:33] I do some development in java. === popey [n=popey@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pontifex [n=pontifex@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AF871.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] hey all === carthik_zzz [n=carthik@user-0cej755.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] Preparing a changed source that will eventually get infinitiy's approval and and be NEW'd for its binary as well, would anybody be on for sponsering its upload ? [03:10] (this is about homeUserBAckup) === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 is now known as ergo-bolik === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.78.45] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ergo-bolik is now known as vud1 === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] Heya gang [03:30] hi bddebian [03:31] Heya Hobbsee === Hobbsee croaks, instead of speakign normally :P [03:31] hi bddebian, Hobbsee [03:31] hello * [03:32] hey Mithrandir [03:32] hi ajmitch [03:32] Heya Mithrandir === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-54-78.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] hi all === vurdak [n=vurdak@151.56.78.45] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] hi from linuxtag/wiesbaden! :) [03:34] heya siretart [03:34] I'll be there tomorrow [03:35] heya siretart ! :D [03:35] me too [03:35] hey siretart [03:35] azeem: cool! let's meet at the debian booth then :) [03:35] ogra: cool! :) [03:36] huhu ajmitch [03:36] siretart: I saw you were interested in NetworkAuthentication for paris? [03:37] ajmitch: I'm always interested in that. Thats why I started to work on wpa_supplicant with kelmo [03:37] siretart: right, I'm putting in an application to do it as a SoC project === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] well, I'm getting there with the application :) [03:38] ajmitch: sounds great! :) [03:39] however I doubt I can get to paris to talk about it :) [03:40] exams tend to stop that, yes :P === ajmitch could just skip them [03:42] no! [03:42] you have to pass the things! === zakame cheers ajmitch on :D === Hobbsee contemplates skipping her exams too === bddebian has no exams.. mwuhahaha [03:49] any of the happy gang care to check out my package and upload teh source ? :) === Hobbsee assigns all the bugs in malone to bddebian [03:54] bddebian: that's your exam... [03:56] Hobbsee: Ouch :-) [03:56] you have 23 hours... [03:58] Hobbsee: you're a harsh mistress [03:58] heh [03:58] hehe yep. you may address me as your Queen :P === Mithrandir waits for the rsync to complete === zakame is enjoying the hot Philippine summer === bddebian bows to Hobbsee === _newbie_ [n=MUAHAHAH@bl4-80-239.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:59] Hobbsee: now I guess you really do have to go for MOTU [03:59] haha! [04:00] whyever should i, when i can just poke people like you to upload for me? :P [04:01] Hobbsee: lol [04:01] heh === Hobbsee wonders how good keyboards act as a pillow substitute [04:11] they're quite inferior [04:14] hmmm... === ryu [n=ryu@p5487DCDB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:14] so people make better pillows? [04:16] depedesn on the person I guess :p [04:17] hehe === mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang waits for someone with upload privs to take interest in upload hubackup from revu soon [04:24] Hobbsee: i'v fell asleep at my computer before, with my head on keyboard, ended up with a lot of keys indented in my face [04:24] hehe! === Hobbsee has done that with her watch before, at school :P [04:26] bddebian: what do you say about uploading a new source for upbackup which is now hubackup? [04:26] bddebian: I'm trying to get this baby in the archive for a week or more now :) [04:27] sivang: I thought it already went up? [04:27] bddebian: no quite, had soem issues that Adam spotted for the bin pacage. I now have a new source, with all the required changes hopefully, and with a new name , final . [04:31] ack, my touchpad is on drugs! [04:35] Hobbsee: T43 ? [04:35] sivang: huh? no, toshiba a10 satellite [04:37] Should we remove pcsx from the archive? Bug #41501 [04:37] Malone bug 41501 in pcsx "[unclear] [UNMETDEPS] pcsx has unmet dependencies" [Normal,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41501 [04:40] ANyone, anyone,... Buehler === at1as [n=at1as@24-247-15-243.static.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] bddebian: source is in REVU at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2321 === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] bddebian: can see if you can upload it? it has been already reviewed in the previous name by slomo_ and another MOTU [05:03] bddebian: so I don't reckon there should be too many issues relating to it. [05:03] where's hub btw? ;) [05:03] slomo_: hehe === sivang hugs slomo_ [05:04] slomo_: how have you been due? [05:04] dude, eve [05:04] i need to talk to him this time... and now he's not here ;) [05:04] hm extremely tired and busy lately :/ [05:04] slomo_: oh, busy too much with school? [05:05] sivang: university, yes... and you? [05:07] slomo_: dayjob tireing and boring as always , trying to get HUB on