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[05:53] (roo_/#ubuntu) gnomefreak, mathieu, f1-6 all blank.
[05:53] (roo_/#ubuntu) gnomefreak, mathieu - framebuffer problem perhaps?
[05:53] (sparkleytone/#ubuntu) erikh: yeah, except its like running debian stable with unstable packages...without the hassle ;)
[05:53] (erikh/#ubuntu) ahhhh SWEET.
[05:53] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) roo_: could be did you change xorg config file lately?
[05:54] (erikh/#ubuntu) thanks so much folks.
[05:54] (sparkleytone/#ubuntu) erikh: altho one caveat is that package versions are frozen for each ubuntu version
[05:54] (roo_/#ubuntu) gnomefreak, i didn't, but VT's dont use X's config at all tho?
[05:54] (erikh/#ubuntu) sparkleytone: that's actually ideal
[05:54] (sparkleytone/#ubuntu) erikh: which can put you in a situation like the current one with clamav
[05:54] (erikh/#ubuntu) well, the servers I setup are simple but plentiful... we provide game servers.
[05:54] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) vt?
[05:54] (erikh/#ubuntu) so stuff like that actually benefits us.
[05:55] (sparkleytone/#ubuntu) yeah
[05:55] (roo_/#ubuntu) gnomefreak, virutal terminal..
[05:55] <Ummmmm> how do I install .deb files?
[05:55] <sparkleytone> it usually benefits Everyone?
[05:55] <sparkleytone> sometimes not tho
[05:55] <orbin> Ummmmm: what are you installing?
[05:55] <sparkleytone> Ummmmm: dpkg -i package.deb
[05:55] <erikh> well, I come from FreeBSD and prefer that ultimately
[05:55] <sparkleytone> generally
[05:55] <erikh> looking for something that's linux based that will do what I need
[05:55] <erikh> it seems that ubuntu will do that! :)
[05:56] <mcmillen> Ng, urUSUL: thanks for the pointer!
[05:56] <gnomefreak> roo_: what i was getting at was that there is a framebuffer setting in xorg (did it stop working after playing in xprg config file) or has it always been broken?
[05:56] <sparkleytone> erikh: i think i'm going to try solaris next :)  Nexenta is solaris-based with ubuntu packages ;)
[05:56] <Ummmmm> how do i get dpkg to force-install dependencies?
[05:56] <roo_> gnomefreak, ah i see, apologies. I havent changed anything in xorg.conf
[05:56] <erikh> intesting
[05:56] <roo_> gnomefreak, its a clean install.
[05:57] <roo_> gnomefreak, of breezy.
[05:57] <sparkleytone> Ummmmm: if you have a bunch of dependencies, why aren't you using apt-get ?
[05:57] <gnomefreak> roo_: so it has never worked right?
[05:57] <roo_> gnomefreak, never.
[05:57] <gnomefreak> roo_: what kernel are you using?
[05:58] <roniez> does anybody how i can get wordwrap in aterm
[05:58] <Nikosgr> what is this?
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[05:58] <Xenguy> !ops
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[05:58] <Ummmmm> eep
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[05:58] <Hanna_> this is pretty lame.
[06:01] <roo_> gnomefreak, Linux vin 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:01] <Stormx2`> Is it safe now?
[06:01] <UKMatt> has anyone ever gotten a runtime error from gdesklet's launcher?
[06:01] <HymnToLife> damn, what the hell was that ?
[06:01] <Nikosgr> what is this?
[06:01] <orbin> Stormx2`: yeah, you can stop hiding now. :)
[06:01] <chapium> did anyone just get a rediculous number of messages?
[06:01] <gnomefreak> Stormx2`: i think so for now i only got 3-4 of them
[06:01] <ubotu> it has been said that ops is Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[06:01] <Amaranth> lag bot?
[06:01] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: its done
[06:02] <sparkleytone> that was ridiculous...
[06:02] <Seveas> me
[06:02] <gnomefreak> it was a major botting crap
[06:02] <Seveas> h
[06:02] <roniez> aterm + wordwrap is it possible? cause mine isnt wrapping the lines.
[06:02] <Seveas> !ops is <reply> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[06:02] <ubotu> ...but ops is already something else...
[06:02] <roniez> it just keeps on going and going... so i cant see all stuff.
[06:02] <sparkleytone> i was looking at another channel when my GUI client locked up...thinking 'wtf that never happens'
[06:02] <Stormx2`> Yeah
[06:02] <sparkleytone> yay for irssi proxies
[06:02] <erikh> heh
[06:02] <Amaranth> !no, ops is <reply> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[06:02] <erikh> i just used irssi's advanced ignore
[06:02] <Stormx2`> I said !ops a while back but it said "Cannot send to channel"
[06:02] <Nikosgr> wher do they find this irssi proxies?
[06:02] <erikh> got rid of most of it
[06:02] <Seveas> Amaranth, I already /msg'ed him 
[06:02] <aeon17x> And we still have 700+ users on lol
[06:02] <Amaranth> Seveas: hehe
[06:03] <erikh> oh, someone was exploiting the proxy?
[06:03] <erikh> arg.
[06:03] <Amaranth> aeon17x: We get up to 800 at times.
[06:03] <gnomefreak> someone set mode to mi?
[06:03] <gnomefreak> what was that?
[06:03] <erikh> probably to stop the flood.
[06:03] <Amaranth> +m means you can't talk without op/voice
[06:03] <Amaranth> +i is invite only
[06:03] <sparkleytone> erikh: not what i meant...i meant even tho my GUI client died i didn't have to rejoin everything because my irssi proxy took it like a champ.
[06:03] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[06:03] <Stormx2`> yeah
[06:03] <erikh> +i is invite only
[06:03] <erikh> sparkleytone: yep, me too
[06:04] <knanand> hi
[06:04] <erikh> although I'm using dircproxy+irssi here
[06:04] <erikh> and then I used /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS NOTICES
[06:04] <erikh> which got rid of most of it
[06:04] <sparkleytone> that's the first time x-chat aqua has every crashed on me
[06:04] <Nikosgr> wher do they find this irssi proxies?
[06:04] <sparkleytone> ever*
[06:04] <knanand> I have installed Opera 8. How can i make it my default browser??
[06:04] <erikh> Nikosgr: irssi is a irc client that has proxy features
[06:04] <erikh> you can probably find it via apt-get :)
[06:05] <Nikosgr> lol
[06:05] <Nikosgr> and xchat isnt?
[06:05] <Amaranth> knanand: System->Preferences->Preferred Applications
[06:05] <sparkleytone> heh...the deb is configured without proxy
[06:05] <erikh> xchat doesn't have proxy features, IIRC
[06:05] <sparkleytone> ironically enough it was irssi i was installing when checkinstall broke my box
[06:05] <gnomefreak> erikh: i think it does
[06:05] <Nikosgr> how do i search in repos for irssi* stuff?
[06:05] <knanand> ok.... thank you!!
[06:05] <Amaranth> checkinstall is evil
[06:05] <Nikosgr> apt-cache searcg irssi* ?
[06:05] <sparkleytone> Amaranth: i know this now
[06:05] <erikh> yeah
[06:05] <chapium> anyone know how you set gmail as your default mail reader?
[06:06] <sparkleytone> Amaranth: but the past 2 yrs i had been using it with no issues
[06:06] <gnomefreak> xchat does have proxy settings in prefferences
[06:06] <sparkleytone> we are talking about two different proxies...
[06:06] <Amaranth> chapium: You can't.
[06:07] <Nikosgr> but where do they find so much
[06:07] <sparkleytone> the irssi proxy being an always-on client that accepts incoming authenticated connections from other irc clients
[06:07] <knanand> shuld i incude the full path??
[06:07] <Nikosgr> are they free?
[06:07] <chapium> Amaranth: ah
[06:07] <Amaranth> knanand: It can't hurt.
[06:07] <chapium> okies
[06:07] <pbx> Is there a "troubleshooting wifi connections" guide anywhere? I'm running the latest Dapper on an Inspiron laptop with a wifi card that worked well under 5.10.  *Seems* to be set up correctly -- in Network settings it says "Wireless connection -- the interface eth0 is active", and it sees the AP. The "Default gateway device" popup there doesn't seem to stick though. It's blank whenever I open Network settings, and setting it to eth0 doesn't seem to have an effect.
 the irssi proxy being an always-on client that accepts incoming authenticated connections from other irc clients
[06:08] <Wirwing> Hi, do i need to be logged as Root to read a ntfs partition?
[06:08] <Nikosgr> what do you mean by that?
[06:08] <Amaranth> !wifi
[06:08] <ubotu> hmm... wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:08] <Amaranth> Wirwing: no
[06:08] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[06:08] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:08] <mike10> hey i just upgraded to dapper but nautilus doesn't work anymore
[06:08] <pbx> ubotu: I'll check that out, thanks!
[06:08] <sparkleytone> Nikosgr: think of it as a remote desktop for an irc session
[06:08] <ubotu> pbx: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:08] <Amaranth> !doesn't work
[06:08] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[06:08] <Amaranth> ubotu does everything :)
[06:08] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Amaranth
[06:09] <Nikosgr> i jst downloaded xchat-systray
[06:09] <mike10> Amaranth,  it doesn't load
[06:09] <Nikosgr> but dotn knwo hwo to start it can someone help?
[06:09] <mike10> it crashes
[06:09] <Amaranth> mike10: If you make a new account and login to it does it crash?
[06:09] <sparkleytone> Nikosgr: you would probably be better served in a more general linux help chatroom
[06:09] <mike10> Amaranth, i'll try that
[06:10] <Nikosgr> yes
[06:10] <Nikosgr> but iam usign ubuntu
[06:10] <Wirwing> ok, but when i try to access to a xp ntfs partition, it shows me "you dont have permission to view the contents of hda1.... what im doing wrong?:S
[06:10] <orbin> Nikosgr: that's just an applet that show up in the notification area when xchat is active
[06:10] <sparkleytone> Nikosgr: yes, but your questions aren't ubuntu specific in any way
[06:10] <mike10> Amaranth, i'm using the test unstable version
[06:10] <Nikosgr> yes
[06:10] <Amaranth> mike10: me too
[06:10] <Amaranth> mike10: Please join #ubuntu+1 though
[06:10] <Nikosgr> orbin, so i must rerun xchat for it to work?
[06:11] <orbin> Nikosgr: no, just add the notification area applet to one of your panels
[06:11] <Nikosgr> what i actually want in linxu(which is becaue iam used from xp) is
[06:11] <sparkleytone> cliffhanger...
[06:11] <Nikosgr> that when i calick minimize or close my applications to go into tray mode
[06:11] <Nikosgr> instead of minimaxzation
[06:11] <Nikosgr> is this possible please?
[06:12] <sparkleytone> meh...the tray is bad UI
[06:12] <Nikosgr> UI ?
[06:13] <orbin> user interface
[06:14] <Nikosgr> canht application go into tray mode in gnome?
[06:14] <Nikosgr> like gaim and sound is?
[06:14] <jeff303> how can I actually change what applications mozplugger uses?  I want it to use evince for pdfs but currently it is set to acroread (which isn't even working)
[06:14] <Nikosgr> gaim is in tray mode as weel as sound
[06:14] <sparkleytone> i'd probably get into trouble taking about UI in this channel tho...me being a mac user and all that only uses linux if X11 is not installed.  so you might not want to listen to me on that :P
[06:15] <Nikosgr> :)
[06:15] <UKMatt> has anyone ever gotten a runtime error from gdesklet's launcher?
[06:15] <Nikosgr> orbin, is what i am skign possbile?
[06:15] <Amaranth> Nikosgr: Only if the app supports it.
[06:15] <Nikosgr> i see
[06:15] <Nikosgr> well not many app in linxu does
[06:15] <Nikosgr> gaim does
[06:15] <Amaranth> Nikosgr: Actually, I think there might be a (KDE) tool that makes any app minimize to tray.
[06:15] <Nikosgr> nothign else i seen so far do
[06:15] <Amaranth> Yeah, it's usually not a good thing.
[06:16] <Nikosgr> Amaranth, really??!!?
[06:16] <Nikosgr> how cna i search for it?
[06:16] <Nikosgr> i like it very muich
[06:16] <pbx> Hmm, I walked through the wifi guide with success until this point: """If [pinging an IP]  doesn't work and you get statements saying "Destination host unreachable" or "request timed out", then you've got a problem and you aren't connected. (somebody should write some instructions on what to do next)"""  That's pretty funny.
[06:16] <Nikosgr> i dont like many windows in  my taskbar
[06:16] <sparkleytone> lmao pbx
[06:16] <Nikosgr> i would like better to vie them as icons in tray
[06:17] <Amaranth> Nikosgr: http://l1nux.free.fr/index.php?action=downloadfile&filename=kdocker_1.2-1_i386.deb&directory=Debian/Utilities might work
[06:17] <Amaranth> Nikosgr: download and install that deb
[06:18] <Nikosgr> Amaranth, is there a gmome app that does the same?
[06:18] <Nikosgr> yes
[06:18] <Amaranth> No but this app works on Gnome.
[06:19] <misfit_toy> speechof
[06:19] <Nikosgr> is a kde app that work on gnome?
[06:19] <Nikosgr> how is this possible?
[06:19] <Amaranth> all KDE apps work on Gnome
[06:19] <Amaranth> and vice-versa
[06:19] <yeti> Hi, I have a Dell XPS m140, screen resolution native is 1280x800.  I have a fresh install and my resolution is stuck at 1024x768 and its making me cross eyed.  Can anyone help me get it set right?
[06:19] <Nikosgr> thats very nice to hear
[06:19] <Nikosgr> didnt knew that!
[06:20] <sparkleytone> 1280x800 native?  ew
[06:20] <Amaranth> !fixres
[06:20] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:20] <Amaranth> sparkleytone: Standard widescreen resolution
[06:20] <sparkleytone> Amaranth: i thought that was 1280x768
[06:20] <danny> hahaha\
[06:20] <danny> lfgdkfokffjjf
[06:20] <pbx> Hmm, if I continue with the command-line troubleshooting at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto and run "ifup" on my wireless card after running "ifdown" on my other interfaces, I get a lot of DHCPDISCOVER lines that don't seem to be discovering anything...
[06:20] <Amaranth> sparkleytone: Actually, I think you're right.
[06:21] <Amaranth> sparkleytone: but 1280x800 is pretty common
[06:21] <frying_fish> yeti: you will most likely need 915resolution
[06:21] <Nikosgr> thanks Amaranth its very cool!
[06:21] <Amaranth> G-DogG: Hi.
[06:21] <yeti> thanks for the link
[06:21] <yeti> frying_fish, is 915 resolution a special package?
[06:22] <HIGH-FREQ> what was the command to reconfigure xorg
[06:22] <frying_fish> well its a package that you run for i915 chipsets
[06:22] <frying_fish> which I assume you have yeti
[06:22] <frying_fish> or something along those lines.
[06:22] <Tidus> wow that was a huge flood
[06:22] <Amaranth> danny: Thank you, come again.
[06:22] <yeti> yeah, I have a 915 GMA chipset
[06:22] <frying_fish> yeti: yes, then get 915resolution and run it
[06:22] <frying_fish> then add the resolution to xorg.conf
[06:22] <Nikosgr> guys i have set time to Europe/athens
[06:22] <Nikosgr> but its not the correct time
[06:22] <frying_fish> and HIGH-FREQ dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:23] <frying_fish> yeti: its in synaptic
[06:23] <HIGH-FREQ> aah...that its...
[06:23] <Nikosgr> instread of seeing 19:23 i see 3:22pm why
[06:23] <HIGH-FREQ> keep forgettin
[06:23] <frying_fish> well, maybe in breezy, definately in dapper
[06:23] <Amaranth> Nikosgr: Right click on the time and choose change
[06:23] <Amaranth> Nikosgr: err, adjust
[06:23] <Nikosgr> yes but why not being correct since i tzconfig?
[06:24] <pbx> ubotu: Thanks for the help, this may be an AP config issue.  I hope.
[06:24] <ubotu> pbx: bitte
[06:24] <Amaranth> pbx: ubotu is a bot :)
[06:24] <pbx> Ha!
[06:24] <pbx> I was wondering how he was typing so fast
[06:25] <knanand> i want to start GAIM each time i login... Is there a way to launch it at startup??
[06:25] <yeti> yeah, it was in Synaptec, thanx
[06:25] <Amaranth> knanand: System->Preferences->Sessions
[06:25] <Amaranth> knanand: startup programs tab
[06:26] <Nikosgr> ok it got syncronized!
[06:26] <yeti> the terminal says "setting up xserver ......" do I have to reboot, or edit a config file or somthing?
[06:26] <kaisa> Moro ihmiset!!
[06:26] <Nikosgr> ig i know a description of an pp that i want removed how do i remove it?
[06:27] <knanand> what is the order there?/
[06:27] <khaladan> how do i get a list of all packages installed on my machine?
[06:27] <yeti> successfull applied
[06:27] <kaisa> jnn on juu.
[06:27] <yeti> humm
[06:28] <Amaranth> knanand: Leave the current things in the order they are, add your program to the bottom of the list
[06:28] <jmoncayo> had somebody installed the ares plugin for gift project?
[06:28] <HIGH-FREQ> !ubotu enabling fglrx
[06:28] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HIGH-FREQ
[06:28] <Nikosgr> ig i know a description of an pp that i want removed how do i remove it?
[06:28] <knanand> ya i added that.. but what is it used for
[06:28] <Copperr> anyone can help with an Ubuntu instalation issue here ?
[06:28] <newbie33> I got info that new linux kerner released, how to see my kernerl mode?
[06:29] <kaisa> i wanttu gou houm.
[06:29] <Amaranth> knanand: The programs in that list will start in the order they're listed.
[06:29] <khaladan> I'd like a list of all installed packages.  How can I generate this list?
[06:29] <Sammylvz> hi
[06:29] <newbie33> !kernel
[06:30] <feross> khaladan: dpkg -l
[06:30] <Copperr> any idea why on the partitioning it gives me a MINIMUM of 50 GB ?!
[06:30] <Sammylvz> how do u get into the oof topic room ?????????????
[06:30] <Amaranth> Sammylvz: the what?
[06:30] <Amaranth> Copperr: that's...odd
[06:30] <kaisa> HALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[06:30] <Sammylvz> how do u get in to the off topic room?????
[06:30] <Copperr> yeah and it won't let me use 10 GB as i want
[06:31] <Amaranth> Sammylvz: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:31] <Copperr> i already set up a FAT 32 partition and want to install there
[06:31] <jmoncayo> Sammylvz, #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:31] <Sammylvz> thanks xx
[06:31] <Amaranth> Copperr: I don't think you can install Ubuntu on a fat32 partition
[06:31] <Amaranth> Copperr: And even if you can I wouldn't.
[06:31] <newbie33> !ubotu kernel
[06:31] <Copperr> it has 10 GB but when i try to install Ubuntu it says minimum size 50 GB
[06:31] <Sammylvz> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:31] <Amaranth> Sammylvz: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:31] <Nikosgr> ig i know a description of an package that i want removed how do i remove it?
[06:32] <kaisa> I hate ubuntu linux... :P
[06:32] <Amaranth> Nikosgr: Use synaptic to search in package descriptions
[06:32] <Copperr> well i would format the FAT 32 but why minimum 50 GB ?!
[06:32] <Nikosgr> i mean from cli
[06:32] <Sammylvz> thanks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[06:32] <teimu> can i do anything with rpms in ubunut?
[06:32] <NoUse> !rpm
[06:32] <ubotu> methinks rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[06:32] <Amaranth> Nikosgr: I don't know how to search package descriptions from cli, sorry.
[06:32] <teimu> !alien
[06:32] <ubotu> I heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:32] <Nikosgr> its ok
[06:33] <ccc_> teimu: try not to
[06:33] <DarKnesS_WolF> cool moved from debian to ubuntu :-)
[06:33] <Copperr> any ideas on why it gives me a minimum of %) GB when trying to install Ubuntu during pratitioning ?!
[06:33] <teimu> well, i just downloaded the latest open office, and it comes in rpms. the one from aptget is old
[06:33] <NoUse> Copperr I think you might be misreading things, I would think Ubuntu would need a minimum of 50 Megabyes, not gigabytes
[06:33] <Copperr> 50GB
[06:34] <Copperr> it clearly says Min 50 GB
[06:34] <Copperr> GB
[06:34] <Sammylvz> a kiss for everone xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[06:34] <Copperr> during instalation
[06:34] <Amaranth> Copperr: Try installing to a regular ext3 partition.
[06:34] <DarKnesS_WolF> i have a fast question i have noticed that ICEWM and OPENBOX not in the apt source. they are in the universal ?
[06:34] <Copperr> and i typed in 10 GB and it said it's too low
[06:34] <mikeo1> Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path, Please set correct fontPath in the tightvncserver script, Couldn't start Xtightvnc process.... any ideas what the correct font path is?
[06:34] <NoUse> Amaranth how is your current partition table set up?
[06:34] <NoUse> Amaranth oops mistype sorry
[06:34] <mikeo1> Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'
[06:35] <NoUse> Copperr how is your current partition table setup?
[06:35] <Amaranth> NoUse: Mine is ppc, OS X stuff. :P
[06:35] <Copperr> under XP i set up and empty FAT 32 partition of 10 GB
[06:35] <ccc_> teimu: they have debs, don't they?
[06:35] <mikeo1> running dapper and xgl
[06:35] <NoUse> Copperr what is the FAT32 partition for?
[06:35] <Copperr> i want to partition it to install Ubuntu
[06:35] <[Leo] > hi all
[06:36] <NoUse> Copperr you have to resize or remove the FAT32 partiton as Linux installs to a partition called Ext3
[06:36] <Copperr> but during instalation of Ubuntu , during partitioning , it says min 50 BG
[06:36] <Copperr> GB
[06:36] <ccc_> DarKnesS_WolF: yep they are in universe
[06:36] <Amaranth> Copperr: You can't install Ubuntu on FAT32.
[06:36] <Copperr> ok so if i format the 10 GB to Ext3, it would be okay ?
[06:36] <Amaranth> Copperr: Delete the 10GB fat32 partition and create an ext3 partition
[06:37] <NoUse> Copperr yes
 much apreciated :)
[06:37] <NoUse> Copperr I would just remove it and then tell the Ubuntu installer to use the free space on the disk
[06:37] <Copperr> thanks guys
[06:37] <Copperr> :)
[06:37] <DarKnesS_WolF> ccc_: thx i'm uncommenting all the deb lines in the sources files
[06:38] <GazzaK> where abouts is the sources file?
[06:38] <ccc_> GazzaK: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:38] <GazzaK> thanks ccc_
[06:39] <hikenboot> hello all ---its me again...I hadnt gotten an answer to my question which was...."Can one install a package into a live cd that will provide the same fuctionality as knoppix with regards to being able to preset a file name to use as a swap space on an available partition that has free space wether it be ntfs ext2 ext3 or swap?"
[06:39] <LoverxXx> hi
[06:39] <jacobnix> hello
[06:39] <jacobnix> guys
[06:39] <jacobnix> i am jacob
[06:40] <hikenboot> secondly is there a live cd mailing list for ubuntu?
[06:40] <NoUse> hikenboot I think thats set with boot options, not once you have booted the system
[06:40] <LoverxXx>  /join ubunbu-offtopic
[06:40] <jacobnix> someone knows how can i install ubuntu from lan net like fedora core
[06:40] <bilke> hi ppl :)
[06:40] <jacobnix> ?
[06:40] <hikenboot> LoverxXx, you talking to me?
[06:40] <bilke> try with debian
[06:40] <bilke> debian have network installation
[06:40] <LoverxXx> how do u get onto the offtopic room can someone help plz xxx
[06:40] <bilke> has
[06:41] <jacobnix> no but i want to install
[06:41] <jacobnix> ubuntu not Debian
[06:41] <LoverxXx> i will talk to anyone y
[06:41] <ccc_> LoverxXx: type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:41] <MenZa> LoverxXx: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:41] <MenZa> o_O
[06:41] <jacobnix> Ubuntu doesnt support install from net?
[06:41] <bilke> i think not
[06:41] <hikenboot> NoUse what exactly do you mean?
[06:41] <bilke> there is some workaround
[06:42] <bilke> but it's not clean
[06:42] <yggdrasil> is there any way to play wmv movie files in ubuntu ?
[06:42] <takedown> jacobnix: find a netboot image, it's support it
[06:42] <MenZa> !restrictedformats
[06:42] <ubotu> restrictedformats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:42] <jacobnix> who knows if i can install ubuntu from net
[06:42] <MenZa> Look there, yggdrasil
[06:42] <jacobnix> ?
[06:42] <yggdrasil> thnks
[06:42] <MenZa> np.
[06:42] <jacobnix> takedown: with netboot can i install ubuntu from net?
[06:43] <takedown> yep
[06:43] <mikebot> is there an equivolent command for "/dccserver +sc on 59" in xc-chat?
[06:43] <jacobnix> takedown: this boot image is in ubuntu cds
[06:43] <jacobnix> ?
[06:44] <takedown> jacobnix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot <- look here
[06:44] <jacobnix> ok
[06:44] <jacobnix> takedown, thanks very much
[06:44] <jacobnix> takedonw :)
[06:44] <takedown> jacobnix: np ;)
[06:45] <jessy_> somebody knows what is required in .htaccess in order the server uses php5 ?
[06:45] <MenZa> jessy_: try #apache
[06:45] <simoor> http://de.selfhtml.org
[06:45] <jessy_> oki
[06:45] <jacobnix> takedown my blog is here http://www.ministeriosjm.com/area51/~jacob/blog/
[06:46] <scifi> hi guys, any tips on speeding up the boot-up? anything i can safely disable ?
[06:46] <asterism> anyone korean?
[06:46] <MenZa> !korean
[06:46] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MenZa
[06:47] <hastesaver> asterism, #ubuntu-ko ?
[06:48] <hastesaver> scifi, how long does it take?
[06:48] <scifi> id say 40-60secs
[06:49] <jeff303> how can I view the standard output and/or error stream output from apps not launched from a terminal (i.e. the Gnome menu)?
