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slow-motionn812:07
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Infectodpkg-reconfigure network ?12:09
biovoreoO12:09
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Infectowhat should i add before dpkg to reconfigure network in kubutnu, i need to automaticly detect module which one is supprot my eth12:10
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Seantater**FOUND A MEMORY LEAK**  -- artsd!12:15
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Seantaterhow do I kill it?!12:15
eqisowoO12:15
Infectokillall -9 artsd12:15
Seantateroksy -- now how do I fix the leak for next time?12:16
SeantaterThat's why my system cooked this morning..12:17
SeantaterI turned the music on and me system halted after a few minutes12:17
eqisowhmm, is arts what KDE uses?12:18
SeantaterYes --12:18
eqisowmaybe try turning off the sound system in the 'sound and multimedia' section of the control center12:18
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SeantaterIt's But it sucks to have to music.. :(12:18
eqisowand obviously switch amarok and the like to something else if they are set to arts12:18
=== biovore dosn't have problems with arts
Seantaterokay..12:19
eqisowamarok will still work if you use xine or something12:19
Seantaterokay..12:19
steveireKubuntu ftw! Really impressed every day over the past couple of weeks12:19
steveireThat is all12:19
biovorethen again.. I built a compiled my own copy of aramok..12:19
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SeantaterSo what do I do about knotify?12:19
Seantaterokay -- artsd is off..12:20
eqisowgood question12:20
eqisownever had to delve into the sound system much12:20
SeantaterI see-12:20
Seantaterknotify can use other stuff12:20
Seantaterbut I'd rather have a new soundsystem12:21
SeantaterI think kde can use JACK, right?12:21
SeantaterI thought I saw it on another system..12:21
eqisowreally not sure tbh :/12:22
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Seantaterthe "sound system" module isn't being helpful about the matter..12:23
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eqisowhttp://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=aRts+Troubleshooting12:23
eqisowthat may be helpful /shrug12:23
rvfhSorry eqisow, just joining. What's the matter? Why can't you use arts?12:23
eqisowI can use it fine :p12:23
eqisowwe're helping Seantater :)12:24
rvfhSorry.12:24
rvfhWhat seems to be the problem Seantater?12:24
Seantaterrvfh: I had a memory leak12:25
Seantaterrvfh: every time arts played a file, the file was kept in memory12:25
Seantaterrvfh: AFAIK12:25
Seantaterrvfh: all I knwo is that as you play music, it hoga memory12:26
Seantaterrvfh: every time any beeps or clicks  occur, it increases a little12:26
Seantaterrvfh: but never goes down again12:26
Seantaterrvfh: It forced me to rest x the first time, I cought it at 54% the second time12:27
rvfhYes. Maybe you can tell KDE to use ALSA directly?12:27
SeantaterI tried12:27
Seantaterthe "sound system" module doesn't have anything on that -- it only does arts.12:27
Seantaterbrb12:27
rvfhStrange! Mine has loads of choices: autodetect, OSS, ALSA, Enlightened, Network, Threaded or nothing.12:29
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stevehey12:29
eqisowI believe all of those still route through arts though12:29
steveanyone here know about wine+steam/counter-strike?12:29
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eqisowI know I could never get it to run faster than about half of windows speed :/12:29
stevedamn12:30
stevethats what i was afraid of12:30
eqisowopengl games run nearly full speed though12:30
steve...12:30
steveit IS opengl12:30
eqisowno12:30
steveuh12:30
steveyeah12:30
steveits right there in the video render chooser12:30
rvfheqisow: what makes you think that?12:30
steveyou can use opengl or direct 3d12:30
rvfhI am still about arts BTW12:30
eqisowwait, are you talking about the original CS?12:30
steve1.612:31
eqisowah, yeah. nm me then12:31
stevesource= for losers12:31
stevei just hate windows yee?12:31
eqisowright, that's definitely how to go about eliciting help12:31
steveand the only thing i can't do on my linux box is cs12:31
stevei was just wondering if anyone knew how to make this damn thing work12:31
eqisowI think that, rvfh, becuase arts isn't actually an option there12:32
steveim getting huge hangups even when i give it top processor priority and a heap size of like 512mb12:32
rvfhsteveire: does it use a lot of CPU?12:32
eqisoware you using standard wine or cedega?12:32
eqisowand is your hardware acceleration working properly?12:32
rvfhWhat's the ire where I typed? Weird. I meant Steve anyhow.12:33
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rvfhOk guys, 19:30 here, time to get another life! Ciao bambini.12:33
eqisowlol, later rvfh12:34
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Seantatersorry I was gone so long12:52
SeantaterI read -- and tried -- they are artsd too12:52
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Kryspyquestion: does kubuntu auto detect NTFS drives or do I gots to mount 'em12:53
KryspySATA as well btw12:53
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Infectoi`v got 3 butons in my laptop first is mute sound and next is volume up and volume down12:54
Infectoin ubunto works that perfectly12:54
Infectobut in kubuntu dont12:55
Infectopleas tell me why12:56
Infecto:}12:56
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LeeJunFanInfecto: gnome's mixer applet is probably aware of acpi events whereas kmix isn't.01:04
eqisowKryspy, I believe that Dapper will01:05
eqisowI change the mount point anyway, so I don't really recall :/01:05
Infectohmmm01:06
InfectoLeeJunFan: is somethong like acme in kde ?01:06
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LeeJunFanInfecto: not familiar with that. I don't know of anything in kde that will work with those buttons.01:07
LeeJunFanBut then I've never really looked either.01:07
Infectook thx wery much01:07
Kryspyhave fun01:08
Kryspythanx01:08
Kryspyanyone know if an apple airport express is useable as is or do I have tojump through a 1000,000 hoops to get it to work01:09
KryspyI use it to stream music to my stereo wireless01:09
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Kryspyanyone anyone bueller bueller01:22
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Kryspyinstalling now in vmware so i guess I'll find out :)01:23
rUiSuhey, i messed something really good01:23
eqisownsorry, never owned a piece of apple hardware, heh01:23
Kryspysee what you are missing01:23
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rUiSuin booting time, after checking battery state its stated [ ok ] , but then nothing01:23
eqisowhttp://www.jroller.com/page/nwinkler?entry=amarok_and_the_airport_express01:24
eqisowtry that Kryspy01:24
eqisowand yeah, I know what I'm missing and I like my reasonably priced hardware ;)01:24
rUiSuwhats the next script after battery checking?01:25
rUiSuthat apci-thig01:26
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rUiSume?01:27
rUiSuoh, wrong forum :P01:28
Red3yeis anyone running wireless01:30
Red3yeon kubutnoo?01:30
rUiSuyes01:30
rUiSuimam01:30
rUiSudo you need help?01:31
rUiSui am, sry :P01:31
Red3yeye01:31
Red3yes01:31
Red3yewell maybe01:31
Red3yeim like this close01:31
rUiSuok, whats the problem01:31
Red3yeto installing either kubunto01:31
Red3yeor gentoo01:31
rUiSummm01:32
Red3yebut i need wireless support01:32
Red3yelike right of the bad01:32
rUiSuare you new to linux?01:32
Red3yebat01:32
Red3yei've run slack and some live cds b401:32
eqisowubuntu/kubuntu definitely have the best out of the box wireless support I've seen01:32
rUiSumhm me too, but i tell you01:32
Red3yeyeah01:32
rUiSugentoo is the least friendly installation distro01:32
Red3yei know01:32
eqisowwhat wireless card are you running?01:32
Red3yebut its like rock solid once u get it working right01:32
Red3yeinternal on my lappy01:32
Red3yebroadcom01:32
Red3yechipset01:32
rUiSui miself couldnt get it ruinning01:33
Red3yeo01:33
eqisowouch..01:33
rUiSuyup01:33
rUiSuimean01:33
eqisowbroadcom cards a re a pita01:33
rUiSuwhen compilyng, i went nuts by how much time i needied01:33
Red3yeo01:33
eqisowin any distro really01:33
eqisowyou could get a PCMCIA card... or there is a how-to here:01:34
eqisowhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2568301:34
Red3yebut i have a good internal one01:34
Red3yeon my laptop01:34
rUiSubut in gentoo its like, i began at 7 o clock night, ended 3 am, and couldnt understand the inslation01:34
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Red3yeo01:34
Red3yesucks01:34
PherRed3ye: what type of laptop you got?01:34
Red3yebut its solid isnt it01:34
Red3yegateway01:34
rUiSuok01:34
eqisowyeah, but the only way to get broadcom cards working is with ndiswrapper, which is a pretty hackish solution01:34
Red3yeo01:35
Red3yedamn01:35
Pherand even then no garuntee to work :)01:35
Red3yei'll just screw with it?01:35
Phermy laptop with a Broadcomm won't work under linux01:35
Red3yeo01:36
Red3yedo any of you play css01:36
eqisowI do01:36
rUiSuyeah, ""and this wrapper"" is good thhoug, never failed me01:36
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Red3yeo01:37
Red3yeis it easy01:37
rUiSuyeah01:37
Red3yeto get working on linux01:37
eqisowwith cedega it's pretty simple, I never had anything with CS:S in wine01:37
rUiSumhm, but i neded to install an optional packages dhcp3, the dhclient to start automatic dhcp working01:37
rUiSuso01:38
eqisowerr, never had any luck rather01:38
rUiSuwhat am i missing in the booting?01:38
rUiSuit never had failed01:38
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Red3yecedega costs money01:38
eqisowunfortunately so01:39
Red3yewasnt it free b401:39
eqisownope01:39
eqisowCedega/WineX has always been commercial01:39
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Red3yeo01:40
Red3yedo they put out releases often01:41
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trymsomeone say my nick I want to check if something is working01:41
eqisowit's kind of spotty01:41
eqisowtrym01:41
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trymperfect01:42
trymit worked :)01:42
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rUiSuok, imgona talk to ubuntu-boot01:42
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rUiSuno response..01:47
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Red3ye2wjats the latest01:48
Red3ye2verison of cedega01:48
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eqisow5.1.301:49
rUiSuwho uses wine?01:50
eqisowbut it seems, to me at least, that CS:S runs slightly better in 4.3.301:50
eqisowI do01:50
rUiSuwhy is it so slow for winecfg?01:50
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eqisowwhat do you mean?01:50
rUiSuimean,. when i start winecfg it stays like doing nothing for 2 minuts01:51
rUiSu2 frustrating minutes01:51
eqisowI have no idea :(01:51
rUiSuhm01:51
eqisowpops right up for me01:51
eqisowno errors or text in konsole?01:51
rUiSui have bad luck for distros01:51
rUiSunope01:51
eqisowvery odd01:51
rUiSumhm01:51
rUiSumhm, there is always something wrong with my sistems01:53
eqisowyou could try purging and reinstalling wine, but I dunno if that would help01:53
eqisowoooh01:53
eqisowwhat repo are you using for wine?01:53
rUiSurepo?01:53
eqisowrepository, sorry01:54
rUiSu@.@01:54
rUiSuum01:54
rUiSuthe source01:54
eqisowyou compiled it?01:54
rUiSumhm01:54
eqisowdownloaded the source from winehq?01:54
rUiSuyup01:54
eqisowhmm01:55
rUiSueven downloading from the winehq.org deb ones, its the same thing01:55
eqisowjust for kicks, you could try the instructions here:01:57
eqisowhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource01:57
rUiSuyeah, ther are no errors biuildingit01:57
eqisowyou could skip the patches, of course, unless you want to play world of warcraft01:57
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eqisowI would comment out the binary line, if you've added it. It'll be a pain when you run updates if you don't01:59
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rUiSuwow, i didnt knew there where patches02:01
rUiSubrb02:01
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dark_lighthow can i configure kde to do not save my session?02:02
dark_lighton k menu exists a 'new session' but i don't want a new session, just 'when i shut down do not save my current apps'02:03
_s3B4s_you can put some permissions on /home/USERNAME/.kde/autorun02:06
_s3B4s_:D02:06
_s3B4s_sorry /home/USERNAME/.kde/Autorun02:07
_s3B4s_its like that :D02:07
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dark_lightbut, but, but.. ubuntu isn't about being user-friendly?02:09
dark_lightif i can't do it with the mouse, it's a bug on (k)ubuntu02:09
dark_light(editing /home/USERNAME/.kde/Autorun)02:10
eqisowshrug, maybe so; but I'd hardly call it a show stopper02:10
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dark_lightwhat i am supposed to write on /home/USERNAME/.kde/Autorun ? i should only edit the permissions? o.o02:10
dark_lighteqisow, (what is shrug?)02:10
dark_lightmany users do not open the same apps when shut down. there should be a 'save my session' (initially checked) on logout dialog o.o02:12
_s3B4s_mmm02:13
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_s3B4s_yes but, i give you the easy way :D02:13
_s3B4s_jeje02:13
_s3B4s_hehe02:13
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EricLCan someone give me an apt src for breezy?02:15
_s3B4s_mmm, a list??02:15
eqisowdark_light02:16
LeeJunFanI'm trying to change the label on a vfat and an ext3 filesystem, apparenlty mkfs will do it, but I don't want to format the filesystems to do so. Any ideas?02:16
dark_lightwww.ubuntuguide.org has one i think02:16
dark_lighteqisow, yes?02:16
eqisowgo to control center, then KDE components, then Session Manager02:16
eqisowif you want a GUI way to do it02:16
EricLI am trying to get ubuntu to install on a Xen vm and I need an Ubuntu apt src to pass to debootstrap.02:17
dark_light_s3B4s_, well the file /home/myuser/.kde/Autorun don't exists, what i am supposed to do? create it with 000 perms?02:17
eqisowchange <On Login> to Start with an empty session02:17
dark_lighteqisow, thanks:)02:17
eqisowor manually saved session, if you prefer02:17
eqisownp02:17
_s3B4s_:P02:18
dark_lighteqisow, there are only kde resources and services manager (but i opened system settings instead of control center - i can't find any control center)02:19
Infectohmmm02:19
dark_lightLeeJunFan, maybe with fdisk02:20
eqisowahh, well yeah that's a bit of a prob with kubuntu. control center is the kde tool and system settings is the ubuntu tool02:20
Infectois there any know problem with instaling mplayer on 6.06 ?02:20
eqisowyou cxan get to the control center by typing kcontrol in a term02:20
Infecto   mplayer-586: Wymaga: libjack0.80.0-0 (>= 0.99.0)02:20
eqisowor you can add it to the K menu through the Kicker config options02:21
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_s3B4s_mmm, somebody have problems with the port 80 using apache?02:21
dark_lighteqisow, ok:)02:22
dark_light_s3B4s_, when i was using a isp that blocks the port 80, yes02:22
_s3B4s_shiet02:23
eqisowI would like to take this oppertunity to mention that I <3 Time Warner02:24
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ruisuhi02:26
ohaydoes somenone know how can one enforce the use of a specific resolution in X ?02:26
ruisuey, yeah, the x.org system is not working02:27
ruisui was able to boot correctly, but no x02:27
ruisuno grafics02:27
ruisu:(02:27
eqisowohay, you could remove all resolutions except for the desires in xorg.conf02:27
ruisuum, what>02:27
ruisu??? >.>02:27
ruisuit said to remove the x-windows-system-core02:28
ruisuwitch i believe to be a bad moove02:29
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ruisuso, im going to mount the cd and reinstall that02:30
ruisuhow should i mount it?02:30
ruisumount /dev/hdd -t isowhat? /media/cdrom0/02:31
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eqisowmeh, got disconected. did you get a response ruisu?02:32
ruisunope02:32
ruisuim gomint to try this:02:32
eqisowok, what card are you using? is this a fresh install? if not, did you do anything to cause this?02:32
ruisumount /dev/hdd -t iso9660 /media/cdrom002:33
coreyanyone know if  there is a command to show bandwidth?02:33
ruisummm, i dont know why it happened02:33
ruisuthe xorg worked fine02:33
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eqisowvideo card?02:34
ruisuati02:34
ruisu256mb02:34
_s3B4s_congratulations man02:34
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LorenzodDoes anybody know if it's possible to get amaroK to automatically organize files when they get imported?02:35
_s3B4s_i have a nVidia 32 mb :D02:35
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_s3B4s_haha02:35
geno_Where can I submit a very annoyinh translation bug?02:35
ruisui had that one 202:35
eqisowok, ruiso. try doing 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' from the command line. Choose vesa for your video driver02:35
eqisowsee if that works for you02:36
ruisuok02:36
geno_In KDE intertionalisation02:36
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eqisowLoren, could you be more specific? amaroK organizes everything fine for me02:36
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eqisowohhh02:37
ruisuok, lok, i got my mother board chipset NVidia, and my 3d card is ATI02:37
eqisowI misunderstood, sorry Loren02:37
Lorenzodeqisow: I add my songs into ~/Music, then I select "organize" to get the files placed in subfolders.02:37
Lorenzodokay, np02:37
eqisowright, I gotcha now02:37
ruisuso, as its explained now, i believe ill choose ati02:38
ruisucuz its wantint the video cards make02:38
LorenzodSo can it be done. It's a bit painful to always manually organize ;-)02:38
geno_In the french translation of KDE programs, a lot of the common menus are in english(ARG!), do I submit the bug to Launchpad?02:38
eqisowI'm afraid I dunno Loren. I keep my MP3 jumbled in one folder :/02:38
geno_In dapper Drake02:39
ruisuok, can someone help me?how much is 256mb in kb?02:39
Lorenzodeqisow: I used to do that as well, but now I'm trying to organize them a bit more.02:39
eqisowright ruiso, but cvesa also works. I was makign sure the ati drivers werne't broken since they tend to suck02:39
eqisowvesa*02:39
ruisuhmm02:39
eqisowbecause you can always change to ati later :p02:40
LorenzodAnd since amarok 1.4 helps with this, I thought I'd give it a try..02:40
ruisuno, it cant be, i was already using that. oh when i tried to startx, it said the fonts where misconfigured or where missing02:40
eqisow256MB is 262144 KB02:40
ruisuok thanks02:40
eqisowbut the autodetect works fine really02:40
ruisuwell, ok02:40
eqisowor it always has for me at any rate02:41
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eqisowhey loren, congrats. I suppose you found something AmaroK doesn't do ;)02:42
eqisowI've never been able to manage that02:42
Lorenzodeqisow: well, it actually hasn't been able to make me coffee either :-D02:43
eqisowlol02:43
LorenzodBut then again, I suppose it's possible to write scripts for both of those02:43
Lorenzod;-)02:43
ruisuok, im done ith dpkg, should i starrt running startx?02:44
eqisowyeah, give it a try ruisu02:44
ruisuok02:44
ruisubrb02:44
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ohaydoes someone know why there are no Modeline entries in Kubuntu's xorg.conf ?02:48
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ruisuwooot02:49
eqisowhow'd it go ruiso?02:49
ruisuthanks alot!!02:49
ruisuumm02:49
ruisui selected the ati drivers02:49
ruisuand the grafix where smudged02:49
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ruisuthe02:49
ruisuthen02:49
ruisui selected the frlgx and its ok02:49
eqisowawesome02:50
ruisufrlgx is a thing used by the card02:50
eqisowglad it's workin for ya02:50
ruisuso its ok02:50
ruisuyeah thanks :D02:50
eqisownp02:50
ruisudoumo arigatou gozaimasu :D:D:D02:50
ikochanghello all.  anyone with iptables knowledge here?02:50
ruisu(very much thanks :D:D:D)02:50
ruisum nop02:50
ruisuso, seeya02:50
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KwipperI am a windows user and I just got kubuntu installed. I have never used anything outside of windows before and of course and I have a few questions.02:51
eqisowfire away bud02:51
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Kwipper1.) I found the area to switch the refresh rate, but no matter what resolution I choose, I can't change the refresh rate beyond 60 Hz.02:52
KwipperHow do I fix this?02:52
eqisowthe easiest way, would be to open up konsole (should be in your K menu) and type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:52
eqisowwhen you get to the monitor portion you should can choose 'simple' and just tell it your monitor size02:53
rtg_kwipper: Make sure your monitor is properly selected, and it supports refresh > 6002:53
KwipperI just got a message saying "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root"02:53
KwipperWhat is that?02:53
eqisowah, yeah02:54
eqisowI'm sorry02:54
eqisowyou need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:54
rtg_heh, heh,  The first thing you learn about Linux is there's at least three ways to do anything!02:54
eqisowand type your user password02:54
eqisowsudo stands for super user do, and gives you admin access to the system02:54
KwipperOkay. I am at a new screen now02:55
KwipperIt's asking to autodetect my hardware02:55
KwipperI hope this works with dell monitors02:55
eqisowshouldn't be a prob02:55
KwipperHow do I find my video card's bus identifier?02:56
roniezhm..02:56
eqisowleave it blank02:56
eqisowit will auto detect02:56
eqisowor at whatever it defaulted as02:56
eqisowI prob told you the least friendly was to do it, but it was the first thing I thought of, heh02:57
eqisowin fact, forget it, close that (very sorry)02:57
eqisowjust go to the K menu and find the control center02:57
eqisowpress the Administrator button at the bottom and enter your password02:58
