[12:04] <geno_> ok
[12:04] <geno_> Thanks
[12:04] <geno_> I,ve jsut found a guide for kde xgl :D
[12:05] <geno_> I had tried with the Korooraa live CD and it worked perfectly
[12:05] <geno_> Actually the guide is outdated...
[12:10] <malte_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=845077 <- compiz and kde
[12:34] <slow-motion> n8
[12:37] <Seveas> @config channel plugins.changuard.enabled True
[12:39] <billytwowilly> is there a good open source video editor that can deal with avis? out there? for kde?
[12:41] <Parkotron> Does anyone know where amaroK stores its podcasts?
[12:43] <majorgeek> erm
[12:43] <majorgeek> How would I go about getting unbanned from #ubuntu ?
[12:43] <majorgeek> I pasted a single line from my fstab and the bot banned me
[12:44] <billytwowilly> wait a couple days and it should happen automagically.
[12:44] <majorgeek> I don't have a couple of days lol
[12:44] <majorgeek> I need support
[12:44] <billytwowilly> try #ubuntu+1?
[12:45] <majorgeek> I got unbanned =D
[12:46] <billytwowilly> yay...
[12:53] <mpmc> How do I execute a command on boot?
[12:58] <Ahmuck> how does one enable colors for the console for different file types, such as directories, binaries, etc.
[01:01] <crimsun> Ahmuck: it's generally done automagically by a user's shell config
[01:01] <HymnToLife> I think it's enabled by default
[01:01] <crimsun> Ahmuck: for instance, if you use bash, it's enabled by default in ~/.bashrc
[01:02] <crimsun> if [ "$TERM" != "dumb" ] ; then eval "`dircolors -b`" alias ls='ls --color=auto' [...]  fi
[01:04] <BlankB_> !usb
[01:04] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BlankB_
[01:04] <BlankB_> !uhci_hcd
[01:04] <ubotu> BlankB_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:04] <BlankB_> Which driver is the usb 2.0 driver is it uhci_hcd or ehci_hcd?
[01:05] <crimsun> BlankB_: the latter, generally, is the controller driver.
[01:05] <BlankB_> ahh...Im trying to see if the device is detected as usb 1 or usb 2.
[01:05] <crimsun> BlankB_: dmesg will give you clue(s0.
[01:05] <crimsun> clue(s), rather.
[01:06] <BlankB_> what will it say...or is there a faq on this?
[01:08] <BlankB_> ahh ehci is the usb 2.0 one and ohci is i'm guessing the usb 1.x one
[01:19] <Jim2> ooohkay
[01:19] <Jim2> during install, i kinda skipped through all the network config crap cause i didnt have any network at the time
[01:20] <[Nirvana] > yes
[01:20] <Jim2> so now in Network Settings
[01:21] <lakin> hi guys, anyone get this error when trying to suspend to RAM: ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server! ?  ... the funny part, is that I"m not running kubuntu
[01:21] <Jim2> for laughs im just trying to get my ethernet working as i have a broadcom wireless card so it will probably require some more massaging down the road
[01:21] <[Nirvana] > Jim2: for wireless
[01:21] <[Nirvana] > !wireless
[01:21] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[01:21] <[Nirvana] > !broadcom
[01:21] <ubotu> somebody said broadcom was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[01:21] <Jim2> in any case, when I click "Enable Interface" in Network Settings its enabled for a half second, then its disabled again
[01:22] <[Nirvana] > Jim2: that's nice talk for it not being able to enable
[01:22] <Jim2> hahaha
[01:22] <Jim2> i like stories :)
[01:22] <[Nirvana] > read those links
[01:22] <[Nirvana] > !wireless
[01:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[01:22] <[Nirvana] > !broadcom
[01:22] <ubotu> well, broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[01:22] <[Nirvana] > and with that, I'm out
[01:23] <Jim2> ... not trying to config my wireless...
[01:25] <Jim2> nice of him to give me an RTFM though, when he completely didn't get that the same shit happens for both devices.
[01:32] <canllaith> Jim2: aw man, ask for a refund!
[01:34] <Jim2> hahah, yeah. hell if it was in person I could just smack him one and get him to listen to the whole question :)
[01:37] <apokryphos> hi canllaith, nice to see you here :P
[01:38] <canllaith> yeah Jim2 cause the people who volunteer their time to support your OS for free really get off on that ;)
[01:39] <Jim2> hahahahaha
[01:39] <Jim2> chill!
[01:40] <Jim2> ive kinda figured it out now
[01:41] <visik7> anyone got xgl work on dapper kubuntu ?
[01:41] <visik7> here works but draw strange things and most of the desktop is unusable
[01:47] <Ahmuck> how does one open pls files in kubuntu drapper ?
[01:47] <apokryphos> Czessi: auto-aways become annoying :P
[01:51] <TheUni> anyone get qemu working with dapper?
[02:01] <PWizard> hey, I want to set my DPI by hand; I'm logging into KDE via KDM.  None of the settings I have tried so far have worked
[02:02] <PWizard> the DPI is set correctly in KDM, but that setting doesn't carry over into KDE for some reason
[02:03] <Blissex> PWizard: you can't set it like that.
[02:03] <Blissex> PWizard: you must set it with the '-dpi' option to the X server.
[02:04] <PWizard> Blissex: I understand that; but where do I place that configuration directive?
[02:05] <PWizard> I've got it in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, under LocalServerArgs
[02:05] <apokryphos> xserver file, as I said, likely =)
[02:06] <Blissex> PWizard: depends on how the X server gets started. Try to put it into 'ServerCmd' instead.
[02:06] <PWizard> there's an xserver directory...
[02:06] <PWizard> Blissex: will do
[02:06] <apokryphos> in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver, perhaps
[02:07] <PWizard> Blissex: well, it's already there, too
[02:07] <Blissex> PWizard: check '/var/log/Xorg.0.conf' to see where it gets the DPI from
[02:07] <PWizard> I wish I weren't used to the stupid hardcoded windows 75 dpi fonts
[02:07] <Blissex> PWizard: then perhaps X is starting in a different way from what you think
[02:07] <Blissex> PWizard: thats a complicated story.
[02:07] <stargater> re
[02:08] <Blissex> PWizard: there are stupid rules about bitmap fonts and DPIs.
[02:08] <Blissex> PWizard: links to follow.
[02:08] <PWizard> Blissex: hmmm
[02:09] <Blissex> PWizard: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-3rd.html#050822
[02:09] <PWizard> Blissex: well, the log says that it's getting the DPI setting from the command line.  Should I not load the 100 dpi fonts, perhaps?
[02:09] <Blissex> PWizard: the DPI is therefore being set right.
[02:09] <Blissex> PWizard: read the link above.
[02:11] <Blissex> PWizard: and the relevant parts of http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxFonts.html
[02:12] <DaSkreech> Can I use adept to hold a package?
[02:12] <DaSkreech>  I don't want anymore 386 kernels
[02:14] <Jim2> is there any way to re-run that whole network autoconf wizard made available in the installer?
[02:14] <billytwowilly> how do I force the kmenu to update?
[02:15] <PWizard> Blissex: I get the feeling I shouldn't have upgraded to Dapper Drake, since this all worked before.  My fonts may be set "Correctly", but they are definitely huge compared to the way they were before.  :-/
[02:16] <Blissex> PWizard: well, lets say that fonts and DPI etc. are a _very_ difficult subject.
[02:16] <Blissex> PWizard: and you are not helping by being as all n00bs rather vague...
[02:17] <PWizard> Blissex: Hah, thanks for calling me a noob
[02:17] <PWizard> Perhaps if X weren't constantly changing beneath our feet, or if they would finally consolidate the setting to one single location.
[02:17] <Blissex> PWizard: you are not even saying whether your FontConfig or X11 fonts are too large...
[02:18] <Blissex> PWizard: it is not constantly changing -- it is being unwisely extended by KeithP.
[02:18] <Blissex> PWizard: a small difference :-)
[02:18] <PWizard> Blissex: Well, it's my Fontconfig fonts, I'm relatively sure, because the anti-aliased fonts on my KDE desktop are outsized, but so are my bitmapped fonts in my Konsole session.
[02:18] <Blissex> PWizard: the basic problem with fonts is that there are too many font systems with too many possible combinations of configurations in most of them.
[02:19] <Blissex> PWizard: good, and which fonts are those?
[02:19] <PWizard> Blissex: I think it's Luxi Sans.  Let me start up my X and double-check
[02:21] <PWizard> DejaVu Sans, mainly
[02:21] <Blissex> PWizard: try 'fc-match -v 'DejaVu Sans-10' and check the result.
[02:22] <Blissex> PWizard: try 'fc-match -v "DejaVu Sans-10"'and check the result.
[02:22] <Kadran> hi, i feel that the kubuntu is slow then i found that Xorg is eating the resources. any help?
[02:23] <Blissex> PWizard: and/or paste it to pastebin.com
[02:23] <Blissex> Kadran: nothing new there.
[02:23] <Blissex> Kadran: also, as literally written, very unlikely.
[02:24] <Kadran> Blissex: is it normal that Xorg take most the resources?
[02:25] <Blissex> Kadran: what you write is sort of incomprehensible to me. Too vague by far. But if you think memory, thats all right because it includes the framebuffer mapping.
[02:26] <PWizard> Blissex: What am I looking for specifically?
[02:26] <Blissex> PWizard: well, what that is specifically mapping.
[02:27] <Blissex> PWizard: BTW, note that you have managed so far to keep secret which DPI your screen has and which DPI you think you want...
[02:27] <PWizard> This is what is freaking me out: when I start KDE via startx from the commandline, my fonts are the proper dimensions for 75dpi.  xdpyinfo and fc-match both report that I am using 75dpi.  When I start KDE via KDM, the same commands yield the same data, but the fonts are definitely larger
[02:28] <Blissex> PWizard: is your screen 75DPI BTW?
[02:28] <Blissex> PWizard: and how larger, guesstimating?
[02:28] <PWizard> Blissex: it's 1280x1024, 433x347mm.  DPI is probably somewhere in the 105-110 range.  Desired DPI is 75, which I told you earlier.
[02:29] <mitchell> howdy
[02:29] <mitchell> lol
[02:29] <PWizard> "<PWizard> I wish I weren't used to the stupid hardcoded windows 75 dpi fonts"
[02:29] <Blissex> PWizard: thanks for being clear and obvious
[02:30] <Blissex> PWizard: that somehow translates to ''I have set -dpi to 75''.
[02:31] <Blissex> PWizard: have you checked the screen size? Like that it is 1280x1024 in both cases?
[02:32] <PWizard> Blissex: Yes.  It's a LCD so it would be readily apparent if it weren't running at the native resolution.  At both sizes, the sub-pixel rendering works properly.
[02:32] <Blissex> PWizard: and how much larger do the fonts look?
[02:33] <PWizard> about 25-33%
[02:33] <PWizard> which would be consistent with the DPI being set to 100-110
[02:33] <Blissex> PWizard: also try this experiment in either 'startx' or 'kdm' mode: xfd -fa 'DejaVu Sans-10:dpi=75' and the same with 100.
[02:34] <DaSkreech> Blissex: You can Apt-get amarok 1.4?
[02:35] <PWizard> Blissex: the sizes look consistent with what I've been experiencing, if that's what I'm supposed to be looking for
[02:35] <Blissex> PWizard: yes, but try both sizes side by side
[02:37] <Blissex> PWizard: if FontConfig is told to render the same font 10 points at 75DPI it cannot come out differently depending on the context.
[02:37] <PWizard> Blissex: That's what I did.  I just tried it in KDM mode, too, with identical results.  The kicker being that the 100DPI fonts match what's on my desktop now, instead of the 75DPI earlier
[02:38] <Blissex> PWizard: yes, but have you tried having both 75 and 100DPI 'xfd' in the KDM and 'startx' modes?
[02:38] <PWizard> so I have to somehow inform fontconfig of my DPI setting
[02:38] <Blissex> PWizard: Is this whats is happening?
[02:38] <Blissex> PWizard: wait
[02:39] <PWizard> Blissex: I just told you, I did the comparison in both modes.  The xfd windows are identical regardless which mode I am in
[02:39] <Blissex> PWizard: thanks for letting me know.
[02:39] <PWizard> "<PWizard> Blissex: That's what I did.  I just tried it in KDM mode, too, ..." &c.
[02:40] <Blissex> PWizard: but identical to each other or across modes? Please keep in mind that unlike everybody else I am neither telepathic nor clairvoyant and therefore I cannot see what is on your screen.
[02:40] <Blissex> PWizard: for example when you say "The xfd windows are identical" does that mean that they are identical to each other, or different but the same in both modes?
[02:40] <PWizard> Blissex: The phrase "That's what I just did" was in response to your question about having done the comparison.  I used a pronoun, since I believed you might be able to extract the meaning from the context of the conversation.
[02:41] <Blissex> PWizard: because if both 75 and 100 DPI render the same at the same time, there is something really wrong.
[02:41] <PWizard> They are identical across modes.  You just told me that fontconfig won't render the fonts differently when you specify a dpi.
[02:41] <Blissex> PWizard: that is what is supposed to happen, I wanted to check.
[02:42] <PWizard> So is there some place where I can discover how fontconfig is being set up?
[02:43] <Blissex> PWizard: well that place is 'fc-match', but apparently the output is the same under KDM and 'startx'.
[02:44] <Blissex> PWizard: what seems apparent what what I can deduce so far is that 'fc-match' says in both modes the font is rasterized to 75DPI, but this actually does not happen.
[02:44] <Blissex> PWizard: but when the DPI is forced to 75 in the pattern, the font does actually come out as 75DPI.
[02:45] <PWizard> QT should be rendering via fontconfig, right?
[02:45] <Blissex> PWizard: what happens when you say 'xfd -fa "DejaVu Sans-10"' in KDM mode>
[02:45] <Blissex> PWizard: yes.
[02:45] <PWizard> or grabbing the settings, or whatnot
[02:46] <PWizard> Blissex: when I do that, the fonts in xfd render at the same dimension as the fonts on the desktop
[02:46] <Ahmuck> how does one play shoutcast *.pls files in kubuntu with amarok ?
[02:46] <Blissex> PWizard: that is as they were 100DPI?
[02:46] <PWizard> well, slightly smaller.  Looking like 96DPI at this juncture.
[02:47] <Blissex> PWizard: 96 DPI is the native DPI of 17" 1280x1024 LCDs...
[02:47] <PWizard> Blissex: Let me re-check xdpyinfo
[02:47] <Blissex> PWizard: yes, thats a good idea.
[02:47] <PWizard> it's saying 75 x 75
[02:48] <Blissex> PWizard: the X server would compute 96DPI by getting the size of the screen via DDC and the pixel size.
[02:49] <Blissex> PWizard: there is some puzzle here: because it looks as if FontConfig is getting the DPI as if it were autocomputed by the server to be 96DPI, but instead it is not.
[02:49] <PWizard> Blissex: I'm using the nvidia-glx drivers.  I had the "UseEdidDPI" option set to false and the "DPI" option set to "75 x 75".  I commented those 2 lines out, restarted the X server, and same result.  I'm going to /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[02:49] <Blissex> PWizard: however, just on a wild guess, check ~/.fonts.conf'
[02:49] <PWizard> I did a moment ago.  It doesn't contain any DPI settings
[02:50] <Blissex> PWizard: no pointless because you said that 'fc-match' returns 75 dpi
[02:50] <Blissex> PWizard: the biggest mistery is why 'fc-match' says 75DPI but 'xfd' does not rasterize at 75DPI.
[02:51] <billytwowilly> hi, if I have a buy a dual monitor setup can I run the monitors at different resolutiosn?
[02:51] <Blissex> PWizard: the second biggest is that 'xfd' seems to rasterize at 96DPI, which would be the autocomputed value, but the value is not autocomputed.
[02:51] <PWizard> Blissex: I wonder if it has to do with having done dist-upgrade to Dapper Dipstick or whatever this next release is called
[02:51] <Blissex> PWizard: thats sort of unlikely.
