[08:05] <mbee> hello all :)
[08:05] <bimberi> hi mbee
[08:06] <mbee> h
[08:06] <mbee> hi bimberi
[08:06] <mbee> I just tried the live CD (6.0.6 beta 2)
[08:06] <mbee> looks really nice
[08:06] <bimberi> great :)
[08:06] <mbee> can you tell me were I can find gcompris in the menu?
[08:07] <bimberi> Applications -> Education (iirc - not on edubuntu atm)
[08:07] <mbee> atm?
[08:07] <bimberi> at the moment :)
[08:07] <mbee> oh
[08:07] <mbee> how come?
[08:08] <bimberi> currently using plain ol' ubuntu :)
[08:09] <mbee> I see. What I don't understand is why I can't start gcompris without opening a terminal console.
[08:10] <mbee> I thought that was the whole idea behind edubuntu.
[08:10] <bimberi> mbee: you should, is it not in that menu?
[08:11] <mbee> no, only the K-stuff and Tux Paint
[08:11] <mbee> under "Games" there is "GCompris Administration"
[08:11] <mbee> but that does not help either
[08:11] <bimberi> hm, perhaps i recall wrongly, perhaps it's one of the other menus
[08:12] <mbee> I searched everywhere ...
[08:12] <bimberi> ah, kk, unfortunately i'm not near my edubuntu install :/
[08:13] <mbee> thanks anyway :)
[08:15] <mbee> do you know were I can submit a bug report?
[08:15] <mbee> jira, bugzilla, or something? 
[08:16] <bimberi> just booted my install - how about Applications -> Games -> Educational suite gcompris
[08:16] <bimberi> ?
[08:16] <mbee> Oh, I feel so stupid.
[08:16] <mbee> thank you
[08:17] <bimberi> np, i would have looked for GCompris too :)
[08:17] <bimberi> !bug
[08:17] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:17] <mbee> although "Games" does not sound quite right.
[08:17] <mbee> ah, great
[08:17] <bimberi> ^^^^ (for future reference) :)
[08:18] <bimberi> yes i reckon an "Educational suite" would be better off under Education too
[08:19] <mbee> :)
[08:28] <mbee> ubotu: I consider gcompris being under Games being a bug. But I don't know how I can add a report. Must I have an account?
[08:28] <ubotu> mbee: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[08:28] <bimberi> !ubotu
[08:28] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[08:28] <mbee> oh
[08:29] <bimberi> mbee: but yes, you'll need to create a launchpad account to report a bug
[08:29] <mbee> oh, too bad I must go to work now ;) have fun!
[08:29] <bimberi> mbee: kk, have a good day!
[08:30] <mbee> u2!
[08:57] <cbx33> mornin all
[09:06] <juliux> morning
[09:07] <cbx33> morning juliux 
[09:07] <cbx33> ping highvoltage 
[09:17] <highvoltage> ping cbx33 
[09:17] <highvoltage> ERM.. pong
[11:50] <cbx33> quiet here today
[11:50] <lucasvo> how can I give a feedback to a spec?
[11:50] <cbx33> hmmm
[11:50] <cbx33> can you comment?
[11:51] <lucasvo> no
[11:51] <lucasvo> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/embedded-ubuntu/
[11:51] <lucasvo> I would like to comment this
[11:51] <cbx33> mmm
[11:51] <cbx33> don;'t think you can
[11:52] <cbx33> do they have a wiki you could comment on?
[11:52] <cbx33> oh, btw, if you have a second : https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuSchoolSupport
[11:53] <lucasvo> good!
[11:57] <lucasvo> mdz: ping
[11:58] <lucasvo> cbx33: what should I say about that?
[11:58] <lucasvo> I wouldn't change anything
[11:58] <lucasvo> it's quite good
[12:01] <cbx33> hmmm
[12:01] <cbx33> not sure
[12:04] <cbx33> thing it sounds ok?