eqisowthen go to the hardware tab02:58
eqisowhit the configure button by monitor #102:58
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canllaithHeya, if I wanted to remove kubuntu-desktop from an ubuntu system is there a single metapackage I can use to get rid of it all at once?02:58
eqisowand select your monitor there. if it's a dell you should be able to find it02:58
eqisowif not, pull down the generic list and select your monitors max res and refresh02:59
eqisowcanllaith, not that I'm aware of. then again, there's a lot I'm not aware of ;)02:59
eqisowKwipper, still with me?03:00
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canllaithI have KDE 3.5 compiled in /opt (I prefer to do it myself) so I thought I'd ditch the kubuntu packages :)03:00
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canllaithaha, removing kdelibs makes it pull all the rest out03:02
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eqisowlol, good job03:02
fakepatriotuuuhhh...im new and i need some help03:03
eqisowwhatcha need fake?03:03
fakepatrioti need help installing yakuake...03:03
eqisowok... what's the problem?03:03
fakepatriotwell first i downloaded the files03:04
fakepatriotthen i read one of them03:04
fakepatriottold me to configure it or something like that03:04
fakepatriotanyway03:04
fakepatrioti did that03:04
fakepatriotand then at the end it tells me there no acceptable C compiler found03:05
fakepatrioti dont know what the hell that means but im really confused03:05
canllaith apt-get build-dep kdelibs03:05
canllaithperhaps03:05
eqisowerr03:05
fakepatriotok ill try that03:05
canllaithSince yakuake will also need devel libraries to build kde apps03:05
canllaith(It's a konsole hack, isn't it?)03:05
canllaithUnless I'm mistaking what it is03:05
eqisowis there any particular reason you're compiling yakuake from source?03:05
eqisowyeah, it's a pull down console03:06
eqisow(F12)03:06
canllaithI'm sure there would be a package for that03:06
fakepatriotsee the thing about that is i have no idea what your talking about...03:06
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canllaithfakepatriot: why have you downloaded it from kde-apps.org or wherever instead of using the packaging system to install it?03:06
canllaithLike, adept or synaptic or whatever03:06
eqisowtry running apt-get install yakuake in konsole :)03:06
fakepatriotok about the "apt-get" thing03:07
fakepatriotmy brother was trying to help me out the other day03:07
fakepatriothe wanted me to get some program03:07
fakepatriotso that he could fix my problems from his computer03:07
fakepatrioti dont know what its called03:07
fakepatriotanyway03:08
eqisowyour first source for programs should be apt-get or adept, and most everything you need will be there :)03:08
fakepatrioti ended up enabling stuff in adept03:08
fakepatriotsounds simple enough03:08
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fakepatrioti followed the instructions03:08
fakepatriotand now my shit doesnt work anymore03:08
fakepatriotthat was about 2 days ago03:09
fakepatriotand i havent talked to my brother since03:09
fakepatriothes not off work otherwise id be asking him03:09
fakepatriotbut the other day he told me to ask around in the IRC channels...03:09
eqisowI see I see03:09
eqisowwell something more specific than 'my shit don't work' would really be helpful :)03:10
fakepatriothehehe03:10
fakepatriotwell i do the whoel apt-get thing03:10
eqisowright03:10
fakepatriotand at the end i get a bunch of errors03:10
fakepatriotuuuh..03:10
fakepatriothere let me try to pull them up real quick...03:10
fakepatriotE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)03:12
fakepatriotE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?03:12
fakepatriotfakepatriot@Sennheiser:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep kdelibs03:12
fakepatriotReading package lists... Done03:12
fakepatriotBuilding dependency tree... Done03:12
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restrictedsudo Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restrictedsudo_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:12
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/cp Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_cp_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:12
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy//etc/apt/sources.list Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy__etc_apt_sources.list_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:12
eqisowdo you have adept open?03:12
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/Desktop/sources Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_Desktop_sources_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:12
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:12
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:13
fakepatriotW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems03:13
fakepatriotE: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list03:13
fakepatriotthat happens03:13
fakepatriotno03:13
eqisowok, run sudo apt-get -f install03:13
fakepatriotok03:13
eqisowthis should clean up any dependency issues that exist03:13
fakepatriotReading package lists... Done03:14
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fakepatriotBuilding dependency tree... Done03:14
fakepatriot0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 67 not upgraded.03:14
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restrictedsudo Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restrictedsudo_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:14
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/cp Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_cp_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:14
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy//etc/apt/sources.list Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy__etc_apt_sources.list_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:14
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fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/Desktop/sources Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_Desktop_sources_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:14
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:14
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:14
fakepatriotW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems03:14
fakepatriotthat happenned03:14
eqisowwhoom ok chill03:14
Snake__!amarok03:14
ubotuhmm... amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/03:14
Snake__grr03:14
eqisowW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems03:14
eqisowtry following that advice ;)03:14
fakepatriotthat doesnt work03:15
canllaithput 'sudo' first03:15
eqisowaye, what can said03:15
fakepatrioti am not that dumb03:15
eqisowlol, no offense meant. you said you were new :p03:15
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canllaithDude, if you want some help we're gonna suggest stuff. Sort of that's how it works03:15
fakepatriothehe03:15
fakepatriotnone taken03:15
fakepatriotwell suggest stuff03:15
fakepatriotand ill tell you if i tried it or not03:16
canllaithWe are, 'I tried that' is a better answer than 'I'm not dumb' :P03:16
canllaithHow doesn't it work? Do you get the permission denied error or the file not found error?03:16
eqisowok, so is everything working ok except the updater?03:16
canllaith(or another one entirely?)03:16
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fakepatriotuuhhh...this happens when i run apt-get update03:17
fakepatriotFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  restrictedsudo/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)03:17
fakepatriotReading package lists... Done03:17
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restrictedsudo Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restrictedsudo_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:17
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/cp Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_cp_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:17
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy//etc/apt/sources.list Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy__etc_apt_sources.list_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:17
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/Desktop/sources Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_Desktop_sources_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:17
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:17
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:18
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restrictedsudo Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restrictedsudo_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:18
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/cp Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_cp_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:18
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy//etc/apt/sources.list Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy__etc_apt_sources.list_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:18
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/Desktop/sources Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_Desktop_sources_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:18
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:18
fakepatriotW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:18
fakepatriotW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems03:18
fakepatriotE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.03:18
canllaithwow ok, maybe you should use a pastebin :)03:18
eqisowdude, all those errors are the same. no need for all of that ;)03:18
fakepatriotyeah i was doing that with my bro03:18
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canllaithPerhaps he could use the sources.list generator to ix that up, eqisow ?03:19
canllaiths/ix/fix/03:19
naliothfakepatriot: um, did the /topic get by you?03:19
naliothfakepatriot: the part about | Please don't paste into the channel, use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com03:20
eqisowfake, are you running dapper or breezy?03:20
fakepatriotbreezy03:20
fakepatriotoh we were doing that sources.list thing too...03:21
gmbazillionOkay03:21
gmbazillionI have the refresh rate problem fixed now03:21
gmbazillionNow lets get some other things working03:21
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eqisowhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:21
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gmbazillion2.) I have an soundblaster audigy 4. How do I get it to produce sound.03:21
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eqisowtry using that fake, and past whatever it gives you into your /etc/apt/sources.list file03:21
eqisowand then run an update from adept03:22
fakepatriotok cool ill tell you if it works03:22
BobLoblawdapper doesn't want to resize my ntfs partition to save its life, and its also the most ambiguous fricken wizard ever. what are my options now?03:23
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eqisowwhat are you using to try and resize it Bob?03:24
BobLoblawjust the installer03:24
eqisowgmb, I'm not sure bud. I'm trying to see what I can find out03:24
billytwowillywhat is a good kde frontend for sane?03:24
BobLoblawlike i burned flight 6 of dapper i believe03:24
BobLoblawthen i want it to massage my winxp partition to a lower size03:24
eqisowumm, eithe rpartition magic in windows, or you could try qtparted in a linux live CD like Knoppix03:25
billytwowillykooka.. oh right..03:25
BobLoblawyeah, i guess ill try qtparted unless pm doesnt have some sort of demo03:25
BobLoblawbut yeah, in the wizard, "New Partition Size" in the Guided install doesnt really inform the user whether the size is going to be of the original partition (usually windows) or the to be created partition (linux)03:27
fakepatriotok i did what you said, now what?03:28
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rtg_I got a question on updates:03:37
BladesonfireHi, does anyone know how to put the Kubuntu installer on a USB flash drive?03:38
rtg_If I run update-manager on an ubuntu 5.10 system, will it give me the option to update to kubuntu 6.06?03:38
canllaithIf you run update-manager -d it will03:39
canllaithfrom the command line03:39
Bladesonfirertg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades03:39
rtg_thanks.  I'll give it a try on my laptop, which has been running breezy for 6 months now...03:40
rtg_I read that web page, but it didn't mention anything about having a choice of 'flavor' of the new release.03:41
rtg_The developers must be woring overtime now.  I installed beta2, which was releassed april 28, and adept updateer is telling me there are 195 packages to upgrade today!03:42
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BladesonfireI like this distro plenty03:43
rtg_<Bladesonfire: I think I saw something on the wiki about a netinstall from a USB flash drive.  I don't think it's an official option, but somebody put it together...03:44
billytwowillyhi, with some kde apps (like konqueror) and with azureus I can't click on some stuff in dapper. ie. when azureus pops up an error I mouse over the "hide" button, which shows it is selected, but it won't click. How do I fix this?03:46
canllaithhttp://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html03:46
billytwowillyalso, where can I get extra applets for kde? kde.com is down...03:46
canllaithI think that's the instructions for putting the installer onto the key...03:46
canllaithAh, ignore me - it's not.03:46
CheeseBurgerManbillytwowilly: 'sudo apt-get install kicker-applets' and kde-apps.org03:46
billytwowillythanks.03:47
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billytwowillyany idea on the problems with stuff not clicking? it happens in konqueror too with the google search thing. I can type stuff in the search box but It won't recognize I hit enter..03:47
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rtg_I haven't encountered that one.  Did you search the buglist? has it been posted yet?03:48
CheeseBurgerManbillytwowilly: No, I don't use dapper, not sure whats wrong.03:49
billytwowillyit's minor, but irritating... I hope it gets fixed by release..03:49
Lorenzodbillytwowilly: I've also noticed that. Have you checked the changelog for KDE 3.5.3?03:52
LorenzodI see that another of my irritations will be fixed for 3.5.3 at least: kontact (kmail) losing folder settings.03:53
billytwowillyLorenzod: nope. I only noticed it with azureus, so figured it was an azureus bug, but then konqueror did it too. just figured out it was kubuntu related now;)03:53
rtg_I searched launchpad for 'buttons not clickable' and found 6 items.  you shouls review them and post your comments, or post a fresh one if none of those really describe your situation.03:53
LorenzodYeah, it's worth a report if none exists.03:55
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rtg_Gotta restart X to try some new settings...03:56
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billytwowillyis there a way to get kwallet to ask for my password when I log in?03:56
billytwowillyor better yet, just open the wallet when I log in?03:56
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=== winXperts wonders out loud if you guys have a preferred and "FAST" web browser
winXpertsspecs on the machine piii 700mhz 256 mb's of ram03:58
BladesonfireOpera03:58
CheeseBurgerManKonqueror03:59
winXpertsright now testing konq, opera, galeon, and firefox03:59
winXpertsso far opera seems faster03:59
BladesonfireAnd uses less RAM than Firefox04:00
CheeseBurgerManYes,  it does.04:00
CheeseBurgerManI find it faster, but tend to use konqueror04:01
CheeseBurgerManIf you use Opera, the beta of version 9 is ver nice.04:01
CheeseBurgerManvery*04:01
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BladesonfireYeah, I'm kinda biased04:01
BladesonfireI've been using Opera since 6.x04:01
winXperts:)04:01
BladesonfireAnd since I use to always switch between Windows/Linux, it was nice having consistency04:02
CheeseBurgerManI used it since 8.0 ;)04:02
CheeseBurgerManBut konqueror ousted it. :P04:02
winXpertshave 9 beta on this lappy the older one has the 8 release04:02
winXpertsthank guys will keep testing04:04
BobLoblawopera is nice04:05
BobLoblawhowever a lot of the defaults are lame04:05
BobLoblawand a lot of options i end up turning off04:05
BobLoblawlike thumbnailing every effing page04:06
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BladesonfireThumbnailing?04:08
BladesonfireOh, when you mouseover a tab?04:08
Traehttp://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6336/uglywindow0wh.png04:09
TraeOk, put on your thick skin here KDE people04:09
Trae;)04:09
TraeI actually should probably take this to #kde-devel04:09
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BladesonfireWell, I still like Konq > Naut ;)04:13
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BobLoblawNaut doesnt rate04:14
BobLoblaw:D04:14
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BobLoblawTrae: yeah, kde-devel would probably want to hear it, also, i would imagine this stuff is gone in KDE4 if not some other theme04:15
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BobLoblawTrae: but its "inconsistent" :)04:18
Traetalking to those guys now04:19
Traethanks04:19
BobLoblawTrae: also, consistency is sometimes bad. like the KDE icons in that scrshot you made, they're all the same damn colour. its very hard to differentiate between them04:20
BobLoblawcontrast this with the defaults for FF04:21
BobLoblaw#kde-artists have improved this though04:21
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TraeBobLoblaw, I'm just getitng things setup here in KDE04:22
TraeBobLoblaw, trying to switch from GNOEM04:22
Traegnome even04:22
BobLoblawTrae: yeah, i understand, welcome to the party. i just like to argue :D04:23
Traeheheh04:23
BobLoblawim also a newb in many ways04:23
Traewell, at least I tried to lay out my issues in a screenshot to educate04:24
Traeinstead of just going...04:24
TraeKDE sucks04:24
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Traeheh04:24
BobLoblawyeah exactly04:24
Snake__Any dapper runners in here?04:24
Traewhich a lot of uninformed people might do04:24
BobLoblawtoo many people do that04:24
TraeSnake__, nod04:24
Snake__Trae: can you find flashplugin-nonfree in the repos?04:24
TraeBobLoblaw, those same people don't realize that in that vain(vein?) gnome sucks too.04:24
TraeSnake__, yah04:24
TraeSnake__, enable universe and multiverse04:24
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Snake__!sources04:24
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:24
Traeubotu, tell Snake__ about flash04:25
Trae:)04:25
Snake__Trae: I know about flash, hence where I got the package name ;)04:25
TraeSnake__, hehehe, sorry04:25
TraeSnake__, just wanted to poke ubotu04:25
Snake__!botsnack04:25
ubotu:)04:25
BobLoblawTrae: yeah, Gnome LOOKS great, but form follows function :)04:26
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Traeheh04:27
Trae:/04:27
Trae24 hours and I'm already missing gnome.04:27
Trae:(04:27
Traeyou can lead a horse to water....04:27
Traeheh04:27
Traewhat's so funny is...04:27
TraeI ran KDE for like 3 years04:27
Traefrom 99-2002 or so04:27
Snake__ah ha04:27
Traeswitched to gnome, and I've been trying to go back to KDE but can't04:28
TraeI KNOW kde is superior in terms of function04:28
LorenzodTrae: I've been running Gnome for the last two years.04:28
Snake__Gnome is pretty good04:28
TraeI KNOW it!04:28
Traethings like...04:28
Traeright click maximize button04:28
Traein kwin04:28
Traejust rox04:28
Snake__Trae: I feel programs are built better in gnome personally04:28
TraeSnake__, nod04:28
LorenzodWell, Gnome and Xfce..04:28
rtg_I'm just the opposite.  Been running KDE for 5+ years04:28
Traertg_, and keep trying to switch to gnome?04:28
Traehehe04:28
Snake__I love KDE to death, but GTK seems to have much more stable aps04:28
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rtg_every year or so, I try out a gnome-based distro04:29
Traertg_, yup04:29
rtg_I usually last a few hours before I'm disgusted.04:29
Traertg_, how old are you?04:29
rtg_5504:29
Traertg_, ahhaha, that's the problem.04:29
Snake__Hehe04:29
Traertg_, I'm 3704:29
Traertg_, we are too old and set in our ways04:29
LorenzodI personally like both Gnome and KDE04:29
Snake__I'm 16...04:29
Snake__:)04:29
rtg_Gnome looks like it was designed by l33t gamers...04:29
Traertg_, *chuckle*04:29
LorenzodBut their are some KDE apps that are much more mature than Gnome counterparts.04:30
TraeLorenzod, true04:30
TraeLorenzod, computers suck.04:30
Trae:)04:30
LorenzodAnd it happens that I need those apps.04:30
Lorenzodlol04:30
rtg_I hear both projects are trying to support the other's applications...04:30
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BobLoblawtoo many things in gnome make me think they are completely high04:30
Lorenzodrtg_: yes, but I've heard those things before.04:31
rtg_My son is 22, and I gave him an ubuntu system.04:31
Snake__Kate is godly.04:31
Snake__Just to sum it up.04:31
Pherone thing I like about kde is they package libraries together, so artwork is really in one thing, gnome has 30 different dependences04:31
rtg_he got mad at me when he saw my kubuntu system a few weeks later....04:31
LorenzodKate stinks, but I wish it didn't.04:31
BobLoblawlike, i hate the letter K. I think little leprechaun feet are hilarious. but KDE is still wicked in so many ways.04:31
LorenzodI'm trying to like kate.04:31
Snake__Lorenzod: how could you say that??04:31
rtg_Why didn't you give me the better one!!!04:31
Snake__Lorenzod: that is the best prog ive ever programmed in.04:32
LorenzodHm.. It does not compare to Vim.04:32
LorenzodBut I wish it would.04:32
Snake__I dont like vim for 1 reason: I cant highlight.04:32
LorenzodI want a *modern* editor. I've been using Vim since back in my Amiga days.04:32
