[12:00] <NoUse> gnomefreak p
[12:00] <Zoo> Acer Aspire 3610 Series, I would like to be able to be on wireless networks... I would be really happy, other things I can do. just really eh
[12:00] <NoUse> gnomefreak np
[12:00] <zcat[1] > mick: or nano /etc/X11/xserver.conf
[12:00] <mick> zcat[1] , what does that do?
[12:00] <Zoo> well, I know when I did a test, of . Alpha flight, it was ready to configure my wireless network, but since I didnt' have a dam access point ready, it didn't do it.. >_<
[12:00] <zcat[1] > reconfigures X for you..
[12:00] <mitsuhiko> does anybody know how i can move the X11 screen 4px left?
[12:00] <zcat[1] > It's a little safer than editing the config by hand usually
[12:01] <mitsuhiko> my notebook displays the visible area a bit wrong :(
[12:01] <Zoo> btw, Ubuntu, needs to give the user, the option during install what services to turn on, what to stop :P
[12:01] <Zoo> lol
[12:01] <Zoo> well. .us laptop users need to team up :P
[12:01] <Lenny1729> Hi there, has anybody managed to get quicktime 7 movies to work in firefox?
[12:01] <Zoo> I go to a college, so gettin other support. Enterprise wide, I could start up,
[12:01] <gnomefreak> Zoo: it does if you use the right installer ;)
[12:01] <Zoo> lmao
[12:01] <Zoo> bs :P
[12:02] <Zoo> expert probably lol
[12:02] <Zoo> :P
[12:02] <jeff303> Lenny1729, they work for me sometimes
[12:02] <Zoo> how ya been gnomefreak ;)
[12:02] <anacelia> hi
[12:02] <g0dchild> is it possible to write to ntfs safely on ubuntu?
[12:02] <Zoo> I better, not enter alot, I migth get told from the half way, 1% of Artificial Intelligence Hee
[12:02] <slvmchn> what program do i use to burn ISO's onto cd?
[12:02] <Zoo> bot* :P
[12:03] <g0dchild> if so, whats the upgrade i'd need? dapper or the kernel?
[12:03] <mneptok> g0dchild: you're better off installing the ext3 driver for Windows
[12:03] <gnomefreak> slvmchn: in windows or ubuntu?
[12:03] <slvmchn> gnomefreak: ubuntu
[12:03] <mitsuhiko> slvmchn: nautilus
[12:03] <Lenny1729> jeff303, does http://www.isnichwahr.de/redirect10321.html  work for you?
[12:03] <mitsuhiko> right click on a .iso and burn
[12:03] <Zoo> hey, when I did my custom, ReiserFS 4, I found out rough time with ubuntu :P
[12:03] <slvmchn> oh snap
[12:03] <g0dchild> mneptok, i use reiserfs
[12:03] <Zoo> must not be ReiserFS 4 ready yet :P
[12:03] <gnomefreak> slvmchn: you can use gnomebaker or k3b   k3b imho is easiest
[12:03] <mneptok> g0dchild: eeeek!
[12:03] <mitsuhiko> gnomefreak: nautilus :)
[12:03] <Zoo> oh?
[12:03] <g0dchild> is that a bad thing?
[12:03] <Lenny1729> slvmchn or you use graveman
[12:04] <gnomefreak> mitsuhiko: that too but i have heard people having issues with it
[12:04] <g0dchild> heh
[12:04] <Zoo> I don't think the kernel is all compatible, eh
[12:04] <eod_punk> nickrud: thanks for the grub help
[12:04] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[12:04] <Zoo> at least for, the ubuntu breezy badger build ;)
[12:04] <mitsuhiko> gnomefreak: yeah. but fewer issues than using graveman :)
[12:04] <jeff303> Lenny1729, do you have a direct link to the mov?
[12:04] <mneptok> g0dchild: IMO, yes. ReiserFS does not work as well as advertised, and there are far more toold for ext2/3 than Reiser
[12:04] <Zoo> however, it might jsut be my experience
[12:04] <mitsuhiko> (or gnomebaker)
[12:04] <jeff303> Lenny1729, it seems their popup thingie is not firefox compatible
[12:04] <Zoo> hee
[12:04] <Zoo> mneptok:  , in time eh :)
[12:05] <mneptok> ahoy Zoo
[12:05] <mitsuhiko> never had an issue
[12:05] <Zoo> you guys not going kick me out again are ya.. :)
[12:05] <Lenny1729> jeff303, http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac_ads1/viruses_480x376.mov
[12:05] <g0dchild> mneptok, hmm...guess I am a victim then...i switched to it believing that file creation was faster for reiserfs
[12:05] <Zoo> ubuntu, suppose to be humanity to others now.. ;)
[12:05] <cap_> I would like to profile the kernel with oprofile, and this being my first ubuntu install I can't seem to find a way to get a vmlinux file (short of rebuilding a kernel of my own...) any ideas?
[12:05] <high-freq> Zoo: u havein probs wit wireless?  me 2...join the club..hehe
[12:05] <Zoo> hee
[12:06] <Zoo> not on Windows XP Pro, or Vista :P
[12:06] <leagris> Hi all
[12:06] <nickrud> eod_punk, np
[12:06] <mneptok> g0dchild: acutually, according to benchmarks i trust XFS is fastest. but that's of little importance if you don;t have recovery tools.
[12:06] <Zoo> however, Vista is a complete waste of my time though, I use Windows XP Professional, for my 3d CAD Modeling software, graphics etc, Rhino3d, maxon, and my dj software,
[12:06] <high-freq> ya...know what u mean...i have mine detected but it aint gettin an ip from my wireless router which is unsecured right now
[12:06] <imonkey> do i need to install a driver because i have a LCD?
[12:06] <Zoo> oh and, 1 of my favorite, peer to peer's, I'm a part of, Filetopia
[12:06] <g0dchild> mneptok, there's the reiserfsprogs
[12:06] <leagris> What is best suitable to authenticate against WinDC? pam_winbind or pam_krb5?
[12:06] <Zoo> ah
[12:07] <Zoo> so, your seeing the light blink?
[12:07] <Zoo> o_O
[12:07] <slvmchn> my problem nautilus is having is it tells me to put in a blank cd when there's already one in there
[12:07] <high-freq> no mines a builtin wireless
[12:07] <Zoo> mine too
[12:07] <high-freq> i have no light on this HP
[12:07] <Zoo> I also..took apart this 2wire, for dSl, and got a pcmcia out of it hee,
[12:07] <nickrud> imonkey, not for the lcd, but you might need to ensure you're using the right driver for your chip, and set the HorizSync & VertRrefresh in xorg.conf, and if you're using an 855 or 915 or the like use a utility
[12:07] <jeff303> Lenny1729, nope that one doesn't open for me, but others have
[12:07] <mneptok> g0dchild: yes, but no Reiser driver for other platforms. and the toolset for ext* is much deeper than for any other FS.
[12:07] <slvmchn> do i need to tell nautilus which drive to use?
[12:08] <Zoo> but I doubt its more powerful than, my, Mobile Intel 910GML Express chipset with integrated graphics; 802.11b/g WLAN
[12:08] <jeff303> !tell Lenny1729 about restricted
[12:08] <high-freq> ya ;)
[12:08] <gnomefreak> slvmchn: its installed with gnome
[12:08] <imonkey> nickrud: oke thanks ill look it up
[12:08] <mneptok> g0dchild: FS choices are often a matter of preference that degrades into religion. bear in mind all this is only my opinion.
[12:08] <MrMaDSeN> jeff303: thnx.. but how do i actually make a new selection in reconfigure locales... cant get that little star "thingy" to move
[12:08] <teimu> when i ssh into a box, will all my internet related operations go thru that?
[12:08] <Lenny1729> jeff303, i have installed libquicktime and w32codecs
[12:08] <Zoo> however, my cousin, is a network engineer, and he told me get a belkin pre n, however, this guy, who runs Slackware, I know, wel, aquanitance, he said, get an orinica, something
[12:08] <Zoo> :)
[12:08] <chaos_of_apocaly> how do i close open ports in linux???
[12:08] <gnomefreak> slvmchn: naultilus is the file system manager for gnome
[12:08] <high-freq> i just can't seem to get an ip from dhcp or static
[12:08] <high-freq> so i dunno
[12:08] <jeff303> Lenny1729, well then I have no idea sorry
[12:08] <nickrud> imonkey, !fixres is a place to start looking for that info
[12:08] <nickrud> !fixres
[12:08] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:08] <squiddle> chaos_of_apocaly  stop the service which is listening on it
[12:08] <Zoo> sad eh
[12:08] <high-freq> i dunno what i'm missing...i have the drivers set..and its in iwconfig
[12:09] <Zoo> looks like we need to team up eh
[12:09] <jeff303> MrMaDSeN, hmm... try selecting the star you want and pressing space
[12:09] <gnomefreak> chaos_of_apocaly: firestarter?
[12:09] <chaos_of_apocaly> no
[12:09] <jeff303> MrMaDSeN, that worked for me anyway
[12:09] <high-freq> hehe ;)
[12:09] <Zoo> my problem is, 2005 Acer Aspire 3610.. grrrrr
[12:09] <slvmchn> gnomefreak: i know all that but it asks for a blank cd when i give it one
[12:09] <chaos_of_apocaly> firestarter is afirewall isnt it??
[12:09] <slvmchn> i can burn audio cds with serpentine
[12:09] <high-freq> were there any drivers for it...or is it detecting?
[12:09] <chaos_of_apocaly> my process is   ipp
[12:09] <serp> stop hilighting me ;(
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Chousuke: no its a front end to iptables
[12:09] <Zoo> I test with multiple systems.. high-freq, I"m studhying, Artificial INtelligence in programming, so shouldn't be a dam reason I can't do linux
[12:09] <carmen__> hola
[12:09] <nickrud> chaos_of_apocaly, it's a firewall configurator
[12:09] <chaos_of_apocaly> ipp?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> !firestarter
[12:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[12:09] <Zoo> I been using linux systems, for over 2 years now, but just for different things..
[12:10] <Zoo> well. since spring of 2004 anyways
[12:10] <nickrud> chaos_of_apocaly, with some additional goodies, like showing you who's getting denied acces
[12:10] <high-freq> lol
[12:10] <chaos_of_apocaly> so its ok to be listening
[12:10] <Zoo> well I tell ya what we should do.. everyone do a vote on what distributions we should stop supporting , and which to through out :P
[12:10] <Zoo> minimize them.. geesh.. :P
[12:10] <high-freq> ya i've been on nix for awhile..but tryin ubuntu out..and well...i can't seem to get this to get an ip
[12:11] <Zoo> hee
[12:11] <mick> so, lets say i used vi to edit my xorg.config, how do you save / exit?
[12:11] <Zoo> well. in time , we both will get it m8
[12:11] <cap_> chaos_of_apocaly: ipp is the service not the process, right? if so then the process is cupsd, printing.. stop if it you're not dependent on it
[12:11] <nickrud> chaos_of_apocaly, no standard ubuntu service listens to the network by default; sudo netstat -tlp will show you what programs are listneing
[12:11] <high-freq> ya
[12:11] <squiddle> mick  ESC ESC :wq
[12:11] <jeff303> Zoo, umm I'm pretty sure the maintainers of those distros wouldn't care about your vote
[12:11] <bender_> i have a logitech quickcam fusion.. can some one please point me in the right direction for getting this thing to work?
[12:11] <Zoo> I had this.. TEch, he was running Slackware, trying to get it up , he said, ubuntu doesn't have alot of protocols installed, have to  configure alot of things for built in
[12:11] <high-freq> Zoo: is yours at least detecting?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> Zoo: better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:11] <awesometaylor> bender_ look for the linux usb devices site
[12:12] <Zoo> offtopic my tail :P
[12:12] <Zoo> I"m going call up.. Mark Shuttleworth ;)
[12:12] <high-freq> lol ;)
[12:12] <high-freq> me 2
[12:12] <awesometaylor> http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/
[12:12] <bender_> thanks man lemme have a look
[12:12] <Zoo> 8-)
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Zoo: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:12] <Zoo> hey don't post that for me, If I wanted to join there, I would :P
[12:12] <M3ATW0D> can anyone help me with ubuntu, sunray server, and gdm
[12:12] <Zoo> I"m tryin ask about, this pcmcia , and this, Mobile Intel 910GML Express chipset with integrated graphics; 802.11b/g WLAN
[12:13] <Zoo> hey,
[12:13] <Zoo> :(
[12:13] <gnomefreak> Zoo: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:13] <HedgeMage> M3ATW0D: better to just ask your question... then we'll know if we can answer it :D
[12:13] <Zoo> for wireless support.. you guys are not making any sense
[12:13] <mick> squiddle, i get an error, "Hit ENTER or type command to continue
[12:13] <mick> [No write since last change] 
[12:13] <mick> /bin/bash: wq: command not found
[12:13] <mick> shell returned 127
[12:13] <mick> "
[12:13] <gnomefreak> Zoo: read above what you asked
[12:13] <Zoo> on topic, it says, Official ubuntu Support Channel
[12:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mick about pastebin
[12:13] <chaos_of_apocaly> so cupsd is a firewall service or not??
[12:14] <nickrud> chaos_of_apocaly, it's the printer service
[12:14] <carmen__> hola
[12:14] <HedgeMage> chaos_of_apocaly: cupsd is a print daemon
[12:14] <chaos_of_apocaly> how do i deactivate it
[12:14] <Zoo> oh, so now I"m somebody since I got kicked..
[12:14] <chaos_of_apocaly> how do i deactivate it
[12:14] <Zoo> lmao. I could go on so many different workstations at my college right now lmao @ u guys
[12:14] <gnomefreak> Zoo: the kick was a warning
[12:15] <Zoo> lol... let Mark Shuttleworth get ahold of you :P
[12:15] <nickrud> chaos_of_apocaly, for a onetime deactivation, sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop
[12:15] <Zoo> hey gnomefreak, thanks for living by, humanity towards others :P
[12:15] <Linuxking>   lol
[12:15] <Santiago_> Evening
[12:15] <gnomefreak> Zoo: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:15] <Zoo> k
[12:15] <Santiago_> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[12:15] <squiddle> chaos_of_apocaly  cupsd is a printing service
[12:15] <Zoo> am I still welcomed here, once I get, ubuntu certified :P
[12:15] <Santiago_> I get when trying to start another session of X
[12:15] <chaos_of_apocaly> it never starts again rigt
[12:15] <squiddle> chaos_of_apocaly no
[12:16] <chaos_of_apocaly> ?
[12:16] <nickrud> chaos_of_apocaly, why would you want to stop your printer service anyway?
[12:16] <M3ATW0D> does anyone here have sunray server knowledge in ubuntu?
[12:16] <Zoo> hey high-freq, you got skype?
[12:16] <chaos_of_apocaly> i dont use it
[12:16] <cap_> chaos_of_apocaly: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop will stop it now, it will start again if configured to do so (next boot...)
[12:16] <squiddle> chaos_of_apocaly  to stop it from restarting you can use the services application
[12:16] <Zoo> hey chaos_of_apocaly, if you install sysv-rc-conf  you can take control of all the runlevels, servicing,
[12:17] <chaos_of_apocaly> how do i install that
[12:17] <chaos_of_apocaly> synaptic
[12:17] <chaos_of_apocaly> ?
[12:17] <squiddle> yes
[12:17] <hachre> hi
[12:17] <nickrud> chaos_of_apocaly, then, sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S19cupsys /etc/rc2.d/K19cupsys (the move is so you can put it back and know what it should be when you do)
[12:17] <hachre> what's the name of the meta package installing the development tools (gcc, make etc)
[12:17] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok
[12:18] <nickrud> hachre, build-essential
[12:18] <hachre> thanks
[12:18] <gnomefreak> hachre: build-essential
[12:18] <MrKeuner> !help
[12:18] <high-freq> Zoo: lol...just goin over these howtos on wiki well....i done did all that and still not gettin ip
[12:18] <gnomefreak> MrKeuner: what do you need help with?
[12:18] <MrKeuner> I would like to remove GCJ
[12:18] <teimu> synaptic offers the openssh-client, which i have, but i want to get the server. however, when i mark it for install, it gives me an error that there is a version mismatch between these two packages. the client is 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4 and the server is 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1. synaptic does not offer matching versions for these two packages. what should i do?
[12:18] <jeff303> MrKeuner, do it through synaptic
[12:19] <gnomefreak> MrKeuner: why not just install java 1.5 and use that
[12:19] <nickrud> MrKeuner, you don't want to remove that at all
[12:19] <MrKeuner> gnomefreak/ I did
[12:19] <MrKeuner> but I would like to completely remove gcj
[12:19] <NetGeek> when I do sudo echo "force_on:0" > /proc/acpi/toshiba/fan, I get permission denined
[12:19] <gnomefreak> but im sure its not gonna go nicely
[12:19] <nickrud> MrKeuner, sudo update-alternatives --config java <-- does that give you a 1.5 choice
[12:19] <gnomefreak> NetGeek: sudo
[12:19] <mick> why is it that i can't make changes in gedit to xorg.conf, and in vi it won't let me save it?
[12:19] <MrKeuner> nickrud/ why would not I
[12:19] <NetGeek>  how can I set /proc, so I can change some settings by hand
[12:19] <carmen__> hola
[12:19] <chaos_of_apocaly> the initd directory is like the regedit key "run" in windows right????
[12:20] <NetGeek> I'm using sudo
[12:20] <NetGeek> bash: /proc/acpi/toshiba/fan: Permission denied
[12:20] <gnomefreak> thats bad
[12:20] <nickrud> MrKeuner, because it's the default support for a lot of stuff. You're in freeland now :)
[12:20] <gnomefreak> NetGeek: what happens with sudo apt-get update
[12:20] <cap_> chaos_of_apocaly: do as suggested, install sysv-rc-conf and run that tool
[12:20] <Minty> back, got iFi working
[12:20] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok i have already done it
[12:20] <chaos_of_apocaly> the initd directory is like the regedit key "run" in windows right????
[12:20] <Minty> *WiFi
[12:20] <chaos_of_apocaly> or not?
[12:20] <NetGeek> gnomefreak, no problems
[12:20] <jeff303> much as I love gcj, unfortunately it doesn't have a lot of stuff implemented correctly yet
[12:21] <cap_> chaos_of_apocaly: kind of, it contains information about what to start in which runlevels
[12:21] <MrKeuner> nickrud/ what does * mean and + mean in update-alternatives?
[12:21] <MrKeuner> * is sun + is GCJ
[12:21] <gnomefreak> * = default
[12:21] <bestial> hi
[12:21] <bestial> i have kubunut 6.06 dapper, and i have /var/log/ with 4Gb with this error: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[12:21] <bestial> why?
[12:22] <hachre> Whats the name of the package I need to install to make "make menuconfig" work?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> + = just there
[12:22] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok thanks,another thing can you tell me how to configure my sound card?is a via
[12:22] <nickrud> chaos_of_apocaly, a quick primer on how ubuntu boots: After the kernel is run, it hands over control to the program init. Init runs /etc/rcS.d (a bunch of links into /etc/init.d/) then /etc/rc2.d (more links into /etc/init.d)
[12:22] <hachre> Must be a curses lib
[12:22] <lili> hola
[12:22] <chaos_of_apocaly> right
[12:22] <slackern> !es
[12:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:23] <mick> how do i make xorg.conf not read only?
[12:23] <lili> hola
[12:23] <nickrud> MrKeuner, * is default, + is what is currently selected
[12:23] <jeff303> mick, why?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> lili: dont change names and do the same stuff
[12:23] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok thanks,another thing can you tell me how to configure my sound card?is a via
[12:23] <mick> jeff303, so i can edit it
[12:23] <mick> jeff303, i want to get dual monitor set up
[12:23] <jeff303> mick, it's safer to just use sudo when you want to edit it
[12:24] <MrKeuner> nickrud/ default for a new user?
[12:24] <jeff303> "sudo gedit /whatever/xorg.conf"
[12:24] <mick> jeff303, explain sudo
[12:24] <MrKeuner> nickrud/ default for a newly added user?
[12:24] <lili> hola
[12:24] <jeff303> mick, it lets you run as root for a single command
[12:24] <mick> jeff303, ah
[12:24] <jeff303> mick, more secure that way
[12:24] <slackern> gnomefreak: oh it's carmen acting as lili :)
[12:24] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:24] <nickrud> MrKeuner, no. Default as defined by the developers for systemwide. What you select is for all users.
[12:24] <bestial> can anyone help me with APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)?? I put noapic in grub but nothing
[12:24] <mick> jeff303,  so like "sudo gedit xorg.conf"?
[12:25] <jeff303> mick, yeah, of course you don't have to use gedit, you could use whatever editor you like
[12:25] <lili> hello
[12:25] <gnomefreak> lili: /join #ubuntu-es    for spanish
[12:25] <chaos_of_apocaly> can someone tell me how to configure my sound card?i cant hear a thing!!!
[12:25] <nickrud> MrKeuner, default for all users at all times
[12:25] <jeff303> mick, but prefacing the command with sudo will give you the temporary permissions you need to actually edit it
[12:25] <chaos_of_apocaly> via technologies
[12:25] <slackern> Hello lili how can we help you?
[12:25] <vinboy> hi
[12:26] <vinboy> how can I test my HD's performance?
[12:26] <mick> jeff303,  well, gedit is all i know right now, vi confuses the shit out of me
[12:26] <jeff303> mick, yeah it's a fun one to learn  :-)
[12:26] <slackern> vinboy: 'hdparm -tT /dev/HARDDRIVEDEVICE
[12:26] <munzir> Hi, how can I know the resolution of my monitor in xorg?
[12:26] <vinboy> thx slackern
[12:26] <nickrud> mick, I'd call you on language, except it's vi :)
[12:26] <MrKeuner> nickrud/ I am confused. If I select soemthing out of the three there, will it be the new default or new current?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> slackern: im getting to think troll
[12:26] <jeff303> nickrud, haha
[12:26] <vinboy> slackern: wat is -tT?
[12:26] <mick> nickrud, sorry, didn't realize i couldn't do that
[12:26] <slackern> vinboy: to test with harddrive cache ON and with cache OFF
[12:27] <vinboy> oh ok
[12:27] <vinboy> thx
[12:27] <vinboy> do I need to replace the T with anything?
[12:27] <nickrud> MrKeuner, when you select a java using update-alternatives, it changes it for all users at all times. It's a system-wide setting
[12:27] <deus> Any dappers here having problem with running the newest amarok version?
[12:27] <deus> It runs with root
[12:27] <deus> but not without
[12:27] <deus> it crashes
[12:27] <slackern> vinboy: sorry it should be 'sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hardrivedevice'
[12:27] <deus> complains about the mysql
[12:27] <gnomefreak> deus: dapper is supported in #ubuntu+1
[12:27] <vinboy> lol
[12:27] <vinboy> ok
[12:27] <vinboy> thx
[12:28] <vinboy> sorry for my misunderstanding
[12:28] <slackern> vinboy: you can run only -t or only -T and try it like that or -tT to test them both.
[12:28] <gnomefreak> is -t off and -T on?
[12:28] <nickrud> jeff303, I use vi(m), I feel his pain (or i did once)
[12:28] <vinboy> i see
[12:28] <vinboy> cool
[12:28] <squiddle> vinboy  please could you type just in one line? it is kind of disturbing
[12:28] <MrKeuner> nickrud/ gnomefreak thanks guys
[12:29] <jeff303> nickrud, yes I think I'm now past the point where having to type "i" to insert text is weird
[12:29] <slackern> vinboy:  -T   perform cache read timings  and  -t   perform device read timings
[12:30] <slackern> vinboy: or just use 'sudo hdparm --help' or 'man hdparm' for more information.
[12:30] <vinboy> ok thx
[12:30] <jeff303> does anyone know of a way to determine which processes are getting HD access?  After a fresh boot I keep getting infrequent accesses on the light but can't figure out what's doing it (no journaling fs)
[12:31] <slackern> jeff303: lsof (short for list open files) might help you?
[12:31] <mick> ok, so i made my edit to xorg.conf, restart to make the changes active?
[12:31] <ChickenFire> Hi folks!
[12:31] <jeff303> slackern, thanks for the tip
[12:31] <nickrud> mick, no reboot necessary. Did you make the change in a virtual console?
[12:32] <slackern> jeff303: there might be tons and tons of output though, so you might want to do  pipe it to less or grep.
[12:32] <mick> nickrud, i made the change in gedit called from a terminal window
[12:32] <nickrud> mick, the simplest way then is to make sure any programs you have open are closed & saved, then hit clt-alt-backspace
[12:35] <nickrud> !moo
[12:35] <ubotu> well, moo is moo
[12:35] <bender_> of course i have the ONE quick cam that isnt the EXACT supported one
[12:35] <siriusnova> if WoW would run on linux it would be aweseome
[12:35] <siriusnova> :(
[12:35] <nickrud> !wow
[12:35] <ubotu> methinks wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[12:35] <gnomefreak> newly fixed ;)
[12:35] <siriusnova> yeah but it runs like crap nickrud
[12:35] <bender_> Logitech QuickCam Fusion... can some one please help me with this driver.. i cannot get this webcam to work... the system doesnt even associate it with /dev/video0
[12:36] <nickrud> I refuse to use wine (it won't run the ONE program I need)
[12:36] <Guest294> hey guys
[12:36] <nickrud> gnomefreak, the winehq ones aren't recent enough?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> nickrud: if i want window apps i would run windows ;)
[12:36] <Guest294> anybody know if i can get kde 3.x to run properly on a p3 500 mhz with 128 mb ram and 16 mb video card?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> ofcourse its not :( brb
[12:37] <nickrud> gnomefreak, when I want to run my one windows app, I run windows (and I turn off the modem)
[12:37] <senectus> I have a web link to a site that doesn't exists anymore, is there some way find an archive of that site ?
[12:37] <yak> hey, I'm having a problem with mplayer, when i go to full screen it doesn't actually resize the video, just the border.  anyone know how to fix this?
[12:37] <jeff303> nickrud, lol
[12:37] <jeff303> senectus, google for wayback machine
[12:37] <gnomefreak> senectus: what site?
[12:38] <nickrud> jeff303, there's a reason for that: I lost the xp install disk
[12:39] <senectus> perfect thatnsk for that jeff303
[12:39] <meisterwinter> so, back
[12:39] <senectus> gnomefreak, found it thanks
[12:39] <gnomefreak> nickrud: are you on breezy?
[12:39] <oklinux> how do I install java in ubuntu ?
[12:39] <jeff303> !java
[12:39] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:39] <nickrud> gnomefreak, currently.
[12:39] <gnomefreak> nickrud: what is latest version on breezy?
[12:40] <nickrud> 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1  <-- gnomefreak
[12:40] <meisterwinter> gnomefreak, can u help me with gproftp?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> :(
[12:40] <nickrud> heh. winehq, I keep hearing about that place for ubuntu
[12:41] <oklinux> thanks jeff303
[12:41] <ENE|Toxic> How do I find out where my usb-harddrive is located in /dev/x? lsusb just tells what bus is active, and dmesg tells me "usb device found at 2" .. Not very informative.
[12:41] <Guest294> anybody know if i can get kde 3.x to run properly on a p3 500 mhz with 128 mb ram and 16 mb video card?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> meisterwinter: not really depends on what the issue is
[12:41] <nickrud> (<Tab> means press the Tab Key) In the directory where you downloaded the sun jre, type sudo aptitude install java-package && fakeroot make-jpkg jre<Tab> . When that's done, type sudo dpkg -i sun<Tab>
[12:41] <jeff303> oklinux, no problem, btw sun jdk 1.5 works GREAT
[12:41] <awesometaylor> Guest294:  look for system requirements
[12:42] <meisterwinter> i cant find gproftpd
[12:42] <ed_> anyone using athlon 64?
[12:42] <meisterwinter> and so, i cant start it
[12:42] <awesometaylor> Guest294  http://kde.org/info/requirements/
[12:43] <awesometaylor> well, i guess that page just shows software requirements
[12:44] <ChickenFire> Guest294: I just installes a PII 400Mhz 256MB RAM with kubuntu and KDE was fine.
[12:44] <ChickenFire> I removed all the eye-candies and animation toys.
[12:44] <ENE|Toxic> How do I find out where my usb-harddrive is located in /dev/x? lsusb just tells what bus is active, and dmesg tells me "usb device found at 2" .. Not very informative.
[12:45] <nagi> ed_ i've installed it on amd64
[12:45] <nickrud> Guest is gone, but don't recommend kde (or gnome) for anything less than 256mb on anything :(
[12:45] <ed_> nagi, firefox is flacky now
[12:45] <whyami> is there a way I can set up kde so I can choose gnome or kde from gdm? I have gnome right now...
[12:45] <nagi> i dont think so
[12:45] <ed_> whaley, its in gnome-session
[12:45] <nickrud> whyami, you should have that under the sessions options already
[12:45] <awesometaylor> i just read it should be able to run on a 300mhz 128mb ram  (for KDE 3.3)
[12:46] <nagi> firefox works well for me...
[12:46] <ChickenFire> mmg ENE|Toxic: type "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages" in a console, unplug and replug your hd and have a look
[12:46] <ed_> nagi, does it close if you go to www.nvidia.com
[12:46] <whyami> nickrud: don't I have to install kde first? If so, how do I do this?
[12:46] <ENE|Toxic> ChickenFire: ok, thanks :)
[12:46] <nickrud> awesometaylor, if you don't mind twiddling your thumbs regularly
[12:46] <nickrud> whyami, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[12:46] <nagi> i'll try
[12:46] <awesometaylor> yeah that whats i thought
[12:47] <nagi> no
[12:47] <ed_> you're lucky.
[12:47] <nagi> i downloaded ff  the latest
[12:47] <whyami> nickrud: thanks! I'm in the process right now...
[12:47] <nagi> the one im using
[12:48] <nagi> works well
[12:48] <ed_> are youusing breezy?
[12:48] <nagi> yes
[12:48] <nagi> (with the latest updates)
[12:49] <nagi> im using flashblocker on ff
[12:49] <mick> ok, lets call that failure/disater recovery #1
[12:50] <siimo> is ubuntu dapper going to support 386 machines still? seems like debian dropped support for 386's in etch
[12:50] <nagi> its name is flashblock
[12:50] <mick> jeff303, can you take a moment of your time and see if you can help me?
[12:50] <nickrud> siimo, troll?
[12:50] <jeff303> mick, sure but I don't know much about xorg.conf (never touched mine)
[12:50] <MetaMorfoziS> i need restart if i re enabled the hplip (hp printing and imaging services)?
[12:50] <nickrud> siimo, sorry, you're right, they're really 486 & up now
[12:50] <siimo> nickrud, haha very funny...
[12:50] <mick> jeff303, well, i am just folowing someone elses example
[12:50] <nagi> siimo : suppossedly yes
[12:51] <Apostle^> MetaMorfoziS: no
[12:51] <mick> jeff303, but i am more or less brand new to linux
[12:51] <MetaMorfoziS> Apostle^: i have connected an hp1100
[12:51] <MetaMorfoziS> via usb
[12:51] <jeff303> mick, I'll give it a shot, what's up
[12:51] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm in kcontrol, the peripherials and printer
[12:51] <MetaMorfoziS> it said "initializing..." for 10minutes ago
[12:52] <MetaMorfoziS> what i need?
[12:52] <MetaMorfoziS> to enable printing?
[12:52] <whyami> nickrud: is installing kde going to overwrite any settings for example in xorg.conf?
[12:52] <corey> anyone know a good wifi manager? ive tried wifi radar and kwifimanager and neither work for me
[12:52] <nickrud> whyami, no, xorg won't be affected
[12:53] <hachre_> hi
[12:53] <Zoo> high-freq: , see ya
[12:54] <RandolphCarter> anybody else having problems switching back to a vtt after loading Xorg with fglrx? (system hangs, so safe halts are impossible)
[12:54] <Zoo> I'm staying away from IRC< like I have been , no need to be around negative energy, I"m going out partying tonight, don't need to ruin my nite, :)
[12:54] <ddonky> anyone get their hp 8200 usb cd-writer working?
[12:54] <crimsun> ddonky: failed pretty horribly for me in hoary, breezy, and dapper.
[12:55] <ChickenFire> RandolphCarter: I had it on my laptop (Ati radeon mobility R250 card)
[12:55] <ChickenFire> I can recommand you the DRI open source driver "radeon". It is fine.
[12:55] <nickrud> heh. It's nice to have my distrust of usb validated :)
[12:55] <RandolphCarter> ChickenFire: find a solution (other than just using the radeon drivers?)
[12:55] <selinium> Hi all, Is there anyone around who can help me get my midi port working or suggest a good channel to pester?
[12:55] <RandolphCarter> ChickenFire: heh, true, but I've got an X800 and I wouldn't mind the glx extensions
[12:55] <crimsun> usb itself is fine, the 8200s are pretty craptacular
[12:55] <ddonky> crimsun - yeah, ive had NO luck with it. works fine with 2.4 kernel distros though
[12:56] <selinium> hi Seveas
[12:56] <selinium> :)
[12:56] <Seveas> quoi?
[12:56] <ChickenFire> RandolphCarter: I found no other solution than throwing this fglrx very far away and bury it.
[12:57] <ChickenFire> comment ca quoi?
[12:57] <Apostle^> ChickenFire: try using the ati prorprietary drivers
[12:57] <codecaine> hey any in here help me out with creating pattern matches in bluefish for syntax highlighting?
[12:57] <RandolphCarter> ChickenFire: :( I'll poke around, gotta be a framebuffer/xorg flag to pass
[12:57] <phoul> Excuse me
[12:57] <phoul> Im truying to use xnest and I cant seem to get it workin right
[12:57] <phoul> I wanna take a screenshot of my gdm
[12:57] <phoul> But I cant make it start gdm
[12:58] <RandolphCarter> tried running xnest :1 from the terminal?
[12:58] <phoul> I get gray
[12:58] <phoul> Thats all
[12:58] <phoul> Its like looking at static on a TV screen
[12:58] <phoul> kinda
[12:58] <Apostle^> thats an xorg problem i think
[12:58] <phoul> umm
[12:59] <phoul> Then how did other people do it
[12:59] <RandolphCarter> hmm, I see what you mean, using dapper beta 2 phoul?
[12:59] <Hubert> Hi
[12:59] <phoul> yes
[12:59] <RandolphCarter> just put b2 on and I've got the same problem - it's probably GDM security - gimme a sec
[12:59] <Hubert> Hi, i'm new to Linux in general I am currently on Unbuntu 5.10 ( Breezy ) can someone help me set up WineHQ on it?
[01:00] <Apostle^> !wine
[01:00] <Hubert> Hi, i'm new to Linux in general I am currently on Unbuntu 5.10 ( Breezy ) can someone help me set up WineHQ on it?
[01:00] <Hubert> Oh, hi. :)
[01:00] <hachre> Hubert: Wine sucks :)
[01:00] <Hubert> Can you help me set up WINeHQ?
[01:00] <Hubert> Well, I want to be able to run my Windows APPS on it.
[01:00] <hachre> Hubert: i recommend using windows for the programs you need it for and linux for the rest
[01:00] <Apostle^> i gave up on wine
[01:00] <Apostle^> i dualboot
[01:00] <hachre> Hubert: : it will never work
[01:00] <ChickenFire> Huber: which software do you want to run under winehq?
[01:00] <phoul> Apostle^, same lol
[01:01] <meisterwinter> huhu, what sould i do to start gproftp? that want i to know about 2 hours here, and the whole day
[01:01] <Apostle^> phoul: :-)
[01:01] <Hubert> But Windows has that STUPID WGA Check, and i'm not gonna buy their expensive software, i'm far to poor.
[01:01] <Apostle^> download the corporate edition
[01:01] <Hubert> That's what i'm usuing
[01:01] <phoul> rip off vista
[01:01] <phoul> XD
[01:01] <Hubert> ( MSDN ) Corprate
[01:01] <Apostle^> eww no
[01:01] <AnsiC> hellp
[01:01] <AnsiC> hello
[01:01] <nickrud> Hubert, search the net for help on your specific app under wine; wine sucks
[01:01] <AnsiC> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[01:01] <Apostle^> XP is the best windows ver
[01:02] <Apostle^> vista is garbage
[01:02] <AnsiC> i has installed using
[01:02] <RandolphCarter> phoul: vista's ruddy awful, stick with XP
[01:02] <nickrud> AnsiC, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:02] <phoul> Apostle^, XP was a step in the wrong direction aswell
[01:02] <Apostle^> phoul: true but, it's the best one
[01:02] <Hubert> But I can't get updates....
[01:02] <AnsiC> not possible
[01:02] <phoul> I use 2000 on one of my boxes
[01:02] <phoul> :P
[01:02] <nickrud> it all crapped out after 1.04
[01:02] <Hubert> Windows stupid "Genuine Advantage"
[01:02] <Apostle^> 2000 is okay except bad hardware support
[01:02] <phoul> meh on this one I have xp
[01:02] <hachre> Hubert: what software do you need
[01:02] <phoul> Dont use it tho'
[01:02] <hachre> Hubert: in windows
[01:03] <phoul> I play my games and stuff on linux aswell
[01:03] <NoobSauce> I've got a system without a cd drive running debian. I was wondering if I could somehow install ubuntu off a mounted iso or something? Anyone have ideas on this one? Google wasn't any help :(
[01:03] <Apostle^> i would play games on linux except the ati drivers suck
[01:03] <Hubert> All my favorite Windows APPS in general :/
[01:03] <Hubert> I was hoping to move to a different OS :/
[01:03] <phoul> Apostle^, I use nvidia and cedega
[01:03] <phoul> :)
[01:03] <Apostle^> lol
[01:03] <hachre> Hubert: well - like what
[01:03] <hachre> Hubert: what do you do
[01:03] <nickrud> NoobSauce, there's a wiki.ubuntu.com page about using debootstrap I think
[01:03] <jeff303> NoobSauce, well you can mount an iso just like a disk
[01:03] <codecaine> I have same problem with Xnest :1
[01:03] <Apostle^> my card owns... with the omega drivers and windows...
[01:03] <Apostle^> haha
[01:03] <Hubert> STEAM, WMP, Winamp EXE's in general.
[01:03] <hachre> Hubert: for alot of stuff there is a good linux alternative
[01:03] <NoobSauce> Apostle^ solution: don't use ati :P
[01:03] <Hubert> And what is that?
[01:04] <Apostle^> NoobSauce: i will know for next time :-)
[01:04] <RandolphCarter> heh, that Omega guy's got a bit of an ego - have you read the about page?
[01:04] <hachre> Hubert: steam = game = wont work
[01:04] <phoul> RandolphCarter, did you ever manage to fix it?
[01:04] <meisterwinter> oh, ok, i cant understand you! not hear/see my posts, bad help, nothing... and thats about 2 hours. whats up buddies.... :-(
[01:04] <Hubert> What is a good Linux alternitive y0u speak of?
[01:04] <Apostle^> RandolphCarter: no but his drivers work GREAT for me, i mean WAY better than the ati ones
[01:04] <phoul> wine for games is horrible
[01:04] <hachre> Hubert: WMP = you can use rhythmbox instead for music or totem for videos
[01:04] <RandolphCarter> phoul: don't seem to be able to :( it's probably deep in gdm.conf somewhere
[01:04] <hachre> Hubert: winamp = rhythmbox
[01:04] <hachre> Hubert: rhythmbox is kinda itunes style though
[01:04] <Apostle^> hachre: no, xmms = winamp
[01:04] <RandolphCarter> Apostle^: they _are_ the ati ones, repackaged?
[01:04] <phoul> RandolphCarter, damn lol I will have to look sometime when I get more ambition
[01:04] <hachre> Apostle^: xmms sucks
[01:04] <hachre> Apostle^: :)
[01:04] <Apostle^> RandolphCarter: i believe they are
[01:04] <phoul> Hubert, easy thing about nix you need to learn
[01:04] <whiter> i forgot which lines i need  to add to sources.list to  install xubuntu again
[01:04] <chapium> ummm, rhythmbox hardly resembles winamp.. other than it outputs sound
[01:04] <Apostle^> hachre: it does, but it is more like winamp than rhythymbox
[01:04] <phoul> Unless its like a game or something
[01:05] <whiter> anyone know what sources i need?
[01:05] <Apostle^> best is amarok ;-)
[01:05] <hachre> Apostle^: true true
[01:05] <nickrud> Hubert, there's several ways of using your windows programs under linux: vmware, lin4win, crossoveroffice, and wine. They're all hacks, except for vmware
[01:05] <phoul> Linux has a substitute
[01:05] <crimsun> whiter: universe
[01:05] <phoul> Usally better to
[01:05] <hachre> Apostle^: just trying to give alternatives ;)
[01:05] <chapium> xmss = winamp
[01:05] <phoul> :)
[01:05] <hachre> Apostle^: i love amarok
[01:05] <chapium> xmms*
[01:05] <Apostle^> me too
[01:05] <ChickenFire> Hubert: for games with wine, you might want to check cedega
[01:05] <phoul> I use audiacious
[01:05] <AnsiC>   build-essential: Dipende: libc6-dev ma non sta per essere installato oppure
[01:05] <NoobSauce> jeff303 I know you can mount isos, but don't you have to boot into the disk? Or can you just run the installer off your hard drive? (didn't work under windows when I last tried that... but will it work in linux?)
[01:05] <AnsiC>                             libc-dev
[01:05] <AnsiC> +
[01:05] <hachre> cedega sucks
[01:05] <whiter> okay, also when i do apt-get dist-upgrade it doesnt upgrade to dapper
[01:05] <hachre> it never works
[01:05] <hachre> :)
[01:05] <Hubert> cedegga?
[01:05] <hachre> whiter: you need to change the lines in /etc/apt/sources.llist
[01:05] <phoul> hachre, works for me so you would be wrong :)
[01:05] <chapium> who needs cedaga when you've got gnobots?
[01:05] <NoobSauce> whiter do you have the dapper sources? or are you still using breezy sources?
[01:05] <whiter> i have dapper all in the configuration file already
[01:05] <hachre> phoul: bah
[01:05] <AnsiC> so today is not possible install build-essential
[01:05] <hachre> phoul: you are lucky ;)
[01:05] <Apostle^> yea that omega guy
[01:05] <AnsiC> normally is possible
[01:06] <Hubert> :S
[01:06] <whiter> i have dapper sources noobsauce
[01:06] <IcemanV9> cedega doesn't work on mine :P
[01:06] <phoul> hachre, no I just got it workin right :P
[01:06] <Hubert> *IS CONFUSED*
[01:06] <hachre> phoul: sure sure :P
[01:06] <nickrud> AnsiC, that sounds like you may have a sources problem, see the following factoid from ubotu
[01:06] <blank> Hey guys, what file do I edit to edit my PATH environment variable?
[01:06] <nickrud> !easysource
[01:06] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:06] <phoul> Hubert, get used to it this place is full of confusion
[01:06] <phoul> XD
[01:06] <Apostle^> windows programs run poorly, if it all on linux
[01:06] <Apostle^> period
[01:06] <blank> Apostle^, such as
[01:06] <NoobSauce> nickrud, that link has been toast for quite some time now
[01:06] <Apostle^> all of them
[01:06] <whiter> i would visit that but i dont havex window installed
[01:06] <phoul> and on that note I am out
[01:06] <phoul> Peace
[01:06] <whiter> and im ircing from a telnet client...
[01:06] <Apostle^> best chance on linux is if you have a fast pc for vmware
[01:07] <nickrud> NoobSauce, I just checked it, it's still there. Seveas is no slouch.
[01:07] <ChickenFire> Hubert: check http://www.transgaming.com for cedega
[01:07] <blank> Hey guys, what file do I edit to change my PATH env. variable
[01:07] <hachre> Hubert: dont try to play in linux
[01:07] <whiter> ill try and fix it myself, bbl
[01:07] <hachre> Hubert: it will drive you nuts
[01:07] <Seveas> nickrud, 'slouch'?
[01:07] <Apostle^> hachre: it sure will
[01:07] <nickrud> Seveas, slang for undependable
[01:07] <blank> Seveas! Hey!
[01:07] <Seveas> ah 
[01:07] <Apostle^> Seveas: or lazy
[01:08] <blank> Seveas, what file do I edit to permanently edit my PATH environment variable?
[01:08] <NoobSauce> nickrud really? I could never access that link... I can't now either...
[01:08] <Seveas> well, lazy I am 
[01:08] <Seveas> blank, on dapper: /etc/profile, on breezy: ~/.bashrc
[01:08] <ChickenFire> blank: you can do it in .bashrc in your home
[01:08] <blank> thanks Seveas !
[01:08] <NoobSauce> nickrud maybe I should post this as a bug or something? Would this be considered a bug?
[01:08] <Apostle^> some idiot
[01:09] <AnsiC> uff  fuck building
[01:09] <nickrud> NoobSauce, if http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic is no good for you, I don't know what to say (I'm no networking dude)
[01:09] <Apostle^> is hitting him self in the head on jeopardy witha pencil
[01:09] <Hubert> Well, say I wanted to take a break from Windows and Games period and start learning flash and photo editing...
[01:09] <Hubert> what is a nice USER Friendly version of linux for that?
[01:09] <psyke83> on the off chance that anyone knows anything about opengl, can someone confirm if GL_TEXTURE_RECTANGLE_NV will not work on an ATI card?
[01:09] <Apostle^> photo editing?
[01:09] <Hubert> Ubuntu?
[01:09] <Apostle^> the gimp
[01:10] <AnsiC> today ubuntu decide to be unstable
[01:10] <tritium> AnsiC: no language like that here
[01:10] <hachre> Hubert: ubuntu is the best distro in my opinion
[01:10] <AnsiC> why?
[01:10] <Apostle^> psyke83: better off in #opengl
[01:10] <Seveas> Hubert, the gimp is quite decent for photo editing
[01:10] <blank> ChickenFire or Seveas, one last question, do I just add a line that says PATH=/my/dir ?
[01:10] <AnsiC> my language is ok
[01:10] <Hubert> Ok so if I wanted to start working instead of playing
[01:10] <Hubert> and try somthing new
[01:10] <Hubert> would you reccomend linux?
[01:10] <Seveas> blank, no, you want: export PATH=/my/dir:$PATH
[01:10] <Apostle^> sure
[01:10] <tritium> AnsiC: no, profanity is not okay here
[01:11] <blank> ah thanks Seveas, that's it
[01:11] <blank> export PATH=/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.1.2/bin:$PATH, right Seveas ? Thanks!
[01:11] <AnsiC> i did not remember some particular word
[01:11] <Seveas> blank, looks ok
[01:11] <whiter> okay, i try to do apt-get install xubuntu-desktop but it says package not found
 uff  fuck building
[01:12] <Seveas> (yes we are being very pedantic when it comes to foul language)
[01:12] <whiter> and also i try apt-cache search xubuntu and it doesnt come up either
[01:12] <AnsiC> fuck is the more normally word in this world
[01:12] <Apostle^> trolltech
[01:12] <Apostle^> hehe
[01:12] <whiter> anyone know why?
[01:13] <NoobSauce> Hubert: If you want to do games or 3d driver stuff, linux can be a nightmare, but if you want to do just about anything else, it is very pleasant to work with - much more pleasant than windows
[01:13] <nickrud> Apostle^, you've missed being foul by a few years :)
[01:13] <whiter> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop doesnt work
[01:13] <Apostle^> nickrud: ?
[01:13] <NoobSauce> whiter, please post your sources.list file
[01:13] <Apostle^> nickrud: excuse me sir?
[01:13] <RandolphCarter> whiter: have you done a sudo aptitude update recently?
[01:13] <Hubert> Ok so, NoobSauce... can I Create Flash Cartoons in Linux?
[01:14] <nickrud> Apostle^, I'm conflating you with a previous post, nothing personal, probably nothing relevant ;)
[01:14] <whiter> noobsauce i would but im not using X so i cant copy and paste anywhere... i did a server install and now im just using netcat to irc
[01:14] <Apostle^> conflating?
[01:14] <NoobSauce> Hubert: dunno... never tried that before... maybe... but I think that's doubtful
[01:14] <Apostle^> that is a new word for me.
[01:14] <Hubert> is ubuntu good for servers?
[01:14] <whiter> and yes i did apt-get update/upgrade and i tried dist-upgrade but that didnt work either... also i changed all the breezy stuff to dapper and added universe but no go
[01:14] <tritium> Hubert: yes
[01:14] <Hubert> such as Quake 3 Servers I heard there is a Linux release of Quake 3
[01:15] <NoobSauce> Hubert: linux in general dominates the server, ubuntu is probably pretty good for it as it is a flavor of linux
[01:15] <RandolphCarter> "changed all the breezy stuff to dapper"?
[01:15] <whiter> in the sources.list
[01:15] <Apostle^> Hubert: it sure is
[01:15] <nickrud> whiter, what kind of error do you get when you do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[01:15] <Hubert> Thanks for all of the support guys.
[01:15] <Apostle^> Hubert: doom3/quake4 run on ubuntu
[01:15] <whiter> package not found
[01:16] <whiter> also it doesnt show up on apt-cache search
[01:16] <nickrud> whiter, could you post the complete error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:16] <RandolphCarter> whiter: it doesn't exist then :)
[01:16] <NoobSauce> whiter, have you done apt-get update?
[01:16] <Hubert> I guess I will just buy a Valid copy of windows XP Home and stop pirating so I can get paste that "Genuine Advantage Crap."
[01:16] <RandolphCarter> you did do an "aptitude update" after changing from breezy to dapper?
[01:16] <whiter> no i cant because i dont have X running or a browser, im using NETCAT and a terminal right now
[01:16] <red_Marvin> Question: I have a couple of program launcher icons on my gnome-panel, but I want to change icons to some I've made myself...
[01:16] <nickrud> Hubert, wise choice.
[01:16] <whiter> yes i did whoever asked if i did aptitude update
[01:16] <NoobSauce> Hubert, paste what genuine advantage stuff? you can do without that
[01:17] <Hubert> Is it possible to buy a OEM edition of XP Home?
[01:17] <red_Marvin> ...but when I try to select the image-files they are all greyed out. Why?
[01:17] <Apostle^> Hubert: just use a corporate edition no cd key
[01:17] <whiter> know what, nevermind im not getting any help here... bye.
[01:17] <Hubert> I refuse to pay like 140.
[01:17] <nickrud> whiter, there's a script at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin that will let you paste from a console
[01:17] <RandolphCarter> whiter: unless we can see a copy of your sources.list, there's not much we can do
[01:17] <Hubert> I'm usuing corprate now, and i'm having issues with windows validation.
[01:18] <RandolphCarter> whiter: can you netcat it to a machine that has X?
[01:18] <Apostle^> he left randolph
[01:18] <NoobSauce> Hubert use this: http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3389131
[01:18] <RandolphCarter> waa? ahh.  new XChat, not used to it yet :P
[01:18] <cdehaan> How can I enable suspending in Ubuntu?
[01:18] <NoobSauce> Hubert why do you need windows validation?
[01:19] <nickrud> RandolphCarter, dapper? (xchat original is available)
[01:19] <Hubert> it wont let me get updates
[01:19] <pax> cdehaan: power management
[01:19] <Hubert> without passing the validation
[01:19] <tritium> cdehaan: uncomment line 2 in /etc/default/acpi-support as a start.  Other tweaking may be necessary, depending on your hardware.
[01:19] <RandolphCarter> nickrud: yeah, seems pretty nice now it's out of the flights
[01:19] <tritium> cdehaan: you're talking breezy, I assume?
[01:19] <cdehaan> pax: OK... I realize the idea is called Power Management...
[01:19] <cdehaan> tritium: 5.10
[01:19] <RandolphCarter> nickrud: just got a problem I've been having with fglrx since breezy to fix now :(
[01:19] <tritium> cdehaan: ok
[01:19] <nickrud> RandolphCarter, it was supposed to be released on my birthday, I'm still crying
[01:20] <RandolphCarter> :P
[01:20] <NoobSauce> Hubert don't update then :) Just run anti-virus and anti-spyware stuff as well as a good firewall and you should be ok for a couple months
[01:20] <tritium> cdehaan: /etc/default/acpi-support is the main file you'll need to tweak (e.g., many have to disable posting video)
[01:20] <Apostle^> Hubert: just set it for automatic updates
[01:20] <Apostle^> you will still get the security updates
[01:20] <Apostle^> and get kaspersky antivirus it is the best.
[01:21] <Apostle^> O&O defrag is a must also
[01:21] <tritium> Please make sure we're not talking about unlicensed or pirated versions of windows here...
[01:21] <zcat[1] > wtf? #windows ?
[01:21] <cdehaan> tritium: Ok. And what will control when this happens? I know FC5 has a GUI tool for it, which is what I'd like :)
[01:21] <Apostle^> never
[01:21] <nickrud> RandolphCarter, ati is something that (thankfully) I know nothing about
[01:21] <tritium> cdehaan: both your hotkeys, and options on gnome logout
[01:22] <tim__> Would anyone know how to force users to logout? I have set logon time restrictions in time.conf but this does not force logout
[01:22] <RandolphCarter> nickrud: I keep meaning to buy nvidia, but this card was too good/cheap to pass on :(
[01:22] <fabytes> hi ppl, does anyone knows how do I change my connection password? I use pon dsl-provider to connect on the internet
[01:23] <nickrud> RandolphCarter, as long as it isn't a really recent ati card, I'd try just using the provided ubuntu stuff. see !ati
[01:23] <nickrud> !ati
[01:23] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:23] <NoobSauce> does anyone know how to install ubuntu from within another distro (debian)? I don't mean to set up a chrott env, I actually want ubuntu to write over this distro... I have no CD drive on it, so it has to be some sort of ubuntu net install or iso install or something
[01:23] <RandolphCarter> nickrud: really recent :( radeon works fine, but I don't like to see xine/xorg doing so much work when playing a vid
[01:24] <Apostle^> in a world that's cold and ugly
[01:24] <tritium> !install
[01:24] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[01:24] <nickrud> debian/ubuntu provides warmth
[01:24] <Apostle^> undernearth the skin and jewelry
[01:25] <tritium> NoobSauce: see the advanced installation methods on that wiki page
[01:25] <nickrud> the developers provide the bone
[01:25] <mick> i just installed the ati drivers, and i get the icon in the app menu, but when i click it, nothing happnes, any thoughts?
[01:25] <serp> I use Windows. What are the advantages of migrating to Ubuntu?
[01:25] <pulver> anyone using window maker here?
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> serp: chicks love it
[01:26] <Apostle^> RandolphCarter: lol
[01:27] <RandolphCarter> serp: seriously though, I guess it's cheaper and it's probably more legal than the copy of windows you have now, and it's great if you program
[01:27] <serp> why is it great if I program?
[01:27] <Apostle^> legal shmegal
[01:27] <starman> hi to all
[01:27] <Apostle^> lol
[01:27] <RandolphCarter> ahh :)
[01:27] <tritium> Apostle^: we keep it legal here
[01:27] <Apostle^> anything is legal if you don't get caught
[01:28] <tritium> nope
[01:28] <nickrud> the real advantage of linux, if you take the time to learn how to read it, is the transparency of everything. You wanna know how your usb device is mounted and identified? Well, it changes month to month, but it's all readable
[01:28] <starman> ehem
[01:28] <Apostle^> sure it is
[01:28] <RandolphCarter> Apostle^: you're the attorney from Arrested Development!
[01:28] <Apostle^> haha
[01:28] <tritium> Apostle^: that's entirely untrue.  Please stop
[01:28] <Apostle^> i'm going to be so crooked
[01:28] <Apostle^> :-p
[01:28] <starman> anyone with amd64 and compiz running?
[01:29] <serp> I just wanna use my os to run things, I don't wanna fiddle around with it.
[01:29] <serp> maybe linux is not for me then?
[01:29] <RandolphCarter> serp: linux probably isn't for you yet then *shrugs* (flame me, but it's true)
[01:29] <tritium> serp: ubuntu doesn't require much fiddling
[01:29] <Apostle^> serp: linux is all about fiddiling
[01:29] <ompaul> serp, you can choose to fiddle or not fiddle
[01:30] <serp> and if I choose to not fiddle, are there any advantages?
[01:30] <RandolphCarter> can we stop saying fiddle?  it's a bad word to choose
[01:30] <tritium> ompaul: is that "the question"?
[01:30] <starman> ok I take for granted you are not very minimalist otherwise you wouldnt be using ubuntu, then how come no one here has compiz running?
[01:30] <rabbitear> serp, if you don't wanna fiddle, stay with windows
[01:30] <Nullified> !samba
[01:30] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[01:30] <serp> all righty
[01:30] <RandolphCarter> starman: I'll run it, as soon as I get ruddy fglrx working
[01:30] <serp> fair enough :)
[01:30] <NoobSauce> serp yeah, of course. Linux is stable, faster, requires less maintenance, and much more secure
[01:30] <ompaul> tritium, no that is the fact :)
[01:30] <starman> ruddy fglrx??
[01:30] <pulver> you don't have to fiddle with stuff in windows?
[01:30] <tritium> :)
[01:30] <Apostle^> i dont have compiz running because i don't need the eye candy
[01:30] <starman> what is that RandolphCarter
[01:30] <NoobSauce> serp not to mention stuff is generally free and easier to install/find
[01:31] <Apostle^> and because it is buggy and slow
[01:31] <rabbitear> windows is a put off of fiddling...
[01:31] <serp> I dunno... maybe I just had bad experiences
[01:31] <RandolphCarter> starman: ruddy = nice way of saying bloody, and fglrx = glx enabled ATI drivers (for my X800 at least)
[01:31] <rabbitear> you fiddle later when everything brakes down.
[01:31] <Apostle^> the problem with fiddiling in linux is that
[01:31] <NoobSauce> Apostle^ you may think you don't need the eye candy, but once you install it, you will be addicted for life
[01:31] <Apostle^> everything is so connected
[01:31] <Apostle^> NoobSauce: i did, but i didn't like it :-p
[01:31] <starman> Apostle^, if you are a minimalist how come you are not using something less related to desktop environment, I mean ubuntu does not seem to be a very minimalist attractive distribution
[01:32] <tritium> serp: if you _really_ want to fiddle, I suggest doing it on the roof
[01:32] <rabbitear> but it one way to 'learn to switch to linux ';)
[01:32] <Apostle^> starman: because i am just learning linux
[01:32] <starman> RandolphCarter, I see
[01:32] <Apostle^> starman: i have used linux since december
[01:32] <starman> oh you are a potential Plan9 user
[01:32] <starman> hehehe
[01:32] <Apostle^> plan9 from bell labs?
[01:32] <Apostle^> isn't that unix
[01:32] <starman> yes
[01:33] <pulver> serp, if you want a linux distro that just works out of the box you should try a linux live cd distro of some sort
[01:33] <starman> well freebsd is unix as well and you can have xorg running
[01:33] <NoobSauce> Apostle^ if you are minimalist, I would recommend using ion, which I'm told is really nice for the minimalists out there... also I was a fluxbox user for a long time - fluxbox is very cool
[01:33] <starman> and I bet xgl as well
[01:33] <RandolphCarter> Apostle^: I saw a pretty nice tiling window manager a while back too - good for many xterms
[01:33] <Apostle^> i am not a minimalist
[01:33] <Apostle^> i run gnome, used to run xfce
[01:34] <Apostle^> i just dont care about the eye candy
[01:34] <starman> RandolphCarter, do you know of any amd64 nvidia user running an ubuntu 64bit environment using compiz?
[01:34] <serp> woops
[01:34] <serp> wrong button
[01:34] <NoobSauce> starman I was doing that for a while, it works
[01:34] <RandolphCarter> starman: nope, sorry
[01:34] <starman> well then you should try xterm, that is definitely no eyecandy
[01:34] <tritium> serp: thought you went off to fiddle ;)
[01:34] <serp> tritium: =)
[01:34] <serp> I tried the Ubuntu live CD
[01:34] <starman> NoobSauce, you got it to work??
[01:34] <NoobSauce> starman I think I got it to install using pre-built packages that are on some of the howtos for ubuntu
[01:34] <serp> and it was kinda hard to install the correct libraries
[01:34] <spitty> starman, this forum should help you: http://compiz.net/index.php
[01:35] <AcuraX> What kernel version was the "warty" release?
[01:35] <starman> those cvs ones?
[01:35] <tony_> if anyone gets time..im having a huge issue with my usb headset...can anyone give me a hand?
[01:35] <NoobSauce> starman yeah, xgl and compiz are really easy to set up, it's nvidia's drivers that are hard for me
[01:35] <Apostle^> xgl can ruin your xorg
[01:35] <serp> and the opengl support was very limited... something called mesa which was slow =(
[01:35] <NoobSauce> starman compiz and xgl took like 30 minutes for me tops
[01:35] <tritium> NoobSauce: no progress since last night?
[01:35] <nickrud> AcuraX, 2.6.8 iirc
[01:35] <fabytes> hi ppl, does anyone knows how do I change my connection password? I use pon dsl-provider to connect on the internet
[01:35] <serp> does ubuntu use xorg?
[01:35] <starman> I didnt have problems with nvidia ever before
[01:35] <tritium> yes, serp
[01:35] <AcuraX> Damnnit
[01:35] <ompaul> AcuraX, it was so long ago, and is now no longer supported :-)
[01:35] <Apostle^> NoobSauce: lol, should help me try it again then all the guides confuse me
[01:35] <NoobSauce> tritium nope... worked on it a couple hours with no success... just can't seem to get it to work for some reason... maybe I'm cursed :)
[01:35] <AcuraX> hsfmodem_7.47.00.01full_k2.6.10_5_386_ubuntu_i386.deb.zip
[01:36] <starman> I just followed everything and that ... does not work for me :(
[01:36] <AcuraX> errr
[01:36] <tritium> NoobSauce: remind me of the card versio please
[01:36] <NoobSauce> Apostle^ I'll find you the guide I used... are you using AMD64
[01:36] <nickrud> fabytes, it'll be in /etc/ppp/chap-secrets or pap-secrets
[01:36] <Apostle^> nah, pentium 4 /w ati
[01:36] <NoobSauce> tritium GeForce 6200 PCI-E w/ 256 MB ram
[01:36] <tony_> can anyone help me with my usb headset?
[01:36] <starman> however I am gonna try again :)
[01:36] <crimsun> tony_: in what respect?
[01:36] <Apostle^> NoobSauce: radeon x700 pro PCI-E 256 mb ;-)
[01:36] <starman> nvidia Geforce FX 5700 256
[01:36] <tritium> NoobSauce: that shouldn't require nvidia-glx-legacy.  I wonder what's up with that...
[01:37] <AcuraX> Can someone give me the addy to order cd's
[01:37] <tritium> shipit.ubuntu.com
[01:37] <nickrud> !shipit
[01:37] <ubotu> For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[01:37] <NoobSauce> tritium I just bought this card for a hundred bucks a week ago. it BETTER not require legacy :P
[01:37] <starman> whats the difference between legacy and non legacy
[01:37] <AcuraX> Thanks
[01:37] <serp> how hard is it to get ati drivers to run?
[01:37] <tony_> well first of all crimsun...how do i private message you?
[01:37] <tritium> NoobSauce: :)
[01:37] <RandolphCarter> serp: I'll let you know when I've managed to get them to run... (it depends on your setup)
[01:37] <NoobSauce> starman legacy = old model of something
[01:37] <nickrud> starman, <5000 series =legacy, >5000 = non-legacy
[01:38] <spitty> serp, not too bad
[01:38] <spitty> they're in synaptic
[01:38] <serp> RandolphCarter: how does it depend on my setup?
[01:38] <serp> my hardware setup?
[01:38] <starman> ok, thanks I am learing a lot of english today :D
[01:38] <RandolphCarter> serp: yeah, what bus, card type, firmware revision - there are too many factors really
[01:38] <crimsun> tony_: don't query me; I find it highly unmanageable since I'm in nearly 90 channels
[01:38] <crimsun> tony_: just converse here
[01:38] <serp> oh
[01:39] <serp> all righty
[01:39] <NoobSauce> Apostle^ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427
[01:39] <serp> well I'll give ubuntu a try
[01:39] <RandolphCarter> another reboot, see if the official ATI drivers will work :)
[01:39] <kernelpanic> hello
[01:39] <tony_> alright..well anyways, i cant get my headset to work..
[01:39] <tony_> sound keeps coming out pc speakers..and i cant get mic to work either
[01:39] <NoobSauce> Apostle^ there are packages in the repositories, but I can only confirm that the packages on this page will work. Also, some people claim they got KDE to work with compiz - don't listen to them, you have to stick with gnome for this one
[01:40] <c01100011> hello, I reinstalled ubuntu on a system and I am having a peculiar problem with the internet connection speed. I disabled ipv6, but websites are still taking a very long time to lookup, but then load quickly. I think it may be a problem with my DNS list. Any recomendations  ?
[01:40] <tony_> ive changed it in the sound properties and that has no effect
[01:40] <MisterN> n8
[01:40] <Apostle^> NoobSauce: i'm just gonna forget it, i don't want to worry about messing xorg up, i have everything the way i like it now. but thanks
[01:41] <crimsun> tony_: pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards ~/.asoundrc*''
[01:41] <tony_> k..i should tell you im new to ubuntu..i have no clue how to do that
[01:41] <bender_> BUFFALO WINGS!
[01:41] <NoobSauce> Apostle^ I never hosed my install with xgl... I don't know why everyone says that... I've done 2 installs of it so far with no problems... the drivers have always been the problems that hosed xorg for me
[01:42] <||arifaX> hi can someone help. after booting /boot is not mounted. no problems with the system but for example a kernel update would not work what do I have to edit to mount /boot at boottime? (ubuntu breezy 2.6.12-9-386)
[01:42] <||arifaX> but I have a folder /boot
[01:42] <tony_> wow..never mind bro..but thanks anyways..i just got it working:D
[01:42] <crimsun> tony_: Applications> Accessories> Terminal , then type ``cat /proc/asound/cards ~/.asoundrc*''
[01:42] <RandolphCarter> yay :) turns out fglrx doesn't like framebuffers :/
[01:42] <bender_> fglrx doesnt like anyhting
[01:43] <serp> RandolphCarter: did it work?
[01:43] <starman> I am gonna restart Xgl, lets see if I have finally broken it
[01:43] <RandolphCarter> it seems to like my hardware now, and yeah
[01:43] <bender_> in fact. i hate ATI
[01:43] <starman> see you
[01:43] <starman> ATI sucks hehehe bye
[01:43] <ChickenFire> ||arifaX: what is inside your /etc/fstab ?
[01:43] <|Sivik|> faX: are you editing the grub (menu.lst
[01:43] <ompaul> **** news flash **** the channel #ubuntu+1 is for those who are running dapper :-) there is a #ubuntu-xgl channel also this channel should be for support of the stable versions of the O/S
[01:43] <nickrud> lol
[01:43] <bender_> well guys.. im full.. i just ate hott wings... and had to drink a huge monster energy drink cuz im outa other liquids.
[01:43] <||arifaX> ChickenFire: should I paste here?
[01:43] <|Sivik|> no
[01:44] <bender_> so i recommend NOT doing the same
[01:44] <|Sivik|> don't paste here
[01:44] <ompaul> ||arifaX, paste in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:44] <serp> when I am new with Ubuntu, should I install dapper or the regular version?
[01:44] <ChickenFire> just the line containing /boot
[01:44] <Stormx2> bender_: Got the shakes yet?
[01:44] <nickrud> serp, breezy definitly
[01:44] <||arifaX> ChickenFire, There is none
[01:44] <|Sivik|> install breezy
[01:44] <ompaul> serp, 5.10
[01:44] <serp> ok
[01:44] <bender_> Storrmx2 nah... last night i had 2 24oz monsters.. could barely hold a  pen
[01:45] <Mitsurugi> 'ello
[01:45] <|Sivik|> how do i write someomes name whithout having to type it out?
[01:45] <Apostle^> energy drinks lol.
[01:45] <bender_> felt like i  was turning into a monster
[01:45] <ChickenFire> plz paste the content of the file to the given location arifax
[01:45] <serp> |Sivik|: <tab>
[01:45] <Knorrie> |Sivik|: tab
[01:45] <Apostle^> |Sivik|: type some of it and hit tab if your on xchat
[01:45] <|Sivik|> i'm not in xchat
[01:45] <nickrud> serp, you'll be able to upgrade nicely to dapper when it's released (I'd suggest waiting a month or so)
[01:45] <red_Marvin> Question: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=987751#post987751
[01:45] <serp> oki
[01:45] <||arifaX> ChickenFire, but I know it is on /dev/hde1 and i can mount in manually - will paste wait
 works in almost irc client
[01:45] <|Sivik|> ||arifaX: it works here though
[01:45] <serp> who is paying for ubuntu to be developed?
[01:45] <Knorrie> serp: sabdfl
[01:46] <|Sivik|> serp: no one
[01:46] <tritium> aka Mark Shuttleworth
[01:46] <rabbitear> serp, microsoft
[01:46] <Knorrie> rabbitear: lol
[01:46] <|Sivik|> serp: they are doing it cause they wanna
[01:46] <c01100011> hello, I reinstalled ubuntu on a system and I am having a peculiar problem with the internet connection speed. I disabled ipv6, but websites are still taking a very long time to lookup, but then load quickly. I think it may be a problem with my DNS list. Any recomendations  ?
[01:46] <RandolphCarter> serp: marc shuttleworth mostly, I think
[01:46] <rabbitear> :>
[01:46] <||arifaX> ChickenFire, pasted it
[01:46] <RandolphCarter> serp: and by all accounts he's a pretty top guy ^_^
[01:46] <serp> RandolphCarter: ;)
[01:46] <francis> i get that problem too c01100011
[01:46] <serp> does he ever come here?
[01:46] <nickrud> serp, a lot of people, some with money, some with time
[01:47] <Knorrie> NoobSauce: mslinux aka.. msux aka.. ms sucks
[01:47] <|Sivik|> serp:no one in perticular though
[01:47] <ChickenFire> ||arifaX: what URL please?
[01:47] <serp> can I help developing ubuntu?
[01:47] <tritium> of course, serp
[01:47] <|Sivik|> serp: do you know anything about programming?
[01:47] <serp> |Sivik|: yes
[01:47] <ollo82> good evening
[01:47] <||arifaX> ChickenFire, ahh understand: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d13458
[01:47] <nickrud> serp, yes. File bugs
[01:47] <Knorrie> serp: ttp://crazy.mofo.nl/~redfox/biertje1.jpg
[01:48] <NoobSauce> serp an easy way for anyone to help is to submit bug reports
[01:48] <tritium> serp: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[01:48] <Knorrie> serp: fok wrong url
[01:48] <ollo82> is there a difference between flight 7 and beta 2 ?
[01:48] <Knorrie> serp http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[01:48] <tritium> yes, ollo82
[01:48] <ChickenFire> oki
[01:48] <RandolphCarter> serp: aye, or do artwork or work on documentation :) (testing betas is good too)
[01:48] <serp> cool
[01:48] <tritium> Knorrie: already got it covered ;)
[01:48] <serp> well step 1 is to install it
[01:48] <Knorrie> tritium: gheh thanks :)
[01:48] <ollo82> which difference?
[01:48] <serp> RandolphCarter: did you get the drivers to work?
[01:48] <|Sivik|> ollo82: your mom
[01:49] <|Sivik|> serp: what languages?
[01:49] <tritium> ollo82: updated packages
[01:49] <RandolphCarter> serp: yeah, it was one of those things where two disparate parts of the system conspire against me
[01:49] <tritium> |Sivik|: that's not helpful
[01:49] <ollo82> my mom is not satisfied with beta2
[01:49] <ollo82> which one is newer?
[01:49] <|Sivik|> ollo82: i was just trying to be funner
[01:49] <tritium> ollo82: many
[01:49] <|Sivik|> ollo82: read up on it
[01:49] <ollo82> i cant find anything about flight 7 on the official page
[01:50] <|Sivik|> probably because its not offical
[01:50] <serp> |Sivik|: c++ mostly
[01:50] <|Sivik|> serp: nice
[01:50] <ollo82> but its newer ?
[01:50] <mick> if my xorg.conf looks like this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13461   why does it act like nothing has changed from the default?
[01:50] <tritium> yes
[01:51] <pulver> anyone using window maker here?
[01:51] <whyami> I've been looking over kde (I have been using Gnome) and I would be ready to seriously switch over, except that I would really miss the gnome applets (such as system monitor). Is there a way to get these gnome applets in kde?
[01:51] <tritium> ollo82: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions, please
[01:51] <nickrud> RandolphCarter, I hope you have a bed nearby
[01:51] <ChickenFire> SO ||arifaX
[01:51] <ollo82> ok, thx
[01:51] <nickrud> whyami, not gnome apps, but there are a lot of kde tools that provide the same functionality
[01:52] <c01100011> Sorry if i am resending too often, but i saw a few new names and was hoping to snag some help, I reinstalled ubuntu on a system and I am having a peculiar problem with the internet connection speed. I disabled ipv6, but websites are still taking a very long time to lookup, but then load quickly. I think it may be a problem with my DNS list. Any recomendations  ?
[01:52] <ChickenFire> ||arifaX,  you have no /boot entry in /etc/fstab.. so mounting manually should look like: "mount /dev/hde1 /boot"
[01:52] <RandolphCarter> switching from fglrx+xorg to a vty still hangs the system :(
[01:52] <ChickenFire> instead of mount /boot"
[01:52] <rabbitear> whyami, not gnome panel apps? any app of gnome will run on a kde desktop
[01:52] <ChickenFire> instead of "mount /boot"
[01:53] <ChickenFire> RandolphCarter go for the dri radeon ;)
[01:53] <|Sivik|> mde, how many partitions or hds do you have?
[01:53] <||arifaX> ChickenFire, yes manually works did that already but how to do it automatically?
[01:53] <RandolphCarter> ChickenFire: compiz man, compiz :(
[01:53] <ChickenFire> ok ok
[01:53] <serp> what's a good IDE in linux?
[01:53] <serp> I use Visual Studio now
[01:54] <rabbitear> c01100011, yep, that sounds right..
[01:54] <nickrud> serp, eclipse is often recommended, as well as anjuta
[01:54] <tritium> serp: anjuta, kdevelop, eclipse
[01:54] <c01100011> rabbitear- how would i go about changing my dns ?
[01:54] <c01100011> list *
[01:54] <serp> okay
[01:54] <NoobSauce> does anyone have comparisons of writing to ipod from itunes versus from something in linux? which is faster? (wondering if I should run wine+itunes on linux)
[01:54] <serp> how do I get the headers needed for opengl?
[01:54] <serp> GL/glu.h for isntance
[01:55] <serp> I couldn't find that when I tried the live cd
[01:55] <biovore> serp: figure out what the development package is and install it..
[01:55] <RandolphCarter> NoobSauce: unless you have some FairPlay DRM'd songs, I'd go with rhythmbox or equivalent
[01:55] <serp> biovore: how do I figure out that?
[01:55] <rabbitear> c01100011, System->Adminastration->Network
[01:55] <tritium> serp: development tools and libs aren't intsalled by default
[01:55] <nickrud> serp, search on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for a file you need, it'll tell you the package
[01:55] <biovore> serp: use apt-cache and search for it
[01:55] <Sanne> serp, on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ in section "Search the contents of packages" you can look up the package a file belongs to.
[01:56] <NoobSauce> RandolphCarter is there any program to strip the DRM from the songs?
[01:56] <tritium> serp: you'll want build-essential to start with, plus whatever libs, etc. you want
[01:56] <serp> nickrud, Sanne, perfect
[01:56] <serp> thanks a lot
[01:56] <Sanne> serp, you're welcome
[01:56] <RandolphCarter> NoobSauce: there's a windows/osx app, but it'll only work for <= iTunes 5.00 stuff
[01:56] <serp> how come development things aren't installed by default?
[01:56] <bender_> ive returned
[01:56] <nickrud> NoobSauce, no, not under linux (I'm still looking)
[01:57] <tritium> serp: the average user doesn't need it
[01:57] <ChickenFire> ok, ubuntu is using LVM, the new entry line in /etc/fstab should look like "/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-boot     /boot      etc...."
[01:57] <serp> fair enough
[01:57] <nickrud> serp, this is a user distro, not a developers
[01:57] <ChickenFire> ||arifaX, ok, ubuntu is using LVM, the new entry line in /etc/fstab should look like "/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-boot     /boot      etc...."
[01:57] <bender_> that was stupid
[01:57] <RandolphCarter> although, by definition, programmers are lazy, so ubuntu's kinda good for them
[01:57] <Seveas> bender_, indeed, away messages are very stupid.
[01:57] <bender_> so many megalomaniac's running these IRC chans
[01:57] <nickrud> serp, although, developers can use this one just fine, if the want
[01:57] <NoobSauce> tritium, in linux there is no such thing as 'the average user' :P
[01:57] <||arifaX> ChickenFire, should I try that - should make no problems if buggy line or?
[01:58] <bender_> awaymsg = hi
[01:58] <bender_> UT OH
[01:58] <serp> hm okay, q.
[01:58] <nickrud> bender_, the reason here is to keep clutter on the channel to a minimum, it scrolls fast enough as it is
[01:58] <serp> should I make more partitions than just / and wswap?
[01:58] <tritium> NoobSauce: you can survey a large collection of ubuntu users, and average the results
[01:58] <fabytes> hi ppl, does anyone knows how do I change my connection password? I use pon dsl-provider to connect on the internet
[01:58] <bender_> so will
[01:58] <bender_> i get kicked
[01:58] <bender_> if i
[01:58] <serp> maybe ubuntu helps me with partitioning?
[01:58] <bender_> send to much
[01:58] <bender_> at once?
[01:58] <nickrud> !enter
[01:58] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[01:58] <nickrud> yes
[01:59] <bender_> o
[01:59] <ageofpanik> Anybody set up XGL and compiz on a laptop
[01:59] <|Sivik|> serp: i have partition for my boot as well cause i normally run more than one linux at a time
[01:59] <tritium> NoobSauce: and that result indicates that most don't need dev. tools by default
[01:59] <spitty> ageofpanik, yes
[01:59] <ageofpanik> spitty, did it go smooth for you?
[01:59] <spitty> smooth isn't quite the word I'd use, but it works
[01:59] <Seveas> !xgl
[01:59] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[02:00] <ageofpanik> I have destroyed my laptop 4 times and have given up
[02:00] <ageofpanik> I also am a linux noob so I don't have experience with linux
[02:00] <spitty> what are you trying to install it on?
[02:00] <ageofpanik> Dell D600
[02:00] <c01100011> sorry to be such a bother, how do i go about retrieiving new dns server adresses ?
[02:00] <spitty> does it have an ati or nvidia card?
[02:00] <nickrud> ageofpanik, heh. you mean you've had bad luck with installs
[02:00] <tritium> ageofpanik: destroyed?  physical damage?
[02:00] <ageofpanik> oh no
[02:01] <gk> hi
[02:01] <tritium> c01100011: from the dhcp server?
[02:01] <c01100011> i would google, but 30 second page lookups are fustraiting me
[02:01] <ageofpanik> destroyed the install
[02:01] <NoobSauce> anyone know how to use syslinux+ipod/usbdrive?
[02:01] <rabbitear> dhcp would do that for you.... *If* the dhcp server is setup correct, and the dns server itself it gets is not crap
[02:01] <c01100011> tritum- yes, i tried reconecting to the dhcp server, but that doesn't fix the problem
[02:01] <spitty> ageofpanic, try this site: http://compiz.net/viewforum.php?id=5
[02:01] <starman> hi again
[02:02] <spitty> that's how I got my xgl running
[02:02] <starman> now compiz works but gnome-window-decorator does not hehehehe
[02:02] <tritium> c01100011: sudo dhclient <interface>, e.g. sudo dhclient eth0
[02:02] <ageofpanik> Cool, will do
[02:02] <ageofpanik> I am using an ATI card also
[02:02] <NoobSauce> starman that's supposed to happen, you have to follow the rest of the guide to complete it
[02:02] <starman> I think I have already :)
[02:03] <ChickenFire> ||arifaX, no risk, no result ;)
[02:03] <NoobSauce> starman to quite the guide 'you will see your windows decorations dissappear - believe it or not that's a good thing'
[02:03] <starman> I have followed all howtoes, but lets see it again for the n-time ;) I bet I am missing somethihng
[02:03] <||arifaX> :)
[02:03] <NoobSauce> starman you have to do it *just* right... so you have to read it really closely
[02:03] <starman> ok which howto in particular are we talking about :)
[02:03] <ChickenFire> ||arifaX, no seriously, if you do not change the other lines, it should be ok and skip it in case of error.
[02:03] <ageofpanik> thank you for your help
[02:04] <NoobSauce> starman it should be pretty similar. I did it using nvidia+amd64, you're probably doing something else though
[02:04] <starman> I have tried ps -aux | grep compiz and grep Xgl and that is definitely working fine
[02:04] <starman> nope I use same thing as you
[02:04] <starman> amd64 + nvidia
[02:04] <NoobSauce> starman oh... let me pull up the guide brb
[02:05] <||arifaX> ChikenF, there is no Ubuntu-boot in /dev/mapper but Ubuntu-root I assume if no Ubuntu-boot present there inserting the line will not help I think something has to be created first? - you helped me a lot, I will check out and try
[02:05] <nickrud> !ubotu
[02:05] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[02:05] <||arifaX> err ChikenF=ChickenFire
[02:06] <ENE|Toxic> WPA/WLAN. I can't seem to ping local computers in the network from my wpa/wlan laptop. I can ping ie google, and the other users in the lan my ping each other but my laptop. May this be some error with my WPA settings on my laptop?
[02:06] <starman> I will run compiz like thirty times as it says but I dont know where this may lead me to
[02:07] <NoobSauce> starman http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427 < - that's the howto I refer to
[02:07] <ChickenFire> ||arifaX, so if the boot partition in not in LVM, then enter "/dev/hde1" directly.
[02:07] <NoobSauce> starman have you modified the stuff with gconf-editor? that's almost certainly where the problem is
[02:07] <starman> ok that is the one I was doing
[02:07] <starman> in fact I havent done that
[02:07] <starman> :)
[02:07] <||arifaX> ChickenFire: I think that was my fault. will never put boot into lvm again....
[02:08] <rabbitear> ENE|Toxic, the other machines allow to be pinged?
[02:09] <starman> NoobSauce, if this works I ... I dont know what I do
[02:09] <vincenz> Helll
[02:09] <starman> :)
[02:09] <vincenz> Sutck with a big problem
[02:09] <hierophant> _jason
[02:09] <rabbitear> ENE|Toxic, WPA wouldn't I think do that, sounds like firewall settings..
[02:09] <ENE|Toxic> rabbitear: certainly. It's just this computer that can't ping the others, and the other way around. Either it's a problem with WPA in my settings, or my router doesn't forward packets properly between lan-wlan
[02:09] <vincenz> Basically I had to reinstall grub, and for some reason it wanted to reinstall some packages, now I no longer have eth1 which is WIFI, which also used to use wpa
[02:09] <vincenz> Basically I had to reinstall grub, and for some reason it wanted to reinstall some packages, now I no longer have eth1 which is WIFI, which also used to use wpa_supplicant, how do I fix this?
[02:10] <rabbitear> ENE|Toxic, i'd bet on the router as the problem...
[02:10] <ENE|Toxic> rabbitear: Nah, it's not a firewall setting, stationary comp1 can ping stationary comp2, but wlan comp3 can't ping stationary com2 :) No firewall applied
[02:10] <rabbitear> could be WPA tho, I actually never really used that :P
[02:10] <vincenz> ubotu: !wpasupplicant
[02:10] <ubotu> vincenz: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:10] <rabbitear> *shrugs*
[02:10] <vincenz> ubotu: !wpa_supplicant
[02:10] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vincenz
[02:10] <vincenz> ubotu: !wifi
[02:10] <ubotu> vincenz: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:11] <nickrud> !wpa_supplicant
[02:11] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud
[02:11] <nickrud> !wifi
[02:11] <vincenz> !wlan
[02:11] <ubotu> I heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:11] <ubotu> vincenz: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:11] <ENE|Toxic> rabbitear: In my opinion it shouldn't be the router, but on the other hand I might have overlooked something. I'll check the conf again
[02:11] <rabbitear> WPA does routing ? :) its a routing issue..
[02:11] <guerrilla> is it just me, or is the jre near impossible to install
[02:11] <nickrud> guerrilla, no, it's pretty easy
[02:11] <nickrud> (<Tab> means press the Tab Key) In the directory where you downloaded the sun jre, type sudo aptitude install java-package && fakeroot make-jpkg jre<Tab> . When that's done, type sudo dpkg -i sun<Tab>
[02:11] <NoobSauce> guerrilla try using easyubuntu
[02:12] <guerrilla> i've gone through the instructions online, and it doesn't work
[02:12] <NoobSauce> guerrilla that will install all the common stuff that you will need including jre
[02:12] <mphill> Is there such a think as the restricted headers for 686 SMP, I only see them for the uniprocessor, does this really make a diffrence on hyperthreaded machines?
[02:12] <vincenz> it no longer sees eth1 as a device!!
[02:12] <kbrooks> guerrilla: how doesnt it work?
[02:13] <guerrilla> NoobSauce that sounds interesting where do i pick that up
[02:13] <NoobSauce> mphill hyperthreaded machines are single processor machines. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the hyperthreading is done on hardware not software (right?)
[02:13] <mphill> i know its a uniprocessor
[02:13] <ENE|Toxic> rabbitear: hmm, I think I know the problem. My router is acting AP and forwarding wlan traffic to some other unprotected AP, since I haven't specified a password for my ssid, just a public key.
[02:13] <NoobSauce> guerrilla http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ < - this script should handle it all for you
[02:13] <mphill> i was wondering is there are advatages to using the HT, since I can't see to get the restricted headers for the 686 SMP
[02:14] <guerrilla> kbrooks well for one, when it says to use sudo apt-get jre1.4 it says there is no installation information
[02:14] <kbrooks> !tell guerrilla about easyubuntu
[02:14] <nickrud> mphill, are you using dapper?
[02:14] <j-linux> My Ubuntu Breezy won't boot.  I installed yesterday's update and when I booted up the next time it wouldn't start.  These are the error messages I was getting: http://pastebin.com/699452 (I'm in DSL now, booting from a thumb drive)
[02:14] <mphill> yes
[02:14] <rabbitear> ENE|Toxic, sounds right to me as somebody that never got into WPA ;/
[02:14] <mphill> nickrud: yes
[02:14] <kbrooks> ubotu: easyubuntu =~ s//,//./
[02:14] <guerrilla> kbrooks thanks
[02:14] <NetworkJester> hello
[02:14] <nickrud> mphill, it's all the same, uniprocessor/SMP under dapper. More info, ask on #ubuntu+1
[02:15] <ENE|Toxic> rabbitear: yeah
[02:15] <kbrooks> ubotu: easyubuntu =~ s#/,#/./
[02:15] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks
[02:15] <kbrooks> ubotu: easyubuntu =~ s#/,#/.#
[02:15] <ubotu> OK, kbrooks
[02:15] <kbrooks> !easyubuntu
[02:15] <vincenz> :(
[02:15] <guerrilla> kbrooks, should i be worried that fakeroot gives me an error like "/usr/bin/fakeroot line 15:no such command make-jpkg"
[02:15] <kbrooks> there.
[02:15] <rabbitear> ENE|Toxic, you could always ssh tunnel back to the other machines lol
[02:15] <kbrooks> guerrilla: You don't have it.
[02:16] <NetworkJester> anyone know if there is a package or way to get the "make install" function for ubuntu?
[02:16] <spitty> build-essential is require to compile things
[02:16] <nickrud> NetworkJester, install build-essential
[02:16] <NetworkJester> build-essential?
[02:16] <guerrilla> kbrooks: i used apt-get to install it, anbd it said i had the latest version
[02:16] <NetworkJester> is that the command?
[02:16] <serp> I'm gonna install linux how hihi
[02:16] <serp> so excited
[02:16] <high-freq> whats the fix for ..... if i can ping actual ip numbers...but i can't ping names....how do i fix this?
[02:16] <j-linux> NetworkJester: you can use synaptic... search it.