the archive finally (now with fixes as requested by infinity) , changed the package name at last :) [05:07] oh it wasn't accepted yet? [05:07] slomo_: tearing up between dayjob commitments and ubuntu work :) [05:07] awww [05:08] slomo_: no, Adam requested to remove the versioned depdencies against the ones against which it was un neccessary, [05:08] slomo_: and to drop coreutil since it an essential package [05:08] sivang: OK, seems to build OK, should I upload or is slomo_ wanting to do it? [05:08] slomo_: so it makes no sense to depend on it. [05:09] bddebian: i'm not doing anything except eating cookies currently ;) [05:09] slomo_: I haven't changed anything besides refactoring: [05:09] slomo_: Good, have any thoughts about removing pcsx? Bug #41501 [05:09] Malone bug 41501 in pcsx "[unclear] [UNMETDEPS] pcsx has unmet dependencies" [Normal,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41501 [05:09] slomo_: s/UPBackup/HUBackup/ [05:09] slomo_: and s/upbackup/hubackup/ and s/uprestore/hurestore/ [05:09] sivang: uploaded [05:09] slomo_: throughout the sources [05:09] bddebian: yay thanks!! [05:10] bddebian: now I'll go bug infinity :) [05:10] or Kamion, or whatever [05:10] bddebian: hm, i would get the dependencies in if there isn't a good reason to do not and it fixes the problem [05:10] bddebian: why remove something that could work? ;) === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] slomo_: thanks for fixing gdesklets :-) === selinium [n=selinium@82-34-184-89.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] LaserJock: np :) === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] slomo_: my computer still seem messed up from that dh_iconcache thing [05:35] LaserJock: please "grep \#ICONDIR\# /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.postrm" === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] slomo_: what would I replace it with? I don't have access to the machine at the moment :-/ [05:36] LaserJock: if there's nothing you have another problem and should upload rebuilds of those packages [05:36] LaserJock: and if there's something do the same ;) [05:36] don't replace it with anything... just upload a rebuild and wait :) [05:37] well I have, the problem was that it can't uninstall the package that was already there, I thought [05:37] maybe I'll try again when I get home [05:37] but it can update without problems normally [05:37] the icon stuff is in postrm which is afaik only called on a real remove [05:38] well, I'll try it again, but before it was still giving me the error even though I hade a corrected upload [05:39] but maybe it is all better now === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | We are in feature freeze now. Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DhIconCacheChanges and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by dholbach at Thu Apr 27 10:51:45 2006 === selinium [n=selinium@82-34-184-89.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | We are in feature freeze now. Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DhIconCacheChanges and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by dholbach at Thu Apr 27 10:51:45 2006 === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:58] bddebian: at least you got an answer this thim ;-) [05:58] s/thim/time/ [06:06] Yeah and I thought just Kamion and infinity hated me :-) === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:10] hi, are there any plans to package http://home.gna.org/gaupol/ in the universe? [06:11] TomaszD: look at the UniverseCandidates wiki page and REVU please [06:11] ok, will do LaserJock [06:12] yay, source accepted [06:12] nope, no gaupol on either of the pages === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] hi people [06:15] heya phanatic [06:15] hey Gloubiboulga :) === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] hi tuxmaniac === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] LaserJock: Will brb.. === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:47] LaserJock: Hi === pef [n=loic@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] welcome back tuxmaniac [06:49] LaserJock: Can I delte my comment on a bug from launchpad [06:50] tuxmaniac: nope [06:50] LaserJock: :( Somehow for bug 42976 my comment got posted twice!! I dont know how!! [06:50] Malone bug 42976 in xcircuit "Xcircuit menus don't work. " [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42976 [06:50] tuxmaniac: Malone has a permanent record, Debian's BTS is like that as well [06:51] LaserJock: Any problems?? Sorry.. But it was not my mistake! [06:51] tuxmaniac: ah, no biggie [06:51] it really doesn't matter [06:51] btw, have you uploaded a new xcircuit to REVU? [06:52] LaserJock: Oh ok. :) I was really worried whether someone would kick me :) [06:52] LaserJock: It is the same that I uploaded wuite sometime back [06:52] LaserJock: I am working on two more software packaging..Alliance VLSI CAD and MAGIC Layout tool. [06:53] LaserJock: Also trying to cut down on the Lintian and Linda errors [06:53] yeah, I'd like to see if we can get a UVF exception but we need a package first [06:54] LaserJock: You mean Xcircuit? The package is up on the revu! [06:55]