rtg_I got a serious question....04:32
Snake__I cant hightlight and backspace04:32
Snake__and that makes me made04:32
Snake__mad*04:32
LorenzodVim highlights perfectly.04:32
rtg_Just ttried to update kubuntu 5.10 to 6.0604:33
LorenzodMaybe you need to edit your .vimrc04:33
Trae"Torn between two lovers, feeling like a fool, loving you both, is breaking all the rules..."  rtg_04:33
Snake__I've never messed with the .vimrc04:33
Traertg_, remember that song? heh04:33
rtg_failes at the first step:  gksudo command not found...04:33
Traeok04:34
Traelet me play with some different themes04:34
Traemaybe that's the problem04:34
LorenzodTrae: bah, stop being sentimental. It's possible to love to at the same time ;-)04:34
TraeLorenzod, *chuckle*04:35
Lorenzod**two, i mean04:35
LorenzodI'm losing literacy at an alarming rate these days..04:35
Snake__I wish launchcast worked in kubuntu :(04:35
rtg_not that familiar with that one.  I'm more of a Steven Stills fan myself...  "If you're not with the one...04:35
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LorenzodTrae: one thing I've noticed: any time I'm using KDE I read up about new Gnome features and go *wow*.04:36
LorenzodBut if I'm using Gnome, I keep hearing about all these new great things in KDE.04:37
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LorenzodSo I keep jumping back and forth..04:37
TraeLorenzod, yah04:37
TraeLorenzod, did I mention that computers suck?04:37
Trae:/04:37
LorenzodTrae: yes you did, and yes they do..04:37
TraeThe OS and the DE etc get in the way IMHO04:37
Traeno matter what OS you use04:38
Traethere is no silver bullet04:38
LorenzodI wish Xfce could become the *one* desktop to rule them all.04:38
Traeheh04:38
LorenzodI would laugh my head off.04:38
Traetoo funny04:38
LorenzodAfter all the corporate backing into Gnome,04:38
Lorenzodand all the development effort into KDE,04:38
Traenod04:38
Traeand here comes the tortise04:39
LorenzodTrae: too true.04:39
LorenzodSteady, slow paced, it overtakes them both.. :-D04:39
rtg_what's Xfce?  another desktop, or a simpler window manager?04:40
Pherlight wm04:40
Lorenzodrtg_: a lightweight desktop. It's used by xubuntu.04:40
LorenzodIt's more than a wm.04:40
rtg_I just heard about xubuntu and edubuntu today...04:41
LorenzodNowadays it even has a filemanager that wasn't coded by mongrels on crack.04:41
Traeok, gotta get some sleep04:41
Traeyou guys take care04:41
Traebbl04:41
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BladesonfireAnyone here try out Kororaa?04:47
Snake__How can I see what my net's name server is?04:52
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_gustavohola a todos04:57
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regeyaI'm so glad you didn't do that in #ubuntu _gustavo...wait, _gustavo is gone.04:59
rtg_snake: still here?05:04
rtg_cat /etc/resolv.conf will tell you what nameserver you're currently using...05:05
Snake__rtg_: sup05:05
Snake__rtg_: ah, I got it :)05:05
rtg_Apparently you're auto config via DHCP, you didn't set it yourself??05:06
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Pherdoes kubuntu do 3d accel for ati radeon cards?05:08
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Pherunder freebsd I used the radeon driver for X, wasn't sure if kubuntu had it as well before I started messing too much05:09
rtg_On my kubuntu 5.10 system, I'm trying the 'dapperupgrade' procedure...05:09
rtg_pher: try the liveCD first...05:10
Pherlet me know how it goes, I may try it in a few days05:10
PherI already have kubuntu installed, using it now05:10
rtg_First discovery:  update-manager is a gnome application, it isn't on the kubuntu distro...05:11
rtg_so I had to install it with adept.  It brought 22 other packages with it...05:11
rtg_when I ran it, it does offer the option to upggrade to 6.06, but it calls it ubuntu 6.06!05:12
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rtg_I'll be bummed if after reboot it wakes up in gnome...05:13
regeyartg_:  I wouldn't worry too much.  kubuntu *is* ubuntu.05:13
regeyakubuntu is ubuntu with a different set of desktop packages.05:14
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rtg_I hope it looks at what I've got, and upates in the same family...05:14
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rtg_I gotta get some sleep.  The update is going to take four hours to download, so I'll check it in the morning...05:22
Pherok05:22
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Lynourea-priori_: nice nick :)06:20
a-priori_thanks :)06:21
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petseihello :)06:28
Hobbseehi petsei06:29
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Marcoshi, i'm new in kubuntu and i have troubles installing a router06:32
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_bbeckjoin #kde06:32
Marcosthe router is smartAx 81006:32
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samadhey i'm having some trouble playing mpg's in kaffeine06:45
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samadi get audio but no visual06:45
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apricota firewall for kde?06:50
LynoureGuarddog comes up on google, at leat06:52
DeadS0ul1`does juk's musicbrainz feature work for any of you?06:54
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LynoureI don't even know what juk is06:55
DeadS0ul1`mp3 player, like amarok06:56
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LynoureIs it default on Breezy?06:57
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DeadS0ulit's teh default in kde06:58
Lynoureweird, I don't see it in the menus in dapper kubuntu06:58
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Lynoureinstead there is amarok06:59
DeadS0ultry using musicbrainz to fill in your tags06:59
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LynoureDeadS0ul: I assume that's what he was trying. No musicbrainz on dapper either (not installed by default, I mean). Is it better than amarok, IYO?07:02
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DeadS0ulmusicbrainz is not a program, it's a service sorta like wikipeidia07:03
DeadS0uluh, more like cddb/gracenote07:03
LynoureI meant juk in general...07:03
DeadS0ul...yeah probably not,, i think I had to apt-get it07:03
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samadi'm having some trouble playing mpg's in kaffeine; i get audio but no visual feedback07:08
samadi'm running breezy 5.10 ppc07:08
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petseihello:) sorry little crash :(07:11
samadme too07:12
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treakathhey07:25
treakathhow are you all07:25
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jtmoneyis there any advantage to running 6.06 beta 2 over 5.10 with using apt-get to install kubuntu-desktop?07:45
LynoureFor me it was getting xserver to work with X600 out of the box :)07:48
LynoureSo, the answer is, just there are some advantages, at least for some people. But Dapper _is_ beta, and can still behave like beta and gets updates about every day, and those can be a hassle for some people07:50
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Lynourejtmoney: Did that anser your question at all?07:53
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ThreeFinityHi all. Got a couple Q's for ya.07:56
ThreeFinityNever used Ubuntu or any related products, jsut linux(slack,drake,RH,gentoo and the like).07:57
ThreeFinityI've got an ATI Radeon video card and an AMD64 bit CPU. I'd like to optimize use of both of those07:57
ThreeFinityis kubuntu 64bit ?07:58
LynoureThreeFinity: I know nothing about AMD64 but which radeon?07:58
ThreeFinityor in a 64bit flavor?07:58
ThreeFinityradeon 9250 SE07:58
ThreeFinityJust wondering how stable is kubuntu as well.07:59
LynoureThere are 64bit images, too, I think07:59
ThreeFinityI'd like to install it and install cedega and run my games and stuff from a linu platform07:59
ThreeFinitylinux*07:59
LynoureDepends on whether you'll go for stable of beta...07:59
ThreeFinitymeh I can work with either07:59
Lynoures/of/or07:59
ThreeFinityeasier to type "or*"08:00
ThreeFinitylol08:00
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ThreeFinityobviou*08:00
ThreeFinityobvious**08:00
Lynourebreezer is more stable, dapper is more new, but alas, beta.08:00
ThreeFinityhmm08:00
Lynoure** is redeundant :)08:00
Lynouregosh I'm typoish today :)08:00
ThreeFinityheh I'm on a platform written in C+, don't talk to me about redundant.08:01
ThreeFinitywindows is so....gay08:01
ThreeFinitybut I've never found a stable linux OS for what I like to do08:01
ThreeFinityit's always like a 3 day battle with something I need to work so I just say screw it and go back to windows lol08:02
ThreeFinityalthough I usually fix the problem first08:02
LynoureI solved my problem for keeping windows around for games only08:02
ThreeFinityfor/by08:02
Lynoure(and occasionaly technical help for the windows world)08:02
ThreeFinityheh08:02
ThreeFinitymeh I'm too lazy to really dual boot alot to switch between games and graphic design mode08:03
ThreeFinityI game alot08:03
LynoureI tend to either play or work :)08:03
ThreeFinityjust tired of window's flaws08:03
LynoureA lot of both but not overlappingly08:03
ThreeFinitylol08:03
ThreeFinitywould be nice to be a paid game reviewer08:03
DeadS0ulif I install a programfrom tar? what path do I specify whenI do ./configure08:03
LynoureThreeFinity: Same here, I'd do away with it if I were not adventure game addict... but as StartForce is now annoyingly common in adventure games, that day might come, still :/08:04
ThreeFinityStartForce?08:05
LynoureDeadS0ul: Which path... for what? To be installed into? That's up to you.08:05
ThreeFinitybtw: "Kubuntu also provieds security updates for 18 months after each releasea," somebody should proofread the release notes08:05
DeadS0ulit's a kde program08:05
LynoureThreeForce: Nasty driver for copyrestriction :/08:06
ThreeFinityradeon?08:06
ThreeFinityyeah I hear they have alot of issues with linux08:06
ThreeFinitygreedy bastages08:06
LynoureStarForce, not Radeon :)08:06
ThreeFinitynever heard heard of it08:06
ThreeFinitystill say radeon is greedy though08:06
LynoureThough I like to keep away from BOC (binary only crap) on linux side08:06
ThreeFinitysource is your friend08:07
ThreeFinityheh08:07
LynoureThat's why I went for dapper. Works beautifully with my X600 :)08:07
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ThreeFinitywell this room seems nicer then the gentoo room that's for sure lol08:08
ThreeFinityI noticed *buntu is debian based.08:08
ThreeFinityWill that cause alot of lerning new commands and make it hard to find packages?08:08
ThreeFinitylearning*08:08
imbrandonnope ;)08:10
imbrandonjust learn apt-get08:10
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LynoureThreeFinity: Not in my opinion, but I had used debian for long (I'm thinking about the times when I started)08:11
ThreeFinityheh08:12
ThreeFinityapt-get is on gentoo too08:12
ThreeFinitysort of08:12
ThreeFinityit's "emerge"08:12
LynoureThreeFinity: There are many gui things for that, but even if you go the comandline way, it's apt-get install/remove  and apt-cache search/show   that you'll prolly just need08:12
ThreeFinitymeh well should I go kubuntu or ubuntu ?08:13
DeadS0ulapt is so sweet08:13
ThreeFinityI like KDE's showiness08:13
LynoureDepends on whether you prefer KDE or Gnome08:13
ThreeFinitynot sure lol08:13
ThreeFinitygnome 2+ was pretty smooth08:13
LynoureYou can switch later, it's not like it's signed in blood :)08:13
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ThreeFinity[10:14pm]  [Personal Notice]  Ubugtu: Error: Error getting Gnome bug #2: NotFound <-- lol08:14
ThreeFinitydo the packages come with the cd?08:14
ThreeFinityor do I gotta do it all manually?08:14
ThreeFinityis there a WM switcher tool?08:15
deepwoodzI'm using opera and it will not play sound for youtube videos or anything else that has to deal with flash08:15
LynoureThreeFinity: I'm not sure.08:15
LynoureI went for KDa after years with Gnome and have been happy so far (couple of weeks)08:16
ThreeFinitywow08:16
ThreeFinitysomebody REALLY needs to look over the release ntoes page08:16
ThreeFinitynotes808:16
ThreeFinityI clicked the downloading and installing link up top08:17
ThreeFinityand it gave me a 404 object not found08:17
ThreeFinitylol08:17
ThreeFinitybut the object does in fact exist...I was just reading it08:17
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coreyugh08:17
coreywhenever i go to connect to a server kbear crashes :(08:18
ThreeFinitywell hello to you too corey08:18
corey;P08:18
ThreeFinitykbear? isn't that a radio station in texas or something?08:18
coreyidk what happened08:18
coreyno its an ftp client08:18
ThreeFinityoh lol k08:18
coreyi had it open then firefox locked up i had to restart08:18
ThreeFinitycheck the error log?08:19
coreynow it crashes each time i try and connect to a server08:19
Lynourecorey: anything in .xsession-errors?08:19
ThreeFinityyou restarted your comp cause firefox locked up ?08:19
coreyyea it locked up the whole thing08:19
coreyi couldnt open terminal or anything08:19
ThreeFinitydid ya try ctrl+alt+backspace?08:20
ThreeFinitythat's the kill command for X08:20
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ThreeFinityif it works then it sure beats destroying your filesystem integrity08:21
coreyyep08:21
coreyit didnt08:21
ThreeFinitywow that sucks. def check your error logs lol08:23
ThreeFinityother then that I'm no linux guru08:23
ThreeFinityso um can't relaly help ya :/08:23
ThreeFinityreally*08:23
ThreeFinityanybody know the diff between hoary and breezy?08:24
I_am_Abibso.. suppose I wanted to mount an NTFS drive just to read and share over the network..08:27
I_am_Abibany ideas?08:27
ThreeFinityis it a local drive you're trying to share with the network or a network drive you're trying to mount/read?08:29
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coreygosh08:30
coreyi unstainlled it and reinstalled it still crashes08:31
ThreeFinitygot all your drivers updated?08:33
ThreeFinityerm nvm08:33
ThreeFinitythat's a silly windows question08:33
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corey?08:34
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SillySquirrelHmmm so firefox crashes or kbear crashes?08:34
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Lynouretime for my podcast walk :)08:35
SillySquirrel?08:35
LynoureHave fun, ppl :)08:35
SillySquirrelwtf is a podcast walk? lol08:35
SillySquirreltc n have fun08:35
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LynoureSillySquirrel: walking the same route again and again -> boring, podcasts make it more entertaining08:36
SillySquirrelohhhhh, ipod's can recieve streaming music wirelessly?08:36
LynoureSillySquirrel: my 'pod' is a secondhan 256M muvo, so not much :)08:36
SillySquirrelheh I had a minidisc walkman, cops stole it when they impounded the car >_<08:37
LynoureNo, I download podcasts into it manually (or semi, ipodder is nice)08:37
SillySquirrelah cool08:37
LynoureBut someday I'll want a ogg capable player, just last time trying to get one went badly (samsung player claimed it could, couldn't and weren't even linux friendly)08:38
SillySquirrelouch08:39
SillySquirrelit's ok08:39
SillySquirrelthe sony MD walkman I got08:39
SillySquirrelwasn't even WINDOWS friewndly08:39
SillySquirrel*-w08:39
SillySquirrelit only worked on SP1 Windows XP lol08:40
SillySquirreltried it on SP2 and win2k and it crashed the box08:40
SillySquirreland sony's headphones break easy08:41
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SillySquirrelsony ate my cat :/08:41
SillySquirreloh wait sorry that was a pitbull named sonny08:41
SillySquirrellol08:41
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SillySquirrelhmm hmmm hmmmm08:45
SillySquirrelcan't decide...ubuntu or kubuntu :/08:46
SillySquirrelguess i'll go with good ole gnome =D since I sued KDE forever08:46
SillySquirrelused*08:46
SillySquirrellol08:46
SillySquirrelwouldn't get muh out of suing(?) an open source nonprofit org08:46
imbrandonkubuntu rox08:47
imbrandon;)08:47
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SillySquirrelany diff from ubuntu ? other then KDE08:48
trinidadhelp08:48
SillySquirreli'll try trinidad08:48
trinidadafter installing kubuntu from base ubuntu install, i can't get the login manager to open08:49
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trinidadim trying to change the look and feel of the login manager, but it doesn't run08:49
trinidadi can change the splash but not the login manager08:49
trinidadthis holds true for both kde and gnome desktops08:49
trinidadthe login manager link try's to start but dies before opening the window08:50
SillySquirrelcheck your X error logs?08:50
trinidadwhere is that?08:50
SillySquirrelbtw does kubuntu include gnome?08:50
SillySquirrelsec08:50
trinidaddon't think so08:50
SillySquirrel[10:20pm]  (Lynoure) corey: anything in .xsession-errors?08:50
SillySquirrelcheck there08:51
SillySquirrellol08:51
trinidadi started with ubuntu 5.10 then installed kubuntu through synaptic08:51
trinidadbrb lemme check the log08:51
protocol1imbrandon, yes indeed....i like kubuntu08:52
trinidadcould not access GDM configuration file08:53
trinidadwhere is this file?08:53
trinidadmaybe i need to sudo it08:53
trinidadbrb08:53
deepwoodzmy flashplayer plays videos but no sound any clue why?08:54
trinidadthat didn't work08:54
trinidadany thoughts08:54
trinidad?08:54
trinidadok i can see the gdm.conf file08:56
trinidadany pointers to where i can change the accessibility of it08:56
trinidad?08:56
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JazzeDhi09:17
JazzeDcould any one help me in the x server my administrator mode does not seem 2 work09:18
JazzeDthough su works09:18
JazzeDkubuntu 5.1009:19
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sword-hey guys09:25
sword-how many times do you all have stability problems w/ your system09:25
sword-i notice firefox freezes on me once in a while...just a sec ago i had to restart X because of it09:26
sword-somewhat annoying09:26
fatejudgerthat's because firefox is crap09:26
sword-well what browser do you use09:26
sword-please don't say mozilla09:26
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SillySquirrellol fatejudger firefox owns on windows09:30
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fatejudgerSillySquirrel: Kubuntu isn't Windows09:31
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SillySquirrelreally?wow I'm a noob been usin kubuntu all thsi time thinking it was windows09:32
SillySquirreldidn't MS make Mac OSX ?09:32
fatejudgercan you spell?09:32
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swordhmm x randomly rebooted09:32
fatejudgerseriously, you're not funny, and you're certainly not smart09:32
SillySquirrellol you're judging how smart I am based upon a few typo's. Now who's not smart?09:33
swordheh09:33
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fatejudgersword: have you ever used Konqueror?09:33
I_am_Abiboh no efight09:33
fatejudgerSillySquirrel: this discussion is absurd09:33
SillySquirrellol09:33
SillySquirreldon't tell me...09:34
swordnot much - java and flash apps fuck up in it09:34
SillySquirrelyou're the one that started it fatejudger09:34
fatejudgersword: oh yeah, in what instance?09:34
fatejudgersword: flash and java work perfectly for me09:34
swordits moreso java applications, java chat apps or when i do yahoo chess or something09:34
swordcould be my config09:34
swordmight give it a second shot09:35
fatejudgersword: java isn't enabled by default09:35
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fatejudgersword: you have to enable it, which is very simple09:35
swordyeah i know09:35
fatejudgersword: you also need to make sure that your java install is good09:35
swordi installed it from scratch (java)09:35
fatejudgersword: using the proprietary one is a good idea09:35
swordit doesnt mess up in firefox09:35
fatejudgersword: I use seveas' package09:35
swordlink?09:35
swordanother thing, you never get sync problems with flash apps dude?09:36
swordlke if you go to youtube09:36
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Broxtorfor the ones who are interested: A solution to non-working sound of a pinnacle tv card in Dapper can be found here:09:36
Broxtorhttp://www.ubuntu-forum.de/artikel/8786/Pinnacle-PCTV-Rave-TV-Karte-ohne-Ton.html09:36
I_am_Abib:( could someone help me with mounting an ntfs drive?09:36
fatejudger!ntfs09:37
ubotuI heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions09:37
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stargaterhi09:42
SillySquirrelHi :)09:42
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cmpHello09:51
cmpHow can I deactivate to synchronise the clock with ntp.ubuntu... at startup? Bacause I have only a dialin modem09:53
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stargaterHMM can not make a update kubuntu 5.10 kde to kde 3.5.x09:57
stargatera false or interrupt server files09:57
protocol1cmp, there  should a wiki doc on doing that09:58
protocol1look in wiki09:58
protocol1there shoud be a script for that you can set09:58
stargateryes i have look10:01
stargaterit not work here10:01
stargaterhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php10:01
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protocol1Im using 3.4.310:05
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ninHerhi all10:06
protocol1stargater, If  I add those repositories will it up my version of kubuntu?10:07
LorenzodHm.. I'm experiencing semi-regular keyboard lock-ups.10:07
LorenzodChanging IM from XIM->SCIM seems to solve the problem.10:08
LorenzodBut does anybody know how I can set SCIM to always be the default IM?10:08
stargaterno10:10
stargaterahh kde 3.5.2 is aviable not the 3.5.110:11
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cfraz89hi10:12
stargaterhi cfraz8910:12
protocol1stargater, why does that url that you just posted only have 3.5.1?10:13
stargater? you mean what10:14
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stargatersorry10:14
protocol1so its possible to get the latest kde to work on breezy10:15
stargater i have add the /etc/apt/source.list10:15
Lorenzodprotocol1: go to http://kubuntu.org. I think you'll find breezy packages there..10:16
stargaterand apt-get update / upgrade10:16
protocol1ok cool...thanks10:16
stargaterbut i not sure , i must reboot to see a new kde version is running or installing10:17
stargaterreboot10:17
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stargaterre10:23
stargaternot kde 3.510:23
stargater:(10:23
stargateranyone have update kde to a new 3.5.2 ?10:24
cfraz89i have it10:24
cfraz89in dapper10:24
stargaterin 5.1010:24
cfraz89oh10:24
stargaterdapper can i not install10:24
stargaterthe beta 1 have distroy my patitions ( oh good my files delete an i have no update ) :-)10:25
ccc_stargater: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php10:25
stargaterbeta 2 installing is hanging up to 15% the /root filepartion are false => say me the installer :(10:26
stargaterccc_:  i have this do, but not working10:28
stargaterKcontrol said me a kde 3.4.x version number10:28
cfraz89did you use the livecd installer, or standalone?10:29
ccc_then you did something wrong. it works ;)10:29
stargatercfraz89:  the livecd isntaller10:30
cfraz89that might be why10:30
cfraz89i think the standalone one works much better in partitioning10:30
stargaterccc_:  ok, but what make a wrong10:30
stargateradd the wget und sudo the gpg and apt-get update / upgrade10:31
cfraz89did youadd the source?10:31
stargatersure in a /etc/apt/source.list10:31
cfraz89ok10:32
stargater4 dep urls10:32
cfraz89if you want to go to dapper try the standalone installer10:32
stargatercfraz89:  ok, but i waiting for a finel dapper10:33
DeadS0ulhopefully they upgrade the kernel to 2.6.16 =D10:33
cfraz89ok10:34
stargaterDeadS0ul:  why ? i think it whas better, kubuntu make better kernel for desktop ( farster boot, etc)10:34
stargaterkde = more clearn in the app, more defoult setting(e.d shortcuts etc), better look & feel10:35
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stargatergnome is realy clean but slow (i feel it) kde have more power but it is toooooo bloadet10:36
stargatermy main os is ZETA (developet from BeOS) and testing HAIKU10:37
stargaterthis i realy speed os10:37
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stargaterre10:40
stargaterlaptop battery is over10:40
stargateranyone said ?10:40
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DeadS0ulstargater: =O I dunno, i just like the lastest and greatest10:41
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stargaterDeadS0ul:  the lastest ?10:46
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DeadS0ulyeah10:46
stargatersorry = lastest of what ?10:47
DeadS0ulkernel, libs, kde..10:47
DeadS0uludev10:47
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thughi all10:48
stargaterDeadS0ul:  ah ok10:49
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stargateryou mean the latest of dapper ?10:49
cfraz89lol same10:50
stargater:-)10:51
cfraz89i die of internal agony until i have latest of everything10:51
stargaterso reboot and working , cu later10:51
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DeadS0ulcfraz89: explains why you know xserver-xgl config haha10:53
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cfraz89lol10:53
cfraz89yeah10:53
cfraz89cant wait until nvidia supports aiglx10:53
DenHi - Can someone help me figure out how to see the videos at http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxtag.org%2F2006%2Fde%2Fhome%2Fvideo%2Fplaylists.html&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools, or, er, http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/de/home/video/playlists.html10:54
DenI'm using Kaffine, but it can't handle the playlist or fluendo.com url10:55
DenCan anyone help with that?10:55
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Den??10:56
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DenAnyone here?10:58
cfraz89the first link looks broken10:58
cfraz89as in the link to the stream from first link10:58
Dencfraz89: it's supposed to be a google translate link10:58
cfraz89yeah10:58
cfraz89i think the stream is broken10:58
cfraz89http://stream.fluendo.com:8806 doesnt work10:59
Denoh.10:59
cfraz89has it started yet?10:59
Dendon't know10:59
cfraz89maybe it hasnt started yet10:59
protocol1how do I check which version of kde im currently running10:59
cfraz89oh i see10:59
cfraz893-6 may10:59
cfraz89today is 7th11:00
protocol1via command line if possible11:00
cfraz89i think your too late11:00
cfraz89protocol1: kde-config -v11:00
DenThe LinuxTag conference goes on until Saturday. Talks that take place in the main conference room can be watched online via a free Webcast (instructions in German).11:00
protocol1ok11:00
cfraz89today is sunday?11:01
Dencfraz89: Do you think it was a _live_ webcast, not a video archive of tehtalks?11:01
jpatrickcfraz89: yes11:01
cfraz89okay11:01
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cfraz89thanks, im not crazy11:02
cfraz89Den, yeah, definitely live11:02
protocol1it says my version is 3.4.311:02
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Dencfraz89: thanks11:02
cfraz89np11:02
protocol1what are the steps to update to the latest?11:02
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protocol1is breezy only capable of handling kde 3.4.3?11:04
cfraz89protocol1: try http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php11:05
hastesaverprotocol1, I'm running 3.5.211:05
DeadS0ulhey cfraz89: have you seen metamonitor?11:07
n3stormhi everyone11:07
cfraz89what is that?11:08
protocol1ok11:10
protocol1after I update my kde do I reboot my system or do I just log out and log back in?11:10
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DeadS0ulrestart x11:10
DeadS0ulno need to reboot all of kde11:11
DeadS0ulthe whole system even11:11
protocol1ok11:11
protocol1thanks you for the help11:11
protocol1thank*11:11
hastesaverprotocol1, just log out, and hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, and wait for it to come back, then log in11:11
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n3stormsomebody knows how may I compile a kde app so it is installed like other kde apps in kubuntu?11:16
n3stormconfigure --???11:16
protocol1brb need to reboot now11:16
n3stormI was told a couple of weeks ago but I didn't write it down so I forgot11:16
n3storm:(11:16
cfraz89./configure --prefix=/usr11:16
jpatrickn3storm: ./configure --prefix=/usr11:16
n3stormcfraz89:11:16
n3stormjpatrick: hey11:16
n3stormthanks11:17
n3storm:)11:17
jpatrickhi n3storm11:17
jpatrickn3storm: what app is it?11:17
cfraz89:)11:18
cfraz89installing kompile might help11:18
cfraz89it makes compiling perty11:18
n3storm:) Koverartist11:18
cfraz89ah11:19
jpatrickn3storm: in dapper (by me)11:19
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n3storm0.6.3?11:23
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n3stormjpatrick: that's great11:23
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n3stormdo you like the icons?11:23
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n3stormwell, the icon?11:23
cello_raspany screenshots of kde dapper yet?11:23
jpatrickn3storm: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/koverartist11:23
n3stormjpatrick: I made the icon for Stefan ;)11:24
jpatrickwhat there's a new version'11:24
jpatrickn3storm: will have to wait for Dapper+111:25
n3storm:(11:25
n3storm0.3.2 doesn't have my icon buaaa11:26
n3storm:D11:26
n3stormok I can wait11:26
jpatricksince we're in version freeze11:26
n3stormaha11:26
jpatrickn3storm: did you simply fix the .desktop file?11:27
n3stormjpatrick: I didn't but somebody else did11:27
n3stormI made logo and icon for Koverartist11:27
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jpatrickok11:29
jpatrickn3storm: I could include them in an upload11:29
jpatrickif they're in .xpm format11:29
n3stormjpatrick: I don't know what could be the xpm for11:29
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jpatrickn3storm: icon11:30
thughow will i get rid of the gnome desktop and install kde desktop ?11:30
jpatrickcello_rasp: my dapper desktop: http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot41jg.png11:30
n3stormjpatrick: but kde and gnome use png or svg...11:31
jpatricki know11:31
jpatrickgot an svg?11:31
hastesaverthug, Install the package kubuntu-desktop11:31
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thughastesaver right ... and how do i get rid of gnome ?11:32
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freeflyingjpatrick: hi11:32
dell500anyone here know how to get multple instances of kaffeine?11:32
hastesaverthug, let it stay there, it won't hurt11:32
Sputnik8HI!11:32
jpatrickhi freeflying11:32
thughastesaver :)11:33
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freeflyingjpatrick: are u on linuxtag today?11:33
jpatrickNo11:33
jpatricktoo young11:33
thughastesaver is dapper out  ?11:33
jpatrickthug: no11:33
thugok thanks11:33
hastesaverthug, The betas are out, the actual release will be out on June  111:33
thugthanks11:33
dell500anyone know?11:34
jpatrickfreeflying: would of loved to go11:34
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chavodell500, I don't think you can11:34
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StarZenDwhenever i want to do an apt-get i have to first type "host archive.ubuntu.com" and "host security.ubuntu.com" or the apt-get trys to talk to 1.0.0.0 i think it is.11:35
StarZenDwhats going wrong here?11:35
n3stormjpatrick: how may send the svg to you?11:35
dell500so cna you play 2 things at once?11:35
dell500that kinda sucks11:35
jpatrickn3storm: jpatrick@ubuntu.com11:36
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hastesaverdell500, yes, you can play two things at once. Don't ask me how; I've forgotten how I did it :)11:36
thughastesaver please have a look at my source.list and tell me if there any repos i have to desable it ... it might crash my system or something > http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70318411:37
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thughastesaver i might run updates from a bad repos ... i heard guys saying that some repos i should just get what i want and disable it ... so no updates from it11:37
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hastesaverthug, remove the last three. Too frequent updates, and unstable releases; I don't think you need them11:38
thug#opera web browser11:38
thug#OO2 final11:38
thugand #wine11:39
thugare the last three11:39
hastesaverthug, yes. I had the Wine and OO2 in my sources.list; there would be 10 MB updates every day or so!11:39
protocol1It said it setup  3.5.2  in the console....but it still says its version 3.4.3?11:39
hastesaverthug, I think you can safely leave in Opera11:39
thugok11:40
thugso i will remove the last three i dont use opera anyway11:40
jpatrickprotocol1: log out, log back in11:40
thuggope the rest of them are fine11:40
thug*hope11:40
n3stormjpatrick: sent11:41
protocol1jpatrick, i reboot after the update11:41
protocol1should I logout and back in anyways11:41
hastesaverthug, yeah, from personal experience, I think they're fine.11:41
thughastesaver ok thanks11:42
jpatrickn3storm: geat11:42
jpatrickn3storm: wow, this is groovy11:42
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n3stormhehehe, thanks11:43
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n3stormis the only way I can give back to the community: nice graphics11:43
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jpatrickn3storm: I can't include the .png's because they're binary11:43
n3stormwell, and helping debug, testing, etc11:43
jpatrickbut I'll try the .svg11:43
n3stormjpatrick: aha11:44
n3stormok11:44
jpatrickn3storm: it should go into /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/scalable/apps right?11:46
n3stormjpatrick: wait, I'll tell you11:46
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n3stormjpatrick: I'm not sure11:49
n3stormwill the desktop pick it from there by default?11:49
jpatricki think so11:50
jpatrickn3storm: building now11:53
n3stormok11:54
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thughastesaver after installing kubuntu-desktop will my machine boot into kde deskop after ?11:57
thugor do i need to set kdm as default desktop manager ?11:58
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_Stevendoes kde 3.5.2 have a different version kopete than kde 3.5.112:43
Sputnik8yes12:43
Sputnik8There are some bugfixes I think...12:43
Sputnik8@_Steven why?12:44
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protocol1is there a way to fix the jittery playback from my builtin mplayer on my ff1.5?12:45
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hastesaverprotocol1, does the normal mplayer (not from within firefox) work fine?12:49
protocol1yeah12:49
protocol1hastesaver, theres  got to be a fix for this some way12:50
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hastesaverprotocol1, by "within firefox", you mean the mplayerplug-in, right? (Or mozilla-mplayer, whatever it is called)12:50
protocol1yes12:51
protocol1correct12:51
hastesaverprotocol1, look at ~/.mplayer/config, and ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf12:51
hastesaverprotocol1, they use different config files, so maybe they are using differnent -ao or something12:51
hastesaverprotocol1, can you paste the two files into pastebin? Maybe someone can look at them and see what's wrong12:52
protocol1ok12:52
protocol1i should look  in wiki  too12:52
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protocol1Im sure that would be very helpful12:53
hastesaverprotocol1, yeah, but if mplayer is already working, then it shouldn't be hard to simply make the plugin use the same configs12:53
hastesaverprotocol1, paste the two files, let us see12:53
_StevenSputnik8: long story, sorry I have to go12:54
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Sputnik8Ciao!12:54
protocol1how do I go about doing that?12:54
hastesaver!pastebin12:54
ubotu[pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126912:54
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thughi all12:55
thughow do i get th tree view in konqueror ?12:56
jpatrickview -> view mode -> tree12:56
thugi would like to view the folders on the left side panel ... like it was before ...12:56
jpatrickF912:56
protocol1hastesaver let me get that together than pasted12:56
thugyeah nice one12:57
thugjpatrick and how do i get the other little panel .witch allows me to make the icons bigger or smaller and view ..detail .. icons .. list ..12:58
jpatrickwhat?12:58
Sputnik8I think also in view...12:59
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Allz|awayhello01:00
Allz|awaysomeone here01:00
Allz|awayplease :)01:00
thugjpatrick hold on i will find a picture for you01:00
Allz|awayis ther a softwer that can -split C: disk to 2 i am gonna install kubuntu01:01
Allz|awayand i want to keep windows01:01
kmonAllz|away: try the gparted live cd01:02
thugjpatrick have a look here please http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Graphics/KDE-Konqueror-file-manager_2-tabs_578x423.jpg01:02
jpatrickgoing01:02
kmonAllz|away: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php01:02
thugjpatrick how do i get the same as it shows there01:03
hastesaverAllz|away, There were disk management tools within Windows XP/2000 that could do it :)01:03
thughttp://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Graphics/KDE-Konqueror-file-manager_2-tabs_578x423.jpg01:03
Allz|awayTHANKS01:03
thugjpatrick please have a look01:03
Allz|awayyou are the bet man01:03
Allz|away:)01:03
Allz|awaybest*01:03
jpatrickthug: in view -> view mode01:03
thugjpatrick no ... see al them little icons on the top ? how do i get them ?01:04
thugthe zoom in zoom out icons ...01:04
thugetc01:04
protocol1hastesaver, I only found ~/.mplayer/config01:05
hastesaverBTW, is there a way to remove konqueror?01:05
hastesaverprotocol1, ok, paste it01:05
thugjpatrick found it ... thats the main toolbar01:05
protocol1no..  ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf01:05
jpatrickthug: right click on a toolbar -> configure toolbar01:05
protocol1ok01:05
jpatrickhastesaver: break your kde doing that01:05
hastesaverjpatrick, Why does kde need konqueror? I never use konqueror... :(01:06
jpatrickfor the desktop I think01:06
kmonhastesaver: konqueror is more than the kde browser01:06
jpatrickand konq rocks01:06
kmonit's the filemanager as well01:06
Allz|away<kmon> it is for linux the linki you send me01:07
hastesaverI don't use a filemanager, I only use "ls/cp/mv..." :)01:07
kmonAllz|away: it's a live cd01:07
Allz|awaywtf01:07
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Allz|awayso i have to burn it01:08
Allz|away;S?01:08
kmonAllz|away: you boot from that cd, and then you can resize the partition from the live cd enviroment01:08
kmonAllz|away: yes01:08
hastesaverAllz|away, what version of Windows are you using? If it's later than 2000, you can free up space from Windows itself01:08
Allz|awayXp01:08
Allz|awaywindows xp01:08
kmonAllz|away: be sure to backup first anything important01:08
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hastesaverAllz|away, then it's there in some system tools or something. Disk Administration, I think it's called. Sorry, it was a loooong time ago that I used Windows :)01:09
Allz|awaykmon is ther a better sofware01:09
Allz|away;)01:09
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protocol1hastesaver, i pasted it01:09
kmongparted can resize ntfs01:09
protocol1its actually one files01:09
protocol1file*01:10
kmonwhich is what the live cd uses01:10
thughow do i get a line separator between search button and location bar ?01:10
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Allz|awaycan i just use a p2p to get it then crazk it :P01:10
protocol1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1356501:11
jpatrickthug: add a line seperator01:11
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hastesaverprotocol1, oh lol, it's empty01:11
protocol1hmmm01:11
kmonAllz|away: I don't recommend using any warez software when gparted does the job01:11
kmonanyway...01:12
thugjpatrick i would like to have the main toolbar on the same line with the back .. home refresh bottons .. and the location bar right under them ...01:12
hastesaverprotocol1, then the only thing I can suggest is to try fiddling with the ao options in mplayerplug-in, and find one that works01:12
thugjpatrick as it shows here http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Graphics/KDE-Konqueror-file-manager_2-tabs_578x423.jpg01:12
jpatrickmove them around01:12
hastesaverprotocol1, try "arts","alsa", "oss", and "esd"01:12
thugjpatrick no clue where exactly to add the line separator :)01:12
hastesaverprotocol1, in that order. Find which one works best :)01:12
jpatrickthug: configure toolbars01:12
thugjpatrick i know that bit ... i just down know where to drap the line separator ;)01:13
protocol1the mplayerplug-in can be found where exactly now?01:13
Allz|awaymy prblem is i dont have and cd01:14
Allz|away:<01:14
jpatrickthug: at the end of the bar?01:14
Allz|awayto burn this geek :)01:14
protocol1has to be in the browsers  folder somewhere correct?01:14
hastesaverprotocol1, go to a site that has the music or whatever, then right-click on the plugin when it starts playing01:14
thugjpatrick it doesnt work01:14
protocol1got ya01:15
jpatrickthug: sorry01:15
Allz|awaykmon PartitionMagic is the best right?01:16
kmonAllz|away: don't know01:16
kmonhaven't used that01:16
Allz|awayi have one cd01:16
Allz|awaybut it wont burn any thing01:17
hastesaverAllz|away, IMHO, the default thing on Windows is simple and good enough01:17
Allz|awayha?01:17
Allz|awayimho01:18
thugjpatrick is there anyway to make navigation panel to stay open all the time .. even when i close konqueror ?01:18
jpatrickerr01:19
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Allz|awayppl is ther a way to delete from cs01:20
Allz|awayand burn a new one on the cd01:20
Allz|away?01:21
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Thug-N-Mehow do i get the KDE default layout ?01:23
jpatrickhttp://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror01:24
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Thug-N-Merm: cannot remove `/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror': No such file or directory01:25
Thug-N-Meheh01:25
ninHerhi all01:25
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OdyXHey02:01
OdyXSomebody here registered Mark's speech in LinuxTag ?02:01
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jpatrickOdyX: wait for announce02:08
OdyXjpatrick: well... I can't !!02:09
OdyXjpatrick: do you have it ?02:09
jpatrickno02:09
OdyXjpatrick: you have no more infos than us ?02:09
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jpatrickI'm waiting for dot.kde.org02:09
OdyX;-)02:09
darkmanaanyone here running dapper drake and running into adept being resident?02:10
OdyX"resident" ?02:11
OdyXdarkmana: I'm on dapper drake02:11
darkmanawell, i get a message when trying to load that its already running, cant modify packages, etc etc02:11
jpatrickdarkmana: got dpkg, apt, etc running?02:11
darkmanaas if its running already02:11
imbrandonsudo killall -9 adept ?02:11
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darkmanahrm02:12
darkmanano process killed02:12
imbrandonthen dpkg or something similar is running like jpatrick said02:12
darkmanaya i just tried killing off apt-get, aptitude, dpkg... no luck there02:13
LeeJunFanperhaps adept notifier is updating repos at the moment.02:13
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OdyXdarkmana: what happens exactly ?02:13
imbrandoncan you pastebin the output of "ps ax" ?02:13
jpatrickdarkmana: "fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock"02:13
darkmanaits probably like LeeJunFan is saying... its probably the notifier02:13