[12:06] <lucasvo> yes
[12:07] <cbx33> g=ood good
[12:08] <cbx33> what baout https://wiki.edubuntu.org/BETTShow2007
[12:12] <lucasvo> yeah, it's good
[12:12] <lucasvo> are you going to bett?
[12:13] <cbx33> i went last year
[12:13] <cbx33> hoping to take edubuntu there next year :D
[12:13] <cbx33> by last year I mean earlier this year
[12:15] <cbx33> lucasvo: what about you?>
[12:16] <lucasvo> I would go there
[12:16] <lucasvo> but I don't earn anything...
[12:17] <cbx33> and sooo?
[12:17] <cbx33> you can get in for free
[12:18] <lucasvo> yes, but I need a train/flight ticket, accomodation...
[12:18] <cbx33> plus if you wanted to be on the edubuntu team you'd get in for free anyway........we'd get unlimited tickets
[12:18] <cbx33> aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:18] <cbx33> lucasvo: where do you live
[12:18] <lucasvo> CH/Zurich
[12:20] <cbx33> but don't think I'll be able to
[12:20] <cbx33> unless someone were to fund it:p
[12:20] <lucasvo> yeah
[12:24] <cbx33> !seen ogra
[12:24] <ubotu> ogra <n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra> was last seen on IRC in channel #edubuntu, 2d 2h 39m 14s ago, saying: 'ciao all'.
[12:25] <cbx33> is ogra alright? - he's been gone a long time?
[12:25] <spacey> looks like he had a weekend :)
[12:31] <juliux> ogra was at the weekend in wiesbaden
[12:32] <cbx33> guim: <ubotu> ogra <n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra> was last seen on IRC in channel #edubuntu, 2d 2h 39m 14s ago, saying: 'ciao all'.<cbx33> is ogra alright? - he's been gone a long time?
[12:34] <cbx33> how are you ogra :p
[12:35] <ogra> fine apart from havong a horrible mail backlog of 800 mails
[12:40] <cbx33> yikes
[12:40] <cbx33> ping: JaneW 
[12:41] <JaneW> pong
[12:41] <cbx33> pm
[12:41] <cbx33> brb
[12:55] <guim> ?
[01:07] <spacey> it seems coffee doesn't help today
[01:19] <highvoltage> we need supercoffe
[01:19] <highvoltage> e
[01:22] <spacey> thats madness
[01:26] <nattfodd> hi
[01:26] <nattfodd> I'm interested in the student control panel project for the summer of code
[01:26] <nattfodd> is this the right channel if I have some questions about it?
[01:35] <lucasvo> nattfodd: yes
[01:36] <nattfodd> nice
[01:36] <nattfodd> pygi told me about it yesterday
[01:36] <nattfodd> and I was wondering about how ltsp and vnc would be used in it
[01:37] <nattfodd> obviously, showing up the thing on the teacher's computer can be done using vnc
[01:37] <nattfodd> but where is ltsp used?
[01:38] <nattfodd> is it the "distro" the students computers are running?
[01:38] <nattfodd> and so it should ask applications from the SCP server on the teacher's machine?
[01:38] <nattfodd> (just trying to make sure I understood properly the thing)
[01:44] <highvoltage> nattfodd: yep, this is the right channel. i suggest you hang around a bit
[01:44] <highvoltage> nattfodd: ogra works on that, he should be popping in a bit later
[01:44] <nattfodd> ok
[01:45] <nattfodd> the thing is just that I must submit the application before 15 UTC
[01:45] <nattfodd> which is in three hours :/
[01:46] <cbx33> nattfodd: oooooooooh
[01:47] <cbx33> tight deadline
[01:47] <nattfodd> yeah 
[01:47] <nattfodd> but I guess it's still ok if I don't have feedback before applying
[01:50] <spacey> ogra is developing that yes
[01:51] <spacey> it connects back to the client with vnc
[01:51] <spacey> afaik
[01:51] <spacey> nattfodd: SCP server?