[02:16] <nickrud> NetworkJester, sudo aptitude install build-essential is the command
[02:17] <NoobSauce> anyone know where I can find a net install for ubuntu that is for i386? (I can only find 64bit, spark and hppa for some reason)
[02:17] <guerrilla> kbrooks: installed fakeroot thatis
[02:17] <mike930> is there a way to manually edit the session manager
[02:17] <j-linux> Does anyone know what these error messages mean? http://pastebin.com/699452  I'm getting them when I try to boot, after yesterday's kernel update.
[02:17] <j-linux> Ubuntu Breezy
[02:17] <kbrooks> guerrilla: java-package
[02:17] <ENE|Toxic> rabbitear: haha yeah that's an alternative. Just to make one thing clear, using wpa_passphrase, it generates some output to add to the config. It also generates a psk and a #psk. Is the #psk interpreted in any way in the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf or is that just treated as a comment ?
[02:18] <crimsun> ENE|Toxic: #commented out
[02:18] <j-linux> I can't get into my system... :(
[02:18] <ENE|Toxic> crimsun: usually yes .. but thanks though
[02:18] <guerrilla> kbrooks: apt-get says java-package connot be found
[02:18] <guerrilla> kbrooks: but java-common can
[02:18] <rabbitear> ENE|Toxic, I bet its a comment, but I really don't *know* WPA ...
[02:19] <Mikey> Hi, anyone who knows if there's a particular channel to discuss Wireless networking in Ubuntu, or is it appropriate to do it here?
[02:19] <ENE|Toxic> rabbitear: yeah probably. Well, the problem is neither do I :) Thanks for the help though
[02:19] <Nihil85> hi everyone! i wanted to know were are the icons in ubuntu. can anyone give me an answer?
[02:19] <crimsun> ENE|Toxic: trust me, it's commented out.
[02:19] <Nihil85> in wich folders are they?
[02:20] <Sanne> Nihil85, /usr/share/pixmaps, /usr/share/icons
[02:20] <rabbitear> np
[02:20] <Nihil85> Sanne: thanks
[02:20] <||arifaX> ChickenFire: ...worked - (a simple line /dev/hde1 /boot did it) - anyhow both 64 and 32 bit versions of ubuntu 5.10 do forget about putting /boot in fstab when using lvm on full drive and create an invalid line in fstab
[02:20] <Sanne> Nihil85, you're welcome
[02:20] <high-freq> whats the fix for ..... if i can ping actual ip numbers...but i can't ping names....how do i fix this?
[02:20] <ergon_1> hello
[02:20] <ENE|Toxic> crimsun: I'll take yer word for it :)
[02:20] <NetworkJester> strange it cant find build-essential
[02:21] <crimsun> NetworkJester: is main enabled?
[02:21] <NetworkJester> main?
[02:21] <Poker> is it possible to execute a windows program in linux ?
[02:22] <crimsun> NetworkJester: do you have the 'main' repository enabled?
[02:22] <NoobSauce> poker yes. Use wine
[02:22] <mike930> I tried to install fluxbox and for some reason it got an error, now in my session manager I have an item that says "foo" is there a way to get rid of it?
[02:22] <Poker> sounds good
[02:22] <Poker> ty
[02:22] <Sanne> Poker, not all apps work, though (just a warning)
[02:23] <NoobSauce> poker add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list file: "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" without quotes, then do apt-get update, and apt-get install wine
[02:23] <NetworkJester> crimsun, im srry i dont know what that is :)
[02:23] <crimsun> NetworkJester: System> Administration> Synaptic> Settings> Repositories> Officially supported
[02:23] <NoobSauce> poker sanne is right, not all apps will work, and some will have some weird problems, but most stuff should be ok
[02:23] <rabbitear> http://www.y3m.net/docs/gentoo-on-t42/configs/wpa_supplicant.conf   <--- has alot of comments
[02:23] <high-freq> i guess..how do i enable name resolutions?  so i can actually ping names..instead of the ip's
[02:24] <NetworkJester> and which needs to be supported?
[02:25] <NetworkJester> crimsun^
[02:25] <Poker> NoobSauce,  it works even if i don't add the source
[02:25] <Poker> i mean the command to install
[02:25] <crimsun> NetworkJester: officially supported needs to be checked
[02:25] <NoobSauce> poker what country are you in?
[02:25] <Poker> Italy
[02:25] <Quan-Time> mornin :)
[02:25] <rabbitear> mornin..
[02:25] <NetworkJester> on breezy badger?
[02:25] <NetworkJester> it was...
[02:25] <NoobSauce> poker yeah, that's probably why... I'm in the US and we have some really bizarre intellectual property laws... I wouldn't be surprised if it was illegal here to install wine
[02:26] <crimsun> NetworkJester: did you refresh?
[02:26] <NetworkJester> with the newly downloaded packages ??
[02:26] <NetworkJester> yeah
[02:26] <NoobSauce> poker it's amazing but mplayer, vlc, and any kind of dvd players in linux are actually illegal, so our sources.list looks very funny
[02:26] <NetworkJester> should i try it now?
[02:26] <crimsun> NetworkJester: pastebin the output from ``apt-cache policy build-essential''
[02:26] <Poker> lol
[02:27] <rabbitear> drinking wine is still legal
[02:27] <vincenz> ok, I had to reinstall bootmanager, so I put in install cd, now it partially installed some packages and failed, my system still runs but it no longer knows eth1, my wifi interface
[02:27] <NetworkJester> pastebin the output huh????
[02:27] <NoobSauce> by the way, to prove I'm not making this up, ANY dvd player in linux is illegal right? (someone from the US second me)
[02:27] <rabbitear> hehe probably..
[02:27] <mikeo1> is there any way to play wmvhd in linux?
[02:28] <NetworkJester> crimsun
[02:28] <NetworkJester> how do i do what you just said?
[02:28] <NoobSauce> mike01 not legally if you're in the US :) use easyubuntu
[02:28] <crimsun> NetworkJester: Applications> Accessories> Terminal, type: apt-cache policy build-essential
[02:28] <crimsun> NetworkJester: then paste that output onto the Web site http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:28] <mikeo1> can it be done?
[02:28] <mikeo1> using amd64 dapper + xgl
[02:28] <biovore> mikeo1: I think wmvhd is just MS new sales pich to push the same old wmv format..
[02:29] <mikeo1> have 1 movie i want to play in wmvhd
[02:29] <rabbitear> the US does! have really screwey and screwed and screwed up IP laws
[02:29] <NetworkJester> mmmk
[02:29] <mikeo1> pirates wmvhd lol
[02:29] <biovore> mikeo1: mplayer play it?
[02:29] <NoobSauce> mike01 the easyubuntu script should take care of everything for you
[02:29] <Nihil85> i wanted to know if there's a program like Amarok in gnome, or something like this with a playlist manager such as winamp
[02:29] <mikeo1> nope
[02:29] <mikeo1> mplayer doesnt play wmvhd-dvd
[02:29] <mikeo1> at least not my version
[02:29] <NoobSauce> nihil85 try juk
[02:29] <mikeo1> plays h264 better than quicktime does in windows tho
[02:29] <rabbitear> its not really because of lawyers either <-- I've already tried to argue with them
[02:30] <rmulliga> Can anyone tell me which Graphics cards xorg-driver-fglrx works with? I have an x800, and when I run fglrxinfo I get this error message:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13463
[02:30] <mikeo1> can play 2 1080p h264's at once :D
[02:30] <rabbitear> at a bar ..
[02:30] <NoobSauce> mike01 oh, if mplayer doesn't do it, there's probably no way to do it :(
[02:30] <mikeo1> with no dropped frames
[02:30] <Nihil85> NoobSauce: is this juk right for gnome?
[02:30] <mikeo1> is there a codec out there though?
[02:30] <fiveiron> can you blank a cd-rw using nautilus?
[02:30] <senectus> NoobSauce, the Linux/DVD player legallity thing is dependant on what country you live in. Plus there _are_ legal DVD Linux software.. but it's not free
[02:30] <rabbitear> but, they don't back down <the laywer(s)> that I argued with..
[02:31] <mikeo1> anyone here good with tv cards?
[02:31] <mikeo1> cant get my leadtek tvxp 2000 deluxe to work
[02:31] <NoobSauce> nihil85 it should be ok... what do you mean 'right for gnome'? you mean works with the taskbar ok when it minimizes?
[02:31] <rabbitear> law student
[02:31] <Nihil85> NoobSauce: i've red on synaptic that juk is for kde
[02:32] <Nihil85> NoobSauce: JuK (pronounced "jook") is a jukebox and music manager for the KDE
[02:32] <Nihil85> desktop similar to jukebox software on other platforms such as
[02:32] <Nihil85> iTunes or RealOne.
[02:32] <Nihil85> oooops
[02:32] <NoobSauce> senectus really? what players? I thought nobody actually had licenses for the codecs to run in linux... you learn something new every day I guess :)
[02:32] <rabbitear> <--- I am not the law student
[02:32] <NoobSauce> nihil85 oh, I thought it was for gnome :P other than that, I have no idea
[02:32] <bartmaniac> hello, i'm running ubuntu dapper kernel 2.6.15.21-386 on a AMD athlon64 system. Is there a better kernel for this? K7?
[02:33] <senectus> NoobSauce, I'm pretty sure that the Linspire "clicknrun" repositories have DVD players in them, and I'm sure I read somewhere some time ago there is an "off the shelf" Linux DVD player software out there now as well.
[02:33] <Nihil85> i wonder how if gnome is the best desktop manager, all the rights and goods programs run under kde... why?
[02:33] <senectus> NoobSauce, all licenced properly of course
[02:33] <NetworkJester> crimsun.
[02:33] <NetworkJester> ??
[02:33] <NetworkJester> mmmmm what do i do now?
[02:33] <NoobSauce> senectus wow... I just looked it up and they actually do exist... although nobody uses these to my knowledge :P but they do exist!
[02:34] <crimsun> NetworkJester: have you pastebinned it?
[02:34] <NetworkJester> yeah i believe so
[02:34] <crimsun> NetworkJester: what's the url?
[02:34] <guerrilla> !gtk
[02:34] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, guerrilla
[02:34] <guerrilla> ><
[02:34] <NetworkJester> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13464
[02:34] <crimsun> NetworkJester: looks fine. What happens when you ``sudo apt-get install build-essential''?
[02:35] <NetworkJester> whoa!
[02:35] <NetworkJester> why did it ask for the cd before?
[02:35] <crimsun> NetworkJester: because that line was uncommented in your sources.list, and now it's not
[02:36] <Rudemeister> ok
[02:36] <NetworkJester> ah i c and that happened when i did which command?
[02:36] <crimsun> NetworkJester: whenever you changed sources.list (either through synaptic or manually)
[02:37] <NetworkJester> ok
[02:37] <NetworkJester> now a big question
[02:37] <NetworkJester> how do i use build-essential
[02:37] <NetworkJester> lol
[02:37] <nagi> hello
[02:37] <NetworkJester> hey
[02:37] <NetworkJester> is that a command now
[02:38] <NetworkJester> ??
[02:38] <rabbitear> build-essential is stuff you need to compile/build stuff..
[02:38] <Drac|Windows> NetworkJester, it's a package that installs a number of utilities that allows you to build things from source. Use "make" and "make install" to build things, and always do "./configure" if a "configure" file is existent.
[02:38] <NetworkJester> ah
[02:38] <NetworkJester> gotcha!
[02:38] <rabbitear> or is that just to make .deb's out of sources?
[02:38] <NetworkJester> ty
[02:38] <Drac|Windows> rabbitear, no, it's stuff like gcc and the like. Compiler bits.
[02:38] <atmasaro> CDs and DVDs just don't load right. Data DVDs will load like half the data and I'll have to restart and music CDs don't load at all in Sound Juicer. Any ideas?
[02:39] <NetworkJester> im gonna have another pastebin in a sec
[02:39] <NetworkJester> lol
[02:40] <rabbitear> I stilled most of the build-essetinals by hand, before I installed build-essentinals
[02:40] <rabbitear> not a complaint, just would have saved some time *shrugs*
[02:40] <rabbitear> I'm used to doing things the wrong way so I don't even know why I'm still talking right now lol
[02:40] <atmasaro> CDs and DVDs just don't load right. Data DVDs will load like half the data and I'll have to restart and music CDs don't load at all in Sound Juicer. Any ideas?
[02:41] <menisk> is ubuntu supposed to support a usb mouse?
[02:41] <NetworkJester> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13465
[02:41] <NetworkJester> ^^HELP^^
[02:41] <menisk> ?
[02:41] <rmulliga> How do I see what my current kernel version is?
[02:41] <DickDonkeysaber> A couple nights ago, I was licking jelly off my boyfriend's penis. And I thought, Oh, my God--I'm turning into my mother!
[02:42] <menisk> wen u boot it normally tells u
[02:42] <sethk> menisk, yes
[02:42] <sethk> rmulliga, you can see the kernel version with uname -a
[02:42] <NetworkJester> CRIMSUN:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13465
[02:42] <eXistenZ> I have a folder that contains like 3000 picture, when I open it the file manager stops responding and my cpu usage jumps to 100 =/
[02:42] <rabbitear> lol
[02:42] <rmulliga> sethk: Right!, Thanks... How do I update my kernel source to match that version in /usr/src/?
[02:43] <harisund> Is there some way I should tell my mplayer that w32codecs are installed? It doesn't seem to 'see' the installed w32codecs...
[02:43] <sethk> rmulliga, I forget the package name, but search for kernel in synaptic
[02:43] <guerrilla> ok, so, i'm trying to run azureus, which is a java program, and when i run it i get all sorts of exceptions thrown that refer to /usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0
[02:43] <sethk> rmulliga, no, search for linux
[02:43] <guerrilla> whats that all about?
[02:43] <crimsun> NetworkJester: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:43] <crimsun> NetworkJester: make sure you use CC=gcc-3.4
[02:43] <rmulliga> sethk: apt-cache search linux?
[02:43] <sethk> guerrilla, that's the java garbage collector, but I don't know why you are seeing exceptions.
[02:44] <sethk> rmulliga, that might work, but I was thinking about the search function in synaptic
[02:44] <baojdk> hey
[02:44] <baojdk> any Ubuntu PPC users here?
[02:44] <guerrilla> sethk: it starts out like this "DEBUG::Fri"
[02:44] <guerrilla> which looks normal
[02:45] <rmulliga> sethk: any idea how to narrow the search? like everythin in the cache contains the string linux
[02:45] <halley> sethk, gcj isn't the java garbage collector, it's gnu cc's java runtimes.  guerrilla, might try installing Sun's java runtimes or seeing if there are gcj conflicts for your software.
[02:45] <sethk> guerrilla, put it on the pastebot, I'd have to see more of it.
[02:45] <NetworkJester> crimsun: CC means what?
[02:45] <baojdk> i'm trying to get Gnutella working on PPC ubuntu,....can anybody help out?
[02:45] <sethk> halley, the garbage collector is in it, but you are correct, it isn't only the garbage collector
[02:45] <guerrilla> but after all that info it says "java.security.KeyStoreException: JKS" and spamms a whole bunch of "ats"
[02:45] <guerrilla> sethk whats paste bot
[02:45] <guerrilla> !paste_bot
[02:45] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, guerrilla
[02:45] <sethk> guerrilla, read the topic
[02:46] <guerrilla> k i'll pop it on there
[02:46] <crimsun> NetworkJester: that's an environment variable. ``export CC=gcc-3.4''
[02:46] <eXistenZ> Can anyone help me? :|
[02:47] <NetworkJester> what did that do?
[02:47] <AngryElf> eXistenZ, maybe
[02:47] <NetworkJester> i didnt see any response from bash
[02:47] <crimsun> NetworkJester: use the correct compiler version
[02:47] <crimsun> NetworkJester: that's correct
[02:47] <crimsun> echo $CC
[02:47] <rabbitear> of C
[02:48] <NetworkJester> i need to compile it?
[02:48] <BlueLaguna> do most .deb packages work with ubuntu?
[02:48] <rabbitear> I wonder if cc is in utuntu
[02:49] <guerrilla> sethk: errr i definatly put it on there under your name
[02:49] <sethk> guerrilla, doesn't matter, but you'll have to paste the url
[02:49] <serp> !dual screens
[02:49] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, serp
[02:49] <|Lord_Zoo|> hi people, I need to mount a LVM partition, but the main partition is ext3
[02:49] <|Lord_Zoo|> is there any extra module that I have to load?
[02:49] <rmulliga> Is it safe to update the sym-link linux in /usr/src to a later version of the source?
[02:49] <baojdk> any Ubuntu PPC users here?
[02:50] <siimo> rmulliga, why do you want to do that
[02:50] <siimo> rmulliga, you need current version of source if you are building modules
[02:50] <philipsmith> Evolution is not working correctly.... will not list read email
[02:50] <guerrilla> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13466
[02:50] <rmulliga> siimo: Yea, it's not currently set to the latest version of my kernel
[02:50] <NetworkJester> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13467
[02:50] <serp> is it possible that I have to edit xorg.conf manually to get dual screens working?
[02:51] <siimo> rmulliga, well then it will be fine you can set it to your current kernel source
[02:51] <rmulliga> siimo: my kernal version is 2.6.16-9 but the linux symlink is set to 2.6.12-9
[02:51] <sethk> guerrilla, you have to install the SSL package
[02:52] <guerrilla> sthk: ahh
[02:52] <rmulliga> siimo: is some package supposed to take care of updating that for me?
[02:52] <philipsmith> Hi. Anybody know about evolution?
[02:52] <baojdk> any Ubuntu PPC users here?
[02:52] <siimo> rmulliga, im not sure i dont touch it, but i remove old kernels once im sure new one works
[02:53] <guerrilla> sethk: is there a synaptic package for SSL?
[02:53] <NetworkJester> so has anyone else had a problem with a riptide pci audio controller sound card and found a way to fix it
[02:53] <|Lord_Zoo|> nobody?
[02:53] <NetworkJester> ??
[02:53] <|Lord_Zoo|> :(
[02:53] <rabbitear> siimo, anymore that sym-link is kinda a dated thing
[02:53] <sethk> guerrilla, yes, name may be ssh, which is an ssl implementation.  Anyone know the SSL package off the top of your head?
[02:53] <NetworkJester> so has anyone else had a problem with a riptide pci audio controller sound card and found a way to fix it
[02:53] <rabbitear> siimo, if your not building from source at all
[02:53] <siimo> rmulliga, and even when i dont have a symlink things that need it detect my correct kernel source in its own directory anyway
[02:54] <sethk> rabbitear, the symlink?  Not at all
[02:54] <guerrilla> sethk: i have the ssh stuff installed
[02:54] <rabbitear> okay, I'l be quiet
[02:54] <NetworkJester> bummer
[02:54] <NetworkJester> well thanks for the help guys!
[02:54] <rabbitear> my cat just throw up anyway
[02:54] <guerrilla> sethk: i use ssh to connect to the box, its headless (mostly)
[02:54] <rmulliga> siimo: oh ok.
[02:54] <rmulliga> siimo: thank you.
[02:54] <sethk> guerrilla, you probably need the development part
[02:55] <philipsmith> Any Evolution experts out there?
[02:55] <siimo> rmulliga, worry about it when you have to
[02:55] <mowgly> Hello : D
[02:55] <mowgly> I'm tryin
[02:55] <BlueLaguna> do most .deb packages work with ubuntu?
[02:55] <mowgly> g to change the gcc version : o
[02:55] <mowgly> the default gcc version how can i do ?
[02:56] <rabbitear> sethk, the /usr/src/linux sym-link ...
[02:56] <siimo> BlueLaguna, not all, some may be for older version of ubuntu/debian/other debian derived distro
[02:56] <sethk> rabbitear, nothing obsolete about that
[02:57] <siimo> BlueLaguna, if you want to keep your system clean then don't use any package that doesn't say its for the specific version of your ubuntu
[02:57] <rabbitear> you probably right.... I guess *I* just don't need it ... its probably a hfs or whatever standard or soemthing
[02:57] <guerrilla> sethk: i did a search for ssl inside the synaptic, and got back a whole bunch of stuff, what should i be looking for
[02:57] <sethk> rabbitear, if you compile source packages that look for kernel files, you need it.
[02:58] <winy> Hello
[02:58] <sethk> guerrilla, let me look at the paste again.  I just install everything, which takes care of it.  :)
[02:58] <mikeo1> is direct rendering possible in xgl?
[02:58] <rabbitear> sethk, *nods* .. but 2.6 has the build info in /lib/modules/xxx/build yadda yadda..
[02:59] <sethk> rabbitear, for kernel modules, yes.  but lots of other software looks for kernel files.  probably shouldn't, but they do
[02:59] <rabbitear> which is also a symlink to the operating kernel...
[02:59] <teimu> i have a .deb file that i want to install. how do i get into it?
[02:59] <rabbitear> but I'm not trying to be right...
[02:59] <guerrilla> : lol
[03:00] <sethk> guerrilla, I can't really tell from the trace.  It can't find a component that stores and retrieves keys, but I don't know which package is related to that.
[03:00] <guerrilla> sethk: hmm ok thanks for your help=D
[03:00] <_ubuntu> panget pala Dapper hehehe
[03:00] <_ubuntu> mali
[03:02] <rabbitear> teimu, you could try 'dpkg' but it might not install
[03:08] <nickrud> teimu, you probably don't want to use that exact deb file you randomly got off the net: what is it, and what is it you're trying to accomplish?
[03:08] <mick> can anyone tel me what i need to add to my fstab to make mounted ntfs drives viewable (currently don't have permission to vie them
[03:08] <nickrud> !ntfs
[03:08] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:09] <teimu> nickrud, its a dependency file for openssh
[03:09] <_jason> mick: read the table about half way down the page ubotu just said.  It discusses how to set permissions on ntfs
[03:09] <teimu> see the thing is, synaptic offers the openssh-client, which i have, but i want to get the server. however, when i mark it for install, it gives me an error that there is a version mismatch between these two packages. the client is 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4 and the server is 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1. synaptic does not offer matching versions for these two packages. what should i do?
[03:09] <nickrud> teimu, openssh is natively supported by ubuntu, what the heck are you doing :)
[03:09] <teimu> i want the server
[03:10] <nickrud> teimu, could you do paste the entire error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:10] <teimu> sure
[03:11] <Xenguy> teimu: switch mirrors or check your /etc/apt/sources.list file  ?
[03:11] <Cattack> I have a qustion....how do you have a /home that multiple distros use without having them refuse to let you login due to settings issues?
[03:11] <rmulliga> Has anyone seen a "BadAlloc" error when running a fglrxinfo when trying to set up graphics acceleration?
[03:11] <Cattack> I am planning a 3 Distro linux box but I want every distro on it to use the same usernames and /home
[03:11] <rabbitear> !ssh
[03:11] <ubotu> hmm... ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[03:11] <sethk> Cattack, there is no answer to that in general
[03:12] <NoobSauce> tritium, it worked! somehow I got the nvidia drivers to install!
[03:12] <sethk> Cattack, you could, for example, use an empty home directory, but I doubt that will be terribly useful
[03:12] <rabbitear> I'm so wise
[03:12] <nickrud> Xenguy, seems likey, yes
[03:12] <Cattack> I am trying to achieve something simular to what they do at college.....I login on any of their *nix boxes and my home directory follows me.
[03:12] <NoobSauce> tritium, I have no idea what was stopping me, but I just did apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and somehow it worked
[03:13] <teimu> nickrud and Xenguy , i just did apt-get update, and now i can download the packages! thanks for the help guys. i was using old repositories =P
[03:13] <AngryElf> does w32codecs come in ppc form?
[03:13] <nickrud> teimu, heh. I'll take it :)
[03:13] <Cattack> I am after the same but on the same box in a multiboot enviroment.
[03:13] <sneex> AngryElf, nope
[03:13] <Cattack> I know they do it cross linux and Solaris 9
[03:14] <AngryElf> so there's no way to play mp3s on my ppc?
[03:14] <nickrud> !mp3
[03:14] <AngryElf> or dvds with libdvdcss2?
[03:14] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:14] <sneex> yes
[03:14] <sneex> you can play mp3s
[03:14] <biovore> mp3 should be able to work on anything using lame
[03:14] <sneex> but not wmv
[03:14] <nickrud> !tell AngryElf about dvddvdcs
[03:14] <sneex> brb
[03:14] <nickrud> !tell AngryElf about dvddvdcss
[03:15] <rabbitear> !sshd
[03:15] <ubotu> sshd is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[03:15] <|Lord_Zoo|> !meaning of life
[03:15] <ubotu> |Lord_Zoo|: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:15] <AngryElf> !dvd
[03:15] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[03:15] <sneex> AngryElf, rwad the stuff Ive posted here:  http://dw.ccsh.us/doku.php?id=ubuntu.insecurity.org&s=ubuntu
[03:15] <rabbitear> !meaningoflife
[03:15] <ubotu> rabbitear: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:15] <nickrud> AngryElf, ergh, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , look on that page for libdvdread3, that's where you'll find a libdvdcss2 that works
[03:16] <|Lord_Zoo|> haha :)
[03:16] <guerrilla> has anyone been able to get azureus running on ubuntu?
[03:16] <guerrilla> i get all sorts of exceptions
[03:16] <_jason> !azureus
[03:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[03:16] <|Lord_Zoo|> guerrilla, use automatix
[03:16] <guerrilla> oo that soundes interesting, where can i grab that
[03:16] <|Lord_Zoo|> to install azureus
[03:17] <|Lord_Zoo|> !automatix
[03:17] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:17] <sneex> !tell sneex about dvddvdcss
[03:17] <sneex> \=
[03:17] <sneex> =/
[03:17] <sneex> lol
[03:17] <_jason> !dvd
[03:17] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[03:17] <nickrud> !easyubuntu
[03:17] <|Lord_Zoo|> well, er...
[03:17] <kbrooks> guerrilla: DO NOT recommend automatix
[03:17] <OrTigaS> its automatic install the keypadlock that irritating somehow :)
[03:17] <kbrooks> er
[03:17] <kbrooks> |Lord_Zoo|: DO NOT recommend automatix
[03:17] <YukiCuss> |Lord_Zoo|, not automatix.
[03:17] <kbrooks> guerrilla: sry
[03:18] <guerrilla> kbrooks: haha ok
[03:18] <|Lord_Zoo|> ok ok, didn't know it, get the poitn
[03:18] <YukiCuss> nickrud, you can PM ubotu if you want to see its messages.
[03:18] <|Lord_Zoo|> point
[03:18] <sneex> !tell sneex about dvdcss
[03:18] <nickrud> heh. automatix sucks,I guess we all agree on that
[03:18] <nickrud> YukiCuss, thanks
[03:18] <YukiCuss> :)
[03:18] <guerrilla> well how can i find out excactly what i'm missing for azureus
[03:19] <starman> Hi to all
[03:19] <OrTigaS> how to uninstall that automatix? on the aptitude? and it will uninstall other
[03:19] <_jason> guerrilla: did you visit the link ubotu mentioned about azureus?
[03:19] <|Lord_Zoo|> guerrilla, you never heard from me about automatix
[03:19] <|Lord_Zoo|> :D
[03:19] <starman> I finally made it work hurraah
[03:19] <nickrud> !frostwire
[03:19] <guerrilla> auto what, i don't know what you're talking about=D
[03:19] <_jason> guerrilla: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[03:19] <nickrud> !+frostwire
[03:19] <ubotu> frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/ note: the file /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh in the 4.10.9 release is in dos format, and should be converted to 'nix format using dos2unix (install the sysutils package if you do not have this command)
[03:19] <kbrooks> OrTigaS: apt-get remove automatix
[03:19] <|Lord_Zoo|> anyway, it's not so hard to make azureus work, if you have JRE installed
[03:19] <OrTigaS> thanks kbrooks
[03:20] <OrTigaS> is anyone installed/run modem under 536ep chipset here?
[03:20] <OrTigaS> PCI modem
[03:20] <starman> how are duo processors working on ubuntu
[03:21] <starman> I am about to buy a duo processor dell laptop to run on linux
[03:21] <mike930> is there a way to change that ugly brown color background that shows up during login splash screen?
[03:22] <starman> you can do your own
[03:22] <starman> I did mine although it sucked
[03:22] <noiesmo> mike930, gdmsetup
[03:22] <Cattack> Is there a way to use a normal  ubuntu install load but tell it not to use DHCP for the network?
[03:22] <nickrud> starman, the latest dapper kernel is supposed to not differentiate between non smp and smp or hyperthreaded non-hyperthreaded processors.
[03:22] <mike930> thanks
[03:22] <Cattack> *without using ubuntu-expert
[03:23] <mike930> dang, they stuck the color portion in the bottom and I didn't even see it
[03:24] <starman> nickrud, intel duo processors are emt64?
[03:24] <DarkLegacy> Sup guys
[03:25] <noiesmo> not much just hangin
[03:25] <rabbitear> I've never heard anyone complain about duo processors...
[03:25] <nickrud> starman, I'm gonna quote myself:  nickrud walks away from his last post, he was talking just above his level
[03:25] <rabbitear> I think intel tests there cpu's on linux before windows..
[03:27] <rendo> Jesus Christ, does anyone know why Firefox won't stay maximized?  I max it, close it and it loads back up shrunk again,  can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[03:29] <Saint`Peter> rabbitear: anything would score better on linux :-p
[03:30] <rendo> Anyone?
[03:30] <rabbitear> ya but thats not the reason I think, its because, its more stable, and they can't tell whats going on with a win box...
[03:30] <Das> I atempted to instal hoary on my computer, when I did I got an error installing the base componets, thinking it was the disk I tried again with a new Breezy I still got an error while installing. I got "Error downloading zlib1g", "Error installing core packages", and "error (returned error 2)"
[03:30] <rabbitear> :)
[03:30] <NoobSauce> rendo isn't it supposed to do that?
[03:30] <noiesmo> rendo, i have had this happen but i cannot remember at mo how i fixed it sorry
[03:30] <starman> nickrud, I would like to know if intel duo are 64bit I will have to look on that
[03:30] <rendo> I want it to be MAXIMIZED it loads up shrunk and crap. :@:@:@
[03:31] <rendo> It angers me to no end.
[03:31] <starman> I dont want to pay a big amount of maney otherwise
[03:31] <rabbitear> info from the the linux link tech show.... had an intel guy on afew weeks ago...
[03:31] <starman> by the way I am having problems with wobbly plugin in amd64 compiz
[03:31] <Das> Could it be my computer is too old? XP installed on it just fine
[03:31] <starman> as well as with gconf plugin
[03:31] <rabbitear> maybe a month or two by now..
[03:32] <rabbitear> *I think* current duo's are all 32-bit...... still
[03:32] <nickrud> starman, 'intel duo' as I see it is a marketing thing; it's still 32bit os
[03:32] <Das> Anyone?
[03:33] <dli> nickrud, isn't it "intel core duo"?
[03:33] <NoobSauce> starman when I ran it as amd64 I had problems with the wobby effect as well as the adjustable transparency
[03:33] <rabbitear> rendo, you could delete the prefereces.. but then you might lose your bookmarks,passwords,etc
[03:33] <dli> Das, state your question again?
[03:33] <Das> dli: [18:30]  <Das> I atempted to instal hoary on my computer, when I did I got an error installing the base componets, thinking it was the disk I tried again with a new Breezy I still got an error while installing. I got "Error downloading zlib1g", "Error installing core packages", and "error (returned error 2)"
[03:33] <NoobSauce> starman I never found a fix for it... what kind of wobbly windows problems are you having? Mine would stay as odd shapes unless you dragged it just right
[03:33] <nickrud> dli, I'm gonna stand by my disclaimer above; I'm learning as we talk
[03:34] <starman> if i try to use wobbly it just does not work
[03:34] <rendo> 1 sec.
[03:34] <rabbitear> nickrud, I read a dual cpu vs. duo ... there are some advantages.... like price... power usage, complexitely of motherboard..
[03:34] <starman> if I try to use gconf same thing
[03:34] <dli> Das, okay, download the breezy iso image again, check md5sum, and burn it at 4x speed, with "Verification"
[03:34] <rendo> @#^#@:^%#!@:%!@: SAME CRAP didn't laod full
[03:34] <NoobSauce> starman you might check if you made a type in the gconf-editor,, that's possible
[03:35] <NoobSauce> starman what do you mean by gconf?
[03:35] <nickrud> rabbitear, if you can delineate it for the rest of us (but I'm gonna keep my little desktop)
[03:35] <rabbitear> and, you can get a dual cpu, mobo, and put two duo's on both slots, and have a 4-cpu machine
[03:35] <starman> example
[03:35] <starman> you can run compiz like this
[03:35] <rendo> Did you mean the preferences file?
[03:35] <starman> compiz --replace gconf wobbly ... etc
[03:35] <starman> well gconf is a plugin
[03:35] <dli> rabbitear, and, you could still have superthreading of each core :)
[03:35] <boabsta> rendo, have you tried in #firefox?
[03:35] <starman> if I omit it then it works
[03:35] <Das> dli: The hoary disk I used worked on an install on another computer, so I'm starting to think it's the computer. Are there minumum requirments for Ubuntu?
[03:36] <rendo> I didn't know about there, thank you.
[03:36] <starman> it sometimes complains depending on the order of the plugins
[03:36] <nickrud> compiz/xgl: pretty nice, pretty broken. Wait. It'll be something worth using next year, maybe if we're lucky, with eft
[03:36] <Das> Or more importantly, are they more than XP?
[03:36] <Das> dli
[03:36] <dli> Das, pentium ?
[03:36] <rabbitear> rendo, I don't know the Exact file, kinda brute force too
[03:36] <starman> which are actually listed under /usr/lib/compiz
[03:36] <Das> dli, 3
[03:36] <dli> Das, I don't know XP
[03:36] <rabbitear> dli, *nods*
[03:36] <Das> Mmmm
[03:36] <dli> Das, you want to install ubuntu on a 385?
[03:36] <dli> Das, 386
[03:37] <rabbitear> I'm po tho, still got my p4-2.6 :)
[03:37] <Das> Well, should I re-download, or reburn? dli
[03:37] <starman> It is a pity I dont get that cool wobblying effect but this still has some nice things like the cube, or the moving windows. No switcher working, it may have something to do with key bindings, etc
[03:37] <dli> Das, yes, that's the correct way to do it
[03:37] <Das> dli, I believe its 386
[03:37] <NoobSauce> nickrud it worked more reliably than kde for me. I think if you get it to work, it's awesome, but if it doesn't work, there's nothing you can do about it
[03:37] <starman> you guys really think Intel duo is 32bit?
[03:37] <dli> Das, how much RAM do you have?
[03:38] <boabsta> does anyone know a good package/script for converting AVI to DVD format? I had a script for KDE a while ago so when you right clicked a AVI file there would be options in the context menu to convert it
[03:38] <starman> that is a crap
[03:38] <NoobSauce> starman I have no idea what could be wrong, if you followed the howto EXACTLY, then that's just bizarre
[03:38] <dli> starman, it's called "intel core duo" :(
[03:38] <Das> dli, 216 I think
[03:38] <starman> oh dli thank you very much
[03:38] <Das> *256
[03:38] <dli> Das, probably, it's not a 386
[03:38] <starman> I couldnt be more grateful for your help :D
[03:38] <Cattack> Just a thought but couldnt ubuntu offer an intermediant install?  Something like the FC5 install that will give you more control over the install and the ability to add additional packages at install time without having to provide all of the expert mode parameters and such durring install.
[03:38] <Das> dli, Should I download a different iso?
[03:39] <Eduardo-> Im using Ubuntu to share my connection at home.. now i want to install a software that shows some information about my lan (kb/s per ip, mb per ip and etc).. Anybody knows a good one? that i can install with apt get?
[03:39] <dli> starman, want 64 bit dual core, wait untill July
[03:39] <starman> oh really... hmmm
[03:39] <rabbitear> if you wanna use a webbrowser a p2-300 feels slow ... ... rest of the usual suspects of software, runs fine
[03:39] <dli> Das, download breezy
[03:39] <starman> I want a laptop with 64 bit
[03:39] <hierophant> will someone help out with chatzilla
[03:39] <barktpolar> Question, Is it possible to use a wireless router with Ubuntu
[03:39] <starman> I have been using a 64bit environment for 2 years now (debian 64 till a couple of days ago)
[03:39] <Das> dli, I did
[03:40] <dli> starman, or May the 9th, turion x2 from amd, 64 bit, and way better than "core duo"
[03:40] <Das> I guess I'll re-try
[03:40] <dli> Das, check md5sum of the .iso
[03:40] <starman> paying like 2000euros for a 32bit does not seem the proper thing to do
[03:40] <Das> dli, How do I do that?
[03:40] <noctrine> Is there anything that would stop the guided partition thingie from working? Whenever I try to do the install all that comes up is the manual partition thing and no tables are shown where they say there should be some
[03:40] <dli> starman, I heard turion x2 will be cheaper than core duo
[03:40] <starman> dli the problem is that almost no one sells amd laptops
[03:41] <starman> the ones that do sell them, ask for a loooot of money
[03:41] <dli> starman, asus, fuji, hp/compaq
[03:41] <[gijoe] > dapper drake, efty eft, fucked up fugl.. what's next? what's wrong with just plain old verion numbering?
[03:41] <_sHaDe> Notte a Tutti
[03:41] <starman> expensive and with shitty graphics cards
[03:41] <dli> starman, amd usually goes nvidia
[03:41] <kbrooks> starman: they have to ask for a lot of money
[03:42] <kbrooks> starman: supply/demand:
[03:42] <Das> dli, md5sum?
[03:42] <starman> whereas dell seems to be the only one to have a powerfull Nvidia Quadro 2500 512mb
[03:42] <nickrud> [gijoe] , ?
[03:42] <starman> each time I think about that graphics card I get ....
[03:42] <dli> starman, turion64 from hp/compaq is affordable, but not of the good quality as asus/fuji
[03:43] <rabbitear> no luggable gaming tops have 64 bits?
[03:43] <barktpolar> I wanted to know that,because I have a Nintendo DS and I wanted to use Ninetnd WFC, but the WiFi USB Connector only supprots Windows XP, so I was wondering if it's possible to use a wireless router with Ubuntu
[03:43] <nickrud> [gijoe] , eh. what's 'old verion numbering' ?
[03:43] <dli> Das, google md5sum
[03:43] <kbrooks> [gijoe] : those are codenames.
[03:43] <mick> how do you set file type associations?
[03:43] <rabbitear> barktpolar, I have a DS and go thru the wifi router :)
[03:43] <rabbitear> no usb ness..
[03:44] <dli> where are the big brothers of this channel?
[03:44] <kbrooks> nickrud: 0.0.1, 0.1.0, 1.0.0, etc
[03:44] <starman> rabbitear, I play AAO in 64 with 32 bit compatibility layer
[03:44] <tony_> can anyone help me with wine?
[03:44] <dli> tony_, just ask
[03:44] <kbrooks> dli: why?
[03:44] <starman> amd has shitty cache memories
[03:44] <rabbitear> the duo's are 32-bit...
[03:44] <noctrine> Is there anything that would stop the guided partition thingie from working? Whenever I try to do the install all that comes up is the manual partition thing and no tables are shown where they say there should be some
[03:45] <rabbitear> so far.. the next ones are suppose to be 64
[03:45] <starman> damn I dont like that news rabbitear
[03:45] <dli> kbrooks, those ones watching over you
[03:45] <tony_> well im wanting to install ventrilo...but when i open it when wine and install it..i dont get an icon on my desktop...how do i open it?
[03:45] <starman> rabbitear, when are those due?
[03:45] <kbrooks> dli: dont scare me
[03:45] <rabbitear> of intel.. *shrugs*
[03:45] <rabbitear> tllts.org
[03:45] <rabbitear> search for intel
[03:45] <kbrooks> dli: the ops. why do you want them? i could ping them for you with a single command, but...
[03:46] <starman> did you heard that crap about amd pretending to release a L3 cache of 8mb?
[03:46] <dli> kbrooks, not scared, just disgusted, when you are helping users, the nasty ones jump out, and try to discipline you
[03:46] <rabbitear> and sorry I don't recall names very well, (bad bad bad habit)... other wise I'd tell you the specific guest
[03:46] <kbrooks> dli: um, discipline?
[03:46] <dli> tony_, I'm not sure why wine should make icons for you
[03:46] <tony_> well it did in fedora core 5...im new to ubuntu
[03:47] <starman> how much worthed is a 8mb L3 cache, versus a RAM memroy with 600 something mhz and processor speed of around 1800 mhz
[03:47] <tony_> i dont know how to open the program....
[03:47] <dli> kbrooks, yeah, just some evil ops, while nobody is watching over them
[03:47] <tony_> but it says its instlalled when i dbl click the icon again
[03:47] <rabbitear> even the nice ones get nasty evenutally!
[03:47] <kbrooks> dli: we dont do that
[03:47] <rabbitear> :)
[03:47] <rabbitear> brb
[03:47] <starman> wouldnt it be approximately the same as not having an L3 cache?? I do not know much about this but some1 may be able to clarify this to me
[03:47] <dli> tony_, I see, then, wine should make a link for you
[03:48] <tony_> where would the link be at?
[03:48] <tony_> dli: sorry..im a noob
[03:48] <sethk> dli, I can't wait until someday I'll be an op, and I'll kick everybody on the channel except for me.  I might even ban myself.
[03:48] <dli> tony_, however, it's not so difficult to find the .exe in your fake_windows, and make the link
[03:48] <luke> is it difficult to install Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu?
[03:48] <noiesmo> no
[03:48] <tony_> is the fake windows in my sbin?
[03:48] <dli> luke, should be easy, follow the ubuntu nvidia howto
[03:48] <noiesmo> ubotu, tell luke about nvidia
[03:48] <tony_> i dont understand where its located
[03:49] <luke> dli noiesmo I tried to, but i couldnt find my kernel source
[03:49] <dli> tony_, should be under your ~/.wine, if not sure, run "winecfg"
[03:49] <dli> luke, does the howto mention something like "linux-headers"?
[03:49] <noiesmo> luke install the kernel headers should do it
[03:49] <luke> ah ic ty guys
[03:49] <tony_> k..this is going to sound stupid..but how do i get to ~.wine?
[03:50] <dli> sethk: I forgot the nick of the op who jumped out, warned almost everyone, "off-topic"
[03:50] <luke> i want to try out Xgl, looks pretty cool
[03:50] <starman> luke it is incredibly hard
[03:50] <starman> sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx
[03:50] <sethk> dli, happens sometimes, I know.  I'm an op on some other channels, but I haven't kicked anybody in at least two months
[03:50] <Fujitsu> like, it's fairly easy. Join #ubuntu-xgl for discussion.
[03:51] <starman> you can also download linux sources, compile them and then compile nvidia. I wont take too long to do this
[03:51] <tony_> sweet..i got it figured out..thanks a lot dli
[03:51] <dli> sethk, I don't go to #gentoo nowadays, because the stupid doc|home there, this is one op which I remember
[03:51] <sethk> dli, there are a few channels like that I don't go to.  Too much ego.  This one doesn't usually suffer from that.
[03:51] <tony_> one more question dli..
[03:52] <sethk> dli, the only trouble I have here is when they yell at me for not going along with the "root is disabled" myth
[03:52] <tony_> how do i launch the application?
[03:52] <walkonwater> how can I change date and time from the CLI?
[03:52] <walkonwater> how can I change date and time from the CLI? as the toolbar wont load
[03:52] <dli> sethk, yet, who wants to live in a communist state?
[03:52] <sethk> walkonwater, the date command
[03:52] <walkonwater> sethk: type "date"?
[03:52] <sethk> walkonwater, you have to be root to change it
[03:52] <sethk> walkonwater, yes.  man date will show you the format to change the time and/or date
[03:52] <dli> sethk, right, then, I have type "sudo" again and again to help someone
[03:53] <walkonwater> sethk: jhow do I get root?
[03:53] <dli> tony_, "wine foo.exe"
[03:53] <tony_> thank you
[03:53] <rabbitear> in way it is kinda sad, its irc.......
[03:53] <nagi> bye.
[03:53] <sethk> walkonwater, root is there.  If you did the default install, then the password isn't set.  use "sudo passwd" to set the root password
[03:53] <rabbitear> you don't have the ablity to see how nasty somebody really is
[03:53] <rabbitear> lol
[03:53] <dli> sethk, it's not the typing, but typing the same thing again and again really sucks
[03:54] <ggoogi> where should look to see all the 'ln'ed files?
[03:54] <noctrine> Is there anyway to install Ubuntu, without having to go through that partition stuff?
[03:54] <sethk> dli, well, you can argue that either way.  What I object to is pretending that the ubuntu developers did something to stop you from becoming root.  that's simply not true.
[03:54] <Fujitsu> noctrine, you /have/ to partition!
[03:54] <ggoogi> noctrine: no.
[03:55] <walkonwater> sethk: I already have a root password, dont I?
[03:55] <dli> ggoogi, symbolic ones? "find / -type l"
[03:55] <walkonwater> sethk: whats the command so I can get to root to change date?
[03:55] <ggoogi> dli: thanks. :)
[03:55] <sethk> walkonwater, depends on whether you've set it.  If you did the expert install, yes.
[03:55] <halley> If you need to do a series of commands, sudo su.
[03:55] <sethk> walkonwater, sudo date
[03:55] <_nathan> I have a question: a lot of programs I've installed with the package manager, I can't find in the program list.  I'm using dapper.
[03:55] <walkonwater> sethk: how can I check?
[03:55] <Fujitsu> halley, sudo -i is better!
[03:55] <sethk> walkonwater, date with no arguments displays the current date/time
[03:55] <walkonwater> sethk: when I type sudo date; all it says is: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May  6 09:30:24 2006
[03:55] <Zarephath> Anyone use axigen email server?
[03:55] <noctrine> For some reason it won't let me do the parition thing, the guided thing doesn't show up, and when I try to do it the manual way I don't see any of the tables that are supposed to come up (I think?)
[03:55] <dli> sethk, I remember yesterday, somebody asked for help here, "I did rm -rf /var", how to fix it
[03:56] <dli> sethk: then, I saw some logic of disabling root by default
[03:56] <walkonwater> sethk: sudo passwd
[03:56] <walkonwater> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May  6 09:30:24 2006
[03:56] <sethk> dli, rm -fr is just a mite dangerous  :)
[03:56] <_nathan> any ideas?
[03:56] <walkonwater> sethk: I think you are giving me wrong commands!  All they say is: timestamp too far in the future:
[03:56] <sethk> walkonwater, rejecting timestamps in the future is a security precaution
[03:56] <halley> Fujitsu, wasn't aware of it.  From (man sudo), looks kinda like (sudo su -) but whose .bashrc is it reading, yours or roots?
[03:56] <sethk> walkonwater, but to set the date, you do sudo date
[03:56] <walkonwater> sethk: OK! :) hehe!  so how can I change date from root is all I want to know ;)
[03:57] <dli> sethk, yes, nautilus is better, but, sudo nautilus? no display found
[03:57] <Fujitsu> halley, root's. It's the proper way to do things.
[03:57] <walkonwater> sethk: you listening? :P LOL
[03:57] <_nathan> Where would the programs be you think?
[03:57] <sethk> halley, with the -, it should be root's, but that's one reason I don't like sudo
[03:57] <sethk> walkonwater, date
[03:57] <nix4me> anyone have a working printer hooked to ubuntu that windows machines can print to?  i really could use some help
[03:57] <walkonwater> sethk: when I type sudo date; all it says is: timestamp too far in the future: May  6 09:30:24 2006
[03:57] <walkonwater> sethk: same thing when I type date
[03:57] <sethk> walkonwater, yes, I already explained that.
[03:57] <Zarephath> Riddle me this everyone...I can ping mail.the-herndons.org and it replies...I believe my port forwarding may not be happening for ports 25 and 110...how can I check this to make sure it is actually trying to connect to my mail server?
[03:57] <walkonwater> sethk: any other ideas?
[03:57] <rabbitear> noctrine, auto-matic partitions did not work?
[03:57] <vale> hello from chile....
[03:57] <walkonwater> sethk: it wont allow me to change date
[03:57] <sethk> walkonwater, I don't need another idea, you need to tell my why you set a date in the future
[03:57] <_nathan> nix4me: Network or parralell or usb?
[03:57] <halley> How is (sudo -i) different from (sudo su -).
[03:58] <sethk> walkonwater, no, you are confused.
[03:58] <halley> walkonwater, (man date)
[03:58] <rabbitear> noctrine, or is that some kinda of mult-dual boot?
[03:58] <nix4me> usp
[03:58] <nix4me> usb
[03:58] <Zarephath> hey vale:
[03:58] <ggoogi> how do i remove symlink?
[03:58] <sethk> walkonwater, it won't let you do lot's of things, because you have a date in the future
[03:58] <walkonwater> sethk: I didnt, its Saturday 6 and it says Fri 5
[03:58] <dane> cani use wine to install iTunes?
[03:58] <Fujitsu> ggoogi, just rm it.
[03:58] <nix4me> printer works fine from local linux machine
[03:58] <sethk> walkonwater, that's most likely GMT
[03:58] <Zarephath> rm -f <name of symlink>
[03:58] <walkonwater> sethk: now how do I change date from 5th to 6th?
[03:58] <Fujitsu> dane, check appdb.winehq.org
[03:58] <nix4me> just cant print to it from windows machines
[03:58] <ggoogi> thanks. :)
[03:58] <vale> any chatroom's ubuntu in spanish?
[03:58] <sethk> walkonwater, man date tells you exactly how
[03:58] <Fujitsu> !es
[03:58] <walkonwater> sethk: so im stuck with a system with a date thats 1 day old?
[03:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:58] <Zarephath> walkonwater: Just type date and put it in the format it needs
[03:58] <nix4me> across the network
[03:58] <walkonwater> Zarephath: what you mean?
[03:59] <dli> sethk: how to sudo with X ?
[03:59] <sethk> walkonwater, first of all (you aren't listening), you don't _have_ a system with the wrong date
[03:59] <_nathan> Nix4me: it should be pretty easygo to administration, printing...
[03:59] <noiesmo> !gksu
[03:59] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noiesmo
[03:59] <rabbitear> noctrine, "auto-matic partitioning" is what you want if you don't wanna mess with it
[03:59] <sethk> dli, KDE has a sudo app.  I think gnome does also
[03:59] <walkonwater> sethk: it says fri 5, but its sat 6th!  How do I change it?
[03:59] <Zarephath> walkonwater: I mean type date followed by the correct syntax for the date time entry..try "man date" without quotes to get a clue
[03:59] <walkonwater> Zarephath: ok
[03:59] <sethk> walkonwater, you don't.  try listening.  you are probably displaying the date in GMT
[03:59] <Fujitsu> nix4me, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
 i agree, but ive spent 16 hours so far
[03:59] <sethk> walkonwater, in GMT, it _is_ the 6th
[03:59] <dli> sethk, that's quite stupid :( couldn't they just set up sudo environment to use X locally?
[04:00] <sethk> dli, you could, sure
[04:00] <nix4me> ive been using linux for 8 years, never had this much of a problem
[04:00] <_nathan> 16!!! Is your printer listed?
[04:00] <Rudemeister> whatw
[04:00] <dli> sethk, that's why I don't like the way of ubuntu, it can be done easily :(
[04:00] <sethk> nix4me, you are having a printing problem?
[04:00] <walkonwater> it keeps saying: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May  6
[04:01] <walkonwater> sethk: it seems im unable to change it to correct!
[04:01] <dli> walkonwater, correct you time, "date"
[04:01] <sethk> walkonwater, yes, because it thinks you are trying to cheat, and that is because it is confused about the time zone
[04:01] <_nathan> nix?
[04:01] <walkonwater> sethk: so whats the solution?
 yes.  i have a printer attached to ubuntu.  i cant print to it form windows machines
[04:01] <luke> why is it that I can only install nvidia-settings OR nvidia-glx. if i want to install one it says I have to remove the other
[04:01] <sethk> walkonwater, probably you told it during install that your clock is set to local time, but in fact your clock is set to GMT
[04:01] <walkonwater> sethk: so whats the solution?
[04:01] <sethk> walkonwater, the solution is to reboot, go into BIOS setup, and correct the date there
[04:01] <walkonwater> sethk: ok
[04:01] <walkonwater> bye
[04:01] <rabbitear> there's not a 'GOOD' console 'runlevel' for installing Nvidia drivers from Nvidas website
[04:01] <dli> luke, weird, but just install nvidia-glx, nvidia-settings is optional
[04:01] <Zarephath> OMG sethk: That was tough..heh
[04:01] <luke> ah ok
[04:01] <nix4me> nathan - yes i can see the printer
[04:01] <nix4me> just cant print
[04:01] <sethk> damn, I type 120 WPM and he keeps asking the same question before I answer it.  :)
[04:02] <rabbitear> but I guess, if you wanna do that, you should know what your doing anyway..
[04:02] <sethk> nix4me, what happens?
[04:02] <nix4me> nothing
[04:02] <sethk> nix4me, no errors?   what does lpstat show?
[04:02] <_nathan> nix: do you have the recomended drivers?
[04:02] <dli> sethk, another thing, why does ubuntu hack "glxgears" to require "-printfps" to get fps
[04:02] <sethk> dli, no idea
[04:02] <dli> sethk, it's not so in debian
[04:02] <nix4me> it never gets to the linux machine
[04:02] <nix4me> no errors in logs
[04:02] <Fujitsu> Or -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[04:03] <Fujitsu> Which is more explanatory.
[04:03] <luke> yay nvidia drivers installed
[04:03] <Zarephath> nix4me: Well if you are sure that www.linuxprinting.org has your printer listed with a *Fully* capable printer driver it should work...otherwise download turboprint and use the free version....which is fine if you just need black and white
[04:03] <sethk> nix4me, you are trying to print from windows?
[04:03] <dli> Fujitsu, printing out a message is enough
[04:03] <dd> hi
 yes
[04:03] <tony_> i have ventrilo.exe in my winecfg gui...how do i start the program?
[04:03] <nix4me> my printer works fine in linux
[04:03] <dd> does someone use fuseftp with breezy ?
[04:03] <noctrine> rabbitear, the automatic partitioning thing doesn't come up, when I see the options screen the only thing avalible is manual
[04:03] <_nathan> nix4me: What is the recomended driver?
[04:03] <rabbitear> luke, I got it done.... but seemed like a chore
[04:03] <dane> i can't get my Hp printer to find linux
[04:03] <sethk> nix4me, I would sniff the packets, see whether the print request gets to the linux box.  then you'll know which side to troubleshoot.
[04:03] <nix4me> hplib
[04:04] <sethk> nix4me, sounds like a samba issue, off hand
[04:04] <Rudemeister> cool
[04:04] <dd> i'd like to mount an ftp session but i can't install libfuse-dev
[04:04] <dli> nix4me, could be hpoj
[04:04] <nix4me> yeah, i agree its a samba iussue
[04:04] <_nathan> and do youhave it downloded?
[04:04] <dd>  libfuse-dev: Depends: libfuse2 (= 2.3.0-1ubuntu1.1) but 2.4.2-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[04:04] <rabbitear> no then its hidden noctrine
[04:04] <nix4me> been reading for 16 hours
[04:04] <dd> any idea to solve this problem ?
[04:04] <sethk> nix4me, well, if you read for 1 hour, and you don't find it, the other 15 hours are wasted
[04:04] <rabbitear> there is an automatic, atleast I beleive since ... Breezy ..
[04:05] <Zarephath> nix4me: then it is simple..open up the cups web interface...creat a class(whatever you want to call it) then in windows make sure you have the driver installed for your printer...then add a printer using IPP in the format of http://hostname/classname/printername and you will be good to go..
[04:05] <nix4me> there are hours and hours of samba/cups reports on google
[04:05] <rabbitear> first verstions of Breezy noctrine
[04:05] <sethk> nix4me, capture the packets when you try to print.  then you'll have some data to work with.  when you have a problem and you don't know what to do about it, collect more data.
[04:05] <nix4me> allot of problems out there
[04:05] <_nathan> Man I set up my printer/scanner/coppier in about two minuits!
[04:05] <nix4me> i will try all of your suggestions
[04:06] <_nathan> Anyone want to try a crack at my problem?
[04:06] <Zarephath> nix4me: I assumed you are trying to print to a printer connected to Ubuntu?
[04:06] <rabbitear> noctrine, it is actually better to write down exactly what the partitions are, but took me a long time to figure that out..
[04:06] <nix4me> yes
[04:06] <nix4me> i have printer hooked to ubuntu
[04:06] <nix4me> i can print from my debian machine
[04:06] <Zarephath> nix4me: Ok then what I stated should work good for you...
[04:06] <nix4me> but i cant print from my 2 windows machines
[04:07] <sethk> _nathan, what is your problem?
[04:07] <rabbitear> ..
[04:07] <noctrine> I have the Breezy discs, write out the partitions?, I am kinda new to this whole thing
[04:07] <_nathan> I can't find programs (like dillo) after I install using package manager, Using dapper
[04:07] <Zarephath> You can google for ipp printing from windows..should pick up a howto..I found one for debian that worked ;-)..just a sec and I'll see if I can find the bookmark
[04:07] <nickrud> _nathan, ask about dapper on #ubuntu+1
[04:08] <sethk> _nathan, can't help you with dapper.  My rule is, don't run pre-release software if you don't want pre-release behavior
[04:08] <Zarephath> nix4me: Hang on...
[04:08] <rabbitear> noctrine, you need to have a root partition no matter what ........ you can just make one, even manually .....
[04:08] <_nathan> sethik thanx bye
[04:08] <rabbitear> don't have to have more then one partition...
[04:09] <rabbitear> !install
[04:09] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[04:09] <rabbitear> noctrine, check that one, I think it has pictures/screenshots..
[04:10] <rabbitear> it should if it doesn't!!
[04:10] <noctrine> Thanks
[04:10] <rabbitear> np
[04:10] <qkslvrwolf> anyone handy with sed?
[04:10] <rabbitear> ha ha, I likie da bot
[04:10] <rabbitear> !sed
[04:10] <ubotu> hmm... sed is http://doc.novsu.ac.ru/oreilly/unix/sedawk/index.htm
[04:11] <nickrud> sed, the evil one
[04:11] <bucketfan99> a hoi hoi
[04:11] <rabbitear> man 7 regex
[04:11] <bucketfan99> I just installed ubuntu and it failed to configure my X
[04:11] <rabbitear> man sed
[04:11] <bucketfan99> i am stuck in the dark ages.
[04:11] <noctrine> Alright, I think the problem is
[04:11] <serp> how do I make my sound work?
[04:11] <Zarephath> nix4me: Sorry can't find my bookmark anymore...
[04:11] <bucketfan99> what deb is xf86config in ?
[04:11] <qkslvrwolf> dear god, rabbit, are you from some other OS
[04:11] <keith75> i got a problem
[04:11] <noctrine> I don't get the option to erase and automatically partition a disc
[04:11] <qkslvrwolf> I have never gotten an RTFM in ubuntu
[04:11] <rabbitear> !regex
[04:11] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rabbitear
[04:11] <dli> bucketfan99, xf86 :)
[04:11] <qkslvrwolf> It kind of defeats the point
[04:11] <keith75> i cant see the gui interface to login
[04:11] <bucketfan99> dli  i don't seem to have it
[04:11] <keith75> i got this error
[04:11] <nickrud> qkslvrwolf, rtfm, bash
[04:11] <Zarephath> nix4me: U know how to get to the cups web interface?
[04:11] <dli> bucketfan99, it's xorg now
[04:12] <nickrud> qkslvrwolf, there you go
[04:12] <bucketfan99> ok ok dli whatever.
[04:12] <bucketfan99> i need the config util
[04:12] <qkslvrwolf> nickrud: :-P
[04:12] <bucketfan99> im stuck in the dark!
[04:12] <keith75> error: failed to initialize hal
[04:12] <dli> bucketfan99, no, you don't even need xorgcfg
[04:12] <nickrud> qkslvrwolf, ;)
[04:12] <rabbitear> noctrine, depending on what you wanna do, you can start over... ??
[04:12] <keith75> what duz that mean
[04:12] <dli> bucketfan99, it's ubuntu, you need "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:12] <bucketfan99> ok dli what do i need ?
[04:12] <noctrine> restarting the install thing, tried that no success
[04:12] <nix4me> i am trying to get to the web interface
[04:12] <bucketfan99> ok.
[04:12] <bucketfan99> tring now
[04:12] <bucketfan99> thanks
[04:12] <keith75> who the fuck is hal
[04:12] <nix4me> wont allow me to add a class
[04:12] <nix4me> says forbidden
[04:12] <rabbitear> noctrine, or you can try and hammer out where you at, all you have to if manually is create one partition basicly
[04:12] <nix4me> http:localhost:631
[04:12] <keith75> i need help
[04:13] <Zarephath> qkslvrwolf: Why you want one?
[04:13] <nix4me> http://localhost:631
[04:13] <Zarephath> Heh
[04:13] <nix4me> i see the cups screen
[04:13] <dli> nix4me, localhost is enabled by default
[04:13] <nix4me> then i click ass class, get a forbidden message
[04:13] <rabbitear> only 1, do you HaveToHave More then that noctrine
[04:13] <Zarephath> nix4me: Just a sec let me get mine open
[04:13] <noctrine> I just need one
[04:13] <noctrine> But it won't let me add one
[04:13] <dli> nix4me, how did you authenticate?
[04:13] <rabbitear> yep!
[04:13] <bucketfan99> fails.
[04:13] <bucketfan99> bah
[04:13] <bucketfan99> fuck
[04:13] <nix4me> im afraid my 16 hours of monkeying with the config has taken its toll, lol
[04:13] <rabbitear> where are you at noctrine ?
[04:13] <bucketfan99> i think its my onboard pci messing with the normal  once
[04:13] <tritium> bucketfan99: language!
[04:13] <bucketfan99> PITA
[04:14] <keith75> fuck me
[04:14] <noctrine> If there is another way to do it I don't know how, and I am locked out of the Windows OS that was on the computer
[04:14] <bucketfan99> sorry.
[04:14] <sethk> nix4me, you have to be root, and you have to run the browser as root
[04:14] <Zarephath> nix4me: Click on the classes at the top
[04:14] <tritium> keith75: that was unwise
[04:14] <bucketfan99> u know it is irc tho
[04:14] <bucketfan99> you sposed to cuss
[04:14] <sethk> nix4me, so do  sudo firefox, then do   http://127.0.0.1:631
[04:14] <noiesmo> bucketfan99, what driver are you sellecting when you reconfigure xorg
[04:14] <rabbitear> noctrine, !!! ahok
[04:14] <sethk> nix4me, or localhost, same thing
[04:14] <bucketfan99> that way mom cant catcha
[04:14] <tritium> no, bucketfan99
[04:14] <noctrine> Everytime I try and install it I can't get any further than the Partition step
[04:14] <bucketfan99> man when i was young.
[04:14] <bucketfan99> IRC was for swearing
[04:14] <nix4me> says no classes
[04:14] <qkslvrwolf> never mind, figured it out
[04:14] <qkslvrwolf> that bot can be really helpful
[04:14] <qkslvrwolf> :-)
[04:14] <sethk> nix4me, it should have built in classes
 says no classes
[04:15] <noctrine> The only option that comes up is the Manual Edit, and there aren't any options about erasing and automatically doing it
[04:15] <dli> sethk, aha, there's no root in ubuntu
[04:15] <rabbitear> everytime? so the machine boots onto any kinda of screen thats not .. BIOS?
[04:15] <Zarephath> nix4me: Yeah I know you need to add one
[04:15] <sethk> dli, that must be it.
[04:15] <chinoke> Does anyone something about parsers generator ??
[04:15] <Zarephath> nix4me: I assume you can already print from ubuntu to the printer?
[04:15] <sethk> I've never had to add a printer class.  I have 11 machines talking to printers here
[04:15] <nix4me> yep
[04:15] <chinoke> Does anyone know something about parsers generator ??
[04:15] <dli> sethk, hope there's no bad op around
[04:15] <nix4me> and from my debian machine
[04:15] <sethk> chinoke, yes, I do, although this isn't the channel for it
[04:15] <rabbitear> noctrine, choose manually edit to erase a partition
[04:16] <dli> nix4me, enable root passwd, and authenticate as root, you can add classes
[04:16] <nix4me> i think i got my cupsd.conf file hosed
[04:16] <sethk> chinoke, what do you need to know?
[04:16] <Zarephath> sethk: I am just showing him how to setup ipp printing for windows boxes..that doesn't mean there aren't 20 other ways to do it..:-)
[04:16] <sethk> nix4me, quite possible.  get hold of the intall one.
[04:16] <rabbitear> noctrine, but you will probably wanna read dual boot if you want to Keep your Windows part..
[04:16] <sethk> Zarephath, no, I didn't mean that is wrong, I meant something is borked in his installation
[04:16] <noctrine> I don't want the windows part
[04:17] <Zarephath> sethk: Yes indeed...
[04:17] <noctrine> and there was no erase option in manual edit
[04:17] <harisund> Could someone explain the difference to me between the .gnome2 and the .gconf directory? I want to backup my settings, and was wondering which one I should copy and what it contained?
[04:17] <sethk> noctrine, there is, but it is a bit hidden
[04:17] <rabbitear> Manual Edit -- > erase the part ... ( I think its select it, then choose some delete/remove options )
[04:17] <rabbitear> noctrine..
[04:17] <nix4me> can someone send me their cupsd.conf file that has this working?
[04:17] <sethk> noctrine, when you select the partition, the second dialog will let you delete it
[04:17] <noctrine> It doesn't let me select partitions ><
[04:17] <DewDude> i'm having an issue with Ubuntu Breezy on my iMac....yesterday it just, turned itself off sometime during the day...today it randomly rebooted and earlier it just powered itself down again. any log i can look through and find the issue?
[04:17] <dli> noctrine, you can delete windows and use the whole disk for ubuntu
[04:17] <sethk> noctrine, yes, it does, although you don't realize it.
[04:18] <noctrine> Don't know how to delete windows
[04:18] <rabbitear> noctrine, I don't relize it, I haven't done that in awhile..
[04:18] <rabbitear> you have to hilight the partition somehow...
[04:18] <rabbitear> arrow keys..
[04:18] <nix4me> ok well, im off to monkey with cups some more
[04:18] <rabbitear> I can't recall exactlly how..
[04:18] <rabbitear> in that install
[04:18] <noctrine> Where would the partition show up
[04:19] <Zarephath> nix4me: I suggest dropping back to basics...uninstall and re-install CUPS...then make sure you can print to the printer...then all you need to do is add a class select the printer that is attached to ubuntu...go to windows machine..use the add printer ..but select the option for networking printing...there should be an option for ipp printing...then just http://<ip or hostname/classes/classname you added
[04:19] <sethk> noctrine, hit enter when a partition is highlighted, then you get the next dialog which lets you do things, including delete
[04:19] <zqy> how can i use bt?????
[04:19] <zqy> help help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:19] <sethk> noctrine, in the place you are in where you say it won't let you delete
[04:19] <zqy> how can use bt...
[04:19] <nix4me> ok, thanks
[04:19] <nix4me> i will try it
[04:19] <noctrine> When I get to that, it makes mention of a partition table, but I don't see any of those
[04:19] <Zarephath> nix4me: np..good luck
[04:19] <noctrine> Just an option for RAID and some other stuff
[04:20] <rabbitear> ......
[04:20] <bucketfan99> bah
[04:20] <bucketfan99> i wonder why mubutuf ailed to configure my ati card
[04:20] <rabbitear> I don't recall the screen...
[04:20] <bucketfan99> it managed to do a wacky dell laptop card for me
[04:20] <bucketfan99> but NOT THE ATI!@*()
[04:20] <Zarephath> sethk: Any ideas on how to test my port forwarding is working for my email? I guess I could portscan my outside ip...what would I use program wise?
[04:20] <qkslvrwolf> Quick regex question:  if I want to match "../../.." is there any way I can do it without going \.\.\/ etc?
[04:20] <dli> noctrine, hardware raid?
[04:21] <rabbitear> I dunno.. its obviously not RAID .. to select a partition
[04:21] <sethk> Zarephath, you can use the telnet trick, where you do  telnet hostname 25   (I think smtp is 25; check the number in /etc/services)
[04:21] <Zarephath> sethk: Ok thanks
[04:22] <rabbitear> qkslvrwolf, .*\number ? lol forgot
[04:22] <rabbitear> man 7 regex
[04:22] <fiveiron> hmmm
[04:22] <sethk> qkslvrwolf, in a substitute you can change the search character, but in a straight search, no, at least not in most cases
[04:22] <noctrine> Alright I found a screenshot, one second.. lemme do some editing
[04:23] <qkslvrwolf> rabbitear: I know that I can spend 30 minutes reading a man file and trying things out.  Or, I can ask what is usually a nice group of people to help me out. I generally prefer the latter.
[04:23] <qkslvrwolf> sethk: I'm doing a subsitution with sed
[04:24] <sethk> qkslvrwolf, you can turn magic off, although of course that may not be what you want
[04:24] <sethk> qkslvrwolf, with no magic, all letters revert to their literal meanings
[04:24] <qkslvrwolf> sethk: can I do that for just one of a set of commands, or do I have to do it for the entire sed instance?
[04:24] <rabbitear> \([bc] \)\1 matches bb or cc but not bc.
[04:24] <sethk> qkslvrwolf, I'm not sure
[04:25] <rabbitear> a\(\(b\)*\2\)*d match abbbd?).
[04:25] <qkslvrwolf> sethk: i.e., <command>; <no magic command>; <command>
[04:25] <harisund> Could someone explain the difference to me between the .gnome2 and the .gconf directory? I want to backup my settings, and was wondering which one I should copy and what it contained?
[04:25] <rabbitear> I think its \number .. but I might be wrong
[04:25] <noctrine> http://nuluna.swifthost.net/9.gif <-- thats what its like
[04:25] <rabbitear> b*\25   25 b's?
[04:25] <rabbitear> or just bs
[04:26] <tritium> noctrine: that's clever.  Good way to convey your situation :)
[04:26] <rabbitear> noctrine, I'd start the install over..
[04:27] <noctrine> Everytime I do it, I get the same issue
[04:27] <dli> noctrine, how did you make a screenshot in console?
[04:27] <rabbitear> he means he found an example
[04:27] <noctrine> I didn't found a site with a group of them
[04:27] <high-freq> can anyone help me figure this network issue out... i can ping ip numbers but i can't ping names...i guess its gotta do somethin with name resolution or somethin....i dunno
[04:27] <noctrine> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=1 <-- here
[04:27] <biovore> dli: probably in VMware
[04:27] <rabbitear> dli, cam..
[04:27] <sethk> high-freq, correct, DNS is not working
[04:28] <dli> biovore, I see
[04:28] <high-freq> sethk: i get dhcp from router...and this puter is on router...so somethin is up in ubuntu
[04:28] <sethk> high-freq, do   cat /etc/resolv.conf     see if you have name servers
[04:28] <DanglyBits> how do i go about setting up a wireless network card on a laptop running ubuntu?
[04:29] <sethk> high-freq, with dhcp, you can tell the machine to get DNS from the router, or not
[04:29] <high-freq> sethk: nameserver 192.168.10.1
[04:29] <dli> DanglyBits, what wifi card?
[04:29] <tritium> !wireless
[04:29] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[04:29] <sethk> high-freq, try to ping that ip
[04:29] <high-freq> i did...and works
[04:29] <atrius> connect #kubuntu
[04:29] <FatalFury> does anyone here have vlc media player installed?
[04:29] <sethk> high-freq, ok, try to resolve a name using the host command
[04:30] <navyn> anybody here using dapper?
[04:30] <rabbitear> FatalFury, vlc for me only plays sound..
[04:30] <tritium> navyn: #ubuntu+1 please
[04:30] <rabbitear> mplayer..
[04:30] <fiveiron> hrmr... where is the repository that holds the mplayer firefox plugin?
[04:30] <nix4me> when i try to enter a class in cups webpage, it asks me for username and pass for CUPS
[04:30] <nix4me> what the hell?
[04:30] <atrius> how do i change root password in fresh install so i can install new apps?
[04:30] <rabbitear> !mplayer-plugin
[04:30] <ubotu> rabbitear: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:31] <high-freq> sethk: like google.com or somethin
[04:31] <rabbitear> !mplayerplun-in
[04:31] <ubotu> rabbitear: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:31] <rabbitear> !universe
[04:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:31] <sethk> high-freq, right, any name that should resolve
[04:31] <atrius> thanks forthe links
[04:31] <noctrine> hrm, maybe its just the disc I was using
[04:31] <rabbitear> !mplayer
[04:31] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[04:31] <high-freq> sethk: ok its Trying "google.com"   but server timed out; no servers could be reached
[04:32] <high-freq> but if i use the actual ip then it pings
[04:32] <sethk> high-freq, try adding the ip explicitly.   host google.com  192.168.
[04:32] <sethk> high-freq, I forgot the address, but the nameserver address
[04:32] <noctrine> is there anyway to wipe a computer without an OS
[04:32] <sethk> high-freq, that tells host to ask that IP for the name resolution
[04:32] <sethk> noctrine, boot a cd or floppy
[04:33] <rabbitear> fdisk
[04:33] <sethk> noctrine, or use a blow torch
[04:33] <noctrine> I am tempted to do that last one
[04:33] <sethk> rabbitear, fdisk doesn't really erase anything
[04:33] <rabbitear> windex
[04:33] <dli> how do I test the speed of my usb stick?
[04:33] <rabbitear> it'll for not seeing any partitons on the drive..
[04:33] <rabbitear> magnet?
[04:34] <high-freq> sethk: nope...still hangs while "trying google.com"
[04:34] <rabbitear> thats dirty..
[04:34] <atrius>  how do i change root password in fresh install so i can install new apps? when using the package manager it esclates it root when wrighting to the /. can you help?
[04:34] <biovore> dli: use dd to write a file of 1 on your usb stick
[04:34] <rabbitear> bb.
[04:34] <sethk> high-freq, ok, then the problem is in the name server
[04:34] <dli> biovore, :(
[04:34] <sethk> high-freq, or the router is supplying the wrong ip for nameserver
[04:34] <biovore> dli: resulting number you get will not be real value because of diskcaching
[04:34] <high-freq> weird...cuz this puter is on network and works fine
[04:35] <sethk> high-freq, go to another computer on the network.  likely you'll find a different name server, or additional name server(s)
[04:35] <sethk> high-freq, or the name server is selective and isn't responding to your IP
[04:35] <atrius>  how do i change root password in fresh install so i can install new apps? when using the package manager it esclates it root when wrighting to the /. can you help?
[04:35] <harisund> Could someone explain the difference to me between the .gnome2 and the .gconf directory? I want to backup my settings, and was wondering which one I should copy and what it contained?
[04:35] <DanglyBits> dli:linksys wireless-g notebook adapter
[04:36] <high-freq> only have this one..and the laptop which i've been tryin to get wireless to work...but now the regular NIC doesn't seem to want to resolve names
[04:36] <sethk> harisund, .gconf is system wide, .gconf2 exists one for each user
[04:36] <DanglyBits> dli:model wpc54g
[04:36] <fiveiron> !mplayerplugin
[04:36] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiveiron
[04:36] <sethk> high-freq, so then you don't know that the network works
[04:36] <noctrine> anyone have a link where I can get more info on completly wiping my computer
[04:36] <FatalFury> what program do u guys use for playing mp3s?
[04:36] <high-freq> sethk: it has worked before...
[04:36] <harisund> Oh. You mean another user wouldn't have a .gconf folder? How does it work?
[04:36] <fiveiron> FatalFury: amarok
[04:37] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering what a good ssh client for ubuntu is
[04:37] <dli> DanglyBits, no supported:)
[04:37] <harisund> jadaz87, there is the default openSSH client installed.
[04:37] <rabbitear> stillusesxmms
[04:37] <atrius>  how do i change root password in fresh install so i can install new apps? when using the package manager it esclates it root when wrighting to the /. can you help?
[04:37] <atrius> please
[04:37] <harisund> jadaz87: I don't even know if other ssh clients exist.
[04:37] <rabbitear> :P
[04:37] <harisund> ubotu tell atrius about sudo
[04:38] <jadaz87> hairsund do i have to install it? or is it installed on default
[04:38] <harisund> It is installed by default.
[04:38] <sethk> harisund, no, sorry, I'm wrong about .gconf
[04:38] <harisund> jadaz87: The client is installed by default. You can just execute "ssh name_of_machine" to login to the name_of_machine.
[04:38] <high-freq> sethk: i'll just reboot the lappy..maybe i missed some configurration or soemthin...but it says dhcp in settings
[04:38] <Hi^gh^Life> Anyone have the dwl-g122 rev.B1 working in Dapper?
[04:39] <jadaz87> harisund oh ok thank you i did not know how that worked
[04:39] <dli> Hi^gh^Life, I think dwl cards are supported
[04:39] <sethk> high-freq, as I told you, dhcp can mean get just the ip from the router, or it can mean get both the ip and nameserver from the router
[04:39] <FatalFury> does anyone know if I have a windows partition mounted if it will be there when I reboot?'
[04:39] <Hi^gh^Life> yes they are
[04:39] <sethk> high-freq, you have to look at the details, not just whether it is dhcp
[04:39] <Hi^gh^Life> but
[04:39] <harisund> jadaz87: lol..
[04:39] <noctrine> What does run_qtparted do?
[04:39] <dli> Hi^gh^Life, http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html
[04:39] <harisund> sethk: Did you mean the .gconf folder is for systemwide applications?
[04:39] <Hi^gh^Life> my card cant seem to get an IP from my router
[04:39] <phpsmallbiz> FatalFury, if it is in /etc/fstab it will
[04:39] <sethk> harisund, mistake, sorry, I was thinking of a different folder
[04:39] <high-freq> sethk: in /etc/network/interfaces i have that one line...   iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:39] <harisund> sethk: That's fine.
[04:39] <high-freq> somethin like that
[04:40] <Hi^gh^Life> but it gets the MAC and everything
[04:40] <dli> Hi^gh^Life, try "sudo dhclient ra0", if it's ra0
[04:40] <Hi^gh^Life> already did
[04:40] <high-freq> also in the Networking gui...it says DHCP...i've never had a problem with DHCP pulling all info from router from gateway,dns,ip,
[04:40] <sethk> high-freq, the question is what the laptop has, assuming that the laptop really works
[04:40] <dli> Hi^gh^Life, check "iwconfig"
[04:40] <FatalFury> phpsmallbiz, so I would have to mount it in that dir?
[04:40] <jadaz87> harisund how do i change the username?
[04:41] <sethk> high-freq, you have a name server, but the nameserver doesn't respond to this box.
[04:41] <Hi^gh^Life> did
[04:41] <dli> Hi^gh^Life, then, "iwlist ra0 scan"
[04:41] <high-freq> ya
[04:41] <harisund> jadaz87: I will give you a better idea.
[04:41] <jadaz87> harisund it is using my default ubuntu account name
[04:41] <sethk> high-freq, so you have to figure out why.  either the name server is borked, or that's the wrong ip for a name server.
[04:41] <phpsmallbiz> FatalFury, /etc/fstab is a config file and everything in that file gets auto mounted at boot
[04:41] <harisund> jadaz87: First create a directory in your home folder called .ssh (dot ssh)
[04:41] <rabbitear> <--abby
[04:41] <FatalFury> kk
[04:41] <rabbitear> lol
[04:41] <Hi^gh^Life> well ill try i have to boot in and out of windows
[04:41] <jazzanova> hi
[04:42] <harisund> jadaz87: Then inside that .ssh folder, create a file. Do something like this: gedit ~/.ssh/config
[04:42] <high-freq> sethk: that ip is for the gateway which on the gatway (router) it has the dns's...and also this puter is on the router and doin everything fine...
[04:42] <jazzanova> i have loaded snd_seq_dev module, but there is no device /dev/snd/seq
[04:42] <harisund> jadaz87: are you still with me?
[04:42] <jadaz87> harisund yes
[04:42] <jazzanova> is this a udev problem ?
[04:42] <sethk> high-freq, ok and what nameserver is being used by the machine that is working?
[04:43] <high-freq> ya i was just thinkin that..i'm gonna use this resolv.conf for the laptop
[04:43] <harisund> jadaz87: Now that file (~/.ssh/config) is the file that ssh uses for information (if it exists). Go ahead and type the following lines:
[04:43] <rabbitear> Stop getting drunk on irc!
[04:43] <atrius> exit
[04:43] <harisund> jadaz87: First line is Host NameThatYouWant
[04:44] <Cattack> How do I install GRUB onto the second partiton on my first sata drive?
[04:44] <harisund> jadaz87: Second line is "HostName NameOfTheMachine". Third line "User UserNameOnRemoteMachine". Fourth line "Port PortNumber" These 4 lines make your life convenient if you use SSH regularly.
[04:44] <jadaz87> harisund ok
[04:45] <Cattack> or is there a shortcut that will let me say install it to the / mount point
[04:45] <high-freq> sethk: weird...but now it works...but shouldn't dhcp be pullin those dns's as well?
[04:45] <jadaz87> harisund what is the difference between the first line and the second?
[04:45] <dli> Cattack, in grub command line
[04:45] <sethk> high-freq, yes, it should.  so you have to look into why it isn't
[04:45] <Cattack> dli, I am in the install part of the Ubuntu disk
[04:45] <harisund> jadaz87: The first line has "host" and this is a name you give to the connection. The seocnd line starts with "hostname" and is the actual name or the ip address of the remote machine.
[04:45] <FatalFury> phpsmallbiz, how do i edit that file?
[04:46] <dli> Cattack, no idea then
[04:46] <noctrine> Welp, I am gonna try some random stuff, will probably (almost no doubt) be back tomorrow
[04:46] <jazzanova> how do I request udev to create some device ?
[04:46] <high-freq> sethk: well i did just update to dapper beta....so it might have erased the older resolv.conf
[04:46] <harisund> jadaz87: Let's say you have "host connection" and "hostname cs.lsu.edu" and "user jada" and port "84" . Now all you need to do is "ssh connection" and it will automatically connect to cs.lsu.edu with user jada on port 84.
[04:46] <jadaz87> oh ok harisund nice
[04:46] <Cattack> I need to know the /mnt/(drive) info.
[04:46] <harisund> Basically what comes after "host" is a name you give for convenience and what comes after "hostname" is the machine name itself.
[04:47] <harisund> If you do a lot of scp copying/ ssh into a machine with a different user name and different port you will need multiple switches. But with this configuration file, you can simply say "ssh connection" or "scp connection:name_of_remote_file ."
[04:47] <Cattack> isnt sda the first sata drive?
[04:48] <harisund> jadaz87: SSH is an awesome tool really. :)
[04:48] <sethk> Cattack, usually, yes, but sometimes another device becomes sda
[04:48] <sethk> Cattack, I have a machine where the memory on one of my mobo devices is sda
[04:48] <FatalFury> does anyone know of a way to play aac in breezy badger?
[04:48] <sethk> Cattack, on that box, my sata driver is sdb
[04:49] <Cattack> is there a way in the installer to find out what the drive's designation it?
[04:49] <eggzeck> FatalFury, 'apt-cache search aac'
[04:49] <biovore> Cattack: you mean its mount point?
[04:49] <Cattack> right
[04:49] <Cattack> no biovore
[04:49] <jadaz87> harisund yes it is i have one more question of you
[04:50] <harisund> jadaz87: Which is?
[04:50] <eggzeck> FatalFury, if you have the right repositories you should see 'realplay' which plays aac
[04:50] <jadaz87> harisund how do i switch between screens on irssi?
[04:50] <wizzlefish> I tried setting the permissions to my mounted Windows partition with "sudo chmod 777 /mnt/windows"
[04:50] <Cattack> I need its mount point as GRUB is concerned biovore
[04:50] <wizzlefish> but it still won't let me in
[04:50] <wizzlefish> is there something I'm doing wrong?
[04:50] <biovore> Cattack: oh..  well grub-install tells you that info
[04:50] <harisund> jadaz87: Ok, first, let's define the control key as "^" so when I mentioned "^A" it means Ctrl A.. ok ?
[04:50] <Cattack> I am in the GUI install from CD biovore
[04:50] <noiesmo> wizzlefish, is it ntfs
[04:50] <jadaz87> harisund ok
[04:50] <biovore> Cattack: the installer runs it, but I don't know if it spits the info to the screen.. check f4 console when it installs grub..
[04:51] <wizzlefish> noiesmo: yes
[04:51] <sethk> Cattack, grub uses a file to determine the correspondance of it's numbers (hd0), etc.  to devices
[04:51] <noiesmo> ubotu, tell wizzlefish about ntfs
[04:51] <sethk> Cattack, if that file is wrong, things will not work for you.
[04:51] <tjb891_> if i install ubuntu, can i reload the windows mbr if i get rid of it
[04:51] <sethk> Cattack, look at /boot/grub/device.map, if you have a grub directory at this point
[04:51] <biovore> Cattack: it ussualy hd0 for /dev/hda (or /dev/sda for sata systems)
[04:52] <harisund> jadaz87: Here's what you primarily need to know: "^a c" create new window. "^a w" show a list of windows. "^a " " show an interactive list of open windows. "^a A" name the screen as something "^a n" go to next window (cycle) "^a p" previous
[04:52] <Cattack> sethk...I am not loaded into ubuntu yet....I am at the point in the installer where it installed the boot manager.
[04:52] <harisund> "^a a" alternate between current window and the last used window
[04:52] <jadaz87> harisund oh ok thanks :-)
[04:53] <sethk> Cattack, if you have a command line and /sys is mounted, you can find out what sda is pointing to, or conversely what sd your sata drive looks like
[04:53] <harisund> Trust me, SSH and screen make a deadly combo. On the command line outside of screen, "screen -r" reattaches a screen. If you were connected, and somehow got disconnected without really reattaching the screen, "screen -r" would say the screen is already attached. Then you would need to do "screen -d -r" which means detach it and then reattach it.
[04:53] <harisund> jada87: ^^
[04:53] <jadaz87> harisund those commands are not working the ^a n
[04:54] <harisund> Ctrl a and n: You are sure you have multiple windows, right jadaz87?
[04:54] <tjb891_> is it possible to restore the windows mbr after having loaded on grub?
[04:54] <harisund> jadaz87: Otherwise you would get a message "No other window"
[04:55] <jadaz87> harisund you are right thanks once again :-D
[04:56] <harisund> jadaz87: I got addicted to SSH and screen after Ubuntu was giving me problems while installing on my laptop. I had to SSH back to my other machine and so I ended up doing a lot of reading on SSH, Screen and IRSSI :)
[04:56] <Cattack> sethk...I can get the console that is built into the installer and it has sys
[04:56] <Cattack> How do I get the info I need from it?
[04:56] <jadaz87> harisund :-D SSH shells are fun :-D
[04:56] <jadaz87> harisund i hope they have w3c installed on here :-D
[04:57] <harisund> jadaz87: Nope, neither of w3m, linxs, lynxs or anything is installed.
[04:57] <NetworkJester> how to switch to a new workspace..............
[04:57] <harisund> jadaz87: But don;t you think asking for that is a bit of an overkill ? :)
[04:57] <jadaz87> harisund i do not know lol
[04:57] <Cattack> sethk, I am fairly new to linux so I am not familure with the /sys folder
[04:58] <NetworkJester> im so new i can hardly believe i can spel linucks
[04:58] <sethk> Cattack, start by doing   ls /sys/block     that will show you block devices
[04:59] <akruup> hi all
[04:59] <jadaz87> harisund so what can i do with my shell account?
[04:59] <ReWT_AxS> whats the key sequence to update distro?
[05:00] <Cattack> sethk, sda is listed
[05:00] <harisund> Let's see, I mostly spend time on irssi (this channel of course)... then I do some man page readings .. some compilations from source code.. let me think .. what else do I do?
[05:00] <ReWT_AxS> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:00] <sethk> Cattack, any other sd's?
[05:00] <jas_> ReWT_AxS: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:00] <Plecebo> is /etc/resolve.conf the proper place to put static dns info in ubuntu?
