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m0narkis the website down?12:07
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daleXXgribbeli'm using an ATI video card, and 3d acceleration has been working fine for months.  yesterday i rebooted, and now the system is hanging after it finishes loading all of the startup items, and never reaches the login screen12:09
daleXXgribbeli checked top after this, and it says that Xorg is using 99.6 CPU12:09
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ParkotronSomething keeps setting my PCM volume at 100%, making everything sound harsh and ugly. Does anyone know what might be doing that?12:11
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bestialhi12:14
bestiali have kubunut 6.06 dapper, and i have /var/log/ with 4Gb with this mesage: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)12:15
bestialwhy?12:15
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bestiali have in grub noapic but nothing12:16
bestialcan anyone help me?12:17
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slow-motionn812:25
vinboyhow can I test my HD's performance?12:26
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klarkinhdparm12:32
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klarkin<vinboy> hdparm -t and or -T  (rest of manpage ommited for berevity)12:35
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_s3B4s_hello12:37
vinboythanks klarkin12:37
klarkinno problem - description was too long to paste in ;)12:38
klarkinrtfm afraid :)12:38
klarkin:/12:38
_s3B4s_somebody had any problems with the apache2 in the kubuntu dapper ??12:38
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klarkinyup12:38
blackflagHello all12:38
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_s3B4s_hello12:39
klarkinhello blackfalg12:39
klarkinflag even12:39
blackflagdoes someone know something about over a ubuntu server version?12:39
klarkin?12:39
blackflagI read something on kubuntu.de > dapper drake that ubuntu will give suipport for desktop version 3 year support12:40
_s3B4s_somebody had any problems with the apache2 in the kubuntu dapper ??12:40
blackflagand for the server version 5 years12:40
_s3B4s_somebody had problems with the apache2 in the kubuntu dapper ??12:41
klarkin<_s3B4s_> some but what ?12:41
klarkinmore specific darling12:41
roniezi have problems with apache2 everywhere.12:41
blackflagI never heard something about a server version12:41
blackflagDoes someone know more about it?12:41
roniezcant fingure out how to set up a second "host"12:41
klarkinkubuntu server?12:41
blackflagyes12:41
_s3B4s_i cant see the apaches's default web12:41
_s3B4s_but nobady can't12:42
roniezi couldnt either...12:42
klarkinwell afaik server is a base install k x etc has nothing to do with it12:42
h3sp4wnAnd its only supported on real server gear12:43
h3sp4wn(In the channel)12:43
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_s3B4s_klarkin: i can see apache server if i put my ip adress but for exemple if you do that you can'n acces,12:45
_s3B4s_i hane no router12:46
_s3B4s_and no firewal12:46
klarkinum12:46
_s3B4s_or iptables12:46
_s3B4s_i check all, like the /etc/hosts and its ok12:47
klarkink12:47
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_s3B4s_its says 127.0.0.1 localhost12:47
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_s3B4s_these only happends to me with kubuntu dapper12:48
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reondoes kde need gstreamer ?12:48
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_s3B4s_yes12:49
klarkin<_s3B4s_> indeed (like many other things) - bugger12:49
_s3B4s_so you say that its a bug?12:49
_s3B4s_of kubuntu?12:50
klarkinno comment :P12:50
klarkinsorry12:50
_s3B4s_thanxs any way :D12:50
klarkinsorry cannot be more help12:50
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roniez sudo apachectl start12:52
roniez/usr/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started12:52
roniezwtf.12:52
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coreyanyone know a good wifi manager? ive tried wifi radar and kwifimanager and neither work for me  :(12:56
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kozzknetworkmanager?01:01
klarkinyes01:01
Search4LancerKaffeine is giving me 'signal 11', what do I do?01:02
klarkinkozz: anymore info ?01:02
coreyhrm01:02
kozzklarkin: was a suggestion for corey01:03
klarkink01:03
klarkinr3tardan01d01:03
coreythanks ill try it01:03
coreykwifimanager doesnt work at all01:03
coreyand wifi radar partially works01:03
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GameOver69hey guys i have amarok 1.4 beta 3..... and it finds a new device... (my ipod) but it wont let me connect to my ipod.... no media device mounted or connected?01:05
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coreyyou know where i can get it kozz?01:06
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klarkincorey: what is he problem with kwifimanager? and what card do you have ?01:07
klarkinworks for me dapper release01:07
coreyit wont connect to the network01:07
klarkink01:07
coreyit detects it and i click ok to select it01:07
coreyit does nothing...01:07
thom__dont use kwifimanager01:08
klarkinindeed01:08
thom__its crap01:08
coreynow that im connected it shows connected ap as "UKNOWN WIRELESS AP"01:08
coreyim looking for networkmanager but i cant find it01:08
kozzcorey: running breezy?01:08
WhyMHi! Is there still no way to make xine work over samba shares? (ie play smb://my.great.performance.ogg in Amarok01:08
coreyyea01:08
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coreywith kubuntu too01:08
thom__im running dapper and using network settings in CP01:09
kozzcorey: ok, then you can run the gtk frontend for network-manager01:09
corey?01:09
klarkiniwconfig is always a good bet - not pretty though01:09
kozzcorey: the package network-manager01:09
coreyoh thats it?01:10
kozzcorey: yes, and then run nm-applet from a terminal or such01:10
coreyk installing now01:10
kozzcorey: it will then start automatically for each session01:10
thom__kwifimanager is a good visual tool, but there are better applets for that too01:11
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kozzcorey: not sure whether the network-manager daemon starts automatically after install, you might need to restart dbus or something... or simply restart the computer :)01:12
coreyooo fancy :P01:12
corey!ping01:12
ubotupong01:12
coreyhrm01:12
corey** (nm-applet:8020): CRITICAL **: network_device_get_iface: assertion `dev != NULL' failed01:12
coreyi think its working though01:13
coreyyea seems to be01:13
coreythanks kozz01:13
klarkinsudo /etc/init.d/networking stop/start01:13
kozzno wpa support tho, need to wait for dapper for that :)01:13
coreywep?01:13
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kozzwep is supported01:13
coreyk01:13
coreyi just use 2 wifis01:13
coreymy house and gfs01:14
coreyhers doesnt have wep and mine does01:14
doctormocorey: I have a gf, but 2 wow!01:14
corey?01:14
vursitishallo01:14
doctormotake what you said out of context and it sounds like your saying you have a house and girlfields ;-)01:15
klarkinwpasupplicant? breezy01:15
kozzklarkin: yeah, but thats a bit harder to configure01:15
klarkintime will tell with linux :)01:16
klarkinalways the way01:16
vursitiswould anyone by any chance know a good program for a destructive wipe of freespace on my hard drive.?01:17
klarkinwipe01:17
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vursitisthankyou01:18
klarkinwipe is great01:18
Lorenzodvursitis: would you happen to have a blow-torch lying around? They can be quite destructive.. ;-)01:18
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vursitislol, well yeah, but i would prefer to not physicaly destroy my hard drive01:19
doctormoman I have to fix that damn kde spell checker it really anoyes me01:19
thom__i just zero the drive with the hard drive manufacuter disk01:19
klarkinespecialy if you are running what we run http://asbo.squat.net/facilities/internet/index.html - keeps the police at bay ;)01:19
klarkinwipe -B01:20
klarkinas long as it jits the 3rd cycle01:20
klarkinyour all good :)01:20
klarkinhits even01:20
coreywhy doesnt kubuntu come with a shutdown button on system menu :(01:20
vursitisnow will that destroy only free space? or will that destroy everything?01:21
klarkindon't do wipe -B unless you want to kill everything for ever01:21
klarkin;)01:21
klarkinbut man wipe01:21
klarkinits a nice prog01:21
arthurbHi, I installed digikamimageplugins, but it doesn't show up in digikam, even after I restarted it... ?01:21
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klarkinubuntu kubuntu?01:22
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klarkini had different results with both01:22
vursitisi would prefer to not destroy everything01:22
klarkinindeed01:22
klarkinthen i suggest you partition your free space and wipe -B the free partition01:22
coreyim trying to get a shutdown button on the system menu that gives an option of shutdown and restart..:/01:23
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vursitisactualy thats not a bad idea, ill just use QTpart01:23
klarkinyep01:24
vursitisthankyou01:24
klarkinnp01:24
klarkinwipe is a true killer01:24
klarkin:)01:24
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coreyklarkin, you know hw?01:25
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klarkin+//01:26
klarkinufffff01:26
corey?01:26
klarkinhw as in hardware ?01:26
roniezhm.. wth my motd is read 2 times...01:27
roniezwhen i log on to my box.01:27
roniezhow can i fix.01:27
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coreylol no01:28
coreyto get a 'shutdown' option on the system menu to shutdown/restart01:28
coreyisntead of having to go to cmd line or logoff then shutdown01:28
klarkin<roniez> cat /etc/motd01:29
klarkin&& edit it if needed01:29
roniezyea, and its only shown once if i do that.01:29
klarkinum01:29
roniezshows once wheni cat /etc/motd01:29
klarkinstarnge01:29
roniezbut shows twice when i login to the box.01:29
klarkinstrange even01:29
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klarkincorey: looking ;)01:30
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arthurbHi, digikamimageplugins doesn't seem to be installed correcly by apt, digikam doesn't detect it01:32
arthurbis anyone running it with success ? can someone test / confirm ?01:33
abrahamola01:34
abrahamni un espaol o q01:34
klarkinsorry no01:34
abrahamwo01:34
klarkincorey i assume smeg would work - i just cannot test it as it pulls loads of gnome stuff and i like to keep clear of gnome01:35
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ruisuhi, does any one has seen that while playing on amarok, the output is busy and amarok skips every song till the end of the playlist?01:44
_brandontry switching the sound engine?01:44
ruisuyeah, but i tremendouisly prefer xine01:44
ruisu...01:44
ruisuit never happened in my other distros.. why could this be happening01:45
klarkinme also but it seems to bug out with mp3s with xine01:45
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ruisumhm01:46
=== Lorenzod thinks xine is a bit buggy atm
ruisuso01:46
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ruisugstream work fine?01:46
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crimsunklarkin: are you using dapper?01:46
ruisuno breezy01:47
crimsunhmm, that should work. Does mpg321 work with mp3s?01:47
ruisuletme see01:47
crimsun(phone call)01:47
klarkincrimsun: yup01:47
ruisuhmm, i cant find mpg32101:48
klarkinapt-install on that one methinks01:48
LorenzodI just *have* to announce this: I love digiKam!01:48
klarkin:)01:49
arthurbLorenzod: good, can you install digikamimageplugins ?01:49
ruisuit states there is no candidate01:49
arthurband tell me if it works ?01:49
Lorenzodarthurb: yes, they are all there..01:49
crimsunklarkin: does kaffeine play the mp3s?01:49
ruisuim using arts, though its half second late01:49
LorenzodAnd they work fine.01:49
arthurbmind you, not talking about kipi01:49
arthurbbut digikamimageplugins, like inpainting and the like01:50
klarkinxmms and all other yes but amarok no01:50
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Lorenzodcrimsun: any time I hear that player mentioned I get sad..01:50
ruisumhm01:50
ruisuxmms works just fine01:50
klarkinindeed01:50
Lorenzodarthurb: either am I, although kipi too is installed.01:50
arthurbare you using breezy ?01:51
ruisui am01:51
Lorenzodarthurb: no dapper01:51
arthurbhum so am I01:52
arthurband someone reported it working01:52
arthurbbut doesn't work for me01:52
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Lorenzodwhat doesn't work, installing or using?01:52
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arthurbusing, they don't appear at all in digikam01:53
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bastardswordxmms is sweet01:54
Lorenzodarthurb: if you run digikam from a terminal, does it spit out any errors as it is starting?01:55
klarkin <bastardsword> that and ices2 yeah very sweet ;)01:55
n3ckhi01:55
klarkinmmornin01:55
klarkin-m01:55
Lorenzodxmms is one of those applications I love to hate..01:56
n3cksomebody can help me?01:56
klarkinguess not01:56
Lorenzodnot if you leave before you've even asked your question..01:56
klarkinheheh01:56
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klarkinn3ck: question  :)01:57
klarkinn3ck: what do you need helpwith01:58
klarkin?01:58
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Lorenzoddoes anybody else have problems with kdm/dapper with sessions closing after just a second?01:58
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klarkin<Lorenzod> did have yes01:58
klarkinyakuake and gimp was doing that to me01:59
Lorenzodklarkin: "did" is a good word. It implies you solved it.01:59
klarkinmwa01:59
n3ckvery very slow i can use it like this, i install it in another pcs and its working great, whats wrong with the compaq nx6125 laptop?01:59
klarkinnot really :/01:59
Lorenzodklarkin: does that mean you're still using gdm?01:59
klarkinno i  never use gdm01:59
klarkinused to - but goit turned off02:00
klarkin:)02:00
Lorenzodhehe02:00
klarkin<Lorenzod> you having problems with kdm booting into sessions or prgs dying in sessions?02:01
Lorenzodthe sessions terminates immediately and I'm thrown back into kdm.02:01
klarkinmp32ogg --delete *.mp302:02
klarkinoeps sorry :/02:02
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LorenzodI found an issue relating to SecurityPolicy in /var/log/kdm.log, and I fixed that, but still no go :-(02:02
klarkin<Lorenzod>  umm02:02
klarkininterseting02:02
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klarkinn3ck wb02:02
klarkinn3ck ram cpu ? etc02:03
LorenzodThen again, I think I may have to scrub this system. It's gone Debian->Warty->Hoary->Breezy->Dapper02:03
klarkinwow well done my man02:04
klarkintime for a windowz like re-install :P02:04
klarkinheheh02:04
LorenzodAnd it would pain me to not see it go through the hell that is going to be Edgy ;-)02:04
klarkinhahahahha02:04
klarkintrue say02:04
klarkini must say before going to bed that xgl is working like a treat02:06
klarkinpure eyecandy02:06
klarkinbut hell it worth it02:06
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LorenzodSavage DRI: 0.0000023 fps :-(02:07
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LorenzodRight now I really only have two outstanding issues: kdm and kaffeine02:08
Lorenzodkdm won't allow me in, and kaffeine is, ..er.. braindead!02:08
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Lorenzodvlc does the job for me, but kaffeine is a "pure" kde app.02:09
klarkinforget kaffine02:09
klarkinmplayer is still ze best02:09
Lorenzodthat is true.02:09
klarkinimho02:09
klarkinmore than a movie player02:10
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Lorenzodso many people have so much negative to say about mplayer, but heck it works!02:10
klarkinbut i'm, a mencoder freak aswell so /me bias02:10
klarkinain't vidoe editing fun on linux :P02:10
klarkinheheh02:10
klarkincommand line'O'licious02:10
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rafhello!!02:11
klarkinmorning02:11
rafI'm new to Kubuntu02:11
klarkinthen your in the right place! :)02:12
klarkinwhat can be helped this morning sir02:12
klarkin /miss02:12
rafI have a HP Pavilion 8731c with Intel i810 chipset, and I have no audio and my screen resolution is only 640, no 102402:12
yanisdamn I cant join #kde :/02:12
klarkinsorry always forget the gender ambiguity :)02:12
rafis there linux drivers for i810?02:12
Lorenzodraf: yes02:13
klarkinfirst for the screen resolution try02:13
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klarkinsudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xoerg02:13
Traehmm, wonder why there isn't a #kubuntu+102:13
klarkincopy and paste that02:13
Traeheh02:13
klarkinsudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg -- even02:14
rafok, fire up the console and write sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg -- even?02:14
klarkinand you can play with the resolutions02:14
rafright?02:14
klarkinyeah without the -even02:14
klarkin:)02:14
Lorenzodraf: forget the - even02:14
rafoh, ok02:14
klarkinsotrry typo02:14
TraeIs there a way to make Firefox match up with your KDE theme dead on?  Or is all there is just hacks at best?02:14
Traelike, is there a qt port of firefox?02:14
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Traeor is this where everyone says "USE KONQ!"02:15
LorenzodTrae: there was some talk of kmozilla some time ago.02:15
rafdebconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog02:15
rafdebconf: (Dialog frontend requires a screen at least 13 lines tall and 31 columns wide.)02:15
rafdebconf: falling back to frontend: Readline02:15
rafxserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration02:15
raf   file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20060505191502:15
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rafoops, sorry02:15
klarkini hear they are SELLING firefox these days :/02:15
rafthat's the Sudo response02:15
klarkinraf - don't worry02:16
klarkinnormal02:16
jamieHello everyone.02:16
Traei'm installing kubuntu-desktop now02:16
rafreally? uuff02:16
LorenzodTrae: I would say use konq as much as possible.02:16
jamieWhat is the command that updates the kde menu automatically?02:16
TraeLorenzod, cool... is KDE stable in Dapper?02:16
Lorenzodonly when a site absolutely doesn't work can you use links instead.02:16
jamiekmenuupdate? Or something like that?02:16
klarkinraf: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop02:16
rafok02:16
klarkinraf: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start02:16
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LorenzodTrae: for most parts yes.02:16
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TraeLorenzod, Gnome seems fine in it...02:16
klarkinreplace gdm for kdm if needed02:16
Traejust wanted to give KDE another run.02:17
LorenzodHm.. Gnome is horribly slow for me right now. Too bad because it was really fast for a while.02:17
LorenzodI don't know what happened..02:17
TraeI used KDE exclusively 99-2002  and since then I've been using GNOME.  I try and switch back to KDE from time to time, without success.02:17
klarkin <Lorenzod> top?02:17
Lorenzodklarkin: normally evolution dominates top.02:18
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klarkinhey raf02:18
rafI'm here again02:18
TraeWhat's one of the best looking themes you guys know of for KDE02:18
LorenzodBut then again, epiphany has been doing a good job of eating core as well of late..02:18
rafthat command throws me out02:18
klarkinindeed02:19
klarkinit restarts x02:19
Traeand by looking I don't necessarily mean flash and fluff... I'm talking clean and usuable too.02:19
LorenzodBut who cares, I prefer kde.02:19
rafyes, hehehe02:19
klarkin <Lorenzod> i never use such progs - ssh mail account and pine ;)02:19
klarkinkiss02:19
Lorenzoduuuh, pine. I prefer mutt.02:20
Traeok... bbiab, need to restart X02:20
klarkinkeep it simple stupid - to quote me dad :P02:20
Trae:)02:20
LorenzodBut don't you know evil-ution is taking over gnome?02:20
rafklarkin -> well, I've restarted X, now what I need to do?02:20
LorenzodThe evo module switcher is the new gnome-panel.02:21
Lorenzod;-)02:21
klarkinwell before when you did the  (sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg) command you had the otion to choose different resloutons02:22
klarkin?02:22
rafno02:22
klarkinum02:22
jamieWhat's the command that kde has to automatically update the menu?02:22
LorenzodDamn, there are 2.4 million mosquitoes in this room. If I don't wake up with malaria it'll be a miracle.02:22
klarkinkillall kicker02:22
klarkin;)02:22
klarkin<Lorenzod> lol02:23
rafwhen I execute sudo ... it responds with xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration02:23
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Lorenzodraf: nothing to worry about really02:24
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Lorenzodjust a little bit of dpkg poetry to keep you happy.02:24
raf:O02:24
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klarkinraf join #barf and we talk clearer if you need02:24
rafok, thanks02:24
klarkin;)02:24
Lorenzodthank goodness that wasn't #barf-bag02:25
jamieNevermind I found it02:26
klarkinbarf is the answer to all02:26
jamiekappfinder.02:26
jamiew00t02:26
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Traehmm02:26
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TraeIs there some way to make GTK apps look less crappy in KDE?02:30
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crimsunTrae: as in "consistent look n' feel"?02:31
Traecrimsun: heyaz buddy02:31
Traeyeah02:31
Traecrimsun: you are everywhere.02:32
Trae:)02:32
crimsunTrae: should be automagic if you installed kubuntu-desktop02:32
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Traecrimsun: I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:32
Trae:/02:32
crimsunTrae: did you adjust the settings for Gtk apps in System Settings?02:32
Traecrimsun: guess not, I'll dig.02:33
crimsun(not running kde at the moment, so I can't pull up the precise menu)02:33
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nrdbHi, I would like to know where I can get the libgnomeprintui source?02:40
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Traehmm02:41
Traeman, there are some little things that make KDE just sweet02:43
TraeWhere are the applets?02:43
Traelike... A wireless network monitor02:43
Traeor something.02:43
CheeseBurgerMan'sudo apt-get install kicker-applets'02:44
TraeCheeseBurgerMan: okies02:44
CheeseBurgerManand then you can right click on your panel, and select 'add applet' :)02:44
klarkinand again02:44
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Traeooooh, color picker thingy02:45
CheeseBurgerManlol02:45
Traeheh, can you tell I do graphics / web design?02:45
Trae;)02:45
Traehmm02:46
Kadranhi, how to make the dedian pakages from source for kubuntu?02:46
CheeseBurgerManYeah, I can see how that would be useful. I just use KColorChooser the rare times I need one.02:46
Traeicky poo...02:46
Traethis wireless network applet is pathetic looking :(02:46
CheeseBurgerManYeah, it is.02:47
CheeseBurgerManKadran: checkinstall02:47
crimsunKadran: follow the Packaging Guide on doc.ubuntu.com (lower right)02:47
TraeCheeseBurgerMan: and I'm being nice and holding back my true feelings02:47
TraeCheeseBurgerMan: ;)02:47
CheeseBurgerManheh, I know it. It really sucks.02:47
Kadranthanks02:47
TraeLink Quality 10%02:47
Traeheh02:47
Traethat does seem good02:47
TraeSignal Strenght: 67%02:48
TraeNoise Level 63:%02:48
Trae:/02:48
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klarkinflorecent lights ?02:48
klarkinmay sound strange but its true02:48
Traeklarkin: oh, me?02:49
Traeklarkin: I have some in my room, but they aren't turned on.02:49
Traeklarkin: I have an LCD02:50
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klarkinstrangest thing we satup some friefunk nodes and the link quality was effected by the lighting :P02:53
klarkinsetup even#02:53
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BlueLagunado most debian packages work with Kubuntu?02:53
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nagiBlueLaguna, they should02:55
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nagiBlueLaguna, but vice versa is not recommended.02:56
Traeheh02:56
Traeman02:56
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TraeIt's quite immediate the advantages of KDE over gnome02:57
Traeas far as just "things looking pretty"02:57
TraeThere are so many nifty little things, and then you turn a corner and see other kRap here and there. heh02:57
TraeDoesn't KDE have a place where you can set your desktop grid size?03:01
TraeI thought that was an option some place03:01
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Snake[ONAIR] Hey guys, if your into alternative rock/metal please tune in! Imagi-Nation! http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net/playradio.m3u (That's a direct link). Join the discussion at #imagi03:02
klarkinis there a channel for shameless advetising?03:03
klarkinif so can i join :P03:03
Traeklarkin: #shameless_ads03:03
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Snake[ONAIR] Nope, but im a regular around here, im entitled to 1 ad a week :)03:03
klarkinheheh03:04
klarkintoo shay03:04
klarkin;)03:04
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TraeDoes anyone know about the desktop icons grid?03:07
Traehmm03:07
Traemaybe that's a konq preference03:07
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Traeyeah03:10
Traethat's where it was I think.03:10
Traeheh03:10
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LorenzodHah! I'm using digiKam to organize my entire Tolkien collection.03:25
LorenzodAlbums for each artist, tags for places, characters, races etc.03:25
LorenzodJust like Rolozo Tolkien, but without the damn web browser.03:26
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rtgI'm installing from the beta2 CD right now...03:33
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thevAnyone know why my system sounds would be working, but Amarok will not play back music?03:34
rtgglitch #1 - the desktop CD didn't detect my SCSI card, or any fo the devices behind it.  Breezy did...03:35
CheeseBurgerManYou probably need to install the xine engine, thev.03:35
CheeseBurgerMan'sudo apt-get install amarok-xine'03:35
thevthat's what it was using03:35
CheeseBurgerManOh03:36
thevyeah it's installed, i just double checked03:36
CheeseBurgerManAre you actually using it though? :)03:36
rtgGlitch #2 - at step 7, the cursor shows the rotating ball, which I take to mean 'wait', but nothing happens until I click 'next' anyway...03:36
thevAmarok thinks it is03:37
thevbut it just skips through the list03:37
CheeseBurgerManHmm, not sure.03:37
klarkinamarok and dapper and engines suck at the moment - i have the same issue03:38
klarkini made everything .ogg and it works03:38
noiesmothev, you need to sudo apt-get install libmad0 libxine1c203:38
klarkindespite following the howto's for mp3 playability etc03:38
noiesmothev, http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.1003:38
Traeanyone use konversation?03:39
Traeneed to know how to get rid of the server tab03:39
klarkinright now i am03:39
noiesmothev, also get libxine-extracodecs03:39
klarkin<Trae> settings> configure konversation> behaviour> general > show swerver list dialog{uncheck it}03:41
klarkinoeps too late03:41
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Traeheh03:42
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klarkin<Trae> settings> configure konversation> behaviour> general > show swerver list dialog{uncheck it}03:42
Traeahhh ok03:43
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Trae;)03:43
Traehehe03:43
klarkinheheh03:43
Traewhich, doesn't look too bad actuaaly03:43
klarkinirssi is my fav03:43
Traethe OSX irssi looks sexy03:43
Traedon't know if you've seen that or not03:43
klarkini certainly have03:43
klarkini know some yuppies :p03:44
klarkinhehhe03:44
Traeit's sorta old school console action mixed in with aqua goodness03:44
klarkinold school console?03:44
klarkin:P03:44
thevthanks noiesmo03:44
klarkindown with gui :P03:44
Traeheh03:45
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Traegui++03:45
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klarkinok /bed calls03:45
klarkinwas a nice first day here03:45
Traeklarkin, night03:45
klarkinthanks all03:45
noiesmothev, np03:45
klarkincheers03:45
klarkinnight03:46
thevI don't remember Amarok being so difficult when I tried linux a while back... did something change?03:49
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Lorenzodthev: what seems to be the problem. I'm enjoying amaroK atm.03:50
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thevLorenzod - just trying to get it to play03:50
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LorenzodHm.. which engine are you using?03:50
thevxine, arts, doesn't matter03:51
yanishow can I check what version of qt I use?03:51
Lorenzodthev: I had a few problems for a while as well.03:52
nagiisnt there an about box??03:52
thevlorenzod - do you use it with an ipod?03:52
LorenzodIn my case it was my self-compiled TagLib which was causing the mess.03:52
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Lorenzodthev: not normally. But I have tried and can confirm that it should work.03:52
LorenzodOf course, that was a while back..03:53
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pradeeptoyanis: kde-config --version03:53
thevI had issues awhile back with my ipods library file getting corrupted03:53
nagibye.03:53
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thevit didn't see any of the songs on there, despite them still being there03:54
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coreyis the person who i was talking about knetworkmanager here? :o04:04
Traehow can I switch to 12 hr time instead of 24 hour time in the clock thingy on the panel?04:05
ParkotronTrae: Right click on it, Date & Time Format, Times & Dates04:07
Traeahhh04:08
Traeguess I need to log out and log back in04:08
Traeheh04:08
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Traeis there a way I can kill kpanel?04:09
Traeand have it restart?04:09
ParkotronTrae: That's a system wide setting, so it'll change the format everywhere.04:09
ParkotronThere's a DCOP call, but I don't recall it at the moment.04:09
Traek04:09
TraeI can log out04:09
Traeheh04:09
ParkotronI don't think you should have to restart it.04:09
Traeback in a bit.04:09
Trae:)04:09
HobbseeTrae: killall kicker04:09
Traeoh04:09
Traeheh04:10
Hobbseethen kicker04:10
TraeHobbsee, w00p!04:10
Traewho needs a flippin' restart!04:10
Trae;)04:10
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HobbseeTrae: when networkmanager is acting up, and refuses to start :P  - oh, and for kernel upgrades04:20
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Traeheh04:20
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Traeman04:30
Traeall of my GTK apps just lock up on me from time to time.04:30
Traeunder KDE that is...04:30
Traethey never did it under gnome...04:30
Traehmmm04:30
Traeback in a bit...04:31
rtg_Where do I post problems with the new Dapper beta?04:31
robotgeekrtg_: on launchpad04:31
robotgeek!bug04:31
ubotubugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs04:31
rtg_thanks!04:32
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Traehad to restart XChat in order for it to see the theme changes.04:34
Trae:/04:34
TraedeKorator  <-- what the heck is this?04:37
CheeseBurgerManIt's anotehr kiwin theming engine.04:37
CheeseBurgerMananother*04:37
Traeis it good?04:37
Traeit sounds non-native04:38
Traeheh04:38
CheeseBurgerManIt's fine, really just depends on whether you like a dekorator or native kwin theme better.04:38
CheeseBurgerManWorks fine, as much as I tried it.04:38
Traecourse, as I sit here talking about non-native in XChat04:38
CheeseBurgerManlol04:38
robotgeekheh04:38
TraeI've apt-get installed04:39
Traeit04:39
Traebut where does it put it?04:39
CheeseBurgerManSame as any other kwin themes.04:40
CheeseBurgerManIt's called "Dekorator"04:40
CheeseBurgerManIf you couldn't guess. ;)04:40
rtg_Found it.  Bug #24533.  SMP kernels hang as X is starting...04:43
UbugtuMalone bug 24533 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Fail to boot smp kernel" [Normal,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/2453304:43
robotgeekrtg_: go aheadm add your information, subscribe to the bug and confirm it :)04:44
Traehttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3563704:46
Traehah04:46
Traeinteresting idea04:46
rtg_trouble is, I just installed this system, I haven't yet configured email, so I can't complete the launchpad registration quite yet...04:46
Traethough the guys kinda on crack04:46
Trae;)04:46
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kkathmanyo Snake__ :)04:53
Snake__heyy kkathman s back!04:53
kkathmanyup :)04:54
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Traehmm04:55
Traesilly server tab won't go away in Konversation04:55
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tjb891_ if i install kubuntu, can i reload the windows mbr latter if I cahnge my mind04:57
Traetjb891_: hmmm04:57
Traedepends, you might be able to just do fdisk /mbr on a win98 boot floppy04:58
Traetjb891_: as LONG as windows is on hda104:58
tjb891_its on hd104:58
tjb891_but i have xp04:58
Traetjb891_: as always, when playing around with things, youneed to do a backup04:58
Traetjb891_: be careful with your data....04:58
tjb891_and i don't have the install cd (no recovery console acess)04:58
tjb891_SUSE somehow backs it up but I like Kubuntu better than SUSE04:59
Traetjb891_: you really should be careful doing that if Windows is critical for you and like your work or business.04:59
Traetjb891_: use the Live cd to test kubuntu or ubuntu or any other distro out.04:59
Traetjb891_: but, you SHOULD be able to do what you want.04:59
Traetjb891_: ;)04:59
Traetjb891_: sorry, I'm not much help right now. :(05:00
tjb891_i do,  do you know were i could get a boot disk of freedos, it had a fdsik/mbr command05:00
Traehmmm05:00
tjb891_i couldn't find one on sourceforge05:00
Traetjb891_: google for something like hiram hirem's boot disk05:00
tjb891_ok05:00
Traetjb891_: I think it has freedos and some other nifty tools on there05:00
Traeit's an iso youcan burn05:00
tjb891_awsome05:01
Traenod05:01
TraeI don't use windows, but a friend of mine told me about it.05:01
TraeSeemed handy to know05:01
Traeif I ever did have to use it ;)05:01
tjb891_i use it for games only05:01
Traetjb891_: it's ok man, everything to a purpose.05:01
TraeI personally think all computers suck.05:01
Traeheh05:01
TraeLInux just sucks less for me.05:02
Traedo what you gotta do as long as it allows you to do what you want.05:02
TraeIf windows works for you, then rock on.05:02
TraeIf OS X is your thing, then cool.05:02
TraeAnd, if Linux floats your boat.  :)05:02
Traethen welcome aboard matey05:02
Traeheh05:02
tjb891_they have to get that installation easier befroe VISTA and its DRM comes out , and windows in incapible of working05:02
Traetjb891_: haven't used Vista or any of its beta's05:03
tjb891_i know its DRM is ridiculous05:03
Traeheh05:03
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EricLCan someone point me to a howto on installing KUbuntu (not Debian) on a Xen vm?05:34
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EricLOk, then can someone give me a KUbuntu source (that would go in /etc/sources.lst) of the latest version of KUbuntu so I can try to debootstrap an install?05:42
EricL /etc/apt/sources.lst I meant.05:43
EricLOh well, I guess I'll be install breezy instead of Dapper.05:49
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rtg_trae_> you can turn off the server tab in settings>configure Konversation> Behavior>general05:57
Traertg_: :?05:57
Traeerrr05:57
Trae:/05:57
Traedoesn't seem to work05:57
TraeI'm in #konversation05:57
Traeand they say that feature I want is only in svn05:57
Trae:)05:57
Traeactualy05:57
Traeit's not in svn, that's another feature05:58
Traethey say it's the most asked for feature, ever, and it's not in.05:58
_rooti need help to install firefox 1.5.0.305:58
rtg_I haven't tried it, I just remember an answer that was given here an hour or two ago...05:59
Hobbseewhich feature is this?05:59
Hobbsee!tell _root about firefox1.505:59
TraeHobbsee: turn off Server tab in konversation05:59
Hobbseeooh, yes please!05:59
Traeone of the developers there in #konversation told me it's the most requested feature.06:00
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Traeheh06:00
Traehe's trying it06:00
Hobbseeoh darn, release is supposed to be in a month...06:00
Traehe's going to realize it was in vain06:00
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Hobbseewas wondering if we could just patch that bit in or something :P06:00
TraeHobbsee: nod06:00
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TraeHobbsee: #konversation06:00
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rtg_trae: You're right - that config option turns off the initial server dialog box, not the server tab.06:02
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ruisuhello06:04
ruisuchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!06:04
ruisuFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.06:04
ruisuand i have qt3 installed06:04
ruisu>.>?06:04
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pradeeptoruisu: which version of Qt is installed?06:06
ruisuum06:06
ruisu306:06
pradeeptoruisu: do you have the qt-development headers installed?06:07
ruisuand the threads06:07
pradeeptoor just the libs?06:07
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Jejemhi guys06:08
ruisuqt3-dev-tools06:08
ruisuqt3-apps-dev06:08
Traertg_: ;)06:08
ruisuhi06:09
ruisulibs:qt-compat-headers06:09
ruisulibqt3-headers06:09
pradeeptolibqt3-headers06:09
ruisulibqt-mt(+devs)06:09
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pradeeptoruisu:  yes is libqt3-headers installed on your box?06:09
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pradeeptoJejem: hi06:10
ruisuyes06:10
Jejemis it possible to "save user settings" with kubuntu livecd ? :D06:10
ruisureinstall?06:10
ruisunop, jeje06:10
Jejemmm06:10
Jejemm'okay06:11
pradeeptoruisu: libqt3-mt-dev06:11
ruisumhm06:11
ruisuthat too06:11
pradeeptodo you have that?06:11
ruisuyes06:11
ruisulibqt-mt-dev06:12
ruisulibqt3*06:12
pradeeptowhat does the config.log say?06:12
ruisucc1plus: warning: command line option "-Wbad-function-cast" is valid for C/ObjC but not for C++06:13
ruisucc1plus: warning: command line option "-Wmissing-prototypes" is valid for Ada/C/ObjC but not for C++06:13
ruisuconftest.C:2:21: error: qglobal.h: No such file or directory06:13
ruisuconftest.C:3:26: error: qapplication.h: No such file or directory06:13
ruisuconftest.C:4:20: error: qevent.h: No such file or directory06:13
ruisuconftest.C:5:21: error: qstring.h: No such file or directory06:13
ruisuconftest.C:6:20: error: qstyle.h: No such file or directory06:13
ruisuconftest.C:7:23: error: qiconview.h: No such file or directory06:13
ruisuconftest.C:8:8: warning: "QT_VERSION" is not defined06:13
Jejemlol06:13
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ruisumhm06:14
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Jejemso i can't save my configs... mmm06:14
Jejem*poor guy*06:14
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ruisuhehe06:15
ruisuso06:15
ruisuElvis is alive is he code for wrong?06:15
ruisuor dead?06:15
pradeeptoruisu: next time use pastebin06:16
pradeepto;)06:17
ruisu?06:17
ruisupastebin??06:17
ruisuwhats that?06:17
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pradeepto!pastebin06:17
ubotusomebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126906:17
ruisuooooooooook06:17
ruisu:O06:17
ruisuok06:18
ruisuthx06:18
ruisuso] 06:18
ruisuwhats my problem doctor?06:19
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Hobbseehi kkathman!06:22
kkathmanhowdy there Hobbsee :)06:22
Hobbsee:)06:22
kkathmanwassup wit my favorite aussie gal?06:22
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ruisuok, im going to uninstall qt and devs and reinstalling them06:26
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ruisuhola lurkan06:27
ruisu:P06:28
LurkanHola, Hi06:28
ruisuwhere are you from?06:28
LurkanMxico06:29
ruisugosh, its removing al kde apps :O06:29
Lurkanyou06:29
ruisume too06:29
Lurkanjajaj06:29
ruisuim from Baja06:29
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LurkanDF me06:29
ruisu:o06:29
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GullyFoyleyikes my sound doesnt work any more06:31
GullyFoylehow do i restart it?06:31
ruisusystem sound>?06:31
ruisuof multimedia plaer sonud?>06:31
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ruisuor*06:31
LeeJunFanGullyFoyle: go into sound settings and uncheck enable sound system, recheck it and hit apply.06:32
GullyFoylei'm looking for cmd line06:32
LeeJunFanGullyFoyle: artsd06:32
LeeJunFanGullyFoyle: there's more cmdline options but that should be enough to just run artsd06:32
ruisuomg, my sistem got fck up!06:33
ruisuhow do i damn06:33
pradeeptoruisu: :(06:33
ruisui think i removed the packager....06:33
ruisuthis is fatal06:33
pradeeptoruisu: w0ah!!!06:33
LeeJunFanruisu: dpkg ?06:34
ruisumeh, im going to reinstall06:34
ruisumhm06:34
pradeeptoruisu: good time to take backup, I say06:34
ruisuhehehe06:34
ruisu*what backup* :P06:34
ruisui have no longer konsole :(06:34
ruisuwhat is the name of the other console?06:35
LeeJunFanruisu: now how the heck did you manage that?06:35
ruisuxrfv?06:35
LeeJunFanrxvt06:35
ruisui uninstalled qt06:35
ruisuOMG06:35
ruisui have no rxvt!!06:35
LeeJunFanruisu: doh. you need to get to shell and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:35
ruisuhmm06:36
GullyFoylei keep getting error device or resource busy, i can't get no sound06:36
pradeeptoruisu: Ctrl + Alt + F106:36
LeeJunFanGullyFoyle: something is using /dev/dsp, perhaps you have an artsd running already that is just defunct, try killall -9 artsd06:37
LeeJunFanthen try starting artsd again.06:37
pradeeptoruisu: ?06:37
pradeeptoI hope he knows Ctrl + Alt + F7 :006:37
LeeJunFanlol06:38
GullyFoylehrm still no sound06:38
LeeJunFanconfidence is low considering he removed qt.06:38
pradeeptoyup06:38
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pradeeptolaters folks06:39
pradeeptoLeeJunFan: if he comes back, give him my regards06:40
LeeJunFanpradeepto: right :) gnight06:40
pradeeptoLeeJunFan: its morning out here :)06:41
pradeeptothanks though :)06:41
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LeeJunFanoops06:42
pradeeptoLeeJunFan: I tell ya he rebooted after C+A + F106:43
Traeanyone know how to turn off the arrows that show up on the Kmenu on the panel?06:43
HobbseeTrae: right click, configure panel06:44
Hobbseethink it's on one of the advanced options...06:44
Traehmmm06:44
Hobbseefound it?06:45
Traenaw06:45
Hobbseeit's around there somewhere06:45
Traenot sure it's possible06:45
Traewell06:45
Hobbseeoh it is...06:45
TraeI've dug through those... :/06:45
Hobbseeno, wait...06:45
Traeheh06:45
Traejust sorta annoying seeing the triangle06:45
Hobbseeon the top left corner of the kmenu?06:46
TraeI mean, I know there is a menu there06:46
Hobbseein the kicker?06:46
Traenod06:46
Hobbseenot sure if htat goes away if you replace it with a different image06:46
Traenot that big of a deal...06:46
Traenot yet.06:46
Trae;)06:46
TraeHobbsee: in case I miss you, thanks for all your help too06:48
TraeI'll try and hang here... I'm a #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 regular06:48
HobbseeTrae: not a problem.  i'm sure i'll be around :P06:48
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Traebut since I have giant tabs now...06:48
Traeheh06:48
TraeI'll have to pick and choose where I am06:48
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Traewow06:48
Traeother neat channels I'd love to be a part of06:49
Trae:P~06:49
Trae;)06:49
Hobbseeoh yes, and #kubuntu-offtopic06:49
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argentinianhi people06:58
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ruisuwoot07:00
ruisuthank you all07:00
ruisu:)07:00
ruisuim reinstalling every package again :P07:00
ruisuhey, do you know kexy is broken in brezy?07:00
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argentinianI installed Dapper in amd64, but it isnt workin fine, the saa7134 craches the system, ATI seems to make some lines in blender3d, can anyone help me?07:12
argentinianthere are certain bugs btu nothing to worry about (yet)07:14
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MagicFab!ops07:20
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!07:20
HobbseeMagicFab: what?07:20
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MagicFabHobbsee: cursing, CoC abuse un #xubuntu07:20
MagicFabsorry to bother you07:20
MagicFab2 warnings already , user is odat07:21
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MagicFabHobbsee: don' t know much what to do with +o07:21
MagicFabcan u come ?07:21
HobbseeMagicFab: /msg chanserv access #xubuntu list07:21
Hobbseei'm there - but i have no ops there07:21
Hobbseeping crim*sun about it....07:22
crimsunsec07:22
MagicFabtx07:22
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MagicFab(01:16:48) odat: how the hell do you do vnc in this friggin thing07:24
MagicFab(01:00:05) odat: i suggest you get a friggin book and start reading before you give advice07:25
MagicFabit' s calmed down now - ah well. sorry for the annoyance07:25
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_jeromeq. i passed a ubuntu 5.10 into a kubuntu by apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but now my menus got both version of each stuff, gnome and kde, how can i remove the gnome stuff?07:26
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jerome_hmm ok a saturday morning may not be rush hour on ubuntu help :)07:30
cfraz89did you want to remove gnome?07:31
cfraz89or just the menu entries?07:31
jerome_well the menu entries are the trouble for now07:31
jerome_but if i can i would remove gnome07:32
cfraz89oh ok07:32
cfraz89well to remove the menu shortcuts07:32
cfraz89right click on the menu07:32
jerome_in fact i would like to have a like a fresh kubuntu install07:32
cfraz89click on menu editor07:32
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cfraz89it might hel07:32
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jerome_oik07:32
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jerome_ah ok you suggest i remove them all one by one ?07:33
cfraz89you could07:33
jerome_that a solution that would work07:33
cfraz89it might be easier to remove gnome07:33
cfraz89maybe apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop07:33
jerome_if i knew which package is in kubuntu normally :)07:33
jerome_i already did this one before install kubuntu-desktop07:34
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jerome_i think i willl simply burn kubuntu cd and reinstall :)07:34
cfraz89ok07:34
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zorgluuuq. is there a guiutility to mount disk ?07:48
cfraz89zorgluuu: kde handles disk mounting itself usually07:50
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poningruzorgluuu: why do you need a guiutility?07:51
poningruI dont understand07:51
=== poningru would love to see how kde did it
cfraz89well it has media:?07:52
cfraz89i mean media:?/07:52
cfraz89grr07:52
cfraz89media:/07:52
cfraz89yeah07:52
cfraz89you can right click to mount and umount07:52
zorgluuucfraz89, it doesnt show the unmounted disk07:54
cfraz89it should07:54
cfraz89whta disk is it?07:54
zorgluuuin fact it is more partition07:54
cfraz89ok07:54
cfraz89is it in your /etc/fstab?07:54
zorgluuuin short i got another distribution in other partition and would like to mount them07:54
zorgluuulet me check07:55
cfraz89ok07:55
zorgluuunope, it isnt in fstab07:55
cfraz89i think that might be why07:55
zorgluuufstab shows only the ubuntu partition07:55
zorgluuus07:55
cfraz89do you know the syntax to add it?07:56
zorgluuuyep, if i knew the partition name of my other distribution :)07:56
zorgluuubut ok i will play with fdisk07:56
cfraz89lol check the kde partition tool07:56
zorgluuuwhat is the name of this tool ?07:57
cfraz89do you know about the disks and filesystems tool in systemsettings?07:57
poningruzorgluuu: dude just go mount -t fstype /dev/partitionname /where/you/want/to/mount/it07:57
cfraz89its on the bottom row07:57
zorgluuutrying kde partition tool07:58
zorgluuuponingru, yep but i try to learn ubuntu :)07:58
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poningruah gotcha07:59
poningruyou using kubuntu?07:59
jeff_hey guys07:59
poningruyo07:59
cfraz89damn i just put my shirt on backwards07:59
jeff_anybody know how to get xmame on dapper?08:00
jeff_lol08:00
zorgluuuponingru, yep, well a ubuntu 5.10 updated with kubuntu-desktop08:00
poningruah gotcha08:00
poningrudoh thats why08:00
poningrusorry I thought I was in ##linux08:00
jeff_lol08:00
cfraz89jeff: apt-get install xmame-gl08:01
cfraz89i think08:01
cfraz89or sdl08:01
cfraz89theres also kxmame08:01
cfraz89thats just looking through adept08:01
jeff_are you using dapper?08:01
cfraz89yep08:01
jeff_awesome08:01
jeff_ill check08:01
cfraz89its in multiverse08:01
jeff_hmm08:03
jeff_im pretty sure i have multiverse enabled, but its not coming up08:03
cfraz89?08:03
cfraz89hmmm08:04
jeff_ill check that i do08:04
cfraz89yep08:04
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jeff_cfraz89: could you pastebin your sources.list so i can compare the two?08:05
coreyanyone know how to get a 'shutdown/restart' button on system menu?08:05
cfraz89ok08:05
jeff_thanks08:06
cfraz89http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70131208:07
cfraz89gtg08:07
cfraz89hope it works out08:07
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zorgluuuq. is there a tool to edit the grub config ?08:20
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zorgluuuok i used old school vi  :)08:23
coreynoone knows how to get a shutdown/restart button on the system menu? :o08:25
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Hobbseecorey: nope, there's already one on the kmenu though08:34
Hobbseecorey: unless you can put shortcuts into system:/ somehow, thru konq08:35
coreywhere?08:35
Hobbseein konq, type "system:/" and hit enter08:36
coreyi meant in kmenu08:38
coreyunder system?08:38
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zorgluuuq. is there a way to tell kde to save the position of my windows when i close them ? e.g. konqueror always open unmaximize, and i would like it to08:48
LynoureWhen your session saves, that happens automatically, other than that I don't know08:51
zorgluuuok and when my session is supposed to be saved ? when i log off ?08:52
Lynoureyes, I think by default08:54
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Lynourehmm, in settings -> desktop there is Window specific settings which might be useful to you08:56
zorgluuuok thanks08:56
zorgluuuanother question what is the default test editor for kde ? like gedit for gnome08:56
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zorgluuui just switched to new computer, new distribution and new desktop system08:57
LynoureI think kate is default, or at least is in dapper, I haven't used breezy...08:57
Lynoure:) me too08:57
zorgluuuso i have a lot of lame question :)08:57
LynoureFrom desktop debian unstable with gnome to laptop kubuntu kde :)08:57
zorgluuuhehe08:58
zorgluuumy new laptop got a different keyboard08:58
zorgluuuthis is real painfull :)08:58
Lynoureso different you cannot set it to be the same?08:58
zorgluuuyep the keys size are different08:59
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zorgluuuespecially the left shift which cause me a lot of trouble08:59
zorgluuuit is a cheap acer08:59
zorgluuubut i do love the ubuntu repository and their real fat pipe09:00
zorgluuuit make the system update so fast :)09:00
LynoureThis is a lovely HP :)09:00
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zorgluuu:)09:01
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Hobbseezorgluuu: kate is the default in breezy as well09:03
_patrickThanks for eveyone's help last night with Kubuntu. The Adept package manager worked well. Still have some install problems. As some debian files won't install, but I'm trying to get them to work in terminal.09:03
LynoureWhich debian files and what errors do you get about them?09:04
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zorgluuuHobbsee, ok thanks09:06
_patrickOne program is a bible program called esword, and the other 3dboggle.09:07
_patrickPlus, I'm trying to find the spellchecker for abiword.09:07
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_patrickExact file names are sword-1.5.8 and kboggle-0.4.1. Can't get either to install.09:10
LynoureWhat's the error message you get?09:10
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_patrickOn the kboggle it just doesn't take the make install protocal asked for. The other refuses my administrator password.09:12
_patrickGo figure?09:12
Lynoureoh, they are not .debs09:13
_patrickOtherwise Kubuntu has been great, and except for windows emulator packages I need to install.09:13
_patrickOK, I thought I downloaded debs. What should be my approach with them.09:14
zorglu1ah yep wanted to try the 'install winxp thru qemu' stuff :)09:14
_patrickTerminal was the only other way I thought I could download them.09:14
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fatejudger!sources.list09:14
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource09:14
vinboyhi09:14
Lynoure_patrick: well, .deb doesn't require you to do make isntall09:15
zorglu1hmm the 5.10 to 6.06 updates removed some entry from brug/menu.lst :(09:15
Lynoures/isntall/install09:15
vinboyhow do I edit my Konqueror -> right-click -> open-with menu?09:15
Lynoure_patrick: instead you can do sudo dpkg --install foobar09:15
_patrickOk, how should I use that with these files?09:16
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Lynoure_patrick: just like I said into other comment, if yout are .deb files you do sudo dpkg --install thefileyouhave09:17
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_patrickThanks I'll try it. Sure do appreciate.09:18
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zorgluuuq. i updated my 5.10 to a 6.06 beta by following the instructions on the web site, everything went well, i rebooted, and i still run kde3.4.3 ? is it normal ?09:41
Hobbseezorgluuu: er....nope.09:42
zorgluuuok any suggestion i could look at to fix the issue09:42
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zorgluuuredoing the update/upgrade09:44
zorgluuuapparently stuff were missed09:44
zorgluuuit is so weird when you start using a new stuff like that09:45
Hobbseezorgluuu: yeah, do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"09:45
zorgluuua lot of thing happen without any idea why09:45
zorgluuuHobbsee, i did another gksudo "update-manager -d"09:45
zorgluuuand it is currently downloading09:45
Hobbseeah okay, cool09:45
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zorgluuuhmm i think i have an idea of what happened09:46
zorgluuumy first gksudo "update-manager -d" did only the update from the cd install to all the fresh packages for 5.109:47
zorgluuuand the second is doing the dist-upgrade09:47
zorgluuuis that possible ?09:47
Mars^Hi all. I have a question. I am going to learn c++ and i need some kind of editor, with syntax or smthng. Can you give me a name of good one?09:47
vinboyhow do I edit my Konqueror -> right-click -> open-with menu?09:47
zorgluuumark---, usually kde people uses kdevelop09:48
zorgluuumark---, personnally i use eclipse09:48
zorgluuuit is more a matter of personal tastes09:49
zorgluuunote that those IDE are rather complex for a beginer09:49
zorgluuuthinking about it you may try kate09:49
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zorgluuuvinboy, my wild guess is that it is related to mime-type09:50
zorgluuubut i dont know how to change them yet09:50
zorgluuuvinboy, konqueror - setting menu - config konqueror - file associations may help you09:51
vinboythanks zorgluuu09:52
DHGEhi - anyone printing on the latest dapper with an officejet (mine does NOTHING), error messages only after I change permissions on   /var/log/cups/error.log09:52
DHGEerror message: cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!09:52
Mars^I will check out both.09:53
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zorgluuumouaoau downloading the package is fast stage in the install :) then installing the rpm is like 4 times longer :)10:01
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zorgluuurpm couch i meant deb :)10:01
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necronif i want to provice firefox with availability to view flash for every user, how should i do it? swf-player from adept? download it from macromedia? ...10:09
necronand i would dislike to install it for every user ... would prefer a global solution10:09
zorgluuui dunno if it is the best solution compares to stuff from adept10:10
zorgluuubut the download from macromedia allow you to do a 'system install'10:10
necronzorgluuu: sounds good to me :) but i have to update manually then, right?10:11
zorgluuuyep10:12
necronalright ... i prefer systeminstall over automated update ,-910:12
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zorgluuu:)10:16
necronworks nice, thanks :)10:17
necronzorgluuu: should i take java from sun or from adept?10:18
necron:)10:18
zorgluuuthis i dunno, i am on ubuntu for 3h now :)10:19
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necronzorgluuu: oh, i see :)10:19
necroni am new to it too. just got my wireless internet working (the wireless lan doenst work so far)10:19
zorgluuutips: not a good idea to use your system while updating it :)10:22
zorgluuu'cant start kio_http' in konqueror :)10:23
necron*G*10:24
ferminecron: Kubuntu is not suitable for a unstable-networking user10:25
zorglu1fermi: what is the issue ?10:25
ferminecron: coz you'd better update and upgrade your system every single hour10:25
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fermizorglu1: hmmm, just telling what I know about Kubuntu10:26
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zorglu1ah ok, you mean that kubuntu move so fast that very frequent update are required ?10:27
xstMy kubuntu (dapper, beta2) has begun to power down my laptop harddisk if it has been unused for no more than a couple of seconds. All this spin up/down can't be healthy for the disk. How can I adjust this?10:27
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fermizorglu1: hmm, partly right10:29
fermizorglu1: I am actually saying that there's no stable release for Linux OS...10:29
RizadoI've just upgradet to kubuntu dapper but all my desktops icons too small, How can I change them to the same size as in kubuntu breezy?10:30
fermizorglu1: you need to update frequently to ensure your system is on the best performance10:30
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zorglu1fermi: ok i got it10:30
necronfermi: i just use kubuntu as a workstation ... server is debian sarge ...10:31
necronfermi: but kubuntu dapper has wg111v2 native support, what i need for my workstations ...10:31
fermizorglu1: in the mean time, you may encounter any kind of problems or system crash, but hey, it's going to be recovered, soon, by upgrading the systme10:31
fermisystem*10:31
necronfermi: thats why you get new packages with kubuntu10:32
ferminecron: good combination10:32
necronif you need a stable system you should stay with debian10:32
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ferminecron: true, debian is better for professionals...10:33
necrondebian is a great linux. it just is a little outdatet all the time, but hey... who needs kde 3.5 on a server?10:33
alvitoalguem me pde ajudar sff10:33
ferminecron: but for those who are not so familiar with bash stuff, Ubuntu provides the solution10:33
ferminecron: I mean, Ubuntu is better when considering the Desktop10:34
necronfermi: my problem is, that i dont like gnome :)10:35
necronfermi: and i like bash ... so i like kubuntu so far :)10:35
ferminecron: LOL10:35
necron;-)10:35
ferminecron: according to what I know, gnome is ugly, yet is more stable than KDE...10:36
ferminecron: as a Chinese user, my Kubuntu is always out of use because of the Chinese input methods...10:37
necronfermi: yes, that may be. but as i have a girlfriend, that is using this computer too, i prefer kde due to much more useability ...10:37
necronfermi: um. i can imagine the mess ...10:37
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necronfermi: i sometimes have to do with chinese guys at work and the chinese input-system troubles many softwaredevelopers :)10:38
ferminecron: Girls would definitely prefer KDE...10:38
fermicoz KDE's interface is so cool10:38
necron;-)10:38
necronyou got it :) girls are much more visually ...10:38
fermiLOL10:39
necronits true :)10:39
necronif i got a black screen with white font10:39
necronand i can type what i want, i am happy with it10:39
necrongirls normally dont like that way ...10:39
necronthey prefer icons10:39
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ferminecron: in that case, give them suggestions, let them use Mac OS X...10:41
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ferminecron: Mac should be better, yah?10:41
zorglu1i quitted text tty in 2001 and never came back. now i even code with the mouse :)10:41
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zorglu1almost mandatory for eclipse10:41
fermizorglu1: LOL10:41
rafhello! could someone help me with Kubuntu?10:42
fermiraf, before you seek any help from the channel here, do read the help doc first10:42
rafwhere can I find the help doc?10:43
fermihttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/FaqOnIrc10:43
fermiright on the top of this channel...10:43
rafok, I'm going to read it, thanks10:43
fermiwelcome10:43
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rafwell,  I have found 3 pages about VPN, but I have  some questions,Can I ask?10:54
necronsurely can you ask :)10:55
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necronthe question is, does someone know, what you want to know ...10:55
rafI want to connect to a VPN10:56
necronok10:56
rafso I need a VPN Client10:56
necroni use vpnc10:56
necronapt-get install vpnc10:56
necronor use adept if you like ... the package is named "vpnc"10:56
rafisn't vpnc only for Cisco VPN's?10:57
necronraf: oh. sorry :) i use cisco ...10:57
necronraf: but you could try kvpnc10:58
rafI mean, can I use vpnc to connect to my VPN I've created with Clark Connect?10:58
rafoh, ok10:58
necronraf: kvpnc supports different systems as far as i know10:58
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rafnecron: thnks, I'll try it10:59
rafwhat about openvnc?10:59
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necronkvpnc is only the gui if i remember correctly10:59
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rafoh, ok11:01
rafwell, thanks again11:01
rafsee you11:01
necronsee you :)11:01
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nox-HandHey11:17
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nightwatchhi there, i'm compiling a package using apt-get --build source pack but when it is up to compile apt recognizes my architecture as i386 but my pc is p4 and my kernel is i686, where I fix it?11:44
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muhi !11:45
nightwatchhi11:45
muanyone knows how to install the fglrx drivers on dapper ?11:46
Hobbseenightwatch: they dont build separate i386 and i686 packages11:46
apokryphosnightwatch: your architecture is still 32-bit. i686 packs only get built in particular situations, like for kernels.11:47
nightwatchI got this message: dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture i38611:47
nightwatchI know,  I'd like it optimized11:47
apokryphosthat's right11:47
apokryphosit doesn't... really work like that11:48
apokryphoshttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=breezy&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=linux-686&searchon=names11:48
apokryphossee that for example11:48
nightwatchok11:48
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apokryphosif you want it optimized you'll have to somehow do it yourself. Packages will still get built at i38611:48
pulsarHallo!11:49
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nightwatchthanks apokryphos , it helps a lot... I gonna build my kernel later... by now I will accept i386 arch11:50
pulsar_I get a kernel panic on my system when using fglrx... What can I do to investigate the problem?11:50
mupulsar_: how did you build the kernel modul ?11:51
mupulsar_: i get an error in the makefile ...11:51
pulsar_mu: Precompiled from dapper repositories.11:52
pulsar_(since it's the latest available version)11:52
mupulsar_: the fglrx-kernel-source 8.24.811:54
mupulsar_: ?11:54
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nightwatchapokryphos: in that case [ kernel compiling]  should I download from kernel.org and then chkinstall.. or run make install or use apt-build? what do you recommend?11:54
apokryphosnightwatch: you want a processor-specific kernel?11:55
pulsar_mu: Well, linux-restricted-modules11:55
nightwatchyes. my processor11:55
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apokryphosnightwatch: just install linux-68611:56
nightwatchI did, but as you said it is actually i386 arch11:56
nightwatchthat's my uname -r: 2.6.12-9-68611:57
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nightwatchapokryphos: ?12:02
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apokryphosnightwatch: heh, no, it's not actually i386 arch :)12:03
apokryphosthe .deb is just built to say that12:03
apokryphosthey've of course done the relevant optimisations for pentium processors12:03
nightwatcho.O why someone did some like that? why rename the arch?12:04
apokryphosbecause the only standard build architectures are i386, ppc, and amd6412:05
apokryphosyou get rare optimisations, like in the kernel, but it's not that popular.12:05
nightwatchthen I think I understood wrong.... actually I read about optimizatiions after hear about gentoo.. I'd like to make my kubuntu a little bit faster... or optimized to my pc12:07
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apokryphosthere's really not that much differnece in perfomance to if you had built it all specifically for 686, really12:08
nightwatchbut maybe is not necessary.. it istno slow.. I did just for testing12:08
nightwatchok, I will not try it anymore.. takes a long time and I get a lot errors12:09
apokryphostry what anymore?12:09
nightwatchcompile programs just for optimization12:10
apokryphosyeah12:10
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ninHerhi all12:29
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Steven_MHi all12:43
nightwatchhi12:43
Steven_Mhow do I downgrade from kde 3.5.2 to kde 3.5.1?12:43
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nightwatchdunno12:45
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inc|freakyhi all. ;D does any1 use yakuake? my problem: i set the background to be transparent, on the first konsole in yakuake it works. but when i open an additional one, the background is just black there even in the settings the background is set to transparent - can anyone help me with that?=12:47
inc|freakywhat is better, openoffice or koffice?12:47
Hobbseeinc|freaky: openoffice reads .doc files better...12:48
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inc|freaky^^ k12:49
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inc|freakyare there any online linux magazines?12:56
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inc|freakyhow can i change my usericon if it has been disabled by the system administrator ... and i am the system administrator? ;D12:59
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inc|freakykde12:59
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inc|freaky[4295984.011000]  ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting. hmm01:00
jacktorranceincfreaky sucks01:01
zorglu2inc|freaky: hmm i got the same here, and apparently the boot happen without issue01:03
zorglu2i dont use it tho01:03
jacktorranceincfreaky sucks01:03
inc|freakyk01:03
zorglu22.6.15-21-386 my kernel01:03
inc|freaky//exec uname -r01:03
jacktorrancekernel sucks01:03
inc|freakyhmm01:03
inc|freakynm ;)01:04
jacktorranceincfreaky sucks01:04
inc|freakycan someone tell me how i can change my usericon?01:04
jacktorranceincfreaky sucks01:04
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Hobbseejacktorrance: why?01:04
inc|freakywhen i try to change it it says it has been disabled by the system administrator, but i never did that and i dont know how to allow it01:04
jacktorrancehobbsee sucks01:04
zorglu2is jacktorrance a bot ?01:04
inc|freakyi have him on ignore ;)01:04
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Hobbseegone now :)01:05
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zorglu2thx :)01:05
inc|freakyhehe, thx ;D01:05
Hobbseeat least it wasnt a spam bot...i hate them!01:05
Hobbseeso hard to mute them quickly, without setting the channel +R01:05
inc|freakyhehe01:06
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Hobbseeinc|freaky: i dont know the answers to any of hte above questions, sorry...01:08
inc|freakyhehe, np ;D ill try finding out myself01:09
inc|freaky2.6.15-21-386 my kernel btwq01:09
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inc|freakyah we have the same ;D01:10
Hobbseehmm?01:10
Hobbseei use the 686 kernel...01:10
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inc|freakyyea i should maybe use that1 too ...01:10
Hobbseeinc|freaky: you using konv?01:10
Hobbseedo a /sysinfo01:10
inc|freakywhat is konv?01:10
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Hobbseekonv = konversation01:11
inc|freakyim using kvirc01:11
Hobbseeah okay01:11
inc|freakycvs version01:11
Hobbseeinc|freaky: what type of processor do you have?01:11
inc|freakyIntel M Centrino 2,0ghz01:11
Hobbseeyeah, i think you can use the 686 kernel then...01:11
inc|freakyehm, pentium i think01:11
inc|freakyi guess that would even be better01:12
inc|freakythe ubuntu kernels are the "linux" ones right?01:12
Hobbseeyes01:12
Hobbseeinstall linux-image-68601:13
inc|freakyk, its downloading ;D01:13
Hobbseeand the restricted modules if you need them01:13
inc|freakyi will have to recompile nvidia drivers then01:13
Hobbseehmm...there's a new kernel, yet the metapackage hasnt been updated...i wonder why01:13
Hobbseegot no idea, likely01:13
inc|freakyyea ive seen that too01:13
inc|freakyill just wait01:13
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inc|freakyill reboot now, brb01:16
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Infectoi`v got problem witch suspend to ram, when i try to do it from kde Klaptop, clicking right on the ikon my suspend starting when i exit from kde01:27
Infectopleas tel me why ?01:27
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inc|freakyback with new kernel ;D01:33
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Hobbseeinc|freaky: yay01:37
Hobbseerestricted modules arent there yet though.01:37
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inc|freakyHobbsee: yea i dont need them anyway ;D i even would have had to uninstall them for installing the nvidia drivers ;D01:39
inc|freakyati drivers i mena01:39
inc|freaky*mean01:39
Hobbseeoh okay....01:39
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GroquickBonjour tout le monde01:46
GroquickEst ce que quelqu'un fait tourner cdga en 64 bits ?01:46
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Hobbsee!fr01:47
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:47
Groquicksorry01:48
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PupenoCan kword do batch conversion from kwd to odt ?01:48
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martin_linuxtagee mark shuttleworth now live at linuxtag http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/de/home/video/playlists.html01:48
Hobbseemartin_linuxtag: how's the kubuntu table look?01:49
Hobbseetell raphink and the others that hobbsee says hi :P01:50
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zorglu2that's a nice advertisement :)01:51
LeeJunFanzorglu2: yeah, nice shirt.01:53
zorglu2yep endorsement from ubuntu is good for kde01:54
martin_linuxtagHobbsee, the kubuntu booth looks nice. they do a quite good show.01:56
Hobbsee:)01:56
martin_linuxtagmark wears a kubuntu shirt. you should take a look :-)01:56
Blissexmartin_linuxtag: apparently Shuttleworth himself uses Kubuntu...01:57
Blissexnot just the t-shirt.01:57
zorglu2q. is there a way to get the html page of konqueror to be full screen ?01:59
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LeeJunFanI respect a guy who's as rich as him and still doesn't dress as well as I do, which isn't very well :p02:00
LeeJunFanhehe02:00
Hobbseehehe02:01
zorglu2the solution was double click on the page :)02:01
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PupenoI tried koconverter and I've got: "koffice (filter manager): ERROR: Couldn't create a valid filter chain!", but I was able to convert it using kword (from kwd to odt); any ideas ?02:04
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LeeJunFanJune 1st will be a good day, dapper goes final and Armed Assault from Bohemia Interactive is suppose to be released too :)02:04
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HobbseeLeeJunFan: hehe nice!02:08
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xbourvelhello, i have a working ksensors ( able to see my MB sensors ) and a working hddtemp ( logs shows the right HD temp ) but i cannot understand how to see hddtemp output through ksensors ... any hint ?02:20
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Seantaterxbourvel: ksensors uses lmsensors -- not hddtemp -- I think you will have to deal with lmsensors -- it won;t use anything else.02:45
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xbourvelseantater: thnaks ! I'm gonna try this way. I found stuff related to hddtemp in ksensors source code, but i'm not in the mood of spending much time in ...02:51
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antxhello? anybody home?02:53
PupenoI tried koconverter and I've got: "koffice (filter manager): ERROR: Couldn't create a valid filter chain!", but I was able to convert it using kword (from kwd to odt); any ideas ?02:54
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antxwell, I`ll ask anyway... I`m very new to linux and just installed kubuntu breezy. I wonder if this is the right place to ask questions? is it?02:57