[02:01] <nattfodd> spacey: Student Control Panel server
[02:09] <spacey> nattfodd: i;m not sure it has a "server"
[02:10] <nattfodd> spacey: that's what is told on the TeachersPet wiki page
[02:10] <nattfodd> I guess that by server, they mean "master application"
[02:20] <spacey> ok:)
[02:22] <alexandros_se> Hello highvoltage
[02:27] <Petaris> ogra: ping
[02:30] <highvoltage> hello alexandros_se 
[02:30] <highvoltage> i'm in a rl meeting, so won't be very responsive
[02:32] <alexandros_se> highvoltage, no problems :)
[02:32] <Petaris> I am having an issue where upon first logon in to xfce the background is all screwed up, logging off and back on fixes it
[02:32] <Petaris> Is there anyway to dissable apci on the server?
[02:33] <Petaris> with a kernel option or something?
[02:33] <Amaranth> noacpi, i think
[02:33] <Amaranth> add that to the grub boot line
[02:33] <Amaranth> the end of that line
[02:34] <cbx33> Amaranth: yeh, or acpi=no
[02:34] <cbx33> can't remember which worked last time
[02:34] <cbx33> think it was noacpi
[02:34] <Petaris> at the end of the kernel line right?
[02:34] <cbx33> yes
[02:35] <Amaranth> whatever it's called, it's been awhile since i used grub
[02:35] <Amaranth> stupid yaboot
[02:35] <cbx33> heh
[02:35] <Petaris> is it acpi or apci
[02:36] <Amaranth> acpi, afaik
[02:36] <Amaranth> yep, acpi
[02:36] <Petaris> ok,
[02:36] <Petaris> let me reboot
[02:36] <Amaranth> Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
[02:39] <alexandros_se> highvoltage, if you see Helen King online tell her that I would like to speak with her :) I havent seen her online yet...
[02:54] <highvoltage> alexandros_se: ok
[03:30] <Petaris> Can anyone give me a hand debugging a smbfs mount issue?
[03:31] <cbx33> ogra: ping
[03:36] <Petaris> When I try to mount an smb share I get this: 
[03:37] <Petaris> 6584: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[03:37] <Petaris> SMB connection failed
[03:37] <cbx33> hmmm
[03:38] <cbx33> tried doing an smbclient -L
[03:38] <cbx33> on the host?
[03:38] <Petaris> its a windows host
[03:39] <cbx33> have you tried doing smbclient -L <winhost>
[03:39] <Petaris> hrm
[03:40] <Petaris> it asks for a password
[03:40] <Petaris> but not a username
[03:40] <Petaris> what password does it want?
[03:40] <cbx33> i think thers a -U option
[03:40] <cbx33> username and password for the windows machine
[03:41] <Petaris> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[03:41] <Petaris> hrm
[03:41] <Petaris> I wonder
[03:42] <cbx33> works fine here
[03:42] <Petaris> I don't need to add this box to the domain do I?
[03:42] <cbx33> nope
[03:42] <Petaris> hrm
[03:42] <cbx33> not with the smbclient command
[03:42] <cbx33> not got AD authentication working yet then?
[03:42] <Petaris> its not a priority on this lab
[03:42] <cbx33> heh
[03:42] <cbx33> it is on mine :p
[03:42] <cbx33> hopefully going to get aht working soon.
[03:43] <Petaris> it is on the new lab going in the high school
[03:43] <cbx33> I hope you're documenting all the work you're doing :D
[03:43] <cbx33> Petaris: whens that going in by?
[03:43] <cbx33> I hope to have an AD howto soon
[03:43] <Petaris> this summer
[03:43] <cbx33> when i get a spare second to myself
[03:46] <Petaris> cbx33: I rarely have time to do much documentation on anything I'm working on :(
[03:47] <jsgotangco> hey guys
[03:49] <Petaris> hrm
[03:49] <Petaris> I can't do a net ads join
[03:50] <Petaris> hrm
[03:50] <Petaris> I have no winbind either
[04:47] <ryan_rousseau> Hello everybody!  Are there any SoC mentors here that would be interested in mentoring a project aiming to replace KWordQuiz with a full featured quizzing system with a GTK interface? =)
[04:47] <cbx333> hi all, I'm now in YouthLUG's first session with the LTSP server
[04:47] <cbx333> 5 clients
[04:48] <lucasvo> cpp;
[04:48] <lucasvo> cool
[04:48] <lucasvo> :)
[04:48] <lucasvo> cbx333: btw, do you plan to translate the schooladvocacy pamphlet?