[05:00] <Cattack> there are none
[05:00] <ReWT_AxS> nothing happens
[05:00] <ReWT_AxS> jas_
[05:00] <whiter> anyone know what program nautilus uses (on the desktop) when you click "Create Launcher..." i specifically need the name of the executable it launches when you do that
[05:00] <juan_> se cerro
[05:00] <Cattack> so that means I want /mnt/sda1?
[05:00] <spikeb> hrm
[05:00] <Cattack> if my ubuntu root is on the 2nd partition?
[05:00] <ReWT_AxS> 0 ugraded 0 installed
[05:01] <ReWT_AxS> !daper
[05:01] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ReWT_AxS
[05:01] <ReWT_AxS> !dapper
[05:01] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[05:01] <akruup> im having trouble installing ubuntu, could anyone please help me?
[05:02] <whiter> yes
[05:02] <biovore> ReWT_AxS: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:02] <Cattack> sethk, so that must be it.   and the partitions are numbered starting form 0 with the first one as 0?
[05:02] <akruup> i have installed it on my desktop, but when starts up my monitor goes blank
[05:03] <harisund> ok jadaz87: Catch up with ya later !
[05:03] <biovore> ReWT_AxS: butt first update your /etc/apt/source.list to dapper
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> akruup,  lcd or crt monitor?
[05:03] <jadaz87> harisund alright see you later :-D
[05:03] <sethk> Cattack, numbered from 1, in sda1, sda2, etc.
[05:03] <sethk> Cattack, numbered from 0 in grub
[05:03] <harisund> sorry I really can't think of anything else to do with the shell.. maybe some command line games might help.. I used to play a typing tutor game, jadaz87
[05:03] <akruup> how do i msg u bak?
[05:03] <harisund> Better still code one yourself :)
[05:04] <jadaz87> harisund :-)
[05:04] <biovore> cli gives you the power of stream redirection and piping :-P
[05:04] <Cattack> sethk, so 1 is 1 in /dev/sda type of entry into grub?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> just say.. "its a  crt/lcd" :P i dident message you at all.
[05:04] <Cattack> *I meant literally the first partition as 1
[05:05] <akruup> i use a monitor
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> akruup,  and is this monitor using lcd for its display? or a big honking Glass tube also known as a "CRT"?
[05:06] <ubuntuneil> !dapper
[05:06] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[05:06] <akruup> msg Dr_Willis CRT massive box
[05:07] <NoobSauce> does anyone know how to reset gnome to its defaults? I think I accidentally installed a theme that was not in the proper category (as in I installed an icon theme or something in the window decorations). Anyways, now gnome won't start, not even failsafe gnome....
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> akruup.  Its higlly possible you just need to boot to the console and reconfigure your X server and set up some lower resolution.
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[05:07] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> that url has details.
[05:07] <Cattack> Thats interesting....told it to boot my FC distro
[05:07] <Cattack> booted my ubuntu
[05:08] <vincenz> how do I reinstall my eth1 interface
[05:08] <vincenz> it doesn't know it anymore
[05:09] <wizzlefish> I've mounted "sda2," but is there any way to rename it to something more recognizable?
[05:09] <NoobSauce> what is the actual command to launch the gnome theme manager? can someone with gnome check what command the taskbar icon launches?
[05:09] <amicrawler> where do i get nvidia drivers at?
[05:09] <nomasteryoda|w> !ubotu tell amicrawler about nvidia
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> wizzlefish,  you can make the name of the mount point about anything..
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> wizzlefish,  i seem to recall some how setting the 'label' on the hard drives and they got mounted with that lable name some how. :P
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> I just cant recall how i did it
[05:11] <DrBanzai> Dr_Willis, Can you still use Ctrl-Alt-+ or Ctrl-Alt- - to change resolutions in X?  Or does that not work until you get to the desktop?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> DrBanzai,  thats the old-skool way. and it may be disabled by default.
[05:12] <DrBanzai> Dr_Willis, Ok
[05:12] <wizzlefish> Dr_Willis: well, I used the automatic partition mounting script
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> its alt-ctrl-NUMPAD + and - also. :P
[05:12] <wizzlefish> so it named it /media/sda2 by default
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> edit your fstab and have a blast. :P
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> the ins and outs of how linux mounts drives.. is a good thing to learn about.
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> is this a NTFS drive?
[05:15] <NoobSauce> can someone go to computer->desktop preferences->theme manager and tell me what command that executes in gnome?
[05:15] <callum_> hi everyone! I have a question.. I installed Ubuntu Breezy.. (awesome).. everything is working... I was browsing ok.. but noticed that I was using version 1.0.6... so I downloaded 1.5 and tried extracting the tar.gz file to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> !ff1.5
[05:15] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:15] <callum_> I can no longer browse
[05:15] <callum_> :(
[05:16] <callum_> process "firefox" permission denied
[05:16] <NoobSauce> browse with konqueror temporarily
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install dillo :P or some other browser.. actually gnome has one.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> dont it.
[05:16] <callum_> (I have tried chmod...
[05:16] <callum_> but I am not sure thats the prob..
[05:16] <Madpilot> callum_, the easiest way to get FF1.5 is to wait three weeks until the next version of Ubuntu comes out w/ 1.5.x
[05:16] <ReWT_AxS> how do i get my usplash to display ubuntu instead of kubuntu....some reason it started doing kubuntu after an upgrade
[05:16] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell callum_ about ff1.5
[05:16] <callum_> thanks Madpilot
[05:17] <callum_> but it doesn't help me now... can I undo in linux? (I am TOTALLY new to this)
[05:18] <Madpilot> callum_, open Synaptic, uninstall & reinstall FF from repos (1.0.7)- that might work
[05:18] <callum_> ok
[05:18] <callum_> thanks
[05:18] <callum_> will try
[05:18] <NoobSauce> callum_ go to terminal and type apt-get remove firefox, then apt-get install firefox, that might solve your problem
[05:19] <arrick1> What is the name of the network control package that is installed with the default ubuntu-desktop package?
[05:19] <akruup> will the pre-configured systems recognise a Geforce4200 ti?
[05:20] <callum_> yay... thanks guys.. its working (I used synaptic)
[05:20] <NoobSauce> guys, can someone go to computer->desktop preferences->theme manager and tell me what command that executes in gnome? sorry to spam, but this is really important to me and anyone here could tell me the answer....
[05:20] <ITSa341> what is the command line option to start thunderbird in safe mode ( no extensions ) in ubuntu?
[05:20] <jadaz87> does anyone know where they put resource manager in dapper?
[05:20] <amicrawler> my mp3 player does not work how to ?
[05:21] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell amicrawler about mp3
[05:22] <ReWT_AxS> where are usplash images stored?
[05:22] <jadaz87> !usplash
[05:22] <ubotu> usplash is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[05:22] <arrick1> anyone, What is the name of the network control package that is installed with the default ubuntu-desktop package?
[05:23] <jadaz87> does anyone know where they put resource manager in dapper?
[05:23] <NoobSauce> guys, can someone go to computer->desktop preferences->theme manager and tell me what command that executes in gnome?
[05:24] <arrick1> ask dapper questions in Ubuntu+1 please
[05:24] <Madpilot> NoobSauce, gnome-theme-manager, I think
[05:24] <Madpilot> NoobSauce, yes, that's it
[05:25] <arrick1> anyone, What is the name of the network control package that is installed with the default ubuntu-desktop package?
[05:25] <jadaz87> Madpilot do you know?
[05:25] <arrick1> the gui network control package?
[05:25] <Madpilot> jadaz87, do I know what?
[05:25] <jadaz87> Madpilot where they put resource manager in dapper?
[05:25] <NoobSauce> Madpilot thanks... you'd think with 700 people in chat, I could get a quicker answer... :P
[05:26] <Madpilot> jadaz87, no idea - try in #ubuntu+1 for Dapper, though
[05:26] <wowoku> ?
[05:26] <wowoku> andy here
[05:26] <jadaz87> Madpilot channel is dead
[05:27] <wowoku> 
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> m00
[05:27] <nickrud> jadaz87, no, the channel isn't dead, just no answer :)
[05:27] <wowoku> nickrud
[05:27] <dli> wowoku, this is an english only channel, for chinese, /join #ubuntu-zh
[05:27] <arrick1> nickrud, evening
[05:27] <nickrud> arrick1, likewise
[05:28] <arrick1>  nickrud you know the answer to my question?
[05:28] <wowoku> where are you
[05:28] <nickrud> arrick == arrick1?
[05:28] <arrick1> nickrud, What is the name of the network control package that is installed with the default ubuntu-desktop package?
[05:28] <arrick1> I have more ram now, so I went to gui
[05:28] <nickrud> wowoku, houston texas at the moment
[05:28] <nickrud> arrick1, which ubuntu?
[05:29] <dli> arrick1, how much do you get? just being curious
[05:29] <arrick1> dli, I upgraded to a gig now
[05:29] <arrick1> dli, how much do I get for what?
[05:30] <akruup> how can i boot into a terminal??
[05:30] <dli> arrick1, is himem 4gb enabled in ubuntu by default?
[05:30] <arrick1> I dont know
[05:30] <arrick1> nickrud, breezy sorry
[05:30] <wowoku> heihei
[05:30] <dli> arrick1, "free -m"
[05:30] <wowoku> help
[05:31] <arrick1> huh?
[05:31] <dli> wowoku, just ask
[05:31] <wowoku> i am a newer
[05:31] <arrick1> dli, I am currently using 261mb
[05:31] <nickrud> arrick1, now that we know what version you're running, I have to say I don't run anything needing networking, so I've never learned what breezy offers for networking ;P
[05:31] <dli> arrick1, how much is total?
[05:32] <wowoku> the xmms no soud right now
[05:32] <noiesmo> how can I increase the history length for bash commands
[05:32] <arrick1> 1024
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Check the bash man pages. :P
[05:32] <wowoku> arrickl help
[05:33] <dli> arrick1, that means it's enabled :) otherwise, 896MB is the maximum
[05:33] <arrick1> wowoku, dont ask me, I dont know
[05:33] <arrick1> oh ok
[05:33] <wowoku> gold
[05:33] <DrBanzai> Hey, how come when I do a free -m, my total is listed as 1012?
[05:33] <dli> wowoku, do you have sound out of xmms?
[05:33] <wowoku> no
[05:34] <nickrud> noiesmo, you need to set the variable HISTFILESIZE
[05:34] <dli> wowoku, what's your audio card? "sudo lspci|grep -i audio"
[05:34] <wowoku> this my fist time use liunx  so i dont know how to use it ,i hope that someone can help me
[05:34] <gorski> sdfsd
[05:34] <gorski> hello
[05:34] <wowoku> is anyone can speak in chinese
[05:34] <noiesmo> nickrud, so like $HISTFILESIZE 1000 will that do 1000 lines
[05:35] <arrick1> I dont know
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> wowoku,  ya could try some other programs then xmms. theres a great many good media player tools out there.
[05:35] <gorski> i have upraded to dapper and now i cannot connect to internet, anyone help?
[05:35] <arrick1> !dapper
[05:35] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[05:35] <dli> Dr_Willis, I guess it's alsamixer
[05:35] <amicrawler> armokn keeps shutting down when i play a mp3 file why?
[05:36] <dli> wowoku, try the menu, Applications -> Sound & Video -> Volume Control
[05:36] <nickrud> noiesmo, maybe. I don't know a lot about bash's handling of it's history lines, but that what popped out at me from the man page
[05:36] <arrick1> anyone, What is the name of the network control package that is installed with the default ubuntu-desktop package?
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> dli,  or some alsa/other sound server conflict.
[05:36] <noiesmo> nickrud, ok thnks
[05:36] <noiesmo> thanks
[05:36] <amicrawler> armokn keeps shutting down when i play a mp3 file why?
[05:37] <arrick1> anyone, What is the name of the network control package that is installed with the default ubuntu-desktop breezy package?
[05:37] <wowoku> dli no sound also
[05:38] <wowoku> who can speak chinese i am bad in english
[05:38] <nickrud> arrick1, gnome-nettool or gnome-network-preferences?
[05:38] <dli> wowoku, open a terminal, by,  Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal
[05:38] <nickrud> arrick1, it's what gnome-net<tab> gave me
[05:38] <arrick1> nickrud, I want what ever is in the system>admin>network
[05:38] <dli> wowoku, and type the command there, " lspci|grep -i audio"
[05:39] <nickrud> arrick1, select an item from a menu, then add it to a panel. You can examine the properties of the launcher very easily from there
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> nickrud,  good answer! :P
[05:40] <arrick1> nickrud, the reason I am asking is because I dont have it installed
[05:40] <nickrud> arrick1, doh. duh. etc.
[05:40] <wowoku> sorry ,very sorry i do not know what the mean of terminal
[05:40] <dli> wowoku, follow the menu
[05:41] <nickrud> Dr_Willis, it's still a hack
[05:41] <dli> wowoku, if you are using a Chinese desktop :( I have no idea how the menu items are translated
[05:41] <Xenguy> wowoku: it is a command-line/prompt
[05:41] <wowoku> can anyone speak chiese
[05:42] <Xenguy> wowoku: where you type commands
[05:42] <Madpilot> wowoku, #ubuntu-cn
[05:42] <wowoku> yes
[05:42] <dli> Xenguy, I guess he is using a Chinese desktop :(
[05:42] <Madpilot> wowoku, type this: /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:43] <wowoku> thank
[05:43] <wowoku> thank you madpilot
[05:44] <amicrawler> this does not make sence  xmms work but not amarok
[05:44] <amicrawler> it crashes
[05:47] <whiter> !flashg
[05:47] <FatalFury> does anyone know how i can edit this file etc\fsdisk?
[05:47] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, whiter
[05:47] <whiter> !flash
[05:47] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:49] <whiter> d
[05:56] <moses> hello
[05:56] <moses> anybody pls help
[05:56] <jazzanova> trying to play a midi file, any help ?
[05:57] <hegemon> http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/international/2006/05/04/67913.htm
[05:57] <moses> hello help pls
[05:57] <_madcap> yea shoot... tho I'm not a developer... just a user
[05:58] <_madcap> So what kinda help
[05:58] <DrBanzai> What's the easiest way to upgrade my 1.0.8 version of Firefox to the new 1.5 version?
[05:58] <nickrud> !ff1.5
[05:58] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:59] <DrBanzai> Thanks nickrud
[05:59] <Madpilot> DrBanzai, easiest way is to wait about three weeks, and upgrade to the new release of Ubuntu on June 1st
[05:59] <spikeb> heh aye
[06:00] <nickrud> heh. Madpilot
[06:00] <_madcap> hehe... 3 weeks is so far away/// I had it installed in March... I guess it was still Alpha then...
[06:01] <nickrud> Madpilot, can I pm you?
[06:01] <DrBanzai> !ops
[06:01] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[06:01] <Madpilot> nickrud, of course
[06:01] <Hobbsee> DrBanzai: ?
[06:02] <Hobbsee> DrBanzai: what's the problem?
[06:02] <tritium> DrBanzai: ?
[06:02] <DrBanzai> Hobbsee, Oh, sorry, I was just exploring some commands that I'm not used too...
[06:02] <Hobbsee> DrBanzai: please use /msg ubotu ops for that - so it doesnt ping all of the ops...
[06:03] <arrick1> DrBanzai, do not play withthat command, it coudl get you banned quickly
[06:03] <errous> marylene?
[06:03] <marylene> louis?
[06:04] <DrBanzai> Sorry ops!  That won't happen again.
[06:04] <rendo> Has anyone ever had any problems with Azureus, to be precise the DHT being firewalled even though it works on another machine on the LAN, but justseems to hate Ubuntu?
[06:04] <moses> how do i connect to dalnet?
[06:05] <rendo> Type /server irc.dal.net
[06:05] <tritium> You there Whyvas?
[06:05] <Whyvas> yay
[06:06] <Whyvas> no auto unbanning?
[06:06] <Whyvas> your ban list is massive
[06:06] <tritium> Whyvas: not usually.  Thanks for your very courteous query.
[06:07] <moses> rendo it doesn't connect
[06:07] <moses> here's what i saw when on mirc mesra.kl.my.dal.net
[06:07] <tritium> You take care, Whyvas.  I'm off to bed.
[06:07] <Whyvas> same...
[06:07] <Whyvas> later
[06:08] <PrimoTurbo> Is there anyway to make XChat-Gnome to look like the old Xchat where the users are on the right side and there is not channels stuff on the left.
[06:09] <PrimoTurbo> I switched to dapper, xchat looks pretty lame
[06:09] <nickrud> PrimoTurbo, I just install xchat and remove xchat-gnome myself :)
[06:09] <scarn> why not use xchat?
[06:09] <PrimoTurbo> cause I'm stupid and didn't realize it was there
[06:09] <scarn> xchat pwns
[06:10] <nickrud> PrimoTurbo, been there, done that with dapper
[06:10] <Madpilot> PrimoTurbo, XChat has been moved to Universe in Dapper, but it's still around (thankfully)
[06:10] <Whyvas> pwns?
[06:10] <Whyvas> jeeeez
[06:10] <scarn> lol
[06:11] <Voldo> is there anyway to change the brightness of the screen while ubuntu is booted?
[06:11] <PrimoTurbo> k brb need to get xchat back
[06:11] <nickrud> Whyvas, this realy truly is an adult channel.
[06:11] <Whyvas> Voldo, use your monitor controls.....
[06:11] <nickrud> with support for all
[06:12] <BSCH> hello, everyone~~
[06:12] <scarn> even us pwning n00bs 8))
[06:12] <Whyvas> 58008
[06:12] <scarn> uhoh
[06:13] <Whyvas> put that in your calculator and flip it!
[06:13] <Voldo> is there anyway to turn up the brightnesss while linux is booted?
[06:14] <nickrud> Voldo, xgamma
[06:14] <PrimoTurbo> Good it worked, now I got xchat how I want it :D
[06:14] <Voldo> just type that into the terminal?
[06:14] <scarn> gah, guess ill reboot to winblows..i feeel like pwning n00bs in dod:source
[06:14] <Voldo> that doesn't do anything for brightbess nickrud
[06:14] <scarn> welcome back PrimoTurbo!
[06:15] <Voldo> just color of the screen
[06:15] <Whyvas> Voldo, use your monitor controls.....
[06:15] <nickrud> Voldo, xgamma will change a lot: man xgamma will tell you a lot
[06:15] <Whyvas> or is the monitor dying
[06:15] <xerophyte> does anybody here use monit just wondering
[06:15] <PrimoTurbo> Now I'm wondering is there an automated way to get all the plugins/mp3 format/etc to work on Dapper with out having to do it by hand, I don't care if it's buggy this is a testing system
[06:15] <Voldo> its dying
[06:15] <Voldo> its dark and brightness is up all the way
[06:16] <Whyvas> PrimoTurbo, try automatix
[06:16] <brandon_> i'm having trouble starting gnome
[06:16] <tritium> Whyvas: easyubuntu is preferable
[06:16] <arrick1> brandon_, startx
[06:16] <brandon_> i was thinking of maybe nuking all of the config files
[06:16] <PrimoTurbo> Dapper 6.06 has automatix?
[06:16] <_madcap> Automatix is not released for dapper yet, is it?
[06:16] <eggzeck> I sure hope not
[06:16] <Madpilot> !automatix
[06:16] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[06:16] <_madcap> Yea easy ubuntu should work
[06:16] <brandon_> arrick1, we're a little beyond that now
[06:17] <GTroy> HELP, my new box won't post!!
[06:17] <PrimoTurbo> I'm testing I don't care
[06:17] <brandon_> i'm no rookie
[06:17] <arrick1> ok
[06:17] <brandon_> kde works fine
[06:17] <arrick1> brandon_, didnt recognize your name, so I had to start somewhere
[06:17] <GTroy> what do you do when a new box won't post?
[06:17] <Voldo> how do you edit the numbers in xgamma?
[06:17] <GTroy> fans running....
[06:18] <PrimoTurbo> Does anyone know a website with cool wallpapers? But not Gnome Art or Gnome Look.
[06:18] <spikeb> well
[06:18] <brandon_> what happened was that i tried xgl, but it didn't work. now, i thought i had returned gdm to a basic state, but when i try to log in, it gets to the point where i see the desktop, but then it returns to the xdm login screen
[06:18] <spikeb> PrimoTurbo, you can just google what kind of wallpaper you want...like "nature wallpaper" or whatnot
[06:18] <arrick1> GTroy, unplug one thing at a time that is powered by the powersupply and then start it up to see if it boots
[06:18] <nickrud> Voldo, have you experimented with xgamma yet?
[06:18] <spikeb> PrimoTurbo, also, deviantart
[06:19] <Madpilot> PrimoTurbo, http://www.deviantart.com/
[06:19] <PrimoTurbo> devianart takes too much time to find stuff
[06:19] <nickrud> Voldo, missed your last: xgamma -gamma 2.0  <-- try that
[06:19] <PrimoTurbo> google has crappy wallpaper
[06:19] <PrimoTurbo> I need a single good place
[06:19] <PrimoTurbo> Like http://www.caedes.net/
[06:20] <GTroy> arrick1: one thing at a time,  you mean restart it after I unplug one thing then another?
[06:20] <PrimoTurbo> or http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/
[06:20] <PrimoTurbo> but something else
[06:20] <hells> \join ubuntu forum
[06:20] <ChickenFire> PrimoTurbo, check http://kde-look.org
[06:20] <Madpilot> PrimoTurbo, http://www.vladstudio.com/wallpapers/
[06:20] <arrick1> shut it down then unplug one item at a time then startup
[06:20] <nickrud> Voldo, after you find the proper gamma value for your monitor, you can put it into your xorg.conf and make it permanent
[06:20] <Voldo> how do you do that?
[06:21] <nickrud> Voldo, you'd edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and set it there
[06:21] <hells> how do you change the resalution on linux
[06:21] <_madcap> hey <nickrud>, is there on wiki on the gamma thingy... I wanted to learn
[06:21] <Voldo> i don't know how to do that
[06:21] <hells> reselution
[06:21] <nickrud> _madcap, I'm not sure if there is or not
[06:22] <nickrud> !fixres
[06:22] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:22] <_madcap> k, ty
[06:22] <asterism> i used 855resolution
[06:22] <PrimoTurbo> This is a cool desktop http://home.cfl.rr.com/gamma/images/ss.png
[06:22] <hells> how do you change it tho
[06:22] <nickrud> yes, if you have one of those intel on board thingos, the 855resolution or 915resolution(?) can be helpful
[06:22] <PrimoTurbo> how can I get suse theme running in dapper?
[06:23] <moses> can you shut someone? if i give you the ip?
[06:23] <asterism> notebook = 855resolution, desktop = 915resolution
[06:23] <Voldo> how do you disable your onboad video card inside linux, I want to use my nvidia card
[06:23] <Madpilot> PrimoTurbo, Gnome themes should work in any distro, AFAIK
[06:23] <PrimoTurbo> Where do I find the Suse window theme then?
[06:24] <nickrud> Once you have the proper gamma identified, you'd add under the montior section Option "Gamma" x.x
[06:24] <eggzeck> Voldo, if that's a built-in video you need to disable in BIOS
[06:24] <Madpilot> PrimoTurbo, get it out of a Suse install?
[06:24] <Voldo> I tried it says its possible to select it, but don't let me disable it =[
[06:24] <feross> anyone running Postfix W an anti-virus/spam package? mimedefang, mailscanner, amavids?
[06:25] <eggzeck> Voldo, some don't allow disabling ;)
[06:25] <brandon_> what would be the command to start gdm?
[06:25] <feross> any recomendations on a package?
[06:25] <brandon_> startx defaults to kdm
[06:25] <eggzeck> brandon_, /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:25] <nickrud> brandon_, sudo update-alternatives --congfig gdm , select gdm
[06:25] <nickrud> feross, sure, shorewall
[06:25] <gerryxiao> hello
[06:26] <hells> how do you change the resolution on linux
[06:26] <Voldo> well my BIOs say in the instruction "select disable if you have another card" but the option isn't there
[06:26] <arrick1> !fixres
[06:26] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:26] <gerryxiao> which mainboard best for ubuntu?
[06:26] <eggzeck> nickrud, what the? 'he said start gdm' :)
[06:26] <gerryxiao> amd64 sock939
[06:27] <gerryxiao> how about DFI mainbord?
[06:27] <nickrud> eggzeck, but he said startx defaults to kdm, he can choose his display manager there (of course, that's a weird startx)
[06:27] <scarn> i likr DFI boards myself. cant speak to which is better for Ubuntu
[06:27] <eggzeck> nickrud, oh I didn't see that. =)
[06:27] <gerryxiao> i will buy new box, but don't any idea about mainbord
[06:27] <scarn> DFI rock
[06:28] <nickrud> eggzeck, I type slow. I get to see a lot of scrolled text :)
[06:28] <brandon_> nickrud "no alternatives for gdm"
[06:28] <brandon_> gdm doesn't start using the init.d script, but offers no errors
[06:28] <gerryxiao> scarn, for windows DFI rocks, but for linux? does kernel support it?
[06:28] <nickrud> brandon_, then sudo aptitude install gdm, to get gdm. But, what's your intent?
[06:28] <brandon_> gdm is installed
[06:29] <brandon_> my intent is to successfully start gnome
[06:29] <brandon_> without getting kicked out
[06:29] <gerryxiao> anyone here using DFI?
[06:29] <scarn> gerryxiao, i have no idea. i dont think there is a board aimed at linux? i run ubuntu on a DFI NF3 250Gb. its great
[06:29] <brandon_> if i logout and then start a new gnome session, shouldn't gdm start automatically?
[06:29] <feross> nickrud: shorewall hmm.. is it robust for like 700 domains?
[06:30] <gerryxiao> scarn, nice
[06:31] <gerryxiao> but it's said, in linux, Soundcard built in DFI is not good supported by ALSA?
[06:31] <nickrud> feross, you asked for a package, no clue on if it fits. And, I'm looking for a reason for my earlier advice :)
[06:32] <scarn> gerryxiao, maybe check ubuntu forums, to see what others are running.
[06:32] <gerryxiao> ok
[06:33] <scarn> my sound is fine, i will admint i havent really had time to tweak it though
[06:33] <scarn> *admit
[06:33] <nickrud> brandon_, exactly how are you starting X? are you using a display manager as provided by ubuntu, or a custom startx
[06:33] <scarn> plus my board is a little older now 8)
[06:33] <GTroy> arrick1, should that include the video card before restarting
[06:33] <GTroy> ?
[06:34] <arrick1> GTroy, if thats the last thing yes
[06:34] <GTroy> ok
[06:34] <arrick1> if you still cant post your powersupply is bad
[06:34] <nickrud> brandon_, because if you have a standard ubuntu install, it'll default to the gnome desktop
[06:34] <GTroy> ok good, I have another one
[06:34] <Pr0hibited> Hey guys, there was something I typed in my linux box which told me who was making any connections to my server... Can anyone tell me what that is?
[06:34] <gerryxiao> scarn, any good websites for linux hardware stuff?
[06:34] <GTroy> thanks arrick1
[06:34] <Pr0hibited> I think it had the word "flush" in it :s
[06:35] <nickrud> Pr0hibited, netstat ?
[06:35] <Pr0hibited> ah that might work
[06:35] <Pr0hibited> but that wasn't it
[06:35] <brandon_> nickrud: right now, i'm using kde, which works fine. gnome used to work fine, but there's some problem logging in and starting gdm, as it now kicks me out to the xdm login screen after ALMOST starting. i get to the desktop, but that's it
[06:35] <Pr0hibited> actually
[06:35] <Pr0hibited> no
[06:35] <Pr0hibited> It would sit there, and it would keep updating
[06:36] <nickrud> brandon_, kdm, gdm, xdm. which is it?
[06:36] <Pr0hibited> Someone is messing with my Digi Server, and I wanna find out who keeps connecting so fast
[06:36] <brandon_> kdm is what is running right now. obviously, gdm has to run if gnome is going to work, but it clearly has some problem
[06:37] <jadaz87> whould having wine and winex transgaming on at the same time be a good idea?
[06:37] <scarn> gerryxiao, for reviews and such maybe try http://www.linuxhardware.org/ google linux hardware ;)
[06:37] <PrimoTurbo> You guys know there was some app to make finding stuff very fast, what was the name beagle or something?
[06:37] <nickrud> brandon_, ah. bad thinking, the desktop is not the display manager. You can run gnome desktop, kde desktop, or any desktop from any of the display managers xdm, kdm, or gdm
[06:38] <gerryxiao> scarn, thx
[06:38] <PrimoTurbo> Does anyone use it and if so how much resources does it use? and how well does it work?
[06:38] <scarn> i see one DFI mobo review there
[06:38] <_jason> PrimoTurbo: I use it on dapper, I don't notice it running.  But there are some bugs, sometimes it will try to eat all my ram and I have to kill it...
[06:38] <brandon_> i know what a display manager does. but gnome isn't going to use kdm without some config changes. when it starts, it tries to use gdm
[06:39] <PrimoTurbo> _jason: How well does it work? Can it search across documents?
[06:39] <_jason> PrimoTurbo: it can search inside documents, is that what you mean?
[06:40] <_jason> PrimoTurbo: and it works well, I really like it
[06:40] <nickrud> brandon_, if kdm is not booting gnome properly, that is either a misuse or a bug.
[06:40] <Eleaf> uhm
[06:40] <nickrud> or, I'm just too trusting in thinging that the kde guys didn't account for gnome
[06:41] <PrimoTurbo> I see thanks for the info, yeah i mean that it can search inside documents
[06:41] <Madpilot> nickrud, there are probably KDE loyalists who think that booting Gnome would be a bug. ;)
[06:41] <nickrud> lol
[06:42] <Madpilot> (and vice versa, I'm sure - just to be fair) ;)
[06:43] <nickrud> heh. I don't use kde much, but I've looked at it enough to know that it'll run (and thank you)
[06:45] <learningtofry> hi room
[06:46] <SkipJack> what up?
[06:47] <PrimoTurbo> Is there any way to open an .rpm and get stuff out of it?
[06:48] <intelikey> quiet night.  was just thinking, i've never seen a bunch of kids with more of a 'my dog can beet your dog' syndrom than this channel generally has.   gnome is good....if you like gnome   kde is good if you like kde.  heck twm is good, if you like twm.  i kinda wish people would drop all the software prejudice and just enjoy it.    and stop using that micro-soft crap.    :)
[06:48] <intelikey> PrimoTurbo aren't they tgz'd ?
[06:49] <nickrud> intelikey, heh. I was happy when I had twm working, at one time in my life. You are absolutely correct (and I forgive the windows bashing :)
[06:50] <PrimoTurbo> This is the file I want to extract it has a wallpaper I want - http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/noarch/desktop-data-SuSE-10.1-25.noarch.rpm
[06:50] <GTroy> arrick1: I switched to another psu, and it won't even power up
[06:50] <PrimoTurbo> it appears as a text document on my desktop
[06:50] <gary> that's goo in enough foe me :)
[06:50] <Hobbsee> !tell PrimoTurbo about alien
[06:50] <PrimoTurbo> Archive Manager cannot open it
[06:50] <Hobbsee> PrimoTurbo: you could grab the source, if it's around somewhere
[06:50] <PrimoTurbo> the source?
[06:51] <intelikey> nickrud it was meant to be a pun, putting my self in the same boat.... :)
[06:51] <Xenguy> .oO(imagine a penis, then repeat... Micro... Soft...  coincidence? I think not :-P)
[06:51] <nickrud> intelikey, it was just too long and elaborate. I had to austen you
[06:51] <_madcap> PrimoTurbo: how about u convert the rpm to a deb using alien?
[06:51] <intelikey> austen ?
[06:52] <GTroy> austen?
[06:52] <nickrud> jane austen, are you illiterates?
[06:52] <intelikey> nickrud i kinda live in the woods.   austen whom ?
[06:52] <GTroy> how do you shorten austen
[06:52] <intelikey> never heard of jane austen...
[06:52] <PrimoTurbo> Getting alien now acctually
[06:52] <GTroy> you'd haven women throwing knives at you
[06:53] <nickrud> ok. Read the books. Jane Austen, she's in the library. I'm gonna just shut up
[06:54] <GTroy> yeah yeah sense and sensibiltiy
[06:54] <GTroy> emma
[06:54] <PrimoTurbo> What's the command to convert a rpm to dep using alien?
[06:54] <_madcap> Oi! tell me somethin'... how would be the two installations differ between the live Cd and the install cd. Does the live cd has less apps???
[06:55] <_madcap> shiity I forgot... lemme check
[06:57] <_madcap> alien --to-deb package.rpm
[06:57] <_madcap> thats it Primo
[06:58] <ecker> why am i getting : * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[06:59] <Jae2> Hi, I need some help configuring dual monitors
[06:59] <intelikey> ecker firewall blocking port?   not sure that will make it fial anyway.  just a thought
[07:00] <Drac|Win> In my haste to fix a problem involving my owning a one-button mouse, I accidentally enabled left-handed mouse mode. Now my mouse is useless. All it can do is right click! What file can I delete to reset this?
[07:01] <Evil_Monkey> I'm having an annoying problem while trying to remove the xubuntu-desktop package
[07:01] <Evil_Monkey> the thunar package doesn't remove and gives errors
[07:01] <Jae2> I think I have added the correct info to xorg.conf for dual monitors, both monitors are working, but I was looking for an "extended desktop" right now my second monitor is just a clone of the main
[07:01] <NetworkJester> anybody have ideas of what I can do in order to fix this???...... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13484
[07:02] <NetworkJester> anybody have ideas of what I can do in order to fix this???...... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13484
[07:02] <intelikey> Drac|Win do a grep -ie'left' $HOME/.*
[07:02] <intelikey> Drac|Win errr -R that maybe
[07:03] <Drac|Win> intelikey, it was a new install, so I just deleted the entire contents of the home folder. :P
[07:03] <Drac|Win> intelikey, any idea how I could get a one-button mouse to work with the hold-click thing, or perhaps a key+click thing?
[07:03] <_madcap> lol Darc
[07:04] <intelikey> sounds like my approach.   never force things just use a bigger hammer to persuade them to go willingly
[07:04] <_madcap> hahaha
[07:05] <Drac|Win> I REALLY need to get this one-button mouse to work. So far the only fix appears to be some kind of add-in script. I don't know how well that will go.
[07:05] <keithhhhh> hey can anyone tell me, is there any good video editing software for Ubuntu??
[07:05] <NetworkJester> anybody have ideas of what I can do in order to fix this???...... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13484
[07:06] <intelikey> NetworkJester b-e ?
[07:06] <NetworkJester> ??
[07:06] <intelikey> !b-e
[07:06] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[07:06] <jadaz87> in irssi do you do /connect or /server to be connected to multiple servers
[07:07] <NetworkJester> i got that installed already, lol that took a good hour to figure out
[07:07] <NetworkJester> but its a problem with my kernel files apparentley
[07:07] <NetworkJester> it says it cant find the build directory
[07:08] <intelikey> install kernel source and you may have to make a symlink,  i hearthat ubuntu puts it in the wrong dir
[07:08] <sethk> yes, that's correct.  The kernel should be in /usr/src/linux-XXXX   where XXXX is the version.  for example...
[07:08] <sethk>  /usr/src/linux-2.6.15.6
[07:08] <Pr0hibited> Ok, here's the deal. I need a firewall that can sniff packets, and tell me what IP it is coming from. Such a thing ?
[07:08] <intelikey> NetworkJester apt-cache search linux-
[07:08] <NetworkJester> hmmm
[07:09] <sethk> Pr0hibited, sure
[07:09] <baojdk> any PPC ubuntu users here?
[07:09] <Pr0hibited> And what would some names of firewalls be?
[07:09] <sethk> Pr0hibited, nothing special about that.  Any *NIX machine can do it.
[07:09] <Pr0hibited> How?
[07:09] <NetworkJester> intelikey: mmk now what??
[07:09] <sethk> Pr0hibited, I use the Ethereal program, which is one of two sniffers commonly used with linux
[07:09] <intelikey> Pr0hibited iptables  ipchanes
[07:09] <Drac|Win> intelikey, Ah hell, I've cleaned out my entire home directory and it STILL thinks it's a left-handed mouse! What can I do?!
[07:10] <sethk> Pr0hibited, ethereal is actually a front end, the underlying program is called tcpdump
[07:10] <sethk> Pr0hibited, a packet sniffer is just software
[07:10] <intelikey> NetworkJester install the one that is correct for you....
[07:10] <sethk> Pr0hibited, you can make a reasonably effective firewall from a unix/linux box with two NICs and iptables (which is ip filtering software)
[07:11] <NetworkJester> thats apt-get install right?
[07:11] <intelikey> Drac|Win yes i started to mention that might be in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf  not local to your user.
[07:11] <sethk> Pr0hibited, a good firewall should also use proxies, which is more difficult to set up, but certainly possible
[07:11] <sethk> Pr0hibited, you can buy one from the company I'm working for at the moment, as soon as I deliver the sniffer to them  :)
[07:12] <sethk> Pr0hibited, which will be in the next three weeks, but of course it won't actually be available at that point, has to be manufactured, etc.
[07:12] <intelikey> insider secrets ?
[07:12] <Pr0hibited> Well, could you guys tell me any "packet sniffers" that have the ability to run on a PC and sniff for packets, if it gets a certain packet, it will block it? The reason I say this is because, I run a DigiChat server, and it has a lot of exploits (but it's what my users like), however, I need to filter out some of the exploits. It can be done with a program called "WPE" (Winsock Packet Editor) on windows...
[07:12] <sethk> intelikey, not really, just not quite released yet
[07:12] <Drac|Win> intelikey, It doesn't seem to be...
[07:13] <sethk> intelikey, the earlier version is quite common but it doesn't have the sniffer
[07:13] <baojdk> any pcc users?
[07:13] <baojdk> trying to get gnutella working
[07:13] <sethk> Pr0hibited, now, the sniffer doesn't necessarily have to be on the firewall, although that's by far the best way to do it.
[07:13] <intelikey> Drac|Win just because you might have rm'd all the non-hiden stuff in your home    do ls -A   please
[07:14] <baojdk> any pcc users?
[07:14] <Drac|Win> intelikey, I think I might have missed something. I'll keep trying.
[07:14] <baojdk> ppc
[07:16] <Pr0hibited> Say I wanted to stop an IP from accessing anything on my site, instead of .htaccess how could I do like a firewall ban? I seen something about doing such a thing with iptables, but don't know the exact command
[07:16] <sethk> Pr0hibited, iptables is, as I said, an ip filter, which can certainly do that.
[07:16] <sethk> Pr0hibited, you can filter on the incoming ip, which is what it sounds like you want to do
[07:16] <eumario> Hello all.
[07:17] <sethk> Pr0hibited, you can reject packets from an ip, route them elsewhere, etc.
[07:17] <intelikey> send to /dev/null
[07:17] <eumario> Just got Ubuntu, got it installed from the CD, then when going into boot for the first time, the system freezes on hotplug.  Any ideas as to why it'd be freezing on hotplug?
[07:17] <Drac|Win> What's the keystroke to put X in keyboard-controlled cursor mode?
[07:18] <sethk> Pr0hibited, I'd have to look up the exact syntax.  the iptables web site has dozens of similar examples, it isn't hard to do.
[07:19] <intelikey> quicktables is a good tool for just that sort of thing
[07:19] <sethk> intelikey, true, although it's best to learn to construct the commands yourself, and then use the tool to eliminate the drudgery
[07:20] <intelikey> mmmk
[07:20] <eumario> Hmmm... I take that as a no. :(
[07:21] <intelikey> eumario no. i can't answer that.   you might try booting into safemode and remove hotplug
[07:21] <ubuntuneil> !breezy
[07:21] <ubotu> Breezy is the current stable version of Ubuntu. If you would like to upgrade to it, the guide to upgrading to Breezy is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:21] <intelikey> or just it's init script
[07:22] <Drac|Win> I know there's a way to make the keyboard function as a cursor control. Somebody here must know what it is... D:
[07:22] <ubuntuneil> !dante
[07:22] <ubotu> ubuntuneil: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:23] <eumario> intelikey: Kk, I'll try that, though seems kind a funky, to do it on the first bootup.
[07:24] <Drac|Win> intelikey, Don't you know?
[07:25] <nickrud> intelikey, there's a reason most of us don't put something resembling intelligent in our nicks
[07:26] <intelikey> Drac|Win actually i'm not totally gui ignorant but i run almost exclusivly in cli mode,  so no.  i don't know.
[07:26] <intelikey> nickrud :)
[07:26] <nickrud> ;)
[07:27] <intelikey> Drac|Win did you check your home dir like i asked you to ?
[07:28] <intelikey> Drac|Win do a grep -HiRae'left' $HOME/.*   <--- first thing i said about it.
[07:29] <RehanSAlvi> is anyone here from minnesota?
[07:29] <Pr0hibited> Ok
[07:29] <Pr0hibited> I found out who was messing with my site
[07:29] <Pr0hibited> Could I do something like this
[07:29] <Pr0hibited> sudo iptables -A INPUT -s 58 -j DROP
[07:29] <Pr0hibited> and ban any ip starting with 58
[07:29] <Pr0hibited> ?
[07:29] <Pr0hibited> host names?
[07:29] <br8> howdy all
[07:30] <intelikey> Pr0hibited if you prepend sethk  it might get answered quicker....
[07:31] <sgusev> hello, I'm in the process of installing Ubuntu and the installer seems to be stuck at the "create default user screen"
[07:31] <eric> can anyone help me get quicktime and mp3 deconding working for ubuntu dapper?
[07:31] <sgusev> i've tried searching the forums but im not exactly sure how to keywordify the problem
[07:31] <sethk> Pr0hibited, that's the general idea, yes.  I'd have to check the syntax, but that's either right or close
[07:32] <intelikey> eric the standard answer is that dapper is #ubuntu+1   although that is less than helpfull
[07:32] <intelikey> !mp3
[07:32] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:32] <eric> thanks ubotu
[07:32] <eric> what about getting quicktime to work with mozilla firefox?
[07:33] <shredder_> Sha na na Bunqueeda Sobequan Ubuntu
[07:33] <Pr0hibited> Thanks for the help guys
[07:34] <intelikey> !quicktime
[07:34] <ubotu> quicktime is, like, totally, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[07:34] <ville_> 
[07:34] <ville_> sjaag4
[07:35] <sgusev> This is the second time im installing ubuntu on the same computer, could that be the issue?
[07:35] <ville_> haloo
[07:35] <ville_> onk t ket suamalaisiii
[07:36] <intelikey> sgusev speaks of your skill, but no; there is no limit as to the number of installs one might preform on one box.
[07:36] <sgusev> the installer ran with no problems and is now looping at the Set up users and passwords screen
[07:37] <intelikey> sgusev did you set up a user account ?
[07:37] <intelikey> with password ?
[07:37] <sgusev> i'm putting in all the information and then it goes back to asking me for my full name
[07:38] <sgusev> its done this about five times now
[07:38] <Drac|Win> intelikey, I've tried your grep thing, and it turned up nothing. There doesn't seem to be anything related to it in the home folder, and it's not in the X config, either... Where the hell is it?!
[07:38] <sgusev> oh, i believe i've found the problem
[07:39] <sgusev> the /home directory was fat32
[07:40] <intelikey> sgusev ok.  do this.  hit [alt] +[F2]    [enter]    and type 'chroot /target passwd '   and type in a root password.  then [alt] +[f1]    and skip that step. go on with the install.   (assuming the password is set without error.)   then after you finish the install and reboot come back and we can clean that up.
[07:40] <ronlybonly> i have a dial-up connection, and it is working as slow as mud in ubuntu 5.04 (700-800 B/s). I have used the same modem (a TrendNet TFM-560X) with suse and fedora w/ no problems. what could be the problem?
[07:40] <intelikey> Drac|Win check /etc/X11 same string.
[07:41] <tritium> ronlybonly: I suggest you upgrade to 5.10, for starters.  Technically, 5.04 isn't supported any more.
[07:42] <LinusTorvalds> a.A
[07:42] <sethk> ronlybonly, I would guess either a patch to the relevant driver, or a newer kernel version (which amounts to the same thing)
[07:42] <intelikey> tritium ronlybonly just said dial-up.  aka "don't tell me to upgrade until you fix my modem issue..."
[07:42] <amac> well, he's actually from finland
[07:42] <ronlybonly> yeah, i'm waiting for shipit to start shipping Dapper. downloading the isos on dial-up is a huge pain.
[07:43] <amac> could it be the real Linus?
[07:43] <amac> i guess I blew his cover
[07:43] <sethk> amac, sure, it's theoretically possible
[07:43] <intelikey> amac could be but he lives in US now  lol
[07:44] <sethk> amac, after all, I'm Teddy Rosevelt, but I don't go around advertising the fact
[07:44] <amac> i figured linus likes attention
[07:44] <intelikey> nunt ahh  i'm Teddy Rosevelt
[07:44] <seraphim> if anybody knew i'm elvis...
[07:44] <sethk> seraphim, I've been looking _everywhere_ for you
[07:45] <seraphim> i got a quite good hideout :P
[07:45] <ronlybonly> and i am tupac. what of it?
[07:45] <intelikey> sethk well fine then.  just be Teddy Rosevelt.
[07:46] <harisund> Can I be Mark Shuttleworth?
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[07:47] <hierophant> What is expert mode?
[07:47] <jrmy> I have no sound can someone help?
[07:47] <seraphim> get yourself a soundcard
[07:47] <jrmy> lol thanks
[07:47] <intelikey> lets you have a little bit more control over the install hierophant
[07:48] <jrmy> have one need it to work
[07:48] <harisund> hierophant: If you do an installation in expert mode, you are basically telling the installer that you know a lot about teh installation process, and are prepared to answer many questions that let you customize the installation to a fine degree of detail
[07:48] <hierophant> how do you get into expert mode
[07:48] <harisund> hierophant: You would also use it to repeat exactly one stage of a process etc.. for example if you just want to reinstall grub.
[07:48] <lucos> I need to configure X so it doesnt make my eyes hurt
[07:49] <harisund> hieophant: I think you type expert at the command line instead of simply pressing enter when you boot with the install CD. (Can someone correct me if I am wrong?)
[07:49] <hierophant> The guy is interested in keeping his FAT32
[07:49] <intelikey> lucos sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:50] <Voldo> i tried that cmd, I had to reinstall ubuntu =[
[07:50] <jrmy> how do you get the powerpc kernel source?
[07:50] <harisund> reinstall ubuntu !!!!!!!!???
[07:50] <harisund> Voldo: I can't think of anything suicidal enough to warrant a reinstall ?
[07:50] <intelikey> hierophant as long as there is free (unpartitioned) space to install on...
[07:51] <ronlybonly> stupid question: can I update my 5.04 to dapper from the livecd?
[07:51] <intelikey> hierophant linux don't live in vfat space
[07:51] <jrmy> how do I get the powerpc kernel source?
[07:51] <harisund> ronlybonly: LiveCDs aren't meant to be updated. I doubt if it would even work (memory/space constraints)
[07:51] <hierophant> intelikey it does if you install in expert mode
[07:52] <intelikey> ronlybonly not unless you are an old hand at linux
[07:52] <harisund> hierophant: Yes you could install it on vfat, but it wouldn't work later. There are some wierd things that happen, like username and password being recognized or something along those lines.
[07:52] <intelikey> hierophant ?
[07:53] <stephenie> Hello everyone :)
[07:53] <harisund> Hello stephenie
[07:53] <ronlybonly> harisund: i read that the dapper livecd has an installer called espresso. and i was wondering if it was capable of updating my 5.04 as opposed to doing a fresh install.
[07:53] <intelikey> hierophant the ubuntu installer does not ficilitate installing onto vfat.  no.
[07:53] <harisund> ronlybonly: Hmm... interesting thought, but I doubt it would work.
[07:54] <Pistos> Is Postgresql under Ubuntu particularly challenging to setup?
[07:54] <ronlybonly> harisund: thanks anyway.
[07:54] <hierophant> Thanks guys
[07:54] <hierophant> Im out
[07:55] <verve> hi, had a question.. can the live cd versions be installed onto the hard disk? is that an option?
[07:55] <intelikey> hierophant simply put the only way that linux can live in vfat space is like the cosmonauts.  you would have to build an artificial environment for it.
[07:55] <verve> or it's either install version or livecd version
[07:55] <stephenie> Hello harisund :)
[07:55] <stephenie> Can someone help me with java issues?
[07:55] <harisund> stephenie: Java issues? How did you install Java? Did you follow the wiki instructions?
[07:56] <stephenie> i installed java from their website
[07:56] <stephenie> unpacked and installed it
[07:56] <stephenie> but i can't find the stinking directory that it installed in so i cant configure it
[07:56] <harisund> verve: Unless you have a Dapper LiveCD, you can't use the other live CDs to install.
[07:56] <Madpilot> stephenie, have you seen the Java info on the Ubuntu wiki?
[07:56] <verve> a Dapper LiveCD, eh?
[07:56] <verve> what might that be?
[07:57] <stephenie> madpilt: no i havent
[07:57] <Madpilot> verve, the next version of Ubuntu will allow for installation from the LiveCD
[07:57] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell stephenie about java
[07:57] <stephenie> sorry about that madpilot. i shouldnt smoke and type lol
[07:57] <verve> what about kubuntu?
[07:58] <harisund> verve, kubuntu follows the same pattern .
[07:58] <verve> a
[07:58] <verve> ah*
[07:58] <stephenie> thank you :)
[07:59] <harisund> verve, every version of Ubuntu that has been official released so far have come with an installCD and a LiveCD. The latest version that has not yet been officially released (due June) has the capability of a harddisk installation from the LiveCD itself.
[07:59] <harisund> verve, and it goes for kubuntu too..
[07:59] <verve> how do livecds work anyway? i've never used one.. how does it store, like.. user information?
[07:59] <corey> magic
[07:59] <verve> :P
[07:59] <corey> no for real
[07:59] <Madpilot> verve, it uses your RAM to run, and once you shut it down, all your settings are lost
[07:59] <harisund> verve: I am inclined to think the computer memory is used for that. Volatile naturally, so you can't save anything across sessions.
[08:00] <verve> yeah
[08:00] <verve> 's what i figured, wasn't sure though
[08:00] <harisund> Typically verve, they are used for purposes like checking if every hardware you have is recognized and works 'out of the box'.
[08:00] <roryy> can be handy for rescue too
[08:00] <firebird619> I installed GnomeRadio today, and ever since, the sound for GnomeRadio, tvtime, etc sounds awful. There is alot of static and it comes through the speakers very loud even though I have the volume turned almost all the way down. At first I thought it might be static due to reception, but that wouldn't make tvtime and everything else have static. Could anyone help me?
[08:00] <mitsuhiko> Moin! :-)
[08:00] <harisund> If you know some hardware (printer, wireless card etc..) works with the LiveCD, you can breathe a sigh of relief and install it, knowing that you wouldn't have to spend time getting the hardware to work
[08:01] <Madpilot> again, the next version will have "LiveCD persistance" - you'll be able to set a USB key up with your settings, and mount that in the LiveCD session - so you could get "your" OS on any computer
[08:01] <mitsuhiko> is there a way to move the X11 screen 4px to left?
[08:01] <harisund> Really Madpilot? Wow .. that sounds neat
[08:01] <lufis> Hi. I'm editing the xorg.conf file by hand and I'm wondering how to correctly set the sync rate. On the back of my monitor, it says "50x60hz"
[08:01] <corey> 60hz
[08:01] <Madpilot> harisund, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDPersistence
[08:02] <verve> i'm in FreeBSD right now.. just tired of lack of support for it.. games, etc..
[08:02] <harisund> awesome... Dapper continues to surprise and amaze me daily
[08:02] <verve> not its fault, by any means
[08:02] <corey> anyone know how to easily add a shutdown button on system menu?
[08:02] <harisund> verve: if you are a freeBSD user, you will have no trouble at all with ubuntu. To begin with you will be familiar with the command line and that is totally great :)
[08:02] <verve> harisund: yep, heh
[08:03] <verve> haven't used linux in a while
[08:03] <intelikey> corey the little red door not there ?
[08:03] <harisund> Wow madpilot, I haven't used the Dapper LiveCD and hence didn't know about it earliear.
[08:03] <corey> ? nope
[08:03] <ronlybonly> harisund, dyne:bolic linux has the same persistence feature. it's pretty cool, but i would prefer a hd install anyday.
[08:03] <corey> i think when i installed kde it took it away
[08:03] <corey> just have lock screen and log out now
[08:04] <harisund> ronlybonly: oh ok . Yeah, but at times LiveCDs are quite handy. But i am guessing at those times you don;t really need the persistance feature, but nevertheless it's an awesome feature to have.
[08:04] <Madpilot> corey, the log out option will get you to restart/shutdown/etc as well
[08:04] <verve> i should go buy a dvd burner, so if i do wanna install it, i won't have to use ten million cds to back stuff up
[08:04] <verve> heh
[08:04] <farous> corey are you running gnome under kubuntu?
[08:04] <corey> no
[08:04] <corey> ubuntu with kubuntu desktop
[08:04] <farous> ok
[08:04] <Rug> Howdy
[08:04] <corey> idk why it doesnt have a shutdown button
[08:04] <farous> so are you running kdm or gdm do you know?
[08:04] <corey> gdm
[08:04] <corey> er
[08:04] <corey> kdm sorry
[08:05] <ronlybonly> harisund, liveCDs are handy, but you need to have both the cd and the usb drive with you - it's kind of a hassle.
[08:05] <harisund> hehe . yeah
[08:05] <farous> then i have no idea corey better ask in #kubuntu room
[08:05] <corey> yea i guess os
[08:05] <ronlybonly> but i agree, it is a useful feature (sometimes)
[08:05] <intelikey> does the installer resize vfat ?
[08:06] <tripppy> how do i get remote desktop working with ubuntu?
[08:06] <harisund> tripppy: By remote desktop,what do you mean?
[08:06] <harisund> Do you want to connect to another machine or do you want to be able to connect to your current Ubuntu machine?
[08:06] <tripppy> ronlybonly, live cd and files on a 2GIG usb drive. USB boot.
[08:06] <tripppy> i want to connect into a ubuntu box.
[08:07] <PORDO> can someone please take a look at this compiler error? http://rafb.net/paste/results/5Iifkd57.html
[08:07] <tripppy> im uising as a firewall/file/print server.
[08:07] <bigfoot1> i need to submit a digital jpeg. the only requirement is that it be at least 300 dpi. how can i check a jpeg's dpi information?
[08:07] <farous> tripppy: i use ssh -X username@host but there is an option under gdmsetup that you can use
[08:07] <tripppy> i also need to share the printer...
[08:07] <whyami> does breezy have captive-ntfs support built-in?
[08:07] <harisund> tripppy: If it's from one Ubuntu to another Ubuntu, the options you have are VNC and X forwarding through SSH.
[08:07] <holycow> bigfoot1, gimp or gthumb
[08:08] <ronlybonly> trippy, i heard of somebody selling a bootable 3 gig usb drive with ubuntu installed.
[08:08] <tripppy> its XP to ubuntu. ubuntu box doesnt have a monitor
[08:08] <tripppy> ronlybonly, nice. in .au 2gig is the biggest.
[08:08] <bigfoot1> holycow: i'm in gimp
[08:08] <harisund> Oh XP to Ubuntu. Ok, still you have the options of X - SSH and VNC. But first you will have to set up Ubuntu to allow for VNC connections.
[08:08] <bigfoot1> where do i go to see this info?
[08:08] <guest> hi
[08:09] <tripppy> i had the remote desktop feature working.. using VNC on XP.
[08:09] <gtesvt> ye anyone know the LILO lines to boot up UBUNTU
[08:09] <harisund> tripppy :)
[08:09] <ronlybonly> trippy, it sounds like a good idea, but they were asking for some obscene amount of money for it.
[08:09] <holycow> bigfoot1, image / scale image
[08:09] <hajuu> .... have who what?
[08:10] <hajuu> :P
[08:10] <zorgluuu> q. im a latop with ubuntu 5.10 and i keep having 'hdb: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)' in dmesg. hdb is my cdrom. any suggestion ?
[08:10] <tripppy> mmm. i know port 5901 need to be open. for tcp or udp?
[08:10] <Rug> has anybody apt-get dist-upgrade'ed lately and are getting "gtk2-engines-crux" bjorked in apt?
[08:10] <stratking> hey all, i'm having problems w/ my wireless, i use network monitor and it will tell me that my wireless is disconnected but my network settings tells me it's active
[08:10] <bigfoot1> holycow: i'm in scale image. where's the info? Also i checked gthumb, there's a bunch of data , but i don't see the word DPI anywhere.
[08:10] <holycow> what do you mean where is the info?
[08:10] <stratking> i'm guessing there's a diff. between active and connected
[08:10] <holycow> its right there, jesus
[08:10] <stratking> anyone know how to connect the wireless, not just activate it?
[08:10] <bigfoot1> holycow: i'm looking for the word "dpi" in gimp and gthumb, i don't see it.
[08:11] <holycow> x resolution, y resolution
[08:11] <holycow> not only do i haveto telly you what tool to use, or where in the ui it is, i haveto read the damned ui toyou
[08:11] <holycow> c'mon man
[08:11] <ecker> How do i remove ssh from boot?
[08:11] <bigfoot1> holycow: easy.
[08:11] <bigfoot1> take it easy.
[08:11] <bigfoot1> i'm a newbie
[08:11] <bigfoot1> you didn't have to read it to me
[08:11] <tripppy> harisund, where do i start with VNC? i mean it was working then now its not!
[08:11] <bigfoot1> i DID see X resolution and Y resolution.
[08:12] <ville_> mooro
[08:12] <Madpilot> holycow, cool it, OK?
[08:12] <holycow> k. sorry
[08:12] <holycow> bigfoot1, appologies
[08:12] <tripppy> harisund, on the ubuntu box i can connect via vnc on localhost:0
[08:12] <bigfoot1> but how do i connect that info (72 X, 72 Y) with what i was told ("give me a jpeg of at least 300 dpi).
[08:12] <bigfoot1> ?
[08:12] <NoobSauce> I muted my sound using the gnome volume control applet and for some reason it won't unmute now...
[08:12] <dbzdeath> are there any disadvantages for using scsi emulation on your dvd burner?
[08:12] <NoobSauce> anyone have ideas on solutions?
[08:12] <bigfoot1> holycow: not at all
[08:12] <ville_> onko tl suomalaisii????????????
[08:12] <holycow> bigfoot1, heres a guess
[08:12] <holycow> how about input 300 instead of 72 in there?
[08:13] <gtesvt> how is LILO configured for ubuntu??
[08:13] <holycow> gtesvt, its not
[08:13] <holycow> no one uses lilo bro
[08:13] <dli> gtesvt, can you use grub?
[08:13] <dbzdeath> yeah ubuntu uses grub
[08:13] <gtesvt> i installd another os
[08:13] <gtesvt> and it didnt detect ubuntu, and its on lilo
[08:13] <bigfoot1> holycow: are you joking about this being a "guess"?
[08:14] <holycow> no that was axctgually sarcasm bro
[08:14] <bigfoot1> holycow: i changed it to 300 x, 300 y, but the image looks the same
[08:14] <holycow> *sigh*
[08:14] <gtesvt> so i need to use lilo,
[08:14] <bigfoot1> holycow: thank you for bearing with me
[08:14] <holycow> of course it 'looks the same
[08:14] <dbzdeath> gtesvt: um.. you could do a grub-install and use grub
[08:14] <ronlybonly> gvtest: i would run the ubunto install cd and skip to the "install a bootloader" section - it should detect your other os.
[08:14] <bigfoot1> what's the difference then
[08:14] <holycow> but print one out at 72 dpi
[08:14] <holycow> then print one out at 300 dpi and see
[08:14] <ville_> 
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[08:14] <ville_> 
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[08:14] <ville_> 
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[08:15] <dbzdeath> er
[08:15] <dbzdeath> +b?
[08:15] <ronlybonly> or grub-install :D
[08:15] <bigfoot1> i wonder if i can see the differnce if i zoom up.
[08:15] <holycow> then try to figure out what you needto do to get the image to whatever form you needit in
[08:15] <intelikey> ville_ are you just trying to get banned ?
[08:15] <bigfoot1> can one see the difrference without printing?
[08:15] <bigfoot1> holycow ?
[08:15] <holycow> graphic design is surprisingly sophisticated and i don't have time to teach you the theory ... if it says 300 its 300dpi, as you inquired
[08:15] <bigfoot1> holycow: ok.
[08:15] <Madpilot> bigfoot1, probably not - monitors are low res, only 76 or 92 dpi usually
[08:16] <holycow> bigfoot1, not without having a clue, there is too much to teach you for you to see the difference.  printing is the easiest way to visualize whats going on
[08:16] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: even if i zoom it up?
[08:16] <cafe> cafe time manager for linux to control windows clients
[08:16] <naut> is there a tool in ubuntu for manging services
[08:16] <dbzdeath> are there any disadvantages to using scsi emulation on a dvd burner?
[08:16] <intelikey> naut update-rc.d
[08:16] <gtesvt> so i guess UBUNTu and LILO is hopeless/
[08:16] <bigfoot1> holycow: i'm just a bit confused, i thought you couldn't get an image crisper (add detail), though you could make it duller (lose detail).
[08:17] <naut> intelikey, cheers
[08:17] <bigfoot1> isn't it the same with increasing dpi?
[08:17] <Madpilot> bigfoot1, yeah, if you zoom in, you should see the difference - but keep in mind that if you take a low res image up to higher dpi, it won't aquire any detail...
[08:17] <dbzdeath> gtesvt: well no... it should be possible
[08:17] <dbzdeath> gtesvt: but why use lilo?
[08:17] <holycow> bigfoot1, yes, but when you changed the dpi it actually made the image smaller proportionally
[08:17] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: so did it do any good for me to change an image from 72x,72y to 300x,300y?
[08:17] <holycow> that is at 72 dpi it was 8 inches
[08:17] <intelikey> gtesvt i use lilo
[08:17] <holycow> at 300 dpi its 1.5 inches in size
[08:17] <bigfoot1> ok. i see
[08:17] <holycow> therefore proportionally the viewable resolution is 1:1, no loss of reso
[08:17] <holycow> but
[08:17] <ronlybonly> woah, i've never met a real live lilo user before.
[08:18] <bigfoot1> i see
[08:18] <bigfoot1> that makes sense
[08:18] <dbzdeath> ronlybonly: there are plenty
[08:18] <holycow> if yo uwere to keep it at 8 inches (see read the dialog above x res), and upped it to 300 dpi
[08:18] <holycow> then it would blur
[08:18] <bigfoot1> holycow: good news, i'm getting a clue, thanks to your education!
[08:18] <dbzdeath> just not many ubuntu users that use lilo
[08:18] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[08:18] <[WP] IOWAHC> Hy @ all... My Ubuntu always destroys my root directory. On a reboot he can't even mount it anymore. This appears since I installed kernel 2.6.12-10.
[08:19] <whyami> is there a way to restart hal without rebooting?
[08:19] <NPC_Crystufer> Helo.
[08:19] <intelikey> dbzdeath so many never stray from default....
[08:19] <ronlybonly> dbzdeath: i used lilo on my slackware box a few years back. I never acquired a taste for it though.
[08:19] <dbzdeath> to me it's .. just less advanced
[08:19] <holycow> well there is a reason that grub was written
[08:19] <intelikey> whyami sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart       better tab complete that
[08:20] <whyami> intelikey: hal isn't there...
[08:20] <intelikey> whyami i think it may be hald
[08:20] <NPC_Crystufer> Can anyone tell me how to make a new grub entry so that my linux box boots into text mode and then starts my steam client?
[08:20] <intelikey> whyami that's why i said "tab complete"    doh
[08:20] <whyami> intelikey: nope. Tab complete only gives halt...
[08:20] <whyami> intelikey: I had already tried tab complete...which is why I responded as I did.
[08:21] <NPC_Crystufer> Also, how to link the command steam to the script /home/dsl/hlds_l/steam ?
[08:21] <[WP] IOWAHC> My Ubuntu always destroys my root directory. On a reboot he can't even mount it anymore. Only after a fsck it is possible to start again. But I become tired of doing a fsck everytime I reboot. This appears since I installed kernel 2.6.12-10.
[08:21] <firebird619> I installed GnomeRadio today and ever since the sound has been full of static and loud (even with the sound turned almost all the way down). The sound from tvtime and other programs also have static. Can anyone help me?
[08:21] <[WP] IOWAHC> Any Suggestions?
[08:21] <bigfoot1> holycow: i changed to 300dpi in gimp, but the image size is the same
[08:21] <intelikey> hmm whyami i'm sure i remember removing it from this system.... but as the the exact name.... idk
[08:21] <bigfoot1> i thought it would automatically shrink.
[08:22] <bigfoot1> i want it to automatically shrink
[08:22] <gtesvt> intelikey: what do you use for your image =     for lilo
[08:22] <holycow> bigfoot1, please stop asking me, i don't have patience for teaching basics that one can solve just by reading the single dialog box i READ OUT TO YOU ALREADY
[08:23] <holycow> i mean that nicely
[08:23] <intelikey> !paste
[08:23] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[08:23] <holycow> maybe someone else can take over instead
[08:23] <PrimoTurbo> What's a good bittorrent client besides Azueres for Linux, something that supports DHT
[08:23] <bigfoot1> sniff
[08:23] <bigfoot1> sorry to bother you
[08:24] <holycow> it's allright
[08:24] <Rug> PrimoTurbo: rtorrent
[08:24] <NoobSauce> on a similar note, when I start azureus in gnome, it gives a warning, something like could not find UDP or something, anyways, this just will not close!
[08:24] <PrimoTurbo> it's console based, dunno if I like that
[08:24] <NoobSauce> thus I cannot use azureus
[08:25] <roryy> bigfoot1: what do you want to do with your image?
[08:25] <ronlybonly> is there a good p2p client (like mldonkey) in the ubuntu apt repositories?
[08:25] <PrimoTurbo> anything else?
[08:25] <intelikey> gtesvt http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d13485
[08:25] <Rug> PrimoTurbo: this is linux, all the best tools are CLI based
[08:25] <PrimoTurbo> I want something with an interface
[08:25] <bigfoot1> roryy: thank you.
[08:25] <PrimoTurbo> there must be something other then Azureus
[08:25] <bigfoot1> roryy: i was asked to submit an image that is at least 300 dpi
[08:25] <Rug> not really
[08:25] <PrimoTurbo> Azureus is such a damn system hog on my computer
[08:26] <zcat> amule
[08:26] <Madpilot> PrimoTurbo, what's the default Gnome BT client lacking?
[08:26] <bigfoot1> roryy: in gimp/scale image, it has 72 X, 72Y.
[08:26] <PrimoTurbo> DHT
[08:26] <Madpilot> what is DHT?
[08:26] <roryy> bigfoot1: what is the source of this image?
[08:26] <bigfoot1> roryy: idigtal camera
[08:26] <Rug> PrimoTurbo: bittornado-gui   is your only other hope
[08:26] <Rug> BUT that doesn't support DHT
[08:26] <PrimoTurbo> forget what it stands for but desentrilized stuff
[08:26] <Rug> Madpilot: it Encrypts your BT traffic
[08:27] <[WP] IOWAHC> My Ubuntu always destroys my root directory. On a reboot he can't even mount it anymore. Only after a fsck it is possible to start again. But I become tired of doing a fsck everytime I reboot. This appears since I installed kernel 2.6.12-10.
[08:27] <PrimoTurbo> that's not what I mean
[08:27] <intelikey> gtesvt that is an example.  much of the info probably will need changed for your system.
[08:27] <ronlybonly> zcat, thanks
[08:27] <Madpilot> Rug, ah. Interesting.
[08:27] <PrimoTurbo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table
[08:27] <zcat> [WP] IOWAHC: so roll back to a kernel that works?
[08:27] <gtesvt> sweet thanks intelikey
[08:27] <gtesvt> i was missing all the append
[08:27] <zcat> # Osmo Salomas CVS amule packages (packages, GPG key: 70188C3B)
[08:27] <zcat> deb http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu breezy/
[08:27] <PrimoTurbo> dycrypting packets is another one
[08:27] <Rug> Madpilot: too many ISP block BT traffic, so by encrypting it, it allows for access
[08:27] <PrimoTurbo> but my ISP doesn't block so it doesn't matter
[08:28] <intelikey> [WP] IOWAHC raid ?
[08:28] <PrimoTurbo> Rug this is not it
[08:28] <roryy> bigfoot1: does this image have to be a particular size ?
[08:28] <zcat> amule is pretty good..
[08:28] <PrimoTurbo> DHT is not that
[08:28] <[WP] IOWAHC> intelikey. no
[08:28] <Rug> DHT ALSO allows for peer-to-peer traffic bypassing the need for the central tracker
[08:28] <stephenie> i think i just killed my broswer
[08:28] <bigfoot1> roryy: i wasn't told so. the only thing i was told was "please submit an image with at least 300 dpi". that's all
[08:29] <[WP] IOWAHC> I read about a command called update-initrd
[08:29] <[WP] IOWAHC> why isn't it there?
[08:29] <PrimoTurbo> DHT is decentralization for bittorrent, but it won't stop u from having bittorrent blocked if your ISP does so
[08:29] <simonp_> I'd like to install kdevelop on ubuntu, anybody know how?
[08:29] <PrimoTurbo> encrypting packets or whatever
[08:30] <Rug> simonp_: apt-get install kdevelop   ??
[08:30] <roryy> bigfoot1: well, it looks to me like right-click, image -> Print Size is what you want
[08:30] <simonp_> Rug, I got this "No candidate version found for kdevelop"
[08:30] <odat> anyone know how i fully uninstall ubuntu-desktop since i want to use xubuntu
[08:30] <intelikey> hmmm i may need that 911 number, what was it again ?
[08:30] <roryy> bigfoot1: you should see there how increasing DPI reduces the size in inches/cm
[08:30] <bigfoot1> roryy: yes! that seems to be it
[08:30] <bigfoot1> roryy: yes i do. that's perfect
[08:31] <simonp_> 0 packages upgrades, 0 newly installed ...
[08:31] <jeff303> is there anyway to configure gnome-bittorrent?  for instance, I want to set up the port, max dl/upload speed, etc.?
[08:31] <Rug> kdevelop3
[08:31] <bigfoot1> that's much better than the image/scale image solution, where the image size doesn't change when i increase the X, Y resolution!
[08:31] <bigfoot1> perfect
[08:31] <bigfoot1> roryy: thansk
[08:31] <Rug> simonp_: apt-get install kdevelop3
[08:31] <intelikey> odat apt-get remove xlibs  ?
[08:31] <Madpilot> jeff303, start gnome-torrent; one of the tabs in it allows for throttling/max users/etc
[08:31] <simonp_> Rug, it seems work. Thx!
[08:31] <Rug> np
[08:32] <bigfoot1> holycow: 8-)
[08:32] <odat> intelikey, i want to remove all gnome stuff in order to only use xubuntu
[08:32] <jeff303> Madpilot, I see Cap uploads and Cap upload rate... is that it?
[08:32] <stephenie> Madpilot i follwed the instructions for the site and now my browser wont connect
[08:32] <intelikey> odat apt-get remove xlibs  ?
[08:32] <Madpilot> jeff303, yes
[08:32] <roryy> bigfoot1: hmm. hang on, that DPI setting does not seem to get saved.
[08:32] <jeff303> Madpilot, ok, do you know of any way to change which tcp port it uses?
[08:32] <Madpilot> stephenie, sorry, which instructions for what?
[08:32] <stephenie> ah nvm I fixed it :D
[08:32] <odat> intelikey, is that a question?
[08:32] <Madpilot> jeff303, not offhand
[08:32] <intelikey> odat that should take every thing gnome with it.
[08:32] <jeff303> Madpilot, ok thanks
[08:33] <bigfoot1> roryy: oh, it doesn't?
[08:33] <odat> intelikey, doe i use the question mark >?
[08:33] <intelikey> odat no
[08:33] <intelikey> and sudo it
[08:34] <roryy> bigfoot1: apologies, it *does* get saved. I had a few copies of my test image open, and got confused
[08:34] <odat> intelikey, so that will take out everything (including gnome and its gnome specific programs) without killing my system?
[08:34] <[WP] IOWAHC> Any Suggestions?
[08:34] <bigfoot1> roryy:if it does, how come the image size is still the same? i thought it would shrink?
[08:35] <roryy> bigfoot1: you mean the size on your screen?
[08:35] <mneptok> odat: why not just wait for Dapper and then upgrade using the Xubuntu disc?
[08:35] <bigfoot1> roryy: yes
[08:35] <intelikey> odat should.   and then you can sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop   ?
[08:35] <odat> intelikey, i've done that
[08:36] <bigfoot1> when i have both images (one at its original 72x72y, and the other at 300 x, 300y) at 100 percent zoom, they look the same
[08:36] <intelikey> odat you will remove it also with that remove command
[08:36] <odat> intelikey, and now i don't want gnome or its apps i just want to use xubuntu on this old system
[08:36] <roryy> bigfoot1: right-click, View -> Dot for Dot (make it unchecked) and then press '1'
[08:36] <nmsa> hi
[08:36] <bigfoot1> what does "1" do?
[08:36] <bigfoot1> roryy: ?
[08:36] <intelikey> odat so you will still need to   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop   ?
[08:37] <roryy> bigfoot1: set view to '100%'
[08:37] <bigfoot1> roryy: i see
[08:37] <odat> intelikey, i''ve already install xubuntu-desktop
[08:37] <roryy> bigfoot1: dot-for-dot means one image pixel corresponds to 1 screen pixel.  It looks like turning it off makes it try to use your screen's and the image's DPI settings.
[08:37] <roryy> bigfoot1: make that set zoom to 100%
[08:38] <bigfoot1> yes
[08:38] <bigfoot1> roryy: thanks!!!
[08:38] <intelikey> odat what part of this are you missing.  if you do sudo apt-get remove xlibs to remove gnome it will take xubuntu with it......
[08:38] <intelikey> i don't know how to make that anymore clear
[08:38] <nmsa> anyone on AMD64 CPU? what jre version are you using? on java.com site there is a note on Linux AMD64 download:  Please use the 32-bit version for Java applet and Java Web Start support ... does it mean 32 bit version to be installed ?
[08:38] <odat> intelikey, so are you saying that i need to do this all from recovery mode?
[08:38] <PrimoTurbo> why does azureus need mozilla-browser?
[08:39] <intelikey> odat no just drop to a console.
[08:39] <thosewhoharp> Linux n00b here. I was just wondering if anyone here can point me to a tutorial for installing a driver from a source *.tar.gz pkg. PM me if you can help.
[08:39] <Hobbsee> !tell thosewhoharp about compile
[08:39] <odat> intelikey, with ctrl alt backspace?
[08:39] <holycow> !flash
[08:39] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:39] <intelikey> odat you have login tty's     [ctrl] +[alt] +[F#] 
[08:40] <intelikey> odat x normally lives in tty7
[08:40] <holycow> does anyone know of a mirror for install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz ... macromedias download link is still broken
[08:40] <holycow> *grumble*
[08:40] <mneptok> nmsa: there is no Sun-supplied Java browser plugin for X86-64
[08:40] <odat> intelikey, ok thats a little beyond me i guess i will just live with it
[08:40] <intelikey> ok.      :)
[08:40] <mneptok> nmsa: there is also no Flash plugin for X86-64
[08:40] <holycow> indeed
[08:40] <holycow> thank you proprietary world
[08:40] <holycow> always looking out for our us diligently and responsibly
[08:41] <suriya> does anyone know if nautilus supports unicode of the box? i.e. are unicode filenames displayed properly?
[08:41] <mneptok> holycow: you can get it via Synaptic/apt without issue
[08:41] <intelikey> odat  you can use synaptic and select by hand all that you know pertains to gnome and remove that way.... only takes about 5 hours.
[08:41] <holycow> mneptok, can you please stop saying shit
[08:41] <holycow> clearly you have no clue
[08:41] <holycow> so go away
[08:41] <odat> intelikey, lololol
[08:41] <holycow> damned newbs tha tknow nothing
[08:41] <odat> intelikey, well i just don't want to break my system or loose everything
[08:41] <oscarmv> yeah, damn then *spits*
[08:41] <mneptok> holycow: uhhh .... speaking of "know nothing...."
[08:42] <holycow> bro, just shutup
[08:42] <suriya> i am testing ubuntu dapper and i have problems displaying unicode filenames
[08:42] <mneptok> <--- Senior Ubuntu System Support Specialist, Canonical Ltd.
[08:42] <thosewhoharp> yeah again if someone knows a page so I can compile a driver from a source pkg, please PM me oor let me know here
[08:42] <holycow> that installer just download the driver from macromedia
[08:42] <holycow> as its not up
[08:42] <holycow> you clearly are not qualified to recommend a solution
[08:42] <mneptok> holycow: worked perfectly less than 4 houras ago
[08:42] <mneptok> *hours
[08:42] <nmsa> mneptok: meanina chroot must be used for Java ans Flash?
[08:42] <holycow> so, anyone know of a mirror for macromedias shitty plugin?
[08:42] <PORDO> can someone help me with a compile issue?
[08:42] <bigfoot1> mneptok: you work for canonical?
[08:43] <mneptok> bigfoot1: yes
[08:43] <PORDO> mneptok didn't you used to use beos?
[08:43] <bigfoot1> mneptok: wow!
[08:43] <nmsa> s/meanina/meaning/
[08:43] <ecker> anyone get azerous installed ?
[08:43] <PORDO> /usr/local/include/libzfone/zfone_crypto.h:12:16: error: /usr/local/include/libzfone/bn.h: Permission denied <-- ?
[08:43] <mneptok> nmsa: yeah, if you want Sun Java and Flash plugins under X86-64 you need a chroot'ed 32 bit browser
[08:43] <PORDO> is this a permissions issue?
[08:43] <oscarmv> duh
[08:43] <bigfoot1> i did some minor editing on a digital picture i took in gimp. How can i make sure there are no traces of this in the jpeg data (is it called exif data)?
[08:43] <mneptok> PORDO: yes, i used to run BeOS support operations for Gobe Software
[08:43] <intelikey> odat you mentioned that being an "older" system,  may i ask the spec's on it ?
[08:43] <bigfoot1> mneptok: what browser do you use?
[08:44] <nmsa> mneptok: where can I get more info/doc on this? never used chroot before; 'thnx
[08:44] <mneptok> bigfoot1: Fx
[08:44] <nmsa> or man chroot ?
[08:44] <odat> intelikey, p3 1 ghz 528 ram
[08:44] <fid_> I have a question
[08:44] <mneptok> nmsa: i think there's a fairly detailed tutorial on the Ubuntu Forums
[08:44] <fid_> how can I log on to my linux machine from my windows machine with the command prompt if they are both on the same router?
[08:44] <nmsa> mneptok: ok, heading there :) 'thnx
[08:44] <fid_> from a windows command prompt get the linux bash?
[08:44] <mneptok> fid_: PuTTY on Windows
[08:44] <suriya> does anyone know about the status of unicode support in nautilus?
[08:44] <holycow> okay how about rephrasing the question
[08:45] <intelikey> fid ssh
[08:45] <holycow> can someone download the install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz frommacromedia and dcc me? or post it on a mirror
[08:45] <holycow> my self and a ton of people cannot download the plug
[08:45] <mneptok> fid_: if you're using a stock (K)(X)Ubuntu, you'll need to install the OpenSSH-server package
[08:45] <fid_> hmmm
[08:46] <intelikey> holycow url ?
[08:46] <holycow> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[08:46] <holycow> pls and thank you :)
[08:46] <rane_> why does my bittornado download so slow all the time?
[08:47] <intelikey> it's downloading fine here...
[08:47] <holycow> intelikey, thats fine, it doesn't for a whole bunch of people
[08:47] <holycow> which is really not at question here
[08:47] <holycow> can you dcc it?
[08:47] <intelikey> and in about 20 minutes i'll have it    lol  dialup
[08:47] <holycow> i can't grab it from them
[08:47] <holycow> oh dialup :
[08:47] <holycow> :) nm then
[08:48] <bigfoot1> how do i see all exif data in a digital jpeg file?
[08:48] <bigfoot1> Coz i want to see whether Gimp added anything when i worked on a digital picture in gimp.
[08:48] <intelikey> holycow yes if you have the time.  i'll dcc.send it to you and you can mirror it someplace for others
[08:49] <holycow> intelikey, don't spend your valuable dialup bandwidth on my silly little problem :)
[08:49] <holycow> surf away bro, i appreciate it
[08:49] <holycow> i'll convince someone that wont notice it at some time
[08:49] <roryy> bigfoot1: gimp has its own channel, #gimp -- you can try asking there.
[08:49] <holycow> thanks appreciate it
[08:49] <bigfoot1> roryy: i tried. it's quiet there.
[08:49] <bigfoot1> roryy: i'll try again
[08:50] <intelikey> s/bandwidth/bandnarrowness/
[08:51] <intelikey> just 2 mo minutes
[08:52] <riddick> what file do it edit to add a permanent gateway?  I thought it was /etc/hosts
[08:52] <scorpion> espaol?
[08:53] <Madpilot> !es
[08:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:53] <holycow> woot!
[08:53] <holycow> intellikey to tha rescue
[08:53] <holycow> thanks mate :)
[08:54] <intelikey> np
[08:54] <ronlybonly> i have been running apt-get update for the past half hour, and it looks like another 30 minutes-1 hour left. oh, the joys of dial-up :D
[08:55] <NoobSauce> I have a bunch of files in nested directories. does anyone know how to get the files out of those directories and into one central location?
[08:55] <NoobSauce> it's too many to do by hand
[08:55] <ronlybonly> 891 B/s - that has to be some kind of record
[08:55] <pedro> is there an howto on using lilo on Dapper? I couldn't find an option to choose lilo with the installer, and grub is (again) having problems on my computer
[08:56] <riddick> anyone know where to set the default gateway?  i have been doing it with /sbin/route add default gw blah  i dont need to do this every time right  do i created a file /etc/route?
[08:56] <intelikey> ronlybonly yeah and some "fools" have the gaul to ask you to do two step dist-upgrade..... 3 weeks worth of dialup slowdem use.......
[08:56] <holycow> NoobSauce, theonly way is to write a little bash script with some regex to do that ... i can't really help you write it, but thats how its done
[08:56] <PrimoTurbo> Does anyone know of a gnome menu editor? I want to hide some entries which I don't use under Applications. Thanks
[08:56] <roryy> NoobSauce: using command-line, something like this:     find . -type f -exec cp '{}' /the/place/you/want/to/put/them/ ';'
[08:56] <pedro> !lilo
[08:56] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pedro
[08:56] <holycow> PrimoTurbo, apt-get install alacarte
[08:57] <PrimoTurbo> thnx
[08:57] <holycow> go roryy !
[08:57] <holycow> lol
[08:57] <holycow> NoobSauce, but be warned, make sure you have a backup of everything
[08:57] <ronlybonly> what is the daemon that controls the modem?
[08:57] <pageyoo7> I get errors installing opera?
[08:57] <holycow> you could with the stroke or an enter key make them all magically 'dissapear'
[08:57] <holycow> hehe
[08:58] <PrimoTurbo> Already have it installed :) under Dapper all was needed is a right click
[08:58] <PrimoTurbo> under Accessories too, jeez
[08:58] <holycow> right click what?
[08:58] <holycow> right there you go
[08:59] <pageyoo7> I get errors installing opera?
[08:59] <pageyoo7> any ideas?
[08:59] <holycow> pageyoo7, post them on a pastebing site
[08:59] <holycow> !pastebin
[08:59] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:59] <pageyoo7> k
[08:59] <mneptok> pageyoo7: are you using the static .deb for Opera?
[08:59] <ronlybonly> intelikey: if i had the Dapper install cd and added it to my /etc/apt/sources.list, could I dist-upgrade from that?
[09:00] <mneptok> ronlybonly: the Dapper CD will have an upgrade feature.
[09:01] <intelikey> ronlybonly hmmm in theory.  but you would probably be better off to tar.gz your home and reinstall from the dapper cd then unzip that file    "assumes you have some place you could store it...
[09:02] <pageyoo7> mneptok: yes deb/static
[09:02] <rane_> Why does my bittornado donload max. 50kB/s, when in windows on utorrent I can dl max 100kB/s?
[09:02] <pageyoo7> missing libs
[09:02] <mneptok> pageyoo7: and you're using dpkg to install it?
[09:02] <NoobSauce> roryy thanks, it worked :)
[09:02] <pageyoo7> synaptic
[09:02] <NoobSauce> pageyoo7 it has a limit? you can remove the limit...
[09:03] <intelikey> ronlybonly i have two times not did dist-upgrades of the server install.  from hoary to dapper.  both went smothly.   it is not supported. and might really choak for a default install.
[09:03] <Cars_Suck> how do get totem to wok with with WMV files?
[09:03] <ronlybonly> mneptok: thanks. do you know if the espresso on the Dapper liveCD has the upgrade feature?
[09:03] <mneptok> pageyoo7: you may have better luck getting the .deb from Opera and using dpkg
[09:03] <intelikey> s/not/now/
[09:03] <mneptok> pageyoo7: Opera has some ... issues ... with their apt repo. or at least they did last time i spoke to someone at Opera.
[09:04] <pageyoo7> mneptok:  what is the "dpkg" command?
[09:04] <mneptok> pageyoo7: it's used to manipulate local .deb packages
[09:04] <PORDO> phil zimmerrmann just replied to my email. cool.
[09:04] <mneptok> (install, etc)
[09:04] <intelikey> holycow that work for ya ?
[09:05] <holycow> oh hell yeah bro :)
[09:05] <holycow> sweet! thx mate
[09:05] <intelikey> k just checking
[09:05] <ronlybonly> intelikey: i'll mess around with it after i burn the Dapper iso to cd.
[09:05] <__root___> ***WARNING*** potentially dumb question ahead
[09:05] <mneptok> pageyoo7: are you using Breezy?
[09:05] <holycow> it has been frustrating trying to explain to people that for some reason there are a bunch of people out there that cant dl the plug from macromedia
[09:05] <mabus> When is the official dapper release?
[09:05] <pageyoo7> mneptok: what is the opera repo?
[09:06] <holycow> i will post it somewhere as a mirror, appreciate the help
[09:06] <fidelos> exit
[09:06] <fidelos> oops
[09:06] <pageyoo7> not in synaptic at the mo
[09:06] <holycow> bbiab
[09:06] <Madpilot> pageyoo7, have you seen the Opera page on the Ubuntu wiki?
[09:06] <mneptok> pageyoo7: are you using Breezy?
[09:06] <pageyoo7> no mepis 6.0
[09:06] <mneptok> ah.
[09:06] <pageyoo7> mmm
[09:07] <Madpilot> pageyoo7, um, shouldn't you be in #mepis or something? This is #ubuntu...
[09:07] <pageyoo7> well it is more ubunto than debian
[09:07] <pageyoo7> uuuuu
[09:07] <pageyoo7> lol
[09:07] <pageyoo7> oops
[09:07] <mneptok> but Mepis is more Mepis than Ubuntu ;)
[09:08] <pageyoo7> mm bit tricky
[09:08] <mneptok> and Opera has no working package for anything higher than Mepis 3.3.1
[09:08] <pageyoo7> 3.4.3 was fine
[09:08] <pageyoo7> deb/static
[09:11] <pageyoo7>  Package xlib6g is not installed.
[09:11] <pageyoo7>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[09:11] <rane_> what port does bittorrent use?
[09:11] <pageyoo7> thats the prob,,opera
[09:11] <tripppy> rane_, the program will specify which one you can use
[09:12] <intelikey> in the ip's displayed here, what is the differance in i & n    rxample; i=live@69.146.117.54  [n=guanyu@cs302-24.spmodem.washington.edu
[09:12] <holycow> pageyoo7, hav e you searched for them? apt-cache search package?
[09:13] <intelikey> anybody know ?
[09:14] <pageyoo7> holycow: doing that now,,cheers
[09:14] <roryy> intelikey: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userequals
[09:14] <holycow> intelikey, i don't mate, never looked itup :/
[09:14] <ronlybonly> thanks for all of the help!
[09:14] <Madpilot> intelikey, i means not reg'd, n means reg'd w/ freenode
[09:14] <intelikey> k ty Madpilot
[09:15] <roryy> Madpilot: it's actually to do with identd
[09:17] <pedro> !xgl
[09:17] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:18] <pageyoo7> holycow: all installed,,opera 9,,cheers
[09:18] <HIGH-FREQ> uh...how do i fix this... sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May    6 11:52:24  2006  .....  my laptop time is fine to date and time....but i keep getting this sudo command error
[09:18] <holycow> pageyoo7, no probs, apt is really great that way
[09:18] <pageyoo7> very helpfull forum
[09:19] <roryy> HIGH-FREQ: open a new terminal and use sudo there
[09:19] <HIGH-FREQ> k
[09:20] <HIGH-FREQ> roryy: nope...still says it
[09:20] <intelikey> anyone want to see if they can trubble shoot dpkg ?
[09:20] <roryy> HIGH-FREQ: hrm. open a new terminal without closing the last one
[09:20] <HIGH-FREQ> i closed out terminal and then opened another terminal and still says that timestamp issue
[09:20] <HIGH-FREQ> ok lemme try that then..leave this one open
[09:21] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  dpkg-reconfigure dpkg
[09:21] <intelikey> dpkg: configuration error: unknown option log: Success
[09:21] <intelikey>  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: dpkg is not installed
[09:21] <HIGH-FREQ> ok it worked
[09:22] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  which dpkg-reconfigure
[09:22] <dli> intelikey, dpkg is within the apt package?
[09:22] <intelikey>  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure
[09:22] <intelikey> dli apt uses dpkg,  or should i say apt is a frontend to dpkg
[09:23] <dli> intelikey, apt-file search `which dpkg`
[09:23] <intelikey> i don't think apt-file is installed.  me see
[09:24] <intelikey> no it's not
[09:24] <firebird619> Is there a command I can run in Terminal or something else I can do to reset the volume settings? After installing GnomeRadio, tvtime and gradio and GnomeRadio have horrible sound, full of static and very loud. The sound used to be great.
[09:24] <dli> firebird619, alsamixer
[09:25] <intelikey> dli well apt-get looks like it may install apt-file .....  i'll tell ya if it errors out
[09:26] <intelikey> yep   Preconfiguring packages ...
[09:26] <intelikey> dpkg: configuration error: unknown option log: Success
[09:26] <intelikey> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[09:26] <firebird619> dli: ok, I have alsamixer up, do you have any recommendations on where to set each setting? The sound from tvtime and GnomeRadio are terrible now. What would GnomeRadio have changed to make the sound this way?
[09:26] <dli> intelikey, boot livecd, install the apt package to the hdd (with chroot)
[09:27] <dli> firebird619, I don't know tv
[09:27] <intelikey> chroot and apt will use the currently hosed apps   no ?
[09:27] <firebird619> dli: ok, Thanks
[09:28] <intelikey> maybe i can copy over the needed files.....
[09:28] <dli> intelikey, I think apt can reconstruct the database (hopefully)
[09:28] <firebird619> Does anyone know what GnomeRadio might have changed in regards to sound that would make it sound horrible, full of static, etc.
[09:29] <dli> intelikey, no, installing the package
[09:30] <tab> um, how do tou run a .run file i've found out you have to type sh file.run somewhere
[09:32] <AlmtyBob> I think I want to use XFS so I can run MythTV, do I need to do anything special at the setup prompt or will it prompt me for a filesystem?
[09:32] <mneptok> tab: "chmod +x filename.run" and then "./filename.run" using sudo where appropriate
[09:32] <tab>  um, how do tou run a .run file. I've found out you have to type sh file.run somewhere, but where?
[09:32] <rane_> whats the best torrent client
[09:33] <mneptok> AlmtyBob: the Ubuntu installer allows you to format new partitions as XFS
[09:33] <mneptok> rane_: i like Azureus
[09:33] <AlmtyBob> cool thanks
[09:33] <AlmtyBob> any downsides to XFS?
[09:33] <intelikey> tab in the terminal
[09:34] <mneptok> fewer diagnostic/repair/etc choices
[09:34] <chunderbunny> It's unsupported in a lot of LiveCDs...
[09:34] <AlmtyBob> oh ouch
[09:34] <AlmtyBob> how about JFS?
[09:34] <mneptok> same
[09:34] <AlmtyBob> hmm
[09:35] <AlmtyBob> k, well how about one drive as XFS and the others as whatever?
[09:35] <chunderbunny> Yeah, ext and reiser are two most popular filesystems by far.
[09:35] <mneptok> ext2/3 have a larger software ecosystem around them, by far
[09:35] <AlmtyBob> so I could make my main drive ext and my TV Drive JFS?
[09:35] <mneptok> AlmtyBob: you could just create an XFS partition for MythTV to use.
[09:35] <chunderbunny> Sure, that would work.
[09:35] <PrimoTurbo> I have a problem, Azureus just threw a Error pop up at me which I cannot close/hide
[09:35] <farous> hi i have 3 pc on a LAN all sharing the net using a router. Can I put a cap on the transfer rate (download/upload) of one of the computers through the network configuration or by any other mean?
[09:35] <AlmtyBob> cool
[09:35] <AlmtyBob> I have a 250 gig drive that should be perfect
[09:35] <tab> how do you start terminal? (sorry for being so stupid but this is  my first time using other systems than windows)
[09:35] <PrimoTurbo> I cannot seem to press the hide button anyway to remove it?
[09:36] <PrimoTurbo> Closing Azureus doesn't even work and it's really annoying
[09:36] <AlmtyBob> the ubuntu installer takes care of swap partitions and all that by itself right?
[09:36] <mneptok> tab: Applications > Accessories . Terminal
[09:36] <chunderbunny> If you're wanting to use a funky partition layout then you will ahve to do your own swap partitionj
[09:36] <PrimoTurbo> Is there some type of a window kill command or something?
[09:36] <farous> PrimoTurbo: azureus is java based. if you do not have anyother application using java you can just kill java
[09:37] <PrimoTurbo> or a way to target a window
[09:37] <mneptok> PrimoTurbo: quit Azureus from the menu item, then ps for any lingering Azureus processes
[09:37] <AlmtyBob> don't mind the questions, haven't installed a linux distro in 10 years
[09:37] <PrimoTurbo> what do u mean by ps?
[09:37] <mneptok> ps aux | grep azureus
[09:37] <AlmtyBob> PrimoTurbo: I've been reading this: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html
[09:37] <AlmtyBob> might help you
[09:38] <intelikey> PrimoTurbo twm has one... fluxbox has one.... bb & kde.   does gah'nomey not have one
[09:38] <PrimoTurbo> I cannot read anything a huge chunk of my screen is blocked by this dumb pop up at the bottom right
[09:38] <intelikey> oh command line     hehhe  sudo killall azureus
[09:39] <mneptok> PrimoTurbo: click that message window
[09:39] <PrimoTurbo> can't click
[09:39] <mneptok> PrimoTurbo: it's a modal dialog. clicking it removes it
[09:39] <PrimoTurbo> it won't click, on ide
[09:39] <AlmtyBob> I found an awesome oldschool PCI vid card in my closet for my new server
[09:39] <AlmtyBob> since it's going to be headless
[09:39] <farous> PrimoTurbo: press alt and move the window with the mouse
[09:39] <PrimoTurbo> doesn't work is what I'm saying, don't u think I wouldn't try it?
[09:39] <sanych_laptop> Guys, I have just installed balsa via synaptic - how can I add shortcut into Top Menu "Applications"?
[09:39] <PrimoTurbo> doesn't work either
[09:39] <AlmtyBob> any special considerations or apps I should get for using a headless box in my closet?
[09:39] <PrimoTurbo> alt doesn't work either
[09:40] <mneptok> PrimoTurbo: so kill off processes
[09:40] <farous> PrimoTurbo: you can type top in a terminal to see what process is hogging your pc
[09:40] <PrimoTurbo> killing java worked
[09:40] <mneptok> farous: but that window might not be using any CPU
[09:40] <MintyXP> ty
[09:40] <farous> if you do not have any other java program you can also type killall java
[09:40] <Wirwing> Hi, can somebody help me
[09:41] <firebird619> Does anyone know what GnomeRadio might change regarding sound when its installed that makes tvtime, gradio, GnomeRadio, or anything else to do with the TV Tuner card to sound horrible and be full of static.
[09:41] <Wirwing> i have my resolution screen in ubuntu at 1028*760.... something like that
[09:41] <farous> mneptok: i thought his pc might be hogged that is why the slow responce but nevertheless it is working for him now
[09:41] <Wirwing> but when i runned the xp partition (ntfs), the resolution at ubuntu changed to 600*400 or 800*600 res :S
[09:42] <Wirwing> how i can change de screen resolution
[09:42] <PORDO> any easy way would be to right-click on your desktop.
[09:42] <PORDO> i believe that gives you screen options.
[09:42] <PORDO> in any case, go to your preferences menu and look under screens i believe.
[09:43] <intelikey> system > admin > screen-rez
[09:43] <andrea18> how can i play mp3 file?
[09:43] <intelikey> or is it perfs ?
[09:43] <dli> andrea18, ask ubotu about restricted formats
[09:43] <intelikey> !mp3
[09:43] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:44] <SL|warlock> hey guys
[09:44] <SL|warlock> whats the command for moving a dir/file ?
[09:44] <SL|warlock> to another dir ?
[09:44] <dli> SL|warlock, mv
[09:44] <intelikey> mv
[09:44] <intelikey> ma mv
[09:44] <SL|warlock> mv /home/bla/bla home/newdir
[09:44] <SL|warlock> ?
[09:44] <dli> SL|warlock, or use a GUI file manager
[09:44] <intelikey> man mv
[09:44] <SL|warlock> I use ubutnu server so :)
[09:44] <SL|warlock> whats the command exactly to move a dir to another dir?
[09:44] <SL|warlock> anyone, an example?
[09:45] <intelikey> man mv
[09:45] <dli> SL|warlock, "mv /path/to/blah1 /path/to/blah2"
[09:45] <SL|warlock> thanks
[09:45] <dli> SL|warlock, "man mv"
[09:45] <intelikey> SL|warlock if you are going to go commando. learn to use the man pages.
[09:45] <SL|warlock> how to close this man crap?
[09:46] <dli> intelikey, can you install apt via chroot?
[09:46] <intelikey> q
[09:46] <SL|warlock> thx
[09:46] <intelikey> dli i haven't rebooted to see.  i'm using that box atm
[09:46] <intelikey> SL|warlock maybe you should start with     man man
[09:47] <andrea18> is it possible if i will use other program, like xmms?can it play?
[09:47] <dli> intelikey, read this, http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debianproblem.htm
[09:48] <luke> when I try to start compiz or gnome-window-decorator it says "GTK Warning, cannot open display" Any ideas?
[09:49] <dli> luke, xgl is not for n00bs :(
[09:50] <intelikey> ummm hmmm
[09:50] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  dpkg --configure -a
[09:50] <intelikey> dpkg: configuration error: unknown option log: Success
[09:51] <newbi> hi. can anyone help me to install mp3 codecs for xmms?(and i'm a total newbie to linux, so go step by step ;-)
[09:51] <intelikey> i think i know what the problem is.
[09:51] <intelikey> !w32codecs
[09:51] <newbi> ok..  how do i do it?
[09:52] <intelikey> !tell newbi about w32codecs
[09:52] <dli> intelikey, do you need w32codecs for xmms?
[09:52] <Kennie> newbi : sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[09:52] <intelikey> you need them to play any w32 wncripted crap afik
[09:52] <tab> while installing a file it says that i must be root user, how can i be a root user?
[09:53] <dli> intelikey, not mp3
[09:53] <intelikey> mp3 not wincripted ?
[09:53] <newbi> thanxc
[09:53] <newbi> thanx, i'll give it a try ;-)
[09:53] <intelikey> !vlc
[09:53] <ubotu> somebody said vlc was a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[09:53] <intelikey> that'smy answer ^
[09:54] <luke> dli, ok ill uninstall it. how do i remove a symbolic link?
[09:54] <tab> while installing a file it says that i must be root user, how can i be a root user in ubuntu?
[09:54] <intelikey> !sudo
[09:54] <ubotu> sudo is probably a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:54] <dli> lucaas, to remove a link, you use "rm foo", it will only remove the link, not the real source
[09:55] <intelikey> without switches  >:] 
[09:55] <tab> thank you for your  help
[09:55] <luke> dli, if I dont want xgl, can i uninstall compiz?
[09:56] <dli> luke, yes
[09:56] <AlmtyBob> so what's LVM?  the install how-to I'm reading doesn't mention it
[09:56] <intelikey> !lvm
[09:56] <ubotu> lvm is probably (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[09:56] <dli> luke, remove all deb you installed (with --purge)
[09:56] <dli> luke, xgl is not complete yet
[09:56] <dli> luke, you'd better wait
[09:56] <intelikey> AlmtyBob maybe google would be better at answering that Q
[09:57] <intelikey> ok i'm caught up.  i'll go boot and see if i can reinstall dpkg
[09:57] <trmartos> jjj
[09:57] <newbuntie> what would be the best way to install flash 8? I'm using firefox.
[09:57] <PORDO> does anyone here use zfone...i need someone to test it with
[09:58] <dli> !flash
[09:58] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:58] <newbi> \away out getting some sun
[09:59] <trmartos> eeee
[09:59] <miphan> 5555
[10:00] <vmadmin> i have set up vmware server beta have a static ip on host want to diffrent satstic ip on guest is this possible?
[10:00] <SL|warlock> command to remove a mysql database?
[10:01] <SL|warlock> got it
[10:01] <vmadmin> DBO: what's new?
[10:04] <luke> dli, I removed the symbolic link of /etc/X11/X - now X wont start
[10:05] <newbuntie> ok, I asked earlier about flash, but the instructions on the wiki only talk about installing flash from repositories, which only have version 7, how do I install version 8?
[10:05] <dli> luke, you can find Xorg back
[10:06] <luke> ?
[10:06] <dli> luke, but there's a n00b way (I like the n00b way myself)
[10:06] <dli> luke, "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg"
[10:06] <luke> will I have to redo my xorg.conf?
[10:07] <dli> newbuntie, not sure it's in ubuntu or not
[10:07] <dli> luke, no
[10:07] <zorglu1> luke: you may back it up just in case
[10:07] <luke> thanks - done
[10:07] <dli> luke, you can keep your settings
[10:12] <Skeletonix> Hi .. today I rekompile new version of kernel ...in kernel source I have only only one video driver vesaframe bufer. Nothink for nvidia!! And If I reboot Pc in dmesg I see : [   52.123535]  nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[10:12] <Skeletonix> [   52.155495]  NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine was not called for 1 device(s).
[10:12] <Skeletonix> [   52.155523]  NVRM: This can occur when a driver such as rivafb or rivatv was
[10:12] <Skeletonix> [   52.155530]  NVRM: loaded and obtained ownership of the NVIDIA device(s).
[10:12] <Skeletonix> [   52.155550]  NVRM: Try unloading the rivafb (and/or the rivatv) kernel module
[10:12] <Skeletonix> [   52.155557]  NVRM: (or reconfigure your kernel without rivafb support), then
[10:12] <Skeletonix> [   52.155565]  NVRM: try loading the NVIDIA kernel module again.
[10:12] <Skeletonix> [   52.159303]  NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter probed!
[10:12] <Skeletonix> And geforce driver and framebufer doesn'work.... why? ...
[10:12] <Minty> hi
[10:12] <ranpha> hi ...what is the kernel version and HAL version of ubuntu 5.10?
[10:13] <zeeble> Minty: hello
[10:13] <Skeletonix> 5.10
[10:13] <Skeletonix> and the latest kernel..wait pleas
[10:15] <Skeletonix> linux-source 2.6.12-10.32
[10:16] <Minty> how do i check to see my kernel version ?
[10:16] <ranpha> and the HAL version is 5.10?
[10:16] <ranpha> uname -r minty
[10:16] <dli> Minty, uname -a
[10:16] <Skeletonix> yes
[10:16] <Skeletonix> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12 #1 Fri May 5 21:08:41 CEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:16] <ranpha> and how much of a diverence is it with debian?
[10:17] <Minty> 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic got it thannks
[10:17] <Skeletonix> I don't know :(
[10:17] <dli> ranpha, still quite debian, all debian tools still available
[10:17] <Minty> is that the best one for my amd turion64 ?
[10:18] <dli> Minty, the same, debian/ubuntu
[10:18] <dli> Minty, I think amd64 is already optimized
[10:18] <snail> Minty: amd64-generic is good
[10:18] <Minty> thanks
[10:18] <ranpha> mmm and how stable is it. I have trouble with sarge (too old for my computer and etch is still too new and in testing)
[10:19] <snail> Minty: if you want a completely bleeding edge system, get it set up right with the generic kernel and then recompile the kernel with even finer settings, but recompiling is a long process
[10:20] <dli> snail, 5 minutes
[10:20] <Minty> am a newbie so not for me yet .... only second day with ubuntu :)
[10:20] <snail> ranpha: use the liveCD. if the liveCD works on your computer, the install will
[10:21] <snail> dli: i meant, a lot os steps for a newbie to put their foot wrong, rather than long in time
[10:21] <luke> wow my pc runs SOOO much faster with nvidia drivers
[10:21] <dli> Minty, free software means freedom, you can compile your kernel, or use a pre-built one, up to you
[10:21] <NoobSauce> luke how are you determining that it runs faster?
[10:21] <Minty> yes thats why am trying it out, have a dual boot on a MSI portable
[10:21] <dli> snail, but you only does it once, then, you can use it for later upgrading
[10:21] <luke> NoobSauce: X renders faster
[10:21] <snail> dli: indeed
[10:22] <Minty> now have to learn how it works
[10:22] <dli> luke, yes, but I still hate nvidia, binary only driver
[10:22] <zcat> NoobSauce: things like video playing and 3d games will run _much_ smoother..
[10:22] <NoobSauce> anyone messed around with windows vpns before? I've connected to my network using pptp, but now what? how do I browse the folders?
[10:22] <Discipulus> anyone active?
[10:22] <mvalenzu> hi
[10:22] <dli> Minty, play with your desktop menu, and ask your questions you may have
[10:22] <Discipulus> hi
[10:22] <snail> Discipulus: active in what sense?
[10:22] <Discipulus> awake
[10:22] <Discipulus> then again this is a major channel
[10:22] <NoobSauce> zcat luke I meant did he compare glxgears values? I'm kinda curious how mine stacks up before/after... but glxgears didn't give any good info when I ran it
[10:22] <mvalenzu> what is the problem?
[10:23] <luke> what's a good benchmarking software for ubuntu?
[10:23] <snail> luke: for benchmarking what?
[10:23] <mvalenzu> 3d?
[10:23] <mvalenzu> hdd?
[10:23] <pavlix> hi people...
[10:23] <mvalenzu> mem?
[10:23] <luke> anything
[10:23] <mathieu_> i have a problem a problem with my laptop
[10:23] <pavlix> I'm new to ubuntu... using debian most times
[10:24] <mvalenzu> ubuntu is debian, but with a nice layer on top
[10:24] <zcat> I don't really look at benchmarks.. but with the nvidia drivers I get frames per second.. without them it's seconds per frame..
[10:24] <NoobSauce> luke for graphics cards supposedly glxgears is the standard benchmark
[10:24] <mathieu_> it is a averatec 3700 and uses a via unichrome video card
[10:24] <pavlix> mvalenzu: nice layer on top?
[10:24] <pavlix> :-)
[10:24] <mathieu_> when i try to use the accelerated driver all i get is a white screen
[10:24] <mvalenzu> I use debian for servers, ubuntu for workstations
[10:24] <luke> mvalenzu NoobSauce how about hdd/cpu/mem?
[10:24] <xinel> hey peeps im trying to disble eth, and i do it through system -> admin -> networking, but every time i restart my pc eth becomes active again. Any ideas as how i can de-activate it for good?
[10:24] <snail> luke: kernel recompile time is usually a pretty good benchmark
[10:24] <zcat> glxgears --iacknowledgethatthisisnotabenchmark  ?
[10:24] <NoobSauce> luke no idea, I just started messed with linux 2 weeks ago :)
[10:25] <mwright1nigh1> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-beta2-install-i386.iso   is there a live cd? or is this an all in one live and install cd like mepis?
[10:25] <mvalenzu> ubuntu redoes some packages, to be more friendy
[10:25] <luke> lol fair enough snail
[10:25] <dli> luke, try bonnie++  , for disks
[10:25] <mvalenzu> but is debian inside
[10:25] <snail> xinel: neuter it in /etc/networks
[10:25] <mvalenzu> where are you guys from?
[10:25] <pavlix> mvalenzu: I'm now using debian unstable...
[10:25] <snail> mvalenzu: ubuntu repackages every package
[10:25] <zelevw> spain
[10:26] <Minty> how do I 'show' my Hd on the bureau/desktop ?
[10:26] <hastesaver> mwright1nigh1, there are live cds on that page
[10:26] <dli> luke, I don't what it is, but benchmarking for sure, xfbsuite
[10:26] <xinel> snail: cheers
[10:26] <luke> thanks dli
[10:26] <mvalenzu> although ubuntu redoes every package, most of them are exactly the same as the debian packages
[10:26] <hastesaver> mwright1nigh1, http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ -- the ones marked "live" are live cds, the ones marked "install" are install cds :)
[10:26] <dli> luke, "sudo apt-cache search benchmark"
[10:26] <mwright1nigh1> there are no live cds
[10:27] <luke> wow - i never knew that function existed
[10:27] <hastesaver> mwright1nigh1, http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-beta2-live-i386.iso
[10:27] <pavlix> mvalenzu: Is there some branch with reguler package updates?
[10:27] <hastesaver> mwright1nigh1, what made you say "there are no live cds"??!
[10:27] <mwright1nigh1> ok i'm a dork, the terminology at the top is text mode
[10:27] <mwright1nigh1> cause I'm a dope.
[10:27] <mvalenzu> try apt-files also, it comes very handy when you need a special lib, or file
[10:27] <mwright1nigh1> I see it now
[10:27] <pavlix> mvalenzu: I mean when one doesn't want to use only releases
[10:27] <dli> luke, you should feel free in ubuntu, over 10,000 packages
[10:27] <mwright1nigh1> if I install it, can I update it, and get the latest gnome-vfs2 patches etc
[10:27] <zcat[1] > mwright1nigh1: Umm.. 'desktop' is live, 'install' is install..
[10:28] <hastesaver> mwright1nigh1, the "desktop cds" are the live cds :)
[10:28] <mwright1nigh1> yep I figured that out now
[10:28] <mwright1nigh1> I just hadn't scrolled down
[10:28] <blazemonger> question
[10:28] <mwright1nigh1> how much data transfers off the cd during a boot up of the live cd
[10:28] <blazemonger> in ubuntu my mouse cursor sometimes fades to all black
[10:28] <zcat[1] > sorry, it's 'desktop' and 'text-mode' -- who named there?!!
[10:28] <pavlix> I'd like something a bit live... getting new versions through time
[10:28] <mwright1nigh1> I am using a HP iLO to a remote DL380
[10:29] <blazemonger> think it might have something to do with my ati rage 128?
[10:29] <mvalenzu> very few megs
[10:29] <NoobSauce> anyone have experience connecting to a windows vpn in linux?
[10:30] <mvalenzu> first to run the bootstrap stuff (grub)
[10:30] <mvalenzu> then running the bzImage of the kernel that comes on the cd
[10:30] <hastesaver> pavlix, *everything* has regular package updates!
[10:30] <mvalenzu> after that, when X starts to run, you start reading some more
[10:30] <pavlix> hastesaver: everything?
[10:30] <hastesaver> pavlix, any release
[10:30] <pavlix> hastesaver: so I get new versions throughout the time using it?
[10:30] <xst>  My dapper beta2 has begun to power down my laptop harddisk if it has been unused for no more than a couple of seconds. All this spin up/down can't be healthy for the disk. How can I adjust this?
[10:30] <hastesaver> pavlix, yes
[10:31] <pavlix> unlike debian stable?
[10:31] <pavlix> and... more like debian testing?
[10:31] <hastesaver> pavlix, I thought you can update even in debian stable
[10:31] <xinel> time to restart and try
[10:31] <xored> which is the best way to log IPTABLES logs with syslog-ng into a specific file ?
[10:32] <pavlix> hastesaver: in debian stabe, there are only security updates
[10:32] <hastesaver> pavlix, apt-get dist-upgrade will update all packages to new versions...
[10:32] <Tyra> www.nextpicturez.com
[10:32] <pavlix> hastesaver: it keeps the same versions, only patched by debian's security team
[10:32] <NoobSauce> xst, believe it or not, that's the standard. and actually spinning up/down like that will save battery life too
[10:32] <hastesaver> pavlix, ok, just use enough proper repositories and you'll keep getting new versions
[10:33] <NoobSauce> xst, as far as reliability, this would probably be better for the disk in the long run
[10:33] <pavlix> hastesaver: if you add repos to stable, you also can...
[10:33] <blazemonger> i guess no one knows the minor bug im speaking of
[10:33] <hastesaver> pavlix, exactly, so what's the problem?
[10:33] <ranpha> with the live cd i can also install ubuntu?
[10:33] <pavlix> hastesaver: so you mean, without putting there repos.... do I get new versions?
[10:33] <blazemonger> in ubuntu my mouse cursor sometimes fades to all black
[10:33] <mwright1nigh1> It will be interesting to see if the HP virtual cdrom driver is supported
[10:33] <snail> pavlix: like testing, but the gcc version never changes
[10:33] <blazemonger> is there a fix ? or any other updates?
[10:33] <blazemonger> for xorg
[10:34] <mwright1nigh1> If not, I wouldn't mind giving one of the ubuntu developers  a login to one of my DL380s to fix (Ilo is web based)
[10:34] <hastesaver> pavlix, I think by default it has those repos (not universe and multiverse, but I think it *does* have updates, not just security ones..)
[10:34] <hastesaver> pavlix, look at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:34] <mwright1nigh1> Should have my beta2 live cd in 30 mins
[10:34] <snail> blazemonger: i've never seen it. have you googled for it?
[10:34] <blazemonger> yah
[10:34] <mwright1nigh1> if it's the amd64 kernel will it work on EM64T?
[10:35] <blazemonger> i googled it i did the reccomended fix it stil didnt work
[10:35] <blazemonger> do you thinkit could be my ati rage 120?
[10:35] <dli> mwright1nigh1, I think yes
[10:35] <mwright1nigh1> I have Dual Xeon 3.6Ghz
[10:35] <snail> blazemonger: url?
[10:35] <pavlix> hastesaver: why can't i chage gcc version?
[10:35] <mwright1nigh1> ok cool, I'll test it, -- it needs to work on HP hardware, then I can recommend my boss that we support it (HP that is)
[10:35] <snail> mwright1nigh1: should do. try the live cd first to check
[10:35] <hastesaver> pavlix, to what?
[10:35] <dli> mwright1nigh1, dual core xeon or just smp?
[10:35] <ranpha> with the live cd i can also install ubuntu?
[10:36] <blazemonger> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6345.html
[10:36] <mwright1nigh1> dual xeon with HT so 4 logical cpus 2 real ones
[10:36] <hastesaver> pavlix, I have gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 20050808
[10:36] <snail> pavlix: because large increments in the gcc version chnage the calling conventions, and the have to recompile _everything_
[10:36] <mwright1nigh1> ie two seperate cpus in 2x sockets
[10:36] <dli> hastesaver, if it were dual core each, you got 8
[10:36] <blazemonger> another thing is in the themes in gnome not all the icon themes work properly
[10:36] <xst> NoobSauce: But spinning up/down is generally hard for the disk. And dooing it very frequently I guess would wear down the disk.
[10:36] <hastesaver> dli, I suppose that was for mwright1nigh1
[10:36] <mwright1nigh1> I am going to install FC5 on this box, just need to use this ubuntu cd as a rescue cd, cause stupid fedora/RHEL the HP scsi virtual cd won't work properly in rescue mode
[10:37] <dli> hastesaver, sorry :(
[10:37] <mwright1nigh1> I am planning on migrating everything to ubuntu though
[10:37] <blazemonger> snail, :no fix?
[10:37] <blazemonger> :(
[10:37] <mwright1nigh1> As ubuntu is much more responsive and community based that RHEL
[10:37] <xst> The disk spindown is also done even if the power plug is in.
[10:37] <dli> mwright1nigh1, I still want to say, fc or RH just sucks, avoid it, if yo can
[10:38] <offby1> trouble getting mail working.
[10:38] <mwright1nigh1> I have built dozens of FC/RHEL boxes
[10:38] <blazemonger> as for fedora core theres things that will compile in that butwont compile in other distros
[10:38] <offby1> I want to receive mail with fetchmail ... so I installed exim.
[10:38] <NoobSauce> xst this is the standard in windows... and it's the standard for most linux... although the reliability could possibly be affected by it, I doubt it's a serious problem, otherwise people would have spoken up about it
[10:38] <pavlix> hastesaver: so what's the difference between using a new release and an older... if I upgrade all the time
[10:38] <blazemonger> i thought about installing fedora core
[10:38] <mwright1nigh1> it actually is easier in some ways to debian / ubuntu .. however ubuntu is narrowing the gap
[10:38] <offby1> exim refused to start, so I installed xinetd.
[10:38] <AlmtyBob> should I have ACPI disabled? it's hanging after the first install reboot right after it assigns an IRQ to acpi
[10:38] <blazemonger> just because of making compilng packages   a bit easier
[10:38] <offby1> however nothing's listening on port 25 on localhost :-(
[10:38] <snail> blazemonger: I'm really not sure. follow up that discussion with your problem and that the fix doesn't solve the problem for you
[10:39] <hastesaver> pavlix, there may be things in the repos for the newer release that aren't there in the repos for the old one... for example, gcc usually doesn't change
[10:39] <mwright1nigh1> dli: I am particularly keen on edubuntu and the work they're doing with LTSP.  I have a plan to convert every community group and government state school in Australia to  LTSP, probably running ubuntu/edubuntu
[10:39] <blazemonger> thing is in dapper and every other distro ive tried i dont have that problem
[10:39] <hastesaver> pavlix, of course, you can upgrade to the new release by just changing the repos and doing a dist-upgrade as usual
[10:39] <dli> mwright1nigh1, I'm not saying ubuntu is good, but fc is just too bad
[10:40] <mwright1nigh1> I need quite a few desktop problems fixed first.  and one of the ubuntu devellopers already fixed one of the big problems with nautilus's treatment of move in regards to directories with setgid... g+s
[10:40] <snail> mwright1nigh1: you're aware of http://ask-oss.mq.edu.au/
[10:40] <pavlix> hastesaver: And does it usually proceed?
[10:40] <hastesaver> pavlix, for most apps, the version is the same across releases, I think. Someone correct me if I'm wrong
[10:41] <blazemonger> no one seems to have a answer snail
[10:41] <mwright1nigh1> I think ubuntu is good.  I would like to convince ubuntu, to send a couple of developers to spend a week each at my 5 sites, and note down all the usability problems then fix them
[10:41] <blazemonger> your mouse cursor doesnt change colors and stuff on you?
[10:41] <blazemonger> must be the ati drivers?
[10:41] <pavlix> hastesaver... last time I upgraded during work.... within unstable... and it was upgrading to xorg7... crashed, a bit ;-)
[10:41] <mwright1nigh1> I need to convert 2 of the sites to ubuntu from FC5 though
[10:41] <blazemonger> how do i compile apache2?
[10:41] <blazemonger> and add in mysql
[10:41] <blazemonger> (latest version)
[10:41] <hastesaver> pavlix, oh... I upgraded to breezy from hoary without any trouble
[10:42] <hastesaver> pavlix, but I think if you've added extra repos (backports, etc), upgrading is less likely to succeed
[10:42] <snail> blazemonger: you do you need to compile it? why not just install it?
[10:42] <pavlix> hastesaver: no extra repos ;-) but unstable... and the bad thing was... that it let me upgrade while running X ;-)
[10:43] <blazemonger> dependencies
[10:43] <blazemonger> I *HATE$* dependencies
[10:43] <snail> hastesaver: the way to upgrade with multiple repositories is typically to remove them and then add them back in after the upgrade
[10:43] <blazemonger> like all the extra b.s. that it installed ya kno
[10:43] <blazemonger> i like things minimal
[10:43] <hastesaver> blazemonger, then install only the minimal amount of stuff you want
[10:43] <blazemonger> thing is when i installed php5 it uninstalled something
[10:43] <snail> blazemonger: which dependencies of apache do you not want to install?
[10:44] <BigBrother_> !respitories
[10:44] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BigBrother_
[10:44] <hastesaver> blazemonger, some packages are meta-packages provided precisely to have a lot of dependencies and pull in everything one might need
[10:44] <BigBrother_> Anyone know the site for official repitories?
[10:44] <pavlix> hastesaver: is there a netinstall cd image... I'd really like to install the current packages... and not the release ones and then upgrade
[10:44] <zorglu1> !repositories
[10:44] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:44] <schizoschaf> hi
[10:45] <dli> BigBrother_,  ask ubotu about easy source
[10:45] <sleeper> hi guys! i have a problem with my tv card in Xorg and Xgl. can anyone help?
[10:45] <schizoschaf> ist there a nice worldclock application?
[10:45] <zorglu1> BigBrother_: you made a speeling mistake
[10:45] <BigBrother_> Thanks
[10:45] <snail> sleeper: we can't help if you don't tell us what the problem is. btw: have you googled for help on it first?
[10:46] <sleeper> yes i have, and i can't find any solutions
[10:46] <d> hey guys i have a problem with a radeon 9200
[10:46] <sleeper> the problem in Xorg is that i have interferences in the middle of screen
[10:46] <d> anyone can help me?
[10:46] <blazemonger> anothert hing when i ru n prboom it freezes the computer
[10:46] <schizoschaf> d i have a radeon 9250
[10:46] <blazemonger> can someone install prboom and see ifi t crashes their machine
[10:47] <schizoschaf> d what seems to be your problem?
[10:47] <pavlix> okay.... let's try it ;-)
[10:47] <hastesaver> pavlix, sorry, I didn't understand...
[10:47] <d> its on my other pc and then the screen is all weird at startup
[10:47] <d> i dont see anything
[10:47] <snail> sleeper: sounds like you've got the monitor set to a freq and resolution that isn't quite working
[10:47] <kapsul> elo all
[10:47] <Sukh> hi
[10:47] <pavlix> hastesaver... I mean a minimal CD to install from the internet
[10:47] <d> how do u change that since i can't see anything?
[10:48] <d> i can log in in recovery mode though
[10:48] <AlmtyBob> hmm, I got an ASUS Nforce chipset board with a PCI vid card and a hauppauge TV tuner only.  I did a standard 64bit install and when it rebooted it hangs after assigning ACPI an IRQ, what do I need to do?
[10:48] <sleeper> snail: i tried different resolutions and refresh rates. but it's the same... currently i'm using 1024x768 with 60hz
[10:48] <vishy> hi all
[10:48] <hastesaver> pavlix, do you just mean the release cd? http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[10:48] <pavlix> nono
[10:48] <vishy> can anyone tell me when is dapper drake likey to be released ?
[10:49] <schizoschaf> d have you installed the proprietary ATI driver?
[10:49] <Minty> hah got google talk working :)
[10:49] <pavlix> hastesaver: I mean a no-more-than-100mb instal cd
[10:49] <d> no i didn't
[10:49] <d> i dunno how to install it
[10:49] <snail> sleeper: sorry, don't know
[10:49] <d> im quite new to linux
[10:49] <pavlix> Minty: nice
[10:49] <pavlix> just an offtopic question... who of you uses jabber?
[10:49] <sleeper> snail: can you direct me to someone who can help me?
[10:49] <Minty> no really complicated but its a  nice start
[10:50] <Minty> How do a get my HD to show up on the bureau so that I can into the win partion ?
[10:50] <hastesaver> pavlix, oh, so you don't already have ubuntu then?
[10:50] <pavlix> hastesaver: no, I don't
[10:50] <pavlix> hastesaver: I'm on debian unstable
[10:51] <serp> what's the url to there site where can search for contents of packages?
[10:51] <dli> serp, packages.ubuntu.com
[10:52] <serp> thanks
[10:52] <hastesaver> pavlix, well shipit sends you free cds if you want
[10:53] <d> any1 knows if i change the xorg.conf will solve my radeon 9200 problem?
[10:53] <pavlix> hastesaver: i don't want a free cd :-) I just like the possibility of installing from the internet... like I do with debian
[10:53] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, you could try some different kernel boot options or fiddle around with BIOS settings
[10:53] <d> sry got disc
[10:53] <blazemonger> when are all the bugs going to be dealt with in ubuntu?
[10:54] <blazemonger> i've spotted at least 5 bugs in the past 5 minutes
[10:54] <dli> pavlix, I'm interested in netinstall for ubuntu
[10:54] <d> yeah i was aksing if any1 knows if i cahnge the xorg.conf will solve my radeon 9200 problem?
[10:54] <rem_> is there a way to kill a process that doesnt get killed with kill -9 (or-15) pid .. ?
[10:54] <d> someone help me plz
[10:55] <dli> rem_, zombie?
[10:55] <pavlix> dli: good
[10:55] <AlmtyBob> yah I've been fiddling with BIOS options
[10:55] <d> i can't seen anything after everything loads
[10:55] <AlmtyBob> no luck so far
[10:55] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, it could be a buggy ACPI bios that is causing it to not assign IRQs properly
[10:55] <hastesaver> wow, a LinusTorvalds. From Finland, too :)
[10:55] <rem_> i dont think so..how can I tell ... =
[10:55] <dli> d> someone help me plz, your nick makes it difficult to talk to you
[10:55] <rem_> ?
[10:55] <pavlix> again... is any of you using jabber?
[10:55] <d> ah k
[10:55] <d> sry
[10:55] <d> i'll cahnge it
[10:55] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, try adding acpi=off to the kernel boot options in grub
[10:55] <pavlix> just like to know... I recently switched from icq
[10:55] <hastesaver> pavlix, I'm using Google Talk on Gaim, which is a jabber protocol...
[10:56] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, there are quite a few kernel boot options you could try really
[10:56] <Minty> I just configed jabber to access my ggole talk
[10:56] <pavlix> hastesaver: which is Jabber ;-) so... yes
[10:56] <rem_> root     14266     1  0 May05 ?        00:00:00 mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/
[10:56] <rem_> cant kjill that
[10:56] <dli> hastesaver, with voice/video?
[10:56] <pavlix> so... hastesaver and Minty
[10:56] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, if things seem impossible, you can resort to switching around the position of the cards in the PCI slots, but I would do that as a last resort
[10:56] <Minty> no voice
[10:56] <hastesaver> dli, no, regular gaim (no vv)
[10:57] <pavlix> i don't use voice either, using Psi client
[10:57] <disintrouble> i can't seen anything after everything loads
[10:57] <martoss> hi there
[10:57] <Minty> Pavliz check googletalk site they explain it there
[10:57] <disintrouble> i have a radeon 9200
[10:57] <pavlix> Minty: what do they explain?
[10:57] <dli> disintrouble, followed the ati howto?
[10:57] <martoss> i get a (EE) LoadModule: Module libxtrap does not have a libxtrapModuleData data object. in my Xorg.log
[10:57] <Minty> pavlix http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html
[10:57] <disintrouble> nopes
[10:57] <hastesaver> pavlix, http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24074
[10:57] <pavlix> btw.. I'm not on google but on jabber.cz
[10:57] <disintrouble> where do u get that?
[10:58] <disintrouble> in ati.com?
[10:58] <pavlix> Minty: but anyway... thanks
[10:58] <martoss> shall I file a bug or is there any solution?
[10:58] <dli> !ati
[10:58] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:58] <Minty> your welcome
[10:58] <hastesaver> pavlix, but most of it should apply, I guess (with the necessary changes)
[10:58] <disintrouble> thanks
[10:58] <pavlix> hastesaver: I'm alright with jabber ;-) I just wanted to know about you, ubuntu people
[10:59] <hastesaver> pavlix, oh, sorry :)
[10:59] <AlmtyBob> mustard5: that means reinstalling right?
[10:59] <blazemonger> argh myu mouse3 cursor changed to all black out of nowhere
[10:59] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, no
[10:59] <blazemonger> no one has had that problem?
[10:59] <AlmtyBob> mustard5: the bios doesn't appear to even try and load an OS
[10:59] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, basically you just add these 'kernel options' to then end of your GRUB menu options
[10:59] <AlmtyBob> it passes post, assigns IRQs, and hangs
[10:59] <pavlix> hastesaver: no, it's alright, I didn't say it well
[11:00] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, ah!
[11:00] <blazemonger> anyone want to install prboom
[11:00] <AlmtyBob> no boot loader
[11:00] <AlmtyBob> err, I didn't install any boot loader
[11:00] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, so its a hardware issue unrelated to the operating system
[11:00] <pavlix> hastesaver: Minty... you can see me sometimes in a groupchat at jabber@conference.jabber.org
[11:00] <AlmtyBob> hmph
[11:01] <AlmtyBob> let me see if booting from the CD changes anything
[11:01] <dushy> hello all...
[11:01] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, did this happen when you put a new PCI card in?
[11:01] <dushy> any one up for a chat?
[11:01] <dushy> hope this is a chat room :D
[11:01] <darkhunter^> hey guys, my dapper is dont shutdown... say "Will now halt" and black screen of death :D
[11:01] <snail> sleeper: not sure. put a report on the forums and maybe play with the optoins in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ?
[11:01] <blazemonger> me dushy
[11:01] <AlmtyBob> mustard5: no changes
[11:02] <dushy> blazemonger? where u from?
[11:02] <AlmtyBob> booted to cd, installed ubuntu, it rebooted when it needed to, then hung
[11:02] <skysong> s/j #evasion
[11:02] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, very strange really..the fact that its not even getting to GRUB bootloader
[11:02] <AlmtyBob> it boots to cd just fine
[11:02] <skysong> sorry
[11:02] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, hmmmm ok
[11:02] <dushy> ALMTYBOB.. must be cd problem or RAM
[11:03] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, does the screen blank after the IRQ's are assigned?
[11:03] <disintrouble> thanks all for ur help
[11:03] <AlmtyBob> no
[11:03] <AlmtyBob> just stays black
[11:03] <AlmtyBob> looks like an ACPI prob but I disabled it and it still hangs
[11:03] <pavlix> if Gaim supports groupchat
[11:03] <blazemonger> dushy, :USA
[11:04] <dushy> ALMTYBOB.. i too tried to install with my 128 mb ram but same problemm ... now i am having 256mb.. so its working great
[11:04] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, the fact that it was working before makes it a mystery..have you moved the computer at all? Do you think one of the cards might not be seated properly in the slot?
[11:04] <AlmtyBob> I have a gig 8)
[11:04] <AlmtyBob> running long boot now
[11:04] <dushy> BLAZEMONGER... thats cool. what u do there?
[11:04] <AlmtyBob> ram check is good according to the bios mem test
[11:04] <dushy> GIG?? oh my god...
[11:04] <dushy> then it must be CD problem?
[11:05] <AlmtyBob> it boots
[11:05] <AlmtyBob> oh wait
[11:05] <AlmtyBob> wtf
[11:05] <AlmtyBob> nm, I still had it set to boot from CD
[11:05] <blazemonger> its boring
[11:05] <dushy> whats the matter?
[11:05] <Nameeater> this isnt a chat channel, it is a support channel for ubuntu, if you would like to chat #ubuntu-offtopic is the place to be
[11:05] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, heh
[11:05] <dli> AlmtyBob, still try memtest86, if you do experience some problems
[11:05] <AlmtyBob> that wasn't the problem though
[11:05] <AlmtyBob> I'm talking about just this test
[11:05] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, so what is happening?
[11:05] <AlmtyBob> and the stick of ram is brand new corsair
[11:05] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, k
[11:05] <AlmtyBob> I know tha tsome hardware comes defective
[11:05] <blazemonger> why does prboom freeze my machine?
[11:05] <dushy> BLAZEMONGER... why so.. usa is always a dream for me :))
[11:06] <AlmtyBob> but still seems odd it'd boot to CD and install with no issues but freeze when trying to boot from hdd
[11:06] <blazemonger> dushy, : cuz of duBYA
[11:06] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, it does seem odd..I'm wondering whether GRUB is failing but leaving the screen blank
[11:06] <jenda> How can I assing the "xscreensaver-command -activate" to a keybinding? I'd like the 0xA2 key to do that, but when I put that in the config. editor (as command keybinding #2) and the command as command #2, it does'nt do anything.
[11:06] <dushy> ALMTYBOB.. can u tell me exactly what part u getting stuck?
[11:06] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, normally if GRUB fails you see something though..a flashing cursor at least
[11:07] <AlmtyBob> oh, I get a flashing cursor actually 8)
[11:07] <dushy> oh ok BLAZEMONGER.. u got a strange nic by the way :P
[11:07] <AlmtyBob> shit, maybe I should try  hitting enter or smth
[11:07] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, k..well maybe the GRUB install failed
[11:07] <snail> AlmtyBob: we have corsair staicks here that successfull USB boot
[11:07] <caustictwin> what is the screen called between the gdm and background called
[11:07] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, hitting enter might work..hehe..you never know :)
[11:07] <dushy> ALMTYBOB? .. right now?
[11:07] <caustictwin> the one that shows all the programs and modules being loaded?
[11:07] <jenda> Or do I have to restart metacity for that?
[11:07] <AlmtyBob> nope, enter doesn't work
[11:07] <AlmtyBob> I'll take a pic
[11:08] <snail> caustictwin: the console
[11:08] <zcat[1] > caustictwin: splash
[11:08] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, k
[11:08] <AlmtyBob> yay camera out of batteries!
[11:08] <darkhunter^> my dapper is dont shutdown... say "Will now halt" and black screen of death... Any idea?
[11:08] <dushy> very critical problem.. sorry i am still new to this UBUNTU LINUX ;)
[11:08] <blazemonger> dushy, :can you install the prboom package from the repositories and tell me if it crashes your box?
[11:08] <blazemonger> please
[11:08] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, I think you could try reinstalling grub
[11:08] <jenda> How do I assign keybindings to commands?
[11:08] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, or do the install again?
[11:09] <Minty> pavliv cant suss out how to join group channel
[11:09] <dushy> BLAZEMONGER... i am not sure.. coz i am very new to LINux
[11:09] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, its probably easier to reinstall than explain how to reinstall grub :)
[11:09] <AlmtyBob> I'll reinstall 8/
[11:09] <blazemonger> use synaptic
[11:09] <speedie> hey all
[11:09] <blazemonger> and do a search for prboom
[11:09] <AlmtyBob> could it be an issue with amd64?
[11:09] <blazemonger> and see if it crashes your box
[11:09] <dushy> HI SPEEDIE
[11:09] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, I don't know..what installer did you use?
[11:09] <blazemonger> i wanna see if it's my system or if the package is buggy
[11:09] <pavlix> minty... in which client?
[11:09] <caustictwin> I mean, like, after i enter my login:password there is a brown screen that shows me what is being loaded - nautilus, gnome, whatever
[11:09] <speedie> I want to run a remote XServer on my Mac, to connect to my ubuntu box. Anyone know where I could find some info on doing that?
[11:10] <AlmtyBob> the latest AMD64 install
[11:10] <AlmtyBob> from ubuntu.com
[11:10] <caustictwin> I want to change that screens color
[11:10] <snail> caustictwin splash screen?
[11:10] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, Dapper Drake or Breezy Badger?
[11:10] <Minty> gnaim
[11:10] <speedie> I tried SSHing into my linux box, from X11 on the Mac, setting my DISPLAY env. and running an application, but it says can't open display
[11:10] <dushy> is this some kinda help desk? coz all are speaking technical
[11:10] <caustictwin> splash screen is when you first start up the computer, right?  this is after login
[11:10] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, what version no.?
[11:10] <Nameeater> speedie: you could use something like tightvnc if that has a mac client version
[11:10] <Morrowyn> speedy, enable x11 forwarding on your sshd
[11:10] <martoss> speedie: either use ssh tunnel feature for X applications
[11:10] <martoss> or vnc
[11:11] <martoss> :-)
[11:11] <Nameeater> dushy: this is the ubuntu help channel :) chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:11] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, it shouldnt really be a problem though
[11:11] <speedie> Morrowyn: where do I enable that?
[11:11] <Morrowyn> in the sshd_config
[11:11] <AlmtyBob> yah but worth a try with a different ver
[11:11] <Morrowyn> or ssh_config
[11:11] <dushy> any one guide me where can i find the casual chat?? :P
[11:11] <hastesaver> dushy, #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:11] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, 64bit will run with the 64bit installer and the x86 installer
[11:11] <speedie> Morrowyn: on the linux box, or the Mac?
[11:11] <dushy> i am here for the first time and ... dont know much options in here.
[11:11] <hastesaver> pavlix, what exactly does groupchat mean? I can join "rooms" or "conferences" (or whatever they're called) in Yahoo, for example, on Gaim
[11:11] <Morrowyn> on the mac
[11:12] <Morrowyn> since you wanna have the mac as server right
[11:12] <hastesaver> dushy, do you need help?
[11:12] <mustard5> dushy, #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:12] <speedie> Morrowyn: the linux box is where the applications reside, but I want to display them on the Mac
[11:12] <dushy> hastesaver?.. well i just came to have a general chat :)
[11:12] <Morrowyn> aha
[11:12] <Morrowyn> then on the linux box
[11:12] <Morrowyn> :)
[11:12] <pavlix> hastesaver: that's exactly that.... conference/room/groupchat
[11:12] <hastesaver> dushy, well then, you can have general chat on #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[11:12] <pavlix> hastesaver: and the feature is called groupchat, too
[11:13] <dushy> how to go in there? :)
[11:13] <hastesaver> pavlix, works on Gaim (at least, on Yahoo)
[11:13] <hastesaver> dushy, "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[11:13] <pavlix> okay... you can try on jabber
[11:13] <mustard5> dushy, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:13] <animato> hello,  i'm having troubles with my display, i set power managment to put the display to sleep in one minute, but it won't work!
[11:13] <Morrowyn> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164837  speedy
[11:14] <pavlix> hastesaver: you can try room: jabber and server: conference.jabber.org
[11:14] <serp> how do I disable all ubuntu sounds?
[11:14] <dushy> yep thanks.. i am now in there :))
[11:14] <serp> like the one when I click in menu etc
[11:14] <pavlix> hastesaver: it's nearly empty now... looks like everyone's enjoying good weather
[11:14] <animato> serp --> system --> sounds - > there's an option to disable all sounds
[11:14] <animato> tick off the "system sounds"
[11:14] <AlmtyBob> hey does this mean something...if after it hangs I cntrl-alt-del right away, it reboots, if I wait a while I have hit control-alt-delete twice
[11:15] <serp> ah got it thanks animato
[11:15] <dushy> i got a small doubt...
[11:15] <Minty> Pavliw ho do you get in using gnaim, do I have to fill in the salon, password deatisl etc
[11:15] <speedie> Morrowyn: X11 forwarding is already set
[11:15] <Minty> conference.jabber.org
[11:15] <animato> now if only someone could help me with my problem
[11:15] <speedie> Morrowyn: could this have anything to do with it?
[11:15] <animato> hello,  i'm having troubles with my display, i set power managment to put the display to sleep in one minute, but it won't work!
[11:15] <speedie> # Use these options to restrict which interfaces/protocols sshd will bind to
[11:15] <speedie> #ListenAddress ::
[11:15] <speedie> #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
[11:16] <[WP] IOWAHC> Hy
[11:16] <hastesaver> Minty, click on tools -> room list
[11:16] <dushy> any one knows.. weather UBUNTU provides software for mp3 or we have to download it?
[11:16] <[WP] IOWAHC> I got a question... I try to run the Terminal under Gnome, but he doesn't open a window for it
[11:16] <Minty> k got that
[11:17] <hastesaver> !tell dushy -about mp3
[11:17] <Morrowyn> dunno, but you might wanna install x11 on the mac or something, cox calling x apps through ssh, should normally boot the xapp
[11:17] <Morrowyn> either check fink or darwinport for the mac
[11:17] <speedie> Morrowyn: I have X11 on the mac
[11:17] <speedie> it runs fine
[11:17] <dli> [WP] IOWAHC, can you type the key combination, Alt-F2, and type "xterm" there
[11:17] <Morrowyn> ok
[11:17] <speedie> but can't run apps remotely from the linux box
[11:17] <Morrowyn> should work then i guess, i never tried it though
[11:17] <dushy> HASTESAVER... i can run only original cds.. i have some recorded mp3s and its not recognising
[11:18] <pavlix> Minty: sorry, I missed your question...
[11:18] <Morrowyn> i might give get a go on my mac
[11:18] <Morrowyn> get/it
[11:18] <[WP] IOWAHC> dli I know how to change into a console, but it doesn't work with some other programs either
[11:18] <[WP] IOWAHC> lately I got a problem that he doesn't let me create temp directories
[11:18] <serp> what exactly is synergy?
[11:18] <pavlix> Minty: room is jabber, server is conference.jabber.org
[11:18] <[WP] IOWAHC> It appears after I come back from the Monitor lock.... Don't know... could this be the reason?
[11:18] <hastesaver> dushy, maybe you need the appropriate plugins installed -- did you read that link ubotu gave you?
[11:18] <dli> [WP] IOWAHC, I hate "I know/knew"
[11:19] <Minty> k am in but empty only me and one more person
[11:19] <[WP] IOWAHC> sorry dli
[11:19] <[WP] IOWAHC> but what could be the problem?
[11:19] <dushy> yea.. i am reading it.. but its quite possible to install the software right?
[11:19] <dli> [WP] IOWAHC, I didn't even tell you to use console
[11:19] <[WP] IOWAHC> He can't create tempdirs...
[11:19] <mustard5> dushy, yep
[11:19] <hastesaver> dushy, yes of course :)
[11:20] <mustard5> dushy, just follow the directions on the restricted formats page in the wiki
[11:21] <dushy> its giving soo many info.. i am confused.. should i have to click on the link provided?
[11:21] <JinRoh> Hello
[11:21] <JinRoh> Someone with AMD64 got XGL -compiz working on dapper 6.06??? I always break the system!!
[11:21] <mustard5> dushy, there is one section of the page that deals with just mp3's
[11:21] <blazemonger> i guess no one here experiences trhe bug ive experienced
[11:21] <JinRoh> I had to reinstall six times yesterday
[11:22] <blazemonger> ive found out that in the themes area half of the icon themes dont work
[11:22] <talios> does anyone know how to change which network card driver ubuntu uses?  the LiveCD is using a different version to the install, and the install doesn't work :(
[11:22] <dushy> i am trying.. let me see :/
[11:22] <mustard5> dushy, this is the link to that section of the page.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-a57167a3ce442dc52d9b05e46a14503330d4e970
[11:23] <dushy> oh thanks MUSTARD5 :))
[11:23] <mustard5> dushy, just reading it myself it says to install one package via the command line
[11:24] <Talisker> has anyone had any luck viewing wmvs?
[11:24] <Talisker> I get only audio when using vlc
[11:24] <aaron_> eon@ya.com
[11:24] <dushy> i have to copy paste the line in the terminal right?? :)
[11:24] <aaron_> aaroncampeon@ya.com
[11:24] <mustard5> dushy, correct...you may need to enable universe and multiverse repositories first
[11:24] <aaron_> aaron11213
[11:24] <OpusDei> how do you ignore someone with xchat?
[11:24] <mustard5> dushy, give it a try and if it fails you havent enabled them yet
[11:25] <OpusDei> you used to be able to right click on someone
[11:25] <OpusDei> and chose ingore
[11:25] <dushy> ok.. i will do it right now :)
[11:25] <aaron_> ola a todos
[11:25] <Talisker> has anyone had any luck viewing wmvs?
[11:25] <zcat[1] > !w32codecs
[11:25] <Minty> RL calling got to go, by all
[11:26] <dli> Talisker, wmv should work, unless it's DRM
[11:26] <aaron_> hello
[11:26] <Talisker> !w32codecs
[11:26] <Talisker> DRM?
[11:26] <dushy> it says package couldent be found :((
[11:26] <aaron_> my name is aaron
[11:26] <mustard5> dushy, k..so you need to click on the link shown in the opening paragraph on enabling the extra repositories
[11:26] <dli> Talisker, yes, the evil thing fsf.org wants to fight against
[11:27] <Talisker> and how common is it?
[11:27] <zcat[1] > digital restriction management
[11:27] <dushy> ok.. wait let me try it..
[11:27] <iocaste> digital rights management isn't it?
[11:27] <dushy> u mean i have to click AddingRepositoriesCliHowto?
[11:27] <mustard5> dushy, k
[11:27] <OpusDei> thx
[11:28] <Talisker> how do I know if a WMV file is DRM?
[11:28] <Talisker> about 90% of the WMV files I'm trying to play won't show any image, only sound
[11:28] <zcat[1] > very common for porn clips on p2p.. they use it because then wmp calls the website to get a key and they can use that to install spyware...
[11:29] <mustard5> dushy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:29] <mustard5> dushy, CLI sounds good too
[11:29] <dli> Talisker, do you have w32codecs?
[11:29] <Talisker> very common on p2p porn? how about http porn?
[11:29] <mustard5> dushy, I can't see a link with Cli in it though :)
[11:29] <mustard5> dushy, send it too me so I can see it :)
[11:29] <Talisker> that was lame
[11:29] <dushy> ok wait...
[11:29] <zcat[1] > http porn they just install the spyware directly through MSIE flaws :)
[11:29] <zorglu1> is this a bot ?
[11:29] <bach> sprechen sie po polsku?
[11:29] <mustard5> dushy, ah I see it..its on the page you just opened
[11:30] <dushy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesCliHowto
[11:30] <Talisker> dli, yes, I do have w32codecs
[11:30] <JinRoh> Someone with AMD64 got XGL -compiz working on dapper 6.06??? I always break the system!!
[11:30] <mustard5> dushy, do you not have a gui interface atm?
[11:30] <zcat[1] > wtf? MSIE is a swearword here?
[11:30] <dushy> i have gui.
[11:30] <Talisker> zcat[1] , pr0n
[11:30] <zorglu1> porn
[11:30] <zorglu1> http porn
[11:30] <zcat[1] > oh..
[11:30] <pavlix> Minty....
[11:30] <Talisker> appearntly, saying porn is fine, but saying http pr0n is wrong
[11:31] <zcat[1] > rofl..
[11:31] <dli> Talisker, using mplayer?
[11:31] <Talisker> vlc
[11:31] <zorglu1> hmm
[11:31] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> haha
[11:31] <zorglu1> porn
[11:31] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> this is not right
[11:31] <dushy> what should i do now?? :((
[11:31] <mustard5> dushy, either way works...either the command line method (CLI), or the method shown on the rest of the page using Synaptic
[11:31] <zorglu1> i think you need to put http in front of it
[11:31] <pavlix> Minty... sorry but I can't read ubuntu's conversation... but if you want to talk to me... add me to your contacts... pavlix@jabber.cz
[11:31] <zorglu1> retrying
[11:31] <zorglu1> http porn
[11:31] <dushy> so u mean i have to click on the link?
[11:31] <Talisker> dli, mplayer wont play wmv at all
[11:32] <AlmtyBob> heh
[11:32] <AlmtyBob> now my motherboard's telling me my lan cable failed
[11:32] <zorglu1> yep the dirty word is "http prOn" but not porn, weird bot
[11:32] <mustard5> dushy, not really...try it via the Synaptic Package Manager
[11:32] <mustard5> dushy, there are lots of pics on the screen of the interface and menus
[11:32] <dli> Talisker, never say, "it doesn't work", be more specific
[11:32] <AlmtyBob> and it still freezes on boot
[11:32] <AlmtyBob> shoot me
[11:32] <zorglu1> ok i stop playing with bot
[11:33] <dli> Talisker, mplayer prints out messages why it couldn't play
[11:33] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, hmmm..its sounding like hardware failure of some kind?
[11:33] <AlmtyBob> I'll guess I'll try installing on another drive
[11:33] <AlmtyBob> but it's a fresh out of plastic WD drive
[11:33] <dushy> i dont know much about linux.. its only since couple of days i am actually using it.. :( i like linux a lot :((
[11:33] <AlmtyBob> and it's not even giving me a failure message
[11:34] <meisterwinter> hi
[11:34] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, so you just put the drive in recently?
[11:34] <zcat[1] > mplayer gives you error messages IF you run it from the terminal.. not from the GUI :)\
[11:34] <AlmtyBob> yes, it's a brand new pc
[11:34] <AlmtyBob> with all brand new components except the pci vid card
[11:34] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, maybe there are some things that aren't seated in their slots properly
[11:35] <AlmtyBob> could ubuntu be trying to display to pcie instead of pci?
[11:35] <AlmtyBob> yah but why would any of that mean I can boot from CD and not hdd?
[11:35] <dushy> i am using UBUNTU LINUX 5.01v and i hope it has no mp3 support.
[11:35] <dli> !mp3
[11:35] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:35] <zcat[1] > 5.01 ?!!
[11:35] <dushy> i mean.. it has not provided mp3 s/w in the install cd
[11:36] <meisterwinter> anyone knows proftp and Gproftp?
[11:36] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, personally I would be powering down and going over the way I have it all connected up and confirming all the cables are connected properly
[11:36] <zcat[1] > dushy: no, there will be no mp3 decoder on the CD..
[11:36] <AlmtyBob> checked and double checked mustard
[11:36] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, k
[11:36] <AlmtyBob> I guess I'll try unplugging everything else
[11:37] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, change the slots for the PCI cards around
[11:37] <dushy> dosent matter if i have mp3.. but how to make it play... i need to be alive to hear those songs :((
[11:38] <hastesaver> dushy, let's go over the whole thing again -- did you do everything mentioned on that page?
[11:38] <mustard5> dushy, if you really must I can walk you through this, but you should try reading the page contents :)
[11:38] <dli> !mp3
[11:38] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:38] <MenZa`lap> mp3 is lame
[11:38] <MenZa`lap> ...in more than one way.
[11:38] <simonp_> Can somebody tell me how to create a .la file?
[11:38] <meisterwinter> i dont know how to start gproftp, why cant or dont want anyone help me,:-(
[11:38] <dli> how come? I always thought mp3 as free
[11:38] <dushy> well i went only to mp3 part.. just copy pasted the command on my terminal but its not responding
[11:39] <apokryphos> meisterwinter: have you read the manual? Have you searched google?
[11:39] <zcat[1] > lame is NOT an mp3 encoder
[11:39] <MenZa`lap> simonp_: pico file.la ?
[11:39] <meisterwinter> yes
[11:39] <apokryphos> meisterwinter: what part are you having a problem on then
[11:39] <AlmtyBob> unplugged both hdd's, no difference
[11:39] <hyphenated> simonp_: they're used internally by automate tools. why do you want to make one?
[11:39] <dushy> well yea MUSTARD5.. i am managing both chat and info.. may be i have to read slow and study :)
[11:39] <blazemonger> anyone want to install prboom and see if it doesnt freeze?
[11:39] <JinRoh> Someone with AMD64 got XGL -compiz working on dapper 6.06??? I always break the system!!
[11:39] <meisterwinter> i try it since yesterday at 12 oclock, until 2 aclock in the morning
[11:39] <mustard5> dushy, :)
[11:40] <apokryphos> JinRoh: /msg ubotu xgl
[11:40] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, whats happening with both hd's unplugged?
[11:40] <zcat[1] > dushy: you have to add universe and multiverse repos first.. top of webpage
[11:40] <simonp_> im installing a package some say it missing /usr/lib/liblcms.la
[11:40] <apokryphos> meisterwinter: what part are you having a problem on then
[11:40] <Administrator_> I'm running kde and I want to have a mac os x like bar
[11:40] <dushy> let me check ZCAT
[11:40] <hyphenated> simonp_: what package?
[11:40] <apokryphos> Administrator_: install kxdocker or ksmoothdock
[11:40] <boabsta> hello, anyone know what plugin you need for burning video CD/DVD in K3B
[11:40] <boabsta> ?
[11:40] <simonp_> a library call ogre3d
[11:40] <Administrator_> apokryphos, which one is faster/less mem etc.. for slow pc?
[11:40] <apokryphos> Administrator_: and #kubuntu is better for kde-related questions ;-)
[11:40] <hastesaver> dushy, what did you paste?
[11:41] <apokryphos> Administrator_: not sure. It's worth trying both. KXdocker is more popular, I think.
[11:41] <dushy> the mp3 command.. wait i wll paste again..
[11:41] <hyphenated> simonp_: install the -dev package (libcms1-dev probly)
[11:41] <meisterwinter> i have installed it with aptitude, proftp and gproftp. proftp is running, but i don t know how to use or start the grafic part. cant find it where i can start it in terminal
[11:42] <dushy> sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad... that one i pasted on my terminal
[11:42] <apokryphos> meisterwinter: there is no graphical part... it's an ftp server.
[11:42] <hyphenated> simonp_: did this thing have a ./configure stage?
[11:42] <hastesaver> dushy, and what did it say?
[11:42] <AlmtyBob> mustard5: no change
[11:42] <bentrust> hi
[11:42] <hastesaver> dushy, did you hit enter after the end of the command?
[11:42] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, yeah..but I'm not sure what 'no change' is :)
[11:42] <dushy> it read couldent find package
[11:42] <simonp_> hydroksyde, ./configure past without errors
[11:42] <meisterwinter> yes, Gproftp is the grapic part to configure proftpd
[11:42] <dushy> yep i did.
[11:42] <AlmtyBob> still hangs at exactly the same place
[11:43] <hastesaver> dushy, have you enabled the universe repository?
[11:43] <apokryphos> oh, gproftp
[11:43] <mustard5> hastesaver, he hasn't yet :)
[11:43] <dushy> it asked for the password and after that it said those lines
[11:43] <iocaste> dushy: have you need enabled the extra repositories?
[11:43] <apokryphos> meisterwinter: try maybe starting it up...... alt+f2 -> gproftp
[11:43] <hastesaver> dushy, did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto ?
[11:43] <dushy> hastesaver.. not yet.
[11:43] <simonp_> hydroksyde: i'll try install liblcms-dev
[11:43] <dli> dushy, always report the error message (hopefully, the topmost one), never say, "it doesn't work"
[11:43] <AlmtyBob> ok, now I unplugged all other hdds, my cdrom, and my tuner card and it still hangs
[11:43] <meisterwinter> ok
[11:43] <AlmtyBob> all that's in there is a pci vid card and a single hdd
[11:43] <dushy> DLI? sorry i didnt get u
[11:43] <iocaste> dushy: it won't work until you do that.
[11:44] <hyphenated> simonp_: tell them to smarten up their configure.ac so that it uses pkgconfig and checks for lcms
[11:44] <dushy> should i click on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:44] <mustard5> dushy, that package you are being asked to install is in what is called the universe/mulitiverse repositories..until you enable them you can't install it :)
[11:44] <teletubbie> !java
[11:44] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:44] <dushy> or on to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:44] <mustard5> dushy, that last one
[11:44] <hyphenated> simonp_: basically, if things fail during build, but not during ./configure, then their configure script is wrong
[11:44] <mustard5> dushy, read that page :)
[11:44] <dushy> i have to click on it?
[11:45] <mustard5> yes
[11:45] <simonp_> hyphenated: their ./configure sucks
[11:45] <hyphenated> simonp_: or, learn how it all fits together (takes a while) and send them a patch :-)
[11:45] <meisterwinter> it doesnt work too
[11:46] <meisterwinter> cant find gproftpd
[11:46] <meisterwinter> hmm
[11:46] <simonp_> hyphenated: i hope so
[11:46] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, so if you connected the CD drive it would boot the CD?
[11:46] <AlmtyBob> yup
[11:46] <AlmtyBob> with absolutely no issues whatsoever
[11:46] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, hmm..so its the hard drive
[11:46] <dushy> well i read.. and it says different kinds of players.. thats it
[11:46] <AlmtyBob> if it were a hdd error I'd think my bios would bitch
[11:46] <hastesaver> dushy, start synaptic
[11:47] <AlmtyBob> instead of just plain hanging
[11:47] <meisterwinter> mom, i poste the aptitude message, perhaps i have to install iot manually, because it isnt in the sourceserver
[11:47] <dushy> synaptic?
[11:47] <hastesaver> dushy, Did you really read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto ? :p
[11:47] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, how long have you left in hanging ?
[11:47] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, maybe it hasnt had time to bitch? :)
[11:47] <meisterwinter> so here
[11:48] <meisterwinter> meisterwinter@ubuntu:~$ sudo aptitude install gproftpd
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Password:
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Lese erweiterte Statusinformationen
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Initialisiere Paketstatus... Fertig
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Konnte kein Paket finden, dessen Name oder Beschreibung auf gproftpd passt.
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Es werden keine Pakete installiert, aktualisiert oder entfernt.
[11:48] <meisterwinter> 0 Pakete aktualisiert, 0 zustzlich installiert, 0 werden entfernt und 0 nicht aktualisiert.
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Muss 0B an Archiven herunterladen. Nach dem Entpacken werden 0B zustzlich belegt sein.
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Schreibe erweiterte Statusinformation... Fertig
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Lese erweiterte Statusinformationen
[11:48] <gnomefreak> meisterwinter: stop
[11:48] <meisterwinter> Initialisiere Paketstatus... Fertig
[11:48] <dushy> no i guess i read the other page .. oops sorry
[11:48] <meisterwinter> meisterwinter@ubuntu:~$
[11:48] <dli> meisterwinter, stop it please
[11:48] <meisterwinter> oh, its german :-)
[11:48] <meisterwinter> yo, it was only one time...:-)
[11:48] <|lostbyte|> Hi ! i got a weird problem..
[11:48] <mustard5> meisterwinter, use the pastebin please :)
[11:48] <meisterwinter> ok
[11:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell meisterwinter about paste
[11:49] <dushy> should i follow that procedure now?
[11:49] <AlmtyBob> mustard5, oh 15 minutes or so
[11:49] <iocaste> dushy: how many more times do we have to tell you? you have to follow the instructions on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:49] <mustard5> dushy, you should :)
[11:49] <AlmtyBob> I gave it plenty of time
[11:49] <meisterwinter> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13488
[11:49] <|lostbyte|> i boot up ubuntu and it goes throught the boot screen setting up settings and it goes black all of a sudden and says "shutdown" and pc goes off ?? anyone
[11:49] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, its a mystery :)
[11:49] <AlmtyBob> I'm trying a fresh install on a separate hdd
[11:49] <AlmtyBob> fucking magic
[11:49] <AlmtyBob> I hate FM
[11:50] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, watch the language is this channel ;)
[11:50] <gnomefreak> AlmtyBob: language
[11:50] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, pretty frustrating really..I hate boot problems
[11:51] <bentrust> nobody can help me to configure an usb keyboard under dapper ?
[11:51] <hastesaver> meisterwinter,  try #ubuntu-de if you want german
[11:51] <gnomefreak> bentrust: did you try in #ubuntu+1?
[11:51] <AlmtyBob> btw, if it were a hdd problem
[11:51] <AlmtyBob> why would it install perfectly?
[11:51] <dushy> cant find system configuration on my menu
[11:51] <gnomefreak> bentrust: #ubuntu+1 is the dapper suppport channel
[11:52] <bentrust> thx
[11:52] <mustard5> dushy, what type of desktop do you have ?  Gnome?
[11:52] <dushy> yea
[11:52] <dushy> gnome
[11:52] <meisterwinter> ok, thanks m8s
[11:52] <Ubuntunoob> are there any extra u need to install to enter channels on different servers in Xchat?
[11:52] <mustard5> dushy, go to your System menu...and then your Administration menu..and open Synaptic
[11:52] <AlmtyBob> damn and now I'm having a nic fit
[11:52] <dushy> that part i did
[11:52] <mustard5> Ubuntunoob, no
[11:53] <iocaste> dushy: the first part of the page explains where synaptic is on varios versions of Ubuntu
[11:53] <dushy> yea i got that..
[11:53] <hastesaver> dushy, so you've got synaptic running?
[11:53] <Ubuntunoob> mustard5, how do i list channels?
[11:53] <jim__> hi
[11:53] <dushy> yea
[11:53] <mustard5> Ubuntunoob, in the window menu up top..choose Channel list
[11:53] <dushy> still didnt do any modifications in synaptic
[11:53] <hastesaver> dushy, then follow the rest of the page (ignore the Ubuntu 4.10 section, it's not for you)
[11:54] <iocaste> dushy: follow the instructions
[11:54] <mustard5> Ubuntunoob, then press 'Refresh the list'
[11:54] <Ubuntunoob> mustard5, thx %-D
[11:54] <hastesaver> dushy, Settings -> repositories, etc -- go on from there
[11:54] <dushy> ok.. wht to do next after running synaptic?
[11:54] <hastesaver> dushy, read that page, please
[11:54] <AlmtyBob> oh could LVM be causing all this crap?
[11:54] <dushy> ok ok ok.. sorry
[11:54] <dushy> i was seeing 4.1
[11:54] <mustard5> dushy, it has pictures on the page for you follow :)
[11:55] <AlmtyBob> and FWIW, it's labeling my SATA drive as "SCSI4"
[11:56] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, I don't really know..that should really take effect until the operating system actually boots
[11:56] <jim__> Hi everyone - does anyone know a quick way to disable a connected usb device (without unplugging it :)
[11:56] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, I can't see how the Operating system can effect the boot up prior to loading from grub
[11:56] <AlmtyBob> me either honestly
[11:56] <AlmtyBob> but if it boots from CD, the CD can write to the HDD, and the BIOS isn't giving me an error, than what is it?
[11:57] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, you have a point with the install to HD working from CD..its a bit of a sticky problem
[11:57] <AlmtyBob> it seems like it's loading SOMETHING but that something hangs
[11:57] <AlmtyBob> either than or decides it won't use my PCI-vid card
[11:57] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, does the hard drive have the boot flag set?
[11:57] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, when you are doing the partitioning?
[11:57] <AlmtyBob> it's set as the first bootable drive (only one right now)
[11:57] <AlmtyBob> oh
[11:57] <AlmtyBob> letting ubuntu do it the default way
[11:57] <AlmtyBob> with LVM
[11:58] <VK2NA> please ingore this - introducing friend to IRC.
[11:58] <dushy> well.. i got stuck in software preference ....
[11:58] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, try checking whether it is set with the boot flag on when you are at the partitioning step
[11:58] <dushy> what to do over thre?
[11:59] <zcat[1] > cool, thunderbird is now tagging my phishing emails. Sweet!
[11:59] <ranpha> how can i get into my root account?
[11:59] <AlmtyBob> I believe I saaw something that looked like a boot flag icon
[11:59] <AlmtyBob> but I don't know what it looks like
[11:59] <AlmtyBob> I vaguely remember something I'd call a boot flag
[11:59] <nbdyspcl> ranpha: sudo. root account is disabled by default
[11:59] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, k..well its an angle to try...
[11:59] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, not many other angles to try atm :)
[12:00] <zcat[1] > 73's vk2na de zl3cat
[12:00] <AlmtyBob> yah
[12:00] <Dave_VK2> excellent zcat de vk2na
[12:02] <zcat[1] > irlp us sometime, zl1is 6549
[12:02] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, do you really need LVM?
[12:02] <AlmtyBob> dunno
[12:02] <AlmtyBob> but my next attempty will be to install without it
[12:03] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, yeah.. I never use it myself
[12:03] <Dave_VK2> zcat:  what is IRLP?
[12:04] <zcat[1] > repeater link using voip..
[12:04] <zcat[1] > google it, runs on linux too..
[12:04] <|lostbyte|> anyone ?
[12:05] <Dave_VK2> i will.. thanks for that.
[12:06] <dushy> hastersaver?
[12:06] <bjornkri> Is there a linux equivalent of tortoiseSVN?
[12:06] <rickk> what could be wrong when I have installed graphic drivers but yet can't get more than 60 FPS on screen?
[12:06] <Teetrinker> Moin, Leute
[12:06] <gnomefreak> bjornkri: what is tortoisesvn?
[12:07] <dushy> can any one see me?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> rickk: what card?
[12:07] <taku> la
[12:07] <taku> ola
[12:07] <bjornkri> gnomefreak: It's a SVN client that attaches to the right-click menu, as it were
[12:07] <zcat[1] > dushy: just read the webpage...
[12:07] <gnomefreak> taku: /j #ubuntu-es
[12:07] <Blissex> gnomefreak: Windows Explorer extension...
[12:07] <rickk> gnomefreak; geforce ti 4200
[12:08] <dushy> never mind.. i dont want to do things which i am not sure of..
[12:08] <hastesaver> dushy, yes, what do you want?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> rickk: did you follow the wiki?
[12:08] <hastesaver> dushy, didn't you manage to follow the instructions on that page?
[12:08] <rickk> gnomefreak: yes
[12:08] <taku> hello may name is aaron
[12:08] <dushy> i did.. but there is some slight vairation...
[12:08] <rickk> dir
[12:08] <bjornkri> any SVN client should do, though.
[12:08] <dushy> i have written in ur pm.
[12:08] <gnomefreak> rickk: did you edit your xorg to use the nivida drivers?
[12:09] <rickk> gnomefreak: no, what is xorg?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> bjornkri: there is one atleast hold on ill get you the name of it
[12:09] <jim__> Hi everyone - does anyone know a quick way to disable a connected usb device (without unplugging it :)
[12:09] <taku> hello tk
[12:09] <gnomefreak> rickk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:09] <tk_> does anyone know how 2 get additional language packs?
[12:09] <apokryphos> jim__: unmount it
[12:09] <hastesaver> dushy, no, I didn't get anything :)
[12:09] <AlmtyBob> heh
[12:09] <taku> wath??
[12:09] <AlmtyBob> it's booting
[12:09] <AlmtyBob> woohoo
[12:09] <Jimmey__> I've screwed up grub, and am now using a liveCD - How do I do a grub HD install? I forget the command...
[12:10] <tk_> additional languages
[12:10] <dushy> ok wait  i will resend it again..
[12:10] <apokryphos> Jimmey__: /msg ubotu grub
[12:10] <AlmtyBob> I'm going to go kick my hdd and/or SATA controller
[12:10] <taku> soy spanis
[12:10] <tk_> taku: Im not who u think I am
[12:10] <gnomefreak> bjornkri: in terminal type apt-cache search svn     there are a bunch that come up
[12:10] <jim__> apokryphos: i don't know where it is mounted - can you tell me where to look?
[12:10] <bjornkri> thanks
[12:10] <apokryphos> jim__: in /mnt/ or /media/
[12:11] <taku> ola tk soi aaron
[12:11] <tk_> ? Im not 'aaron' and I live in Australia
[12:11] <dushy> i have to change universe to unverse multiverse... but i dont find universe.. in my it says main ristricted
[12:11] <taku> ok
[12:11] <rickk> gnomefreak: it says "enter the amount of memory to be used by your video card" but I have no idea what to put in.
[12:11] <dushy> should i still go further and paste universe multiverse on the main ristricted?
[12:11] <apokryphos> dushy: /msg ubotu repositories
[12:11] <tk_> anyhow.. does any1 know how to get different languages for U 5.10?
[12:11] <taku> im live espaa
[12:11] <jim__> apokryphos: Thanks but it's not in there - one device is a webcam - the other is a linksys base station
[12:12] <gnomefreak> rickk: leave it blank than
[12:12] <zcat[1] > dushy: click on "ADD"
[12:12] <apokryphos> tk_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LocaleConf
[12:12] <dushy> ok did ADD..
[12:12] <dushy> now?
[12:12] <tk_> apokryphos: thanx...
[12:12] <taku> cuantos aos tienes???
[12:12] <apokryphos> taku: English only in here
[12:12] <zcat[1] > there should be four boxes and only the first two ticked. Click the other two?
[12:13] <tk_> apokryphos: I dont mean that... I mean display diff languages as well as English
[12:13] <dushy> yep i did it .... next
[12:13] <taku> wath????apokryphos
[12:13] <gnomefreak> taku: /j #ubuntu-es
[12:14] <zcat[1] > whatever button closes the box.. OK or whatever..
[12:14] <to0om> hi folks, could it be that network-manager is not really stable?
[12:14] <mustard5> Jimmey__, take a look at this link too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phbc50/howtos/how-to_reinstall_grub
[12:14] <to0om> it seems to work for me, but when i restart gnome, it freezes while loading
[12:14] <dushy> OK. button.. and i closed it .. next?
[12:14] <taku> my messenger es aaroncampeon@ya.com
[12:14] <zcat[1] > click 'close'
[12:15] <dushy> u mean i have to close every thing now??
[12:15] <zcat[1] > just the preferences box..
[12:15] <dushy> yea did it..
[12:15] <zcat[1] > click reload if it didn't already do that
[12:22] <Dutchy> could somebody help me with this wine error
[12:22] <Dutchy> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[12:22] <Dutchy> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system" is not accessible.
[12:23] <blasph> how do I install a windows program (the game Icy Tower in this case) and run it using Wine? would it work to run an installation on my windows partition?
[12:25] <jim__> blasph: - you want cedega
[12:26] <blasph> jim__: yes, I do, but that costs money and right now I want to try and do this a free way. Icy tower is listed on WineHQ as working there, so I wanna know how I can get that to work.
[12:26] <Dutchy> and by any chance would you know whats causing my error, or how i can fix it?
[12:26] <Stormx2> blasph: wine problems?
[12:26] <Stormx2> Dutchy: wine problems?
[12:27] <Dutchy> yeah
[12:27] <blasph> Stormx2: not quite problems, more like I have no clue where to start
[12:27] <Stormx2> Dutchy: What command did you run to generate that error?
[12:27] <Stormx2> First install wine :)P
[12:27] <Dutchy> just wine with no parameters
[12:27] <blasph> but I just saw there they say the game works awfully slow on Wine so nevermind I guess
[12:28] <Stormx2> Mmm
[12:28] <Dutchy> anything i try to do with wine gives me that error... and using winecfg doesnt seem to fix it
[12:28] <Stormx2> Wine isn't perfect.
[12:28] <Stormx2> I only use it to run IE
[12:28] <hastesaver> I've never been able to get wine working satisfactorily on my computer; I've just given up
[12:29] <Stormx2> Dutchy: Well, how did you install it? sudo apt-get install wine ?
[12:29] <Dutchy> yeah... well with synaptic but thats the same
[12:29] <Stormx2> Hmmm
[12:29] <pierre-> !wine
[12:30] <mustard5> Dutchy, what application do you want to run with wine?
[12:30] <pierre-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 -- you might want this.
[12:30] <Dutchy> some old game
[12:30] <Stormx2> That uses winetools - BAD!
[12:30] <Ilokaaaasu> does somebody know solution for this kind of wine problem: when i try to start something with wine, it takes like 5minutes to open it, no matter what game/application
[12:30] <mustard5> Dutchy, so you called it with wine /pathtothegame/??.exe ?
[12:31] <Dutchy> mustard5, wine doesnt work yet
[12:31] <dnkidjit> arg. everytime i update laptop-mode config is replaced with the same messed up config. hard drive is gonna burn out going into standby every 2mins :(
[12:31] <mustard5> Dutchy, I didnt think wine did much when you just type in wine
[12:33] <mwright1nigh1> ubuntu live cd doesn't display properly on HP ILO console
[12:33] <RandolphCarter> heyy :) anybody else had/fixed problems with fglrx hanging when switching back to a virtual terminal? (ie. can't shutdown/reboot)
[12:33] <_mover> hey, how do i add more screen resolutions and refreshrates in x for ubuntu?
[12:33] <Dutchy> anyway i did try that yesterday but it keeps giving the error which doesnt look right... but just a second repeating it now, but now it doesnt find the file im prolly typing it wrong
[12:34] <holycow> !resolution
[12:34] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:34] <_mover> thank you
[12:36] <Jimmey__> Somehow, GRUB is on the MBR along side the FreeBSD boot loader - I've not got FreeBSD anymore, how can I delete it's bootloader?
[12:37] <mustard5> Jimmey__, they might no more about that at FreeBSD
[12:38] <zcat[1] > Jimmey__: make sure grub installed to hda not hda1?
[12:38] <Jimmey__> Okay
[12:38] <RandolphCarter> Jimmey__: I think one's probably in the MBR, the other's in the boot sector of a drive
[12:38] <Jimmey__> Ohh
[12:38] <RandolphCarter> do you see the freebsd one first?
[12:38] <Jimmey__> Yeas
[12:38] <Jimmey__> Yeah
[12:38] <RandolphCarter> using scsi or ide drives?
[12:39] <Jimmey__> The FreeBSD one must be on the MBR, and the FreeBSD one lets me select "Linux", and when I do, Grub comes up
[12:39] <AlmtyBob> yay! about 4 hours into the install and I got an X logon screen!
[12:39] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, heh..well done :)
[12:40] <AlmtyBob> it was FM after all
[12:40] <zcat[1] > I had the same problem.. didn't really understand why it was doing that at the time so I used dd to zero-wipe the MBR and partition table. That fixed it :)
[12:40] <AlmtyBob> didn't work on my main drive, but works just fine on my secondary drive
[12:40] <Jimmey__> zcat[1] , ehrm...
[12:40] <Jimmey__> How might I do that?
[12:40] <Jimmey__> :P
[12:40] <RandolphCarter> probably easier to get a dos disk and do fdisk /mbr :)
[12:40] <zcat[1] > that was a few years back..
[12:40] <RandolphCarter> make sure the linux partition's marked as 'active' though
[12:40] <Jimmey__> It is, I'm in it now
[12:41] <RandolphCarter> no, no, in the partition table
[12:41] <zcat[1] > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=0   (warning, this will trash your install)
[12:41] <eXistenZ> RandolphCarter, When I opened a folder which has like 3000 picture in the file manager, my computer stopped responding. How can I fix that?
[12:41] <AlmtyBob> now is there a quick and easy way to setup ubuntu so I can telnet in? I'm sick of sitting at the jury rigged desk I setup to install
[12:41] <zcat[1] > err count=1 rather
[12:41] <mustard5> I wonder whether GAG bootloader installs in the same place as the FreeBSD loader
[12:41] <pedro> !apt-cache
[12:41] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pedro
[12:42] <RandolphCarter> eXistenZ: go into the file browser and select Edit-Preferences
[12:42] <Jimmey__> Is there a way to make grub install to the MBR
[12:42] <pedro> !apt-proxy
[12:42] <ubotu> pedro: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:42] <zcat[1] > probably an option in grub-install
[12:42] <RandolphCarter> eXistenZ: on the Preview tab, you can select 'Show thumbnails': 'never'
[12:42] <zcat[1] > fbsd does weird partitioning too
[12:43] <gnomefreak> -b @cpe-68-174-27-216.si.res.rr.com
[12:43] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, I'm not sure I understand what your current setup is
[12:43] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, what email client do you use?
[12:43] <eXistenZ> RandolphCarter, thanks
[12:43] <AlmtyBob> mustard5: what do you mean?
[12:43] <AlmtyBob> like sys specs?
[12:43] <RandolphCarter> eXistenZ: np's :)
[12:44] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, never mind..I'm just confused about what you are trying to do :)
[12:44] <AlmtyBob> mustard5: I just want to telnet in from my windows box
[12:44] <AlmtyBob> or better yet, is there a decent X client for windows?
[12:44] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, haven't done that myself..so no experience of it
[12:44] <AlmtyBob> I know I can pry google that but I'm so f-ing tired 8/
[12:44] <zcat[1] > AlmtyBob: apt-get install ssh, google putty for the windows client
[12:44] <dli> AlmtyBob, use ssh, instead of telnet
[12:44] <carl> Hey guys, I need a hand... it seems writing to NTFS is not activated in ubuntu by default... is this because the kernel is compiled without it or because NTFS volumes get mounted like so by default?
[12:44] <eXistenZ> RandolphCarter, the default "image viewer" sucks in gnome
[12:44] <AlmtyBob> ah, good advice, thanks
[12:45] <zcat[1] > carl: linux can't write ntfs.
[12:45] <dli> carl, this is because write to ntfs is not supported by kernel
[12:45] <AlmtyBob> wow, hitting z then c is incredibly hard for me
[12:45] <AlmtyBob> zcat[1] : I type 'apt-get install ssh' in a term?
