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=== Topic for #ubuntu: Official Ubuntu support channel | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | Dapper information and help in #ubuntu+1 | IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc | Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ | Join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter
=== Topic (#ubuntu): set by apokryphos at Mon Apr 24 22:24:38 2006
(roo_/#ubuntu) gnomefreak, mathieu, f1-6 all blank.05:53
(roo_/#ubuntu) gnomefreak, mathieu - framebuffer problem perhaps?05:53
(sparkleytone/#ubuntu) erikh: yeah, except its like running debian stable with unstable packages...without the hassle ;)05:53
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(erikh/#ubuntu) ahhhh SWEET.05:53
(gnomefreak/#ubuntu) roo_: could be did you change xorg config file lately?05:53
(erikh/#ubuntu) thanks so much folks.05:54
(sparkleytone/#ubuntu) erikh: altho one caveat is that package versions are frozen for each ubuntu version05:54
(roo_/#ubuntu) gnomefreak, i didn't, but VT's dont use X's config at all tho?05:54
(erikh/#ubuntu) sparkleytone: that's actually ideal05:54
(sparkleytone/#ubuntu) erikh: which can put you in a situation like the current one with clamav05:54
(erikh/#ubuntu) well, the servers I setup are simple but plentiful... we provide game servers.05:54
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(gnomefreak/#ubuntu) vt?05:54
(erikh/#ubuntu) so stuff like that actually benefits us.05:54
(sparkleytone/#ubuntu) yeah05:55
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(roo_/#ubuntu) gnomefreak, virutal terminal..05:55
Ummmmmhow do I install .deb files?05:55
sparkleytoneit usually benefits Everyone?05:55
sparkleytonesometimes not tho05:55
orbinUmmmmm: what are you installing?05:55
sparkleytoneUmmmmm: dpkg -i package.deb05:55
erikhwell, I come from FreeBSD and prefer that ultimately05:55
sparkleytonegenerally05:55
erikhlooking for something that's linux based that will do what I need05:55
erikhit seems that ubuntu will do that! :)05:55
mcmillenNg, urUSUL: thanks for the pointer!05:56
gnomefreakroo_: what i was getting at was that there is a framebuffer setting in xorg (did it stop working after playing in xprg config file) or has it always been broken?05:56
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sparkleytoneerikh: i think i'm going to try solaris next :)  Nexenta is solaris-based with ubuntu packages ;)05:56
Ummmmmhow do i get dpkg to force-install dependencies?05:56
roo_gnomefreak, ah i see, apologies. I havent changed anything in xorg.conf05:56
erikhintesting05:56
roo_gnomefreak, its a clean install.05:56
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roo_gnomefreak, of breezy.05:57
sparkleytoneUmmmmm: if you have a bunch of dependencies, why aren't you using apt-get ?05:57
gnomefreakroo_: so it has never worked right?05:57
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roo_gnomefreak, never.05:57
gnomefreakroo_: what kernel are you using?05:57
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roniezdoes anybody how i can get wordwrap in aterm05:58
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Nikosgrwhat is this?05:58
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hzzzviperU flOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0  flOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0  flOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0  flOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0oOoOo0  05:58
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Hanna_this is pretty lame.05:58
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roo_gnomefreak, Linux vin 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux06:01
Stormx2`Is it safe now?06:01
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UKMatthas anyone ever gotten a runtime error from gdesklet's launcher?06:01
HymnToLifedamn, what the hell was that ?06:01
Nikosgrwhat is this?06:01
orbinStormx2`: yeah, you can stop hiding now. :)06:01
chapiumdid anyone just get a rediculous number of messages?06:01
gnomefreakStormx2`: i think so for now i only got 3-4 of them06:01
ubotuit has been said that ops is Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!06:01
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Amaranthlag bot?06:01
gnomefreakAmaranth: its done06:01
sparkleytonethat was ridiculous...06:02
Seveasme06:02
gnomefreakit was a major botting crap06:02
Seveash06:02
roniezaterm + wordwrap is it possible? cause mine isnt wrapping the lines.06:02
Seveas!ops is <reply> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!06:02
ubotu...but ops is already something else...06:02
roniezit just keeps on going and going... so i cant see all stuff.06:02
sparkleytonei was looking at another channel when my GUI client locked up...thinking 'wtf that never happens'06:02
Stormx2`Yeah06:02
sparkleytoneyay for irssi proxies06:02
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erikhheh06:02
Amaranth!no, ops is <reply> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!06:02
erikhi just used irssi's advanced ignore06:02
Stormx2`I said !ops a while back but it said "Cannot send to channel"06:02
Nikosgrwher do they find this irssi proxies?06:02
erikhgot rid of most of it06:02
SeveasAmaranth, I already /msg'ed him 06:02
aeon17xAnd we still have 700+ users on lol06:02
AmaranthSeveas: hehe06:02
erikhoh, someone was exploiting the proxy?06:03
erikharg.06:03
Amaranthaeon17x: We get up to 800 at times.06:03
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gnomefreaksomeone set mode to mi?06:03
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gnomefreakwhat was that?06:03
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erikhprobably to stop the flood.06:03
Amaranth+m means you can't talk without op/voice06:03
Amaranth+i is invite only06:03
sparkleytoneerikh: not what i meant...i meant even tho my GUI client died i didn't have to rejoin everything because my irssi proxy took it like a champ.06:03
gnomefreakah ok06:03
Stormx2`yeah06:03
erikh+i is invite only06:03
erikhsparkleytone: yep, me too06:03
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knanandhi06:04
erikhalthough I'm using dircproxy+irssi here06:04
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erikhand then I used /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS NOTICES06:04
erikhwhich got rid of most of it06:04
sparkleytonethat's the first time x-chat aqua has every crashed on me06:04
Nikosgrwher do they find this irssi proxies?06:04
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sparkleytoneever*06:04
knanandI have installed Opera 8. How can i make it my default browser??06:04
erikhNikosgr: irssi is a irc client that has proxy features06:04
erikhyou can probably find it via apt-get :)06:04
Nikosgrlol06:05
Nikosgrand xchat isnt?06:05
Amaranthknanand: System->Preferences->Preferred Applications06:05
sparkleytoneheh...the deb is configured without proxy06:05
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erikhxchat doesn't have proxy features, IIRC06:05
sparkleytoneironically enough it was irssi i was installing when checkinstall broke my box06:05
gnomefreakerikh: i think it does06:05
Nikosgrhow do i search in repos for irssi* stuff?06:05
knanandok.... thank you!!06:05
Amaranthcheckinstall is evil06:05
Nikosgrapt-cache searcg irssi* ?06:05
sparkleytoneAmaranth: i know this now06:05
erikhyeah06:05
chapiumanyone know how you set gmail as your default mail reader?06:05
sparkleytoneAmaranth: but the past 2 yrs i had been using it with no issues06:06
gnomefreakxchat does have proxy settings in prefferences06:06
sparkleytonewe are talking about two different proxies...06:06
Amaranthchapium: You can't.06:06
Nikosgrbut where do they find so much06:07
sparkleytonethe irssi proxy being an always-on client that accepts incoming authenticated connections from other irc clients06:07
knanandshuld i incude the full path??06:07
Nikosgrare they free?06:07
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chapiumAmaranth: ah06:07
Amaranthknanand: It can't hurt.06:07
chapiumokies06:07
pbxIs there a "troubleshooting wifi connections" guide anywhere? I'm running the latest Dapper on an Inspiron laptop with a wifi card that worked well under 5.10.  *Seems* to be set up correctly -- in Network settings it says "Wireless connection -- the interface eth0 is active", and it sees the AP. The "Default gateway device" popup there doesn't seem to stick though. It's blank whenever I open Network settings, and setting it to eth0 doesn't seem to have an effect.06:07
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Nikosgr<sparkleytone> the irssi proxy being an always-on client that accepts incoming authenticated connections from other irc clients06:08
WirwingHi, do i need to be logged as Root to read a ntfs partition?06:08
Nikosgrwhat do you mean by that?06:08
Amaranth!wifi06:08
ubotuhmm... wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto06:08
AmaranthWirwing: no06:08
Amaranth!ntfs06:08
ubotumethinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:08
mike10hey i just upgraded to dapper but nautilus doesn't work anymore06:08
pbxubotu: I'll check that out, thanks!06:08
sparkleytoneNikosgr: think of it as a remote desktop for an irc session06:08
ubotupbx: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:08
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Amaranth!doesn't work06:08
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.06:08
Amaranthubotu does everything :)06:08
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Amaranth06:08
Nikosgri jst downloaded xchat-systray06:09
mike10Amaranth,  it doesn't load06:09
Nikosgrbut dotn knwo hwo to start it can someone help?06:09
mike10it crashes06:09
Amaranthmike10: If you make a new account and login to it does it crash?06:09
sparkleytoneNikosgr: you would probably be better served in a more general linux help chatroom06:09
mike10Amaranth, i'll try that06:09
Nikosgryes06:10
Nikosgrbut iam usign ubuntu06:10
Wirwingok, but when i try to access to a xp ntfs partition, it shows me "you dont have permission to view the contents of hda1.... what im doing wrong?:S06:10
orbinNikosgr: that's just an applet that show up in the notification area when xchat is active06:10
sparkleytoneNikosgr: yes, but your questions aren't ubuntu specific in any way06:10
mike10Amaranth, i'm using the test unstable version06:10
Nikosgryes06:10
Amaranthmike10: me too06:10
Amaranthmike10: Please join #ubuntu+1 though06:10
Nikosgrorbin, so i must rerun xchat for it to work?06:10
orbinNikosgr: no, just add the notification area applet to one of your panels06:11
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Nikosgrwhat i actually want in linxu(which is becaue iam used from xp) is06:11
sparkleytonecliffhanger...06:11
Nikosgrthat when i calick minimize or close my applications to go into tray mode06:11
Nikosgrinstead of minimaxzation06:11
Nikosgris this possible please?06:11
sparkleytonemeh...the tray is bad UI06:12
NikosgrUI ?06:12
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orbinuser interface06:13
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Nikosgrcanht application go into tray mode in gnome?06:14
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Nikosgrlike gaim and sound is?06:14
jeff303how can I actually change what applications mozplugger uses?  I want it to use evince for pdfs but currently it is set to acroread (which isn't even working)06:14
Nikosgrgaim is in tray mode as weel as sound06:14
sparkleytonei'd probably get into trouble taking about UI in this channel tho...me being a mac user and all that only uses linux if X11 is not installed.  so you might not want to listen to me on that :P06:14
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Nikosgr:)06:15
UKMatthas anyone ever gotten a runtime error from gdesklet's launcher?06:15
Nikosgrorbin, is what i am skign possbile?06:15
AmaranthNikosgr: Only if the app supports it.06:15
Nikosgri see06:15
Nikosgrwell not many app in linxu does06:15
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Nikosgrgaim does06:15
AmaranthNikosgr: Actually, I think there might be a (KDE) tool that makes any app minimize to tray.06:15
Nikosgrnothign else i seen so far do06:15
AmaranthYeah, it's usually not a good thing.06:15
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NikosgrAmaranth, really??!!?06:16
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Nikosgrhow cna i search for it?06:16
Nikosgri like it very muich06:16
pbxHmm, I walked through the wifi guide with success until this point: """If [pinging an IP]  doesn't work and you get statements saying "Destination host unreachable" or "request timed out", then you've got a problem and you aren't connected. (somebody should write some instructions on what to do next)"""  That's pretty funny.06:16
Nikosgri dont like many windows in  my taskbar06:16
sparkleytonelmao pbx06:16
Nikosgri would like better to vie them as icons in tray06:16
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AmaranthNikosgr: http://l1nux.free.fr/index.php?action=downloadfile&filename=kdocker_1.2-1_i386.deb&directory=Debian/Utilities might work06:17
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AmaranthNikosgr: download and install that deb06:17
NikosgrAmaranth, is there a gmome app that does the same?06:18
Nikosgryes06:18
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AmaranthNo but this app works on Gnome.06:18
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misfit_toyspeechof06:19
Nikosgris a kde app that work on gnome?06:19
Nikosgrhow is this possible?06:19
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Amaranthall KDE apps work on Gnome06:19
Amaranthand vice-versa06:19
yetiHi, I have a Dell XPS m140, screen resolution native is 1280x800.  I have a fresh install and my resolution is stuck at 1024x768 and its making me cross eyed.  Can anyone help me get it set right?06:19
Nikosgrthats very nice to hear06:19
Nikosgrdidnt knew that!06:19
sparkleytone1280x800 native?  ew06:20
Amaranth!fixres06:20
ubotuHelp to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:20
Amaranthsparkleytone: Standard widescreen resolution06:20
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sparkleytoneAmaranth: i thought that was 1280x76806:20
dannyhahaha\06:20
dannylfgdkfokffjjf06:20
pbxHmm, if I continue with the command-line troubleshooting at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto and run "ifup" on my wireless card after running "ifdown" on my other interfaces, I get a lot of DHCPDISCOVER lines that don't seem to be discovering anything...06:20
Amaranthsparkleytone: Actually, I think you're right.06:20
Amaranthsparkleytone: but 1280x800 is pretty common06:21
frying_fishyeti: you will most likely need 915resolution06:21
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Nikosgrthanks Amaranth its very cool!06:21
AmaranthG-DogG: Hi.06:21
yetithanks for the link06:21
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yetifrying_fish, is 915 resolution a special package?06:21
HIGH-FREQwhat was the command to reconfigure xorg06:22
frying_fishwell its a package that you run for i915 chipsets06:22
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frying_fishwhich I assume you have yeti06:22
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frying_fishor something along those lines.06:22
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Tiduswow that was a huge flood06:22
Amaranthdanny: Thank you, come again.06:22
yetiyeah, I have a 915 GMA chipset06:22
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frying_fishyeti: yes, then get 915resolution and run it06:22
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frying_fishthen add the resolution to xorg.conf06:22
Nikosgrguys i have set time to Europe/athens06:22
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Nikosgrbut its not the correct time06:22
frying_fishand HIGH-FREQ dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:22
frying_fishyeti: its in synaptic06:23
HIGH-FREQaah...that its...06:23
Nikosgrinstread of seeing 19:23 i see 3:22pm why06:23
HIGH-FREQkeep forgettin06:23
frying_fishwell, maybe in breezy, definately in dapper06:23
AmaranthNikosgr: Right click on the time and choose change06:23
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AmaranthNikosgr: err, adjust06:23
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Nikosgryes but why not being correct since i tzconfig?06:23
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pbxubotu: Thanks for the help, this may be an AP config issue.  I hope.06:24
ubotupbx: bitte06:24
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Amaranthpbx: ubotu is a bot :)06:24
pbxHa!06:24
pbxI was wondering how he was typing so fast06:24
knanandi want to start GAIM each time i login... Is there a way to launch it at startup??06:25
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yetiyeah, it was in Synaptec, thanx06:25
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Amaranthknanand: System->Preferences->Sessions06:25
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Amaranthknanand: startup programs tab06:25
Nikosgrok it got syncronized!06:26
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yetithe terminal says "setting up xserver ......" do I have to reboot, or edit a config file or somthing?06:26
kaisaMoro ihmiset!!06:26
Nikosgrig i know a description of an pp that i want removed how do i remove it?06:26
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knanandwhat is the order there?/06:27
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khaladanhow do i get a list of all packages installed on my machine?06:27
yetisuccessfull applied06:27
kaisajnn on juu.06:27
yetihumm06:27
Amaranthknanand: Leave the current things in the order they are, add your program to the bottom of the list06:28
jmoncayohad somebody installed the ares plugin for gift project?06:28
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HIGH-FREQ!ubotu enabling fglrx06:28
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HIGH-FREQ06:28
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Nikosgrig i know a description of an pp that i want removed how do i remove it?06:28
knanandya i added that.. but what is it used for06:28
Copperranyone can help with an Ubuntu instalation issue here ?06:28
newbie33I got info that new linux kerner released, how to see my kernerl mode?06:28
kaisai wanttu gou houm.06:29
Amaranthknanand: The programs in that list will start in the order they're listed.06:29
khaladanI'd like a list of all installed packages.  How can I generate this list?06:29
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Sammylvzhi06:29
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newbie33!kernel06:29
ferosskhaladan: dpkg -l06:30
Copperrany idea why on the partitioning it gives me a MINIMUM of 50 GB ?!06:30
Sammylvzhow do u get into the oof topic room ?????????????06:30
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AmaranthSammylvz: the what?06:30
AmaranthCopperr: that's...odd06:30
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kaisaHALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO06:30
Sammylvzhow do u get in to the off topic room?????06:30
Copperryeah and it won't let me use 10 GB as i want06:30
AmaranthSammylvz: /join #ubuntu-offtopic06:31
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Copperri already set up a FAT 32 partition and want to install there06:31
jmoncayoSammylvz, #ubuntu-offtopic06:31
Sammylvzthanks xx06:31
AmaranthCopperr: I don't think you can install Ubuntu on a fat32 partition06:31
AmaranthCopperr: And even if you can I wouldn't.06:31
newbie33!ubotu kernel06:31
Copperrit has 10 GB but when i try to install Ubuntu it says minimum size 50 GB06:31
Sammylvz#ubuntu-offtopic06:31
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AmaranthSammylvz: /join #ubuntu-offtopic06:31
Nikosgrig i know a description of an package that i want removed how do i remove it?06:31
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kaisaI hate ubuntu linux... :P06:32
AmaranthNikosgr: Use synaptic to search in package descriptions06:32
Copperrwell i would format the FAT 32 but why minimum 50 GB ?!06:32
Nikosgri mean from cli06:32
Sammylvzthanks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx06:32
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teimucan i do anything with rpms in ubunut?06:32
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NoUse!rpm06:32
ubotumethinks rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien06:32
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AmaranthNikosgr: I don't know how to search package descriptions from cli, sorry.06:32
teimu!alien06:32
ubotuI heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/06:32
Nikosgrits ok06:32
ccc_teimu: try not to06:33
DarKnesS_WolFcool moved from debian to ubuntu :-)06:33
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Copperrany ideas on why it gives me a minimum of %) GB when trying to install Ubuntu during pratitioning ?!06:33
teimuwell, i just downloaded the latest open office, and it comes in rpms. the one from aptget is old06:33
NoUseCopperr I think you might be misreading things, I would think Ubuntu would need a minimum of 50 Megabyes, not gigabytes06:33
Copperr50GB06:33
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Copperrit clearly says Min 50 GB06:34
CopperrGB06:34
Sammylvza kiss for everone xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx06:34
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Copperrduring instalation06:34
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AmaranthCopperr: Try installing to a regular ext3 partition.06:34
DarKnesS_WolFi have a fast question i have noticed that ICEWM and OPENBOX not in the apt source. they are in the universal ?06:34
Copperrand i typed in 10 GB and it said it's too low06:34
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mikeo1Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path, Please set correct fontPath in the tightvncserver script, Couldn't start Xtightvnc process.... any ideas what the correct font path is?06:34
NoUseAmaranth how is your current partition table set up?06:34
NoUseAmaranth oops mistype sorry06:34
mikeo1Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'06:34
NoUseCopperr how is your current partition table setup?06:35
AmaranthNoUse: Mine is ppc, OS X stuff. :P06:35
Copperrunder XP i set up and empty FAT 32 partition of 10 GB06:35
ccc_teimu: they have debs, don't they?06:35
mikeo1running dapper and xgl06:35
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NoUseCopperr what is the FAT32 partition for?06:35
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Copperri want to partition it to install Ubuntu06:35
[Leo] hi all06:35
NoUseCopperr you have to resize or remove the FAT32 partiton as Linux installs to a partition called Ext306:36
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Copperrbut during instalation of Ubuntu , during partitioning , it says min 50 BG06:36
CopperrGB06:36
ccc_DarKnesS_WolF: yep they are in universe06:36
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AmaranthCopperr: You can't install Ubuntu on FAT32.06:36
Copperrok so if i format the 10 GB to Ext3, it would be okay ?06:36
AmaranthCopperr: Delete the 10GB fat32 partition and create an ext3 partition06:36
NoUseCopperr yes06:37
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Copperr<Amaranth> much apreciated :)06:37
NoUseCopperr I would just remove it and then tell the Ubuntu installer to use the free space on the disk06:37
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Copperrthanks guys06:37
Copperr:)06:37
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DarKnesS_WolFccc_: thx i'm uncommenting all the deb lines in the sources files06:37
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GazzaKwhere abouts is the sources file?06:38
ccc_GazzaK: /etc/apt/sources.list06:38
GazzaKthanks ccc_06:38
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hikenboothello all ---its me again...I hadnt gotten an answer to my question which was...."Can one install a package into a live cd that will provide the same fuctionality as knoppix with regards to being able to preset a file name to use as a swap space on an available partition that has free space wether it be ntfs ext2 ext3 or swap?"06:39
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LoverxXxhi06:39
jacobnixhello06:39
jacobnixguys06:39
jacobnixi am jacob06:39
hikenbootsecondly is there a live cd mailing list for ubuntu?06:40
NoUsehikenboot I think thats set with boot options, not once you have booted the system06:40
LoverxXx /join ubunbu-offtopic06:40
jacobnixsomeone knows how can i install ubuntu from lan net like fedora core06:40
bilkehi ppl :)06:40
jacobnix?06:40
hikenbootLoverxXx, you talking to me?06:40
bilketry with debian06:40
bilkedebian have network installation06:40
LoverxXxhow do u get onto the offtopic room can someone help plz xxx06:40
bilkehas06:40
jacobnixno but i want to install06:41
jacobnixubuntu not Debian06:41
LoverxXxi will talk to anyone y06:41
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ccc_LoverxXx: type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic06:41
MenZaLoverxXx: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic06:41
MenZao_O06:41
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jacobnixUbuntu doesnt support install from net?06:41
bilkei think not06:41
hikenbootNoUse what exactly do you mean?06:41
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bilkethere is some workaround06:41
bilkebut it's not clean06:42
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yggdrasilis there any way to play wmv movie files in ubuntu ?06:42
takedownjacobnix: find a netboot image, it's support it06:42
MenZa!restrictedformats06:42
uboturestrictedformats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats06:42
jacobnixwho knows if i can install ubuntu from net06:42
MenZaLook there, yggdrasil06:42
jacobnix?06:42
yggdrasilthnks06:42
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MenZanp.06:42
jacobnixtakedown: with netboot can i install ubuntu from net?06:42
takedownyep06:43
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mikebotis there an equivolent command for "/dccserver +sc on 59" in xc-chat?06:43
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jacobnixtakedown: this boot image is in ubuntu cds06:43
jacobnix?06:43
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takedownjacobnix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot <- look here06:44
jacobnixok06:44
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jacobnixtakedown, thanks very much06:44
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jacobnixtakedonw :)06:44
takedownjacobnix: np ;)06:44
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jessy_somebody knows what is required in .htaccess in order the server uses php5 ?06:45
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MenZajessy_: try #apache06:45
simoorhttp://de.selfhtml.org06:45
jessy_oki06:45
jacobnixtakedown my blog is here http://www.ministeriosjm.com/area51/~jacob/blog/06:45
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scifihi guys, any tips on speeding up the boot-up? anything i can safely disable ?06:46
asterismanyone korean?06:46
MenZa!korean06:46
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MenZa06:46
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hastesaverasterism, #ubuntu-ko ?06:47