OdyXdarkmana: possible.02:14
OdyXdarkmana: wait 10 minutes02:14
OdyXdarkmana: in fact... notifier accesses in read-only02:14
OdyXdarkmana: it's more probably cron...02:14
darkmanadoh...02:14
darkmanaso its probably doing something needed, just let it run its course you think?02:15
imbrandon<jpatrick> darkmana: "fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock"  <-- did ya try that, it will tell you what has it opened02:16
darkmanajpatrick: yeah i did that and it returned nothing02:17
jpatrickfreaky02:17
LeeJunFanyeah, maybe see if ps xa | egrep "apt|dpkg" returns anything.02:17
darkmana7322 pts/9    S+     0:00 grep -E apt|dpkg02:17
jpatricknever mind that02:17
imbrandonhmm weird02:17
DeBertMaybe a stupid question, but what does skim do?02:18
imbrandonmaybe a good old reboot ? lol that reminds me of windows too much02:18
jpatrickDeBert: skim is a KDE frontend for the SCIM input method platform. It provides a GUI panel and a KConfig module. It has it's own plugin system that supports on demand loadable actions.02:18
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DeBertjpatrick: Ah, and what does SCIM do? :)02:18
jpatrickit's the thing that skim's the frontend for02:18
imbrandonhehe02:19
LeeJunFanwell if there are no apps actually doing anything with dpkg lock maybe it's just time to rm it?02:19
DeBertjpatrick: thx, that helped a lot :)02:19
imbrandonDeBert:  It has it's own plugin system that supports on demand loadable actions.02:19
jpatrickDeBert: Smart Common Input Method (SCIM) is an input method (IM) platform02:19
imbrandonanyone else tried the Ahead NeroLINUX beta ? man its lightyears beind k3b and dosent even have the features of nero of windows flavor, in other words if you have not tried it DONT its a waste of time02:21
darkmanalol... nero in linux...02:21
imbrandonheh about the only thing they have in common is the icon ( the windows flavor and the linux one )02:22
koshI have tried it, I like k3b far more02:22
imbrandonyea02:22
koshk3b intergrates with all of my stuff02:22
koshand I have not had a bad burn on k3b in years02:22
imbrandonwell i thought "hey an easy way to do my dvd's" lol WRONG02:22
OdyXk3b just works for everything I want..02:22
koshand it has worked for all the stuff I have done02:22
DeBertIs k3b gonna support lightscribe/labelflash in the future?02:23
koshwhat do you mean do your dvds?02:23
imbrandonyup yup just thought i would give the new kid on the block a try but it SUX02:23
DeBerti just bought a fancy DVD-burner that supports labelflash02:23
koshno idea about that, never used it and know nothing about it02:23
koshthe burner I plan to get is a nice SATA plextor model02:23
imbrandonkosh , handeling the encoding from xvid to VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS and also the lightscribe features02:24
DeBerti recently bought a NEC ND-457102:24
imbrandoni can do it all now just cmd line etc etc etc02:24
koshah mostly I just burn cds and I will be going to a dvd burner just for more space02:24
imbrandonand nero for windows does it all with "one click"02:24
koshwe make backups of customer databases on them02:24
OdyXI thinks LightScribe/Labelflash are probably proprietary, huh ?02:25
imbrandonyea , i use my dvd burner to burn movies mostly ;)02:25
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koshthat is just not something I have ever done with a burner, I am sure some people do have a use for that feature but I can't see it02:25
imbrandonlightscribe is not labelflash is02:25
koshthe movies I have I just buy02:25
koshI have downloaded a movie or two over the internet and the quality is crap, I would rather pay full price02:25
imbrandonls is a standard labelflash is nec only02:26
OdyXdoes anybody know a GOOD program to make Ogg/theora videos from DVD ?02:26
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DeBertkosh: than you don't know where to look02:26
imbrandonOdyX: mplayer ?02:26
OdyXimbrandon: mplayer '??????02:26
imbrandonDeBert: yea your grabbing the wrong movies on the net ;)02:26
OdyXimbrandon: means ?02:26
koshDeBert: how many movies encode and keep the full 5.1 or 6.1 audio tracks?02:26
imbrandonOdyX: mplayer will make ood movies form dvd02:26
imbrandonoog02:26
imbrandonogg02:26
imbrandongrrrr02:26
OdyXimbrandon: ogg probably.. but theora ???02:27
DeBertkosh: you can download the full DVDr's, or high quality Xvid's02:27
imbrandonwith the right plugin it should02:27
koshogg is a container, theora is the video, vorbis is the audio02:27
OdyXimbrandon: I'm looking. Thanks.02:27
OdyXkosh: yep02:27
koshI would rather just pay for the movies02:27
kosheither they are worth it to pay for or you just don't get them02:27
imbrandon;)02:27
OdyXkosh: impressive how people mix Ogg and Vorbis, no ?02:27
Hobbseeer...hi Ubugtu - lots of different nicks?02:27
UbugtuHobbsee, hehe02:28
koshgetting them illegally is just wrong02:28
imbrandonmorning Hobbsee02:28
UbugtuI am working on the bot 02:28
Hobbseehi imbrandon02:28
DeBertkosh: nowadays i buy when i like the material, i first download it, try it and than decide. With games/movies/music/whatever02:28
HobbseeUbugtu: so i eventually saw, wiht the quit message.  have you killed it yet, and does this involve working on a flood control?02:28
koshI just rent them first02:28
UbugtuHobbsee, yes and no02:29
koshhowever just about every game I play you will NEVER find a version of it for free download that you can try unless it is offered by the company that makes the game02:29
DeBertkosh: over here in holland they dare to ask 20euro for a CD, that's just criminal02:29
HobbseeUbugtu: heh02:29
imbrandon<-- rents , rips , burns ( only downloads the ones impossible to rent )02:29
Ubugtuit involves an upgrade to supybot 0.8302:29
Hobbseeooh fun02:29
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koshDeBert: then don't buy the cd and don't download it either, the price will have to come down or the music will stop being made02:30
remnondoes anyone here own a ATI Radeon 9200 ?02:30
koshI have one in this box right now02:30
DeBertkosh: they haven't come down in 25 years, since CD's where first introduced02:30
remnonkosh, did you have any problems getting the 3d accel. installed in KDE ?02:30
koshremnon: I can't use 3d accel, I have two video cards and only one of them is the 920002:31
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remnonah..02:31
koshremnon: the ati driver does not work across two different models of radeon cards to do 3d accel across 4 monitors02:31
remnonhmm.. i've got 2 monitors (one 22" crt and a tv)02:31
remnonand i can only get it to work on one at a time02:32
koshah I have 4 regular monitors02:32
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remnonhmm.. guess i won't be playing anything with this config then :(02:32
remnonoh well.. heh, minor setback ^^02:32
remnoni can always boot my gaming rig up.. hehe02:33
koshthere probably is a way to do it, I just don't know what it is02:33
remnonheh, same here..02:33
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remnoni switched to KDE from GNOME not long ago..02:33
remnoncan't really get heads or tails of this thing yet02:33
koshwell my next cards will be nvidia02:33
koshaccelerated graphics has nothing to do with kde or gnome02:33
DeBertAnybody got an idea when Kopete with Gtalk's VOIP support will apeare in Kubuntu?02:33
koshit is an Xorg thing and both run on top of Xorg02:34
remnonaye, kosh, i know but the whole thing is so much different02:34
koshyup extremely02:34
remnonas in the functionality02:34
koshI have tried to use gnome but got very frustrated with it02:34
koshquad monitor setups and gnome just don't seem to get along at all02:34
remnonheh.. i used it for about a year02:34
koshthe interface just does not customize very well02:35
remnoni liked the simple usage..02:35
remnonand that's about it02:35
koshI used kde since it started but I liked gnome back when sawfish was the window manager02:35
remnonyou can't really customize it too much02:35
remnonah02:35
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koshhowever the regular setup does not work with more then one monitor very well02:35
koshkde is flexible enough I can customize it to what I need02:35
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darkmanagah... i tried a reboot thinking maybe something might change... i was wrong02:36
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imbrandonjust becouse i like the power of linux dosent mean i dont like the way windows looks ;)02:37
remnonlol02:37
koshah mine does not look remotely like windows02:37
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koshhave you tried to use windows on a multimonitor system? it is even worse then gnome is02:37
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remnonhaha02:37
remnonaye02:37
remnonit's a nightmare02:37
imbrandonhah02:37
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nox-HandHey02:37
darkmanaim just not impressed with the visual style windows tries to use... even vista is ugly imo02:38
nox-HandI need OpenGL on my Nvidia Geforce FX5200.. Which way should I get that in my Kubuntu?02:38
remnonbut you know, there's a very poignant saying "any machine works untill you install something done by microsoft"02:38
koshhttp://aesaeion.com/mydesk02:38
remnon(poor wording aside, i think i got the point across)02:38
imbrandonkosh: http://imbrandon.sytes.net/snapshot1.png02:39
remnonince02:40
imbrandonkde 3.5.2 ;)02:40
remnonnice *02:40
remnonsame here02:40
remnonhmm.. i've got a screen somewhere too :p02:41
remnonnope02:41
remnoni'll upload it :p02:41
imbrandon<printscreen key> hehehe02:41
nox-Handimbrandon: The hell is up with your XP look?!02:42
imbrandon[07:36]  * imbrandon makes it a point to make his kde look and feel like windows02:42
imbrandon[07:36]  --> thedowd has joined this channel (n=thedowd@ppp-70-243-189-248.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net).02:42
imbrandon[07:37]  <imbrandon> just becouse i like the power of linux dosent mean i dont like the way windows looks ;)02:42
koshso what do you guys think of mine?02:42
nox-Handhttp://www.sector-42.frih.net/docs/screenshots/screenshot2.png <- That's how Linux should look :D02:42
nox-Handimbrandon: Bah.02:42
koshyou might have to scroll quite a ways to see it all02:42
koshwhy would you use IE in linux?02:42
LeeJunFanno kidding, that's like painting a corvette brown and sticking peanuts and corn to it.02:42
nox-Handkosh: Agreed, never use IE:D02:43
imbrandonhe ist for lib compat in wine02:43
imbrandonits02:43
imbrandonother programs installed ( under wine req ie 6 + ) like quickbooks and other shit i dev on02:43
koshI am happier I dev with zope :)02:44
imbrandon;)02:44
imbrandonplus its good to see how broken my sites are in IE02:44
nox-HandAnywho, I gotta go, bbl.02:44
LeeJunFanhere's a screeny of linux showing off, albeit a kind of old one. http://home.skycon.net/~junfan/snapshot2.png02:44
darkmanammmm emu02:45
imbrandonheh nice yea i got a system 7.5.3 install on basilsik somewhere arround here02:45
imbrandonheh02:45
imbrandonand mac osx in pearpc ( real osx not the tiger-osx.bz thing )02:46
koshI find it interesting that most peoples screen shots show some kind of desktop background02:46
imbrandonand a few other os's i goof with02:46
koshmy desktop bakcground is just flat black and I have not seen it in many months02:46
cfraz89lol02:46
koshI have apps covering up everything02:46
remnonlol02:46
imbrandonheh02:46
remnonnice one02:46
koshif I had extra space I would have more apps showing02:46
cfraz89mine has karambas02:47
koshwhat is the point of showing some background when I could show more columns and rows of code02:47
imbrandon;)02:47
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jpatrickOdyX: there's some stuff on kubuntu.de02:48
imbrandonnice jpatrick02:50
darkmanawelp, just found out what it was... dpkg was killed or something so it was whining and i had to do a "--configure -a"02:52
jpatrickdarkmana: aha02:53
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darkmananow if i could only fix the stupid sound lag...02:54
Thug-N-MeHow to allow root user to login into KDE ?02:54
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steveireI can play wma with kaffeine but not with azeureus. Is that normal?02:55
steveireThug-N-Me: You can't =, i understand02:55
steveirejust use sudo in a terminal02:56
Thug-N-Mesteveire ?02:56
Thug-N-Mesteveire no man ... the problem is that i dont have write permission to my mounted hdd02:56
steveireLog in as system user, and user sudo in the terminal02:56
steveirein media, ls -l02:57
Thug-N-Meyeah so what ?02:58
steveirethen chmod as you need to02:58
Thug-N-Meits owned by root02:58
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steveirechown $user:$user02:58
steveiresorry02:58
steveirechown $user:$user <dirname>02:58
Thug-N-MeR user:user02:58
Thug-N-Meok02:58
Thug-N-Mewhat about moving the contend of /usr/local/lib/codec/all-20050412 into /usr/local/lib/codec ?02:59
remnondamnit ! my KBear crashes every time i try to copy the file into my ftp O_o03:00
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jpatrickguten tag Zerlinna03:00
Zerlinnahi jpatrick :-)03:01
DeadS0ulanyone here good at web design? I need help with css and javascript =\03:02
imbrandonanyone know of a streight forward , plain english , type howto for setting up a linux terminal server ( ltsp ) on (k)ubuntu ?03:02
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jpatrick!lamp03:04
ubotuLinux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP03:04
jpatrickimbrandon: ^ ?03:04
imbrandonnah ltsp not lamp ( ie thin client serving )03:05
imbrandonltsp.org03:05
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imbrandontried to set it up a few times and ubuntu dapper has the packages , just getting it all working is a diffrent story ;)03:06
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Thug-N-Mesince i installed kubuntu-desktop mozilla-firefox  its crashing 24/703:08
koshtoo bad that setup has neither security or data integrity as a priority :)03:08
imbrandonhmm i use firfox in kubuntu 24/7 with no problems03:08
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imbrandonhehe03:09
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imbrandonlamp is nice i do php every day on my dapper server03:10
jpatrickimbrandon: I'm making my own server right now03:10
imbrandonhell i even have qt/kde apps i throw togather real fast in php ;)03:10
koshlamp is a pos03:10
koshit just happens that a lot of people don't know any better03:10
imbrandonjpatrick: have you looked at the howto on howto forge, its ALOT more secure than the lamp howto03:11
imbrandonone sec i'll grab a link03:11
koshphp is a great way to create security problem and mysql is well ... well someday it may become a database03:11
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imbrandonkosh: depends on your setup , i've been using php/mysql on production and secured servers for years03:11
koshthe mysql part does not depend on the setup at all03:12
imbrandonits just like saying windows is insecure, yes it IS insecure out of the box but you can lock it down ;)03:12
koshmysql lacks fundamental database features, like inserting the data that you told it to insert03:12
v3ctormany large organizations are starting to use lamp03:12
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koshit will silently auto convert or throw away data03:12
koshv3ctor: lots of large organizations use a lot of stuff that does not work that well03:12
patrick_hmm, router died03:13
v3ctorand the latest version has most of the fudamental features that are required03:13
koshv3ctor: I have seen large places use access to store a lot of their customer information, it works pretty abysmally and causes a lot of problems but that does not change them using it03:13
imbrandonkosh: maybe if you are doing in in unconventional ways i've never run accross that problem and have some mysql dbs at many GB in size03:13
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koshimbrandon: insert something like Feb 31 into mysql and see what happens03:13
v3ctorkosh: that is a configyration problem03:13
koshhow is that a configuration problem?03:14
v3ctorit out performs informix and db2 in our environment03:14
imbrandonkosh: i do every day, but your code should check for errors ( ie feb 31 ) before inserting it anyhow , thats not the db's job ;)03:14
koshthat is the dbs job absolutely03:14
koshas are things like referential integrity03:14
koshand foreign key constraints03:14
koshif a  value is not allowed then the db should not store it03:15
imbrandonit will hold the data ( esp if i put it in a varchar 255 field, now if that data is "wrong" is not the db's problem03:15
koshif a columns is defined to store dates then it darn well better not store anything that is not a date03:15
imbrandonit does kosh, it will throw a warning03:15
imbrandonif you put feb 31 in a date field03:15
imbrandonno doubt03:16
imbrandonbut not in a varchar field etc03:16
imbrandonand the db shouldent care then, etc, thats like sayign becouse i dident escape my chars before i send the data to the db it shouldent act weird,03:16
reonWhere can I find Downloader for X, using Dapper. Could have sworn it was in the repos before ?03:17
reonUnless someone can recommend a good KDE download manager ?03:17
imbrandonthe database is not an replacemtn for good code ;)03:17
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Hobbseereon: prozilla is very good, but you have to compile it03:17
Hobbsee!prozilla03:17
ubotusomebody said prozilla was a download accelerator for linux.  It is available at http://prozilla.genesys.ro/03:17
Hobbseeotherwise, kget is a decent download manager - but not multithread03:18
reonHobbsee, i'd prefer something in the repos03:18
imbrandonjpatrick:  check out http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10 ignor that its for breezy it works perfect on dapper too, great howto for a server03:18
koshlast I checked there is no warning with a db, it commits or it does not, if it does not commit it can hand an error back, if it does commit then the data you wrote is there03:18
koshif mysql commits and then hands back a warning saying that some of the data was bad that is horrible behavior03:19
koshI have just had a clean up a project that has exactly those issues03:19
koshmost database imports have taken us a few hours to setup at most, this last one took about two weeks becuse of the crap quality of the data03:19
jpatrickimbrandon: great, thanks03:19
imbrandonpoint is kosh you cant blame the db for bad data or bad code, the code should check the data integrity it is trying to insert peroid03:21
koshI can blame the db03:21
koshif you have something defined as a date field and you can insert a non existant date then the db is broken03:21
koshoracle, db2, mssql, postgres etc will all handle that correctly03:21
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imbrandonso not accepting the date of feb 31 is broken ?03:22
imbrandonit SHOULD throw an error03:22
koshaccepting it is broken03:22
koshit should not commit the transaction and that was not the behavior I have seen with mysql03:22
imbrandonuhhh yea no one said mysql would accept that in a DTE field03:22
imbrandonthen your mysql was severly hacked inhouse and broken, becouse mysql has never done that as many years as i have seen it in production use03:23
koshhttp://sql-info.de/mysql/gotchas.html#1_1403:24
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koshI just did a standard mysql intall when I last tested that03:24
imbrandonthe look quite old, like + years03:25
imbrandon3+03:25
imbrandonand an old version of mysql 4.103:25
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koshwell the latest verison of mysql is 4.1 in kubuntu it looks like, so are you saying that if I try it right now I will not do that?03:29
imbrandonmysql is on version 5+ so i have no idea whats in breezy/dapper secure == compiled ;)03:30
jpatrickimbrandon: I have LAMP up and running, just have to get http://jpatrick.no-ip.org/ to work03:31
imbrandonkosh , i got to run , but i'll be back on in about 2 hours if you wish to continue ( or email me www.imbrandon,com )03:31
imbrandonjpatrick:  nice ;)03:32
koshah I found a 5.0 server version, so if I try that it will throw an error correctly?03:32
imbrandoni have http://imbrandon.sytes.net and http://ubuntustuff.sytes.net running on my local ubuntu server with lamp03:32
jpatrickmaybe Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.1.7 for ServerName, is the problem03:32
imbrandonkosh should03:32
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munzirHi, kde-based applications like konqueror and kwrite break any arabic writting. The text is no longer connected/shaped. what's wrong please? is it a bug on kde or kubuntu?!03:33
koshsorry no idea on that one03:33
imbrandonjpatrick: cool i'll help you config some cool stuff if you want when i get back ( about 2 hours )03:33
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jpatrickok03:34
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jpatrickI'll just poke this until then03:34
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_vicky..03:35
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eqisowmorning all03:36
jpatrickmorning03:37
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Thug-N-Meubuntu + kde = shity system03:38
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Thug-N-Mei just finish with kubundu-desktop for the 2nd time and firefox and all other application are crushing a lot03:38
munzirOn another system with same version I notice one font "DejaVu Sans" works but other fonts not!03:39
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eqisowmunzir, I don't quite follow. Could you be more specific?03:40
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pedroHello everyone again03:41
eqisowhowdy pedro03:42
pedroI am going crazy with my printer03:42