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eqisowthis or the forums02:57
eqisowbut anywho, fire away02:57
antxokay, then:02:57
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antxI want to install firefox. I thought adept is the right thing for it or not?02:58
Hobbseeantx: you can install firefox thru adept, yes02:58
eqisowwell yes, although I personally don't like adept02:58
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eqisowSynaptic seems much cleaner to me, you can get it through adept as well ;)02:59
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antxokay, I searched for it there and hit install... nothing happend. only the install button changed to "keep"02:59
antxthe help file for adept was not installed with kubuntu so what now?03:00
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eqisowwell, if you want a quick solution, just open up a command line a do: apt-get install firefox03:01
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antxokay, this might work. but there must be an easy way with adept too. I sure need more than just firefox03:02
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antxis there somewhere another button I have to hit?03:02
eqisowaye, I'm sure there is, but I've just never really used adept. It's not even on my system atm03:02
antxhehe. okay.03:02
antxIll see if i can find the helpfile somewhere...03:03
eqisowunless somebody else ehre can lend a hand, I'd say just apt-get install synaptic and use that03:03
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PeregrineSkywhere can i get the md5sum for kubuntu?03:05
eqisowshould come by default as far as I know03:05
PeregrineSkywith the dl?03:06
eqisowohhhh03:06
eqisownm, I misunderstood03:06
PeregrineSkyokie03:07
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eqisowhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dapper/MD5SUMS03:07
eqisowthere you are peregrine03:07
steveireantx: just hit apply changes.03:09
steveireyou can preview before you do that too.03:09
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antxah, thanks... its just not so easy to figure this out without the helpfile03:10
steveireI'm constantly amazed at what packages I can get for Linux. Plotting and the likes of k3dsurf. All free too. Helps us students out03:10
steveireAny more questions, just fire away03:10
antxnot right now, but I might be back shortly... ;-)03:11
Hobbseesteveire: yeah, exactly :D03:13
steveireAre you studying Hobbsee?03:14
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Hobbseesteveire: yeah, i'm at uni at the moment03:14
steveireStudying what? I'm engineering03:14
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Hobbseesteveire: bachelor of technology in optoelectronics.03:17
steveirefibre optics and the likes?03:18
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pedroHello again03:19
pedroI am going crazy with the setup or configuration of my printer03:19
pedroI would be glad to receive some help please03:19
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eqisowwell lets take a crack at it then03:21
pedroMy printer is an HP PSC 1315 All-in-One03:21
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pedroKubuntu Breezy03:21
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pedroI have proved to install with hpijs and hpoj drivers but the problem is that print very very slow03:21
Hobbseesteveire: that's the one :)03:22
pedroit can take about 9 minuts to print one page03:22
pedroany suggestions?03:22
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LeeJunFanHobbsee: know who that is speaking now?03:24
LeeJunFanHobbsee: I assume you are watching.03:24
HobbseeLeeJunFan: no, i'm not watching..i was building...03:24
LeeJunFanI missed the introduction on the transit to work.03:25
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eqisowpedro, I'm looking, but I don't see where it *should* have any problems... I mean, accoridng to HP and linuxprinting, it should work03:26
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pedroyes03:26
pedroI have search everywhere03:26
eqisowhave you thought about maybe giving HP a ring?03:27
pedrothat's not the way03:27
pedromy printer work right in Windows03:27
Get_Hyphyhaha03:27
pedroand worked right in other distros of Linux (Mandrake and Suse)03:27
epOn shutdown, I got a message  something to the effect of "tmpfs is busy", remounted as read only.  Subsequent lock up.03:28
pedroI remember to have a similar problem with a debian distro03:28
pedroand now with Kubuntu03:28
epSo I check my tmp partition in kwiqdisk and it list type as "?"  and theres some message about it being mounted multible times.  How can I fix?03:29
nagihello.03:29
eqisowhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters?highlight03:31
eqisowthat may be of some help Pedro, I'm not sur03:31
eqisowe03:31
eqisowit list your printer specifically03:31
pedroI am going to see it03:32
pedrothanx03:32
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antxI have now firefox running, but it is version 1.08. Id like 1.5.03. how do I get it? on the mozilla site I can download a gzip file but I dont know how to install it. I guess I really need a package. can I find them from within adept or synaptic?03:40
steveireI noticed the same thing. I got it from the firefox site, and it was really simple. Of course, since then I've installed dapper, which has ffv1.5.0.2.03:42
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insanekanehi ... whats a good mail server for kubuntu ?03:43
yanissendmail?03:44
steveirehttp://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.0.3.html <<< antx03:44
antxjo, but as a newbie I did not want to mess with RCs...03:44
LeeJunFaninsanekane: postfix03:44
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insanekaneLeeJunFan: is it easy to setup ?03:46
insanekaneLeeJunFan: i want to set up like, kane@localhost kind of addresses03:46
insanekaneLeeJunFan: basically, so that roundup will work03:46
LeeJunFaninsanekane: yeah, that'll work w/o config.03:46
eqisowantx: there are two ways to get FF 1.5. One would be to update to dapper (which is quite stable), the second would be to follow the instructions at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:47
antxbut what do I do after I have the ff files extracted? how do I actually install it?03:47
LeeJunFaninsanekane: you shouldn't have to do anything but install it to get localhost mail working.03:47
antxokay, I have a look...03:47
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xwolf-t03:49
klarkinmorning :/03:50
xwolf-sup.03:50
Get_Hyphyinsanekane: i set up exim4  + courier-imap + squirrelmail (webmail client) , it took a little reading, but it was a piece of piss03:50
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Get_Hyphyinsanekane: i use a hostname  and mx record  from dyndns.com03:51
xwolf-i can reach two routers, 192.168.254.254 and 192.168.10.254, is there a way to create two separate non-simultaneous ethernet interfaces - like eth0 and eth1 - and swap between those routers just by enabling eth0 and disabling eth1 and vice-versa?03:53
insanekaneGet_Hyphy: my goal right now is to get localhost mail working ... so that I can use roundup03:55
LeeJunFanxwolf-: yes, you could even load balance between them for greater speeds.03:55
LeeJunFanxwolf-: google for advanced routing how-to03:55
xwolf-load balance?03:55
insanekaneGet_Hyphy: hopefully, soon, i'll be able to hire a sysadmin who knows all this03:55
LeeJunFanxwolf-: load balancing would use both of them at once.03:56
xwolf-oh.. not possible i gues.03:57
xwolf-s/gues/guess03:57
squillaHi all -->I may be speaking out of turn here - but it's very possible to use the route command to specify nets to devices - saw it in man route a couple of days ago - would that not help?03:58
Get_Hyphyinsanekane: roundup?03:58
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insanekaneGet_Hyphy: its an issue tracking software in Python04:00
Get_Hyphysquilla: id say youre on the right track, probably very easy to make it so that - if eth0 is down, then use eth1 - or some such04:00
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steveireSo, Dapper is to be supported for three years. When the repos are frozen, does that mean that there will still be no non-security updates for three years, instead of the current six months? If I understand what's going on that it...04:01
steveirethat is*04:01
steveireDo I have the right idea?04:01
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insanekanesteveire: there will be security updates04:02
steveireno non-security updates?04:02
eqisowI assume there will be backports as well04:02
eqisowand ther ewill still be a new version every 6 months04:02
eqisowthe next one is already named even04:02
steveireOh, right. it'll just be supported for three?04:02
eqisowexactly04:03
steveireHow long willl breezy be supported for? What's the name of the next version?04:03
squillaGet_Hyphy: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70179004:03
eqisowthey don't usually keep doing security updates that long for old versions04:03
eqisowEdgy Eft04:03
Get_Hyphyoutlandish octopus04:03
eqisownot sure what the usual support length is, tbh04:03
steveire6.12 i presume?04:03
thevIsn't Dapper after Breezy?04:03
eqisow6.10 actually04:04
squillaisn't Edgy Eft supposed to be bleeding edge land?04:04
steveirehmmm04:04
eqisowthey plan on keeping to the 6 months, even though Dapper was late04:04
steveireah.04:04
thevIf I have Breezy installed now, is it easy to update to Dapper?04:04
thevor is a reinstall required04:04
steveiresquilla: What do you mean bleeding edge? dapper is pretty cutting edge anyway.04:04
eqisowEdgy will be pushing a lot of new features, and will likely have less polish than Dapper. Hence the long support period for Dapper04:04
eqisowthev, it's as simple as updating you repositories and doing apt-get dist-upgrade04:05
eqisowyour*04:05
thevgreat04:05
thevsounds good04:05
thevI can handle that :)04:05
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squillasteveire: true - I read something about a "developers version" and thought it was Edgy Eft04:06
steveireWhat do you mean polish? user-friendlyness?04:06
eqisowlack of bugs mostly :p04:06
thevI'm guessing it's a little more involved to add a 64bit version?04:06
thevright now I have 32 bit04:06
eqisowsince they are trying so many new things, and they only have 4 months to do it04:06
eqisowerr, going to 64bit might require a reinstall. I'm not sur eon that04:06
squillasteveire: ... and Dapper is supposed to freeze end May is it not? That would make it stable and therefore not a bleeder04:06
steveireeqisow: That's what I was thinking. 4 months is not a long time04:06
theveqisow - can I dual boot?04:07
eqisowif you shrink the current partition and do a fresh install, yeah04:07
eqisownot if you dist-upgrade, if that's what you were thinking04:07
hiasllis it possible to update breezy i386 to breezy amd64?04:08
thevno, I want to have a dual boot 32/64 - my scanner drivers aren't available in 32bit04:08
theverr... 64bit04:08
steveireBleeding edge is probably a phrase that means more to you than it does to me...04:08
eqisowright, well there is a way to add support for 32 bit apps in the 64 bit version, however I'm not familiar with it04:08
thevchrooting, but I could never get it to work04:08
eqisowhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457504:09
thevyou basically have the 32b kernel installed, but boot into the 64b one04:09
eqisowhowto there, might be helpful /shrug04:09
squillapity - I'm interested in that04:09
thevI dunno... I went through all of this awhile ago and couldn't ge tit working in Ubuntu or Gentoo04:09
thevthen I killled linux and went back to windows to get some projects done... now I'm back :)04:10
steveireSo what does 'bleeder' mean? concurrent development type stuff?04:10
thevI'll give it another look though04:10
eqisowbleeding edge basically means the newest available. it also means more unsquashed bugs04:10
theveqisow - but a much greater l33t factor, right? :)04:11
eqisowlol, I suppoe04:11
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eqisowsuppose even04:11
eqisowyou get shiny new toys first, but they tend to break :p04:11
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thevanyone know how linux NTFS access is progressing?04:12
thevreading seems to be fine04:12
thevhow reliable is writing now?04:12
nagiguys are working on that :)04:12
Seantateranyone had a memory leak in beta 2? I'm not sure what did it, but my 512 MB memory and 1024MB swap file got crammed full04:13
eqisowif you're not willing to risk screwing up your windows partition, I wouldn't go for it just yet04:13
nox-Handthev: Writing is still experimental.04:13
thevI'm leaving all my mounts read only for now, thats for sure04:13
thevI don't want to lose 2 years of digital photos and projects :)04:14
nox-HandI got an error whilst installing the beta, so I just installed the stable.. The stable new version is out next month anywho..04:14
SeantaterI had on konversation, konqueror and amarok04:14
eqisowSeantater, beta 2 is working fine for me. you do know that Linux uses extra RAM to cache files, right?04:14
SeantaterI know -- but that's not it..04:14
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SeantaterThe computer slowed down gradually until it stopped04:14
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SeantaterIt's not the cpu -- becasue the fan woule become louder04:15
eqisowright, well I'm not sure. everything is running ok for me04:15
SeantaterI tried enabling the swap as it was happening, but the swap file was already on and full04:15
Seantaterby the time it got finshed saying that -- it stopped04:16
eqisowI'm using like 600MB ram atm and no swap. I've had the system up for a couple of weeks now04:16
SeantaterBut it's really weird to see what Linux will do to save memory04:16
eqisowMaybe it's a specifica app causing the issue?04:17
SeantaterI thought so04:18
eosynI think azureus or ff might have done mine the same way04:18
eosynor mebee the amarok.. that was running too04:18
eqisowjava and ff are def both memory hogs04:18
eqisowesp java04:18
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eosynyep04:18
eosynazureus is a big pig04:19
SeantaterI thought A) konversation was holding too many lines of text B) konqueror had problems displaying the web C) amarok's buffers had a memory leak04:19
eqisowbut to stop the system entirely? I dunno04:19
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udohello04:19
steveire'story?04:19
udoi'm running breezy is that the latest stable?04:19
rvfhudo: yes04:19
steveireyep04:19
udoI installed kxdocker, are there any other that are is better?04:19
eqisowyes04:19
udowhihch ones are better ?04:19
rvfhWhat is kxdocker? Ans what is it for?04:20
eqisowerr, I was yesing your first question, sorry. never had a go at kxdocker myself04:20
udorvfh: is a docker?04:20
jpatrickdocker app for KDE04:20
udoare there any others?04:21
udois there a app so I configure the icons?04:21
zorglu2q. any idea of where i could find libxine-extracodec ? i enabled all the repository in the default apt/source.list but none seems to provide it04:21
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udohow do I make kdoxkcerx startup at kde starting?04:21
nxv_hi is there a way to tell my laptop to auto connect if it finds a unprotected wlan04:21
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rvfhudo: ~/.kde/AutostartI think04:22
eqisowzorg, I have it avail in my repos.. but I'm not sure which one is comes from, heh04:22
nxv_or have a set of keys it automaticaly usese when it finds the appropriate essid04:22
rvfhlibxine-extracodecs is in multiverse...04:22
zorglu2hmm ok so i miss something04:23
eqisowInxv_, I *think* kwifimanager should do it04:24
zorglu2well i did a apt-get update just to be sure04:24
zorglu2but still not found04:24
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rvfhYup, add multiverse at the end of one of the deb lines in /etc/apt/sources.list04:24
waterpiehi all04:24
eqisowhello waterpie04:25
zorglu2ahhhhhh ok i think i get it04:25
rvfhThat's mine: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse04:25
udokooldock or ksmoothdock arn't in breaazy are they?04:25
zorglu2it need dapper multiverse04:25
zorglu2and i got dapper-backport04:25
zorglu2rvfh: thanks04:25
antxdoes kubuntu assign a default root password on install? It never ask me for one and I cant log in as root...04:25
eqisowno udo04:26
udoeqisow: how do I get them?04:26
eqisowubuntu has no root account by default04:26
rvfhit's different. you want multiverse from dapper, not dapper-backports. Look at my line for reference,,,04:26
zorglu2rvfh: yep i understand now :)04:26
zorglu2thanks for your help04:27
waterpieis it possible to install kubuntu on top of my existing win/mandriva system, so as to wip of the / partition of mandriva and preserve the /home/username partition?04:27
antxaha. how do I access then folders like /opt?04:27
eqisowyou can do admin stuff with sudo and your user password04:27
rvfhwaterpie: is /home a different partition?04:27
antxaha, okay. thanks04:27
rvfhzorglu2: welcome mate!04:28
nxv_how can i configure my wireless for auto connect at boot time?04:28
waterpie/home is a diff partition.04:28
rvfhSo that's easy: re-format / at install (if you're sure you want to do this), but careful not to reformat /home.04:28
waterpie...but I would like, if possible, to preserve that partition as the real /home partition, with all the configs I have done to eg .kde04:29
nagibye.04:29
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eqisowudo, both apps have .deb packages available at kde-look.org . however, they are for debian sid and may have dependancy issues04:29
rvfhShould do: KDE will update config files to the Kubuntu version of KDE. No way back though!04:29
thevcan ubuntu handle RPMs?04:29
rvfhthev: should do04:30
eqisowyes, you can convert them to deb with alien04:30
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thevalien eh04:30
eqisowapt-get install alien04:30
eqisowthen sudo alien -d filename04:30
eqisowand it generates a deb package based on the rpm04:30
waterpiei am ok with upgarding to the kubuntu version of configs, but eg would i be able to just open kmail or akregator and see what i now have?04:31
eqisowalthough I'm still not sure why alien needs root privelige /shrug04:31
waterpie..the mails, the saved feeds & content, etc?04:31
eqisowI'm not sure waterpie, but I *think* you could back up your feeds and stuff as a text file before the reformat04:32
rvfhDon't know about that, and would like to!04:32
rvfhBackup is ALWAYS a good idea.04:32
udorvfh: are there any clean ways?04:32
ccc_!alien04:33
