[12:07] <m0nark> is the website down?
[12:09] <daleXXgribbel> i'm using an ATI video card, and 3d acceleration has been working fine for months.  yesterday i rebooted, and now the system is hanging after it finishes loading all of the startup items, and never reaches the login screen
[12:09] <daleXXgribbel> i checked top after this, and it says that Xorg is using 99.6 CPU
[12:11] <Parkotron> Something keeps setting my PCM volume at 100%, making everything sound harsh and ugly. Does anyone know what might be doing that?
[12:14] <bestial> hi
[12:15] <bestial> i have kubunut 6.06 dapper, and i have /var/log/ with 4Gb with this mesage: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[12:15] <bestial> why?
[12:16] <bestial> i have in grub noapic but nothing
[12:17] <bestial> can anyone help me?
[12:25] <slow-motion> n8
[12:26] <vinboy> how can I test my HD's performance?
[12:32] <klarkin> hdparm
 hdparm -t and or -T  (rest of manpage ommited for berevity)
[12:37] <_s3B4s_> hello
[12:37] <vinboy> thanks klarkin
[12:38] <klarkin> no problem - description was too long to paste in ;)
[12:38] <klarkin> rtfm afraid :)
[12:38] <klarkin> :/
[12:38] <_s3B4s_> somebody had any problems with the apache2 in the kubuntu dapper ??
[12:38] <klarkin> yup
[12:38] <blackflag> Hello all
[12:39] <_s3B4s_> hello
[12:39] <klarkin> hello blackfalg
[12:39] <klarkin> flag even
[12:39] <blackflag> does someone know something about over a ubuntu server version?
[12:39] <klarkin> ?
[12:40] <blackflag> I read something on kubuntu.de > dapper drake that ubuntu will give suipport for desktop version 3 year support
[12:40] <_s3B4s_> somebody had any problems with the apache2 in the kubuntu dapper ??
[12:40] <blackflag> and for the server version 5 years
[12:41] <_s3B4s_> somebody had problems with the apache2 in the kubuntu dapper ??
 some but what ?
[12:41] <klarkin> more specific darling
[12:41] <roniez> i have problems with apache2 everywhere.
[12:41] <blackflag> I never heard something about a server version
[12:41] <blackflag> Does someone know more about it?
[12:41] <roniez> cant fingure out how to set up a second "host"
[12:41] <klarkin> kubuntu server?
[12:41] <blackflag> yes
[12:41] <_s3B4s_> i cant see the apaches's default web
[12:42] <_s3B4s_> but nobady can't
[12:42] <roniez> i couldnt either...
[12:42] <klarkin> well afaik server is a base install k x etc has nothing to do with it
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> And its only supported on real server gear
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> (In the channel)
[12:45] <_s3B4s_> klarkin: i can see apache server if i put my ip adress but for exemple if you do that you can'n acces,
[12:46] <_s3B4s_> i hane no router
[12:46] <_s3B4s_> and no firewal
[12:46] <klarkin> um
[12:46] <_s3B4s_> or iptables
[12:47] <_s3B4s_> i check all, like the /etc/hosts and its ok
[12:47] <klarkin> k
[12:47] <_s3B4s_> its says 127.0.0.1 localhost
[12:48] <_s3B4s_> these only happends to me with kubuntu dapper
[12:48] <reon> does kde need gstreamer ?
[12:49] <_s3B4s_> yes
 indeed (like many other things) - bugger
[12:49] <_s3B4s_> so you say that its a bug?
[12:50] <_s3B4s_> of kubuntu?
[12:50] <klarkin> no comment :P
[12:50] <klarkin> sorry
[12:50] <_s3B4s_> thanxs any way :D
[12:50] <klarkin> sorry cannot be more help
[12:52] <roniez>  sudo apachectl start
[12:52] <roniez> /usr/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started
[12:52] <roniez> wtf.
[12:56] <corey> anyone know a good wifi manager? ive tried wifi radar and kwifimanager and neither work for me  :(
[01:01] <kozz> knetworkmanager?
[01:01] <klarkin> yes
[01:02] <Search4Lancer> Kaffeine is giving me 'signal 11', what do I do?
[01:02] <klarkin> kozz: anymore info ?
[01:02] <corey> hrm
[01:03] <kozz> klarkin: was a suggestion for corey
[01:03] <klarkin> k
[01:03] <klarkin> r3tardan01d
[01:03] <corey> thanks ill try it
[01:03] <corey> kwifimanager doesnt work at all
[01:03] <corey> and wifi radar partially works
[01:05] <GameOver69> hey guys i have amarok 1.4 beta 3..... and it finds a new device... (my ipod) but it wont let me connect to my ipod.... no media device mounted or connected?
[01:06] <corey> you know where i can get it kozz?
[01:07] <klarkin> corey: what is he problem with kwifimanager? and what card do you have ?
[01:07] <klarkin> works for me dapper release
[01:07] <corey> it wont connect to the network
[01:07] <klarkin> k
[01:07] <corey> it detects it and i click ok to select it
[01:07] <corey> it does nothing...
[01:08] <thom__> dont use kwifimanager
[01:08] <klarkin> indeed
[01:08] <thom__> its crap
[01:08] <corey> now that im connected it shows connected ap as "UKNOWN WIRELESS AP"
[01:08] <corey> im looking for networkmanager but i cant find it
[01:08] <kozz> corey: running breezy?
[01:08] <WhyM> Hi! Is there still no way to make xine work over samba shares? (ie play smb://my.great.performance.ogg in Amarok
[01:08] <corey> yea
[01:08] <corey> with kubuntu too
[01:09] <thom__> im running dapper and using network settings in CP
[01:09] <kozz> corey: ok, then you can run the gtk frontend for network-manager
[01:09] <corey> ?
[01:09] <klarkin> iwconfig is always a good bet - not pretty though
[01:09] <kozz> corey: the package network-manager
[01:10] <corey> oh thats it?
[01:10] <kozz> corey: yes, and then run nm-applet from a terminal or such
[01:10] <corey> k installing now
[01:10] <kozz> corey: it will then start automatically for each session
[01:11] <thom__> kwifimanager is a good visual tool, but there are better applets for that too
[01:12] <kozz> corey: not sure whether the network-manager daemon starts automatically after install, you might need to restart dbus or something... or simply restart the computer :)
[01:12] <corey> ooo fancy :P
[01:12] <corey> !ping
[01:12] <ubotu> pong
[01:12] <corey> hrm
[01:12] <corey> ** (nm-applet:8020): CRITICAL **: network_device_get_iface: assertion `dev != NULL' failed
[01:13] <corey> i think its working though
[01:13] <corey> yea seems to be
[01:13] <corey> thanks kozz
[01:13] <klarkin> sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop/start
[01:13] <kozz> no wpa support tho, need to wait for dapper for that :)
[01:13] <corey> wep?
[01:13] <kozz> wep is supported
[01:13] <corey> k
[01:13] <corey> i just use 2 wifis
[01:14] <corey> my house and gfs
[01:14] <corey> hers doesnt have wep and mine does
[01:14] <doctormo> corey: I have a gf, but 2 wow!
[01:14] <corey> ?
[01:14] <vursitis> hallo
[01:15] <doctormo> take what you said out of context and it sounds like your saying you have a house and girlfields ;-)
[01:15] <klarkin> wpasupplicant? breezy
[01:15] <kozz> klarkin: yeah, but thats a bit harder to configure
[01:16] <klarkin> time will tell with linux :)
[01:16] <klarkin> always the way
[01:17] <vursitis> would anyone by any chance know a good program for a destructive wipe of freespace on my hard drive.?
[01:17] <klarkin> wipe
[01:18] <vursitis> thankyou
[01:18] <klarkin> wipe is great
[01:18] <Lorenzod> vursitis: would you happen to have a blow-torch lying around? They can be quite destructive.. ;-)
[01:19] <vursitis> lol, well yeah, but i would prefer to not physicaly destroy my hard drive
[01:19] <doctormo> man I have to fix that damn kde spell checker it really anoyes me
[01:19] <thom__> i just zero the drive with the hard drive manufacuter disk
[01:19] <klarkin> especialy if you are running what we run http://asbo.squat.net/facilities/internet/index.html - keeps the police at bay ;)
[01:20] <klarkin> wipe -B
[01:20] <klarkin> as long as it jits the 3rd cycle
[01:20] <klarkin> your all good :)
[01:20] <klarkin> hits even
[01:20] <corey> why doesnt kubuntu come with a shutdown button on system menu :(
[01:21] <vursitis> now will that destroy only free space? or will that destroy everything?
[01:21] <klarkin> don't do wipe -B unless you want to kill everything for ever
[01:21] <klarkin> ;)
[01:21] <klarkin> but man wipe
[01:21] <klarkin> its a nice prog
[01:21] <arthurb> Hi, I installed digikamimageplugins, but it doesn't show up in digikam, even after I restarted it... ?
[01:22] <klarkin> ubuntu kubuntu?
[01:22] <klarkin> i had different results with both
[01:22] <vursitis> i would prefer to not destroy everything
[01:22] <klarkin> indeed
[01:22] <klarkin> then i suggest you partition your free space and wipe -B the free partition
[01:23] <corey> im trying to get a shutdown button on the system menu that gives an option of shutdown and restart..:/
[01:23] <vursitis> actualy thats not a bad idea, ill just use QTpart
[01:24] <klarkin> yep
[01:24] <vursitis> thankyou
[01:24] <klarkin> np
[01:24] <klarkin> wipe is a true killer
[01:24] <klarkin> :)
[01:25] <corey> klarkin, you know hw?
[01:26] <klarkin> +//
[01:26] <klarkin> ufffff
[01:26] <corey> ?
[01:26] <klarkin> hw as in hardware ?
[01:27] <roniez> hm.. wth my motd is read 2 times...
[01:27] <roniez> when i log on to my box.
[01:27] <roniez> how can i fix.
[01:28] <corey> lol no
[01:28] <corey> to get a 'shutdown' option on the system menu to shutdown/restart
[01:28] <corey> isntead of having to go to cmd line or logoff then shutdown
 cat /etc/motd
[01:29] <klarkin> && edit it if needed
[01:29] <roniez> yea, and its only shown once if i do that.
[01:29] <klarkin> um
[01:29] <roniez> shows once wheni cat /etc/motd
[01:29] <klarkin> starnge
[01:29] <roniez> but shows twice when i login to the box.
[01:29] <klarkin> strange even
[01:30] <klarkin> corey: looking ;)
[01:32] <arthurb> Hi, digikamimageplugins doesn't seem to be installed correcly by apt, digikam doesn't detect it
[01:33] <arthurb> is anyone running it with success ? can someone test / confirm ?
[01:34] <abraham> ola
[01:34] <abraham> ni un espaol o q
[01:34] <klarkin> sorry no
[01:34] <abraham> wo
[01:35] <klarkin> corey i assume smeg would work - i just cannot test it as it pulls loads of gnome stuff and i like to keep clear of gnome
[01:44] <ruisu> hi, does any one has seen that while playing on amarok, the output is busy and amarok skips every song till the end of the playlist?
[01:44] <_brandon> try switching the sound engine?
[01:44] <ruisu> yeah, but i tremendouisly prefer xine
[01:44] <ruisu> ...
[01:45] <ruisu> it never happened in my other distros.. why could this be happening
[01:45] <klarkin> me also but it seems to bug out with mp3s with xine
[01:46] <ruisu> mhm
[01:46] <ruisu> so
[01:46] <ruisu> gstream work fine?
[01:46] <crimsun> klarkin: are you using dapper?
[01:47] <ruisu> no breezy
[01:47] <crimsun> hmm, that should work. Does mpg321 work with mp3s?
[01:47] <ruisu> letme see
[01:47] <crimsun> (phone call)
[01:47] <klarkin> crimsun: yup
[01:48] <ruisu> hmm, i cant find mpg321
[01:48] <klarkin> apt-install on that one methinks
[01:48] <Lorenzod> I just *have* to announce this: I love digiKam!
[01:49] <klarkin> :)
[01:49] <arthurb> Lorenzod: good, can you install digikamimageplugins ?
[01:49] <ruisu> it states there is no candidate
[01:49] <arthurb> and tell me if it works ?
[01:49] <Lorenzod> arthurb: yes, they are all there..
[01:49] <crimsun> klarkin: does kaffeine play the mp3s?
[01:49] <ruisu> im using arts, though its half second late
[01:49] <Lorenzod> And they work fine.
[01:49] <arthurb> mind you, not talking about kipi
[01:50] <arthurb> but digikamimageplugins, like inpainting and the like
[01:50] <klarkin> xmms and all other yes but amarok no
[01:50] <Lorenzod> crimsun: any time I hear that player mentioned I get sad..
[01:50] <ruisu> mhm
[01:50] <ruisu> xmms works just fine
[01:50] <klarkin> indeed
[01:50] <Lorenzod> arthurb: either am I, although kipi too is installed.
[01:51] <arthurb> are you using breezy ?
[01:51] <ruisu> i am
[01:51] <Lorenzod> arthurb: no dapper
[01:52] <arthurb> hum so am I
[01:52] <arthurb> and someone reported it working
[01:52] <arthurb> but doesn't work for me
[01:52] <Lorenzod> what doesn't work, installing or using?
[01:53] <arthurb> using, they don't appear at all in digikam
[01:54] <bastardsword> xmms is sweet
[01:55] <Lorenzod> arthurb: if you run digikam from a terminal, does it spit out any errors as it is starting?
[01:55] <klarkin>  <bastardsword> that and ices2 yeah very sweet ;)
[01:55] <n3ck> hi
[01:55] <klarkin> mmornin
[01:55] <klarkin> -m
[01:56] <Lorenzod> xmms is one of those applications I love to hate..
[01:56] <n3ck> somebody can help me?
[01:56] <klarkin> guess not
[01:56] <Lorenzod> not if you leave before you've even asked your question..
[01:56] <klarkin> heheh
[01:57] <klarkin> n3ck: question  :)
[01:58] <klarkin> n3ck: what do you need helpwith
[01:58] <klarkin> ?
[01:58] <Lorenzod> does anybody else have problems with kdm/dapper with sessions closing after just a second?
 did have yes
[01:59] <klarkin> yakuake and gimp was doing that to me
[01:59] <Lorenzod> klarkin: "did" is a good word. It implies you solved it.
[01:59] <klarkin> mwa
[01:59] <n3ck> very very slow i can use it like this, i install it in another pcs and its working great, whats wrong with the compaq nx6125 laptop?
[01:59] <klarkin> not really :/
[01:59] <Lorenzod> klarkin: does that mean you're still using gdm?
[01:59] <klarkin> no i  never use gdm
[02:00] <klarkin> used to - but goit turned off
[02:00] <klarkin> :)
[02:00] <Lorenzod> hehe
 you having problems with kdm booting into sessions or prgs dying in sessions?
[02:01] <Lorenzod> the sessions terminates immediately and I'm thrown back into kdm.
[02:02] <klarkin> mp32ogg --delete *.mp3
[02:02] <klarkin> oeps sorry :/
[02:02] <Lorenzod> I found an issue relating to SecurityPolicy in /var/log/kdm.log, and I fixed that, but still no go :-(
  umm
[02:02] <klarkin> interseting
[02:02] <klarkin> n3ck wb
[02:03] <klarkin> n3ck ram cpu ? etc
[02:03] <Lorenzod> Then again, I think I may have to scrub this system. It's gone Debian->Warty->Hoary->Breezy->Dapper
[02:04] <klarkin> wow well done my man
[02:04] <klarkin> time for a windowz like re-install :P
[02:04] <klarkin> heheh
[02:04] <Lorenzod> And it would pain me to not see it go through the hell that is going to be Edgy ;-)
[02:04] <klarkin> hahahahha
[02:04] <klarkin> true say
[02:06] <klarkin> i must say before going to bed that xgl is working like a treat
[02:06] <klarkin> pure eyecandy
[02:06] <klarkin> but hell it worth it
[02:07] <Lorenzod> Savage DRI: 0.0000023 fps :-(
[02:08] <Lorenzod> Right now I really only have two outstanding issues: kdm and kaffeine
[02:08] <Lorenzod> kdm won't allow me in, and kaffeine is, ..er.. braindead!
[02:09] <Lorenzod> vlc does the job for me, but kaffeine is a "pure" kde app.
[02:09] <klarkin> forget kaffine
[02:09] <klarkin> mplayer is still ze best
[02:09] <Lorenzod> that is true.
[02:09] <klarkin> imho
[02:10] <klarkin> more than a movie player
[02:10] <Lorenzod> so many people have so much negative to say about mplayer, but heck it works!
[02:10] <klarkin> but i'm, a mencoder freak aswell so /me bias
[02:10] <klarkin> ain't vidoe editing fun on linux :P
[02:10] <klarkin> heheh
[02:10] <klarkin> command line'O'licious
[02:11] <raf> hello!!
[02:11] <klarkin> morning
[02:11] <raf> I'm new to Kubuntu
[02:12] <klarkin> then your in the right place! :)
[02:12] <klarkin> what can be helped this morning sir
[02:12] <klarkin>  /miss
[02:12] <raf> I have a HP Pavilion 8731c with Intel i810 chipset, and I have no audio and my screen resolution is only 640, no 1024
[02:12] <yanis> damn I cant join #kde :/
[02:12] <klarkin> sorry always forget the gender ambiguity :)
[02:12] <raf> is there linux drivers for i810?
[02:13] <Lorenzod> raf: yes
[02:13] <klarkin> first for the screen resolution try
[02:13] <klarkin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xoerg
[02:13] <Trae> hmm, wonder why there isn't a #kubuntu+1
[02:13] <klarkin> copy and paste that
[02:13] <Trae> heh
[02:14] <klarkin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg -- even
[02:14] <raf> ok, fire up the console and write sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg -- even?
[02:14] <klarkin> and you can play with the resolutions
[02:14] <raf> right?
[02:14] <klarkin> yeah without the -even
[02:14] <klarkin> :)
[02:14] <Lorenzod> raf: forget the - even
[02:14] <raf> oh, ok
[02:14] <klarkin> sotrry typo
[02:14] <Trae> Is there a way to make Firefox match up with your KDE theme dead on?  Or is all there is just hacks at best?
[02:14] <Trae> like, is there a qt port of firefox?
[02:15] <Trae> or is this where everyone says "USE KONQ!"
[02:15] <Lorenzod> Trae: there was some talk of kmozilla some time ago.
[02:15] <raf> debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog
[02:15] <raf> debconf: (Dialog frontend requires a screen at least 13 lines tall and 31 columns wide.)
[02:15] <raf> debconf: falling back to frontend: Readline
[02:15] <raf> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[02:15] <raf>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.200605051915
[02:15] <raf> oops, sorry
[02:15] <klarkin> i hear they are SELLING firefox these days :/
[02:15] <raf> that's the Sudo response
[02:16] <klarkin> raf - don't worry
[02:16] <klarkin> normal
[02:16] <jamie> Hello everyone.
[02:16] <Trae> i'm installing kubuntu-desktop now
[02:16] <raf> really? uuff
[02:16] <Lorenzod> Trae: I would say use konq as much as possible.
[02:16] <jamie> What is the command that updates the kde menu automatically?
[02:16] <Trae> Lorenzod, cool... is KDE stable in Dapper?
[02:16] <Lorenzod> only when a site absolutely doesn't work can you use links instead.
[02:16] <jamie> kmenuupdate? Or something like that?
[02:16] <klarkin> raf: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[02:16] <raf> ok
[02:16] <klarkin> raf: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:16] <Lorenzod> Trae: for most parts yes.
[02:16] <Trae> Lorenzod, Gnome seems fine in it...
[02:16] <klarkin> replace gdm for kdm if needed
[02:17] <Trae> just wanted to give KDE another run.
[02:17] <Lorenzod> Hm.. Gnome is horribly slow for me right now. Too bad because it was really fast for a while.
[02:17] <Lorenzod> I don't know what happened..
[02:17] <Trae> I used KDE exclusively 99-2002  and since then I've been using GNOME.  I try and switch back to KDE from time to time, without success.
[02:17] <klarkin>  <Lorenzod> top?
[02:18] <Lorenzod> klarkin: normally evolution dominates top.
[02:18] <klarkin> hey raf
[02:18] <raf> I'm here again
[02:18] <Trae> What's one of the best looking themes you guys know of for KDE
[02:18] <Lorenzod> But then again, epiphany has been doing a good job of eating core as well of late..
[02:18] <raf> that command throws me out
[02:19] <klarkin> indeed
[02:19] <klarkin> it restarts x
[02:19] <Trae> and by looking I don't necessarily mean flash and fluff... I'm talking clean and usuable too.
[02:19] <Lorenzod> But who cares, I prefer kde.
[02:19] <raf> yes, hehehe
[02:19] <klarkin>  <Lorenzod> i never use such progs - ssh mail account and pine ;)
[02:19] <klarkin> kiss
[02:20] <Lorenzod> uuuh, pine. I prefer mutt.
[02:20] <Trae> ok... bbiab, need to restart X
[02:20] <klarkin> keep it simple stupid - to quote me dad :P
[02:20] <Trae> :)
[02:20] <Lorenzod> But don't you know evil-ution is taking over gnome?
[02:20] <raf> klarkin -> well, I've restarted X, now what I need to do?
[02:21] <Lorenzod> The evo module switcher is the new gnome-panel.
[02:21] <Lorenzod> ;-)
[02:22] <klarkin> well before when you did the  (sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg) command you had the otion to choose different resloutons
[02:22] <klarkin> ?
[02:22] <raf> no
[02:22] <klarkin> um
[02:22] <jamie> What's the command that kde has to automatically update the menu?
[02:22] <Lorenzod> Damn, there are 2.4 million mosquitoes in this room. If I don't wake up with malaria it'll be a miracle.
[02:22] <klarkin> killall kicker
[02:22] <klarkin> ;)
 lol
[02:23] <raf> when I execute sudo ... it responds with xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[02:24] <Lorenzod> raf: nothing to worry about really
[02:24] <Lorenzod> just a little bit of dpkg poetry to keep you happy.
[02:24] <raf> :O
[02:24] <klarkin> raf join #barf and we talk clearer if you need
[02:24] <raf> ok, thanks
[02:24] <klarkin> ;)
[02:25] <Lorenzod> thank goodness that wasn't #barf-bag
[02:26] <jamie> Nevermind I found it
[02:26] <klarkin> barf is the answer to all
[02:26] <jamie> kappfinder.
[02:26] <jamie> w00t
[02:26] <Trae> hmm
[02:30] <Trae> Is there some way to make GTK apps look less crappy in KDE?
[02:31] <crimsun> Trae: as in "consistent look n' feel"?
[02:31] <Trae> crimsun: heyaz buddy
[02:31] <Trae> yeah
[02:32] <Trae> crimsun: you are everywhere.
[02:32] <Trae> :)
[02:32] <crimsun> Trae: should be automagic if you installed kubuntu-desktop
[02:32] <Trae> crimsun: I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:32] <Trae> :/
[02:32] <crimsun> Trae: did you adjust the settings for Gtk apps in System Settings?
[02:33] <Trae> crimsun: guess not, I'll dig.
[02:33] <crimsun> (not running kde at the moment, so I can't pull up the precise menu)
[02:40] <nrdb> Hi, I would like to know where I can get the libgnomeprintui source?
[02:41] <Trae> hmm
[02:43] <Trae> man, there are some little things that make KDE just sweet
[02:43] <Trae> Where are the applets?
[02:43] <Trae> like... A wireless network monitor
[02:43] <Trae> or something.
[02:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'sudo apt-get install kicker-applets'
[02:44] <Trae> CheeseBurgerMan: okies
[02:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> and then you can right click on your panel, and select 'add applet' :)
[02:44] <klarkin> and again
[02:45] <Trae> ooooh, color picker thingy
[02:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[02:45] <Trae> heh, can you tell I do graphics / web design?
[02:45] <Trae> ;)
[02:46] <Trae> hmm
[02:46] <Kadran> hi, how to make the dedian pakages from source for kubuntu?
[02:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, I can see how that would be useful. I just use KColorChooser the rare times I need one.
[02:46] <Trae> icky poo...
[02:46] <Trae> this wireless network applet is pathetic looking :(
[02:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, it is.
[02:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> Kadran: checkinstall
[02:47] <crimsun> Kadran: follow the Packaging Guide on doc.ubuntu.com (lower right)
[02:47] <Trae> CheeseBurgerMan: and I'm being nice and holding back my true feelings
[02:47] <Trae> CheeseBurgerMan: ;)
[02:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> heh, I know it. It really sucks.
[02:47] <Kadran> thanks
[02:47] <Trae> Link Quality 10%
[02:47] <Trae> heh
[02:47] <Trae> that does seem good
[02:48] <Trae> Signal Strenght: 67%
[02:48] <Trae> Noise Level 63:%
[02:48] <Trae> :/
[02:48] <klarkin> florecent lights ?
[02:48] <klarkin> may sound strange but its true
[02:49] <Trae> klarkin: oh, me?
[02:49] <Trae> klarkin: I have some in my room, but they aren't turned on.
[02:50] <Trae> klarkin: I have an LCD
[02:53] <klarkin> strangest thing we satup some friefunk nodes and the link quality was effected by the lighting :P
[02:53] <klarkin> setup even#
[02:53] <BlueLaguna> do most debian packages work with Kubuntu?
[02:55] <nagi> BlueLaguna, they should
[02:56] <nagi> BlueLaguna, but vice versa is not recommended.
[02:56] <Trae> heh
[02:56] <Trae> man
[02:57] <Trae> It's quite immediate the advantages of KDE over gnome
[02:57] <Trae> as far as just "things looking pretty"
[02:57] <Trae> There are so many nifty little things, and then you turn a corner and see other kRap here and there. heh
[03:01] <Trae> Doesn't KDE have a place where you can set your desktop grid size?
[03:01] <Trae> I thought that was an option some place
[03:02] <Snake[ONAIR] > Hey guys, if your into alternative rock/metal please tune in! Imagi-Nation! http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net/playradio.m3u (That's a direct link). Join the discussion at #imagi
[03:03] <klarkin> is there a channel for shameless advetising?
[03:03] <klarkin> if so can i join :P
[03:03] <Trae> klarkin: #shameless_ads
[03:03] <Snake[ONAIR] > Nope, but im a regular around here, im entitled to 1 ad a week :)
[03:04] <klarkin> heheh
[03:04] <klarkin> too shay
[03:04] <klarkin> ;)
[03:07] <Trae> Does anyone know about the desktop icons grid?
[03:07] <Trae> hmm
[03:07] <Trae> maybe that's a konq preference
[03:10] <Trae> yeah
[03:10] <Trae> that's where it was I think.
[03:10] <Trae> heh
[03:25] <Lorenzod> Hah! I'm using digiKam to organize my entire Tolkien collection.
[03:25] <Lorenzod> Albums for each artist, tags for places, characters, races etc.
[03:26] <Lorenzod> Just like Rolozo Tolkien, but without the damn web browser.
[03:33] <rtg> I'm installing from the beta2 CD right now...
[03:34] <thev> Anyone know why my system sounds would be working, but Amarok will not play back music?
[03:35] <rtg> glitch #1 - the desktop CD didn't detect my SCSI card, or any fo the devices behind it.  Breezy did...
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> You probably need to install the xine engine, thev.
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'sudo apt-get install amarok-xine'
[03:35] <thev> that's what it was using
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh
[03:36] <thev> yeah it's installed, i just double checked
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Are you actually using it though? :)
[03:36] <rtg> Glitch #2 - at step 7, the cursor shows the rotating ball, which I take to mean 'wait', but nothing happens until I click 'next' anyway...
[03:37] <thev> Amarok thinks it is
[03:37] <thev> but it just skips through the list
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm, not sure.
[03:38] <klarkin> amarok and dapper and engines suck at the moment - i have the same issue
[03:38] <klarkin> i made everything .ogg and it works
[03:38] <noiesmo> thev, you need to sudo apt-get install libmad0 libxine1c2
[03:38] <klarkin> despite following the howto's for mp3 playability etc
[03:38] <noiesmo> thev, http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10
[03:39] <Trae> anyone use konversation?
[03:39] <Trae> need to know how to get rid of the server tab
[03:39] <klarkin> right now i am
[03:39] <noiesmo> thev, also get libxine-extracodecs
 settings> configure konversation> behaviour> general > show swerver list dialog{uncheck it}
[03:41] <klarkin> oeps too late
[03:42] <Trae> heh
 settings> configure konversation> behaviour> general > show swerver list dialog{uncheck it}
[03:43] <Trae> ahhh ok
[03:43] <Trae> ;)
[03:43] <Trae> hehe
[03:43] <klarkin> heheh
[03:43] <Trae> which, doesn't look too bad actuaaly
[03:43] <klarkin> irssi is my fav
[03:43] <Trae> the OSX irssi looks sexy
[03:43] <Trae> don't know if you've seen that or not
[03:43] <klarkin> i certainly have
[03:44] <klarkin> i know some yuppies :p
[03:44] <klarkin> hehhe
[03:44] <Trae> it's sorta old school console action mixed in with aqua goodness
[03:44] <klarkin> old school console?
[03:44] <klarkin> :P
[03:44] <thev> thanks noiesmo
[03:44] <klarkin> down with gui :P
[03:45] <Trae> heh
[03:45] <Trae> gui++
[03:45] <klarkin> ok /bed calls
[03:45] <klarkin> was a nice first day here
[03:45] <Trae> klarkin, night
[03:45] <klarkin> thanks all
[03:45] <noiesmo> thev, np
[03:45] <klarkin> cheers
[03:46] <klarkin> night
[03:49] <thev> I don't remember Amarok being so difficult when I tried linux a while back... did something change?
[03:50] <Lorenzod> thev: what seems to be the problem. I'm enjoying amaroK atm.
[03:50] <thev> Lorenzod - just trying to get it to play
[03:50] <Lorenzod> Hm.. which engine are you using?
[03:51] <thev> xine, arts, doesn't matter
[03:51] <yanis> how can I check what version of qt I use?
[03:52] <Lorenzod> thev: I had a few problems for a while as well.
[03:52] <nagi> isnt there an about box??
[03:52] <thev> lorenzod - do you use it with an ipod?
[03:52] <Lorenzod> In my case it was my self-compiled TagLib which was causing the mess.
[03:52] <Lorenzod> thev: not normally. But I have tried and can confirm that it should work.
[03:53] <Lorenzod> Of course, that was a while back..
[03:53] <pradeepto> yanis: kde-config --version
[03:53] <thev> I had issues awhile back with my ipods library file getting corrupted
[03:53] <nagi> bye.
[03:54] <thev> it didn't see any of the songs on there, despite them still being there
[04:04] <corey> is the person who i was talking about knetworkmanager here? :o
[04:05] <Trae> how can I switch to 12 hr time instead of 24 hour time in the clock thingy on the panel?
[04:07] <Parkotron> Trae: Right click on it, Date & Time Format, Times & Dates
[04:08] <Trae> ahhh
[04:08] <Trae> guess I need to log out and log back in
[04:08] <Trae> heh
[04:09] <Trae> is there a way I can kill kpanel?
[04:09] <Trae> and have it restart?
[04:09] <Parkotron> Trae: That's a system wide setting, so it'll change the format everywhere.
[04:09] <Parkotron> There's a DCOP call, but I don't recall it at the moment.
[04:09] <Trae> k
[04:09] <Trae> I can log out
[04:09] <Trae> heh
[04:09] <Parkotron> I don't think you should have to restart it.
[04:09] <Trae> back in a bit.
[04:09] <Trae> :)
[04:09] <Hobbsee> Trae: killall kicker
[04:09] <Trae> oh
[04:10] <Trae> heh
[04:10] <Hobbsee> then kicker
[04:10] <Trae> Hobbsee, w00p!
[04:10] <Trae> who needs a flippin' restart!
[04:10] <Trae> ;)
[04:20] <Hobbsee> Trae: when networkmanager is acting up, and refuses to start :P  - oh, and for kernel upgrades
[04:20] <Trae> heh
[04:30] <Trae> man
[04:30] <Trae> all of my GTK apps just lock up on me from time to time.
[04:30] <Trae> under KDE that is...
[04:30] <Trae> they never did it under gnome...
[04:30] <Trae> hmmm
[04:31] <Trae> back in a bit...
[04:31] <rtg_> Where do I post problems with the new Dapper beta?
[04:31] <robotgeek> rtg_: on launchpad
[04:31] <robotgeek> !bug
[04:31] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[04:32] <rtg_> thanks!
[04:34] <Trae> had to restart XChat in order for it to see the theme changes.
[04:34] <Trae> :/
[04:37] <Trae> deKorator  <-- what the heck is this?
[04:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's anotehr kiwin theming engine.
[04:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> another*
[04:37] <Trae> is it good?
[04:38] <Trae> it sounds non-native
[04:38] <Trae> heh
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's fine, really just depends on whether you like a dekorator or native kwin theme better.
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> Works fine, as much as I tried it.
[04:38] <Trae> course, as I sit here talking about non-native in XChat
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[04:38] <robotgeek> heh
[04:39] <Trae> I've apt-get installed
[04:39] <Trae> it
[04:39] <Trae> but where does it put it?
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Same as any other kwin themes.
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's called "Dekorator"
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> If you couldn't guess. ;)
[04:43] <rtg_> Found it.  Bug #24533.  SMP kernels hang as X is starting...
[04:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 24533 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Fail to boot smp kernel" [Normal,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/24533
[04:44] <robotgeek> rtg_: go aheadm add your information, subscribe to the bug and confirm it :)
[04:46] <Trae> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=35637
[04:46] <Trae> hah
[04:46] <Trae> interesting idea
[04:46] <rtg_> trouble is, I just installed this system, I haven't yet configured email, so I can't complete the launchpad registration quite yet...
[04:46] <Trae> though the guys kinda on crack
[04:46] <Trae> ;)
[04:53] <kkathman> yo Snake__ :)
[04:53] <Snake__> heyy kkathman s back!
[04:54] <kkathman> yup :)
[04:55] <Trae> hmm
[04:55] <Trae> silly server tab won't go away in Konversation
[04:57] <tjb891_>  if i install kubuntu, can i reload the windows mbr latter if I cahnge my mind
[04:57] <Trae> tjb891_: hmmm
[04:58] <Trae> depends, you might be able to just do fdisk /mbr on a win98 boot floppy
[04:58] <Trae> tjb891_: as LONG as windows is on hda1
[04:58] <tjb891_> its on hd1
[04:58] <tjb891_> but i have xp
[04:58] <Trae> tjb891_: as always, when playing around with things, youneed to do a backup
[04:58] <Trae> tjb891_: be careful with your data....
[04:58] <tjb891_> and i don't have the install cd (no recovery console acess)
[04:59] <tjb891_> SUSE somehow backs it up but I like Kubuntu better than SUSE
[04:59] <Trae> tjb891_: you really should be careful doing that if Windows is critical for you and like your work or business.
[04:59] <Trae> tjb891_: use the Live cd to test kubuntu or ubuntu or any other distro out.
[04:59] <Trae> tjb891_: but, you SHOULD be able to do what you want.
[04:59] <Trae> tjb891_: ;)
[05:00] <Trae> tjb891_: sorry, I'm not much help right now. :(
[05:00] <tjb891_> i do,  do you know were i could get a boot disk of freedos, it had a fdsik/mbr command
[05:00] <Trae> hmmm
[05:00] <tjb891_> i couldn't find one on sourceforge
[05:00] <Trae> tjb891_: google for something like hiram hirem's boot disk
[05:00] <tjb891_> ok
[05:00] <Trae> tjb891_: I think it has freedos and some other nifty tools on there
[05:00] <Trae> it's an iso youcan burn
[05:01] <tjb891_> awsome
[05:01] <Trae> nod
[05:01] <Trae> I don't use windows, but a friend of mine told me about it.
[05:01] <Trae> Seemed handy to know
[05:01] <Trae> if I ever did have to use it ;)
[05:01] <tjb891_> i use it for games only
[05:01] <Trae> tjb891_: it's ok man, everything to a purpose.
[05:01] <Trae> I personally think all computers suck.
[05:01] <Trae> heh
[05:02] <Trae> LInux just sucks less for me.
[05:02] <Trae> do what you gotta do as long as it allows you to do what you want.
[05:02] <Trae> If windows works for you, then rock on.
[05:02] <Trae> If OS X is your thing, then cool.
[05:02] <Trae> And, if Linux floats your boat.  :)
[05:02] <Trae> then welcome aboard matey
[05:02] <Trae> heh
[05:02] <tjb891_> they have to get that installation easier befroe VISTA and its DRM comes out , and windows in incapible of working
[05:03] <Trae> tjb891_: haven't used Vista or any of its beta's
[05:03] <tjb891_> i know its DRM is ridiculous
[05:03] <Trae> heh
[05:34] <EricL> Can someone point me to a howto on installing KUbuntu (not Debian) on a Xen vm?
[05:42] <EricL> Ok, then can someone give me a KUbuntu source (that would go in /etc/sources.lst) of the latest version of KUbuntu so I can try to debootstrap an install?
[05:43] <EricL>  /etc/apt/sources.lst I meant.
[05:49] <EricL> Oh well, I guess I'll be install breezy instead of Dapper.
[05:57] <rtg_> trae_> you can turn off the server tab in settings>configure Konversation> Behavior>general
[05:57] <Trae> rtg_: :?
[05:57] <Trae> errr
[05:57] <Trae> :/
[05:57] <Trae> doesn't seem to work
[05:57] <Trae> I'm in #konversation
[05:57] <Trae> and they say that feature I want is only in svn
[05:57] <Trae> :)
[05:57] <Trae> actualy
[05:58] <Trae> it's not in svn, that's another feature
[05:58] <Trae> they say it's the most asked for feature, ever, and it's not in.
[05:58] <_root> i need help to install firefox 1.5.0.3
[05:59] <rtg_> I haven't tried it, I just remember an answer that was given here an hour or two ago...
[05:59] <Hobbsee> which feature is this?
[05:59] <Hobbsee> !tell _root about firefox1.5
[05:59] <Trae> Hobbsee: turn off Server tab in konversation
[05:59] <Hobbsee> ooh, yes please!
[06:00] <Trae> one of the developers there in #konversation told me it's the most requested feature.
[06:00] <Trae> heh
[06:00] <Trae> he's trying it
[06:00] <Hobbsee> oh darn, release is supposed to be in a month...
[06:00] <Trae> he's going to realize it was in vain
[06:00] <Hobbsee> was wondering if we could just patch that bit in or something :P
[06:00] <Trae> Hobbsee: nod
[06:00] <Trae> Hobbsee: #konversation
[06:02] <rtg_> trae: You're right - that config option turns off the initial server dialog box, not the server tab.
[06:04] <ruisu> hello
[06:04] <ruisu> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[06:04] <ruisu> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[06:04] <ruisu> and i have qt3 installed
[06:04] <ruisu> >.>?
[06:06] <pradeepto> ruisu: which version of Qt is installed?
[06:06] <ruisu> um
[06:06] <ruisu> 3
[06:07] <pradeepto> ruisu: do you have the qt-development headers installed?
[06:07] <ruisu> and the threads
[06:07] <pradeepto> or just the libs?
[06:08] <Jejem> hi guys
[06:08] <ruisu> qt3-dev-tools
[06:08] <ruisu> qt3-apps-dev
[06:08] <Trae> rtg_: ;)
[06:09] <ruisu> hi
[06:09] <ruisu> libs:qt-compat-headers
[06:09] <ruisu> libqt3-headers
[06:09] <pradeepto> libqt3-headers
[06:09] <ruisu> libqt-mt(+devs)
[06:09] <pradeepto> ruisu:  yes is libqt3-headers installed on your box?
[06:10] <pradeepto> Jejem: hi
[06:10] <ruisu> yes
[06:10] <Jejem> is it possible to "save user settings" with kubuntu livecd ? :D
[06:10] <ruisu> reinstall?
[06:10] <ruisu> nop, jeje
[06:10] <Jejem> mm
[06:11] <Jejem> m'okay
[06:11] <pradeepto> ruisu: libqt3-mt-dev
[06:11] <ruisu> mhm
[06:11] <ruisu> that too
[06:11] <pradeepto> do you have that?
[06:11] <ruisu> yes
[06:12] <ruisu> libqt-mt-dev
[06:12] <ruisu> libqt3*
[06:12] <pradeepto> what does the config.log say?
[06:13] <ruisu> cc1plus: warning: command line option "-Wbad-function-cast" is valid for C/ObjC but not for C++
[06:13] <ruisu> cc1plus: warning: command line option "-Wmissing-prototypes" is valid for Ada/C/ObjC but not for C++
[06:13] <ruisu> conftest.C:2:21: error: qglobal.h: No such file or directory
[06:13] <ruisu> conftest.C:3:26: error: qapplication.h: No such file or directory
[06:13] <ruisu> conftest.C:4:20: error: qevent.h: No such file or directory
[06:13] <ruisu> conftest.C:5:21: error: qstring.h: No such file or directory
[06:13] <ruisu> conftest.C:6:20: error: qstyle.h: No such file or directory
[06:13] <ruisu> conftest.C:7:23: error: qiconview.h: No such file or directory
[06:13] <ruisu> conftest.C:8:8: warning: "QT_VERSION" is not defined
[06:13] <Jejem> lol
[06:14] <ruisu> mhm
[06:14] <Jejem> so i can't save my configs... mmm
[06:14] <Jejem> *poor guy*
[06:15] <ruisu> hehe
[06:15] <ruisu> so
[06:15] <ruisu> Elvis is alive is he code for wrong?
[06:15] <ruisu> or dead?
[06:16] <pradeepto> ruisu: next time use pastebin
[06:17] <pradeepto> ;)
[06:17] <ruisu> ?
[06:17] <ruisu> pastebin??
[06:17] <ruisu> whats that?
[06:17] <pradeepto> !pastebin
[06:17] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:17] <ruisu> ooooooooook
[06:17] <ruisu> :O
[06:18] <ruisu> ok
[06:18] <ruisu> thx
[06:18] <ruisu> so] 
[06:19] <ruisu> whats my problem doctor?
[06:22] <Hobbsee> hi kkathman!
[06:22] <kkathman> howdy there Hobbsee :)
[06:22] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:22] <kkathman> wassup wit my favorite aussie gal?
[06:26] <ruisu> ok, im going to uninstall qt and devs and reinstalling them
[06:27] <ruisu> hola lurkan
[06:28] <ruisu> :P
[06:28] <Lurkan> Hola, Hi
[06:28] <ruisu> where are you from?
[06:29] <Lurkan> Mxico
[06:29] <ruisu> gosh, its removing al kde apps :O
[06:29] <Lurkan> you
[06:29] <ruisu> me too
[06:29] <Lurkan> jajaj
[06:29] <ruisu> im from Baja
[06:29] <Lurkan> DF me
[06:29] <ruisu> :o
[06:31] <GullyFoyle> yikes my sound doesnt work any more
[06:31] <GullyFoyle> how do i restart it?
[06:31] <ruisu> system sound>?
[06:31] <ruisu> of multimedia plaer sonud?>
[06:31] <ruisu> or*
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> GullyFoyle: go into sound settings and uncheck enable sound system, recheck it and hit apply.
[06:32] <GullyFoyle> i'm looking for cmd line
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> GullyFoyle: artsd
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> GullyFoyle: there's more cmdline options but that should be enough to just run artsd
[06:33] <ruisu> omg, my sistem got fck up!
[06:33] <ruisu> how do i damn
[06:33] <pradeepto> ruisu: :(
[06:33] <ruisu> i think i removed the packager....
[06:33] <ruisu> this is fatal
[06:33] <pradeepto> ruisu: w0ah!!!
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> ruisu: dpkg ?
[06:34] <ruisu> meh, im going to reinstall
[06:34] <ruisu> mhm
[06:34] <pradeepto> ruisu: good time to take backup, I say
[06:34] <ruisu> hehehe
[06:34] <ruisu> *what backup* :P
[06:34] <ruisu> i have no longer konsole :(
[06:35] <ruisu> what is the name of the other console?
[06:35] <LeeJunFan> ruisu: now how the heck did you manage that?
[06:35] <ruisu> xrfv?
[06:35] <LeeJunFan> rxvt
[06:35] <ruisu> i uninstalled qt
[06:35] <ruisu> OMG
[06:35] <ruisu> i have no rxvt!!
[06:35] <LeeJunFan> ruisu: doh. you need to get to shell and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <ruisu> hmm
[06:36] <GullyFoyle> i keep getting error device or resource busy, i can't get no sound
[06:36] <pradeepto> ruisu: Ctrl + Alt + F1
[06:37] <LeeJunFan> GullyFoyle: something is using /dev/dsp, perhaps you have an artsd running already that is just defunct, try killall -9 artsd
[06:37] <LeeJunFan> then try starting artsd again.
[06:37] <pradeepto> ruisu: ?
[06:37] <pradeepto> I hope he knows Ctrl + Alt + F7 :0
[06:38] <LeeJunFan> lol
[06:38] <GullyFoyle> hrm still no sound
[06:38] <LeeJunFan> confidence is low considering he removed qt.
[06:38] <pradeepto> yup
[06:39] <pradeepto> laters folks
[06:40] <pradeepto> LeeJunFan: if he comes back, give him my regards
[06:40] <LeeJunFan> pradeepto: right :) gnight
[06:41] <pradeepto> LeeJunFan: its morning out here :)
[06:41] <pradeepto> thanks though :)
[06:42] <LeeJunFan> oops
[06:43] <pradeepto> LeeJunFan: I tell ya he rebooted after C+A + F1
[06:43] <Trae> anyone know how to turn off the arrows that show up on the Kmenu on the panel?
[06:44] <Hobbsee> Trae: right click, configure panel
[06:44] <Hobbsee> think it's on one of the advanced options...
[06:44] <Trae> hmmm
[06:45] <Hobbsee> found it?
[06:45] <Trae> naw
[06:45] <Hobbsee> it's around there somewhere
[06:45] <Trae> not sure it's possible
[06:45] <Trae> well
[06:45] <Hobbsee> oh it is...
[06:45] <Trae> I've dug through those... :/
[06:45] <Hobbsee> no, wait...
[06:45] <Trae> heh
[06:45] <Trae> just sorta annoying seeing the triangle
[06:46] <Hobbsee> on the top left corner of the kmenu?
[06:46] <Trae> I mean, I know there is a menu there
[06:46] <Hobbsee> in the kicker?
[06:46] <Trae> nod
[06:46] <Hobbsee> not sure if htat goes away if you replace it with a different image
[06:46] <Trae> not that big of a deal...
[06:46] <Trae> not yet.
[06:46] <Trae> ;)
[06:48] <Trae> Hobbsee: in case I miss you, thanks for all your help too
[06:48] <Trae> I'll try and hang here... I'm a #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 regular
[06:48] <Hobbsee> Trae: not a problem.  i'm sure i'll be around :P
[06:48] <Trae> but since I have giant tabs now...
[06:48] <Trae> heh
[06:48] <Trae> I'll have to pick and choose where I am
[06:48] <Trae> wow
[06:49] <Trae> other neat channels I'd love to be a part of
[06:49] <Trae> :P~
[06:49] <Trae> ;)
[06:49] <Hobbsee> oh yes, and #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:58] <argentinian> hi people
[07:00] <ruisu> woot
[07:00] <ruisu> thank you all
[07:00] <ruisu> :)
[07:00] <ruisu> im reinstalling every package again :P
[07:00] <ruisu> hey, do you know kexy is broken in brezy?
[07:12] <argentinian> I installed Dapper in amd64, but it isnt workin fine, the saa7134 craches the system, ATI seems to make some lines in blender3d, can anyone help me?
[07:14] <argentinian> there are certain bugs btu nothing to worry about (yet)
[07:20] <MagicFab> !ops
[07:20] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[07:20] <Hobbsee> MagicFab: what?
[07:20] <MagicFab> Hobbsee: cursing, CoC abuse un #xubuntu
[07:20] <MagicFab> sorry to bother you
[07:21] <MagicFab> 2 warnings already , user is odat
[07:21] <MagicFab> Hobbsee: don' t know much what to do with +o
[07:21] <MagicFab> can u come ?
[07:21] <Hobbsee> MagicFab: /msg chanserv access #xubuntu list
[07:21] <Hobbsee> i'm there - but i have no ops there
[07:22] <Hobbsee> ping crim*sun about it....
[07:22] <crimsun> sec
[07:22] <MagicFab> tx
[07:24] <MagicFab> (01:16:48) odat: how the hell do you do vnc in this friggin thing
[07:25] <MagicFab> (01:00:05) odat: i suggest you get a friggin book and start reading before you give advice
[07:25] <MagicFab> it' s calmed down now - ah well. sorry for the annoyance
[07:26] <_jerome> q. i passed a ubuntu 5.10 into a kubuntu by apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but now my menus got both version of each stuff, gnome and kde, how can i remove the gnome stuff?
[07:30] <jerome_> hmm ok a saturday morning may not be rush hour on ubuntu help :)
[07:31] <cfraz89> did you want to remove gnome?
[07:31] <cfraz89> or just the menu entries?
[07:31] <jerome_> well the menu entries are the trouble for now
[07:32] <jerome_> but if i can i would remove gnome
[07:32] <cfraz89> oh ok
[07:32] <cfraz89> well to remove the menu shortcuts
[07:32] <cfraz89> right click on the menu
[07:32] <jerome_> in fact i would like to have a like a fresh kubuntu install
[07:32] <cfraz89> click on menu editor
[07:32] <cfraz89> it might hel
[07:32] <jerome_> oik
[07:33] <jerome_> ah ok you suggest i remove them all one by one ?
[07:33] <cfraz89> you could
[07:33] <jerome_> that a solution that would work
[07:33] <cfraz89> it might be easier to remove gnome
[07:33] <cfraz89> maybe apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[07:33] <jerome_> if i knew which package is in kubuntu normally :)
[07:34] <jerome_> i already did this one before install kubuntu-desktop
[07:34] <jerome_> i think i willl simply burn kubuntu cd and reinstall :)
[07:34] <cfraz89> ok
[07:48] <zorgluuu> q. is there a guiutility to mount disk ?
[07:50] <cfraz89> zorgluuu: kde handles disk mounting itself usually
[07:51] <poningru> zorgluuu: why do you need a guiutility?
[07:51] <poningru> I dont understand
[07:52] <cfraz89> well it has media:?
[07:52] <cfraz89> i mean media:?/
[07:52] <cfraz89> grr
[07:52] <cfraz89> media:/
[07:52] <cfraz89> yeah
[07:52] <cfraz89> you can right click to mount and umount
[07:54] <zorgluuu> cfraz89, it doesnt show the unmounted disk
[07:54] <cfraz89> it should
[07:54] <cfraz89> whta disk is it?
[07:54] <zorgluuu> in fact it is more partition
[07:54] <cfraz89> ok
[07:54] <cfraz89> is it in your /etc/fstab?
[07:54] <zorgluuu> in short i got another distribution in other partition and would like to mount them
[07:55] <zorgluuu> let me check
[07:55] <cfraz89> ok
[07:55] <zorgluuu> nope, it isnt in fstab
[07:55] <cfraz89> i think that might be why
[07:55] <zorgluuu> fstab shows only the ubuntu partition
[07:55] <zorgluuu> s
[07:56] <cfraz89> do you know the syntax to add it?
[07:56] <zorgluuu> yep, if i knew the partition name of my other distribution :)
[07:56] <zorgluuu> but ok i will play with fdisk
[07:56] <cfraz89> lol check the kde partition tool
[07:57] <zorgluuu> what is the name of this tool ?
[07:57] <cfraz89> do you know about the disks and filesystems tool in systemsettings?
[07:57] <poningru> zorgluuu: dude just go mount -t fstype /dev/partitionname /where/you/want/to/mount/it
[07:57] <cfraz89> its on the bottom row
[07:58] <zorgluuu> trying kde partition tool
[07:58] <zorgluuu> poningru, yep but i try to learn ubuntu :)
[07:59] <poningru> ah gotcha
[07:59] <poningru> you using kubuntu?
[07:59] <jeff_> hey guys
[07:59] <poningru> yo
[07:59] <cfraz89> damn i just put my shirt on backwards
[08:00] <jeff_> anybody know how to get xmame on dapper?
[08:00] <jeff_> lol
[08:00] <zorgluuu> poningru, yep, well a ubuntu 5.10 updated with kubuntu-desktop
[08:00] <poningru> ah gotcha
[08:00] <poningru> doh thats why
[08:00] <poningru> sorry I thought I was in ##linux
[08:00] <jeff_> lol
[08:01] <cfraz89> jeff: apt-get install xmame-gl
[08:01] <cfraz89> i think
[08:01] <cfraz89> or sdl
[08:01] <cfraz89> theres also kxmame
[08:01] <cfraz89> thats just looking through adept
[08:01] <jeff_> are you using dapper?
[08:01] <cfraz89> yep
[08:01] <jeff_> awesome
[08:01] <jeff_> ill check
[08:01] <cfraz89> its in multiverse
[08:03] <jeff_> hmm
[08:03] <jeff_> im pretty sure i have multiverse enabled, but its not coming up
[08:03] <cfraz89> ?
[08:04] <cfraz89> hmmm
[08:04] <jeff_> ill check that i do
[08:04] <cfraz89> yep
[08:05] <jeff_> cfraz89: could you pastebin your sources.list so i can compare the two?
[08:05] <corey> anyone know how to get a 'shutdown/restart' button on system menu?
[08:05] <cfraz89> ok
[08:06] <jeff_> thanks
[08:07] <cfraz89> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/701312
[08:07] <cfraz89> gtg
[08:07] <cfraz89> hope it works out
[08:20] <zorgluuu> q. is there a tool to edit the grub config ?
[08:23] <zorgluuu> ok i used old school vi  :)
[08:25] <corey> noone knows how to get a shutdown/restart button on the system menu? :o
[08:34] <Hobbsee> corey: nope, there's already one on the kmenu though
[08:35] <Hobbsee> corey: unless you can put shortcuts into system:/ somehow, thru konq
[08:35] <corey> where?
[08:36] <Hobbsee> in konq, type "system:/" and hit enter
[08:38] <corey> i meant in kmenu
[08:38] <corey> under system?
[08:48] <zorgluuu> q. is there a way to tell kde to save the position of my windows when i close them ? e.g. konqueror always open unmaximize, and i would like it to
[08:51] <Lynoure> When your session saves, that happens automatically, other than that I don't know
[08:52] <zorgluuu> ok and when my session is supposed to be saved ? when i log off ?
[08:54] <Lynoure> yes, I think by default
[08:56] <Lynoure> hmm, in settings -> desktop there is Window specific settings which might be useful to you
[08:56] <zorgluuu> ok thanks
[08:56] <zorgluuu> another question what is the default test editor for kde ? like gedit for gnome
[08:57] <zorgluuu> i just switched to new computer, new distribution and new desktop system
[08:57] <Lynoure> I think kate is default, or at least is in dapper, I haven't used breezy...
[08:57] <Lynoure> :) me too
[08:57] <zorgluuu> so i have a lot of lame question :)
[08:57] <Lynoure> From desktop debian unstable with gnome to laptop kubuntu kde :)
[08:58] <zorgluuu> hehe
[08:58] <zorgluuu> my new laptop got a different keyboard
[08:58] <zorgluuu> this is real painfull :)
[08:58] <Lynoure> so different you cannot set it to be the same?
[08:59] <zorgluuu> yep the keys size are different
[08:59] <zorgluuu> especially the left shift which cause me a lot of trouble
[08:59] <zorgluuu> it is a cheap acer
[09:00] <zorgluuu> but i do love the ubuntu repository and their real fat pipe
[09:00] <zorgluuu> it make the system update so fast :)
[09:00] <Lynoure> This is a lovely HP :)
[09:01] <zorgluuu> :)
[09:03] <Hobbsee> zorgluuu: kate is the default in breezy as well
[09:03] <_patrick> Thanks for eveyone's help last night with Kubuntu. The Adept package manager worked well. Still have some install problems. As some debian files won't install, but I'm trying to get them to work in terminal.