hastesaverscifi, how long does it take?06:48
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scifiid say 40-60secs06:48
jeff303how can I view the standard output and/or error stream output from apps not launched from a terminal (i.e. the Gnome menu)?06:49
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simoor@jeff: run the apps out of a terminal06:49
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hastesaverjeff303, I don't know, but why not just launch them from a terminal?06:50
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jeff303hastesaver, yeah I guess that's easy enough with Gnome's "Run in Terminal" option  :-)06:50
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hastesaverjeff303, Or really have a terminal running and type the command from there :p06:51
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simooranybody has an idea how i can get clip recognition with my 56k modem?06:51
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scifino tips then ?06:51
hastesaverscifi, there's something called "bum"...06:52
jaeki am running version 8.24.8+2.6.15.9-3 on ubuntu dapper06:52
scifilol06:52
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jaekmy Xorg.0.log file says...06:52
Jimmey__!bum06:52
simoorhey 40 til 60 seconds isnt bad06:52
ubotuI guess bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html06:52
jaek(EE) RADEON(0): [dri]  RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM06:52
jaek[dri]  Disabling DRI.06:52
jaekwhat could i be doing wrong?06:52
scifithx guys, will take a look06:52
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scifilooks good, hasnt anyone used this, had mainly good/bad experiences ?06:55
khaladanis there a package group for installing common dev tools?06:55
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jeff303khaladan, build-essentials06:55
froudI would like to replace metacity and ubuntu-desktop with matchbox-window-manager and matchbox-desktop any docs that can give me some direction on how?06:55
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hastesaverscifi, go ahead and try, and tell us your experiences :)06:56
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hastesaverfroud, just install matchbox-desktop, and choose that one when you're logging in06:57
scifibut im a noobie, if i mess my install up, i wudnt know how to fix it :P06:57
hastesaverscifi, so don't remove anything unless you're sure it's not needed06:57
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khaladanno build-essential is not it. that's the essential files for building deb packages. ideally i'm looking for a simple package that has stuff like make, bison, gcc listed06:57
hastesaverscifi, 40-60 seconds is quite good, IMHO06:57
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scifiits not bad, but compared to my XP boot, its slow06:58
hastesaverscifi, for example, if you don't have a printer, you could try removing the printer services, etc06:58
hastesaverscifi, but if something doesn't make sense to you, better not to remove it :)06:58
kIOskanyone here sues amarok and can tell me how it supports .cue sheets ??06:58
scifiyeh just noticed the HP printer service, not sure thats necessary for me06:58
scifiive installed/running bum btw :P06:59
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simooramarok is a sound player06:59
simoornot a cd burning tool06:59
lazzarellois it policy not to configure an MTA or local mail spools on a base system?06:59
lazzarellocause I got none in /var/mail06:59
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LoverxXx<307:01
g0dchildWoohoO!07:02
g0dchildfinally made the blasted eagle-usb modem work on ubuntu07:02
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jeff303khaladan, build-essential "depends" on libc6-dev, gcc, g++, and make among other things07:02
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g0dchildspeaking of which, why cant i get the most recent release of amarok on synaptic?07:02
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g0dchildyes, i do know about universe pkgs, if you're wondering07:03
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jaekhttp://128.101.149.7/~jake/Xorg.0.log <- what is going wrong07:03
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hastesaverg0dchild, the maintainers of the package have to decide when to upgrade, etc...07:03
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hastesaverg0dchild, there is a source for "latest amarok packages"07:03
g0dchildoh... hastesaver - i tried compiling it from source. all hell broke loose that time....how?07:04
g0dchildok, thanks07:04
hastesaverg0dchild, my policy is to not *ever* compile from source if I can help it :)07:04
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g0dchildhastesaver, why not? its more 'optimized' isnt it?07:05
g0dchildor so i've heard07:05
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hastesaverg0dchild, not worth the hassle. as you said, it often happens that all hell breaks loose ;)07:06
lazzarelloanyone? /var/mail being empty on a new system? MTA being optional?07:06
hastesaverlazzarello, it had my account by default07:06
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lazzarelloprobably a bug in testing07:06
hastesaverlazzarello, at install time, it asked for an email address, and I gave it my username (I think)... and I was getting mails sent to root07:06
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lazzarelloyou running stable?07:06
ElazarAnyone know if there's a way in lftp to get a list of local files?07:06
hastesaverlazzarello, yeah, breezy07:06
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froudhastesaver: I did but I dont have an option to select it when logging in07:07
lazzarelloI'll go to #ubuntu+107:07
hastesaverfroud, don't you see something called "session" ?07:07
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khaladani'd like to run some kind of apt-get install --just-kidding where it'll just tell me all that it'll download07:08
hastesaverfroud, the default gdm login screen has two options, one called "language" and one called "session"07:08
khaladanhow can i do that07:08
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hastesaverkhaladan, press Ctrl-C when it starts downloading ;)07:08
simoorhow can i start mgetty? nothing happens after entering the command07:08
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scifican anyone confirm that it wud be safe to stop the following services from running at start-up: hplip, cpusys and pcmcia. i dont have any printers installed and im not using a latop.07:09
hastesaverkhaladan, it works, actually... also, there is a --dry-run option, see if it does what you want07:09
froudhastesaver: yes, the session dialog has no type for matchbox07:09
tuxmaniackhaladan: apt-get install XXX will tell what all it will downlaod07:09
khaladanlooks like -s works fine07:09
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froudhastesaver: should it be listed?07:09
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khaladani didn't see a --dry-run in the help..07:10
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hastesaverfroud, hmm, all the wms I installed have turned up in that menu -- kde, ratpoison, ...07:10
hastesaverfroud, try installing *all* the matchbox packages if you can afford it07:10
froudhastesaver: yes, that is my experience also07:10
froudhastesaver: this is new one for me07:10
roniezcrap. my aterm is screwing up...07:11
roniezit isnt wordwrapping my conversations.07:11
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hastesaverwho maintains the source-o-matic page?07:12
scifinoone ?07:13
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hastesaverscifi, pcmcia seems necessary07:14
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hastesaverscifi, and is the second one cpusys or cupsys?07:14
scifisorry cupsys07:14
hastesaverscifi, hplip can be safely disabled if you're not using a printer (and so can cupsys, if that's what it is)07:15
scifiwhy pcmcia, they are laptop cards ?07:15
hastesaveroh, I don't know07:15
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hastesaverscifi, besides, all this will probably only make a neglible change to your bootup time :)07:15
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monomaniacpatHello children!07:15
scifidont tell me that now :P07:16
hastesaverscifi, I've heard that bootup times are *much faster* in the next release (dapper), you should just wait for a month and upgrade :)07:16
roniezh..07:16
scifiyeh heard that too :).....sorry i shudnt be so impatient :)07:17
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monomaniacpatCan anyone tell me how to get both my external monitor and my laptop monitor displaying at the same time, so I can take my laptop on walkies if necessary?07:17
hastesaverall my apps start up konqueror as the browser, how do I set it to firefox?07:17
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chamohastesaver: System > Pref. > Prefered Applications07:18
ElazarIs there a particular reason why the ftp CLI client would continuously get "stuck" on a particular file in processing an mput command? The file isn't very large.07:18
monomaniacpatAm I right in thinking firefox is damn ugly in kde?07:19
hastesaverchamo, thanks, but do you know how do I do it from KDE? (or the command line?) It's painful to log out, log in to gnome, log out, ...07:19
hastesavermonomaniacpat, get a better skin :)07:19
chamohastesaver: nope I dont know for KDE. check control pannel ^^07:20
scifiwhich browser do u guys recommend? im using firefox at the moment, can i install konqueror for gnome ?07:20
hastesavermonomaniacpat, most gtk apps look the same07:20
monomaniacpatfrom my brief experience it couldn't display the gnome skins ok07:20
monomaniacpathad big lines between different part07:20
monomaniacpat*s07:20
hastesaverscifi, sure you can install konqueror (which will probably install most of kde as well, but that's another matter)07:20
scifio right :s07:20
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hastesaverscifi, but I prefer firefox, if you want to know :)07:21
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scifiive heard firefox hogs memory, altho i havent experienced that myself07:21
monomaniacpatSo does anyone know how to display on two monitors at once?07:21
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Nikosgrhello07:22
Nikosgrlook07:22
Nikosgr<Nikosgr> root@dell:~# /usr/games/brutalchess07:22
Nikosgr<Nikosgr> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".07:22
Nikosgr<Nikosgr> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".07:22
Nikosgr<Nikosgr> Video mode set failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual07:22
imonkeyNikosgr: please read the topic07:22
Nikosgrwhats wrong?07:22
bickyIn Synpatic stands the 2.37a version of Blender, but I want the 2.41. can I update this ?07:22
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monomaniacpatNikosgr: use the pastebin07:22
hastesaverscifi, um, it sometimes goes way up, but not often (and when it does, a restart of firefox fixes it)07:22
monomaniacpathttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/07:22
hastesaverscifi, I haven't experienced it in the recent past, though07:22
Nikosgrsory it was only 4 lines07:22
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hathaiping07:22
simoorping lost :P07:23
Nikosgrwhy cant i play brutalchess whats wrong plz?07:23
scifisays 98MB in system monitor, what does konqueror use ?07:23
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ElazarIs there a particular reason why the ftp CLI client would continuously get "stuck" on a particular file in processing an mput command? The file isn't very large.07:23
Nikosgrsomeonle plz help me07:23
imonkeyNikosgr: you should even use pastebin for 2 lines07:23
simoorhow can i install my modem? lspci says: 0000:00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 04)07:23
Nikosgrok sorry07:23
hastesaverchamo, I think "update-alternatives" is the thing, BTW07:24
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Nikosgrsomeone plz help me in private07:24
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simoorhow can i install my modem? lspci says: 0000:00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 04)07:25
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Stormx2`!modem07:26
ubotumodem is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto07:26
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Nikosgrguys plz soemone help em with thsoe drivers07:26
Nikosgriam unexprienced to do it07:26
Nikosgri just installed nvidia-glx07:26
g0dchildwhich kinda chipset?07:26
Nikosgrwhy the game wont work?07:27
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g0dchildyou're good as dead with a winmodem.07:27
chamogame?07:27
NoUseNikosgr have you followed the wiki instructions?07:27
chamowhat game?07:27
Nikosgri think that i have them installed07:27
Nikosgri apt-get install nvia-glx07:27
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NoUseNikosgr thats all?07:27
Nikosgrso the driver sare installed07:27
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Nikosgrand nvidia-glx enable i did07:28
jonnyquit07:28
NoUseNikosgr no, read the instructions again07:28
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NoUse!nvidia07:28
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia07:28
monomaniacpatWhat is synergy?07:28
Nikosgrthis http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaHowTo ?07:29
NoUseNikosgr yes07:29
Nikosgrok its for debian07:29
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Nikosgrbut i gues it will be applied to ubuntiu right07:29
NoUseNikosgr no its on the ubuntu wiki, its for ubuntu07:29
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Nikosgra sorry!07:29
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NoUse!tell Nikosgr about nvidia07:29
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NoUseNikosgr follow the link ubotu sent you07:29
Nikosgrdebian would not work the same?07:29
NoUseNikosgr ubotu sent you the ubuntu instructions07:30
Nikosgryes07:30
Nikosgri will follow them07:30
Nikosgrthank you07:30
Nikosgrwould there be a problem if iu would folow debians intead?07:30
NoUseNikosgr probably07:30
NoUseNikosgr there isn't really a reason to, is there?07:30
Nikosgrno07:30
Nikosgrbut ubuntu is debian based07:31
Nikosgrso i though it might work07:31
NoUseNikosgr doesn't mean they are the same07:31
Nikosgrok07:31
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luizsomebody please, tell me where i'm get a ubuntu-Br irc ?????07:32
NoUse!br07:32
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.07:32
NoUseluiz type /join #ubuntu-br07:32
heeeehoooowwwwwdoes anybody here can help me with k3b?07:32
NoUse!anyone07:33
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>07:33
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NoUseluiz you need a /07:33
NoUseluiz /join #ubuntu-br07:33
Maniquihi, I have been asking about making NTFS writeable from Ubuntu Linux  and have reading the FAQs at linux-ntfs.org07:33
Maniquibut I cant conclude if it's safe or note07:33
Maniquior not07:33
NoUseManiqui its not07:33
Maniquioh :(07:33
Maniquinot even for write simple mp3 metadata ? :D07:34
monomaniacpatAnyone know anything about dual monitors?07:34
NoUseManiqui nope07:34
Maniquiok. thanks NoUse07:34
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NoUseheeeehoooowwwww if you ask a question, we'll find out if we can help07:34
tuxmaniacAny Chan Ops here?? Seveas  Modify the topic to contain "Dont ask to Ask" :)07:34
pgquilesmaniqui http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org.nyud.net:8080/doku.php?id=ntfsmount07:34
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SixtyWattHello, has anyone gotten a dwl-g122 usb wireless dongle to work with Ubuntu?07:35
jouelletteIE is poopy....07:36
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NikosgrNoUse, i have a question07:37
Maniquithanks pgquiles. In the same topic: I know future is unknow, but is there any goal to make NTFS writable more "safe"?07:37
NoUseNikosgr ok07:37
Nikosgri dit all that i just dont know if07:37
Nikosgrthis worked oot@dell:~# nvidia-glx-config enable07:37
Nikosgrit gave some warnings07:38
NoUseManiqui asking Microsoft to open the spec for the file system ;-)07:38
NoUseNikosgr pastebin the error07:38
NoUse!tell Nikosgr about pastebin07:38
Maniquiok. I have read they are closed and the driver has been made by reverse engineer...07:38
simoorfucking modem i have07:38
g0dchildmodem blues?07:38
simoori think its better i use my old modem and a usb2serial converter07:39
g0dchildtell me about it- just got my eagle-usb modem working after 2 days07:39
pgquilesmaniqui captive-ntfs, but it's illegal07:39
NoUse!captiventfs07:39
ubotuNoUse: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:39
NoUse!captive-ntfs07:39
ubotuNoUse: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:39
NoUse!captive07:39
ubotufrom memory, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.07:39
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simoorscanmodem recognices the modem07:39
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Maniquidanger! :D07:40
usuariojh07:40
simoorbut no idea how to get it working07:40
Nikosgrhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1343207:40
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g0dchild!mysql07:40
ubotuLinux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP07:40
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NoUseNikosgr do what the message suggest, go into that file and change nv to nvidia07:40
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monomaniacpatanyone know how to switch monitors once ubuntu is loaded on a laptop?07:41
simoorhaha u have same problerm as i07:42
claytonin ubuntu do i have to install ati drivers?07:42
NoUsemonomaniacpat I've always done that through the laptop Fn key07:42
g0dchildcan someone explain to me why i cant see wiki.ubuntu pages on opera or konqueror for that matter?07:42
NoUseclayton only if you want 3D support07:42
monomaniacpatNoUse: If I do that I get a big static image on the screen. I can only switch properly during booting07:42
simoorwhen i use the Fn-Switch on the hardware the monitors show nothing with sense07:42
claytonNoUse how do i install it? :)07:42
NoUse!tell clayton about ati07:42
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Nikosgr        Driver          "nv"07:43
Nikosgrto this river          "nvidia"07:43
Nikosgrand restart X?07:43
claytonNoUse thanx!!07:43
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simoor@ Nikogsr yes07:43
Maniquiok, captive looks promising, but ubotu says it doesnt work properly on ubuntu :( wel... I will wait until someone says it's safe07:45
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monomaniacpatno ideas?07:45
scifiwhats the difference between root and sudo ?07:45
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monomaniacpathttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:45
dooglusscifi: root is an account, sudo is a command07:45
usuariohola07:45
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megatronaohola07:45
xvampirexHi07:46
monomaniacpathello07:46
hastesaverscifi, you use sudo to become root (sort of)07:46
xvampirex How do I mount an ntfs file system on ubuntu?07:46
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xvampirex (any easy way?)07:46
scifidooglus: but i can do "blender" in terminal to execute it, or "sudo blender", so whats the difference ?07:46
yetiStill dying trying to get my display to display correctly07:46
NoUse!tell xvampirex about ntfs07:46
claytonhey whats the best media player for mp3?07:47
NoUse!players07:47
xvampirexthanks07:47
ubotuplayers is, like, totally, Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC07:47
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yetifollowed the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3204307:47
NoUseclayton its a matter of preference07:47
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yetiget a compile error on the 915 driver07:47
iocasteclayton: i like banshee07:47
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NoUseyeti Have you installed the build-essential package?07:47
claytonok thanks yall07:47
monomaniacpatI use BMP, though its a bit cheap07:48
yetiNoUse, no, whats that?07:48
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NoUseyeti the files you need to compile software07:48
NoUseyeti install it via synaptic07:48
iocasteyeti: or you could open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install build-essential07:49
scifiso "blender" is real root and "sudo blender" is just usr pretending to be root ?07:49
yetii was able to install 1 driver, the common driver, but the 915 failed07:49
dooglusscifi: if you run 'blender', it runs as the current user.  if you do 'sudo blender', it runs as the root user07:49
NoUseyeti try installing build-essential before looking elsewhere for problems07:49
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scifiok07:50
monomaniacpatAnyone know how to switch monitors once ubuntu is loaded (no, fn doesn't work)07:50
yetiinstalling build essienatals now......07:50
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yetiCompiling...07:51
yetiERROR: Kernel modules did not compile07:51
carlos-the-manI just installed apache2, how can I start the process?07:51
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carlos-the-manhi all :D07:51
NoUseyeti pastebin the error07:52
NoUse!tell yeti about pastebin07:52
hastesavercarlos-the-man, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start07:52
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yetipasted in Pastebin07:54
NoUseyeti the url please07:54
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yetisorry - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1343307:54
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Pokerhello...is there any peer to peer program for linux ?07:54
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baizonhi, howto install a *.deb file from the hard drive?07:54
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yetithanks for the help NoUse07:54
bluefoxicyPoker:  gtk-gnutella07:55
bluefoxicyPoker:  please don't steal music.07:55
NoUseyeti have you looked at dri.log?07:55
Pokerfor sure07:55
vabHey what's the tty program in ubuntu?  I need to config a SAN over serial.07:55
bluefoxicyubotu, p2p07:55
ubotuI heard p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo07:55
Hexidigitalubotu, tell poker about frostwire07:55
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monomaniacpatAnyone know how to switch monitors once ubuntu is loaded (no, fn doesn't work)?07:55
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GreatBritonhow can i have both nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings installed in synaptic?07:55
mjrincidentally, while I don't think this channel should support illegal copying, calling it "stealing" is misleading at best07:55
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M3ATW0DAnyone here familar with SunRay's on Ubuntu and can offer help? Specifically keyboard issues.07:55
Stormx2`How do I get support for .rm files without install real player?07:56
Pokeroki thanks07:56
NoUseGreatBriton select them and then install them? are you having a problem installing them?07:56
yetii just pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1343407:56
GreatBritonyeah07:56
baizonStormx2`: MPlayer, VLC07:56
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baizonhi, howto install a *.deb (which apt command) file from the hard drive?07:57
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GreatBritonNoUse: i've selected nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernal-common, but if i try to install nvidia-settings, it says it has to uninstall nvidia-glx :/07:57
Pokeranother question... do you know a good avi player?07:57
hastesaverbaizon, dpkg -i <debfile>07:57
M3ATW0DAnyone here familar with SunRay's on Ubuntu and can offer help? Specifically keyboard issues.07:57
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baizonPoker: MPLayer || VLC07:57
Stormx2`baizon: They won't play it. I need codecs.07:57
hastesaverbaizon, but it's usually better to apt-get it from one of the repos, instead of getting your own debfile (you probably already know this, sorry)07:58
baizonthen download the codecs07:58
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vabwhat do you guys use for serial access?07:58
hastesaverStormx2`, apt-get install w32codecs should do07:58
Stormx2`What gstreamer plugins do I need to play real video (ram)07:58
NoUseyeti install gcc-3.4 and g++-3.4 and then before you run the command to compile your drivers run 'EXPORT CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4"07:58
M3ATW0Dubuntu -- sunrays -- need help07:58
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Stormx2`hastesaver: Installed already07:59
srecko2is it better to use mesa or ati drivers?07:59
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hastesaverStormx2`, see if mplayer plays it then07:59
NoUse!tell GreatBriton about nvidia07:59
NoUseGreatBriton follow the instructions on the wiki07:59
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yetiNoUse, install gcc-3.4 and g++3.4 from Synaptic, and Export is a command?08:00
Stormx2`but I want to use VLC... I could before.08:00
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NoUseyeti yes08:00
yetithanx - d/l and installing08:00
GreatBritonNoUse: ty, will do08:01
voyage34anyone know of a decent guide for installing Wwebmin and LAMP on Ubuntu?08:01
yetiok, it compiled08:01
srecko2voyage: for Lampp just follow the suide on their site, it's so simple08:02
srecko2suide = guide08:02
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srecko2for webwin not sure ....08:02
voyage34k08:02
yetinow I need to restart X - control-alt-backspace?08:02
hastesavervoyage34, why do you need a guide? apt-get install webmin will install webmin, etc...08:02
Hexidigitalyeti, yes08:02
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yetiall right - back in a min08:03
voyage34have had problems trying it like that08:03
voyage34wants a root user08:03
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voyage34that was in the past though.. does it work now?08:03
hastesavervoyage34, it seemed to work for me (but I've enabled the root account...)08:04
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voyage34k thanks08:05
voyage34I'll giv eit a shot08:05
kodos742hi all, does anyone know how i could use thunderbird to read my mail instead of mail or mutt programs?08:05
baizonhastesaver: thx, it works :)08:05
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hastesaverbaizon, yw08:06
gnomefreakkodos742: start with sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird08:06
firebird619I have a TV Tuner that also has an FM tuner on it. So far I have been using gradio, but is there a program that allows you to record from the radio and save it to the hard drive.08:06
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mustard5kodos742, I assume you mean your local system mail?08:07
kodos742i have thunderbird installed, i tried setting up a pop acc. with localhost as server but when i try to check mail i get localhost: connection refused. not a firewall isssue.08:07
mustard5kodos742, I'm not exactly sure of the 'how' part, but I'm pretty sure its possible08:08
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mustard5kodos742, what other options do you have for the incoming server?08:08
hastesaverkodos742, to read your local mail or mail from some pop server (such as gmail) ?08:08
M3ATW0DAnyone here familar with SunRay's on Ubuntu and can offer help? Specifically keyboard issues.08:08
Maniquiops! help needed: I have done some suggested auto-updates, and now, when I reebot, GRUB doesnt offer me to boot in Windows!08:08
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yetiwell, I think I am getting closer08:09
kodos742hasteserver: not a remote server, the message which i see when i type 'mail' or 'mutt' at terminal08:09
Maniquiit only offers me to boot in Ubuntu08:09
yetiname of display: :0.008:09
yetii915 DRI driver expected DDX version 1-1.5.x but got version 1.4.008:09
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gnomefreakManiqui: ?08:09
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kodos742mustard: i'm using mostly the default settings except server name, username etc08:10
Maniquignomefreak: I have both Ubuntu and Windows installed in my machine08:10
HexidigitalManiqui:: you don't need to call an operator for that08:10
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ManiquiI didnt call any operator!08:10
gnomefreakManiqui: dont say ops with a ! on neither side08:10
Maniquioh, ops ! (it's an spanish interjection)08:10
Maniquisorry!08:10
gnomefreakManiqui: im skimming the channel and i saw that08:10
mustard5kodos742, I don't think the POP option will work anyway.  I'm not sure what other options are given with Thunderbird, as I use Evolution myself08:10
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Maniquiback to my problem: after upgrading (dont know what because it was an update suggested by Ubuntu)), GRUB boot screen only shows Ubuntu08:11
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KerneL-PAny help on loading firmware via hotplug?08:12
newbie33how to explore internet using console, not x_window?08:12
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KerneL-Pnewbie33 you can use links or lynx08:12
kodos742yeah that's a good point mustard. i setup courier-imap which i can connect to and authenticate successfully but no messages are going to that inbox. i need to read some more about the setup of08:12
gnomefreaknewbie33: w3m08:12
monomaniacpatAnyone know how to switch monitors once ubuntu is loaded (no, fn doesn't work)?08:12
gnomefreakits pre installed ;)08:12
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ManiquiI remember some time ago I edit a file to tell GRUB to list first the Windows option and then the Ubuntu option, but cant remember where08:13
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gnomefreak/boot/grub/menu.lst08:13
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gnomefreak^^^ Maniqui08:13
KerneL-PAnyone knows a little about hotpluggin firmware for wireless nics? (Intel 2011B with no firmware onboard)08:13
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blasphthe url in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75272 to get azureus doesn't work. anyone got another source?08:14
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yetidoes anyone know what this means?08:14
yetii915 DRI driver expected DDX version 1-1.5.x but got version 1.4.008:14
mustard5kodos742, I wonder if maybe the Thunderbird webpage might have some guide or something08:14
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Maniquithanks gnomefreak. I'm a newbie and I would like to know what happened after that update, that GRUB doesnt offer me to boot in Windows... :(08:14
NoUse!tell blasph about azureus08:14
gnomefreak!azureus08:14
ubotumethinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo08:14
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gnomefreakManiqui: i dont know what you updated08:15
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newbie33where to find SunOS users chan on this server?08:15
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mustard5kodos742, I just use mutt atm for my local system mail :)08:15
g0dchildis there a note-daemon for gnome?08:15
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gnomefreakmustard5: most of the times the (mail server) has info on how to set them up08:15
NoUseyeti you might try remove the xserver-xorg-driver-i810 package08:15
Maniquime neither. It was one of those "auto-updates" suggested by Ubuntu. I think it was the kernel. :(08:15
mustard5kodos742, just checking out evolution it seems to have some options for local mail08:15
voraistoshey guys, i cant setup a samba server for sum reason, can u help ?08:15
gnomefreakmustard5: like for gmail it lists like 10 different email cleints and how to set up08:15
hastesavernewbie33, you can also try elinks08:16
woodsmanhello: I updated breezy.  I use a dual video card running 2 monitors.  After updating I cannot start Xserver.  I tried the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" but xserver still wouldn't start. anyhelp would be appreciated08:16
mustard5gnomefreak, yeah he wants his local system mail...ie localhost@localdomain08:16
blasphthx NoUse08:16
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Maniquignomefreak: ok. I'm looking at my /boot/grub/menu.lst and I can see that the windows entry isnt there anymore. The update seems to overwrite it.08:16
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gnomefreaki think thunderbird does that but dont remember08:16
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bunjeehow do I get a compression tool for ubuntu?08:17
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kodos742i will have a look at evolution...08:17
voraistoswoodsman: what is your graphic card, and your config ?08:17
gnomefreakManiqui: sounds like a kernel update08:17
gnomefreaka bad one08:17
yetiremoving the 810 driver in Synaptec wants to delete X08:17
woodsmanmatrox G400 milenium08:17
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newbie33is here any universal console comand for browsing internet? Id like tu use it on diferent shells08:17
gnomefreakubotu tell Maniqui about grub08:17
ubuntulnxdoes anyone know if the server install of breezy supports wifi as the normal desktop distro?08:18
bunjeeI need to uncompress a tgz file08:18
voraistoswoodsman: and your xserver config? extended desktop?08:18
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Maniquiok, thanks gnomefreak. I will try to add those geeky lines manually...08:18
gnomefreakubotu tell bunjee about tar08:18
bunjeewhat's tar?08:18
mustard5hey kodos742 I have a link :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113796&highlight=thunderbird+local+mail08:18
woodsmanxorg.conf running 2 monitors08:18
mustard5kodos742, found it in the forums ;)08:18
gnomefreakbunjee: read the pm ubotu sent you08:18
voraistosgive it to me08:18
yetiuboto tell newbie33 about lynx08:18
kodos742thanks mustard08:19
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newbie33rkz@tyla:~$ lynx08:19
newbie33bash: lynx: command not found08:19
gnomefreakubotu tell newbie33 -about lynx08:19
newbie33wtf?08:19
hastesavernewbie33, install it if it isn't installed08:19
gnomefreaknewbie33: command would be lynx www.blah blah.com08:19
iocastenewbie08:20
KerneL-Pnewbie33 apt-get install lynx08:20
gnomefreaknewbie33: you have to install it08:20
voraistoswoodsman: send me your file, and tell me, what is your kernel ?08:20
newbie33ok08:20
iocastenewbie33: sudo apt-get install lynx08:20
newbie33sorry08:20
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gnomefreakw3m is the only text browser that is preinstalled08:20
bunjeegnomefreak - what is pm? & who is ubotu?08:20
newbie33I know how to make install :)08:20
woodsmanhow do I send you the file?08:20
newbie33w3m worked but isnt fun08:20
hastesavernewbie33, you can also try w3m and elinks08:20
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hastesavernewbie33, elinks is the best, IMHO08:20
gnomefreak!tar08:20
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iocastenewbie33: or use synaptic08:21
tuxmaniacubotu is a person in here!08:21
ubotutuxmaniac: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:21
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ubuntulnxdoes anyone know if the server install of breezy supports wifi as the normal desktop distro?08:21
voraistoswoodsman: with pastebin, or right click on my username08:21
gnomefreak!+tar08:21
uboturumour has it, tar is ,TAR archives ,in the GUI use 'FileRoller' for all your extraction needs, to extract tar archives from the command line 'tar -xf <file.tar>' or if they are gzipped/bz2zipped use 'tar -xzf <file.tar.gz> '  or  'tar -xjf <flie.tar.bz2> '  respectivly.  'man tar' for more info.08:21
Hexidigitalanyone know if the new Dell Inspiron B120 wireless chipset works with Ubuntu Dapper yet? (or if it is scheduled to be compatible by EdgyEft release?)08:21
gnomefreak^^^ bunjee read that08:21
Maniquia newbie question: when I use a command like "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup", the terminal keeps "locked" and I cant execute any other command until I close  (or ctrl + c) the actual gedit process08:21
newbie33pages with lynx looks terible, w3m much better guys08:21
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Maniquiis that ok? do i need to open another terminal to execute other commands?08:22
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mustard5Maniqui, yes08:22
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bunjeeI did - will try to figure it out later, thanx!08:22
KerneL-Pnewbie33 then use w3m :D depends what you need it for08:22
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gnomefreaknewbie33: use whatever one you like best08:22
mustard5Maniqui, that first terminal is running the gedit application, so it will be tied up08:22
iocastemaniqui: try: gedit file.txt & disown08:22
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voraistoswoodsman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/08:22
mustard5iocaste, hmm interesting :)08:22
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newbie33is any browser can show a gif images?08:22
Maniquithanks mustard5 and iocastle08:23
gnomefreaknewbie33: yeah firefox08:23
Hexidigitallol08:23
newbie33:)08:23
voraistoswoodsman; and then just gimme the URL08:23
hastesaveriocaste, what's disown for? just putting the & at the end is enough, right?08:23
gnomefreaklinks2 -g can also but either way you need a gui type browser iirc08:23
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gnomefreakmustard5: nope why would there be i thought it was a parameter not a commadn08:24
DarKnesS_WolFhow to know if XGL is installed in dapper ? i done a server installation and bulding what i need .08:24
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KerneL-Panyone know anything about hotplugging firmware please pm me.08:24
bunjeeinstall_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz........how do I execute this?08:24
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crimsunmustard5: it's a shell built-in08:24
mustard5gnomefreak, I have no idea :)08:24
mustard5ah ok08:24
gnomefreakDarKnesS_WolF: #ubuntu+1 should beable to help you with that08:24
gnomefreakbunjee: dont need to08:25
gnomefreakbunjee:  see the following post08:25
gnomefreak!flash08:25
bunjeedon't need to what?08:25
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:25
HexidigitalDarKnesS_WolF:: start xgl08:25
ubuntulnxdoes anyone know if the server install of breezy supports wifi as the normal desktop distro?08:25
gnomefreakbunjee: use that link to install flash08:25
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bunjeeok08:25
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gnomefreakbunjee: btw are you on a ppc or 64bit kernel?08:26
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emskoi have a dell laptop and ubuntu 5.10 and for some reason the sound icon in the top right corner always says that the sound is muted, even when it's not. Any ideas?08:26
bunjeeppc08:27
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Maniquignomefreak, you said: >sounds like a kernel update, a bad one08:27
Hexidigital!ftp08:27
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd08:27
gnomefreakbunjee: than you can stop08:27
bunjeewhat is a ppc08:27
Hexidigitalanyone know how to fix the "group nobody" problem in proftpd?08:27
voraistosmac08:27
emskopower pc08:27
emskoold mac08:27
gnomefreakbunjee: what does uname -r say when typed in terminal08:27
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bunjeelike I said - I am brand new at this08:29
gnomefreakbunjee: type uname -r in terminal08:29
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bunjee how do I get too a terminal? alt, f2?08:29
jtdis anyone here familiar with squirrelmail?  I followed the directions as shown here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Squirrelmail but squirrelmail has apparently made no changes at all to my webroot.  there's just nothing there.08:29
apokryphosbunjee: gnome-terminal08:29
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gnomefreakbunjee: applications>accessoiries>terminal08:29
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voraistosor Ctrl ALT F108:30
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hastesavervoraistos, that's evil; they wouldn't know how to get back08:30
gnomefreaklets try to keep him with gui08:30
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M3ATW0Dcan anyone offer some help with sunray's08:30
voraistoswith Ctrl Alt F7 !!!08:30
gnomefreakvoraistos: hes really new08:31
jtdis there any way to see what files belong to a package?08:31
antoninhhh08:31
emskoanyone familiar with dvd::rip ?08:31
voraistosyep, and i am too, but i think thats sooo cool08:31
mustard5emsko, so sound works when it is showing muted?08:31
M3ATW0Di'm having a keyboard issue with gdm08:31
bunjeeuname -r..........2.6.12-10-38608:31
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emskomustard5, yes. I have to get it really loud before the red "x" disappears08:31
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gnomefreakbunjee: ok go get the flash for i38608:32
gnomefreak!flash08:32
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:32
gnomefreak^^from there08:32
mustard5emsko, hmmm strange problem08:32
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emskobut at relatively low volume it still shows as muted08:32
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bunjeeok - will do some more searching - have to go shopping for daughters party - will chat later adios!!08:32
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moro858good evening08:33
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moro858I' m an italian boy08:33
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MisterNmoro858: so?08:33
moro858and this is the first time that I come here08:34
schizoschafhi08:34
mustard5moro858, welcome :)08:34
emskomustard5, the icon only begins to show that the volume is on when I drag the volume scrollbar a third of the way up08:34
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moro858this is the official irc chat of ubuntu?08:34
schizoschafis there a quick way to restore the out of the box smb.conf?08:34
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woodsmanvoraistos  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1343508:34
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emskoso it considers 1% - around 30% of the maximum volume to be "muted"08:34
mustard5emsko, its got me bamboozled...I've never seen that problem :)08:34
emsko:p08:34
emskofigures i'm the one who's got it08:35
mustard5hehe08:35
nicaizhangwhat08:35
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jtdmoro858: yup08:35
nicaizhanghello!08:35
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jtdCan someone tell me how to find out where apt put the files from a package?08:36
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jtdI feel like it's an apt-cache function but I can't find it in the manpages08:36
crimsunjtd: dpkg -L package08:36
speyerwhy my ubuntu start getting crazy after a couple of days running ? if i click on a icon ... its just disappear08:36
jtdthanks crimsun08:36
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speyerany ideea ?08:37
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voraistoswoodsman: what kind of update was it before it crashed ?08:37
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moro858who can help me with some questions?08:37
hastesavermoro858, ask the question(s) first :)08:37
chapiumFor anyone else, does gnome seem slow?  It just doesnt feel... "snappy".  For example, when you bring a window to focus, it seems to take a moment to refresh what is shown.08:37
mustard5moro858, it depends on the question08:37
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|lostbyte|moro858: Ask :) SOmeone with know.08:38
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schizoschafchapium you will notice a difference when comparing to xfce08:38
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woodsmanvoraistos: I did "apt-get update"  then "apt-get upgrade"08:38
speyerchapium i will go for kde now .. i just had gnome for a couple of mounts08:38
moro858what is the latest version of kernel that I can install on ubuntu 5.10 ?????08:38
chapiumschizoschaf: yeah08:38
|lostbyte|schizoschaf: xfce is based on gtk or qt ?08:38
chapiumschizoschaf: compared to xfce or windows even08:38
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chapiumschizoschaf: gtk08:39
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voraistoswoodsman: yea, but what did it do ?08:39
schizoschaf|lostbyte|, im not sure, i guess they have something own08:39
schizoschafok08:39
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mustard5moro858, I assume I have the latest...mine is 2.6.12-10-38608:39
roniezhm.. why do i need to use the cdrom to install apache?08:39
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voraistoswoodsman: and the file you sent me seems completly normal, but for one screen only ?!08:39
hastesavermoro858, 2.6.12-10-386 is installed on mine08:40
chapiumI actually prefer gnome to kde, sans the laggy windows08:40
ahmuck_jranyone using cacti on ubuntu ?08:40
|lostbyte|schizoschaf: ok08:40
mpmcIs it normal for linux to use/cache most (if not all) of my RAM ?08:40
chapiumis this something that xgl fixes?08:40
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jazzanovahi08:40
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warrengso theoretically if i overwrote my libc6 package with an empty libc6 package... and now i have no libc6 anything....... how can i fix it?08:40
schizoschafchapium, the new gnome feels faster to me, but i can't quantify it08:40
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jazzanovaI need to upgrade to udev > 0.57, i have 0.50. How can I do that ?08:40
woodsmanvoraistos:  it updgraded about 70 programs and such on my computer to the latest version.08:40
warrengcan i boot off of a cd08:41
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voraistoswoodsman: was there a kernel update ?08:41
woodsman voraistos:  I'm not sure as I really didn't check what was updated08:41
gnomefreakvoraistos: for breezy yes there was08:41
mustard5jazzanova, what is your current version of ubuntu?  Breezy?08:41
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crimsunwarreng: boot a live cd, download the libc6 deb, mount the fubar fs, and use ar to extract the libc6 deb into the proper place on your fubar fs08:42
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warrengcrimsun: "ar" ?08:42
crimsunwarreng: yes, ar.08:42
kodos752tried evolution mustard, thinks its a better choice :008:42
crimsundebs are just ars.08:43
jazzanovamustard5: how do I check.08:43
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mustard5jazzanova, try   cat /etc/issue08:43
voraistoswoodsman: as far as i can see it, this is a configuration for one dsplay only, using the "mga" driver08:43
jazzanovaUbuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog"08:43
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mustard5kodos742, yeah ..seems to be easier from what I read in the thread..less of a 'hack'08:43
voraistoswoodsman; make sure this driver exists08:43
mustard5jazzanova, you could see what version of udev they have in Breezy and possibly upgrade your system to Breezy08:44
mpmcShould I upgrade or stay with breezy? for the time being?08:44
jazzanovais my system very old?08:44
mustard5jazzanova, you are running an older version of ubuntu08:44
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jazzanovaok.08:44
voraistoswoodsman: i am sorry, i am not a matrox guy, but make sure the driver is the one u need for your graphic card08:44
woodsmanvoraistos: yes I know it is for 1 display.   I'm hoping to get one running and after that I can figure out how to get the other one running again08:44
jazzanovai should upgrade then.08:44
mustard5jazzanova, just one version back from the current08:44
jazzanovahow do I upgrade ?08:44
mustard5jazzanova, yeah..I have  a link for that08:44
mustard5!breezy08:44
ubotuBreezy is the current stable version of Ubuntu. If you would like to upgrade to it, the guide to upgrading to Breezy is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:44
warrengcrimsun: if theoretically i couldn't run any processes because i have no libc.... what would man tell me about "ar"? does it just take a .deb and install it?08:44
kodos752does anyone know anything about configuring courier-imap? I'm trying to setup an imap server08:45
mustard5jazzanova, see the link from ubotu?08:45
jazzanovathanks a lot08:45
jazzanovayes08:45
jazzanovaI will upgrade now.08:45
kbrookswarreng: no, it extracts08:45
mustard5jazzanova, k08:45
voraistoswoodsman: what does your xserver say when it crashes ?08:45
crimsunwarreng: ar is a tool for managing archives (hence 'ar'). A debian package (deb) is just an ar archive with metadata.08:45
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woodsmanI had everything running great before upgrade.   If it installed a new kernel do I need to reconfigure which modules are loaded for the new kernel even though tey were set up for old kernel?08:46
warrengcrimsun: so if i used ar to extract the libc .deb, would it update my dpkg database with the new package?08:46
mikeo1how do i find my keyboard model in system- preferences - keyboard?08:46
mikeo1none are listed08:46
kbrookswarreng: no. all ar does is EXTRACT08:46
crimsunwarreng: the appropriate flag to use with ar is 'x' (for extract). No, it won't touch dpkg at all. It only extracts the file. Think tar.08:46
jivahhello all08:47
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warrengcrimsun: ok.. i'll start with that.. thanks08:47
woodsmanvoraistos: i can't check it right now because I'm running off of knoppix cd on the computer08:47
voraistoswoodsman: possibly, but strange. use a standard driver to get back to xserver08:47
jivahi have a problem with my shell08:48
woodsmanvoraistos: is there a log file I could get that info from?08:48
jedir0xhigh-freq, I'm trying the following guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70428 to install java 1.5 on my newly installed ubuntu (Breezy Badger, 5.x).  However, I'm unable to locate the package "java-package"... i've enabled the extra repositories to no avail.  Any clues? or perhaps alternate ways of installing java 1.5?08:48
mustard5woodsman, what graphics drivers?08:48
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gnomefreakjivah: please explain further08:48
voraistoswoodsman: yea. try to use a damn VGA driver, so u can get back to graphics on your system, and see real time what is going on08:48
voraistosfor the log, i have no idea where it cou;d be08:49
gnomefreakwoodsman: try the vesa driver in xorgs config08:49
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jivahgnomefreak, well when i try to be a su root, it failed08:49
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gnomefreakjivah: su is disabled in ubuntu   ubuntu uses sudo08:49
yaaarword08:49
gnomefreakubotu tell jivah about root08:49
jivahahh08:49
gnomefreakjivah: read teh pm ubotu sent you08:50
voraistosif you need to, there is a way to activate root08:50
r0xoRdoes ubuntu have an auto log off feature by default?08:50
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r0xoRi keep coming back to my machine and i've been logged out automatically08:50
gnomefreakvoraistos: please dont suggest that08:50
woodsmanvoraistos: ok I will give this a try   thanks folks.08:50
venoxyou can use `sudo su` to use the root account :)08:50
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method|i have a laptop and when i touch the touchpad in a certain way horizontally it moves windows, causes my browser to go back or to another misc. website, switches desktops, etc. How can I disable this?08:50
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yaaaris there any way to make spatial nautilus not leave windows behind everywhere i go? i just want to progress through the filesystem in one window (which would change size/properties the way the spatial windows come up) but not end up with a window leftover for each subdirectory08:51
yaaar(i'm on dapper)08:51
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gnomefreakyaaar: why didnt you ask in #ubuntu+1?08:51
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r0xoRmethod|, i don't know that there is a way... there might be a kernel level driver that you can remove that will keep those features from working08:51
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jedir0xhigh-freq, I'm trying the following guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70428 to install java 1.5 on my newly installed ubuntu (Breezy Badger, 5.x).  However, I'm unable to locate the package "java-package"... i've enabled the extra repositories to no avail.  Any clues? or perhaps alternate ways of installing java 1.5?08:51
kbrooksyaaar: use browser mode.08:52
njangnomefreak, because it isn't a dapper-specific issue, properly08:52
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yaaarkbrooks: uh, yeah......08:52
tdnHow do I convert a wave PCM file to mp3 or ogg fast in ubuntu from console?08:52
kbrooksyaaar: *FINDING*08:52
yaaarkbrooks: note the first sentence...."any way to make SPATIAL nautilus..."08:52
crimsuntdn: look at gst-launch-0.8 (breezy) or gst-launch-0.10 (dapper)08:53
crimsuntdn: or use lame, or ...08:53
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blasphwhat's the easy way to get my firefox to support java?08:53
mustard5jedir0x, you could try the instructions at this URL https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:53
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AnAntwhy is the 'realplayer' package in synaptics an old (non-working) one ? yet in the Ubuntu help they provide a URL for realplayer-10, I mean, why isn't realplayer-10 in Ubuntu's repos ?08:53
kbrooksyaaar: just don't use it.08:53
hastesaverblasph, the same goes for you --  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:53
tdncrimsun, ok. Apt-get install what for lame?08:54
yaaarkbrooks: surely you don't really, honestly consider that answering the question, do you?08:54
NoUseAnAnt ones a version of ubuntu has been released, packages aren't changed unless it is a security fix08:54
seliniumyaaar, here is a setting that allows you to use the same window. I'll try and find it..08:54
AnAnttdn: apt-get install lame (I think)08:54
NoUseAnAnt check what version is in dapper: http://packages.ubuntu.com08:54
kbrooksyaaar: i do not have an answer to stopping spatial nautilus from leaving redundant windows behind08:54
blasphthx hastesaver08:54
AnAntNoUse: the one that is in the repos is not working, it requires a 'xlibs' package, which doesn't exist08:55
tdnAnAnt, ok. Thanks.08:55
g0dchildcan someone please help me to install amarok-1.3.9 :S08:55
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kbrooksg0dchild: uh. did you download it from the site?08:56
g0dchildyeah, i have the source i downloaded from arhives.ubuntu.com.08:56
NoUse!info xlibs08:56
ubotuxlibs: (X Window System client library transitional package), section libs, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 284 kB08:56
NoUseAnAnt yeah it is08:56
Pokerubotu, p2p08:56
ubotuI guess p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo08:56
g0dchildkbrooks, Problem is it wont compile- first, i compiled without gstreamer- which i think needs to be compiled08:57
jtdis anyone here familiar with squirrelmail?  I followed the directions as shown here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Squirrelmail but squirrelmail has apparently made no changes at all to my webroot.  there's just nothing there.  I think the installation process was supposed to link to something in /usr/share, so that Apache would go over there to do Squirrelmail, but I don't think that happened and I don't know how to set it up correctly08:57
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gnomefreakAnAnt: no xlibs package in dapper08:57
gnomefreakthis is why we have #ubuntu+1 ;) not everything is the same08:57
gnomefreak!find xlibs dapper08:58
ubotuxlibs-dev: (X Window System client library development files transitional package), section oldlibs, is extra. Version: 7.0.0-0ubuntu33 (dapper), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 36 kB08:58
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yaaarselinium: thanks for the help. if you find it, let me know....but it'll prolly be a while before i see it, as i've got to leave and meet my lady friend for lunch08:58
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yaaarthanks08:58
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NoUseAnAnt its a known bug in dapper https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/realplayer/+bug/3273808:59
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hastesaverg0dchild, do you want an even more recent version than in the "http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest breezy main" source? Because you can get that using apt-get, and it will be *much* easier08:59
gnomefreakAnAnt: install the xlibs-dev package08:59
jdmpikedoes anyone know how to help me trouble shoot my USB hub that no longer works?08:59
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jdmpikedmesg can see that it is connected09:00
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blasphhastesaver: I installed the blackdown java package and firefox still says it's missing the plugin. anything more I need to do?09:00
jdmpike[4294935.695000]  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3[4294935.825000]  hub 2-1:1.0: USB hub found09:00
jdmpike[4294935.827000]  hub 2-1:1.0: 4 ports detected09:00
jdmpikebut when I plug things into it, nothing...09:00
jtdso what happens when you try to use it, jdmpike09:00
gnomefreakubotu tell jdmpike about pastebin09:00
jtddmesg produces no results?09:00
hastesaverblasph, did you read through that page completely? There was a section on "Java in firefox" or something09:01
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jdmpikegnomefreak, sorry09:01
AnAntbut even it is an old realplayer version (8), yet in the help they put URL for a new version (10), I was just wondering why it isn't in the repos09:01
g0dchildhastesaver, ah, i am sorry- i didnt try that easy-installation script from the website yet...had to go out- can you plase give it to me once more?09:01
blasphhastesaver: oops =x09:01
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jdmpikegnomefreak, I thought three lines was within the limit09:01
jedir0xwhere's a good place to put my custom debs ?09:01
gnomefreakjdmpike: no pasting because 3 lines doesnt always add up to 3 lines09:01
hastesaver!tell godchild about easysource09:01
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jdmpikegnomefreak, gotcha09:02
mustard5jdmpike, so what specifically is happening ?09:02
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|Sivik|what is the command to start a gui?09:02
r0xoRhow can i test whether esd is working?09:02
yggdrasilwin ?09:02
jdmpikemustard5, I plug in my hub, dmesg recognizes it09:03
jdmpikemustard5, I plug devices into my hub - *nothing*09:03
jtdhave you tried another hub?09:03
mustard5jdmpike, is it a powered hub?09:03
jdmpikemustard5, I plug those same devices into my USB port, still works09:03
jdmpikemustard5, yes, it is a powered hub09:03
blasphthere we go, thanks hastesaver09:04
hastesaverblasph, yw09:04
jdmpikemustard5, dmesg recognizes the 4-ports of the hub09:04
mustard5jdmpike, yep09:04
mustard5jdmpike, nothing shows in the logs when you plug something in?09:05
mustard5jdmpike, other than the hub that is :)09:05
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voraistoshow can u people install Flash ? look at that:09:05
voraistosI: checking http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/...09:05
voraistoswrong adress ?!09:05
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g0dchildhastesaver, by any chance it wouldnt mess up the system isnt it...and lead to haste? ;)09:06
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chaos_of_apocalypeople can you tell me how to configure the sound board in linux??because i dont hear a thing!!!09:06
jtdthat's not an address, voraistos, you put an ellipse at the end of it09:06
jdmpikemustard5, yup - if I plug something into the usb ports it shows up in dmesg09:06
voraistosjtd: this is the log when i apt-get09:06
jtdapt-get?  what are you apt-getting?  what package name?09:07
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voraistosjtd: wait up09:07
mustard5jdmpike, what are you plugging into the hub?09:07
hastesaverg0dchild, I don't think it will.. I was using it for a while with no problems09:07
chaos_of_apocalypeople can you tell me how to configure the sound board in linux??because i dont hear a thing!!!09:07
voraistosjtd: flashplugin-nonfree09:07
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voraistosjtd: same error with firefox09:08
ajacksonchaos_of_apocaly: did you turn the volume up?09:08
mustard5chaos_of_apocaly, you haven't mentioned what soundcard you are using btw :)09:08
chaos_of_apocalyoff course ajackson09:08
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webwolf_27I want to create an apt repo on DVD, for my brother-in-law ( who does not yet have an internet connection ). I only need the i386 data. Can somebody give me a tip as to how to do this09:08
chaos_of_apocalyi will come back later now i have to go09:08
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mustard5heh09:09
jtdvoraistos: are you on Dapper?09:09
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voraistosnope09:09
_jasonwebwolf_27: check this out, I've never actually done it, but ti seems to be what you want: http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en09:09
emp__is there a php5.0 pdf package for hoary?09:09
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jtdyou already did flashplayer-mozilla?09:09
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webwolf_27_Jason, looking now09:09
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gnomefreak!flash09:10
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:10
voraistosjtd. hum... let me check09:10
hastesaveremp,  what does php have to do with pdf? I don't undertand (or I'm ignorant)09:10
gnomefreak^^ one command to run for flash09:10
jtdnot according to the wiki, gnome09:10
voraistosjtd: yeah, but it is not there anymore for some reason09:10
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jtdwait, nevermind09:11
emphastesaver, there is a 'php-fpdf' package (it allows php to create pdf files) but this package is for php4 and not php509:11
jtdwhat is not there anymore?09:11
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voraistos"Package flashplayer-mozilla is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:11
voraistosThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:11
voraistosis only available from another source09:11
voraistos"09:11
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NoUseemp hoary is an older version of ubuntu, you might see if its in Breezy: http://packages.ubuntu.com09:11
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jtdthat doesn't make any sense.09:11
voraistosjtd: no09:12
jtdsudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla is what you do for Breezy09:12
NoUse!tell voraistos about repos09:12
jtdsudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree and try again09:12
jtdah, yes09:12
jtdyou might not have added the correct repository09:12
voraistosjtd; and with firefox autoinstall, it just doesnt work either09:12
jtdmake sure you have universe and multiverse added there09:12
voraistosand yes i have lots of repositories ;)09:13
hastesaveremp, Oh, I see. Ask the maintainer of the package, then? ;)09:13
crimsunno, flashplugin-nonfree is the _correct_ package. flashplayer-mozilla was removed from dapper because it's not legal for us to distribute the plugin in binary form from our repos.09:13
NoUsevoraistos you don't have the right ones09:13
jtdcrimsun: so the wiki is wrong?09:13
jtdalso, we're talking Breezy, not Dapper09:13
crimsunjtd: the wiki should refer to flashplugin-nonfree in all instances.09:13
jedir0xso after installing java 1.5, when i issue "java -version" it shows 1.4... and the GNU java... how do i update the environment information... or remove the other java version?09:14
voraistosi have universe and multiverse, all the ubuntu stuff, sum dutch stuff as well09:14
gnomefreakok it will be fixed09:14
jtdhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:14
jtdit doesn't.09:14
gnomefreakit will09:14
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NoUsevoraistos can you pastebin your sources.list?09:14
jedir0xso after installing java 1.5, when i issue "java -version" it shows 1.4... and the GNU java... how do i update the environment information... or remove the other java version?09:14
jtdis anyone here familiar with squirrelmail?  I followed the directions as shown here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Squirrelmail but squirrelmail has apparently made no changes at all to my webroot.  there's just nothing there.  I think the installation process was supposed to link to something in /usr/share, so that Apache would go over there to do Squirrelmail, but I don't think that happened and I don't know how to set it up correctly09:14
voraistosNoUse; where is it again ?09:15
NoUse!pastebin09:15
ubotu[pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126909:15
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voraistosNoUse: the file, not paste bin ;)09:15
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gnomefreakcrimsun: what about the setup commadn?09:15
NoUsevoraistos /etc/apt/sources.list09:15
k0walskyhi everybody09:15
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beligumHi all, I've got a small question regarding OpenGL changes from Breezy to Dapper09:15
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k0walskyany italian supporter?09:16
jeff303how can I change what firefox considers  the "default" pdf application?  (this has nothing to do with mozplugger)09:16
jedir0xsweet09:16
jedir0xupdate-alternatives09:16
crimsungnomefreak: for flashplugin-nonfree?09:16
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r0xoRdoes ubuntu have a "system restore" type feature? wherein i can revert back to a previous filesystem state?09:16
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NoUser0xoR not that I know of09:17
gnomefreakcrimsun: yes like the one for dapper?09:17
r0xoRoh well09:17
voraistosNoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1343809:17
beligumMy program draws an OpenGL mesh (using a .obj file) and displays the model perfectly under Breezy. However, in Dapper, it's all messed up. Can someone tell me what changed in Dapper that could be the cause of this?09:17
mdkedoes anyone know how I can change a whole lot of files at the same time? I just wanna strip something out of a lot of filenames09:17
crimsungnomefreak: dapper's package works fine; are you referring to breezy's not being able to contact the server?09:17
mustard5r0xoR, you would have to install some type of backup system09:17
r0xoRyeh, thought so09:17
gnomefreakcrimsun: no i just changed the wiki but do i need to add sudo update-flashplugin for breezy/hoary?09:18
hastesaverk0walsky, if you mean italian speaker, try #ubuntu-it09:18
crimsungnomefreak: it may be needed. I don't currently have a breezy system to test.09:18
k0walskytanks09:18
|Sivik|command to start an xsession09:18
NoUsevoraistos copy from this file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604709:18
gnomefreakjtd: try to install it as the wiki says now please and let me know09:19
mustard5|Sivik|, startx ?09:19
gnomefreakty crimsun09:19
|Sivik|thats it09:19
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jtdgnomefreak: wasn't me, it was voraistos :)09:19
gnomefreakty jtd09:19
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voraistosNoUse; u mean i have to replace the whole thing with that ?09:20
gnomefreakvoraistos: try to install flash as it says on wiki now please and let me know if it works09:20
voraistosgnomefreak; ok i try that out09:20
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jtdoooo.  Raytheon.  sessy.09:21
voraistosgnomefreak; which one ?09:21
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gnomefreakvoraistos: the one for breezy09:21
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voraistosi have free flash flash, flash player standalone, etc ...?09:21
gnomefreakvoraistos: run this command sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree09:22
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mdkeanyone?09:22
voraistosgnomefreak; i tried that09:22
gnomefreakvoraistos: you have flash already?09:22
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mustard5mdke, I missed the question09:22
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mdkemustard5:09:22
mdkedoes anyone know how I can change a whole lot of files at the same time? I just wanna strip something out of a lot of filenames09:22
voraistosgnomefreak; i should, but it doesnt work !09:22
mustard5ah ok09:22
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gnomefreakvoraistos: did you restart the browser? (all of them)09:23
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mustard5mdke, I don't know the command but I assume you would use awk or something09:23
voraistosyep, even the machine ;)09:23
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mdkemustard5: I'll take a look09:23
NoUsevoraistos did the apt-get command finish successfully?09:23
zielonyCan you give me name of good downloader for linux, with resuming etc.  (No d4x plz )09:23
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hastesavermdke, what exactly do you want to? change files or only filenames?09:23
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mdkehastesaver: just filenames.09:23
voraistosNoUse: one of them, yeah, but not the other one09:24
hastesavermdke, and what kind of changes?09:24
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voraistoslet me check09:24
mdkehastesaver: stripping a few letters out of each of them.09:24
NoUsemdke you'd do that with bash scripting probably, but I don't know how09:25
gnomefreakvoraistos: did you try sudo update-flashplugin09:25
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voraistosno, i try that09:25
hastesavermdke, ok, then as mustard5 said, something that can do regexes -- sed, awk, perl, ...09:25
gnomefreakvoraistos: run that close all browsers than try09:25
jtddoes anyone know how to make mail work with dyndns?09:25
jtdsomething about the MX record?09:25
jtdwhen I try to make the MX my machine it tells me it didn't resolve or resolved to a cname.09:26
mdkehastesaver: I don't know how to use any of those.09:26
jeff303does anyone know why evince is my default application/pdf handler in defaults.list, and in Nautilus, yet Firefox still thinks the default pdf app is gpdf?09:26
voraistosbenjamin@ender:~$ sudo update-flashplugin09:26
voraistosChecking new upstream release...09:26
voraistosI: checking http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/...09:26
voraistosE: Unknown HTTP error: fpdownload.macromedia.com09:26
voraistosE: All failed.09:26
hastesavermdke, could you give a concrete example of the change you want to make?09:26
mustard5mdke, neither do I unfortunately :)09:26
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NoUse!tell voraistos about flood09:26
gnomefreakvoraistos: dont paste in here09:26
mustard5mdke, I hear they are very useful though ;)09:26
voraistossorry, i thougt that was small enough09:26
gnomefreakvoraistos: thats what i was just told the flash site is down09:26
voraistosno09:26
gnomefreakadobe is messing up too09:27
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voraistosjust the adress is wrong09:27
torviehi09:27
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mdkehastesaver: OK. I have lots of files with different names, all containing the same letters "-nq8", which I want to replace with "".09:27
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mdkei.e. nothing09:27
mustard5voraistos, the 'fp' part looks like it should be 'ftp'...09:28
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gnomefreakvoraistos: ok lets try the sever is not working properly09:28
grafthey, where libvisual0.2-plugins is at?09:28
deb_"Cannot find kernel config file". Does anybody know why this happens?09:28
graftit's recommended by some packages but doesn't seem to be in the repos...09:28
mustard5voraistos, but I'm probably wrong :)09:28
hastesavermdke, echo "foo-nq8bar" | sed -e s/-nq8// prints foobar09:28
mustard5voraistos, I guess it stands for 'flashplayer' :P09:29
mdkehastesaver: but all the files have different names except for those letters. I need to do the same command on every file.09:29
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gnomefreakmustard5: flash-plugin not player09:29
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hastesavermdke, so you would do something like: for i in *; do echo a=`"$i" | sed -e s/-nq8//`; mv $i $a; done09:29
hastesavermdke, but be careful, I'm not very sure09:30
mustard5gnomefreak, ah :)09:30
voraistosyea, i once found the real adress, but it changed again sice09:30
mdkehastesaver: alright, thanks.09:30
voraistossince*09:30
hastesavermdke, I think this works: for i in *; do echo a=`"$i" | sed -e s/-nq8//`; mv "$i" "$a"; done09:30
jeff303ok apparently firefox gets its default apps from /etc/mailcap ...bizzare09:30
_jasonvoraistos: download the tar.gz from the site, you can use the script on a local file09:30
voraistosnot on the site either09:31
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_jasonvoraistos: I have it, do you want a dcc?09:31
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g0dchildcan someone suggest an application with which I can keep tabs on the no. of MBytes transmitted/recieved?09:31
voraistos_jason: yeah !09:31
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ubuntuespaok09:31
cirohi alll09:31
mustard5greetings ciro09:32
ubuntuespamuackksss09:32
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cirosome days ago I created a new user deleting the other one created during installation ...09:32
cironow I have some nig problems ...09:32
_jasonvoraistos: do you know how to run the script on the local file?09:32
ciro*big09:32
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voraistosno :'(09:33
richardhello all09:33
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cironew used isn't able to open automatically cds and I can't burn cds09:33
cirowho can help me?09:33
_jasonvoraistos: sudo update-flashplugin /path/to/directory/CONTAINING/the/targz09:33
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jeff303ciro: what do you want to do?  restore the old user's files?09:33
jeff303ciro, want to make the old user's homedir into your new homedir?09:33
voraistos_jason; thx ;)09:33
richardhas any one managed to install english uk thesaurus in open office?09:34
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cirojeff303, I want new user can burn and open cds09:34
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cironow he's not able to do that09:34
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jeff303ciro, what errors are you getting?09:34
cirojeff303, wait 4 a while09:34
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mustard5ciro, you might need to add the user to the group for the cdrom player09:34
KiD|Vidjeuhi can't boot from a cd on my computer, what do i need to do now ?09:35
ciromustard5, I already did it09:35
tarheelchange your bios settings09:35
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KiD|Vidjeuhi have done that09:35
cirojeff303, eject: unable to open `/dev/hdc'09:35
mustard5ciro, so it is showing the user in that group in /etc/group file?09:35
gnomefreakKiD|Vidjeuh: put cd in and reboot?09:35
jeff303ciro: /dev/hdc sounds like a hard drive to me09:35
fantasaican I switch a Debian-based system to Ubuntu without changing the core part of the OS (kernel, networking, etc)?09:36
KiD|Vidjeuhi have done that, but it always start windows09:36
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mustard5jeff303, nah..its the cd drive09:36
jeff303mustard5, ok my mistake09:36
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[FN] FunstarHi there. My Dad always kills his Windows with Spyware, Trojans and so on. Because he is a noob on any OS (Windows, too) I thought I could install Linux on his machine. For this I am searching for a Linux where you can simply download an application from the web and install it with one click. As easy as on Windows. No compiling, no missing packets, just click and install. Is Ubuntu what I am searching for? Or is another Linux the better ch09:36
gnomefreakfantasai: no and if you do very good chance it wont run09:36
cirojeff303, it appears me when I try to eject cdrom09:36
gnomefreak[FN] Funstar: you dont need spyware tools on linux09:36
jeff303ciro, hmm, I wonder if it works when you sudo?09:36
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tarheelgentoo linux is the best distro09:37
[FN] Funstargnomefreak, that's why I want to install Linux on his computer!09:37
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kwtm[FN] Funstar: There are a number of Linux distro's that fit your needs.  At this point I would say Ubuntu probably has the most potential, and apparently the friendliest user discussion forum.09:37
tarheelbut i like this ubuntu09:37
JonBoonfunstar, ubuntu is probably the closest youre going to get09:37
cirojeff303, I dont know because I try to eject the cdrom by clickin on the cdrom desktop icon with the right click/eject09:37
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_jasonvoraistos: I messed up the syntax, you want update-flashplugin -l09:37
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mustard5[FN] Funstar, it sounds like you are describing Linspire :)09:37
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jeff303ciro, ok hmm.. sorry don't know what command that actually invokes09:37
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kwtm[FN] Funstar: Mandrake was previously good, but because of upgrading issues, I didn't want to use them any more.09:38
cirojeff303, sorry for my english but it is not my first language09:38
tarheelthey are coding linspire09:38
tarheelstill09:38
[FN] Funstarmustard5 wopuld you say Linspire would be better than Ubuntu for my Dad?09:38
jeff303ciro, are you able to mount the CD rom and view its files?09:38
cirojeff303, no I m sorry I dont know :P09:38
blasphubuntu doesn't recognize all of the multimedia keys on my keyboard, and now I'm trying KeyTouch but it doesn't change a thing (even though it can sense each and every key, unlike the thingy that comes with Ubuntu)...09:38
dasteve2hello all, does anyone know what would cause a fuzzy looking display after setting up the fglrx driver, its on a laptop, radeon 9000m09:38
mustard5[FN] Funstar, I've never used it personally..09:38
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mustard5[FN] Funstar, have a read of some of the distros available and www.distrowatch.com09:38
kwtm[FN] Funstar: Linspire is not as well known to me; I don't know what other people's experiences have been.09:38
tarheeldoesnt linspire supposed to work and appear like xp09:38
mustard5[FN] Funstar, *at I meant to say09:39
KaLhello09:39
cirojeff303, some day ago my ubuntu said me that I had to mount cdrom with pmount but I added my user to cdrom grouip and it stopped to ask me that09:39
g0dchildhi, i used that source-o-matic thingy, but there still no updates for amarok09:39
shylockis it ok to ask questions about the installer here, this will take pretty long time to explain i i dont typer very fast09:39
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jeff303ciro, so you are having problems ejecting it?  hmm I wonder if it's still mounted?09:39
voraistos_jason:  everything is fine, but no, it doesnt work09:39
kwtm[FN] Funstar: Red Hat may be good, but apparently will take some maintenance.  If you are living with your dad and will be around if he needs help, would be useful.09:39
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voraistosmaybe because of the new firefox version ?09:39
cirojeff303, not only ejectin but also burn cds09:39
shylockthing is i normally use windows xp09:40
_jasonvoraistos: it isntalled without errors?09:40
shylockbut suddenly i cant boot up any more09:40
dasteve2does anyone have experience using the fglrx driver??09:40
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[FN] Funstarkwtm, no he lives 50km away. I would like to help him by SSH or VNC.09:40
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IcemanV9i think ubuntu would be great for Dad - everything just works (so far)09:40
shylocki dont want to throw all my data away09:40
voraistoseverything went fine09:40
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_jasonvoraistos: did you close all instances of firefox and start it again?09:40
voraistosyea09:40
shylockso i decide to set up ubuntu so i can access my ntfs partition09:40
g0dchildHello...has anyone got the latest amarok release installed?09:40
jeff303ciro, can you try "sudo umount /dev/hdc"?09:40
_jasonvoraistos: oh you are using 1.5 in breezy?09:41
blasphdo I need to do anything in xorg.conf or somewhere to get Ubuntu to recognize all of the multimedia buttons on my keyboard?09:41
mustard5shylock, are you saying you can't boot anything?  or just can't boot XP?09:41
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voraistos1.5.0.3 i think, the latest one09:41
shylockno just xp09:41
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kwtm[FN] Funstar: It sounds like your dad has a stable net connection, so, yes, Ubuntu is definitely worth trying.  Which distro do you yourself use?  It would be useful for both of you to use the same distro.09:41
_jasonvoraistos: you installed it to /opt?09:41
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mustard5shylock, so what happens when you attempt it?09:41
voraistosyea !09:41
shylockmustard5,  a dll is missing09:41
shylockand i tried copy it back from dllcashe09:41
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shylockcache09:42
_jasonvoraistos: what does this return: ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/*flash*09:42
kwtm[FN] Funstar: I would make sure you have used it for at least 1 week before installing it on dad's computer.   You gave a distance in km, so I'm guessing you're not in the USA.09:42
cirojeff303, umount: /dev/hdc: not mounted09:42
shylockbut it seems to be removed any time windows boots09:42
mustard5shylock, any idea what the dll is called?09:42
shylockhowever09:42
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[FN] FunstarI don't use Linux as desktop system because I play sometimes. The only cause I got Windoze on my machine09:42
tarheeldont use any distro with kde in it09:42
shylockmustard5,  w8 i check09:42
jeff303ciro, try just "eject" - on my system this ejects the cd rom09:42
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voraistos_jason; /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so09:42
shylockmustard5,  msvcrt.dll09:42
jeff303ciro, better yet, try "eject -v" to see all the output09:43
voraistosin a strange/ very clear blue color09:43
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kwtmtarheel: Why not use a distro with KDE in it?  Or do you mean, "don't use KDE"?09:43
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mustard5shylock, hmmm..ok. not sure what that is :)09:43
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_jasonvoraistos: hmm how about: ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/*flash*09:43
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shylockhowever i try to install ubuntu09:43
[FN] FunstarOkay, I'll compare Linspire and Ubuntu and give it a try at my dads computer. Thank you very much09:43
cirojeff303, the problem is taht ubuntu doent mount cdrom automatically because I gotta go in computer/cdrom open (and so mount) it09:43
gnomefreaktarheel: and kwtm can you take the desktop debate to #ubuntu-offtopic please09:43
shylockso i can access my music (i do my work on a remote mashine anyway)09:43
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tarheeli freaking hate kde its painfully slow09:44
jeff303ciro, so the CD is in there, but not mounted?  do you get an error when you try "eject" from the terminal?09:44
cirojeff303, the problem is taht ubuntu doent mount cdrom automatically because I gotta go in computer/cdrom to open it09:44
shylockso when it comes to partitioning09:44
voraistos_jason: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so09:44
voraistos in green09:44
shylocki have a 120 GB win partition09:44
gnomefreak_jason: what if he didnt symlink the flash plugin to new version of ff?09:44
cirojeff303, eject when it is mounted or not?09:44
shylockntfs09:44
P3L|C4N0greetings09:44
jeff303ciro, I think it will unmount it for you if it's mounted09:44
eugmanHey is there a way to do a search in the packages to find instances of tex but exclude results where where a t directly follows after tex? Also anyone know of a good .tex reader?09:44
jeff303ciro, check "man eject"09:44
_jasongnomefreak: right09:44
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jeff303eugman, a tex file is just a text file09:44
shylockubuntu installer says u can choose between 105 to 120 GB for partition size09:44
jeff303eugman, I use emacs to edit them09:45
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shylocki choose 10509:45
_jasonvoraistos: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins09:45
shylockthe comp goes into think tank09:45
voraistosshylock: why dont u just format it onto sum cool reiserFS or Ext3 ?09:45
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cirojeff303, ciro@CIRO:~$ eject09:45
ciroeject: unable to open `/dev/hdc'09:45
shylockvoraistos,  i need to keep my win stuff09:45
shylockall my mp3 in there09:45
jeff303ciro, try doing "sudo eject"09:45
eugmanJeff303, Oh foolish me. I thought that because it was something special.09:45
mustard5shylock, ah ok..so its hanging on the partitioning part of the install09:45
shylockyea09:45
gnomefreakciro: you have gui?09:45
AnAntI get this error when setting LANG=en_US :09:45
kwtmtarheel: Most modern distros come with GNOME, KDE, and other desktop environments.  If you didn't use a distro with KDE, you'd be eliminating a lot of distros.  I guess what you mean is that if you use such a distro, then don't use the KDE that comes with it.09:45
eugmanGah, My two trains of through collided.09:45
cirojeff303, with sudo it works09:45
shylockso after i while i come back to the partition screen09:46
mustard5shylock, I'll have a look for a guide that might help you...09:46
n00blarhello all, quick question...is there an application like karamba that can run in ubuntu or wil karamba run in ubuntu?09:46
shylockbut it still says ntfs 120 GB09:46
jeff303eugman, I find the auctex package very cool for editing tex files (it adds a bunch of menus to emacs)09:46
shylockvery strange09:46
kwtmeugman: "apt-cache search tex | grep tex[^t] "09:46
voraistos_jason; "ln: `/opt/firefox/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so': File exists09:46
voraistos" this is the output09:46
shylockso i reboot and try again09:46
jeff303ciro, it actually ejects?  maybe it is a permission issue?09:46
tarheelthats why i run redhat or ubuntu or gentoo09:46
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bluefoxicyubotu, spe09:46
ubotubluefoxicy: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:46
bluefoxicyubotu, ide09:46
ubotubluefoxicy: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:46
bluefoxicyubotu, are you useful at all09:47
ubotubluefoxicy: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:47
_jasonvoraistos: and after closing all firefox and opening again http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ doesn't work?09:47
shylockthis time i come to the partitioning part and it says your ntfs partition can be between 5 MB and 120 GB09:47
cirojeff303, I dont know you are hte person who's tryin to help me :D09:47
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AlinuxSOShello, guys Is there some software that changes my IP every minute or something similar ?09:47
eugmanJeff303, is Tex the same and LaTex?09:47
shylockvery strange09:47
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chmod775how can I upgrade to drapper09:47
chmod775?09:47
_jason!upgrade09:47
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .09:47
shylockit should be at least 100 GB of data on the ntfs partition09:47
jeff303eugman, that I'm not sure of... but I think LaTeX is a superset of TeX09:47
hastesavereugman, LaTeX is a set of macros on TeX, it's simpler to use09:47
cirojeff303, I supposed it was a permission issue but I dont know what to do to solve it09:47
DBOAlinuxSOS, you could fairly easily write a script to do it... but why?09:47
shylockbut i set it to 110 anyway09:47
shylockcomputer thinks for a while and i get back to boot meny09:47
mustard5shylock, try reading over this guide and see if it helps http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/09:48
shylockstill ntfs partition 120 GB09:48
yetihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1343909:48
shylockmustard5,  ty very much i check09:48
yetistill no proper X config09:48
hastesavereugman, TeX is more at the barebones level, LaTeX is sort of a frontend to TeX and is somewhat high level09:48
yetiI must be stupid09:48
jeff303ciro, look in System/Administration/Users and Groups, and see if your new user is in the right ones09:48
AlinuxSOSDBO, is there some software?09:48
shylockmustard5, ahh that one09:48
AlinuxSOSit's for testing.09:48
shylockalready read it09:48
eugmanHmmm, it looks like I do need a viewer for Tex. I opened it with text editor to read it and it's unformatted. What can I use to read it "all pretty lookin' ".09:48
mustard5shylock, ah ok09:48
DBOAlinuxSOS, nothing I am explicitly aware of...09:48
cirojeff303, I dont know which groups are the right ones09:49
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shylockthge funnty thing is when i boot up into recovery mode from a xp disc09:49
jeff303ciro, you are in "cdrom"?09:49
shylockand make a dir09:49
mustard5shylock, that guide is probably better than I can do with explanations :)09:49
yetihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1344009:49
kwtmAlinuxSOS: couldn't you do a script to release and then re-request an IP address?  What's the command for that, guys, "ifconfig --release" or something?09:49
shylockit says 45 MB used09:49
shylock120 GB free09:49
holycowwhat is the easiest way to zero out a drive?09:49
shylock?????09:49
yetii am still stuck in 1024x76809:49
cirojeff303, yes Im09:50
shylockwhen it should be like 15 GB free09:50
shylockbut all files still there09:50
mustard5Have you got a liveCD?09:50
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jeff303ciro, hmm here is something... go to the Users tab in there, do properties on your user, then go to  User priveleges and see if "Use CD-Rom devices" is checked09:50
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mustard5shylock, have you got a liveCD?09:50
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shylockmustard5,  yeahh thats what i use now09:50
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n00blarIs there an application like karamba that can run in ubuntu or wil karamba run in ubuntu?09:50
cirojeff303, it is checked09:50
kwtmAlinuxSOS: It would be something ilke "while 1; do ifconfig --release; ifconfig --acquire; done" or whatever the right commands are.  I'll probably need someone else to figure out the specifics.09:50
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mustard5shylock, ah ok..so what do you see from the live CD in terms of the partition sizes?09:50
AlinuxSOSI need something similar to http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Network_and_Internet/Proxy_Server_Tools/Free_Proxyway_anonymous_surfing.html09:50
AlinuxSOSthis09:50
shylockmustard5,  good question how do i see that09:51
shylockmustard5, in the file manager?09:51
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mustard5shylock, try sudo fdisk -l09:51
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jeff303ciro, sorry, then I really don't know, try asking on ubuntuforums.org09:51
shylockmustard5,  do i have to mount the ntfs oone first?09:51
ubuntuhello does any know a PowerPc chanel?09:52
mustard5shylock, no.not for that command09:52
cirojeff303, no problem tnx 4 helpin me09:52
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mustard5shylock, that should just list the partitions that linux can see09:52
eugmanAlinuxSoS, If you need privacy you might want to try using tor.09:52
_jasonvoraistos: still there?09:52
|Lord_Zoo|#join #ubuntu+109:52
voraistosyea09:52
|Lord_Zoo|ups09:52
Winkiesup buttes09:52
phaceanyone resloved the acpi issue on hp nx 6125 ?09:52
shylockDisk /dev/hda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes09:52
shylock255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders09:52
shylockUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes09:52
shylock   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System09:52
shylock/dev/hda1   *           1       14592   117210208+   7  HPFS/NTFS09:52
_jasonvoraistos: did you try what I said?09:52
shylocksorry for flooding09:53
mustard5shylock, no pasting in the main channel ;)09:53
voraistos_jason: yea, did nothing09:53
eugman!pastebin09:53
ubotuI guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126909:53
biberaohow to get WPA to work on ubuntu pls09:53
_EduArDo_Im using ubunto and I created a file with iptables rules to activate my firewall and now i want the system to inicialize it automatically. what should i do? where should i put it?09:53
voraistos_jason; i think i am just giving up for a while, my system is all screwed anyway09:53
mustard5shylock, ok..maybe you can try partitioning from the live CD09:53
voraistos_jason: i will make a frsh install with the next stable version of ubuntu available09:54
_jasonvoraistos: well the files didn't get installed.  What you have there seems to be from flashplayer-mozilla09:54
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shylockmustard5, sounds like plan!!09:54
shylockmustard5, any hint where to start09:54
M3ATW0Dcan anyone help me with sunrays09:54
mustard5shylock, you would need to install a good graphical paritioning program09:54
kwtmAlinuxSOS: Okay, I think it's "while 1; do dhclient -r eth0; dhclient eth0; done" (replace eth0 with whatever interface you're using)09:54
jeff303shylock, gparted09:54
mustard5shylock, have you used the terminal before?09:54
shylockmustard5, yeahh but long time ago like 4 years09:55
holycownm got it09:55
shylockmustard5, but i should handle it09:55
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voraistos_jason: strange, but i give up for today. i am going for some ennemy-territory killings09:55
_jasonvoraistos: k09:55
_EduArDo_can anybody help me?09:55
mustard5shylock, ok...look in your applications>>Accessories menu for the terminal09:55
shylockmustard5,  just returned to linux world :)09:55
_jason!helpme09:55
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)09:55
voraistosthx yall, cya09:55
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shylockmustard5, have it09:55
_EduArDo_ubotu; i asked!09:55
ubotu_EduArDo_: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:55
eugmanjason , he did.09:55
_EduArDo_ubotu Im using ubunto and I created a file with iptables rules to activate my firewall and now i want the system to inicialize it automatically. what should i do? where should i put it?09:55
ubotu_EduArDo_: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about09:55
mustard5shylock, ok..now type   sudo apt-get install gparted09:56
eugmanobotu is a robot09:56
AlinuxSOSkwtm, ok09:56
_jason``can anybody help me'' is not really productive09:56
_EduArDo_hehe09:56
_EduArDo_ok09:56
shylockmustard5,  it says i allready have it09:56
_EduArDo_first time here and with ubuntu09:56
_jason_EduArDo_: but I did miss your question, let me scroll up :P09:56
mustard5shylock, ok..look for it in your Applications>>System Tools menu09:56
M3ATW0Danyone know how to fix keyboard issues with gdm09:56
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mustard5shylock, I should advise that you backup your important data beforehand too :)09:57
M3ATW0Di have sunray server installed and the keyboards on the rays AND the server have issues09:57
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mustard5shylock, I don't quite know how you are going to do that though at this point :D09:57
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skeffis there an alternative to Movie Maker in linux?  I'm specifically looking for a program to just create a movie from movies and still pictures, a presentation actually.09:57
_jason_EduArDo_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IptablesHowTo?highlight=%28iptables%2909:58
doubletwistskeff Kino might work for ya09:58
_EduArDo__jason: thanks!09:58
jeff303shylock, sorry I missed your issue earlier, are you trying to get data off an NTFS drive?09:58
M3ATW0Di always get 'authentication failed' like the keyborads are always hitting enter09:58
imc_So I am having trouble because a new user I added can access network manager but not the keyring-protected file with all the AP passwords. I'm being prompted not for the keyring password but the AP password.  I edited /etc/dbus-1/system.d/nm-applet.conf and added a policy to allow user foo to use keyring, copied the default.keyring to that from user bar. When user bar logs in he's challenged for the keyring passsword; when user foo logs in09:58
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skeffdoubletwist, I just opened it and it seems I can't load still pictures?09:58
M3ATW0Dand enter and the num/scroll/caps lock are all that responds09:58
doubletwistskeff or it might now. I just use it to pull the video off my miniDV camera09:58
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mustard5jeff303, his XP install is fubared and he wants to install ubuntu to acccess the ntfs drive to play music09:58
mustard5jeff303, he's got a dll error when booting XP atm09:59
doubletwistskeff Or there's cinelerra09:59
jeff303shylock, I've had good results getting files off my hosed ntfs partition using samba (Windows wasn't able to see the data)09:59
doubletwistskeff but it's not a simple program :)09:59
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ubuntuI get e2fsck: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hda309:59
ubuntuCould this be a zero-length partition? Any help?09:59
yetiknoppix works good for reading NTFS disk09:59
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skeffdoubletwist, yeah I've seen cinelerra and it's not for me ;) But thanks for the help tho09:59
green_earz _EduArDo_: have a look at the man interfaces   doc and you use of the " post-up " and the " post-down " command. you can start the script from the /etc/network/interfaces  file10:00
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doubletwistskeff I think that's one of the type of things that keep Linux from taking off on the desktop. We need software like iMovie, and Picassa/iPhoto and such.10:00
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tattersIt weird , I used windows for 12 yrs and decided to try Linux , now it seems I tend to use CLI more than GUI yet Linux is moving towards GUI s now it seems I have gone into reverse and soon I will be using a Abacus10:00
doubletwisthaha10:01
mustard5heheh10:01
chmod775is it ok to upgrade to drapper10:01
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chmod775?10:01
lukaswayne9How can I suspend/hibernate through the command-line on a dapper system?10:01
_jasontatters: lol10:01
jeff303tatters, have you tried abacus with auto-beads?  it rocks  ;-)10:01
ubuntuHello i have some problems with my ext3 partition any help? please :)10:01
mustard5chmod775, thats a very subjective question10:01
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baconbaconwith your nick you should be all right10:01
jeff303ubuntu, don't ask to ask, just ask10:01
pudlandhello, im running 5.10... its telling me i can upgrade headers, linux image, and a bunch of xorg stuff.. 72 updates to be exact...  why so many all of a sudden10:01
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_jasonchmod775: it's ok if you don't mind it failing10:02
jeff303pudland, did you just switch your repositories?10:02
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pudlandno10:02
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jeff303pudland, or it could be the x11 security fix10:02
chmod775what I mean to say is, has anyone faced problems with it10:02
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jeff303pudland, there was a recently discovered x11 security flaw that was fixed quickly10:02
chmod775after upgrading from breezy to drapper10:02
pudlandjeff303, havnt changed anything in months10:02
baconbaconpudland: xorg and kernel, many security fixes lately10:02
jeff303pudland, I had the same thing happen here10:02
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_jasonchmod775: #ubuntu+1 is made just for dapper talk10:02
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jeff303pudland, basically all the x packages10:02
kwtmchmod775: Dapper appears to be stable and usable.  I am currently using it.  However, some unofficial packages for Breezy are not yet available for Dapper.10:02
mustard5chmod775, yes, people have had issues with a dist-upgrade :)10:02
pudlandjeff303, yeah10:02
skeffdoubletwist, actually Picasa is coming to linux :) Google is working, using WINE or something, to create a standalone running Picasa Linux10:02
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pudlandjeff303, did you update then?10:02
doubletwistskeff Schweet10:02
tattersell gunna get meself a 64 bead abacus for sure  hopefully it supports auto beading10:03
jeff303pudland, yeah everything is fine10:03
chmod775ok10:03
jeff303pudland, it's a really minor fix if you google for what the flaw was10:03
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pudlandjeff303, kk, thanks much.. baconbacon10:03
jeff303pudland, I should say, very subtle (not minor)  ;)10:03
baconbacondoubletwist: indeed, I heard Google is working on a picasa built w/ winelib10:03
skeffdoubletwist, anyway, it almost works well in Codeweavers Crossover Office10:03
chmod775how much MB download is it to upgrade from breezy ?10:03
doubletwisttatters Make sure it's an upgradeable abacus!10:03
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jpbotelhochmod775, 664MB10:03
pudlandjeff303, haha, ok thanks.  it just worried me that they popped up all of a sudden10:03
tattersand hyper beading techcnology10:03
jpbotelhoi do it now10:03
chmod775ok10:03
kwtmchmod775: I used Krusader 1.70, although only 1.60 was available from the official repositories for Breezy and Dapper.  If you didn't need to install anything from unofficial repositories (ie. anything other than universe and multiverse and the usual), then it should be okay.10:03
pudlandjeff303, and so many\10:04
baconbaconjpbotelho: that much?10:04
jacobnixim tryying to DHCP/TFTP server installation10:04
jeff303pudland, yeah, but it's somewhat comforting they fixed it so quick10:04
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chmod775Krusader ?10:04
jacobnixto install Ubuntu from net10:04
baconbaconis that the iso or the upgrade10:04
chmod775what's that?10:04
canard_Hello, when you download a source file, where should you put it before to unpack and compile it?10:04
jpbotelho1109 pacotes atualizados, 188 pacotes novos instalados, 61 a serem removidos e 2 no atualizados.10:04
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jacobnixbut i have a problem10:04
jacobnix?10:04
jpbotelho  preciso fazer o download de 664MB de arquivos10:04
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_jason!pt10:04
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.10:04
baconbaconok10:04
tatterstill string and knot technology got less bugs10:04
jpbotelho1109 pkgs, 664MB upgrade to dapper10:04
jacobnixi am follow this manual https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/QuickNetboot10:04
jpbotelhofrom brezzy10:04
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imc_Please any keyring help?10:05
chmod775!krusader10:05
ubotuchmod775: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:05
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masuraHello everyone.10:05
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baconbaconchmod775, jpbotelho: well or course that depends on your already installed packages10:05
baconbaconof course10:05
warrengi just booted the live cd.. but i can't find the "ar" utility (to extract .deb's)10:05
kwtm_jason, the guy was just posting what his computer said about getting 644MB archives.10:05
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baconbaconchmod775, jpbotelho: mine was 430 mb10:05
_jasonkwtm: ok?10:05
chmod775 the guy was just posting what his computer said about getting 644MB archives huh ?10:06
tattersIMs are strangeI have outlook yet anything I enter I remeber anyway10:06
kbrooks!tell imc_ about ask10:06
kwtmchmod775: what do you want to know about Krusader that you're asking U-bot-u?  You don't need it to upgrade to Dapper.10:06
mustard5imc_, what issues are you having with your keyring?10:06
tattersPIMS^10:06
chmod775ok10:06
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chmod775Krusader ?10:06
imc_I created a new user and he seems unable to access things locked by the keyring - like nm-applet's passwords to the APs10:06
warrenghow can i figure out what package "ar" Is in?10:07
chmod775I want to know what's that ?10:07
canard_Hello, when you download a source file, where should you put it before to unpack and compile it?10:07
digitaloshI need to get access to the page that teaches me how to use Synaptic Package Manager10:07
imc_Other users, when they log in and try to connect to an ap are challenged for the keyring password, mustard510:07
jeff303warreng, try doing Search from synaptic (name and description)10:07
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imc_this user is challenged for the AP password, not the keyring password10:07
_jasonwarreng: dpkg -S $(which ar)10:07
digitaloshCan someone take a second to help me out?10:07
mustard5imc_, hmmm..sounds a bit beyond my knowledge sorry....someone else may know10:07
warreng_jason: but i don't know the path for ar :-/10:08
imc_oh well thanks for trying10:08
jeff303digitalosh, try opening synaptic and check Help and Quick Introduction10:08
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_jasonwarreng: you don't need it, just type like i did10:08
jeff303digitalosh, should tell you everything you need to know10:08
digitaloshtheres a website that the bot knows... thats where i need to go10:08
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baconbacon/usr/bin/ar10:08
warreng_jason: doesn't work work10:08
kbrooks!synaptic10:08
ubotuit has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto10:08
imc_Other users, when they log in and try to connect to an ap are challenged for the keyring password, mustard510:08
warreng-work10:08
_jasonwarreng: which ar gives you the path10:08
imc_DOH!10:08
warrengh# dpkg -S $(which ar)10:08
warrengdpkg-query: --search needs at least one file name pattern argument10:08
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baconbacon_jason: not if he dooes have it :P10:08
warreng_jason: what path does it give you?10:08
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baconbacondoesnt10:08
warrengbecause i don't have it10:08
warreng:)10:08
_jasonwarreng: it's in binutils10:08
mustard5digitalosh, the link is above ^^10:08
baconbacon/usr/bin/ar10:09
warrengcan you give me the full path?10:09
scifianyone a whiz with blender ?10:09
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warrengthanks10:09
kbrooks!tell digitalosh about synaptic10:09
_jasonwarreng: install build-essential probably, that should pull it in10:09
Janoshey there, i'm running breeze, i have a samsun printer, and i have a paper of size folio on it, but the printer administration front end doesn't have this paper size, is there a way to specify a custom paper size ?10:09
digitaloshthanks a lot10:09
canard_Hello, when you download a source file, where should you put it before to unpack and compile it?10:09
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baconbaconcanard_: depends on some things10:09
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keith_hi10:10
tattersI think your supposed to make a folder somewhere as your playground for compiling etc10:10
keith_i got a problem10:10
kbrookscanard_: depends. for programs, you should put the .tar.gz file in your home directory10:10
keith_when i click on Nvu10:10
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keith_to eun it it says file not found10:10
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kbrookstatters: no, you SHOULD, not you're SUPPOSED to10:10
sfllawCelebrate No Pants Day by going Chicago-style!10:10
canard_Ahh10:10
baconbaconcanard_: if you have to compile it, put it somewhere in home, then install it from there, if you have a directory tree, you put it in /10:10
kbrookstatters: it is not MANDATORY10:10
canard_Thanks10:11
mustard5keith_, you definitely have it installed?10:11
kbrooksbaconbacon: um.10:11
keith_how do i check?10:11
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mustard5keith_, try installing again with apt-get10:11
keith_ok10:11
keith_ill try10:11
kbrooksbaconbacon: theres another way of circumventing the rewquirement of ther usage of the root directory10:11
baconbaconkbrooks, canard_: like frostwire, it has /usr in the archive, i extract it to / to install..10:11
jeff303keith_, try doing "which (whatever)" where (whatever) is the command you're trying to run, that will tell you if it can find it10:11
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kbrooksbaconbacon: you should NOT do that. AT ALL.10:12
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LSZHHello... I'm using Ekiga under Ubuntu... is there also a Windows client available that supports Ekiga?10:12
baconbaconuhh why10:12
warrengar!!!! (you were right, it was in binutils)10:12
keith_keith@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get Nvu10:12
keith_Password:10:12
keith_E: Invalid operation Nvu10:12
keith_thats what it said10:12
baconbaconapt-get install nvu10:12
_jasonkeith_: apt-get install10:12
mustard5keith_, sudo apt-get install nvu10:12
kbrooksbaconbacon: instead, you should create a ~/.local directory, and extract the tarball to that directory10:12
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baconbaconyes but then other users wouldnt have it10:13
keith_ok its working10:13
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kbrooksbaconbacon: eh? multiple users on a ubuntu system?10:13
baconbaconkbrooks: i understand the point,10:13
jeff303baconbacon, why not just put it in /opt10:14
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nickrudspeaking of multiple users on one ubuntu machine, is anyone knowledgeable about acl's under linux?10:14
acusterHey all, does anyone know the status of sound support for Ubuntu? Looks like four months ago things were often broken. Is there a known/general difficulty with sound recording?10:14
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keith_Setting up nvu (1.0-0ubuntu3) ...10:14
keith_am i good now?10:14
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canard_baconbacon; What do you mean by a directory tree?10:15
kbrookskeith_: it finishes when you are returned to the shell prompt10:15
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keith_ok it did10:15
starmanhi to all10:15
starmanis there a channel for amd64?10:15
keith_ok  i got one more problem10:15
kbrookskeith_: type "nvu".10:15
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keith_when i restart my computer10:15
kbrooksstarman: ?10:15
starmanyes10:15
keith_sometimes it freezes with a blank screen10:15
keith_and doesnt go to the login ubuntu screen10:15
baconbaconthe archive for frostwire has only a usr directory, with subdirs like local/share ...10:16
starmanI am not getting compiz to work10:16
keith_i had to logg in as root to get on10:16
starmanin debian 6410:16
kbrooksstarman: maybe here. don't ask to ask.10:16
tattersI got a 64 bit processor with only 32 bit instruction set10:16
jeff303keith_, at what point does this happen?  after all the plain text output has elapsed?10:16
starmansorry ubuntu 64 :D10:16
keith_but now it worked10:16
keith_yes10:16
keith_and i see the little clock10:16
baconbaconcanard_:  but they're right, extract it to ~/.local when you got that10:16
keith_it freezes with the little clock i the centter of the screen10:16
kwtmjeff303: looks like keith is getting the text logins (Ctrl-Alt-Fn) but not the X server10:16
starmantatters, how can you have a 64bit processor with a 32 instruction set10:17
jeff303keith_, I had the same thing happen on my machine, but my hard drive was going bad, it happened nondeterministically10:17
kbrooksjeff303: meaning what?10:17
keith_what should i do if it happens again10:17
jeff303kbrooks, meaning, sometimes Gnome would never come up, sometimes it would10:17
tattersits a semperon 3100 64 bit processor but only got the 32 bit instruction set so it cheap :)10:17
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baconbaconuhhh10:17
baconbaconpentiums are intern 64 bits ext 32 right10:18
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tattersruns good though V overclockable10:18
starmantatters, then that is fraud10:18
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cirohi all10:18
jeff303tatters, does it have 32 or 64 bit registers?10:18
hastesaver2acuster, I have no problems with sound, either playback (mplayer, etc) or recording (audacity)10:18
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juanhola10:18
keith_also whats the command to get the opera web browser10:18
ciromy ubuntu doesnt mount my cdrom automatically.im forced to mount it manually goin in compute/cdrom/mount10:19
_EduArDo_I want to execute a command that i created everytime the system begins.. what i have to do?10:19
keith_apt-get install opera10:19
baconbaconhola? #ubuntu-es10:19
acusteryeah, the question is if people often *do* have problems these days.10:19
jendaHmm, what can I do to restore screen res after a program fails to do so at exit? (tuxtype in this case)10:19
starmanif it only has a 64bit instruction set how much worthed is 64bit general purpose registers?10:19
cirowho can help me to configure ubuntu so taht can mount cdrom automatically?10:19
starmansorry 32bit :D10:19
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jeff303starman, true, true10:19
_jason_EduArDo_: do you want it just when you login or actually when you boot?10:19
starmansounds like a big BS10:19
_EduArDo__jason: when boot10:19
tattershmm judge ye not befr google10:20
_jason_EduArDo_: you could stick it at the bottom of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh10:20
starmanhowever how many software is really programmed to use 64bit instruction set?10:20
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tattersits got 64 bit architecture10:20
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tatterspins10:20
_EduArDo_i ll try _jason.. tkz10:20
jeff303starman, not too many... programs have to be compiled to use it10:20
tattersbut only 32 itinstruction set10:20
baconbaconstarman: those which are compiled for it10:20
FurryNemesishello10:21
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_EduArDo__jason: should i put the command on the first line?10:21
keith_Could not parse file '/usr/share/applications/linpopup.desktop': desktop entry does not start with legal start group10:21
starmanI mean if you compile a program in a 64bit compiler does it actually use the whole 64bit or only the first 32bits10:21
_jason_EduArDo_: put it on the bottom before exit10:21
keith_it said that when i tried to install opera10:21
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keith_how do i fix it10:21
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n00blarIs there an application like karamba that can run in ubuntu or wil karamba run in ubuntu?10:22
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jeff303keith_, are you trying to install from the package?10:22
keith_yes10:22
FurryNemesisdoes anyone know of a terminal command that'll clean up unnecessary files? (like disc cleanup in WinXP) ?10:22
starmananyone has successfully installed compiz in amd64 with nvidia?10:22
gnomefreakFurryNemesis: sudo apt-get autoclean10:22
keith_from the terminal10:22
keith_apt-get install opera10:22
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starmanonly time I have really had the chance to see that working 100% is with kororaa 32bit10:22
WildZeckFurryNemesis, lol non unescessarry file in linux10:22
WildZeckjuste unistall with the --purge option10:23
gnomefreakFurryNemesis: the files that scroll by are being deleted10:23
starmannot very stable though10:23
carmenhola10:23
starmanhola carmen10:23
keith_how do i install from the package?10:23
jeff303FurryNemesis, most temp files are places in /tmp, which is a tempfs and is cleared after each reboot10:23
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carmenhola stsarman10:23
FurryNemesisi figured.... but I copypasted something like that the other day and figured that it did something similar....my system went like a rocket afterwards10:23
FurryNemesisanyway tyvm10:23
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keith_i allready ahhve it on my computer10:23
WildZeckkeith_, sudo dpkg -i mypack.deb10:23
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starmanok one easy question10:23
keith_it just doesnt work10:23
starmanI dont recall howto set the video boot parameter in grub10:24
gnomefreakkeith_: breezy or dapper?10:24
baconbaconTemp files are managed better in Linux in general10:24
keith_breezy10:24
WildZeckkeith_, witch error10:24
keith_Could not parse file '/usr/share/applications/linpopup.desktop': desktop entry does not start with legal start group10:24
baconbaconFurryNemesis: What kind of "temp files" it erased?10:24
gnomefreakkeith_: did you get the deb from opera?10:24
starmanI have tried video=vesa:mtrr,ywrap,1280x1024-24@60 but didnt work, it ignored it directly10:24
carmenhola un chico solo10:24
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gnomefreakcarmen: join #ubuntu-es for spanish10:24
keith_i have the package icon10:24
starmancarmen usuaria de ubuntu eh?10:24
WildZeckkeith_, package broken10:25
WildZecktry another one10:25
keith_when i click it it says error10:25
carmensi10:25
starmanel pabo es tragabrocas10:25
gnomefreakstarman: english in here10:25
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khaladanwhere can i get info on how to 'properly' install sun's java 1.5 JDK10:25
starmanoh sorry, I forgot10:25
kbrooksis there a disk cleanup tool in ubuntu?10:25
baconbacon!java10:25
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:25
WildZeckkhaladan, juste install it in /var/local/jdk10:25
carmenno hadlo ingles10:25
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keith_it works now WTF10:25
gnomefreakkbrooks: sudo apt-get autoclean10:25
khaladanthanks dawg.10:25
keith_my computer acting shiitty10:25
starmankbrooks, the best thing to clean up is sudo rm -rf /10:26
khaladanWildZeck huhu how about no10:26
kbrooksgnomefreak: other than that.10:26
gnomefreak!es10:26
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:26
kbrooksstarman: hey!10:26
starmanoh sorry, dont do that10:26
kbrooksstarman: i'm not that stupid.10:26
gnomefreakkbrooks: not that i have seen10:26
lekikuiI've just switched to a new monitor and my screen resolution is at 640x480, with no other options shown. Do you know how I change this?10:26
jeff303staaka, umm... sarcasm doesn't translate10:26
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carmenhola10:26
baconbaconkbrooks, gnomefreak: removing all packages after install is not much cleanup10:26
starmandont do sudo dpkg -r --force-all libc6 otherwise you will get my latest system stability10:26
kbrookswherre can i find my temp files cookies etc10:26
WildZeckkhaladan, and add ...../jdk/bin in your path and a variable CLASSPATH with .../jdk/lib10:26
baconbaconi mean... all packages archives10:26
kbrooksbaconbacon: um.10:26
imonkeyhello, from the beginning i had no problems whit my soundcard in ubuntu but just 3 mins ago the sounds was gone even when i reboot i still have no sound anyone here who could tell me what i should look for?10:26
IcemanV9ubotu: tell lekikui about resolution10:27
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kbrooksbaconbacon: autoclean does not remove all packages10:27
canard_Is there any reason why the main release of drapper was delayed?10:27
jeff303kbrooks, look in /tmp10:27
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tatters error this virus requires win 9X or higher in order to function correctly :P10:27
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kbrooksjeff303: No. browser temp files10:27
jpbotelhoimonkey, hw problems??10:27
g0dchildgood gracious....I am stealing bandwidth10:27
starmanwhich are the main differences with a standard debian distribution?10:27
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baconbaconYes they take up space but that wont affect the general speed much i think10:27
g0dchildWhen i use linux, my ISP doesnt seem to know that i am downloading10:27
xophErubotu, where do I download dapper?10:27
ubotuxophEr: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:27
gnomefreakbaconbacon: to delete packages you need to either sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> or dpkg -r package10:27
shylockmustard5, hallo mr, remember me and my partition problems?10:28
jeff303kbrooks, firefox?10:28
jendaWhta can I do when a program has quit without restoring the screen resolution in gnome?10:28
mustard5shylock, yeah10:28
kbrookscanard_: various. touches up for one. enterprise level certification10:28
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baconbacongnomefreak: yes sry i meant package archives10:28
baconbacongnomefreak: Yes they take up space but that wont affect the general speed much i think10:28
shylockmustard5, the comp froze when i launched gparted10:28
kbrookscanard_: (for another)10:28
canard_Ahh10:28
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keith_does ubuntu have 10,000 bugs still?10:28
shylockmustard5, so i rebooted again10:28
gnomefreakbaconbacon: this isnt windows it shouldnt affect speed10:28
kbrookscanard_: millions of reasons10:28
shylockmustard5,  and run it10:28
WildZeckkeith_, nope your package instead10:28
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starmanwell people it has been really nice to talk to you, I may be back later on. I need to get illustrated with all these ubuntu stuff. I am an old debian user :)10:29
keith_o the packages have bugs10:29
canard_kbrooks: I just thought it was rather strange10:29
shylockmustard5,  and tried to resize the ntfs partition, so i set a new size an click apply10:29
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starmanbye bye10:29
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vmadminhello10:29
kbrookscanard_: (millions of ...) is a figure of speech. i was just exaggerating :-)10:29
shylockmustard5, computer thinks for a while and the values change to what i set10:29
keith_how do i get runescape to work?10:29
keith_wll it work with linux?10:29
shylockmustard5,  only to change back a few secs later10:29
canard_kbrooks, I got that :P10:29
vmadminis there a secure minimal x web browser?10:29
kbrookskeith_: ubuntu is not "bug free".10:30
carmenhello eduardo10:30
shylockmustard5, to 8 MB unsused space10:30
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gnomefreakvmadmin: links210:30
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kbrookskeith_: it will always have bugs10:30
keith_k10:30
gnomefreakcarmen: /j #ubuntu-es10:30
tattersIs there such a thing as a universal grapihic card driver , sound card driver etc10:30
baconbaconis links2 for x?10:30
keith_that makes me feel better10:30
shylockmustard5,  could it be a broken disk maybe?10:30
keith_i like bugs10:30
gnomefreakbaconbacon: no its text/gui10:30
jeff303shylock, from  my exp. the graphical partition tools fail silentli if resize cannot be done10:30
keith_lady bugs are my favorite10:30
kbrooksheh keith_10:30
gnomefreakit runs in both modes10:30
lekikuithanks for the link, but I'm using breezy badger.10:30
mustard5shylock, I'm really not sure10:31
shylockjeff303,  u know of anything better?10:31
carmenhello10:31
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jeff303shylock, if the ntfs partition has any bad blocks whatsoever then ntfsresize won't even try10:31
vmadmingnomefreak is that a apt-get install links2 ?10:31
shylockmustard5, too bad, i have to thank u very much any way10:31
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gnomefreakvmadmin: yes10:31
shylockmustard5,  u helped me a lot10:31
imonkeyhello, from the beginning i had no problems whit my soundcard in ubuntu but just 3 mins ago the sounds was gone even when i reboot i still have no sound anyone here who could tell me what i should look for?10:31
jendaI need to restore the screen resolution - can someone please help me? I quit a fullscreen program and it stayed at about 3*5...10:31
baconbacongnomefreak: ooh you right, mouse works in it,10:32
carmenhello10:32
jeff303shylock, it may refuse under some other situations too10:32
shylockjeff303, is htere a way to fix bad blocks?10:32
gnomefreakbaconbacon: links -g will run graphical links10:32
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gnomefreaksomeone who speaks spanish please tell carmen to join #ubuntu-es10:32
baconbaconit's alright for the minimalist, but particularly secure?10:32
jeff303shylock, if it's on ntfs your best bet is to use msft tools like chkdsk10:33
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NoobZaibotHi10:33
NoobZaibotanybody awake for help ?10:33
shylockjeff303,  i ran chkdsk but nothing happened10:33
carmenho no hadlasspanish gomefreak10:33
shylockjeff303,  did u get my win problem?10:33
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coreycarmen, para recibeas ayudar mas efficienado ir a la #ubuntu-es10:33
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jeff303shylock, try launching gparted from a terminal, that may letu see errors10:33
shylockjeff303,  when starting win there is this missing dll, i tried to put it back but when i reboot win it is still not there10:34
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baconbaconcarmen por favor vas a #ubuntu-es (pro spanish-speaker :) )10:34
shylockjeff303,  should i do that with sudo?10:34
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ubuntuhey10:34
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jeff303shylock, yeah sorry try "sudo gparted:10:34
coreyeh im sure he understood m too baconbacon :)10:34
shylockjeff303,  no prob :) still new to ubuntu i am10:34
mathieusadly, the language-specific channels are mostly useless10:35
jeff303shylock, then try the resize and see if it spits output to the term.10:35
ubuntu_I am new here adn where am I at?10:35
ubuntui'm having a problem in booting to ubuntu10:35
vmadmingnomefreak: apt-get cannot find package, is there there a line that needs to go in sources.lst?10:35
jendaI need help - I just quit an application (tuxtype) which runs in fullscreen, but it failed to restore my screen resolution, so I have to scroll around my desktop with my mouse. It's really annoying and I don't want to have to restart X because of it. Does anyone know how to fix this?10:35
gnomefreakubuntu_: this is a support channel for ubuntu10:35
jeff303ubuntu_, somewhere in sol system10:35
gnomefreak!info links210:35
LinuxkingLol, anyone know where I can adjust my windows? Cause I dont want to see my windows when I move it.10:35
kbrooksjenda: xrandr10:35
ubuntu_This Ubuntu thing is very new to me10:35
nickrudjenda, does clt-alt-+ change the res?10:35
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ubotulinks2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre16-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1939 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB10:35
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NoobZaibotHi, anybody can help me ? i need to disable the Graphic Interfase of Ubuntu because it consumes too much CPU and i am running a server10:36
gnomefreakvmadmin: you need universe repo enabled10:36
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jendanickrud: yup - thanks 10:36
kbrooksNoobZaibot: you should have instaled in server mode.10:36
|Sivik|Noob: you need to edit the grub to start into init=3 so its just in text mode10:36
NoobZaiboti dont wanna reinstall the server, there is someway to disable it ?10:36
_jasonLinuxking: applications > system tools > configuration editor, then check the key corresponding to /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources10:37
|Sivik|Noob: yes10:37
nickrudNoobZaibot, the quick & dirty method would be sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm10:37
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NoobZaibotlol10:37
ubuntui've made an update to kernel and now in lilo says: loading... Linux EBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage. so what can i do to fix it? i'm using now a live cd of ubuntu10:37
NoobZaiboti don't wanna delete x)10:37
|Sivik|NoobZaibot: or you can do it my way10:37
NoobZaibotinit=3 ?10:37
LinuxkingLol, anyone know where I can adjust my animations? Cause I dont want to see my windows when I move it.10:37
NoobZaibotthat sounds better10:37
tattersAs Ubuntu progresses is also the minimum sys reuirements also  increasing?10:37
kbrooksNoobZaibot: gdm isnt X10:37
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NoobZaibotwell i have this process running10:37
|Sivik|NoobZaibot: let me look for you an example10:37
kbrooksNoobZaibot: gdm uses X, but it isnt X10:37
nickrudNoobZaibot, that doesn't work, changing the init, & all you're doing with mine is stopping x from starting10:37
shylockjeff303, if i post the output somewhere could u take a look on it?10:37
NoobZaibot/usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xa10:37
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jeff303shylock, yeah try pastebin10:37
jazzanovahi10:37
NoobZaibotthat's the graphic interfase right?10:37
shylock!pastebin10:38
ubotupastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126910:38
nickrudNogimics, yes10:38
kbrooksNoobZaibot: No. GNOME is.10:38
nickrudNoobZaibot, ^^10:38
NoobZaibotok10:38
jazzanovaI am trying to dist-upgrade to breezy, and there is a problem with libofx10:38
kbrooksNoobZaibot: You can kill it to kill te graphical interface10:38
kbrooksNoobZaibot: killall X. Try that10:38
NoobZaibotbut i don't want it to load automatically10:38
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Mattia`hi all10:38
lekikuicould someone guide me through how to modify xorg.conf so i get a decent screen resolution please?10:38
|Sivik|jazzanova: uninsall and reinstall the libofx10:38
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jazzanovathanks.10:38
Mattia`lekikui10:39
|Sivik|jazzanova: what is the issues?10:39
nickrudNoobZaibot, do the line I gave, X (gnome) won't start on your next boot10:39
Mattia`edit conf file in /etc/X1110:39
vmadmingnomefreak: what is the line please?10:39
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lekikuithanks, but I'm not sure what to edit10:39
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shylockjeff303, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1344210:39
mustard5!tell lekikui about fixres10:39
LinuxkingWhere can i adjust my graphics? Cause i dont want to see my windows when i move it.10:39
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Mattia`lekikui10:40
imonkeydont ask me how and why but after this last reboot i got my sound back :S10:40
Mattia`there is a section for your resolution10:40
lekikuiokay10:40
Mattia`like this "800x600"10:40
kbrooksimonkey: mysterious10:40
Mattia`yuo must edit it10:40
lekikuiokay10:40
NoobZaibotlol10:40
imonkeykbrooks: yeah freaky10:40
shylockjeff303, the first half came when i started the program other half when scanning discs after partitioning10:40
nickrudLinuxking, _jason gave you the answer above10:40
NoobZaibotnickrud : the phrase "quick and dirty" scares me10:40
lekikuiit reads "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"10:40
jazzanovaany major improvements in breezy ?10:40
shylockjeff303,  and by partitioning i mean clicking the apply button10:41
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lekikuibut change screen res in preferences only gives me 640x48010:41
Mattia`lekikui10:41
Mattia`now10:41
Linuxkingoh i didnt see it thanx10:41
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Mattia`edit these values10:41
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Mattia`*those10:41
jeff303shylock, interesting, is hdd ntfs?10:41
lekikuito?10:41
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Mattia`y10:41
kbrooksjazzanova: there is even more in dapper (out on june 1)10:41
nickrudNoobZaibot, heh. There are tools for changing things that are set by runlevels, the net result is the same10:41
ubuntuhaving this problem in LILO when choose linux -> Loading.. Linux EBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage10:42
shylockjeff303,  i guess so, there is like a 120GB ntfs partition and 8 MB not used10:42
vmadmingnomefreak like this deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu.universe repo?10:42
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Mintynewbie question : have downloaded skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb  How do i install it ???10:42
_jasonbaconbacon: you enter ### and it crashes?10:42
shylockjeff303, so if hdd refers to the partition it should be10:42
kbrooksMinty: dpkg -i name.deb10:42
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ubuntuhaving this problem in LILO when choose linux -> Loading.. Linux EBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage10:43
nickrudNoobZaibot, a couple of good tools are sysv-init-rc (text) and bum (graphical)10:43
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jeff303shylock, can you send me a screenshot of what gparted looks like when you open it and it has shown you the partitions?10:44
shylockjeff303,  how do i take a scrrenshot in ubuntu?10:44
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jeff303shylock, printscreen button or System menu10:44
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nickrudI'm trying to set up a shared directory, where any file saved to that directory will have a forced group. Does anyone have any pointers?10:44
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lekikuiquit10:45
ubuntuand me no one helps? :(10:45
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jeff303nickrud, what do you mean, "forced group?"10:45
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nickrudjeff303, a user saves a file to that directory, and the group is 'XXX' vs the user's group10:45
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soundrayubuntu, you may have to be patient. Not many people on ubuntu use lilo10:45
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ubuntu__hola a todos como estan10:45
gnomefreak!es10:46
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:46
Mattia`ola ubuntu__10:46
Mattia`speak in english with us pls10:46
ubuntu__como estas10:46
zcat[1] nickrud: set 'sticky bit' on directory10:46
Mattia`todo bien gracias10:46
ubuntu__de donde eres10:46
zcat[1] chmod g+s foo/10:46
Mattia`i'm from italy10:46
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nickrudzcat[1] , thanks, I'll give that a try.10:46
ubuntue eu?10:46
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ubuntudase10:46
jeff303nickrud, just make the group you want, associate that group with the folder, and make sure you're in the group10:46
ubuntu__pero hablas o entiendes el espaol10:46
ubuntuparece k toda a gente passa a minha frente10:47
jeff303nickrud, that should do it, or do you need more specific advice?10:47
richsk guai, quien habla espaol aqui10:47
soundray!es10:47
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:47
Mattia`yo hablo espanol non mucho bien10:47
Mintykbrroks got an error when doing this saying cant get to the file (soory translating from french)10:47
Mattia`:E10:47
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mathieutodo el mundo habla espanol aqui10:47
ubuntu#ubuntu-pt10:47
richsor english10:47
Mattia`nu10:47
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vmadmingnomefreak: could just for no browser and ask all my questions here but i may get a blast10:47
_jason!es10:47
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:47
mathieutan facil10:47
Mattia`i'm italian10:47
nickrudjeff303, I've tried that, I think. I'll try both yours & zcat[1] 's. I had it as a vfat for a long time, which was easy10:47
gnomefreakvmadmin: what?10:47
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Mattia`but i prefer to speak in english10:48
ben-2006hey all10:48
richscool Mattia10:48
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Mattia`yes richs10:48
richswhere you from?10:48
Mattia`:E10:48
ubuntu__that ok10:48
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Mattia`i'm from italy10:48
gnomefreakthis is an english channel lets keep it to english10:48
ubuntuhaving this problem in LILO when choose linux -> Loading.. Linux EBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage10:48
Mattia`and you?10:48
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richsBarcelona10:48
Mattia`:)10:48
richsSpain10:48
shylockjeff303, here we go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i1344410:48
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Mattia`como estats holmes?10:48
Mattia`lol10:48
Mattia`:E10:48
jeff303shylock, ooh you're running off livecd?10:49
Mattia`I love eddie guerrero10:49
Mattia`:K10:49
shylockjeff303,  w8 it seems to have been smaller10:49
Mattia`:D10:49
shylockjeff303,  yeah10:49
richsno podemos hablar espaol aqui.....dicen10:49
Mattia`viva la raza para siempre10:49
vmadmingnomefreak:  like this deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu.universe repo?10:49
shylockjeff303, i mean rezised10:49
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Mattia`and so10:49
richsanyway10:49
gnomefreakenglish10:49
kbrooksOK10:49
shylockjeff303,  can u see?10:49
Mattia`we talk in english10:49
Mattia`no problem10:49
Mattia`:E10:49
gnomefreakunop10:49
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Mattia`anyway what?10:49
richsThis is my first time on iRC10:49
richslooks cool10:49
gnomefreakvmadmin: yes10:49
nickrudzcat[1] , thanks much. Exactly what I wanted10:49
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Mattia`richs10:50
Mattia`I have an IRC network10:50
Mattia`:)10:50
gnomefreakubotu tell vmadmin about universe10:50
richsyeah10:50
Mattia`irc is the best protocolo for to chat today10:50
Mattia`:)10:50
Mattia`*protocol10:50
kbrooksummm.10:50
richsI have just come from a German channel10:50
Mattia`oooo10:50
Mintyto install a file from tmp folder do I have to tell the terminal that the file is there or 'place' the termimal in the tmp folder10:50
richsnot much luck there10:50
Mattia`i hate german channel10:50
Mattia`:D10:50
NV_The_Riperje suis en train d'installer les pilotes ati10:50
richseverything is in english though10:51
NV_The_Ripermais je c pa koi mettre dans les configureation10:51
gnomefreakummm move to #ubuntu-offtopic for non support issues10:51
Mattia`yeap10:51
kbrooksI'd like to start a umbrella project for SMALL applications :P10:51
gnomefreakNV_The_Riper: english in here10:51
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vmadmingnomefreak; thanks but i cannot see what the bot said because i do not have a browser10:51
jeff303shylock, yeah, not sure why it is complaining about hdd10:51
richsMattia what OS you got?10:51
gnomefreakvmadmin: w3m is installed by default10:51
shylockjeff303, isnt hdd the physical disc and hda the partition?10:51
Mattia`i've got Winshit Xp and Ubuntu The Dapper Drake10:51
Mattia`:K10:51
richsDistro, Linux10:52
Flannelshylock: no, hdX where X is a letter, is a disk, then the numbers (hda1 hda5, etc) are different partitions.10:52
ENE|ToxicHow do I scan/detect wireless accesspoints ?10:52
Mattia`but now i want to install mac os x Darkwin developed with unix10:52
Mattia`richs i love ubuntu10:52
Mattia`:)10:52
jeff303shylock, hmm it may not be possible to resize ntfs partitions from the software on the livecd10:52
fbhi, every firefox extenssion install failed with a wrong version. (i'm 1.0.8). i know about the version naming scheme of ubuntu vs firefox and have tried the about:info tips. any other link ?10:52
gnomefreak!offtopic10:52
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!10:52
richsOk Ok ubotu10:52
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Mattia`and you?10:53
Cliffb53hi everyone10:53
shylockjeff303, thing is i get the same problem when i try to use the installation partitioner10:53
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richsjust tryin to get familiar10:53
Mattia`lol10:53
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richsOk Ubuntu problem10:53
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gnomefreakrichs: this is a _support_ only channel10:53
mikeo1why when im updating does synopic want to install xserver-xorg-driver-nv?10:53
jeff303shylock, yeah, they're both most likely invoking ntfsresize10:53
Mattia`what's yuor problem man?10:53
mikeo1though nv was the shitty driver10:53
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gnomefreakMattia`: me?10:53
jeff303shylock, try to see if you even have ntfsresize (try to invoke it)10:53
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ENE|ToxicHow do I scan/detect wireless accesspoints ? I need to know which accesspoints are available before I can connect to them.10:53
richsI can't find the shortcut (desktop) to open the console10:53
Mattia`no10:53
richsjust installed ubuntu server10:54
Xenguy!tell richs about terminal10:54
gnomefreakrichs: applications>accesories>termianl10:54
Mattia`i'm talking with RichiH10:54
nickrudmikeo1, it's only replacing the already existing nv driver, it's not going to change the driver you've selected for X10:54
Mattia`azz10:54
richsand added enlightenment10:54
Mattia`*richs10:54
Moon_Whi guys may i ask a question about ubuntu ?10:54
vmadmingnomefreak: yes it is thankyou10:54
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shylockjeff303, i have it10:54
imonkeyfor school i need to type papers in .doc is there a package for ubuntu that can eddit/write a .doc?10:54
gnomefreakMoon_W: yes shoot10:54
soundray!ask10:54
Flannelimonkey: yeah, open office.10:54
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.10:54
Mattia`imonkey10:54
Mattia`anyway10:54
richsimonkey?10:54
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Mattia`yuo can rename yuour file in .doc10:55
Mattia`:)10:55
jeff303shylock, try to do "ntfsresize -if /dev/hda1"10:55
Mattia`*you10:55
shylockjeff303, should i try to run it verbose?10:55
richswow these messages scroll fast10:55
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vmadminnickrud:  a jaw in the hand is woth two in the bush10:55
gnomefreak!enter10:55
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.10:55
Flannelshylock: defrag your ntfs first though.10:55
imonkeyMattia`: won't that give any problems?10:55
nickrudvmadmin, I have a new respect for mandibles10:55
RichiHMattia`: no, you are not ;)10:55
Moon_Wthanx.i have a intel wifi card on my laptop..is ubuntu support that?10:55
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jeff303shylock, don't worry that won't write to the disk at all10:55
Mattia`mmm10:55
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Mattia`yes why not10:55
Mattia`use openoffice :K10:56
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richsok, can anyone help me open the Console?10:56
imonkeyFlannel: do you know how i should save the file in open office?10:56
Mattia`richs10:56
Mattia`the console10:56
Mattia`is10:56
soundray!enter10:56
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.10:56
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Mattia`on the menu bar10:56
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nickrudrichs, applications->accessories->terminal, or alt-ctl-F110:56
Flannelimonkey: you can same it as a doc...10:56
Mattia`in accessories section10:56
shylockFlannel, how do i do that?10:56
teletubbieRichiH, application -> accesories -> gnome-term,inal10:56
XenguyMattia`: do you *want* to get kicked?10:56
gnomefreakar Mattia`10:56
Mattia`?10:56
Mattia`azz10:56
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Flannelshylock: boot to windows and defrag10:56
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Moon_Wactually i have intel pro wireless 2200 bg card,need i install any drivers?10:56
jeff303Flannel, he can't10:56
ENE|ToxicHow do I scan/detect wireless accesspoints ?10:56
lanfeustrichs: what do u want to know about the console?10:56
Flannelah.  well, nevermind then.10:56
vmadminnickrud: you have my permission to unlock yourself from your your desk and get on the Desktop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!10:57
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Mattia`?10:57
Mattia`O_O10:57
yggdrasilwhats a good monitor to check wwich processes are using ram ?10:57
_jasonyggdrasil: top10:57
yggdrasilor how much rame processes are using?....10:57
Mattia`gnomefreak?10:57
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richslanfeust10:57
Xenguy!ignore10:57
ubotuXenguy: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:57
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gnomefreakMattia`: the rules obey the rules10:57
teletubbiemooky, I dunno, but you can dl the livecd and see if it works out of the box10:57
nickrud!tell Mattia` about enter10:57
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jeff303yggdrasil, GUI: System Monitor, terminal "top"10:57
richsi can't open the console with a keyboard shortcut10:57
gnomefreakyou have been warned for the last 15 mins10:57
Mattia`ok ok ok10:57
teletubbieI recommend Dapper beta 2. I had few issue with breezy detecting my card10:57
Mattia`sorry10:57
pat2manENE|Toxic: are you using breezy or dapper?10:57
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nickrudvmadmin, I'm not locked today, I came for help, & got sucked in again :)10:58
ENE|Toxicpat2man: breezy10:58
shylockjeff303,  seems fine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1344710:58
lanfeustrichs: don't know how to do that10:58
soundrayrichs: do you want a terminal window or a text console?10:58
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yggdrasilahh frickin gaim was cloging up all my ram10:58
richstext  console Bash10:58
yggdrasilthansk guys10:58
soundrayrichs: Ctrl-Alt-F110:58
yggdrasili usualy use top justs wasnt sure about gui10:58
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teletubbieto go back to yuor desktop, use alt+ctrl+f710:58
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jeff303shylock, ok the deal is, I *thought* gparted was supposed to do the resize operation as one atomic step (resize filesystem and partition), but really it is two different steps10:59
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jeff303shylock, so you can try doing both separately but I have never tried it and can't guarantee it won't fubar everything10:59
jeff303shylock, check out this page:   http://nishants.net/articles/ntfsresize.htm10:59
pat2manENE|Toxic: there are a few ways, network-manager which is in the universe section works well some of the time10:59
shylockjeff303, interesting i am pretty much ready to take any risk10:59
vmadminnickrud; all the same you seem to enjoy or endure every minute of it10:59
jeff303shylock, you should be able to do the "ntfsresize" part first, then resize the partition10:59
Moon_Wwell you say ubuntu support my Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG wifi card guys??11:00
richscntrol F1 takes me to console yes11:00
ENE|Toxicpat2man: Sounds neat, are there any console based tools you know of ?11:00
nickrudvmadmin, enjoy. I choose that def :)11:00
jeff303shylock, (if you follow the website you should be able to start at #8)11:00
richsI want to open a window11:00
richsfor using Bash11:00
pat2manENE|Toxic: you can do a lot with iwconfig11:00
ENE|ToxicMoon_W: yes11:00
gnomefreakrichs: go to applications>accesories>terminal right click it and click add to panel11:00
nickrudrichs, then from the top menu bar, applications->accessories->terminal11:00
shylockjeff303, u think i should try to use recovery console on windows cd to defrag?11:00
Xenguy!tell richs about terminal11:00
Moon_Wthanx guys see you soon..11:01
richssorry, yes11:01
shylockjeff303, dont know if defrag is even on it11:01
richslike xterm11:01
jeff303shylock, are you even able to defrag outside of the Windows GUI?  (I thought not)11:01
pat2manENE|Toxic: ant the other iw* tools11:01
ENE|Toxicpat2man: I've tried the manuals, but I only found options for settings essid's, not scanning for them.11:01
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vmadminnickrud: learning to use w3m kind of funny11:01
shylockjeff303, no clue just guessing11:01
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soundrayENE|Toxic: iwlist is what you need11:01
shylockjeff303, u are probably right11:01
gnomefreakvmadmin: its fun the more you use it ;)11:01
jeff303shylock, AFAIK that is not possible11:01
richsinstead of clicking the menu icon11:01
ENE|Toxicpat2man: It probably is. I wonder why I forgot to search that one. Ok, thanks anyway :)11:02
jeff303shylock, have you tried to mount the volume in Ubuntu?11:02
richstrying to learn keyboard shortcuts11:02
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delcoyotewenas11:02
shylockjeff303, yeah seemed to be working fine11:02
shylockjeff303, didnt try to read any file though11:02
pat2manENE|Toxic: yeah like soundray said, iwlist is probably what you want11:02
nickrudvmadmin, w3m, mc & mutt: learn those, & you'll have it licked11:02
gravesonwhat can i use to convert video files(avi and rm) to ipod video format .any guides available11:02
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soundrayrichs: Alt-F2, enter "gnome-terminal", or create one in System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts11:02
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gnomefreakrichs: you have to set the keybindings to do that (not sure how well it works)11:02
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pat2manENE|Toxic: but there are more powerful tools out there, just google them11:02
jeff303shylock, ok then if you have any really important files, I reccomend trying to mount the drive, copy them to /tmp or wherever, and put them somewhere safe (probably online temporarily)11:02
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jeff303shylock, then proceed with ntfsresize and see if it works11:03
richsok ok like installing keybinder11:03
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ENE|Toxicpat2man: Yeah, I'll give google a chance when I'm able to connect in the first place, haha :)11:03
shylockjeff303, ok, i come back to u whatever happens11:03
soundrayrichs: you really need to read the messages you get.11:03
shylockjeff303, thanks for all your help so far11:03
soundrayrichs: System-Prefs-KeybShortcuts11:03
richsi apt-got keybinder and it messed up my keyboard11:03
shylockjeff303, really nice community here at ubuntu irc11:03
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Mintynewbie question , sorry ahave now got the .deb file to a .tar.bz2 file how do i install it ?11:04
vmadmingnomefreak; ok i have got some xt in the search box of google  and the next thing to do is?11:04
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richssoundray11:04
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nickrudrichs, Alt-F2 then type gconf-editor. Then you navigate to apps/metacity. You're goning to edit two panels in there: global keybindings, & kebinding_commands11:04
richsi,m not using a kdesktop11:04
richsi,ve got enlightenment11:04
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jeff303Minty, what are you trying to install?11:04
richsand iceWM11:04
Mintyskype11:04
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shylockjeff303,  just one more question, do u know where i can read more about the partitioning part11:04
soundrayrichs: try #e17 then11:04
nickrudand ignore me, richs I don't use either11:04
richsnickrud11:05
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shylockjeff303,  never used any of the programs recommended11:05
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Cliffb53hi everyone11:05
soundrayMinty: much better to use easyubuntu for installing skype11:05
richsi did that it says that directory doesn't exist11:05
soundray!easyubuntu11:05
Mintywhat is easyubuntu ?11:05
kbrooks!EASYUBUNTU11:05
soundray!tell Minty about easyubuntu11:06
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kbrooksubotu: tell minty about easyubuntu11:06
Flannel!easyubuntu11:06
jeff303shylock, here this page seems to have more info about that part:  http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html11:06
jeff303shylock, go to "How to use ntfsresize from the command line?"11:06
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ZarephathHey all...I was changing some file permissions for some PDF's that I sent home from work off of a W2000 OS...I noticed there was an option below uid gid called "sticky" can someone point me to information on this permission setting? Or explain it?11:06
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richsok guys, thanks for the help, i'll try #e1711:06
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Cliffb53I'm setting up Ubuntu for dual-screen and I already have it working. yet, there's something I'm finding awfully annoying that is the fact that when I open a new window for some application, it starts on the most difficult monitor to use (i'm on a laptop and the external monitor is at my left)11:06
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Cliffb53I was wondering if it is possible to setup a main screen so that applications always start in the main screen11:07
NoUseCliffb53 http://www.faqs.org/faqs/hp/hpux-faq/section-70.html11:07
Cliffb53is this possible?11:07
kbrooksMinty: you may type /join #easyubuntu if you want to chat about it11:07
nickrudZarephath, I was just pointed at this by someone, setting the sticky bit on the group for a directory forces any file in that dir to have the same group as the parent directory11:07
high-freqcan someone help me gain a dhcp addy from this wireless card....i have upgraded to dapper drake beta...and it detects the card...i see it in iwconfig  and well its not gettin an ip from the wireless router which is fully open...11:08
unenso did the new version come out today?11:08
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Zarephathnickrud: Kewl thanks...11:08
high-freqanyone experienced in wireless11:08
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NoUseunen were you expecting it to?11:08
Mitsurugiwhen can we order the new  cds?11:08
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nickrudZarephath, reading what I just typed, I should modify that to any file *saved* to that dir after the sticky bit has been set11:08
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pat2mandoes anyone know how the gnome menu decides weather or not to include the *-admin tools? does a user have to be in the admin group?11:08
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gnomefreakpat2man: what tools?11:09
NoUseMitsurugi shipit.ubuntu.com says around mid-may11:09
Mintyokay have a easy ubuntu window on screen11:09
pat2mannetwork-admin, users-admin etc11:09
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nickrudpat2man, dapper is supposed to work that way from what I've read11:09
Mintyshould I tick everthing ?11:09
soundrayMinty: last tab, select skype, don't select anything else for now.11:09
meisterwinterhi11:09
flodinehelp please can i use a linux.zip icon file on ubuntu?11:10
Zarephathnickrud: Gotcha...thanks again11:10
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kbrooksMinty: #easyubuntu11:10
kbrooksMinty: being offtopic11:10
Mintylast tab 'system' no sype11:10
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Zarephathflodine: If you mean can you unzip it then the answer is yes11:10
soundrayMinty: are you on amd64?11:10
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kbrooksMinty: look in all the tabs. skype isnt for the system11:10
pat2mangnomefreak, nickrud: right, in dapper admins have them and normal users don't, but for instance I have active directory admins who can sudo but don't get the tools11:10
Mintyyes11:10
meisterwinteri have a problem with  gproftpd11:10
soundrayMinty: was that "yes, soundray"?11:11
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Mintyyes running amd 6411:11
meisterwintercan anyone help me11:11
flodineZarephath well i can uzip it but how do you install it its a icon theme11:11
jeff303!tell meisterwinter about help11:11
kbrooksMinty: uh. then you must use openwengo11:11
gnomefreakmeisterwinter: it might help if we knew what the problem was?11:11
meisterwinter:-)11:11
soundrayMinty: sorry, I have amd64 too, and haven't managed to get Skype to run.11:11
zcat[1] skype is teh suck.. closed, propriatory monopoly of a voip system..11:12
nickrudpat2man, I'm not sure about the mechanism for how ubuntu's modifying the menu for each user; I'd guess it doesn't look at active directory (which I am fundamentally clueless about)11:12
Minty:'11:12
Minty:(11:12
kbrookszcat[1] : dont be a zealot11:12
soundrayzcat[1] : offtopic as you are, you're right11:12
Mintywhats open wengo11:12
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kbrookssoundray: he is being/acting like a zealot11:12
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meisterwinterok, i dont know how do start gproftp, cant find it11:12
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pat2mannickrud: well it doesn't really have to, I can groupmap and add people to the sudoers, I just don't know how the gnome menu decides wether or not to include the utilities11:13
nickrudzealot: defined as someone who doesn't agree with me :)11:13
jujumang11:13
jujumanr11:13
jujumandouble e11:13
jujumann11:13
jujumanleaves!11:13
kbrookssoundray: "free software zealots" -> "qemu > vmware"11:13
gnomefreakubotu tell jujuman about enter11:13
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kbrookssoundray: note thats a example11:13
soundraykbrooks: I know. Stroke his ego a little, and he'll stay as he is. Contradict him, call him a zealot, his ego will grow ;)11:13
vmadminhi11:14
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Mintyam running icechat on winxp what the eqivalent on linux ?11:14
kbrooksMinty: what is icechat?11:14
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FlannelMinty: what's icechat do?11:14
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gnomefreakMinty: xchat is about the closest11:14
Mintysorry what i am using to chat to you irc11:14
kbrooksMinty: xchat.11:14
Mintyk11:14
gnomefreakFlannel: icechat is a eh irc client11:14
LaibschHi, I use cups with XFCE.  I don't have GNOME nor KDE installed.  CUPS at localhost:631 informs me that admin tasks are disabled for security reasons and that I should go to "MEnu System - Administration - Printing"  Where do I find that in XFCE?11:15
meisterwinterkopete, gaim, with other messangers11:15
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meisterwinterwhere can i find gproftp, i have apitude it11:15
gnomefreakLaibsch: are you on breezy?11:15
trevor_minty says hello from linux11:15
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gnomefreakLaibsch: thats a gnome menu order to open cups11:16
livingdaylighthi, how can i know whether my system is 32 or 64 bit?11:16
nickrudzcat[1] , I've one more question: is there a way to force that file saved to the sticky directory to be read/writeable when a user's default umask is read only groups?11:16
gnomefreaklivingdaylight: before you install ubuntu or after?11:16
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Laibschgnomefreak: yes, I believe so.  The latest stable.11:16
livingdaylightgnomefreak?11:16
mo0s1is there a way to write files to an ntfs partition?11:16
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gnomefreaklivingdaylight: have you installed ubuntu yet?11:17
livingdaylightyes11:17
g0dchildgnomefreak, you still here? :P11:17
soundraylivingdaylight: uname -a11:17
livingdaylightis there a way for me to know?11:17
gnomefreaklivingdaylight: your wanting to know what version of kerenl your running?11:17
nickrudmo0s1, there's a thing called captive ntfs; some people swear by it, some swear at ti11:17
Mintyhow do I change my nick11:17
mo0s1hehe.11:17
gnomefreakg0dchild: yep11:17
kbrooksMinty: /nick nick11:17
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gnomefreakMinty: /nick newnick11:17
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soundrayMinty: /nick nack11:18
livingdaylightgnomefreak: i want to know whether my computer supports a 32 or 64 bit11:18
meisterwinternoone knows gproftp?11:18
gnomefreaklivingdaylight: amd processer?11:18
kbrookslivingdaylight: 64bit supports 32 or 64bit ubuntu11:18
kbrookslivingdaylight: 32bit supports 32bit ubuntu11:18
gnomefreakkbrooks: hes wanting to know what level processer11:18
livingdaylightLinux x1-6-00-13-d4-c8-6a-bc 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Sat Mar 11 16:13:17 UTC 2006 i68611:18
mo0sei should get the non-rpm distribution of captive ntfs, right?11:18
lanfeustlivingdaylight: type arch in the terminal11:18
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NoUse!captive11:18
ubotusomebody said captive was a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.11:18
kbrookslivingdaylight: you're using the x86 kernel11:19
mo0se...11:19
mo0sepoop...11:19
emskowhat's the best gnutella client available for ubuntu?11:19
gnomefreaklanfeust: does that give the arch that you are running?11:19
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kbrooksemile: amule11:19
lanfeusty11:19
livingdaylighti686, what does that mean?11:19
mo0se!flash11:19
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:19
ubuntuin the ubuntu i have to mount the unit ntfs ?11:19
scifianyone good with blender here ?11:19
livingdaylightkbrooks: what does x86 kernel mean? is that 64 bit?11:19
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kbrookslivingdaylight: no11:19
Laibschgnomefreak: What can I do?11:19
mo0sewhat type of partitions can ubuntu read and write to?11:19
nickrudemsko, frostwire11:20
gnomefreaklivingdaylight: on you pc somewhere should tell you if its amd 64bit   but your better off running 32bit11:20
kbrookslivingdaylight: x86 == 32bit11:20
meisterwinterhmm11:20
soundraygnomefreak: you don't know that.11:20
NoUsemo0se all linux partions, and FAT3211:20
livingdaylightok, thank you guys11:20
lanfeustlivingdaylight: google it now i68611:20
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kbrooksgnomefreak: er, 64bit pcs and 32bit is compatible11:20
kbrookslanfeust: don't say that11:20
kbrookslanfeust: thats counterproductive11:20
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lanfeustkbrooks:  :P11:21
HellDragonhi, anyone can help me with my ati drivers, since this morning i try to make them work11:21
nickrudlanfeust, doing support, you're expected to google and provide a link11:21
HellDragoni can open ati config now11:21
HellDragonbut theres no direct render etc...11:21