ubotuI heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/04:33
eqisownot sure if kontact has an export function...04:33
waterpieeqisow: the idea is that I shouldn't reformat the /home partition, and it would just "plug in" to kubuntu04:33
rvfhudo: clean ways to do what, sorry. The backup?04:33
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eqisowmeh, the biggest problem I've ever had with alien is the resulting deb not having the proper dependencies, which means you can just remove it :p04:34
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rvfheqisow: maybe rpm -i --nodeps is best, if you're sure you have the dependencies installed.04:35
ikochanganyone know where rc.local file is?04:35
waterpieikochang: locate <filenameYouSearch>04:35
ikochanghmmm, no such beast.  is there an equivalent on kubuntu?04:36
rvfhind /etc -name rc.local04:36
eqisowrvfh, can you manager rpms install that way with synaptic and apt-get?04:36
LeeJunFanikochang: I think with breezy it doesn't recognize rc.local - however dapper has one if you create /etc/rc.local04:37
rvfhI mean find, not ind04:37
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rvfheqisow: I don't think so, but I may be wrong. I remember something called kpackage that was meant to rule them all... Long ago!04:37
ikochangwell, i need to make sure that my machine has ip_forward and tcp_syncookies started at boot.  what file would i look inside on a breezy machine?04:38
rvfhYou could install with --no-deps, then find the binaries (tricky already) and run ldd on them to make sure they have the libs they need?04:39
Darth_Tuxany ibook users here?04:39
LeeJunFanikochang: sysctl.conf04:40
LeeJunFanikochang: /etc/sysctl.conf04:40
rvfhBTW: /etc/init.d/rc.local04:40
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waterpieok, thanks for the answers. cu04:41
rvfhUse with moderation!04:41
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ikochangmuch obliged04:41
LeeJunFanearlier than dapper doesn't have rc.local, you can create a dir called /etc/rc.boot, and it will run scripts you put in it on every boot.04:43
steveirewhat about bootmisc.sh? is that something different?04:45
LeeJunFansteveire: never heard of that.04:46
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ikochangalso, i've found an iptables config script that i'd like to use, but it's setup on a redhat machine.  where would i place the script and how would i start it?04:47
steveire /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh I think it's like an autoexec.bat04:47
steveireI'm a n00b, though, so don't listen to me04:47
Darth_Tuxcan anyone explain to me how to resize a partition using parted?04:49
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insanekaneDarth_Tux: you should probably use QTParted to do that ...04:50
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thevarggghhhhhhhuuuuuuuuu.... pah!04:51
thevlinux hates my scanner04:51
wattanasakrefresh not support VGA.NV04:53
rvfhikochang: maybe in /etc/rcS; call it S37firewall.04:53
antxso, ff 1.5 is now running from comand line. now I need it to show up in the startmenu (with a nice icon). how do I do this?04:53
rvfhantx: right click on the 'K', go to menu editor, and have fun!04:53
ikochangrvfh> and after i save it to /etc/rcS.d/S37firewall, run "source /etc/rcS.d/S37firewall"?04:55
insanekanethev: :)04:56
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antxvery nice... thanks!!! :-)04:57
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ikochangalso, in my iptables, do i use -p tcp for ipsec traffic, or is it another protocol?04:59
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DeBertIs there any progress in deuglifying KDE's (default) artwork?04:59
DeBerti mean Kubuntu's04:59
insanekaneDeBert: theres some talk about that on the mailing list05:00
DeBertinsanekane: good, good, cause it's almost june, and it shouldn't be shipped like this ;)05:00
insanekaneDeBert: :)05:01
steveireDeBert: What's wrong with it?05:01
steveireI have no sense of aesthetics btw.05:01
DeBertsteveire: it's hideous05:01
DeBertsteveire: i think Kubuntu's default KDE artwork is the ugliest i've ever seen on any distro05:02
steveireDo you mean the background and stuff?05:02
DeBertsteveire: yes05:02
thevDeBert - it's the result of techie people trying to do design... it's always going to end up in abomination :)05:02
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DeBertthev: lol05:02
steveirebubbles are bad. Do you include icons in 'artwork' too?05:02
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DeBertsteveire: icons are pretty oke, but other than that everything else sucks05:03
steveireI'm still not sure what is included in everything else apart from the background. Screensaver? boot splash?05:03
insanekanesteveire: how about colors05:04
insanekanesteveire: and the ugly "Vista" windeco05:05
DeBertsteveire: basically everything that can be configured in System Settings/Appearance. Window borders, widgets, fonts, etc05:05
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steveireWhat colours?05:06
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Dr_Williswe need an ISO standard for themes :P05:07
insanekanesteveire: look in System Settings -> Appearance05:07
DeBertAnd what sucks even more is that theming and installing themes sucks compared to gnome. That's the only thing gnome has over kde i think.05:07
steveirealright.05:07
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DeBertI never managed to install a theme from kdelook. With gnome it's no problem at all, installing something from gnomelook05:08
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Dr_Willishmm - i cant even rember the differeance -  i seem to recall draging/dropping all sorts of themes to the kde theme applet and them installing easially enough.05:09
Dr_Willisbut the way  every theme has like 3 different 'parts' (icons, window decor, colors, any else?) can be a little confusing at times.05:09
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DeBertBut KDE4 is coming, and that should fix a lot. ;)05:10
jageris firefox 1.0.8 all patched and secure like?05:11
jpatrickDeBert: win-deco's are mini-apps tho05:11
ikochangokay, i found what protocol it is, but i'm not completely understanding the input line for it.  anyone up on iptables?05:11
thevDeBert - any idea when that's due?05:11
DeBertthev: somewhere in fall this year i believe05:11
thevah ok05:11
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thevanyone know of a good usb scanner howto for ubuntu?05:12
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jamiepedderany screenshots available of kde4 yet (previews)?/05:12
thevlsusb is seeing it, but I can't get it working05:12
jageris firefox 1.0.8 all patched up and shiney?05:12
jagershould i install 1.5.0.3 or whatever?05:12
tjb891were can I find a list of supported network cards for kubuntu?05:13
jamiepedderthev, it might need firmware to runn05:13
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jamiepedderthev, what scanner is it05:13
DeBertjager: if you installed all updates it is05:13
antxanother question: during install of kubuntu I was asked which network hardware I want to use. I selected the wireless thing and went on. This one works now fine but I also want my standard lan (via cable) to work too. do I still have to set up something somewhere or should it work when I plug in a network cable?05:13
jagerthev: i have a lexmark x73 that needs a file from the windows installation disk to work, perhaps your problem is similar?05:13
thevjamiepedder - its the Epson 317005:13
jagerthanks DeBert05:13
thevjager - i don't think so05:14
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thevthere is a program published for it with sane backend support05:14
thevI had it working in Gentoo 32b awhile back05:14
thevno luck in Ubuntu though05:14
jageryeah prolly not then, xsane told me up front it was missing a file when i installed mine05:14
jamiepedderthev, have you installed the sane backends05:14
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thevjamiepedder - yeah05:15
jamiepeddersorry, just checking, lol05:15
thevI think so :/ - where are they located?05:15
jamiepedderbear with me05:15
thevI'd better double check05:15
steveireantx: do you have your computer connected by cable at the mo?05:15
antxno05:16
jamiepedderthev, you might need the sane-extras package05:16
thevgot it05:16
thevthe backend I need to use is called epkowa05:16
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thevI edited the epkowa.conf to match what lsusb tells me about the scanner05:17
antxI think there must be some settings somewhere, like IP, gateway and such, like under windows too05:17
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thevand I changed /etc/sane.d/dll.conf to reference only epkowa.conf05:17
steveireI can't be entirely sure, but If you connect it up and run pppoeconf, it should work.05:18
n3stormsorry05:18
steveire!pppoe05:18
ubotusomebody said pppoe was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE05:18
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n3stormI would like to know what is the parameter for compiling KDE packages for kubuntu05:18
ikochanganyone know of a channel that i could go to to get iptables info05:18
thevsane-find-scanner also sees the scanner, but scanimage -L doesn't05:18
n3storm!compile05:18
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)05:18
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noxHey, could someone help me? I was playing Free Doom, and it crashed on me, but I forgot what the launch command was, so I cannot killall,.. Can anyone look up the name in Adept'? Free Doom it is called.05:19
n3stormthev: there is a prob with some scanners cause they need to work with usb kernel module instead of libusb05:19
noxHey, no, I have an idea, if I list all processes running, I could kill it. How do I do that?05:19
n3stormps ax05:19
n3stormnox05:19
noxn3storm: Cheers05:19
antxI guess this thing is the eth0 in the network settings dialog... it is disabled at the moment and the enable button doesnt change that05:19
n3stormmmmm05:20
ikochangnox, or you could go to "system-ksysguard" and kill the process there05:20
n3stormstill can't compile properly the package05:20
noxikochang: I cannot, I am in CLI, as my X froze up with the app =|05:20
jamiepedderthev, try editing the epson.conf file in /etc/sane.d and add the info from lsusb about your scanner to it05:21
noxn3storm: is there a way to filter the output to anything with the word Doom in it?05:21
ikochangthen ps ax, or top might show you05:21
jamiepedderie usb 0x000 0x00a05:21
n3stormnox: sorry, I am not a CLI master :(05:21
steveireantx: Yeah, just wait til you've got it connected.05:21
noxn3storm: Okay, but thanks anyway05:21
PeregrineSkyps -ef | less05:22
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antxokay, I have to find a cable...05:22
noxPeregrineSky: will try =)05:22
jamiepedderthen edit /etc/sane.d/snapscan.conf and uncomment the /dev/usb/scanner0 bus=usb line05:22
thevjamiepedder - I already edited epkowa.conf, which is what it's supposed to use05:23
ikochangnox, you can also |grep doom after the ps command to find anything with doom in it05:23
thevwhy do I need to edit snapscan.conf if I'm not using it?05:23
noxikochang: Yup, but it isn't there, so I have bigger problem05:24
jamiepedderdid you edit the other file?05:24
thevyeah05:24
thevand I commented out all the other scanners in the dll.conf file05:24
thevso it's only using epkowa.conf05:24
noxOkay, I was running a script, which I'd VERY much like to continue AFTER I kill X, and this was running in X.. How can I pull it out to a text terminal?05:24
thevseems like it's very close to working... there's just something missing05:25
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ikochangnox, don't know about the last bit, but did top show any likely process as doom?05:26
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jamiepeddergiz a mo05:27
insanekanenox: like using screen ?05:27
jamiepedderill install the sane-extras on mine and have a mooch05:27
noxinsanekane: I am not using screen05:27
thevjamiepedder - k den, thanks05:27
jamiepedderactually i should install my scanner while im at it05:27
jamiepedderlol05:27
thevthere you go05:27
insanekanenox, maybe if you do ... the script will keep running even after you kill X05:27
thev:)05:27
bknhi, does kde use LAME to encode mp3s from the audiocd:/ ioslave?05:28
jamiepedderjust not been bothered until now05:28
noxHm.05:28
jamiepedderwatch me run into probs now05:28
thevhahaha05:28
noxbrb05:28
thevnot so smart now, eh? :p05:28
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antxokay, cable is in, but no luck. the pppoeconf was scanning but said there might be another pppoe running which made it fail...05:28
thevof course yours will probably work05:28
thevjust to make me look that much dumber05:29
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ikochanginsanekane:  not sure about that.  i thought that all that screen did was let the user log out from the machine while leaving his account logged in and all of his processes running05:29
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nox-HandHey,05:29
nox-HandI am nox..05:29
jamiepedderhey thev, u 64 bit by the way05:30
antxshould I disable my wlan for a moment and try pppoeconf again?05:30
thevno, 32b05:30
thevthere's no way it'll work 64b05:30
jamiepedderthank god05:30
jamiepedderi know05:30
jamiepedderjust reading now05:30
steveirewhat does ifconfig give?05:30
jamiepedderlol05:30
thevI learned that the hard way05:31
thevlol05:31
thev(I have X2, so I could run 64b)05:31
steveirethe wlan thing might be worth a shot... What does that link to the wiki say?05:31
nox-HandOh, well, I shall re-start the script X(05:32
nox-HandBBL05:32
jamiepeddernice, wouldnt mind one of them05:32
ikochangnox-Hand:  is your machine bogged down in any way, or is x just locked on you?05:32
nox-Handikochang: Just this Free Doom, when I died, so did X.05:32
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antxhave not checked it yet... ifconfig shows eth0 and eth1 and lo with each a lot of stuff05:32
ikochangis x still listed in top?05:33
bknHi, is anyone here running dapper on a PPC arch?05:33
nox-HandI killed it. Gotta go.05:33
ikochangk05:33
thevbkn - I tried it on an old imac but damn it was slow05:33
thevI couldn't even log in it was so slow in kde, gnome ran... kind of05:34
bknthev: i was going to see if i cound find someone to reproduce a problem that i'm seeing.05:34
thevI'm not running it now, sorry05:34
bknthev: heh, no prob, thanks anyway. i hope you can find something to run on that old imac.05:35
thevbkn - I did... OSX ;)05:35
bkncool05:35
antxwell, the wiki think seems to be for people without a router. I however use one...05:35
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steveireWell then surely your router takes care of all the pppoe stuff?05:37
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antxwhat ever pppoe is, under windows it works and the wlan here works too. I just need to enable the eth0 somehow.05:39
antxis it perhaps that they are conflicting when trying to enable them at the same time?05:40
steveireifconfig eth0 up?05:40
HymnToLifeisn't it ifup eth03 ?05:40
HymnToLifeeth0*05:40
steveirethere's a network manager in the repos I think, that handles all this stuff.05:40
steveireHymnToLife: Possibly. I'm pretty much stabbing in the dark.05:41
h3sp4wnyou need to configure pppd to do pppoe05:41
HymnToLifeh3sp4wn> since he has a router, I don't think he needs pppoe at all05:41
antxwell, perpaps I cant have them active at the same time. wlan and lan I mean...05:42
ikochanghymntolife:  you're right.  if his router is the machine making the connection, he should only have to activate his eth to the router05:42
h3sp4wndidn't read it properly05:43
ikochangantx:  you should be able to.  but i've noticed on my machine that the kde network setup tool doens't exactly work right05:43
jamiepedderthev, can you send me your epkowa.conf file and lsusb details on your scanner?05:44
antxwell, Ill try if I can enable eth0 when eth1 is off... perhaps its just a conflict...05:45
h3sp4wnantx: what are you trying to do that needs wlan and lan active at the same time ? you can only have one default route at a time05:45
antxaha... okay05:45
jamiepedderalso, bad news on my scanner05:45
jamiepedderit works,lol05:45
antxthat explains it05:45
h3sp4wnantx: You can bridge / masquarade the lan and wlan05:46
ikochangantx:  you might want to try webmin.  it's not good for most of the things it says it can do, but i _think_ that it will handle what you want to do05:47
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steveirecheck out network-manager in adept. I've heard good things.05:48
antxwell aslong as I have at least one running it is okay. just want to make sure I can get online when Im not at home with my rooter05:48
antxokay, Ill give it a look anyway05:48
jamiepedderthev, gotta go05:48
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jamiepedderjust found this link though, check it out : http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a9826090/en/projects/linux/hardware/epson-3170/05:49
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antxalright... here is the next thing: I have a NTFS partition with windows on my system. how do I access it? :)05:50
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ikochangantx:  is it mounted on boot?05:50
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antxno, not that I know off (not under linux)05:50
antxhow do I mount it ?05:51
ikochangwell, do you want it mounted at boot or just do it manually?05:51
antxat boot would be nice05:51
ikochangokay, you'll have to edit your /etc/fstab05:52
steveire|diskmounter05:52
steveire!diskmounter05:52
ubotudiskmounter is, like, to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter05:52
steveireI always do that pipe thing...05:52
antxokay, Ill check this out...05:52
ikochangwill that program edit the fstab automagically?05:52
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steveireikochang: yep.05:53
ikochangcool.  learn something new everyday05:53
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steveireIt's just a script05:53
steveireIt offered the ability to write my ntfs as well, but then it didn't seem to be able to.05:54
h3sp4wnTo write to ntfs you need captive ntfs05:54
steveireI don't know why it can't be included in the core of ubuntu.05:54
ikochangi didn't think that ntfs write was completely worked out yet05:54
steveireikochang: That's probably the exact problem. I don't know what captive ntfs is.05:55
h3sp4wncaptive ntfs works but you need some files from windows05:55