[09:04] <Lynoure> Which debian files and what errors do you get about them?
[09:06] <zorgluuu> Hobbsee, ok thanks
[09:07] <_patrick> One program is a bible program called esword, and the other 3dboggle.
[09:07] <_patrick> Plus, I'm trying to find the spellchecker for abiword.
[09:10] <_patrick> Exact file names are sword-1.5.8 and kboggle-0.4.1. Can't get either to install.
[09:10] <Lynoure> What's the error message you get?
[09:12] <_patrick> On the kboggle it just doesn't take the make install protocal asked for. The other refuses my administrator password.
[09:12] <_patrick> Go figure?
[09:13] <Lynoure> oh, they are not .debs
[09:13] <_patrick> Otherwise Kubuntu has been great, and except for windows emulator packages I need to install.
[09:14] <_patrick> OK, I thought I downloaded debs. What should be my approach with them.
[09:14] <zorglu1> ah yep wanted to try the 'install winxp thru qemu' stuff :)
[09:14] <_patrick> Terminal was the only other way I thought I could download them.
[09:14] <fatejudger> !sources.list
[09:14] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:14] <vinboy> hi
[09:15] <Lynoure> _patrick: well, .deb doesn't require you to do make isntall
[09:15] <zorglu1> hmm the 5.10 to 6.06 updates removed some entry from brug/menu.lst :(
[09:15] <Lynoure> s/isntall/install
[09:15] <vinboy> how do I edit my Konqueror -> right-click -> open-with menu?
[09:15] <Lynoure> _patrick: instead you can do sudo dpkg --install foobar
[09:16] <_patrick> Ok, how should I use that with these files?
[09:17] <Lynoure> _patrick: just like I said into other comment, if yout are .deb files you do sudo dpkg --install thefileyouhave
[09:18] <_patrick> Thanks I'll try it. Sure do appreciate.
[09:41] <zorgluuu> q. i updated my 5.10 to a 6.06 beta by following the instructions on the web site, everything went well, i rebooted, and i still run kde3.4.3 ? is it normal ?
[09:42] <Hobbsee> zorgluuu: er....nope.
[09:42] <zorgluuu> ok any suggestion i could look at to fix the issue
[09:44] <zorgluuu> redoing the update/upgrade
[09:44] <zorgluuu> apparently stuff were missed
[09:45] <zorgluuu> it is so weird when you start using a new stuff like that
[09:45] <Hobbsee> zorgluuu: yeah, do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:45] <zorgluuu> a lot of thing happen without any idea why
[09:45] <zorgluuu> Hobbsee, i did another gksudo "update-manager -d"
[09:45] <zorgluuu> and it is currently downloading
[09:45] <Hobbsee> ah okay, cool
[09:46] <zorgluuu> hmm i think i have an idea of what happened
[09:47] <zorgluuu> my first gksudo "update-manager -d" did only the update from the cd install to all the fresh packages for 5.1
[09:47] <zorgluuu> and the second is doing the dist-upgrade
[09:47] <zorgluuu> is that possible ?
[09:47] <Mars^> Hi all. I have a question. I am going to learn c++ and i need some kind of editor, with syntax or smthng. Can you give me a name of good one?
[09:47] <vinboy> how do I edit my Konqueror -> right-click -> open-with menu?
[09:48] <zorgluuu> mark---, usually kde people uses kdevelop
[09:48] <zorgluuu> mark---, personnally i use eclipse
[09:49] <zorgluuu> it is more a matter of personal tastes
[09:49] <zorgluuu> note that those IDE are rather complex for a beginer
[09:49] <zorgluuu> thinking about it you may try kate
[09:50] <zorgluuu> vinboy, my wild guess is that it is related to mime-type
[09:50] <zorgluuu> but i dont know how to change them yet
[09:51] <zorgluuu> vinboy, konqueror - setting menu - config konqueror - file associations may help you
[09:52] <vinboy> thanks zorgluuu
[09:52] <DHGE> hi - anyone printing on the latest dapper with an officejet (mine does NOTHING), error messages only after I change permissions on   /var/log/cups/error.log
[09:52] <DHGE> error message: cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[09:53] <Mars^> I will check out both.
[10:01] <zorgluuu> mouaoau downloading the package is fast stage in the install :) then installing the rpm is like 4 times longer :)
[10:01] <zorgluuu> rpm couch i meant deb :)
[10:09] <necron> if i want to provice firefox with availability to view flash for every user, how should i do it? swf-player from adept? download it from macromedia? ...
[10:09] <necron> and i would dislike to install it for every user ... would prefer a global solution
[10:10] <zorgluuu> i dunno if it is the best solution compares to stuff from adept
[10:10] <zorgluuu> but the download from macromedia allow you to do a 'system install'
[10:11] <necron> zorgluuu: sounds good to me :) but i have to update manually then, right?
[10:12] <zorgluuu> yep
[10:12] <necron> alright ... i prefer systeminstall over automated update ,-9
[10:16] <zorgluuu> :)
[10:17] <necron> works nice, thanks :)
[10:18] <necron> zorgluuu: should i take java from sun or from adept?
[10:18] <necron> :)
[10:19] <zorgluuu> this i dunno, i am on ubuntu for 3h now :)
[10:19] <necron> zorgluuu: oh, i see :)
[10:19] <necron> i am new to it too. just got my wireless internet working (the wireless lan doenst work so far)
[10:22] <zorgluuu> tips: not a good idea to use your system while updating it :)
[10:23] <zorgluuu> 'cant start kio_http' in konqueror :)
[10:24] <necron> *G*
[10:25] <fermi> necron: Kubuntu is not suitable for a unstable-networking user
[10:25] <zorglu1> fermi: what is the issue ?
[10:25] <fermi> necron: coz you'd better update and upgrade your system every single hour
[10:26] <fermi> zorglu1: hmmm, just telling what I know about Kubuntu
[10:27] <zorglu1> ah ok, you mean that kubuntu move so fast that very frequent update are required ?
[10:27] <xst> My kubuntu (dapper, beta2) has begun to power down my laptop harddisk if it has been unused for no more than a couple of seconds. All this spin up/down can't be healthy for the disk. How can I adjust this?
[10:29] <fermi> zorglu1: hmm, partly right
[10:29] <fermi> zorglu1: I am actually saying that there's no stable release for Linux OS...
[10:30] <Rizado> I've just upgradet to kubuntu dapper but all my desktops icons too small, How can I change them to the same size as in kubuntu breezy?
[10:30] <fermi> zorglu1: you need to update frequently to ensure your system is on the best performance
[10:30] <zorglu1> fermi: ok i got it
[10:31] <necron> fermi: i just use kubuntu as a workstation ... server is debian sarge ...
[10:31] <necron> fermi: but kubuntu dapper has wg111v2 native support, what i need for my workstations ...
[10:31] <fermi> zorglu1: in the mean time, you may encounter any kind of problems or system crash, but hey, it's going to be recovered, soon, by upgrading the systme
[10:31] <fermi> system*
[10:32] <necron> fermi: thats why you get new packages with kubuntu
[10:32] <fermi> necron: good combination
[10:32] <necron> if you need a stable system you should stay with debian
[10:33] <fermi> necron: true, debian is better for professionals...
[10:33] <necron> debian is a great linux. it just is a little outdatet all the time, but hey... who needs kde 3.5 on a server?
[10:33] <alvito> alguem me pde ajudar sff
[10:33] <fermi> necron: but for those who are not so familiar with bash stuff, Ubuntu provides the solution
[10:34] <fermi> necron: I mean, Ubuntu is better when considering the Desktop
[10:35] <necron> fermi: my problem is, that i dont like gnome :)
[10:35] <necron> fermi: and i like bash ... so i like kubuntu so far :)
[10:35] <fermi> necron: LOL
[10:35] <necron> ;-)
[10:36] <fermi> necron: according to what I know, gnome is ugly, yet is more stable than KDE...
[10:37] <fermi> necron: as a Chinese user, my Kubuntu is always out of use because of the Chinese input methods...
[10:37] <necron> fermi: yes, that may be. but as i have a girlfriend, that is using this computer too, i prefer kde due to much more useability ...
[10:37] <necron> fermi: um. i can imagine the mess ...
[10:38] <necron> fermi: i sometimes have to do with chinese guys at work and the chinese input-system troubles many softwaredevelopers :)
[10:38] <fermi> necron: Girls would definitely prefer KDE...
[10:38] <fermi> coz KDE's interface is so cool
[10:38] <necron> ;-)
[10:38] <necron> you got it :) girls are much more visually ...
[10:39] <fermi> LOL
[10:39] <necron> its true :)
[10:39] <necron> if i got a black screen with white font
[10:39] <necron> and i can type what i want, i am happy with it
[10:39] <necron> girls normally dont like that way ...
[10:39] <necron> they prefer icons
[10:41] <fermi> necron: in that case, give them suggestions, let them use Mac OS X...
[10:41] <fermi> necron: Mac should be better, yah?
[10:41] <zorglu1> i quitted text tty in 2001 and never came back. now i even code with the mouse :)
[10:41] <zorglu1> almost mandatory for eclipse
[10:41] <fermi> zorglu1: LOL
[10:42] <raf> hello! could someone help me with Kubuntu?
[10:42] <fermi> raf, before you seek any help from the channel here, do read the help doc first
[10:43] <raf> where can I find the help doc?
[10:43] <fermi> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FaqOnIrc
[10:43] <fermi> right on the top of this channel...
[10:43] <raf> ok, I'm going to read it, thanks
[10:43] <fermi> welcome
[10:54] <raf> well,  I have found 3 pages about VPN, but I have  some questions,Can I ask?
[10:55] <necron> surely can you ask :)
[10:55] <necron> the question is, does someone know, what you want to know ...
[10:56] <raf> I want to connect to a VPN
[10:56] <necron> ok
[10:56] <raf> so I need a VPN Client
[10:56] <necron> i use vpnc
[10:56] <necron> apt-get install vpnc
[10:56] <necron> or use adept if you like ... the package is named "vpnc"
[10:57] <raf> isn't vpnc only for Cisco VPN's?
[10:57] <necron> raf: oh. sorry :) i use cisco ...
[10:58] <necron> raf: but you could try kvpnc
[10:58] <raf> I mean, can I use vpnc to connect to my VPN I've created with Clark Connect?
[10:58] <raf> oh, ok
[10:58] <necron> raf: kvpnc supports different systems as far as i know
[10:59] <raf> necron: thnks, I'll try it
[10:59] <raf> what about openvnc?
[10:59] <necron> kvpnc is only the gui if i remember correctly
[11:01] <raf> oh, ok
[11:01] <raf> well, thanks again
[11:01] <raf> see you
[11:01] <necron> see you :)
[11:17] <nox-Hand> Hey
[11:44] <nightwatch> hi there, i'm compiling a package using apt-get --build source pack but when it is up to compile apt recognizes my architecture as i386 but my pc is p4 and my kernel is i686, where I fix it?
[11:45] <mu> hi !
[11:45] <nightwatch> hi
[11:46] <mu> anyone knows how to install the fglrx drivers on dapper ?
[11:46] <Hobbsee> nightwatch: they dont build separate i386 and i686 packages
[11:47] <apokryphos> nightwatch: your architecture is still 32-bit. i686 packs only get built in particular situations, like for kernels.
[11:47] <nightwatch> I got this message: dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture i386
[11:47] <nightwatch> I know,  I'd like it optimized
[11:47] <apokryphos> that's right
[11:48] <apokryphos> it doesn't... really work like that
[11:48] <apokryphos> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=breezy&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=linux-686&searchon=names
[11:48] <apokryphos> see that for example
[11:48] <nightwatch> ok
[11:48] <apokryphos> if you want it optimized you'll have to somehow do it yourself. Packages will still get built at i386
[11:49] <pulsar> Hallo!
[11:50] <nightwatch> thanks apokryphos , it helps a lot... I gonna build my kernel later... by now I will accept i386 arch
[11:50] <pulsar_> I get a kernel panic on my system when using fglrx... What can I do to investigate the problem?
[11:51] <mu> pulsar_: how did you build the kernel modul ?
[11:51] <mu> pulsar_: i get an error in the makefile ...
[11:52] <pulsar_> mu: Precompiled from dapper repositories.
[11:52] <pulsar_> (since it's the latest available version)
[11:54] <mu> pulsar_: the fglrx-kernel-source 8.24.8
[11:54] <mu> pulsar_: ?
[11:54] <nightwatch> apokryphos: in that case [ kernel compiling]  should I download from kernel.org and then chkinstall.. or run make install or use apt-build? what do you recommend?
[11:55] <apokryphos> nightwatch: you want a processor-specific kernel?
[11:55] <pulsar_> mu: Well, linux-restricted-modules
[11:55] <nightwatch> yes. my processor
[11:56] <apokryphos> nightwatch: just install linux-686
[11:56] <nightwatch> I did, but as you said it is actually i386 arch
[11:57] <nightwatch> that's my uname -r: 2.6.12-9-686
[12:02] <nightwatch> apokryphos: ?
[12:03] <apokryphos> nightwatch: heh, no, it's not actually i386 arch :)
[12:03] <apokryphos> the .deb is just built to say that
[12:03] <apokryphos> they've of course done the relevant optimisations for pentium processors
[12:04] <nightwatch> o.O why someone did some like that? why rename the arch?
[12:05] <apokryphos> because the only standard build architectures are i386, ppc, and amd64
[12:05] <apokryphos> you get rare optimisations, like in the kernel, but it's not that popular.
[12:07] <nightwatch> then I think I understood wrong.... actually I read about optimizatiions after hear about gentoo.. I'd like to make my kubuntu a little bit faster... or optimized to my pc
[12:08] <apokryphos> there's really not that much differnece in perfomance to if you had built it all specifically for 686, really
[12:08] <nightwatch> but maybe is not necessary.. it istno slow.. I did just for testing
[12:09] <nightwatch> ok, I will not try it anymore.. takes a long time and I get a lot errors
[12:09] <apokryphos> try what anymore?
[12:10] <nightwatch> compile programs just for optimization
[12:10] <apokryphos> yeah
[12:29] <ninHer> hi all
[12:43] <Steven_M> Hi all
[12:43] <nightwatch> hi
[12:43] <Steven_M> how do I downgrade from kde 3.5.2 to kde 3.5.1?
[12:45] <nightwatch> dunno
[12:47] <inc|freaky> hi all. ;D does any1 use yakuake? my problem: i set the background to be transparent, on the first konsole in yakuake it works. but when i open an additional one, the background is just black there even in the settings the background is set to transparent - can anyone help me with that?=
[12:47] <inc|freaky> what is better, openoffice or koffice?
[12:48] <Hobbsee> inc|freaky: openoffice reads .doc files better...
[12:49] <inc|freaky> ^^ k
[12:56] <inc|freaky> are there any online linux magazines?
[12:59] <inc|freaky> how can i change my usericon if it has been disabled by the system administrator ... and i am the system administrator? ;D
[12:59] <inc|freaky> kde
[01:00] <inc|freaky> [4295984.011000]  ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting. hmm
[01:01] <jacktorrance> incfreaky sucks
[01:03] <zorglu2> inc|freaky: hmm i got the same here, and apparently the boot happen without issue
[01:03] <zorglu2> i dont use it tho
[01:03] <jacktorrance> incfreaky sucks
[01:03] <inc|freaky> k
[01:03] <zorglu2> 2.6.15-21-386 my kernel
[01:03] <inc|freaky> //exec uname -r
[01:03] <jacktorrance> kernel sucks
[01:03] <inc|freaky> hmm
[01:04] <inc|freaky> nm ;)
[01:04] <jacktorrance> incfreaky sucks
[01:04] <inc|freaky> can someone tell me how i can change my usericon?
[01:04] <jacktorrance> incfreaky sucks
[01:04] <Hobbsee> jacktorrance: why?
[01:04] <inc|freaky> when i try to change it it says it has been disabled by the system administrator, but i never did that and i dont know how to allow it
[01:04] <jacktorrance> hobbsee sucks
[01:04] <zorglu2> is jacktorrance a bot ?
[01:04] <inc|freaky> i have him on ignore ;)
[01:05] <Hobbsee> gone now :)
[01:05] <zorglu2> thx :)
[01:05] <inc|freaky> hehe, thx ;D
[01:05] <Hobbsee> at least it wasnt a spam bot...i hate them!
[01:05] <Hobbsee> so hard to mute them quickly, without setting the channel +R
[01:06] <inc|freaky> hehe
[01:08] <Hobbsee> inc|freaky: i dont know the answers to any of hte above questions, sorry...
[01:09] <inc|freaky> hehe, np ;D ill try finding out myself
[01:09] <inc|freaky> 2.6.15-21-386 my kernel btwq
[01:10] <inc|freaky> ah we have the same ;D
[01:10] <Hobbsee> hmm?
[01:10] <Hobbsee> i use the 686 kernel...
[01:10] <inc|freaky> yea i should maybe use that1 too ...
[01:10] <Hobbsee> inc|freaky: you using konv?
[01:10] <Hobbsee> do a /sysinfo
[01:10] <inc|freaky> what is konv?
[01:11] <Hobbsee> konv = konversation
[01:11] <inc|freaky> im using kvirc
[01:11] <Hobbsee> ah okay
[01:11] <inc|freaky> cvs version
[01:11] <Hobbsee> inc|freaky: what type of processor do you have?
[01:11] <inc|freaky> Intel M Centrino 2,0ghz
[01:11] <Hobbsee> yeah, i think you can use the 686 kernel then...
[01:11] <inc|freaky> ehm, pentium i think
[01:12] <inc|freaky> i guess that would even be better
[01:12] <inc|freaky> the ubuntu kernels are the "linux" ones right?
[01:12] <Hobbsee> yes
[01:13] <Hobbsee> install linux-image-686
[01:13] <inc|freaky> k, its downloading ;D
[01:13] <Hobbsee> and the restricted modules if you need them
[01:13] <inc|freaky> i will have to recompile nvidia drivers then
[01:13] <Hobbsee> hmm...there's a new kernel, yet the metapackage hasnt been updated...i wonder why
[01:13] <Hobbsee> got no idea, likely
[01:13] <inc|freaky> yea ive seen that too
[01:13] <inc|freaky> ill just wait
[01:16] <inc|freaky> ill reboot now, brb
[01:27] <Infecto> i`v got problem witch suspend to ram, when i try to do it from kde Klaptop, clicking right on the ikon my suspend starting when i exit from kde
[01:27] <Infecto> pleas tel me why ?
[01:33] <inc|freaky> back with new kernel ;D
[01:37] <Hobbsee> inc|freaky: yay
[01:37] <Hobbsee> restricted modules arent there yet though.
[01:39] <inc|freaky> Hobbsee: yea i dont need them anyway ;D i even would have had to uninstall them for installing the nvidia drivers ;D
[01:39] <inc|freaky> ati drivers i mena
[01:39] <inc|freaky> *mean
[01:39] <Hobbsee> oh okay....
[01:46] <Groquick> Bonjour tout le monde
[01:46] <Groquick> Est ce que quelqu'un fait tourner cdga en 64 bits ?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> !fr
[01:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:48] <Groquick> sorry
[01:48] <Pupeno> Can kword do batch conversion from kwd to odt ?
[01:48] <martin_linuxtag> ee mark shuttleworth now live at linuxtag http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/de/home/video/playlists.html
[01:49] <Hobbsee> martin_linuxtag: how's the kubuntu table look?
[01:50] <Hobbsee> tell raphink and the others that hobbsee says hi :P
[01:51] <zorglu2> that's a nice advertisement :)
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> zorglu2: yeah, nice shirt.
[01:54] <zorglu2> yep endorsement from ubuntu is good for kde
[01:56] <martin_linuxtag> Hobbsee, the kubuntu booth looks nice. they do a quite good show.
[01:56] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:56] <martin_linuxtag> mark wears a kubuntu shirt. you should take a look :-)
[01:57] <Blissex> martin_linuxtag: apparently Shuttleworth himself uses Kubuntu...
[01:57] <Blissex> not just the t-shirt.
[01:59] <zorglu2> q. is there a way to get the html page of konqueror to be full screen ?
[01:59] <zorglu2> f11 leaves menu
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> I respect a guy who's as rich as him and still doesn't dress as well as I do, which isn't very well :p
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> hehe
[02:01] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:01] <zorglu2> the solution was double click on the page :)
[02:04] <Pupeno> I tried koconverter and I've got: "koffice (filter manager): ERROR: Couldn't create a valid filter chain!", but I was able to convert it using kword (from kwd to odt); any ideas ?
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> June 1st will be a good day, dapper goes final and Armed Assault from Bohemia Interactive is suppose to be released too :)
[02:08] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: hehe nice!
[02:20] <xbourvel> hello, i have a working ksensors ( able to see my MB sensors ) and a working hddtemp ( logs shows the right HD temp ) but i cannot understand how to see hddtemp output through ksensors ... any hint ?
[02:45] <Seantater> xbourvel: ksensors uses lmsensors -- not hddtemp -- I think you will have to deal with lmsensors -- it won;t use anything else.
[02:51] <xbourvel> seantater: thnaks ! I'm gonna try this way. I found stuff related to hddtemp in ksensors source code, but i'm not in the mood of spending much time in ...
[02:53] <antx> hello? anybody home?
[02:54] <Pupeno> I tried koconverter and I've got: "koffice (filter manager): ERROR: Couldn't create a valid filter chain!", but I was able to convert it using kword (from kwd to odt); any ideas ?
[02:57] <antx> well, I`ll ask anyway... I`m very new to linux and just installed kubuntu breezy. I wonder if this is the right place to ask questions? is it?
[02:57] <eqisow> this or the forums
[02:57] <eqisow> but anywho, fire away
[02:57] <antx> okay, then:
[02:58] <antx> I want to install firefox. I thought adept is the right thing for it or not?
[02:58] <Hobbsee> antx: you can install firefox thru adept, yes
[02:58] <eqisow> well yes, although I personally don't like adept
[02:59] <eqisow> Synaptic seems much cleaner to me, you can get it through adept as well ;)
[02:59] <antx> okay, I searched for it there and hit install... nothing happend. only the install button changed to "keep"
[03:00] <antx> the help file for adept was not installed with kubuntu so what now?
[03:01] <eqisow> well, if you want a quick solution, just open up a command line a do: apt-get install firefox
[03:02] <antx> okay, this might work. but there must be an easy way with adept too. I sure need more than just firefox
[03:02] <antx> is there somewhere another button I have to hit?
[03:02] <eqisow> aye, I'm sure there is, but I've just never really used adept. It's not even on my system atm
[03:02] <antx> hehe. okay.
[03:03] <antx> Ill see if i can find the helpfile somewhere...
[03:03] <eqisow> unless somebody else ehre can lend a hand, I'd say just apt-get install synaptic and use that
[03:05] <PeregrineSky> where can i get the md5sum for kubuntu?
[03:05] <eqisow> should come by default as far as I know
[03:06] <PeregrineSky> with the dl?
[03:06] <eqisow> ohhhh
[03:06] <eqisow> nm, I misunderstood
[03:07] <PeregrineSky> okie
[03:07] <eqisow> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dapper/MD5SUMS
[03:07] <eqisow> there you are peregrine
[03:09] <steveire> antx: just hit apply changes.
[03:09] <steveire> you can preview before you do that too.
[03:10] <antx> ah, thanks... its just not so easy to figure this out without the helpfile
[03:10] <steveire> I'm constantly amazed at what packages I can get for Linux. Plotting and the likes of k3dsurf. All free too. Helps us students out
[03:10] <steveire> Any more questions, just fire away
[03:11] <antx> not right now, but I might be back shortly... ;-)
[03:13] <Hobbsee> steveire: yeah, exactly :D
[03:14] <steveire> Are you studying Hobbsee?
[03:14] <Hobbsee> steveire: yeah, i'm at uni at the moment
[03:14] <steveire> Studying what? I'm engineering
[03:17] <Hobbsee> steveire: bachelor of technology in optoelectronics.
[03:18] <steveire> fibre optics and the likes?
[03:19] <pedro> Hello again
[03:19] <pedro> I am going crazy with the setup or configuration of my printer
[03:19] <pedro> I would be glad to receive some help please
[03:21] <eqisow> well lets take a crack at it then
[03:21] <pedro> My printer is an HP PSC 1315 All-in-One
[03:21] <pedro> Kubuntu Breezy
[03:21] <pedro> I have proved to install with hpijs and hpoj drivers but the problem is that print very very slow
[03:22] <Hobbsee> steveire: that's the one :)
[03:22] <pedro> it can take about 9 minuts to print one page
[03:22] <pedro> any suggestions?
[03:24] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: know who that is speaking now?
[03:24] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: I assume you are watching.
[03:24] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: no, i'm not watching..i was building...
[03:25] <LeeJunFan> I missed the introduction on the transit to work.
[03:26] <eqisow> pedro, I'm looking, but I don't see where it *should* have any problems... I mean, accoridng to HP and linuxprinting, it should work
[03:26] <pedro> yes
[03:26] <pedro> I have search everywhere
[03:27] <eqisow> have you thought about maybe giving HP a ring?
[03:27] <pedro> that's not the way
[03:27] <pedro> my printer work right in Windows
[03:27] <Get_Hyphy> haha
[03:27] <pedro> and worked right in other distros of Linux (Mandrake and Suse)
[03:28] <ep> On shutdown, I got a message  something to the effect of "tmpfs is busy", remounted as read only.  Subsequent lock up.
[03:28] <pedro> I remember to have a similar problem with a debian distro
[03:28] <pedro> and now with Kubuntu
[03:29] <ep> So I check my tmp partition in kwiqdisk and it list type as "?"  and theres some message about it being mounted multible times.  How can I fix?
[03:29] <nagi> hello.
[03:31] <eqisow> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters?highlight
[03:31] <eqisow> that may be of some help Pedro, I'm not sur
[03:31] <eqisow> e
[03:31] <eqisow> it list your printer specifically
[03:32] <pedro> I am going to see it
[03:32] <pedro> thanx
[03:40] <antx> I have now firefox running, but it is version 1.08. Id like 1.5.03. how do I get it? on the mozilla site I can download a gzip file but I dont know how to install it. I guess I really need a package. can I find them from within adept or synaptic?
[03:42] <steveire> I noticed the same thing. I got it from the firefox site, and it was really simple. Of course, since then I've installed dapper, which has ffv1.5.0.2.
[03:43] <insanekane> hi ... whats a good mail server for kubuntu ?
[03:44] <yanis> sendmail?
[03:44] <steveire> http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.0.3.html <<< antx
[03:44] <antx> jo, but as a newbie I did not want to mess with RCs...
[03:44] <LeeJunFan> insanekane: postfix
[03:46] <insanekane> LeeJunFan: is it easy to setup ?
[03:46] <insanekane> LeeJunFan: i want to set up like, kane@localhost kind of addresses
[03:46] <insanekane> LeeJunFan: basically, so that roundup will work
[03:46] <LeeJunFan> insanekane: yeah, that'll work w/o config.
[03:47] <eqisow> antx: there are two ways to get FF 1.5. One would be to update to dapper (which is quite stable), the second would be to follow the instructions at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:47] <antx> but what do I do after I have the ff files extracted? how do I actually install it?
[03:47] <LeeJunFan> insanekane: you shouldn't have to do anything but install it to get localhost mail working.
[03:47] <antx> okay, I have a look...
[03:49] <xwolf-> t
[03:50] <klarkin> morning :/
[03:50] <xwolf-> sup.
[03:50] <Get_Hyphy> insanekane: i set up exim4  + courier-imap + squirrelmail (webmail client) , it took a little reading, but it was a piece of piss
[03:51] <Get_Hyphy> insanekane: i use a hostname  and mx record  from dyndns.com
[03:53] <xwolf-> i can reach two routers, 192.168.254.254 and 192.168.10.254, is there a way to create two separate non-simultaneous ethernet interfaces - like eth0 and eth1 - and swap between those routers just by enabling eth0 and disabling eth1 and vice-versa?
[03:55] <insanekane> Get_Hyphy: my goal right now is to get localhost mail working ... so that I can use roundup
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> xwolf-: yes, you could even load balance between them for greater speeds.
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> xwolf-: google for advanced routing how-to
[03:55] <xwolf-> load balance?
[03:55] <insanekane> Get_Hyphy: hopefully, soon, i'll be able to hire a sysadmin who knows all this
[03:56] <LeeJunFan> xwolf-: load balancing would use both of them at once.
[03:57] <xwolf-> oh.. not possible i gues.
[03:57] <xwolf-> s/gues/guess
[03:58] <squilla> Hi all -->I may be speaking out of turn here - but it's very possible to use the route command to specify nets to devices - saw it in man route a couple of days ago - would that not help?
[03:58] <Get_Hyphy> insanekane: roundup?
[04:00] <insanekane> Get_Hyphy: its an issue tracking software in Python
[04:00] <Get_Hyphy> squilla: id say youre on the right track, probably very easy to make it so that - if eth0 is down, then use eth1 - or some such
[04:01] <steveire> So, Dapper is to be supported for three years. When the repos are frozen, does that mean that there will still be no non-security updates for three years, instead of the current six months? If I understand what's going on that it...
[04:01] <steveire> that is*
[04:01] <steveire> Do I have the right idea?
[04:02] <insanekane> steveire: there will be security updates
[04:02] <steveire> no non-security updates?
[04:02] <eqisow> I assume there will be backports as well
[04:02] <eqisow> and ther ewill still be a new version every 6 months
[04:02] <eqisow> the next one is already named even
[04:02] <steveire> Oh, right. it'll just be supported for three?
[04:03] <eqisow> exactly
[04:03] <steveire> How long willl breezy be supported for? What's the name of the next version?
[04:03] <squilla> Get_Hyphy: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/701790
[04:03] <eqisow> they don't usually keep doing security updates that long for old versions
[04:03] <eqisow> Edgy Eft
[04:03] <Get_Hyphy> outlandish octopus
[04:03] <eqisow> not sure what the usual support length is, tbh
[04:03] <steveire> 6.12 i presume?
[04:03] <thev> Isn't Dapper after Breezy?
[04:04] <eqisow> 6.10 actually
[04:04] <squilla> isn't Edgy Eft supposed to be bleeding edge land?
[04:04] <steveire> hmmm
[04:04] <eqisow> they plan on keeping to the 6 months, even though Dapper was late
[04:04] <steveire> ah.
[04:04] <thev> If I have Breezy installed now, is it easy to update to Dapper?
[04:04] <thev> or is a reinstall required
[04:04] <steveire> squilla: What do you mean bleeding edge? dapper is pretty cutting edge anyway.
[04:04] <eqisow> Edgy will be pushing a lot of new features, and will likely have less polish than Dapper. Hence the long support period for Dapper
[04:05] <eqisow> thev, it's as simple as updating you repositories and doing apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:05] <eqisow> your*
[04:05] <thev> great
[04:05] <thev> sounds good
[04:05] <thev> I can handle that :)
[04:06] <squilla> steveire: true - I read something about a "developers version" and thought it was Edgy Eft
[04:06] <steveire> What do you mean polish? user-friendlyness?
[04:06] <eqisow> lack of bugs mostly :p
[04:06] <thev> I'm guessing it's a little more involved to add a 64bit version?
[04:06] <thev> right now I have 32 bit
[04:06] <eqisow> since they are trying so many new things, and they only have 4 months to do it
[04:06] <eqisow> err, going to 64bit might require a reinstall. I'm not sur eon that
[04:06] <squilla> steveire: ... and Dapper is supposed to freeze end May is it not? That would make it stable and therefore not a bleeder
[04:06] <steveire> eqisow: That's what I was thinking. 4 months is not a long time
[04:07] <thev> eqisow - can I dual boot?
[04:07] <eqisow> if you shrink the current partition and do a fresh install, yeah
[04:07] <eqisow> not if you dist-upgrade, if that's what you were thinking
[04:08] <hiasll> is it possible to update breezy i386 to breezy amd64?
[04:08] <thev> no, I want to have a dual boot 32/64 - my scanner drivers aren't available in 32bit
[04:08] <thev> err... 64bit
[04:08] <steveire> Bleeding edge is probably a phrase that means more to you than it does to me...
[04:08] <eqisow> right, well there is a way to add support for 32 bit apps in the 64 bit version, however I'm not familiar with it
[04:08] <thev> chrooting, but I could never get it to work
[04:09] <eqisow> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[04:09] <thev> you basically have the 32b kernel installed, but boot into the 64b one
[04:09] <eqisow> howto there, might be helpful /shrug
[04:09] <squilla> pity - I'm interested in that
[04:09] <thev> I dunno... I went through all of this awhile ago and couldn't ge tit working in Ubuntu or Gentoo
[04:10] <thev> then I killled linux and went back to windows to get some projects done... now I'm back :)
[04:10] <steveire> So what does 'bleeder' mean? concurrent development type stuff?
[04:10] <thev> I'll give it another look though
[04:10] <eqisow> bleeding edge basically means the newest available. it also means more unsquashed bugs
[04:11] <thev> eqisow - but a much greater l33t factor, right? :)
[04:11] <eqisow> lol, I suppoe
[04:11] <eqisow> suppose even
[04:11] <eqisow> you get shiny new toys first, but they tend to break :p
[04:12] <thev> anyone know how linux NTFS access is progressing?
[04:12] <thev> reading seems to be fine
[04:12] <thev> how reliable is writing now?
[04:12] <nagi> guys are working on that :)
[04:13] <Seantater> anyone had a memory leak in beta 2? I'm not sure what did it, but my 512 MB memory and 1024MB swap file got crammed full
[04:13] <eqisow> if you're not willing to risk screwing up your windows partition, I wouldn't go for it just yet
[04:13] <nox-Hand> thev: Writing is still experimental.
[04:13] <thev> I'm leaving all my mounts read only for now, thats for sure
[04:14] <thev> I don't want to lose 2 years of digital photos and projects :)
[04:14] <nox-Hand> I got an error whilst installing the beta, so I just installed the stable.. The stable new version is out next month anywho..
[04:14] <Seantater> I had on konversation, konqueror and amarok
[04:14] <eqisow> Seantater, beta 2 is working fine for me. you do know that Linux uses extra RAM to cache files, right?
[04:14] <Seantater> I know -- but that's not it..
[04:14] <Seantater> The computer slowed down gradually until it stopped
[04:15] <Seantater> It's not the cpu -- becasue the fan woule become louder
[04:15] <eqisow> right, well I'm not sure. everything is running ok for me
[04:15] <Seantater> I tried enabling the swap as it was happening, but the swap file was already on and full
[04:16] <Seantater> by the time it got finshed saying that -- it stopped
[04:16] <eqisow> I'm using like 600MB ram atm and no swap. I've had the system up for a couple of weeks now
[04:16] <Seantater> But it's really weird to see what Linux will do to save memory
[04:17] <eqisow> Maybe it's a specifica app causing the issue?
[04:18] <Seantater> I thought so
[04:18] <eosyn> I think azureus or ff might have done mine the same way
[04:18] <eosyn> or mebee the amarok.. that was running too
[04:18] <eqisow> java and ff are def both memory hogs
[04:18] <eqisow> esp java
[04:18] <eosyn> yep
[04:19] <eosyn> azureus is a big pig
[04:19] <Seantater> I thought A) konversation was holding too many lines of text B) konqueror had problems displaying the web C) amarok's buffers had a memory leak
[04:19] <eqisow> but to stop the system entirely? I dunno
[04:19] <udo> hello
[04:19] <steveire> 'story?
[04:19] <udo> i'm running breezy is that the latest stable?
[04:19] <rvfh> udo: yes
[04:19] <steveire> yep
[04:19] <udo> I installed kxdocker, are there any other that are is better?
[04:19] <eqisow> yes
[04:19] <udo> whihch ones are better ?
[04:20] <rvfh> What is kxdocker? Ans what is it for?
[04:20] <eqisow> err, I was yesing your first question, sorry. never had a go at kxdocker myself
[04:20] <udo> rvfh: is a docker?
[04:20] <jpatrick> docker app for KDE
[04:21] <udo> are there any others?
[04:21] <udo> is there a app so I configure the icons?
[04:21] <zorglu2> q. any idea of where i could find libxine-extracodec ? i enabled all the repository in the default apt/source.list but none seems to provide it
[04:21] <udo> how do I make kdoxkcerx startup at kde starting?
[04:21] <nxv_> hi is there a way to tell my laptop to auto connect if it finds a unprotected wlan
[04:22] <rvfh> udo: ~/.kde/AutostartI think
[04:22] <eqisow> zorg, I have it avail in my repos.. but I'm not sure which one is comes from, heh
[04:22] <nxv_> or have a set of keys it automaticaly usese when it finds the appropriate essid
[04:22] <rvfh> libxine-extracodecs is in multiverse...
[04:23] <zorglu2> hmm ok so i miss something
[04:24] <eqisow> Inxv_, I *think* kwifimanager should do it
[04:24] <zorglu2> well i did a apt-get update just to be sure
[04:24] <zorglu2> but still not found
[04:24] <rvfh> Yup, add multiverse at the end of one of the deb lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:24] <waterpie> hi all
[04:25] <eqisow> hello waterpie
[04:25] <zorglu2> ahhhhhh ok i think i get it
[04:25] <rvfh> That's mine: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[04:25] <udo> kooldock or ksmoothdock arn't in breaazy are they?