[06:49] <simoor> @jeff: run the apps out of a terminal
[06:50] <hastesaver> jeff303, I don't know, but why not just launch them from a terminal?
[06:50] <jeff303> hastesaver, yeah I guess that's easy enough with Gnome's "Run in Terminal" option  :-)
[06:51] <hastesaver> jeff303, Or really have a terminal running and type the command from there :p
[06:51] <simoor> anybody has an idea how i can get clip recognition with my 56k modem?
[06:51] <scifi> no tips then ?
[06:52] <hastesaver> scifi, there's something called "bum"...
[06:52] <jaek> i am running version 8.24.8+2.6.15.9-3 on ubuntu dapper
[06:52] <scifi> lol
[06:52] <jaek> my Xorg.0.log file says...
[06:52] <Jimmey__> !bum
[06:52] <simoor> hey 40 til 60 seconds isnt bad
[06:52] <ubotu> I guess bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[06:52] <jaek> (EE) RADEON(0): [dri]  RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
[06:52] <jaek> [dri]  Disabling DRI.
[06:52] <jaek> what could i be doing wrong?
[06:52] <scifi> thx guys, will take a look
[06:55] <scifi> looks good, hasnt anyone used this, had mainly good/bad experiences ?
[06:55] <khaladan> is there a package group for installing common dev tools?
[06:55] <jeff303> khaladan, build-essentials
[06:55] <froud> I would like to replace metacity and ubuntu-desktop with matchbox-window-manager and matchbox-desktop any docs that can give me some direction on how?
[06:56] <hastesaver> scifi, go ahead and try, and tell us your experiences :)
[06:57] <hastesaver> froud, just install matchbox-desktop, and choose that one when you're logging in
[06:57] <scifi> but im a noobie, if i mess my install up, i wudnt know how to fix it :P
[06:57] <hastesaver> scifi, so don't remove anything unless you're sure it's not needed
[06:57] <khaladan> no build-essential is not it. that's the essential files for building deb packages. ideally i'm looking for a simple package that has stuff like make, bison, gcc listed
[06:57] <hastesaver> scifi, 40-60 seconds is quite good, IMHO
[06:58] <scifi> its not bad, but compared to my XP boot, its slow
[06:58] <hastesaver> scifi, for example, if you don't have a printer, you could try removing the printer services, etc
[06:58] <hastesaver> scifi, but if something doesn't make sense to you, better not to remove it :)
[06:58] <kIOsk> anyone here sues amarok and can tell me how it supports .cue sheets ??
[06:58] <scifi> yeh just noticed the HP printer service, not sure thats necessary for me
[06:59] <scifi> ive installed/running bum btw :P
[06:59] <simoor> amarok is a sound player
[06:59] <simoor> not a cd burning tool
[06:59] <lazzarello> is it policy not to configure an MTA or local mail spools on a base system?
[06:59] <lazzarello> cause I got none in /var/mail
[07:01] <LoverxXx> <3
[07:02] <g0dchild> WoohoO!
[07:02] <g0dchild> finally made the blasted eagle-usb modem work on ubuntu
[07:02] <jeff303> khaladan, build-essential "depends" on libc6-dev, gcc, g++, and make among other things
[07:02] <g0dchild> speaking of which, why cant i get the most recent release of amarok on synaptic?
[07:03] <g0dchild> yes, i do know about universe pkgs, if you're wondering
[07:03] <jaek> http://128.101.149.7/~jake/Xorg.0.log <- what is going wrong
[07:03] <hastesaver> g0dchild, the maintainers of the package have to decide when to upgrade, etc...
[07:03] <hastesaver> g0dchild, there is a source for "latest amarok packages"
[07:04] <g0dchild> oh... hastesaver - i tried compiling it from source. all hell broke loose that time....how?
[07:04] <g0dchild> ok, thanks
[07:04] <hastesaver> g0dchild, my policy is to not *ever* compile from source if I can help it :)
[07:05] <g0dchild> hastesaver, why not? its more 'optimized' isnt it?
[07:05] <g0dchild> or so i've heard
[07:06] <hastesaver> g0dchild, not worth the hassle. as you said, it often happens that all hell breaks loose ;)
[07:06] <lazzarello> anyone? /var/mail being empty on a new system? MTA being optional?
[07:06] <hastesaver> lazzarello, it had my account by default
[07:06] <lazzarello> probably a bug in testing
[07:06] <hastesaver> lazzarello, at install time, it asked for an email address, and I gave it my username (I think)... and I was getting mails sent to root
[07:06] <lazzarello> you running stable?
[07:06] <Elazar> Anyone know if there's a way in lftp to get a list of local files?
[07:06] <hastesaver> lazzarello, yeah, breezy
[07:07] <froud> hastesaver: I did but I dont have an option to select it when logging in
[07:07] <lazzarello> I'll go to #ubuntu+1
[07:07] <hastesaver> froud, don't you see something called "session" ?
[07:08] <khaladan> i'd like to run some kind of apt-get install --just-kidding where it'll just tell me all that it'll download
[07:08] <hastesaver> froud, the default gdm login screen has two options, one called "language" and one called "session"
[07:08] <khaladan> how can i do that
[07:08] <hastesaver> khaladan, press Ctrl-C when it starts downloading ;)
[07:08] <simoor> how can i start mgetty? nothing happens after entering the command
[07:09] <scifi> can anyone confirm that it wud be safe to stop the following services from running at start-up: hplip, cpusys and pcmcia. i dont have any printers installed and im not using a latop.
[07:09] <hastesaver> khaladan, it works, actually... also, there is a --dry-run option, see if it does what you want
[07:09] <froud> hastesaver: yes, the session dialog has no type for matchbox
[07:09] <tuxmaniac> khaladan: apt-get install XXX will tell what all it will downlaod
[07:09] <khaladan> looks like -s works fine
[07:09] <froud> hastesaver: should it be listed?
[07:10] <khaladan> i didn't see a --dry-run in the help..
[07:10] <hastesaver> froud, hmm, all the wms I installed have turned up in that menu -- kde, ratpoison, ...
[07:10] <hastesaver> froud, try installing *all* the matchbox packages if you can afford it
[07:10] <froud> hastesaver: yes, that is my experience also
[07:10] <froud> hastesaver: this is new one for me
[07:11] <roniez> crap. my aterm is screwing up...
[07:11] <roniez> it isnt wordwrapping my conversations.
[07:12] <hastesaver> who maintains the source-o-matic page?
[07:13] <scifi> noone ?
[07:14] <hastesaver> scifi, pcmcia seems necessary
[07:14] <hastesaver> scifi, and is the second one cpusys or cupsys?
[07:14] <scifi> sorry cupsys
[07:15] <hastesaver> scifi, hplip can be safely disabled if you're not using a printer (and so can cupsys, if that's what it is)
[07:15] <scifi> why pcmcia, they are laptop cards ?
[07:15] <hastesaver> oh, I don't know
[07:15] <hastesaver> scifi, besides, all this will probably only make a neglible change to your bootup time :)
[07:15] <monomaniacpat> Hello children!
[07:16] <scifi> dont tell me that now :P
[07:16] <hastesaver> scifi, I've heard that bootup times are *much faster* in the next release (dapper), you should just wait for a month and upgrade :)
[07:16] <roniez> h..
[07:17] <scifi> yeh heard that too :).....sorry i shudnt be so impatient :)
[07:17] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone tell me how to get both my external monitor and my laptop monitor displaying at the same time, so I can take my laptop on walkies if necessary?
[07:17] <hastesaver> all my apps start up konqueror as the browser, how do I set it to firefox?
[07:18] <chamo> hastesaver: System > Pref. > Prefered Applications
[07:18] <Elazar> Is there a particular reason why the ftp CLI client would continuously get "stuck" on a particular file in processing an mput command? The file isn't very large.
[07:19] <monomaniacpat> Am I right in thinking firefox is damn ugly in kde?
[07:19] <hastesaver> chamo, thanks, but do you know how do I do it from KDE? (or the command line?) It's painful to log out, log in to gnome, log out, ...
[07:19] <hastesaver> monomaniacpat, get a better skin :)
[07:20] <chamo> hastesaver: nope I dont know for KDE. check control pannel ^^
[07:20] <scifi> which browser do u guys recommend? im using firefox at the moment, can i install konqueror for gnome ?
[07:20] <hastesaver> monomaniacpat, most gtk apps look the same
[07:20] <monomaniacpat> from my brief experience it couldn't display the gnome skins ok
[07:20] <monomaniacpat> had big lines between different part
[07:20] <monomaniacpat> *s
[07:20] <hastesaver> scifi, sure you can install konqueror (which will probably install most of kde as well, but that's another matter)
[07:20] <scifi> o right :s
[07:21] <hastesaver> scifi, but I prefer firefox, if you want to know :)
[07:21] <scifi> ive heard firefox hogs memory, altho i havent experienced that myself
[07:21] <monomaniacpat> So does anyone know how to display on two monitors at once?
[07:22] <Nikosgr> hello
[07:22] <Nikosgr> look
 root@dell:~# /usr/games/brutalchess
 Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
 Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
 Video mode set failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[07:22] <imonkey> Nikosgr: please read the topic
[07:22] <Nikosgr> whats wrong?
[07:22] <bicky> In Synpatic stands the 2.37a version of Blender, but I want the 2.41. can I update this ?
[07:22] <monomaniacpat> Nikosgr: use the pastebin
[07:22] <hastesaver> scifi, um, it sometimes goes way up, but not often (and when it does, a restart of firefox fixes it)
[07:22] <monomaniacpat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:22] <hastesaver> scifi, I haven't experienced it in the recent past, though
[07:22] <Nikosgr> sory it was only 4 lines
[07:22] <hathai> ping
[07:23] <simoor> ping lost :P
[07:23] <Nikosgr> why cant i play brutalchess whats wrong plz?
[07:23] <scifi> says 98MB in system monitor, what does konqueror use ?
[07:23] <Elazar> Is there a particular reason why the ftp CLI client would continuously get "stuck" on a particular file in processing an mput command? The file isn't very large.
[07:23] <Nikosgr> someonle plz help me
[07:23] <imonkey> Nikosgr: you should even use pastebin for 2 lines
[07:23] <simoor> how can i install my modem? lspci says: 0000:00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 04)
[07:23] <Nikosgr> ok sorry
[07:24] <hastesaver> chamo, I think "update-alternatives" is the thing, BTW
[07:24] <Nikosgr> someone plz help me in private
[07:25] <simoor> how can i install my modem? lspci says: 0000:00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 04)
[07:26] <Stormx2`> !modem
[07:26] <ubotu> modem is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[07:26] <Nikosgr> guys plz soemone help em with thsoe drivers
[07:26] <Nikosgr> iam unexprienced to do it
[07:26] <Nikosgr> i just installed nvidia-glx
[07:26] <g0dchild> which kinda chipset?
[07:27] <Nikosgr> why the game wont work?
[07:27] <g0dchild> you're good as dead with a winmodem.
[07:27] <chamo> game?
[07:27] <NoUse> Nikosgr have you followed the wiki instructions?
[07:27] <chamo> what game?
[07:27] <Nikosgr> i think that i have them installed
[07:27] <Nikosgr> i apt-get install nvia-glx
[07:27] <NoUse> Nikosgr thats all?
[07:27] <Nikosgr> so the driver sare installed
[07:28] <Nikosgr> and nvidia-glx enable i did
[07:28] <jonny> quit
[07:28] <NoUse> Nikosgr no, read the instructions again
[07:28] <NoUse> !nvidia
[07:28] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:28] <monomaniacpat> What is synergy?
[07:29] <Nikosgr> this http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaHowTo ?
[07:29] <NoUse> Nikosgr yes
[07:29] <Nikosgr> ok its for debian
[07:29] <Nikosgr> but i gues it will be applied to ubuntiu right
[07:29] <NoUse> Nikosgr no its on the ubuntu wiki, its for ubuntu
[07:29] <Nikosgr> a sorry!
[07:29] <NoUse> !tell Nikosgr about nvidia
[07:29] <NoUse> Nikosgr follow the link ubotu sent you
[07:29] <Nikosgr> debian would not work the same?
[07:30] <NoUse> Nikosgr ubotu sent you the ubuntu instructions
[07:30] <Nikosgr> yes
[07:30] <Nikosgr> i will follow them
[07:30] <Nikosgr> thank you
[07:30] <Nikosgr> would there be a problem if iu would folow debians intead?
[07:30] <NoUse> Nikosgr probably
[07:30] <NoUse> Nikosgr there isn't really a reason to, is there?
[07:30] <Nikosgr> no
[07:31] <Nikosgr> but ubuntu is debian based
[07:31] <Nikosgr> so i though it might work
[07:31] <NoUse> Nikosgr doesn't mean they are the same
[07:31] <Nikosgr> ok
[07:32] <luiz> somebody please, tell me where i'm get a ubuntu-Br irc ?????
[07:32] <NoUse> !br
[07:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:32] <NoUse> luiz type /join #ubuntu-br
[07:32] <heeeehoooowwwww> does anybody here can help me with k3b?
[07:33] <NoUse> !anyone
[07:33] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[07:33] <luiz> join #ubuntu-br
[07:33] <NoUse> luiz you need a /
[07:33] <NoUse> luiz /join #ubuntu-br
[07:33] <Maniqui> hi, I have been asking about making NTFS writeable from Ubuntu Linux  and have reading the FAQs at linux-ntfs.org
[07:33] <Maniqui> but I cant conclude if it's safe or note
[07:33] <Maniqui> or not
[07:33] <NoUse> Maniqui its not
[07:33] <Maniqui> oh :(
[07:34] <Maniqui> not even for write simple mp3 metadata ? :D
[07:34] <monomaniacpat> Anyone know anything about dual monitors?
[07:34] <NoUse> Maniqui nope
[07:34] <Maniqui> ok. thanks NoUse
[07:34] <NoUse> heeeehoooowwwww if you ask a question, we'll find out if we can help
[07:34] <tuxmaniac> Any Chan Ops here?? Seveas  Modify the topic to contain "Dont ask to Ask" :)
[07:34] <pgquiles> maniqui http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org.nyud.net:8080/doku.php?id=ntfsmount
[07:35] <SixtyWatt> Hello, has anyone gotten a dwl-g122 usb wireless dongle to work with Ubuntu?
[07:36] <jouellette> IE is poopy....
[07:37] <Nikosgr> NoUse, i have a question
[07:37] <Maniqui> thanks pgquiles. In the same topic: I know future is unknow, but is there any goal to make NTFS writable more "safe"?
[07:37] <NoUse> Nikosgr ok
[07:37] <Nikosgr> i dit all that i just dont know if
[07:37] <Nikosgr> this worked oot@dell:~# nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:38] <Nikosgr> it gave some warnings
[07:38] <NoUse> Maniqui asking Microsoft to open the spec for the file system ;-)
[07:38] <NoUse> Nikosgr pastebin the error
[07:38] <NoUse> !tell Nikosgr about pastebin
[07:38] <Maniqui> ok. I have read they are closed and the driver has been made by reverse engineer...
[07:38] <simoor> fucking modem i have
[07:38] <g0dchild> modem blues?
[07:39] <simoor> i think its better i use my old modem and a usb2serial converter
[07:39] <g0dchild> tell me about it- just got my eagle-usb modem working after 2 days
[07:39] <pgquiles> maniqui captive-ntfs, but it's illegal
[07:39] <NoUse> !captiventfs
[07:39] <ubotu> NoUse: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:39] <NoUse> !captive-ntfs
[07:39] <ubotu> NoUse: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:39] <NoUse> !captive
[07:39] <ubotu> from memory, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[07:39] <simoor> scanmodem recognices the modem
[07:40] <Maniqui> danger! :D
[07:40] <usuario> jh
[07:40] <simoor> but no idea how to get it working
[07:40] <Nikosgr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13432
[07:40] <g0dchild> !mysql
[07:40] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:40] <NoUse> Nikosgr do what the message suggest, go into that file and change nv to nvidia
[07:41] <monomaniacpat> anyone know how to switch monitors once ubuntu is loaded on a laptop?
[07:42] <simoor> haha u have same problerm as i
[07:42] <clayton> in ubuntu do i have to install ati drivers?
[07:42] <NoUse> monomaniacpat I've always done that through the laptop Fn key
[07:42] <g0dchild> can someone explain to me why i cant see wiki.ubuntu pages on opera or konqueror for that matter?
[07:42] <NoUse> clayton only if you want 3D support
[07:42] <monomaniacpat> NoUse: If I do that I get a big static image on the screen. I can only switch properly during booting
[07:42] <simoor> when i use the Fn-Switch on the hardware the monitors show nothing with sense
[07:42] <clayton> NoUse how do i install it? :)
[07:42] <NoUse> !tell clayton about ati
[07:43] <Nikosgr>         Driver          "nv"
[07:43] <Nikosgr> to this river          "nvidia"
[07:43] <Nikosgr> and restart X?
[07:43] <clayton> NoUse thanx!!
[07:43] <simoor> @ Nikogsr yes
[07:45] <Maniqui> ok, captive looks promising, but ubotu says it doesnt work properly on ubuntu :( wel... I will wait until someone says it's safe
[07:45] <monomaniacpat> no ideas?
[07:45] <scifi> whats the difference between root and sudo ?
[07:45] <monomaniacpat> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:45] <dooglus> scifi: root is an account, sudo is a command
[07:45] <usuario> hola
[07:45] <megatronao> hola
[07:46] <xvampirex> Hi
[07:46] <monomaniacpat> hello
[07:46] <hastesaver> scifi, you use sudo to become root (sort of)
[07:46] <xvampirex>  How do I mount an ntfs file system on ubuntu?
[07:46] <xvampirex>  (any easy way?)
[07:46] <scifi> dooglus: but i can do "blender" in terminal to execute it, or "sudo blender", so whats the difference ?
[07:46] <yeti> Still dying trying to get my display to display correctly
[07:46] <NoUse> !tell xvampirex about ntfs
[07:47] <clayton> hey whats the best media player for mp3?
[07:47] <NoUse> !players
[07:47] <xvampirex> thanks
[07:47] <ubotu> players is, like, totally, Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[07:47] <yeti> followed the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32043
[07:47] <NoUse> clayton its a matter of preference
[07:47] <yeti> get a compile error on the 915 driver
[07:47] <iocaste> clayton: i like banshee
[07:47] <NoUse> yeti Have you installed the build-essential package?
[07:47] <clayton> ok thanks yall
[07:48] <monomaniacpat> I use BMP, though its a bit cheap
[07:48] <yeti> NoUse, no, whats that?
[07:48] <NoUse> yeti the files you need to compile software
[07:48] <NoUse> yeti install it via synaptic
[07:49] <iocaste> yeti: or you could open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:49] <scifi> so "blender" is real root and "sudo blender" is just usr pretending to be root ?
[07:49] <yeti> i was able to install 1 driver, the common driver, but the 915 failed
[07:49] <dooglus> scifi: if you run 'blender', it runs as the current user.  if you do 'sudo blender', it runs as the root user
[07:49] <NoUse> yeti try installing build-essential before looking elsewhere for problems
[07:50] <scifi> ok
[07:50] <monomaniacpat> Anyone know how to switch monitors once ubuntu is loaded (no, fn doesn't work)
[07:50] <yeti> installing build essienatals now......
[07:51] <yeti> Compiling...
[07:51] <yeti> ERROR: Kernel modules did not compile
[07:51] <carlos-the-man> I just installed apache2, how can I start the process?
[07:51] <carlos-the-man> hi all :D
[07:52] <NoUse> yeti pastebin the error
[07:52] <NoUse> !tell yeti about pastebin
[07:52] <hastesaver> carlos-the-man, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[07:54] <yeti> pasted in Pastebin
[07:54] <NoUse> yeti the url please
[07:54] <yeti> sorry - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13433
[07:54] <Poker> hello...is there any peer to peer program for linux ?
[07:54] <baizon> hi, howto install a *.deb file from the hard drive?
[07:54] <yeti> thanks for the help NoUse
[07:55] <bluefoxicy> Poker:  gtk-gnutella
[07:55] <bluefoxicy> Poker:  please don't steal music.
[07:55] <NoUse> yeti have you looked at dri.log?
[07:55] <Poker> for sure
[07:55] <vab> Hey what's the tty program in ubuntu?  I need to config a SAN over serial.
[07:55] <bluefoxicy> ubotu, p2p
[07:55] <ubotu> I heard p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[07:55] <Hexidigital> ubotu, tell poker about frostwire
[07:55] <monomaniacpat> Anyone know how to switch monitors once ubuntu is loaded (no, fn doesn't work)?
[07:55] <GreatBriton> how can i have both nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings installed in synaptic?
[07:55] <mjr> incidentally, while I don't think this channel should support illegal copying, calling it "stealing" is misleading at best
[07:55] <M3ATW0D> Anyone here familar with SunRay's on Ubuntu and can offer help? Specifically keyboard issues.
[07:56] <Stormx2`> How do I get support for .rm files without install real player?
[07:56] <Poker> oki thanks
[07:56] <NoUse> GreatBriton select them and then install them? are you having a problem installing them?
[07:56] <yeti> i just pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13434
[07:56] <GreatBriton> yeah
[07:56] <baizon> Stormx2`: MPlayer, VLC
[07:57] <baizon> hi, howto install a *.deb (which apt command) file from the hard drive?
[07:57] <GreatBriton> NoUse: i've selected nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernal-common, but if i try to install nvidia-settings, it says it has to uninstall nvidia-glx :/
[07:57] <Poker> another question... do you know a good avi player?
[07:57] <hastesaver> baizon, dpkg -i <debfile>
[07:57] <M3ATW0D> Anyone here familar with SunRay's on Ubuntu and can offer help? Specifically keyboard issues.
[07:57] <baizon> Poker: MPLayer || VLC
[07:57] <Stormx2`> baizon: They won't play it. I need codecs.
[07:58] <hastesaver> baizon, but it's usually better to apt-get it from one of the repos, instead of getting your own debfile (you probably already know this, sorry)
[07:58] <baizon> then download the codecs
[07:58] <vab> what do you guys use for serial access?
[07:58] <hastesaver> Stormx2`, apt-get install w32codecs should do
[07:58] <Stormx2`> What gstreamer plugins do I need to play real video (ram)
[07:58] <NoUse> yeti install gcc-3.4 and g++-3.4 and then before you run the command to compile your drivers run 'EXPORT CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4"
[07:58] <M3ATW0D> ubuntu -- sunrays -- need help
[07:59] <Stormx2`> hastesaver: Installed already
[07:59] <srecko2> is it better to use mesa or ati drivers?
[07:59] <hastesaver> Stormx2`, see if mplayer plays it then
[07:59] <NoUse> !tell GreatBriton about nvidia
[07:59] <NoUse> GreatBriton follow the instructions on the wiki
[08:00] <yeti> NoUse, install gcc-3.4 and g++3.4 from Synaptic, and Export is a command?
[08:00] <Stormx2`> but I want to use VLC... I could before.
[08:00] <NoUse> yeti yes
[08:00] <yeti> thanx - d/l and installing
[08:01] <GreatBriton> NoUse: ty, will do
[08:01] <voyage34> anyone know of a decent guide for installing Wwebmin and LAMP on Ubuntu?
[08:01] <yeti> ok, it compiled
[08:02] <srecko2> voyage: for Lampp just follow the suide on their site, it's so simple
[08:02] <srecko2> suide = guide
[08:02] <srecko2> for webwin not sure ....
[08:02] <voyage34> k
[08:02] <yeti> now I need to restart X - control-alt-backspace?
[08:02] <hastesaver> voyage34, why do you need a guide? apt-get install webmin will install webmin, etc...
[08:02] <Hexidigital> yeti, yes
[08:03] <yeti> all right - back in a min
[08:03] <voyage34> have had problems trying it like that
[08:03] <voyage34> wants a root user
[08:03] <voyage34> that was in the past though.. does it work now?
[08:04] <hastesaver> voyage34, it seemed to work for me (but I've enabled the root account...)
[08:05] <voyage34> k thanks
[08:05] <voyage34> I'll giv eit a shot
[08:05] <kodos742> hi all, does anyone know how i could use thunderbird to read my mail instead of mail or mutt programs?
[08:05] <baizon> hastesaver: thx, it works :)
[08:06] <hastesaver> baizon, yw
[08:06] <gnomefreak> kodos742: start with sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[08:06] <firebird619> I have a TV Tuner that also has an FM tuner on it. So far I have been using gradio, but is there a program that allows you to record from the radio and save it to the hard drive.
[08:07] <mustard5> kodos742, I assume you mean your local system mail?
[08:07] <kodos742> i have thunderbird installed, i tried setting up a pop acc. with localhost as server but when i try to check mail i get localhost: connection refused. not a firewall isssue.
[08:08] <mustard5> kodos742, I'm not exactly sure of the 'how' part, but I'm pretty sure its possible
[08:08] <mustard5> kodos742, what other options do you have for the incoming server?
[08:08] <hastesaver> kodos742, to read your local mail or mail from some pop server (such as gmail) ?
[08:08] <M3ATW0D> Anyone here familar with SunRay's on Ubuntu and can offer help? Specifically keyboard issues.
[08:08] <Maniqui> ops! help needed: I have done some suggested auto-updates, and now, when I reebot, GRUB doesnt offer me to boot in Windows!
[08:09] <yeti> well, I think I am getting closer
[08:09] <kodos742> hasteserver: not a remote server, the message which i see when i type 'mail' or 'mutt' at terminal
[08:09] <Maniqui> it only offers me to boot in Ubuntu
[08:09] <yeti> name of display: :0.0
[08:09] <yeti> i915 DRI driver expected DDX version 1-1.5.x but got version 1.4.0
[08:09] <gnomefreak> Maniqui: ?
[08:10] <kodos742> mustard: i'm using mostly the default settings except server name, username etc
[08:10] <Maniqui> gnomefreak: I have both Ubuntu and Windows installed in my machine
[08:10] <Hexidigital> Maniqui:: you don't need to call an operator for that
[08:10] <Maniqui> I didnt call any operator!