[02:51] <Blissex> PWizard: there may be some bugs though.
[02:51] <Blissex> billytwowilly: yes.
[02:51] <PWizard> Blissex: It's also sort of unlikely that all my tools would report that I'm running at 75dpi but then render at 96
[02:51] <billytwowilly> fantabulous.
[02:52] <Blissex> PWizard: definitely...
[02:52] <billytwowilly> Blissex: you just sold me on a benq 20.1 " widescreen lcd monitor;)
[02:52] <Blissex> billytwowilly: do you need a second monitor with that?
[02:52] <Blissex> billytwowilly: thats greedy.
[02:53] <billytwowilly> Blissex: I'd keep my 19" letterbox crt..
[02:53] <Blissex> PWizard: you must have a very big desk...
[02:53] <Blissex> billytwowilly: you must have a very big desk...
[02:53] <Blissex> PWizard: sorry for the misdirection.
[02:53] <PWizard> Blissex: I'm logging in with a user I just created, so I should not pull in any saved settings.
[02:53] <billytwowilly> Blissex: yep;) ikea special. 5 feet by 2 feet.
[02:54] <Blissex> PWizard: just to be sure I'd like to see in a pastebin the result of 'fc-match'.
[02:55] <Blissex> PWizard: perhaps all three results of 'fc-match -v "DejaVu Sans-10"' and then with ":dpi=75" and "dpi=100" appended.
[02:55] <PWizard> Blissex: http://www.pastebin.com/704526
[02:56] <PWizard> Blissex: http://www.pastebin.com/704527
[02:57] <PWizard> This is driving me insane.  :-/  I need to get some food, anyway
[02:57] <Blissex> PWizard: this is mine for all three, and it has a very interesting propery...
[02:57] <Blissex> http://pastebin.com/704528
[02:57] <Ahmuck> i am not getting sounds from *.pls stream
[02:58] <Blissex> PWizard: I have set my '-dpi 100' though.
[02:58] <PWizard> Blissex: what is the interesting property?  My mental diff is fairly slow
[03:00] <PWizard> are you running Dapper Dragqueen currently, or Breezy Bludgeon?
[03:00] <Blissex> PWizard: well, my X 'dots per inch' is definitely 100. Now the first 'fc-match' is without any 'dpi', and the result says 'dpi: 75(f)(s)', but when I do 'xfd -fa "DejaVu Sans-10"' it comes out as 100.
[03:00] <Blissex> PWizard: on this machine I run Fedora actually, but that should not matter much.
[03:02] <Blissex> PWizard: if you want a quick-and-dirty workaround, force 75 DPI in the '/etc/fonts/local.conf'
[03:03] <PWizard> I've got no local.conf, I have the conf.d directory
[03:03] <nstuart> anyone else unable to add printers with 6.0.6?
[03:04] <nstuart> the Systems setting thing has all the printer types grayed out except for other
[03:05] <DaSkreech> Oh yeah :-) Now to figure out why LDAP is screwed :-)
[03:05] <Blissex> PWizard: you can create one...
[03:06] <Blissex> PWizard: sample configs here: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Cfg/FontConfig
[03:07] <PWizard> well, I'm giving up for now
[03:07] <PWizard> I need to eat
[03:07] <PWizard> I think I'll just not use KDM or GDM for a while.
[03:07] <PWizard> :-/
[03:09] <PWizard> thanks for the help though
[03:15] <ilabra> hello
[03:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hello
[03:16] <mrphonk> hi there... :D
[03:17] <ilabra> justgetting used to ubuntu and poking around
[03:17] <mrphonk> cool! what do you think so far?
[03:17] <ilabra> i dont miss my windows box
[03:17] <ilabra> and i can actually fix problems on this thing
[03:17] <mrphonk> hehe, i can understand that.
[03:18] <ilabra> still feel a bit clumsy
[03:18] <DaSkreech> :-) It'll be more fun when you start to forget what non hardware problems are :-D
[03:18] <mrphonk> ilabra: Yeah, that's just normal. Give it some more time and you will know it like your own pocket.
[03:19] <ilabra> thanks
[03:20] <ilabra> well its already 320 am here - yall take care
[03:20] <himmler> fyc
[03:20] <ilabra> ill drop by at amore reasonable hour
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good idea. :P
[03:20] <himmler> fuck off
[03:20] <nstuart> anyone have any idea why my CUPS server isn't acting nicely? I get something like the following in the error log: cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[03:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: tell himmler about coc
[03:21] <mrphonk> ilabra: you're in sweden?
[03:22] <himmler> you are nigger
[03:22] <mrphonk> lol
[03:22] <himmler> lol
[03:22] <himmler> ok ok
[03:22] <mrphonk> himmler: Heinrich would have been proud of you using his name...
[03:23] <himmler> i need smoke
[03:24] <mrphonk> himmler: then go smoke?
[03:24] <himmler> somebody play ET
[03:24] <himmler> i smoke here
[03:24] <Jim2> okay, my two cents on the universe : yeah my problem I poorly described earlier, was an issue with my /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:26] <himmler> wtf?
[03:28] <DaSkreech> Jim2: What was the issue?
[03:32] <himmler> im high
[03:33] <mrphonk> himmler: True national socialist, huh?
[03:33] <himmler> you are from?
[03:33] <mrphonk> Sweden
[03:33] <himmler> ok
[03:34] <xwolf-> estonia O_o
[03:34] <Jim2> DaSkreech: i skipped the network config in the install, then i was trying to configure it after the fact. it was very painful
[03:34] <himmler> me too
[03:34] <himmler> estonia
[03:34] <xwolf-> i was talking about you :P
[03:34] <Jim2> DaSkreech: KDE's network settings or whatever didnt allow me to enable the device, until i messed around with ifconfig, ifup and /etc/network/interfaces
[03:34] <xwolf-> is it estonia in your language too?
[03:34] <himmler> yes
[03:35] <xwolf-> cause your neighbours are not called Latvia and Lietuva here
[03:35] <Jim2> DaSkreech: well it allowed me to enable it, but it enabled it for about 0.5 seconds, then disabled it with ZERO feedback
[03:35] <himmler> what ever
[03:35] <Jim2> times like this the command line shines
[03:36] <DaSkreech> Jim2: SO what was wrong with the interfaces file?
[03:40] <himmler> swedish girl sing our eurovision song - horrible
[03:43] <mrphonk> himmler: lol...
[03:44] <mrphonk> now i've been watching 4 episodes of Numb3rs and 3 episodes of CSI. Nice evening :D
[03:59] <DaSkreech> fru57r873d: Me too!
[04:00] <Jim2> DaSkreech: hmmm, i think it was missing a "dhcp" somewheres.
[04:00] <DaSkreech> :-)
[04:01] <Jim2> :D
[04:02] <protocol1> how do I got about getting xchat 2.6.2 on kubuntu?
[04:04] <DaSkreech> Wait a few days then apt-get install?
[04:06] <DaSkreech> / #kde
[04:09] <poimen> hello
[04:09] <poimen> I have a little problem
[04:09] <poimen> :(
[04:09] <FauxFaux> DATAJA
[04:10] <DaSkreech> FauxFaux: he Didn't atahjsthhap
[04:10] <poimen> I have a pc that has a ati radeon and it was working with the ati driver but when I pluged in my apple monitor it dint work with the ati driver
[04:10] <poimen> I had to load the vesa driver
[04:10] <FauxFaux> DaSkreech: Ow, my brain.
[04:11] <poimen> but the vesa driver does not run right videos they are chopy as hell
[04:11] <FauxFaux> Just started to.. his ass.. something?
[04:11] <FauxFaux> Give me a clue?
[04:11] <poimen> does the fglrx driver work on dapper?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> DATAJA
[04:11] <DaSkreech> he didn't ata he just said he had a problem
[04:12] <poimen> because I installed the package and when I did fglrxconfig and did not show nothing
[04:12] <poimen> what show I do?
[04:13] <FauxFaux> Heh :P
[04:14] <DaSkreech> FauxFaux: bACK TO YOUR REGULAR helping :-)
[04:17] <FauxFaux> DaSkreech: Well, I'd help, but I'm a windows user because kubuntu fails horribly to boot on my machine :)
[04:18] <DaSkreech> poimen: Honestly #xgl-ubuntu is probably the best way to get help
[04:19] <poimen> ok
[04:21] <protocol1>  how do I got about getting xchat 2.6.2 on kubuntu?
[04:22] <DaSkreech> protocol1: You need it now?
[04:22] <protocol1> its not really a priority
[04:22] <DaSkreech> Then wait a few days while it gets approved for the repos
[04:23] <protocol1> k
[04:29] <starkej> Does anyone know why only a floppy drive shows up under media:/ on my Kubuntu?  Or possibly any ideas?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> Do you have  CD in the Drive?
[04:30] <starkej> I have a DVD if your asking me
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Ok
[04:37] <DaSkreech> Does a kubuntu server automatically have firewall up that drops pings?
[04:44] <starkej> could anybody help me with a problem with the storage media thing in kubuntu?  the only thing that shows up is a flopy drive, and I never even use the floppy
[04:53] <_Steven> hi all
[04:53] <imbrandon> hello
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Chris_Tucker: D0 \/ und3r51@no| teh v\/u7ds c0m1ng 0ut o4 mi terminal?
[04:59] <Chris_Tucker> DaSkreech, |-|0\/\/ |-|1 4RE \/?
[05:00] <Steven_M> I've found a bug report for the exact problem I'm having with kopete in kde 3.5.2, only I'm still not sure what the solution is. I'll post the link to the report and see if one of you can figure it out please.
[05:00] <DaSkreech> In the words of Firefox flicks
[05:00] <DaSkreech> WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
[05:00] <Chris_Tucker> very high appearantly
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Cocaine is a hell of a drug
[05:01] <Steven_M> here's the bug report: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125549
[05:02] <imbrandon> DaSkreech: please take those type topics to #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:03] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: It's not really a topic :)
[05:03] <imbrandon> Steven_M: that dosent mean the bug is fixed, just been reported, you might have to wait for a patch to be released
[05:03] <imbrandon> DaSkreech: yea i know but you caught my drift ;)
[05:04] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: Would you happen to know if a kubuntu server installs iptables rules?
[05:04] <imbrandon> dont think so
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Like dropping all icmp requests?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Then what is going on?
[05:04] <imbrandon> dont think so
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Grrrs
[05:05] <Steven_M> imbrandon:but it said it was resolved
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Can't ssh can't ping can't samba
[05:07] <Ahmuck> how does one play shoutcast *.pls streams in amarok using kubuntu ?
[05:08] <xwolf-> ever since i did this big update, my media:/ thingie only displays the diskette
[05:08] <xwolf-> why could that be?
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> apparenlty Xgl doesn't even work with kde eh? at least not kde-window-decorator
[05:11] <DaSkreech> LeeJunFan: I doubt it would currently
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> sucks, works with gnome. And I can use gnome window decor with kde but that really breaks kde bad.
[05:13] <DaSkreech> LeeJunFan: Have you seen the SOC for KDE?
[05:13] <DaSkreech> Or kubuntu for that matter? :)
[05:14] <LeeJunFan> SOC?
[05:14] <DaSkreech> Summer of Code
[05:16] <LeeJunFan> DaSkreech: not really. I know xgl is going to be a bigger target for next kubuntu if that's what you're referring to.
[05:16] <DaSkreech> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE+Google+SoC+2006+ideas
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Thats the KDE one but there is a simialr bounty in Kubuntu
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Oh You may want to grep it for XGL
[05:22] <jeff_> hey guys
[05:22] <jeff_> im compiling kopete 0.12 beta 2 and its taken over half an hour to 'make'
[05:23] <jeff_> is this normal?
[05:23] <jeff_> i dont compile from source much
[05:23] <Lorenzod> jeff: back in my Gentoo days, some kde components could take hours to compile..
[05:24] <jeff_> whoa,really?
[05:24] <Lorenzod> yeah, but then again, that was on a relatively slow laptop.
[05:25] <jeff_> hmm
[05:25] <jeff_> this laptop is moderately fast
[05:25] <Lorenzod> I think the most important thing is the amount of RAM you have.
[05:25] <Lorenzod> Because if all your RAM gets used up and g++ has to start swapping a lot then things get slow.
[05:26] <jeff_> damnit
[05:26] <jeff_> i only have 128mb
[05:26] <Lorenzod> That's what I had back in those days.
[05:26] <jeff_> lol damnit
[05:26] <jeff_> so im probably gonna be here a while
[05:26] <Lorenzod> I used to close down X every time I was compiling KDE.
[05:27] <Lorenzod> jeff_: do you drink coffee? If so, go and prepare yourself a bucket or two.. ;-)
[05:27] <jeff_> lol
[05:29] <jeff_> if i want to stop 'make'ing now, will it affect my system?
[05:36] <Steven_M> is there anyway for me to downgrade from kde 3.5.2 to kde 3.5.1
[05:43] <Sputnik8> @jeff_ Hi, I don't think so...
[05:43] <jeff_> Sputnik8: thanks
[05:43] <Sputnik8> @Steven_M why?
[05:44] <Sputnik8> @jeff_ where is your problem with the normal version of kopete?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Sputnik8: They have an abnormal version?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Lordy
[05:45] <jeff_> Sputnik8: its not the newset version available
[05:45] <_Steven> Sputnik8: Why what?
[05:45] <Sputnik8> @jeff_ I think they will upgrade later...
[05:46] <Sputnik8> @_Steven Why downgrading?
[05:46] <Sputnik8> @jeff_ Maybe they will just wait because of stability...
[05:47] <DaSkreech> 0.12 isn't stable?
[05:47] <jeff_> Sputnik8: yeah probably, but im a risk taking guy
[05:48] <_Steven> Sputnik8: cause koppete no longer works for me under 3.5.2
[05:49] <Sputnik8> @_Steven oops...
[05:49] <Sputnik8> @Steven Breezy?
[05:49] <_Steven> Yeah
[05:50] <Lorenzod> jeff_: you can safely cancel a 'make' job, but not a 'make install'
[05:50] <Sputnik8> @_Steven I had problems with it under Breezy as well - But now I use Dapper...
[05:50] <Sputnik8> @_Steven videoproblems?
[05:51] <_Steven> What's the package selections like in Dapper?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> jeff_: Want to start running KDE4 next month?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> LeeJunFan: Hi
[05:52] <LeeJunFan> hi
[05:53] <Sputnik8> @_Steven what do you mean? apt-get is the same ... Adept is better ... There are some new packages I think ... And some repositories did not upgrade yet... ?
[05:54] <sjohnson> !broadcom
[05:54] <ubotu> from memory, broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[05:54] <sjohnson> thx ubotu :)
[05:55] <_Steven> Sputnik8: I mean is there the same range of apps for it?
[05:56] <DaSkreech> _Steven: For dapper vs Breezy?
[05:56] <Sputnik8> Yes ... I think some more packages? Seemed like this for me... - But ofcourse if you use repositories that didn't upgrade you can get problems..
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Sputnik8: Can I hold a package in adept?
[05:57] <_Steven> DaSkreech: yes
[05:57] <Sputnik8> You also get often new and a lot of packages: It's beta!
[05:57] <pppoe_dude> hi. how come video files are not part of the icon-preview in kde?
[05:58] <DaSkreech> _Steven: Assuming that you don't have some funky repos then you should have a few more packages available in dapper.
[06:01] <pppoe_dude> no preview in metabar either (in konqueror)
[06:02] <_Steven> DaSkreech: great
[06:03] <troy> evening folks
[06:06] <DaSkreech> troy: Yo!
[06:07] <DaSkreech> This one!
[06:10] <_Steven> DaSkreech: how would you rate the stability of dapper?
[06:11] <DaSkreech> _Steven: Currently very stable in terms of not crashing
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Still a little jumpy in terms of package changes
[06:12] <Unit_> breezy sound fixes ?
[06:12] <_Steven> DaSkreech:  would I have to upgrades every week sort of thing?
[06:13] <Unit_> why does ubuntu take so long to load
[06:13] <DaSkreech> _Steven: Right :)
[06:13] <Unit_> kubuntu
[06:13] <DaSkreech> You could just ignore them and then upgrade once a month
[06:13] <_Steven> ok
[06:13] <DaSkreech> But whats the fun in that?
[06:15] <tim> there is a major bug in kubuntu dapper!
[06:16] <_Steven> I've got slow internet so a once a month might be all I can manage
[06:16] <_Steven> tim what's the bug
[06:16] <DaSkreech> _Steven: If it's really bad then I would say gt flight 7 then when the final comes out get than and upgrade from the CD
[06:18] <Lynoure> tim: Have you already reported it?
[06:18] <_Steven> how stable is fligt 7?
[06:18] <tim> everytime, i click a textbox it type a 'x'.
[06:19] <_Steven> tim: that's odd
[06:19] <_Steven> anyone else heard of this?
[06:19] <Lynoure> does not sound that major to me, as it doesn't affect most systems and has a workaround (backspace). But interesting normal bug, indeed
[06:20] <Sputnik8> @_Steven it's not a lot of fun with slow internet... :-( Maybe you better wait 20 days and get a stable one...
[06:21] <_Steven> ok
[06:22] <Lynoure> tim: My first thought is that you have x selected somewhere and accidentally are using the middle mouse button
[06:23] <Lynoure> tim: or that you have x selected somewhere and have mouse buttons somehow shuffled
[06:23] <_Steven> thanks for all the help, see you everyone.
[06:23] <Sputnik8> Bye, _Steven!
[06:25] <tim> I am using gok
[06:26] <Lynoure> tim: but what kind of mouse you are using?
[06:27] <tim> microsoft
[06:27] <tim> mouse
[06:27] <jeff_> hey guys
[06:27] <Lynoure> how many buttons?
[06:27] <jeff_> anybody know how to get a mic working?
[06:28] <Lynoure> jeff: alsamixer and then unmute it
[06:28] <jeff_> ok
[06:28] <tim> three buttons
[06:29] <Lynoure> tim: and you do use the leftmost one for clicking on the text field (just checking)?
[06:29] <jeff_> Lynoure: is alsamixer an app? i just typed it into a command line but nothings happening
[06:29] <jeff_> Lynoure: should i apt-get it?
[06:29] <tim> yes
[06:29] <jeff_> tim: me?
[06:30] <Sputnik8> @jeff_ what about kmix?
[06:30] <Lynoure> jeff: hhm, I don't know, I'm only using dapper and mine came with it.
[06:30] <Sputnik8> did you try?
[06:30] <Sputnik8> (you have to get used to the buttons a bit...)
[06:31] <jeff_> Sputnik8: ill try that now
[06:31] <tim> so what is my problem?
[06:32] <troy> tim: it's got to be with the mouse for sure, maybe the left button is sticking to the middle button and it's clicking simultaneously
[06:32] <troy> if you select some other text, does the letter 'x' change into something else?
[06:33] <Lynoure> tim: if you paint an area with your mouse and then click on a text field, does it put the painted text there?
[06:33] <troy> anyway, sleep beckons... good luck with that tim
[06:35] <Lynoure> tim: or do you have difficulties with painting text?
[06:35] <sheldonc> !broadcom
[06:35] <ubotu> hmm... broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[06:37] <Lynoure> tim: there are some common mapping problems with 5 button mice, at least. But of course this can be something else completely, too
[06:37] <tim> what am I supposed to do?
[06:37] <MetaMorfoziS> bye all
[06:38] <robotgeek> there was a mouse howto on the wiki
[06:39] <Lynoure> tim: select some text from the screen by dragging with your left mouse button. Does it get selected? If so, then without unselecting,  click on a text field, do you still x or that text?
[06:40] <Lorenzod> hm.. quick question: how do I find -doc packages in adept_installer?
[06:41] <robotgeek> Lorenzod: kubuntu-doc package
[06:41] <jeff_> Lynoure: ok i turned up the volume on my mic but typing alsamixer into the konsole
[06:42] <jeff_> Lynoure: but krec is still not getting anything from my mic
[06:42] <tim> no
[06:42] <Lorenzod> robotgeek: don't follow you. say I want to install kdevelop-doc, how do I find it in adept_installer?
[06:43] <tim> but I am not using gok anymore,
[06:44] <robotgeek> Lorenzod: ah, okay. just search for kdevelop, and the rest should show up
[06:44] <Lynoure> jeff_: sometimes you only need to unmute mic boost (cannot rememer what it is called)
[06:44] <Lorenzod> robotgeek: the funny thing is, the -doc package doesn't show up.. :-/
[06:45] <Lynoure> jeff_: other than that I'm not sure I can help you as I have not yet used krec
[06:45] <jeff_> ok
[06:45] <jeff_> thanks man
[06:45] <Lynoure> jeff_ your welcome, woman =)
[06:45] <Lynoure> s/your/you're
[06:45] <jeff_> hahaha...
[06:46] <robotgeek> kdevelop3-doc Lorenzod
[06:46] <jeff_> oh i get it, ur a woman right Lynoure?
[06:46] <jeff_> lol! im sorry, i didnt actually read your name,
[06:47] <Lynoure> jeff_: as there is just a handfull of Lynoure's in the world, I cannot blame you for assuming defaults :)
[06:47] <Lorenzod> robotgeek: yes, but I had to switch to adept. adept_installer seems a little bit too simplified for me..
[06:47] <jeff_> ive never seen the name Lynoure written before so i just figured it was some obscure, computer related alias
[06:47] <robotgeek> Lorenzod: oh, i did not know there was a difference :)
[06:48] <Lynoure> jeff_: At worst, a guy assume I was a gay man, as I mentioned my husband on a Finnish Linux channel.
[06:48] <robotgeek> lol
[06:48] <jeff_> lol
[06:48] <jeff_> thats insane
[06:48] <jeff_> hahaha
[06:48] <jeff_> yeah i wish there were more girls with the guts to use linux
[06:48] <jeff_> yeah i know, shes the bomb
[06:49] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: is checkinstall for dapper fixed now?
[06:49] <jeff_> yeah
[06:49] <jeff_> i just got it and it worked for me
[06:49] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: no
[06:49] <Hobbsee> er, well..i dunno
[06:49] <Lorenzod> robotgeek: adept_installer is the app you get when you select "add/remove programs".
[06:49] <Lynoure> tim: If you cannot select text with your left mouse button, it sounds like the mouse buttons are mapped to wrong places.
[06:50] <robotgeek> Lorenzod: oh okay, i just use apt-get :)
[06:50] <Lorenzod> robotgeek: that is the safe choice. :)
[06:50] <Lynoure> tim: In that case, xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2" (or with some other order of numbers) could help.
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Lynoure: Really?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> thats bad
[06:52] <robotgeek> hah, i havent used xmodmap in a while!
[06:52] <trym> I cant get svn working... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://svn.inviso.local/invisoextra'
[06:52] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: If you think my advice is bad, please correct me :)
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Oh no I meant about you being a gay man
[06:53] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: i didnt get any notifications of a fix in the bug report, but i dont know
[06:54] <tim> it messes up with gok
[06:54] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: I got rather angry, especially as it was followed with "why don't you go to a gay channel instead of here" by the same guy. But he was a bit... tactless in genetal.
[06:54] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Lynoure: I read that as tactless in genital
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Which was funny if tactless :-)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> ok how do I get programs into katapult?
[06:55] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: Sorry about my typos, I'm happily unaware of his bits
[06:55] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: run katapult from the command line, it seems to update the cache
[06:55] <Hobbsee> uh oh...that doesnt look good...
[06:56] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: So I can't put it on a timer?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> To update
[06:56] <Hobbsee> i'd expect you could
[06:56] <Lynoure> tim: then I don't think I can help you, probably someone can.
[06:57] <Parkotron> Is there a release date for Dapper yet? (official, speculative, or otherwise?)
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Umm Do I need to kill anything before I run it?
[06:57] <tim> it is because of gok
[06:58] <DaSkreech> I assume that katpult is somehow "loaded" when you login?
[06:58] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: from your last session, yes
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: So do I need to kill anything?
[06:59] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: you can killall katapult if you like
[06:59] <Hobbsee> not sure if it actually does anything
[06:59] <tim> who can help me ?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Works :-)
[07:00] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: yay :)
[07:00] <Hobbsee> Parkotron: june 1
[07:01] <bimberi> hiiiii Hobbsee :)
[07:01] <Hobbsee> hey bimberi :)
[07:01] <Hobbsee> LOL!
[07:01] <Hobbsee> poor bimberi
[07:01] <bimberi> :(
[07:02] <Hobbsee> there you go
[07:02] <Hobbsee> you mind not testing in such a busy channel?
[07:03] <bimberi> Hobbsee: yes fair enough, but i wonder if it would have worked elsewhere
[07:03] <Hobbsee> bimberi: try here...
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Ok should I trust qtparted? It's non destructive right?
[07:04] <bimberi> kk...
[07:04] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: for what, resizing?
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Well I haven't started resizing yet
[07:05] <DaSkreech> I just noticed that the "official" ubuntu version is CVS
[07:05] <bimberi> hobbsee: i can't - i've lost the transcript
[07:05] <Hobbsee> bimberi: see PM
[07:06] <Hobbsee> i dont want to accidently put it in here, not knowing if i could unban myself...
[07:06] <bimberi> Hobbsee: got it, thanks ...
[07:06] <bimberi> Hobbsee: yes, and as you now know i'm not an op in here :)
[07:07] <Hobbsee> true
[07:07] <bimberi>  "boot.cat  f2.txt  f5.txt  f8.txt        isolinux.cfg    f1.txt    f3.txt  f6.txt  f9.txt        isolinux.txt   f10.txt   f4.txt  f7.txt  isolinux.bin  splash.rle"
[07:07] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: auto kick on paste?
[07:08] <Hobbsee> boot.cat  f2.txt  f5.txt  f8.txt        isolinux.cfg    f1.txt    f3.txt  f6.txt  f9.txt        isolinux.txt   f10.txt   f4.txt  f7.txt  isolinux.bin  splash.rle"
[07:08] <robotgeek> opfest, it looks like :)
[07:09] <crimsun> no, it's either a kick on the extension following i s o l i n u x. b
[07:09] <bimberi> members being banned all over :)
[07:09] <crimsun> I think juarez mentions are autokicked.
[07:09] <crimsun> you probably need to speak with Dennis for clarification
[07:10] <Hobbsee> you cant actually reop once kicked from the channel.
[07:10] <robotgeek> juarez?
[07:10] <crimsun> Hobbsee: you're still on the access list, at least
[07:10] <Hobbsee> crimsun: true
[07:11] <crimsun> robotgeek: illicitly obtained software, among other things. Deliberately misspelled above.
[07:11] <crimsun> (juarez being a proper noun and not likely to trigger a kick)
[07:11] <robotgeek> crimsun: hmm, okay. might be a bad thing
[07:11] <vursitis> Hallo.
[07:12] <Hobbsee> hi vursitis
[07:12] <kkathman> howdy
[07:12] <Hobbsee> hi kkathman :)
[07:12] <robotgeek> hey kkathman , long time :)
[07:12] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  :)
[07:12] <kkathman> hey robotgeek :)
[07:13] <kkathman> Hobbsee , robotgeek  been in California alot lately ..  new promotion, responsibilities
[07:13] <Hobbsee> ooh fun :)
[07:13] <robotgeek> kkathman: ah, nice! congrats!
[07:13] <kkathman> not so bad.. but lots of work
[07:14] <robotgeek> kkathman: heh, as always :)
[07:14] <kkathman> Hobbsee  robotgeek  I've totally lost track of what's goin on now in both k/ubuntu and suse :)
[07:14] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:15] <kkathman> robotgeek:  howz the new job working out?
[07:15] <Hobbsee> kkathman: flight 7, which hopefully wont wipe out people's hard drives
[07:15] <robotgeek> kkathman: still trying to find one!
[07:15] <kkathman> Hobbsee: came back and had 187 updates :)
[07:15] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[07:15] <kkathman> robotgeek:  thought you were working like at nights?
[07:16] <robotgeek> kkathman: hmm, nope. it was due the stupid wobotgeek nick i registered. (can you join #kubuntu-offtopic)
[07:16] <kkathman> Hobbsee: saw that there was a major update to evolution, at least there was on suse...same on ubuntu?
[07:17] <kkathman> robotgeek:  ohhh sorry I shouldnt be talking in here I guess sorry bout that
[07:17] <kkathman> all bizness here :)
[07:17] <robotgeek> kkathman: heh, i say that too all the people, so i should not violate :)
[07:18] <robotgeek> kkathman: anyways, all that confusion was due to the wobotgeek nick i registered!
[07:18] <kkathman> I see
[07:19] <hoomad> what is the admin pw for live distro
[07:19] <robotgeek> hoomad: you don't su, you sudo. i think the password is blank
[07:21] <hoomad> I cant get any sound
[07:21] <hoomad> amarok live works good but now ubuntu
[07:21] <robotgeek> hoomad: nothing from the example content?
[07:21] <_guillaume> HEy !
[07:22] <_guillaume> je fais des test, vous voyer se que j'ecris ?
[07:22] <robotgeek> !fr
[07:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:22] <_guillaume> ok thanks =)
[07:23] <Vursitis-X> that french?
[07:23] <_guillaume> yes
[07:23] <hoomad> I can't get any sound
[07:23] <Vursitis-X> anyone else speak cheese eating snail sniffing surrender monkey? i want a translation.
[07:23] <hoomad> there we go got sound
[07:23] <hoomad> but its the wrong ports
[07:25] <hoomad> its onboard not my card
[07:25] <hoomad> where can I set my default hardware ?
[07:26] <hoomad> the amarok buffering is bugged too
[07:26] <hoomad> I can't play live streams
[07:27] <robotgeek> hoomad: not sure, sorry
[07:27] <hoomad> they need xine for kubuntu
[07:27] <robotgeek> hoomad: it uses xine by default
[07:27] <hoomad> all I see is gstreamer
[07:28] <robotgeek> hoomad: kubuntu comes with xine, AFAIK
[07:28] <hoomad> not mine ?
[07:30] <hoomad> I thought kubuntu comes with the new amarok ?
[07:30] <robotgeek> hoomad: you may install it from other repositories
[07:30] <robotgeek> www.kubuntu.org has details, so has amarok homepage
[07:35] <protocol1> hoomad, have you tried easyubuntu?
[07:48] <pppoe_dude> hi. any ideas why I can't get any video on konqueror using flash? (google video)
[07:48] <pppoe_dude> i get audio but no video.
[07:48] <pppoe_dude> on mozilla it works fine
[08:00] <jtmoney> dunno
[08:00] <jtmoney> i had to add it to firefox
[08:00] <jtmoney> then i installed the newer version and fux0red it all up
[08:00] <stargater> re
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> hmm... i seem to be getting audio, but no video, i'm running the flashplugin-nonfree flash player
[08:06] <rohan> who can please donate some love - https://launchpad.net/bugs/40069 ?
[08:07] <pppoe_dude> please i need flash to work :(
[08:10] <protocol1> I am trying to use the kaffine player  to try play a dvd and it is telling me that it cant read title information and way I can fix this?
[08:23] <margouyab> protocol1: have you installes libdvdcss ?
[08:26] <mrfishhat> sorry about the logging on and off
[08:26] <mrfishhat> im trying to get it to auto identify
[08:26] <mrfishhat> using konversation
[08:45] <stargater> a tutorial or quik help for install mpge codecs ?
[08:45] <stargater> for 5.10
[08:59] <sPiDeRmAn> please visit http://www.thepeacefulrealm.tk/
[08:59] <sPiDeRmAn> thankyou
[09:04] <Aji-Dahaka> in dapper, svn on my machine appears not to have ra_dav support.  anyone else having that problem?