[04:48] <cbx333> yes
[04:48] <cbx333> we do
[04:54] <highvoltage> cbx3333333333333333: nice
[04:55] <cbx333> yeh
[04:55] <cbx333> heheh
[04:56] <lucasvo> what's the average age of youthLUG?
[04:56] <cbx333> 14-15
[04:57] <lucasvo> oh, cool
[05:00] <highvoltage> bye lucasvo and cbx333!
[06:05] <cbx333> What are your first experiences of Edubuntu? 
[06:05] <cbx333> When I got asked this I thought mmm I dont know, well after a bit of pondering I thought hang on there has been no crashes, no errors and I was cracking myself up when I was told it was running over a network on ltsp from a Dell D600 laptop and here it is with five of us doing everything we want with no lag and a wonderful graphical interface. Wow! and all the menus and selections are clear and explained! 
[06:09] <cbx333> hi Petaris_lab 
[06:09] <Petaris_lab> cbx33: hi
[06:09] <Petaris_lab> I can't seem to setup printing
[06:10] <cbx333> oh?
[06:10] <Petaris_lab> the cups web ui is asking for a username and password but nothing is working
[06:10] <cbx333> ah
[06:10] <Petaris_lab> I've tried the root pass
[06:10] <cbx333> are the machines on an activedirectory?
[06:10] <Petaris_lab> I've tried my first user
[06:10] <cbx333> and on a domain?
[06:10] <Petaris_lab> ?
[06:10] <Petaris_lab> no
[06:11] <Petaris_lab> this is just on the ltsp
[06:11] <Petaris_lab> and a laserjet 5n
[06:11] <Petaris_lab> with a jetdirect card
[06:11] <cbx333> what is the printer connected to?
[06:12] <Petaris_lab> the network
[06:12] <cbx33> hmm
[06:12] <Petaris_lab> what is the official way to setup printers?
[06:12] <Petaris_lab> throught the webui right?
[06:14] <Petaris_lab> ogra: ping
[06:14] <Petaris_lab> big problem with logoff of xfce
[06:15] <Petaris_lab> if you hit the "quit" button in xfce it gives the user options of logoff,restart,shutdown,hibernate
[06:15] <Petaris_lab> if a user (any user) hits shutdown/restart it downs the server
[06:15] <Petaris_lab> this is bad(tm)
[06:16] <Petaris_lab> I found this out because a normal user did this today
[06:16] <Petaris_lab> :(
[06:16] <Petaris_lab> cbx33: any thoughts on the printer setup?
[06:19] <Petaris_lab> ahh
[06:19] <Petaris_lab> its been disabled
[06:25] <Petaris_lab> ok
[06:25] <Petaris_lab> I think I have printing fixed
[06:26] <cbx33> nice
[06:26] <Petaris_lab> but that shutdown thing is really bad
[06:26] <Petaris_lab> brb
[06:32] <mdz> lucasvo: pong
[06:36] <lucasvo> mdz: solved it
[06:36] <lucasvo> mdz: I had problems with the wikipage about Embedded ubuntu
[06:36] <Petaris_lab> baCK
[06:36] <Petaris_lab> er, back
[07:03] <Petaris> Is there any way to modify what is shown on the xfce quit dialog?
[07:16] <LaserJock> cbx33: around?
[07:43] <cbx33> LaserJock: hi
[07:44] <LaserJock> cbx33: did you have a chance to work on ESA over the weekend?
[07:44] <cbx33> a little, did you see what I've done?
[07:45] <cbx33> I just ported across the apps
[07:45] <cbx33> I'll proably do a lot tomorrow
[07:45] <cbx33> got a prety funny day, work wise
[07:45] <cbx33> shoud get a lot of time
[07:46] <cbx33> ping ogra
[08:35] <Burgwork> ogra, you around?
[08:47] <cbx33> boo
[08:48] <cbx33> hi LaserJock 
[08:48] <cbx33> sorry about dissapearing on ya
[08:48] <cbx33> did that make sense what I said
[08:48] <cbx33> I have a bit of time now
[08:48] <cbx33> how about you?
[08:49] <cbx33> ping Bluekuja 
[08:49] <cbx33> ping ogra 
[08:49] <Bluekuja> oi pete
[08:49] <LaserJock> cbx33: sorta busy but I can float in and out
[08:49] <cbx33> ok np
[08:49] <cbx33> hi Bluekuja 
[08:49] <Bluekuja> hi man
[08:49] <Bluekuja> news for the doc'
[08:49] <Bluekuja> ?
[08:50] <cbx33> in #edubuntu-doc
[08:52] <cbx33> ok
[08:53] <cbx33> we'll look into the common questions section
[08:54] <cbx33> Bluekuja, any more ideas for common questions?
[08:54] <Bluekuja> mmm... let me check existing ones
[08:54] <LaserJock> the other thing is that it would be good to somewhat categorize the edu apps by their purpose
[08:54] <cbx33> We need to modify the Localication part
[08:54] <cbx33> seeing as it refers to the doc as a website
[08:54] <cbx33> and it will be a printed leaflet
[08:55] <LaserJock> yeah, I wasn't sure what to do with that
[08:55] <cbx33> LaserJock, yes, totally
[08:55] <cbx33> Well, Bluekuja, if our intention is to translate,
[08:55] <Bluekuja> cbx33: another common question that we can add its if this software is free and related things
[08:55] <LaserJock> cbx33: and is there a way to put some sort of age range on the apps? or are they more or less all the same
[08:55] <Bluekuja> but saying that is open source answer to this
[08:55] <cbx33> should we just produce the doc in all the languages and mention that it's available in other lanuages?
[08:55] <LaserJock> Bluekuja: that is pretty well handled in the beginning
[08:56] <cbx33> LaserJock, I thought of the age range thing too
[08:56] <Bluekuja> yeah, jordan exactly
[08:56] <Bluekuja> well another common question
[08:56] <LaserJock> what about LTSP related questions, like "what does it do for me?"
[08:56] <Bluekuja> is can i read this doc in my language
[08:56] <cbx33> LaserJock, true
[08:56] <Bluekuja> we have to provide some translations
[08:56] <cbx33> Bluekuja, ^^^^
[08:56] <Bluekuja> ^^ :)
[08:56] <LaserJock> what about "How is Edubuntu related to Ubuntu?"
[08:57] <Bluekuja> yeah nice
[08:57] <cbx33> once we are happy with the text and freeze it you could start translating if you like
[08:57] <cbx33> LaserJock, nice question
[08:57] <cbx33> I'll add it
[08:57] <Bluekuja> ok ill put it on italian mailing list so i can get some help
[08:58] <LaserJock> what about "Is more software available for installing on Edubuntu?", put in Universe and the number of packages
[08:58] <cbx33> so what's the decision about the locoteams section
[08:58] <Bluekuja> pete leave that section
[08:58] <Bluekuja> is usefull
[08:58] <cbx33> LaserJock, yes, I tried to cover that at some point by mentioning how many packages were in universe
[08:58] <LaserJock> I think it might be better to either link to a wiki page or condense the loco info
[08:59] <LaserJock> it isn't really that much and it takes a lot of space
[08:59] <cbx33> I agree LaserJock 
[08:59] <Bluekuja> well it points to basicall infos
[08:59] <cbx33> It's needed
[08:59] <cbx33> but maybe not presented in that way
[08:59] <LaserJock> Bluekuja: the problem is that it says "there isn't that much yet" which isn't really a positive thing
[08:59] <cbx33> could have a short section saying, already there are locoteams for ......... you can help by ........ 