[12:45] <carl> Uh but it can be compiled in there... even though it is still experimental
[12:45] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, sudo apt-get install ssh
[12:45] <dli> carl, read the help there
[12:46] <zcat[1] > sudo apt-get install ssh in a term, yeah
[12:46] <RandolphCarter> eXistenZ: never really noticed a problem, but you could always use Synaptic to get another
[12:46] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, it will ask for your user password
[12:46] <AlmtyBob> thanks
[12:46] <carl> dli: Hmm so how do I know what kernel version I'm running?
[12:46] <Hattori> hi, how to change static ip from wlan0 interface?
[12:46] <AlmtyBob> sudo runs a command as root?
[12:46] <zcat[1] > sudoes :)
[12:46] <dli> carl, uname -a
[12:46] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, yep
[12:46] <carl> Hattori: ifconfig wlan0 10.0.0.1
[12:46] <eXistenZ> RandolphCarter, what email client do you use?
[12:47] <AlmtyBob> hmm, ubuntu sets my root pass as the same pass I picked for my default user?
[12:47] <Hattori> carl: then i have to ifdown wlan0 ifup wlan0 ?
[12:47] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, no..
[12:47] <zcat[1] > no, ubuntu uses your user pw to allow sudo
[12:47] <carl> AlmtyBob: it doesn't set your root passwd you have to use sudo
[12:47] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, root is disabled by default, but your first user is a member of the admin group
[12:47] <RandolphCarter> eXistenZ: evolution (I use the groupware stuff at work)
[12:47] <AlmtyBob> ok, thanks again
[12:48] <eXistenZ> RandolphCarter, is it better than Thunderbird?
[12:48] <dli> AlmtyBob, no, root passwd is disabled by default
[12:48] <ompaul> !root
[12:48] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:48] <RandolphCarter> eXistenZ: 'better', in these regards, is always highly subjective :) (use whichever you prefer)
[12:48] <zcat[1] > does evolution tag spam and phishing mail for you?
[12:49] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, ^^^ that note from ubotu is the logic and how you can work with it
[12:49] <eXistenZ> RandolphCarter, What RSS aggregator do you use?
[12:49] <Hattori> carl: then i have to ifdown wlan0 ifup wlan0 ?
[12:49] <RandolphCarter> zcat[1] : that's never really been a problem for me, wouldn't know :/
[12:49] <mustard5> zcat[1] , I use spamassasin, but it doesnt seem to do a very good job :)
[12:49] <mustard5> zcat[1] , it doesnt tag much at all..I'm constantly marking the stuff as spam
[12:49] <zcat[1] > just noticed tb is highlighting my phishing emails now too.. that is sweet.
[12:49] <RandolphCarter> eXistenZ: I don't :)
[12:50] <zcat[1] > and it gets almost all my spam
[12:50] <mustard5> zcat[1] , I think thunderbird works much better with spam
[12:50] <eXistenZ> oh really
[12:50] <RandolphCarter> eXistenZ: probably should sometime, but it's not like I visit 50+ sites often anyway
[12:50] <zcat[1] > i find evo too confusing. the suits like it i guess
[12:50] <RandolphCarter> tsk :P but yeah, they do
[12:51] <zcat[1] > i just want mail, not all that other stuff ;)
[12:52] <RandolphCarter> ahh :) we use the calendars and stuff where I work, almost everything runs solaris, so we don't worry about outlook :)
[12:52] <AlmtyBob> um, I know this is retarded, but one more dumb question, what's the command to show my ip?
[12:52] <zcat[1] > /sbin/ifconfig
[12:52] <AlmtyBob> I thought I'd be smart and connect to IRC and /dns myself
[12:52] <AlmtyBob> forgetting all about NAT
[12:52] <AlmtyBob> thanks
[12:53] <AlmtyBob> mustard5: here's something weird for you
[12:53] <AlmtyBob> back when my computer was hanging
[12:53] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, I believe your wrong in your definition of what your abilites are and all your doing in terms of knowledge is getting more so better if you said " what's the command to show my ip? " :-)
[12:53] <AlmtyBob> my computer had contacted my dhcp server
[12:53] <AlmtyBob> ompaul: I just mean it's something I could have easily googled
[12:54] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, so say, here is an easy one :-)
[12:54] <AlmtyBob> YES! TELNET PROMPt!
[12:54] <AlmtyBob> Man, that's so amazingly easy compared to the last time I installed linux
[12:54] <mustard5> :)
[12:55] <AlmtyBob> no manually setting up my network, downloading and compiling ssh, sweet
[12:55] <dnkidjit> ompaul: at least his qualifier on one line ;) what more can you ask for really
[12:55] <Hattori> where can i see/change wlan0 settings? where is the file to edit?
[12:55] <zcat[1] > dhcp makes things easy
[12:55] <Hattori> !wlan0
[12:55] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hattori
[12:55] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, apt-get is a beautiful package manager
[12:55] <AlmtyBob> last time I installed home routers didn't exist 8/
[12:55] <AlmtyBob> yah, it sure seems like it
[12:55] <ompaul> dnkidjit, hehehehe, you could have a point there :-)
[12:55] <AlmtyBob> how dangeround would it be to port forward 22 to my linux box?
[12:55] <AlmtyBob> are there a lot of vulnerabilities?
[12:56] <zcat[1] > how strong is your passwd
[12:56] <AlmtyBob> I have "friends" who would love to port scan my ass
[12:56] <AlmtyBob> strong
[12:56] <RandolphCarter> so, nobody had any luck fixing fglrx hanging?
[12:56] <holycow> not really, but you need to lookup how to lockdown your ssh properly
[12:56] <AlmtyBob> not going to be dictionaried or brute-forced anytime soon
[12:56] <AlmtyBob> ok
[12:56] <holycow> and trap brute force attacks
[12:56] <AlmtyBob> gotta write that down
[12:56] <blixtra> Is anyone using xchat-gnome and getting a garbled username for each msg entry?
[12:56] <zcat[1] > ssh is pretty strong, as long as your pw isn't 'secret' or anything lame like that..
[12:56] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, yeah there are lots of options for 'hardening' your system with ssh
[12:56] <hastesaver> apart from brute-force attacks, are tehre other risks?
[12:57] <AlmtyBob> almost made me spit my soda out with 'secret'
[12:57] <holycow> what mustard5 said, just do thorough research
[12:57] <zcat[1] > there are LOTS of skiddies that scan and try to BF ssh
[12:57] <holycow> become an ssh ninja if you will
[12:57] <AlmtyBob> my boss's password is always his name plus an incrementing number
[12:57] <blixtra> I see [garble] <[garble] nick[garble] n>[garble] n
[12:58] <zcat[1] > my 22 is open.. has been for a long time. It's pretty safe
[12:58] <AImtyBob> yay ircing from my new server!
[12:58] <mustard5> blixtra, sounds very strange
[12:58] <AlmtyBob> oh, so any decent windows X clients?
[12:58] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, mind if I msg u
[12:58] <blixtra> mustard5: but you aren't seeing it
[12:58] <AlmtyBob> go for it
[12:58] <No1Viking> Yo! I would like to encrypt a whole disk or a part of a disk, for example. Is there a good application for it with a GUI that works for Gnoem, for example?
[12:58] <roniez> how do i change default window manager? cause i just installed fluxbox and i wanna use it as my default for xwindows
[12:58] <mustard5> blixtra, I'm not on xchat-gnome atm
[12:59] <zcat[1] > best windows X client is a knoppix CD :)
[12:59] <AlmtyBob> 8(
[12:59] <dnkidjit> AlmtyBob: as in connecting to a remote X server from windows? I've used cygwin for that
[12:59] <AlmtyBob> thanks, I'll look that up
[12:59] <Hobbsee> hi mustard5
[12:59] <mustard5> hey Hobbsee
[12:59] <blixtra> mustard5: I've been using xchat and I don't get this. All the encoding is UTF-8 which shoul dbe right.
[12:59] <dli> roniez, select in gdm before login
[12:59] <gnomefreak> goodmorning Hobbsee
[12:59] <roniez> dli: how?
[12:59] <Hobbsee> hi gnomefreak
[01:00] <dli> roniez, logout :) and select fluxbox as in sessions (or options => sessions), login
[01:00] <ompaul> Hobbsee, write a program to count the clockcycles that went to unused
[01:00] <mustard5> ompaul, hehe
[01:01] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:01] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[01:01] <hierophant> night everyone
[01:01] <Hobbsee> come to think of it, i probably could read up on the computer lectures for the week, most of which i did not attend.
[01:01] <ompaul> Hobbsee, point
[01:02] <AlmtyBob> dnkidjit: I'm at cygwin's site and I'm a bit confused, is it as similar to remote desktop?
[01:02] <mustard5> hierophant, night
[01:02] <AlmtyBob> or does it attempt to make windows seems like a linux OS?
[01:02] <Hattori> where can i see/change wlan0 settings? where is the file to edit?
[01:02] <dnkidjit> not finals yet? i swear i am reading up on all the lectures at this point, not just the last one :\
[01:02] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, have a look at nxserver and nxclient
[01:02] <AlmtyBob> ok
[01:03] <mustard5> I'm building a mound of tissues around me (has the flu)
[01:03] <hastesaver> AlmtyBob, cygwin is a bash shell for windows; nothing to do with remote desktop
[01:03] <AlmtyBob> ah ok
[01:03] <dnkidjit> AlmtyBob: it is a unix like environment for windows. as such it will run X as a client, allowing you to remotely connect to X running on some remote computer.. now that i think about it, i don't recommend it unless you enjoy a challenge
[01:03] <AlmtyBob> I'm just looking for an easy way to manage a headless server from XP
[01:03] <gnomefreak> *throws* medicine across the room to mustard5
[01:04] <dnkidjit> AlmtyBob: if you just want to ssh into your server, try putty :)
[01:04] <holycow> !putty
[01:04] <ubotu> it has been said that putty is a DFSG-free ssh/telnet/rsh client for Windows. It is small, simple, and has no install nonsense. Available at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:04] <AImtyBob> doing that right now dnkidjit
[01:05] <diogenes_> HCILENOS
[01:05] <No1Viking> Yo! I would like to encrypt a whole disk or a part of a disk, for example. Is there a good application for it with a GUI that works for Gnome somewhere?
[01:05] <AImtyBob> I just wanted to know if I could see this pretty X Windows setup from my windows box
[01:05] <diogenes_> ALGUN CHILENO
[01:05] <ompaul> diogenes_, please speak english
[01:05] <ompaul> !es
[01:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:05] <zcat[1] > if you need a GUI, probably vnc is easier than trying to find an X for windows
[01:05] <diogenes_> OK
[01:05] <holycow> actually no
[01:05] <Jimmey__> The / folder occupies 17.XGB of my 26GB partition - But my /home folder only occupies 4.XGB. How can I check where the rest of the space is being used?
[01:05] <holycow> xwin for windows is easy
[01:05] <dnkidjit> AlmtyBob: yeah. its possible, but it involves getting X running under cygwin and then setting up a remote connection with it. it will involve reading a few howtos
[01:05] <holycow> here: nomachine.com
[01:06] <ompaul> diogenes_, use lower case letters thank you
[01:06] <dnkidjit> holycow: unless i am wrong about that. there is an easier way?
[01:06] <AlmtyBob> ah, so no real simple solution then, guess I'll stick with putty
[01:06] <holycow> easier than what? installing a client and hitting connect for a secure remote x connection?
[01:06] <zcat[1] > vns is about as easy to set up as putty/ssh
[01:06] <zcat[1] > err vnc
[01:07] <zcat[1] > gonna look at xwin though. never seen that
[01:07] <dnkidjit> surely a remote X session is easier than using cygwin.
[01:07] <eXistenZ> zcat[1] , What media mplayer do you use?
[01:07] <ompaul> I just spent two days doing nx at a show and watching people freak as it dawned on them what was going on
[01:07] <AlmtyBob> is there an apt-get for a vnc server?
[01:08] <AlmtyBob> or am I talking out of my ass and there is no "vnc server"
[01:08] <holycow> ompaul,
[01:08] <Omeg> Hi all, is there an Ubuntu dev chatroom as well?
[01:08] <zcat[1] > vlc usually
[01:08] <blixtra> Jimmy__, you can use gparted to see the partition layout of your sytem
[01:08] <holycow> indeed
[01:08] <holycow> i wish people would listen a bit more
[01:08] <[Leo] > hi
[01:08] <holycow> instead of noobs just giving bad ad vice to other noobs
[01:08] <ompaul> !tell AlmtyBob about universe
[01:08] <roniez> well its a little hard for me to do that, i am remote logging in with freeNX
[01:08] <Omeg> Or a kind of channel in which people hang out that frequent the development mailing list.
[01:09] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, read that message from the bot - update your sources
[01:09] <deadcake> hi i need help with my printer
[01:09] <deadcake> who can help me?
[01:09] <blixtra> Omeg, #ubuntu-devel
[01:09] <Omeg> Thanks.
[01:09] <ompaul> Omeg, there is, what is your actual question, we may deal with it here
[01:09] <gnomefreak> deadcake: if you tell us what is wrong we can try to help you
[01:09] <Omeg> I don't have a question, I just want to frequent it. :)
[01:09] <zcat[1] > so is NX open source?
[01:10] <holycow> partially
[01:10] <holycow> but we werent talking about open source
[01:10] <holycow> were were talking about easy
[01:10] <zcat[1] > vnc is easy. and oS
[01:10] <M_Fatih> hi
[01:10] <dnkidjit> ompaul: i doubt it will help him. people are quick to volunteer information but no one seems to understand his problem. i believe he is after a remote X session to his server..someone says vlc, he asks about it, someone recommends universe repos. nothing is solved
[01:10] <holycow> *sigh*
[01:11] <AlmtyBob> nomachine looks like the type of app I want
[01:11] <ompaul> dnkidjit, he needs universe if he is going to use vnc
[01:11] <deadcake> i went here 2 days ago to resolve a problem with my hp deksjet 5940, but nobody helped me...i'm trying to make this printer work on ubuntu 5.10 i configure it with the wizard, but it doesn't work, i tried google, ubuntu.com, #ubuntu-it, #ubuntu, ubuntu-it.org
[01:11] <deadcake> but i don't found any help
[01:11] <carl_> Gah what are the tools needed to build the kernel? link to a list?
[01:11] <deadcake> for my problem
[01:11] <dnkidjit> ompaul: not if he is looking for win32 software ;)
[01:11] <mlm> quien hay por ah?
[01:11] <zcat[1] > holycow: I wasn't aware of NX before. But if it's not OSS I won't be recomending it wither
[01:12] <holycow> dude you need to just stop
[01:12] <holycow> your advice isn't exactly incorrect or bad
[01:12] <dli> deadcake, keep saying "it doesn't work" won't bring in any help at all. be more specific
[01:12] <deadcake> * i didn't found any help
[01:13] <dli> deadcake, you can also omit the "it doesn't work" statement
[01:13] <carl_> anyone?
[01:13] <karim> hi
[01:13] <AlmtyBob> mlm: necesita usar #ubuntu-es
[01:13] <dushy> did any one see CAT? in here
[01:13] <karim> I have a problem on ubuntu ppc
[01:13] <dli> carl_, install kernel-package
[01:13] <mlm> +W mlm
[01:13] <karim> the alt gr key doesn't work
[01:13] <carl_> dli: ah cheers
[01:13] <mlm> ty almty
[01:13] <karim> I can't do arobase or brackets
[01:13] <deadcake> i have an hp deskjet 5940, i tried to make it work with the default drivers (hpijs) but it doesn't work! i am newbie and that's all i can say!
[01:13] <seanh873> Hello - I'm installing Ubuntu for someone, what is the best way to get WMA music file support or convert them to OGG?
[01:14] <dushy> actually i was in the middle of the conversation and the current went out
[01:14] <deadcake> i'm not very expert with linux!
[01:14] <mustard5> dushy, welcome back dushy
[01:14] <mustard5> dushy, I wondered where you went to
[01:14] <NoobSauce> does anyone know how to get a OSX type taskbar in gnome?
[01:14] <josh> hi
[01:14] <dushy> thanks mustard5... plz dont think that the head ache came :P
[01:14] <iocaste> dushy: have you read that page yet? :)
[01:14] <mustard5> dushy, zcat[1]  talked to you and then there was silence for ages :)
[01:14] <josh> which
[01:15] <zcat[1] > dushy: did you manage to get synaptic to reload?
[01:15] <NoobSauce> I'm a total linux noob on this... do I skin something called metacity? seems the links point every which way on this one...
[01:15] <roniez> gah, how can i change the default windows manager? to fluxbox? with out using gdm? before i log in?
[01:15] <josh> It is the first time for me to use a IRC, help me
[01:15] <mustard5> deadcake, not many of us are experts here :)
[01:15] <gnomefreak> roniez: iirc fluxbox uses gdm for login
[01:16] <seanh873> Right now I'm trying to compile xmms-wma from source
[01:16] <roniez> yea but how do i make it so i can use fluxbox insteed of kde.
[01:16] <mustard5> deadcake, its all volunteers, so the support can be sketchy at times depending on what experience people have had
[01:16] <Santiago_> Anyone know their way around xauth here?
[01:16] <deadcake> mustard5, me too, so i can't be more specific, i just plugged my printer and tried to install it with the wizard
[01:16] <roniez> cause i am using freeNX to log in to my box.
[01:16] <dli> roniez, did you ever checked gdm?
[01:16] <deadcake> but it doesn't work
[01:17] <deadcake> so, i tried all the documentation
[01:17] <carl_> dli: didn't really help still can't make menuconfig
[01:17] <mustard5> deadcake, I've found help for setting up printers is pretty hard to come by
[01:17] <roniez> gdm dont want to run for me, it asks for password but nothing me. and sence i "auto" login when i juse freeNX i cant prevent it from using kde.
[01:18] <gnomefreak> roniez: sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager   that should do it
[01:18] <pedro> !tv
[01:18] <ubotu> pedro: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:18] <pedro> !tvtime
[01:18] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pedro
[01:18] <ompaul> !mythtv
[01:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[01:18] <mowgly_> hello : D
[01:18] <dli> carl_, what do you mean?
[01:18] <roniez> fluxbox isnt showing in there.
[01:19] <dushy_> sorry guys.. extreamly sorry :(
[01:19] <mowgly_> can you say me what is the command to remove a module ?
[01:19] <dli> roniez, can you restart gdm?
[01:19] <mustard5> dushy_, you getting disconnected all the time?
[01:19] <AlmtyBob> "sudo apt-get install vnc4server xinetd" is what I need to do to install a VNC server?
[01:19] <dushy_> major power problem today :((
[01:19] <roniez> dli: how do u mean?
[01:19] <dli> mowgly_, rmmod
[01:19] <carl_> dli: nah I'm retarded... only had the headers not the full kernel source... now I got the package linux-k7 but no idea where it goes... not in /usr/src :/ only headers there
[01:19] <dushy_> yea.. we are facing power cuts :'(
[01:19] <mowgly_> dli > thanks but not from the memory from the HD
[01:19] <dli> roniez, stop gdm, and start gdm
[01:20] <dushy_> dont know it might go again :(
[01:20] <dli> carl_, install linux-source
[01:20] <newbuntie> after upgrading to dapper, rhythmbox doesn't want to import my music claiming they aren't audio streams, anyone had a similar problem?
[01:20] <dushy_> where did the cat 1 go?
[01:20] <dli> mowgly_, why do you want to do that?
[01:20] <carl_> dli: linuxx-k7 is supposed to be the full source according to the description... :/
[01:20] <gnomefreak> newbuntie: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[01:20] <dushy_> mustard5?
[01:20] <newbuntie> k, thx
[01:20] <mustard5> dushy, he is still around
[01:21] <mowgly_> dli > to make my HD cleaner, i installed a module that i don't want
[01:21] <dushy_> can u help me ?
[01:21] <track_> Hey guys, i really need your help.
[01:21] <dli> carl_, I am not sure whether ubuntu hack kernel source to that extent
[01:21] <track_> I'm in the commandline right now and I'm using bitchx to write this.
[01:21] <mustard5> dushy, yeah..I just want to test something...
[01:21] <carl_> track_: just spit your question out and if someone can help they will :)
[01:21] <mustard5> dushy, open a terminal
[01:21] <iocaste> gasp.. not the command line!
[01:22] <dushy_> yep opened.. next what mustard?
[01:22] <carl_> dli: me neither :) first time I use ubuntu for real... or rather first time with a binary dist since like RH 5.0 :)
[01:22] <mustard5> dushy, type this command   sudo apt-get update
[01:22] <dli> mowgly_, depends on how you installed it, but you can always rm the files, in /lib/modules/
[01:22] <track_> After booting my PC this morning a blue screen came up and said something about "xserver" not working and the usual login screen did not show up.
[01:22] <track_> Is there anyway to fix this?
[01:22] <mowgly_> dli,  ok thank you
[01:23] <seanh873> sorry if I'm repeating - not sure if this got posted:  I'm installing Ubuntu for someone, what is the best way to get WMA music file support or convert them to OGG?
[01:23] <dushy_> typed and entered
[01:23] <dli> carl_, use "dpkg -c" to find the contents of the package deb, but it should be in /usr/src
[01:23] <holycow> track_, yes uninstall windows
[01:23] <holycow> >_>
[01:23] <mustard5> dushy, so it is downloading stuff?
[01:23] <Toma-> track_: a blue screen?
[01:23] <dushy_> yep i can see some stuff downloading... whats that for?
[01:23] <VIMmer> hi, i have got a font file and i was wondering how I should install it on dapper
[01:23] <roniez> oh btw, i am running kubunt... dammit wrong channel.
[01:24] <VIMmer> its an otf file
[01:24] <mustard5> dushy, its updating the list of packages available from the repositories
[01:24] <iocaste> seanh873: have a look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:24] <mowgly_> dli,  i deleted those in the 'wireless' directory but it still answer when i ask him 'modinfo rt2570' :(
[01:24] <dli> roniez, kdm also has a menu for sessions
[01:24] <pageyoo7> roniez: try mepis 6.0
[01:24] <dushy_> so after that i will be able to play my music?
[01:24] <track_> Toma-, it had this blue message with a black backround, saying something about "xserver"
[01:24] <pageyoo7> ubunto based
[01:24] <iocaste> seanh873: you probably just need to install the w3codecs
[01:24] <mustard5> dushy, I don't know yet...patience :)
[01:24] <track_> But then after that there is no loginscreen.
[01:24] <seanh873> iocaste - w32codecs doesn't seem to help
[01:24] <dli> mowgly_, as I said, depends on how you installed them
[01:25] <dushy_> ok..
[01:25] <mowgly_> dli, ok :(
[01:25] <Toma-> track_: ahh. did you just do an apt-get update or install any updates?
[01:25] <roniez> wth, kdm wont run... says must run as root and i do sudo kdm
[01:25] <roniez> and nothing happens
[01:25] <mustard5> dushy, do you see it downloading anything for 'universe' or 'multiverse'?
[01:25] <dushy_> it said READING PACKAGE LIST DONE..
[01:25] <pageyoo7> roniez: reinstall kdm
[01:25] <dushy_> now what
[01:25] <track_> Toma-, i did an "apt-get update" the night before.
[01:25] <dli> roniez, I told you to logout first
[01:25] <roniez> yes, but i cant dli, i am using freeNX and it auto logs me in.
[01:26] <Toma-> track_: ok, new xorg might have played with your nvidia drivers. i presume you have nvidia drivers installed?
[01:26] <mustard5> dushy, now I'm going to test whether what you were doing with zcat[1]  worked...try this command..
[01:26] <iocaste> track_: try running it again
[01:26] <mustard5> dushy,   sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:26] <dli> roniez, sorry, I don't know that
[01:26] <track_> I tried the "startx" command but nothing happend.
[01:26] <dushy_> i am getting a red button the menu.. and it says new updates available.. should i have to clikc on it?
[01:26] <track_> Isn't there a commnd to reconfigure "X"
[01:26] <dli> track_, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:27] <mustard5> dushy, not yet
[01:27] <Toma-> track_: sure is. are you using nvidia drivers?
[01:27] <dushy_> should i have to type what u gave just now?
[01:27] <dli> track_, to reconfigure X, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:27] <mustard5> dushy, do the command I asked you to above
[01:27] <mustard5> dushy, yep
[01:27] <dushy_> k
[01:27] <track_> No! this is my old PC and I'm using the one board card.
[01:27] <Toma-> track_: ok. well reconfiguring might not be the problem. try it and see tho!
[01:27] <track_> Toma-, would you happen to know what the command is to reconfigure "X"??
[01:28] <Toma-> track_: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:28] <mabus> loll
[01:28] <bookworm> could someone spare me a few minutes to talk me through installing firefox. i have it downloaded and unpacked what do i do next?
[01:28] <dushy_> it says 442 kb will be used .. and asking y or n option.. should i type y?
[01:28] <track_> Thanks
[01:28] <track_> I'll try that.
[01:28] <Toma-> track_: ive gtg, good luck with it! :D
[01:28] <mustard5> dushy, ok..say yes
[01:28] <hastesaver> bookworm, don't do that! read !firefox1.5
[01:29] <dushy_> reading database....
[01:29] <mustard5> dushy, k
[01:29] <mustard5> dushy, when its finished...try playing an mp3
[01:29] <mabus> !firefox1.5
[01:29] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:29] <bookworm> read firefox 1.5?
[01:29] <dushy_> Setting up gstreamer0.8-mad (0.8.11-0ubuntu5) .. this is what it read
[01:30] <VIMmer> hi, i have got a otf font file and i was wondering how I should install it on dapper. can anyone please help me?
[01:30] <hastesaver> bookworm, read the link ubotu sent you.
[01:30] <AlmtyBob> cool, got VNC working
[01:30] <roniez> isnt it possible to configure it manully?
[01:30] <ohzie> Hey! :)
[01:30] <mustard5> dushy, k
[01:30] <AlmtyBob> using some cheap VNC viewer I got off sourceforge
[01:30] <dushy_> ok let me search some cd and try to play
[01:30] <bookworm> sent me where?
[01:30] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, well done
[01:30] <AlmtyBob> thanks 8)
[01:30] <AlmtyBob> what's a good vnc viewer for windows?
[01:30] <rubooo> hi i have a problem , my sound isnt that good as in windows
[01:30] <ohzie> Can anybody point me in the right direction for upgrading from breez to dapper via synaptic?
[01:30] <AlmtyBob> this one kinda sucks
[01:31] <hastesaver> bookworm, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:31] <rubooo> how can i configure my soundcard better
[01:31] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, I have no idea :)
[01:31] <rubooo> i have bad sound :(
[01:31] <iocaste> ozhie
[01:31] <dushy_> THIS IS GREAT :))))
[01:32] <mustard5> dushy, I'm glad we got through that :)
[01:32] <dushy_> i can hear my MUSIC :))))))
[01:32] <ohzie> iocaste, yeah? :D
[01:32] <rubooo> me2 but it sounds worse
[01:32] <hastesaver> ohzie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[01:32] <dushy_> THANKS THANKS THANNNNNNNNNNNNNNKSS A LOT MUSTARD 5 :)))))
[01:32] <ohzie> Thank you
[01:32] <iocaste> ohzie: the easiest way of doing it is from the command line....
[01:32] <mustard5> dushy_, np
[01:32] <track_> It didn't work.
[01:32] <track_> Now what?
[01:32] <ompaul> dushy,
[01:32] <ohzie> iocaste, yeah?
[01:32] <dushy_> mustard5 are u working for linux?
[01:33] <ompaul> dushy, woops, less caps lock :-)
[01:33] <iocaste> ohzie: open a terminal and type: 'sudo apt-get update' ... then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[01:33] <dushy_> yea. i know that ompaul.. but couldent help it :P
[01:33] <iocaste> ohzie: be prepared for it to take a very long time though.
[01:33] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, googling around there seem to be a few options
[01:33] <mustard5> AlmtyBob, I don't know which ones are good though
[01:33] <hastesaver> iocaste, you forgot about telling him to update his sources.list (he wants to upgrade to dapper, not just an upgrade)
[01:33] <dushy_> mustard5?
[01:33] <ohzie> iocaste, You're telling me it's going to take me a while to upgrade my whole operating system? :(
[01:34] <iocaste> hastesaver: that's very true
[01:34] <iocaste> ohzie: you need to update your sources list too :)
[01:34] <ohzie> iocaste, Thanks alot, though! :D
[01:34] <ohzie> =P
[01:34] <dushy_> what should i do with the uptate icon??
[01:34] <ohzie> iocaste, How do I do that part?
[01:34] <ohzie> I'm new to apt
[01:34] <userone> hello everyone...to join the openoffice xchat server, is the command /join openoffice.org?
[01:34] <bookworm> hastesaver
[01:34] <ohzie> Used to yummmm
[01:34] <mustard5> dushy_, you can click on it now.. :)
[01:34] <track_> After booting my PC this morning a blue screen came up and said something about "xserver" not working and the usual login screen did not show up.
[01:34] <track_> What do i do now`
[01:34] <hastesaver> ohzie, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades, it's much simpler
[01:34] <track_> ?
[01:35] <dushy_> thanks mustard :)
[01:35] <bookworm> hastesaver thank you
[01:35] <hastesaver> bookworm, yes?
[01:35] <mustard5> dushy_, then just choose 'install' and it will automatically update all your stuff
[01:35] <gnomefreak> userone: you mean the channel?
[01:35] <ohzie> Okay
[01:35] <userone> gnomefreak: yes, the channel
[01:35] <hastesaver> bookworm, great. so you got firefox working
[01:35] <ohzie> Thank you both of you guys
[01:35] <gnomefreak> userone: /j #openoffice.org or whatever the channel name is
[01:35] <rubooo> my apt command dont works
[01:35] <rubooo> wy that?
[01:36] <kevor> rubooo: what's the error it spits at you?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> rubooo: can you use pastebin to paste the output of sudo apt-get update
[01:36] <userone> gnomefreak: thanks...is there a way I can check the channel name? Find it in a list maybe?
[01:36] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, what image viewer do you use?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> userone: not sure
[01:37] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: depends what im viewing but normally gthumb
[01:37] <userone> gnomefreak: ok..thanks..let me try what you suggested
[01:37] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, How can I change the default image viewer to gthumb?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> userone: if that doesnt work try /j #openoffice
[01:38] <mustard5> dushy_, I'm going to watch some tv...have fun :)
[01:38] <Hattori> in /etc/network/interfaces the right service is "wireless-essid" or "wireless_essid" ?
[01:38] <rubooo> my apt-get works again ... LOL
[01:38] <rubooo> ^^
[01:38] <rubooo> but my sound is just worst
[01:38] <rubooo> i have a nvidiaonboardsoundcard
[01:38] <kevor> rubooo: it's because the apt has super cow powers! :)
[01:38] <rubooo> kevor:lol
[01:39] <rubooo> but why is my sound not as good as on windows
[01:39] <hastesaver> dushy_, where are you from?
[01:39] <rubooo> maybe the driver?
[01:39] <kevor> rubooo: what exactly is "not as good"
[01:39] <Hattori> in /etc/network/interfaces the right service is "wireless-essid" or "wireless_essid" ?
[01:40] <Dutchy> is there a hotkey combination for anything similar to ctrl-alt-del in windows?
[01:40] <_jason> Dutchy: not by default, but you can set one up for applications > system tools > system monitor
[01:40] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: i dont know i was looking for something but didnt see anything
[01:40] <rubooo> kevor: the bass
[01:41] <kevor> rubooo: to get the equalizer doubleclick on the little speaker in the top right corner (if you user _U_buntu not _K_ubuntu :P)
[01:42] <Dutchy> _jason, ok thanks
[01:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell Dutchy about shortcuts
[01:42] <rubooo> kevor:yes but its full...
[01:42] <rubooo> kevor:fader on top
[01:43] <kevor> rubooo: i believe there is a bass boost options somewhere, just look around in the prefs, i'm sure it's there somewhere :P
[01:43] <phoenixbyrd> anyone know anything about xgl/compiz?
[01:43] <hastesaver> phoenixbyrd, #ubuntu-xgl
[01:43] <phoenixbyrd> thanx
[01:45] <eastgroup> hello
[01:45] <bking> who are you saying hello to?
[01:45] <eastgroup> i need picture viewer with thumbs that could support PNG photos
[01:45] <phoenixbyrd> f-spot?
[01:46] <eastgroup> phoenixbyrd , thanks
[01:47] <niklaus> i have netstat/systat  port open, how do i view the output ? what command fetches data from those ports
[01:47] <bking> does gdm-xnest run on ubuntu?
[01:47] <roniez> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[01:47] <roniez> tar: Child returned status 1
[01:47] <roniez> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[01:47] <roniez> wth...
[01:48] <_jason> roniez: what does 'file name_of_your_file' say?
[01:48] <martin_linuxtag> see mark shuttleworth now live at linuxtag http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/de/home/video/playlists.html
[01:49] <Hattori> i changed router ip from 192.168.2.1 to 192.168.0.1, so i changed in /etc/network/interfaces the address and gateway to 192.168.0.5 and 192.168.0.1. then i do ifdown wlan0 and ifup wlan0. but after few moments i get: "Error: Name or service not known". Anybo know how to fix?
[01:50] <jago25_98> Is there a way to detect monitor capabilities like plug and play so I can generate a modeline easily?
[01:50] <Hattori> obviously before it worked well
[01:50] <MacSlow> martin_linuxtag, thx for the webcast-url
[01:51] <AlmtyBob> err, my realvnc vnc viewer is saying the connection closed unexpectedly, while the crappy .NET vnc viewer works fine, realvnc's site says it creates a log in $home/.vnc, but I don't have the directory, could it be making a log somewhere else?
[01:52] <rausku> how do i enable bluetooth on ubuntu?
[01:52] <roniez> fluxbox-0.9.15.1.tar.gz
[01:52] <roniez> that is that _jason
[01:52] <holycow> !bluetooth
[01:52] <ubotu> [bluetooth]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[01:53] <AlmtyBob> ahhhh, there's no apt-get for lynx?
[01:53] <|lostbyte|> AlmtyBob: huh ?
[01:53] <hastesaver> roniez, no, type "file fluxbox-0.9.15.1.tar.gz" in the terminal and say what it reports
[01:55] <ome_> mmmm
[01:55] <ome_> can anyone help me with ftpd stuff
[01:57] <|lostbyte|> troubled: Ask some one will know..
[01:58] <AlmtyBob> hmm, odd that realvnc won't work properly but this freeware one I got will
[01:59] <troubled> Well I have Apache2 running, and a friend asked for some space....he doesnt really have much knowledge of linux but to be honest neither to do i...so i want to set up an ftpd so he can access his space and save his files..
[01:59] <troubled> So basically I would like to know how to configure and add users and such to the ftpd i have been told comes with Ubuntu
[01:59] <troubled> if there is one
[02:00] <Hattori> i changed router ip from 192.168.2.1 to 192.168.0.1, so i changed in /etc/network/interfaces the address and gateway to 192.168.0.5 and 192.168.0.1. then i do ifdown wlan0 and ifup wlan0. but after few moments i get: "Error: Name or service not known". My /etc/network/interfaces is here: http://pastebin.com/701658 Anybo know how to fix?
[02:00] <seanh> Argh! I have an install-fest going here with 3 new potential ubunteros, and we care being held back trying to get WMA files to play or convert! Is there any way?
[02:01] <Hobbsee> !wma
[02:01] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:02] <seanh> Hobbsee - I installed w32codecd from RestrictedFormats, it doesn't help!
[02:02] <Hobbsee> hmmm okay...
[02:02] <seanh> Hobbsee - could it be ffmpeg or something else from RestrictedFormats ?
[02:02] <Hobbsee> seanh: i'm not sure, i've never tried playing wmv's
[02:03] <seanh> Hpbbsee - not videos, WMA, music ripped by Windows Media Player
[02:04] <farous> i have a small lan of 3 pcs running ubuntu all acessing the net through a router. Can i put a cap on one of the pcs for the upload and download rate. Is there a tool firewall, network configuration by which i can change the maximum download and upload rate on a ubuntu  box
[02:04] <hastesaver> seanh, I have no trouble playing wmas; try getting (as you said) ffmpeg and everything else
[02:04] <Hattori> !dns
[02:04] <ubotu> Hattori: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:05] <seanh> hastesaver - do you know if different versions of WMA work or don't work?
[02:05] <hastesaver> seanh, do you have all of ffmpeg, libavcodec, libmad, ...? (I'm sure one of them is it.)
[02:05] <hastesaver> seanh, no, I don't know about that
[02:06] <seanh> hastesaver - no. I'm trying to test it in a live session first, and the machine hasn't that much RAM, but maybe I'll transfer the files to another machine for testing and see if that works
[02:06] <Hattori> where to specify the dns server?
[02:07] <holycow> system / admin / networking
[02:07] <Hattori> from console?
[02:08] <holycow> /etc/networking/interfaces
[02:08] <Hattori> mine is there: http://pastebin.com/701658
[02:08] <Hattori> what's missing for you?
[02:09] <AlmtyBob> well thank you all for your help tonight, I'm going to sleep 8/
[02:09] <AlmtyBob> way past my bed time
[02:10] <Groquick> hello
[02:10] <LinuxJones> Morning
[02:10] <eXistenZ> When the next version of ubuntu will be released?
[02:11] <holycow> sorry was playing along with fatboy slim
[02:11] <holycow> hehe
[02:11] <LinuxJones> eXistenZ: 1st week in June
[02:11] <|lostbyte|> june
[02:11] <Groquick> i'm sorry i'm french so my english is not so good but nobody can help me on #ubuntu-fr. I'm trying to use cedega with a 64 bits Linux, is it possible without a chroot ?
[02:12] <fiveiron> #linuxgamers
[02:12] <fiveiron> err
[02:12] <Groquick> thx, bye
[02:12] <Poker> i have wine...is there another windows emulator ?
[02:13] <Hattori> i changed router ip from 192.168.2.1 to 192.168.0.1, so i changed in /etc/network/interfaces the address and gateway to 192.168.0.5 and 192.168.0.1. then i do ifdown wlan0 and ifup wlan0. but after few moments i get: "Error: Name or service not known". My /etc/network/interfaces is here: http://pastebin.com/701658 Anybo know how to fix?
[02:13] <holycow> Hattori, not offhand, i'd haveto dig a bit, maybe someone else k nows offhand
[02:17] <gawen> does anyone know how I can load my pcmcia wifi card before networking in the boot progress ?
[02:18] <LinuxJones> Hattori: did you change the subnet mask to reflect the change of the ip address of your router ?
[02:19] <electrolinux> Hattori, looks closer at lines 23,24 : eth0 on line 23, eth1 on 24 !!
[02:19] <fiveiron> ubuntu runs SOOO much better on my hardware than XP
[02:19] <rpedro> !lilo
[02:19] <ubotu> rpedro: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:20] <farous> Hattori: To manage DNS entries, you can add, edit, or remove DNS names from the /etc/resolv.conf file
[02:20] <fiveiron> heck i enjoy just watching the screensavers...
[02:20] <Hattori> electrolinux: ya, i removed. now it's http://pastebin.com/701684
[02:20] <Hattori> but same error
[02:21] <farous> Hattori: check this too http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html#managing-dns-entries
[02:21] <Hattori> internet works, dns is ok, but that error shows up
[02:24] <electrolinux> Hattori: so your problem is either not having the error message, or knowing why it show up, essentially, yes ?
[02:24] <Poker> i have wine...is there another windows emulator ?
[02:24] <Hattori> k fixed. was the dns ;}
[02:24] <Hattori> thatnks
[02:25] <Hattori> it was "nameserver 192.168.2.1"
[02:25] <gawen> Poker > Cedega, vmware, boch ^^
[02:25] <Hattori> changed to "nameserver 192.168.0.1"
[02:25] <Hattori> and it's ok
[02:26] <monkeynut> can anyone help with some recent video playback 'issues'? mainly related to XviD..
[02:26] <thaweazl> does anyone know where the default files live when you create a new user? I would like to replace the default dot files for new home dir's
[02:27] <LinuxJones> thaweazl: /etc/skel/
[02:28] <Poker> gawen,  ty
[02:28] <monkeynut> some seem to have developed a diagonal "artefact", and play jerkier in full screen mode, in all players
[02:29] <zarephath_> I want to allow outside access from a specific ip(the one assigned by my ISP) in my hosts.allow file...I read the man page and still am at a loss on how to use the syntax to do this..anyone help me?
[02:29] <eastgroup> is there fast program to view psd files in fast way
[02:30] <No1Viking> I would like to encrypt a whole disk or a part of a disk, for example. Is there a good application for it with a GUI that works for Gnome somewhere?
[02:30] <thaweazl> linuxjones: tHANKS!
[02:30] <LinuxJones> thaweazl: have fun :)
[02:30] <salmiak> i got some weird problem...i got my root account activated, and sudo doesn't work :(
[02:31] <gawen> does anyone know how I can load my wifi card before networking in the boot progress ? pcmcia is always loading after networking, I tried to change the script order but it does nothing
[02:31] <zarephath_> May be because you enabled su?
[02:31] <green_earz> zarephath_: for remote access have a look at ssh, if you are behind a router port forward port 22 to the machine you one access on
[02:32] <Hobbsee> gawen: does the card use ndiswrapper, by any chance?
[02:32] <gawen> Hobbsee, no... it's an orinoco card
[02:32] <Hobbsee> oh ok.  i dont know then
[02:32] <salmiak> zarephath_, honestly, i haven't touched anything. How do i reunable it? either that, or how do i make it possible to start gui apps as root when i'm logged in with my normal user in X?
[02:33] <zarephath_> green_earz: Well what I am doing is setting up a mail server(axigen) and when I try connecting from another machine it denies access...I need to enable local access and outside access for my assigned ip...I already have port forwarding setup for 110 and 25
[02:33] <zarephath_> green_earz: In other words telnet hostname 25 is denied
[02:34] <zarephath_> salmiak: Ok what is it that you are trying to do that makes you think sudo isn't working?
[02:34] <Nihil85> hi! i have a problem with the ati driver. When i launch the installer it says that i have a different architecture (i686) and it cannot find a "x700" directory... But i have a pentium IV 2.66ghz and i always had a i386 architecture! what can i do?
[02:35] <zarephath_> Nihil85: Did you read the wiki on ATI setup?
[02:35] <salmiak> zarephath_, using sudo...ehm, for example 'sudo synaptic' and then entering the password SHOULD start synaptic faster than in 2 minutes (the time i waited)
[02:36] <zarephath_> salmiak: Depends on your machine I would guess....it takes about 20 to 30 seconds on my PC
[02:36] <zarephath_> salmiak: Same results using menu administration synaptic? It will prompt for passwd too
[02:36] <Nihil85> zarephath_:  i followed the italian wiki, but it doesn't show an error like this
[02:37] <green_earz> zarephath_: do you have a firewall on the machine that is blocking the remote access. and have you telnet into the mail server from your local lan that see if its accessible
[02:37] <salmiak> it prompts for password and won't start the app after i've typed my password, zarephath_
[02:37] <roniez> dammit... kdm and gdm isnt working to change to fluxbox. :(
[02:38] <zarephath_> green_earz: That is why I am stumped...I can ssh into said box..no firewall that I am aware of I can ping mail server box from other Ubuntu box etc
[02:39] <zarephath_> salmiak: I don't have any more ideas sorry... if this is a fresh install maybe reinstall if that won't take too long..
[02:39] <salmiak> ah, i have an idea...maybe my user isn't allowed to use sudo?
[02:39] <thaweazl> does anyone know where to set the default runlevel on an ubuntu server? I want to run at runlevel 3
[02:39] <green_earz> zarephath_: allso you mail server may be setup to only receive mail from your local lan. not from the wan
[02:40] <zarephath_> salmiak: That would be a new one on me...
[02:40] <mjr> thaweazl, the start of /etc/inittab
[02:40] <salmiak> hmmz...darn ;)
[02:40] <zarephath_> green_earz: Nope I setup the domain, listeners etc both for the router ip(forwarder) and also the external ip pointed to the ISP..
[02:41] <zarephath_> green_earz: BTW I can ping mail.mydomain.org so I know dns forwarding is working...
[02:41] <salmiak> zarephath_, ok...well, then, do you know how to allow my root account to start X-apps from gnome-terminal while X is logged in with my normal user?
[02:42] <mcerniak> jur
[02:43] <zarephath_> salmiak: Well in gnome you can use Alt+F2 and type gksu <program name> and it should let you run it with root privs..
[02:43] <zarephath_> From the term you would just sudo <program> & to run in background
[02:44] <green_earz> zarephath_: postfix is a very good mail server to setup, here is a howto for a postfix virtual host, on a debian install >http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/
[02:44] <salmiak> zarephath_, thanks for that tip about alt+f2 and gksu. Worked, i'll just have to get used to it, as sudo isn't working and i don't have time to reinstall the computer at the moment
[02:45] <zarephath_> salmiak: np...
[02:45] <zarephath_> green_earz: Thanks...I will look into it
[02:46] <green_earz> zarephath_: all the best
[02:48] <ootput> 'llo everyone (=
[02:48] <Th3Wh0> hiya
[02:48] <ootput> i'm interested in accessing an svn repo that I created while logged onto a university shell account. Do i need root privileges at the uni in order to allow connections from home to my uni svn repo?
[02:48] <ootput> Th3Wh0: hi mate
[02:48] <ootput> the folks at #svn appear to be inactive
[02:49] <salmiak> i solved the problem, zarephath_ . I wasn't in the sudoers list... :(
[02:49] <salmiak> isn't that weird?
[02:50] <Nihil85> hi! i have a problem with the ati driver. When i launch the installer it says that i have a different architecture (i686) and it cannot find a "x700" directory... But i have a pentium IV 2.66ghz and i always had a i386 architecture! what can i do?
[02:50] <PrimoTurbo> How do I configure Azureus so after a certain ratio it removes the torrent file?
[02:50] <Blissex> Nihil85: use the ATI drivers packaged for Ubuntu for example?
[02:50] <Blissex> PrimoTurbo: #Azureus probably...
[02:51] <zarephath_> salmiak: Kewl...didn't realize you were actually talking about "su" vs "sudo" otherwise I would've told you to check that :-)
[02:51] <_harm> Anyone know how i can use a proxy to connect to a ssh server?
[02:51] <salmiak> hehe ;D
[02:51] <Nihil85> Blissex: i used the drivers packaged from synaptic, those from the ati site, from the bash... i used everything
[02:52] <Blissex> Nihil85: then probably your card is not supported...
[02:52] <_harm> Nihil85 did u follow the wiki?
[02:52] <Blissex> Nihil85: but an X700 probably is.
[02:52] <_harm> !tell Blissex ati drivers
[02:52] <Blissex> Nihil85: check the ATI Wiki on #ATI's /topic
[02:52] <OrTigaS> how can config first user to have access in other partition drives(NTFS) as like root?
[02:52] <Nihil85> _harm:  i followed the italian wiki from www.wiki.ubuntu-it.org
[02:52] <Federico> hi, I loohin for people from Argentina..
[02:53] <_harm> sec nihil85 let me link u w. english
[02:53] <Nihil85> Blissex:  my card is supported
[02:53] <salmiak> but thanks for your help anyway, zarephath_  ;) now i don't have a reason to switch back to mandriva ;p
[02:53] <Mort_Cinder> Federico: im from argentina, but living in the UK
[02:54] <kalinka> I have a problem with WebHttrack,
[02:54] <_harm> Nihil85 > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29
[02:54] <xophEr> Does evdev work OK in dapper? xev doesnt recognize my thumb buttons (mx500)..
[02:54] <Nihil85> _harm: thanks
[02:54] <_harm> no problem
[02:54] <_harm> Anyone know how i can use a proxy to connect to a ssh server?
[02:54] <kalinka> I installed it and after its installation, I found that it has a problem opening the browser window.
[02:54] <kalinka> I have FireFoox 1.5 Installed on Ubuntu 5.10
[02:54] <Th3Wh0> Federico did you try at #ubuntu-es?
[02:55] <kalinka> can any one help me regarding THat?
[02:55] <alapzaj> how can i change the postfix  queue directory?
[02:55] <Federico> hi mort cinder..
[02:55] <eXistenZ> Has anyone got his 5.1 surround to work?
[02:55] <Mort_Cinder> hi federico :)
[02:55] <Federico> no i try now, thanks
[02:55] <OrTigaS> how can i config "first" user to have access in other partition drives(NTFS) as like root?
[02:55] <Th3Wh0> no hay de que
[02:56] <NikosGr> chat.google.com is for gaim?
[02:56] <Federico> mort no se como mandarte un privado
[02:57] <NikosGr> i cant conect to google chat
[02:57] <LinuxJones> OrTigaS: >> http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/system_administration_books/ubuntu_starter_guide/ch05.html
[02:57] <OrTigaS> okay thanks LinuxJones
[02:58] <LinuxJones> OrTigaS: there is quite a bit of stuff in that tutorial that you should not do so don't use it as any kind of official reference for other topics.
[02:59] <Federico> mort are you there?
[02:59] <OrTigaS> when i'm root i can access the NTFS file so... that thing i want to have access on the first user
[03:00] <salmiak> if i want to remove the evolution package, it prompts that it will remove ubuntu-desktop too...is it ok to continue? sounds like i'll destroy the system if i'll remove it
[03:00] <_jason> !ubuntu-desktop
[03:00] <ubotu> well, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading
[03:00] <dooglus> ubuntu-desktop is an empty package
[03:01] <Mort_Cinder> yep, i opened a dialog window to u
[03:01] <EnUm> hello
[03:01] <salmiak> dooglus, it just is there to...do what? nothing?
[03:02] <Mort_Cinder> salmiak: it has something to do with dependencies or something
[03:02] <rpedro> !grub
[03:02] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:03] <salmiak> ok, so it's perfectly OK to remove whichever package that has ubuntu-desktop as a dependency?
[03:03] <EnUm> i have the following problem:i have transformed a avi file into mpg format and then made out of it a dvd format with video_ts and audio_ts.then i have made the samt thing with another file.how can i noe but the both video_ts directories together?
[03:03] <EnUm> they have both the same file names,like x1.vob
[03:03] <Federico> hi, do you want speak spanish or english?
[03:04] <Mort_Cinder> salmiak: yes, i did i for evolution with no problems
[03:04] <Mort_Cinder> federico: i dont mind, spanish its ok
[03:04] <rpedro> !sata
[03:04] <ubotu> rpedro: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:04] <_jason> Federico: english here, you can speak spanish in #ubuntu-es
[03:05] <Federico> sorry _jason, that ok
[03:09] <ubuntu> ciao
[03:09] <rpedro> can someone help me with a problem with grub bootloader?
[03:09] <ubuntu> bootloader
[03:10] <Curtman> How do I stop services from running at startup permanently?  (So that they won't go back after I apt-get upgrade)
[03:10] <ubuntu> i don't now...
[03:10] <Senilix> Curtman: remove the package? :)
[03:11] <kevor> don't reboot ;)
[03:11] <Hexidigital> oh, Lord... forgive me, for I have sinned... I have used Microsoft Windows for over one day on my new laptop... But I swear, once this fresh Ubuntu installation is complete, I will remain faithful
[03:11] <Curtman> Senilix: There has to be a better way.. For example, I never asked for mdadm to be installed in the first place, and every time I remove it, it comes back next upgrade.
[03:11] <kevor> Hexidigital: we don't mind, as long as you have seen the errors of you ways
[03:12] <Senilix> well, i don't know..
[03:12] <Curtman> :(
[03:12] <Hexidigital> kevor, what is my pennance?... 3 Hail Mary's, 2 shots of Jager, and....?
[03:12] <rpedro> grub is installed on the mbr of first hdd, and when booting it boots from another linux installation on a sata disk (sda), but if I use the dapped cd and select 'boot from hardisk' option it boots ok (from /dev/hdb)
[03:12] <Hexidigital> :)
[03:12] <kevor> Hexidigital: give a little support on this channel? :P
[03:13] <Hexidigital> kevor, i do my best (with what i know)
[03:13] <kevor> Hexidigital: actually linux is better for laptops because it uses less CPU when idle ;)
[03:13] <rpedro> I used lilo before with kubuntu 5.10 on same partition with no problem...
[03:13] <Nihil85> hi! i've installed the ATI drivers (with a lot of difficulties) and now that i did reboot, when i run ati configuration manager, it says that "Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 extension" so the panel is useless. what can i do?
[03:14] <Hexidigital> kevor, the only thing (that was) holding me back, was my wireless chipset... (i've heard stories on both sides about compatability)
[03:14] <nmhbm> So I was trying out the live disc and got this msg when the ubuntu logo comes up, guess it's just before going into X, anyway: Failed to staret the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly . Would uoi like to view the Xserver output to diagnose the problem?, I ofc pressed yes and did just get info about the OS, what should I do?
[03:15] <Hexidigital> nmhbm, try "start gdm" or "startx", and let us know what it says
[03:15] <FlameSphere> whats the site for the restricted music formats?
[03:15] <nmhbm> Hexidigital, okay, eh, I have to start the install over again but it won't take long, comes online with the phone in a min :)
[03:15] <Hexidigital> ubotu, tell FlameSphere about mp3
[03:16] <FlameSphere> Hexidigital, thanks, and nice name
[03:16] <Hexidigital> Jowi, heya bud
[03:16] <Jowi> Hey :)
[03:16] <Hexidigital> thx, FlameSphere
[03:16] <Jowi> anyone knows where to change default charset from ANSI to UTF-8?
[03:17] <linux_galore> hmm
[03:18] <nmhbm> Hexidigital, I got a radeon x700, heard something about there are no drivers to it yet, could that be true?
[03:18] <linux_galore> Jowi: in the application usually
[03:18] <Jowi> linux_galore: yeah, problem is, not all apps has got that option.
[03:18] <Hexidigital> nmhbm, yes, that is possible... ATI cards are very picky about what OS they are used with...
[03:18] <nmhbm> damn
[03:19] <linux_galore> Jowi: then you end up having to hack the text conf file
[03:19] <Mort_Cinder> can i ask an xgl/compiz related question here?
[03:19] <nmhbm> what to do if so?
[03:19] <Hexidigital> nmhbm, Linux does not like ATI
[03:19] <Jowi> linux_galore: nah, there must be a dpkg-reconfigure for this one
[03:20] <nmhbm> Hexidigital, how come? :)
[03:20] <Hexidigital> Mort_Cinder, you can, but your best bet would be to ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:20] <Nihil85> hi! i've installed the ATI drivers (with a lot of difficulties) and now that i did reboot, when i run ati configuration manager, it says that "Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 extension" so the panel is useless. what can i do?
[03:20] <animato> hello, i'm trying to extact wav off a cd with sound juicer, and i get the following error "sound juicer could not extract that cd, reason : could not link pipeline"
[03:20] <animato> what do i do?
[03:20] <nmhbm> Hexidigital, what should I do about it then?
[03:20] <Mort_Cinder> Hexidigital, ok i'll try there thanx
[03:20] <Hexidigital> nmhbm, honestly, i dont know... i know nVidia works the best (out of box) with some simple configs
[03:20] <Hexidigital> Mort_Cinder, np
[03:21] <nmhbm> Hexidigital, okay, thanks anyway
[03:21] <juwita> hello
[03:21] <Hexidigital> juwita, hello
[03:21] <linux_galore> Jowi: just run the app as a user then hack the ~/.gnome/appname  file
[03:22] <linux_galore> some of the sis cheap chipsets work ok
[03:22] <Jowi> linux_galore: i refuse that. there must be a system wide setting laying around in /etc somewhere :)
[03:22] <linux_galore> Jowi: not really
[03:23] <linux_galore> Jowi: Linux is modular
[03:23] <linux_galore> Jowi: there is a general system font setting but thats usually for when X isnt running
[03:24] <Jowi> linux_galore: yeah. hmm... another option would be to disable that charset in the kernel itself.
[03:25] <Hexidigital> Jowi, wont' that "break" things?
[03:25] <linux_galore> Jowi: also depends on how the apps is compiled in some cases
[03:25] <Jowi> Hexidigital: nope, you set another charset as default instead of this ANSI that I never had in the first place with other kernels
[03:25] <Hexidigital> ah
[03:26] <Jowi> hmm, "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't even list the damn ansi thing
[03:26] <linux_galore> I had a gnome app with a really bad font setup, only way to fix it was edit the source code
[03:27] <steve_343> hi all
[03:27] <Hexidigital> steve_343, hi
[03:27] <Jowi> hi steve_343
[03:28] <steve_343> where can i go to see forums of previously resolved problems?
[03:28] <Hexidigital> www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:28] <Hexidigital> steve_343,  ^^
[03:28] <steve_343> thanks :)
[03:28] <Hexidigital> steve_343, np
[03:29] <nagi> hello.
[03:29] <Hexidigital> nagi, hello
[03:29] <nagi> h.a.y.?
[03:29] <Jowi> steve_343: https://wiki.ubuntulinux.com also have some goodies
[03:30] <Jowi> !locales
[03:30] <ubotu> somebody said locales was at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LocaleConf
[03:32] <Jowi> linux_galore: found it: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf"
[03:32] <ompaul> steve_343, there is also the https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[03:33] <_Diane> good morning, does anyone have any familiarity w/ installing xampp?
[03:33] <steve_343> linux is scary stuff
[03:34] <Mort_Cinder> steve_343: it gets better, trust me
[03:35] <steve_343> I'm hoping it will I want to learn to eventually program :S
[03:35] <ubuntu_> I need the restricted music site one more time
[03:35] <_Diane> maybe a basic question.....when i download something, it goes into my download folder
[03:35] <[blah] > how can I display my system info?
[03:36] <OmniColos> Hexidigital, I had to edit the iftab to put the wifi on wlan0
[03:36] <_jason> [blah] : what info in particular?
[03:36] <zorglu1> yep kde4+ubuntu will be real nice for widespread adoption
[03:36] <_Diane> how do i extract them when i can't log in as root
[03:36] <pablo> hi!
[03:36] <[blah] > _jason, cpu type, sse/sse2 etc
[03:36] <ubuntu_> I need the restricted music site one more time. sorry
[03:36] <pablo> im trying to do: cat file.name.of.your.boot.floppy.zdsk > /dev/hda
[03:36] <pablo> i booted from ubuntu live cd
[03:36] <Jowi> !tell ubuntu_ about mp3
[03:36] <pablo> but i have no permision over hda
[03:36] <ubuntu_> Can you get wine on live cd
[03:37] <pablo> how can i solve this?
[03:37] <[blah] > basically i wanna get cpuinfo
[03:37] <Hexidigital> OmniColos, what laptop / chipset?
[03:37] <_jason> [blah] : cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:37] <[blah] > thanx
[03:37] <ubuntu_> Can you get wine on live cd
[03:37] <_jason> [blah] : you could also look into 'lshw' command
[03:38] <ompaul> steve_343, I would be inclined to disagree with you, it is like a company with all the work going on in the grounds and you can wander around to anyone and engage with them, the access is high, however if you walk up to someone and expect them to deal with you without first discovering the protocols of engagement then you may consider it scarey, we have tonnes of information, on almost any aspect of it, in the Ubuntu case it is rather distributed an
[03:38] <ompaul> d high volume. If you as for specific help you will get it, if you define what you want to achieve as an end result you will get a much better assistance :-) enjoy
[03:38] <hastesaver> huh? My clock suddenly started showing UTC time all by itself!
[03:38] <[blah] > _jason,  Is there anyway to know if my cpu is 775, socket-a, socket-t etc?
[03:39] <Jowi> pablo: you can mount hda1 with the umask=000 option
[03:39] <ompaul> hastesaver, depends on how you installed Ubuntu, and if you ran that popular but very broken option between boots of Ubuntu it can be distrubing
[03:39] <steve_343> Is there a definitive linux documentation tho?
[03:40] <hastesaver> ompaul, what option is that?
[03:40] <rdt21> I'm looking for a website that gathers basic software for Ubuntu beyond the initial install. But I can't remember the name of it and so far I haven't found it with Google.
[03:40] <_Diane> ompaul, i want to extract xampp and am told i don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/etc/opt"
[03:41] <pablo> Jowi: should y do this?: sudo mount /hda1 /tmp umask=000 ?
[03:41] <ompaul> steve_343, for Ubuntu I would say start with clicking on the little "life saver" icon on the top panel bar, but definitive it is not possible, even if there was something for one of those other platforms would it have changed since 2001 and now? :-)
[03:41] <rdt21> Ah, never mind. It is EasyUbuntu and was listed in the Wikipedia entry for Ubuntu. Never mind.
[03:41] <hastesaver> steve_343, the "man" pages are the oldest :)
[03:41] <gsuveg> its possible to install non-static opera under dapper ?
[03:41] <Mort_Cinder> rdt21: automatix does a similar job
[03:41] <Jowi> pablo: or "sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/mountpoint"
[03:42] <_Diane> another question, if i have 2 hard drives, can i make a "dual boot" w/ ubuntu on one hard drive and windows on the other?
[03:42] <_Diane> if so, how do I do that?
[03:42] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: only the static works for me
[03:42] <Jowi> pablo: that will give you write permission for the drive
[03:42] <steve_343> with a boot loader like gub
[03:42] <ompaul> hastesaver, that would be the operating system that I don't run on any of my machines or wifes computers which are all x86/amd style
[03:42] <rdt21> Mort: I'll check it out, thanks.
[03:42] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: but the fonts are insane uglys :((
[03:42] <steve_343> grub even
[03:42] <kbrooks> rdt21: um
[03:43] <kbrooks> rdt21: where was EU listed in that entry?
[03:43] <steve_343> ok chears for the help guys i may be back :)
[03:43] <codo> hello , i am installing drake
[03:43] <codo> i wanted to resume dpkg
[03:43] <codo> how to do that ?
[03:43] <hastesaver> ompaul, oh, no; I'm only using Ubuntu. It's probably a KDE bug (it was my kde clock (klock?) that went crazy)
[03:43] <kbrooks> uh...
[03:43] <codo> becuase while dist-upgrading soemthing happened, and it halted
[03:43] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: in the latest weekly they are quite good for me
[03:43] <codo> how to resume ?
[03:43] <Jowi> gonna reboot to see if the settings stick. brb
[03:43] <kbrooks> "Easy Ubuntu Application - installation of useful programs for beginners - not recommended by Ubuntu"
[03:44] <codo> dpkg -reconfigure etc ?
[03:44] <_Diane> am i invisible here?
[03:44] <kbrooks> what does that mean?
[03:44] <rdt21> kbrooks: At the bottom under "Unofficial online resources".
[03:44] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: from opera desktop blog ??
[03:44] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: yep
[03:44] <kbrooks> rdt21: yes, i'm there
[03:44] <ompaul> _Diane, I don't know the answer to that, where are you looking at that information, if I can see the package you are trying to use maybe I can be of some assistance
[03:44] <kbrooks> _Diane: no
[03:44] <codo> dpkg help please
[03:44] <kbrooks> codo
[03:44] <kbrooks> !tell codo about ask
[03:44] <rdt21> kbrooks: "Easy Ubuntu Application - installation of useful programs for beginners - not recommended by Ubuntu"
[03:44] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: build 256 ?
[03:44] <ompaul> codo, dpkg -l lists stuff, can you be more specific?
[03:45] <_Diane> i downloaded xampp from apachefriends...it's a lampp server info.
[03:45] <kbrooks> rdt21: what does "not recommended by Ubuntu" mean?
[03:45] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: yep
[03:45] <PrimoTurbo> Where do I use moz_disable_pango=1 to disable pango for firefox and to speed it up?
[03:45] <codo> hmm
[03:45] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: get the dapper version
[03:45] <gsuveg> its ugly for me :(
[03:45] <_Diane> when i do -l it tells me it's been downloaded to my downloads, but i can't do anything else because i can't log in as root
[03:46] <rdt21> kbrooks: Damned if I know. I'm a brand new Ubuntu/Linux user. I suspect it hasn't been officially sanctioned.
[03:46] <pablo> Jowi: says hda1 doesnt exist
[03:46] <Mort_Cinder> gsugev: u running breezy or dapper?
[03:46] <kbrooks> rdt21: well, it would be stupid for them to. :-)
[03:46] <_Diane> when i go to a terminal and enter sudo or su it won't take my password
[03:46] <pablo> i tried to cfdisk but ends with fatal error
[03:46] <_Diane> i just want to untar the file and install the server
[03:46] <PrimoTurbo> when I add the command firefox %u moz_disable_pango=1 and then open firefox it opens google with a search results for moz_disable_pango=1 where do I input this command then to disable pango, it's not in about:config either. Any ideas? thanks.
[03:46] <ompaul> kbrooks, take it up with wikipedia, perhaps it not being in the Ubuntu release would be a kinder way of saying it, and require explaination as to why it is not there ... etc etc etc and offtopic for here
[03:47] <rdt21> I'm bookmarking it for later when I install Ubuntu again someday.
[03:47] <ompaul> kbrooks, :)_
[03:47] <codo> kbrooks: i was doing dist-upgrade to dapper drake
[03:47] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: what fonts are u installed ?
[03:47] <codo> when it suddenly gnome-terminal i was using crashed
[03:47] <avalost> anyone have any ideas as to when flash 8 will be available for linux?
[03:47] <codo> so how to restart the whole install process again ?
[03:47] <ompaul> rdt21, if your waiting more than a day or two then I suggest you check back as things change fast in this ubuntu
[03:47] <rdt21> I've got one other nagging question. When I last installed Ubuntu on my second hard drive Windows XP was listed at the bottom of my GRUB menu. Anyone know how to change the order or the default item in that list? I couldn't get grub-set-default to do anything.
[03:48] <pablo> i need to cat romimage > dev/hda (booted from ubuntu live cd) but have no permison over hda drive
[03:48] <nagi> avalost, is dificult to say a date
[03:48] <pablo> Jowi: any other idea?
[03:48] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: dunno. i install the ones from automatix before upgrading.
[03:48] <ompaul> !automatix
[03:48] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:48] <codo> !dpkg
[03:48] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, codo
[03:48] <pablo> Jowi: i dont konw wat ff does the hd have
[03:48] <kbrooks> ompaul: thanks :P
[03:48] <daryl> Good morning everyone.
[03:48] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: thx anyway ;)
[03:48] <codo> man, i cant open with firefox too! its screwed up here :9
[03:48] <pablo> Jowi: ff= fs= filesystem sorry
[03:49] <codo> :(
[03:49] <ompaul> codo, with an install CD :-) sorry your not specific enough
[03:49] <daryl> Is this the right channel to ask a question about WoW and Wine?
[03:49] <rdt21> !easyubuntu
[03:49] <_Diane> ompaul why can't i log in as su, when i enter my password, i get an authentication failed message
[03:49] <codo> ompaul: i did upgrade from repos over net!
[03:49] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: try changing the fonts in opera to bitstream vera serif. looks much better
[03:49] <ompaul> !root
[03:49] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:49] <ompaul> _Diane, ^^^^^ read that
[03:49] <baizon> hi
[03:49] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: lemmese
[03:49] <Neter> hey, hi everybody, can't anyone say me how to upgrade to kernel 2.6.16 trought apt-get?
[03:50] <ompaul> !tell codo about upgrade
[03:50] <baizon> how can i change from the prism54 driver to the ndiswrapper?
[03:50] <ompaul> codo, read that message from the bot thanks
[03:50] <codo> ompaul: i know that it is dist-upgrade
[03:50] <Neter> my source list is to 2.6.12
[03:51] <Mort_Cinder> gsuveg: the interface ones
[03:51] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: yes. right. thanks
[03:51] <ompaul> codo, so you change s/hoary/badger/dapper/g (One generation jump at at time) and then you >>sudo apt-get update<< and then do the dist-upgrade, if your moving please take the conversation to #ubuntu+1 that is the dapper channel
[03:51] <baizon> how can i change from the prism54 driver to the ndiswrapper (pci)?
[03:52] <daryl> I just compiled wine w/the WoW patch, and when I try to run Wine by itself, it says: wine --version
[03:52] <daryl> grr mt
[03:52] <daryl> I just compiled wine w/the WoW patch, and when I try to run Wine by itself, it says: bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[03:52] <codo> ompaul: thanks a lot!
[03:52] <codo> well i got soln to my problem, had to use -f option thats it.
[03:52] <ompaul> codo, enjoy :-)
[03:53] <ompaul> codo, hmm that is not what we expect, however your now happy
[03:53] <codo> ompaul: ;)
[03:53] <ompaul> !enter
[03:53] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[03:53] <daryl> hehe
[03:53] <codo> hah haha
[03:53] <gcj> hi all, after the last set of X updates, I can't open the Gnome Applications menu any more, can anyone help? (it flashes up, then immediately reduces to a tiny square with no icons)
[03:54] <codo> ompaul: are you with ubuntu-in group ?
[03:54] <ompaul> codo, don't understand that question
[03:55] <codo> ompaul: there is an indian ubuntu group, i hear
[03:55] <daryl> Does someone have a moment to help me with a Wine/World of Warcraft Question?
[03:55] <ompaul> codo, #ubuntu-in maybe the irc channel for them, no I am not in that part of the planet
[03:55] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> when i will install ubuntu, apart from the drivers what r the basic i need to install with it ?
[03:55] <codo> ompaul: ewww, arent you indian :P ?
[03:56] <ompaul> codo, no, not at all :-)
[03:56] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> ok, i am new to it, but i need to know wassup
[03:56] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> please guys
[03:56] <codo> ompaul: well your name sounded so. Pardon my ignorance ;)
[03:57] <ompaul> p_a_t_r_i_c_k, slow up, there are 700+ here, and you want to get a disk from download section on www.ubuntu.com
[03:57] <Mort_Cinder> p_a_t_r_i_c_k: just install the cd
[03:57] <kimrhh> hi, has anybody in here had any luck installing acroread on ubuntu breezy ?
[03:57] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> okie
[03:57] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> thnks
[03:57] <Capilla> Ola?
[03:57] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> i heard about compiling the watever
[03:57] <Capilla> espaol?
[03:58] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> well, i hope that i can get help with all that
[03:58] <ompaul> !es
[03:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:58] <avalost> Capilla: #ubuntu-es
[03:58] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> btw, where can i get help ?
[03:58] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> to compile and whatnot ?
[03:58] <avalost> p_a_t_r_i_c_k: here
[03:58] <ompaul> !tell kimrhh about multiverse
[03:58] <ompaul> kimrhh, there is a native package for it, however you need to attach multiverse for it.
[03:58] <avalost> p_a_t_r_i_c_k: you won't need to compile anything on a fresh install
[03:59] <kimrhh> ompaul: ok
[03:59] <ompaul> kimrhh, try evince it might help you, it is for reading that type of doc
[03:59] <pianoboy3333> Is there a way to get the packages that I needed to build audacity beta? I'm trying to write a howto.
[03:59] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> well, i mean on the softwares eventually
[03:59] <avalost> the only things you may opt to compile are things not in the package list or specialty items
[03:59] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> i will actually install it and see wassup
[03:59] <gcj> hi all, after the last set of X updates, I can't open the Gnome Applications menu any more, can anyone help?
[03:59] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> thnks anyway
[03:59] <avalost> ubuntu has over 15,000 packages most likely you just need to apt-get it
[03:59] <ompaul> pianoboy3333, to do that kind of stuff I suggest that you join #ubuntu-motu they may help you more than asking here :)
[03:59] <pianoboy3333> ok
[03:59] <kimrhh> ompaul: I have multiverse, but there's no acroread package
[04:00] <ompaul> kimrhh,  version ?
[04:00] <Mort_Cinder> p_a_t_r_i_c_k: most programs dont need compiling, its just clicking
[04:00] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> okie
[04:00] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> cool
[04:00] <kimrhh> ompaul: only acroread-debian-files
[04:00] <kimrhh> ompaul: version of ?
[04:01] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> i heard that ppl talked about packages
[04:01] <ompaul> kimrhh, ubuntu - apt-cache policy acroread Candidate: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1  500 http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages
[04:01] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> i was just thinking that it would have been crucial to have a package installed aswell
[04:01] <gsuveg> Mort_Cinder: cool. new tray icon for opera ;)
[04:02] <ompaul> p_a_t_r_i_c_k, it has almost anything you want, it has office software browsers, email, im, compilers, games multimedia and so on
[04:02] <ompaul> p_a_t_r_i_c_k, packages.ubuntu.com have a look in there under breezy
[04:02] <any> Hi
[04:03] <p_a_t_r_i_c_k> thnks
[04:03] <serp> why doesn't gnome terminal accept alt+leftarrow?
[04:03] <raboof> hi. i'm trying to install ubuntu (6beta2) to an external usb drive using http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811
[04:04] <Jowi> raboof: for dapper, /join #ubuntu+1
[04:04] <ompaul> raboof, that matter is for the dapper irc channel #ubuntu+1
[04:04] <raboof> ok, thanks
[04:04] <any> When I boot my computer with a sdcard in the reader the card is working fine, but if I remove it and, then, I replace it in the reader my card isn't found.
[04:04] <_Diane> ompaul thanks for that link, i found my answer and am untarring the file right now.
[04:05] <arcade> Hmm... driver support for Philips SPC900NC web camera in ubuntu? (5/11) ?
[04:05] <raboof> ah, i see now, the topic scrolled off :)
[04:05] <arcade> That is, the driver support is lacking, but what do I need to get it? :)
[04:07] <ompaul> arcade, to kick philips for it, it is their fault that they do not make it available for your platform of choice, :-) if enough people complain they have to move, if everyone says nothing then they get away with it, there  is a link here that _may_ help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam
[04:07] <simonpca> plop
[04:07] <arcade> ompaul: Oh, I've already fired off an email kicking philips for it. ;)
[04:07] <Jowi> arcade: go to http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ and follow the instructions. you should be able to see which driver you need for that camera :)
[04:07] <arcade> ompaul: That is routine when I buy hardware where the manufacturer doesn't provide drivers. :D
[04:07] <ompaul> _Diane, what is bugging me is what is that actual software and its job?
[04:07] <serp> how do I change the default character encoding in Gnome Terminal?
[04:08] <ompaul> arcade, I only buy supported
[04:08] <ompaul> any, you need to umount it first not just unplug it, this is done on the desktop by right click and umount
[04:08] <xx5> hello everybody. i have installed ubuntu 6.06 beta 2. i use a medion 7134 tv card. but there is no sound when i watch tv. all other sound is working. anyone an idea?
[04:08] <arcade> ompaul: My local store didn't have any supported cam in stock.
[04:08] <_Diane> ompaul it's a lampp installation for apache, mysql, perl and php
[04:09] <arcade> ompaul: And my girlfriend would get _nasty_ if I didn't manage to get hold of a webcam today
[04:09] <arcade> ;)
[04:09] <arcade> ompaul: Not getting it to _work_ on the other hand, she won't be kicking me for _that_ .. so ;D
[04:11] <serp> how do I change locale?
[04:11] <arcade> Added: deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main
[04:11] <eXistenZ> How can I change my default image viewer from "image viewer" to gThumb?
[04:11] <arcade> .. but I apt-get update prints 'Ign' when blognus.free.fr is mentioned.. I'm guessing that means 'ignore' .
[04:12] <daryl> Does someone have a moment to help me with a Wine/World of Warcraft Question?
[04:12] <daryl> I'm getting a response that I couldn't find in the HowTos
[04:14] <daryl> Anyone?
[04:14] <Jowi> eXistenZ: "image viewer" is the name for gthumb
[04:14] <_Diane> ompaul thanks for all your help. i gotta go right now.
[04:15] <eXistenZ> Jowi, Do you recommend a better image viewer?
[04:16] <arcade> Ah.. damn.. no 64bits packages .. hmm .. is it possible to use 32bit packages with ubuntu 64bits?
[04:16] <Jowi> eXistenZ: depends on your needs really. eog (eye of gnome) is simple. gtksee is a clone of ACDSee
[04:16] <Talisker> http
[04:16] <Talisker> porn
[04:17] <linux_galore> arcade: yes
[04:17] <Talisker> http porn
[04:17] <arcade> linux_galore: How do I get apt to find them? :)
[04:17] <daryl> Excuse me, I'm new to Linux, and having a problem compiling/installing Wine for World of Warcraft.  Does someone have a moment?
[04:17] <arcade> deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main   << reports 404 NOT FOUND, which I guess is because it tries to find 64 bits packages.
[04:17] <linux_galore> arcade: edit your sources.conf file
[04:18] <linux_galore> arcade: at the moment ti just points apt to the 64 bit packages
[04:18] <arcade> Hmm .. sources.conf .. hmm
[04:18] <Jowi> daryl: you might get better response in here if you tell what the exact problem is.
[04:19] <daryl> Thanks Jowi, I am unfamiliar with the format of the chat room.
[04:19] <daryl> I just compiled wine w/the WoW patch, and when I try to run Wine by itself, it says: bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[04:19] <Jowi> !wow
[04:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[04:19] <arcade> linux_galore: do you mean apt.conf ?
[04:19] <linux_galore> .. /etc/apt/sources.conf
[04:19] <arcade> linux_galore: I don't hae that file, nor a manpage for that file .
[04:20] <arcade> linux_galore: But I do have a manpage for apt.conf, which talks about Architecture ..
[04:20] <daryl> !wow
[04:20] <ubotu> it has been said that wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[04:20] <RandolphCarter> Cedega is probably your best bet for getting WoW running
[04:20] <daryl> ah thanks, I read those, and thats who I got to where i am
[04:20] <daryl> oh?
[04:21] <daryl> what about the wine that i'm working with, why is it giving me this error message?
[04:21] <linux_galore> sorry /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:21] <RandolphCarter> daryl: I'd read those wikis linked from ubotu
[04:22] <linux_galore> arcade: its a simple text file
[04:22] <BSA> hi again
[04:22] <arcade> linux_galore: Uhm, I know. ;)  I'm trying to find out how to configure the $(ARCH) thing now. :)
[04:23] <linux_galore> arcade: only thing you really need is the 32 bit version of firefox
[04:23] <arcade> ahh, there.:D
[04:23] <arrick1> hey guys what is the command for checking what hd are hooked to your system, mounted and unmounted?
[04:23] <daryl> RandolphCarter.  Forgive me, I was following the wikis.  And when I was following them, it gave me a error not described.  So I searched all the forums, and couldn't find an answer.  so thats why I was asking why Wine says.  bash: cd: /home/daryl/desktop: No Such File or directory.  "Desktop" should be capitalized.  but for some reason its looking in the wrong spot
[04:23] <arcade> linux_galore: No, I really need to get the webcam-detection-thingie to work, and they haven't compiled it for 64bits, it's on some non-official site.
[04:24] <RandolphCarter> daryl: have you pasted all the output up until that error anywhere?
[04:24] <linux_galore> arcade: I just download the tar.ball from the mozilla home page and unpacked it in /usr/lib and created a link to /usr/local/bin  to the firefox binary
[04:24] <daryl> um sure..
[04:24] <RandolphCarter> I guess the easiest way to fix it would be to ln -s Desktop desktop
[04:24] <daryl> you want me to pasge that in here Randolph?
[04:24] <arcade> linux_galore: I'm not interested in firefox. :)
[04:24] <RandolphCarter> but that's an ugly hack ^_^
[04:25] <daryl> hahah
[04:25] <daryl> its all good
[04:25] <linux_galore> arcade: just compile the app then
[04:25] <linux_galore> arcade: download the source and compile it, no biggie
[04:26] <BSA> ok when i click on system>administration>networking it tells me its loading then it does nothing
[04:26] <daryl> Randolph, would renaming Desktop cause anything else a problem?
[04:26] <arcade> linux_galore: What I probably should do is just fetch the kernel sources and patch'em with the proper usb drivers for the webcam.
[04:26] <RandolphCarter> daryl: I wouldn't rename desktop - could you paste all the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[04:26] <BSA> coupled with a warning "could not look up the internet address for . "
[04:27] <BSA> at my login
[04:27] <daryl> Randolph, sure.  let me clean it up first though.  or do you want me to leave it exactly as it is?
[04:27] <arcade> Problem with compiling for ubuntu for me is that the gcc 4 vs gcc 3 thing is confusing the hell out of me. ;)
[04:27] <RandolphCarter> daryl: better paste it as it is I guess :)
[04:27] <daryl> ok.  i'll go do it now
[04:28] <ITSa341> Hey, I have a p4 with ht  do I want to use the 686 smp kernel or standard 686?
[04:28] <arcade> linux_galore: Last time I _used_ to compile things, I was using gcc 2.95 on Solaris .. time has been moving a tad too fast for me ;)
[04:29] <nagi> bye.
[04:30] <daryl> Randolph, I just posted it under user name daryl256
[04:30] <babo> Does anyone know where ubuntu stores it's files icons ? I want to use them for a webpage ...
[04:31] <daryl> Randolph: I wasn't able to post all of the information, I hope thats enough.
[04:31] <RandolphCarter> daryl: ahh, thanks, I'll just check it
[04:33] <RandolphCarter> daryl: hmm, tried './wine' ?
[04:33] <daryl> nope, let me try
[04:33] <daryl> randolph, that was interesting.
[04:34] <daryl> do i normally need to type ./wine?
[04:34] <daryl> instead of just wine?
[04:34] <cg> how to ls and sort by file name?
[04:34] <RandolphCarter> daryl: because GNU/Linux is generally safe, secure and stuff, it never just assumes you want to run a file in the current path
[04:35] <daryl> Randoph, ok let me try it now then.  thank ou so very much.  : )
[04:35] <RandolphCarter> daryl: otherwise, somebody could just give you a cd with a trojanned 'ls' or something.  if something's in the current path, you need to ./ it :)
[04:35] <RandolphCarter> np's
[04:35] <daryl> why are your messages in red, and some in black? is that private tells?
[04:36] <RandolphCarter> xchat automagically highlights lines with your name in :)
[04:36] <daryl> ah cool : )
[04:36] <we3za> hi all
[04:36] <muep> hi
[04:37] <we3za> how are you?
[04:37] <we3za> i;m noob in ubuntu
[04:37] <we3za> and linux
[04:37] <we3za> could someone plese help me
[04:37] <we3za> to install new firefox
[04:38] <we3za> i've download it intoo my desktop
[04:38] <Jowi> !firefox
[04:38] <_jason> !enter
[04:38] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[04:38] <we3za> but i cant insttal it
[04:38] <Jowi> !firefox1.5
[04:38] <we3za> sorry
[04:38] <daryl> Randolph, I think i made one other mistake, I extracted wine-o.9.6 to my desktop, before starting the compile and install.  did i do something wrong there?
[04:38] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:38] <_jason> we3za: you are using breezy badger?
[04:38] <cg> we3za: it's easy
[04:38] <we3za> i'm not sure
[04:38] <_jason> we3za: open a terminal and type 'lsb_release -c' without the quotes
[04:39] <cg> goto the wiki and search firefox
[04:39] <RandolphCarter> daryl: that shouldn't really affect it, it may've been something to do with the configure script
[04:39] <[blah] > is there anyway of finding out what type of socket my cpu is without openning it up?
[04:39] <hastesaver> we3za, don't do that
[04:39] <hastesaver> !tell we3za about firefox1.5
[04:39] <zielony> 4000 MB is enough for dapper ?
[04:39] <_jason> zielony: /should/ be
[04:39] <we3za> yes
[04:40] <we3za> breezy badger
[04:40] <we3za> thank you
[04:40] <daryl> I just got the wine command to work doing: daryl@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ ./wine-0.9.6/wine MozillaControl1712.exe
[04:40] <Jowi> zielony: 3gb is minimum for a normal install. i would recommend 5-6gb to be on the safe side since you probably are gonna install alot of other things in the future.
[04:40] <_jason> we3za: ok, then the guide hastesaver is telling you about will let you install firefox1.5 from firefox's site.  But if I were you I would just wait 3 weeks for dapper drake to be released.  In dapper, the firefox is 1.5
[04:40] <MisterN> Jowi: he ran away.
[04:40] <Curtman> Is there a utility like 'top' that tells you what processes are using disk I/O?  Something is doing a lot of IO, and I can't figure out what.  It's not updatedb, that's about all I know of that ever does this. :(
[04:40] <daryl> RandolphCarter, do I always have to specify that wine is in that folder on my desktop?
[04:41] <Jowi> MisterN: crap. all that typing for nothing :P
[04:41] <RandolphCarter> daryl: I can't be sure without knowing exactly what you did when you were compiling it :/
[04:41] <MisterN> Jowi: :)
[04:41] <daryl> RandolphCarter, I can tell you that
[04:41] <MisterN> and i'm doing du -hs /* for nothing
[04:41] <RandolphCarter> daryl: you did do a 'make install' too?
[04:41] <hastesaver> cg doesn't ls sort by name by default?
[04:41] <we3za> thanks a lot jasonn
[04:41] <DBO> daryl, just symlink your wine binary to /usr/bin
[04:41] <daryl> RandolphCarter, yes i did
[04:42] <daryl> symlink?
[04:42] <arrick1> morning dbernar1
[04:42] <arrick1> morning DBO
[04:42] <RandolphCarter> hmm :/ yeah, if it's left it in the desktop, probably best to link it
[04:42] <DBO> daryl, man ln
[04:42] <daryl> DBO: what do you mean by symlink?
[04:42] <RandolphCarter> (or add the wine directory to your PATH)
[04:42] <DBO> daryl, make sure you use the ln -s command
[04:42] <arrick1> anyone know why a HD wont mount with ext3 partition on it?
[04:42] <arrick1> or be picked up with FDISK?
[04:43] <DBO> arrick1, is it in your fstab?
[04:43] <arrick1> DBO, nope
[04:43] <daryl> DBO your suggesting, that I keep this folder on my desktop, but let Linux know there is a link to it here?
[04:43] <DBO> arrick1, do you get an error when you try to mount it with the mount command
[04:43] <daryl> DBO forgive me, i'm ultra new : )
[04:43] <arrick1> yeah, cant open
[04:44] <DBO> daryl, well it would work, but erm, why dont you go ahead and tell me what all is in that folder on your desktop
[04:44] <DBO> arrick1, quote please =)
[04:44] <arrick1> ok hang on
[04:44] <arrick1> nameserver 68.238.0.12
[04:44] <arrick1> nameserver 68.238.112.12
[04:44] <arrick1> nameserver 209.210.176.9
[04:44] <arrick1> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[04:45] <arrick1> wrong one sorry
[04:45] <daryl> DB wine-0.9.6, is where I extracted the wine source code,  Then I went into  wine-0.9.6  and compiled it, then installed it.
[04:45] <wowoku> #ubuntu -ch
[04:45] <arrick1> mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[04:45] <arrick1> 
[04:45] <arrick1> DBO, ^^
[04:45] <daryl> DB Was I supposed to extract wine source to somewhere else?  (besides a folder on my desktop?)
[04:45] <DBO> arrick1, "ls /dev/hdb*"
[04:46] <daryl> DBO: I'm more than happy to remove it, and start over.
[04:46] <Jowi> arrick1: "fdisk -l" should list all of your disks
[04:46] <arrick1> DBO, helps if i use the right drive, its hdc ouch
[04:46] <DBO> arrick1, it sure does
[04:46] <marcin_ant> is there any gimp user?
[04:46] <wowoku> who can tell me how to chinese ubuntu
[04:46] <marcin_ant> I don't know how to switch to main gimp window with keyboard shortcut and this is very annoying thing - could someone tell me if is this possible?
[04:47] <arrick1> !zf
[04:47] <ubotu> arrick1: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:47] <_indymedia_> heloooooooooooooo ubuntu users@!
[04:47] <DBO> daryl, it should have moved all the files into ~/.wine and some place for binaries (not sure where wine goes these days)
[04:47] <arrick1> what is the command for Chinese DBO
[04:47] <DBO> !zh
[04:47] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.
[04:48] <_indymedia_> whazup people
[04:48] <_indymedia_> can anyone help me
[04:48] <DBO> _indymedia_, sure, state your problem please
[04:48] <_indymedia_> im trying to isntall kubuntu
[04:48] <DBO> in one message or less =P
[04:48] <jpbotelho> /who #
[04:48] <daryl> DBO: thats where my wine folder is.  So the source files that I compiled, don't have to be in a specific spot when i compile them?