[08:10] <gnomefreak> Maniqui: dont say ops with a ! on neither side
[08:10] <Maniqui> oh, ops ! (it's an spanish interjection)
[08:10] <Maniqui> sorry!
[08:10] <gnomefreak> Maniqui: im skimming the channel and i saw that
[08:10] <mustard5> kodos742, I don't think the POP option will work anyway.  I'm not sure what other options are given with Thunderbird, as I use Evolution myself
[08:11] <Maniqui> back to my problem: after upgrading (dont know what because it was an update suggested by Ubuntu)), GRUB boot screen only shows Ubuntu
[08:12] <KerneL-P> Any help on loading firmware via hotplug?
[08:12] <newbie33> how to explore internet using console, not x_window?
[08:12] <KerneL-P> newbie33 you can use links or lynx
[08:12] <kodos742> yeah that's a good point mustard. i setup courier-imap which i can connect to and authenticate successfully but no messages are going to that inbox. i need to read some more about the setup of
[08:12] <gnomefreak> newbie33: w3m
[08:12] <monomaniacpat> Anyone know how to switch monitors once ubuntu is loaded (no, fn doesn't work)?
[08:12] <gnomefreak> its pre installed ;)
[08:13] <Maniqui> I remember some time ago I edit a file to tell GRUB to list first the Windows option and then the Ubuntu option, but cant remember where
[08:13] <gnomefreak> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:13] <gnomefreak> ^^^ Maniqui
[08:13] <KerneL-P> Anyone knows a little about hotpluggin firmware for wireless nics? (Intel 2011B with no firmware onboard)
[08:14] <blasph> the url in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75272 to get azureus doesn't work. anyone got another source?
[08:14] <yeti> does anyone know what this means?
[08:14] <yeti> i915 DRI driver expected DDX version 1-1.5.x but got version 1.4.0
[08:14] <mustard5> kodos742, I wonder if maybe the Thunderbird webpage might have some guide or something
[08:14] <Maniqui> thanks gnomefreak. I'm a newbie and I would like to know what happened after that update, that GRUB doesnt offer me to boot in Windows... :(
[08:14] <NoUse> !tell blasph about azureus
[08:14] <gnomefreak> !azureus
[08:14] <ubotu> methinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:15] <gnomefreak> Maniqui: i dont know what you updated
[08:15] <newbie33> where to find SunOS users chan on this server?
[08:15] <mustard5> kodos742, I just use mutt atm for my local system mail :)
[08:15] <g0dchild> is there a note-daemon for gnome?
[08:15] <gnomefreak> mustard5: most of the times the (mail server) has info on how to set them up
[08:15] <NoUse> yeti you might try remove the xserver-xorg-driver-i810 package
[08:15] <Maniqui> me neither. It was one of those "auto-updates" suggested by Ubuntu. I think it was the kernel. :(
[08:15] <mustard5> kodos742, just checking out evolution it seems to have some options for local mail
[08:15] <voraistos> hey guys, i cant setup a samba server for sum reason, can u help ?
[08:15] <gnomefreak> mustard5: like for gmail it lists like 10 different email cleints and how to set up
[08:16] <hastesaver> newbie33, you can also try elinks
[08:16] <woodsman> hello: I updated breezy.  I use a dual video card running 2 monitors.  After updating I cannot start Xserver.  I tried the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" but xserver still wouldn't start. anyhelp would be appreciated
[08:16] <mustard5> gnomefreak, yeah he wants his local system mail...ie localhost@localdomain
[08:16] <blasph> thx NoUse
[08:16] <Maniqui> gnomefreak: ok. I'm looking at my /boot/grub/menu.lst and I can see that the windows entry isnt there anymore. The update seems to overwrite it.
[08:16] <gnomefreak> i think thunderbird does that but dont remember
[08:17] <bunjee> how do I get a compression tool for ubuntu?
[08:17] <kodos742> i will have a look at evolution...
[08:17] <voraistos> woodsman: what is your graphic card, and your config ?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> Maniqui: sounds like a kernel update
[08:17] <gnomefreak> a bad one
[08:17] <yeti> removing the 810 driver in Synaptec wants to delete X
[08:17] <woodsman> matrox G400 milenium
[08:17] <newbie33> is here any universal console comand for browsing internet? Id like tu use it on diferent shells
[08:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Maniqui about grub
[08:18] <ubuntulnx> does anyone know if the server install of breezy supports wifi as the normal desktop distro?
[08:18] <bunjee> I need to uncompress a tgz file
[08:18] <voraistos> woodsman: and your xserver config? extended desktop?
[08:18] <Maniqui> ok, thanks gnomefreak. I will try to add those geeky lines manually...
[08:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bunjee about tar
[08:18] <bunjee> what's tar?
[08:18] <mustard5> hey kodos742 I have a link :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113796&highlight=thunderbird+local+mail
[08:18] <woodsman> xorg.conf running 2 monitors
[08:18] <mustard5> kodos742, found it in the forums ;)
[08:18] <gnomefreak> bunjee: read the pm ubotu sent you
[08:18] <voraistos> give it to me
[08:18] <yeti> uboto tell newbie33 about lynx
[08:19] <kodos742> thanks mustard
[08:19] <newbie33> rkz@tyla:~$ lynx
[08:19] <newbie33> bash: lynx: command not found
[08:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell newbie33 -about lynx
[08:19] <newbie33> wtf?
[08:19] <hastesaver> newbie33, install it if it isn't installed
[08:19] <gnomefreak> newbie33: command would be lynx www.blah blah.com
[08:20] <iocaste> newbie
[08:20] <KerneL-P> newbie33 apt-get install lynx
[08:20] <gnomefreak> newbie33: you have to install it
[08:20] <voraistos> woodsman: send me your file, and tell me, what is your kernel ?
[08:20] <newbie33> ok
[08:20] <iocaste> newbie33: sudo apt-get install lynx
[08:20] <newbie33> sorry
[08:20] <gnomefreak> w3m is the only text browser that is preinstalled
[08:20] <bunjee> gnomefreak - what is pm? & who is ubotu?
[08:20] <newbie33> I know how to make install :)
[08:20] <woodsman> how do I send you the file?
[08:20] <newbie33> w3m worked but isnt fun
[08:20] <hastesaver> newbie33, you can also try w3m and elinks
[08:20] <hastesaver> newbie33, elinks is the best, IMHO
[08:20] <gnomefreak> !tar
[08:21] <iocaste> newbie33: or use synaptic
[08:21] <tuxmaniac> ubotu is a person in here!
[08:21] <ubotu> tuxmaniac: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:21] <ubuntulnx> does anyone know if the server install of breezy supports wifi as the normal desktop distro?
[08:21] <voraistos> woodsman: with pastebin, or right click on my username
[08:21] <gnomefreak> !+tar
[08:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, tar is ,TAR archives ,in the GUI use 'FileRoller' for all your extraction needs, to extract tar archives from the command line 'tar -xf <file.tar>' or if they are gzipped/bz2zipped use 'tar -xzf <file.tar.gz> '  or  'tar -xjf <flie.tar.bz2> '  respectivly.  'man tar' for more info.
[08:21] <Hexidigital> anyone know if the new Dell Inspiron B120 wireless chipset works with Ubuntu Dapper yet? (or if it is scheduled to be compatible by EdgyEft release?)
[08:21] <gnomefreak> ^^^ bunjee read that
[08:21] <Maniqui> a newbie question: when I use a command like "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup", the terminal keeps "locked" and I cant execute any other command until I close  (or ctrl + c) the actual gedit process
[08:21] <newbie33> pages with lynx looks terible, w3m much better guys
[08:22] <Maniqui> is that ok? do i need to open another terminal to execute other commands?
[08:22] <mustard5> Maniqui, yes
[08:22] <bunjee> I did - will try to figure it out later, thanx!
[08:22] <KerneL-P> newbie33 then use w3m :D depends what you need it for
[08:22] <gnomefreak> newbie33: use whatever one you like best
[08:22] <mustard5> Maniqui, that first terminal is running the gedit application, so it will be tied up
[08:22] <iocaste> maniqui: try: gedit file.txt & disown
[08:22] <voraistos> woodsman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:22] <mustard5> iocaste, hmm interesting :)
[08:22] <newbie33> is any browser can show a gif images?
[08:23] <Maniqui> thanks mustard5 and iocastle
[08:23] <gnomefreak> newbie33: yeah firefox
[08:23] <Hexidigital> lol
[08:23] <newbie33> :)
[08:23] <voraistos> woodsman; and then just gimme the URL
[08:23] <hastesaver> iocaste, what's disown for? just putting the & at the end is enough, right?
[08:23] <gnomefreak> links2 -g can also but either way you need a gui type browser iirc
[08:24] <gnomefreak> mustard5: nope why would there be i thought it was a parameter not a commadn
[08:24] <DarKnesS_WolF> how to know if XGL is installed in dapper ? i done a server installation and bulding what i need .
[08:24] <KerneL-P> anyone know anything about hotplugging firmware please pm me.
[08:24] <bunjee> install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz........how do I execute this?
[08:24] <crimsun> mustard5: it's a shell built-in
[08:24] <mustard5> gnomefreak, I have no idea :)
[08:24] <mustard5> ah ok
[08:24] <gnomefreak> DarKnesS_WolF: #ubuntu+1 should beable to help you with that
[08:25] <gnomefreak> bunjee: dont need to
[08:25] <gnomefreak> bunjee:  see the following post
[08:25] <gnomefreak> !flash
[08:25] <bunjee> don't need to what?
[08:25] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:25] <Hexidigital> DarKnesS_WolF:: start xgl
[08:25] <ubuntulnx> does anyone know if the server install of breezy supports wifi as the normal desktop distro?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> bunjee: use that link to install flash
[08:25] <bunjee> ok
[08:26] <gnomefreak> bunjee: btw are you on a ppc or 64bit kernel?
[08:26] <emsko> i have a dell laptop and ubuntu 5.10 and for some reason the sound icon in the top right corner always says that the sound is muted, even when it's not. Any ideas?
[08:27] <bunjee> ppc
[08:27] <Maniqui> gnomefreak, you said: >	sounds like a kernel update, a bad one
[08:27] <Hexidigital> !ftp
[08:27] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[08:27] <gnomefreak> bunjee: than you can stop
[08:27] <bunjee> what is a ppc
[08:27] <Hexidigital> anyone know how to fix the "group nobody" problem in proftpd?
[08:27] <voraistos> mac
[08:27] <emsko> power pc
[08:27] <emsko> old mac
[08:27] <gnomefreak> bunjee: what does uname -r say when typed in terminal
[08:29] <bunjee> like I said - I am brand new at this
[08:29] <gnomefreak> bunjee: type uname -r in terminal
[08:29] <bunjee>  how do I get too a terminal? alt, f2?
[08:29] <jtd> is anyone here familiar with squirrelmail?  I followed the directions as shown here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Squirrelmail but squirrelmail has apparently made no changes at all to my webroot.  there's just nothing there.
[08:29] <apokryphos> bunjee: gnome-terminal
[08:29] <gnomefreak> bunjee: applications>accessoiries>terminal
[08:30] <voraistos> or Ctrl ALT F1
[08:30] <hastesaver> voraistos, that's evil; they wouldn't know how to get back
[08:30] <gnomefreak> lets try to keep him with gui
[08:30] <M3ATW0D> can anyone offer some help with sunray's
[08:30] <voraistos> with Ctrl Alt F7 !!!
[08:31] <gnomefreak> voraistos: hes really new
[08:31] <jtd> is there any way to see what files belong to a package?
[08:31] <antonin> hhh
[08:31] <emsko> anyone familiar with dvd::rip ?
[08:31] <voraistos> yep, and i am too, but i think thats sooo cool
[08:31] <mustard5> emsko, so sound works when it is showing muted?
[08:31] <M3ATW0D> i'm having a keyboard issue with gdm
[08:31] <bunjee> uname -r..........2.6.12-10-386
[08:31] <emsko> mustard5, yes. I have to get it really loud before the red "x" disappears
[08:32] <gnomefreak> bunjee: ok go get the flash for i386
[08:32] <gnomefreak> !flash
[08:32] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:32] <gnomefreak> ^^from there
[08:32] <mustard5> emsko, hmmm strange problem
[08:32] <emsko> but at relatively low volume it still shows as muted
[08:32] <bunjee> ok - will do some more searching - have to go shopping for daughters party - will chat later adios!!
[08:33] <moro858> good evening
[08:33] <moro858> I' m an italian boy
[08:33] <MisterN> moro858: so?
[08:34] <moro858> and this is the first time that I come here
[08:34] <schizoschaf> hi
[08:34] <mustard5> moro858, welcome :)
[08:34] <emsko> mustard5, the icon only begins to show that the volume is on when I drag the volume scrollbar a third of the way up
[08:34] <moro858> this is the official irc chat of ubuntu?
[08:34] <schizoschaf> is there a quick way to restore the out of the box smb.conf?
[08:34] <woodsman> voraistos  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13435
[08:34] <emsko> so it considers 1% - around 30% of the maximum volume to be "muted"
[08:34] <mustard5> emsko, its got me bamboozled...I've never seen that problem :)
[08:34] <emsko> :p
[08:35] <emsko> figures i'm the one who's got it
[08:35] <mustard5> hehe
[08:35] <nicaizhang> what
[08:35] <jtd> moro858: yup
[08:35] <nicaizhang> hello!
[08:36] <jtd> Can someone tell me how to find out where apt put the files from a package?
[08:36] <jtd> I feel like it's an apt-cache function but I can't find it in the manpages
[08:36] <crimsun> jtd: dpkg -L package
[08:36] <speyer> why my ubuntu start getting crazy after a couple of days running ? if i click on a icon ... its just disappear
[08:36] <jtd> thanks crimsun
[08:37] <speyer> any ideea ?
[08:37] <voraistos> woodsman: what kind of update was it before it crashed ?
[08:37] <moro858> who can help me with some questions?
[08:37] <hastesaver> moro858, ask the question(s) first :)
[08:37] <chapium> For anyone else, does gnome seem slow?  It just doesnt feel... "snappy".  For example, when you bring a window to focus, it seems to take a moment to refresh what is shown.
[08:37] <mustard5> moro858, it depends on the question
[08:38] <|lostbyte|> moro858: Ask :) SOmeone with know.
[08:38] <schizoschaf> chapium you will notice a difference when comparing to xfce
[08:38] <woodsman> voraistos: I did "apt-get update"  then "apt-get upgrade"
[08:38] <speyer> chapium i will go for kde now .. i just had gnome for a couple of mounts
[08:38] <moro858> what is the latest version of kernel that I can install on ubuntu 5.10 ?????
[08:38] <chapium> schizoschaf: yeah
[08:38] <|lostbyte|> schizoschaf: xfce is based on gtk or qt ?
[08:38] <chapium> schizoschaf: compared to xfce or windows even
[08:39] <chapium> schizoschaf: gtk
[08:39] <voraistos> woodsman: yea, but what did it do ?
[08:39] <schizoschaf> |lostbyte|, im not sure, i guess they have something own
[08:39] <schizoschaf> ok
[08:39] <mustard5> moro858, I assume I have the latest...mine is 2.6.12-10-386
[08:39] <roniez> hm.. why do i need to use the cdrom to install apache?
[08:39] <voraistos> woodsman: and the file you sent me seems completly normal, but for one screen only ?!
[08:40] <hastesaver> moro858, 2.6.12-10-386 is installed on mine
[08:40] <chapium> I actually prefer gnome to kde, sans the laggy windows
[08:40] <ahmuck_jr> anyone using cacti on ubuntu ?
[08:40] <|lostbyte|> schizoschaf: ok
[08:40] <mpmc> Is it normal for linux to use/cache most (if not all) of my RAM ?
[08:40] <chapium> is this something that xgl fixes?
[08:40] <jazzanova> hi
[08:40] <warreng> so theoretically if i overwrote my libc6 package with an empty libc6 package... and now i have no libc6 anything....... how can i fix it?
[08:40] <schizoschaf> chapium, the new gnome feels faster to me, but i can't quantify it
[08:40] <jazzanova> I need to upgrade to udev > 0.57, i have 0.50. How can I do that ?
[08:40] <woodsman> voraistos:  it updgraded about 70 programs and such on my computer to the latest version.
[08:41] <warreng> can i boot off of a cd
[08:41] <voraistos> woodsman: was there a kernel update ?
[08:41] <woodsman>  voraistos:  I'm not sure as I really didn't check what was updated
[08:41] <gnomefreak> voraistos: for breezy yes there was
[08:41] <mustard5> jazzanova, what is your current version of ubuntu?  Breezy?
[08:42] <crimsun> warreng: boot a live cd, download the libc6 deb, mount the fubar fs, and use ar to extract the libc6 deb into the proper place on your fubar fs
[08:42] <warreng> crimsun: "ar" ?
[08:42] <crimsun> warreng: yes, ar.
[08:42] <kodos752> tried evolution mustard, thinks its a better choice :0
[08:43] <crimsun> debs are just ars.
[08:43] <jazzanova> mustard5: how do I check.
[08:43] <mustard5> jazzanova, try   cat /etc/issue
[08:43] <voraistos> woodsman: as far as i can see it, this is a configuration for one dsplay only, using the "mga" driver
[08:43] <jazzanova> Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog"
[08:43] <mustard5> kodos742, yeah ..seems to be easier from what I read in the thread..less of a 'hack'
[08:43] <voraistos> woodsman; make sure this driver exists
[08:44] <mustard5> jazzanova, you could see what version of udev they have in Breezy and possibly upgrade your system to Breezy
[08:44] <mpmc> Should I upgrade or stay with breezy? for the time being?
[08:44] <jazzanova> is my system very old?
[08:44] <mustard5> jazzanova, you are running an older version of ubuntu
[08:44] <jazzanova> ok.
[08:44] <voraistos> woodsman: i am sorry, i am not a matrox guy, but make sure the driver is the one u need for your graphic card
[08:44] <woodsman> voraistos: yes I know it is for 1 display.   I'm hoping to get one running and after that I can figure out how to get the other one running again
[08:44] <jazzanova> i should upgrade then.
[08:44] <mustard5> jazzanova, just one version back from the current
[08:44] <jazzanova> how do I upgrade ?
[08:44] <mustard5> jazzanova, yeah..I have  a link for that
[08:44] <mustard5> !breezy
[08:44] <ubotu> Breezy is the current stable version of Ubuntu. If you would like to upgrade to it, the guide to upgrading to Breezy is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:44] <warreng> crimsun: if theoretically i couldn't run any processes because i have no libc.... what would man tell me about "ar"? does it just take a .deb and install it?
[08:45] <kodos752> does anyone know anything about configuring courier-imap? I'm trying to setup an imap server
[08:45] <mustard5> jazzanova, see the link from ubotu?
[08:45] <jazzanova> thanks a lot
[08:45] <jazzanova> yes
[08:45] <jazzanova> I will upgrade now.
[08:45] <kbrooks> warreng: no, it extracts
[08:45] <mustard5> jazzanova, k
[08:45] <voraistos> woodsman: what does your xserver say when it crashes ?
[08:45] <crimsun> warreng: ar is a tool for managing archives (hence 'ar'). A debian package (deb) is just an ar archive with metadata.
[08:46] <woodsman> I had everything running great before upgrade.   If it installed a new kernel do I need to reconfigure which modules are loaded for the new kernel even though tey were set up for old kernel?
[08:46] <warreng> crimsun: so if i used ar to extract the libc .deb, would it update my dpkg database with the new package?
[08:46] <mikeo1> how do i find my keyboard model in system- preferences - keyboard?
[08:46] <mikeo1> none are listed
[08:46] <kbrooks> warreng: no. all ar does is EXTRACT
[08:46] <crimsun> warreng: the appropriate flag to use with ar is 'x' (for extract). No, it won't touch dpkg at all. It only extracts the file. Think tar.
[08:47] <jivah> hello all
[08:47] <warreng> crimsun: ok.. i'll start with that.. thanks
[08:47] <woodsman> voraistos: i can't check it right now because I'm running off of knoppix cd on the computer
[08:47] <voraistos> woodsman: possibly, but strange. use a standard driver to get back to xserver
[08:48] <jivah> i have a problem with my shell
[08:48] <woodsman> voraistos: is there a log file I could get that info from?
[08:48] <jedir0x> high-freq, I'm trying the following guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70428 to install java 1.5 on my newly installed ubuntu (Breezy Badger, 5.x).  However, I'm unable to locate the package "java-package"... i've enabled the extra repositories to no avail.  Any clues? or perhaps alternate ways of installing java 1.5?
[08:48] <mustard5> woodsman, what graphics drivers?
[08:48] <gnomefreak> jivah: please explain further
[08:48] <voraistos> woodsman: yea. try to use a damn VGA driver, so u can get back to graphics on your system, and see real time what is going on
[08:49] <voraistos> for the log, i have no idea where it cou;d be
[08:49] <gnomefreak> woodsman: try the vesa driver in xorgs config
[08:49] <jivah> gnomefreak, well when i try to be a su root, it failed
[08:49] <gnomefreak> jivah: su is disabled in ubuntu   ubuntu uses sudo
[08:49] <yaaar> word
[08:49] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jivah about root
[08:49] <jivah> ahh
[08:50] <gnomefreak> jivah: read teh pm ubotu sent you
[08:50] <voraistos> if you need to, there is a way to activate root
[08:50] <r0xoR> does ubuntu have an auto log off feature by default?
[08:50] <r0xoR> i keep coming back to my machine and i've been logged out automatically
[08:50] <gnomefreak> voraistos: please dont suggest that
[08:50] <woodsman> voraistos: ok I will give this a try   thanks folks.
[08:50] <venox> you can use `sudo su` to use the root account :)
[08:50] <method|> i have a laptop and when i touch the touchpad in a certain way horizontally it moves windows, causes my browser to go back or to another misc. website, switches desktops, etc. How can I disable this?
[08:51] <yaaar> is there any way to make spatial nautilus not leave windows behind everywhere i go? i just want to progress through the filesystem in one window (which would change size/properties the way the spatial windows come up) but not end up with a window leftover for each subdirectory
[08:51] <yaaar> (i'm on dapper)
[08:51] <gnomefreak> yaaar: why didnt you ask in #ubuntu+1?
[08:51] <r0xoR> method|, i don't know that there is a way... there might be a kernel level driver that you can remove that will keep those features from working
[08:51] <jedir0x> high-freq, I'm trying the following guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70428 to install java 1.5 on my newly installed ubuntu (Breezy Badger, 5.x).  However, I'm unable to locate the package "java-package"... i've enabled the extra repositories to no avail.  Any clues? or perhaps alternate ways of installing java 1.5?
[08:52] <kbrooks> yaaar: use browser mode.
[08:52] <njan> gnomefreak, because it isn't a dapper-specific issue, properly
[08:52] <yaaar> kbrooks: uh, yeah......
[08:52] <tdn> How do I convert a wave PCM file to mp3 or ogg fast in ubuntu from console?
[08:52] <kbrooks> yaaar: *FINDING*
[08:52] <yaaar> kbrooks: note the first sentence...."any way to make SPATIAL nautilus..."
[08:53] <crimsun> tdn: look at gst-launch-0.8 (breezy) or gst-launch-0.10 (dapper)
[08:53] <crimsun> tdn: or use lame, or ...
[08:53] <blasph> what's the easy way to get my firefox to support java?
[08:53] <mustard5> jedir0x, you could try the instructions at this URL https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:53] <AnAnt> why is the 'realplayer' package in synaptics an old (non-working) one ? yet in the Ubuntu help they provide a URL for realplayer-10, I mean, why isn't realplayer-10 in Ubuntu's repos ?
[08:53] <kbrooks> yaaar: just don't use it.
[08:53] <hastesaver> blasph, the same goes for you --  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:54] <tdn> crimsun, ok. Apt-get install what for lame?
[08:54] <yaaar> kbrooks: surely you don't really, honestly consider that answering the question, do you?
[08:54] <NoUse> AnAnt ones a version of ubuntu has been released, packages aren't changed unless it is a security fix
[08:54] <selinium> yaaar, here is a setting that allows you to use the same window. I'll try and find it..
[08:54] <AnAnt> tdn: apt-get install lame (I think)
[08:54] <NoUse> AnAnt check what version is in dapper: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:54] <kbrooks> yaaar: i do not have an answer to stopping spatial nautilus from leaving redundant windows behind
[08:54] <blasph> thx hastesaver
[08:55] <AnAnt> NoUse: the one that is in the repos is not working, it requires a 'xlibs' package, which doesn't exist
[08:55] <tdn> AnAnt, ok. Thanks.
[08:55] <g0dchild> can someone please help me to install amarok-1.3.9 :S
[08:56] <kbrooks> g0dchild: uh. did you download it from the site?
[08:56] <g0dchild> yeah, i have the source i downloaded from arhives.ubuntu.com.
[08:56] <NoUse> !info xlibs
[08:56] <ubotu> xlibs: (X Window System client library transitional package), section libs, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 284 kB
[08:56] <NoUse> AnAnt yeah it is
[08:56] <Poker> ubotu, p2p
[08:56] <ubotu> I guess p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[08:57] <g0dchild> kbrooks, Problem is it wont compile- first, i compiled without gstreamer- which i think needs to be compiled
[08:57] <jtd> is anyone here familiar with squirrelmail?  I followed the directions as shown here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Squirrelmail but squirrelmail has apparently made no changes at all to my webroot.  there's just nothing there.  I think the installation process was supposed to link to something in /usr/share, so that Apache would go over there to do Squirrelmail, but I don't think that happened and I don't know how to set it up correctly
[08:57] <gnomefreak> AnAnt: no xlibs package in dapper
[08:57] <gnomefreak> this is why we have #ubuntu+1 ;) not everything is the same
[08:58] <gnomefreak> !find xlibs dapper
[08:58] <ubotu> xlibs-dev: (X Window System client library development files transitional package), section oldlibs, is extra. Version: 7.0.0-0ubuntu33 (dapper), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[08:58] <yaaar> selinium: thanks for the help. if you find it, let me know....but it'll prolly be a while before i see it, as i've got to leave and meet my lady friend for lunch
[08:58] <yaaar> thanks
[08:59] <NoUse> AnAnt its a known bug in dapper https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/realplayer/+bug/32738
[08:59] <hastesaver> g0dchild, do you want an even more recent version than in the "http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest breezy main" source? Because you can get that using apt-get, and it will be *much* easier
[08:59] <gnomefreak> AnAnt: install the xlibs-dev package
[08:59] <jdmpike> does anyone know how to help me trouble shoot my USB hub that no longer works?
