=== jjesse [n=jjesse@c-67-172-111-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:25] ooooooooh === mdke finally gets fop 0.92 to work === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-109-236-140.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jeffsch [n=jeff@dhcp561-1-99.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has left #ubuntu-doc ["gone_fishin'"] === jeffsch [n=jeff@dhcp561-1-99.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@c-67-172-111-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt__ [n=mpt@203-109-236-140.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-109-236-140.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@c-67-172-111-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac_shhh [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@c-67-172-111-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === onkarshinde [n=onkarshi@61.1.86.169] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:31] I have a concern about content of DapperFlight7 page on wiki [07:31] anybody in here? [07:31] yes [07:31] yes [07:32] what [07:32] what's your concern? [07:33] the text 'Previous Flight (Alpha Release) Tours' gives impression that Flight 7 is alpha release. Whereas there are already two beta releases done. [07:34] that's a good point. I'm not sure why this release wasn't called Beta 3... [07:35] I guess Flight 7 is not officially announced yet. May be at the time of announcement someone should take care of removing confusing stuff. [07:36] Matt Galvin (mgalvin) is the person who writes these announcements [07:37] I had thought of putting comment on the page. But then I saw that I should make suggestions here. === mgalvin wakes up [07:39] i am still working on it === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:39] its just a draft and is just a copy of the previous tour [07:39] is Ubuntu chaning from OOo to Abiword/Gnome Office? [07:39] no [07:40] ooo will be used since it is a full well known office suite [07:40] rob: not that I know. Is there a rumour to that effect? [07:40] robitaille, no just reading that wiki page [07:40] xubuntu has abiword, much faster [07:41] i only mention it there b/c it is new and available and is a possible alternative === mgalvin likes abiword better b/c of speed too :) [07:41] onkarshinde: please feel free to make suggestion or improvements [07:42] actually, I replaced my Archlinux install using bleeding edge XFCE4 with xubuntu today [07:42] IMHO, abiword shouldn't go there. Fspot is okay since it is quite good from what I heard and there is no better alternative to it. [07:42] i am ok with taking it off... i only mentioned it b/c is new since the last release... [07:43] these tours cover the incremental improvements between the releases [07:43] I wish there was a decent Rufus package [07:44] there is not a lot to cover per say in this tour so i was playing with the idea of mentioning additional new stuff like abiword and the others [07:44] mgalvin: you are right about incremental improvements. Just one question, will abiword, fspot and banshee be installed by default? [07:44] so much lighter then that other Java bittorrent client (mmm python goodness) [07:44] onkarshinde: no, they are not installed by default [07:48] onkarshinde: its 2am here so i will not be working on the page tonight, please feel free to make any improvements if you would like to [07:48] Looks like, abiword has moved to main from universe in dapper. Where as banshee, f-spot are still in universe. [07:49] abiword is in main b/c it is a "standard" part of GNOME [07:49] Ubuntu just doesn't install it by default b/c we use ooo [07:50] Ok. I am on dialup in my hometown and I don't want to put much of my time now. I will do it when I go to my worktown tomorrow (when I am on broadband). [07:50] mgalvin: Take good sleep. Good night. [07:51] onkarshinde: sounds good, thanks, good night :) === onkarshinde [n=onkarshi@61.1.86.169] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host86-128-54-253.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas_ [n=dean@host86-128-54-253.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:57] hi [09:57] anyone around? [09:58] there's a bug in documentation; wrong informations [09:58] if file has a write flag, it doesn't mean it can be deleted [09:58] just changed [09:58] ivoks: Which piece of documentation was this in? [09:58] desktopguide [09:59] line 138. [09:59] (i'm translating it) [10:01] ok found it, it's the directory that needs the write bit, isn't it? [10:01] right [10:01] other things are ok [10:02] just remove "or deleted" [10:02] file can be edited (period) :) [10:03] Ok, I'll mail the others and see if they want to break string freeze. Thanks for pointing out the problem. [10:03] np [10:04] btw... i really like desktopguide [10:04] it's nice to see we are trying to teach users some basics [10:04] like, what's which dir for, permissons... [10:07] one more thing... [10:07] Most things in Linux can be done using the command line, although there are graphical tools for most programs, sometimes they are just not enough. [10:07] isn't this missleading? [10:07] How so? [10:07] on first look, it looks like command line isn't enough. [10:08] or is it just me? :) [10:08] i'll split that in two sentences in my lang... [10:09] Uhm, it reads ok for me, saying graphical problems aren't enough. [10:09] s/problems/programs [10:10] yeah... it's just me [10:11] ok, thanks for your comments ivoks, hopefully next release we'll get more people to proof check before we release to translation teams. [10:12] out of interest which language are you translating to? [10:12] croatian [10:12] we are having huge two week marathon :) [10:13] Good luck, did you read that any 100% translated documents will be made available to buy in hard copy? [10:13] yes [10:13] though not sure what the shipping cost to croatia would be :) [10:14] well, i don't think it will be that much [10:14] we are allready ordering books from all over the world [10:14] :) [10:15] ahh cool. [10:23] i found another one, if interested :) [10:23] ivoks: sure. [10:24] You can also use wildcards to match one or more files, such as "*" (for all files) or "?" (to match one character). [10:24] this is all correct [10:24] but are we talking about files (then ? would be filenema with one char) or characters (where * would be numerus chars)? [10:26] Ok, that sentance needs to be made clearer... [10:28] yup :) [10:29] You can also use wildcards to match one or more files, such as "*" (for any number of characters) or "?" (to match one character). [10:29] would that be much better? 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Nice work on the translating :) === tuxmaniac_zzz [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:27] will the docteam be moving to docbook 5 or staying with 4.2? [02:28] Kamping_Kaiser: we haven't discussed it. But since Ubuntu's version is 4.4, it's unlikely that we will move yet, i suppose [02:30] i just noticed its out, so i thought i would ask [02:33] mmm. docbook. love it or hate it, usualy in the space of 5 minutes === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === arekmenner [n=scoot@c-68-62-100-115.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:44] Hello, chums. === theCore [n=Japaro@toronto-HSE-ppp4205637.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:53] Hallo. [03:54] Hallo === theCore [n=Japaro@toronto-HSE-ppp4205637.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === hybrid [n=hybrid@unaffiliated/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:43] Hey. [04:44] hello === theCore [n=Japaro@toronto-HSE-ppp4205637.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=Japaro@toronto-HSE-ppp4208471.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bojicas [n=bojicas@217.164.235.32] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=Japaro@toronto-HSE-ppp4208344.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:42] what's the url for ubuntu enterprise edition (or more info linkin to it)? === jenda [n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:47] highvoltage: What do you mean by enterprise edition? [06:48] dsas: the edition that will be supported for 3 years on desktop, and 5 years on server [06:49] highvoltage: Oh, that's the next release Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. [06:49] yep [06:50] i found http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases, which more or less answers my question [06:50] not exactly the easiest thing to find perhaps. === bojicas [n=bojicas@217.164.235.32] has joined #ubuntu-doc === hybrid is now known as Hybrid__ === Hybrid__ is now known as hybrid === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [i=user@69-87-143-56.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host86-128-54-253.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc