[12:15] Anyone knows who decides about the *.edu domains ? === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu [12:19] alexandros_se: planning on starting a university? [12:20] Kind of :) [12:21] I'm not sure... it's probably said somewhere on the ICANN web site, though [12:21] no actually I was elected to the board of a swedish college... [12:21] alexandros_se: congrats :) [12:21] HedgeMage, thanks :) [12:21] well my main project is to create a global internet school [12:22] already spoken to some guys in this channel about this project [12:22] ahh [12:22] an community & e-learning platform that I'm building on... === HedgeMage nods [12:23] (ps. it will become the best) [12:23] :D [12:27] HedgeMage, so what are the criterias for *.edu domains? [12:28] not sure, I've not had one before === kelley [n=kelley@hlfxns01bbf-142068207218.dhcp-dynamic.ns.aliant.net] has joined #edubuntu === kelley [n=kelley@hlfxns01bbf-142068207218.dhcp-dynamic.ns.aliant.net] has left #edubuntu [] === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.9.122] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=Elive_us@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [12:57] hey guys [12:57] ogra, still there? [12:57] !seen ogra [12:57] ogra is currently on #edubuntu #ubuntu [12:58] cbx33, thx [12:58] ;) [12:58] he should be there:p [12:58] yah, but also he was busy 5 hours ago [12:59] maybe still is [12:59] it's past midnight in his area, no? [12:59] ogra, is always busy [12:59] cbx33, are you using -install or -live ? [12:59] mhz, y? [12:59] what d'ya need [01:00] I couls finally successfully boot from PCMCIA CD drive in order to install edubuntu (install.iso) [01:00] BUT [01:00] oooooh mhz [01:01] after rebooting [01:01] is with us [01:01] :) [01:01] Bluekuja, hey mon! [01:01] hehe [01:01] BUT...? [01:01] how much time mauricio [01:01] where did you go? [01:01] cbx33, I endup with just a minimal install [01:01] oh? [01:01] cbx33, no 'nano', no 'openssh-server', etc [01:01] hmm....I've nenver had that [01:01] what does the install log say? [01:02] and it did took his normal time when building ltsp environement during installation process [01:02] check the install logs [01:02] Bluekuja, just sick, again :( [01:02] hmmm, too late [01:02] I wiped it out [01:03] mhz: oh, its all ok now? [01:03] I only have this machine to work and test and I really needed to continue with some documents... so I booted Elive :) [01:03] hehe [01:03] (because edubuntu-live.iso gets me to a busy box :D [01:03] Bluekuja, lot better [01:03] hopefully [01:03] mhz, is it a powerful machine? [01:04] y not use VMWare? [01:04] thin laptop (Fujitsu Siemens B2175, 10 inches, 256 MB, 20 GB, 500 MHz celeron, touchscreen) [01:04] ok mhz great, i'm happy to see you here again [01:04] :) [01:04] Bluekuja, sorry I keep missing so much stuff [01:04] yeah, i was waiting you for a lot of time [01:05] but np [01:05] ;) [01:05] per la matina ? :D [01:05] hehehe [01:05] hehehe [01:05] you know italian really well [01:05] lol [01:06] heheh === jinty [n=jinty@244.Red-83-54-78.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [01:17] lol pete === PeterFA [n=Peter@unaffiliated/peterfa] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA2 [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-172-237.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === AngryElf [n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu === jane_ [n=JaneW@dsl-146-141-13.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [03:46] the more i look at this the more i think willow is a bad idea with a lacky implementation :P [03:46] err [03:46] good idea with a lacking [03:46] need more caffeine [03:47] oh well, it wouldn't be fun if it was easy [03:47] Amaranth: what are the issues? [03:48] hard coded paths, bad documentation, lacking build system [03:48] oh well, here comes the mega patch [03:49] Amaranth: you going to fix it for them? [03:50] i doubt they'll accept a build system that depends on gnome-common :) [03:50] but it's the only autofoo i know [03:50] good enough for us, at least === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === raekism [n=raekism@c-68-38-189-125.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-246-9.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [08:53] goooooood morning all [09:04] hi JaneW [09:08] they're still sleeping [09:10] alright the games up [09:10] come out with ya hands up edubuntugirl === edubuntugirl puts her hands in the air like she don't care [09:11] now wave them around and say ooohh, woooh, oooh ,woooh [09:11] hmmm.. definately influenced by those gangster kids... [09:12] or is it cbx33.... :) [09:12] heheeh [09:12] no sir not me sir [09:12] highvoltage, I've merged your changes the current version of the ESA [09:12] we've started the compilation and categorieation [09:12] cool [09:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy/LaserJock [09:13] we've changed a few sections around and merged one or two [09:13] i like the bullet point idea that LaserJock came up with [09:13] oooh, that's nice [09:13] it's so clean and simple [09:14] yes we had a great idea there [09:14] and readable [09:14] /we/he [09:14] I'll be started to add the applications into the merge in about 2 minutes [09:14] :p [09:15] highvoltage, I can't believe that klinkstatus crashed on me yestreday. [09:15] I think I'll use my own link checker script to check them out [09:16] hmmm... yeah i don't know. been a while since i used klinkstatus. [09:16] hehe [09:16] any news on whether we're going to get shipit cds? [09:16] i think there's many websites that do that checking for you. doesn't w3c have a checker too? [09:17] i think so, but we need one that does nested checking too [09:17] it did throw up a few broken links [09:17] but it died before I could find out what they were [09:23] highvoltage, there's some discusion about whether we should describe the non educational applications? what do you think? I think that something like blender wouild be good to be described [09:23] refresh the page and take a look at what I've added [09:27] hrrm [09:28] please, some edubuntu+1 developers, try pressing ctrl+alt+f1 (to get to console) (alt+f7 to get back) -- let me know if this works ;-) -- [09:28] yep, i think non-edu apps are needed too. esp the essentials like OOo, firefox, etc. many people are afraid that they won't be able to use linux for the basics [09:28] I having been having issue with dapper whereby ctrl+alt+F? does not work from x-server (but 'chvt' command still does) ;-) [09:28] enyc: works for me, which display driver are you using? [09:28] I'll pass this on to LaserJock, I think he was concerned with flooding with information [09:28] I nood to work out where-whon this happens in order te create a bug or not [09:28] enyc, I had this issue way back on fedora :p [09:29] cbx33: he's right though [09:29] highvoltage, i agree [09:29] but if we're careful about which ones we do I think it'll be ok [09:29] highvoltage: hrrm this is on an onbard-sis machine I do not have access te at the moment ;-( [09:29] like blender [09:29] is a fantastic application that needs toeb made more of [09:29] cbx33: although, you could mention that in a sentence... something like "Edubuntu also includes an office suite, web browser and email client." instead of going into all the details [09:29] OO too [09:29] its difficult [09:30] blender doesn't run well on thin clients though, which is why i don't usually make a lot of noise about it. it is a great app, copmletely agreed there. [09:30] hehe, true [09:31] it'll be better when we get local apps no? [09:31] absolutely :) [09:31] I just personally think people are going to need convincing about the OOo application. [09:31] it's probably the single most inportant app to them [09:32] and i wonder if glazing over it and saying it has an office suite is enough [09:32] kinda like we're trying to hide it [09:32] i just refreshed the page, i see what you mean, it's gotten very big again [09:32] hehe [09:32] remove the screenshots [09:32] well [09:32] in your mind [09:32] :p [09:32] i can do that now actually [09:33] people are generally happy when they know they have a word processor, spreadsheet and presentation program [09:34] you could possibly have three screenshot in a row of them, and mention that OOo has database and vector drawing, as well as an html editor too [09:34] yes [09:34] ok a lot smaller now [09:34] ?is NVU the html_editor of choice now? [09:34] nooooooooooo [09:34] ok ;-) [09:34] well [09:34] not for me [09:34] it's good but the css editing needs a lot of work [09:35] in the last version i tried [09:35] high: ?what were you thinking of as tho html_editor there? [09:35] cbbiirc it hast moved from v1 in ages [09:36] highvoltage, i gotta go get up now :p [09:36] join #edubuntu-doc if you have further comments [09:36] then i can scroll back easily [09:36] I'll be back in a while [09:36] enyc: i don't know if it's that great, but it's probably worth mentioning [09:36] cbx33: ok [09:36] highvoltage, so are we thinking more or less for OO === highvoltage needs to get out of bed too [09:37] hehehe [09:37] kk [09:37] highvoltage: but I wanted to know _what_ program was worth mentioning as html_editor ;-) [09:37] quanta [09:37] enyc: well, we can only really mention it if it's included, i think [09:37] true [09:37] quanta is nice, but isn't included with edubuntu [09:37] no [09:38] it's available in universe [09:38] hrrm kk [09:38] but not on cd [09:38] I_see [09:38] and it depends on kdelibs, so we know it won't be in edgy :/ [09:39] although, it *might* go on the add-on cd, but it's a bit unlikely since we have nvu, which is almost as nice as quanta, but gtk/gnome based [09:39] .... and edubuntu is gnome.... and there is no kedubuntu iirc ;-) [09:41] lol, we had a nice play on words at the edubuntu summit [09:44] highvoltage, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LinuxTagTalk.pdf [09:45] but its all german and the slides are quite empty, probably lucasvo can translate for you [09:45] enyc, try nvu [09:45] ciao all === highvoltage likes vim for html === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === bugman [n=bugman@host-84-221-5-135.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [10:36] highvoltage: do you wan't me to translate it? [11:55] highvoltage, lisa just about to start work on thewallpaper === pygi [i=bla@83-131-244-22.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [12:31] JaneW: all is done === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [12:34] ogra: around? [12:51] pygi, nope [12:51] he's doing his talk i think [12:51] ah, nice [12:52] hi cbx33 btw. :) [12:52] hi === froud [n=froud@dsl-145-47-33.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [01:01] lucasvo: would be nice, but no rush. we could probably adapt it to use as some standard presentation, although I haven't seen it yet- don't have enough bandwidth [01:01] lucasvo: how larg is it [01:01] ? [01:01] cbx33: nice :) [01:04] yeh? [01:04] I;m working on the BETT show proposal [01:07] the wallpaper is taking shape :p [01:08] when is edgy due out? [01:08] :p [01:08] I'm thinking ahead dont worry, doing some planning :p [01:09] 1 June [01:09] highvoltage, edgy :p [01:10] dapper is 1 June isn;t it :p [01:11] cbx33: two versions, same day :) [01:11] ah, right :) [01:11] pygi, heheh that'd be cool [01:12] but would kinda make dapper a little useless [01:12] originally, it was going to be six months after the orignal dapper [01:12] which was due for april 20 [01:12] and it's delayed by two weeks, which means... [01:12] about December? [01:12] early november. [01:12] excellent [01:12] that makes cbx33 very happy :p === highvoltage too [01:17] highvoltage, got a sec in a minute to have a look at the BETT proposal I'm drafting [01:17] still in very early stages [01:17] yep [01:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BETTShow2007 [01:17] I'm still editing [01:20] it's already very good [01:20] :D [01:20] getting there [01:21] I'll let you know when I've done some more [01:21] does JaneW normally pop in at the weekends? [01:21] occasionally [01:22] best to talk to her monday again, or e-mail [01:22] ok === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [01:29] afternoon edubuntugirl [01:31] hi cbx33 [01:31] edubuntugirl seems a bit sleepy still [01:31] highvoltage: what? [01:32] or is it that highvoltage is still a bit sleepy :p [01:32] highvoltage, refresh page :p [01:32] there is more :p === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-172-237.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Ekushey [i=blackmor@cyberpunks.gr] has joined #Edubuntu === meole [n=mel@217.19.180.65] has joined #edubuntu [04:49] is ogra giving a talk at linuxtag? [04:50] i think so [04:50] he's giving atalk anyway [04:51] i think i'm watching him right now [04:51] too bad it's in german :P [04:51] heheh [04:51] you're there? [04:51] someone is talking about edubuntu but i can't really seem them [04:51] no [04:51] online? [04:51] link me [04:52] http://stream.fluendo.com:8806/ === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-205-174.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [04:54] !seen hedgemage [04:54] hedgemage was last seen on IRC in channel #edubuntu, 16h 26m 8s ago, saying: 'not sure, I've not had one before '. [05:10] neat [05:10] !seen ogra [05:10] ogra was last seen on IRC in channel #edubuntu, 7h 24m 42s ago, saying: 'ciao all'. [05:12] Amaranth: yeah, I saw someone use it here a few days ago [05:13] i suppose it works in #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 too [05:14] possibly. I've never tried === froud [n=froud@dsl-145-47-33.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [06:23] hi jsgotangco [06:26] hi [06:27] cbx33: how's things? [06:27] yeh going good [06:27] working on some docs and proposals and learning about drupal [06:27] drupal is really neat [06:27] i've yet to update one of my installations to 4.7 though [06:28] hey [06:28] i'm on 4.7 now [06:28] :p [06:28] did you install from scratch? or upgrade from a previous [06:29] from scratch [06:30] i know highvoltage had a bit of trouble upgrading earlier [06:30] yeah i tried doing it 2 days ago, it won't work on me even if i turned off the extra modules i installed early on [06:31] i've yet to look on it again though [06:31] i was luck :p [06:31] i did it from scratch [06:32] yeah but i already have 80MB of data to port over, plus a slew of modules :) [06:33] well i gotta sleep early [06:33] ciao [06:33] ciao === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu [06:42] woooo [06:42] hi Bluekuja [06:42] hi pete :) [06:42] fancy visiting lindon next year :p [06:42] london [06:42] :p [06:42] hehe [06:43] how are you man? [06:43] yeh good [06:43] and how its going the doc? [06:43] yeh [06:43] i havn't done too much [06:44] hoping to speak to LaserJock later [06:44] and highvoltage [06:44] when he returns [06:44] ok great [06:44] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BETTShow2007 [06:44] i've been working on that [06:45] oh nice [06:45] no news on the mails? [06:45] yeh, hence why i asked if you wanted to visit london next year :p [06:45] heheh [06:45] hehe [06:45] no news [06:45] for them [06:45] :( [06:46] by the way ill come to your house [06:46] lol [06:46] heheh [06:46] will you now [06:46] :p [06:46] hehe [06:46] you have any other news? [06:47] hmm [06:47] working on drupal at the moment [06:47] thinking of possibly using it for a website [06:47] oh nic [06:47] e [06:47] just testing it out at the moment [06:47] well its a good platform [06:47] does drupal have multilingual capabilities? [06:48] mmm...i think yeas, highvoltage talked about it to me some time ago [06:48] cool I'll need that [06:48] about italian language [06:49] have you ever tried mambo? [06:51] yes [06:51] i'm currently using mambo [06:51] thinking of moving the site over to drupal [06:51] well its a nice cms software [06:51] but you have got also a forum? [06:52] no [06:52] don;t need one [06:52] well in my opinion it would be nice to have one [06:52] its for your lug? [06:52] on edubuntu ? [06:52] oh [06:52] no this is for another project [06:52] does your lug have one? [06:54] not yet [06:54] they use my old media wiki [06:55] oh okie [06:55] if you need help with a forum, just ask me [06:55] ok [06:56] phpbb is what i normally use [06:56] i use smf [06:56] :) [07:11] cbx33: my lug uses a mediawiki i set up too :) === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [07:20] cbx33: have you had a chance to check ESA/LaserJock? [07:23] LaserJock [07:23] reallly nice [07:23] *really === kelley [n=kelley@hlfxns01bbf-142068207218.dhcp-dynamic.ns.aliant.net] has joined #edubuntu === kelley [n=kelley@hlfxns01bbf-142068207218.dhcp-dynamic.ns.aliant.net] has left #edubuntu [] [07:40] LaserJock, yes [07:40] did you see my changes [07:41] yep [07:41] look good? [07:42] yeah [07:42] we need to finish the educational apps section, and fill in the Q&A a bit, IMO [07:42] yes [07:42] but largely we're done [07:43] highvoltage, thinks the bullet sections is great [07:43] I think so [07:43] as do I === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === humbolt [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #edubuntu [08:14] what is the ltsp status in dapper? [08:17] What version of ltsp is in there? Do we have support for local CDs, USB storage, floppy yet? What about sound support? [08:17] :p [08:17] in the ubuntu implementation sound works [08:18] local devices not [08:18] at least not out of the box [08:18] automatic lights are annoying [08:22] humbolt: when you ask, version of ltsp, what do you mean? [08:23] humbolt: ubuntu doesn't use the ltsp implementation you would download at ltsp.org [08:23] which version according to ltsp.org [08:24] but they get and modify it form there, don't they? [08:25] ubuntu ltsp goes over ssh [08:25] ltsp.org goes with XDMCP [08:25] ltsp.org ltsp does support localdevices [08:26] and stuff [08:26] humbolt: nope [08:27] humbolt: ubuntu builds the ltsp chroot from ubuntu packages [08:27] ubuntu ltsp does always go over ssh even without ldm installed? [08:29] spacey: so no local device support yet in ubuntu [08:29] technically, you can remove ldm, install gdm, and enable XDMXP [08:29] *gasp* [08:29] XDMCP [08:29] not yet, no. [08:29] that's in the line for edgy [08:29] highvoltage: will not make it in dapper? [08:29] too bad [08:29] nope, dapper is in feature freeze [08:30] yeah, would be nice to have it now. [08:30] there is one thing I don't like about linux distro development cycles, one thing that should change! [08:30] and that is? [08:33] distros should be handled like linux kernels used to be. since dapper is going to be supported for 5 years, the base should be kept but updates provided. supported updates. like local devices for ltsp or the newest kde version. Now, I can only get them, if I go for edgy, which will introduce a whole lot of new potentially unstable technologies. === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu [08:34] somehow something like backports releases, so all backport packages actually go together well. [08:34]