[04:48] <_indymedia_> on x86 intel p1 with 64mb ram
[04:49] <DBO> daryl, nope, you should be able to delete those, there should be a wine binary in /usr/bin/
[04:49] <_indymedia_> can anyone help with installation tips?
[04:49] <starman> hi2all
[04:49] <_indymedia_> I cant get the vga right
[04:49] <_indymedia_> cant find valid mode
[04:49] <_indymedia_> when scan
[04:49] <DBO> !enter
[04:49] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[04:50] <_indymedia_> is done
[04:50] <arrick1> !fixres
[04:50] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:50] <starman> is there any problem with the network in ubuntu dapper??
[04:50] <DBO> starman, well Im online...
[04:50] <cg> i use ubuntu510 and met sevral times it read the hard disk and dead.
[04:50] <starman> I mean with bandwidth
[04:50] <daryl> DBO: i'm in the /usr/bin foldr.  What does a wine library look like to make sure I'm doing this right?
[04:50] <starman> I use to be able to download much faster than now
[04:50] <Jowi> _indymedia_: are you talking about Xorg or grub boot options?
[04:50] <DBO> daryl, "ls /usr/bin/wine"
[04:51] <cg> does other people meet this dead situation?
[04:51] <DBO> starman, im not aware of any such issue
[04:51] <daryl> there isn't one there DBO
[04:51] <daryl> so i've thoroughly messed this up lol
[04:51] <ITSa341> Hey, I have a p4 with ht  do I want to use the 686 smp kernel or standard 686?
[04:51] <DBO> daryl, somewhere, yes you have
[04:51] <starman> ok it might be something related to the torrents I am trying to download
[04:51] <frying_fish> daryl: when you compiled did you do make and make install
[04:51] <frying_fish> or just make
[04:51] <daryl> frying_fish, yes i did
[04:52] <_indymedia_> shweet thanks ubotu
[04:52] <starman> ok, has any one got wobbly compiz plugin to work under 64bit?
[04:52] <daryl> I folowed an article in the forums
[04:52] <frying_fish> which, make  && make install or, make.
[04:52] <frying_fish> infact, isn't there .debs for the latest wine even for breezy on winehq?
[04:52] <_indymedia_> has anyone tried kubuntu
[04:52] <_indymedia_> ?
[04:52] <DBO> frying_fish, yes there is
[04:52] <ITSa341> _indymedia_  I like kubuntu also
[04:52] <DBO> _indymedia_, you will have a very hard time running that on a P1 with 64mb
[04:53] <frying_fish> so wouldn't that be much much simpler.
[04:53] <starman> kde works really bad with compiz-kde
[04:53] <flydream> have anybody updagrade the ubuntu from 5.10 to 6.06?
[04:53] <frying_fish> p1 64mb, running KDE or gnome would be a joke.
[04:53] <_indymedia_> KDE desktop
[04:53] <frying_fish> you might want to try fluxbox
[04:53] <_indymedia_> Its so cool that Shuttleworth decided to distribute ubuntu for free
[04:53] <_indymedia_> truly cool
[04:53] <ITSa341> _indymedia_  It was a rescource eater compared to ubuntu for me
[04:53] <_jason> flydream: lot's of people.  We have a special channel for 6.06, please join #ubuntu+1
[04:53] <starman> kde has many more things than gnome, in my humble opinion :D
[04:53] <_indymedia_> hmm
[04:53] <RandolphCarter> ahh, that's where I should go, thanks _jason :)
[04:53] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: I wouldn't try it on a low spec machine.
[04:53] <Jowi> try sawfish, fluxbox, xfce, ice-wm or some other lightweight wm
[04:53] <daryl> DBO and frying_fish: I extracted the source to a folder on my desktop called  wine-0.9.6.  then I  patch -p1 < wine-cvs-glx.diff, then I patch -p1 < wine-wow-fixes.patch, then I ./configure, then I 'make depend && make', then I sudo make install
[04:53] <_indymedia_> well maby gnome would be better on 64mb RAM
[04:54] <frying_fish> 0.9.6, isn't wine up to 0.9.12 now anyway.
[04:54] <Jowi> _indymedia_: gnome is equally heavy
[04:54] <_indymedia_> want to use it for better security as primary net server
[04:54] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: don't use gnome or KDE
[04:54] <Jowi> _indymedia_: try sawfish, fluxbox, xfce, ice-wm or some other lightweight wm
[04:54] <_indymedia_> firewall
[04:54] <takedown> _indymedia_: try openbox
[04:54] <starman> anyone using compiz?
[04:54] <frying_fish> use fluxbox, or at a push xfce
[04:54] <flydream> how can i get in the special channel for6.06
[04:54] <_indymedia_> whynot?
[04:54] <_indymedia_> hmm cool
[04:54] <frying_fish> flydream:  #ubuntu+1
[04:54] <simonpca> reboot ==> linux
[04:54] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: it will be really slow
[04:54] <_indymedia_> JUST HAVE TO STILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET MODE WORKING ON VGA lol! :-)
[04:55] <frying_fish> 64mb is not enough to run it.
[04:55] <arrick1> type /j #ubuntu+1 flydream '
[04:55] <Jowi> _indymedia_: i have a P1 166 with 60mb which runs ice-wm great
[04:55] <starman> _indymedia_, what vga mode?
[04:55] <ITSa341> _indymedia_  for a router/firewall check out smoothwall.org    I have been using smoothwall for router/firewalls for years. Very stable and easy to set up
[04:55] <harisund> People, I have a question. Would it work if I install 5.10 server, change my repositories to Dapper, and install ubuntu-desktop? Would it give me the most recent Dapper's Ubuntu desktop?
[04:55] <daryl> DBO: perhaps it would be easier to tell me where I went wrong, and just have me start over.
[04:55] <_indymedia_> how can i install it? i really dont know that much about linux
[04:55] <arrick1> SMOOTHWALL is great and awesome too
[04:55] <_indymedia_> am slooooooooowly trying to get out of windoze
[04:55] <starman> I have been trying to run vesa from the boot commands, unsuccessfully
[04:55] <Jowi> _indymedia_: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select "vesa". see if that works
[04:55] <frying_fish> daryl: perhaps it would just be easier to get the later version of wine than 0.9.6
[04:55] <hastesaver> harisund, better to install 5.10 desktop first, right?
[04:56] <ITSa341> arrick1  I have a smoothwall that has not been rebooted for years
[04:56] <harisund> hastesaver: I don't want to have 5.10 desktop.
[04:56] <starman> I dont know, i think is the initrd image
[04:56] <arrick1> ITSa341, `so does my network
[04:56] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop would do xfce
[04:56] <_indymedia_> running laptop for browsing web on winXP and want to use old p1 for firewall running ubuntu
[04:56] <daryl> frying_fish: I could do that.  I was just following the forum instructions.  it said to use this particular version even though it was older.
[04:56] <frying_fish> if you just want it is a firewall try ipcop
[04:56] <frying_fish> its a better distro than ubuntu for that.
[04:56] <_indymedia_> but have to setup linux to be able to share interent
[04:56] <daryl> Frying_fish: I'm trying to install World of Warcraft.
[04:56] <hastesaver> harisund, but you want 6.06 desktop?
[04:56] <_indymedia_> *internet
[04:57] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: http://ipcop.org/
[04:57] <ITSa341> _indymedia_  for a router/firewall check out smoothwall.org    it is a standalone distro designed just for that use
[04:57] <_indymedia_> interesting
[04:57] <daryl> what is the command to uninstall this wine version, that I've inappropriate installed?
[04:57] <PDani> hi
[04:57] <harisund> hastesaver: Yes, I want 6.06 desktop. My logic was, if I install 5.10 server, I will only get bare minimum components. Then I can upgrade those components, and directly go for the 6.06 desktop. If I install 5.10 desktop, first I have to wait a while before that installs, and then wait even longer before that upgrades :(
[04:57] <harisund> hastesaver: slow machine .
[04:57] <frying_fish> harisund: just download the 6.06 iso's?
[04:57] <PDani> i upgraded to dapper. how can i generate new locales? (in breezy, i could do it with dpkg-reconfigure locales, but now it doesn't work)
[04:57] <_indymedia_> is it possible to gradually get into linux starting with automated tasks in gui
[04:58] <ITSa341> harisund  just install dapper from a cd
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> I dont see the logic of the 'older' stuff being better for slower machines. :P
[04:58] <_indymedia_> because learning all those commands is time consuming right now
[04:58] <daryl> frying_fish: what do I type to remove this messed up wine install?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> _indymedia_,  it pays to read and read and read and learn the fundamentals.. just skim  some tutorials.. and reread them later.
[04:58] <starman> does anyone know the difference between debian and ubuntu?
[04:58] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: seriously, if you just want it as a router box then ipcop is much better than ubuntu, and is web interface managed.
[04:58] <harisund> frying_fish and ITSa341: No immediate access to CD burners, and I wanted to try it this weekend.
[04:58] <ITSa341> harisund   I understand
[04:58] <harisund> oh well thanks guys .. let me see what I can do anyway ..
[04:58] <_indymedia_> i want to be able to download stuff too though
[04:59] <frying_fish> harisund: then technically yes you could install breezy server, and then upgrade, there is a way to do it
[04:59] <daryl> RandolphCarter and DBO thank you both for your help.  Thanks to you for your suggestions to Frying fish.
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> _indymedia_,  what does downloading 'stuff' have to do with learning linux? :P
[04:59] <_indymedia_> like if i take my laptop out somewhere stuff can still download/upload from the other pc
[04:59] <blasph> I can't sync my palm (got an old Clie now) with Evolution (or J-Pilot for that matter).
[04:59] <PDani> any idea?
[04:59] <frying_fish> _indymedia_: it still has ssh on it.
[04:59] <_indymedia_> not just router =- router / dl/ul
[04:59] <ciro> I have a problem.Im not able to burn cds with k3b cuz it says me there is no cd into drive. who can help me?
[04:59] <frying_fish> or should have.
[04:59] <RandolphCarter> daryl: np's :)
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> _indymedia_,  you mean get in to the main pc remotely. thats doable with ssh. but if you are on a dynamic ip - it can be a bit of a bother.
[05:00] <daryl> RandolphCarter: is there a specific way to remove wine?  or do I just delete my directory?
[05:00] <frying_fish> unless you can use dyndns.org
[05:00] <frying_fish> or something like that.
[05:00] <Jowi> _indymedia_: dyndns.org is great
[05:00] <frying_fish> daryl: first do something like find / -name wine and see what comes back
[05:00] <frying_fish> if its just stuff in that one folder then yes.
[05:01] <RandolphCarter> daryl: depends on where it's installed, but in general yeah, just remove the directory for wine
[05:01] <HellDragon> hi anyone can help me ? my resolution is stuck on 1024x768 @70 hertz(i want 1024x768 but at 85hertz not 70)
[05:01] <HellDragon> in the resolution menu i cant change anything, stuck on that
[05:01] <linux6754> hi all
[05:01] <HellDragon> i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:01] <HellDragon> not working
[05:01] <daryl> RandolphCarter: /usr/local/share/fonts/wine, /usr/local/share/wine, /usr/local/bin/wine, usr/local/lib/wine, /usr/local/include/wine
[05:02] <linux6754> I would install ubuntu on my acer aspire 5672WLmi .....somebody can help me??????????????
[05:02] <linux6754> pleaseeeeeeeeeee
[05:02] <_indymedia_> ubuntu is a debian variant 'based on debian' created byShuttleworth foundation  multi millionair south african Mark Shuttlworths company who developed verisign out of his garage, he was also the first African in space, His company now gives away UBUNTU LINUX away free. You can order a copy from the website
[05:02] <Jowi> !ask
[05:02] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[05:02] <daryl> RandolphCarter: is that part of the problem? everything is in sub folder of local.
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> linux6754,  you got an actual 'problem' ?
[05:02] <green_earz> starman: check out the video of mark shuttleworth talking about ubuntu and ubuntu relationship > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2005/debconf5/mpeg/2005-07-14/02-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth.mpeg
[05:02] <gawen> does anyone know how I can load my pcmcia wifi card on the boot progress... Before networking configuration
[05:03] <HellDragon> my eyes are dying
[05:03] <HellDragon> omg 70hertz
[05:03] <RandolphCarter> daryl: nah, that's a good thing, things you compile should go into /usr/local or /opt (I'd stick wine in /opt/wine myself, easier to upgrade by just rm -rf /opt/win) :)
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> 70htz.. wow.. the humanity...
[05:03] <Jowi> gawen: you put the driver in /etc/modules
[05:03] <starman> mercy beaucoup green_earz
[05:03] <_jason> yes
[05:03] <zorglu1> Dr_Willis: autorepeat wont stop on ? and e but work ok on other keys. real weird :)
[05:03] <ompaul> !tell HellDragon about resolution
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> I rember the days of using a TV as a comuter monitor.
[05:03] <HellDragon> i already tryied that OmniColos
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> zorglu1,  thats odd..
[05:03] <HellDragon> ompaul, oops
[05:03] <enyc> HellDragon: hrrm I like running at 1216x912 at 99hz
[05:04] <ompaul> HellDragon, if you want read the stuff from the bot :-)
[05:04] <RandolphCarter> daryl: you can control where programs you install go by adding --prefix= to the configure script
[05:04] <_n30> when i boot kubuntu It starts up but the screen is blank!
[05:04] <_n30> like
[05:04] <daryl> RandolphCarter: i'm about to try to reinstall this again.  Any suggestions to make sure I dont' do the same thing?  I'm following a post called "World of Warcraft with Wine" in the forums.
[05:04] <gawen> driver are already in... but pcmcia load the card after the networking script
[05:04] <_n30> it installs but theres no image/vga when i try get into GUI
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[05:04] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:05] <RandolphCarter> daryl: that should be fine I think, something odd probably hapenned this time.  just do ./configure --prefix=/opt/wine (and don't forget to mkdir /opt/wine too)
[05:05] <HellDragon> yesterday i was at 85 !
[05:05] <Zarephath> Hey ompaul:
[05:05] <HellDragon> and today 70 ...
[05:05] <PDani> so
[05:05] <PDani> how can i generate the hu_HU locale?
[05:06] <Blissex> PDani: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:06] <tech_> can someone help with installing wine?
[05:06] <daryl> RandolphCarter: thanks, I saved all that info you wrote me.  I'm gonna go try it again... wish me luck.  oy..
[05:06] <PDani> Blissex: it doesn't answer anything in dapper...
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> tech_,  read the info from !wine yet?
[05:06] <ompaul> HellDragon, so did you do something? system - preferences - screen resoultion
[05:06] <tech_> !wine
[05:07] <Blissex> PDani: well, wait until Dapper is released.
[05:07] <RandolphCarter> daryl: np's, gl ^_^
[05:07] <starman> how old is ubuntu, like 3 years?
[05:07] <tech_> Dr_Willis: i have readed at the web page to wine but i dident finit out :P
[05:07] <HellDragon> you wiki page doesnt work
[05:07] <Zarephath> clear
[05:07] <Jae2> Hey I need a little help with setting up dual monitors
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> tech_,  may want to ask a more detailed question as well.
[05:08] <arrick1> tech_, whats up today?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Jae2,  what video card(s) ?
[05:08] <daryl> !wow
[05:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[05:08] <tech_> arrick1: need to install wine :P
[05:08] <arrick1> !easysources
[05:08] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick1
[05:08] <Jae2> ati 9600XT, 2 video outputs
[05:08] <arrick1> !easysource
[05:08] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:08] <blasph> how do I tell Evolution what date format to use?
[05:08] <PDani> Blissex: maybe a more constructive idea?
[05:09] <arrick1> tech_, got here and get repos for it and add it to /etc/apt/sources.lict
[05:09] <arrick1> tech_, got here and get repos for it and add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:09] <arrick1> the second is correct
[05:09] <linux6754> HOW CAN I UPDATE THE VERSION OF THE KERNEL IN THE TEXT MODE WITHOUT HAVING ANY INTERNET CONNECTION AVAILABLE???? HELP ME!!!!!
[05:09] <speedie> ok, trying to setup remote XServer, ssh into the host machine with 'ssh -Y' and set the DISPLAY env
[05:09] <speedie> tofarley@ora:~$ xhost +
[05:09] <speedie> Xlib: connection to "192.168.1.104:0.0" refused by server
[05:09] <speedie> Xlib: No protocol specified
[05:09] <starman> do you guys think, windows gathers that many communities in the net?
[05:09] <speedie> any ideas?
[05:09] <starman> windows users are passive users?
[05:09] <arrick1> tech_, look at ubotus last post
[05:09] <HellDragon> im sad
[05:09] <linux6754>  thank
[05:09] <tech_> arrick1: gonna try sometginf brb
[05:10] <cliebow__> kernel-source for building hgsflinmodem?
[05:10] <gawen> does anyone know how I can load my pcmcia wifi card on the boot progress... Before networking configuration... The card work properly but pcmcia load it after the networking script...
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> linux6754,  you got any pc with internet connection?
[05:10] <speedie> starman: not all windows users are passive... I know some "power" windows users
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  power 'windows user' is like a 'power' drinker. :)
[05:10] <starman> hehehe
[05:10] <speedie> heh, not true... there are many intricacies to windows too
[05:11] <YogSothoth> Hi
[05:11] <speedie> personally, I have a Mac, and a linux box
[05:11] <YogSothoth> Is there a way to tell scp not to overwrite files if destination file exists and is the same size?
[05:11] <arrick1> there are no "Power" windoze users, they just think they are
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  if you have ssh set up right.. you dont need to set the display env.
[05:11] <arrick1> haha
[05:11] <starman> well I think windows its boring
[05:11] <HellDragon> :(
[05:11] <speedie> Dr_Willis: define "right"
[05:11] <speedie> :)
[05:11] <tech_> arrick1: i cant change anything in the source.list file :\
[05:11] <starman> speedie mac is cool
[05:11] <speedie> tech_:  sudo vi /etc/sources.list
[05:11] <arrick1> tech_, try typing in terminal sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  the normal way. :P  last i had to export display was when using telnet. ssh -X i though t did it allready.
[05:11] <Zarephath> I have Cable access with dynamic IP assignment....I setup a mail server and pointed it back to my dynamic ip address...however when I tried to send email it bounced saying mail relay not permitted...is there a company where I can get static ips and run everything through the dns for the ips..just using my cable for the connection?
[05:11] <starman> however way too expensive
[05:11] <ompaul> linux6754, do not use block capitals, thank you, try a wired connection, visit packages.ubuntu.com for kernel materials of you do not have a connection, you will be installing using >>dpkg -i packagename<< click on system administration disks to add a windows disk with the file you want on it - make sure you have the dependencies - and you can always go wired
[05:12] <hackeron_> hey, quick question, how do I remap alt+mmb+drag to resize window to alt+rmb+drag? - I'm used to that combination from every other window manager I tried.
[05:12] <arrick1> speedie, you forgot that sources are in the apt folder?
[05:12] <speedie> doh, yeah
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> hackeron_,  heh - thats the first ive heard of that combo.
[05:12] <arrick1> haha
[05:12] <green_earz> Zarephath: http://www.no-ip.com/
[05:12] <ompaul> Zarephath, check out: dydns.com no idea how it works but I believe it should work for you, also read the howtos for postfix if you want to go there
[05:12] <hackeron_> Dr_Willis: very useful :)
[05:13] <speedie> Dr_Willis: I tried with -X just now, and it says that my DISPLAY isn't set
[05:13] <YogSothoth> Never mind, I'll use rsync :)
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> hackeron_,  i tend to have eerything full screened.
[05:13] <Jae2> Can anyone help me with setting up dual monitors?  I have one video card (9600xt) with two video outputs.  I've made some change to xorg.conf and currently my second monitor is just a clone of my main, id like an "extended desktop"
[05:13] <starman> speedie, you cant run xorg?
[05:13] <hackeron_> Dr_Willis: always annoyed me why Gnome changed it to middle mouse button, so awkward
[05:13] <starman> or xgl?
[05:13] <blasph> can date format for Evolution be set?
[05:13] <Jowi> Zarephath: there are hundreds of companies like that. 1. register a domain name (cost around 10 euros) 2. get DNS control service for that domain (cost 10 euros per year). 3. set the MX value to point to your domain name. 4. enjoy having a mail server.
[05:13] <speedie> startman, trying to run it remotely
[05:13] <hackeron_> Dr_Willis: even compiz with xgl uses right mouse button
[05:13] <ompaul> HellDragon, never once in two years here I have I seen someone say that the resolution factoid does not work
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  may want to read a few of the SSH tutoprials/guides out - proberly some setting you got to set in the ssh server file or client.
[05:14] <starman> I see
[05:14] <arrick1> !ssh
[05:14] <ubotu> ssh is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[05:14] <Zarephath> green_earz,ompaul: thanks
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  also the ssh agent program may need to be getting started. (i forget the details)
[05:14] <green_earz> np
[05:14] <Jowi> Zarephath: you can also go with the free option: dyn-dns.org or what green_earz said
[05:14] <tech_> arrick1: think im going to try the guide =) but thanx anyway =)
[05:14] <gawen> does anyone know how I can load my pcmcia wifi card on the boot progress... Before networking configuration... The card work properly but pcmcia load it after the networking script...
[05:14] <arrick1> speedie, are you using ubuntu to ssh into another ubuntu box?
[05:14] <arrick1> tech_, ok
[05:14] <speedie> arrack using Mac to ssh into an ubuntu box
[05:15] <Zarephath> jowi: I have a domain name, however ultimately I have to use the dynamic ip to point back to my machine...this is the issue
[05:15] <arrick1> speedie, im not familiar with mac, but most work similar
[05:15] <arrick1> what issue you having?
[05:15] <Zarephath> I use mac too
[05:15] <Jowi> Zarephath: ah. that sucks. maybe give a call to your ISP and ask what  a static IP cost.
[05:15] <speedie> Xlib: connection to "192.168.1.104:0.0" refused by server
[05:15] <speedie> Xlib: No protocol specified
[05:15] <baconbacon> my HD keeps shutting down after about 10 seconds w/ no activity, how can i stop it
[05:15] <starman> mac already does stuff like Xgl + compiz, doesnt it?
[05:15] <arrick1> Zarephath, use no-ip.com
[05:16] <Zarephath> jowi: yeah I did..they want 180 US per month...
[05:16] <Zarephath> arrick1: I will look at that...don't think that is going to solve my issue
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  you sshing in as the same user?  or as root? or somthing like that?
[05:16] <arrick1> Zarephath, that would put more into that than your car haha
[05:16] <speedie> Dr_Willis: same username on both machine
[05:16] <speedie> not root
[05:16] <arrick1> Zarephath, what is your issue, I run 15 domains from my dynamic ip address
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  ubuntu on both?
[05:16] <arrick1> never have downtime
[05:16] <speedie> Dr_Willis: Mac OS X on one, ubuntu on the other
[05:17] <arrick1> (unless im upgrading)
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  try echo $DISPLAY
[05:17] <speedie> 192.168.1.104:0.0
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> echo $DISPLAY ---> localhost:10.0
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> is what i got on my working  ssh -X setup.
[05:17] <Zarephath> arrick1: I use Zoneedit for DNS...I created a MX record for my email server which pointed back to my dynamic ip...my provider doesn't allow relay
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> you exported your display?
[05:17] <gawen> does anyone know how I can load my pcmcia wifi card on the boot progress... Before networking configuration... The card work properly but pcmcia load it after the networking script...
[05:18] <Nihil85> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13499
[05:18] <arrick1> ew
[05:18] <Zarephath> arrick1: Now what?
[05:18] <sathya> hi...can anyone tell me when dapper will be shipped?
[05:18] <rmulliga> Does anyone know how to write a .vmx file for Ubuntu for 2 CDROM drives?
[05:18] <speedie> echo $DISPLAY
[05:18] <speedie> localhost:10.0
[05:18] <speedie> tofarley@ora:~/sqldeveloper$ xhost +
[05:18] <speedie> X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[05:18] <speedie> tofarley@ora:~/sqldeveloper$ xhost +
[05:18] <arrick1> thats a hardone to bypass, I cant think of the solution on this one
[05:18] <Zarephath> speedie: use pastebin for that
[05:18] <speedie> sorry
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  you are trying to run a linux app and have it show up on the OS_X box? or visa versa?
[05:18] <speedie> Dr_Willis: Linux apps on the OS X box
[05:19] <ompaul> speedie, do not paste in this channel thank you, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting thanks
[05:19] <speedie> I heard the first time :)
[05:19] <arrick1> try routing through a high port like 8885 or something, sometimes the providers dont block them
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> speedie,  isent there some X file server tools you need to install?
[05:19] <speedie> Dr_Willis: installed and working
[05:19] <green_earz> Zarephath: with no-ip you can have them relay your mail to a different port
[05:19] <arrick1> yep
[05:19] <Zarephath> Ok...
[05:19] <BSA_> sorry closed the window by accident :(
[05:20] <AngryElf> how do i disable cd/dvd autoplay?
[05:20] <speedie> Zarephath: use dyndns.com
[05:20] <speedie> I use their free Dynamic DNS
[05:20] <iocaste> Zarephath: i use freedns.afraid.org
[05:21] <speedie> X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[05:21] <BSA_> can someone please tell me why  clicking on system>administration>networking wouldnt work
[05:21] <Jae2> how can I chmod to allow all users access to a mounted read-only filesystem (windoz drive0
[05:21] <arrick1> BSA_, have you changed anything in it?
[05:21] <ompaul> BSA_, what do you mean does not work?
[05:21] <arrick1> Jae2
[05:21] <arrick1> !ntfs
[05:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:22] <rmulliga> Anyone using VMware with 2 cdrom drives?
[05:22] <BSA_> it says starting networking in the bar then nothing happenes
[05:22] <Jae2> thanks
[05:22] <BSA_> i think i deleted the hostname :S
[05:22] <arrick1> BSA_, give it time, sometimes takes a bit
[05:22] <arrick1> ew
[05:22] <BSA_> its been 30 mins since the first time i tried
[05:23] <ompaul> BSA_, okay first up if you have done something simple rebooting might fix it,
[05:23] <DPackrat> I tried using the Livecd and the login screen is corrupted (looks like a garbled image). Any ideas?
[05:23] <ompaul> BSA_, second up what kind of conneciton is it?
[05:23] <arrick1> BSA_, try typing sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[05:23] <Jowi> BSA: just type in what hostname you want in /etc/hostname
[05:23] <BSA_> ive tried but ill give it a go again
[05:23] <arrick1> to see if you did indeed delete the hostname
[05:23] <BSA_> i tried editing that file but its read only
[05:24] <arrick1> you gotta sudo to write to it
[05:24] <HellDragon> sudo -mom
[05:24] <Jowi> BSA: "sudo nano /etc/hostname"
[05:24] <gawen> does anyone know how I can load my pcmcia wifi card on the boot progress... Before networking configuration... The card work properly but pcmcia load it after the networking script...
[05:24] <arrick1> Jowi, ompaul glad yoiur here, Im sending him to the wrong folder (ouch)
[05:25] <Jowi> gawen: add the module name to /etc/modules
[05:25] <ompaul> DPackrat, at it starts the machine pauses (I forget which key it is F1-F6) and you can get to a prompt if you add to the "boot options" the following text from between the <>     >>>vga=771<<<
[05:25] <BSA_> it says ... sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()
[05:25] <DPackrat> Thanks ompaul, I'll try it out
[05:26] <DPackrat> Does it have something to do with my graphics card or monitor perhaps? (7800GT, Dell 20" WS)
[05:26] <j2daosh> anyone in here know how to stream music remotely thru nomachine? do i need a certain program or do i just have to change a setting?
[05:27] <ompaul> DPackrat, its the card and this manover can help, what kind of card is in it  - ati or something else?
[05:27] <j2daosh> im sure the people in my house right now are getting pretty pissed by my computer blaring music and shutting off and blaring music somemore while i rack my brain trying to get the music to come here instead of locally
[05:27] <marcie> I learn my programs (and operating systems) best by book. Is there the equivalent available on Ubuntu, for free
[05:27] <marcie> one i could print out maybe
[05:27] <CatalinuX> hi all
[05:27] <darmou> I've got a problem I've half upgraded to dapper and now some of my modules won't load up on start up, I have no X or networking
[05:27] <speedybits> Is there a way for me to rip whatever my soundcard is playing to MP3/Ogg?
[05:28] <arrick1> marcie, try Rutes exposition and turorial
[05:28] <Jowi> !tell darmou about dapper
[05:28] <j2daosh> anyone in here know how to stream music remotely thru nomachine? do i need a certain program or do i just have to change a setting?
[05:28] <darmou> is there some debs I could download and install to bring my system back online?
[05:28] <marcie> where is that?
[05:28] <BSA_> please this internet thing is boggling me ive searched the forums but no joy
[05:28] <darmou> ok thanks Jowi
[05:28] <marcie> if that is the basic tutorial...i didn't find it all that helpful
[05:28] <arrick1> type it in google, or order through barnes & noble.com
[05:28] <marcie> oh, ok thank you
[05:29] <mustard5> darmou, how can you half upgrade to dapper?
[05:29] <marcie> any other suggestions from people?
[05:30] <CatalinuX> i have a problem with ubuntu 6.06 .. after the phase of detecting hardware components, the installer just stops and the hardware continues to work a period of time, than it stops. I can succesfully install Ubuntu 5.10 without any problems. That`s what I use now. But I want to install Ubuntu 6.06 and I can`t because the installation is stopping unexpectedly. Can U please help me ?
[05:30] <BSA_> I use wireless its working now
[05:30] <DPackrat> Ompaul - it's actually an Nvidia
[05:30] <|Sivik|> BSA: what card?
[05:30] <BSA_> the networting program was working before
[05:30] <BSA_> actiontec
[05:30] <|Sivik|> ok
[05:30] <arrick1> marcie, I have only been using linux since January, and believe me Rutes helped
[05:30] <ompaul> CatalinuX, please ask in the channel #ubuntu+1 its where dapper is actually dealth with
[05:31] <arrick1> its what everyon in here told me to get at the time
[05:31] <BSA_> i think it prism based
[05:31] <ompaul> !tell DPackrat about nvidia
[05:31] <ompaul> DPackrat, read the message from the bot :-)
[05:31] <arrick1> if you need more info, you can try the wiki and just read and browse
[05:31] <CatalinuX> 10x ompaul
[05:31] <DPackrat> heh, thanks
[05:32] <DPackrat> Does that apply to the Livecd as well?
[05:32] <ompaul> DPackrat, it applies to nvidia
[05:32] <green_earz> BSA_: to check what the module name is for the network card > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[05:32] <daryl> RandolphCarter: HI again.  I just posted under daryl256 on ubunto paste bin.  would you mind taking a look, to tell me whey the command I typed dind't work?
[05:32] <DPackrat> thanks, I'll give it a try
[05:32] <ompaul> DPackrat, and the 771 yes it can do
[05:32] <RandolphCarter> daryl: sure
[05:33] <indy> Is this where i can ask technical questions about my Ubuntu instillation?
[05:33] <RandolphCarter> daryl: ahh, 'sudo aptitude install fakeroot' :)
[05:33] <kbrooks> indy: ask.
[05:33] <daryl> so type the command w/a sudo at the front?
[05:33] <ompaul> marcie, have a look at help.ubuntu.com and click on the "lifesaver" icon on your top panel
[05:33] <RandolphCarter> daryl: nope, install fakeroot using that line
[05:33] <Curtman> Do I need to do anything to get inotify support in Ubuntu's kernel?  According to /boot/config-2.6.15-21-k7, I have 'CONFIG_INOTIFY=y', but dmesg says nothing about inotify at all.  :(
[05:33] <daryl> oh! lol, thanks RandolphCarter!
[05:33] <indy> ok, i have what i see as two problems. 1)  Ubuntu support for wmv files
[05:34] <kbrooks> indy: 1. win32codecs
[05:34] <indy> and 2) a firefox pluging support for wmv files
[05:34] <RandolphCarter> np's :)
[05:34] <kbrooks> indy: 2. mplayer, install 1.
[05:34] <arrick1> !restricted
[05:34] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:34] <arrick1> indy, ^^
[05:34] <daryl> RandolphCarter: I'm trying to make sure I don't bug you guys much.  Could you tell me how you understood that I needed to install that?
[05:34] <kbrooks> arrick1: i told him :-)
[05:34] <arrick1> ok
[05:35] <harisund> Hello, somebody has changed the ubuntu RestrictedFormats page instructions for Flashplayer. It used to be mozilla-flashplayer and now it is flashplugin-nonfree even for Breezy. Is that correct?
[05:35] <indy> can i install  win32codecs from the comand line ? if so how,
[05:35] <arrick1> kbrooks, I was giving a link to it
[05:35] <ompaul> !restrictedformats
[05:35] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:35] <arrick1> indy follow that link, it will tell you all
[05:35] <RandolphCarter> daryl: well, the last line is usually the one where the problem was
[05:35] <ompaul> indy, the way to do it in ubuntu is documented there
[05:35] <kbrooks> ok
[05:35] <arrick1> thanks ompaul again
[05:35] <Jae2> I have the gstreamer0.8-misc plugins but totem will not play mp3 files
[05:35] <harisund> Somebody should really make sure the RestrictedFormats page for Breezy atleast doesn't change. I seem to be seeing a change everyday now.
[05:35] <marcie> i found a review of Rute's book...i already have a good book on running Unix...which i think would be appropriate for basic information
[05:35] <RandolphCarter> daryl: and it says 'fakeroot: command not found', ergo, we need to install fakeroot :)
[05:36] <daryl> RandolphCarter, that makes a lot of sense
[05:36] <Curtman> indy: Save yourself the trouble and just get them from mplayerhq.hu, and untar them in /usr/lib/win32.
[05:36] <arrick1> harisund, me to me to
[05:36] <ompaul> harisund, hmmm thanks for that
[05:36] <marcie> what i want to learn more about is how to run the Unbutu system and it's features, such as X-windows, with how they have been set up for ubuntu
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> indy,  i agree with Curtman
[05:36] <daryl> RandolphCarter: i made the bold leap into Linux 2 days ago...  i'm so very new
[05:36] <marcie> (i'm looking for a book or text file on how to use ubuntu
[05:36] <harisund> ompaul, so in breezy for FlashPlayer should I install flashplugin-nonfree or should I install mozilla-flashplayer ?
[05:36] <RandolphCarter> daryl: ahh, well, you don't seem to be doing too badly anyway ^_^
[05:37] <daryl> RandolphCarter: i'm pretty technically minded, but I'm just new to this whole thing.  Any suggested reading for me?  that would explain things like that.
[05:37] <arrick1> marcie, http://www.ubuntu.net browse it
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> marcie,  the ubuntu wiki/forums - the definitive guide.. and of course all the debian docs out apply as well.
[05:37] <RandolphCarter> daryl: always best to read the manpages, they're a bit dry but they grow on you in the end, try running 'man man' to start with
[05:37] <indy> ok, thanks. I'll see how i go. I'm fairly new to linux, i.e i'm still finding my feet. Thanks.
[05:37] <daryl> RandolphCarter: thanks, i'll get to it : )
[05:37] <RandolphCarter> daryl: you can generally do 'man *commandname*' if you're confused about something
[05:37] <kbrooks> i'm writing a virtual machine frontend. i have 2 buttons, which start annd stop qemu respectively
[05:38] <arrick1> indy, thats how we all start out
[05:38] <marcie> i've browset the ubuntu wiki...not very helpful for how i learn...i will look at the debian one
[05:38] <ompaul> harisund, I know little of flash, in your shoes I would do the mozilla-flashplayer
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> 'for how i learn' ? :P
[05:38] <harisund> ompaul: exactly my thoughts. Just got a bit worried that someone changed the RestrictedFormats page.
[05:38] <mustard5> marcie, documentation is not a strong poing with linux. :)
[05:38] <marcie> as an example i only learned html when i eventually went out and bought a SAMS book on it...
[05:38] <daryl> Now you have me wondering what 'sudo aptitude install fakeroot' actually does.  I understand sudo is for super user.  and install and fakeroot are obvious.  But what is aptitude?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> mustard5,  no.. 'total beginner documention' is not a strong point. :P
[05:38] <ompaul> harisund, there have been "improvements" to the process advised by a senior developer
[05:38] <RandolphCarter> anybody using X800+fglrx, could you paste your xorg.conf and menu.lst somewhere? :)
[05:38] <arrick1> marcie if you want the learning to stick, just play with it and write a book, then you can make some money as well
[05:39] <harisund> ompaul: Ah I see..
[05:39] <ompaul> harisund, and I trust the guy who editied it
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> It pays to read read and read... then set the book away.. and come back to it later..
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> learn the fundamentals.. and the rest is easy.
[05:39] <harisund> ompaul: Yes, and I always trust wikis. :)
[05:39] <mustard5> Dr_Willis, I'll agree with that :)
[05:39] <BSA_> i did the whole  http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ thing
[05:39] <marcie> i know that is the standard approach...but i still can't install non ubuntu software...and it seems to be unbuntu related...it's frustrating me
[05:39] <BSA_> i cant make sence of it sorry
[05:39] <ompaul> harisund, well its g/freak
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> marcie,  what non-ubuntu software?
[05:39] <kbrooks> i'm writing a virtual machine frontend. i have 2 buttons, which start annd stop qemu respectively. i have a "enter cli" box. i'd like to replace the  box with something. tabs?
[05:39] <arrick1> marcie, you need to check out the repos
[05:39] <marcie> i don't mean to complain about ubuntu...i just want to figure out how to learn it specidically
[05:39] <serp> howd o I close X?
[05:40] <mustard5> marcie, could you give an example of a problem you are having?
[05:40] <arrick1> that and apt-get
[05:40] <marcie> win4lin
[05:40] <marcie> i can't seem to install many programs
[05:40] <ompaul> serp, system logout and then choose shutdown - logout - reboot or whatever with more options on dapper
[05:40] <kbrooks> marcels: you are allowed to complain abut ubuntu :-)
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> 'specificially' theres not a whole lot different  other then little trivial bits - from most disrtos. :P   the fundamentlas are the same for most all disrtos.. its just the added in extra 'tools' that may get ya.
[05:40] <serp> ompaul: but I wanna close X, not turn off the computer
[05:40] <Curtman> Do I need to do anything to get inotify support in Ubuntu's kernel?  According to /boot/config-2.6.15-21-k7, I have 'CONFIG_INOTIFY=y', but dmesg says nothing about inotify at all.  :(
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> win4lin - can be a pain. under any disrto.
[05:41] <marcie> part of it is installing generally, unless it is on the ubuntu list of software i can't get it installed.
[05:41] <arrick1> serp, logout, not shutdown
[05:41] <marcie> an easy example is i want a cookie manager that will work.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> qemu and  vmware are easier.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> cookie recipe manager?
[05:41] <marcie> downloaded programs that are related but they don't work for what i want
[05:41] <BSA_> i'm gonna try a reboot
[05:41] <BSA_> brb
[05:41] <ompaul> serp, you mean stop X :-) different thing, logout then >>sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop<< from a console
[05:42] <linux6754> where can I download the kernel with deb extension????????
[05:42] <wizzlefish> when I copied a whole bunch of files from a data CD, made it all read-only. Is there a way to set it so it makes the permissions 777 or 775 or 755?
[05:42] <ompaul> linux6754, you have been told packages.ubuntu.com
[05:42] <wizzlefish> without changing each file manually?
[05:42] <serp> ok thx ompaul
[05:42] <marcie> other ideas: can i install the newer firefox addition without killing the one that is specific to ubuntu...becaue i can't use many of the extensions with the older ubuntu firefox
[05:42] <arrick1> wizzlefish, all you gotta do is chmod it
[05:42] <squiddle> wizzlefish  you can use chmod -R  ; -R means recursive
[05:43] <arrick1> mornign squiddle
[05:43] <ompaul> !tell marcie about ff1.5
[05:43] <wizzlefish> thanks squiddle, I forgot abotu -R
[05:43] <ompaul> marcie, its a mess but that is how it is done
[05:43] <linux6754> I can' t found it..
[05:43] <squiddle> arrick1  good evening, its 1743 here ;)
[05:43] <marcie> i'm used to running firefox 2, and i usually run the beta versions as a tester...can't do that now
[05:43] <linux6754> where is it exactly???
[05:43] <ericz> !tell me about ff1.5
[05:43] <pigor> hello. when i am playing a sound file with "play <file>" there is a click at the end. how can i fix this?
[05:43] <arrick1> 1130 here squiddle
[05:43] <marcie> same for thunderbird
[05:43] <Curtman> People actually use Ubuntu without dist-upgrading to dapper?  Wow.
[05:43] <linux6754> can you link me the exact page please?????
[05:43] <ompaul> linux6754, what version of Ubuntu are you using
[05:44] <linux6754> Breezy 5.10
[05:44] <arrick1> pigor, playin a soudn with what?
[05:44] <marcie> i couldn't install win4lin even when i had the program is another example...nor simpler programs
[05:44] <arrick1> you lips, the drums, ?
[05:44] <pigor> arrickl: with the command "play"
[05:44] <arrick1> in what program pigor ?
[05:45] <marcie> the only reason i want win4lin is for my mp3 player whose warranty is only good if it is run on a windows or mac system...i figure a emulartion would do as good a job
[05:45] <squiddle> arrick1  the programm is named play
[05:45] <arrick1> oh ok
[05:45] <marcie> also my sound card doesn't work...although that is on the lower part of my concerns
[05:45] <simonp_> i need help to enable DRI in X .... cant have 3d acceleration
[05:46] <squiddle> marcie  what weird kind of warranty do you have there?
[05:46] <pigor> squiddle: do you know why play "clicks" ?
[05:46] <squiddle> pigor  no, sorry
[05:46] <marcie> actually it's standard. Ipod, Sony just about everyone is running the same deal...i didn't know till i brought it home and when i checked...well it is a standard problem
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> That would have to rate as one of the oddest warrenties/.needs for win4Linux that i can think of. :P
[05:47] <ompaul> linux6754,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/ search for kernels for that - it will show all the ones that are available
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> theres hundereds of people using ipods under linux.
[05:47] <arrick1> yep
[05:47] <marcie> that is all i want it for. I found a copy through Torrent but i can't install it!
[05:47] <arrick1> and the warantees still stand even with linux
[05:47] <marcie> well, their warranty is worth shit, unless they can make it look like it ran under windows later
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> its amazing the backflips people try to do for these companies.
[05:48] <arrick1> marcie, there is a clause that specifies a legal os being used, and linux is one
[05:48] <marcie> also i would loose some features...but i'm not concerned about that
[05:48] <arrick1> oh ok
[05:48] <blue_ant> hi
[05:48] <arrick1> hi
[05:48] <linux6754> thanks I must update the kernel from the version 2.6.12 to the version 2.6.15.2
[05:48] <arrick1> !hi
[05:48] <ubotu> arrick1: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:48] <simonp_> anyone can enable 3d accel on ATI + nforce motherboard?
[05:48] <ompaul> marcie, please leave the bad language at the door, we want a "g rated" channel :-) thanks
[05:48] <marcie> hmm...not in my documentation and in the stores where they are selling extended warrenties for Ipods same problem. I'm in Canada if it makes any difference
[05:48] <arrick1> !ati
[05:48] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:48] <linux6754> what file can i download with deb extension????
[05:48] <Curtman> marcie: Win4Lin isn't going to work as well as you think it will.. Abandon that plan and use a Linux program with your MP3 player if you know what is good for you.
[05:49] <ericz> this is probably a dumb question, but is there a way to change the sound esd makes when it starts up?
[05:49] <ompaul> linux6754, http click on the link
[05:49] <deadcake> WHO WANTS TO PLAY WITH ME WITH BZFLAG?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> and isent Win4Lin  a comercial app?  so warezing it - is not a good idea anyway.
[05:49] <arrick1> deadcake, thats a question for offtopic
[05:49] <linux6754> I click on the link...but what files on the pages can i download??? thank you
[05:50] <ompaul> deadcake, join the server and wait that is so offtopic and don't ask in caps lock thanks
[05:50] <arrick1> linux6754, follow the instructions there
[05:50] <marcie> Curtman...all i need for it to do is not harm the base files (a few megs) so i can make it look like windows later...
[05:50] <arrick1> !caps
[05:50] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[05:50] <marcie> the next problem though...i can't install programs (as i said)...so how it i install a linux one?
[05:50] <blue_ant> I would like to install Ubuntu-Server on some identical Dell Poweredge of a cluster... I'm just asking myself (before migrating from Debian) if the stock ubuntu-server kernel has support for mre than 4 GB of RAM... anyone knows? I didn't find the information anywhere...
[05:51] <salty> Hi all, im rather new to Ubuntu (but loving it alot more than danmed windows), and i have a technical problem that i can find the soluntion to on any forums - anyone able to help?
[05:51] <Curtman> marcie: 'tar cvjf ~/mymp3backup.tar.bz2 /path/to/mp3/player'  Done.
[05:51] <ompaul> marcie, using System Administration Synaptic Package Management
[05:51] <jordin> buenas amigos
[05:51] <arrick1> blue_ant, good luck
[05:51] <arrick1> morning Blue-Omega
[05:51] <ompaul> !ask
[05:51] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[05:51] <squiddle> marcie i don't get it, what do you wann do? just putting music on the player is just copying to it
[05:51] <blue_ant> arrick1, sounds scaring... ;)
[05:51] <arrick1> yeah
[05:51] <marcie> i've used them, but for specific pacakages that aren't ubuntu "okayed" it doesn't help
[05:51] <ericz> is there a way to change the beep sound esd makes when you start it?
[05:51] <iocaste> salty: fire away
[05:52] <ompaul> !es
[05:52] <Blue-Omega> arrick1, morning
[05:52] <arrick1> but dont take my word for it, I only run a 7000 pc ubuntu network
[05:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:52] <wizzlefish> using "chmod -R 777" only made the files under the folders writable, but not the folders themselves
[05:52] <simonp_> arrick1, I installed ATI binary driver but glxglears still use software renderer
[05:52] <marcie> I'll try to simply...one minute
[05:52] <arrick1> ok ask that to everyone now
[05:52] <wizzlefish> how would I make the folders rewritable
[05:52] <wizzlefish> ?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Im wondering what apple 'tech' guy would look at the format of the ipod hard drive to claim " You Broke it!, No warrenty for you!"
[05:52] <arrick1> simonp_, I only pointed to the link, I dont use it myself
[05:52] <ompaul> marcie, put it all on one line - makes it easy to understand what you are trying to do, don't break it up into little bits (bytes ;))
[05:53] <cg> how to set my word color of the IRC
[05:53] <arrick1> none Dr_Willis
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> considering apples less then steller reputation with their mp3 players and 'problems' :P  (when in doubt deny the batteries have a problem!)
[05:53] <salty> I'm running a pentium 3 with no USB boot support, with no Internal HD (as it died and im over seas) and ubuntu from liveCD - i've got a 250gig external HD that mounts no problem, but im hoping theres a way to set Ubuntu to default save all files and Programs to the external, rather than into my RAM - any ideas?
[05:53] <ompaul> wizzlefish, where are these "folders"
[05:53] <simonp_> arrick1, I've googled for a few hours, but still unable to find a solution
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> salty,  theres several live cd's that can do that - im in a similer pickle myself.  not sure of the state of the Ubuntu Live cd however.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> salty,  on others theres boot time options to set a external /home or other config dirs.
[05:54] <salty> can you recommed any good LiveCD's for a newbie?
[05:54] <ompaul> salty, ubuntu
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> salty,  slax is very nice in many ways.. Ubuntu's is 'ok'
[05:54] <salty> LOL
[05:54] <hanasaki> ?   <= firefox is showing characters like this.. what are they?
[05:54] <arrick1> cg settings preferences and look for color
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Knoppix is the defacto-standard in most of the live-cd features.
[05:55] <marcie> Goal: to move programs to my MP3 player without erasing the aprx 4mb program on the mp3 player, so that if i run into warranty problems i can just clear everything by reformating (this can be done as long as the file on my mp3 player isn't damaged, i don't know if it will be recognized by Linux. Next goal: I have had no luck installing programs not listed on the synaptic package manager, which limits what programs
[05:55] <marcie> i can use considerably.
[05:55] <CatalinuX>  ubuntu+1
[05:55] <oskar_> allo
[05:55] <arrick1> hanasaki, someone wrote tabs and spaces into their html code instead of <&nobsp>
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Ie  never heard of people having to reformat their ipods under linux.
[05:55] <marcie> clearer?
[05:55] <salty> is there any commands i can enter in at a terminal level to set the external HD as default?
[05:55] <hanasaki> arrick1:  wow
[05:55] <ompaul> marcie, now if I had a player I would know how to do it :)P
[05:55] <blue_ant> I need a distro with a modern 2.6 kernel to support the Perc4 controllers, and hyperthreading well... and sarge has megaraid working only in 2.4 kernel but of course no support for more than 4 GB and bad HT... at least Ubuntu has megaraid working in 2.6 with good HT support... I hoped also more than 4 GB of ram...
[05:55] <marcie> it's unnessary excpet for warryanty issues
[05:55] <Curtman> marcie: What kind of MP3 player do you have for starters?
[05:56] <hanasaki>  	???????????????  so these are all tab/space?
[05:56] <arrick1> yep
[05:56] <arrick1> or incorrectly formatted <> lines
[05:56] <hanasaki> http://www.bloglines.com/register   <= arrick1  can you tell me if you get them on this page?
[05:56] <jadaz87> hello does anyone whether fglrx-control works with all ati radeon cards?
[05:56] <hanasaki> jadaz87:  i gave up on ati for linux.. nv "just works"
[05:57] <wizzlefish> ompaul - the CD that I copied data from had a whole bunch of folders in it, and it was all read-only
[05:57] <andres_> hi ppl
[05:57] <arrick1> hanasaki, I use firefox and nope I dont get them, its a IE thing that I have learned about while learning html
[05:57] <andres_> respect
[05:57] <wizzlefish> then I did "chmod -R 777"
[05:57] <arrick1> !enter
[05:57] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:57] <linux6754> wheRE I can found the version 2.6.16 o later in deb format?????????
[05:57] <hanasaki> arrick1:  i have firefox also.. and get those..   any thoughts on that?
[05:57] <serp> why isn't the latest firefox in apt-get ?
[05:58] <arrick1> that I cant answer, I dont know why your getting it like that, is that your page?
[05:58] <andres_> i have a webcam problem: my system freeze when I try to set i up?
[05:58] <marcie> Sony Nw-E403, as i said...there seemed to be similar problems with IPOD and better warranty for my player. It uses it's own program to format songs generally which might not be available on Linux. This gives me a good display of what is on the player, another feature i like (one you can not get except with the more expensive IPods)
[05:58] <andres_> any idea
[05:58] <hanasaki> nope.. its a search engine andres_
[05:58] <hanasaki> part of ask.com
[05:58] <bryanl> can you install ubuntu from the live cd?
[05:59] <marcie> It's generally a player i'm happy with and the sole reason i would want to use a windows emulator
[05:59] <arrick1> I cant answer that one unless your version might not have all the plugins it needs for the page
[05:59] <arrick1> hanasaki, ^^
[05:59] <salty> ?Does anyone know the easiest way of setting an External HD as primary storage for doc's and programs, whilslt still running from LiveCD?
[06:00] <ompaul> wizzlefish, chmod  -R 777 dirname/* the dir name will not change as it is controlled by the group
[06:00] <hanasaki> ah.. not sure i ssee any plugsin .. but ok..
[06:00] <tjb891> if i install a program with wine how easy is it to remove it?
[06:00] <hanasaki> can you tell me.. on the page   http://www.bloglines.com/?Lang=         what lang is under english and what lang is under deutsch?
[06:00] <arrick1> thats all I can think of unless your firefox is borked, try some other pages yet?
[06:00] <wizzlefish> ompaul - OK, I got it working
[06:01] <cg> test
[06:01] <ompaul> wizzlefish, if you sudoed all users on the box can walk around those files
[06:01] <mabus> fail
[06:01] <ompaul> !test
[06:01] <ubotu> Failed.
[06:01] <linux6754> who can help me with a kernel problem installation????????????
[06:01] <marcie> example: IPODS require a extra 80$ for warranty that will cover the battery, a common problem (and they will only do it for windows and macs). Mine was covered for a year on it's own and another 2 years of coverage was only $30
[06:01] <arrick1> hanasaki, the top one is english
[06:01] <marcie> These are Canadian figures
[06:01] <hanasaki> under english.. the 2nd line
[06:01] <arrick1> hanasaki, dutch is the forth one down
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> marcie,  check out qemu for your emu needs
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[06:01] <hanasaki> and under deutsh
[06:01] <arrick1> nope not viewable
[06:01] <linux6754> who can help me with a kernel problem installation????????????
[06:01] <ompaul> linux6754, I have given you the answer to your question, you seem to be missing the info do you want me to message it to you
[06:02] <marcie> gemu?
[06:02] <hanasaki> the 5th line
[06:02] <cg> test
[06:02] <arrick1> they are blank lines
[06:02] <hanasaki> thanks.. onmy ine they have bullets
[06:02] <ompaul> !patience
[06:02] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[06:02] <arrick1> hanasaki, they are blank lines probably put there for later translations
[06:02] <hanasaki> so you have english then french..
[06:02] <warreng> so i have a keyboard that has special buttons like a back and forward button... can i map the back button to "ctrl+pagedown" and forward to "ctrl+pageup"
[06:02] <arrick1> I do that on some of my sites too
[06:02] <marcie> could i install it without synaptic manager (my next problem...why i'm looking for a book specific to ubuntu not linux)
[06:02] <linux6754> I m sorry but I m new in linux
[06:02] <arrick1> yep
[06:02] <hanasaki> thanks
[06:02] <arrick1> np
[06:03] <ompaul> linux6754, so why even go near the kernel there is so much more to do than that
[06:03] <linux6754> and I can' t found the file in the web page
[06:03] <eod_punk> hello all
[06:03] <zeeeeee> hi all, i installed 5.10 in vmware. i can't change the resolution; i want to lower it, but when i do (using the Preferences > Screen Resolution) the screen gets completely garbled (and reverts back after the timeout). according to http://tinyurl.com/zw3ba i need to lower the color depth (24 to 16) but why? isn't it working fine at 24-bit right now?
[06:04] <eod_punk> I just wanted to stop in and say thanks to everyone that helped me, I finaly got my wifi working on my laptop
[06:04] <ompaul> linux6754, well ctrl+f usually searches
[06:04] <ompaul> !resolution
[06:04] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:04] <marcie> I will look there. I have a completely different problem. and i appreciate all the help. I am used to managing my cookies and keeping them down to about 30 i need, erasing the rest. I only found one program that worked on cookies and it did nothing when i started it (from the synapic interface).
[06:04] <ompaul> zeeeeee, ^^^^
[06:05] <zeeeeee> ompaul: that's not my problem
[06:07] <marcie> the cookie management is for privacy...i found i was erasing 90 every few days. It also means i can go back to sites that require restration if i erase their cookie (i use this mainly for newspaper reading)
[06:07] <andres_> eixit
[06:07] <marcie> i used "cookie monster" on windows...if that helps at all
[06:08] <arrick1> ew
[06:08] <eod_punk> now I need to fiugure out why IE6 doesn't work after installing the activeX plugin
[06:08] <ubuntu> madre fuck
[06:09] <marcie> IE is a windows program i think...wouldn't work under X-Windows
[06:09] <eod_punk> thru wine that is
[06:09] <marcie> is there another channel where my questions are more appropriate...i know most of the questions here are for installation
[06:10] <marcie> or very specific ubuntu problems
[06:10] <ompaul> marcie, try #ubuntu-offtopic they might entertain you
[06:10] <marcie> Ok i'll try going there...thank you.
[06:11] <arrick1> hey, i just foudn Rutebook in synaptic, wow, and I searched for days trying to find it
[06:11] <marcie> exit
[06:11] <ompaul> arrick1, and there it was with apt-cache search utebook
[06:11] <arrick1> haha
[06:11] <arrick1> thanks
[06:11] <iocaste> arrick: what's rutebook?
[06:12] <arrick1> a linux tutorial
[06:12] <iocaste> ah
[06:12] <cg> a
[06:13] <eod_punk> do you people that hang out in here to help others just do it for fun?
[06:13] <arrick1> yep, thats how it works
[06:13] <DSteele> no im paid hourly
[06:13] <arrick1> !patience
[06:13] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[06:13] <LinuxJones> eod_punk: yeah
[06:14] <eod_punk> you all rock then
[06:14] <arrick1> DSteele, who pays you?
[06:14] <zeeeeee> how do i find out what my current X session's color depth is?
[06:14] <DSteele> arrick1, microsoft :)
[06:14] <arrick1> haha
[06:14] <arrick1> thats funny
[06:14] <LinuxJones> eod_punk: it's nice to help people who in turn will help someone else :)
[06:14] <eod_punk> true
[06:14] <ompaul> it is not how to use Ubuntu but its interesting, it does some stuff different - as it is entitled to - note su in the place of sudo info that is rpm over .deb but not bad all the same
[06:14] <DSteele> im  paid to misinform
[06:15] <arrick1> DSteele, then be quiet please?
[06:15] <arrick1> haha
[06:15] <ompaul> !patience
[06:15] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[06:15] <mabus> eod_punk: Most of us are people like me... intermediate people who have many questions of their own, but sit in here even when they don't... most of the same questions get asked again and again so I will answer one if I see it. And then you got a handful of gurus, and a ton of newbies, with a high turnover rate.
[06:15] <eod_punk> I know I extremely appreciate the help i've received getting ubuntu up and running on my laptop
[06:15] <ompaul> eod_punk, ^^^^
[06:15] <ompaul> mabus, are we in the same channel? :-)
[06:15] <Tedd> Grar to Gentoo.
[06:16] <eod_punk> I was so excited to see the wireless signal bar go to full stregnth
[06:16] <mabus> ompaul: I don't get it... but for the record I included you as a guru. :P
[06:16] <DSteele> are there any wireless G usb adapters that are supported by ubuntu?
[06:16] <ompaul> eod_punk, the fan club meets in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic, we (try) to keep this one stuck tightly to support :-) hang about and have fun
[06:17] <arrick1> yes there are DSteele `
[06:17] <eod_punk> ok thanks
[06:17] <Tedd> Grehhhhhh. I gotta shower.
[06:17] <robbee> ok
[06:17] <ompaul> mabus, hmmm see what you got gnomefreak doing .... ohh now
[06:17] <gnomefreak> ;)
[06:17] <robbee> I just installed "badger"
[06:17] <steve343> ok ive tried restarting and a lot of otherthings
[06:17] <arrick1> belkin model no F5D7010 works out of the box
[06:18] <arrick1> robbee, you mean breezy, as its better known here?
[06:18] <robbee> ype
[06:18] <robbee> yep
[06:18] <arrick1> ok
[06:18] <steve343> on restarting i get the error msg "Could not look up internet address for .
[06:18] <mabus> DSteele: Mine is a DWL-G520, works pretty good.
[06:18] <arrick1> DSteele, did you see my last>
[06:18] <robbee> anyone ever use any exterior grade Access points?
[06:18] <DSteele> Yes arrick1 thanks
[06:18] <arrick1> yep
[06:19] <arrick1> have many in my system
[06:19] <robbee> really? what brand?
[06:19] <DSteele> hmm I was looking at a belkin I wonder if its the same
[06:19] <steve343> "this will prevent GNOME from operating correctly, It may be possible to correct the problem by adding to the file /etc/hosts
[06:19] <arrick1> various, hang on will get the list
[06:19] <robbee> thx
[06:19] <marcie> can i get the name for off topic chats for ubuntu?
[06:19] <steve343> anyone know whats wrong please?
[06:19] <gnomefreak> marcie: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:20] <mabus> DSteele: If you're going to do a wider range of stuff, like packet sniffing/injection, get one with a prism2 chipset.
[06:20] <eugman> +p Hey, Is it possible to make a boot disk for ubuntu? Say if grub get's overwritten and I will be to busy to redo it for a while.
[06:20] <_jason> steve343: can you paste the first line of /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname please?
[06:20] <LinuxJones> steve343: do you have a localhost entry in your /etc/hosts file ?
[06:21] <arrick1> robbee, we use a few of these http://www.smartbridges.com/products/appo.asp and my techs want to switch all of them to these
[06:21] <robbee> Thanks arrick
[06:21] <steve343> one sec i cant paste
[06:21] <mabus> eugman: the install cd? :P If grub gets overwritten, take the install cd and go to expert install, and just install grub.
[06:21] <steve343> on a diferent machine
[06:21] <robbee> someone in my company prices out linksys @ $384 on newegg
[06:21] <steve343> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
[06:22] <steve343> is the first line
[06:22] <eXistenZ> Has anyone succeded to sync between evolution <-> google calendar or thunderbird <-> google calendar ?
[06:22] <A[D] minS> guys how i can know active IPs which online in my network
[06:22] <A[D] minS> want to ping all my network to know who is online
[06:22] <Johny> Hi ;))
[06:22] <hanasaki> arrick1: you still here?
[06:23] <arrick1> yeah
[06:23] <steve343> the is nothing in hostname
[06:23] <_jason> steve343: and /etc/hostname?
[06:23] <hanasaki> they were japanese/chinese fonts
[06:23] <eugman> Mabus, I'm going to be getting ubuntu running for a relative at some point in the future who I see on a less than daily basis. At someone point windows 98 will be installed on a certain partition for specific reasons and I like a boot disk for ubuntu until I can reinstall grub.
[06:23] <_jason> steve343: pick a hostname for yourself
[06:23] <LinuxJones> steve343: you need a hostname
[06:23] <steve343> i cant edit that file
[06:23] <javi_> hi
[06:23] <hanasaki> arrick1: problem solved :)
[06:24] <bakert> steve343, put "sudo" before the edit command
[06:24] <arrick1> ok what was the problem?
[06:24] <javi_> somebody has problems with Xorg && ati && dapper -> from 2 days ago ?
[06:24] <Jowi> A[D] minS: ping broadcast: "ping -b 192.168.0.0"
[06:24] <mabus> eugman: Well what I described is essentially a boot disc.
[06:24] <_jason> steve343: that's ok, let's say you want your hostname to be 'steve', you would add it to the end of the first line in /etc/hosts and put it in /etc/hostname as well.  If sudo isn't working, just reboot in recovery mode and use 'nano'
[06:24] <steve343> sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostname()
[06:24] <linux6754>  i downloade kernel 2.6.15.2.tar.gz ... I must install it in recovery mode in ubuntu....what can i do?????? hel me please
[06:24] <hanasaki> arrick1:  they were japanese/chinese fonts
[06:24] <minerale> which man page would cover sytax for [u,d,f] mask ... I am not understanding how this mask works
[06:24] <minerale> (ie when you mount volumes)
[06:24] <arrick1> oh ok
[06:25] <_jason> steve343: in /etc/hostname, you would put 'steve' by itself (not the same as /etc/hosts)
[06:25] <hanasaki> arrick1:  install a font w/ kochi and mincho in the naem
[06:25] <serp> where is the Applications menu stored? I wanna edit it manually
[06:25] <arrick1> I guess that would be true, cause firefox would be guessing
[06:25] <linux6754> who can help me please???
[06:25] <arrick1> haha
[06:25] <hanasaki> your blank bullets will go away.. mine showed the JIS double byte code
[06:25] <steve343> but i cant edit wither of them
[06:25] <arrick1> ok
[06:25] <linux6754> hy even go near the kernel there is so much more to do than that
[06:25] <arrick1> well, I'll be back in a bit guys
[06:26] <bakert> steve343, hmm ok i seem to have come in in the middle of this one ... i thought you wanted to edit /etc/hosts - sorry!
[06:26] <_jason> steve343: reboot in recovery mode (it's a selection in the grub prompt)
[06:26] <linux6754> i downloade kernel 2.6.15.2.tar.gz ... I must install it in recovery mode in ubuntu....what can i do?????? hel me please
[06:26] <ENE|Toxic> Without placing an if statement before this piece of code, what does it do ? (in bash) [ -f file ] 
[06:26] <gnomefreak> linux6754: why didnt you just install dapper drake it has 2.6.15-21 kernel
[06:26] <steve343> sudo sudookie
[06:26] <_jason> steve343: once there, you would use the editor 'nano', so you would do: nano /etc/hosts and then the same for /etc/hostname
[06:27] <steve343> so i need to just chang hostname or both?
[06:27] <_jason> steve343: both, you need to make the /etc/hostname file contain 'steve' by itself.  Then you need to add 'steve' to the end of the first line in /etc/hosts that you pasted before
[06:28] <morphix> are there any how-to's for setting up samba users using shell and not GUI?.. i am too lazy too remember how to do it all again
[06:28] <steve343> okie
[06:28] <linux6754>  drapper is equalt to breezy??
[06:28] <linux6754> what can i do for installa kernel?????????
[06:28] <_jason> !dapper
[06:28] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[06:28] <nix4me> anyone having print share problems with dapper?
[06:29] <nix4me> i cant get my windows boxes to print to dapper printer
[06:29] <bakert> nix4me, or try #ubuntu+1 group
[06:29] <nix4me> ok
[06:30] <vapor> Greetings ubuntu earthlings
[06:30] <diego> hola a todos hay alguien que hable espaol?
[06:30] <steve343> ok
[06:30] <javi_> diego, yo pero esto es un canal de habla inglesa
[06:30] <Johny> ~dapper
[06:30] <Johny> !dapper
[06:30] <steve343> in nano im getting no such file or directory
[06:30] <_jason> !es
[06:30] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[06:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:30] <vapor> Which is better, Evelooution email or thunderbird
[06:31] <Johny> !pl
[06:31] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:31] <_jason> steve343: what did you type exactly?
[06:31] <javi_> !en
[06:31] <ubotu> from memory, en is Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.
[06:31] <zeeeeee> hi all, i installed 5.10 in vmware. i can't change the resolution; i want to lower it, but when i do (using the Preferences > Screen Resolution) the screen gets completely garbled (and reverts back after the timeout). following http://tinyurl.com/zw3ba and http://tinyurl.com/nsnq6, i lowered DefaultDepth to 16, but didn't work. any other ideas? i've also posted my problem to http://tinyurl.com/ne4bm
[06:31] <Sionide> lol @ queen's english speakers
[06:32] <vapor> Which is better, Evolution email or thunderbird
[06:32] <steve343> in nano
[06:32] <steve343> or to deit the file?
[06:32] <_jason> steve343: both
[06:32] <Sionide> vapor, i prefer thunderbird - try both and see how you get on.. evolution is integrated better
[06:32] <steve343> well i type nano /etc/hostname
[06:32] <steve343> then added steve
[06:32] <steve343> pressed f3
[06:33] <Paul159190> hi there, l need some help any1 here? thanks!
[06:33] <Johny> hallo alle, brachte ich 5.10 in vmware an. ich kann nicht die Auflsung ndern
[06:33] <sander_> Hi everyone!
[06:33] <vapor> Sionide: Is thunderbird difficult to install on ubuntu? Or is their a deb package.
[06:33] <sander_> What is your problem Paul?
[06:33] <steve343> when i tried sudo nano /etc/hostname  i got the useual sudo: unable to lookup via gethostbyname()
[06:33] <Paul159190> I am trying to install ubuntu on my oldworld mac, l get to the part about the mount point, the instructions say " Make a mountpoint and mount the HFS filesystem."
[06:33] <arrick1> anyone, is challenger as good as apache2?
[06:34] <_jason> steve343: no you shouldn't need sudo
[06:34] <arrick1> Roxen Challenger Webserver
[06:34] <Sionide> vapor, sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[06:34] <Paul159190> then it says 'cd /target' l do that, then l type the 'mkdir hfs' just like the manual says then l do 'mount /dev/sda5 hfs -t hfs' but then it tell me no such file or directory
[06:34] <_jason> steve343: f3 is equivalent to ^O right?
[06:34] <Paul159190> what am l doing wrong, l don't get how l make a mount point or anything? :S
[06:34] <sander_> Pff a mac, I wouldnt know anything about that
[06:34] <newbie33> hello, I need ap that would show shared files on the network, ability to search execute etc..
[06:35] <diego> gracias javi
[06:35] <Paul159190> do you know how to make a mount point, l don't even get why l need to make a mount point, lm a linux n00b lol
[06:35] <vapor> thanks Sionide. Was leaning towards Thruderbird side.
[06:35] <diego> y como hago para entrar en un canal espaol?
[06:35] <_jason> Paul159190: why do you replace I with l?
[06:35] <gnomefreak> !es
[06:35] <Sionide> vapor, no trouble:)
[06:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:35] <steve343> well it just says "error writing etc/hostname: no such file or directory"
[06:35] <steve343> yes
[06:35] <eugman> n
[06:35] <eugman> whoops
[06:36] <_jason> steve343: hmm, you sure you put a / in front of the path when you opened nano?
[06:36] <ProN00b> is there any download tool that i can download from multiple sources at once ?
[06:36] <steve343> not entirly now
[06:36] <steve343> ill go have alook
[06:36] <arrick1> yeah apt-get ProN00b
[06:36] <LinuxJones> steve343: it's /etc/hostname
[06:36] <ProN00b> arrick1, wtf are you on ?
[06:37] <arrick1> ubuntu
[06:37] <ProN00b> arrick1, no, i mean in therms of medication
[06:37] <arrick1> oh ok
[06:37] <arrick1> nothing
[06:37] <steve343> yay its working
[06:37] <LinuxJones> steve343: )
[06:37] <arrick1> ProN00b, I have multiple sources for most things in my repos
[06:38] <arrick1> that way if one is down It will pull from another
[06:38] <wizzlefish> I'm having trouble installing Firefox 1.5 - it's not in apt-get, and I have no clue on how to compile the source. I downloaded the binaries, but I'm not sure how to use them either. I'm new to Ubuntu (installed Monday) and this is the first application I've had to install. How would I use the binary?
[06:38] <ProN00b> arrick1, see the "at once" up there
[06:38] <steve343> when im editing the first line in /etc/hosts do i replace the localhost name or add after it
[06:38] <arrick1> oh o, sorry
[06:38] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[06:38] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:38] <gnomefreak> ^^ wizzlefish
[06:38] <wizzlefish> thanks
[06:39] <LinuxJones> steve343: just add it to the end of the first line
[06:39] <Doat> Paul159190, where exactly did you make the directory hfs?
[06:39] <arrick1> ProN00b, I just glance, dont always read the whole thing, but sorry
[06:40] <Paul159190> Dost, l don't know :S
[06:40] <Paul159190> I am a noob, l'm just following what the manual says
[06:40] <Paul159190> l made the hfs at cd /target
[06:40] <Paul159190> but wots target? :S
[06:40] <Doat> Paul159190, try: $ sudo mkdir /media/hfs
[06:41] <daryl> I am running: wine Installer.exe and getting an error in a popup window.  Sorry, the installer could not be initialized.  Unrecognized key "options". (AttributeParser::Parse).  I posted the whole thing into Ubunto pastebin, under user name daryl256.  Could someone take a look?
[06:41] <Paul159190> ok will do
[06:41] <steve343> im still getting the warning msg at the start of ubuntu
[06:41] <arrick1> anyone, is there a way to set up streaming audio that my sterio can pickup?
[06:41] <Doat> Paul159190, and then $ sudo mount /dev/sda6 /media/hfs -t hfs
[06:41] <_jason> steve343: is sudo working now?
[06:41] <arrick1> form my pc wireless?
[06:41] <steve343> nope
[06:41] <steve343> but i havent rebooted yet
[06:41] <steve343> shall i do that?
[06:41] <Doat> Paul159190, or sda5 whatever it is you want to mount
[06:42] <_jason> steve343: hmm paste what the lines look like first
[06:42] <Xenguy> crimsun: hello, long time no chat... I'm wondering if you could help me interpret the current status of that old bug report you requested I file at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/6354 ...
[06:42] <Xenguy> crimsun: For example, I just did the latest Breezy update (kernel and xorg), so I'm wondering if perhaps my sound will now work automagically?  Secondly there is a note at the top of the bug page about alsa-driver in Ubuntu: do I need to do further bug reporting in this regard?  Thanks in advance for your insights.
[06:43] <steve343> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localomain localhost steve
[06:43] <steve343> and steve
[06:43] <daryl> I'm having a problem with wow install.  Anyone able to help?
[06:43] <crimsun> Xenguy: no, I've fixed it in Dapper. Breezy only receives security updates.
[06:44] <Xenguy> crimsun: so my sound should 'just work' in breezy when I dist-upgrade then?
[06:44] <Eroick> can I ask dapper questions in here?
[06:44] <crimsun> Xenguy: to Dapper, yes.
[06:44] <crimsun> Eroick: #ubuntu+1
[06:44] <linux6754> what is the differce betweeb breezy 5.10 and Dapper 6.06 ??????
[06:44] <fede2> Hey guys, I'm having problems with a Creative Labs SB Audigy LS running 2.6.15-21-686 on dapper.
[06:45] <gnomefreak> Eroick: use #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[06:45] <Xenguy> crimsun: er, dapper, right
[06:45] <daryl> Having a Wow problem, need some help.  dont' want to spam chat.  I posted the example up a few screens int he chat.
[06:45] <crimsun> fede2: #ubuntu+1
[06:45] <fede2> crimsun: Thanks.
[06:45] <tesla> hi!!
[06:46] <Xenguy> crimsun: thanks -- and the alsa-driver note requires no action on my part?
[06:46] <crimsun> Xenguy: none
[06:46] <Xenguy> crimsun: thank you again
[06:46] <crimsun> Xenguy: np
[06:46] <daryl> crimsun: when you get done w/him could you look at my problem?
[06:46] <jadaz87> what is the dofference between IMps/2 and ExplorerPS/2? in reference to a mouse??
[06:47] <Subhuman> Imps/2 is just a generic term for a ps/2 mouse i think.
[06:47] <aphesz> Hi, im having problem with my xserver. I've upgraded it via apt-get last night and now it can only detect / run on 640x480 resolution only.
[06:47] <Subhuman> and explorer sounds like a specific mouse make
[06:48] <jadaz87> which one should i pick?
[06:48] <jadaz87> lol
[06:48] <squiddle> jadaz87  IMPS/2 at first
[06:48] <gnomefreak> jadaz87: the imps/2
[06:48] <aphesz> anyone can help me ?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell aphesz -about fixres
[06:49] <newbie33> what app could be used for show shared files on the network, ability to search execute etc..
[06:49] <crimsun> daryl: what's your issue?
[06:49] <steve343> Horray everything is working after the reboot
[06:49] <steve343> sudo the network program
[06:49] <daryl> crimsun:I am running: wine Installer.exe and getting an error in a popup window.  Sorry, the installer could not be initialized.  Unrecognized key "options". (AttributeParser::Parse).  I posted the whole thing into Ubunto pastebin, under user name daryl256.
[06:50] <crimsun> daryl: sorry, not a wine person.
[06:50] <steve343> while does changing the hostname to nothing do all that damage tho?
[06:50] <daryl> crimsun: doh!
[06:50] <gnomefreak> daryl: you might have better luck in #winehq
[06:50] <daryl> oh? thank you Gnomefreak
[06:51] <gnomefreak> yw personally i stay away from wine and the like
[06:51] <steve343> thank to all thouse that helped
[06:51] <steve343> see you soon no doubt but i'll try and read as much as i can
[06:52] <Paul159190> Ok guys l now have a new problem
[06:52] <lufis> How can I get tabs in Firefox to close when I click on them with the middle mouse button?
[06:52] <aphesz> gnomefreak: thanks. i'll try that first.
[06:52] <gnomefreak> Paul159190: can you explain more?
[06:52] <Paul159190> I am on the very last step of installing ubuntu, l am copying a file but there is not enough space left for it, so does anybody know of any crap file l can delete from the ubuntu installation @ hda6 to make space
[06:53] <gnomefreak> Paul159190: how big of a partition did you give for ubuntu
[06:53] <daryl> gnomefreak: i'm trying to run world of warcraft.  You said you avoid wine, etc.  but isn't that the only way to run World of Warcraft?
[06:54] <gnomefreak> !wow
[06:54] <ubotu> wow is, like, To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[06:54] <Paul159190> ok nvm, its not the ubuntu partition which is full its my mac os partition, mmm l will think of something to delete, thanks anyway :D lets hope this all goes right
[06:54] <daryl> gnomefreak: yes, thats what I've been following.
[06:54] <administrator__> hello, can somebody help me?
[06:54] <administrator__> http://pastebin.com/702026
[06:55] <gnomefreak> daryl: ok hold on a sec
[06:55] <Paul159190> whats the delete command lol?
[06:55] <gnomefreak> Paul159190: rm
[06:55] <Paul159190> ty :)
[06:55] <bakert> Paul159190, rm but best to use it with -i flag
[06:55] <Aven> hey, anyone know how to set the default media player?
[06:55] <gnomefreak> Paul159190: depends on what you are deleting
[06:55] <bakert> Paul159190, as it is dangerous!
[06:55] <administrator__> gnomefreak Paul159190: depends on what you are deleting
[06:55] <bakert> Aven, right click a file of the right type, choose properties and look at the application (or something like that) tab
[06:55] <Paul159190> well, l does this command look right rm 'cd /System\ Folder/fonts'
[06:56] <Paul159190> its my mac os system folder , l need to delete something so fonts can go
[06:56] <bakert> Aven, its actually "open with" tab
[06:56] <Aven> bakert: I want it to be default for all media players though
[06:56] <Aven> not just one file
[06:56] <daharon> hey guys, I'm trying out Ubuntu, been using Gentoo for years.  It seems that a lot of packages mentioned in the forums don't show up in Synaptic (like flashplugin-nonfree).  I did an apt-get update
[06:56] <Howitzer> Does somebody know of a way  to make the status-bar in Firefox as small as possible?, it's really thick which bothers me
[06:56] <bakert> Aven, will work with all files of that type from then on.  not sure how you do multiple file types at once.
[06:56] <administrator__> http://pastebin.com/702026
[06:56] <administrator__> please help :-/
[06:56] <knanand> Can someone help me to install mozilla suite 1.7??
[06:56] <gnomefreak> daryl: the exe you are trying to run is that the wine.exe or for the game?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> knanand: sudo apt-get install mozilla
[06:57] <gnomefreak> wait
[06:57] <gnomefreak> knanand: 1.7?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> 1.5 is barely stable
[06:57] <Aven> what's the latest version?
[06:57] <Aven> of mozilla
[06:58] <knanand> i'm talking of mozilla suite not firefox...
[06:58] <gnomefreak> Aven: 1.5.0.3
[06:58] <Paul159190> or is it rm -'cd /System\ Folder/fonts'
[06:58] <iocaste> dahron: you need to enable the multiverse repositories, read this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:58] <Aven> ah
[06:58] <Paul159190> l mean rm -- -'cd /System\ Folder/fonts'
[06:58] <gnomefreak> knanand: what version is in your repos
[06:58] <Urza> hay guys, anybody got any ideas why my brand new ubuntu installation will connect to a few websites, but won't to most of them :(
[06:58] <knanand> i recently downloaded mozilla 1.7 installer for linux from mozilla.org i followed the instructions in readme but i'm not able to install it gives an error saying "Fatal error 606 could not read readme" how can i solve this??
[06:59] <jazzanova> hi
[06:59] <jazzanova> where do I get alsa-lib-jack-plugin package ?
[07:00] <Paul159190> hey guys, how do l remove a folder called 'fonts'
[07:00] <Paul159190> when l try it just tells me that rm: fonts: is a drectory
[07:00] <Howitzer> "sudo apt-get install alsa-lib-jack-plugin"
[07:00] <daharon> hey guys, I'm trying out Ubuntu, been using Gentoo for years.  It seems that a lot of packages mentioned in the forums don't show up in Synaptic (like flashplugin-nonfree).  I did an apt-get update
[07:00] <iocaste> dahron: you need to enable the multiverse repositories, read this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:01] <jazzanova> howitzer: its not in the db. maybe i am missing some src lines ?
[07:01] <PrimoTurbo> What's the command to view your cpu info?
[07:01] <magical_trevsky> Paul159190, rm -r fonts
[07:01] <Paul159190> ty ::)
[07:01] <tritium> daharon: and universe repositories as well
[07:01] <magical_trevsky> PrimoTurbo, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:01] <daharon> iocaste: thanks
[07:01] <PrimoTurbo> thnx
[07:02] <PrimoTurbo> Can u tell me what this will do? sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[07:02] <Howitzer> jazzanova, in Dapper, it's called libbio2jack0 you should do 'apt-cache search jack alsa'
[07:02] <PrimoTurbo> it will stop powernowd but what is powernowd?
[07:03] <magical_trevsky> powernowd - control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface
[07:03] <dooglus> how can I tell nautilus to use mplayer to open .avi files instead of totem?
[07:04] <_jason> !defaultapp
[07:04] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[07:04] <jazzanova> howitzer: whats Dapper ?
[07:04] <arcade> .. what's the right way to get the newest kernel version to work with ubuntu? :)
[07:04] <Howitzer> the testing version of Ubuntu
[07:05] <Howitzer> it's more up to date, but you can get more problems because it has not been so thoroughly tested as Breezy is
[07:05] <jazzanova> howitzer: got it.
[07:05] <Howitzer> :-)
[07:05] <samuel> anyone know a page in ubuntu.com with a list of repo mirrors?
[07:05] <Howitzer> is it for Wine btw?
[07:06] <dooglus> _jason: I right click and say 'open with'.  I see 'mplayer' in the list.  will clicking it change the default?
[07:06] <_jason> dooglus: no, click on properties then open with tab
[07:06] <dooglus> _jason: magical!  thanks a lot!
[07:07] <gnomefreak> !sources
[07:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:07] <dooglus> also, is there something I need to download so that the default 'movie player' app can play .avi movies?  mplayer plays them, but movie player won't
[07:07] <gnomefreak> ^^^^ samuel
[07:07] <linuxcrazy> hey
[07:07] <_jason> dooglus: use totem-xine
[07:07] <Ohzie> I have read/write errors on part of my hard drive. The system boots, it just takes a long time. Is there any app I can scan it with that will mark the messed up parts to be ignored?
[07:07] <Urza> okay this is really bugging me now, I installed Ubuntu, did all updates, so I know the net connection is working, then I can go on ubuntu website, which runs rather slow, but I can't get google to load, or most other sites I try, does anybody have any ideas why this is happening and how to fix it??
[07:08] <samuel> !easysource
[07:08] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:08] <dooglus> _jason: I heard that totem-gstreamer was supposed to be great in dapper.  does it still not work?
[07:09] <_jason> dooglus: I don't know, I haven't tried it
[07:09] <linuxcrazy> www.kororaa.org
[07:09] <tesla> gstreamer don't play videos correctly on dapper
[07:10] <salmiak> ?
[07:10] <tesla> no sound stream
[07:10] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: keep that in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:10] <linuxcrazy> www.kororaa.org , kororaa will, I promise.
[07:10] <linuxcrazy> ok, sorry
[07:10] <linuxcrazy> will do
[07:10] <salmiak> sry wrong channel
[07:10] <linuxcrazy> you're right
[07:10] <H0lyD4wg> how do i keep mounted partitions from appearing on the desktop?
[07:11] <linuxcrazy> chmod a-rwx
[07:11] <linuxcrazy> on the partition
[07:11] <linuxcrazy> that should make it invisible lol
[07:11] <linuxcrazy> how many people are on this channel?!
[07:12] <scifi> 755
[07:12] <linuxcrazy> no!
[07:12] <linuxcrazy> really?!
[07:12] <linuxcrazy> wow!!!
[07:12] <administrator__> lies :)
[07:12] <scifi> lol it says top-right
[07:12] <administrator__> 757 :P
[07:12] <scifi> su :P
[07:12] <linuxcrazy> 756!
[07:12] <administrator__> 755
[07:12] <linuxcrazy> wow!!!
[07:12] <linuxcrazy> wow wow wow!!!!
[07:12] <ChrisC> during my weekly security update today, I'm told that I must upgrade 68 packages ... looks to be mostly x.org stuff.  How do I tell which drivers my x.org setup is using?
[07:12] <ChrisC> so I can uninstall the unused driver packages
[07:12] <livingdaylight> linuxcrazy: are you ok?
[07:13] <linuxcrazy> drivers for nvidia?
[07:13] <pablo> hi! im using ubuntu 5.10 and want to upgrade to latest verison of firefox.. if i install the .tar.gz from firefox site i wont be managed by ubuntus debian based dpkg system?
[07:13] <ChrisC> yes
[07:13] <lespaul> nvidia.ocm
[07:13] <tesla> ChrisC: what drivers??
[07:13] <lespaul> .com
[07:13] <tesla> video drivers?
[07:13] <_jason> !FF1.5
[07:13] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:13] <linuxcrazy> just download the nvidia drivers
[07:13] <scifi> hey guys how do i safely uninstall/remove sfotware ?
[07:13] <ChrisC> looks like both video and input drivers
[07:13] <kambing> helloo
[07:13] <linuxcrazy> ChrisC www.nvidia.com
[07:13] <_jason> scifi: use synaptic
[07:13] <kambing> can anyone help me..
[07:13] <Nihil85> hi! ha had a problem when i did "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel".. it says me that "Build of the package fglrx-kernel-source failed!" Then i can skip, stop or view the log. what can i do?
[07:13] <linuxcrazy> just run the shell
[07:13] <tesla> pablo no
[07:13] <pablo> is there a way to update firefox via the dpkg system?
[07:13] <ChrisC> linuxcrazy: you misunderstand, I'll restate momentarily
[07:13] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[07:13] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:14] <kambing> heloo peeps..
[07:14] <_jason> pablo: not in breezy.  Dapper has firefox1.5 (just wait 3 weeks for final release)
[07:14] <linuxcrazy> too much flooding, lets start Ubuntu+5 ok?
[07:14] <scifi> _jason: ok thats ok for stuff ive used to install with synaptic, but what about games ive downloaded ?
[07:14] <livingdaylight> linuxcrazy: are you crazy about linux?
[07:14] <_jason> scifi: how have you installed them?
[07:14] <kambing> i dont know how can i browse my other patition ?
[07:14] <samuel> is xgl in any repository of ubuntu?
[07:14] <dooglus> dapper has firefox 1.5.0.2 - well, mine does anyway
[07:14] <gnomefreak> samuel: only in dapper
[07:14] <_jason> !xgl
[07:14] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:14] <livingdaylight> pablo: i would just wait three weeks for dapper release
[07:14] <maswan> in.tfpd is telling me this: "in.tftpd[8572] : received address was not AF_INET, please check your inetd config" and exiting, anyone with a clue why?
[07:14] <kambing> i cant fine my other partition...waaaaaaaaaa :((
[07:15] <scifi> _jason: erm i used terminal, its americas army
[07:15] <kambing> can anyone help me
[07:15] <gnomefreak> kambing: ntfs or fat?
[07:15] <pablo> ok.. and will dapper installation update my 5.10 system?
[07:15] <samuel> gnomefreak, universe?
[07:15] <pablo> i mean.. it wont touch config files etc?
[07:15] <linuxcrazy> people please go to Ubuntu+5 we have too much overflow!!
[07:15] <livingdaylight> pablo: dapper will be the latest os
[07:15] <_jason> scifi: you'll have to read the documentation for it or find some support for america's army
[07:15] <gnomefreak> samuel: are you on dapper?
[07:15] <kambing> gnomefreak ntfs
[07:15] <linuxcrazy> channel is up
[07:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kambing about ntfs
[07:15] <tesla> hey guys ave you check http://en.fon.com/  the fonero movement
[07:15] <livingdaylight> pablo: you can either reinstall dapper as full os, or upgrade distro from breezy
[07:15] <kambing> hehe
[07:16] <samuel> gnomefreak, debian sid
[07:16] <Nihil85> hi! ha had a problem when i did "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel".. it says me that "Build of the package fglrx-kernel-source failed!" Then i can skip, stop or view the log. what can i do?
[07:16] <gnomefreak> samuel: you would have to ask in #debian
[07:16] <livingdaylight> fonero movement?
[07:16] <pablo> livingdaylight: thanks!
[07:16] <livingdaylight> np
[07:16] <ubuntu_fan> Hey all... I just added a friend to my machine for some help, and he informed me that all of my home directories are fully readable.  How do I fix this?