[04:25] <zorglu2> it need dapper multiverse
[04:25] <zorglu2> and i got dapper-backport
[04:25] <zorglu2> rvfh: thanks
[04:25] <antx> does kubuntu assign a default root password on install? It never ask me for one and I cant log in as root...
[04:26] <eqisow> no udo
[04:26] <udo> eqisow: how do I get them?
[04:26] <eqisow> ubuntu has no root account by default
[04:26] <rvfh> it's different. you want multiverse from dapper, not dapper-backports. Look at my line for reference,,,
[04:26] <zorglu2> rvfh: yep i understand now :)
[04:27] <zorglu2> thanks for your help
[04:27] <waterpie> is it possible to install kubuntu on top of my existing win/mandriva system, so as to wip of the / partition of mandriva and preserve the /home/username partition?
[04:27] <antx> aha. how do I access then folders like /opt?
[04:27] <eqisow> you can do admin stuff with sudo and your user password
[04:27] <rvfh> waterpie: is /home a different partition?
[04:27] <antx> aha, okay. thanks
[04:28] <rvfh> zorglu2: welcome mate!
[04:28] <nxv_> how can i configure my wireless for auto connect at boot time?
[04:28] <waterpie> /home is a diff partition.
[04:28] <rvfh> So that's easy: re-format / at install (if you're sure you want to do this), but careful not to reformat /home.
[04:29] <waterpie> ...but I would like, if possible, to preserve that partition as the real /home partition, with all the configs I have done to eg .kde
[04:29] <nagi> bye.
[04:29] <eqisow> udo, both apps have .deb packages available at kde-look.org . however, they are for debian sid and may have dependancy issues
[04:29] <rvfh> Should do: KDE will update config files to the Kubuntu version of KDE. No way back though!
[04:29] <thev> can ubuntu handle RPMs?
[04:30] <rvfh> thev: should do
[04:30] <eqisow> yes, you can convert them to deb with alien
[04:30] <thev> alien eh
[04:30] <eqisow> apt-get install alien
[04:30] <eqisow> then sudo alien -d filename
[04:30] <eqisow> and it generates a deb package based on the rpm
[04:31] <waterpie> i am ok with upgarding to the kubuntu version of configs, but eg would i be able to just open kmail or akregator and see what i now have?
[04:31] <eqisow> although I'm still not sure why alien needs root privelige /shrug
[04:31] <waterpie> ..the mails, the saved feeds & content, etc?
[04:32] <eqisow> I'm not sure waterpie, but I *think* you could back up your feeds and stuff as a text file before the reformat
[04:32] <rvfh> Don't know about that, and would like to!
[04:32] <rvfh> Backup is ALWAYS a good idea.
[04:32] <udo> rvfh: are there any clean ways?
[04:33] <ccc_> !alien
[04:33] <ubotu> I heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[04:33] <eqisow> not sure if kontact has an export function...
[04:33] <waterpie> eqisow: the idea is that I shouldn't reformat the /home partition, and it would just "plug in" to kubuntu
[04:33] <rvfh> udo: clean ways to do what, sorry. The backup?
[04:34] <eqisow> meh, the biggest problem I've ever had with alien is the resulting deb not having the proper dependencies, which means you can just remove it :p
[04:35] <rvfh> eqisow: maybe rpm -i --nodeps is best, if you're sure you have the dependencies installed.
[04:35] <ikochang> anyone know where rc.local file is?
[04:35] <waterpie> ikochang: locate <filenameYouSearch>
[04:36] <ikochang> hmmm, no such beast.  is there an equivalent on kubuntu?
[04:36] <rvfh> ind /etc -name rc.local
[04:36] <eqisow> rvfh, can you manager rpms install that way with synaptic and apt-get?
[04:37] <LeeJunFan> ikochang: I think with breezy it doesn't recognize rc.local - however dapper has one if you create /etc/rc.local
[04:37] <rvfh> I mean find, not ind
[04:37] <rvfh> eqisow: I don't think so, but I may be wrong. I remember something called kpackage that was meant to rule them all... Long ago!
[04:38] <ikochang> well, i need to make sure that my machine has ip_forward and tcp_syncookies started at boot.  what file would i look inside on a breezy machine?
[04:39] <rvfh> You could install with --no-deps, then find the binaries (tricky already) and run ldd on them to make sure they have the libs they need?
[04:39] <Darth_Tux> any ibook users here?
[04:40] <LeeJunFan> ikochang: sysctl.conf
[04:40] <LeeJunFan> ikochang: /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:40] <rvfh> BTW: /etc/init.d/rc.local
[04:41] <waterpie> ok, thanks for the answers. cu
[04:41] <rvfh> Use with moderation!
[04:41] <ikochang> much obliged
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> earlier than dapper doesn't have rc.local, you can create a dir called /etc/rc.boot, and it will run scripts you put in it on every boot.
[04:45] <steveire> what about bootmisc.sh? is that something different?
[04:46] <LeeJunFan> steveire: never heard of that.
[04:47] <ikochang> also, i've found an iptables config script that i'd like to use, but it's setup on a redhat machine.  where would i place the script and how would i start it?
[04:47] <steveire>  /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh I think it's like an autoexec.bat
[04:47] <steveire> I'm a n00b, though, so don't listen to me
[04:49] <Darth_Tux> can anyone explain to me how to resize a partition using parted?
[04:50] <insanekane> Darth_Tux: you should probably use QTParted to do that ...
[04:51] <thev> arggghhhhhhhuuuuuuuuu.... pah!
[04:51] <thev> linux hates my scanner
[04:53] <wattanasak> refresh not support VGA.NV
[04:53] <rvfh> ikochang: maybe in /etc/rcS; call it S37firewall.
[04:53] <antx> so, ff 1.5 is now running from comand line. now I need it to show up in the startmenu (with a nice icon). how do I do this?
[04:53] <rvfh> antx: right click on the 'K', go to menu editor, and have fun!
[04:55] <ikochang> rvfh> and after i save it to /etc/rcS.d/S37firewall, run "source /etc/rcS.d/S37firewall"?
[04:56] <insanekane> thev: :)
[04:57] <antx> very nice... thanks!!! :-)
[04:59] <ikochang> also, in my iptables, do i use -p tcp for ipsec traffic, or is it another protocol?
[04:59] <DeBert> Is there any progress in deuglifying KDE's (default) artwork?
[04:59] <DeBert> i mean Kubuntu's
[05:00] <insanekane> DeBert: theres some talk about that on the mailing list
[05:00] <DeBert> insanekane: good, good, cause it's almost june, and it shouldn't be shipped like this ;)
[05:01] <insanekane> DeBert: :)
[05:01] <steveire> DeBert: What's wrong with it?
[05:01] <steveire> I have no sense of aesthetics btw.
[05:01] <DeBert> steveire: it's hideous
[05:02] <DeBert> steveire: i think Kubuntu's default KDE artwork is the ugliest i've ever seen on any distro
[05:02] <steveire> Do you mean the background and stuff?
[05:02] <DeBert> steveire: yes
[05:02] <thev> DeBert - it's the result of techie people trying to do design... it's always going to end up in abomination :)
[05:02] <DeBert> thev: lol
[05:02] <steveire> bubbles are bad. Do you include icons in 'artwork' too?
[05:03] <DeBert> steveire: icons are pretty oke, but other than that everything else sucks
[05:03] <steveire> I'm still not sure what is included in everything else apart from the background. Screensaver? boot splash?
[05:04] <insanekane> steveire: how about colors
[05:05] <insanekane> steveire: and the ugly "Vista" windeco
[05:05] <DeBert> steveire: basically everything that can be configured in System Settings/Appearance. Window borders, widgets, fonts, etc
[05:06] <steveire> What colours?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> we need an ISO standard for themes :P
[05:07] <insanekane> steveire: look in System Settings -> Appearance
[05:07] <DeBert> And what sucks even more is that theming and installing themes sucks compared to gnome. That's the only thing gnome has over kde i think.
[05:07] <steveire> alright.
[05:08] <DeBert> I never managed to install a theme from kdelook. With gnome it's no problem at all, installing something from gnomelook
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> hmm - i cant even rember the differeance -  i seem to recall draging/dropping all sorts of themes to the kde theme applet and them installing easially enough.
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> but the way  every theme has like 3 different 'parts' (icons, window decor, colors, any else?) can be a little confusing at times.
[05:10] <DeBert> But KDE4 is coming, and that should fix a lot. ;)
[05:11] <jager> is firefox 1.0.8 all patched and secure like?
[05:11] <jpatrick> DeBert: win-deco's are mini-apps tho
[05:11] <ikochang> okay, i found what protocol it is, but i'm not completely understanding the input line for it.  anyone up on iptables?
[05:11] <thev> DeBert - any idea when that's due?
[05:11] <DeBert> thev: somewhere in fall this year i believe
[05:11] <thev> ah ok
[05:12] <thev> anyone know of a good usb scanner howto for ubuntu?
[05:12] <jamiepedder> any screenshots available of kde4 yet (previews)?/
[05:12] <thev> lsusb is seeing it, but I can't get it working
[05:12] <jager> is firefox 1.0.8 all patched up and shiney?
[05:12] <jager> should i install 1.5.0.3 or whatever?
[05:13] <tjb891> were can I find a list of supported network cards for kubuntu?
[05:13] <jamiepedder> thev, it might need firmware to runn
[05:13] <jamiepedder> thev, what scanner is it
[05:13] <DeBert> jager: if you installed all updates it is
[05:13] <antx> another question: during install of kubuntu I was asked which network hardware I want to use. I selected the wireless thing and went on. This one works now fine but I also want my standard lan (via cable) to work too. do I still have to set up something somewhere or should it work when I plug in a network cable?
[05:13] <jager> thev: i have a lexmark x73 that needs a file from the windows installation disk to work, perhaps your problem is similar?
[05:13] <thev> jamiepedder - its the Epson 3170
[05:13] <jager> thanks DeBert
[05:14] <thev> jager - i don't think so
[05:14] <thev> there is a program published for it with sane backend support
[05:14] <thev> I had it working in Gentoo 32b awhile back
[05:14] <thev> no luck in Ubuntu though
[05:14] <jager> yeah prolly not then, xsane told me up front it was missing a file when i installed mine
[05:14] <jamiepedder> thev, have you installed the sane backends
[05:15] <thev> jamiepedder - yeah
[05:15] <jamiepedder> sorry, just checking, lol
[05:15] <thev> I think so :/ - where are they located?
[05:15] <jamiepedder> bear with me
[05:15] <thev> I'd better double check
[05:15] <steveire> antx: do you have your computer connected by cable at the mo?
[05:16] <antx> no
[05:16] <jamiepedder> thev, you might need the sane-extras package
[05:16] <thev> got it
[05:16] <thev> the backend I need to use is called epkowa
[05:17] <thev> I edited the epkowa.conf to match what lsusb tells me about the scanner
[05:17] <antx> I think there must be some settings somewhere, like IP, gateway and such, like under windows too
[05:17] <thev> and I changed /etc/sane.d/dll.conf to reference only epkowa.conf
[05:18] <steveire> I can't be entirely sure, but If you connect it up and run pppoeconf, it should work.
[05:18] <n3storm> sorry
[05:18] <steveire> !pppoe
[05:18] <ubotu> somebody said pppoe was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[05:18] <n3storm> I would like to know what is the parameter for compiling KDE packages for kubuntu
[05:18] <ikochang> anyone know of a channel that i could go to to get iptables info
[05:18] <thev> sane-find-scanner also sees the scanner, but scanimage -L doesn't
[05:18] <n3storm> !compile
[05:18] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[05:19] <nox> Hey, could someone help me? I was playing Free Doom, and it crashed on me, but I forgot what the launch command was, so I cannot killall,.. Can anyone look up the name in Adept'? Free Doom it is called.
[05:19] <n3storm> thev: there is a prob with some scanners cause they need to work with usb kernel module instead of libusb
[05:19] <nox> Hey, no, I have an idea, if I list all processes running, I could kill it. How do I do that?
[05:19] <n3storm> ps ax
[05:19] <n3storm> nox
[05:19] <nox> n3storm: Cheers
[05:19] <antx> I guess this thing is the eth0 in the network settings dialog... it is disabled at the moment and the enable button doesnt change that
[05:20] <n3storm> mmmm
[05:20] <ikochang> nox, or you could go to "system-ksysguard" and kill the process there
[05:20] <n3storm> still can't compile properly the package
[05:20] <nox> ikochang: I cannot, I am in CLI, as my X froze up with the app =|
[05:21] <jamiepedder> thev, try editing the epson.conf file in /etc/sane.d and add the info from lsusb about your scanner to it
[05:21] <nox> n3storm: is there a way to filter the output to anything with the word Doom in it?
[05:21] <ikochang> then ps ax, or top might show you
[05:21] <jamiepedder> ie usb 0x000 0x00a
[05:21] <n3storm> nox: sorry, I am not a CLI master :(
[05:21] <steveire> antx: Yeah, just wait til you've got it connected.
[05:21] <nox> n3storm: Okay, but thanks anyway
[05:22] <PeregrineSky> ps -ef | less
[05:22] <antx> okay, I have to find a cable...
[05:22] <nox> PeregrineSky: will try =)
[05:22] <jamiepedder> then edit /etc/sane.d/snapscan.conf and uncomment the /dev/usb/scanner0 bus=usb line
[05:23] <thev> jamiepedder - I already edited epkowa.conf, which is what it's supposed to use
[05:23] <ikochang> nox, you can also |grep doom after the ps command to find anything with doom in it
[05:23] <thev> why do I need to edit snapscan.conf if I'm not using it?
[05:24] <nox> ikochang: Yup, but it isn't there, so I have bigger problem
[05:24] <jamiepedder> did you edit the other file?
[05:24] <thev> yeah
[05:24] <thev> and I commented out all the other scanners in the dll.conf file
[05:24] <thev> so it's only using epkowa.conf
[05:24] <nox> Okay, I was running a script, which I'd VERY much like to continue AFTER I kill X, and this was running in X.. How can I pull it out to a text terminal?
[05:25] <thev> seems like it's very close to working... there's just something missing
[05:26] <ikochang> nox, don't know about the last bit, but did top show any likely process as doom?
[05:27] <jamiepedder> giz a mo
[05:27] <insanekane> nox: like using screen ?
[05:27] <jamiepedder> ill install the sane-extras on mine and have a mooch
[05:27] <nox> insanekane: I am not using screen
[05:27] <thev> jamiepedder - k den, thanks
[05:27] <jamiepedder> actually i should install my scanner while im at it
[05:27] <jamiepedder> lol
[05:27] <thev> there you go
[05:27] <insanekane> nox, maybe if you do ... the script will keep running even after you kill X
[05:27] <thev> :)
[05:28] <bkn> hi, does kde use LAME to encode mp3s from the audiocd:/ ioslave?
[05:28] <jamiepedder> just not been bothered until now
[05:28] <nox> Hm.
[05:28] <jamiepedder> watch me run into probs now
[05:28] <thev> hahaha
[05:28] <nox> brb
[05:28] <thev> not so smart now, eh? :p
[05:28] <antx> okay, cable is in, but no luck. the pppoeconf was scanning but said there might be another pppoe running which made it fail...
[05:28] <thev> of course yours will probably work
[05:29] <thev> just to make me look that much dumber
[05:29] <ikochang> insanekane:  not sure about that.  i thought that all that screen did was let the user log out from the machine while leaving his account logged in and all of his processes running
[05:29] <nox-Hand> Hey,
[05:29] <nox-Hand> I am nox..
[05:30] <jamiepedder> hey thev, u 64 bit by the way
[05:30] <antx> should I disable my wlan for a moment and try pppoeconf again?
[05:30] <thev> no, 32b
[05:30] <thev> there's no way it'll work 64b
[05:30] <jamiepedder> thank god
[05:30] <jamiepedder> i know
[05:30] <jamiepedder> just reading now
[05:30] <steveire> what does ifconfig give?
[05:30] <jamiepedder> lol
[05:31] <thev> I learned that the hard way
[05:31] <thev> lol
[05:31] <thev> (I have X2, so I could run 64b)
[05:31] <steveire> the wlan thing might be worth a shot... What does that link to the wiki say?
[05:32] <nox-Hand> Oh, well, I shall re-start the script X(
[05:32] <nox-Hand> BBL
[05:32] <jamiepedder> nice, wouldnt mind one of them
[05:32] <ikochang> nox-Hand:  is your machine bogged down in any way, or is x just locked on you?
[05:32] <nox-Hand> ikochang: Just this Free Doom, when I died, so did X.
[05:32] <antx> have not checked it yet... ifconfig shows eth0 and eth1 and lo with each a lot of stuff
[05:33] <ikochang> is x still listed in top?
[05:33] <bkn> Hi, is anyone here running dapper on a PPC arch?
[05:33] <nox-Hand> I killed it. Gotta go.
[05:33] <ikochang> k
[05:33] <thev> bkn - I tried it on an old imac but damn it was slow
[05:34] <thev> I couldn't even log in it was so slow in kde, gnome ran... kind of
[05:34] <bkn> thev: i was going to see if i cound find someone to reproduce a problem that i'm seeing.
[05:34] <thev> I'm not running it now, sorry
[05:35] <bkn> thev: heh, no prob, thanks anyway. i hope you can find something to run on that old imac.
[05:35] <thev> bkn - I did... OSX ;)
[05:35] <bkn> cool
[05:35] <antx> well, the wiki think seems to be for people without a router. I however use one...
[05:37] <steveire> Well then surely your router takes care of all the pppoe stuff?
[05:39] <antx> what ever pppoe is, under windows it works and the wlan here works too. I just need to enable the eth0 somehow.
[05:40] <antx> is it perhaps that they are conflicting when trying to enable them at the same time?
[05:40] <steveire> ifconfig eth0 up?
[05:40] <HymnToLife> isn't it ifup eth03 ?
[05:40] <HymnToLife> eth0*
[05:40] <steveire> there's a network manager in the repos I think, that handles all this stuff.
[05:41] <steveire> HymnToLife: Possibly. I'm pretty much stabbing in the dark.
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> you need to configure pppd to do pppoe
[05:41] <HymnToLife> h3sp4wn> since he has a router, I don't think he needs pppoe at all
[05:42] <antx> well, perpaps I cant have them active at the same time. wlan and lan I mean...
[05:42] <ikochang> hymntolife:  you're right.  if his router is the machine making the connection, he should only have to activate his eth to the router
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> didn't read it properly
[05:43] <ikochang> antx:  you should be able to.  but i've noticed on my machine that the kde network setup tool doens't exactly work right
[05:44] <jamiepedder> thev, can you send me your epkowa.conf file and lsusb details on your scanner?
[05:45] <antx> well, Ill try if I can enable eth0 when eth1 is off... perhaps its just a conflict...