munzireqisow: ok I have an amd64 system with kubuntu. I installed a 23-bit dapper in a chroot in the same system. If I lauch kwrite in the 64-bit environemnt and wrote arabic text with all the fonts on the system, the letters are broken. If I changed the font to dejavu sans the letters are ok. If I did dchroot -d kwrite and typed arabic, the letters are broken whatver the font choosen is03:42
eqisowand why is that?03:42
munzireqisow: why what?03:42
pedroI don't want to give up03:42
eqisowwhy what was directed at pedro, sorry03:43
pedroI have an HP PSC 1315 All-in-One in Kubuntu Breezy;03:43
eqisowooooh, I rem you!03:43
pedroFirstly I couldn't print but I installed hpoj and hpijs and add the printer and it worked but it printed very slowly -about 10 minutes for one page-03:44
eqisowmunzir, I'm afraid I don't have any experience with chrooted systems :/03:44
eqisowright, that's where you were yesterday03:44
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pedroThen I probed with hplip installing with >aptitude< but there were no luck03:45
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pedrono device found03:45
munzireqisow: it's not related to chrooted systems actually. in the normal system I almost face the same problem03:45
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pedronow I cannot print anyway03:45
pedroany help please?03:45
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jpatrickwoohoo!03:47
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v3ctorwho do i complain to about the livecd installer03:48
eqisowhttp://jpoa.ecwhost.com/?page_id=2603:48
eqisowthat howto looks promising to me, pedro03:48
pedroI am going to see it03:49
pedroI have readed many howto and there is no way03:49
eqisowI'm sure you have :/03:50
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eqisowv3ctor, you could file a bug report here:03:51
eqisowhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs03:51
v3ctorty03:51
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eqisowyw03:51
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Nirvanahey all, anyone know why when I boot ub Kubuntu, it immediately goes into hibernation? But  when I close the lid and the setting is on hibernation, it shuts down? I get an atixp: codec reset timed out error03:52
tsdgeosNirvana: laptop?03:53
Nirvanayes03:54
eqisownah, he closes the lid on his desktop ;)03:54
Nirvanayeah I usually put the screen through the desk03:54
tsdgeosNirvana: mayeb some battery detection thing03:55
tsdgeosand he things you are running out of battery and that's why it quickly goes to hibernate03:55
jpatrickhi Nirvana03:55
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Pherwhat laptop is it?03:55
Nirvanatoshina m70 sr203:55
Nirvanahttp://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.costco.ca%2Fen-CA%2FBrowse%2FProductgroup.aspx%3Fprodid%3D10288715%26whse%3D%26topnav%3D%26cat%3D1675%26hierPath%3D84*1675*&ei=aPxdRLL8EIOg-gGPlbHsAQ&sig2=npzGs2Rb5G41gyRBhWr1EA03:56
Phersince older laptops have issues with ACPI and their bios was written to work with windoes better03:56
Nirvanait's failry new, I got it 2 months ago, but I guess it's old tech?03:56
NirvanaI have a 6 y/o laptop that runs hibernation/standby/suspend perfectly03:57
TheUniis there a way to specify an external browser in Evolution? I want it to use firefox, but i dont see an option.03:57
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NirvanaTheUni: is Firefox your DEFAULT browser?03:57
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PherNirvana: I dunno then03:58
TheUniNirvana: think so.03:58
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TheUnihow do i check?03:58
eqisowgo to system settings and then to KDE components03:59
TheUniah, nm03:59
TheUniyea. found it.03:59
TheUnithanks... was wrong.03:59
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Nirvanano prob04:00
NirvanaI was finding out where that thing was anyhow :P04:01
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eqisowNirvana, I'm not sure how to fix your laptop issue, but it would be helpful to add your model to the wiki, since it's not there04:03
eqisowhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsToshiba04:03
steveireI can play wma with kaffeine but not with azeureus. Is that normal?04:03
eqisowazureus plays video? oO04:04
steveireeh?04:04
steveireno wma. audio04:04
eqisowerr, audio. whatever04:04
eqisowbut azureus is a BT client. is it an extension?04:04
steveiresorry. I meant AmaroK04:05
eqisowlol, ahh. gotcha04:05
eulchen;)04:05
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eulchenyou just have to find the right engine using amarok04:05
eqisowindeed04:06
eulchenplay a bit with settings when kaffeine works codecs are in your system04:06
eqisowtry changing your engine to xine or gstreamer04:07
steveireI think I have both04:07
Nirvanaanyone know any good Java tuts?04:07
eqisowright, and you should be able to chance which one amaroK uses in the amarok config04:08
eqisowchange*04:08
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dansthi, i just realized that my spellchecker in kile is not working. it seems to  be necessary to have a "spell checking"-entry in systemsettings -> components... but there is non for me... how do i get this?04:10
eqisowrun kcontrol in a terminal04:12
eqisowit will be in the KDE components submenu04:12
danstok thanks a lot, why is it only there?04:13
eqisowthat's the kde control app, where system settings is the Kubuntu one04:13
eqisowit's a it messy tbh04:13
eqisowbit*04:13
danstahhh oook04:14
danstthanks a lot!04:14
eqisowbut you can add the kcontrol entry to your Kmenu though the panel settings04:14
eqisownp :)04:14
eqisowCOnfig Panel --> Menus, check "Settings"04:14
reoneqisow, what is the default location for kcontrol in the menu ? I have mine under settings04:15
eqisowI believe that is the default, it's not editable like other menu entries :/04:15
eqisowI usually move my system settings icon to the system folder to avoid it looking messy (ie, two settings icons)04:16
reonI also have search 7 indexing under settings which I think is from Kerry04:17
Nirvanais there a deskbar equiv. to GNOMES deskbar? That is the most innovative thing I have ever seen!04:17
eqisowdeskbar? I'm not following04:17
Nirvanahave you seen it?04:17
Nirvanayou'll piss your pants on how good it is!04:17
eqisowif you explain it I'll prob know what you mena :p04:17
eqisowmean*04:18
Pherthe taskbar?04:18
Nirvanahttp://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Screencast_of_GNOME_2.14_s_Deskbar04:18
Nirvanathe DESKbar04:18
NirvanaTHE deskbar04:18
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NirvanaITS awesome04:18
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eqisowthat is somewhat nifty04:21
Nirvanasomewhat? are you outta your mind? I think I might learn how to write a kuramba theme, and then make one with search like that04:22
Nirvanabut I'm no dev04:22
bipolarI find myself really wishing that kopete had a sip phone plugin.04:23
eqisowlol, I dunno. It's one of those things that has wow factor, but in all reality I don't see myself using04:23
eqisowit should have a keyboard shortcut instead of a box I have to mouse too though04:24
eqisowlike alt+space to use katapult (which will do part of what Deskbar does)04:24
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Nirvanayeah, but it's not the same :(04:28
eqisowlol, no it's not04:28
eqisowI hope KDE 4 integrates a lot of the neater stuff from Gnome, because I dont think I could actually bring myself to switch04:28
eqisowKDE is way to flexible04:28
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eqisowI mean, it shouldn't be hard to write a KDE front-end for that app, right?04:29
Nirvanaif you can dev. I can't do much beyond basic bash04:30
eqisowlol, nah. I meant for the KDE tea,s04:30
eqisowteam*04:30
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Nirvanaoh well, least I have GNOME installed :P04:39
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koshhmm I went to that url and I don't even get from that what it is04:47
koshdigg seems to have even poorer summaries then slashdot does and even worse comments04:47
Nirvanadeskbar?04:47
Nirvanait's like Google Desktop Search04:47
Nirvanalook at the screencast04:47
_markCan someone help me, I'm on wireless, I've installed my card etc it works, but, I have to use DHCP & not static IP.. else it fails & I get connect: Network is unreachable...04:48
koshthe sceencast looks like some kind of flash thing so that won't work04:48
koshI have looked at google desktop search and was not impressed in any way04:48
Nirvana_mark: kdesu systemsettings and click network, then choose your network and click configure04:49
Nirvanakosh: there's a 4MB GIF somewhere04:49
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_markNirvana: I've tried that.. I can only use DHCP.. else, I can't connect, I just get network unreachable when pinging my router....04:51
jeff_hey gangsters04:52
jeff_lol _mark is a programmer04:52
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jeff_if (gateway==dhcp){connection==possible}else{connection/=possible}04:52
TheUniis there any virtualization software for linux like vmware? that allows me to run windows?04:53
jeff_hows my syntax?04:53
NirvanaTheUni: Qemo04:53
NirvanaQemu04:53
_markjeff_: thats not funny...04:53
jeff_lol04:53
_markJeff_: is it you I talk to over MSN?04:53
jeff_i dont think so04:54
_markJeff_: ok..04:54
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jeff_jpatrick:hey04:55
_markI can't understand why, I can connect via DHCP but not when set Manually.. <_<04:55
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steveirewhen I select a song in konquerer, amaroK plays it. How do I configure so that the song gets added to the playlist, instead of stopping the current song04:55
steveire?04:55
jeff_jpatrick:do you know how to get missing printer drivers?04:55
Nirvanalol04:57
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steveirekonqueror settings > file associations > mp3 > amaroK settings. Change command line to amarok --queue . In case anyone else was wondering.05:01
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steveireWhy did that get underlined?05:01
steveireoh...05:02
steveire%.U05:02
steveireamarok --queue %.U (without the dot)05:02
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NirvanaI have a lexmark p915 printer, are there any drivers in development for it? Because I've searched and searched, but found nothing05:04
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steveirehmmm... amaroK doesn't seem to want to play mp3s from my fat32 partition. I have to move them to my linux partition. That's annoying....05:05
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reonAnyone here use superkarambe or know of HDD temp monitor applets ?05:05
DrNickRivierai'm trying to install kubuntu 5.10, but at the second stage of the installation the screen just goes blank at about 70% (a while after selecting the resolution)05:05
DrNickRivieramy screen definitely supports the resolution i chose, so that can't be the problem05:06
DrNickRivierawhen i reboot afterwards it alternates between showing the splash screen where it gets a few lines after loading the bluetooth stuff and then goes blank05:06
reonwhat gfx card are you using ?05:06
DrNickRivieraand starting stage 2 again where it complains that some of the packages are broken05:06
DrNickRivieramatrox g45005:07
DrNickRivierais listed as compatible on the ubuntu page05:07
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reonhave you tried to reconfigure the xserver ?05:09
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DrNickRivierayeah, did it from the recovery mode05:09
DrNickRivieraand when i rebooted then it was slightly differnt in that the screen wasn't blank, but just really distorted broken up colours05:09
DrNickRivierai also tried changing to a virtual console when it goes blank, but that doesn't work05:10
DrNickRivierawhat seems a bit odd is that there does seem to be a signal, because my screen doesn't switch itself off05:10
DrNickRivierait's just black05:10
squillaDrNickRiviera:have you tried ctrl+alt++?05:11
DrNickRivierano, what does that do?05:11
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squillaDrNickRiviera:switches to other resolutions - it worked for me on knoppix05:12
squillaDrNickRiviera:give it a go05:12
DrNickRivierawill give that a try, thanks05:12
squillaDrNickRiviera:it will cycle to another rez each time you press the combo05:12
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TheUnihow do i format a partition?05:16
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danstTheUni, r you sure you want to do this?05:17
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flapanehi05:18
flapanedoes anybody can tell me how can I change only the .mp3 files icon?05:18
flapanei don't like it05:18
danstTheUni, this depends on what filesystem you wnat05:18
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XVampireXHi, I'm having trouble with the sound drive, it won't let me use the sound drive in more than 1 application....05:19
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uniqtheuni: i suggest using qtparted.05:20
TheUniext305:20
r0xzTheUni: mkfs.ext305:20
XVampireXCan anyone help me with the sound drive, please?05:20
TheUnisudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdd105:21
TheUnisomething like that?05:21
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uniqflapane: right click, properties, click the wrench, now click the current icon.05:22
uniqtheuni: something like that. I still suggest using qtparted, it's like partition magic if you have used that before.05:22
XVampireX:-/05:23
flapaneuniq: thanks05:23
TheUniuniq: i dont have that. is it free?05:23
r0xzTheUni: yes it's free and FREE.  For a usb stick it's sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdX05:24
TheUniok05:24
TheUniso it's mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1 then, no?05:24
r0xzTheUni: and for a partition on your harddisk you would use mkfs.ext3 (or another mkfs.x)05:24
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=== XVampireX being attention whore: CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?
uniqtheuni: it's in the university repository if you use breezy. You can get it from apt-get/kynaptic/adept05:25
TheUnii'm using dapper.05:25
uniqxvampirex: hang on.05:25
r0xzTheUni: yes, but check check and check again that you have the right device in the command05:25
uniqtheuni: then you can install it from adept.05:25
TheUniyea, i just did fdisk -l05:25
TheUniuniq: it's not showing up.05:25
flapaneanybody got 3d with ati x800gt?05:25
uniqtheuni: it's there if you have the main repository.05:26
menno_ls05:26
menno_sorry...05:26
TheUninope  :\05:26
TheUnithis mkfs should work fine though05:26
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jpatrickcan someone take a look at: http://rothera.no-ip.org/ ?05:26
jeff_this friggin nickserv is getting annoying05:27
jeff_its always saying im not me05:27
jeff_then when i put in my pass, it comes up incorrect05:27
n3stormjpatrick: it's taking a bit05:27
jpatrickn3storm: my server05:27
n3stormapache is no resonding05:28
flapaneyep a little slow05:28
n3stormjpatrick: you haven't any open port05:28
jpatrickwhat?05:28
n3stormapache uses 8005:28
flapaneit says05:28
flapaneconnecting to rothera etc etc05:28
n3stormnmap told me05:28
uniqxvampirex: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4475305:29
jpatrickback to the conf05:29
TheUniok, the partition is formatted05:29
TheUninow how do i mount it?05:29
n3stormjpatrick: cherokee is very easy, fast and light05:29
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jpatrickthat thing I saw ages ago on a spanish site?05:30
uniqjpatrick: timeout.05:30
n3stormin case you want to give it a try05:30
TheUnimount -t ext3 /dev/hdd1 /media/new  ?05:30
jpatrickok, so I have slow server here...05:30
n3stormjpatrick: is pretty active nowdays and ubuntu org uses it in some places05:30
DrNickRivierasquilla: tried ctrl+alt++ as well as - and nothing happens05:30
jpatrickn3storm: ok05:30
n3stormjpatrick: is not time out05:30
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DrNickRivierai am not quite sure whether my keyboard works at that point though05:31
DrNickRivierabecause as i said i can't change into a virtual console either05:31
n3stormjpatrick: install nmap and use it "nmap localhost"05:31
DrNickRivieraand in the cases where it goes to the second stage and an error message about broken packages comes up return doesn't seem to have any effect05:31
jpatrickn3storm: sounds useful05:31
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n3stormjpatrick: what do you get?05:32
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jpatrickn3storm: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70360605:33
jpatrickmicrosoft ??05:33
OdyXjpatrick:05:33
OdyXPORT   STATE    SERVICE05:33
OdyX21/tcp filtered ftp05:33
OdyX23/tcp filtered telnet05:33
OdyX80/tcp filtered http05:33
n3stormjpatrick: samba05:33
jpatrickah right05:33
jpatrickOdyX: so I've got to get that05:34
n3stormjpatrick: Odyx is right, you have a firewall05:34
OdyXjpatrick: what I pasted is what I get from outside.05:34
OdyXn3storm: probably iptables.. :D05:34
jpatricki have no firewall05:34
n3stormjpatrick: check if iptables is actually running in your system, please?05:34
jpatrickhow?05:35
r0xzTheUni: put the right line in /etc/fstab and remount all devices ->done05:35
n3stormps ax?05:36
DrNickRivieraanyone else got an idea why my screen might be going blank during stage 2 of the installation and after a reboot when the system is starting up?05:36
n3stormjpatrick: what ISP are you on?05:36
n3stormtelefonica05:36
OdyXjpatrick: if you have X, use guarddog05:36
squillaDrNick: can you reboot in recovery mode?05:36
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jpatrickn3storm: yes05:36
n3stormmmm05:37
DrNickRivierasquilla: yes, i can, reconfigured xserver from there05:37
n3stormtelefonica might be blocking you05:37
DrNickRivieradidn't make any difference though05:37
jpatrick...05:37
n3stormtry to redirect your apache conf to higher port: 808005:37
DrNickRivierabut then again i didn't really change anything since it all seemed fine05:37
squillaDrNick: the screen should jump/show a flicker each time you cycle a rez - although it can be hard to tell05:38
squillaDrNick: and .. it may be "ctrl+alt+-" it's been a whiel - sorry05:39
jpatrickn3storm: ok05:39
DrNickRivierait didn't seem to be doing anything05:39
DrNickRivierai tried both + and -05:39
squillaDrNick:It is the least traumatic, assuming it works, and it does not happen after the install05:39
squillaDrNick:ah - hold05:39
DrNickRivierabut as i said earlier, i am not absolutely sure my keyboard is working at that point05:40
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steveireIs there a chan to discuss unix-like operating systems?05:42
squillaDrNick:I'm going to google etc and see if I can find something - I don't have that card , sooo ....05:42
jpatrickn3storm: if i can find out where05:43
squillaDrNick:one thing - could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file please?05:43
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n3stormjpatrick: where to change port?05:44
n3stormsearch "listen 80"05:44
flapanei can't see accents in xchat05:44
flapanedo i have to change utf coding?05:45
n3stormflapane: try conversation05:45
n3stormkonversation ;)05:45
steveireLinux distros all use the linux kernel (let's not get into a naming convertion thing here). BSD OSes all use unique kernels, correct? ie, there is a freeBSD kernel, an OpenBSD kernel, net- and dragonfly kernels. Is that right?05:45
flapanen3storm, another options?;)05:45
n3stormflapane: try ubuntu channels05:45
flapanewhy...05:46
n3stormthey more likely use xchat05:46
flapanei'm on kubuntu05:46
flapaneah05:46
flapaneok05:46
flapanetnx05:46
jpatrickda0n05:46
n3stormdnd, flapane05:46
jpatrickrestart05:47
jpatrickbrb05:47
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dansti am using ktorrent 1.2 and i thought that one of the older versions had more stuff to show: which seeders i connect to, more on the progress, ... but now I only have the main list and nothing else... am i missing an option?05:51
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federicohola alguien habla espaol?05:58
jpatrickn3storm: think it worked05:58
jpatrickfederico: #kubuntu-es , gracias05:58
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steveirewhat's the command to print my partition table?05:59
squillaDrNick: could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file please05:59
Massacrationgood afternoon everyone05:59
n3stormjpatrick: I can't see your server06:00
DrNickRivierahttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70363306:00
jpatrickhttp://rothera.no-ip.org:8080/06:00
Massacrationwhich icons theme are u using ?06:00
DrNickRivieraposted it in a personal window ;)06:00
squillaDrNick: thanks - reading06:01
steveire!partition06:01
ubotusteveire: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:01
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hastesaver!partitions06:01
ubotuGo to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.06:01
hastesaver;-)06:02
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steveirehastesaver: There's a short konsole command I can use to print it isn't there?06:02
hastesavercat /etc/fstab06:03
steveirefstab. thatnks06:03
hastesaveralso, cat /proc/partitions (but that's something else)06:03
squillaDrNick: I had to comment out "GLcore" , but then my card is nvidia, I also commented out "dri"06:03
steveireActually I don't think that's what I was looking for...06:04
squillaDrNick: could you also pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:04
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steveirefdisk is what i wanted..06:05
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steveiresudo fdisk -l /dev/hda that is...06:12
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DrNickRivierasquilla: there didn't seem to be an xorg log file06:15