h3sp4wn(But If you have an ntfs partition presumably you have a copy of windows on the drive)05:55
steveireI'm not really that pushed to write to it either it must be said...05:56
ikochangi'm out.  later all.05:56
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DeBertWhy does Kubuntu use OpenOffice instead of Koffice?05:56
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joedocDeBert: you can install both.05:58
joedocThere are koffice packages in the repositories05:59
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antxokay, have to reboot... Ill be back...05:59
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stamen81could anybody try to help for one game06:01
jeff_hey guys06:01
jeff_?06:01
stamen81I can't launch it06:01
jeff_what gamE?06:02
joedocDeBert: I think the decision to offer OO by default is because it's common for both Ubuntu and Kubuntu.06:02
stamen81I have download it from loki games06:02
stamen81it is Rune and FAKK206:02
steveireIs koffice better?06:02
jpatrickjoedoc: it's because OOo is more stable06:02
stamen81but I can't play them06:02
joedocjpatrick: probably. I've only use koffice a little, and I use OOo a lot.06:03
jeff_after upgrading to kubuntu beta, i havent been able to share files with my windows machine on the router. it says that there may be a firewall, but im sure there isnt06:03
joedocI'll take your word for that. ;)06:03
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jeff_jpatrick: i like koffice better. open office is flashy but koffice is faster06:03
jpatrickjoedoc, jeff_: KOffice _may_ go into Dapper+106:04
jeff_jpatrick: awesome :D06:04
jpatricknote the _may_06:04
joedocI agree with you on the speed but I'm kind of spoiled by OOo.06:05
jeff_yeah06:05
antxwell... done with rebooting, now, where can I find this ntfs partition?06:05
joedocI have to do frequent doc sharing with MS Office users, and OOo does a good job, for the most part.06:05
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jeff_does anybody else have my file sharing problem?06:05
joedocjeff_ do you have ssamba configured on the machine?06:06
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joedocsamba06:06
joedocsamn KB06:06
jeff_i dont know :S06:06
joedocdamn KB06:06
jeff_lol06:06
jeff_is the config in the kcontrol?06:06
joedocjeff_, in order to share files with a windows box, you need to configure your Linux box to do so.06:07
joedocyeah, hang on06:07
jeff_ok06:07
antxah found it... its in the media folder...06:07
joedocJeff_ under Internet and networking settings, use File Sharing. You have to be root.06:08
steveirewas just gonna tell you that antx06:08
antx:-)06:08
steveireall fine and dandy?06:08
joedocI'm assuming you're sharing stuff on the Linux box with Windows?06:08
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jeff_ok06:08
jeff_yeah i would like to do that too XD06:08
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antxjust want my data available under linux and windows... seems to work :)06:09
jeff_but i would settle for sharing files from my windows box06:09
joedocThe key is making sure that samba in installed. There's a HOW-TO on one of the sites that details how to set this up.06:09
joedocstand by06:10
stamen81so nobody goes to help  me06:10
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stamen81am I right06:10
jeff_joedoc: ok i clicked admin mode and put in my pass, and it says im in admin mode but everything is still grey06:10
jeff_stamen81: dude i think you need wine to try and run those games06:11
jeff_stamen81: dot hey say that they are good for linux on the site?06:11
stamen81jeff_, but they are made for linux06:11
jeff_stamen81: and you have to compile them yourself?06:11
stamen81they are made to play them in linux06:11
stamen81no06:11
stamen81they are compiled06:12
stamen81and the setup runs06:12
stamen81and installs the game06:12
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stamen81but after trying to lauch them in konzole06:12
stamen81the game gives me an errot06:12
stamen81error06:12
jeff_whats the error?06:12
joedocjeff_: here's the link too Samba and Kubuntu that might help: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%2906:12
jeff_joedoc: thanks man06:13
joedocjeff_: here's the link too Samba and Kubuntu that might help: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SettingUpSamba06:13
stamen81jeff_,  wait I will give you the link from pastebin06:13
jeff_lol k06:13
joedocjeff_: Im guessing that the tools are geayed because you don't have all the samba stuff installed.06:14
joedocgrayed06:14
h3sp4wnstamen81: what game ? (If if its civilisation call to power for linux - then I can probably help you)06:14
stamen81jeff_, http://pastebin.com/70196006:14
stamen81h3sp4wn, no it isn't06:14
stamen81it is not civilization06:15
stamen81h3sp4wn, I have rune and FAKK206:15
joedocjeff_ that pages is kind of Ubuntu specific, since it shows Gnome screen shots, but you can muddle through it.06:15
jeff_ok06:15
joedocOnce you get past the installing samaba part, you should be good to go using the KDE tools.06:16
jeff_stamen81: hmm06:17
stamen81I can give you the other error from rune06:17
stamen81if you want06:17
jeff_stamen81: ok, check if there is a forum for this site, see if there is anything there06:17
stamen81ok06:18
jeff_stamen81: email the person witht eh bug report06:18
stamen81I will give you the other error06:18
stamen81maybe you can help to solve it06:18
jeff_stamen81: go to searchirc.com and search for the site or the dame for linux and ask if anybody knows anything there06:18
jeff_ok06:18
stamen81ok06:18
h3sp4wnThere old loki games the company does not exist anymore06:19
stamen81jeff_, this is the other error: http://pastebin.com/70196806:19
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antxso, now playing DVDs. kaffeine says: Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading from DVD. anyone knows what that might be?06:19
h3sp4wnstamen81: have a look at this http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Running_Old_Loki_Games it will probably help you06:20
jeff_stamen81: hmm06:20
stamen81h3sp4wn, 10x I will look06:21
antxdoes kubutnu install imediately the right graphics drivers or should I go to www.ati.com and get some from there. (feels a bit slow...)06:26
h3sp4wn!ati06:28
ubotuwell, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358906:28
antxthanks... seems I should look there first before asking here06:29
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DietrichRDoes anyone know why #kde is not working?06:30
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steveireantx: I sometimes think so, but then again, you have to know what you're looking for, and what you need if you want to set up properly. Have you seen this?06:30
steveire!mp306:30
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped06:30
ubotuI guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:30
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jpatrickDietrichR: is here06:31
DietrichRI get forwarded to ##overflow06:31
jpatrickodd06:31
antxseen what?06:32
steveirerestricted formats06:32
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steveireIs this your first linux installation, antx?06:32
antxerm... you lost me...06:32
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antxI tried suse a few weeks back but just to look at it...06:33
antxthis is the first real atempt06:33
jpatrick!mp306:33
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped06:33
uboturumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:33
antxmeaning I really want to use it06:33
jpatrick^see the link above06:34
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ruisuhi06:34
antxerm, is the mp3 stuff here for me? I never asked for mp3. or did I miss something here?06:35
antxor has it something to do with the dvd playing problem?06:36
steveireantx: Most people want to be able to play restricted formats. They are not default playable in linux06:36
steveireI assumed you might want to see it.06:36
antxwell, at some point I will want to play mp3s but one step at a time... ;-)06:37
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ruisuhey, i tryed to install the deb of aarok-xine, but it sais kdelibs4 is not installed06:39
ruisubut i do have them installed06:39
ruisu:(06:40
jpatrick!pastebin06:42
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126906:42
jpatrick^post error there06:42
antxoh boy, I just realize ubotu is a bot... :-)))06:43
ruisumhm06:44
Blissexubotu: how are you today?06:45
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, Blissex06:45
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ruisuhmm06:46
m5mI just downloaded the latest eclipse (not in the repos) and am able to run it right out of the freshly un-tarred directory without any installation at all.  Is there any good reason why I should 'install it'06:46
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Blissexm5m: well, several, but for things like that just putting it into '/usr/local/eclipse' is good enough, if you know what you are doing...06:51
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ruisuiso06:52
ruisuwith pastebin the lines get together?06:52
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bknhi all. is there a way to recompile a kubuntu package, say kdebase,  if i want to make a source change? i don't want to install from source and have files scattered about my system.06:57
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steveirelavaps is interesting07:00
steveireWhat port does adept use? It's not 80?07:00
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steveireany way to change it?07:00
steveireI'd like to be able to it in college, where there's a proxy, and I have to use 848407:01
taylorcan anyone help me? I'm having trouble installing kubuntu.. it's getting frozen07:01
steveireat what point, taylor07:02
steveire?07:02
taylorone sec.. let me start the install again07:02
roniezthe DVD version froze for me to... i had to download the CD version.07:02
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insanekanesteveire: you have to you APT HTTP Proxy07:02
taylorso I get the "to install the default, hit enter"07:02
taylorand I hit enter07:02
taylorand I get lines of code07:03
taylorand the last thre lines are:07:03
insanekanesteveire: the second you should be 'use'07:03
steveireinsanekane: Do I need a package?07:03
insanekanesteveire: nope07:03
steveire!apt proxy07:04
ubotusteveire: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:04
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insanekanesteveire: there is a howto on the net ... google for it ?07:04
steveirewindmill?07:04
steveireI'll have a look insanekane. Chairs.07:04
insanekanechairs ?07:04
taylor[4294671.120000]  PCI: Using configuration type 1, [4294671.120000]  mtrr: v2.0 (20020519), [4294671.121000]  ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050729, and then the cd drive stops spinning, and nothing happens07:04
taylorall I have is a blinking cursor07:05
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steveireIrish accent. cheers.07:05
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steveire:)07:05
steveire!apt_proxy07:05
ubotuwell, apt_proxy is for Apt via a http proxy, make a file called apt.conf in /etc/apt and put this in it...     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://PROXYADDRESS:PORT";07:05
h3sp4wnsteveaire: I don't know about adept but apt-get / aptitude respect "export http_proxy=http://192.168.1.2:8080" for example07:05
taylorany thoughts?07:06
steveiretaylor: tell the type of computer, and the likes. It's breezy? Did you check the cd?07:06
taylorhrm.. the cd verified when I burned it07:07
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taylortype of comp: pentium III, a sony vaio07:07
steveireI'll try that stuff. I assume if it works with apt-get, it'll work with adept.07:07
taylori'm trying to do just 'server' now, and I get the same stop point07:07
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steveiretaylor: I don't know. Have you searched the forums?07:08
taylormaybe this means something: "checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (no cpio magic); looks like an initrd [...]  ACPI: looking for DSDT in initrd... not found!07:09
antxare you sure it is frozen? how long did you wait?07:09
taylorhrm.. 10 minutes07:09
antxwell, thats too long indeed...07:10
taylorand I don't hear the trademark "cpu clicking"07:10
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taylormaybe I should try ubuntu instead07:10
antxI installed kubuntu from dvd just yesterday night and it worked...07:12
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taylorisherealright.. i'm back07:13
taylorishereso would ubuntu maybe be a better place to start?07:13
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TheNightRider``im back with problems07:15
TheNightRider``lol07:15
TheNightRider``when i log into icq with Kopete, Kopete crashes07:16
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alechello07:18
alecI have a quick question this is my first day using kubuntu, am i in the right place for a bit of help?07:18
Blissexalec: yes.07:19
Blissexalec: ideally the right place is the Wiki, but here too :-)07:19
alecok here goes, in the terminal window I can enter su root, and when prompted for the root password i enter it and get root as part of the prompt so I am guessing that the user switch worked however anything in the gui that requires root priviliges when prompted for password, it doesn't let me log in as su07:20
Blissex!root07:20
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.07:20
steveireDoes that work in any other linux distro, alec?07:22
alecwhich the su root?07:22
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Blissexalec: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:22
steveiresu in a terminal, any your session becomes a root session. I thought you'd have to log out, and log in as root07:23
alecblissex, i was just reading that page, seems that i should just use the user password07:23
Blissexalec: not quite: you should just use 'sudo' not 'su'07:23
steveireany should be and07:23
alecblissex, but i don't type sudo when prompted in the gui, just the p-word for the logged in user correct?07:25
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alecblissex when doing the above i get conversation with su failed07:26
jpatrickalec: for GUI use: kdesu07:26
Blissexalec: as the page says clearly, in Ubuntu/Kubuntu you must use 'sudo'.07:26
alecblissex, i understand that, I'm just clicking the admin button at the bottom of the adept window in order to be able to install some other packages, and I'm having trouble, the Run as root KDE su <2> window gives me the converasation with su failed error07:27
Blissexalec: the use 'sudo' to assign a password to 'root', as in : 'sudo passwd root'07:28
steveirealec: You use the password you made at installtime07:28
steveirehmmm07:28
steveireI just installed 3ddesktop. Looks interesting, but doesn't seem to work07:29
steveireIs it only for a gnome desktop?07:29
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TheNightRider``steveire: yeah only for gnome07:33
TheNightRider``doesnt work for me either07:33
steveirehmmm. Just looking for some neat desktop apps atm.07:33
Seantaterno -- not only for gnome.07:35
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SeantaterI used 3ddesktop of kde07:35
Seantaternot a shred of gnome on it07:35
Seantaterof cource-- I don't remember how I got it there..07:35
steveireof course.07:36
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aegishey, how would I go about getting gcc on kubuntu? I've been smashing my head against a wall for two hours trying to make it work, with no luck07:36
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steveireI'm not too interested specifically in that, just looking for some neat apps07:36
Seantateraegis: install build-essential07:36
aegisI installed from the latest live cd, so is it too late for that?07:37
steveirealec: your password issues sorted?07:37
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Seantateraegis: I don't understand -- you installed it on a live cd?07:39
aegisyeah07:39
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aegisI booted up from cd, and there was an installer on the desktop07:39
aegisI installed from that07:39
alecnope kde su returned with error window keeps returning07:40
remnonhey, anyone having a similar problem ? i updated my KDE thorough adept with a sources list i got from the sources list generator, and followed an instruction in Wiki on how to get ATI drivers working properly07:40
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remnonwell, now that i did that, i changed the driver-line in xorg.conf from ATI to FGRLX and it botched the picture on my screen but the image that i saw on my TV was normal and crisp07:42
remnonany idea what i might've done wrong ? O_o07:42
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Flosofthey07:42
Seantateron your tv?07:42
remnonyeah07:42
SeantaterFlosoft: hello07:42
h3sp4wnremon: You added fglrx to the bottom of /etc/modules ?07:42
Seantaterremnon: Okay -- you have a tv attached to your computer -- new to me..07:42
FlosoftRiddel: should I host the Beta2?07:42
remnonheh, TV out on the card is a handy thing :p07:43
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Seantaterremnon: perhaps I should be quiet and not so annoying07:43
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remnoneh ? O_o07:43
remnonh3sp4wn:  nope, not yer07:43
remnonyet *07:43
remnonwell, it's there anyways07:44
remnondidn't touch it07:44
h3sp4wnremnon: you may or may not need Option      "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" under device (in the section with Driver     "fglrx")07:45
remnonah.. ok07:45
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aegisokay, I have downloaded both gcc-4.1.0.tar.bz2 (and unzipped it) as well as a bunch of rpm's to install gcc/binutils/glibc/kernelheaders onto my desktop; where do I go from there?07:47
aegisgcc doesn't show up in the adept installer07:47
crimsun...07:48
crimsunwhy not install build-essential?07:48
crimsundo you have the main repo enabled?07:48
aegishow do I do this?07:48
aegisand what do you mean by main repo?07:49
crimsunI'm not familiar w/ Adept, but you need an uncommented main line in /etc/apt/sources.list07:49
remnonhmm...07:49
crimsundeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted07:49
crimsunor if you're using dapper: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted07:50
aegisI should mention I don't have internet access on this computer, I'm trying to get gcc to compile my wireless drivers >.<07:50
remnonh3sp4wn:  to what form should i add the line Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" into the xorg.conf ?07:50