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> antx: what are you trying to do that needs wlan and lan active at the same time ? you can only have one default route at a time
[05:45] <antx> aha... okay
[05:45] <jamiepedder> also, bad news on my scanner
[05:45] <jamiepedder> it works,lol
[05:45] <antx> that explains it
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> antx: You can bridge / masquarade the lan and wlan
[05:47] <ikochang> antx:  you might want to try webmin.  it's not good for most of the things it says it can do, but i _think_ that it will handle what you want to do
[05:48] <steveire> check out network-manager in adept. I've heard good things.
[05:48] <antx> well aslong as I have at least one running it is okay. just want to make sure I can get online when Im not at home with my rooter
[05:48] <antx> okay, Ill give it a look anyway
[05:48] <jamiepedder> thev, gotta go
[05:49] <jamiepedder> just found this link though, check it out : http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a9826090/en/projects/linux/hardware/epson-3170/
[05:50] <antx> alright... here is the next thing: I have a NTFS partition with windows on my system. how do I access it? :)
[05:50] <ikochang> antx:  is it mounted on boot?
[05:50] <antx> no, not that I know off (not under linux)
[05:51] <antx> how do I mount it ?
[05:51] <ikochang> well, do you want it mounted at boot or just do it manually?
[05:51] <antx> at boot would be nice
[05:52] <ikochang> okay, you'll have to edit your /etc/fstab
[05:52] <steveire> |diskmounter
[05:52] <steveire> !diskmounter
[05:52] <ubotu> diskmounter is, like, to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[05:52] <steveire> I always do that pipe thing...
[05:52] <antx> okay, Ill check this out...
[05:52] <ikochang> will that program edit the fstab automagically?
[05:53] <steveire> ikochang: yep.
[05:53] <ikochang> cool.  learn something new everyday
[05:53] <steveire> It's just a script
[05:54] <steveire> It offered the ability to write my ntfs as well, but then it didn't seem to be able to.
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> To write to ntfs you need captive ntfs
[05:54] <steveire> I don't know why it can't be included in the core of ubuntu.
[05:54] <ikochang> i didn't think that ntfs write was completely worked out yet
[05:55] <steveire> ikochang: That's probably the exact problem. I don't know what captive ntfs is.
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> captive ntfs works but you need some files from windows
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> (But If you have an ntfs partition presumably you have a copy of windows on the drive)
[05:56] <steveire> I'm not really that pushed to write to it either it must be said...
[05:56] <ikochang> i'm out.  later all.
[05:56] <DeBert> Why does Kubuntu use OpenOffice instead of Koffice?
[05:58] <joedoc> DeBert: you can install both.
[05:59] <joedoc> There are koffice packages in the repositories
[05:59] <antx> okay, have to reboot... Ill be back...
[06:01] <stamen81> could anybody try to help for one game
[06:01] <jeff_> hey guys
[06:01] <jeff_> ?
[06:01] <stamen81> I can't launch it
[06:02] <jeff_> what gamE?
[06:02] <joedoc> DeBert: I think the decision to offer OO by default is because it's common for both Ubuntu and Kubuntu.
[06:02] <stamen81> I have download it from loki games
[06:02] <stamen81> it is Rune and FAKK2
[06:02] <steveire> Is koffice better?
[06:02] <jpatrick> joedoc: it's because OOo is more stable
[06:02] <stamen81> but I can't play them
[06:03] <joedoc> jpatrick: probably. I've only use koffice a little, and I use OOo a lot.
[06:03] <jeff_> after upgrading to kubuntu beta, i havent been able to share files with my windows machine on the router. it says that there may be a firewall, but im sure there isnt
[06:03] <joedoc> I'll take your word for that. ;)
[06:03] <jeff_> jpatrick: i like koffice better. open office is flashy but koffice is faster
[06:04] <jpatrick> joedoc, jeff_: KOffice _may_ go into Dapper+1
[06:04] <jeff_> jpatrick: awesome :D
[06:04] <jpatrick> note the _may_
[06:05] <joedoc> I agree with you on the speed but I'm kind of spoiled by OOo.
[06:05] <jeff_> yeah
[06:05] <antx> well... done with rebooting, now, where can I find this ntfs partition?
[06:05] <joedoc> I have to do frequent doc sharing with MS Office users, and OOo does a good job, for the most part.
[06:05] <jeff_> does anybody else have my file sharing problem?
[06:06] <joedoc> jeff_ do you have ssamba configured on the machine?
[06:06] <joedoc> samba
[06:06] <joedoc> samn KB
[06:06] <jeff_> i dont know :S
[06:06] <joedoc> damn KB
[06:06] <jeff_> lol
[06:06] <jeff_> is the config in the kcontrol?
[06:07] <joedoc> jeff_, in order to share files with a windows box, you need to configure your Linux box to do so.
[06:07] <joedoc> yeah, hang on
[06:07] <jeff_> ok
[06:07] <antx> ah found it... its in the media folder...
[06:08] <joedoc> Jeff_ under Internet and networking settings, use File Sharing. You have to be root.
[06:08] <steveire> was just gonna tell you that antx
[06:08] <antx> :-)
[06:08] <steveire> all fine and dandy?
[06:08] <joedoc> I'm assuming you're sharing stuff on the Linux box with Windows?
[06:08] <jeff_> ok
[06:08] <jeff_> yeah i would like to do that too XD
[06:09] <antx> just want my data available under linux and windows... seems to work :)
[06:09] <jeff_> but i would settle for sharing files from my windows box
[06:09] <joedoc> The key is making sure that samba in installed. There's a HOW-TO on one of the sites that details how to set this up.
[06:10] <joedoc> stand by
[06:10] <stamen81> so nobody goes to help  me
[06:10] <stamen81> am I right
[06:10] <jeff_> joedoc: ok i clicked admin mode and put in my pass, and it says im in admin mode but everything is still grey
[06:11] <jeff_> stamen81: dude i think you need wine to try and run those games
[06:11] <jeff_> stamen81: dot hey say that they are good for linux on the site?
[06:11] <stamen81> jeff_, but they are made for linux
[06:11] <jeff_> stamen81: and you have to compile them yourself?
[06:11] <stamen81> they are made to play them in linux
[06:11] <stamen81> no
[06:12] <stamen81> they are compiled
[06:12] <stamen81> and the setup runs
[06:12] <stamen81> and installs the game
[06:12] <stamen81> but after trying to lauch them in konzole
[06:12] <stamen81> the game gives me an errot
[06:12] <stamen81> error
[06:12] <jeff_> whats the error?
[06:12] <joedoc> jeff_: here's the link too Samba and Kubuntu that might help: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29
[06:13] <jeff_> joedoc: thanks man
[06:13] <joedoc> jeff_: here's the link too Samba and Kubuntu that might help: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SettingUpSamba
[06:13] <stamen81> jeff_,  wait I will give you the link from pastebin
[06:13] <jeff_> lol k
[06:14] <joedoc> jeff_: Im guessing that the tools are geayed because you don't have all the samba stuff installed.
[06:14] <joedoc> grayed
[06:14] <h3sp4wn> stamen81: what game ? (If if its civilisation call to power for linux - then I can probably help you)
[06:14] <stamen81> jeff_, http://pastebin.com/701960
[06:14] <stamen81> h3sp4wn, no it isn't
[06:15] <stamen81> it is not civilization
[06:15] <stamen81> h3sp4wn, I have rune and FAKK2
[06:15] <joedoc> jeff_ that pages is kind of Ubuntu specific, since it shows Gnome screen shots, but you can muddle through it.
[06:15] <jeff_> ok
[06:16] <joedoc> Once you get past the installing samaba part, you should be good to go using the KDE tools.
[06:17] <jeff_> stamen81: hmm
[06:17] <stamen81> I can give you the other error from rune
[06:17] <stamen81> if you want
[06:17] <jeff_> stamen81: ok, check if there is a forum for this site, see if there is anything there
[06:18] <stamen81> ok
[06:18] <jeff_> stamen81: email the person witht eh bug report
[06:18] <stamen81> I will give you the other error
[06:18] <stamen81> maybe you can help to solve it
[06:18] <jeff_> stamen81: go to searchirc.com and search for the site or the dame for linux and ask if anybody knows anything there
[06:18] <jeff_> ok
[06:18] <stamen81> ok
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> There old loki games the company does not exist anymore
[06:19] <stamen81> jeff_, this is the other error: http://pastebin.com/701968
[06:19] <antx> so, now playing DVDs. kaffeine says: Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading from DVD. anyone knows what that might be?
[06:20] <h3sp4wn> stamen81: have a look at this http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Running_Old_Loki_Games it will probably help you
[06:20] <jeff_> stamen81: hmm
[06:21] <stamen81> h3sp4wn, 10x I will look
[06:26] <antx> does kubutnu install imediately the right graphics drivers or should I go to www.ati.com and get some from there. (feels a bit slow...)
[06:28] <h3sp4wn> !ati
[06:28] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:29] <antx> thanks... seems I should look there first before asking here
[06:30] <DietrichR> Does anyone know why #kde is not working?
[06:30] <steveire> antx: I sometimes think so, but then again, you have to know what you're looking for, and what you need if you want to set up properly. Have you seen this?
[06:30] <steveire> !mp3
[06:30] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[06:30] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:31] <jpatrick> DietrichR: is here
[06:31] <DietrichR> I get forwarded to ##overflow
[06:31] <jpatrick> odd
[06:32] <antx> seen what?
[06:32] <steveire> restricted formats
[06:32] <steveire> Is this your first linux installation, antx?
[06:32] <antx> erm... you lost me...
[06:33] <antx> I tried suse a few weeks back but just to look at it...
[06:33] <antx> this is the first real atempt
[06:33] <jpatrick> !mp3
[06:33] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[06:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:33] <antx> meaning I really want to use it
[06:34] <jpatrick> ^see the link above
[06:34] <ruisu> hi
[06:35] <antx> erm, is the mp3 stuff here for me? I never asked for mp3. or did I miss something here?
[06:36] <antx> or has it something to do with the dvd playing problem?
[06:36] <steveire> antx: Most people want to be able to play restricted formats. They are not default playable in linux
[06:36] <steveire> I assumed you might want to see it.
[06:37] <antx> well, at some point I will want to play mp3s but one step at a time... ;-)
[06:39] <ruisu> hey, i tryed to install the deb of aarok-xine, but it sais kdelibs4 is not installed
[06:39] <ruisu> but i do have them installed
[06:40] <ruisu> :(
[06:42] <jpatrick> !pastebin
[06:42] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:42] <jpatrick> ^post error there
[06:43] <antx> oh boy, I just realize ubotu is a bot... :-)))
[06:44] <ruisu> mhm
[06:45] <Blissex> ubotu: how are you today?
[06:45] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Blissex
[06:46] <ruisu> hmm
[06:46] <m5m> I just downloaded the latest eclipse (not in the repos) and am able to run it right out of the freshly un-tarred directory without any installation at all.  Is there any good reason why I should 'install it'
[06:51] <Blissex> m5m: well, several, but for things like that just putting it into '/usr/local/eclipse' is good enough, if you know what you are doing...
[06:52] <ruisu> iso
[06:52] <ruisu> with pastebin the lines get together?
[06:57] <bkn> hi all. is there a way to recompile a kubuntu package, say kdebase,  if i want to make a source change? i don't want to install from source and have files scattered about my system.
[07:00] <steveire> lavaps is interesting
[07:00] <steveire> What port does adept use? It's not 80?
[07:00] <steveire> any way to change it?
[07:01] <steveire> I'd like to be able to it in college, where there's a proxy, and I have to use 8484
[07:01] <taylor> can anyone help me? I'm having trouble installing kubuntu.. it's getting frozen
[07:02] <steveire> at what point, taylor
[07:02] <steveire> ?
[07:02] <taylor> one sec.. let me start the install again
[07:02] <roniez> the DVD version froze for me to... i had to download the CD version.
[07:02] <insanekane> steveire: you have to you APT HTTP Proxy
[07:02] <taylor> so I get the "to install the default, hit enter"
[07:02] <taylor> and I hit enter
[07:03] <taylor> and I get lines of code
[07:03] <taylor> and the last thre lines are:
[07:03] <insanekane> steveire: the second you should be 'use'
[07:03] <steveire> insanekane: Do I need a package?
[07:03] <insanekane> steveire: nope
[07:04] <steveire> !apt proxy
[07:04] <ubotu> steveire: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:04] <insanekane> steveire: there is a howto on the net ... google for it ?
[07:04] <steveire> windmill?
[07:04] <steveire> I'll have a look insanekane. Chairs.
[07:04] <insanekane> chairs ?
[07:04] <taylor> [4294671.120000]  PCI: Using configuration type 1, [4294671.120000]  mtrr: v2.0 (20020519), [4294671.121000]  ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050729, and then the cd drive stops spinning, and nothing happens
[07:05] <taylor> all I have is a blinking cursor
[07:05] <steveire> Irish accent. cheers.
[07:05] <steveire> :)
[07:05] <steveire> !apt_proxy
[07:05] <ubotu> well, apt_proxy is for Apt via a http proxy, make a file called apt.conf in /etc/apt and put this in it...     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://PROXYADDRESS:PORT";
[07:05] <h3sp4wn> steveaire: I don't know about adept but apt-get / aptitude respect "export http_proxy=http://192.168.1.2:8080" for example
[07:06] <taylor> any thoughts?
[07:06] <steveire> taylor: tell the type of computer, and the likes. It's breezy? Did you check the cd?
[07:07] <taylor> hrm.. the cd verified when I burned it
[07:07] <taylor> type of comp: pentium III, a sony vaio
[07:07] <steveire> I'll try that stuff. I assume if it works with apt-get, it'll work with adept.
[07:07] <taylor> i'm trying to do just 'server' now, and I get the same stop point
[07:08] <steveire> taylor: I don't know. Have you searched the forums?
[07:09] <taylor> maybe this means something: "checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (no cpio magic); looks like an initrd [...]  ACPI: looking for DSDT in initrd... not found!
[07:09] <antx> are you sure it is frozen? how long did you wait?
[07:09] <taylor> hrm.. 10 minutes
[07:10] <antx> well, thats too long indeed...
[07:10] <taylor> and I don't hear the trademark "cpu clicking"
[07:10] <taylor> maybe I should try ubuntu instead
[07:12] <antx> I installed kubuntu from dvd just yesterday night and it worked...
[07:13] <taylorishere> alright.. i'm back
[07:13] <taylorishere> so would ubuntu maybe be a better place to start?
[07:15] <TheNightRider``> im back with problems
[07:15] <TheNightRider``> lol
[07:16] <TheNightRider``> when i log into icq with Kopete, Kopete crashes
[07:18] <alec> hello
[07:18] <alec> I have a quick question this is my first day using kubuntu, am i in the right place for a bit of help?
[07:19] <Blissex> alec: yes.
[07:19] <Blissex> alec: ideally the right place is the Wiki, but here too :-)
[07:20] <alec> ok here goes, in the terminal window I can enter su root, and when prompted for the root password i enter it and get root as part of the prompt so I am guessing that the user switch worked however anything in the gui that requires root priviliges when prompted for password, it doesn't let me log in as su
[07:20] <Blissex> !root
[07:20] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:22] <steveire> Does that work in any other linux distro, alec?
[07:22] <alec> which the su root?
[07:22] <Blissex> alec: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:23] <steveire> su in a terminal, any your session becomes a root session. I thought you'd have to log out, and log in as root
[07:23] <alec> blissex, i was just reading that page, seems that i should just use the user password
[07:23] <Blissex> alec: not quite: you should just use 'sudo' not 'su'
[07:23] <steveire> any should be and
[07:25] <alec> blissex, but i don't type sudo when prompted in the gui, just the p-word for the logged in user correct?
[07:26] <alec> blissex when doing the above i get conversation with su failed
[07:26] <jpatrick> alec: for GUI use: kdesu
[07:26] <Blissex> alec: as the page says clearly, in Ubuntu/Kubuntu you must use 'sudo'.
[07:27] <alec> blissex, i understand that, I'm just clicking the admin button at the bottom of the adept window in order to be able to install some other packages, and I'm having trouble, the Run as root KDE su <2> window gives me the converasation with su failed error
[07:28] <Blissex> alec: the use 'sudo' to assign a password to 'root', as in : 'sudo passwd root'
[07:28] <steveire> alec: You use the password you made at installtime
[07:28] <steveire> hmmm
[07:29] <steveire> I just installed 3ddesktop. Looks interesting, but doesn't seem to work
[07:29] <steveire> Is it only for a gnome desktop?
[07:33] <TheNightRider``> steveire: yeah only for gnome
[07:33] <TheNightRider``> doesnt work for me either
[07:33] <steveire> hmmm. Just looking for some neat desktop apps atm.
[07:35] <Seantater> no -- not only for gnome.
[07:35] <Seantater> I used 3ddesktop of kde
[07:35] <Seantater> not a shred of gnome on it
[07:35] <Seantater> of cource-- I don't remember how I got it there..
[07:36] <steveire> of course.
[07:36] <aegis> hey, how would I go about getting gcc on kubuntu? I've been smashing my head against a wall for two hours trying to make it work, with no luck
[07:36] <steveire> I'm not too interested specifically in that, just looking for some neat apps
[07:36] <Seantater> aegis: install build-essential
[07:37] <aegis> I installed from the latest live cd, so is it too late for that?
[07:37] <steveire> alec: your password issues sorted?
[07:39] <Seantater> aegis: I don't understand -- you installed it on a live cd?
[07:39] <aegis> yeah
[07:39] <aegis> I booted up from cd, and there was an installer on the desktop
[07:39] <aegis> I installed from that
[07:40] <alec> nope kde su returned with error window keeps returning
[07:40] <remnon> hey, anyone having a similar problem ? i updated my KDE thorough adept with a sources list i got from the sources list generator, and followed an instruction in Wiki on how to get ATI drivers working properly
[07:42] <remnon> well, now that i did that, i changed the driver-line in xorg.conf from ATI to FGRLX and it botched the picture on my screen but the image that i saw on my TV was normal and crisp
[07:42] <remnon> any idea what i might've done wrong ? O_o
[07:42] <Flosoft> hey
[07:42] <Seantater> on your tv?
[07:42] <remnon> yeah
[07:42] <Seantater> Flosoft: hello
[07:42] <h3sp4wn> remon: You added fglrx to the bottom of /etc/modules ?
[07:42] <Seantater> remnon: Okay -- you have a tv attached to your computer -- new to me..
[07:42] <Flosoft> Riddel: should I host the Beta2?
[07:43] <remnon> heh, TV out on the card is a handy thing :p
[07:43] <Seantater> remnon: perhaps I should be quiet and not so annoying
[07:43] <remnon> eh ? O_o
[07:43] <remnon> h3sp4wn:  nope, not yer
[07:43] <remnon> yet *
[07:44] <remnon> well, it's there anyways
[07:44] <remnon> didn't touch it
[07:45] <h3sp4wn> remnon: you may or may not need Option      "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" under device (in the section with Driver     "fglrx")
[07:45] <remnon> ah.. ok
[07:47] <aegis> okay, I have downloaded both gcc-4.1.0.tar.bz2 (and unzipped it) as well as a bunch of rpm's to install gcc/binutils/glibc/kernelheaders onto my desktop; where do I go from there?