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squillaDrNick: now that's weird - soz to make you run around - I'm fishing for evidence. If you boot into recovery mode and "startx" there must be a /var/log/Xorg.0.log file created, as in ther always is (hopefully)06:19
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pussfellerwhats up with all these lost and found files06:19
pussfellercan I delete em06:19
DrNickRivierai suppose as i just used the command line it might not have used xorg? don't know exactly what it is06:20
DrNickRivierais "startx" a command then?06:20
squillaDrNick:perhaps you could reboot and type "startx"? and then check for a log - we're lookng for (EE) in the log file06:20
_danstpussfeller: l&f files are files which are were broken (due to not shutting down correctly for example) so there might be something you will be missing...06:20
pussfeller_danst: would not that have been fixed by running fdisk06:21
squillaDrNick"startx" is a manual way of starting the X server - it will probably fail - but you will definitely get fedback in a log file06:21
DrNickRivieraok, will give that a try06:21
DrNickRivierareally appreciate you helping me :)06:22
DrNickRivierabrb06:22
_danstpussfeller: I think some things cannot be fixed06:22
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pussfellerya know if I shut down kdm from root, then I cant start it again, either as user or as root, untill I reboot06:22
pussfellersometimes anyways06:22
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pussfelleror even startx06:23
squillapussfeller: type"sudo killall -9 kdm" first06:23
hastesaverpussfeller, how are you shutting it down, and how are you trying to start it again?06:23
pussfellerusing etc/init06:23
squillathe kdm process still runs in the background and conflicts06:23
pussfellersquilla: you saying etc/init doesn't shut down kdm?06:24
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pussfellerlet me see if its still doing it06:24
_danstdcop ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 2 006:25
_dansthow are you shutting down your system? why arent you using halt or in kde: dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 2 006:25
_danst?06:25
squillapussfeller: I'm saying type"sudo killall -9 kdm" first06:26
squillapussfeller: if you get " no process killed" then I'm wrong06:27
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DrNickRivierasquilla: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70367206:28
squillaDrNick: looking :-)06:28
DrNickRivieracould the "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration." part be because my screen has a native resolution of 1280x1024 and therefore wants an entry with nothing but that?06:28
squillaDrNick: there's a discussion/solution for this here:http://forum.matrox.com/mga/viewtopic.php?t=1764506:31
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pussfellerhah thats funny06:32
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Drakesonhas anybody tried06:33
pussfellerroot can't start kdm, but  a user sudoing can06:33
squillaDrNick:need to load the agp driver for the mobo it seems06:33
pussfelleras root, it cant find the right pci bus for my nvidia06:33
squillapussfeller: good06:33
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pussfellersquilla, are there more than one xorg.confs06:34
Drakesonhas anyone installed jabberd? I had no success doing so. I just apt-get'ed, and tried to connect using kopete (localhost)06:34
squillapussfeller: yes - the one with "0" in it's name is the most recent06:34
squillaDrNick:you on the page yet?06:35
DrNickRivierayeah, just reading it06:35
squillapussfeller: the logs get rotated for "ease of read"06:36
DrNickRivierawould i just do "modprobe via-agp" and then try startx?06:36
DrNickRivieraand see what happens06:36
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squillaDrNick:in recovery mode try type "lsmod | grep agp" and see if you get a driver called via-agp or intel-agp or somesuch06:38
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DrNickRivieraok06:40
DrNickRivieraif loading it does work and x starts properly06:40
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DrNickRivierait would have to be loaded everytime ubuntu boots, right?06:40
DrakesonI keep receiving this error in /var/log/jabber/error.log: [notice]  (localhost): bouncing a routed packet to localhost from 13@c2s/8105E40: Internal Delivery Error06:41
steveireZfdisk06:42
steveire!fisk06:42
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, steveire06:42
steveirehehe06:42
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steveire!fdisk06:42
ubotusteveire: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:42
steveirebah!06:42
steveirecan fdisk display whether my partitions are logical/primary etc?06:43
dreamsguardiansi buenas!!!06:43
osh___In launchpad.net, can I just go in and confirm bugs that I've seen even though I'm not a devel. Also, is it alright to mark peoples bugs as duplicates if I've seen them before?06:43
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osh___steveire: yes06:49
steveirepray tell osh___06:49
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osh___steveire: last column. sais extended right there. or try qtparted. very verbose.06:52
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rUiSuhaving problems with patitions?06:53
osh___not me. ;-) today...06:53
rUiSuuse GParted, its a live cd that is like partition magic, XFCE06:53
rUiSujejeok06:53
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rUiSusi06:54
rUiSuso06:54
rUiSuwhats up every body06:54
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jeff_hey rUiSu06:55
DrNickRivierasquilla: ls mod | grep agp doesn't return anything06:55
rUiSuhi :)06:55
jeff_does anybody know how to get webcams working on kopete?06:55
DrNickRivieraand when i do modprobe via-agp i get the message, that via_agp could not be found06:55
rUiSui once tryed to install a program of kde for that, but couldnt06:56
jeff_?06:56
rUiSumaybe you didnt compiled that module06:56
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jeff_are you talking to me rUiSu?06:56
rUiSuyep06:57
jeff_how do i compile the module?06:57
rUiSuoh, no the module whas for DrNickRiviera06:57
jeff_:@06:57
rUiSuhe06:57
jeff_>:-O06:57
rUiSubut the program for taht is on kde-apps.org06:58
squillaDrNick:cool! then we would appear to be closer :-) what mobo do you have? and did you disable onboard graphics in the BIOS?06:58
rUiSufor webcam06:58
jeff_ok06:58
steveireI'm not having problems with partitions. Sure, it says beside the ext3 partition that it is extended. All the others can't be primary. How do I print which ones are primay using fdisk?06:58
DrNickRivierai've got a via k8t80006:58
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DrNickRivieraand i would assume that onboard graphics are deactivated06:58
steveireMaybe the id tells me that?06:59
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DrNickRivierai was running fedora 5 with exactly the same setup until yesterday, so i don't think that can be the problem06:59
DrNickRivieracould the problem just be, that for some reason the via-agp module is missing, ubuntu can therefore not start it and i'm having these problems?07:00
squillaDrNick:so - according to the page link I posted earlier ... type "sudo modprobe via-agp" and then "startx"07:00
squillaDrNick:yes - that is the idea07:00
rUiSumhm07:00
squillaDrNick:please try once again in recovery mode - and let me know?07:01
squillathe agp driver has to be loaded before the mga driver07:01
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squillawhich is loaded when X starts07:01
squillaDrNick:... I think :-/07:02
_danstab07:02
DrNickRivierathat's what i did07:02
steveiredoes id refer to the type of partition? Is anyone following this?07:02
DrNickRivierawithout the sudo, but for some reason the recovery mode starts as root, which strikes me as very odd07:02
squillaDrNick:? you mdprobed teh via-agp first?07:02
DrNickRivierayeah07:02
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DrNickRivieraand got the error message, that it couldn't be found07:03
squillatrue - it does - you're running as single user and fixing, which needs root07:03
squillaDrNick:?oh?07:03
DrNickRivierai actually modprobed for the intel one afterwards and that was loaded without problems07:03
DrNickRivierabut obviously didn't work07:03
jeff_anybody here know about kernel compilation?07:04
DrNickRivierayeah, to fix stuff you do need root, but i didn't even have to type in a password07:04
squillaDrNick:you posted the log file after that I assume?07:04
Ryoga85O_O07:04
jeff_this webcam howto says i need to activate the v4l module to support my webcam07:04
DrNickRivieraafter doing the modprobe?07:04
Ryoga85even my card reader works with kubuntu :)07:04
rUiSuyes07:04
squillaDrNick:yes07:04
jeff_gangsters?07:05
DrNickRivierathe via modprobe failes and the intel one worked, but didn't change anything when trying to start x07:05
squillaDrNick:sorry - after the modprobe and after startx07:05
rUiSui know about kernel compilation, but ive never done it in kubuntu07:05
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jeff_is the v4l module already activated in the ubuntu kernel?07:05
DrNickRivierathe log file is still the same, but i did post if before the whole modprobe business07:05
jeff_rUiSu: ok07:05
rUiSui think the source isnt installed by default07:05
squillaDrNick:what does lsmod | grep mga give?07:05
jeff_rUiSu: is there a way i can see what modules are activated?07:05
rUiSuimmm07:06
DrNickRivierawill just go and check07:06
squillaDrNick:it's possible (I'm very vague here) that you have to modprobe the agp driver before teh mga driver07:06
rUiSuyes, , but i cant remeber,,, its been a long time....07:06
rUiSuit was07:06
rUiSulsmod07:06
rUiSui think07:06
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jeff_ok ill try it07:06
squillaDrNick:so "rmmod mga" then "modprobe agp-intel" then "modprobe mga"07:07
squillaDrNick:and --> is the onboard VGA disabled in the BIOS?07:08
squillajef:lsmod | grep v4l07:08
jeff_squilla: ?07:09
jeff_squilla: will that add v4l to the thing?07:09
rUiSuno, it will see if its there07:10
rUiSu.. i think...07:10
jeff_lol ok07:10
jeff_i just did it and nothing happened07:10
rUiSumm07:10
jeff_i pressed enter, it went to the next prompt07:10
rUiSuthen it means you dont have it07:10
jeff_jeff@ubuntu:07:11
jeff_poop07:11
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rUiSuxD ?07:11
jeff_i have some things i dont need/want in there though07:11
jeff_i dont use any bluetooth stuff or sony stuff07:11
DrNickRivierasquilla: lsmod | grep mga doesn't return anything07:11
rUiSume neither, but imj planing to buy a bluetooth dongle for my future celphone07:12
squillajef:no - it'll tell you if it's loaded07:12
rUiSuhehe right :)07:12
rUiSuok, im out07:12
rUiSubyebye07:12
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jeff_squilla: ok, it didnt say anything07:13
squillaDrNick:modprobe mga will load it, but only do it after loading agp-intel07:13
DrNickRivierabut i want agp-via, don't i?07:13
DrNickRivieraseeing as my mainboard is by via07:13
squillaDrNick:hmmm07:14
squillaDrNick:it's the chipset of the agp we're after - and I really don'tknow07:14
squillaDrNick:did you read that page link? - I'm working from that07:15
DrNickRiviera"...you also need to install the back agp driver for the motherboard chipset. So for an intel board you would modprobe intel-agl, for via it would be via-agp and so on."07:16
DrNickRivieraso i would assume that i should load via-agb, as that is my chipset07:16
squillaDrNick:ja07:16
DrNickRivieramight just ask in #ubuntu whether anyone knows whether that should be included with ubuntu and why it isn't in my case07:16
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squillaDrNick:good idea - I'm running out of ideas - sorry man07:17
DrNickRivierano worries, you've helped me quite a lot already07:17
squillaDrNick:I believe we're well on the right track though07:17
DrNickRivierai was just reinstalling kubuntu again and again to see whether it would work at some point :D07:17
squillaDrNick:you could check which modules fedora loads as a clue07:18
DrNickRivierayeah, only problem is, that i've installed kubunto over fedora07:19
squillajeff: have you loaded any webcam swoftare, like camorama or ekiga?07:19
DrNickRivieraam running windows at the moment :(07:19
squillaDrNick:it happens - don't feel bad07:20
jeff_squilla: no :S07:20
squillajeff: usb cam?07:20
jeff_squilla: yeah07:20
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squillaDrNick:hey - perhaps the driver is called something else - google on google/com/linux for it07:21
squillawhat does "lspci | less" say about your camera?07:21
jeff_just a min, ill go get it07:22
squillajeff: the v4l driver is in the xserver-xorg-driver-v4l package in synaptic07:23
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mrfishhatdoes anyone know any good audacity like apps?07:26
danstmrfishhat: why not use audacity?07:28
mrfishhatim just wondering options07:28
squillaplayed with sweep?07:28
mrfishhati havent07:29
Snake__Can someone tell me why kmenu doesnt auto-update?? (Dapper)07:29
Snake__This is getting really old. It was a bug in 5.10 too.07:30
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squillafun - you can scratch on the tunes :-)07:30
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Riddellhi edward07:33
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edwardhi07:35
dansti just made my "system"menu entry invisible, now i cannot find the menueditor of kubuntu... can someone plz tell me the commandline name?07:35
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DrNickRivierasquilla: it seems like the problem might be related to the fact that i've got the amd64 version and driver support isn't great07:41
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squillaDrNick:ok!07:42
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squillaLoad teh 32 bit - I did and I'm on amd64 350007:42
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DrNickRivierayeah07:43
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DrNickRivierayou running breezy, or dapper?07:43
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DrNickRivieracause i am thinking i might go with dapper, mainly because i really want amarok 1.4 beta 307:44
pppoe_dudehi07:44
squillaDrNick: I have nforce4 chipsets onboard for sound and net and they're fine - Dapper07:44
DrNickRivieraand the final dapper is being released soon anyway07:44
squillaDrNick: the update downloads are about 30-50 megs a day07:44
pppoe_dudeanyway to get KDE to put a video icon for video files? (e.g. mpeg files would have a preview of the video, maybe one snapshot)07:44
squillaDrNick:and amarok is working like a bomb (David Gray in serious stereo as I type)07:45
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pppoe_dudeoh never mind i think i found that setting in system settings07:48
pppoe_dudeactually it doesnt give me an option to do it for video07:48
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DrNickRivieraare there any dvd releases of the dapper beta 2?07:50
DrNickRivieraor do you just get the cd and chose what apps you want yourself07:50
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squillaDrNick: Door #2 :-D07:52
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squillaDrNick: you have bandwidth?07:53
nico8481hi07:54
DrNickRivierayou mean to download it?07:55
squillayup07:56
DrNickRivierayeah, am downloading at 230k at the moment07:57
DrNickRivieraif the repositories are that kind of speed too it should be fine07:57
DrNickRivierawouldn't want to download 50megs of updates on 56k everyday :D07:58
squillaDrNick: theyre quick - there's probably a geographically convenient one close to you07:58
brandon_goog: totem is usually a frontend for xine, so i'm assuming that xine is properly configured if you're hearing sounds fromt otem07:58
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jeff_squilla: thanka man08:06
jeff_squilla: after i get that package, do i add it my sorg.conf?08:07
squillajef: package/ - xorg package? - the driver autoloads when you use the cam I suspect08:07
squillajef:got software yet? which camera is it?08:08
jeff_squilla: i should type "package/ - xorg package"?08:09
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squillajeff: use synaptic or adept to install it, once that's done it is built into your system and hopefully you'll never need to think of it again08:10
squillajeff: just install a cam software - camorama is easy, and you'll know if it's working right away08:11
jeff_it said it was already installed08:11
jeff_ok ill get camorama08:11
squillajeff: oops - sorry08:11
squillajeff: getting late for me08:12
jeff_squilla: ?08:12
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squillajeff: yo!08:14
jeff_squilla: lol08:14
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jeff_squilla: ok, ill try to start camorama and set up my webcam08:15
jeff_squilla: last time i tried this on kubuntu 5.10 it froze my computer as soon as i tried to start the camera08:15
squillajeff: coolio - and I'll make tea08:16
jeff_squilla: lol alright08:16
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jeff_squilla: it worked!08:25
jeff_squilla: thanks gangster08:25
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jeff_hey guys08:26
jeff_my friend is on a windows box, and she need admin privillages to dl stuff. is there any way around this?08:27
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jeff_!ping08:29
ubotupong08:29
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squillajeff:you're welcome :-)08:32
squillajeff:you a first time linux user?08:32
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jeff_lol kinda, ive been using (k)ubuntu since august08:32
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squillajeff:it just gets easier ;-D and more fun - spread the love I'm outta here08:33
jeff_squilla: amen to that08:33
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mrfishhatdoes anyone know where i could score a binary for the new vlc?08:39
mrfishhati cant get the debian packages to apt08:39
mrfishhatand i know not how to compile from source08:40
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_cathali have a iriver H10, it connects fine, what program do i use to browse the player and transfer music too and from it?08:59
osh___Who confirms bugs? It seems that all my bugs are "unconfirmed". https://launchpad.net/people/osh-nbit/+reportedbugs09:02
v3ctor_cathal: try amarok09:02
v3ctorclaims iriver support09:03
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OdyXosh___: everyone that CAN confirm bugs...09:17
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wojjanhallo how to uninstall SH??09:18
wojjanet.sh??09:18
wojjan??09:19
osh___OdyX: yes, but should they?09:21
rysiek|plguys, got a problem here with sound: when user A plays some sounds through ALSA, and user B tries at the same momend play something through ALSA, user B gets "Device or Resource busy". But when a single user uses a few ALSA and aRts based apps simultaneously, all is ok.09:21
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rysiek|plwojjan: you mean, like, uninstall THE "sh" shell, or "uninstall" some sh script (some_name.sh)?09:21
rysiek|plargh, he left09:22
osh___also, is apache-common a part of apache or apache2? wordpress seems to want to install it.09:22
OdyXosh___: well.. generally, if you have a bug, you first search if there is one.. If you find one, that is unconfirmed...09:22
OdyXosh___: and that you can "confirm" it on your machine...09:22
OdyXosh___: you're supposed to change the state...09:22
osh___OdyX: so any bugs i encounter on my machine i can confirm if i find them in launchpad. correct?09:23
OdyXosh___: yes... the state "confrimed" means "more than one person enconter that bug"09:24
osh___OdyX: right. thanks.09:24
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malte_hi, is it possible to install kubuntu dapper b2 without using the gui installer, using the live cd?09:26
malte_the thing is it crashes at the partition managing bit :S09:26
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g-hennamy bro just works in his kde (3.5.2) on his laptop (kubuntu linux breezy, kernel 2.6.12-9-686) and suddenly, everything hangs. so he cannot switch to a virtual console via ctrl+alt+f1 and even the lights of his mouse (the optical sensor) switched off. am i right that this is no X or kde problem, but a kernel one?09:27
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bretticushi, i was wondering if someone could help me get video working in firefox?09:28
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osh___malte_: yeah, thats a confirmed bug... :-)09:29
bretticusheh, ok09:29
malte_osh___: ok :( but is it possible to install anyway?09:29
mrfishhatcould i get some insight as to why my desktop selection box seems to be laggy?09:30
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osh___malte_: no, not with the livecd. get the installcd or wait for next betacd.09:30
malte_mrfishhat: no hardware acceleration perhaps?09:30
malte_osh___: oh, shucks.. when will the next beta cd arrive you reckon?09:31
osh___malte_: i have no idea.09:31
malte_then i guess ill just ddownload the install cd09:32
malte_thanks osh___09:32
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osh___malte_: that's what i did. :-)09:32
rysiek|plg-henna: sounds rather like a hardware prob to me09:32
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osh___g-henna: any reason you call yourself "hell"? ;-)09:33
g-hennaosh___: my name is G. Henna :-)09:34
mrfishhatdoes that mean hell?09:34
rysiek|plnot quite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehenna09:36
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ubuntu_hello09:51
ubuntu_im running kubuntu live latest version and i have a problem with my ntfs partitions09:51
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rysiek|pland the problem is?..09:52