[09:00] <jdmpike> dmesg can see that it is connected
[09:00] <blasph> hastesaver: I installed the blackdown java package and firefox still says it's missing the plugin. anything more I need to do?
[09:00] <jdmpike> [4294935.695000]  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3[4294935.825000]  hub 2-1:1.0: USB hub found
[09:00] <jdmpike> [4294935.827000]  hub 2-1:1.0: 4 ports detected
[09:00] <jdmpike> but when I plug things into it, nothing...
[09:00] <jtd> so what happens when you try to use it, jdmpike
[09:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jdmpike about pastebin
[09:00] <jtd> dmesg produces no results?
[09:01] <hastesaver> blasph, did you read through that page completely? There was a section on "Java in firefox" or something
[09:01] <jdmpike> gnomefreak, sorry
[09:01] <AnAnt> but even it is an old realplayer version (8), yet in the help they put URL for a new version (10), I was just wondering why it isn't in the repos
[09:01] <g0dchild> hastesaver, ah, i am sorry- i didnt try that easy-installation script from the website yet...had to go out- can you plase give it to me once more?
[09:01] <blasph> hastesaver: oops =x
[09:01] <jdmpike> gnomefreak, I thought three lines was within the limit
[09:01] <jedir0x> where's a good place to put my custom debs ?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> jdmpike: no pasting because 3 lines doesnt always add up to 3 lines
[09:01] <hastesaver> !tell godchild about easysource
[09:02] <jdmpike> gnomefreak, gotcha
[09:02] <mustard5> jdmpike, so what specifically is happening ?
[09:02] <|Sivik|> what is the command to start a gui?
[09:02] <r0xoR> how can i test whether esd is working?
[09:02] <yggdrasil> win ?
[09:03] <jdmpike> mustard5, I plug in my hub, dmesg recognizes it
[09:03] <jdmpike> mustard5, I plug devices into my hub - *nothing*
[09:03] <jtd> have you tried another hub?
[09:03] <mustard5> jdmpike, is it a powered hub?
[09:03] <jdmpike> mustard5, I plug those same devices into my USB port, still works
[09:03] <jdmpike> mustard5, yes, it is a powered hub
[09:04] <blasph> there we go, thanks hastesaver
[09:04] <hastesaver> blasph, yw
[09:04] <jdmpike> mustard5, dmesg recognizes the 4-ports of the hub
[09:04] <mustard5> jdmpike, yep
[09:05] <mustard5> jdmpike, nothing shows in the logs when you plug something in?
[09:05] <mustard5> jdmpike, other than the hub that is :)
[09:05] <voraistos> how can u people install Flash ? look at that:
[09:05] <voraistos> I: checking http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/...
[09:05] <voraistos> wrong adress ?!
[09:06] <g0dchild> hastesaver, by any chance it wouldnt mess up the system isnt it...and lead to haste? ;)
[09:06] <chaos_of_apocaly> people can you tell me how to configure the sound board in linux??because i dont hear a thing!!!
[09:06] <jtd> that's not an address, voraistos, you put an ellipse at the end of it
[09:06] <jdmpike> mustard5, yup - if I plug something into the usb ports it shows up in dmesg
[09:06] <voraistos> jtd: this is the log when i apt-get
[09:07] <jtd> apt-get?  what are you apt-getting?  what package name?
[09:07] <voraistos> jtd: wait up
[09:07] <mustard5> jdmpike, what are you plugging into the hub?
[09:07] <hastesaver> g0dchild, I don't think it will.. I was using it for a while with no problems
[09:07] <chaos_of_apocaly> people can you tell me how to configure the sound board in linux??because i dont hear a thing!!!
[09:07] <voraistos> jtd: flashplugin-nonfree
[09:08] <voraistos> jtd: same error with firefox
[09:08] <ajackson> chaos_of_apocaly: did you turn the volume up?
[09:08] <mustard5> chaos_of_apocaly, you haven't mentioned what soundcard you are using btw :)
[09:08] <chaos_of_apocaly> off course ajackson
[09:08] <webwolf_27> I want to create an apt repo on DVD, for my brother-in-law ( who does not yet have an internet connection ). I only need the i386 data. Can somebody give me a tip as to how to do this
[09:08] <chaos_of_apocaly> i will come back later now i have to go
[09:09] <mustard5> heh
[09:09] <jtd> voraistos: are you on Dapper?
[09:09] <voraistos> nope
[09:09] <_jason> webwolf_27: check this out, I've never actually done it, but ti seems to be what you want: http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[09:09] <emp__> is there a php5.0 pdf package for hoary?
[09:09] <jtd> you already did flashplayer-mozilla?
[09:09] <webwolf_27> _Jason, looking now
[09:10] <gnomefreak> !flash
[09:10] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:10] <voraistos> jtd. hum... let me check
[09:10] <hastesaver> emp,  what does php have to do with pdf? I don't undertand (or I'm ignorant)
[09:10] <gnomefreak> ^^ one command to run for flash
[09:10] <jtd> not according to the wiki, gnome
[09:10] <voraistos> jtd: yeah, but it is not there anymore for some reason
[09:11] <jtd> wait, nevermind
[09:11] <emp> hastesaver, there is a 'php-fpdf' package (it allows php to create pdf files) but this package is for php4 and not php5
[09:11] <jtd> what is not there anymore?
[09:11] <voraistos> "Package flashplayer-mozilla is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:11] <voraistos> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:11] <voraistos> is only available from another source
[09:11] <voraistos> "
[09:11] <NoUse> emp hoary is an older version of ubuntu, you might see if its in Breezy: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:11] <jtd> that doesn't make any sense.
[09:12] <voraistos> jtd: no
[09:12] <jtd> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla is what you do for Breezy
[09:12] <NoUse> !tell voraistos about repos
[09:12] <jtd> sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree and try again
[09:12] <jtd> ah, yes
[09:12] <jtd> you might not have added the correct repository
[09:12] <voraistos> jtd; and with firefox autoinstall, it just doesnt work either
[09:12] <jtd> make sure you have universe and multiverse added there
[09:13] <voraistos> and yes i have lots of repositories ;)
[09:13] <hastesaver> emp, Oh, I see. Ask the maintainer of the package, then? ;)
[09:13] <crimsun> no, flashplugin-nonfree is the _correct_ package. flashplayer-mozilla was removed from dapper because it's not legal for us to distribute the plugin in binary form from our repos.
[09:13] <NoUse> voraistos you don't have the right ones
[09:13] <jtd> crimsun: so the wiki is wrong?
[09:13] <jtd> also, we're talking Breezy, not Dapper
[09:13] <crimsun> jtd: the wiki should refer to flashplugin-nonfree in all instances.
[09:14] <jedir0x> so after installing java 1.5, when i issue "java -version" it shows 1.4... and the GNU java... how do i update the environment information... or remove the other java version?
[09:14] <voraistos> i have universe and multiverse, all the ubuntu stuff, sum dutch stuff as well
[09:14] <gnomefreak> ok it will be fixed
[09:14] <jtd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:14] <jtd> it doesn't.
[09:14] <gnomefreak> it will
[09:14] <NoUse> voraistos can you pastebin your sources.list?
[09:14] <jedir0x> so after installing java 1.5, when i issue "java -version" it shows 1.4... and the GNU java... how do i update the environment information... or remove the other java version?
[09:14] <jtd> is anyone here familiar with squirrelmail?  I followed the directions as shown here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Squirrelmail but squirrelmail has apparently made no changes at all to my webroot.  there's just nothing there.  I think the installation process was supposed to link to something in /usr/share, so that Apache would go over there to do Squirrelmail, but I don't think that happened and I don't know how to set it up correctly
[09:15] <voraistos> NoUse; where is it again ?
[09:15] <NoUse> !pastebin
[09:15] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:15] <voraistos> NoUse: the file, not paste bin ;)
[09:15] <gnomefreak> crimsun: what about the setup commadn?
[09:15] <NoUse> voraistos /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:15] <k0walsky> hi everybody
[09:15] <beligum> Hi all, I've got a small question regarding OpenGL changes from Breezy to Dapper
[09:16] <k0walsky> any italian supporter?
[09:16] <jeff303> how can I change what firefox considers  the "default" pdf application?  (this has nothing to do with mozplugger)
[09:16] <jedir0x> sweet
[09:16] <jedir0x> update-alternatives
[09:16] <crimsun> gnomefreak: for flashplugin-nonfree?
[09:16] <r0xoR> does ubuntu have a "system restore" type feature? wherein i can revert back to a previous filesystem state?
[09:17] <NoUse> r0xoR not that I know of
[09:17] <gnomefreak> crimsun: yes like the one for dapper?
[09:17] <r0xoR> oh well
[09:17] <voraistos> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13438
[09:17] <beligum> My program draws an OpenGL mesh (using a .obj file) and displays the model perfectly under Breezy. However, in Dapper, it's all messed up. Can someone tell me what changed in Dapper that could be the cause of this?
[09:17] <mdke> does anyone know how I can change a whole lot of files at the same time? I just wanna strip something out of a lot of filenames
[09:17] <crimsun> gnomefreak: dapper's package works fine; are you referring to breezy's not being able to contact the server?
[09:17] <mustard5> r0xoR, you would have to install some type of backup system
[09:17] <r0xoR> yeh, thought so
[09:18] <gnomefreak> crimsun: no i just changed the wiki but do i need to add sudo update-flashplugin for breezy/hoary?
[09:18] <hastesaver> k0walsky, if you mean italian speaker, try #ubuntu-it
[09:18] <crimsun> gnomefreak: it may be needed. I don't currently have a breezy system to test.
[09:18] <k0walsky> tanks
[09:18] <|Sivik|> command to start an xsession
[09:18] <NoUse> voraistos copy from this file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[09:19] <gnomefreak> jtd: try to install it as the wiki says now please and let me know
[09:19] <mustard5> |Sivik|, startx ?
[09:19] <gnomefreak> ty crimsun
[09:19] <|Sivik|> thats it
[09:19] <jtd> gnomefreak: wasn't me, it was voraistos :)
[09:19] <gnomefreak> ty jtd
[09:20] <voraistos> NoUse; u mean i have to replace the whole thing with that ?
[09:20] <gnomefreak> voraistos: try to install flash as it says on wiki now please and let me know if it works
[09:20] <voraistos> gnomefreak; ok i try that out
[09:21] <jtd> oooo.  Raytheon.  sessy.
[09:21] <voraistos> gnomefreak; which one ?
[09:21] <gnomefreak> voraistos: the one for breezy
[09:21] <voraistos> i have free flash flash, flash player standalone, etc ...?
[09:22] <gnomefreak> voraistos: run this command sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:22] <mdke> anyone?
[09:22] <voraistos> gnomefreak; i tried that
[09:22] <gnomefreak> voraistos: you have flash already?
[09:22] <mustard5> mdke, I missed the question
[09:22] <mdke> mustard5:
[09:22] <mdke> does anyone know how I can change a whole lot of files at the same time? I just wanna strip something out of a lot of filenames
[09:22] <voraistos> gnomefreak; i should, but it doesnt work !
[09:22] <mustard5> ah ok
[09:23] <gnomefreak> voraistos: did you restart the browser? (all of them)
[09:23] <mustard5> mdke, I don't know the command but I assume you would use awk or something
[09:23] <voraistos> yep, even the machine ;)
[09:23] <mdke> mustard5: I'll take a look
[09:23] <NoUse> voraistos did the apt-get command finish successfully?
[09:23] <zielony> Can you give me name of good downloader for linux, with resuming etc.  (No d4x plz )
[09:23] <hastesaver> mdke, what exactly do you want to? change files or only filenames?
[09:23] <mdke> hastesaver: just filenames.
[09:24] <voraistos> NoUse: one of them, yeah, but not the other one
[09:24] <hastesaver> mdke, and what kind of changes?
[09:24] <voraistos> let me check
[09:24] <mdke> hastesaver: stripping a few letters out of each of them.
[09:25] <NoUse> mdke you'd do that with bash scripting probably, but I don't know how
[09:25] <gnomefreak> voraistos: did you try sudo update-flashplugin
[09:25] <voraistos> no, i try that
[09:25] <hastesaver> mdke, ok, then as mustard5 said, something that can do regexes -- sed, awk, perl, ...
[09:25] <gnomefreak> voraistos: run that close all browsers than try
[09:25] <jtd> does anyone know how to make mail work with dyndns?
[09:25] <jtd> something about the MX record?
[09:26] <jtd> when I try to make the MX my machine it tells me it didn't resolve or resolved to a cname.
[09:26] <mdke> hastesaver: I don't know how to use any of those.
[09:26] <jeff303> does anyone know why evince is my default application/pdf handler in defaults.list, and in Nautilus, yet Firefox still thinks the default pdf app is gpdf?
[09:26] <voraistos> benjamin@ender:~$ sudo update-flashplugin
[09:26] <voraistos> Checking new upstream release...
[09:26] <voraistos> I: checking http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/...
[09:26] <voraistos> E: Unknown HTTP error: fpdownload.macromedia.com
[09:26] <voraistos> E: All failed.
[09:26] <hastesaver> mdke, could you give a concrete example of the change you want to make?
[09:26] <mustard5> mdke, neither do I unfortunately :)
[09:26] <NoUse> !tell voraistos about flood
[09:26] <gnomefreak> voraistos: dont paste in here
[09:26] <mustard5> mdke, I hear they are very useful though ;)
[09:26] <voraistos> sorry, i thougt that was small enough
[09:26] <gnomefreak> voraistos: thats what i was just told the flash site is down
[09:26] <voraistos> no
[09:27] <gnomefreak> adobe is messing up too
[09:27] <voraistos> just the adress is wrong
[09:27] <torvie> hi
[09:27] <mdke> hastesaver: OK. I have lots of files with different names, all containing the same letters "-nq8", which I want to replace with "".
[09:27] <mdke> i.e. nothing
[09:28] <mustard5> voraistos, the 'fp' part looks like it should be 'ftp'...
[09:28] <gnomefreak> voraistos: ok lets try the sever is not working properly
[09:28] <graft> hey, where libvisual0.2-plugins is at?
[09:28] <deb_> "Cannot find kernel config file". Does anybody know why this happens?
[09:28] <graft> it's recommended by some packages but doesn't seem to be in the repos...
[09:28] <mustard5> voraistos, but I'm probably wrong :)
[09:28] <hastesaver> mdke, echo "foo-nq8bar" | sed -e s/-nq8// prints foobar
[09:29] <mustard5> voraistos, I guess it stands for 'flashplayer' :P
[09:29] <mdke> hastesaver: but all the files have different names except for those letters. I need to do the same command on every file.
[09:29] <gnomefreak> mustard5: flash-plugin not player
[09:29] <hastesaver> mdke, so you would do something like: for i in *; do echo a=`"$i" | sed -e s/-nq8//`; mv $i $a; done
[09:30] <hastesaver> mdke, but be careful, I'm not very sure
[09:30] <mustard5> gnomefreak, ah :)
[09:30] <voraistos> yea, i once found the real adress, but it changed again sice
[09:30] <mdke> hastesaver: alright, thanks.
[09:30] <voraistos> since*
[09:30] <hastesaver> mdke, I think this works: for i in *; do echo a=`"$i" | sed -e s/-nq8//`; mv "$i" "$a"; done
[09:30] <jeff303> ok apparently firefox gets its default apps from /etc/mailcap ...bizzare
[09:30] <_jason> voraistos: download the tar.gz from the site, you can use the script on a local file
[09:31] <voraistos> not on the site either
[09:31] <_jason> voraistos: I have it, do you want a dcc?
[09:31] <g0dchild> can someone suggest an application with which I can keep tabs on the no. of MBytes transmitted/recieved?
[09:31] <voraistos> _jason: yeah !
[09:31] <ubuntuespa> ok
[09:31] <ciro> hi alll
[09:32] <mustard5> greetings ciro
[09:32] <ubuntuespa> muackksss
[09:32] <ciro> some days ago I created a new user deleting the other one created during installation ...
[09:32] <ciro> now I have some nig problems ...
[09:32] <_jason> voraistos: do you know how to run the script on the local file?
[09:32] <ciro> *big
[09:33] <voraistos> no :'(
[09:33] <richard> hello all
[09:33] <ciro> new used isn't able to open automatically cds and I can't burn cds
[09:33] <ciro> who can help me?
[09:33] <_jason> voraistos: sudo update-flashplugin /path/to/directory/CONTAINING/the/targz
[09:33] <jeff303> ciro: what do you want to do?  restore the old user's files?
[09:33] <jeff303> ciro, want to make the old user's homedir into your new homedir?
[09:33] <voraistos> _jason; thx ;)
[09:34] <richard> has any one managed to install english uk thesaurus in open office?
[09:34] <ciro> jeff303, I want new user can burn and open cds
[09:34] <ciro> now he's not able to do that
[09:34] <jeff303> ciro, what errors are you getting?
[09:34] <ciro> jeff303, wait 4 a while
[09:34] <mustard5> ciro, you might need to add the user to the group for the cdrom player
[09:35] <KiD|Vidjeuh> i can't boot from a cd on my computer, what do i need to do now ?
[09:35] <ciro> mustard5, I already did it
[09:35] <tarheel> change your bios settings
[09:35] <KiD|Vidjeuh> i have done that
[09:35] <ciro> jeff303, eject: unable to open `/dev/hdc'
[09:35] <mustard5> ciro, so it is showing the user in that group in /etc/group file?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> KiD|Vidjeuh: put cd in and reboot?
[09:35] <jeff303> ciro: /dev/hdc sounds like a hard drive to me
[09:36] <fantasai> can I switch a Debian-based system to Ubuntu without changing the core part of the OS (kernel, networking, etc)?
[09:36] <KiD|Vidjeuh> i have done that, but it always start windows
[09:36] <mustard5> jeff303, nah..its the cd drive
[09:36] <jeff303> mustard5, ok my mistake
[09:36] <[FN] Funstar> Hi there. My Dad always kills his Windows with Spyware, Trojans and so on. Because he is a noob on any OS (Windows, too) I thought I could install Linux on his machine. For this I am searching for a Linux where you can simply download an application from the web and install it with one click. As easy as on Windows. No compiling, no missing packets, just click and install. Is Ubuntu what I am searching for? Or is another Linux the better ch
[09:36] <gnomefreak> fantasai: no and if you do very good chance it wont run
[09:36] <ciro> jeff303, it appears me when I try to eject cdrom
[09:36] <gnomefreak> [FN] Funstar: you dont need spyware tools on linux
[09:36] <jeff303> ciro, hmm, I wonder if it works when you sudo?
[09:37] <tarheel> gentoo linux is the best distro
[09:37] <[FN] Funstar> gnomefreak, that's why I want to install Linux on his computer!
[09:37] <kwtm> [FN] Funstar: There are a number of Linux distro's that fit your needs.  At this point I would say Ubuntu probably has the most potential, and apparently the friendliest user discussion forum.
[09:37] <tarheel> but i like this ubuntu
[09:37] <JonBoon> funstar, ubuntu is probably the closest youre going to get
[09:37] <ciro> jeff303, I dont know because I try to eject the cdrom by clickin on the cdrom desktop icon with the right click/eject
[09:37] <_jason> voraistos: I messed up the syntax, you want update-flashplugin -l
[09:37] <mustard5> [FN] Funstar, it sounds like you are describing Linspire :)
[09:37] <jeff303> ciro, ok hmm.. sorry don't know what command that actually invokes
[09:38] <kwtm> [FN] Funstar: Mandrake was previously good, but because of upgrading issues, I didn't want to use them any more.
[09:38] <ciro> jeff303, sorry for my english but it is not my first language
[09:38] <tarheel> they are coding linspire
[09:38] <tarheel> still
[09:38] <[FN] Funstar> mustard5 wopuld you say Linspire would be better than Ubuntu for my Dad?
[09:38] <jeff303> ciro, are you able to mount the CD rom and view its files?
[09:38] <ciro> jeff303, no I m sorry I dont know :P
[09:38] <blasph> ubuntu doesn't recognize all of the multimedia keys on my keyboard, and now I'm trying KeyTouch but it doesn't change a thing (even though it can sense each and every key, unlike the thingy that comes with Ubuntu)...
[09:38] <dasteve2> hello all, does anyone know what would cause a fuzzy looking display after setting up the fglrx driver, its on a laptop, radeon 9000m
[09:38] <mustard5> [FN] Funstar, I've never used it personally..
[09:38] <mustard5> [FN] Funstar, have a read of some of the distros available and www.distrowatch.com
[09:38] <kwtm> [FN] Funstar: Linspire is not as well known to me; I don't know what other people's experiences have been.
[09:38] <tarheel> doesnt linspire supposed to work and appear like xp
[09:39] <mustard5> [FN] Funstar, *at I meant to say
[09:39] <KaL> hello
[09:39] <ciro> jeff303, some day ago my ubuntu said me that I had to mount cdrom with pmount but I added my user to cdrom grouip and it stopped to ask me that
[09:39] <g0dchild> hi, i used that source-o-matic thingy, but there still no updates for amarok
[09:39] <shylock> is it ok to ask questions about the installer here, this will take pretty long time to explain i i dont typer very fast
[09:39] <jeff303> ciro, so you are having problems ejecting it?  hmm I wonder if it's still mounted?
[09:39] <voraistos> _jason:  everything is fine, but no, it doesnt work
[09:39] <kwtm> [FN] Funstar: Red Hat may be good, but apparently will take some maintenance.  If you are living with your dad and will be around if he needs help, would be useful.
[09:39] <voraistos> maybe because of the new firefox version ?
[09:39] <ciro> jeff303, not only ejectin but also burn cds
[09:40] <shylock> thing is i normally use windows xp
[09:40] <_jason> voraistos: it isntalled without errors?
[09:40] <shylock> but suddenly i cant boot up any more
[09:40] <dasteve2> does anyone have experience using the fglrx driver??
[09:40] <[FN] Funstar> kwtm, no he lives 50km away. I would like to help him by SSH or VNC.
[09:40] <IcemanV9> i think ubuntu would be great for Dad - everything just works (so far)
[09:40] <shylock> i dont want to throw all my data away
[09:40] <voraistos> everything went fine
[09:40] <_jason> voraistos: did you close all instances of firefox and start it again?
[09:40] <voraistos> yea
[09:40] <shylock> so i decide to set up ubuntu so i can access my ntfs partition
[09:40] <g0dchild> Hello...has anyone got the latest amarok release installed?
[09:40] <jeff303> ciro, can you try "sudo umount /dev/hdc"?
[09:41] <_jason> voraistos: oh you are using 1.5 in breezy?
[09:41] <blasph> do I need to do anything in xorg.conf or somewhere to get Ubuntu to recognize all of the multimedia buttons on my keyboard?
[09:41] <mustard5> shylock, are you saying you can't boot anything?  or just can't boot XP?
[09:41] <voraistos> 1.5.0.3 i think, the latest one
[09:41] <shylock> no just xp
[09:41] <kwtm> [FN] Funstar: It sounds like your dad has a stable net connection, so, yes, Ubuntu is definitely worth trying.  Which distro do you yourself use?  It would be useful for both of you to use the same distro.
[09:41] <_jason> voraistos: you installed it to /opt?
[09:41] <mustard5> shylock, so what happens when you attempt it?
[09:41] <voraistos> yea !
[09:41] <shylock> mustard5,  a dll is missing
[09:41] <shylock> and i tried copy it back from dllcashe
[09:42] <shylock> cache
[09:42] <_jason> voraistos: what does this return: ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/*flash*
[09:42] <kwtm> [FN] Funstar: I would make sure you have used it for at least 1 week before installing it on dad's computer.   You gave a distance in km, so I'm guessing you're not in the USA.
[09:42] <ciro> jeff303, umount: /dev/hdc: not mounted
[09:42] <shylock> but it seems to be removed any time windows boots
[09:42] <mustard5> shylock, any idea what the dll is called?
[09:42] <shylock> however
[09:42] <[FN] Funstar> I don't use Linux as desktop system because I play sometimes. The only cause I got Windoze on my machine
[09:42] <tarheel> dont use any distro with kde in it
[09:42] <shylock> mustard5,  w8 i check
[09:42] <jeff303> ciro, try just "eject" - on my system this ejects the cd rom
[09:42] <voraistos> _jason; /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so
[09:42] <shylock> mustard5,  msvcrt.dll
[09:43] <jeff303> ciro, better yet, try "eject -v" to see all the output
[09:43] <voraistos> in a strange/ very clear blue color
[09:43] <kwtm> tarheel: Why not use a distro with KDE in it?  Or do you mean, "don't use KDE"?
[09:43] <mustard5> shylock, hmmm..ok. not sure what that is :)
[09:43] <_jason> voraistos: hmm how about: ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/*flash*
[09:43] <shylock> however i try to install ubuntu
[09:43] <[FN] Funstar> Okay, I'll compare Linspire and Ubuntu and give it a try at my dads computer. Thank you very much
[09:43] <ciro> jeff303, the problem is taht ubuntu doent mount cdrom automatically because I gotta go in computer/cdrom open (and so mount) it
[09:43] <gnomefreak> tarheel: and kwtm can you take the desktop debate to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:43] <shylock> so i can access my music (i do my work on a remote mashine anyway)
[09:44] <tarheel> i freaking hate kde its painfully slow
[09:44] <jeff303> ciro, so the CD is in there, but not mounted?  do you get an error when you try "eject" from the terminal?