[07:47] <aegis> gcc doesn't show up in the adept installer
[07:48] <crimsun> ...
[07:48] <crimsun> why not install build-essential?
[07:48] <crimsun> do you have the main repo enabled?
[07:48] <aegis> how do I do this?
[07:49] <aegis> and what do you mean by main repo?
[07:49] <crimsun> I'm not familiar w/ Adept, but you need an uncommented main line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:49] <remnon> hmm...
[07:49] <crimsun> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[07:50] <crimsun> or if you're using dapper: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[07:50] <aegis> I should mention I don't have internet access on this computer, I'm trying to get gcc to compile my wireless drivers >.<
[07:50] <remnon> h3sp4wn:  to what form should i add the line Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" into the xorg.conf ?
[07:50] <aegis> (by this computer I mean the linux box, not the one I'm using to chat in IRC)
[07:51] <crimsun> aegis: ndiswrapper doesn't work temporarily?
[07:51] <remnon> just slap it in there ?
[07:51] <crimsun> aegis: what chipset is it?
[07:51] <aegis> it's a usb wireless receiver, Z1211 I think
[07:51] <crimsun> aegis: that's supported afaik
[07:57] <remnon> hmm.. i'll try something
[07:57] <remnon> wish me luck :p
[07:59] <gil> hello
[07:59] <gil> can someone help me with synaptic
[08:00] <gil> got some corruption going on here it wont start
[08:01] <gil> is anyone here t
[08:01] <mrfishhat> apt-get synaptic ?
[08:02] <gil> no i have synaptic
[08:02] <mrfishhat> from a terminal
[08:02] <gil> i have all that
[08:02] <gil> it was working fine....now it wont load up
[08:02] <gil> the GUI
[08:02] <gil> it starts to load and then nothing
[08:02] <mrfishhat> you could use adept to remove it
[08:02] <mrfishhat> and re add
[08:02] <gil> did that removed synaptic reinstalled it from terminal
[08:03] <gil> wont let me access it
[08:03] <mrfishhat> hmm
[08:03] <gil> wont let me access other admin setups
[08:03] <gil> it all happened after i tried to install this theme
[08:03] <gil> didnt like it
[08:03] <gil> now it wont let me access several things either from gnome or KDE
[08:04] <remnon> damnit... it still doesn't work... :(
[08:05] <remnon> the picture on my disp goes all white, and extremely out of contrast
[08:05] <remnon> while the picture on the TV remains really crisp and great
[08:05] <gil> what is the config file that loads up synaptic
[08:05] <gil> i think mine got screwed ujp
[08:05] <gil> anyone?
[08:06] <mrfishhat> remnon: does yor disp work on another machine?
[08:07] <remnon> yeah, and as soon as i change the fglrx line back to ATI it restores
[08:08] <remnon> so it's not a hardware question
[08:08] <gil> when i click synaptic it asks for password...then hourglass comes on...then nothing
[08:08] <gil> like it cannot start ujp
[08:08] <gil> up
[08:08] <remnon> there's just something in the settings that i can't figure out :(
[08:11] <BlankB> !nvidia
[08:11] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:12] <remnon> !ati
[08:12] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:12] <murph2481> how come my amarok 1.4beta3 doesn't play music? the only thing i can get to play MP3's is VLC??
[08:12] <murph2481> i ask it to play and about 2 seconds later it says playlist complete
[08:13] <murph2481> everything is up to date and I am running dapper beta2
[08:14] <remnon> how can i check my kernel version ?
[08:14] <FauxFaux> uname -a
[08:15] <fatejudger> is anyone here able to use vnc4server in Dapper?
[08:15] <fatejudger> mine breaks on dependencies that aren't available
[08:15] <gil> here
[08:15] <gil> i get this error when i start up synaptic
[08:16] <yacoob> :)
[08:16] <gil> it says... child error
[08:16] <gil> child 1 error
[08:16] <gil> anyoneknow what this means
[08:16] <fatejudger> gil: I'd ask the people in #ubuntu, most of us use Adept here
[08:16] <yacoob> is there any reason for everything EXCEPT amarok playing sounds, on live kubuntu dvd? :D
[08:17] <fatejudger> yacoob: lack of codecs?
[08:17] <gil> ok
[08:17] <humbolt> what is the status of ltsp in dapper?
[08:17] <murph2481> what codecs do i need?
[08:17] <fatejudger> gil: you don't like adept?
[08:17] <humbolt> What version of ltsp is in there? Do we have support for local CDs, USB storage, floppy yet? What about sound support?
[08:17] <gil> no i dont mind adept
[08:17] <yacoob> fatejudger: is there a way to fix it, on live cd? :>
[08:17] <fatejudger> humbolt: when DIDN'T Dapper have support for that?
[08:17] <gil> i just have always used synaptic
[08:18] <gil> and now  something has made its config file corrup
[08:18] <fatejudger> gil: you ought to give Adept a try, you'd probably like it
[08:18] <fatejudger> yacoob: I wouldn't know, I've never used the Live CD
[08:18] <yacoob> Ah. Lemme rephraes that: what package is needed for the codecs?
[08:20] <gil> it wont let me start Adept in root mode either
[08:20] <gil> read-only mode
[08:20] <fatejudger> gil: you have to close synaptic first
[08:20] <antx> okay, I give up on those ati drivers. by all means, this is just too complicated. all those things one has to do...
[08:20] <fatejudger> lol
[08:20] <murph2481> figured it out
[08:21] <murph2481> needed gstreamer
[08:21] <murph2481> :)
[08:21] <yacoob> fatejudger: any hints?
[08:21] <fatejudger> yacoob: like I said, I've never used the live cd
[08:21] <yacoob> fatejudger: like I rephrased, which package contains the codecs?
[08:21] <fatejudger> yacoob: which sound system are you using?
[08:22] <yacoob> xine.
[08:22] <fatejudger> yacoob: win32codecs
[08:22] <yacoob> and libxine-main1 is in place.
[08:22] <fatejudger> !seveas
[08:22] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:22] <fatejudger> go there to get that package if you need it
[08:23] <yacoob> Righto, thanks.
[08:24] <humbolt> fatejudger: in LTSP!!!
[08:26] <remnon> hrmph.. still no luck
[08:26] <remnon> oh well.. i'm too tired to fiddle around with it anymore
[08:26] <remnon> cheers for all the help, you lot :)
[08:37] <ninHer> hi all
[08:37] <remnon> where can you check your KDE version ?
[08:38] <remnon> stupid questions, i know :( but i switched from GNOME to KDE and still trying to get the hang of this
[08:38] <Lorenzod> remnon: in any kde app: Help->About KDE
[08:38] <remnon> ah, cheers
[08:41] <udo> hello guys!
[08:41] <udo> I have a problem
[08:41] <TheNightRider``> udo, what is it?
[08:41] <udo> i installed firefox but it doesn't match my kde theme
[08:41] <Lorenzod> udo: it won't
[08:41] <TheNightRider``> agreed
[08:41] <udo> why not?
[08:42] <TheNightRider``> it just doesnt
[08:42] <Lorenzod> the best you can do is get a "KDE-ish" theme for it.
[08:42] <TheNightRider``> firefox has its own "Theme"
[08:42] <udo> what about other applications like the gimp?
[08:42] <Lorenzod> that will give you KDE-like icons
[08:43] <Lorenzod> udo: for gtk applications, make sure you install the gtk2-qt-engine
[08:43] <Lorenzod> or whatever it's called.
[08:43] <Lorenzod> it uses qt as a rendering engine for gtk widgets.
[08:45] <udo> ok I installed Lorenzod  what's next?
[08:46] <Lorenzod> Go to appearance and themes-> Gtk styles and fonts
[08:46] <Lorenzod> That will be in your control center
[08:47] <udo> it doesn't start
[08:47] <Lorenzod> udo: hm.. same here.
[08:47] <Lorenzod> I guess it might be broken atm.
[08:47] <Lorenzod> Can anybody else confirm this?
[08:47] <ganymed1> hallo
[08:48] <ganymed1> how can i make a shelll script that needs root privileges executable for normal users?
[08:50] <Lorenzod> ganymede1: are you sure you want to do this?
[08:52] <murph2481> so what are people's favorite RSS feeds?
[08:53] <Lorenzod> murph2481: I guess that depends on what type of information you are interested in..
[08:53] <murph2481> um just general tech (already use Digg, Slashdot, Delcious) just wondering what other people use
[08:53] <udo> does anyone have /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html for me?
[08:54] <murph2481> oh yea and engadget and gizmodo
[08:54] <jeff_> hey gangsters
[08:54] <jeff_> Raven301: from toronto are you?
[08:54] <Lorenzod> murph2481: in that vain, how about the register?
[08:54] <Lorenzod> jeff_: "yo, g!" ;-)
[08:54] <jeff_> lol
[08:54] <jeff_> yayuh
[08:55] <jeff_> we run this shit
[08:55] <murph2481> already got it and the inquirer :)
[08:55] <murph2481> maybe i have a good list already just wondering if there was one i was missing
[08:55] <jeff_> whenever i try to transfer files from my windows box in konqueror, the transfer rate always starts high and drops to zero
[08:56] <jeff_> any ideas?
[09:01] <ep> I'm experiencing freeze ups on shutdowns, this just started recently, perhaps after a dist-upgrade.  Looks like it's a problem with the tmpfs. Heres the messages: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/702237  Can someone help?
[09:03] <Lorenzod> ep: those messages about tmpfs don't necessarily indicate anything wrong..
[09:03] <Flosoft> how can I find out what Kernel I am using?
[09:04] <Lorenzod> Flosoft: in a terminal: uname -a
[09:04] <Flosoft> thx
[09:04] <Lorenzod> will give you quite a bit of info on just a single line ;-)
[09:05] <ep> Lorenzod: how do I get to the bottom of it?
[09:05] <Lorenzod> if you just want the kernel version: uname -r
[09:05] <Lorenzod> that is, IIRC
[09:06] <Lorenzod> ep: check your logs if there is anything suspicious there..
[09:06] <ep> Lorenzod: which log do I check?
[09:06] <Lorenzod> I'm not experiencing any lock-ups, but then again, you're using a different kernel
[09:08] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:09] <erov> hello
[09:09] <ep> Lorenzod: I haven't experienced lock-ups for the previous 7 months.  This just started occuring.  And once my comp just froze wouldn't respond to the keyboard ctrl-alt-fl or ctrl-alt-bckspc.  The only thing i knew to do was hit reset.
[09:10] <Lorenzod> ep: hm..
[09:10] <cycus_zwisus> when new kubuntu?
[09:11] <Lorenzod> cycus_zwisus: June 1, or so I hear.
[09:11] <cycus_zwisus> thanks
[09:12] <[1] Peter> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[09:12] <erov> anyone familiar with proper mpeg4 -> mpeg2video (dvd) conversion with ubuntu (or any linux platform really) ?
[09:13] <erov> the output video always displays incorrect length in players and when i go to make a dvd it's ALL mixed up
[09:13] <erov> but if you were to sit there and play it.. in a video player before hand it would play fine
[09:15] <ganymed1> Lorenzod: sorry, was busy for some time... still there? yes, i am sure, i know the risk
[09:18] <ganymed1> how can i make a shelll script that needs root privileges executable for normal users?
[09:19] <Blissex> ganymed1: it is a very bad idea. But do a web search for ''setuid shell script''
[09:20] <corey>          anyone know how to change the color depth (ie to 32bit)
[09:22] <ganymed1> thx
[09:32] <ganymed1> ciao
[09:33] <_pedro> Hi again
[09:34] <_pedro> I still am trying to configure correctly my printer hp psc 1315 all-in-one in Breezy
[09:34] <_pedro> I am going crazy...
[09:34] <_pedro> any help?
[09:34] <ep> The file '/var/log/boot.log' does not exist.  Where is the boot log or how do I get the system to create one?
[09:35] <macd> 'sudo touch /var/log/boot.log'
[09:36] <macd> but K/Ubuntu doesnt have a boot.log in /var/log
[09:36] <macd> try looking at dmesg/lastlog
[09:37] <madewokherd> how do you get root access on a livecd?
[09:38] <Blissex> madewokherd: 'sudo'
[09:38] <madewokherd> you don't need a password?
[09:38] <erov> _pedro: so where are you at in the process?
[09:38] <Blissex> madewokherd: usually not.
[09:38] <_pedro> ok
[09:38] <_pedro> I have probed with hpijs driver
[09:38] <_pedro> but it print very very slowly
[09:39] <_pedro> so I have removed that driver and install (with aptitude) hplip
[09:39] <_pedro> but I cannot add my printer
[09:42] <madewokherd> hmm, can you normally install things on a livecd environment?
[09:44] <Blissex> madewokherd: sort of, if it is a recent Knoppix
[09:44] <macd> madewokherd: well look at the way it works, it runs from the CD, and does not acess the harddrive.
[09:45] <madewokherd> I thought it might write changes to ram
[09:45] <macd> ehhhh, not quite
[09:46] <macd> you could reserve a area of your harddrive for a livecd partition, then install your programs there, but you might run into dependancy problems.
[09:46] <InfraRed> hi
[09:46] <macd> if you want more programs, just install linux and be on with it
[09:46] <madewokherd> that doesn't work well for python modules
[09:48] <viator> i install update-manager and update-notifier but it doesnt seem to notify me i need updates
[09:48] <viator> and i did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade to see if there were any
[09:48] <viator> and there are
[09:56] <antx> !ati
[09:56] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:13] <steveire> Any recommendations for a p2p client?
[10:13] <robotgeek> steveire: which network
[10:13] <robotgeek> apollon is nice, ktorrent for torrent files
[10:13] <steveire> eh, the best one I guess...
[10:16] <Search4Lancer> apollon is the only one I've even seen...
[10:19] <admrl> http://admrl.kollide.net/anti-god.gif if anyone would like an button against godhatesfags.com i made one
[10:20] <robotgeek> admrl: please keep political messages away from this channel
[10:21] <admrl> robotgeek: sorry just trying to get them out
[10:21] <HymnToLife> tiens, qu'il se dmerde
[10:21] <HymnToLife> oops
[10:22] <HymnToLife> my X chat is so damn slow
[10:24] <steveire> I've selected apollon in adept. The description says it needs a gift daemon to be useful, but there isn't one selected. Should I select the gift package myself?
[10:24] <robotgeek> steveire: are you on dapper?
[10:24] <steveire> yes
[10:25] <robotgeek> steveire: please read the documentation in Help -> Kubuntu Desktop Guide (this is covered)
[10:25] <steveire> thanks
[10:25] <inc|freaky> hi all. im using kubuntu dapper on my laptop but it seems that even if i run cpuburn the CPU doesnt step up (switch to higher CPU frequencies) ... is there any solution? its on a Amilo M 1437G
[10:30] <Blissex> inc|freaky: use the 'conservative' governor
[10:30] <inc|freaky> Blissex: what do u mean? sry i dont understand that because im not english ;D
[10:33] <rvfh> sudo modprobe cpufreq_conservative
[10:34] <rvfh> Then use klaptop (the battery icon bottom right) to choose which governor you want...
[10:35] <thev> how can I stop a sudo cat?
[10:45] <antx> does anyone know a kontact related forum out there?
[10:47] <Ballison> could any one help me install linux nvidia graphics drivers, on kubuntu?
[10:48] <robotgeek> !nvidia
[10:48] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:49] <Ballison> ive tried that, i thought maybe it was for ubuntu
[10:50] <robotgeek> should work for kubuntu too
[10:50] <HymnToLife> Ballison> Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the same thing
[10:50] <Ballison> its asks for Synaptic Package Manager, and i have adept
[10:50] <erov> they are based on the same core distribution though.. the desktops are only thing different
[10:50] <Ballison> oh ok
[10:51] <rapchee> hi all
[10:52] <antx> you can install synaptic with adept if you like
[10:54] <robotgeek> Ballison: just do the same thing with adept, instead of synatpic
[10:55] <rapchee> could you tell me how to change the aviable resolutions and refres rates in screen resolutions?
[10:55] <Ballison> i was tryin that, having trouble findin 'Restricted copyright box'
[10:55] <Ballison> (sorry for asking all the time, its my first time on linux)
[10:56] <robotgeek> Ballison: are you on dapper?
[10:56] <rapchee> hey im worse
[10:56] <Ballison> breezy badger
[10:56] <rapchee> its not my first time but still keep asking BP
[10:58] <antx> go to system settings and then select display
[10:58] <Ballison> ok, im there
[10:59] <antx> I was talking to rapchee... sorry
[10:59] <Ballison> ahh, i think that was for rapchee
[10:59] <antx> ;-)
[10:59] <Ballison> haha
[11:00] <antx> on your problem I faild 3h ago myself, just with ati
[11:00] <rapchee> i have system/preferences/screen resolution preferences
[11:00] <rapchee> is it the one i should be looking at?
[11:00] <antx> and there you cant set such things?
[11:01] <rapchee> the problem is i need higher res and refresh rate
[11:01] <rapchee> max is 1024@60hz
[11:01] <antx> wait, you are under gnome?
[11:01] <rapchee> yup
[11:01] <rapchee> i think
[11:01] <carmelo> I to all.
[11:01] <rapchee> hi
[11:01] <antx> oh...
[11:02] <antx> I only know kde
[11:02] <carmelo> I'm looking for s.o. that can help me and my amilo m3438 with my microphone
[11:02] <carmelo> It doesn't work. But for audio and other stuff it's all ok
[11:03] <carmelo> there is s.o.?
[11:04] <orangey> hey al!
[11:04] <orangey> what is skim?
[11:05] <carmelo> ok, Bye!
[11:07] <Ballison> ok, im on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia , @ bullet point 11
[11:07] <Ballison> but im using 64bit
[11:07] <Ballison> so none of the avalable options are there
[11:08] <Ballison> do you recon, ...modules - common, should work?
[11:11] <Ballison> ignore that
[11:11] <Ballison> i did it
[11:11] <Ballison> Is X meaning my pc?
[11:12] <Ballison> in konsole?
[11:33] <Ballison> ...i failed at getting the drivers to work
[11:44] <gebruiker> i have installed ksmoothdock
[11:44] <gebruiker> now I want to do the following
[11:44] <gebruiker> I know i can pass a geometry
[11:44] <gebruiker> i want to put the ksmooth dock ontop of the screen all the way above
[11:44] <gebruiker> is that possible?
[11:46] <gebruiker> or the panel is also good
[11:46] <gebruiker> hello
[11:49] <nagi> hello