[07:16] <tesla> yes the fon thing
[07:16] <tesla> http://en.fon.com/
[07:16] <samuel> gnomefreak, ill give you their answer "itl be in after xorg 7 is in"
[07:16] <gnomefreak> samuel: yes xorg 7 is only xorg that will run it
[07:16] <samuel> gnomefreak, xorg 7 has been in for like a month now, and no xgl!!!
[07:17] <chrisbudden14> hey
[07:17] <gnomefreak> samuel: this is not debian this is ubuntu
[07:17] <linuxcrazy> people please go to Ubuntu+5
[07:17] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: stop
[07:17] <ChrisC> My weekly security update wants to update packages that I don't actually use (but apparently are installed) like "xserver-xorg-input-hyperpen" and "xserver-xorg-driver-tseng".  How can I tell for sure which xorg drivers are actually in service on my system?
[07:17] <scifi> _jason: ive found an uninstall shell script in americasarmy folder, shall i just double-click it ?
[07:17] <samuel> gnomefreak, i know, but its similar enough to be mostly compatible i think no?
[07:17] <linuxcrazy> listen, the channel is getting overloaed!
[07:17] <gnomefreak> samuel: no
[07:17] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: the channel is fine
[07:17] <_jason> scifi: I suppose it's just as safe as running the install
[07:18] <gnomefreak> theres only 755 peopel in here
[07:18] <ubuntu_fan> Nobody knows how to fix my readable home directory?  How come Ubuntu comes set up like that
[07:18] <linuxcrazy> FINE, I guess I'll lighten the load a bit!
[07:18] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_fan: man chmod
[07:18] <kambing> oh ok....how can i creat a
[07:18] <kambing> shortcut
[07:18] <kambing> in desktop?
[07:18] <kambing> i wann make a shortcut frm my partion 2 desktop
[07:18] <Nihil85> hi! ha had a problem when i did "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel".. it says me that "Build of the package fglrx-kernel-source failed!" Then i can skip, stop or view the log. what can i do?
[07:19] <gnomefreak> kambing: once you mount it it will be there
[07:19] <yetistomps> !multimedia
[07:19] <ubotu> multimedia is probably for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[07:19] <gnomefreak> should
[07:19] <ubuntu_fan> !gentoosmite ubuntu_fan
[07:19] <ubotu> ubuntu_fan: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:19] <ChrisC> ubuntu_fan: cd ; cd .. ; sudo chmod 750 username
[07:19] <ChrisC> ubuntu_fan: but that might have unintended consequences
[07:19] <ChrisC> ubuntu_fan: just off the top of my head there
[07:20] <dooglus> ubotu: sudo chmod 755 ~
[07:20] <ubotu> dooglus: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:20] <ubuntu_fan> ChrisC: Oh? :(  My buddy said thats a pretty bad thing to have world-readable
[07:20] <andres_> i have no idea how to install a driver under ubuntu
[07:20] <tesla> andres_:
[07:20] <kambing> gnomefreak how can i mount it? n ....i just copy a mp3 to d desktop n it seem like there is a small lock icon thr...how can i lock it?
[07:20] <_jason> ubuntu_fan: do you have other users on your computer?
[07:20] <tesla> what driver do u need?
[07:20] <ubuntu_fan> _jason: Yes, a few
[07:20] <ChrisC> ubuntu_fan: true!
[07:20] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_fan: what ever you have there that you dont want read/wrote by all right click it go to the permissions tab and change them
[07:21] <ChrisC> gnomefreak: spoken like a true GUI user :/
[07:21] <_jason> ubuntu_fan: it's not really a bad thing, it's a matter of preference
[07:21] <tesla> andres_:
[07:21] <ptdas> server irc.freenode.net
[07:21] <gnomefreak> ChrisC: i use text mainly
[07:21] <andres_> i have a typhoon webshot II
[07:21] <gnomefreak> ;)
[07:21] <teh> so i have a .ttf font i want to install.. can't figure out how.. any tips?
[07:21] <Jowi> ubuntu_fan: you can use "sudo chmod o-rx ~". that would take away read and execute for "others"
[07:21] <ph8> hi all
[07:21] <tesla> is a web camera?
[07:21] <ubuntu_fan> _jason: I see... Thanks, man
[07:21] <ph8> ah n/m, hopping to dapper chan
[07:21] <andres_> tesla: yes
[07:21] <Nihil85> hi! ha had a problem when i did "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel".. it says me that "Build of the package fglrx-kernel-source failed!" Then i can skip, stop or view the log. what can i do?
[07:21] <gnomefreak> kambing: did you read the pm ubotu sent you about mounting ntfs
[07:21] <ubuntu_fan> Jowi: Is that the same as chmod 755 ? Which do you reccomend
[07:21] <carl_> I've got an annoying issue whn trying to make menuconf the kernel... it can't seem to find anything basically it calls for headerfiles such as unistd.h and can't find them even though they _MUST_ be there... does anybody have a clue about this?
[07:21] <andres_> is a web cam
[07:21] <tesla> andres_:   hold on  a sec
[07:22] <ChrisC> ubuntu_fan: man chmod !
[07:22] <andres_> tesla: thanks I hold
[07:22] <kambing> gnomefreak i'm looking at it now
[07:22] <ChrisC> ubuntu_fan: also google for it, it'll explain the bitmask
[07:22] <ubuntu_fan> Fair enough
[07:22] <gnomefreak> kambing: just remember you cant write to ntfs from ubuntu
[07:22] <ubuntu_fan> Thanks guys :-)
[07:22] <tesla> andres_:   http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html
[07:22] <livingdaylight> looking for a good monitor
[07:22] <livingdaylight> what is a good tft monitor
[07:22] <ChrisC> I'll re-ask my x.org question later :)
[07:22] <tesla> andres_:   Check taht link
[07:22] <ptdas> #ubuntu-es
[07:22] <carl_> gnomefreak: well if you recompile the kernel... That's why I'm trying to...
[07:23] <Jowi> ubuntu_fan: using numbers (like 755) or text (like u+w) is the same thing but with different methods. "man chmod" will explain it in great detail
[07:23] <jago25_98> fglrx is driving me crazy too
[07:23] <gnomefreak> carl_: huh?
[07:23] <kambing> gnomefreak  oh ok ....but can i access into it?
[07:23] <andres_> tesla: ok I have it, can you tell me how I have to proceed
[07:23] <gnomefreak> kambing: you can read it only
[07:23] <terribleCabbage> Ok, I have a current linux system (Red Hat 9) installed on one partition - /usr, /var, /home, etc all share the same partition. Is there any way to install Ubuntu so that it doesn't splat /home?
[07:23] <kambing> oh ..ok..then how can i read it?
[07:23] <carl_> gnomefreak: I mean... You can write to NTFS if you compile for it in the kernel
[07:23] <kambing> hehe
[07:24] <gnomefreak> kambing: mount it the way the wiki is telling you to
[07:24] <tesla> andres_: you need to make sure your camera is listed on the supported cameras by the spca5xx driver
[07:24] <kambing> ok
[07:24] <andres_> tesla: yes is lised
[07:24] <andres_> tesla: yes is listed
[07:24] <tesla> andres_: then you need to download the source and compile the driver
[07:24] <gnomefreak> carl_: thats too much work for that :(
[07:24] <kambing> wiki ...whois wiki ?
[07:24] <AnAnt> what is gstreamer ?
[07:24] <tesla> before compile you need the kernel headers
[07:24] <pablo> does the firefox version that comes wiht ubuntu 5.10 has any security holes? do these security holes get patches if the systems is up to date?
[07:24] <Nihil85> hi! ha had a problem when i did "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel".. it says me that "Build of the package fglrx-kernel-source failed!" Then i can skip, stop or view the log. what can i do?
[07:25] <voraistos> hey guys, i would like to install nfs client/server onmy ubuntu, which wiki/technique would u propose ?
[07:25] <sharpy> !multimedia
[07:25] <ubotu> multimedia is, like, for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[07:25] <carl_> gnomefreak: nah, that's what I'm trying... but it wont find the libs it needs for some reason :/ highly annoying
[07:25] <tesla> build utilities and GCC compiler on you system
[07:25] <gnomefreak> carl_: make a small fat partition and use that between the 2 fs
[07:25] <terribleCabbage> If I, say, remove all except for /home, and move /home to /home_rh9 (or something), will the Ubuntu installer delete that directory when installing? :S
[07:25] <andres_> tesla: ok, but I don't know how to compile
[07:25] <tesla> make sure you have the tools before compile the driver
[07:25] <gnomefreak> build-essential tesla  ;)
[07:25] <tesla> andres_: you download the zip with the source
[07:25] <Nihil85> hi! ha had a problem when i did "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel".. it says me that "Build of the package fglrx-kernel-source failed!" Then i can skip, stop or view the log. what can i do?
[07:25] <ptdas> #ubuntu-es
[07:25] <gnomefreak> carl_: compiling kernels are not fun nor all that easy
[07:26] <tesla> andre then you extarct the contents to a folder
[07:26] <jago25_98> Nihil85: let me know if you find another way round that problem. I'm installing a new kernel
[07:26] <kambing> ahacks!
[07:26] <andres_> tesla: ok
[07:26] <kambing> ernnn
[07:26] <andres_> tesla: ok, I did it
[07:26] <Nihil85> jago25_98: do you have the same problem?
[07:26] <sharpy> can I download the Ubuntu FAQ?
[07:26] <tesla> andres_:  from command line you go to the folder and type  : make
[07:26] <Nihil85> jago25_98: came in #ati
[07:26] <carl_> gnomefreak: yes it is :) No problem... I guess it is just my PATH that is a bit fucked up...
[07:26] <gnomefreak> sharpy: theres a ubuntu guide in your menu
[07:26] <tesla> than make install
[07:26] <sharpy> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html is the same as my menu?
[07:26] <tesla> andres_:  that's it
[07:27] <gnomefreak> sharpy: yes same one
[07:27] <andres_> tesla: ok, I going to do that.....2 min
[07:27] <andres_> pls
[07:27] <eSPete_> anyone knows a program which give an menu like the one in the buttom of this image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/OS2_workplace_shell.png
[07:27] <gnomefreak> sharpy: in breezy its in the help icon
[07:28] <pablo>  does the firefox version that comes wiht ubuntu 5.10 has any security holes? do these security holes get patched if the systems is up to date?
[07:28] <gnomefreak> eSPete_: that looks hacked not using an app
[07:28] <voraistos> nobody knows how to install NFS proplerly ?
[07:28] <gnomefreak> pablo: what version of ff?
[07:28] <gnomefreak> !nfs
[07:28] <ubotu> nfs is probably see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:28] <voraistos> thx gnomefreak :P
[07:28] <eSPete_> gnomefreak, i don't get is? the image is from os/2
[07:28] <pablo> gnomefreak: 1.0.7
[07:28] <sharpy> gnomefreak, i am using kde but when i openup help only kde related stuff comes up and one category for kubuntu? where is the faq for ubuntu?
[07:28] <_jason> pablo: ubuntu releases security updates (firefox 1.08 was reelased recently)
[07:29] <gnomefreak> pablo: they updated to 1.0.8
[07:29] <AnAnt> I got a problem in Ubuntu, if I set LANG=en_US, I get this perl error: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[07:29] <pablo> _janson: how do i update my system?
[07:29] <maswan> AnAnt: by default I think only the utf-8 locales are generated
[07:29] <Lhademmor> Help! I cannot get Azureus to work on Ubuntu. It keeps saying "'file:///home/XX/XXX/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent' could not be opened:
[07:29] <Lhademmor> Not a File"
[07:29] <andres_> tesla: I have that.....bash: make: command not found
[07:29] <AnAnt> maswan: how can I generate other locales?
[07:29] <gnomefreak> sharpy: in kde not sure but i would look for word help in menu and lookin that
[07:29] <maswan> AnAnt: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[07:29] <tesla> do it as root andres_
[07:29] <BSA_> how do install a new package which isnt on the ubuntu packagemanager list?
[07:29] <pablo> gnomefreak: how do i change the size of icons (using gnome) that are in the desktop?
[07:29] <r0xoR> is there any way to revert my system services and runlevels back to the "ubuntu default" for my system?
[07:30] <maswan> AnAnt: and chose which you want
[07:30] <tesla> andres_:  sudo make spca5xx
[07:30] <r0xoR> e.g. is there a script to auto generate the rc*.d directory structure?
[07:30] <AnAnt> maswan: it didn't give me choices, it just started generating *.UTF-8 locales
[07:30] <gnomefreak> pablo: not sure maybe with gimp
[07:30] <gnomefreak> BSA_: what package?
[07:30] <maswan> AnAnt: huh.
[07:31] <ptdas> #ubuntu-es
[07:31] <scifi> just finished my 1st ever blender scene:  http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7090/robotfinalrender8nl.jpg
[07:31] <terribleCabbage> ptdas: Why do you keep repeating that? :\
[07:31] <maswan> AnAnt: I don't know then, that's how I usually do exactly tha.t
[07:31] <andres_> tesla: same answer
[07:31] <terribleCabbage> Sorry, repost; I'm installing Ubuntu on the same partition as a Red Hat 9 install (everything on one partition). If I, say, remove all except for /home, and move /home to /home_rh9 (or something), will the Ubuntu installer delete that directory when installing? :S
[07:31] <tesla> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[07:32] <gnomefreak> tesla: no s
[07:32] <odyssey> how do i upgrade to dapper
[07:32] <kambing> i need help ... i dont understand ....how am i going to mount...?
[07:32] <Quincy> Anyone know how I enable "cvs" in Breezy, I'm getting:   bash: cvs: command not found
[07:32] <tesla> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:32] <pablo> _janson: but the update manager says my system is up to date but my firefox version is still 1.0.7.. why is this?
[07:32] <tesla> sorry
[07:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell odyssey -about upgrade
[07:32] <BSA_> gnomefreak any program but spicifically blender and cinepaint
[07:32] <_jason> Quincy: sudo aptitude install cvs
[07:32] <kambing> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[07:32] <kambing> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[07:32] <kambing> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[07:32] <kambing> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[07:32] <kambing> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[07:32] <kambing> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[07:32] <kambing> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[07:32] <kambing> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[07:32] <gnomefreak> kambing: dont paste
[07:32] <_jason> !pastebin
[07:32] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:32] <kambing> /dev/hdd on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=kambing)
[07:32] <tesla> andres_:  before you can compile you need some tools
[07:32] <Quincy> Ok, I guess that's obvious, thanks!
[07:32] <kambing> op sorry
[07:33] <tesla> andres_: let' install them !!!
[07:33] <sharpy> where in my / is the ubuntu FAQ guide so i can open it in firefox?  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html has it but i need to view it while using KUBUNTU.
[07:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell odyssey about upgrade
[07:33] <sharpy> offline.
[07:33] <sharpy> i mean.. i want to read the guide offline.
[07:33] <_jason> sharpy: system > help
[07:34] <sharpy> _jason, that's when u use GNOME or Kubuntu? i use kubuntu atm.
[07:34] <andres_> tesla: ok, i'm installing te tools.....merci
[07:34] <gnomefreak> sharpy: in kubuntu there is a help entry like maybe 2-3 things up from the k menu when its open
[07:35] <tesla> then do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:35] <gnomefreak> sharpy: you can prollly wget that page
[07:35] <kambing> ok2 ...
[07:35] <sharpy> gnomefreak, let me see if GNOME will tell me where it is.. brb
[07:35] <kambing> gnomefreak ....can u tell me how to mount .
[07:35] <PrimoTurbo> Can someone pls do a test for me, if your running Gnome in any version of Ubuntu?
[07:36] <Tedd> Can someone tell me how I would go about switching to XFCE?
[07:36] <Tedd> Would Ijust go into sessions?
[07:36] <tesla> PrimoTurbo: test what?
[07:36] <PrimoTurbo> Go to System > Administration > System Monitor
[07:36] <gnomefreak> tesla: install xubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <andres_> tesla: do i have to reboot
[07:36] <gnomefreak> not tesla
[07:36] <PrimoTurbo> Click resources tab
[07:36] <tesla> no
[07:36] <_jason> PrimoTurbo: please say that all in one line
[07:36] <gnomefreak> Tedd: install xubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <tesla> andres_: no
[07:36] <PrimoTurbo> now move your system monitor very quick
[07:36] <Tedd> gnomefreak, yeah, I know that part. But how do I switch to it?
[07:37] <PrimoTurbo> Open System Monitor, move it side to side quickly then tell me if your cpu jumps to 60-90%
[07:37] <Jowi> !tell tedd about xubuntu
[07:37] <Tedd> I heard I can switch back and forth between Gnome and XFCE with the sessions tab
[07:37] <gnomefreak> Tedd: on the login screen click sessions than click xfce
[07:37] <_jason> PrimoTurbo: what am I looking for?
[07:37] <PrimoTurbo> Look at CPU
[07:37] <Tedd> Schweet. Thanks Jovi, gnomefreak, Now I have to go install Ubuntu
[07:37] <Tedd> ;P
[07:37] <tesla> andres_:  then do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:37] <PrimoTurbo> it will say 10% for example
[07:37] <PrimoTurbo> move the system monitor window very quickly side to side or up and down or whatever
[07:37] <Bain_> how do I get at the files inside a .exe? I'm trying to pull out the drivers for my wifi card for ndsiwrapper
[07:37] <PrimoTurbo> and tell me if u see your cpu jump very high
[07:37] <soundray> Hey, I'm trying DVD playback with totem, and I get serious comb artefacts. Is there a cure for that? I *think* I have the xine backend, but I'm not sure how to tell...
[07:38] <_jason> PrimoTurbo: yes
[07:38] <PrimoTurbo> how high does it go?
[07:38] <tuxmaniac> PrimoTurbo: YES
[07:38] <_jason> PrimoTurbo: near 100
[07:38] <PrimoTurbo> like 90% if u move it really fast?
[07:38] <PrimoTurbo> yeah, Gnome is really messed up
[07:38] <PrimoTurbo> do u notice window lag also?
[07:38] <PrimoTurbo> like do u see the window redrawing it self/lagging
[07:38] <PrimoTurbo> if u move it fast
[07:38] <tuxmaniac> PrimoTurbo: Yes.. Inoticed window lag if I move really really fast!
[07:38] <Paul159190> ok l've done everything guys l need some help yet again :(
[07:39] <PrimoTurbo> yeah something is wrong with Gnome
[07:39] <Paul159190> l'm booting into ubuntu, and l KNOW its at hda6 but it keeps starting up telling me its not, saying that it cannot open root device hda6
[07:39] <PrimoTurbo> or maybe even the way X draws the windows
[07:39] <Tedd> PrimeTurbo: Wouldn't that be an X problem
[07:39] <kambing> ermm ...how can i get into root from terminal ?
[07:39] <Mort_Cinder> kambing: type su
[07:39] <tuxmaniac> sudo -s -H
[07:40] <kambing> ok
[07:40] <tuxmaniac> kambing: ^^
[07:40] <andres_> tesla: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce type. Arrt.
[07:40] <andres_> make: *** [default]  Erreur 2
[07:40] <tesla> andres_:  then do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:40] <tesla> did you do that?
[07:40] <tuxmaniac> kambing: ubuntuguide.org !!
[07:40] <HIGH-FREQ> !ubotu pcmcia howto
[07:40] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HIGH-FREQ
[07:40] <kambing> Authentication failure <----------------- y do i get this?
[07:40] <HIGH-FREQ> !ubotu pcmcia
[07:40] <ubotu> HIGH-FREQ: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:40] <HIGH-FREQ> hehe
[07:41] <teh> cd /etc/profile
[07:41] <Mort_Cinder> kambing: did u type your password right?
[07:41] <tuxmaniac> kambing: Because you have typed your root password wrongly most probably!!
[07:41] <kambing> tuxmanix
[07:41] <willwork4foo> hiya! I'm thinking about putting Ubuntu on my iBook Mac laptop...
[07:41] <andres_> tesla: Impossible de trouver le paquet linux-headers- uname-r
[07:41] <kambing> mort yes...i type it rite
[07:41] <willwork4foo> am currently downloading the live CD for dapper
[07:41] <kambing> ermm
[07:41] <tesla> andres_:  hold on
[07:41] <willwork4foo> is that the latest version of Ubuntu?
[07:41] <tuxmaniac> kambing: Type the first few alphabets and press 'TAB' key
[07:41] <gnomefreak> kambing: use sudo than when propted type user password
[07:41] <gnomefreak> willwork4foo: its in beta
[07:41] <andres_> tesla: yes
[07:42] <tuxmaniac> kambing: in IRC
[07:42] <andres_> tesla: I hold
[07:42] <willwork4foo> gnomefreak: whats in beta
[07:42] <gnomefreak> willwork4foo: the latest stable release is breezy badger
[07:42] <Mort_Cinder> kambing: sorry type sudo su
[07:42] <gnomefreak> willwork4foo: dapper is
[07:42] <willwork4foo> aha.... breezy badger, eh?
[07:42] <willwork4foo> fair enough.
[07:42] <kambing> ok2 peeps i will try ...
[07:42] <kambing> let me wut will happen
[07:42] <tesla> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:42] <gnomefreak> willwork4foo: thats latest stable for next 3 weeks
[07:42] <bobonthenet> How do I change permissions in the properties menu permissions tab?  They are greyed out and the bottoms says that I am not the owner so I can't change them.
[07:42] <tesla> are you typing the commands correctly
[07:43] <cipi604> it is possible to share on a windows network without asking the user\password on the MS-network ?
[07:43] <tesla> andres_:  ???
[07:43] <willwork4foo> I've never used Ubuntu before - I heard rumours that it has weird ways of using the root account
[07:43] <willwork4foo> is this true?
[07:43] <cipi604> :))
[07:43] <kbrooks> willwork4foo: the way isnt weird
[07:43] <tesla> willwork4foo: what do u mean weird ways??
[07:43] <Mort_Cinder> willwork4foo: what do u mean? like security issues?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> bobonthenet: you need to open naultius as a sudo user and thats not really recommended but you can do it with gksudo nautilus
[07:44] <kambing> ahacks it still d same.......
[07:44] <kbrooks> willwork4foo: sudo is the canonical way
[07:44] <andres_> tesla: sorry
[07:44] <willwork4foo> I heard that there was no real root account
[07:44] <BSA_> nope
[07:44] <tesla> andres_:   OK
[07:44] <willwork4foo> as in - apparently, you can't just su -
[07:44] <gnomefreak> willwork4foo: su is disabled in ubuntu
[07:44] <gnomefreak> willwork4foo: you use sudo
[07:44] <Nihil_85> jago25_98
[07:44] <willwork4foo> mkay
[07:44] <gnomefreak> willwork4foo: sudo -i will give you root terminal
[07:44] <Nihil_85> are you there
[07:44] <willwork4foo> aha fair enough
[07:45] <amki> why is su disabled?
[07:45] <kambing> ernnn
[07:45] <crimsun> amki: it's not.
[07:45] <amki> gnomefreak willwork4foo: su is disabled in ubuntu
[07:45] <kambing> 3 incorrect password attempts
[07:45] <kambing>  <---------------------- i got this msg...apperedahacks
[07:45] <bobonthenet> thanks thats exactly what I needed
[07:45] <amki> oh, ok
[07:45] <tuxmaniac> kambing: What happened!
[07:45] <harisund> If I install Firefox 1.5.0.2 using the method outlined in the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page, will it break my system in anyway? As in updates etc etc?
[07:45] <viyyer> willwork4foo, just set your root password and use su ...
[07:45] <willwork4foo> I don't see breezy badger - I just see breezy
[07:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell amki about root
[07:45] <kambing> tuxmaniac, its not working...i cant access it
[07:45] <willwork4foo> I'm looking in http://ubuntu.blueyonder.co.uk/releases
[07:46] <willwork4foo> (my local mirror - provided by my ISP!)
[07:46] <cipi604> i'm in a >200 person network and i don't know how to share without user/pass like on MS-Win
[07:46] <tuxmaniac> kambing: Ok.. Type your current user password in the place when asked
[07:46] <amki> heard so much of ubuntu at wiesbaden
[07:46] <willwork4foo> viyyer: cool, thanks
[07:46] <Mort_Cinder> kambing: sudo su worked for me
[07:46] <Jowi> !tell cipi604 about samba
[07:46] <tesla> andres_:  did you get yuor headers?
[07:46] <cipi604> lol
[07:46] <cipi604> i've already shared
[07:46] <Tedd> Are there workspaces in KDE?
[07:46] <cipi604> with samba
[07:46] <willwork4foo> su - is disabled by default on OSX as well - I just did sudo passwd
[07:46] <Jowi> :)
[07:47] <willwork4foo> and I could then su
[07:47] <Mort_Cinder> Tedd: yep
[07:47] <Tedd> hjuh
[07:47] <cipi604> but on the other side they need a password and a user
[07:47] <Kr0ntab> sup folks
[07:47] <Tedd> I couldn't seem to figure out how to use them in MEPIS
[07:47] <Mort_Cinder> Kr0ntab: hiya
[07:47] <kbrooks> !tell willwork4foo about sudo
[07:47] <viyyer> willwork4foo, coole
[07:47] <Kr0ntab> Mort_Cinder, :-)
[07:47] <kambing> ermm
[07:48] <willwork4foo> I know what sudo is ffs...
[07:48] <willwork4foo> :)
[07:48] <Jowi> cipi604: nah, read those guides once more. you can set up "force group = sambauser" or similar to avoid that.
[07:48] <amki> hum, nice concept in ubuntu *try*
[07:48] <kbrooks> willwork4foo: read the page
[07:48] <Mort_Cinder> kambing. still no luck?
[07:48] <tuxmaniac> kambing: Did you see ubuntuguide.org! It has some basic How to s
[07:48] <kbrooks> tuxmaniac:
[07:48] <chacaljose> hola
[07:48] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[07:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[07:48] <kambing> mort_cinder : yup
[07:48] <Jowi> cipi604: it might also be windows firewall that is misbehaving
[07:48] <kbrooks> tuxmaniac: ^^^
[07:48] <kambing> no luck today 4 sure
[07:48] <tesla> chacaljose: hola
[07:48] <tristanmike> quick question, how do I rip my cd's at 192kbps ? I can rip them now, but only to 128.
[07:48] <kambing> tuxmaniac, i'm cant understand it:P
[07:49] <cipi604> Jowi:  thanks alot. i'll do it one more try
[07:49] <cabloz> when i use the command "ls" with a directory that contains more than 100 files i cant see the first files.what do i have to add to ls?
[07:49] <tuxmaniac> kambing: Understand what?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> cabloz: try ls -a | less
[07:49] <willwork4foo> right. I'm off to my mate's house coz he's got a 10MB internet pipe
[07:49] <tuxmaniac> kbrooks: yes
[07:49] <willwork4foo> ttyl
[07:49] <kbrooks> !tell tuxmaniac about ubuntuguide
[07:49] <andres_> tesla: sorry buddy I cant
[07:49] <wayne_> Hello out there!  Breezy Badger 5.1 is humming very nicely this AM.  StreamTuner is playing soft internet music, and all sytems are running hot straight and normal.    Loaded Kubuntu on to another machine.  The K desktop seemed not as easy to work as Ubuntu Gnome.  I put FDISK to Kbuntu, and burned and now in the process of loading XANDROS open circulation 3.0.  The install GUI for XANDROS really looks good..... Cheers
[07:50] <tuxmaniac> kbrooks: http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:50] <gnomefreak> tuxmaniac: please dont advise people to use ubuntuguide
[07:50] <tesla> andres_:  what error do u get?
[07:50] <tuxmaniac> gnomefreak: Ok why?
[07:50] <kbrooks> tuxmaniac: um...
[07:50] <kbrooks> tuxmaniac: read the factoid
[07:50] <andres_> tesla: E: Impossible de trouver le paquet linux-headers-uname -r
[07:50] <tuxmaniac> Because its old?
[07:50] <gnomefreak> tuxmaniac: read the pm ubotu sent you
[07:50] <tesla> andres_:    sudo synaptic
[07:50] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: :-)
[07:50] <tuxmaniac> gnomefreak: hmm k!
[07:50] <gnomefreak> old/outdated and has broken alot of peoples systems
[07:50] <jazzanova> hi
[07:50] <tuxmaniac> gnomefreak: Sorry!
[07:51] <gnomefreak> ;) kbrooks
[07:51] <Mort_Cinder> gnomefreak: what to use then?
[07:51] <HIGH-FREQ> how can i get the name of a pcmcia card if i took it out of a speedstream wireless router?  all it says on it is 11mbps wireless lan pc card
[07:51] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: ububntu is everything :P
[07:51] <tuxmaniac> It worked well for me!! initially on hoary :P
[07:51] <kambing> tuxmaniac, i dont understand it all ..hehehe
[07:51] <andres_> tesla: ok
[07:51] <gnomefreak> andres_: replace uname -r with the output of uname -r in terminal
[07:51] <tuxmaniac> kambing: sudo su --> then type your pasword
[07:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Mort_Cinder about ubuntuguide
[07:51] <kbrooks> tuxmaniac: um, thats 5.04
[07:51] <jazzanova> after firefox upgrade I am getting this error: firefox and webmail.shaw.ca couldn't establish a common communication protocol.
[07:51] <tuxmaniac> kbrooks: Sorry for the wrong suggestion!
[07:52] <kbrooks> tuxmaniac: no need to apologize a million times
[07:52] <tuxmaniac> kbrooks: help.ubuntu.com
[07:52] <harisund> People I need a bit of help here. The FirefoxPlugins page and RestrictedFormats page are quite confusing. What are and what are the differences between totem, totem-xine, totem-gstreamer, gstreamer etc. What should I do for the best music playback?
[07:52] <gnomefreak> harisund: the codecs that are used
[07:53] <fulld> can I install ubuntu with lilo? insalling with grub fails to boot after instakk
[07:53] <harisund> So all of totem-xine,totem-gstreamer, gstreamer and xine are codecs?
[07:53] <cabloz> gnomefreak: tnx, but if i use ls -a | less and i go to the end of the directory i get "end". how do i go back to the command line?
[07:53] <gnomefreak> harisund: totem-xine plays more than totem   and totem-gstreamer is totem iirc
[07:53] <gnomefreak> cabloz: q
[07:53] <kambing> tuxmaniac, u mean type sado su passwod or just wait untill it ask 4 it?
[07:53] <harisund> gnomefreak: And I observed another thing. If I have totem-gstreamer, it automatically removes xine. Can't I have all 4 on my machine?
[07:53] <cabloz> gnomefreak: thanks a lot
[07:53] <gnomefreak> harisund: no you cant have both
[07:53] <grachar> graciachacon@hotmail.com
[07:53] <tuxmaniac> kambing: sudo su <press return>
[07:53] <harisund> gnomefreak: All 4 : totem-xine, totem-gstreamer, gstreamer and xine?
[07:54] <tuxmaniac> kambing: It will ask you a password!
[07:54] <harisund> gnomefreak: Aha ! Good .. so which is the best to have?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> grachar: please dont spam
[07:54] <tuxmaniac> kambing: Then type the password
[07:54] <kambing> tuxmaniac, done it...
[07:54] <gnomefreak> totem-xine IMHO
[07:54] <kambing> tuxmaniac, it still d same!
[07:54] <tuxmaniac> kambing: the prompt will change from $ to #
[07:54] <kambing> tuxmaniac, ermmm
[07:54] <harisund> gnomefreak: Then why doesn't totem-xine come by default in Ubuntu?
[07:55] <duff_> Hello, is there a way I can roll back to Breezy's tetex 2.x?
[07:55] <harisund> gnomefreak: Ok so that means I will be effectively removing gstreamer right?
[07:55] <gnomefreak> harisund: not sure it might have something to do with xine itsself
[07:55] <tuxmaniac> kambing: copy your terminal screen commnad and paste it on http://www.pastebin.com
[07:55] <gnomefreak> harisund: yes
[07:55] <tuxmaniac> kambing: give me the link afterwards
[07:55] <soundray> duff_: dapper one giving you problems?
[07:55] <kambing> tuxmaniac,  ok
[07:55] <gnomefreak> thats a question for Amaranth ;)
[07:56] <harisund> gnomefreak: and so if I am going to remove gstreamer, I needn't bother installing all those stuff that start with gstreamer (like gstreamer0.10-mad etc) on the RestrictedFormats page right?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> harisund: i would still install them
[07:56] <gnomefreak> totem isnt the only thing that uses them
[07:56] <harisund> gnomefreak: Really? You think that would help?
[07:56] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: ?
[07:56] <harisund> gnomefreak: Ah I see.. interesting. That clarifies a lot of stuff.
[07:56] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: totem-xine not being default is there a legal issue for that
[07:57] <Amaranth> ah, no, i think that's fixed in dapper
[07:57] <duff_> soundray: it's not a problem with the way it's bundled, it's the changes made upstream.  3.0 is quite a bit different from the 2.x series and I have to share tex file and makefiles with a lot of other people I work with/for.  And currently I'm the only one with an up-to-date distro and it'd just be easier on me to have 2.x back.
[07:57] <Amaranth> xine is crippled by default though
[07:57] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[07:57] <gnomefreak> it is?
[07:57] <kambing> tuxmaniac, http://pastebin.com/702130
[07:57] <Amaranth> but totem-gstreamer is still default because it's the Gnome version
[07:57] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[07:57] <|lostbyte|> Amaranth: why do you say that ?
[07:57] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: Yeah, they had to cripple it to get it into main, otherwise KDE would have no multimedia support.
[07:58] <Mort_Cinder> kambing: its sudo su
[07:58] <gnomefreak> ahhhh poor kde lol
[07:58] <andres_> tesla: sorry what means 'uname -r'
[07:58] <Amaranth> |lostbyte|: Say what?
[07:58] <tesla> andres_:    uname -r   tell me what is your output
[07:58] <tuxmaniac> hey kambing its not sado its 'sudo'
[07:58] <|lostbyte|> Amaranth: xine is crippled ?
[07:58] <tesla> andres_:  do that command in the command line
[07:58] <Amaranth> |lostbyte|: Yes.
[07:58] <soundray> duff_: tetex is fairly independent of system libs and such, so if I were you, I'd just download the debs from the breezy repository and install them with dpkg -i
[07:58] <spacey> in what way is xine crippled?
[07:59] <tesla> andres_:  did you opened synaptic?
[07:59] <jroes> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:59] <soundray> duff_: it will be harder to manage your automatic updates, though.
[07:59] <andres_> tesla: yes
[07:59] <soundray> duff_: you may have to lock your tetex packages in synaptic.
[07:59] <duff_> soundray: i can lock it thouh, right?
[07:59] <tesla> do uname -r in the comman line terminal
[07:59] <Amaranth> !info libxine-main1 dapper
[07:59] <ubotu> libxine-main1: (the xine video/media player library, binary files), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu2-6 (dapper), Packaged size: 2866 kB, Installed size: 6640 kB
[07:59] <soundray> duff_: like I say ;)
[07:59] <Mort_Cinder> kamping: did u get it to work?
[07:59] <Amaranth> !info libxine-extracodecs dapper
[07:59] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: (the xine video/media player library, binary files), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 1148 kB, Installed size: 2976 kB
[07:59] <andres_> tesla: yes, it's open now....
[07:59] <gnomefreak> ack
[07:59] <tesla> do uname -r in the comman line terminal
[08:00] <kambing> tuxmaniac, hehehhee
[08:00] <mjchar> KLLKLKLKLK
[08:00] <tuxmaniac> kambing: done?
[08:00] <HellDragon> KLKLKLKLKLKLKLK
[08:00] <Amaranth> xine is in main but now you have to install two packages to get non-free codec support
[08:00] <kambing> tuxmaniac, yup
[08:00] <tesla> #uname -r
[08:01] <kambing> tuxmaniac,  ok ...how can i get to my other partition from here?
[08:01] <tesla> leo@ubuntu:~$ uname -r
[08:01] <tesla> 2.6.15-21-386
[08:01] <soundray> KLKLXKX Klan exchanging secret codes?
[08:01] <Paul159190> how much space does a general Ubuntu installation take btw?
[08:01] <soundray> Paul159190: 1.5 to 2 GB
[08:01] <Amaranth> Paul159190: I believe it was 2GB installed, 4GB needed during installation.
[08:01] <Paul159190> Crap :S
[08:01] <tuxmaniac> kambing: check your entries in /media
[08:02] <Paul159190> Lol, its in the final stages, done the reboot and its installating packages, l gave it a 2gb partition
[08:02] <duff_> soundray: ah..I found them.  Thanks for the help!
[08:02] <Amaranth> oh, then you're fine
[08:02] <Amaranth> if would have failed before the reboot
[08:02] <Amaranth> maybe only older versions were setup that
[08:02] <Amaranth> err, that way
[08:02] <Xenguy> GNOME/gdm question: How can I disable normal users from doing a 'shutdown' from the standard 'logout' menu?
[08:02] <kambing> tuxmaniac, bash: /media: is a directory
[08:02] <kambing>  <---ahacks then?
[08:02] <drbreen> how can i disable the automounter ?
[08:03] <tuxmaniac> kambing: cd /media
[08:03] <Amaranth> drbreen: System->Preferences->Sessions
[08:03] <kambing> tuxmaniac,  got it
[08:03] <tesla> andres_:    u there??
[08:03] <eugman> \http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/20/disable-shutdown-for-normal-users/
[08:03] <Amaranth> drbreen: Remove gnome-volume-manager from your session and remove it from the startup programs
[08:03] <andres_> tesla: yes
[08:03] <Bain_> I'm trying to do a make thing, but i'm getting this error on dapper
[08:03] <Bain_> Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-21- 686/build;
[08:03] <Bain_>   give the path to kernel build directory with
[08:03] <Bain_>   KBUILD=<path> argument to make
[08:03] <Xenguy> eugman: I'll check that out - tx
[08:03] <Amaranth> !kernel
[08:03] <drbreen> no i dont want anyone to mount stuff
[08:03] <gnomefreak> Bain_: please dont paste
[08:03] <eugman> glad to help.
[08:03] <drbreen> automagically
[08:03] <tesla> what is you uname -r output?
[08:03] <fulld> do dapper or breezy allow installing lilo from the cd?
[08:04] <Amaranth> fulld: I don't think they have lilo on the CD, no.
[08:04] <drbreen> Amaranth: i am using ltsp and have an usb hub at the server
[08:04] <gnomefreak> !info lilo
[08:04] <ubotu> lilo: (LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others), section base, is optional. Version: 1:22.6.1-6.2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 333 kB, Installed size: 1068 kB
[08:04] <drbreen> Amaranth: so i dont want devices to be automounted by anyone
[08:04] <gnomefreak> fulld: it looks like its on cd
[08:04] <ajo> msg ubotu
[08:04] <Bain_> ok, sorry
[08:04] <Amaranth> drbreen: Perhaps that's an #edubuntu question?
[08:04] <Amaranth> drbreen: I don't know anything about ltsp and such.
[08:04] <drbreen> Amaranth: ok thx
[08:04] <fulld> is there any other way to install lilo without booting the new installed system?
[08:04] <kambing> tuxmaniac,  i just can open my cd rom...ermm ...
[08:05] <gnomefreak> fulld: not really
[08:05] <MAIKA> HOLAAAAAAAAAAAA
[08:05] <fulld> hmm
[08:05] <tesla> MAIKA: holaaaaaaaaaa
[08:05] <zelevw> !es
[08:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:05] <fulld> installing any linux on my computer gives me grub error 25
[08:05] <ajo> MSG ajo
[08:05] <fulld> this is teh lame
[08:05] <tuxmaniac> cd /media/cdrom
[08:05] <kambing> the lamo
[08:06] <tuxmaniac> kambing: /media/cdrom
[08:06] <tesla> andres_: any progress?
[08:06] <gnomefreak> ajo: are you here for support or to help give support for ubuntu?
[08:06] <kambing> tuxmaniac,  ok ..... done dat...but it just go 2 my cd rom....
[08:06] <tuxmaniac> do ls
[08:06] <tuxmaniac> kambing: type ls
[08:06] <eugman> fulld I know if you abort a step in the insatllation it show you a list of step and one of them is installing lillo. Ther's proabably an easier way however.
[08:07] <kambing> tuxmaniac, is ?
[08:07] <tuxmaniac> "L"
[08:07] <fulld> eugman: that sonds great, is that a feature on breezy or dapper?
[08:08] <gnomefreak> kambing: lower case L
[08:08] <kambing> tuxmaniac, is turn into color font
[08:08] <kambing> oo
[08:08] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:08] <andres_> tesla: sorry master....i'm sucking
[08:08] <eugman> I can only confirm for breezy.  I haven't checked on dapper.
[08:09] <gnomefreak> fulld: iirc the expert install mode you can choose
[08:09] <tesla> andres_:  what's worong
[08:09] <tesla> andres_:  do this
[08:09] <gnomefreak> *warning* expert install is not the easiest thing to do
[08:09] <tesla> applications/accsesories/terminal
[08:10] <tuxmaniac> kambing: If you are new to *NIX I recommend you read some basic unix commands. Will be really helpful
[08:10] <eugman> Yay for litotes.
[08:10] <andres_> tesla: ok....terminal open
[08:10] <ajo> hi is it possible to install evolution 2.6.1 onto breezy?
[08:10] <tesla> type this :uname -r
[08:11] <tesla> tell what you get andres_
[08:11] <gnomefreak> lol ajo you mean the broken evolution
[08:11] <__filip_> There is something wrong with my partition, http://pastebin.com/702077 it have worked before to mount that.
[08:11] <ajo> yup .
[08:11] <linux6754> ubuntu 6.06 is the latest version of ubuntu???
[08:11] <gnomefreak> ajo: go to evolution.com or whatever there site is there might be a .deb file for it
[08:11] <andres_> tesla: ok i have...2.6.12-10-386
[08:12] <kambing> tuxmaniac, yup ..i not fimiliar with it
[08:12] <gnomefreak> Lugz: thats unstable
[08:12] <tesla> open synaptic
[08:12] <tuxmaniac> linux6754: yes. its in BETA
[08:12] <gnomefreak> linux6754: latest stable is 5.10
[08:12] <ajo> ok.
[08:12] <tesla> click the search button
[08:12] <tesla> type linux-headers
[08:12] <linux6754> ubuntu 6.06 is stable on acer aspire 5672 ?
[08:12] <gnomefreak> linux6754: no 6.06 is not stable
[08:13] <andres_> tesla: ok....synaptic open
[08:13] <tuxmaniac> kambing: then pick up some nice *nix basic command book and start experimenting
[08:13] <eugman> __filip_, what language do you speak normally? There is probably a ubuntu channel for that lanaguage that can better diagnose your problem.
[08:13] <tesla> click the search button
[08:13] <tesla> type linux-headers
[08:13] <gnomefreak> unstable = a chance it will break and leave you os'less
[08:13] <weed_man> anyone know a fix for synaptic touchpad for ubuntu? getting a lot of lost packages and it is very unstable...
[08:13] <__filip_> eugman: Sweden, i have alredy ask in #ubuntu-se
[08:13] <eugman> Oh, I see.
[08:14] <trnc> i'm used to rawrite and boot.img my system doesn't boot from the cd how do i install ubuntu?
[08:14] <gnomefreak> !commands
[08:14] <ubotu> somebody said commands was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[08:14] <newbie33> what fsck do?
[08:14] <gnomefreak> ^^^ good guides
[08:14] <trnc> checks the filing system newbie
[08:14] <newbie33> when to use it?
[08:14] <tuxmaniac> kambing: ^^^^ ubotu posts
[08:14] <humbolt> what is the ltsp status in dapper?
[08:14] <eugman> weed_man, check http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/disable-synaptics-touchpad/ in about a half an hour.
[08:14] <andres_> tesla: ok....synaptic found the headers...
[08:14] <murph2481> anyone know why amarok1.4beta3 doesn't play MP3's but I can get VLC to play music no problem
[08:14] <trnc> newbie it is like chkdsk or scandisk in windows
[08:14] <tesla> ok
[08:14] <trnc> it checks your disk
[08:14] <trnc> or your files
[08:15] <spacey> humbolt: in what aspect?
[08:15] <gnomefreak> murph2481: did you instal akode-mpeg?
[08:15] <tesla> install the one that matches 2.6.12-10-386
[08:15] <gnomefreak> i think thats the name of it
[08:15] <newbie33> so sometimes its good to use it, if its not seems to be any problems?
[08:15] <eugman> murph2481, Just a guess but I think amarok runs off of gstreamer and you don't have the mp3 plugin for gstreamer installed.
[08:15] <tesla> andres_:   rigth click /mark for installation
[08:15] <linux6754> i have the problem
[08:15] <linux6754> linux6754 that
[08:15] <linux6754> linux6754 i must update
[08:15] <linux6754> linux6754 the kernel of 5.10
[08:15] <linux6754> linux6754 but i don t know how I can do it
[08:15] <linux6754> linux6754 can you help me?
[08:16] <eugman> !paste
[08:16] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[08:16] <tesla> andres_:  then click apply
[08:16] <gnomefreak> linux6754: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will give you latest breezy kernel
[08:16] <murph2481> amarok1.4 beta3 uses zine
[08:16] <murph2481> xine
[08:16] <murph2481> akode-mpeg not found in the repo's
[08:16] <humbolt> spacey: what version of ltsp is in there? Do we have support for local CDs, USB storage, floppy yet? What about sound support?
[08:16] <linux6754> it download for me the kernel??
[08:17] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[08:17] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:17] <andres_> tesla: ok...its downloading packets
[08:17] <gnomefreak> murph2481: read that
[08:17] <tesla> andres_:  good
[08:17] <murph2481> !mp3
[08:17] <kambing> bash: /dev/hda2: Permission denied  <---------ahacks!
[08:17] <lopz> Question : in Audacity, when you select a segment of a sound file to be played, how can you make it continuously play the selection over and over so you can find the right spot to loop at?
[08:17] <tesla> andres_:  did you have success with build-essential install?
[08:18] <kambing> tuxmaniac,  bash: /dev/hda2: Permission denied  <---------ahacks!
[08:18] <eugman> lopz , Shift and click methinks
[08:18] <tuxmaniac> kambing: what do you want to do .. ?
[08:18] <lopz> eugman, thanks!
[08:18] <kambing> tuxmaniac,  i like 2 open it..n get access into it.
[08:18] <tuxmaniac> kambing: cd /media/hda2
[08:18] <tuxmaniac> ls
[08:19] <tanq> how do I drop this whole insert cd rom thing when i'm adding packages..
[08:19] <slavik> so, y'all ready for the revolution?
[08:19] <tanq> i have no idea what it wants from the cdrom.
[08:19] <tuxmaniac> kambing: by default you cannot write onto other partitions as a non root user
[08:19] <tuxmaniac> kambing: but you can read
[08:19] <eugman> tang, settings -> repositories . You should see the cd listed there, delete it.
[08:20] <andres_> tesla: ok...its packets installed..
[08:20] <Goshawk> can someone suggest me a good feed aggregator?
[08:20] <tesla> andres_:  did you have success with build-essential install?
[08:20] <eugman> tanq , it's trying to save you bandwidth because the packages are already on the cd in that case.
[08:20] <murph2481> gnomefreak worked perfectly :) THANK YOU it was driving me nutes
[08:21] <andres_> tesla: i try
[08:21] <kambing> tuxmaniac,  oh ok .....
[08:21] <tesla> go to spca5xx folder from terminal
[08:21] <tanq> ahhh.. I'd rather download then have to search for the cd every time.
[08:21] <gnomefreak> murph2481: yw
[08:21] <tanq> is captive-ntfs in the packages?
[08:22] <tanq> i have no idea where to search/look...
[08:22] <soundray> !captive
[08:22] <tuxmaniac> tanq: apt-cache search <package name>
[08:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[08:22] <Ribs> !info 915resolution
[08:23] <Ribs> !info 855resolution
[08:23] <ubotu> 855resolution: (resolution modify tool for Intel graphic chipset), section universe/x11, is extra. Version: 0.4-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 108 kB
[08:23] <Josh43> Ok, quick question: Can I remove a package that also removes "ubuntu-desktop"?
[08:23] <tesla> andres_:  go to spca5xx folder from terminal
[08:23] <soundray> Josh43: yes.
[08:23] <gnomefreak> Josh43: yes
[08:23] <Josh43> Awesome, thank you
[08:23] <soundray> Josh43: best to reinstall ubuntu-desktop before you do a major upgrade, though.
[08:23] <andres_> tesla: yes i'm in folder
[08:24] <tesla> type: make  andres_
[08:24] <Josh43> soundray: To get all the extras, I assume
[08:24] <andres_> tesla: ok
[08:24] <tesla> andres type: make
[08:24] <andres_> tesla: ok
[08:24] <soundray> Josh43: and to follow package splits and that kind of thing
[08:24] <tuxmaniac> !ubuntuguide
[08:24] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[08:24] <andres_> tesla: ok...make works
[08:24] <PrimoTurbo> How do u run a .run file?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> PrimoTurbo: sh file.run
[08:25] <Josh43> soundray: Thanks for the head's up
[08:25] <tesla> andres_:  finished?
[08:25] <PrimoTurbo> thanks
[08:25] <andres_> tesla: ok...make....finished
[08:25] <Paul159190> So close to finishing my installation, its doing package installation and its @ 39% :)
[08:25] <tesla> andres_:  now type: make install
[08:25] <andres_> tesla: ok...make install....finished
[08:25] <trnc> anyone know how i get my samba install disk to boot
[08:25] <Paul159190> and this is just a spare machine i had so its like a fun project, the poor thing is only 180mhz lmfao
[08:25] <trnc> can't boot from cd must boot from floppy
[08:26] <soundray> trnc: samba install disk? What's that?
[08:26] <murph2481> how do i get quicktime to run in firefox? (i get the download missing plugins and get unable to install)
[08:26] <tesla> ok now type: modprobe spaca5xx
[08:26] <trnc> the install cd
[08:26] <kambing> tuxmaniac, why i cant open it frm browser?
[08:26] <murph2481> !quicktime
[08:26] <ubotu> well, quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[08:26] <trnc> how do i get it to run if my machine won't boot from the cd drive
[08:26] <tesla> ok now type: modprobe spca5xx
[08:26] <soundray> trnc: you should install samba from the repos. Look:
[08:26] <soundray> !info samba
[08:26] <ubotu> samba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2332 kB, Installed size: 5928 kB
[08:26] <starkes> hey, does anyone know how to remove mesa without taking out all the things that depend on it?
[08:26] <tuxmaniac> kambing: you use kde or gnome?
[08:26] <kambing> tuxmaniac, kde
[08:26] <trnc> soundray the machine isn't connected to the internet
[08:27] <tuxmaniac> kambing: I dunno much abt it!
[08:27] <trnc> i need a boot floppy to run the samba install cd
[08:27] <kambing> tuxmaniac, ooo ok...if gnome?
[08:27] <tuxmaniac> kambing: but you should be able to.. type /media/ in your explorer
[08:27] <soundray> trnc: what a pain... Can't you connect it temporarily somehow?
[08:27] <harisund> Can someone suggest the best way to install Wine on Breezy? There are no wiki pages that give detailed instructions :(
[08:27] <trnc> no way it's not network configured
[08:27] <trnc> i remember on other installations rawrite.exe and boot.img
[08:27] <eugman> !shutdown
[08:27] <ubotu> eugman: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:28] <trnc> is there any way to make a similar bootdisk on ubuntu?
[08:28] <soundray> trnc: yes, look in /install/ on the CD.
[08:28] <tesla> andres_:  what happened?
[08:28] <trnc> ok ty soundray
[08:28] <soundray> trnc: it's called smb.img I think... Look:
[08:28] <mike930> is there another disk defragmenter other than defrag?
[08:28] <soundray> !smartboot
[08:28] <ubotu> smartboot is probably If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:28] <trnc> ty lots soundray
[08:28] <kambing> tuxmaniac, it apper only 2 folder cdrom n cdrom0
[08:29] <andres_> tesla: when I type modprobe spaca5xx....i have: FATAL: Module spaca5xx not found.
[08:29] <tesla> ok now type: modprobe spca5xx
[08:29] <soundray> trnc: anytime
[08:30] <soundray> andres_: you're misspelling it.
[08:30] <HellDragon> san francisco
[08:30] <andres_> tesla: sorry
[08:31] <tesla> andres_:  ok now open applications/internet/ekiga softphone
[08:31] <soundray> mike930: what type of filesystem?
[08:31] <NetworkJester> How can i get the build directory for my kernel???
[08:31] <kambing> tuxmaniac,  i like 2 open my hda2 hda3 hda4 hda5
[08:32] <tuxmaniac> kambing: What do you mean.. if you go to command line and type cd /media/ and do a ls
[08:32] <kambing> tuxmaniac, but it have a X red mark on it
[08:32] <tuxmaniac> Oh ok!
[08:32] <ChrisC> My weekly security update wants to update packages that I don't actually use (but apparently are installed) like "xserver-xorg-input-hyperpen" and "xserver-xorg-driver-tseng".  How can I tell for sure which xorg drivers are actually in service on my system?
[08:32] <soundray> NetworkJester: install linux-source-2.6.12
[08:32] <tuxmaniac> kambing: It means only super user access
[08:32] <soundray> NetworkJester: or you might get away with just linux-headers-2.6.12 (much smaller install)
[08:33] <NetworkJester> it says thats the newest version installed
[08:33] <kambing> tuxmaniac,  super acceesss?
[08:33] <kambing> ermm
[08:33] <Paul159190> oh shit guys
[08:33] <tuxmaniac> kambing: I mean only root can access it
[08:33] <jazzanova> thanks :)
[08:33] <Paul159190> l think l just ran out of disk space for the installation! :S
[08:33] <soundray> ChrisC: you can only be sure if you remove a package and something breaks.
[08:33] <kambing> tuxmaniac,  can i change it?
[08:33] <Paul159190> it got to 60% now its got the ' there was a problem installing the selected software '
[08:33] <tuxmaniac> use chmod command
[08:33] <andres_> tesla: sorry I dont have ekiga softphone
[08:33] <Paul159190> what can l do? :S
[08:33] <tuxmaniac> kambing: ^^
[08:33] <ChrisC> soundray: thanks
[08:34] <gnomefreak> Paul159190: hoe big is the harddrive partition?
[08:34] <tesla> andres_:  ok now open applications/internet/gnomemeeting
[08:34] <newbie33> whats wrong cat /etc/localtime
[08:34] <soundray> ChrisC: but go through /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see if anything important from those packages is referenced there.
[08:34] <kambing> tuxmaniac, hehehe
[08:34] <Paul159190> the hard drive partition is 2gb
[08:34] <mischachen> hi
[08:34] <gnomefreak> Paul159190: thats not big enough at all default install is around 2.8 gigs
[08:34] <tuxmaniac> kambing: what?
[08:34] <ChrisC> soundray: will running drivers show up in a process list, e.g. ps?
[08:34] <Paul159190> oh crap :S
[08:35] <imonkey> hello, from time to time my sounds doesnt work on breezy but when i reboot it works again does anyone know what the problem could be?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> Paul159190: you still need a swap partition also (good to have)
[08:35] <oklinux> how do I change dir in ubuntu ?
[08:35] <roniez> isnt xubuntu the smallest install? 1.2g?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> oklinux: cd
[08:35] <soundray> ChrisC: I'm sure there is a list like that, but it's not ps
[08:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell oklinux about cli
[08:35] <biovore> oklinux: same as windows.. cd
[08:35] <soundray> ChrisC: your logs should tell you as well.
[08:35] <gnomefreak> roniez: something like that but server install is even smaller ;)
[08:35] <Paul159190> now wot happens
[08:35] <roniez> hehe
[08:35] <ChrisC> soundray: which log?
[08:35] <tesla> andres_:  Do u have gnomemeeting?
[08:35] <roniez> i am talking enduser here.
[08:36] <soundray> ChrisC: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:36] <gnomefreak> Paul159190: give it more space if you can
[08:36] <roniez> just to let u ppl know, Symantec Norton Antivirus is being ported to ubuntu
[08:36] <oklinux> Im trying to install java how do i change dir to mozilla plugin ?
[08:36] <soundray> Paul159190: a slightly more difficult way to install is to type "server" at the boot prompt.
[08:36] <Paul159190> l cant, its an old comp l'm doin as some fun, mmm can l try what that guy just mentioned xubuntu?
[08:36] <gav> i am a n00b at linux, and i have installed breezy..... when i used apt-get i got no luck... i rad a website about changing a souurce.list file and now it finds the apt-get program but has many errors instead of installing it......... PLEASE HELP!!!
[08:36] <soundray> Paul159190: that will give you a minimal system which you can then extend.
[08:36] <Paul159190> ok its taken me to a command line screen satying login:
[08:37] <ChrisC> soundray: thanks so much, I'm on my way
[08:37] <redkko> hello
[08:37] <_jason> gav: please put your current sources.list as well as the errors you get on pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , then gives us a url to the post
[08:37] <eugman> gav, what exactly do you want to do.
[08:37] <Flannel> Paul159190: is there something wrong with your 'i' key? that's really annoying.
[08:37] <ChrisC> Paul159190: agreed
[08:37] <soundray> Paul159190: oh, so you've done your install.
[08:37] <eugman> actually yeah listen to _jason
[08:37] <gav> i want to install things like amsn and beep.. etc
[08:37] <tesla> andres_:  any luck??
[08:38] <Paul159190> i got up to the part where it restarts your comp, and then it installs the remaining packages?
[08:40] <andres__> tesla: sorry I freeeze
[08:40] <andres__> I have gnomemeeting
[08:40] <tesla> did it freeze when you try to open gnome meeting?
[08:40] <tuxmaniac> kambing: http://www.emba.uvm.edu/CF/basic.html
[08:41] <kambing> tuxmaniac,  ok
[08:41] <gav> hey, its at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13512    help please
[08:41] <andres__> tesla: when I try to detect the typhoon websot II
[08:41] <Paul159190> can anybody tell me where the help files are located in an unbuntu install
[08:41] <Paul159190> because l want to delete them to make space
[08:42] <tesla> do this: cat /proc/version
[08:42] <soundray> Paul159190: /usr/share/doc/*
[08:42] <Paul159190> thanks
[08:42] <MystaMax> is there a 64-bit ubuntu channel.
[08:42] <cabloz> i have installed lamp.where can i edit the php settings?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> MystaMax: your sitting in it
[08:42] <imonkey> it turned out i muted my speakers :)
[08:42] <MystaMax> good deal
[08:42] <Sephiroth> i can't see videos very well, they're kinda slow
[08:42] <eugman> gav, do you have synapyic or add applications open when you tried to install beep?
[08:42] <Paul159190> it wont let me remove doc it keeps telling me its a directory
[08:43] <Paul159190> l am using command 'rm doc'
[08:43] <lopz> HELP : what plugin do i have to install for firefox to play songs from the web? (like background music in mp3 format)
[08:43] <tesla> andres_ do this: cat /proc/version
[08:43] <Doat> Paul159190, rmdir doc
[08:43] <MystaMax> I have a Dell poweredge server, and I wondering if I plan on running VMware Server on it, would it beneficial to run it on ubuntu 64-bit
[08:43] <soundray> Paul159190: 'sudo rm -rf /usr/share/doc/*'
[08:43] <eugman> I mean did you.
[08:43] <gav> i thought i got a diff error this time, ill do it again
[08:43] <andres__> tesla: andres@client83-68-194-6:~$ cat /proc/version
[08:43] <andres__> Linux version 2.6.12-10-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8.1)) #1 Fri Apr 28 13:13:44 UTC 2006
[08:43] <andres__> andres@client83-68-194-6:~$
[08:43] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[08:43] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:43] <gnomefreak> lopz: ^^^^
[08:43] <Paul159190> lol cant sudo l don't know the root password, unless there is a default root password??
[08:43] <lopz> gnomefreak, i already have that
[08:43] <lopz> i need the firefox plugin
[08:44] <kbrosnan> lopz, that can depend on the site got an example?
[08:44] <soundray> lopz: look at the package mozplugger;
[08:44] <soundray> !info mozplugger
[08:44] <tesla> andres_ waht version of gcc it show?
[08:44] <ubotu> mozplugger: (Plugin allowing external viewers to be launched inside Mozilla), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.7.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 192 kB
[08:44] <Lemino> is it possible to install the latest firefox in breezy?
[08:44] <soundray> !ff1.5
[08:44] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:45] <eugman> gav, instead of typing the stuff in the terminal, you may want to use synaptic package manager since it looks like you have your reporsitories set up right.
[08:45] <gav> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13513   try again, new screenshot..........
[08:45] <lopz> kbrosnan, its for my profile music in a game i play online
[08:45] <lopz> soundray, k, lookin into it thx
[08:45] <Lemino> ubotu, thanks mate!
[08:45] <ubotu> Lemino: gern geschehen
[08:45] <MystaMax> anyone have any input on my last question?
[08:45] <Flannel> cabloz: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini  provided you installed php5
[08:45] <ygetartson> could one tell me why user rene cant use radeontool with this sudoers? Please... http://rafb.net/paste/results/GyMUjz36.html
[08:45] <eugman> hmm
[08:45] <andres__> tesla: gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease)
[08:45] <tarheel> I need some help, sort of long but here is my trouble,   I have a Dell p3 450 12gig harddrive tried to load kubuntu on it 5.10 would not work, re d/l and burned again still no luck so I install the ubuntu v 4.10 that I have used before on a pc I built worked great but on the dell 450 I have tons of bugs mouse and keyboard will not work right, checked and my kvm switch does support linux, and it worked fine on the other pc I have too
[08:45] <redkko> Lemino: just download it and tar -xzf firefox-1.5.tar.gz -C /opt/
[08:46] <tesla> what version of gcc do u have installed?
[08:46] <andres__> tesla: gcc version 3.4.5 20050809
[08:46] <redkko> rm /usr/bin/firefox ; ln -sf /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
[08:46] <cabloz> Flannel: many thanks
[08:46] <redkko> that's all
[08:47] <eugman> Hmm
[08:47] <gav> eugman: any ideas
[08:47] <teh> is gcc not installed by default?
[08:47] <Seantater> teh: no -- gcc is not instaklled by default
[08:48] <Seantater> teh: most of the time it;s not needed either
[08:48] <gnomefreak> teh: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:48] <eugman> Well I know what it means but I don't know what exactly is wrong. Either the repos are down, which I doubt, or there is some mistake in the sources.list that I can't seem to spot.
[08:48] <redkko> teh: apt-get etc.
[08:49] <gav> is there a file on internet where i can just replace the source.list file completely
[08:49] <eugman> try sudo apt-get update  and then do it again.
[08:49] <tesla> andres_ you must compile spca5xx witth the same version of gcc as you kernel was compiled with
[08:49] <tuxmaniac> teh: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[08:49] <eugman> gav, I can ive you mine to try
[08:49] <Paul159190> lol, apparently 'unable to connect to x server' :S
[08:49] <lopz> soundray, mozplugger worked great, thanks :)
[08:49] <eugman> gav there is also a souce maker I think
[08:49] <tesla> I think you may have GCC 4.0
[08:49] <eugman> !sources
[08:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:49] <eugman> !easy source
[08:49] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eugman
[08:49] <eugman> !easysource
[08:49] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:49] <tesla> your kernel was compiled with GCC 3.4
[08:50] <tesla> that's why your pc freezes
[08:50] <eugman> gav, you can try the source-o-matic for a new file.
[08:51] <predius_> is there a way to dual-boot windows and ubuntu if windows is inside an extended partition?
[08:51] <andres__> tesla: that means that I'm in serious troubles
[08:51] <tesla> andres_ go to synaptic and uninstall gcc 4.0 and install 3.4
[08:51] <gav> eugman: LOL.... THANKS.... UPDATE WORKED GREAT.... THX
[08:51] <tesla> so you can avoid the conflict
[08:52] <tesla> then compile again spca5xx as we did you ll be fine
[08:52] <murph2481> so what are people's favorite RSS feeds?
[08:52] <bjornkri> hey
[08:52] <eugman> gav, Heh. yeah if you look at your screen shot it's what you computer suggested.
[08:52] <Mort_Cinder> murph2481: digg.com for sure
[08:52] <eugman> I forgot when you change your souces you always want to update.
[08:52] <Gandalf20000> hi all
[08:52] <gav> yeah but i thought i tried UPDATE and UPGRADE before. and didnt work....
[08:53] <Gandalf20000> hey, i hope somebody here can help me
[08:53] <vincenz> Hello, I had to reinstall GRUB, so for some reason when I used the install cds it reinstalled some packages too (partially cause it had issues).  My system seems to work fine as afore, however now it does not know anything about eth1 ... which is my wificard
[08:53] <Gandalf20000> i have a problem with a onboard soundcard (via southbridge) and ubuntu breezy
[08:54] <NikosGr> umm is there a special option i must put in fstab so that ntfs parttion that mounted shows greek filenames in firecotry listings?? nls=auto ?
[08:54] <bjornkri> I know there's an easy way to do this.. but I don't know where to start. I've a folder filled with files with names of the format XXXXX-YYYYYYYYYY.zzz. X being a sequence of numbers, Y a sequence of letters and numbers and z the extension. I need to strip off the 'XXXXX-' part. There is no risk of this resulting in duplicates. I guess mv with some sort of a regex would be the way?
[08:54] <Mort_Cinder> vincenz: can u set up the card again?
[08:54] <vincenz> Mort_Cinder: how would I go about doing that?
[08:54] <jtd> can anyone tell me why apache2 would just silently stop serving webpages with no warning and no error messages?
[08:54] <jtd> but it's running?
[08:54] <eugman> gav, Before it looks like your problem was trying to open two package programs or not typing sudo dirst, I forget which.
[08:54] <Mort_Cinder> vincenz: how did u get it working in the first place? was it auto detected?
[08:55] <NikosGr> umm is there a special option i must put in fstab so that ntfs parttion that mounted shows greek filenames in firecotry listings?? nls=auto ?
[08:55] <vincenz> Mort_Cinder: I can't quite remember... I think so yeah... I know it was a whole struggle with setting up wpa_supplicant as well (but that's cause of the protocol of my wifi-router)
[08:56] <murph2481> mort_cinder well of course digg :)
[08:56] <eugman> bjornkri, I'm sure there is a way to do it via bash script but I don't know enough about bash commands. if you read into it you should be able to make one.
[08:56] <andres__> tesla: now i'm installing gcc 3.4 ......4.0 was uninstalled
[08:56] <NikosGr> changes this to what? /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    ro,user,umask=022
[08:56] <NikosGr> so it can show greek filenames?
[08:57] <bjornkri> eugman: Yeah, I'm sure there is too, just don't know enough about bash commands, either :P
[08:57] <Mort_Cinder> vincenz: umh, if it was auto detected then maybe a reinstall would help? if not im not sure sorry
[08:57] <NikosGr> someone answer me
[08:57] <NikosGr> so it can show greek filenames?
[08:57] <NikosGr> changes this to what? /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    ro,user,umask=022
[08:58] <AnAnt> I got a problem in Ubuntu, if I set LANG=en_US, I get such errors: http://pastebin.com/702139
[08:58] <voraistos> NikosGR: just dont use greek filenames
[08:58] <AnAnt> I tried dpkg-reconfigure localeconf , and set the locale to en_US ISO-8859-1 , yet it didn't solve the problem
[08:58] <AnAnt> it seems like Ubuntu insists on UTF-8 locales
[08:58] <NikosGr> voraistos, its just an option man
[08:58] <NikosGr> that i must sue in mount to handle this
[08:58] <tesla> andres__:  repeat the steps to compile spca5xx and try again
[08:59] <voraistos> NikosGr: i am not sure it is in mount. maybe ntfs for linux doesnt support it yet
[08:59] <andres__> tesla: now i'm ready...
[08:59] <NikosGr> no it is
[08:59] <vincenz> Mort_Cinder: hmm..thanks
[08:59] <NikosGr> trust me it is
[08:59] <voraistos> tyhen i take a look around and tell u
[08:59] <andres__> tesla: starting with make.......then make install?
[09:00] <Mort_Cinder> vincenz: sorry i couldnt be more help, try the ubuntu forums, im sure that will be more helpful
[09:00] <vincenz> thank you
[09:00] <bbrazil> NikosGr: have you tried "codepage="
[09:00] <AnAnt> I got a problem in Ubuntu, if I set LANG=en_US, I get such errors: http://pastebin.com/702139
[09:00] <NikosGr> its eomthin like nls=auto
[09:01] <NikosGr> bt cant remmebr tit exactly
[09:01] <knanand> Where can i find logos to place on my blog...
[09:01] <tesla> andres__: make,make install ,modprobe spca5xx
[09:01] <slavik> knanand: ubuntu logos?
[09:01] <knanand> ya
[09:01] <tesla> andres__: plug camera
[09:01] <voraistos> NikosGr: try adding that  nls=utf8
[09:01] <tesla> andres__: start gnome meeting
[09:01] <NikosGr> yes thst it
[09:02] <NikosGr> but wher exactly?
[09:02] <NikosGr> and what is nls ?
[09:02] <voraistos> in your mounting thing
[09:02] <scu> hey who knows a lot of shell scripting ?
[09:02] <bbrazil> NikosGr: native sangauge something, after the uid=
[09:02] <bbrazil> NikosGr: *language
[09:02] <knanand> slavik, ubuntu logos... where?
[09:02] <scu> shell script who knows ?
[09:02] <NikosGr> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    ro,user,umask=022
[09:02] <xapaho> hiya
[09:02] <NikosGr> where?
[09:02] <eugman> scu , probaly the guys in #bash
[09:03] <slavik> knanand: search google images for "ubuntu" or hunt around ubuntu.com
[09:03] <scu> thanks
[09:03] <voraistos> nls, i dunno what that means, but it is related to the coding of the filenames. i found something in bulgarian about that, and i cant read bulgarian
[09:03] <NikosGr> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    ro,user,umask=022,nls=utf8 ?
[09:03] <voraistos> yea
[09:03] <voraistos> try that
[09:03] <bkw> Is ubuntu 6.06 beta2 very instable and not recommended for desktop?
[09:03] <Cattack> How do I make my Ubuntu grub pass the buck back to my MBR grub?
[09:04] <voraistos> bkw i think u have to go on #ubuntu+1
[09:04] <AnAnt> bkw: it is stable for me
[09:04] <slavik> bkw: if you have a mission critical system, then I don't recommend it, but I've been running it and it works very well :)
[09:04] <pingveno> I just got ubuntu installed, but I'm not sure how to set up fstab. Is there anything special for me to do, or is just by hand?
[09:04] <Mort_Cinder> bkw: its pretty stable, but i losing data is important to u its best to wait
[09:04] <NikosGr> brazil?
[09:04] <bbrazil> NikosGr: that looks right
[09:04] <voraistos> NikosGr; does it work ?
[09:04] <bkw> voraistos: ah, I didn't know there was such chan, thanks
[09:04] <NikosGr> and what option must i ahve to mout vfat ones?
[09:05] <eugman> pingveno, well what do you want to do with it?
[09:05] <voraistos> vfat? who uses that ?
[09:05] <slavik> voraistos: the infidels
[09:05] <NikosGr> /dev/hdb3       /media/hdb3     vfat    auto,nls=utf8
[09:05] <NikosGr> ?
[09:05] <hastesaver> If the same file is available from different places for download, is there a way of testing which server will be fastest?
[09:05] <pingveno> I have a couple of reiser partitions, a fat partition, and a ntfs
[09:05] <voraistos> NikosGr: yeah
[09:06] <voraistos> NikosGr: i suppose u are right
[09:06] <hastesaver> Also, is there a way of downloading from both places simultaneously (different parts of the file, say) so that it will get done faster?
[09:06] <NikosGr> auto or drfaults for vfat?
[09:07] <bbrazil> NikosGr: http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#mount_options_for_the_new_driver
[09:07] <voraistos> NikosGr; u really should stop using windows NT 4.1
[09:07] <bucketfan99> hi!
[09:07] <NikosGr> lol voraistos
[09:07] <voraistos> :)
[09:07] <Mort_Cinder> bucketfan99: hiya
[09:07] <bucketfan99> i am trying to install (from source) gaim-otr-3.0.0
[09:07] <bucketfan99> it appears to rely on pkg-config to tell it things about your system
[09:08] <bucketfan99> pkg-config doesn't seem to think i have things that i have installed with .debs
[09:08] <bucketfan99> anyone knowledgable with this ?
[09:08] <slackern> gaim 3.0? O_o
[09:08] <bucketfan99> no.
[09:08] <eugman> Seaveas, so what is in your repo?
[09:08] <bbrazil> bucketfan99: you probably need -dev packages
[09:08] <bucketfan99> gaim-otr-3.0
[09:08] <AnAnt> I got a problem in Ubuntu, if I set LANG=en_US, I get such errors: http://pastebin.com/702139
[09:08] <bucketfan99> its an encyprtion package
[09:08] <slackern> oh hehe
[09:08] <bucketfan99> bbrazil i have 'em all.
[09:08] <bucketfan99> checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.4 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4 gaim >= 1.0... configure: error: glib
[09:08] <paradizelost> hey, anyone here familiar w/ LTSP on ubuntu?
[09:08] <slackern> thought they had gotten up to speed since yesterday with gaim or something :)
[09:08] <bbrazil> bucketfan99: does ./configure succeed?
[09:09] <bucketfan99> reset
[09:09] <bucketfan99> that is the configure error
[09:09] <voraistos> bucketfan99: u are trying to compile? u should install lots of stuff for that
[09:09] <paradizelost> my LTSP client keeps killing X when i try to log in
[09:09] <bucketfan99> voraistos i am trying to compile, yes.
[09:09] <bucketfan99> ./configure: line 19503: exit: gtk: numeric argument required
[09:09] <bucketfan99> i just can't figure out why it is dying.
[09:09] <bucketfan99> cuz i have glib and gtk+ installed
[09:10] <voraistos> bucketfan99; reinstall it, the latest version
[09:10] <Mort_Cinder> bucketfan99: maybe the file is corrupt?
[09:10] <bucketfan99> that is latest voraistos
[09:10] <bucketfan99> Mort_Cinder no i do not think so
[09:10] <bbrazil> bucketfan99: It's looking for a specific version of glib, it wants 2.4 or higher
[09:10] <voraistos> but it can be corrupted
[09:10] <bucketfan99> yes bbrazil i have 2.8.
[09:10] <cycus_zwisus> when new ubuntu?
[09:10] <bucketfan99> 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 infact
[09:10] <NikosGr> how do i reren fstab?
[09:10] <bucketfan99> and i have the package & the -dev installed.
[09:11] <NikosGr> how do i rerun fstab?
[09:11] <Mort_Cinder> cycus_zwisus: dapper drake is out the first of june
[09:11] <voraistos> NikosGr? what do u wanna do ?
[09:11] <NikosGr> make fstab rerun
[09:11] <paradizelost> NikosGr: mount -a
[09:11] <NikosGr> to see igf ti mounts ok
[09:11] <cycus_zwisus> thanks
[09:11] <bbrazil> bucketfan99: at this point I'd dig into the configure script and see what that test is actually doing
[09:11] <paradizelost> NikosGr: it's not a program, either mount -a will mount anything in there, or reboot the computer
[09:12] <bucketfan99> yeah bbrazil i did that. it seems pkg-config and dpkg disagree :)
[09:12] <bbrazil> bucketfan99: hack it
[09:12] <paradizelost> NikosGr: don't forget the sudo if you don't realize that
[09:12] <cycus_zwisus> will it be 6.04 or 6.01?
[09:12] <voraistos> he is gone anyway
[09:12] <bbrazil> cycus_zwisus: 6.06, June 1
[09:12] <HellDragon> hes gay or what
[09:12] <xapaho> trying to use partimaged -L on breezy, so that partimagessl @ systemrescuecd 0.2.19 passes the first screen. but then right after connection, partimaged returns "segmentation error". any help pls ?
[09:12] <bucketfan99> workin on that. but thought i outa try to figure it out the "right" way b4 skipping that check.
[09:13] <paradizelost> is there anyone here who could help w/ LTSP issues on breezy?
[09:13] <voraistos> dunno what ltsp is :(
[09:13] <bytewrench__> Any embedded folks here ?
[09:13] <paradizelost> voraistos: Linux Terminal Server Project
[09:13] <voraistos> ah ok
[09:14] <voraistos> no sorry i cant helkp u :P
[09:14] <cycus_zwisus> i thought the version number must be connected with planned or actual  release date
[09:14] <bbrazil> cycus_zwisus: it is 6.06 = 2006, 6th month
[09:14] <ep> I've been experiencing shutdown problems http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/702237  What logs should I check to look for anything suspicious?
[09:14] <Mort_Cinder> bbrazil: i nevr knew that, cool
[09:14] <NikosGr> it didnt work
[09:15] <NikosGr> although i rerun gnome :(
[09:15] <bucketfan99> ah found it
[09:15] <paradizelost> NikosGr: reboot the computer the
[09:15] <paradizelost> then
[09:15] <bucketfan99> i had to set pkgconfig variable to where the gaim pkgconfig file was
[09:15] <voraistos> NikosGr: just format everything witha proper FS
[09:15] <NikosGr> paradizelost, you sure boot will work man?
[09:16] <andres_> tesla: I come back from freeze
[09:16] <NikosGr> why it diodnt work now that i restarted gnome?
[09:16] <bbrazil> NikosGr: there's no need to reboot
[09:16] <paradizelost> NikosGr: it forces a dismount/remount of every filesystem and mountpoint
[09:16] <bbrazil> NikosGr: sudo umount /media/hda1; sudo mount  /media/hda1
[09:16] <NikosGr> damn what wrong with this?
[09:16] <NikosGr> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    ro,user,umask=022,nls=utf8
[09:16] <voraistos> bbrazil: he didnt reboot, just killed x
[09:16] <bbrazil> voraistos: I know
[09:17] <paradizelost> NikosGr: i usually just umask=000 on NTFS filesystems
[09:17] <paradizelost> they're RO anyways
[09:17] <voraistos>  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    ro,user,nls=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000  0       0
[09:17] <voraistos> try that
[09:17] <voraistos> dunno what it will do
[09:18] <NikosGr> brazil yes
[09:18] <NikosGr> it worked!
[09:18] <imonkey> are these partitions normal for a default ubuntu installation? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13514
[09:18] <NikosGr> now ic an see greek filenames
[09:18] <NikosGr> paradizelost, whay use umask=000 ?
[09:18] <voraistos> the comment was that"         root (  1.1)    /dev/hda5     (  1.3)"
[09:18] <teh> whats the difference between gcc and g++?
[09:18] <baojdk> heh
[09:19] <bbrazil> teh: gcc is a C compiler, g++ is C++
[09:19] <NikosGr> paradizelost, whay use umask=000 ?
[09:19] <paradizelost> NikosGr: the equivalent of chmod 777 -Rf ing the filesystem
[09:19] <NikosGr> may i try to write an ntfs filesystem?
[09:20] <voraistos> bad idea
[09:20] <amphi> NikosGr: not if you like your data
[09:20] <NikosGr> i do :)
[09:20] <voraistos> but it works properly i heard
[09:20] <tesla> andres_ I don't know you have do do a research but it may be you GCC version
[09:20] <NikosGr> its my website there a backup
[09:20] <paradizelost> NikosGr: DO NOT ATTEMPT TO WRITE TO NTFS
[09:20] <NikosGr> and downloads
[09:20] <bbrazil> voraistos: only if the file sizes say the same
[09:20] <bbrazil> voraistos: *stay
[09:20] <NikosGr> but myve it will work
[09:20] <paradizelost> NikosGr: if you need that have it in a nother machine and use samba or NFS to do the writing
[09:21] <voraistos> bbrazil: i heard some softwares could do that properly
[09:21] <bbrazil> voraistos: yeah, captive ntfs
[09:21] <Lemino> what measures do I take to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[09:21] <amphi> NikosGr: it is said that if you write without changing the file size (in terms of allocation units) and run windows fsck when you boot windows, you may be ok
[09:21] <NikosGr> i created vfat fro trades
[09:21] <NikosGr> but i want to write directly
[09:21] <bbrazil> voraistos: but that's not a real solution imho
[09:21] <voraistos> bbrazil: anyway, thats bad idea to use windows stuff on linux
[09:21] <paradizelost> voraistos: there is stuff that can do it, but nothing is 100% safe
[09:22] <grout58> i just changed the conf file for lighttp, now how can i restart it?
[09:22] <paradizelost> other than running it in a vmware windows vm or another machine
[09:22] <NikosGr> amphi, without changing the file size?
[09:22] <grout58> well shut it down then restart it?
[09:22] <voraistos> it is like i always say: comupters are like woman, when its free, its better, and in many cases much safer
[09:22] <bbrazil> grout58: probably sudo /etc/init.d/lighttp restart
[09:22] <NikosGr> hwo do you mean?
[09:23] <paradizelost> NikosGr: copy the data to another partition, and format the drive reiserfs
[09:23] <NikosGr> what mout option do i neeed to attemtps to writ to ntfs? rw ?
[09:23] <paradizelost> then copy it back
[09:23] <paradizelost> :D
[09:23] <paradizelost> or convert to fat32
[09:23] <NikosGr> lol
[09:23] <NikosGr> i wan to try directly
[09:23] <NikosGr> from residerfs => ntfs
[09:23] <amphi> NikosGr: yeah, in terms of filesystem blocks
[09:23] <paradizelost> NikosGr: never seen it done.
[09:23] <NikosGr> what must i do?
[09:24] <NikosGr> amphi, what must i do to do that?
[09:24] <amphi> NikosGr: huh?
[09:24] <NikosGr> i may lsoe data?
[09:24] <paradizelost> NikosGr: yah
[09:24] <NikosGr> did soemoen did in tha past?
[09:25] <voraistos> i ahve a ntfs read only partition, i dont need to change the data or something, just use another hard drive, or save your stuff and format
[09:25] <NikosGr> may i mount it as rw
[09:25] <NikosGr> will moun worjk that way?
[09:25] <xapaho> noone ever use partimage?
[09:26] <soundray> xapaho: I have, why?
[09:26] <paradizelost> NikosGr: i highly don't recommend mounting ntfs as rw
[09:26] <voraistos> bad idea but do as u wish mount it with write possibilities... but why didnt u do that at install ??!!!
[09:26] <HIGH-FREQ> hmm..anyway to get this broadcom wirelss 4318 to see an access point...i've tried both steps in the howto...and iwconfig still says  Access Point: No-Associated
[09:26] <bbrazil> xapaho: yes, what's your question?
[09:27] <NikosGr> damn i want to try it
[09:27] <HIGH-FREQ> anyone familiar with broadcom 4318 AirForce One 802.11g internal wireless cards?
[09:27] <Kyozabe1> how do you compile c++ code?
[09:27] <paradizelost> NikosGr: i recommend backnig up your data then trying it if you are that impulsive
[09:27] <voraistos> NikosGr; cant u force writing just with sudo on ntfs?
[09:27] <bbrazil> Kyozabe1: g++ filename.cpp -o executableName
[09:27] <Kyozabe1> thanks
[09:27] <NikosGr> paradizelost,  yes iam implulsive allrighgt :)
[09:28] <NikosGr> bu i have 40 GB data there
[09:28] <NikosGr> lots of movies and downlaod and web page
[09:28] <Voldo> 'ello
[09:28] <Kyozabe1> nikos
[09:28] <NikosGr> voraistos, how?
[09:28] <voraistos> u do that shit for 40 gigs ? why dont u save it and just format ???
[09:28] <Kyozabe1> what are you trying to do?
[09:28] <paradizelost> NikosGr: copy the data to a different partition and then try it
[09:28] <soundray> !tell voraistos about language
[09:29] <voraistos> sorry about that :)
[09:29] <NikosGr> paradizelost, i dont have so much free spave in onother part
[09:29] <Kyozabe1> nikos, just burn all your stuff
[09:29] <voraistos> buy a 300gigs hard drive, cheap, and lots of download possible
[09:29] <paradizelost> NikosGr: think about it this way, is it worth losing/corrupting all of your data to try to write to the fileystem
[09:29] <HIGH-FREQ> no broadcom 4318 gurus here?  ;(
[09:30] <NikosGr> paradizelost, no it isnt bu curiocity kills me
[09:30] <Kyozabe1> oh it will nikos
[09:30] <s_v_e_n> Good evening, from sven. Can someone tell me what the !tell means ?
[09:30] <aloneinkyoto> hi, i'm trying out the ubuntu 5.10 livecd, but it keeps locking up after about an hour or two of normal use. it's seems to be connected to how much i download. is this a known problem and is it specific to the livecd? any solutions?
[09:30] <soundray> !tell s_v_e_n about you
[09:30] <paradizelost> NikosGr: so find a different drive that's ntfs and try it there first
[09:30] <paradizelost> ;)
[09:30] <NikosGr> paradizelost, i dont have onther
[09:30] <NikosGr> well i dou  an idea
[09:30] <soundray> s_v_e_n: look at the pm you got from ubotu
[09:30] <NikosGr> i will convert the fat one to ntfs the try it!
[09:31] <NikosGr> i backup first
[09:31] <corey> hrmm..i have a windows networked printer and have it setup with SMB..it connects to it..when i try to print a test page itll print for like 5 seconds and just quit...wont eject paper or anything..just stops printing
[09:31] <PDani> hi
[09:31] <NikosGr> only think i mmust change in fstab is
[09:31] <Mort_Cinder> im wondering too, what does the !tell mean
[09:31] <s_v_e_n> soundray, thank you
[09:31] <NikosGr> ro => rw ?
[09:31] <soundray> !tell Mort_Cinder about you
[09:32] <NikosGr> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    rw,user,umask=022,nls=utf
[09:32] <NikosGr> like this for example?
[09:32] <xapaho> soundray, bbrazil sorry I was next door -- trying to use partimaged -L on breezy, so that partimagessl @ systemrescuecd 0.2.19 passes the first screen. but then right after connection, partimaged returns "segmentation error". any help pls ?
[09:32] <voraistos> !tell voraistos about windows
[09:32] <bbrazil> xapaho: sorry, haven't used it for that
[09:32] <voraistos> damn
[09:32] <Remenic> has anyone here managed to get an rt2560 pci working? for me it works, but only if I enable it after logging into gnome.. If I let it configure at startup, I get a nice kernel crash.
[09:32] <jvai> corey point ubuntu to the IP addy for the printr(host), that worked for me @ work
[09:33] <corey> it doesnt have an ip
[09:33] <corey> its connected to a windows machine
[09:33] <bbrazil> xapaho: sounds like a bug in the code though
[09:33] <jvai> ooh
[09:33] <NikosGr> paradizelost, ?
[09:33] <soundray> xapaho: that sounds like something
[09:33] <paradizelost> NikosGr: huh?
[09:33] <NikosGr> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    rw,user,umask=022,nls=utf
[09:33] <xapaho> bbrazil, thanks anyway for trying to answer!
[09:33] <soundray> bbrazil said it all right ;)
[09:33] <NikosGr> is this ok?
[09:33] <soundray> NikosGr: by itself, that won't do
[09:33] <bbrazil> xapaho: if you can reproduce it, you should file a bug
[09:33] <NikosGr> will be mounted as read/write?
[09:33] <soundray> NikosGr: write support is disabled in the kernel.
[09:33] <xapaho> soundray, are you playing some music right now ? :)
[09:33] <paradizelost> NikosGr: i've never wanted to attempt it, mine are all reiser, so i'm not the best person to ask
[09:34] <NikosGr> k paradizelost
[09:34] <soundray> xapaho: no, the sound in my nick is inaudible ;)
[09:34] <NikosGr> soundray, so i must not even bother
[09:34] <NikosGr> ?
[09:34] <soundray> NikosGr: you'd have to recompile the kernel. Hard work, just for satisfying your curiosity.
[09:34] <serp> how come I can't do alt+arrows in irssi in gnome-terminal?
[09:35] <NikosGr> soundray,  i wont then
[09:35] <xapaho> soundray, what did u mean it "sounds like something" ... you heard before ?
[09:35] <aloneinkyoto> anyone?
[09:35] <xapaho> bbrazil, I wondered what it means, at all, by "segmentation" ?
[09:36] <NikosGr> /etc/init.d/gaim
[09:36] <NikosGr>  whay this wotn work?