[09:04] <crimsun> Aji-Dahaka: it's a known issue, and it's being fixed.
[09:04] <crimsun> neon 0.25.5 transition, yadda. We'll pull in svn 1.3.1 RSN.
[09:04] <Aji-Dahaka> tanks :)
[09:05] <Aji-Dahaka> thanks*
[09:05] <Aji-Dahaka> any guesses as to when it would make it into dapper?
[09:05] <crimsun> today.
[09:05] <Aji-Dahaka> excellent :)  you're the bestest
[09:22] <Ahmuck> i am unable to hear sound for music
[09:22] <crimsun> just music, or any audio?
[09:24] <Ahmuck> music from shoutcast, a pls stream
[09:24] <Ahmuck> i hear the test sound
[09:26] <macd> what are you using to play it?
[09:26] <Ahmuck> amarok
[09:26] <Ahmuck> or trying to
[09:27] <Ahmuck> it shows that it is playing, the stream changes, etc.
[09:27] <macd> I actualy went to xmms for playing shoutcast
[09:27] <Ahmuck> but no  sound
[09:27] <macd> and you said the test sound worked in amarok?
[09:28] <Ahmuck> the test sound in kubuntu worked, the one through the sound manager.  i have not used amarok before
[09:28] <macd> goto amarok > settings > engine
[09:28] <macd> change your output plugin from autodetect to also
[09:28] <macd> alsa*
[09:29] <macd> that should fix your problem.
[09:29] <Ahmuck> xine engine.  hrm, i used xine in my last distro.  does this mean that xine will not play in kubuntu ?
[09:30] <macd> no, change the output plugin to alsa
[09:30] <macd> its the 3rd dropdown menu,
[09:33] <Ahmuck> done, no change
[09:33] <macd> interesting, go look in your kde sound settings and see what it is using
[09:33] <Ahmuck> dapper
[09:34] <macd> kcontrol > sound and multimedia > sound system
[09:34] <Ahmuck> was autodetect, i changed to alsa, but no change
[09:35] <macd> try Open Sound System, on both.
[09:37] <Ahmuck> same thing.  i noticed that when i click xine on the menu, it does not start
[09:41] <Ahmuck> heh, amarok just crashed without a backtrace
[09:50] <macd> hmmm, in adept (package manager) you might want to search for amarok, then look for alternative engines.
[09:54] <Ahmuck> heh, i crashed it again
[09:55] <macd> submit a bug
[10:29] <kuzmaster> can somone please tell me the link to get a new respositories list?
[10:30] <kuzmaster> hello?
[10:31] <imbrandon> !repositories
[10:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:31] <kuzmaster> ok
[10:34] <kuzmaster> !easysource
[10:34] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:34] <kuzmaster> thats the one im after
[10:35] <kuzmaster> and can i have the page to get wine on kubuntu 5.10?
[10:45] <haakonn> when in kde (which i always am), all gtk programs have the ugly default theme until i start gnome-settings-daemon. what is the "correct" way to do this?
[10:46] <cfraz89> haakonn, you can use a .gtkrc-2.0
[10:46] <haakonn> oh
[10:46] <cfraz89> also the kde settings should be able to set it for you?
[10:47] <cfraz89> it changes that file
[10:47] <cfraz89> when you use gtk styles and fonts, in appearance
[10:48] <nalioth> haakonn: try gtk2-engines-gtk-qt      it makes your gtk stuff look like qt stuff
[10:52] <CountZ> I'm trying to remove amarok but it wants to also remove kubuntu-desktop, why?
[10:52] <cfraz89> kubuntu desktop is a metapacakge
[10:52] <cfraz89> which depends on amarok
[10:52] <cfraz89> so by installing kubuntu-desktop you install amarok
[10:52] <cfraz89> its ok if it removes it then
[10:53] <CountZ> it is?
[10:53] <CountZ> it will not remove the gazillion packages installed after kubuntu-desktop?
[10:53] <haakonn> yeah, seems like choosing "Qt" as the gtk theme in kcontrol made things prettier
[10:54] <cfraz89> nope
[10:54] <cfraz89> nothing depends on kubuntu-desktop
[10:54] <CountZ> Ok here's the problem - I have the arts daemon running, KDE sound works
[10:55] <cfraz89> but kubuntu-desktop depends on lots
[10:55] <cfraz89> yep
[10:55] <CountZ> but Amarok doesn't find arts in the list of engines
[10:55] <CountZ> Do I have to have amarok-xine?
[10:55] <cfraz89> thatll give you the xine engine
[10:55] <cfraz89> amarok doesnt have an arts engine anymore
[10:56] <cfraz89> not in latest beta
[10:56] <CountZ> ok but Xine tells me it can not initialize any audio devices
[10:57] <cfraz89> hmm
[10:57] <cfraz89> kaffeine doesnt work either?
[10:58] <CountZ> checking
[10:58] <CountZ> beep works
[10:59] <CountZ> checking kaffeine
[10:59] <cfraz89> ok
[10:59] <CountZ> no.
[10:59] <CountZ> kaffeine doesn't work and it even complains about some WMV thing
[11:00] <CountZ> when I'm just trying to play an mp3 file
[11:00] <cfraz89> hmmm
[11:00] <dave> hi all, needed to reinstall Reseifs came up with errors and was un mountable (is my root partition!)
[11:00] <cfraz89> whats the exact error?
[11:00] <CountZ> in kaffeine?
[11:00] <cfraz89> yep
[11:01] <dave> reinstalled with 5.04 and then wanted to upgrade via cd to 5.10
[11:01] <dave> have been unable to do this so tried to install from 5.10 cd
[11:01] <CountZ> it does not repeat the error.. :-\
[11:02] <cfraz89> oh
[11:02] <dave> 5.10 cd dies at detecting module ide-cd for linux ATAPI CD-ROM
[11:02] <cfraz89> try running kaffeine from terminal
[11:03] <dave> cd stops spining nothing works, tried expert mode no joy!!
[11:03] <dave> anyone able to help ?
[11:03] <CountZ> cfraz89: I gotta get back to work so i'll just play music with beep for now but thank you very much for trying to help man! :-)
[11:04] <CountZ> during the evening I will have a bit more time to play with it
[11:04] <cfraz89> ok
[11:04] <cfraz89> its ok
[11:10] <dave> got an breezy install problem with an IBM aptiva AMD k6 cpu - install faulters at ide-cd loading module - help
[11:12] <dave> anyone able to help with a breezy install problem ?
[11:18] <dave> anyone able to help with a 5.10 install issue - had been installed before via online update process
[11:19] <dave> r0xz_ can you help with a breezy install from cd issue?
[11:24] <dave> any help for a breezy install issue ?
[11:26] <dave> can anyone reply to my messages ? seems like theres no one here or the lag time is way sllloowwww!
[11:40] <n3storm> hi everyone
[11:40] <n3storm> !java
[11:40] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:09] <visik7> !javadebs
[12:15] <stargater> re
[12:16] <josh> !repositories
[12:16] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:16] <josh> !easysource
[12:16] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:22] <stargater> anyone have screenshots from dapper = kde ?
[12:23] <apokryphos> stargater: osnews has some
[12:23] <apokryphos> as per-usual
[12:24] <stargater> ah ok thx
[12:24] <josh> osdir.com has some i think
[12:24] <apokryphos> gah, osdir, even
[12:24] <apokryphos> names mixed up :O
[12:25] <josh> can somone please tell me where the sources.list should be?
[12:26] <apokryphos> in /etc/apt
[12:26] <josh> thanx
[12:30] <josh> how do i replace my old sources.list with my new one
[12:30] <josh> i dont have permissions to replace it
[12:31] <josh> ?????
[12:32] <stargater> apokryphos:  or copy the list from ..o-matic and open a term => sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:32] <stargater> and past the entrys
[12:32] <josh> term???
[12:32] <stargater> term = terminal
[12:32] <josh> ohhhh
[12:32] <josh> umm... how?
[12:33] <stargater> terminal = the holy shell
[12:33] <josh> i no wat terminal is, but what do i type in, wat commands?
[12:33] <stargater> see in kicker i think
[12:33] <josh> ohhh
[12:33] <stargater> or Kicker kde menu = system/terminal
[12:34] <josh> got it
[12:34] <stargater> but you now what is vi (vim)
[12:34] <josh> no, i entered sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list into konsole
[12:34] <stargater> vim = the best editor
[12:37] <stargater> http://vim.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/quickref.html
[12:37] <stargater> or for newbies = http://simpletutorials.com/w3/index.php?pagename=Vim%20Reference
[12:39] <_steven> is josh there
[12:39] <stargater> http://www2.in.tu-clausthal.de/~zach/vim/index.html
[12:39] <stargater> _steven:  i think josh  is in vim
[12:40] <Ahmuck> josh: open adept
[12:41] <_steven> ''is josh there''
[12:42] <josh> yeah
[12:42] <josh> im here
[12:42] <Ahmuck> oepn adept
[12:42] <stargater> cu
[12:43] <josh> ummm, ok, but how do i save the sources.list? in vim
[12:43] <Ahmuck> nm
[12:43] <josh> ?
[12:43] <josh> how do i save?
[12:44] <josh> do i just write in :w to save?
[12:45] <josh> i think i did it
[12:45] <josh> yep
[12:45] <josh> and now for adept?
[12:45] <_steven> hey josh
[12:45] <josh> yeah
[12:45] <josh> im here
[12:46] <_steven> josh what did you want
[12:46] <josh> i have got kubuntu up and running
[12:46] <_steven> okl
[12:46] <_steven> i mean ok
[12:46] <josh> ahmuck: and now for adept
[12:47] <josh> !firefox
[12:48] <_steven> eh
[12:49] <_steven> josh gtg
[12:49] <josh> ok
[12:49] <Ahmuck> josh: what are you trying to achieve ?
[12:57] <DiThi> how can I loop mount an initrd file?
[01:09] <jind> DiThi, if it's possible it should work with: mount -o loop initrd.img /mnt/loop
[01:10] <DiThi> it doesn't
[01:10] <DiThi> actually is a gzipped cpio
[01:10] <DiThi> so i extracted it with cpio
[01:11] <DiThi> I know it used to be a gzipped filesystem such ext2
[01:15] <OdyX> Is there a log of that chan?
[02:03] <rus> adept really needs some workaround
[02:04] <rus> it sux
[02:04] <nalioth> rus: breezy adept ?
[02:04] <rus> dapper
[02:04] <nalioth> rus: the dapper adept is miles different
[02:04] <nalioth> oh. i'm glad you aren't stuck with breezy adept, then.  :(
[02:04] <rus> used both dont really see any
[02:04] <OdyX> !seen osh__
[02:04] <ubotu> OdyX: i haven't seen 'osh__'
[02:05] <OdyX> !seen osh___
[02:05] <nalioth> something sounds fishy, rus the differences are quite striking between breezy and dapper adept
[02:05] <CraiZE> hey
[02:05] <CraiZE> where can i setup my KDE Keyring for passwords?
[02:06] <rus> i used the breezy one just for a couple of days
[02:07] <rus> i had debian before and i'm used to be given a warning when the package manager figures something out by itself
[02:07] <rus> aptitude for instane
[02:07] <CraiZEH> hi
[02:07] <CraiZEH> anyone see my text?
[02:07] <nalioth> CraiZEH: should we see it?
[02:07] <rus> bloody adept deinstalled half of my bloody system
[02:08] <rus> i'm in rage
[02:10] <rus> i'm hardly containing myself from saying bad words!
[02:11] <CraiZEH> yes
[02:11] <CraiZEH> i was wondering where i can setup my password keyring
[02:11] <CraiZEH> i dont find it in kcontrol
[02:11] <CraiZEH> hrm
[02:12] <CraiZEH> its called "kwallet" wonder if there is a setup for it :S
[02:15] <rus> actually it's much more simple with this, just popup a preview with the changes
[02:15] <rus> and a warning when removing a dependancy
[02:16] <rus> because it does not give a warning!!
[02:16] <rus> it removes the dependant package!
[02:17] <rus> that's bad
[02:19] <rus> dont you agree?
[02:23] <Seantater> does anyone here know how keep works?
[02:23] <Seantater> what type of backup does it make?
[02:24] <sikor-sxe> hello, i upgraded to dapper recently. my machine crashes hard {not reachable by ssh} all the time since. where can i find out what the problem is? im really desperate here!
[02:24] <Seantater> sikor-sxe: okay -- does it come on slowly
[02:25] <nalioth> sikor-sxe: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion
[02:25] <Seantater> sikor-sxe: like does it begin slowing down and keep going until you hit a dead stop and you can't do anything.
[02:25] <sikor-sxe> Seantater: no, it suddenly happens after a few minutes of use
[02:26] <Seantater> sikor-sxe: technically this channel supports dapper, but ubuntu+1 will probably be more helpful and faster responses.
[02:27] <sikor-sxe> i first thought only X freezes, because the wlan card continues to flash, but the system is not reachable by ssh either
[02:28] <Seantater> sikor-sxe: do you have apache2 or something installed? a hacker might be getting through and doing something..
[02:28] <Seantater> sikor-sxe: are you in breezy now?
[02:28] <sikor-sxe> after crash i booted with a livecd mounted the hd and checked its logfiles messages, kern.log, x.log but there was no hint of the reason for the crash
[02:29] <sikor-sxe> Seantater: hacking is quite unlikely since i am behind a router
[02:29] <sikor-sxe> and there are no ports forwared
[02:29] <Seantater> sikor-sxe: I'm thinking it might be that one process balloned and took the whole computer's resources..
[02:29] <sikor-sxe> hmm
[02:29] <Seantater> A similer thing happened to me..
[02:29] <sikor-sxe> ussually you notice it when the machine becomes slower
[02:30] <sikor-sxe> but it just suddenly happens
[02:30] <Seantater> It was because artsd had a memory leak
[02:30] <sikor-sxe> i just wonder i which log file i should look
[02:30] <Seantater> but unlike you, it took about 10 seconds to take effect..
[02:31] <Seantater> sikor-sxe: If a process ballons, you won't see anything
[02:31] <Seantater> however, if much of anything else;
[02:31] <Seantater> read the .xsession-errors file in your home folder
[02:33] <sikor-sxe> hmm ok
[02:34] <mhterres> morning
[02:34] <Seantater> hello] 
[02:52] <USER017046> ciao
[03:00] <vranikx> hello all
[03:00] <Hawkeye> hello
[03:01] <vranikx> does anybody know please where in kubuntu i can find programs which runs in every new start of kubuntu in sessions?
[03:05] <n3storm> wenas
[03:05] <rus> hola
[03:05] <Blissex> vranikx: yes.
[03:05] <mhterres> vranikx: ou
[03:05] <mhterres> you can put in /home/user/.kde/Autostart
[03:06] <rus> vranikx: init.d?
[03:08] <vranikx> yes, i know it, but in every start of kubuntu are loading programs which are no in autostart folder
[03:09] <vranikx> so i want to know where are programs which loaded in every start except .autostart folder
[03:10] <Blissex> vranikx: depends on what you mean by sessions
[03:12] <vranikx> so this: every start of kubuntu are loading some programs (firestarter, gaim etc) which are stores in i dont know and mozilla-thunderbird which is located in autostart folder, so i can know where are firestart and gaim located in autostart
[03:12] <vranikx> sorry for my english
[03:12] <n3storm> vranikx: did you have those programs open when you close kubuntu?
[03:13] <Blissex> vranikx: that particular stuff is restored by the session manager.
[03:13] <vranikx> aha
[03:14] <vranikx> so how i can delete this sessions?
[03:14] <Blissex> vranikx: 'Control Center:KDE Components:Session Manager'
[03:14] <vranikx> because i want control autostart
[03:14] <eulchen> vrankx: you can change that in session manager if you like to make kubuntu start with empty session
[03:14] <vranikx> aha, oki, thanx very much
[03:15] <Blissex> I have disabled the session manager completely because often restoring a session is very dodgy.