[09:00] <cbx33> what do you think
[09:00] <LaserJock> cbx33: sounds good, encourage people to get involved
[09:00] <cbx33> Bluekuja, ?
[09:01] <crimsun> I would couch them in the context of "specialised" assistance
[09:01] <crimsun> that way there's no stigma around there being so few
[09:01] <cbx33> yes
[09:01] <crimsun> instead, make it a positive thing
[09:02] <LaserJock> crimsun: yeah, that's what I'm trying to shoot for.
[09:02] <LaserJock> I think it is also worth pointing out the Ubuntu loco teams.
[09:03] <cbx33> hmmm
[09:03] <LaserJock> for problems not specific to Edubuntu there is a lot of support out there
[09:03] <cbx33> there are more of those?
[09:03] <cbx33> yes
[09:03] <cbx33> I suppose we should expand a little more on that
[09:03] <cbx33> as edubuntu is really just a customisation of ubuntu
[09:04] <LaserJock> cbx33: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[09:05] <cbx33> WOW
[09:05] <LaserJock> yeah, that's what I mean
[09:06] <LaserJock> and Edubuntu users have access to those loco teams too, they just are specialized to Edubuntu
[09:06] <cbx33> yes
[09:07] <LaserJock> s/are/aren't/
[09:07] <cbx33> we could list all of them, in a line, just to show off :p
[09:09] <cbx33> Bluekuja, you around?
[09:10] <cbx33> LaserJock, what about categorising them in sections ike
[09:10] <cbx33> language, painting, maths
[09:10] <cbx33> science
[09:11] <LaserJock> cbx33: but that is a dynamic list, I think a link to the wiki page and saying something like "there are over X localization teams for Ubuntu and Y team specific to Edubuntu"
[09:11] <LaserJock> cbx33: sounds good
[09:11] <cbx33> I'll get started on that
[09:19] <cbx33> LaserJock, ok they are now all rearranged
[09:25] <LaserJock> cbx33: looking good
[09:25] <LaserJock> cbx33: can I tweak them? :-)
[09:29] <cbx33> sure
[09:29] <cbx33> hi Bluekuja 
[09:29] <cbx33> what happened ?
[09:29] <Bluekuja> sorry pete
[09:29] <Bluekuja> i had some problems
[09:29] <Bluekuja> with server connection
[09:29] <Bluekuja> news?
[09:29] <cbx33> um, take a look
[09:30] <cbx33> LaserJock, is just editing a few changes I made
[09:30] <cbx33> I just rearranged some of the apps into subject order
[09:30] <Bluekuja> ok great
[09:32] <cbx33> we talked a little more about the locoteams section
[09:33] <cbx33> saying that we can incorporate the ubuntu locoteams too
[09:33] <cbx33> cbx33: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[09:33] <cbx33> LaserJock, suggested somethign like but that is a dynamic list, I think a link to the wiki page and saying something like "there are over X localization teams for Ubuntu and Y team specific to Edubuntu
[09:34] <cbx33> did you want to have a go at that section?
[09:34] <Bluekuja> yep
[09:35] <cbx33> LaserJock, did you say you have done some docbook too?
[09:38] <cbx33> Bluekuja, any mail news?
[09:38] <cbx33> :p
[09:39] <Bluekuja> nope :(
[09:39] <Bluekuja> no news from matt
[09:39] <cbx33> :'(
[09:39] <LaserJock> just a sec
[09:45] <LaserJock> cbx33: ok, reload
[09:45] <LaserJock> cbx33: I can help with the docbook
[09:46] <LaserJock> we are still working on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy/LaserJock right?
[09:46] <cbx33> LaserJock, yes
[09:47] <cbx33> LaserJock, all i'd need is a little template of where to start
[09:47] <cbx33> after that I can do the rest
[09:49] <cbx33> LaserJock, looks a lot better
[09:49] <LaserJock> cbx33: notice that I added, Xaos to the "Drawing" section. It doesn't have much of a description
[09:50] <cbx33> yes
[09:50] <cbx33> I noticed
[09:51] <LaserJock> I think that perhaps we should try to reword the app descriptions a bit. Some of them are long and you don't need to have the name of the app twice when bulleted
[09:52] <cbx33> true
[09:52] <cbx33> LaserJock, how long would it take to give me a really simple small docbook tmeplate?
[09:54] <LaserJock> heh, if wiki.u.c ran moin 1.5 we could docbook straigh from the wiki
[09:54] <cbx33> oooh really?
[09:54] <cbx33> that'd be nice
[09:54] <cbx33> LaserJock, what about setting up a wiki ourselves
[09:54] <cbx33> or do you think they'll upgrade soon?
[09:55] <LaserJock> It wouldn't be worth setting up our own. I was looking for one I could "borrow" for a sec
[09:56] <cbx33> hehe
[09:56] <cbx33> i was thinking of setting a moin wiki up
[09:56] <LaserJock> I have a personal wiki on my iMac but it is 1.3 :(
[09:56] <cbx33> i like it better than media wiki
[09:57] <LaserJock> actually, maybe I could use moin's sandbox
[09:57] <cbx33> LaserJock, is it advantageous to have it "online"
[09:57] <cbx33> or could I run it on a desktop wiki?
[09:58] <cbx33> I mean would having it on a server help in our collaboration?
[10:01] <cbx33> what do you think?
[10:02] <Petaris> later all
[10:03] <LaserJock> cbx33: no, doing it on the Ubuntu wiki is good. I got some docbook now
[10:03] <cbx33> ok nice
[10:03] <cbx33> chuck it in something like EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy/Template
[10:15] <cbx33> Bluekuja, you around?
[10:16] <Bluekuja> yep a little less busy but ok
[10:16] <Bluekuja> tell me
[10:16] <cbx33> what ya been busy on?
[10:16] <cbx33> more bugs?
[10:16] <Bluekuja> working on gnome stuff
[10:16] <Bluekuja> website
[10:16] <cbx33> ah, what ya working on?
[10:17] <cbx33> on gnome?
[10:17] <Bluekuja> the gnome website
[10:17] <cbx33> ahhh cool
[10:17] <Bluekuja> there will be a new re-designed website
[10:17] <cbx33> I was hoping highvoltage would be here 
[10:17] <Bluekuja> i havent seen him today
[10:18] <cbx33> i saw him very early on
[10:18] <Bluekuja> oh
[10:18] <Bluekuja> news for the page?
[10:18] <cbx33> not really
[10:18] <cbx33> did u try the loco team sectoin
[10:19] <Bluekuja> you mean wiki page?
[10:19] <cbx33> yes
[10:19] <Bluekuja> official one /LocoTeams?
[10:20] <Bluekuja> or locoteams paragraph
[10:21] <Bluekuja> cbx33?
[10:21] <cbx33> paragraph
[10:21] <Bluekuja> ah yes
[10:22] <Bluekuja> i need to remake it 
[10:22] <Bluekuja> more linear
[10:22] <Bluekuja> and simple
[10:24] <cbx33> yes
[10:24] <cbx33> and refer to the ubuntu locoteams too
[10:24] <Bluekuja> yep
[10:24] <cbx33> LaserJock, when do you think we should start docbook conversion? - once approved by ML?
[10:34] <LaserJock> cbx33: I'll have it in a sec ;-)
[10:34] <cbx33> np
[10:53] <LaserJock> cbx33: wget http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/ubuntu/esa.xml
[10:53] <LaserJock> cbx33: and yelp esa.xml
[10:54] <cbx33> LaserJock, i didn;t mean for you to do the whole bloody thing :p
[10:54] <LaserJock> well ...