aegis(by this computer I mean the linux box, not the one I'm using to chat in IRC)07:50
crimsunaegis: ndiswrapper doesn't work temporarily?07:51
remnonjust slap it in there ?07:51
crimsunaegis: what chipset is it?07:51
aegisit's a usb wireless receiver, Z1211 I think07:51
crimsunaegis: that's supported afaik07:51
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remnonhmm.. i'll try something07:57
remnonwish me luck :p07:57
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gilhello07:59
gilcan someone help me with synaptic07:59
gilgot some corruption going on here it wont start08:00
gilis anyone here t08:01
mrfishhatapt-get synaptic ?08:01
gilno i have synaptic08:02
mrfishhatfrom a terminal08:02
gili have all that08:02
gilit was working fine....now it wont load up08:02
gilthe GUI08:02
gilit starts to load and then nothing08:02
mrfishhatyou could use adept to remove it08:02
mrfishhatand re add08:02
gildid that removed synaptic reinstalled it from terminal08:02
gilwont let me access it08:03
mrfishhathmm08:03
gilwont let me access other admin setups08:03
gilit all happened after i tried to install this theme08:03
gildidnt like it08:03
gilnow it wont let me access several things either from gnome or KDE08:03
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remnondamnit... it still doesn't work... :(08:04
remnonthe picture on my disp goes all white, and extremely out of contrast08:05
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remnonwhile the picture on the TV remains really crisp and great08:05
gilwhat is the config file that loads up synaptic08:05
gili think mine got screwed ujp08:05
gilanyone?08:05
mrfishhatremnon: does yor disp work on another machine?08:06
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remnonyeah, and as soon as i change the fglrx line back to ATI it restores08:07
remnonso it's not a hardware question08:08
gilwhen i click synaptic it asks for password...then hourglass comes on...then nothing08:08
gillike it cannot start ujp08:08
gilup08:08
remnonthere's just something in the settings that i can't figure out :(08:08
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BlankB!nvidia08:11
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:11
remnon!ati08:12
ubotuI guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358908:12
murph2481how come my amarok 1.4beta3 doesn't play music? the only thing i can get to play MP3's is VLC??08:12
murph2481i ask it to play and about 2 seconds later it says playlist complete08:12
murph2481everything is up to date and I am running dapper beta208:13
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remnonhow can i check my kernel version ?08:14
FauxFauxuname -a08:14
fatejudgeris anyone here able to use vnc4server in Dapper?08:15
fatejudgermine breaks on dependencies that aren't available08:15
gilhere08:15
gili get this error when i start up synaptic08:15
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yacoob:)08:16
gilit says... child error08:16
gilchild 1 error08:16
gilanyoneknow what this means08:16
fatejudgergil: I'd ask the people in #ubuntu, most of us use Adept here08:16
yacoobis there any reason for everything EXCEPT amarok playing sounds, on live kubuntu dvd? :D08:16
fatejudgeryacoob: lack of codecs?08:17
gilok08:17
humboltwhat is the status of ltsp in dapper?08:17
murph2481what codecs do i need?08:17
fatejudgergil: you don't like adept?08:17
humboltWhat version of ltsp is in there? Do we have support for local CDs, USB storage, floppy yet? What about sound support?08:17
gilno i dont mind adept08:17
yacoobfatejudger: is there a way to fix it, on live cd? :>08:17
fatejudgerhumbolt: when DIDN'T Dapper have support for that?08:17
gili just have always used synaptic08:17
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giland now  something has made its config file corrup08:18
fatejudgergil: you ought to give Adept a try, you'd probably like it08:18
fatejudgeryacoob: I wouldn't know, I've never used the Live CD08:18
yacoobAh. Lemme rephraes that: what package is needed for the codecs?08:18
gilit wont let me start Adept in root mode either08:20
gilread-only mode08:20
fatejudgergil: you have to close synaptic first08:20
antxokay, I give up on those ati drivers. by all means, this is just too complicated. all those things one has to do...08:20
fatejudgerlol08:20
murph2481figured it out08:20
murph2481needed gstreamer08:21
murph2481:)08:21
yacoobfatejudger: any hints?08:21
fatejudgeryacoob: like I said, I've never used the live cd08:21
yacoobfatejudger: like I rephrased, which package contains the codecs?08:21
fatejudgeryacoob: which sound system are you using?08:21
yacoobxine.08:22
fatejudgeryacoob: win32codecs08:22
yacooband libxine-main1 is in place.08:22
fatejudger!seveas08:22
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages08:22
fatejudgergo there to get that package if you need it08:22
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yacoobRighto, thanks.08:23
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humboltfatejudger: in LTSP!!!08:24
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remnonhrmph.. still no luck08:26
remnonoh well.. i'm too tired to fiddle around with it anymore08:26
remnoncheers for all the help, you lot :)08:26
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ninHerhi all08:37
remnonwhere can you check your KDE version ?08:37
remnonstupid questions, i know :( but i switched from GNOME to KDE and still trying to get the hang of this08:38
Lorenzodremnon: in any kde app: Help->About KDE08:38
remnonah, cheers08:38
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udohello guys!08:41
udoI have a problem08:41
TheNightRider``udo, what is it?08:41
udoi installed firefox but it doesn't match my kde theme08:41
Lorenzodudo: it won't08:41
TheNightRider``agreed08:41
udowhy not?08:41
TheNightRider``it just doesnt08:42
Lorenzodthe best you can do is get a "KDE-ish" theme for it.08:42
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TheNightRider``firefox has its own "Theme"08:42
udowhat about other applications like the gimp?08:42
Lorenzodthat will give you KDE-like icons08:42
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Lorenzodudo: for gtk applications, make sure you install the gtk2-qt-engine08:43
Lorenzodor whatever it's called.08:43
Lorenzodit uses qt as a rendering engine for gtk widgets.08:43
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udook I installed Lorenzod  what's next?08:45
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LorenzodGo to appearance and themes-> Gtk styles and fonts08:46
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LorenzodThat will be in your control center08:46
udoit doesn't start08:47
Lorenzodudo: hm.. same here.08:47
LorenzodI guess it might be broken atm.08:47
LorenzodCan anybody else confirm this?08:47
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ganymed1hallo08:47
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ganymed1how can i make a shelll script that needs root privileges executable for normal users?08:48
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Lorenzodganymede1: are you sure you want to do this?08:50
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murph2481so what are people's favorite RSS feeds?08:52
Lorenzodmurph2481: I guess that depends on what type of information you are interested in..08:53
murph2481um just general tech (already use Digg, Slashdot, Delcious) just wondering what other people use08:53
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udodoes anyone have /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html for me?08:53
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murph2481oh yea and engadget and gizmodo08:54
jeff_hey gangsters08:54
jeff_Raven301: from toronto are you?08:54
Lorenzodmurph2481: in that vain, how about the register?08:54
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Lorenzodjeff_: "yo, g!" ;-)08:54
jeff_lol08:54
jeff_yayuh08:54
jeff_we run this shit08:55
murph2481already got it and the inquirer :)08:55
murph2481maybe i have a good list already just wondering if there was one i was missing08:55
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jeff_whenever i try to transfer files from my windows box in konqueror, the transfer rate always starts high and drops to zero08:55
jeff_any ideas?08:56
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epI'm experiencing freeze ups on shutdowns, this just started recently, perhaps after a dist-upgrade.  Looks like it's a problem with the tmpfs. Heres the messages: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/702237  Can someone help?09:01
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Lorenzodep: those messages about tmpfs don't necessarily indicate anything wrong..09:03
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Flosofthow can I find out what Kernel I am using?09:03
LorenzodFlosoft: in a terminal: uname -a09:04
Flosoftthx09:04
Lorenzodwill give you quite a bit of info on just a single line ;-)09:04
epLorenzod: how do I get to the bottom of it?09:05
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Lorenzodif you just want the kernel version: uname -r09:05
Lorenzodthat is, IIRC09:05
Lorenzodep: check your logs if there is anything suspicious there..09:06
epLorenzod: which log do I check?09:06
LorenzodI'm not experiencing any lock-ups, but then again, you're using a different kernel09:06
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slow-motionhallo09:08
erovhello09:09
epLorenzod: I haven't experienced lock-ups for the previous 7 months.  This just started occuring.  And once my comp just froze wouldn't respond to the keyboard ctrl-alt-fl or ctrl-alt-bckspc.  The only thing i knew to do was hit reset.09:09
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Lorenzodep: hm..09:10
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cycus_zwisuswhen new kubuntu?09:10
Lorenzodcycus_zwisus: June 1, or so I hear.09:11
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cycus_zwisusthanks09:11
[1] Peterhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/09:12
erovanyone familiar with proper mpeg4 -> mpeg2video (dvd) conversion with ubuntu (or any linux platform really) ?09:12
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erovthe output video always displays incorrect length in players and when i go to make a dvd it's ALL mixed up09:13
erovbut if you were to sit there and play it.. in a video player before hand it would play fine09:13
ganymed1Lorenzod: sorry, was busy for some time... still there? yes, i am sure, i know the risk09:15
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ganymed1how can i make a shelll script that needs root privileges executable for normal users?09:18
Blissexganymed1: it is a very bad idea. But do a web search for ''setuid shell script''09:19
corey         anyone know how to change the color depth (ie to 32bit)09:20
ganymed1thx09:22
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ganymed1ciao09:32
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_pedroHi again09:33
_pedroI still am trying to configure correctly my printer hp psc 1315 all-in-one in Breezy09:34
_pedroI am going crazy...09:34
_pedroany help?09:34
epThe file '/var/log/boot.log' does not exist.  Where is the boot log or how do I get the system to create one?09:34
macd'sudo touch /var/log/boot.log'09:35
macdbut K/Ubuntu doesnt have a boot.log in /var/log09:36
macdtry looking at dmesg/lastlog09:36
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madewokherdhow do you get root access on a livecd?09:37
Blissexmadewokherd: 'sudo'09:38
madewokherdyou don't need a password?09:38
erov_pedro: so where are you at in the process?09:38
Blissexmadewokherd: usually not.09:38
_pedrook09:38
_pedroI have probed with hpijs driver09:38
_pedrobut it print very very slowly09:38
_pedroso I have removed that driver and install (with aptitude) hplip09:39
_pedrobut I cannot add my printer09:39
madewokherdhmm, can you normally install things on a livecd environment?09:42
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Blissexmadewokherd: sort of, if it is a recent Knoppix09:44
macdmadewokherd: well look at the way it works, it runs from the CD, and does not acess the harddrive.09:44
madewokherdI thought it might write changes to ram09:45
macdehhhh, not quite09:45
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macdyou could reserve a area of your harddrive for a livecd partition, then install your programs there, but you might run into dependancy problems.09:46
InfraRedhi09:46
macdif you want more programs, just install linux and be on with it09:46
madewokherdthat doesn't work well for python modules09:46
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viatori install update-manager and update-notifier but it doesnt seem to notify me i need updates09:48
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viatorand i did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade to see if there were any09:48
viatorand there are09:48
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antx!ati09:56
ubotufrom memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358909:56
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steveireAny recommendations for a p2p client?10:13
robotgeeksteveire: which network10:13
robotgeekapollon is nice, ktorrent for torrent files10:13
steveireeh, the best one I guess...10:13
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Search4Lancerapollon is the only one I've even seen...10:16
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admrlhttp://admrl.kollide.net/anti-god.gif if anyone would like an button against godhatesfags.com i made one10:19
robotgeekadmrl: please keep political messages away from this channel10:20
admrlrobotgeek: sorry just trying to get them out10:21
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HymnToLifetiens, qu'il se dmerde10:21
HymnToLifeoops10:21
HymnToLifemy X chat is so damn slow10:22
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steveireI've selected apollon in adept. The description says it needs a gift daemon to be useful, but there isn't one selected. Should I select the gift package myself?10:24
robotgeeksteveire: are you on dapper?10:24
steveireyes10:24
robotgeeksteveire: please read the documentation in Help -> Kubuntu Desktop Guide (this is covered)10:25
steveirethanks10:25
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inc|freakyhi all. im using kubuntu dapper on my laptop but it seems that even if i run cpuburn the CPU doesnt step up (switch to higher CPU frequencies) ... is there any solution? its on a Amilo M 1437G10:25
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Blissexinc|freaky: use the 'conservative' governor10:30
inc|freakyBlissex: what do u mean? sry i dont understand that because im not english ;D10:30
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rvfhsudo modprobe cpufreq_conservative10:33
rvfhThen use klaptop (the battery icon bottom right) to choose which governor you want...10:34
thevhow can I stop a sudo cat?10:35
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antxdoes anyone know a kontact related forum out there?10:45
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Ballisoncould any one help me install linux nvidia graphics drivers, on kubuntu?10:47
robotgeek!nvidia10:48
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:48
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Ballisonive tried that, i thought maybe it was for ubuntu10:49
robotgeekshould work for kubuntu too10:50
HymnToLifeBallison> Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the same thing10:50
Ballisonits asks for Synaptic Package Manager, and i have adept10:50
erovthey are based on the same core distribution though.. the desktops are only thing different10:50
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Ballisonoh ok10:50
rapcheehi all10:51
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antxyou can install synaptic with adept if you like10:52
robotgeekBallison: just do the same thing with adept, instead of synatpic10:54
rapcheecould you tell me how to change the aviable resolutions and refres rates in screen resolutions?10:55
Ballisoni was tryin that, having trouble findin 'Restricted copyright box'10:55
Ballison(sorry for asking all the time, its my first time on linux)10:55
robotgeekBallison: are you on dapper?10:56
rapcheehey im worse10:56
Ballisonbreezy badger10:56
rapcheeits not my first time but still keep asking BP10:56
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antxgo to system settings and then select display10:58
Ballisonok, im there10:58
antxI was talking to rapchee... sorry10:59
Ballisonahh, i think that was for rapchee10:59
antx;-)10:59
Ballisonhaha10:59
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antxon your problem I faild 3h ago myself, just with ati11:00
rapcheei have system/preferences/screen resolution preferences11:00
rapcheeis it the one i should be looking at?11:00
antxand there you cant set such things?11:00
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rapcheethe problem is i need higher res and refresh rate11:01
rapcheemax is 1024@60hz11:01
antxwait, you are under gnome?11:01
rapcheeyup11:01
rapcheei think11:01
carmeloI to all.11:01
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rapcheehi11:01
antxoh...11:01
antxI only know kde11:02
carmeloI'm looking for s.o. that can help me and my amilo m3438 with my microphone11:02
carmeloIt doesn't work. But for audio and other stuff it's all ok11:02
carmelothere is s.o.?11:03
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orangeyhey al!11:04
orangeywhat is skim?11:04
carmelook, Bye!11:05
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Ballisonok, im on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia , @ bullet point 1111:07
Ballisonbut im using 64bit11:07
Ballisonso none of the avalable options are there11:07
Ballisondo you recon, ...modules - common, should work?11:08
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Ballisonignore that11:11
Ballisoni did it11:11
BallisonIs X meaning my pc?11:11
Ballisonin konsole?11:12
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Ballison...i failed at getting the drivers to work11:33
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gebruikeri have installed ksmoothdock11:44
gebruikernow I want to do the following11:44
gebruikerI know i can pass a geometry11:44
gebruikeri want to put the ksmooth dock ontop of the screen all the way above11:44
gebruikeris that possible?11:44
gebruikeror the panel is also good11:46
gebruikerhello11:46
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nagihello11:49
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