[09:44] <ciro> jeff303, the problem is taht ubuntu doent mount cdrom automatically because I gotta go in computer/cdrom to open it
[09:44] <shylock> so when it comes to partitioning
[09:44] <voraistos> _jason: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so
[09:44] <voraistos>  in green
[09:44] <shylock> i have a 120 GB win partition
[09:44] <gnomefreak> _jason: what if he didnt symlink the flash plugin to new version of ff?
[09:44] <ciro> jeff303, eject when it is mounted or not?
[09:44] <shylock> ntfs
[09:44] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[09:44] <jeff303> ciro, I think it will unmount it for you if it's mounted
[09:44] <eugman> Hey is there a way to do a search in the packages to find instances of tex but exclude results where where a t directly follows after tex? Also anyone know of a good .tex reader?
[09:44] <jeff303> ciro, check "man eject"
[09:44] <_jason> gnomefreak: right
[09:44] <jeff303> eugman, a tex file is just a text file
[09:44] <shylock> ubuntu installer says u can choose between 105 to 120 GB for partition size
[09:45] <jeff303> eugman, I use emacs to edit them
[09:45] <shylock> i choose 105
[09:45] <_jason> voraistos: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins
[09:45] <shylock> the comp goes into think tank
[09:45] <voraistos> shylock: why dont u just format it onto sum cool reiserFS or Ext3 ?
[09:45] <ciro> jeff303, ciro@CIRO:~$ eject
[09:45] <ciro> eject: unable to open `/dev/hdc'
[09:45] <shylock> voraistos,  i need to keep my win stuff
[09:45] <shylock> all my mp3 in there
[09:45] <jeff303> ciro, try doing "sudo eject"
[09:45] <eugman> Jeff303, Oh foolish me. I thought that because it was something special.
[09:45] <mustard5> shylock, ah ok..so its hanging on the partitioning part of the install
[09:45] <shylock> yea
[09:45] <gnomefreak> ciro: you have gui?
[09:45] <AnAnt> I get this error when setting LANG=en_US :
[09:45] <kwtm> tarheel: Most modern distros come with GNOME, KDE, and other desktop environments.  If you didn't use a distro with KDE, you'd be eliminating a lot of distros.  I guess what you mean is that if you use such a distro, then don't use the KDE that comes with it.
[09:45] <eugman> Gah, My two trains of through collided.
[09:45] <ciro> jeff303, with sudo it works
[09:46] <shylock> so after i while i come back to the partition screen
[09:46] <mustard5> shylock, I'll have a look for a guide that might help you...
[09:46] <n00blar> hello all, quick question...is there an application like karamba that can run in ubuntu or wil karamba run in ubuntu?
[09:46] <shylock> but it still says ntfs 120 GB
[09:46] <jeff303> eugman, I find the auctex package very cool for editing tex files (it adds a bunch of menus to emacs)
[09:46] <shylock> very strange
[09:46] <kwtm> eugman: "apt-cache search tex | grep tex[^t] "
[09:46] <voraistos> _jason; "ln: `/opt/firefox/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so': File exists
[09:46] <voraistos> " this is the output
[09:46] <shylock> so i reboot and try again
[09:46] <jeff303> ciro, it actually ejects?  maybe it is a permission issue?
[09:46] <tarheel> thats why i run redhat or ubuntu or gentoo
[09:46] <bluefoxicy> ubotu, spe
[09:46] <ubotu> bluefoxicy: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:46] <bluefoxicy> ubotu, ide
[09:46] <ubotu> bluefoxicy: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:47] <bluefoxicy> ubotu, are you useful at all
[09:47] <ubotu> bluefoxicy: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:47] <_jason> voraistos: and after closing all firefox and opening again http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ doesn't work?
[09:47] <shylock> this time i come to the partitioning part and it says your ntfs partition can be between 5 MB and 120 GB
[09:47] <ciro> jeff303, I dont know you are hte person who's tryin to help me :D
[09:47] <AlinuxSOS> hello, guys Is there some software that changes my IP every minute or something similar ?
[09:47] <eugman> Jeff303, is Tex the same and LaTex?
[09:47] <shylock> very strange
[09:47] <chmod775> how can I upgrade to drapper
[09:47] <chmod775> ?
[09:47] <_jason> !upgrade
[09:47] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[09:47] <shylock> it should be at least 100 GB of data on the ntfs partition
[09:47] <jeff303> eugman, that I'm not sure of... but I think LaTeX is a superset of TeX
[09:47] <hastesaver> eugman, LaTeX is a set of macros on TeX, it's simpler to use
[09:47] <ciro> jeff303, I supposed it was a permission issue but I dont know what to do to solve it
[09:47] <DBO> AlinuxSOS, you could fairly easily write a script to do it... but why?
[09:47] <shylock> but i set it to 110 anyway
[09:47] <shylock> computer thinks for a while and i get back to boot meny
[09:48] <mustard5> shylock, try reading over this guide and see if it helps http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[09:48] <shylock> still ntfs partition 120 GB
[09:48] <yeti> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13439
[09:48] <shylock> mustard5,  ty very much i check
[09:48] <yeti> still no proper X config
[09:48] <hastesaver> eugman, TeX is more at the barebones level, LaTeX is sort of a frontend to TeX and is somewhat high level
[09:48] <yeti> I must be stupid
[09:48] <jeff303> ciro, look in System/Administration/Users and Groups, and see if your new user is in the right ones
[09:48] <AlinuxSOS> DBO, is there some software?
[09:48] <shylock> mustard5, ahh that one
[09:48] <AlinuxSOS> it's for testing.
[09:48] <shylock> already read it
[09:48] <eugman> Hmmm, it looks like I do need a viewer for Tex. I opened it with text editor to read it and it's unformatted. What can I use to read it "all pretty lookin' ".
[09:48] <mustard5> shylock, ah ok
[09:48] <DBO> AlinuxSOS, nothing I am explicitly aware of...
[09:49] <ciro> jeff303, I dont know which groups are the right ones
[09:49] <shylock> thge funnty thing is when i boot up into recovery mode from a xp disc
[09:49] <jeff303> ciro, you are in "cdrom"?
[09:49] <shylock> and make a dir
[09:49] <mustard5> shylock, that guide is probably better than I can do with explanations :)
[09:49] <yeti> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13440
[09:49] <kwtm> AlinuxSOS: couldn't you do a script to release and then re-request an IP address?  What's the command for that, guys, "ifconfig --release" or something?
[09:49] <shylock> it says 45 MB used
[09:49] <shylock> 120 GB free
[09:49] <holycow> what is the easiest way to zero out a drive?
[09:49] <shylock> ?????
[09:49] <yeti> i am still stuck in 1024x768
[09:50] <ciro> jeff303, yes Im
[09:50] <shylock> when it should be like 15 GB free
[09:50] <shylock> but all files still there
[09:50] <mustard5> Have you got a liveCD?
[09:50] <jeff303> ciro, hmm here is something... go to the Users tab in there, do properties on your user, then go to  User priveleges and see if "Use CD-Rom devices" is checked
[09:50] <mustard5> shylock, have you got a liveCD?
[09:50] <shylock> mustard5,  yeahh thats what i use now
[09:50] <n00blar> Is there an application like karamba that can run in ubuntu or wil karamba run in ubuntu?
[09:50] <ciro> jeff303, it is checked
[09:50] <kwtm> AlinuxSOS: It would be something ilke "while 1; do ifconfig --release; ifconfig --acquire; done" or whatever the right commands are.  I'll probably need someone else to figure out the specifics.
[09:50] <mustard5> shylock, ah ok..so what do you see from the live CD in terms of the partition sizes?
[09:50] <AlinuxSOS> I need something similar to http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Network_and_Internet/Proxy_Server_Tools/Free_Proxyway_anonymous_surfing.html
[09:50] <AlinuxSOS> this
[09:51] <shylock> mustard5,  good question how do i see that
[09:51] <shylock> mustard5, in the file manager?
[09:51] <mustard5> shylock, try sudo fdisk -l
[09:51] <jeff303> ciro, sorry, then I really don't know, try asking on ubuntuforums.org
[09:51] <shylock> mustard5,  do i have to mount the ntfs oone first?
[09:52] <ubuntu> hello does any know a PowerPc chanel?
[09:52] <mustard5> shylock, no.not for that command
[09:52] <ciro> jeff303, no problem tnx 4 helpin me
[09:52] <mustard5> shylock, that should just list the partitions that linux can see
[09:52] <eugman> AlinuxSoS, If you need privacy you might want to try using tor.
[09:52] <_jason> voraistos: still there?
[09:52] <|Lord_Zoo|> #join #ubuntu+1
[09:52] <voraistos> yea
[09:52] <|Lord_Zoo|> ups
[09:52] <Winkie> sup buttes
[09:52] <phace> anyone resloved the acpi issue on hp nx 6125 ?
[09:52] <shylock> Disk /dev/hda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
[09:52] <shylock> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[09:52] <shylock> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[09:52] <shylock>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:52] <shylock> /dev/hda1   *           1       14592   117210208+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:52] <_jason> voraistos: did you try what I said?
[09:53] <shylock> sorry for flooding
[09:53] <mustard5> shylock, no pasting in the main channel ;)
[09:53] <voraistos> _jason: yea, did nothing
[09:53] <eugman> !pastebin
[09:53] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:53] <biberao> how to get WPA to work on ubuntu pls
[09:53] <_EduArDo_> Im using ubunto and I created a file with iptables rules to activate my firewall and now i want the system to inicialize it automatically. what should i do? where should i put it?
[09:53] <voraistos> _jason; i think i am just giving up for a while, my system is all screwed anyway
[09:53] <mustard5> shylock, ok..maybe you can try partitioning from the live CD
[09:54] <voraistos> _jason: i will make a frsh install with the next stable version of ubuntu available
[09:54] <_jason> voraistos: well the files didn't get installed.  What you have there seems to be from flashplayer-mozilla
[09:54] <shylock> mustard5, sounds like plan!!
[09:54] <shylock> mustard5, any hint where to start
[09:54] <M3ATW0D> can anyone help me with sunrays
[09:54] <mustard5> shylock, you would need to install a good graphical paritioning program
[09:54] <kwtm> AlinuxSOS: Okay, I think it's "while 1; do dhclient -r eth0; dhclient eth0; done" (replace eth0 with whatever interface you're using)
[09:54] <jeff303> shylock, gparted
[09:54] <mustard5> shylock, have you used the terminal before?
[09:55] <shylock> mustard5, yeahh but long time ago like 4 years
[09:55] <holycow> nm got it
[09:55] <shylock> mustard5, but i should handle it
[09:55] <voraistos> _jason: strange, but i give up for today. i am going for some ennemy-territory killings
[09:55] <_jason> voraistos: k
[09:55] <_EduArDo_> can anybody help me?
[09:55] <mustard5> shylock, ok...look in your applications>>Accessories menu for the terminal
[09:55] <shylock> mustard5,  just returned to linux world :)
[09:55] <_jason> !helpme
[09:55] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[09:55] <voraistos> thx yall, cya
[09:55] <shylock> mustard5, have it
[09:55] <_EduArDo_> ubotu; i asked!
[09:55] <ubotu> _EduArDo_: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:55] <eugman> jason , he did.
[09:55] <_EduArDo_> ubotu Im using ubunto and I created a file with iptables rules to activate my firewall and now i want the system to inicialize it automatically. what should i do? where should i put it?
[09:55] <ubotu> _EduArDo_: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[09:56] <mustard5> shylock, ok..now type   sudo apt-get install gparted
[09:56] <eugman> obotu is a robot
[09:56] <AlinuxSOS> kwtm, ok
[09:56] <_jason> ``can anybody help me'' is not really productive
[09:56] <_EduArDo_> hehe
[09:56] <_EduArDo_> ok
[09:56] <shylock> mustard5,  it says i allready have it
[09:56] <_EduArDo_> first time here and with ubuntu
[09:56] <_jason> _EduArDo_: but I did miss your question, let me scroll up :P
[09:56] <mustard5> shylock, ok..look for it in your Applications>>System Tools menu
[09:56] <M3ATW0D> anyone know how to fix keyboard issues with gdm
[09:57] <mustard5> shylock, I should advise that you backup your important data beforehand too :)
[09:57] <M3ATW0D> i have sunray server installed and the keyboards on the rays AND the server have issues
[09:57] <mustard5> shylock, I don't quite know how you are going to do that though at this point :D
[09:57] <skeff> is there an alternative to Movie Maker in linux?  I'm specifically looking for a program to just create a movie from movies and still pictures, a presentation actually.
[09:58] <_jason> _EduArDo_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IptablesHowTo?highlight=%28iptables%29
[09:58] <doubletwist> skeff Kino might work for ya
[09:58] <_EduArDo_> _jason: thanks!
[09:58] <jeff303> shylock, sorry I missed your issue earlier, are you trying to get data off an NTFS drive?
[09:58] <M3ATW0D> i always get 'authentication failed' like the keyborads are always hitting enter
[09:58] <imc_> So I am having trouble because a new user I added can access network manager but not the keyring-protected file with all the AP passwords. I'm being prompted not for the keyring password but the AP password.  I edited /etc/dbus-1/system.d/nm-applet.conf and added a policy to allow user foo to use keyring, copied the default.keyring to that from user bar. When user bar logs in he's challenged for the keyring passsword; when user foo logs in
[09:58] <skeff> doubletwist, I just opened it and it seems I can't load still pictures?
[09:58] <M3ATW0D> and enter and the num/scroll/caps lock are all that responds
[09:58] <doubletwist> skeff or it might now. I just use it to pull the video off my miniDV camera
[09:58] <mustard5> jeff303, his XP install is fubared and he wants to install ubuntu to acccess the ntfs drive to play music
[09:59] <mustard5> jeff303, he's got a dll error when booting XP atm
[09:59] <doubletwist> skeff Or there's cinelerra
[09:59] <jeff303> shylock, I've had good results getting files off my hosed ntfs partition using samba (Windows wasn't able to see the data)
[09:59] <doubletwist> skeff but it's not a simple program :)
[09:59] <ubuntu> I get e2fsck: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hda3
[09:59] <ubuntu> Could this be a zero-length partition? Any help?
[09:59] <yeti> knoppix works good for reading NTFS disk
[09:59] <skeff> doubletwist, yeah I've seen cinelerra and it's not for me ;) But thanks for the help tho
[10:00] <green_earz>  _EduArDo_: have a look at the man interfaces   doc and you use of the " post-up " and the " post-down " command. you can start the script from the /etc/network/interfaces  file
[10:00] <doubletwist> skeff I think that's one of the type of things that keep Linux from taking off on the desktop. We need software like iMovie, and Picassa/iPhoto and such.
[10:00] <tatters> It weird , I used windows for 12 yrs and decided to try Linux , now it seems I tend to use CLI more than GUI yet Linux is moving towards GUI s now it seems I have gone into reverse and soon I will be using a Abacus
[10:01] <doubletwist> haha
[10:01] <mustard5> heheh
[10:01] <chmod775> is it ok to upgrade to drapper
[10:01] <chmod775> ?
[10:01] <lukaswayne9> How can I suspend/hibernate through the command-line on a dapper system?
[10:01] <_jason> tatters: lol
[10:01] <jeff303> tatters, have you tried abacus with auto-beads?  it rocks  ;-)
[10:01] <ubuntu> Hello i have some problems with my ext3 partition any help? please :)
[10:01] <mustard5> chmod775, thats a very subjective question
[10:01] <baconbacon> with your nick you should be all right
[10:01] <jeff303> ubuntu, don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:01] <pudland> hello, im running 5.10... its telling me i can upgrade headers, linux image, and a bunch of xorg stuff.. 72 updates to be exact...  why so many all of a sudden
[10:02] <_jason> chmod775: it's ok if you don't mind it failing
[10:02] <jeff303> pudland, did you just switch your repositories?
[10:02] <pudland> no
[10:02] <jeff303> pudland, or it could be the x11 security fix
[10:02] <chmod775> what I mean to say is, has anyone faced problems with it
[10:02] <jeff303> pudland, there was a recently discovered x11 security flaw that was fixed quickly
[10:02] <chmod775> after upgrading from breezy to drapper
[10:02] <pudland> jeff303, havnt changed anything in months
[10:02] <baconbacon> pudland: xorg and kernel, many security fixes lately
[10:02] <jeff303> pudland, I had the same thing happen here
[10:02] <_jason> chmod775: #ubuntu+1 is made just for dapper talk
[10:02] <jeff303> pudland, basically all the x packages
[10:02] <kwtm> chmod775: Dapper appears to be stable and usable.  I am currently using it.  However, some unofficial packages for Breezy are not yet available for Dapper.
[10:02] <mustard5> chmod775, yes, people have had issues with a dist-upgrade :)
[10:02] <pudland> jeff303, yeah
[10:02] <skeff> doubletwist, actually Picasa is coming to linux :) Google is working, using WINE or something, to create a standalone running Picasa Linux
[10:02] <pudland> jeff303, did you update then?
[10:02] <doubletwist> skeff Schweet
[10:03] <tatters> ell gunna get meself a 64 bead abacus for sure  hopefully it supports auto beading
[10:03] <jeff303> pudland, yeah everything is fine
[10:03] <chmod775> ok
[10:03] <jeff303> pudland, it's a really minor fix if you google for what the flaw was
[10:03] <pudland> jeff303, kk, thanks much.. baconbacon
[10:03] <jeff303> pudland, I should say, very subtle (not minor)  ;)
[10:03] <baconbacon> doubletwist: indeed, I heard Google is working on a picasa built w/ winelib
[10:03] <skeff> doubletwist, anyway, it almost works well in Codeweavers Crossover Office
[10:03] <chmod775> how much MB download is it to upgrade from breezy ?
[10:03] <doubletwist> tatters Make sure it's an upgradeable abacus!
[10:03] <jpbotelho> chmod775, 664MB
[10:03] <pudland> jeff303, haha, ok thanks.  it just worried me that they popped up all of a sudden
[10:03] <tatters> and hyper beading techcnology
[10:03] <jpbotelho> i do it now
[10:03] <chmod775> ok
[10:03] <kwtm> chmod775: I used Krusader 1.70, although only 1.60 was available from the official repositories for Breezy and Dapper.  If you didn't need to install anything from unofficial repositories (ie. anything other than universe and multiverse and the usual), then it should be okay.
[10:04] <pudland> jeff303, and so many\
[10:04] <baconbacon> jpbotelho: that much?
[10:04] <jacobnix> im tryying to DHCP/TFTP server installation
[10:04] <jeff303> pudland, yeah, but it's somewhat comforting they fixed it so quick
[10:04] <chmod775> Krusader ?
[10:04] <jacobnix> to install Ubuntu from net
[10:04] <baconbacon> is that the iso or the upgrade
[10:04] <chmod775> what's that?
[10:04] <canard_> Hello, when you download a source file, where should you put it before to unpack and compile it?
[10:04] <jpbotelho> 1109 pacotes atualizados, 188 pacotes novos instalados, 61 a serem removidos e 2 no atualizados.
[10:04] <jacobnix> but i have a problem
[10:04] <jacobnix> ?
[10:04] <jpbotelho>   preciso fazer o download de 664MB de arquivos
[10:04] <_jason> !pt
[10:04] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[10:04] <baconbacon> ok
[10:04] <tatters> till string and knot technology got less bugs
[10:04] <jpbotelho> 1109 pkgs, 664MB upgrade to dapper
[10:04] <jacobnix> i am follow this manual https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/QuickNetboot
[10:04] <jpbotelho> from brezzy
[10:05] <imc_> Please any keyring help?
[10:05] <chmod775> !krusader
[10:05] <ubotu> chmod775: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:05] <masura> Hello everyone.
[10:05] <baconbacon> chmod775, jpbotelho: well or course that depends on your already installed packages
[10:05] <baconbacon> of course
[10:05] <warreng> i just booted the live cd.. but i can't find the "ar" utility (to extract .deb's)
[10:05] <kwtm> _jason, the guy was just posting what his computer said about getting 644MB archives.
[10:05] <baconbacon> chmod775, jpbotelho: mine was 430 mb
[10:05] <_jason> kwtm: ok?
[10:06] <chmod775>  the guy was just posting what his computer said about getting 644MB archives huh ?
[10:06] <tatters> IMs are strangeI have outlook yet anything I enter I remeber anyway
[10:06] <kbrooks> !tell imc_ about ask
[10:06] <kwtm> chmod775: what do you want to know about Krusader that you're asking U-bot-u?  You don't need it to upgrade to Dapper.
[10:06] <mustard5> imc_, what issues are you having with your keyring?
[10:06] <tatters> PIMS^
[10:06] <chmod775> ok
[10:06] <chmod775> Krusader ?
[10:06] <imc_> I created a new user and he seems unable to access things locked by the keyring - like nm-applet's passwords to the APs
[10:07] <warreng> how can i figure out what package "ar" Is in?
[10:07] <chmod775> I want to know what's that ?
[10:07] <canard_> Hello, when you download a source file, where should you put it before to unpack and compile it?
[10:07] <digitalosh> I need to get access to the page that teaches me how to use Synaptic Package Manager
[10:07] <imc_> Other users, when they log in and try to connect to an ap are challenged for the keyring password, mustard5
[10:07] <jeff303> warreng, try doing Search from synaptic (name and description)
[10:07] <imc_> this user is challenged for the AP password, not the keyring password
[10:07] <_jason> warreng: dpkg -S $(which ar)
[10:07] <digitalosh> Can someone take a second to help me out?
[10:07] <mustard5> imc_, hmmm..sounds a bit beyond my knowledge sorry....someone else may know
[10:08] <warreng> _jason: but i don't know the path for ar :-/
[10:08] <imc_> oh well thanks for trying
[10:08] <jeff303> digitalosh, try opening synaptic and check Help and Quick Introduction
[10:08] <_jason> warreng: you don't need it, just type like i did
[10:08] <jeff303> digitalosh, should tell you everything you need to know
[10:08] <digitalosh> theres a website that the bot knows... thats where i need to go
[10:08] <baconbacon> /usr/bin/ar
[10:08] <warreng> _jason: doesn't work work
[10:08] <kbrooks> !synaptic
[10:08] <ubotu> it has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:08] <imc_> Other users, when they log in and try to connect to an ap are challenged for the keyring password, mustard5
[10:08] <warreng> -work
[10:08] <_jason> warreng: which ar gives you the path
[10:08] <imc_> DOH!
[10:08] <warreng> h# dpkg -S $(which ar)
[10:08] <warreng> dpkg-query: --search needs at least one file name pattern argument
[10:08] <baconbacon> _jason: not if he dooes have it :P
[10:08] <warreng> _jason: what path does it give you?
[10:08] <baconbacon> doesnt
[10:08] <warreng> because i don't have it
[10:08] <warreng> :)
[10:08] <_jason> warreng: it's in binutils
[10:08] <mustard5> digitalosh, the link is above ^^
[10:09] <baconbacon> /usr/bin/ar
[10:09] <warreng> can you give me the full path?
[10:09] <scifi> anyone a whiz with blender ?
[10:09] <warreng> thanks
[10:09] <kbrooks> !tell digitalosh about synaptic
[10:09] <_jason> warreng: install build-essential probably, that should pull it in
[10:09] <Janos> hey there, i'm running breeze, i have a samsun printer, and i have a paper of size folio on it, but the printer administration front end doesn't have this paper size, is there a way to specify a custom paper size ?
[10:09] <digitalosh> thanks a lot
[10:09] <canard_> Hello, when you download a source file, where should you put it before to unpack and compile it?
[10:09] <baconbacon> canard_: depends on some things
[10:10] <keith_> hi
[10:10] <tatters> I think your supposed to make a folder somewhere as your playground for compiling etc
[10:10] <keith_> i got a problem
[10:10] <kbrooks> canard_: depends. for programs, you should put the .tar.gz file in your home directory
[10:10] <keith_> when i click on Nvu
[10:10] <keith_> to eun it it says file not found
[10:10] <kbrooks> tatters: no, you SHOULD, not you're SUPPOSED to
[10:10] <sfllaw> Celebrate No Pants Day by going Chicago-style!
[10:10] <canard_> Ahh
[10:10] <baconbacon> canard_: if you have to compile it, put it somewhere in home, then install it from there, if you have a directory tree, you put it in /
[10:10] <kbrooks> tatters: it is not MANDATORY
[10:11] <canard_> Thanks
[10:11] <mustard5> keith_, you definitely have it installed?
[10:11] <kbrooks> baconbacon: um.
[10:11] <keith_> how do i check?
[10:11] <mustard5> keith_, try installing again with apt-get
[10:11] <keith_> ok
[10:11] <keith_> ill try
[10:11] <kbrooks> baconbacon: theres another way of circumventing the rewquirement of ther usage of the root directory
[10:11] <baconbacon> kbrooks, canard_: like frostwire, it has /usr in the archive, i extract it to / to install..
[10:11] <jeff303> keith_, try doing "which (whatever)" where (whatever) is the command you're trying to run, that will tell you if it can find it
[10:12] <kbrooks> baconbacon: you should NOT do that. AT ALL.
[10:12] <LSZH> Hello... I'm using Ekiga under Ubuntu... is there also a Windows client available that supports Ekiga?
[10:12] <baconbacon> uhh why
[10:12] <warreng> ar!!!! (you were right, it was in binutils)
[10:12] <keith_> keith@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get Nvu
[10:12] <keith_> Password:
[10:12] <keith_> E: Invalid operation Nvu
[10:12] <keith_> thats what it said
[10:12] <baconbacon> apt-get install nvu
[10:12] <_jason> keith_: apt-get install
[10:12] <mustard5> keith_, sudo apt-get install nvu
[10:12] <kbrooks> baconbacon: instead, you should create a ~/.local directory, and extract the tarball to that directory
[10:13] <baconbacon> yes but then other users wouldnt have it
[10:13] <keith_> ok its working
[10:13] <kbrooks> baconbacon: eh? multiple users on a ubuntu system?
[10:13] <baconbacon> kbrooks: i understand the point,
[10:14] <jeff303> baconbacon, why not just put it in /opt
[10:14] <nickrud> speaking of multiple users on one ubuntu machine, is anyone knowledgeable about acl's under linux?