ubuntu_they appear but i cant acces them, some error in et/fstab or etc/mtab when i try to mount them09:52
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rysiek|plubuntu_: you need to write the fstab entry09:53
ubuntu_pls tell me09:53
ubuntu_:d09:53
ubuntu_i have 2 hdd's09:53
rysiek|pl"man fstab" in console will tell you ;)09:53
rysiek|plok, let's try09:53
ubuntu_im really noob09:53
rysiek|pl2 hdd's, on which of them the ntfses reside?09:53
ubuntu_all :)09:53
rysiek|plok, how many are there?09:54
rysiek|plntfses, I mean09:54
ubuntu_509:54
ubuntu_they all appear09:54
rysiek|plok, what do you understand under "appear"09:54
ubuntu_i mean09:54
rysiek|plwhere do they appear?09:54
ubuntu_in storage09:54
ubuntu_system:/media09:55
ubuntu_here09:55
rysiek|pland when you click them?..09:55
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ubuntu_could not mount device , the reported error was : mount : can;t find /dev/hda1 in etc/fstab or etc/mtab09:56
ubuntu_this is the error when i click them09:56
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rysiek|plok, open the terminal09:57
rysiek|pldo you know how?09:57
ubuntu_yea09:57
ubuntu_i did run command09:58
ubuntu_and run in terminal window09:58
ubuntu_:D09:58
ubuntu_ok09:58
ubuntu_im in console09:58
rysiek|plgreat, first of all, tell me what version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu do you have09:58
ubuntu_(terminal)09:58
ubuntu_erm09:58
ubuntu_tell me what to write in console?09:58
ubuntu_for version :D09:59
rysiek|plI think you should know it without console ;)09:59
ubuntu_man09:59
ubuntu_i downloaded it from current dir09:59
ubuntu_dapper i386 dvd09:59
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ubuntu_3,2 gb09:59
rysiek|plgreat, so you have 6.06 beta :] 09:59
ubuntu_yea :)09:59
ubuntu_latest i think10:00
rysiek|plthat was my question about ;) now, let's do some hacking, shall we10:00
ubuntu_k10:00
rysiek|plfirst of all, try this:10:00
ubuntu_also remember im on a live session now10:00
ubuntu_i havent got it installed on hdd10:01
ubuntu_:D10:01
rysiek|plgreat, that way we won;'t mess anything10:01
rysiek|plok, here goes:10:01
rysiek|plsudo echo 'dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs defaults,noauto 0 0' >> /etc/fstab10:02
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rysiek|plafter that: sudo mkdir /mnt/hda110:02
ubuntu_bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied10:02
ubuntu_this is what i get10:02
rysiek|plok, try this:10:03
rysiek|plsudo -i -H10:03
ubuntu_ok im on root now :d10:03
rysiek|plthis should give you the root account10:03
rysiek|plyup10:03
rysiek|plnow:10:03
rysiek|plecho 'dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs defaults,noauto 0 0' >> /etc/fstab10:03
rysiek|plmkdor /mnt/hda110:03
rysiek|plshit, that's mkdir10:03
ubuntu_yea10:03
ubuntu_:)10:03
ubuntu_mkdir /mnt/hda110:03
ubuntu_:D:d10:03
rysiek|pland ls -l /mnt/hda110:04
rysiek|plyou should see your first ntfs partition's files :)10:04
ubuntu_still unmounted10:05
rysiek|plwhat was the error msg?10:05
ubuntu_same10:05
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ubuntu_could not mount device , the reported error was : mount : can;t find /dev/hda1 in etc/fstab or etc/mtab10:05
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_darksouli noticed somthing.. ati sucks, i got everything running.. but FPS sucks on quake4 - for linux, and the 3d accel seems to be slow in games10:05
alphalluxhello10:05
rysiek|plargh, man I am dumb10:06
rysiek|plforgot about: mount /mnt/hda1 :] 10:06
ubuntu_lol10:06
_darksoulso would nivida solve all my accel and FPS problems or is it a setting i need to change10:06
ubuntu_mount: special device dev/hda1 does not exist10:06
rysiek|plshit, another typo10:06
rysiek|plmy bad10:06
_darksoulubuntu_: try /media/hda110:06
yuuYup ati sucks, my next card will be a nvidia, too much problems with ati :p10:07
rysiek|pldo you know how to use vim?10:07
ubuntu_nope10:07
ubuntu_whats vim ? :)10:07
rysiek|plok, let's try it anyways ;)10:07
rysiek|plvim /etc/fstab10:07
ubuntu_ok10:07
rysiek|pland now CAREFUL please :)10:07
_darksoulyuu: yeah my ati card sucks.. it seemed fine on windows, but it really sucks on BF2... meh, the only thing holding me back is games on linux, but i figure that will all change when people get premission to port them..10:07
ubuntu_yea10:07
rysiek|plpress the "A" key - now you can edit the file10:08
ubuntu_unionfs / unionfs rw 0 010:08
ubuntu_tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 010:08
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ubuntu_dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs defaults,noauto 0 010:08
rysiek|pl(you should see "INSERT" in the lower left corner10:08
ubuntu_ok10:08
ubuntu_yea10:08
rysiek|plok, now move the coursor to "dev/hda1"10:08
rysiek|pland change it to "/dev/hda1"10:08
_darksoulyuu: but is nivida really better? thats what im wondering10:08
ubuntu_ok10:09
rysiek|plubuntu_: when you're done, press ESC10:09
ubuntu_ok10:09
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rysiek|pland then Shift+Z and again Shift+Z10:09
yuuIt's seems to have less problems on linux, and better driver10:09
treakathhey all10:09
rysiek|plyuu: yep, definetely10:09
rysiek|plubuntu_: done?10:09
ubuntu_yea10:09
ubuntu_im in root again10:10
rysiek|plgreat10:10
rysiek|plnow: mount /dev/hda110:10
_darksoulyuu: well that, and the fact nivida makes better cards then ati in genral.. so i heard10:10
ubuntu_ok10:10
rysiek|pland if I did not make yet another typo, we're home ;)10:10
rysiek|plls -l /mnt/hda110:10
rysiek|plsee your files?10:10
ubuntu_yea10:10
rysiek|plok, but you know, you won't have write perms on it, do you?10:11
ubuntu_yea10:11
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ubuntu_man10:11
ubuntu_i get could not enter folder mnt/hda110:11
rysiek|pl?10:12
rysiek|plit's /mnt/hda110:12
yuuThe problem is about driver, not cards. ATI cards should have better performance but their driver sucks, so nvidia cards which are less powerfull have better performance ( sorry if I make some mistake, I'm french ^^)10:12
ubuntu_yea10:12
ubuntu_thats it10:12
ubuntu_when i click on it from konqueror10:12
yuuIt's the same problem on windows too10:12
murph2481_does anyone else have problems with flash in firefox not showing text? the flash loads but there is no text??10:12
rysiek|plubuntu_: what's the error?10:12
_darksoulyuu: lmao good i love linux, just plugged in my scanner and it worked..10:12
ubuntu_i get could not enter folder mnt/hda110:13
yuumurph : do you have addblock installed ?10:13
ubuntu_i get could not enter folder /mnt/hda110:13
ubuntu_:D10:13
rysiek|plbut the mount command worked?10:13
rysiek|pland ls listed your files, right?10:13
treakathwhats addblock?10:13
ubuntu_yae10:13
ubuntu_but i wanna run them :Ld10:13
ubuntu_read10:13
rysiek|plubuntu_: "run"? like, they're programs?10:14
ubuntu_no no10:14
rysiek|plor just read them?10:14
ubuntu_music and movies10:14
yuuaddblock is a extension for firefox which allow you to block adds10:14
rysiek|plok10:14
ubuntu_cause i have windows programs/games :d10:14
ubuntu_so... :)10:14
rysiek|plit's something with perms, most probably10:14
rysiek|plso:10:14
rysiek|plumount /dev/hda110:14
rysiek|plchmod -R a+rX /mnt10:15
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rysiek|plmount /dev/hda110:15
rysiek|pland try after that, if there are no errors10:15
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Apage43Hey guys.10:16
ubuntu_same10:16
ubuntu_i get could not enter folder /mnt/hda110:16
Apage43This is retarded.10:16
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ubuntu_i know i am :)10:16
Apage43I can't play mp3s.10:16
rysiek|plubotu tell Apage43 about RestrictedFormats10:17
ubuntu_apage get xmms10:17
rysiek|plubuntu_: hmmm, gimme a sec10:17
Apage43Amarok > XMMS.10:17
ubuntu_maybe because im running live dvd :D10:17
ubuntu_i had uuntu installed 1 year ago10:18
rysiek|plubuntu_: that has nothing to do with it10:18
ubuntu_and there was a script10:18
ubuntu_that moutned my partitions every time i logged in10:18
ubuntu_with read only10:18
ubuntu_in konqueror10:18
ubuntu_it shows the details of the partion10:18
rysiek|plhmmm, can you open a second session of console10:18
rysiek|pland in the root session: umount /dev/hda110:19
ubuntu_ok10:19
rysiek|pland in the other (normal user) session: mount /dev/hda110:19
ubuntu_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$  mount /dev/hda110:20
ubuntu_mount: only root can mount /dev/hda1 on /mnt/hda110:20
ubuntu_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$10:20
rysiek|plubuntu: ok, I have got it, I think:10:20
rysiek|plin the root session:10:20
rysiek|plmount -o umask=0000 -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda110:21
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ubuntu_its working10:21
rysiek|pland konqueror sees and reads the files?10:22
ubuntu_yea10:22
ubuntu_how do i do for the rest ? :)10:22
rysiek|plok, so now we'll edit the fstab10:22
TheUnihow can i find out exactly what kernel i'm running and what gcc version it was compiled with?10:22
rysiek|plvim /etc/fstab (in the root console, off-course)10:22
rysiek|plTheUni: uname -r10:22
ubuntu_a10:22
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v3ctorcat /proc/version10:23
steveireoops10:23
rysiek|plgood one, didn't know that :)10:23
ubuntu_ok10:23
TheUniahhh10:23
ubuntu_im stuck her :d10:23
ubuntu_here10:23
rysiek|plubuntu_: the A key10:23
TheUnicompiled with 4.0.310:23
steveireI think I told konquerer to open everything with amarok10:23
TheUniinteresting10:23
ubuntu_did it10:23
rysiek|plgo to the last line10:23
ubuntu_k10:23
steveireIt tries to open directories with amarok now.10:24
ubuntu_hda2 3 and 410:24
ubuntu_:D10:24
ubuntu_and 510:24
ubuntu_:10:24
ubuntu_:d10:24
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rysiek|pland change "defaults,noauto" change to "defaults,noauto,umask=0000"10:24
steveireI lookd in settings in konq, but i see file associations, but not directorie10:24
steveires10:24
ubuntu_defaults,noauto 0 010:24
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ubuntu_whats wit 0 0 ?10:24
rysiek|plubuntu_: just leave it there10:25
rysiek|pl"defaults,noauto,umask=0000 0 0"10:25
rysiek|plthis is how the line should end10:25
rysiek|plgot it?10:25
ubuntu_yea10:25
TheUnianyone managed to get qemu and kqemu working in dapper?10:26
Infectohello10:26
rysiek|plok, now ESC - Shift+Z - Shift+Z10:26
Infectocan some one tell me how to bind keycodes to any aplication ?10:26
ubuntu_done10:26
steveireany idea how to reassociate dirs with konq, or any way to see a log of file associations for me to look at?10:26
rysiek|plhow many partitions do you have on the first disk?10:26
ubuntu_wait10:26
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Infectoi`v got a 176 key code and i want to enable sound volume up10:27
ubuntu_3 partitions10:27
Infectois this posible ?10:27
ubuntu_and 2 on the second disk10:27
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rysiek|plInfecto: LinEAK10:27
rysiek|plsearch google, I have got it working right now10:27
rysiek|plubuntu_: ok, so now:10:27
rysiek|pltail -n 1 /etc/fstab >> /etc/fstab10:28
rysiek|pldo this 4 times :)10:28
rysiek|plso that in fstab we have 5 entries for your partition10:28
ubuntu_ok10:28
ubuntu_vim /etc/fstab ?10:29
rysiek|plin a minute10:29
Infectorysiek|pl: you use this from repository, yes ?10:29
rysiek|plInfecto: I don't remember, frankly10:29
Apage43Is it fairly safe to go from breezy to dapper?10:29
rysiek|plubuntu_: mkdir /mnt/hda2 /mnt/hda3 /mnt/hdb1 /mnt/hda210:29
rysiek|pland after that vim /etc/fstab10:30
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rysiek|plInfecto: yes, from the repo10:30
ubuntu_mkdir /mnt/hda2 /mnt/hda3 /mnt/hdb1 /mnt/hdb2 maybe ? :)10:30
rysiek|plyep, sorry :] 10:30
ubuntu_:D:d10:30
rysiek|plit's late here :P10:31
ubuntu_poland?10:31
rysiek|playe10:31
ubuntu_romania here :d10:31
ubuntu_so same :D10:31
rysiek|plm'kay :)10:31
ubuntu_23:3110:31
rysiek|pl22:31 here, but I slept 5hrs today10:31
ubuntu_we have same time :d10:31
ubuntu_i slept like 13 hours :D10:32
rysiek|plubuntu_: ok, let's finish the job10:32
rysiek|plvim /etc/fstab10:32
rysiek|plA key ;)10:32
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ubuntu_unionfs / unionfs rw 0 010:33
ubuntu_tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 010:33
ubuntu_/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs defaults,noauto,umask=0000 0 010:33
ubuntu_/dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 ntfs defaults,noauto,umask=0000 0 010:33
ubuntu_/dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3 ntfs defaults,noauto,umask=0000 0 010:33
ubuntu_/dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 ntfs defaults,noauto,umask=0000 0 010:33
ubuntu_/dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2 ntfs defaults,noauto,umask=0000 0 010:33
ubuntu_how is it?10:33
rysiek|plperfect10:33
ubuntu_esc10:33
ubuntu_shift+zx210:33
rysiek|plshiftz... :)10:33
ubuntu_right?10:33
rysiek|plyep10:33
rysiek|pland... mount /dev/hda2 ...10:34
ubuntu_now mount?10:34
ubuntu_ok :)10:34
rysiek|plyup10:34
ubuntu_do u haev yahoo id ?10:34
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rysiek|plnope, although I have my mailbox on yahoo10:34
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ubuntu_ wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,10:34
ubuntu_       missing codepage or other error10:34
ubuntu_       (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,10:35
ubuntu_       instead of some logical partition inside?)10:35
ubuntu_       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try10:35
ubuntu_       dmesg | tail  or so10:35
ubuntu_yea u should :)10:35
ubuntu_when i do mount /dev/hda210:35
rysiek|plhmmm10:35
ubuntu_they are extended :D10:35
rysiek|plwait10:35
rysiek|plhow many NTFS partitions do you have?10:36
rysiek|plhow many disks does windows see?10:36
ubuntu_sorry i just realized the disks are hda5 hda6 hdb5...:)10:36
ubuntu_not hda2 hda310:36
rysiek|pllol, you know what to do ;)10:36
Infectorysiek|pl: i`v got problems with starting this10:36
rysiek|pland move the mountpoints too10:37
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mustafuI notice that Kopete has Yahoo! webcam support....but it mentions some program named Jasper, and when I went to the site, the directions are cryptic, to say the least...is there not a slightly more newbie-friendly method to the madness?10:37
rysiek|plubuntu_: mv /mnt/hda2 /mnt/hda... and so on10:37
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rysiek|plmustafu: yes, install WengoPhone :P10:37
rysiek|plInfecto: what are the problems10:37
mustafuwow, thanks10:38
rysiek|plmustafu: wait :)10:38
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Infectomay i msg to you ? me pl to :)10:38
rysiek|pldajesz, panie10:38
mustafuok ;)10:38
jeff_hey guys10:38
rysiek|plmustafu: Wengo is Yet Another internet msger with voice and video chat10:38
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jeff_does anybody know where to get a .deb of kopete 0.12 beta 2 for dapper?10:39
rysiek|plmustafu: I don't think it's Yahoo-compatibile10:39
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mustafuI see10:39
hetaumahi I have installed wine... how do I add it in Kmenu ?10:39
slow-motionhallo10:40
mustafuI guess I could try to build this Jasper thing and see what happens :/10:40
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fatejudgeris there any way to change the screen resolution of the login screen?10:41
ubuntu_ok i did it10:41
fatejudgerthat is, kdm10:41
ubuntu_they all work :D10:41
ubuntu_make yahoo id :P10:41
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jeff_gangsters?10:42
jeff_does anybody know where to get a .deb of kopete 0.12 beta 2 for dapper?10:42
rysiek|plubuntu_: we'll try ;)10:42
Sputnik8@jeff which is the normal dapper-version?10:43
ubuntu_how do i install mplayer ? :)10:43
jeff_Sputnik8: the dapper version available ont eh site is beta 110:43
jeff_Sputnik8: beta 2 is available for breezy10:44
Sputnik8hm?10:44
jeff_Sputnik8: what were you asking?10:44
erovubuntu_: add "deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main"10:44
erov"deb-src http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main"10:44
erovto /etc/apt/apt.conf10:45
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erovif you really want to try it but it may not work or break something trivial to fix.. but... i finally got it all working smoothly10:45
ubuntu_guys in adept it shows that i have mplayer installed10:46
ubuntu_kmplayer10:46
erovthe versions are also a bit older on that site but not too bad.. i'd suggest compiling or searching the ubuntu forums for a package link or .deb10:46
ubuntu_how do i run it?10:46
ubuntu_cause i dont have shortcut10:46
erovlook in menu->multimedia->kmplayer10:46
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Sputnik8@jeff_ I was just woundering ... and searching...10:46
ubuntu_it isnt10:46
jeff_Sputnik8: ok10:47
ubuntu_and in adept it says that its installed10:47
jeff_Sputnik8: kopete 0.12 beta 2 has a .deb for breesy10:47
jeff_*breezy10:47
Sputnik8@jeff_ hm... Did you try to compile by yourself?10:47
jeff_Sputnik8: ahh, i guess ill have to10:47
jeff_:-/10:47
ubuntu_i have reinstalled kmplayer from adept manager10:47
ubuntu_still it doesnt appear in mennu multimedia :d10:48
Sputnik8@jeff it might be that it is simple...10:48
jeff_ubuntu_: kmplayer is pretty spiffy eh?10:48
Sputnik8@jeff_ (read it somewhere but did not try it by myself)10:48
jeff_ok10:48
erovtry typing it in the console and if that works find it and set your own menu link10:48
ubuntu_yea10:49
ubuntu_i wanna watch a movie :((10:49
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erovvlc is a good player too10:49
ubuntu_it says its installed10:49
ubuntu_but i dont know how to run it from console10:49
rysiek|plgtg, cu all10:49
jeff_erov: eyah its pretty good10:49
erovtry 'kmplayer'10:49
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erovat a shell prompt or just search your /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin etc. until you find evidence (or not) of it being installed10:50
ubuntu_i did a reinstall10:50
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murph2481_anyone have a good list of keyboard shorcuts?10:51
erovi mean open a terminal and type it into the actual prompt.. as in execute a command10:52
erovalso.. kaffeine should work .. with some plugins and such.. make sure you have the necessary video codecs installed.. one way to get this all to work immediately was/is EasyUbuntu .. i believe10:52
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ubuntu_how do i install plugins in kaffeine ? to see avi10:56
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erovhttp://www1.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html10:58
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ubuntu_where do i save them?10:58
erovmaybe gstreamer too from apt10:59
erovuhm hold on10:59
ubuntu_i tryed10:59
ubuntu_nothing10:59
ubuntu_play with gstreamer10:59
erovhold on..11:00
jeff_im trying to compile kopete beta 2, but it says no acceptable c compiler when i ./configure11:00
erovjeff_: install gcc and the components that go allong with it11:00
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erovubuntu_: then put the codecs in /usr/local/lib/codecs/11:04
erov(as root of course (su do it from a terminal))11:04
jeff_erov: new error: c++ processor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check11:05
erovoh my bad install the c++ processor and related components as well11:06
jeff_?11:06
erovmany programs are a combination of c and c++11:06
jeff_ok11:06
erovcpp is the c plus plus compiler11:06
jeff_ok11:06
erovmight be gpp11:06
erovnot sure11:06
jeff_ok ill search it11:07
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osh___is it possible to see which package requires apache-common when installing wordpress? I don't think it should be there since apache-common is a apache1.3-package and I already have apache2 installed.11:21
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MunchkinguyWhat's the printer manager in Kubuntu called?11:30
iNikukprinter? not sure11:31
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BlissexMunchkinguy: use the Control Center11:33
MunchkinguyAh, it's one of those11:33
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MunchkinguyThank you11:34
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malte_hm11:36
malte_running dapper 6.06 beta 2 here, noticing that kde doesn't see when i create a file in ~/Desktop11:36
malte_that is, it doesn't seem to get updated and displayed as a file at all on my desktop11:37
canllaithDo you see any icons on your desktop?11:37
canllaithI had a little problem with kubuntu where I had to turn icons off then back on again in the KDesktop configure dialogue11:37
canllaith(right click on the desktop, configure desktop, behaviour, general)11:37
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malte_canllaith: hm, tried that now but still can't see any icons11:39
malte_now it shows .directory (i told it to show hidden files)11:40
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malte_but not other .blah files :S11:41
malte_must be showing some kind of cache?11:41
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Seveas@config channel plugins.bantracker.enabled True11:50
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LeeJunFanwow, been a while since I updated dapper on my kids computer, ~800 packages to update.11:54
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geno_Has anyone made XGL/compiz work kde window decorations here?<11:56
malte_isn't compiz a window manager?11:56
geno_There's a thing with kde decorations, I'm searching for the name of the package now11:58
apokryphosthere's a compiz-kde package, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't use kde decorations12:00
apokryphosI don't believe anyone's tried to get that work for compiz yet12:00
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