[10:55] <cbx33> crapped out in fedora...yelp did nt like it
[10:55] <LaserJock> hmm, works on Dapper
[10:56] <cbx33> I'll try it on breezy later
[11:01] <LaserJock> cbx33: anyway, I did everything but the loco list because it is a pain to do it in docbook the way it is done on the wiki and I think we are going to work on it anyway
[11:01] <cbx33> yes
[11:02] <cbx33> seriously though LaserJock I was goign to do that tomrorow
[11:02] <cbx33> on the way to work
[11:02] <LaserJock> well, look at it and fix any problems ;-) The indentation is bad
[11:03] <cbx33> I will I'll try it on yelp on breezy
[11:04] <LaserJock> I'll see about getting it put in the doc team repo so  we can all have some fun :-)
[11:04] <cbx33> jsgotcango said as soon as it was in docbook format he'd give me svn rights to upload it
[11:04] <Bluekuja> pete, just talk with him
[11:05] <LaserJock> cbx33: well, that will actually take a while.
[11:05] <Bluekuja> he will be available tomorrow
[11:05] <cbx33> oh?
[11:05] <LaserJock> cbx33: currently svn access isn't controlled by the doc team so it can take some time
[11:06] <cbx33> ah i see
[11:08] <LaserJock> so it really depends on how busy elmo is
[11:09] <cbx33> ah...back to elmo again
[11:09] <cbx33> :p
[11:10] <cbx33> Bluekuja, and i are waiting for our emails to be fixed by elmo, he's super busy :p
[11:10] <Bluekuja> cbx33: heheeh
[11:10] <Bluekuja> cbx33:  elmo is really busy
[11:10] <LaserJock> elmo runs everything ;-)
[11:10] <Bluekuja> hehe yes
[11:11] <cbx33> everything??? :p
[11:11] <LaserJock> cbx33: pretty much, he also runs most of Debian too
[11:11] <LaserJock> :-)
[11:11] <cbx33> bloody ell
[11:12] <Bluekuja> cbx33: lol
[11:12] <LaserJock> he is the Debian ftp master
[11:12] <cbx33> i just wish I'd gotten into linux ealier
[11:12] <LaserJock> cbx33: ok, so are you ok with me putting the docbookized version in the doc team repo?
[11:13] <cbx33> I so could have you know
[11:13] <cbx33> when i was like 13
[11:13] <cbx33> I'd be soooo damn good now:p
[11:13] <LaserJock> cbx33: same here
[11:13] <cbx33> but we gotta work with what we got
[11:13] <cbx33> and we're all doing good
[11:14] <LaserJock> cbx33: ok, I'm going to put it in, last chance to stop me
[11:14] <LaserJock> :-)
[11:14] <cbx33> put it in where?
[11:14] <cbx33> the svn?
[11:14] <LaserJock> yes
[11:14] <cbx33> ya bugger :p
[11:14] <cbx33> hehe
[11:14] <cbx33> go ahead
[11:14] <cbx33> :D
[11:14] <cbx33> thumbs up from me
[11:14] <cbx33> Bluekuja, ?
[11:14] <Bluekuja> yes?
[11:15] <cbx33> you happy?
[11:15] <Bluekuja> with putting it in the repo?
[11:15] <cbx33> I cant wait for the artwork to be confirmed so we can start the frackin screenshots
[11:15] <cbx33> yes
[11:15] <Bluekuja> okie
[11:15] <Bluekuja> its ok for me
[11:16] <cbx33> seen the ltest edubuntu wallpaper lisa worked on?
[11:16] <cbx33> www.progbox.co.uk/33.jpg
[11:16] <Bluekuja> great
[11:16] <Bluekuja> i have to go pete
[11:16] <Bluekuja> see you tomorrow
[11:17] <Bluekuja> with news
[11:17] <Bluekuja> hehe
[11:17] <cbx33> ok
[11:17] <cbx33> nn Bluekuja 
[11:17] <Bluekuja> cya jordan
[11:17] <Bluekuja> cya pete
[11:19] <LaserJock> cbx33: very nice
[11:19] <cbx33> :D
[11:23] <cbx33> brb
[11:43] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[11:47] <LaserJock> hi
[11:51] <LaserJock> cbx33: I commited it. If you grab the doc team repo it is under edubuntu/SchoolAdvocacy
[11:51] <LaserJock> cbx33: and if you run make esa in the edubuntu dir then you'll get an HTML version in build/edubuntu/school-advocacy