[10:14] <acuster> Hey all, does anyone know the status of sound support for Ubuntu? Looks like four months ago things were often broken. Is there a known/general difficulty with sound recording?
[10:14] <keith_> Setting up nvu (1.0-0ubuntu3) ...
[10:14] <keith_> am i good now?
[10:15] <canard_> baconbacon; What do you mean by a directory tree?
[10:15] <kbrooks> keith_: it finishes when you are returned to the shell prompt
[10:15] <keith_> ok it did
[10:15] <starman> hi to all
[10:15] <starman> is there a channel for amd64?
[10:15] <keith_> ok  i got one more problem
[10:15] <kbrooks> keith_: type "nvu".
[10:15] <keith_> when i restart my computer
[10:15] <kbrooks> starman: ?
[10:15] <starman> yes
[10:15] <keith_> sometimes it freezes with a blank screen
[10:15] <keith_> and doesnt go to the login ubuntu screen
[10:16] <baconbacon> the archive for frostwire has only a usr directory, with subdirs like local/share ...
[10:16] <starman> I am not getting compiz to work
[10:16] <keith_> i had to logg in as root to get on
[10:16] <starman> in debian 64
[10:16] <kbrooks> starman: maybe here. don't ask to ask.
[10:16] <tatters> I got a 64 bit processor with only 32 bit instruction set
[10:16] <jeff303> keith_, at what point does this happen?  after all the plain text output has elapsed?
[10:16] <starman> sorry ubuntu 64 :D
[10:16] <keith_> but now it worked
[10:16] <keith_> yes
[10:16] <keith_> and i see the little clock
[10:16] <baconbacon> canard_:  but they're right, extract it to ~/.local when you got that
[10:16] <keith_> it freezes with the little clock i the centter of the screen
[10:16] <kwtm> jeff303: looks like keith is getting the text logins (Ctrl-Alt-Fn) but not the X server
[10:17] <starman> tatters, how can you have a 64bit processor with a 32 instruction set
[10:17] <jeff303> keith_, I had the same thing happen on my machine, but my hard drive was going bad, it happened nondeterministically
[10:17] <kbrooks> jeff303: meaning what?
[10:17] <keith_> what should i do if it happens again
[10:17] <jeff303> kbrooks, meaning, sometimes Gnome would never come up, sometimes it would
[10:17] <tatters> its a semperon 3100 64 bit processor but only got the 32 bit instruction set so it cheap :)
[10:17] <baconbacon> uhhh
[10:18] <baconbacon> pentiums are intern 64 bits ext 32 right
[10:18] <tatters> runs good though V overclockable
[10:18] <starman> tatters, then that is fraud
[10:18] <ciro> hi all
[10:18] <jeff303> tatters, does it have 32 or 64 bit registers?
[10:18] <hastesaver2> acuster, I have no problems with sound, either playback (mplayer, etc) or recording (audacity)
[10:18] <juan> hola
[10:18] <keith_> also whats the command to get the opera web browser
[10:19] <ciro> my ubuntu doesnt mount my cdrom automatically.im forced to mount it manually goin in compute/cdrom/mount
[10:19] <_EduArDo_> I want to execute a command that i created everytime the system begins.. what i have to do?
[10:19] <keith_> apt-get install opera
[10:19] <baconbacon> hola? #ubuntu-es
[10:19] <acuster> yeah, the question is if people often *do* have problems these days.
[10:19] <jenda> Hmm, what can I do to restore screen res after a program fails to do so at exit? (tuxtype in this case)
[10:19] <starman> if it only has a 64bit instruction set how much worthed is 64bit general purpose registers?
[10:19] <ciro> who can help me to configure ubuntu so taht can mount cdrom automatically?
[10:19] <starman> sorry 32bit :D
[10:19] <jeff303> starman, true, true
[10:19] <_jason> _EduArDo_: do you want it just when you login or actually when you boot?
[10:19] <starman> sounds like a big BS
[10:19] <_EduArDo_> _jason: when boot
[10:20] <tatters> hmm judge ye not befr google
[10:20] <_jason> _EduArDo_: you could stick it at the bottom of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[10:20] <starman> however how many software is really programmed to use 64bit instruction set?
[10:20] <tatters> its got 64 bit architecture
[10:20] <tatters> pins
[10:20] <_EduArDo_> i ll try _jason.. tkz
[10:20] <jeff303> starman, not too many... programs have to be compiled to use it
[10:20] <tatters> but only 32 itinstruction set
[10:20] <baconbacon> starman: those which are compiled for it
[10:21] <FurryNemesis> hello
[10:21] <_EduArDo_> _jason: should i put the command on the first line?
[10:21] <keith_> Could not parse file '/usr/share/applications/linpopup.desktop': desktop entry does not start with legal start group
[10:21] <starman> I mean if you compile a program in a 64bit compiler does it actually use the whole 64bit or only the first 32bits
[10:21] <_jason> _EduArDo_: put it on the bottom before exit
[10:21] <keith_> it said that when i tried to install opera
[10:21] <keith_> how do i fix it
[10:22] <n00blar> Is there an application like karamba that can run in ubuntu or wil karamba run in ubuntu?
[10:22] <jeff303> keith_, are you trying to install from the package?
[10:22] <keith_> yes
[10:22] <FurryNemesis> does anyone know of a terminal command that'll clean up unnecessary files? (like disc cleanup in WinXP) ?
[10:22] <starman> anyone has successfully installed compiz in amd64 with nvidia?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> FurryNemesis: sudo apt-get autoclean
[10:22] <keith_> from the terminal
[10:22] <keith_> apt-get install opera
[10:22] <starman> only time I have really had the chance to see that working 100% is with kororaa 32bit
[10:22] <WildZeck> FurryNemesis, lol non unescessarry file in linux
[10:23] <WildZeck> juste unistall with the --purge option
[10:23] <gnomefreak> FurryNemesis: the files that scroll by are being deleted
[10:23] <starman> not very stable though
[10:23] <carmen> hola
[10:23] <starman> hola carmen
[10:23] <keith_> how do i install from the package?
[10:23] <jeff303> FurryNemesis, most temp files are places in /tmp, which is a tempfs and is cleared after each reboot
[10:23] <carmen> hola stsarman
[10:23] <FurryNemesis> i figured.... but I copypasted something like that the other day and figured that it did something similar....my system went like a rocket afterwards
[10:23] <FurryNemesis> anyway tyvm
[10:23] <keith_> i allready ahhve it on my computer
[10:23] <WildZeck> keith_, sudo dpkg -i mypack.deb
[10:23] <starman> ok one easy question
[10:23] <keith_> it just doesnt work
[10:24] <starman> I dont recall howto set the video boot parameter in grub
[10:24] <gnomefreak> keith_: breezy or dapper?
[10:24] <baconbacon> Temp files are managed better in Linux in general
[10:24] <keith_> breezy
[10:24] <WildZeck> keith_, witch error
[10:24] <keith_> Could not parse file '/usr/share/applications/linpopup.desktop': desktop entry does not start with legal start group
[10:24] <baconbacon> FurryNemesis: What kind of "temp files" it erased?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> keith_: did you get the deb from opera?
[10:24] <starman> I have tried video=vesa:mtrr,ywrap,1280x1024-24@60 but didnt work, it ignored it directly
[10:24] <carmen> hola un chico solo
[10:24] <gnomefreak> carmen: join #ubuntu-es for spanish
[10:24] <keith_> i have the package icon
[10:24] <starman> carmen usuaria de ubuntu eh?
[10:25] <WildZeck> keith_, package broken
[10:25] <WildZeck> try another one
[10:25] <keith_> when i click it it says error
[10:25] <carmen> si
[10:25] <starman> el pabo es tragabrocas
[10:25] <gnomefreak> starman: english in here
[10:25] <khaladan> where can i get info on how to 'properly' install sun's java 1.5 JDK
[10:25] <starman> oh sorry, I forgot
[10:25] <kbrooks> is there a disk cleanup tool in ubuntu?
[10:25] <baconbacon> !java
[10:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:25] <WildZeck> khaladan, juste install it in /var/local/jdk
[10:25] <carmen> no hadlo ingles
[10:25] <keith_> it works now WTF
[10:25] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: sudo apt-get autoclean
[10:25] <khaladan> thanks dawg.
[10:25] <keith_> my computer acting shiitty
[10:26] <starman> kbrooks, the best thing to clean up is sudo rm -rf /
[10:26] <khaladan> WildZeck huhu how about no
[10:26] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: other than that.
[10:26] <gnomefreak> !es
[10:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:26] <kbrooks> starman: hey!
[10:26] <starman> oh sorry, dont do that
[10:26] <kbrooks> starman: i'm not that stupid.
[10:26] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: not that i have seen
[10:26] <lekikui> I've just switched to a new monitor and my screen resolution is at 640x480, with no other options shown. Do you know how I change this?
[10:26] <jeff303> staaka, umm... sarcasm doesn't translate
[10:26] <carmen> hola
[10:26] <baconbacon> kbrooks, gnomefreak: removing all packages after install is not much cleanup
[10:26] <starman> dont do sudo dpkg -r --force-all libc6 otherwise you will get my latest system stability
[10:26] <kbrooks> wherre can i find my temp files cookies etc
[10:26] <WildZeck> khaladan, and add ...../jdk/bin in your path and a variable CLASSPATH with .../jdk/lib
[10:26] <baconbacon> i mean... all packages archives
[10:26] <kbrooks> baconbacon: um.
[10:26] <imonkey> hello, from the beginning i had no problems whit my soundcard in ubuntu but just 3 mins ago the sounds was gone even when i reboot i still have no sound anyone here who could tell me what i should look for?
[10:27] <IcemanV9> ubotu: tell lekikui about resolution
[10:27] <kbrooks> baconbacon: autoclean does not remove all packages
[10:27] <canard_> Is there any reason why the main release of drapper was delayed?
[10:27] <jeff303> kbrooks, look in /tmp
[10:27] <tatters>  error this virus requires win 9X or higher in order to function correctly :P
[10:27] <kbrooks> jeff303: No. browser temp files
[10:27] <jpbotelho> imonkey, hw problems??
[10:27] <g0dchild> good gracious....I am stealing bandwidth
[10:27] <starman> which are the main differences with a standard debian distribution?
[10:27] <baconbacon> Yes they take up space but that wont affect the general speed much i think
[10:27] <g0dchild> When i use linux, my ISP doesnt seem to know that i am downloading
[10:27] <xophEr> ubotu, where do I download dapper?
[10:27] <ubotu> xophEr: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:27] <gnomefreak> baconbacon: to delete packages you need to either sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> or dpkg -r package
[10:28] <shylock> mustard5, hallo mr, remember me and my partition problems?
[10:28] <jeff303> kbrooks, firefox?
[10:28] <jenda> Whta can I do when a program has quit without restoring the screen resolution in gnome?
[10:28] <mustard5> shylock, yeah
[10:28] <kbrooks> canard_: various. touches up for one. enterprise level certification
[10:28] <baconbacon> gnomefreak: yes sry i meant package archives
[10:28] <baconbacon> gnomefreak: Yes they take up space but that wont affect the general speed much i think
[10:28] <shylock> mustard5, the comp froze when i launched gparted
[10:28] <kbrooks> canard_: (for another)
[10:28] <canard_> Ahh
[10:28] <keith_> does ubuntu have 10,000 bugs still?
[10:28] <shylock> mustard5, so i rebooted again
[10:28] <gnomefreak> baconbacon: this isnt windows it shouldnt affect speed
[10:28] <kbrooks> canard_: millions of reasons
[10:28] <shylock> mustard5,  and run it
[10:28] <WildZeck> keith_, nope your package instead
[10:29] <starman> well people it has been really nice to talk to you, I may be back later on. I need to get illustrated with all these ubuntu stuff. I am an old debian user :)
[10:29] <keith_> o the packages have bugs
[10:29] <canard_> kbrooks: I just thought it was rather strange
[10:29] <shylock> mustard5,  and tried to resize the ntfs partition, so i set a new size an click apply
[10:29] <starman> bye bye
[10:29] <vmadmin> hello
[10:29] <kbrooks> canard_: (millions of ...) is a figure of speech. i was just exaggerating :-)
[10:29] <shylock> mustard5, computer thinks for a while and the values change to what i set
[10:29] <keith_> how do i get runescape to work?
[10:29] <keith_> wll it work with linux?
[10:29] <shylock> mustard5,  only to change back a few secs later
[10:29] <canard_> kbrooks, I got that :P
[10:29] <vmadmin> is there a secure minimal x web browser?
[10:30] <kbrooks> keith_: ubuntu is not "bug free".
[10:30] <carmen> hello eduardo
[10:30] <shylock> mustard5, to 8 MB unsused space
[10:30] <gnomefreak> vmadmin: links2
[10:30] <kbrooks> keith_: it will always have bugs
[10:30] <keith_> k
[10:30] <gnomefreak> carmen: /j #ubuntu-es
[10:30] <tatters> Is there such a thing as a universal grapihic card driver , sound card driver etc
[10:30] <baconbacon> is links2 for x?
[10:30] <keith_> that makes me feel better
[10:30] <shylock> mustard5,  could it be a broken disk maybe?
[10:30] <keith_> i like bugs
[10:30] <gnomefreak> baconbacon: no its text/gui
[10:30] <jeff303> shylock, from  my exp. the graphical partition tools fail silentli if resize cannot be done
[10:30] <keith_> lady bugs are my favorite
[10:30] <kbrooks> heh keith_
[10:30] <gnomefreak> it runs in both modes
[10:30] <lekikui> thanks for the link, but I'm using breezy badger.
[10:31] <mustard5> shylock, I'm really not sure
[10:31] <shylock> jeff303,  u know of anything better?
[10:31] <carmen> hello
[10:31] <jeff303> shylock, if the ntfs partition has any bad blocks whatsoever then ntfsresize won't even try
[10:31] <vmadmin> gnomefreak is that a apt-get install links2 ?
[10:31] <shylock> mustard5, too bad, i have to thank u very much any way
[10:31] <gnomefreak> vmadmin: yes
[10:31] <shylock> mustard5,  u helped me a lot
[10:31] <imonkey> hello, from the beginning i had no problems whit my soundcard in ubuntu but just 3 mins ago the sounds was gone even when i reboot i still have no sound anyone here who could tell me what i should look for?
[10:31] <jenda> I need to restore the screen resolution - can someone please help me? I quit a fullscreen program and it stayed at about 3*5...
[10:32] <baconbacon> gnomefreak: ooh you right, mouse works in it,
[10:32] <carmen> hello
[10:32] <jeff303> shylock, it may refuse under some other situations too
[10:32] <shylock> jeff303, is htere a way to fix bad blocks?
[10:32] <gnomefreak> baconbacon: links -g will run graphical links
[10:32] <gnomefreak> someone who speaks spanish please tell carmen to join #ubuntu-es
[10:32] <baconbacon> it's alright for the minimalist, but particularly secure?
[10:33] <jeff303> shylock, if it's on ntfs your best bet is to use msft tools like chkdsk
[10:33] <NoobZaibot> Hi
[10:33] <NoobZaibot> anybody awake for help ?
[10:33] <shylock> jeff303,  i ran chkdsk but nothing happened
[10:33] <carmen> ho no hadlasspanish gomefreak
[10:33] <shylock> jeff303,  did u get my win problem?
[10:33] <corey> carmen, para recibeas ayudar mas efficienado ir a la #ubuntu-es
[10:33] <jeff303> shylock, try launching gparted from a terminal, that may letu see errors
[10:34] <shylock> jeff303,  when starting win there is this missing dll, i tried to put it back but when i reboot win it is still not there
[10:34] <baconbacon> carmen por favor vas a #ubuntu-es (pro spanish-speaker :) )
[10:34] <shylock> jeff303,  should i do that with sudo?
[10:34] <ubuntu> hey
[10:34] <jeff303> shylock, yeah sorry try "sudo gparted:
[10:34] <corey> eh im sure he understood m too baconbacon :)
[10:34] <shylock> jeff303,  no prob :) still new to ubuntu i am
[10:35] <mathieu> sadly, the language-specific channels are mostly useless
[10:35] <jeff303> shylock, then try the resize and see if it spits output to the term.
[10:35] <ubuntu_> I am new here adn where am I at?
[10:35] <ubuntu> i'm having a problem in booting to ubuntu
[10:35] <vmadmin> gnomefreak: apt-get cannot find package, is there there a line that needs to go in sources.lst?
[10:35] <jenda> I need help - I just quit an application (tuxtype) which runs in fullscreen, but it failed to restore my screen resolution, so I have to scroll around my desktop with my mouse. It's really annoying and I don't want to have to restart X because of it. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_: this is a support channel for ubuntu
[10:35] <jeff303> ubuntu_, somewhere in sol system
[10:35] <gnomefreak> !info links2
[10:35] <Linuxking> Lol, anyone know where I can adjust my windows? Cause I dont want to see my windows when I move it.
[10:35] <kbrooks> jenda: xrandr
[10:35] <ubuntu_> This Ubuntu thing is very new to me
[10:35] <nickrud> jenda, does clt-alt-+ change the res?
[10:35] <ubotu> links2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre16-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1939 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB
[10:36] <NoobZaibot> Hi, anybody can help me ? i need to disable the Graphic Interfase of Ubuntu because it consumes too much CPU and i am running a server
[10:36] <gnomefreak> vmadmin: you need universe repo enabled
[10:36] <jenda> nickrud: yup - thanks 
[10:36] <kbrooks> NoobZaibot: you should have instaled in server mode.
[10:36] <|Sivik|> Noob: you need to edit the grub to start into init=3 so its just in text mode
[10:36] <NoobZaibot> i dont wanna reinstall the server, there is someway to disable it ?
[10:37] <_jason> Linuxking: applications > system tools > configuration editor, then check the key corresponding to /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources
[10:37] <|Sivik|> Noob: yes
[10:37] <nickrud> NoobZaibot, the quick & dirty method would be sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[10:37] <NoobZaibot> lol
[10:37] <ubuntu> i've made an update to kernel and now in lilo says: loading... Linux EBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage. so what can i do to fix it? i'm using now a live cd of ubuntu
[10:37] <NoobZaibot> i don't wanna delete x)
[10:37] <|Sivik|> NoobZaibot: or you can do it my way
[10:37] <NoobZaibot> init=3 ?
[10:37] <Linuxking> Lol, anyone know where I can adjust my animations? Cause I dont want to see my windows when I move it.
[10:37] <NoobZaibot> that sounds better
[10:37] <tatters> As Ubuntu progresses is also the minimum sys reuirements also  increasing?
[10:37] <kbrooks> NoobZaibot: gdm isnt X
[10:37] <NoobZaibot> well i have this process running
[10:37] <|Sivik|> NoobZaibot: let me look for you an example
[10:37] <kbrooks> NoobZaibot: gdm uses X, but it isnt X
[10:37] <nickrud> NoobZaibot, that doesn't work, changing the init, & all you're doing with mine is stopping x from starting
[10:37] <shylock> jeff303, if i post the output somewhere could u take a look on it?
[10:37] <NoobZaibot> /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xa
[10:37] <jeff303> shylock, yeah try pastebin
[10:37] <jazzanova> hi
[10:37] <NoobZaibot> that's the graphic interfase right?
[10:38] <shylock> !pastebin
[10:38] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:38] <nickrud> Nogimics, yes
[10:38] <kbrooks> NoobZaibot: No. GNOME is.
[10:38] <nickrud> NoobZaibot, ^^
[10:38] <NoobZaibot> ok
[10:38] <jazzanova> I am trying to dist-upgrade to breezy, and there is a problem with libofx
[10:38] <kbrooks> NoobZaibot: You can kill it to kill te graphical interface
[10:38] <kbrooks> NoobZaibot: killall X. Try that
[10:38] <NoobZaibot> but i don't want it to load automatically
[10:38] <Mattia`> hi all
[10:38] <lekikui> could someone guide me through how to modify xorg.conf so i get a decent screen resolution please?
[10:38] <|Sivik|> jazzanova: uninsall and reinstall the libofx
[10:38] <jazzanova> thanks.
[10:39] <Mattia`> lekikui
[10:39] <|Sivik|> jazzanova: what is the issues?
[10:39] <nickrud> NoobZaibot, do the line I gave, X (gnome) won't start on your next boot
[10:39] <Mattia`> edit conf file in /etc/X11
[10:39] <vmadmin> gnomefreak: what is the line please?
[10:39] <lekikui> thanks, but I'm not sure what to edit
[10:39] <shylock> jeff303, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13442
[10:39] <mustard5> !tell lekikui about fixres
[10:39] <Linuxking> Where can i adjust my graphics? Cause i dont want to see my windows when i move it.
[10:40] <Mattia`> lekikui
[10:40] <imonkey> dont ask me how and why but after this last reboot i got my sound back :S
[10:40] <Mattia`> there is a section for your resolution
[10:40] <lekikui> okay
[10:40] <Mattia`> like this "800x600"
[10:40] <kbrooks> imonkey: mysterious
[10:40] <Mattia`> yuo must edit it
[10:40] <lekikui> okay
[10:40] <NoobZaibot> lol
[10:40] <imonkey> kbrooks: yeah freaky
[10:40] <shylock> jeff303, the first half came when i started the program other half when scanning discs after partitioning
[10:40] <nickrud> Linuxking, _jason gave you the answer above
[10:40] <NoobZaibot> nickrud : the phrase "quick and dirty" scares me
[10:40] <lekikui> it reads "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[10:40] <jazzanova> any major improvements in breezy ?
[10:41] <shylock> jeff303,  and by partitioning i mean clicking the apply button
[10:41] <lekikui> but change screen res in preferences only gives me 640x480
[10:41] <Mattia`> lekikui
[10:41] <Mattia`> now
[10:41] <Linuxking> oh i didnt see it thanx
[10:41] <Mattia`> edit these values
[10:41] <Mattia`> *those
[10:41] <jeff303> shylock, interesting, is hdd ntfs?
[10:41] <lekikui> to?
[10:41] <Mattia`> y
[10:41] <kbrooks> jazzanova: there is even more in dapper (out on june 1)
[10:41] <nickrud> NoobZaibot, heh. There are tools for changing things that are set by runlevels, the net result is the same
[10:42] <ubuntu> having this problem in LILO when choose linux -> Loading.. Linux EBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage
[10:42] <shylock> jeff303,  i guess so, there is like a 120GB ntfs partition and 8 MB not used
[10:42] <vmadmin> gnomefreak like this deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu.universe repo?
[10:42] <Minty> newbie question : have downloaded skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb  How do i install it ???
[10:42] <_jason> baconbacon: you enter ### and it crashes?
[10:42] <shylock> jeff303, so if hdd refers to the partition it should be
[10:42] <kbrooks> Minty: dpkg -i name.deb
[10:43] <ubuntu> having this problem in LILO when choose linux -> Loading.. Linux EBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage
[10:43] <nickrud> NoobZaibot, a couple of good tools are sysv-init-rc (text) and bum (graphical)
[10:44] <jeff303> shylock, can you send me a screenshot of what gparted looks like when you open it and it has shown you the partitions?
[10:44] <shylock> jeff303,  how do i take a scrrenshot in ubuntu?
[10:44] <jeff303> shylock, printscreen button or System menu
[10:44] <nickrud> I'm trying to set up a shared directory, where any file saved to that directory will have a forced group. Does anyone have any pointers?
[10:45] <lekikui> quit
[10:45] <ubuntu> and me no one helps? :(
[10:45] <jeff303> nickrud, what do you mean, "forced group?"
[10:45] <nickrud> jeff303, a user saves a file to that directory, and the group is 'XXX' vs the user's group
[10:45] <soundray> ubuntu, you may have to be patient. Not many people on ubuntu use lilo
[10:45] <ubuntu__> hola a todos como estan
[10:46] <gnomefreak> !es
[10:46] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:46] <Mattia`> ola ubuntu__
[10:46] <Mattia`> speak in english with us pls
[10:46] <ubuntu__> como estas
[10:46] <zcat[1] > nickrud: set 'sticky bit' on directory
[10:46] <Mattia`> todo bien gracias
[10:46] <ubuntu__> de donde eres
[10:46] <zcat[1] > chmod g+s foo/
[10:46] <Mattia`> i'm from italy
[10:46] <nickrud> zcat[1] , thanks, I'll give that a try.
[10:46] <ubuntu> e eu?
[10:46] <ubuntu> dase
[10:46] <jeff303> nickrud, just make the group you want, associate that group with the folder, and make sure you're in the group
[10:46] <ubuntu__> pero hablas o entiendes el espaol
[10:47] <ubuntu> parece k toda a gente passa a minha frente
[10:47] <jeff303> nickrud, that should do it, or do you need more specific advice?
[10:47] <richs> k guai, quien habla espaol aqui
[10:47] <soundray> !es
[10:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:47] <Mattia`> yo hablo espanol non mucho bien
[10:47] <Minty> kbrroks got an error when doing this saying cant get to the file (soory translating from french)
[10:47] <Mattia`> :E
[10:47] <mathieu> todo el mundo habla espanol aqui
[10:47] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-pt
[10:47] <richs> or english
[10:47] <Mattia`> nu
[10:47] <vmadmin> gnomefreak: could just for no browser and ask all my questions here but i may get a blast
[10:47] <_jason> !es
[10:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:47] <mathieu> tan facil
[10:47] <Mattia`> i'm italian
[10:47] <nickrud> jeff303, I've tried that, I think. I'll try both yours & zcat[1] 's. I had it as a vfat for a long time, which was easy
[10:47] <gnomefreak> vmadmin: what?
[10:48] <Mattia`> but i prefer to speak in english
[10:48] <ben-2006> hey all
[10:48] <richs> cool Mattia
[10:48] <Mattia`> yes richs
[10:48] <richs> where you from?
[10:48] <Mattia`> :E
[10:48] <ubuntu__> that ok
[10:48] <Mattia`> i'm from italy
[10:48] <gnomefreak> this is an english channel lets keep it to english
[10:48] <ubuntu> having this problem in LILO when choose linux -> Loading.. Linux EBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage
[10:48] <Mattia`> and you?