[03:15] <Blissex> vranikx: note also that there are actually _many_ other levels of autostarting things.
[03:16] <vranikx> hmm so i can manage my autostart sessions? some programs not loading some yes
[03:26] <Blissex> vranikx: for 'Autostart' you just delete or add things to that directory. Usually they should be symbolic links.
[03:27] <vranikx> ok blissex, thanx i will do it :) thanx so much :)
[03:43] <monomaniacpat> Hi guys! Has anyone here managed to share files from windows to ubuntu? I get an error with konqueror - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13619
[03:50] <serrano__> hola, aguien me ayuda a configurar el sonido en mi kubuntu?
[03:54] <serrano__> hola
[03:54] <serrano__> necesito ayuda para configurar el sonido
[03:54] <serrano__> el sonido me funciona cuando arranco el sistema, el sonido de sistema y demas se escucha, pero cuando por ejemplo me meto a amarok a escuchar un mp3 no me lo reprofuce, como puedo solucionar esto?
[03:55] <Blissex> serrano__: #Ubuntu-ES
[03:56] <Blissex> !restricted
[03:56] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:56] <serrano__> gracias
[03:56] <Blissex> serrano__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:07] <__dennis> hey folks!
[04:07] <__dennis> is there a way to resize an ext3-partition without data loss?
[04:20] <DeadS0ul> qtparted might work
[04:20] <Blissex> __dennis: yes. Do you feel lucky?
[04:21] <DeadS0ul> dnt' you need to add a 'punk' to the end of that sentence?
[04:21] <Blissex> DeadS0ul: consider it implicit... :-)
[04:22] <DeadS0ul> i like the term 'you bastard'
[04:23] <DeadS0ul> espeically if I use an accent
[04:24] <Blissex> DeadS0ul: in other contexts, I like a translation from Italian, which comes out well: "braindamaged dickhead", often uttered when I read source code from some people...
[04:25] <DeadS0ul> remind me not to show you any of my css coding =|
[04:26] <Blissex> DeadS0ul: I can show you mine instead as a model of beauty and wonder: http://www.sabi.co.uk/style/clean.css
[04:27] <Blissex> __dennis: anyhow look for 'e2resize', and make sure you have backups or pray very devoutly :-)
[04:27] <DeadS0ul> honestly
[04:27] <DeadS0ul> go for it
[04:28] <trappist> Blissex: to be a real model of beauty and wonder you have to omit units for values of 0 and other redundancies (e.g., margin: 0; rather than margin: 0% 0% 0% 0%;)
[04:28] <DeadS0ul> dcc me, and send me a voice recording of some cursing in Italian
[04:28] <nrb-tokyo> I was hoping someone could help with a problem. I've installed breezy amd64 and I can't seem to get mplayer out of backports. I've uncommented the backports line (with multiverse) in /etc/apt/sources.list and done a respository update. When I try an "aptitude install mplayer", I get nothing and when I search in apt-cache or synaptic, there is only mozilla-mplayer. When I browse to: http://jp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m/
[04:28] <Blissex> trappist: thats a debatable opinion... Some redundancies are meant to convey a stylr
[04:28] <Blissex> trappist: thats a debatable opinion... Some redundancies are meant to convey some pragmatics
[04:28] <trappist> Blissex: and color: #017 rather than #001177
[04:28] <ninHer> hi all
[04:28] <DeadS0ul> trappist: those are short cuts, quanta doesnt' let me use thos
[04:28] <ninHer> hi all
[04:29] <Blissex> trappist: no, color must be fully specified.
[04:29] <trappist> Blissex: the idea is to save the user and your server those few extra bytes of bandwidth, and to be effecient - since 0% == 0px == 0em etc.
[04:29] <trappist> Blissex: no, not in css
[04:29] <Blissex> trappist: then I should remove comments and indentation too...
[04:29] <DeadS0ul> yeah in css you can use short cuts
[04:30] <Blissex> trappist: it is better to be explicit and clear... Less shortcuts.
[04:30] <trappist> Blissex: if you say <body bgcolor="whatever"> it has to be complete there
[04:30] <DeadS0ul> Blissex: efficiency doesn't mean you should sacrifice readability
[04:31] <Blissex> DeadS0ul: but <trappist> is talking about piffling ''inefficiencies''...
[04:31] <DeadS0ul> naw, he's talking bout a few shortcuts, the ones he mentioned aren't bad, you can still read the code
[04:33] <Blissex> DeadS0ul: but those shortcuts save perhaps 0.1% of bytes, and make things inconsistent... Stylistically I think that is not that good.
[04:34] <DeadS0ul> true but not all of them
[04:34] <trappist> I don't think 0 is any less readable than 0%
[04:34] <DeadS0ul> margin : 0 0 50 50 or however it is, it s much better than writing four lines.  it's like comparing i++ instead of i = i+1
[04:35] <Blissex> trappist: '0% 0% 3% 0%' is meant to convey the idea that the margins are meant to be relative to the size of the page, not absolute.
[04:36] <trappist> Blissex: the percent after the 3 is meaningful to humans and to machines - if it's just 0 though, a human and a machine will interpret the same way - "no margin"
[04:37] <DeadS0ul> but your argument holds true for using #017 instead of #001177
[04:37] <Blissex> trappist: it is not "no margin", it is "no relative sized margin"
[04:37] <trappist> Blissex: no, 0 is no margin - it's the same as 0%, 0px, 0em, etc.
[04:37] <Blissex> trappist: using the extra "%" conveys the design decision that those margins should be relative, even if they are presently null.
[04:37] <trappist> mkay
[04:38] <trappist> I s'pose I can dig the idea of conveying concepts to potential readers in your css, but I prefer to aim to conserve bandwidth wherever possible
[04:39] <DeadS0ul> as long as you don't over do it so other people, you don't want to make it  hard to read
[04:40] <trappist> google sure doesn't mess around with it: http://www.google.com/ac.js
[04:40] <llukax> hi does someone know how to install gtk?
[04:40] <Blissex> trappist: while I agree with conserving bandwith, there is always the possible of passing the CSS source through a ''minimizer'', like remove all indentation, comments, shorten stuff; probably a dozen lines of Perl.
[04:40] <llukax> with synaptic
[04:41] <trappist> llukax: you almost certainly have gtk installed - what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:41] <Blissex> trappist: as to Google, both their HTML and their JS are usually _awful_, ''because they can''.
[04:41] <llukax> trying to install something called "stompboxes"
[04:41] <Blissex> llukax: install how? compiling from sources?
[04:41] <trappist> Blissex: they're "awful" because they use as few bytes of bandwidth as possible.  they're excellent, just ugly, because they chose to make it so.
[04:41] <llukax> yes
[04:41] <llukax> tar
[04:42] <llukax> checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... no
[04:42] <llukax> *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
[04:42] <llukax> thats what i got during configure
[04:42] <Blissex> trappist: no, they are full of bugs... Try to enable the JS console in Mozilla etc. and see how much crap their stuff throws up.
[04:42] <Blissex> llukax: you need then the GTk '-devel' packages.
[04:42] <llukax> ah, ok
[04:42] <trappist> llukax: try installing libgtk2.0-dev - if that doesn't work, libgtk1.2-dev
[04:42] <llukax> well in synaptic i dont know which one
[04:43] <llukax> hmm
[04:43] <Blissex> llukax: usually the devel libraries are under a ''development'' subcategory in Synaptic
[04:43] <llukax> that one is already installed
[04:43] <trappist> Blissex: their code throws exceptions as part of cross-browser compatibility, like "try this - if it doesn't work, must be this other browser, in which case do this" which is a perfectly valid way to do cross-browser javascript
[04:44] <llukax> hmm ok lemme try 1.2
[04:44] <trappist> llukax: it seems to be looking for 1.2
[04:44] <Blissex> trappist: nah, they even have things like unterminated strings, missing fields....
[04:45] <llukax> that worked
[04:45] <Blissex> trappist: also, take that 'ac.js' and reindent it etc. It still looks like crap.
[04:46] <trappist> Blissex: yeah, it's obviously not meant to be beautiful.  it's quite efficient, though.
[04:47] <Blissex> trappist: it may be ''clever''. The sort of people that Google has tend to be very bright, obnoxious, bad programmers that love overclever, shoddy stuff..
[04:48] <trappist> Blissex: one thing google loves is efficiency.  with the kind of traffic they get and the kind of stuff they have to do with each hit, they can't afford inefficiency.
[04:55] <DeadS0ul> Blissex: ..sounds like C programmers
[04:56] <Blissex> DeadS0ul: sounds like Gen Y Ivy Leaguers that dabble in C programming. Never mind the overly clever/shoddy stuff they do when they discover C++ and templates...
[05:10] <monomaniacpat> Hi guys! Has anyone here managed to share files from windows to ubuntu? I get an error with konqueror - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13619
[05:12] <flapane> i have problems with flash and realplayer 32bit on my amd64 http://makeashorterlink.com/?H3ED1231D  who can help me?
[05:13] <Blissex> flapane: they are not available.
[05:14] <Blissex> monomaniacpat: thats just a Konqueror bug. Try to mount SMB shares before using them, using various tools.
[05:15] <monomaniacpat> Blissex: I have mounted the files using smbfs using the terminal, but I still can't open in knoqueror - ??
[05:16] <Blissex> monomaniacpat: thats extremely odd.
[05:16] <Blissex> monomaniacpat: unless perhaps some of the file names on those shares are composed of strange characters or are extremely long, which may trigger some bug in Konqueror perhaps.
[05:17] <Blissex> monomaniacpat: lets say that lots of people including myself can browse SMB shared from MS windows servers without problems...
[05:17] <monomaniacpat> No, i think just usual windows names like my documents.
[05:17] <monomaniacpat> yes...
[05:30] <insanekane> hi ... i get segfaults on almost everything when I boot into Kubuntu ... does anyone have any clue why that would happen ?
[05:34] <trappist> filesystem damage? incompatible glibc installed?
[05:34] <trappist> check dmesg for evidence of the former
[05:34] <NoUse> insanekane could be hardware problems too
[05:35] <monomaniacpat> Blissex: ???
[05:35] <insanekane> NoUse: well, breezy on the same machine works very nicely
[05:35] <NoUse> insanekane kubuntu is breezy, do you mean ubuntu?
[05:36] <insanekane> NoUse: no, i mean, i have dapper and breezy on the same machine/disk
[05:36] <insanekane> NoUse: i get the problem when using the dapper
[05:36] <Blissex> monomaniacpat: no idea why it is not working for you, it just should. When a share is mounted, it is not special.
[05:36] <insanekane> NoUse: no problem when I use breezy
[05:36] <NoUse> insanekane have you upgraded recently?
[05:37] <insanekane> I get segfault when using "df -h" in the Konsole
[05:37] <insanekane> NoUse: not that I know of ... but would that cause problems ?
[05:37] <NoUse> insanekane well maybe this is a bug in dapper that has been fixed in new versions of KDE etc
[05:37] <monomaniacpat> Blissex: maybe it's not mounted properly? I have 'My Documents' mounted /mnt/DAD
[05:37] <_pan> #hellas
[05:38] <insanekane> NoUse: it isn't KDE thats segfaulting ... much of KDE works ...
[05:38] <insanekane> NoUse: its stuff like "df" that doesnt
[05:38] <insanekane> and procmail
[05:38] <insanekane> and many others
[05:38] <NoUse> insanekane then the entire system probably needs a reinstall
[05:38] <danst> hi i just played with the menueditor, sadly i made the system menu invisible, now i cannot restart the menueditor to make it visible again. could somebody please help me?
[05:38] <Blissex> monomaniacpat: if you can look at it from the command line, like in 'ls -l /mnt/DAD', it should be OK. The problem you have is a bug in the of Konqueror, why it is triggered in your case and not others depends on context, what makes your context special I don't know,
[05:38] <NoUse> insanekane but dapper upgrades can fix other stuff
[05:39] <insanekane> are the swap partitions that are used all listed in /etc/fstab ?
[05:39] <NoUse> insanekane yes
[05:39] <insanekane> because, i get an error right at the beginning, when loading the kernel
[05:39] <squilla> insanekane: paste bin /var/log/messages if you see anything realting to the rpoblem
[05:39] <insanekane> free swap = 0k !?!
[05:40] <DrNickRiviera> i'm back with a similar, but slightly different problem to not being able to run x yesterday
[05:40] <insanekane> squilla: i got that info from dmesg
[05:40] <squilla> danst:type " kmenuedit" on the command line
[05:40] <squilla> DrNick: Hi
[05:40] <insanekane> OutOfMemory: kill mknod !
[05:40] <DrNickRiviera> i've installed dapper and when i do the startx command from the recovery konsole x and kde start up the way i want it
[05:41] <DrNickRiviera> hi squilla
[05:41] <DrNickRiviera> when i boot normally it goes blank after the part where it lists the different mounted hard drives etc.
[05:41] <NoUse> insanekane your swap partition probably isn't mounting properly
[05:41] <NoUse> insanekane is it listed in fstab?
[05:41] <insanekane> probably ..
[05:41] <DrNickRiviera> am in kde now, but running as root :-/
[05:41] <insanekane> NoUse: yes ...
[05:42] <insanekane> NoUse: 5 swap partitions
[05:42] <insanekane> all listed
[05:42] <NoUse> insanekane 5?
[05:42] <NoUse> insanekane why 5?
[05:42] <v3ctor> why would you want 5 swap partitions?
[05:42] <insanekane> nevermind that
[05:43] <insanekane> anyway, i have 5 partitions
[05:43] <danst> oh man it's gone.. .there's no systems menu anymore... and my menueditor looked more like smeg but the color scheme was different...
[05:43] <DrNickRiviera> is there any logfile i could check to see why my screen is going blank when i boot normally?
[05:44] <squilla> DrNick: /var/log/messages
[05:44] <NoUse> insanekane run sudo swapon -s and pastebin the output
[05:44] <squilla> DrNick: try type ctrl+D when that happens on boot time - btw - you're further than yesterday! ;-/
[05:44] <Seantater> 4 partitions
[05:44] <Seantater> her
[05:44] <Seantater> shre/sher
[05:45] <Seantater> I need to spell..
[05:45] <Seantater> nevermind -- I have one for data, thrtee for OS's
[05:45] <DrNickRiviera> yes, a lot further :)
[05:45] <DrNickRiviera> even though i dislike running the desktop as root
[05:45] <DrNickRiviera> is there some way i can avoid doing that?
[05:46] <DrNickRiviera> logging out and then logging in again as a user doesn't seem to work :(
[05:46] <insanekane> NoUse: http://rafb.net/paste/results/scSgod37.html
[05:46] <DrNickRiviera> will just try the ctrl d thing
[05:46] <DrNickRiviera> brb
[05:46] <v3ctor> DrNickRiviera: have you tried renaming you ~/.kde dir and loigging in?
[05:48] <NoUse> insanekane what about free -m
[05:48] <squilla> DrNick: exit X and type "telinit 3" - I think you can login as user then .. anyone?
[05:48] <insanekane> NoUse: http://rafb.net/paste/results/LzMBaE48.html
[05:49] <insanekane> NoUse: http://rafb.net/paste/results/3Kt0XN94.html
[05:49] <DrNickRiviera> will try that too
[05:50] <NoUse> insanekane just for kicks, comment out all by one swap partition and reboot
[05:50] <insanekane> NoUse: hmm
[05:50] <NoUse> insanekane all but one*
[05:50] <nzerox> just installed kubuntu, looking good so far
[05:51] <insanekane> NoUse: it looks more like RAM failure than anything else
[05:51] <insanekane> NoUse: but it cant be ... i ran memtest, and breezy works :/
[05:51] <NoUse> insanekane I'd file a bug and see what they say
[05:52] <nzerox> where can i find a newbie guide?? that will help me to get things setup ?
[05:52] <NoUse> insanekane I would also recommend running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade before you do
[05:52] <insanekane> hmm ok
[05:52] <imbrandon> nzerox: check ubuntuforums.org for easyubuntu
[05:52] <nzerox> imbrandon: thanks alot
[05:52] <imbrandon> np
[05:53] <squilla> http://help.ubuntu.com/
[05:53] <nzerox> the ubuntuforums page is down :(
[05:53] <imbrandon> what!?! hmmm
[05:54] <nzerox> it says we will be right back
[05:54] <imbrandon> haha never seen that before, try it again in a few minutes
[05:54] <imbrandon> its a good place to start off
[05:54] <nzerox> ok
[05:54] <imbrandon> that and check this link
[05:54] <imbrandon> !restricted
[05:54] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:55] <squilla> nzerox:http://help.ubuntu.com/ is up
[05:56] <insanekane> !FreeFormats
[05:56] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[05:58] <nzerox> ok, gonna try out a new kernel, hopefully i will be back :)
[06:03] <DrNickRIviera> squilla: telinit 3 worked fine and i'm not running as root anymore
[06:03] <DrNickRIviera> but ctrl + d didn't make a difference
[06:03] <DrNickRIviera> couldn't reboot with ctrl + alt + del though, so i think the keyboard might not be working
[06:06] <squilla> DrNick: perhaps you have another keyboard - just to check? although I feel that it's unlikely
[06:07] <DrNickRIviera> i tried another one when i had the feeling this one wasn't working yesterday and it was the same
[06:07] <DrNickRIviera> just going through /var/log/messages, to see whether there is something that might be of interest there
[06:12] <nzerox> hey, what do i need to install to get my intel high definition audio card working ?
[06:16] <squilla> DrNick:not the keyboard at fault then
[06:16] <squilla> nzerox: what chipset is it?
[06:17] <nzerox> squilla: intel 82801
[06:17] <nzerox> squilla: i know it uses the snd_hda driver, but i'm not sure how to install it in kubuntu
[06:19] <squilla> nzerox:sytem settings--> sound
[06:20] <mhterres> afternoon
[06:20] <squilla> nzerox:enable sound and check it's usng the alsa driver/not autodetect
[06:21] <nzerox> squilla: sweet, tnx alot, gonna play arround a little bit
[06:23] <nzerox> only werid thing now is that, machine wont restart :P
[06:23] <squilla> nzerox:wooHAA! - make sure it's plugged in and go have some tea before you try again - what mobo?
[06:24] <nzerox> squilla: its a sony vaio vgn-s3xp not sure what mobo, its alaptop
[06:24] <squilla> DrNick:anything I can do for you - not sure how you stand at the   mo'
[06:25] <squilla> nzerox:plugged in? maybe it's tired - get an IBM thinkpad and love life :-0  - just kidding
[06:25] <nzerox> squilla: yep plugged into the wall
[06:26] <nzerox> squilla: it goes to shutdown, says rebooting system, then just hangs, machine doesnt power down
[06:27] <nzerox> squilla: shutdown command works fine though, lol, must be somthing with acpi
[06:27] <squilla> nzerox:ctrl+alt+del or hard boot
[06:28] <DaSkreech> nzerox: How old is the machine?
[06:28] <nzerox> squilla: i did 'sudo reboot' when i press and hold the power button, it powers down
[06:28] <nzerox> DaSkreech: less then 1 year
[06:28] <nzerox> DaSkreech: maybe 1 year old
[06:29] <nzerox> DaSkreech: squilla : i'm using the newest kernel, Linux nzxlaptop 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Fri Apr 28 13:21:56 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:30] <squilla> nzerox:breezy? - type "cat /etc/issue"
[06:31] <nzerox> squilla: yep, using breezy
[06:31] <nzerox> squilla: Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[06:32] <squilla> nzerox:k - when you upgrading to dapper? :-)
[06:32] <dsl701> hey everyone!
[06:32] <squilla> yo!
[06:32] <nzerox> squilla: anytime, how do i do it ?
[06:33] <zahlerstreik> anyone know anything about wine+kubuntu?
[06:33] <squilla> nzerox:oooohhh - you have to add dapper to your repo's - but I don't knwo how
[06:33] <insanekane> zahlerstreik: what about wine ?
[06:33] <DrNickRIviera> squilla: am just running apt-get upgrade
[06:34] <zahlerstreik> insanekane: i need to figure out how to run counter-strike in 32 (24) bit color, with open gl or direct 3d
[06:34] <DrNickRIviera> something "fun" for once, at least compared to trying to get the system to run :)
[06:34] <insanekane> zahlerstreik: eh ok
[06:34] <zahlerstreik> i already have it running smooth with 16bit in software mode...
[06:34] <squilla> DrNick:that won't hurt - I'm downloading 70M now
[06:34] <zahlerstreik> i dont know how to get it to run in full-color with a graphics renderer, ive heard its easy :(
[06:35] <zahlerstreik> but im a noob
[06:35] <zahlerstreik> cs 1.6, btw, not source
[06:35] <zahlerstreik> are there any switches for wine to force an applicatoin to run in 24-bit?
[06:35] <DrNickRIviera> i'm definitely quite impressed by the os so far, from what i can tell i am going to like this a lot more then fedora :)
[06:35] <nzerox> ok, brb
[06:37] <squilla> DrNick:wish I'd known you were on AMD64 before all that yesterday ;-)
[06:37] <DrNickRIviera> sorry about that, wouldn't have thought it would make a big difference
[06:38] <malte_> hi, using 6.06 beta 2 and kernel 2.6.15-22-386 here. i just installed nvidia drivers, but kdm won't start and complains about the kernel module being older than the x server stuff
[06:38] <squilla> DrNick:I have a 64bit version of ubuntu but will install it in another partition - too comfortable right now - everything "just works " :-D
[06:38] <malte_> why is that? linux-restricted-modules-(my kernel) says it provides for the latest version
[06:38] <squilla> malte: you installed drivers from nvidia?
[06:39] <malte_> squilla: i installed the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-22-386 package
[06:39] <malte_> and nvidia-glx
[06:40] <squilla> malte: the drivers com with kubuntu - no need for nvidia proprietary drivers
[06:40] <malte_> squilla: ehm, nvidia's drivers are a tad better 3d performance-wise though, aren't they?
[06:41] <squilla> malte:on the cd -in pool/l/ and pool/n/
[06:41] <squilla> malte:my geforce6600 is very happy
[06:41] <malte_> i want to install the proprietary drivers anyway :) but thanks
[06:42] <squilla> malte:I'm not well informed but these are from nvidia(?) - just "ubuntu-ized"
[06:43] <malte_> squilla: mkay, what package do i need to install them then? the wiki said linux-restricted-blah, so i just went with that
[06:43] <squilla> malte:on the cd -in pool/l/ and pool/n/
[06:43] <malte_> i don't have the cd available i'm afraid
[06:44] <squilla> malte:how'd you install?
[06:44] <malte_> with a cd :) but it's not here anymore, i lent it to a friend
[06:44] <squilla> malte:you online?
[06:44] <squilla> malte:I mean dsl
[06:44] <malte_> yeah...
[06:45] <squilla> malte: *blush* - dsl in Linux!
[06:45] <malte_> o_O
[06:46] <squilla> malte:"sudo  apt-get install nvidia" from the command line - but perhaps you should do a "sudo apt-get upgrade" first
[06:46] <malte_> okay, i'll try that
[06:47] <squilla> malte: good luck
[06:47] <malte_> no such package :/
[06:52] <squilla> malte:"sudo apt-get upgrade"
[06:52] <malte_> yeah, did that
[06:53] <malte_> apt-cache search nvidia shows several other packages though, such as linux-restricted-... and nvidia-glx
[06:53] <malte_> i'm quite sure those are the ones i need
[06:53] <squilla> malte: yes it's true
[06:53] <squilla> use "aptitude"
[06:54] <squilla> I'm stupid today - later all :-/
[06:56] <malte_> :S
[06:56] <DaSkreech> lol
[07:13] <DaSkreech> ok Anyone ever used ktorrent?
[07:13] <uniq> I have.
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Does it ever eat your files?
[07:14] <uniq> haven't experienced that yet, no.
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Ok I'm grabbing two distros
[07:14] <DaSkreech> The one that finished first has vanaished from the file system
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Which is strange because I'm seeding it
[07:15] <DaSkreech> The other one has 4 minutes left to go but I'm afraid of letting it finish now
[07:24] <ruggy> pwd
[07:26] <malte_> DaSkreech: azureus 4tw
[07:29] <DuDReNoV> hey guys
[07:30] <DuDReNoV> I killed the kde menu bar by mistake and now I've no idea how to start it again
[07:30] <DuDReNoV> any help?
[07:31] <firephoto> DuDReNoV: try "dcop kicker kicker restart" in the alt+f2  run command
[07:31] <firephoto> unless you mean the menus in a window.. then hit ctrl+m
[07:31] <DuDReNoV> awesome
[07:31] <DuDReNoV> it was kicker
[07:31] <DuDReNoV> :)
[07:32] <DuDReNoV> forgot the name of it
[07:32] <Jowi> hello, just installed kubuntu-desktop. I am not using kdm/gdm. which is the exec file to put in .xsession?
[07:32] <mart> anyone aware of any major bugs in flight-7?  I need to reinstall.
[07:33] <firephoto> mart: not from an install point of view but the latest updates seem ok with no quirks
[07:34] <mart> firephoto: oh, right.  someone was telling me today that they were having plenty of problems with updates right now :|
[07:35] <firephoto> mart: powersave (i think) was stuck in a "want to update to same version" situation yesterday but it's still working. everything else seems ok. i'm updating right now.. new kernel and some xorg bits..
[07:36] <tsdgeos> Jowi: startkde not sure?
[07:36] <firephoto> powersave might be coming from an extra repo though still.
[07:36] <mart> firephoto: ok, small things I can deal with.
[07:36] <Jowi> tsdgeos: ah, thanks. was looking at the commands starting with "kde..." and didn't see that one.
[07:37] <mart> firephoto: but filesystem corruption needs a reinstall :|
[07:37] <DaSkreech> malte_: 4tw?
[07:38] <firephoto> mart: i guess if it's that bad you do. might as well try the new installer too if you don't have anything to lose on the disk.
[07:39] <mart> firephoto: oh? what's new?
[07:39] <firephoto> mart: from the notice. "The seventh testing CD for Kubuntu Dapper has been released. We are especially interested in reports from testing the new Live CD installer Ubiquity."
[07:40] <firephoto> i guess that means it's more reliable now. ;)
[07:40] <mart> firephoto: oh, that.  hmm, think I'll stick with what I know :)
[07:41] <lana> Hey, can anyone point me to a MSN messanger for Kubuntu that as a display picture function (cous these stupid things are important for my sis)
[07:41] <firephoto> lana: kopete does that
[07:41] <margouyab_> amsn
[07:41] <pradeepto> lana: Kopete
[07:42] <pradeepto> lana: it comes with Kubuntu as a default IM app
[07:42] <ubuntu> i did something quite stupid, i ran prelink and now there's a kernel panic everytime
[07:42] <ubuntu> i boot
[07:42] <pradeepto> mart :)
[07:42] <lana> I can't seem to find that function in Kopete. any idea where i can find that option?
[07:43] <lana> never mind... just found it
[07:43] <lana> thanks everyone
[07:43] <steveire> flight7 is out now?
[07:43] <mart> yup.
[07:43] <jpatrick> hey Tm_T!!
[07:43] <Tm_T> moin
[07:43] <firephoto> lana: click on the msn icon.. properties
[07:43] <cow_2001> oh, now i'm me.
[07:44] <firephoto> oops.. too slow and not watching.. heh
[07:46] <malte_> for the win!
[07:50] <DaSkreech> malte_: lol
[07:56] <Bachus9000> I'm trying to get Compiz running on Kubuntu 6.06 beta2 but I've run into a problem when trying to run 'xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us' as most of the guides suggest.  /usr/share/xmodmap isn't there and I can't find xmodmap.us anywhere in the filesystem.
[07:57] <insanekane> Bachus9000: on my system it is /usr/bin/xmodmap
[07:57] <insanekane> Bachus9000: err .. disregard that
[07:59] <Bachus9000> Hold on, according to the package search site the file is in gnome-applets-data.
[08:00] <Bachus9000> Yippee.
[08:17] <colo> hello there, dudes 8)
[08:18] <jpatrick> hi
[08:18] <colo> just a quick question regariding konqueror: is it possible to set it up that a middle-click on an open tab causes it to be closed?
[08:18] <apokryphos> colo: I believe there's a non-GUI config option to enable that, one second
[08:19] <steveire> I'd like mouse wheel on anything to open it in a tab, but can't find a setting to do it...
[08:21] <apokryphos> colo: edit your konquerorrc and under FMSettings add "MouseMiddleClickClosesTab=true"
[08:22] <colo> apokryphos: thank you :)
[08:23] <colo> works great :)
[08:23] <colo> surprising kde does not use XML for its configuration files
[08:24] <apokryphos> I think it does
[08:25] <colo> well, the konquerorrc i just edited with vim used some ini-like syntax
[08:25] <jpatrick> yeah
[08:25] <hastesaver> xml for config files? First time I've heard of it
[08:25] <colo> as long as i don't have to parse that in a program of it, i'm fine with it ;)
[08:25] <hastesaver> any examples? I'm curious to see what it looks like
[08:25] <colo> what? XML?
[08:26] <hastesaver> colo, yes, apps which use config files that are in XML
[08:26] <steveire> apokryphos: How did you know the name of the bool?
[08:26] <Lynoure> hastesaver: It's been around for ages...
[08:26] <colo> well, there's the elektra project, for example
[08:26] <colo> elektra strives to provide patches for popular programs to make use of XML for their configuration files
[08:26] <apokryphos> steveire: saw it listed somewhere
[08:27] <apokryphos> was a feature request some time ago on bugs.kde.org
[08:27] <hastesaver> Lynoure, I'm sure it exists, but I've never encountered it my personal experience...
[08:27] <steveire> Do you know of any way I can force single window mode, and have items that I middle click on open in a new tab ala ff?
[08:28] <apokryphos> steveire: erm, yeah, of course. I thought that was default in kubuntu...
[08:28] <Lynoure> hastesaver: Life is full of wonders. That's what makes it fun. :)
[08:29] <apokryphos> settings -> configure konqueror -> web behaviour
[08:29] <steveire> Don't think that works when I'm browsing locally and try to open a folder/file.
[08:30] <apokryphos> it should
[08:30] <apokryphos> click on "advanced options" there too
[08:30] <_uros> hi all. i have the current application menu bar at the top of screen (Mac OS style). this works with "native" KDE apps, but not with some others (firefox, OO, skype), does anyone know if there is a way of enabling this for these apps or not?
[08:31] <apokryphos> I don't think it's possible
[08:31] <Snake[Away] > Its not
[08:31] <steveire> I'll have another complete look around so
[08:31] <_uros> tnx. it would have been nice, but i'll survive
[08:31] <Snake__> _uros: Its not written in qt, so no, its not possible, unfortantly :(
[08:32] <apokryphos> I'm just as concerned about getting that menu bar transparent
[08:32] <apokryphos> mine just doesn't seem to want to no matter how I budge, and yet my brother's is perfectly translucent without any configurations
[08:33] <steveire> nope, wheel click still opens in a new window when I open a folder
[08:33] <Snake__> apokryphos: are you on dapper?
[08:33] <apokryphos> on one of my partitions, yes.
[08:33] <Snake__> apokryphos: Does your kubuntu's K-Menu update itself?
[08:34] <apokryphos> steveire: did you check the advanced options?
[08:34] <steveire> yep
[08:34] <apokryphos> Snake__: yes
[08:34] <Snake__> Mine doesnt for some weird reason... when I download or remove programs, I have to manually change the menu
[08:34] <apokryphos> steveire: "Open folders in seperate windows" isn't enabled, is it?
[08:34] <apokryphos> steveire: on the main configure konqueror page
[08:34] <steveire> disabled already
[08:34] <steveire> (default i think)
[08:35] <apokryphos> steveire: what do you have each of your "advanced option" settings to?
[08:35] <apokryphos> i.e. on, on, off, on.......
[08:35] <koro[] > Hi, I'm getting Uncompressing Linux... Ok, boting the kernel.       PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6   when I try to install kubuntu.  Any ideas?
[08:36] <steveire> 1010101
[08:36] <apokryphos> looks fine
[08:36] <apokryphos> hm
[08:36] <steveire> yep
[08:36] <Snake__> apokryphos: I am happy to see that konq is finally up to speed and working as a decent browser :)
[08:36] <steveire> It's fine for web browsing, but not for file folder exploartaion
[08:37] <apokryphos> really don't know then I'm afraid
[08:37] <apokryphos> it really does work fine here
[08:37] <steveire> arr...
[08:37] <DaSkreech> LeeJunFan: heya
[08:37] <colo> well
[08:37] <apokryphos> steveire: I can send you my konquerorrc and you can try out with that if you like...
[08:37] <colo> konqueror from dapper flight 7 does not incorporate the webkit-fixes to pass acid2, fwiw
[08:37] <ciga> hi
[08:38] <steveire> It behaves like that in your konq?
[08:38] <steveire> cool, yes please.
[08:38] <Snake__> colo: hardly any browsers pass acid 2, I dont take to it with a grain of salt.
[08:38] <apokryphos> steveire: http://giannaros.org/konquerorrc
[08:38] <apokryphos> Snake__: well, at least the big good ones aim for it
[08:38] <colo> Snake__: konqueror does
[08:38] <Snake__> apokryphos: Rofl. Have you seen IE "Pass it" ?
[08:38] <colo> from vanilla kde 3.5.2
[08:38] <ciga> anyone with dapper and having problem opening a file with fish://?
[08:38] <steveire> 403
[08:39] <apokryphos> Snake__: I said "good" ones
[08:39] <colo> ciga: works fine here
[08:39] <Snake__> apokryphos: heh
[08:39] <macd> ciga: there is a known dapper issue with that, does it give you a firewall message?
[08:39] <ciga> colo: I try to open a remote file with quanta and in konqueror, but it still got nothing.
[08:39] <ciga> macd: no, I can browse the files.
[08:40] <Snake__> apokryphos: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5175/lol28mv.jpg <3 that pic :)
[08:40] <apokryphos> steveire: sorry, try again now
[08:40] <apokryphos> IE has just said they entirely don't care about acid2
[08:40] <apokryphos> which is...... annoying
[08:41] <steveire> I got it thanks. That your site?
[08:41] <apokryphos> yup
[08:41] <Snake__> apokryphos: I wonder where the hell the input box came from lol
[08:41] <steveire> Snake__: Is that ie7 or something? looks ...unfamiliar
[08:42] <koro[] > any ideas?
[08:42] <Snake__> steveire: yes thats IE7
[08:42] <apokryphos> charming as ever
[08:42] <Snake__> Heres another good one
[08:42] <Snake__> http://www.hardcoreware.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16760&stc=1&d=1146019226
[08:42] <steveire> apokryphos: Is it just a placeholder? it doesn't look navigable.
[08:42] <Snake__> Google advertising for firefox while IE tells you to use them to search :)
[08:43] <apokryphos> steveire: more of a dump, and I host a few other sites on it
[08:43] <steveire> I see
[08:43] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:43] <apokryphos> the hosting itself was more-or-less free
[08:44] <steveire> slow-motion: hi
[08:44] <Snake__> slow-motion: welcome
[08:44] <slow-motion> hi steveire, Snake__
[08:44] <Snake__> someone say my nick plz
[08:45] <Snake__> or dont? :P
[08:45] <koro[] > Snake__:
[08:45] <Snake__> koro[] : thanks
[08:45] <koro[] > np
[08:45] <Snake__> Hmmm time to get yakuake
[08:45] <koro[] > any ideas on my issue?
[08:46] <Snake__> koro[] : is your ram good?
[08:47] <Snake__> koro[] : sorry bout that, did you reply
[08:47] <Snake__> ?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> ok Ktorrent has me very weirded out
[08:48] <DrNickRiviera> a lot of the time when i press the administrator mode  button in system settings only the red border comes up, but i don't get a box prompting me for the password
[08:49] <DrNickRiviera> is this a general problem, or amy doing something wrong
[08:49] <DrNickRiviera> am on dapper
[08:49] <koro[] > Snake__: memtest shows nothing so far
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Happens to me too
[08:50] <eosyn> I had the red box with no forms early on in the install, after a few updates it went away though, also instead of system settings, I use kcontrol
[08:50] <Snake__> koro[] : hmm
[08:50] <Snake__> Kdesu is very buggy if you ask me
[08:51] <Snake__> Thats what I think the problem is DaSkreech and DrNickRiviera
[08:51] <eosyn> koro[]  lets his hamster run around in the box.. so beware
[08:51] <stevekl> kdesu is pretty buggy
[08:51] <koro[] > :P
[08:51] <Snake__> Yea, kinda sucks :(
[08:51] <DrNickRiviera> i do think it is quite good to use
[08:51] <DrNickRiviera> probably easier then kcontrol
[08:52] <Snake__> meh kcontrol ftw
[08:53] <eosyn> I'd bet koro[] 's problem has to do with the boot system setting up fbdev and trying to write to his video card's memory locations
[08:54] <colo> hmmm
[08:54] <colo> i wish there was a way to make kopete's chat-window-tabs as flexible as konqueror's window-tabs
[08:57] <ep> Weird, I was playing bzflag and my computer just reboots out of the blue.  It could of been a electrical brown out but I thought the computer normally just shuts down (not reboots) when this happens
[08:57] <ep> why would it reboot?
[08:58] <koro[] > eo, the weird thing is that it starts to continue the installer, then bails out after a couple of steps
[09:02] <squilla> ep: what power source do you have - I get this sometimes with nfsmw - overwhelms the power source - you need 400W
[09:05] <paula> oi
[09:05] <ep> I'll have to check... i can't recall if the power supply is 350 or 400 watts.  One thing I just did today was return my UPS and replaced it with a simple surge protector I bought at Wall mart
[09:06] <ep> This is my home computer and the noise generated by the APC UPS drove me nuts... Decided it's not worth it.
[09:07] <colo> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ strings
[09:07] <colo> bash: strings: command not found
[09:07] <colo> what the HELL?!
[09:07] <colo> this is not meant serious, now is it? :>
[09:08] <colo> ep: my APC UPS is absolutely silent
[09:08] <colo> when not powering my boxes at least ;)
[09:08] <crimsun> colo: binutils is priority optional.
[09:09] <colo> i see
[09:09] <colo> well, it's obviously FAR less important than windoze binaries for mozilla stuff and the like on the cd...
[09:10] <ep> Yeah, I called APC (model 650 IIRC) to see if the noise was normal.  They couldn't really tell me. I thought about exchanging it... but jumping through the hoops for the rebate... just give me my money back:)
[09:10] <carsten> Hey, anyone know if there is java 1.5 for dapper? I cannot find it. There is for breezy
[09:11] <crimsun> carsten: roll your own deb using sun/ibm and java-package from multiverse
[09:11] <ep> colo:  btw, what is "nfsmw"?
[09:11] <_uros> and one more q: i am slowly switching from gnome to KDE; almost convinced, but not ready to move from Evolution to Kmail indefinetly. Is there a way to symbolic link my evolution mail dir for Kmail to use (mbox) - in that case both programs would be seeing and saving mails in the same folder, so I could switch from one to the other when I choose?
[09:12] <eosyn> there is some great instructions of the kubuntu forums on how to get sun's java installed by rolling your own deb
[09:12] <macd> you could just use IMAP over POP pending your email provider supports it
[09:12] <colo> ep: i'm no gamer, but this could be "Need For Speed: Most Wanted", by any chance?
[09:12] <carsten> crimsun: ok, not today. but thanks for the hint
[09:13] <ep> no, never heard of it.  I mostly just play bzflag on linux
[09:13] <ep> it's free :)
[09:16] <colo> is there a way to get rid of konqueror notifying me that i just bravely blocked a popup-window?
[09:17] <_uros> my mail provider doesn't provide IMAP unfortunately - what could be a second best option - is a symbolic link smart?
[09:17] <hastesaver> colo, lol.
[09:18] <hastesaver> colo, One way is to use another browser
[09:18] <colo> hastesaver: not an option
[09:20] <squilla> is it possible to install a package - like the cedega deb file for example - and have apt auto install any unmet dependancies?
[09:20] <insanekane> squilla: yes ... use gdebi for that
[09:21] <squilla> colo: correct
[09:21] <chx> in Krita, how can I specify a color as transparent (for gif)?
[09:23] <squilla> insanekane: thank you! (it's installed - have not played with it yet .... gdebi that is)  :-D
[09:23] <macd> chx: add a alpha layer.
[09:25] <chx> macd: that sounds very complicated :(
[09:25] <gemidjy> how can I tell Kubuntu to load vesa as Driver in Xorg.conf (Kubuntu Flight 7 - Live) and not "ati"
[09:25] <jpatrick> replace it
[09:26] <macd> replce ati with vesa, and the associated device name instances
[09:26] <gemidjy> how can I replace it?
[09:26] <colo> use a text editor
[09:26] <gemidjy> I speak of Live Kubuntu
[09:27] <macd> gemidjy: then in that case its very simple, you dont :P
[09:27] <gemidjy> ahh god damn it, I have to
[09:27] <macd> there may be some option you can pass at boot time, Im not sure honestly
[09:27] <gemidjy> in Kanotix u append "xmodule=vesa" to Grub and voala
[09:27] <gemidjy> I tried with it, I can't
[09:28] <nzerox> hey does any one know the link for easyubunto @ ubuntuforums.org?
[09:29] <n3storm> nzerox: you mean easyubuntu?
[09:29] <nzerox> n3storm: yes sorry, i keep spelling it wrong
[09:30] <n3storm> maybe you spell it wrong at google=
[09:30] <n3storm> maybe you spell it wrong at google?
[09:32] <DaSkreech> Is there a beale for kubuntu
[09:32] <DaSkreech> cause I can't find this file
[09:32] <DaSkreech> beagle
[09:35] <colo> hmm
[09:35] <colo> i take it kvim is not actively developed any more?
[09:41] <sheldonc> i dont think it is
[09:43] <colo> does anyone in here happen to know if the KDE vim editing component is designed in a way to be able to handle vim version 7 without any adaptions?
[09:43] <MasterWolf> Is there a way to uninstall kubuntu without reformating my HD
[09:45] <osh___> Shouldn`t topic be changed. Isn't there a later version than Beta2 out?
[09:46] <MasterWolf> Is there a way to uninstall kubuntu without reformating my hard dive
[09:46] <munzir> Hi, kmail always asking me for the passwords though I saved it. when I close it there is always a message of KWallet is not available. It is strongly recommended to use KWallet for managing your passwords., what's wrong please?
[09:47] <osh___> MasterWolf: Huh? Uninstall? What do you mean?
[09:48] <munzir> MasterWolf: there is no way to uninstall kubuntu since the developers think there is no reason for this ;)
[09:49] <munzir> MasterWolf: seriously, you can just format its partition if you want
[09:49] <osh___> And what would you revert TO if you have kubuntu installed? Whatever was there before is probably gone now, overwritten by kubuntu.
[09:50] <MasterWolf> Is there a way to uninstall kubuntu without reformating my hard dive
[09:50] <MasterWolf> sorry
[09:51] <MasterWolf> windows that i already have a partition for
[09:52] <osh___> MasterWolf: So you have a windows partition and you don't want kubuntu on your drive anymore, just windows? Correct?
[09:52] <MasterWolf> osh___: right
[09:53] <osh___> MasterWolf: Then you could probably just fire up any disk partition tool, remove the partition that has kubuntu on it  and extend the windows partition to take over that space.
[09:54] <osh___> MasterWolf: However most of us in here like kubuntu so you might be better off asking someone in #windows or something.
[09:54] <MasterWolf> osh___: how do you do that
[09:55] <johnny3d> I was without sound because I didn't have the jumpers for my F_AUDIO connectors on my motherboard.  Now that I have them what must I do program-wise to get my sound up and running?
[09:57] <nico8481> lo
[09:57] <DaSkreech> Come again?
[09:58] <johnny3d> before when I booted the PCMCIA module didn't load.  It does now and I take that as a good sign.
[10:05] <Isaiah>  why would I get this error: "Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A): SET failed on device eth0 ; Operation not supported"
[10:05] <Isaiah>  I have a mn-720 that I setup(or tried) using ndiswrapper
[10:05] <cycom> does KDE have widgets like OS-X available?
[10:06] <Isaiah>  everythings seems to be fine, but that card doesn't work and I can't use any iwconfig commands on... they all give me a "operation not supported" message
[10:06] <DaSkreech> superkaramba
[10:06] <DaSkreech> I think it's more proper to say where is the widgets that OSX borrowed from us
[10:06] <cycom> DaSkreech: cool!
[10:07] <cycom> DaSkreech: but I think they pretty much count as stolen at this point?
[10:07] <DaSkreech> Naw It's hard to steal from Open source unless you don't give back to the community :)
[10:07] <DaSkreech> Unless of course you mean BSD open source in which case they don't care
[10:08] <cycom> DaSkreech: I was thinking along the lines of 'My neighbor borrowed my rake for three years, so it counts as stolen now.' stolen
[10:09] <colo> free software is there for anyone to benefit from, as long as they're playing by the rules their inventors set up in the first place
[10:09] <colo> so it's not stolen
[10:09] <colo> but just used as intended
[10:09] <cycom> (Hint: I was kidding about them actually stealing it.)
[10:09] <mmport81> hi all, just installed new kubuntu breezy, and amarok crashes right after i start it, complaining that it can't run any (xine, gst, arts) engine i try
[10:10] <johnny3d> synaptic does not have the kernel-headers for my kernel
[10:13] <johnny3d> any sound gurus available?
[10:13] <johnny3d> ...for sound
[10:18] <Unit_> is there install to hd option for it ?
[10:18] <Unit_> the live cd
[10:18] <Unit_> I made a nice 3 gig partition for it
[10:18] <mmport81> afaik, it's not possible
[10:19] <Unit_> ...
[10:19] <Sputnik_NL> Good evening all!
[10:19] <colo> it's possible with dapper
[10:19] <colo> afaik
[10:19] <Unit_> ?
[10:19] <Unit_> just dapper @ shell
[10:20] <Unit_> ?
[10:20] <Sputnik_NL> Good news we got today from Mark about Kubuntu...
[10:20] <OdyX> Sure !!
[10:20] <Lynoure> hmmm
[10:21] <Sputnik_NL> Really hope big progression is made (already dapper is superb compared with earlier versions)
[10:21] <Lynoure> My kpilot only seems to want to start in pairs... and then not respond
[10:21] <Sputnik_NL> there really seems a lack of quality dedicated KDE distro's now-a-days
[10:22] <mwiggins> i just installed kubuntu dapper, and amarok is not playing anything with the xine plugin anyone experienced this?
[10:22] <mwiggins> its all installed fine (and i saw the wiki and installed all that shit)
[10:22] <Sputnik_NL> did you install the xine-extra's?
[10:23] <Sputnik_NL> pretty weird, you followed the right instructions?
[10:23] <mwiggins> yeah
[10:23] <Sputnik_NL> right now I just play an aac stream without problems
[10:23] <Lynoure> Interesting
[10:23] <Lynoure> Launching kpilot from the command line goes fine...
[10:24] <Lynoure> but not from menu or Run Command
[10:24] <Lynoure> oops
[10:24] <Sputnik_NL> that's pretty interesting Lynoure
[10:24] <Lynoure> 'fine' as in does not start two, still does not respond :(
[10:24] <Sputnik_NL> are you sure you might not have wrong parameters for klilot in the menu?
[10:24] <mwiggins> there is no libxine-extracodecs in my sources
[10:24] <Sputnik_NL> ow ok
[10:25] <Sputnik_NL> one moment mwiggins
[10:25] <Lynoure> Sputnik_NL: It worked fine two weeks ago... but, I'll take a look
[10:26] <Sputnik_NL> libxine-extracodecs is in multiverse mwiggins
[10:27] <mwiggins> ah i only have backports for multiverse
[10:27] <Sputnik_NL> that will do the trick, though I won't recommend using the backports
[10:28] <Sputnik_NL> just stick with the official, universe and multiverse
[10:28] <mwiggins> what are backports?
[10:28] <Sputnik_NL> ummm how I explain that
[10:28] <mwiggins> im familiar with debian, first time using ubuntu though
[10:28] <Sputnik_NL> aha I see
[10:28] <mwiggins> word now its working
[10:29] <Unit_> is there anyway to do it ?
[10:29] <mwiggins> thanks
[10:29] <robotgeek> mwiggins: backports are a community maintained repository, which contains programs from the next version
[10:29] <Unit_> is there an online installer ?
[10:29] <Unit_> I can launch from the live cd ?
[10:29] <Sputnik_NL> robotgeek: and often just plain debian packages right?
[10:29] <colo> Unit_: only for dapper
[10:29] <colo> not for breezy
[10:29] <robotgeek> Sputnik_NL: all debian format ubuntu packages
[10:30] <robotgeek> colo: it's usually (current version + 1)
[10:30] <mwiggins> thanks again
[10:30] <Sputnik_NL> ok  thanks robotgeek, didn't knew that part
[10:30] <robotgeek> Sputnik_NL: i dont recommend it too much, unless you really need it
[10:31] <Sputnik_NL> how about the signal 11 error, is it going to get fixed anytime soon?
[10:31] <Sputnik_NL> robotgeek: I know, I never used them and recommend mwiiggins the same
[10:32] <h3sp4wn> Unit: you could install debootstrap
[10:33] <Sputnik_NL> please, nobody has information about the signal 11 error?
[10:33] <h3sp4wn> Unit: Or (if the breezy live cd uses squashfs - I know the dapper one does) unsquash the squashfs onto the other drive
[10:33] <munzir> Sputnik_NL: what is it?
[10:33] <Sputnik_NL> well on certain websites konqueror crashes with a signal 11 error
[10:34] <Sputnik_NL> try www.enormmusic.com for example
[10:34] <colo> works fine here
[10:35] <Lynoure> No, nothing weird about the menu entry, just kpilot
[10:35] <Sputnik_NL> ok Lynoure, maybe a launchpad report?
[10:35] <Lynoure> Damn, I'm too tired to strace and there is nothing interesting in .xsession-errors
[10:35] <Unit_> yeah but what about grub
[10:35] <Unit_> and booting the darn thing ?
[10:36] <Lynoure> Sputnik_NL: Yep, prolly tomorrow, if I haven't found a solution
[10:36] <Sputnik_NL> ok thanks Lynoure
[10:38] <NeedHelp> Hello i just install my kubuntu
[10:39] <NeedHelp> but i dont know my root pass
[10:39] <NeedHelp> cause when i installed it
[10:39] <NeedHelp> it just wants to create ordinary user name and password
[10:39] <NeedHelp> How i can get my kubuntu root pass now ?
[10:40] <robotgeek> !root
[10:40] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:40] <robotgeek> NeedHelp: ^^
[10:42] <pussfeller> when I run kdialog in a cron, it sex it can't connect to the xserver
[10:42] <pussfeller> but its running as me
[10:42] <pussfeller> or it should
[10:42] <NeedHelp> robotgeek: thanks a lot
[10:42] <Sputnik_NL> Just a suggestion, why can't Firefox ship with the "mostly crystal" theme when installed from Kubuntu, for new users this would be nice.
[10:43] <pussfeller> most of those cool firefox themes also make it og more memory
[10:43] <pussfeller> hog, not ogg
[10:44] <Sputnik_NL> I see
[10:44] <Sputnik_NL> but still, by default Firefox looks terrible under KDE
[10:45] <Sputnik_NL> (compared with the super slick Konquerer interface)
[10:46] <DaSkreech> Hey anyone use Kopete for IRC?
[10:46] <DaSkreech> When you do a /list and search for a string what is it looking for?
[10:46] <munzir> DaSkreech: what's your question?
[10:46] <DaSkreech> munzir: asked
[10:47] <pussfeller> list is for channels
[10:47] <DaSkreech> Yes I know
[10:47] <DaSkreech> There is a search bar
[10:47] <colo> Sputnik_NL: firefox is terrible after all
[10:47] <DaSkreech> What I type in seems to have no relation to what it returns
[10:47] <colo> no matter what skin you're using
[10:48] <Sputnik_NL> I agree colo, however I need to use it for certain websites
[10:49] <NeedHelp> can i use apt-get install
[10:49] <colo> yeah, it's really terribly sucky that more and more sites are optimized for gecko
[10:49] <NeedHelp> to install packages ?
[10:49] <colo> and not to be standards-compliant
[10:49] <DaSkreech> You can optimize a siote for gecko?
[10:49] <Sputnik_NL> indeed, they should just use the w3 standards
[10:49] <Sputnik_NL> sure just tweaks, just like for IE
[10:50] <DaSkreech> like moz-opacity?
[10:50] <colo> DaSkreech: you can optimize for whatever [x] html-rendering engine you want, if you're willing to break standards
[10:50] <pussfeller> i never heard of a site optimizing for firefox, not for standards
[10:50] <DaSkreech> I can't think off the top of my head of other breaking things
[10:51] <Sputnik_NL> well, yahoo mail beta for example seems tweaked for IE and Firefox (Gecko)
[10:51] <Lynoure> At the moment I have no idea how to report the kpilot thing
[10:51] <Sputnik_NL> it will refuse on any other browser, while they should have the capabilities to view it
[10:52] <Sputnik_NL> Maybe somebody here can help you here Lynoure with the report, I don't have too much experience writing reports on Launchpad neither.
[10:52] <Sputnik_NL> sorry
[10:53] <siefkencp> hello
[10:53] <Lynoure> Sputnik_NL: It's not the Launchpad that is the problem
[10:53] <NeedHelp> can i use apt-get install
[10:53] <NeedHelp> to install packages ?
[10:53] <Sputnik_NL> just the description of the problem?
[10:54] <Sputnik_NL> NeedHelp: just do "sudo apt-get install (packagename)"
[10:54] <Lynoure> kpilot starts fine once, starts doing a sync, gets stuck at 0%, after refresh of link stops responding and after that starts in pairs except from command line and always stops responding soon.
[10:54] <NeedHelp> Sputnik_NL:  GREAT !
[10:54] <NeedHelp> This Distro R0XZzz
[10:54] <Lynoure> Ironically kpilot was the thing that brought me to kde
[10:54] <Sputnik_NL> yes it does NeedHelp
[10:55] <NeedHelp> I am Debian Fan
[10:55] <Sputnik_NL> that really sucks for you Lynoure, I'm sorry
[10:55] <NeedHelp> But this distro is Great based on Debian
[10:55] <NeedHelp> but user friendly
[10:55] <Sputnik_NL> that's right
[10:55] <NeedHelp> no need to use hours of configuring my xserver
[10:55] <NeedHelp> it just works
[10:55] <NeedHelp> i`m happy
[10:55] <Sputnik_NL> enjoy using it NeedHelp, and please report any bugs you encounter
[10:56] <NeedHelp> thanx for supporting me
[10:56] <NeedHelp> Sputnik_NL:  i will report
[10:56] <Sputnik_NL> comminuty is all that can make it better
[10:56] <Sputnik_NL> yes please
[10:56] <Lynoure> Sputnik_NL: well, maybe it will start working again. I tried without my settings for it (assuming they too are at .kde/shade/apps/kpilot ) but that made no difference
[10:56] <Sputnik_NL> :)
[10:56] <siefkencp> using dapper here... just installed Kubuntu and lovin it
[10:56] <siefkencp> i use it as a dev server for pretty much everything i do
[10:57] <iNiku> hey
[10:57] <Sputnik_NL> I see, well I think it's jut a problem in Kubuntu Lynoure, I don't use kpilot (don't even have it installed) so I can't confirm that
[10:57] <siefkencp> ive been considering rolling ubuntu out on production in bigger projects
[10:57] <iNiku> anyone getting this at boot time (kdm start, I guess):
[10:57] <iNiku> May  8 23:55:21 localhost kdm_greet[4698] : Can't open default user face
[10:57] <iNiku> May  8 23:55:28 localhost kdm_greet[4698] : Internal error: memory corruption detected
[10:57] <Sputnik_NL> same here iNiku
[10:57] <ph3r> Hello, I'm having a problem with my nvidia driver, whenever x starts it's extremely distorted and un-useable. Is there a solution?
[10:58] <Sputnik_NL> been updating the the latest x.org build ph3r? _41 is the latest
[10:58] <iNiku> Sputnik_NL: doesn't seem to break anything as far as I can tell
[10:58] <ph3r> Sputnic_NL: Thanks, I'll check.
[10:59] <Sputnik_NL> I can confirm that iNiku, just checked the logs, I don't encounter any problems neither
[10:59] <Sputnik_NL> apart from the log entery
[10:59] <Lynoure> Sputnik_NL: Do you think my description above would be enough for a bug report? or should I wait till I'm awake again and strace the little rascal (why oh why it logs nothing, nowhere)?
[10:59] <iNiku> Sputnik_NL: I just wonder what it's trying to do...
[10:59] <iNiku> "default face" doesn't mean anything to me
[10:59] <Sputnik_NL> Lynoure: I think the decription you gave is clear, and if there are questions they will get asked
[10:59] <iNiku> "default user face", rather
[11:00] <Sputnik_NL> just post it and see what reactions you get
[11:00] <Sputnik_NL> to me it makes no sense neither iNiku
[11:00] <Sputnik_NL> maybe it's a bug in Kubuntu's KDM theme?
[11:02] <iNiku> Sputnik_NL: yeah, could be... can't really be bothered to debug it
[11:02] <iNiku> everything seems to be working as far as I can tell.
[11:02] <Sputnik_NL> yes that's true
[11:03] <NeedHelp> E: Package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate
[11:03] <NeedHelp> WOW!
[11:03] <NeedHelp> is it possible ?
[11:03] <Sputnik_NL> are you sure NeedHelp
[11:03] <NeedHelp> yes i am ...
[11:04] <NeedHelp> can i use debian source web sites or ftp mirrors
[11:04] <NeedHelp> or just ubuntu
[11:04] <Sputnik_NL> did you try "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[11:04] <Sputnik_NL> I think the package is not called mozilla-firefox anymore
[11:05] <Sputnik_NL> it's recommend to use Ubuntu's repo's NeedHelp
[11:05] <NeedHelp> Sputnik_NL: hmzzzz
[11:05] <NeedHelp> i will use unbuntu repo`s
[11:05] <Sputnik_NL> try it please, it works here
[11:05] <NeedHelp> but this is strange ...
[11:05] <NeedHelp> not to gind mozilla-firefox
[11:05] <NeedHelp> not to find mozilla-firefox
[11:06] <Sputnik_NL> well I just checked it
[11:06] <Sputnik_NL> mozilla-firefox is the old name before 1.5
[11:07] <NeedHelp> dragon@dragonaz:~$ sudo apt-cache search mozilla-firefox
[11:07] <NeedHelp> mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb - Mozilla Firefox English language/region package
[11:07] <Sputnik_NL> right now it's called just firefox
[11:07] <NeedHelp> Sputnik_NL:  uhuuu i see
[11:07] <Sputnik_NL> Need to go off guys
[11:08] <Sputnik_NL> good luck solving any problems
[11:08] <Sputnik_NL> NeedHelp: abart from apt-get you might just use Adept
[11:08] <Sputnik_NL> it's easier
[11:08] <NeedHelp> Sputnik_NL: please give me the right links of kubuntu repo`s
[11:09] <Sputnik_NL> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic make your sources list there
[11:09] <Sputnik_NL> :)
[11:12] <Lynoure> there was something in dmesg
[11:12] <Lynoure> looks kernelly
[11:12] <Lynoure> Is it ok to paste 50 lines of loggage into a launchpad bug report?
[11:13] <_josh> can someone please tell me how to get wine for kubuntu
[11:13] <nzerox> hey guys, is there a windows to kubuntu guide? that will help me to get essetial software installed, i know about easyubuntu
[11:15] <_josh> anyone, i have kubuntu 5.10
[11:16] <vonHalenbach> same
[11:17] <colo> _josh: install it via apt
[11:17] <colo> it's in the multiverse repos
[11:17] <colo> i suppose there are quite a few topics about that topic on the forums
[11:18] <_josh> wats it called
[11:19] <_josh> i searched it adept for wine and i diddnt find anything
[11:19] <NoUse> !wine
[11:19] <NoUse> !info wine
[11:19] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB
[11:19] <NoUse> _josh you need to enable universe
[11:20] <NoUse> !repos
[11:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:20] <_josh> ok
[11:23] <ph3r> x just wont start. I've updated my machines gfx drivers (according to apt-get). When x attempts to start it goes goes back to the default kubuntu splash screen but with no output. And solutions?
[11:24] <NoUse> ph3r check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues
[11:24] <ph3r> Thanks.
[11:25] <nzerox> anyone know of a good newbie guide for kubuntu ?
[11:27] <ph3r1> How can I tell my computer that I have a PCIe card?
[11:27] <_josh> it should automaticly detect it
[11:28] <ph3r1> _josh: It doesn't. I guess it's an input error. x keeps shutting down cause it tries to use PCI
[11:29] <_josh> hmmmmmm
[11:29] <ph3r1> _josh: would you happen to know the correct input? would it just be PCIe?
[11:29] <_josh> dont really know
[11:30] <_josh> try the kubuntu fourms
[11:30] <ph3r1> _josh: Me either. But thanks for the help. I'm stuck without x, so no internet browsing for me. Stuck using irssi for irc, lol.
[11:30] <ph3r1> lets give it another try though.
[11:30] <_josh> lol
[11:33] <_josh> how do i set up a home network in kubuntu 5.10?
[11:34] <_josh> im no a dual boot system with xp pro on another harddrive, and thats all set up for the network
[11:36] <mcf501> This isnt really a direct kubuntu question, but i am trying to compile some opengl and it is not linking correctly to glut (/usr/local/include/GL) is where the hedder files are. Any help would be great thanks.
[11:46] <slow-motion> n8
[11:48] <Infecto> hi
[11:48] <Infecto> where in kubuntu locale are set  ?
[11:50] <Kadran> hi all
[11:52] <Kadran> each time i open kubuntu it crashes and do rebooting, that happened after i have done an upgrade using adept_notifier and when i opened the xorg.log.old i found error about /dev/wacom ? any help please :)
[11:53] <Unit_> how do you check your own ip
[11:53] <Unit_> IP LOCALHOST  wont work
[11:53] <Kadran> Unit_: ifconfig
[11:59] <SuperK> hi All, I just upgraded to Breezy, and use KDE but Kcontrol is not in my menus and I can only get it by using terminal,anyone know how I can fix this?
[11:59] <SuperK> I woild like to have it in my menus and in my panel
[12:00] <HymnToLife> SuperK> just create a shortcut for it in your menu then
[12:00] <Blissex> SuperK: try to upgrade KDE, it may help. The installation obviously was not totally succeessful.
[12:00] <SuperK> I have upgraded all packages and reinstalled kde-desktop
[12:01] <SuperK> is there something else I have missed?
[12:01] <SuperK> every other app seems to be in place
[12:01] <SuperK> How would I create that shortcut?
[12:01] <Blissex> just CTRL-c 'cmp' then.
[12:02] <SuperK> I tried to move it to desktop but it doesn't do it
[12:02] <Blissex> oops sorry
[12:02] <SuperK> I'm sorry, I fairly new still, what exactly is that please?
[12:02] <Kadran> i don't know what happened after 3 successive restarts it worked normal , strange ;)