[09:36] <soundray> xapaho: no, I interrupted myself, because I was going to say the same thing as bbrazil
[09:36] <soundray> xapaho: afaik, the network part of partimage is still experimental.
[09:36] <bbrazil> xapaho: the program tried to access memory that it wasn't allocated, probably a null pointer dereference
[09:37] <soundray> xapaho: segmentation fault is the same as a "general protection fault" in windows.
[09:37] <bbrazil> NikosGr: just use 'gaim'
[09:37] <arrinmurr> i'm going to install vmware player, and i'd like to know how does the .vmdk file work with it size? i mean, if i set the size to 10GB, it obviously won't be that large straight away, but when I install something into it, will it jump straight to 10GB even if the stuff installed doesn't take that much space?
[09:37] <ubuntu> hello
[09:37] <xapaho> soundray, bbrazil ok, so what should I use ? for backup from multi-os laptop, and before hard drive replacement on a laptop
[09:38] <NikosGr> bbrazil, yes but i wont it to laod on startup
[09:38] <NikosGr> why thsi wotn work /etc/init.d/gaim
[09:38] <NikosGr>  ?
[09:38] <soundray> xapaho: make backups with partimage locally, and copy them to another machine with scp
[09:38] <bbrazil> xapaho: well, I was backing up onto another harddrive in my sytem. Maybe you could stream it over the network with netcat and a fifo?
[09:39] <ubuntu> just resized a partition  from 14gigs to 35 gigs but gparted is saying 23gigs is used please help
[09:39] <soundray> xapaho: or mount a filesystem on the server (smb or nfs) and tell partimage to write to that.
[09:39] <bbrazil> ubuntu: unmount it and fsck it
[09:39] <xapaho> soundray, what with a m$ laptop (the one which HD needs replacement asap) ?
[09:39] <Paul159190> guys i need help lol, how do l add a boot command to bootx
[09:39] <paradizelost> anyone able to help w/ LTSP on ubuntu, it keeps restarting X when i try to log in on the client
[09:40] <lufis> How can I get tabs in FF to close with the middle mouse button?
[09:40] <serp> why doesn't gnome-terminal pass meta-left to my app?
[09:40] <xapaho> soundray, could i tell partimage to file to ftp ? got one up and running almready
[09:40] <NikosGr> ?
[09:40] <soundray> xapaho: same thing -- partimage will back up a NTFS or FAT32 partition
[09:40] <Kyozabe1> in the synaptic package manager, I'm about to download some ipod stuff from the universe repository, but I'm getting a warning that it can't be authenticated, and I might get haxxed
[09:40] <bbrazil> lufis: there's a tab preferences plugin, that might have an option for it
[09:40] <NikosGr> why this wont work /etc/init.d/gaim ?
[09:40] <ubuntu> bbrazil: its not mounted I am in live cd
[09:40] <Kyozabe1> is there any real risk of that happening?
[09:40] <xapaho> bbrazil, only one hd, one partition in that system
[09:40] <soundray> xapaho: you could ftp the image after the fact. That would be easiest.
[09:40] <bbrazil> ubuntu: just fsck it then
[09:41] <Paul159190> guys how do l add a command line to bootx ? :S
[09:41] <xapaho> soundray, i was late answering, that was just to say i can't save locally and transfer later
[09:41] <soundray> xapaho: have you booted the laptop with a live CD?
[09:41] <NikosGr> one last things folks an i am gone. how do i ncrease gaim's fonts
[09:41] <bbrazil> xapaho: try a fifo + netcat. it should work as long as it doesn't seek()
[09:42] <soundray> xapaho: again, I second bbrazil
[09:42] <PrimoTurbo> How can u test fps with fglrxgears?
[09:42] <ubuntu> bbrazil: if you do not mind me asking why fdisk, what about all the data I did say resize?
[09:42] <PrimoTurbo> what was the command?
[09:42] <xapaho> soundray, systemrescue, gentoo based console and graphical text, looks damn good
[09:42] <bbrazil> ubuntu: could you rephrase that>
[09:42] <xapaho> bbrazil, you lost me there, sorry
[09:43] <bbrazil> xapaho: mkfifo test; netcat remotesystem 1234 < test
[09:43] <bbrazil> xapaho: then on the remote system: netcat -l 1234 > test
[09:43] <bbrazil> xapaho: then give test as the filename to save to for partimage
[09:44] <soundray> bbrazil: wow, that's easier than I imagined...
[09:44] <xapaho> wow, is that enough to "pipe" over the net ?
[09:44] <ubuntu> bbrazil: i have just resized a partition from 14gigs to 35 gigs but gparted is saying 23 gigs is used and 12gigs is unused
[09:44] <xapaho> bbrazil, wow, is that enough to "pipe" over the net ?
[09:44] <bbrazil> soundray: assuming it works ;)
[09:44] <NikosGr> one last things folks an i am gone. how do i ncrease gaim's fonts
[09:44] <bbrazil> xapaho: yes. just pray the network doesn't die or something
[09:45] <Eduardo-> I installed apache2 with apt-get, then i removed with apt-get remove apache2 to solve some problems and erased the /etc/apach2 path.. Now i want to install apache2 again. I do apt-get install apache2 but now nothing happen. neither a path in /etc is created.. Anybody knows how to solve it?
[09:45] <xapaho> it won't :) that net segment is a single twisted cable :)
[09:45] <murph2481> so how can I get a 5 button mouse with sideways scroll to fully work correctly?
[09:45] <xapaho> bbrazil, it won't :) that net segment is a single twisted cable :)
[09:45] <bbrazil> ubuntu: did you resize just the partition or also the filesystem (I haven't used gparted)?
[09:45] <soundray> Eduardo-: run apt-get --purge remove apache2, then try installing again
[09:45] <bbrazil> xapaho: EMP :)
[09:46] <_jason> fabbione: you around?
[09:46] <InfraRed> hi
[09:46] <fabbione> _jason: having dinner right now..
[09:47] <ubuntu> bbrazil: just the partition its on hda1 i have used almost all my disk space there is some left for swap
[09:47] <Eduardo-> soundray: it didnt work
[09:47] <xapaho> bbrazil, EMP?
[09:47] <soundray> Eduardo-: how did it fail?
[09:47] <SL|warlock> how to configurate pure-ftpd?
[09:47] <bbrazil> xapaho: ElectroMagnetic Pulse, fires electronics
[09:47] <SL|warlock> wheres the conf file?
[09:48] <_jason> fabbione: ok, I was just about to post the stuff you requested for the evdev bug report and if you needed anything more specific I can be a guinea pig.  Enjoy dinner though, feel free to msg me if you need anything else
[09:48] <redkko> SL|warlock: vsftpd is more easie'er
[09:48] <soundray> SL|warlock: it will be in /etc/pure-ftpd or similar, and there will be documentation in /usr/share/doc/pure-ftpd
[09:48] <fabbione> _jason: read carefully the last entry about the config changes... those are important.
[09:49] <fabbione> _jason: but of course the info will help.
[09:49] <bbrazil> ubuntu: which partition is this (hda4 etc.)?
[09:49] <SL|warlock> redkko, how to create a user in vsftpd? (can i use the root account?)
[09:49] <fabbione> _jason: i am pretty sure that if it is only a config change, you will have to deal with it. I can't modify user configs automatically. specially when upstream changes so much
[09:49] <Eduardo-> soundray: it seems to be erased with that command.. than i try apt-get install apache2 and Setting up apache2 (2.0.54-5ubuntu4) ...
[09:49] <NChief> you can set it to use root, but I wil NOT recomend that
[09:49] <Eduardo-> ops
[09:50] <redkko> SL|warlock: vsftpd cant be run as root, read README, its realy easy
[09:50] <fabbione> _jason: but upstream is really glad of the feedback and dealing to help us immediatly, if that is not the problem.
[09:50] <PrimoTurbo> How do I run fglrxgears?
[09:50] <PrimoTurbo> I want to test my FPS with it
[09:50] <ubuntu> bbrail: i only have one partition hda1 and 3353 of unallocated spave on which i will create a swap
[09:50] <NChief> fglrxgears
[09:50] <PrimoTurbo> there is some odd -iacknowledgethisisnotatestblah blah
[09:51] <Tedd> Aaaah, I'm back.
[09:51] <PrimoTurbo> what is it exactly
[09:51] <Tedd> On Ubuntu I mean.
[09:51] <bbrazil> ubuntu: and how big is the drive?
[09:51] <Tedd> I feel at home. :D
[09:51] <Eduardo-> soundray: i think it was installed, but i cant found /etc/apache2
[09:51] <NChief> fglrxgears -somethingreallylongtahtidontrememper :p
[09:51] <NChief> -p+b
[09:51] <_jason> fabbione: I used /dev/input/event2 and X still refused to start, but I may be setting it up incorrectly.  Here's the apstebin of what I did: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13515
[09:51] <soundray> PrimoTurbo: usage info in fgl_glxgears -h
[09:52] <ubuntu> bbrail: 38.5 gigs
[09:52] <salmiak> i got lilo as bootloader, and i want to be able to choose between several kernels when i boot. As it is now, one kernel boots automatically and i can't choose :(.
[09:52] <fabbione> _jason: please add it to the bug.. also make sure to do the other changes suggested.. like changing the AlwaysCore to SendCore (or viceversa.. can't remmeber right now)
[09:52] <ubuntu> bbrazil: 38.5 gigs
[09:52] <_jason> fabbione: ok, I'll try that now as well
[09:52] <bbrazil> ubuntu: you can use bb<tab> to bring up my nick
[09:52] <grout58> whats the command to rename a directory?
[09:52] <bbrazil> grout58: mv oldir newdir
[09:53] <PrimoTurbo> 1000 fps good for an ATI 9700 Pro?
[09:53] <fabbione> _jason: thanks a lot! your tests are important.. do them one by one and carefully... it might mean fixing a bug for you or not in dapper.
[09:53] <bbrazil> ubuntu: what exactly is gparted saying is used/free?
[09:53] <soundray> Eduardo-: that's strange. If you succeed in fully removing it with apt-get --purge remove, it should then install cleanly (including the conf dir)
[09:53] <ubuntu> bbrazil just a sec
[09:54] <xapaho> bbrazil, zsh asks me to correct netcat with etcat (?)
[09:55] <AngryElf> how can i find out what's using my network connection?  I've got nothing running and the monitor keeps blinking
[09:55] <amphi> xapaho: it mat be called nc
[09:55] <jmoncayo> how can i start ubuntu linux in a single user mode, using grub??
[09:55] <bbrazil> xapaho: never heard of it, you might have to install netcat
[09:55] <amphi> AngryElf: iptraf is an ok network monitor
[09:55] <soundray> jmoncayo: use the Recovery mode entry
[09:55] <SL|warlock> how do i change a users pass again?
[09:56] <bbrazil> SL|warlock: passwd
[09:56] <ubuntu> bbrazil: /dev/hda1  ext 3  size mb 35,001 used mb 22,986  unused 12.015  flags  boot
[09:56] <Eduardo-> soundray; can i paste the message after remove in pvt?
[09:56] <soundray> Eduardo-: yes, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:56] <bbrazil> ubuntu: if you mount the disk, what does df -h show?
[09:57] <ubuntu> bbrazil just a sec
[09:57] <Eduardo-> soundray: i dont know how to use this
[09:57] <soundray> Eduardo-: it's self-explanatory.
[09:58] <salmiak> i can't pick which kernel i want to boot with...i got lilo
[09:58] <soundray> Eduardo-: Paste into the text field, and write "Eduardo" in the Name field
[09:58] <Eduardo-> ok
[09:58] <soundray> salmiak: hit the Tab key at the boot: prompt
[09:59] <salmiak> thanks, soundray ! :)
[09:59] <bbrazil> salmiak: if the boot prompt doesn't show, turn on either caps lock or scroll lock and it'll bring it up (I forget which)
[10:00] <salmiak> thanks. i'll reboot now brb ;)
[10:00] <Cars_Suck> Is there a webpage program for ubuntu?
[10:00] <InfraRed> a what ?
[10:00] <bbrazil> Cars_Suck: what are you trying to do?
[10:00] <soundray> Cars_Suck: you mean for composing web pages?
[10:00] <serp> gnome-terminal sends the incorrect signal when using meta-arrow. how do I fix this?
[10:01] <Cars_Suck> soundray, i am looking to build a webpage for my friends paint shop.
[10:01] <AngryElf> is there any way I can make firestarter run automatically when a regular user logs in?
[10:01] <Eduardo-> soundray: it is there
[10:01] <soundray> Cars_Suck: there is a lot of choice: nvu, bluefish, screem, ...
[10:01] <Cars_Suck> soundray, are those on apt-get
[10:02] <jmoncayo> well this is my problem i have an old box in which i installed ubuntu, then i changed the root password how can i recover it??? i have physical access to the box
[10:02] <soundray> Cars_Suck: yes
[10:02] <grout58> why do I keep getting forbidden on my website http://grout.ws
[10:02] <grout58> if you go to any link i get forbidden
[10:02] <soundray> Eduardo-: I have no explanation, sorry.
[10:02] <xapaho> amphi, thanks, that was nc under zsh
[10:02] <Paul159190> hi guys l really really need some help
[10:02] <grout58> and i used chmod -R +wrx files
[10:02] <ubuntu> bbrazil: i mounted  hda1 then did  df -h  in live cd for  /dev/hda1  its says size 14G  used 1.5g available 12g   how that is possible i am not sure?
[10:03] <soundray> bbrazil: would you mind having a look at Eduardo-'s prob? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13516
[10:03] <Paul159190> how do l add a bootx command
[10:03] <Eduardo-> soundray: thanks
[10:03] <Cars_Suck> soundray, what has gui?
[10:03] <xapaho> bbrazil, nice attempt! partimage returns that "the third arg must be a valid regular file (not a directory, a symlink, ...)
[10:03] <soundray> Cars_Suck: they all do. Do you mean "wysiwig"?
[10:04] <jmoncayo> how can i recover my root password.... can i enter in single user mode and change my root pass???
[10:04] <bbrazil> ubuntu: okay, it looks like gparted didn't quite do what you want. May I suggest running e2resize on /dev/hda1, I *think* that'll fix it up
[10:04] <soundray> Cars_Suck: nvu may be for you. Look at the output of 'apt-cache show nvu"
[10:04] <Cars_Suck> soundray, guess not. ill just check them out see whats cool thanks for the info
[10:04] <slackern> jmoncayo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword
[10:04] <bbrazil> Eduardo-: /etc/apache2 comes from apache2-common iirc. You might have to use dpkg --force-confmiss
[10:05] <ubuntu> bbrazil: ok what would the command line look like please
[10:05] <grout58> why do I keep getting forbidden on my website http://grout.ws
[10:05] <slackern> jmoncayo: There is a guide at that link.
[10:05] <bbrazil> ubuntu: sudo e2resize /dev/hda1
[10:05] <bbrazil> ubuntu: It might be ext2resize
[10:05] <grout58> http://grout.ws:85/Files/
[10:05] <Eduardo-> bbrazil: e depois instalo denovo?
[10:05] <ph8> use sudo jmoncayo ?
[10:05] <bbrazil> ubuntu: resize2fs actually
[10:06] <Cars_Suck> soundray, ill check that out
[10:06] <bbrazil> Eduardo-: Eu no falo portugus
[10:06] <Eduardo-> bbrazil: ahhh.. hehe.. ok!
[10:06] <roniez> dammit i cant get fluxbox to load. :(
[10:07] <lufis> How long does it take to become a Linux guru?
[10:07] <linux6754> idiots
[10:07] <Eduardo-> bbrazil: i should do dpkg --force-conmiss apache2?
[10:07] <cabloz> i have installed a little webserver on my home network.but the ip (in my network) of that server changes everytime i reboot.1day it's 192.168.1.66 the other day 192.168.1.71 or ....very annoying.anybody?
[10:07] <Cars_Suck> soundray, what does that do?
[10:07] <bbrazil> Eduardo-: you should try pruging and reinstalling apache2-common
[10:07] <Eduardo-> bbrazil: how i do this?
[10:08] <soundray> Eduardo-: 'sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2-common ; sudo apt-get install apache2-common'
[10:08] <ubuntu> bbrazil umount fist?
[10:08] <bbrazil> Eduardo-: same as you posted in the pastebin, excpet for apache2-common
[10:08] <soundray> Thanks bbrazil, I'm back in business ;)
[10:08] <bbrazil> ubuntu: it's not actually required, but I reccomend it
[10:08] <soundray> Eduardo-: of course you can leave off the sudo if you are root.
[10:09] <munzir> Hi, $ dpkg -l bluez-btsco |grep btsco; sudo modprobe btsco
[10:09] <munzir> ii  bluez-btsco    14112005cvs-2  Bluez Bluetooth SCO tool
[10:09] <munzir> FATAL: Module btsco not found.
[10:09] <xapaho> oh well -- gonna have to reboot and use my working setup (m$+tfptserver+pxe+ghostcast)... unless anyone points me to a working solution, pleaaaase :)
[10:09] <bbrazil> xapaho: dump the raw drive over the network?
[10:09] <roniez> cabloz: make it so your router dont release the ip...
[10:09] <xapaho> bbrazil, too big
[10:09] <pingveno> I'm trying to run a system that does ubuntu/Win XP dual boot and uses two seperate partitions for / and /home. However, I'm not sure exactly how to set up the fstab file.
[10:09] <roniez> set the lease time to forever.
[10:09] <bbrazil> xapaho: with gzip?
[10:09] <jmoncayo> slackern, ok man thanks a lot i did it
[10:09] <xapaho> bbrazil, even then
[10:09] <pingveno> It's currently empty (# UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM)
[10:09] <roniez> pingveno: first off u need to have windows as primary partition.
[10:10] <soundray> munzir: what's your uname -a output?
[10:10] <bbrazil> xapaho: the mounting a remote filesystem idea would be worth a try
[10:10] <pingveno> Yeah, I have all of the partitions set up.
[10:10] <pingveno> This is replacing a Gentoo install ;-)
[10:10] <ubuntu> bbrazil its saying Please run 'e2fsck -f /dev/hda1' first.
[10:10] <CSR> I use a caddy and two separate removeable hard drives.
[10:10] <bbrazil> ubuntu: then do it
[10:10] <munzir> soundray: Linux 2.6.15-21-amd64-k8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Apr 21 16:47:57 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:11] <grout58> why do I keep getting forbidden on my website http://grout.ws even though i've used chmod
[10:11] <pingveno> So I do know something about setting up partitions, just not if Ubuntu has anything special about configuring the fstab file.
[10:11] <soundray> munzir: that's strange. I have the module in "/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-amd64-k8/kernel/sound/bluetooth/btsco.ko"
[10:11] <xapaho> bbrazil, the point of ghost, partimage and co. is a minimal dump -- i'll look into nfs
[10:11] <bbrazil> xapaho: smbmount
[10:11] <soundray> munzir: maybe you need to 'sudo depmod -a', but that should be unnecessary these days...
[10:12] <xapaho> bbrazil, ooh yes, thanks -- my samba is all set already, should have thought about it myself [ashamed] 
[10:12] <bbrazil> xapaho: axtually someone else suggested it earlier
[10:12] <soundray> munzir: ah, that's it -- it's been removed between 2.6.12 and 2.6.15
[10:12] <munzir> soundray: huh!
[10:13] <HellDragon> this message sounds a little too mongol
[10:13] <xapaho> bbrazil, my log is truncated already
[10:13] <soundray> munzir: probably because the name caused offense
[10:13] <soundray> munzir, just kidding
[10:13] <soundray> munzir, I've no idea why that module isn't in the kernel anymore
[10:14] <munzir> soundray: how did you know it's removed?
[10:14] <soundray> munzir: because I am running 2.6.15.
[10:14] <soundray> munzir: actually, it's been renamed
[10:14] <ubuntu> bbrazil  Resizing the filesystem on /dev/hda1 to 8960245 (4k) blocks.
[10:14] <ubuntu> ,  The filesystem on /dev/hda1 is now 8960245 blocks long.
[10:14] <munzir> soundray: and how did you checked?
[10:14] <soundray> munzir, sudo modprobe snd-bt-sco
[10:14] <soundray> munzir: locate btsco.ko
[10:15] <soundray> munzir: I still have 2.6.12 hanging around
[10:15] <docko> hi, is there any irc server with ssl support in ubuntu repositories?
[10:15] <bbrazil> ubuntu: that's all fine then - you now have a 35GB ext3 partition
[10:15] <docko> does anyone know?
[10:15] <bbrazil> docko: hybrid's in there, I think it has ssl support compiled in
[10:16] <soundray> docko, 'apt-cache search irc server ssl' spits out a few
[10:16] <deefzi> does anyone have vmware workstation 5?
[10:16] <docko> bbrazil, thanks, i'll take a look at it
[10:16] <Tedd> Can anybody help me? Two out of my four speakers work on Ubuntu 5.10
[10:16] <ubuntu> bbrazil: thanks whats the command line to create a 1gig swap partition
[10:16] <soundray> munzir, "modprobe snd-bt-sco" working for you?
[10:16] <bbrazil> ubuntu: parition it first, then mkswap
[10:16] <Tedd> I've played with ALSA, and this happens on my Windows partition too, before I install an Intel Chipset
[10:17] <Tedd> I tried using WINE to install the chipset but it didn't support the OS.
[10:17] <soundray> Tedd: have you tried alsamixer? Play with the surround options and the speaker levels
[10:18] <Tedd> soundray: I've played with Alsamixer foreer.
[10:18] <munzir> soundray: yes it loads the module but still something wrong. let me try ...
[10:18] <SAM_theman> hello
[10:18] <munzir> soundray: thx for this tip. they should update the wiki page
[10:18] <SAM_theman> I am having some trouble with ubuntu version 5.10
[10:18] <soundray> Tedd: have you looked at the wiki?
[10:18] <munzir> soundray: from where did you figure this tip?
[10:19] <soundray> munzir: not before dapper is released
[10:19] <daryl> Does anyone understand why WoW install isn't running, and says the C Drive doesn't have enough space?  28 gigs free.
[10:19] <Tedd> soundray: On ALSAMIXER?
[10:19] <ubuntu> bbrazil; whats the command to make a partition mkpartition?
[10:19] <SAM_theman> I am trying to use my microphone but doesn't seem to work.And my games work but their is no sound comming from them
[10:19] <Tedd> No.
[10:19] <soundray> !tell Tedd about sound
[10:20] <bkw> will the installation of ubuntu recognize that there's a windows installation, and add it to the bootloader automaticlly?
[10:20] <AngryElf> what do i do if there's a parse error in my /etc/sudoers and visudo refuses to open it?
[10:20] <soundray> munzir, I looked at the equivalent kernel/sound/bluetooth/ directory under my current kernel.
[10:20] <murph2481__> well the good news is after the beta2 dapper release all wireless problems for my desktop are solved (netgear 108mbps superG PCI)
[10:20] <JDahl> AngryElf, you can edit it with any editor
[10:20] <ChAmkiLa> hello room
[10:20] <cabloz> bkw: yes
[10:20] <fantasai2> what's the kernel line in the grub config for booting ubuntu?
[10:20] <soundray> murph2481__: yeah, dapper is good that way. Better to discuss in #ubuntu+1 though
[10:21] <soundray> fantasai2: it's highly machine specific
[10:21] <AngryElf> JDahl, it won't open
[10:21] <ChAmkiLa> how can I create files and folders through windows in ubuntu through samba?
[10:21] <AngryElf> i can't copy it, move it, open it, visudo it
[10:21] <fantasai2> soundray: read me yours?
[10:21] <bbrazil> ubuntu: you can use fdisk for it
[10:22] <JDahl> AngryElf, you can't login as root and edit it with vim/emacs/gedit... ?
[10:22] <soundray> fantasai2: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-20-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=5 noapic single
[10:22] <fantasai2> soundray: thanks
[10:22] <soundray> fantasai2: oops, that was the recovery one, but you get the idea
[10:22] <AngryElf> last i checked you can't log in as root in ubuntu
[10:22] <fantasai2> yeah :)
[10:22] <mpmc> How do I install KDE?
[10:23] <JDahl> AngryElf, I think it depends on installation mode (expert has root I think)
[10:23] <ubuntu> bbrail fdisk mkpartition then resize2fs to mkswap
[10:23] <soundray> mpmc: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[10:23] <JDahl> AngryElf, but otherwise - yes - you're screwed
[10:23] <mpmc> thanks
[10:23] <ChAmkiLa> can someone help please - how can I create files and folders through windows machine in my ubuntu through samba?
[10:23] <haus> try synaptic
[10:23] <murph2481__> can you edit/save NTFS files in ubuntu? from my XP partition?
[10:24] <JDahl> AngryElf, what about recovery mode - doesn't that prompt you for a root password?
[10:24] <AngryElf> trying to figure out how to get into recovery mode using yaboot
[10:24] <soundray> murph2481__: ntfs writing is not supported in Ubuntu. Best to create a FAT32 partition to exchange files with a dualbooting Windows.
[10:25] <inc|freaky> hi all. im using kubuntu dapper on my laptop but it seems that even if i run cpuburn the CPU doesnt step up (switch to higher CPU frequencies) ... is there any solution? its on a Amilo M 1437G
[10:25] <amphi> AngryElf: append 1 to the kernel command line
[10:25] <pianoboy3333> I like the gnome mouse theme a lot, but has anyone redone it in a different color? Like blue?
[10:25] <jmoncayo> i get kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!!
[10:25] <Rudemeister> kill -1 -1
[10:25] <soundray> inc|freaky: "sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop"
[10:26] <murph2481__> soundray do you know if there are any plans to chagne that?
[10:26] <jmoncayo> /sbin/init: 429: cannot open dev/console: No Such file
[10:26] <jmoncayo> could somebody help me?
[10:26] <amphi> jmoncayo: what did you do?
[10:26] <dli> how to install fonts for wine, it got black boxes now
[10:26] <jmoncayo> amphi, nothing
[10:26] <soundray> murph2481__: I don't know of any plans, but I doubt it will be supported, given that ntfs is such a kludgy, closed-source mess.
[10:26] <inc|freaky> soundray: k i did that it still doesnt step up
[10:26] <Anusien> Is there a 'fsck' equivalent for NTFS?
[10:26] <SAM_theman> whats this mean?
[10:26] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/702400
[10:27] <Pr0hibited> Hey guys, I need help... Ubuntu won't resolve any host names at all. If I were to ping a domain like google.com, it'd give me an errror, and on my chat it doesn't show me the host names of people
[10:27] <dli> Anusien, no
[10:27] <jmoncayo> amphi, i just restarted the box because i connected one new hard drive
[10:27] <soundray> inc|freaky: your ACPI implementation may be broken. Try "sudo update-rc.d powernowd remove", then reboot.
[10:27] <ubuntu> bbrazil: fdisk mkpartition then resize2fs to mkswap
[10:27] <dli> Pr0hibited, /etc/resolv.conf
[10:28] <inc|freaky> soundray: but i want acpi to work not to remove it ;D
[10:28] <soundray> inc|freaky: that command removes frequency scaling, not ACPI.
[10:28] <Pr0hibited> Dli - Yeah, I don't know what to put in that, that's the problem. For "nameservers", for domain name i put fuse.net (MY IP)
[10:28] <Pr0hibited> Any way I can get the name servers =S
[10:28] <RandolphCarter> are there any _really_ good reasons to use AMD64 over x86? (I can get fglrx accel to work in x86, but not AMD64)
[10:28] <enkrav> Has anybody noticed this annoying thing: If more users are logged in (on F7 F8 etc.) and the user on F8 plugs in his usb stick, the USB stick will be owned by the user on F7 that probably is away and has the screensaver lock his session
[10:29] <Cooner750> Hello
[10:29] <soundray> RandolphCarter: depends on your use.
[10:29] <inc|freaky> soundray: it says:
[10:29] <soundray> RandolphCarter: for general desktop, i386 is better
[10:29] <soundray> inc|freaky: do not paste here
[10:29] <paniq> i got a problem
[10:29] <inc|freaky> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/powernowd exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[10:29] <dli> Pr0hibited, your IP should tell you the IPs for DNS
[10:29] <paniq> my girlfriend installed ubuntu and has only 60hz for selection
[10:29] <RandolphCarter> soundray: sounds more useful then, it's not like I'm doing video editing
[10:29] <soundray> RandolphCarter: for numbercrunching, amd64 may be faster.
[10:29] <paniq> what can she do?
[10:29] <inc|freaky> soundray: its only that line the multiline editor opened, else i would have pasted it in one line
[10:29] <enkrav> so user on F8 *won't be able to access his usb stick* and has to ask the user on F7 to type in his password and log out/ kill his session with CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[10:29] <inc|freaky> sry
[10:29] <dli> Pr0hibited, if it's dhcp, it should be auto
[10:30] <strolchi> #ubuntu-de
[10:30] <soundray> inc|freaky: use it with the -f option then.
[10:30] <fantasai2> soundray: what was the name of the config file, menu.lst?
[10:30] <soundray> strolchi: /join #ubuntu-de
[10:30] <jmoncayo> amphi, it says pivot_root: No such file or directory
[10:30] <amphi> RandolphCarter: what has become of Harley Warren? ;)
[10:30] <soundray> fantasai2: for the grub menu, yes
[10:30] <inc|freaky> ok ill reboot then now
[10:30] <inc|freaky> brb
[10:30] <fantasai2> soundray: is there a grub.conf in that directory too?
[10:30] <Pr0hibited> So should I use both nameservers (eg. write two lines nameserver ns1.fuse.net and on a next line "nameserver ns2.fuse.net" ?
[10:30] <soundray> fantasai2: not afaik
[10:30] <pbx> Just slap me if I should ask this question in a GNOME channel somewhere. I'm running 6.06b2, checking out the Deskbar. I deleted the keyboard shortcut and can't get it back. Any advice? That part of the UI doesn't seem finished  :)
[10:31] <soundray> pbx: you should ask this question in #ubuntu+1
[10:31] <asaaaaaa> Stupid question: I'm trying to create a patch for a program, I've modified several directories. I wan to get diff from .c .h and .am files  but I don't  Makefiles, CVS/Entries and all that crap
[10:31] <pbx> soundray: Is that the channel for "special" users like me?
[10:31] <asaaaaaa>  diff -urpP dir_orig dir_new  > patch  is not the way
[10:31] <paniq> my girlfriend installed ubuntu and has only 60hz for video selection
[10:31] <paniq> what can she do?
[10:31] <fantasai2> soundray: k, thanks
[10:31] <AngryElf> amphi if i do "Linux 1" at the boot prompt the Ubuntu startup screen starts scrolling by and about halfway through stops "sending all processes the TERM signal"
[10:32] <pbx> paniq: It's not a laptop, is it?
[10:32] <ubuntu> bbrazil: fdisk mkpartition then resize2fs to mkswap
[10:32] <soundray> !tell paniq about fixres
[10:32] <serp> I accidently closed the panel on the bottom of the screen
[10:32] <serp> how do I get it back?
[10:32] <paniq> pbx, no it isnt
[10:32] <soundray> serp: right-click in the upper panel, select Add Panel
[10:32] <pbx> Goodbye Ubuntu+0
[10:32] <captine> Does anyone have any advice for Newbie's on whether to run 32 or 64 bit on a turion Notebook?  What is easier, quicker etc?
[10:33] <rmlightning> this is a strange problem.  when i start up my dapper desktop, it says that upgrades need to be downloaded, but when i open the update manager it says that it can't open because another one is already open.  there is nothing else open on the computer though
[10:33] <Pr0hibited> ok I did that..
[10:33] <paniq> soundray: so?
[10:33] <Pr0hibited> should I reboot my server.
[10:33] <RandolphCarter> captine: do you have an ATI graphics card?
[10:33] <Pr0hibited> Or :S
[10:33] <dli> Pr0hibited, how can you use domainname in setting DNS itself :(
[10:33] <soundray> captine: amd64 *can* be faster for certain apps. Generally, you'll be better off with i386
[10:33] <soundray> paniq: look for a pm from ubotu
[10:33] <Pr0hibited> ...I dunno
[10:33] <Pr0hibited> I opened resolv.conf and it had
[10:34] <captine> RandolphCarter: Yes.  And i don't have an internet connection when in Ubunu, so can't install drivers :)
[10:34] <dli> Pr0hibited, that's a mistake, then
[10:34] <Pr0hibited> domain fuse.net [line 2]  nameserver [none] 
[10:34] <RandolphCarter> captine: hmm :/ if it's ati, I'd got i386 for the meantime, there are some serious problems with fglrx on AMD64 right now
[10:34] <Pr0hibited> Then what should I have in there.
[10:34] <dli> Pr0hibited, do  you know your DNS?
[10:34] <Pr0hibited> ns1.fuse.net & ns2.fuse.net
[10:34] <soundray> RandolphCarter: are there? I'm running fglrx and amd64
[10:35] <dli> Pr0hibited, 216.68.1.100 216.68.2.100
[10:35] <RandolphCarter> soundray: I just had to regress to i386 to stop fglrx hanging the whole PC when I shutdown or switched from X (I call that serious ^_^) :)
[10:35] <newbie33> who can tell what screen is?
[10:35] <captine> RandolphCarter: Cool.  Next thing is the ubuntu CD doesn't seem to come native with PPPoE app.  I need this else cannot connect to internet at friends shop, to install ati.  Any advice?
[10:35] <soundray> RandolphCarter: no problems.
[10:35] <hunter85> hi!
[10:35] <RandolphCarter> soundray: google for "X800 fglrx hang" :)
[10:36] <JDahl> soundray, I kept getting random lockups using the restricted drivers with AMD64
[10:36] <captine> RandolphCarter: I am currently connected though Cellphone (infra red)
[10:36] <dli> Pr0hibited, put one IP after "nameserver", each line
[10:36] <Pr0hibited> Ok
[10:36] <deefzi> does anyone have vmware workstation 5?
[10:36] <Pr0hibited> Should I remove "domain"
[10:36] <Pr0hibited> ?
[10:36] <hunter85> could anyone help me with partition while installing ubuntu??
[10:36] <ubuntu> soundray: bbrazil is resting he told me to use fdisk to create partition and resize2fs to mkswap i think ?
[10:36] <soundray> RandolphCarter: ah, okay, I have X200-something
[10:36] <dli> Pr0hibited, no need to
[10:36] <RandolphCarter> captine: ahh :/ not sure what's on the CD, sorry I can't help you with that part
[10:36] <rmlightning> does anyone know why it would say 'Only one software update tool is allowed to run at the same time even though there are no others open??
[10:36] <LinuxJones> captine: pppoeconf is not installed by default ?
[10:36] <soundray> ubuntu, so?
[10:36] <Pr0hibited> Sweet, thanks man :)
[10:37] <PrimoTurbo> how do I access the fglrx control panel
[10:37] <soundray> !info pppoeconf
[10:37] <PrimoTurbo> fglrx-control doesn't work :(
[10:37] <hunter85> how many partition do I need to install ubuntu??
[10:37] <PrimoTurbo> any ideas pls?
[10:37] <ubotu> pppoeconf: (configures PPPoE/ADSL connections), section net, is standard. Version: 1.8ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[10:37] <captine> LinuxJones: don;t knw.  last time i asked how to do ppoe thing, every1 seemed busy.  Will re-install 32bit ubuntu tonight and check
[10:37] <ubuntu> soundray: so at fdisk command prompt do i invoke fdisk mkpartition?
[10:37] <amphi> rmlightning: perhaps there's a stale lockfile
[10:37] <dli> hunter85, up to you, minimum 1
[10:38] <captine> LinuxJones: any idea hoe to get a USB-irda dongle to work?
[10:38] <PrimoTurbo> Guy any idea how to start fglrx-control?
[10:38] <KyoLptp`> what's the name of the power-management program for laptops?
[10:38] <soundray> ubuntu, what stage are you at exactly?
[10:38] <PrimoTurbo> ati's control panel
[10:38] <LinuxJones> captine: just run that command and follow the prompts and you ought to be ok.
[10:38] <captine> LinuxJones: so i can use my gprs cellphone modem
[10:38] <dli> PrimoTurbo, don't repeat, follow the ati howto
[10:38] <captine> LinuxJones: Thanks a mil. :)
[10:38] <thev> how can I stop a sudo cat?
[10:38] <PrimoTurbo> mkay :
[10:38] <LinuxJones> captine: I have no idea, good luck :)
[10:38] <rmlightning> amphi: how would i fix that?
[10:38] <hunter85> what settings for partitions??
[10:39] <soundray> PrimoTurbo: fireglcontrol
[10:39] <ubuntu> soundray : i have some unallocared space of 3gigs i want to creae a 1 gig swap
[10:39] <dli> hunter85, gparted or qtparted (you may have to install them)
[10:39] <slackern> thev: control+c ?
[10:39] <PrimoTurbo> thanks that worked :)
[10:39] <serp> soundray: thx it worked
[10:39] <Bryant> Anybody know how to fix the problem were links created by "make link" don't work?
[10:39] <thev> thanks slackern!
[10:39] <AngryElf> does anyone know how to get into recovery mode using yaboot?
[10:40] <bioSys> Hello community. I recompiled my kernel 4 times now, and its never able to mount my root fs, which is reiserfs. The splashscreen comes up but everything stops at "Mounting root filesystem \n Waiting for root fs". Can unsupported hardware cause this? I compiled reiserfs support in the kernel offcourse
[10:40] <amphi> rmlightning: see if /var/lib/dpkg/lock exists, is one
[10:41] <inc|freaky> soundray: i rebootet but the frequency still doesnt go up :_(
[10:41] <serp> how do I get dual screens to work like in windows?
[10:41] <Bryant> *crys, nobody?
[10:41] <dli> bioSys, and ide/scsi chipset in?
[10:41] <serp> ie when I maximize something on one screen, it doesn't go over the whole thing
[10:41] <dli> bioSys, what disk?
[10:41] <bioSys> dli: yes. Its a sate dma 133
[10:42] <amphi> Bryant: what do you mean?
[10:42] <bioSys> sata
[10:42] <rmlightning> amphi:  it does exist.  should i delete the file or change it or what?
[10:42] <dli> bioSys, then, you have sata support problem
[10:42] <inc|freaky> soundray?
[10:42] <Bryant> Ok, I want a link to a .exe file (which is set to open with wine) to my desktop
[10:43] <amphi> rmlightning: delete it, as long as no package tools are running
[10:43] <majd> can i get the xfce-panel in gnome?
[10:43] <Bryant> for some reason when i make it it doesn't work
[10:43] <amphi> Bryant: oh, sorry, I don't know about gnome
[10:43] <bioSys> dli: but it worked when I had ext3 root fs
[10:43] <soundray> inc|freaky: sorry, I'm out of suggestions
[10:43] <Bryant> does it work with the kde versio?
[10:44] <inc|freaky> ok, but how do i put that powernowd thingy back into the rc.s?
[10:44] <amphi> Bryant: I don't know about kde either ;)
[10:44] <Bryant> O, lol
[10:44] <Bryant> what do you use :)
[10:44] <amphi> Bryant: openbox
[10:45] <teh> anyone know how to install a custom true type font?
[10:45] <ubuntu> soundray:: i have some unallocared space of 3gigs i want to creae a 1 gig swap
[10:45] <munzir> soundray: sudo hidd --search doesn't reveal my couple bluetooth devices, any hint?
[10:45] <soundray> ubuntu, with fdisk or gparted, you create a partition marked as swap (type 82). Then you format it with mkswap /dev/hdX
[10:45] <amphi> ubuntu: cfdisk is a good option
[10:45] <rmlightning> amphi: i deleted the file, but when i open update manager it still says the same thing,  any other ideas?
[10:45] <soundray> inc|freaky: update-rc.d powernowd defaults
[10:45] <munzir> teh: system settings
[10:45] <rmlightning> thank you for your help
[10:45] <dli> bioSys, okay, fsck
[10:45] <munzir> teh: system settings -> font installer
[10:46] <inc|freaky> soundray: thankyou :))
[10:46] <amphi> rmlightning: look for other files called 'lock' under /var/lib perhaps - try 'find /var/lib -name lock'
[10:46] <r0xoR> where can i get help on using/installing the "expert mode" ubuntu?
[10:46] <dli> bioSys, you can boot livecd to fsck
[10:46] <amphi> r0xoR: if you need to ask, should you use it? ;)
[10:46] <ubuntu> soundray: whats the command line with fdisk please
[10:47] <r0xoR> amphi, heheh actually i should...
[10:47] <r0xoR> amphi, i'll admit i'm lazy atm, i haven't googled or wiki'ed yet... just thought someone might have the link handy
[10:47] <bioSys> dli: ok thanks
[10:47] <Anusien> Bug Buddy just told me I'm running an outdated version of Ubuntu, but this is a brand new LiveDVD (less than 2 months old).
[10:47] <soundray> ubuntu, I don't know. Use it interactively: fdisk /dev/hda ; then 'n' for new partition, 't' for type (82),
[10:48] <soundray> ubuntu, w for write
[10:48] <r0xoR> sooo, anyone? i'm googling right now
[10:48] <soundray> r0xoR: that's plain rude
[10:48] <bioSys> dli: but, wait, its working with the default kernel, im here now
[10:48] <Nilvio> i need some help
[10:49] <rmlightning> amphi:  it found three others under /var/lib.../apt and /aptitude among them.  is it safe to delete them?
[10:49] <Nilvio> my wow lag very much
[10:49] <r0xoR> soundray, sorry to offend you...
[10:49] <serp> how do I get the Open Url thing in gnome-terminal to work with a new version of firefox?
[10:49] <Nilvio> because i need direct x how i install direct x ??
[10:49] <dli> bioSys, btw, are you sure it's the correct kernel you are booting?
[10:49] <r0xoR> soundray, expert mode is just an install thing right?
[10:49] <Tedd> how would I extract alsa-driver to my /usr/src folder?
[10:49] <ubuntu> soundray this is in live cd so i must be careful at root its a big mistake if i grt it wrong
[10:49] <Tedd> I can't use archive tool because of root and such.
[10:49] <r0xoR> like i just type "expert" when it says boot: y/n ?
[10:49] <bioSys> dli: yes, very shure
[10:49] <soundray> r0xoR: I'm not offended. Just to point out you're not increasing your chances of being helped.
[10:50] <salmiak_> Nilvio, what gfxcard do you have?
[10:50] <r0xoR> k
[10:50] <Nilvio> i have ati radeon 9600xt
[10:50] <amphi> rmlightning: yeah, if no package tools are running, I believe so
[10:50] <r0xoR> soundray, anyway, do you know if there is a document explaining the expert mode ubuntu process?
[10:50] <ompaul> r0xoR, unless you have a few years of linux behind you don't do expert :-)
[10:50] <soundray> ubuntu, yeah, be careful then...
[10:50] <amphi> r0xoR: experts need no docs ;)
[10:50] <r0xoR> ompaul, got more than a few years
[10:51] <r0xoR> amphi, hahah... no... n00bs who think they're experts need no docs :)
[10:51] <soundray> r0xoR: bet you have at least 20 ;)
[10:51] <r0xoR> soundray, naw, about 6
[10:51] <r0xoR> i've been a programmer for 12 though... good programmer... semi-informed linux admin
[10:51] <soundray> r0xoR: all I've seen about expert mode is on the pre-boot screens (Alt-F2 - F5)
[10:52] <salmiak_> ati...i'd bet it's the ati driver making the lag...ATi haven't released a good driver. I tried to get WoW to work on a Radeon 9700Pro. I had to give up. blarh
[10:52] <bioSys> dli: but I am wondering, when I download the kernel sources, and do a menuconfig, is the default settings the same as the settings in the default kernel package?
[10:52] <r0xoR> mmm, ok so no docs describing how to use it? that you know of?
[10:52] <Markus_> hi, everyone:i have just installed ubuntu everything goes right until i try to log in, then the screen freezes and the starting sound plays again and again and again..., can anybody help me?
[10:52] <ompaul> r0xoR, then its like a typical install before RH and SuSE got the gui
[10:52] <Nilvio> how i can get my wow work then
[10:52] <r0xoR> ompaul, or more like slack/debian/gentoo?
[10:52] <r0xoR> plz say it's not like gentoo :)
[10:52] <dli> bioSys, no, you have to go over menuconfig
[10:52] <Nilvio> it need direct x but i cant instal it
[10:52] <blazemonger> why is ist the prboom package crashes my computer?
[10:52] <ompaul> r0xoR, play with it if you must
[10:53] <thelsdj> is there a nice way to install older nvidia drivers in dapper? the 8576 ones don't appear to work but the 7667 from 5.10 work
[10:53] <blazemonger> can someone else testr the package out?
[10:53] <r0xoR> k
[10:53] <salmiak_> Nilvio, directx is windows only afaik
[10:53] <Nilvio> i know that
[10:53] <ompaul> r0xoR, frankly I see no need for it unless you got some "mad stuff" going on - typical server or whatever should not need it
[10:53] <Nilvio> but how i then get wow work in linux
[10:53] <Nilvio> i have wow installed
[10:53] <ompaul> !wow
[10:53] <ubotu> wow is, like, totally, To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[10:54] <bioSys> dli: ok, thanks for your help, Ill dive in to the menuconfig once again
[10:54] <M_Fatih> how can i mount my pcmca device.. i have a card reader. when i'm inserting my SD/MMC card, dmesg changes like this : [4303074.922000]  cs: pcmcia_socket0: unable to apply power.          [4303075.803000]  pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0             [4303075.803000]  pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0        how can i use/mount my card?
[10:54] <r0xoR> ompaul, mmmm... mad stuff... i need to custom compile three outside kernel modules and reconfigure scripts inside /etc/rc*.d
[10:54] <r0xoR> not sure if that qualifies as mad stuff
[10:54] <rmlightning> amphi: no package files are running.  i deleted all lock files.  and it still does the same thing when i open update manager :(
[10:54] <ompaul> r0xoR, not in my book
[10:54] <r0xoR> k
[10:54] <dli> bioSys, go over all steps
[10:55] <amphi> rmlightning: perhaps there's some other lock in /var/lock ?
[10:55] <iceman> wild and awsome OSX on a intel pc ..
[10:55] <amphi> rmlightning: hard for me to say, as I only use apt-get and dpkg
[10:55] <iceman> Full Apple OSX on a intel P4 2.8 ghz system
[10:56] <dli> bioSys, if you can still change, reiserfs is not a good choice, try jfs/ext3, or xfs, if you have UPS
[10:56] <iceman> this is a intel pc not an intel mac
[10:56] <amphi> iceman: ah...
[10:56] <Tedd> how would I extract alsa-driver to my /usr/src folder?
[10:56] <jak08> yea you can visit www.osx86project.org for more info on the pirated install on a normal pc
[10:56] <iceman> OSX86 project ... works
[10:57] <bioSys> dli: yes, I actually think ill do that
[10:57] <Tedd> I can't do it because of the permissions.
[10:57] <Nilvio> how i can install ati 9600xt drivers !!
[10:57] <rmlightning> amphi:  thanks for your help.  i will try to get help elsewhere.  thanks for your time thoiugh
[10:57] <MystaMax> hello, I'm installing ubuntu on a Dell PE2850 w/ a hardware RAID5 configured, and received the following error:  The install cannot figure out how to install the base system. No installable CD-ROM was found and no valid mirror was configured. ANY IDEAS???
[10:57] <iceman> kind of cool ..
[10:57] <MystaMax> but my CD-ROM was present, its a ShipIT CD I received.
[10:57] <amphi> rmlightning: sorry it didn't help
[10:58] <Nilvio> where i can download 9600xt drivers and how i install it ?
[10:58] <captine> RandolphCarter: sorry to bother again.  Befor i install 32 bit, when i previously tried, installation wouldnt work without includeing "noapic" and "nolapic" commands.  i have googled those words, and don't fully understand what they are for?
[10:58] <amphi> !fglrx
[10:58] <ubotu> fglrx is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:58] <rmlightning> no prob.  not your fault.  i appreciatet the help
[10:58] <amphi> Nilvio: ^^^
[10:58] <captine> RandolphCarter: is it ok to install it like that?
[10:58] <jak08> that site will tell you what hardware works and what doesn't it is kinda indepth , on the recod they only help the beta people but they tell you where to get the pirated versions and stuff
[10:58] <amphi> rmlightning: apt-get should work now though
[10:59] <MystaMax> any comments on my question?
[10:59] <merriam> MystaMax: does it mean the drive?
[10:59] <ubuntu> soundray:its not as eay as it looks fdisk is asking for start and end details
[10:59] <MystaMax> merriam: I dont think so, it created the Partitions just fine
[11:00] <merriam> MystaMax: by the way, the ShipIT cd is presumably 5.10, and nearly out of date.
[11:00] <ompaul> captine, wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[11:01] <merriam> MystaMax: can you see the contents of the cd at that point?
[11:01] <captine> ompaul: thanks
[11:01] <MystaMax> merriam: yes, but its a stable release and I have no intentions of running Dapper soon.
[11:01] <MystaMax> merriam: what do u mean by your last comment
[11:02] <merriam> MystaMax: do you know how to start a shell and list the contents of the cd?
[11:02] <merriam> MystaMax: ah, but it perhaps hasn't got to the stage where you can do that.
[11:02] <MystaMax> merriam: no it hasnt
[11:02] <paniq> hum
[11:02] <serp> how can I access the universe repository with apt-get?
[11:02] <MystaMax> I'm attempting to install ubuntu
[11:03] <MystaMax> should I bring the CD back to my desktop and try to read from it?
[11:03] <paniq> my girlfriend has another problem: she cant access her windows partition because only root may access it. is there a convenient way for her to fix that problem?
[11:03] <Madpilot> serp, you need to edit your sources.list
[11:03] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell serp about sources
[11:03] <FatalFury> does anyone know what to type to log into the mysql root in the terminal?
[11:03] <FatalFury> i have the root password set
[11:03] <voraistos> paniq: why didnt u mount it during install ?
[11:04] <ubuntu> hi
[11:04] <captine> ompaul: that site just gives a description, not a work around/fix for the problem.  any other links that you know of that deal with this?
[11:04] <MystaMax> fatalfury: you may want to ask this in the #mysql channels
[11:04] <serp> Madpilot: thanks
[11:04] <voraistos> paniq: this way it works automatically
[11:04] <FatalFury> oh ok
[11:04] <paniq> voraistos: it is mounted, but initially belongs to the user root.
[11:04] <paniq> voraistos: she has no access rights as user.
[11:04] <ompaul> paniq, chown herusername:herusername /themountpoint
[11:05] <MystaMax> FatalFury: but its , mysql -u -p -h
[11:05] <Cattack> How do I install HPLIP in ubuntu?
[11:05] <paniq> ompaul: not while its mounted
[11:05] <Cattack> I have an inkjet printer that requires it
[11:05] <voraistos> paniq: strange, i had it available automatically, with no sudo
[11:05] <MystaMax> -u username -p password -h hostname
[11:05] <Madpilot> Cattack, thru Synaptic
[11:05] <ompaul> paniq, umount /themountpoint
[11:05] <_jason> !info hplip
[11:05] <ubotu> hplip: (HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (hplip) - GUI), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.5-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 58 kB, Installed size: 508 kB
[11:05] <Tedd> how would I extract alsa-driver.tar.bz2 to my /usr/src folder?
[11:05] <dli> Cattack, sudo apt-get install hplip
[11:05] <Madpilot> Cattack, you'll need to enable the Universe repository, if you haven't already
[11:05] <ompaul> paniq, the right way to do it is system administration disks
[11:05] <merriam> MystaMax: I think it's the drive -- it's a hardware compatibility problem.
[11:05] <Cattack> How do I do that Madpilot
[11:05] <rmlightning> amphi:  heh.  apt-get doesn't work now either.  it says 'Could not open lock file'
[11:06] <FatalFury> mystamax, its mysql -u
[11:06] <ubuntu> how to create a swap partition in relation to for examle hda1 the partition for swap is on hda2 is 1 gig for 768 MB of RAM is that uk
[11:06] <Cattack> I normally use yum (as I am from the FC world)
[11:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Cattack about universe
[11:06] <voraistos> paniq: i dont remember where you can automount stuff, but mabe your /mnt dir is not chmoded for her ?
 paniq, the right way to do it is system administration disks
[11:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Cattack about synaptic
[11:06] <Paul159190> oh crap, what video driver should l use for a generic video card, l am trying the live cd and its asking me which one, shall l use fbdev????
[11:06] <Madpilot> Cattack, see the two msgs the bot just sent you for details
[11:06] <merriam> MystaMax: see this fix on debian:  http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2005/07/msg00377.html
[11:06] <MystaMax> FatalFury: then how do you submit a pass?
[11:06] <ompaul> paniq, it is the menu - and as we are at cross purposes there I leave it
[11:07] <Cattack> so there is no yum for ubuntu?
[11:07] <paniq> ompaul: allright, thx
[11:07] <Cattack> *besides apt-get
[11:07] <Xenguy> Cattack: synaptic (you don't want yum)
[11:07] <FatalFury> mystamax, thats what i want to know
[11:07] <amphi> rmlightning: that's strange - you didn't delete the directory?
[11:07] <Cattack> ok, thanks for the information
[11:07] <Madpilot> Cattack, there's apt-get, and Synaptic is the graphical front-end to apt-get
[11:08] <MystaMax> merriam: thanks for the link i will read shortly and get back to you
[11:08] <voraistos> ompaul: now u have said it, i am just realizing i have never been there !!!!! (the disk admin panel!)
[11:08] <MystaMax> Fatalfury: lets say a user was created w/in mysql w/ username: max and pass: 1234
[11:08] <FatalFury> mystamax, i get this error in console ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[11:08] <FatalFury> kk
[11:08] <MystaMax> Fatalfury: you'd log in w/ mysql -u max -p
[11:08] <MystaMax> and then it'd ask you for a password
[11:08] <MystaMax> you typed the masked pass and you should login
[11:09] <MystaMax> but if you just installed mysql for the first time
[11:09] <FatalFury> oh ok
[11:09] <MystaMax> the install is very insecure
[11:09] <orangey> hey all!
[11:09] <amphi> rmlightning: do 'cd /var/lib/dpkg; sudo touch lock' and try apt-get again
[11:09] <orangey> what does scim do?
[11:09] <dli> orangey, XIM input
[11:09] <orangey> dli: for what?
[11:09] <orangey> dli: I'm trying to figure out what to use this thing for..
[11:09] <MystaMax> Fatal: does that make sense?
[11:10] <FatalFury> when i type the pass in it tells me that ERROR 1049: Unknown database 'mypass'
[11:10] <ubuntu> ompaul: still got loads to do!!!!!!!!!!
[11:10] <nemik> hi, does anyone else get crashes from opening totem play? sometimes gnome completely crashes my laptop and i have to restart
[11:10] <MystaMax> what exactly did you type @ terminal
[11:10] <FatalFury> sudo mysql -u root -p mypass
[11:11] <FatalFury> wait i got it
[11:11] <MystaMax> no sudo
[11:11] <FatalFury> no its no mypass
[11:11] <MystaMax> yes
[11:11] <MystaMax> i was trying to explain that to u :)
[11:11] <Nilvio> enyone can give mee link ati radeon 9600 drivers
[11:11] <FatalFury> k thnx
[11:11] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Nilvio about ati
[11:12] <amphi> !tell Nilvio about fglrx
[11:12] <MystaMax> Fatal: read this http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/default-privileges.html
[11:13] <edge> does the Ubuntu have a live cd that supports RT2500 (wireless driver)
[11:13] <Cattack> Do I need to reconfigure the timeouts and such?
[11:13] <Cattack> I am unluckey enough to have dialup.
[11:13] <FatalFury> kk thanks for the help
[11:13] <rmlightning> amphi:  i did what you suggested but it still says the same thing
[11:13] <MystaMax> marriam: how did you come across that link you sent me?
[11:14] <SAM_theman> Please Guys help me
[11:14] <SAM_theman> My Sound isn't working in my games either my mic
[11:14] <SAM_theman> who has skype
[11:14] <voraistos> try to launch your games with sudo
[11:14] <SAM_theman> i did
[11:14] <voraistos> i have skype
[11:14] <SAM_theman> let me try it again
[11:15] <SAM_theman> "sudo et"
[11:15] <voraistos> yea
[11:15] <voraistos> should work
[11:15] <FreshPrince> jemand der zuflligerweise auch gentoo benutzt?
[11:15] <voraistos> that is how i do
[11:15] <Madpilot> !de
[11:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[11:15] <ompaul> SAM_theman, please stop using the enter key in the place of a comma, thanks
[11:15] <ompaul> !skype
[11:15] <ubotu> [skype]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[11:15] <SAM_theman> not working still
[11:15] <voraistos> strange
[11:16] <bbrazil> voraistos: *shudder*
[11:16] <voraistos> hum... are u using alsa mixing ?
[11:16] <ompaul> SAM_theman, did you turn on your mic? try alsamixer and make sure nothing is "muted"
[11:16] <voraistos> bbrazil: shudder? what does that mean?
[11:16] <SAM_theman> yes
[11:16] <SAM_theman> all i did
[11:17] <bbrazil> voraistos: that using root to play games is a bad idea
[11:17] <voraistos> yea
[11:17] <SAM_theman> My mic works to because it works on windows which i hardly use
[11:17] <voraistos> but thats the only way
[11:17] <amphi> rmlightning: are you sure no other package program is running? try ps aux | less and see
[11:17] <ompaul> voraistos, it means that he disapproves of you doing that
[11:17] <bbrazil> voraistos: could you run 'id'?
[11:17] <SAM_theman> i even when hear
[11:17] <SAM_theman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=653625
[11:18] <voraistos> bbrazil: for et, i have to sudo it to get sound
[11:18] <ompaul> SAM_theman, try ringing "echo123", it is the way to test skype
[11:19] <SAM_theman> and just to tell u my comp is brand new about 2-3 months old
[11:19] <bbrazil> voraistos: It is highly likely that there's another way
[11:19] <AngryElf> how come when i've done "sudo -i" i frequently get "Gtk-WARNING  **: cannot open display"?   how do i let root run these apps?
[11:19] <voraistos> bbrazil: what is id for ? what info do u need ?
[11:19] <bbrazil> voraistos: it'll tell me what groups you are in
[11:19] <SAM_theman> Amd 3800+ X2 Daul Core and 1GB ram...
[11:19] <voraistos> i paste it here
[11:19] <voraistos> uid=1000(benjamin) gid=1000(benjamin) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(benjamin)
[11:20] <kingspawn> AngryElf: gksudo
[11:20] <SAM_theman> problem with sound device
[11:20] <bbrazil> voraistos: ls -ls /dev/dsp ?
[11:21] <ompaul> bbrazil, they are right for ubuntu
[11:21] <Madpilot> AngryElf, rather than "sudo -i", just do "sudo name-of-app" - see if that works better
[11:21] <voraistos> 0 crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2006-05-06 13:59 /dev/dsp
[11:21] <voraistos> i dont like the root word
[11:21] <AngryElf> kingspawn, gksudo app still gives the same problem
[11:21] <AngryElf> Madpilot, it occurs both ways
[11:21] <bbrazil> voraistos: it just means that root owns the device, quite normal
[11:21] <voraistos> yea, so what do i do ?
[11:21] <Madpilot> AngryElf, odd - no idea what's up, then - not a problem I've had (yet)...
[11:22] <bbrazil> voraistos: sudo strace et 2>&1 | fgrep open
[11:23] <bbrazil> voraistos: that'll give a list of every file that et uses, I'm interested in anything in /dev
[11:23] <ompaul> voraistos, start the game in a terminal with no "sudo" and take the output and put it in a pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org) and let us know what url it is
[11:23] <nemik> so how would i find what hard-drive name is tied to what in /dev? like the grub menu needs to know hd0,0 or something like that but all i know is that it is hde, what does it translate to?
[11:23] <mythica> hi guys
[11:23] <mythica> I am having some weird issues with my Xserver
[11:23] <mythica> _X11TransSocketINETConnect() can't get address for localmachine:6000: Name or service not known
[11:23] <mythica> can someone offer me some advice?
[11:24] <amphi> nemik: hde is (hd4) to grub
[11:24] <RandolphCarter> localmachine? seems a bit odd
[11:24] <RandolphCarter> check your /etc/hosts file
[11:24] <salmiak_> localhost? :/
[11:24] <nemik> amphi, thanks a lot, i'll give it a shot!
[11:24] <mythica> ok
[11:24] <rmlightning> amphi:  i did what you asked and i do not see any others open.
[11:24] <voraistos> bbrazil, ompaul : list was too long.terminal croped it. no /dev
[11:25] <mythica> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost mythicness
[11:25] <bbrazil> voraistos: add a grep /dev to the end of that command
[11:25] <RandolphCarter> mythica: hmm, if this is something you're typing in, you should use 'localhost' instead of 'localmachine'
[11:25] <shion> t' es la
[11:25] <mythica> what should i try change?
[11:25] <amphi> rmlightning: you running apt-get with sudo??
[11:25] <mythica> RandolphCarter, ok, but i cant even add hosts using xhost:
[11:25] <RandolphCarter> if it's something magical, just add a line in /etc/hosts '127.0.0.1 localmachine'
[11:25] <voraistos> wait up, i am boosting my thing
[11:25] <amphi> voraistos: stop that ;)
[11:25] <voraistos> why ?
[11:26] <RandolphCarter> mythica: adding that line to hosts is a bit of a hack, but it's the quickest way to fix it
[11:26] <Cattack> I am havin gan interesting thing with printing.    It is printing the same job over and over again endlessly until I cancel it
[11:26] <rmlightning> you know.  i don't remember.  let me try it again and make sure
[11:26] <wizzlefish> what is the easiest way to install Mozilla Thunderbird?
[11:27] <mythica> huh? so i should add "localmachine" to my hosts file?
[11:27] <merriam> MystaMax: google.  You misspelled my nick, so I didn't get notified.  -->  May 06 21:13:54 <MystaMax>	marriam: how did you come across that link you sent me?
[11:27] <mythica> wizzlefish, apt-get install thunderbird?
[11:27] <mythica> wizzlefish, search for the package using apt-cache search
[11:27] <SAM_theman> see this is what i get
[11:27] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/702525
[11:27] <RandolphCarter> mythica: I can imagine that'll fix it, yes
[11:27] <mythica> RandolphCarter, k lemme try
[11:27] <wizzlefish> thanks mythica
[11:28] <RandolphCarter> mythica: it's complaining it can't resolve 'localmachine', not sure why, but then I'm not sure what you're doing :)
[11:28] <Cattack> How do I make the print queue work correctly and only send 1 copy of jobs to the printer?
[11:28] <bbrazil> SAM_theman: sudo /dev/MAKEDEV dsp
[11:28] <bimberi> wizzlefish: you can also use Synaptic (System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager)
[11:29] <SAM_theman> /dev/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "dsp"
[11:29] <voraistos> bbrazil: open("/dev/dsp", O_RDWR)                = -1 EBUSY (Device or resource busy)
[11:29] <voraistos> write(2, "Could not open /dev/dsp\n", 24Could not open /dev/dsp
[11:29] <wizzlefish> oh wait, Thunderbird IS installed
[11:29] <rmlightning> amphi:  i wasn't.  when i did it started to work until i get this error about 10 sec into it 'E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.'
[11:29] <amphi> rmlightning: so do 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[11:29] <wizzlefish> I just can't find the directory where Thunderbird is
[11:29] <mythica> xhost:  unable to open display "localmachine:0.0"
[11:29] <mythica> still getting it
[11:30] <RandolphCarter> ahh, that's a different error completely
[11:30] <RandolphCarter> xhost + :)
[11:30] <mythica> 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.063 ms
[11:30] <amphi> SAM_theman: here, /dev/dsp is just a symlink to /dev/dsp0
[11:30] <Howitzer> Does anybody know of a way to convert .rm (realmedia files) to .wmv / .avi ?
[11:30] <mythica> I did
[11:30] <RandolphCarter> waa
[11:30] <RandolphCarter> echo, echo $DISPLAY
[11:30] <mythica> k
[11:30] <Senilix> Howitzer: mencoder?
[11:30] <mythica> localmachine:0.0
[11:30] <SAM_theman> /dev/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "dsp0"
[11:30] <Howitzer> Senilix, ty
[11:30] <RandolphCarter> export DISPLAY=:0
[11:31] <Paul159190> hi guys what is the video driver l should be using with a generic video card with ubuntu????????????????????
[11:31] <mythica> ok i did that
[11:31] <mythica> what does "export DISPLAY=:0" do exactly :p
[11:32] <RandolphCarter> try running it again I guess :)
[11:32] <mythica> ok i see it reset my $DISPLAY ?
[11:32] <RandolphCarter> it tells X programs where to look for an xserver
[11:32] <RandolphCarter> kinda
[11:32] <amphi> SAM_theman: then use mknod - it's char device, major 14 minor 3 owned by root:audio, perms 660
[11:32] <mythica> xhost produces: "access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect"
[11:32] <mythica> sweet
[11:32] <mythica> thanks RandolphCarter
[11:32] <voraistos> Paul159190: why not the vga driver ?
[11:32] <RandolphCarter> np's :)
[11:32] <mythica> now i just run xhost +localhost ?
[11:32] <mythica> and remove localmachine from hosts file
[11:33] <RandolphCarter> I usually just do xhost +, but yeah, that should work
[11:33] <rmlightning> amphi: i think it worked.  do i just have to type in 'sudo apt-get update'?
[11:33] <Paul159190> tried  vga it didn't work, tried fbdev too that didn't work :S
[11:33] <Paul159190> theres so many l dont want to try each one it will take me hours! :S
[11:33] <RandolphCarter> I'd check your bashrc and profile files for DISPLAY=localmachine:0 though, that variable can't have been set by chance
[11:33] <voraistos> strange
[11:33] <bbrazil> voraistos: that's a bit odd - something else is using the soundcard
[11:33] <mythica> eleeet, its all sorted
[11:33] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/702537
[11:33] <mythica> RandolphCarter, Thanks man
[11:33] <RandolphCarter> mythica: np's man :)
[11:33] <amphi> rmlightning: yeah
[11:33] <voraistos> bbrazil: yeah, i wonder what it is ?!
[11:33] <SAM_theman> how i use the mknod?
[11:34] <amphi> SAM_theman: man mknod explains the syntax
[11:34] <bbrazil> voraistos: you can use lsof to find out
[11:34] <dli> SAM_theman, why do you need mknod?
[11:34] <voraistos> bbrazil; how can i know what uses the soundcard ? yep, thx for the answer before the question ;)
[11:34] <SAM_theman> cause amphi said so
[11:34] <Paul159190> so can anybody recommend a generic video driver apart from fbdev or vga
[11:35] <voraistos> bbrazil: hmmmmm list seems long
[11:35] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: run 'lspci' in a terminal
[11:35] <bbrazil> voraistos: give it /dev/dsp as an argument
[11:35] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and put the link into chat
[11:35] <Paul159190> how, l'm using a live cd, l don't get chance 2 get to a terminal :(
[11:35] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: yes you do
[11:36] <Paul159190> plz explain noob style, l have done suse on other machines but this is got me confused
[11:36] <mythica> I have my gfx card outputting to tv, but as soon as X starts the tv's display goes blank
[11:36] <voraistos> bbrazil: firefox-b 8929 benjamin   36w   CHR   14,3      7087 /dev/dsp
[11:36] <voraistos> bbrazil ????????????????
[11:36] <FatalFury> does anyone know how to copy files to your root file system?
[11:36] <bbrazil> voraistos: probably flash
[11:36] <mythica> is it cos the res's / refresh rates are wrong?
[11:36] <voraistos> bbrazil; flash doesnt work on my computer
[11:37] <rmlightning> amphi:  that didn't work, but when i clicked on update manager after doing that dpkg configure thing it worked.  thanks tons for all the help.  my updates are installing now
[11:37] <Paul159190> lm just choosing another driver, it will probably fail so l'll get the error up and type in to that link u gave me
[11:37] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: select 'Applications->Accessories->Terminal'
[11:37] <bbrazil> voraistos: on my system it'd be flash ;)
[11:37] <voraistos> lol
[11:37] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: no, that would be nowhere near as useful as the lspci output
[11:37] <voraistos> but with alsa i thougt it was possible to have multiple sound users ?
[11:37] <ompaul> Paul159190, well there is vesa as one card option,
[11:37] <Paul159190> how can l run that program when the machine isn't even booted into a graphics thing
[11:38] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: ahhh, sorry, just run lspci
[11:38] <tobberman> hi there.. i got a problem with dualboot.. got winxp along with ubuntu.. installed xp first and it works fine when i choose it from grub.. but ubuntu doesnt work.. it gives me a error message.. /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off
[11:38] <bbrazil> voraistos: you on amd64 that doesn't support flash?
[11:38] <tobberman> anyone that can help me? i have googled it..
[11:38] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: type it in :) have a look for anything that says 'Multimedia video controller'
[11:38] <voraistos> bbrazil: its working ?!!!!!!!!! and no, i am on k7 kernel, and flash doesnt wnna work for some reason.
[11:38] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: or 'VGA compatible controller'
[11:39] <ompaul> voraistos, how did you try to install flash?
[11:39] <Paul159190> lol l think your missing the point randolph, l'm starting up off a live cd, it doesn't make it to the desktop, it gets to driver selection with the blue screen and then goes to the yellow ubuntu loading thing, then it kernels
[11:39] <voraistos> bbrazil: but no worries about that, i really screwed my system, i am thinking about a reinstall
[11:39] <FatalFury> does anyone know how to copy files to your root file system????
[11:39] <Paul159190> l cant load a program , theres no terminal or nothing... :S
[11:39] <voraistos> bbrazil: i tried absolutly everything
[11:39] <nemik> amphi, so hde2 would be hd1,1 on grub?
[11:39] <voraistos> bbrazil: lots of people helped me here, but there was just no way
[11:39] <nemik> i can't get it to boot
[11:39] <ompaul> voraistos, tell you what get the box up and running and come in here before you mod anytyhing
[11:40] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: I'm not missing the point.  I need to see what graphics card you're using to tell you which driver to use
[11:40] <AlmtyBob> I installed ubuntu last night and X started just fine, but now this morning when I boot it up it went through some package install routine again
[11:40] <ompaul> voraistos, just as a matter of interest how did you try to install flash? did you use some tool?
[11:40] <AlmtyBob> and now X doesn't load, bitches about not finding a mouse even though it's plugged in and is a working mouse
[11:40] <tobberman> can i force the live cd to write in a file on the harddrive?
[11:40] <FatalFury> no one knows the answer to my question?
[11:40] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: lspci shows you all the cards plugged into your computer, do you follow?
[11:40] <merriam> FatalFury: in what situation?
[11:40] <voraistos> ompaul; yes, and then no, and then no again
[11:40] <AlmtyBob> how can I have X try to find my mouse again if I plug it straight into USB instead of using the adaptor?
[11:40] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: oh, try pressing Ctl+F1 first
[11:41] <Paul159190> yes l do but l cant run that when lm in a command line etc
[11:41] <FatalFury> copy some files to the www folder
[11:41] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: yes, you can, it's a command line app.  type in 'lspci' and press return
[11:41] <slackern> tobberman: how do you mean? you want to edit a file on the harddrive from the livecd?
[11:41] <Paul159190> but theres nowhere to type that!
[11:41] <voraistos> ompaul: i tried to use some tool, everybody was talking about it, and it just screwed everything
[11:41] <bbrazil> voraistos: automatix?
[11:41] <FatalFury> merrian: is there a sudo command for coppying or something?
[11:41] <ompaul> voraistos, did it begin with the letter A ?
[11:41] <merriam> FatalFury: sudo cp files/ /var/www/
[11:41] <voraistos> ompaul: yyyyeeeessssssss
[11:41] <Paul159190> its just gone to 'failed to start x server (your graphical interface). it is like not set up correctly. etc'
[11:41] <slide> For some reason Rhythmbox won't import any of my music except ogg, what sound engine does it use so I can install the right codecs?
[11:41] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: press Ctl+F1, and you just said you were at a command line :/
[11:42] <FatalFury> kk
[11:42] <merriam> FatalFury: sudo cp -a files/ /var/www/
[11:42] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: ahh, keep hitting 'no'
[11:42] <amphi> nemik: yes
[11:42] <ompaul> voraistos, okay, let me help you here, reinstall don't use that tool :-/
[11:42] <tobberman> slackern: i use the live cd to try to find the problem with my dual boot.. i have mounted the harddrive.. i want to change the grub boot file.. can i do that through the live cd?
[11:42] <Paul159190> do that, it goes to a black screen
[11:42] <voraistos> ompaul: i knew that
[11:42] <Jowi> slide: gstreamer
[11:42] <Paul159190> then it needs manual restart..
[11:42] <slide> Jowi, ty
[11:42] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: it shouldn't be completely blank.  do you have a prompt?
[11:42] <Paul159190> nope
[11:42] <Paul159190> it just goes black
[11:42] <Paul159190> see its the graphics driver l just need to go thru the list 2 get 2 one, its the only way :S
[11:43] <nemik> amphi, thank you. and is the 'makeactive' option needed in grub to make an XP partition boot?
[11:43] <slackern> tobberman: You could mount the harddrive and edit the file there
[11:43] <RandolphCarter> Paul159190: hmm :/ this doesn't sound much like ubuntu, but go with it.  you will need to find out what card you have first, and pressing Ctl+f1/Ctl+f2 should get you to a terminal
[11:43] <fsancho> hi all
[11:43] <ompaul> voraistos, reinstall come back to us and don't use that thing again
[11:43] <Paul159190> got a console
[11:43] <Paul159190> ok trying
[11:43] <FatalFury> merrian: it didnt work when i typed this sudo cp -a folder i want to copy/ /var/www/
[11:44] <tobberman> i have the harddrive mounted right now.. and i look in the menu.lst file on the harddrive.. but i cant change anything and it says read only..
[11:44] <Paul159190> ok
[11:44] <voraistos> ompaul; the thing is, for some reason, my gnome is all f*cked, i have no task bar or switch button, flash and other things dont really work, but thats cool since i can play et and do a few other things. i am just waiting for the next ubuntu version
[11:44] <Paul159190> it says '/bin/sh: lspci: not found'
[11:44] <amphi> nemik: I wouldn't know about xp
[11:44] <merriam> FatalFury: in this case the directory is owned by root.  That doesn't make it a "root filesystem", or part of one.  You might want to "sudo chown fatalfury.fatalfury /var/www/mydir" to make a directory yours instead of root's.
[11:44] <lecaros> hi
[11:44] <sagarp> how can i find out what process is using my soudn card?
[11:45] <ompaul> voraistos, you could reinstall in 25 minutes update to dapper follow the beta and have a better box
[11:45] <slackern> tobberman: you must mount the partition with read/write option and have permissions to edit the file
[11:45] <AlmtyBob> I switched from a PS2 to USB mouse and now X won't load, how I can reconfigure X so it finds my mouse?
[11:45] <merriam> FatalFury: what did it say when you did that cp?
[11:45] <amphi> nemik: is that equiv to setting the 'bootable' flag?
[11:45] <lecaros> I can't run gdmsetup ( on Breezy -->> dapper beta2 )
[11:45] <nemik> amphi, yea me neither...not a fan of it but have to get it working for this
[11:45] <voraistos> ompaul: but thing is its beta.
[11:45] <slackern> tobberman: have you tried using 'su' to edit the file? 'su nano -w filename'
[11:45] <_jason> AlmtyBob: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:45] <nemik> amphi, i have no clue what it is, i'll check out the forums
[11:45] <amphi> nemik: windows used to need that, in the olden days
[11:45] <FatalFury> merrian: it said cp: cannot stat `folder/': No such file or directory
[11:45] <AlmtyBob> thanks
[11:45] <tobberman> slackern: no i will try that now
[11:45] <ompaul> lecaros, please take that to #ubuntu+1 the dapper channel
[11:45] <merriam> FatalFury: if you use my name correctly, I'll see your reply more quickly.
[11:45] <voraistos> ompaul: i have dual display with 1280*960 and 144*900, i dont wanna screw that, it was difficult to set up
[11:46] <Ohzie> What's the best kernel to be using for a Dothan
[11:46] <Ohzie> ?
[11:46] <lecaros> oops , sorry. Thanks anyway
[11:46] <ompaul> voraistos, and 100:1 odds it would be a better performance machine
[11:46] <MystaMax> merriam what IRC client are u using?
[11:46] <biovore> Ohzie: probably 686
[11:46] <merriam> FatalFury: use tab completion when typing the name of the folder.
[11:46] <merriam> MystaMax: xchat
[11:46] <voraistos> ompaul: what does it mean? (sorry i am foreigner!)
[11:46] <mmx> hello  gow i take  kde   in   ubuntu
[11:46] <mmx> how
[11:47] <_jason> mmx: you want to install kde?
[11:47] <FatalFury> merriam: oops sorry
[11:47] <MystaMax> mmx: download kubuntu
[11:47] <voraistos> with kubuntu
[11:47] <amphi> nemik: just try booting without 'makeactive' perhaps, and try with it if that fails; it won't do any harm either way
[11:47] <Flannel> mmx: install the kubuntu-desktop package
[11:47] <mmx> i want the  default kde  not  the  change
[11:47] <nemik> yea i tried both
[11:47] <ompaul> voraistos, we are all, :-)  -- if you use the beta it would be better working than the broken box you now have :-)
[11:47] <_jason> mmx: what do you mean by ``the change''?
[11:48] <mmx> kubuntu make  changes  in  kde
[11:48] <biovore> mmx: you will have to manual install kdebase and kde* stuff to do that
[11:48] <amphi> nemik: is windows confused about where it is? if so, perhaps you need grubs 'map' option
[11:48] <voraistos> ompaul; when do i download, install the beta ?
[11:48] <voraistos> where*
[11:48] <nemik> amphi, yea that could be the case. i'll look up the map option then
[11:48] <FatalFury> merriam: this happened sudo chown myname.myname /var/www/mydir
[11:48] <FatalFury> chown: cannot access `/var/www/mydir': No such file or directory
[11:48] <amphi> nemik: BTW, info grub is much more revealing than man grub; pinfo is a lynx-like info browser, in case you hate info ;)
[11:48] <ompaul> voraistos, you have two choices you can install the CD from today, and just start there, or you can do breezy and work from there
[11:49] <nemik> cool, thanks!
[11:49] <ompaul> voraistos, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[11:49] <fsancho> i want to compile a 2.6.16 kernel for ubuntu, anyone knows what is the usual kernel patch set that is applied to ubuntu kernels?
[11:49] <nagi> hello to all
[11:49] <merriam> FatalFury: tab completion again.  The directory must exist first.
[11:49] <_jason> acp azureus
[11:49] <FatalFury> merriam: wait i got it
[11:49] <FatalFury> merriam: thanks
[11:49] <biovore> fsancho: there isn't on for 2.6.16 yet
[11:49] <merriam> FatalFury: the quic way to do that is "sudo mkdir [ALT-.] ".
[11:50] <biovore> fsancho: just use your old .config file and make changes from there..
[11:50] <voraistos> ompaul: thx
[11:50] <ompaul> voraistos, thank bbrazil he tried more than I did :-)
[11:50] <iamcitizen> I am trying to install Ubuntu on my new Acer Aspire 3000 Series laptop. It boots from the disc, and loads the first screen, but when I try to install, it loads the kernel, then just sits there, with a blank screen.
[11:50] <voraistos> bbrazil: thx u too ;)
[11:51] <RandolphCarter> iamcitizen: did you set the screen resolution?  some laptops need you to do that
[11:51] <fsancho> iamcitizen, try booting with "noapic nolapic" parameters
[11:51] <mmx> i find it
[11:51] <AlmtyBob> _jason: ran the config and same result, no core pointer
[11:51] <mmx> apt-get install kdm
[11:51] <iamcitizen> i tried that, fs
[11:51] <merriam> FatalFury: meaning hold alt and hit dot after the command -- to get the directory name again
[11:51] <slide> Anyone have any idea why amaroK looks like crap in my gnome? Like i see some kind of scripting code and all of the text seems to be messed up
[11:51] <_jason> AlmtyBob: can you pastebin what your xorg.conf looks like?
[11:51] <iamcitizen> Randolph, how?
[11:51] <RandolphCarter> iamcitizen: it should show up at the bottom of the screen, press F4 or something
[11:52] <iamcitizen> I'll try that, brb.
[11:52] <AlmtyBob> hmm, I gotta theory, how do I check that SSH is installed?
[11:52] <AlmtyBob> I had installe
[11:52] <_jason> AlmtyBob: server or client?
[11:52] <AlmtyBob> server
[11:53] <Jowi> AlmtyBob: type ss<tab twice>
[11:53] <RandolphCarter> AlmtyBob: ps -ef | grep ssh should do the trick
[11:53] <_jason> AlmtyBob: apt-cache policy openssh-server, how would this affect your mouse?
[11:53] <iamcitizen> You talking about 6.06 or 5.10, randolph
[11:53] <AlmtyBob> I had installed Ubuntu on a drive that for some reason wouldn't boot so I unplugged every drive but a fresh drive and installed and it worked
[11:53] <Managu> Does anyone know: How do I reinstall GRUB?
[11:53] <RandolphCarter> iamcitizen: ahh, sorry, 6.06
[11:53] <amphi> AlmtyBob: does /etc/init.d/ssh exist?
[11:53] <iamcitizen> i have 6.06
[11:53] <RandolphCarter> gd gd, you should see it there?
[11:53] <Elmadan> oi
[11:53] <iamcitizen> i'll try booting from there
[11:53] <AlmtyBob> when I shutdown and plugged my other drives back in, it said "installing packages" ont he next boot as if I had never done the initial configuration
[11:53] <RandolphCarter> okay - make sure you press F4 or whatever to set whatever screen resolution your laptop uses
[11:54] <AlmtyBob> and then X crapped out
[11:54] <iamcitizen> k. brb.
[11:54] <RandolphCarter> AlmtyBob: using fglrx?
[11:54] <Hulug_788> hi everyone
[11:54] <voraistos> ompaul: which one should i choose? ok for beta, but i am looking for the most stable stuff possible...
[11:54] <AlmtyBob> no clue
[11:54] <AlmtyBob> and nope, ssh doesn't exist
[11:54] <AlmtyBob> and I know I installed that last night
[11:54] <iamcitizen> OEM or HD
[11:54] <ompaul> voraistos, then choose 5.10 breezy
[11:54] <_jason> AlmtyBob: you are using breezy?
[11:54] <AlmtyBob> so I wonder if my bios is magically booting from my first drive now
[11:54] <AlmtyBob> yes
[11:54] <RandolphCarter> AlmtyBob: you're not using a RAID are you?
[11:55] <AlmtyBob> I'm going to unplug the other drives and see what happens now
[11:55] <AlmtyBob> no
[11:55] <voraistos> ompaul: no, i want unstable, but not too much
[11:55] <slackern> AlmtyBob: openssh-server isn't that the one your looking for?
[11:55] <RandolphCarter> hmm :/ last time I saw this one side of a RAID mirror wasn't updating for like 5 months, then one half failed, so it started booting off the other half
[11:55] <ubuntu_> Hello
[11:55] <iamcitizen> Randolph, you are my hero.
[11:55] <ompaul> voraistos, are you going to track it day by day?
[11:55] <RandolphCarter> the poor user didn't know what was going on, it was like a timewarp :)
[11:55] <ubuntu_> i am on ubuntu now
[11:55] <ubuntu_> looks pretty neat
[11:55] <AlmtyBob> haha
[11:55] <Hulug_788> im want restore a partition with testdisk, i see the files with P but when i do WRITE and restart computer i dont have the files that are showed. Anyone know whats wrong?
[11:55] <voraistos> ompaul: i feel like it ;)
[11:55] <mythica> hey guys quick question
[11:55] <ompaul> voraistos, then get the daily package
[11:55] <ubuntu_> shit someone rang my doorbell i was too afraid to look
[11:56] <RandolphCarter> iamcitizen: np's :) you may need to add noapic and nolapic if it's a on older laptop
[11:56] <voraistos> ompaul: yea, ok i go for that
[11:56] <iamcitizen> it is pretty new
[11:56] <ompaul> ubuntu_, no bad language thanks
[11:56] <ubuntu_> oh
[11:56] <iamcitizen> it is a 3000 series
[11:56] <ubuntu_> sorry
[11:56] <Hulug_788> Anyone used testdisk??
[11:56] <RandolphCarter> iamcitizen: should be okay then - if the desktop seems to lag a bit, try adding that, some laptop mobos are a bit special
[11:56] <AlmtyBob> k, unplugged my other drives, pray for me
[11:56] <Managu> How do I reinstall GRUB?
[11:56] <ompaul> ubuntu_ np going forward :-)
[11:56] <ubuntu_> Btw is it safe to use the live cd for secure online shopping?
[11:57] <Jowi> !grub
[11:57] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:57] <biovore> Managu: can you get the box up and running?
[11:57] <ompaul> voraistos,  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20060506/
[11:57] <iamcitizen> For "Primary Network Interface" which do I choose?
[11:57] <Hulug_788> please help, i need this data...
[11:57] <iamcitizen> WLAN or LAn
[11:57] <iamcitizen> LAN*
[11:57] <ubuntu_> well?
[11:57] <Managu> biovore: nope.  Running on the beta live cd atm.  Will check the links though
[11:57] <AlmtyBob> hahahaha
[11:57] <AlmtyBob> ok wtf
[11:57] <voraistos> ompaul: thats where i was ;)
[11:57] <ompaul> ubuntu_, well if you have the ram and can update the packages I would go for it, if you can't I would not
[11:57] <ubuntu_> this chat goes so fast i get no response
[11:57] <bradley_> hello everyone
[11:57] <AlmtyBob> I KNOW I told my bios to boot from the correct drive
[11:57] <Teleios> hello
[11:57] <louis_> hello
[11:57] <Hulug_788> hello? anyone know testdisk?
[11:57] <RandolphCarter> hey there
[11:57] <AlmtyBob> but for some reason it was booting from the old install I had
[11:58] <ubuntu_> what do you mean ompaul ?
[11:58] <louis_> is it possible to install compiz on dapper with a SiS graphic card?
[11:58] <bimberi> ubuntu_: i'd use it for that
[11:58] <ubuntu_> i didnt know it was required :(
[11:58] <ubuntu_> i already made the purchase shit
[11:58] <bradley_> i have latest version of ubuntu installed.  last night i intalled the automatic updates and restarted because there was a kernel update
[11:58] <ubuntu_> i thought it was safe
[11:58] <ubuntu_> :(
[11:58] <TLE> When I do sudo apt-get upgrade it says that there is a new update-manager but it is left out of the upgrade, (I couldn't find anything about this in the forum) Does anybody here why it does (btw I'm using standard 5.10)
[11:58] <slackern> louis_: I think it only works on ati and nvidia cards, but i haven't really looked for it.
[11:58] <bradley_> today it says there is a problem with my xserver
[11:58] <Hulug_788> ....
[11:58] <MystaMax> creating a new tar from a directory should be typed like: tar
[11:58] <louis_> ok
[11:58] <bradley_> any ideas?
[11:58] <MystaMax> woops
[11:58] <ubuntu_> am i in trouble now?
[11:58] <MystaMax> how do i tar the PWD?
[11:58] <fsancho> anyone has an acer aspire 1650?
[11:59] <fsancho> i can't see battery status
[11:59] <bbrazil> MystaMax: tar -cf dir.tar .
[11:59] <teletubbie> fsancho, make sure you have the kernel module loaded
[11:59] <merriam> MystaMax: better to cd ..
[11:59] <bbrazil> MystaMax: I agree with merriam though
[11:59] <fsancho> teletubbie, no, is a acpi error
[11:59] <firebird619> Could someone help me with some sound problems. They started after installing GnomeRadio and now the sound for anything to do with the TV Tuner (tvtime, gradio, GnomeRadio, etc) is full of static and although I have the sound turned almost all of the way down, it gets very loud when making small volume adjustments. It sounds terrible. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this issue. Thanks.
[11:59] <MystaMax> im not sure i understand your response Merriam
[11:59] <fsancho> i have a lot of error messages in syslog
[12:00] <ompaul> voraistos, heh, and the sad part is you most likely will not have that again :-)
[12:00] <bradley_> I'm getting this error message: 'failed to start the X server (your grapical interface). It is likely not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?'