[10:48] <richs> Barcelona
[10:48] <Mattia`> :)
[10:48] <richs> Spain
[10:48] <shylock> jeff303, here we go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i13444
[10:48] <Mattia`> como estats holmes?
[10:48] <Mattia`> lol
[10:48] <Mattia`> :E
[10:49] <jeff303> shylock, ooh you're running off livecd?
[10:49] <Mattia`> I love eddie guerrero
[10:49] <Mattia`> :K
[10:49] <shylock> jeff303,  w8 it seems to have been smaller
[10:49] <Mattia`> :D
[10:49] <shylock> jeff303,  yeah
[10:49] <richs> no podemos hablar espaol aqui.....dicen
[10:49] <Mattia`> viva la raza para siempre
[10:49] <vmadmin> gnomefreak:  like this deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu.universe repo?
[10:49] <shylock> jeff303, i mean rezised
[10:49] <Mattia`> and so
[10:49] <richs> anyway
[10:49] <gnomefreak> english
[10:49] <kbrooks> OK
[10:49] <shylock> jeff303,  can u see?
[10:49] <Mattia`> we talk in english
[10:49] <Mattia`> no problem
[10:49] <Mattia`> :E
[10:49] <gnomefreak> unop
[10:49] <Mattia`> anyway what?
[10:49] <richs> This is my first time on iRC
[10:49] <richs> looks cool
[10:49] <gnomefreak> vmadmin: yes
[10:49] <nickrud> zcat[1] , thanks much. Exactly what I wanted
[10:50] <Mattia`> richs
[10:50] <Mattia`> I have an IRC network
[10:50] <Mattia`> :)
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell vmadmin about universe
[10:50] <richs> yeah
[10:50] <Mattia`> irc is the best protocolo for to chat today
[10:50] <Mattia`> :)
[10:50] <Mattia`> *protocol
[10:50] <kbrooks> ummm.
[10:50] <richs> I have just come from a German channel
[10:50] <Mattia`> oooo
[10:50] <Minty> to install a file from tmp folder do I have to tell the terminal that the file is there or 'place' the termimal in the tmp folder
[10:50] <richs> not much luck there
[10:50] <Mattia`> i hate german channel
[10:50] <Mattia`> :D
[10:50] <NV_The_Riper> je suis en train d'installer les pilotes ati
[10:51] <richs> everything is in english though
[10:51] <NV_The_Riper> mais je c pa koi mettre dans les configureation
[10:51] <gnomefreak> ummm move to #ubuntu-offtopic for non support issues
[10:51] <Mattia`> yeap
[10:51] <kbrooks> I'd like to start a umbrella project for SMALL applications :P
[10:51] <gnomefreak> NV_The_Riper: english in here
[10:51] <vmadmin> gnomefreak; thanks but i cannot see what the bot said because i do not have a browser
[10:51] <jeff303> shylock, yeah, not sure why it is complaining about hdd
[10:51] <richs> Mattia what OS you got?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> vmadmin: w3m is installed by default
[10:51] <shylock> jeff303, isnt hdd the physical disc and hda the partition?
[10:51] <Mattia`> i've got Winshit Xp and Ubuntu The Dapper Drake
[10:51] <Mattia`> :K
[10:52] <richs> Distro, Linux
[10:52] <Flannel> shylock: no, hdX where X is a letter, is a disk, then the numbers (hda1 hda5, etc) are different partitions.
[10:52] <ENE|Toxic> How do I scan/detect wireless accesspoints ?
[10:52] <Mattia`> but now i want to install mac os x Darkwin developed with unix
[10:52] <Mattia`> richs i love ubuntu
[10:52] <Mattia`> :)
[10:52] <jeff303> shylock, hmm it may not be possible to resize ntfs partitions from the software on the livecd
[10:52] <fb> hi, every firefox extenssion install failed with a wrong version. (i'm 1.0.8). i know about the version naming scheme of ubuntu vs firefox and have tried the about:info tips. any other link ?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> !offtopic
[10:52] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[10:52] <richs> Ok Ok ubotu
[10:53] <Mattia`> and you?
[10:53] <Cliffb53> hi everyone
[10:53] <shylock> jeff303, thing is i get the same problem when i try to use the installation partitioner
[10:53] <richs> just tryin to get familiar
[10:53] <Mattia`> lol
[10:53] <richs> Ok Ubuntu problem
[10:53] <gnomefreak> richs: this is a _support_ only channel
[10:53] <mikeo1> why when im updating does synopic want to install xserver-xorg-driver-nv?
[10:53] <jeff303> shylock, yeah, they're both most likely invoking ntfsresize
[10:53] <Mattia`> what's yuor problem man?
[10:53] <mikeo1> though nv was the shitty driver
[10:53] <gnomefreak> Mattia`: me?
[10:53] <jeff303> shylock, try to see if you even have ntfsresize (try to invoke it)
[10:53] <ENE|Toxic> How do I scan/detect wireless accesspoints ? I need to know which accesspoints are available before I can connect to them.
[10:53] <richs> I can't find the shortcut (desktop) to open the console
[10:53] <Mattia`> no
[10:54] <richs> just installed ubuntu server
[10:54] <Xenguy> !tell richs about terminal
[10:54] <gnomefreak> richs: applications>accesories>termianl
[10:54] <Mattia`> i'm talking with RichiH
[10:54] <nickrud> mikeo1, it's only replacing the already existing nv driver, it's not going to change the driver you've selected for X
[10:54] <Mattia`> azz
[10:54] <richs> and added enlightenment
[10:54] <Mattia`> *richs
[10:54] <Moon_W> hi guys may i ask a question about ubuntu ?
[10:54] <vmadmin> gnomefreak: yes it is thankyou
[10:54] <shylock> jeff303, i have it
[10:54] <imonkey> for school i need to type papers in .doc is there a package for ubuntu that can eddit/write a .doc?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> Moon_W: yes shoot
[10:54] <soundray> !ask
[10:54] <Flannel> imonkey: yeah, open office.
[10:54] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[10:54] <Mattia`> imonkey
[10:54] <Mattia`> anyway
[10:54] <richs> imonkey?
[10:55] <Mattia`> yuo can rename yuour file in .doc
[10:55] <Mattia`> :)
[10:55] <jeff303> shylock, try to do "ntfsresize -if /dev/hda1"
[10:55] <Mattia`> *you
[10:55] <shylock> jeff303, should i try to run it verbose?
[10:55] <richs> wow these messages scroll fast
[10:55] <vmadmin> nickrud:  a jaw in the hand is woth two in the bush
[10:55] <gnomefreak> !enter
[10:55] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:55] <Flannel> shylock: defrag your ntfs first though.
[10:55] <imonkey> Mattia`: won't that give any problems?
[10:55] <nickrud> vmadmin, I have a new respect for mandibles
[10:55] <RichiH> Mattia`: no, you are not ;)
[10:55] <Moon_W> thanx.i have a intel wifi card on my laptop..is ubuntu support that?
[10:55] <jeff303> shylock, don't worry that won't write to the disk at all
[10:55] <Mattia`> mmm
[10:55] <Mattia`> yes why not
[10:56] <Mattia`> use openoffice :K
[10:56] <richs> ok, can anyone help me open the Console?
[10:56] <imonkey> Flannel: do you know how i should save the file in open office?
[10:56] <Mattia`> richs
[10:56] <Mattia`> the console
[10:56] <Mattia`> is
[10:56] <soundray> !enter
[10:56] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:56] <Mattia`> on the menu bar
[10:56] <nickrud> richs, applications->accessories->terminal, or alt-ctl-F1
[10:56] <Flannel> imonkey: you can same it as a doc...
[10:56] <Mattia`> in accessories section
[10:56] <shylock> Flannel, how do i do that?
[10:56] <teletubbie> RichiH, application -> accesories -> gnome-term,inal
[10:56] <Xenguy> Mattia`: do you *want* to get kicked?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> ar Mattia`
[10:56] <Mattia`> ?
[10:56] <Mattia`> azz
[10:56] <Flannel> shylock: boot to windows and defrag
[10:56] <Moon_W> actually i have intel pro wireless 2200 bg card,need i install any drivers?
[10:56] <jeff303> Flannel, he can't
[10:56] <ENE|Toxic> How do I scan/detect wireless accesspoints ?
[10:56] <lanfeust> richs: what do u want to know about the console?
[10:56] <Flannel> ah.  well, nevermind then.
[10:57] <vmadmin> nickrud: you have my permission to unlock yourself from your your desk and get on the Desktop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:57] <Mattia`> ?
[10:57] <Mattia`> O_O
[10:57] <yggdrasil> whats a good monitor to check wwich processes are using ram ?
[10:57] <_jason> yggdrasil: top
[10:57] <yggdrasil> or how much rame processes are using?....
[10:57] <Mattia`> gnomefreak?
[10:57] <richs> lanfeust
[10:57] <Xenguy> !ignore
[10:57] <ubotu> Xenguy: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Mattia`: the rules obey the rules
[10:57] <teletubbie> mooky, I dunno, but you can dl the livecd and see if it works out of the box
[10:57] <nickrud> !tell Mattia` about enter
[10:57] <jeff303> yggdrasil, GUI: System Monitor, terminal "top"
[10:57] <richs> i can't open the console with a keyboard shortcut
[10:57] <gnomefreak> you have been warned for the last 15 mins
[10:57] <Mattia`> ok ok ok
[10:57] <teletubbie> I recommend Dapper beta 2. I had few issue with breezy detecting my card
[10:57] <Mattia`> sorry
[10:57] <pat2man> ENE|Toxic: are you using breezy or dapper?
[10:58] <nickrud> vmadmin, I'm not locked today, I came for help, & got sucked in again :)
[10:58] <ENE|Toxic> pat2man: breezy
[10:58] <shylock> jeff303,  seems fine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13447
[10:58] <lanfeust> richs: don't know how to do that
[10:58] <soundray> richs: do you want a terminal window or a text console?
[10:58] <yggdrasil> ahh frickin gaim was cloging up all my ram
[10:58] <richs> text  console Bash
[10:58] <yggdrasil> thansk guys
[10:58] <soundray> richs: Ctrl-Alt-F1
[10:58] <yggdrasil> i usualy use top justs wasnt sure about gui
[10:58] <teletubbie> to go back to yuor desktop, use alt+ctrl+f7
[10:59] <jeff303> shylock, ok the deal is, I *thought* gparted was supposed to do the resize operation as one atomic step (resize filesystem and partition), but really it is two different steps
[10:59] <jeff303> shylock, so you can try doing both separately but I have never tried it and can't guarantee it won't fubar everything
[10:59] <jeff303> shylock, check out this page:   http://nishants.net/articles/ntfsresize.htm
[10:59] <pat2man> ENE|Toxic: there are a few ways, network-manager which is in the universe section works well some of the time
[10:59] <shylock> jeff303, interesting i am pretty much ready to take any risk
[10:59] <vmadmin> nickrud; all the same you seem to enjoy or endure every minute of it
[10:59] <jeff303> shylock, you should be able to do the "ntfsresize" part first, then resize the partition
[11:00] <Moon_W> well you say ubuntu support my Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG wifi card guys??
[11:00] <richs> cntrol F1 takes me to console yes
[11:00] <ENE|Toxic> pat2man: Sounds neat, are there any console based tools you know of ?
[11:00] <nickrud> vmadmin, enjoy. I choose that def :)
[11:00] <jeff303> shylock, (if you follow the website you should be able to start at #8)
[11:00] <richs> I want to open a window
[11:00] <richs> for using Bash
[11:00] <pat2man> ENE|Toxic: you can do a lot with iwconfig
[11:00] <ENE|Toxic> Moon_W: yes
[11:00] <gnomefreak> richs: go to applications>accesories>terminal right click it and click add to panel
[11:00] <nickrud> richs, then from the top menu bar, applications->accessories->terminal
[11:00] <shylock> jeff303, u think i should try to use recovery console on windows cd to defrag?
[11:00] <Xenguy> !tell richs about terminal
[11:01] <Moon_W> thanx guys see you soon..
[11:01] <richs> sorry, yes
[11:01] <shylock> jeff303, dont know if defrag is even on it
[11:01] <richs> like xterm
[11:01] <jeff303> shylock, are you even able to defrag outside of the Windows GUI?  (I thought not)
[11:01] <pat2man> ENE|Toxic: ant the other iw* tools
[11:01] <ENE|Toxic> pat2man: I've tried the manuals, but I only found options for settings essid's, not scanning for them.
[11:01] <vmadmin> nickrud: learning to use w3m kind of funny
[11:01] <shylock> jeff303, no clue just guessing
[11:01] <soundray> ENE|Toxic: iwlist is what you need
[11:01] <shylock> jeff303, u are probably right
[11:01] <gnomefreak> vmadmin: its fun the more you use it ;)
[11:01] <jeff303> shylock, AFAIK that is not possible
[11:01] <richs> instead of clicking the menu icon
[11:02] <ENE|Toxic> pat2man: It probably is. I wonder why I forgot to search that one. Ok, thanks anyway :)
[11:02] <jeff303> shylock, have you tried to mount the volume in Ubuntu?
[11:02] <richs> trying to learn keyboard shortcuts
[11:02] <delcoyote> wenas
[11:02] <shylock> jeff303, yeah seemed to be working fine
[11:02] <shylock> jeff303, didnt try to read any file though
[11:02] <pat2man> ENE|Toxic: yeah like soundray said, iwlist is probably what you want
[11:02] <nickrud> vmadmin, w3m, mc & mutt: learn those, & you'll have it licked
[11:02] <graveson> what can i use to convert video files(avi and rm) to ipod video format .any guides available
[11:02] <soundray> richs: Alt-F2, enter "gnome-terminal", or create one in System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:02] <gnomefreak> richs: you have to set the keybindings to do that (not sure how well it works)
[11:02] <pat2man> ENE|Toxic: but there are more powerful tools out there, just google them
[11:02] <jeff303> shylock, ok then if you have any really important files, I reccomend trying to mount the drive, copy them to /tmp or wherever, and put them somewhere safe (probably online temporarily)
[11:03] <jeff303> shylock, then proceed with ntfsresize and see if it works
[11:03] <richs> ok ok like installing keybinder
[11:03] <ENE|Toxic> pat2man: Yeah, I'll give google a chance when I'm able to connect in the first place, haha :)
[11:03] <shylock> jeff303, ok, i come back to u whatever happens
[11:03] <soundray> richs: you really need to read the messages you get.
[11:03] <shylock> jeff303, thanks for all your help so far
[11:03] <soundray> richs: System-Prefs-KeybShortcuts
[11:03] <richs> i apt-got keybinder and it messed up my keyboard
[11:03] <shylock> jeff303, really nice community here at ubuntu irc
[11:04] <Minty> newbie question , sorry ahave now got the .deb file to a .tar.bz2 file how do i install it ?
[11:04] <vmadmin> gnomefreak; ok i have got some xt in the search box of google  and the next thing to do is?
[11:04] <richs> soundray
[11:04] <vmadmin> text
[11:04] <nickrud> richs, Alt-F2 then type gconf-editor. Then you navigate to apps/metacity. You're goning to edit two panels in there: global keybindings, & kebinding_commands
[11:04] <richs> i,m not using a kdesktop
[11:04] <richs> i,ve got enlightenment
[11:04] <jeff303> Minty, what are you trying to install?
[11:04] <richs> and iceWM
[11:04] <Minty> skype
[11:04] <shylock> jeff303,  just one more question, do u know where i can read more about the partitioning part
[11:04] <soundray> richs: try #e17 then
[11:04] <nickrud> and ignore me, richs I don't use either
[11:05] <richs> nickrud
[11:05] <shylock> jeff303,  never used any of the programs recommended
[11:05] <Cliffb53> hi everyone
[11:05] <soundray> Minty: much better to use easyubuntu for installing skype
[11:05] <richs> i did that it says that directory doesn't exist
[11:05] <soundray> !easyubuntu
[11:05] <Minty> what is easyubuntu ?
[11:05] <kbrooks> !EASYUBUNTU
[11:06] <soundray> !tell Minty about easyubuntu
[11:06] <kbrooks> ubotu: tell minty about easyubuntu
[11:06] <Flannel> !easyubuntu
[11:06] <jeff303> shylock, here this page seems to have more info about that part:  http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html
[11:06] <jeff303> shylock, go to "How to use ntfsresize from the command line?"
[11:06] <Zarephath> Hey all...I was changing some file permissions for some PDF's that I sent home from work off of a W2000 OS...I noticed there was an option below uid gid called "sticky" can someone point me to information on this permission setting? Or explain it?
[11:06] <richs> ok guys, thanks for the help, i'll try #e17
[11:06] <Cliffb53> I'm setting up Ubuntu for dual-screen and I already have it working. yet, there's something I'm finding awfully annoying that is the fact that when I open a new window for some application, it starts on the most difficult monitor to use (i'm on a laptop and the external monitor is at my left)
[11:07] <Cliffb53> I was wondering if it is possible to setup a main screen so that applications always start in the main screen
[11:07] <NoUse> Cliffb53 http://www.faqs.org/faqs/hp/hpux-faq/section-70.html
[11:07] <Cliffb53> is this possible?
[11:07] <kbrooks> Minty: you may type /join #easyubuntu if you want to chat about it
[11:07] <nickrud> Zarephath, I was just pointed at this by someone, setting the sticky bit on the group for a directory forces any file in that dir to have the same group as the parent directory
[11:08] <high-freq> can someone help me gain a dhcp addy from this wireless card....i have upgraded to dapper drake beta...and it detects the card...i see it in iwconfig  and well its not gettin an ip from the wireless router which is fully open...
[11:08] <unen> so did the new version come out today?
[11:08] <Zarephath> nickrud: Kewl thanks...
[11:08] <high-freq> anyone experienced in wireless
[11:08] <NoUse> unen were you expecting it to?
[11:08] <Mitsurugi> when can we order the new  cds?
[11:08] <nickrud> Zarephath, reading what I just typed, I should modify that to any file *saved* to that dir after the sticky bit has been set
[11:08] <pat2man> does anyone know how the gnome menu decides weather or not to include the *-admin tools? does a user have to be in the admin group?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> pat2man: what tools?
[11:09] <NoUse> Mitsurugi shipit.ubuntu.com says around mid-may
[11:09] <Minty> okay have a easy ubuntu window on screen
[11:09] <pat2man> network-admin, users-admin etc
[11:09] <nickrud> pat2man, dapper is supposed to work that way from what I've read
[11:09] <Minty> should I tick everthing ?
[11:09] <soundray> Minty: last tab, select skype, don't select anything else for now.
[11:09] <meisterwinter> hi
[11:10] <flodine> help please can i use a linux.zip icon file on ubuntu?
[11:10] <Zarephath> nickrud: Gotcha...thanks again
[11:10] <kbrooks> Minty: #easyubuntu
[11:10] <kbrooks> Minty: being offtopic
[11:10] <Minty> last tab 'system' no sype
[11:10] <Zarephath> flodine: If you mean can you unzip it then the answer is yes
[11:10] <soundray> Minty: are you on amd64?
[11:10] <kbrooks> Minty: look in all the tabs. skype isnt for the system
[11:10] <pat2man> gnomefreak, nickrud: right, in dapper admins have them and normal users don't, but for instance I have active directory admins who can sudo but don't get the tools
[11:10] <Minty> yes
[11:10] <meisterwinter> i have a problem with  gproftpd
[11:11] <soundray> Minty: was that "yes, soundray"?
[11:11] <Minty> yes running amd 64
[11:11] <meisterwinter> can anyone help me
[11:11] <flodine> Zarephath well i can uzip it but how do you install it its a icon theme
[11:11] <jeff303> !tell meisterwinter about help
[11:11] <kbrooks> Minty: uh. then you must use openwengo
[11:11] <gnomefreak> meisterwinter: it might help if we knew what the problem was?
[11:11] <meisterwinter> :-)
[11:11] <soundray> Minty: sorry, I have amd64 too, and haven't managed to get Skype to run.
[11:12] <zcat[1] > skype is teh suck.. closed, propriatory monopoly of a voip system..
[11:12] <nickrud> pat2man, I'm not sure about the mechanism for how ubuntu's modifying the menu for each user; I'd guess it doesn't look at active directory (which I am fundamentally clueless about)
[11:12] <Minty> :'
[11:12] <Minty> :(
[11:12] <kbrooks> zcat[1] : dont be a zealot
[11:12] <soundray> zcat[1] : offtopic as you are, you're right
[11:12] <Minty> whats open wengo
[11:12] <kbrooks> soundray: he is being/acting like a zealot
[11:12] <meisterwinter> ok, i dont know how do start gproftp, cant find it
[11:13] <pat2man> nickrud: well it doesn't really have to, I can groupmap and add people to the sudoers, I just don't know how the gnome menu decides wether or not to include the utilities
[11:13] <nickrud> zealot: defined as someone who doesn't agree with me :)
[11:13] <jujuman> g
[11:13] <jujuman> r
[11:13] <jujuman> double e
[11:13] <jujuman> n
[11:13] <jujuman> leaves!
[11:13] <kbrooks> soundray: "free software zealots" -> "qemu > vmware"
[11:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jujuman about enter
[11:13] <kbrooks> soundray: note thats a example
[11:13] <soundray> kbrooks: I know. Stroke his ego a little, and he'll stay as he is. Contradict him, call him a zealot, his ego will grow ;)
[11:14] <vmadmin> hi
[11:14] <Minty> am running icechat on winxp what the eqivalent on linux ?
[11:14] <kbrooks> Minty: what is icechat?
[11:14] <Flannel> Minty: what's icechat do?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Minty: xchat is about the closest
[11:14] <Minty> sorry what i am using to chat to you irc
[11:14] <kbrooks> Minty: xchat.
[11:14] <Minty> k
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Flannel: icechat is a eh irc client
[11:15] <Laibsch> Hi, I use cups with XFCE.  I don't have GNOME nor KDE installed.  CUPS at localhost:631 informs me that admin tasks are disabled for security reasons and that I should go to "MEnu System - Administration - Printing"  Where do I find that in XFCE?
[11:15] <meisterwinter> kopete, gaim, with other messangers
[11:15] <meisterwinter> where can i find gproftp, i have apitude it
[11:15] <gnomefreak> Laibsch: are you on breezy?
[11:15] <trevor_> minty says hello from linux
[11:16] <gnomefreak> Laibsch: thats a gnome menu order to open cups
[11:16] <livingdaylight> hi, how can i know whether my system is 32 or 64 bit?
[11:16] <nickrud> zcat[1] , I've one more question: is there a way to force that file saved to the sticky directory to be read/writeable when a user's default umask is read only groups?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: before you install ubuntu or after?
[11:16] <Laibsch> gnomefreak: yes, I believe so.  The latest stable.
[11:16] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak?
[11:16] <mo0s1> is there a way to write files to an ntfs partition?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: have you installed ubuntu yet?
[11:17] <livingdaylight> yes
[11:17] <g0dchild> gnomefreak, you still here? :P
[11:17] <soundray> livingdaylight: uname -a
[11:17] <livingdaylight> is there a way for me to know?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: your wanting to know what version of kerenl your running?
[11:17] <nickrud> mo0s1, there's a thing called captive ntfs; some people swear by it, some swear at ti
[11:17] <Minty> how do I change my nick
[11:17] <mo0s1> hehe.
[11:17] <gnomefreak> g0dchild: yep
[11:17] <kbrooks> Minty: /nick nick
[11:17] <gnomefreak> Minty: /nick newnick
[11:18] <soundray> Minty: /nick nack
[11:18] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: i want to know whether my computer supports a 32 or 64 bit
[11:18] <meisterwinter> noone knows gproftp?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: amd processer?
[11:18] <kbrooks> livingdaylight: 64bit supports 32 or 64bit ubuntu
[11:18] <kbrooks> livingdaylight: 32bit supports 32bit ubuntu
[11:18] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: hes wanting to know what level processer
[11:18] <livingdaylight> Linux x1-6-00-13-d4-c8-6a-bc 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Sat Mar 11 16:13:17 UTC 2006 i686
[11:18] <mo0se> i should get the non-rpm distribution of captive ntfs, right?
[11:18] <lanfeust> livingdaylight: type arch in the terminal
[11:18] <NoUse> !captive
[11:18] <ubotu> somebody said captive was a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[11:19] <kbrooks> livingdaylight: you're using the x86 kernel
[11:19] <mo0se> ...
[11:19] <mo0se> poop...
[11:19] <emsko> what's the best gnutella client available for ubuntu?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> lanfeust: does that give the arch that you are running?
[11:19] <kbrooks> emile: amule
[11:19] <lanfeust> y
[11:19] <livingdaylight> i686, what does that mean?
[11:19] <mo0se> !flash
[11:19] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:19] <ubuntu> in the ubuntu i have to mount the unit ntfs ?
[11:19] <scifi> anyone good with blender here ?
[11:19] <livingdaylight> kbrooks: what does x86 kernel mean? is that 64 bit?
[11:19] <kbrooks> livingdaylight: no
[11:19] <Laibsch> gnomefreak: What can I do?
[11:19] <mo0se> what type of partitions can ubuntu read and write to?
[11:20] <nickrud> emsko, frostwire
[11:20] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: on you pc somewhere should tell you if its amd 64bit   but your better off running 32bit
[11:20] <kbrooks> livingdaylight: x86 == 32bit
[11:20] <meisterwinter> hmm
[11:20] <soundray> gnomefreak: you don't know that.
[11:20] <NoUse> mo0se all linux partions, and FAT32
[11:20] <livingdaylight> ok, thank you guys
[11:20] <lanfeust> livingdaylight: google it now i686
[11:20] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: er, 64bit pcs and 32bit is compatible
[11:20] <kbrooks> lanfeust: don't say that
[11:20] <kbrooks> lanfeust: thats counterproductive
[11:21] <lanfeust> kbrooks:  :P
[11:21] <HellDragon> hi, anyone can help me with my ati drivers, since this morning i try to make them work
[11:21] <nickrud> lanfeust, doing support, you're expected to google and provide a link
[11:21] <HellDragon> i can open ati config now
[11:21] <HellDragon> but theres no direct render etc...