gnomefreakLaibsch: im not sure off hand how to set it up in xfce you might want to try in #xubuntu11:21
HellDragoni get 4 fps at the gear things11:21
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HellDragonim on Dapper11:22
Laibschgnomefreak: Thanks, I will try there11:22
mo0seis there a difference between ntfs and fat32 speed-wise?11:22
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eod_punkhello all11:22
Laibschjoin #xubuntu11:22
gnomefreakmo0se: not really anything you will notice11:22
lanfeustnickrud: yep but me I am working on a ppc and I don't know tha answer to what does that mean i68611:22
meisterwinteri only want you to tell me where i can find gproftp, i have apitude it, but cant find it11:22
mo0seall right. thanks.11:22
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gnomefreaklanfeust: you forgot the /11:22
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soundraygnomefreak: again, you don't know that.11:22
kbrooksmeisterwinter: um11:22
NoUseHellDragon dapper support is in #ubuntu+111:22
Lars_GHi, quick question, I just installed dapper flight 6, is the netselect-apt on the def repos for it setup to pull mirror lists for dapper (flight) and not for hoary/breezy/debian ??11:22
gnomefreaksoundray: what dont i know now?11:22
meisterwinterwhen i know that i can try me the next part11:22
nickrudlanfeust, i686 usually means a kernel or other software compiled to run on a pentium II or better11:23
meisterwinterum?11:23
eod_punkcan you mount a windows partion (for read only) easily?11:23
NoUse!tell Lars_G about dapper11:23
gnomefreaksoundray: you mean with ntfs and fat?11:23
jeff303mo0se: the minimum file size in FAT32 is 16K whereas in NTFS it is 4K, that can add up11:23
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gnomefreakthats one thing i do remember from my windows days11:23
Lars_GNoUse, Arigato godaimasu11:23
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kbrooksLars_G: do not install flight6. upgrade straight to beta2 immediately11:24
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zcat[1] flight6 is OLD!11:24
kbrookshi minty11:24
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soundraygnomefreak: can I pm you?11:24
kbrookszcat[1] : too OLD!11:24
gnomefreakyes11:24
MintyHi back with my Linux machine :)11:24
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meisterwinterhm11:24
kbrooksLOL Minty11:24
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eod_punkcongrats minty11:24
unenah it was the new linux kernel that came out today11:25
jtdcan I get a hand setting up mail on postfix with dovecot?  when I try to send an email to an address on this machine, I get a returned mail error saying <jtd@vela.homeunix.net>: // 70.224.89.152 does not like recipient. // Remote host said: 554 <jtd@vela.homeunix.net>: Relay access denied // Giving up on 70.224.89.152.  I did set up the MX record with my dyndns account.  anyone have an idea what's going on?11:25
Mintywell congats to early as boy is it complicated11:25
lanfeustnickrud: it doesn't explain anything what u said. the original question from livingdaylight was which processor I have?11:25
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eod_punkMinty: I hear you, i'm very new as well11:25
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zcat[1] this laptop was originally flight6, but I've probably applied about 3GB of updates since then..11:25
tompkinshow can i have postfix start when my system starts?  i'm running Ubuntu Server, so i don't have access to the Services applet11:25
emskoMinty, i've been using ubuntu for about a month now11:26
eod_punkMinty: I'm still trying to figure out how to get my wifi card working11:26
jtdtompkins: did you set up postfix already11:26
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jtd?11:26
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Mintyso if I understanf rightly sype and amd64 is not good :(11:26
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jtdif you install postfix via apt, it will always automatically start.11:26
tompkinsjtd, yes11:26
emskotrust me, it gets easier :)11:26
tompkinsjtd, hmm it isn't :)11:26
jtdtompkins: you did sudo apt-get install postfix?11:26
tompkinsjtd, i did11:26
jtdO_o11:26
meisterwinterok, i will visit u later, perhaps it isnt so fully then :-)....But first, ubuntu is an insteressant system, good work!11:27
jtdps aux | grep postfix11:27
squiddletompkins  check the symlink in /etc/rc3.d/11:27
tompkinsjtd, but every time my machine reboots i have to remember to do a "postfix start"11:27
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emskoA big downside to linux is it becomes very irritating whenever you have to use Windows machines11:27
nickrudlanfeust, ah, I missed that. if they're on ubuntu, cat /proc/cpuinfo will tell11:27
kbrookstompkins: /etc/init.d/postfix start11:27
jtddefinitely do what squiddle said11:27
zcat[1] most 'blobs' are only compiled for i386 .. if you run amd64 or ppc, things like winmodems, w32codecs, nvidia drivers and skype won't be available11:27
tompkinsjtd, well it's running, since i ran "postfix start"11:27
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jtdok11:27
tompkinstompkins, how will that help me with making it start at boot11:27
jeff303emsko, yes... especially when you keep trying to do ls in the command prompt11:27
jtdbut if you reboot, postfix doesn't start by itself...11:27
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tompkinskbrooks, , how will that help me with making it start at boot11:27
meisterw|awaycu11:27
tompkinsjtd, right11:27
emskohehe11:27
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squiddletompkins  if it is not there you can create it11:27
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nickrudsquiddle, normal runlevel for ubuntu is /etc/rc2.d (although 3 is identical)11:27
tompkinssquiddle, the symlink is there and doesn't show up as broken11:28
lanfeustnickrud: I also found another CLI command instead of arch > machine11:28
tompkinssquiddle, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 17 Mar  1 00:49 S20postfix -> ../init.d/postfix11:28
jtdcheck rc2.d too, tompkins11:28
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tompkinsjtd, it's the same in rc2.d11:29
squiddletompkins  if it is not running at the moment you can try running the init script in init.d maybe there are some error messages to see11:29
emskoit's really amazing to think that such an elegant and powerful os was created almost completely by amateurs and is absolutely free11:29
tompkinsi'm also having problems with lighttpd not starting on boot - that's also in both rc. directories11:30
nickrudtompkins, there's a pretty good setup for postfix at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix11:30
squiddleemsko  define amateurs11:30
jeff303emsko, I wouldn't call some of those guys amateurs11:30
jtdcan you watch the bootup process?  at some point while it's booting you should be able to watch it try to start postfix11:30
tompkinsnickrud, it's all setup, i just need it to start automatically11:30
tompkinssquiddle, good call, there's an error in the init script11:30
emskowell, i meant "amateur" as opposed to doing it for money11:30
jtdjeff303: you can be an expert amateur.  an amateur is simply someone who doesn't do what they're amateur in for a living11:30
jeff303jtd, I see, never heard that definition before11:31
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n00buntuAmateur: 1. A person who engages in an art, science, study, or athletic activity as a pastime rather than as a profession.11:31
jtdfor example, amateur radio :)11:31
tompkinsjeff303, there need be no negative connotation11:31
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mikeo1how do i change my bttv card settings? it detected it wrong11:31
jtdsome hams are utterly brilliant RF engineers11:31
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nickrud'people who's avocation is ubuntu' might be a better way of saying it11:31
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squiddleah ok, in german amateur has a connotation11:31
Mintyhah now getting my mails (big exploit for me )11:32
jeff303I would argue that in common US English amateur has a negative connotation as well, but now we're getting offtopic  :-)11:32
jtdanyway.  can someone help me interpret these email error messages?11:32
jtdcan I get a hand setting up mail on postfix with dovecot?  when I try to send an email to an address on this machine, I get a returned mail error saying <jtd@vela.homeunix.net>: // 70.224.89.152 does not like recipient. // Remote host said: 554 <jtd@vela.homeunix.net>: Relay access denied // Giving up on 70.224.89.152.  I did set up the MX record with my dyndns account.  anyone have an idea what's going on?11:32
mathieuamateur literally means "the one who loves" -- not as profession11:32
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mathieugnomefreak: nothing better to do, then?11:33
tompkinssquiddle, i get  * Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent... postfix/postfix-script: fatal: usage: postfix start (or stop, reload, abort, flush, check, set-permissions, upgrade-configuration) [fail] 11:33
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eod_punkany give me a clue as why when i do "fdisk -l" it just brings another command prompt and not a list of devices?11:33
tompkinssquiddle, when running /etc/init.d/postfix11:33
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squiddletompkins  /etc/init.d/postfix start11:34
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gnomefreakmathieu: this is a ubuntu support channel not a language toturing session11:34
nickrudjtd, you're trying to send your local mail through your isp, it should be handled locally. There's a file in postfix (which escapes me at the moment) where you override that11:34
gnomefreaktutoring even11:34
tompkinssquiddle, er, that's what i meant to type11:34
Pokerhow could i know if i have Ubuntu breezy or Ubuntu Dapper11:34
Poker?11:34
tompkinssquiddle, i did use the start11:34
HellDragonbrb11:34
gnomefreakPoker: lsb_release -a   type that in terminal11:34
nickrudPoker, lsp_release -a in a terminal11:34
jeff303eod_punk, no error messages?11:34
jtdnickrud: what?  what do you mean?11:34
mathieugnomefreak: as long it's not bothering people who are actually help... or do you just like policing the place?11:35
Pokerand witch is the difference ?11:35
mikeo1where is the kernel source tree in ubuntu dapper amd64?11:35
jeff303eod_punk, did you try sudo?11:35
mathieu+ing11:35
mikeo1in teh filesystem11:35
gnomefreak!offtopic11:35
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!11:35
squiddletompkins  try it with check, maybe postfix can get what is wron with the config (if it is wrong)11:35
tompkinssquiddle, no output11:35
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gnomefreakmathieu: im not here to debate rules with users please see !ircrules and !coc for channel rules11:35
jtdnickrud: that's what happened when I sent an email to my machine from my Yahoo account.11:35
eod_punkjeff303: thanks I always forget the sudo11:36
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jeff303eod_punk, no problem, but I would hope you got an error message without it...11:36
mathieugnomefreak: mind you, the only thing _you_ do is telling ppl this is only about ubuntu in english. so you better go to #ubuntu-offtopic!11:36
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dasenjoHi, I'm using an Intel ICH6 Family sound card. kernel 2.6.12, ths sound module is snd_hda_intel, alsamixer works, but I still cant hear anything ..11:36
eod_punkjeff303: no error message just the next prompt like it executed the command without any output11:37
gnomefreakmathieu: im not gonna argue with you about this you know the rules follow them please11:37
crimsundasenjo: pastebin output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''11:37
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squiddledasenjo  have you unmuted the channels?11:37
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dasenjoxmms and rythmbox seems playing .. no error but no sound11:37
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mathieugnomefreak: you know i'm not arguing the rules. i argue the enforcement of them11:38
hunter85hi people!11:38
deushow can i reconfigure my language and locale, ever since i upgraded to ubuntu it have complained thats its wrong locale.11:38
eod_punkmy rythmbox will not play mp3's? lol11:38
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jendadasenjo: hmm... no idea how to get the sound - but I can get you an error, if you wish ;)11:38
jeff303eod_punk, ok tried it out, it seems without sudo it wil just list those filesystems you have permission on (in your case, none), I guess it's normal11:38
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dasenjosquiddle, yes11:38
zcat[1] eod_punk: by default no, they're non-free..11:38
soundrayIs there a way to tell on an NFS server which clients have currently mounted an export?11:38
dasenjojenda, no, thanks .. :p11:38
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eod_punkjeff303: thanks for making sure i'm not crazy11:38
n00buntu!restrictedformats11:39
uboturestrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats11:39
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eod_punkzcat: I have jeff303: none just brings up the next command prompt like it executedto download the codec for it?11:39
dasenjocrimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1345011:39
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eod_punkman chatzilla for linux sucks11:39
jeff303eod_punk, well my guess is their code is something like "for every file system user owns, output info on filesystem", so it just doesn't output anything  :-)11:39
Zoohello all, I would highly like to either A. Get my 802.11 b/g Wireless LAN  , B. Alternative , Wisecom 802.11b Wireless PCMCIA Card (GL242201-0T) , working in ubuntu and Xandros :)11:39
tompkinseod_punk, chatzilla in all its forms sucks11:39
hunter85may I contact anyone of you to get any infos about ubuntu?11:39
nickrudjtd, I'm no expert with postfix or networking, but: nslookup 70.xx gives me a 192.168 address. That doesn't look right11:40
Zoobtw, I watched that, Google , with Mark Shuttleworth :P11:40
meisterw|onanyone knows it now, where i can find grproftp, i think its a simple question for non linux newbies11:40
eod_punkI liked chatzilla on the windows side11:40
tompkinseod_punk, ERC!11:40
Zoohey EO_11:40
_jasonhunter85: hi hunter, you can just ask the channel, and if anyone can help, they will11:40
Zoohey eod_punk11:40
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jtdnickrud: o_O11:40
eod_punkyes zoo?11:40
Zoouse Opera m8 :)11:40
soundray!info gproftpd11:40
eod_punkk11:40
hunter85thank you jason!11:40
meisterw|onahh, a response....yea11:41
ZooI use, Opera 9 , for alot of all my desires hee :P and they integrated Bittorent in it m8, I been using it since opera 7, former long user of Mozilla :)11:41
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deuswhats the command for going trough a locale change?11:41
gnomefreakdeus: sudo dpkg --reconfigure locales11:41
dasenjocrimsun, any idea?11:42
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Pokercan you suggest me a good avi player, please ?11:42
meisterw|onok, i think i will ask you the next day,  its to late today...11:42
jeff303Poker, totem, with w32codecs package installed11:42
crimsundasenjo: sec, I'm in a meeting11:43
meisterw|oncu and gn8 @all11:43
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nickrudPoker, mplayer, vlc, totem-xine, xine with the codecs11:43
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chapiumi found they all work fine with appropriate codecs11:43
hunter85so I'm a windows user but I'd like to install Ubuntu... 'cause I love it as I tried it... so I got a second hd and I'd like to install ubuntu on it, keeping windows as primary OS... what kinda settings should I use for installing or... is anything I should be supposed to take care of?11:43
ENE|ToxicWPA wlan problem. Pastebin ==> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13452 | wlan card: intel pro 220011:44
nickrudhunter85, you should simply tell the installer to take over the second drive.11:44
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zcat[1] I prever vlc or mplayer.. but with w32codecs installed most of the players will play everything just fine11:44
hunter85and the boot loader?11:44
Pokerjeff303,  where could i find w32codecs ?11:44
hunter85will it set everything automatically??11:44
zcat[1] tell poker about !restricted11:45
nickrudhunter85, it will be installed to the mbr of the first drive, and will recognize & set up your windows on the first drive for booting11:45
jeff303Poker, one sec I'll tell you the repository to add11:45
zcat[1] .. umm something like that?11:45
gnomefreakhunter85: just install it to the sec harddrive and grub will set itself up11:45
Pokerthank you11:45
zcat[1] source o matic :)11:45
nickrud!w32codecs11:45
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crimsundasenjo: have you tried unmuting and setting all of the following to 80%? Front, Surround, Center, LFE11:45
hunter85so that I can choose what OS to use as well... I imagine11:46
nickruddear ubotu's being difficult11:46
gnomefreak!easysource11:46
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:46
gnomefreak^^ zcat[1]  that?11:46
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gnomefreak!+w32codecs11:46
ubotumethinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install. To use w32codecs on a 64-bit system, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439911:46
zcat[1] yeah.. it's great!! very good for quickly gettign a clean sources.list when someone's been playing with easy ubuntu :)11:46
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eod_punkwhats the command to unmount a dev?11:46
jeff303Poker, you can add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list:11:46
gnomefreaknickrud: it was too long for channel use the !+ to get by that11:46
jeff303Poker,11:47
jeff303deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free11:47
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nickrudhunter85, precisely. Ubuntu is not so stupid as to cut off new users from their windows11:47
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nickrudgnomefreak, thanks11:47
gnomefreakanytime11:47
zcat[1] windows is very good at nuking grub though..11:47
hunter85eheh ;) thank u so much guys!11:47
kbrookszcat[1] : EU doesnt overwrite your sources.list11:47
Pokerok11:47
eod_punkis there a way to edit grub to make the default different?11:47
zcat[1] eU does if you check the 'change sources list' box.11:47
Pokerthank you jeff30311:48
jeff303Poker, np11:48
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n00buntuENE|Toxic, you should change -Dmadwifi to -Dipw if you're using the ipw2200 driver11:48
nickrudeod_punk, change the default boot stanza in menu.lst in /boot/grub11:48
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ENE|Toxicn00buntu: will try that, thanks :)11:48
eod_punkthanks nickrud11:49
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zcat[1] perhaps they dropped that more recently.. but I've ran into a few users who checked everything and/or ran it more than once, and ended up with sources apt couldn't follow..11:49
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MrMaDSeNhi!  anyone got a minute? :)11:50
Zoohey gnomefreak11:50
ENE|Toxicn00buntu: That worked just great. Indeed sometimes the obvious just isn't obvioius enough. Thanks11:50
jeff303MrMaDSeN, don't ask to ask, just ask11:50
nickrudeod_punk, there's a line that starts with default at the beginning of the file; change that to the index of the title you want (start counting at zero)11:50
gnomefreakhi Zoo11:50
n00buntuENE|Toxic, yw11:50
zcat[1] !ask11:50
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.11:50
jujumanhello11:50
jujumandoes anyone here know how to stop the x11 server so i can install these nvidia drivers?11:51
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Zooi wasn't too into gnome alot.. was all into KDE< however, found that, gnome, ran faster, and best in support.. that was workstation.. I have had a long jourreney, with this Acer Aspir e3610, I Hope you guys aint' mad at me still, I took myself off that Effexor XR, and I"m anxiety free.. :)11:51
nickrudjujuman, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:51
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zcat[1] jujuman: ctrl-alt-F1, log in, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:51
squiddlejujuman  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:51
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MrMaDSeNjeff303: hehe.... my charset is iso-8859 western set correctly on keyboard.. but when i ssh to a server my terminal doesn't show that charset... its still utf11:51
jujumanok thank you11:51
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nickrudjujuman, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm afterwards11:51
jujumanty11:52
ZooI watched that, Mark Shuttleworth, too bad I couldn't of been there, however, if he comes to Chicago, I will defanately go,11:52
nickrudjujuman, ergh,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start :)11:52
Pokerhey jeff303 do you suggest me to keep the repository added or it would be better to del it after the installation11:52
ZooJune 1st, I can't wait, man I wish it would just get here, :(11:52
zcat[1] then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the nicest way to reconfigure X11:52
jeff303Poker, I would keep it there, in case they ever issue an upgrade it will pick it up, but it's up to you11:52
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tech_faen11:52
jeff303MrMaDSeN, sorry buddy don't know how to fix that11:53
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nickrudPoker, general wisdom says, don't leave an unofficial source active except when you are actively using it11:53
tech_anyone now about WoW working in ubuntu?11:53
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gnomefreak!wow11:53
ubotuwow is probably To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WoW and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource11:53
Pokerok thank you11:53
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MrMaDSeNjeff303: ok... how do I set the default charset correctly then?  maybe that'll help? :)11:53
mickcan anyone help a me get dual monitors working?11:53
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gnomefreaktech_: ^^^ for wow11:53
zcat[1] nickrud: really? I leave them active so I get updates (things like quinn's compiz repo)11:53
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NoUsegnomefreak the first wiki link ubotu gives isn't right, it should be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WoWguideWine-SE11:54
lokomotyvoi11:54
NoUsegnomefreak correction11:54
tech_!wow11:54
uboturumour has it, wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WoW and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource11:54
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NoUsegnomefreak looks like that page is gone11:54
Zoohey, anyone wireless professional, expert, or knowledge, great deal, I go to college for it, however with building and configuring drivers, my goal. and designing Artificiial Intelligence System, maybe integrate that into ubuntu, Maybe, ubuntu next release, have  VMware player in it :)11:55
gnomefreaki think im seeign that too11:55
nickrudzcat[1] , who knows what might get dropped into that source? If you trust the archive manager, ok. Otherwise, they might drop in something to support something they're distributing that might conflict with something from somewhere else.11:55
ZooI just would like to be able to use, my Acer Aspire, 802.11 b/g11:55
gnomefreakhold up a sec11:55
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lokomotyvaaaa11:55
NoUsegnomefreak found it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft11:55
eod_punknickrud:  for grub would i need to change the entry "root  (hd0,0)" to "root  hd0,1)" to make it the default?11:55
zcat[1] that reminds me.. someone is going to have to walk me through getting MSIE working under wine ..11:55
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rickywhat is the command to go to root mode in the terminal?11:56
dasteve2hi there, can anyone help me with an issue regarding the fglrx driver for ati vid cards?11:56
squiddlericky  sudo -i11:56
nickrudeod_punk, no, look towards the top of the file, for a line that starts with default. It should have a 0 following. That's the line you will alter11:56
gnomefreakty NoUse it will be fixed11:56
jeff303MrMaDSeN, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales11:56
rickythank you squiddle11:56
gravesonwhat can i use to convert video files(avi and rm) to ipod video format .any guides available11:56
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zcat[1] graveson: mencoder11:56
Zooanyone know if, Wisecom 802.11b Wireless PCMCIA Card (GL242201-0T)   would be faster than, Mobile Intel 910GML Express chipset with integrated graphics; 802.11b/g WLAN    o.o11:57
mickwhere does xorg.conf live?11:57
nickrudmick, /etc/X1111:57
Zooricky11:57
mickthx11:57
Zooyou also can type,  sudo su -11:57
Pokerehm....Intel Centrino is 586...isn't it ?11:57
Zooand you'll be, root@ubuntu etc11:57
eod_punknickrud: ok i found that, do I need to alter anything towards the bottom to make windows boot by default?11:57
zcat[1] sudo -i11:57
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rickythank you all very much11:57
crimsunPoker: 68611:57
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Zooheck, you could even make your own configuratino hot key lmao11:57
Pokerok11:57
Zooany wireless experts in here lol11:58
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ZooI'm IT, but I don't consider myself expert, yet :P11:58
nickrudeod_punk, now, start counting all the lines that start with title ( 0, 1, 2, etc) when you get to windows, that's the number you'll put on that default line11:58
bjv!powernowd11:58
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bjv11:58
Zoonot  with all the knowledge out in the world, I never could :)11:58
Zooubuntu next release, needs to be, total wireless supportive :D11:58
eod_punknickrud: ahhh ok11:58
ZooAcer,,, cough cough,, plz ubuntu :P11:58
bjvim searching the wiki, is there a howto for enabling AMD frequency scaling?11:58
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Zoohi zcat11:59
dasteve2zoo, what you trying to do with wireless?11:59
zcat[1] Zoo: great. You start by persuading chipset suppliers to release docs :)11:59
Zoooh thanks :D11:59
mickso, in order to make myself completely inept, what is the command to edit xorg.conf?11:59
Zoohee11:59
Zootrue :)11:59
Zoopatience, :P11:59
dasteve2mick, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:59
jeff303mick, use your favorite, gedit, vi, emacs11:59
ZooI have this, Acer right,11:59
gnomefreakNoUse: its been fixed ty for bringing that to my attention11:59
dasteve2can anyone help me with an issue regarding the fglrx driver for ati vid cards?11:59
micktough to have a favorite on day 2 of linux use11:59
micklol12:00
Kyozabe1zoo, it is (wireless supportive)12:00
zcat[1] mick: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:00

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