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Laibsch: im not sure off hand how to set it up in xfce you might want to try in #xubuntu
[11:21] <HellDragon> i get 4 fps at the gear things
[11:22] <HellDragon> im on Dapper
[11:22] <Laibsch> gnomefreak: Thanks, I will try there
[11:22] <mo0se> is there a difference between ntfs and fat32 speed-wise?
[11:22] <eod_punk> hello all
[11:22] <Laibsch> join #xubuntu
[11:22] <gnomefreak> mo0se: not really anything you will notice
[11:22] <lanfeust> nickrud: yep but me I am working on a ppc and I don't know tha answer to what does that mean i686
[11:22] <meisterwinter> i only want you to tell me where i can find gproftp, i have apitude it, but cant find it
[11:22] <mo0se> all right. thanks.
[11:22] <gnomefreak> lanfeust: you forgot the /
[11:22] <soundray> gnomefreak: again, you don't know that.
[11:22] <kbrooks> meisterwinter: um
[11:22] <NoUse> HellDragon dapper support is in #ubuntu+1
[11:22] <Lars_G> Hi, quick question, I just installed dapper flight 6, is the netselect-apt on the def repos for it setup to pull mirror lists for dapper (flight) and not for hoary/breezy/debian ??
[11:22] <gnomefreak> soundray: what dont i know now?
[11:22] <meisterwinter> when i know that i can try me the next part
[11:23] <nickrud> lanfeust, i686 usually means a kernel or other software compiled to run on a pentium II or better
[11:23] <meisterwinter> um?
[11:23] <eod_punk> can you mount a windows partion (for read only) easily?
[11:23] <NoUse> !tell Lars_G about dapper
[11:23] <gnomefreak> soundray: you mean with ntfs and fat?
[11:23] <jeff303> mo0se: the minimum file size in FAT32 is 16K whereas in NTFS it is 4K, that can add up
[11:23] <gnomefreak> thats one thing i do remember from my windows days
[11:23] <Lars_G> NoUse, Arigato godaimasu
[11:24] <kbrooks> Lars_G: do not install flight6. upgrade straight to beta2 immediately
[11:24] <zcat[1] > flight6 is OLD!
[11:24] <kbrooks> hi minty
[11:24] <soundray> gnomefreak: can I pm you?
[11:24] <kbrooks> zcat[1] : too OLD!
[11:24] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:24] <Minty> Hi back with my Linux machine :)
[11:24] <meisterwinter> hm
[11:24] <kbrooks> LOL Minty
[11:24] <eod_punk> congrats minty
[11:25] <unen> ah it was the new linux kernel that came out today
[11:25] <jtd> can I get a hand setting up mail on postfix with dovecot?  when I try to send an email to an address on this machine, I get a returned mail error saying <jtd@vela.homeunix.net>: // 70.224.89.152 does not like recipient. // Remote host said: 554 <jtd@vela.homeunix.net>: Relay access denied // Giving up on 70.224.89.152.  I did set up the MX record with my dyndns account.  anyone have an idea what's going on?
[11:25] <Minty> well congats to early as boy is it complicated
[11:25] <lanfeust> nickrud: it doesn't explain anything what u said. the original question from livingdaylight was which processor I have?
[11:25] <eod_punk> Minty: I hear you, i'm very new as well
[11:25] <zcat[1] > this laptop was originally flight6, but I've probably applied about 3GB of updates since then..
[11:25] <tompkins> how can i have postfix start when my system starts?  i'm running Ubuntu Server, so i don't have access to the Services applet
[11:26] <emsko> Minty, i've been using ubuntu for about a month now
[11:26] <eod_punk> Minty: I'm still trying to figure out how to get my wifi card working
[11:26] <jtd> tompkins: did you set up postfix already
[11:26] <jtd> ?
[11:26] <Minty> so if I understanf rightly sype and amd64 is not good :(
[11:26] <jtd> if you install postfix via apt, it will always automatically start.
[11:26] <tompkins> jtd, yes
[11:26] <emsko> trust me, it gets easier :)
[11:26] <tompkins> jtd, hmm it isn't :)
[11:26] <jtd> tompkins: you did sudo apt-get install postfix?
[11:26] <tompkins> jtd, i did
[11:26] <jtd> O_o
[11:27] <meisterwinter> ok, i will visit u later, perhaps it isnt so fully then :-)....But first, ubuntu is an insteressant system, good work!
[11:27] <jtd> ps aux | grep postfix
[11:27] <squiddle> tompkins  check the symlink in /etc/rc3.d/
[11:27] <tompkins> jtd, but every time my machine reboots i have to remember to do a "postfix start"
[11:27] <emsko> A big downside to linux is it becomes very irritating whenever you have to use Windows machines
[11:27] <nickrud> lanfeust, ah, I missed that. if they're on ubuntu, cat /proc/cpuinfo will tell
[11:27] <kbrooks> tompkins: /etc/init.d/postfix start
[11:27] <jtd> definitely do what squiddle said
[11:27] <zcat[1] > most 'blobs' are only compiled for i386 .. if you run amd64 or ppc, things like winmodems, w32codecs, nvidia drivers and skype won't be available
[11:27] <tompkins> jtd, well it's running, since i ran "postfix start"
[11:27] <jtd> ok
[11:27] <tompkins> tompkins, how will that help me with making it start at boot
[11:27] <jeff303> emsko, yes... especially when you keep trying to do ls in the command prompt
[11:27] <jtd> but if you reboot, postfix doesn't start by itself...
[11:27] <tompkins> kbrooks, , how will that help me with making it start at boot
[11:27] <meisterw|away> cu
[11:27] <tompkins> jtd, right
[11:27] <emsko> hehe
[11:27] <squiddle> tompkins  if it is not there you can create it
[11:27] <nickrud> squiddle, normal runlevel for ubuntu is /etc/rc2.d (although 3 is identical)
[11:28] <tompkins> squiddle, the symlink is there and doesn't show up as broken
[11:28] <lanfeust> nickrud: I also found another CLI command instead of arch > machine
[11:28] <tompkins> squiddle, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 17 Mar  1 00:49 S20postfix -> ../init.d/postfix
[11:28] <jtd> check rc2.d too, tompkins
[11:29] <tompkins> jtd, it's the same in rc2.d
[11:29] <squiddle> tompkins  if it is not running at the moment you can try running the init script in init.d maybe there are some error messages to see
[11:29] <emsko> it's really amazing to think that such an elegant and powerful os was created almost completely by amateurs and is absolutely free
[11:30] <tompkins> i'm also having problems with lighttpd not starting on boot - that's also in both rc. directories
[11:30] <nickrud> tompkins, there's a pretty good setup for postfix at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix
[11:30] <squiddle> emsko  define amateurs
[11:30] <jeff303> emsko, I wouldn't call some of those guys amateurs
[11:30] <jtd> can you watch the bootup process?  at some point while it's booting you should be able to watch it try to start postfix
[11:30] <tompkins> nickrud, it's all setup, i just need it to start automatically
[11:30] <tompkins> squiddle, good call, there's an error in the init script
[11:30] <emsko> well, i meant "amateur" as opposed to doing it for money
[11:30] <jtd> jeff303: you can be an expert amateur.  an amateur is simply someone who doesn't do what they're amateur in for a living
[11:31] <jeff303> jtd, I see, never heard that definition before
[11:31] <n00buntu> Amateur: 1. A person who engages in an art, science, study, or athletic activity as a pastime rather than as a profession.
[11:31] <jtd> for example, amateur radio :)
[11:31] <tompkins> jeff303, there need be no negative connotation
[11:31] <mikeo1> how do i change my bttv card settings? it detected it wrong
[11:31] <jtd> some hams are utterly brilliant RF engineers
[11:31] <nickrud> 'people who's avocation is ubuntu' might be a better way of saying it
[11:31] <squiddle> ah ok, in german amateur has a connotation
[11:32] <Minty> hah now getting my mails (big exploit for me )
[11:32] <jeff303> I would argue that in common US English amateur has a negative connotation as well, but now we're getting offtopic  :-)
[11:32] <jtd> anyway.  can someone help me interpret these email error messages?
[11:32] <jtd> can I get a hand setting up mail on postfix with dovecot?  when I try to send an email to an address on this machine, I get a returned mail error saying <jtd@vela.homeunix.net>: // 70.224.89.152 does not like recipient. // Remote host said: 554 <jtd@vela.homeunix.net>: Relay access denied // Giving up on 70.224.89.152.  I did set up the MX record with my dyndns account.  anyone have an idea what's going on?
[11:32] <mathieu> amateur literally means "the one who loves" -- not as profession
[11:33] <mathieu> gnomefreak: nothing better to do, then?
[11:33] <tompkins> squiddle, i get  * Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent... postfix/postfix-script: fatal: usage: postfix start (or stop, reload, abort, flush, check, set-permissions, upgrade-configuration) [fail] 
[11:33] <eod_punk> any give me a clue as why when i do "fdisk -l" it just brings another command prompt and not a list of devices?
[11:33] <tompkins> squiddle, when running /etc/init.d/postfix
[11:34] <squiddle> tompkins  /etc/init.d/postfix start
[11:34] <gnomefreak> mathieu: this is a ubuntu support channel not a language toturing session
[11:34] <nickrud> jtd, you're trying to send your local mail through your isp, it should be handled locally. There's a file in postfix (which escapes me at the moment) where you override that
[11:34] <gnomefreak> tutoring even
[11:34] <tompkins> squiddle, er, that's what i meant to type
[11:34] <Poker> how could i know if i have Ubuntu breezy or Ubuntu Dapper
[11:34] <Poker> ?
[11:34] <tompkins> squiddle, i did use the start
[11:34] <HellDragon> brb
[11:34] <gnomefreak> Poker: lsb_release -a   type that in terminal
[11:34] <nickrud> Poker, lsp_release -a in a terminal
[11:34] <jeff303> eod_punk, no error messages?
[11:34] <jtd> nickrud: what?  what do you mean?
[11:35] <mathieu> gnomefreak: as long it's not bothering people who are actually help... or do you just like policing the place?
[11:35] <Poker> and witch is the difference ?
[11:35] <mikeo1> where is the kernel source tree in ubuntu dapper amd64?
[11:35] <jeff303> eod_punk, did you try sudo?
[11:35] <mathieu> +ing
[11:35] <mikeo1> in teh filesystem
[11:35] <gnomefreak> !offtopic
[11:35] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:35] <squiddle> tompkins  try it with check, maybe postfix can get what is wron with the config (if it is wrong)
[11:35] <tompkins> squiddle, no output
[11:35] <gnomefreak> mathieu: im not here to debate rules with users please see !ircrules and !coc for channel rules
[11:35] <jtd> nickrud: that's what happened when I sent an email to my machine from my Yahoo account.
[11:36] <eod_punk> jeff303: thanks I always forget the sudo
[11:36] <jeff303> eod_punk, no problem, but I would hope you got an error message without it...
[11:36] <mathieu> gnomefreak: mind you, the only thing _you_ do is telling ppl this is only about ubuntu in english. so you better go to #ubuntu-offtopic!
[11:36] <dasenjo> Hi, I'm using an Intel ICH6 Family sound card. kernel 2.6.12, ths sound module is snd_hda_intel, alsamixer works, but I still cant hear anything ..
[11:37] <eod_punk> jeff303: no error message just the next prompt like it executed the command without any output
[11:37] <gnomefreak> mathieu: im not gonna argue with you about this you know the rules follow them please
[11:37] <crimsun> dasenjo: pastebin output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[11:37] <squiddle> dasenjo  have you unmuted the channels?
[11:37] <dasenjo> xmms and rythmbox seems playing .. no error but no sound
[11:38] <mathieu> gnomefreak: you know i'm not arguing the rules. i argue the enforcement of them
[11:38] <hunter85> hi people!
[11:38] <deus> how can i reconfigure my language and locale, ever since i upgraded to ubuntu it have complained thats its wrong locale.
[11:38] <eod_punk> my rythmbox will not play mp3's? lol
[11:38] <jenda> dasenjo: hmm... no idea how to get the sound - but I can get you an error, if you wish ;)
[11:38] <jeff303> eod_punk, ok tried it out, it seems without sudo it wil just list those filesystems you have permission on (in your case, none), I guess it's normal
[11:38] <dasenjo> squiddle, yes
[11:38] <zcat[1] > eod_punk: by default no, they're non-free..
[11:38] <soundray> Is there a way to tell on an NFS server which clients have currently mounted an export?
[11:38] <dasenjo> jenda, no, thanks .. :p
[11:38] <eod_punk> jeff303: thanks for making sure i'm not crazy
[11:39] <n00buntu> !restrictedformats
[11:39] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:39] <eod_punk> zcat: I have jeff303: none just brings up the next command prompt like it executedto download the codec for it?
[11:39] <dasenjo> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13450
[11:39] <eod_punk> man chatzilla for linux sucks
[11:39] <jeff303> eod_punk, well my guess is their code is something like "for every file system user owns, output info on filesystem", so it just doesn't output anything  :-)
[11:39] <Zoo> hello all, I would highly like to either A. Get my 802.11 b/g Wireless LAN  , B. Alternative , Wisecom 802.11b Wireless PCMCIA Card (GL242201-0T) , working in ubuntu and Xandros :)
[11:39] <tompkins> eod_punk, chatzilla in all its forms sucks
[11:39] <hunter85> may I contact anyone of you to get any infos about ubuntu?
[11:40] <nickrud> jtd, I'm no expert with postfix or networking, but: nslookup 70.xx gives me a 192.168 address. That doesn't look right
[11:40] <Zoo> btw, I watched that, Google , with Mark Shuttleworth :P
[11:40] <meisterw|on> anyone knows it now, where i can find grproftp, i think its a simple question for non linux newbies
[11:40] <eod_punk> I liked chatzilla on the windows side
[11:40] <tompkins> eod_punk, ERC!
[11:40] <Zoo> hey EO_
[11:40] <_jason> hunter85: hi hunter, you can just ask the channel, and if anyone can help, they will
[11:40] <Zoo> hey eod_punk
[11:40] <jtd> nickrud: o_O
[11:40] <eod_punk> yes zoo?
[11:40] <Zoo> use Opera m8 :)
[11:40] <soundray> !info gproftpd
[11:40] <eod_punk> k
[11:40] <hunter85> thank you jason!
[11:41] <meisterw|on> ahh, a response....yea
[11:41] <Zoo> I use, Opera 9 , for alot of all my desires hee :P and they integrated Bittorent in it m8, I been using it since opera 7, former long user of Mozilla :)
[11:41] <deus> whats the command for going trough a locale change?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> deus: sudo dpkg --reconfigure locales
[11:42] <dasenjo> crimsun, any idea?
[11:42] <Poker> can you suggest me a good avi player, please ?
[11:42] <meisterw|on> ok, i think i will ask you the next day,  its to late today...
[11:42] <jeff303> Poker, totem, with w32codecs package installed
[11:43] <crimsun> dasenjo: sec, I'm in a meeting
[11:43] <meisterw|on> cu and gn8 @all
[11:43] <nickrud> Poker, mplayer, vlc, totem-xine, xine with the codecs
[11:43] <chapium> i found they all work fine with appropriate codecs
[11:43] <hunter85> so I'm a windows user but I'd like to install Ubuntu... 'cause I love it as I tried it... so I got a second hd and I'd like to install ubuntu on it, keeping windows as primary OS... what kinda settings should I use for installing or... is anything I should be supposed to take care of?
[11:44] <ENE|Toxic> WPA wlan problem. Pastebin ==> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13452 | wlan card: intel pro 2200
[11:44] <nickrud> hunter85, you should simply tell the installer to take over the second drive.
[11:44] <zcat[1] > I prever vlc or mplayer.. but with w32codecs installed most of the players will play everything just fine
[11:44] <hunter85> and the boot loader?
[11:44] <Poker> jeff303,  where could i find w32codecs ?
[11:44] <hunter85> will it set everything automatically??
[11:45] <zcat[1] > tell poker about !restricted
[11:45] <nickrud> hunter85, it will be installed to the mbr of the first drive, and will recognize & set up your windows on the first drive for booting
[11:45] <jeff303> Poker, one sec I'll tell you the repository to add
[11:45] <zcat[1] > .. umm something like that?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> hunter85: just install it to the sec harddrive and grub will set itself up
[11:45] <Poker> thank you
[11:45] <zcat[1] > source o matic :)
[11:45] <nickrud> !w32codecs
[11:45] <crimsun> dasenjo: have you tried unmuting and setting all of the following to 80%? Front, Surround, Center, LFE
[11:46] <hunter85> so that I can choose what OS to use as well... I imagine
[11:46] <nickrud> dear ubotu's being difficult
[11:46] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[11:46] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ^^ zcat[1]  that?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> !+w32codecs
[11:46] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install. To use w32codecs on a 64-bit system, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[11:46] <zcat[1] > yeah.. it's great!! very good for quickly gettign a clean sources.list when someone's been playing with easy ubuntu :)
[11:46] <eod_punk> whats the command to unmount a dev?
[11:46] <jeff303> Poker, you can add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
[11:46] <gnomefreak> nickrud: it was too long for channel use the !+ to get by that
[11:47] <jeff303> Poker,
[11:47] <jeff303> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[11:47] <nickrud> hunter85, precisely. Ubuntu is not so stupid as to cut off new users from their windows
[11:47] <nickrud> gnomefreak, thanks
[11:47] <gnomefreak> anytime
[11:47] <zcat[1] > windows is very good at nuking grub though..
[11:47] <hunter85> eheh ;) thank u so much guys!
[11:47] <kbrooks> zcat[1] : EU doesnt overwrite your sources.list
[11:47] <Poker> ok
[11:47] <eod_punk> is there a way to edit grub to make the default different?
[11:47] <zcat[1] > eU does if you check the 'change sources list' box.
[11:48] <Poker> thank you jeff303
[11:48] <jeff303> Poker, np
[11:48] <n00buntu> ENE|Toxic, you should change -Dmadwifi to -Dipw if you're using the ipw2200 driver
[11:48] <nickrud> eod_punk, change the default boot stanza in menu.lst in /boot/grub
[11:48] <ENE|Toxic> n00buntu: will try that, thanks :)
[11:49] <eod_punk> thanks nickrud
[11:49] <zcat[1] > perhaps they dropped that more recently.. but I've ran into a few users who checked everything and/or ran it more than once, and ended up with sources apt couldn't follow..
[11:50] <MrMaDSeN> hi!  anyone got a minute? :)
[11:50] <Zoo> hey gnomefreak
[11:50] <ENE|Toxic> n00buntu: That worked just great. Indeed sometimes the obvious just isn't obvioius enough. Thanks
[11:50] <jeff303> MrMaDSeN, don't ask to ask, just ask
[11:50] <nickrud> eod_punk, there's a line that starts with default at the beginning of the file; change that to the index of the title you want (start counting at zero)
[11:50] <gnomefreak> hi Zoo
[11:50] <n00buntu> ENE|Toxic, yw
[11:50] <zcat[1] > !ask
[11:50] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[11:50] <jujuman> hello
[11:51] <jujuman> does anyone here know how to stop the x11 server so i can install these nvidia drivers?
[11:51] <Zoo> i wasn't too into gnome alot.. was all into KDE< however, found that, gnome, ran faster, and best in support.. that was workstation.. I have had a long jourreney, with this Acer Aspir e3610, I Hope you guys aint' mad at me still, I took myself off that Effexor XR, and I"m anxiety free.. :)
[11:51] <nickrud> jujuman, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:51] <zcat[1] > jujuman: ctrl-alt-F1, log in, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:51] <squiddle> jujuman  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:51] <MrMaDSeN> jeff303: hehe.... my charset is iso-8859 western set correctly on keyboard.. but when i ssh to a server my terminal doesn't show that charset... its still utf
[11:51] <jujuman> ok thank you
[11:51] <nickrud> jujuman, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm afterwards
[11:52] <jujuman> ty
[11:52] <Zoo> I watched that, Mark Shuttleworth, too bad I couldn't of been there, however, if he comes to Chicago, I will defanately go,
[11:52] <nickrud> jujuman, ergh,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start :)
[11:52] <Poker> hey jeff303 do you suggest me to keep the repository added or it would be better to del it after the installation
[11:52] <Zoo> June 1st, I can't wait, man I wish it would just get here, :(
[11:52] <zcat[1] > then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the nicest way to reconfigure X
[11:52] <jeff303> Poker, I would keep it there, in case they ever issue an upgrade it will pick it up, but it's up to you
[11:52] <tech_> faen
[11:53] <jeff303> MrMaDSeN, sorry buddy don't know how to fix that
[11:53] <nickrud> Poker, general wisdom says, don't leave an unofficial source active except when you are actively using it
[11:53] <tech_> anyone now about WoW working in ubuntu?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> !wow
[11:53] <ubotu> wow is probably To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WoW and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[11:53] <Poker> ok thank you
[11:53] <MrMaDSeN> jeff303: ok... how do I set the default charset correctly then?  maybe that'll help? :)
[11:53] <mick> can anyone help a me get dual monitors working?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> tech_: ^^^ for wow
[11:53] <zcat[1] > nickrud: really? I leave them active so I get updates (things like quinn's compiz repo)
[11:54] <NoUse> gnomefreak the first wiki link ubotu gives isn't right, it should be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WoWguideWine-SE
[11:54] <lokomotyv> oi
[11:54] <NoUse> gnomefreak correction
[11:54] <tech_> !wow
[11:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WoW and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[11:54] <NoUse> gnomefreak looks like that page is gone
[11:55] <Zoo> hey, anyone wireless professional, expert, or knowledge, great deal, I go to college for it, however with building and configuring drivers, my goal. and designing Artificiial Intelligence System, maybe integrate that into ubuntu, Maybe, ubuntu next release, have  VMware player in it :)
[11:55] <gnomefreak> i think im seeign that too
[11:55] <nickrud> zcat[1] , who knows what might get dropped into that source? If you trust the archive manager, ok. Otherwise, they might drop in something to support something they're distributing that might conflict with something from somewhere else.
[11:55] <Zoo> I just would like to be able to use, my Acer Aspire, 802.11 b/g
[11:55] <gnomefreak> hold up a sec
[11:55] <lokomotyv> aaaa
[11:55] <NoUse> gnomefreak found it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft
[11:55] <eod_punk> nickrud:  for grub would i need to change the entry "root  (hd0,0)" to "root  hd0,1)" to make it the default?
[11:55] <zcat[1] > that reminds me.. someone is going to have to walk me through getting MSIE working under wine ..
[11:56] <ricky> what is the command to go to root mode in the terminal?
[11:56] <dasteve2> hi there, can anyone help me with an issue regarding the fglrx driver for ati vid cards?
[11:56] <squiddle> ricky  sudo -i
[11:56] <nickrud> eod_punk, no, look towards the top of the file, for a line that starts with default. It should have a 0 following. That's the line you will alter
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ty NoUse it will be fixed
[11:56] <jeff303> MrMaDSeN, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:56] <ricky> thank you squiddle
[11:56] <graveson> what can i use to convert video files(avi and rm) to ipod video format .any guides available
[11:56] <zcat[1] > graveson: mencoder
[11:57] <Zoo> anyone know if, Wisecom 802.11b Wireless PCMCIA Card (GL242201-0T)   would be faster than, Mobile Intel 910GML Express chipset with integrated graphics; 802.11b/g WLAN    o.o
[11:57] <mick> where does xorg.conf live?
[11:57] <nickrud> mick, /etc/X11
[11:57] <Zoo> ricky
[11:57] <mick> thx
[11:57] <Zoo> you also can type,  sudo su -
[11:57] <Poker> ehm....Intel Centrino is 586...isn't it ?
[11:57] <Zoo> and you'll be, root@ubuntu etc
[11:57] <eod_punk> nickrud: ok i found that, do I need to alter anything towards the bottom to make windows boot by default?
[11:57] <zcat[1] > sudo -i
[11:57] <ricky> thank you all very much
[11:57] <crimsun> Poker: 686
[11:57] <Zoo> heck, you could even make your own configuratino hot key lmao
[11:57] <Poker> ok
[11:58] <Zoo> any wireless experts in here lol
[11:58] <Zoo> I'm IT, but I don't consider myself expert, yet :P
[11:58] <nickrud> eod_punk, now, start counting all the lines that start with title ( 0, 1, 2, etc) when you get to windows, that's the number you'll put on that default line
[11:58] <bjv> !powernowd
[11:58] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bjv
[11:58] <Zoo> not  with all the knowledge out in the world, I never could :)
[11:58] <Zoo> ubuntu next release, needs to be, total wireless supportive :D
[11:58] <eod_punk> nickrud: ahhh ok
[11:58] <Zoo> Acer,,, cough cough,, plz ubuntu :P
[11:58] <bjv> im searching the wiki, is there a howto for enabling AMD frequency scaling?
[11:59] <Zoo> hi zcat
[11:59] <dasteve2> zoo, what you trying to do with wireless?
[11:59] <zcat[1] > Zoo: great. You start by persuading chipset suppliers to release docs :)
[11:59] <Zoo> oh thanks :D
[11:59] <mick> so, in order to make myself completely inept, what is the command to edit xorg.conf?
[11:59] <Zoo> hee
[11:59] <Zoo> true :)
[11:59] <Zoo> patience, :P
[11:59] <dasteve2> mick, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:59] <jeff303> mick, use your favorite, gedit, vi, emacs
[11:59] <Zoo> I have this, Acer right,
[11:59] <gnomefreak> NoUse: its been fixed ty for bringing that to my attention
[11:59] <dasteve2> can anyone help me with an issue regarding the fglrx driver for ati vid cards?
[11:59] <mick> tough to have a favorite on day 2 of linux use
[12:00] <mick> lol
[12:00] <Kyozabe1> zoo, it is (wireless supportive)
[12:00] <zcat[1] > mick: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg